This forum should be shut down here and sent over the the dc area urban moms blog. There are 3-4 very loud and insufferable parents from both clubs and the rest of us would really appreciate it if these two clubs could behave better and hopefully sanction these parents in some way for the vitriolic stuff that has been brewing for the last 3-4 years. Most Madlax and VLC parents are normal and would just like to take our kids to practices and games without these sideshows. The kids at these rival clubs are friends and most of the parents are too. Like one earlier poster put it, you're not anonymous. We all know who the amped up parents are from both clubs. This has been going on for so long and has created so much misery and reputation damage to BOTH clubs, that it is time to stop. And let's be honest...several of the top high school age kids have left both programs for Blackwolf, FCA and 3d. What is that telling us? No wait...this is the part where our clubs like to interject the # of commits bragging and how much other local programs stink, and so do their player and teams.