Is it really about winning on club teams? I'm wondering what the end game is if it is not about getting into a quality college program. I think there is plenty of quality lax in HS if it's just about playing and having fun. I don't see the role of a club if it is not for getting a D1 opportunity. Some clubs are about your kid improving to be able to make HS varsity....like cavs, freedom, 3D. Some are about getting into a D1 program like MADLAX, VLC, and Blackwolf. All 3 do that well....VLC and Blackwolf traditionally exceptionally well, but madlax getting 2 2019's this early is clearly a game changer. I think madlax does REALLY well at the youth levels and develops talent but has historically not done well with D1 commits for whatever reason....Maddux maybe? I think if folks on here are picking a club based on the team's record, you might be missing the bigger picture. Your loyalty should be to your son and not necessarily your club. Things change quickly here.