It's amazing that people like you just assume things and then has to lower the bar and start name calling. Guess that makes you feel better. I never said my son plays on a holdback team. In fact he is age appropriate and plays on an AA team with no holdbacks, just like your son. He is an A/strong B student and I would never consider allowing him to repeat a grade just for a sport. I also said there is NO magic number for holdbacks to be considered appropriate. I no longer coach youth lacrosse, I just don't have the time due to my job commitments and it would not be fair to the payers to do a "part time" coaching job. But I am well connected in the lacrosse community and know what is going on. What I am saying is that Crabs and their leader Ryan McClernan has created a cesspool in youth lacrosse with the holdback situation. I know parents of former Crabs players and they have told me that their son was on Crabs, was a starter and saw lots of playing time but were told that if they wanted to stay with the program their son would have to repeat, thus becoming a holdback. These kids are good students and there was no justified reason to repeat other than Ryan M wanting to have an older/bigger team than others. This is the way he needs to win. I also know holdbacks on other 2020 teams and quite a few were for academic reasons. These kids are not dumb, they just needed more structure and focus in academics, the public schoold system was not for them. I have no problem with this situation but...as this moves forward more and more clubs are going to start following the Crabs business model and getting more holdbacks. And again, a team with 2 or 3 holdbacks is at a definite disadvantage playing a team like Crabs, with 8+ holdbacks, a few double holdbacks (the pre K thing) and you have players on Crabs that are older 14, some turning 15 at the beginning of the season playing against 13 and young 14 year olds. This is a dangerous situation for other teams and my #1 concern, above everything else, is player safety and Crabs keeps creating a dangerous situation for everyone in their league. It is also unfortunate that Ryan McClernan, for whatever unknown reason, carries a lot of weight in youth lacrosse and more often than not gets his way. The team your son plays for could start the holdback thing, it's not beyond realm of possibility. Also your sons team could very well play a team with a higher number of holdbacks in summer tournaments, putting him and his teammates at risk. And no, you do not have to draw me a picture, I completely understand what is going on, obviously you do not. So stop being a d bag. You are the one looking like an idiot ny demonstrating you do not understand what is happening in youth lacrosse and grade base lacrosse.
Have you ever heard of a paragraph? Try using them, it makes it easier to read your nonsense. You should also just chill out a little bit, you seem kind of worked up over this.
Tried using paragraphs, it just kept kicking back for some reason.
Sorry you feel this is nonsense, it really isn't, just working on ways to get this back to age base, the way it should be.
Not worked up about this at all, just the right thing needs to be done. Have some things in process, but it will take time.
I have been around youth lacrosse long enough to see what older teams can do to younger players physically and it's not pretty.
For whatever reason, paragraphs worked this time, didn't kick back. Maybe something wrong with my phone.
Appreciate your insight whether it is paragraphs or not. The majority of AA teams have at least one, if not more, older player not born between 9/1/2001 and 8/31/2002. Anyone who thinks their team does not is just fooling themselves. What do you have in progress and will it be soon enough for the 2020s this year?
Would not want to post on here some of the things myself and others have in progress, other than to say this needs to be handled both from the inside and outside of club leagues.
Knowing how things work in youth lacrosse, the personalities and egos involved, unfortunately it most likely won't happen this year, the season is almost underway/schedules etc. have been established but things can still move along.
More people are starting to realize the inherent dangers of holdbacks in grade base youth lacrosse, and that is the major talking point, along with the possibility of the legal community getting involved in a serious injury.
Youth lacrosse worked fine when it was age based, U12, U14 etc. and this will work today in club lacrosse. If it can be brought back to age base, people must realize some players will have to move to a different age bracket, and that is ok, they still have the opportunity to play lacrosse.
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