Girls High School Lax - US Lacrosse Community Forum

It's the start of a new season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

Does anyone the changes in Nassau County "B" and "C" for 2017.
What teams moved up or down ?
Does the power conference still exist ?

Not sure this is the correct place but congrats to the girls in all the age groups recognized by Inside Lacrosse as being some of the top players in the country .Nice to see so many LI kids and a special congrats to the #1 's , nice job.

Lots of clinics and prospect days coming up here on Long Island. Should be a good gauge on how the talent on the 2019 and 20's are looking. Long Island's talent pool is dwindling and 2019 is such a weak age group all around. Will recruiting pick up for them? TG and YJ already have a few commits, is 2020 the new wave? Should be pretty interesting to see all the girls battling it out for looks. Do any of the High Schools have winter workouts?

2019s are a weak group on long island, how do you figure?

Are 2018s such a strong class? Am i missing something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019s are a weak group on long island, how do you figure?

Well TG for starters commits for 2019 are lagging... should be alot more by now. What's happening there?

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

Not everyone jumps at the first offer on the table. They're 15 relax

I get they are 15, i was responding to the comment, the 2019s are such a weak class. That list is pretty impressive academic/lax wise, no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not everyone jumps at the first offer on the table. They're 15 relax

Your daughter wouldn't jump at a first offer from duke,nd,bc,umd etc...?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are 2018s such a strong class? Am i missing something?

Overall they are maybe a touch above average, but they are in the middle of two weaker than usual classes of 2017 (very weak) and 2019 (slightly weak).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not everyone jumps at the first offer on the table. They're 15 relax

Your daughter wouldn't jump at a first offer from duke,nd,bc,umd etc...?

No actually. She has interest from top d1 programs. Unlike yourself she wants more than books and meals

Interest? funny, everybody has interest...let us know when you get that big offer from the top d1 programs.

Oh lord, are we still doing this top ranked D1 lacrosse thing?
Just in case you didn't notice there are no big offers to play at the professional level either. So why get crazy over this stuff?
After 4 years of D1 level of play only the player will care where they played.

Maybe the employer would care.

My kid is playing at a d2 school. Yes. Oh my god. D2. She wants to be a nurse. Got an outstanding offer for both lax and academics. She's happy I'm happy. Case closed. Keep beating your chests you morons

That's awesome, congrats

D2 here as well, very generous athletic/academic money and we get to see every game as they will all be played within 4 hours of our area. Excellent new program and vibrant, safe campus. Had D1 offers but rosters were huge and some of the colleges were very run down. Listen to your child! It may not be what YOU want but YOU don't have the same instinct your child does, trust in what you raised. I know several girls from club ball who barely played in high school or club but psycho Dads were obsessed with saying the kind d is "playing D1" but what they don't mention is its a flight or 8 hour drive away- for a 10% scholarship.

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D2 here as well, very generous athletic/academic money and we get to see every game as they will all be played within 4 hours of our area. Excellent new program and vibrant, safe campus. Had D1 offers but rosters were huge and some of the colleges were very run down. Listen to your child! It may not be what YOU want but YOU don't have the same instinct your child does, trust in what you raised. I know several girls from club ball who barely played in high school or club but psycho Dads were obsessed with saying the kind d is "playing D1" but what they don't mention is its a flight or 8 hour drive away- for a 10% scholarship.

I love this post!! 9 times out of 10 it's the parents bragging rights that get in the way. Some very nice d2 schools out there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

That's got to be one of the dumbest things that I ever heard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

That's got to be one of the dumbest things that I ever heard

Are you unable to read the sarcasm?

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

That's got to be one of the dumbest things that I ever heard

Are you unable to read the sarcasm?

Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

That's got to be one of the dumbest things that I ever heard

Are you unable to read the sarcasm?

Thank you

Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to S#!$ on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

I feel your pain. And we shall wait together to find out what great D1 schools were turned down for these amazing D2 opportunities. That plane ride to Stanford or Northwestern is soooo overrated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D2 here as well, very generous athletic/academic money and we get to see every game as they will all be played within 4 hours of our area. Excellent new program and vibrant, safe campus. Had D1 offers but rosters were huge and some of the colleges were very run down. Listen to your child! It may not be what YOU want but YOU don't have the same instinct your child does, trust in what you raised. I know several girls from club ball who barely played in high school or club but psycho Dads were obsessed with saying the kind d is "playing D1" but what they don't mention is its a flight or 8 hour drive away- for a 10% scholarship.

I love this post!! 9 times out of 10 it's the parents bragging rights that get in the way. Some very nice d2 schools out there

100% agree. Some parents would rather their kids play at the 110th D1 school which plays absolutely awful lacrosse just to say they play D1. Bad academics and bad lacrosse but it is D1!

Glad to see more realistic conversation about low D1 and D2's instead of every person on here talking about how lacrosse is getting their kid into NC or an IVY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Its just my opinion, but i would sacrifice me being able to see my kid play live, for her to be at a better school. We've heard on the forum alot about kids having good d1 offers, curious to hear which schools. I do agree with going to a D2 school instead of a D1 school and not getting on the field. With that said its none of my business or anyone else what decisions people make.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Its just my opinion, but i would sacrifice me being able to see my kid play live, for her to be at a better school. We've heard on the forum alot about kids having good d1 offers, curious to hear which schools. I do agree with going to a D2 school instead of a D1 school and not getting on the field. With that said its none of my business or anyone else what decisions people make.

Everyone should make whatever decisions are best for them of course. There is just so much misinformation floating around on here though that sometimes it seems like it's difficult to really know the tradeoffs you are making. Financially, academically etc. Not just for the short run, but for the long run. For instance, if it's a 10k a year difference, but a much better academic institution, seems like it might be worth it to take a student loan for the difference etc. Or the guy that says u need 100 GPA to get into an Ivy, which is wrong. And I know a kid going to G-town w a 2.9 GPA and one to BC w similar. So what are the grades a kid actually needs to get into certain schools. Whether it's D1, D2 or D3. It would be great if people were willing to honestly share the tradeoffs they have made. It would help the rest of us. What D1 schools were turned down for the D2 opportunity. Who's kid made the decision to play D3? Why? What's the equivalent talent level in D1 for Courtland or Middlebury? So what are some likely choices between divisions for that level of player etc.

Turned down Coastal Carolina (pretty but did not offer enough$$) LaSalle (too small and daughter did not get a good vibe from team) and Niagara (they will take anyone from LI, not competitive and way to far). Had great offers from Limestone (loved it but too far) Mercy (gorgeous new school in great college town, coach terrific) Pace (new program, bigger school and great energy) and Adelphi (not much $$ and too close lol). Decided on Pace, like the new facilities and roster size plus they offer great business program. Daughters bf going to Mercy so it's a win win for us. To everyone starting to look- visit schools while they are in session. Go to a game, watch the coach, see if you like the style of coaching. New programs offer unique opportunities, don't rule them out. No reason to insult anyone on their decisions, it's about finding the right fit with ALL factors considered. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Its just my opinion, but i would sacrifice me being able to see my kid play live, for her to be at a better school. We've heard on the forum alot about kids having good d1 offers, curious to hear which schools. I do agree with going to a D2 school instead of a D1 school and not getting on the field. With that said its none of my business or anyone else what decisions people make.

Everyone should make whatever decisions are best for them of course. There is just so much misinformation floating around on here though that sometimes it seems like it's difficult to really know the tradeoffs you are making. Financially, academically etc. Not just for the short run, but for the long run. For instance, if it's a 10k a year difference, but a much better academic institution, seems like it might be worth it to take a student loan for the difference etc. Or the guy that says u need 100 GPA to get into an Ivy, which is wrong. And I know a kid going to G-town w a 2.9 GPA and one to BC w similar. So what are the grades a kid actually needs to get into certain schools. Whether it's D1, D2 or D3. It would be great if people were willing to honestly share the tradeoffs they have made. It would help the rest of us. What D1 schools were turned down for the D2 opportunity. Who's kid made the decision to play D3? Why? What's the equivalent talent level in D1 for Courtland or Middlebury? So what are some likely choices between divisions for that level of player etc.

Well said, i agree on all points 100%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turned down Coastal Carolina (pretty but did not offer enough$$) LaSalle (too small and daughter did not get a good vibe from team) and Niagara (they will take anyone from LI, not competitive and way to far). Had great offers from Limestone (loved it but too far) Mercy (gorgeous new school in great college town, coach terrific) Pace (new program, bigger school and great energy) and Adelphi (not much $$ and too close lol). Decided on Pace, like the new facilities and roster size plus they offer great business program. Daughters bf going to Mercy so it's a win win for us. To everyone starting to look- visit schools while they are in session. Go to a game, watch the coach, see if you like the style of coaching. New programs offer unique opportunities, don't rule them out. No reason to insult anyone on their decisions, it's about finding the right fit with ALL factors considered. Good luck.

THANK YOU! That is great info and helps frame some of the discussion. Best of luck to your family.

Hofstra -she didn't like SSat all and no I'm not a YJ dad, Sacred Heart, didn't like school and Denver, despite decent financial offer the cost of travel to see games and get home wasn't beneficial. Decided on Caldwell. Small school, very generous and coach sincerely cares about each girl. If your kid loves the game and doesn't play she will be miserable and come home and be embarrassed. Look at stats, find out if coach plays underclass. It's s significant piece to decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hofstra -she didn't like SSat all and no I'm not a YJ dad, Sacred Heart, didn't like school and Denver, despite decent financial offer the cost of travel to see games and get home wasn't beneficial. Decided on Caldwell. Small school, very generous and coach sincerely cares about each girl. If your kid loves the game and doesn't play she will be miserable and come home and be embarrassed. Look at stats, find out if coach plays underclass. It's s significant piece to decision.

Look at subbing too. IF the coach subs rarely, and always the same 2 or 3 players, then it's tough to break in to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hofstra -she didn't like SSat all and no I'm not a YJ dad, Sacred Heart, didn't like school and Denver, despite decent financial offer the cost of travel to see games and get home wasn't beneficial. Decided on Caldwell. Small school, very generous and coach sincerely cares about each girl. If your kid loves the game and doesn't play she will be miserable and come home and be embarrassed. Look at stats, find out if coach plays underclass. It's s significant piece to decision.

This was an exact question my daughter asked several coaches about playing time as a freshman. The school she chose the coach said. Why would I only play my upperclassmen. When they graduate what am I supposed to do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Its just my opinion, but i would sacrifice me being able to see my kid play live, for her to be at a better school. We've heard on the forum alot about kids having good d1 offers, curious to hear which schools. I do agree with going to a D2 school instead of a D1 school and not getting on the field. With that said its none of my business or anyone else what decisions people make.

Everyone should make whatever decisions are best for them of course. There is just so much misinformation floating around on here though that sometimes it seems like it's difficult to really know the tradeoffs you are making. Financially, academically etc. Not just for the short run, but for the long run. For instance, if it's a 10k a year difference, but a much better academic institution, seems like it might be worth it to take a student loan for the difference etc. Or the guy that says u need 100 GPA to get into an Ivy, which is wrong. And I know a kid going to G-town w a 2.9 GPA and one to BC w similar. So what are the grades a kid actually needs to get into certain schools. Whether it's D1, D2 or D3. It would be great if people were willing to honestly share the tradeoffs they have made. It would help the rest of us. What D1 schools were turned down for the D2 opportunity. Who's kid made the decision to play D3? Why? What's the equivalent talent level in D1 for Courtland or Middlebury? So what are some likely choices between divisions for that level of player etc.

"What are the grades that a kid actually needs to get into certain schools?"

- It all depends on where the coach has the player ranked on their recruiting list. The #1 recruit on the list will not have the same requirements as the # 8.

The Ivy's work off of an "academic index" there are minimum requirements for each individual. However, the average for the recruiting class is significantly higher than the minimum therefore if a priority recruit is close to the minimum the coach will take a less qualified player if they have better grades (in order to pull the class average up).

Other Highly Competitive Schools such as Duke, Georgetown, BC, ND etc... have what are known as "Slots". The coach has the ability to get a certain number of players into the school. In general, those students must have very good grades but the requirements are less than a regular student would need to get into the school. For a recruited athlete the coach would like to see 90+ avg and a minimum of 1200 on the SAT and 27 ACT. Anything less would be cause for concern. Again, the coach will have more flexibility with their top recruits.

From what I have been told, Northwestern does not have a cap on admission slots but they follow similar guideline as to who they choose to get into the school.

Remember, the coaches want the kids to be successful both on the field and in the classroom. Coaches will only take so many chances with players who do not demonstrate that they have the ability to succeed in the classroom.

As far as scholarship dollars go, don't listen to anyone. Each individual case is different. The Top recruits at fully funded schools are offered significant $$. The #1 recruit might get 75% or more, the #5 might get 25-30% and the #9 or #10 might be offered an admission slot and no athletic scholarship.
Each case is different.

If finances and cost are your biggest concern explore all options. If your daughter is a good student and a good lacrosse player you should be able to find a school that will be able to make it work financially.

If your daughter is a great student and a great lacrosse player she can write her own ticked to any school she wants. if your daughter is great student and an ok lacrosse player she can fide a school that will give her a lot of academic $$. If your daughter is a great lacrosse player and an average student she will be just fine as well, some really good schools will give plenty of athletic $$.

Ivy's do not offer athletic scholarships. (they have very generous need based aid).

Schools like Northwestens, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, BC also offer generous need based aid packages. (they also offer athletic scholarships)

To the best of my knowledge you can not combine Athletic $$ and Need Based Aid. You can however combine Academic $$ and Athletic $$.

If your daughter is being recruited and offered a spot at North Carolina, Maryland, Penn State and Syracuse but not being offered a lot of $$ you can drop down a notch and be offered a lot more $$. It works the same way on the Academic side. If your daughter has the grades to be recruited and offered a spot and an Ivy you can drop down a bit academically and pick up significant academic $$.

DII and DIII have different rules than DI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Its just my opinion, but i would sacrifice me being able to see my kid play live, for her to be at a better school. We've heard on the forum alot about kids having good d1 offers, curious to hear which schools. I do agree with going to a D2 school instead of a D1 school and not getting on the field. With that said its none of my business or anyone else what decisions people make.

Everyone should make whatever decisions are best for them of course. There is just so much misinformation floating around on here though that sometimes it seems like it's difficult to really know the tradeoffs you are making. Financially, academically etc. Not just for the short run, but for the long run. For instance, if it's a 10k a year difference, but a much better academic institution, seems like it might be worth it to take a student loan for the difference etc. Or the guy that says u need 100 GPA to get into an Ivy, which is wrong. And I know a kid going to G-town w a 2.9 GPA and one to BC w similar. So what are the grades a kid actually needs to get into certain schools. Whether it's D1, D2 or D3. It would be great if people were willing to honestly share the tradeoffs they have made. It would help the rest of us. What D1 schools were turned down for the D2 opportunity. Who's kid made the decision to play D3? Why? What's the equivalent talent level in D1 for Courtland or Middlebury? So what are some likely choices between divisions for that level of player etc.

"What are the grades that a kid actually needs to get into certain schools?"

- It all depends on where the coach has the player ranked on their recruiting list. The #1 recruit on the list will not have the same requirements as the # 8.

The Ivy's work off of an "academic index" there are minimum requirements for each individual. However, the average for the recruiting class is significantly higher than the minimum therefore if a priority recruit is close to the minimum the coach will take a less qualified player if they have better grades (in order to pull the class average up).

Other Highly Competitive Schools such as Duke, Georgetown, BC, ND etc... have what are known as "Slots". The coach has the ability to get a certain number of players into the school. In general, those students must have very good grades but the requirements are less than a regular student would need to get into the school. For a recruited athlete the coach would like to see 90+ avg and a minimum of 1200 on the SAT and 27 ACT. Anything less would be cause for concern. Again, the coach will have more flexibility with their top recruits.

From what I have been told, Northwestern does not have a cap on admission slots but they follow similar guideline as to who they choose to get into the school.

Remember, the coaches want the kids to be successful both on the field and in the classroom. Coaches will only take so many chances with players who do not demonstrate that they have the ability to succeed in the classroom.

As far as scholarship dollars go, don't listen to anyone. Each individual case is different. The Top recruits at fully funded schools are offered significant $$. The #1 recruit might get 75% or more, the #5 might get 25-30% and the #9 or #10 might be offered an admission slot and no athletic scholarship.
Each case is different.

If finances and cost are your biggest concern explore all options. If your daughter is a good student and a good lacrosse player you should be able to find a school that will be able to make it work financially.

If your daughter is a great student and a great lacrosse player she can write her own ticked to any school she wants. if your daughter is great student and an ok lacrosse player she can fide a school that will give her a lot of academic $$. If your daughter is a great lacrosse player and an average student she will be just fine as well, some really good schools will give plenty of athletic $$.

Ivy's do not offer athletic scholarships. (they have very generous need based aid).

Schools like Northwestens, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, BC also offer generous need based aid packages. (they also offer athletic scholarships)

To the best of my knowledge you can not combine Athletic $$ and Need Based Aid. You can however combine Academic $$ and Athletic $$.

If your daughter is being recruited and offered a spot at North Carolina, Maryland, Penn State and Syracuse but not being offered a lot of $$ you can drop down a notch and be offered a lot more $$. It works the same way on the Academic side. If your daughter has the grades to be recruited and offered a spot and an Ivy you can drop down a bit academically and pick up significant academic $$.

DII and DIII have different rules than DI.

Wow. Thank you. Best, most accurate post I have ever seen on here. Huge help to lots of people trying to figure out the road ahead.

Thank you for taking your own time to add productive information. So often the crazy comments take away from sharing important views.

Very good post , would say I have found some schools reluctant to give out both academic and athletic money . What I mean is if you are getting athletic money you needed to be above the non athlete academically to get the same academic money . As an example let's say at a school a 3.7 gets you a 25 percent academic monies , as an athlete you would need a 3.8-3.85 . I have been told that this is done so as to not set off any red flags at the NCAA i.e. Institutions that give academic money as a way to get more athletes in . Makes getting academic and athletic money very difficult at say a Duke and even at certain state schools , UVA , UNC, UMD , etc when applying from out of state .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Its just my opinion, but i would sacrifice me being able to see my kid play live, for her to be at a better school. We've heard on the forum alot about kids having good d1 offers, curious to hear which schools. I do agree with going to a D2 school instead of a D1 school and not getting on the field. With that said its none of my business or anyone else what decisions people make.

Everyone should make whatever decisions are best for them of course. There is just so much misinformation floating around on here though that sometimes it seems like it's difficult to really know the tradeoffs you are making. Financially, academically etc. Not just for the short run, but for the long run. For instance, if it's a 10k a year difference, but a much better academic institution, seems like it might be worth it to take a student loan for the difference etc. Or the guy that says u need 100 GPA to get into an Ivy, which is wrong. And I know a kid going to G-town w a 2.9 GPA and one to BC w similar. So what are the grades a kid actually needs to get into certain schools. Whether it's D1, D2 or D3. It would be great if people were willing to honestly share the tradeoffs they have made. It would help the rest of us. What D1 schools were turned down for the D2 opportunity. Who's kid made the decision to play D3? Why? What's the equivalent talent level in D1 for Courtland or Middlebury? So what are some likely choices between divisions for that level of player etc.

"What are the grades that a kid actually needs to get into certain schools?"

- It all depends on where the coach has the player ranked on their recruiting list. The #1 recruit on the list will not have the same requirements as the # 8.

The Ivy's work off of an "academic index" there are minimum requirements for each individual. However, the average for the recruiting class is significantly higher than the minimum therefore if a priority recruit is close to the minimum the coach will take a less qualified player if they have better grades (in order to pull the class average up).

Other Highly Competitive Schools such as Duke, Georgetown, BC, ND etc... have what are known as "Slots". The coach has the ability to get a certain number of players into the school. In general, those students must have very good grades but the requirements are less than a regular student would need to get into the school. For a recruited athlete the coach would like to see 90+ avg and a minimum of 1200 on the SAT and 27 ACT. Anything less would be cause for concern. Again, the coach will have more flexibility with their top recruits.

From what I have been told, Northwestern does not have a cap on admission slots but they follow similar guideline as to who they choose to get into the school.

Remember, the coaches want the kids to be successful both on the field and in the classroom. Coaches will only take so many chances with players who do not demonstrate that they have the ability to succeed in the classroom.

As far as scholarship dollars go, don't listen to anyone. Each individual case is different. The Top recruits at fully funded schools are offered significant $$. The #1 recruit might get 75% or more, the #5 might get 25-30% and the #9 or #10 might be offered an admission slot and no athletic scholarship.
Each case is different.

If finances and cost are your biggest concern explore all options. If your daughter is a good student and a good lacrosse player you should be able to find a school that will be able to make it work financially.

If your daughter is a great student and a great lacrosse player she can write her own ticked to any school she wants. if your daughter is great student and an ok lacrosse player she can fide a school that will give her a lot of academic $$. If your daughter is a great lacrosse player and an average student she will be just fine as well, some really good schools will give plenty of athletic $$.

Ivy's do not offer athletic scholarships. (they have very generous need based aid).

Schools like Northwestens, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, BC also offer generous need based aid packages. (they also offer athletic scholarships)

To the best of my knowledge you can not combine Athletic $$ and Need Based Aid. You can however combine Academic $$ and Athletic $$.

If your daughter is being recruited and offered a spot at North Carolina, Maryland, Penn State and Syracuse but not being offered a lot of $$ you can drop down a notch and be offered a lot more $$. It works the same way on the Academic side. If your daughter has the grades to be recruited and offered a spot and an Ivy you can drop down a bit academically and pick up significant academic $$.

DII and DIII have different rules than DI.

Some thoughts that might be helpful.

If a school expresses sincere interest and you and your daughter think the school is a good fit be sure to make the coach aware that your daughter would love to attend the school. Unless your daughter is a true stud there will be 10 other girls on the coaches list that are just as good as your daughter. Coaches want to take the kids who want to go to their school. All things being equal they will take the girl who returns the most love.

There is nothing wrong with setting high goals, dreaming big and shooting for the stars but once the recruiting process begins you and your daughter need to evaluate honestly.

To start, all of the big time programs go after most of the same kids. Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Duke, Syracuse, Princeton, Penn, Florida, BC, ND, Penn State, Southern California, Stanford and any other perennial Top 10 - 20 team recruit the same 10 - 30 girls. After the majority of the top recruits commit the coaches move on and start on the next group. No one school gets all of the top girls. Some get more than others but nobody gets all of the top recruits.

The takeaway is (and this is where honestly evaluating comes in) The caliber of schools (lacrosse caliber) that are making offers will tell you where you stand. Maryland, North Carolina and Northwestern are not competing against UMass, UConn and Albany for their top recruits. If the top programs are not making offers your daughter is probably not a top recruit. Thats okay, there are great schools with great lacrosse programs that your daughter can have a great experience at without going to the Final Four.

All is not lost if you do not get offers in the first few rounds. When schools start to fill up their spots the dynamic and criteria can change. Schools do not get all of the recruits they want. For example: the top five recruits on Notre Dames list could choose to go to Duke, Northwestern, Princeton, Stanford and Virginia. When that occurs ND's #6 and #7 become #1 and #2 very quickly. Cornell's top recruits might choose to go to Hopkins, Princeton and Penn. Uconn's top recruits might choose to go to Stony Brook, UMass and Boston University. You get the idea.

Also, in the later rounds, GPA and Test Scores play a larger role as does money.
Harvard or Penn might have a spot for a kid who has exceptional grades and test scores. Duke or North Carolina might have a spot for a for a student athlete who has very good grades and does not need any financial help.

DI, II and III combine for 500 plus Women's Lacrosse Programs. Add to that all of the competitive Club Programs and there is a place for your daughter to play if they enjoy all that a team sport can offer a college student.

Maybe your daughter has very good grades and test scores, wants to go to a big Rah Rah school but is not a strong enough player to compete at Maryland, North Carolina or Penn State. Maybe she can get a lot of academic money at Ohio State or another big university and play club and have an incredible college experience and get great education. Again, you get the idea.

Don't get caught up in the mess that we call youth/HS/club lacrosse. Be smart, remember when one door closes another one opens. Find the best opportunity for your daughter and don't worry about what everyone else is doing.

Good luck to all and enjoy the ride.

From someone who has been down the road a few times with kids of different abilities and interests. From top recruit to middle of the pack. From great student to average student.

Monmouth and UMass Lowell made very nice offers to me. I decided on Tufts, I really liked the school and I liked how the girls on the team all bonded with each other. no regrets here!

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

SMART GIRL!!!! Why would you go to either school if you can get into Tufts!! Good Luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree. Except it's more like the top 8-10 schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree. Except it's more like the top 8-10 schools.

Just to be clear, your saying #11 vs #50 would be an even game...very even mediocre game? pretty clueless comment

#21's like James Madison and BC are just like #49 and 50 Denver and Bryant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SMART GIRL!!!! Why would you go to either school if you can get into Tufts!! Good Luck!

Of course Monmouth wanted her she would have been the smartest girl on campus. Average SAT for Tufts is 1450 average SAT for Monmouth is 1000 and if you can play its even lower.

Go for the education every time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree! And remember a D3 or D 2 NCAA championship game is no less important than a D1 'ship! Despite what some dillusional moms say ALL NCAA rings cost the same, so the lunatic that tries to say her sons D1 ring is $2500 looks like an idiot-and so does her child, especially when he's handing out water on the sideline in his collared shirt and pants. Celebrate all athletes, especially those who actually play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree! And remember a D3 or D 2 NCAA championship game is no less important than a D1 'ship! Despite what some dillusional moms say ALL NCAA rings cost the same, so the lunatic that tries to say her sons D1 ring is $2500 looks like an idiot-and so does her child, especially when he's handing out water on the sideline in his collared shirt and pants. Celebrate all athletes, especially those who actually play.

The rationalizations keep coming and the stones keep getting thrown at high acieving kids. You jealous parents r pretty pathetic. Get over it. Your kid is ok, not great, but there is nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SMART GIRL!!!! Why would you go to either school if you can get into Tufts!! Good Luck!

Of course Monmouth wanted her she would have been the smartest girl on campus. Average SAT for Tufts is 1450 average SAT for Monmouth is 1000 and if you can play its even lower.

Go for the education every time!

Last time that I checked...

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Duke, Penn, Hopkins, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, University of California--Berkeley, Southern California, Virginia, Michigan, North Carolina, Boston College, William and Mary, UC Santa Barbara, Boston University, North Eastern, Lehigh, Penn State, Florida, Villanova and many more including Army and Navy .

All have DI Women's Lacrosse Programs.

The jealousy and bitterness on this site is unbelievable.

You can get a great education and play DI lacrosse.

Find the best fit for your daughter and don't knock those who choose a different path.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree! And remember a D3 or D 2 NCAA championship game is no less important than a D1 'ship! Despite what some dillusional moms say ALL NCAA rings cost the same, so the lunatic that tries to say her sons D1 ring is $2500 looks like an idiot-and so does her child, especially when he's handing out water on the sideline in his collared shirt and pants. Celebrate all athletes, especially those who actually play.

The rationalizations keep coming and the stones keep getting thrown at high acieving kids. You jealous parents r pretty pathetic. Get over it. Your kid is ok, not great, but there is nothing wrong with that.

I never heard of so many high achieving kids in my life, seems every parent that posts on this board has a kid going to Northwestern or Stanford. I always thought my daughter was in the majority with her 90+gpa and pretty good lax skills but I guess we are the exception. Who would have thought?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree! And remember a D3 or D 2 NCAA championship game is no less important than a D1 'ship! Despite what some dillusional moms say ALL NCAA rings cost the same, so the lunatic that tries to say her sons D1 ring is $2500 looks like an idiot-and so does her child, especially when he's handing out water on the sideline in his collared shirt and pants. Celebrate all athletes, especially those who actually play.

The rationalizations keep coming and the stones keep getting thrown at high acieving kids. You jealous parents r pretty pathetic. Get over it. Your kid is ok, not great, but there is nothing wrong with that.

I never heard of so many high achieving kids in my life, seems every parent that posts on this board has a kid going to Northwestern or Stanford. I always thought my daughter was in the majority with her 90+gpa and pretty good lax skills but I guess we are the exception. Who would have thought?

90+ GPA (as long as that's in honors/AP classes) will get your kid in most places if they have the lax skills. Sounds like yours might not be as good as you think. Someone just listed for you above a very long list (and still not complete) of great academic institutions w D1 lax. Well beyond just NU and Stanford. If your 90+ GPA daughter isn't being looked at by them, it just means she's not a good enough lax player. No problem, it isn't a good fit and she will end up in a great situation for her somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree. Except it's more like the top 8-10 schools.

Just to be clear, your saying #11 vs #50 would be an even game...very even mediocre game? pretty clueless comment

The point is that it's very middle of the road lacrosse after the top 10-12. Most of the best athletes end up at a top 10 school. Look at the poles, and who is in the tournament year after year. It doesn't change much. Yes, if you look at it literally an 11 or 12 will usually beat a 50, but the lacrosse and level of play is just not what it is at the top schools. The drop off is drastic at a certain point. The poster who said find the best fit is absolutely right. At the end of the day it's all about the overall college experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree. Except it's more like the top 8-10 schools.

Just to be clear, your saying #11 vs #50 would be an even game...very even mediocre game? pretty clueless comment

The point is that it's very middle of the road lacrosse after the top 10-12. Most of the best athletes end up at a top 10 school. Look at the poles, and who is in the tournament year after year. It doesn't change much. Yes, if you look at it literally an 11 or 12 will usually beat a 50, but the lacrosse and level of play is just not what it is at the top schools. The drop off is drastic at a certain point. The poster who said find the best fit is absolutely right. At the end of the day it's all about the overall college experience.

And some kids that are having the best college experience are at schools ranked 50-125 where the lacrosse is dreadful but the girls play big minutes as freshman and have a better lax/life balance. If you aren't going to a school that will compete for a national championship pick a school that is the perfect fit we have been there!

Plenty of kids never seeing the field on those top teams...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree. Except it's more like the top 8-10 schools.

Just to be clear, your saying #11 vs #50 would be an even game...very even mediocre game? pretty clueless comment

The point is that it's very middle of the road lacrosse after the top 10-12. Most of the best athletes end up at a top 10 school. Look at the poles, and who is in the tournament year after year. It doesn't change much. Yes, if you look at it literally an 11 or 12 will usually beat a 50, but the lacrosse and level of play is just not what it is at the top schools. The drop off is drastic at a certain point. The poster who said find the best fit is absolutely right. At the end of the day it's all about the overall college experience.

And some kids that are having the best college experience are at schools ranked 50-125 where the lacrosse is dreadful but the girls play big minutes as freshman and have a better lax/life balance. If you aren't going to a school that will compete for a national championship pick a school that is the perfect fit we have been there!

And some kids are having the best college experience at schools ranked 10-50. And some at top 10. And some at D3 etc. All this stuff is nonsense. Kids can have good and bad experiences at all of these places. But what is a fact is that parents keep trying to downplay the highest achieving most talented lax kids, by claiming that they aren't having a good college experience, or they aren't playing, or they don't take tough classes and on and on. The reality is that it is mostly just jealousy. There are many many girls playing on very good lax teams, getting great educations and loving their college experience. Is it for everyone. Absolutely not. You have to be highly motivated, highly skilled and a strong student to handle it all well. So kudos those kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree. Except it's more like the top 8-10 schools.

Clearly have zero idea what you are talking about. Let me guess, u can't understand why your daughter wasn't recruited at BC, Penn, Stanford, UVA ... u know, those mediocre below 8-10 teams in the country. I'm sure there are lots of people that could tell you why. You just won't believe them.

If you don't mind me asking what kind of offers did Tufts put out there? My daughter may be looking into Tufts and we don't know anyone who goes there and plays lacrosse. If you don't want to share I understand. thx

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't mind me asking what kind of offers did Tufts put out there? My daughter may be looking into Tufts and we don't know anyone who goes there and plays lacrosse. If you don't want to share I understand. thx

D3 no athletic monies but lots of academic awards and there should be since the school has a starting price of $65k! Lax will get a slightly weaker academic kid in but in our experience D3 doesn't bend nearly as much on the academics as NCAA D1 sports. Just watch march madness of ACC or SEC football and its pretty obvious coaches are walking players in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the top 20 schools most are all playing the same mediocre lacrosse so unless your daughter is an absolute star pick the school where she will be successful on and off the field and if she goes somewhere where you can actually get to watch games that's a huge plus!

Parents who have watched every game their daughter has ever played are in for a real shock when games are being played on the west coast and they cant attend anymore

I agree. Except it's more like the top 8-10 schools.

Just to be clear, your saying #11 vs #50 would be an even game...very even mediocre game? pretty clueless comment

The point is that it's very middle of the road lacrosse after the top 10-12. Most of the best athletes end up at a top 10 school. Look at the poles, and who is in the tournament year after year. It doesn't change much. Yes, if you look at it literally an 11 or 12 will usually beat a 50, but the lacrosse and level of play is just not what it is at the top schools. The drop off is drastic at a certain point. The poster who said find the best fit is absolutely right. At the end of the day it's all about the overall college experience.

And some kids that are having the best college experience are at schools ranked 50-125 where the lacrosse is dreadful but the girls play big minutes as freshman and have a better lax/life balance. If you aren't going to a school that will compete for a national championship pick a school that is the perfect fit we have been there!

And some kids are having the best college experience at schools ranked 10-50. And some at top 10. And some at D3 etc. All this stuff is nonsense. Kids can have good and bad experiences at all of these places. But what is a fact is that parents keep trying to downplay the highest achieving most talented lax kids, by claiming that they aren't having a good college experience, or they aren't playing, or they don't take tough classes and on and on. The reality is that it is mostly just jealousy. There are many many girls playing on very good lax teams, getting great educations and loving their college experience. Is it for everyone. Absolutely not. You have to be highly motivated, highly skilled and a strong student to handle it all well. So kudos those kids.

Best post I have seen .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't mind me asking what kind of offers did Tufts put out there? My daughter may be looking into Tufts and we don't know anyone who goes there and plays lacrosse. If you don't want to share I understand. thx

It's D3. there are no offers.

they usually offer a full ride.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't mind me asking what kind of offers did Tufts put out there? My daughter may be looking into Tufts and we don't know anyone who goes there and plays lacrosse. If you don't want to share I understand. thx

D3 no athletic monies but lots of academic awards and there should be since the school has a starting price of $65k! Lax will get a slightly weaker academic kid in but in our experience D3 doesn't bend nearly as much on the academics as NCAA D1 sports. Just watch march madness of ACC or SEC football and its pretty obvious coaches are walking players in

If you think you will be getting academic money to tufts you better have 1500 SAT and be top in your class

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't mind me asking what kind of offers did Tufts put out there? My daughter may be looking into Tufts and we don't know anyone who goes there and plays lacrosse. If you don't want to share I understand. thx

D3 no athletic monies but lots of academic awards and there should be since the school has a starting price of $65k! Lax will get a slightly weaker academic kid in but in our experience D3 doesn't bend nearly as much on the academics as NCAA D1 sports. Just watch march madness of ACC or SEC football and its pretty obvious coaches are walking players in

If you think you will be getting academic money to tufts you better have 1500 SAT and be top in your class

FYI, Tufts offers no merit scholarships. $0. No athletic money either obviously. They do meet 100% of financial need as determined by the parents EFC, but again, no merit money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't mind me asking what kind of offers did Tufts put out there? My daughter may be looking into Tufts and we don't know anyone who goes there and plays lacrosse. If you don't want to share I understand. thx

D3 no athletic monies but lots of academic awards and there should be since the school has a starting price of $65k! Lax will get a slightly weaker academic kid in but in our experience D3 doesn't bend nearly as much on the academics as NCAA D1 sports. Just watch march madness of ACC or SEC football and its pretty obvious coaches are walking players in

If you think you will be getting academic money to tufts you better have 1500 SAT and be top in your class

Every parent on this board says their kid has that HAHA

The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Long Island has
10 of top 40
4 of next 40
14 out of 80
Times are changing CR must be losing her pull

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals. [/quote

Huh. Don't tell me u r a Trumpista conspiracy nut? The guy is a scumbag. Get over it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals. [/quote

Huh. Don't tell me u r a Trumpista conspiracy nut? The guy is a scumbag. Get over it.

And she isn't?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals. [/quote

Huh. Don't tell me u r a Trumpista conspiracy nut? The guy is a scumbag. Get over it.

And she isn't?

So at least you admit he is. I'm a republican and will not vote for him. How about you? I've got daughters that deserve better than that scumbag. I will be writing in a candidate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals. [/quote

Huh. Don't tell me u r a Trumpista conspiracy nut? The guy is a scumbag. Get over it.

Really a Hillery supporter, stick your head back in the sand ostrich, I would vove for Charls Manson first, he has killed less people, and at least he's honest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals. [/quote

Huh. Don't tell me u r a Trumpista conspiracy nut? The guy is a scumbag. Get over it.

Really a Hillery supporter, stick your head back in the sand ostrich, I would vove for Charls Manson first, he has killed less people, and at least he's honest

he is honest?????????????? wow u live in a fantasy world. Albeit a deep dark one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals.

I will translate this post for you . My little superstar did not get named so there must be a reason because she is the greatest player my wife and I have ever seen . Stop being a douchbag , congratulate the kids on the list and move on . What you really should do is introduce yourself to some of the kids on the list dads if you see them at a tournament and tell them your opinion , now that would be a first .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals. [/quote

Huh. Don't tell me u r a Trumpista conspiracy nut? The guy is a scumbag. Get over it.

And she isn't?

So at least you admit he is. I'm a republican and will not vote for him. How about you? I've got daughters that deserve better than that scumbag. I will be writing in a candidate.

Writing in CR?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] The Inside Lacrosse "Young Gun" Watch list is posted on the website. It was interesting to see that a good number of kids on the list are from non Hot Bed areas..
California, Oregon, Pennsylvania Georgia to name but few..
The game is growing..
The number one Senior is still from LI though

Is great to see it growing. Somewhat of a popularity contest as well. Several girls on the younger lists are there because their older sisters are really good etc. Is what it is. Not to mention that inside lax expands their readership if there if geographic diversity on these lists.

I will translate this post, qbecause it's true. inside Lacrosse stands to benefit if it adds players from outside the mid Atlantic, New [lacrosse] try-state, New England regions. They are trying to "grow readership" as much as the sport. The truth is 490 out of 500 players could be justified from within the 3 above mentioned areas. keep in mind the current political situation and what the media can accomplish to further it's own goals. [/quote

Huh. Don't tell me u r a Trumpista conspiracy nut? The guy is a scumbag. Get over it.

And she isn't?

So at least you admit he is. I'm a republican and will not vote for him. How about you? I've got daughters that deserve better than that scumbag. I will be writing in a candidate.

Writing in CR?

Hillary is somebody you would want your daughters to emulate? h

Hillary is somebody you would want your daughters to emulate? h[/quote]

President George H. W. Bush does. You mean a highly intelligent, hard working, accomplished woman? You do realize you are talking about the likely first woman President of the United States of America. 30 years of old white men fearing a woman president has resulted in 3 decades of trashing this woman. And she has withstood it and looks like she is going to come out on top. I'd say there is quite a lot to be emulated there for young women. And if you are a Trump supporter, you are the likely reason it's going to happen. Because if MY republican party had nominated a reasonable candidate, we would have won the election going away. So yeah, I can both not like many of her/Dems policies and still recognize that she is an accomplished woman. And I can also hate the fact that Trump is our nominee.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hillary is somebody you would want your daughters to emulate? h

President George H. W. Bush does. You mean a highly intelligent, hard working, accomplished woman? You do realize you are talking about the likely first woman President of the United States of America. 30 years of old white men fearing a woman president has resulted in 3 decades of trashing this woman. And she has withstood it and looks like she is going to come out on top. I'd say there is quite a lot to be emulated there for young women. And if you are a Trump supporter, you are the likely reason it's going to happen. Because if MY republican party had nominated a reasonable candidate, we would have won the election going away. So yeah, I can both not like many of her/Dems policies and still recognize that she is an accomplished woman. And I can also hate the fact that Trump is our nominee. [/quote]

Accomplished at what , staying with her rapist husband because it would help forward her career , or dragging her husbands accusers thru the mud . There have been plenty of scumbag politicians who were successful and she is just another one .

Lacrosse forum, people. Not a political forum. Stop the Trump/Clinton talk as both are going to be why WW3 begins. No reason to battle about it here. Get back to bashing clubs/teams/players/coaches/dads/moms/siblings, it better suits you all.

at least Trump may have been exposed to Lax at a prep school somewhere in his past....closest HRC ever came to a Lax stick is the one she found, along with the cigar, after Monica Lewinsky left Bubba in the Oval Office..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

at least Trump may have been exposed to Lax at a prep school somewhere in his past....closest HRC ever came to a Lax stick is the one she found, along with the cigar, after Monica Lewinsky left Bubba in the Oval Office..

And there is whyu should not be on a girls high school forum and why republican women in droves are not walking but running from your guy Trump. U r disgusting and I feel for your daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]at least Trump may have been exposed to Lax at a prep school somewhere in his past....closest HRC ever came to a Lax stick is the one she found, along with the cigar, after Monica Lewinsky left Bubba in the Oval Office..

And there is whyu should not be on a girls high school forum and why republican women in droves are not walking but running from your guy Trump. U r disgusting and I feel for your daughter. [/qu

Too funny it's just like lacrosse both sides blind and drinking the kook-aid. If you cannot see that Trump sophmoric and that Hillary is s terrible role model for young girls you are all blind . Stand by your man even when he has been proven to have mistreated you time and again with a track record of mistreating women or the load mouth bully ,good luck to us all.

Well,Pull that lever for HRC with pride then...just make sure that if/when YOUR daughter gets anywhere near Hillbilly Bill, that you were warned...and don't worry about MY daughter...we explained to her what is going on in the news with knucklehead DT ..but also made sure that she knows that the other candidate is married to a RAPIST--of a woman not much older than her--and who was impeached and disbarred for life..so, go ahead, feel real proud of your new president, HRC.

This is not the place for this banter. It ends now.

Thank You.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank You.

Anytime.

Any idea when seedlings come out for Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any idea when seedlings come out for Suffolk

Seedings lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Any idea when seedlings come out for Suffolk

Life. Get one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Any idea when seedlings come out for Suffolk

Life. Get one.

Relax there chief. I knew the boys came out I was just wondering when the girls came out.

There are new divisions and alignments in Suffolk county this year. 4 divisions, I would imagine it is the same in Nassau and the rest of the state.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are new divisions and alignments in Suffolk county this year. 4 divisions, I would imagine it is the same in Nassau and the rest of the state.

Nassau has had a "power" conference for quite a few years now. Is that still in effect?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are new divisions and alignments in Suffolk county this year. 4 divisions, I would imagine it is the same in Nassau and the rest of the state.

Nassau has had a "power" conference for quite a few years now. Is that still in effect?

No power conference in Suffolk and in Nassau come the playoffs there is no power conference either . I think the new alignment has made the division even weaker in Suffolk because you used to have B, C playing against each other that will no longer be the case I believe.

Are there any indoor high school girls lax leagues during the winter ?

Yes. I know there is the Suffolk Indoor League at KK in Brentwood, starting 11/14. There is apparently also one in Nassau. Player should ask HS coach if they participate.

Where is Larry? hasn't been here in a couple days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Larry? hasn't been here in a couple days.

Larry has decided to take an extended vacation....is there something you need? You can email me if there is.

Is anyone doing any winter leagues. Or is anyone doing Hofstra tournaments with their varsity teams? Looking to see what's the best off season or pre season options

MIDDLE COUNTRY WILL WIN THIS YEAR FOR SURE!!! ANYONE WANT TO CHIME IN...THEY SHOULD OF WON LAST YEAR BUT CHOKED AND I KNOW THEY ARE HUNGRY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MIDDLE COUNTRY WILL WIN THIS YEAR FOR SURE!!! ANYONE WANT TO CHIME IN...THEY SHOULD OF WON LAST YEAR BUT CHOKED AND I KNOW THEY ARE HUNGRY

West islip beat them handily. They came in cocky and fell apart. Two years in a row. This may be their year

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

West islip did lose a lot of fire power. But they have some excellent players left and a lot of talent up and comin. He's a great coach. That will make the difference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

Exactly. A lot depends on what is coming down the pike. There are some teams that were loaded with seniors. On the flip side, there are some teams that had virtually none last season.

none of the Suffolk teams will beat Carle Place anyway!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

Exactly. A lot depends on what is coming down the pike. There are some teams that were loaded with seniors. On the flip side, there are some teams that had virtually none last season.

And some have strong freshman coming up!

Where does Huntington fall into the mix?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

West islip did lose a lot of fire power. But they have some excellent players left and a lot of talent up and comin. He's a great coach. That will make the difference

WI is a lax town with strong youth program leading in. Many, many players are well established and highly developed club players. A really bad coach can still F that up, but I would not go calling a coach great because it is not his development or doing. Give him a limited roster with limited talent and he will not look so good.

Well he only has 4-5 returning starters and lost one All American
I don't know him personally, so no strings attached herebut from what I have read and seen in the past, you are WI parent that was dying to be a coach and had no balls to do it. Watch WI team prove you wrong !!!!!!!!

Carol Rose is the best coach on the Island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carol Rose is the best coach on the Island

Yet she can't beat west eye!!! Even when you bought all the cheap blue stone rings and made your video saying "we out to states". Ya choked

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

Exactly. A lot depends on what is coming down the pike. There are some teams that were loaded with seniors. On the flip side, there are some teams that had virtually none last season.

And some have strong freshman coming up!

Do not count out Ward Melville. They have a lot of talent. This could be a very good season for them. West islip will be a shell of it's former self. They get very little help coming out of their juniors. Only one is ready to play. Rest will get minimal time. Sophomore going to Syracuse will fill some of the void but overall this will be a down year by West Islip standards

ward Melville has some very talented girls. They're problem lies with the coach. I know people argue that does not matter. If you have the talent but you don't put players on the field or in the right positions, you will fall short every time.

If you're from wm how do you know anything about wi players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ward Melville has some very talented girls. They're problem lies with the coach. I know people argue that does not matter. If you have the talent but you don't put players on the field or in the right positions, you will fall short every time.

.

Been hearing that every year. Then when season goes south, the parents come on here telling us they have the most talented players and should be winning, then proceed to throw the coach under the bus. Oh look, it's starting already!

He is most likely from west islip. My guess a daddy of an incoming freshman who wants to say older girls aren't that good. Just a hunch.

He's so obvious its painful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. I know there is the Suffolk Indoor League at KK in Brentwood, starting 11/14. There is apparently also one in Nassau. Player should ask HS coach if they participate.

Anyone know where in Nassau? I have an anxious team! Will take Suffolk contact number too please!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. I know there is the Suffolk Indoor League at KK in Brentwood, starting 11/14. There is apparently also one in Nassau. Player should ask HS coach if they participate.

Anyone know where in Nassau? I have an anxious team! Will take Suffolk contact number too please!

As a coach would you not have access to such information???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

Here we go. Although past performance does not equal future results...

! - West Islip. 35 - 8 over the past two seasons. They win in the playoffs and they win with less overall talent than some teams. They have a great coach who has helped the program develop a winning attitude. Don't count them out just yet.

2 - Middle Country. 34 - 3 over the past two seasons. Have had some highly touted players the past few years and have a very impressive record but have not been able to win the county championship. They will have another chance this year.

3 - Smithtown West. 28 -7 the past two seasons. They were very good last year. Almost pulled it out vs WI in the playoffs. A lot of talent. As good a chance as anyone.

4 - Northport. 27 - 9 the past two seasons. Coaching is very good. Some very good players and a fair amount of depth. Would be surprised if they are not in the mix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost a lot of fire power so its gonna be very tough for them
Smith West has a good shot and Northport.

1 Middle Country
2 Northport
3 Smithtown West
4 West Islip
5 Smithtown East

West Islip # 1 until someone beats them.
Middle Country # 2. Could this be their year?
Smithtown West # 3 will chalenge WI and MC for top spot.
Northport # 4 will be in the mix also.

It doesn't work that way in hs sports, kids graduate, its not like the pros where you keep the team together.

Here we go. Although past performance does not equal future results...

! - West Islip. 35 - 8 over the past two seasons. They win in the playoffs and they win with less overall talent than some teams. They have a great coach who has helped the program develop a winning attitude. Don't count them out just yet.

2 - Middle Country. 34 - 3 over the past two seasons. Have had some highly touted players the past few years and have a very impressive record but have not been able to win the county championship. They will have another chance this year.

3 - Smithtown West. 28 -7 the past two seasons. They were very good last year. Almost pulled it out vs WI in the playoffs. A lot of talent. As good a chance as anyone.

4 - Northport. 27 - 9 the past two seasons. Coaching is very good. Some very good players and a fair amount of depth. Would be surprised if they are not in the mix.

Mc for some reason just can't finish the job. This yr could be their yr. WI will have to definitely adjust this yr. the seniors now barely played last season as they weren't need with the powerful seniors they had. I believe they only have 4 returning starters, one being the goalie so that'll help

Thank you west islip dad!

I just saw that Bethpage is going to Maryland next April to play some MD powers. I see they play South River on 4/13. Anyone know who else they play on their trip?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you west islip dad!

I doubt a wi dad would give mc props lol

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We shall
See

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Have the athletes for sure...that is not questionable and not the problem at Ward Melville.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Have the athletes for sure...that is not questionable and not the problem at Ward Melville.

Team has trouble getting out of the first round of the playoffs every year. In years past they have lost to inferior teams for some reason. A number of players are on the field hockey team that is headed upstate. Maybe this will be beneficial come lacrosse season. Playoff nerves shouldn't bother them any more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Have the athletes for sure...that is not questionable and not the problem at Ward Melville.

Team has trouble getting out of the first round of the playoffs every year. In years past they have lost to inferior teams for some reason. A number of players are on the field hockey team that is headed upstate. Maybe this will be beneficial come lacrosse season. Playoff nerves shouldn't bother them any more.

Runs a little deeper than that, no playoff nerves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Have the athletes for sure...that is not questionable and not the problem at Ward Melville.

Yes, you WM parents tell us that every year. Maybe your high opinion of yourselves and low opinion of the team's you face has something to do with the "unexpected" outcome every year. Or just blame the coach, that works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Have the athletes for sure...that is not questionable and not the problem at Ward Melville.

Yes, you WM parents tell us that every year. Maybe your high opinion of yourselves and low opinion of the team's you face has something to do with the "unexpected" outcome every year. Or just blame the coach, that works.

I think they're insinuating the coach is the problem lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Have the athletes for sure...that is not questionable and not the problem at Ward Melville.

Yes, you WM parents tell us that every year. Maybe your high opinion of yourselves and low opinion of the team's you face has something to do with the "unexpected" outcome every year. Or just blame the coach, that works.

I think they're insinuating the coach is the problem lol

Not insinuating.

Heard Nassau is going back to ability based?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Nassau is going back to ability based?

Nassau has been ability based for at least the past few years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Nassau is going back to ability based?

What?

Anyone doing any fall tourneys or leagues

When does nlnassau post the 2017 HS divisions?

Does anyone have any insight about wantagh this year?Now that all thier top players are gone with the exception of one or two.

since you probably parent of Wantagh player please enlighten us all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Nassau is going back to ability based?

Nassau has been ability based for at least the past few years

Best example of this is cold spring harbor. They play all season with the best teams and then go back and win their size based divisional playoffs with their eyes closed. Playoff always have to go back to school size so you can advance to states

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any insight about wantagh this year?Now that all thier top players are gone with the exception of one or two.

Rumor has it, with all their top players gone, they folded the team...No need for anymore Wantaugh lax talk.

I heard the same thing. absolutely empty cupboard so they cancelled the program.

So wantagh is done! Just what I thought!!!

Wantagh is going the way of the dinosaur

Not really sure where you got your information from. but Wantagh DID NOT cancel or fold their girls lax team. They have 8 Seniors committed to D1 and D2 colleges and several younger girls committed to D1.

Jets, islanders,nets and wantagh

Heard your coach jumped ship after all your top players graduated.

You sure bro? 8? If true that's great, maybe they will see the field this year. Who's coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You sure bro? 8? If true that's great, maybe they will see the field this year. Who's coaching?

Not real familiar with the Wantaugh team, did they win a bunch of state titles with all those stars? Don't remember hearing about them in the state tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard your coach jumped ship after all your top players graduated.

Heard whole staff got fired.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You sure bro? 8? If true that's great, maybe they will see the field this year. Who's coaching?

Hearing they are considering either Jenny Levy or Cathy Reece.

Wantagh parents are such easy targets

No state championship yet for Wantagh... with move to Class C the path should be easier.
Won't have to beat Set or GC to get out of Nassau. CSH will now have some competition. Should make the C class more interesting to watch and less predictable. Wantagh graduated the best players they have had in a while, and CSH, not so much. Early predictions give CSH the edge to get out of Nassau.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No state championship yet for Wantagh... with move to Class C the path should be easier.
Won't have to beat Set or GC to get out of Nassau. CSH will now have some competition. Should make the C class more interesting to watch and less predictable. Wantagh graduated the best players they have had in a while, and CSH, not so much. Early predictions give CSH the edge to get out of Nassau.

Not from Wantagh but the B conference in Nassau is probably the second hardest league next to the IAMM in MD. Wantagh, GC, and Manhasset were all in the top 15 teams in the country for the past 2-3 years. They should be competitive in the C's with CSH, North Shore...etc. Unfortunately whoever gets out of Nassau C will more than likely have to Mt Sinai who looks to be on paper a very tough team

Have they posted the Divisions for Nassau High school for Spring 2017? If so, do you know where it is listed? Thank you

Former Wantagh hard [lacrosse] coach now at Plainedge. Both teams graduated their power players. Wantagh gets the short stick and now has the scream machine from Long beach, mommy and daddy's will be on the horn on a daily! So much ch fun already this season!

I see that Bethpage is headed down to Maryland to play at South River, who is a traditional power. Any ideas how that will turn out?

South river is decent, not a power high school lacrosse program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see that Bethpage is headed down to Maryland to play at South River, who is a traditional power. Any ideas how that will turn out?

Don't know South River dad.

Long Beach, North Shore, Southside and Plainedge with be on top of the pack this year. Wantagh, GC and Manhasset are toast

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see that Bethpage is headed down to Maryland to play at South River, who is a traditional power. Any ideas how that will turn out?

Don't know South River dad.

First, I am a former South River dad. Second, what's the problem with that? Third, why do you care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South river is decent, not a power high school lacrosse program.

Last year was a down year for them, but they played a very tough schedule. Traditionally, they are a very strong program though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see that Bethpage is headed down to Maryland to play at South River, who is a traditional power. Any ideas how that will turn out?

Don't know South River dad.

These short cute little quips are from our resident BOTC troll. He's in every thread posting nonsense to incite people. Just ignore him like the rest of the real world does.

Hi newer to lax parent with a 2021. We live in NJ/PA area. We are NOT in a hotbed area, but on A team of viable club. Looking for info on Showcases. I asked in the 2021 thread but too much bickering to notice my question. Particularly what showcases are worth it - we are not recruiting yet but getting feet wet. Also looking at participation as a way to have 1:1 against some great competition. NXT Summer Showcase, fl$, Brine, UA tryouts, Super Saturday Winter Blitz by Sinc Sports, etc. are these all money grabs ? Are any necessary ? ANY insight/opinions/wisdom very much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Beach, North Shore, Southside and Plainedge with be on top of the pack this year. Wantagh, GC and Manhasset are toast

Agree except Plainedge. Like Wantagh, their talent graduated, but they hired the Wantagh coach so they will finish in middle of pack. Shut down the one ball hog senior (which isn't hard) and they're done. North Shore will be the tram to beat. Anyone have Nassau conferences yet that they can post?

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

GC and Manhasset will still be the teams to beat. LB and Wantagh next two

On weak teams ball hogs hog more, not less. Very easy to defend. Deep teams win and coaches that force the ball to be shared always have the most success. Sadly, stat padding is embraced in our sport so look for more of the same in Newsday with the stat leaders playing on crappy teams in low divisions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

GC and Manhasset will still be the teams to beat. LB and Wantagh next two

Wantagh is now in C conference...no GC, Manhasset, or LB in playoffs. They will probably play in power conference during year though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

GC and Manhasset will still be the teams to beat. LB and Wantagh next two

Wantagh is now in C conference...no GC, Manhasset, or LB in playoffs. They will probably play in power conference during year though

Wantagh will have to face CSH. They lost some outstanding seniors but still have some players. CSH probably wins with their goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hi newer to lax parent with a 2021. We live in NJ/PA area. We are NOT in a hotbed area, but on A team of viable club. Looking for info on Showcases. I asked in the 2021 thread but too much bickering to notice my question. Particularly what showcases are worth it - we are not recruiting yet but getting feet wet. Also looking at participation as a way to have 1:1 against some great competition. NXT Summer Showcase, fl$, Brine, UA tryouts, Super Saturday Winter Blitz by Sinc Sports, etc. are these all money grabs ? Are any necessary ? ANY insight/opinions/wisdom very much appreciated.

If your daughter is playing on a top or very competitive club team that plays the other top teams, you really don;t need to do any of these showcases in our experience for your daughter to get recruited. If you do do a showcase, Under Armour or the Elite 120 are the best in our experience for exposure. When the time is right, reach out via emails to a number of schools that might be a fit academcially and athletically for your daughter and speak to the head of your club or club coach about these schools. If a match, these coaches will watch her play whihc is really how the process will start. If interested, they will tell her to attend their camp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

GC and Manhasset will still be the teams to beat. LB and Wantagh next two

Wantagh is now in C conference...no GC, Manhasset, or LB in playoffs. They will probably play in power conference during year though

Is that true? So now Cold Spring actually has some competition in the playoffs? GC v Sett in B, CSH v Wantagh in C

Sett should be huge favorite as they have the number one 2018 recruit in the country!!

Easy does it on the LB talk. Only talent is the goalie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

GC and Manhasset will still be the teams to beat. LB and Wantagh next two

Wantagh is now in C conference...no GC, Manhasset, or LB in playoffs. They will probably play in power conference during year though

Is that true? So now Cold Spring actually has some competition in the playoffs? GC v Sett in B, CSH v Wantagh in C

Do not forget about North Shore and maybe Plainedge and Seaford who are also in the C's. There are now (4) conferences in NYS

Suffolk predictions??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

GC and Manhasset will still be the teams to beat. LB and Wantagh next two

Wantagh is now in C conference...no GC, Manhasset, or LB in playoffs. They will probably play in power conference during year though

Is that true? So now Cold Spring actually has some competition in the playoffs? GC v Sett in B, CSH v Wantagh in C

Do not forget about North Shore and maybe Plainedge and Seaford who are also in the C's. There are now (4) conferences in NYS

Take it easy on Seaford and Plainedge. Both will have a top scorer in the county and both teams will be horrible in competitive games because its a team game. same story for theses two town year after year. Zero depth and zero team play. North Shore is always competitive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sett should be huge favorite as they have the number one 2018 recruit in the country!!

Which means nothing on many levels

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk predictions??

Class A is wide open. Many teams can win this class
Class B is all ESM
Class C is all Mt Sinai
Class D should be Mattituck's for the taking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk predictions??

Class A is wide open. Many teams can win this class
Class B is all ESM
Class C is all Mt Sinai
Class D should be Mattituck's for the taking.

D is going to be a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk predictions??

Class A is wide open. Many teams can win this class
Class B is all ESM
Class C is all Mt Sinai
Class D should be Mattituck's for the taking.

D is going to be a joke

Mattituck will play Babylon in the county finals for the next 10 years

Class D has 5 teams. Port Jeff had to forfeit almost all their games. Center Moriches and Mercy would lose to most JV teams. Babylon and Mattituck are the only teams worth playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk predictions??

Class A is wide open. Many teams can win this class
Class B is all ESM
Class C is all Mt Sinai
Class D should be Mattituck's for the taking.

Class A is not wide open. MC, WI, NP and SW. No clear cut favorite but most of the teams in the league have no chance.

BBP will be in the mix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk predictions??

Class A is wide open. Many teams can win this class
Class B is all ESM
Class C is all Mt Sinai
Class D should be Mattituck's for the taking.

Class A is not wide open. MC, WI, NP and SW. No clear cut favorite but most of the teams in the league have no chance.

BBP will be in the mix.

I think West Islip is lumped in there just on reputation. They will not be nearly as good as the past two seasons. Ward Melville has to be added to that bunch. 14 D1 commits between their seniors and juniors has to pan out eventually. BBP has 2 key players out with ACL tears. That's a big thing to overcome. Plus add in they lost a very good goalie and she wasnt replaced.

Don't count wi out. They are a tenacious group with a great coach. Ward Melville has the talent but cannot get out of their own way. Sw lost a couple of key players but they have some great young talent. Np too cocky

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't count wi out. They are a tenacious group with a great coach. Ward Melville has the talent but cannot get out of their own way. Sw lost a couple of key players but they have some great young talent. Np too cocky

Great coach can only do so much when the talent is lacking. Losing the senior going to Syracuse was huge. She held that team together. Senior going to Loyola doesn't have that same tenacity. Only 1 junior on the team had significant playing time on offense. Sophomore commit to Syracuse will be asked to do a lot this season. Junior goalie is solid in the net.

Agreed current senior while good, lacks her intensity. The current freshman at Jacksonville was a far better player on paper. They have a lot of work to do but a few will step into some big shoes. Everyone knows my Sinai is the best team on the island. Lots of team bonding off field makes for success on

Is she solid in the net???? Time will tell being they graduated a very strong defense. No returning starters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh beat Plainedge in the playoffs last year 19-5. So where is this talent Plainedge graduated you speak of? Reality check, Plainedge stunk! Played a soft schedule and when the played a good team they got beat like the no talent team they were.

GC and Manhasset will still be the teams to beat. LB and Wantagh next two

Wantagh is now in C conference...no GC, Manhasset, or LB in playoffs. They will probably play in power conference during year though

Is that true? So now Cold Spring actually has some competition in the playoffs? GC v Sett in B, CSH v Wantagh in C

Do not forget about North Shore and maybe Plainedge and Seaford who are also in the C's. There are now (4) conferences in NYS

Take it easy on Seaford and Plainedge. Both will have a top scorer in the county and both teams will be horrible in competitive games because its a team game. same story for theses two town year after year. Zero depth and zero team play. North Shore is always competitive

When will coaches learn?

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

My daughters playing . We're excited about it but it's 7 v 7 indoors . It would be nice to win but isn't necessarily indicative of what will happen in the spring,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

My daughters playing . We're excited about it but it's 7 v 7 indoors . It would be nice to win but isn't necessarily indicative of what will happen in the spring,

The 9th of what

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

Says the parent whose kid probably plays for yj.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

The best team in the country will be there(McDonogh). That's the team everyone should want to play just to see where you stack up. Yes 7 on 7 isn't like a real game but it will be fun none the less.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

The best team in the country will be there(McDonogh). That's the team everyone should want to play just to see where you stack up. Yes 7 on 7 isn't like a real game but it will be fun none the less.

Lots of great teams and many, many talented young ladies. It's still indoor, 7 v 7, no draw lacrosse, but I am looking forward to watching the girls play. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

really dope? you really know your stuff. Summit finished #4 in final IL rankings last season and went 24-1 with their one loss to St.. Stephens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

and last time I check (look at laxpower dope) Summit beat the two LI teams they played last year - Eastport South-Manor and Smithtown West. I know, I know no NJs teams can play with anybody on LI according to you. Again, nice tournament but no indoor 7-7 has anything to do with a national championship. Just in your crazy parent eyes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

Says the parent whose kid probably plays for yj.

Not only am I NOT a Y.J. parent, I don't even have a daughter attending the event. I just think it will put the truly best H.S. teams in one tournament. I personally don't see why you would even bring up the Yellow Jackets. First N.P. isn't invited, second C.R. has no vested interest in this event, and lastly one of the main competitors is Manhasset/ liberty a team she hates (and where my daughter plays) so whats your point with that? I state again just because your coaches/ school didn't have the foresight to send a team does not delegitimize the event, it just means your out this year and you have to deal with that. Personally I hope the event is a huge success, and that next year it happens either very late in the spring so that the seniors of that year can play, or late in the summer so that it csn happen on full fields. either way it comes down to the best players on the best teams playing against each other

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

and last time I check (look at laxpower dope) Summit beat the two LI teams they played last year - Eastport South-Manor and Smithtown West. I know, I know no NJs teams can play with anybody on LI according to you. Again, nice tournament but no indoor 7-7 has anything to do with a national championship. Just in your crazy parent eyes.

Lets be real about this, you jersey people are boasting about 2 wins but fail to mention that they lost to st. stephens who will be attending, but those are the only 3 games your top teams played all year outside of N.J. and its not like you beat either team handily you beat E.S.M. by 1 and smith west by 4. just for the record G.C. beat E.S.M. by 4 and Darien (#8) by 8. You Jersyites can call me a dope all you want, and some of your teams seem to be competitive, but until either you H.S. teams start playing a more competitive out of state schedule where they are beating top teams frequently, or at least put together a club team that is competitive with L.I and MD. we will never really know. Either way for you to try to delegitimize any event because YOU did not send your top team makes you the dope. Lets be honest until someone beats Mcdonogh they are the best, but what we know for sure is that it will not be a team from NJ this year. Send a team or shut up

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

Westwood doesn't have a coach and will is not the top team this year. And the mass people are arguing that the 2019s and the 2020s are top teams in their age group which is accurate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

Says the parent whose kid probably plays for yj.

Not only am I NOT a Y.J. parent, I don't even have a daughter attending the event. I just think it will put the truly best H.S. teams in one tournament. I personally don't see why you would even bring up the Yellow Jackets. First N.P. isn't invited, second C.R. has no vested interest in this event, and lastly one of the main competitors is Manhasset/ liberty a team she hates (and where my daughter plays) so whats your point with that? I state again just because your coaches/ school didn't have the foresight to send a team does not delegitimize the event, it just means your out this year and you have to deal with that. Personally I hope the event is a huge success, and that next year it happens either very late in the spring so that the seniors of that year can play, or late in the summer so that it csn happen on full fields. either way it comes down to the best players on the best teams playing against each other

Okay, no worries mate. But, you have to admit that winning a meaningless 7v7 indoor "national championship" is something that would be important to a typical yj parent.

What' name is McDonough playing under?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is nobody talking about the IL indoor event on the weekend of the 9th. The top 32 teams as ranked by IL squaring off in what is the closest thing to a girls national championship as we have ever seen. Am I the only one that thinks this. Old develop into something big.

Nice tournament and good idea, but clearly not a national championship. It is indoor and not all top teams are playing (see Summit, Ridgewood, others). Still a good idea.

ok, serious? because Jersey teams arent there? They took the final rankings from the 2016 season and invited all those teams to bring there best players to a tournament close to Jersey. If the schools, coaches or players decided not to attend thats a forfeit of there ranking spot. It seems to me the organizers allowed those teams that gave up, or couldn't find enough commited players to then take players from other schools to fill in rosters. And lets be frank about this, it's not like the N.J. teams are really going to beat the likes of Mc Donogh, Manhasset, or Garden City. Walton (Ga.) St Anthony's (NY) and Westwood (Mass) are also no going but that is on each school so because your region doesn't send a team doesn't make it "not real" the only thing "not real" is your reigons commitment to finding out who is the best. I mean look at Mass. elite complaining how they should be considered top 5 club but not sending there only top ranked team to this event to prove it. And Mass parents , don't complain about the distance, Novato California is sending a team. Most of the top H.S. teams are sending teams if yours isn't you don't get to complain you should have sent a team. This silly sentament that its only 7v7 is also ridicules wether you put your best 12 or best 7 on the field makes little difference you still play your best so in the end it my best against your best. These girls are top athletes and will play to win, this should be fun

Westwood doesn't have a coach and will is not the top team this year. And the mass people are arguing that the 2019s and the 2020s are top teams in their age group which is accurate

this post proves that Mass elite is not a top 5 club

What is the name of this tournament and date? any help would be appreciated thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What' name is McDonough playing under?

Orange Crush I think. Orange is one of their team colors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Since when did the choice of schools that a young player makes determine the "quality" of a club lax program? The reasons a player chooses a school could go well beyond just lacrosse. Did you ever think about that? Your comment sounds like something a yj parent would say, where your whole meager being is determined by which college your little bee goes to. Your opinion on which school another kid chooses is irrelevant. So go back to the hive and tell the queen bee what you learned today. Jeez...you people are mentally hilarious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Seing as you are obviesoly a flaming idiot I will slow it down for you. she only practices 2 age groups at a time so that she can take an active role in all teams along with each teams mail coaches, she attends every practice unless her H.S team is at states, something C.R. does not have to worry about. when she says that she is holding a clinic it is D.G on the field coaching , not some daddy or flunky doing it under her name, I can't believe for a second that a dolt like you has any Idea IF she is having a hard time doing anything because you obviesoly ars carring the Y.J. line. Your right, having kids commit to Penn Marquette USC Cornell is a real dip in college selection you dolt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Since when did the choice of schools that a young player makes determine the "quality" of a club lax program? The reasons a player chooses a school could go well beyond just lacrosse. Did you ever think about that? Your comment sounds like something a yj parent would say, where your whole meager being is determined by which college your little bee goes to. Your opinion on which school another kid chooses is irrelevant. So go back to the hive and tell the queen bee what you learned today. Jeez...you people are mentally hilarious.

LIU Brooklyn?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the name of this tournament and date? any help would be appreciated thank you

This coming weekend, Jan 6,7,8. Right outside Lancaster, Pa at the Spooky Nook Sports Complex.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What' name is McDonough playing under?

They actually have two teams playing. If you follow IL on Instagram, they have been listing the teams and a short bio of each for the past couple of weeks. My daughter is playing in the middle school division but we are really looking forward to watching the high school games during down time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Seing as you are obviesoly a flaming idiot I will slow it down for you. she only practices 2 age groups at a time so that she can take an active role in all teams along with each teams mail coaches, she attends every practice unless her H.S team is at states, something C.R. does not have to worry about. when she says that she is holding a clinic it is D.G on the field coaching , not some daddy or flunky doing it under her name, I can't believe for a second that a dolt like you has any Idea IF she is having a hard time doing anything because you obviesoly ars carring the Y.J. line. Your right, having kids commit to Penn Marquette USC Cornell is a real dip in college selection you dolt

Honestly commit list is a joke compared to other top programs. Not trying to be negative, just real. Number of kids in each class to top academic schools and lacrosse programs is small compared to other programs. Agree DG is a great coach and also agree she has a great connection with UPenn coach as both went to William & Mary and the girls who have gone/are going to UPenn are top notch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Seing as you are obviesoly a flaming idiot I will slow it down for you. she only practices 2 age groups at a time so that she can take an active role in all teams along with each teams mail coaches, she attends every practice unless her H.S team is at states, something C.R. does not have to worry about. when she says that she is holding a clinic it is D.G on the field coaching , not some daddy or flunky doing it under her name, I can't believe for a second that a dolt like you has any Idea IF she is having a hard time doing anything because you obviesoly ars carring the Y.J. line. Your right, having kids commit to Penn Marquette USC Cornell is a real dip in college selection you dolt

You were doing such a good job and then you took the bait and showed just how ignorant you are. You assume its YJ parents going after you when in reality you have no idea. Here is where you fall short, first the tournament you are hyping made the mistake of letting in all star teams, so essentially has become another pseudo travel/all star teams and teams made up of only actual high school teams have little chance. If DG is such a great coach and the YJ coaching is so horrible then why do the YJ teams consistently beat Liberty.The only explanation is the level of talent on those hideous liberty teams must be the equivalent of lower level travel teams, not saying a lot about the liberty players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Since when did the choice of schools that a young player makes determine the "quality" of a club lax program? The reasons a player chooses a school could go well beyond just lacrosse. Did you ever think about that? Your comment sounds like something a yj parent would say, where your whole meager being is determined by which college your little bee goes to. Your opinion on which school another kid chooses is irrelevant. So go back to the hive and tell the queen bee what you learned today. Jeez...you people are mentally hilarious.

LIU Brooklyn?

Didn't 2 girls from YJ/ MC commit to liu Brooklyn

Can someone please tell me what tournament these high school teams are playing in on the ninth? Where and when etc. thank you DX a Y

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please tell me what tournament these high school teams are playing in on the ninth? Where and when etc. thank you DX a Y

The McDonough coach organized a 7v7 indoor tournament in PA. He invited the top 32 teams from IL final rankings last spring. Some are going and others are not but it is a good way to get girls started for upcoming year. Indoor is no reflection on outdoor play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please tell me what tournament these high school teams are playing in on the ninth? Where and when etc. thank you DX a Y

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Since when did the choice of schools that a young player makes determine the "quality" of a club lax program? The reasons a player chooses a school could go well beyond just lacrosse. Did you ever think about that? Your comment sounds like something a yj parent would say, where your whole meager being is determined by which college your little bee goes to. Your opinion on which school another kid chooses is irrelevant. So go back to the hive and tell the queen bee what you learned today. Jeez...you people are mentally hilarious.

LIU Brooklyn?

Didn't 2 girls from YJ/ MC commit to liu Brooklyn

Its one of the bottom 5 D1 lax schools out there but it is D1 and if you play club lacrosse parents feel their kid must get an athletic offer regardless of where it is and how bad the lax and education is. If this is the best you are offered go D3

I hate your line about "if this is the best you are offered go D3". Who the [lacrosse] cares what "best" means to a kid, especially one that isn't yours? From a yj perspective, LIU-Brooklyn is below their pompous standards. But, for someone else that's a normal person, LIU_Brooklyn may be just the right fit. Comments like yours remind me of B Altig, the director (definitely NOT a coach) of Md United. She basically kicked girls from some of her teams because they WANTED to play at a D3 school because they LIKED THE SCHOOL. By the way, they went to a neighboring club, went to their D3 school of choice, had good careers and at least one of them graduated with a prestigious degree and the leading scorer record (or close to it). If more of you "people" would change your priorities about where kids choose to play college lax we'd all be happier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please tell me what tournament these high school teams are playing in on the ninth? Where and when etc. thank you DX a Y

The McDonough coach organized a 7v7 indoor tournament in PA. He invited the top 32 teams from IL final rankings last spring. Some are going and others are not but it is a good way to get girls started for upcoming year. Indoor is no reflection on outdoor play

The McDonough coached organized the UA150 Showcase which was supposed to have been played that weekend at the Spooky Nook facility but due to the changes made to the Recruiting Calendar last spring he was stuck with the deposit/down payment as no D1 college coaches were allowed to attend the showcase. So to recoup his money he created the 7v7 tournament. Brilliant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please tell me what tournament these high school teams are playing in on the ninth? Where and when etc. thank you DX a Y

The McDonough coach organized a 7v7 indoor tournament in PA. He invited the top 32 teams from IL final rankings last spring. Some are going and others are not but it is a good way to get girls started for upcoming year. Indoor is no reflection on outdoor play

The McDonough coached organized the UA150 Showcase which was supposed to have been played that weekend at the Spooky Nook facility but due to the changes made to the Recruiting Calendar last spring he was stuck with the deposit/down payment as no D1 college coaches were allowed to attend the showcase. So to recoup his money he created the 7v7 tournament. Brilliant.

So, now that it's a 7v7 tournament, are college coaches allowed to attend or not?

When and where is the tournament being held? Thank you DCC NYS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When and where is the tournament being held? Thank you DCC NYS

Outside Lancaster, PA in Manheim. It's at the Spooky Nook Sports Complex. The tournament is this weekend, 1/7 and 8.

How did we go from Nassau/Suffolk predictions to this tournament nobody care about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did we go from Nassau/Suffolk predictions to this tournament nobody care about

Because it's more interesting. Nobody cares about Nassau/Suffolk.

Does Nassau group their teams in A-D divisions like Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Nassau group their teams in A-D divisions like Suffolk?

when they go to he playoffs. they have a power conference during season for top 10 perceived teams

Can someone post the Nassau Conferences this year? Would like to see the new changes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did we go from Nassau/Suffolk predictions to this tournament nobody care about

Because it's more interesting. Nobody cares about Nassau/Suffolk.

Winner!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a complete joke. You act like Liberty is one of the top teams. Stop embarrassing yourself. I guess you daughter couldn't make YJs.

ok lets get this straight, I never said Liberty was a top team, nor do I think they are the top club. but since you stuck your head up I will tell you what I do think. I think Manhasset has turned into one of the perennial high school powerhouses coached by one of the best coaches in the business, Northport not so much, Carol Rose is excellent at spotting talent that other people cultivate, but can cultivate none of her own. Every now and then an exceptional player happens to develop within N.P. despite Carol Rose. Though I think she is a painfully average coach, she is an exceptional business woman. She has all of you Yellow Jacket parents duped into thinking that somehow without her your daughter will not be recruited, when in reality if you were smart enough to think beyond your own need to better than the Jonses, you would be knocking down D.G's door for your daughter to be taught by the best coach. So, though you may get to say that your daughter plays for the best club on the 3rd, 4th, or 5th team, coached by a parent that never played the game while Carol is too busy directing her empire from a far to wory about coaching your daughter, my daughter is being coached by one of the most successful H.S. coaches that was also a D1 coach, and one of the best woman players to ever play the game, and believe me, she does coach every one of hazave made a Y.J team, heck everyone that tries out makes a Y.J. team, My daughter wanted to be coached by the best, thats why she chose Liberty.

If this program is so great why are they struggling to fill rosters on B teams? Also, how is it possible for one person to coach all these teams? Sorry but not buying what you are saying. Quickly looking at their commits, I would also say not very impressive and the caliber of schools is dropping.

Seing as you are obviesoly a flaming idiot I will slow it down for you. she only practices 2 age groups at a time so that she can take an active role in all teams along with each teams mail coaches, she attends every practice unless her H.S team is at states, something C.R. does not have to worry about. when she says that she is holding a clinic it is D.G on the field coaching , not some daddy or flunky doing it under her name, I can't believe for a second that a dolt like you has any Idea IF she is having a hard time doing anything because you obviesoly ars carring the Y.J. line. Your right, having kids commit to Penn Marquette USC Cornell is a real dip in college selection you dolt

You were doing such a good job and then you took the bait and showed just how ignorant you are. You assume its YJ parents going after you when in reality you have no idea. Here is where you fall short, first the tournament you are hyping made the mistake of letting in all star teams, so essentially has become another pseudo travel/all star teams and teams made up of only actual high school teams have little chance. If DG is such a great coach and the YJ coaching is so horrible then why do the YJ teams consistently beat Liberty.The only explanation is the level of talent on those hideous liberty teams must be the equivalent of lower level travel teams, not saying a lot about the liberty players.

we were talking about high school teams it is only YJ parents that divert the conversation. Taking sold HSBC teams into consideration you truly see who the better coach is, by your own words DG is able to take a team of horrible players (seeing as most set players also play Liberty) and coach those girls into the county, island and state tourney year after year, where as CR and NP can't seem to garner the same type of respect or success . The only reason I could conceive for this is because even though, according to you, CR has better players and 'set players aren't nearly as good, CR is not a good coach, or at least not as good as DG. Who has a lot more success with "horrible players"

Who would win a cage match between CR and DG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who would win a cage match between CR and DG?

C'mon no one beats Dusty Rhodes!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who would win a cage match between CR and DG?

Hands down CR. He's a beast!

DG only really takes care of her set girls when it comes to college. She could be the biggest whiner(baby)yelling at refs in HS and Club when she doesn't get the call her way. Just because she was supposedly a good player 30 years ago doesn't make you a good coach. When she was playing basically no one played the game. Her program is mediocre at best. Glad your daughter is one of the set chosen few. Many people have seen her act multiple times and it's pathetic.

"partners" allowed as Tag-team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG only really takes care of her set girls when it comes to college. She could be the biggest whiner(baby)yelling at refs in HS and Club when she doesn't get the call her way. Just because she was supposedly a good player 30 years ago doesn't make you a good coach. When she was playing basically no one played the game. Her program is mediocre at best. Glad your daughter is one of the set chosen few. Many people have seen her act multiple times and it's pathetic.

My daughter played for DG, is committed to an excellent school, got great athletic money, and we're not from Manhasset. That's such a bunch of bs. Guess your facts are exactly accurate. As far as yelling at the refs, I've seen it happen but it's not often and usually because a player is at risk of being injured due to bad/non call. Have you seen some of the other LI club director's behavior at tournaments and hs games? There are some who are real nasty characters to say the least.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who would win a cage match between CR and DG?

Hands down CR. He's a beast!

hahahahahahaha..."He's a beast!"

Now that would be worth the entry fee!

Any updates on this wilt tournament in penn today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any updates on this wilt tournament in penn today?

Wantagh took a beating, painfully obvious they graduated their talent. No chemistry and not in a tough bracket. Manhasset looks good, SWR weak defense. Lots of talent and energy. Too bad this wasn't an open invitation

One page back, Larry Miller has the links for tourney machine in his post.You can get all the scores through there.

I'm seeing some really high scores. Defense??? Goalies???

Set is 0-2 ... that's looking good?

how is GC looking,is the BC commit on this team?

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

I'm seeing some really high scores. Defense??? Goalies???

7 on 7 pick up right out of the net. Defense means nothing

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

I'm seeing some really high scores. Defense??? Goalies???

It literally is a run & gun bubble. Wantagh will definitely struggle this year, its ugly. Middle Country very polished.

Why did you post that swr has a weak D before they even played a game?

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

I'm seeing some really high scores. Defense??? Goalies???

Indoor, 7v7 and no draw after every goal - always high scoring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

I'm seeing some really high scores. Defense??? Goalies???

It literally is a run & gun bubble. Wantagh will definitely struggle this year, its ugly. Middle Country very polished.

Middle country is in the wrong bracket. 66 goals in two games? They should be playing better competiton.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

I'm seeing some really high scores. Defense??? Goalies???

Indoor, 7v7 and no draw after every goal - always high scoring.

nobody cares!!!

Yes, so are the commits from USC, Harvard, West Point, Loyola, Marist, Stanford, Michigan, SBU, Quinnipiac and Villanova. GC as strong as ever.

Did any teams invited not go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did any teams invited not go?

Yes. ESM was one team that didn't go

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did any teams invited not go?

Yes. ESM was one team that didn't go

West islip did not either.

Safe trip home Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did any teams invited not go?

Yes. ESM was one team that didn't go

West islip did not either.

I'd say they were the smart ones. Seems like a waste of a weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did any teams invited not go?

Yes. ESM was one team that didn't go

West islip did not either.

Tournament is a waste for full teams. Most HS teams are 25-30 players, to go play a 7v7 is not fun if you are the coach. These indoor tournaments are best fit for little throw together teams where you can bring one or two subs. My daughters HS and Travel team does these indoor leagues, what a waste of time and money. 20 something girls show up to split time for a 1 hour game, actually less, think it is 2 25 min halfs. Coaches would be better only invite half the team every other week to at least make it worth the trip. So again this indoor 7v7 stuff is just not a good option for a full outdoor teams and really doesn't showcase the "team" very accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did any teams invited not go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did any teams invited not go?

summit, Ridgewood, and oak knoll the theee best teams in NJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Safe trip home Wantagh

Thanks

McDonogh vs Garden City in the finals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh vs Garden City in the finals

Orange Crush 10, Garden City 8.

Where is Orange Crush from?

This tournament is just another event to deepen the roster divides on most teams. Lots of coaches left the bottom of their roster home so they could play their studs. That's the problem with todays game its not about the team anymore until you get to college. All about me and the cash

That's called competition ! If your not good enough to earn a spot then hit the wall and get better!

what college teams are you referring too. Look at the stats of any college program and you have your starters and a few kids off the bench who get the majority of the playing time. Then you have the other half of the team with little to no playing time. That's sports, coaches want to win, So stop fooling yourself, It doesn't change in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This tournament is just another event to deepen the roster divides on most teams. Lots of coaches left the bottom of their roster home so they could play their studs. That's the problem with todays game its not about the team anymore until you get to college. All about me and the cash

That's unfortunate if your coach did that. Rosters for schools are smaller this time of the year since the 16s gave graduated and the freshmen haven't yet tried out . My daughters team brought everyone who wanted to go which was just about everyone.

Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This tournament is just another event to deepen the roster divides on most teams. Lots of coaches left the bottom of their roster home so they could play their studs. That's the problem with todays game its not about the team anymore until you get to college. All about me and the cash

Actually quite a few teams had 15 to 20 girls at this tournament. Based on the format a longer bench helped. With only two draws the whole game it was non stop fast breaks. There were so many scores in the mid to high 20's per team. If you showed up with 2 to 3 subs you struggled.

Also, if you were a team that graduated a lot of seniors and had a light junior class you might struggle to get a large number of girls. Not all the teams were coached by their HS coach so JV and incoming freshman may not have been invited because they are not known as well as the older girls. Just a thought

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's called competition ! If your not good enough to earn a spot then hit the wall and get better!

ahhh, that didn't take long!

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

Top players? My god their in trouble

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

...says the asshat parent who never lifts a finger to do anything

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top players? My god their in trouble

It's funny...I looked at the games his past weekend and besides GC who went to the final there looks like a lot of LI teams that went 1 - 2. Maybe they sent their JV as well??

The real sad part is you are talking about young girls...so pathetic. If you seem to know who these parents are who coached, why don't you reach out to them. With the coaching vacancy just filled at Wantagh, it sounds like these parents at least tried to get the girls going for the upcoming season. Again, what have you done?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

No way was that Wantagh's top team they are better than that.

can this really be called The indoor "National Championship"
if all the top teams weren't there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can this really be called The indoor "National Championship"
if all the top teams weren't there?

Sure they can just ask the Yellow Jackets they claim they are naty champs every year and they play games with a garbage can in the other cage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top players? My god their in trouble

It's funny...I looked at the games his past weekend and besides GC who went to the final there looks like a lot of LI teams that went 1 - 2. Maybe they sent their JV as well??

The real sad part is you are talking about young girls...so pathetic. If you seem to know who these parents are who coached, why don't you reach out to them. With the coaching vacancy just filled at Wantagh, it sounds like these parents at least tried to get the girls going for the upcoming season. Again, what have you done?

They tried to get "the girls going" or their girls going....don't pump your chest about doing it for your town, you did it for your daughters only...how'd that work out for ya?!! At least GC does it to make the town better not just a select group of girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

I'm the parent that picked the team, you know who i am, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. You have my number, we can meet before or after the meeting to discuss the bashing of my wantagh varsity girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

I'm the parent that picked the team, you know who i am, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. You have my number, we can meet before or after the meeting to discuss the bashing of my wantagh varsity girls.

haha....you are that small little snowflake man.......I can send my wife to take of you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

I'm the parent that picked the team, you know who i am, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. You have my number, we can meet before or after the meeting to discuss the bashing of my wantagh varsity girls.

This is perfect...again, you know who coached this past weekend and they have responded in the previous post. Hopefully you will be at the meeting tomorrow night and this topic can be put to rest and the girls can look forward to spring season.

Then we don't have to post on BOC how terrible the team is. The expectations for this spring are obviously very low based upon your assessments. They are a JV team, no chemistry and certainly some no talent handpicked "bombs"...way to insult a fine group of young ladies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Orange Crush from?

McDonogh school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

I'm the parent that picked the team, you know who i am, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. You have my number, we can meet before or after the meeting to discuss the bashing of my wantagh varsity girls.

haha....you are that small little snowflake man.......I can send my wife to take of you

What does that even mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top players? My god their in trouble

It's funny...I looked at the games his past weekend and besides GC who went to the final there looks like a lot of LI teams that went 1 - 2. Maybe they sent their JV as well??

The real sad part is you are talking about young girls...so pathetic. If you seem to know who these parents are who coached, why don't you reach out to them. With the coaching vacancy just filled at Wantagh, it sounds like these parents at least tried to get the girls going for the upcoming season. Again, what have you done?

They tried to get "the girls going" or their girls going....don't pump your chest about doing it for your town, you did it for your daughters only...how'd that work out for ya?!! At least GC does it to make the town better not just a select group of girls.

Obviously not groom gc where everyone does it for "their girls"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

I'm the parent that picked the team, you know who i am, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. You have my number, we can meet before or after the meeting to discuss the bashing of my wantagh varsity girls.

"My Wantagh varsity girls" ??? There in lies the problem with high school sports and lacrosse. What is the story with last years Wantagh coach? Was she run out of town?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top players? My god their in trouble

It's funny...I looked at the games his past weekend and besides GC who went to the final there looks like a lot of LI teams that went 1 - 2. Maybe they sent their JV as well??

The real sad part is you are talking about young girls...so pathetic. If you seem to know who these parents are who coached, why don't you reach out to them. With the coaching vacancy just filled at Wantagh, it sounds like these parents at least tried to get the girls going for the upcoming season. Again, what have you done?

Not sure about a lot of the LI teams going 1-2. It looks like Middle Country, SWR, and CSH all went 2-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top players? My god their in trouble

It's funny...I looked at the games his past weekend and besides GC who went to the final there looks like a lot of LI teams that went 1 - 2. Maybe they sent their JV as well??

The real sad part is you are talking about young girls...so pathetic. If you seem to know who these parents are who coached, why don't you reach out to them. With the coaching vacancy just filled at Wantagh, it sounds like these parents at least tried to get the girls going for the upcoming season. Again, what have you done?

Not sure about a lot of the LI teams going 1-2. It looks like Middle Country, SWR, and CSH all went 2-1

I did not say all but beside Wantagh I see Mattituck, BBP, Port Washington, Manhasset, and Smihtown West. That is 6 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

I'm the parent that picked the team, you know who i am, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. You have my number, we can meet before or after the meeting to discuss the bashing of my wantagh varsity girls.

"My Wantagh varsity girls" ??? There in lies the problem with high school sports and lacrosse. What is the story with last years Wantagh coach? Was she run out of town?

No she actually got a teaching job at Plainedge and believe she is going to be an assistant lax coach at the their HS

Why would the coach be run out of town? She didn't take that shot while Wantagh was in a stall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Was that wantagh's JV this weekend, because that definitely didn't resemble wantagh's varsity from years past.

A couple of parents who think their girls are the bomb handpicked the "top" varsity players to play and apparently it didn't work out as planned. Humble pie.

I'm the parent that picked the team, you know who i am, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow night. You have my number, we can meet before or after the meeting to discuss the bashing of my wantagh varsity girls.

"My Wantagh varsity girls" ??? There in lies the problem with high school sports and lacrosse. What is the story with last years Wantagh coach? Was she run out of town?

No she actually got a teaching job at Plainedge and believe she is going to be an assistant lax coach at the their HS

Plainedge advertised that they needed a HC why wasn't it given to her if she works in the district? Plainedge has never had the success of Wantagh.

You people are pathetic. A parent tries to do something to help the program while there is a vacancy at the coaching position. I am sure you knew about this event prior to it occurring so if you had a problem you easily could have reached out to those "filling in" as coaches and expressed your concerns. Instead you come onto this site anonymously to bash the kids that played, the parents that gave their time, and just be a horrible example to your kids about how to handle things as an adult. You are the prime example of why people never want to get involved as volunteers in anything, its just not worth dealing with the drama queens.

Wrong the Parents that gave their time didn't "care" about those girls. He picked and chose who he wanted to from his "inner circle". He never gave all of the girls the option to play over the weekend - girls who were on the varsity team the prior year. Instead he took an 8th grader who he's friends with the family. And then he short changed those girls because there wasn't enough players. You (and yes we know who you are) did a disservice to these girls (that other towns are bashing as no talent) when they are a talented group and aren't selfish players. They haven't had a chance to prove themselves because of prior pathetic coaching. And shame on the Athletic Director who is useless for allowing it. Hopefully this new coach has the balls to tell you parents to sit down and shut up and let him coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong the Parents that gave their time didn't "care" about those girls. He picked and chose who he wanted to from his "inner circle". He never gave all of the girls the option to play over the weekend - girls who were on the varsity team the prior year. Instead he took an 8th grader who he's friends with the family. And then he short changed those girls because there wasn't enough players. You (and yes we know who you are) did a disservice to these girls (that other towns are bashing as no talent) when they are a talented group and aren't selfish players. They haven't had a chance to prove themselves because of prior pathetic coaching. And shame on the Athletic Director who is useless for allowing it. Hopefully this new coach has the balls to tell you parents to sit down and shut up and let him coach.

Was it dads of kids that play club? Sounds like the F&F program over at YJ's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong the Parents that gave their time didn't "care" about those girls. He picked and chose who he wanted to from his "inner circle". He never gave all of the girls the option to play over the weekend - girls who were on the varsity team the prior year. Instead he took an 8th grader who he's friends with the family. And then he short changed those girls because there wasn't enough players. You (and yes we know who you are) did a disservice to these girls (that other towns are bashing as no talent) when they are a talented group and aren't selfish players. They haven't had a chance to prove themselves because of prior pathetic coaching. And shame on the Athletic Director who is useless for allowing it. Hopefully this new coach has the balls to tell you parents to sit down and shut up and let him coach.

Perfect example of the cowardly poster. Seems you have an issue with every coach and its no wonder as you decide to just anonymously bash them instead of being an adult and having a conversation with them. You are clearly one of those disgusting parents who do nothing to help build a program and just complain about those who do.

Why would you even entertain this moron !!! Obviously they have serious issues and they probably discuss this at the dinner table. I feel bad for the kid. What these parents did for the off season after being left high and dry by their Coach is a great thing. Wantagh was and always will be right there in the end. If they're the underdog, even better.

Other LI teams went 1-2 in last weekend's tournament� Wantagh is the only community that is up in arms over the performance and still chirping about it 3 days later. It's too bad Wantagh's lax community isn't rallying around the girls that are still on the team from last year and building up the ones that are coming up � rather than embarrassing each other and discouraging others. Every school has a down year(s), the key to success is to re-build and compete, not denigrate each other. Good luck to all of the girls this year!

Here's just a little info on the whole early recruiting process.
My 2016 daughter was fairly highly recruited: 8 schools from Hofstra in the north to University of Florida in the south. She committed to a D1 during the summer after sophomore year. She was very excited about her choice and so were we. She moved into school in early September last year and all was going well...fall ball, school, etc. Played very well and started some of the games during fall. All of a sudden,yesterday she informs me that she does not want to go back. I asked how long she's felt this way and she said since she moved. Wow! So, she called her coach yesterday and went and visited with her today. The coach told her that she was a big part of the teams upcoming season and hated to lose her. They talked for several hours, and some of the upper classmen talked to her, all to no avail. In the end she chose to leave and signed her release paperwork. Now she's on her way back home. Here's what I thought: That my daughter would never do this. She's very responsible, great student, takes care of her business, works hard, etc. She loves working out and didn't think the practices were too hard. She ran her mile run test in 6:15. She has lots of friends and got along with her room mate very well. But, ultimately, she didn't "feel right" at the school. Just "off". She's going to go the local community college, which is always highly ranked, and play there and hopefully continue at another 4-year school that is more for her. Her former team treated her wonderfully, she loved the coaches, liked the school. It just didn't work. So, my advice to any parents and players is to choose your school wisely. Talk about all of the negatives as much as the positives. Talk about the "what ifs". And, most of all communicate a lot. Good luck to all going through the process now. It can be exciting, pressure packed and fun all at the same time. And, do not discount a D2 or D3 school. It's not all about D1. Good Luck to all.

It happens a lot. It's the biggest decision they must make in their life up to that point. Unfortunately they are making these decisions way to young with the early recruitment. Definitely no guarantees. Thanks for that story and I'm sure she'll be fine. This story will get you thinking too.
http://uslaxmagazine.com/high_schoo...r_student_how_curtis_zappala_walked_away

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It happens a lot. It's the biggest decision they must make in their life up to that point. Unfortunately they are making these decisions way to young with the early recruitment. Definitely no guarantees. Thanks for that story and I'm sure she'll be fine. This story will get you thinking too.
http://uslaxmagazine.com/high_schoo...r_student_how_curtis_zappala_walked_away

You're welcome. I've been involved with the game for a long time, and my kids situation is not unique. But, there are lots of people who don't want to think it will be their kid. I didn't think it would be my kid. She was 1st team all-county on two different lists. Great/very good player. But, somewhere along the way her feelings about the school she chose changed. Only she knows what it is. And yes, I think she will be fine, at school and on the field. Now, just gotta find the next place. This time she'll probably make a better choice for her.

Good info. Thanks for sharing. Our daughter committed this summer as an in coming HS Soph . I like her choice of school but I still worry about it as things can change with 3 mores years of HS ahead of her. They are still kids.

West eye is in big trouble. Heard they only have 3 field players returning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It happens a lot. It's the biggest decision they must make in their life up to that point. Unfortunately they are making these decisions way to young with the early recruitment. Definitely no guarantees. Thanks for that story and I'm sure she'll be fine. This story will get you thinking too.
http://uslaxmagazine.com/high_schoo...r_student_how_curtis_zappala_walked_away

You're welcome. I've been involved with the game for a long time, and my kids situation is not unique. But, there are lots of people who don't want to think it will be their kid. I didn't think it would be my kid. She was 1st team all-county on two different lists. Great/very good player. But, somewhere along the way her feelings about the school she chose changed. Only she knows what it is. And yes, I think she will be fine, at school and on the field. Now, just gotta find the next place. This time she'll probably make a better choice for her.

We have club friends in 8th and 9th grade begging to verbal. The same kids carrying a low grades in school. That never took a regents or the SAT and frankly are too immature just like my kid to make this big decision but the parents keep pushing these little kids to take the plunge. They aren't studs. They aren't picking the best of schools but they are picking. What's the rush?

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending what side you're on, until you sign that paper,you can always decommit. It happens more today than ever because of early commits. If she were to kill it this year and next you'd be surprised to see how many schools would try to contact her and "find " money to make it happen. Times have changed, and this early recruiting goes both ways. At that point the only thing that matters is your daughter and her future. The other thing is, the way this business is today you're lucky if the Head Coach is still there 3 or 4 years from now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's just a little info on the whole early recruiting process.
My 2016 daughter was fairly highly recruited: 8 schools from Hofstra in the north to University of Florida in the south. She committed to a D1 during the summer after sophomore year. She was very excited about her choice and so were we. She moved into school in early September last year and all was going well...fall ball, school, etc. Played very well and started some of the games during fall. All of a sudden,yesterday she informs me that she does not want to go back. I asked how long she's felt this way and she said since she moved. Wow! So, she called her coach yesterday and went and visited with her today. The coach told her that she was a big part of the teams upcoming season and hated to lose her. They talked for several hours, and some of the upper classmen talked to her, all to no avail. In the end she chose to leave and signed her release paperwork. Now she's on her way back home. Here's what I thought: That my daughter would never do this. She's very responsible, great student, takes care of her business, works hard, etc. She loves working out and didn't think the practices were too hard. She ran her mile run test in 6:15. She has lots of friends and got along with her room mate very well. But, ultimately, she didn't "feel right" at the school. Just "off". She's going to go the local community college, which is always highly ranked, and play there and hopefully continue at another 4-year school that is more for her. Her former team treated her wonderfully, she loved the coaches, liked the school. It just didn't work. So, my advice to any parents and players is to choose your school wisely. Talk about all of the negatives as much as the positives. Talk about the "what ifs". And, most of all communicate a lot. Good luck to all going through the process now. It can be exciting, pressure packed and fun all at the same time. And, do not discount a D2 or D3 school. It's not all about D1. Good Luck to all.

Is she looking to stay in NY? Marcy and NYIT have great programs, gorgeous schools and just far away to be back home pasta Sundays

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's just a little info on the whole early recruiting process.
My 2016 daughter was fairly highly recruited: 8 schools from Hofstra in the north to University of Florida in the south. She committed to a D1 during the summer after sophomore year. She was very excited about her choice and so were we. She moved into school in early September last year and all was going well...fall ball, school, etc. Played very well and started some of the games during fall. All of a sudden,yesterday she informs me that she does not want to go back. I asked how long she's felt this way and she said since she moved. Wow! So, she called her coach yesterday and went and visited with her today. The coach told her that she was a big part of the teams upcoming season and hated to lose her. They talked for several hours, and some of the upper classmen talked to her, all to no avail. In the end she chose to leave and signed her release paperwork. Now she's on her way back home. Here's what I thought: That my daughter would never do this. She's very responsible, great student, takes care of her business, works hard, etc. She loves working out and didn't think the practices were too hard. She ran her mile run test in 6:15. She has lots of friends and got along with her room mate very well. But, ultimately, she didn't "feel right" at the school. Just "off". She's going to go the local community college, which is always highly ranked, and play there and hopefully continue at another 4-year school that is more for her. Her former team treated her wonderfully, she loved the coaches, liked the school. It just didn't work. So, my advice to any parents and players is to choose your school wisely. Talk about all of the negatives as much as the positives. Talk about the "what ifs". And, most of all communicate a lot. Good luck to all going through the process now. It can be exciting, pressure packed and fun all at the same time. And, do not discount a D2 or D3 school. It's not all about D1. Good Luck to all.

That is great advice! Your daughter is not the only one! I have a son in a similar situation with basically the same story. Top recruit, starting on a top D1 program, but just isn't happy. People need to be careful what they wish for!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's just a little info on the whole early recruiting process.
My 2016 daughter was fairly highly recruited: 8 schools from Hofstra in the north to University of Florida in the south. She committed to a D1 during the summer after sophomore year. She was very excited about her choice and so were we. She moved into school in early September last year and all was going well...fall ball, school, etc. Played very well and started some of the games during fall. All of a sudden,yesterday she informs me that she does not want to go back. I asked how long she's felt this way and she said since she moved. Wow! So, she called her coach yesterday and went and visited with her today. The coach told her that she was a big part of the teams upcoming season and hated to lose her. They talked for several hours, and some of the upper classmen talked to her, all to no avail. In the end she chose to leave and signed her release paperwork. Now she's on her way back home. Here's what I thought: That my daughter would never do this. She's very responsible, great student, takes care of her business, works hard, etc. She loves working out and didn't think the practices were too hard. She ran her mile run test in 6:15. She has lots of friends and got along with her room mate very well. But, ultimately, she didn't "feel right" at the school. Just "off". She's going to go the local community college, which is always highly ranked, and play there and hopefully continue at another 4-year school that is more for her. Her former team treated her wonderfully, she loved the coaches, liked the school. It just didn't work. So, my advice to any parents and players is to choose your school wisely. Talk about all of the negatives as much as the positives. Talk about the "what ifs". And, most of all communicate a lot. Good luck to all going through the process now. It can be exciting, pressure packed and fun all at the same time. And, do not discount a D2 or D3 school. It's not all about D1. Good Luck to all.

That is great advice! Your daughter is not the only one! I have a son in a similar situation with basically the same story. Top recruit, starting on a top D1 program, but just isn't happy. People need to be careful what they wish for!

Thank you, and that is why I put it out there. First, I would hope that a family in the middle of the recruiting process would read and heed at least a little of the info. Agree with your last sentence: Be careful what you wish for. Second, I know that this is partly due to the early recruiting trend. I'm not going to say all of our situation is due to early recruiting, but some of it has to be. She started to be recruited during the summer after her freshman year. It was almost non-stop for a year and I think it started to wear on her. She visited eight schools, but once she started getting offers, I think she felt pressure to go SOMEWHERE. So, like I mentioned above, ask the hard questions of your kid. Talk about the "what ifs". Have a Plan B. She's a smart kid, and I know academically she'll be fine. And,she still wants to play somewhere, which makes ol' dad happy (we spent a lot of money over the years) LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's just a little info on the whole early recruiting process.
My 2016 daughter was fairly highly recruited: 8 schools from Hofstra in the north to University of Florida in the south. She committed to a D1 during the summer after sophomore year. She was very excited about her choice and so were we. She moved into school in early September last year and all was going well...fall ball, school, etc. Played very well and started some of the games during fall. All of a sudden,yesterday she informs me that she does not want to go back. I asked how long she's felt this way and she said since she moved. Wow! So, she called her coach yesterday and went and visited with her today. The coach told her that she was a big part of the teams upcoming season and hated to lose her. They talked for several hours, and some of the upper classmen talked to her, all to no avail. In the end she chose to leave and signed her release paperwork. Now she's on her way back home. Here's what I thought: That my daughter would never do this. She's very responsible, great student, takes care of her business, works hard, etc. She loves working out and didn't think the practices were too hard. She ran her mile run test in 6:15. She has lots of friends and got along with her room mate very well. But, ultimately, she didn't "feel right" at the school. Just "off". She's going to go the local community college, which is always highly ranked, and play there and hopefully continue at another 4-year school that is more for her. Her former team treated her wonderfully, she loved the coaches, liked the school. It just didn't work. So, my advice to any parents and players is to choose your school wisely. Talk about all of the negatives as much as the positives. Talk about the "what ifs". And, most of all communicate a lot. Good luck to all going through the process now. It can be exciting, pressure packed and fun all at the same time. And, do not discount a D2 or D3 school. It's not all about D1. Good Luck to all.

That is great advice! Your daughter is not the only one! I have a son in a similar situation with basically the same story. Top recruit, starting on a top D1 program, but just isn't happy. People need to be careful what they wish for!

This happens with athletes and non-athletes. Kids change schools all the time, As with just about everything else in life it is a learning experience. View it as a positive. I am very happy for your daughter as she appears to have the courage to evaluate, make a decision and take action. Those traits will serve her well in life. The smartest people and the best leaders are the ones who are willing to adjust their sails and change course when necessary. Some say that only the strong survive and that it is survival of the fittest when in reality it is the one who is willing to change and adapt that will not only survive but thrive. It is less about your current situation or what has happened to you that impacts your future, it is all about the decisions you make and the action you take moving forward that will define who you are.

All the best to your daughter, please tell he to make her own way in the world. As we all know it is not a sprint and their will be plenty of bumps and curves in the road. She has a bright future with unlimited potential and opportunity.

That holds true for your son as well. It holds true for all of our kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending what side you're on, until you sign that paper,you can always decommit. It happens more today than ever because of early commits. If she were to kill it this year and next you'd be surprised to see how many schools would try to contact her and "find " money to make it happen. Times have changed, and this early recruiting goes both ways. At that point the only thing that matters is your daughter and her future. The other thing is, the way this business is today you're lucky if the Head Coach is still there 3 or 4 years from now.

I am watching many of the very early commits from the last few years get bypassed by others on their own team. That is a risk and fear of Coaches going all in on girls in 8th or used to be 9th grade. Could it be the girls lose the drive and focus in the later HS years that are seemingly meaningless once they commit? Or some just peaked early? The girls at the current recruiting age, look at a group at the same playing level, some are completely maxed out on potential, some are just getting going. How are the coaches to know? Some studs remain studs and stay ahead, some seem to be flatlining.

8th and 9th grade girls haven't taken a regents or an SAT yet. Most of the early commits we know aren't great students either. They are picking schools without knowing what they want to study in school. I guess when they get closer they will see what majors the school offers. I think its safe to say any 8th grader that picks a college is picking the college for lacrosse reasons *** but most they are picking some big name good schools that they wouldn't haven't gotten in to without lax so I guess that's the point right??.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th and 9th grade girls haven't taken a regents or an SAT yet. Most of the early commits we know aren't great students either. They are picking schools without knowing what they want to study in school. I guess when they get closer they will see what majors the school offers. I think its safe to say any 8th grader that picks a college is picking the college for lacrosse reasons *** but most they are picking some big name good schools that they wouldn't haven't gotten in to without lax so I guess that's the point right??.

How on earth would you know if the girls "aren't great students"? Do you know each of them personally so you can make such a blanket statement?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending what side you're on, until you sign that paper,you can always decommit. It happens more today than ever because of early commits. If she were to kill it this year and next you'd be surprised to see how many schools would try to contact her and "find " money to make it happen. Times have changed, and this early recruiting goes both ways. At that point the only thing that matters is your daughter and her future. The other thing is, the way this business is today you're lucky if the Head Coach is still there 3 or 4 years from now.

I am watching many of the very early commits from the last few years get bypassed by others on their own team. That is a risk and fear of Coaches going all in on girls in 8th or used to be 9th grade. Could it be the girls lose the drive and focus in the later HS years that are seemingly meaningless once they commit? Or some just peaked early? The girls at the current recruiting age, look at a group at the same playing level, some are completely maxed out on potential, some are just getting going. How are the coaches to know? Some studs remain studs and stay ahead, some seem to be flatlining.

Let me guess your kid is a late bloomer. What a loser you are.

and how would you be the authority on who has or hasn't maxed out? once again we have a know nothing yapper who just regurgitates stupid stuff the other moms spew in the stands and sidelines.

I see kids topping out and others catching up? As well. What's makes you an expert? Some kids look real good against their peers in 8 /9 th and then here's come a train and all of sudden their not that good! As a former player and having seen now at the club level it's reality. Some kids mature later. Go ahead make your comment I.e.: I'm jealous because my kid isn't recruited yet , etc... Nice try we heard it all before. Oh and btw she's all set and she works hard to stay ahead on the field and in the classroom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see kids topping out and others catching up? As well. What's makes you an expert? Some kids look real good against their peers in 8 /9 th and then here's come a train and all of sudden their not that good! As a former player and having seen now at the club level it's reality. Some kids mature later. Go ahead make your comment I.e.: I'm jealous because my kid isn't recruited yet , etc... Nice try we heard it all before. Oh and btw she's all set and she works hard to stay ahead on the field and in the classroom.

I see kids like yours get passed by on the lacrosse field and in the classroom all the time. You said it yourself she works hard so my guess not really naturally gifted in either area the next thing you know the naturally gifted kids turn it up a notch and your kid gets run over by the train.You really are a nonsense regurgitating loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see kids topping out and others catching up? As well. What's makes you an expert? Some kids look real good against their peers in 8 /9 th and then here's come a train and all of sudden their not that good! As a former player and having seen now at the club level it's reality. Some kids mature later. Go ahead make your comment I.e.: I'm jealous because my kid isn't recruited yet , etc... Nice try we heard it all before. Oh and btw she's all set and she works hard to stay ahead on the field and in the classroom.

I see kids like yours get passed by on the lacrosse field and in the classroom all the time. You said it yourself she works hard so my guess not really naturally gifted in either area the next thing you know the naturally gifted kids turn it up a notch and your kid gets run over by the train.You really are a nonsense regurgitating loser.

Talent will get you there; hard work will keep you there.

All the talent in the world isn't going to help if you lack the work ethic.

Predictabled response from a ignorant cad!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see kids topping out and others catching up? As well. What's makes you an expert? Some kids look real good against their peers in 8 /9 th and then here's come a train and all of sudden their not that good! As a former player and having seen now at the club level it's reality. Some kids mature later. Go ahead make your comment I.e.: I'm jealous because my kid isn't recruited yet , etc... Nice try we heard it all before. Oh and btw she's all set and she works hard to stay ahead on the field and in the classroom.

I see kids like yours get passed by on the lacrosse field and in the classroom all the time. You said it yourself she works hard so my guess not really naturally gifted in either area the next thing you know the naturally gifted kids turn it up a notch and your kid gets run over by the train.You really are a nonsense regurgitating loser.

Why so bitter? Ever think you are why lacrosse has the worst sidelines in sport? Ever think comments like this make it impossible for the rest of us to root for your kid? I hope she is a great player but don't throw shat at everyone else. Stay humble my friend its over before you know it

We all saw that response coming. Very predictable. I sense the frustration you must be experiencing as your kid is being left in the dust. Daddy had visions of college lacrosse for his kid but you burned her out. There's always college club ball! Now go by your for EZ State U CLUB LAX! Lol

If you don't continue to work hard on and off the field then how will you continue to get better? All the athletic talent in world will get you there but you still have work at your craft!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We all saw that response coming. Very predictable. I sense the frustration you must be experiencing as your kid is being left in the dust. Daddy had visions of college lacrosse for his kid but you burned her out. There's always college club ball! Now go by your for EZ State U CLUB LAX! Lol

What a loser [lacrosse]. You don't get it, do you? My educated guess is that you're a yj puke, whose whole ego is wrapped up in the success or failure of your kid. I'll tell you what I've seen over my lifetime, in football and lacrosse...Athletically gifted kids blowing past less-gifted kids at an early age. BUT, in the early teens, kids like yours become burned out by pushy, douchey, asshat parents like you and they slowly lose interest which impacts their performance on the field. Unfortunately, they're too ashamed to say anything to you because you'll flip out and all of LI will hear you berate your little bee. Then, bah-do-boom,, bah-da-bing...the hard working kids, who still enjoy playing, have now caught and PASSED your burned-out kid. It happens all the time, every year, every sport. The next thing ya know, your kid is playing club at Easystreet U, and you're trying to apologize to your asshat "friends" and cr why your little bee "chose" to play club. It's gonna happen. Better get those grades up and be prepared.

What an angry guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We all saw that response coming. Very predictable. I sense the frustration you must be experiencing as your kid is being left in the dust. Daddy had visions of college lacrosse for his kid but you burned her out. There's always college club ball! Now go by your for EZ State U CLUB LAX! Lol

What a loser [lacrosse]. You don't get it, do you? My educated guess is that you're a yj puke, whose whole ego is wrapped up in the success or failure of your kid. I'll tell you what I've seen over my lifetime, in football and lacrosse...Athletically gifted kids blowing past less-gifted kids at an early age. BUT, in the early teens, kids like yours become burned out by pushy, douchey, asshat parents like you and they slowly lose interest which impacts their performance on the field. Unfortunately, they're too ashamed to say anything to you because you'll flip out and all of LI will hear you berate your little bee. Then, bah-do-boom,, bah-da-bing...the hard working kids, who still enjoy playing, have now caught and PASSED your burned-out kid. It happens all the time, every year, every sport. The next thing ya know, your kid is playing club at Easystreet U, and you're trying to apologize to your asshat "friends" and cr why your little bee "chose" to play club. It's gonna happen. Better get those grades up and be prepared.

It's comical what a loser you are.,Yes that US team vs Florida was full of those burned out YJ players you speak of while your hard working kid is hoping that her hard work gets her D2 coach to notice her . LOSER

It's getting comical! Your in full meltdown ! Did you have to,cancel your pre ordered UNC gear ? Because Sally is really not cut out for the college Level. I told there is still a club team!

[quote=Anonymous
Why so bitter? Ever think you are why lacrosse has the worst sidelines in sport? Ever think comments like this make it impossible for the rest of us to root for your kid? I hope she is a great player but don't throw shat at everyone else. Stay humble my friend its over before you know it [/quote]

YJ parents never think its them, and if they did, they don't care anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We all saw that response coming. Very predictable. I sense the frustration you must be experiencing as your kid is being left in the dust. Daddy had visions of college lacrosse for his kid but you burned her out. There's always college club ball! Now go by your for EZ State U CLUB LAX! Lol

What a loser [lacrosse]. You don't get it, do you? My educated guess is that you're a yj puke, whose whole ego is wrapped up in the success or failure of your kid. I'll tell you what I've seen over my lifetime, in football and lacrosse...Athletically gifted kids blowing past less-gifted kids at an early age. BUT, in the early teens, kids like yours become burned out by pushy, douchey, asshat parents like you and they slowly lose interest which impacts their performance on the field. Unfortunately, they're too ashamed to say anything to you because you'll flip out and all of LI will hear you berate your little bee. Then, bah-do-boom,, bah-da-bing...the hard working kids, who still enjoy playing, have now caught and PASSED your burned-out kid. It happens all the time, every year, every sport. The next thing ya know, your kid is playing club at Easystreet U, and you're trying to apologize to your asshat "friends" and cr why your little bee "chose" to play club. It's gonna happen. Better get those grades up and be prepared.

It's comical what a loser you are.,Yes that US team vs Florida was full of those burned out YJ players you speak of while your hard working kid is hoping that her hard work gets her D2 coach to notice her . LOSER

Have to be honest, I just came across this conversation. But your response is kind of douchey as well. Not as much as the OP, but douchey. You're hinting that D2 is a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We all saw that response coming. Very predictable. I sense the frustration you must be experiencing as your kid is being left in the dust. Daddy had visions of college lacrosse for his kid but you burned her out. There's always college club ball! Now go by your for EZ State U CLUB LAX! Lol

What a loser [lacrosse]. You don't get it, do you? My educated guess is that you're a yj puke, whose whole ego is wrapped up in the success or failure of your kid. I'll tell you what I've seen over my lifetime, in football and lacrosse...Athletically gifted kids blowing past less-gifted kids at an early age. BUT, in the early teens, kids like yours become burned out by pushy, douchey, asshat parents like you and they slowly lose interest which impacts their performance on the field. Unfortunately, they're too ashamed to say anything to you because you'll flip out and all of LI will hear you berate your little bee. Then, bah-do-boom,, bah-da-bing...the hard working kids, who still enjoy playing, have now caught and PASSED your burned-out kid. It happens all the time, every year, every sport. The next thing ya know, your kid is playing club at Easystreet U, and you're trying to apologize to your asshat "friends" and cr why your little bee "chose" to play club. It's gonna happen. Better get those grades up and be prepared.

It's comical what a loser you are.,Yes that US team vs Florida was full of those burned out YJ players you speak of while your hard working kid is hoping that her hard work gets her D2 coach to notice her . LOSER

Have to be honest, I just came across this conversation. But your response is kind of douchey as well. Not as much as the OP, but douchey. You're hinting that D2 is a joke.

What's the saying about the shoe fitting?

You cannot change the minds of crazy parent living thru their remarkable student athlete. Any sane person knows there are many great opportunities to play lacrosse at D1, D2 and or D3. All have top, middle and lower levels or athletics and or academics. It's nuts how the crazies [lacrosse] all over any school not an Ivy and or a top D1 lax team. Again, no post will change their minds. It's part of what makes them crazy. To the parents new to the recruiting process, figure out what school your daughter is interested in and go visit. Good luck and have fun with it. It should not be grueling as some make it out to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You cannot change the minds of crazy parent living thru their remarkable student athlete. Any sane person knows there are many great opportunities to play lacrosse at D1, D2 and or D3. All have top, middle and lower levels or athletics and or academics. It's nuts how the crazies [lacrosse] all over any school not an Ivy and or a top D1 lax team. Again, no post will change their minds. It's part of what makes them crazy. To the parents new to the recruiting process, figure out what school your daughter is interested in and go visit. Good luck and have fun with it. It should not be grueling as some make it out to be.

So help me out w the recruiting thing. Please post the great academic D2 options for my daughter. Thx.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You cannot change the minds of crazy parent living thru their remarkable student athlete. Any sane person knows there are many great opportunities to play lacrosse at D1, D2 and or D3. All have top, middle and lower levels or athletics and or academics. It's nuts how the crazies [lacrosse] all over any school not an Ivy and or a top D1 lax team. Again, no post will change their minds. It's part of what makes them crazy. To the parents new to the recruiting process, figure out what school your daughter is interested in and go visit. Good luck and have fun with it. It should not be grueling as some make it out to be.

So help me out w the recruiting thing. Please post the great academic D2 options for my daughter. Thx.

Connectlax.com has a nice, relatively easy-to-use, searchable database for schools. Try that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So help me out w the recruiting thing. Please post the great academic D2 options for my daughter. Thx.

Google is your friend, bud. Collegeboard, US News, plenty of lists out there to help you narrow it down. Or were you just trolling because you can't believe there are good D2 schools out there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You cannot change the minds of crazy parent living thru their remarkable student athlete. Any sane person knows there are many great opportunities to play lacrosse at D1, D2 and or D3. All have top, middle and lower levels or athletics and or academics. It's nuts how the crazies [lacrosse] all over any school not an Ivy and or a top D1 lax team. Again, no post will change their minds. It's part of what makes them crazy. To the parents new to the recruiting process, figure out what school your daughter is interested in and go visit. Good luck and have fun with it. It should not be grueling as some make it out to be.

So help me out w the recruiting thing. Please post the great academic D2 options for my daughter. Thx.

Did your daughter get cut from a D2 school? It's ok friend, college is a different level, but it's time to move on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You cannot change the minds of crazy parent living thru their remarkable student athlete. Any sane person knows there are many great opportunities to play lacrosse at D1, D2 and or D3. All have top, middle and lower levels or athletics and or academics. It's nuts how the crazies [lacrosse] all over any school not an Ivy and or a top D1 lax team. Again, no post will change their minds. It's part of what makes them crazy. To the parents new to the recruiting process, figure out what school your daughter is interested in and go visit. Good luck and have fun with it. It should not be grueling as some make it out to be.

You are right but after reading this thread every kid on here is going to a top 5 lax school or ivy. Give me a break! Way more kids going to Quinnipiac or Fairfield or Wagner then top 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You cannot change the minds of crazy parent living thru their remarkable student athlete. Any sane person knows there are many great opportunities to play lacrosse at D1, D2 and or D3. All have top, middle and lower levels or athletics and or academics. It's nuts how the crazies [lacrosse] all over any school not an Ivy and or a top D1 lax team. Again, no post will change their minds. It's part of what makes them crazy. To the parents new to the recruiting process, figure out what school your daughter is interested in and go visit. Good luck and have fun with it. It should not be grueling as some make it out to be.

You are right but after reading this thread every kid on here is going to a top 5 lax school or ivy. Give me a break! Way more kids going to Quinnipiac or Fairfield or Wagner then top 5

or davidson richmond vandy georgetown virginia BC michigan william and Mary colgate lehigh Cal ... etc ... There are so many great academic schools that play D1 that aren't top 5 lax or an ivy ... you people always reduce it to that. Once again, it comes down to grades. Now if ur kid doesn't have them, D2 is a great fit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So help me out w the recruiting thing. Please post the great academic D2 options for my daughter. Thx.

Google is your friend, bud. Collegeboard, US News, plenty of lists out there to help you narrow it down. Or were you just trolling because you can't believe there are good D2 schools out there?

There aren't.

In the end it has to be a match for,your kid! Hopefully they have choices

Sounds like it's you're first kid your trying to recruit because you're clueless.

For the 1st timers who verbal early, although most verbals hold, with the insane amount of coaching movement here is an article about UConn football that broke today-

Randy Edsall was hired as UConn�s head coach on Dec. 28. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill) Recruiting can be a shrewd business.
Ryan Dickens thought he had his college decision wrapped up. The linebacker from Raritan High School in New Jersey committed to UConn back in June and was ready to sign with the Huskies in a few weeks, but found out Sunday night that the school no longer had a spot for him in its 2017 recruiting class.

Dickens was offered by Bob Diaco and UConn�s previous coaching staff. But Diaco was fired in late December and the school brought in Randy Edsall, who led the program from 1999-2010 before bolting for Maryland (where he was fired in 2015).

Dickens told NJ.com he received a phone call from Edsall on Sunday night. Edsall delivered bad news they would not honor the scholarship offered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like it's you're first kid your trying to recruit because you're clueless.

Who r u talking to?

Well its that time again,
what teams will be in the mix
Hear are my thoughts
MC
Northport
Smith west
west islip
Smith east
Wardmelville

please write your thoughts

MC
Northport
WI
Melville

final four

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MC
Northport
WI
Melville

final four

What about B, C & D?

The guy knocking D2 schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MC
Northport
WI
Melville

final four

Smithtown west replaces wm in this list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MC
Northport
WI
Melville

final four

Smithtown west replaces wm in this list

agree

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You cannot change the minds of crazy parent living thru their remarkable student athlete. Any sane person knows there are many great opportunities to play lacrosse at D1, D2 and or D3. All have top, middle and lower levels or athletics and or academics. It's nuts how the crazies [lacrosse] all over any school not an Ivy and or a top D1 lax team. Again, no post will change their minds. It's part of what makes them crazy. To the parents new to the recruiting process, figure out what school your daughter is interested in and go visit. Good luck and have fun with it. It should not be grueling as some make it out to be.

So help me out w the recruiting thing. Please post the great academic D2 options for my daughter. Thx.

If you'r a member of Lacrosse Recruits, they have a great search tool - by division, academic competitiveness, distance, etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

Did anyone get an invite to the Inside Lacrosse Academy in July for committed 2017's & 2018's?

Any thoughts on this? A money maker as usual?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

You cannot be serious about checking credentials on a generally anonymous forum.

How about when he gave up home field advantage in a playoff game in order to play on a turf field? And guess what, BBP lost to the team whose home field was turf.

BBP has the worst facility in Suffolk. I'm surprised games are allowed to be played there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP has the worst facility in Suffolk. I'm surprised games are allowed to be played there.

Not anymore, they got turf.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

You cannot be serious about checking credentials on a generally anonymous forum.

How about when he gave up home field advantage in a playoff game in order to play on a turf field? And guess what, BBP lost to the team whose home field was turf.

Aw come on...cut the guy some slack. He's a soccer coach doing the best he can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

You cannot be serious about checking credentials on a generally anonymous forum.

How about when he gave up home field advantage in a playoff game in order to play on a turf field? And guess what, BBP lost to the team whose home field was turf.

Aw come on...cut the guy some slack. He's a soccer coach doing the best he can.

Pretty sure home-field advantage crosses all sports. It's not a concept unique to lacrosse.

MC WILL WIN

That's what you said last year

[quote=Anonymous]That's what you said last year [/quote] 😂

Why does my kid play against Newfield and Centereach in Basketball and Soccer but MC for Lax?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That's what you said last year [/quote]

😂 [/quote]

Glad you said it. I was thinking it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does my kid play against Newfield and Centereach in Basketball and Soccer but MC for Lax?

Because they would be two mediocre teams instead of one good one. Still don't understand how they get away with this when they have enough girls for both schools to field separate teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does my kid play against Newfield and Centereach in Basketball and Soccer but MC for Lax?

Because they would be two mediocre teams instead of one good one. Still don't understand how they get away with this when they have enough girls for both schools to field separate teams

Who cares? Let them stay together. Don't you want your daughter to compete against strong teams? The league week (all of the HS leagues are weak). At least in Nassau they have the Power Conference. In Suffolk A teams can win 10 games in their sleep if they have a few girls who can pass and catch.
I would like to see The Sachems's and Smithtown's combine again Maybe even allow Ward Melville to absorb Port Jeff and Mount Sinai so they could compete as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does my kid play against Newfield and Centereach in Basketball and Soccer but MC for Lax?

Because they would be two mediocre teams instead of one good one. Still don't understand how they get away with this when they have enough girls for both schools to field separate teams

Who cares? Let them stay together. Don't you want your daughter to compete against strong teams? The league week (all of the HS leagues are weak). At least in Nassau they have the Power Conference. In Suffolk A teams can win 10 games in their sleep if they have a few girls who can pass and catch.
I would like to see The Sachems's and Smithtown's combine again Maybe even allow Ward Melville to absorb Port Jeff and Mount Sinai so they could compete as well.

I bet the kids that get cut care.

Wow your pompous. What magical team does your faughter play for?

Hi, is the maximum exposure rising sophs camp good? The colleges attending aren't listed yet. Wondering if anyone has gone in the past.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hi, is the maximum exposure rising sophs camp good? The colleges attending aren't listed yet. Wondering if anyone has gone in the past.
Thanks!

Yes ... GO

Thanks!

League game schedules have been posted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

League game schedules have been posted

Suffolk schedules have been posted on Section XI for a while.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

You cannot be serious about checking credentials on a generally anonymous forum.

How about when he gave up home field advantage in a playoff game in order to play on a turf field? And guess what, BBP lost to the team whose home field was turf.

How about he brought a dream team stacked with talent to the county finals and lost? Again. Made almost zero in game adjustments. Maybe he does a great job at practice and is good with the kids but he should stay off the sidelines. He was out of his league playing against AB and it showed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does my kid play against Newfield and Centereach in Basketball and Soccer but MC for Lax?

Because they would be two mediocre teams instead of one good one. Still don't understand how they get away with this when they have enough girls for both schools to field separate teams

Who cares? Let them stay together. Don't you want your daughter to compete against strong teams? The league week (all of the HS leagues are weak). At least in Nassau they have the Power Conference. In Suffolk A teams can win 10 games in their sleep if they have a few girls who can pass and catch.
I would like to see The Sachems's and Smithtown's combine again Maybe even allow Ward Melville to absorb Port Jeff and Mount Sinai so they could compete as well.

What a stupid statement. It is HS sports you represent you school. If circumstances warrant a merger due to lack of participation you merge or fold the program. You don't build a super team.

You want a power conference fine I get it but the one team is BS. Some may say upstate does it to. Yeah some are like regional schools. But MIddle country and Lakeland/Panas is a joke. You have two separate facilities and the participation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does my kid play against Newfield and Centereach in Basketball and Soccer but MC for Lax?

Because they would be two mediocre teams instead of one good one. Still don't understand how they get away with this when they have enough girls for both schools to field separate teams

Who cares? Let them stay together. Don't you want your daughter to compete against strong teams? The league week (all of the HS leagues are weak). At least in Nassau they have the Power Conference. In Suffolk A teams can win 10 games in their sleep if they have a few girls who can pass and catch.
I would like to see The Sachems's and Smithtown's combine again Maybe even allow Ward Melville to absorb Port Jeff and Mount Sinai so they could compete as well.

What a stupid statement. It is HS sports you represent you school. If circumstances warrant a merger due to lack of participation you merge or fold the program. You don't build a super team.

You want a power conference fine I get it but the one team is BS. Some may say upstate does it to. Yeah some are like regional schools. But MIddle country and Lakeland/Panas is a joke. You have two separate facilities and the participation.

Quiet down geesh another whining club lacrosse parents shocker

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

You cannot be serious about checking credentials on a generally anonymous forum.

How about when he gave up home field advantage in a playoff game in order to play on a turf field? And guess what, BBP lost to the team whose home field was turf.

How about he brought a dream team stacked with talent to the county finals and lost? Again. Made almost zero in game adjustments. Maybe he does a great job at practice and is good with the kids but he should stay off the sidelines. He was out of his league playing against AB and it showed.

"Dream Team"??? I guess your a disgruntled parent. There was 1 stud and some other talent. Stop with the Dream Team stuff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

You cannot be serious about checking credentials on a generally anonymous forum.

How about when he gave up home field advantage in a playoff game in order to play on a turf field? And guess what, BBP lost to the team whose home field was turf.

How about he brought a dream team stacked with talent to the county finals and lost? Again. Made almost zero in game adjustments. Maybe he does a great job at practice and is good with the kids but he should stay off the sidelines. He was out of his league playing against AB and it showed.

"Dream Team"??? I guess your a disgruntled parent. There was 1 stud and some other talent. Stop with the Dream Team stuff

The stud carded herself out of the game. Not sure if the coach coached on that one or not. But his strategies always seem to have the parts add up to less than the whole.

Our coach won't even force the primadonas to pass at our weekend practices. Get ready for another season of 3 good girls and the rest of the team recruited from gym class. When will these coaches learn?

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Hoping for change? I don't really know. Don't forget, HS sports is very much about the social aspect for the kids, and belonging.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our coach won't even force the primadonas to pass at our weekend practices. Get ready for another season of 3 good girls and the rest of the team recruited from gym class. When will these coaches learn?

We have been living it for years with this sport in school. Parents hijack the booster clubs for access. Coaches want to run it like the summer circuit but when you don't have the players you have to change the strategy. Its groundhog day all over again. It can start with just a simple pass of the ball. NObody wants to share they all want to be in Newspaper

so you think that referring to kids as no pass prima donnas is one of the positive aspects? please don't tell me you don't call the so called prima donnas (stars) by that name to your kid. honestly..belonging?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our coach won't even force the primadonas to pass at our weekend practices. Get ready for another season of 3 good girls and the rest of the team recruited from gym class. When will these coaches learn?

We have been living it for years with this sport in school. Parents hijack the booster clubs for access. Coaches want to run it like the summer circuit but when you don't have the players you have to change the strategy. Its groundhog day all over again. It can start with just a simple pass of the ball. NObody wants to share they all want to be in Newspaper

Please tell us what towns you are referring too. I find it hard to believe that this problem exists in so many schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our coach won't even force the primadonas to pass at our weekend practices. Get ready for another season of 3 good girls and the rest of the team recruited from gym class. When will these coaches learn?

We have been living it for years with this sport in school. Parents hijack the booster clubs for access. Coaches want to run it like the summer circuit but when you don't have the players you have to change the strategy. Its groundhog day all over again. It can start with just a simple pass of the ball. NObody wants to share they all want to be in Newspaper

Please tell us what towns you are referring too. I find it hard to believe that this problem exists in so many schools.

Pick one! Do you somehow think that HS lax is any different then PAL? Only difference is Newsday. Same kids and parents that ran the show at PAL run it in HS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Melville and Smithtown East both suffer from the same problem. Good talent and bad coaching

Bayport also. Decent talent, clueless coaching.

OK..i will take the bait...what the [lacrosse] are you talking about? and what are your credentials?

You cannot be serious about checking credentials on a generally anonymous forum.

How about when he gave up home field advantage in a playoff game in order to play on a turf field? And guess what, BBP lost to the team whose home field was turf.

How about he brought a dream team stacked with talent to the county finals and lost? Again. Made almost zero in game adjustments. Maybe he does a great job at practice and is good with the kids but he should stay off the sidelines. He was out of his league playing against AB and it showed.

"Dream Team"??? I guess your a disgruntled parent. There was 1 stud and some other talent. Stop with the Dream Team stuff

I agree whole heartedly. Parents are terrible. Can almost guarantee post came from disgruntled parent. Go to goal mentality cost them when they played a good defense. Saw them at winter and the game I saw looks like nothing much changed. 3rd place may be in the cards. Parents will be shocked when they get to college and realize little Suzy can't get the job done. Hope they get to keep the scholarship for all 4 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you think that referring to kids as no pass prima donnas is one of the positive aspects? please don't tell me you don't call the so called prima donnas (stars) by that name to your kid. honestly..belonging?

Says the Dad who would rather his daughter reset 3 or 4 times trying to get to the cage rather than make a pass just to keep her name in the paper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Hoping for change? I don't really know. Don't forget, HS sports is very much about the social aspect for the kids, and belonging.

You are beyond help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Hoping for change? I don't really know. Don't forget, HS sports is very much about the social aspect for the kids, and belonging.

You are beyond help.

It's social/school thing for 75% of the team that will never play beyond HS. It is a cut throat get your name in the paper sport for those who have committed and are still trying to pad their college BIO Page. That's the disconnect

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are beyond help.

It's social/school thing for 75% of the team that will never play beyond HS. It is a cut throat get your name in the paper sport for those who have committed and are still trying to pad their college BIO Page. That's the disconnect [/quote]

THIS. This explains a lot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Hoping for change? I don't really know. Don't forget, HS sports is very much about the social aspect for the kids, and belonging.

You are beyond help.

It's social/school thing for 75% of the team that will never play beyond HS. It is a cut throat get your name in the paper sport for those who have committed and are still trying to pad their college BIO Page. That's the disconnect

Wow, you really don't get it, do you? Did you ever compete at anything? I guess in you view everybody should get a trophy, everyone should have a chance to be the quarter back, everyone should take turns pitching and everyone should have a chance to win the 100 meter race.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Hoping for change? I don't really know. Don't forget, HS sports is very much about the social aspect for the kids, and belonging.

You are beyond help.

It's social/school thing for 75% of the team that will never play beyond HS. It is a cut throat get your name in the paper sport for those who have committed and are still trying to pad their college BIO Page. That's the disconnect

Wow, you really don't get it, do you? Did you ever compete at anything? I guess in you view everybody should get a trophy, everyone should have a chance to be the quarter back, everyone should take turns pitching and everyone should have a chance to win the 100 meter race.

I don't think that at all. I do think that lacrosse is a team game. Girls shouldn't be trying to run the ball up when teammates are open ahead of them. I don't think girls should be trying to dodge through 3-4 defenders when teammates are open and in better shooting position. I don't think 2 or 3 girls should be a team's entire offense - share the ball - good things will happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Hoping for change? I don't really know. Don't forget, HS sports is very much about the social aspect for the kids, and belonging.

You are beyond help.

It's social/school thing for 75% of the team that will never play beyond HS. It is a cut throat get your name in the paper sport for those who have committed and are still trying to pad their college BIO Page. That's the disconnect

Wow, you really don't get it, do you? Did you ever compete at anything? I guess in you view everybody should get a trophy, everyone should have a chance to be the quarter back, everyone should take turns pitching and everyone should have a chance to win the 100 meter race.

Congratulations dad. It sounds like your daughter is the ONE on our team that will play in college. She is surrounded by some other pretty good athletes the award winning volleyball, basketball and soccer players. They are above average in any sport they play. Just because they don't go down to Maryland everyone weekend over the summer doesn't mean they cant play lax. So tell your kid to pass the ball because with your kid scoring 100 goals we still will only be 500 as a team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's unfortunate. seriously. I do have a question. if that's the case why stay on the team? if you are the player, do something else. if this is a parent posting , why would you make your child stay on team? seems like you are resigned to endure a pretty lousy situation. why?

Hoping for change? I don't really know. Don't forget, HS sports is very much about the social aspect for the kids, and belonging.

You are beyond help.

It's social/school thing for 75% of the team that will never play beyond HS. It is a cut throat get your name in the paper sport for those who have committed and are still trying to pad their college BIO Page. That's the disconnect

Wow, you really don't get it, do you? Did you ever compete at anything? I guess in you view everybody should get a trophy, everyone should have a chance to be the quarter back, everyone should take turns pitching and everyone should have a chance to win the 100 meter race.

Congratulations dad. It sounds like your daughter is the ONE on our team that will play in college. She is surrounded by some other pretty good athletes the award winning volleyball, basketball and soccer players. They are above average in any sport they play. Just because they don't go down to Maryland everyone weekend over the summer doesn't mean they cant play lax. So tell your kid to pass the ball because with your kid scoring 100 goals we still will only be 500 as a team

What town do you live in? What type of awards are these athletes receiving? It doesn't appear as though any of the teams would be very competitive if the girls only play the sport in-season. In our town, the best volleyball, basketball, and soccer players are playing year round and they travel as much if not more than the best lacrosse players.

Maybe HS sports have passed me by. Maybe now they are simply about everyone having a chance to play and be a part of the team. Now that I think about it I guess that is why High School sports now play second fiddle to the club teams. AAU Basketball, Travel Soccer, Club Volleyball, Travel Lacrosse etc... are all much more competitive than their HS counterparts. College Coaches do just about all of their recruiting on the AAU/Travel Circuit because that is where the top talent is.

The next thing you know they will stop keeping score at HS sporting events. Maybe they should take away the Cages, Baskets, Nets, Goals, Finish lines ect... Just have one big play date and let all of the girls participate. While we are at it lets get rid of the AP and Honors Classes as well and give everybody a C.

By the way, Who do you want this so called Ball Hog to pass the ball to? Oh thats right, your daughter. Why is that? Oh yeah, so she can be the one to score the goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations dad. It sounds like your daughter is the ONE on our team that will play in college. She is surrounded by some other pretty good athletes the award winning volleyball, basketball and soccer players. They are above average in any sport they play. Just because they don't go down to Maryland everyone weekend over the summer doesn't mean they cant play lax. So tell your kid to pass the ball because with your kid scoring 100 goals we still will only be 500 as a team

What town do you live in? What type of awards are these athletes receiving? It doesn't appear as though any of the teams would be very competitive if the girls only play the sport in-season. In our town, the best volleyball, basketball, and soccer players are playing year round and they travel as much if not more than the best lacrosse players.

Maybe HS sports have passed me by. Maybe now they are simply about everyone having a chance to play and be a part of the team. Now that I think about it I guess that is why High School sports now play second fiddle to the club teams. AAU Basketball, Travel Soccer, Club Volleyball, Travel Lacrosse etc... are all much more competitive than their HS counterparts. College Coaches do just about all of their recruiting on the AAU/Travel Circuit because that is where the top talent is.

The next thing you know they will stop keeping score at HS sporting events. Maybe they should take away the Cages, Baskets, Nets, Goals, Finish lines ect... Just have one big play date and let all of the girls participate. While we are at it lets get rid of the AP and Honors Classes as well and give everybody a C.

By the way, Who do you want this so called Ball Hog to pass the ball to? Oh thats right, your daughter. Why is that? Oh yeah, so she can be the one to score the goal.

[/quote]

I'd explain to you but it's been explained above and you are clearly too dense to comprehend. IF that's how you think it is, then I suspect you are one of those "pad the stats" parents who encourages his kid to run up her goals against weak teams. I can assure you that is not helping your daughter make friends, not is it helping you. It's a team sport, bucko. Any coach worth his or her salt can outcoach a one-stud team so it makes zero sense to run all plays through one player. Besides the out-coaching scenario, there's the injury situation: stud gets hurt and then what? A wise coach develops the entire team so he/she doesn't screw him/herself or the team. It's about depth, not about superstars or padded stats. You must be too shortsighted or close minded to realize that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations dad. It sounds like your daughter is the ONE on our team that will play in college. She is surrounded by some other pretty good athletes the award winning volleyball, basketball and soccer players. They are above average in any sport they play. Just because they don't go down to Maryland everyone weekend over the summer doesn't mean they cant play lax. So tell your kid to pass the ball because with your kid scoring 100 goals we still will only be 500 as a team

What town do you live in? What type of awards are these athletes receiving? It doesn't appear as though any of the teams would be very competitive if the girls only play the sport in-season. In our town, the best volleyball, basketball, and soccer players are playing year round and they travel as much if not more than the best lacrosse players.

Maybe HS sports have passed me by. Maybe now they are simply about everyone having a chance to play and be a part of the team. Now that I think about it I guess that is why High School sports now play second fiddle to the club teams. AAU Basketball, Travel Soccer, Club Volleyball, Travel Lacrosse etc... are all much more competitive than their HS counterparts. College Coaches do just about all of their recruiting on the AAU/Travel Circuit because that is where the top talent is.

The next thing you know they will stop keeping score at HS sporting events. Maybe they should take away the Cages, Baskets, Nets, Goals, Finish lines ect... Just have one big play date and let all of the girls participate. While we are at it lets get rid of the AP and Honors Classes as well and give everybody a C.

By the way, Who do you want this so called Ball Hog to pass the ball to? Oh thats right, your daughter. Why is that? Oh yeah, so she can be the one to score the goal.

I'd explain to you but it's been explained above and you are clearly too dense to comprehend. IF that's how you think it is, then I suspect you are one of those "pad the stats" parents who encourages his kid to run up her goals against weak teams. I can assure you that is not helping your daughter make friends, not is it helping you. It's a team sport, bucko. Any coach worth his or her salt can outcoach a one-stud team so it makes zero sense to run all plays through one player. Besides the out-coaching scenario, there's the injury situation: stud gets hurt and then what? A wise coach develops the entire team so he/she doesn't screw him/herself or the team. It's about depth, not about superstars or padded stats. You must be too shortsighted or close minded to realize that. [/quote]

Wow these ball hogs must be incredible, hopefully I will have a chance to watch one of them play some day.

It must be pretty amazing to watch one girl take the draw, get the ball, sprint down the field and score a goal 100 times per season. And what smart coaching to recognize such a talent, imagine how poorly the team would do if they didn't have such a great player.

My female students are telling me he AD will be requiring them to wear helmets for the games but his year. I checked into it and it hey are correct. They are very upset. Can they mandate his?

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations dad. It sounds like your daughter is the ONE on our team that will play in college. She is surrounded by some other pretty good athletes the award winning volleyball, basketball and soccer players. They are above average in any sport they play. Just because they don't go down to Maryland everyone weekend over the summer doesn't mean they cant play lax. So tell your kid to pass the ball because with your kid scoring 100 goals we still will only be 500 as a team

What town do you live in? What type of awards are these athletes receiving? It doesn't appear as though any of the teams would be very competitive if the girls only play the sport in-season. In our town, the best volleyball, basketball, and soccer players are playing year round and they travel as much if not more than the best lacrosse players.

Maybe HS sports have passed me by. Maybe now they are simply about everyone having a chance to play and be a part of the team. Now that I think about it I guess that is why High School sports now play second fiddle to the club teams. AAU Basketball, Travel Soccer, Club Volleyball, Travel Lacrosse etc... are all much more competitive than their HS counterparts. College Coaches do just about all of their recruiting on the AAU/Travel Circuit because that is where the top talent is.

The next thing you know they will stop keeping score at HS sporting events. Maybe they should take away the Cages, Baskets, Nets, Goals, Finish lines ect... Just have one big play date and let all of the girls participate. While we are at it lets get rid of the AP and Honors Classes as well and give everybody a C.

By the way, Who do you want this so called Ball Hog to pass the ball to? Oh thats right, your daughter. Why is that? Oh yeah, so she can be the one to score the goal.

I'd explain to you but it's been explained above and you are clearly too dense to comprehend. IF that's how you think it is, then I suspect you are one of those "pad the stats" parents who encourages his kid to run up her goals against weak teams. I can assure you that is not helping your daughter make friends, not is it helping you. It's a team sport, bucko. Any coach worth his or her salt can outcoach a one-stud team so it makes zero sense to run all plays through one player. Besides the out-coaching scenario, there's the injury situation: stud gets hurt and then what? A wise coach develops the entire team so he/she doesn't screw him/herself or the team. It's about depth, not about superstars or padded stats. You must be too shortsighted or close minded to realize that. [/quote]

You are just completely wrong, yes you want to develop the whole team but the best teams have kids that are role players and unfortunately parents like you refuse to accept their childs role unless its a goal scorer. Do you think every kid should do the draw or play goal, than why do you think every kid should be a shooter or a dodger. The best coaches put kids in positions to be successful.Look at successful college teams they have multiple scorers but most run their offense thru 2 or 3 key players 90 percent of the time.

With respect to helmets:
Does anyone know what the policies are for each/their district?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Do you mean that the only player "required" to wear a helmet is the goalie?
Or are you saying that field players can not wear helmets even if they wanted to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh lord, are we still doing this top ranked D1 lacrosse thing?
Just in case you didn't notice there are no big offers to play at the professional level either. So why get crazy over this stuff?
After 4 years of D1 level of play only the player will care where they played.

AGREED

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Do you mean that the only player "required" to wear a helmet is the goalie?
Or are you saying that field players can not wear helmets even if they wanted to?

Correct. Sore head gear is a field players only option. I am a Girls official it is cut and dry, no gray area. Also the only player with a helmet happens to be the most concussed player in women's lacrosse. Helmets do not prevent concussions .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Do you mean that the only player "required" to wear a helmet is the goalie?
Or are you saying that field players can not wear helmets even if they wanted to?

Correct. Sore head gear is a field players only option. I am a Girls official it is cut and dry, no gray area. Also the only player with a helmet happens to be the most concussed player in women's lacrosse. Helmets do not prevent concussions .

Thank you very much, any idea where it states that in writing? I agree with a previous poster, would not want to play opponents with helmets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Do you mean that the only player "required" to wear a helmet is the goalie?
Or are you saying that field players can not wear helmets even if they wanted to?

Correct. Sore head gear is a field players only option. I am a Girls official it is cut and dry, no gray area. Also the only player with a helmet happens to be the most concussed player in women's lacrosse. Helmets do not prevent concussions .

Thank you very much, any idea where it states that in writing? I agree with a previous poster, would not want to play opponents with helmets

Then move to the progressive foul system throwing out hackers after 3,4,5 fouls like basketball. Ref your thoughts? Seems many are afraid to go to yellows and reds. The progressive system gets them out without the cards

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Do you mean that the only player "required" to wear a helmet is the goalie?
Or are you saying that field players can not wear helmets even if they wanted to?

Correct. Sore head gear is a field players only option. I am a Girls official it is cut and dry, no gray area. Also the only player with a helmet happens to be the most concussed player in women's lacrosse. Helmets do not prevent concussions .

Thank you very much, any idea where it states that in writing? I agree with a previous poster, would not want to play opponents with helmets

There is not an Offical on Long Island that would allow a game to be played with field players wearing helmets. Soft head gear approved by us lacrosse yes. Helmets no. Look it up in the rule book you can download it from uslax web site

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Do you mean that the only player "required" to wear a helmet is the goalie?
Or are you saying that field players can not wear helmets even if they wanted to?

Correct. Sore head gear is a field players only option. I am a Girls official it is cut and dry, no gray area. Also the only player with a helmet happens to be the most concussed player in women's lacrosse. Helmets do not prevent concussions .

Thank you very much, any idea where it states that in writing? I agree with a previous poster, would not want to play opponents with helmets

Then move to the progressive foul system throwing out hackers after 3,4,5 fouls like basketball. Ref your thoughts? Seems many are afraid to go to yellows and reds. The progressive system gets them out without the cards

Bad idea. You will have more offensive players charging into defenders trying to draw fouls and have defenders accumulate fouls. defenders will rack up fouls and be disqualified. The game is skewed to the offense already. In some games it is impossible for defenders to play defense due to terrible officiating. Officials do not call offensive charges and consistently bail out offensive players who run into double/triple teams with free position calls. Would like to see the rules enforced correctly and incorporate 1-2 min man-up penalties for major safety fouls outside the 8 meter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

Helmets are a terrible idea. Let the girls play and stop crying about every time someone touches you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

Ok... so how will helmets help. You just confirmed the point that officiating is terrible...so how will helmets change that. In fact helmets will make bad officiating worse since hits to head will now be called less frequently and offensive players will use helmets to their advantage. Bad idea...bad policy.

Cascade rounds up all the HS Superintendents on Long island and says "make the game safer buy our head gear" Sups all they hear is oh it will make game safer...Big Money Grab for Cascade with the disclaimer by them that it does not prevent concussions. Total Scam
Then it will trickle down to all the club teams: more $$ for them
Soccer players, where there are so many more instances of concussions dont have to wear head gear! Crazy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

Is that what Mt. Sinai bought? Helmet With the goggles/face mask built in? So your saying the refs will not allow these teams to wear the gear they just purchased? Section 11, the refs and all the AD's better get this figured out before the seasons starts. Sounds like it is going to be a big mess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

Ok... so how will helmets help. You just confirmed the point that officiating is terrible...so how will helmets change that. In fact helmets will make bad officiating worse since hits to head will now be called less frequently and offensive players will use helmets to their advantage. Bad idea...bad policy.

We live in a litigious society. Why do they keep messing with the football rules? Because of lawsuits. TERRIBLE OFFICIATING in girls lax is going to lead us to helmets. The rules are not properly enforced I think we can all agree on that. And since they aren't enforced, the players and coaches keep pushing the boundries

I have to think there are more concussions in other sports like soccer and field hockey - maybe even basketball. Don't see why people feel helmets are needed. It will cause the pley to get even more physical which will hurt the sport. I have been around the sport for about 12 years at the youth level, high school level and college level and I can't recall more than a handfull of concussions over that time period. Best bet is to call the game tighter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

If Levittown attempts to field a girls team wearing helmets the game will not be played until they are removed. Helmets are illegal in woman's lacrosse. Only the goalie is permitted to wear a helmet. Soft head gear or goggles are the only thing the girls are permitted to wear.Here is what is on US Lacrosse web site.
Women's Lacrosse Headgear FAQs
Points of Emphasis
The use of headgear is optional in girls' and women's lacrosse.
Any headgear used after January 1, 2017 must meet the ASTM standard, F3137.
The ASTM standard, F3137, is a performance standard, not a design standard.
Product designs will likely vary from one manufacturer to another.
Products must provide full coverage of the head.
Products must be worn with required ASTM women�s lacrosse eyewear.
There must be marking on both the packaging and product that states that the headgear conforms to ASTM standard F3137.
What does the standard mean?
The ASTM standard is the first-ever performance standard for women�s lacrosse headgear, developed to help reduce impact forces associated with stick and ball contact in women�s lacrosse.
Will the new headgear prevent concussions?
The headgear standard was developed to decrease ball- and stick-to-head impact force. No headgear or helmet in any sport has been proven to prevent concussions.
Is the use of headgear required?
No. Headgear remains optional in the US Lacrosse Youth Rule Book and in the USL/NFHS Rule Book.
When will this headgear be available?
Headgear products have begun to be available in the marketplace, as of September 2016. US Lacrosse has created an online listing for headgear models that have submitted a passing report in compliance with ASTM standard F3137.
Will the new headgear be soft?
ASTM standard F3137 is not a soft headgear standard and the standard itself makes no mention of the word "soft." However, the testing protocol does require that the product meets a certain flexibility to insure that players who are wearing the product do not injure those who are not.
How much will the new headgear products cost?
Products vary in cost and design. Please contact the headgear manufacturers for more information.
What will the headgear look like?
The ASTM standard requires the headgear to fully cover the head, thus precluding the use of head band type products currently used by some players. All headgear must be worn with required eyewear, and some headgear models have integrated eyewear. The standard has two options, allowing manufacturers to make their headgear with eyewear implemented or a product that is compatible with various eyewear products currently on the market.
For further inquiries, please contact Caitlin Kelley, Women's Game Senior Manager at US Lacrosse, at ckelley@uslacrosse.org.

The cascade helmet is soft head gear. It looks like a traditional rigid helmet but it is completely flexible, outside of the goggles.

Levittown bought helmets for the girls and a few parents that know the rules will protest with the girls, the AD took it upon himself without asking anyone for input. He did no research. I certainly hope officials do not allow it. The AD can be an obnoxious bully, would love to see this backfire on him. Sat next to him at a game last year and he was clueless as to how the game is played. Both my son and daughter play and both agree it's ridiculous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cascade rounds up all the HS Superintendents on Long island and says "make the game safer buy our head gear" Sups all they hear is oh it will make game safer...Big Money Grab for Cascade with the disclaimer by them that it does not prevent concussions. Total Scam
Then it will trickle down to all the club teams: more $$ for them
Soccer players, where there are so many more instances of concussions dont have to wear head gear! Crazy

Spot on! Could you imagine soccer players wearing helmets?? Ridiculous to force these girls to wear helmets under the disguise of making them safer. Money grab for Cascade is right! They are ugly as they are useless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

If Levittown attempts to field a girls team wearing helmets the game will not be played until they are removed. Helmets are illegal in woman's lacrosse. Only the goalie is permitted to wear a helmet. Soft head gear or goggles are the only thing the girls are permitted to wear.Here is what is on US Lacrosse web site.
Women's Lacrosse Headgear FAQs
Points of Emphasis
The use of headgear is optional in girls' and women's lacrosse.
Any headgear used after January 1, 2017 must meet the ASTM standard, F3137.
The ASTM standard, F3137, is a performance standard, not a design standard.
Product designs will likely vary from one manufacturer to another.
Products must provide full coverage of the head.
Products must be worn with required ASTM womens lacrosse eyewear.
There must be marking on both the packaging and product that states that the headgear conforms to ASTM standard F3137.
What does the standard mean?
The ASTM standard is the first-ever performance standard for womens lacrosse headgear, developed to help reduce impact forces associated with stick and ball contact in womens lacrosse.
Will the new headgear prevent concussions?
The headgear standard was developed to decrease ball- and stick-to-head impact force. No headgear or helmet in any sport has been proven to prevent concussions.
Is the use of headgear required?
No. Headgear remains optional in the US Lacrosse Youth Rule Book and in the USL/NFHS Rule Book.
When will this headgear be available?
Headgear products have begun to be available in the marketplace, as of September 2016. US Lacrosse has created an online listing for headgear models that have submitted a passing report in compliance with ASTM standard F3137.
Will the new headgear be soft?
ASTM standard F3137 is not a soft headgear standard and the standard itself makes no mention of the word "soft." However, the testing protocol does require that the product meets a certain flexibility to insure that players who are wearing the product do not injure those who are not.
How much will the new headgear products cost?
Products vary in cost and design. Please contact the headgear manufacturers for more information.
What will the headgear look like?
The ASTM standard requires the headgear to fully cover the head, thus precluding the use of head band type products currently used by some players. All headgear must be worn with required eyewear, and some headgear models have integrated eyewear. The standard has two options, allowing manufacturers to make their headgear with eyewear implemented or a product that is compatible with various eyewear products currently on the market.
For further inquiries, please contact Caitlin Kelley, Women's Game Senior Manager at US Lacrosse, at ckelley@uslacrosse.org.

The Cascade helmet is "soft" in that it has some flex. US Lacrosse does not govern or have any authority over High School athletics.

Its the stick swinging not the concussions. Everyone gasps a few times a game watching some girl get whacked. Happens every game. People are scared of the lawsuits. This is the nanny state protestors want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its the stick swinging not the concussions. Everyone gasps a few times a game watching some girl get whacked. Happens every game. People are scared of the lawsuits. This is the nanny state protestors want.

Girls need to toughen up and stop the whining! So you get wacked with a stick and get a little bruise, give me a break, you'll get a nice free shot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

If Levittown attempts to field a girls team wearing helmets the game will not be played until they are removed. Helmets are illegal in woman's lacrosse. Only the goalie is permitted to wear a helmet. Soft head gear or goggles are the only thing the girls are permitted to wear.Here is what is on US Lacrosse web site.
Women's Lacrosse Headgear FAQs
Points of Emphasis
The use of headgear is optional in girls' and women's lacrosse.
Any headgear used after January 1, 2017 must meet the ASTM standard, F3137.
The ASTM standard, F3137, is a performance standard, not a design standard.
Product designs will likely vary from one manufacturer to another.
Products must provide full coverage of the head.
Products must be worn with required ASTM womens lacrosse eyewear.
There must be marking on both the packaging and product that states that the headgear conforms to ASTM standard F3137.
What does the standard mean?
The ASTM standard is the first-ever performance standard for womens lacrosse headgear, developed to help reduce impact forces associated with stick and ball contact in womens lacrosse.
Will the new headgear prevent concussions?
The headgear standard was developed to decrease ball- and stick-to-head impact force. No headgear or helmet in any sport has been proven to prevent concussions.
Is the use of headgear required?
No. Headgear remains optional in the US Lacrosse Youth Rule Book and in the USL/NFHS Rule Book.
When will this headgear be available?
Headgear products have begun to be available in the marketplace, as of September 2016. US Lacrosse has created an online listing for headgear models that have submitted a passing report in compliance with ASTM standard F3137.
Will the new headgear be soft?
ASTM standard F3137 is not a soft headgear standard and the standard itself makes no mention of the word "soft." However, the testing protocol does require that the product meets a certain flexibility to insure that players who are wearing the product do not injure those who are not.
How much will the new headgear products cost?
Products vary in cost and design. Please contact the headgear manufacturers for more information.
What will the headgear look like?
The ASTM standard requires the headgear to fully cover the head, thus precluding the use of head band type products currently used by some players. All headgear must be worn with required eyewear, and some headgear models have integrated eyewear. The standard has two options, allowing manufacturers to make their headgear with eyewear implemented or a product that is compatible with various eyewear products currently on the market.
For further inquiries, please contact Caitlin Kelley, Women's Game Senior Manager at US Lacrosse, at ckelley@uslacrosse.org.

The Cascade helmet is "soft" in that it has some flex. US Lacrosse does not govern or have any authority over High School athletics.

Then do not call it a helmet it is called soft head gear. a helmet implies what a goalie is wearing there is a big difference between the two. US Lacrosse writes the rules that NYS adopts for HS Sports. Every official goes by the US Lacrosse rule book period. NYS has not mandated soft head gear for HS Girls Lacrosse for 2017.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

If Levittown attempts to field a girls team wearing helmets the game will not be played until they are removed. Helmets are illegal in woman's lacrosse. Only the goalie is permitted to wear a helmet. Soft head gear or goggles are the only thing the girls are permitted to wear.Here is what is on US Lacrosse web site.
Women's Lacrosse Headgear FAQs
Points of Emphasis
The use of headgear is optional in girls' and women's lacrosse.
Any headgear used after January 1, 2017 must meet the ASTM standard, F3137.
The ASTM standard, F3137, is a performance standard, not a design standard.
Product designs will likely vary from one manufacturer to another.
Products must provide full coverage of the head.
Products must be worn with required ASTM womens lacrosse eyewear.
There must be marking on both the packaging and product that states that the headgear conforms to ASTM standard F3137.
What does the standard mean?
The ASTM standard is the first-ever performance standard for womens lacrosse headgear, developed to help reduce impact forces associated with stick and ball contact in womens lacrosse.
Will the new headgear prevent concussions?
The headgear standard was developed to decrease ball- and stick-to-head impact force. No headgear or helmet in any sport has been proven to prevent concussions.
Is the use of headgear required?
No. Headgear remains optional in the US Lacrosse Youth Rule Book and in the USL/NFHS Rule Book.
When will this headgear be available?
Headgear products have begun to be available in the marketplace, as of September 2016. US Lacrosse has created an online listing for headgear models that have submitted a passing report in compliance with ASTM standard F3137.
Will the new headgear be soft?
ASTM standard F3137 is not a soft headgear standard and the standard itself makes no mention of the word "soft." However, the testing protocol does require that the product meets a certain flexibility to insure that players who are wearing the product do not injure those who are not.
How much will the new headgear products cost?
Products vary in cost and design. Please contact the headgear manufacturers for more information.
What will the headgear look like?
The ASTM standard requires the headgear to fully cover the head, thus precluding the use of head band type products currently used by some players. All headgear must be worn with required eyewear, and some headgear models have integrated eyewear. The standard has two options, allowing manufacturers to make their headgear with eyewear implemented or a product that is compatible with various eyewear products currently on the market.
For further inquiries, please contact Caitlin Kelley, Women's Game Senior Manager at US Lacrosse, at ckelley@uslacrosse.org.

The Cascade helmet is "soft" in that it has some flex. US Lacrosse does not govern or have any authority over High School athletics.

Then do not call it a helmet it is called soft head gear. a helmet implies what a goalie is wearing there is a big difference between the two. US Lacrosse writes the rules that NYS adopts for HS Sports. Every official goes by the US Lacrosse rule book period. NYS has not mandated soft head gear for HS Girls Lacrosse for 2017.

I think you are the only one that is getting worked up with the term helmet. Most of us know when the term helmet is used people are referring to the new girls lacrosse "helmet." It is a helmet....

hel�met
ˈhelmət/
noun
1.
a hard or padded protective hat, various types of which are worn by soldiers, police officers, firefighters, motorcyclists, athletes, and others.

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

A lawsuit? For what? Clearly your daughter has no business playing a team sport, ya wuss!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

My daughter will school your helmet wearing wuss, no worries here.

just what the girls game needs..more stoppages of play...not like we don't have to be tormented by the endless whistles already..makes watching girls/womens lax torture..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

Yeah, so?? How does playing a team in helmets make it more dangerous for girls who are not wearing them? The rules are still the same.

Unless refs start calling the flagrant fouls helmets are coming within the next 5 years. Just like the NFL is moving to flag football

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

Yeah, so?? How does playing a team in helmets make it more dangerous for girls who are not wearing them? The rules are still the same.

Cmon really. Helmets will allow offensive players to charge into defenders even more than they do now. Any equipment that 1 team has that another doesn't is an advantage. The helmet thing is a total money grab by the manufacturer. I'm still wondering the purpose of using a helmet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

Yeah, so?? How does playing a team in helmets make it more dangerous for girls who are not wearing them? The rules are still the same.

Cmon really. Helmets will allow offensive players to charge into defenders even more than they do now. Any equipment that 1 team has that another doesn't is an advantage. The helmet thing is a total money grab by the manufacturer. I'm still wondering the purpose of using a helmet.

How exactly does a lacrosse player charge head first?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

Yeah, so?? How does playing a team in helmets make it more dangerous for girls who are not wearing them? The rules are still the same.

Cmon really. Helmets will allow offensive players to charge into defenders even more than they do now. Any equipment that 1 team has that another doesn't is an advantage. The helmet thing is a total money grab by the manufacturer. I'm still wondering the purpose of using a helmet.

How exactly does a lacrosse player charge head first?

Watch a game numnuts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

Yeah, so?? How does playing a team in helmets make it more dangerous for girls who are not wearing them? The rules are still the same.

Cmon really. Helmets will allow offensive players to charge into defenders even more than they do now. Any equipment that 1 team has that another doesn't is an advantage. The helmet thing is a total money grab by the manufacturer. I'm still wondering the purpose of using a helmet.

How exactly does a lacrosse player charge head first?

OK this person can't be that dumb? If one person is wearing head protection and is in any way in a situation where there might be contact to the head, that person is less likly to to take a defensive act because they feel protected, and will take a more aggressive approach. A person not wearing a helmet will be naturally afraid of an injury and try to protect themselves. To say the rules are still the rules is ignorent at best. Two girls going for a ball are more likely to bump heads, or take an elbow to the head, or trip and fall and maybe smack their head on the ground, non of which is governed by a rule. A girl with a helmet will no longer have that fear, and she will not pull up. Anyone that needs to be told this obviously never played a sport, especially one where contact is common

Let's all remember that helmets in no way protect against concussions. Skull fractures and head wounds, yes. Concussions, no.

With the speed the ball is traveling now given the equipment and the strength of the girls, helmets should be considered. I have not wanted it, but some of the shots are scary now. At the collegiate level, someone is going to be seriously injured/killed. I hope it doesn't take that for things to change. Forget concussions, it is too hard to enforce shooting space w the athleticism and speed w which the women's game is now played.

I don't know of any player killed or seriously injured playing lacrosse! Do t play if your scared to get hurt! We won't miss ya

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know of any player killed or seriously injured playing lacrosse! Do t play if your scared to get hurt! We won't miss ya

This is an untrue statement, I wont go into details, but Long Island had lost one boy several years ago from a ball strike (to the chest). His death caused many school districts to mandate AED's. And there have been several serious injuries in girls lax, you are just too narrow minded, because it never happened in "your world" so in you mind it doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know of any player killed or seriously injured playing lacrosse! Do t play if your scared to get hurt! We won't miss ya

This is an untrue statement, I wont go into details, but Long Island had lost one boy several years ago from a ball strike (to the chest). His death caused many school districts to mandate AED's. And there have been several serious injuries in girls lax, you are just too narrow minded, because it never happened in "your world" so in you mind it doesn't exist.

That was a freak accident, happens in baseball much more often and they don't wear much protection, if any. If your scared of getting injured, don't play! Sports. There are safe video game versions for your daughter. Oh and a soft helmet is not protecting much at all, especially the chest, making your comment irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know of any player killed or seriously injured playing lacrosse! Do t play if your scared to get hurt! We won't miss ya

This is an untrue statement, I wont go into details, but Long Island had lost one boy several years ago from a ball strike (to the chest). His death caused many school districts to mandate AED's. And there have been several serious injuries in girls lax, you are just too narrow minded, because it never happened in "your world" so in you mind it doesn't exist.

That was a freak accident, happens in baseball much more often and they don't wear much protection, if any. If your scared of getting injured, don't play! Sports. There are safe video game versions for your daughter. Oh and a soft helmet is not protecting much at all, especially the chest, making your comment irrelevant.

Hey dad, re-read you answer and come back and post that you are sorry for being a [lacrosse]

terrible coaching, terrible parents and the girls just being out of control is what is going to lead to helmets.

If you've never heard about anyone being severely injured, please google Scott DeVerna Wantagh. Then get back to me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, JERK!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you've never heard about anyone being severely injured, please google Scott DeVerna Wantagh. Then get back to me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, JERK!!!

Over the years I have witnessed three different girls at three different tournaments get airlifted off the field. (All travel Summer games) . One girl was back on the sidelines later in the day, the other two I do not know the outcome, but suffice to say there is a fair amount of danger that comes along with the sport, like most all sports. Not sure if helmets are the answer but definitely a team wearing helmets should not be allowed to play a team not wearing them. Ask a NFL team to play without helmets. I cringe watching a guy lose his helmet and still actively perusing a play. And yes there is less contact to be expected with girls lax but strap a helmet on a girl and watch how wreckless she would become going in a pile after a ground ball. Can't let that happen against a girl with no helmet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you've never heard about anyone being severely injured, please google Scott DeVerna Wantagh. Then get back to me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, JERK!!!

Over the years I have witnessed three different girls at three different tournaments get airlifted off the field. (All travel Summer games) . One girl was back on the sidelines later in the day, the other two I do not know the outcome, but suffice to say there is a fair amount of danger that comes along with the sport, like most all sports. Not sure if helmets are the answer but definitely a team wearing helmets should not be allowed to play a team not wearing them. Ask a NFL team to play without helmets. I cringe watching a guy lose his helmet and still actively perusing a play. And yes there is less contact to be expected with girls lax but strap a helmet on a girl and watch how wreckless she would become going in a pile after a ground ball. Can't let that happen against a girl with no helmet.

There are rules written to protect the players but refs don't enforce. That is the danger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you've never heard about anyone being severely injured, please google Scott DeVerna Wantagh. Then get back to me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, JERK!!!

Over the years I have witnessed three different girls at three different tournaments get airlifted off the field. (All travel Summer games) . One girl was back on the sidelines later in the day, the other two I do not know the outcome, but suffice to say there is a fair amount of danger that comes along with the sport, like most all sports. Not sure if helmets are the answer but definitely a team wearing helmets should not be allowed to play a team not wearing them. Ask a NFL team to play without helmets. I cringe watching a guy lose his helmet and still actively perusing a play. And yes there is less contact to be expected with girls lax but strap a helmet on a girl and watch how wreckless she would become going in a pile after a ground ball. Can't let that happen against a girl with no helmet.

I've seen girls helicoptered off the field as well, but all were leg injuries, not head ...

Very difficult to decipher what the rules are from this site and from looking at US lacrosse site because the athletic directors told the coach the board of ed can make rules above the head of NYHSAA and US Lacrosse. There must be a person in charge of officiating that can help- can a school board supersede? Who is in charge? How can it be mandated if it's not officially part of the uniform? Is there a nysed person that can help? We know the "headgear" meets whatever standards there is which is bizarre because it a hard helmet, but how can ONE school district mandate it be worn if it's NOT considered part of the uniform? What about lice and ticks? The whole thing is just wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you've never heard about anyone being severely injured, please google Scott DeVerna Wantagh. Then get back to me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, JERK!!!

Over the years I have witnessed three different girls at three different tournaments get airlifted off the field. (All travel Summer games) . One girl was back on the sidelines later in the day, the other two I do not know the outcome, but suffice to say there is a fair amount of danger that comes along with the sport, like most all sports. Not sure if helmets are the answer but definitely a team wearing helmets should not be allowed to play a team not wearing them. Ask a NFL team to play without helmets. I cringe watching a guy lose his helmet and still actively perusing a play. And yes there is less contact to be expected with girls lax but strap a helmet on a girl and watch how wreckless she would become going in a pile after a ground ball. Can't let that happen against a girl with no helmet.

I've seen girls helicoptered off the field as well, but all were leg injuries, not head ...

"Helicoptered" off the field for a torn ACL? Only life threatening injuries are "helicoptered" off of anywhere. I'm calling Bullsh-t on that one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you've never heard about anyone being severely injured, please google Scott DeVerna Wantagh. Then get back to me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, JERK!!!

Over the years I have witnessed three different girls at three different tournaments get airlifted off the field. (All travel Summer games) . One girl was back on the sidelines later in the day, the other two I do not know the outcome, but suffice to say there is a fair amount of danger that comes along with the sport, like most all sports. Not sure if helmets are the answer but definitely a team wearing helmets should not be allowed to play a team not wearing them. Ask a NFL team to play without helmets. I cringe watching a guy lose his helmet and still actively perusing a play. And yes there is less contact to be expected with girls lax but strap a helmet on a girl and watch how wreckless she would become going in a pile after a ground ball. Can't let that happen against a girl with no helmet.

I've seen girls helicoptered off the field as well, but all were leg injuries, not head ...

"Helicoptered" off the field for a torn ACL? Only life threatening injuries are "helicoptered" off of anywhere. I'm calling Bullsh-t on that one

One was a spiral fracture and the other was a compound fracture

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you've never heard about anyone being severely injured, please google Scott DeVerna Wantagh. Then get back to me. THINK BEFORE YOU POST, JERK!!!

Over the years I have witnessed three different girls at three different tournaments get airlifted off the field. (All travel Summer games) . One girl was back on the sidelines later in the day, the other two I do not know the outcome, but suffice to say there is a fair amount of danger that comes along with the sport, like most all sports. Not sure if helmets are the answer but definitely a team wearing helmets should not be allowed to play a team not wearing them. Ask a NFL team to play without helmets. I cringe watching a guy lose his helmet and still actively perusing a play. And yes there is less contact to be expected with girls lax but strap a helmet on a girl and watch how wreckless she would become going in a pile after a ground ball. Can't let that happen against a girl with no helmet.

I've seen girls helicoptered off the field as well, but all were leg injuries, not head ...

"Helicoptered" off the field for a torn ACL? Only life threatening injuries are "helicoptered" off of anywhere. I'm calling Bullsh-t on that one

One was a spiral fracture and the other was a compound fracture

The three I witnessed were all head and neck injuries.

What school will LI's top scorer come from this year?

Suffolk county will represent! We win games and don't care by how many

Guaranteed it will be a Nassau girl that plays for an above average team that is not in the super conference where all the competition is weak at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What school will LI's top scorer come from this year?

Def middle country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

Ok... so how will helmets help. You just confirmed the point that officiating is terrible...so how will helmets change that. In fact helmets will make bad officiating worse since hits to head will now be called less frequently and offensive players will use helmets to their advantage. Bad idea...bad policy.

We live in a litigious society. Why do they keep messing with the football rules? Because of lawsuits. TERRIBLE OFFICIATING in girls lax is going to lead us to helmets. The rules are not properly enforced I think we can all agree on that. And since they aren't enforced, the players and coaches keep pushing the boundries

exactly right. the rulebook is not even close to followed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guaranteed it will be a Nassau girl that plays for an above average team that is not in the super conference where all the competition is weak at best.

woop-de-doo. who the h cares? its a team game yah steak heads..

had the same argument with a buddy last week. Helmets are a terrible idea for the sport. I do agree with the money grab angle

Here's a novel alternative to using club lax to get recruited: Go juco for a year or two. Here's my reasoning: Over seven summers of club lax we estimated that we spent over $30k for club lax. Dues, travel, swag, etc. After all that, my daughter received $11k a year at a D1 school. She wound up not liking it and transferred to a juco. She's playing at the juco, on a good team, for $4k per year. There are already some 4 year schools that knows she will be available soon. As I see it, that's a huge monetary difference. She still gets to play lax for reduced tuition and still gets a 4 year degree after she transfers. Some of the better jucos scrimmage NCAA D1, 2 and teams and some NAIA teams, and sometimes beat them handily. There is no wlax pro league. No big payout in the end. Do the math.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

Ok... so how will helmets help. You just confirmed the point that officiating is terrible...so how will helmets change that. In fact helmets will make bad officiating worse since hits to head will now be called less frequently and offensive players will use helmets to their advantage. Bad idea...bad policy.

We live in a litigious society. Why do they keep messing with the football rules? Because of lawsuits. TERRIBLE OFFICIATING in girls lax is going to lead us to helmets. The rules are not properly enforced I think we can all agree on that. And since they aren't enforced, the players and coaches keep pushing the boundries

exactly right. the rulebook is not even close to followed.

Soccer, gymnastics, cheer have higher rates of injuries. Lax isn't even close. Stop with the sky is falling liberal nonsense and let the girls play. Tighten up officiating to prevent offensive girls from charging into defenders and enforce stick to body play. The helmets are not "helmets". They are soft protective headgear. Get informed!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's a novel alternative to using club lax to get recruited: Go juco for a year or two. Here's my reasoning: Over seven summers of club lax we estimated that we spent over $30k for club lax. Dues, travel, swag, etc. After all that, my daughter received $11k a year at a D1 school. She wound up not liking it and transferred to a juco. She's playing at the juco, on a good team, for $4k per year. There are already some 4 year schools that knows she will be available soon. As I see it, that's a huge monetary difference. She still gets to play lax for reduced tuition and still gets a 4 year degree after she transfers. Some of the better jucos scrimmage NCAA D1, 2 and teams and some NAIA teams, and sometimes beat them handily. There is no wlax pro league. No big payout in the end. Do the math.

Juco has always been a great idea for all kids (academic kids also) 2 years on the cheap, then much easier to get into colleges that wouldn't have accepted you out of HS but will as a transfer. Its a status thing. Athletes and most academic kids don't want that 2 year thing they look down upon it (I bet they wouldn't if these kids were paying their own way) but they know that mommy and daddy have been driving them to Maryland every summer weekend since Kindergarten so Mommy and Daddy will surely pay for a 4 year school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

Ok... so how will helmets help. You just confirmed the point that officiating is terrible...so how will helmets change that. In fact helmets will make bad officiating worse since hits to head will now be called less frequently and offensive players will use helmets to their advantage. Bad idea...bad policy.

We live in a litigious society. Why do they keep messing with the football rules? Because of lawsuits. TERRIBLE OFFICIATING in girls lax is going to lead us to helmets. The rules are not properly enforced I think we can all agree on that. And since they aren't enforced, the players and coaches keep pushing the boundries

exactly right. the rulebook is not even close to followed.

Soccer, gymnastics, cheer have higher rates of injuries. Lax isn't even close. Stop with the sky is falling liberal nonsense and let the girls play. Tighten up officiating to prevent offensive girls from charging into defenders and enforce stick to body play. The helmets are not "helmets". They are soft protective headgear. Get informed!!!

yes, same as what you just said, call the rulebook and we don't need the helmets.. did you get bumped in the head????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's a novel alternative to using club lax to get recruited: Go juco for a year or two. Here's my reasoning: Over seven summers of club lax we estimated that we spent over $30k for club lax. Dues, travel, swag, etc. After all that, my daughter received $11k a year at a D1 school. She wound up not liking it and transferred to a juco. She's playing at the juco, on a good team, for $4k per year. There are already some 4 year schools that knows she will be available soon. As I see it, that's a huge monetary difference. She still gets to play lax for reduced tuition and still gets a 4 year degree after she transfers. Some of the better jucos scrimmage NCAA D1, 2 and teams and some NAIA teams, and sometimes beat them handily. There is no wlax pro league. No big payout in the end. Do the math.

Juco has always been a great idea for all kids (academic kids also) 2 years on the cheap, then much easier to get into colleges that wouldn't have accepted you out of HS but will as a transfer. Its a status thing. Athletes and most academic kids don't want that 2 year thing they look down upon it (I bet they wouldn't if these kids were paying their own way) but they know that mommy and daddy have been driving them to Maryland every summer weekend since Kindergarten so Mommy and Daddy will surely pay for a 4 year school

That sounds good...what are some of the good jucos?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's a novel alternative to using club lax to get recruited: Go juco for a year or two. Here's my reasoning: Over seven summers of club lax we estimated that we spent over $30k for club lax. Dues, travel, swag, etc. After all that, my daughter received $11k a year at a D1 school. She wound up not liking it and transferred to a juco. She's playing at the juco, on a good team, for $4k per year. There are already some 4 year schools that knows she will be available soon. As I see it, that's a huge monetary difference. She still gets to play lax for reduced tuition and still gets a 4 year degree after she transfers. Some of the better jucos scrimmage NCAA D1, 2 and teams and some NAIA teams, and sometimes beat them handily. There is no wlax pro league. No big payout in the end. Do the math.

Juco has always been a great idea for all kids (academic kids also) 2 years on the cheap, then much easier to get into colleges that wouldn't have accepted you out of HS but will as a transfer. Its a status thing. Athletes and most academic kids don't want that 2 year thing they look down upon it (I bet they wouldn't if these kids were paying their own way) but they know that mommy and daddy have been driving them to Maryland every summer weekend since Kindergarten so Mommy and Daddy will surely pay for a 4 year school

That sounds good...what are some of the good jucos?

Monroe CC, Onondaga CC, Anne Arundel CC, Harford CC, Howard CC. Monroe hasn't lost a game in four years. Unfortunately there are not many juco programs. It would be nice if more community colleges sponsored wlax and it would be nice for some of the huge number of the west coast jucos to jump on board. I saw that Monroe scrimmaged Grand Valley State, Michigan, Quinnipiac and Rochester (not sure of the results), and Anne Arundel scrimmaged NAIA Tennessee Wesleyan, D3 Berry College, D2 Bloomsburg and D3 Lycoming. From what I was told, Anne Arundel beat Tenn Wesleyan by 10, and lost the other three by a combined 8 goals (I know one of the parents). So, there is some good lax played at some the jucos.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's a novel alternative to using club lax to get recruited: Go juco for a year or two. Here's my reasoning: Over seven summers of club lax we estimated that we spent over $30k for club lax. Dues, travel, swag, etc. After all that, my daughter received $11k a year at a D1 school. She wound up not liking it and transferred to a juco. She's playing at the juco, on a good team, for $4k per year. There are already some 4 year schools that knows she will be available soon. As I see it, that's a huge monetary difference. She still gets to play lax for reduced tuition and still gets a 4 year degree after she transfers. Some of the better jucos scrimmage NCAA D1, 2 and teams and some NAIA teams, and sometimes beat them handily. There is no wlax pro league. No big payout in the end. Do the math.

Juco has always been a great idea for all kids (academic kids also) 2 years on the cheap, then much easier to get into colleges that wouldn't have accepted you out of HS but will as a transfer. Its a status thing. Athletes and most academic kids don't want that 2 year thing they look down upon it (I bet they wouldn't if these kids were paying their own way) but they know that mommy and daddy have been driving them to Maryland every summer weekend since Kindergarten so Mommy and Daddy will surely pay for a 4 year school

That sounds good...what are some of the good jucos?

Monroe CC, Onondaga CC, Anne Arundel CC, Harford CC, Howard CC. Monroe hasn't lost a game in four years. Unfortunately there are not many juco programs. It would be nice if more community colleges sponsored wlax and it would be nice for some of the huge number of the west coast jucos to jump on board. I saw that Monroe scrimmaged Grand Valley State, Michigan, Quinnipiac and Rochester (not sure of the results), and Anne Arundel scrimmaged NAIA Tennessee Wesleyan, D3 Berry College, D2 Bloomsburg and D3 Lycoming. From what I was told, Anne Arundel beat Tenn Wesleyan by 10, and lost the other three by a combined 8 goals (I know one of the parents). So, there is some good lax played at some the jucos.

I would like to know what school those girls from juices move on to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's a novel alternative to using club lax to get recruited: Go juco for a year or two. Here's my reasoning: Over seven summers of club lax we estimated that we spent over $30k for club lax. Dues, travel, swag, etc. After all that, my daughter received $11k a year at a D1 school. She wound up not liking it and transferred to a juco. She's playing at the juco, on a good team, for $4k per year. There are already some 4 year schools that knows she will be available soon. As I see it, that's a huge monetary difference. She still gets to play lax for reduced tuition and still gets a 4 year degree after she transfers. Some of the better jucos scrimmage NCAA D1, 2 and teams and some NAIA teams, and sometimes beat them handily. There is no wlax pro league. No big payout in the end. Do the math.

Juco has always been a great idea for all kids (academic kids also) 2 years on the cheap, then much easier to get into colleges that wouldn't have accepted you out of HS but will as a transfer. Its a status thing. Athletes and most academic kids don't want that 2 year thing they look down upon it (I bet they wouldn't if these kids were paying their own way) but they know that mommy and daddy have been driving them to Maryland every summer weekend since Kindergarten so Mommy and Daddy will surely pay for a 4 year school

That sounds good...what are some of the good jucos?

Monroe CC, Onondaga CC, Anne Arundel CC, Harford CC, Howard CC. Monroe hasn't lost a game in four years. Unfortunately there are not many juco programs. It would be nice if more community colleges sponsored wlax and it would be nice for some of the huge number of the west coast jucos to jump on board. I saw that Monroe scrimmaged Grand Valley State, Michigan, Quinnipiac and Rochester (not sure of the results), and Anne Arundel scrimmaged NAIA Tennessee Wesleyan, D3 Berry College, D2 Bloomsburg and D3 Lycoming. From what I was told, Anne Arundel beat Tenn Wesleyan by 10, and lost the other three by a combined 8 goals (I know one of the parents). So, there is some good lax played at some the jucos.

I would like to know what school those girls from juices move on to.

That's probably a little harder to tell. I have seen some transfer info on a couple of the schools websites. It's mix of mid-level D1 then, of course D2 and D3. There probably aren't any juco girls on any of the top 30 or so ranked lax teams, but of course, the VAST majority of wlax players don't play on any those teams either. On the Monroe CC athletics page is a headline about a former Tribune that now plays for Winthrop. Anne Arundel has a former player at D3 power Salisbury, and Anne Arundel has a section where they list their alumni transfers. Lots of D2 and D3 players. Maybe more jucos have a similar list?

The starting goalie at D1 Butler is a former Harford CC player.

Anyone want to discuss D2 advantages/experience/insight ?

Out of the 9 Soph. that made AA in juco last year, I could only find 3 on a current college roster with a google search. If AA are not finding roster spots after juco I am not sure how many others are either. But I agree Juco should be a viable option for girls that want to play lax after HS.

Butler
Colorado
Brockport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guaranteed it will be a Nassau girl that plays for an above average team that is not in the super conference where all the competition is weak at best.

woop-de-doo. who the h cares? its a team game yah steak heads..

Guaranteed it comes from a summer club coaches team. Worst sportsmanship and they love for their studs to run it it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Out of the 9 Soph. that made AA in juco last year, I could only find 3 on a current college roster with a google search. If AA are not finding roster spots after juco I am not sure how many others are either. But I agree Juco should be a viable option for girls that want to play lax after HS.

Butler
Colorado
Brockport

What about the former Anne Arundel player that is now at Salisbury, or was she maybe a freshman at juco then transfer? I think her last name is Draper. I think transferring after juco freshman year is a good idea too. And, one of the big problems with juco is that there are not many programs available. If more juco schools sponsored it, then obviously more girls would play, and more would move on to 4 year schools. I like the concept of juco for some players, especially ones who maybe can't afford the high price of attending a 4 year school. Like was said above, play high school ball and skip club and attend a juco. Huge monetary savings for mom and dad. I think this idea needs more support.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Out of the 9 Soph. that made AA in juco last year, I could only find 3 on a current college roster with a google search. If AA are not finding roster spots after juco I am not sure how many others are either. But I agree Juco should be a viable option for girls that want to play lax after HS.

Butler
Colorado
Brockport

Beatson is at Winthrop and Ruppert is still at Anne Arundel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to discuss D2 advantages/experience/insight ?

From personal experience it's very similar to D1. One daughter in each and work ethic, commitment and competitive teams. Great academics and many offer terrific internships. Great opportunity and generous offers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to discuss D2 advantages/experience/insight ?

I cannot tell you firth-hand what D2 is like, but two kids I formerly coached play D2 in NC. Great school, very good team and from talking to them to see how they're doing, both seem to be having a wonderful time. Both are playing a lot (one is a starter as a freshman) and they seem to be having a great college experience. They do work at lax a lot, but not quite as much as my daughter did at her D1 school. Could be a coach thing, but from what they told me me, they didn't do as much off-season lax stuff as my daughter. Really, really look at D2 and D3. Lots of great schools in those divisions. Don't let yourself or your daughter get caught up in the D1 peer pressure game.

Is infamous girl playing for SA lax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is infamous girl playing for SA lax?

There are so many it's hard to know which one you're referring to.

The club hopper.

What is SA lax?

SA is St.Anthony's...by using term "infamous" he is trying to stir the pot...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA is St.Anthony's...by using term "infamous" he is trying to stir the pot...

Oh, I was thinking it was a club team. Yeah, I see the pot stirring. I've been on this site forever and I still don't know, or really care, who this "infamous" girl is, or why someone is gunning for her.

exactly....kid is, arguably, the best 2020 NY player ....and is committed to NCAA Champs....has she had issues?...no doubt..hopefully a bit of maturity will keep her on straight and narrow...but surely she would not be the 1st kid w/ baggage that has ever committed...
But folks tear her down to make themselves feel better....

I think you are all talking about 2 different players. Both went to SA, one is still there. Other got into quite some trouble and is now back at home school.

Let's be gentile about this now... the girl is good. If her knees hold out she will continue to be at the top of the crop but others, just as skilled, will catch up to her in terms of size. But she has the grit most girls don't have and never will, it's just who she is. She will not be able to carry SA alone... they will have a GO of it with SHA and this year it's either ones championship to win. Looking forward to those matchups.

Yes infamous girl will be playing for SA lax... Wont be surprised if she shows out on that team.

That is truly a [lacrosse] move, champ..

Indeed. I can't wait to see what she brings this season with her speed and skills. 'Infamous girl' is extremely fast, as I've been seeing her run.

She's back at massapequa

Who is faster? UNC commit or club hopper girl?

Why?

Who cares who is faster? and why would an adult even care to type this? these are kids get a life! secondly I think the club hopper reference is silly considering most lax players change clubs multiple times. Most kids start on one club and end up on another. there are multiple TG kids that went to YJ, liberty, Elevate, Leg etc. and vice versa...UNC Commit, Boston Commit, I could go on and on came from another club. So once again it's redundant, silly and just sounds stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She's back at massapequa

Surprised this wasn't posted when it happened, like all of her previous accomplishments were. This could be a case where early recruiting hurts the child who needs to mature. Being put on a pedestal early won't help behavior problems.

This so called club hopper will NOT even make varsity at SA. Please do not put her in same convo as the girl who just left the school

Hmmm… wonder if Jenny Levy knows about the behavior problems… Gait sighing in relief that he won't have to deal with that baggage.

Clubhopper/infamous girl dad was taking to head coach for SA about putting her on varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm… wonder if Jenny Levy knows about the behavior problems… Gait sighing in relief that he won't have to deal with that baggage.

The same Gait that cost syracuse a championship for taking illegal benefits during his playing days?

I really find that hard to believe that any such conversation took place, maybe you can tell us where and when... I wish you all would really leave that girl (infamous) alone. Every season it's the same thing. My goodness, don't you all have lives? or your own children to worry about.

Cub hoppers mean parents or kids cant get along. Definitly someone you don't want in a foxhole with you. Me Me Me

91 one kid and club hopper girl buddie system ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cub hoppers mean parents or kids cant get along. Definitly someone you don't want in a foxhole with you. Me Me Me

Based on your spelling and terrible grammar I am 100% positive you are a kid who I bet does poorly in school. Shouldn't you be getting ready for your season instead of posting all over this and other threads about all the kids that are at SA? Does mom and dad know that you are here starting drama? I sure hope this is not the kid that got the boot from SA starting all this mess.

All those posting about "infamous girl" are jealous. People only talk about others when they're jealous! Sorry she took your daughters spot.Tell her to work harder so she doesn't have to ride pine.

Does anyone have the list of the Nassau divisions? Who is in the Power Conference this year? Is it true that a good team dropped into the CSH division to make the playoffs a little more interesting for them? IS Wantagh, GC and Manhasset still in the same division?

Exactly! Everyone should mind their business! The stalkers are so creepy!

I believe Oceanside moved out of the power conference and Port Washington moved in. Also, Wantagh girls are now a C school with CSH, North Shore, Seaford and Plainedge. Should be interesting in C's this year with CSH and Wantagh losing a lot of seniors from last year, especially Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe Oceanside moved out of the power conference and Port Washington moved in. Also, Wantagh girls are now a C school with CSH, North Shore, Seaford and Plainedge. Should be interesting in C's this year with CSH and Wantagh losing a lot of seniors from last year, especially Wantagh

North Shore Plainedge and Wantagh moved down? The top teams not in the power conference are going to win every game by 2 touchdowns.
Manhasset v GC in B finals
And Wantagh v CSH in C finals??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cub hoppers mean parents or kids cant get along. Definitly someone you don't want in a foxhole with you. Me Me Me

Or they leave because the club sucks and parents do too!

There are no top teams not in the power conference. Nassau is back to competitive based conferences. conference 1 is GC, Wantagh, Manhasset, CSH, NS, Farmingdale,Mass., PW, LB . 2 is Oceanside,Plainedge,OB, Lynbrook,SS, CP, Seafood. Etc....

Plainedge has the new superstar coach from Wantagh, but graduated all of their talent. Lynbrook and Seaford will go undefeated, dark horse will be MacArthur.

Lynbrook and seaford play port Washington so I doubt they will go undefeated

Tough for both to go undefeated when they play each other. Besides they both play PW, SS, Oceanside, CP, OB, Plainedge and Seaford plays Kellenberg. They may have 2 of the best players in Nassau, but undefeated is a stretch

Season starts next week. Let's get those predictions rolling for Suffolk

Suffolk A is a toss up. MC lost a key part of their offense to a torn ACL. Ward Melville has an all star team but the coach doesn't play the girls he should be playing. West Islip's run is over. Both Smithtowns will be good this year and don't count out Northport.

Suffolk B is Eastport-South Manor easily. They will win most games by double digits.

Suffolk C is Mt. Sinai. SWR and BBP just don't have enough to beat them.

Suffolk D. Mattituck over Babylon.

Yes that is correct, Oceanside moved out of power conference and Port Wash moved in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A is a toss up. MC lost a key part of their offense to a torn ACL. Ward Melville has an all star team but the coach doesn't play the girls he should be playing. West Islip's run is over. Both Smithtowns will be good this year and don't count out Northport.

Suffolk B is Eastport-South Manor easily. They will win most games by double digits.

Suffolk C is Mt. Sinai. SWR and BBP just don't have enough to beat them.

Suffolk D. Mattituck over Babylon.

Let me guess, you are from Ward Melville?
Self proclaimed leader in talent.
Then blame the coach for the continued short comings.

When you have 15 girls committed to D1 schools and they don't play because the coach likes to play the seniors than yeah I'm blaming the coach. I'm not from that town and I have watched them get eliminated in the playoffs in previous years by lesser teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A is a toss up. MC lost a key part of their offense to a torn ACL. Ward Melville has an all star team but the coach doesn't play the girls he should be playing. West Islip's run is over. Both Smithtowns will be good this year and don't count out Northport.

Suffolk B is Eastport-South Manor easily. They will win most games by double digits.

Suffolk C is Mt. Sinai. SWR and BBP just don't have enough to beat them.

Suffolk D. Mattituck over Babylon.

Let me guess, you are from Ward Melville?
Self proclaimed leader in talent.
Then blame the coach for the continued short comings.

6 2017 D1 commits. 8 2018 D1 commits and 2 2019 D1 commits. I would say that's an allstar team. If you can't get out of the first round with that team then the coach is doing something wrong. Try and find another team on the island that has that many commits and can't make the county finals.

Is there a site (other than a specific HS) where one can find 2017 spring schedules for LI Nassau Publics?
Thanks..

If you're not from that town, how on earth would you know how many D1 commits they have. That information is not listed anywhere so give it a rest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Plainedge has the new superstar coach from Wantagh, but graduated all of their talent. Lynbrook and Seaford will go undefeated, dark horse will be MacArthur.

The Wantagh coach is the asst.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you're not from that town, how on earth would you know how many D1 commits they have. That information is not listed anywhere so give it a rest

You can find any recruit on laxpower you dope. Also, our town plays them every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A is a toss up. MC lost a key part of their offense to a torn ACL. Ward Melville has an all star team but the coach doesn't play the girls he should be playing. West Islip's run is over. Both Smithtowns will be good this year and don't count out Northport.

Suffolk B is Eastport-South Manor easily. They will win most games by double digits.

Suffolk C is Mt. Sinai. SWR and BBP just don't have enough to beat them.

Suffolk D. Mattituck over Babylon.

Let me guess, you are from Ward Melville?
Self proclaimed leader in talent.
Then blame the coach for the continued short comings.

6 2017 D1 commits. 8 2018 D1 commits and 2 2019 D1 commits. I would say that's an allstar team. If you can't get out of the first round with that team then the coach is doing something wrong. Try and find another team on the island that has that many commits and can't make the county finals.

Most of those kids won't see the field at the next level...it's not like the team is losing 1 goal games to good teams, they are not getting out of the first round...All i read on YJ thread is,anybody can coach their teams, roll the balls onto the field and sit back...What's the difference here?

Yes dope I know what laxpower is. You cannot look up a hs. Just a college or player. So if you have that kind of time on your hands I suggest getting a life. Our team plays them as well. Doesn't mean I know every kid on the team or where they're commited. So my guess is ur a wm parent on a fishing expedition

Actually, yes, you can search by HS or hometown. So...

Again why would you even take the time to do that. Who cares

And wm is a mix of several towns so seems like a lot of work for something that doesn't have an impact on your life. Unless of course your a wm parent with a kid that warms the bench

I agree west islip run is done

Same goalie since 9th grade. Gets the job done. Let's talk in June.

This may be a transition yr for wi. But their talent pool in the soph and freshman yrs are very good. They will be a force in the next few yrs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you have 15 girls committed to D1 schools and they don't play because the coach likes to play the seniors than yeah I'm blaming the coach. I'm not from that town and I have watched them get eliminated in the playoffs in previous years by lesser teams.

No affiliation to WC - if this is true, does anyone else find it refreshing that the coach is playing the Seniors vs the younger players? I just don't understand the mentality of bringing 7th and 8th grade players up to your varisity team and having half the roster filled with 7th-10h graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you have 15 girls committed to D1 schools and they don't play because the coach likes to play the seniors than yeah I'm blaming the coach. I'm not from that town and I have watched them get eliminated in the playoffs in previous years by lesser teams.

No affiliation to WC - if this is true, does anyone else find it refreshing that the coach is playing the Seniors vs the younger players? I just don't understand the mentality of bringing 7th and 8th grade players up to your varisity team and having half the roster filled with 7th-10h graders.

It's hs, best kids should play no matter grade...with that said, bringing up 7th/8th graders with no business being on the team is dopey.

in our town only club kids get called up from middle school who have parents involved in the booster club. It's political....SHOCKING haha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you have 15 girls committed to D1 schools and they don't play because the coach likes to play the seniors than yeah I'm blaming the coach. I'm not from that town and I have watched them get eliminated in the playoffs in previous years by lesser teams.

No affiliation to WC - if this is true, does anyone else find it refreshing that the coach is playing the Seniors vs the younger players? I just don't understand the mentality of bringing 7th and 8th grade players up to your varisity team and having half the roster filled with 7th-10h graders.

It's hs, best kids should play no matter grade...with that said, bringing up 7th/8th graders with no business being on the team is dopey.

My town is known for having a very strong youth program (until recently) and pulling MS girls up to varsity. Also known for failure to advance in the playoffs and very few graduating seniors. Coaching is part of it, but there's also something to be said for teamwork, camaraderie, etc over throwing together individuals with the best stick skills.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you have 15 girls committed to D1 schools and they don't play because the coach likes to play the seniors than yeah I'm blaming the coach. I'm not from that town and I have watched them get eliminated in the playoffs in previous years by lesser teams.

No affiliation to WC - if this is true, does anyone else find it refreshing that the coach is playing the Seniors vs the younger players? I just don't understand the mentality of bringing 7th and 8th grade players up to your varisity team and having half the roster filled with 7th-10h graders.

It's hs, best kids should play no matter grade...with that said, bringing up 7th/8th graders with no business being on the team is dopey.

ld

My town is known for having a very strong youth program (until recently) and pulling MS girls up to varsity. Also known for failure to advance in the playoffs and very few graduating seniors. Coaching is part of it, but there's also something to be said for teamwork, camaraderie, etc over throwing together individuals with the best stick skills.

I understand the best kids should play, just questioning the mindset that says a 13 year old should be playing on varsity? It used to be 10th grade and on a rare occasion 9th grade? Seems like this has become the new norm today? Doing so, seems to be in the best interest of the coach and not necessarily the players? 7th graders practicing and socializing with much older kids, older kids sitting on the bench while 7th-10th grade kids play.

My daughter is only in elementary school, so i may be way off on my assumptions...just interested in what the collective group thinks?

Age old question do you want your 13 year old hanging out with 18 year olds and seeing the boyfriend and drinking stuff at such an early age? And the other point was about older players dropping out because the team has been given over to under classman. That one is tricky in our mid level school where its done so every year we are begging the girls who have quit to come back so we can fill out the roster, but when they do, they still don't touch the ball. The most successful teams spread the ball around, keep everyone involved and when possible, defer to the seniors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you have 15 girls committed to D1 schools and they don't play because the coach likes to play the seniors than yeah I'm blaming the coach. I'm not from that town and I have watched them get eliminated in the playoffs in previous years by lesser teams.

No affiliation to WC - if this is true, does anyone else find it refreshing that the coach is playing the Seniors vs the younger players? I just don't understand the mentality of bringing 7th and 8th grade players up to your varisity team and having half the roster filled with 7th-10h graders.

It's hs, best kids should play no matter grade...with that said, bringing up 7th/8th graders with no business being on the team is dopey.

ld

My town is known for having a very strong youth program (until recently) and pulling MS girls up to varsity. Also known for failure to advance in the playoffs and very few graduating seniors. Coaching is part of it, but there's also something to be said for teamwork, camaraderie, etc over throwing together individuals with the best stick skills.

I understand the best kids should play, just questioning the mindset that says a 13 year old should be playing on varsity? It used to be 10th grade and on a rare occasion 9th grade? Seems like this has become the new norm today? Doing so, seems to be in the best interest of the coach and not necessarily the players? 7th graders practicing and socializing with much older kids, older kids sitting on the bench while 7th-10th grade kids play.

My daughter is only in elementary school, so i may be way off on my assumptions...just interested in what the collective group thinks?

I don't have any issues at all with the best HS kids playing on varsity. 9th graders mix with 10th, 11th and 12th graders during the school day. That said, my daughter played varsity in 9th grade and had different experiences with different sports. She was also exposed to some things that could've waited a bit longer. Middle Schoolers playing varsity is another thing altogether. Despite what many parents may think, 8th graders (and 9th graders too including my own who while may some contributions during her varsity time as a freshman but may have been better served by being a "star" on JV) that can actually compete and contribute at a varsity level are very few and very few between. Just my $.02 cents.

Nobody in 7/8 grade should be on varsity period. A 12/13 yr old in a locker room with 17/18 yr olds is not good. Maturity level, real life situations totalllly different. They should not be exposed to the conversations regarding drinking sex or anything else. There are some small districts that can't field a team without them. Doesn't mean the kid is a phenomenal player. Sometimes just need a body to fill a roster

[quote=Anonymous]Nobody in 7/8 grade should be on varsity period. A 12/13 yr old in a locker room with 17/18 yr olds is not good. Maturity level, real life situations totalllly different. They should not be exposed to the conversations regarding drinking sex or anything else. There are some small districts that can't field a team without them. Doesn't mean the kid is a phenomenal player. Sometimes just need a body to fill a roster [/quote

For 7th/8th graders to be on varsity, teams must be really bad. If your kid is up on a 2-13 team getting beat by 10+ goals every game, good for you, enjoy it.

This is the "everyone gets a trophy mentality". Best kids play in high school and those are normally the ones that have dedicated themselves to getting better. You can still have good teamwork and camaraderie with a few middle school players that can throw and catch. In a strong program few if any middle school kids will make the cut. For those that do congratulations.

Bringing in a seventh grader is not nearly as common as you all make it seem. I believe there were three last year for all of Long Island. Not sure it was any more than that the year before. Your talking about maybe one tenth of one percent of the players who do this. And for the most part, every kid I have seen do this has been deserving. Mixing it up with the older kids is another issue but coaches know this and act as buffers. Still it is a personal choice for each to make and will only be an option for a very select few.

My two daughters competed on varsity sports while in middle school and it was a great experience in every way. Coaches handled the situation very well. I think people are over-reacting. That being said, some schools do not allow it. In districts that do allow it, if your child is asked to play varsity you can always decline. We all know that will rarely happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody in 7/8 grade should be on varsity period. A 12/13 yr old in a locker room with 17/18 yr olds is not good. Maturity level, real life situations totalllly different. They should not be exposed to the conversations regarding drinking sex or anything else. There are some small districts that can't field a team without them. Doesn't mean the kid is a phenomenal player. Sometimes just need a body to fill a roster

The worst thing is our district where the program has been destroyed by the inability of coaches to have players share the ball so not only do we call up 8th and 9th graders but we call up unqualified players based only on numbers. Its a recipe for disaster and we live it every year. When will coaches learn its a team game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody in 7/8 grade should be on varsity period. A 12/13 yr old in a locker room with 17/18 yr olds is not good. Maturity level, real life situations totalllly different. They should not be exposed to the conversations regarding drinking sex or anything else. There are some small districts that can't field a team without them. Doesn't mean the kid is a phenomenal player. Sometimes just need a body to fill a roster

An 8th grade boy lead all of Long Island last year in goals during the regular season. He played in Suffolk "A" which has some of the largest schools on The Island. He was brought up to varsity, played, started and excelled because of his ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My two daughters competed on varsity sports while in middle school and it was a great experience in every way. Coaches handled the situation very well. I think people are over-reacting. That being said, some schools do not allow it. In districts that do allow it, if your child is asked to play varsity you can always decline. We all know that will rarely happen.

and in districts that Don't allow it, just sue the pants off them....

You're missing my point. I'm not referring to athletic ability. There are plenty of eighth graders that I have seen play they could blow away have to seniors on these teams . I'm referring to maturity. The coach can only be a buffer on somethings these teams have their own group chats and there was a lot of discussion taking place that is not for the years of 13-year-old kid boy or a girl. And yes I speak from experience my daughter play varsity in eighth grade and they were some things I really wish you wouldn't have been in her knowledge until she was at least in 10th grade

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

How did this conversation go from Ward Melville doesn't play the right girls to middle school players on varsity? They have no middle school girls playing up. They have very few 9th graders playing varsity. The problem is the wrong girls are playing because they are seniors. This shouldn't be a problem this year with so many good seniors on the team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

It's a hs girls forum. Not a wm forum. That's how

Parents ruin it for the kids by contacting coaches and getting over involved. Let everyone play where they belong and everyone will get their turn.

And if they don't allow it, sue the pants of them for that too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

8th grader is the best player on LI?? Settle down mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Best player on LI? Are you serious? I would like some of what you're smoking.

Hahahahahaha. She commited where her sister did. Best player. I think not

Where is the SE 8th grader committed to?

Best player on LI , this is either a set up or mrs pumpkin head is off her meds . She is the best player in her house but that's it , that includes the [lacrosse] .Not even close to best player in her age on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best player on LI , this is either a set up or mrs pumpkin head is off her meds . She is the best player in her house but that's it , that includes the [lacrosse] .Not even close to best player in her age on Long Island.

I think WM will grow as the year progresses and hopefully peak at playoff time. Good luck and good health to all.

Teams win Championships and every year when the playoffs are over the successful teams who share the ball are moving on to states. Having various players who are comfortable with having the ball in crunch time is the name of the game. Having one superstar who dominates play only helps the opposition when the playoffs start. Rest assured teams will face guard your best player so you better have 2nd ,3rd and 4th options who can deliver. Develop these options throughout the season and you will be much better off come playoffs. Ride one superstar and you will be making an early exit from the playoffs.

West Islip
Middle Country
Smithtown West
Northport

Class "A" final four.

Middle Country Suffolk "A" County Champions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams win Championships and every year when the playoffs are over the successful teams who share the ball are moving on to states. Having various players who are comfortable with having the ball in crunch time is the name of the game. Having one superstar who dominates play only helps the opposition when the playoffs start. Rest assured teams will face guard your best player so you better have 2nd ,3rd and 4th options who can deliver. Develop these options throughout the season and you will be much better off come playoffs. Ride one superstar and you will be making an early exit from the playoffs.

But I just want my daughters name in Newsday so I can attach it to her college bio page. She is too good for her High School team so we tell her to go to cage every time she has the opportunity even though her teammates are open and we are winning by 15. If your daughter doesn't like it tell her to quit if she cant keep up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

Best player on LI? Are you serious? I would like some of what you're smoking.

What are you smoking? You posted the same quote 4 times. Learn to use the internet before commenting and yes, she is the best player on the Island. Have you watched her play? Do you even know who she is?

Don't need to see her play. There is a lot of difference between best 2021 and best on LI. Hope you meant the prior, if not you are definitely delusional.

She is not even the best on her 2021 YJ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip
Middle Country
Smithtown West
Northport

Class "A" final four.

Middle Country Suffolk "A" County Champions

How i hate that MC gets the pass of... two physical high schools having one team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip
Middle Country
Smithtown West
Northport

Class "A" final four.

Middle Country Suffolk "A" County Champions

How i hate that MC gets the pass of... two physical high schools having one team

MC has been favorite for 3 years now. Haven't been able to get it done we will see

I'll be at SA tryouts satorday to watch this so called infamous girl.

Mc will have a chance this year but I don't think they will get it done again

so you will be creeping around watching the SA tryouts?
If I were the coach I would toss your sorry [lacrosse] out of there..
But please report back to us on your creepy stalking...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll be at SA tryouts satorday to watch this so called infamous girl.

You are really the biggest loser! Pathetic stalker

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is not even the best on her 2021 YJ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is not even the best on her 2021 YJ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is not even the best on her 2021 YJ team

Why don't you obsess about something else and leave this young lady alone . Neither her family or her are seeking any kind of recognition. Someone felt compelled to compliment her and that just opens the doors for criticism. She is 13 years old and does not deserve to be disected by you or anyone else. Give it a rest.

BC comit on YJ will be trying out forSA she doent have what it takes to be on the varsity team yet

BC commit will easily make SA varsity or any other varsity team out there. True middie with great speed and toughness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC comit on YJ will be trying out forSA she doent have what it takes to be on the varsity team yet

I hope this is not the UNC Commit again, Since you have gotten the boot from SA, you seem to be a bit bitter bashing everyone that will have fun trying out without you. it's time to focus more on your spelling and academics rather than bashing and stalking everyone on this forum. although my kid doesn't go to SA, You have shown your colors as not being a team player and a hater.. SAD!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC commit will easily make SA varsity or any other varsity team out there. True middie with great speed and toughness.

Easily? Is it me or is everybody's kid on this website all world?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]BC comit on YJ will be trying out forSA she doent have what it takes to be on the varsity team yet

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hope this is not the UNC Commit again, Since you have gotten the boot from SA, you seem to be a bit bitter bashing everyone that will have fun trying out without you. it's time to focus more on your spelling and academics rather than bashing and stalking everyone on this forum. although my kid doesn't go to SA, You have shown your colors as not being a team player and a hater.. SAD!!!

I agree..At some point dad needs to get serious about the kids behavior, spiraling out of control to say the least. My kid goes to the same school as girl now and in the past week has heard many of the same talk, behavior and lingo towards her old teammates as being posted on this forum. I really think the NCAA D1 school will be eventually be taking an alternate route as too much baggage and trouble.

Cant wait to see what ASU on YJ jones comit brings out to tryouts for SA. Canot say she will be making Varisty as she got kicked from the top team from YJ to jones.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cant wait to see what ASU on YJ jones comit brings out to tryouts for SA. Canot say she will be making Varisty as she got kicked from the top team from YJ to jones.

Yes as a few elevate girls will be trying out for this team to. I miself have played against them and they won't be makig Varsity as they don't have enough speed and skills to compeet at that high level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC comit on YJ will be trying out forSA she doent have what it takes to be on the varsity team yet

Been paying for private lessons from SA coach for years, she will be on the team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll be at SA tryouts satorday to watch this so called infamous girl.

WHY?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC commit will easily make SA varsity or any other varsity team out there. True middie with great speed and toughness.

Is really a defender and will be in college

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cant wait to see what ASU on YJ jones comit brings out to tryouts for SA. Canot say she will be making Varisty as she got kicked from the top team from YJ to jones.

Yes as a few elevate girls will be trying out for this team to. I miself have played against them and they won't be makig Varsity as they don't have enough speed and skills to compeet at that high level

You have what?

Are NY High School lax programs really that bad where they have to rely on 7th, 8th and 9th graders to play Varsity Lacrosse. And is this mainly private schools or public schools? In Maryland rarely do you have a 9th grader on Varsity at a small school but most Varsity Coaches don't care if a freshman is committed to a D1 program, or even a sophomore. They will play players that as a group will win games. Plus most of the schools in our county all have upper class man committed to D1 schools anyway so it's hard for a 9th grader to overtake a Senior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cant wait to see what ASU on YJ jones comit brings out to tryouts for SA. Canot say she will be making Varisty as she got kicked from the top team from YJ to jones.

Yes as a few elevate girls will be trying out for this team to. I miself have played against them and they won't be makig Varsity as they don't have enough speed and skills to compeet at that high level

You have what?

That's just horrible!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are NY High School lax programs really that bad where they have to rely on 7th, 8th and 9th graders to play Varsity Lacrosse. And is this mainly private schools or public schools? In Maryland rarely do you have a 9th grader on Varsity at a small school but most Varsity Coaches don't care if a freshman is committed to a D1 program, or even a sophomore. They will play players that as a group will win games. Plus most of the schools in our county all have upper class man committed to D1 schools anyway so it's hard for a 9th grader to overtake a Senior.

The reality is most of the schools that have any 7/8 graders on them are the weaker teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are NY High School lax programs really that bad where they have to rely on 7th, 8th and 9th graders to play Varsity Lacrosse. And is this mainly private schools or public schools? In Maryland rarely do you have a 9th grader on Varsity at a small school but most Varsity Coaches don't care if a freshman is committed to a D1 program, or even a sophomore. They will play players that as a group will win games. Plus most of the schools in our county all have upper class man committed to D1 schools anyway so it's hard for a 9th grader to overtake a Senior.

Yes NY Schools must be that bad Just look at Nike National Girls Top 25 Teams they only have 8 ranked in the Top 25.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is not even the best on her 2021 YJ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is not even the best on her 2021 YJ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is not even the best on her 2021 YJ team

Why don't you obsess about something else and leave this young lady alone . Neither her family or her are seeking any kind of recognition. Someone felt compelled to compliment her and that just opens the doors for criticism. She is 13 years old and does not deserve to be disected by you or anyone else. Give it a rest.

You are correct, I was the original poster that complimented her. I should have known better. She's a fantastic kid and a great lacrosse player, but people feel compelled to insult a 13 year old. My mistake, positive posts are usually met by the "miserables" that stalk this site. Good luck to her and SE.

Last couple of years has a lot of LI Club girls going to programs just starting up. More scholarship money to be had, more playing time but very little chance for national success. Most of the big time players keep going to the big time programs where they know the competition to get on the field is going to be fierce but they are going to be part of the national conversation every year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are NY High School lax programs really that bad where they have to rely on 7th, 8th and 9th graders to play Varsity Lacrosse. And is this mainly private schools or public schools? In Maryland rarely do you have a 9th grader on Varsity at a small school but most Varsity Coaches don't care if a freshman is committed to a D1 program, or even a sophomore. They will play players that as a group will win games. Plus most of the schools in our county all have upper class man committed to D1 schools anyway so it's hard for a 9th grader to overtake a Senior.

Yes NY Schools must be that bad Just look at Nike National Girls Top 25 Teams they only have 8 ranked in the Top 25.

Those 8 teams don't have any middle schoolers on them. Weaker programs bring up 7/8 graders to help their awful varsity and JV programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are NY High School lax programs really that bad where they have to rely on 7th, 8th and 9th graders to play Varsity Lacrosse. And is this mainly private schools or public schools? In Maryland rarely do you have a 9th grader on Varsity at a small school but most Varsity Coaches don't care if a freshman is committed to a D1 program, or even a sophomore. They will play players that as a group will win games. Plus most of the schools in our county all have upper class man committed to D1 schools anyway so it's hard for a 9th grader to overtake a Senior.

Yes NY Schools must be that bad Just look at Nike National Girls Top 25 Teams they only have 8 ranked in the Top 25.

Those 8 teams don't have any middle schoolers on them. Weaker programs bring up 7/8 graders to help their awful varsity and JV programs.

Amen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Smithtown East is going to have two eighth graders this year. Both are exceptional players and kids from great families. I think you need to decide if your daughter, should she be called on to play varsity in MS, is mature enough to handle the things she will see and hear as a 13/14 year old. Make sure you have an open dialogue with her and with the coach and perhaps a teammate or two that can be her mentor. They need to be prepared. Good luck to all.

Like one of the previous posters stated, Smithtown East weak program...those kids aren't getting pulled up in good programs...Has Smithtown East ever won anything?

The two girls getting moved up at SE would start on any varsity team on LI, including the one your daughter plays on. One has committed, the other probably will shortly. The committed one is the best 2021 around an may be the best player on LI already. SE will begin to win very shortly, a lot of talent coming up in the pipeline.

I just wanted to compliment a kid i don't really know...just because i'm a nice person. Stop

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Defending national champ, mcdonogh vs defending md state champ Glenelg this Thursday. It is just a scrimmage but word is McDonough gets beat this year. Early test of that rumor.

My daughter came home with a helmet this week. Guess we'll find out soon enough what happens when one team has them and the other doesn't.

I doubt a high school girl wrote this post.

Yyyy

ESM won states with three 8th graders on the team. They are not a weak team and have consistently brought up 7th & 8th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ESM won states with three 8th graders on the team. They are not a weak team and have consistently brought up 7th & 8th graders.

That year they had the all world goalie,real good upper classmen,terrible conference...stars lined up for them that year...how did last year go? got smoked by GC who had a few non playing 9th graders on the team...the years when they got out of that terrible conference, they got crushed by GC and Manhasset, who we know don't have even 9th graders playing. ESM got lucky one year and now they are a strong program bringing up 7th/8th graders...Must be one of those past 8th grade parents or future 7th/8th grade parents posting this nonsense...Get over yourself.

What's left for West Islip is a goalie who for the last three years had a strong defense in front of her making her job that much easier. Last year they all graduated. So this year she will have her work cut out for her. And I'm not sure if they have anybody left that can score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ESM won states with three 8th graders on the team. They are not a weak team and have consistently brought up 7th & 8th graders.

That year they had the all world goalie,real good upper classmen,terrible conference...stars lined up for them that year...how did last year go? got smoked by GC who had a few non playing 9th graders on the team...the years when they got out of that terrible conference, they got crushed by GC and Manhasset, who we know don't have even 9th graders playing. ESM got lucky one year and now they are a strong program bringing up 7th/8th graders...Must be one of those past 8th grade parents or future 7th/8th grade parents posting this nonsense...Get over yourself.

You really are ignorant. The only good teams on Long Island that do not have a history of bringing up middle school kids are GC and Manhasset .Mount Sinai who has probably been the most successful
Long Island team over the last 5 years consistently brings up middle school players. Talk about getting over yourself stop preaching that the only way to do things is the GC or Manhasset way you sound like the pompous [lacrosse] most people probably think you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's left for West Islip is a goalie who for the last three years had a strong defense in front of her making her job that much easier. Last year they all graduated. So this year she will have her work cut out for her. And I'm not sure if they have anybody left that can score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip will have a target on their back. As they should. Only Suffolk A team to go to Cortland for the last 3 years. Their a green team having graduated a huge amount of talent. What's left? May be a couple of yrs to regroup

In the competitive games "coaching" plays a major role. Many HS game are so lopsided that it does not matter who the coach is but when the stronger teams compete it is "coaching" more time than not that is the deciding factor.

There are 22 Teams in "Suffolk I". On a good year there might be 6 teams with depth of talent. Only 2 or 3 (maybe 4) of those coaches will be able to win come playoff time. It is a combination of players and coaching and West Islip has proven that they have had both.

Final Four for 2017 in Suffolk I:

Middle Country
Northport
Smithtown West
West Islip

Middle Country winning .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ESM won states with three 8th graders on the team. They are not a weak team and have consistently brought up 7th & 8th graders.

That year they had the all world goalie,real good upper classmen,terrible conference...stars lined up for them that year...how did last year go? got smoked by GC who had a few non playing 9th graders on the team...the years when they got out of that terrible conference, they got crushed by GC and Manhasset, who we know don't have even 9th graders playing. ESM got lucky one year and now they are a strong program bringing up 7th/8th graders...Must be one of those past 8th grade parents or future 7th/8th grade parents posting this nonsense...Get over yourself.

You really are ignorant. The only good teams on Long Island that do not have a history of bringing up middle school kids are GC and Manhasset .Mount Sinai who has probably been the most successful
Long Island team over the last 5 years consistently brings up middle school players. Talk about getting over yourself stop preaching that the only way to do things is the GC or Manhasset way you sound like the pompous [lacrosse] most people probably think you are.

You didnt answer my question, how did last year go? one more for you, if ESM was in conf C, would they have even made the semis? Lets not compare ESM to Mount Sinai, that makes you sound very ignorant.

Mt Sinai is a joke!

How are SA girl frshman truouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are SA girl frshman truouts?

Who cares?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are SA girl frshman truouts?

Teriblr only a handfull of freshman with talent

The SA freshman team is going to be a disaster. From my own daughter, I've heard that not many have the skill to play. Only a few that are good for each position. There are only two good midfielders and three attackers. And quite frankly, a team cannot rely on five players to win games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are SA girl frshman truouts?

This is a fishing expedition here. You don't care one bit about the freshman team, you're looking for the gossip on one particulAR girl. She's gone before she ever played a shift

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are SA girl frshman truouts?

This is a fishing expedition here. You don't care one bit about the freshman team, you're looking for the gossip on one particulAR girl. She's gone before she ever played a shift

She may be gone, but she sure does visit this page and the boys page frequently. telling lies and stirring up trouble.

It's funny, we have never ever heard this freshman or any other lacrosse team at SA being terrible until one trouble making kid, got dismissed and now bashes the team and players every day. We all get it, but it's time for you to move on, I guess not much to look forward to on that crappy school team so you bash others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The SA freshman team is going to be a disaster. From my own daughter, I've heard that not many have the skill to play. Only a few that are good for each position. There are only two good midfielders and three attackers. And quite frankly, a team cannot rely on five players to win games.

I thought there are a bunch of good freshman, already committed. Are they allowed to play JV or Varsity or do they have to play freshman team?

Only a few players are going to shine on the freshman team. And that just might be the commits, the elevate girls, the legacy girls, the club hopper, and the YJ one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a few players are going to shine on the freshman team. And that just might be the commits, the elevate girls, the legacy girls, the club hopper, and the YJ one.

Someone's Jealous? Sounds like all the girls you previously insulted. I actually feel very sad for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The SA freshman team is going to be a disaster. From my own daughter, I've heard that not many have the skill to play. Only a few that are good for each position. There are only two good midfielders and three attackers. And quite frankly, a team cannot rely on five players to win games.

I thought there are a bunch of good freshman, already committed. Are they allowed to play JV or Varsity or do they have to play freshman team?

Don't take the bait and definitely don't pay any of this garbage any attention, poster and his "committed" kid are just mad and going on a rampage posting crap to discredit team/girls because his kid got dismissed without a second thought and their egos are hurt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The SA freshman team is going to be a disaster. From my own daughter, I've heard that not many have the skill to play. Only a few that are good for each position. There are only two good midfielders and three attackers. And quite frankly, a team cannot rely on five players to win games.

I thought there are a bunch of good freshman, already committed. Are they allowed to play JV or Varsity or do they have to play freshman team?

Don't take the bait and definitely don't pay any of this garbage any attention, poster and his "committed" kid are just mad and going on a rampage posting crap to discredit team/girls because his kid got dismissed without a second thought and their egos are hurt.

Start a SA thread, besides 3 or 4 SA people, nobody could give a crap about them....especially freshman team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are SA girl frshman truouts?

This is a fishing expedition here. You don't care one bit about the freshman team, you're looking for the gossip on one particulAR girl. She's gone before she ever played a shift

She may be gone, but she sure does visit this page and the boys page frequently. telling lies and stirring up trouble.

The kid your talking about wasn't playing freshman anything and if she was still there she would be starting on varsity

UNC jumped the gun on this one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UNC jumped the gun on this one.

beauty of a verbal. Just that. Not binding. Wouldn't be the first to pull

ESM's leading scorer at the time got njured right before playoffs who also happens to be one of the 8th graders that got pulled up.

what do you expect recruiting 12 year olds?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UNC jumped the gun on this one.

beauty of a verbal. Just that. Not binding. Wouldn't be the first to pull

What club she play for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ESM's leading scorer at the time got njured right before playoffs who also happens to be one of the 8th graders that got pulled up.

Oh ok, makes sense...So she didn't play when they lost to Mattituck, Bayport, Mt Sinai and SWR?

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

They should, kid is by far one of the top kids in the country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

I do not know what club she plays for. That's why I asked. Anyone?

YJ. Kiss up to a 14 year old. Moron

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

She plays YJ A team.. and those are not mistakes. Kid is out of control to say the least. Can possibly be a good player in college, but she would actually have to get in to college first and that's the kicker, more money should be spent on tutors instead of lax to bring her up speed as she is nowhere near majority students academically. SA coach dodged a bullet with her as we all are witnessing with this public meltdown of being dismissed from a school where she thought she would reign supreme. There's a lot happening behind the scenes where kid is personally bad mouthing SA players and it seems they can't get a grasp on the behavior. This kid will not make it to UNC and this looks terrible on UNC as this girls reputation is terrible. I agree with the poster above that said, most kids in this recruiting age will avoid UNC because of this.

Good luck at tryouts running those shuttles this week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

I do not know what club she plays for. That's why I asked. Anyone?

Wave

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

They should, kid is by far one of the top kids in the country

YAWN!! thanks kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

She plays YJ A team.. and those are not mistakes. Kid is out of control to say the least. Can possibly be a good player in college, but she would actually have to get in to college first and that's the kicker, more money should be spent on tutors instead of lax to bring her up speed as she is nowhere near majority students academically. SA coach dodged a bullet with her as we all are witnessing with this public meltdown of being dismissed from a school where she thought she would reign supreme. There's a lot happening behind the scenes where kid is personally bad mouthing SA players and it seems they can't get a grasp on the behavior. This kid will not make it to UNC and this looks terrible on UNC as this girls reputation is terrible. I agree with the poster above that said, most kids in this recruiting age will avoid UNC because of this.

Never knew SA academics standards were so high...can possibly be a good player in college? she runs circles around those other 9th graders...looks terrible on UNC? the same UNC that was giving out "A"s to kids not attending classes...Yup, i can see it now. Coach Levy offers a kid a scholarship, kid says no thanks coach, dont want to play with so and so...keep dreaming.

You do know this kid went to another school before SA where her grades and behavior were just as bad right?, running circles? not so sure about that.. Kid does not have the body structure or weight as your average or on age 9th grader and throws body weight around to dominate or intimidate. No need to argue, lets revisit this in 2019 when it's signing day and we shall see. Cuse didn't want her, neither did quite a few other D1 schools. not too good a reputation from TG also, those parents were happy to see her go.and as you can see, her leaving did not affect TG at all. They did very well, got along well with each other and had a blast without her. hopefully by the end of the season those Pequa parents can say the same.

Listen the kids a very good player. But her attitude is atrocious the way she speaks to her father at the coaches the other players she thinks she is the end-all be-all. But the second you slap her face going on her she doesn't do anything she gets shut down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

She plays YJ A team.. and those are not mistakes. Kid is out of control to say the least. Can possibly be a good player in college, but she would actually have to get in to college first and that's the kicker, more money should be spent on tutors instead of lax to bring her up speed as she is nowhere near majority students academically. SA coach dodged a bullet with her as we all are witnessing with this public meltdown of being dismissed from a school where she thought she would reign supreme. There's a lot happening behind the scenes where kid is personally bad mouthing SA players and it seems they can't get a grasp on the behavior. This kid will not make it to UNC and this looks terrible on UNC as this girls reputation is terrible. I agree with the poster above that said, most kids in this recruiting age will avoid UNC because of this.

Never knew SA academics standards were so high...can possibly be a good player in college? she runs circles around those other 9th graders...looks terrible on UNC? the same UNC that was giving out "A"s to kids not attending classes...Yup, i can see it now. Coach Levy offers a kid a scholarship, kid says no thanks coach, dont want to play with so and so...keep dreaming.

You really are a dope or your kid was not highly recruited. Yes the top players are offered money from multiple schools and have many options. Those top kids may very well elect to take a pass on UNC if they realize that living daily with a headache is not worth the drama. It had an impact on my daughters decision years ago , why go play with a player who has a terrible reputation when you have other options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ESM's leading scorer at the time got njured right before playoffs who also happens to be one of the 8th graders that got pulled up.

Oh ok, makes sense...So she didn't play when they lost to Mattituck, Bayport, Mt Sinai and SWR?

You got me. You're right. She's a terrible player and so is the whole ESM team.

who has the Nassau divisions for the regular season and then the playoffs. thanks

Me and my daughters have been biting at the bit to get this season going.We prepared all winter by buying a whistle, and me running around the house blowing it at my daughters constantly, but i made sure i did not get to close. If i did i waved my hand in front of my face and blew the whistle louder. After months of this, i think we are ready for the upcoming season. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

She plays YJ A team.. and those are not mistakes. Kid is out of control to say the least. Can possibly be a good player in college, but she would actually have to get in to college first and that's the kicker, more money should be spent on tutors instead of lax to bring her up speed as she is nowhere near majority students academically. SA coach dodged a bullet with her as we all are witnessing with this public meltdown of being dismissed from a school where she thought she would reign supreme. There's a lot happening behind the scenes where kid is personally bad mouthing SA players and it seems they can't get a grasp on the behavior. This kid will not make it to UNC and this looks terrible on UNC as this girls reputation is terrible. I agree with the poster above that said, most kids in this recruiting age will avoid UNC because of this.

Never knew SA academics standards were so high...can possibly be a good player in college? she runs circles around those other 9th graders...looks terrible on UNC? the same UNC that was giving out "A"s to kids not attending classes...Yup, i can see it now. Coach Levy offers a kid a scholarship, kid says no thanks coach, dont want to play with so and so...keep dreaming.

You do know this kid went to another school before SA where her grades and behavior were just as bad right?, running circles? not so sure about that.. Kid does not have the body structure or weight as your average or on age 9th grader and throws body weight around to dominate or intimidate. No need to argue, lets revisit this in 2019 when it's signing day and we shall see. Cuse didn't want her, neither did quite a few other D1 schools. not too good a reputation from TG also, those parents were happy to see her go.and as you can see, her leaving did not affect TG at all. They did very well, got along well with each other and had a blast without her. hopefully by the end of the season those Pequa parents can say the same.

TG is part of reason she is who she is, SS as a role model? same spoiled petulant child who was never told no, they did everything they could for her and were devastated when she left, don't let BS or SS tell you anything different, they were parading her all over the country as the #1 recruit in the age group. Team didn't like her because SS let her do whatever she wanted to and the ball was always in her stick to insure wins in close games or blowouts. Age group is full of backstabbers on both clubs, she was one of many who the knives were out for on the sidelines

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You know what club she plays for. Club had nothing to do with her mistakes. Everyone kissing up to her including SA coach.

She plays YJ A team.. and those are not mistakes. Kid is out of control to say the least. Can possibly be a good player in college, but she would actually have to get in to college first and that's the kicker, more money should be spent on tutors instead of lax to bring her up speed as she is nowhere near majority students academically. SA coach dodged a bullet with her as we all are witnessing with this public meltdown of being dismissed from a school where she thought she would reign supreme. There's a lot happening behind the scenes where kid is personally bad mouthing SA players and it seems they can't get a grasp on the behavior. This kid will not make it to UNC and this looks terrible on UNC as this girls reputation is terrible. I agree with the poster above that said, most kids in this recruiting age will avoid UNC because of this.

Never knew SA academics standards were so high...can possibly be a good player in college? she runs circles around those other 9th graders...looks terrible on UNC? the same UNC that was giving out "A"s to kids not attending classes...Yup, i can see it now. Coach Levy offers a kid a scholarship, kid says no thanks coach, dont want to play with so and so...keep dreaming.

You do know this kid went to another school before SA where her grades and behavior were just as bad right?, running circles? not so sure about that.. Kid does not have the body structure or weight as your average or on age 9th grader and throws body weight around to dominate or intimidate. No need to argue, lets revisit this in 2019 when it's signing day and we shall see. Cuse didn't want her, neither did quite a few other D1 schools. not too good a reputation from TG also, those parents were happy to see her go.and as you can see, her leaving did not affect TG at all. They did very well, got along well with each other and had a blast without her. hopefully by the end of the season those Pequa parents can say the same.

TG is part of reason she is who she is, SS as a role model? same spoiled petulant child who was never told no, they did everything they could for her and were devastated when she left, don't let BS or SS tell you anything different, they were parading her all over the country as the #1 recruit in the age group. Team didn't like her because SS let her do whatever she wanted to and the ball was always in her stick to insure wins in close games or blowouts. Age group is full of backstabbers on both clubs, she was one of many who the knives were out for on the sidelines

Club is a business its why carol has 4 teams in some age groups with the 4th team unable to catch or throw. Just like the Bull Shi*** national championship they claim they win every year when MD doesn't show to play. If a problem child can play and help the stature of the program there will always be a spot for her. She was stolen away with open arms

I've been watching this girl for years. She's been on varsity since 7th grade. She is a very good player. Yes she has an attitude that must be worked on and fixed, however you're just jealous parents. Let the kid be.

There is really nothing after you get out of the top division in Nassau.

GC, Port, Mass, Fdale, Syosset, N Shore, CSH, Manhasset, Wantagh

Division, Jericho, Hewlett, Roslyn, Floral, Clarke, EM, Hicks, Bethpage, Baldwin

Calhoun, SS, Oceanside, LV, McArthur, Seaford, PE, Lyn, Carle Place

Friends, Plainview, Mepham, Bellmore, Freeport, Elmont, IT, Herricks, Carey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The SA freshman team is going to be a disaster. From my own daughter, I've heard that not many have the skill to play. Only a few that are good for each position. There are only two good midfielders and three attackers. And quite frankly, a team cannot rely on five players to win games.

I thought there are a bunch of good freshman, already committed. Are they allowed to play JV or Varsity or do they have to play freshman team?

Don't take the bait and definitely don't pay any of this garbage any attention, poster and his "committed" kid are just mad and going on a rampage posting crap to discredit team/girls because his kid got dismissed without a second thought and their egos are hurt.

Start a SA thread, besides 3 or 4 SA people, nobody could give a crap about them....especially freshman team

Please start a SA thread! I'm sure it will be twice as entertaining as the Chaminade thread

Quick question...what is the deal with helmets? Our HS team in Suffolk was issued them by the school. Are they required now?

No doubt infamous girl and BC commit will be on JV for SA. Infamous girl has tremendous speed and skills as well as BC commit. They're going to both shine out only as freshman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick question...what is the deal with helmets? Our HS team in Suffolk was issued them by the school. Are they required now?

Not required. Dumb idea. Waste of money!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No doubt infamous girl and BC commit will be on JV for SA. Infamous girl has tremendous speed and skills as well as BC commit. They're going to both shine out only as freshman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No doubt infamous girl and BC commit will be on JV for SA. Infamous girl has tremendous speed and skills as well as BC commit. They're going to both shine out only as freshman

Why are you so sure about that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick question...what is the deal with helmets? Our HS team in Suffolk was issued them by the school. Are they required now?

They aren't mandatory yet. Every school has the choice to wear them or not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick question...what is the deal with helmets? Our HS team in Suffolk was issued them by the school. Are they required now?

They aren't mandatory yet. Every school has the choice to wear them or not

Thanks, I'm undecided if it is a good idea. But its out of our hands I guess. I think it will just make the game more physical, and girls can get away with more charging, ect. Not wanting to see anyone ever get hurt, but there is a consequence now of pain when a girl just puts her head down and charges to the cage. I think its more of a ref issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick question...what is the deal with helmets? Our HS team in Suffolk was issued them by the school. Are they required now?

Not required. Dumb idea. Waste of money!

Why exactly is it a dumb idea? If people realize it does not prevent concussions but feel it will prevent ball or stick contact to a child's head, how is that bad? Older girls at the elite college level are not going to take to it initially. The cost is not much more than higher end goggles offered by Cascade and other companies. It should be a parent or player choice.

Well that didn't take long, 3 days in, and our coach has started with get the ball to Shannon BS. I guess we aren't working on team offense this pre-season and my guess is we aren't the only team.

These HS coaches are ruining this team game but Shannon will be in Newsday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that didn't take long, 3 days in, and our coach has started with get the ball to Shannon BS. I guess we aren't working on team offense this pre-season and my guess is we aren't the only team.

These HS coaches are ruining this team game but Shannon will be in Newsday

Have you been going to practice? Kind of creepy, bet the coach loves having you around.

Yeah, daughter must love the fact that Dad stands outside the fence with binoculars on scoping out practice...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, daughter must love the fact that Dad stands outside the fence with binoculars on scoping out practice...

Or maybe the daughter came home and said so? just sayin

possibly true..but using "our" & "we" when describing daughters HS team is pretty creepy in its own way...
same guy who calls WFAN and talks about "we" and his sports teams....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, daughter must love the fact that Dad stands outside the fence with binoculars on scoping out practice...

Or maybe the daughter came home and said so? just sayin

The guys making it creepy are the travel dads. Don't be fooled. 98% of the team wants the ball passed around, the travel dads just want the stats for their daughters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, daughter must love the fact that Dad stands outside the fence with binoculars on scoping out practice...

Or maybe the daughter came home and said so? just sayin

So daughter came home whining about not getting the ball after 3 days of PRACTICE and Daddy ran to BOTC to whine about it in public - guess we know where she gets if from.

Travel Lax is the most selfish sport there is...and unfortunately, coaches don't espouse teamwork....because most are college age kids who have no clue how to coach a team..but boy they are great at stick tricks and joshing with the girls..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that didn't take long, 3 days in, and our coach has started with get the ball to Shannon BS. I guess we aren't working on team offense this pre-season and my guess is we aren't the only team.

These HS coaches are ruining this team game but Shannon will be in Newsday

Are you singling out a player or is that just the moniker you have given to a ball hog? Just remember how successful this strategy has been for the last 3 years. It works against all of the teams that won't make the playoffs. In the playoffs she will be face guarded and shut out once again. One man teams are the first to be eliminated in the playoffs. Teams with numerous options are the ones that are successful.

Why exactly is it a dumb idea? If people realize it does not prevent concussions but feel it will prevent ball or stick contact to a child's head, how is that bad? Older girls at the elite college level are not going to take to it initially. The cost is not much more than higher end goggles offered by Cascade and other companies. It should be a parent or player choice.

I personally believe the game is fine without helmets. However it should not be a player or team choice, helmets should either be mandatory or not. Helmets on one team creates a competitive advantage. If I was a Coach or AD my team would not be playing against a team with helmets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel Lax is the most selfish sport there is...and unfortunately, coaches don't espouse teamwork....because most are college age kids who have no clue how to coach a team..but boy they are great at stick tricks and joshing with the girls..

Please enlighten us. What travel/AAU etc sport instills teamwork.

well..i look at it this way..if a kid on any AAU team grabbed a rebound and dribbled the length of the court for a shot or layup, bypassing open teammates, & that w/b sort of frowned upon and discouraged. Get away with it once and maybe no big deal....in travel lax, it happens constantly and folks cheer that selfish act..also, generally, in AAU its an adult coaching the team, so they may/may not have a more disciplined approach to coaching..not saying all, but seems to be case.
And, yes, my daughter plays AAU as well...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why exactly is it a dumb idea? If people realize it does not prevent concussions but feel it will prevent ball or stick contact to a child's head, how is that bad? Older girls at the elite college level are not going to take to it initially. The cost is not much more than higher end goggles offered by Cascade and other companies. It should be a parent or player choice.

I personally believe the game is fine without helmets. However it should not be a player or team choice, helmets should either be mandatory or not. Helmets on one team creates a competitive advantage. If I was a Coach or AD my team would not be playing against a team with helmets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why exactly is it a dumb idea? If people realize it does not prevent concussions but feel it will prevent ball or stick contact to a child's head, how is that bad? Older girls at the elite college level are not going to take to it initially. The cost is not much more than higher end goggles offered by Cascade and other companies. It should be a parent or player choice.

I personally believe the game is fine without helmets. However it should not be a player or team choice, helmets should either be mandatory or not. Helmets on one team creates a competitive advantage. If I was a Coach or AD my team would not be playing against a team with helmets

Helmets need to be either mandatory or completely not allowed. Who cares which they choose, but you can't have it both ways. Girls with helmets should not allowed to be to play against girls without helmets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

well..i look at it this way..if a kid on any AAU team grabbed a rebound and dribbled the length of the court for a shot or layup, bypassing open teammates, & that w/b sort of frowned upon and discouraged. Get away with it once and maybe no big deal....in travel lax, it happens constantly and folks cheer that selfish act..also, generally, in AAU its an adult coaching the team, so they may/may not have a more disciplined approach to coaching..not saying all, but seems to be case.
And, yes, my daughter plays AAU as well...

Respectfully disagree. There are just as many over dribbling" ball hogs" and "chuckers" shooting in basketball as" going to goal" girls in lax. As far as coaching I have seen dreadful coaching antics with AAU/travel basketball coaches. I think when blanket statements are made they tend to be false and I think the original statement that "lax is the most selfish sport there is" is just plain stupid and requires a reply.

And don't forget the soccer players who try to dribble through 3 defenders. Ball hogs are ball hogs and permeate all sports.

what's viewed as ball hog in other sports is sometimes more obvious and a sign of selfishness..in lax its cheered by dopes on sidelines

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why exactly is it a dumb idea? If people realize it does not prevent concussions but feel it will prevent ball or stick contact to a child's head, how is that bad? Older girls at the elite college level are not going to take to it initially. The cost is not much more than higher end goggles offered by Cascade and other companies. It should be a parent or player choice.

I personally believe the game is fine without helmets. However it should not be a player or team choice, helmets should either be mandatory or not. Helmets on one team creates a competitive advantage. If I was a Coach or AD my team would not be playing against a team with helmets

You do realize that forms of soft headgear have been available for a few years. Now that they resemble "helmets" and they are more readily available, people have begun to take notice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what's viewed as ball hog in other sports is sometimes more obvious and a sign of selfishness..in lax its cheered by dopes on sidelines

Then you haven't been on as many sidelines as I have. The ball hogs' parents are ALWAYS encouraging them to go to goal, go to the basket, go to the net. It's pretty obvious to all. And if the kid is a multisport player, you generally see it across all sports.

People definitely passed on UNC because of her. Fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People definitely passed on UNC because of her. Fact

People like that seem pretty mentally weak...being that soft, they wouldn't have seen the field anyway.

or smart

there's a sport for people that are very fast and have a limited hand/eye coordination skill set - it's called track & field

or know that they couldn't compete at her level

McDonough unbeatable. Look out for Duke in two years when 6'4" girl shows up on campus. Wins 90% of draws. She is unstoppable. No I'm not her dad.

I think you're right - they didn't want to compete at her "level"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or know that they couldn't compete at her level

Yeah that's why no one else from LI wants to be on her team because no one else can compete on her level . Has nothing to do with her attitude , must be the same reason she was asked to leave school because the school thought no one else could possibly keep up .

Duke will still manage a 3rd place finish in the ACC regardless of how much talent they haul in..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

well..i look at it this way..if a kid on any AAU team grabbed a rebound and dribbled the length of the court for a shot or layup, bypassing open teammates, & that w/b sort of frowned upon and discouraged. Get away with it once and maybe no big deal....in travel lax, it happens constantly and folks cheer that selfish act..also, generally, in AAU its an adult coaching the team, so they may/may not have a more disciplined approach to coaching..not saying all, but seems to be case.
And, yes, my daughter plays AAU as well...

Respectfully disagree. There are just as many over dribbling" ball hogs" and "chuckers" shooting in basketball as" going to goal" girls in lax. As far as coaching I have seen dreadful coaching antics with AAU/travel basketball coaches. I think when blanket statements are made they tend to be false and I think the original statement that "lax is the most selfish sport there is" is just plain stupid and requires a reply.

Original poster is spot on. Go to cage, defended reset, go to cage, defended reset, go to cage defended reset. Only in lacrosse what a joke! Just wait in about 2 weeks we will see the same culprits of players and the coaches that allow it for girls scoring 10 when the team is up by 15 and beating up on weak opponents. I blame the coaches more than the girls. But the parents tell their daughters to go get theirs. Lacrosse is by far the most selfish game played

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonough unbeatable. Look out for Duke in two years when 6'4" girl shows up on campus. Wins 90% of draws. She is unstoppable. No I'm not her dad.

Sounds like her teammate is even better:
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/preseason-all-ilwomen-team-andie-aldave/48628

Truth. I heard, myself, first-hand, the parent of one of the most highly-recognized players in HS and now college, defend her daughter running up the score by saying, "It's her turn." I like the parents a lot but I did not like that sentiment one bit.

I also shared the sidelines with the parents of another player who was all about her stats. It made me insane because her daughter got the numbers but literally could not use her non-dominant hand and the kid would ask my kid to explain every play to her after the coach went over it because she didn't get it. She "didn't get" passing either. I'm very glad that's over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or know that they couldn't compete at her level

There are many that can compete at the same level. Last time I checked lax is a team sport requiring more than 1 player. The kid has amazing lax skill, there is no denying that. However, a lot more goes into be a great leader and a good teammate. This is where she lacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duke will still manage a 3rd place finish in the ACC regardless of how much talent they haul in..

4th if they're lucky...lost to ND and VA Tech already.

This is truly amazing, "No one can't compete with her" funny as a lot of the best talent on LI really don't brag about it. Here is short list of where you can find some of the really great talents beside the self proclaimed one and only. WI,WB,NP,ESH, GC, SA, Man, my opinion only.

This tunnel vision to the goal thing does not work with any consistency against quality HS defenses and it does not work in college.

"Clear everyone out, start flat-footed from the 12, run into three defenders, and get called for a charge" girl should be shut down fast by a good staff.

By ninth grade, well-coached girls who have played real opponents in club shouldn't be doing this with any consistency. She will play a much more attractive brand of lacrosse if she challenges with her eyes up and drop an assists to an open teammate after drawing the slides... Do this against a quality opponent and you will catch the attention of college coaches.

Now if your club "A" team is so desperate for Facebook post material that they shift down to a B bracket to win a tournament OR if your high school is playing an overmatched opponent and your girls can rack up some stats along the way against weak defenses... whatever makes you feel good about yourself, I guess. Hope daddy has the camera out for the highlight reel... but it's fools gold.

The girl is a jr in high school so I was referring to two years from now. Not this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is truly amazing, "No one can't compete with her" funny as a lot of the best talent on LI really don't brag about it. Here is short list of where you can find some of the really great talents beside the self proclaimed one and only. WI,WB,NP,ESH, GC, SA, Man, my opinion only.

WB? You put that team in with the rest of those others? They will be terrible this year. Their All Americans are gone. They haven't run a real offense since before SS was there. I assume if BS is involved this year, it won't this year either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is truly amazing, "No one can't compete with her" funny as a lot of the best talent on LI really don't brag about it. Here is short list of where you can find some of the really great talents beside the self proclaimed one and only. WI,WB,NP,ESH, GC, SA, Man, my opinion only.

Stop being so silly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is truly amazing, "No one can't compete with her" funny as a lot of the best talent on LI really don't brag about it. Here is short list of where you can find some of the really great talents beside the self proclaimed one and only. WI,WB,NP,ESH, GC, SA, Man, my opinion only.

WB? You put that team in with the rest of those others? They will be terrible this year. Their All Americans are gone. They haven't run a real offense since before SS was there. I assume if BS is involved this year, it won't this year either.

Wont be BS involved.... but will be the Board member teacher who will be involved up to his eyeballs.

Have you seen wb sophs play. Better than most seniors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is truly amazing, "No one can't compete with her" funny as a lot of the best talent on LI really don't brag about it. Here is short list of where you can find some of the really great talents beside the self proclaimed one and only. WI,WB,NP,ESH, GC, SA, Man, my opinion only.

there's not a 2020 on that list that comes close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is truly amazing, "No one can't compete with her" funny as a lot of the best talent on LI really don't brag about it. Here is short list of where you can find some of the really great talents beside the self proclaimed one and only. WI,WB,NP,ESH, GC, SA, Man, my opinion only.

WB? You put that team in with the rest of those others? They will be terrible this year. Their All Americans are gone. They haven't run a real offense since before SS was there. I assume if BS is involved this year, it won't this year either.

Wont be BS involved.... but will be the Board member teacher who will be involved up to his eyeballs.

The board member you're referring to is not involved at all. BS is an assistant coach so he will be involved.

Again. Throw a face guard on her and she's nothing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have you seen wb sophs play. Better than most seniors

Step away from the bottle...

but its soon gooood. and I'm thirsty

Any word on what the SA teams are looking like?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on what the SA teams are looking like?

Word is all the teams will go undefeated and beat every team by 15 goals. We're very excited for the season to commence.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This tunnel vision to the goal thing does not work with any consistency against quality HS defenses and it does not work in college.

"Clear everyone out, start flat-footed from the 12, run into three defenders, and get called for a charge" girl should be shut down fast by a good staff.

By ninth grade, well-coached girls who have played real opponents in club shouldn't be doing this with any consistency. She will play a much more attractive brand of lacrosse if she challenges with her eyes up and drop an assists to an open teammate after drawing the slides... Do this against a quality opponent and you will catch the attention of college coaches.

Now if your club "A" team is so desperate for Facebook post material that they shift down to a B bracket to win a tournament OR if your high school is playing an overmatched opponent and your girls can rack up some stats along the way against weak defenses... whatever makes you feel good about yourself, I guess. Hope daddy has the camera out for the highlight reel... but it's fools gold.

Hey you just described our HS club coach and some of our players especially the part about racking up points against overmatched opponents

Where's infamous girl and all the commits at for SA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This tunnel vision to the goal thing does not work with any consistency against quality HS defenses and it does not work in college.

"Clear everyone out, start flat-footed from the 12, run into three defenders, and get called for a charge" girl should be shut down fast by a good staff.

By ninth grade, well-coached girls who have played real opponents in club shouldn't be doing this with any consistency. She will play a much more attractive brand of lacrosse if she challenges with her eyes up and drop an assists to an open teammate after drawing the slides... Do this against a quality opponent and you will catch the attention of college coaches.

Now if your club "A" team is so desperate for Facebook post material that they shift down to a B bracket to win a tournament OR if your high school is playing an overmatched opponent and your girls can rack up some stats along the way against weak defenses... whatever makes you feel good about yourself, I guess. Hope daddy has the camera out for the highlight reel... but it's fools gold.

Hey you just described our HS club coach and some of our players especially the part about racking up points against overmatched opponents

hey when the newspaper and twitter stop posting about the hat tricks and only who scored the goals without any mention of how important assists are, girls will keep trying to rack up their stats. and many low level high school coaches encourage this. it's the opposite of what our good club coaches teach. they also like you to "fake" fall to get fp calls.

Infamous girl and the other commits as you call them, are playing somewhere you or your daughter will NOT" be playing. This is the same story over and over again. Who really cares about SA teams Except you.. Sad

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

Got cut?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on what the SA teams are looking like?

Goo to the SA thread for all future information

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

I think what he poster was wondering is how many are on varsity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

Got cut?

All are on JV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

Got cut?

All are on JV

Ouch. Is there still JV A and JV B?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

Got cut?

All are on JV

Ouch. Is there still JV A and JV B?

Yes, only a few freshman on JV A. The rest are on B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

Got cut?

All are on JV

Ouch. Is there still JV A and JV B?

Couldn't make varsity, with the average upperclassmen? Whats that saying about them? Think the parents got a little ahead of themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of those girls are on the freshman team if that is what you are wondering .

Got cut?

All are on JV

Ouch. Is there still JV A and JV B?

Pequa girl, give it up. It's over! you contacted all the girls today asked them tons of questions and then ran to BOTC to start crap. We all know it's you, You are a very troubled girl and the sooner your parents get you help the better. This is no longer funny or amusing, you must move on and get yourself together.

No way are none of the freshmen on the varsity , their varsity is not like it used to be and would lose to many LI public school teams.

All the girls got contacted by this trouble making brat today. Word of advice parents, have your kids cease all communications immediately with this girl. Kid is trying to sabotage any and everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the girls got contacted by this trouble making brat today. Word of advice parents, have your kids cease all communications immediately with this girl. Kid is trying to sabotage any and everyone.

Your a loser whimp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People definitely passed on UNC because of her. Fact

People like that seem pretty mentally weak...being that soft, they wouldn't have seen the field anyway.

Every player has a top 5 list of schools. Comparing schools and lacrosse programs to one another is tough with many variables to consider. Coaches and the other players on team is huge in choosing a school. Your daughter is going to be spending a large portion of her life for the next four years closely involved with these people. If a known nightmare has committed to a school of interest, you better bet it is a huge negative for the rest of the recruits yet to decide. My daughter crossed a school off her list the day she found out a certain player committed there. Can't blame her one bit. Certain coaches have reputations for making players miserable, players would be well advised to cross these schools off their lists as well. Every freshman walks onto a team with many unknowns, you hope for the best, but if your daughter can eliminate getting stuck with someone who is going to make the four years unbearable, that is a great choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the girls got contacted by this trouble making brat today. Word of advice parents, have your kids cease all communications immediately with this girl. Kid is trying to sabotage any and everyone.

Your a loser whimp.

She may be a brat but she will be scoring on a varsity team unlike those other freshmen who were not good enough to make the cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People definitely passed on UNC because of her. Fact

People like that seem pretty mentally weak...being that soft, they wouldn't have seen the field anyway.

Every player has a top 5 list of schools. Comparing schools and lacrosse programs to one another is tough with many variables to consider. Coaches and the other players on team is huge in choosing a school. Your daughter is going to be spending a large portion of her life for the next four years closely involved with these people. If a known nightmare has committed to a school of interest, you better bet it is a huge negative for the rest of the recruits yet to decide. My daughter crossed a school off her list the day she found out a certain player committed there. Can't blame her one bit. Certain coaches have reputations for making players miserable, players would be well advised to cross these schools off their lists as well. Every freshman walks onto a team with many unknowns, you hope for the best, but if your daughter can eliminate getting stuck with someone who is going to make the four years unbearable, that is a great choice.

Unless the lacrosse team is the only reason you're attending a school that sounds crazy to me, you're going to pass on the school that you academically wanted and may not have been admitted to if not for a lacrosse stick in your hand because you think that you might not get along with somebody? Are you going to pass on the job of your dreams as well if everyone there is not to your liking? Isn't the end game to get into a great school (hopefully at a reduced cost) get an education and transition into the real world?

Rumor has it BBP girls varsity has self destructed with a large number (10+) of girls leaving the team. Any truth to this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the girls got contacted by this trouble making brat today. Word of advice parents, have your kids cease all communications immediately with this girl. Kid is trying to sabotage any and everyone.

Your a loser whimp.

She may be a brat but she will be scoring on a varsity team unlike those other freshmen who were not good enough to make the cut.

Yeah she must be so proud scoring on a mediocre crappy team now as she's no longer at Saint Anthony's... Since she is the self-proclaimed lax queen, Massapequa should definitely make an appearance at states this year. (inserts sarcasm). Such a terrible kid and worse teammate. Good luck to all the Pequa and YJ teammates having to play with this problem child this season.

Is there a moderator on this site?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a moderator on this site?

Yes, there is and he does not react or take instructions or orders from anyone who is anonymous. I gather you have an issue?

No not true, they only lost 2 starters from last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People definitely passed on UNC because of her. Fact

People like that seem pretty mentally weak...being that soft, they wouldn't have seen the field anyway.

Every player has a top 5 list of schools. Comparing schools and lacrosse programs to one another is tough with many variables to consider. Coaches and the other players on team is huge in choosing a school. Your daughter is going to be spending a large portion of her life for the next four years closely involved with these people. If a known nightmare has committed to a school of interest, you better bet it is a huge negative for the rest of the recruits yet to decide. My daughter crossed a school off her list the day she found out a certain player committed there. Can't blame her one bit. Certain coaches have reputations for making players miserable, players would be well advised to cross these schools off their lists as well. Every freshman walks onto a team with many unknowns, you hope for the best, but if your daughter can eliminate getting stuck with someone who is going to make the four years unbearable, that is a great choice.

Unless the lacrosse team is the only reason you're attending a school that sounds crazy to me, you're going to pass on the school that you academically wanted and may not have been admitted to if not for a lacrosse stick in your hand because you think that you might not get along with somebody? Are you going to pass on the job of your dreams as well if everyone there is not to your liking? Isn't the end game to get into a great school (hopefully at a reduced cost) get an education and transition into the real world?

Your reply indicates a complete lack of knowledge as to recruiting and playing college lax. First if a player is being recruited by a top tier lax school , UNC in this case , they most certainly are being recruited by other schools and thus have options . Second a teammate who you feel may make life on the field and off the field difficult should have an impact on your decision . You will spend the majority of your time with your teammates especially ones in your graduation year . While your decision should not be solely based on that it certainly should be part of the equation .

This poster is correct. Kids with offers from Top 5 schools can get comparable offers from just about anywhere and kids will factor team-mates and coaches into their decision making process (along with academics). That is a fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No not true, they only lost 2 starters from last year.

That means nothing when the team was 2-14...all that means is team had bad young players, and they are coming back.

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a moderator on this site?

Yes, there is and he does not react or take instructions or orders from anyone who is anonymous. I gather you have an issue?

I'm not the original poster asking the question, but it does seem to have gotten very personal against a specific young lady. I don't know her but from all the clear clues given out it is pretty simple to identify her, the posters might as well just name her. People should refrain from identifying a 14 year old, don't you think? Kind of uncalled for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a moderator on this site?

Yes, there is and he does not react or take instructions or orders from anyone who is anonymous. I gather you have an issue?

I'm not the original poster asking the question, but it does seem to have gotten very personal against a specific young lady. I don't know her but from all the clear clues given out it is pretty simple to identify her, the posters might as well just name her. People should refrain from identifying a 14 year old, don't you think? Kind of uncalled for.

The girl isn't the issue...her father is..a bit off the walls....and beating on the moderator is deflecting from the multiple sources that have made posts in this thread regarding this player. What I get is that this player is of high quality, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is? Do not look at BOTC, but look at those that are posting, and I would be interested in hearing about the father....I'm sure he is at the root of the posts....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This poster is correct. Kids with offers from Top 5 schools can get comparable offers from just about anywhere and kids will factor team-mates and coaches into their decision making process (along with academics). That is a fact!

You are not going to know the majority of the kids until you get there, what happens then? You leave and go to your second choice?

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a moderator on this site?

Yes, there is and he does not react or take instructions or orders from anyone who is anonymous. I gather you have an issue?

I'm not the original poster asking the question, but it does seem to have gotten very personal against a specific young lady. I don't know her but from all the clear clues given out it is pretty simple to identify her, the posters might as well just name her. People should refrain from identifying a 14 year old, don't you think? Kind of uncalled for.

The girl isn't the issue...her father is..a bit off the walls....and beating on the moderator is deflecting from the multiple sources that have made posts in this thread regarding this player. What I get is that this player is of high quality, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is? Do not look at BOTC, but look at those that are posting, and I would be interested in hearing about the father....I'm sure he is at the root of the posts....

Jealousy is at the root of most of the vitriol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a moderator on this site?

Yes, there is and he does not react or take instructions or orders from anyone who is anonymous. I gather you have an issue?

I'm not the original poster asking the question, but it does seem to have gotten very personal against a specific young lady. I don't know her but from all the clear clues given out it is pretty simple to identify her, the posters might as well just name her. People should refrain from identifying a 14 year old, don't you think? Kind of uncalled for.

The girl isn't the issue...her father is..a bit off the walls....and beating on the moderator is deflecting from the multiple sources that have made posts in this thread regarding this player. What I get is that this player is of high quality, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is? Do not look at BOTC, but look at those that are posting, and I would be interested in hearing about the father....I'm sure he is at the root of the posts....

Jealousy is at the root of most of the vitriol

Who's he jealous of?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This poster is correct. Kids with offers from Top 5 schools can get comparable offers from just about anywhere and kids will factor team-mates and coaches into their decision making process (along with academics). That is a fact!

You are not going to know the majority of the kids until you get there, what happens then? You leave and go to your second choice?

While that's not completely true with today's social media most people would rather take a chance with the unknown than pick to go with a kid that is known to be a horrible teammate .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a moderator on this site?

Yes, there is and he does not react or take instructions or orders from anyone who is anonymous. I gather you have an issue?

I'm not the original poster asking the question, but it does seem to have gotten very personal against a specific young lady. I don't know her but from all the clear clues given out it is pretty simple to identify her, the posters might as well just name her. People should refrain from identifying a 14 year old, don't you think? Kind of uncalled for.

The girl isn't the issue...her father is..a bit off the walls....and beating on the moderator is deflecting from the multiple sources that have made posts in this thread regarding this player. What I get is that this player is of high quality, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is? Do not look at BOTC, but look at those that are posting, and I would be interested in hearing about the father....I'm sure he is at the root of the posts....

Jealousy is at the root of most of the vitriol

Dads that love and motivate their daughters get them to where they are. Ask any top girl!

Wish this forum would stick to the teams and games. As to poster who made fun of pequa and states, they actual be be a very good team and along with syosset and Port will have a decent shot at beating any Suffolk A team to advance there so before you denigrate a team full of hs girls without any knowledge. Learn the facts. If you are mad at a dad say so, if you are mad at a freshman girl, keep it to yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor has it BBP girls varsity has self destructed with a large number (10+) of girls leaving the team. Any truth to this?

What happened

BBP stil intact, only girls who left where girls who did not want to play lax anymore no-one that important, all the true layers are still there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP stil intact, only girls who left where girls who did not want to play lax anymore no-one that important, all the true layers are still there

Wow! "No-one important"? That is so rude! I hope no one important needs to be relieved for any reason and there is no one there to fill in! Your daughter is probably friends with some of the girls that left! Shame on you talking about our girls like that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP stil intact, only girls who left where girls who did not want to play lax anymore no-one that important, all the true layers are still there

Wow! "No-one important"? That is so rude! I hope no one important needs to be relieved for any reason and there is no one there to fill in! Your daughter is probably friends with some of the girls that left! Shame on you talking about our girls like that!

Agreed.

Is this forum about people fighting with each other or can we talk some Lax, season supposed to start, obviously weather will delay it, but lets get back to lacrosse and leave all the attacks on each other alone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP stil intact, only girls who left where girls who did not want to play lax anymore no-one that important, all the true layers are still there

Wow! "No-one important"? That is so rude! I hope no one important needs to be relieved for any reason and there is no one there to fill in! Your daughter is probably friends with some of the girls that left! Shame on you talking about our girls like that!

Agreed.

Anyone who quit the team did so because they knew they would sit the bench, face it. Now the girls who can actually play will not have whining to deal with!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP stil intact, only girls who left where girls who did not want to play lax anymore no-one that important, all the true layers are still there

Wow! "No-one important"? That is so rude! I hope no one important needs to be relieved for any reason and there is no one there to fill in! Your daughter is probably friends with some of the girls that left! Shame on you talking about our girls like that!

Agreed.

They left , they were not asked to leave .Would you feel better if they said no key players left . Sorry honesty hurts.

All that needs to be said is "two players left." Over and done. No commentary, no innuendo, just a stated fact. The fact that everyone feels the need to defend the indefensible is, um, indefensible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor has it BBP girls varsity has self destructed with a large number (10+) of girls leaving the team. Any truth to this?

What happened

Left after the first week of the season? Something happened.

You can leave wb out of any conversation. Barely fielding a team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor has it BBP girls varsity has self destructed with a large number (10+) of girls leaving the team. Any truth to this?

What happened

Left after the first week of the season? Something happened.

Maybe, or maybe they just realized that they were not into playing a sport. Maybe they chose to take driver's ed instead since that is a conflict. Maybe they got jobs and valued that more. I'm not saying there isn't drama but you can't just assume there is either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can leave wb out of any conversation. Barely fielding a team

Lots of hs's in the same boat. If you don't play club you don't see the field or the ball so some good athletes quit. We have two teams of 15 all as a walk on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can leave wb out of any conversation. Barely fielding a team

What conversation would they be in in the first place? They aren't good. Last year was a fluke. No more superstars to run their offense around. Coach allows TG director to run the team like he runs his crappy travel program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP stil intact, only girls who left where girls who did not want to play lax anymore no-one that important, all the true layers are still there

Wow! "No-one important"? That is so rude! I hope no one important needs to be relieved for any reason and there is no one there to fill in! Your daughter is probably friends with some of the girls that left! Shame on you talking about our girls like that!

Agreed.

They left , they were not asked to leave .Would you feel better if they said no key players left . Sorry honesty hurts.

I'll make sure I watch the games alone so I know I am not sharing the lines with such perfect individual. I feel bad for your daughter, hope she doesn't have your lovely attitude.

Next time you go to a game, watch the warm up. See which kids are dropping the ball, making bad passes and having trouble with ground balls. These are the weakest kids on the team and will be sitting the bench. Has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next time you go to a game, watch the warm up. See which kids are dropping the ball, making bad passes and having trouble with ground balls. These are the weakest kids on the team and will be sitting the bench. Has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with ability.

In a world of rainbows unicorns and teams without booster clubs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next time you go to a game, watch the warm up. See which kids are dropping the ball, making bad passes and having trouble with ground balls. These are the weakest kids on the team and will be sitting the bench. Has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with ability.

In a world of rainbows unicorns and teams without booster clubs

And outright donors. And when the HS coach is not a club coach. When the coach doesn't have a relative on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next time you go to a game, watch the warm up. See which kids are dropping the ball, making bad passes and having trouble with ground balls. These are the weakest kids on the team and will be sitting the bench. Has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with ability.

In a world of rainbows unicorns and teams without booster clubs

And outright donors. And when the HS coach is not a club coach. When the coach doesn't have a relative on the team.

Let me guess. Your daughter is one of the best on the team but she sits the bench because she has no connections. Wake up!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next time you go to a game, watch the warm up. See which kids are dropping the ball, making bad passes and having trouble with ground balls. These are the weakest kids on the team and will be sitting the bench. Has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with ability.

In a world of rainbows unicorns and teams without booster clubs

And outright donors. And when the HS coach is not a club coach. When the coach doesn't have a relative on the team.

Let me guess. Your daughter is one of the best on the team but she sits the bench because she has no connections. Wake up!!

Not even close. Perhaps...you run the booster club? Or bought team gear for the whole team? Team parent who shows up with munchkins after every game, hoping to earn points? See how it goes both ways with the anonymous snark?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next time you go to a game, watch the warm up. See which kids are dropping the ball, making bad passes and having trouble with ground balls. These are the weakest kids on the team and will be sitting the bench. Has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with ability.

In a world of rainbows unicorns and teams without booster clubs

And outright donors. And when the HS coach is not a club coach. When the coach doesn't have a relative on the team.

Let me guess. Your daughter is one of the best on the team but she sits the bench because she has no connections. Wake up!!

Do us a favor mom since the prototypical club player only listens to their parents who are always telling them to get theirs. Just tell your daughter to pass the ball when other kids are open. It makes for a better game.

How are teams even practicing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next time you go to a game, watch the warm up. See which kids are dropping the ball, making bad passes and having trouble with ground balls. These are the weakest kids on the team and will be sitting the bench. Has nothing to do with travel and everything to do with ability.

In a world of rainbows unicorns and teams without booster clubs

And outright donors. And when the HS coach is not a club coach. When the coach doesn't have a relative on the team.

Let me guess. Your daughter is one of the best on the team but she sits the bench because she has no connections. Wake up!!

Do us a favor mom since the prototypical club player only listens to their parents who are always telling them to get theirs. Just tell your daughter to pass the ball when other kids are open. It makes for a better game.

Change schools, if it is bothering you so much, MOVE, but please stop complaining.

I'll add in that on our high school team, the head coach was giving private lessons to a JV player , was actually photographed giving the lesson on school grounds. Guess who made varsity and was never ever subbed out?
Guess who's mommy also donated everything for the booster club?

[/quote]Change schools, if it is bothering you so much, MOVE, but please stop complaining.[/quote]

No need to move, just tell her to pass the ball when others are open and she is shut down. Then everyone will all get along. Nobody cares that she is going D1 except you but tell her to start acting like a good unselfish teammate and see how happy everyone will be applauding her accomplishments!

Reread your comments and then you can understand why there is such a rift on HS Lax sidelines when you bring that toxic me first club attitude in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]Change schools, if it is bothering you so much, MOVE, but please stop complaining.

No need to move, just tell her to pass the ball when others are open and she is shut down. Then everyone will all get along. Nobody cares that she is going D1 except you but tell her to start acting like a good unselfish teammate and see how happy everyone will be applauding her accomplishments!

Reread your comments and then you can understand why there is such a rift on HS Lax sidelines when you bring that toxic me first club attitude in
[/quote]
Sorry lady, not my kid, my daughter is in 7th grade, but hey, you should really move, or have your daughter quit, because you are really whiny.

Yes , most be some excuse that your little Susie sits the bench other than she is not very good. The coach, the AD, they want to lose and only care about the booster club bank accounts. STOP BLAMING others for you and your daughters short comings , grab a stick and have a catch with her . The reason those other kids are going D1 and your kid is not is simple ,they are better players.

Nice and humble

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll add in that on our high school team, the head coach was giving private lessons to a JV player , was actually photographed giving the lesson on school grounds. Guess who made varsity and was never ever subbed out?
Guess who's mommy also donated everything for the booster club?

And I bet your the stalker who followed the coach around taking the picture. How about using that time getting your daughter's skills better, so she can get some playing time. Sounds like that JV player was putting in the time, while you guys sat around complaining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are teams even practicing?

yeah good question. they taking it inside to the gym? renting indoor space. global warming huh..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll add in that on our high school team, the head coach was giving private lessons to a JV player , was actually photographed giving the lesson on school grounds. Guess who made varsity and was never ever subbed out?
Guess who's mommy also donated everything for the booster club?

And I bet your the stalker who followed the coach around taking the picture. How about using that time getting your daughter's skills better, so she can get some playing time. Sounds like that JV player was putting in the time, while you guys sat around complaining.

How about we acknowledge there is truth on both sides. Parents wear goggles and overrate their child's talent. Parents also make political moves on behalf of their child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll add in that on our high school team, the head coach was giving private lessons to a JV player , was actually photographed giving the lesson on school grounds. Guess who made varsity and was never ever subbed out?
Guess who's mommy also donated everything for the booster club?

And I bet your the stalker who followed the coach around taking the picture. How about using that time getting your daughter's skills better, so she can get some playing time. Sounds like that JV player was putting in the time, while you guys sat around complaining.

You are all the most arrogant SOB's in all of sport. Just acknowledge their is selfish play in girls lax. Don't tell us our kids suck, they cant keep up or we whine. We actually love the game but dislike people like you ruining it

Why do some school have very few seniors if any playing? Why do some have to beg kids to play just to roster when every other sport fields teams just fine? You think maybe its the fact that older kids have just had enough after years of PAL and school squads not sharing the ball and watching little Shannon go to goal 8 out of 10 times she touches the ball? Good for Shannon Im sure she will do great in college but while she's here just pass it once in a while.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll add in that on our high school team, the head coach was giving private lessons to a JV player , was actually photographed giving the lesson on school grounds. Guess who made varsity and was never ever subbed out?
Guess who's mommy also donated everything for the booster club?

And I bet your the stalker who followed the coach around taking the picture. How about using that time getting your daughter's skills better, so she can get some playing time. Sounds like that JV player was putting in the time, while you guys sat around complaining.

How about we acknowledge there is truth on both sides. Parents wear goggles and overrate their child's talent. Parents also make political moves on behalf of their child.

You're the loser if you think that isn't unethical.
My daughter was the leading scorer on varsity and leading assists -she didnt need to try and bribe the coach for playing time.
I'm talking about the obviously more talented kids who didnt make the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll add in that on our high school team, the head coach was giving private lessons to a JV player , was actually photographed giving the lesson on school grounds. Guess who made varsity and was never ever subbed out?
Guess who's mommy also donated everything for the booster club?

And I bet your the stalker who followed the coach around taking the picture. How about using that time getting your daughter's skills better, so she can get some playing time. Sounds like that JV player was putting in the time, while you guys sat around complaining.

How about we acknowledge there is truth on both sides. Parents wear goggles and overrate their child's talent. Parents also make political moves on behalf of their child.

You're the loser if you think that isn't unethical.
My daughter was the leading scorer on varsity and leading assists -she didnt need to try and bribe the coach for playing time.
I'm talking about the obviously more talented kids who didnt make the team.

You people realize most of s have no idea what you are babbling about. Are there schools struggling to field lax teams while other team sports are thriving , let's hear what schools .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are teams even practicing?

yeah good question. they taking it inside to the gym? renting indoor space. global warming huh..

SA has a nice indoor field house with turf field to practice in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are teams even practicing?

yeah good question. they taking it inside to the gym? renting indoor space. global warming huh..

SA has a nice indoor field house with turf field to practice in

Congrats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are teams even practicing?

yeah good question. they taking it inside to the gym? renting indoor space. global warming huh..

Global warming as has been observed produces higher temperatures on average AND wider swings in temperature resulting in higher highs and lower lows. Don't be stupid you moron.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do some school have very few seniors if any playing? Why do some have to beg kids to play just to roster when every other sport fields teams just fine? You think maybe its the fact that older kids have just had enough after years of PAL and school squads not sharing the ball and watching little Shannon go to goal 8 out of 10 times she touches the ball? Good for Shannon Im sure she will do great in college but while she's here just pass it once in a while.

Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are teams even practicing?

yeah good question. they taking it inside to the gym? renting indoor space. global warming huh..

Global warming as has been observed produces higher temperatures on average AND wider swings in temperature resulting in higher highs and lower lows. Don't be stupid you moron.

oh geez. You gotta be kidding me. Please stop with that nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do some school have very few seniors if any playing? Why do some have to beg kids to play just to roster when every other sport fields teams just fine? You think maybe its the fact that older kids have just had enough after years of PAL and school squads not sharing the ball and watching little Shannon go to goal 8 out of 10 times she touches the ball? Good for Shannon Im sure she will do great in college but while she's here just pass it once in a while.

Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.

I respectfully disagree about how you make up/split teams. Creating to equal teams is what is killing the sport. The only reason to have equal teams is to stroke the egos of the parents.

If you are fortunate enough to have two teams (in a grade) you should practice one or two days as a grade and get a third day (or the second day) with a split team (split by skill) not equal teams. You should play games with a team of the stronger players and as a team with the (dare i say) developing players (understanding they are all still developing).

In this split scenario, you ask for guest players from each team to play on the other team. The bottom half of the best team plays with the developing players and the top have of the developing team plays with the better team. This way the girls learn together and still get challenged. It is a team game but it is a game none the less and in a game you always play to win!

As far as why not so many players play Sr year, there are many reasons, some just loss the love of it, some realize there is more to Sr year for them, some realize the younger girls are better why bother. So dont want to put up with the Bull $hit.

You all know the definition of insanity:
Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result

We also preach the opposite:
Work harder, if at first you don't succeed try try again

Both have applications in sport, some cant or dont have it in them to work harder/do better and realize the definition of insanity.

[/quote]Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.[/quote]

Great post. The problem is at a very young age (and getting younger every year) some youth coaches and players are " all in" with year round club lacrosse. In our town our program has been hijacked by a few and they never adopted the best practices that you listed above about sharing the ball, playing time and positions. Years later, yes those handful were recruited however the rest of the program is hanging on by a thread. We have been hearing get the ball to Shannon since kindergarten. When 80% of scoring goes through a couple of players over a 7 year stretch how do you think the rest of players are developing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.[/quote]

Great post. The problem is at a very young age (and getting younger every year) some youth coaches and players are " all in" with year round club lacrosse. In our town our program has been hijacked by a few and they never adopted the best practices that you listed above about sharing the ball, playing time and positions. Years later, yes those handful were recruited however the rest of the program is hanging on by a thread. We have been hearing get the ball to Shannon since kindergarten. When 80% of scoring goes through a couple of players over a 7 year stretch how do you think the rest of players are developing?
[/quote]

you get the "get he ball to Shannon" when you split team evenly, you dont get that when you have the luxury of two teams and put the best players on one team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.

Great post. The problem is at a very young age (and getting younger every year) some youth coaches and players are " all in" with year round club lacrosse. In our town our program has been hijacked by a few and they never adopted the best practices that you listed above about sharing the ball, playing time and positions. Years later, yes those handful were recruited however the rest of the program is hanging on by a thread. We have been hearing get the ball to Shannon since kindergarten. When 80% of scoring goes through a couple of players over a 7 year stretch how do you think the rest of players are developing?
[/quote]

you get the "get he ball to Shannon" when you split team evenly, you dont get that when you have the luxury of two teams and put the best players on one team! [/quote]

Yes, lets have the same philosophy K-12. Everybody plays, there is no difference between the players, wait your turn, seniors first and so on. While we are at it lets do away with AP classes as well. Why don't we have everybody take the same classes and give everyone a "C" in the classroom and stop keeping score during games. Forget about playing club lacrosse that is a waste of money, much better to just play with your friends and pass the ball around. Nobody should go to the goal unless it is her turn. Everybody gets to play and everybody gets to score a goal. Practice should be fun as well. steal the bacon, the name game, pin the tail on the donkey etc..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.

Great post. The problem is at a very young age (and getting younger every year) some youth coaches and players are " all in" with year round club lacrosse. In our town our program has been hijacked by a few and they never adopted the best practices that you listed above about sharing the ball, playing time and positions. Years later, yes those handful were recruited however the rest of the program is hanging on by a thread. We have been hearing get the ball to Shannon since kindergarten. When 80% of scoring goes through a couple of players over a 7 year stretch how do you think the rest of players are developing?
[/quote]

you get the "get he ball to Shannon" when you split team evenly, you dont get that when you have the luxury of two teams and put the best players on one team! [/quote]

Sorry if you do not agree but that's how we do it in my town and we are in County finals every year and have 40+ trying out for V & JV every year. It works again like I said before everyone has to buy into the philosophy.

Is the object for a few to get recruited or to build a strong overall program? Teams are only as good as the bottom half of their roster. The teams with deep rosters win, the teams with a handful of players don't, but they do usually get their names in the newspaper which makes it all worth while right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]

you get the "get he ball to Shannon" when you split team evenly, you dont get that when you have the luxury of two teams and put the best players on one team!

Have you been involved with club lacrosse? Because you absolutely get that. Please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the object for a few to get recruited or to build a strong overall program? Teams are only as good as the bottom half of their roster. The teams with deep rosters win, the teams with a handful of players don't, but they do usually get their names in the newspaper which makes it all worth while right?

Communities with strong youth programs have strong JV & Varsity squads because they have so many kids to choose from. The top players in grades 9-12 are competing for jv and varsity spots and the bottom half of the rosters in these varsity programs are generally very strong players who would be top players on most other teams. They have subs who'd start on most other teams too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.

Great post. The problem is at a very young age (and getting younger every year) some youth coaches and players are " all in" with year round club lacrosse. In our town our program has been hijacked by a few and they never adopted the best practices that you listed above about sharing the ball, playing time and positions. Years later, yes those handful were recruited however the rest of the program is hanging on by a thread. We have been hearing get the ball to Shannon since kindergarten. When 80% of scoring goes through a couple of players over a 7 year stretch how do you think the rest of players are developing?

you get the "get he ball to Shannon" when you split team evenly, you dont get that when you have the luxury of two teams and put the best players on one team! [/quote]

Sorry if you do not agree but that's how we do it in my town and we are in County finals every year and have 40+ trying out for V & JV every year. It works again like I said before everyone has to buy into the philosophy.
[/quote]

and what town is that... and is it "even" because of political BS? Could you be better if not equal??

Do you practice as a group with both teams or separately. If separately, imagine what you could do if you had a skill and drill day with the group

and for those that say the go to goal is promoted on a travel team yeah it does but those teams that will flounder. against a well coached team. if you have all the better girls on a town on one team the girls work themselves out on the field. The coach manages the game flow and adjusts in game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many districts would have stronger programs if they adopted a philosophy from Varsity head coach down through youth coaching. The key is everyone must buy into the philosophy. Start with the girls when they are young and just make it fun for them and encourage them to bring their friends down. If you only have enough kids for one team in a grade play everyone equally and encourage the better girls to help develop the weaker players. If you are fortunate to have enough for two teams in a grade balance them and again play everyone equally. The most important thing for grade school town lacrosse is development not WINS. Keep the girls together as long as you can. Once middle school starts the stronger players will rise to the top and the weaker will stay involved because they had a positive experience playing with the better players (key is they are friends) through youth level. They know who the stronger players are but now are accepting that and either putting in extra work or not it is on them. At the HS level you will then have large numbers staying in the program because they want to be a part of something with their friends. The kids get it, the parents not so much! The towns with strong youth programs that operate this way have large rosters with many talented kids waiting their turn to step on the field some not till their senior year. Many have kids with verbal commitments on JV as 10 graders. To answer your question why so few seniors playing & having to beg girls to field teams I guess if my daughter didn't feel like she had that shot at seeing the field as a 12 grader and not feeling a part of something why would she want to stay around and watch the same kid go to goal and never pass the ball? Its a team game and the program must have a team philosophy from K-12. It works look at some of the towns that have been operating that way & it shows when they are at the LI Championship game or deep into the playoffs year after year.

Great post. The problem is at a very young age (and getting younger every year) some youth coaches and players are " all in" with year round club lacrosse. In our town our program has been hijacked by a few and they never adopted the best practices that you listed above about sharing the ball, playing time and positions. Years later, yes those handful were recruited however the rest of the program is hanging on by a thread. We have been hearing get the ball to Shannon since kindergarten. When 80% of scoring goes through a couple of players over a 7 year stretch how do you think the rest of players are developing?

you get the "get he ball to Shannon" when you split team evenly, you dont get that when you have the luxury of two teams and put the best players on one team!

Sorry if you do not agree but that's how we do it in my town and we are in County finals every year and have 40+ trying out for V & JV every year. It works again like I said before everyone has to buy into the philosophy.
[/quote]

and what town is that... and is it "even" because of political BS? Could you be better if not equal??

Do you practice as a group with both teams or separately. If separately, imagine what you could do if you had a skill and drill day with the group

and for those that say the go to goal is promoted on a travel team yeah it does but those teams that will flounder. against a well coached team. if you have all the better girls on a town on one team the girls work themselves out on the field. The coach manages the game flow and adjusts in game. [/quote]

Yes they practice two days together. WI

In GC it's a win mentality. Town program high jacked, from coordinators to presidents to coaches by dads and moms of the not so good players that play all minutes of every game. Try as they might They haven't been successful infiltrated school ball yet, thank goodness!

What does that even mean? GC freshman parent venting about the past ... sounds like you feel your kid been wronged.

You program building know it all gurus are hilarious . There is no one right way to build a program . Sometimes it just takes several well intentioned patents at the youth level to get kids involved . Sometimes it's a very good varsity coach . Sometimes it's a history of success that just builds on itself. I also find your delusional attitude about what makes a team great comical . In a perfect world all kids on a team would play equal time , score the same amount of goals etc but it's just not realistic . The best college teams have 2-3 girls that do most of the scoring and those kids play a selfish style game .They put their head down and run to goal .Its ugly but effective .

"In GC it's a win mentality. Town program high jacked, from coordinators to presidents to coaches by dads and moms of the not so good players that play all minutes of every game. Try as they might They haven't been successful infiltrated school ball yet, thank goodness!"

To the above poster: Every athlete has a "win mentality" ... not matter what town they live in. Its called competition. If you don't like the youth program in GC, then leave it. Nothing worse than a malcontent, ingrate. If you want to make it better, volunteer. But that would mean you have to give your time to others, other than yourself and your kid, and from the tenor of your post, I doubt you are capable of doing something for anyone other than yourself.

As for school ball... the coaches in GC are paid to put a winning team on the field and they have been pretty successful at that. Thanks to the volunteer Coordinators, Presidents and Coaches of the youth program in GC (you have such disdain for), the GC girls have an affordable, local program which enables them to learn the great game of lacrosse from an early age and, in large part, prepares them to play lax and compete at the highest level, not just in the State but in the Country, when they get to the HS. The girls that put in the extra time and effort will always succeed, in sport... and in life.

I'm sorry but a HS that has a couple of seniors playing every year clearly isn't developing as a program. 5 kids does not make a team and if the next 15 were recruited to play out of the cafeteria I think that's a problem. Our town stays in that mouse wheel going round and round. A few kids get recruited each year at the expenses of the team. We win nothing as a group, but the handful that get recruited love it because their interests were served. It starts with the youth program. US Lax should definitely go to small sided games to get everyone touching the ball.

WI 4- pequa 3 final

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI 4- pequa 3 final

Wow , low scoring game . I will guess the UNC commit did not play .

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

The win mentality was in response to a prior post. Having that mentality in grade 3-8 where kids sit on the bench so a few, including coaches kids that aren't very good can play, is not a good thing. Having volunteered, as you suggest, and seen what goes on inside I can tell you it's toxic. You don't know me but I do appreciate your psychoanalysis as it shows your insecurity. To reiterate, since you didn't understand what you read, the controlling parents have NOT been able to infiltrate the HS game, hence their kids sit on the JV bench, yes the JV bench. So in the HS the cream rises, hence the team is a winning one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Thanks for your useless input ,don't think it was a scrimmage .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Not a scrimmage

it was a non league game counts toward overall record

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Non league... and the unc commit did the same as last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Non league... and the unc commit did the same as last game.

League game or not I would think both teams are trying to win. Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a

The UNC commit did not do much

The UNC commit did not have a good game and almost took off he head of a WI defense player when she shot the ball outside the 8. I was scouting the game and she has very poor sportsmanship and is not a team player. The game was sloppy WI looks very young

How does pequa look?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does pequa look?

goalie kept them in the game. unc commit got nothing going guarded the whole game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Non league... and the unc commit did the same as last game.

League game or not I would think both teams are trying to win. Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a

pretty sure everyone knows what they're talking about dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does pequa look?

goalie kept them in the game. unc commit got nothing going guarded the whole game

Their goalie is really good!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Non league... and the unc commit did the same as last game.

League game or not I would think both teams are trying to win. Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a

LI championship game zero points. Yesterday zero points. Faceguard=Zero points. If Nassau coaches are paying attention it will be a long season for pequa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Non league... and the unc commit did the same as last game.

League game or not I would think both teams are trying to win. Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a

LI championship game zero points. Yesterday zero points. Faceguard=Zero points. If Nassau coaches are paying attention it will be a long season for pequa.

Thanks for explaining , at least now the rest of us understand . The kid is a very talented but if she has not been much of a team player in the past her teammates may decide to return the favor as breaking a face guard is a team effort . I am also surprised they don't call more dangerous shots .

Long season for pequa kid and her dad if they don't stop their attention seeking antics. They come on here shooting their mouth every day craving attention, then they post this when they can't back their blabbing...

"Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a"

You're finally getting it daddy-daughter combo - When you shoot your mouth off like you do, everyone wants to see you fail! Maybe it's time to stop talking about yourself and just get to work - there is plenty of time and a lot of room for you to get better with your stick, not your mouth! Let someone else tell you you're a good player rather than just you and daddy coming on botc and crying for attention, trying to convince us that you are some phenom! I have yet to hear anyone defend you in any way! Time to wake up!

Sorry, late to the party- is the kid a freshman at Pequa?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long season for pequa kid and her dad if they don't stop their attention seeking antics. They come on here shooting their mouth every day craving attention, then they post this when they can't back their blabbing...

"Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a"

You're finally getting it daddy-daughter combo - When you shoot your mouth off like you do, everyone wants to see you fail! Maybe it's time to stop talking about yourself and just get to work - there is plenty of time and a lot of room for you to get better with your stick, not your mouth! Let someone else tell you you're a good player rather than just you and daddy coming on botc and crying for attention, trying to convince us that you are some phenom! I have yet to hear anyone defend you in any way! Time to wake up!

You really are a moron . Definitely not the kids dad , which is the exact reason I had no idea what you were babbling about . The only reason it's going to be a long season for that kid is moronic people like you that cant stand that she is a much better player and kid than yours .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long season for pequa kid and her dad if they don't stop their attention seeking antics. They come on here shooting their mouth every day craving attention, then they post this when they can't back their blabbing...

"Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a"

You're finally getting it daddy-daughter combo - When you shoot your mouth off like you do, everyone wants to see you fail! Maybe it's time to stop talking about yourself and just get to work - there is plenty of time and a lot of room for you to get better with your stick, not your mouth! Let someone else tell you you're a good player rather than just you and daddy coming on botc and crying for attention, trying to convince us that you are some phenom! I have yet to hear anyone defend you in any way! Time to wake up!

You really are a moron . Definitely not the kids dad , which is the exact reason I had no idea what you were babbling about . The only reason it's going to be a long season for that kid is moronic people like you that cant stand that she is a much better player and kid than yours .

Player probably, kid doubt it!

ahhhhhhhhh yeah it was, the first league games start this week

Whatever happened to not identifying and bashing an individual player(kid).

Truth stings doesn't it. When people are called out, the usual response is "moron"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth stings doesn't it. When people are called out, the usual response is "moron"

You were called a moron because clearly you are challenged at best . Is it really the usual response or the response that you usually get. Not even sure what "truth" you are babbling about .

I still don't know who it is, was she listed in the Massapequa key players in today's Newsday?

I can assure you, people reading know exactly what I am babbling about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a scrimmage,who cares.

Non league... and the unc commit did the same as last game.

League game or not I would think both teams are trying to win. Why post stuff on here that no one knows what you are babbling about , same as last game , thanks for the info jack a

LI championship game zero points. Yesterday zero points. Faceguard=Zero points. If Nassau coaches are paying attention it will be a long season for pequa.

Back off the kid or put your name on the post...I'm not her father, but enough is enough,

We all know who your babbling about and it gross that you have this much hatred for a girl. You have been bashing this kid all over this site for years now. Get over it!!!!

Nope, you're wrong! Everyone knows the only ones babbling about this girl are herself and her father. They have full on conversations with themselves. Negative attention is still attention and they both crave it any way they can. Daddy and daughter are both just being called out!! Keep posting your "get over it" "you're hatred for this girl" responses or STOP drawing attention to yourself because no ones else cares enough to hate her and no one cares enough about how she does to have to "get over it'... except her and daddy! It's not fun when someone else actually responds to you both is it? It's not so much fun when you are not the only one responding to your own posts is it? Go focus on your season and get better. Talk with your stick!

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Ha. Do you really think that list is legit. Cmon. You must be a Kardashians viewer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Ha. Do you really think that list is legit. Cmon. You must be a Kardashians viewer

who submits the names? Club directors? AD's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I still don't know who it is, was she listed in the Massapequa key players in today's Newsday?

Wouldn't you like to know

Anyone playing today? A lot of fields still aren't cleared but some must be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Ha. Do you really think that list is legit. Cmon. You must be a Kardashians viewer

That didn't take long, let the crying begin. All the hs coaches sent in their ballots.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Ha. Do you really think that list is legit. Cmon. You must be a Kardashians viewer

I guess your daughter didnt make the list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing today? A lot of fields still aren't cleared but some must be.

Massapequa plays St. Anthony's

That girl from Massapequa did not impress me at all. Poor attitude as well and very dangerous player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That girl from Massapequa did not impress me at all. Poor attitude as well and very dangerous player.

And you are who.....? Oh yeah a guy on BOTC, that no one cares about. Stick your head back under your rock clown.

She doesn't have to impress you. She impressed Carolina head coach and that's what matters

and how long until the head coach at UNC finds out she was kicked out of SA, and finds out the reasons why.. i would imagine she would not want kind of player on her team.

I don't anything about this specific situation but do know that coaches honor their verbals because its bad for business if the don't. That's why initial offers are usually low and can go up so they cover themselves. What coaches do is try to break verbals based on cause or behavior issues. After those tough conversations the players just seem to disappear. NO different than pro teams trying to void contracts for off the field issues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Ha. Do you really think that list is legit. Cmon. You must be a Kardashians viewer

who submits the names? Club directors? AD's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Ha. Do you really think that list is legit. Cmon. You must be a Kardashians viewer

who submits the names? Club directors? AD's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises by the newsday top 20 selections?

Ha. Do you really think that list is legit. Cmon. You must be a Kardashians viewer

who submits the names? Club directors? AD's?

Mostly club directors and parents. The writer is a 23 yr old ex baseball player. Newsday is a joke. Not saying those kids aren't good, but no real research is done. It's all just submitted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and how long until the head coach at UNC finds out she was kicked out of SA, and finds out the reasons why.. i would imagine she would not want kind of player on her team.

Really, what is your problem with this girl? You have an uncomfortable obsession with her! Let's talk about your daughter, see how you enjoy the show. What a d!ck you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and how long until the head coach at UNC finds out she was kicked out of SA, and finds out the reasons why.. i would imagine she would not want kind of player on her team.

Have no dog in this fight, don;t even know the kid in question. But OMG shut up already. This is a young kid if you have a comment comment on your own kid. Stop the threats UNC coaches are big girls and know what is going on with all of their recruits. Leave it alone. You sound like an awful and very jealous parent.

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

In 1980, Michael Jordan was suspended from school for taking a test with his tongue out. UNC honored their verbal.......and the rest is history.

Girl did nothing against West Islip, could be a great player, but attitude will ruin a player

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing today? A lot of fields still aren't cleared but some must be.

Massapequa plays St. Anthony's

How did that game go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and how long until the head coach at UNC finds out she was kicked out of SA, and finds out the reasons why.. i would imagine she would not want kind of player on her team.

Have no dog in this fight, don;t even know the kid in question. But OMG shut up already. This is a young kid if you have a comment comment on your own kid. Stop the threats UNC coaches are big girls and know what is going on with all of their recruits. Leave it alone. You sound like an awful and very jealous parent.

I am sure Phil and Josh will disagree with you especially the part about being big girls . That said I doubt they have any idea what's going on , why would they . That said if they knew they may pull their verbal these coaches make a good living and a player w disciplinary problems is the fastest way to lose that cushy job. Have no idea what this kid has done or not done so really just talking in general.

What college teams are doing Lake Placid this year!!??

How is BC commit on SA, Better attitude than NC commit?

Was she named as a player to watch in the Massapequa Newsday blurb?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is BC commit on SA, Better attitude than NC commit?

apples and oranges for both attitude and ability comparisons

False. There is no game on the SA schedule versus Massapeq.

No such game on schedule.

I always thought pre season scrimmages were used to look at the entire roster, this way when you never see the field during the season the coach has the answer that your scrimmage play wasn't up to game play standards. Am I wrong?

you just didn't compare her to MJ did you??

This was a non-league game. What is so difficult to understand - ref's, scoreboard etc and teams play to win. Only non-league and league results are posted, not scrimmages.

My daughter is in the class of 2033 and i was wondering if she can try out for our high school team. She has talent possibly maryland or unc type. She really is not athletic but boy can she play lacrosse. She use to play defense but i noticed that the defenders only touch the ball like 20 seconds a game and usually they dump it to the goalie. Kind of like spectators on the field,running around yelling ball all game. I am teaching her faceoffs hopeing she wins them and runs down the field and shoots. That seems to be the most exciting position. Anyway to get back to my question is she to young for high school.

Cushy job? Do you have any idea the time away from home these coaches spend on the road for games and recruiting??? Or the hours they put in working with admissions, fund raising, coaching, mentoring etc. the two hours on the field is like a lunch break... Practice in inclement weather. Early practices and conditioning... You are clueless.

Coaches relative picked as a Newsday top 100, such an embarrassment

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cushy job? Do you have any idea the time away from home these coaches spend on the road for games and recruiting??? Or the hours they put in working with admissions, fund raising, coaching, mentoring etc. the two hours on the field is like a lunch break... Practice in inclement weather. Early practices and conditioning... You are clueless.

Beats the LIRR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cushy job? Do you have any idea the time away from home these coaches spend on the road for games and recruiting??? Or the hours they put in working with admissions, fund raising, coaching, mentoring etc. the two hours on the field is like a lunch break... Practice in inclement weather. Early practices and conditioning... You are clueless.

Beats the LIRR

On or close brother. On or close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No such game on schedule.

Let the stat padding begin in those blowout games...first week of the season smh...

LAX for the Cure Individual Showcase (2020 & 2021)- money grab ?? Anyone attended in past ?

And the first award for poor sportsmanship goes to North Babylon . The AD, the coach , the parents , the kid should all be embarrassed of themselves . You beat a team in the first varsity game in their programs history 19-1 but that's not what's bad . You have some ball hog barely average player score 9 goals and 5 assists against essentially a JV team , congrats mom and dad now you realize why no one wants to play on the same team , you must be so proud .

Not every coach does that. We have an idiot who subs out full lines if there is a 5 goal lead. Tells top scorers "no more than 8 points a game" or its bad sportsmanship- I'm totally serious. No cuts in our district and if girls are lucky they have an 90 minute practice. Just doesn't care, yet questions moral of team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first award for poor sportsmanship goes to North Babylon . The AD, the coach , the parents , the kid should all be embarrassed of themselves . You beat a team in the first varsity game in their programs history 19-1 but that's not what's bad . You have some ball hog barely average player score 9 goals and 5 assists against essentially a JV team , congrats mom and dad now you realize why no one wants to play on the same team , you must be so proud .

North Babylon will be on the receiving end of some of those beatings too this year. They will know exactly how Port Jefferson felt today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not every coach does that. We have an idiot who subs out full lines if there is a 5 goal lead. Tells top scorers "no more than 8 points a game" or its bad sportsmanship- I'm totally serious. No cuts in our district and if girls are lucky they have an 90 minute practice. Just doesn't care, yet questions moral of team.

Is this sarcasm (I hope)??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not every coach does that. We have an idiot who subs out full lines if there is a 5 goal lead. Tells top scorers "no more than 8 points a game" or its bad sportsmanship- I'm totally serious. No cuts in our district and if girls are lucky they have an 90 minute practice. Just doesn't care, yet questions moral of team.

sounds like a level headed individual with some priorities and understands this is just a game Fokker. 8 points?? that so unreasonable??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

In 1980, Michael Jordan was suspended from school for taking a test with his tongue out. UNC honored their verbal.......and the rest is history.

stupid comment. apples and oranges. watch any March Madness in your lifetime?? big money at stake

we're streaming games on laptops while there's 30 fans in the stands watching... wake up

I second the dumb program who let a kid score 9 goals and 5 assists against a new program. Agree 100% that the AD and coach should get some backlash from sectionx1. What the [lacrosse] is wrong with people - are they that stupid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first award for poor sportsmanship goes to North Babylon . The AD, the coach , the parents , the kid should all be embarrassed of themselves . You beat a team in the first varsity game in their programs history 19-1 but that's not what's bad . You have some ball hog barely average player score 9 goals and 5 assists against essentially a JV team , congrats mom and dad now you realize why no one wants to play on the same team , you must be so proud .

North Babylon will be on the receiving end of some of those beatings too this year. They will know exactly how Port Jefferson felt today.

. She's just doing what she was taught. It's the yellow jacket away. Beat up on teams by an 18 goal margin and let one kid get 14 points

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I always thought pre season scrimmages were used to look at the entire roster, this way when you never see the field during the season the coach has the answer that your scrimmage play wasn't up to game play standards. Am I wrong?

Yes. Pre-season scrimmages are to fine tune in game situations for the games that count. The coach has previous seasons, summer league, winter league, open gyms, practice, etc., etc. to evaluate talent and determine who is going to play. There might be 1 or 2 positions that come down to a 50/50 decision between 2 girls, but any coach who has been paying attention should have a pretty good idea of his or her lineup well before the first scrimmage. More girls are likely to play during a scrimmage, but it's usually not to evaluate talent, just to give them a chance to see some game action or to give the regulars a break. (And no, my daughter is not one of the superstars, just being realistic.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

In 1980, Michael Jordan was suspended from school for taking a test with his tongue out. UNC honored their verbal.......and the rest is history.

stupid comment. apples and oranges. watch any March Madness in your lifetime?? big money at stake

we're streaming games on laptops while there's 30 fans in the stands watching... wake up

What the heck are you talking about?

Our V coach does the same thing.
If you score too much she takes you out if our lead is more than 5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first award for poor sportsmanship goes to North Babylon . The AD, the coach , the parents , the kid should all be embarrassed of themselves . You beat a team in the first varsity game in their programs history 19-1 but that's not what's bad . You have some ball hog barely average player score 9 goals and 5 assists against essentially a JV team , congrats mom and dad now you realize why no one wants to play on the same team , you must be so proud .

Coaching is just plain weak. We have a coach who didn't sub in a scrimmage. And people wonder why the sport has issues. It's the haves and the have not's. People just look out for themselves. This stopped being a team game years ago. 19-1? Give me a break! But there will be the apologists that will say its not their fault that the other team cant keep up. I will concede that point but 14 points by someone? Take her out. Make her paly defense or tell het she has to get everyone else on the team a goal before she can shoot again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not every coach does that. We have an idiot who subs out full lines if there is a 5 goal lead. Tells top scorers "no more than 8 points a game" or its bad sportsmanship- I'm totally serious. No cuts in our district and if girls are lucky they have an 90 minute practice. Just doesn't care, yet questions moral of team.

sounds like a level headed individual with some priorities and understands this is just a game Fokker. 8 points?? that so unreasonable??

I was thinking the same thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first award for poor sportsmanship goes to North Babylon . The AD, the coach , the parents , the kid should all be embarrassed of themselves . You beat a team in the first varsity game in their programs history 19-1 but that's not what's bad . You have some ball hog barely average player score 9 goals and 5 assists against essentially a JV team , congrats mom and dad now you realize why no one wants to play on the same team , you must be so proud .

Way to take your foot off the gas coach!!
Feel bad for the girls at practice today......you know they're running some extra sprints since they didn't get the shutout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first award for poor sportsmanship goes to North Babylon . The AD, the coach , the parents , the kid should all be embarrassed of themselves . You beat a team in the first varsity game in their programs history 19-1 but that's not what's bad . You have some ball hog barely average player score 9 goals and 5 assists against essentially a JV team , congrats mom and dad now you realize why no one wants to play on the same team , you must be so proud .

Coaching is just plain weak. We have a coach who didn't sub in a scrimmage. And people wonder why the sport has issues. It's the haves and the have not's. People just look out for themselves. This stopped being a team game years ago. 19-1? Give me a break! But there will be the apologists that will say its not their fault that the other team cant keep up. I will concede that point but 14 points by someone? Take her out. Make her paly defense or tell het she has to get everyone else on the team a goal before she can shoot again

I completely agree. My daughter's coaches are complete idiots. The head coach knows nothing about the sport. He never played boys lacrosse and doesn't understand the nuances of the girls game at all. They run the same play over and over and over and over and expect results. It's pure lunacy. There is no subbing at all. The team has 9 or 10 girls already that will be playing college ball and the team will be lucky to win 2 games.

I hope they can be consistent with that level of scoring against other schools! That present a much greater challenge or that will look really sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not every coach does that. We have an idiot who subs out full lines if there is a 5 goal lead. Tells top scorers "no more than 8 points a game" or its bad sportsmanship- I'm totally serious. No cuts in our district and if girls are lucky they have an 90 minute practice. Just doesn't care, yet questions moral of team.

sounds like a level headed individual with some priorities and understands this is just a game Fokker. 8 points?? that so unreasonable??

I was thinking the same thing.

Sounds like a Travel moms original post me me me . Getting the TEAM INVOLVED in games you are up big and trying to foster a team game by not having the same kid score 10 goals seems like a pretty good try by the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

In 1980, Michael Jordan was suspended from school for taking a test with his tongue out. UNC honored their verbal.......and the rest is history.

stupid comment. apples and oranges. watch any March Madness in your lifetime?? big money at stake

we're streaming games on laptops while there's 30 fans in the stands watching... wake up

Jackass.....it was a joke. Did you really fall for the "taking a test with his tongue out"? Are you the same guy that fell for the banana in the tailpipe? You need a timeout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

In 1980, Michael Jordan was suspended from school for taking a test with his tongue out. UNC honored their verbal.......and the rest is history.

stupid comment. apples and oranges. watch any March Madness in your lifetime?? big money at stake

we're streaming games on laptops while there's 30 fans in the stands watching... wake up

What the heck are you talking about?

the point is don't compare a mega star in a profitable sport to some gum chewer from LI club sports. if they had known how big MJ would get he could have taken a test with something else hanging out and Dean Smith wouldn't have cared.

stars get special treatment. the way of the world..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

In 1980, Michael Jordan was suspended from school for taking a test with his tongue out. UNC honored their verbal.......and the rest is history.

stupid comment. apples and oranges. watch any March Madness in your lifetime?? big money at stake

we're streaming games on laptops while there's 30 fans in the stands watching... wake up

Jackass.....it was a joke. Did you really fall for the "taking a test with his tongue out"? Are you the same guy that fell for the banana in the tailpipe? You need a timeout.

stop posting. you'll ruin the resolution on your webcast. maybe you can listen on the college radio station..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know everyone on Carolina never got into trouble or made a mistake. Kid can play and that's what matters.

In 1980, Michael Jordan was suspended from school for taking a test with his tongue out. UNC honored their verbal.......and the rest is history.

stupid comment. apples and oranges. watch any March Madness in your lifetime?? big money at stake

we're streaming games on laptops while there's 30 fans in the stands watching... wake up

Jackass.....it was a joke. Did you really fall for the "taking a test with his tongue out"? Are you the same guy that fell for the banana in the tailpipe? You need a timeout.

stop posting. you'll ruin the resolution on your webcast. maybe you can listen on the college radio station..

heard the new on about UNC basketball players getting credit for being in Sweet 16.

GC 8 Port Wash 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC 8 Port Wash 5

Close, is Port Wash up or GC down?

This girls "helmet" thing is the absolutely dumbest idea I've ever seem. Please stop this nonsense!

Can helmets play non helmet wearing teams? Is there a rule?

Seems districts are taking the safe way out to avoid litigation and are making decisions on helmets without facts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can helmets play non helmet wearing teams? Is there a rule?

Seems districts are taking the safe way out to avoid litigation and are making decisions on helmets without facts

Helmets have played non-helmets in scrimmages and non-league games so far - could change for league games, but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This girls "helmet" thing is the absolutely dumbest idea I've ever seem. Please stop this nonsense!

What's dumb - wearing them or debating about wearing them? Not sure what you're saying.

From Newsleader.com July,2016
Sports like girls soccer have been calculated to result in 33 concussions per 100,000 player outings and wrestling has about 24 concussions per 100,000 player outings a year, according to The Head Case Co. In comparison, the most recent study — completed in 2012 — shows that at least one football player sustains a concussion for every game played.

On the same note, while soccer has fewer concussions per year when compared to football, the severity of concussions sustained in soccer is significantly higher.

In the entire article girls lacrosse was never mentioned...

my daughter's friend plays on a team where they are all forced to wear them and she says she has a headache during and after every time she wears the head gear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can helmets play non helmet wearing teams? Is there a rule?

Seems districts are taking the safe way out to avoid litigation and are making decisions on helmets without facts

Not safer, not even protective, its garbage!! Most concussions soccer in soccer, fact! Why are they not forced to wear helmets, ridiculous! The only one benefiting from this is Cascade!

Head gear is optional. Any player can choose to wear itnor not. I am not sure if it is legal for the district or state to make girls wear it. I do know that if my daughter is made to wear it she will not be happy

Our district offered it too. It's not mandatory and none of the girls on our team are wearing it.

I saw a Syracuse player wore it when they played Florida a week or so ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can helmets play non helmet wearing teams? Is there a rule?

Seems districts are taking the safe way out to avoid litigation and are making decisions on helmets without facts

Not safer, not even protective, its garbage!! Most concussions soccer in soccer, fact! Why are they not forced to wear helmets, ridiculous! The only one benefiting from this is Cascade!

So the ASTM standard is garbage? Where do you come up with the notion that it is not protective? No headgear for any type of sports claims to prevent a concussion. Different types of headgear have been approved for wear in the past but now people are paying attention. It does protect players from stick and ball contact to the head and face.

As far as non headgear vs teams wearing them, there is currently no rule on the books. It's an optional piece of equipment that some programs have chosen to use. Approved for use at all levels.

My kids have had between them 3 diagnosed concussions and 1 suspected. I have spent too much time at the St. Charles concussion clinic. They told me that helmets do NOTHING toward preventing concussion. All helmets do is protect against skull fractures and lacerations.

Concussion is caused by the brain rattling around inside the skull. As such, you can see that a helmet is not going to alleviate that motion at all. Concussions happen often when one's head is whiplashed, not from a blow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kids have had between them 3 diagnosed concussions and 1 suspected. I have spent too much time at the St. Charles concussion clinic. They told me that helmets do NOTHING toward preventing concussion. All helmets do is protect against skull fractures and lacerations.

Concussion is caused by the brain rattling around inside the skull. As such, you can see that a helmet is not going to alleviate that motion at all. Concussions happen often when one's head is whiplashed, not from a blow.

You are correct, the headgear will not prevent a concussion.
Like I said in my previous post, no helmet is designed to prevent a concussion. I think Cascade states it's not designed to prevent a concussion. I think It will help youth level kids who get hit with an errant pass or shot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can helmets play non helmet wearing teams? Is there a rule?

Seems districts are taking the safe way out to avoid litigation and are making decisions on helmets without facts

Not safer, not even protective, its garbage!! Most concussions soccer in soccer, fact! Why are they not forced to wear helmets, ridiculous! The only one benefiting from this is Cascade!

So the ASTM standard is garbage? Where do you come up with the notion that it is not protective? No headgear for any type of sports claims to prevent a concussion. Different types of headgear have been approved for wear in the past but now people are paying attention. It does protect players from stick and ball contact to the head and face.

As far as non headgear vs teams wearing them, there is currently no rule on the books. It's an optional piece of equipment that some programs have chosen to use. Approved for use at all levels.

It's garbage, Cascade money grab. If soccer doesn't wear then, neither should lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can helmets play non helmet wearing teams? Is there a rule?

Seems districts are taking the safe way out to avoid litigation and are making decisions on helmets without facts

Not safer, not even protective, its garbage!! Most concussions soccer in soccer, fact! Why are they not forced to wear helmets, ridiculous! The only one benefiting from this is Cascade!

So the ASTM standard is garbage? Where do you come up with the notion that it is not protective? No headgear for any type of sports claims to prevent a concussion. Different types of headgear have been approved for wear in the past but now people are paying attention. It does protect players from stick and ball contact to the head and face.

As far as non headgear vs teams wearing them, there is currently no rule on the books. It's an optional piece of equipment that some programs have chosen to use. Approved for use at all levels.

serious question- so HARD head gear can be worn against a team not wearing any head gear and the game is played? Or it has to be the soft head gear from a few years ago? My question is for the new hard ones with built in goggles

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Division Ave mandates girls wear them. Girls come home with headaches, helmets are too tight or too loose, and a significant part of eye area not covered. AD received money from a politician who may or may not have invested in cascade. It's a shame more research wasn't done before this nonsense was mandated. Any legal eagles on this site know if a district can mandate/enforce this if there are no NYS mandates?

My daughters team played a team all wearing helmets, with the same exact color helmet and jersey as the goalie. every shuffle in front of the net you could not pick out defenders from the goalie. Problem here is it gets very confusing when a girls shoots on net. When a defender gets mistaken for a goalie and takes an 80 mph shot to the head, throat, chest. Then what? Disaster and lawsuit waiting to happen.

OK, hold on here a minute. If I'm not mistaken, girls and boys use the same hard rubber lacrosse ball, and boys and girls heads are made of the same flesh and bones which are designed to protect the brain. So, if a ball traveling at 50 mph can damage a boys head, who is required to wear a helmet to protect his head, why isn't that same ball, also traveling at 50 mph, not going to damage a girls head? If your daughter cannot tell the difference between a goalie and a defender then you have bigger problems than worrying about whether or not a district can mandate your daughter to wear a helmet. Why is everyone bugging out about protecting their daughter's heads? It may not be required now but it most likely will be next year. Stop worrying about why districts are making an effort to protect your daughter's brains or who benefits financially from it and be happy that your daughter's head will be protected from potential brain damage.

Boys can also whack each other with the sticks, girls is supposedly " non contact". Plus there is a huge difference between this soft head gear and a boys/goalie helmet. If the new soft head gear could actually prevent some concussions more people would be on board

Dude, you really couldn't distinguish the goalie from other players based on some half a helmet head-piece?
the helmet covered the #'s too?...
wow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK, hold on here a minute. If I'm not mistaken, girls and boys use the same hard rubber lacrosse ball, and boys and girls heads are made of the same flesh and bones which are designed to protect the brain. So, if a ball traveling at 50 mph can damage a boys head, who is required to wear a helmet to protect his head, why isn't that same ball, also traveling at 50 mph, not going to damage a girls head? If your daughter cannot tell the difference between a goalie and a defender then you have bigger problems than worrying about whether or not a district can mandate your daughter to wear a helmet. Why is everyone bugging out about protecting their daughter's heads? It may not be required now but it most likely will be next year. Stop worrying about why districts are making an effort to protect your daughter's brains or who benefits financially from it and be happy that your daughter's head will be protected from potential brain damage.

Because it's a dumb idea. Not the way the game is intended to play. You are an idiot if you think this is going to do anything but look and feel horrible. Sounds like your daughter should play tennis. Wuss

Girls should wear full gear like boys and let it be the contact sport it is. It makes no sense that they don't. Same stick, same ball yet no protection besides goggles. No arm or chest pads. Can't believe you don't hear more of girls getting hit in the chest or head with the ball. Girls would prefer to wear all the gear too. Unless you don't like contact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Girls should wear full gear like boys and let it be the contact sport it is. It makes no sense that they don't. Same stick, same ball yet no protection besides goggles. No arm or chest pads. Can't believe you don't hear more of girls getting hit in the chest or head with the ball. Girls would prefer to wear all the gear too. Unless you don't like contact.

Dumbest, most uninformed post ever on this site

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Girls should wear full gear like boys and let it be the contact sport it is. It makes no sense that they don't. Same stick, same ball yet no protection besides goggles. No arm or chest pads. Can't believe you don't hear more of girls getting hit in the chest or head with the ball. Girls would prefer to wear all the gear too. Unless you don't like contact.

I would be for that.....and I am way against the dumb "helmet"

If coaches and parents weren't so idiotic over a stupid game either then the kids wouldn't be so out of control. The parents and coaches are just as much to blame as the refs. The sideline behavior from coaches and parents trickles down to the kids. In all sports, oh no my daughter got tripped in soccer, lets start throwing a fit on the sideline and go crazy and tell your child to take the kid out next time. Great parenting is what causes most problems. Keep parents away from games and the games seem to run much smoother.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Girls should wear full gear like boys and let it be the contact sport it is. It makes no sense that they don't. Same stick, same ball yet no protection besides goggles. No arm or chest pads. Can't believe you don't hear more of girls getting hit in the chest or head with the ball. Girls would prefer to wear all the gear too. Unless you don't like contact.

I would like that and I think my daughter would too. I'll have to ask her. If you don't like contact, then take up bowling or archery.

It's not lacrosse' for girls'. It's a different game then boys lacrosse. There is or should be more finesse, more skill( due to the lack of pocket). Boys lacrosse is great but it's not the same as girls nor should it be. Parents want the contract. The girls understand and for the most part appreciate the nuances .

Why is it dumb? Why should the girls play a different game. Talk about being sexist! Basketball, soccer etc are the same as boys. No differences. Girls who can't handle it won't play. But at least they will be a little safer playing it! Actually makes a lot of sense. Or else make the ball lighter and sticks too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Girls should wear full gear like boys and let it be the contact sport it is. It makes no sense that they don't. Same stick, same ball yet no protection besides goggles. No arm or chest pads. Can't believe you don't hear more of girls getting hit in the chest or head with the ball. Girls would prefer to wear all the gear too. Unless you don't like contact.

I would be for that.....and I am way against the dumb "helmet"

I second. Ice Hockey is the best example. Same gear, girls or boys.

You take any child between the age of 5 and 7, girl or boy, and give them a choice between wearing a helmet, gearing up and smashing stuff or trying to catch a ball with a tennis racquet they will pick the former.

Another example is the Canadians and Native Americans and box lacrosse. Mixed teams, same gear. With the reservation kids you can't even tell them apart because they all have a black braid hanging out of the back of their helmets.

It's not sexist...They are two different games. Unlike soccer or hockey men's and women's lacrosse are not the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Well, it seems clear. People are divided over this issue. Either totally for or against. I think it will not become popular and fade away, not enough support or evidence that it will do any more than look hideous!

So your kid wears it

Some of you people are complete idiots . Have them wear the same equipment as the men and play the men's game to prevent injuries . Great idea Einstein except there are more injuries in the men's game including a higher incidence of concussions . Not sure why the uproar about the soft shell helmets as it's a personal choice and hopefully it does not become mandated .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not sexist...They are two different games. Unlike soccer or hockey men's and women's lacrosse are not the same.

Agreed. One is lacrosse and the other needs to be renamed something else to avoid confusion. Boys should be able to play it also, just like flag football. Nothing wrong with that.

What teams are wearing helmets?

Did the school provide them?

Who is responsible for the decision, the coach or district administration?

How long before the first lawsuit is filed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams are wearing helmets?

Did the school provide them?

Who is responsible for the decision, the coach or district administration?

How long before the first lawsuit is filed?

No parent is suing a school if they provide helmets for a team in the name of "safety" get real. Whether they are safer or not unfortunately the optics that they are safer is going to push more school districts to follow. Blame the 1st schools that did it because they are going to suck everyone down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Girls Lax has the worst officials an any sport my daughter has ever played. The non calls and lack of ejections have brought this on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of you people are complete idiots . Have them wear the same equipment as the men and play the men's game to prevent injuries . Great idea Einstein except there are more injuries in the men's game including a higher incidence of concussions . Not sure why the uproar about the soft shell helmets as it's a personal choice and hopefully it does not become mandated .

I agree with you except for the last part - some of the schools are mandating it, varsity through MS.

Why don't we just require all school kids to walk around with helmets as they go about their days activities, in the interest of safety of course. If a kid refuses and trips in the playground then a lawsuit can be filed. Absolutely Rediculous! This helmet thing is the product of the snowflake lawsuit parenting. Sick of it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don't we just require all school kids to walk around with helmets as they go about their days activities, in the interest of safety of course. If a kid refuses and trips in the playground then a lawsuit can be filed. Absolutely Rediculous! This helmet thing is the product of the snowflake lawsuit parenting. Sick of it!

Train has left the station. We all know AD's and school boards hate confrontation or controversy. That's why good coaches get fired and bad ones stay on. The fact the some uninformed districts on LI have started with helmets they all will follow and then when people see it doesn't adversely affect the game everyone will adopt. All because of bad officiating and clubs coaching players to bend the rules. Those are the two culprits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Simplify the rules. Stop the offensive ball hogs charging into defensive players. Stop rewarding offensive players who run into triple teams only to be rewarded with a free position. Stop the horizontal stick to body. Stop the stick swinging checks. All those go to player safety. Stop calling the empty stick checks which are not safety related and cause unnecessary stoppages. Those are just a few items.

Those pushing helmets, equipment etc are unknowledgeable people stirring the pot. The soft helmets provide no "concussion" protection. No helmet does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Girls Lax has the worst officials an any sport my daughter has ever played. The non calls and lack of ejections have brought this on.

You guys must be fathers of girls that play attack. As the father of a defender, I'd say if the officials would call charges when a girl tries to power through two defenders then things wouldn't get out of hand. You know the girl, starts on the 8, doesn't look to pass and tries to beat three girls, gets stopped but then the ref calls a foul and she gets a FP. Terrible officiating, let them play some D.

It can go both ways depending on your perspective. I do agree, the officiating in girls lacrosse stinks.

It will do more than wearing nothing at all if they get hit in the head with the ball or a stick. If you are concerned about how your daughter looks on the lacrosse field maybe she should be in beauty pageants instead of playing lacrosse. My daughter played and suffered a concussion from taking a shot to the head - and yes, she was a good player, and certainly not a "WUSS" as you so eloquently put it. It will not be a choice you need to make for you daughter much longer. It will be a mandatory piece of equipment shortly. If you feel strongly enough that the current style of helmet does not provide you daughter with enough protection, contact somebody at Cascade and voice your concern rather than spewing your ridiculous opinion on a message board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams are wearing helmets?

Did the school provide them?

Who is responsible for the decision, the coach or district administration?

How long before the first lawsuit is filed?

No parent is suing a school if they provide helmets for a team in the name of "safety" get real. Whether they are safer or not unfortunately the optics that they are safer is going to push more school districts to follow. Blame the 1st schools that did it because they are going to suck everyone down

You are correct. The girls with the helmets will not be during. The lawsuit will be from a girl who got hurt playing against a girl who was allowed to wear a helmet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will do more than wearing nothing at all if they get hit in the head with the ball or a stick. If you are concerned about how your daughter looks on the lacrosse field maybe she should be in beauty pageants instead of playing lacrosse. My daughter played and suffered a concussion from taking a shot to the head - and yes, she was a good player, and certainly not a "WUSS" as you so eloquently put it. It will not be a choice you need to make for you daughter much longer. It will be a mandatory piece of equipment shortly. If you feel strongly enough that the current style of helmet does not provide you daughter with enough protection, contact somebody at Cascade and voice your concern rather than spewing your ridiculous opinion on a message board.

Wrong!

My daughter's team played a team with helmets. The one thing that I noticed and I wonder if there is a cause/effect relationship, is that the team with helmets got carded several times (at least 4-5 times) for making contact with the head, and a few early that were close and not called, just called as a regular foul. My thought is, are the girls who are playing defense on a team (or this team) used to practicing against teammates with helmets, so they are not as disciplined with stick control on checks. Are they getting more free with their sticks against teammates with helmets without really knowing it, and is it possible that coaches aren't catching and correcting, because a glancing blow to a helmet doesn't get the same reaction as a bare head during practices? Just an initial thought, but it does warrant consideration.

if more yellow and red cards were handed out it would change how the girls play. Now they try and charge to get FP shots, check over girls heads..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Girls Lax has the worst officials an any sport my daughter has ever played. The non calls and lack of ejections have brought this on.

You guys must be fathers of girls that play attack. As the father of a defender, I'd say if the officials would call charges when a girl tries to power through two defenders then things wouldn't get out of hand. You know the girl, starts on the 8, doesn't look to pass and tries to beat three girls, gets stopped but then the ref calls a foul and she gets a FP. Terrible officiating, let them play some D.

It can go both ways depending on your perspective. I do agree, the officiating in girls lacrosse stinks.

I have to agree on that- the lack of charge calling is just plain silly. If you aren't going to call charges, you shouldn't be calling nonsense obstructions. Either the rules should be followed or not. The officiating is the worst- especially but tourneys where they need a huge amt of refs... quality goes even worse.

Originally Posted by strongARM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Girls Lax has the worst officials an any sport my daughter has ever played. The non calls and lack of ejections have brought this on.

You guys must be fathers of girls that play attack. As the father of a defender, I'd say if the officials would call charges when a girl tries to power through two defenders then things wouldn't get out of hand. You know the girl, starts on the 8, doesn't look to pass and tries to beat three girls, gets stopped but then the ref calls a foul and she gets a FP. Terrible officiating, let them play some D.

It can go both ways depending on your perspective. I do agree, the officiating in girls lacrosse stinks.

I have to agree on that- the lack of charge calling is just plain silly. If you aren't going to call charges, you shouldn't be calling nonsense obstructions. Either the rules should be followed or not. The officiating is the worst- especially but tourneys where they need a huge amt of refs... quality goes even worse.

I agree on summer refs and its worse because club teams preach rule bending and aggressive play

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

totally agree it is almost unwatchable much of the time. maybe borrow from basketball the tunning violation total?? a team gets five violations a player has to go off, or a free position?

its so physical it take away from the natural athleticism some of these girls have.. just call the rule book!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by strongARM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Girls Lax has the worst officials an any sport my daughter has ever played. The non calls and lack of ejections have brought this on.

You guys must be fathers of girls that play attack. As the father of a defender, I'd say if the officials would call charges when a girl tries to power through two defenders then things wouldn't get out of hand. You know the girl, starts on the 8, doesn't look to pass and tries to beat three girls, gets stopped but then the ref calls a foul and she gets a FP. Terrible officiating, let them play some D.

It can go both ways depending on your perspective. I do agree, the officiating in girls lacrosse stinks.

I have to agree on that- the lack of charge calling is just plain silly. If you aren't going to call charges, you shouldn't be calling nonsense obstructions. Either the rules should be followed or not. The officiating is the worst- especially but tourneys where they need a huge amt of refs... quality goes even worse.

I agree on summer refs and its worse because club teams preach rule bending and aggressive play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by strongARM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Girls Lax has the worst officials an any sport my daughter has ever played. The non calls and lack of ejections have brought this on.

You guys must be fathers of girls that play attack. As the father of a defender, I'd say if the officials would call charges when a girl tries to power through two defenders then things wouldn't get out of hand. You know the girl, starts on the 8, doesn't look to pass and tries to beat three girls, gets stopped but then the ref calls a foul and she gets a FP. Terrible officiating, let them play some D.

It can go both ways depending on your perspective. I do agree, the officiating in girls lacrosse stinks.

I have to agree on that- the lack of charge calling is just plain silly. If you aren't going to call charges, you shouldn't be calling nonsense obstructions. Either the rules should be followed or not. The officiating is the worst- especially but tourneys where they need a huge amt of refs... quality goes even worse.

I agree on summer refs and its worse because club teams preach rule bending and aggressive play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by strongARM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if refs called the hacking and threw kids out of games like the rules states helmets wouldn't be talked about. This is a result of poor officiating and teams and coaches taking advantage of poor officiating to bend and stretch the rules.

Right on the button exactly right. Might as well not even have a rule book.

Girls Lax has the worst officials an any sport my daughter has ever played. The non calls and lack of ejections have brought this on.

You guys must be fathers of girls that play attack. As the father of a defender, I'd say if the officials would call charges when a girl tries to power through two defenders then things wouldn't get out of hand. You know the girl, starts on the 8, doesn't look to pass and tries to beat three girls, gets stopped but then the ref calls a foul and she gets a FP. Terrible officiating, let them play some D.

It can go both ways depending on your perspective. I do agree, the officiating in girls lacrosse stinks.

I have to agree on that- the lack of charge calling is just plain silly. If you aren't going to call charges, you shouldn't be calling nonsense obstructions. Either the rules should be followed or not. The officiating is the worst- especially but tourneys where they need a huge amt of refs... quality goes even worse.

I agree on summer refs and its worse because club teams preach rule bending and aggressive play

I've got news for you. My kid plays D1 and I'd say with no exaggeration that at least once per game, and often more frequently, the refs have to have a little confab amongst themselves to figure out a call. It's a total joke. Last year our coach literally showed a ref the rule book and the ref told her "that's not how I'm calling it today ."

Anyone going to this Manhasset play day tomorrow? Are they actually playing 3 games?? Who the [lacrosse] thinks its a good idea to play 3 games against top competition?? These coaches don't give a rats about anyone's health out there. All about them, their egos, and winning at all costs. Sick

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to this Manhasset play day tomorrow? Are they actually playing 3 games?? Who the [lacrosse] thinks its a good idea to play 3 games against top competition?? These coaches don't give a rats about anyone's health out there. All about them, their egos, and winning at all costs. Sick

They are playing 3 35 minute scrimmages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

No worse than travel ball. Except travel will do it two days in a row.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

They are scrimmages you moron, this is a good way to build some stamina, see how the players mesh, etc.

It's also good to see how players perform at the end when they are tired. Seems like a great idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

I'll be there today. Wearing a Tennessee Volunteers hat. Come on up to me like a man and tell me to grow up. Mister f bomb. Lets see how tough you are in person. Meat head.

wow real tough guy on our hands here. This is my point about the parents are to blame for the games being out of control. Idiot parents on the sidelines who are tough guys, yelling and screaming the whole game like a bunch of meatheads. Get rid of the parents and the games won't be so rough. Refs can refs, players can play without the distraction of a bunch of idiot parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

I'll be there today. Wearing a Tennessee Volunteers hat. Come on up to me like a man and tell me to grow up. Mister f bomb. Lets see how tough you are in person. Meat head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow real tough guy on our hands here. This is my point about the parents are to blame for the games being out of control. Idiot parents on the sidelines who are tough guys, yelling and screaming the whole game like a bunch of meatheads. Get rid of the parents and the games won't be so rough. Refs can refs, players can play without the distraction of a bunch of idiot parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

I'll be there today. Wearing a Tennessee Volunteers hat. Come on up to me like a man and tell me to grow up. Mister f bomb. Lets see how tough you are in person. Meat head.

How long did it take you to pick out that outfit? Tough guy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

Maybe you should take your daughter shopping instead. You can wander around the mall where it's nice and warm, get your nails done, have something to eat - a nice girls day out.

Thanks fellas, keep playing us up as the most hated parents and sideline in all of sport. Girls lax has been hijacked by clubs and idiot parents like you. soooooooo tough to root for anyone except your own kid. sad, very sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

I'll be there today. Wearing a Tennessee Volunteers hat. Come on up to me like a man and tell me to grow up. Mister f bomb. Lets see how tough you are in person. Meat head.

Everyone was laughing about you! F'ing loser!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

I'll be there today. Wearing a Tennessee Volunteers hat. Come on up to me like a man and tell me to grow up. Mister f bomb. Lets see how tough you are in person. Meat head.

Makes me want to come up to the moron in the Tenn Hat and just tell him he is a moron for saying that... don't even know who's arguing, but he will be an embarrassment to his daughter when he shows up wearing that hat walking around like a tough guy. Bet ya daughter is proud, unless you verbally abused her into submission already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to this Manhasset play day tomorrow? Are they actually playing 3 games?? Who the [lacrosse] thinks its a good idea to play 3 games against top competition?? These coaches don't give a rats about anyone's health out there. All about them, their egos, and winning at all costs. Sick

Still shorter than an ordinary practice. Isn't this what the girls work for, a chance to play. I bet you also complain cause you daughter doesn't get into regular games. SMH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

I'll be there today. Wearing a Tennessee Volunteers hat. Come on up to me like a man and tell me to grow up. Mister f bomb. Lets see how tough you are in person. Meat head.

I wish I would have read this earlier , the funny part is I noticed some fat jack a-- on the sideline , at first I thought it was a loud mouth women but I guess I was wrong because they were wearing a Tennessee hat. Time to start eating some salads , fake tuff guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand your rant? My daughters team is going and they can't wait a fun day where everyone gets to play and get better!! The results are meaningless just work on improvement and let everybody play. What's wrong with that?

Well if 3 games is good, why not let's play four or five!!! They have had lots of practice outside after all, on full fields with the nice March weather and all. Lets put the hammer down on this season!!!

You really are a loser .Grow the f up .

I'll be there today. Wearing a Tennessee Volunteers hat. Come on up to me like a man and tell me to grow up. Mister f bomb. Lets see how tough you are in person. Meat head.

I wish I would have read this earlier , the funny part is I noticed some fat jack a-- on the sideline , at first I thought it was a loud mouth women but I guess I was wrong because they were wearing a Tennessee hat. Time to start eating some salads , fake tuff guy.

Haha......I saw that clown. I know you can put your own stupid hat on, but who ties your shoes?

you guys have no clue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you guys have no clue

Could we actually talk any HS lacrosse in the room? I thought GC looked very sharp. Some rust on all the teams which is understandable obviously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

totally agree it is almost unwatchable much of the time. maybe borrow from basketball the tunning violation total?? a team gets five violations a player has to go off, or a free position?

its so physical it take away from the natural athleticism some of these girls have.. just call the rule book!!!

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul.

I know the rules dbag...would rather take my chance with free position shot than have a full on one on one break distinct advantage to offensive player ....and obviously, there are spots where you want to foul and spots on field where you don't ...but any stoppage of play breaks the momentum, and net-net that's a positive for the defense. But either way, girls game has become awful with refs who have no clue and rules that have no teeth.
but to each her own....

Stat padding has begun at some horrible schools. When will everyone learn to be successful you need to play as a team?

tell you when that happens...when some brave coach puts in Newsday under players to watch pre-season preview, "The Whole Team"..
Don't hold your breath

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

totally agree it is almost unwatchable much of the time. maybe borrow from basketball the tunning violation total?? a team gets five violations a player has to go off, or a free position?

its so physical it take away from the natural athleticism some of these girls have.. just call the rule book!!!

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul.

Good teams will foul all the way down field to stop the break. Another tactic used all the time is to stop the break by going offsides while redefending. There is no penalty. They stop the break and sometimes cause turnover. If (thats a big if) the refs observe the offsides, the offending girl walks back over restraining line. Womens lax needs to take a look at some rules etc and make some changes.

agree....if there is no penalty other than a reset of play and making defender go a few feet behind, then offense gets screwed.....how many games in travel/HS turn into refs blowing whistle all game cause there is no penalty to defense for chippy defense?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

totally agree it is almost unwatchable much of the time. maybe borrow from basketball the tunning violation total?? a team gets five violations a player has to go off, or a free position?

its so physical it take away from the natural athleticism some of these girls have.. just call the rule book!!!

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul.

Good teams will foul all the way down field to stop the break. Another tactic used all the time is to stop the break by going offsides while redefending. There is no penalty. They stop the break and sometimes cause turnover. If (thats a big if) the refs observe the offsides, the offending girl walks back over restraining line. Womens lax needs to take a look at some rules etc and make some changes.

I have emailed every member of the rules committee the last few years. have actually gotten a few responses. they say things like safety is the number one concern and the cross check is an "area of emphasis" type deal. nothing has happened that I can see. they want it physical bottom line. no point hoping for anything else. but it makes it hard to watch for the fans that's for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

totally agree it is almost unwatchable much of the time. maybe borrow from basketball the tunning violation total?? a team gets five violations a player has to go off, or a free position?

its so physical it take away from the natural athleticism some of these girls have.. just call the rule book!!!

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul.

Good teams will foul all the way down field to stop the break. Another tactic used all the time is to stop the break by going offsides while redefending. There is no penalty. They stop the break and sometimes cause turnover. If (thats a big if) the refs observe the offsides, the offending girl walks back over restraining line. Womens lax needs to take a look at some rules etc and make some changes.

I have emailed every member of the rules committee the last few years. have actually gotten a few responses. they say things like safety is the number one concern and the cross check is an "area of emphasis" type deal. nothing has happened that I can see. they want it physical bottom line. no point hoping for anything else. but it makes it hard to watch for the fans that's for sure.

The first rule that should be enforced is charging. It gets tiring watching girls try to power through 2 and 3 defenders because they don't want to pass the ball (and attack mom is yelling "go to goal" on the sidelines). Inevitably, the refs end up calling a foul on the defender, thus reinforcing the no pass mentality. Let's start with the charging calls and go from there. Or, let the girls police it and let the D get away with a defensive cross check. Suzie won't be so quick to drive through good defense next time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

totally agree it is almost unwatchable much of the time. maybe borrow from basketball the tunning violation total?? a team gets five violations a player has to go off, or a free position?

its so physical it take away from the natural athleticism some of these girls have.. just call the rule book!!!

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul.

Good teams will foul all the way down field to stop the break. Another tactic used all the time is to stop the break by going offsides while redefending. There is no penalty. They stop the break and sometimes cause turnover. If (thats a big if) the refs observe the offsides, the offending girl walks back over restraining line. Womens lax needs to take a look at some rules etc and make some changes.

I have emailed every member of the rules committee the last few years. have actually gotten a few responses. they say things like safety is the number one concern and the cross check is an "area of emphasis" type deal. nothing has happened that I can see. they want it physical bottom line. no point hoping for anything else. but it makes it hard to watch for the fans that's for sure.

The first rule that should be enforced is charging. It gets tiring watching girls try to power through 2 and 3 defenders because they don't want to pass the ball (and attack mom is yelling "go to goal" on the sidelines). Inevitably, the refs end up calling a foul on the defender, thus reinforcing the no pass mentality. Let's start with the charging calls and go from there. Or, let the girls police it and let the D get away with a defensive cross check. Suzie won't be so quick to drive through good defense next time.

Stop crying and tell your daughter to get out of the way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best move in women's lax is to stop a break by committing a foul...as long as you stop play, its a win-win..no penalty other than offense has to re-set....why more coaches don't do it constantly is curious...not try to hurt offensive player mind you, but just a little push and play stops dead...stops a bunch of fast breaks. in bball, you do something like that on a fast break, and its a foul that hurts the defense. In women's lax, aint no big deal..until refs or rules penalize crap, the game will continue to be poorly reffed and torture to watch

totally agree it is almost unwatchable much of the time. maybe borrow from basketball the tunning violation total?? a team gets five violations a player has to go off, or a free position?

its so physical it take away from the natural athleticism some of these girls have.. just call the rule book!!!

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul.

Good teams will foul all the way down field to stop the break. Another tactic used all the time is to stop the break by going offsides while redefending. There is no penalty. They stop the break and sometimes cause turnover. If (thats a big if) the refs observe the offsides, the offending girl walks back over restraining line. Womens lax needs to take a look at some rules etc and make some changes.

I have emailed every member of the rules committee the last few years. have actually gotten a few responses. they say things like safety is the number one concern and the cross check is an "area of emphasis" type deal. nothing has happened that I can see. they want it physical bottom line. no point hoping for anything else. but it makes it hard to watch for the fans that's for sure.

The first rule that should be enforced is charging. It gets tiring watching girls try to power through 2 and 3 defenders because they don't want to pass the ball (and attack mom is yelling "go to goal" on the sidelines). Inevitably, the refs end up calling a foul on the defender, thus reinforcing the no pass mentality. Let's start with the charging calls and go from there. Or, let the girls police it and let the D get away with a defensive cross check. Suzie won't be so quick to drive through good defense next time.

My daughter plays attack but I will definitely agree with out that there are times that girls try to force their way to 2 and 3 defenders so they can shoot and if it is a charge, it should be called. There are plenty of other times that a defender fouls a player going to goal because if she gets the shot off and scores, the goal will be called back. Percentage wise, it's a smart defensive play because she may or not score on the free position. If the player going to goal isn't called for charge and gets a shot off and scores, the goal should count.

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul. [/quote]

Good teams will foul all the way down field to stop the break. Another tactic used all the time is to stop the break by going offsides while redefending. There is no penalty. They stop the break and sometimes cause turnover. If (thats a big if) the refs observe the offsides, the offending girl walks back over restraining line. Womens lax needs to take a look at some rules etc and make some changes.
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I have emailed every member of the rules committee the last few years. have actually gotten a few responses. they say things like safety is the number one concern and the cross check is an "area of emphasis" type deal. nothing has happened that I can see. they want it physical bottom line. no point hoping for anything else. but it makes it hard to watch for the fans that's for sure.

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The first rule that should be enforced is charging. It gets tiring watching girls try to power through 2 and 3 defenders because they don't want to pass the ball (and attack mom is yelling "go to goal" on the sidelines). Inevitably, the refs end up calling a foul on the defender, thus reinforcing the no pass mentality. Let's start with the charging calls and go from there. Or, let the girls police it and let the D get away with a defensive cross check. Suzie won't be so quick to drive through good defense next time.[/quote]

Stop crying and tell your daughter to get out of the way[/quote]

Yep, attack mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stat padding has begun at some horrible schools. When will everyone learn to be successful you need to play as a team?

If she scores 10 does she get ice cream?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe the idiot doesn't realize if you do it in the 8, there is a free position from that spot. Learn the rules, probably one of the idiots on the sidelines always yelling at something that isn't even a foul.

Good teams will foul all the way down field to stop the break. Another tactic used all the time is to stop the break by going offsides while redefending. There is no penalty. They stop the break and sometimes cause turnover. If (thats a big if) the refs observe the offsides, the offending girl walks back over restraining line. Womens lax needs to take a look at some rules etc and make some changes.
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I have emailed every member of the rules committee the last few years. have actually gotten a few responses. they say things like safety is the number one concern and the cross check is an "area of emphasis" type deal. nothing has happened that I can see. they want it physical bottom line. no point hoping for anything else. but it makes it hard to watch for the fans that's for sure.

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The first rule that should be enforced is charging. It gets tiring watching girls try to power through 2 and 3 defenders because they don't want to pass the ball (and attack mom is yelling "go to goal" on the sidelines). Inevitably, the refs end up calling a foul on the defender, thus reinforcing the no pass mentality. Let's start with the charging calls and go from there. Or, let the girls police it and let the D get away with a defensive cross check. Suzie won't be so quick to drive through good defense next time.[/quote]

Stop crying and tell your daughter to get out of the way[/quote]

Yep, attack mom.
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Don't cry, Attack Mom, when my defender daughter lays out your hard-charger then. Because she has before and she will again. It's her job.

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

Thanks for the update mom, mentioning your daughter along with other girls trying to disguise yourself. We all know who you are and your team is still not that good, easy you're JV, get a grip!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

REALLY?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

REALLY?

Don't take the bait...Someone's just stirring the pot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

REALLY?

Don't take the bait...Someone's just stirring the pot

Versed IS NOT A verb. Although it sounds like it is written by an adult, what adult actually uses that word??

Go watch the latest Geno Auriemma press conference. AAU teams don't play to win anymore. Todays athletes are just worried about showing off and not concerned with the teams outcome. He blames it ALL ON THE PLAYERS PARENTS for condoning and pushing the selfish play. Never happens in girls lacrosse ha ha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

REALLY?

Don't take the bait...Someone's just stirring the pot

Versed IS NOT A verb. Although it sounds like it is written by an adult, what adult actually uses that word??

Thank you - beat me to it.

guys, I do feel bad that you don't have any football players in the house to root for, but come on get a life. 'lays out your daughter.." wow, get some help before you hurt someone..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

Thanks for the update mom, mentioning your daughter along with other girls trying to disguise yourself. We all know who you are and your team is still not that good, easy you're JV, get a grip!

Can someone please explain for those of us who have no idea what you're all talking about. Thanks.

Still chuckling...JV Saint Anthony girls postings now???...what's next, Middle School updates?
lets see if half of them manage to stay in school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

REALLY?

Don't take the bait...Someone's just stirring the pot

Versed IS NOT A verb. Although it sounds like it is written by an adult, what adult actually uses that word??

Versed....hahaha.... My 9 year old says it all the time and I go ape sh*t

I guess the Elevate girls couldn't be persuaded to follow their Elevate guru to Holy Trinity?
Or did he build in some extra fees on top of the tuition and folks caught on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

guys, I do feel bad that you don't have any football players in the house to root for, but come on get a life. 'lays out your daughter.." wow, get some help before you hurt someone..

Please don't crush the little snowflake. It is beautiful like all the rest of the snowflakes and special in its own individual way. If you take enough snowflakes, you can make an ice pack. That's something useful. Put it on your daughter's bruised rib and your bruised ego. Then tell her to stop charging and pass the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the Elevate girls couldn't be persuaded to follow their Elevate guru to Holy Trinity?
Or did he build in some extra fees on top of the tuition and folks caught on?

What does that mean? Just because a girl plays on Elevate doesn't mean they have to go to Trinity. Did one of the Elevate parent coaches follow DK to Trinity?

team game pass the ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

That's the SA way, they won a girls jv basketball game 72-14 this past season and yes they were still going to the basket with a minute left in the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

That's the SA way, they won a girls jv basketball game 72-14 this past season and yes they were still going to the basket with a minute left in the game

That's not very Christian of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

guys, I do feel bad that you don't have any football players in the house to root for, but come on get a life. 'lays out your daughter.." wow, get some help before you hurt someone..

Please don't crush the little snowflake. It is beautiful like all the rest of the snowflakes and special in its own individual way. If you take enough snowflakes, you can make an ice pack. That's something useful. Put it on your daughter's bruised rib and your bruised ego. Then tell her to stop charging and pass the ball.

I imagine she could borrow the one your wife uses on her eye after she steps out of line huh? got some serious anger in yah ... yikes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the SA JV team is not pulling back this season, there are a few new key players on the team. Starting from the freak fast club hopper girl, the Elevate girls, and a YJ player. I am surprised that coach did not tell girls to relax, as they were completely outscoring the other team they versed today...

REALLY?

Don't take the bait...Someone's just stirring the pot

Versed IS NOT A verb. Although it sounds like it is written by an adult, what adult actually uses that word??

Thank you - beat me to it.

Don't you mean "beated me to it"? I guess if SA winned the game, they have every rite to posts here

Looking at the stats for Babylon vs. Port Jeff. Score was 11-6. Babylon won, scored 11 goals and had 13 assists. That's impressive!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the stats for Babylon vs. Port Jeff. Score was 11-6. Babylon won, scored 11 goals and had 13 assists. That's impressive!

IMPRESSIVE???? It's wrong. You can't have more assists than goals scored. Learn the game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the stats for Babylon vs. Port Jeff. Score was 11-6. Babylon won, scored 11 goals and had 13 assists. That's impressive!

IMPRESSIVE???? It's wrong. You can't have more assists than goals scored. Learn the game!

you are literally too stupid to make fun of..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the stats for Babylon vs. Port Jeff. Score was 11-6. Babylon won, scored 11 goals and had 13 assists. That's impressive!

IMPRESSIVE???? It's wrong. You can't have more assists than goals scored. Learn the game!

I think that is the point of the original post...maybe if it was hockey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the stats for Babylon vs. Port Jeff. Score was 11-6. Babylon won, scored 11 goals and had 13 assists. That's impressive!

IMPRESSIVE???? It's wrong. You can't have more assists than goals scored. Learn the game!

I think the poster was kidding. I Hope

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the stats for Babylon vs. Port Jeff. Score was 11-6. Babylon won, scored 11 goals and had 13 assists. That's impressive!

IMPRESSIVE???? It's wrong. You can't have more assists than goals scored. Learn the game!

I think the poster was kidding. I Hope

Yes kidding, pointing out the obvious. " Learn the game" a what a loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the stats for Babylon vs. Port Jeff. Score was 11-6. Babylon won, scored 11 goals and had 13 assists. That's impressive!

IMPRESSIVE???? It's wrong. You can't have more assists than goals scored. Learn the game!

I think the poster was kidding. I Hope

Yes kidding, pointing out the obvious. " Learn the game" a what a loser

At least they didn't run up the score on them like another team did.

Newsday announced their Top 100 today - looks like every school gets at least one.

Congrats to all but before they take almost 1 from every school they should take more from the powerhouse teams. The 6th or 7th best girl on top teams is still better the best player on weak teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to all but before they take almost 1 from every school they should take more from the powerhouse teams. The 6th or 7th best girl on top teams is still better the best player on weak teams

Not according to Newsday! Such incredible sour grapes, guess your kid is 6th or 7th on her team.

But you couldn't resist a dig either, could you? Being noted as Newsday Top 100 is a nice honor, but it's not exactly an accurate depiction. There are quite a few 6th or 7th players on teams in the power conference that are defintely better than many best players on weak teams.

yeah, we get it..the best players on the top teams are better than the top players on weaker, non-rated schools...the point is Newsday is able to sell papers and get folks reading by reaching out and including a wide selection of girls.
Relax and let the girls enjoy their day in the sun...more important fish to fry than your daughter not being on the Newsday Top 100..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to all but before they take almost 1 from every school they should take more from the powerhouse teams. The 6th or 7th best girl on top teams is still better the best player on weak teams

Not according to Newsday! Such incredible sour grapes, guess your kid is 6th or 7th on her team.

Let's not forget politics. Congrats to the girls who made it but there are a number of girls left off the list. Newsday doesn't choose, the coaches are asked who they want to list. Not an accurate picture when you are asking someone who is clueless about the game and likes to play mind games to make sure everyone knows who is in charge. Sad time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to all but before they take almost 1 from every school they should take more from the powerhouse teams. The 6th or 7th best girl on top teams is still better the best player on weak teams

Not according to Newsday! Such incredible sour grapes, guess your kid is 6th or 7th on her team.

Let's not forget politics. Congrats to the girls who made it but there are a number of girls left off the list. Newsday doesn't choose, the coaches are asked who they want to list. Not an accurate picture when you are asking someone who is clueless about the game and likes to play mind games to make sure everyone knows who is in charge. Sad time.

I think the Emmy awards suck too.......who are these people?

is this forum just to complain about refs, see whose child is the best. Can we get back to games that are being played, I heard Northport beat Smithtown West 14-3. What happened to West this year. Mt. Sinai also lost to Shoreham. Is Mt. Sinai in a rebuilding year. Lets get back to real topics and enough of the garbage.

I think several teams are rebuilding

i was very surprised by that game. expected a much closer score. mt sinai game could have gone either way. heard west islip vs sachem was a nail biter as well

So are you saying TRUMP picked the Top 100?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think several teams are rebuilding

High Schools don't rebuild, they have down years. Pro teams rebuild because they have free agency and the draft, high school and to a lesser degree colleges just have down years.

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Have to love the photo Newsday uses of the draw. Looks like girl with helmet is ducking away from a stick to the head

I didn't realize how many ignorant AD's and school districts had purchased. My bet is 75% of schools will now have next year. Everyone will be afraid of NOT offering. Elvis has left the building its over!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

My daughter will never wear a helmet - Bobby Nystrom

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Weekly sportsmanship award goes to Sayville . Could have kids padding their stats in certain games but obviously the coaches /kids/ parents get the fact that there are more important things than having your kids run up their season numbers when playing overmatched opponents . North Bab AD, coach , ballhog kid, ball hog kids parents should take notice , hopefully come post season award time other coaches realize that some ball hogs kids grossly inflated stats came against the expense of overmatched opponents and her own teammates .

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Did you say Huntington? I know you live there, but come on!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Were two games in. Little early. At this pointing would say np to take it. They beat up on sw. But sw beat up on pat med so idk when np plays mc that'll tell the tale. Wi Lois shaky at best

You need to certainly include wi in that mix as well.
Also wm and sachem north. Could be some other surprises.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weekly sportsmanship award goes to Sayville . Could have kids padding their stats in certain games but obviously the coaches /kids/ parents get the fact that there are more important things than having your kids run up their season numbers when playing overmatched opponents . North Bab AD, coach , ballhog kid, ball hog kids parents should take notice , hopefully come post season award time other coaches realize that some ball hogs kids grossly inflated stats came against the expense of overmatched opponents and her own teammates .

Don't you have some yard work to do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

My daughter will never wear a helmet - Bobby Nystrom

You're stupid. Mine won't step off the bus without one. - Pat LaFontaine

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My daughter will never wear a helmet - Bobby Nystrom
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You're stupid. Mine won't step off the bus without one. - Pat LaFontaine[/quote]

Nice!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You need to certainly include wi in that mix as well.
Also wm and sachem north. Could be some other surprises.

i would prefer to be the underdog than the front runner. Some of these teams will get better as the season progresses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weekly sportsmanship award goes to Sayville . Could have kids padding their stats in certain games but obviously the coaches /kids/ parents get the fact that there are more important things than having your kids run up their season numbers when playing overmatched opponents . North Bab AD, coach , ballhog kid, ball hog kids parents should take notice , hopefully come post season award time other coaches realize that some ball hogs kids grossly inflated stats came against the expense of overmatched opponents and her own teammates .

Don't you have some yard work to do?

I think it's nice to commend Sayville. There's little enough of that on this board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weekly sportsmanship award goes to Sayville . Could have kids padding their stats in certain games but obviously the coaches /kids/ parents get the fact that there are more important things than having your kids run up their season numbers when playing overmatched opponents . North Bab AD, coach , ballhog kid, ball hog kids parents should take notice , hopefully come post season award time other coaches realize that some ball hogs kids grossly inflated stats came against the expense of overmatched opponents and her own teammates .

Don't you have some yard work to do?

Actually I do , my guess is you don't as the mobile home park you live in must have a service plus your too busy getting your kid a box of doughnuts for every goal she scores .Keep up the good work

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weekly sportsmanship award goes to Sayville . Could have kids padding their stats in certain games but obviously the coaches /kids/ parents get the fact that there are more important things than having your kids run up their season numbers when playing overmatched opponents . North Bab AD, coach , ballhog kid, ball hog kids parents should take notice , hopefully come post season award time other coaches realize that some ball hogs kids grossly inflated stats came against the expense of overmatched opponents and her own teammates .

Don't you have some yard work to do?

Actually I do , my guess is you don't as the mobile home park you live in must have a service plus your too busy getting your kid a box of doughnuts for every goal she scores .Keep up the good work

Sayville, social media champs...keep on rolling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Ohio state attacker just got whacked in the face with a stick. Unfortunately she is the one leaving the field (to stop the bleeding) and not the defender! No card. That's why we're headed for helmets. Thanks refs..
Do you even have a rule book???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Were two games in. Little early. At this pointing would say np to take it. They beat up on sw. But sw beat up on pat med so idk when np plays mc that'll tell the tale. Wi Lois shaky at best

WI not what they used to be.

Who won the MC vs N Bab game yesterday?

No team is what they used to be. That's called graduation.

Bridgewater over BBP today. NJ will kick LI [lacrosse] this year with Bridgewater, Ridgewood, Summit and Oak Knoll.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Ohio state attacker just got whacked in the face with a stick. Unfortunately she is the one leaving the field (to stop the bleeding) and not the defender! No card. That's why we're headed for helmets. Thanks refs..
Do you even have a rule book???

officiating is terrible. in all sports they tell refs to always be safe then sorry. in lax they are absolutely terrified to eject or card players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Ohio state attacker just got whacked in the face with a stick. Unfortunately she is the one leaving the field (to stop the bleeding) and not the defender! No card. That's why we're headed for helmets. Thanks refs..
Do you even have a rule book???

My daughter, a defender, took a stick to the head that caused us to have to leave so she could get stitches. The ref said he couldn't call a foul because "he didn't see it happen."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bridgewater over BBP today. NJ will kick LI [lacrosse] this year with Bridgewater, Ridgewood, Summit and Oak Knoll.

BBP is a shell of what they were and not a good yard stick to measure with. Graduated too much talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

The thought was that the SB hatchet man has made the game more dangerous with the aggressive play he pushes. His brand of lacrosse is bringing helmets to the game. Doesn't matter if he likes helmets or not. They are definitely coming for LI HS lacrosse and his type of play is part of the reason.

Ohio state attacker just got whacked in the face with a stick. Unfortunately she is the one leaving the field (to stop the bleeding) and not the defender! No card. That's why we're headed for helmets. Thanks refs..
Do you even have a rule book???

My daughter, a defender, took a stick to the head that caused us to have to leave so she could get stitches. The ref said he couldn't call a foul because "he didn't see it happen."

Oh yeah I hear yah. The defenders are in just as much danger as anyone else. The dangerous follow through is hardly ever called and defenders get whacked all the time too. They literally should just rip up the rule book, I guess they need on for liability reasons.

NCAA seems totally disinterested in player safety..

I agree, the follow through is rarely called anymore. One thing I would like to see change is any time an offensive player tries to go to goal and gets surrounded by a bunch of defenders inside the 8 meter we always see a penalty on defense and a free position shot. I think when this happens inside the 8 it should be a none call unless something is blatant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Were two games in. Little early. At this pointing would say np to take it. They beat up on sw. But sw beat up on pat med so idk when np plays mc that'll tell the tale. Wi Lois shaky at best

WI not what they used to be.

West Islip coaching will help the team improve as the season goes on. West Islip will also have one of their stronger players return to the lineup. Northport looks like they are playing well and we know they are always tough and well coached. Middle Country has to be the favorite. Cant see anyone else but those three, maybe one of the smithtowns.

It is a real simple fix.

1-Start to call cradling in the Sphere. The offense player that is getting hit in the head 50 percent of time has thier stick in the sphere. This is now coached to bring to your face by many programs. STEPS calls it "keep it in the window". Because refs do not call it what not do it attitude.

2- when a player leans over their stick to dodge , ref this is an uncheckable stick-hence a turnover.

The isssue again is US lacrosse like it is on most things. There piont of emphasis has never been on the offense player stick position .

Have a great Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Were two games in. Little early. At this pointing would say np to take it. They beat up on sw. But sw beat up on pat med so idk when np plays mc that'll tell the tale. Wi Lois shaky at best

WI not what they used to be.

West Islip coaching will help the team improve as the season goes on. West Islip will also have one of their stronger players return to the lineup. Northport looks like they are playing well and we know they are always tough and well coached. Middle Country has to be the favorite. Cant see anyone else but those three, maybe one of the smithtowns.

player return may be too late? Wi is 3-1 so a little early to count out. Watched the sachem game where they lost in dbl ot. Goalie played awesome and had some nice work on offense. Players need to step up. Teams like nb beating up on weaker teams. They will get theirs. Sw blown out by np but redeemed next game. I think it's too early to tell.

The best way to stop this ridicules head gear is, to me, a simple 2 step process.

1. The refs have to start calling dangerous shots, and, must start handing out red cards for shots that hit defenders, even if the obstruction is about to be called. players at the JV and varsity level should have enough experience and control to know when not to shoot, and calling dangerous follow through with the same result. that should take care of the recless play on the attacking end and

2. Go to a progressive foul system where after 3-5 contact fouls (pushing,blocking,crosscheck,slashing) or dangerous checking fouls the player is fould out of the game. add in if any player receives 2 yellows during any game it equals a red automatically, and that would take care of the dangerous play in the mid field and "D" end.

But of coursr US Lacrosse would rather mandate players put on that stupid head gear that will do nothing to limit the chance of a concussion and just make money for Cascade. if any parent had bothered to read the lable on the inside of the "head gear" they would see that even the manufacturer knows that it will not stop a concussion because it says so right on the equipment

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best way to stop this ridicules head gear is, to me, a simple 2 step process.

1. The refs have to start calling dangerous shots, and, must start handing out red cards for shots that hit defenders, even if the obstruction is about to be called. players at the JV and varsity level should have enough experience and control to know when not to shoot, and calling dangerous follow through with the same result. that should take care of the recless play on the attacking end and

2. Go to a progressive foul system where after 3-5 contact fouls (pushing,blocking,crosscheck,slashing) or dangerous checking fouls the player is fould out of the game. add in if any player receives 2 yellows during any game it equals a red automatically, and that would take care of the dangerous play in the mid field and "D" end.

But of coursr US Lacrosse would rather mandate players put on that stupid head gear that will do nothing to limit the chance of a concussion and just make money for Cascade. if any parent had bothered to read the lable on the inside of the "head gear" they would see that even the manufacturer knows that it will not stop a concussion because it says so right on the equipment

14 schools already purchased. Do you really think other schools aren't going to purchase for next season? Doing nothing gives the appearance those schools don't take player safety seriously. This is over folks we are all screwed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is a real simple fix.

1-Start to call cradling in the Sphere. The offense player that is getting hit in the head 50 percent of time has thier stick in the sphere. This is now coached to bring to your face by many programs. STEPS calls it "keep it in the window". Because refs do not call it what not do it attitude.

2- when a player leans over their stick to dodge , ref this is an uncheckable stick-hence a turnover.

The isssue again is US lacrosse like it is on most things. There piont of emphasis has never been on the offense player stick position .

Have a great Sunday.

There is no one aspect of play where if you start calling it is some manic bullet that will cure this game. It's the cross checks and it's the charging through and it's the shots over a girl or through a crowd that puts defenders at risk and on and on.. it's parents, its coaches and it's definitely refs fault as well. The game is disfunctional and helmets will only mask the symptoms..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Were two games in. Little early. At this pointing would say np to take it. They beat up on sw. But sw beat up on pat med so idk when np plays mc that'll tell the tale. Wi Lois shaky at best

WI not what they used to be.

West Islip coaching will help the team improve as the season goes on. West Islip will also have one of their stronger players return to the lineup. Northport looks like they are playing well and we know they are always tough and well coached. Middle Country has to be the favorite. Cant see anyone else but those three, maybe one of the smithtowns.

player return may be too late? Wi is 3-1 so a little early to count out. Watched the sachem game where they lost in dbl ot. Goalie played awesome and had some nice work on offense. Players need to step up. Teams like nb beating up on weaker teams. They will get theirs. Sw blown out by np but redeemed next game. I think it's too early to tell.

In the playoffs it usually comes down to coaching. When two talented teams meet in the playoff many times coaching plays a major role in the outcome. Tradition, team culture and preparation are very important. Some teams have prepared to win, they expect to win, they have worked hard in the off season and they are ready to compete. Recognizing talent, identifying strengths and weakness of players and putting players in the best position to succeed is absolutely critical to team success. Scouting, strategic game planning and in-game adjustments are all very important and play a huge role in the playoffs.

Obviously a team needs the athletes but more times than not it is coaching that makes the difference come playoff time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is a real simple fix.

1-Start to call cradling in the Sphere. The offense player that is getting hit in the head 50 percent of time has thier stick in the sphere. This is now coached to bring to your face by many programs. STEPS calls it "keep it in the window". Because refs do not call it what not do it attitude.

2- when a player leans over their stick to dodge , ref this is an uncheckable stick-hence a turnover.

The isssue again is US lacrosse like it is on most things. There piont of emphasis has never been on the offense player stick position .

Have a great Sunday.

There is no one aspect of play where if you start calling it is some manic bullet that will cure this game. It's the cross checks and it's the charging through and it's the shots over a girl or through a crowd that puts defenders at risk and on and on.. it's parents, its coaches and it's definitely refs fault as well. The game is disfunctional and helmets will only mask the symptoms..

Your darn right. Pad them up, take the boys rules minus body checks and let them play. Keep the draw if you want. Everything else is crap. The entire game. Works for ice hockey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is a real simple fix.

1-Start to call cradling in the Sphere. The offense player that is getting hit in the head 50 percent of time has thier stick in the sphere. This is now coached to bring to your face by many programs. STEPS calls it "keep it in the window". Because refs do not call it what not do it attitude.

2- when a player leans over their stick to dodge , ref this is an uncheckable stick-hence a turnover.

The isssue again is US lacrosse like it is on most things. There piont of emphasis has never been on the offense player stick position .

Have a great Sunday.

There is no one aspect of play where if you start calling it is some manic bullet that will cure this game. It's the cross checks and it's the charging through and it's the shots over a girl or through a crowd that puts defenders at risk and on and on.. it's parents, its coaches and it's definitely refs fault as well. The game is disfunctional and helmets will only mask the symptoms..

Your darn right. Pad them up, take the boys rules minus body checks and let them play. Keep the draw if you want. Everything else is crap. The entire game. Works for ice hockey.

Your an idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is a real simple fix.

1-Start to call cradling in the Sphere. The offense player that is getting hit in the head 50 percent of time has thier stick in the sphere. This is now coached to bring to your face by many programs. STEPS calls it "keep it in the window". Because refs do not call it what not do it attitude.

2- when a player leans over their stick to dodge , ref this is an uncheckable stick-hence a turnover.

The isssue again is US lacrosse like it is on most things. There piont of emphasis has never been on the offense player stick position .

Have a great Sunday.

There is no one aspect of play where if you start calling it is some manic bullet that will cure this game. It's the cross checks and it's the charging through and it's the shots over a girl or through a crowd that puts defenders at risk and on and on.. it's parents, its coaches and it's definitely refs fault as well. The game is disfunctional and helmets will only mask the symptoms..

Your darn right. Pad them up, take the boys rules minus body checks and let them play. Keep the draw if you want. Everything else is crap. The entire game. Works for ice hockey.

Your an idiot.

Why is the poster an idiot? Why not pad them up? I think we can forget holding the refs accountable. If it hasn't happened yet, it's not going to happen. If we're worried about safety, padding them up is an answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Were two games in. Little early. At this pointing would say np to take it. They beat up on sw. But sw beat up on pat med so idk when np plays mc that'll tell the tale. Wi Lois shaky at best

WI not what they used to be.

West Islip coaching will help the team improve as the season goes on. West Islip will also have one of their stronger players return to the lineup. Northport looks like they are playing well and we know they are always tough and well coached. Middle Country has to be the favorite. Cant see anyone else but those three, maybe one of the smithtowns.

player return may be too late? Wi is 3-1 so a little early to count out. Watched the sachem game where they lost in dbl ot. Goalie played awesome and had some nice work on offense. Players need to step up. Teams like nb beating up on weaker teams. They will get theirs. Sw blown out by np but redeemed next game. I think it's too early to tell.

In the playoffs it usually comes down to coaching. When two talented teams meet in the playoff many times coaching plays a major role in the outcome. Tradition, team culture and preparation are very important. Some teams have prepared to win, they expect to win, they have worked hard in the off season and they are ready to compete. Recognizing talent, identifying strengths and weakness of players and putting players in the best position to succeed is absolutely critical to team success. Scouting, strategic game planning and in-game adjustments are all very important and play a huge role in the playoffs.

Obviously a team needs the athletes but more times than not it is coaching that makes the difference come playoff time.

Coaching is not the answer to WI success. The HS team has been the beneficiary of receiving from a strong youth program, good numbers of good quality players. Like most good youth programs you are going to have up and down cycles, some cycles, wether good or bad, will span a few years sometimes. Current players are decent right now, just not quite as good as some of the recent graduates that have been carrying that team last few years.

"Why is the poster an idiot? Why not pad them up? I think we can forget holding the refs accountable. If it hasn't happened yet, it's not going to happen. If we're worried about safety, padding them up is an answer."

The answer is not to throw the whole sport out and have them play another sport which men's lacrosse is essentially another sport entirely. You want to see girls lacrosse participation numbers go down, have them play the mens game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

isnt it rich that YJ Bert and the mr. physicality spalina are the newsday quotes on helmets. Both have coached the game to get us where we are today. They should look in the mirror

Read it again genious. Spallina doesn't like helmets.

My daughter will never wear a helmet - Bobby Nystrom

You're stupid. Mine won't step off the bus without one. - Pat LaFontaine

Wat a bunch of dopes. I weared a helmet and I am fine. -Eric Lindros

What's everyone's guess on percent on LI schools that will offer helmets next year? Mine is it will jump to about 50%. These school districts don't like conflict, they all follow each other and nobody wants to be accused of negligence when it comes to safety (whether its real or not).

Look for the weaker schools to move first because they don't have strong lacrosse coaching in those towns

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's everyone's guess on percent on LI schools that will offer helmets next year? Mine is it will jump to about 50%. These school districts don't like conflict, they all follow each other and nobody wants to be accused of negligence when it comes to safety (whether its real or not).

Look for the weaker schools to move first because they don't have strong lacrosse coaching in those towns

Some schools have made it optional. They've been offered in our district - you can either buy your own or use one of the small number the district purchased). So far, no takers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's everyone's guess on percent on LI schools that will offer helmets next year? Mine is it will jump to about 50%. These school districts don't like conflict, they all follow each other and nobody wants to be accused of negligence when it comes to safety (whether its real or not).

Look for the weaker schools to move first because they don't have strong lacrosse coaching in those towns

Some schools have made it optional. They've been offered in our district - you can either buy your own or use one of the small number the district purchased). So far, no takers.

how would characterize your program, coach, AD?

In Levittown the AD claims it's the Superintendents decision and it is mandated. The girls are suffering as a result with daily headaches (one size fits all despite the [lacrosse] claim of being adjustable) headaches every single day and officials allowing opponents leniency because they don't "hear" a stick hit helmet. Coaches don't dare say anything because they need their paycheck. At the very least hey should be optional. JV numbers are barely enough to field a team, this will destroy the program. The girls hate them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In Levittown the AD claims it's the Superintendents decision and it is mandated. The girls are suffering as a result with daily headaches (one size fits all despite the [lacrosse] claim of being adjustable) headaches every single day and officials allowing opponents leniency because they don't "hear" a stick hit helmet. Coaches don't dare say anything because they need their paycheck. At the very least hey should be optional. JV numbers are barely enough to field a team, this will destroy the program. The girls hate them.

If you want your daughter to wear a helmet go out and buy her a good one that fits. You can spend 150.00 easy on a stick spend it on her head. if you are
that concerned about it as a parent you make the decision not the School District. If the rules allow them to worn I don't see how a School District can stop you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In Levittown the AD claims it's the Superintendents decision and it is mandated. The girls are suffering as a result with daily headaches (one size fits all despite the [lacrosse] claim of being adjustable) headaches every single day and officials allowing opponents leniency because they don't "hear" a stick hit helmet. Coaches don't dare say anything because they need their paycheck. At the very least hey should be optional. JV numbers are barely enough to field a team, this will destroy the program. The girls hate them.

No it won't, the girls will get used to it and adjust. They're not weak little things, they will tough it out.

Looks like N Bab ran the score up again today!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like N Bab ran the score up again today!

hahahahahah yes all the way to 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like N Bab ran the score up again today!

They got exactly what they deserve. Team is bad. One girl goes to goal every time she gets it. I bet the parents weren't to happy with that beating

Rolling eyes. Taking a deep breath . This has Nothing to do with weakness, it has to do with strong arming a program as far as I see it. Let them be optional- my daughters team faced the team with helmets and we got away with more flagrant fouls than ever before! Actually felt bad for the team that were forced to wear them, remember girls can be sensitive and coach isn't sticking up for them and proving they're doing more harm than good then girls won't respect coach and it trickles through the veins of the town...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the Elevate girls couldn't be persuaded to follow their Elevate guru to Holy Trinity?
Or did he build in some extra fees on top of the tuition and folks caught on?

What does that mean? Just because a girl plays on Elevate doesn't mean they have to go to Trinity. Did one of the Elevate parent coaches follow DK to Trinity?

Yes the PAL puppet coach from Elevate/Huntington followed DK there. UNREAL!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wish this forum would stick to the teams and games. As to poster who made fun of pequa and states, they actual be be a very good team and along with syosset and Port will have a decent shot at beating any Suffolk A team to advance there so before you denigrate a team full of hs girls without any knowledge. Learn the facts. If you are mad at a dad say so, if you are mad at a freshman girl, keep it to yourself.

Wont Port Washington need to be able to beet a team in Nassau before they think about Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rolling eyes. Taking a deep breath . This has Nothing to do with weakness, it has to do with strong arming a program as far as I see it. Let them be optional- my daughters team faced the team with helmets and we got away with more flagrant fouls than ever before! Actually felt bad for the team that were forced to wear them, remember girls can be sensitive and coach isn't sticking up for them and proving they're doing more harm than good then girls won't respect coach and it trickles through the veins of the town...

Hello insanity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wish this forum would stick to the teams and games. As to poster who made fun of pequa and states, they actual be be a very good team and along with syosset and Port will have a decent shot at beating any Suffolk A team to advance there so before you denigrate a team full of hs girls without any knowledge. Learn the facts. If you are mad at a dad say so, if you are mad at a freshman girl, keep it to yourself.

Wont Port Washington need to be able to beet a team in Nassau before they think about Suffolk?

Port is playing in the Nassau power conf and has had all close games.

Helmets will just allow officials to call FEWER fouls as if it couldn't get any worse, well just wait.

In our game yesterday the refs came together on 4 or 5 calls because they had different calls. Even they don't know what the [lacrosse] is going on! When you aren't getting matching calls with your partner you have a problem. One yellow issued after multiple contacts to the head

SA girls varsity lax team is a disgrace. From head coach SF to #. Constantly screaming at refs and playing after the whistle. SF should be embarrassed how she acts on sidelines and encourages her players to play dirty. The refs are feed up . 6 yellow cards in last game. SA let's kids in without entrance exams. That girl has been kicked out plus gives an athletic money . # dirty on soccer field as well(ask Kellenberg). They are just a mediocre public school with a dress code on a nice piece of property in
S. Huntington. Hey Summer the money you are making from training your own kids on team please put towards lax training for yourself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rolling eyes. Taking a deep breath . This has Nothing to do with weakness, it has to do with strong arming a program as far as I see it. Let them be optional- my daughters team faced the team with helmets and we got away with more flagrant fouls than ever before! Actually felt bad for the team that were forced to wear them, remember girls can be sensitive and coach isn't sticking up for them and proving they're doing more harm than good then girls won't respect coach and it trickles through the veins of the town...

Hello insanity

I like turtles

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Helmets will just allow officials to call FEWER fouls as if it couldn't get any worse, well just wait.

In our game yesterday the refs came together on 4 or 5 calls because they had different calls. Even they don't know what the [lacrosse] is going on! When you aren't getting matching calls with your partner you have a problem. One yellow issued after multiple contacts to the head

Been seeing a ton of ref conferences at the college games, too. It's not just happening at the HS level.

ok Sacred Heart mom, we know they beat you last Friday. From what I hear the score did not represent the game, it was a beat down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like N Bab ran the score up again today!

They got exactly what they deserve. Team is bad. One girl goes to goal every time she gets it. I bet the parents weren't to happy with that beating

Actually the ball hog kids parents are happy as she got her points, even if they came during garbage time. Its not about winning or being competitive its more about points.

It was Saturday SA moron, and congrats you won, but read what was written. Complete Truth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA girls varsity lax team is a disgrace. From head coach SF to #. Constantly screaming at refs and playing after the whistle. SF should be embarrassed how she acts on sidelines and encourages her players to play dirty. The refs are feed up . 6 yellow cards in last game. SA let's kids in without entrance exams. That girl has been kicked out plus gives an athletic money . # dirty on soccer field as well(ask Kellenberg). They are just a mediocre public school with a dress code on a nice piece of property in
S. Huntington. Hey Summer the money you are making from training your own kids on team please put towards lax training for yourself

Calling out specific kids? Not cool under any circumstances

To the parent who is just so insanely naive, due to complete ignorance, let me clear some things up for you regarding SA HS. "..a mediocre public school with a dress code"..?? While it is so clear you or your child did/do not attend this level of HS, or were there and have now left due to your own actions or inactions, I will lay it out with accuracy - SA has an academic standard which is incredible (breadth of offerings, depth of studies, a failing grade is 75 - this level is a "C" at any other school). Character Ratings must be upheld for successful matriculation and attendance at this school. A 75 year proven college prep curriculum and society, in every way, guiding students with moral character that you are clearly lacking in while identifying a single player by number, a teenager, for your own bored, vile needs. Yes - The Cath HS entrance exams are indeed in place, to make sure that every applicant has the aptitude to succeed in a rigorous academic, disciplined, environment. Or, yes, they will be gone at their own hand. Which happens, as we all have seen. It is not for every student/athlete. Standards must be maintained. Rules followed. And for those successful students, they LOVE their school with a sense of pride that is unparalleled. Student population is large, so there is a large population of athletes. No one is taught to be dirty players by SF... We all know that any of that comes from other environments an athlete is in - family, Club teams, general demeanor. They are however, taught to compete at the highest level - with schedules that are diverse and highly competitive, practices that are mandatory, at all hours of the day and night, never missing one single day - yes, even outside in the weather (only one team can practice indoors at any given time and it is not ideal.). Please do not speak on things on which you have zero knowledge, it is sad to see an adult do so. Be better than that.

WOW! typical SH "classy" behavior, keep it about the sport and the behavior not going after the school or the kid in particular, unless you want each of your players put under the BoTC microscope?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA girls varsity lax team is a disgrace. From head coach SF to # Constantly screaming at refs and playing after the whistle. SF should be embarrassed how she acts on sidelines and encourages her players to play dirty. The refs are feed up . 6 yellow cards in last game. SA let's kids in without entrance exams. That girl has been kicked out plus gives an athletic money . # dirty on soccer field as well(ask Kellenberg). They are just a mediocre public school with a dress code on a nice piece of property in
S. Huntington. Hey Summer the money you are making from training your own kids on team please put towards lax training for yourself

I guess the Massapequa dad of girl kicked out still gets some intel on the games. How else would they know about # and how she plays soccer unless they were there. Go back into your cave.

Thanks Summer for replying to our post and to the other comment. Never compare SA to SH it's not even close. Worry about catching HT academically then you can spew Friar

SHeart Mom...you were wrong to write about a kid in high school in a public forum. No matter how jealous, weirdly important this all is to you, or for any other reason. Its just wrong. Grow Up. Looks like you got schooled on many of your other statements as well............If you choose to log on, then know what you speak of please.

What a load of crap. Talk to any of the public HS kids who know kids who go to SA, and they all do, and you will hear about the rampant drug use going on there. My own kid told me how a former public HS friend and fellow scout got caught doing coke in the café. Parents cleared the crime with a donation. So get off your high horse about the morals at SA.

Again, typical SH response, slamming yet another Catholic school. HT is a great school, but you are such a typical SHA snob that you wouldn't even bother to know

Keep drinking that Friar Cool Aid and deceiving yourself while you pray in the school's preferred three-point stance. If the education is working for you and you upgraded from a lowly public school, that is great and you should be commended for making that sacrifice. As for the character, visit the parking lot after school and see what is going on there-not that it isn't going on at other schools, but please... Having been there for a stint and returned to public please don't misguide people into thinking it is something it is not--a top flight academic institution.

I, for one, will be berating # from sidelines...and prob bringing big banner bashing # as well....the nerve of a girls parents to name someone #....

You are one angry person.

There were yellow card issued against SH as well.

I am the parent of 2 girls that have played in the Catholic league the last 6 years. In those 6yrs, daughters teams have lost most if not all of the games they played against St Anthonys and SHA. but that's the only 2 things these teams have in common. Coach Ferraro always won with dignity and never embarrassed our teams. Never allowing her starters to play extended minutes, never playing man down and never letting the game get out of hand. Her teams play very hard but clean.

Are there any other schools you would like to bash; Saint Mary's, Saint John's?
So much to "turn the other cheek"

All I can say is WOW, what a bunch of losers you all are. The SA elitist clown who feels going to SA is the pinnacle of education is probably only slightly less hideous than the coward calling out a high school player by her number. My kids high school is far from perfect but the few kids who have left to go to SA have generally done so because they got in trouble at school or were getting in trouble out of school and mom and dad were hoping a change of schools would help.

It's only a one-day sample, but thought the scores from yesterday were interesting (per Newsday). In Nassau, 4 of the 8 games listed were 1-goal games, with another 13-10 and only one blowout at 17-1. In Suffolk, there were 10 games listed with only one 1-goal game and one 2-goal difference. The average goal differential was 10.2, with scores of 19-0, 14-0, 18-1, 20-5 and 15-3. (At least in the 14-0 game there were 13 goal scorers and only 2 goals scored in the second half.)

I don't know how the power conferences work in Nassau, but at least for yesterday they seemed to work.

Do not mention players by name or number please!!!

There are problems in every school regardless of private or catholic , I am from West Islip and we have a PAL Board DADDY that tells the coach what girl should play where it is really PATHETIC to see a grown man try to get his DAUGHTER in with the LAX program, DID I also mention he is also in CONTROL of the BOOSTER CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are problems in every school regardless of private or catholic , I am from West Islip and we have a PAL Board DADDY that tells the coach what girl should play where it is really PATHETIC to see a grown man try to get his DAUGHTER in with the LAX program, DID I also mention he is also in CONTROL of the BOOSTER CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE

you have no clue what you're talking about. The guys kid is on jv. If he was up someone's [lacrosse] as you claim why isn't she on varsity??? This guy spends A LOT of his time doing when he doesn't need to

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are problems in every school regardless of private or catholic , I am from West Islip and we have a PAL Board DADDY that tells the coach what girl should play where it is really PATHETIC to see a grown man try to get his DAUGHTER in with the LAX program, DID I also mention he is also in CONTROL of the BOOSTER CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE

heres a thought. Why don't you grow a set and tell him to his face how you feel? Coward behind a keyboard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are problems in every school regardless of private or catholic , I am from West Islip and we have a PAL Board DADDY that tells the coach what girl should play where it is really PATHETIC to see a grown man try to get his DAUGHTER in with the LAX program, DID I also mention he is also in CONTROL of the BOOSTER CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE

WhAtS WiTh ThE CaPs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am the parent of 2 girls that have played in the Catholic league the last 6 years. In those 6yrs, daughters teams have lost most if not all of the games they played against St Anthonys and SHA. but that's the only 2 things these teams have in common. Coach Ferraro always won with dignity and never embarrassed our teams. Never allowing her starters to play extended minutes, never playing man down and never letting the game get out of hand. Her teams play very hard but clean.

SA never lets up and rarely takes starters out of games regardless of the score - championship game two years ago SA up by 12 the entire second half and she finally put the seniors in with one minute left in the game - very classy indeed, she's an immature lunatic with a group of parents and players to match

Booster clubs always have too much influence. We have travel team parents running ours who have way too much say in decisions. Name me a school where a booster club doesn't have an agenda?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the parent who is just so insanely naive, due to complete ignorance, let me clear some things up for you regarding SA HS. "..a mediocre public school with a dress code"..?? While it is so clear you or your child did/do not attend this level of HS, or were there and have now left due to your own actions or inactions, I will lay it out with accuracy - SA has an academic standard which is incredible (breadth of offerings, depth of studies, a failing grade is 75 - this level is a "C" at any other school). Character Ratings must be upheld for successful matriculation and attendance at this school. A 75 year proven college prep curriculum and society, in every way, guiding students with moral character that you are clearly lacking in while identifying a single player by number, a teenager, for your own bored, vile needs. Yes - The Cath HS entrance exams are indeed in place, to make sure that every applicant has the aptitude to succeed in a rigorous academic, disciplined, environment. Or, yes, they will be gone at their own hand. Which happens, as we all have seen. It is not for every student/athlete. Standards must be maintained. Rules followed. And for those successful students, they LOVE their school with a sense of pride that is unparalleled. Student population is large, so there is a large population of athletes. No one is taught to be dirty players by SF... We all know that any of that comes from other environments an athlete is in - family, Club teams, general demeanor. They are however, taught to compete at the highest level - with schedules that are diverse and highly competitive, practices that are mandatory, at all hours of the day and night, never missing one single day - yes, even outside in the weather (only one team can practice indoors at any given time and it is not ideal.). Please do not speak on things on which you have zero knowledge, it is sad to see an adult do so. Be better than that.

You sound incredibly delusional and are clearly oblivious to much of what goes on at SA

This is probably coming from the loser who got thrown out of WI PAL!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, typical SH response, slamming yet another Catholic school. HT is a great school, but you are such a typical SHA snob that you wouldn't even bother to know

My daughter goes to a different Catholic. I would rather play SA anyday over SHA. SA is aggressive within the rules of the game. SHA is swinging sticks, cross checking, targeting players, creeping before the whistle...etc. SHA systematically targeted every team's best player last year and knocked out the best players from SA, KBerg and SJB last year when they played. Go ahead...ask those coaches...no lie. Disgraceful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wish this forum would stick to the teams and games. As to poster who made fun of pequa and states, they actual be be a very good team and along with syosset and Port will have a decent shot at beating any Suffolk A team to advance there so before you denigrate a team full of hs girls without any knowledge. Learn the facts. If you are mad at a dad say so, if you are mad at a freshman girl, keep it to yourself.

Wont Port Washington need to be able to beet a team in Nassau before they think about Suffolk?

Check newsday tomorrow my friend Port 12 manhasset 9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wish this forum would stick to the teams and games. As to poster who made fun of pequa and states, they actual be be a very good team and along with syosset and Port will have a decent shot at beating any Suffolk A team to advance there so before you denigrate a team full of hs girls without any knowledge. Learn the facts. If you are mad at a dad say so, if you are mad at a freshman girl, keep it to yourself.

Wont Port Washington need to be able to beet a team in Nassau before they think about Suffolk?

What does everyone think of SHA in greenwich?

This is great, PLEASE start a SA thread!

Port 12 manhasset 9 and nice spelling dude "beet"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does everyone think of SHA in greenwich?

Nobody cares, go away

That is a great win for the Port program. It looks like the Nassau power conference has a lot of parity this year with no super team based upon the early results and closer than normal scores.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are problems in every school regardless of private or catholic , I am from West Islip and we have a PAL Board DADDY that tells the coach what girl should play where it is really PATHETIC to see a grown man try to get his DAUGHTER in with the LAX program, DID I also mention he is also in CONTROL of the BOOSTER CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE

And HE is a GRADUATE of st ANTHONY's

Big win by port over sett, but they still aren't winning consistently but are playing close games. In conf 2 there really isn't thing there after the top 2 or 3 teams. Some teams have really fallen off.

Same teams keep winning year after year. Why don't other towns follow the model? Can't build programs around just a few kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big win by port over sett, but they still aren't winning consistently but are playing close games. In conf 2 there really isn't thing there after the top 2 or 3 teams. Some teams have really fallen off.

Same teams keep winning year after year. Why don't other towns follow the model? Can't build programs around just a few kids

Which programs are you talking about ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a great win for the Port program. It looks like the Nassau power conference has a lot of parity this year with no super team based upon the early results and closer than normal scores.

No super team, have you ever heard the words Garden City.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are problems in every school regardless of private or catholic , I am from West Islip and we have a PAL Board DADDY that tells the coach what girl should play where it is really PATHETIC to see a grown man try to get his DAUGHTER in with the LAX program, DID I also mention he is also in CONTROL of the BOOSTER CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE

And HE is a GRADUATE of st ANTHONY's

That man will destroy the program.

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Yes Captain Obvious I have heard of Garden City. Trust me I believe GC will end up on top of the Power conference as well as champ in the B's but my point which seems to have gone over your head is the fact that there have been an upset or two plus many scores are much closer than in years past. For example, GC beating Massapequa in OT, plus beating Port and Syosset by close margins. Compare this to some of the scores last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are problems in every school regardless of private or catholic , I am from West Islip and we have a PAL Board DADDY that tells the coach what girl should play where it is really PATHETIC to see a grown man try to get his DAUGHTER in with the LAX program, DID I also mention he is also in CONTROL of the BOOSTER CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!! TERRIBLE

And HE is a GRADUATE of st ANTHONY's

Ive heard the booster club does some great things for the program. Who stepped up when there was snow all over?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the Elevate girls couldn't be persuaded to follow their Elevate guru to Holy Trinity?
Or did he build in some extra fees on top of the tuition and folks caught on?

What does that mean? Just because a girl plays on Elevate doesn't mean they have to go to Trinity. Did one of the Elevate parent coaches follow DK to Trinity?

Yes the PAL puppet coach from Elevate/Huntington followed DK there. UNREAL!

DK was making a fool out of himself last week at a HS game. Deep breath, tone it down DK,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big win by port over sett, but they still aren't winning consistently but are playing close games. In conf 2 there really isn't thing there after the top 2 or 3 teams. Some teams have really fallen off.

Same teams keep winning year after year. Why don't other towns follow the model? Can't build programs around just a few kids

Which programs are you talking about ?

how about anyone outside the top4?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

[quote=Anonymous]Yes Captain Obvious I have heard of Garden City. Trust me I believe GC will end up on top of the Power conference as well as champ in the B's but my point which seems to have gone over your head is the fact that there have been an upset or two plus many scores are much closer than in years past. For example, GC beating Massapequa in OT, plus beating Port and Syosset by close margins. Compare this to some of the scores last year.[/quo

By the end of the year they will be blowing everyone out by double digits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the Elevate girls couldn't be persuaded to follow their Elevate guru to Holy Trinity?
Or did he build in some extra fees on top of the tuition and folks caught on?

What does that mean? Just because a girl plays on Elevate doesn't mean they have to go to Trinity. Did one of the Elevate parent coaches follow DK to Trinity?

Yes the PAL puppet coach from Elevate/Huntington followed DK there. UNREAL!

DK was making a fool out of himself last week at a HS game. Deep breath, tone it down DK,

Would that be considered an OXYMORON?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All I can say is WOW, what a bunch of losers you all are. The SA elitist clown who feels going to SA is the pinnacle of education is probably only slightly less hideous than the coward calling out a high school player by her number. My kids high school is far from perfect but the few kids who have left to go to SA have generally done so because they got in trouble at school or were getting in trouble out of school and mom and dad were hoping a change of schools would help.

Some kids go to SA bc parents pissed off too many at public school, or they think precious is better than she is. Funny thing is she gets to SA and when precious doesn't make varsity, parents go back to their complaining ways. At some point have to realize who the common denominator is dad.

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

It also looks like their schedule is very favorable. They probably will not be pushed until they play GC. Conversely, GC plays both a tough league and out of league schedule. They will be battle tested for a playoff run.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Division I

Early season with a lot of lacrosse to be played but...

Final Four Predictions

1 - Middle Country
2 - Northport
3 - Smithtown E
4 - Smithtown W

West Islip good coaching and winning tradition could also be in the mix.
Can Huntington make a run?

Looks like it will be a two horse race.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

SOUNDS LIKE A TYPICAL DAD TRYING TO GET HIS DAUGHTER AHEAD AND MAYBE HE IS IN IT FOR OTHER REASONS AS WELL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

It also looks like their schedule is very favorable. They probably will not be pushed until they play GC. Conversely, GC plays both a tough league and out of league schedule. They will be battle tested for a playoff run.

ESM has a great team this year. Very strong defense, great coach and an offense that can get it done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

That's a funny comparison. Double digit goals and 1 assist ratio says something though and it's not good. She has company though. We have one on our team too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Gretzky wasn't a puck hog silly he had 1,963 career assist.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Gretzky wasn't a puck hog silly he had 1,963 career assist.

Anyone who knows that kid knows she's not a team player and she's all about herself .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

You bit you moron!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

Look at the stats Harborfields goalie had 11 saves! Who shot them???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

It also looks like their schedule is very favorable. They probably will not be pushed until they play GC. Conversely, GC plays both a tough league and out of league schedule. They will be battle tested for a playoff run.

ESM has a great team this year. Very strong defense, great coach and an offense that can get it done.

ESM had 6 different scorers against Rocky pt. 9 different scorers against Bellport and 5 different scorers against Harborfields. That's better than most teams. Their conference schedule is a joke. Tougher non league games but so what, it doesn't matter how they do in those. They will be well rested to play the Nassau champ. GC, if they get there will be battle tested but beat up as well.

you have to love people arguing about the LI Championship in the first week of April. Who knows if either ESM or GC will even get that far.

Too funny , 5 different scorers against harborfields .Ball Hog had 2 more goals than the 4 other scorers combined . Is what it is why try and hide it . You have a player who is very good at scoring just not good at helping others on her team score .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too funny , 5 different scorers against harborfields .Ball Hog had 2 more goals than the 4 other scorers combined . Is what it is why try and hide it . You have a player who is very good at scoring just not good at helping others on her team score .

I'd say not interested rather than not good about any player with double digit goals and no assists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

Bahahaha! Best thing I've read on here all day!

So what does everyone think will happen next week with the vote?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

It also looks like their schedule is very favorable. They probably will not be pushed until they play GC. Conversely, GC plays both a tough league and out of league schedule. They will be battle tested for a playoff run.

ESM has a great team this year. Very strong defense, great coach and an offense that can get it done.

Did Becky Thorn quit? Thats the only way ESM would have a great coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

Bahahaha! Best thing I've read on here all day!

Then you my friend need a life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable
of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

Sounds to me like you have a man crush . Now go take down your GRETZKY poster and calm down .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

It's not Baby Root?

Daughters team played MacArthur (helmets) and she whacked a girl in the head by accident (trust me she's not aggressive) and although everyone on the team heard it the official did not call it. By the D of the game there were several hits not called, we won but it's clearly not advantageous and officials have no experience in this type of environment.

How freakin hard is it to make a call when you hear a metal shaft CLANK hard plastic. Jesus, nobody is ever going to complain about trying to protect the head. Make the call!!!!!!!!!!! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what does everyone think will happen next week with the vote?!

What vote?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the Elevate girls couldn't be persuaded to follow their Elevate guru to Holy Trinity?
Or did he build in some extra fees on top of the tuition and folks caught on?

What does that mean? Just because a girl plays on Elevate doesn't mean they have to go to Trinity. Did one of the Elevate parent coaches follow DK to Trinity?

Yes the PAL puppet coach from Elevate/Huntington followed DK there. UNREAL!

DK was making a fool out of himself last week at a HS game. Deep breath, tone it down DK,

I cant believe they let that Elevate coach actually coach HS games yet attend them to watch. His behavior is so detrimental to the kids and the sport! He actually told my daughters friend that Trinity could challenge SA this year because the team he has built is so strong??????

DK is a very knowledgeable coach and having seen the attention to detail and the energy he puts forth to train girls, the HT team will have success because, compared to coaches form other schools who may never have even touched a lax stick before, he has done it and makes an effort to actually coach
That being said, he is severely lacking as a person and his scruples are non-existent--just check his record from his past 'real" jobs. The bridges he has burned over the years and the sour taste folks come away with after spending any time with him is well documented.
Are the HT girls forced to practice with Team Elevate warm-ups yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

It's not Baby Root?

Didn't he marry Janit Jonez?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK is a very knowledgeable coach and having seen the attention to detail and the energy he puts forth to train girls, the HT team will have success because, compared to coaches form other schools who may never have even touched a lax stick before, he has done it and makes an effort to actually coach
That being said, he is severely lacking as a person and his scruples are non-existent--just check his record from his past 'real" jobs. The bridges he has burned over the years and the sour taste folks come away with after spending any time with him is well documented.
Are the HT girls forced to practice with Team Elevate warm-ups yet?

Do you think his behavior and bridges burnt are ever a detriment to the girl's recruiting process?

The early recruiting vote at the NCAA meeting

Not sure of how his sideline theatrics and behavior affect his ability to recruit or how college coaches view his shtick....would love to have him coach my daughter at HS level because she would learn a bunch.
And we would be gone just about the time we got sick of him and his act!
I think that Holy Trinity will win eventually but kids have to want to attend HT, and in Catholic school circles, its regarded as not much better than an average public HS.
Most kids want the entire HS experience--not just the DK inspired lax love-in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable
of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

Sounds to me like you have a man crush . Now go take down your GRETZKY poster and calm down .

Was being dramatic for effect, but it's ok. Not everyone is born with a sense of humor, you'll survive. Angry much?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable
of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

Sounds to me like you have a man crush . Now go take down your GRETZKY poster and calm down .

Was being dramatic for effect, but it's ok. Not everyone is born with a sense of humor, you'll survive. Angry much?

Not angry at all. Seems as if you are a little overly sensitive about taking your poster down . Try Pamprin to get you thru these emotional times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad, but true, statement on affairs at ESM

....and I guess Wayne Gretsky was a puck hog?? Everyone of those ESM players are capable of scoring . Cant ever give any kid credit.

Here lies the problem, first off you are comparing them to arguably the best ever to play their sport at a professional level, get over yourself. Second Gretsky had 2x the amount of assists compared to goals , gonna go out on a limb and say those two are not big assist kids. Lastly we do agree everyone of those ESM players are capable
of scoring you just don't have to worry about it much because they rarely get the chance to.

For Lord sakes, both of you. This is infuriating and I can't take it anymore, I ignored it the first time but it happened again. It's GretZky, with a Z not S!!!!! You both should be banned from this board, how does the moderator let you get away with that??? What an outrage, you probably think it's also Babe Roof.

Sounds to me like you have a man crush . Now go take down your GRETZKY poster and calm down .

Was being dramatic for effect, but it's ok. Not everyone is born with a sense of humor, you'll survive. Angry much?

Signed Drama Queen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not angry at all. Seems as if you are a little overly sensitive about taking your poster down . Try Pamprin to get you thru these emotional times.

1000% offside, asshat. In case you haven't heard, sexist slurs are so last century.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not angry at all. Seems as if you are a little overly sensitive about taking your poster down . Try Pamprin to get you thru these emotional times.

1000% offside, asshat. In case you haven't heard, sexist slurs are so last century.

Snowflake

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not angry at all. Seems as if you are a little overly sensitive about taking your poster down . Try Pamprin to get you thru these emotional times.

1000% offside, asshat. In case you haven't heard, sexist slurs are so last century.

Snowflake

Yeah, NOT. Sorry you have to pump yourself up by putting down half of the population. You know, your mother, your wife, your daughter. All the girls that play on all the teams that are the topic of discussion right here on this thread. That's whom you are insulting. #SAD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How freakin hard is it to make a call when you hear a metal shaft CLANK hard plastic. Jesus, nobody is ever going to complain about trying to protect the head. Make the call!!!!!!!!!!! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse

Helmets are here to stay. I was stalking our town's K-1 clinic looking for a date tonight (its Friday after all) and about 3/4 of the K-1 girls had helmets. Our youth org hasn't mandated or recommended getting them but there they were. I bet LU is pushing them to every new lax parent that sets foot in the store. So there it is, within 12 years all girls will be wearing them because the little ones are starting out that way. It's a done deal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not angry at all. Seems as if you are a little overly sensitive about taking your poster down . Try Pamprin to get you thru these emotional times.

1000% offside, asshat. In case you haven't heard, sexist slurs are so last century.

Snowflake

Yeah, NOT. Sorry you have to pump yourself up by putting down half of the population. You know, your mother, your wife, your daughter. All the girls that play on all the teams that are the topic of discussion right here on this thread. That's whom you are insulting. #SAD

Actually not insulting anyone , only your ignorance makes you think the comment is sexist . Trying to help you with your irritability about taking down the poster of your man crush .Look it up Pamprin can help you . Stop being such a drama queen.
"Pamprin is typically used to treat symptoms related to a woman's menstrual cycle, including bloating, cramps, headache and fatigue, according to DailyMed. While this is its primary marketed use, men can safely take the drug and experience the same symptom relief and side effects."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not angry at all. Seems as if you are a little overly sensitive about taking your poster down . Try Pamprin to get you thru these emotional times.

1000% offside, asshat. In case you haven't heard, sexist slurs are so last century.

Snowflake

Yeah, NOT. Sorry you have to pump yourself up by putting down half of the population. You know, your mother, your wife, your daughter. All the girls that play on all the teams that are the topic of discussion right here on this thread. That's whom you are insulting. #SAD

Signed The Drama Queen (TDQ)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

What no comment about the ESM game? Eating crow are you?

A little behind the times... please translate what "snowflake" is supposed to mean. Thank you

How strong are Cold Spring Harbor and Smithtown West this year? Reason I ask is Summit, NJ plays both this year. Cold Spring Harbor game is in Gains for Brains tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How strong are Cold Spring Harbor and Smithtown West this year? Reason I ask is Summit, NJ plays both this year. Cold Spring Harbor game is in Gains for Brains tournament.

Both are solid teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A little behind the times... please translate what "snowflake" is supposed to mean. Thank you

Snowflake is what an asshat calls someone just before the team they crush on and brag about gets beat

Does anyone know who won between Ridgewood and Darien?

Ridge wood won 10-8

Ward Melville over Middle Country today. Ward Melville is now the team to beat in Suffolk A. Schedule is favorable for them the rest of the way. Northport will be their only test left.

Will commend ESM for sportsmanship ( not usually known for it )in their game today clearly spreading the scoring around .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville over Middle Country today. Ward Melville is now the team to beat in Suffolk A. Schedule is favorable for them the rest of the way.
Northport will be their only test left.

and Northport will crush them. Fluke win

Tell me now how the PAL board members daughter now get moved up to varsity , Please this is all politics the WI board is a joke and it is now obvious that this is daddy ball at its best . West Islip is circling the drain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank JL

[quote=Anonymous]Tell me now how the PAL board members daughter now get moved up to varsity , Please this is all politics the WI board is a joke and it is now obvious that this is daddy ball at its best . West Islip is circling the drain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank JL

Maybe she earned her promotion.

The anti-helmet crowd should be happy - at least one of the teams that started the season with mandatory helmets has punted already. The girls hated them and the coached blamed them for a slow start.

Maybe sour grapes is why your kid is still on jv

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe sour grapes is why your kid is still on jv

I sure hope it's not Sour Grapes.......he is the head of the PTA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The anti-helmet crowd should be happy - at least one of the teams that started the season with mandatory helmets has punted already. The girls hated them and the coached blamed them for a slow start.

Can I ask which school?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe sour grapes is why your kid is still on jv

I sure hope it's not Sour Grapes.......he is the head of the PTA

hes the head of the booster club. I'm sure he would give up the spot to you. Or are you just an armchair complainer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tell me now how the PAL board members daughter now get moved up to varsity , Please this is all politics the WI board is a joke and it is now obvious that this is daddy ball at its best . West Islip is circling the drain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank JL

Waaaaaaaa

How can u losers get so low! As a mom of a varsity daughter I am grateful for all of the support that JL gives this community. All u haters that live through your kids wouldn't no talent if it smacked u against the face with a lax stick. His daughter deserves the opportunity she's a tremendous athlete! Also, While all of your daughters are hanging out doing what west islip entitled kids do.. you'll find his daughter with a stick in her hand. Have some decency people. Last time I checked in west islip best girl plays that has shown true for many years.. you people are embarrassing!

His kid was at practice. Not on the team. You all need to relax

West islip circling the drain, you have no clue and I actually coach in a neighboring town and live in WI and happy some day my little girl will play there if she sticks with the sport

Two kids from JV were at Varsity practice today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West islip circling the drain, you have no clue and I actually coach in a neighboring town and live in WI and happy some day my little girl will play there if she sticks with the sport

this is just a bitter parent who thinks his/her kids getting shafted. Happens everywhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two kids from JV were at Varsity practice today.

Whooooo caressss

Just a shame that we are stooping to naming people. Let the kids play lacrosse. Why do the parents have to ruin everything?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can u losers get so low! As a mom of a varsity daughter I am grateful for all of the support that JL gives this community. All u haters that live through your kids wouldn't no talent if it smacked u against the face with a lax stick. His daughter deserves the opportunity she's a tremendous athlete! Also, While all of your daughters are hanging out doing what west islip entitled kids do.. you'll find his daughter with a stick in her hand. Have some decency people. Last time I checked in west islip best girl plays that has shown true for many years.. you people are embarrassing!

Wait a second.... There are entitled WI kids? How can that be? I thought all the entitled kids were from Manhasset, GC or CSH.

Thank you JL for all that you do.

WE ARE.....

Thoughts on team standings so far this season? Fire away

Garden City they just keep rolling
Cold Spring Harbor keep getting stronger
Wantagh better than expected after losing some players
Long Beach have taken a big jump over the last 5 years
North Shore have taken a big jump over the last 5 years
Port Washington have taken a big jump over the last 5 years
Manhasset looks like a slightly down year for this powerhouse
Massapequa underperforming
Syosset underperforming
Farmingdale surprising season for a team that is always hyped

Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Oceanside deserve to be up
South Side also fighting to go up
Lynbrook steady again
Locust Valley surprising
Seaford always have some good players
Oyster Bay over performing
Calhoun about where they belong
Plainedge continue to fall used to hang with the big teams
MacArthur not much there this year
Carle Place don't belong

Finally some good discussion

GC looks very strong and should win the B's
CSH is solid but not a powerhouse. They play a tough OC schedule
Wantagh is average at best now, lost so much. barely hanging on against lesser teams and tough OC coming up
Long Beach is a good team and improved. Could make B finals against GC
NS a solid team should be in the mix in C's
PW is a decent team but I do not think they will make A finals this year
Manhasset should never be overlooked, they will get it together
Massapequa is young and a better team than their record. Lost 3 one goal games. They could win A's
Syosset is starting to play better and I think will be in A finals
Farmingdale seems to get worse every year

In the second tier I see Oceanside making some noise in the A's, South Side, Lynbrook and Seaford are only teams left that could surprise some people

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

What no comment about the ESM game? Eating crow are you?

ESM loses to Bishop Ireton, a great program but not their best team in recent years. That was the only "tough" game on the schedule until a potential match-up with GC who plays a very demanding schedule. Cannot just show-up and expect to win a tough game without being tested. ESM should consider perhaps a few more potential losses during the season to see if they can prepare better to win the title. Blowouts on a regular basis will not get the team ready.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on team standings so far this season? Fire away

Garden City they just keep rolling
Cold Spring Harbor keep getting stronger
Wantagh better than expected after losing some players
Long Beach have taken a big jump over the last 5 years
North Shore have taken a big jump over the last 5 years
Port Washington have taken a big jump over the last 5 years
Manhasset looks like a slightly down year for this powerhouse
Massapequa underperforming
Syosset underperforming
Farmingdale surprising season for a team that is always hyped

Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Oceanside deserve to be up
South Side also fighting to go up
Lynbrook steady again
Locust Valley surprising
Seaford always have some good players
Oyster Bay over performing
Calhoun about where they belong
Plainedge continue to fall used to hang with the big teams
MacArthur not much there this year
Carle Place don't belong

The Teams that play smart lacrosse and play a team game will win championships. Coaches who allow selfish play will almost always pay for it in the end.

Teams that win championships will have:

Solid Team Defense.
Well coordinated and agressive re-defending.
Competitive team draw control.
Limited unforced turnovers (especially while clearing and including foolish selfish shots).
Smart unselfish offense.

Obviously a team needs to have talented athletic players but in order to win a championship there must be strong leadership and coaching.

Me first run to the goal and shoot attitude will almost always result in a turnover (easy save, checked stick, charge, pipe etc...) when the team can least afford it.

Coaches who tolerate selfish, me first, run to the goal attitude (especially vs lesser competition) will not win in the playoffs. Stat padders rarely if ever help their team in big games.

So a team game wins and teams that don't spread the ball don't go very far. When will programs stop being hijacked by these type of players and parents? The teams going in the wrong direction continue to cater to just a few. You need to build a better culture starting in PAL like Sett and GC instead of lots of towns that have been saying since kindergarten get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way!

We are in HS now and Shannon is getting shut down and our team keeps losing. But most Shannons are committed to a D1 school and that's all that anyone cares about

why is Carle place in this division? lacrosse is more like an after school activity there. much better of in a lower division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you JL for all that you do.

WE ARE.....

....PENN STATE?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you JL for all that you do.

WE ARE.....

....PENN STATE?

MARSHALL

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

why is Carle place in this division? lacrosse is more like an after school activity there. much better of in a lower division.

Looks like an after school activity for Calhoun Plainedge Macarthur and Carle Place this year and maybe even Farmingdale hehe

Does anyone know the playoff bracket format for Nassau County? There are 5 conferences I to V. How many make it from each conference, and which brackets play each other in the playoffs?

Each conference has a mix of class A, B, C & D schools. The power conference (Conference 1) is the top teams independent of what class they fall under (A, B, C & D) and I believe each conference gets weaker (lower pre-season seeding criteria) as you go down. When the playoffs start the teams all go back to their respective class. Playoffs are not by conference. All the power conference teams get in no matter what and the remaining teams are picked from the other conferences depending on win/loss records and probably pre-season seedings.

In the playoffs, you might see a power conference team with a losing record being seeded higher than a conference 5 team with an unblemished record. On paper this does not look right but in most if not all cases the power conference team will win

Massapequa would be better if their coaches had a clue what they were doing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is garden city a "super team", stop trying to stir the pot. We are still a work in progress.

signed

garden city parent

Garden City will win the counties hands down.

ESM will win class B long island this year. They are stacked.

Not on offense , two ball hogs , 1 lefty 1 righty . Looks like for now the righty has taken over as the main threat and will be putting up big numbers on the goals side ( may never get an actual assist ) . Will be interesting when they play a team that has a clue to see if any other kids on the team are allowed to shoot .

What no comment about the ESM game? Eating crow are you?

ESM loses to Bishop Ireton, a great program but not their best team in recent years. That was the only "tough" game on the schedule until a potential match-up with GC who plays a very demanding schedule. Cannot just show-up and expect to win a tough game without being tested. ESM should consider perhaps a few more potential losses during the season to see if they can prepare better to win the title. Blowouts on a regular basis will not get the team ready.

Schedule...not their choice. Coach has games sceduled for them. Btw how do you know this is not Bishop Iretons best team. Scary how you know this.

Read the internet, definately not the best Bishop Ireton team. Scary? Really?

It's always the coaches! Can't put everything on them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you JL for all that you do.

WE ARE.....

....PENN STATE?

MARSHALL

Devo. D E V O

You sound like one of them. They scream at the girls every game and tell them its not the coaches fault

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa would be better if their coaches had a clue what they were doing

Nothing to do with the coaches. The team is lacking talent.

The best teams are balanced. If you look at the Newsday stats of the top 25 scorers, CSH has #10, GC has #18, Wantagh has zero, Long Beach has #17 North Shore has zero. All the kids on the list are from schools with 1 player. Those teams are 1 and done come playoff time and the Shannon on those teams are shut down by some good playoff defense. When oh when will coaches learn. US Lax should go to small sided games to get more girls involved in the game. Youth lacrosse is still get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read the internet, definately not the best Bishop Ireton team. Scary? Really?

Its definitely....not definately...that internet of yours does it have a spelling app? What was the score?? A blowout? Howdid Manhasset do against them? Why are uou stalking ESM and Bishop Ireton anyway weirdo.

Its you...not uou you dope. LMAO at your holier than thou attitude you moron.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its you...not uou you dope. LMAO at your holier than thou attitude you moron.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read the internet, definately not the best Bishop Ireton team. Scary? Really?

Its definitely....not definately...that internet of yours does it have a spelling app? What was the score?? A blowout? Howdid Manhasset do against them? Why are uou stalking ESM and Bishop Ireton anyway weirdo.

Maybe YOU should learn how to spell YOU before YOU criticize others. YOU have it wrong, I want ESM to do well, I think challenging games during the season will get them ready. By the way, Lax Power and Max Preps have information on every lacrosse school in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you JL for all that you do.

WE ARE.....

....PENN STATE?

MARSHALL

OK, that made me laugh.

Agree, and some of those listed in Newsday top scorers have coaches that allow stat padding, while others not listed have coaches that pull starters once clock is running. It's called sportsmanship-anyone remember what that is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, and some of those listed in Newsday top scorers have coaches that allow stat padding, while others not listed have coaches that pull starters once clock is running. It's called sportsmanship-anyone remember what that is?

On a weak team the "Go to Goal Girl" does not have a choice. When weak teams play each other it is generally the team with the better "ball hog" that wins. Weak teams will never compete for a championship.

On teams with a lot of strong players the "Go to Goal Girl" is a detriment. Even when they score a bunch of goals they usually detract from the overall performance of the team. Scoring goals is (obviously) not the problem, "selfish play" is the issue. The girl who puts her head down and runs to the goal almost every time she touches the ball hurts her team more than she helps the team. Coaches, parents, fans and players who do not understand the game only realize how detrimental the behavior is when it is blatantly obvious at a critical point in the game. Everyone will say "why, why did she shoot the ball?" or "why, why did she try to run through three girls?" or "why, why didn't she pass the ball?" as the other team is sprinting down the field en route to a goal that will tie the game and send it into overtime. The truth is , their selfish play hurts the team throughout the entire game. The selfish player may score 5 goals but her turnovers (including forced, bad and poor shots) nay result in 4 or 5 goals for the other team. Many times if the selfish player wold simply make the right play at the right time not only would her team score more goals, they would give up fewer goals. The net positive as a result of good, smart, unselfish team play will always be much greater then that of selfish play. The best plays are not alway reflected in the scorebook but competent coaches always recognize them.

On my third girl and have been watching girls HS Lax for the better part of 11 years. The selfish "run to goal girl" will score a bunch of goals and look great when playing overmatched opponents. However, that same selfish style of play will work against the team when they play strong competition in a playoff or championship game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, and some of those listed in Newsday top scorers have coaches that allow stat padding, while others not listed have coaches that pull starters once clock is running. It's called sportsmanship-anyone remember what that is?

On a weak team the "Go to Goal Girl" does not have a choice. When weak teams play each other it is generally the team with the better "ball hog" that wins. Weak teams will never compete for a championship.

On teams with a lot of strong players the "Go to Goal Girl" is a detriment. Even when they score a bunch of goals they usually detract from the overall performance of the team. Scoring goals is (obviously) not the problem, "selfish play" is the issue. The girl who puts her head down and runs to the goal almost every time she touches the ball hurts her team more than she helps the team. Coaches, parents, fans and players who do not understand the game only realize how detrimental the behavior is when it is blatantly obvious at a critical point in the game. Everyone will say "why, why did she shoot the ball?" or "why, why did she try to run through three girls?" or "why, why didn't she pass the ball?" as the other team is sprinting down the field en route to a goal that will tie the game and send it into overtime. The truth is , their selfish play hurts the team throughout the entire game. The selfish player may score 5 goals but her turnovers (including forced, bad and poor shots) nay result in 4 or 5 goals for the other team. Many times if the selfish player wold simply make the right play at the right time not only would her team score more goals, they would give up fewer goals. The net positive as a result of good, smart, unselfish team play will always be much greater then that of selfish play. The best plays are not alway reflected in the scorebook but competent coaches always recognize them.

On my third girl and have been watching girls HS Lax for the better part of 11 years. The selfish "run to goal girl" will score a bunch of goals and look great when playing overmatched opponents. However, that same selfish style of play will work against the team when they play strong competition in a playoff or championship game.

I agree. I've seen it also and you've got it right.

Well said. Not one of the big time scores will ever win a championship. They are very good players but they have no choice to score all the time.

Very well said.
We have 1 girl on our high school team that does exactly that - head down, run straight to goal. She also gets tons of fouls. The coach loves her.
On the other hand, she's also on our club team and the other players don't let her get away with this and neither does the coach.
The coach should bench these girls. Then they would learn to pass.

100% Correct - very simple - the stats are meaningless and don't reflect any of the other equally important actions of other players - ground balls, strong defense, draw control and making smart plays. They only serve to encourage the "go to goal" mentality which inhibits team success.

every team has these girls. I find a lot of them to be kids whose own parents coached them, it extends past PAL onto all the other teams they play. Even when the game is well out of hand with little time left these players continue to stat pad. Unfortunately, they get a lot of recognition and boxscore praise , so it's just something we've become numb to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

every team has these girls. I find a lot of them to be kids whose own parents coached them, it extends past PAL onto all the other teams they play. Even when the game is well out of hand with little time left these players continue to stat pad. Unfortunately, they get a lot of recognition and boxscore praise , so it's just something we've become numb to.

Ugh, so true. The girl in my district, her parents lived for her stats. She got all sorts of post-season recognition even though she couldn't go to her non-dominant hand, even though she had to have my daughter explain every play to her on repeat, even though she'd ignore coaching. And now she plays in college and the coach moved her to defense. I L'dMAO over that while her parents tried to tell me she likes it better because "there's less pressure." Riiight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, and some of those listed in Newsday top scorers have coaches that allow stat padding, while others not listed have coaches that pull starters once clock is running. It's called sportsmanship-anyone remember what that is?

On a weak team the "Go to Goal Girl" does not have a choice. When weak teams play each other it is generally the team with the better "ball hog" that wins. Weak teams will never compete for a championship.

On teams with a lot of strong players the "Go to Goal Girl" is a detriment. Even when they score a bunch of goals they usually detract from the overall performance of the team. Scoring goals is (obviously) not the problem, "selfish play" is the issue. The girl who puts her head down and runs to the goal almost every time she touches the ball hurts her team more than she helps the team. Coaches, parents, fans and players who do not understand the game only realize how detrimental the behavior is when it is blatantly obvious at a critical point in the game. Everyone will say "why, why did she shoot the ball?" or "why, why did she try to run through three girls?" or "why, why didn't she pass the ball?" as the other team is sprinting down the field en route to a goal that will tie the game and send it into overtime. The truth is , their selfish play hurts the team throughout the entire game. The selfish player may score 5 goals but her turnovers (including forced, bad and poor shots) nay result in 4 or 5 goals for the other team. Many times if the selfish player wold simply make the right play at the right time not only would her team score more goals, they would give up fewer goals. The net positive as a result of good, smart, unselfish team play will always be much greater then that of selfish play. The best plays are not alway reflected in the scorebook but competent coaches always recognize them.

On my third girl and have been watching girls HS Lax for the better part of 11 years. The selfish "run to goal girl" will score a bunch of goals and look great when playing overmatched opponents. However, that same selfish style of play will work against the team when they play strong competition in a playoff or championship game.

I agree. I've seen it also and you've got it right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, and some of those listed in Newsday top scorers have coaches that allow stat padding, while others not listed have coaches that pull starters once clock is running. It's called sportsmanship-anyone remember what that is?

On a weak team the "Go to Goal Girl" does not have a choice. When weak teams play each other it is generally the team with the better "ball hog" that wins. Weak teams will never compete for a championship.

On teams with a lot of strong players the "Go to Goal Girl" is a detriment. Even when they score a bunch of goals they usually detract from the overall performance of the team. Scoring goals is (obviously) not the problem, "selfish play" is the issue. The girl who puts her head down and runs to the goal almost every time she touches the ball hurts her team more than she helps the team. Coaches, parents, fans and players who do not understand the game only realize how detrimental the behavior is when it is blatantly obvious at a critical point in the game. Everyone will say "why, why did she shoot the ball?" or "why, why did she try to run through three girls?" or "why, why didn't she pass the ball?" as the other team is sprinting down the field en route to a goal that will tie the game and send it into overtime. The truth is , their selfish play hurts the team throughout the entire game. The selfish player may score 5 goals but her turnovers (including forced, bad and poor shots) nay result in 4 or 5 goals for the other team. Many times if the selfish player wold simply make the right play at the right time not only would her team score more goals, they would give up fewer goals. The net positive as a result of good, smart, unselfish team play will always be much greater then that of selfish play. The best plays are not alway reflected in the scorebook but competent coaches always recognize them.

On my third girl and have been watching girls HS Lax for the better part of 11 years. The selfish "run to goal girl" will score a bunch of goals and look great when playing overmatched opponents. However, that same selfish style of play will work against the team when they play strong competition in a playoff or championship game.

You are spot on with this post, and I totally agree. What baffles me, is why so many coaches encourage this type of selfish play. Many times those girls that charge, plow and go to goal even when they have no shot, are the favorites of the coach. It makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa would be better if their coaches had a clue what they were doing

Nothing to do with the coaches. The team is lacking talent.

Underperforming . . . yes. Lack of talent . . . I don't think so. Would love to hear your talent evaluation credentials.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, and some of those listed in Newsday top scorers have coaches that allow stat padding, while others not listed have coaches that pull starters once clock is running. It's called sportsmanship-anyone remember what that is?

On a weak team the "Go to Goal Girl" does not have a choice. When weak teams play each other it is generally the team with the better "ball hog" that wins. Weak teams will never compete for a championship.

On teams with a lot of strong players the "Go to Goal Girl" is a detriment. Even when they score a bunch of goals they usually detract from the overall performance of the team. Scoring goals is (obviously) not the problem, "selfish play" is the issue. The girl who puts her head down and runs to the goal almost every time she touches the ball hurts her team more than she helps the team. Coaches, parents, fans and players who do not understand the game only realize how detrimental the behavior is when it is blatantly obvious at a critical point in the game. Everyone will say "why, why did she shoot the ball?" or "why, why did she try to run through three girls?" or "why, why didn't she pass the ball?" as the other team is sprinting down the field en route to a goal that will tie the game and send it into overtime. The truth is , their selfish play hurts the team throughout the entire game. The selfish player may score 5 goals but her turnovers (including forced, bad and poor shots) nay result in 4 or 5 goals for the other team. Many times if the selfish player wold simply make the right play at the right time not only would her team score more goals, they would give up fewer goals. The net positive as a result of good, smart, unselfish team play will always be much greater then that of selfish play. The best plays are not alway reflected in the scorebook but competent coaches always recognize them.

On my third girl and have been watching girls HS Lax for the better part of 11 years. The selfish "run to goal girl" will score a bunch of goals and look great when playing overmatched opponents. However, that same selfish style of play will work against the team when they play strong competition in a playoff or championship game.

I agree. I've seen it also and you've got it right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, and some of those listed in Newsday top scorers have coaches that allow stat padding, while others not listed have coaches that pull starters once clock is running. It's called sportsmanship-anyone remember what that is?

On a weak team the "Go to Goal Girl" does not have a choice. When weak teams play each other it is generally the team with the better "ball hog" that wins. Weak teams will never compete for a championship.

On teams with a lot of strong players the "Go to Goal Girl" is a detriment. Even when they score a bunch of goals they usually detract from the overall performance of the team. Scoring goals is (obviously) not the problem, "selfish play" is the issue. The girl who puts her head down and runs to the goal almost every time she touches the ball hurts her team more than she helps the team. Coaches, parents, fans and players who do not understand the game only realize how detrimental the behavior is when it is blatantly obvious at a critical point in the game. Everyone will say "why, why did she shoot the ball?" or "why, why did she try to run through three girls?" or "why, why didn't she pass the ball?" as the other team is sprinting down the field en route to a goal that will tie the game and send it into overtime. The truth is , their selfish play hurts the team throughout the entire game. The selfish player may score 5 goals but her turnovers (including forced, bad and poor shots) nay result in 4 or 5 goals for the other team. Many times if the selfish player wold simply make the right play at the right time not only would her team score more goals, they would give up fewer goals. The net positive as a result of good, smart, unselfish team play will always be much greater then that of selfish play. The best plays are not alway reflected in the scorebook but competent coaches always recognize them.

On my third girl and have been watching girls HS Lax for the better part of 11 years. The selfish "run to goal girl" will score a bunch of goals and look great when playing overmatched opponents. However, that same selfish style of play will work against the team when they play strong competition in a playoff or championship game.

You are spot on with this post, and I totally agree. What baffles me, is why so many coaches encourage this type of selfish play. Many times those girls that charge, plow and go to goal even when they have no shot, are the favorites of the coach. It makes no sense.

Because many of the coaches aren't really coaches and simply don't care. They're just padding their teacher's retirement. It's just a job and as long as they do enough to keep the AD happy, they've done their job. The coaches that love the sport and are students of the game have successful teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa would be better if their coaches had a clue what they were doing

Nothing to do with the coaches. The team is lacking talent.

Underperforming . . . yes. Lack of talent . . . I don't think so. Would love to hear your talent evaluation credentials.

Any team that depends on 8th, now 9th grader to carry the load by definition has a lack of talent

Farmingdale lost to Smithtown East by 10, what is up with Farmingdale.

They stink

PAL coaches now run the athletic booster clubs. They wont let go and let these HS coaches try and fix what they broke for 5 years like its ok to pass the ball to kids not named Shannon

Massapequa is a very good, young team. My daughter's team played them and I was very impressed with their athleticism and a number of girls who can play lax. My daughter is a senior so I won't see them next year, but I think they're going to be one of the teams to beat. I hope they remain in the power conference. They belong.

What the heck is going on at Farmingdale, Macarthur and Plainedge this year?

Any predictions for Gains for Brains games this upcoming Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor? Good lineup of teams.

Stink, Stink and Plainedge best player out for year so that hurts.

Lynbrook just as bad. They play nobody

The WH girl is a talent and she has 20 goals and 9 assists in their 4 wins and 13 goals and 1 assist in their 4 losses is that really that out of the ordinary?
I have more of an issue with the NB girl (who I don't know) who scored 17 goals in two games against teams with a combined 1-13 record

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What the heck is going on at Farmingdale, Macarthur and Plainedge this year?

Zero depth. Getting beat up by teams. So much for so called great coaches. Showing that unless they have talent they are just like everyone else

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The WH girl is a talent and she has 20 goals and 9 assists in their 4 wins and 13 goals and 1 assist in their 4 losses is that really that out of the ordinary?
I have more of an issue with the NB girl (who I don't know) who scored 17 goals in two games against teams with a combined 1-13 record

Thanks dad, how long did it take you to find somebody worse than your daughter

Why is Franklin Ma good this year?

That girl on West Hampton is one of the best on LI. 16-8 isn't that bad, you parents are just jealous of her. She just adds to the crop of top LI players committed to BC. Wish she was going Terps though:)

Game was 18-6. Scored 8 not 9. Easy games only scores 2 or 3. On my kids travel team. She passes as much as she shoots. Calling BS on this ones

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stink, Stink and Plainedge best player out for year so that hurts.

Don't believe the hype about the coaching. Its always the players

The people that give the awards care nothing about sportsmanship and have no appreciation for totality of what makes a team great which is a balance at every position, not just which player has the most points.

Someone is a little jealous of the WHB kid. Take your meds dude. You look like a fool.

The people who give the awards are your daughters coaches.

I cant speak to Suffolk but the best teams in Nassau don't have anyone near the top of the stat lead because the best Nassau teams play a team game where the ball is shared especially in blowout wins.

The one girl going to goal only works with terrible coaches playing weak teams. If your team is built around a few players you wont be going far come playoff time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone is a little jealous of the WHB kid. Take your meds dude. You look like a fool.

WH is terrible, irrelevant team...who cares.

Lynbrook?

#1 player in the country has 9 goals and 5 assists in a 13 goal win in beginning of the year... anyone?

18-9 Rocky Point - Kid has 8 goals. Anyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The people who give the awards are your daughters coaches.

Exactly - same people who allow the girls to score so many goals in the first place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What the heck is going on at Farmingdale, Macarthur and Plainedge this year?

Farmingdale coaching is great but talent pool just isn't there this year. MacArthur has talent but coaching has never been there and Plainedge only had one way overhyped senior who is out for season with injury. South Side will be the team to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

18-9 Rocky Point - Kid has 8 goals. Anyone?

Apparently they only go after certain kids....North Babylon kid, Westhampton kid and ESM kid. They all scored 8 goals and got ripped apart. Rocky Point kid gets picture and write up in the paper

Maybe they will take away the MC girls All-American accolade and write a rebuttal for the Newsday article written about the Rocky Point girl based on your "evaluation" of their sportsmanship... No awards this year for anyone except this guys kid who is standing in the 8 meter, jumping up and down, not scoring very much and complaining that the kids busting their asses are not passing her the ball. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

18-9 Rocky Point - Kid has 8 goals. Anyone?

Apparently they only go after certain kids....North Babylon kid, Westhampton kid and ESM kid. They all scored 8 goals and got ripped apart. Rocky Point kid gets picture and write up in the paper

PATHETIC , you are trying to use a couple other ball hog players to justify a player being a ball hog . No offense but we have multiple kids in our team that could put up 10 plus easy against the East Hamptons of the world but the kids would not do it because they are not desperate to be noticed, their coach would pull them , their parents would be embarrassed , the captains would not allow it . You are obviously one of those leaderboard followers as you are very concerned about the other kids points.

ummm did anyone see Duke's most recent score? 21-1??????

ESM 14-6 - kid has 8 goals... say good bye to her accolade

Kings Park 17-2 - kid has 7 goals... should definitely bench her

WH 16-8 - kid has 8 goals... she should give up the sport so psycho daddy doesn't have to feel so bad.

What a tool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ummm did anyone see Duke's most recent score? 21-1??????

So you want to equate how your kid is taught to play in HS with regard to sportsmanship with D1 sports ethics? I don't.
Make sure your kid takes some fluff classes and avoids stuff like AP while you are at it... since that's what they do at Duke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ummm did anyone see Duke's most recent score? 21-1??????

Yes, against a weak team with the scoring spread out amongst 12 players. Not 2 kids scoring 8 apiece.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ESM 14-6 - kid has 8 goals... say good bye to her accolade

Kings Park 17-2 - kid has 7 goals... should definitely bench her

WH 16-8 - kid has 8 goals... she should give up the sport so psycho daddy doesn't have to feel so bad.

What a tool

The good news is my kid plays for a team that none of those kids (maybe the MC kid) would put those numbers up against. Its so obvious that you are a clueless tough guy when you are trying to justify the 8 goals because the final score was 16-8 obviously too ignorant to realize the game was over by halftime so WH put their 2nd string in. In other words because your tiny brain cannot understand it the game was non competitive and no need to have 1 kid score 8 goals other than padding her stats. I have seen it in the past and was happy to see when those ball hogs were left off the select teams etc. You are obviously one of those [lacrosse] parents that get a kick out of your thug kid beating up on weaker smaller kids. What a loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

18-9 Rocky Point - Kid has 8 goals. Anyone?

Apparently they only go after certain kids....North Babylon kid, Westhampton kid and ESM kid. They all scored 8 goals and got ripped apart. Rocky Point kid gets picture and write up in the paper

PATHETIC , you are trying to use a couple other ball hog players to justify a player being a ball hog . No offense but we have multiple kids in our team that could put up 10 plus easy against the East Hamptons of the world but the kids would not do it because they are not desperate to be noticed, their coach would pull them , their parents would be embarrassed , the captains would not allow it . You are obviously one of those leaderboard followers as you are very concerned about the other kids points.

You're clueless. Stop labeling those kids ball hogs when you know nothing about them as players or people!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ummm did anyone see Duke's most recent score? 21-1??????

Yes, against a weak team with the scoring spread out amongst 12 players. Not 2 kids scoring 8 apiece.

...a good point as well

In the local games mentioned, where kids scored 7-9 goals, the games are won by 7-9 goals. This is lacrosse right? Winning by 7-9 is not a blow out - You're comparing Duke who destroyed a team 21-1. You're desperate. Look over the stats troll because in local blowouts every team has a full box score. The more you try, the more people can "evaluate" that you are annoyed that your little Sally is not scoring more so you try to justify by trash talking and stalking everyone's stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In the local games mentioned, where kids scored 7-9 goals, the games are won by 7-9 goals. This is lacrosse right? Winning by 7-9 is not a blow out - You're comparing Duke who destroyed a team 21-1. You're desperate. Look over the stats troll because in local blowouts every team has a full box score. The more you try, the more people can "evaluate" that you are annoyed that your little Sally is not scoring more so you try to justify by trash talking and stalking everyone's stats.

If you do not think WHB playing Easthampton is a non competitive game it's just shows you are ignorant . Once you have shown yourself to be ignorant the rest of what you post is useless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

#1 player in the country has 9 goals and 5 assists in a 13 goal win in beginning of the year... anyone?

where does the mythical #1 player in the country play?

and once again... it's about the WH kid? You are a psychopath with a sick obsession for this kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

#1 player in the country has 9 goals and 5 assists in a 13 goal win in beginning of the year... anyone?

where does the mythical #1 player in the country play?

Mythical? Middle Country - MC vs Sachem East 22- 9 - Her 9 goals in a game they won by 13 are fine because she comes from MC not WH.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

#1 player in the country has 9 goals and 5 assists in a 13 goal win in beginning of the year... anyone?

where does the mythical #1 player in the country play?

I'll give you a hint....Middle Country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and once again... it's about the WH kid? You are a psychopath with a sick obsession for this kid.

What post are you replying to moron. If you people think any of those ball hogs you mentioned are even close to being in the same league as the Middle Country kid you are clueless. The reason I don't consider the MC kid to even be in the same league is she is good enough to put up big numbers against any team those other ballhogs can only do it against overmatched teams or in junk time when the other teams backups are in .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

#1 player in the country has 9 goals and 5 assists in a 13 goal win in beginning of the year... anyone?

where does the mythical #1 player in the country play?

I'll give you a hint....Middle Country

You know what they say, opinions are like...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and once again... it's about the WH kid? You are a psychopath with a sick obsession for this kid.

What post are you replying to moron. If you people think any of those ball hogs you mentioned are even close to being in the same league as the Middle Country kid you are clueless. The reason I don't consider the MC kid to even be in the same league is she is good enough to put up big numbers against any team those other ballhogs can only do it against overmatched teams or in junk time when the other teams backups are in .

Lol....you really are clueless. You have no clue what you are talking about. According to you, Boston College, Stonybrook and Notre Dame coaches are clueless. Stop being so jealous! Get a life and stop hating on talented 15 year old girls.

ND coach is clueless, BC is debatable and SB knows what he's doing

There is a big difference between a girl who "runs to the goal" and a girl who scores a lot of goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is a big difference between a girl who "runs to the goal" and a girl who scores a lot of goals.

Sounds like a parent of a kid that goes to goal

OK so, hating on teenagers when all you see is the scoreline and stats of a game is ridiculous. I am a WHB parent and was at the game. The girl you are all talking about is the best player on the team with a young attack around her. She posts numbers consistently and in the previous two "easy" games only had 2 or 3 goals with about 8 different scorers in each game. Every single player played in this game. The score was 9-0 at half and the two top attacker were not going to goal in the second half (and didn't even play the whole game). Rather they were looking to feed their teammates. At one point the score line was 12-7/8.... clearly not a blow out and the goalie had 13 saves, in addition to multiple dropped passes inside the 8. When the score is that close late in the game, a 16-8 score is def not a blowout. From our perspective on the sideline, every kid had the opportunity to go to goal, but not everyone capitalized. When a team is closing in and guaranteeing a win is important, you do what you have to do.

Stop being so judgmental when you don't actually know the circumstances. If the score was 16-0, then maybe you could question some decisions that were made, but that was not how this game played out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is a big difference between a girl who "runs to the goal" and a girl who scores a lot of goals.

Sounds like a parent of a kid that goes to goal

You sound like a jealous bitter schmuck. My daughters team has a lot of girls (more than 10) who can "go to the goal" the team also has five girls who try to "run to the goal" almost every time they have the ball.

As the above post stated, there is a big difference between a girl who "runs to the goal" and girl who scores a lot of goals. There is also a big difference between a girl who can "go to the goal" when it is the right play and a girl who "runs to the goal" when she should be passing. Some girls make the play that is best for the team (with or without the ball) and some girls are extremely selfish. The team is strong with many very good players at all positions but there are some who play a very selfish game.

If the coaches do not correct the situation the team will fall short of their potential.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for Gains for Brains games this upcoming Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor? Good lineup of teams.

Well, let's see:

#1 Ridgewood vs #13 Wantagh:

#1 Ridgewood beat (now #3) Darien 10-8
Wantagh is #13, but a strong team.
I hope Wantagh can keep it competitive, not get blown out.

Moorestown, NJ, 5-1 record
#2 Garden City beat Darien 17-11
If GC plays their game, it should be a win for GC

They should really have GC play Ridgewood (if they both win) as a Championship game!

GC plays Wantagh on 5/4, so that Ridgewood vs. Wantagh game will be of interest to GC.

Predictions? who knows???

So i am wondering, Earlier in the year when that indoor championship happened a Mass. parent came on and said it wasn't reall a true championship because no Mass team was there, it wasn't full teams, and only 7v7. Now that G.C. has gone up to Mass.and beat your last years #3 and #6 by a total combined score of 27-9, do you still think you can hang with the L.I. girls?

Add ESM girls to the nonsense of beating up on weak teams. Scored 19 today , but took 33 shots on goal and big time players kept scoring. BT and Dad coach a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Add ESM girls to the nonsense of beating up on weak teams. Scored 19 today , but took 33 shots on goal and big time players kept scoring. BT and Dad coach a joke

Starters were pulled early in first half. Two starters didn't play at all. Not sure what would have been acceptable to you. BT does the right thing. There is no dad coach. ESM has no stat leaders. So who ever this ESM hater is, it is a personal issue you need to work out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Add ESM girls to the nonsense of beating up on weak teams. Scored 19 today , but took 33 shots on goal and big time players kept scoring. BT and Dad coach a joke

10 different ESM goal scorers, and the 8th grade goalie played.

Why do we even give this stat stalker the time of day? One person get's way to much attention and that is the troll stalking the girls stats every day. He needs to be institutionalized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Add ESM girls to the nonsense of beating up on weak teams. Scored 19 today , but took 33 shots on goal and big time players kept scoring. BT and Dad coach a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Add ESM girls to the nonsense of beating up on weak teams. Scored 19 today , but took 33 shots on goal and big time players kept scoring. BT and Dad coach a joke

Were you outraged when Kings Park beat up on Center Moriches 17-2, with one player scoring 7 goals? The teams are what they are. Some are evenly matched, others aren't. The girls still all need to play.

Wantagh should not be a ranked team. I saw they lost to Syosset yesterday. Unfortunately they graduated too much from last year. I agree GC should have been scheduled against Ridgewod.

Which Nassau teams need a coaching change?

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Can someone post the schedule for Gains for Brains

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do we even give this stat stalker the time of day? One person get's way to much attention and that is the troll stalking the girls stats every day. He needs to be institutionalized.

First its not just one person pointing out some of the unsportsmanlike play of some teams and players. The most recent ESM game did not bother me much ,silly that the one kid feels the need to pad their stats and put up 5 in a completely non competitive game but there has certainly been worse examples out there. I do feel the teams putting up 20 and over goals against completely overmatched teams is a poor reflection on the coach and shows a lack of understanding or ignorance of what sportsmanship is. Many of the goalies on these overmatched teams volunteered to play that position because no one else would and lighting them up for 50 minutes is just ridiculous. Slow it down from the beginning so you don't have to stall for the last 10 minutes of the game its not that difficult.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh should not be a ranked team. I saw they lost to Syosset yesterday. Unfortunately they graduated too much from last year. I agree GC should have been scheduled against Ridgewod.

Summit and Bridgewater very strong teams this year as well. I think both will win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Yes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

12 different girls contributed to ESM's goals. So stop it already!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

Might want to do a little research before you start the name calling, you [lacrosse]. According to Newsday, there were 16 different goal scorers in that 17-0 game, and the one girl who scored 2 had only scored 1 all year going into the game. Take it with a grain of salt because we all know how inconsistent assist stats can be, but they also show that 14 of the 17 goals were assisted. And it was SWR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Yes!

WHY are people even responding the one jackass that micromanages every game? It validates a psychopath who is as dumb as a rock. Let the troll bang his chest, call everyone a "moron" (lol) . Let him open his mouth and we just ignore the attention he is obviously desperate for! Let him watch everyone do well. It is torcturing him. If anyone figures out who it is we can put x-lax in his budlight this summer and expose him to the lacrosse community! LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

And by the way, it wasn't the first time for SWR - they had 13 goal scorers in a 14-0 game earlier in the season, with 10 assists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Yes!

I would like to clear something up, it is okay to have a "me first" mentality, you want that, you definitely want that in competitive sports. It is when it is the "me only" mentality that it is no good. A player that can distinguish that really isnt a "Me first" player either. They know they will get theirs, whether in points as an assist or goal.

Conversely i have a player who would like no better than to hear the crowd roar after that "one more" pass for a goal when (me and a few other parents ask why did they shoot themselves) and should have taken the shot. I have to stress, A flashy "one more" is not as important than a good goal. Go figure.

That said, there is nothing wrong with the ME ONLY, wish my kid had that but when the team is out matched there is no reason to get yours. you look foolish but they dont see that. Kids know and actually make fun of each other for that. Sure ownness has got to be on coach, you want to keep the kid in - okay, MAKE THEM GET ASSISTS AND BE THE CATALYST !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Yes!

I would like to clear something up, it is okay to have a "me first" mentality, you want that, you definitely want that in competitive sports. It is when it is the "me only" mentality that it is no good. A player that can distinguish that really isnt a "Me first" player either. They know they will get theirs, whether in points as an assist or goal.

Conversely i have a player who would like no better than to hear the crowd roar after that "one more" pass for a goal when (me and a few other parents ask why did they shoot themselves) and should have taken the shot. I have to stress, A flashy "one more" is not as important than a good goal. Go figure.

That said, there is nothing wrong with the ME ONLY, wish my kid had that but when the team is out matched there is no reason to get yours. you look foolish but they dont see that. Kids know and actually make fun of each other for that. Sure ownness has got to be on coach, you want to keep the kid in - okay, MAKE THEM GET ASSISTS AND BE THE CATALYST !!!

ownnus is diffenitley on the koach

Did Northport play down in Florida over break? Was the alleged shoplifting incident before or after the game?

No, it happened before they went out drinking but after they stole the team bus..

farmingdale cant be happy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ownnus is diffenitley on the koach

This post, doh. It is perfection.

What happened with Northport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Yes!

I would like to clear something up, it is okay to have a "me first" mentality, you want that, you definitely want that in competitive sports. It is when it is the "me only" mentality that it is no good. A player that can distinguish that really isnt a "Me first" player either. They know they will get theirs, whether in points as an assist or goal.

Conversely i have a player who would like no better than to hear the crowd roar after that "one more" pass for a goal when (me and a few other parents ask why did they shoot themselves) and should have taken the shot. I have to stress, A flashy "one more" is not as important than a good goal. Go figure.

That said, there is nothing wrong with the ME ONLY, wish my kid had that but when the team is out matched there is no reason to get yours. you look foolish but they dont see that. Kids know and actually make fun of each other for that. Sure ownness has got to be on coach, you want to keep the kid in - okay, MAKE THEM GET ASSISTS AND BE THE CATALYST !!!

Thanks for klearing it up for us. By the way...I have NO IDEA what you're trying to say in your statement. It's gibberish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is a big difference between a girl who "runs to the goal" and a girl who scores a lot of goals.

Sounds like a parent of a kid that goes to goal

You sound like a jealous bitter schmuck. My daughters team has a lot of girls (more than 10) who can "go to the goal" the team also has five girls who try to "run to the goal" almost every time they have the ball.

As the above post stated, there is a big difference between a girl who "runs to the goal" and girl who scores a lot of goals. There is also a big difference between a girl who can "go to the goal" when it is the right play and a girl who "runs to the goal" when she should be passing. Some girls make the play that is best for the team (with or without the ball) and some girls are extremely selfish. The team is strong with many very good players at all positions but there are some who play a very selfish game.

If the coaches do not correct the situation the team will fall short of their potential.

Teams that have coaches who allow selfish play will always come up short. My daughters team has a bunch of very good players who work their tails off and do all of the little things that contribute to the teams success. They hustle, communicate, pick up loose balls, re-defend, pass when appropriate, work off ball, play team defense and generally give great effort all over the field. They will also go to the goal when the situation dictates it. Unfortunately, we also have some lazy selfish players who hurt the team more than they help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Yes!

I would like to clear something up, it is okay to have a "me first" mentality, you want that, you definitely want that in competitive sports. It is when it is the "me only" mentality that it is no good. A player that can distinguish that really isnt a "Me first" player either. They know they will get theirs, whether in points as an assist or goal.

Conversely i have a player who would like no better than to hear the crowd roar after that "one more" pass for a goal when (me and a few other parents ask why did they shoot themselves) and should have taken the shot. I have to stress, A flashy "one more" is not as important than a good goal. Go figure.

That said, there is nothing wrong with the ME ONLY, wish my kid had that but when the team is out matched there is no reason to get yours. you look foolish but they dont see that. Kids know and actually make fun of each other for that. Sure ownness has got to be on coach, you want to keep the kid in - okay, MAKE THEM GET ASSISTS AND BE THE CATALYST !!!

ownnus is diffenitley on the koach

Anus?

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw some team, and I'm blanking but I think it was SWR, who won a game something like 17-0. Only one girl scored 2 goals, the rest were divvied up. That's the way to do it.

Oh ok. Give me a break. Doesnt work like that moron and in your world its all butterflies and rainbows and the cop should have shot him in the hand!

You my friend are the moron and what is wrong with this ME FIRST sport. Pass the freakin ball, spread the wealth and play as a team and if there are lopsided games at least you can say we had 10,11,12 DIFFERENT goal scorers. That's what winning teams do.

Yes!

I would like to clear something up, it is okay to have a "me first" mentality, you want that, you definitely want that in competitive sports. It is when it is the "me only" mentality that it is no good. A player that can distinguish that really isnt a "Me first" player either. They know they will get theirs, whether in points as an assist or goal.

Conversely i have a player who would like no better than to hear the crowd roar after that "one more" pass for a goal when (me and a few other parents ask why did they shoot themselves) and should have taken the shot. I have to stress, A flashy "one more" is not as important than a good goal. Go figure.

That said, there is nothing wrong with the ME ONLY, wish my kid had that but when the team is out matched there is no reason to get yours. you look foolish but they dont see that. Kids know and actually make fun of each other for that. Sure ownness has got to be on coach, you want to keep the kid in - okay, MAKE THEM GET ASSISTS AND BE THE CATALYST !!!

Thanks for klearing it up for us. By the way...I have NO IDEA what you're trying to say in your statement. It's gibberish.

Their are sum krazy peeple in this wurld

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

And New Hyde Park in Conference 5 is undefeated - they will have an impact come the playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

And New Hyde Park in Conference 5 is undefeated - they will have an impact come the playoffs

What conf do they go back to for playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another week down, any surprises on teams? Winners keep winning (GC, CSH, Ocean, SS) and for the teams struggling it just keeps getting worse Farm, PE, Mac, CP)

W L T
Garden City 7 0 0
Cold Spring Harbor 5 1 0
Long Beach 3 3 0
Wantagh 3 2 0
North Shore 3 3 0
Manhasset 2 2 0
Syosset 2 4 0
Massapequa 2 3 0
Port Washington 1 5 0
Farmingdale 1 4 0
Nassau Conference II Conference Overall
Team W L T
Oceanside 5 0 0
South Side 5 0 0
Lynbrook 4 1 0
Locust Valley 3 1 0
Seaford 2 3 0
Calhoun 2 3 0
Oyster Bay 1 3 0
Plainedge 1 4 0
MacArthur 0 4 0
Carle Place 0 4 0

And New Hyde Park in Conference 5 is undefeated - they will have an impact come the playoffs

What conf do they go back to for playoffs?

New Hyde Park - really? They are not very good. They are beating teams in Conf V. The teams they are beating - Roosevelt, Hempstead, West Hempstead, Great Neck, etc. They are beating schools that dont have youth lax in their towns. Why are they playing in Conf 5 to begin with? They will go an entire season and not play one competitive game and then get crushed in their only playoff game. The coach thinks the team is so good and is all intense when they are up by 19 goals as if they are beating a real team. They wont have ANY impact come playoff time. New Hyde Park - really?

What happen to WI ????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to WI ????

Keep on stirring.

Where's my post

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to WI ????

Overated coach who doesn't have his star players anymore so now they are not that good

Lmfao. You have no clue. Wait til next year. Mc will be in same boat when their seniors graduate. Their jv team blows. So will be a great team. Give them a year

I'd take the wi anyway. Girls love him and he knows what he's doing. Wm sucked last yr and coach is a lunatic. Lucky this yr.

How is the cover up going in Northport?

I can tell you where wi isn't. Shoplifting in fla.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can tell you where wi isn't. Shoplifting in fla.

No those bunch of thugs/ dudes are shoplifting on Long Island .

If you want a dude look at ur coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want a dude look at ur coach.

I would but your wife is blocking out the view like a solar eclipse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want a dude look at ur coach.

I would but your wife is blocking out the view like a solar eclipse.

Stop deflecting and explain how shoplifting by the team in Florida gets swept under the rug with no ramifications from the school district?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want a dude look at ur coach.

I would but your wife is blocking out the view like a solar eclipse.

Stop deflecting and explain how shoplifting by the team in Florida gets swept under the rug with no ramifications from the school district?

that is a damn good question. Especially when the girls tweet about it. And everyone knows about it yet kids are still playing. Hmmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want a dude look at ur coach.

I would but your wife is blocking out the view like a solar eclipse.

Stop deflecting and explain how shoplifting by the team in Florida gets swept under the rug with no ramifications from the school district?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want a dude look at ur coach.

I would but your wife is blocking out the view like a solar eclipse.

Stop deflecting and explain how shoplifting by the team in Florida gets swept under the rug with no ramifications from the school district?

I spoke w a school board member who said it's none of your business but will probably do nothing because they know it bothers nosey aholes like you and they think it's funny.

Very tough day for Long Island lacrosse today at Gains for Brains. All 4 NJ teams won handily - Ridgewood, Moorestown who beat Garden City, Bridgewater, and Summit. Darien also won. Top NJ teams listed above very strong this year. Summit has won all of their games three years in a row at this tournament against LI teams, and they also beat Smithtown West this year (not at this tournament).

Find the facts b4 posting [lacrosse] on here. Talking [lacrosse] doesn't get u the W we took from you

Wasn't swept under the rug asshat! NorthportsI taking care of it don't worry. Either way we'll still beat ur team

Do you think wi is the only town that knows about it. You're hated by pretty much everyone. Looking forward to wm handing you another loss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very tough day for Long Island lacrosse today at Gains for Brains. All 4 NJ teams won handily - Ridgewood, Moorestown who beat Garden City, Bridgewater, and Summit. Darien also won. Top NJ teams listed above very strong this year. Summit has won all of their games three years in a row at this tournament against LI teams, and they also beat Smithtown West this year (not at this tournament).

The other regions have caught up and LI is having a down year both girls and boys. GC is a shocking loss because they were undefeated and beat some good teams. Wantagh loss was expected but they hung tough for a while. MC is a good team but not great. They were down at one point 12 - 4. CSH loss not unexpected, this was their 5th loss already this year. Mt Sinai beat CBA from Syracuse yesterday, they were last years state A champs so looks like they are starting to roll.

That's a great win by Mt. Sinai

Why is CBA, a very expensive private school, allowed to compete in the NYS PUBLIC school league? It has always baffled me why some schools are allowed to do it. Friends is another private school that competes in the public. Just doesn't seem right. Can anyone explain the history of these schools' being allowed to compete in the public?
Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is CBA, a very expensive private school, allowed to compete in the NYS PUBLIC school league? It has always baffled me why some schools are allowed to do it. Friends is another private school that competes in the public. Just doesn't seem right. Can anyone explain the history of these schools' being allowed to compete in the public?
Thank you

why do you care?

I could not agree more. They do not belong playing public schools. I personally care because you child goes to public school where the talent is what it is you make the best of it when you have a school like CBA you have your pick of stud athletes and you put them on one team it's like Saint Anthony's. They should not be playing in a public school competition

GC cry babies- got it handed to them yesterday. The score was only that close because they got some extra man up. They are over rated..our jersey talent just exposed the frauds they truly are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could not agree more. They do not belong playing public schools. I personally care because you child goes to public school where the talent is what it is you make the best of it when you have a school like CBA you have your pick of stud athletes and you put them on one team it's like Saint Anthony's. They should not be playing in a public school competition

Based on all sports, I don't think any "stud" athletes go to friends. Who cares!

Are you always such an idiot?

In Md, public schools beat private and vice versa. Suck it up and play hard and stop making excuses for your kids team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK is a very knowledgeable coach and having seen the attention to detail and the energy he puts forth to train girls, the HT team will have success because, compared to coaches form other schools who may never have even touched a lax stick before, he has done it and makes an effort to actually coach
That being said, he is severely lacking as a person and his scruples are non-existent--just check his record from his past 'real" jobs. The bridges he has burned over the years and the sour taste folks come away with after spending any time with him is well documented.
Are the HT girls forced to practice with Team Elevate warm-ups yet?

Do you think his behavior and bridges burnt are ever a detriment to the girl's recruiting process?

Of course DK and his daughter at Elevate are a detriment to the process. Look at how few girls are getting recruited there. Go back a couple of years and look at the numbers and now look at the numbers. College coaches don't want to deal with them and their antics. The proof is in the numbers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC cry babies- got it handed to them yesterday. The score was only that close because they got some extra man up. They are over rated..our jersey talent just exposed the frauds they truly are.

I am a NJ parent of a player who played in the tournament, and this comment is embarrassing. Yes, NJ teams had a great year this year at Gains for Brains and went 4-0, including an impressive Moorestown win over Garden City. But last year NJ teams went 1-3 (Summit only team to win last year and 3 years in a row) so in any given year LI, CT, or NJ teams may do better or worse. Have some class and be happy Moorestown won vs. a strong GC team and be quiet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC cry babies- got it handed to them yesterday. The score was only that close because they got some extra man up. They are over rated..our jersey talent just exposed the frauds they truly are.

Why are they cry babies, adult who is calling high school girls cry babies??? You are a winner!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very tough day for Long Island lacrosse today at Gains for Brains. All 4 NJ teams won handily - Ridgewood, Moorestown who beat Garden City, Bridgewater, and Summit. Darien also won. Top NJ teams listed above very strong this year. Summit has won all of their games three years in a row at this tournament against LI teams, and they also beat Smithtown West this year (not at this tournament).

Great job Mattituck & ESM! Way to represent East end Long Island!

"I am a NJ parent of a player who played in the tournament, and this comment is embarrassing. Yes, NJ teams had a great year this year at Gains for Brains and went 4-0, including an impressive Moorestown win over Garden City. But last year NJ teams went 1-3 (Summit only team to win last year and 3 years in a row) so in any given year LI, CT, or NJ teams may do better or worse. Have some class and be happy Moorestown won vs. a strong GC team and be quiet."

Now that is a classy, fact based comment!

GC is the first to admit the Moorestown team was the better team on Saturday and deserved the win. No winning. Where does the "fraud" comment even come from? How is GC's record this year fraudulent?

Wish all the commentors on this site would stick to this parent's playbook.

Going out on a limb to say in no way is the "Cry baby" poster from NJ. He/she is a jealous LI parent whose daughter's team was beaten by GC and now sees an opening to comment negatively, such a pity.

It's a shame a few kids make bad decision on my daughters
Team and puts our team in jeopardy of losing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a shame a few kids make bad decision on my daughters
Team and puts our team in jeopardy of losing

I love it when sideline heroes, aka parents, refer to their kid's team as 'our team'. Vicarious living much?

Well the cover up did not work

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a shame a few kids make bad decision on my daughters
Team and puts our team in jeopardy of losing

Bad decisions on the field or off? What team?

Anyone know how the School Girl tryouts is run? How many teams they make or girls they take? Are the teams grade based?

NORTHPORT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how the School Girl tryouts is run? How many teams they make or girls they take? Are the teams grade based?

When are the tryouts?

?????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

?????

Excellent use of the quoting feature here. Perhaps everyone should stop using it so that every single post can be construed to be a comment on any other post that preceded it.

on LI - 3 teams approx 60 - 70 girls, talent based. skills in am., 1st cut after lunch. scrimmages in afternoon email sent Mon or Tues about team selection

Originally Posted by Anonymous

?????

Excellent use of the quoting feature here. Perhaps everyone should stop using it so that every single post can be construed to be a comment on any other post that preceded it.

reading that comment made me dumber

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how the School Girl tryouts is run? How many teams they make or girls they take? Are the teams grade based?

When are the tryouts?

Ask your coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a shame a few kids make bad decision on my daughters
Team and puts our team in jeopardy of losing

Bad decisions on the field or off? What team?

Word in this very small Lax community is that girls were allegedly caught shoplifting at Universal Studios $600 worth of merchandise ....Suspensions being handed down to starters on the girls Varsity team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Excellent use of the quoting feature here. Perhaps everyone should stop using it so that every single post can be construed to be a comment on any other post that preceded it.

reading that comment made me dumber

that could also be the result of reading just about any other post on this board

Originally Posted by Anonymous

?????

Excellent use of the quoting feature here. Perhaps everyone should stop using it so that every single post can be construed to be a comment on any other post that preceded it.

reading that comment made me dumber

as if that were possible

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a shame a few kids make bad decision on my daughters
Team and puts our team in jeopardy of losing

Bad decisions on the field or off? What team?

Word in this very small Lax community is that girls were allegedly caught shoplifting at Universal Studios $600 worth of merchandise ....Suspensions being handed down to starters on the girls Varsity team.

Who is the coach of Northport? He or she should be the one suspended. Way to teach values!! Unfortunately you can't suspend the parents!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the coach of Northport? He or she should be the one suspended. Way to teach values!! Unfortunately you can't suspend the parents!

I am the opposite of a fan of Carol Rose but even I don't see how you can blame her for what her some girls did.

BBP had girls shoplift at Great Adventure on a school trip years ago and did not suspend them because it was playoffs and parents went in blah blah blah. It was completely mishandled IMNSHO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a shame a few kids make bad decision on my daughters
Team and puts our team in jeopardy of losing

Bad decisions on the field or off? What team?

Word in this very small Lax community is that girls were allegedly caught shoplifting at Universal Studios $600 worth of merchandise
....Suspensions being handed down to starters on the girls Varsity team.

Who is the coach of Northport? He or she should be the one suspended. Way to teach values!! Unfortunately you can't suspend the parents!

That's just idiotic. How do you blame the coach because a few kids decided to be idiots. If that were the case no coach would make it thru a season.

I guess the North babylon parents now know how the Port Jeff parents felt when a team runs the score up on them. Doesn't feel good.

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

I'm sure wm is hoping that they are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Agreed. Teach them a life lesson.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Funny...I don't see this posted on her twitter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Really? Destroy these girls lives for some petty shoplifting? Wow, thanks Judge Dredd.

It's stealing idiot. They destroyed it themselves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Really? Destroy these girls lives for some petty shoplifting? Wow, thanks Judge Dredd.

Save the drama fo yo mama--- lives destroyed??? Really? You are just the type that facilitates kids into being entitled weaklings. Everything's just fine with anything they do. Take that weak shiiiiit elsewhere.

My kid does something like that she's off her team(s) BY ME-- regardless of what the coach thinks/does.

So they should g Chaminade route and hide it?

Destroy lives??? They're doing that. I agree. My kid would be off the team. School and home. That's it!!

you have to be nominated by your HS coach or Club Coach, you cant just come down and show up to try out

anything from school AD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you have to be nominated by your HS coach or Club Coach, you cant just come down and show up to try out

or you can have your dad go above your coaches head and make numerous calls until you get one

The one who is so quick to judge everyone else has a closet full of skeletons... Especially the one spewing judgement on an anonymous website.

They stole from Universal Studios, well Universal Studios has been stealing from us with the cost that they charge just to get into the park. The cost they charge for food and drinks is a crime in itself. They shouldn't have stole anything but not like they stole from a company who is stealing from the people anyway. I am not from Northport either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They stole from Universal Studios, well Universal Studios has been stealing from us with the cost that they charge just to get into the park. The cost they charge for food and drinks is a crime in itself. They shouldn't have stole anything but not like they stole from a company who is stealing from the people anyway. I am not from Northport either

DING DING DING DING, Tell him what he's won Bob. He's won the dopiest comment of the thread. I wish this were troll bait but I sadly don't believe it is.

Perhaps the team can go start rolling crack dealers next and we can justify that saying, well, the guys they robbed were MS13, so it's all good.

Idiot. She stole period. Don't go to universal if you think they are
stealing from you. Wait till her college hears about it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They stole from Universal Studios, well Universal Studios has been stealing from us with the cost that they charge just to get into the park. The cost they charge for food and drinks is a crime in itself. They shouldn't have stole anything but not like they stole from a company who is stealing from the people anyway. I am not from Northport either

And this is why our society is ruined.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

WOW. This stuff comes full circle. 6-7 years ago BOTC was lit up about the Top Gun girls caught shop lifting at National Draw ( before that tournament hit the skids). Back then many piled on about other shoplifting incidents inluding YJ and almost all the other clubs from many states through the years. My ears are ringing as it all sounds so familiar. Now it is school based, but obviously this stuff happens unfortunately across a broad spectrum. I said this many years ago, being involved in the vendor city aspect of lacrosse, shoplifting is an extreme problem at many of these lacrosse tournaments and other sport venues. But this was not at a tournament. Here is some advice to any would be shoplifters....Universal studios deals with shoplifters every second of every day, they have a staff looking and waiting for you, watching and videotaping your every move. Is it really a wise target? Getting caught should not be the deciding factor of doing something stupid, kids today have to learn to do the right thing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Funny...I don't see this posted on her twitter.

Good one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you have to be nominated by your HS coach or Club Coach, you cant just come down and show up to try out

or you can have your dad go above your coaches head and make numerous calls until you get one

OK, you've got my curiosity up. Do tell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Funny...I don't see this posted on her twitter.

Good one.

LOL....New early committment to the State of Florida Correctional Facility

that too

that made laugh

Who has the better top 15-20 teams? Nassau or Suffolk?

Suffolk has won more lic titles

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has the better top 15-20 teams? Nassau or Suffolk?

NJ

Sounds like you would fit in well there though...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They stole from Universal Studios, well Universal Studios has been stealing from us with the cost that they charge just to get into the park. The cost they charge for food and drinks is a crime in itself. They shouldn't have stole anything but not like they stole from a company who is stealing from the people anyway. I am not from Northport either

Dumbest human known to man. Please tell me that you are not raising children.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They stole from Universal Studios, well Universal Studios has been stealing from us with the cost that they charge just to get into the park. The cost they charge for food and drinks is a crime in itself. They shouldn't have stole anything but not like they stole from a company who is stealing from the people anyway. I am not from Northport either

Dumbest human known to man. Please tell me that you are not raising children.

There is zero chance that this is a real post . I get the fact that these kids should be punished , I don't think they should be thrown off the team but I could see them not seeing the field again this year .

Div 1 Suffolk playoff picture if it started today.....

1-Ward Melville
2-Northport
3-Middle Country
4-Smithtown West
5-Smithtown East
6-Sachem North
7-H H Hills
8-Riverhead
9-West Islip
10-Commack HS
11-Huntington

OUTSIDE LOOKING IN....

12-Sachem East

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

WOW. This stuff comes full circle. 6-7 years ago BOTC was lit up about the Top Gun girls caught shop lifting at National Draw ( before that tournament hit the skids). Back then many piled on about other shoplifting incidents inluding YJ and almost all the other clubs from many states through the years. My ears are ringing as it all sounds so familiar. Now it is school based, but obviously this stuff happens unfortunately across a broad spectrum. I said this many years ago, being involved in the vendor city aspect of lacrosse, shoplifting is an extreme problem at many of these lacrosse tournaments and other sport venues. But this was not at a tournament. Here is some advice to any would be shoplifters....Universal studios deals with shoplifters every second of every day, they have a staff looking and waiting for you, watching and videotaping your every move. Is it really a wise target? Getting caught should not be the deciding factor of doing something stupid, kids today have to learn to do the right thing!

One's character is defined by what one does when they think no one is watching....

They are teenage girls. They did something foolish. BOTC posters who were angels as teens, or are you really just hypocrites? No HS drinking for you? Fake ID perhaps? Lets discuss your adult behavior, ever get behind the wheel a little "buzzed" hey let's get real personal moral crusaders, anyone on here straying on the spouse? Please spare me your nonsense, we were all there, we all did dumb things, stop it and remember your youth, or is everyone on here the perfect person. What a bunch of pompous asses. Thank God I'm not your little robot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are teenage girls. They did something foolish. BOTC posters who were angels as teens, or are you really just hypocrites? No HS drinking for you? Fake ID perhaps? Lets discuss your adult behavior, ever get behind the wheel a little "buzzed" hey let's get real personal moral crusaders, anyone on here straying on the spouse? Please spare me your nonsense, we were all there, we all did dumb things, stop it and remember your youth, or is everyone on here the perfect person. What a bunch of pompous asses. Thank God I'm not your little robot.

Sorry, but I think shoplifting is a bit more character defining than drinking a beer at a keg party in the woods. I definitely did my share of manning the tap. However I can honestly say I've never stolen/shoplifted something out of a store. Apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are teenage girls. They did something foolish. BOTC posters who were angels as teens, or are you really just hypocrites? No HS drinking for you? Fake ID perhaps? Lets discuss your adult behavior, ever get behind the wheel a little "buzzed" hey let's get real personal moral crusaders, anyone on here straying on the spouse? Please spare me your nonsense, we were all there, we all did dumb things, stop it and remember your youth, or is everyone on here the perfect person. What a bunch of pompous asses. Thank God I'm not your little robot.

Sorry, but I think shoplifting is a bit more character defining than drinking a beer at a keg party in the woods. I definitely did my share of manning the tap. However I can honestly say I've never stolen/shoplifted something out of a store. Apples to oranges.

Okay, ever had a few then gotten behind the wheel? EVER?

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are teenage girls. They did something foolish. BOTC posters who were angels as teens, or are you really just hypocrites? No HS drinking for you? Fake ID perhaps? Lets discuss your adult behavior, ever get behind the wheel a little "buzzed" hey let's get real personal moral crusaders, anyone on here straying on the spouse? Please spare me your nonsense, we were all there, we all did dumb things, stop it and remember your youth, or is everyone on here the perfect person. What a bunch of pompous asses. Thank God I'm not your little robot.

Sorry, but I think shoplifting is a bit more character defining than drinking a beer at a keg party in the woods. I definitely did my share of manning the tap. However I can honestly say I've never stolen/shoplifted something out of a store. Apples to oranges.

Totally agree. Stealing is a pre mediated, deliberate crime and not at all equivalent to partying for lack of a better term. And in case your parents never told you, 2 wrongs don't make a right.. don't enable these kids by acting like it's not that bad. It is that bad..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are teenage girls. They did something foolish. BOTC posters who were angels as teens, or are you really just hypocrites? No HS drinking for you? Fake ID perhaps? Lets discuss your adult behavior, ever get behind the wheel a little "buzzed" hey let's get real personal moral crusaders, anyone on here straying on the spouse? Please spare me your nonsense, we were all there, we all did dumb things, stop it and remember your youth, or is everyone on here the perfect person. What a bunch of pompous asses. Thank God I'm not your little robot.

Sorry, but I think shoplifting is a bit more character defining than drinking a beer at a keg party in the woods. I definitely did my share of manning the tap. However I can honestly say I've never stolen/shoplifted something out of a store. Apples to oranges.

Totally agree. Stealing is a pre mediated, deliberate crime and not at all equivalent to partying for lack of a better term. And in case your parents never told you, 2 wrongs don't make a right.. don't enable these kids by acting like it's not that bad. It is that bad..

No Father it is not, getting behind the wheel is also pre meditated. You ever do that? Could have killed someone, well ever? EVER? Convenient outrage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Hmmm, the moral crusaders have no comment on drinking and driving, sure is easy to say I only drank beers as a kid, not so easy to say I frequently get behind the wheel after three or four cocktails. Hypocrites.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm, the moral crusaders have no comment on drinking and driving, sure is easy to say I only drank beers as a kid, not so easy to say I frequently get behind the wheel after three or four cocktails. Hypocrites.

The 10 Commandments say "Thou shalt not steal". Don't see any mention of drinking and driving. Does that validate the moral crusaders' arguments?

Is the store taking action against these girls?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Not sure you get what I'm saying, kicking these girls off the team is a huge hit. I said I don't agree with that. Never said no punishment, community service, or something. But keep YOUNG GIRLS involved in sports. I did stupid stuff as well as a kid. Also as an adult, thankfully I didn't get caught. Again, no one will comment as to drinking and driving. I say again, you are hypocrites.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

CR NEVER COVERED UP ANY OF THIS STOP THE BS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm, the moral crusaders have no comment on drinking and driving, sure is easy to say I only drank beers as a kid, not so easy to say I frequently get behind the wheel after three or four cocktails. Hypocrites.

Coverup? its nobodies business...worry about your own kids.

You NP people need a reality check. If this wasn't a popular lax kid who committed to a big time school you would be flipping out. Let's say it was a kid going to community college and was not popular or who couldn't afford to go to Florida, would you be this understanding. Doubt it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They stole from Universal Studios, well Universal Studios has been stealing from us with the cost that they charge just to get into the park. The cost they charge for food and drinks is a crime in itself. They shouldn't have stole anything but not like they stole from a company who is stealing from the people anyway. I am not from Northport either

Wow - someone from Universal Studios holds a gun to your head and forces you to go there??! Their prices aren't unknown - patrons go there of their own volition with eyes wide open. You don't like their prices - don't go! That's the lamest justification I've ever heard!

Exactly, the only poster who has the balls to even bring up DWI uses the Ten Commandments as a moral base. Pretty sure it was a joke, but all of you who posted are full of $hit. Losers, no problem sucking back six martinis with the wife at dinner and then driving home, that's okay, but a group of teenage girls shoplift and the hangman's noose comes out. Pathetic clowns.

You assume this dbag drinks martini's....I was thinking Scmitts and not at dinner

OK why were the parents not informed about what happened until after the girls were benched for a game. How come the school was not notified right away? This is the definition of covering up. Suspensions were only handed out after the school found out which was NOT right away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

CR NEVER COVERED UP ANY OF THIS STOP THE BS

YES HE DID!

Where are the moral crusaders?? C'mon, let's hear it? Slam a bunch of teenage girls but whitewashing you own discretions? DWI is a crime, far worse than shoplifting. Waiting to hear from you LOSERS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the moral crusaders?? C'mon, let's hear it? Slam a bunch of teenage girls but whitewashing you own discretions? DWI is a crime, far worse than shoplifting. Waiting to hear from you LOSERS?

I fail to see how trying to make two wrongs equal a right makes US losers. Wrong is wrong. Driving drunk is wrong. Shoplifting is wrong. Stop trying to whitewash what the girls did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the moral crusaders?? C'mon, let's hear it? Slam a bunch of teenage girls but whitewashing you own discretions? DWI is a crime, far worse than shoplifting. Waiting to hear from you LOSERS?

I fail to see how trying to make two wrongs equal a right makes US losers. Wrong is wrong. Driving drunk is wrong. Shoplifting is wrong. Stop trying to whitewash what the girls did.

Still haven't read what I originally posted, I said they were wrong, let the punishment fit the crime. Community service or even a suspension seems appropriate. Kicking them off the team seems extreme, waiting for you moral superstars to STOP driving NOW since you have previously driven a car while intoxicated. Seems fair to me, you drove drunk, were never caught, but hey, we are morally superior people, so put the car away for six months, just like if you were caught. DWI is worse than shoplifting. Pu$$ies. Teenage girls are okay to be shamed, not you martini sipping [lacrosse] bags.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly, the only poster who has the balls to even bring up DWI uses the Ten Commandments as a moral base. Pretty sure it was a joke, but all of you who posted are full of $hit. Losers, no problem sucking back six martinis with the wife at dinner and then driving home, that's okay, but a group of teenage girls shoplift and the hangman's noose comes out. Pathetic clowns.

Yeah just keep enabling your daughter with that attitude.

And hey worse comes to worse they get three squares a day up at Sing Sing right??

Because these guys drink and drive.. right?? Lets keep perspective..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the moral crusaders?? C'mon, let's hear it? Slam a bunch of teenage girls but whitewashing you own discretions? DWI is a crime, far worse than shoplifting. Waiting to hear from you LOSERS?

I fail to see how trying to make two wrongs equal a right makes US losers. Wrong is wrong. Driving drunk is wrong. Shoplifting is wrong. Stop trying to whitewash what the girls did.

The CR supporters are just trying to keep the focus off of her and how she handled the situation. Yes two wrongs don't make a right. The girls made a huge mistake (wrong #1) and then there was an attempt to hide it - from the rest of the team, the parents and the school (wrong#2).

Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

I know they're not mandatory for varsity lacrosse
Are helmets mandatory for girls in middle school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know they're not mandatory for varsity lacrosse
Are helmets mandatory for girls in middle school

Next year allegedly

Looks like Northport couldn't "steal" a victory today. Maybe they were "robbed" by the refs? That would have been "criminal".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

Didn't look to fine today. Add Northport to the list of teams underestimating Ward Melville this year

Hopefully they can steal a win today over WM. If the refs don't rob them of any calls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

If this were Chaminade or SA kids they would be getting crushed be everyone in sight, the fact that some of you find this ok or a minor indiscretion is very surprising. Clearly none of the kids involved want for anything in life, it's just more of what's wrong with us as a society - nobody is ever held accountable for their behavior and the are all very aware of that fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

Didn't look to fine today. Add Northport to the list of teams underestimating Ward Melville this year

Rose can't cover this one up

Wm would've never won if np had their starters. It's ok. See ya in the playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wm would've never won if np had their starters. It's ok. See ya in the playoffs

And so it begins. I saw plenty of northport starters on that field today and they couldn't get it done. EC and DP couldn't buy a goal today. Oh wait, they don't buy, they steal!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wm would've never won if np had their starters. It's ok. See ya in the playoffs

why didn't you have your starters?

How many starters were you missing. Have a short bench?

Refs called a fair game for both teams I feel, but of course Northport was probably robbed anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

Isn't CR from the YJ? Why would she try and cover this up and ruin her reputation? The kids got caught stealing. More then a certain $$ amount is a felony. They need to learn a lesson. What should that lesson be? If you were caught drinking and driving you would surely get arrested. So you are saying these girls should get arrested? Your photo would also be in the papers and possibly the Newspaper. I think you should stop the comparison of did you ever drink and drive. The fact is these kids GOT caught! A crime is a crime and you can't sweep it away as easy if you get caught. Sorry CR!

Not a fan of wm but despise np so congrats!! Nice to see karma
Work it's magic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wm would've never won if np had their starters. It's ok. See ya in the playoffs

And so it begins. I saw plenty of northport starters on that field today and they couldn't get it done. EC and DP couldn't buy a goal today. Oh wait, they don't buy, they steal!!!!

What a classless Ward Melville parent. Doesn't shock me there, always seems like crybabies at games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

Didn't look to fine today. Add Northport to the list of teams underestimating Ward Melville this year

Rose can't cover this one up

It all started when CR stole his look from Dusty Rhodes way back when

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their are multiple problems with this situation. The first is that is that it was a group of kids stealing. It was not a small amount -it wasn't a candy bar. It was a lot! The second big issue is that this was attempted to be covered up by CR. She did not notify the parents and she did not notify the school. She "attempted" to deal with this internally. This to me is the bigger issue at hand - kids will make stupid decisions. However, adults - especially a teacher and a coach are expected to make smarter decisions. To try and cover this up is just unconscionable.

Well, wow. I didn't realize CR acted to cover this up. That takes it to a whole different level and I retract my earlier statement about not blaming CR.

And to the poster who thinks that just because we adults may have done stupid things as kids it's okay for our kids to do stupid things, WHAT??? Is that the moral code you are imparting to your kids? I did stupid stuff and I for sure am trying to make sure my kids don't repeat my mistakes. Don't lower the bar, raise it!

CR NEVER COVERED UP ANY OF THIS STOP THE BS

YES HE DID!

This made me laugh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

Isn't CR from the YJ? Why would she try and cover this up and ruin her reputation? The kids got caught stealing. More then a certain $$ amount is a felony. They need to learn a lesson. What should that lesson be? If you were caught drinking and driving you would surely get arrested. So you are saying these girls should get arrested? Your photo would also be in the papers and possibly the Newspaper. I think you should stop the comparison of did you ever drink and drive. The fact is these kids GOT caught! A crime is a crime and you can't sweep it away as easy if you get caught. Sorry CR!

Also now a part of the women's pro league. Bad timing for bad press.

If you're going to cast stones and gossip, you obviously don't know that slander is as equal a sin as shoplifting and drinking and driving. It may make you feel good to put others down but in reality... you're exactly the same! Not exactly... these are kids are still learning form their mistakes. We all know your character has been shaped already because we see your slanderous posts day after day. Maybe you should be suspended from this site! GO AWAY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wm would've never won if np had their starters. It's ok. See ya in the playoffs

And so it begins. I saw plenty of northport starters on that field today and they couldn't get it done. EC and DP couldn't buy a goal today. Oh wait, they don't buy, they steal!!!!

What a classless Ward Melville parent. Doesn't shock me there, always seems like crybabies at games.

Classless WM? Dont get it, I think that is a witty comeback from the OP.

I've seen Suffolk/Nassau girls the past 6 years they are all crybabies when they don't get their way and now NP has an issue which is indefenseable and people are defending it. Are they trying to gloss it over make comparisons or contain the communication of an issue involving a minor. the punishment must fit the crime and there is a difference between cover up and containing the situation... which is it. if CR did try to cover it up then she needs to be fired as a teacher and coach. If contain then I commend her.

There is no gray to this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could not agree more. They do not belong playing public schools. I personally care because you child goes to public school where the talent is what it is you make the best of it when you have a school like CBA you have your pick of stud athletes and you put them on one team it's like Saint Anthony's. They should not be playing in a public school competition

Based on all sports, I don't think any "stud" athletes go to friends. Who cares!

Exactly. Nobody complains about Friends Academy playing in a weak public school division because they don't have strong players and have very weak coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the moral crusaders?? C'mon, let's hear it? Slam a bunch of teenage girls but whitewashing you own discretions? DWI is a crime, far worse than shoplifting. Waiting to hear from you LOSERS?

I fail to see how trying to make two wrongs equal a right makes US losers. Wrong is wrong. Driving drunk is wrong. Shoplifting is wrong. Stop trying to whitewash what the girls did.

Still haven't read what I originally posted, I said they were wrong, let the punishment fit the crime. Community service or even a suspension seems appropriate. Kicking them off the team seems extreme, waiting for you moral superstars to STOP driving NOW since you have previously driven a car while intoxicated. Seems fair to me, you drove drunk, were never caught, but hey, we are morally superior people, so put the car away for six months, just like if you were caught. DWI is worse than shoplifting. Pu$$ies. Teenage girls are okay to be shamed, not you martini sipping [lacrosse] bags.

You're a moron.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has a big game coming up vs Ward Melville, no way those girls are being suspended for that game.

We will be fine without them.

So these kids get caught stealing, It is either a misdemeanor or felony but yet they are going to still be on the team? Yes then i do blame Carol Rose if she allows this type of behavior. She is the coach and ultimately those are her players representing her and the school. All involved should be kicked off the team. I mean really just a suspension?

WOW. This stuff comes full circle. 6-7 years ago BOTC was lit up about the Top Gun girls caught shop lifting at National Draw ( before that tournament hit the skids). Back then many piled on about other shoplifting incidents inluding YJ and almost all the other clubs from many states through the years. My ears are ringing as it all sounds so familiar. Now it is school based, but obviously this stuff happens unfortunately across a broad spectrum. I said this many years ago, being involved in the vendor city aspect of lacrosse, shoplifting is an extreme problem at many of these lacrosse tournaments and other sport venues. But this was not at a tournament. Here is some advice to any would be shoplifters....Universal studios deals with shoplifters every second of every day, they have a staff looking and waiting for you, watching and videotaping your every move. Is it really a wise target? Getting caught should not be the deciding factor of doing something stupid, kids today have to learn to do the right thing!

And 2 years ago an Elevate 2018 girl committed a blatant anti-semetic act - while the school did suspend her, Elevate and DK just turned a blind eye. My daughter played on that team and we were so appalled we never went back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

Moron.

Most parents of teams are crybabies in the towns that have good teams. They whine over ever little thing when a team fouls them, they want the call, but when there team fouls its let the kids play. I hate seeing our parents like that, it annoys me. Most of the parents out there try to live through there children because they weren't good enough to do this themselves. When you play a weaker team, you don't really here much from parents on the sidelines with there little crybaby ways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wm would've never won if np had their starters. It's ok. See ya in the playoffs

And so it begins. I saw plenty of northport starters on that field today and they couldn't get it done. EC and DP couldn't buy a goal today. Oh wait, they don't buy, they steal!!!!

What a classless Ward Melville parent. Doesn't shock me there, always seems like crybabies at games.

Classless WM? Dont get it, I think that is a witty comeback from the OP.

I've seen Suffolk/Nassau girls the past 6 years they are all crybabies when they don't get their way and now NP has an issue which is indefenseable and people are defending it. Are they trying to gloss it over make comparisons or contain the communication of an issue involving a minor. the punishment must fit the crime and there is a difference between cover up and containing the situation... which is it. if CR did try to cover it up then she needs to be fired as a teacher and coach. If contain then I commend her.

There is no gray to this

There was no "containing" this. This was a cover up. If it was to be contained then the parents of the girls would have been notified right away. There would have been a team meeting to let everyone know what happened and what the punishment was going to be. This did NOT happen. This was a cover up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

Moron.

Takes a real man to bash teenage girls. Probably couldn't get a date in HS, found some hag to marry you, now you bully teen girls for revenge. Loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

Isn't CR from the YJ? Why would she try and cover this up and ruin her reputation? The kids got caught stealing. More then a certain $$ amount is a felony. They need to learn a lesson. What should that lesson be? If you were caught drinking and driving you would surely get arrested. So you are saying these girls should get arrested? Your photo would also be in the papers and possibly the Newspaper. I think you should stop the comparison of did you ever drink and drive. The fact is these kids GOT caught! A crime is a crime and you can't sweep it away as easy if you get caught. Sorry CR!

So these teens committed a felony? You know this? Again a group of middle aged men casting stones at teen girls, this is just sad. If you are going to take the moral high ground then hold yourself to these standards, otherwise, take your beer belly and receding hairline and put the [lacrosse] tail down and stop driving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Once again, a group of you state the girls did this heinous crime (shoplifting) and the appropriate penalty is expulsion from the team. That these girls should not be forgive, fine, I say if you have that much moral courage, then stop driving, because I know you have done it. We all have. Has your child ever seen you have a few drinks then get behind the wheel? EVER? Is that the "attitude" you are teaching her? When will she kill someone or herself behind the wheel intoxicated? Again, you are pompous a$$ holes. Glass houses

Isn't CR from the YJ? Why would she try and cover this up and ruin her reputation? The kids got caught stealing. More then a certain $$ amount is a felony. They need to learn a lesson. What should that lesson be? If you were caught drinking and driving you would surely get arrested. So you are saying these girls should get arrested? Your photo would also be in the papers and possibly the Newspaper. I think you should stop the comparison of did you ever drink and drive. The fact is these kids GOT caught! A crime is a crime and you can't sweep it away as easy if you get caught. Sorry CR!

So these teens committed a felony? You know this? Again a group of middle aged men casting stones at teen girls, this is just sad. If you are going to take the moral high ground then hold yourself to these standards, otherwise, take your beer belly and receding hairline and put the [lacrosse] tail down and stop driving.

They committed a crime and should be held accountable for their actions.

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't drink and drive.
3. I do hold my children to a high standard, as I believe we all should.
4. My kids are not in the same division as Northport so that argument is irrelevant.
5. You look like the biggest loser for trying to justify what they did.

What do you think the consequences should be?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

Get over it?? Thats the problem with parents today. There is much more to life than girls lacrosse. How about morals, class or just plain doing the right thing. 15-17 year olds know btwn right and wrong and if they don't, their parents did a horrible job raising them. BTW 16 & 17 yr olds are not juveniles!

The relentlessness of which you insist on broadcasting what an *ss you are is almost as astonishing as the depth of your idiocy. Keep up the good work, the lifeless horse you are beating is really resonating. Hence why you have to continually repost your inane drivel.

What happen to WI this year ????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

Get over it?? Thats the problem with parents today. There is much more to life than girls lacrosse. How about morals, class or just plain doing the right thing. 15-17 year olds know btwn right and wrong and if they don't, their parents did a horrible job raising them. BTW 16 & 17 yr olds are not juveniles!

Yes in the eyes of the law they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The relentlessness of which you insist on broadcasting what an *ss you are is almost as astonishing as the depth of your idiocy. Keep up the good work, the lifeless horse you are beating is really resonating. Hence why you have to continually repost your inane drivel.

To what and whom are you replying?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't drink and drive.
3. I do hold my children to a high standard, as I believe we all should.
4. My kids are not in the same division as Northport so that argument is irrelevant.
5. You look like the biggest loser for trying to justify what they did.

What do you think the consequences should be?

Okay, then I suppose you are an exception, but most of the posters on here are middle aged men. Most adults drink and drive, but think it is okay, because well they think they are fine. I also hold my daughter to high standards, BUT I will not impact a young woman's life by kicking her off the team. I have said earlier, community service or suspension, but in an age when teen suicide and drug use (heroin) is on the rise, I will not take something away from her that she loves. I will not subject her to that kind of embarrassment among her peers. Do any of you monitor your child's social media? Do you see how mean and cruel these girls can get? You of all posters should understand the complexities and difficulties of being a teen girl. I am really surprised a mother would advocate for her daughter to be kicked off the team for this. Again, most of the posters have daughter's on teams that play against NP, that is the ONLY reason for the moral outrage, it has nothing to do with the well being of the girls.

They graduated everyone from last years team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wm would've never won if np had their starters. It's ok. See ya in the playoffs

And so it begins. I saw plenty of northport starters on that field today and they couldn't get it done. EC and DP couldn't buy a goal today. Oh wait, they don't buy, they steal!!!!

What a classless Ward Melville parent. Doesn't shock me there, always seems like crybabies at games.

First comment actually reads from a NP parent who is fed up with all the nonsense that goes with the team. Perhaps parents just tired of same girls playing all the time, loud obnoxious parents with daughters who came up empty. Try mixing it up on the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

Get over it?? Thats the problem with parents today. There is much more to life than girls lacrosse. How about morals, class or just plain doing the right thing. 15-17 year olds know btwn right and wrong and if they don't, their parents did a horrible job raising them. BTW 16 & 17 yr olds are not juveniles!

Yes in the eyes of the law they are.

It depends on the crime and the discretion of the prosecutor . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to WI this year ????

Don't count them out......great coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't drink and drive.
3. I do hold my children to a high standard, as I believe we all should.
4. My kids are not in the same division as Northport so that argument is irrelevant.
5. You look like the biggest loser for trying to justify what they did.

What do you think the consequences should be?

I just saw the loser comment, at what point did I ever justify this behavior? Show me? I said kicking them off the team was an inappropriate penalty, but since you're such a b*tch, screw you MOM, you loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to WI this year ????

Don't count them out......great coaching

Stop - this just isn't going to be a good year for them, most coaches are only as good as the players they have and this is a case in point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to WI this year ????

Don't count them out......great coaching

Stop - this just isn't going to be a good year for them, most coaches are only as good as the players they have and this is a case in point

west islip has some very good young talent. the next two years will be big for them.

He is a good coach agreed. He should have pulled up some better sophomores from JV, instead of friends, neighbors and anybody he felt obligation to whose parents made him food etc. Its hard to coach where you live; but if you do you need to not keep wasted sideline of girls with little lax skills.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't drink and drive.
3. I do hold my children to a high standard, as I believe we all should.
4. My kids are not in the same division as Northport so that argument is irrelevant.
5. You look like the biggest loser for trying to justify what they did.

What do you think the consequences should be?

Okay, then I suppose you are an exception, but most of the posters on here are middle aged men. Most adults drink and drive, but think it is okay, because well they think they are fine. I also hold my daughter to high standards, BUT I will not impact a young woman's life by kicking her off the team. I have said earlier, community service or suspension, but in an age when teen suicide and drug use (heroin) is on the rise, I will not take something away from her that she loves. I will not subject her to that kind of embarrassment among her peers. Do any of you monitor your child's social media? Do you see how mean and cruel these girls can get? You of all posters should understand the complexities and difficulties of being a teen girl. I am really surprised a mother would advocate for her daughter to be kicked off the team for this. Again, most of the posters have daughter's on teams that play against NP, that is the ONLY reason for the moral outrage, it has nothing to do with the well being of the girls.

So I am a middle aged man that does not drink, I have been married to the same woman faithfully for 20 years, and have made several mistakes far worse than the ones commited by these girls, and my daughter is allready in college. They should recieve a suspention from school seeing as the crime was commited at a school function, they should be suspended from playing for the rest of the year for embarrising themselves, the school, there parents, the town, and most importantly there team. They should be made to attend the games in team gear, but not in uniform, to support the team mates they have let down. $600.00 is a lot of money and wasn't a couple of candy bars, so they need to held accountable in a very public and severe manor. But C.R. does not have i any ntegrity, and is far more concerned with her reputation so they will probably be playing in the next game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to WI this year ????

Don't count them out......great coaching

Stop - this just isn't going to be a good year for them, most coaches are only as good as the players they have and this is a case in point

Thanks mom, guess it's not your daughter's fault. 2 problems with your statement. 1) we were told WI would be fine due to great coaching. 2) last year it was the coach, not the players. So which is it?

Who made him food??? That's the dumbest thing I've read yet. Stop being a whiner. Maybe your kids just not as good as you think

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach agreed. He should have pulled up some better sophomores from JV, instead of friends, neighbors and anybody he felt obligation to whose parents made him food etc. Its hard to coach where you live; but if you do you need to not keep wasted sideline of girls with little lax skills.

Call the coach or knock on his door he will be happy to tell you why your daughter is not on Varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach agreed. He should have pulled up some better sophomores from JV, instead of friends, neighbors and anybody he felt obligation to whose parents made him food etc. Its hard to coach where you live; but if you do you need to not keep wasted sideline of girls with little lax skills.

Call the coach or knock on his door he will be happy to tell you why your daughter is not on Varsity.

Lol can I come???

I'm still curious who's parents made him food. What does that even mean. If I make him a steak my kid will play?? Are you totally out of your mind

Some facts- at no time were the girls (any of them) in Florida told to keep it a secret from parents. I knew from my daughter right away (and no, mine was not involved but she was angry at the ones who were). The school investigated it, handed out suspensions (and looking at the lax schedule was NOT a factor). Some parents of the kids involved have held their daughters accountable, additional punishment, etc. I wish that part had been more consistent however it's not my call or anyone else's. Whomever listed the initials of a few starters who played against WM implying they were involved is a nasty jerk (also not my kid). They were not a part of the kids that were suspended. Get your facts straight or better yet don't put any kids initials in at all and just shut up. It is an awful thing. I personally am disgusted by it (as is every parent I have spoken to). Simply put- this impacted not only those involved but the whole team, parents, school, etc. It is a lesson to all that personal choices more often than not impact more than just the one person making them. I'd say the only decent take away was reinforcing that lesson to the kids. It is unacceptable and stupid and it's being dealt with. If the nasty gossipy folks feel the need to keep writing about it- leave out initials , etc. It is a small LAX community and that kind of bad information can be damaging to completely innocent kids.

CSH "studs" didn't do much against real competition yesterday. Zero points for the UNC and Duke commits and BC goalie allowed more goals by GC than any other that team has played yet. True colors show against the tough competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't drink and drive.
3. I do hold my children to a high standard, as I believe we all should.
4. My kids are not in the same division as Northport so that argument is irrelevant.
5. You look like the biggest loser for trying to justify what they did.

What do you think the consequences should be?

Okay, then I suppose you are an exception, but most of the posters on here are middle aged men. Most adults drink and drive, but think it is okay, because well they think they are fine. I also hold my daughter to high standards, BUT I will not impact a young woman's life by kicking her off the team. I have said earlier, community service or suspension, but in an age when teen suicide and drug use (heroin) is on the rise, I will not take something away from her that she loves. I will not subject her to that kind of embarrassment among her peers. Do any of you monitor your child's social media? Do you see how mean and cruel these girls can get? You of all posters should understand the complexities and difficulties of being a teen girl. I am really surprised a mother would advocate for her daughter to be kicked off the team for this. Again, most of the posters have daughter's on teams that play against NP, that is the ONLY reason for the moral outrage, it has nothing to do with the well being of the girls.

So I am a middle aged man that does not drink, I have been married to the same woman faithfully for 20 years, and have made several mistakes far worse than the ones commited by these girls, and my daughter is allready in college. They should recieve a suspention from school seeing as the crime was commited at a school function, they should be suspended from playing for the rest of the year for embarrising themselves, the school, there parents, the town, and most importantly there team. They should be made to attend the games in team gear, but not in uniform, to support the team mates they have let down. $600.00 is a lot of money and wasn't a couple of candy bars, so they need to held accountable in a very public and severe manor. But C.R. does not have i any ntegrity, and is far more concerned with her reputation so they will probably be playing in the next game

First off friend, if you are a middle aged man, with no dog in the fight, your knowledge of the incident is odd at best, downright scary at worst. You state you are a middle aged man who wants to see a bunch of teen girls punished severely, even though you suffered no loss, the only ones who can ask for this "severe" punishment is the company that was victimized. So, your odd fetish about punishing teen girls strikes me as something you should study a bit deeper, perhaps with the assistance of a shrink. Standing on the sidelines in uniform not allowed to play, is that your "Scarlet Letter"? What a [lacrosse] you sound like. Second, what was the "severe" punishment you doled out on yourself for your transgressions you committed in your youth? Or were you not caught, therefore making it all okay? Maybe it's time for you to seek forgiveness from those you stole from, but don't throw your guilt at a bunch of girls you don't know. Thirdly, go find your sixth grade teacher and punch her in the mouth, your grammar is pathetic, if your daughter is attending your alma mater, get her out fast, you didn't learn $hit. Lastly, I can at least understand the loser parents who want the girls suspended so they can see their school win, you I just don't get. This looks more like some sour grapes on your end.

He is a good coach, but it's his assistant that keeps that team together. It is their defense that has led that team the past few years and he controls that. Either way there is no BS. They play only the girls that are gonna help them win. That is all they care about is winning. As the saying goes winning cures everything, now that they are experiencing some losing everyone wants to chime in. Reminds me of WM the past few years. Now they are the greatest coaches around. Nobody wins without the players!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach agreed. He should have pulled up some better sophomores from JV, instead of friends, neighbors and anybody he felt obligation to whose parents made him food etc. Its hard to coach where you live; but if you do you need to not keep wasted sideline of girls with little lax skills.

Call the coach or knock on his door he will be happy to tell you why your daughter is not on Varsity.

Lol can I come???

Yes, just bring your lawnmower, his grass needs cutting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach agreed. He should have pulled up some better sophomores from JV, instead of friends, neighbors and anybody he felt obligation to whose parents made him food etc. Its hard to coach where you live; but if you do you need to not keep wasted sideline of girls with little lax skills.

Call the coach or knock on his door he will be happy to tell you why your daughter is not on Varsity.

Lol can I come???

Yes, just bring your lawnmower, his grass needs cutting

well aren't we a stalker

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach, but it's his assistant that keeps that team together. It is their defense that has led that team the past few years and he controls that. Either way there is no BS. They play only the girls that are gonna help them win. That is all they care about is winning. As the saying goes winning cures everything, now that they are experiencing some losing everyone wants to chime in. Reminds me of WM the past few years. Now they are the greatest coaches around. Nobody wins without the players!

Goalie has been defended by a great group last two yrs. they all graduated. It's showing in this season. Offense has scored some major points last few games. Defense will get better once right formula is put in place

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

Get over it?? Thats the problem with parents today. There is much more to life than girls lacrosse. How about morals, class or just plain doing the right thing. 15-17 year olds know btwn right and wrong and if they don't, their parents did a horrible job raising them. BTW 16 & 17 yr olds are not juveniles!

Yes in the eyes of the law they are.

In NY 16 year olds are considered adults.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

Get over it?? Thats the problem with parents today. There is much more to life than girls lacrosse. How about morals, class or just plain doing the right thing. 15-17 year olds know btwn right and wrong and if they don't, their parents did a horrible job raising them. BTW 16 & 17 yr olds are not juveniles!

Yes in the eyes of the law they are.

In NY 16 year olds are considered adults.

I thought this happened in Florida?

Agree, these young people should receive some kind of punishment. not quite sure what it should be; clearly not imprisonment but at the very least suspended from the team. CR also has a responsibility as the coach, teacher, and chaperone to invoke or at least recommend some kind of discipline . We all know CR would never suspend them from the team lax is all everything to her....... What terrible example that is being set

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach, but it's his assistant that keeps that team together. It is their defense that has led that team the past few years and he controls that. Either way there is no BS. They play only the girls that are gonna help them win. That is all they care about is winning. As the saying goes winning cures everything, now that they are experiencing some losing everyone wants to chime in. Reminds me of WM the past few years. Now they are the greatest coaches around. Nobody wins without the players!

Goalie has been defended by a great group last two yrs. they all graduated. It's showing in this season. Offense has scored some major points last few games. Defense will get better once right formula is put in place

You mean coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Actually, there has been very little negative chatter on this site by WM parents regarding the WM coaches. However, there have been a few posts that are very similar to yours. Are you one of the coaches? Why would you even submit this post? Over the past few years there have been a few negative posts directed at some of the players and or parents. Obviously there is someone with an ax to grind, someone who for whatever reason has issues with a particular group of players or parents. I hope you are not one of the coaches.

Parents have not been happy with the WM coach for many years, it is nothing new. Parents were bitching long before any of the current players were even on the team. Yes, they were bitching to each other but there were very few posts on this site. The entire community knows the situation.

We get it, there are some who have issues with some of the parents and or players and they sit around and wait for an opportunity to lash out or stir the pot. "all of a sudden" ? Really, they can do no wrong? Again I ask, are you one of the coaches? No, I doubt it. More than likely you are a jealous, bitter [lacrosse].

Slither back under your rock or go spew venom elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, they sound like a rough bunch, abusing all of those people like that.

You sound like a resentful, small minded person who feels like life is unfair. I hope you do not pass your negative outlook to your daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach, but it's his assistant that keeps that team together. It is their defense that has led that team the past few years and he controls that. Either way there is no BS. They play only the girls that are gonna help them win. That is all they care about is winning. As the saying goes winning cures everything, now that they are experiencing some losing everyone wants to chime in. Reminds me of WM the past few years. Now they are the greatest coaches around. Nobody wins without the players!

Goalie has been defended by a great group last two yrs. they all graduated. It's showing in this season. Offense has scored some major points last few games. Defense will get better once right formula is put in place

You mean coaching?

no pal lol. Maybe try some more clinics and next yr ur princess may play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, these young people should receive some kind of punishment. not quite sure what it should be; clearly not imprisonment but at the very least suspended from the team. CR also has a responsibility as the coach, teacher, and chaperone to invoke or at least recommend some kind of discipline . We all know CR would never suspend them from the team lax is all everything to her....... What terrible example that is being set

They did, read the above posts by NP parent. Suspended, by the coach, guess you're wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a good coach, but it's his assistant that keeps that team together. It is their defense that has led that team the past few years and he controls that. Either way there is no BS. They play only the girls that are gonna help them win. That is all they care about is winning. As the saying goes winning cures everything, now that they are experiencing some losing everyone wants to chime in. Reminds me of WM the past few years. Now they are the greatest coaches around. Nobody wins without the players!

Goalie has been defended by a great group last two yrs. they all graduated. It's showing in this season. Offense has scored some major points last few games. Defense will get better once right formula is put in place

You mean coaching?

no pal lol. Maybe try some more clinics and next yr ur princess may play

Not from WI but tired of hearing you tell us how great this coach is. He has zero talent this year?

There are always excuse makers for the great coaches at Farmingdale, Wantagh, NorthShore Syosset Port Plainedge Macarthur, Massapequa yet unless they have the players they do very little. Just like summer coaches. Roll out the balls and let the girls play best CLUBS do well because the best girls play there the coaches are average at best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

Agreed! Please keep WM off this board. Just enjoy the season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

Agreed! Please keep WM off this board. Just enjoy the season!

Good luck WM. Glad to see you back in the mix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

Agreed! Please keep WM off this board. Just enjoy the season!

Good luck WM. Glad to see you back in the mix.

If I were a wm parent I'd be more concerned about the kid who got an invite to school girls when her coach didn't give one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

It is the Junior class and group of parents that definitely think it is all about them. They throw the coach under the bus every chance they get including today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville did nothing but [lacrosse] and moan about their coaches for the past couple of years. Now that they're on top all of a sudden they can do no wrong. Parents are hilarious. Let the coaches do their job if you don't agree with it take Your kid off the team is very simple

Ward Melville Parents whine about everything. They thing they are special or something. They are classless people who think because they have money they can do or say what they want. Abuse officials, abuse other teams players and parents, Abuse there coaches.

Wow, someone is vert bitter this morning. WM has a very talented junior class and they are starting to get the time on the field that they did not get last year. WM is a very deep team.

It is doubtful that you are a WM parent but if you are then please step away from the computer. The "Team" is talented, it has nothing to do with the a specific grade. Junior and Senior classes happen to have a lot of depth. Most of the girls only play only 50% of the game this season. Last year they "all" played less, two years ago none of the 2018's were on the team, three years ago none of the 2017's were on the team. For whatever the reason, the coach did not bring the players up in the 9th grade and played them sparingly as 10th graders. All of the impact players have been there all along (and there are a lot of them). It is a long season and games are won on the field. We are happy for the team but please do not create a divide by singling out one specific class as the reason for the current success. Let the haters hate and the bitter parents stir the pot but if you are from WM do not contribute to the BS.

It is the Junior class and group of parents that definitely think it is all about them. They throw the coach under the bus every chance they get including today.

Whaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaa . You are a troll. If they throw the coach under the bus every chance they get why have I not seen it on here? Go back under your rock little troll.

Isn't ward melville in suffolk. Last i checked the money is in nassau.Ok they have suffolk county money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Shoplifting Criminal Penalties
Shoplifting property with a total combined value of more than $300 and less than $20,000; or if the item taken is a firearm or certain other items. Third degree grand theft (third degree felony).

So if what the girls stole was > $300, and I believe I read above it was valued at $600, then yes, it was a felony.

They are juveniles, get over it middle aged men! Juveniles are treated differently in the CRJ system, for a reason, so bad choices don't chase them for life. Let's be real here okay hypocrites, if these girls were on a LOSING lacrosse team, that was not beating your daughter's team, none of you would care. Now, if these girls are suspended or better yet kicked off the team, your little princess may have a chance to win something. That is the TRUTH, again, you hold children to a higher standard than yourself, you pathetic losers.

1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't drink and drive.
3. I do hold my children to a high standard, as I believe we all should.
4. My kids are not in the same division as Northport so that argument is irrelevant.
5. You look like the biggest loser for trying to justify what they did.

What do you think the consequences should be?

Okay, then I suppose you are an exception, but most of the posters on here are middle aged men. Most adults drink and drive, but think it is okay, because well they think they are fine. I also hold my daughter to high standards, BUT I will not impact a young woman's life by kicking her off the team. I have said earlier, community service or suspension, but in an age when teen suicide and drug use (heroin) is on the rise, I will not take something away from her that she loves. I will not subject her to that kind of embarrassment among her peers. Do any of you monitor your child's social media? Do you see how mean and cruel these girls can get? You of all posters should understand the complexities and difficulties of being a teen girl. I am really surprised a mother would advocate for her daughter to be kicked off the team for this. Again, most of the posters have daughter's on teams that play against NP, that is the ONLY reason for the moral outrage, it has nothing to do with the well being of the girls.

So I am a middle aged man that does not drink, I have been married to the same woman faithfully for 20 years, and have made several mistakes far worse than the ones commited by these girls, and my daughter is allready in college. They should recieve a suspention from school seeing as the crime was commited at a school function, they should be suspended from playing for the rest of the year for embarrising themselves, the school, there parents, the town, and most importantly there team. They should be made to attend the games in team gear, but not in uniform, to support the team mates they have let down. $600.00 is a lot of money and wasn't a couple of candy bars, so they need to held accountable in a very public and severe manor. But C.R. does not have i any ntegrity, and is far more concerned with her reputation so they will probably be playing in the next game

First off friend, if you are a middle aged man, with no dog in the fight, your knowledge of the incident is odd at best, downright scary at worst. You state you are a middle aged man who wants to see a bunch of teen girls punished severely, even though you suffered no loss, the only ones who can ask for this "severe" punishment is the company that was victimized. So, your odd fetish about punishing teen girls strikes me as something you should study a bit deeper, perhaps with the assistance of a shrink. Standing on the sidelines in uniform not allowed to play, is that your "Scarlet Letter"? What a [lacrosse] you sound like. Second, what was the "severe" punishment you doled out on yourself for your transgressions you committed in your youth? Or were you not caught, therefore making it all okay? Maybe it's time for you to seek forgiveness from those you stole from, but don't throw your guilt at a bunch of girls you don't know. Thirdly, go find your sixth grade teacher and punch her in the mouth, your grammar is pathetic, if your daughter is attending your alma mater, get her out fast, you didn't learn $hit. Lastly, I can at least understand the loser parents who want the girls suspended so they can see their school win, you I just don't get. This looks more like some sour grapes on your end.

Maybe The school I attended sucked, but at least they had more integrity than your Faux Upper class losers in north port. I never said I got away with anything, and was punished far worse than your little princess will be. Its funny you make fun of my grammar, but your reading comprehension is twice as bad, I didn't say they should attend games in uniforms, I said they shouldn't be allowed back in the uniform seeing as your thieving princess disgraced it. Maybe its you who should go punch your 6th grade teacher in the face for your lack of reading comprehension. Then punch your mother in the face for not teaching you to be a good parent. As for my knowlege of the situation it was easy to obtain, seeing as the facts have been talked about in detail on this site you flaming idiot, but I forgot you have no comprehension so you probably forgot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't ward melville in suffolk. Last i checked the money is in nassau.Ok they have suffolk county money.

What?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't ward melville in suffolk. Last i checked the money is in nassau.Ok they have suffolk county money.

Sorry Nassau but just like in the LIC you lose out to a Suffolk town when it comes to most expensive zip code.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't ward melville in suffolk. Last i checked the money is in nassau.Ok they have suffolk county money.

Sorry Nassau but just like in the LIC you lose out to a Suffolk town when it comes to most expensive zip code.

Very true but most of those localities are summer residences for people from Nassau.

We like to say "we head out east in the summer"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't ward melville in suffolk. Last i checked the money is in nassau.Ok they have suffolk county money.

Sorry Nassau but just like in the LIC you lose out to a Suffolk town when it comes to most expensive zip code.

Very true but most of those localities are summer residences for people from Nassau.

We like to say "we head out east in the summer"

we love it when you all go back up island !

To the middle aged man who wants the girls to wear their team gear on the sidelines, but not play, is that so you know who to creep on you weirdo? Hope you're registered with the authority's, I bet there's a pretty deep hole in your basement with a bucket attached. CREEP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are always excuse makers for the great coaches at Farmingdale, Wantagh, NorthShore Syosset Port Plainedge Macarthur, Massapequa yet unless they have the players they do very little. Just like summer coaches. Roll out the balls and let the girls play best CLUBS do well because the best girls play there the coaches are average at best

Our team is on the list and she isn't considered a great coach except by some groupie parents

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

You forgot to drop the Mic when you walked off stage. Although she will say a typical man would just leave things a mess and not pick up after themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

Im a woman/mom...and I have to agree. He has a point!FVXtpV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

Im a woman/mom...and I have to agree. He has a point!FVXtpV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

Only woman can watch or comment on girls sports!! You pervert!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

Im a woman/mom...and I have to agree. He has a point!FVXtpV

indont have a son and I go to our hs boys games all the time. Does that make me a mrs Robinson???? I enjoy the game

Nice try creep, go troll the 4th grade boys post, probably more your speed anyway. Weirdo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

Im a woman/mom...and I have to agree. He has a point!FVXtpV

indont have a son and I go to our hs boys games all the time. Does that make me a mrs Robinson???? I enjoy the game

Cougar

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

Im a woman/mom...and I have to agree. He has a point!FVXtpV

indont have a son and I go to our hs boys games all the time. Does that make me a mrs Robinson???? I enjoy the game

Cougar

Why do you need to tell us your sex? What does being a woman have to do with a weirdo pedophile trolling high school girl posts?

Does anyone know how many girls they take for School Girls? This is my daughter's first time trying out. Thanks

I guess men coaches are perverts to otherwise why are they coaching the girls game. They played the boys game when they grew up, its totally separate rules for the game. Not like soccer or basketball where the girls and boys rules are the same. So my question is why so many men coaches. Must all be perverts and pedophiles as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess men coaches are perverts to otherwise why are they coaching the girls game. They played the boys game when they grew up, its totally separate rules for the game. Not like soccer or basketball where the girls and boys rules are the same. So my question is why so many men coaches. Must all be perverts and pedophiles as well.

Nope, they have a reason to be there, you admit to not having a girl playing HS lax, your daughter is in college, you're just a degenerate loser pervert! Go away oddball! I'm sure you're the guy who sits in his van watching practice from the parking lot. Freak

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is a man without a girl playing high school lacrosse on the Girls high school thread anyway? Doesn't anyone else find that peculiar?

It's because of politicly correct mothers like you that woman/girls lacrosse will never get as much credit as mens. It's people like you that try to shame anyone into NOT watching a game because the players are woman/girls and not athletes, and if a man was to watch them he must be a creep or a perv and not just watching a game with athletes. By your logic any man that watches any female sport is a creep and a perv, but I bet your the first loudmouth to complain that woman don't make as much as men or get as much respect. Seems like your the one pimping out your daughters sex to shame someone that you don't agree with. I also bet you're the kind of idiot that wonders why only the parents of girls lacrosse go to watch a game while football gets larger crowds.I guess only the parents of current players get to state an opinion or it's peculiar when most of you should take the advice because you're pretty bad parents with no clue how raise children, thats why they shoplift in the first place, because you failed. Maybe you should sut up and listen for the first time in your life.

Im a woman/mom...and I have to agree. He has a point!FVXtpV

indont have a son and I go to our hs boys games all the time. Does that make me a mrs Robinson???? I enjoy the game

Cougar

Why do you need to tell us your sex? What does being a woman have to do with a weirdo pedophile trolling high school girl posts?

my point is, why is he a pedophile? maybe he just likes the game

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

Who really likes the game. Its pretty hard to watch. They say it gets better as they get older. I am still waiting as is so many others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

knows more than the refs on the field. And if you're an opposing parent you wouldn't even see him as u sit on other bleachers. So my guess same wi disgruntled parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

knows more than the refs on the field. And if you're an opposing parent you wouldn't even see him as u sit on other bleachers. So my guess same wi disgruntled parent

nicely written, fat bald guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

Then he should get his fat butt out there and ref if he knows more. He prob is to fat to keep up with the play though. Just another big fat guy who sits on the sidelines making calls. West Islip is white trash anyway. West Islip is bummed because there coach isn't so good when he doesn't have good players. Every coach is good when they have good players playing for them, When you lose your starts and you have to actually coach, your record shows. Good luck WI, you won't be winning anything this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

Then he should get his fat butt out there and ref if he knows more. He prob is to fat to keep up with the play though. Just another big fat guy who sits on the sidelines making calls. West Islip is white trash anyway. West Islip is bummed because there coach isn't so good when he doesn't have good players. Every coach is good when they have good players playing for them, When you lose your starts and you have to actually coach, your record shows. Good luck WI, you won't be winning anything this year

He is an official.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

Then he should get his fat butt out there and ref if he knows more. He prob is to fat to keep up with the play though. Just another big fat guy who sits on the sidelines making calls. West Islip is white trash anyway. West Islip is bummed because there coach isn't so good when he doesn't have good players. Every coach is good when they have good players playing for them, When you lose your starts and you have to actually coach, your record shows. Good luck WI, you won't be winning anything this year

He is an official.

An official fat bald guy, with a big mouth?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

knows more than the refs on the field. And if you're an opposing parent you wouldn't even see him as u sit on other bleachers. So my guess same wi disgruntled parent

nicely written, fat bald guy.

Actually no. Parent that sits near him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

Then he should get his fat butt out there and ref if he knows more. He prob is to fat to keep up with the play though. Just another big fat guy who sits on the sidelines making calls. West Islip is white trash anyway. West Islip is bummed because there coach isn't so good when he doesn't have good players. Every coach is good when they have good players playing for them, When you loss e your starts and you have to actually coach, your record shows. Good luck WI, you won't be winning anything this year

He is an official.

An official fat bald guy, with a big mouth?

perhaps you should learn how to spell before you run your fat mouth. White trash would be where mc lives and plays.

Nobody in wi cares what you think. Girls are just fine but thanks for your concern. And they'd take their coach over your man [lacrosse] looking thing anyday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the bald fat guy in WI that thinks he knows every call on the field why can't he just sit there and shut his fat mouth !!!!!!!!!!

knows more than the refs on the field. And if you're an opposing parent you wouldn't even see him as u sit on other bleachers. So my guess same wi disgruntled parent

nicely written, fat bald guy.

Actually no. Parent that sits near him.

That's cute. Do you hold his rule book?

Hmmm, no daughter in high school but weighs in on a post about girls lacrosse and how severe the punishment they should receive for the incident in Florida, yeah that's normal behavior for a middle aged male. Go sniff your moms dirty drawers psycho!

How many times has northport wardmelville been up state
WI 3 in a row
I think the coach knows what he is doing

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm, no daughter in high school but weighs in on a post about girls lacrosse and how severe the punishment they should receive for the incident in Florida, yeah that's normal behavior for a middle aged male. Go sniff your moms dirty drawers psycho!

You should be worried about your coach and the school board taking actions against her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm, no daughter in high school but weighs in on a post about girls lacrosse and how severe the punishment they should receive for the incident in Florida, yeah that's normal behavior for a middle aged male. Go sniff your moms dirty drawers psycho!

You should be worried about your coach and the school board taking actions against her.

Yeah because that's infinitely more important than a pedophile stalker of teenage girls. Priorities dude,priorities!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

Not surprised. It's a total political joke and has been for years.

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

No worse than the kids from Ward Melville who didn't actually have an invite from her coach but who's mommy made several phone calls and got her one. So yes I agree the whole thing is a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many times has northport wardmelville been up state
WI 3 in a row
I think the coach knows what he is doing

Agreed. West Islip coach has proven that he is a very good coach.

Not sure why you are bringing NP & WM into the conversation.

Hear is the answer:

Since 2011

West Islip is 96 - 25 with 3 County Championships, 2 Long Island Championships and 1 State Championship.

Northport is 82 - 29 with 1 County Championship, 1 Long Island Championship and 1 State Championship.

Ward Melville is 71 - 35 with no championships.

Bayshore has fallen off the past few years but during that time period they won 2 County Championships and 1 Long Island Championship.

Middle Country has come on strong but has yet to win a championship. Smithtown West has also done well the past couple of years.

Looks like it could come down to MC and WM this year but I would not count Northport or Smithtown West out just yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many times has northport wardmelville been up state
WI 3 in a row
I think the coach knows what he is doing

when they win its because of the coach. when they lose its because of the teenage girls. typical WI.

The West Islip coach is just a whiner on the sidelines, just like the rest of WI. Its the players that make the coach, not the coach making the players. As stated before when you lose your superstar players and then have just good players, you can't win with just that. Its the coaches who can win without the stars that is a good coach and he has shown this year tthat he can't do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The West Islip coach is just a whiner on the sidelines, just like the rest of WI. Its the players that make the coach, not the coach making the players. As stated before when you lose your superstar players and then have just good players, you can't win with just that. Its the coaches who can win without the stars that is a good coach and he has shown this year tthat he can't do that.

If you asked every coach in Div1 who they do not want to play in the playoffs they would say WI. Your opinion really doesn't matter. WI has been in every game this season. Bad first half in the Northport game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

First off its difficult to take your statement seriously when you exaggerate or are just plain ignorant of the facts. Looking at last years UA teams rosters I found a total of 3 Mattituck players divided into different age groups and knowing that team and those players they belonged, so stop with the "all". Who the kids cousin "is" I don't think had anything to do with it. That said I did hear from my own kid that the EH player did get cut, that the player cried to the coach who you are speaking of and he intervened on her behalf . My guess is that this player and this coach know one another as he is the former EH coach, does not make it right and if that kid is placed on a team taking a kids spot who legitimately did not get cut that's a major problem.

Damn guess it sucks for the poor girls that have no "connection". I'd rather have my kid make the team based on her skill and not because I was able to pull strings anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

First off its difficult to take your statement seriously when you exaggerate or are just plain ignorant of the facts. Looking at last years UA teams rosters I found a total of 3 Mattituck players divided into different age groups and knowing that team and those players they belonged, so stop with the "all". Who the kids cousin "is" I don't think had anything to do with it. That said I did hear from my own kid that the EH player did get cut, that the player cried to the coach who you are speaking of and he intervened on her behalf . My guess is that this player and this coach know one another as he is the former EH coach, does not make it right and if that kid is placed on a team taking a kids spot who legitimately did not get cut that's a major problem.

DK running this again? If so it will be his usual crap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

First off its difficult to take your statement seriously when you exaggerate or are just plain ignorant of the facts. Looking at last years UA teams rosters I found a total of 3 Mattituck players divided into different age groups and knowing that team and those players they belonged, so stop with the "all". Who the kids cousin "is" I don't think had anything to do with it. That said I did hear from my own kid that the EH player did get cut, that the player cried to the coach who you are speaking of and he intervened on her behalf . My guess is that this player and this coach know one another as he is the former EH coach, does not make it right and if that kid is placed on a team taking a kids spot who legitimately did not get cut that's a major problem.

So you are saying with some kids he was not bias, but with this one he was. I guess it's possible. Just not probable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

First off its difficult to take your statement seriously when you exaggerate or are just plain ignorant of the facts. Looking at last years UA teams rosters I found a total of 3 Mattituck players divided into different age groups and knowing that team and those players they belonged, so stop with the "all". Who the kids cousin "is" I don't think had anything to do with it. That said I did hear from my own kid that the EH player did get cut, that the player cried to the coach who you are speaking of and he intervened on her behalf . My guess is that this player and this coach know one another as he is the former EH coach, does not make it right and if that kid is placed on a team taking a kids spot who legitimately did not get cut that's a major problem.

DK running this again? If so it will be his usual crap.

Who is DK?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Damn guess it sucks for the poor girls that have no "connection". I'd rather have my kid make the team based on her skill and not because I was able to pull strings anyway.

Girls lax is by far "the" most political sport out there.

From college commits, to high school playing time, to high school awards some of what you will see is mind boggling.

school girls, all america teams, etc.

Hardly any of it makes sense.

Know someone? You're good.

Hmmmm, the pervert seems to have gone into hiding! Guess I stumbled upon something. Get some help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmmm, the pervert seems to have gone into hiding! Guess I stumbled upon something. Get some help.

pat yourself on the back there Columbo and let's move on from whatever your rambling about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Damn guess it sucks for the poor girls that have no "connection". I'd rather have my kid make the team based on her skill and not because I was able to pull strings anyway.

Girls lax is by far "the" most political sport out there.

From college commits, to high school playing time, to high school awards some of what you will see is mind boggling.

school girls, all america teams, etc.

Hardly any of it makes sense.

Know someone? You're good.

agree with this. if you are a marginal athlete or better you go places with the right politics and a checkbook. then mommy and daddy can tell their friends.

Northport coach feeling the heat should be an interesting week for the queen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmmm, the pervert seems to have gone into hiding! Guess I stumbled upon something. Get some help.

pat yourself on the back there Columbo and let's move on from whatever your rambling about.

thanks, I just dropped my coat off at the cleaners too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

If no coaches intervened then how did she know that the wrong number was read? The question had to have been asked by her or her parent to confirm the validity of the list of numbers that were read or did one of the coaches stop her before she left to tell her that her number was called incorrectly.

If a mistake was made then the coaches should have taken the time to write the numbers of those that made the cut and posted them for all to see. If one child's number was misspoken then there possibly could have been others as well. Posting the numbers would have at least eliminated some of that confusion, no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

I was looking at the registration info for this. $45 to try out, $125 if you make the team. Back in the day, if you were selected to try out for an event like this, there weren't all these fees, it was an actual honor. Now it seems like just one more money grab parents pay for to pad a lax resume. Doesn't seem like any of these events are actually recognition or acheivement based then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

agree with this. if you are a marginal athlete or better you go places with the right politics and a checkbook. then mommy and daddy can tell their friends.

Let's be honest. Organize a team fundraiser. Join your high school's booster club. your kid has a better chance to play in high school.

Even in travel lacrosse you see some players marketed and recruited over others based on the efforts or checkbooks of parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

Okay oldest trick in the book. "We said the wrong number."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

First off its difficult to take your statement seriously when you exaggerate or are just plain ignorant of the facts. Looking at last years UA teams rosters I found a total of 3 Mattituck players divided into different age groups and knowing that team and those players they belonged, so stop with the "all". Who the kids cousin "is" I don't think had anything to do with it. That said I did hear from my own kid that the EH player did get cut, that the player cried to the coach who you are speaking of and he intervened on her behalf . My guess is that this player and this coach know one another as he is the former EH coach, does not make it right and if that kid is placed on a team taking a kids spot who legitimately did not get cut that's a major problem.

So you are saying with some kids he was not bias, but with this one he was. I guess it's possible. Just not probable.

What I am saying are a few facts, 3 kids total from Mattituck made UA last year for teams that encompassed 4 different grades. Does not seem like a lot of kids for a descent program to have make it. My kid made one of the teams with 2 of them and has played against them during both travel and school ball. Now comes my own personal opinion, the kids that made it belonged there as I know them to be excellent players and to say " can get all the Mattituck.." when 3 total made it is ignorant. As far as the EH kid she is a good solid player but my kid told me she had a very bad morning session and did not have her number called to continue in the tryout . Make of it what you will.

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

Is this because players on her team were caught shoplifting on a team trip?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

This site is better than reality TV. Lax parents of LI, would be a #1 hit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully
young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

Did we figure out how they knew it was the wrong number called yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

It would be foolish to include 4 through 12 on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

It would be foolish to include 4 through 12 on this list.

hahaha. Northport will choke as always. Come next Friday it's a whole new season. Saddle up. Going to be a great ride

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Because according to the crazy North Port their parents, girls lacrosse can not be watched or liked by anyone other than players parents or they are creeps and pervs. They are just protecting your daughters because they are not really athletes just sex symbols

So who is going to take over at Northport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

It would be foolish to include 4 through 12 on this list.

hahaha. Northport will choke as always. Come next Friday it's a whole new season. Saddle up. Going to be a great ride

To watch MC choke again Year after year they can't get it down they get bullied because of their lack of size and this is it their last dance can they get it done ??? Maybe they can since it isn't going through WI this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Because according to the crazy North Port their parents, girls lacrosse can not be watched or liked by anyone other than players parents or they are creeps and pervs. They are just protecting your daughters because they are not really athletes just sex symbols

Northport games are on the Home Shoplifting Network

And the poor the thieving dears cant have their feelings hurt by being suspended for the season. It's just a part of growing up over there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

Nobody is bullying the kid. But the coach should be ashamed of himself. I guess if he's your guy its great.
Inside Lacrosse's # 1 recruit for 2018 didn't get the call back either. I wonder if her number was screwed up too.

Unless you have a daughter or relative or a friends daughter playing, the game is unwatchable. I would rather stick a hot poker in my eye on a tuesday afternoon then to go watch a girls lacrosse game. But i do it for my daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully
young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

Did we figure out how they knew it was the wrong number called yet?

Magic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make [lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully
young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

Did we figure out how they knew it was the wrong number called yet?

Magic!

She not going no where

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

It would be foolish to include 4 through 12 on this list.

hahaha. Northport will choke as always. Come next Friday it's a whole new season. Saddle up. Going to be a great ride

To watch MC choke again Year after year they can't get it down they get bullied because of their lack of size and this is it their last dance can they get it done ??? Maybe they can since it isn't going through WI this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

It would be foolish to include 4 through 12 on this list.

hahaha. Northport will choke as always. Come next Friday it's a whole new season. Saddle up. Going to be a great ride

To watch MC choke again Year after year they can't get it down they get bullied because of their lack of size and this is it their last dance can they get it done ??? Maybe they can since it isn't going through WI this year.

I love how you count wi out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

'''

The great West Islip down in 10th place, Not so good, Huntington is bad this year and they are ahead of them.

Yes Huntington really beating up on the opponents. You're obsession is borderline psychotic

Here's my problem with this board. These are teenage girls playing the game they love. Some teams obviously better than others. But they are all trying their best and playing with their friends. It's not travel ball, where the best play. Yet you "adults" get pleasure out of bashing teenagers? That's effed up. Grow up and enjoy watching your daughters play. They will be off to college before you know it and you will wish you didn't behave like such an [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make
[lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

Nobody is bullying the kid. But the coach should be ashamed of himself. I guess if he's your guy its great.
Inside Lacrosse's # 1 recruit for 2018 didn't get the call back either. I wonder if her number was screwed up too.

Sorry but your facts are wrong . Some actual facts . 1) The kid got cut, 2) The kid approached the coach/evaluator she has a relationship with ,3) the kid got to return to the afternoon session4) if the kid makes a team she will be taking the place from someone who did not get cut before the afternoon. At best it all has the appearance of impropriety , at worst it's just another example of how hideous people can behave .

Question, does anyone know the story why Mike Gongas was removed from Suffolk PAL?

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Because according to the crazy North Port their parents, girls lacrosse can not be watched or liked by anyone other than players parents or they are creeps and pervs. They are just protecting your daughters because they are not really athletes just sex symbols

Nice try creepo, it was in reference to your desire to punish teenagers, don't try to deflect dirty old man! You're only watching for one reason, and it's not because you love the game. Weirdo!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

That's why it says "... if season ended today." If you want to try to predict the future for us, have at it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

What idiots! No tears- no coaches intervened! You absolutely make up what you want to have happened! They read the the wrong number - some other kid actually made the cut that should not have!!! ! Before you have one fact, here you come, ready to make
[lacrosse] up! Going to guess you're daughter got cut and let's go ahead and bash someone elses kid and listen to your daughter assume the EH kid got special treatment. Would you people WAKE UP and stop being so pathetic. You are complete Idiots! How about it sucks for the kid because she made it, they screwed up her number and now she has mornos like you to deal with! My God you're such idiots!

OK MOM we believe you. They read the wrong number....oops. Was it just her number that was wrong? It's a good thing you were there to help them out .

Of course! Someone states facts to defend a kid from an idiot like you and you immediately assume it is the mom - wrong again! Some people just can't stand to watch stupid people bully young kids! You're 100% wrong! You're bitter and you are not worth one more breath.

Nobody is bullying the kid. But the coach should be ashamed of himself. I guess if he's your guy its great.
Inside Lacrosse's # 1 recruit for 2018 didn't get the call back either. I wonder if her number was screwed up too.

Sorry but your facts are wrong . Some actual facts . 1) The kid got cut, 2) The kid approached the coach/evaluator she has a relationship with ,3) the kid got to return to the afternoon session4) if the kid makes a team she will be taking the place from someone who did not get cut before the afternoon. At best it all has the appearance of impropriety , at worst it's just another example of how hideous people can behave .

Yes - it shows how "hideous people behave"

1) Your wrong 2) Your wrong 3) Your wrong 4) Your wrong

Hilarious that someone who is 100% WRONG, can come one here like a big shot know it all because he has no face or name and state with confidence that he has "Actual facts"
You are 100% WRONG! Therefore your "actual facts" are made up by an "actual pathetic human"
Defending those facts will make you continue to carry. Carry on all you want - YOU know you are making it up!
Wait, maybe your daughter told you this info... so it must be so!

This kid has to go through an undeserved mix up and now has to deal with knucklehead parents like you using her to pound his own chest. YOU ARE DISGUSTING!

That is the problem with "Power Rankings" system. The league coaches voted WI #2 to start the season. How is that possible when you lose every starter except 3. 1 is your goalie and another one is injured most of the season?

When is the next Northport School Board Meeting?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is the problem with "Power Rankings" system. The league coaches voted WI #2 to start the season. How is that possible when you lose every starter except 3. 1 is your goalie and another one is injured most of the season?

wi had 4 returning starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is the problem with "Power Rankings" system. The league coaches voted WI #2 to start the season. How is that possible when you lose every starter except 3. 1 is your goalie and another one is injured most of the season?

Great coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Because according to the crazy North Port their parents, girls lacrosse can not be watched or liked by anyone other than players parents or they are creeps and pervs. They are just protecting your daughters because they are not really athletes just sex symbols

Nice try creepo, it was in reference to your desire to punish teenagers, don't try to deflect dirty old man! You're only watching for one reason, and it's not because you love the game. Weirdo!

none of that noise again.. reason there's dramatically less televised games, and college too btw is because the game is so hard to watch. like hack a shaq back in the nineties. maul a girl going to shoot (and/or she's just plowing through a crowd which is also ugly) and put her on the free position (free throw) line. a zillion whistels, no flow, game needs some serious help now. guys game way more skill-based. passes, movement, teamwork. a lot less dependent on one on ones..

Lets see how the WI vs WM game goes today, I am sure the fat stout bald guy will not shut his mouth all game long .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see how the WI vs WM game goes today, I am sure the fat stout bald guy will not shut his mouth all game long .

You're a very angry person. Clearly you're from WI so why don't you just speak with him face to face and discuss what is bothering you so deeply.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see how the WI vs WM game goes today, I am sure the fat stout bald guy will not shut his mouth all game long .

why would he? "he knows more than the refs on the field" lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Am I reading this correctly? A tryout that tells the kids to fix/catch THEIR mistakes? Seems like a flawed tryout process. Do they feel guilty of pushing undeserving kids through?

"If you are good, and we don't know you, tell us that you need to stay"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Because according to the crazy North Port their parents, girls lacrosse can not be watched or liked by anyone other than players parents or they are creeps and pervs. They are just protecting your daughters because they are not really athletes just sex symbols

Nice try creepo, it was in reference to your desire to punish teenagers, don't try to deflect dirty old man! You're only watching for one reason, and it's not because you love the game. Weirdo!

none of that noise again.. reason there's dramatically less televised games, and college too btw is because the game is so hard to watch. like hack a shaq back in the nineties. maul a girl going to shoot (and/or she's just plowing through a crowd which is also ugly) and put her on the free position (free throw) line. a zillion whistels, no flow, game needs some serious help now. guys game way more skill-based. passes, movement, teamwork. a lot less dependent on one on ones..

Sorry but the noise is justified, there is a predator on the BOTC pages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Because according to the crazy North Port their parents, girls lacrosse can not be watched or liked by anyone other than players parents or they are creeps and pervs. They are just protecting your daughters because they are not really athletes just sex symbols

Nice try creepo, it was in reference to your desire to punish teenagers, don't try to deflect dirty old man! You're only watching for one reason, and it's not because you love the game. Weirdo!

none of that noise again.. reason there's dramatically less televised games, and college too btw is because the game is so hard to watch. like hack a shaq back in the nineties. maul a girl going to shoot (and/or she's just plowing through a crowd which is also ugly) and put her on the free position (free throw) line. a zillion whistels, no flow, game needs some serious help now. guys game way more skill-based. passes, movement, teamwork. a lot less dependent on one on ones..

Sorry but the noise is justified, there is a predator on the BOTC pages.

if there is a predator expose him/her! or as usual are you just making up $hit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the News12Varsity site and there are only boys lacrosse games listed under Live Games- with the exception of the Girls Suffolk Championship??? Why is the coverage of the girls game so minimized this year?

Because according to the crazy North Port their parents, girls lacrosse can not be watched or liked by anyone other than players parents or they are creeps and pervs. They are just protecting your daughters because they are not really athletes just sex symbols

Nice try creepo, it was in reference to your desire to punish teenagers, don't try to deflect dirty old man! You're only watching for one reason, and it's not because you love the game. Weirdo!

none of that noise again.. reason there's dramatically less televised games, and college too btw is because the game is so hard to watch. like hack a shaq back in the nineties. maul a girl going to shoot (and/or she's just plowing through a crowd which is also ugly) and put her on the free position (free throw) line. a zillion whistels, no flow, game needs some serious help now. guys game way more skill-based. passes, movement, teamwork. a lot less dependent on one on ones..

Sorry but the noise is justified, there is a predator on the BOTC pages.

if there is a predator expose him/her! or as usual are you just making up $hit!

Look in the mirror, EXPOSED

what are the teams in Nassau a b c d for playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Am I reading this correctly? A tryout that tells the kids to fix/catch THEIR mistakes? Seems like a flawed tryout process. Do they feel guilty of pushing undeserving kids through?

"If you are good, and we don't know you, tell us that you need to stay"

Wow - How did he guess? That's exactly what happened! They called out to all the players and said "If you are sad you didn't make it and think you're good, please go to the table and check if we made a mistake!

Keep making things up. You're starting to show people where the REAL problem is... The more you attempt to pretend you know what happened by claiming you know things, the more you show that you are unintelligent for starters, guessing, obsessed and will make up just about anything because you are hateful and angry. I understand the boring, honest truth is NOT what you thrive on so sorry to disappoint you. Move on to your next 15 year old victim!!

WI is DONE!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Am I reading this correctly? A tryout that tells the kids to fix/catch THEIR mistakes? Seems like a flawed tryout process. Do they feel guilty of pushing undeserving kids through?

"If you are good, and we don't know you, tell us that you need to stay"

Once they figured out the mixup, did they send the other kid home?

Wm is taking home the championship so you should all just stop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Am I reading this correctly? A tryout that tells the kids to fix/catch THEIR mistakes? Seems like a flawed tryout process. Do they feel guilty of pushing undeserving kids through?

"If you are good, and we don't know you, tell us that you need to stay"

Once they figured out the mixup, did they send the other kid home?

Sorry kid, Sally says she is better than you. Now go home. BTW do you have a cousin?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

This is why its just plain stupid for kids with verbals to go to these things and EXPOSE themselves, there's no upside other than adding this drivel to your college bio and mom and dad puffing out there chest on the sidelines of your school games. with the new rules all the 19 & 20 verbals would be best served to avoid these things rather than have coaches see that the rest of the group has caught up and/or passed them. the new ruling gives coaches some wiggle room on all these early verbals, but some parents can't resist...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

This is why its just plain stupid for kids with verbals to go to these things and EXPOSE themselves, there's no upside other than adding this drivel to your college bio and mom and dad puffing out there chest on the sidelines of your school games. with the new rules all the 19 & 20 verbals would be best served to avoid these things rather than have coaches see that the rest of the group has
caught up and/or passed them. the new ruling gives coaches some wiggle room on all these early verbals, but some parents can't resist...

Wow , your kid must be really bad .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

This is why its just plain stupid for kids with verbals to go to these things and EXPOSE themselves, there's no upside other than adding this drivel to your college bio and mom and dad puffing out there chest on the sidelines of your school games. with the new rules all the 19 & 20 verbals would be best served to avoid these things rather than have coaches see that the rest of the group has
caught up and/or passed them. the new ruling gives coaches some wiggle room on all these early verbals, but some parents can't resist...

Wow , your kid must be really bad .

Agree... with a really stupid parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

This is why its just plain stupid for kids with verbals to go to these things and EXPOSE themselves, there's no upside other than adding this drivel to your college bio and mom and dad puffing out there chest on the sidelines of your school games. with the new rules all the 19 & 20 verbals would be best served to avoid these things rather than have coaches see that the rest of the group has caught up and/or passed them. the new ruling gives coaches some wiggle room on all these early verbals, but some parents can't resist...

Or have your kid push themselves against the top LI talent. Only will help them in the long run. Be flattered that she got the invitation. Go out there and try your best. If you don't make it, work to get better and try again next year. A life lesson!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School Girls tryout was a joke again. The East Hampton kid was sent home after lunch, but she cried and told one of the joke coaches who her cousin is and was allowed to continue. Maybe that same coach can get all the Mattituck/Southold kids on Under Armour again. No shame!

This is why its just plain stupid for kids with verbals to go to these things and EXPOSE themselves, there's no upside other than adding this drivel to your college bio and mom and dad puffing out there chest on the sidelines of your school games. with the new rules all the 19 & 20 verbals would be best served to avoid these things rather than have coaches see that the rest of the group has caught up and/or passed them. the new ruling gives coaches some wiggle room on all these early verbals, but some parents can't resist...

Or have your kid push themselves against the top LI talent. Only will help them in the long run. Be flattered that she got the invitation. Go out there and try your best. If you don't make it, work to get better and try again next year. A life lesson!

That's way to intelligent for the stupid parent of the original post. Remember, this is BOTC and draws the finest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Am I reading this correctly? A tryout that tells the kids to fix/catch THEIR mistakes? Seems like a flawed tryout process. Do they feel guilty of pushing undeserving kids through?

"If you are good, and we don't know you, tell us that you need to stay"

Once they figured out the mixup, did they send the other kid home?

can I ask a question on this school girl tourney? my daughter is an uncommitted 2019, has had some interest from mid to low ranked D1 schools but no offers to this point. odds are getting long against her with very few spots remaining certainly. made this team though on a or 1 or whatever they call it.

question is, are there a bunch of coaches at this thing? a legitimate recruiting event or just a money grab, thanks for any info.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Am I reading this correctly? A tryout that tells the kids to fix/catch THEIR mistakes? Seems like a flawed tryout process. Do they feel guilty of pushing undeserving kids through?

"If you are good, and we don't know you, tell us that you need to stay"

Once they figured out the mixup, did they send the other kid home?

can I ask a question on this school girl tourney? my daughter is an uncommitted 2019, has had some interest from mid to low ranked D1 schools but no offers to this point. odds are getting long against her with very few spots remaining certainly. made this team though on a or 1 or whatever they call it.

question is, are there a bunch of coaches at this thing? a legitimate recruiting event or just a money grab, thanks for any info.

How did she make it? They announce the teams tomorrow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One fact that you missed. Kids were told, " if you did not hear your number called and you think it should have been called, come see the coaches." The kid stood up for herself and there is nothing wrong with that.

Am I reading this correctly? A tryout that tells the kids to fix/catch THEIR mistakes? Seems like a flawed tryout process. Do they feel guilty of pushing undeserving kids through?

"If you are good, and we don't know you, tell us that you need to stay"

Once they figured out the mixup, did they send the other kid home?

can I ask a question on this school girl tourney? my daughter is an uncommitted 2019, has had some interest from mid to low ranked D1 schools but no offers to this point. odds are getting long against her with very few spots remaining certainly. made this team though on a or 1 or whatever they call it.

question is, are there a bunch of coaches at this thing? a legitimate recruiting event or just a money grab, thanks for any info.

How did she make it? They announce the teams tomorrow

oh no we're not from LI. they notified girls in our area the night of the tryout..

Middle Country and Northport both lose , so much for the thought that anyone ranked below 3rd is a non factor

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Middle Country and Northport both lose , so much for the thought that anyone ranked below 3rd is a non factor

Northport is done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

Where do you find the power rankings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the teams in Nassau a b c d for playoffs?

enough with the nonsense being spewed lets talk HS playoffs. Where can the teams in A B C D be found?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

gotta look forward, not use today's power scores. who is playing who the next week and 1/2 to get to the PO. Break it down to who has to win 2 out of 4. Gotta go deeper than 12. To leave Commack and especially Longwood out is foolish at this point.

Had to circle back to this since you said Especially longwood. Can't see anyway Longwood is in the conversation, their 6 conference wins are against the 6th worst teams, Copiague, Whitman, Floyd, Lindenhurst and Brentwood and NB. Those teams combined have 13 wins total on the season. They'd have to win the last 3 games and pull off a major upset at Northport and even then they just have no quality wins to boost the Power rankings at all. Just my opinion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Middle Country and Northport both lose , so much for the thought that anyone ranked below 3rd is a non factor

Northport is done

Games are played on the field and not on this site.

Ward Melville
Middle Country
Sachem North
Smithtown West
Northport
Smithtown East
West Islip
HHH

Every once in a while a long shot wins. you never know. My long shot is Sachem North. (although they may not be a true long shot)

Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Middle Country and Northport both lose , so much for the thought that anyone ranked below 3rd is a non factor

Northport is done

I feel like this happens to Northport every year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Middle Country and Northport both lose , so much for the thought that anyone ranked below 3rd is a non factor

Northport is done

I feel like this happens to Northport every year

Ever since the incident in Florida, Northport has been on a downward spiral. Say what you want but those girls ruined there team. The girls are probably brats on the field as well which makes it worse.

That does not include yesterday's game results. It has to be updated.

So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Middle Country and Northport both lose , so much for the thought that anyone ranked below 3rd is a non factor

Northport is done

I feel like this happens to Northport every year

Ever since the incident in Florida, Northport has been on a downward spiral. Say what you want but those girls ruined there team. The girls are probably brats on the field as well which makes it worse.

Ahhh, the adult anonymously calling kids brats on a lacrosse post, pot, meet kettle!

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today

1-Ward Melville 170.010
2-Middle Country 156.350
3-Smithtown East 150.010
4-Northport 147.280
5-Smithtown West 146.350
6-Sachem North 138.190
7-H H Hills 126.560
8-Riverhead 122.010
9-Huntington 112.020
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Connetquot 102.730

Outside looking in
12-Commack HS 101.110

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

My daughter did not recognize anyone, she is a junior from Nassau and has been heavily involved as well. Our guess is that they were all or mostly Suffolk coaches

"Disgraces" would be more accurate.
Thieves, whatever. But brats, who knows?

is farmingdale making a coaching change?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today.

1-Ward Melville 165.000
2-Middle Country 159.000
3-Northport 149.000
4-Smithtown West 142.000
5-Smithtown East 141.000
6-Sachem North 130.000
7-H H Hills 126.200
8-Riverhead 121.000
9-Huntington 110.200
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 103.000

Outside looking in
12-Connetquot 102.000

Where do you find the power rankings?

Section XI, but for some reason they only have them for A:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v2/standings.asp

As of this morning they still only have A
Standings For GIRLS LACROSSE
Last Tally Date : 5/3/2017 9:54:59 AM

Ward Melville 11-0-0 13-0-0 170.010
Middle Country 9-2-0 9-2-0 156.350
Smithtown East 9-2-0 11-2-0 150.010
Northport 9-2-0 9-4-0 147.280
Smithtown West 8-3-0 9-4-0 146.350
Sachem North 8-3-0 10-3-0 138.190
H H Hills 8-3-0 8-4-0 126.560
Riverhead 7-4-0 8-5-0 122.010
Huntington 7-4-0 8-5-0 112.020
West Islip 5-6-0 7-6-0 110.000
Connetquot 6-5-0 7-5-0 102.730
Commack HS 5-6-0 6-7-0 101.110
Sachem East 4-7-0 4-7-0 99.090
Bay Shore 4-7-0 5-8-0 93.840
Patchogue-Medford 4-7-0 4-8-0 93.830
Longwood 6-5-0 8-5-0 92.930
Lindenhurst 4-7-0 4-9-0 77.470
Walt Whitman 2-9-0 2-10-0 67.460
Brentwood 2-9-0 4-9-0 61.820
North Babylon 2-9-0 4-9-0 58.390
William Floyd 1-10-0 1-12-0 49.290
Copiague 0-11-0 2-11-0 35.660

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

My daughter did not recognize anyone, she is a junior from Nassau and has been heavily involved as well. Our guess is that they were all or mostly Suffolk coaches

She should have complained. Not sure if you heard but at least one player was allowed back in. But it was her old coach, Can you say nepotism?

Big game coming up this weak for Connetquot vs Sachem East, do you think the winner of this game gets in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big game coming up this weak for Connetquot vs Sachem East, do you think the winner of this game gets in the playoffs.

Stop, your embarrassing yourself.

Adult calling teen girls "disgraces", must be a brave man. Way to go loser, here's to hoping Karma smacks you right in the face.

Obviously everyone is not up on the fact that Division 2/3/4 are done by league wins and losses. No more power points. You need .500 to get into playoffs. The order teams are listed are the standings as of now. Any ties will go to the head to head winner.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

My daughter did not recognize anyone, she is a junior from Nassau and has been heavily involved as well. Our guess is that they were all or mostly Suffolk coaches

She should have complained. Not sure if you heard but at least one player was allowed back in. But it was her old coach, Can you say nepotism?

You get more desperate by the hour! Can't imagine the ignorant posts that lie ahead when the actual teams are announced. Funny you can say anything you want behind the computer: Did anyone see the father of the one girl hand the director a wad of cash? My daughter heard him say "How much for the top team" - Anyone see the father hiding in the bushes with a walkie coaching his kid through the drills? Did you all know that one of the evaluators is having an affair with one of the kids parents. These must be the reasons your kid got cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

My daughter did not recognize anyone, she is a junior from Nassau and has been heavily involved as well. Our guess is that they were all or mostly Suffolk coaches

She should have complained. Not sure if you heard but at least one player was allowed back in. But it was her old coach, Can you say nepotism?

You get more desperate by the hour! Can't imagine the ignorant posts that lie ahead when the actual teams are announced. Funny you can say anything you want behind the computer: Did anyone see the father of the one girl hand the director a wad of cash? My daughter heard him say "How much for the top team" - Anyone see the father hiding in the bushes with a walkie coaching his kid through the drills? Did you all know that one of the evaluators is having an affair with one of the kids parents. These must be the reasons your kid got cut

Smokescreen mom?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

My daughter did not recognize anyone, she is a junior from Nassau and has been heavily involved as well. Our guess is that they were all or mostly Suffolk coaches

She should have complained. Not sure if you heard but at least one player was allowed back in. But it was her old coach, Can you say nepotism?

You get more desperate by the hour! Can't imagine the ignorant posts that lie ahead when the actual teams are announced. Funny you can say anything you want behind the computer: Did anyone see the father of the one girl hand the director a wad of cash? My daughter heard him say "How much for the top team" - Anyone see the father hiding in the bushes with a walkie coaching his kid through the drills? Did you all know that one of the evaluators is having an affair with one of the kids parents. These must be the reasons your kid got cut.

You obviously have emotional issues and can almost guarantee that you need to have your meds adjusted. Why keep responding to these posts. If you do not feel it looks a little suspicious that 1 kid who happens to have connections to 2 of the evaluators, and number was not called at lunch, was allowed to continue you are not being honest. I actually think that kid is good enough to make one of the teams but there was a kid cut who is one of the best players on Long Island so previous reputation should have little impact. Cannot tell you if politics played a role or not but the evaluators have to live with themselves if they put a kid on who did not deserve it while keeping one that did off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

My daughter did not recognize anyone, she is a junior from Nassau and has been heavily involved as well. Our guess is that they were all or mostly Suffolk coaches

She should have complained. Not sure if you heard but at least one player was allowed back in. But it was her old coach, Can you say nepotism?

You get more desperate by the hour! Can't imagine the ignorant posts that lie ahead when the actual teams are announced. Funny you can say anything you want behind the computer: Did anyone see the father of the one girl hand the director a wad of cash? My daughter heard him say "How much for the top team" - Anyone see the father hiding in the bushes with a walkie coaching his kid through the drills? Did you all know that one of the evaluators is having an affair with one of the kids parents. These must be the reasons your kid got cut.

You obviously have emotional issues and can almost guarantee that you need to have your meds adjusted. Why keep responding to these posts. If you do not feel it looks a little suspicious that 1 kid who happens to have connections to 2 of the evaluators, and number was not called at lunch, was allowed to continue you are not being honest. I actually think that kid is good enough to make one of the teams but there was a kid cut who is one of the best players on Long Island so previous reputation should have little impact. Cannot tell you if politics played a role or not but the evaluators have to live with themselves if they put a kid on who did not deserve it while keeping one that did off.

What town was the kid who actually did get cut from?

My freshmen daughter did not make it either.
Does anyone know if your own high school coach is there as an evaluator, is she allowed to "grade" her own kids? That seems unfair to me. Our coach WAS there. I'm just asking if anyone knows the rules on this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My freshmen daughter did not make it either.
Does anyone know if your own high school coach is there as an evaluator, is she allowed to "grade" her own kids? That seems unfair to me. Our coach WAS there. I'm just asking if anyone knows the rules on this.

what school?

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

This is why I'm looking for a place in New Jersey. I just can't live with the fact that LI may lose a girls lacrosse tournament. It's very upsetting to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

Didn't long island win school girls last year? also, no politics in maryland and jersey? With that said, i do agree with u, some non deserving girls making these teams.

Wow that is a completely obnoxious comment...a little jealous that your kid has NO offers

Do they post the rosters anywhere?

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today

1-Ward Melville 170.010
2-Middle Country 156.350
3-Smithtown East 150.010
4-Northport 147.280
5-Smithtown West 146.350
6-Sachem North 138.190
7-H H Hills 126.560
8-Riverhead 122.010
9-Huntington 112.020
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Connetquot 102.730

Outside looking in
12-Commack HS 101.110

Will Northport drop down when MC beats them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

This is why I'm looking for a place in New Jersey. I just can't live with the fact that LI may lose a girls lacrosse tournament. It's very upsetting to me.

please do, one less obnoxous a-hole parent on L.I.

You only get points if you beat a team above yiu

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture if season ended today

1-Ward Melville 170.010
2-Middle Country 156.350
3-Smithtown East 150.010
4-Northport 147.280
5-Smithtown West 146.350
6-Sachem North 138.190
7-H H Hills 126.560
8-Riverhead 122.010
9-Huntington 112.020
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Connetquot 102.730

Outside looking in
12-Commack HS 101.110

Will Northport drop down when MC beats them?

Final Four guesses, predictions and thoughts. Who will win County Championship?

Ward Melville - Surprise of the year can they win in the playoffs?

Middle Country - Has the fire power but do they have the depth?

Sachem North - They are tough, do they have enough talent?

Who else? Northport? Smithtown East? Smithtown West?

I'm sure Ortega will
Do everything she can to win this yr. great hs career but no grand prize. Wm is good. But had some close calls. Sw has the talent

WM clear favorite but not a surprise .
Northport has a chance depending on length of those suspensions.
Middle Country could win it , will have the best player on the field in just about every game but little else .
Smithtown East has some descent talent but plays like a team divided , a lot of players trying to get theirs but do not play a team game .
Smithtown West , not very good
Sachem North , not very good
West Islip , plays as a team but not enough talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You only get points if you beat a team above yiu

OK professor.....explain to me why WM has 170 pts when they are above everyone

I thought northport suspensions over. Girls were playing correct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought northport suspensions over. Girls were playing correct?

The knocked off a liquor store last weekend. New suspensions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

Who gets special treatment from E.S.M.??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM clear favorite but not a surprise .
Northport has a chance depending on length of those suspensions.
Middle Country could win it , will have the best player on the field in just about every game but little else .
Smithtown East has some descent talent but plays like a team divided , a lot of players trying to get theirs but do not play a team game .
Smithtown West , not very good
Sachem North , not very good
West Islip , plays as a team but not enough talent

Northport: Did any NP players actually get suspended? What games did they miss? how many games were they suspended for?
Ward Melville: certainly a surprise, track record over the years has not been good. What would cause people to think this year would be any different?
Smithtown West: looks good to me. They have a fair amount of talent and a decent coach.
Sachem North: is a good team. Not sure how much talent they have but they are competitive.
Smithtown East: ? Not sure what to make of them just yet. Looks like they play like most other teams.
West Islip; is ok. Not as good as they have been the past several years.Yes, well coached.
Middle Country: has been making noise the past few years and a lot of returning players. Should make it to the finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought northport suspensions over. Girls were playing correct?

The knocked off a liquor store last weekend. New suspensions.

Heard they robbed a bank too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought northport suspensions over. Girls were playing correct?

The knocked off a liquor store last weekend. New suspensions.

Anything come of the video of a coach while on Florida trip?

with all the blabbering, NO ONE knows who is in what division in Nassau for the playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM clear favorite but not a surprise .
Northport has a chance depending on length of those suspensions.
Middle Country could win it , will have the best player on the field in just about every game but little else .
Smithtown East has some descent talent but plays like a team divided , a lot of players trying to get theirs but do not play a team game .
Smithtown West , not very good
Sachem North , not very good
West Islip , plays as a team but not enough talent

Northport: Did any NP players actually get suspended? What games did they miss? how many games were they suspended for?
Ward Melville: certainly a surprise, track record over the years has not been good. What would cause people to think this year would be any different?
Smithtown West: looks good to me. They have a fair amount of talent and a decent coach.
Sachem North: is a good team. Not sure how much talent they have but they are competitive.
Smithtown East: ? Not sure what to make of them just yet. Looks like they play like most other teams.
West Islip; is ok. Not as good as they have been the past several years.Yes, well coached.
Middle Country: has been making noise the past few years and a lot of returning players. Should make it to the finals.

Ward Melville had a bench full of very talented sophomore's last year that never played. They have a very strong team of juniors so they will be strong this year and next and then it's probably over If middle country doesn't do it this year they probably won't have the opportunity again. Smithtown West has a young team. They should be in the mix for a couple
Of yrs. West Islip Graduated some excellent seniors and then had some seniors that just rode the coattails of the excellent seniors. They have some very talented younger players so I think over the next couple of years you going to see them come back. I don't know the ages of the Northport players I'm guessing they're spread out so they could be a contender for the next year or two as well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You only get points if you beat a team above yiu

OK professor.....explain to me why WM has 170 pts when they are above everyone

they are PowerPoint see you only get points for playing stronger teams not for beating up on Copiague Or , Brentwood

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

There is a video of the NP coach or the girls who shoplifted at Universal? Does the NP school district have a copy? A picture is worth a 1000 words ... a video tells the real story. Full disclosure of the events would require a review of all the evidence, including any videos. Cover-up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

Who gets special treatment from E.S.M.??

Who doesn't?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

Who gets special treatment from E.S.M.??

Who doesn't?

Must suck to go through life jealous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the real answer to the nepotism/ favoritism debate will be answered on the field. Believe it or not there was a time when L.I. girls lacrosse ruled on the field. We would win School Girls , Under Armour, and almost every other event you could think of. Our girls were able to beat everyone out there, including Baltimore Philly Mass. and metro D.C....... But now it seems as though selfishness favoritism, parents and coachines egos have taken over and destroyed our girls. It is no longer can you play, but do you play for Mt. Sinai, or Northport or E.S.M. All the egos and blind alligences to clubs and schools from both the parents and coaches are ruining Girls lacross on OUR island. Now the loud mouthh parents of today will come on and scoff at me and tell me Im a perv or a stalker. but there are plenty of you on this thread tht know exactly what I mean. Face it we made our girls second best to Maryland and Jersey.... just look at the score sheets

Who gets special treatment from E.S.M.??

Who doesn't?

Must suck to go through life jealous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

And Sachem North just got two eskimos from Alaska. They are huge and can score with their eyes closed. Both 6 feet 3 inches tall 8th graders I think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

lmao you people are hilarious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

west islip has never said they were great. It's everyone else that has just had a field day this year with the fact that it's a new team. To say they have no talent is bullsh*t. They have some great players. They also have some green players. It is what it is right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

its a down year for them no doubt but they will get better... growing pains this year.

I called Section XI about this. There is no way these two should be able to play. They said they would get back to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM clear favorite but not a surprise .
Northport has a chance depending on length of those suspensions.
Middle Country could win it , will have the best player on the field in just about every game but little else .
Smithtown East has some descent talent but plays like a team divided , a lot of players trying to get theirs but do not play a team game .
Smithtown West , not very good
Sachem North , not very good
West Islip , plays as a team but not enough talent

Northport: Did any NP players actually get suspended? What games did they miss? how many games were they suspended for?
Ward Melville: certainly a surprise, track record over the years has not been good. What would cause people to think this year would be any different?
Smithtown West: looks good to me. They have a fair amount of talent and a decent coach.
Sachem North: is a good team. Not sure how much talent they have but they are competitive.
Smithtown East: ? Not sure what to make of them just yet. Looks like they play like most other teams.
West Islip; is ok. Not as good as they have been the past several years.Yes, well coached.
Middle Country: has been making noise the past few years and a lot of returning players. Should make it to the finals.

Ward Melville had a bench full of very talented sophomore's last year that never played. They have a very strong team of juniors so they will be strong this year and next and then it's probably over If middle country doesn't do it this year they probably won't have the opportunity again. Smithtown West has a young team. They should be in the mix for a couple
Of yrs. West Islip Graduated some excellent seniors and then had some seniors that just rode the coattails of the excellent seniors. They have some very talented younger players so I think over the next couple of years you going to see them come back. I don't know the ages of the Northport players I'm guessing they're spread out so they could be a contender for the next year or two as well

The following comments: "Ward Melville had a bench full of very talented sophomore's last year that never played." are not accurate.

A more accurate assessment would be: Ward Melville has strong Senior (2017) and Junior (2018) classes. None of the current Juniors or Seniors were brought up to the varsity as 9th graders. As sophomores most did see game time but the playing time was limited and changed throughout the season. Some of the players in those grades saw very limited playing time as sophomores. Ward Melville has the athletes to be very competitive but they must be on the field in order to compete.

Several teams have a chance to win the County Championship.

Middle Country
Ward Melville
Sachem North
Smithtown West
Smithtown East
Northport
West Islip

Just be happy that the Championship will be decided on the field and not on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I called Section XI about this. There is no way these two should be able to play. They said they would get back to me.

we got two Syrian refugees they are outstanding as well

So says the big Fat Bald know it all !!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is a video of the NP coach or the girls who shoplifted at Universal? Does the NP school district have a copy? A picture is worth a 1000 words ... a video tells the real story. Full disclosure of the events would require a review of all the evidence, including any videos. Cover-up?

What's your point?

are there any big game left for this season or have they all been played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

are there any big game left for this season or have they all been played.

Why don't Nassau B playoffs start until May 17? The Boces Section 8 site only had 8 teams in the playoff brackets. Last year it was at least 16.

who is in Nassau B and C?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM clear favorite but not a surprise .
Northport has a chance depending on length of those suspensions.
Middle Country could win it , will have the best player on the field in just about every game but little else .
Smithtown East has some descent talent but plays like a team divided , a lot of players trying to get theirs but do not play a team game .
Smithtown West , not very good
Sachem North , not very good
West Islip , plays as a team but not enough talent

Northport: Did any NP players actually get suspended? What games did they miss? how many games were they suspended for?
Ward Melville: certainly a surprise, track record over the years has not been good. What would cause people to think this year would be any different?
Smithtown West: looks good to me. They have a fair amount of talent and a decent coach.
Sachem North: is a good team. Not sure how much talent they have but they are competitive.
Smithtown East: ? Not sure what to make of them just yet. Looks like they play like most other teams.
West Islip; is ok. Not as good as they have been the past several years.Yes, well coached.
Middle Country: has been making noise the past few years and a lot of returning players. Should make it to the finals.

Ward Melville had a bench full of very talented sophomore's last year that never played. They have a very strong team of juniors so they will be strong this year and next and then it's probably over If middle country doesn't do it this year they probably won't have the opportunity again. Smithtown West has a young team. They should be in the mix for a couple
Of yrs. West Islip Graduated some excellent seniors and then had some seniors that just rode the coattails of the excellent seniors. They have some very talented younger players so I think over the next couple of years you going to see them come back. I don't know the ages of the Northport players I'm guessing they're spread out so they could be a contender for the next year or two as well

The following comments: "Ward Melville had a bench full of very talented sophomore's last year that never played." are not accurate.

A more accurate assessment would be: Ward Melville has strong Senior (2017) and Junior (2018) classes. None of the current Juniors or Seniors were brought up to the varsity as 9th graders. As sophomores most did see game time but the playing time was limited and changed throughout the season. Some of the players in those grades saw very limited playing time as sophomores. Ward Melville has the athletes to be very competitive but they must be on the field in order to compete.

Several teams have a chance to win the County Championship.

Middle Country
Ward Melville
Sachem North
Smithtown West
Smithtown East
Northport
West Islip

Just be happy that the Championship will be decided on the field and not on this site.

West Islip lost to Riverhead yesterday, and is in real danger of not making the playoffs.

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So my daughter tried out for school girls and was cut after lunch. Not a huge surprise as we know there are many talented players at her position on LI. I've got no axe to grind. My question is, who were the evaluators? We have been around the LI Lacrosse scene for a very long time and she said she didn't recognize anyone. Just curious. No hidden agenda here. Thanks

My daughter did not recognize anyone, she is a junior from Nassau and has been heavily involved as well. Our guess is that they were all or mostly Suffolk coaches

She should have complained. Not sure if you heard but at least one player was allowed back in. But it was her old coach, Can you say nepotism?

You get more desperate by the hour! Can't imagine the ignorant posts that lie ahead when the actual teams are announced. Funny you can say anything you want behind the computer: Did anyone see the father of the one girl hand the director a wad of cash? My daughter heard him say "How much for the top team" - Anyone see the father hiding in the bushes with a walkie coaching his kid through the drills? Did you all know that one of the evaluators is having an affair with one of the kids parents. These must be the reasons your kid got cut.

You obviously have emotional issues and can almost guarantee that you need to have your meds adjusted. Why keep responding to these posts. If you do not feel it looks a little suspicious that 1 kid who happens to have connections to 2 of the evaluators, and number was not called at lunch, was allowed to continue you are not being honest. I actually think that kid is good enough to make one of the teams but there was a kid cut who is one of the best players on Long Island so previous reputation should have little impact. Cannot tell you if politics played a role or not but the evaluators have to live with themselves if they put a kid on who did not deserve it while keeping one that did off.

EH kid is a nice little player, top 50 HS player on LI? not even close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

West Islip doesn't have their best players on Varsity plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

I bet if he had pulled your kid up like you think he should have they'd win states right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

West Islip doesn't have their best players on Varsity plain and simple.

none of the girls on the field are the best players?

Thanks JL ..........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

West Islip doesn't have their best players on Varsity plain and simple.

Are they in MS or JV?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

were you at the game? are you a wi parent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks JL ..........

yes jim, thank you for spending your free time putting together great things for all the girls that play lax in wi. from pal up to varsity. Senior day was a great success as well. to the bitter person that keeps thanking him, man up and have a nice face to face.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

I bet if he had pulled your kid up like you think he should have they'd win states right?

h yeah. she is a game wrecker. pure and simple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

I bet if he had pulled your kid up like you think he should have they'd win states right?

h yeah. she is a game wrecker. pure and simple

Wow a one girl show. Fantastic. What position?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

I bet if he had pulled your kid up like you think he should have they'd win states right?

h yeah. she is a game wrecker. pure and simple

Wow a one girl show. Fantastic. What position?

Bench

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

West Islip doesn't have their best players on Varsity plain and simple.

MS parent spouting off again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

The are a very SLOW team, you can't coach speed and they don't have any, the teams that are beating them are running them ragged

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

The are a very SLOW team, you can't coach speed and they don't have any, the teams that are beating them are running them ragged

They have at least 3 kids that can rip down the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As bad as WI played they don't deserve to make the playoffs

West Islip doesn't have their best players on Varsity plain and simple.

MS parent spouting off again.

More like a jv parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

The are a very SLOW team, you can't coach speed and they don't have any, the teams that are beating them are running them ragged

Then change your style to match your talent. That's coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

The are a very SLOW team, you can't coach speed and they don't have any, the teams that are beating them are running them ragged

Then change your style to match your talent. That's coaching.

Coach can't do that because he can only coach talent and can't coach when there is no talent. Like most coaches out there, they coach talent, when talent isn't there then there poor coaching shows

WI did not have the fire power and speed this year.
You can't coach speed and honestly they could not stay on top forever. In years to come they will be better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

The are a very SLOW team, you can't coach speed and they don't have any, the teams that are beating them are running them ragged

Then change your style to match your talent. That's coaching.

Coach can't do that because he can only coach talent and can't coach when there is no talent. Like most coaches out there, they coach talent, when talent isn't there then there poor coaching shows

Common sense tells me to ignore you. However you're insulting my a kid that I've seen play for years. There are talented kids on this team. Mixed with some kids that are inexperienced. It's school ball. You play with your peers and if you have a good mix then you're blessed. Jealous losers who's kid didn't make the cut(who by the way would be mortified by you, because these kids are her friends) are what's wrong with youth sports. And I'm guessing you may be the reason she was left behind

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

The are a very SLOW team, you can't coach speed and they don't have any, the teams that are beating them are running them ragged

Then change your style to match your talent. That's coaching.

Coach can't do that because he can only coach talent and can't coach when there is no talent. Like most coaches out there, they coach talent, when talent isn't there then there poor coaching shows

Common sense tells me to ignore you. However you're insulting my a kid that I've seen play for years. There are talented kids on this team. Mixed with some kids that are inexperienced. It's school ball. You play with your peers and if you have a good mix then you're blessed. Jealous losers who's kid didn't make the cut(who by the way would be mortified by you, because these kids are her friends) are what's wrong with youth sports. And I'm guessing you may be the reason she was left behind

Former coach wild eagle is now the WI asst coach.

WI is a huge non factor this year, it happens. But, can we end this or start a new WI thread. thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A teacher in West Islip tells me a month ago two Sioux Indian girls have moved from Arizona to West Islip. On Tuesday they have enough practices to play in games. WI has kept this very quiet. The girls are incredible! One broke the goalies helmet with a shot from about 30 feet. This throws away any analysis in Suffolk County. They are both ninth gradery, but gigantic.

West Islip needs something since they and there coach is a bunch of pretenders this year. No good talent, no good coaching without the talent. Your only as good as your players and that is the West Islip coach and team

The are a very SLOW team, you can't coach speed and they don't have any, the teams that are beating them are running them ragged

They have at least 3 kids that can rip down the field

I guess they need three more...

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

this is fantastic I for one love just watching my kid play. Good bad or ugly. Because before you know it, it's over

Wish there was a like button.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Zero chance you are an actual coach . Amazing some loser like yourself would take the time to post this nonsense. No one is living thru their kids , parents are happy when their kids and their kids team excel , so what .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Nicely written and most of what you've written is perfect. But I'm not sure this is all abiut living through someone's kid. There is clearly some BS going on with you coaches, who get paid to do this job. Perhaps the day you worry about putting your best team on the field and not returning favors to your friends, relatives and neighbors with taxpayer money, people will STFU. It's a game coach, let's reward those who deserve to play (or maybe since you're so concerened, those who were raised properly) and not the parent''s who kiss your a** or scream the loudest...... be a coach, not a puppet. And BTW, I smile at you too at events, it's just how I was raised.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Zero chance you are an actual coach . Amazing some loser like yourself would take the time to post this nonsense. No one is living thru their kids , parents are happy when their kids and their kids team excel , so what .

I agree, most parents all they do is whine about everything. They cry about the coaches, the officials, the team they are playing, the girls on there own team who get more playing time then there child or doesn't pass the ball. Just enjoy the game and stop with the craziness while watching the game,. Stop coaching on the sidelines as well, you tell them to do one thing while the coach is telling them something else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Nicely written and most of what you've written is perfect. But I'm not sure this is all abiut living through someone's kid. There is clearly some BS going on with you coaches, who get paid to do this job. Perhaps the day you worry about putting your best team on the field and not returning favors to your friends, relatives and neighbors with taxpayer money, people will STFU. It's a game coach, let's reward those who deserve to play (or maybe since you're so concerened, those who were raised properly) and not the parent''s who kiss your a** or scream the loudest...... be a coach, not a puppet. And BTW, I smile at you too at events, it's just how I was raised.

Couldn't have written it better myself.

Well done.

I often wonder what nonsense goes on behind the scenes with these coaches (money from parents, kickbacks to ADs who allow the coaches to utilize school resources, other hidden agendas).

While it's not-so obvious what exactly is going on, it's clear to many that fire caused the smoke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Thank you CR. When does the trial start? Will the video be admissible?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Nicely written and most of what you've written is perfect. But I'm not sure this is all abiut living through someone's kid. There is clearly some BS going on with you coaches, who get paid to do this job. Perhaps the day you worry about putting your best team on the field and not returning favors to your friends, relatives and neighbors with taxpayer money, people will STFU. It's a game coach, let's reward those who deserve to play (or maybe since you're so concerened, those who were raised properly) and not the parent''s who kiss your a** or scream the loudest...... be a coach, not a puppet. And BTW, I smile at you too at events, it's just how I was raised.

These 2 posts are probably the best thing I've ever read on BOTC. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Zero chance you are an actual coach . Amazing some loser like yourself would take the time to post this nonsense. No one is living thru their kids , parents are happy when their kids and their kids team excel , so what .

Looks like we found the person who this should of been addressed too. Good original post.

Suffolk D1 if playoffs started today

1-Ward Melville 175.000
2-Middle Country 159.490
3-Smithtown East 157.820
4-Northport 151.290
5-Smithtown West 151.160
6-Sachem North 146.150
7-Riverhead 127.640
8-H H Hills 123.980
9-Huntington 115.960
10-West Islip 105.830
11-Sachem East 105.000

Outside looking in...
12-Commack HS 97.330

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk D1 if playoffs started today

1-Ward Melville 175.000
2-Middle Country 159.490
3-Smithtown East 157.820
4-Northport 151.290
5-Smithtown West 151.160
6-Sachem North 146.150
7-Riverhead 127.640
8-H H Hills 123.980
9-Huntington 115.960
10-West Islip 105.830
11-Sachem East 105.000

Outside looking in...
12-Commack HS 97.330

Does anyone know how the Nassau playoffs work this year? Boces has Class B as only having 8 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Zero chance you are an actual coach . Amazing some loser like yourself would take the time to post this nonsense. No one is living thru their kids , parents are happy when their kids and their kids team excel , so what .

Looks like we found the person who this should of been addressed too. Good original post.

Looks like we found the original non coach fake poster. Most coaches actually do like most of the parents and do not have to pretend to like anyone. You actually manage to make the coaches look like aholes which they are not.

Keep believing the coaches like you, especially when your kid is a brat and you're no better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK COUNTY COACH HERE! Can all you parents just STFU and enjoy your kids high school experience! You trash us on this site all year long and if we could have our own page to talk about your ridiculous parenting of "lack of parenting" we would love to but as a whole we are professional, put up with your cry baby antics all year long and then have to smile and pretend we like you when we see you at team functions. Well I say to you, STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR KIDS, let us coach and we will let you parent! Clearly you suck at parenting as much as we suck at coaching but we let you do your thing so let us do ours and again STFU.

Zero chance you are an actual coach . Amazing some loser like yourself would take the time to post this nonsense. No one is living thru their kids , parents are happy when their kids and their kids team excel , so what .

Looks like we found the person who this should of been addressed too. Good original post.

Looks like we found the original non coach fake poster. Most coaches actually do like most of the parents and do not have to pretend to like anyone. You actually manage to make the coaches look like aholes which they are not.

And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA

"And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA"

No he said he likes your wife but finds you to be a loser and when he talks to you he is not sure if he should offer you a tic tac or toilet paper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA"

No he said he likes your wife but finds you to be a loser and when he talks to you he is not sure if he should offer you a tic tac or toilet paper.

Yeah, you talked nonsense, the HS coach thinks you're a complete [lacrosse]hole, so throw empty nonsense out there. Just think you kiss his a$$ and when you walk away he cant stop laughing at you behind your back. Jacka$$. HAHAHAHA,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA"

No he said he likes your wife but finds you to be a loser and when he talks to you he is not sure if he should offer you a tic tac or toilet paper.

Yeah, you talked nonsense, the HS coach thinks you're a complete [lacrosse]hole, so throw empty nonsense out there. Just think you kiss his a$$ and when you walk away he cant stop laughing at you behind your back. Jacka$$. HAHAHAHA,

Do you require a tic tac or toilet paper no one can tell.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA"

No he said he likes your wife but finds you to be a loser and when he talks to you he is not sure if he should offer you a tic tac or toilet paper.

Yeah, you talked nonsense, the HS coach thinks you're a complete [lacrosse]hole, so throw empty nonsense out there. Just think you kiss his a$$ and when you walk away he cant stop laughing at you behind your back. Jacka$$. HAHAHAHA,

Do you require a tic tac or toilet paper no one can tell.

Sorry, never spoke to the man. Don't need to, go offer your wife up, maybe your kid will get some time brown noser hahahaha, what a clown, hi coach, need something coach? Kiss [lacrosse] chump.

The biggest kiss asses always run the booster club. Its been true for years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest kiss asses always run the booster club. Its been true for years

Says the guy that does nothing but complain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA"

No he said he likes your wife but finds you to be a loser and when he talks to you he is not sure if he should offer you a tic tac or toilet paper.

Yeah, you talked nonsense, the HS coach thinks you're a complete [lacrosse]hole, so throw empty nonsense out there. Just think you kiss his a$$ and when you walk away he cant stop laughing at you behind your back. Jacka$$. HAHAHAHA,

Do you require a tic tac or toilet paper no one can tell.

Sorry, never spoke to the man. Don't need to, go offer your wife up, maybe your kid will get some time brown noser hahahaha, what a clown, hi coach, need something coach? Kiss [lacrosse] chump.

How old are you two idiots?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest kiss asses always run the booster club. Its been true for years

Says the guy that does nothing but complain.

Nice try but we sell our raffles, drop off pasta and sit with the bulk of the parents while we watch you down close to the field with your head up the coaches and AD's [lacrosse]. Most do it for access, influence and applause. If you aren't doing it for any of those reasons I applaud you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA"

No he said he likes your wife but finds you to be a loser and when he talks to you he is not sure if he should offer you a tic tac or toilet paper.

Yeah, you talked nonsense, the HS coach thinks you're a complete [lacrosse]hole, so throw empty nonsense out there. Just think you kiss his
a$$ and when you walk away he cant stop laughing at you behind your back. Jacka$$. HAHAHAHA,

Do you require a tic tac or toilet paper no one can tell.

Sorry, never spoke to the man. Don't need to, go offer your wife up, maybe your kid will get some time brown noser hahahaha, what a clown, hi coach, need something coach? Kiss [lacrosse] chump.

Toilet paper it is . Try using a toothbrush , your breath is rancid .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"And how would you know that most coaches like the parents? Let me guess, the coach told you he likes you! HAHAHAHAHAHA"

No he said he likes your wife but finds you to be a loser and when he talks to you he is not sure if he should offer you a tic tac or toilet paper.

Yeah, you talked nonsense, the HS coach thinks you're a complete [lacrosse]hole, so throw empty nonsense out there. Just think you kiss his
a$$ and when you walk away he cant stop laughing at you behind your back. Jacka$$. HAHAHAHA,

Do you require a tic tac or toilet paper no one can tell.

Sorry, never spoke to the man. Don't need to, go offer your wife up, maybe your kid will get some time brown noser hahahaha, what a clown, hi coach, need something coach? Kiss [lacrosse] chump.

Toilet paper it is . Try using a toothbrush , your breath is rancid .

I hope you two get detention

Although not as hideous as some Riverhead girls team are the new ball hog poor sportsmanship team . Make sure you get your numbers against the bad teams girls because against the good ones you can't score . That team is a joke .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Although not as hideous as some Riverhead girls team are the new ball hog poor sportsmanship team . Make sure you get your numbers against the bad teams girls because against the good ones you can't score . That team is a joke .

Why would you expect anything less from that group?

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

You know, it's all about padding those stats! Looks impressive until you look at the opponent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK is a very knowledgeable coach and having seen the attention to detail and the energy he puts forth to train girls, the HT team will have success because, compared to coaches form other schools who may never have even touched a lax stick before, he has done it and makes an effort to actually coach
That being said, he is severely lacking as a person and his scruples are non-existent--just check his record from his past 'real" jobs. The bridges he has burned over the years and the sour taste folks come away with after spending any time with him is well documented.
Are the HT girls forced to practice with Team Elevate warm-ups yet?

Do you think his behavior and bridges burnt are ever a detriment to the girl's recruiting process?

Of course DK and his daughter at Elevate are a detriment to the process. Look at how few girls are getting recruited there. Go back a couple of years and look at the numbers and now look at the numbers. College coaches don't want to deal with them and their antics. The proof is in the numbers.

Its just awful. We have been there for a while now. My daughter is a 2019 and DK and daughter did NOTHING to help her get recruited. We paid for everything. Every clinic, every recruiting seminar, time with Vic, etc. and got NOTHING for our money. I sent my daughter to some college camps and she has interest from a few schools. One of the college coaches said to me "we called/emailed your club director about your daughter and never heard back". I think that says it all. Elevate is just awful. The entire club is a Ponzi scheme and I am not sure who is worse, DK or the daughter!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

They are talking about Riverhead . I am actually surprised at the kids and parents in that team .They know the deal and I would have thought the players and parents of those players would understand sportsmanship and would also be somewhat embarrassed to individually score so many points when they play overmatched opponents .Sadly the parents out there have taught their kids to be the gross ballhog type players their own kids have no respect for .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

No kidding Einstein thanks for the lesson in ball hogging. The person called out 3 ball hogs and a coach...I have a right to ask who they are talking about. By the way if someone has a lot of goals doesnt necessarily mean they are a ball hog. There are plenty of ways to score then just barreling down the field. Dont judge because your little Mary cant get it in the back of the cage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

oh and you forgot to mention- we landed on the Moon!!!

were you serious? obviously it only takes a game or two (versus the several hundred most of us have watched) how ugly and unproductive selfish, non-passing players are to a team. oh and the sun rose in the East this morning too guys...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk D1 if playoffs started today

1-Ward Melville 175.000
2-Middle Country 159.490
3-Smithtown East 157.820
4-Northport 151.290
5-Smithtown West 151.160
6-Sachem North 146.150
7-Riverhead 127.640
8-H H Hills 123.980
9-Huntington 115.960
10-West Islip 105.830
11-Sachem East 105.000

Outside looking in...
12-Commack HS 97.330

Suffolk D1 if playoffs started today

1-Ward Melville 182.320
2-Middle Country 167.680
3-Smithtown East 165.390
4-Smithtown West 151.530
5-Northport 149.240
6-Sachem North 143.850
7-Riverhead 130.980
8-H H Hills 124.820
9-Huntington 115.590
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 98.460

12-Commack HS 97.900

Playing for seed now
SW jumps over Northport

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

No kidding Einstein thanks for the lesson in ball hogging. The person called out 3 ball hogs and a coach...I have a right to ask who they are talking about. By the way if someone has a lot of goals doesnt necessarily mean they are a ball hog. There are plenty of ways to score then just barreling down the field. Dont judge because your little Mary cant get it in the back of the cage.[/quote

Score as many goals in a 20-2 game as you do in a 9-8 game, and nobody will have a problem with you...otherwise its a joke. All riverhead kids have is stats, let them enjoy that, any halfway decent team they played, they got beat by double digits, and thats with the other teams putting in their backups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

Number 1. Who cares? They "All play for WM.

Number 2. They have not taken over anything.

Number 3. Go stir another pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk D1 if playoffs started today

1-Ward Melville 175.000
2-Middle Country 159.490
3-Smithtown East 157.820
4-Northport 151.290
5-Smithtown West 151.160
6-Sachem North 146.150
7-Riverhead 127.640
8-H H Hills 123.980
9-Huntington 115.960
10-West Islip 105.830
11-Sachem East 105.000

Outside looking in...
12-Commack HS 97.330

Suffolk D1 if playoffs started today

1-Ward Melville 182.320
2-Middle Country 167.680
3-Smithtown East 165.390
4-Smithtown West 151.530
5-Northport 149.240
6-Sachem North 143.850
7-Riverhead 130.980
8-H H Hills 124.820
9-Huntington 115.590
10-West Islip 110.000
11-Sachem East 98.460

12-Commack HS 97.900

Playing for seed now
SW jumps over Northport

Did i read that right in the paper today? the 4 seed got beat by 13 goals yesterday? pretty bad conf, b,c and d teams would walk away with a conf.

Same experience -

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

None, they are all Wave and Title 9 girls, now give those clubs some respect(2017 and 2018 are for real)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

No kidding Einstein thanks for the lesson in ball hogging. The person called out 3 ball hogs and a coach...I have a right to ask who they are talking about. By the way if someone has a lot of goals doesnt necessarily mean they are a ball hog. There are plenty of ways to score then just barreling down the field. Dont judge because your little Mary cant get it in the back of the cage.

And there are plenty of ways to ball hog other than just barreling down the field. I think the most resentment seems to be the kids that put up big numbers against obviously overmatched teams as in the Riverhead ,Lindy game. The coaches obviously have no control over their players or parents in these type situations. I don't blame the coaches as much as the parents . No coach wants a few ball hogs lighting it up in lopsided games, the kids themselves all know what they are doing is gross and an embarrassment but mom and dad tell them they better do it so they have a choice , embarrass themselves and be a poor teammate or go home to an angry mom and dad who belittle them if they don't. Not an easy choice for these kids to make but mom and dad are so proud they have pushed their kid to be at the top of the leaderboard, congrats to them on a parenting job well done. I think most parents including myself have been guilty of this to varying degrees but now I am more proud when they are good teammates and show better sportsmanship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

oh and you forgot to mention- we landed on the Moon!!!

were you serious? obviously it only takes a game or two (versus the several hundred most of us have watched) how ugly and unproductive selfish, non-passing players are to a team. oh and the sun rose in the East this morning too guys...

To the point, just checked Newsday game stats. WM scored 17 goals yesterday. 10 were assisted, 11 players scored goals, 13 players had points. One player had four goals and I was told they were all assisted. Not to leave out the kids who play D or the goalie... only for goals against. That looks like a Team effort to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

No kidding Einstein thanks for the lesson in ball hogging. The person called out 3 ball hogs and a coach...I have a right to ask who they are talking about. By the way if someone has a lot of goals doesnt necessarily mean they are a ball hog. There are plenty of ways to score then just barreling down the field. Dont judge because your little Mary cant get it in the back of the cage.[/quote

Score as many goals in a 20-2 game as you do in a 9-8 game, and nobody will have a problem with you...otherwise its a joke. All riverhead kids have is stats, let them enjoy that, any halfway decent team they played, they got beat by double digits, and thats with the other teams putting in their backups.

Wow, what a bitter soul you are. Go get some help.

Looks like unfounded whining again to me! News flash - every high scorer is not a ball hog. A ball hog is someone who plays with their head down and runs to goal with blinders on. Scoring does not look out of line for this team - lots of kids scoring, lots of assists etc. Better kids understand how to get open and have an impact offensively. Those same kids are often the ones running middie and busting their butt all over the field feeding the ball to kids that don't work so hard, struggle to catch and score and turn it over. At the end of the day the coach needs to set the tone on sportsmanship and how much scoring is appropriate (of course parents play a role as well). Despite what is written on this site, I think most coaches do a fairly good job in this area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A-- trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

No kidding Einstein thanks for the lesson in ball hogging. The person called out 3 ball hogs and a coach...I have a right to ask who they are talking about. By the way if someone has a lot of goals doesnt necessarily mean they are a ball hog. There are plenty of ways to score then just barreling down the field. Dont judge because your little Mary cant get it in the back of the cage.

And there are plenty of ways to ball hog other than just barreling down the field. I think the most resentment seems to be the kids that put up big numbers against obviously overmatched teams as in the Riverhead ,Lindy game. The coaches obviously have no control over their players or parents in these type situations. I don't blame the coaches as much as the parents . No coach wants a few ball hogs lighting it up in lopsided games, the kids themselves all know what they are doing is gross and an embarrassment but mom and dad tell them they better do it so they have a choice , embarrass themselves and be a poor teammate or go home to an angry mom and dad who belittle them if they don't. Not an easy choice for these kids to make but mom and dad are so proud they have pushed their kid to be at the top of the leaderboard, congrats to them on a parenting job well done. I think most parents including myself have been guilty of this to varying degrees but now I am more proud when they are good teammates and show better sportsmanship.

Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A-- trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

Great to see a new team having success. Lots of good players and good kids from WM. Hope their success continues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A--
trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

For sure, TG 17 and 18 were prob 0-20 against YJ over the last 5yrs...with not 1 game being close...sounds good though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A--
trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

For sure, TG 17 and 18 were prob 0-20 against YJ over the last 5yrs...with not 1 game being close...sounds good though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A-- trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

WM parents not fans of the YJ organization looks like it was a wise choice for them, as they look to be the big girl champs this year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

No kidding Einstein thanks for the lesson in ball hogging. The person called out 3 ball hogs and a coach...I have a right to ask who they are talking about. By the way if someone has a lot of goals doesnt necessarily mean they are a ball hog. There are plenty of ways to score then just barreling down the field. Dont judge because your little Mary cant get it in the back of the cage.

And there are plenty of ways to ball hog other than just barreling down the field. I think the most resentment seems to be the kids that put up big numbers against obviously overmatched teams as in the Riverhead ,Lindy game. The coaches obviously have no control over their players or parents in these type situations. I don't blame the coaches as much as the parents . No coach wants a few ball hogs lighting it up in lopsided games, the kids themselves all know what they are doing is gross and an embarrassment but mom and dad tell them they better do it so they have a choice , embarrass themselves and be a poor teammate or go home to an angry mom and dad who belittle them if they don't. Not an easy choice for these kids to make but mom and dad are so proud they have pushed their kid to be at the top of the leaderboard, congrats to them on a parenting job well done. I think most parents including myself have been guilty of this to varying degrees but now I am more proud when they are good teammates and show better sportsmanship.

Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense.

Riverhead is a very young team that starts a lot of Freshman and Sophomores.They have definitely been overmatched by a couple of schools like Ward Melville and Middle Country, like most teams have this year, but overall they have shown a lot of improvement and have some good wins too. The three top girls do a lot of scoring but they are deeper than just the three girls. A lot of goals are scored against the weaker teams and it does help their stats, but that happens on a lot of teams a combination of coaching and ballhogging. Looking at yesterdays game they had 18 goals scored by 8 girls with 11 assists. That doesn't seem out of line with what goes on against teams like that, doesn't look any different than the boxscore from the ward Melville 16-2 game against Lindenhurst the other day. Just a couple of years ago teams did the same to Riverhead.

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

How about against obviously overmatched teams get other kids on your team involved you moron. Do you really need to put up big points in a 18 goal blowout, other than for your own ego. As far as the Riverhead team scoring against good teams , not really , they score when the good teams put in their backups which is exactly why you would think those players ,parents, coaches would get the idea of pulling it back a little against overmatched teams. Just because a player can score 10 goals in an overmatched game does not mean they should, even a dope like you sees that they cannot score against teams that actually have a defense. I would bet the team chemistry must be great over at Riverhead .I know a few kids on that team who were descent players who have quit the team because of the ball hogs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see a new team having success. Lots of good players and good kids from WM. Hope their success continues.

Um, waaaay too positive for here. Admin: please delete this post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see a new team having success. Lots of good players and good kids from WM. Hope their success continues.

Um, waaaay too positive for here. Admin: please delete this post.

Now that is funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

How about against obviously overmatched teams get other kids on your team involved you moron. Do you really need to put up big points in a 18 goal blowout, other than for your own ego. As far as the Riverhead team scoring against good teams , not really , they score when the good teams put in their backups which is exactly why you would think those players ,parents, coaches would get the idea of pulling it back a little against overmatched teams. Just because a player can score 10 goals in an overmatched game does not mean they should, even a dope like you sees that they cannot score against teams that actually have a defense. I would bet the team chemistry must be great over at Riverhead .I know a few kids on that team who were descent players who have quit the team because of the ball hogs.

I guarantee you that the mediocre players cannot score against the weak teams either. You think its so easy to score. Youve probably never played a sport in your life. Oh and its not nice to call people names though its easy to do so you do it??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A--
trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

For sure, TG 17 and 18 were prob 0-20 against YJ over the last 5yrs...with not 1 game being close...sounds good though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A-- trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

WM parents not fans of the YJ organization looks like it was a wise choice for them, as they look to be the big girl champs this year!

Fans or not fans, nobody cares about summer BS. WM parents for the most part have done a pretty good job by Not posting on this site. Please don't start now, leave the nonsense to the jealous haters and the trolls who like to stir the pot. Games will be played on the field and there are many more that need to be played. Be happy for the girls but please do not contribute to the negative chatter. Guaranteed it was not a WM parent who brought up the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A--
trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

For sure, TG 17 and 18 were prob 0-20 against YJ over the last 5yrs...with not 1 game being close...sounds good though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A-- trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

WM parents not fans of the YJ organization looks like it was a wise choice for them, as they look to be the big girl champs this year!

And TG parents not fans of the WM parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A--
trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

For sure, TG 17 and 18 were prob 0-20 against YJ over the last 5yrs...with not 1 game being close...sounds good though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A-- trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

WM parents not fans of the YJ organization looks like it was a wise choice for them, as they look to be the big girl champs this year!

They easily beat the MC team that's full of YJ studs, interesting

12-11 is "easily beat"?
And there are also top gun players on MC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A--
trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

For sure, TG 17 and 18 were prob 0-20 against YJ over the last 5yrs...with not 1 game being close...sounds good though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville girls taking over in Suffolk A. How many of those girls are YJ players?

WM is having a good year, their 1st in the last 40yrs and they cant post enough...take it slow...

Actually, not many posts at all. I do not believe the post asking how many play for YJ came from a WM parent. Just another Jack A-- trying to stir the pot. Im sure the hatters will come out in full force if they continue to have success.

No YJ players of impact there, TG girls dominating the Suffolk A

WM parents not fans of the YJ organization looks like it was a wise choice for them, as they look to be the big girl champs this year!

They easily beat the MC team that's full of YJ studs, interesting [/quote]

This is MC last year to win it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

How about against obviously overmatched teams get other kids on your team involved you moron. Do you really need to put up big points in a 18 goal blowout, other than for your own ego. As far as the Riverhead team scoring against good teams , not really , they score when the good teams put in their backups which is exactly why you would think those players ,parents, coaches would get the idea of pulling it back a little against overmatched teams. Just because a player can score 10 goals in an overmatched game does not mean they should, even a dope like you sees that they cannot score against teams that actually have a defense. I would bet the team chemistry must be great over at Riverhead .I know a few kids on that team who were descent players who have quit the team because of the ball hogs.

Disgruntled parents are in every program. Riverhead has been a bad team for years, your "decent" players probably left because of playing time not because of ball hogging, if they were ever decent at all. Now they are winning some games and we hear they've lost talent? Coaches don't let decent talent walk, especially on a team with no depth like Riverhead. That team is good enough to win some games, maybe even make the playoffs, but won't ever be able to compete with the better teams, so score your goals while you can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

How about against obviously overmatched teams get other kids on your team involved you moron. Do you really need to put up big points in a 18 goal blowout, other than for your own ego. As far as the Riverhead team scoring against good teams , not really , they score when the good teams put in their backups which is exactly why you would think those players ,parents, coaches would get the idea of pulling it back a little against overmatched teams. Just because a player can score 10 goals in an overmatched game does not mean they should, even a dope like you sees that they cannot score against teams that actually have a defense. I would bet the team chemistry must be great over at Riverhead .I know a few kids on that team who were descent players who have quit the team because of the ball hogs.

Why can't anybody on this site spell the word decent? There is no "s" in it.
(Sorry, pet peeve - rant over.)

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

So you think teams should score as much as possible no matter the level of competition, makes you seem like a loser . Go look at the most recent games of the top teams in Suffolk in every division A,B,C,D, each played non competitive games , each spread the scoring out , none of these teams let ball hog players pad their stats . The Riverhead girls are average at best and would not be able to score against those top teams previously mentioned so they pad their stats against weak competition ,it's sad .

Does it go all division, all conference and then all county? And who determines this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it go all division, all conference and then all county? And who determines this

politics and stat padders. Far too many defenders are left off list every year. That's why we play what is known as a selfish me first game

In Suffolk there is All-Division (same as all-league) then All County. Coaches association has an end of year meeting where they vote for awards. Each team is allotted a certain amount based on how they placed at the end of regular season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it go all division, all conference and then all county? And who determines this

Your coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

So you think teams should score as much as possible no matter the level of competition, makes you seem like a loser . Go look at the most recent games of the top teams in Suffolk in every division A,B,C,D, each played non competitive games , each spread the scoring out , none of these teams let ball hog players pad their stats . The Riverhead girls are average at best and would not be able to score against those top teams previously mentioned so they pad their stats against weak competition ,it's sad .

Why are you so obsessed with how many goals other girls have. Worry about your own daughter. And no, I am not a loser. Please don't call people names.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it go all division, all conference and then all county? And who determines this

politics and stat padders. Far too many defenders are left off list every year. That's why we play what is known as a selfish me first game

If your daughter is that good she will be noticed and recognized for her talent. If she's not maybe she is not as good as mommy & daddy thinks. Its not all politics but as long as you keep thinking that and telling your daughter that she'll never get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it go all division, all conference and then all county? And who determines this

politics and stat padders. Far too many defenders are left off list every year. That's why we play what is known as a selfish me first game

If your daughter is that good she will be noticed and recognized for her talent. If she's not maybe she is not as good as mommy & daddy thinks. Its not all politics but as long as you keep thinking that and telling your daughter that she'll never get better.

It's not all politics, but if you don't think there is favoritism, nepotism and politics involved, you're naive. That shouldn't take away from the talented girls who earn awards, but some girls get cheated and some girls receive awards on reputation rather than that season's achievements

I know its only NEWSDAY, but i am sure its like this in any major lax area,,,but kids and parents do get a kick out of seeing their names in paper next day...wouldn't it be nice to credit defenders in blurbs about the games?
As previous poster mentioned, kids play selfish when they are looking to get name in paper next day.Sounds trivial, but for teenage boys/girls, its a big deal.
A mention of how well a defender played or how big a stop the defense made to win a game w/b a nice thing o see once in a a while.
Instead we get "Mary Jones led the scoring with 8 goals, ..or "Susie Smith had 4 goals and 3 assists"..

Ok here it is. Mary ran around all game with her stick in the air yelling ball. At one point she scooped a ground ball which she immediately passed to the goalie(she did this once this game,but twice last). She gets the defensive star of the game for yelling ball the loudest. Congrats Mary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not all politics, but if you don't think there is favoritism, nepotism and politics involved, you're naive. That shouldn't take away from the talented girls who earn awards, but some girls get cheated and some girls receive awards on reputation rather than that season's achievements

This is the truth. I've seen it happen too often. The coaches wheel and deal behind the scenes too.

Coaches should recognize the players who had a meaningful impact on the game and they should share the spotlight and credit whenever they can. I agree that in many cases it should be draw control, ground balls, a great defensive effort or goal-keeping that should be highlighted. It is not done enough in my opinion.

As a mother of a high school defender I agree, just once it would be nice to be recognized.She works very hard as I'm sure many do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

So you think teams should score as much as possible no matter the level of competition, makes you seem like a loser . Go look at the most recent games of the top teams in Suffolk in every division A,B,C,D, each played non competitive games , each spread the scoring out , none of these teams let ball hog players pad their stats . The Riverhead girls are average at best and would not be able to score against those top teams previously mentioned so they pad their stats against weak competition ,it's sad .

Why are you so obsessed with how many goals other girls have. Worry about your own daughter. And no, I am not a loser. Please don't call people names.

I am not obsessed with how many goals any individual has, poor sportsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. If a team outscored an overmatched opponent by more than 20 I generally have an issue ,if in a blowout an individual puts up an unnecessary amount of points I have an issue with that. My kid lays on a sub par team and regularly gets blown out by 20, its gets real old watching a few ball hogs on the other team score over and over. Get your lead put your back ups in and if they score so be it but to leave your starters or have a few ball hogs run up their numbers is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok here it is. Mary ran around all game with her stick in the air yelling ball. At one point she scooped a ground ball which she immediately passed to the goalie(she did this once this game,but twice last). She gets the defensive star of the game for yelling ball the loudest. Congrats Mary.

So that's it in a nutshell for you on how big an impact defense has in a game, in your sarcastic opinion?
Wow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok here it is. Mary ran around all game with her stick in the air yelling ball. At one point she scooped a ground ball which she immediately passed to the goalie(she did this once this game,but twice last). She gets the defensive star of the game for yelling ball the loudest. Congrats Mary.

Nice attempt to stir the pot, child.

pot stirring?..not so sure with a comment like that....you just know he is that loony Dad on sideline yelling for his little princess to 'go to goal" every time she has the ball....
then sits on his hands and keeps deathly silent when the defense makes nice play or someone other than princess puts one in..
that is why ladies lax is so selfish....folks like the above taint wipe ..

The problem with MSG varsity stats is that they are reported by the winning teams coach. Now that coach may have a injured player that really doesn't care who did what in the game especially the other team so the stats are frequently wrong. Now if your coach is lucky enough to have a booster club that pays someone to do it for the team then it all depends on if they take the time to mark down caused turn overs or ground balls. They should also keep stats on how many 8m penalties a player commits. Msg also sometimes doubles the points so please don't think that that is the official stat record for the season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

pot stirring?..not so sure with a comment like that....you just know he is that loony Dad on sideline yelling for his little princess to 'go to goal" every time she has the ball....
then sits on his hands and keeps deathly silent when the defense makes nice play or someone other than princess puts one in..
that is why ladies lax is so selfish....folks like the above taint wipe ..

Just the typical parent who knows nothing about the sport. If he really understood lacrosse he would understand that defense will win games. The most important part of lacrosse today is midfielders playing defense. Transition lacrosse, shut down the offense with the ride, win the game. Simple, for those who know the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

pot stirring?..not so sure with a comment like that....you just know he is that loony Dad on sideline yelling for his little princess to 'go to goal" every time she has the ball....
then sits on his hands and keeps deathly silent when the defense makes nice play or someone other than princess puts one in..
that is why ladies lax is so selfish....folks like the above taint wipe ..

Just the typical parent who knows nothing about the sport. If he really understood lacrosse he would understand that defense will win games. The most important part of lacrosse today is midfielders playing defense. Transition lacrosse, shut down the offense with the ride, win the game. Simple, for those who know the game.

And middies who can play defense are gold yet few and far between.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem with MSG varsity stats is that they are reported by the winning teams coach. Now that coach may have a injured player that really doesn't care who did what in the game especially the other team so the stats are frequently wrong. Now if your coach is lucky enough to have a booster club that pays someone to do it for the team then it all depends on if they take the time to mark down caused turn overs or ground balls. They should also keep stats on how many 8m penalties a player commits. Msg also sometimes doubles the points so please don't think that that is the official stat record for the season.

Why is everybody so concerned about stats, look at he the Nassau stat leaders, only one girl plays in the power conference where it really counts. The rest would not have 1/4 of those points if they played in that conference. Stats are irrelevant watch the game and you will see!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it go all division, all conference and then all county? And who determines this

Your coach

It's team coach and then opposing coaches. It's a give and take. Depending on how well (or poorly) the team did, the team is then only entitled to a certain number of selections for each award.

Come on the guy is right. Besides the game is unwatchable. Who would ever play a position that can go an entire game without touching the ball. But great award Mary. BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

It's a tough position trying to cover the best athletes on the field. Is it true the worst field players and the players that can not run become goalies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a mother of a high school defender I agree, just once it would be nice to be recognized.She works very hard as I'm sure many do.

We know who this mom is. Her poor daughter never gets any credit or recognition. We know we know everybodys been hearing it for years

When do the seedings and brackets come out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

So you think teams should score as much as possible no matter the level of competition, makes you seem like a loser . Go look at the most recent games of the top teams in Suffolk in every division A,B,C,D, each played non competitive games , each spread the scoring out , none of these teams let ball hog players pad their stats . The Riverhead girls are average at best and would not be able to score against those top teams previously mentioned so they pad their stats against weak competition ,it's sad .

Why are you so obsessed with how many goals other girls have. Worry about your own daughter. And no, I am not a loser. Please don't call people names.

I am not obsessed with how many goals any individual has, poor sportsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. If a team outscored an overmatched opponent by more than 20 I generally have an issue ,if in a blowout an individual puts up an unnecessary amount of points I have an issue with that. My kid lays on a sub par team and regularly gets blown out by 20, its gets real old watching a few ball hogs on the other team score over and over. Get your lead put your back ups in and if they score so be it but to leave your starters or have a few ball hogs run up their numbers is ridiculous.

What if that ball hog won the draw, worked her butt of getting the ground balls and got knocked down a few times in the meantime?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

So you think teams should score as much as possible no matter the level of competition, makes you seem like a loser . Go look at the most recent games of the top teams in Suffolk in every division A,B,C,D, each played non competitive games , each spread the scoring out , none of these teams let ball hog players pad their stats . The Riverhead girls are average at best and would not be able to score against those top teams previously mentioned so they pad their stats against weak competition ,it's sad .

Why are you so obsessed with how many goals other girls have. Worry about your own daughter. And no, I am not a loser. Please don't call people names.

I am not obsessed with how many goals any individual has, poor sportsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. If a team outscored an overmatched opponent by more than 20 I generally have an issue ,if in a blowout an individual puts up an unnecessary amount of points I have an issue with that. My kid lays on a sub par team and regularly gets blown out by 20, its gets real old watching a few ball hogs on the other team score over and over. Get your lead put your back ups in and if they score so be it but to leave your starters or have a few ball hogs run up their numbers is ridiculous.

What if that ball hog won the draw, worked her butt of getting the ground balls and got knocked down a few times in the meantime?

Ball hog is a ball hog. Not every player who scores a lot of goals is a ball hog. Everybody except the player and the players parents knows the difference. Some coaches apparently can't tell the difference either.

Selfish players will almost always hurt their team. The worst part about it is the player and the parents do not care. As long as they score goals everything is okay. The parents are usually non athletes or maybe played something in HS but thats about it. They do not understand the game so the only thing they can recognize is a goal. Selfish play is easy to spot and ugly to watch and is detrimental to the team.

There are some really great players who happen to score a lot of goals. They are not all ball hog. There are also some very selfish players who try to go to the goal as soon as they get the ball. They sometimes score a lot of goals but they are far from being good players. Worse than the standard run of the mill ball hog is the lazy player who also happens to be a ball hog. Start watching players when they do not have the ball. Watch them on both ends of the field. Watch them redefend. Watch when they are off ball (on offense and defense). Watch the effort, watch the communication, watch how they work and help their team. Then watch the ones who loaf around and wait for the ball. Watch the ones who start running with the ball every time they get it even when they should be passing. Watch the ones who try to run through three girls. It is easy to spot the ball hogs.
Good coaches will not put up with it. Bad coaches don't know what to do.

If your team has them good luck to you because the odds are that they will cost you when it matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

So you think teams should score as much as possible no matter the level of competition, makes you seem like a loser . Go look at the most recent games of the top teams in Suffolk in every division A,B,C,D, each played non competitive games , each spread the scoring out , none of these teams let ball hog players pad their stats . The Riverhead girls are average at best and would not be able to score against those top teams previously mentioned so they pad their stats against weak competition ,it's sad .

Why are you so obsessed with how many goals other girls have. Worry about your own daughter. And no, I am not a loser. Please don't call people names.

I am not obsessed with how many goals any individual has, poor sportsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. If a team outscored an overmatched opponent by more than 20 I generally have an issue ,if in a blowout an individual puts up an unnecessary amount of points I have an issue with that. My kid lays on a sub par team and regularly gets blown out by 20, its gets real old watching a few ball hogs on the other team score over and over. Get your lead put your back ups in and if they score so be it but to leave your starters or have a few ball hogs run up their numbers is ridiculous.

What if that ball hog won the draw, worked her butt of getting the ground balls and got knocked down a few times in the meantime?

Ball hog is a ball hog. Not every player who scores a lot of goals is a ball hog. Everybody except the player and the players parents knows the difference. Some coaches apparently can't tell the difference either.

Selfish players will almost always hurt their team. The worst part about it is the player and the parents do not care. As long as they score goals everything is okay. The parents are usually non athletes or maybe played something in HS but thats about it. They do not understand the game so the only thing they can recognize is a goal. Selfish play is easy to spot and ugly to watch and is detrimental to the team.

There are some really great players who happen to score a lot of goals. They are not all ball hog. There are also some very selfish players who try to go to the goal as soon as they get the ball. They sometimes score a lot of goals but they are far from being good players. Worse than the standard run of the mill ball hog is the lazy player who also happens to be a ball hog. Start watching players when they do not have the ball. Watch them on both ends of the field. Watch them redefend. Watch when they are off ball (on offense and defense). Watch the effort, watch the communication, watch how they work and help their team. Then watch the ones who loaf around and wait for the ball. Watch the ones who start running with the ball every time they get it even when they should be passing. Watch the ones who try to run through three girls. It is easy to spot the ball hogs.
Good coaches will not put up with it. Bad coaches don't know what to do.

If your team has them good luck to you because the odds are that they will cost you when it matters.

You described this perfectly especially about what ball hogs do off ball. I played in college and this is hardest type of player to watch or play with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a mother of a high school defender I agree, just once it would be nice to be recognized.She works very hard as I'm sure many do.

We know who this mom is. Her poor daughter never gets any credit or recognition. We know we know everybodys been hearing it for years

I was that mom too. I know how you feel.

And to the person who said the worst athletes (I'm paraphrasing) become goalies, maybe that's true in elementary school but is not at all true as the girls get older. No, my child is not a goalie. But if you can't move then you aren't much of a keeper.

Defense is its own skill set. My daughter now plays D in college and anyone with an experienced eye can see who the "true" defenders are versus who got moved back or is a middie coming back to defend. Those are the players that get beat time and again. They don't see the roll or the dodge coming, they have a tough time anticipating a slide (or even sliding, period), they don't see the open player, and they often get frustrated and then the hacks and pushes come. Everybody has a role to play. I once spoke to a dad I know whose daughter was a nationally recognized attacker and he told me "anyone can be a defender, you just have to stand there." I was flummoxed. That was so patently untrue and showed his bias toward the offense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on the guy is right. Besides the game is unwatchable. Who would ever play a position that can go an entire game without touching the ball. But great award Mary. BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

Like a football linebacker or defensive back???

I'm sure your daughter is fantastic, but can little Suzy handle not scoring? Do you not buy her a Slurpee like you used to when she scored a goal in PAL? Sad she needs the recognition of scoring a goal to validate herself in your eyes, doesn't get it enough at home or through her school work. That's why defenders are the most stable, well-grounded, kids on the team. Their self-esteem isn't validated by goals scored and dad's reaction to it. They understand the reward of hard work. What's going to happen when lacrosse ends, where will she turn with her esteem issues? Scary......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a tough position trying to cover the best athletes on the field. Is it true the worst field players and the players that can not run become goalies.

If you think being a goalie is just for the fat, slow, untalented kids than your toe fat slow untalented parent that never played a sport and was in a Glee club, and now you come on this thread because your kid might have some athletic ability in spite of your lack of it, and criticize real athletes. Gear up your little super star and see if she can face a 75-80 mph shot, or will she duck and run like most. Lets see if super Suzie can face down a girl 8 meters away and make a save. Can youShannon tell when a girl is going to go BTB and adjust and save. your a pathetic loser and like most of the "Super Stars" your kid will be sitting on the bench , hoping to see some field time by her sop year in college

You learn at an early age if you are athletic,talented and can run the field. For the weaker ones,they become defenders.where else do you hide them.And for the real weak.Goalie.

I have never seen or heard of the most talented ,athletic or fast girls deciding they want to be goalie.My daughter will never sit the bench.Worse comes to worse she will become a defender.BALL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You learn at an early age if you are athletic,talented and can run the field. For the weaker ones,they become defenders.where else do you hide them.And for the real weak.Goalie.

Wow.....dumbest post I've seen in a long time. The weak players play defense????? So lets look at the facts.... Playing 1v1 in girls lax is probably the hardest thing in girls lax. The officials call virtually every foul against the defenders despite the athletic/talented players running into double/triple teams, charging to goal etc. Your uninformed stupid post justifies that you are an a$$ hat.

Sorry, never put a week player on derfense, you will never win a tough game with week defenders.!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You learn at an early age if you are athletic,talented and can run the field. For the weaker ones,they become defenders.where else do you hide them.And for the real weak.Goalie.

Haha! Some truth to that. Think back to Pal when you had to force kids to play goalie. My daughter would throw a tantrum when banished to defense! But, it does take a village, to make a great lax team!

I was always told,if something bothers you it is either true or a complete lie.If you are calling me a liar so be it.But if your daughter was a stud she wouldn't be playing d.Ballllllll.Now that's a fact Jill.

Dude, you're like 12 right? BAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL, go hug your daughter jack@ss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You learn at an early age if you are athletic,talented and can run the field. For the weaker ones,they become defenders.where else do you hide them.And for the real weak.Goalie.

Haha! Some truth to that. Think back to Pal when you had to force kids to play goalie. My daughter would throw a tantrum when banished to defense! But, it does take a village, to make a great lax team!

When my daughter gets put on defense on her travel team (8th grade), which is a very competitive A team, she knows she's not playing well and is being "punished".

I have been coaching girls lacrosse for a decade and I can tell you from first hand knowledge that you build a team from the goal out. I hide my weaker players on attack.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was always told,if something bothers you it is either true or a complete lie.If you are calling me a liar so be it.But if your daughter was a stud she wouldn't be playing d.Ballllllll.Now that's a fact Jill.

Here's a fact, Jack. If your stud had to play D she would get crushed and her team would hate her for letting so many offensive players go past her.

Offense wins games, defense wins championships.

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You learn at an early age if you are athletic,talented and can run the field. For the weaker ones,they become defenders.where else do you hide them.And for the real weak.Goalie.

Far from it you put your best athletes on D

That why the game blows. Your best athletes dont touch the ball and when they do, its a hot potatoe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have never seen or heard of the most talented ,athletic or fast girls deciding they want to be goalie.My daughter will never sit the bench.Worse comes to worse she will become a defender.BALL.

Seeing as your the top [lacrosse] hat on this site, lets hit you with some facts. 2015 call in college today (sops) only three left in the top tier from L.I...... Middle from Mt. Saint on Fla. Attacker from 'set also on Fla. Goalie from SWR on N.D. who chose to be a goalie.... All the rest...... just like your daughter....... on the bench hoping for time. Oh and by the way.... the best 2016 from L.I.is a defender also at Fla., the highly touted attacker from USC is a bust and will be on the bench as a role player by Jr. year, just like your kid will be a s a frosh. goal scorers are a dime a dozen. I can get a 6 year old to score a goal in lacrosse, to stop a goal takes talent.

The anchor of WMD is a YJ! WM has girls from 3 different travel clubs! the difference is they are playing as a team! They don't care who scores or what position they are in as long as they WIN!!! So stop the BS!

Best player on mid, try to get a mobile quick goalie, put the small kid in there coach! Defense should be an aggressive girl who is okay with penalties, because she's going to get a few, attack, well as long as they can catch and pass that works

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have never seen or heard of the most talented ,athletic or fast girls deciding they want to be goalie.My daughter will never sit the bench.Worse comes to worse she will become a defender.BALL.

Seeing as your the top [lacrosse] hat on this site, lets hit you with some facts. 2015 call in college today (sops) only three left in the top tier from L.I...... Middle from Mt. Saint on Fla. Attacker from 'set also on Fla. Goalie from SWR on N.D. who chose to be a goalie.... All the rest...... just like your daughter....... on the bench hoping for time. Oh and by the way.... the best 2016 from L.I.is a defender also at Fla., the highly touted attacker from USC is a bust and will be on the bench as a role player by Jr. year, just like your kid will be a s a frosh. goal scorers are a dime a dozen. I can get a 6 year old to score a goal in lacrosse, to stop a goal takes talent.

The best 2016 from LI is still playing on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

Maybe your daughter can yell assssss hattttttttt instead of balllllll. Listen its been fun debating you. Go watch the unwatchable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a tough position trying to cover the best athletes on the field. Is it true the worst field players and the players that can not run become goalies.

The best Athletes on the field 80% of the time are your midfielders. The black hole who can score a million goals couldn't run up and down the field 3x in a row before she would ask to be subbed out. That's why she only has to run 5-10 yds at a time in her little space before the midfielders again have to run 60 yds the other way when she misses. Also if your team doesn't get the ball, your princess would not be scoring. The draw and girls on the circle are the team MVP's, Then the defense. It's pretty easy to put that little ball in that big net.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

It is "it's" not its...carry on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

It is "it's" not its...carry on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

It is "it's" not its...carry on

Just got off of Newsday's website. Checking out the leaderboards. So proud of my daughter! Wait... where's your daughter? Oops sorry not listed she's defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just got off of Newsday's website. Checking out the leaderboards. So proud of my daughter! Wait... where's your daughter? Oops sorry not listed she's defense.

And your point is? That defense doesn't get the recognition they deserve? I'm sure that's it. The only reason your daughter is on the leaderboard is because my daughter caused the turnover and got her the ball. Give it a rest. It's a team sport. Everyone has a role to play and no one's role is more important than another.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

It is "it's" not its...carry on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

It is "it's" not its...carry on

Just got off of Newsday's website. Checking out the leaderboards. So proud of my daughter! Wait... where's your daughter? Oops sorry not listed she's defense.

Proud of my daughters team, playoff bound, wait, your seasons over, sorry stat leader on a crappy team! Enjoy the Newsday article it's all she will ever have to remember lacrosse. Certainly none of her teammates can stand such a self centered little brat, scoring over winning, ahhhh, daddy's princess!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

It is "it's" not its...carry on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a [lacrosse] or a coach who has no understanding of the game or of athletics in general would put a week athlete on D. The only place to hide a week athlete on a lacrosse field is attack. The only parents who think it all about offense and scoring goals are the non athlete type who know nothing of competitive sports. A coach who puts week athletes on D will not win many championships. The parents who do not value defense worry more about how many goals their kid scores than they do about how the TEAM does.

Its weak not week...carry on

It is "it's" not its...carry on

Just got off of Newsday's website. Checking out the leaderboards. So proud of my daughter! Wait... where's your daughter? Oops sorry not listed she's defense.

Proud of my daughters team, playoff bound, wait, your seasons over, sorry stat leader on a crappy team! Enjoy the Newsday article it's all she will ever have to remember lacrosse. Certainly none of her teammates can stand such a self centered little brat, scoring over winning, ahhhh, daddy's princess!

Wow - You idiots do NOT represent the majority of adults who do not feel the need to argue who is better than who. You need people to put the ball in the back of the net and you need people to keep the ball OUT of the net. SHUT UP and stop making our lacrosse community look like a bunch of assholes that you two are acting like!

I would hasten to bet that NO ONE outside the lacrosse community goes on BOTC, but I may be wrong.

Congratulations and good luck to all the teams that made playoffs! I hope everyone stays healthy and enjoys the last month of lacrosse!sS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You learn at an early age if you are athletic,talented and can run the field. For the weaker ones,they become defenders.where else do you hide them.And for the real weak.Goalie.

Haha! Some truth to that. Think back to Pal when you had to force kids to play goalie. My daughter would throw a tantrum when banished to defense! But, it does take a village, to make a great lax team!

"Banished to Defense". No wonder your daughter had a "tantrum". Nice parenting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You learn at an early age if you are athletic,talented and can run the field. For the weaker ones,they become defenders.where else do you hide them.And for the real weak.Goalie.

Haha! Some truth to that. Think back to Pal when you had to force kids to play goalie. My daughter would throw a tantrum when banished to defense! But, it does take a village, to make a great lax team!

When my daughter gets put on defense on her travel team (8th grade), which is a very competitive A team, she knows she's not playing well and is being "punished".

Wow, I would love it if my daughter's very competitive A team played your daughter's team. Punishing the underperforming players by trying to hide them on defense sounds like a good opportunity for our slow attackers to get some ball placement practice in. And our middies would have a good time working on their trapping during their rides since your underperformers are not motivated enough to do an organized clear and will probably try to run the ball up to prove that they can go back to their attack positions. That sounds like a perfect tune up prior to the summer tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations and good luck to all the teams that made playoffs! I hope everyone stays healthy and enjoys the last month of lacrosse!sS

You do know that this is BOTC?...kind, complimentary, uplifting comments on this sight are generally frowned upon..
But thanks for keeping it real...

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

The best way to tune up is to have your daughter run around the house and you blow a whistle every 10 seconds. Thats how you prepare for your summer tournaments. Remember its a game with no flow, the attack is to slow, and the defenses stick skills blow. Have a great season yelling at the refs and talking about your coaches behind their backs.I would rather stick a hot poker in my eye then do this another season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The anchor of WMD is a YJ! WM has girls from 3 different travel clubs! the difference is they are playing as a team! They don't care who scores or what position they are in as long as they WIN!!! So stop the BS!

Don't even respond to this, no one cares who is YJ or who is TG on WM. Stop already. I hope you are not from WM especially there is no anchor, it is team defense.

Does anybody know the Nassau seeding?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know the Nassau seeding?

try looking on the sec 8 web site.

Nassau A Wed, B Wed, C Thur, D Thur
no seedings up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations and good luck to all the teams that made playoffs! I hope everyone stays healthy and enjoys the last month of lacrosse!sS

You do know that this is BOTC?...kind, complimentary, uplifting comments on this sight are generally frowned upon..
But thanks for keeping it real...

As an example, it's "site" you dumb [lacrosse]!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Lynbrook girls lax no respect, best player on the island

C playoffs from Brent Musburger in Vegas

Only slight upset is Lynbrook over SS otherwise all the higher seeds win the early rounds. With the new divisions, CSH finally has to play some teams to get another championship. Look for them to upset Wantagh in the finals.

Round 1
PE over Division by +5
Lynbrook over Hewlett by +8
Seaford over FP +3
LV over Bethpage +5

In A Massapequa is best but has been up and down
In B GC has an easy run over LB and a down year in Manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook girls lax no respect, best player on the island

Lynbrooks next BIG win will be their first

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations and good luck to all the teams that made playoffs! I hope everyone stays healthy and enjoys the last month of lacrosse!sS

You do know that this is BOTC?...kind, complimentary, uplifting comments on this sight are generally frowned upon..
But thanks for keeping it real...

As an example, it's "site" you dumb [lacrosse]!

Yep..you are right..apologies for the spelling error. I had left my eyeglasses on the end table in your bedroom yest so I had trouble seeing key-board.
But tell your wife I will swing by later to pick them up. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations and good luck to all the teams that made playoffs! I hope everyone stays healthy and enjoys the last month of lacrosse!sS

You do know that this is BOTC?...kind, complimentary, uplifting comments on this sight are generally frowned upon..
But thanks for keeping it real...

laughed out loud

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook girls lax no respect, best player on the island

Very subjective opinion, could argue she is not even the best player in her conference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook girls lax no respect, best player on the island

Very subjective opinion, could argue she is not even the best player in her conference

Great player and great kid...lets leave it at that...

How does Lynbrook get no respect? Looks to me like they got the #5 seed and lost to the #4 seed who are in the same conference. As for the player she is good but not close to the best. Just because you have points, it doesn't make you the best. People could then argue she is the biggest ball hog on the island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook girls lax no respect, best player on the island

Very subjective opinion, could argue she is not even the best player in her conference

If she helps her team beat Southside in the playoffs after losing in the regular season that will say something. Me first doesn't win in the playoffs that's why GC, Manhasset, CSH, Wantagh don't have anyone in the top 10.

These are the stat leaders schools Lynbrook, Carey, Wheatley, Division, Hewlett, Southside, Floral Park, Clarke Plainedge all schools that might have the occasional exceptional athlete but if the object is to win championships and you need a total team to do that which non of these schools ever have

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook girls lax no respect, best player on the island

Very subjective opinion, could argue she is not even the best player in her conference

If she helps her team beat Southside in the playoffs after losing in the regular season that will say something. Me first doesn't win in the playoffs that's why GC, Manhasset, CSH, Wantagh don't have anyone in the top 10.

These are the stat leaders schools Lynbrook, Carey, Wheatley, Division, Hewlett, Southside, Floral Park, Clarke Plainedge all schools that might have the occasional exceptional athlete but if the object is to win championships and you need a total team to do that which non of these schools ever have

The reason those teams don't have anyone in the top ten is because they play each other and other real lacrosse teams, but they all have players who are just as good if not better. To be the best you have to make players around you better, stats never tell the whole story.

They have no chance to beat south side and south side is not really that good.

D team played some of those stat leader teams, easy enough to shut down the stat hog, game is over. A well run defensive mindset team can easily disrupt the ball hog. Isn't rocket science.

The highest scoring kid on d team cradled illegally in sphere, went in drew the foul, more than 3/4 of her goals were free positions from illegal cradling refs never called. Points/goals NEVER tell the best player on a team.

Agree, girls not on stat boards on very good teams, many shadowed one on one every game. Looks like stat leaders on low conference teams and in many occasions coach did not sub out and allowed padding.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, girls not on stat boards on very good teams, many shadowed one on one every game. Looks like stat leaders on low conference teams and in many occasions coach did not sub out and allowed padding.

...or it looks like someone has stat envy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree, girls not on stat boards on very good teams, many shadowed one on one every game. Looks like stat leaders on low conference teams and in many occasions coach did not sub out and allowed padding.

Stat padding is always on bad teams, with bad coaching, and usually the bad parents that say GO TO GOAL!

No horse in this race, simple facts even you can look up. Now go tell your precious pumpkin to keep going to goal

Any thoughts on Farmingdale v Oceanside and Port Washington b Hicksville?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on Farmingdale v Oceanside and Port Washington b Hicksville?

2 beatings. Oceanside and PW win easy

As the playoffs come around I think some teams that are usually the best may struggle...2016 girls really played a big role for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on Farmingdale v Oceanside and Port Washington b Hicksville?

2 beatings. Oceanside and PW win easy

farmingdale is terrible with a highly overated coach

You mean coaches

Farmingdale has always had a great feeder program but the coaches their are just like the YJ's dump out the ball bag and let the great players do their thing. In years like this where they needed some coaching help to raise their game they failed. Kind of feels like Notre Dame and Florida doesn't it?

Oceanside is no great deal. I see this as pick em. Sailors lost to Lynbrook and had some other games that showed they were rightfully placed in conference 2

You HIDE you weak girls on Attack. Toughest thing to do in Women's Lax is playing defense. This coming from someone who's daughter is a mid-fielder.

You attack vs middy vs defense people are funny. Every player is a middy , the ones with the best sticks who are not the greatest runners become attack . The ones who are descent runners but have less stick skills or vision become defense. On occasion you get a stud middy who excels at offense and or defense and should never come off the field that are converted .

You need great vision on defense to see how a play is shaping up and to anticipate the offense. No two ways about that. The goalie does as well. The team relies on her to call out instructions.

i think she is also one of the top assists leaders too so how does that make her a ball hog? seems to me she is an amazing players who has made her team a legit playoff threat. Maybe its the other players who have stat envy

Who? Please say you don't mean Lynbrook. The team has zero chance. Cannot compete w conference 1 teams. Running clock.

Here we go!

Only slight upset is Lynbrook over SS otherwise all the higher seeds win the early rounds. With the new divisions, CSH finally has to play some teams to get another championship. Look for them to upset Wantagh in the finals.

Round 1
PE over Division by +5
Lynbrook over Hewlett by +8
Seaford over FP +3
LV over Bethpage +5

In A Massapequa is best but has been up and down
In B GC has an easy run over LB and a down year in Manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Ward Melville - Favorite

Middle Country - Likely Winner

Smithtown East - Has a chance

Northport - ??

Sachem North - Possible

Huntington - Dark Horse

Nassau A final Is Mass v Port
Nassau B final is GC v winner of LB/ Manhasset
Nassau C is Wantagh v winner of NS/CSH

Bold prediction going with GC in the Nassau B... NO UA All Americans and NO top 10 Nassau scorers. A "down" Year for them, left bereft of talent after their 2016s graduated. They couldn't possibly win it.

Huntington-Dark Horse. Yeah maybe in a pal game

Only GC will win for Nassau this year

FYI not from Garden city but no girls from the super conference are in the nassau top 10 scorers, but the first girl from that conference that appears is from Garden City.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bold prediction going with GC in the Nassau B... NO UA All Americans and NO top 10 Nassau scorers. A "down" Year for them, left bereft of talent after their 2016s graduated. They couldn't possibly win it.

There are very few schools that can run out 15-20 girls that can play. GC, Manhasset, Wantagh, CSH, always have the deepest talent. Youth programs in those towns don't let the coaches kid score 10 goals a game which kills programs. Most towns have a couple of good players and then they fall off a cliff.Thats why its the same teams year after year at the top. In other towns as long as the coaches kid gets recruited that's all they care about. Team game and Teams win championships

Huntington will lose first round, they are not even a dark horse in the first round just a major underdog

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go!

Only slight upset is Lynbrook over SS otherwise all the higher seeds win the early rounds. With the new divisions, CSH finally has to play some teams to get another championship. Look for them to upset Wantagh in the finals.

Round 1
PE over Division by +5
Lynbrook over Hewlett by +8
Seaford over FP +3
LV over Bethpage +5

In A Massapequa is best but has been up and down
In B GC has an easy run over LB and a down year in Manhasset

Not sure if you have seen any of these teams but south side is muc better than lynbrook and CSH won't come close to Wantagh. CSH is all about the goalie or they may not have won any conf1 games besides farmingdale

A great defender will be very athletic, fast, have good anticipation etc.... the same skill set that any position benefits from. But most teams don't have the depth to have players like that play defense. Typical trickle down has most teams with the very best players and atheletes playing midfield. I would also agree with previous posts that it it much safer to hide a weak player on attack. Your team can control the action run through an attacker, but an opposing team will target a weak defender and exploit her. But some of the very best players will be attack as well. Most defenders on the college level will be converted midfielders. The hardest part of it all is convincing the athletic and skilled kids to even want to play defense, especially when a team has plenty of talent depth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A great defender will be very athletic, fast, have good anticipation etc.... the same skill set that any position benefits from. But most teams don't have the depth to have players like that play defense. Typical trickle down has most teams with the very best players and atheletes playing midfield. I would also agree with previous posts that it it much safer to hide a weak player on attack. Your team can control the action run through an attacker, but an opposing team will target a weak defender and exploit her. But some of the very best players will be attack as well. Most defenders on the college level will be converted midfielders. The hardest part of it all is convincing the athletic and skilled kids to even want to play defense, especially when a team has plenty of talent depth.

Fair statement of the situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A great defender will be very athletic, fast, have good anticipation etc.... the same skill set that any position benefits from. But most teams don't have the depth to have players like that play defense. Typical trickle down has most teams with the very best players and atheletes playing midfield. I would also agree with previous posts that it it much safer to hide a weak player on attack. Your team can control the action run through an attacker, but an opposing team will target a weak defender and exploit her. But some of the very best players will be attack as well. Most defenders on the college level will be converted midfielders. The hardest part of it all is convincing the athletic and skilled kids to even want to play defense, especially when a team has plenty of talent depth.

Fair statement of the situation.

Agreed 100%. It can also be argued that your best athletes would play defense for all of the reasons you named plus one more...ability to change direction quickly (along with the anticipation you mentioned). Also add very high lax IQ...ability to read the offense and anticipate picks and rubs. As you can guess, my daughter was (is) a defender. She's also played some middie in high school and now playing some attack (left-handed attack), although she'll always be a defender at heart. And you're also correct that it's hard to convince a kid to try defender, especially if they are used to scoring. But, once one of them makes that game saving interception or stops a game-winning attacker they may be won over. It takes a special mindset to play the position at a high level. My hat is off to all career defenders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Here we go!

Only slight upset is Lynbrook over SS otherwise all the higher seeds win the early rounds. With the new divisions, CSH finally has to play some teams to get another championship. Look for them to upset Wantagh in the finals.

Round 1
PE over Division by +5
Lynbrook over Hewlett by +8
Seaford over FP +3
LV over Bethpage +5

Recap more lopsided than expected-
Plainedge wins by 8
Lynbrook wins by 4
Seaford wins by 8
LV wins by 10

Next Round- Anyone think their might be a competitive game?
Wantagh by 8+ over Plainedge
Southside by 5 over Lynbrook
CSH by 6+
North Shore by 5+

Selfless play and defense wins championships. Selfish play and parents who promote it will lead to a loss in a playoffs. After the loss the parents of the selfish player will blame the coaches. Parents of the selfish player will not care that the team lost as long as their child had multiple goals. Coaches who allow or reward selfish play will never win a championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfless play and defense wins championships. Selfish play and parents who promote it will lead to a loss in a playoffs. After the loss the parents of the selfish player will blame the coaches. Parents of the selfish player will not care that the team lost as long as their child had multiple goals. Coaches who allow or reward selfish play will never win a championship.

90% of club parents fall into the selfish play category. Its all about their kid and their college commitment

who are you referring too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Ward Melville - Favorite

Middle Country - Likely Winner

Smithtown East - Has a chance

Northport - ??

Sachem North - Possible

Huntington - Dark Horse

WM – Tough to go undefeated for the season. Loses in second round.
MC - Should win it all, but their coaching might let them down again. This coach has had some of the best talent on LI for the past few years and has not been able to seal the deal.
SE – I think this is the surprise team to watch out for.
NP – Loses in the 1st round.
SN – Can beat MC in the 1st round. If that happens, they will lose in second round.
H – Loses in the 1st round.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are you referring too?

Whoo is who referring too? Please use the Quote button.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are you referring too?

Whoo is who referring too? Please use the Quote button.

The who is the team from Whoville. Wake up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are you referring too?

Whoo is who referring too? Please use the Quote button.

The who is the team from Whoville. Wake up

Just keep on murdering our mother tongue...

So there weren't any real surprises in yesterday's Nassau playoffs. What about today?

Wantagh over Plainedge easily
Southside over Lynbrook by a few
CSH over Seaford by a lot
NS over Locust Valley in a close one

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So there weren't any real surprises in yesterday's Nassau playoffs. What about today?

Wantagh over Plainedge easily
Southside over Lynbrook by a few
CSH over Seaford by a lot
NS over Locust Valley in a close one

Thoughts?

I think NS by a decent margin...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So there weren't any real surprises in yesterday's Nassau playoffs. What about today?

Wantagh over Plainedge easily
Southside over Lynbrook by a few
CSH over Seaford by a lot
NS over Locust Valley in a close one

Thoughts?

I think NS by a decent margin...

Very little quality. The favorites will run away til the finals

Round two Suffolk predictions?

Have to say nothing more irritating than players who score a couple of goals and also turn it over twice as much. Sure path to losing.

2 best Nassau semis are LB v Set & Syo v Port, then maybe CSH v NS, thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Round two Suffolk predictions?

The three favs rather easy and NP in a close one
And we all know who is coming out of B and C, and D for that matter. Certain team don't rebuild, they just re-load

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have to say nothing more irritating than players who score a couple of goals and also turn it over twice as much. Sure path to losing.

Are we referring to a specific team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Round two Suffolk predictions?

The three favs rather easy and NP in a close one
And we all know who is coming out of B and C, and D for that matter. ay in team don't rebuild, they just re-load

I disagree with that statement. I think MC is going to lose

[quote=Anonymous][

Next Round- Anyone think their might be a competitive game?
Wantagh by 8+ over Plainedge
Southside by 5 over Lynbrook
CSH by 6+
North Shore by 5+

Wantagh by 9
CSH by 14!
NS by 4
Can someone step up and play a competitive game?

WI WAS LUCKY

Did Lynbeook bear Southside?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

Stick check really !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stick check really !!!

that was a brilliant request by the coach. And the stick was illegal. Which just shows you cheaters never win
Was it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stick check really !!!

hhh has one kid that can score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

i dont know why people keep saying riverhead is mediocre? They just knocked out Huntington who was the only team that came close to beating wm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

yes that was something

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Not sure if a 5 seed beating a 4 seed in overtime qualifies as an upset!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

yes that was something

Only competitive game everyone else got smoked. Why do we play the regular season its the same teams in final every year

I guess leading the county in assists, hustling back on D, sacrificing your body for ground balls and being widely acknowledged as a smart, fun, humble leader by her teammates doesn't count for making your teammates better. And stats do matter when every team you face is trying to shut you down with their "best players" and double teams. There are other great players on Long Island as there always are. Who "the best" is doesn't matter, does it? Syracuse thinks she's pretty special. You should watch her play sometime. Oh and yes, she did lead her team to an upset over Southside in the playoffs and the RVC fans sounded like the people on this chain. Envy is a terrible thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Not sure if a 5 seed beating a 4 seed in overtime qualifies as an upset!!!!

Anytime a lower seed beats a higher seed it is indeed an upset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess leading the county in assists, hustling back on D, sacrificing your body for ground balls and being widely acknowledged as a smart, fun, humble leader by her teammates doesn't count for making your teammates better. And stats do matter when every team you face is trying to shut you down with their "best players" and double teams. There are other great players on Long Island as there always are. Who "the best" is doesn't matter, does it? Syracuse thinks she's pretty special. You should watch her play sometime. Oh and yes, she did lead her team to an upset over Southside in the playoffs and the RVC fans sounded like the people on this chain. Envy is a terrible thing.

agree by far best player on LI. Stats ( goals AND assists ) plus like above mentioned the other team attempting to double you and shut you down and she still prevails. They might not win the counties but no denying her talent. I guess if she were from GC or Sett she'd be deemed best player in country by now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Ward Melville - Favorite

Middle Country - Likely Winner

Smithtown East - Has a chance

Northport - ??

Sachem North - Possible

Huntington - Dark Horse

WM – Tough to go undefeated for the season. Loses in second round.
MC - Should win it all, but their coaching might let them down again. This coach has had some of the best talent on LI for the past few years and has not been able to seal the deal.
SE – I think this is the surprise team to watch out for.
NP – Loses in the 1st round.
SN – Can beat MC in the 1st round. If that happens, they will lose in second round.
H – Loses in the 1st round.

Ward Melville - Certainly has the horses and the depth but if history is an indicator they will be out coached.
Middle Country - Has had more in the past and coaches have not been able to get it done when it counts.
Smithtown E - Has come on strong but not sure this is their year.
Northport - Can they get focused?
Sachem N - Play with a chip on their shoulder and are hungry.
Smithtown W - What happened? They returned a lot from a strong team last season.
Riverhead - Program has come a long way but not there just yet.
West Islip - They have won without being the most talented or athletic team in the past. Can they do it again?

Oceanside taking A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it go all division, all conference and then all county? And who determines this

Your coach

It's team coach and then opposing coaches. It's a give and take. Depending on how well (or poorly) the team did, the team is then only entitled to a certain number of selections for each award.

How many awards per playoff team, vs Non? Did awards get announced yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Not sure if a 5 seed beating a 4 seed in overtime qualifies as an upset!!!!

Anytime a lower seed beats a higher seed it is indeed an upset.

True, but a 5 beating a 4 isn't upset of the tournament. Plus, they had a tight game during the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess leading the county in assists, hustling back on D, sacrificing your body for ground balls and being widely acknowledged as a smart, fun, humble leader by her teammates doesn't count for making your teammates better. And stats do matter when every team you face is trying to shut you down with their "best players" and double teams. There are other great players on Long Island as there always are. Who "the best" is doesn't matter, does it? Syracuse thinks she's pretty special. You should watch her play sometime. Oh and yes, she did lead her team to an upset over Southside in the playoffs and the RVC fans sounded like the people on this chain. Envy is a terrible thing.

agree by far best player on LI. Stats ( goals AND assists ) plus like above mentioned the other team attempting to double you and shut you down and she still prevails. They might not win the counties but no denying her talent. I guess if she were from GC or Sett she'd be deemed best player in country by now.

They might not win the counties??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

i dont know why people keep saying riverhead is mediocre? They just knocked out Huntington who was the only team that came close to beating wm

I dont know why people say riverhead is mediocre either? Below average would be better, they havent beat a good team all year, lost by double digit goals 3 times...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Ward Melville - Favorite

Middle Country - Likely Winner

Smithtown East - Has a chance

Northport - ??

Sachem North - Possible

Huntington - Dark Horse

WM – Tough to go undefeated for the season. Loses in second round.
MC - Should win it all, but their coaching might let them down again. This coach has had some of the best talent on LI for the past few years and has not been able to seal the deal.
SE – I think this is the surprise team to watch out for.
NP – Loses in the 1st round.
SN – Can beat MC in the 1st round. If that happens, they will lose in second round.
H – Loses in the 1st round.

Ward Melville - Certainly has the horses and the depth but if history is an indicator they will be out coached.
Middle Country - Has had more in the past and coaches have not been able to get it done when it counts.
Smithtown E - Has come on strong but not sure this is their year.
Northport - Can they get focused?
Sachem N - Play with a chip on their shoulder and are hungry.
Smithtown W - What happened? They returned a lot from a strong team last season.
Riverhead - Program has come a long way but not there just yet.
West Islip - They have won without being the most talented or athletic team in the past. Can they do it again?

Save your breath with the bottom 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Ward Melville - Favorite

Middle Country - Likely Winner

Smithtown East - Has a chance

Northport - ??

Sachem North - Possible

Huntington - Dark Horse

WM – Tough to go undefeated for the season. Loses in second round.
MC - Should win it all, but their coaching might let them down again. This coach has had some of the best talent on LI for the past few years and has not been able to seal the deal.
SE – I think this is the surprise team to watch out for.
NP – Loses in the 1st round.
SN – Can beat MC in the 1st round. If that happens, they will lose in second round.
H – Loses in the 1st round.

Ward Melville - Certainly has the horses and the depth but if history is an indicator they will be out coached.
Middle Country - Has had more in the past and coaches have not been able to get it done when it counts.
Smithtown E - Has come on strong but not sure this is their year.
Northport - Can they get focused?
Sachem N - Play with a chip on their shoulder and are hungry.
Smithtown W - What happened? They returned a lot from a strong team last season.
Riverhead - Program has come a long way but not there just yet.
West Islip - They have won without being the most talented or athletic team in the past. Can they do it again?

Wi has won the Suffolk championship and the lic for the last 3 years. They've been tonstates for the last three years winning once. Do you have any idea how difficult that is???? To say they don't have talent or athletic kids is ridiculous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Ward Melville - Favorite

Middle Country - Likely Winner

Smithtown East - Has a chance

Northport - ??

Sachem North - Possible

Huntington - Dark Horse

WM – Tough to go undefeated for the season. Loses in second round.
MC - Should win it all, but their coaching might let them down again. This coach has had some of the best talent on LI for the past few years and has not been able to seal the deal.
SE – I think this is the surprise team to watch out for.
NP – Loses in the 1st round.
SN – Can beat MC in the 1st round. If that happens, they will lose in second round.
H – Loses in the 1st round.

Ward Melville - Certainly has the horses and the depth but if history is an indicator they will be out coached.
Middle Country - Has had more in the past and coaches have not been able to get it done when it counts.
Smithtown E - Has come on strong but not sure this is their year.
Northport - Can they get focused?
Sachem N - Play with a chip on their shoulder and are hungry.
Smithtown W - What happened? They returned a lot from a strong team last season.
Riverhead - Program has come a long way but not there just yet.
West Islip - They have won without being the most talented or athletic team in the past. Can they do it again?

Wi has won the Suffolk championship and the lic for the last 3 years. They've been tonstates for the last three years winning once. Do you have any idea how difficult that is???? To say they don't have talent or athletic kids is ridiculous

WM will make them look silly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

i dont know why people keep saying riverhead is mediocre? They just knocked out Huntington who was the only team that came close to beating wm

I dont know why people say riverhead is mediocre either? Below average would be better, they havent beat a good team all year, lost by double digit goals 3 times...

ALL the teams counting on 8th and 9th graders to win will fail big time, pequa the only exception because the goalie is a game changer and the conference pretty much sucks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

i dont know why people keep saying riverhead is mediocre? They just knocked out Huntington who was the only team that came close to beating wm

WM rested a lot of players, they could have beat huntington by 20 if they wanted to

Yes really. Too bad the blind and/ or corrupt refs didn't see her when she turned her back to the field and adjusted her strings right before the stick check. Lots of other people witnessed this. Doubt it was caught on film, but the game tape from that game definitely needs to be reviewed. Lots of shady calls. It was disgraceful.

South Side didn't have a chance. They were the better team who played the better game, but the refs were determined to give Lynbrook the win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Not sure if a 5 seed beating a 4 seed in overtime qualifies as an upset!!!!

Anytime a lower seed beats a higher seed it is indeed an upset.

True, but a 5 beating a 4 isn't upset of the tournament. Plus, they had a tight game during the year.

Tight game or not, 5 beats 4=upset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

i dont know why people keep saying riverhead is mediocre? They just knocked out Huntington who was the only team that came close to beating wm

I dont know why people say riverhead is mediocre either? Below average would be better, they havent beat a good team all year, lost by double digit goals 3 times...

clearly a bitter parent. Riverhead had some quality wins vs West Islip, Huntington twice, bay Shore, and had a very close game vs Sachem North. The blowouts were to MC, WM, and Smithtown. A lot of teams had that happen to them by those teams. They are a very young team that starts mostly 9th graders and 10th graders. They aren't going to win any county or state championships, but they'll be competitive. Considering how young they and the program are that's all they can ask for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Not sure if a 5 seed beating a 4 seed in overtime qualifies as an upset!!!!

Anytime a lower seed beats a higher seed it is indeed an upset.

True, but a 5 beating a 4 isn't upset of the tournament. Plus, they had a tight game during the year.

Tight game or not, 5 beats 4=upset

Not always. Didn't look at the specifics of this game, but #5 could have lost a few games at the beginning of the season and came on strong, while #4 started strong and limped to the end or had injuries, but still ended up with a better record. An upset is when the team expected to lose a game wins it instead. Obviously no point spreads in this case, but #5 could have been the favorite.

Look at NCAA hoops - 9's are often favored over 8's, 10's over 7's, etc. I think there was even a 12 favored over a 5 this year - in that case it's not an upset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Not sure if a 5 seed beating a 4 seed in overtime qualifies as an upset!!!!

Anytime a lower seed beats a higher seed it is indeed an upset.

True, but a 5 beating a 4 isn't upset of the tournament. Plus, they had a tight game during the year.

Tight game or not, 5 beats 4=upset

Not always. Didn't look at the specifics of this game, but #5 could have lost a few games at the beginning of the season and came on strong, while #4 started strong and limped to the end or had injuries, but still ended up with a better record. An upset is when the team expected to lose a game wins it instead. Obviously no point spreads in this case, but #5 could have been the favorite.

Look at NCAA hoops - 9's are often favored over 8's, 10's over 7's, etc. I think there was even a 12 favored over a 5 this year - in that case it's not an upset.

BUT in this case IT IS AN UPSET.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South Side didn't have a chance. They were the better team who played the better game, but the refs were determined to give Lynbrook the win.

Idiot parents. Anyone who has ever been honest to themselves knows to teach their kids that they should never leave it to the officiating to decide games. Surely there were things they could have done to negate bad officiating. In a close game that can go either way refs are human. Best to not leave it up to them, as much as it hurts. Of course on the sidelines what's a charge for one team is a great drive to the goal for the other. What is an illegal check for one team, is a great play by the other. None of us know how the refs are going to call plays. It's all judgement, and well they get paid to ref, and no one pays them on the side to make tilt calls to one team or the other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South Side didn't have a chance. They were the better team who played the better game, but the refs were determined to give Lynbrook the win.

Idiot parents. Anyone who has ever been honest to themselves knows to teach their kids that they should never leave it to the officiating to decide games. Surely there were things they could have done to negate bad officiating. In a close game that can go either way refs are human. Best to not leave it up to them, as much as it hurts. Of course on the sidelines what's a charge for one team is a great drive to the goal for the other. What is an illegal check for one team, is a great play by the other. None of us know how the refs are going to call plays. It's all judgement, and well they get paid to ref, and no one pays them on the side to make tilt calls to one team or the other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

i dont know why people keep saying riverhead is mediocre? They just knocked out Huntington who was the only team that came close to beating wm

I dont know why people say riverhead is mediocre either? Below average would be better, they havent beat a good team all year, lost by double digit goals 3 times...

clearly a bitter parent. Riverhead had some quality wins vs West Islip, Huntington twice, bay Shore, and had a very close game vs Sachem North. The blowouts were to MC, WM, and Smithtown. A lot of teams had that happen to them by those teams. They are a very young team that starts mostly 9th graders and 10th graders. They aren't going to win any county or state championships, but they'll be competitive. Considering how young they and the program are that's all they can ask for.

Congrats on being competitive, check your quality wins, think they are alittle bit of a stretch. One team had 10 loses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South Side didn't have a chance. They were the better team who played the better game, but the refs were determined to give Lynbrook the win.

stop crying like a baby. don't blame the refs. you were beaten by the best player in Nassau.

9 goals for any one player against South Side in a playoff game is quite impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Lynbrook with the upset of tournament so far

Not sure if a 5 seed beating a 4 seed in overtime qualifies as an upset!!!!

Anytime a lower seed beats a higher seed it is indeed an upset.

True, but a 5 beating a 4 isn't upset of the tournament. Plus, they had a tight game during the year.

Tight game or not, 5 beats 4=upset

Not always. Didn't look at the specifics of this game, but #5 could have lost a few games at the beginning of the season and came on strong, while #4 started strong and limped to the end or had injuries, but still ended up with a better record. An upset is when the team expected to lose a game wins it instead. Obviously no point spreads in this case, but #5 could have been the favorite.

Look at NCAA hoops - 9's are often favored over 8's, 10's over 7's, etc. I think there was even a 12 favored over a 5 this year - in that case it's not an upset.

BUT in this case IT IS AN UPSET.

OK, its an upset...who cares...move on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South Side didn't have a chance. They were the better team who played the better game, but the refs were determined to give Lynbrook the win.

Idiot parents. Anyone who has ever been honest to themselves knows to teach their kids that they should never leave it to the officiating to decide games. Surely there were things they could have done to negate bad officiating. In a close game that can go either way refs are human. Best to not leave it up to them, as much as it hurts. Of course on the sidelines what's a charge for one team is a great drive to the goal for the other. What is an illegal check for one team, is a great play by the other. None of us know how the refs are going to call plays. It's all judgement, and well they get paid to ref, and no one pays them on the side to make tilt calls to one team or the other.

While we"re being honest, girls lax officials affect a game more than any other sport. Also, need to implement a flopping/diving penalty like hockey, refs have a hard enough time officiating as it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South Side didn't have a chance. They were the better team who played the better game, but the refs were determined to give Lynbrook the win.

stop crying like a baby. don't blame the refs. you were beaten by the best player in Nassau.

You mean the best player in the universe.

[quote=Anonymous]9 goals for any one player against South Side in a playoff game is quite impressive.

Will this stud player keep it going against Wantagh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South Side didn't have a chance. They were the better team who played the better game, but the refs were determined to give Lynbrook the win.

stop crying like a baby. don't blame the refs. you were beaten by the best player in Nassau.

I am an impartial observer who was at the game last night.
Parents from both sides should be ashamed of themselves. The girls played a hard fought game and will probably only remember the actions of some parents from both sides. Parents on the field, yelling at refs and players from both teams, fighting with each other, and interfering with coaching decisions.

Congrats to both teams for the effort. # 7 and #44 are both great players who I hope, along with the other seniors can go onto great success at college without all the drama and nonsense created by adults.

CSH and Wantagh beat their opponents by a combined 25 goals and it could have been more. Why are games so lopsided? Are those two teams that good or is everyone else that bad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]9 goals for any one player against South Side in a playoff game is quite impressive.

Will this stud player keep it going against Wantagh?

Should be interesting. She is involved in over 70% of her teams goals (goals & assists) and has been on fire lately. Good luck to the remaining teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH and Wantagh beat their opponents by a combined 25 goals and it could have been more. Why are games so lopsided? Are those two teams that good or is everyone else that bad?

That is why they have a single power conference. They take the best 10 teams based upon past performance and expectations regardless of class and they play against each other during the year. Once the playoffs come they go back to their respective class (A, B, C or D) no matter what their record. They are guaranteed the playoffs. CSH had a losing record going into the playoffs but they easily beat Seaford who has a winning record. Out of the (4) C teams left in the playoffs all (3) power conference teams are still alive. Lynbrook is 14-2 on the year and will potentially move into the power conference next year because usually one or two drop out. I would expect Farmingdale to drop, they had a difficult year and they are actually the only power conference team not left in the playoff semi-finals (A conference)

"clearly a bitter parent. Riverhead had some quality wins vs West Islip, Huntington twice, bay Shore, and had a very close game vs Sachem North. The blowouts were to MC, WM, and Smithtown. A lot of teams had that happen to them by those teams. They are a very young team that starts mostly 9th graders and 10th graders. They aren't going to win any county or state championships, but they'll be competitive. Considering how young they and the program are that's all they can ask for."

Pathetic response , Huntington has not beaten any above average team in years , Bayshore was like 5-10 on the year , you got blown out by both Smithtown teams and it looks like you were non competitive with Mattituck . You kept it close against Sachem , WOW . You and your ballhogs did at least run it up against some bottom teams , so the most realistic description would be "best of the worst."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI WAS LUCKY

Which time? Last week when they beat you, or yesterday when they beat you??

No they were lucky to keep it close against Riverhead a very mediocre team .

i dont know why people keep saying riverhead is mediocre? They just knocked out Huntington who was the only team that came close to beating wm

WM rested a lot of players, they could have beat huntington by 20 if they wanted to

I believe the word you're looking for is fenced not rested

The best group of high quality teams are in Suffolk C, small group agreed, but the top three or four there are of higher quality than top three in any other division Nassau or Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH and Wantagh beat their opponents by a combined 25 goals and it could have been more. Why are games so lopsided? Are those two teams that good or is everyone else that bad?

That is why they have a single power conference. They take the best 10 teams based upon past performance and expectations regardless of class and they play against each other during the year. Once the playoffs come they go back to their respective class (A, B, C or D) no matter what their record. They are guaranteed the playoffs. CSH had a losing record going into the playoffs but they easily beat Seaford who has a winning record. Out of the (4) C teams left in the playoffs all (3) power conference teams are still alive. Lynbrook is 14-2 on the year and will potentially move into the power conference next year because usually one or two drop out. I would expect Farmingdale to drop, they had a difficult year and they are actually the only power conference team not left in the playoff semi-finals (A conference)

How could Farmingdale drop with their history and youth program? The coaches there are Soooooooooooooooooooo over rated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best group of high quality teams are in Suffolk C, small group agreed, but the top three or four there are of higher quality than top three in any other division Nassau or Suffolk

Nassau Bs(GC,LB,Sett), Cs(Wan,CSH,NS), not too bad...Suffolk Cs, not alot of wins outside conference...prob more loses than quality wins...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 goals for any one player against South Side in a playoff game is quite impressive.

South Side pretty mediocre, pretty bad game plan also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best group of high quality teams are in Suffolk C, small group agreed, but the top three or four there are of higher quality than top three in any other division Nassau or Suffolk

Nassau Bs(GC,LB,Sett), Cs(Wan,CSH,NS), not too bad...Suffolk Cs, not alot of wins outside conference...prob more loses than quality wins...

I am a Nassau guy...but sorry, Suffolk C is the standout conference this year. I'll give you GC in the B's but LB & Manhasset (not this year). Also the Nassau C's are no match

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess leading the county in assists, hustling back on D, sacrificing your body for ground balls and being widely acknowledged as a smart, fun, humble leader by her teammates doesn't count for making your teammates better. And stats do matter when every team you face is trying to shut you down with their "best players" and double teams. There are other great players on Long Island as there always are. Who "the best" is doesn't matter, does it? Syracuse thinks she's pretty special. You should watch her play sometime. Oh and yes, she did lead her team to an upset over Southside in the playoffs and the RVC fans sounded like the people on this chain. Envy is a terrible thing.

Take it easy Mom. I know at least 2 opponents that never faceguarded her let alone double lol. She's a good little player but no need to exaggerate, takes away from her talent.

Have no dog in the fight and have watched girls lax for 20 years. The kid had 8 free position goals out of 9, which is ridiculous! 3 free position shots in overtime one after the other charging in until she finally scored! The kid is very good but flops all the time. No need for it. Lynbrook got every call and half way thru the game the flopper then put on a helmet. PLEASE! Same refs made 2 mysterious calls. One when SS was up 1 with 2:45 and had the ball, the ref made a hand motion I have never seen in all the games I have watched, gave the ball to Lynbrook who scored. Then in OT on the draw SS get a mysterious circle call and he hands the ball to lynbrook cause he knew they wouldn't win it. SS coach should have called a stick check right away. Actually he probably should have checked all game. To many people screaming it so the kid grabbed and fixed. Not saying it was illegal but she sure looked nervous. Congrats on winning the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]CSH and Wantagh beat their opponents by a combined 25 goals and it could have been more. Why are games so lopsided? Are those two teams that good or is everyone else that bad?

That is why they have a single power conference. They take the best 10 teams based upon past performance and expectations regardless of class and they play against each other during the year. Once the playoffs come they go back to their respective class (A, B, C or D) no matter what their record. They are guaranteed the playoffs. CSH had a losing record going into the playoffs but they easily beat Seaford who has a winning record. Out of the (4) C teams left in the playoffs all (3) power conference teams are still alive. Lynbrook is 14-2 on the year and will potentially move into the power conference next year because usually one or two drop out. I would expect Farmingdale to drop, they had a difficult year and they are actually the only power conference team not left in the playoff semi-finals (A conference)

I wish Suffolk would have a power conference but I'm sure it's easier said than done and it would help both the good teams as well as the new or historically weaker programs. How does Nassau put teams in and out of the power conference...I imagine it must be like soccer but there need to be some rules?

Bro get a clue Lynbrook is a mediocre to not good team who got blown out by the only Power conference team they played. Not going into the power Conference. Even if they didn't graduate their only 2 players

Gutsy coaches ask in, others sand bag and opt out for a good reg season and then an [lacrosse] kicking in the playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]CSH and Wantagh beat their opponents by a combined 25 goals and it could have been more. Why are games so lopsided? Are those two teams that good or is everyone else that bad?

That is why they have a single power conference. They take the best 10 teams based upon past performance and expectations regardless of class and they play against each other during the year. Once the playoffs come they go back to their respective class (A, B, C or D) no matter what their record. They are guaranteed the playoffs. CSH had a losing record going into the playoffs but they easily beat Seaford who has a winning record. Out of the (4) C teams left in the playoffs all (3) power conference teams are still alive. Lynbrook is 14-2 on the year and will potentially move into the power conference next year because usually one or two drop out. I would expect Farmingdale to drop, they had a difficult year and they are actually the only power conference team not left in the playoff semi-finals (A conference)

I wish Suffolk would have a power conference but I'm sure it's easier said than done and it would help both the good teams as well as the new or historically weaker programs. How does Nassau put teams in and out of the power conference...I imagine it must be like soccer but there need to be some rules?

Ask Mt. Sinai how much fun it was to play East Hampton, Port Jeff, Hampton Bays etc..... These teams are about as far apart on the spectrum as it gets. It is not good for either team to play in game like this. Yes Suffolk desperately needs the conferences based on ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have no dog in the fight and have watched girls lax for 20 years. The kid had 8 free position goals out of 9, which is ridiculous! 3 free position shots in overtime one after the other charging in until she finally scored! The kid is very good but flops all the time. No need for it. Lynbrook got every call and half way thru the game the flopper then put on a helmet. PLEASE! Same refs made 2 mysterious calls. One when SS was up 1 with 2:45 and had the ball, the ref made a hand motion I have never seen in all the games I have watched, gave the ball to Lynbrook who scored. Then in OT on the draw SS get a mysterious circle call and he hands the ball to lynbrook cause he knew they wouldn't win it. SS coach should have called a stick check right away. Actually he probably should have checked all game. To many people screaming it so the kid grabbed and fixed. Not saying it was illegal but she sure looked nervous. Congrats on winning the game.

Reffing was insanely bad/ biased. Any doubters need to watch the game tape. Hopefully someone posts it on Youtube. League officials really need to review this game.

The amount of shooting space calls in girls lacrosse is ludicrous. Girls don't play the game. They learn how to draw the call for the 8m shot. And the flopping is equally insane. For as many legit talented girls there is an equal amount of actresses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best group of high quality teams are in Suffolk C, small group agreed, but the top three or four there are of higher quality than top three in any other division Nassau or Suffolk

Nassau Bs(GC,LB,Sett), Cs(Wan,CSH,NS), not too bad...Suffolk Cs, not alot of wins outside conference...prob more loses than quality wins...

I am a Nassau guy...but sorry, Suffolk C is the standout conference this year. I'll give you GC in the B's but LB & Manhasset (not this year). Also the Nassau C's are no match

Manhasset lost some games, but beat darien,bishop ireton and st ants...darien crushed bbp.i'll give you mount, beat cba, but lost to ndp...who have bbp and swr beat that makes them so great?

My daughter had a player on her team and this is how she played, illegal stick carries within the sphere, at a minimum of 5-6 free position shots in every game, insanely out of proportion in any given game. Coaches tried to coach it out of her style, when she listens, gets no goals. 2/3 if not more of her total goals were free position shots solely based on her illegal stick carry style. NEVER called.

Nassau Bs(GC,LB,Sett), Cs(Wan,CSH,NS), not too bad...Suffolk Cs, not alot of wins outside conference...prob more loses than quality wins...

... don't forget about D class where all 5 teams in the class (that's Nassau and Suffolk!) make it to the playoffs! What a joke!

Can't understand the need to add another class, Does anyone know the rationale?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have no dog in the fight and have watched girls lax for 20 years. The kid had 8 free position goals out of 9, which is ridiculous! 3 free position shots in overtime one after the other charging in until she finally scored! The kid is very good but flops all the time. No need for it. Lynbrook got every call and half way thru the game the flopper then put on a helmet. PLEASE! Same refs made 2 mysterious calls. One when SS was up 1 with 2:45 and had the ball, the ref made a hand motion I have never seen in all the games I have watched, gave the ball to Lynbrook who scored. Then in OT on the draw SS get a mysterious circle call and he hands the ball to lynbrook cause he knew they wouldn't win it. SS coach should have called a stick check right away. Actually he probably should have checked all game. To many people screaming it so the kid grabbed and fixed. Not saying it was illegal but she sure looked nervous. Congrats on winning the game.

Reffing was insanely bad/ biased. Any doubters need to watch the game tape. Hopefully someone posts it on Youtube. League officials really need to review this game.

Dude, this isn't the NFL, they can't even get enough referees for lacrosse. There are literally about 12 referees for girls Island wide. You think BOCES is getting rid of anyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau Bs(GC,LB,Sett), Cs(Wan,CSH,NS), not too bad...Suffolk Cs, not alot of wins outside conference...prob more loses than quality wins...

... don't forget about D class where all 5 teams in the class (that's Nassau and Suffolk!) make it to the playoffs! What a joke!

Can't understand the need to add another class, Does anyone know the rationale?

Don't know for sure but thinking it might be because of all the smaller schools Upstate - classifications are State-wide (and just revised this year).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]CSH and Wantagh beat their opponents by a combined 25 goals and it could have been more. Why are games so lopsided? Are those two teams that good or is everyone else that bad?

That is why they have a single power conference. They take the best 10 teams based upon past performance and expectations regardless of class and they play against each other during the year. Once the playoffs come they go back to their respective class (A, B, C or D) no matter what their record. They are guaranteed the playoffs. CSH had a losing record going into the playoffs but they easily beat Seaford who has a winning record. Out of the (4) C teams left in the playoffs all (3) power conference teams are still alive. Lynbrook is 14-2 on the year and will potentially move into the power conference next year because usually one or two drop out. I would expect Farmingdale to drop, they had a difficult year and they are actually the only power conference team not left in the playoff semi-finals (A conference)

I wish Suffolk would have a power conference but I'm sure it's easier said than done and it would help both the good teams as well as the new or historically weaker programs. How does Nassau put teams in and out of the power conference...I imagine it must be like soccer but there need to be some rules?

Ask Mt. Sinai how much fun it was to play East Hampton, Port Jeff, Hampton Bays etc..... These teams are about as far apart on the spectrum as it gets. It is not good for either team to play in game like this. Yes Suffolk desperately needs the conferences based on ability.

Agree 100%. Same was true for B's - only competitive games for ESM and RP were non-league. Can't even count when they played each other because ESM won easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]CSH and Wantagh beat their opponents by a combined 25 goals and it could have been more. Why are games so lopsided? Are those two teams that good or is everyone else that bad?

That is why they have a single power conference. They take the best 10 teams based upon past performance and expectations regardless of class and they play against each other during the year. Once the playoffs come they go back to their respective class (A, B, C or D) no matter what their record. They are guaranteed the playoffs. CSH had a losing record going into the playoffs but they easily beat Seaford who has a winning record. Out of the (4) C teams left in the playoffs all (3) power conference teams are still alive. Lynbrook is 14-2 on the year and will potentially move into the power conference next year because usually one or two drop out. I would expect Farmingdale to drop, they had a difficult year and they are actually the only power conference team not left in the playoff semi-finals (A conference)

I wish Suffolk would have a power conference but I'm sure it's easier said than done and it would help both the good teams as well as the new or historically weaker programs. How does Nassau put teams in and out of the power conference...I imagine it must be like soccer but there need to be some rules?

Ask Mt. Sinai how much fun it was to play East Hampton, Port Jeff, Hampton Bays etc..... These teams are about as far apart on the spectrum as it gets. It is not good for either team to play in game like this. Yes Suffolk desperately needs the conferences based on ability.

Not sure there are enough strong teams in suffolk to make a power conference. I guess it would be better than current system. Maybe a better solution would be to allow more out of conference games. Not sure why but just like in Nassau, the Smaller schools in suffolk are the better teams. Large schools cant compete with the top smaller schools in Suffolk. Allowing teams to customize their schedule would make for more competitive games for all.

More non league games. Let them travel out of state on the weekends.

High school lacrosse is simply not very competitive. Power leagues, out of conference games, stat leaders etc... who really cares? We read on this site about the ball hogs and the stat padders, we read about the evil club players and parents, we read about politics and rigged tryouts. When all is said and done none of it matters. If your daughter enjoys playing and gets along with her teammates you should be happy. There are very few good HS coaches, the competition is weak and it has no impact with respect to college recruiting. We read on this site about the 8th and 9th graders playing major roles on their varsity teams, we see girls who play for B and C level club teams excelling on their HS team and we see below average players receiving accolades. It is HS lacrosse and it will go by quickly. If your daughter is a high caliber player and has aspirations of competing at the next level good for her. If your daughter enjoys playing and is having a good experience in high school thats great as well.

For those of you obsessed with stats, recognition and accolades please realize that it will all be over very soon and nobody will care or remember that your daughter had a bunch of goals and was in the paper. Many of the HS heros become college zeros and they have a tough time dealing with it and they stop playing. If the girl is a stud on a top club team and excels when competing against the best competition chances are she will do just fine at the next level. If you are one of those people who wonder why your daughter does so well on her HS team but not so great vs tough competition you might be in for a surprise.

Enjoy the ride because it will go by quickly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High school lacrosse is simply not very competitive. Power leagues, out of conference games, stat leaders etc... who really cares? We read on this site about the ball hogs and the stat padders, we read about the evil club players and parents, we read about politics and rigged tryouts. When all is said and done none of it matters. If your daughter enjoys playing and gets along with her teammates you should be happy. There are very few good HS coaches, the competition is weak and it has no impact with respect to college recruiting. We read on this site about the 8th and 9th graders playing major roles on their varsity teams, we see girls who play for B and C level club teams excelling on their HS team
and we see below average players receiving accolades. It is HS lacrosse and it will go by quickly. If your daughter is a high caliber player and has aspirations of competing at the next level good for her. If your daughter enjoys playing and is having a good experience in high school thats great as well.

For those of you obsessed with stats, recognition and accolades please realize that it will all be over very soon and nobody will care or remember that your daughter had a bunch of goals and was in the paper. Many of the HS heros become college zeros and they have a tough time dealing with it and they stop playing. If the girl is a stud on a top club team and excels when competing against the best competition chances are she will do just fine at the next level. If you are one of those people who wonder why your daughter does so well on her HS team but not so great vs tough competition you might be in for a surprise.

Enjoy the ride because it will go by quickly.

Signed the guy who has a kid with no accolades but believes she is a stud in the big games. Good for the kids who have gotten and are going to get the accolades many of which are well deserved . Many will be successful in college many will not ,depends on many factors , skill level being just a part of it.

Great prediction Kreskin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High school lacrosse is simply not very competitive. Power leagues, out of conference games, stat leaders etc... who really cares? We read on this site about the ball hogs and the stat padders, we read about the evil club players and parents, we read about politics and rigged tryouts. When all is said and done none of it matters. If your daughter enjoys playing and gets along with her teammates you should be happy. There are very few good HS coaches, the competition is weak and it has no impact with respect to college recruiting. We read on this site about the 8th and 9th graders playing major roles on their varsity teams, we see girls who play for B and C level club teams excelling on their HS team
and we see below average players receiving accolades. It is HS lacrosse and it will go by quickly. If your daughter is a high caliber player and has aspirations of competing at the next level good for her. If your daughter enjoys playing and is having a good experience in high school thats great as well.

For those of you obsessed with stats, recognition and accolades please realize that it will all be over very soon and nobody will care or remember that your daughter had a bunch of goals and was in the paper. Many of the HS heros become college zeros and they have a tough time dealing with it and they stop playing. If the girl is a stud on a top club team and excels when competing against the best competition chances are she will do just fine at the next level. If you are one of those people who wonder why your daughter does so well on her HS team but not so great vs tough competition you might be in for a surprise.

Enjoy the ride because it will go by quickly.

Signed the guy who has a kid with no accolades but believes she is a stud in the big games. Good for the kids who have gotten and are going to get the accolades many of which are well deserved . Many will be successful in college many will not ,depends on many factors , skill level being just a part of it.

A hole self centered club parent that is ruining our game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High school lacrosse is simply not very competitive. Power leagues, out of conference games, stat leaders etc... who really cares? We read on this site about the ball hogs and the stat padders, we read about the evil club players and parents, we read about politics and rigged tryouts. When all is said and done none of it matters. If your daughter enjoys playing and gets along with her teammates you should be happy. There are very few good HS coaches, the competition is weak and it has no impact with respect to college recruiting. We read on this site about the 8th and 9th graders playing major roles on their varsity teams, we see girls who play for B and C level club teams excelling on their HS team
and we see below average players receiving accolades. It is HS lacrosse and it will go by quickly. If your daughter is a high caliber player and has aspirations of competing at the next level good for her. If your daughter enjoys playing and is having a good experience in high school thats great as well.

For those of you obsessed with stats, recognition and accolades please realize that it will all be over very soon and nobody will care or remember that your daughter had a bunch of goals and was in the paper. Many of the HS heros become college zeros and they have a tough time dealing with it and they stop playing. If the girl is a stud on a top club team and excels when competing against the best competition chances are she will do just fine at the next level. If you are one of those people who wonder why your daughter does so well on her HS team but not so great vs tough competition you might be in for a surprise.

Enjoy the ride because it will go by quickly.

Signed the guy who has a kid with no accolades but believes she is a stud in the big games. Good for the kids who have gotten and are going to get the accolades many of which are well deserved . Many will be successful in college many will not ,depends on many factors , skill level being just a part of it.

No, not really. Just someone who has been around and has seen and heard the same BS over and over. It will go by quickly so just enjoy the ride and don't get caught up in the BS.

So much for some of the Nassau head coaching changes this season. Yielded nothing

Goodnight Set!!

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goodnight Set!!

Game, 'Sett, Match!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau Bs(GC,LB,Sett), Cs(Wan,CSH,NS), not too bad...Suffolk Cs, not alot of wins outside conference...prob more loses than quality wins...

... don't forget about D class where all 5 teams in the class (that's Nassau and Suffolk!) make it to the playoffs! What a joke!

Can't understand the need to add another class, Does anyone know the rationale?

Another moron trying to make a point by making up facts . When you post without actually having a clue you just look stupid .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Really?? What the heck is wrong with someone asking a question? What a shame this place has turned into such a negative, mean, unwelcoming site. The person asking could have been a kid or new coach, if you can't answer the question then don't respond with such sarcastic reply.
To the poster I wish I knew the answer, maybe somebody with some manners and knowledge can?

MELVILLE AND wi great game to watch, wi also upset them but came up short I give them credit, let's hope Melville plays better against NP

How bout them N'Port girls! Haters going to hat!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How bout them N'Port girls! Haters going to hat!

They can start their community service on Thursday after school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How bout them N'Port girls! Haters going to hat!

as the Taylor Swift song goes.." Haters gonna hat, hat, hat...."

Final Four

Ward Melville Vs Northport
Middle Country Vs Smithtown East

Ward Melville - Closer than expected against West Islip. What happened?

Smithtown East - After losing to WM and MC in early April they have won 11 straight. Can they get to the finals?

Middle Country - Turned the table on SN and avenged earlier loss. Thumped Smithtown East during the year. Can they do it again?

Northport - Smithtown West was no match. Do they have enough to upset Ward Melville?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How bout them N'Port girls! Haters going to hat!

as the Taylor Swift song goes.." Haters gonna hat, hat, hat...."

Good one! Still, your kids are home and we're still playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How bout them N'Port girls! Haters going to hat!

as the Taylor Swift song goes.." Haters gonna hat, hat, hat...."

Good one! Still, your kids are home and we're still playing.

Does Suffolk Dept. of Corrections have girls lax league now??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Really?? What the heck is wrong with someone asking a question? What a shame this place has turned into such a negative, mean, unwelcoming site. The person asking could have been a kid or new coach, if you can't answer the question then don't respond with such sarcastic reply.
To the poster I wish I knew the answer, maybe somebody with some manners and knowledge can?

Maybe a high school coach can answer this question?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Really?? What the heck is wrong with someone asking a question? What a shame this place has turned into such a negative, mean, unwelcoming site. The person asking could have been a kid or new coach, if you can't answer the question then don't respond with such sarcastic reply.
To the poster I wish I knew the answer, maybe somebody with some manners and knowledge can?

Maybe a high school coach can answer this question?

Are you asking because your daughter has been nominated or are just curious? I would think you have a kid playing or why else would you be on this thread. Have your daughter ask her coach, seems like the easiest way to get an answer no? not trying to be mean here, just practical.

The Magic 8 Ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Really?? What the heck is wrong with someone asking a question? What a shame this place has turned into such a negative, mean, unwelcoming site. The person asking could have been a kid or new coach, if you can't answer the question then don't respond with such sarcastic reply.
To the poster I wish I knew the answer, maybe somebody with some manners and knowledge can?

Maybe a high school coach can answer this question?

Last year the awards were not announced at the county dinner ,in years past they were. They have not been selected yet and the process is political. It also baffles me that other regions get the same number of AA per team as our region.

correct... 95% of the "D" schools are upstate.

Is it safe to assume that the suspended girls for Northport are back just in time for playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Really?? What the heck is wrong with someone asking a question? What a shame this place has turned into such a negative, mean, unwelcoming site. The person asking could have been a kid or new coach, if you can't answer the question then don't respond with such sarcastic reply.
To the poster I wish I knew the answer, maybe somebody with some manners and knowledge can?

Maybe a high school coach can answer this question?

Last year the awards were not announced at the county dinner ,in years past they were. They have not been selected yet and the process is political. It also baffles me that other regions get the same number of AA per team as our region.

There are like 600+ AAs in the country, bit of a joke.

Suspended for 1 meaningless game. Been back for awhile

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Really?? What the heck is wrong with someone asking a question? What a shame this place has turned into such a negative, mean, unwelcoming site. The person asking could have been a kid or new coach, if you can't answer the question then don't respond with such sarcastic reply.
To the poster I wish I knew the answer, maybe somebody with some manners and knowledge can?

Maybe a high school coach can answer this question?

Are you asking because your daughter has been nominated or are just curious? I would think you have a kid playing or why else would you be on this thread. Have your daughter ask her coach, seems like the easiest way to get an answer no? not trying to be mean here, just practical.

She asked both the coach and the AD, both have no idea. Not a big lacrosse community. Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suspended for 1 meaningless game. Been back for awhile

Again why post if you are clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

correct... 95% of the "D" schools are upstate.

Mattituck is in D this year....can't imagine them not winning states.
And to the person who asked who SWR beat....well they did beat MT Sinai (enough said) and lost to ESM by one and also beat 5 playoff teams
BBP also beat SWR and St Anthony's and they also beat 4 playoff teams
Suffolk C overall was very strong, at least all the playoff teams but especially the top three.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how/when high school all Americans are selected? Are they announced at county dinners? Sorry if this has been asked before, new to the scene so please don't beat me up

relax travel dad. how did your team do? oh that's right people like you don't care about the team just want those personal accolades for recruiting purposes

Really?? What the heck is wrong with someone asking a question? What a shame this place has turned into such a negative, mean, unwelcoming site. The person asking could have been a kid or new coach, if you can't answer the question then don't respond with such sarcastic reply.
To the poster I wish I knew the answer, maybe somebody with some manners and knowledge can?

Maybe a high school coach can answer this question?

Last year the awards were not announced at the county dinner ,in years past they were. They have not been selected yet and the process is political. It also baffles me that other regions get the same number of AA per team as our region.

There are like 600+ AAs in the country, bit of a joke.

out girls got their invites already. It's June 12

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

correct... 95% of the "D" schools are upstate.

Mattituck is in D this year....can't imagine them not winning states.
And to the person who asked who SWR beat....well they did beat MT Sinai (enough said) and lost to ESM by one and also beat 5 playoff teams
BBP also beat SWR and St Anthony's and they also beat 4 playoff teams
Suffolk C overall was very strong, at least all the playoff teams but especially the top three.

Didn't SWR get crushed by MC and BBP get crushed by Darien? Like I said who have they beat outside of Cs...stop with the playoff teams they beat, your embarrassing yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

If you are going to post on BOTC, please use proper grammar. The proper usage of the word is THEIR, look it up you brain dead idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

wow You NP parents are really a classless bunch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it safe to assume that the suspended girls for Northport are back just in time for playoffs?

Yeah, its called 'work release"...

Wantagh in another easy one.

Very few competitive games this year for the big teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

wow You NP parents are really a classless bunch!

i would relax. First time u made it this far in awhile

Don't assume this comes from NP as opposed to someone trying to stir the pot.
Happens all the time. NP looking forward to a good game w WM- good luck to all
the girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh in another easy one.

Very few competitive games this year for the big teams

Big teams? Relax. Wantagh is in "C", in Nassau. Not exactly a powerhouse. Now Suffolk "C", that's a different story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

wow You NP parents are really a classless bunch!

i would relax. First time u made it this far in awhile

That's one more time than you jerkoff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh in another easy one.

Very few competitive games this year for the big teams

Big teams? Relax. Wantagh is in "C", in Nassau. Not exactly a powerhouse. Now Suffolk "C", that's a different story.

Wantagh could win Nassau A just like GC and CSH Very little big time team talent in Nassau and Manhasset most years

What happened to Manhasset this year? 5-5 in conference with losses to Port Washington Massapequa GC and 2x to Long Beach. Not a good season for them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Manhasset this year? 5-5 in conference with losses to Port Washington Massapequa GC and 2x to Long Beach. Not a good season for them

Actually counting playoff game against LB they were 4 - 6 against power conference teams...also lost to Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Manhasset this year? 5-5 in conference with losses to Port Washington Massapequa GC and 2x to Long Beach. Not a good season for them

Very funky year, had 3 big non conference wins though...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh in another easy one.

Very few competitive games this year for the big teams

Big teams? Relax. Wantagh is in "C", in Nassau. Not exactly a powerhouse. Now Suffolk "C", that's a different story.

How did the big 3 Suffolk "C"s do non conference? Record? I figure with all the talk about how dominant they are, probably had winning non conference record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh in another easy one.

Very few competitive games this year for the big teams

Big teams? Relax. Wantagh is in "C", in Nassau. Not exactly a powerhouse. Now Suffolk "C", that's a different story.

How did the big 3 Suffolk "C"s do non conference? Record? I figure with all the talk about how dominant they are, probably had winning non conference record.

Take it easy Sparky !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh in another easy one.

Very few competitive games this year for the big teams

Big teams? Relax. Wantagh is in "C", in Nassau. Not exactly a powerhouse. Now Suffolk "C", that's a different story.

How did the big 3 Suffolk "C"s do non conference? Record? I figure with all the talk about how dominant they are, probably had winning non conference record.

Take it easy Sparky !

Don't sleep on westhampton in the suffolk C, they are peaking at the right time of year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

wow You NP parents are really a classless bunch!

i would relax. First time u made it this far in awhile

That's one more time than you jerkoff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

wow You NP parents are really a classless bunch!

i would relax. First time u made it this far in awhile

That's one more time than you jerkoff

Didn't Syosset beat Northport this year?

Garden City, Lynbrook and Pequa did not receive All American notification yet, to the poster that stated he/she was told its June 12 - were you notified via school or mail? Graduation recognition is same night for my teams school, trying to decipher if this is fact or fiction

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

wow You NP parents are really a classless bunch!

i would relax. First time u made it this far in awhile

That's one more time than you jerkoff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course suspended Northport girls are back playing.. there parents have NO MORALS!!!!

Hahahaha, jealous that you're home! We don't care. See you next year loser

wow You NP parents are really a classless bunch!

i would relax. First time u made it this far in awhile

That's one more time than you jerkoff

Didn't Syosset beat Northport this year?

Point is what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Four

Ward Melville Vs Northport
Middle Country Vs Smithtown East

Ward Melville - Closer than expected against West Islip. What happened?

Smithtown East - After losing to WM and MC in early April they have won 11 straight. Can they get to the finals?

Middle Country - Turned the table on SN and avenged earlier loss. Thumped Smithtown East during the year. Can they do it again?

Northport - Smithtown West was no match. Do they have enough to upset Ward Melville?

MC will choke again and lose to SE. This team should have at least 2 - 3 state titles, but coach can't get team through playoffs.
WM playing a rejuvenated NP team

Final SE vs NP - NP Wins

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Four

Ward Melville Vs Northport
Middle Country Vs Smithtown East

Ward Melville - Closer than expected against West Islip. What happened?

Smithtown East - After losing to WM and MC in early April they have won 11 straight. Can they get to the finals?

Middle Country - Turned the table on SN and avenged earlier loss. Thumped Smithtown East during the year. Can they do it again?

Northport - Smithtown West was no match. Do they have enough to upset Ward Melville?

MC will choke again and lose to SE. This team should have at least 2 - 3 state titles, but coach can't get team through playoffs.
WM playing a rejuvenated NP team

Final SE vs NP - NP Wins

Wearing orange jumpsuits

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Her coach definitely knows who has been selected as All County, All American etc. If the Coach did not submit your daughters name for consideration, then she can not be included in the vote. Coaches all meet for the final selection and it becomes a political trade off. "You vote from XYZ from my team and I will vote for XYZ from your team." Coaches push the players they want selected. If the Coach told your daughter she has no idea of the selections she is lying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Her coach definitely knows who has been selected as All County, All American etc. If the Coach did not submit your daughters name for consideration, then she can not be included in the vote. Coaches all meet for the final selection and it becomes a political trade off. "You vote from XYZ from my team and I will vote for XYZ from your team." Coaches push the players they want selected. If the Coach told your daughter she has no idea of the selections she is lying.

This is truth. Speaking as a parent whose daughter got screwed in a trade-off (told to me by another coach who was a friend via club). The further your school's team went, the more spots the coach gets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Manhasset this year? 5-5 in conference with losses to Port Washington Massapequa GC and 2x to Long Beach. Not a good season for them

Very funky year, had 3 big non conference wins though...

What Happened? Coach cannot hide behind running a few chosen underclassmen up and down the field (along with her niece) and expect to win a champtionship. That ship sailed in 2014, when the girls won in spite of her. Manhasset has always been a great program, but morale is low and people now see that the coach is not what they believed her to be. She may have been an exceptional player from High School, College and World Team; but that does not translate as a coach. She has poor social skills, cannot communicate with the players and does not foster any sense of team amongst the players. Alumni have no connection to the program which in and of itself is benyond sad. No bitterness here, we have been long gone. Just find it strange that the boys coach was fired after having a proven track record and 40 plus years in the district and the girls coach remains.

Suffolk c prediction for what it's worth... nothing... Mt Sinia wins by 9... SWR wins by 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Manhasset this year? 5-5 in conference with losses to Port Washington Massapequa GC and 2x to Long Beach. Not a good season for them

Very funky year, had 3 big non conference wins though...

What Happened? Coach cannot hide behind running a few chosen underclassmen up and down the field (along with her niece) and expect to win a champtionship. That ship sailed in 2014, when the girls won in spite of her. Manhasset has always been a great program, but morale is low and people now see that the coach is not what they believed her to be. She may have been an exceptional player from High School, College and World Team; but that does not translate as a coach. She has poor social skills, cannot communicate with the players and does not foster any sense of team amongst the players. Alumni have no connection to the program which in and of itself is benyond sad. No bitterness here, we have been long gone. Just find it strange that the boys coach was fired after having a proven track record and 40 plus years in the district and the girls coach remains.

Your kid must not play. That's my guess.

Read " long gone" and went on to D! College player

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Her coach definitely knows who has been selected as All County, All American etc. If the Coach did not submit your daughters name for consideration, then she can not be included in the vote. Coaches all meet for the final selection and it becomes a political trade off. "You vote from XYZ from my team and I will vote for XYZ from your team." Coaches push the players they want selected. If the Coach told your daughter she has no idea of the selections she is lying.

This is truth. Speaking as a parent whose daughter got screwed in a trade-off (told to me by another coach who was a friend via club). The further your school's team went, the more spots the coach gets.

They were told of all conference and all county but coach said she wasn't told anything about all American

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Lynbrook and Pequa did not receive All American notification yet, to the poster that stated he/she was told its June 12 - were you notified via school or mail? Graduation recognition is same night for my teams school, trying to decipher if this is fact or fiction

Did this Lynbrook dad just put his daughters school in the same sentence as GC and Mass. Did you call Mass and GC to make sure they didn't forget about your little one? Please don't put the Lynbrook program in the same sentence like they are on the same level. Tool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Her coach definitely knows who has been selected as All County, All American etc. If the Coach did not submit your daughters name for consideration, then she can not be included in the vote. Coaches all meet for the final selection and it becomes a political trade off. "You vote from XYZ from my team and I will vote for XYZ from your team." Coaches push the players they want selected. If the Coach told your daughter she has no idea of the selections she is lying.

This is truth. Speaking as a parent whose daughter got screwed in a trade-off (told to me by another coach who was a friend via club). The further your school's team went, the more spots the coach gets.

They were told of all conference and all county but coach said she wasn't told anything about all American

Corrrct all Americans have not been completed. All other awards are done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Lynbrook and Pequa did not receive All American notification yet, to the poster that stated he/she was told its June 12 - were you notified via school or mail? Graduation recognition is same night for my teams school, trying to decipher if this is fact or fiction

Did this Lynbrook dad just put his daughters school in the same sentence as GC and Mass. Did you call Mass and GC to make sure they didn't forget about your little one? Please don't put the Lynbrook program in the same sentence like they are on the same level. Tool.

And Mass doesn't belong in the same sentence ad GC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Another pot stirrer. Give me a break. WM team loaded with talent. It's incredibly difficult to
go through an entire season undefeated. NP fortunate to have pulled out a one goal win.
WM to be congratulated on a great season and will be a top team for years to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

YJ wins again

Had a rare chance to watch today's Northport-Ward Melville game as I'm chasing college games all spring. I'll be at the Final Four this weekend.

Ward Melville did not play like a #1 seed today. After a quick 5-0 then 6-1 lead Northport just wore them out with possession strength and draws. Northport getting it to 6-4 before the half was a momentum swing. It really seemed like possession in the second half was 20 minutes Northport to 5 minutes Ward Melville. The Ward Melville possessions were so quick to the goal that there was no sense of control or flow. Ward Melville only managed one goal in the second half on a wicked free position shot. Northport was the better team today despite the talent on Ward Melville.

#10 on Northport gets game ball today. Nice game on draw, maintained composure while under pressure late in the game and got ball to her teammates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Her coach definitely knows who has been selected as All County, All American etc. If the Coach did not submit your daughters name for consideration, then she can not be included in the vote. Coaches all meet for the final selection and it becomes a political trade off. "You vote from XYZ from my team and I will vote for XYZ from your team." Coaches push the players they want selected. If the Coach told your daughter she has no idea of the selections she is lying.

This is truth. Speaking as a parent whose daughter got screwed in a trade-off (told to me by another coach who was a friend via club). The further your school's team went, the more spots the coach gets.

They were told of all conference and all county but coach said she wasn't told anything about all American

Corrrct all Americans have not been completed. All other awards are done.

Thank you so much!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

YJ wins again

MC will FINALLY get their County Title now that they will be playing Northport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another pot stirrer. Give me a break. WM team loaded with talent. It's incredibly difficult to
go through an entire season undefeated. NP fortunate to have pulled out a one goal win.
WM to be congratulated on a great season and will be a top team for years to come.

WM has 1 more year to get it done, this year is MC last chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ok so let me get this straight..1.play down to your opponents level. 2. Don't score too many goals (you'll [lacrosse] off the jealous dad on botc) 3. Let the other team score so they dont feel bad. Most of those girls on the leaderboard are great players and are going to great colleges. Oh wait they must have fooled all those college coaches but not you almighty one. The Riverhead girls are good players its not their fault who their competiton is...and they do score against good teams. Maybe not as many...its called defense."

So you think teams should score as much as possible no matter the level of competition, makes you seem like a loser . Go look at the most recent games of the top teams in Suffolk in every division A,B,C,D, each played non competitive games , each spread the scoring out , none of these teams let ball hog players pad their stats . The Riverhead girls are average at best and would not be able to score against those top teams previously mentioned so they pad their stats against weak competition ,it's sad .

Why are you so obsessed with how many goals other girls have. Worry about your own daughter. And no, I am not a loser. Please don't call people names.

I am not obsessed with how many goals any individual has, poor sportsmanship is a pet peeve of mine. If a team outscored an overmatched opponent by more than 20 I generally have an issue ,if in a blowout an individual puts up an unnecessary amount of points I have an issue with that. My kid lays on a sub par team and regularly gets blown out by 20, its gets real old watching a few ball hogs on the other team score over and over. Get your lead put your back ups in and if they score so be it but to leave your starters or have a few ball hogs run up their numbers is ridiculous.

What if that ball hog won the draw, worked her butt of getting the ground balls and got knocked down a few times in the meantime?

Ball hog is a ball hog. Not every player who scores a lot of goals is a ball hog. Everybody except the player and the players parents knows the difference. Some coaches apparently can't tell the difference either.

Selfish players will almost always hurt their team. The worst part about it is the player and the parents do not care. As long as they score goals everything is okay. The parents are usually non athletes or maybe played something in HS but thats about it. They do not understand the game so the only thing they can recognize is a goal. Selfish play is easy to spot and ugly to watch and is detrimental to the team.

There are some really great players who happen to score a lot of goals. They are not all ball hog. There are also some very selfish players who try to go to the goal as soon as they get the ball. They sometimes score a lot of goals but they are far from being good players. Worse than the standard run of the mill ball hog is the lazy player who also happens to be a ball hog. Start watching players when they do not have the ball. Watch them on both ends of the field. Watch them redefend. Watch when they are off ball (on offense and defense). Watch the effort, watch the communication, watch how they work and help their team. Then watch the ones who loaf around and wait for the ball. Watch the ones who start running with the ball every time they get it even when they should be passing. Watch the ones who try to run through three girls. It is easy to spot the ball hogs.
Good coaches will not put up with it. Bad coaches don't know what to do.

If your team has them good luck to you because the odds are that they will cost you when it matters.

Very true.... watched it today. Damn shame killed their own team.

i guess northport lax girls may be talented on the field but need some coaching in morals/values. not much of a win with an arrest record!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Let's blame it on the coaching.

I think it's funny that the two of the coaches who have been gone after the most on here are in the finals. Northport even with the convicts back is not nearly as talented as WM this year but got the job done , also of note Northport regularly brings up middle school kids WM does not so I guess that theory is done.
MC coach gets labeled every year as having so much talent but never winning which is just not true . Just look at where the kids are committed to and it tells you the story , for the past 3-4 years they have had a player who would be considered one of the best ( 3-4 years ago it was the sister at ND , the past 1-2 it's the UNC sister ) but not a lot around her . Some of the other players are good but not as good as their parents think so they blame the coach .SE and MC both have a history of bringing up middle school kids , so again the theory that only the weak programs bring middle school kids up is unfounded.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i guess northport lax girls may be talented on the field but need some coaching in morals/values. not much of a win with an arrest record!

Way more talented than your kid! Hahahaha you lost ! Everyone who tore down NP just built up their desire to win! Thank you all! Losing sucks, you lost! Too bad loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i guess northport lax girls may be talented on the field but need some coaching in morals/values. not much of a win with an arrest record!

Way more talented than your kid! Hahahaha you lost ! Everyone who tore down NP just built up their desire to win! Thank you all! Losing sucks, you lost! Too bad loser

I would wait till you actually win something before spouting off. Karma

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i guess northport lax girls may be talented on the field but need some coaching in morals/values. not much of a win with an arrest record!

Way more talented than your kid! Hahahaha you lost ! Everyone who tore down NP just built up their desire to win! Thank you all! Losing sucks, you lost! Too bad loser

It's too bad that Northport will have an asterisk next to their record this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Let's blame it on the coaching.

More than likely you are a snake who should just slither back under your rock but instead you are either trying to stir the pot or you are insinuating that it is all on the players. In any event, here is a high level view of the coaching track record. Not enough time to go into the details but this should paint a pretty clear picture for you.

WM Vs Opponent Regular Season Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd W 11 - 7 L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore W 10 - 8 L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore W 11 - 10 L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon W 17 - 4 L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport L 13 - 12 L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport L 8 - 6 L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport W 13 - 6 L 8 - 7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i guess northport lax girls may be talented on the field but need some coaching in morals/values. not much of a win with an arrest record!

Way more talented than your kid! Hahahaha you lost ! Everyone who tore down NP just built up their desire to win! Thank you all! Losing sucks, you lost! Too bad loser

It's too bad that Northport will have an asterisk next to their record this year

You Lost! You Lost! You Lost! You Lost! Your season is OVER, done, finished. Your daughters were NOT talented enough to beat NP, YOU LOST. No asterisk, sorry, just a better record than your loser kid who lost. So try again next year loser, we're busy getting ready for another game. You....not so much!

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Let's blame it on the coaching.

More than likely you are a snake who should just slither back under your rock but instead you are either trying to stir the pot or you are insinuating that it is all on the players. In any event, here is a high level view of the coaching track record. Not enough time to go into the details but this should paint a pretty clear picture for you.

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Let's blame it on the coaching.

More than likely you are a snake who should just slither back under your rock but instead you are either trying to stir the pot or you are insinuating that it is all on the players. In any event, here is a high level view of the coaching track record. Not enough time to go into the details but this should paint a pretty clear picture for you.

WM Vs Opponent Regular Season Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd W 11 - 7 L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore W 10 - 8 L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore W 11 - 10 L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon W 17 - 4 L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport L 13 - 12 L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport L 8 - 6 L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport W 13 - 6 L 8 - 7

I have never seen a team that has a good lead sub out a whole group of girls at one time. This is playoffs, why would you change things up so dramatically?

First time coming to this site- I am amazed at how "anonymous" people post about teenage girls using the word such as "convicts" or "thugs". For those of you on here that regurgitate this garbage, YOU ARE SHAMEFULL COWARDS. You should think about how kids regularly make dumb and stupid choices, and YES your kid makes them too.

BTW- WM has an extremely talented team that peeked to early. They should hold their heads up high for a great season. As for NPT, they seem to be peeking at the right time and certainly deserved the win yesterday. Not to many teams can comeback from a 5-0 deficit to win the game from a #1 seeded team. I wish MC and NPT a good game next week, represent Suffolk well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First time coming to this site- I am amazed at how "anonymous" people post about teenage girls using the word such as "convicts" or "thugs". For those of you on here that regurgitate this garbage, YOU ARE SHAMEFULL COWARDS. You should think about how kids regularly make dumb and stupid choices, and YES your kid makes them too.

BTW- WM has an extremely talented team that peeked to early. They should hold their heads up high for a great season. As for NPT, they seem to be peeking at the right time and certainly deserved the win yesterday. Not to many teams can comeback from a 5-0 deficit to win the game from a #1 seeded team. I wish MC and NPT a good game next week, represent Suffolk well.

Actually Ward Melville never peeked. The girls were never given a chance to peek. You say NP deserved to win I will say WM girls deserve a better coach . The Seniors especially deserve better, they do not deserve to go out like that.

Until I looked at it I never really knew just how bad it was. The record and history speaks for itself. Girls never had a chance. Just as all of the players and parents that have gone through the program have said "She will always find a way to lose".

But hey, I guess it's always the players....

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

She lost the game for them!! Nobody was sad to see her go! When an entire team hears the coach yell out a play including her and and she ignored it that's SELFISH! And don't think for one minute the MD coach doesn't see it, which is why she only got in 7 games when they were up by. 10+ goals. Attitude doesn't help make friends either, would not be surprised if she transfers and she won't be missed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

Really? Maybe it is time you get past it and move on. It seems like the current team has moved on and trying to bring home a championship.

Wow......when you win, the TEAM is 'talented', 'loaded', 'athletic' etc.......when you lose, the COACH is to blame? I wish you all lots of luck in college....it is a bumpy road and that mentality is not going to help you get through.

Undefeated season is not an easy task. Be proud of what you have accomplished. Put things in perspective and set an example for your daughter. What is being displayed on this forum is a shame - for BOTH teams.

Speaking of Wantagh, most of you trolls on this blog had them dead and buried back in January. How we looking now ?? Bring it home girls !! GO WARRIORS !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

Have a Life. Get over it

Ignore the deranged pot stirrer who is ridiculously insulting an
outstanding WM team. Absurd. NP has great respect for that team
as everyone should and that's the truth. Get a grip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First time coming to this site- I am amazed at how "anonymous" people post about teenage girls using the word such as "convicts" or "thugs". For those of you on here that regurgitate this garbage, YOU ARE SHAMEFULL COWARDS. You should think about how kids regularly make dumb and stupid choices, and YES your kid makes them too.

BTW- WM has an extremely talented team that peeked to early. They should hold their heads up high for a great season. As for NPT, they seem to be peeking at the right time and certainly deserved the win yesterday. Not to many teams can comeback from a 5-0 deficit to win the game from a #1 seeded team. I wish MC and NPT a good game next week, represent Suffolk well.

Actually Ward Melville never peeked. The girls were never given a chance to peek. You say NP deserved to win I will say WM girls deserve a better coach . The Seniors especially deserve better, they do not deserve to go out like that.

Until I looked at it I never really knew just how bad it was. The record and history speaks for itself. Girls never had a chance. Just as all of the players and parents that have gone through the program have said "She will always find a way to lose".

But hey, I guess it's always the players....

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

And there it is.......
WM parents throwing coach under the bus.
Surprised it took so long.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

She lost the game for them!! Nobody was sad to see her go! When an entire team hears the coach yell out a play including her and and she ignored it that's SELFISH! And don't think for one minute the MD coach doesn't see it, which is why she only got in 7 games when they were up by. 10+ goals. Attitude doesn't help make friends either, would not be surprised if she transfers and she won't be
missed

Yo sound like such a [lacrosse] . Guaranteed your daughter would not see the field at all at Maryland you dope who I am sure had zero interest in your loser kid .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First time coming to this site- I am amazed at how "anonymous" people post about teenage girls using the word such as "convicts" or "thugs". For those of you on here that regurgitate this garbage, YOU ARE SHAMEFULL COWARDS. You should think about how kids regularly make dumb and stupid choices, and YES your kid makes them too.

BTW- WM has an extremely talented team that peeked to early. They should hold their heads up high for a great season. As for NPT, they seem to be peeking at the right time and certainly deserved the win yesterday. Not to many teams can comeback from a 5-0 deficit to win the game from a #1 seeded team. I wish MC and NPT a good game next week, represent Suffolk well.

Actually Ward Melville never peeked. The girls were never given a chance to peek. You say NP deserved to win I will say WM girls deserve a better coach . The Seniors especially deserve better, they do not deserve to go out like that.

Until I looked at it I never really knew just how bad it was. The record and history speaks for itself. Girls never had a chance. Just as all of the players and parents that have gone through the program have said "She will always find a way to lose".

But hey, I guess it's always the players....

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Its a bit of a cop out no? Your team goes 17-0, the players are great, lose a game, coach stinks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First time coming to this site- I am amazed at how "anonymous" people post about teenage girls using the word such as "convicts" or "thugs". For those of you on here that regurgitate this garbage, YOU ARE SHAMEFULL COWARDS. You should think about how kids regularly make dumb and stupid choices, and YES your kid makes them too.

BTW- WM has an extremely talented team that peeked to early. They should hold their heads up high for a great season. As for NPT, they seem to be peeking at the right time and certainly deserved the win yesterday. Not to many teams can comeback from a 5-0 deficit to win the game from a #1 seeded team. I wish MC and NPT a good game next week, represent Suffolk well.

Actually Ward Melville never peeked. The girls were never given a chance to peek. You say NP deserved to win I will say WM girls deserve a better coach . The Seniors especially deserve better, they do not deserve to go out like that.

Until I looked at it I never really knew just how bad it was. The record and history speaks for itself. Girls never had a chance. Just as all of the players and parents that have gone through the program have said "She will always find a way to lose".

But hey, I guess it's always the players....

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Oh please Pat Hobbes! Get back to work and stop trashing the coach on your lunch break! None of us can stand you, glad to finally have you out of the program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ignore the deranged pot stirrer who is ridiculously insulting an
outstanding WM team. Absurd. NP has great respect for that team
as everyone should and that's the truth. Get a grip.

Than you WM parent for telling us all about your talents as you troll as a NP parent, we won! ALL wanted to see us fail! Calling our girls thugs and convicts! Goodnight WM, you suck!

The Seahawks > Warriors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

Let it go... now she's about to bring home the NCAA national championship..

Watching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

Let it go... now she's about to bring home the NCAA national championship..

Trust me there was more than one cancer on that team and in the stands the past couple of years. You can obviously see that by some of the comments launched on BOTC a year later.

My high school game of the day was Bayport-Blue Point versus Shoreham-Wading River in a battle of the hyphens. Another great one goal game and almost an improbable win for SWR. Down 8-4 SWR waged an incredible comeback to tie and send to OT. In my opinion the winning goal, off a free position shot for shooting space, was a giveback call for missing an obvious strike to the head against a BPP player. Still a great game, a good crowd and typical LI playoff atmosphere. Hats off to both teams.

Pequa over Oceanside

Ummm... your way off base! It was a clear shooting space call. Swr got all the calls late so stop crying you lost!

You may have won but your girls r still thugs and thiefs. Winning a lax game doesn't change what they did.. does it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First time coming to this site- I am amazed at how "anonymous" people post about teenage girls using the word such as "convicts" or "thugs". For those of you on here that regurgitate this garbage, YOU ARE SHAMEFULL COWARDS. You should think about how kids regularly make dumb and stupid choices, and YES your kid makes them too.

BTW- WM has an extremely talented team that peeked to early. They should hold their heads up high for a great season. As for NPT, they seem to be peeking at the right time and certainly deserved the win yesterday. Not to many teams can comeback from a 5-0 deficit to win the game from a #1 seeded team. I wish MC and NPT a good game next week, represent Suffolk well.

Actually Ward Melville never peeked. The girls were never given a chance to peek. You say NP deserved to win I will say WM girls deserve a better coach . The Seniors especially deserve better, they do not deserve to go out like that.

Until I looked at it I never really knew just how bad it was. The record and history speaks for itself. Girls never had a chance. Just as all of the players and parents that have gone through the program have said "She will always find a way to lose".

But hey, I guess it's always the players....

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Oh please Pat Hobbes! Get back to work and stop trashing the coach on your lunch break! None of us can stand you, glad to finally have you out of the program.

You seriously are the biggest loser dad! Keep blaming the coach for your kids inadequacies (it's like hot potato trying to watch them catch) OH and get a life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

She lost the game for them!! Nobody was sad to see her go! When an entire team hears the coach yell out a play including her and and she ignored it that's SELFISH! And don't think for one minute the MD coach doesn't see it, which is why she only got in 7 games when they were up by. 10+ goals. Attitude doesn't help make friends either, would not be surprised if she transfers and she won't be
missed

Yo sound like such a [lacrosse] . Guaranteed your daughter would not see the field at all at Maryland you dope who I am sure had zero interest in your loser kid .

7 games lololol what a great experience but wait at least she got gear. #scrubsquad benchwarmers every team needs them.

Big time players all struggle when they go from being the go to player to a small piece in a new D1 puzzle. You are right, many of these kids will transfer down the D1 ladder or come home to a place like Adelphi or Post and become the go to person again. D1 and its 5 hours a day isn't for some kids who might be selfish and have trouble getting along. At the top programs its win at all costs which means the middle to bottom of the roster doesn't play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

She lost the game for them!! Nobody was sad to see her go! When an entire team hears the coach yell out a play including her and and she ignored it that's SELFISH! And don't think for one minute the MD coach doesn't see it, which is why she only got in 7 games when they were up by. 10+ goals. Attitude doesn't help make friends
either, would not be surprised if she transfers and she won't be
missed

Yo sound like such a [lacrosse] . Guaranteed your daughter would not see the field at all at Maryland you dope who I am sure had zero interest in your loser kid .

7 games lololol what a great experience but wait at least she got gear. #scrubsquad benchwarmers every team needs them.

Thanks for proving that you don't only sound like a [lacrosse] but in actuality you are a [lacrosse]. You should voice your opinion in public so I can let you know what a flaccid coward you are .I believe I know who you are so we will have a " conversation" next time I see you .You will deny posting this but just know you need to look yourself in the mirror .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa over Oceanside

Port over Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You may have won but your girls r still thugs and thiefs. Winning a lax game doesn't change what they did.. does it?

Hahahaha, you lost, go to a different web site, this one is for lacrosse. And winners still have something to play for! You should just grill up a couple of hot dogs, no practice right this weekend! Hahahahaha! See ya losers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big time players all struggle when they go from being the go to player to a small piece in a new D1 puzzle. You are right, many of these kids will transfer down the D1 ladder or come home to a place like Adelphi or Post and become the go to person again. D1 and its 5 hours a day isn't for some kids who might be selfish and have trouble getting along. At the top programs its win at all costs which means the middle to bottom of the roster doesn't play

True, Adelphi is in a totally different league than a legit D1 team. More like a participation trophy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You may have won but your girls r still thugs and thiefs. Winning a lax game doesn't change what they did.. does it?

Oh please, gimme a break! SWR is notorious for their dirty thug play and then crybaby bullsh** (and worse) when they lose, in EVERY SINGLE girls sport they play. Those kids are all a disgrace to youth sports and that dumpy "athletic staff" lady who walks around shaking her head disapprovingly whenever they endure a deserving lose, chastising the opposing team and screaming "you f***ing suck" to the refs as they leave the field, epitomizes your entire classless community!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year ago today was the shot heard around WANTAGH. Oh those poor girls, what they missed out on do to one very, very selfish person. Me me me, mommy mommy mommy.

She lost the game for them!! Nobody was sad to see her go! When an entire team hears the coach yell out a play including her and and she ignored it that's SELFISH! And don't think for one minute the MD coach doesn't see it, which is why she only got in 7 games when they were up by. 10+ goals. Attitude doesn't help make friends either, would not be surprised if she transfers and she won't be
missed

Yo sound like such a [lacrosse] . Guaranteed your daughter would not see the field at all at Maryland you dope who I am sure had zero interest in your loser kid .

7 games lololol what a great experience but wait at least she got gear. #scrubsquad benchwarmers every team needs them.

I'm looking forward to her watching her play tonight, Maryland easy over Penn State.. should be up by 10 at the start of the second half..

Originally Posted by baldbear

Had a rare chance to watch today's Northport-Ward Melville game as I'm chasing college games all spring. I'll be at the Final Four this weekend.

Ward Melville did not play like a #1 seed today. After a quick 5-0 then 6-1 lead Northport just wore them out with possession strength and draws. Northport getting it to 6-4 before the half was a momentum swing. It really seemed like possession in the second half was 20 minutes Northport to 5 minutes Ward Melville. The Ward Melville possessions were so quick to the goal that there was no sense of control or flow. Ward Melville only managed one goal in the second half on a wicked free position shot. Northport was the better team today despite the talent on Ward Melville.

#10 on Northport gets game ball today. Nice game on draw, maintained composure while under pressure late in the game and got ball to her teammates.

Baldbear...very accurate description of the game. Unfortunately the lack of possession time has been going on all season and never corrected. The philosophy of the coaches seems to be if you can put up numbers then you must be the package, despite the numbers being put up against weaker, less quality teams and low quality goals. No insight to look at the total package of the player and what they can contribute to the team. It is an unfortunate loss, many girls made mistakes, but as a coach the biggest mistake is not getting players to play as a team. Watching the game there are a number of girls that will just go to the cage regardless of the field set up, not having someone at X to back up, having 3-4 defenders on them and being told by the coach to pull out.... no sense of an offensive set at all. However, they are girls and need to be coached, sometimes pulled and sat for a little to understand the importance of playing like a team. Northport played like a team that day, everyone touching the ball. The selfish play came back to bite WM and the responsibility does fall on the coaches because it was welcomed and not rectified

As for the parent who comes on here and calls out other parents and players shame on you. We all know who you are and you should be embarrassed especially with the ties you have to this game and to girls lacrosse. It is juvenile. Northport came out the victor, it is over and please move on. You have many more years at WM so just enjoy it.

Any explanation as to why Long Island Girls lacrosse got the boot from msg varsity? Not one game televised? Only thing was gains for brains. No in season games, no playoffs?

What an absolute insults for girls sports.
Might be time to dump cable vision for good.

I see Fios has them

If you look at past MSG varsity or New 12 Varsity carried very few girls games majority always went to Boys Lax

That's because the girls game at the HS level is torture to watch!...
Most girls games were on late at night to help insomniacs..

They always had at least the playoffs, torture or not, why not give same billing at least for the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ummm... your way off base! It was a clear shooting space call. Swr got all the calls late so stop crying you lost!

If you are referring to me I had no skin in the game so there were no tears.

As for shooting space the rule is: a defender covering the ball carrier with the opportunity to shoot must be within a stick’s length of the attacker. The defender was well within a stick length of the shooter. They should have called SWR for a card for a strike to the head just before this call and didn't. So the official gave them the call. It happens.

Fun to be back on LI and off to Gillette for the Final Four--so if you see a bald guy in a NCAA hat stop and say hello.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They always had at least the playoffs, torture or not, why not give same billing at least for the playoffs.

Time Warner (now Spectrum, I guess) carries a lot of HS girls and boys games upstate. I was up there for NCAA Regionals and there were multiple games on at the same time. Is MSG Varsity not carrying games since the sale of Cablevison?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's because the girls game at the HS level is torture to watch!...
Most girls games were on late at night to help insomniacs..

Watch last nites Port v Syosset game on Fios Monday and tell me that's not exciting. Amazing 3OT game. Back and forth, both teams played their hearts out. Game had everything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

Not sure what team the original poster was talking about but the above post was on point. Really hurt the TEAM. Will happen again next year due to the fact that the coaches and the parents of the selfish players do not even understand that it is a problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are fun to watch, 3 shameless ball hogs w a coach who has no clue . Plenty of other talented kids on that team but the 3 ballhogs are complete black holes , gross .

What team are you talking about?

Who cares what team? Ball hog is a ball hog, blame the coach. If a player repeatedly runs to the goal every time she touches the ball and the coach does not correct the problem it is on the coach. Selfish play will rarely be rewarded with a championship.

It really doesn't matter what team they are talking about, selfish play is ugly and is detrimental to the team. Most teams will actually play better without the ball hogs. Not making the pass also hurts on the defensive end as well as in transition. When the selfish player does not pass the ball when it should be passed the entire flow is disrupted and opportunities are missed. Not passing when you should will also result in additional turnovers.

A team will always play better without selfish players.

Not sure what team the original poster was talking about but the above post was on point. Really hurt the TEAM. Will happen again next year due to the fact that the coaches and the parents of the selfish players do not even understand that it is a problem.

BTW, that is the biggest problem. The coaches, and parents of the selfish players don't get it. No idea what team the original post was referring to but two of our three are back next year. Not fun to watch at all, extremely frustrating all season long. Not sure that they even understand that it cost the team in the playoffs. Many of the players and some of the parents knew exactly how the season would end.

Coaches are a big problem at the high school level....posessions are important ...when you have a girl who loses all of the draws...by far not the tallest and vertical leap limited...why do you continue to use the same girl...politics? And btw the same girl at club plays defense??????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches are a big problem at the high school level....posessions are important ...when you have a girl who loses all of the draws...by far not the tallest and vertical leap limited...why do you continue to use the same girl...politics? And btw the same girl at club plays defense??????

put the red cup down and push back from the computer. so many things whacked in your post but, what]s the problem with a defender doing the draw??

get some help..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches are a big problem at the high school level....posessions are important ...when you have a girl who loses all of the draws...by far not the tallest and vertical leap limited...why do you continue to use the same girl...politics? And btw the same girl at club plays defense??????

I've seen players from all positions--attack, defense and middie--take the draw. A good draw control includes the players on the circle as well.

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches are a big problem at the high school level....posessions are important ...when you have a girl who loses all of the draws...by far not the tallest and vertical leap limited...why do you continue to use the same girl...politics? And btw the same girl at club plays defense??????

I've seen players from all positions--attack, defense and middie--take the draw. A good draw control includes the players on the circle as well.

Truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A Playoff Seeding

1-Ward Melville 189.280
2-Smithtown East 172.140
3-Middle Country 171.430
4-Smithtown West 155.000
5-Northport 154.290
6-Sachem North 145.190
7-Riverhead 130.190
8-H H Hills 120.210
9-West Islip 116.430
10-Huntington 115.900
11-Sachem East 103.580

outside looking in....
12-Patchogue-Medford 98.760

Coaching is the X factor during the playoffs. The most talented team does not always win. The best coaches will have scouted their opponents and they will prepare accordingly. A well thought out game plan and strategy can make the difference in two evenly matched teams. It can also help to overcome a lack of talent. Sound game planning coupled with smart in-game decisions/adjustments will many times lead to a championship.

Ward Melville - Favorite

Middle Country - Likely Winner

Smithtown East - Has a chance

Northport - ??

Sachem North - Possible

Huntington - Dark Horse

WM – Tough to go undefeated for the season. Loses in second round.
MC - Should win it all, but their coaching might let them down again. This coach has had some of the best talent on LI for the past few years and has not been able to seal the deal.
SE – I think this is the surprise team to watch out for.
NP – Loses in the 1st round.
SN – Can beat MC in the 1st round. If that happens, they will lose in second round.
H – Loses in the 1st round.

Ward Melville - Certainly has the horses and the depth but if history is an indicator they will be out coached.
Middle Country - Has had more in the past and coaches have not been able to get it done when it counts.
Smithtown E - Has come on strong but not sure this is their year.
Northport - Can they get focused?
Sachem N - Play with a chip on their shoulder and are hungry.
Smithtown W - What happened? They returned a lot from a strong team last season.
Riverhead - Program has come a long way but not there just yet.
West Islip - They have won without being the most talented or athletic team in the past. Can they do it again?

And then there were two.

What say you?

Being from wi, I am neither a fan of mc or np. However, Mc player deserves this before she graduates. Polished talented player who relies on skill to get job done.

Anyone know how the LI teams did at school girls this weekend? Couldn't find anything on laxpower

Have a daughter who graduated from college last year and a freshmen in high school now . Have been following this web site and the school girls tournament for some time . Back in the day everyone complained that YJ and CR ran school girls and were biased in their selections etc and that the teams did not win the tournament every year as a result, that said cannot remember a year when a LI team did not make at least the finals .
Fast forward to now .( My freshmen made team 3 about where she belongs ) The politics in the selection process are worse than ever and there were kids on team 1 that anyone who has been around LI lacrosse long enough knows did not belong( side note CR and YJ are no longer involved).Several teams were over represented . Sorry but you have a player who has been considered 1 of the best players in the country in the 2018 age group for some time now who gets cut while a player from a below average team who is not good enough to play midfield on that team ( has 1 goal 0 assists on season ) make team 1 as a midfielder , of course her coach was at the tryouts . The result is the first time in a long time no LI team makes the finals.
Yale was a poor venue for this event .

I guess your Wantagh girl made the right choice. Good for her, congratulations!!

Ma/Ri team 1 and 2 won both divisions... pretty sad considering the two team beat the 1 team when they played. What is happening on LI people, why can't we put together good teams anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how the LI teams did at school girls this weekend? Couldn't find anything on laxpower

LI metro 1 was 3-1
LI metro 2 was 2-2.
LI metro 3 was 1-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ma/Ri team 1 and 2 won both divisions... pretty sad considering the two team beat the 1 team when they played. What is happening on LI people, why can't we put together good teams anymore.

It's politics . You had certain high school coaches show up as evaluators to simply put undeserving kids from their districts on teams .WH, SE completely over represented on team 1 and I am sure there were other high schools who had evaluators there that pushed some of their own kids and the end result is the worst showing by Long Island in the history of the tournament . Bring back CR if you want to start winning this thing again .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ma/Ri team 1 and 2 won both divisions... pretty sad considering the two team beat the 1 team when they played. What is happening on LI people, why can't we put together good teams anymore.

Mass and RI had 2 teams total. one per state. if we - LI - chose just one team?? come on we would demo all these squabs..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ma/Ri team 1 and 2 won both divisions... pretty sad considering the two team beat the 1 team when they played. What is happening on LI people, why can't we put together good teams anymore.

Mass and RI had 2 teams total. one per state. if we - LI - chose just one team?? come on we would demo all these squabs..

Then team #1 should win...

Stat padding of the year award goes to............ RIVERHEAD!! Looked at various games and boy some of the "stars" really light it up against some sub par teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have a daughter who graduated from college last year and a freshmen in high school now . Have been following this web site and the school girls tournament for some time . Back in the day everyone complained that YJ and CR ran school girls and were biased in their selections etc and that the teams did not win the tournament every year as a result, that said cannot remember a year when a LI team did not make at least the finals .
Fast forward to now .( My freshmen made team 3 about where she belongs ) The politics in the selection process are worse than ever and there were kids on team 1 that anyone who has been around LI lacrosse long enough knows did not belong( side note CR and YJ are no longer involved).Several teams were over represented . Sorry but you have a player who has been considered 1 of the best players in the country in the 2018 age group for some time now who gets cut while a player from a below average team who is not good enough to play midfield on that team ( has 1 goal 0 assists on season ) make team 1 as a midfielder , of course her coach was at the tryouts . The result is the first time in a long time no LI team makes the finals.
Yale was a poor venue for this event .

Thanks for the update. Not surprised by any means. Too much politics on LI, too many phone calls by mommy and daddy and too many undeserving, self-serving ball hogging girls being rewarded with placements on theses teams. Again, not surprised at all it is no longer a team sport on LI. Parents and coaches are ruining the sport.

Yeah--and speaking of stat padding. When you see parents promoting stats over wins there will be a problem. Especially with team chemistry. When mommy starts spouting off about how many goals her daughter has, and your not winning a lot of games, well that's a recipe for your daughter to have no friends on that team. Just saying. Brag about wins, not goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ma/Ri team 1 and 2 won both divisions... pretty sad considering the two team beat the 1 team when they played. What is happening on LI people, why can't we put together good teams anymore.

It's politics . You had certain high school coaches show up as evaluators to simply put undeserving kids from their districts on teams .WH, SE completely over represented on team 1 and I am sure there were other high schools who had evaluators there that pushed some of their own kids and the end result is the worst showing by Long Island in the history of the tournament . Bring back CR if you want to start winning this thing again .

You have the ELEVATE DIRECTOR involved in picking teams. What do you think is going to happen? You have a director from a sub-par club picking kids from his club who have barely any college commitments. Think about it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Being from wi, I am neither a fan of mc or np. However, Mc player deserves this before she graduates. Polished talented player who relies on skill to get job done.

there is no ''deserves'' in sports. The team who plays better that day wins. That's why they play the games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah--and speaking of stat padding. When you see parents promoting stats over wins there will be a problem. Especially with team chemistry. When mommy starts spouting off about how many goals her daughter has, and your not winning a lot of games, well that's a recipe for your daughter to have no friends on that team. Just saying. Brag about wins, not goals.

its all about getting your kid recruited and the [lacrosse] with everyone else. I love this game and HATE HATE HATE what it has become. 3rd and 4th daughter still playing so I have been around a while

CR is as crooked as they come with the evaluations however the best talent (although much weaker than in the past) is still playing for the YJ's. So if you over pick YJ's the odds are you are getter better players. By over picking from weaker clubs well you get weaker kids. Anyway the whole sport is a joke its just about getting recruited whether you are in 3rd grade or 11th. If this is your 2nd sport or spring sport just quit now because the girls looking to get recruited are only in it for themselves and ruin it for the girls who just want to play

That is incorrect. MA/RI had 4 teams. Team 1, 2 and 3 won their divisions. Team 4 lost to Team 3 in their respective division's final.

Also incorrect. Team 1 LI beat Team 2 LI 13-10. If you were referring to MA/RI Team 1 and 2, they did not play each other. Team 1 would win by a good margin however.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR is as crooked as they come with the evaluations however the best talent (although much weaker than in the past) is still playing for the YJ's. So if you over pick YJ's the odds are you are getter better players. By over picking from weaker clubs well you get weaker kids. Anyway the whole sport is a joke its just about getting recruited whether you are in 3rd grade or 11th. If this is your 2nd sport or spring sport just quit now because the girls looking to get recruited are only in it for themselves and ruin it for the girls who just want to play

I have to disagree in that I watched a lot of kids that are committed this past weekend act like complete ball hogs .Team 1 LI you had a GC kid the whole weekend act as if she were the only player on the field , her shooting percentage for the weekend must have been hovering around 20 percent. Then in the finals LI team 1 vs team 2 you have a ball hog kid charging to goal with 20 seconds left with her team up by 3 . Tries to charge thru 4 kids to pad her stats ( no other reason to go to goal at that point) and gets a few teeth knocked out for her troubles. These kids are already committed so the ball hog its all about me style of play is more a character issue .

There is no need to single out a kid like this. It makes you as big a jerk anyone on the field or associated with the tryouts.

For those booster club leaders and travel parents who want to box out every non travel lacrosse player because its not their #1 sport, go check out probably the best kid in the country from BC who is a part time player due to playing her #1 sport which is hockey. Just because some kids don't drink the kool aid and travel the east coast every summer weekend doesn't mean they cant play or that they don't love to play.

Here's a message to the HS players, their coaches and parents, PASS THE BALL, nobody cares about your daughters stats except you. It's a team game

No Elevate coaches or directors were involved in the tryouts or coaching teams this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no need to single out a kid like this. It makes you as big a jerk anyone on the field or associated with the tryouts.

Sorry was really just trying to say the ball hog behavior does not seem to be about recruiting and honestly tell me why a kid is going to the goal up by 3 with 20 seconds left in the game. I felt bad for the kid getting hurt but that is more compassion than most of the parents on the sideline felt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no need to single out a kid like this. It makes you as big a jerk anyone on the field or associated with the tryouts.

English pls

Any upsets in Suffolk County championship games today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no need to single out a kid like this. It makes you as big a jerk anyone on the field or associated with the tryouts.

Sorry was really just trying to say the ball hog behavior does not seem to be about recruiting and honestly tell me why a kid is going to the goal up by 3 with 20 seconds left in the game. I felt bad for the kid getting hurt but that is more compassion than most of the parents on the sideline felt.

I'd join in on the bashing but I saw the kid play. She does not play the "ball hog" game. Sucks her teeth got knocked out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no need to single out a kid like this. It makes you as big a jerk anyone on the field or associated with the tryouts.

Sorry was really just trying to say the ball hog behavior does not seem to be about recruiting and honestly tell me why a kid is going to the goal up by 3 with 20 seconds left in the game. I felt bad for the kid getting hurt but that is more compassion than most of the parents on the sideline felt.

Are you kidding me? MANY of the parents from both teams were concerned for the young lady that got hurt. Most parents/players never like to see a kid get hurt so please stop with the "no one felt compassion" crap, it simply isn't true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no need to single out a kid like this. It makes you as big a jerk anyone on the field or associated with the tryouts.

Sorry was really just trying to say the ball hog behavior does not seem to be about recruiting and honestly tell me why a kid is going to the goal up by 3 with 20 seconds left in the game. I felt bad for the kid getting hurt but that is more compassion than most of the parents on the sideline felt.

I'd join in on the bashing but I saw the kid play. She does not play the "ball hog" game. Sucks her teeth got knocked out.

How do you explain the last 20 sec in the game? maybe she was trying to create...

[quote=Anonymous]Any upsets in Suffolk County championship games today? [/quote

Northport over MC.
BBP over My. Sinai.
Rocky pt over ESM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Any upsets in Suffolk County championship games today? [/quote

Northport over MC.
BBP over My. Sinai.
Rocky pt over ESM

Northport over MC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no need to single out a kid like this. It makes you as big a jerk anyone on the field or associated with the tryouts.

Sorry was really just trying to say the ball hog behavior does not seem to be about recruiting and honestly tell me why a kid is going to the goal up by 3 with 20 seconds left in the game. I felt bad for the kid getting hurt but that is more compassion than most of the parents on the sideline felt.

I'd join in on the bashing but I saw the kid play. She does not play the "ball hog" game. Sucks her teeth got knocked out.

How do you explain the last 20 sec in the game? maybe she was trying to create...

That's funny

Shows the regular season and team rankings were right in Nassau. All the #1's are playing the #2's except for the Port upset over Syosset in the finals this week

Look for all the #1's to be victorious with CSH having the best chance as a #2

MC rolling at half-time.

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Nighty night Dusty Rhodes

Not

whose the loser now - big mouth -

Congrats to MC

How many county award levels are there for suffolk ?
All county, all conference etc.?

Has anyone ever heard of or played in The National Lacrosse Classic senior games? Daughter keeps getting emails she was "selected" but it $250 and in Virginia.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Possibly, but WM would have had to first teach a few of their middies how to move the ball. Not all about stat padding, but then again that seems to get rewarded

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Any upsets in Suffolk County championship games today? [/quote

Northport over MC.
BBP over My. Sinai.
Rocky pt over ESM

Northport over MC

NORTHPORT GOT KILLED BY MC!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3
THATS JUSTICE FOR NORTHPORT!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also incorrect. Team 1 LI beat Team 2 LI 13-10. If you were referring to MA/RI Team 1 and 2, they did not play each other. Team 1 would win by a good margin however.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also incorrect. Team 1 LI beat Team 2 LI 13-10. If you were referring to MA/RI Team 1 and 2, they did not play each other. Team 1 would win by a good margin however.

They did play before the tourney and Ma/ri 2 beat them because the coaches evaluating put their players on the 1 team

Congratulations to Middle Country. Only game I'll be able to see today. I was impressed by Middle Country's defense. Congratulations to Northport as well. As a #5 seed they beat some good teams to get there, just met a better team then any they had played to that date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3
THATS JUSTICE FOR NORTHPORT!!!!!

Seems the ALL CAPS mom is still crying that her daughter's team LOST. Get over it.......find a hobby!

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

My goodness...you need to get over it...MC destroyed NP today--hats off to them...they are a great team and deserve it...
To say WM would have been closer--well, you gotta get there first, so really a moot point.
It is a shame--the WM team was great this year--but anybody who reads this site hates WM because of this idiot...too bad, takes the luster off an otherwise great season for them...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

WaaaWaaa, funny comment coming from a disgruntled loser. Grow up and take your loss and move on. Degrading the winner just makes you look like more of the loser you already are.

Lol! NP would be the first to admit they ran into a better team today...MC was great--hats off to them and best of luck at LIC!

What in the world are you babbling about? You are making stuff up. MA/RI Team 2 did not play Team 1 before the tournament. The evaluation process occurred at tryouts and the teams had 1 joint practice. 1 girl on team 1 got hurt and a girl from team 2 was brought up for the tournament. Congrats btw to MA/RI teams who all performed extremely well in the tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Possibly, but WM would have had to first teach a few of their middies how to move the ball. Not all about stat padding, but then again that seems to get rewarded

Waaa waaa waaaa. Stop throwing your own team under the bus! They are better players that can actually get the job done. Get over it.

Rocky Point got throttled again by ESM for the second time this season tonight and took Class B .. They Never had a chance !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rocky Point got throttled again by ESM for the second time this season tonight and took Class B .. They Never had a chance !

RP couldn't win a draw or ground ball and clueless coach never made an adjustment to try something different. Coasted through the regular season against bad teams then couldn't compete against a good one. Difference in shots and goals pretty much matched the time of possession.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Possibly, but WM would have had to first teach a few of their middies how to move the ball. Not all about stat padding, but then again that seems to get rewarded

Waaa waaa waaaa. Stop throwing your own team under the bus! They are better players that can actually get the job done. Get over it.

New flash....WM did not get anything done so not sure what players you are talking about that can "get the job done." Didn't happen this year, last year or any year. They completely collapsed in semi's. If they were better should have been playing today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

WaaaWaaa, funny comment coming from a disgruntled loser. Grow up and take your loss and move on. Degrading the winner just makes you look like more of the loser you already are.

The only losers are in the NP parents, coaches and school administrators. What an embarrassment you all are. I wasn't degrading anyone but you but you're to stupid to realize that. You're too stupid to realize that I'm not a WM parent, But just following then preteen antics of some fat wanna be rich a-hole whose daughter just got her [lacrosse] kicked because they aren't as good as you thought. 13-3 by MC with the Queen Bee at the helm...., Bahahahahahah You you're daughters, your town, your schools, and especially your coach are so bas, I maen come on man 13-3, you looked like a middle school team playing against Maryland. But maybe next year that she/man can get you another state title with that pathetic talent pool in NP, what a talent she is, 25+ years and what...2 state champs, good at spotting talent just not good at coaching, but that like being able to spot water at a beach, or maybe she is just to distracted by trying to keep your thighs to of jail? either way the only loser is really you laughing at people after a 13-3 loss... will you also be laughing when your little princess is convicted of grand larceny or is she just following in daddy's footsteps?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

WaaaWaaa, funny comment coming from a disgruntled loser. Grow up and take your loss and move on. Degrading the winner just makes you look like more of the loser you already are.

The only losers are in the NP parents, coaches and school administrators. What an embarrassment you all are. I wasn't degrading anyone but you but you're to stupid to realize that. You're too stupid to realize that I'm not a WM parent, But just following then preteen antics of some fat wanna be rich a-hole whose daughter just got her [lacrosse] kicked because they aren't as good as you thought. 13-3 by MC with the Queen Bee at the helm...., Bahahahahahah You you're daughters, your town, your schools, and especially your coach are so bas, I maen come on man 13-3, you looked like a middle school team playing against Maryland. But maybe next year that she/man can get you another state title with that pathetic talent pool in NP, what a talent she is, 25+ years and what...2 state champs, good at spotting talent just not good at coaching, but that like being able to spot water at a beach, or maybe she is just to distracted by trying to keep your thighs to of jail? either way the only loser is really you laughing at people after a 13-3 loss... will you also be laughing when your little princess is convicted of grand larceny or is she just following in daddy's footsteps?

There's help out there.. get some

Mt. Sinai...4th straight Suffolk B title. It says something about the program when you're able to sustain this level of play over this many years. And before all the haters out there depict me for being from Sinai, I'm not. I don't have a horse in the race as my daughter graduated two years ago from a neighboring school district. Just amazed at how good this program is overall. Good luck to them against either CSH or Wantagh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

Okay, but poultry? Really what does a chicken have to do with lacrosse ? I'm not from NP, but you seem a tad bitter my friend.

LOL- my thoughts exactly- there's free clinics available if you need them- good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai...4th straight Suffolk B title. It says something about the program when you're able to sustain this level of play over this many years. And before all the haters out there depict me for being from Sinai, I'm not. I don't have a horse in the race as my daughter graduated two years ago from a neighboring school district. Just amazed at how good this program is overall. Good luck to them against either CSH or Wantagh.

Third. 2017, 2016, 2015. They lost to BBP in 2014.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those booster club leaders and travel parents who want to box out every non travel lacrosse player because its not their #1 sport, go check out probably the best kid in the country from BC who is a part time player due to playing her #1 sport which is hockey. Just because some kids don't drink the kool aid and travel the east coast every summer weekend doesn't mean they cant play or that they don't love to play.

Here's a message to the HS players, their coaches and parents, PASS THE BALL, nobody cares about your daughters stats except you. It's a team game

BC Girls was awesome

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

WaaaWaaa, funny comment coming from a disgruntled loser. Grow up and take your loss and move on. Degrading the winner just makes you look like more of the loser you already are.

The only losers are in the NP parents, coaches and school administrators. What an embarrassment you all are. I wasn't degrading anyone but you but you're to stupid to realize that. You're too stupid to realize that I'm not a WM parent, But just following then preteen antics of some fat wanna be rich a-hole whose daughter just got her [lacrosse] kicked because they aren't as good as you thought. 13-3 by MC with the Queen Bee at the helm...., Bahahahahahah You you're daughters, your town, your schools, and especially your coach are so bas, I maen come on man 13-3, you looked like a middle school team playing against Maryland. But maybe next year that she/man can get you another state title with that pathetic talent pool in NP, what a talent she is, 25+ years and what...2 state champs, good at spotting talent just not good at coaching, but that like being able to spot water at a beach, or maybe she is just to distracted by trying to keep your thighs to of jail? either way the only loser is really you laughing at people after a 13-3 loss... will you also be laughing when your little princess is convicted of grand larceny or is she just following in daddy's footsteps?

WHY would you allow such an [lacrosse] of a human speak on this site? This is an embarrassment to all of the LI teams and will unfortunately represent our lacrosse community. This is disgusting!

Don't blame the rp coach on the outcome , seriously the people surrounding and suffocating him are the only clueless ones !
The coach cannot make sudden adjustments to girls who played all season long to get ground balls they had plenty of time to practice during the season for this night to get it right ! They were truly outplayed and truly not as good as many think they are to compete against ESM or any other top tier team . So moving forward till next year enjoy travel season and keep your mouth shut and nose clean !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rocky Point got throttled again by ESM for the second time this season tonight and took Class B .. They Never had a chance !

RP couldn't win a draw or ground ball and clueless coach never made an adjustment to try something different. Coasted through the regular season against bad teams then couldn't compete against a good one. Difference in shots and goals pretty much matched the time of possession.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Sounds like a typical Top Gun Psycho Daddy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai...4th straight Suffolk B title. It says something about the program when you're able to sustain this level of play over this many years. And before all the haters out there depict me for being from Sinai, I'm not. I don't have a horse in the race as my daughter graduated two years ago from a neighboring school district. Just amazed at how good this program is overall. Good luck to them against either CSH or Wantagh.

MS is class C, which in some years makes it even more impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3
THATS JUSTICE FOR NORTHPORT!!!!!

Seems the ALL CAPS mom is still crying that her daughter's team LOST. Get over it.......find a hobby!

It's the four eyed TG PSYCHO DADDY again. This guy absolutely hates CR. He need to get a hobby.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rocky Point got throttled again by ESM for the second time this season tonight and took Class B .. They Never had a chance !

As bad as it was, they actually had some chances. Must have blown at least 7-8 free positions when they got good shots off - 3 early in the game that helped to get momentum going the other way - and way too many unforced errors, throwing the ball away, hanging stick to be checked, etc. ESM definitely the better team (again), but could have been closer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

WaaaWaaa, funny comment coming from a disgruntled loser. Grow up and take your loss and move on. Degrading the winner just makes you look like more of the loser you already are.

The only losers are in the NP parents, coaches and school administrators. What an embarrassment you all are. I wasn't degrading anyone but you but you're to stupid to realize that. You're too stupid to realize that I'm not a WM parent, But just following then preteen antics of some fat wanna be rich a-hole whose daughter just got her [lacrosse] kicked because they aren't as good as you thought. 13-3 by MC with the Queen Bee at the helm...., Bahahahahahah You you're daughters, your town, your schools, and especially your coach are so bas, I maen come on man 13-3, you looked like a middle school team playing against Maryland. But maybe next year that she/man can get you another state title with that pathetic talent pool in NP, what a talent she is, 25+ years and what...2 state champs, good at spotting talent just not good at coaching, but that like being able to spot water at a beach, or maybe she is just to distracted by trying to keep your thighs to of jail? either way the only loser is really you laughing at people after a 13-3 loss... will you also be laughing when your little princess is convicted of grand larceny or is she just following in daddy's footsteps?

WHY would you allow such an [lacrosse] of a human speak on this site? This is an embarrassment to all of the LI teams and will unfortunately represent our lacrosse community. This is disgusting!

Why would you think that any normal person would think this poster represents anything other than an anti drinking and posting example. Its actually very sad and readers should be more sympathetic than angry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Final 13-3
THATS JUSTICE FOR NORTHPORT!!!!!

Seems the ALL CAPS mom is still crying that her daughter's team LOST. Get over it.......find a hobby!

It's the four eyed TG PSYCHO DADDY again. This guy absolutely hates CR. He need to get a hobby.

The short weird looking dude from MC who is on TG Black. A true CR hater no doubt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

WaaaWaaa, funny comment coming from a disgruntled loser. Grow up and take your loss and move on. Degrading the winner just makes you look like more of the loser you already are.

The only losers are in the NP parents, coaches and school administrators. What an embarrassment you all are. I wasn't degrading anyone but you but you're to stupid to realize that. You're too stupid to realize that I'm not a WM parent, But just following then preteen antics of some fat wanna be rich a-hole whose daughter just got her [lacrosse] kicked because they aren't as good as you thought. 13-3 by MC with the Queen Bee at the helm...., Bahahahahahah You you're daughters, your town, your schools, and especially your coach are so bas, I maen come on man 13-3, you looked like a middle school team playing against Maryland. But maybe next year that she/man can get you another state title with that pathetic talent pool in NP, what a talent she is, 25+ years and what...2 state champs, good at spotting talent just not good at coaching, but that like being able to spot water at a beach, or maybe she is just to distracted by trying to keep your thighs to of jail? either way the only loser is really you laughing at people after a 13-3 loss... will you also be laughing when your little princess is convicted of grand larceny or is she just following in daddy's footsteps?

WHY would you allow such an [lacrosse] of a human speak on this site? This is an embarrassment to all of the LI teams and will unfortunately represent our lacrosse community. This is disgusting!

Why would you think that any normal person would think this poster represents anything other than an anti drinking and posting example. Its actually very sad and readers should be more sympathetic than angry.

How funny, I was thinking the same thing, he must have been so drunk when he wrote that. If not...oh boy, someone is seriously in need of a book of the month club and a reading tutor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

Okay, but poultry? Really what does a chicken have to do with lacrosse ? I'm not from NP, but you seem a tad bitter my friend.

I'd be bitter too if I lived in the slums of Centereach/Selden and my kid was in a crappy school district.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai...4th straight Suffolk B title. It says something about the program when you're able to sustain this level of play over this many years. And before all the haters out there depict me for being from Sinai, I'm not. I don't have a horse in the race as my daughter graduated two years ago from a neighboring school district. Just amazed at how good this program is overall. Good luck to them against either CSH or Wantagh.

MS is class C, which in some years makes it even more impressive.

You're correct, my bad. Sinai is Class C. Thanks

Can anyone at the game comment on the three 8th grade players that were brought up to varsity for ESM, did any of them step foot on the field? According to the ESM AD at a school board meeting, any middle school players brought up to Varsity, must be extraordinary players who contribute as a key members of the team and participate in MORE than 50% of games. During the regular season, they played in a VERY small % of games (well under 30%) and essentially zero time in close match ups. What is most interesting about this is that the 'AD' who fought for this rule to be implemented by the school board is now giving out exceptions to his own rule to help his 'friends', forcing them on the Varsity coach. Maybe the new superintendent should investigate BM for this behavior as it seems like he is showing 'favoritism' to his football buddy and their two friends. The new ESM superintenent should not allow a corrupt AD from ruining the sports programs at ESM. I am sure that once they peel back the onion, more of his deeds will be uncovered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

Okay, but poultry? Really what does a chicken have to do with lacrosse ? I'm not from NP, but you seem a tad bitter my friend.

I'd be bitter too if I lived in the slums of Centereach/Selden and my kid was in a crappy school district.

hmm, didn't know that, do they have a chicken problem as well? Pretty funny that a guy who makes that post calls others childish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

I think it's harder for the teams Northport beat as a #5 seed to get to the finals. Middle Country was by far the better team yesterday but Northport did beat teams to get to that final. That's the way it goes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

Okay, but poultry? Really what does a chicken have to do with lacrosse ? I'm not from NP, but you seem a tad bitter my friend.

I'd be bitter too if I lived in the slums of Centereach/Selden and my kid was in a crappy school district.

hmm, didn't know that, do they have a chicken problem as well? Pretty funny that a guy who makes that post calls others childish.

Seeing as paltry and poultry are very close I'd assume a spell check issue

I don't think the response to a grown up typing hahahah over and over again is nearly as childish

It does bring up a lot of good points

How childish and obnoxious are you for calling Centereach/Selden a slum and MC a bad school district.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

Okay, but poultry? Really what does a chicken have to do with lacrosse ? I'm not from NP, but you seem a tad bitter my friend.

I'd be bitter too if I lived in the slums of Centereach/Selden and my kid was in a crappy school district.

hmm, didn't know that, do they have a chicken problem as well? Pretty funny that a guy who makes that post calls others childish.

Seeing as paltry and poultry are very close I'd assume a spell check issue

I don't think the response to a grown up typing hahahah over and over again is nearly as childish

It does bring up a lot of good points

How childish and obnoxious are you for calling Centereach/Selden a slum and MC a bad school district.

Calling someplace a slum is not childish if its true. What good points were written? If it's a spell check issue, then spell check. The poster writes like a drunken moron, that's all.

Coach is a class act and just a great program--hats off to them...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those booster club leaders and travel parents who want to box out every non travel lacrosse player because its not their #1 sport, go check out probably the best kid in the country from BC who is a part time player due to playing her #1 sport which is hockey. Just because some kids don't drink the kool aid and travel the east coast every summer weekend doesn't mean they cant play or that they don't love to play.

Here's a message to the HS players, their coaches and parents, PASS THE BALL, nobody cares about your daughters stats except you. It's a team game

BC Girls was awesome

I hope you are talking about the college girls... Mt. Sinia shut down you know who.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

Okay, but poultry? Really what does a chicken have to do with lacrosse ? I'm not from NP, but you seem a tad bitter my friend.

I'd be bitter too if I lived in the slums of Centereach/Selden and my kid was in a crappy school district.

hmm, didn't know that, do they have a chicken problem as well? Pretty funny that a guy who makes that post calls others childish.

Seeing as paltry and poultry are very close I'd assume a spell check issue

I don't think the response to a grown up typing hahahah over and over again is nearly as childish

It does bring up a lot of good points

How childish and obnoxious are you for calling Centereach/Selden a slum and MC a bad school district.

Assuming the poster is using a regular keyboard the A and the OU are NOWHERE near each other. The poster thought the proper term was POULTRY (domestic fowl, such as chickens, turkeys, ducks, and geese), not PALTRY (small or meager) which is really sad. The poster has no idea what the difference is. Point two: two wrongs don't make a right (wright). Point three: It? It was a fictional character in a Stephen King Novel, so unless he wrote the post, I don't get it. Point four: Never been to Centereach or Selden, but over 6% of the population lives below the poverty line so it is a rather low income neighborhood. Only the Facts Please!

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It must be hard for the faux-rich up in Northport to lose to the blue collar MC team. Will you excuse the dismantling of your super team the same way excused the grand larceny, the poultry punishment, the weak leadership from the coach, the school, and the parents? You deserve every comment you receive because of the inflammatory and childish posts that you parents left on this site in the week leading up to the beating you just took/deserved. Bad parenting, coaching, and school leadership leads to another almost season for NP.

I think it's harder for the teams Northport beat as a #5 seed to get to the finals. Middle Country was by far the better team yesterday but Northport did beat teams to get to that final. That's the way it goes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those booster club leaders and travel parents who want to box out every non travel lacrosse player because its not their #1 sport, go check out probably the best kid in the country from BC who is a part time player due to playing her #1 sport which is hockey. Just because some kids don't drink the kool aid and travel the east coast every summer weekend doesn't mean they cant play or that they don't love to play.

Here's a message to the HS players, their coaches and parents, PASS THE BALL, nobody cares about your daughters stats except you. It's a team game

BC Girls was awesome

Kenzie Kent is the best player in the country. She is also an amazing hockey player. It is somewhat wrong to call her number one sport growing up hockey, although now in college it is. Growing up she played plenty of lacrosse and did play club etc. And yes, she played for Mass Elite. A Massachusetts kid. A lot of bashing has happened on here about Mass Elite and Massachusetts players. She is the best recent example of some great players that are coming out of the New England area. Congrats to her and a gutsy effort by the BC team. One of the best performances ever in the NCAA finals and it's her "2nd" sport. Wow!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone at the game comment on the three 8th grade players that were brought up to varsity for ESM, did any of them step foot on the field? According to the ESM AD at a school board meeting, any middle school players brought up to Varsity, must be extraordinary players who contribute as a key members of the team and participate in MORE than 50% of games. During the regular season, they played in a VERY small % of games (well under 30%) and essentially zero time in close match ups. What is most interesting about this is that the 'AD' who fought for this rule to be implemented by the school board is now giving out exceptions to his own rule to help his 'friends', forcing them on the Varsity coach. Maybe the new superintendent should investigate BM for this behavior as it seems like he is showing 'favoritism' to his football buddy and their two friends. The new ESM superintenent should not allow a corrupt AD from ruining the sports programs at ESM. I am sure that once they peel back the onion, more of his deeds will be uncovered.

Not from your town, but know of the three in question, and everyone of them extremely talented, part of a very talented group of 8th graders. You also have a pretty good group of 9th graders as well. I hear all the nightmares from ESM parents from my sons sports and my daughters sports (sometimes just overhearing them [lacrosse] and complain to other ESm parents). a whole bunch of crazy rules implemented by your asz backwards BOE... MS girls can't play JV but can play Varsity, but only if its Tuesday of a leap year, except if it's basketball then they can play JV on Wednesdays, but no other sports, except for wrestling if your last name starts with a B.... and so on... How about instead let the head coach make the decisions for the program, short term and long term (and also not discriminating against her because of perceived sexuality as well) It's the coaches program, and they/she has to live with the end result no matter what the sport. Sounds like your entire system is corrupt in ESM. So start by getting rid of your Board of Ed and letting people do their jobs, and stop all your crying. Suzy can play, just may be on JV or MS until she gets her shot, you have a great program with great players, many great players at great programs have to wait their turn. You want her to play sooner move to a weaker lacrosse town and she probably could play 5-6 years on Varsity. Congrats on your championship.

Don't know about you, but all this talk about paltry is making me hungry.

remind me again, is Middle Country one of those 2 school teams? Scam scam scam.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

remind me again, is Middle Country one of those 2 school teams? Scam scam scam.

It doesn't matter after this year they are done.

Who won the Nassau A Game?

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the Nassau A Game?

they play today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the Nassau A Game?

The A game is tonight. Garden City won the B's over Long Beach and Wantagh won the C's over Cold Spring Harbor last night

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone at the game comment on the three 8th grade players that were brought up to varsity for ESM, did any of them step foot on the field? According to the ESM AD at a school board meeting, any middle school players brought up to Varsity, must be extraordinary players who contribute as a key members of the team and participate in MORE than 50% of games. During the regular season, they played in a VERY small % of games (well under 30%) and essentially zero time in close match ups. What is most interesting about this is that the 'AD' who fought for this rule to be implemented by the school board is now giving out exceptions to his own rule to help his 'friends', forcing them on the Varsity coach. Maybe the new superintendent should investigate BM for this behavior as it seems like he is showing 'favoritism' to his football buddy and their two friends. The new ESM superintenent should not allow a corrupt AD from ruining the sports programs at ESM. I am sure that once they peel back the onion, more of his deeds will be uncovered.

Not from your town, but know of the three in question, and everyone of them extremely talented, part of a very talented group of 8th graders. You also have a pretty good group of 9th graders as well. I hear all the nightmares from ESM parents from my sons sports and my daughters sports (sometimes just overhearing them [lacrosse] and complain to other ESm parents). a whole bunch of crazy rules implemented by your asz backwards BOE... MS girls can't play JV but can play Varsity, but only if its Tuesday of a leap year, except if it's basketball then they can play JV on Wednesdays, but no other sports, except for wrestling if your last name starts with a B.... and so on... How about instead let the head coach make the decisions for the program, short term and long term (and also not discriminating against her because of perceived sexuality as well) It's the coaches program, and they/she has to live with the end result no matter what the sport. Sounds like your entire system is corrupt in ESM. So start by getting rid of your Board of Ed and letting people do their jobs, and stop all your crying. Suzy can play, just may be on JV or MS until she gets her shot, you have a great program with great players, many great players at great programs have to wait their turn. You want her to play sooner move to a weaker lacrosse town and she probably could play 5-6 years on Varsity. Congrats on your championship.

While I was not. At the game and can not comment on the 8th grade brought up -
Here is my advice - don't worry about it your kid will get get shot
She needs to make the best of the time she gets 1-2-3-4 years
What ever the case may be
Best of luck in the future
As far as the wrestler with the last name beginning with B
Adam is ine of of the elite wrestlers in the country
He was at a level in 7th grade that most don't even scratch as a senior
He was a HS state finalist and I believe a super 32 champ
That event attracts wrestlers from across the country with brackets exceeding 100 wrestlers per weight class
Him being anywhere but varsity would have been a utter waste of time

Congrats GC and Wantagh showing once again that the rest of Nassau isn't even close to them.

I would think the LI B and C matchups should be good games with the edge to GC over ESM in B and MS over Wan in C.
As for A and D, no matter who wins in Nassau today, the edge goes to MC and Matt but then again, I am a Suffolk county guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats GC and Wantagh showing once again that the rest of Nassau isn't even close to them.

And the unfortunate thing is that GC vs ESM and Wantagh vs MTS should both be the state finals IMO. Getting off LI is so difficult. I have GC over ESM in a close one and MTS should beat Wantagh by a decent margin. Good luck to all the teams

When and where are those games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats GC and Wantagh showing once again that the rest of Nassau isn't even close to them.

You apparently didn't go to many games in Nassau or check many scores. See the scores of the games Pequa Syo and Port played against both of them. Better yes but Not close is a stretch my friend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

KARMA IS HITTING
NOT EVEN OVER AND MC WINNING 11 TO 3 - 13 MINUTES LEFT
WOULD HAVE BEEN A GAME IF WM PLAYED

Sounds like a typical Top Gun Psycho Daddy!

Nope - neither a top gun parent or ward melville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Please, Please, please do away with the draw. They used to have a tip off after every score in basketball, could you imagine? Kills the game, but what kills the game even worse is watching your draw "specialist" lose 90% of the draws and you have to sit through a game with near zero possession, and lose to teams solely because so much rides on one fine tuned skill. Would much rather see the teams overall skill set of all they girls weigh more heavily than winning or losing because one single girl is either good or bad at one single thing. Please kill the draw!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

That has been tossed around the last couple of years. The draw is such an important part of the game, especially moving on to the collegiate level, that it would be a disservice to the athlete. It comes from the thought of a "fair" competition (i.e.,let the losing team get the ball) but ultimately I think it would be bad.

The point being made is that the coaches should be the ones to dictate the needs of their programs versus an AD that is in WAY OVER HIS HEAD (Only accomplishment on his part is being a member of the all boys club along with the assist principle and dean - since they all hang out in BM's office)... The only two sports he gives a crap about are Football and Wrestling and he only care about wrestling because the coach takes zero crap from BM and leverages the BOE to muscle BM into making wrestling exempt from these stupid rules. The best players should play at a level complementary to their skills, but for a clueless AD to make that decision from his office (Since the only events he attends are football games - and then he has to cart his lazy rump around via golf cart) is crazy. Empower the coaches to do their jobs an build the programs as they see fit. I understand that those three players have talent, but to sit on the bench for varsity is doing NOTHING for their development, but as the rule states, they cannot play JV (where there would have played and improved along with several other 8th grade kids). This all goes back to an incompetent AD that the new superintendent must quickly fire...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Please, Please, please do away with the draw. They used to have a tip off after every score in basketball, could you imagine? Kills the game, but what kills the game even worse is watching your draw "specialist" lose 90% of the draws and you have to sit through a game with near zero possession, and lose to teams solely because so much rides on one fine tuned skill. Would much rather see the teams overall skill set of all they girls weigh more heavily than winning or losing because one single girl is either good or bad at one single thing. Please kill the draw!

Most draws are ugly anyway. Lets get some end to end action and let the best team WIN.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point being made is that the coaches should be the ones to dictate the needs of their programs versus an AD that is in WAY OVER HIS HEAD (Only accomplishment on his part is being a member of the all boys club along with the assist principle and dean - since they all hang out in BM's office)... The only two sports he gives a crap about are Football and Wrestling and he only care about wrestling because the coach takes zero crap from BM and leverages the BOE to muscle BM into making wrestling exempt from these stupid rules. The best players should play at a level complementary to their skills, but for a clueless AD to make that decision from his office (Since the only events he attends are football games - and then he has to cart his lazy rump around via golf cart) is crazy. Empower the coaches to do their jobs an build the programs as they see fit. I understand that those three players have talent, but to sit on the bench for varsity is doing NOTHING for their development, but as the rule states, they cannot play JV (where there would have played and improved along with several other 8th grade kids). This all goes back to an incompetent AD that the new superintendent must quickly fire...

I see your point, but can you imagine the AD telling the BOE he lets the coaches run the programs? Who will be held responsible when something bad happens? AD's are hired to manage the department. Much like principals are hired to run schools. My gut feeling is things would fall apart very quickly if you let coaches run the program autonomously. Just my opinion.

There are numerous sports that award the ball to the defensive team after a score. Would speed up the game, cut down on injuries and even the playing field a little.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When and where are those games?

Which games? If you're asking about the LI championships, they are at Adelphi on Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Please, Please, please do away with the draw. They used to have a tip off after every score in basketball, could you imagine? Kills the game, but what kills the game even worse is watching your draw "specialist" lose 90% of the draws and you have to sit through a game with near zero possession, and lose to teams solely because so much rides on one fine tuned skill. Would much rather see the teams overall skill set of all they girls weigh more heavily than winning or losing because one single girl is either good or bad at one single thing. Please kill the draw!

Absolutely.

It's a joke.

Get rid of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point being made is that the coaches should be the ones to dictate the needs of their programs versus an AD that is in WAY OVER HIS HEAD (Only accomplishment on his part is being a member of the all boys club along with the assist principle and dean - since they all hang out in BM's office)... The only two sports he gives a crap about are Football and Wrestling and he only care about wrestling because the coach takes zero crap from BM and leverages the BOE to muscle BM into making wrestling exempt from these stupid rules. The best players should play at a level complementary to their skills, but for a clueless AD to make that decision from his office (Since the only events he attends are football games - and then he has to cart his lazy rump around via golf cart) is crazy. Empower the coaches to do their jobs an build the programs as they see fit. I understand that those three players have talent, but to sit on the bench for varsity is doing NOTHING for their development, but as the rule states, they cannot play JV (where there would have played and improved along with several other 8th grade kids). This all goes back to an incompetent AD that the new superintendent must quickly fire...

I see your point, but can you imagine the AD telling the BOE he lets the coaches run the programs? Who will be held responsible when something bad happens? AD's are hired to manage the department. Much like principals are hired to run schools. My gut feeling is things would fall apart very quickly if you let coaches run the program autonomously. Just my opinion.

I believe they need to have an oversight into the programs. but to blindly support some teams and penalize others without a clue is worse. He was the one who imposed an idea that went against input from coaches and parents alike, omitting certain sports. Now he is offering waivers for 'friends' so that their kids do not have to live by the dumb rule he implemented in the first place. the rule either applies to everyone blindly, or you need to re-visit the spirit of the rule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an [lacrosse]! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Let's blame it on the coaching.

More than likely you are a snake who should just slither back under your rock but instead you are either trying to stir the pot or you are insinuating that it is all on the players. In any event, here is a high level view of the coaching track record. Not enough time to go into the details but this should paint a pretty clear picture for you.

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Agree, snake in the grass.

Record speaks for itself and does paint a very clear picture.

The Athletic Placement Process(APP) is posted on the ESM website for all to see. In order to be eligible to even try out for varsity, you need to meet certain criteria. One of them is the LIKELYHOOD that the athlete would play at least 50% of the games. It does not say that they must play 50% of the game.

Pequa in OT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Please, Please, please do away with the draw. They used to have a tip off after every score in basketball, could you imagine? Kills the game, but what kills the game even worse is watching your draw "specialist" lose 90% of the draws and you have to sit through a game with near zero possession, and lose to teams solely because so much rides on one fine tuned skill. Would much rather see the teams overall skill set of all they girls weigh more heavily than winning or losing because one single girl is either good or bad at one single thing. Please kill the draw!

Absolutely.

It's a joke.

Get rid of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Please, Please, please do away with the draw. They used to have a tip off after every score in basketball, could you imagine? Kills the game, but what kills the game even worse is watching your draw "specialist" lose 90% of the draws and you have to sit through a game with near zero possession, and lose to teams solely because so much rides on one fine tuned skill. Would much rather see the teams overall skill set of all they girls weigh more heavily than winning or losing because one single girl is either good or bad at one single thing. Please kill the draw!

Absolutely.

It's a joke.

Get rid of it.

It looks very likely US Lax will get rid of the draw. This thinking certainly has gained much momentum the last couple of years. The survey they are asking all coaches and administrators if this is a well accepted idea, so it is definitely their major proposal for rule changes coming up. That along with asking about how well received are the other recent rules that were adopted, but it does look like this is coming, thank god.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Athletic Placement Process(APP) is posted on the ESM website for all to see. In order to be eligible to even try out for varsity, you need to meet certain criteria. One of them is the LIKELYHOOD that the athlete would play at least 50% of the games. It does not say that they must play 50% of the game.

Is part of the academic requirement that they spell likelihood correctly?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa in OT

crickets

Let the LIC predictions begin.....

Three relatively close games with the winners being MC, GC, and MS and one blowout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the LIC predictions begin.....

Three relatively close games with the winners being MC, GC, and MS and one blowout

The only close game will be GC-ESM. The Nassau D champ is 4-8 on the season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Please, Please, please do away with the draw. They used to have a tip off after every score in basketball, could you imagine? Kills the game, but what kills the game even worse is watching your draw "specialist" lose 90% of the draws and you have to sit through a game with near zero possession, and lose to teams solely because so much rides on one fine tuned skill. Would much rather see the teams overall skill set of all they girls weigh more heavily than winning or losing because one single girl is either good or bad at one single thing. Please kill the draw!

Absolutely.

It's a joke.

Get rid of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse posted a Girls Rules Survey on twitter. Please take a moment to complete it.

In youth lacrosse, they are considering limiting the draw to beginning of first and second halves only. After goals, the defensive team would get possession at the goal line extended. Similar to football, basketball, and soccer where the scored upon team gets the ball back. IMO, would improve player development by getting more players involved and make games more exciting to watch.

What's your opinion?

uslax.in/2qFhLpO

Please, Please, please do away with the draw. They used to have a tip off after every score in basketball, could you imagine? Kills the game, but what kills the game even worse is watching your draw "specialist" lose 90% of the draws and you have to sit through a game with near zero possession, and lose to teams solely because so much rides on one fine tuned skill. Would much rather see the teams overall skill set of all they girls weigh more heavily than winning or losing because one single girl is either good or bad at one single thing. Please kill the draw!

Absolutely.

It's a joke.

Get rid of it.

It looks very likely US Lax will get rid of the draw. This thinking certainly has gained much momentum the last couple of years. The survey they are asking all coaches and administrators if this is a well accepted idea, so it is definitely their major proposal for rule changes coming up. That along with asking about how well received are the other recent rules that were adopted, but it does look like this is coming, thank god.

Get rid of it the game would be fast paced and more exciting without the draw more like basketball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa in OT

crickets

sorry but we have better things to do than to jump on here on a thursday evening

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Athletic Placement Process(APP) is posted on the ESM website for all to see. In order to be eligible to even try out for varsity, you need to meet certain criteria. One of them is the LIKELYHOOD that the athlete would play at least 50% of the games. It does not say that they must play 50% of the game.

Is part of the academic requirement that they spell likelihood correctly?

My guess is that the intended definition of 'likelihood' did not intend for those 'APP' athletes to have so little value to the team that they played roughly zero minutes in any non blowout game. 'Likelihood' typically means that that they would be "superior athletes" that would gain the confidence of the coaches to be on the field for 'at least 50% of the games"

They should have been allowed to play at a level of their ability, where they would actually see the field and develop their skills versus sitting on the bench working on their post goal sideline routines. Read the minutes of BM's presentation to the BOE, it was clear that he wanted to only pull up athletes that can contribute on the field Day 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the LIC predictions begin.....

Three relatively close games with the winners being MC, GC, and MS and one blowout

The only close game will be GC-ESM. The Nassau D champ is 4-8 on the season

don't overlook Pequa they can play, but will probably need to face guard the best player in the country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the LIC predictions begin.....

Three relatively close games with the winners being MC, GC, and MS and one blowout

The only close game will be GC-ESM. The Nassau D champ is 4-8 on the season

don't overlook Pequa they can play, but will probably need to face guard the best player in the country

Baaaaaaaa-haaaaaaaa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the LIC predictions begin.....

Three relatively close games with the winners being MC, GC, and MS and one blowout

The only close game will be GC-ESM. The Nassau D champ is 4-8 on the season

don't overlook Pequa they can play, but will probably need to face guard the best player in the country

Baaaaaaaa-haaaaaaaa

Don't take the daddy bait. Someone want's us to talk about a pequa kid... yawn

The two best games as far as being competitive are ESM/GC and MS/Wan.
Maybe Mass can keep it close and CP is wishing it was Field Hockey.

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible [/quote]"

Can anyone explain how the all tournament awards are given in the playoff games? I understand that coaches choose all division, all conference, all county after being awarded a certain number to fill, but who chooses the all tournament awards.....your own coach, opposing coaches, officials or section reps?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"
[/quote]
You guys questioned the 50% playing rule that your crazy BOE has instituted. Maybe she needed to get the 8th graders in a few more minutes to get that full 50% for the season. Nice of you to point it out here on BOTC, this way the coach could make the correction.....lol.... just kidding.

But that kid is pretty good. (didn't see the game so I don't know how she did in the game).... But I do agree that, that was a big time pressure moment for an 8th grader in net. Depending on if she started or went in later in the game would determine the quality of the coached decision... also was there an injury to the other goalie? I hope it doesn't hurt her mentally down the line.

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You guys questioned the 50% playing rule that your crazy BOE has instituted. Maybe she needed to get the 8th graders in a few more minutes to get that full 50% for the season. Nice of you to point it out here on BOTC, this way the coach could make the correction.....lol.... just kidding.

But that kid is pretty good. (didn't see the game so I don't know how she did in the game).... But I do agree that, that was a big time pressure moment for an 8th grader in net. Depending on if she started or went in later in the game would determine the quality of the coached decision... also was there an injury to the other goalie? I hope it doesn't hurt her mentally down the line. [/quote]

Nothing wrong with the other goalie except lack of help from her defense. Coach should have never pulled her. It was 11-6 with 5 minutes left. 8th grader faced one shot and it went in. Senior going to USC picked the wrong day to play her worst game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You guys questioned the 50% playing rule that your crazy BOE has instituted. Maybe she needed to get the 8th graders in a few more minutes to get that full 50% for the season. Nice of you to point it out here on BOTC, this way the coach could make the correction.....lol.... just kidding.

But that kid is pretty good. (didn't see the game so I don't know how she did in the game).... But I do agree that, that was a big time pressure moment for an 8th grader in net. Depending on if she started or went in later in the game would determine the quality of the coached decision... also was there an injury to the other goalie? I hope it doesn't hurt her mentally down the line.

Nothing wrong with the other goalie except lack of help from her defense. Coach should have never pulled her. It was 11-6 with 5 minutes left. 8th grader faced one shot and it went in. Senior going to USC picked the wrong day to play her worst game. [/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You guys questioned the 50% playing rule that your crazy BOE has instituted. Maybe she needed to get the 8th graders in a few more minutes to get that full 50% for the season. Nice of you to point it out here on BOTC, this way the coach could make the correction.....lol.... just kidding.

But that kid is pretty good. (didn't see the game so I don't know how she did in the game).... But I do agree that, that was a big time pressure moment for an 8th grader in net. Depending on if she started or went in later in the game would determine the quality of the coached decision... also was there an injury to the other goalie? I hope it doesn't hurt her mentally down the line.

Nothing wrong with the other goalie except lack of help from her defense. Coach should have never pulled her. It was 11-6 with 5 minutes left. 8th grader faced one shot and it went in. Senior going to USC picked the wrong day to play her worst game. [/quote]

At that point it may have not been an issue with the starting goalie as much as it may have been a "let's get the future goalie some time in a big game so she knows what it feels like". Since they were down in what was probably a insurmountable number of goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You guys questioned the 50% playing rule that your crazy BOE has instituted. Maybe she needed to get the 8th graders in a few more minutes to get that full 50% for the season. Nice of you to point it out here on BOTC, this way the coach could make the correction.....lol.... just kidding.

But that kid is pretty good. (didn't see the game so I don't know how she did in the game).... But I do agree that, that was a big time pressure moment for an 8th grader in net. Depending on if she started or went in later in the game would determine the quality of the coached decision... also was there an injury to the other goalie? I hope it doesn't hurt her mentally down the line.

Nothing wrong with the other goalie except lack of help from her defense. Coach should have never pulled her. It was 11-6 with 5 minutes left. 8th grader faced one shot and it went in. Senior going to USC picked the wrong day to play her worst game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You guys questioned the 50% playing rule that your crazy BOE has instituted. Maybe she needed to get the 8th graders in a few more minutes to get that full 50% for the season. Nice of you to point it out here on BOTC, this way the coach could make the correction.....lol.... just kidding.

But that kid is pretty good. (didn't see the game so I don't know how she did in the game).... But I do agree that, that was a big time pressure moment for an 8th grader in net. Depending on if she started or went in later in the game would determine the quality of the coached decision... also was there an injury to the other goalie? I hope it doesn't hurt her mentally down the line.

Nothing wrong with the other goalie except lack of help from her defense. Coach should have never pulled her. It was 11-6 with 5 minutes left. 8th grader faced one shot and it went in. Senior going to USC picked the wrong day to play her worst game. [/quote]

At that point it may have not been an issue with the starting goalie as much as it may have been a "let's get the future goalie some time in a big game so she knows what it feels like". Since they were down in what was probably a insurmountable number of goals.
[/quote]

The coach had plenty of talent, no plan. Should be fired.

Nothing wrong with the other goalie except lack of help from her defense. Coach should have never pulled her. It was 11-6 with 5 minutes left. 8th grader faced one shot and it went in. Senior going to USC picked the wrong day to play her worst game. [/quote]

Ouch, threw the defense under the bus, then threw the coach under the bus, then threw the coach under the bus, then threw the senior under the bus! Too bad your daughter has to play with all these people dragging her down, she could otherwise be the champion.

Congrats to Mattituck on winning the LIC!

Who? What division? Congrats

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

They dominated all competition outscoring opponents 30-7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Thanks for your completely uninformed , completely wrong answer to someone's question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You guys questioned the 50% playing rule that your crazy BOE has instituted. Maybe she needed to get the 8th graders in a few more minutes to get that full 50% for the season. Nice of you to point it out here on BOTC, this way the coach could make the correction.....lol.... just kidding.

Really. When are you people gonna realize? Just because your a good player doesn't make you a good coach. Standing there with your arms crossed, not coaching while you team takes a beating. No ability to make an adjustment. Same look on her in the summer when her YJ team gets beat down. Only thing missing yesterday was her no lax credential assistant SG. Or maybe he was there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the LIC predictions begin.....

Three relatively close games with the winners being MC, GC, and MS and one blowout

The only close game will be GC-ESM. The Nassau D champ is 4-8 on the season

haha WRONG. When you have someone who can't coach at the helm, you lose again and again and all summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Wrong.

Congrats to all the LI Champs from yesterday as well as to the runner ups for winning their respective county championships. I watched all four games and the rain basically held off. GC and Mount Sinai are the two best teams by far and should be favorites to win the states.

GC was down 5-2 at one point and and outscored ESM 10 to 1 from that point. A well coached team and held ESM scoreless in the second half. They really do not have a super star like years past but they have tremendous depth and most if not all girls on the team have skill

Mount Sinai is strong and very well coached. It was close for the first 20 minutes but Mount Sinai took advantage of every mistake Wantagh made. Wantagh had no answer for the backer D and made no adjustments. I do not know how good Vestal from section 4 is but yesterdays LI game may have been the real state championship.

MC hung on to beat Massapequa in an entertaining game. Massapequa never gave up but Ortega was involved in 7 out of 10 goals. I can see them getting by North Rockland but if they make it to the final it could be Pittsford or last years champs CBA. I actually think the A's are weaker than the B's & C's on LI. MC could be in trouble next year with Ortega moving on after a tremendous career

Mattituck beating Carle Place was not a revelation. CP had a losing record and was very weak. Unfortunately for Mattituck they face a strong Bronxville team and if they win may get another strong team in Skaneateles.

I can see two state titles for LI girls this year. This is just my opinion and not looking for any arguments just thought I would share my thoughts on yesterday

The coaches choose. They will tell you it is voted on so parents don't blame them. It always comes down to politics in this sport.

When will you lax lemmings realize that the YJs are overrated and their coaches and players are a lot of smoke and mirrors with people like the Raff tooting their horns without any objectivity.
In the end, the cream will always rise to the top despite the fake PR.

Good luck MC, MS and GC ... bring it home for LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Wrong.

Then can you explain how girls are selected? Not sure why there is no transparency....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"
[/quote]

You can only blow a game when you are expected to win. ESM got blown out by a much better team, as expected. Nothing for the coach to possibly do in that situation. Don't let the success of playing in an empty Suffolk B division cloud your judgement or expectations for this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You can only blow a game when you are expected to win. ESM got blown out by a much better team, as expected. Nothing for the coach to possibly do in that situation. Don't let the success of playing in an empty Suffolk B division cloud your judgement or expectations for this team.[/quote]
ESM is a great team with great players. If asked, those girls would rather play competitive teams all season long. It's unfair to them not to be challenged all season and then be put in a situation to play against a team who has been challenged all season. ESM was winning by 3 against such a great team. If you are that great you don't let a sub par team do that to you. So get over yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Correct

Mattituck coach gets it done ! a good leader and a great coach ! its to bad he didn't stick around close to his home , that town would be going to the states about now !

Mattituck beating Carle Place was not a revelation. CP had a losing record and was very weak. Unfortunately for Mattituck they face a strong Bronxville team and if they win may get another strong team in Skaneateles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Correct

Not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Correct

Not

okay so enlighten the masses. How does it work?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Correct

Not

That's so incorrect its comical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You can only blow a game when you are expected to win. ESM got blown out by a much better team, as expected. Nothing for the coach to possibly do in that situation. Don't let the success of playing in an empty Suffolk B division cloud your judgement or expectations for this team.

ESM is a great team with great players. If asked, those girls would rather play competitive teams all season long. It's unfair to them not to be challenged all season and then be put in a situation to play against a team who has been challenged all season. ESM was winning by 3 against such a great team. If you are that great you don't let a sub par team do that to you. So get over yourselves. [/quote]

"Great teams with great players" don't let up 10 in a row, perhaps you should get over yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"

You can only blow a game when you are expected to win. ESM got blown out by a much better team, as expected. Nothing for the coach to possibly do in that situation. Don't let the success of playing in an empty Suffolk B division cloud your judgement or expectations for this team.

ESM is a great team with great players. If asked, those girls would rather play competitive teams all season long. It's unfair to them not to be challenged all season and then be put in a situation to play against a team who has been challenged all season. ESM was winning by 3 against such a great team. If you are that great you don't let a sub par team do that to you. So get over yourselves.

"Great teams with great players" don't let up 10 in a row, perhaps you should get over yourselves.
[/quote]

You read it correctly. Great team with Great players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Correct

Not

okay so enlighten the masses. How does it work?

Suffolk is easy, where your team places determines how many of what award your team gets and your coach essentially picks who gets what award. All-American is a process in which any head coach nominates and puts the paper work for who from their team they feel deserves the recognition. The coaches have a meeting and narrow it down from there ,in the past there was a selection committee but I believe that is no longer the case and eventually comes down to a vote among the coaches.All-tournament team is again based on how far your team goes and your coach picks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC downs ESM 12-6. ESM shut out in 2nd half. ESM defense was picked apart in the 2nd half.

Wow, how does dopey Thorn blow that game? Absolutel terrible coaching! And what was she even thinking putting an 8th grader in goal?? Terrible

"
[/quote]

Just watched the game on msg varsity. Maybe if ESM shot at goal instead of GC defenders heads they would have had a better shot of winning. I don't think I've seen 3 dangerous shots in a whole a season let alone one game. Bottom line it seemed to me GC is a good team and ESM have good individuals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does each team coach choose who gets all division and all county for their team? Or do all the coaches vote on this collectively?

Opposing coaches select All County, but your own coach chooses as many All conferences as he/she wants. Your own coach is the only one that can nominate All American, what sucks is there's no way to check if he/she submitted anyone

Correct

Not

okay so enlighten the masses. How does it work?

Suffolk is easy, where your team places determines how many of what award your team gets and your coach essentially picks who gets what award. All-American is a process in which any head coach nominates and puts the paper work for who from their team they feel deserves the recognition. The coaches have a meeting and narrow it down from there ,in the past there was a selection committee but I believe that is no longer the case and eventually comes down to a vote among the coaches.All-tournament team is again based on how far your team goes and your coach picks.

Pretty accurate .

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

Are all Americans announced at the county awards dinner? I don't think that's how it was done in the past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

They will not be passed over because honestly this year there are not enough kids who have played at that level. In past years it seemed like several deserving players did not get the award because there were too many deserving players so some players had to be excluded , this year it seems the opposite in that several players will get the recognition that maybe did not have that type season .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

No sport is more political than girls lacrosse.

These awards were determined before the season started.

Everybody knows it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

No sport is more political than girls lacrosse.

These awards were determined before the season started.

Everybody knows it.

Lets try to keep in mind that , at least on L.I., Girls lacrosse is mostly politics. It has gotten so bad that now Carol Rose and Tracy Weiner even have a flunky on local T.V. to push there agenda. I mean come on, Who is this self proclaimed Lax Guru Rapport anyway? He never played lacrosse at any level, doesn't have a sister that played, his wife never played, he doesn't have kids old enough to play, the closest he got to a lacrosse team is when his H.S. team shoved him in a locker, but there he is spouting off CR's and TW's view points on TV? Crap at least I played lacrosse and so does my daughter, so I'm way more qualified than that"guru" [lacrosse]

Section XI upstate and next year preview

A division, Middle Country has a chance and will in every game have the best layer on the field. Problem is will the others on offense step up when the other teams plan is to do all it can to stop Ortega.Is there defense enough. If they don't get it done this year they will never get it done.

C division, its Mt.Sinai's to lose. I think they roll thru the competition .In the end they are very good defensively and next year they are a little more vulnerable on that end but will still be the team to beat.

D division, Mattituck has a chance but its a small chance as the upstate D is more difficult than any other division. Mattituck is a young team and graduates no starters so they should be ready to compete with anyone next year .

How was the Nassau county awards dinner?

Overrated AA choices for sure

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

No sport is more political than girls lacrosse.

These awards were determined before the season started.

Everybody knows it.

Lets try to keep in mind that , at least on L.I., Girls lacrosse is mostly politics. It has gotten so bad that now Carol Rose and Tracy Weiner even have a flunky on local T.V. to push there agenda. I mean come on, Who is this self proclaimed Lax Guru Rapport anyway? He never played lacrosse at any level, doesn't have a sister that played, his wife never played, he doesn't have kids old enough to play, the closest he got to a lacrosse team is when his H.S. team shoved him in a locker, but there he is spouting off CR's and TW's view points on TV? Crap at least I played lacrosse and so does my daughter, so I'm way more qualified than that"guru" [lacrosse]

Guess he hasn't mentioned your daughter yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overrated AA choices for sure

Is there a rule that every booster club parents kid must get an award?

Is there a list of award winners?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overrated AA choices for sure

Got to love same responses every year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

No sport is more political than girls lacrosse.

These awards were determined before the season started.

Everybody knows it.

Lets try to keep in mind that , at least on L.I., Girls lacrosse is mostly politics. It has gotten so bad that now Carol Rose and Tracy Weiner even have a flunky on local T.V. to push there agenda. I mean come on, Who is this self proclaimed Lax Guru Rapport anyway? He never played lacrosse at any level, doesn't have a sister that played, his wife never played, he doesn't have kids old enough to play, the closest he got to a lacrosse team is when his H.S. team shoved him in a locker, but there he is spouting off CR's and TW's view points on TV? Crap at least I played lacrosse and so does my daughter, so I'm way more qualified than that"guru" [lacrosse]

Your post tells me you should have zero to do with high school sports in general. As far as Rapport goes at least he is paying attention to lacrosse on long Island.If you think that someone needed to play a sport in order to be qualified to discuss the sport that's just ridiculous and is always comical because some clown who played lacrosse in high school now thinks they are experts in the game because of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overrated AA choices for sure

Got to love same responses every year

I'm sure there were a few girls that were overlooked, but the girls who received AA awards and AA honorable mention are all deserving players. And no, my daughter didn't receive an award. She's a really good player, but not at the level of the girls selected.

Is there a list of the girls who won AA and academic AA? Curious who won

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overrated AA choices for sure

Is there a rule that every booster club parents kid must get an award?

Volunteer to help your town/HS Booster club. Do it early in your daughter's sports career. Don't criticize, get involved...

I have found that the booster clubs are run by the parents that push to organize the events for the younger kids and stay involved in their child's activities as they get older. The involved parents are used to handling money, organizing events, organizing fundraisers etc... Lacrosse, especially, at the younger ages, is always forced to take a back seat to everything (soccer, swimming, softball...). So the job is hard enough without having to deal with the ungrateful complainers.

If you are too busy to help, thank the booster club for their time and effort. Complaining parents just make their job that much more difficult. Applaud ALL the children who receive awards! They are just children.

Have a great summer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overrated AA choices for sure

Is there a rule that every booster club parents kid must get an award?

Volunteer to help your town/HS Booster club. Do it early in your daughter's sports career. Don't criticize, get involved...

I have found that the booster clubs are run by the parents that push to organize the events for the younger kids and stay involved in their child's activities as they get older. The involved parents are used to handling money, organizing events, organizing fundraisers etc... Lacrosse, especially, at the younger ages, is always forced to take a back seat to everything (soccer, swimming, softball...). So the job is hard enough without having to deal with the ungrateful complainers.

If you are too busy to help, thank the booster club for their time and effort. Complaining parents just make their job that much more difficult. Applaud ALL the children who receive awards! They are just children.

Have a great summer!

Amen!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a down year with only a handful of exceptional players in Nassau (assume Suffolk is the same) that are obvious All-American choices? Lots of good kids but not many exceptional kids. Even some of the high profile players had somewhat sub par years. Lets hope politics do not play too big of a role and that they acknowledge the kids that are most deserving.

When the chosen players have down years, then politics takes over. Most all americans are kind of decided early because of their history so its expected. But when they have a down year they should be passed over. Lets see

No sport is more political than girls lacrosse.

These awards were determined before the season started.

Everybody knows it.

Lets try to keep in mind that , at least on L.I., Girls lacrosse is mostly politics. It has gotten so bad that now Carol Rose and Tracy Weiner even have a flunky on local T.V. to push there agenda. I mean come on, Who is this self proclaimed Lax Guru Rapport anyway? He never played lacrosse at any level, doesn't have a sister that played, his wife never played, he doesn't have kids old enough to play, the closest he got to a lacrosse team is when his H.S. team shoved him in a locker, but there he is spouting off CR's and TW's view points on TV? Crap at least I played lacrosse and so does my daughter, so I'm way more qualified than that"guru" [lacrosse]

Your post tells me you should have zero to do with high school sports in general. As far as Rapport goes at least he is paying attention to lacrosse on long Island.If you think that someone needed to play a sport in order to be qualified to discuss the sport that's just ridiculous and is always comical because some clown who played lacrosse in high school now thinks they are experts in the game because of it.

So, you obviously never played on any level either, that is obvious. Alotbof people pay attention to girls lacrosse on L.I. , only people like you call them pervs, creeps and paedophiles, but some how this creepy guy gets a pass by you because he's on TV? Or is it because you're amongst the YJ faithful, or both. Yes I played in H.S. and college and post collegiate, and I am a far better judge then you or him, is that so hard to believe that someone that actually played would be a better judge than eithyou or him? The only problem with me is that my daughter is allready in college so if I follown H.S. girls people like you call me a pedophile

"So, you obviously never played on any level either, that is obvious. Alotbof people pay attention to girls lacrosse on L.I. , only people like you call them pervs, creeps and paedophiles, but some how this creepy guy gets a pass by you because he's on TV? Or is it because you're amongst the YJ faithful, or both. Yes I played in H.S. and college and post collegiate, and I am a far better judge then you or him, is that so hard to believe that someone that actually played would be a better judge than eithyou or him? The only problem with me is that my daughter is allready in college so if I follown H.S. girls people like you call me a pedophile"

This is one scary post. You have obviously at some point in your life been accused of being a pedophile. Now you are on a high school girls lacrosse site .Get help.
Lets hear from your expert opinion what exactly Rappp has said that is so outrageous. What a loser.

[quote=Anonymous]Overrated AA choices for sure [/quote

Happens every year. Some that deserve it don't get it and some that don't deserve it get it. It's just the way it is.

I agree---- mount Sinai should again be state champs. toughest D I have seen in a long time with a very patient offense.

GC looks tough as nails. I think they also win it.

MC has a world class player and is good enough to carry her team to the crown.

Unbelievable how young Mattituck is. 7 soph 1fresh 4 jr starters. This year may be a year or two early for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"So, you obviously never played on any level either, that is obvious. Alotbof people pay attention to girls lacrosse on L.I. , only people like you call them pervs, creeps and paedophiles, but some how this creepy guy gets a pass by you because he's on TV? Or is it because you're amongst the YJ faithful, or both. Yes I played in H.S. and college and post collegiate, and I am a far better judge then you or him, is that so hard to believe that someone that actually played would be a better judge than eithyou or him? The only problem with me is that my daughter is allready in college so if I follown H.S. girls people like you call me a pedophile"

This is one scary post. You have obviously at some point in your life been accused of being a pedophile. Now you are on a high school girls lacrosse site .Get help.
Lets hear from your expert opinion what exactly Rappp has said that is so outrageous. What a loser.

Yah on this site all the time by you crazy lax moms

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a list of the girls who won AA and academic AA? Curious who won

Ask the LB gnome he has been crying, texting and politicking for ever and to who ever will listen. I give him credit though it worked Long Beach Laxers AA(s) and honorable mention, what a joke !!! How is Long Beach going to do in states this weekend? LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a list of the girls who won AA and academic AA? Curious who won

Ask the LB gnome he has been crying, texting and politicking for ever and to who ever will listen. I give him credit though it worked Long Beach Laxers AA(s) and honorable mention, what a joke !!! How is Long Beach going to do in states this weekend? LOL

Pretty tough coming from behind the key board...why don't you say it to his face...we played LB, good team...they lost to GC like everyone else...What town you from tough guy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a list of the girls who won AA and academic AA? Curious who won

Ask the LB gnome he has been crying, texting and politicking for ever and to who ever will listen. I give him credit though it worked Long Beach Laxers AA(s) and honorable mention, what a joke !!! How is Long Beach going to do in states this weekend? LOL

A player doesn't have to be going to states to be an AA. Seriously?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unbelievable how young Mattituck is. 7 soph 1fresh 4 jr starters. This year may be a year or two early for them.

I don't think we'd be talking about Mattituck if they didn't have a Class D. They are young and pretty good, and They should be able to dominate that Division for some time, but their season would be over already if not for the drop to Class d

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unbelievable how young Mattituck is. 7 soph 1fresh 4 jr starters. This year may be a year or two early for them.

I don't think we'd be talking about Mattituck if they didn't have a Class D. They are young and pretty good, and They should be able to dominate that Division for some time, but their season would be over already if not for the drop to Class d

Mattituck will be the old Cold Spring Harbor that walked to county championships year after year because of their division. CSH plays in the Power Conference all season and then went back and torched same size schools in the playoffs. They were moved up this year and now have to battle Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unbelievable how young Mattituck is. 7 soph 1fresh 4 jr starters. This year may be a year or two early for them.

I don't think we'd be talking about Mattituck if they didn't have a Class D. They are young and pretty good, and They should be able to dominate that Division for some time, but their season would be over already if not for the drop to Class d

Thanks Einstein, and if they had no A,B,C,D Classes we would not be talking about 3 out of 4 Long Island teams that are left . Any more master of the obvious observations .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unbelievable how young Mattituck is. 7 soph 1fresh 4 jr starters. This year may be a year or two early for them.

I don't think we'd be talking about Mattituck if they didn't have a Class D. They are young and pretty good, and They should be able to dominate that Division for some time, but their season would be over already if not for the drop to Class d

Thanks Einstein, and if they had no A,B,C,D Classes we would not be talking about 3 out of 4 Long Island teams that are left . Any more master of the obvious observations .

True, but conf D had a total of 5 teams on the whole island...You have to admit its a total joke conf.

Wow, heated response. Lumpy mattress, biting the pillow keepin yah up late? I think the poster was just trying to keep their season in perspective.

Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unbelievable how young Mattituck is. 7 soph 1fresh 4 jr starters. This year may be a year or two early for them.

I don't think we'd be talking about Mattituck if they didn't have a Class D. They are young and pretty good, and They should be able to dominate that Division for some time, but their season would be over already if not for the drop to Class d

Thanks Einstein, and if they had no A,B,C,D Classes we would not be talking about 3 out of 4 Long Island teams that are left . Any more master of the obvious observations .

True, but conf D had a total of 5 teams on the whole island...You have to admit its a total joke conf.

That is true but when you look at the other Sections up state a good number of the schools are in Class D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Whatever the case, they basically play in a PAL league of 5 small teams- they're a middle of the pack or low ranked team at best in any other division

Mattituck has 7 college commits on their team. Harvard, Davidson, UVA x2, William and Mary, Wagner, And Adelphi.(according to lax power). Not too bad for a school with a class size of about 100 with only one senior on the team. Give them a little credit. Nice job to you Mattituck. Mr sour grapes obviously did not make the playoffs. I'm from Mt Sinai and we play Mattituck every year and have never lost to them, but they do deserve some credit for what they have done in such a short time as a varsity. I think only six years. They give us some of our closest games every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, heated response. Lumpy mattress, biting the pillow keepin yah up late? I think the poster was just trying to keep their season in perspective.

Why is he just trying to keep their season in perspective ? Because he is douchie . Who cares,the Mattituck kids get to extend their season and experience playing in the state tournament , good for them . Then of course you have the ignorant "fact" guy who has to just make stuff up ,I don't know how many teams are in conference D on Long Island but it's not 5. Why come on here and just make a number up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Whatever the case, they basically play in a PAL league of 5 small teams- they're a middle of the pack or low ranked team at best in any other division

Honestly you just sound like a complete jeolous loser. The Mattituck coaches and parents could not be nicer ,what team does your kid play on?
Tell us which division they would be so low ranked in . Just looking at past results , have made playoffs in the C the past 3-4 years , have beaten the best teams in the B (RP ESM) when they played last, and the only A division team they play each year they have beaten relatively easily ( an A division team who made the playoffs this year winning their first game ) .They have played in the toughest division in Suffolk the past several years and an argument could be made that if they were in another division they may have had a chance at winning it .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mattituck has 7 college commits on their team. Harvard, Davidson, UVA x2, William and Mary, Wagner, And Adelphi.(according to lax power). Not too bad for a school with a class size of about 100 with only one senior on the team. Give them a little credit. Nice job to you Mattituck. Mr sour grapes obviously did not make the playoffs. I'm from Mt Sinai and we play Mattituck every year and have never lost to them, but they do deserve some credit for what they have done in such a short time as a varsity. I think only six years. They give us some of our closest games every year.

Agree. They deserve a little credit. They are a decent team. They are not as good as their journey is taking them. No emotion. Just fact. If they weren't in the PAL division you would not hear a word about them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Whatever the case, they basically play in a PAL league of 5 small teams- they're a middle of the pack or low ranked team at best in any other division

Honestly you just sound like a complete jeolous loser. The Mattituck coaches and parents could not be nicer ,what team does your kid play on?
Tell us which division they would be so low ranked in . Just looking at past results , have made playoffs in the C the past 3-4 years , have beaten the best teams in the B (RP ESM) when they played last, and the only A division team they play each year they have beaten relatively easily ( an A division team who made the playoffs this year winning their first game ) .They have played in the toughest division in Suffolk the past several years and an argument could be made that if they were in another division they may have had a chance at winning it .

Niceness has nothing to do with how they would rank. I'm sure are a nice team. A nice team that would do ok in other divisions. Sorry it bothers you that people thinks their league is a joke. They didn't even have playoff games but went straight to the countys and beat a weak team. Just stating facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level
even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Whatever the case, they basically play in a PAL league of 5 small teams- they're a middle of the pack or low ranked team at best in any other division

Honestly you just sound like a complete jeolous loser. The Mattituck coaches and parents could not be nicer ,what team does your kid play on?
Tell us which division they would be so low ranked in . Just looking at past results , have made playoffs in the C the past 3-4 years , have beaten the best teams in the B (RP ESM) when they played last, and the only A division team they play each year they have beaten relatively easily ( an A division team who made the playoffs this year winning their first game ) .They have played in the toughest division in Suffolk the past several years and an argument could be made that if they were in another division they may have had a chance at winning it .

Niceness has nothing to do with how they would rank. I'm sure are a nice team. A nice team that would do ok in other divisions. Sorry it bothers you that people thinks their league is a joke. They didn't even have playoff games but went straight to the countys and beat a weak team. Just stating facts

The only fact that bothers me is you are a [lacrosse]. Why would an adult come onto this site with the sole purpose to put down young girls accomplishments , because you are a [lacrosse] , there is no other explanation. My kid lost in the LIC this year and has been to the states previously and it's an awesome experience that your kid will never have , get over it . We have played Mattituck and have beaten and lost to them in the past but it is always a difficult game . I can guarantee you that if they were in our division they would have been one of the top teams possibly winning it .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level
even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Whatever the case, they basically play in a PAL league of 5 small teams- they're a middle of the pack or low ranked team at best in any other division

Honestly you just sound like a complete jeolous loser. The Mattituck coaches and parents could not be nicer ,what team does your kid play on?
Tell us which division they would be so low ranked in . Just looking at past results , have made playoffs in the C the past 3-4 years , have beaten the best teams in the B (RP ESM) when they played last, and the only A division team they play each year they have beaten relatively easily ( an A division team who made the playoffs this year winning their first game ) .They have played in the toughest division in Suffolk the past several years and an argument could be made that if they were in another division they may have had a chance at winning it .

Niceness has nothing to do with how they would rank. I'm sure are a nice team. A nice team that would do ok in other divisions. Sorry it bothers you that people thinks their league is a joke. They didn't even have playoff games but went straight to the countys and beat a weak team. Just stating facts

The only fact that bothers me is you are a [lacrosse]. Why would an adult come onto this site with the sole purpose to put down young girls accomplishments , because you are a [lacrosse] , there is no other explanation. My kid lost in the LIC this year and has been to the states previously and it's an awesome experience that your kid will never have , get over it . We have played Mattituck and have beaten and lost to them in the past but it is always a difficult game . I can guarantee you that if they were in our division they would have been one of the top teams possibly winning it .

You're obviously emotionally attached. Just stating facts. Its a weak league. They win in a weak league. No attack on kids. Just stating these nice kids play in a weak division. Every state probably has a league like this. Ours happens to be D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a list of the girls who won AA and academic AA? Curious who won

Ask the LB gnome he has been crying, texting and politicking for ever and to who ever will listen. I give him credit though it worked Long Beach Laxers AA(s) and honorable mention, what a joke !!! How is Long Beach going to do in states this weekend? LOL

Pretty tough coming from behind the key board...why don't you say it to his face...we played LB, good team...they lost to GC like everyone else...What town you from tough guy?

Actually I think the previous poster has it correct the aforementioned "LB Gnome dad" does not no when to shut the f*#k up; he was described pretty accurately as cry baby, know it all, kiss [lacrosse], the guy is a pest..... As for Long Beach team they are one of the better Nassau teams.

GC crushes Yorktown in B semi this AM...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mattituck has 7 college commits on their team. Harvard, Davidson, UVA x2, William and Mary, Wagner, And Adelphi.(according to lax power). Not too bad for a school with a class size of about 100 with only one senior on the team. Give them a little credit. Nice job to you Mattituck. Mr sour grapes obviously did not make the playoffs. I'm from Mt Sinai and we play Mattituck every year and have never lost to them, but they do deserve some credit for what they have done in such a short time as a varsity. I think only six years. They give us some of our closest games every year.

Agree. They deserve a little credit. They are a decent team. They are not as good as their journey is taking them. No emotion. Just fact. If they weren't in the PAL division you would not hear a word about them.

I think may years ago the parents of these players knew Mattituck was going to be moved to class D. So they moved to Mattituck groomed their daughters to play Lacrosse now they are County Champs on the way to States. Most logical explanation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level
even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Whatever the case, they basically play in a PAL league of 5 small teams- they're a middle of the pack or low ranked team at best in any other division

Honestly you just sound like a complete jeolous loser. The Mattituck coaches and parents could not be nicer ,what team does your kid play on?
Tell us which division they would be so low ranked in . Just looking at past results , have made playoffs in the C the past 3-4 years , have beaten the best teams in the B (RP ESM) when they played last, and the only A division team they play each year they have beaten relatively easily ( an A division team who made the playoffs this year winning their first game ) .They have played in the toughest division in Suffolk the past several years and an argument could be made that if they were in another division they may have had a chance at winning it .

Niceness has nothing to do with how they would rank. I'm sure are a nice team. A nice team that would do ok in other divisions. Sorry it bothers you that people thinks their league is a joke. They didn't even have playoff games but went straight to the countys and beat a weak team. Just stating facts

The only fact that bothers me is you are a [lacrosse]. Why would an adult come onto this site with the sole purpose to put down young girls accomplishments , because you are a [lacrosse] , there is no other explanation. My kid lost in the LIC this year and has been to the states previously and it's an awesome experience that your kid will never have , get over it . We have played Mattituck and have beaten and lost to them in the past but it is always a difficult game . I can guarantee you that if they were in our division they would have been one of the top teams possibly winning it .

You're obviously emotionally attached. Just stating facts. Its a weak league. They win in a weak league. No attack on kids. Just stating these nice kids play in a weak division. Every state probably has a league like this. Ours happens to be D.

Weak with 5 teams in it. Joke

Suffolk power ranking
#1- C division
#2- A division
#3 - B division
# 4 - D division

There is a huge gap from 3-4. Mattituck being the one bright spot. C division has some of the best teams, but also some of the worst. A and B could be swapped.
Suffolk NEEDS to power conference!

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk power ranking
#1- C division
#2- A division
#3 - B division
# 4 - D division

There is a huge gap from 3-4. Mattituck being the one bright spot. C division has some of the best teams, but also some of the worst. A and B could be swapped.
Suffolk NEEDS to power conference!

Couldn't agree more on the last part - top 4-6 from A, 2 from B, 3 from C and 1 from D would make a great competitive season for all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Lax needs to go the way of wrestling
Section 11 champ and section 8 champ both go upstate
Only sending li champ is a diservice to county champs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Mattituck was almost doubled up! To the other persons point - are they that good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not[quote=Anonymous]Have heard that they would be in the C Division if they allowed Greenport to play like the boys program does ... but then they would not win.

Could be wrong but their AD told me they have Zero players from greenport in the program and only a couple from Southold . They do not have a JV due to numbers .He also told me that they are D level

even if Greenport had a few kids who played .

Whatever the case, they basically play in a PAL league of 5 small teams- they're a middle of the pack or low ranked team at best in any other division

Honestly you just sound like a complete jeolous loser. The Mattituck coaches and parents could not be nicer ,what team does your kid play on?
Tell us which division they would be so low ranked in . Just looking at past results , have made playoffs in the C the past 3-4 years , have beaten the best teams in the B (RP ESM) when they played last, and the only A division team they play each year they have beaten relatively easily ( an A division team who made the playoffs this year winning their first game ) .They have played in the toughest division in Suffolk the past several years and an argument could be made that if they were in another division they may have had a chance at winning it .

Niceness has nothing to do with how they would rank. I'm sure are a nice team. A nice team that would do ok in other divisions. Sorry it bothers you that people thinks their league is a joke. They didn't even have playoff games but went straight to the countys and beat a weak team. Just stating facts

The only fact that bothers me is you are a [lacrosse]. Why would an adult come onto this site with the sole purpose to put down young girls accomplishments , because you are a [lacrosse] , there is no other explanation. My kid lost in the LIC this year and has been to the states previously and it's an awesome experience that your kid will never have , get over it . We have played Mattituck and have beaten and lost to them in the past but it is always a difficult game . I can guarantee you that if they were in our division they would have been one of the top teams possibly winning it .

You're obviously emotionally attached. Just stating facts. Its a weak league. They win in a weak league. No attack on kids. Just stating these nice kids play in a weak division. Every state probably has a league like this. Ours happens to be D.

Signed , jeoulous [lacrosse](jd)

I agree
Top 12 no order
1. Ward Melville
2. Middle Country
3. Northport
4. West Islip
5. Smithtown East
6. ESM
7. Rocky Point
8. Mt Sinai
9. BPBP
10. SWR
11. Sachem North
12. Mattituck/Southold

Would make a nice group. Leave some room for out of Section games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

To the "lax fan" who thinks Mattituck is a middle of the pack team. You should try to get them on you teams schedule next year. With them not graduating any starters I'm sure your daughters team should be able to beat up the middle of the pack Mattituck team next year. I'm from Riverhead and trust me-they were no middle of the pack team.

Put up or shut up... All LIC teams play in a round robin tournament
Now that would be fun ... only thing on the line would be bragging rights.

Mattituck is a solid team - well coached - nothing more. Look at who they beat this year. Lost to Sayville who is another young team.

Bragging rights for parents living through their kids. Kids don't care , only the parents do.

Congratulations to Mount Sinai and Garden City on winning State Championships! Two great teams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

Off course everyone is AFTER Mt. Sinai it is after all where god gave his laws to the Laxites!!

You are from Mattituck not Riverhead. Go away

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

After Mt nah? G.C. has won 13 of the last 22 championships, Mt Sinai has won 3? How is G.C. the most consistent AFTER MT. Sinai? Mt Sinai isn't even more consistent than SWR with 5.

How will MC be next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are from Mattituck not Riverhead. Go away

Let me guess your are the father of an overweight kid who was not good enough to get her team to the LIC and you have taught her to make excuses instead of telling her to work harder. Not sure about your jealousy, are the Mattituck parents , kids , coaches overly cocky ? Not sure why you would be so upset that they play in a division based on the size of their school just like we all do . Do they say it's a difficult division or is it just your need to make yourself feel better about your "shortcomings " so you want to knock them down. Give it a rest , head down to Corey beach and cool off.

Which teams have the best chance at winning Suffolk A in 2018?

Northport - Rocky road in 17 but made it to the County Finals and should be strong in 2018.

West Islip - Some young talent on 2017 team will be in the mix in 2018.

Middle Country - Had another good year and won the County and Long Island Championships. Not sure what 2018 will be like.

Smithtown East - They lose some talent but they still have enough returning to compete in 2018.

Will there be any surprises in 2018?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

After Mt nah? G.C. has won 13 of the last 22 championships, Mt Sinai has won 3? How is G.C. the most consistent AFTER MT. Sinai? Mt Sinai isn't even more consistent than SWR with 5.

Mt. Sinai has won 4 of the last 5 and in the final 5 of last 7. That is the most dominance in recent years. Over all GC has way more history winning in girls lax. SWR won w one group of girls at a time where the competition was more like suffolk D is now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

After Mt nah? G.C. has won 13 of the last 22 championships, Mt Sinai has won 3? How is G.C. the most consistent AFTER MT. Sinai? Mt Sinai isn't even more consistent than SWR with 5.

GREAT POINT! This is GC's 15th State title... in arguably the toughest class in the state.

Our family has been locked up against GC lacrosse for almost 15 years. They never seem to have a down year and when they do, they are still better than 95% of the rest of us. Look at the model. Never a top 25 Nassau scorer. They run a ton of kids out there and not just 12 like the rest of us who play an isolation offense running 1 girl in to a brick wall of defenders.

Their community embraces the sport but their youth program teaches the game the right way and doesn't let any PAL coaches kid score 80% of the points. They grow youth interest the right way. congratulations on another championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams have the best chance at winning Suffolk A in 2018?

Northport - Rocky road in 17 but made it to the County Finals and should be strong in 2018.

West Islip - Some young talent on 2017 team will be in the mix in 2018.

Middle Country - Had another good year and won the County and Long Island Championships. Not sure what 2018 will be like.

Smithtown East - They lose some talent but they still have enough returning to compete in 2018.

Will there be any surprises in 2018?

Do Not forget about Riverhead, very young team with a ton of talent, will win it all next year and the years to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our family has been locked up against GC lacrosse for almost 15 years. They never seem to have a down year and when they do, they are still better than 95% of the rest of us. Look at the model. Never a top 25 Nassau scorer. They run a ton of kids out there and not just 12 like the rest of us who play an isolation offense running 1 girl in to a brick wall of defenders.

Their community embraces the sport but their youth program teaches the game the right way and doesn't let any PAL coaches kid score 80% of the points. They grow youth interest the right way. congratulations on another championship

Save it,they hate each other just like every other town on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

After Mt nah? G.C. has won 13 of the last 22 championships, Mt Sinai has won 3? How is G.C. the most consistent AFTER MT. Sinai? Mt Sinai isn't even more consistent than SWR with 5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

After Mt nah? G.C. has won 13 of the last 22 championships, Mt Sinai has won 3? How is G.C. the most consistent AFTER MT. Sinai? Mt Sinai isn't even more consistent than SWR with 5.

According to NYSPHSAA website (not updated for 2017 yet) GC has now won 15 of the last 23. 12 of 18 since 2000 and 7 in a row from 2006-2012. Mt. Sinai is having a great run, but they have a long way to go.

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai wins semi 16 - 1...just give them the trophy

GC in a rout

MS in a drubbing

I mean do they play lax upstate?

Even M Sinai's first round opponent was a better sparring partner than that.

Class A has had some success outside of LI; the other divisions, not so much.

Guess you're forgetting Garden City in B?

True, but they did not win in 2014 and 2015. After Mt Sinai the most consistent program on LI. Congrats with their win and Mt Sinai.

I see it as they have as many championships as Carl place right now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our family has been locked up against GC lacrosse for almost 15 years. They never seem to have a down year and when they do, they are still better than 95% of the rest of us. Look at the model. Never a top 25 Nassau scorer. They run a ton of kids out there and not just 12 like the rest of us who play an isolation offense running 1 girl in to a brick wall of defenders.

Their community embraces the sport but their youth program teaches the game the right way and doesn't let any PAL coaches kid score 80% of the points. They grow youth interest the right way. congratulations on another championship

Save it,they hate each other just like every other town on Long Island.

Hate or like each other, at least they pass the ball and play like a team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our family has been locked up against GC lacrosse for almost 15 years. They never seem to have a down year and when they do, they are still better than 95% of the rest of us. Look at the model. Never a top 25 Nassau scorer. They run a ton of kids out there and not just 12 like the rest of us who play an isolation offense running 1 girl in to a brick wall of defenders.

Their community embraces the sport but their youth program teaches the game the right way and doesn't let any PAL coaches kid score 80% of the points. They grow youth interest the right way. congratulations on another championship

Save it,they hate each other just like every other town on Long Island.

Hate or like each other, at least they pass the ball and play like a team

Are you telling me that on winning teams girls actually pass the ball with purpose? Are you saying that allowing the same few girls to race to the goal every time they touch the ball is not the formula for winning?

Our coach doesn't have a problem with it, our coach actually values that type of play. The parents of the girls who display that style of play think it is just great and they are convinced it is why the girls win. The only problem is that it rarely (never) works in the playoffs. Our coach promotes the "ball hogs" and does not understand that their selfish play is a hinderance and the reason for the early exit in the playoffs.

Congrats to the teams that win and to the coaches who guide them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our family has been locked up against GC lacrosse for almost 15 years. They never seem to have a down year and when they do, they are still better than 95% of the rest of us. Look at the model. Never a top 25 Nassau scorer. They run a ton of kids out there and not just 12 like the rest of us who play an isolation offense running 1 girl in to a brick wall of defenders.

Their community embraces the sport but their youth program teaches the game the right way and doesn't let any PAL coaches kid score 80% of the points. They grow youth interest the right way. congratulations on another championship

Save it,they hate each other just like every other town on Long Island.

Hate or like each other, at least they pass the ball and play like a team

Are you telling me that on winning teams girls actually pass the ball with purpose? Are you saying that allowing the same few girls to race to the goal every time they touch the ball is not the formula for winning?

Our coach doesn't have a problem with it, our coach actually values that type of play. The parents of the girls who display that style of play think it is just great and they are convinced it is why the girls win. The only problem is that it rarely (never) works in the playoffs. Our coach promotes the "ball hogs" and does not understand that their selfish play is a hinderance and the reason for the early exit in the playoffs.

Congrats to the teams that win and to the coaches who guide them.

Waaaaaa!!! Your kid probably just isn't good enough for her teammates to pass her the ball. The players know who can catch and who can't. They're not stupid, or who's going to shoot at the goalie AGAIN or who can't catch lefty. Stop whining FAT MOM!!! We know who you are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our family has been locked up against GC lacrosse for almost 15 years. They never seem to have a down year and when they do, they are still better than 95% of the rest of us. Look at the model. Never a top 25 Nassau scorer. They run a ton of kids out there and not just 12 like the rest of us who play an isolation offense running 1 girl in to a brick wall of defenders.

Their community embraces the sport but their youth program teaches the game the right way and doesn't let any PAL coaches kid score 80% of the points. They grow youth interest the right way. congratulations on another championship

Save it,they hate each other just like every other town on Long Island.

Hate or like each other, at least they pass the ball and play like a team

Are you telling me that on winning teams girls actually pass the ball with purpose? Are you saying that allowing the same few girls to race to the goal every time they touch the ball is not the formula for winning?

Our coach doesn't have a problem with it, our coach actually values that type of play. The parents of the girls who display that style of play think it is just great and they are convinced it is why the girls win. The only problem is that it rarely (never) works in the playoffs. Our coach promotes the "ball hogs" and does not understand that their selfish play is a hinderance and the reason for the early exit in the playoffs.

Congrats to the teams that win and to the coaches who guide them.

Waaaaaa!!! Your kid probably just isn't good enough for her teammates to pass her the ball. The players know who can catch and who can't. They're not stupid, or who's going to shoot at the goalie AGAIN or who can't catch lefty. Stop whining FAT MOM!!! We know who you are!

Wow, what a d--- you are. Now we all know where your selfish brat gets it from. I am not sure what team your daughter plays for but I can tell you that my daughters team lost because of the selfish play of three players and a lot of help from an incompetent coach. I am not sure who you are referring to when you say "we know who you are" . What I do know is if your daughter is one of the selfish players
Everybody knows who she is and her teammates can't stand her. I don't know who you are but I will guarantee that few if any of the other parents want anything to do with you. So carry on and continue to encourage your daughter to go to the goal every time she gets the ball and then watch as the team collapses and falls apart under the weight of her selfish play.

Not sure why MS or WM coach didn't get coach of the year for Suffolk Monday night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why MS or WM coach didn't get coach of the year for Suffolk Monday night.

why on earth would h the ward Melville coach get coach of the year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why MS or WM coach didn't get coach of the year for Suffolk Monday night.

why on earth would h the ward Melville coach get coach of the year

Here we go!

and this keeps you up at night?

WM – Went undefeated during regular season
MS - Won States (again)

I think these are two reasons for consideration.
Not losing any sleep, just surprised one of them didn't win.

Season is over everyone. Move on to taunting your summer teams and coaches now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why MS or WM coach didn't get coach of the year for Suffolk Monday night.

why on earth would h the ward Melville coach get coach of the year

Here we go!

?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM – Went undefeated during regular season
MS - Won States (again)

I think these are two reasons for consideration.
Not losing any sleep, just surprised one of them didn't win.

I have no idea who was named coach of the year. Do they select one coach from each division or is it just one for all of suffolk?

Winning a State Championship should certainly put you in the conversation so MS Coach should be considered.

Orchestrating another Playoff meltdown has to exclude the WM coach from any discussion regarding coach of the year.

UA tryouts just another example of politics at its best.

If you keep getting burned stop touching the stove. UA is just the latest issue added to a long list with ties to connected people and money. Travel lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving business in all of sport and the parents are only in it for their own kids and never the team. Hopefully the slowdown on verbals until 11th grade help change the toxic atmosphere. If you are a purest that loves the game I feel for you because its not fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA tryouts just another example of politics at its best.

Groundhog Day....

Class D stinks!

As a native to the north fork, it seems like Mattituck players are pretty good and all around know how to play the sport, but head coach is a real jerk; doesn't play kids equally at the Varsity level, doesn't give a lot of compliments to kids, shows up a late to practice on a regular basis, things like that. I also heard he NEVER played Girls Lacrosse when he was in high school, that is ridiculous!
But it is true there are no Greenport kids at the jv or varsity level YET, they didn't exclude anyone. Class D is weak right now definitely, but our local paper explained they played in league C during the regular season, and class C used to be the same thing, 3 teams made playoffs, 1st seed got a bye to the county final (SWR, then Sinai for years).

Playing time on varsity level
Is never equal
The goal is to win games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a native to the north fork, it seems like Mattituck players are pretty good and all around know how to play the sport, but head coach is a real jerk; doesn't play kids equally at the Varsity level, doesn't give a lot of compliments to kids, shows up a late to practice on a regular basis, things like that. I also heard he NEVER played Girls Lacrosse when he was in high school, that is ridiculous!
But it is true there are no Greenport kids at the jv or varsity level YET, they didn't exclude anyone. Class D is weak right now definitely, but our local paper explained they played in league C during the regular season, and class C used to be the same thing, 3 teams made playoffs, 1st seed got a bye to the county final (SWR, then Sinai for years).

Just have to point out that it would be awfully hard for him to play Girls Lacrosse when he was in High School, because when he was in high school he was probably a BOY. In addition HS coaches never play girls equally, they put their best players out there. Now sometimes they don't always do this, or there is some debate, but there is never equal playing time on Varsity.

Yea easy "North Forker" sounds like you don't really know much about lacrosse in general, let alone boys or girls. And that conversation was about a week ago. If those are the problems you have with your coach I'd say you have it pretty good.

How are UA tryouts an example of politics? the teams aren't out yet and the girls just scrimmaged

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are UA tryouts an example of politics? the teams aren't out yet and the girls just scrimmaged

Because 90% of the girls did not make the call back, that's what they are beefing about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are UA tryouts an example of politics? the teams aren't out yet and the girls just scrimmaged

Because 90% of the girls did not make the call back, that's what they are beefing about.

Evaluators are YJ's and 17/22 girls on last years team were YJ. Some are very good but others a little less deserving

Newsday All-Long Island second team is out. Looks like every team gets to pick one girl to be on it - only one school with two girls.

where do we look for the 2nd team?...don't see online...thxs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday All-Long Island second team is out. Looks like every team gets to pick one girl to be on it - only one school with two girls.

Not every school has someone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where do we look for the 2nd team?...don't see online...thxs

Saw it on Twitter (@kennydejohn) and here on Newsday:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/high-...s-lacrosse-second-team-2017-1.13741097#1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday All-Long Island second team is out. Looks like every team gets to pick one girl to be on it - only one school with two girls.

Not every school has someone?

Not every school, but 19 of them.

Thank You for link!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday All-Long Island second team is out. Looks like every team gets to pick one girl to be on it - only one school with two girls.

Not every school has someone?

Not every school, but 19 of them.

how about a link?

Its political and business wrapped in to one. Newsday wants greater reach so lots of schools were asked for a player. the problem with a list like this is the best player on a weaker team isn't nearly as good as the 3rd or 4th best player on a state champ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday All-Long Island second team is out. Looks like every team gets to pick one girl to be on it - only one school with two girls.

Not every school has someone?

Not every school, but 19 of them.

how about a link?

How about you read more than one post.

How about the player listed from a team not even being the best from said team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the player listed from a team not even being the best from said team!

That describes ours - got a reputation coming out of youth and keeps getting the recognition / awards despite others passing her by. Either coach doesn't realize it he's just taking the easy way out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the player listed from a team not even being the best from said team!

Finally they got it right! My daughter made the Newsday Long Island team! Thank you! Patting myself on the back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the player listed from a team not even being the best from said team!

Unfortunately, happens more often than you think. That is where evaluators are naïve to the game and look at stats rather than the overall player. Furthermore, any input from coaches may also contribute to that mindset as some HS coaches are limited in their ability to see the player as a whole and what they contribute. That includes unselfishness plays, passes, groundballs, defending, redefending etc. All too often accolades are given to players who are one dimensional and can only go to the goal, those are the same players that hurt your team as a whole.

I know this is from 2015 but copy link and you will see what schools have best post grad job percentage

www.businessinsider.com/colleges-with-the-highest-starting-salaries-2015-8

copy and paste this one and you will see best college return on investment

www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-roi-colleges/

you might be surprised what lax schools don't make the list, and who does, you might be stealing your daughters in the wrong direction, lax isn't everything

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is from 2015 but copy link and you will see what schools have best post grad job percentage

www.businessinsider.com/colleges-with-the-highest-starting-salaries-2015-8

copy and paste this one and you will see best college return on investment

www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-roi-colleges/

you might be surprised what lax schools don't make the list, and who does, you might be stealing your daughters in the wrong direction, lax isn't everything

Please define "lax school". I do not know one single parent or student athlete who based their college decision on lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is from 2015 but copy link and you will see what schools have best post grad job percentage

www.businessinsider.com/colleges-with-the-highest-starting-salaries-2015-8

copy and paste this one and you will see best college return on investment

www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-roi-colleges/

you might be surprised what lax schools don't make the list, and who does, you might be stealing your daughters in the wrong direction, lax isn't everything

Please define "lax school". I do not know one single parent or student athlete who based their college decision on lacrosse.

School first. Barring injury the most your kid will play is 4 years then it's all over and the ONLY thing that will matter is their education. Picking a lesser school to play lax is the fault of a parent NOT a kid as they don't know the repercussions that will have on the down the road. Education first, lax will be meaningless once it's all over. If they can't find the right educational fit and play lax, go to the best academic school possible and play club. In 4 years or less this will be nothing but a memory but their education will last a lifetime and help them with their career choice and their future. I blame the parent that doesn't point their kid in this direction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is from 2015 but copy link and you will see what schools have best post grad job percentage

www.businessinsider.com/colleges-with-the-highest-starting-salaries-2015-8

copy and paste this one and you will see best college return on investment

www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-roi-colleges/

you might be surprised what lax schools don't make the list, and who does, you might be stealing your daughters in the wrong direction, lax isn't everything

Please define "lax school". I do not know one single parent or student athlete who based their college decision on lacrosse.

Any 8th or 9th (or even 10th) grade commit is choosing based on lacrosse - too young to make an informed decision based on academics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is from 2015 but copy link and you will see what schools have best post grad job percentage

www.businessinsider.com/colleges-with-the-highest-starting-salaries-2015-8

copy and paste this one and you will see best college return on investment

www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-roi-colleges/

you might be surprised what lax schools don't make the list, and who does, you might be stealing your daughters in the wrong direction, lax isn't everything

Please define "lax school". I do not know one single parent or student athlete who based their college decision on lacrosse.

Schools that have Lax programs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is from 2015 but copy link and you will see what schools have best post grad job percentage

www.businessinsider.com/colleges-with-the-highest-starting-salaries-2015-8

copy and paste this one and you will see best college return on investment

www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-roi-colleges/

you might be surprised what lax schools don't make the list, and who does, you might be stealing your daughters in the wrong direction, lax isn't everything

Please define "lax school". I do not know one single parent or student athlete who based their college decision on lacrosse.

BHAHAHAHAHAH seriously? We know tons of kids going to overpriced mediocre schools because the coach showed some love just so they could keep on playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday All-Long Island second team is out. Looks like every team gets to pick one girl to be on it - only one school with two girls.

Not every school has someone?

Not every school, but 19 of them.

watered

There are many issues with Mike Gongas with parents and players. He is very good at playing the victim game but in the end his colors will always show. He looks for the few parents who buy into his game and butters them up with promises he can't keep. He had many issues at NBHS where he was coaching with parents and players this 2017 season. Google his name many issues that are public (including different school districts)

So where is the listing of the rosters for the UA Tournament including all of the age brackets?

Spot on,see many Dads who childishly cheer for their own wanna-be, rather than cheering on entire team

Wow that is one of the nastiest posts I have ever seen on here. U should be ashamed of yourself! Disgusting!!! Karma is a [lacrosse] and it will come around to u. I feel sorry for u.

I absolutely MVhate DK and still think this post is way out of line. It needs to be deleted immediately. To whoever posted it, you're a horrible human being.

Hey congratulations to both of the teams from LI who competed and won their respective divisions. Well done ladies !

At what point does a site like this become liable for posts like this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey congratulations to both of the teams from LI who competed and won their respective divisions. Well done ladies !

Excellent!! Great job LI!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow that is one of the nastiest posts I have ever seen on here. U should be ashamed of yourself! Disgusting!!! Karma is a [lacrosse] and it will come around to u. I feel sorry for u.

The poster was from Levittown and his IP is now banned.

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow that is one of the nastiest posts I have ever seen on here. U should be ashamed of yourself! Disgusting!!! Karma is a [lacrosse] and it will come around to u. I feel sorry for u.

The poster was from Levittown and his IP is now banned.

I assume the original post was deleted . Have no idea what it said but would be interesting to post more info about the poster just to make them sweat .

Over the years I have been in homes (all using the same IP address)where girls post things on this board and as we all know they can be mean. Thank you for banning the address.

Hey all you over-zealous, loud-mouthed types. Please read. Your "enthusiasm" may be hurting your daughter.
https://iwlca.wordpress.com/2017/07/12/coaches-share-their-tournament-advice/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey all you over-zealous, loud-mouthed types. Please read. Your "enthusiasm" may be hurting your daughter.
https://iwlca.wordpress.com/2017/07/12/coaches-share-their-tournament-advice/

If they want your kid bad enough, they will put up with the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey all you over-zealous, loud-mouthed types. Please read. Your "enthusiasm" may be hurting your daughter.
https://iwlca.wordpress.com/2017/07/12/coaches-share-their-tournament-advice/

If they want your kid bad enough, they will put up with the parents.

I'm sure there are some who would, but why chance it. While walking the sidelines, handing out team flyers to the coaches, I've heard them talk about a kids attitude after dropping a ball and I've personally seen them cross-off a name from a list because of a parent. It happens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey all you over-zealous, loud-mouthed types. Please read. Your "enthusiasm" may be hurting your daughter.
https://iwlca.wordpress.com/2017/07/12/coaches-share-their-tournament-advice/

If they want your kid bad enough, they will put up with the parents.

I'm sure there are some who would, but why chance it. While walking the sidelines, handing out team flyers to the coaches, I've heard them talk about a kids attitude after dropping a ball and I've personally seen them cross-off a name from a list because of a parent. It happens.

Same. I've seen coaches leave the sidelines when a parent is being an idiot. It affects the whole team, unfortunately. I've also heard of kids who want to transfer in but the coach is not willing to deal with the parent(s).

Can anyone confirm that manhassett fired Danelle Galaghar

Come on You north shore snobs, chime in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm that manhassett fired Danelle Galaghar

don't believe it

I heard the Wantagh coaches stepped down.

Don't believe any of those Manhasset or Wantagh...until something is published by a credible source, not some pot stirring anonymous it shouldn't be discussed.

Suffolk "A" 2018 Final Four

- Northport
- West Islip
- Smithtown East
- ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk "A" 2018 Final Four

- Northport
- West Islip
- Smithtown East
- ?

Who cares? start a new suffolk a thread...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk "A" 2018 Final Four

- Northport
- West Islip
- Smithtown East
- ?

Ward Melville. Duh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk "A" 2018 Final Four

- Northport
- West Islip
- Smithtown East
- ?

Ward Melville. Duh

WM will never get it done with current coach.
MC is done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk "A" 2018 Final Four

- Northport
- West Islip
- Smithtown East
- ?

Ward Melville. Duh

WM will never get it done with current coach.
MC is done.

Your wasting your breath...none of the "A"s could come close to the B,C and D champs...couldnt come close to top 4 C teams. Give it a rest...Smithtown East's two best kids graduated...they're finished.

Are the Nassau coaching rumors true?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the Nassau coaching rumors true?

What are the rumors?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk "A" 2018 Final Four

- Northport
- West Islip
- Smithtown East
- ?

Ward Melville. Duh

WM will never get it done with current coach.
MC is done.

Your wasting your breath...none of the "A"s could come close to the B,C and D champs...couldnt come close to top 4 C teams. Give it a rest...Smithtown East's two best kids graduated...they're finished.

D lololololol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm that manhassett fired Danelle Galaghar

don't believe it

If it is true it better be announced before the Liberty tryouts and not after

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm that manhassett fired Danelle Galaghar

don't believe it

If it is true it better be announced before the Liberty tryouts and not after

Why should it matter?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm that manhassett fired Danelle Galaghar

don't believe it

If it is true it better be announced before the Liberty tryouts and not after

Why?

because if you don't play liberty, you don't start on the school team. If she isn't coaching the school team, we can play wherever we want or take the summer off!

Not accurate. And if your daughter didn't start, maybe it was because she just wasn't the best player at her position. I hope it's not true.

If you are good enough you start, no matter what club you play for

Originally Posted by Anonymous

because if you don't play liberty, you don't start on the school team. If she isn't coaching the school team, we can play wherever we want or take the summer off!

Stop, you sound silly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

because if you don't play liberty, you don't start on the school team. If she isn't coaching the school team, we can play wherever we want or take the summer off!

Stop, you sound silly

Yes silly. God know there is no intertwined politics between HS and Club especially with the YJ directors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm that manhassett fired Danelle Galaghar

don't believe it

If it is true it better be announced before the Liberty tryouts and not after

Why?

You don't think that would be an important piece of information in making a decision?

I don't think it should make a difference. Liberty has a lot of Manhasset kids, but they also have a lot of kids from GC, LB, NS RVC and other Nassau County towns.

It's a long drive back and forth to Suffolk County every Sunday morning for YJ practice - I'd suggest staying local for travel lax if you live in Nassau. Your daughter is either going to be good enough to play on her HS team or she won't. And cracking the starting line-up at schools like GC and Manhasset is tough. Very tough and it wont matter what club she plays for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think it should make a difference. Liberty has a lot of Manhasset kids, but they also have a lot of kids from GC, LB, NS RVC and other Nassau County towns.

It's a long drive back and forth to Suffolk County every Sunday morning for YJ practice - I'd suggest staying local for travel lax if you live in Nassau. Your daughter is either going to be good enough to play on her HS team or she won't. And cracking the starting line-up at schools like GC and Manhasset is tough. Very tough and it wont matter what club she plays for.

It will make a difference. Liberty is a Manhasset club with other towns who also play there. For the most part, Manhasset girls don't play elsewhere but you see girls from all the other towns you mentioned at other clubs as well. Manhasset girls don't leave but girls from the other towns move to other clubs. I truly believe Liberty tries not to be preferential to Manhasset players & families but it is all too intertwined. Take the HS coaching job out of the equation it is a whole different ball game. It might not happen right away but you will see more our of town players at Liberty and more Manhasset players will check out other clubs.

There are pros and cons to every program. Liberty is one of the better ones. Year round training. Good coaching. Respected owners. Maybe a little expensive but not really much more than others and probably cheaper than some. You could do a lot worse and add a lot of travel time to your day. The grass isn't always greener.

Liberty is definitely NOT one of the better programs. The majority of the girls in the program are from Manhasset so make no mistake, Liberty is a Manhasset program. The program is rife of nepotism as well - there are mommy coaches and DG promotes players such as her niece and her friends. Sounds like the school district from Manhasset has finally caught in as well if the speculation about her dismissal as head coach is true - where there is smoke, there is fire. I would avoid this program especially one with this type of culture and dynamic. Not healthy for you or your daughter.

If your kid goes to Manhassett, then your kid plays Liberty. If kid attends Northport, Mt Sinai, Farmingdale, ESM, or CSH your kid plays YJ. It's pretty simple and obvious. Other programs also work the same way. All others fill in wherever you think you can get some playing time.

Manhasset HS is rife with nepotism? Maybe it is - and I'd guess it works for some and not others. There are favorites everywhere. I have no idea if her niece and friends are better than your daughter and her friends, maybe they are, maybe they're not. At every competitive high school, kids are vying for spots. If the coach thinks certain kids are better, then they'll play. Same as at my kid's high school. It's high school, not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty is definitely NOT one of the better programs. The majority of the girls in the program are from Manhasset so make no mistake, Liberty is a Manhasset program. The program is rife of nepotism as well - there are mommy coaches and DG promotes players such as her niece and her friends. Sounds like the school district from Manhasset has finally caught in as well if the speculation about her dismissal as head coach is true - where there is smoke, there is fire. I would avoid this program especially one with this type of culture and dynamic. Not healthy for you or your daughter.

That is SO not true. My daughter played on fl$ for a year, Eleavte for a year and Liberty the last 4 years and we are NOT from Manhasset. The coaching at fl$ and Elevate PALES in comparison to Liberty. DG is an amazing coach which is exactly why Manhasset has excelled as a program for so many years and will continue to do so. The Liberty 2019 Team is one of the tops in the country hands down. We NEVER in 4 years had a parent coach which I cant say about the other clubs we were on prior to this - the other clubs are filled with parent PAL coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At what point does a site like this become liable for posts like this?

This whole website is disgusting and should be taken down entirely. Do their sponsors know what they are putting their names on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty is definitely NOT one of the better programs. The majority of the girls in the program are from Manhasset so make no mistake, Liberty is a Manhasset program. The program is rife of nepotism as well - there are mommy coaches and DG promotes players such as her niece and her friends. Sounds like the school district from Manhasset has finally caught in as well if the speculation about her dismissal as head coach is true - where there is smoke, there is fire. I would avoid this program especially one with this type of culture and dynamic. Not healthy for you or your daughter.

That is SO not true. My daughter played on fl$ for a year, Eleavte for a year and Liberty the last 4 years and we are NOT from Manhasset. The coaching at fl$ and Elevate PALES in comparison to Liberty. DG is an amazing coach which is exactly why Manhasset has excelled as a program for so many years and will continue to do so. The Liberty 2019 Team is one of the tops in the country hands down. We NEVER in 4 years had a parent coach which I cant say about the other clubs we were on prior to this - the other clubs are filled with parent PAL coaches.

You lose all credibility when you say the Liberty 2019 team is one of the tops in the country unless you mean top 50. What other to teams have they actually beaten.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At what point does a site like this become liable for posts like this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At what point does a site like this become liable for posts like this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At what point does a site like this become liable for posts like this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At what point does a site like this become liable for posts like this?

This whole website is disgusting and should be taken down entirely. Do their sponsors know what they are putting their names on?

Maybe after the 5th time you hit the Quote button ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty is definitely NOT one of the better programs. The majority of the girls in the program are from Manhasset so make no mistake, Liberty is a Manhasset program. The program is rife of nepotism as well - there are mommy coaches and DG promotes players such as her niece and her friends. Sounds like the school district from Manhasset has finally caught in as well if the speculation about her dismissal as head coach is true - where there is smoke, there is fire. I would avoid this program especially one with this type of culture and dynamic. Not healthy for you or your daughter.

That is SO not true. My daughter played on fl$ for a year, Eleavte for a year and Liberty the last 4 years and we are NOT from Manhasset. The coaching at fl$ and Elevate PALES in comparison to Liberty. DG is an amazing coach which is exactly why Manhasset has excelled as a program for so many years and will continue to do so. The Liberty 2019 Team is one of the tops in the country hands down. We NEVER in 4 years had a parent coach which I cant say about the other clubs we were on prior to this - the other clubs are filled with parent PAL coaches.

You lose all credibility when you say the Liberty 2019 team is one of the tops in the country unless you mean top 50. What other to teams have they actually beaten.

Some of their big wins were over MnD Black; Steps Blue and MD United.

Please. Spare us with the big wins. Liberty played these teams when quite a few of the girls on these teams did not play in the tournament since they already committed such as in Florida. Liberty tends to participate in tournaments where there is little competition. As far as the the comment that there are no mommy coaches on Liberty is way off base. Coaches from The 2019 team both have daughters on that team. It's Fact that Gallaghers sister is on the sidelines with her kid. Just be honest instead of spouting bull. It's embarrassing.

wantagh definitely needs a new coach. manhassett is a rumor with very good sources

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please. Spare us with the big wins. Liberty played these teams when quite a few of the girls on these teams did not play in the tournament since they already committed such as in Florida. Liberty tends to participate in tournaments where there is little competition. As far as the the comment that there are no mommy coaches on Liberty is way off base. Coaches from The 2019 team both have daughters on that team. It's Fact that Gallaghers sister is on the sidelines with her kid. Just be honest instead of spouting bull. It's embarrassing.

Hate much? If you don't like D.G. or liberty thats fine don't let your kid join. Go play with the yellow jackets they are completely fare over there, no favoritism at all. T.G. also, there is no favoritism over there either. I hear Elevate is totally above board. My daughter came up through Liberty and the club was good to us. we don't live in Manhasset and we were treated just as good as the girls that were. As a matter of fact my daughter and two Manhasset players were taken at the same time, and were treated the exact same way by D.G. . Both Manhasset girls, and non manhasset girls were taken before and after my daughter so stop saying things you know nothing about you obviesoly never had a kid in the club and your just spouting off the BS you hear from other people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wantagh definitely needs a new coach. manhassett is a rumor with very good sources

Hopefully they announce status of Manhasset coach before Liberty tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wantagh definitely needs a new coach. manhassett is a rumor with very good sources

Hopefully it will be known to public before Liberty tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wantagh definitely needs a new coach. manhassett is a rumor with very good sources

Hopefully it will be known to public before Liberty tryouts

If you're only playing there because DG is the coach at Manhasset, that's probably why you're unhappy. You should select a program that works for you and your daughter based many different criteria - it includes the owner but you also have to consider the coaching, the location, the price, the opportunities offered, etc. And if you think everything should be "fair", life isn't fair. And fair is subjective anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty is definitely NOT one of the better programs. The majority of the girls in the program are from Manhasset so make no mistake, Liberty is a Manhasset program. The program is rife of nepotism as well - there are mommy coaches and DG promotes players such as her niece and her friends. Sounds like the school district from Manhasset has finally caught in as well if the speculation about her dismissal as head coach is true - where there is smoke, there is fire. I would avoid this program especially one with this type of culture and dynamic. Not healthy for you or your daughter.

That is SO not true. My daughter played on fl$ for a year, Eleavte for a year and Liberty the last 4 years and we are NOT from Manhasset. The coaching at fl$ and Elevate PALES in comparison to Liberty. DG is an amazing coach which is exactly why Manhasset has excelled as a program for so many years and will continue to do so. The Liberty 2019 Team is one of the tops in the country hands down. We NEVER in 4 years had a parent coach which I cant say about the other clubs we were on prior to this - the other clubs are filled with parent PAL coaches.

I cant speak about fl$ as I am not familiar with the girls side except that we played them once and the team wasn't very strong. We too left Elevate 3 years ago and have not looked back. We still have friends there that stayed and they forever regret being there and said it was just too late for them to leave so they miserably stuck it out. We had a PAL parent coach at Elevate as our main coach for 2 years. He never played lax in college (nice guy) but was not nearly as strong as the coaches at Liberty. He ran the same PAL drills he runs with his 5th graders. My daughters Liberty coach played at Carolina and she is just amazing! My daughter has improved ten fold since she has been at Liberty AND NO she doesnt live in Manhasset!

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

whats your thought

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

MC will drop off the charts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

MC will drop off the charts.

WI & NP should be strong.

HS lax talk already. Get a life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

RP in Suffolk B. The almighty youth coach declared it years ago - State Champs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

MC will drop off the charts. i have to agree about this one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

MC will drop off the charts.

WI & NP should be strong.

WI u mean wm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

RP in Suffolk B. The almighty youth coach declared it years ago - State Champs!

RP drops to class C this year. They lost one of their best players who moved down south. They still won't beat Mt. Sinai

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

I'm putting my money on McDonogh again this year. Everyone else is playing for second place.

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I guess your daughter didn't make the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4
Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

I would say the A- Hole is the one belittling the list. I will agree with the top college coaches in the country, their top recruits are most certainly the top players in the country that is why they are the top teams... It is pretty simple, they get the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

I'm sorry. Are you their agent that you know they had several offers lol. And news flash. Many top programs as u call them, have walk ons. Ye this list is great on your moms facebook. But like everything else it's all politics

But can anyone (without sarcasm or bashing) answer the original question. As to who chooses them Hs coach. Travel coach. Or does IL watch them somewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

I'm sorry. Are you their agent that you know they had several offers lol. And news flash. Many top programs as u call them, have walk ons. Ye this list is great on your moms facebook. But like everything else it's all politics

Not sure why you you don't have to be their agent to know who they were recruited by. Keep telling your daughter it is all politicals. Do you tell her that Maryland and UNC recruit based on politics? Yes , some of the top programs have a few walk-on's but the girls on that Top 40 list are not walk on's , they are their top recruits.
The best programs go after the best talent.
If the list were filled with kids commited to Lehigh , Bucknell, Binghamton , Villanova , Colgate, Cornell, Lafayette , Marist etc... I would call BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But can anyone (without sarcasm or bashing) answer the original question. As to who chooses them Hs coach. Travel coach. Or does IL watch them somewhere

HS Coaches have nothing to do with it . If The HS Coach also happens to be the Director of a Club and they also have a relationship with IL and they want to push a particular kid then maybe they have some input. IL has people watch tournament's and such. The same players usually stand out. That is also the way the top programs recruit. They go and watch the top clubs play each other and then they recruit the cream of the crop. Oh no, forget that. I forgot it's all politics.

There are girls on the list that weren't on last yr. and vice versa
My daughter IS on the list. And tbh I have no idea how or who She was recruited before the rule change. It's crazy but she's happy

There is a girl on my daughter travel team on here. There were by far, better players on the tournament circuit this summer. And I know the college coach isn't pushing her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

RP in Suffolk B. The almighty youth coach declared it years ago - State Champs!

RP drops to class C this year. They lost one of their best players who moved down south. They still won't beat Mt. Sinai

THE best - by far. And one of the most valuable graduated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

I would say the A- Hole is the one belittling the list. I will agree with the top college coaches in the country, their top recruits are most certainly the top players in the country that is why they are the top teams... It is pretty simple, they get the best players.

60-70% of those players don't pan out and never play any meaningful minutes. Most rosters have 30-40 kids on them and 15-18 actually play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be any surprises this year or will the same teams be at the top?

RP in Suffolk B. The almighty youth coach declared it years ago - State Champs!

RP drops to class C this year. They lost one of their best players who moved down south. They still won't beat Mt. Sinai

THE best - by far. And one of the most valuable graduated.

As an outsider I was under the impression the best player was the Lady Eagles coaches daughter???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

I would say the A- Hole is the one belittling the list. I will agree with the top college coaches in the country, their top recruits are most certainly the top players in the country that is why they are the top teams... It is pretty simple, they get the best players.

Again you are just off base. No one should belittle the kids on the list but to say their top recruits are most certainly the best in the country is silly. Those coaches make "mistakes" all the time . My kid was recruited by several of the top teams and one of them had little interest , which coaches were correct ? Time will tell. We have played one of the so called top recruit in her age group when she played on YJ and let's just say she was definitely not one of the kids our team felt was one of their top players .

Everyone on here thinks their kid will go to Maryland and start as a freshman and win a national championship if they are a lax first family or that they will go to Northwestern, Stanford or an Ivy if they are smart and play lax.

Both groups are really small. truth for the vast majority of kids is they will play at some non descript lacrosse and academic institution which is great but nobody ever talks about sacred heart, Albany, Quinnipiac, Monmouth, Fairfield Marist and those hundreds and hundreds other schools

LMAO....no sport is more political (at the moment) than girls lacrosse.

If you think that list is legit, you're in total denial.

This has the program directors' fingerprint's all over it (and in some cases a high school school coach that has a solid relationship with the director).

I'd be embarrassed for any individual trying to defend the legitimacy of that list (and let's not get started about the recruiting process).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

I would say the A- Hole is the one belittling the list. I will agree with the top college coaches in the country, their top recruits are most certainly the top players in the country that is why they are the top teams... It is pretty simple, they get the best players.

Again you are just off base. No one should belittle the kids on the list but to say their top recruits are most certainly the best in the country is silly. Those coaches make "mistakes" all the time . My kid was recruited by several of the top teams and one of them had little interest , which coaches were correct ? Time will tell. We have played one of the so called top recruit in her age group when she played on YJ and let's just say she was definitely not one of the kids our team felt was one of their top players .

As usual, the post that started this argument was a negative post from a bitter jealous individual. None of the parents of the Top 40 players came on here and posted the list or pointed it out. The trolls came out and tried to tear down the list and the players who were recognized.

To say that 60% - 70% of those players will not pan out is simply a foolish statement especially without defining what you mean by "pan out".

Some people want to know how players make the list and are genuinely curious but I suspect that there are some who are trying to figure out who they can call to get their kid on the list next year.

Maryland brings in 8 - 10 players per year, they keep a roster size in the low to mid 30's. Currently the Terp's have 35 players on the roster 8 fr, 9 so, 9 jr, 7 sr. and two red-shirts R-sr, R-so.

Many on here like to claim that the majority of players stop playing, don't pan out, never see the field etc...

The reality is that the majority of the players on these lists will go on to have nice playing careers and get a good education. (can't wait to hear the bashing of MD, UNC, FLA, PSU etc...)

The results don't lie, the top programs recruit and get the top players.

I know, I know the list is a joke and your daughter is just as good if not better than many of the girls on the list. She had offers from Maryland, North Carolina and Penn State but she didn't want to go to a big state school. She had offers from Northwestern, Note Dame and Boston College and although they are good schools she could not choose her major. Princeton, Stanford and Duke made offers but you advised her to go somewhere else. Or maybe, none of the top programs in the country made offers and you blamed it on politics.

Keep bashing, keep hating and keep telling yourself and your kid that it's all about politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Keep bashing, keep hating and keep telling yourself and your kid that it's all about politics.

And you keep telling your kid that she's one of the greats in the entire country for her age bracket, because a published article says so.

When she can't figure out why she's not getting on the field, not receiving awards or recognition in college while being low on her coach's depth chart and behind players that were not on these lists, many wish you the best of luck in helping to explain it all.

Just remember though, it's not about politics....right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Keep bashing, keep hating and keep telling yourself and your kid that it's all about politics.

And you keep telling your kid that she's one of the greats in the entire country for her age bracket, because a published article says so.

When she can't figure out why she's not getting on the field, not receiving awards or recognition in college while being low on her coach's depth chart and behind players that were not on these lists, many wish you the best of luck in helping to explain it all.

Just remember though, it's not about politics....right?

You're correct, the top programs in the country recruit based on politics. I guess politics play a role in who wins games as well.

Give it a rest already, the top programs recruit and get the top kids. Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument, just keep bashing.

If these lists were so inaccurate and the best players didn't go to the top programs the on field results would be different every year, they are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But can anyone (without sarcasm or bashing) answer the original question. As to who chooses them Hs coach. Travel coach. Or does IL watch them somewhere

IL chooses this list with the help of respectable club coaches and media personnel who cover a specific state/region but they don't have much coverage on the women's side compared to the men's side.

Just chiming in. My daughter made that list 10-11-12 grade. Twontime AA in hs. She's currently a soph at a top 10 school. Sat the bench entire freshman year. At a top program almost EVERYONE recruited is the best in their hs or club team. Have to earn your time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LMAO....no sport is more political (at the moment) than girls lacrosse.

If you think that list is legit, you're in total denial.

This has the program directors' fingerprint's all over it (and in some cases a high school school coach that has a solid relationship with the director).

I'd be embarrassed for any individual trying to defend the legitimacy of that list (and let's not get started about the recruiting process).

I don't know how these young ladies will pan out in college but that is not what the list is about. It is about HS and probably in some way about their respective travel careers.

I can tell you that my daughter has played against many of the top 40 on the senior list in High School as well as travel over the years. I recognize many of the names and can tell you they are very good at this level. It is a list that only lacrosse parents and kids look at. I would not worry about it.

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

not if a coach feels I are more conducive in that spot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

Anybody having their daughter's stick restrung w mesh now that the rules allow it? With the depth of women's pockets, will mesh be advantageous?

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

our daughter hasn't committed yet but that's because we are considering breaking the glass barrier and having her play with boys varsity team to see how it works out. she is very good size and is fast. lot of boys on the team smaller than she is.

2 of the LI kids being on that list is a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

If your daughter is good its the easiest way to get on the field. Most me first parents want their kids scoring goals, pitching or playing quarterback. You also see on the club teams kids move to defense rather than take the demotion to a lower team. If she moves there freely and works on her game Defense is a great position especially if you are smart with quick feet. Lots of strategy that can decide games. Go D!

You had no idea your daughter your daughter was going to be on the list. Give us a break

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

I don't think that anyone who's kid is on the list thinks that their kid is the only good player.

It is funny to listen to all the experts who so desperately want to diminish the list and point out how their are other good players (namely their daughters) who are not on the list.

The facts are the facts. The best programs identify the top talent and the majority of top talent choose to go to the top programs. Like the earlier posts indicated: if a player is not on the list and the player did not have offers from the top programs then the player is more than likely not a top tier player.

Blame it on politics all you want but at the end of the day does it really surprise anyone that 5 Maryland Commits are listed in the top 40?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

I don't think that anyone who's kid is on the list thinks that their kid is the only good player.

It is funny to listen to all the experts who so desperately want to diminish the list and point out how their are other good players (namely their daughters) who are not on the list.

The facts are the facts. The best programs identify the top talent and the majority of top talent choose to go to the top programs. Like the earlier posts indicated: if a player is not on the list and the player did not have offers from the top programs then the player is more than likely not a top tier player.

Blame it on politics all you want but at the end of the day does it really surprise anyone that 5 Maryland Commits are listed in the top 40?

You are missing the point of the last post. There are plenty of players committed to the same programs that the girls on the list are committed to. For instance, Maryland has more than 5 commits in this class. Might there be some of the other girls who are also committed to Maryland who might be better than a couple of the ones on the list? There very well may be. And same goes for all of the schools. Some of the choices on the list may very well be political.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

If your daughter is good its the easiest way to get on the field. Most me first parents want their kids scoring goals, pitching or playing quarterback. You also see on the club teams kids move to defense rather than take the demotion to a lower team. If she moves there freely and works on her game Defense is a great position especially if you are smart with quick feet. Lots of strategy that can decide games. Go D!

By far the toughest field position to play. Many are asked to play because they are the only ones who can do it. Only low level coaches who know very little put a liability on D. You can hide on attact and just move the ball and if you can run you can get away with playing midfield but if you are lazy , slow , not athletic , weak etc... You will be exposed on D. Plenty of slow lazy attack, and a lot of middies who are very average can hide on the field. Keep in mind I am not talking about stud attack or midfield players obviously they would most likely be able to play D. Mistakes on D are costly and obvious to a good coach . You must also be selfless (which is a not taught by many girls lacrosse parents) .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

I don't think that anyone who's kid is on the list thinks that their kid is the only good player.

It is funny to listen to all the experts who so desperately want to diminish the list and point out how their are other good players (namely their daughters) who are not on the list.

The facts are the facts. The best programs identify the top talent and the majority of top talent choose to go to the top programs. Like the earlier posts indicated: if a player is not on the list and the player did not have offers from the top programs then the player is more than likely not a top tier player.

Blame it on politics all you want but at the end of the day does it really surprise anyone that 5 Maryland Commits are listed in the top 40?

You are missing the point of the last post. There are plenty of players committed to the same programs that the girls on the list are committed to. For instance, Maryland has more than 5 commits in this class. Might there be some of the other girls who are also committed to Maryland who might be better than a couple of the ones on the list? There very well may be. And same goes for all of the schools. Some of the choices on the list may very well be political.

I could care less about this list or any other list but it does bother me when I hear the jealous A--Holes on this site, on the sidelines and elsewhere spew their bitter thoughts and try to tear down any girl who has more success or gets more recognition than their daughter.

Here are some facts.

Many of the best universities in the country also happen to field some of the best lacrosse programs in the the nation. These are the schools that the majority of the top players go to.

The 10 schools listed below are the only schools that have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past six years. The number listed is the universities 2017 academic rank.

Does it really surprise anyone that the majority of the top players in the country are headed to the schools listed? These schools are at the top year in and year out because they get the best players. They are great schools with great lacrosse programs.

I'm sure many of you will still say the reason your daughter did not get an offer from these schools was POLITICAL.

1 - Princeton
8 - Penn
12 - Northwestern
15 - Notre Dame
24 - University of Virginia
30 - University of North Carolina
50 - Penn State University
50 - University of Florida
60 - University of Maryland
60 - Syracuse University

In addition to the 10 schools above:

8 - Duke
31 - Boston College
- Have both finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in five of the past six years.

5 - Stanford
23 - Southern California
- Will both more than likely be perennial Top 20 programs going forward.

Oh and by the way incase you missed it... just about all of the girls on the girls on the Young Guns list are headed to the schools listed above.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter that it is all politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

If your daughter is good its the easiest way to get on the field. Most me first parents want their kids scoring goals, pitching or playing quarterback. You also see on the club teams kids move to defense rather than take the demotion to a lower team. If she moves there freely and works on her game Defense is a great position especially if you are smart with quick feet. Lots of strategy that can decide games. Go D!

By far the toughest field position to play. Many are asked to play because they are the only ones who can do it. Only low level coaches who know very little put a liability on D. You can hide on attact and just move the ball and if you can run you can get away with playing midfield but if you are lazy , slow , not athletic , weak etc... You will be exposed on D. Plenty of slow lazy attack, and a lot of middies who are very average can hide on the field. Keep in mind I am not talking about stud attack or midfield players obviously they would most likely be able to play D. Mistakes on D are costly and obvious to a good coach . You must also be selfless (which is a not taught by many girls lacrosse parents) .

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm a parent of a college D1 Defender and it wasn't until college that anyone, except seemingly her parents and the parents of other defenders, realized that it's an important position. It was tough to watch my kid save games and have all the kudos go to whomever scored. Through the years I have watched coaches try to hide a player on D and it's just a gaping hole, a weak link, and a frustrating experience for all involved, from the goalie on on up the field and into the stands.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

If your daughter is good its the easiest way to get on the field. Most me first parents want their kids scoring goals, pitching or playing quarterback. You also see on the club teams kids move to defense rather than take the demotion to a lower team. If she moves there freely and works on her game Defense is a great position especially if you are smart with quick feet. Lots of strategy that can decide games. Go D!

By far the toughest field position to play. Many are asked to play because they are the only ones who can do it. Only low level coaches who know very little put a liability on D. You can hide on attact and just move the ball and if you can run you can get away with playing midfield but if you are lazy , slow , not athletic , weak etc... You will be exposed on D. Plenty of slow lazy attack, and a lot of middies who are very average can hide on the field. Keep in mind I am not talking about stud attack or midfield players obviously they would most likely be able to play D. Mistakes on D are costly and obvious to a good coach . You must also be selfless (which is a not taught by many girls lacrosse parents) .

You really need to get over yourself. Most are asked to play defense because they are semi athletic and don't have the stick skills to play middy. There is a reason a lot of the better colleges don't recruit defenders and will convert middies to play defense.While I agree you can hide kids at attack I will guarantee you if your kid had the ability to put the ball in the back of the net they would be playing offense as you can convert any athlete into a decent defender.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

If your daughter is good its the easiest way to get on the field. Most me first parents want their kids scoring goals, pitching or playing quarterback. You also see on the club teams kids move to defense rather than take the demotion to a lower team. If she moves there freely and works on her game Defense is a great position especially if you are smart with quick feet. Lots of strategy that can decide games. Go D!

By far the toughest field position to play. Many are asked to play because they are the only ones who can do it. Only low level coaches who know very little put a liability on D. You can hide on attact and just move the ball and if you can run you can get away with playing midfield but if you are lazy , slow , not athletic , weak etc... You will be exposed on D. Plenty of slow lazy attack, and a lot of middies who are very average can hide on the field. Keep in mind I am not talking about stud attack or midfield players obviously they would most likely be able to play D. Mistakes on D are costly and obvious to a good coach . You must also be selfless (which is a not taught by many girls lacrosse parents) .

You really need to get over yourself. Most are asked to play defense because they are semi athletic and don't have the stick skills to play middy. There is a reason a lot of the better colleges don't recruit defenders and will convert middies to play defense.While I agree you can hide kids at attack I will guarantee you if your kid had the ability to put the ball in the back of the net they would be playing offense as you can convert any athlete into a decent defender.

No, you can't. Lazy, selfish, slow, low lax IQ players will be exposed instantly at the higher levels. I believe the previous post pointed out that the studs who play attack and midfield could make the switch but the rest would quickly be exposed.

The top colleges recruit the best athletes. If the best athlete on the field is playing D they will get recruited ahead of average athletes at the other positions. Coaches do not recruit at high school games as most are non competitive with few legit players on the field.

Go watch two top club teams play and I guarantee their defenders are getting recruited. If they are really athletic they will be recruited over all othe players with the exception of the true studs.

I don't care what anyone says about hiding a kid on attack it doesn't happen at the youth level where most coaches hide the weaker kids on defense because they are usually big and slow with weak stick skills. Then they just run around saying BALL BALL BALL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

If your daughter is good its the easiest way to get on the field. Most me first parents want their kids scoring goals, pitching or playing quarterback. You also see on the club teams kids move to defense rather than take the demotion to a lower team. If she moves there freely and works on her game Defense is a great position especially if you are smart with quick feet. Lots of strategy that can decide games. Go D!

By far the toughest field position to play. Many are asked to play because they are the only ones who can do it. Only low level coaches who know very little put a liability on D. You can hide on attact and just move the ball and if you can run you can get away with playing midfield but if you are lazy , slow , not athletic , weak etc... You will be exposed on D. Plenty of slow lazy attack, and a lot of middies who are very average can hide on the field. Keep in mind I am not talking about stud attack or midfield players obviously they would most likely be able to play D. Mistakes on D are costly and obvious to a good coach . You must also be selfless (which is a not taught by many girls lacrosse parents) .

You really need to get over yourself. Most are asked to play defense because they are semi athletic and don't have the stick skills to play middy. There is a reason a lot of the better colleges don't recruit defenders and will convert middies to play defense.While I agree you can hide kids at attack I will guarantee you if your kid had the ability to put the ball in the back of the net they would be playing offense as you can convert any athlete into a decent defender.

No, you can't. I've seen it tried often and no. It's a different mindset and a different skill set and some girls can't figure it out or don't have the mental toughness. You sound like someone who likes to talk up your daughter's stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't care what anyone says about hiding a kid on attack it doesn't happen at the youth level where most coaches hide the weaker kids on defense because they are usually big and slow with weak stick skills. Then they just run around saying BALL BALL BALL

Most youth coaches are not very good... I'm sure most of the coaches you are referencing tell their daughter to go to goal every time she touched the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in general is it bad to get switched from attack or midfield to defense in girls lacrosse?

No.

If your daughter is good its the easiest way to get on the field. Most me first parents want their kids scoring goals, pitching or playing quarterback. You also see on the club teams kids move to defense rather than take the demotion to a lower team. If she moves there freely and works on her game Defense is a great position especially if you are smart with quick feet. Lots of strategy that can decide games. Go D!

By far the toughest field position to play. Many are asked to play because they are the only ones who can do it. Only low level coaches who know very little put a liability on D. You can hide on attact and just move the ball and if you can run you can get away with playing midfield but if you are lazy , slow , not athletic , weak etc... You will be exposed on D. Plenty of slow lazy attack, and a lot of middies who are very average can hide on the field. Keep in mind I am not talking about stud attack or midfield players obviously they would most likely be able to play D. Mistakes on D are costly and obvious to a good coach . You must also be selfless (which is a not taught by many girls lacrosse parents) .

You really need to get over yourself. Most are asked to play defense because they are semi athletic and don't have the stick skills to play middy. There is a reason a lot of the better colleges don't recruit defenders and will convert middies to play defense.While I agree you can hide kids at attack I will guarantee you if your kid had the ability to put the ball in the back of the net they would be playing offense as you can convert any athlete into a decent defender.

No, you can't. Lazy, selfish, slow, low lax IQ players will be exposed instantly at the higher levels. I believe the previous post pointed out that the studs who play attack and midfield could make the switch but the rest would quickly be exposed.

The top colleges recruit the best athletes. If the best athlete on the field is playing D they will get recruited ahead of average athletes at the other positions. Coaches do not recruit at high school games as most are non competitive with few legit players on the field.

Go watch two top club teams play and I guarantee their defenders are getting recruited. If they are really athletic they will be recruited over all othe players with the exception of the true studs.

You really are clueless. As you stated I went to look at the YJ commitment page for the 2020 age group and of the 21 kids listed I think 20 play offense for their club team. The 1 that does not plays goalie.The best athletes play middy , the best sticks play attack and you take the next level middy and make your defenders just like the college teams do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

I don't think that anyone who's kid is on the list thinks that their kid is the only good player.

It is funny to listen to all the experts who so desperately want to diminish the list and point out how their are other good players (namely their daughters) who are not on the list.

The facts are the facts. The best programs identify the top talent and the majority of top talent choose to go to the top programs. Like the earlier posts indicated: if a player is not on the list and the player did not have offers from the top programs then the player is more than likely not a top tier player.

Blame it on politics all you want but at the end of the day does it really surprise anyone that 5 Maryland Commits are listed in the top 40?

You are missing the point of the last post. There are plenty of players committed to the same programs that the girls on the list are committed to. For instance, Maryland has more than 5 commits in this class. Might there be some of the other girls who are also committed to Maryland who might be better than a couple of the ones on the list? There very well may be. And same goes for all of the schools. Some of the choices on the list may very well be political.

I could care less about this list or any other list but it does bother me when I hear the jealous A--Holes on this site, on the sidelines and elsewhere spew their bitter thoughts and try to tear down any girl who has more success or gets more recognition than their daughter.

Here are some facts.

Many of the best universities in the country also happen to field some of the best lacrosse programs in the the nation. These are the schools that the majority of the top players go to.

The 10 schools listed below are the only schools that have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past six years. The number listed is the universities 2017 academic rank.

Does it really surprise anyone that the majority of the top players in the country are headed to the schools listed? These schools are at the top year in and year out because they get the best players. They are great schools with great lacrosse programs.

I'm sure many of you will still say the reason your daughter did not get an offer from these schools was POLITICAL.

1 - Princeton
8 - Penn
12 - Northwestern
15 - Notre Dame
24 - University of Virginia
30 - University of North Carolina
50 - Penn State University
50 - University of Florida
60 - University of Maryland
60 - Syracuse University

In addition to the 10 schools above:

8 - Duke
31 - Boston College
- Have both finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in five of the past six years.

5 - Stanford
23 - Southern California
- Will both more than likely be perennial Top 20 programs going forward.

Oh and by the way incase you missed it... just about all of the girls on the girls on the Young Guns list are headed to the schools listed above.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter that it is all politics.

My kid is going to one of those schools you listed. And she is on one of the lists. And I still think the process for those lists is partly political.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't care what anyone says about hiding a kid on attack it doesn't happen at the youth level where most coaches hide the weaker kids on defense because they are usually big and slow with weak stick skills. Then they just run around saying BALL BALL BALL

Most youth coaches are not very good... I'm sure most of the coaches you are referencing tell their daughter to go to goal every time she touched the ball.

Very funny you are 100% right!

At my own personal opinion is at the lower levels kids were hidden on defense but As the level of play increases you need good defenders. My daughter who is recruited to a top 5 school loves playing defense it's her thing she also does the draw and she can be a great mitty. You need stud defenders to counter balance the stud attack

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

Judging by your comment, I'm guessing you've never played any sort of competitive sport beyond 2nd grade. How many feet to you move to get back to the buffet line?

You really are clueless. As you stated I went to look at the YJ commitment page for the 2020 age group and of the 21 kids listed I think 20 play offense for their club team. The 1 that does not plays goalie.The best athletes play middy , the best sticks play attack and you take the next level middy and make your defenders just like the college teams do.

In reply to the above:

Don't look at YJ or any other club team, look at HS, MS or Town/PAL teams... That's where you will see the better athletes are M/D. Weaker athletes, if they have to be played, get exposed more on the M/D end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

I don't think that anyone who's kid is on the list thinks that their kid is the only good player.

It is funny to listen to all the experts who so desperately want to diminish the list and point out how their are other good players (namely their daughters) who are not on the list.

The facts are the facts. The best programs identify the top talent and the majority of top talent choose to go to the top programs. Like the earlier posts indicated: if a player is not on the list and the player did not have offers from the top programs then the player is more than likely not a top tier player.

Blame it on politics all you want but at the end of the day does it really surprise anyone that 5 Maryland Commits are listed in the top 40?

You are missing the point of the last post. There are plenty of players committed to the same programs that the girls on the list are committed to. For instance, Maryland has more than 5 commits in this class. Might there be some of the other girls who are also committed to Maryland who might be better than a couple of the ones on the list? There very well may be. And same goes for all of the schools. Some of the choices on the list may very well be political.

I could care less about this list or any other list but it does bother me when I hear the jealous A--Holes on this site, on the sidelines and elsewhere spew their bitter thoughts and try to tear down any girl who has more success or gets more recognition than their daughter.

Here are some facts.

Many of the best universities in the country also happen to field some of the best lacrosse programs in the the nation. These are the schools that the majority of the top players go to.

The 10 schools listed below are the only schools that have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past six years. The number listed is the universities 2017 academic rank.

Does it really surprise anyone that the majority of the top players in the country are headed to the schools listed? These schools are at the top year in and year out because they get the best players. They are great schools with great lacrosse programs.

I'm sure many of you will still say the reason your daughter did not get an offer from these schools was POLITICAL.

1 - Princeton
8 - Penn
12 - Northwestern
15 - Notre Dame
24 - University of Virginia
30 - University of North Carolina
50 - Penn State University
50 - University of Florida
60 - University of Maryland
60 - Syracuse University

In addition to the 10 schools above:

8 - Duke
31 - Boston College
- Have both finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in five of the past six years.

5 - Stanford
23 - Southern California
- Will both more than likely be perennial Top 20 programs going forward.

Oh and by the way incase you missed it... just about all of the girls on the girls on the Young Guns list are headed to the schools listed above.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter that it is all politics.

My kid is going to one of those schools you listed. And she is on one of the lists. And I still think the process for those lists is partly political.

I guess the takeaway is the majority of the players on the list must be pretty darn good. Are some political? who knows? As the above post indicates, the 10 schools listed are the Top 10 programs in the country. That is not an opinion, That is a fact. They are the only schools that have finished the season ranked in the top 20 in each of the past 6 years. Duke and Boston College are right there with them.

Based on actual performance, it is safe to say that these programs consistently identify, recruit and get the best players in the country.

An earlier post stated that "these coaches are wrong all the time". They can't be wrong too often if they are always the best teams in the country.

You can call the recruiting process political, you can call the list political and you can say that it is all a joke or a head scratcher or whatever you want but at the end of the day the majority of the best players are the players who make up these lists and were recruited and had offers from many of the schools listed above.

Sure there are good players who did not make the list but to call the list political or to call it a joke is a bit of a stretch.

Congratulations to the girls who were recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

In reality, anyone can score in lacrosse, it's the easiest thing to do. Any 5th grader can score on the best goalies if given enough shots. Stopping a girl from scoring is far more difficult. Anyone that says being a defender is easy never played a competitive sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

Which position are you speaking of?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

My daughter is not a defender, and as a lacrosse fan in general, this comment is just stupid. Good lacrosse can be appreciated when played well at every position. Good goalies, make it look easy and integrate well with the defense. Even after a save and into transition, you need some defenders who can move the ball to get it downfield. Great defenders need to be athletic and have great awareness and when you have good defenders playing as a unit it really is a great thing to watch, great middies can play many different roles, from speed players, to offensive weapons, to ones that cause havoc between the 30's, and great attackers have a flow that makes the game look easy and exciting. But, I have heard many great coaches say that defense in lacrosse is the hardest type of defense to play compared to most other sports because the rules are stacked against the defender, and there is truth to that statement. There is so much that a defender can do wrong that will have negative consequences just from a free position/penalty standpoint, not to mention the playing portion. This also makes it very difficult to coach correctly, especially at a youth and MS and in many places through HS level depending on the experience of the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

If that's all you see then you are watching some poor lacrosse. What I see is a girl who sees the field, who sees a play develop on the other side's offensive end and uses her knowledge to decide how best to meet the coming challenge. A girl who constantly communicates with the other defenders, both listening and giving information, so they can work together as a unit to shut down the offensive drive. A girl who has to sprint all the way down the field on breakaways but be smart enough to know when to foul and when not to foul. A girl who has to use her wits to place herself to block, whether it's cutting off a runner or cutting off the shooting angle, all while not getting called for shooting space. A girl who can and will carry a ball up the field to start an offensive play. A girl who understands different defenses (and believe me, I've seen your superstar shooter who does not and cannot figure that out). A girl who has to be fearless regarding physical contact, whether by body, stick or ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

In reality, anyone can score in lacrosse, it's the easiest thing to do. Any 5th grader can score on the best goalies if given enough shots. Stopping a girl from scoring is far more difficult. Anyone that says being a defender is easy never played a competitive sport.

You are so correct, this is probably some asshat who grew up in Queens and never held a lacrosse stick. A lot of the defenders are some of the best athletes on the team. When you watch some of the higher quality playoff games in HS and high level travel teams you will see some tremendous defense with incredible speed and agility. You also need to keep in mind that no one on the filed is at more of a disadvantage then a defender. The rules are so slanted towards the offense.

Perhaps your daughter has been involved in some of the lower level games where there is limited defense and everyone goes to goal. Go watch a Mt. Sinai game once in a while. Man to man, zone...etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

In reality, anyone can score in lacrosse, it's the easiest thing to do. Any 5th grader can score on the best goalies if given enough shots. Stopping a girl from scoring is far more difficult. Anyone that says being a defender is easy never played a competitive sport.

And anyone who says scoring is easy is an idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

In reality, anyone can score in lacrosse, it's the easiest thing to do. Any 5th grader can score on the best goalies if given enough shots. Stopping a girl from scoring is far more difficult. Anyone that says being a defender is easy never played a competitive sport.

And anyone who says scoring is easy is an idiot.

It's not easy, just easier than playing D

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

That's sad for the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

I cannot imagine they are a good team...and I doubt you have a coach who actually played the game on a high level.

that seems to be common. unless you are in a lacrosse town, the less athletic kids wind up on defense in girls lacrosse.
boys seem to specialize almost from the beginning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

And let me guess...your HS team isn't that good.

Look at some recent Suffolk County champs... ESM, Mt. Sinai, WI. All had studs at D and M and Goalie... D wins championships...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

In reality, anyone can score in lacrosse, it's the easiest thing to do. Any 5th grader can score on the best goalies if given enough shots. Stopping a girl from scoring is far more difficult. Anyone that says being a defender is easy never played a competitive sport.

And anyone who says scoring is easy is an idiot.

It's not easy, just easier than playing D

Its only easy because they put the kids who could not cut it playing middy as defenders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

And let me guess...your HS team isn't that good.

Look at some recent Suffolk County champs... ESM, Mt. Sinai, WI. All had studs at D and M and Goalie... D wins championships...

You really are completely clueless, if any of the defenders on those teams were better middies than the actual middies they would have played midd. ESM best players for years have been the huffs and choma who all played middy and its the same with the other teams you have mentioned. Keep telling yourself that nonsense but in general your best athletes play middy , your best sticks play attack and the next best athletes are put on defense same as the order of recruiting , middies first, attack next then the defenders. There are exceptions but that's how it goes. Goalies are a different category all together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

And let me guess...your HS team isn't that good.

Look at some recent Suffolk County champs... ESM, Mt. Sinai, WI. All had studs at D and M and Goalie... D wins championships...

You really are completely clueless, if any of the defenders on those teams were better middies than the actual middies they would have played midd. ESM best players for years have been the huffs and choma who all played middy and its the same with the other teams you have mentioned. Keep telling yourself that nonsense but in general your best athletes play middy , your best sticks play attack and the next best athletes are put on defense same as the order of recruiting , middies first, attack next then the defenders. There are exceptions but that's how it goes. Goalies are a different category all together.

Or...if any of the middies were better defenders than the actual defenders they would have played D. ESM's best players, whatever. I think you're going by press and defenders rarely get press. The fact is if your D sucks, you won't get far. ESM gets as far as they do because their D doesn't suck. You are stuck in a PAL mentality.

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

This happens more than you think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Exactly, they aren't winning because of their Attackers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

Or your kid can go to better colleges than Syracuse, Penn State, Florida and play D3 lacrosse and get out of college with a better education like Amherst, Bowdoin, MIT, etc and the list goes on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Or your kid can go to better colleges than Syracuse, Penn State, Florida and play D3 lacrosse and get out of college with a better education like Amherst, Bowdoin, MIT, etc and the list goes on.

i agree. Although I do like penn state lol. But there are great academic d3 schools where they can still enjoy playing the game. It's really crazy. And I fed right into it with my kid and now am second guessing it all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

You can't use that list to support your argument, nor can you use the best coaches from the best programs ... The list is a joke and those coaches can not identify talent. My daughter is not on that list and none of those schools made offers but I know she is better than those players. None of those schools recruited her because of politics. She is a great player I called all of those coaches but they had to recruit other girls due to politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

This happens more than you think.

Parents tell their kids to switch to D to keep them on the field and on the team, most are settling because they don't have the tools, skill or speed to play mid or attack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

And again, you build your premise on something that is subjective. I've been on here for years, those rankings come under fire year after year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea , you need to be a stud to hold up a stick and move 3 feet in two directions

If that's all you see then you are watching some poor lacrosse. What I see is a girl who sees the field, who sees a play develop on the other side's offensive end and uses her knowledge to decide how best to meet the coming challenge. A girl who constantly communicates with the other defenders, both listening and giving information, so they can work together as a unit to shut down the offensive drive. A girl who has to sprint all the way down the field on breakaways but be smart enough to know when to foul and when
not to foul. A girl who has to use her wits to place herself to block, whether it's cutting off a runner or cutting off the shooting angle, all while not getting called for shooting space. A girl who can and will carry a ball up the field to start an offensive play. A girl who understands different defenses (and believe me, I've seen your superstar shooter who does not and cannot figure that out). A girl who has to be fearless regarding physical contact, whether by body, stick or ball.

Thanks you just described the best athletes exactly and they play midfield

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

That's not nice to bring facts into the discussion .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

That's not nice to bring facts into the discussion .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

And again, you build your premise on something that is subjective. I've been on here for years, those rankings come under fire year after year.

Whether the rankings r exact or not is not the point. The positions are. What you obviously don't know, is that many HS middies get moved to D in college. Why you may ask? Because the HS middies r the best all-around athletes and players at the high school level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

And again, you build your premise on something that is subjective. I've been on here for years, those rankings come under fire year after year.

Yes, they come under fire year after year by the parents of players who are not recognized by Inside Lacrosse or by the coaches who are the best at identifying and recruiting the top talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

And again, you build your premise on something that is subjective. I've been on here for years, those rankings come under fire year after year.

Yes, they come under fire year after year by the parents of players who are not recognized by Inside Lacrosse or by the coaches who are the best at identifying and recruiting the top talent.

You are foolish if you think the college coaches have anything to do with this list. And it's based on someone from IL watching random games over the summer.

unless you play at a top h.s. program or something other than a pay for play mediocre club team, why would you be recruited as a defense player? as prior poster pointed out, midfielders can convert to defense when needed at college level, girls who were changed the other way are stuck .they never developed offensively.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

unless you play at a top h.s. program or something other than a pay for play mediocre club team, why would you be recruited as a defense player? as prior poster pointed out, midfielders can convert to defense when needed at college level, girls who were changed the other way are stuck .they never developed offensively.

Some never develop defensively.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

This happens more than you think.

Parents tell their kids to switch to D to keep them on the field and on the team, most are settling because they don't have the tools, skill or speed to play mid or attack

You are clueless if you think the position of Defender doesn't require tools, skill, or speed at top end HS and the college level. Take some time and watch these women in college play. Take your daughters to watch as well. You'll be surprised at the athleticism of the women defenders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

This happens more than you think.

Parents tell their kids to switch to D to keep them on the field and on the team, most are settling because they don't have the tools, skill or speed to play mid or attack

You are clueless if you think the position of Defender doesn't require tools, skill, or speed at top end HS and the college level. Take some time and watch these women in college play. Take your daughters to watch as well. You'll be surprised at the athleticism of the women defenders.

Yup. and most played middie in HS. Sorry.

yes. that is the point. some conference 3 defender or a conference 1 (A) middie with BOTH defensive and offensive game skills. assuming conf 3 or 4 player gets to play college at all a reach..... the best conferences (at least on long island) are 1, 2 and catholic league. their middies are most apt to possibly be recruited and play at some level in college ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

This happens more than you think.

Parents tell their kids to switch to D to keep them on the field and on the team, most are settling because they don't have the tools, skill or speed to play mid or attack

You are clueless if you think the position of Defender doesn't require tools, skill, or speed at top end HS and the college level. Take some time and watch these women in college play. Take your daughters to watch as well. You'll be surprised at the athleticism of the women defenders.

Yup. and most played middie in HS. Sorry.

Yup, none were Attackers....no apologies necessary

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The defense at our HS is all girls who either couldn't cut it at middy or attack or can't run. None of them started on Defense, they kind of just ended up there

This happens more than you think.

Parents tell their kids to switch to D to keep them on the field and on the team, most are settling because they don't have the tools, skill or speed to play mid or attack

You are clueless if you think the position of Defender doesn't require tools, skill, or speed at top end HS and the college level. Take some time and watch these women in college play. Take your daughters to watch as well. You'll be surprised at the athleticism of the women defenders.

Yup. and most played middie in HS. Sorry.

Yup, none were Attackers....no apologies necessary

No one said they were. what they were saying was that they are very often not HS defenders. Because the vast majority of HS defenders (yes w some exceptions) are NOT the best athletes on their teams. And yes college defenders at the highest level are very good athletes. Hence the fact that most of them played middie in HS. Once again making the point that HS defenders are often at that position because they are neither the best athletes on the team (middies r) nor the best sticks on the team (attackers r).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.

Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.

And again, you build your premise on something that is subjective. I've been on here for years, those rankings come under fire year after year.

Yes, they come under fire year after year by the parents of players who are not recognized by Inside Lacrosse or by the coaches who are the best at identifying and recruiting the top talent.

Not saying the rankings are perfect but know many of the girls on the list and they are very, very good players. Editor of ILWomen puts this together and puts a ton of time into it speaking with many college coaches, high school coaches, and club coaches and personally watched several times many of these girls and many who didn't make the list.

For the haters...the editor of ILWomen who personally puts together the recruiting rankings actually spends a lot of time during the course of the whole year talking to college coaches, club, and high school coaches about the girls. She also knows a ton about each of these girls individually which might surprise you and has seen many of them play several times. She was a former 4x All-American at Syracuse and is extremely well-connected with the top coaches and programs, she knows who can play and takes these lists very seriously. Not saying they are perfect or other girls shouldn't be ranked, just saying she knows what she is doing, is well-connected, and spends a lot of time on the rankings.

Haters going hate, just stop the jealous b.s. when you don't know what you are talking about.

I'm sure the IL editor put countless hours in on the list, ESPN and MSG Varsity as well - lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the haters...the editor of ILWomen who personally puts together the recruiting rankings actually spends a lot of time during the course of the whole year talking to college coaches, club, and high school coaches about the girls. She also knows a ton about each of these girls individually which might surprise you and has seen many of them play several times. She was a former 4x All-American at Syracuse and is extremely well-connected with the top coaches and programs, she knows who can play and takes these lists very seriously. Not saying they are perfect or other girls shouldn't be ranked, just saying she knows what she is doing, is well-connected, and spends a lot of time on the rankings.

Haters going hate, just stop the jealous b.s. when you don't know what you are talking about.

Halley does the best she can. But there is no way for her to not rely on club coaches and HS coaches etc. as you say. And those coaches r inherently very biased. The lists are decent, as in all the girls are deserving of recognition for being good/great players. But there is no question that there are girls on the list not in the right spots and some girls left off that are better than some on there. It is the nature of these things.

Defenders are made up of middies who couldn't make it at the next level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Defenders are made up of middies who couldn't make it at the next level.

I get it, you're trying to provoke argument to continue this debate....

Or you obviously have no knowledge of the game of Women's Lax at the college level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Il come up with these watch lists. Some are ridiculous choices Barely play on a clubs b team

I just checked the Top 40 list and the majority of the girls are committed to the top programs in the country. Most of those girls all had offers from several of those schools.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

Here is a news flash... if your kid did not have offers from at least a few of the perennial Top 10 Programs she is most likely not a top tier player.

It doesn't sound as if your daughter made the list therefore I will guess that Maryland , UNC and Northwestern were not fighting over her.

To the girls who were recognized and to their parents I say congratulations and best of luck in the future.

Now slither back under your rock and keep your bitterness to yourself.

You sound like an a-hole. My kid did make the list but she understands and so do I that these lists are political at best and a joke at worst . There are many kids who easily could make the list that did not and many that did who probably don't belong.

I would say the A- Hole is the one belittling the list. I will agree with the top college coaches in the country, their top recruits are most certainly the top players in the country that is why they are the top teams... It is pretty simple, they get the best players.

Again you are just off base. No one should belittle the kids on the list but to say their top recruits are most certainly the best in the country is silly. Those coaches make "mistakes" all the time . My kid was recruited by several of the top teams and one of them had little interest , which coaches were correct ? Time will tell. We have played one of the so called top recruit in her age group when she played on YJ and let's just say she was definitely not one of the kids our team felt was one of their top players .

As usual, the post that started this argument was a negative post from a bitter jealous individual. None of the parents of the Top 40 players came on here and posted the list or pointed it out. The trolls came out and tried to tear down the list and the players who were recognized.

To say that 60% - 70% of those players will not pan out is simply a foolish statement especially without defining what you mean by "pan out".

Some people want to know how players make the list and are genuinely curious but I suspect that there are some who are trying to figure out who they can call to get their kid on the list next year.

Maryland brings in 8 - 10 players per year, they keep a roster size in the low to mid 30's. Currently the Terp's have 35 players on the roster 8 fr, 9 so, 9 jr, 7 sr. and two red-shirts R-sr, R-so.

Many on here like to claim that the majority of players stop playing, don't pan out, never see the field etc...

The reality is that the majority of the players on these lists will go on to have nice playing careers and get a good education. (can't wait to hear the bashing of MD, UNC, FLA, PSU etc...)

The results don't lie, the top programs recruit and get the top players.

I know, I know the list is a joke and your daughter is just as good if not better than many of the girls on the list. She had offers from Maryland, North Carolina and Penn State but she didn't want to go to a big state school. She had offers from Northwestern, Note Dame and Boston College and although they are good schools she could not choose her major. Princeton, Stanford and Duke made offers but you advised her to go somewhere else. Or maybe, none of the top programs in the country made offers and you blamed it on politics.

Keep bashing, keep hating and keep telling yourself and your kid that it's all about politics.

The Watch List was more of the same:

Maryland - 4
Notre Dame - 3
Princeton - 3
Duke - 3
UVA - 2
UNC - 2
Syracuse - 2

BC - 1

Stanford - 3
USC - 4

The best programs appear to be able to consistently get the majority of the best players.

I am sure there are many good players who were not recognized but I think the combination of IL and the best college coaches/recruiters must be pretty accurate when it come to identifying the top players.

If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country. Until some other programs start doing better than the top teams I will agree with the rankings and the coaches of the best teams in the country.

Still about only 5 teams that have won it all over the last 30 years. The game needs other programs to step up and help grow the sport. The same teams year after year isn't good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country.

Funny you say that.

On the watch listL

Notre Dame - 3
Duke - 3

Notre Dame and Duke, think they've been getting it wrong?

Jealousy...the green monster...it's a terrible thing. The top 40 and watch list may not be perfect as none of these lists are perfect, but there is no doubt these are many of the top girls in the 2018 class if you have watched the club circuit or top H.S. programs play the last few years. Inevitably, some of the players on the list may not pan out/be top players for their schools, but odds are based on the results from prior years many of these girls will pan out and be major contributors to their program. Also, last year, 36 of the top 40 girls ranked by ILWomen made the Under Armour game as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Defenders are made up of middies who couldn't make it at the next level.

In many cases, you're probably right. But the great defenders are the ones who are passionate about defense. That's not a failed middie. It's a defender. In order to lock down a really good attacker you have to love what you do in order to develop the skill and athleticism needed to do it. Or are you going to tell me Becca Block isn't a tremendous athlete? Because I'm pretty sure she'd run you into the dirt. All while smoking your daughter on the draw.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country.

Funny you say that.

On the watch listL

Notre Dame - 3

Duke - 3

Notre Dame and Duke, think they've been getting it wrong?

Based on their team's performances the last couple of years... yes, absolutely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Defenders are made up of middies who couldn't make it at the next level.

In many cases, you're probably right. But the great defenders are the ones who are passionate about defense. That's not a failed middie. It's a defender. In order to lock down a really good attacker you have to love what you do in order to develop the skill and athleticism needed to do it. Or are you going to tell me Becca Block isn't a tremendous athlete? Because I'm pretty sure she'd run you into the dirt. All while smoking your daughter on the draw.

Again there are exceptions to every generality but the initial poster essentially said defense is where the best athletes play which is just a farce. As far as Becca Block running me into the dirt I don't play womens lacrosse I guess you do, and my daughter does not take the draw or is she even on the circle that would now be illegal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Defenders are made up of middies who couldn't make it at the next level.

In many cases, you're probably right. But the great defenders are the ones who are passionate about defense. That's not a failed middie. It's a defender. In order to lock down a really good attacker you have to love what you do in order to develop the skill and athleticism needed to do it. Or are you going to tell me Becca Block isn't a tremendous athlete? Because I'm pretty sure she'd run you into the dirt. All while smoking your daughter on the draw.

Just so you know Becca Block was a middie in high school you dope and converted to defense in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Defenders are made up of middies who couldn't make it at the next level.

In many cases, you're probably right. But the great defenders are the ones who are passionate about defense. That's not a failed middie. It's a defender. In order to lock down a really good attacker you have to love what you do in order to develop the skill and athleticism needed to do it. Or are you going to tell me Becca Block isn't a tremendous athlete? Because I'm pretty sure she'd run you into the dirt. All while smoking your daughter on the draw.

Just so you know Becca Block was a middie in high school you dope and converted to defense in college.

WHICH IS EXACTLY THE POINT!!! Thank you sage one. This thick person who started this out by saying HIGH SCHOOL defenders are great athletes is just flat out wrong. Most are not the best athletes (HS Middies r) or the best sticks (HS Attackers/middies are). This guy keeps switching the point to college, where many defenders are great athletes and were great MIDDIE athletes in HS. We get it, his daughter is a high school defender.

can you imagine how painful that dad must be to college coaches watching games(club)?

"sally is a stud defensive player who coaches begged to play defense, because the team needed her superior skill on

defense."

uh yeaaaaaa....rigggghhht....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy...the green monster...it's a terrible thing. The top 40 and watch list may not be perfect as none of these lists are perfect, but there is no doubt these are many of the top girls in the 2018 class if you have watched the club circuit or top H.S. programs play the last few years. Inevitably, some of the players on the list may not pan out/be top players for their schools, but odds are based on the results from prior years many of these girls will pan out and be major contributors to their program. Also, last year, 36 of the top 40 girls ranked by ILWomen made the Under Armour game as well.

Yes, making and playing on the Under Armour All American teams certainly gets the players on the map. The girls making this list don't appear out of nowhere, they are known commodities who have been gathering accolades their entire career and Under Armour does an excellent job culling out talent and is a good barometer of the top talent in the nation, so it goes hand in hand with IL selections. Now I will assume the people who will now complain about Under Armour are they same people complaining about the IL selections.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can you imagine how painful that dad must be to college coaches watching games(club)?

"sally is a stud defensive player who coaches begged to play defense, because the team needed her superior skill on

defense."

uh yeaaaaaa....rigggghhht....

You jest, but my kid became a defender around 6th grade and here's how it happened. The coach moved all girls through all positions. At that age, defense is pretty non-existent, everyone's a scorer including my daughter. However, she clicked on D, could play it, liked playing it, didn't whine about it like the majority of other girls ("go to goal! go to goal!) and stayed. She got recruited to play D at a D1, which she does and she starts. She anchors the D and the coach is already talking to her about captainship and she is not a senior. I attribute this in part to the communication skills she has to utilize running the back line. So yeah, it happens. Oh, not an athlete you say? Three sport varsity player, her first one was when she was in 7th grade. She is athletic. She likes D. She likes being able to shut down the hotshot on the other team. She likes a lot of the mental aspects of playing back there.

I'm the parent who said I groan when the middies come back to help on D, and it's because they don't get defense. IDC how athletic they are, if you don't understand positioning and your game sense is weak, you are a liability on the back end. Period.
Sure, some middies make the transition successfully in college, but you can't take away from what my kid did and does as a true defender from the way back. Apparently only the parents of defenders get this, and probably the parents of goalies because, trust me, those parents want a solid D in front of their daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy...the green monster...it's a terrible thing. The top 40 and watch list may not be perfect as none of these lists are perfect, but there is no doubt these are many of the top girls in the 2018 class if you have watched the club circuit or top H.S. programs play the last few years. Inevitably, some of the players on the list may not pan out/be top players for their schools, but odds are based on the results from prior years many of these girls will pan out and be major contributors to their program. Also, last year, 36 of the top 40 girls ranked by ILWomen made the Under Armour game as well.

Yes, making and playing on the Under Armour All American teams certainly gets the players on the map. The girls making this list don't appear out of nowhere, they are known commodities who have been gathering accolades their entire career and Under Armour does an excellent job culling out talent and is a good barometer of the top talent in the nation, so it goes hand in hand with IL selections. Now I will assume the people who will now complain about Under Armour are they same people complaining about the IL selections.

Excuse me, I think I just threw up in my mouth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy...the green monster...it's a terrible thing. The top 40 and watch list may not be perfect as none of these lists are perfect, but there is no doubt these are many of the top girls in the 2018 class if you have watched the club circuit or top H.S. programs play the last few years. Inevitably, some of the players on the list may not pan out/be top players for their schools, but odds are based on the results from prior years many of these girls will pan out and be major contributors to their program. Also, last year, 36 of the top 40 girls ranked by ILWomen made the Under Armour game as well.

Yes, making and playing on the Under Armour All American teams certainly gets the players on the map. The girls making this list don't appear out of nowhere, they are known commodities who have been gathering accolades their entire career and Under Armour does an excellent job culling out talent and is a good barometer of the top talent in the nation, so it goes hand in hand with IL selections. Now I will assume the people who will now complain about Under Armour are they same people complaining about the IL selections.

Excuse me, I think I just threw up in my mouth.

Probably because you are drinking again mid day. Get lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy...the green monster...it's a terrible thing. The top 40 and watch list may not be perfect as none of these lists are perfect, but there is no doubt these are many of the top girls in the 2018 class if you have watched the club circuit or top H.S. programs play the last few years. Inevitably, some of the players on the list may not pan out/be top players for their schools, but odds are based on the results from prior years many of these girls will pan out and be major contributors to their program. Also, last year, 36 of the top 40 girls ranked by ILWomen made the Under Armour game as well.

Yes, making and playing on the Under Armour All American teams certainly gets the players on the map. The girls making this list don't appear out of nowhere, they are known commodities who have been gathering accolades their entire career and Under Armour does an excellent job culling out talent and is a good barometer of the top talent in the nation, so it goes hand in hand with IL selections. Now I will assume the people who will now complain about Under Armour are they same people complaining about the IL selections.

Dang, you need to search the forum and see how political UA is and has been for YEARS. Of course the girls on the list are good, but there are others equally as good who don't have connections <cough cough and a side eye to CR>

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country.

Funny you say that.

On the watch listL

Notre Dame - 3
Duke - 3

Notre Dame and Duke, think they've been getting it wrong?

Notre Dame recruited well the last couple of years...watch out for them! ND commits beat UNC commits at Lake Placid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country.

Funny you say that.

On the watch listL

Notre Dame - 3
Duke - 3

Notre Dame and Duke, think they've been getting it wrong?

Notre Dame recruited well the last couple of years...watch out for them! ND commits beat UNC commits at Lake Placid.

Again 6-7 of those commits will never see the field, that's just reality

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country.

Funny you say that.

On the watch listL

Notre Dame - 3
Duke - 3

Notre Dame and Duke, think they've been getting it wrong?

Notre Dame recruited well the last couple of years...watch out for them! ND commits beat UNC commits at Lake Placid.

Again 6-7 of those commits will never see the field, that's just reality

Like who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country.

Funny you say that.

On the watch listL

Notre Dame - 3
Duke - 3

Notre Dame and Duke, think they've been getting it wrong?

Notre Dame recruited well the last couple of years...watch out for them! ND commits beat UNC commits at Lake Placid.

Again 6-7 of those commits will never see the field, that's just reality

Like who?

Crickets

Oh look, HS defenders who are athletic and got recruited. insidelacrosse.com/article/2017-ilwomen-top-incoming-defenders/50531

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Oh look, HS defenders who are athletic and got recruited. insidelacrosse.com/article/2017-ilwomen-top-incoming-defenders/50531

That's interesting. And two out of those 5 defenders are on final four teams.

Originally Posted by Luvtowatch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If IL gets it wrong it's no big deal but these college coaches get it wrong it will be very obvious when they are no longer the top teams in the country.

Funny you say that.

On the watch listL

Notre Dame - 3
Duke - 3

Notre Dame and Duke, think they've been getting it wrong?

Notre Dame recruited well the last couple of years...watch out for them! ND commits beat UNC commits at Lake Placid.

Again 6-7 of those commits will never see the field, that's just reality

Like who?

Crickets

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

If you don't care, why are you posting?

The jealousy displayed on this site is crazy. It is very unfortunate that the jealousy and bitterness of so many parents has turned the sidelines into a toxic environment as well. Spew your venom and hate all that you want but in the end know that the best recruiters in the game get it right many more times than they get it wrong. The on field results do not lie and the majority of those girls are headed to the best programs in the country. I know, I know... they will never see the field and they will major in basket weaving bla bla bla.

If a player had offers (or is committed to) one of top programs in the country Im sure she was also given consideration by IL and is a top tier player. However, if the offers were not coming from the top programs the player is most likely not as good as her parents think she is. Talk to any of the coaches from the top programs in the country and they will tell you that for the most part they all go after the same players. Maryland does not lose players to Marist, Syracuse does not lose players to Siena, Carolina does not lose players to Connecticut, Notre Dame does not lose players New Hampshire, Penn does not lose players to Providence.

The players on that list are pretty darn good and the coaches who recruited them have proven over and over again that they know how to identify they best players.

Amen to this

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

I have to agree with the below post. These UA this and Nike that are not helping players make the IL Top Player list. They (IL) have analysts that cover specific events but then they get help from club coaches and college coaches so they are pretty accurate with their list but are they missing some blue chips, absolutely but they can’t be everywhere or some of these other top tier players aren’t attending the coveted, top recruiting events therefore not getting recognized. But it’s just a list. I was voted the 20th best Attackmen in the country back in the day (04) yet I was runner up for attackmen of the year and a Nassau AA. You would think being from the ‘hotbed’ of Lacrosse would have helped but It didn’t but I didnt go to any of the 3 recruiting events offered back then....But it has changed a lot since then with great players from all over and there are a plethora of recruiting events to attend. End of the day, it’s just a list.

And the 60% of any given recruiting class won’t see the field that you speak of, is this a proven stat bc I know in my experience that most of them do play. I would say maybe 10-20% of the top recruits don’t pan out as expected but I can’t prove that but to say 60% is awefully high.

These are good debates. Stay on track and don’t go after one another. Good stuff

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

The point is at the schools your talking about every recruit is a top player on their HS team or club team, but statistics indicate they won't all play at the next level. The same goes for academics, I'm sure every kid in an Ivy finished top ten percent of their class, guess what they all won't graduate top ten in their class - again it's not opinion or "bitterness" it's simple math. If you can't understand this concept then your hopelessly lost - good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

The point is at the schools your talking about every recruit is a top player on their HS team or club team, but statistics indicate they won't all play at the next level. The same goes for academics, I'm sure every kid in an Ivy finished top ten percent of their class, guess what they all won't graduate top ten in their class - again it's not opinion or "bitterness" it's simple math. If you can't understand this concept then your hopelessly lost - good luck

I agree with the above post, no bitterness or jealousy. Do we agree 16 girls play in the big games? Then with a roster of 32, it is impossible for only 10/20%(3-6 players) to not pan out...the one poster said 60%(18 players) won't see the field...pretty accurate...the big time programs who have the elite recruiters only have to hit 50% on the 8 recruits they bring in each year to stay on top...Back to the rankings for a sec, 2019 list...maryland had all 12 of their recruits on the list...Are you going to tell me only 1 or 2 of them won't see the field? If we are saying these girls are the top girls in the nation, then by them not getting on the field, that would constitute them not panning out, correct? I think the number would be closer to 60% than 10%. I'm just looking at the numbers,,,With that said those maryland girls will probably win at least a couple titles...Have a good day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

The point is at the schools your talking about every recruit is a top player on their HS team or club team, but statistics indicate they won't all play at the next level. The same goes for academics, I'm sure every kid in an Ivy finished top ten percent of their class, guess what they all won't graduate top ten in their class - again it's not opinion or "bitterness" it's simple math. If you can't understand this concept then your hopelessly lost - good luck

What is the purpose of your post? If not to tear down the players then what? It is bitter and it is negative . You are attempting to tear the girls down by saying who cares if IL considers these girls the best? They will not make it at the next level (therefore they are not very good and the list is BS). Do you take joy in being so sure that some of these girls will not pan out? Do you root against them? If one of them doesn't get much playing time will it make you feel good?

You are correct, a certain percentage of recruited girls will never see the field but the reality is that the large majority of the players on that top 40 list will see the field and they will excel .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

The point is at the schools your talking about every recruit is a top player on their HS team or club team, but statistics indicate they won't all play at the next level. The same goes for academics, I'm sure every kid in an Ivy finished top ten percent of their class, guess what they all won't graduate top ten in their class - again it's not opinion or "bitterness" it's simple math. If you can't understand this concept then your hopelessly lost - good luck

I agree with the above post, no bitterness or jealousy. Do we agree 16 girls play in the big games? Then with a roster of 32, it is impossible for only 10/20%(3-6 players) to not pan out...the one poster said 60%(18 players) won't see the field...pretty accurate...the big time programs who have the elite recruiters only have to hit 50% on the 8 recruits they bring in each year to stay on top...Back to the rankings for a sec, 2019 list...maryland had all 12 of their recruits on the list...Are you going to tell me only 1 or 2 of them won't see the field? If we are saying these girls are the top girls in the nation, then by them not getting on the field, that would constitute them not panning out, correct? I think the number would be closer to 60% than 10%. I'm just looking at the numbers,,,With that said those maryland girls will probably win at least a couple titles...Have a good day.

Didn't look at the 2019 list but I did looked at the 18's.
The majority of players on the Top 40 list are going to Top Ten programs. My guess is that the girls listed are the top recruits at the top programs. Not all recruits are equal, Marylands #1 is probably stronger than their #8.

Most of the players listed are going to see plenty of playing time and the schools they are going to will continue to be the best programs in the country.

The fact is, Inside Lacrosse and the coaches who consistently find the best players happen to agree on most of these kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

The point is at the schools your talking about every recruit is a top player on their HS team or club team, but statistics indicate they won't all play at the next level. The same goes for academics, I'm sure every kid in an Ivy finished top ten percent of their class, guess what they all won't graduate top ten in their class - again it's not opinion or "bitterness" it's simple math. If you can't understand this concept then your hopelessly lost - good luck

I agree with the above post, no bitterness or jealousy. Do we agree 16 girls play in the big games? Then with a roster of 32, it is impossible for only 10/20%(3-6 players) to not pan out...the one poster said 60%(18 players) won't see the field...pretty accurate...the big time programs who have the elite recruiters only have to hit 50% on the 8 recruits they bring in each year to stay on top...Back to the rankings for a sec, 2019 list...maryland had all 12 of their recruits on the list...Are you going to tell me only 1 or 2 of them won't see the field? If we are saying these girls are the top girls in the nation, then by them not getting on the field, that would constitute them not panning out, correct? I think the number would be closer to 60% than 10%. I'm just looking at the numbers,,,With that said those maryland girls will probably win at least a couple titles...Have a good day.

Didn't look at the 2019 list but I did looked at the 18's.
The majority of players on the Top 40 list are going to Top Ten programs. My guess is that the girls listed are the top recruits at the top programs. Not all recruits are equal, Marylands #1 is probably stronger than their #8.

Most of the players listed are going to see plenty of playing time and the schools they are going to will continue to be the best programs in the country.

The fact is, Inside Lacrosse and the coaches who consistently find the best players happen to agree on most of these kids.

Question, How is it that possible that most of them are going to see plenty of playing time? Every Maryland recruit is on every grades rankings...like someone posted, there's 32+ kids on the roster...i've never watched a competitive game where 25+ kids play...You prove my pt by saying not all recruits are equal...top 3 recruits for maryland in every class will see majority of playing time...4-8 not so much if any at all...and lets not get into syracuse's 45 kid roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

The point is at the schools your talking about every recruit is a top player on their HS team or club team, but statistics indicate they won't all play at the next level. The same goes for academics, I'm sure every kid in an Ivy finished top ten percent of their class, guess what they all won't graduate top ten in their class - again it's not opinion or "bitterness" it's simple math. If you can't understand this concept then your hopelessly lost - good luck

I agree with the above post, no bitterness or jealousy. Do we agree 16 girls play in the big games? Then with a roster of 32, it is impossible for only 10/20%(3-6 players) to not pan out...the one poster said 60%(18 players) won't see the field...pretty accurate...the big time programs who have the elite recruiters only have to hit 50% on the 8 recruits they bring in each year to stay on top...Back to the rankings for a sec, 2019 list...maryland had all 12 of their recruits on the list...Are you going to tell me only 1 or 2 of them won't see the field? If we are saying these girls are the top girls in the nation, then by them not getting on the field, that would constitute them not panning out, correct? I think the number would be closer to 60% than 10%. I'm just looking at the numbers,,,With that said those maryland girls will probably win at least a couple titles...Have a good day.

Didn't look at the 2019 list but I did looked at the 18's.
The majority of players on the Top 40 list are going to Top Ten programs. My guess is that the girls listed are the top recruits at the top programs. Not all recruits are equal, Marylands #1 is probably stronger than their #8.

Most of the players listed are going to see plenty of playing time and the schools they are going to will continue to be the best programs in the country.

The fact is, Inside Lacrosse and the coaches who consistently find the best players happen to agree on most of these kids.

Question, How is it that possible that most of them are going to see plenty of playing time? Every Maryland recruit is on every grades rankings...like someone posted, there's 32+ kids on the roster...i've never watched a competitive game where 25+ kids play...You prove my pt by saying not all recruits are equal...top 3 recruits for maryland in every class will see majority of playing time...4-8 not so much if any at all...and lets not get into syracuse's 45 kid roster.

Here is the breakdown of how many players out of the Top 40 each school is getting.

Maryland - 5
Florida - 4
Duke. - 4

Syracuse - 4
BC. - 4
NU. - 4
UNC. - 2
PSU. - 2
UVA. - 2
Loyola - 2
Stanford. - 2
Princeton - 1
SC. - 1
OSU. - 1
Louisville - 1

The top 3 - 4 recruits at each school will most likely see a lot of playing time. Most of the girls on the top 40 list are more than likely the top players in each of their respective schools recruiting class.
The best players will play and based on the experience of the coaches who thought highly enough of these players offer them a spot I am willing to agree with IL and the coaches and say these girls are the best around and they will play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

I don't think that anyone who's kid is on the list thinks that their kid is the only good player.

It is funny to listen to all the experts who so desperately want to diminish the list and point out how their are other good players (namely their daughters) who are not on the list.

The facts are the facts. The best programs identify the top talent and the majority of top talent choose to go to the top programs. Like the earlier posts indicated: if a player is not on the list and the player did not have offers from the top programs then the player is more than likely not a top tier player.

Blame it on politics all you want but at the end of the day does it really surprise anyone that 5 Maryland Commits are listed in the top 40?

You are missing the point of the last post. There are plenty of players committed to the same programs that the girls on the list are committed to. For instance, Maryland has more than 5 commits in this class. Might there be some of the other girls who are also committed to Maryland who might be better than a couple of the ones on the list? There very well may be. And same goes for all of the schools. Some of the choices on the list may very well be political.

I could care less about this list or any other list but it does bother me when I hear the jealous A--Holes on this site, on the sidelines and elsewhere spew their bitter thoughts and try to tear down any girl who has more success or gets more recognition than their daughter.

Here are some facts.

Many of the best universities in the country also happen to field some of the best lacrosse programs in the the nation. These are the schools that the majority of the top players go to.

The 10 schools listed below are the only schools that have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past six years. The number listed is the universities 2017 academic rank.

Does it really surprise anyone that the majority of the top players in the country are headed to the schools listed? These schools are at the top year in and year out because they get the best players. They are great schools with great lacrosse programs.

I'm sure many of you will still say the reason your daughter did not get an offer from these schools was POLITICAL.

1 - Princeton
8 - Penn
12 - Northwestern
15 - Notre Dame
24 - University of Virginia
30 - University of North Carolina
50 - Penn State University
50 - University of Florida
60 - University of Maryland
60 - Syracuse University

In addition to the 10 schools above:

8 - Duke
31 - Boston College
- Have both finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in five of the past six years.

5 - Stanford
23 - Southern California
- Will both more than likely be perennial Top 20 programs going forward.

Oh and by the way incase you missed it... just about all of the girls on the girls on the Young Guns list are headed to the schools listed above.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter that it is all politics.

Below is this years Top 10 incoming freshman classes. I assume most of those girls were on last years Top 40 list.

Anyone want to take a guess at who the finial poll Top 10 will be or who the final 8 teams in the tournament will be?

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2017-ilwomen-top-10-incoming-classes/50464&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwii-sb4utLWAhWqLsAKHZY_DKoQFggFMAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AOvVaw37ds-rRQxmyzkidgMS8xEV

Tournament teams will be the same as always as documented above. It is impossible for new schools (except SB) to make the jump. Sport could really use a wild card champion. Would be great on many levels especially for recruiting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is on the list, we had no idea. We have no connections, no coaches pushing or selling her. Her hard work must havr got her there. Please don't assume it was political Because unless she has some fairy godmother that we don't know about The list is legit

Congrats to your kid. That is awesome! The list is "mostly" legit. And in NO way does that diminish your kid's or the others position on that list. All the kids on the list are great players for sure. And they are all heading to great lax schools.

But to the poster who detailed the schools the kids are going to: Sure they are all going to great lax schools. But there are many more kids committed to those same lax schools who are not on the list. It may be very legitimate to think that one of those other kids is better than the one included on the list. So the fact that a kid is on the list and going to a great lax school is not definitive.

As with any list like this, it is very subjective.

I don't think that anyone who's kid is on the list thinks that their kid is the only good player.

It is funny to listen to all the experts who so desperately want to diminish the list and point out how their are other good players (namely their daughters) who are not on the list.

The facts are the facts. The best programs identify the top talent and the majority of top talent choose to go to the top programs. Like the earlier posts indicated: if a player is not on the list and the player did not have offers from the top programs then the player is more than likely not a top tier player.

Blame it on politics all you want but at the end of the day does it really surprise anyone that 5 Maryland Commits are listed in the top 40?

You are missing the point of the last post. There are plenty of players committed to the same programs that the girls on the list are committed to. For instance, Maryland has more than 5 commits in this class. Might there be some of the other girls who are also committed to Maryland who might be better than a couple of the ones on the list? There very well may be. And same goes for all of the schools. Some of the choices on the list may very well be political.

I could care less about this list or any other list but it does bother me when I hear the jealous A--Holes on this site, on the sidelines and elsewhere spew their bitter thoughts and try to tear down any girl who has more success or gets more recognition than their daughter.

Here are some facts.

Many of the best universities in the country also happen to field some of the best lacrosse programs in the the nation. These are the schools that the majority of the top players go to.

The 10 schools listed below are the only schools that have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past six years. The number listed is the universities 2017 academic rank.

Does it really surprise anyone that the majority of the top players in the country are headed to the schools listed? These schools are at the top year in and year out because they get the best players. They are great schools with great lacrosse programs.

I'm sure many of you will still say the reason your daughter did not get an offer from these schools was POLITICAL.

1 - Princeton
8 - Penn
12 - Northwestern
15 - Notre Dame
24 - University of Virginia
30 - University of North Carolina
50 - Penn State University
50 - University of Florida
60 - University of Maryland
60 - Syracuse University

In addition to the 10 schools above:

8 - Duke
31 - Boston College
- Have both finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in five of the past six years.

5 - Stanford
23 - Southern California
- Will both more than likely be perennial Top 20 programs going forward.

Oh and by the way incase you missed it... just about all of the girls on the girls on the Young Guns list are headed to the schools listed above.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter that it is all politics.

Below is this years Top 10 incoming freshman classes. I assume most of those girls were on last years Top 40 list.

Anyone want to take a guess at who the finial poll Top 10 will be or who the final 8 teams in the tournament will be?

2017 ILWomen Top 10 Incoming Classes

10. Virginia
The ‘Hoos bring in playmakers all over the field, headlined by blue chip talent Chloe Jones (Lawrenceville, N.J.) and do-it-all playmaker Halle Graham (Good Counsel, Md.). Ashlyn McGovern (St. Paul’s School for Girls, Md.), Katie Railey (Notre Dame Prep, Md.) and Taylor Reagan (Rye Country Day, N.Y.) add balance as the class offers added depth top to bottom.

9. Penn
The Quakers welcome in a pair of players who could be game-changing over the course of their careers in Philadelphia: Zoe Belodeau (St. Stephen’s & St. Agnes, Va.) and Olivia Smith (St. Anthony’s, N.Y.). Laura Murphy (Darien, Conn.) adds depth, as Penn looks to return to its perch atop the Ivy League in 2018.

8. Florida
Welcome to the Swamp, Shannon Kavanagh (Smithtown West, N.Y.) & Co. – a class that features four Under Armour All-Americans with an ability to hit the ground running in Gainesville. The Gators were hit hard by graduation last spring; this group of newcomers will be relied on early and often in 2018.

7. USC
A year after bringing in the nation’s No. 1 recruit (Kerrigan Miller), the Women of Troy welcome in Under Armour All-Americans Riley Hertford (Lake Oswego, Ore.) and Kelsey Huff (Eastport-South Manor, N.Y.) to headline a group that looks to make up for the loss of two-time first-team All-American Michaela Michael and more.

6. Duke
Under Armour All-America game MVP Charlotte North (Episcopal School of Dallas, Texas) is warmly complemented by classmates Catriona Barry (St. Ignatius Prep, Calif.) and Katie Cosgrove (Churchville-Chili, N.Y.) to headline this incoming Duke class, as the Blue Devils look to fill graduation voids left by Maddie Crutchfield and Kyra Harney, among others.

5. Notre Dame
The Fighting Irish welcome the nation’s No. 1 overall recruit to South Bend in Andie Aldave (McDonogh, Md.) this fall. The do-it-all middie is flanked by fellow Under Armour All-Americans Kaci Messier (Victor, N.Y.) and Bridget Deehan (Milton, Ga.) as the trio headline an incoming class of nine.

4. Syracuse
The Orange were young in 2017, heavily relying on their underclassmen to make their way back to the ACC Tournament championship. With little room to crack into this lineup, talented newcomers Samantha Swart (Archbishop Carroll, Pa.) and Hannah Van Middelem (Mount Sinai, N.Y.) lead a group of Under Armour All-Americans and rookies looking to be the exception to that rule and push for immediate playing time in the ‘Cuse.

3. Maryland
The reigning national champions fielded a young lineup in 2017, but they graduated Tewaaraton winner Zoe Stukenberg and fellow finalist Nadine Hadnagy, among others. The incoming Terps add depth at each and every position, and the class is headlined by the likes of Under Armour All-Americans Catie May (McDonogh, Md.) and Grace Griffin (Liberty, Md.).

2. Princeton
Arguably one of the strongest classes we’ve seen Chris Sailer welcome into Princeton in recent years – and maybe ever, Margaret Donovan (McDonogh, Md.), Samantha Fish (Scripps Ranch, Calif.) and Kyla Sears (Skaneateles, N.Y.) headline a group looking to fill the graduation void of a class that made four straight NCAA Tournament appearances and captured a pair of Ivy League Tournament titles in 2015 and 2017.

1. North Carolina
The Tar Heels welcome in the nation’s top recruiting class for the second time in a three-year span, as IL’s No. 1 attacker Jamie Ortega (Middle Country/ Centereach, N.Y.) and ILWomen National High School Player of the Year Allison Mastroianni (Bridgewater-Raritan, N.J.) headline a class that has the ability to impact all over the field for Jenny Levy & Co. This class’ arrival comes on the heels of North Carolina saying goodbye to 11 seniors, five of which earned All-America status at least once during their collegiate career — headlined by the likes of Molly Hendrick and Caylee Waters.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea at all who any of those recruits are and don't really care, the fact is statistically 60% of any given recruiting class will never see the field in any meaningful way. Take a look at the sidelines in some of the early season games when the weather hasn't warmed up yet and you will see a significant amount of players on any given sideline that have sweatshirts on the entire game, they know they're not playing, because 12-15 players play the vast majority of the minutes, the other 15-20 players are the practice squad or bowling pins on the sideline or whatever they do. They may have all been HS standouts and UA this and NIKE that, but in the end it's impossible for 28-35 players to get playing time and that's not an opinion, its just simple math

So can we extrapolate and say that some of the UA this and NIKE that players got there through political lifts? Because if UA and NIKE chose the best, then the best would see the field over the other less-recognized players.

I was a 2x ua aa in hs. I go to a
Top
5 lax school. Was on the watch list soph and jr and was in the top list snr yr. as a freshman in college I played exactly 28 min in the entire season. It sucked but it was a lesson for me. To work harder

One more thought on the subject of "rankings" All the polls last year had BC somewhere between 10-20 and at one point in the season they were not in the top 20 teams in coaches or IL rankings. Navy on the other hand never sniffed the top 20, but somehow managed to make it to the final four. Duke and Loyola were top 20 teams in the same polls, based on what? School name recognition and past performance or were the so called experts and their rankings wrong about a few things? These polls and rankings are all just folly to fill magazine pages, draw eyeballs to websites and help colleges marketing their athletic programs. As with most things in sports and lax in particular follow the money, because that's all these list are for is to generate revenues for all those involved

The difference between teams 1-8 and then 9-20 is huge then when you get outside the top 25 its pretty even and pretty ugly. With the info posted above the rich will remain rich and we shouldn't expect any newcomers to crash the top tier party.

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The difference between teams 1-8 and then 9-20 is huge then when you get outside the top 25 its pretty even and pretty ugly. With the info posted above the rich will remain rich and we shouldn't expect any newcomers to crash the top tier party.

How can that be? There are so many great players going to all of the schools outside of the Top 10 (yet the Top Teams are the top teams year after year). The IL Young Guns Top 40 list is a joke (yet the majority of the players are going to Top 10 Programs) Under Armour is a joke and political as well (what schools do the majority of those players go to?) And don't even get me started on the recruiting process, what a joke that is. In order to get offers from the top teams you have to have connections. You can't get "the looks" if you are not tied in politically. Girls lacrosse is the most political sport out there, ability counts for nothing, its all about who you know.

My daughter didn't have a single offer from a Top 10 team but I know she is better than all of those other girls. Our club director sucks, that is why other girls were recruited over my daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

Very true, that's why Notre Dame and Florida (both top 5 recruiting classes every year) will always underachieve. The two schools simply based on their names recruit all the top talent the could ask for, especially ND, they both should be minimum a final four team every year, but they always fall short

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

Very true, that's why Notre Dame and Florida (both top 5 recruiting classes every year) will always underachieve. The two schools simply based on their names recruit all the top talent the could ask for, especially ND, they both should be minimum a final four team every year, but they always fall short

Florida not top 5 this year... How can you say they get all the top talent they could ask for? Does UNC. Maryland, Penn State and Virginia nor out recruit Florida? How about Princeton, Penn, Duke and Northwestern, do they not out recruit ND? If Travel is not an issue with a top recruit from Long Island or MD why not go to Stanford over ND? Neither Florida or ND is the top choice for a lot of the top talent. Both are good schools with a lot to offer but they are not the right fit for all of the top players.

Florida is good academically but not great. Some of the other schools you listed are great academically so if you aren't going to win a national championship, take the top educational school. Lacrosse ends people. Nobody cares when our daughters are playing and even less care after they are done.

"Lacrosse ends people." Punctuation counts, people.

Just came to the site looking for a instructional clinic for 1st grade daughter in Nassau... this has got to be one of the most intense threads on the web!!! some of you guys need a hobby

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The difference between teams 1-8 and then 9-20 is huge then when you get outside the top 25 its pretty even and pretty ugly. With the info posted above the rich will remain rich and we shouldn't expect any newcomers to crash the top tier party.

How can that be? There are so many great players going to all of the schools outside of the Top 10 (yet the Top Teams are the top teams year after year). The IL Young Guns Top 40 list is a joke (yet the majority of the players are going to Top 10 Programs) Under Armour is a joke and political as well (what schools do the majority of those players go to?) And don't even get me started on the recruiting process, what a joke that is. In order to get offers from the top teams you have to have connections. You can't get "the looks" if you are not tied in politically. Girls lacrosse is the most political sport out there, ability counts for nothing, its all about who you know.

My daughter didn't have a single offer from a Top 10 team but I know she is better than all of those other girls. Our club director sucks, that is why other girls were recruited over my daughter.

Let's hope this is a joke and not serious. Your entire premise is wrong but my guess is you are simply trying to stir the pot. If i could hit the ignore button for you like on other sites, I would.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just came to the site looking for a instructional clinic for 1st grade daughter in Nassau... this has got to be one of the most intense threads on the web!!! some of you guys need a hobby

We're intense and you're looking for training for a 6yo. Right. Hello Pot, I'm Kettle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how
to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

You guys really need to stop w the we almost beat the UNC recruits at Lake Placid thing , it means nothing. I think AK is a decent coach and she has done a good job getting some LI kids but honestly that team was very average and just happen to make a run at the NCAA tournament just like Navy. It's not like they played great at the ACC tournament .The thing about AW is she does not have the best rep amongst her players and many are intimidated by her , it's one of those situations when you ask how do you like playing lax at BC the reply is usually "it's okay" type thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach?

Ranked wins before Kent got their was the comment...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach?

I'm going to guess that his or her daughter did not receive an offer from the BC Coach.

Jealousy, bitterness, ignorance and a strong desire to promote and or justify one's daughters "club team, college, position etc" as the best.

Many on this site will try to tear down any and all players, clubs, colleges, devisions, rankings, all star teams etc.... in an effort to elevate, promote, justify or validate their daughter in some way.

Through your words and behavior many of you are responsible for the toxic environment that has permeated this sport.

Be happy if your daughter is healthy and able to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach?

Grammar?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their(there), probably have never seen there(their) team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're(the not they are) coach?

What High Schools are playing in winter leagues this year? Which League?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy, bitterness, ignorance and a strong desire to promote and or justify one's daughters "club team, college, position etc" as the best.

Many on this site will try to tear down any and all players, clubs, colleges, devisions, rankings, all star teams etc.... in an effort to elevate, promote, justify or validate their daughter in some way.

Through your words and behavior many of you are responsible for the toxic environment that has permeated this sport.

Be happy if your daughter is healthy and able to play.

When all else fails to elevate your daughter ... Point to spelling and grammar in order to show that you are intellectually superior to the Neanderthal parent of the gifted athlete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach?

Grammar?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their(there), probably have never seen there(their) team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're(the not they are) coach?

It was playing with the misuse of "oh after Kent got their". For the previous post, Get it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach?

Grammar?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their(there), probably have never seen there(their) team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're(the not they are) coach?

I guess you didn't have any real rebuttal to the post so attack the grammar. You sound rather petty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how
to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

You guys really need to stop w the we almost beat the UNC recruits at Lake Placid thing , it means nothing. I think AK is a decent coach and she has done a good job getting some LI kids but honestly that team was very average and just happen to make a run at the NCAA tournament just like Navy. It's not like they played great at the ACC tournament .The thing about AW is she does not have the best rep amongst her players and many are intimidated by her , it's one of those situations when you ask how do you like playing lax at BC the reply is usually "it's okay" type thing.

I think BC is above average, my daughter plays at cuse and They whooped us. The UNC recruits look like they are a little chubby and slow spare a few kids. But ya I agree BC is legit, you just seem like you dont know much about lax, average teams dont just make a run all the way to the end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she
would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how
to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

You guys really need to stop w the we almost beat the UNC recruits at Lake Placid thing , it means nothing. I think AK is a decent coach and she has done a good job getting some LI kids but honestly that team was very average and just happen to make a run at the NCAA tournament just like Navy. It's not like they played great at the ACC tournament .The thing about AW is she does not have the best rep amongst her players and many are intimidated by her , it's one of those situations when you ask how do you like playing lax at BC the reply is usually "it's okay" type thing.

I think BC is above average, my daughter plays at cuse and They whooped us. The UNC recruits look like they are a little chubby and slow spare a few kids. But ya I agree BC is legit, you just seem like you dont know much about lax, average teams dont just make a run all the way to the end.

So what you are saying is these fantastic BC recruits lost to a bunch of fat chicks , okay . BC lost to Duke and VaTech among others so let's not pretend AW is Cathy Reese . Again ask the players how they like playing for her ,say what you want but you will hear a lot of "it's okay".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BC and Navy both showed that coaching plays a major role in the success of these teams. We all know the teams that are packed with top talent each year yet always underachieve.

BC couldn't beat anybody for the first half of the season, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach midway through the season or did the lefty hockey player come and change the dynamic of the team? I'm betting it was the latter. Walker is a half step ahead of Halfpenny and O'Leary when it comes to managing a game, which means she would be more prone to figure out how to lose a big game than how
to win a big game and I will stand by that until one of them proves me wrong

BC had a winning record before Kent joined the team. Walker is a great coach and recruiter, she took that program over in 2013 and every year has gotten better. She finally has her full recruiting classes and the teams are starting to perform, the 2018 class for next year is stacked. BC is a team that is stealing recruits from UNC,Maryland, Duke etc. I cant wait to see them play Stony Brook this fall. Talking about the lake placid tourney BC went 4-1, with the one loss coming to UNC by 1, WITHOUT ANY PLAYER FROM THE 2017 CLASS. This team has a bright future and It annoys me that there are still people saying otherwise.

You guys really need to stop w the we almost beat the UNC recruits at Lake Placid thing , it means nothing. I think AK is a decent coach and she has done a good job getting some LI kids but honestly that team was very average and just happen to make a run at the NCAA tournament just like Navy. It's not like they played great at the ACC tournament .The thing about AW is she does not have the best rep amongst her players and many are intimidated by her , it's one of those situations when you ask how do you like playing lax at BC the reply is usually "it's okay" type thing.

I think BC is above average, my daughter plays at cuse and They whooped us. The UNC recruits look like they are a little chubby and slow spare a few kids. But ya I agree BC is legit, you just seem like you dont know much about lax, average teams dont just make a run all the way to the end.

Never said the team was average, but the coach is average at best, loads of talent on the team, same can be said for ND, Florida and a few others, plenty of talent, but their coaches can't seem to find a way to win either. Cuse is a perfect example, the beat up BC early in the year and the were beat up by BC later, did Walker suddenly learn how to coach or was it Kent joining the team?

The UNC kids are chubby and slow? Where do you get that from? Ortega, mastroianni, etc?

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

BC players get better while there for 4 years - that says a lot about the coach. Many juniors and seniors really stepped up last year. In fairness they were also one of the highest scoring teams in the NCAA and that is largely about coaching as well - ie scored nearly 20 against Syracuse and USC in the NCAA tournament. Historically they have not gotten the # of top players that other programs have - hard to do tremendously well without great talent. Hard to argue that the 2018-2020 recruiting classes are very solid.

What's everyone opinion about selecting a school that is just starting out as a program? 2018 AZ State, ECU, Hartford, Woffard. Not great academics at any of them but the programs seem motivated to ramp up through commits.

Does anyone know who is joining in 2019?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's everyone opinion about selecting a school that is just starting out as a program? 2018 AZ State, ECU, Hartford, Woffard. Not great academics at any of them but the programs seem motivated to ramp up through commits.

Does anyone know who is joining in 2019?

So go to the Back of the academic website...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

Depends on what your daughter is looking for. If it's playing time, probably a good choice. If it's winning, maybe not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

Exactly ,it's just desperation when you are using playing the UNC recruits at Lake Placid as a measuring stick to determine how good your recruits are .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So sweet

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's everyone opinion about selecting a school that is just starting out as a program? 2018 AZ State, ECU, Hartford, Woffard. Not great academics at any of them but the programs seem motivated to ramp up through commits.

Does anyone know who is joining in 2019?

So go to the Back of the academic website...

That is what is wrong with this site. A guy or woman comes on her and asks a question and you want to discount his question and blow him off. I hope your daughters biggest accomplishment in life is getting into the women's pro league.

My answer to the question would be to pick a school that is a good fit for your daughter. If you can get top tier lacrosse and a good education do it. If you have to choose, take the better education.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on what your daughter is looking for. If it's playing time, probably a good choice. If it's winning, maybe not.

Wrong answer. The right answer is the academics. Lax ends, education does not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So sweet

Ok Mr/Mrs I play to win at everything i do...even playing my 4yr old in checkers.I bet your the clown cheering when your daughter scores the 20th goal in a 20-0 game against very inferior competition.Never said the kids weren't trying to win up in lake placid, but posters are using it as some meaningful barometer, which is pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's everyone opinion about selecting a school that is just starting out as a program? 2018 AZ State, ECU, Hartford, Woffard. Not great academics at any of them but the programs seem motivated to ramp up through commits.

Does anyone know who is joining in 2019?

Tough way to go through life worrying about other peoples opinions. Do what you think is best for your kid.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on what your daughter is looking for. If it's playing time, probably a good choice. If it's winning, maybe not.

Wrong answer. The right answer is the academics. Lax ends, education does not.

Whats the answer if my kid isn't that smart and just wants to play lacrosse? She is already set up with a trust fund, won't have to work a day in her life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on what your daughter is looking for. If it's playing time, probably a good choice. If it's winning, maybe not.

No different than the bottom 75 teams in D1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's everyone opinion about selecting a school that is just starting out as a program? 2018 AZ State, ECU, Hartford, Woffard. Not great academics at any of them but the programs seem motivated to ramp up through commits.

Does anyone know who is joining in 2019?

Tough way to go through life worrying about other peoples opinions. Do what you think is best for your kid.

Maybe someone knows which new schools are joining D1 in 2019 and 2020 seems like a fair question. And since so many schools have been coming online the last 5 years maybe some could offer some insight if their daughter arrived at the school a year in advance of the program launch or year 1?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So sweet

Ok Mr/Mrs I play to win at everything i do...even playing my 4yr old in checkers.I bet your the clown cheering when your daughter scores the 20th goal in a 20-0 game against very inferior competition.Never said the kids weren't trying to win up in lake placid, but posters are using it as some meaningful barometer, which is pathetic.

You are wrong. I stop cheering after the 21st goal. That's the rule of thumb. Yes, you insuated that they were just having fun. Sorry UNC didn't win but they didn't...lol Checkers anyone??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So
sweet

If you are using results at lake placid as a barometer of future success of recruits and the programs they are going to you need a reality check. You can keep trying to hype up the recruits going to your kids future school all you want but most people that have seen the play at lake placid realize what a fool you are .I await you sarcastic witty reply .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

What are you saying? You think UNC have kids that are chubby and slow? Have you ever watched that team play and their commits. I have seen many of their commits play - not all but many. Have you?????

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on what your daughter is looking for. If it's playing time, probably a good choice. If it's winning, maybe not.

Wrong answer. The right answer is the academics. Lax ends, education does not.

No, not the wrong answer - the question was specific to lacrosse, not academics. The poster pretty much said all are even academically - "Not great academics at any of them..."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

What are you saying? You think UNC have kids that are chubby and slow? Have you ever watched that team play and their commits. I have seen many of their commits play - not all but many. Have you?????

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

What are you saying? You think UNC have kids that are chubby and slow? Have you ever watched that team play and their commits. I have seen many of their commits play - not all but many. Have you?????

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So
sweet

If you are using results at lake placid as a barometer of future success of recruits and the programs they are going to you need a reality check. You can keep trying to hype up the recruits going to your kids future school all you want but most people that have seen the play at lake placid realize what a fool you are .I await you sarcastic witty reply .

It is a barometer and thank you for calling me witty!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

What are you saying? You think UNC have kids that are chubby and slow? Have you ever watched that team play and their commits. I have seen many of their commits play - not all but many. Have you?????

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So
sweet

If you are using results at lake placid as a barometer of future success of recruits and the programs they are going to you need a reality check. You can keep trying to hype up the recruits going to your kids future school all you want but most people that have seen the play at lake placid realize what a fool you are .I await you sarcastic witty reply .

It is a barometer and thank you for calling me witty!

Nitwit would be more appropriate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

What are you saying? You think UNC have kids that are chubby and slow? Have you ever watched that team play and their commits. I have seen many of their commits play - not all but many. Have you?????

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the
younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So
sweet

If you are using results at lake placid as a barometer of future success of recruits and the programs they are going to you need a reality check. You can keep trying to hype up the recruits going to your kids future school all you want but most people that have seen the play at lake placid realize what a fool you are .I await you sarcastic witty reply .

It is a barometer and thank you for calling me witty!

Can't argue with stupid so I will let you continue to show your ignorance . Your kid obviously committed to BC , good luck with that . The girls their can't say enough great things about their experience.

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach? (quote)

I don't know what is worse . . . your opinion or your grammar. You successfully used there, their, and they're incorrectly in the same paragraph. A+

Has anyone's daughter committed to a school before the school began play? Was it a positive experience or was the wait to play and then early losses tough to handle?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone's daughter committed to a school before the school began play? Was it a positive experience or was the wait to play and then early losses tough to handle?

My daughter committed to a school, different sport, that joined D1 the year before she joined. It was fine. They didn't suffer losses and began winning their mid-major conference their first year of eligibility. So, positive experience.

If your daughter likes the school (and that should be your first concern) and likes the rest (lax, distance, whatever else she values), then go for it.

Does anyone know when the Nassau power conference teams will be announced? Last couple of years there have been teams moving up and teams tapping out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know when the Nassau power conference teams will be announced? Last couple of years there have been teams moving up and teams tapping out

Suffolk should implement a power conference as well.

Mt Saini
ESM
BPBP
SWR
NP
WI
And a few others.

After the top 2 or 3 teams in each conference the level of play really drops off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No ranked wins? Your not paying attention. I do not have a kid who goes there, or who is committed there. I am a fan of TGs best player ever that goes there and I am very impressed with Kent and the coach. But here are the facts. BC won every single game last year, including beating all ranked top 20 teams, except for #1 Maryland and #2 NC. This includes wins against ranked opponents Navy (x2), Louisville, Virginia, Norte Dame, Syracuse, and USC. And many of those wins prior to Kent. But they are obviously better with her, but they still lost to Maryland with Kent, just as they did without her. But this can be said about any and all teams that lost to Maryland. Where exactly do you see any coaching mis-steps that has you arguing against the BC coach?
My guess is you did not go to BC, probably never been their, probably have never seen there team play. But you must have some odd beef with the place because what else would make you poo-poo they're coach? (quote)

I don't know what is worse . . . your opinion or your grammar. You successfully used there, their, and they're incorrectly in the same paragraph. A+

Purposely misused the three variation of "there" in response to this Jackass post. And it is not an opinion.

Thank you Mr. Walker, but I'm pretty sure that at one time BC had dropped out of the top 20 and didn't have a win against a ranked team. Original poster said BC and Navy had great coaching and I was wondering at what point in the season did BC coach become great? oh after Kent got their...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know when the Nassau power conference teams will be announced? Last couple of years there have been teams moving up and teams tapping out

Suffolk should implement a power conference as well.

Mt Saini
ESM
BPBP
SWR
NP
WI
And a few others.

After the top 2 or 3 teams in each conference the level of play really drops off.

since lacrosse seems to have the poorest sportsmanship and a large percentage go to goal girls regardless of score, the "regular season" power conference does keep many games close. the old way had 2 or 3 competitive games and then the rest were either wins or losses by 15+

Newsday should stop publishing stats. Girls scoring their 10th goal when their team is up by 15 is a freakin joke. bad coaches let these kids run wild. It's a team game share the ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know when the Nassau power conference teams will be announced? Last couple of years there have been teams moving up and teams tapping out

N Suffolk should implement a power conference as well.

Mt Saini
ESM
BPBP
SWR
NP
WI
And a few others.

After the top 2 or 3 teams in each conference the level of play really drops off.

since lacrosse seems to have the poorest sportsmanship and a large percentage go to goal girls regardless of score, the "regular season" power conference does keep many games close. the old way had 2 or 3 competitive games and then the rest were either wins or losses by 15+

Newsday should stop publishing stats. Girls scoring their 10th goal when their team is up by 15 is a freakin joke. bad coaches let these kids run wild. It's a team game share the ball

I know you wont believe, this but even when the competition is really bad, some girls still cant get the ball in the net. Fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know when the Nassau power conference teams will be announced? Last couple of years there have been teams moving up and teams tapping out

N Suffolk should implement a power conference as well.

Mt Saini
ESM
BPBP
SWR
NP
WI
And a few others.

After the top 2 or 3 teams in each conference the level of play really drops off.

since lacrosse seems to have the poorest sportsmanship and a large percentage go to goal girls regardless of score, the "regular season" power conference does keep many games close. the old way had 2 or 3 competitive games and then the rest were either wins or losses by 15+

Newsday should stop publishing stats. Girls scoring their 10th goal when their team is up by 15 is a freakin joke. bad coaches let these kids run wild. It's a team game share the ball

I know you wont believe, this but even when the competition is really bad, some girls still cant get the ball in the net. Fact

Fair, but when you are up by 15, don't you think feeding the girl who cant score is still better than feeding the girl who already has 10?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fair, but when you are up by 15, don't you think feeding the girl who cant score is still better than feeding the girl who already has 10?

Yes, I do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

What are you saying? You think UNC have kids that are chubby and slow? Have you ever watched that team play and their commits. I have seen many of their commits play - not all but many. Have you?????

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe they are speaking about the younger recruits who were up at Lake Placid.

It wasn't just the younger kids at Lake Placid. Good try though.

Can we stop with the Lake Placid results...no coaches,middle of the summer, kids up there having fun...what next, reporting 4v4 indoor results?

You're right everyone played just to have fun. They're all winners. So
sweet

If you are using results at lake placid as a barometer of future success of recruits and the programs they are going to you need a reality check. You can keep trying to hype up the recruits going to your kids future school all you want but most people that have seen the play at lake placid realize what a fool you are .I await you sarcastic witty reply .

It is a barometer and thank you for calling me witty!

What was your barometer saying after Stony Brook put an absolute beat down on your greatest coach in the country with all the superstar recruits . 4 goals in a full games lol

Coach KT brought kid out to Prospect Day at Hofstra college. LOL. Can you say they miss TG? Of course the kid went showing off and dad is still watching from afar. How's another year not being on the road?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know when the Nassau power conference teams will be announced? Last couple of years there have been teams moving up and teams tapping out

N Suffolk should implement a power conference as well.

Mt Saini
ESM
BPBP
SWR
NP
WI
And a few others.

After the top 2 or 3 teams in each conference the level of play really drops off.

since lacrosse seems to have the poorest sportsmanship and a large percentage go to goal girls regardless of score, the "regular season" power conference does keep many games close. the old way had 2 or 3 competitive games and then the rest were either wins or losses by 15+

Newsday should stop publishing stats. Girls scoring their 10th goal when their team is up by 15 is a freakin joke. bad coaches let these kids run wild. It's a team game share the ball

I know you wont believe, this but even when the competition is really bad, some girls still cant get the ball in the net. Fact

Fair, but when you are up by 15, don't you think feeding the girl who cant score is still better than feeding the girl who already has 10?

Where are you getting your stats from. No one girl is scoring 10 in a game (maybe 1 girl did and she's off to UNC) 6 goals in a game is not obnoxious especially if its the 1st 6 goals of the game. Then I agree there should be a lot of passing.

"Where are you getting your stats from. No one girl is scoring 10 in a game (maybe 1 girl did and she's off to UNC) 6 goals in a game is not obnoxious especially if its the 1st 6 goals of the game. Then I agree there should be a lot of passing."

Either you are not paying attention or just being deliberately ignorant. First off the girl off to UNC rarely scored big numbers unless her team needed her to . Second many games are going to be blowout games before they even get started so to have some ballhog score the first 6 goals of that game is obnoxious, shows poor sportsmanship, and also makes the kid a horrible teammate. People know who the stat padders are its not hard to figure out as you will see them get called out on this site all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where are you getting your stats from. No one girl is scoring 10 in a game (maybe 1 girl did and she's off to UNC) 6 goals in a game is not obnoxious especially if its the 1st 6 goals of the game. Then I agree there should be a lot of passing."

Either you are not paying attention or just being deliberately ignorant. First off the girl off to UNC rarely scored big numbers unless her team needed her to . Second many games are going to be blowout games before they even get started so to have some ballhog score the first 6 goals of that game is obnoxious, shows poor sportsmanship, and also makes the kid a horrible teammate. People know who the stat padders are its not hard to figure out as you will see them get called out on this site all the time.

This poster is spot on - The hogs and the parents of the hogs know going in if its going to be a cake walk (especially in Suffolk with no super conference) Those parents are pushing their kids to light it up quick. Shame on the coaches who have been over run by booster clubs, travel club influencers who allow selfish play. These coaches should be starting the game like they are up 10 since they know they can score at will. It makes it hard to root for some of these really good players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone's daughter committed to a school before the school began play? Was it a positive experience or was the wait to play and then early losses tough to handle?

My daughter committed to a school, different sport, that joined D1 the year before she joined. It was fine. They didn't suffer losses and began winning their mid-major conference their first year of eligibility. So, positive experience.

If your daughter likes the school (and that should be your first concern) and likes the rest (lax, distance, whatever else she values), then go for it.

My daughter was a freshman the first year of a D1 program. Great experience. Was a part of setting team traditions, was a 4-year starter, captain and they made it to conference semis every year. It's not all about the BIG TIME lacrosse experience. For her it was about having a "team" experience, getting a great education, and being a part of something really special and new. No regrets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was your barometer saying after Stony Brook put an absolute beat down on your greatest coach in the country with all the superstar recruits . 4 goals in a full games lol

So which is it? Fall ball matters or fall ball doesn't matter? Or does it only matter when it fits your narrative?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone's daughter committed to a school before the school began play? Was it a positive experience or was the wait to play and then early losses tough to handle?

My daughter committed to a school, different sport, that joined D1 the year before she joined. It was fine. They didn't suffer losses and began winning their mid-major conference their first year of eligibility. So, positive experience.

If your daughter likes the school (and that should be your first concern) and likes the rest (lax, distance, whatever else she values), then go for it.

My daughter was a freshman the first year of a D1 program. Great experience. Was a part of setting team traditions, was a 4-year starter, captain and they made it to conference semis every year. It's not all about the BIG TIME lacrosse experience. For her it was about having a "team" experience, getting a great education, and being a part of something really special and new. No regrets.

That's great. Most of our kids are like yours and wont play top 10 lacrosse. Doesn't mean they can't have a great experience

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was your barometer saying after Stony Brook put an absolute beat down on your greatest coach in the country with all the superstar recruits . 4 goals in a full games lol

So which is it? Fall ball matters or fall ball doesn't matter? Or does it only matter when it fits your narrative?

Actually I said recruits some of who are 13 years old playing in lake placid at an end of year summer tournament with no coaching means little in terms of their colleges future success, you obviously now realize what a moron you seem like saying the opposite so now you try to change the narrative. Fall ball for college teams can be indicative of many things depends on how each team plays the games but certainly is a better indicator of how the new players may be than Lake Placid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was your barometer saying after Stony Brook put an absolute beat down on your greatest coach in the country with all the superstar recruits . 4 goals in a full games lol

So which is it? Fall ball matters or fall ball doesn't matter? Or does it only matter when it fits your narrative?

Actually I said recruits some of who are 13 years old playing in lake placid at an end of year summer tournament with no coaching means little in terms of their colleges future success, you obviously now realize what a moron you seem like saying the opposite so now you try to change the narrative. Fall ball for college teams can be indicative of many things depends on how each team plays the games but certainly is a better indicator of how the new players may be than Lake Placid.

Was there with my daughters both teams played starters in both thirty minute periods. SB used much more of its bench than BC. SB was dominant it was 14/15-4 Was pretty neat with both teams having many kids from LI. The last 20 minute period SB played all reserves as my daughters travel coach played weather was great and it is so nice to have great lacrosse so close

Meeting for Nassau isn't until mid November, there the coaches seed 1-51 and conferences are made

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meeting for Nassau isn't until mid November, there the coaches seed 1-51 and conferences are made

can you beg in or out or is it a straight ranking? thanks for the info

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meeting for Nassau isn't until mid November, there the coaches seed 1-51 and conferences are made

can you beg in or out or is it a straight ranking? thanks for the info

It is a process based on who is returning, who graduated, and where coach seeds themselves, then it goes to vote with all the coaches in attendance. Through the years there have been alot of movement, however on a year to year basis only 1-2 teams move up/down. The top of one doesnt change much, and the bottom of conference 5 doesn't change much, but there is movement throughout.

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

ward Melville will have one last yr here to win it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Northport and West Islip will battle it out for the county championship. Both return a lot of talent and both have strong coaching. Talent goes to NP but still a toss up.

Smithtown East and Smithtown West will be competitive but neither has enough depth, talent or coaching to win.

Ward Melville and Riverhead have no shot. Ward Melville has some talent but coaching is terrible. Riverhead is too young, not enough depth and coaching is eh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Wardmelville, Northport are the clear favorites and I think WM finally wins it . The other teams are long shots and not even sure why you mentioned Riverhead unless that is where your kid is from ,the only thing that team is good at is stat padding and getting kids into schools that are above their abilities lax wise. D1 will be a weak division this year only slightly better than D4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Northport and West Islip will battle it out for the county championship. Both return a lot of talent and both have strong coaching. Talent goes to NP but still a toss up.

Smithtown East and Smithtown West will be competitive but neither has enough depth, talent or coaching to win.

Ward Melville and Riverhead have no shot. Ward Melville has some talent but coaching is terrible. Riverhead is too young, not enough depth and coaching is eh.

Give Smithtown East one more year and then they will be real contenders. They have a group of 6 or 7 2021s, all YJ girls (2 middies, 2 attack and 3 defenders), that will be on varsity. Two already were last year, they are excellent players, real standouts. The other 4 or 5 will be this year or by 10th grade. Given them, and the current 11th graders who have two more years.....county and states are in their future.

How about Division 2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Division 2?

ESM

Div 3 will be Sinai , BBP has a chance but coaching favors Sinai.

Div 4 will be Mattituck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Not at all. The current 8th grade is dominant and our girls were already told by someone close to the program that they’ll be starting in the spring. It will be the beginning of a great stretch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Not at all. The current 8th grade is dominant and our girls were already told by someone close to the program that they’ll be starting in the spring. It will be the beginning of a great stretch.

Way set up a target on your back. If any of this is true, you'd be better served keeping your mouth shut. Let the actions speak for themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Not at all. The current 8th grade is dominant and our girls were already told by someone close to the program that they’ll be starting in the spring. It will be the beginning of a great stretch.

Please those 8th graders would not even dominate if they stayed in middle school.

Funny but I would love to see their record come spring now. I will be watching. When someone opens their mouth like that usually the outcome won't be so good.

Yeah, maybe a great stretch starting in a couple years, but I don't care how good they are, if half your starters are 8th graders it spells trouble for this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, maybe a great stretch starting in a couple years, but I don't care how good they are, if half your starters are 8th graders it spells trouble for this year.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. They will be starting THIS spring and they will win. Our guy told us that there’s no way we won’t start and he’s close with the coach. There may be a size issue this year, but you just wait and see. Sayville will be a top club because of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, maybe a great stretch starting in a couple years, but I don't care how good they are, if half your starters are 8th graders it spells trouble for this year.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. They will be starting THIS spring and they will win. Our guy told us that there’s no way we won’t start and he’s close with the coach. There may be a size issue this year, but you just wait and see. Sayville will be a top club because of them.

This is someone who is trying to stir the pot. They have a problem with a parent of one of these girls whom they despise from back when he coached this age at YJ (the Sayville Varsity Coach is now the current YJ Coach at this age and these girls play on his team), and this person probably heard the former coach talking to someone somewhere about his influence with him (Sayville Coach) and are now mocking him and trying create problems in his own town. Typical BOTC yenta stuff.

Ward Melville will be the team to beat this yr. after this season it's over. Much like MC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what you’re talking about. They will be starting THIS spring and they will win. Our guy told us that there’s no way we won’t start and he’s close with the coach. There may be a size issue this year, but you just wait and see. Sayville will be a top club because of them.

This is someone who is trying to stir the pot. They have a problem with a parent of one of these girls whom they despise from back when he coached this age at YJ (the Sayville Varsity Coach is now the current YJ Coach at this age and these girls play on his team), and this person probably heard the former coach talking to someone somewhere about his influence with him (Sayville Coach) and are now mocking him and trying create problems in his own town. Typical BOTC yenta stuff.

Not at all. I appreciate everything that he’s done for us. 100%. Im proud that my daughter is the player she is and grateful that he’s having her brought up to varsity! Go back in your hole jerk!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what you’re talking about. They will be starting THIS spring and they will win. Our guy told us that there’s no way we won’t start and he’s close with the coach. There may be a size issue this year, but you just wait and see. Sayville will be a top club because of them.

This is someone who is trying to stir the pot. They have a problem with a parent of one of these girls whom they despise from back when he coached this age at YJ (the Sayville Varsity Coach is now the current YJ Coach at this age and these girls play on his team), and this person probably heard the former coach talking to someone somewhere about his influence with him (Sayville Coach) and are now mocking him and trying create problems in his own town. Typical BOTC yenta stuff.

Not at all. I appreciate everything that he’s done for us. 100%. Im proud that my daughter is the player she is and grateful that he’s having her brought up to varsity! Go back in your hole jerk!

Who is the person you are talking about? The head coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, maybe a great stretch starting in a couple years, but I don't care how good they are, if half your starters are 8th graders it spells trouble for this year.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. They will be starting THIS spring and they will win. Our guy told us that there’s no way we won’t start and he’s close with the coach. There may be a size issue this year, but you just wait and see. Sayville will be a top club because of them.

When you state, "Our guy told us there's no way WE won't start".....you lose me. You may want to take it down a notch. Sayville will be just fine w/o your predictions for your 13 year old superstars.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what you’re talking about. They will be starting THIS spring and they will win. Our guy told us that there’s no way we won’t start and he’s close with the coach. There may be a size issue this year, but you just wait and see. Sayville will be a top club because of them.

This is someone who is trying to stir the pot. They have a problem with a parent of one of these girls whom they despise from back when he coached this age at YJ (the Sayville Varsity Coach is now the current YJ Coach at this age and these girls play on his team), and this person probably heard the former coach talking to someone somewhere about his influence with him (Sayville Coach) and are now mocking him and trying create problems in his own town. Typical BOTC yenta stuff.

Not at all. I appreciate everything that he’s done for us. 100%. Im proud that my daughter is the player she is and grateful that he’s having her brought up to varsity! Go back in your hole jerk!

Can't argue with stupid and crazy but I'll give it a shot. The guy that you are referring to is CM who used to coach 22 YJ a few years ago with the current Sayville Coach who still coaches the 22 YJ team. Never said anything bad about CM just that some people at YJ didn't like him and likely you and whoever is posting the Sayville brag about the 8th graders are not whom you say who you are and are most likely trying to start trouble for this guy and point out how it appears that he has influence with the current coach whether actual or perceived. Doubtful that any parent would be stupid enough to air on BOTC that they have an inside track for their 8th graders already guaranteed so far from the season and put the coach in such a bad position. So basically you are a nut bag who is trying to create problems where there really isn't one currently.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what you’re talking about. They will be starting THIS spring and they will win. Our guy told us that there’s no way we won’t start and he’s close with the coach. There may be a size issue this year, but you just wait and see. Sayville will be a top club because of them.

This is someone who is trying to stir the pot. They have a problem with a parent of one of these girls whom they despise from back when he coached this age at YJ (the Sayville Varsity Coach is now the current YJ Coach at this age and these girls play on his team), and this person probably heard the former coach talking to someone somewhere about his influence with him (Sayville Coach) and are now mocking him and trying create problems in his own town. Typical BOTC yenta stuff.

Not at all. I appreciate everything that he’s done for us. 100%. Im proud that my daughter is the player she is and grateful that he’s having her brought up to varsity! Go back in your hole jerk!

If he is "having" her brought up to varsity maybe she's really. It the player you think she is. Good players don't need help to be recognized. Their play speaks for itself.

Sayville got dismantled last year by WHB (another young team) in the playoffs and Sayville lost their best player. It will take at least a few years for them to do anything meaningful.

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

The recruiting process shakes out most of the BS. The best kids get offers from the Top college programs. After the dust settles and the best players are off the board the coaches move on to the next tier player.

All the nonsense that goes on with HS and Club teams really doesn't matter. The Top college coaches will identify, recruit and get the majority of the best players.

All the politicking and [lacrosse] kissing and letters to college coaches really will have little to do with what players the top programs recruit.

There is a small group of girls who will "truly" be recruited by the best college programs. The coaching staffs at places like Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Penn State etc... Are the best evaluators of talent out there. (They also happen to be at schools where they can land top talent).

If the offers are not coming from the top programs the player is more than likely not a top tier player (at this time). If you are the schools 9th recruit and there is little to no $$ then again the player is probably not a top tier player.

There is a wide range in talent and athleticism out there and is is not the HS coach or the club coach or the delusional parent who determines where the player falls in the pecking order. It is the player and the college coaches.

[lacrosse] about politics and corruption all you want. When your daughter is on the field playing and the coaches from the top programs identify other players ahead of her it is not because of politics.

We all know what schools get the vast majority of the best players. If the offers don't come from those schools you will know where the player stands. You may not admit it but it is the truth.

There is corruption and politics with HS coaches and Club teams and there are many parents who think their daughter is a top tier kid but in the end the top programs want the best players and that is who they make offers to.

Now , how was that for a rant.

Can't wait to hear how the recruiting process is all rigged as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

So let me get this straight. There’s a varsity coach at Sayville, who coaches an 8th grade Yellow Jackets team. He’s bringing up 5 or 6 girls to varsity? Or promised them they would come up? How is that not a conflict of interest? Haven’t coached been released for that?? Pay me for yellow jackets and I’ll get you on my varsity team?? As an 8th grader?? C’mon. How does a district stand for that? How are the parents not raising [lacrosse]??

If Sayville has a great freshman class, then what do you say about the ESM 2021's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

So let me get this straight. There’s a varsity coach at Sayville, who coaches an 8th grade Yellow Jackets team. He’s bringing up 5 or 6 girls to varsity? Or promised them they would come up? How is that not a conflict of interest? Haven’t coached been released for that?? Pay me for yellow jackets and I’ll get you on my varsity team?? As an 8th grader?? C’mon. How does a district stand for that? How are the parents not raising [lacrosse]??

I'm sure the Sayville public relations firm will be flooding newsday with articles etc like they do with the boys football team. In fact.......this is the start of it here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Sayville has a great freshman class, then what do you say about the ESM 2021's?

Talking about 8th graders at sayville not 9th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

The recruiting process shakes out most of the BS. The best kids get offers from the Top college programs. After the dust settles and the best players are off the board the coaches move on to the next tier player.

All the nonsense that goes on with HS and Club teams really doesn't matter. The Top college coaches will identify, recruit and get the majority of the best players.

All the politicking and [lacrosse] kissing and letters to college coaches really will have little to do with what players the top programs recruit.

There is a small group of girls who will "truly" be recruited by the best college programs. The coaching staffs at places like Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Penn State etc... Are the best evaluators of talent out there. (They also happen to be at schools where they can land top talent).

If the offers are not coming from the top programs the player is more than likely not a top tier player (at this time). If you are the schools 9th recruit and there is little to no $$ then again the player is probably not a top tier player.

There is a wide range in talent and athleticism out there and is is not the HS coach or the club coach or the delusional parent who determines where the player falls in the pecking order. It is the player and the college coaches.

[lacrosse] about politics and corruption all you want. When your daughter is on the field playing and the coaches from the top programs identify other players ahead of her it is not because of politics.

We all know what schools get the vast majority of the best players. If the offers don't come from those schools you will know where the player stands. You may not admit it but it is the truth.

There is corruption and politics with HS coaches and Club teams and there are many parents who think their daughter is a top tier kid but in the end the top programs want the best players and that is who they make offers to.

Now , how was that for a rant.

Can't wait to hear how the recruiting process is all rigged as well.

I agree that the top recruits on the top teams are usually the best players. But even you would agree that the 8th, 9th and sometimes 10th recruits on these teams are influenced by club politics and or parent influence. Those late recruits get little or no money, but the parents can say that their kid is going to a top 10 school. Don't be so naive. It goes on all the time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

The recruiting process shakes out most of the BS. The best kids get offers from the Top college programs. After the dust settles and the best players are off the board the coaches move on to the next tier player.

All the nonsense that goes on with HS and Club teams really doesn't matter. The Top college coaches will identify, recruit and get the majority of the best players.

All the politicking and [lacrosse] kissing and letters to college coaches really will have little to do with what players the top programs recruit.

There is a small group of girls who will "truly" be recruited by the best college programs. The coaching staffs at places like Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Penn State etc... Are the best evaluators of talent out there. (They also happen to be at schools where they can land top talent).

If the offers are not coming from the top programs the player is more than likely not a top tier player (at this time). If you are the schools 9th recruit and there is little to no $$ then again the player is probably not a top tier player.

There is a wide range in talent and athleticism out there and is is not the HS coach or the club coach or the delusional parent who determines where the player falls in the pecking order. It is the player and the college coaches.

[lacrosse] about politics and corruption all you want. When your daughter is on the field playing and the coaches from the top programs identify other players ahead of her it is not because of politics.

We all know what schools get the vast majority of the best players. If the offers don't come from those schools you will know where the player stands. You may not admit it but it is the truth.

There is corruption and politics with HS coaches and Club teams and there are many parents who think their daughter is a top tier kid but in the end the top programs want the best players and that is who they make offers to.

Now , how was that for a rant.

Can't wait to hear how the recruiting process is all rigged as well.

I agree that the top recruits on the top teams are usually the best players. But even you would agree that the 8th, 9th and sometimes 10th recruits on these teams are influenced by club politics and or parent influence. Those late recruits get little or no money, but the parents can say that their kid is going to a top 10 school. Don't be so naive. It goes on all the time

It happens less than you think at the top programs. High School coaches can play politics or manipulate and influence who gets recognition. Club directors can carry kids on their top teams who do not belong. However, all of the BS will not land a kid at the majority of the top college programs. It's just the way it is, the top college programs constantly get the majority of the best players and HS and Club BS has little to do with it. All of the know it all lacrosse parents can chat about how it's all corrupt and political but in the end the college coaches from the top programs identify , recruit and get the best players year in and year out.
If a girl had offers from Maryland, UNC, Duke, Florida, PSU, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Penn, Princeton, bC, Stanford and USC but choose to pass and go elsewhere well I'm sure she is very good but, you get the picture.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

So let me get this straight. There’s a varsity coach at Sayville, who coaches an 8th grade Yellow Jackets team. He’s bringing up 5 or 6 girls to varsity? Or promised them they would come up? How is that not a conflict of interest? Haven’t coached been released for that?? Pay me for yellow jackets and I’ll get you on my varsity team?? As an 8th grader?? C’mon. How does a district stand for that? How are the parents not raising [lacrosse]??

I'm sure the Sayville public relations firm will be flooding newsday with articles etc like they do with the boys football team. In fact.......this is the start of it here.

Football? They've been doing it in all sports for years! I heard from a Sayville parent that they have someone who reaches out to Newsday and that's how it happens. I saw in my district, which doesn't get big coverage, a parent wrote an article about their daughter's very ordinary injury and return, submitted it to Newsday and it got published? WT actual F? I guess if you want coverage, you need to make it easy for Newsday and do the work for them and that will increase your odds of getting published.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Sayville has a great freshman class, then what do you say about the ESM 2021's?

Talking about 8th graders at sayville not 9th

As a parent of an 8th grader at Sayville, I hope they at least have a tryout. My daughter is as good or better than most of those girls, but doesn’t play for the varsity coach’s team. Is that the prerequisite for making varsity??? I can assure you that I’ll be drafting my letter to the AD today. That’s just wrong.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

So let me get this straight. There’s a varsity coach at Sayville, who coaches an 8th grade Yellow Jackets team. He’s bringing up 5 or 6 girls to varsity? Or promised them they would come up? How is that not a conflict of interest? Haven’t coached been released for that?? Pay me for yellow jackets and I’ll get you on my varsity team?? As an 8th grader?? C’mon. How does a district stand for that? How are the parents not raising [lacrosse]??

I'm sure the Sayville public relations firm will be flooding newsday with articles etc like they do with the boys football team. In fact.......this is the start of it here.

Football? They've been doing it in all sports for years! I heard from a Sayville parent that they have someone who reaches out to Newsday and that's how it happens. I saw in my district, which doesn't get big coverage, a parent wrote an article about their daughter's very ordinary injury and return, submitted it to Newsday and it got published? WT actual F? I guess if you want coverage, you need to make it easy for Newsday and do the work for them and that will increase your odds of getting published.

What you read about are the teams that win. You don't see Sayville Lacrosse in there unless they win. Girls lax hasn't had an article since 2013. The football team wins, the other sports win. That's why Newsday covers them. I'm sure parents are the greatest source of accurate information of what goes on in the athletic office. This site hardly classifies as publicity, and certainly not the type you would want. One or two idiots with an agenda getting the others all worked up over falsehood and inuendoes. Just to fit their agenda. That's what this is Tabloid stuff. Let's see what happens come March.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Sayville has a great freshman class, then what do you say about the ESM 2021's?

Talking about 8th graders at sayville not 9th

As a parent of an 8th grader at Sayville, I hope they at least have a tryout. My daughter is as good or better than most of those girls, but doesn’t play for the varsity coach’s team. Is that the prerequisite for making varsity??? I can assure you that I’ll be drafting my letter to the AD today. That’s just wrong.

How is that letter going to start out....
Dear AD, I heard from and anonymous poster on a website that girls are being brought up to varsity and promised starting positions because they play on the varsity coaches travel team. Since this is on the internet it must be true. I demand that my daughter get her starting position given to her now as well. I don't care that she has never played against 16-18 years olds before.

Someone is trying to get this reaction from people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Sayville has a great freshman class, then what do you say about the ESM 2021's?

Talking about 8th graders at sayville not 9th

As a parent of an 8th grader at Sayville, I hope they at least have a tryout. My daughter is as good or better than most of those girls, but doesn’t play for the varsity coach’s team. Is that the prerequisite for making varsity??? I can assure you that I’ll be drafting my letter to the AD today. That’s just wrong.

How is that letter going to start out....
Dear AD, I heard from and anonymous poster on a website that girls are being brought up to varsity and promised starting positions because they play on the varsity coaches travel team. Since this is on the internet it must be true. I demand that my daughter get her starting position given to her now as well. I don't care that she has never played against 16-18 years olds before.

Someone is trying to get this reaction from people.

Actually, there are some loudmouth parents in town that are telling everyone that will listen. Apparently the coach spoke to the parents on the DL and they couldn’t keep their mouths shut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

The recruiting process shakes out most of the BS. The best kids get offers from the Top college programs. After the dust settles and the best players are off the board the coaches move on to the next tier player.

All the nonsense that goes on with HS and Club teams really doesn't matter. The Top college coaches will identify, recruit and get the majority of the best players.

All the politicking and [lacrosse] kissing and letters to college coaches really will have little to do with what players the top programs recruit.

There is a small group of girls who will "truly" be recruited by the best college programs. The coaching staffs at places like Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Penn State etc... Are the best evaluators of talent out there. (They also happen to be at schools where they can land top talent).

If the offers are not coming from the top programs the player is more than likely not a top tier player (at this time). If you are the schools 9th recruit and there is little to no $$ then again the player is probably not a top tier player.

There is a wide range in talent and athleticism out there and is is not the HS coach or the club coach or the delusional parent who determines where the player falls in the pecking order. It is the player and the college coaches.

[lacrosse] about politics and corruption all you want. When your daughter is on the field playing and the coaches from the top programs identify other players ahead of her it is not because of politics.

We all know what schools get the vast majority of the best players. If the offers don't come from those schools you will know where the player stands. You may not admit it but it is the truth.

There is corruption and politics with HS coaches and Club teams and there are many parents who think their daughter is a top tier kid but in the end the top programs want the best players and that is who they make offers to.

Now , how was that for a rant.

Can't wait to hear how the recruiting process is all rigged as well.

I agree that the top recruits on the top teams are usually the best players. But even you would agree that the 8th, 9th and sometimes 10th recruits on these teams are influenced by club politics and or parent influence. Those late recruits get little or no money, but the parents can say that their kid is going to a top 10 school. Don't be so naive. It goes on all the time

It happens less than you think at the top programs. High School coaches can play politics or manipulate and influence who gets recognition. Club directors can carry kids on their top teams who do not belong. However, all of the BS will not land a kid at the majority of the top college programs. It's just the way it is, the top college programs constantly get the majority of the best players and HS and Club BS has little to do with it. All of the know it all lacrosse parents can chat about how it's all corrupt and political but in the end the college coaches from the top programs identify , recruit and get the best players year in and year out.
If a girl had offers from Maryland, UNC, Duke, Florida, PSU, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Penn, Princeton, bC, Stanford and USC but choose to pass and go elsewhere well I'm sure she is very good but, you get the picture.....

If the top clubs can carry extra players, so can the top D1 programs. A little quid pro quo to help get next years top recruits. So naive!! It happens in all walks of life.
...... Sounds like your kid is going to a top program but you need to justify the books scholarship that you settled for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

The recruiting process shakes out most of the BS. The best kids get offers from the Top college programs. After the dust settles and the best players are off the board the coaches move on to the next tier player.

All the nonsense that goes on with HS and Club teams really doesn't matter. The Top college coaches will identify, recruit and get the majority of the best players.

All the politicking and [lacrosse] kissing and letters to college coaches really will have little to do with what players the top programs recruit.

There is a small group of girls who will "truly" be recruited by the best college programs. The coaching staffs at places like Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Penn State etc... Are the best evaluators of talent out there. (They also happen to be at schools where they can land top talent).

If the offers are not coming from the top programs the player is more than likely not a top tier player (at this time). If you are the schools 9th recruit and there is little to no $$ then again the player is probably not a top tier player.

There is a wide range in talent and athleticism out there and is is not the HS coach or the club coach or the delusional parent who determines where the player falls in the pecking order. It is the player and the college coaches.

[lacrosse] about politics and corruption all you want. When your daughter is on the field playing and the coaches from the top programs identify other players ahead of her it is not because of politics.

We all know what schools get the vast majority of the best players. If the offers don't come from those schools you will know where the player stands. You may not admit it but it is the truth.

There is corruption and politics with HS coaches and Club teams and there are many parents who think their daughter is a top tier kid but in the end the top programs want the best players and that is who they make offers to.

Now , how was that for a rant.

Can't wait to hear how the recruiting process is all rigged as well.

I agree that the top recruits on the top teams are usually the best players. But even you would agree that the 8th, 9th and sometimes 10th recruits on these teams are influenced by club politics and or parent influence. Those late recruits get little or no money, but the parents can say that their kid is going to a top 10 school. Don't be so naive. It goes on all the time

It happens less than you think at the top programs. High School coaches can play politics or manipulate and influence who gets recognition. Club directors can carry kids on their top teams who do not belong. However, all of the BS will not land a kid at the majority of the top college programs. It's just the way it is, the top college programs constantly get the majority of the best players and HS and Club BS has little to do with it. All of the know it all lacrosse parents can chat about how it's all corrupt and political but in the end the college coaches from the top programs identify , recruit and get the best players year in and year out.
If a girl had offers from Maryland, UNC, Duke, Florida, PSU, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Penn, Princeton, bC, Stanford and USC but choose to pass and go elsewhere well I'm sure she is very good but, you get the picture.....

If the top clubs can carry extra players, so can the top D1 programs. A little quid pro quo to help get next years top recruits. So naive!! It happens in all walks of life.
...... Sounds like your kid is going to a top program but you need to justify the books scholarship that you settled for.

That is spot on...32 kids on the roster, 16 play...coach is right half the time...The top schools top 3 studs will carry the class(x4)

lots of club lax is based on pay to play, its a big money business. I agree it washes out in college but the club circuit, HS, UA, LI Brine Newsday, All American, All county etc is way too easily manipulated by who you know and who you pay into.

Aw. UNC commit and Ms. Dont play anywhere but show up everywhere reunited at UNC camp today. As expected both girls showed off. Why is it that if parents know their kid is going to show off, let them attend the camp anyways? Let it go and give other kids a chance to shine. Very cowardly. They are not true 2020's!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Aw. UNC commit and Ms. Dont play anywhere but show up everywhere reunited at UNC camp today. As expected both girls showed off. Why is it that if parents know their kid is going to show off, let them attend the camp anyways? Let it go and give other kids a chance to shine. Very cowardly. They are not true 2020's!

Idk who Ms. Dont play anywhere is but the UNC commit didn't show off today. She played well but by no means was she showing others up. You want a chance to shine? burn brighter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Aw. UNC commit and Ms. Dont play anywhere but show up everywhere reunited at UNC camp today. As expected both girls showed off. Why is it that if parents know their kid is going to show off, let them attend the camp anyways? Let it go and give other kids a chance to shine. Very cowardly. They are not true 2020's!

If you can't show off at a camp, then when should you? Even if committed, at that point you are vying for future playing time and your future coaches are watching you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Aw. UNC commit and Ms. Dont play anywhere but show up everywhere reunited at UNC camp today. As expected both girls showed off. Why is it that if parents know their kid is going to show off, let them attend the camp anyways? Let it go and give other kids a chance to shine. Very cowardly. They are not true 2020's!

Idk who Ms. Dont play anywhere is but the UNC commit didn't show off today. She played well but by no means was she showing others up. You want a chance to shine? burn brighter

You guys really obsess over these girls and say they are not 2020's. Just because they may have better skills than your kid, that doesn't mean they aren't the age group they say they are. Get a grip. Tell your kid to hit the pitch back.

The clinic didn't give an opportunity for anyone to really shine, no real gameplay, just stations. Defenders were mixed in with groups and barely could shoot, didn't look like they even asked who was a defender or attacker or a middie when they did some defensive/offensive stations.

Not sure who UNC commit was as no one really stood out, and the girls who has no club (St Anthony) girl was there and I watched her just from reading all the nonsense on here to see if she was any good. All she was is real fast, very small and all one sided stick wise. Looked like she would be easily shut down defensively, and doesn't move the ball to others/no vision. Looked like she doesn't know how to hitch or do anything to move a goalie when she shoots, so I can see her struggling against good goalies and defenses. Probably why the parents keep her away from travel lax because her game doesn't stand with other good players except that she is very fast. And probably can't build chemistry with anyone so they figure going clinic route. Smoke and mirrors way of being recruited. But if her stick hasn't caught up by now, speed won't matter and she is too small to be switched to defense on a high end D1 team. Doesn't matter though UNC is probably done looking at 2020's and starting to focus on 21's now anyway. That's why they ran the clinic at the same time as YJ 2020 and 2019 tryouts. You think they would run it if they still were looking at 2020's CR wouldn't have that.

Very unimpressed with the clinic overall, No one really stood out, you could see who had some skills and but there were a lot of real low level players (a ton of weak players attended) that probably slowed things down a bit.

<quoteThe clinic didn't give an opportunity for anyone to really shine, no real gameplay, just stations. Defenders were mixed in with groups and barely could shoot, didn't look like they even asked who was a defender or attacker or a middie when they did some defensive/offensive stations.

Not sure who UNC commit was as no one really stood out, and the girls who has no club (St Anthony) girl was there and I watched her just from reading all the nonsense on here to see if she was any good. All she was is real fast, very small and all one sided stick wise. Looked like she would be easily shut down defensively, and doesn't move the ball to others/no vision. Looked like she doesn't know how to hitch or do anything to move a goalie when she shoots, so I can see her struggling against good goalies and defenses. Probably why the parents keep her away from travel lax because her game doesn't stand with other good players except that she is very fast. And probably can't build chemistry with anyone so they figure going clinic route. Smoke and mirrors way of being recruited. But if her stick hasn't caught up by now, speed won't matter and she is too small to be switched to defense on a high end D1 team. Doesn't matter though UNC is probably done looking at 2020's and starting to focus on 21's now anyway. That's why they ran the clinic at the same time as YJ 2020 and 2019 tryouts. You think they would run it if they still were looking at 2020's CR wouldn't have that.

Very unimpressed with the clinic overall, No one really stood out, you could see who had some skills and but there were a lot of real low level players (a ton of weak players attended) that probably slowed things down a bit.</quote>

I don't think anyone believes you, I was there with my daughter and saw the total opposite, that kid has an awesome stick much better than even mine, I must admit. By the way you spent all your time watching someone else kids, how did your kid do today? Clinic was blah but overall, there were a few with great talent, Both UNC Commit and St Ants kid showed up and showed out.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Aw. UNC commit and Ms. Dont play anywhere but show up everywhere reunited at UNC camp today. As expected both girls showed off. Why is it that if parents know their kid is going to show off, let them attend the camp anyways? Let it go and give other kids a chance to shine. Very cowardly. They are not true 2020's!

If you can't show off at a camp, then when should you? Even if committed, at that point you are vying for future playing time and your future coaches are watching you.

Exactly! When are kids supposed to show their skills? Being in front the coaches is what matters. I have never seen talented kids get in front of coaches and do nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The clinic didn't give an opportunity for anyone to really shine, no real gameplay, just stations. Defenders were mixed in with groups and barely could shoot, didn't look like they even asked who was a defender or attacker or a middie when they did some defensive/offensive stations.

Not sure who UNC commit was as no one really stood out, and the girls who has no club (St Anthony) girl was there and I watched her just from reading all the nonsense on here to see if she was any good. All she was is real fast, very small and all one sided stick wise. Looked like she would be easily shut down defensively, and doesn't move the ball to others/no vision. Looked like she doesn't know how to hitch or do anything to move a goalie when she shoots, so I can see her struggling against good goalies and defenses. Probably why the parents keep her away from travel lax because her game doesn't stand with other good players except that she is very fast. And probably can't build chemistry with anyone so they figure going clinic route. Smoke and mirrors way of being recruited. But if her stick hasn't caught up by now, speed won't matter and she is too small to be switched to defense on a high end D1 team. Doesn't matter though UNC is probably done looking at 2020's and starting to focus on 21's now anyway. That's why they ran the clinic at the same time as YJ 2020 and 2019 tryouts. You think they would run it if they still were looking at 2020's CR wouldn't have that.

Very unimpressed with the clinic overall, No one really stood out, you could see who had some skills and but there were a lot of real low level players (a ton of weak players attended) that probably slowed things down a bit.

You got all of that from a little 2 hour clinic? I’ve seen that girl and she is very versatile with her stick in both hands. Saying she’s has no vision/ calling her a ball hog is an understatement. She passes to the ball more than shoots it. That’s is not the reason the parents kept her off the road because she was better than almost all of her teammates. Parents are the ones telling your kid to not pass the ball to her so whenever she’s gets the ball she is going to do what she has to do with it. Also. Why would your first thought be to move her to defense? I know why but I won’t say it. Easily shut down by a defender sounds funny. Never seen her get “shut down” by a defender. You sound like a hater, I personally like these people and you bringing the 14 y/o girl down is horrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The clinic didn't give an opportunity for anyone to really shine, no real gameplay, just stations. Defenders were mixed in with groups and barely could shoot, didn't look like they even asked who was a defender or attacker or a middie when they did some defensive/offensive stations.

Not sure who UNC commit was as no one really stood out, and the girls who has no club (St Anthony) girl was there and I watched her just from reading all the nonsense on here to see if she was any good. All she was is real fast, very small and all one sided stick wise. Looked like she would be easily shut down defensively, and doesn't move the ball to others/no vision. Looked like she doesn't know how to hitch or do anything to move a goalie when she shoots, so I can see her struggling against good goalies and defenses. Probably why the parents keep her away from travel lax because her game doesn't stand with other good players except that she is very fast. And probably can't build chemistry with anyone so they figure going clinic route. Smoke and mirrors way of being recruited. But if her stick hasn't caught up by now, speed won't matter and she is too small to be switched to defense on a high end D1 team. Doesn't matter though UNC is probably done looking at 2020's and starting to focus on 21's now anyway. That's why they ran the clinic at the same time as YJ 2020 and 2019 tryouts. You think they would run it if they still were looking at 2020's CR wouldn't have that.

Very unimpressed with the clinic overall, No one really stood out, you could see who had some skills and but there were a lot of real low level players (a ton of weak players attended) that probably slowed things down a bit.

You got all of that from a little 2 hour clinic? I’ve seen that girl and she is very versatile with her stick in both hands. Saying she’s has no vision/ calling her a ball hog is an understatement. She passes to the ball more than shoots it. That’s is not the reason the parents kept her off the road because she was better than almost all of her teammates. Parents are the ones telling your kid to not pass the ball to her so whenever she’s gets the ball she is going to do what she has to do with it. Also. Why would your first thought be to move her to defense? I know why but I won’t say it. Easily shut down by a defender sounds funny. Never seen her get “shut down” by a defender. You sound like a hater, I personally like these people and you bringing the 14 y/o girl down is horrible.

Time to move on, kid can run and that's about it, she was a non-factor on SA JV team last spring and that says all you need to know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The clinic didn't give an opportunity for anyone to really shine, no real gameplay, just stations. Defenders were mixed in with groups and barely could shoot, didn't look like they even asked who was a defender or attacker or a middie when they did some defensive/offensive stations.

Not sure who UNC commit was as no one really stood out, and the girls who has no club (St Anthony) girl was there and I watched her just from reading all the nonsense on here to see if she was any good. All she was is real fast, very small and all one sided stick wise. Looked like she would be easily shut down defensively, and doesn't move the ball to others/no vision. Looked like she doesn't know how to hitch or do anything to move a goalie when she shoots, so I can see her struggling against good goalies and defenses. Probably why the parents keep her away from travel lax because her game doesn't stand with other good players except that she is very fast. And probably can't build chemistry with anyone so they figure going clinic route. Smoke and mirrors way of being recruited. But if her stick hasn't caught up by now, speed won't matter and she is too small to be switched to defense on a high end D1 team. Doesn't matter though UNC is probably done looking at 2020's and starting to focus on 21's now anyway. That's why they ran the clinic at the same time as YJ 2020 and 2019 tryouts. You think they would run it if they still were looking at 2020's CR wouldn't have that.

Very unimpressed with the clinic overall, No one really stood out, you could see who had some skills and but there were a lot of real low level players (a ton of weak players attended) that probably slowed things down a bit.

You got all of that from a little 2 hour clinic? I’ve seen that girl and she is very versatile with her stick in both hands. Saying she’s has no vision/ calling her a ball hog is an understatement. She passes to the ball more than shoots it. That’s is not the reason the parents kept her off the road because she was better than almost all of her teammates. Parents are the ones telling your kid to not pass the ball to her so whenever she’s gets the ball she is going to do what she has to do with it. Also. Why would your first thought be to move her to defense? I know why but I won’t say it. Easily shut down by a defender sounds funny. Never seen her get “shut down” by a defender. You sound like a hater, I personally like these people and you bringing the 14 y/o girl down is horrible.

Time to move on, kid can run and that's about it, she was a non-factor on SA JV team last spring and that says all you need to know

Players change and skills get better. Stop bringing up the past.

LOL. Non-2020’s sounds true!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Sayville has a great freshman class, then what do you say about the ESM 2021's?

The ESM 2021s are a very good class (especially the goalie and defender), only bested by the Smithtown East 21s. That list goes 7 deep, although that 7 doesn't include a goalie so maybe you're right. Two best 21 classes on LI by far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Sayville has a great freshman class, then what do you say about the ESM 2021's?

The ESM 2021s are a very good class (especially the goalie and defender), only bested by the Smithtown East 21s. That list goes 7 deep, although that 7 doesn't include a goalie so maybe you're right. Two best 21 classes on LI by far.

7 Deep? That tagging along way too many. 1 for sure, 2 others reasonable. 7? kool aide

Its starting already the me, me me's. Oh how this team sport has been ruined. So sad

Nobody cheers for anyone but their own kid

Yes....and travel lax has fueled the selfish behavior.....everybody's princess is the future UNC/MD star....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

seriously? girls lacrosse is the most corrupt self serving sport. Who you know, who you pay, etc etc. Especially when most of the talent is so closely grouped together

The recruiting process shakes out most of the BS. The best kids get offers from the Top college programs. After the dust settles and the best players are off the board the coaches move on to the next tier player.

All the nonsense that goes on with HS and Club teams really doesn't matter. The Top college coaches will identify, recruit and get the majority of the best players.

All the politicking and [lacrosse] kissing and letters to college coaches really will have little to do with what players the top programs recruit.

There is a small group of girls who will "truly" be recruited by the best college programs. The coaching staffs at places like Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Penn State etc... Are the best evaluators of talent out there. (They also happen to be at schools where they can land top talent).

If the offers are not coming from the top programs the player is more than likely not a top tier player (at this time). If you are the schools 9th recruit and there is little to no $$ then again the player is probably not a top tier player.

There is a wide range in talent and athleticism out there and is is not the HS coach or the club coach or the delusional parent who determines where the player falls in the pecking order. It is the player and the college coaches.

[lacrosse] about politics and corruption all you want. When your daughter is on the field playing and the coaches from the top programs identify other players ahead of her it is not because of politics.

We all know what schools get the vast majority of the best players. If the offers don't come from those schools you will know where the player stands. You may not admit it but it is the truth.

There is corruption and politics with HS coaches and Club teams and there are many parents who think their daughter is a top tier kid but in the end the top programs want the best players and that is who they make offers to.

Now , how was that for a rant.

Can't wait to hear how the recruiting process is all rigged as well.

I agree that the top recruits on the top teams are usually the best players. But even you would agree that the 8th, 9th and sometimes 10th recruits on these teams are influenced by club politics and or parent influence. Those late recruits get little or no money, but the parents can say that their kid is going to a top 10 school. Don't be so naive. It goes on all the time

It happens less than you think at the top programs. High School coaches can play politics or manipulate and influence who gets recognition. Club directors can carry kids on their top teams who do not belong. However, all of the BS will not land a kid at the majority of the top college programs. It's just the way it is, the top college programs constantly get the majority of the best players and HS and Club BS has little to do with it. All of the know it all lacrosse parents can chat about how it's all corrupt and political but in the end the college coaches from the top programs identify , recruit and get the best players year in and year out.
If a girl had offers from Maryland, UNC, Duke, Florida, PSU, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Penn, Princeton, bC, Stanford and USC but choose to pass and go elsewhere well I'm sure she is very good but, you get the picture.....

You guys are just flat out wrong. Politics play a role every year at many of these top schools, may be in the form of the relationship they have with your travel programs director, a relationship they have with your high school coach, a relationship they have with a relative but make no mistake politics come into play. Believe what you want but rarely are players heavily recruited to all the top schools (they may tell you that), but some schools will tell a kid they are too small, not fast enough, while other in the top school group have the kid as their top pick. Schools like UNC and Md actually can afford to play politics as they know they are taking on average 8 kids per year and know they are going to get 6 or so kids who are complete studs so they can use the other 2 picks however they want if its keeping a big benefactor happy etc so be it. Happens all the time. My kid just happened to be one of those kids that was high on everyones list, was she that much better than kids that had limited options absolutely not, just peaked at the right time, was lucky and benefitted from politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its starting already the me, me me's. Oh how this team sport has been ruined. So sad

Nobody cheers for anyone but their own kid

Hopefully the slow down in recruitment will return some sanity back to the game

Just delay the insanity if we are lucky!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Based on what ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhrad too young and not enough depth. They have improved over the past few years. Hard to tell if the coach could get it done because they have not had the talent to compete with the top teams. I think the next couple of years will be fun at Riverhead.

Northport and West Islip have to be the favorites. Both teams return enough talent and both teams have excellent coaching.

Smithtown East and Smithtown West will be okay . East may be a little stronger but who knows. Coaching is okay but not sure that either team has enough talent to win a county championship this year .

Ward Melville will be tough to beat. They will be athletic and deep but coaching just isn't there.

Northport and West Islip in county finals. ( unless WM has another strong regular seasons and messes with the playoff seedings) if NP and WI meet in the Semi finals one of the Smithtowns or WM might sneak in.

What are the best or best bang for your buck travel programs? My daughter is in 5th and she is asking me to play.

I would say you get the most easy looks by playing for the YJ's but cracking their top team is almost impossible due to politics and pay to play families. The other clubs will give you the same things the YJ's will but you might have to work a little harder at contacting the college coaches. If your daughter can play she will always find a spot but make sure she finds a team that will allow her onto the field and not just take your cash to get a pinny, bumper sticker and other swag all while sitting her on the bench

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say you get the most easy looks by playing for the YJ's but cracking their top team is almost impossible due to politics and pay to play families. The other clubs will give you the same things the YJ's will but you might have to work a little harder at contacting the college coaches. If your daughter can play she will always find a spot but make sure she finds a team that will allow her onto the field and not just take your cash to get a pinny, bumper sticker and other swag all while sitting her on the bench

Also check the team chemistry, both your daughter with potential teammates and parents with whom you will be spending many weekends away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are the best or best bang for your buck travel programs? My daughter is in 5th and she is asking me to play.

Part of it will depend on where you live (East, West, North Shore or South Long Island). YJ has very good teams. It would be hard to make a top team just because the YJ top girls are very good. VERY LARGE club, lots of kids and lots of teams. Thats why people feel it is so political. TG is a good program as well but lack coaching and organization. Alot of the teams just seem to do a lot of things on their own not through TG. They have good players. I know that Liberty has a good program and have very good coaching. A friend of my daughters played there and got much better from attending the clinics they were running last year at the HUB in Syosset - may be a good way to try them out if they run them this winter. The knock on them is that they have a lot of Manhasset kids but I know many kids there arent from that town that play on liberty. Igloo - depends on the age group - very mixed an inconsistent. Elevate - they are ok - a lot of weak kids in many age groups, A lot of parent coaches coaching the teams - seems a lot like PAL and many people cant tolerate the Director at all.

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say you get the most easy looks by playing for the YJ's but cracking their top team is almost impossible due to politics and pay to play families. The other clubs will give you the same things the YJ's will but you might have to work a little harder at contacting the college coaches. If your daughter can play she will always find a spot but make sure she finds a team that will allow her onto the field and not just take your cash to get a pinny, bumper sticker and other swag all while sitting her on the bench

Also check the team chemistry, both your daughter with potential teammates and parents with whom you will be spending many weekends away.

I would also stay away from girls' clubs that are the forgotten stepchildren of boys' programs, IOW any girls' program under the aegis of a boys' program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say you get the most easy looks by playing for the YJ's but cracking their top team is almost impossible due to politics and pay to play families. The other clubs will give you the same things the YJ's will but you might have to work a little harder at contacting the college coaches. If your daughter can play she will always find a spot but make sure she finds a team that will allow her onto the field and not just take your cash to get a pinny, bumper sticker and other swag all while sitting her on the bench

Also check the team chemistry, both your daughter with potential teammates and parents with whom you will be spending many weekends away.

I would also stay away from girls' clubs that are the forgotten stepchildren of boys' programs, IOW any girls' program under the aegis of a boys' program.

Legacy has done a nice job. Runs it separate except how they process payments. Different Director, very hands on guy when it comes to coaching. All of the teams are showing gradual improvement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

Defending County Champions Wantagh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

So let me understand this...some parents organize some fall ball 7v7's for their HS girls and this is a bad thing? Wantagh has been a pretty good team over the years, similar to many of the other HS programs that show up at these fall tournaments and that is a bad thing? Unfortunately Wantagh had a coach for 2 years that left, a new coach last year who is gone and now a new coach this year but these parents are helping and that is a bad thing?

Tell us who you hate and why

Parents have too much say in coaching and too much access through booster clubs and volunteering with summer league and fall ball. My town has run out about 5 coaches until they got someone hand picked. These coaches shouldn't owe anyone anything

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents have too much say in coaching and too much access through booster clubs and volunteering with summer league and fall ball. My town has run out about 5 coaches until they got someone hand picked. These coaches shouldn't owe anyone anything

I wouldn't call what these Wantagh dads are doing is coaching...I would say more like subbing. Wantagh should try and get Shannon Smith to coach the team, so there is no conflict of interest. Quick question, are all the other teams being coached by their hs coaches?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents have too much say in coaching and too much access through booster clubs and volunteering with summer league and fall ball. My town has run out about 5 coaches until they got someone hand picked. These coaches shouldn't owe anyone anything

I wouldn't call what these Wantagh dads are doing is coaching...I would say more like subbing. Wantagh should try and get Shannon Smith to coach the team, so there is no conflict of interest. Quick question, are all the other teams being coached by their hs coaches?

We have a Shannon Smith like Travel Coach in our town for HS and that comes with a ton of conflicts. Who plays for the coaches club in the summer. Who plays for the coaches summer team. Who does privates. Who does camps. Which kids get penalized for showing up with the wrong summer back pack. See the conflicts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Based on what ?

They have the worst parents and that nonsense has trickled down to the kids over the years. The players could not care less about winning as long as they get their stats. You have a parent who posts her kids stats on social media and that they are the record holder for these so called stats even posting the records they have broken ( its Riverhead girls lacrosse those stats are the equivalent of most improved awards at the PAL level). They openly root against each others kids on the sideline then you have the parents who use each other for free training etc just to disparage the person providing the training. Many older players have quit in order to avoid the toxic atmosphere that group creates and is one of the reasons they have been average at best the past several years. As long as you have those players who care more about their stat line than the team winning they will continue to beat up the bad teams and lose to the good teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhead shouldn’t be on the list. Mediocre at best. Also WI is not as strong as past teams. May be a down year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhead shouldn’t be on the list. Mediocre at best. Also WI is not as strong as past teams. May be a down year.

riverhead has some strong players. All yj studs.
West islip has some great talent. Last yr was a rebuilding season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhead shouldn’t be on the list. Mediocre at best. Also WI is not as strong as past teams. May be a down year.

riverhead has some strong players. All yj studs.
West islip has some great talent. Last yr was a rebuilding season

YJ studs? not one riverhead kid is a top 10 player on any YJ team they play on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhead shouldn’t be on the list. Mediocre at best. Also WI is not as strong as past teams. May be a down year.

riverhead has some strong players. All yj studs.
West islip has some great talent. Last yr was a rebuilding season

YJ studs? not one riverhead kid is a top 10 player on any YJ team they play on

actually they have 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
A
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhead shouldn’t be on the list. Mediocre at best. Also WI is not as strong as past teams. May be a down year.

riverhead has some strong players. All yj studs.
West islip has some great talent. Last yr was a rebuilding season

YJ studs? not one riverhead kid is a top 10 player on any YJ team they play on

actually they have 2

Actually, they do not have any.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhead shouldn’t be on the list. Mediocre at best. Also WI is not as strong as past teams. May be a down year.

riverhead has some strong players. All yj studs.
West islip has some great talent. Last yr was a rebuilding season

YJ studs? not one riverhead kid is a top 10 player on any YJ team they play on

actually they have 2

I would normally think this is just someone stirring the pot but I have seen the "greatest in Riverhead history " social media posts so maybe mom should stop posting . Even stranger to me is that mom must have gone back to the start of Riverhead program and added up all the previous players stats to compare to her kids stats . Also interesting is that they have the record for stats that the team does not even keep .

Don't forget the dad that has team practices with his chosen group before big games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
A
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Riverhead should be the 3 or 4

Riverhead shouldn’t be on the list. Mediocre at best. Also WI is not as strong as past teams. May be a down year.

riverhead has some strong players. All yj studs.
West islip has some great talent. Last yr was a rebuilding season

YJ studs? not one riverhead kid is a top 10 player on any YJ team they play on

actually they have 2

Actually, they do not have any.

Maybe 1 and that's pushing it!

Ok if not riverhead tell me what studs sw or se has??? Or any team on the list

Teams win not individuals, go dig up dirt on someone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok if not riverhead tell me what studs sw or se has??? Or any team on the list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams win not individuals, go dig up dirt on someone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok if not riverhead tell me what studs sw or se has??? Or any team on the list

Riverhead,Smithtown East very much the same and both programs will struggle to ever win it all in part because of a toxic environment created in youth lacrosse by daddy coaches who have zero lax IQ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

HUNTINGTON should be on the list. Very strong senior class!

Riverhead beat WI last year they will be strong
WI will be in the running don't kmow who will step up for them still young

Not sure what the problem is with Riverhead or maybe it is some specific people for personal reason??.... MOST just look to keep their heads down and do their thing and never advertise. Value in humility. Plenty have committed to great schools, most do not play for YJ. The fact so much misinformation is out there attests to the fact that MOST lay low and their information is just that... theirs. Those that need to know, know. They rest of you are just making things up. Find something better to do than shredding teams, girls and their families.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the problem is with Riverhead or maybe it is some specific people for personal reason??.... MOST just look to keep their heads down and do their thing and never advertise. Value in humility. Plenty have committed to great schools, most do not play for YJ. The fact so much misinformation is out there attests to the fact that MOST lay low and their information is just that... theirs. Those that need to know, know. They rest of you are just making things up. Find something better to do than shredding teams, girls and their families.

You are obviously from Riverhead and it is also possible that you keep to yourself but you are also being dishonest. What exactly is the misinformation, the team is talented but they do not play as a team. I was on the sideline when we played Riverhead and was actually shocked that the parents are openly critical of players who are not their own. You can try to sweep it under the rug but have heard its a terrible environment with older players picking on younger and have witnessed it both on the sideline and on the field of play with players yelling at one another. Good luck with your season but don't come on this site telling people they are misinformed and then be dishonest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead beat WI last year they will be strong
WI will be in the running don't kmow who will step up for them still young

wi has a great goalie and will run their team through a couple of very talented players the rest of the team is a good support system i think they will be strong. i thing riverbed has more tg than yj? we played them last year. i think they are a young team and are pretty fast. constantly moving. the real question is what will mc be like? and can sw get in the mix

New question/topic re: recruiting and service academies. With the rule changes, has anyone had any experience or know how that affects the situation ? Considering there are so many other variables and a huge commitment outside of lacrosse...thoughts ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

HUNTINGTON should be on the list. Very strong senior class!

Huntington had their shot in 2015 and couldn't get it done, they won't have another group that talented any time soon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't forget the dad that has team practices with his chosen group before big games.

Yes, isn't that special, really helps build team play lol

PLEASE TAKE CAP LOCK OFF!!!!

Already that time of year. After years of not sharing the ball and letting the same girls go to the goal every time they touch the ball the handful of lacrosse upperclassman left have been told by their coach to go try and recruit the volleyball and soccer players for winter practice because we don't have a full roster.

When will this sport, coaches, players and parents learn its a team game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Already that time of year. After years of not sharing the ball and letting the same girls go to the goal every time they touch the ball the handful of lacrosse upperclassman left have been told by their coach to go try and recruit the volleyball and soccer players for winter practice because we don't have a full roster.

When will this sport, coaches, players and parents learn its a team game?

What town

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Already that time of year. After years of not sharing the ball and letting the same girls go to the goal every time they touch the ball the handful of lacrosse upperclassman left have been told by their coach to go try and recruit the volleyball and soccer players for winter practice because we don't have a full roster.

When will this sport, coaches, players and parents learn its a team game?

What town [/quot
The soccer players are going to take the spot of your 10th grader. Sorry pal, another year on jv for you. By the way my daughter who is a soccer player , will play every minute of each game this year ,and she does not even have a lacrosse stick. You wanna bet.For your sake you better hope they don't play. For my sake, I hope she does not play. That god forsaking thing you call a game. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Already that time of year. After years of not sharing the ball and letting the same girls go to the goal every time they touch the ball the handful of lacrosse upperclassman left have been told by their coach to go try and recruit the volleyball and soccer players for winter practice because we don't have a full roster.

When will this sport, coaches, players and parents learn its a team game?

What town [/quot
The soccer players are going to take the spot of your 10th grader. Sorry pal, another year on jv for you. By the way my daughter who is a soccer player , will play every minute of each game this year ,and she does not even have a lacrosse stick. You wanna bet.For your sake you better hope they don't play. For my sake, I hope she does not play. That god forsaking thing you call a game. LOL

Ya...ok....soccer huh. Girls soccer is basically high school kickball. Since you brought up your kids ability......she wont play a minute.

The soccer players play soccer. The lacrosse girls play kickball.But please have your daughter bring an extra lacrosse stick to tryouts.We will return it at the end of the season. Move out of the way the real athletes are coming to play. Your daughter stinks that's why they need the soccer girls. lol

Frankly, I think the basekball players make better lacrosse players. They better understand plays and boxing out.

Then have your daughter come down with the soccer players. Hey buddy bring two extra sticks, we got runners and boxer outers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Already that time of year. After years of not sharing the ball and letting the same girls go to the goal every time they touch the ball the handful of lacrosse upperclassman left have been told by their coach to go try and recruit the volleyball and soccer players for winter practice because we don't have a full roster.

When will this sport, coaches, players and parents learn its a team game?

What town [/quot
The soccer players are going to take the spot of your 10th grader. Sorry pal, another year on jv for you. By the way my daughter who is a soccer player , will play every minute of each game this year ,and she does not even have a lacrosse stick. You wanna bet.For your sake you better hope they don't play. For my sake, I hope she does not play. That god forsaking thing you call a game. LOL

That God forsaking sport is practically paying for my whole daughters tuition at an incredible academic school that she may not have gotten into orherwise and not because she's not intelligent enough but because getting into such a school is highly competitive. So enjoy watching your daughter hit the ball off her head and driving her to a sub par state school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then have your daughter come down with the soccer players. Hey buddy bring two extra sticks, we got runners and boxer outers.

Athletic kids are athletic and many times that's what a coach wants. Go look at players' bios, pretty much all of them are multlisport athletes. Does this threaten you somehow?

The original point was that because of selfish play and coaching that allowed it, sadly many girls have quit lacrosse and now we struggle at the HS level to fill out full school rosters so athletic girls from other sports are asked to pick up a stick for the first time in HS to help out.

To the earlier post about playing in college, yes our handful of lacrosse first players will all play in college but we can't field a team with the half dozen of them even though they only pass to each other, if they pass at all.

This can't be unique to our town.

I would bet if my soccer playing daughter, put a little time and I mean a little, into lacrosse she can play in college.Your daughter could not play soccer in college I bet. She decided on soccer and she also is going d1 and getting very good money(At a private school) Even if it was at a state school who cares. What's the payoff for a bachelors these days. But that window sticker probably gives you movement in your jeans.Enough of this nonsense, just bring two extra sticks to tryouts,one for us and the other for my basketball buddy. A runner and a boxer outer. And it is god forsaken, that's why your numbers are low.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would bet if my soccer playing daughter, put a little time and I mean a little, into lacrosse she can play in college.Your daughter could not play soccer in college I bet. She decided on soccer and she also is going d1 and getting very good money(At a private school) Even if it was at a state school who cares. What's the payoff for a bachelors these days. But that window sticker probably gives you movement in your jeans.Enough of this nonsense, just bring two extra sticks to tryouts,one for us and the other for my basketball buddy. A runner and a boxer outer. And it is god forsaken, that's why your numbers are low.

You're a soccer mom on a lax forum? Yikes!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would bet if my soccer playing daughter, put a little time and I mean a little, into lacrosse she can play in college.Your daughter could not play soccer in college I bet. She decided on soccer and she also is going d1 and getting very good money(At a private school) Even if it was at a state school who cares. What's the payoff for a bachelors these days. But that window sticker probably gives you movement in your jeans.Enough of this nonsense, just bring two extra sticks to tryouts,one for us and the other for my basketball buddy. A runner and a boxer outer. And it is god forsaken, that's why your numbers are low.

Numbers are only low in the towns with weak youth programs and horrible Varsity coaches.If your program relies on recruiting kids to play it's the beginning of the end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would bet if my soccer playing daughter, put a little time and I mean a little, into lacrosse she can play in college.Your daughter could not play soccer in college I bet. She decided on soccer and she also is going d1 and getting very good money(At a private school) Even if it was at a state school who cares. What's the payoff for a bachelors these days. But that window sticker probably gives you movement in your jeans.Enough of this nonsense, just bring two extra sticks to tryouts,one for us and the other for my basketball buddy. A runner and a boxer outer. And it is god forsaken, that's why your numbers are low.

It's totally obvious that you know nothing about lacrosse and have never played any sort of competitive sport beyond your freshman year in high school. I'm not sure what you are basing your opinion on. But, if your kid was that athletic and that much of a soccer stud - you would not be trolling this forum. Soccer has it's benefits, but, I can tell you one thing from watching some of the top Maryland teams - your soccer stud will not be one of the "top dogs" in lacrosse. Stay on the pitch and stop trolling.

She can be a top dog, but that's a conversation we will have after this season. Just bring the sticks. New [lacrosse] and Maryland, try competing against girls from every corner of this great land,and foreign players as well. How many foreign girls play lacrosse.Check out the top soccer schools. Your kid would be at a community college. I have heard long island parents for years tell their kids,the best way to college is lacrosse. Tha'ts because no one plays the game. BIG DOGGGGGGGG.

Soccer mom
Go to "back of the net"

A lot of [lacrosse] and vinegar on this thread
What is the difference of your kid has played for years to hone her skills or is a multi sport stud who just picked up the game
Baller’s ball and the rest will sit in sideline
I know it’s a sore subject on this site
But I saw it this season on our soccer team
4 starters from the last season lost starting spots to younger hungrier better players
One switched positions the other 3 sat the bench for majority of the season

Everyone regardless of sport likes to feel that just because my kid played travel ball since 3rd grade they will be a HS stud
Sorry folks wake up it is just not the case

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of [lacrosse] and vinegar on this thread
What is the difference of your kid has played for years to hone her skills or is a multi sport stud who just picked up the game
Baller’s ball and the rest will sit in sideline
I know it’s a sore subject on this site
But I saw it this season on our soccer team
4 starters from the last season lost starting spots to younger hungrier better players
One switched positions the other 3 sat the bench for majority of the season

Everyone regardless of sport likes to feel that just because my kid played travel ball since 3rd grade they will be a HS stud
Sorry folks wake up it is just not the case

Nobody cares about high school kickball. Stop. Take your slop to back of the net and talk kickball all you want.

Sounds like a small eastern suffolk high school....

My kid plays both and I see certain aspects of her game in both improve due to the other sport

A talented middy in soccer will easily transition into a good lacrosse middy it’s basicly the same up and down filed with defenses be responsiblities and move the ball up the field to the attack ( strikers) to score
A big physical basketball player will make solid attack in lacrosse
Feed her the ball and let her roll off defender to the inside like she is going to the hoop

Not saying the new girls that coaches are asking to come to try outs will be best on the team but they will most certainly be solid contributors to the team - they will make Team better and inevitablely take the spots of some previous starters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like a small eastern suffolk high school....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original point was that because of selfish play and coaching that allowed it, sadly many girls have quit lacrosse and now we struggle at the HS level to fill out full school rosters so athletic girls from other sports are asked to pick up a stick for the first time in HS to help out.

To the earlier post about playing in college, yes our handful of lacrosse first players will all play in college but we can't field a team with the half dozen of them even though they only pass to each other, if they pass at all.

This can't be unique to our town.

When parents encourage their kids to get theirs and those same parents coach at the youth levels, kids get tired of doing endless meaningless shuttles and running to never touch the ball. Hopefully the delay in signings until 11th grade with push off the insanity and reopen the sport back up to the masses. Its a travesty that the sport has been hijacked and kids are quitting just because their longterm dream isn't to be a summer lacrosse club coach or a HS coach making $5k a year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid plays both and I see certain aspects of her game in both improve due to the other sport

A talented middy in soccer will easily transition into a good lacrosse middy it’s basicly the same up and down filed with defenses be responsiblities and move the ball up the field to the attack ( strikers) to score
A big physical basketball player will make solid attack in lacrosse
Feed her the ball and let her roll off defender to the inside like she is going to the hoop

Not saying the new girls that coaches are asking to come to try outs will be best on the team but they will most certainly be solid contributors to the team - they will make Team better and inevitablely take the spots of some previous starters

Lets get serious about this. Any 3 year old that sees a leather, inflated ball on the ground will almost certainly kick it. it is a natural, instinctive thing that everyone does because they can. Anyone can play soccer, it's a low skill sport. To catch a small solid ball with a stick with a net on the end is a skill that takes time to learn, and many "athletic" people can not easily master, if they ever can. Yes soccer, lacrosse, basketball, and hockey have many similar aspects to them. but not every person can learn to skate on ice, or dribble while running, or catch a ball with a stick, but everyone can kick a ball, it takes no special skill. For you to say your daughter will simply show up at a tryout, with no previous exposure to lacrosse or never having tried to catch and throw prior to stepping on the field,and think she will take the spot of even a 5th graders spot on a varsity team shows your ignorance about all sports. though I have no doubt that any lacrosse player can show up at a soccer tryout and, at least make the team, if not start on any H.S. soccer team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid plays both and I see certain aspects of her game in both improve due to the other sport

A talented middy in soccer will easily transition into a good lacrosse middy it’s basicly the same up and down filed with defenses be responsiblities and move the ball up the field to the attack ( strikers) to score
A big physical basketball player will make solid attack in lacrosse
Feed her the ball and let her roll off defender to the inside like she is going to the hoop

Not saying the new girls that coaches are asking to come to try outs will be best on the team but they will most certainly be solid contributors to the team - they will make Team better and inevitablely take the spots of some previous starters

Lets get serious about this. Any 3 year old that sees a leather, inflated ball on the ground will almost certainly kick it. it is a natural, instinctive thing that everyone does because they can. Anyone can play soccer, it's a low skill sport. To catch a small solid ball with a stick with a net on the end is a skill that takes time to learn, and many "athletic" people can not easily master, if they ever can. Yes soccer, lacrosse, basketball, and hockey have many similar aspects to them. but not every person can learn to skate on ice, or dribble while running, or catch a ball with a stick, but everyone can kick a ball, it takes no special skill. For you to say your daughter will simply show up at a tryout, with no previous exposure to lacrosse or never having tried to catch and throw prior to stepping on the field,and think she will take the spot of even a 5th graders spot on a varsity team shows your ignorance about all sports. though I have no doubt that any lacrosse player can show up at a soccer tryout and, at least make the team, if not start on any H.S. soccer team.

Please stop it! the same kids that win all county in soccer and basketball especially on the girls side of the sport are the same ones that win all county in lax. The question is why are rosters so small with so few kids playing?

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

The only way anyone gets better in any sport is to play and touch the ball. What's your take on kids scoring 10 in PAL while everyone clears out for the same kid to go to goal? Do you really think there is only 1 kid that could do that? Wouldn't it be better to move the ball around after all its PAL and no one cares. If the sport had better coaches, more kids would be touching the ball, more kids would be playing and the product would be better from top to bottom

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

The only way anyone gets better in any sport is to play and touch the ball. What's your take on kids scoring 10 in PAL while everyone clears out for the same kid to go to goal? Do you really think there is only 1 kid that could do that? Wouldn't it be better to move the ball around after all its PAL and no one cares. If the sport had better coaches, more kids would be touching the ball, more kids would be playing and the product would be better from top to bottom

Would agree with that. Better coaching would help a lot. Particularly by inspiring passion for the sport. Because, as with anything, the amount of passion, and therefore individual drive, is what ultimately creates success. So better coaching would help. But stick skills aren't developed only during practices and games. They're developed in the backyard and in the basement, playing around with your stick every day.

I also agree with what is implied by your description of the game situation where 1 kid goes to goal all the time. Part of the problem is that at younger ages, there should be much more skill development and less game play. But better coaching would also help.

I always hear people say that stick skills don't matter. Give me the athlete. I say give me both. The better the stick skills at younger ages, the more passing, the better spacing and the better team play there is. So, work on stick skills with your kid/kids. That's what ultimately allows a team to function.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

The only way anyone gets better in any sport is to play and touch the ball. What's your take on kids scoring 10 in PAL while everyone clears out for the same kid to go to goal? Do you really think there is only 1 kid that could do that? Wouldn't it be better to move the ball around after all its PAL and no one cares. If the sport had better coaches, more kids would be touching the ball, more kids would be playing and the product would be better from top to bottom

Would agree with that. Better coaching would help a lot. Particularly by inspiring passion for the sport. Because, as with anything, the amount of passion, and therefore individual drive, is what ultimately creates success. So better coaching would help. But stick skills aren't developed only during practices and games. They're developed in the backyard and in the basement, playing around with your stick every day.

I also agree with what is implied by your description of the game situation where 1 kid goes to goal all the time. Part of the problem is that at younger ages, there should be much more skill development and less game play. But better coaching would also help.

I always hear people say that stick skills don't matter. Give me the athlete. I say give me both. The better the stick skills at younger ages, the more passing, the better spacing and the better team play there is. So, work on stick skills with your kid/kids. That's what ultimately allows a team to function.

Great points. Bad coaching is driving good kids and athletes out of this great game at record numbers and its a shame. The game has really changed for the worse since my oldest went through. People talking about scholarships in 2nd grade and clubs fleecing kids year round when all a 2nd grader needs is a wall. What ever happened to playing 7v7 on smaller fields at the younger ages? I thought that was going to happen? I think It would really help keep more kids involved

Does anyone know if invites to the committed academy wrnt out yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

The only way anyone gets better in any sport is to play and touch the ball. What's your take on kids scoring 10 in PAL while everyone clears out for the same kid to go to goal? Do you really think there is only 1 kid that could do that? Wouldn't it be better to move the ball around after all its PAL and no one cares. If the sport had better coaches, more kids would be touching the ball, more kids would be playing and the product would be better from top to bottom

Would agree with that. Better coaching would help a lot. Particularly by inspiring passion for the sport. Because, as with anything, the amount of passion, and therefore individual drive, is what ultimately creates success. So better coaching would help. But stick skills aren't developed only during practices and games. They're developed in the backyard and in the basement, playing around with your stick every day.

I also agree with what is implied by your description of the game situation where 1 kid goes to goal all the time. Part of the problem is that at younger ages, there should be much more skill development and less game play. But better coaching would also help.

I always hear people say that stick skills don't matter. Give me the athlete. I say give me both. The better the stick skills at younger ages, the more passing, the better spacing and the better team play there is. So, work on stick skills with your kid/kids. That's what ultimately allows a team to function.

Great points. Bad coaching is driving good kids and athletes out of this great game at record numbers and its a shame. The game has really changed for the worse since my oldest went through. People talking about scholarships in 2nd grade and clubs fleecing kids year round when all a 2nd grader needs is a wall. What ever happened to playing 7v7 on smaller fields at the younger ages? I thought that was going to happen? I think It would really help keep more kids involved

I'm confused. Where are the facts to support your notion that kids/athletes are leaving the game in record numbers. More and more colleges are offering girls lacrosse throughout the country. Maybe your idea 7 v 7 seems great to you but again please give us some facts not just your bloviating opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

The only way anyone gets better in any sport is to play and touch the ball. What's your take on kids scoring 10 in PAL while everyone clears out for the same kid to go to goal? Do you really think there is only 1 kid that could do that? Wouldn't it be better to move the ball around after all its PAL and no one cares. If the sport had better coaches, more kids would be touching the ball, more kids would be playing and the product would be better from top to bottom

Would agree with that. Better coaching would help a lot. Particularly by inspiring passion for the sport. Because, as with anything, the amount of passion, and therefore individual drive, is what ultimately creates success. So better coaching would help. But stick skills aren't developed only during practices and games. They're developed in the backyard and in the basement, playing around with your stick every day.

I also agree with what is implied by your description of the game situation where 1 kid goes to goal all the time. Part of the problem is that at younger ages, there should be much more skill development and less game play. But better coaching would also help.

I always hear people say that stick skills don't matter. Give me the athlete. I say give me both. The better the stick skills at younger ages, the more passing, the better spacing and the better team play there is. So, work on stick skills with your kid/kids. That's what ultimately allows a team to function.

Great points. Bad coaching is driving good kids and athletes out of this great game at record numbers and its a shame. The game has really changed for the worse since my oldest went through. People talking about scholarships in 2nd grade and clubs fleecing kids year round when all a 2nd grader needs is a wall. What ever happened to playing 7v7 on smaller fields at the younger ages? I thought that was going to happen? I think It would really help keep more kids involved

I'm confused. Where are the facts to support your notion that kids/athletes are leaving the game in record numbers. More and more colleges are offering girls lacrosse throughout the country. Maybe your idea 7 v 7 seems great to you but again please give us some facts not just your bloviating opinion.

Go to NFHS national database for NY boys participation is down 9% off their highs, girls are off 3% since 2014. LI PAL is down and so is the #1 girls club on LI the YJ's at the younger ages. The game is really just for kids who want to play in college. If you aren't all in you are shunned at a very young age

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

The only way anyone gets better in any sport is to play and touch the ball. What's your take on kids scoring 10 in PAL while everyone clears out for the same kid to go to goal? Do you really think there is only 1 kid that could do that? Wouldn't it be better to move the ball around after all its PAL and no one cares. If the sport had better coaches, more kids would be touching the ball, more kids would be playing and the product would be better from top to bottom

Would agree with that. Better coaching would help a lot. Particularly by inspiring passion for the sport. Because, as with anything, the amount of passion, and therefore individual drive, is what ultimately creates success. So better coaching would help. But stick skills aren't developed only during practices and games. They're developed in the backyard and in the basement, playing around with your stick every day.

I also agree with what is implied by your description of the game situation where 1 kid goes to goal all the time. Part of the problem is that at younger ages, there should be much more skill development and less game play. But better coaching would also help.

I always hear people say that stick skills don't matter. Give me the athlete. I say give me both. The better the stick skills at younger ages, the more passing, the better spacing and the better team play there is. So, work on stick skills with your kid/kids. That's what ultimately allows a team to function.

Great points. Bad coaching is driving good kids and athletes out of this great game at record numbers and its a shame. The game has really changed for the worse since my oldest went through. People talking about scholarships in 2nd grade and clubs fleecing kids year round when all a 2nd grader needs is a wall. What ever happened to playing 7v7 on smaller fields at the younger ages? I thought that was going to happen? I think It would really help keep more kids involved

I'm confused. Where are the facts to support your notion that kids/athletes are leaving the game in record numbers. More and more colleges are offering girls lacrosse throughout the country. Maybe your idea 7 v 7 seems great to you but again please give us some facts not just your bloviating opinion.

Go to NFHS national database for NY boys participation is down 9% off their highs, girls are off 3% since 2014. LI PAL is down and so is the #1 girls club on LI the YJ's at the younger ages. The game is really just for kids who want to play in college. If you aren't all in you are shunned at a very young age

YJ reference is meaningless-cmon really??
PAL reference is meaningless-

NFHS #'s for girls Lax- 2014/2015 --2446 HS Teams---84,785 girls
2015/2016--2572 HS Teams---88,050 girls
2016/2017--2717 HS Teams---93,473 girls

From the NCAA-% of HS girls that play lax in college-12.9% total. 3.8%-Div 1, 2.6%-Div 2 and 6.5%-Div 3.

So are 87% of HS girls wasting their time and being shunned. No, they are participating, being healthy, making friends, etc.
Your view of the landscape is what might be detrimental.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it is really hard to attain great, or even good, stick skills. And the game becomes very difficult without them. There are plenty of great athletes (soccer included) that transition over to lacrosse and have an impact at the high school level, and even at some colleges. But they will play defense or defensive middie. The reason your soccer stud won't get passed the ball very often is because turnovers in lax are a killer. And your soccer stud likely will have terrible stick skills. Lax is harder to sport to master. Fact. That's why there are so many soccer players in comparison. And yes, with those huge numbers, harder to advance. But also a MUCH easier game. And boring as heck as well.

The only way anyone gets better in any sport is to play and touch the ball. What's your take on kids scoring 10 in PAL while everyone clears out for the same kid to go to goal? Do you really think there is only 1 kid that could do that? Wouldn't it be better to move the ball around after all its PAL and no one cares. If the sport had better coaches, more kids would be touching the ball, more kids would be playing and the product would be better from top to bottom

Would agree with that. Better coaching would help a lot. Particularly by inspiring passion for the sport. Because, as with anything, the amount of passion, and therefore individual drive, is what ultimately creates success. So better coaching would help. But stick skills aren't developed only during practices and games. They're developed in the backyard and in the basement, playing around with your stick every day.

I also agree with what is implied by your description of the game situation where 1 kid goes to goal all the time. Part of the problem is that at younger ages, there should be much more skill development and less game play. But better coaching would also help.

I always hear people say that stick skills don't matter. Give me the athlete. I say give me both. The better the stick skills at younger ages, the more passing, the better spacing and the better team play there is. So, work on stick skills with your kid/kids. That's what ultimately allows a team to function.

Great points. Bad coaching is driving good kids and athletes out of this great game at record numbers and its a shame. The game has really changed for the worse since my oldest went through. People talking about scholarships in 2nd grade and clubs fleecing kids year round when all a 2nd grader needs is a wall. What ever happened to playing 7v7 on smaller fields at the younger ages? I thought that was going to happen? I think It would really help keep more kids involved

I'm confused. Where are the facts to support your notion that kids/athletes are leaving the game in record numbers. More and more colleges are offering girls lacrosse throughout the country. Maybe your idea 7 v 7 seems great to you but again please give us some facts not just your bloviating opinion.

Go to NFHS national database for NY boys participation is down 9% off their highs, girls are off 3% since 2014. LI PAL is down and so is the #1 girls club on LI the YJ's at the younger ages. The game is really just for kids who want to play in college. If you aren't all in you are shunned at a very young age

Very true

“From 2001 through 2016, the number of high schools sponsoring boys' and girls' lacrosse increased by 193% and 229%, respectively. Over that period, the number of students participating in lacrosse rose by 162% for boys and 172% for girls. For more detailed information” from NFHS. Kids are not leaving in droves and comparing numbers from 1 year to another is a bad way to look at it as many things can impact those numbers better off looking at trends over multiple years

Anyone traveling the summer circuit can see that there is a shift going on. Less teams at the younger ages at most of the big time clubs. Everything is cyclical. I do think for a while it turned into too much, too expensive, too time consuming and overall too much to fast and it has scared some families away. Anything that keeps it affordable and accessible is good for the sport. But if coaches don't preach to pass at the younger ages its just a waste of time except for the next Shannon who's dad keeps yelling go to goal!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone traveling the summer circuit can see that there is a shift going on. Less teams at the younger ages at most of the big time clubs. Everything is cyclical. I do think for a while it turned into too much, too expensive, too time consuming and overall too much to fast and it has scared some families away. Anything that keeps it affordable and accessible is good for the sport. But if coaches don't preach to pass at the younger ages its just a waste of time except for the next Shannon who's dad keeps yelling go to goal!

Stop......you are sounding like an idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone traveling the summer circuit can see that there is a shift going on. Less teams at the younger ages at most of the big time clubs. Everything is cyclical. I do think for a while it turned into too much, too expensive, too time consuming and overall too much to fast and it has scared some families away. Anything that keeps it affordable and accessible is good for the sport. But if coaches don't preach to pass at the younger ages its just a waste of time except for the next Shannon who's dad keeps yelling go to goal!

Stop......you are sounding like an idiot.

At the younger ages I believe the YJ's are down, TG's are down and Liberty is down. Aren't those the 3 big LI clubs?

not down. other new clubs taking kids away

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not down. other new clubs taking kids away

This way everyone gets to be on an "A" team! Years ago playing travel anything meant something and that has been watered down by the amount of money people can make running all these teams, so the natural progression is that travel recently became meaningless unless you're an "A" team player, which was true to a certain degree, but now that there are a dozen or more "A" teams per grade in any given sport it's no longer the case. clearly they are all watered down and some are downright horrible excuses for "A" teams, but mom and dad can tell everyone that their kid is on the top travel team of whatever sport they play. I've ben to AAU games, travel lax, soccer and baseball games and some of the teams are hard to watch to put it kindly.

No one and I mean no one is turned away in club lacrosse as long as they are willing to pay. When the YJ's went to 4 and 5 teams per age they finally had to take "elite and selective" out of their mission statement

Fall ball is done. Hs fall sports are done. Bring on spring!!! Anyone know when the hs rankings come out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall ball is done. Hs fall sports are done. Bring on spring!!! Anyone know when the hs rankings come out

It's basketball season. You have a few months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall ball is done. Hs fall sports are done. Bring on spring!!! Anyone know when the hs rankings come out

It's basketball season. You have a few months.

Indoor track for my less coordinated girls. That dribbling a ball and running thing is not there forte.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall ball is done. Hs fall sports are done. Bring on spring!!! Anyone know when the hs rankings come out

It's basketball season. You have a few months.

Indoor track for my less coordinated girls. That dribbling a ball and running thing is not there forte.

yes winter track here too. Keep in shape. Basketball is brutal

Selfish play was on full display indoors yesterday. If the coaches can't control it the team will under achieve again this year. The biggest offender graduated but it looks like someone is ready to step right up. The other two are back and unless the coaches address the issue the team will have an early exit from the playoffs again. Sad that some players and parents do not understand that selfish play will always hurt the team. Not in love with the coaches but they are fighting an uphill battle with the players who are being told by their parents to go to goal. Note to delusional parents: selfish play is ugly and it hurts the team. Although you probably blame the coach or some other player the reality is that the TEAM lost last year because of the selfish play of three INDIVIDUALS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfish play was on full display indoors yesterday. If the coaches can't control it the team will under achieve again this year. The biggest offender graduated but it looks like someone is ready to step right up. The other two are back and unless the coaches address the issue the team will have an early exit from the playoffs again. Sad that some players and parents do not understand that selfish play will always hurt the team. Not in love with the coaches but they are fighting an uphill battle with the players who are being told by their parents to go to goal. Note to delusional parents: selfish play is ugly and it hurts the team. Although you probably blame the coach or some other player the reality is that the TEAM lost last year because of the selfish play of three INDIVIDUALS.

What are you talking about??

the posting of stats in newsday should be outlawed. That would stop some of the scoring madness

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the posting of stats in newsday should be outlawed. That would stop some of the scoring madness

Are you going to take the same stand with basketball, football, soccer, field hockey, baseball etc. There is scoring madness (your word)/stat padding in all sports. Stop looking at 1 sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the posting of stats in newsday should be outlawed. That would stop some of the scoring madness

Are you going to take the same stand with basketball, football, soccer, field hockey, baseball etc. There is scoring madness (your word)/stat padding in all sports. Stop looking at 1 sport.

Truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the posting of stats in newsday should be outlawed. That would stop some of the scoring madness

Are you going to take the same stand with basketball, football, soccer, field hockey, baseball etc. There is scoring madness (your word)/stat padding in all sports. Stop looking at 1 sport.

Truth.

Not sure I include baseball so much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfish play was on full display indoors yesterday. If the coaches can't control it the team will under achieve again this year. The biggest offender graduated but it looks like someone is ready to step right up. The other two are back and unless the coaches address the issue the team will have an early exit from the playoffs again. Sad that some players and parents do not understand that selfish play will always hurt the team. Not in love with the coaches but they are fighting an uphill battle with the players who are being told by their parents to go to goal. Note to delusional parents: selfish play is ugly and it hurts the team. Although you probably blame the coach or some other player the reality is that the TEAM lost last year because of the selfish play of three INDIVIDUALS.

What are you talking about??

intriguing. any guesses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfish play was on full display indoors yesterday. If the coaches can't control it the team will under achieve again this year. The biggest offender graduated but it looks like someone is ready to step right up. The other two are back and unless the coaches address the issue the team will have an early exit from the playoffs again. Sad that some players and parents do not understand that selfish play will always hurt the team. Not in love with the coaches but they are fighting an uphill battle with the players who are being told by their parents to go to goal. Note to delusional parents: selfish play is ugly and it hurts the team. Although you probably blame the coach or some other player the reality is that the TEAM lost last year because of the selfish play of three INDIVIDUALS.

What are you talking about??

intriguing. any guesses

What team are you talking about?

Riverhead they all hate each other out there ....just a guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead they all hate each other out there ....just a guess

See I was leaning toward WM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead they all hate each other out there ....just a guess

See I was leaning toward WM

It is someone who plays in a Sunday HS winter league judging by when it was posted and the timing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead they all hate each other out there ....just a guess

See I was leaning toward WM

It is someone who plays in a Sunday HS winter league judging by when it was posted and the timing.

Thanks Detective

Anybody surprised by how few lax players also play basketball.Do you think it is a pretty good indicator of natural athletic ability versus trained lacrosse ability and skill? Are kids just content with running winter track? After all you get just as good of a workout playing BB - it is just a very difficult sport to play without embarrassing yourself ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody surprised by how few lax players also play basketball.Do you think it is a pretty good indicator of natural athletic ability versus trained lacrosse ability and skill? Are kids just content with running winter track? After all you get just as good of a workout playing BB - it is just a very difficult sport to play without embarrassing yourself ...

many play both, but as they get older the seasons can be too close together or they can't do as much lacrosse because they are "in season" for basketball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody surprised by how few lax players also play basketball.Do you think it is a pretty good indicator of natural athletic ability versus trained lacrosse ability and skill? Are kids just content with running winter track? After all you get just as good of a workout playing BB - it is just a very difficult sport to play without embarrassing yourself ...

Not surprised at all, take a look at 2017 newsday commit list 2017...25 bb commits, 130 lax commits, no bb commits going to top 40 schools vs 25 lax commits going to top 10 schools and half them going to top 5 schools...i think they are fine not embarrassing themselves playing bb. Go try and belittle some other sports kids.

You missed the point. The poster probably meant that most good athletes play 2-3 sports in high school. Why do so few play BB as a second or third sport? It is obvious why lax is their #1 sport. Probably because most are not as athletic as people think. Even those on scholarship. That is why college lax coaches love kids that play BB. It is a lot like lax and it is much harder to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You missed the point. The poster probably meant that most good athletes play 2-3 sports in high school. Why do so few play BB as a second or third sport? It is obvious why lax is their #1 sport. Probably because most are not as athletic as people think. Even those on scholarship. That is why college lax coaches love kids that play BB. It is a lot like lax and it is much harder to play.

Have you watched basketball on long island?

Girls lacrosse is the easiest pathway to play a college sport. The numbers aren't even close. Every HS in America plays Soccer, Volleyball, Basketball and Softball. Youth Lacrosse talent still only comes from select states but its growing. Look at college rosters. They are loaded with East coast girls. Nothing from the middle of the country and a little out west. The best lacrosse girls could play any sport they want but mid level lacrosse players wouldn't and couldn't make college rosters in another sport. Don't fool yourselves. Enjoy the ride and the sport for what it is.

D1 Womans Lax has 120 teams
D1 Womens Soccer has 333 teams
D1 womens Basketball has 349 teams

Few things , the guy who comes on a lacrosse website to post about how they are not good athletes is just being ridiculous. Some of the best high school basketball players are high scorers etc because they are big , put them on a lacrosse field and they would be horrendous. Take 99 percent of girls bball players and put them on a gymnastics team and they would be embarrassed and that is arguably the most athletic sport . Point being each sport has great athletes so stop trying to make it out as if girls lax has none .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody surprised by how few lax players also play basketball.Do you think it is a pretty good indicator of natural athletic ability versus trained lacrosse ability and skill? Are kids just content with running winter track? After all you get just as good of a workout playing BB - it is just a very difficult sport to play without embarrassing yourself ...

If you get off the island and take a look around, maybe you would see that to get to the top level of BB you would need to play AAU ball. From what I've seen with family down south - AAU's summer schedule is just as ridiculous as club lacrosse. At some point, by the time they get to high school, the girls will need to decide which sport will be their 'first sport'. You can only be in one place on any given weekend during the summer. I think most lax players tend to gravitate toward indoor track in high school because they are just looking for something that will keep them in shape for the spring season. Depending on the school your daughter goes to - they may not have a prayer of making the basketball team if they do not have the AAU ties.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody surprised by how few lax players also play basketball.Do you think it is a pretty good indicator of natural athletic ability versus trained lacrosse ability and skill? Are kids just content with running winter track? After all you get just as good of a workout playing BB - it is just a very difficult sport to play without embarrassing yourself ...

If you get off the island and take a look around, maybe you would see that to get to the top level of BB you would need to play AAU ball. From what I've seen with family down south - AAU's summer schedule is just as ridiculous as club lacrosse. At some point, by the time they get to high school, the girls will need to decide which sport will be their 'first sport'. You can only be in one place on any given weekend during the summer. I think most lax players tend to gravitate toward indoor track in high school because they are just looking for something that will keep them in shape for the spring season. Depending on the school your daughter goes to - they may not have a prayer of making the basketball team if they do not have the AAU ties.

It also depends on your town and the bball feeder programs that may or may not be available. In my town, there was a local church league but CYO was close to non-existent. My kids all played bball in the local church league, they all played a season or two of CYO and one played a few seasons of AAU. So they had bball backgrounds and enjoyed playing in school although it was none of their #1 sports. If you come from a town with no feeder program, it's not likely a kid with no experience is going to try out or make a bball team. It's a lot easier to walk on to winter track, where all are welcomed even if you are not going to be a big point scorer for the team.

AAU was indeed a big summer, and actually year-round, commitment. I remember being away for close to a week shuttling between AAU and lacrosse tournaments one summer. I tallied the number of times we crossed the Susquehanna. After that, a choice had to be made because that was insanity.

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

are you answering yourself again??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

What about MC?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

What about MC?

these are the top
4 pre season rankings. Idk where mc ended up this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

What about MC?

these are the top
4 pre season rankings. Idk where mc ended up this year

riverhead?

Seriously Riverhead?

Riverhead has the best young talent in the county.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead has the best young talent in the county.

In the country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead has the best young talent in the county.

In the country

In the world

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

I agree with the above, but replace Smithtown West with Smithtown East

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

I agree with the above, but replace Smithtown West with Smithtown East

So you don't agree with the above. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead has the best young talent in the county.

In the country

Delusional

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

I agree with the above, but replace Smithtown West with Smithtown East

So you don't agree with the above. Just sayin'.

Haha! True, I'd like to revise my post, lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

I agree with the above, but replace Smithtown West with Smithtown East

So you don't agree with the above. Just sayin'.

Haha! True, I'd like to revise my post, lol.

The Smithtown's might be a toss up. Which team has the most returning players from last year ? I thought both teams were good but not great last year.

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

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West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

B - ESM
C-Mr. Sinai (with BBP in the mix)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

What about MC?

mc last shot was last year. Same to be said for wm this year. If they don't get it done this season they won't have another chance. Senior class is best they've had. Next yr won't be

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

B - ESM
C-Mr. Sinai (with BBP in the mix)

Agreed here. Same story every year in these brackets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

WI wont utilize all their young talent, he will run the same 12 girls into the ground game after game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

B - ESM
C-Mr. Sinai (with BBP in the mix)

Agreed here. Same story every year in these brackets

B-WH
C-MS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

WI wont utilize all their young talent, he will run the same 12 girls into the ground game after game.

ohhhh you mean he won't take your daughter that you think should have made it last year. Gotcha. I leg a sea what you're saying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

WI wont utilize all their young talent, he will run the same 12 girls into the ground game after game.

Well he has 12 girls that can get the job done so I'm sure they'll be fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

B - ESM
C-Mr. Sinai (with BBP in the mix)

Is there anywhere you can find a listing of what teams are in what divisions for Suffolk? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

B - ESM
C-Mr. Sinai (with BBP in the mix)

Agreed here. Same story every year in these brackets

B-WH
C-MS

What about west bab? I don't think wh is a factor

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

B - ESM
C-Mr. Sinai (with BBP in the mix)

Agreed here. Same story every year in these brackets

B-WH
C-MS

WH is a C school, beside they wouldn’t beat ESM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

WI wont utilize all their young talent, he will run the same 12 girls into the ground game after game.

ohhhh you mean he won't take your daughter that you think should have made it last year. Gotcha. I leg a sea what you're saying

Ohhhh baby....cant wait for the drama at WI this spring.

Coaches ranked B/C teams:
Sinai
ESM
BBP
WH
Matt
WB
RP

After top few many are interchangeable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the predictions for b and c divisions

B - ESM
C-Mr. Sinai (with BBP in the mix)

Agreed here. Same story every year in these brackets

B-WH
C-MS

WH...yeah maybe if Dylan Laube plays on the girl lacrosse team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

WI wont utilize all their young talent, he will run the same 12 girls into the ground game after game.

Well he has 12 girls that can get the job done so I'm sure they'll be fine

We will see this spring. Couldn't get it done with the friends and family plan last year.

No drama I wi. Varsity girls like each other and love their coach. It's the parents of the few that think their kids are wink wink superstars. So they like to stir the pot. I know maybe the girls didn't get it done as you say, but there is only one team per league they can that's the way goes

I love when people think it's an f&f plan whenever their kid doesn't make a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

WI wont utilize all their young talent, he will run the same 12 girls into the ground game after game.

ohhhh you mean he won't take your daughter that you think should have made it last year. Gotcha. I leg a sea what you're saying

Ohhhh baby....cant wait for the drama at WI this spring.

No drama, all the girls and families get along, with
the exception of these [ChillLaxin], who self exiled themselves and run their mouths, thinking it won't get back. You should take your superstars down the street to St Johns.

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers[/quote]

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

[/quote]

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ranked B/C teams:
Sinai
ESM
BBP
WH
Matt
WB
RP

After top few many are interchangeable.

Looks like the coaches got the ranking right. Question....What team[s] not listed that could make some noise? Are there any teams in 'B' or 'C' no team should sleep on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.[/quote]

Not a step behind when kids are multi sport athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.

Not a step behind when kids are multi sport athletes.
[/quote]
Plenty of multi sport athletes coming down one hour a week on Sundays or Monday nights, to keep their stick skills up. Your daughter wont be a step behind, but I am sure her stick won't be where it could be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ranked B/C teams:
Sinai
ESM
BBP
WH
Matt
WB
RP

After top few many are interchangeable.

Looks like the coaches got the ranking right. Question....What team[s] not listed that could make some noise? Are there any teams in 'B' or 'C' no team should sleep on?

After the top 3 ESM BBP and Mt S. anything can happen with about 8-9 different teams, but those three will be on top of their respective Division come late May.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.

Not a step behind when kids are multi sport athletes.
[/quote]
Exactly. And not all coaches want to meet opponents before the season. Some may want to just work on skills and plays

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ranked B/C teams:
Sinai
ESM
BBP
WH
Matt
WB
RP

After top few many are interchangeable.

Looks like the coaches got the ranking right. Question....What team[s] not listed that could make some noise? Are there any teams in 'B' or 'C' no team should sleep on?

After the top 3 ESM BBP and Mt S. anything can happen with about 8-9 different teams, but those three will be on top of their respective Division come late May.

You didn't answer the question. Let's agree on your top [3] teams. You then mention anything can happen with up to [9] different teams. After the top [3] teams Mt Sinai, ESM and BBP, the rankings list just [4] other teams for a total of [7] teams. Who are the 8th and 9th teams? What teams not listed that could make some noise?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ranked B/C teams:
Sinai
ESM
BBP
WH
Matt
WB
RP

After top few many are interchangeable.

Looks like the coaches got the ranking right. Question....What team[s] not listed
that could make some noise? Are there any teams in 'B' or 'C' no team should sleep on?

How did they get it right ,WH ranked above Matt; WB,SWR is ridiculous. They got smoked by WB last time they played ,lost to Matt the past several years ;neither Matt or WB have lost anybody from last year: Not sure they have ever beaten SWR .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Why? The seniors that graduated were not key factors. Young talented team. SE lost their key player. That will be a game changer for them. Riverhead is talented. They have a young group that is very good. Just hear too many inside issues there

It will come down to West Islip and Northport. Coaching plays a major role during the playoffs.

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.

Not a step behind when kids are multi sport athletes.

Exactly. And not all coaches want to meet opponents before the season. Some may want to just work on skills and plays[/quote]

No, not exactly. KK is 7 v 7 and it's all about stick skills and foot speed/quickness, everything a kid should be working on. Oh, and my daughter is playing a winter sport. Indoor is only 1 hour a week, well worth it. So multi-sport athletes are still doing it.

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ranked B/C teams:
Sinai
ESM
BBP
WH
Matt
WB
RP

After top few many are interchangeable.

Looks like the coaches got the ranking right. Question....What team[s] not listed
that could make some noise? Are there any teams in 'B' or 'C' no team should sleep on?

How did they get it right ,WH ranked above Matt; WB,SWR is ridiculous. They got smoked by WB last time they played ,lost to Matt the past several years ;neither Matt or WB have lost anybody from last year: Not sure they have ever beaten SWR .

Only other team you mention outside the [7] teams ranked is SWR. Any other teams? MP, EI, Islip, Sayville, Babylon, Comsewogue, Kings Park, Deep Park? Can any of these teams make playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class

I think you have tried to make this point on various other threads and no one took your bait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.

Not a step behind when kids are multi sport athletes.

Exactly. And not all coaches want to meet opponents before the season. Some may want to just work on skills and plays

No, not exactly. KK is 7 v 7 and it's all about stick skills and foot speed/quickness, everything a kid should be working on. Oh, and my daughter is playing a winter sport. Indoor is only 1 hour a week, well worth it. So multi-sport athletes are still doing it.[/quote]
Just because the team is not doing a winter 7V7 league, doesn't mean that they're not training or working on stick skills. My daughter works twice a week with her varsity team and also does outside training all while running winter track so Her teams fine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.

Not a step behind when kids are multi sport athletes.

Exactly. And not all coaches want to meet opponents before the season. Some may want to just work on skills and plays

No, not exactly. KK is 7 v 7 and it's all about stick skills and foot speed/quickness, everything a kid should be working on. Oh, and my daughter is playing a winter sport. Indoor is only 1 hour a week, well worth it. So multi-sport athletes are still doing it.[/quote]
Just because the team is not doing a winter 7V7 league, doesn't mean that they're not training or working on stick skills. My daughter works twice a week with her varsity team and also does outside training all while running winter track so Her teams fine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class

I think you have tried to make this point on various other threads and no one took your bait.

No issues as long as there are no politics, oh wait this is lacrosse. Good Luck!

Nassau rankings anyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh Dads will be on full exposure this weekend trying to run high school girls lax. Pathetic losers

What is this weekend? Why will the dads be on "full exposure"?

What I think is pathetic is the fact that the Wantagh coach has done nothing. So many town teams are doing fall practices and indoor winter leagues and the training and coaching is being run by their Varsity and their JV coaches. I guess the new hire is out for a pay check only. Mt Sinai, Northport, Farmingdale, Plainedge, the list goes on and on. They are all doing indoor with their Varsity coach. Shame on the Wantagh AD for not supporting her girls lacrosse program. Luckily those girls have a few parents that stepped up, otherwise they would have nothing.

Yep, KK in Brentwood and All-Star in Selden(?) run varisty winter leagues. Great way to keep the stick in their hands. My daughter's Smith East team is at KK facing some great competition (2 Mt Sinai teams, 2 Northport, St A's, etc), doesn't get much better than that. If your team's not doing winter league, you're already a step behind.[/quote]

I think Wantagh is in the KK league. I do not subscribe to the 'step behind' theory but that KK league will help for the spring. A dark and dank facility with tight passing and a rough and tough style of play. This league is a good introduction for the newer varsity girls. By the way, isn't it against the rules for the HS coach to coach in the off season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau rankings anyone?

Manhasset, Garden City, Cold Spring just like every other year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ranked B/C teams:
Sinai
ESM
BBP
WH
Matt
WB
RP

After top few many are interchangeable.

Looks like the coaches got the ranking right. Question....What team[s] not listed that could make some noise? Are there any teams in 'B' or 'C' no team should sleep on?

After the top 3 ESM BBP and Mt S. anything can happen with about 8-9 different teams, but those three will be on top of their respective Division come late May.

You didn't answer the question. Let's agree on your top [3] teams. You then mention anything can happen with up to [9] different teams. After the top [3] teams Mt Sinai, ESM and BBP, the rankings list just [4] other teams for a total of [7] teams. Who are the 8th and 9th teams? What teams not listed that could make some noise?

Sounds like you're waiting to hear your daughter's team's name. Why don't you just say it for us?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class

Please don't start that discussion again - there's a separate thread for it on here from last year. You can find everyone's opinions here:
https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...-tournament-teams-in-town.html#Post12748

After RP is SWR, Sayville and Comsewogue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau rankings anyone?

Manhasset, Garden City, Cold Spring just like every other year

Think your missing a few...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After RP is SWR, Sayville and Comsewogue.

I thought Sayville was going to be a contender with the superstar 8th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After RP is SWR, Sayville and Comsewogue.

I thought Sayville was going to be a contender with the superstar 8th graders.

The whole thing is a joke. Where is Miller Place, 11th? SWR 8th.. Maybe Hampton Bays will have a big year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After RP is SWR, Sayville and Comsewogue.

I thought Sayville was going to be a contender with the superstar 8th graders.

The whole thing is a joke. Where is Miller Place, 11th? SWR 8th.. Maybe Hampton Bays will have a big year.

Maybe explain why it's a joke , if MP is at 11 that sounds about right or maybe a little lower. Who do you think Shoreham should be ranked higher than.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After RP is SWR, Sayville and Comsewogue.

I thought Sayville was going to be a contender with the superstar 8th graders.

The whole thing is a joke. Where is Miller Place, 11th? SWR 8th.. Maybe Hampton Bays will have a big year.

Maybe explain why it's a joke , if MP is at 11 that sounds about right or maybe a little lower. Who do you think Shoreham should be ranked higher than.

First off, there is a drop off after the top couple of teams. Of the North Shore teams I am familiar with, Matt returns a lot of good players, MP should be weaker and their best two seniors are not playing, RP has alot of talent but lost one great talent, and SWR should be good again, but like I said, there is a drop after the top three

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love when people think it's an f&f plan whenever their kid doesn't make a team.

On full display today. They need to look at how they do things. Let the play speak for itself. You can all see who deserves it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love when people think it's an f&f plan whenever their kid doesn't make a team.

On full display today. They need to look at how they do things. Let the play speak for itself. You can all see who deserves it.

pretty sure they won today. And teams are mixed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love when people think it's an f&f plan whenever their kid doesn't make a team.

On full display today. They need to look at how they do things. Let the play speak for itself. You can all see who deserves it.

It's winter. Eval time. And a few kids unable to play. You really need to chill out. You will ruin any chance your kid may have

If it's their 3rd or 4th kid in the program add up how much money those families have put into the clubs bank. Registration, clinics, winter, privates, swag, parties etc etc etc. Many tens of thousands of dollars. You know what, its good business to take care of those families whether you like it or not. All directors are about making CASH and we will all keep begging them to take our money while kissing their big asses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love when people think it's an f&f plan whenever their kid doesn't make a team.

On full display today. They need to look at how they do things. Let the play speak for itself. You can all see who deserves it.

pretty sure they won today. And teams are mixed

What town? What teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love when people think it's an f&f plan whenever their kid doesn't make a team.

On full display today. They need to look at how they do things. Let the play speak for itself. You can all see who deserves it.

One thing you fail to understand. Even if your daughter is the best player which she isn't, the two best players are already on the teamShe may not be coachable. being that parents come along with the kid, my guess is he doesn't want to deal with you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class

The subject has been beaten to death on both the boy's and girl's forums. There are a few different scenarios:

1. HS Coach owns a Club that is open to all players.
2. HS Coach owns a Club that only allows players from their HS Team.
3. HS Coach does not own the Club but coaches for a Club.

All have a conflict of interest since there is a Pay to Play team involved but very little has been done about it. It has not had a negative impact on any of my children but I do believe a conflict exists. That said, Top Tier Club Lacrosse is where it is at for the player who has the ability and wants to compete at the highest level. The level of play and competition far exceed that which is found at the High School Level.

Again, it has all worked out for my children and they have played Club Lacrosse with no pressure from their HS coaches. Do what is best for your child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class

The subject has been beaten to death on both the boy's and girl's forums. There are a few different scenarios:

1. HS Coach owns a Club that is open to all players.
2. HS Coach owns a Club that only allows players from their HS Team.
3. HS Coach does not own the Club but coaches for a Club.

All have a conflict of interest since there is a Pay to Play team involved but very little has been done about it. It has not had a negative impact on any of my children but I do believe a conflict exists. That said, Top Tier Club Lacrosse is where it is at for the player who has the ability and wants to compete at the highest level. The level of play and competition far exceed that which is found at the High School Level.

Again, it has all worked out for my children and they have played Club Lacrosse with no pressure from their HS coaches. Do what is best for your child.

The high school coach owning a club team seems to work out well down in Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love when people think it's an f&f plan whenever their kid doesn't make a team.

On full display today. They need to look at how they do things. Let the play speak for itself. You can all see who deserves it.

pretty sure they won today. And teams are mixed

What town? What teams?

Just went back and tried to follow the thread... I think they are talking about West Islip. Parents are crazy everywhere. They have one of the better coaches and the program has had success. West Islip will be in the mix again this year and could easily win another county championship.

Are these actual preseason rankings? Where can they be found?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have High School pre-season rankings been done yet? I assume so since the schedules are out.

Np
Wm
Wi
Sw

West Islip will be down this year, Riverhead, Smith East should be over them.

Don't think so. It will come down to West Islip and Northport. Two good coaches, neither team is particularly deep but the talent they do have combined with the coaching puts these two teams at the top. Would be very surprised to see any other team win the county championship this year.

My money is on NPT/WM, as long as the WM coaches do not let nepotism get in the way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My money is on NPT/WM, as long as the WM coaches do not let nepotism get in the way.

It will all depend on what happens at the end of the regular season and where these teams are seeded. If wm meets Northport before the counties they will lose again

I agree these are the top 2 teams. But there are 2 - 3 teams that can upset either of them. Smith west has a shot as well as WI. I think WI has an edge and has proven they can hang in there with an average team.

Stop saying WI coach kids win games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My money is on NPT/WM, as long as the WM coaches do not let nepotism get in the way.

It will all depend on what happens at the end of the regular season and where these teams are seeded. If wm meets Northport before the counties they will lose again

Very true. Northport seems to have an edge post season on WM year after year. Think equally matched player wise, comes down to good coaching.

It is always a combination of talent and coaching come playoff time. Even the best coaches will not win if they do not have a sufficient number of athletic girls who have adequate skills. Weak coaches will not win even with supierior athletes and talent. There are some good coaches out there who have not (and may never have) the depth of talent to win. There a some coaches who have had more than enough solid players and they have not been able to win a (County, LI or State) Championship. In recent years WI has been very successful even when they have not had the depth that some other programs have had. Middle country has had a few years with some great players and some depth and they have done well but most would agree that they under achieved to some degree. Northport always seems to be competitive even when the do not have as much depth as some of the other strong programs. Smithtown East and West have had some good teams but not sure they have had enough depth or if their coaching is up to winning a championship. Ward Melville has had plenty of depth but something is definitely amiss and it was very obvious last year. Bay Shore has been off in recent years. Neither Sachem has had enough depth. Riverhead has some young talent so we will see how they make out. Huntington ?

West Islip and Northport coaches are the best in the league and should compete for the county championship. WM has the talent but if history repeats itself they will not be in the mix at the end. One of the Smithtown Teams might upset someone, you never know.

Games are won and lost on the field and as the season goes on coaching becomes more of a factor (especially when teams face each other for the second time).

Good luck to all.

Who is power conference in Nassau? Answer without snide comments.

What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

what teams in Nassau?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

what teams in Nassau?

Farmingdale and Wantaugh (with crazy dad coaches arguing with officials and embarrassing girls).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

what teams in Nassau?

Farmingdale and Wantaugh (with crazy dad coaches arguing with officials and embarrassing girls).

Those crazy Farmingdale dads should be banned from all high school games going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

what teams in Nassau?

Farmingdale and Wantaugh (with crazy dad coaches arguing with officials and embarrassing girls).

Those crazy Farmingdale dads should be banned from all high school games going forward.

It is the Wantaugh dads who are coaching the team, not Farmingdale. They cry that snowflake is being man handled when snowflake is the one who can’t control her stick. Two fools, trying to coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

what teams in Nassau?

Farmingdale and Wantaugh (with crazy dad coaches arguing with officials and embarrassing girls).

Those crazy Farmingdale dads should be banned from all high school games going forward.

It is the Wantaugh dads who are coaching the team, not Farmingdale. They cry that snowflake is being man handled when snowflake is the one who can’t control her stick. Two fools, trying to coach.

Are you the same poster that's been crying about these two fools for two years now? Bad enough cutting on them, now cutting on players? time for you to get your stick and get involved, time to confront these two fools, they are destroying the program. Look at last years results, the kids deserve better. Wontaugh needs you.

Learn how to spell Wantagh then you can pop off about the snowflakes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

what teams in Nassau?

Farmingdale and Wantaugh (with crazy dad coaches arguing with officials and embarrassing girls).

Those crazy Farmingdale dads should be banned from all high school games going forward.

It is the Wantaugh dads who are coaching the team, not Farmingdale. They cry that snowflake is being man handled when snowflake is the one who can’t control her stick. Two fools, trying to coach.

Is the whole town up in arms or just you? Are you the poster that's been crying about these two for the last two years? Now your cutting on the kids? Time for you to grab your stick and get involved, confront these two and run them out...they are destroying the program, look at last years results, horrendous. Wontaugh needs you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7v7 iin a crappy venue and if you don’t do it, you are a step behind. Give us a break!. The teams that are good will always be good. There are 2 Nassau teams that stink now and will stink during spring season

what teams in Nassau?

Farmingdale and Wantaugh (with crazy dad coaches arguing with officials and embarrassing girls).

Those crazy Farmingdale dads should be banned from all high school games going forward.

It is the Wantaugh dads who are coaching the team, not Farmingdale. They cry that snowflake is being man handled when snowflake is the one who can’t control her stick. Two fools, trying to coach.

First off if you are going to be so obsessed with a town please learn to spell it. No 'U' in Wantagh. Sadly you have been crazed about this team for quite a while. This HS is on their third head coach in the past 4 years. These crybaby coaches have entered them in fall 7v7's, indoor leagues...etc. This seems to help prepare them for the upcoming spring season. They won the county championship last year. I can tell you from first hand experience I do not see any crying from the coaches or the players.

It sounds like you have a specific incident based upon your comments. They play in the Brentwood indoor league on Monday nights. If you are a disgruntled Wantagh parent please stop by and I am sure they would love to discuss your concerns. If you are a parent from another team, best of luck to you

Or as the house-wives in that town pronounce it, Wantawww...

How about power conference information?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Or as the house-wives in that town pronounce it, Wantawww...

What does that mean????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about power conference information?

Look on section 8 website if it's anywhere that's the place.

Nassau
Conference 1: GC, Pequa, Wantagh, LB, Manhasset, CSH, North Shore, syosset, port, Oceanside
Conference 2: Southside, farmingdale, plainedge, Locust valley, Lynbrook, Seaford, carle place, oyster bay, Calhoun, division

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

The rules are going to hurt stony brook but they are playing a bunch of top 25 teams USC Stanford, NW, Towson, Hopkins Cornell Penn State Albany. I think we will all continue to see that after the top handful of teams the sports talent level falls off a cliff. If you had to wager would you take Maryland and UNC against the rest of the field? I would

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Let me guess, you're from Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Let me guess, you're from Maryland.

Loyola, Towson and Hopkins should all be higher ranked

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Let me guess, you're from Maryland.

Loyola, Towson and Hopkins should all be higher ranked

Hahaha, exactly. Where's is UMBC while we are at it, typical MD thinking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

The rules are going to hurt stony brook but they are playing a bunch of top 25 teams USC Stanford, NW, Towson, Hopkins Cornell Penn State Albany. I think we will all continue to see that after the top handful of teams the sports talent level falls off a cliff. If you had to wager would you take Maryland and UNC against the rest of the field? I would

I wouldn't wager against Maryland or UNC winning again, but I'd root for them to lose. My best bet for another team to win it all would be from this group: USC, Northwestern, Penn St, Florida (although Florida always seems to get out coached)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

SB doesn't have a cupcake schedule this year, 8 teams ranked on this list, as opposed to 10 for Maryland. Sb is playing its toughest schedule in program history. Could probably be a little tougher, but definitely improved from last few seasons.

Ranking are just that, meant for conjecture and discussion. Means little else otherwise. Injuries, Freshman development etc, are unknown factors that cannot be factored into pre-season rankings.

it would be good for the sport for a heavy underdog to win over a UNC and Maryland. Game is stale and needs some excitement in the top 20

I cant be only one getting inundated with College Camp info everyday...Holy lax sticks Batman..unreal!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

You are dead wrong about stony brook my daughter’s team played them in the fall they are awesome and are definitely deserving of #2 and may win it all. Penn State who was in the same tournament is frankly overranked at 6.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Let me guess, you're from Maryland.

Loyola, Towson and Hopkins should all be higher ranked

That's pretty funny, maybe its time for them to start actually recruiting and running their programs the way the rest of the top teams do. Loyola does nothing all year, 1-2 camps and gets the third tier Maryland players, Hopkins and Towson not much better - this trio has all been living off their reputations for the last several years and they know they have jobs for life so they don't seem to care all that much about getting better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

You are dead wrong about stony brook my daughter’s team played them in the fall they are awesome and are definitely deserving of #2 and may win it all. Penn State who was in the same tournament is frankly overranked at 6.

The only reason 21-25 are on the list is reputation, these list's typically only list top 20 teams, but heaven forbid lax royalty didn't get a mention

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

You are dead wrong about stony brook my daughter’s team played them in the fall they are awesome and are definitely deserving of #2 and may win it all. Penn State who was in the same tournament is frankly overranked at 6.

The only reason 21-25 are on the list is reputation, these list's typically only list top 20 teams, but heaven forbid lax royalty didn't get a mention

I didn't look too closely but you are right. They went with the traditional names because they make good press in the lax world

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

You are dead wrong about stony brook my daughter’s team played them in the fall they are awesome and are definitely deserving of #2 and may win it all. Penn State who was in the same tournament is frankly overranked at 6.

Sorry but Stony Brook has an excellent coach who knows how to win but are the least athletic top team out there. Compared to the other top teams their midfield will struggle and do not think their freshman class is going to contribute much. I think they have a chance to beat any team but to win it all they are going to have to win too many difficult games in a row. Until someone beats MD they are the top but if you are looking for a non UNC -MD team I would go with Florida .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

You are dead wrong about stony brook my daughter’s team played them in the fall they are awesome and are definitely deserving of #2 and may win it all. Penn State who was in the same tournament is frankly overranked at 6.

Sorry but Stony Brook has an excellent coach who knows how to win but are the least athletic top team out there. Compared to the other top teams their midfield will struggle and do not think their freshman class is going to contribute much. I think they have a chance to beat any team but to win it all they are going to have to win too many difficult games in a row. Until someone beats MD they are the top but if you are looking for a non UNC -MD team I would go with Florida .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Kent IS playing this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

You are dead wrong about stony brook my daughter’s team played them in the fall they are awesome and are definitely deserving of #2 and may win it all. Penn State who was in the same tournament is frankly overranked at 6.

Sorry but Stony Brook has an excellent coach who knows how to win but are the least athletic top team out there. Compared to the other top teams their midfield will struggle and do not think their freshman class is going to contribute much. I think they have a chance to beat any team but to win it all they are going to have to win too many difficult games in a row. Until someone beats MD they are the top but if you are looking for a non UNC -MD team I would go with Florida .

Stony Brook has come on strong the past several years and will be very good again this year. They have improved their strength of schedule the past couple of years and I guess bumped it up even more this year. Last year they had some strong programs on the schedule but where and when the games were played was very favorable for them. Good Coach and some great players but #2 might be a little high (but not much).

MD and UNC will be very good (real surprise) Florida and Boston College should contend for a final 4 spot as well. Penn State might slip a bit and not sure Navy will make it again. Syracuse, Northwestern and Princeton also have potential to earn a spot in the final 4.

My Top 10

1 - Maryland
2 - North Carolina
3 - Florida
4 - Boston College
5 - Stony Brook
6 - Southern Cal
7 - Syracuse
8 - Northwestern
9 - Princeton
10 - Penn State

Depending on how the seedings work out I think we will see Stony Brook, Florida and Maryland in the final 4. Would like to seeSouthern Cal make it as well.

USC is simply just not deep enough to win enough hard games in a row to make the finals . Good coaching and a team that can beat anyone but also a team that can lose to anyone . Any injury to a starter is too much to overcome while the top programs go with next player up and don't skip a beat .They are really just a lesser Stony Brook .

Seems to me this college chat should be on the college thread, not this HS thread. Go Stony Brook!!

BC will slip this year. Kenzie Kent is red-shirting. Team should bounce back the following year with a strong 2018 recruiting class and Appuzzo and Kent as seniors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Women's NCAA preseason:

1. Maryland
2. Stony Brook
3. North Carolina
4. Boston College
5. Florida
6. Penn State
7. Navy
8. USC
9. Syracuse
10. Northwestern
11. Princeton
12. Penn
13. Virginia
14. Cornell
15. UMass
16. Notre Dame
17. James Madison
18. Albany
19. Colorado
20. Elon
21. Duke
22. Stanford
23. Loyola
24. Towson
25. John Hopkins

My initial thoughts ... BC too high. They were an ok team until Kenzie Kent joined midseason. She is not playing this year. BC is no better than 10 without her. SB is not the #2 team in the country, particularly w the 3-second rule back to a major foul. Will be hard to know with their cream puff schedule, but they r more like top 8. Navy caught lightening in a bottle last year. Great for them. Not a top ten team.

Kent IS playing this year

My understanding, like the poster above, is that Kent is redshirtting lacrosse this year. According to a tweet by IL just yesterday though, It may still be up in the air.

I thought this was a hs thread

Hockey is her #1 sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hockey is her #1 sport.

Who cares?

Only 5 of the 25 teams have any shot at winning a national championship.

Two of the black holes were MIA last game and what a difference it made. The girls actually played together and looked like a team. It was nice to see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two of the black holes were MIA last game and what a difference it made. The girls actually played together and looked like a team. It was nice to see.

If you are going to post nonsense can you at least tell us which team you are babbling about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 5 of the 25 teams have any shot at winning a national championship.

and they would be...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 5 of the 25 teams have any shot at winning a national championship.

and they would be...

That’s a silly statement given they way last year played out and with a lot of frosh playing major roles this year. I saw a team not on the list play 2 of these top 10 teams pretty even at a tourney this fall. Doesn’t mean they even deserve to be top 25, but it’s more open than 5. It’s probably more than 10 depending on injuries.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 5 of the 25 teams have any shot at winning a national championship.

and they would be...

That’s a silly statement given they way last year played out and with a lot of frosh playing major roles this year. I saw a team not on the list play 2 of these top 10 teams pretty even at a tourney this fall. Doesn’t mean they even deserve to be top 25, but it’s more open than 5. It’s probably more than 10 depending on injuries.

No chance .I would easily take UNC and Maryland against the field .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 5 of the 25 teams have any shot at winning a national championship.

and they would be...

That’s a silly statement given they way last year played out and with a lot of frosh playing major roles this year. I saw a team not on the list play 2 of these top 10 teams pretty even at a tourney this fall. Doesn’t mean they even deserve to be top 25, but it’s more open than 5. It’s probably more than 10 depending on injuries.

No chance .I would easily take UNC and Maryland against the field .

Unfortunately I have to agree with this. If they stay healthy, I think Northwestern has an outside chance. They have some firepower upfront w Lasota, Stroup, Kinna (3 Canadian National Team players) and Fredericks. Fredericks on the draw is a magician. Nesselbush is back from knee injury. They are strong on the back end with Quinn, Mueller & Copeland. It may come down to whether they get consistent play out Weiss in goal. But if they can avoid major injuries, which have crushed them the last few years, they have a punchers chance.

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 5 of the 25 teams have any shot at winning a national championship.

and they would be...

That’s a silly statement given they way last year played out and with a lot of frosh playing major roles this year. I saw a team not on the list play 2 of these top 10 teams pretty even at a tourney this fall. Doesn’t mean they even deserve to be top 25, but it’s more open than 5. It’s probably more than 10 depending on injuries.

No chance .I would easily take UNC and Maryland against the field .

Unfortunately I have to agree with this. If they stay healthy, I think Northwestern has an outside chance. They have some firepower upfront w Lasota, Stroup, Kinna (3 Canadian National Team players) and Fredericks. Fredericks on the draw is a magician. Nesselbush is back from knee injury. They are strong on the back end with Quinn, Mueller & Copeland. It may come down to whether they get consistent play out Weiss in goal. But if they can avoid major injuries, which have crushed them the last few years, they have a punchers chance.

I would say that there are a few more teams that could make it to the Final Four. Take a look at last year:

These games were all very close and could have gone either way

Stony Brook - Maryland
Princeton - Penn State
Penn - Navy
North Carolina - Navy

Navy, a team that could have been knocked out by Penn in the first round could have easily been in the finals.

This year the following have a legit chance to get to the Final Four

Maryland
North Carolina
Florida
Northwestern
Stony Brook
Boston College
Princeton
Syracuse
Penn State
USC
Penn
Navy

Also, Duke is ranked pretty low. They might be able to surprise some teams.

Seeding is very important. Would Navy have made it to the Final Four if they had played Maryland in round 1?

We all know who the favorites are but there are others who can make it to the Final Four.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 5 of the 25 teams have any shot at winning a national championship.

and they would be...

That’s a silly statement given they way last year played out and with a lot of frosh playing major roles this year. I saw a team not on the list play 2 of these top 10 teams pretty even at a tourney this fall. Doesn’t mean they even deserve to be top 25, but it’s more open than 5. It’s probably more than 10 depending on injuries.

No chance .I would easily take UNC and Maryland against the field .

Unfortunately I have to agree with this. If they stay healthy, I think Northwestern has an outside chance. They have some firepower upfront w Lasota, Stroup, Kinna (3 Canadian National Team players) and Fredericks. Fredericks on the draw is a magician. Nesselbush is back from knee injury. They are strong on the back end with Quinn, Mueller & Copeland. It may come down to whether they get consistent play out Weiss in goal. But if they can avoid major injuries, which have crushed them the last few years, they have a punchers chance.

I would say that there are a few more teams that could make it to the Final Four. Take a look at last year:

These games were all very close and could have gone either way

Stony Brook - Maryland
Princeton - Penn State
Penn - Navy
North Carolina - Navy

Navy, a team that could have been knocked out by Penn in the first round could have easily been in the finals.

This year the following have a legit chance to get to the Final Four

Maryland
North Carolina
Florida
Northwestern
Stony Brook
Boston College
Princeton
Syracuse
Penn State
USC
Penn
Navy

Also, Duke is ranked pretty low. They might be able to surprise some teams.

Seeding is very important. Would Navy have made it to the Final Four if they had played Maryland in round 1?

We all know who the favorites are but there are others who can make it to the Final Four.

Exactly. FYI Lehigh was up 9-8 on Navy with 5 to go in Patriot league semis and a great ending started Navy’s run. These girls are a lot closer than you think and I’ve seen first hand especially this fall at my daughter’s tournaments. 10 teams have legit shots. Don’t discount home field and SB looks real determined. PSU is Down is down tad my eyes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

SB has zero chance of winning a national championship. No more 30+ 3-second calls per game that actually help your D. SB will lose in round of 8... again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

SB has zero chance of winning a national championship. No more 30+ 3-second calls per game that actually help your D. SB will lose in round of 8... again

HMMM.....so you put them in the round of 8 but say they have "zero" chance of winning the NC. That doesn't make sense but, OK, if it makes you happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

SB has zero chance of winning a national championship. No more 30+ 3-second calls per game that actually help your D. SB will lose in round of 8... again

HMMM.....so you put them in the round of 8 but say they have "zero" chance of winning the NC. That doesn't
make sense but, OK, if it makes you happy.

They apparently don't think they can win 3 games in a row against the best teams in the country, actually sounds pretty reasonable .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

SB has zero chance of winning a national championship. No more 30+ 3-second calls per game that actually help your D. SB will lose in round of 8... again

HMMM.....so you put them in the round of 8 but say they have "zero" chance of winning the NC. That doesn't
make sense but, OK, if it makes you happy.

They apparently don't think they can win 3 games in a row against the best teams in the country, actually sounds pretty reasonable .

That is correct. As you are likely aware, only three teams have won it since 2004. The final 8 means you are good but not good enough. That is SB. Good, but not good enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

SB has zero chance of winning a national championship. No more 30+ 3-second calls per game that actually help your D. SB will lose in round of 8... again

HMMM.....so you put them in the round of 8 but say they have "zero" chance of winning the NC. That doesn't
make sense but, OK, if it makes you happy.

They apparently don't think they can win 3 games in a row against the best teams in the country, actually sounds pretty reasonable .

That is correct. As you are likely aware, only three teams have won it since 2004. The final 8 means you are good but not good enough. That is SB. Good, but not good enough.[
Daughter plays for a rival but SB is absolutely loaded and returns most starters. They will be very very good. To say they have no chance discounts (your agenda) your argument because they clearly are good enough. Hope I'm wrong here but they will be a tough out

Give me UNC and Maryland again and you can have everyone else. But I will say this, the rule bender out on LI might be the best coach out there with what he has. He made D2 Adelphi a national powerhouse and did the same thing at Stony Brook almost overnight. He coaches to the kids strengths and is always on the legal/illegal rule line. he always gets more with less at Stony Brook. There are some years I think I could coach UNC and Maryland and win it all. They have that much talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He ... is always on the legal/illegal rule line.

No wonder he's at the end of the YJ pipeline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

SB has zero chance of winning a national championship. No more 30+ 3-second calls per game that actually help your D. SB will lose in round of 8... again

HMMM.....so you put them in the round of 8 but say they have "zero" chance of winning the NC. That doesn't
make sense but, OK, if it makes you happy.

They apparently don't think they can win 3 games in a row against the best teams in the country, actually sounds pretty reasonable .

Yes, you are correct.......but words matter. I agree its pretty reasonable to state they may not be able to win 3 in a row against the increased competition. But "zero" chance is a stupid statement. It will all play out starting in Feb.

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD
UNC
SB
FL
Penn State

SB has zero chance of winning a national championship. No more 30+ 3-second calls per game that actually help your D. SB will lose in round of 8... again

HMMM.....so you put them in the round of 8 but say they have "zero" chance of winning the NC. That doesn't
make sense but, OK, if it makes you happy.

They apparently don't think they can win 3 games in a row against the best teams in the country, actually sounds pretty reasonable .

Yes, you are correct.......but words matter. I agree its pretty reasonable to state they may not be able to win 3 in a row against the increased competition. But "zero" chance is a stupid statement. It will all play out starting in Feb.

Let's put it this way. SB is in that group of teams with an outside shot at it. That group probably comprises 6 or 7 teams, depending on how injuries play out etc. So if UNC and Maryland combined have, let's say, 76% chance of winning it to make numbers easy, the other 6 teams have each a 4% chance. So ok Mr. Literal, not 0%, but darn close. SB is not going to win the national championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He ... is always on the legal/illegal rule line.

No wonder he's at the end of the YJ pipeline.

Spoken like a true Marylander, maybe Virginian, same thing. Tell your cupcakes to stop with the flopping and head throwing, which your state University used to steal a Natty, and you won't have to worry about being roughed up a bit by true northeast lacrosse. Bunch of marys, like the too bright shirts their dad's wear all summer. Merry Christmas!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He ... is always on the legal/illegal rule line.

No wonder he's at the end of the YJ pipeline.

Spoken like a true Marylander, maybe Virginian, same thing. Tell your cupcakes to stop with the flopping and head throwing, which your state University used to steal a Natty, and you won't have to worry about being roughed up a bit by true northeast lacrosse. Bunch of marys, like the too bright shirts their dad's wear all summer. Merry Christmas!

Wrong. LIer who saw firsthand the YJ game. Haven't had a Natty since the early 80's. YJ does NOT represent "true northeast lacrosse," what a joke! You sound like exactly what you must be. Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Merry Christmas to you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

I Haven't seen the list. Are Those the only teams from LI? Surprised Garden city isn't in there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Wow not one Nassau team, let me guess you’re not a manhasset resident.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

Wow not one Nassau team, let me guess you’re not a manhasset resident.

GC was in finals last year when we were there w port. We’re better than all the Suffolk teams and probably will be again. Set should be better too. Suffolk bias is ridiculous, yes we’d be a lot better w a thousand more girls and combing 2 and 3 schools too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we get back on topic... girls HS...
IL event should be interesting. Predictions?

I'll go out on the limb with this one. #1 nationally - Mcdonough.

Out on a limb, probably not since they are usually (and deservedly so) at the top of the list. How about Long Island Schools. Which schools will make the top 20 from LI, in the IL and USA today rankings?? Thoughts? My guesses
ESM (14), MT. Sinai (10) , BBP (18), NP (19), who else? and where do you think they will fall.

What about MC

Northport, be serious. No way for MC. Anybody remember Garden City.

Give it a rest , Suffolk passed Nassau by awhile ago and it has not changed. Of the 4 divisions Suffolk will win at least 3 again this year and probably all 4 for the LI championships,

Nassau will always have Manhasset, Garden City, and Cold Spring Harbor plus a few surprises every year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give it a rest , Suffolk passed Nassau by awhile ago and it has not changed. Of the 4 divisions Suffolk will win at least 3 again this year and probably all 4 for the LI championships,

The only one that’s a given is c? With MS.

A look out for pequa very good team

B you can never discount GC

D who cares!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give it a rest , Suffolk passed Nassau by awhile ago and it has not changed. Of the 4 divisions Suffolk will win at least 3 again this year and probably all 4 for the LI championships,

you must be new to lacrosse, because Suffolk lags far behind Nassau , even in the recent past, especially in class B. Garden city has won 15 states since 2000, suffolk combined in all divisions only has 12, Your Guru, Carol Rose has been at NP for 20+ years but has only managed to win a single State. not that good. her flunky AL Bertalone has won 4 at least, even if it is in the weakest division until last year when D came along. In A Farmindale , a Nassau school, has done the most on the Island. in the end the numbers break down like this for state champs, or runner up since 2000
Nassau
20 champ - 4 runner up

suffolk
13 champ - 4 runner up

So, besides '15 in what year has suffolk done better than nassau in the past 17?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give it a rest , Suffolk passed Nassau by awhile ago and it has not changed. Of the 4 divisions Suffolk will win at least 3 again this year and probably all 4 for the LI championships,

you must be new to lacrosse, because Suffolk lags far behind Nassau , even in the recent past, especially in class B. Garden city has won 15 states since 2000, suffolk combined in all divisions only has 12, Your Guru, Carol Rose has been at NP for 20+ years but has only managed to win a single State. not that good. her flunky AL Bertalone has won 4 at least, even if it is in the weakest division until last year when D came along. In A Farmindale , a Nassau school, has done the most on the Island. in the end the numbers break down like this for state champs, or runner up since 2000
Nassau
20 champ - 4 runner up

suffolk
13 champ - 4 runner up

So, besides '15 in what year has suffolk done better than nassau in the past 17?

You really are clueless, how about last year , Suffolk with 3 Long Island championship teams ,2 state finalist teams , 1 state champion . Nassau 1 LI championship team , 1 state finalist, 1 State champion. Look at the players on the UA and school girls teams way more Suffolk players. Again this year Suufolk favored in A, C,D and honestly I think ESM takes it this year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give it a rest , Suffolk passed Nassau by awhile ago and it has not changed. Of the 4 divisions Suffolk will win at least 3 again this year and probably all 4 for the LI championships,

you must be new to lacrosse, because Suffolk lags far behind Nassau , even in the recent past, especially in class B. Garden city has won 15 states since 2000, suffolk combined in all divisions only has 12, Your Guru, Carol Rose has been at NP for 20+ years but has only managed to win a single State. not that good. her flunky AL Bertalone has won 4 at least, even if it is in the weakest division until last year when D came along. In A Farmindale , a Nassau school, has done the most on the Island. in the end the numbers break down like this for state champs, or runner up since 2000
Nassau
20 champ - 4 runner up

suffolk
13 champ - 4 runner up

So, besides '15 in what year has suffolk done better than nassau in the past 17?

You really are clueless, how about last year , Suffolk with 3 Long Island championship teams ,2 state finalist teams , 1 state champion . Nassau 1 LI championship team , 1 state finalist, 1 State champion. Look at the players on the UA and school girls teams way more Suffolk players. Again this year Suufolk favored in A, C,D and honestly I think ESM takes it this year .

For the past 4 years it's really not close .Mr. Garden City is the typical GC out of touch with reality GC parent . Look at the numbers for the past 4 years Suffolk has 9 LI championships ,5 State championships . Nassau has 4 LI championships and 3 state championships .Again it's been awhile since Nassau has been better than Suffolk .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give it a rest , Suffolk passed Nassau by awhile ago and it has not changed. Of the 4 divisions Suffolk will win at least 3 again this year and probably all 4 for the LI championships,

you must be new to lacrosse, because Suffolk lags far behind Nassau , even in the recent past, especially in class B. Garden city has won 15 states since 2000, suffolk combined in all divisions only has 12, Your Guru, Carol Rose has been at NP for 20+ years but has only managed to win a single State. not that good. her flunky AL Bertalone has won 4 at least, even if it is in the weakest division until last year when D came along. In A Farmindale , a Nassau school, has done the most on the Island. in the end the numbers break down like this for state champs, or runner up since 2000
Nassau
20 champ - 4 runner up

suffolk
13 champ - 4 runner up

So, besides '15 in what year has suffolk done better than nassau in the past 17?

You really are clueless, how about last year , Suffolk with 3 Long Island championship teams ,2 state finalist teams , 1 state champion . Nassau 1 LI championship team , 1 state finalist, 1 State champion. Look at the players on the UA and school girls teams way more Suffolk players. Again this year Suufolk favored in A, C,D and honestly I think ESM takes it this year .

For the past 4 years it's really not close .Mr. Garden City is the typical GC out of touch with reality GC parent . Look at the numbers for the past 4 years Suffolk has 9 LI championships ,5 State championships . Nassau has 4 LI championships and 3 state championships .Again it's been awhile since Nassau has been better than Suffolk .

so your basing this on 2 years, The reason there are more U.A team members is because the suffolk coaches are picking the teams, and by the way , didn't the L.I. team lose the U.A. champ to New England because of it, not really something I would brag about. And to also brag about wing the new D division is pretty pitiful, And the A division (which has been dominated by either west Gennie or F-dale) but is historically weak on L.I. is laughable. The toughest division by far is B and suffolk can't touch it. M.C. is over, NP is over rated,SWR is a train wreck, ESM are eating there own. You have Mount S, which is lucky it isn't in B and doesn't have to play GC or 'set . to be fare, Wantaugh is done Fdale is a disaster, Mass. is as overrated as BBP and CSH. Then you have the newbies like River head, Port Washington, Lynbrook and Mattituck that are more hot air than talent. I will give you one thing though Suffolk does rule when it comes to selfish players, you have far more "go to goal" girls than Nassau, and thats why your playing catch up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give it a rest , Suffolk passed Nassau by awhile ago and it has not changed. Of the 4 divisions Suffolk will win at least 3 again this year and probably all 4 for the LI championships,

you must be new to lacrosse, because Suffolk lags far behind Nassau , even in the recent past, especially in class B. Garden city has won 15 states since 2000, suffolk combined in all divisions only has 12, Your Guru, Carol Rose has been at NP for 20+ years but has only managed to win a single State. not that good. her flunky AL Bertalone has won 4 at least, even if it is in the weakest division until last year when D came
along. In A Farmindale , a Nassau school, has done the most on the Island. in the end the numbers break down like this for state champs, or runner up since 2000
Nassau
20 champ - 4 runner up

suffolk
13 champ - 4 runner up

So, besides '15 in what year has suffolk done better than nassau in the past 17?

You really are clueless, how about last year , Suffolk with 3 Long Island championship teams ,2 state finalist teams , 1 state champion . Nassau 1 LI championship team , 1 state finalist, 1 State champion. Look at the players on the UA and school girls teams way more Suffolk players. Again this year Suufolk favored in A, C,D and honestly I think ESM takes it this year .

For the past 4 years it's really not close .Mr. Garden City is the typical GC out of touch with reality GC parent . Look at the numbers for the past 4 years Suffolk has 9 LI championships ,5 State championships . Nassau has 4 LI championships and 3 state championships .Again it's been awhile since Nassau has been better than Suffolk .

so your basing this on 2 years, The reason there are more U.A team members is because the suffolk coaches are picking the teams, and by the way , didn't the L.I. team lose the U.A. champ to New England because of it, not really something I would brag about. And to also brag about wing the new D division is pretty pitiful, And the A division (which has been dominated by either west Gennie or F-dale) but is historically weak on L.I. is laughable. The toughest division by far is B and suffolk can't touch it. M.C. is over, NP is over rated,SWR is a train wreck, ESM are eating there own. You have Mount S, which is lucky it isn't in B and doesn't have to play GC or 'set . to be fare, Wantaugh is done Fdale is a disaster, Mass. is as overrated as BBP and CSH. Then you have the newbies like River head, Port Washington, Lynbrook and Mattituck that are more hot air than talent. I will give you one thing though Suffolk does rule when it comes to selfish players, you have far more "go to goal" girls than Nassau, and thats why your playing catch up

Your ignorance is astounding ,not sure how you just picked “2years “, when the poster clearly stated the last 4. Actually the UA teams both won the he championship this year with all those Suffolk players but of course you have no idea about that as your kid obviously got cut. It’s actually pathetic that you feel GC and Sett are so far and away better than all other LI teams ; so typical of flaccid fathers from those towns.

You really are clueless, how about last year , Suffolk with 3 Long Island championship teams ,2 state finalist teams , 1 state champion . Nassau 1 LI championship team , 1 state finalist, 1 State champion. Look at the players on the UA and school girls teams way more Suffolk players. Again this year Suufolk favored in A, C,D and honestly I think ESM takes it this year .
[/quote]

For the past 4 years it's really not close .Mr. Garden City is the typical GC out of touch with reality GC parent . Look at the numbers for the past 4 years Suffolk has 9 LI championships ,5 State championships . Nassau has 4 LI championships and 3 state championships .Again it's been awhile since Nassau has been better than Suffolk .
[/quote]
so your basing this on 2 years, The reason there are more U.A team members is because the suffolk coaches are picking the teams, and by the way , didn't the L.I. team lose the U.A. champ to New England because of it, not really something I would brag about. And to also brag about wing the new D division is pretty pitiful, And the A division (which has been dominated by either west Gennie or F-dale) but is historically weak on L.I. is laughable. The toughest division by far is B and suffolk can't touch it. M.C. is over, NP is over rated,SWR is a train wreck, ESM are eating there own. You have Mount S, which is lucky it isn't in B and doesn't have to play GC or 'set . to be fare, Wantaugh is done Fdale is a disaster, Mass. is as overrated as BBP and CSH. Then you have the newbies like River head, Port Washington, Lynbrook and Mattituck that are more hot air than talent. I will give you one thing though Suffolk does rule when it comes to selfish players, you have far more "go to goal" girls than Nassau, and thats why your playing catch up[/quote]

Your ignorance is astounding ,not sure how you just picked “2years “, when the poster clearly stated the last 4. Actually the UA teams both won the he championship this year with all those Suffolk players but of course you have no idea about that as your kid obviously got cut. It’s actually pathetic that you feel GC and Sett are so far and away better than all other LI teams ; so typical of flaccid fathers from those towns.[/quote] I'm from suffolk and have seen all these teams play. Suffolk teams get 1 or 2 girls per team that have talent and make a run for a few years and get parents like yourself on this site bragging about how there little superstar is changing the landscape of girls lacrosse. Then super Sally goes off to college and your town sucks again. Np and WI are perfect examples of this, so is M.C. The one consistent team proven over and over is GC. So you can sit there in MS and brag all you want but until your town goes, lets say 6 of 8, showing a developing culture of team play with no real super Sally, just multiple weapons equally good, your just this years flash in the pan and will be gone soon and the rest of us will not have to hear from you any more. Unfortunately, there will be another big mouth just like yourself to fill the void, That is the difference between Nassau and suffolk, with one exception SWR, and no I don't live there either. So as of today the closest you have is MS, but we'll see in the next year or 2 if Al can keep it up, or will he fizzle out like the rest. By the way my daughter wasn't cut by anyone last year she graduated a few years ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You really are clueless, how about last year , Suffolk with 3 Long Island championship teams ,2 state finalist teams , 1 state champion . Nassau 1 LI championship team , 1 state finalist, 1 State champion. Look at the players on the UA and school girls teams way more Suffolk players. Again this year Suufolk favored in A, C,D and honestly I think ESM takes it this year .

For the past 4 years it's really not close .Mr. Garden City is the typical GC out of touch with reality GC parent . Look at the numbers for the past 4 years Suffolk has 9 LI championships ,5 State championships . Nassau has 4 LI championships and 3 state championships .Again it's been awhile since Nassau has been better than Suffolk .
[/quote]
so your basing this on 2 years, The reason there are more U.A team members is because the suffolk coaches are picking the teams, and by the way , didn't the L.I. team lose the U.A. champ to New England because of it, not really something I would brag about. And to also brag about wing the new D division is pretty pitiful, And the A division (which has been dominated by either west Gennie or F-dale) but is historically weak on L.I. is laughable. The toughest division by far is B and suffolk can't touch it. M.C. is over, NP is over rated,SWR is a train wreck, ESM are eating there own. You have Mount S, which is lucky it isn't in B and doesn't have to play GC or 'set . to be fare, Wantaugh is done Fdale is a disaster, Mass. is as overrated as BBP and CSH. Then you have the newbies like River head, Port Washington, Lynbrook and Mattituck that are more hot air than talent. I will give you one thing though Suffolk does rule when it comes to selfish players, you have far more "go to goal" girls than Nassau, and thats why your playing catch up[/quote]

Your ignorance is astounding ,not sure how you just picked “2years “, when the poster clearly stated the last 4. Actually the UA teams both won the he championship this year with all those Suffolk players but of course you have no idea about that as your kid obviously got cut. It’s actually pathetic that you feel GC and Sett are so far and away better than all other LI teams ; so typical of flaccid fathers from those towns.[/quote] I'm from suffolk and have seen all these teams play. Suffolk teams get 1 or 2 girls per team that have talent and make a run for a few years and get parents like yourself on this site bragging about how there little superstar is changing the landscape of girls lacrosse. Then super Sally goes off to college and your town sucks again. Np and WI are perfect examples of this, so is M.C. The one consistent team proven over and over is GC. So you can sit there in MS and brag all you want but until your town goes, lets say 6 of 8, showing a developing culture of team play with no real super Sally, just multiple weapons equally good, your just this years flash in the pan and will be gone soon and the rest of us will not have to hear from you any more. Unfortunately, there will be another big mouth just like yourself to fill the void, That is the difference between Nassau and suffolk, with one exception SWR, and no I don't live there either. So as of today the closest you have is MS, but we'll see in the next year or 2 if Al can keep it up, or will he fizzle out like the rest. By the way my daughter wasn't cut by anyone last year she graduated a few years ago[/quote]

Suffolk = white trash and thug ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You really are clueless, how about last year , Suffolk with 3 Long Island championship teams ,2 state finalist teams , 1 state champion . Nassau 1 LI championship team , 1 state finalist, 1 State champion. Look at the players on the UA and school girls teams way more Suffolk players. Again this year Suufolk favored in A, C,D and honestly I think ESM takes it this year .

For the past 4 years it's really not close .Mr. Garden City is the typical GC out of touch with reality GC parent . Look at the numbers for the past 4 years Suffolk has 9 LI championships ,5 State championships . Nassau has 4 LI championships and 3 state championships .Again it's been awhile since Nassau has been better than Suffolk .
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so your basing this on 2 years, The reason there are more U.A team members is because the suffolk coaches are picking the teams, and by the way , didn't the L.I. team lose the U.A. champ to New England because of it, not really something I would brag about. And to also brag about wing the new D division is pretty pitiful, And the A division (which has been dominated by either west Gennie or F-dale) but is historically weak on L.I. is laughable. The toughest division by far is B and suffolk can't touch it. M.C. is over, NP is over rated,SWR is a train wreck, ESM are eating there own. You have Mount S, which is lucky it isn't in B and doesn't have to play GC or 'set . to be fare, Wantaugh is done Fdale is a disaster, Mass. is as overrated as BBP and CSH. Then you have the newbies like River head, Port Washington, Lynbrook and Mattituck that are more hot air than talent. I will give you one thing though Suffolk does rule when it comes to selfish players, you have far more "go to goal" girls than Nassau, and thats why your playing catch up[/quote]

Your ignorance is astounding ,not sure how you just picked “2years “, when the poster clearly stated the last 4. Actually the UA teams both won the he championship this year with all those Suffolk players but of course you have no idea about that as your kid obviously got cut. It’s actually pathetic that you feel GC and Sett are so far and away better than all other LI teams ; so typical of flaccid fathers from those towns.[/quote] I'm from suffolk and have seen all these teams play. Suffolk teams get 1 or 2 girls per team that have talent and make a run for a few years and get parents like yourself on this site bragging about how there little superstar is changing the landscape of girls lacrosse. Then super Sally goes off to college and your town sucks again. Np and WI are perfect examples of this, so is M.C. The one consistent team proven over and over is GC. So you can sit there in MS and brag all you want but until your town goes, lets say 6 of 8, showing a developing culture of team play with no real super Sally, just multiple weapons equally good, your just this years flash in the pan and will be gone soon and the rest of us will not have to hear from you any more. Unfortunately, there will be another big mouth just like yourself to fill the void, That is the difference between Nassau and suffolk, with one exception SWR, and no I don't live there either. So as of today the closest you have is MS, but we'll see in the next year or 2 if Al can keep it up, or will he fizzle out like the rest. By the way my daughter wasn't cut by anyone last year she graduated a few years ago[/quote]

Not even sure where to begin. First your kid graduated years ago but you are still posting on the high school thread ,time to move on. Have never seen anyone on this site boasting about their kid changing the landscape, seems a little dramatic. Not to knock Shoreham but they have not been the exemplary program in Suffolk for some time so its seems you are living in the past or just being ignorant. You can talk about GC all you want but that's one town, the overall talent in Suffolk is better than Nassau and has been for some time and it shows in the numbers of LI Championships. My guess is you tried to change it into a MS vs GC because you realize you don't have a leg to stand on or just too ignorant to follow what the original post was about.

Not even sure where to begin. First your kid graduated years ago but you are still posting on the high school thread ,time to move on. Have never seen anyone on this site boasting about their kid changing the landscape, seems a little dramatic. Not to knock Shoreham but they have not been the exemplary program in Suffolk for some time so its seems you are living in the past or just being ignorant. You can talk about GC all you want but that's one town, the overall talent in Suffolk is better than Nassau and has been for some time and it shows in the numbers of LI Championships. My guess is you tried to change it into a MS vs GC because you realize you don't have a leg to stand on or just too ignorant to follow what the original post was about.
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Following a sport of any type means you're a fan, and not just coming on to boast while living through my kid, No I'm not turning into G.C. vs, MS because there is no comparison. There is nothing ignorant about stating facts like over the last 6 to 8 years, encompassing more than just 1 cycle of grads, no suffolk school can claim as much success as a Nassau school, hence not dominate. How can I be living in the past if GC won last year? Never said SWR was winning now, just that they were the closest thing to a true Lax community like GC. or 'set, right until the YJ travel parents became a thing. How about this , name one Suffolk school that has any type of consistent winning tendency besides MS? and I mean longer than 5 years. Look I know Lacrosse is relatively new to most suffolk schools, and you feel like you need to brag to make yourself feel better about not playing yourself when you went to school out here, but past and recent history proves your still playing catch up. Winning weak divisions state wide and having your coaches pick their players to UA doesn't make you dominate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not even sure where to begin. First your kid graduated years ago but you are still posting on the high school thread ,time to move on. Have never seen anyone on this site boasting about their kid changing the landscape, seems a little dramatic. Not to knock Shoreham but they have not been the exemplary program in Suffolk for some time so its seems you are living in the past or just being ignorant. You can talk about GC all you want but that's one town, the overall talent in Suffolk is better than Nassau and has been for some time and it shows in the numbers of LI Championships. My guess is you tried to change it into a MS vs GC because you realize you don't have a leg to stand on or just too ignorant to follow what the original post was about.

Following a sport of any type means you're a fan, and not just coming on to boast while living through my kid, No I'm not turning into G.C. vs, MS because there is no comparison. There is nothing ignorant about stating facts like over the last 6 to 8 years, encompassing more than just 1 cycle of grads, no suffolk school can claim as much success as a Nassau school, hence not dominate. How can I be living in the past if GC won last year? Never said SWR was winning now, just that they were the closest thing to a true Lax community like GC. or 'set, right until the YJ travel parents became a thing. How about this , name one Suffolk school that has any type of consistent winning tendency besides MS? and I mean longer than 5 years. Look I know Lacrosse is relatively new to most suffolk schools, and you feel like you need to brag to make yourself feel better about not playing yourself when you went to school out here, but past and recent history proves your still playing catch up. Winning weak divisions state wide and having your coaches pick their players to UA doesn't make you dominate. [/quote]

From 1995-2017, Garden City has won 15 state championships. All of the Suffolk schools combined over that same period have won 12. Add the rest of Nassau and it is 21 to 12. Suffolk has awesome lacrosse, a nice 3 year run from 2015-2017, but do it over a 20 year span and then come on here and beat your chest.

Honestly using results from 20 years ago to determine who currently has better lacrosse is sad and pathetic .I would say section XI has a good chance to sweep the LI championships this year . When you discount all other divisions other than B in NYS it just shows your ignorance and lack of depth in Section 8. Here is a quote from the most decorated girls lacrosse coach in Nassau " the sport of lacrosse has grown from years ago when there were only a handful of school teams on LI....the former power teams on LI have been SURPASSED in some ways by teams east of 110" . Get used to it , at best section 8 sends 1 team upstate this year and most likely they don't send any .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly using results from 20 years ago to determine who currently has better lacrosse is sad and pathetic .I would say section XI has a good chance to sweep the LI championships this year . When you discount all other divisions other than B in NYS it just shows your ignorance and lack of depth in Section 8. Here is a quote from the most decorated girls lacrosse coach in Nassau " the sport of lacrosse has grown from years ago when there were only a handful of school teams on LI....the former power teams on LI have been SURPASSED in some ways by teams east of 110" . Get used to it , at best section 8 sends 1 team upstate this year and most likely they don't send any .

I do not like to name call, but you are making it hard. The analysis is not from 20 years ago, it includes every year back to 1995. No where did it say the data was limited to Class B, those state championship numbers are across all classifications. Suffolk has 2 Class A titles, Nassau 4, Suffolk 1 Class B title and Nassau 17, Suffolk has 9 Class C and Nassau 0, neither has a Class D title. You could have looked it up and added to realize the numbers included all classifications but apparently that is too much work. Suffolk’s success through 2017 is in class C and Class C only, a historically weak classification across NY state. You must be from Mount Sinai and in dire need of affirmation.

I like to come around and see whats up with the upcoming HS season. This year I notice a lot of inappropriate ads. Is it the site or my device?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly using results from 20 years ago to determine who currently has better lacrosse is sad and pathetic .I would say section XI has a good chance to sweep the LI championships this year . When you discount all other divisions other than B in NYS it just shows your ignorance and lack of depth in Section 8. Here is a quote from the most decorated girls lacrosse coach in Nassau " the sport of lacrosse has grown from years ago when there were only a handful of school teams on LI....the former power teams on LI have been SURPASSED in some ways by teams east of 110" . Get used to it , at best section 8 sends 1 team upstate this year and most likely they don't send any .

I do not like to name call, but you are making it hard. The analysis is not from 20 years ago, it includes every year back to 1995. No where did it say the data was limited to Class B, those state championship numbers are across all classifications. Suffolk has 2 Class A titles, Nassau 4, Suffolk 1 Class B title and Nassau 17, Suffolk has 9 Class C and Nassau 0, neither has a Class D title. You could have looked it up and added to realize the numbers included all classifications but apparently that is too much work. Suffolk’s success through 2017 is in class C and Class C only, a historically weak classification across NY state. You must be from Mount Sinai and in dire need of affirmation.

You must have a learning disability ,you are using results from 20 years ago and longer in your numbers . The discussion was who has better lacrosse currently, using numbers from over 20 years ago is irrelevant .If it makes you feel better you can claim Nassau was better prior to your kids playing but the numbers over the last 4 years prove Suffolk is just better overall. Your most acclaimed coach thinks Suffolk is better just not you flaccid GC parents . By the way not from Sinai actually can't stand them but will say along with GC are the most successful programs recently in NYS. Let's hear your prediction for this years LI championships so I can abuse you some more when Suffolk sweeps them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly using results from 20 years ago to determine who currently has better lacrosse is sad and pathetic .I would say section XI has a good chance to sweep the LI championships this year . When you discount all other divisions other than B in NYS it just shows your ignorance and lack of depth in Section 8. Here is a quote from the most decorated girls lacrosse coach in Nassau " the sport of lacrosse has grown from years ago when there were only a handful of school teams on LI....the former power teams on LI have been SURPASSED in some ways by teams east of 110" . Get used to it , at best section 8 sends 1 team upstate this year and most likely they don't send any .

I do not like to name call, but you are making it hard. The analysis is not from 20 years ago, it includes every year back to 1995. No where did it say the data was limited to Class B, those state championship numbers are across all classifications. Suffolk has 2 Class A titles, Nassau 4, Suffolk 1 Class B title and Nassau 17, Suffolk has 9 Class C and Nassau 0, neither has a Class D title. You could have looked it up and added to realize the numbers included all classifications but apparently that is too much work. Suffolk’s success through 2017 is in class C and Class C only, a historically weak classification across NY state. You must be from Mount Sinai and in dire need of affirmation.

You must have a learning disability ,you are using results from 20 years ago and longer in your numbers . The discussion was who has better lacrosse currently, using numbers from over 20 years ago is irrelevant .If it makes you feel better you can claim Nassau was better prior to your kids playing but the numbers over the last 4 years prove Suffolk is just better overall. Your most acclaimed coach thinks Suffolk is better just not you flaccid GC parents . By the way not from Sinai actually can't stand them but will say along with GC are the most successful programs recently in NYS. Let's hear your prediction for this years LI championships so I can abuse you some more when Suffolk sweeps them.

Clas C is a joke. Last 5 years in Class A and Class B Nassau has 4 titles and Suffolk 2. In the big leagues, Nassau still ahead of Suffolk.

Has anyone actually seen a document on the stringing guidelines for mesh in girls game? US lacrosse announces a new approval of mesh but with no guidelines. The traditional pocket has thirty different guidelines and pics you need to follow.

Is it you just need to see ball above side rail? Can we get rid of all the traditional picket guidelines as well?

I have seen nothing since initial announcement. But many companies are stringing them.

Again US Lacrosse a joke.

Please share if it is out there.

completely agree that us lax is a total joke. The clubs make most of the rules. Just make sure your us lax membership is paid up, that's all they care about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone actually seen a document on the stringing guidelines for mesh in girls game? US lacrosse announces a new approval of mesh but with no guidelines. The traditional pocket has thirty different guidelines and pics you need to follow.

Is it you just need to see ball above side rail? Can we get rid of all the traditional picket guidelines as well?

I have seen nothing since initial announcement. But many companies are stringing them.

Again US Lacrosse a joke.

Please share if it is out there.

If it's the girls Warrior Warp head, it is okay because they probably gave USL a boatload of cash to change the rule. Anything else, not okay unless you pay up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone actually seen a document on the stringing guidelines for mesh in girls game? US lacrosse announces a new approval of mesh but with no guidelines. The traditional pocket has thirty different guidelines and pics you need to follow.

Is it you just need to see ball above side rail? Can we get rid of all the traditional picket guidelines as well?

I have seen nothing since initial announcement. But many companies are stringing them.

Again US Lacrosse a joke.

Please share if it is out there.

Implementation of this rule will be a nightmare. The basic idea was ok, but the loop holes and non-standardized criteria should make pre-game stick reviews a joke. They should drop the pre-game stick reviews. Most of the HS womens lax officials are sub-par to start with now add this subjective rule to the mix..........yikes!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone actually seen a document on the stringing guidelines for mesh in girls game? US lacrosse announces a new approval of mesh but with no guidelines. The traditional pocket has thirty different guidelines and pics you need to follow.

Is it you just need to see ball above side rail? Can we get rid of all the traditional picket guidelines as well?

I have seen nothing since initial announcement. But many companies are stringing them.

Again US Lacrosse a joke.

Please share if it is out there.

Implementation of this rule will be a nightmare. The basic idea was ok, but the loop holes and non-standardized criteria should make pre-game stick reviews a joke. They should drop the pre-game stick reviews. Most of the HS womens lax officials are sub-par to start with now add this subjective rule to the mix..........yikes!!!

Any and all lacrosse equipment made by manufactures are subjected to USLax and FIL testing. It is contracted and approved by a third party engineering company solely for this purpose. All the approvals are registered with and accepted by NCAA, US lacrosse and the trickle down to schools and tournaments adopting these standards. Any and all manufacturing companies are aware and know this. It is a much cleaner approval for the pre game than the mess of a an after market traditional strung head.

I understand that a manufacturer knows as they will be making the money and the rules.
About 1percent of Elite players sticks are manufactured Strung sticks. So a “stringer” needs to have a set of specs/guidelines/rules.

Interesting when traditional pockets were discussed two years ago there were 30 qualifications and pics presented of dos and dont’s. I would have to ask why? Can someone answers this.

Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone actually seen a document on the stringing guidelines for mesh in girls game? US lacrosse announces a new approval of mesh but with no guidelines. The traditional pocket has thirty different guidelines and pics you need to follow.

Is it you just need to see ball above side rail? Can we get rid of all the traditional picket guidelines as well?

I have seen nothing since initial announcement. But many companies are stringing them.

Again US Lacrosse a joke.

Please share if it is out there.

Implementation of this rule will be a nightmare. The basic idea was ok, but the loop holes and non-standardized criteria should make pre-game stick reviews a joke. They should drop the pre-game stick reviews. Most of the HS womens lax officials are sub-par to start with now add this subjective rule to the mix..........yikes!!!

Any and all lacrosse equipment made by manufactures are subjected to USLax and FIL testing. It is contracted and approved by a third party engineering company solely for this purpose. All the approvals are registered with and accepted by NCAA, US lacrosse and the trickle down to schools and tournaments adopting these standards. Any and all manufacturing companies are aware and know this. It is a much cleaner approval for the pre game than the mess of a an after market traditional strung head.

Huh???.......do you really think players purchase a manufacturers stick from a store and go and play. Most will re-string to their liking which now can be almost any type pocket/material as long as you can see the ball over the rail. And again, not to harp on the lack of knowledge that the HS officials will have during pre game stick checks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

Is anyone actually going to that money grab?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone actually seen a document on the stringing guidelines for mesh in girls game? US lacrosse announces a new approval of mesh but with no guidelines. The traditional pocket has thirty different guidelines and pics you need to follow.

Is it you just need to see ball above side rail? Can we get rid of all the traditional picket guidelines as well?

I have seen nothing since initial announcement. But many companies are stringing them.

Again US Lacrosse a joke.

Please share if it is out there.

Implementation of this rule will be a nightmare. The basic idea was ok, but the loop holes and non-standardized criteria should make pre-game stick reviews a joke. They should drop the pre-game stick reviews. Most of the HS womens lax officials are sub-par to start with now add this subjective rule to the mix..........yikes!!!

Any and all lacrosse equipment made by manufactures are subjected to USLax and FIL testing. It is contracted and approved by a third party engineering company solely for this purpose. All the approvals are registered with and accepted by NCAA, US lacrosse and the trickle down to schools and tournaments adopting these standards. Any and all manufacturing companies are aware and know this. It is a much cleaner approval for the pre game than the mess of a an after market traditional strung head.

Huh???.......do you really think players purchase a manufacturers stick from a store and go and play. Most will re-string to their liking which now can be almost any type pocket/material as long as you can see the ball over the rail. And again, not to harp on the lack of knowledge that the HS officials will have during pre game stick checks.

My daughter just plays with her older brother who is in HS stick...ball never comes out of pocket and she gets great leverage and speed on shots....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone actually seen a document on the stringing guidelines for mesh in girls game? US lacrosse announces a new approval of mesh but with no guidelines. The traditional pocket has thirty different guidelines and pics you need to follow.

Is it you just need to see ball above side rail? Can we get rid of all the traditional picket guidelines as well?

I have seen nothing since initial announcement. But many companies are stringing them.

Again US Lacrosse a joke.

Please share if it is out there.

Implementation of this rule will be a nightmare. The basic idea was ok, but the loop holes and non-standardized criteria should make pre-game stick reviews a joke. They should drop the pre-game stick reviews. Most of the HS womens lax officials are sub-par to start with now add this subjective rule to the mix..........yikes!!!

Any and all lacrosse equipment made by manufactures are subjected to USLax and FIL testing. It is contracted and approved by a third party engineering company solely for this purpose. All the approvals are registered with and accepted by NCAA, US lacrosse and the trickle down to schools and tournaments adopting these standards. Any and all manufacturing companies are aware and know this. It is a much cleaner approval for the pre game than the mess of a an after market traditional strung head.

Huh???.......do you really think players purchase a manufacturers stick from a store and go and play. Most will re-string to their liking which now can be almost any type pocket/material as long as you can see the ball over the rail. And again, not to harp on the lack of knowledge that the HS officials will have during pre game stick checks.

That is the point. You get a million people stringing a different way and it is a mess. These new mesh pockets are factory or at least leave less for the stringer to screw up, it takes the [ChillLaxin] show out of the equation, thereby making the implementation of the rules, at least for the factory pockets, easier. And for what is is worth 90% of the people stringing heads suck at it, especially the women's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

Is anyone actually going to that money grab?

Guess your daughters team was not invited since the best five varsity teams from LI are attending. Four from Suffolk one from Nassau.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

Is anyone actually going to that money grab?

Guess your daughters team was not invited since the best five varsity teams from LI are attending. Four from Suffolk one from Nassau.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

Is anyone actually going to that money grab?

Guess your daughters team was not invited since the best five varsity teams from LI are attending. Four from Suffolk one from Nassau.

LOL

Only top 32 high school teams got invites and all 32 are going. Not a money grab, just the best high school teams playing each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

yeh ok.... no YJ connection there. Keep drinking the cool aid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

yeh ok.... no YJ connection there. Keep drinking the cool aid

No YJ teams are listed unless you count Northport, ESM and Mt Sinai

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Spooky Nook this weekend it'll be nice to see how Long Island teams stack up with the rest of the country

yeh ok.... no YJ connection there. Keep drinking the cool aid

I seriously have no idea what you're talking about and I have absolutely no connection to YJ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only top 32 high school teams got invites and all 32 are going. Not a money grab, just the best high school teams playing each other.

Best HS teams? BBP, ESM, Mattituck? Um, no. Where are WM, Smith East, Smith West, WI?

Why are so many of you so bitter? My daughter's team played last year and it was a great weekend. I'm excited about watching her play college lacrosse next month, but since she's my youngest and it feels like it was all over way too quickly, I'd take a repeat of last year too just to experience it all again. Try to enjoy this - if you can put aside your insecurities, it's really a great ride.

That tournament is what it is. It's not a true national championship for HS teams. It's a well run indoor tournament with lots of great competition. It would be a great accomplishment to win, but easy on the "National Championship" hype.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That tournament is what it is. It's not a true national championship for HS teams. It's a well run indoor tournament with lots of great competition. It would be a great accomplishment to win, but easy on the "National Championship" hype.

Not sure anyone was pretending its an actual high school national championship as its a 7 on 7 indoor small field format. That said the competition level is better than any other girls lacrosse event out there. As far as the obviously clueless and jealous parents of the large school teams who feel the smaller schools could not possibly compete in the A division, get a clue the B and C divisions on LI have had more talent than those bigger schools for years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only top 32 high school teams got invites and all 32 are going. Not a money grab, just the best high school teams playing each other.

Best HS teams? BBP, ESM, Mattituck? Um, no. Where are WM, Smith East, Smith West, WI?

West Islip maybe, Smithtown East and West don't think so and Ward Melville not unless they send their boys team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That tournament is what it is. It's not a true national championship for HS teams. It's a well run indoor tournament with lots of great competition. It would be a great accomplishment to win, but easy on the "National Championship" hype.

Not sure anyone was pretending its an actual high school national championship as its a 7 on 7 indoor small field format. That said the competition level is better than any other girls lacrosse event out there. As far as the obviously clueless and jealous parents of the large school teams who feel the smaller schools could not possibly compete in the A division, get a clue the B and C divisions on LI have had more talent than those bigger schools for years.

Stop it, small school mom. Just stop.

What Long Island teams are playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That tournament is what it is. It's not a true national championship for HS teams. It's a well run indoor tournament with lots of great competition. It would be a great accomplishment to win, but easy on the "National Championship" hype.

Not sure anyone was pretending its an actual high school national championship as its a 7 on 7 indoor small field format. That said the competition level is better than any other girls lacrosse event out there. As far as the obviously clueless and jealous parents of the large school teams who feel the smaller schools could not possibly compete in the A
division, get a clue the B and C divisions on LI have had more talent than those bigger schools for years.

Stop it, small school mom. Just stop.

You really have no clue .GC, Sinai have been better than any A size LI school for years .The A division has had a large number of weak teams for years and have not had any program that is consistently a strong team. Massapequa was barely won more than they lost and Middle country will never be good again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That tournament is what it is. It's not a true national championship for HS teams. It's a well run indoor tournament with lots of great competition. It would be a great accomplishment to win, but easy on the "National Championship" hype.

Not sure anyone was pretending its an actual high school national championship as its a 7 on 7 indoor small field format. That said the competition level is better than any other girls lacrosse event out there. As far as the obviously clueless and jealous parents of the large school teams who feel the smaller schools could not possibly compete in the A
division, get a clue the B and C divisions on LI have had more talent than those bigger schools for years.

Stop it, small school mom. Just stop.

You really have no clue .GC, Sinai have been better than any A size LI school for years .The A division has had a large number of weak teams for years and have not had any program that is consistently a strong team. Massapequa was barely won more than they lost and Middle country will never be good again.

Individually Mt. Sinai has been excellent the last five years. Unfortunately across NY state, the class C level is simply not competitive lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What Long Island teams are playing?

the ones with YJ coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What Long Island teams are playing?

the ones with YJ coaches

Ok your obsession with YJ needs to stop the top 32 teams from last seasons inside lacrosse HS rankings were invited. Arguably not the best selection process since seniors graduated etc. but it has to be based on something.

High School Team from Mass knocks of LI team at IL Indoor Championships in OT. Lax is spreading.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School Team from Mass knocks of LI team at IL Indoor Championships in OT. Lax is spreading.

Mass team was not even a true Mass team. His were hand picked from other states.

What teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School Team from Mass knocks of LI team at IL Indoor Championships in OT. Lax is spreading.

Mass team was not even a true Mass team. His were hand picked from other states.

3 out of 5 Long Island teams advance to playoffs, bbp just misses on a last second tying game that was disallowed. 2 team move to semis!! LONG ISLAND STRONG!!! Mass my A__!! Good luck G. And MS!!!

And how about the LI teams beating the mighty Mcdonogh!!

ESM and My Sinai beat Mcdonogh! Great day for Long Island H.S. lax!

Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Md parent - great indoor event. Glad to be a part of it. Unbelievable talent everywhere. More fun then I thought it would be. Ny teams were very good as was bishop. Fun to be a part of.

Happy New Year!

Will 2018 bring any change to the lacrosse landscape? Will any college teams break into the select group of elite teams? Which program has the best chance?

How about at the HS level? Will there be any surprises ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Happy New Year!

Will 2018 bring any change to the lacrosse landscape? Will any college teams break into the select group of elite teams? Which program has the best chance?

How about at the HS level? Will there be any surprises ?

I'll take UNC and Maryland, you can have everyone else. Ride them both until a 2nd tier team like SB Florida and others show they can win the big game

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Congrats to Mt Sinai very impressive yesterday. If you don't think Bert is the top coach on the Island you just aren't paying attention.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Congrats to Mt Sinai very impressive yesterday. If you don't think Bert is the top coach on the Island you just aren't paying attention.

I agree, then it does make you wonder why our '21 YJ team just can't compete. Maybe because he NEVER makes any changes, we've had enough of the losing. Unfortunately, I think more is on it's way this summer. Congrats MS, great job girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Congrats to Mt Sinai very impressive yesterday. If you don't think Bert is the top coach on the Island you just aren't paying attention.

Yes, congratulations! Who doesn't think he is one of the best coaches on the Island? He does more with less than any other coach out there. Just Imagine what he would be able to accomplish at one of the larger schools out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Congrats to Mt Sinai very impressive yesterday. If you don't think Bert is the top coach on the Island you just aren't paying attention.

I agree, then it does make you wonder why our '21 YJ team just can't compete. Maybe because he NEVER makes any changes, we've had enough of the losing. Unfortunately, I think more is on it's way this summer. Congrats MS, great job girls.

I will say it makes me wonder. In years past the YJ B teams would dominate B divisions and those teams could compete with all but a handful of the A division teams. This 2021 B team are hardly competitive in B tournament divisions. The multitude of club options has depleted the club's ability to put a highly competitive second team on the field. I still feel Bert does a good job with what his is given.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Congrats to Mt Sinai very impressive yesterday. If you don't think Bert is the top coach on the Island you just aren't paying attention.

I agree, then it does make you wonder why our '21 YJ team just can't compete. Maybe because he NEVER makes any changes, we've had enough of the losing. Unfortunately, I think more is on it's way this summer. Congrats MS, great job girls.

I will say it makes me wonder. In years past the YJ B teams would dominate B divisions and those teams could compete with all but a handful of the A division teams. This 2021 B team are hardly competitive in B tournament divisions. The multitude of club options has depleted the club's ability to put a highly competitive second team on the field. I still feel Bert does a good job with what his is given.

If you were a high school coach, and coached a travel team, would you pick all girls from your high school town to play on your team? YES you would as it will make the high school team much better when the girls get there, having played together and under the coach for many years leading in. He is certainly not the only coach doing this, but obviously he is having the most success at it. It may cost the travel team from being competitive today, but it will certainly help his school team down the road, sorry but those kind of politics are all over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Congrats to Mt Sinai very impressive yesterday. If you don't think Bert is the top coach on the Island you just aren't paying attention.

Yes, congratulations! Who doesn't think he is one of the best coaches on the Island? He does more with less than any other coach out there. Just Imagine what he would be able to accomplish at one of the larger schools out there.

MORE WITH LESS, SERIOUSLY
YOU ARE CLUELESS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to Mount Sinai for bringing home the IL indoor National championship. Way to represent Long Island lax.

Congrats to Mt Sinai very impressive yesterday. If you don't think Bert is the top coach on the Island you just aren't paying attention.

Yes, congratulations! Who doesn't think he is one of the best coaches on the Island? He does more with less than any other coach out there. Just Imagine what he would be able to accomplish at one of the larger schools out there.

MORE WITH LESS, SERIOUSLY
YOU ARE CLUELESS

Please elaborate Mr/Ms Lacrosse Authority.

It has nothing to do with size of school. You only need 15 kids to go out and practice everyday. They buy into what he is doing which is the right stuff. Al is a solid coach that puts a lot of time in developing and game
Planning. If you have a group of kids that work hard and are not complacent you will be successful. This is what he does. Pretty simple
Formula. You can tell they work together a lot, and our on same page.

very good Coach but "doing more with less" is a bit of a stretch when you a fielding 12 -15 college bound lacrosse players every season.

Hey....I wish my daughters HS had the same type of coach..would sign take that coach in heartbeat!

Beat McDonogh? Don’t get carried away they beat Orange Crush a team primarily made up of McDonogh players. Small field so depth didn’t come into play as it would have if you actually played McDonogh. Also no draws, I believe McDonogh still has the best center mid in the country. Don’t get me wrong still a great win but The U hasn’t lost since 2009!

Hello... the “U” lost yesterday, TWICE!
Kudos to ESM and Mt Sinai.

And I am sure both ESM and Mt Sinai, as well as GC, would love to get a crack at a game against the U on a full field. Bring it!
LI not afraid to play them.

Just curious, how many on the Orange Crush team, stated in the program to be comprised of “primarily” McDonagh players, are NOT on the McDonagh team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

very good Coach but "doing more with less" is a bit of a stretch when you a fielding 12 -15 college bound lacrosse players every season.

Mt. Sinai graduates roughly 200 kids per class. He absolutely does more with less. The Mt, Sinai boys aren;t beating Smithtown West, Smithtown East, West Islip or Ward Melville anytime soon, It is the Coaching. All of those towns have the athletes and the larger schools have more of them. More with less.

They are all on the McDonough team. This is one of its weakest years in recent past but have a draw girl that wins 80% of draws to herself. You will see her at duke next year making an impact for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beat McDonogh? Don’t get carried away they beat Orange Crush a team primarily made up of McDonogh players. Small field so depth didn’t come into play as it would have if you actually played McDonogh. Also no draws, I believe McDonogh still has the best center mid in the country. Don’t get me wrong still a great win but The U hasn’t lost since 2009!

they lost twice on Sunday

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

So if some of Cleveland Browns beat some of the NewEngland Patriots in 2 hand touch you can say the Browns beat the Patriots? That’s Fn stupid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beat McDonogh? Don’t get carried away they beat Orange Crush a team primarily made up of McDonogh players. Small field so depth didn’t come into play as it would have if you actually played McDonogh. Also no draws, I believe McDonogh still has the best center mid in the country. Don’t get me wrong still a great win but The U hasn’t lost since 2009!

they lost twice on Sunday

And lost both draws during one of the games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if some of Cleveland Browns beat some of the NewEngland Patriots in 2 hand touch you can say the Browns beat the Patriots? That’s Fn stupid

So I'll propose this, instead of hiding down in MD. this year, playing teams like Milton, bring you entire Cleveland Browns team up to Long Island and play in the Gains for Brains event. If you can spend $30,000.00 for school, Fly your kids to Georgia and Vero Beach every year, than you can spend a couple of hundred extra dollars to fly into Mc Arthur and play the New England Patriots. Stop hiding and come prove your the best. But I'm sure you'll have some lame excuse. But until then we all know that all those girls were from "the U" and got beat by our girls, even if you can't admit it because it hurts your narrative

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

Yes, youth programs and (lacrosse) culture play a roll. However success at the HS level comes down to coaching. West Islip has had success because they have all three. GC, Manhasset and CHS also have all three. The Smithtowns and WM have two of the three.
Put Mt Sinai coach at Massapequa, Smithtown East, Smithtown West or Ward Melville and those programs will be as dominant as Garden City.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

very good Coach but "doing more with less" is a bit of a stretch when you a fielding 12 -15 college bound lacrosse players every season.

Mt. Sinai graduates roughly 200 kids per class. He absolutely does more with less. The Mt, Sinai boys aren;t beating Smithtown West, Smithtown East, West Islip or Ward Melville anytime soon, It is the Coaching. All of those towns have the athletes and the larger schools have more of them. More with less.

donkey, size of class means nothing. Their youth program is bigger and does more than the larger schools. They have more playing year round than any other school

If you can’t, or won’t, come to NY... NY will go to “the U” ... Shall we consider an invite to MS, ESM and GC in the mail for a round Robinson?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you can’t, or won’t, come to NY... NY will go to “the U” ... Shall we consider an invite to MS, ESM and GC in the mail for a round Robinson?

Eww Robinson?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you can’t, or won’t, come to NY... NY will go to “the U” ... Shall we consider an invite to MS, ESM and GC in the mail for a round Robinson?

Eww Robinson?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if some of Cleveland Browns beat some of the NewEngland Patriots in 2 hand touch you can say the Browns beat the Patriots? That’s Fn stupid

So I'll propose this, instead of hiding down in MD. this year, playing teams like Milton, bring you entire Cleveland Browns team up to Long Island and play in the Gains for Brains event. If you can spend $30,000.00 for school, Fly your kids to Georgia and Vero Beach every year, than you can spend a couple of hundred extra dollars to fly into Mc Arthur and play the New England Patriots. Stop hiding and come prove your the best. But I'm sure you'll have some lame excuse. But until then we all know that all those girls were from "the U" and got beat by our girls, even if you can't admit it because it hurts your narrative

I don't think the Mcdonogh parents are the ones talking negatively on here. I believe it is a jealous Long Island parent from one of the big schools. The Maryland parents were very nice and congratulated the L.I players. They were very classy and humble.

Definitely agree...Leave the Maryland parents out of YOUR trash talk. I am a long Island parent, this WAS not their attitude

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you can’t, or won’t, come to NY... NY will go to “the U” ... Shall we consider an invite to MS, ESM and GC in the mail for a round Robinson?

Eww Robinson?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if some of Cleveland Browns beat some of the NewEngland Patriots in 2 hand touch you can say the Browns beat the Patriots? That’s Fn stupid

So I'll propose this, instead of hiding down in MD. this year, playing teams like Milton, bring you entire Cleveland Browns team up to Long Island and play in the Gains for Brains event. If you can spend $30,000.00 for school, Fly your kids to Georgia and Vero Beach every year, than you can spend a couple of hundred extra dollars to fly into Mc Arthur and play the New England Patriots. Stop hiding and come prove your the best. But I'm sure you'll have some lame excuse. But until then we all know that all those girls were from "the U" and got beat by our girls, even if you can't admit it because it hurts your narrative

I don't think the Mcdonogh parents are the ones talking negatively on here. I believe it is a jealous Long Island parent from one of the big schools. The Maryland parents were very nice and congratulated the L.I players. They were very classy and humble.

Yes I even typed still a great win just is off base to say you beat The U. A undefeated team for going on a decade because you beat some of there players in a game that somewhat resembles the real thing. Its not my narrative that in question here....

Let's bring back the MD-NY Challenge … last played in 2012 and held at the St. Paul's School for Girls. Would be great lacrosse for everyone involved. This year might not be doable because the schedules are already set, but no time like the present to get the ball rolling on next year's schedule. Let's plan it… Bert, you da man! Have your people contact their people, you can make it happen!

I might even suggest making it a fundraiser to benefit the Charm City Youth Lacrosse or the Baltimore Youth Lacrosse organizations to help build and support the growth of the great game of lacrosse in Baltimore's less fortunate areas.

sounds great. why don't you organize it?

McDonough will never come up to play in N.Y. because the chance of losing is to big, thats why they play Milton and Vero Beach. Maybe the IMAA-1 isn't as good as IL, US lax and lax power thinks, just closer to Baltimore where they are all based. Keep saying that Orange Crush team wasn't all McD, maybe someone will believe you, Keep telling yourself it isn't real lax, Maybe your girls just can't play a run and gun game? better call all your cronies at U.S. lax and make sure they don't do away with the draw like they've been saying. Even if a couple of girls weren't from McD they were all certainly from the IMAA-1, but we all know they were all from McD. I'll say it again, every year you get the invite to Gains for Brains and you cop out. Darian, Mt. Sinai, Garden City, Manhasset, Moorstown, Bridgewater Raritan, ESM, Ridgewood all attend, some of the best teams in the country, but no McDonough, too busy hiding in Georgia and Florida. Whats the excuse this year other than too afraid to lose

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

What's all this talk about needing 15 good players, 3-4 players and a good goalie will dominate most games. HS lax is no different then PAL, you have 3-4 players that the coach rides until they drop. A solid goalie, a good defender, two middies and an attack is all you need atThe HS level to win consistently, some teams actually do it with less

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

What's all this talk about needing 15 good players, 3-4 players and a good goalie will dominate most games. HS lax is no different then PAL, you have 3-4 players that the coach rides until they drop. A solid goalie, a good defender, two middies and an attack is all you need atThe HS level to win consistently, some teams actually do it with less

And some coaches are so bad they can't win with 10 + solid players. I still say He must be a very good coach.

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

You are a pompous jerk! There is nothing wrong with a public school education. Many intelligent people graduate from Public school and move on to be your private school little prisses boss. Get over yourself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

You have a lot better chance of finding 15 good lax players at a school with 2000 graduates than a school with 200 graduates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are all on the McDonough team. This is one of its weakest years in recent past but have a draw girl that wins 80% of draws to herself. You will see her at duke next year making an impact for sure.

It must be a REALLY weak year for McDonough as these are certainly not the strongest of years for Mt. Sinai or ESM either.

All of this talk of McDonogh losing is crazy talk. This was a 7v7 indoor tournament, with two draws in the game, and not even half of their team there. McDonogh will eventually lose. Everyone does eventually. But the loss will come in the IAAM, not by a NY team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

First is this a joke, you lost to a team that McD beat up so stop acting like you were the best team there. The results of an indoor 7 on 7 do not exactly translate into beating them at a regulation game. What the results of the 7 on 7 do indicate is that LI has some very good players and teams in all the classes. LI had A,B,C,D teams at the event and they all represented LI well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

First is this a joke, you lost to a team that McD beat up so stop acting like you were the best team there. The results of an indoor 7 on 7 do not exactly translate into beating them at a regulation game. What the results of the 7 on 7 do indicate is that LI has some very good players and teams in all the classes. LI had A,B,C,D teams at the event and they all represented LI well.

First of all I don't recall anyone saying that they thought ESM was the best team there. 2nd of all ESM came with their whole team and played their whole team even switching goalies at halftime during their 1 goal loss. Hmm now that you mention It, I think ESM may have been the best team there!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

First is this a joke, you lost to a team that McD beat up so stop acting like you were the best team there. The results of an indoor 7 on 7 do not exactly translate into beating them at a regulation game. What the results of the 7 on 7 do indicate is that LI has some very good players and teams in all the classes. LI had A,B,C,D teams at the event and they all represented LI well.

Not a joke, factual statement about one game. Didn't mention any of the other games. Didn't say ESM was the best there. Didn't say they would beat them anytime anywhere. Just saying ESMs win in THAT game was more impressive then MS win later in the day (my opinion). You're right, you can't use a 7 on 7 as anything more then what it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are all on the McDonough team. This is one of its weakest years in recent past but have a draw girl that wins 80% of draws to herself. You will see her at duke next year making an impact for sure.

It must be a REALLY weak year for McDonough as these are certainly not the strongest of years for Mt. Sinai or ESM either.

Very strong year for ESM. Don't know what you're talking about. No selfish players on ESM anymore...should be a great season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of this talk of McDonogh losing is crazy talk. This was a 7v7 indoor tournament, with two draws in the game, and not even half of their team there. McDonogh will eventually lose. Everyone does eventually. But the loss will come in the IAAM, not by a NY team.

Thats because you're afraid to come here and play us. You wold rather go beat Vero and Milton by 15 every year than play a good N.Y. team and Maybe lose.You obnoxious prep school families couldn't handle loosing to a lowly public school. If IMAA is so much better, why couldn't your half team beat our half team? Why does it matter how many draws there were, can't you win without them? The IMAA is nothing but hype until you come to the Island and prove otherwise. Stop hiding in florida and Georgia. What are you going to do next , go play teams i Texas and Iowa while still claiming to be "the U". You're only "the U" of hype and hiding

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

So are the suffolk rankings out hrt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

UVA seems to like them tall and ND also

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country
every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

First is this a joke, you lost to a team that McD beat up so stop acting like you were the best team there. The results of an indoor 7 on 7 do not exactly translate into beating them at a regulation game. What the results of the 7 on 7 do indicate is that LI has some very good players and teams in all the classes. LI had A,B,C,D teams at the event and they all represented LI well.

Not a joke, factual statement about one game. Didn't mention any of the other games. Didn't say ESM was the best there. Didn't say they would beat them anytime anywhere. Just saying ESMs win in THAT game was more impressive then MS win later in the day (my opinion). You're right, you can't use a 7 on 7 as anything more then what it is.

Maybe McD knew the fact they did not need to win the ESM game so they played a lot of players that generally don’t play as much .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country
every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

First is this a joke, you lost to a team that McD beat up so stop acting like you were the best team there. The results of an indoor 7 on 7 do not exactly translate into beating them at a regulation game. What the results of the 7 on 7 do indicate is that LI has some very good players and teams in all the classes. LI had A,B,C,D teams at the event and they all represented LI well.

Not a joke, factual statement about one game. Didn't mention any of the other games. Didn't say ESM was the best there. Didn't say they would beat them anytime anywhere. Just saying ESMs win in THAT game was more impressive then MS win later in the day (my opinion). You're right, you can't use a 7 on 7 as anything more then what it is.

Maybe McD knew the fact they did not need to win the ESM game so they played a lot of players that generally don’t play as much .

Nice try... but Mcdonogh only had 3 subs...... keep reaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Hight has nothing to do with it. Some parents Don't get it.

Yes, "The Profile" at the top programs is: you have to be really good.

When you drop to the next tier the coaches take what they can get and for the most part they do not get the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

First is this a joke, you lost to a team that McD beat up so stop acting like you were the best team there. The results of an indoor 7 on 7 do not exactly translate into beating them at a regulation game. What the results of the 7 on 7 do indicate is that LI has some very good players and teams in all the classes. LI had A,B,C,D teams at the event and they all represented LI well.

First of all I don't recall anyone saying that they thought ESM was the best team there. 2nd of all ESM came with their whole team and played their whole team even switching goalies at halftime during their 1 goal loss. Hmm now that you mention It, I think ESM may have been the best team there!

What a tragic loss to the lax community, “the best team there” did not make the playoffs. Sincerely hope Inside Lacrosse starts an inquiry on this mess!! Maybe they should just hand ESM next years troohy now and save everyone the travel expense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man you dont read so good must be that public school Education. “Primarily made up of” is a quote of how IL described all the teams ie:“Mustangs (comprised primarily of Mt Sinai N.Y.)”. No one has said that OC was not all McD girls they just weren’t ALL THE McD girls.

As far as why McD or really any MD team doesn’t play the NY teams I personally have no knowledge of the different conference rules or the logistics of it- I’m just a parent.

IAAM and NY class1-2 are both the top two conferences in the country every year. The difference between all those great teams you listed and McD is McD has gone undefeated since 09. Don’t believe any of the schools you listed have even come close to that. They will lose eventually maybe to a NY team maybe not, but when it happens the will go down in history as the greatest lacrosse dynasty ever.

You know what if you want to say “Mt Sinai beat McDonogh” go ahead have at it. But your the only one believe that..

Who cares about My. Sinai beating "Mcdonogh " by 1 goal. ESM beat "Mcdonogh " by 6 goals!

Agreed. They didn't just beat them by six, they were up 4 to 1 minutes into the game and never let the gap close. They won both draws and played a paced, strategic game at times up by 8 goals.

First is this a joke, you lost to a team that McD beat up so stop acting like you were the best team there. The results of an indoor 7 on 7 do not exactly translate into beating them at a regulation game. What the results of the 7 on 7 do indicate is that LI has some very good players and teams in all the classes. LI had A,B,C,D teams at the event and they all represented LI well.

First of all I don't recall anyone saying that they thought ESM was the best team there. 2nd of all ESM came with their whole team and played their whole team even switching goalies at halftime during their 1 goal loss. Hmm now that you mention It, I think ESM may have been the best team there!

What a tragic loss to the lax community, “the best team there” did not make the playoffs. Sincerely hope Inside Lacrosse starts an inquiry on this mess!! Maybe they should just hand ESM next years troohy now and save everyone the travel expense.

Good idea!!

When is the Mount Sinai v. ESM show down to see which one is better?

[quote=Anonymous]When is the Mount Sinai v. ESM show down to see which one is better?

Whenever ESM wants to come down on a Monday night to KK. We'll be there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

You have a lot better chance of finding 15 good lax players at a school with 2000 graduates than a school with 200 graduates.

There's not a school on LI that has more than 5 good players (IE game changers) much less 15, it's just the reality of HS sports. Pequa has a great middie and goalie and not much else they will win Nassau and probably LI championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When is the Mount Sinai v. ESM show down to see which one is better?

Whenever ESM wants to come down on a Monday night to KK. We'll be there

Are you the Coach or AD? Cause you sure do like inviting teams down to play

another jerk that says "we" when talking about the team...girls must love you hanging around the locker rom...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

Not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are all on the McDonough team. This is one of its weakest years in recent past but have a draw girl that wins 80% of draws to herself. You will see her at duke next year making an impact for sure.

It must be a REALLY weak year for McDonough as these are certainly not the strongest of years for Mt. Sinai or ESM either.

Very strong year for ESM. Don't know what you're talking about. No selfish players on ESM anymore...should be a great season!

Of course that's how you feel. Because you watched the girls of years past "not include" your daughter, they were selfish. Those girls left and now the younger girls feel the same way about your daughter. The only thing that has changed is your perspective because of your daughters increased involvement. So from an outsiders perspective familiar with ESM for the last 8-9 years, I will say again, this is certainly not their strongest year. But that's the thing, human nature makes people think that what they are personally involved in, is the best thing ever. CC is a stud, fun to watch. enjoy while it lasts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

Not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Right on the money with this post. If you can play, they will recruit you. Great players come in many shapes and sizes. A coach that recruits a certain type is going to have a deficiency on their roster in one area or another. Even the best goalies off LI in the recent past Giaccolone, Van Middelum, Resnick all under 5'5".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15'
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

Not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Right on the money with this post. If you can play, they will recruit you. Great players come in many shapes and sizes. A coach that recruits a certain type is going to have a deficiency on their roster in one area or another. Even the best goalies off LI in the recent past Giaccolone, Van Middelum, Resnick all under 5'5".

Yes, I should have included the the goalies as well.

Nope, just someone who would like to see players prove it on the field, rather than have their parents, living vicariously through their kids, trash talk very talented players from NY and MD (and others) on a meaningless blog

The only thing ESM will win this year is craziest parents especially the moms . No selfish players is the funniest thing I have heard all week, the whole team is head down go to goal .Very talented players but generally a nightmare to play with many of those kids and even worse to be on the sidelines with the crazy moms. The B division is weak in section xi but look for GC to beat them in the LI championship unless they change the rules and the game is played with multiple balls at one time .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, just someone who would like to see players prove it on the field, rather than have their parents, living vicariously through their kids, trash talk very talented players from NY and MD (and others) on a meaningless blog

Why are you on this meaningless blog....hmm!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only thing ESM will win this year is craziest parents especially the moms . No selfish players is the funniest thing I have heard all week, the whole team is head down go to goal .Very talented players but generally a nightmare to play with many of those kids and even worse to be on the sidelines with the crazy moms. The B division is weak in section xi but look for GC to beat them in the LI championship unless they change the rules and the game is played with multiple balls at one time .

The whole team, head down, go to goal?? Don't know about that one. Might want to rethink that oh and green is not a good color for you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15'
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

Not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Right on the money with this post. If you can play, they will recruit you. Great players come in many shapes and sizes. A coach that recruits a certain type is going to have a deficiency on their roster in one area or another. Even the best goalies off LI in the recent past Giaccolone, Van Middelum, Resnick all under 5'5".

Yes, I should have included the the goalies as well.

Wow you are scary...u need a job or something. Who has time to compile all that info?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15'
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

Not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Right on the money with this post. If you can play, they will recruit you. Great players come in many shapes and sizes. A coach that recruits a certain type is going to have a deficiency on their roster in one area or another. Even the best goalies off LI in the recent past Giaccolone, Van Middelum, Resnick all under 5'5".

Yes, I should have included the the goalies as well.

Wow you are scary...u need a job or something. Who has time to compile all that info?

Doubt it took much time at all. I have daughters in two of the classes listed (not named) and they have played with and against most of those girls for years. I could have named 80 - 90 percent off the top of my head (as could many who frequent this site). The lacrosse community on the island is pretty small. Now go troll for your next negative post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15'
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

Not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Right on the money with this post. If you can play, they will recruit you. Great players come in many shapes and sizes. A coach that recruits a certain type is going to have a deficiency on their roster in one area or another. Even the best goalies off LI in the recent past Giaccolone, Van Middelum, Resnick all under 5'5".

Yes, I should have included the the goalies as well.

Wow you are scary...u need a job or something. Who has time to compile all that info?

Doubt it took much time at all. I have daughters in two of the classes listed (not named) and they have played with and against most of those girls for years. I could have named 80 - 90 percent off the top of my head (as could many who frequent this site). The lacrosse community on the island is pretty small. Now go troll for your next negative post.

Those lists are pretty good, could add or drop a couple, and move a few in order, but still pretty good. Since I am familiar with all the years, I do find it interesting that a few of these years had some of the early recruits that were supposed to be top of the age groups when they committed, and now you really don't hear about them much, not just this silly list, but overall in lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Great post. As a parent of a "vertically challenged" daughter who is attending a very good lax school, you are right on the money. Many people told her (and me) that she couldn't get there. And yet there she is. I would say her biggest attribute in addition to some of those you mentioned, and often overlooked by the casual observer, but not the coaches, is lax IQ. Call it what you want, being in the right place at the right time, understanding spacing, making the players around you better by clearing out or screening effectively... those things get you on the field if you also have some of those other physical attributes. You don't have to be 5'8" to do those things well.

Now trolls go ahead and start attacking. Yes I'm proud of my daughter. I hope all of you are proud of yours as well. The reality is it isn't a zero sum game. You don't have to tear others down to lift yourself up. I'm proud of all the hardworking lax girls out there that make it a great game to play and watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Great post. As a parent of a "vertically challenged" daughter who is attending a very good lax school, you are right on the money. Many people told her (and me) that she couldn't get there. And yet there she is. I would say her biggest attribute in addition to some of those you mentioned, and often overlooked by the casual observer, but not the coaches, is lax IQ. Call it what you want, being in the right place at the right time, understanding spacing, making the players around you better by clearing out or screening effectively... those things get you on the field if you also have some of those other physical attributes. You don't have to be 5'8" to do those things well.

Now trolls go ahead and start attacking. Yes I'm proud of my daughter. I hope all of you are proud of yours as well. The reality is it isn't a zero sum game. You don't have to tear others down to lift yourself up. I'm proud of all the hardworking lax girls out there that make it a great game to play and watch.

Wow, 2 of the best posts I have ever seen in this board! Thank you both for your insight it is very much appreciated. (My daughter is not tall either) and I appreciate your input.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Great post. As a parent of a "vertically challenged" daughter who is attending a very good lax school, you are right on the money. Many people told her (and me) that she couldn't get there. And yet there she is. I would say her biggest attribute in addition to some of those you mentioned, and often overlooked by the casual observer, but not the coaches, is lax IQ. Call it what you want, being in the right place at the right time, understanding spacing, making the players around you better by clearing out or screening effectively... those things get you on the field if you also have some of those other physical attributes. You don't have to be 5'8" to do those things well.

Now trolls go ahead and start attacking. Yes I'm proud of my daughter. I hope all of you are proud of yours as well. The reality is it isn't a zero sum game. You don't have to tear others down to lift yourself up. I'm proud of all the hardworking lax girls out there that make it a great game to play and watch.

Wow, 2 of the best posts I have ever seen in this board! Thank you both for your insight it is very much appreciated. (My daughter is not tall either) and I appreciate your input.

Yes, I'm actually kind of impressed. No trash talking and no putting down others.
I would also like to point out to the original poster that there are other factors apart from height and size. They said they were getting recruiting advice from the parent of a 2019 who was looking this past summer. Well, for the 2019's - if they are still looking at the top tier schools - they may want to adjust their expectations. Either that or the schools they are looking at could pretty well be done and the coach was just looking for "a tall draw middie" and that parent misunderstood that conversation. As someone had pointed out earlier - good things come in different sized packages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When is the Mount Sinai v. ESM show down to see which one is better?

Saturday, April 28th 12:00 noon at Mt. Sinai

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

Would also like to add that several of these heights, especially some of the 5-5" girls are probably over stated by an inch or so (funny how 5'4" and 5'5" is about the point in which many consider the cut off between short and average for lax, when in reality it makes little difference). Weeks sisters and K Miller are closer to 5'4", Fredricks probably 5-5", but who ever heard of a draw girl who is 5'5" or less (sarcasm, she's great) , I would say there are more Div 1 players at 5'5" and down than there are at 5'6" and up. Core and leg strength (which equates to speed, power presence and toughness on a lax field) has more to do with dictating level of collegiate play than height does. Different heights may necessitate different styles of play. But like any "physical gifts"an athlete is born with: height, natural speed, and athleticism, it comes down to how hard a player works. Players not born with these may have to work harder and smarter, and excel in different ways, and many will ultimately catch up if the right work ethic is there in speed/strength. Soccer is a sport in which people will compare athletes to lax players collegiately, but soccer players tend to run taller the higher levels you go, as in several other female collegiate sports, but lax is more of an exception, especially because, in addition to the athletic aspect, there is a highly specialized skill set that without those skills no level of athleticism will help an inadequately skilled player.

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15'
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

Not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Right on the money with this post. If you can play, they will recruit you. Great players come in many shapes and sizes. A coach that recruits a certain type is going to have a deficiency on their roster in one area or another. Even the best goalies off LI in the recent past Giaccolone, Van Middelum, Resnick all under 5'5".

[/quote]

Doubt it took much time at all. I have daughters in two of the classes listed (not named) and they have played with and against most of those girls for years. I could have named 80 - 90 percent off the top of my head (as could many who frequent this site). The lacrosse community on the island is pretty small. Now go troll for your next negative post.[/quote]

Those lists are pretty good, could add or drop a couple, and move a few in order, but still pretty good. Since I am familiar with all the years, I do find it interesting that a few of these years had some of the early recruits that were supposed to be top of the age groups when they committed, and now you really don't hear about them much, not just this silly list, but overall in lacrosse.
[/quote]

Oh stop already. Take your passive aggressive [ChillLaxin] and crawl back into your hole. The post intended to answer a question and help someone by illustrating that the majority of the top college programs in the country "do not" use "the profile" in question when recruiting. The answer clearly demonstrated (with reality and fact) that a players hight has very little (if anything) to do with a players ability. The answer also illustrated that the just about all of the top players on Long Island in recent years have been of average hight.

Your comments: "add a couple or drop a couple" and "move a few in order" are transparent. It appears the order is random (not a ranking). Anyone who follows lacrosse and has daughter in one or more the classes mentioned knows that those young women are/were considered to be some of the top recruits on Long Island (yes, there were a couple more not mentioned). My guess is that you are one of the hater parents who always look to tear down others while make excuses when your daughter is not on a list or when she didn't get recruited by the top programs. Just like the guy who said that his daughter "didn't fit the profile" as the reason why she wasn't recruited by a particular school (I doubt every recruit was tall). Your attempt to belittle the players mentioned with your "silly list" comment was also transparent.

Just about all of those players are currently Kicking A@@ and we wish them well. I'm sure that if any are struggling you will have a smile on your face and waste no time in letting everybody know.

Go away troll, go back to your hole plan your next attempt to tear down hard working young women.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Great post. As a parent of a "vertically challenged" daughter who is attending a very good lax school, you are right on the money. Many people told her (and me) that she couldn't get there. And yet there she is. I would say her biggest attribute in addition to some of those you mentioned, and often overlooked by the casual observer, but not the coaches, is lax IQ. Call it what you want, being in the right place at the right time, understanding spacing, making the players around you better by clearing out or screening effectively... those things get you on the field if you also have some of those other physical attributes. You don't have to be 5'8" to do those things well.

Now trolls go ahead and start attacking. Yes I'm proud of my daughter. I hope all of you are proud of yours as well. The reality is it isn't a zero sum game. You don't have to tear others down to lift yourself up. I'm proud of all the hardworking lax girls out there that make it a great game to play and watch.

Wow, 2 of the best posts I have ever seen in this board! Thank you both for your insight it is very much appreciated. (My daughter is not tall either) and I appreciate your input.

Yes, I'm actually kind of impressed. No trash talking and no putting down others.
I would also like to point out to the original poster that there are other factors apart from height and size. They said they were getting recruiting advice from the parent of a 2019 who was looking this past summer. Well, for the 2019's - if they are still looking at the top tier schools - they may want to adjust their expectations. Either that or the schools they are looking at could pretty well be done and the coach was just looking for "a tall draw middie" and that parent misunderstood that conversation. As someone had pointed out earlier - good things come in different sized packages.

As the post mentions (shelby Fredricks) Hight is not so important on the Draw either. Technique, strength, quickness, athleticism and IQ are more important. Having great teammates on the circle helps as well ; - )

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Here are the top Long Island players from the 15, 16, 17 and 18 Classes. (Yes, I know there are many good players.. but by most accounts these are the top in each class) If a coach is excluding due to hight (or lack thereof) they are only hurting themselves.

15's
Niki Ortega - Notre Dame - 5-6
Sam Apuzzo - Boston College - 5-6
Sydney Pirecca - Florida - 5-2
Nicole Levy - Syracuse - 5-2
Clair Quinn - Northwestern - 5-10
Lindsey Ronbeck - Florida 5-4

16's
Kerrigan Miller - USC - 5-5
Kaelie Huff - USC - 5-6
Niki Sliwack - Maryland - 5-4
Katie Hoeg - UNC - 5-11
Cara Trombetta - Florida 5-4
Erin Barry - Penn - 5-6
Taryn Ohlmiller - Stony Brook - 5-7

17's
Jamie Ortega - UNC - 5-5
Kelsey Huff - USC - 5-4
Shannon Kavanagh - Florida - 5-7
Sophia Triandafilis - Penn State - 5-7
Olivia Smith - Penn - 5-5
Kate Katowski - UNC - 5-6

18's
Madison Rielly - Maryland - 5-5
Courtney Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Cassidy Weeks - Boston College - 5-5
Shannon Berry - Princeton - 5-5
Emerson Cabrera - Florida - 5-7
Jen Medjid - Boston College - 5-4

BTW , KO who is considered by many to be the best college player in the country is all of 5'3". ( I bet UVA and ND wish they had her)
Shayla Pirecca 5'4". Shelby Fredricks who kills it on the Draw is 5'6".

athleticism , speed, quickness , aggressiveness , effort, energy , attitude , skill, coachablity, versatility all play a greater roll in the recruiting process than does hight.

All of those girls were recruited by the top programs in the country and only a few would be considered tall.

not sure how tall your daughter is but wanted you to see some facts rather than listen to one persons opinion.

Good luck to your daughter. Hit the books and have here work on her skill and athleticism. Hustle.

Great post. As a parent of a "vertically challenged" daughter who is attending a very good lax school, you are right on the money. Many people told her (and me) that she couldn't get there. And yet there she is. I would say her biggest attribute in addition to some of those you mentioned, and often overlooked by the casual observer, but not the coaches, is lax IQ. Call it what you want, being in the right place at the right time, understanding spacing, making the players around you better by clearing out or screening effectively... those things get you on the field if you also have some of those other physical attributes. You don't have to be 5'8" to do those things well.

Now trolls go ahead and start attacking. Yes I'm proud of my daughter. I hope all of you are proud of yours as well. The reality is it isn't a zero sum game. You don't have to tear others down to lift yourself up. I'm proud of all the hardworking lax girls out there that make it a great game to play and watch.

Wow, 2 of the best posts I have ever seen in this board! Thank you both for your insight it is very much appreciated. (My daughter is not tall either) and I appreciate your input.

Yes, I'm actually kind of impressed. No trash talking and no putting down others.
I would also like to point out to the original poster that there are other factors apart from height and size. They said they were getting recruiting advice from the parent of a 2019 who was looking this past summer. Well, for the 2019's - if they are still looking at the top tier schools - they may want to adjust their expectations. Either that or the schools they are looking at could pretty well be done and the coach was just looking for "a tall draw middie" and that parent misunderstood that conversation. As someone had pointed out earlier - good things come in different sized packages.

As the post mentions (shelby Fredricks) Hight is not so important on the Draw either. Technique, strength, quickness, athleticism and IQ are more important. Having great teammates on the circle helps as well ; - )

It's spelled height and I agree.

A few observations:

1: The haters will come out no matter what.

2: The grammar and spelling police will also be at the ready.

3. Year in and year out the top college programs recruit the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A few observations:

1: The haters will come out no matter what.

2: The grammar and spelling police will also be at the ready.

3. Year in and year out the top college programs recruit the best players.

True dat

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts".

It is amazing to see all of the bitterness come out and watch the haters carry on because their daughter was not mentioned. As far as "size" goes, that was the point of the whole thing. The best college coaches from the best college programs recruited the girls that were listed. Sorry, but if your daughter is 5'8 or 5'10" and you think that height gives her an advantage or makes her better you are most likely wrong (not knocking height but it really is not a factor). Now, if she is also has great skills, is really fast, has a high IQ, hustles all over the field and North Carolina, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Florida etc... all made offers then maybe you have an argument. The original post also said "there are many good players" ... we all know that there are a few more than six per class that are considered "top recruits" from Long Island (but not many more).

Getting back to the point, the facts speak for themselves. The players listed are all excellent players who have been recognized by the top college coaches, UA, IL, USA lacrosse and others as being the top players from Long Island in their respective age group/classes. Their height had nothing to do with the recruiting process.

You can argue all you want and mock the players and the person who posted the response but again the facts are the facts, All of the players were "recruited" by the top programs in the country and the players height was not a factor. That is what the original post was pointing out to the person who asked the question.

How about top 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts".

It is amazing to see all of the bitterness come out and watch the haters carry on because their daughter was not mentioned. As far as "size" goes, that was the point of the whole thing. The best college coaches from the best college programs recruited the girls that were listed. Sorry, but if your daughter is 5'8 or 5'10" and you think that height gives her an advantage or makes her better you are most likely wrong (not knocking height but it really is not a factor). Now, if she is also has great skills, is really fast, has a high IQ, hustles all over the field and North Carolina, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Florida etc... all made offers then maybe you have an argument. The original post also said "there are many good players" ... we all know that there are a few more than six per class that are considered "top recruits" from Long Island (but not many more).

Getting back to the point, the facts speak for themselves. The players listed are all excellent players who have been recognized by the top college coaches, UA, IL, USA lacrosse and others as being the top players from Long Island in their respective age group/classes. Their height had nothing to do with the recruiting process.

You can argue all you want and mock the players and the person who posted the response but again the facts are the facts, All of the players were "recruited" by the top programs in the country and the players height was not a factor. That is what the original post was pointing out to the person who asked the question.

Haters gonna hate hate hate... players gonna play play play.

Coaches gonna pick pick pick

Forget logic, facts and reality. Delusional parents will do all that they can to tear down young women in an attempt to promote their own daughter. They will come up with countless reasons why their daughter didn't make a team, get recognized by IL or receive offers from the best programs none of which are true.Have you ever seen some of the Facebook posts that these maniacs put up? Comical, the bragging and self promoting of their daughters and teams are really funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts".

It is amazing to see all of the bitterness come out and watch the haters carry on because their daughter was not mentioned. As far as "size" goes, that was the point of the whole thing. The best college coaches from the best college programs recruited the girls that were listed. Sorry, but if your daughter is 5'8 or 5'10" and you think that height gives her an advantage or makes her better you are most likely wrong (not knocking height but it really is not a factor). Now, if she is also has great skills, is really fast, has a high IQ, hustles all over the field and North Carolina, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Florida etc... all made offers then maybe you have an argument. The original post also said "there are many good players" ... we all know that there are a few more than six per class that are considered "top recruits" from Long Island (but not many more).

Getting back to the point, the facts speak for themselves. The players listed are all excellent players who have been recognized by the top college coaches, UA, IL, USA lacrosse and others as being the top players from Long Island in their respective age group/classes. Their height had nothing to do with the recruiting process.

You can argue all you want and mock the players and the person who posted the response but again the facts are the facts, All of the players were "recruited" by the top programs in the country and the players height was not a factor. That is what the original post was pointing out to the person who asked the question.

If you want to bring posters daughters in this let me guess your short stature daughter is one of the players on the list and you are so insecure because she was never really a top player you now are overly sensitive when someone questions it.
You said correct you if you are wrong so here you go ,many of those listed were not listed as top recruits by inside lacrosse nor were they selected to play in the senior UA game. As far as being recruited by the top college programs some of those schools were not top college programs when they committed and many were told by other top programs that they were not interested etc.
In the end many programs do tend to take certain type players but of course do make exceptions. I generally would not make any list with names nor call anyone name out but just take k.o.as an example . I use her because I believe she is easily the best offensive player in the country but was not that highly recruited and yes she was a concern for some top programs , they may have been wrong but many top programs do consider size in their decisions:

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts".

It is amazing to see all of the bitterness come out and watch the haters carry on because their daughter was not mentioned. As far as "size" goes, that was the point of the whole thing. The best college coaches from the best college programs recruited the girls that were listed. Sorry, but if your daughter is 5'8 or 5'10" and you think that height gives her an advantage or makes her better you are most likely wrong (not knocking height but it really is not a factor). Now, if she is also has great skills, is really fast, has a high IQ, hustles all over the field and North Carolina, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Florida etc... all made offers then maybe you have an argument. The original post also said "there are many good players" ... we all know that there are a few more than six per class that are considered "top recruits" from Long Island (but not many more).

Getting back to the point, the facts speak for themselves. The players listed are all excellent players who have been recognized by the top college coaches, UA, IL, USA lacrosse and others as being the top players from Long Island in their respective age group/classes. Their height had nothing to do with the recruiting process.

You can argue all you want and mock the players and the person who posted the response but again the facts are the facts, All of the players were "recruited" by the top programs in the country and the players height was not a factor. That is what the original post was pointing out to the person who asked the question.

If you want to bring posters daughters in this let me guess your short stature daughter is one of the players on the list and you are so insecure because she was never really a top player you now are overly sensitive when someone questions it.
You said correct you if you are wrong so here you go ,many of those listed were not listed as top recruits by inside lacrosse nor were they selected to play in the senior UA game. As far as being recruited by the top college programs some of those schools were not top college programs when they committed and many were told by other top programs that they were not interested etc.
In the end many programs do tend to take certain type players but of course do make exceptions. I generally would not make any list with names nor call anyone name out but just take k.o.as an example . I use her because I believe she is easily the best offensive player in the country but was not that highly recruited and yes she was a concern for some top programs , they may have been wrong but many top programs do consider size in their decisions:

Poster child for hater. Do you hear yourself? You bitterness comes through loud and clear. You attempt to tear down players and college programs is nuts.

The post that started all of this was intended to help a parent. The post did not attack anyone or put anyone down. The post showed that many of the top players on the island were recruited by many of the top programs and the players height did not hinder them in the process.

As usual, the lunatics can't control themselves when their daughter is not mentioned so they attack the players , the programs and the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about top 2019

Why bother, we get the point, plenty of top kids are avg height...no need to stir it up anymore, unless you want to see your kids name in print.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts".

It is amazing to see all of the bitterness come out and watch the haters carry on because their daughter was not mentioned. As far as "size" goes, that was the point of the whole thing. The best college coaches from the best college programs recruited the girls that were listed. Sorry, but if your daughter is 5'8 or 5'10" and you think that height gives her an advantage or makes her better you are most likely wrong (not knocking height but it really is not a factor). Now, if she is also has great skills, is really fast, has a high IQ, hustles all over the field and North Carolina, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Florida etc... all made offers then maybe you have an argument. The original post also said "there are many good players" ... we all know that there are a few more than six per class that are considered "top recruits" from Long Island (but not many more).

Getting back to the point, the facts speak for themselves. The players listed are all excellent players who have been recognized by the top college coaches, UA, IL, USA lacrosse and others as being the top players from Long Island in their respective age group/classes. Their height had nothing to do with the recruiting process.

You can argue all you want and mock the players and the person who posted the response but again the facts are the facts, All of the players were "recruited" by the top programs in the country and the players height was not a factor. That is what the original post was pointing out to the person who asked the question.

If you want to bring posters daughters in this let me guess your short stature daughter is one of the players on the list and you are so insecure because she was never really a top player you now are overly sensitive when someone questions it.
You said correct you if you are wrong so here you go ,many of those listed were not listed as top recruits by inside lacrosse nor were they selected to play in the senior UA game. As far as being recruited by the top college programs some of those schools were not top college programs when they committed and many were told by other top programs that they were not interested etc.
In the end many programs do tend to take certain type players but of course do make exceptions. I generally would not make any list with names nor call anyone name out but just take k.o.as an example . I use her because I believe she is easily the best offensive player in the country but was not that highly recruited and yes she was a concern for some top programs , they may have been wrong but many top programs do consider size in their decisions:

Poster child for hater. Do you hear yourself? You bitterness comes through loud and clear. You attempt to tear down players and college programs is nuts.

The post that started all of this was intended to help a parent. The post did not attack anyone or put anyone down. The post showed that many of the top players on the island were recruited by many of the top programs and the players height did not hinder them in the process.

As usual, the lunatics can't control themselves when their daughter is not mentioned so they attack the players , the programs and the parents.

I get what your saying about the haters on this thread, but think of the flip side...it gets old listening to the parents of the superstars. Am i going out on a limb, thinking that a parent of one of those kids on the list, put it together? poster could have easily said height doesnt matter, a lot of smaller kids are really good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts".

It is amazing to see all of the bitterness come out and watch the haters carry on because their daughter was not mentioned. As far as "size" goes, that was the point of the whole thing. The best college coaches from the best college programs recruited the girls that were listed. Sorry, but if your daughter is 5'8 or 5'10" and you think that height gives her an advantage or makes her better you are most likely wrong (not knocking height but it really is not a factor). Now, if she is also has great skills, is really fast, has a high IQ, hustles all over the field and North Carolina, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Florida etc... all made offers then maybe you have an argument. The original post also said "there are many good players" ... we all know that there are a few more than six per class that are considered "top recruits" from Long Island (but not many more).

Getting back to the point, the facts speak for themselves. The players listed are all excellent players who have been recognized by the top college coaches, UA, IL, USA lacrosse and others as being the top players from Long Island in their respective age group/classes. Their height had nothing to do with the recruiting process.

You can argue all you want and mock the players and the person who posted the response but again the facts are the facts, All of the players were "recruited" by the top programs in the country and the players height was not a factor. That is what the original post was pointing out to the person who asked the question.

If you want to bring posters daughters in this let me guess your short stature daughter is one of the players on the list and you are so insecure because she was never really a top player you now are overly sensitive when someone questions it.
You said correct you if you are wrong so here you go ,many of those listed were not listed as top recruits by inside lacrosse nor were they selected to play in the senior UA game. As far as being recruited by the top college programs some of those schools were not top college programs when they committed and many were told by other top programs that they were not interested etc.
In the end many programs do tend to take certain type players but of course do make exceptions. I generally would not make any list with names nor call anyone name out but just take k.o.as an example . I use her because I believe she is easily the best offensive player in the country but was not that highly recruited and yes she was a concern for some top programs , they may have been wrong but many top programs do consider size in their decisions:

Poster child for hater. Do you hear yourself? You bitterness comes through loud and clear. You attempt to tear down players and college programs is nuts.

The post that started all of this was intended to help a parent. The post did not attack anyone or put anyone down. The post showed that many of the top players on the island were recruited by many of the top programs and the players height did not hinder them in the process.

As usual, the lunatics can't control themselves when their daughter is not mentioned so they attack the players , the programs and the parents.

I get what your saying about the haters on this thread, but think of the flip side...it gets old listening to the parents of the superstars. Am i going out on a limb, thinking that a parent of one of those kids on the list, put it together? poster could have easily said height doesnt matter, a lot of smaller kids are really good.

Maybe, but that would have been opinion and do you really think the nut jobs would have left that one alone?? Doubtful.

The list is factual and demonstrated to the parent who asked the question and who obviously had some concern regarding his/her daughter and the recruiting process. Whether or not the poster had a kid on the list is irrelevant, they did not attack, belittle or try to tear down any other players.The poster tried to dispel an inaccurate negative lie/rumor. It is once again the crazy parents who simply can not stand it if another player is recognized in some way and their daughter is not.

The post was accurate, factual and it provided helpful insight to someone who asked a question. The post was not out of the blue and did not name his/her daughter as a great player based on his/her opinion.

The haters came at it so many different ways all trying to discredit or diminish the post, the players and even the college programs.

It has been my experience that the worst parents are not those of the superstars but rather the parents that think their kid is a superstar (but is not). Watch them go crazy anytime another player gets recognition over their kid. They are delusional.

Have you ever watched or listened to these psychopaths? Tell them that a girl just committed to North Carolina and the first thing out of their mouth is "she will never see the field". Tell them a girl just committed to Maryland and they will say she will major in basket weaving. Tell them a girl committed to Penn and they will say of course she did, her parents can afford to pay. Tell them a girl committed to USC and they will tell you it is not a Top Program.

In one of the posts above the J#@* A^% says he is going to correct one of the posters and then he spews out misinformation and lies in an effort to discredit the girls who were named. If it were not so sad it would be funny.

They are jealous, bitter, haters who try to tear down, mock and discredit anytime a player other than their daughter has success. They even do it to teams, look at the way the crazy people go after some of the college programs on this site. it is bizarre.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about top 2019

2019 is a weak class and none of the top players are under 5' 7" so I could not use that class in order to illustrate my point. Also, I don't have a daughter in that class so would not be able to list her. Pointless to use the 2019 age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about top 2019

2019 is a weak class and none of the top players are under 5' 7" so I could not use that class in order to illustrate my point. Also, I don't have a daughter in that class so would not be able to list her. Pointless to use the 2019 age group.

You're an [ChillLaxin]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about top 2019

2019 is a weak class and none of the top players are under 5' 7" so I could not use that class in order to illustrate my point. Also, I don't have a daughter in that class so would not be able to list her. Pointless to use the 2019 age group.

You deem the 2019 because you don’t have a 2019 daughter. Lol. 2019 is very deep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about top 2019

2019 is a weak class and none of the top players are under 5' 7" so I could not use that class in order to illustrate my point. Also, I don't have a daughter in that class so would not be able to list her. Pointless to use the 2019 age group.

You're an [ChillLaxin]

I do have a 2019. She is not going to a top school but there are many from her club who are. And not all are tall. But quick aggressive and great iq

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about top 2019

2019 is a weak class and none of the top players are under 5' 7" so I could not use that class in order to illustrate my point. Also, I don't have a daughter in that class so would not be able to list her. Pointless to use the 2019 age group.

You deem the 2019 because you don’t have a 2019 daughter. Lol. 2019 is very deep.

The madness even clouds their ability to recognize sarcasm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem you have someone put names of kids that in their opinion were the top players then they add in something like "most accounts" when they have no clue . Go by UA senior AA and Inside lax ranking and stop with your personal opinion . As far as size ,all things being equal give me the bigger kid , thing is rarely are all things equal.

There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts".

It is amazing to see all of the bitterness come out and watch the haters carry on because their daughter was not mentioned. As far as "size" goes, that was the point of the whole thing. The best college coaches from the best college programs recruited the girls that were listed. Sorry, but if your daughter is 5'8 or 5'10" and you think that height gives her an advantage or makes her better you are most likely wrong (not knocking height but it really is not a factor). Now, if she is also has great skills, is really fast, has a high IQ, hustles all over the field and North Carolina, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Florida etc... all made offers then maybe you have an argument. The original post also said "there are many good players" ... we all know that there are a few more than six per class that are considered "top recruits" from Long Island (but not many more).

Getting back to the point, the facts speak for themselves. The players listed are all excellent players who have been recognized by the top college coaches, UA, IL, USA lacrosse and others as being the top players from Long Island in their respective age group/classes. Their height had nothing to do with the recruiting process.

You can argue all you want and mock the players and the person who posted the response but again the facts are the facts, All of the players were "recruited" by the top programs in the country and the players height was not a factor. That is what the original post was pointing out to the person who asked the question.

If you want to bring posters daughters in this let me guess your short stature daughter is one of the players on the list and you are so insecure because she was never really a top player you now are overly sensitive when someone questions it.
You said correct you if you are wrong so here you go ,many of those listed were not listed as top recruits by inside lacrosse nor were they selected to play in the senior UA game. As far as being recruited by the top college programs some of those schools were not top college programs when they committed and many were told by other top programs that they were not interested etc.
In the end many programs do tend to take certain type players but of course do make exceptions. I generally would not make any list with names nor call anyone name out but just take k.o.as an example . I use her because I believe she is easily the best offensive player in the country but was not that highly recruited and yes she was a concern for some top programs , they may have been wrong but many top programs do consider size in their decisions:

Where to begin?

1: The poster indicated that the "list / Names" were "by most accounts" some of the top players from Long Island. It was also pointed out that there were "many" good players. The list was not based on the posters opinion.

2. Yes, "All" of the players were identified by Inside Lacrosse as a top player. 22 of the 25 were ranked in the Top 30/40 by Inside Lacrosse and 3 were listed as a "player to watch".

3. All of the class of 2017 players on the list played in the UA Senior Game.
5 of the 7 class of 2016 players played in the UA Senior Game.
2 of the 6 class of 2015 played in the UA Senior Game 3 others were selected to play for Team USA at the U19 World Games. They all would have played in the UA game had there not been a conflict. So 5 of 6.
All 6 of the class of 2018 players played in the UA underclass games and it is a good bet that most if not all will be selected to compete in the UA Senior Game this year.

4. They are all excellent college programs.

Not only are you bitter, you lie as well. I guess the end justifies the means with people like you. Keep hating it becomes you.

Where to begin?

1: The poster indicated that the "list / Names" were "by most accounts" some of the top players from Long Island. It was also pointed out that there were "many" good players. The list was not based on the posters opinion.

2. Yes, "All" of the players were identified by Inside Lacrosse as a top player. 22 of the 25 were ranked in the Top 30/40 by Inside Lacrosse and 3 were listed as a "player to watch".

3. All of the class of 2017 players on the list played in the UA Senior Game.
5 of the 7 class of 2016 players played in the UA Senior Game.
2 of the 6 class of 2015 played in the UA Senior Game 3 others were selected to play for Team USA at the U19 World Games. They all would have played in the UA game had there not been a conflict. So 5 of 6.
All 6 of the class of 2018 players played in the UA underclass games and it is a good bet that most if not all will be selected to compete in the UA Senior Game this year.

4. They are all excellent college programs.

Not only are you bitter, you lie as well. I guess the end justifies the means with people like you. Keep hating it becomes you.

[/quote]

First off I just figured you were slow as you have no concept of what a fact is but now realize you just suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.
1) You changed the original from "Here are the top players " to now saying some of the top players . Not sure anyone would have a problem with saying some of the top players. Clearly the list was based on the posters opinion as that list exists no where else and was compiled based on the posters opinion ,just so you know thats a fact.
2)Lets just use 2016 as an example to keep it simple for you. A player on your list was not selected as a UA senior game participant,nor was she a top 50 inside lacrosse recruit while 2 other LI players were, yet neither of those players are on the list.
Everyone of the players on the list are excellent players and no one is saying they are not. My problem is essentially with posters like you and the list maker who feel the need to display their "superior" knowledge of the inner workings and thoughts of college coaches by stating "facts" when the only fact is they are clueless.There was zero reason for the original poster to list players names other than they just wanted to list their own kids name and yes that is a list they made up , its not a list of the UA seniors or the Inside lacrosse top recruits, or even just the US lacrosse all americans.
Its really not that difficult to figure out that coaches will take the size of a player into account along with many other attributes and yes there are certain programs that tend to favor certain attributes over others.

Does anyone know why Suffolk never established a power conference ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where to begin?

1: The poster indicated that the "list / Names" were "by most accounts" some of the top players from Long Island. It was also pointed out that there were "many" good players. The list was not based on the posters opinion.

2. Yes, "All" of the players were identified by Inside Lacrosse as a top player. 22 of the 25 were ranked in the Top 30/40 by Inside Lacrosse and 3 were listed as a "player to watch".

3. All of the class of 2017 players on the list played in the UA Senior Game.
5 of the 7 class of 2016 players played in the UA Senior Game.
2 of the 6 class of 2015 played in the UA Senior Game 3 others were selected to play for Team USA at the U19 World Games. They all would have played in the UA game had there not been a conflict. So 5 of 6.
All 6 of the class of 2018 players played in the UA underclass games and it is a good bet that most if not all will be selected to compete in the UA Senior Game this year.

4. They are all excellent college programs.

Not only are you bitter, you lie as well. I guess the end justifies the means with people like you. Keep hating it becomes you.

First off I just figured you were slow as you have no concept of what a fact is but now realize you just suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.
1) You changed the original from "Here are the top players " to now saying some of the top players . Not sure anyone would have a problem with saying some of the top players. Clearly the list was based on the posters opinion as that list exists no where else and was compiled based on the posters opinion ,just so you know thats a fact.
2)Lets just use 2016 as an example to keep it simple for you. A player on your list was not selected as a UA senior game participant,nor was she a top 50 inside lacrosse recruit while 2 other LI players were, yet neither of those players are on the list.
Everyone of the players on the list are excellent players and no one is saying they are not. My problem is essentially with posters like you and the list maker who feel the need to display their "superior" knowledge of the inner workings and thoughts of college coaches by stating "facts" when the only fact is they are clueless.There was zero reason for the original poster to list players names other than they just wanted to list their own kids name and yes that is a list they made up , its not a list of the UA seniors or the Inside lacrosse top recruits, or even just the US lacrosse all americans.
Its really not that difficult to figure out that coaches will take the size of a player into account along with many other attributes and yes there are certain programs that tend to favor certain attributes over others. [/quote] Aren't you also displaying your "superior knowledge" of the inner working and thoughts college coaches? or is that just not opinion? Seems a little hypocritical of you don't you think

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where to begin?

1: The poster indicated that the "list / Names" were "by most accounts" some of the top players from Long Island. It was also pointed out that there were "many" good players. The list was not based on the posters opinion.

2. Yes, "All" of the players were identified by Inside Lacrosse as a top player. 22 of the 25 were ranked in the Top 30/40 by Inside Lacrosse and 3 were listed as a "player to watch".

3. All of the class of 2017 players on the list played in the UA Senior Game.
5 of the 7 class of 2016 players played in the UA Senior Game.
2 of the 6 class of 2015 played in the UA Senior Game 3 others were selected to play for Team USA at the U19 World Games. They all would have played in the UA game had there not been a conflict. So 5 of 6.
All 6 of the class of 2018 players played in the UA underclass games and it is a good bet that most if not all will be selected to compete in the UA Senior Game this year.

4. They are all excellent college programs.

Not only are you bitter, you lie as well. I guess the end justifies the means with people like you. Keep hating it becomes you.

First off I just figured you were slow as you have no concept of what a fact is but now realize you just suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.
1) You changed the original from "Here are the top players " to now saying some of the top players . Not sure anyone would have a problem with saying some of the top players. Clearly the list was based on the posters opinion as that list exists no where else and was compiled based on the posters opinion ,just so you know thats a fact.
2)Lets just use 2016 as an example to keep it simple for you. A player on your list was not selected as a UA senior game participant,nor was she a top 50 inside lacrosse recruit while 2 other LI players were, yet neither of those players are on the list.
Everyone of the players on the list are excellent players and no one is saying they are not. My problem is essentially with posters like you and the list maker who feel the need to display their "superior" knowledge of the inner workings and thoughts of college coaches by stating "facts" when the only fact is they are clueless.There was zero reason for the original poster to list players names other than they just wanted to list their own kids name and yes that is a list they made up , its not a list of the UA seniors or the Inside lacrosse top recruits, or even just the US lacrosse all americans.
Its really not that difficult to figure out that coaches will take the size of a player into account along with many other attributes and yes there are certain programs that tend to favor certain attributes over others.

Aren't you also displaying your "superior knowledge" of the inner working and thoughts college coaches? or is that just not opinion? Seems a little hypocritical of you don't you think[/quote]
Ok so who is missing from the list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where to begin?

1: The poster indicated that the "list / Names" were "by most accounts" some of the top players from Long Island. It was also pointed out that there were "many" good players. The list was not based on the posters opinion.

2. Yes, "All" of the players were identified by Inside Lacrosse as a top player. 22 of the 25 were ranked in the Top 30/40 by Inside Lacrosse and 3 were listed as a "player to watch".

3. All of the class of 2017 players on the list played in the UA Senior Game.
5 of the 7 class of 2016 players played in the UA Senior Game.
2 of the 6 class of 2015 played in the UA Senior Game 3 others were selected to play for Team USA at the U19 World Games. They all would have played in the UA game had there not been a conflict. So 5 of 6.
All 6 of the class of 2018 players played in the UA underclass games and it is a good bet that most if not all will be selected to compete in the UA Senior Game this year.

4. They are all excellent college programs.

Not only are you bitter, you lie as well. I guess the end justifies the means with people like you. Keep hating it becomes you.

First off I just figured you were slow as you have no concept of what a fact is but now realize you just suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.
1) You changed the original from "Here are the top players " to now saying some of the top players . Not sure anyone would have a problem with saying some of the top players. Clearly the list was based on the posters opinion as that list exists no where else and was compiled based on the posters opinion ,just so you know thats a fact.
2)Lets just use 2016 as an example to keep it simple for you. A player on your list was not selected as a UA senior game participant,nor was she a top 50 inside lacrosse recruit while 2 other LI players were, yet neither of those players are on the list.
Everyone of the players on the list are excellent players and no one is saying they are not. My problem is essentially with posters like you and the list maker who feel the need to display their "superior" knowledge of the inner workings and thoughts of college coaches by stating "facts" when the only fact is they are clueless.There was zero reason for the original poster to list players names other than they just wanted to list their own kids name and yes that is a list they made up , its not a list of the UA seniors or the Inside lacrosse top recruits, or even just the US lacrosse all americans.
Its really not that difficult to figure out that coaches will take the size of a player into account along with many other attributes and yes there are certain programs that tend to favor certain attributes over others.

Aren't you also displaying your "superior knowledge" of the inner working and thoughts college coaches? or is that just not opinion? Seems a little hypocritical of you don't you think

Ok so who is missing from the list?[/quote]
Leave him/her alone, the person obviously has issues and misses the point of the post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where to begin?

1: The poster indicated that the "list / Names" were "by most accounts" some of the top players from Long Island. It was also pointed out that there were "many" good players. The list was not based on the posters opinion.

2. Yes, "All" of the players were identified by Inside Lacrosse as a top player. 22 of the 25 were ranked in the Top 30/40 by Inside Lacrosse and 3 were listed as a "player to watch".

3. All of the class of 2017 players on the list played in the UA Senior Game.
5 of the 7 class of 2016 players played in the UA Senior Game.
2 of the 6 class of 2015 played in the UA Senior Game 3 others were selected to play for Team USA at the U19 World Games. They all would have played in the UA game had there not been a conflict. So 5 of 6.
All 6 of the class of 2018 players played in the UA underclass games and it is a good bet that most if not all will be selected to compete in the UA Senior Game this year.

4. They are all excellent college programs.

Not only are you bitter, you lie as well. I guess the end justifies the means with people like you. Keep hating it becomes you.

First off I just figured you were slow as you have no concept of what a fact is but now realize you just suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.
1) You changed the original from "Here are the top players " to now saying some of the top players . Not sure anyone would have a problem with saying some of the top players. Clearly the list was based on the posters opinion as that list exists no where else and was compiled based on the posters opinion ,just so you know thats a fact.
2)Lets just use 2016 as an example to keep it simple for you. A player on your list was not selected as a UA senior game participant,nor was she a top 50 inside lacrosse recruit while 2 other LI players were, yet neither of those players are on the list.
Everyone of the players on the list are excellent players and no one is saying they are not. My problem is essentially with posters like you and the list maker who feel the need to display their "superior" knowledge of the inner workings and thoughts of college coaches by stating "facts" when the only fact is they are clueless.There was zero reason for the original poster to list players names other than they just wanted to list their own kids name and yes that is a list they made up , its not a list of the UA seniors or the Inside lacrosse top recruits, or even just the US lacrosse all americans.
Its really not that difficult to figure out that coaches will take the size of a player into account along with many other attributes and yes there are certain programs that tend to favor certain attributes over others.

Aren't you also displaying your "superior knowledge" of the inner working and thoughts college coaches? or is that just not opinion? Seems a little hypocritical of you don't you think

Ok so who is missing from the list?

Leave him/her alone, the person obviously has issues and misses the point of the post.
[/quote]
Actually I think you have missed the point of his post and I thought the Dunning Kruger thing was pretty funny.( Yes I had to look it up). I think the point of his post was there was no reason to put that list up, if you are going to make such a list at least say "in my opinion" not " here are the top players". I have a daughter at the 2016 age and actually think the Dunning Kruger poster missed a few who were UA senior all americans , on Inside lacrosse top recruit list (not honorable mention or whatever that is) and not on that posters list, goalie from St.A, two players from GC, and a player from WI. If you are going use names at least be factually correct and full disclaimer I am too lazy to do the research so I could be wrong but I don't think so. I am most familiar with the 2016 group but would imagine the other ages are probably the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where to begin?

1: The poster indicated that the "list / Names" were "by most accounts" some of the top players from Long Island. It was also pointed out that there were "many" good players. The list was not based on the posters opinion.

2. Yes, "All" of the players were identified by Inside Lacrosse as a top player. 22 of the 25 were ranked in the Top 30/40 by Inside Lacrosse and 3 were listed as a "player to watch".

3. All of the class of 2017 players on the list played in the UA Senior Game.
5 of the 7 class of 2016 players played in the UA Senior Game.
2 of the 6 class of 2015 played in the UA Senior Game 3 others were selected to play for Team USA at the U19 World Games. They all would have played in the UA game had there not been a conflict. So 5 of 6.
All 6 of the class of 2018 players played in the UA underclass games and it is a good bet that most if not all will be selected to compete in the UA Senior Game this year.

4. They are all excellent college programs.

Not only are you bitter, you lie as well. I guess the end justifies the means with people like you. Keep hating it becomes you.

First off I just figured you were slow as you have no concept of what a fact is but now realize you just suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.
1) You changed the original from "Here are the top players " to now saying some of the top players . Not sure anyone would have a problem with saying some of the top players. Clearly the list was based on the posters opinion as that list exists no where else and was compiled based on the posters opinion ,just so you know thats a fact.
2)Lets just use 2016 as an example to keep it simple for you. A player on your list was not selected as a UA senior game participant,nor was she a top 50 inside lacrosse recruit while 2 other LI players were, yet neither of those players are on the list.
Everyone of the players on the list are excellent players and no one is saying they are not. My problem is essentially with posters like you and the list maker who feel the need to display their "superior" knowledge of the inner workings and thoughts of college coaches by stating "facts" when the only fact is they are clueless.There was zero reason for the original poster to list players names other than they just wanted to list their own kids name and yes that is a list they made up , its not a list of the UA seniors or the Inside lacrosse top recruits, or even just the US lacrosse all americans.
Its really not that difficult to figure out that coaches will take the size of a player into account along with many other attributes and yes there are certain programs that tend to favor certain attributes over others. [/quote]

Wow, Just post your daughters name already and be done with it.

The original post was to show that height is not a major concern during the recruiting process. So what if not every top player was not listed.

As for the Class of 2016, All 7 players were listed by Inside lacrosse during their senior year (#1, #7, #11, #21 and three were listed as "players to watch"). 5 of the 7 did play in the UA Senior Game. One player was selected to play for USA U19 Team. All were obviously recruited by some of the top programs in the country. That was the basis for "by most accounts".

The post was not about the players it was to point out that "The Profile" did not hinder these players and the person who asked the original question should not be concerned with their daughters height.

You are the only one trying to display superior knowledge.

"There is no problem. Here is the thing... the post was in response to a question. The "list" was not random and it was not put out there as one persons opinion. The names were posted in order to give the parent of a younger player some facts that were based on reality.

It was not the "opinion" of the person who posted the names (it was the "opinion" of the coaches of the best college programs that was being pointed out. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all of the girls are or were listed by Inside Lacrosse as "top" high school players/recruits. The very fact that they were all recruited by the top college programs, ranked by Inside lacrosse and played in the Under Armour games or for Team USA would seem to indicate "most accounts"."

Try to follow along. Above is the original post I was addressing. The poster actually says correct me if they were wrong, they were corrected but your hatred of bigger athletes ( I suspect because your little Susie was told by some program they are concerned with her size) clouds all you read. If you too dense to see that the original post was not some list they copied but is in reality the posters opinion then I should have just realized you cant argue with stupid.

You all are a bunch and f******g [ChillLaxin]. Change the topic already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You all are a bunch and f******g [ChillLaxin]. Change the topic already.

I tried changing the topic. It didn't work. The only way to get traction with the lunatics is to leave their daughter or their daughters team off a list. If you have not noticed just make a top team list and forget to put a team or two on the list. Sit back and watch the madness .

wow.....all this about short vs tall girls. Juvenile people.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know why Suffolk never established a power conference ?

Not certain but would say because Suffolk uses a power ranking system.

They also employ a system where the better schools play the top schools and the less competitive teams only play a limited amount of competitive schools.kvtu7k

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You all are a bunch and f******g [ChillLaxin]. Change the topic already.

Okay, thanks for posting nothing substantive or even remotely interesting.

Any HS teams on the island wearing helmets this year?

I do happen to have a 2019 going to a top 5 school. She is 5'51/2". She is same height or taller than lots of her YJ teammates, where the team is almost all committed.
She has hustle, speed and IQ. She is an athlete. That was the key for her.

Fear not - dad or mom of non-vertically challenge players.
If this lacrosse and college thing does not work out - there are a lot more opportunities than for the athletic, aggressive and vertically challenged players. The modeling industry does definitely have a "profile" they look for that definitely includes a height minimum. Bundchen is almost 6 foot and she has a QB husband - always look at the positives and have a "Plan B".

Short kids come with a stack of problems they must be able to overcome in order to be highly competitive. Tall kids have a stack of typical issues they must overcome also. Personally I am glad my daughter is not tall or short. Its hard for most of these kids to be on the elite level. Here is the thing about lacrosse, far sub par athletes compared to nearly any other sport are able to go compete at the collegiate level. Most the kids going to school on lacrosse (not all) are merely trained sticks and not very good athletes. Don't be offended of the truth, be thankful that your daughter is in this sport at this time and able to take advantage of that fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

Yes, youth programs and (lacrosse) culture play a roll. However success at the HS level comes down to coaching. West Islip has had success because they have all three. GC, Manhasset and CHS also have all three. The Smithtowns and WM have two of the three.
Put Mt Sinai coach at Massapequa, Smithtown East, Smithtown West or Ward Melville and those programs will be as dominant as Garden City.

Manhasset has good HS coaching? please. She is awful - using the HS program to fund her club team, the Liberty. Town is wealthy so the parent pay her and no one questions it, including the HS Administration. The girls on the team AND the alumni don't like her. How good of a coach was she last season? not good at all - check the record. the youth programs in towns like Manhasset and GC are strong .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

Yes, youth programs and (lacrosse) culture play a roll. However success at the HS level comes down to coaching. West Islip has had success because they have all three. GC, Manhasset and CHS also have all three. The Smithtowns and WM have two of the three.
Put Mt Sinai coach at Massapequa, Smithtown East, Smithtown West or Ward Melville and those programs will be as dominant as Garden City.

Manhasset has good HS coaching? please. She is awful - using the HS program to fund her club team, the Liberty. Town is wealthy so the parent pay her and no one questions it, including the HS Administration. The girls on the team AND the alumni don't like her. How good of a coach was she last season? not good at all - check the record. the youth programs in towns like Manhasset and GC are strong .

Stop, you may not like he but she is far from bad, I just checked quickly and she is 102 and 23 since 2011. Manhasset plays in the power conference and they also play several non league games per year Vs strong teams. Nearly 1/3 of her losses over the past 7 years came last season with 7. She has won the county and state championship, You may not like her and she may not be great but you could do a lot worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

Yes, youth programs and (lacrosse) culture play a roll. However success at the HS level comes down to coaching. West Islip has had success because they have all three. GC, Manhasset and CHS also have all three. The Smithtowns and WM have two of the three.
Put Mt Sinai coach at Massapequa, Smithtown East, Smithtown West or Ward Melville and those programs will be as dominant as Garden City.

Manhasset has good HS coaching? please. She is awful - using the HS program to fund her club team, the Liberty. Town is wealthy so the parent pay her and no one questions it, including the HS Administration. The girls on the team AND the alumni don't like her. How good of a coach was she last season? not good at all - check the record. the youth programs in towns like Manhasset and GC are strong .

Stop, you may not like he but she is far from bad, I just checked quickly and she is 102 and 23 since 2011. Manhasset plays in the power conference and they also play several non league games per year Vs strong teams. Nearly 1/3 of her losses over the past 7 years came last season with 7. She has won the county and state championship, You may not like her and she may not be great but you could do a lot worse.

You know who has worse coaching North Port. Don't even think about playing for another club team if you live there or you will never see the field. 20+ years and a single state championship in a weak division is pretty pitiful. If any semi-wealthy community and school district turns a blind eye to a corrupt dictator it's North Port. At least "set has to play Garden City, Who does NP play? there best competition is WI or WM and none of them are near consistent and all lose regularly to Section 3. Lets be honest Class A in Section 11, and North Port specifically is disappointing at best. With a Lacrosse culture as strong as it is in North Port the only reason for the failure is Carol Rose. Without the coaching and players from other districts Yellow Jackets would be a Laughing stock

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The size of the school has nothing to do with it. Athletic programs thrive because of the culture and strength of their youth programs. He is a very good coach but would not have the same success at many of the large schools because of lack of talent or lax IQ . 200 graduates or 2000 graduates means nothing if you have 15 good lacrosse players.

Yes, youth programs and (lacrosse) culture play a roll. However success at the HS level comes down to coaching. West Islip has had success because they have all three. GC, Manhasset and CHS also have all three. The Smithtowns and WM have two of the three.
Put Mt Sinai coach at Massapequa, Smithtown East, Smithtown West or Ward Melville and those programs will be as dominant as Garden City.

Manhasset has good HS coaching? please. She is awful - using the HS program to fund her club team, the Liberty. Town is wealthy so the parent pay her and no one questions it, including the HS Administration. The girls on the team AND the alumni don't like her. How good of a coach was she last season? not good at all - check the record. the youth programs in towns like Manhasset and GC are strong .

Stop, you may not like he but she is far from bad, I just checked quickly and she is 102 and 23 since 2011. Manhasset plays in the power conference and they also play several non league games per year Vs strong teams. Nearly 1/3 of her losses over the past 7 years came last season with 7. She has won the county and state championship, You may not like her and she may not be great but you could do a lot worse.

I have no idea what GC record is during that time but it is veritably better with multiple state titles. Multiple. So What gives? The year Manhasset won, the team he 3-4 all Americans. Good coaching can win when you don’t have talent and your players (and former players) respect you. She hasn’t and they don’t. There are plenty of other coaches that can do a better job and help the students including building a winning culture with accountability. Danielle may have been a good player during her day but she is not a good coach. never mind all the club affiliation nonsense "pay to play" . truly terrible

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

Oh really. Ask a jockey...they'd beg to differ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

Bigger is better for certain positions, for Womens lacrosse it helps the draw girl. On a scale of 1 to 10, size is a 2, speed is a 10.

[quote=Anonymous]Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

That stunad Bill Parcells never saw that he actually thought Joe Morris 5'6" on a good day was better than Brandon Jacobs 6'4". All things are never equal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

That stunad Bill Parcells never saw that he actually thought Joe Morris 5'6" on a good day was better than Brandon Jacobs 6'4". All things are never equal.

Wow. You must not watch sports much. You definitely never played any. There is a reason athletes come in different sizes. There are obvious advantages to being big or small. Good coaches recognize that and use the miss match. Lacrosse is no different. JJ Watt can't cover Julian Edelman or Darren sproles and they can't block him. Porzingas,doesn't cover point guards or visa versa. When it comes to recruiting in lacrosse , a good coach will find a mix of kids. Jenn Levy recruited Maggie bill and Allie messenger. Complete opposite body types and playing style. As far as all things being equal, you take the bigger kid, problem is all things are never equal. Shorter kids always have shorter steps which give them more quickness. Bigger kids always have more reach and take up more space.
BTW Joe Morris was a better running back. Jacobs ran too straight up and was an easy target especially in short yardage!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Bringing up womens tennis really goes against your argument , the most dominant womens tennis player in the game and probably the best player in history is big by female athlete standards.

Really just a silly conversation ,its girls lacrosse any size athletic girl can play the sport at a high level. That said I have never heard of a coach who prefers "short" players over tall but I have heard the opposite obviously they want all their players to be athletic ,high lax IQ , with speed and aggression.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Short kids come with a stack of problems they must be able to overcome in order to be highly competitive. Tall kids have a stack of typical issues they must overcome also. Personally I am glad my daughter is not tall or short. Its hard for most of these kids to be on the elite level. Here is the thing about lacrosse, far sub par athletes compared to nearly any other sport are able to go compete at the collegiate level. Most the kids going to school on lacrosse (not all) are merely trained sticks and not very good athletes. Don't be offended of the truth, be thankful that your daughter is in this sport at this time and able to take advantage of that fact.

Congrats.....you have won the dumbest opinion award....now please tell us the sports that have the best athletes. Since BOTC is all about facts please provide facts.

Height is always better in the supermarket but not always in an athletic forum. Most tall girls are gangly and awkward . Yes they can stand in the 8 meter (and if they have good stick skills, catch a high ball that's over the 5'4 defender's head but she better know how to finish).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Some parents come up with all kinds of excuses. Coaches recruit and make offers to the best players they can get. When they can't get the players they want they move to the next tier players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Short kids come with a stack of problems they must be able to overcome in order to be highly competitive. Tall kids have a stack of typical issues they must overcome also. Personally I am glad my daughter is not tall or short. Its hard for most of these kids to be on the elite level. Here is the thing about lacrosse, far sub par athletes compared to nearly any other sport are able to go compete at the collegiate level. Most the kids going to school on lacrosse (not all) are merely trained sticks and not very good athletes. Don't be offended of the truth, be thankful that your daughter is in this sport at this time and able to take advantage of that fact.

Congrats.....you have won the dumbest opinion award....now please tell us the sports that have the best athletes. Since BOTC is all about facts please provide facts.

Nope. That is spot on. So many high schools from MD and LI have 6-8 girls lacrosse players going D1 each and every graduating year, girls who never even stepped on the field. You ever see that in any other sport? No, that's a fact, it is not even remotely possible in any other sport, yet it happens over and over at multiple schools with girls lacrosse. What sport has the best athletes is not the point. Get over being offended by the reality of exactly what is happening. Yes, every lax parent wants to believe that their kid is such a rare, elite athlete and that has enabled her (or him) the opportunity to be recruited. And yes, for a handful of them that is the case, but certainly not a blanket statement that can be used to cover all. BTW.... Congrats... you have won the most delusional parent award.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Short kids come with a stack of problems they must be able to overcome in order to be highly competitive. Tall kids have a stack of typical issues they must overcome also. Personally I am glad my daughter is not tall or short. Its hard for most of these kids to be on the elite level. Here is the thing about lacrosse, far sub par athletes compared to nearly any other sport are able to go compete at the collegiate level. Most the kids going to school on lacrosse (not all) are merely trained sticks and not very good athletes. Don't be offended of the truth, be thankful that your daughter is in this sport at this time and able to take advantage of that fact.

Congrats.....you have won the dumbest opinion award....now please tell us the sports that have the best athletes. Since BOTC is all about facts please provide facts.

Nope. That is spot on. So many high schools from MD and LI have 6-8 girls lacrosse players going D1 each and every graduating year, girls who never even stepped on the field. You ever see that in any other sport? No, that's a fact, it is not even remotely possible in any other sport, yet it happens over and over at multiple schools with girls lacrosse. What sport has the best athletes is not the point. Get over being offended by the reality of exactly what is happening. Yes, every lax parent wants to believe that their kid is such a rare, elite athlete and that has enabled her (or him) the opportunity to be recruited. And yes, for a handful of them that is the case, but certainly not a blanket statement that can be used to cover all. BTW.... Congrats... you have won the most delusional parent award.

Fiction: So many high schools from MD and LI have 6-8 girls lacrosse players going D1 each and every graduating year, girls who never even stepped on the field.

STOP already--my head hurts!!!

I think as a generalization in women's sports if you look at D1, the avg height is little more than D2 who's average height is more than D3

The UNC team looks like an avg of about 5'7" with only 1 5 footer

D3 rosters have a lot more girls that are 5'3" or less

Coaches always say you can't teach Height or Speed

You have waaaayyy too much time on your hands.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think as a generalization in women's sports if you look at D1, the avg height is little more than D2 who's average height is more than D3

The UNC team looks like an avg of about 5'7" with only 1 5 footer

D3 rosters have a lot more girls that are 5'3" or less

Coaches always say you can't teach Height or Speed

Actually the average height on UNC roster is 5'5 1/2" (roster height's averaged)
Florida 5'5"
Md 5'6"
Stonybrook 5'6"

So looks like 5'5-5'6" is average height of top level D 1 player.

So, what you are all missing is that the average height of women in the US is about 5' 4". Therefore, you would need a significant number of very tall women to move the needle on averages to make a notable difference. If the average height is 5' 4", I doubt you are going to see many rosters with an average of 5'7".

Hey stunads do you know they always give you an inch or 2 on rosters. So get a grip! You can play it doesnt matter.

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

Chris Robinson fired at McDonogh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think as a generalization in women's sports if you look at D1, the avg height is little more than D2 who's average height is more than D3

The UNC team looks like an avg of about 5'7" with only 1 5 footer

D3 rosters have a lot more girls that are 5'3" or less

Coaches always say you can't teach Height or Speed

It's aggressiveness ...you can't teach aggressiveness... so if the roster says 5'7 then the girl is really 5'6 etc...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

CR has stepped down from his position at McDonogh. He is no longer the coach. No one is talking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

“After 177 straight wins, Chris Robinson out as McDonogh girls lacrosse coach”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

It means Chris Robinson is out at McDonough. National number #1 is looking for a new coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

“After 177 straight wins, Chris Robinson out as McDonogh girls lacrosse coach”

ESM, Mt Sinai, at spooky was the 1-2 KO combo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

It means he's probably making more money running club teams and tournaments than teaching at a private school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey stunads do you know they always give you an inch or 2 on rosters. So get a grip! You can play it doesnt matter.

Thanks for that completely nonsensical post. The heights listed are self reported , some are taller and some are shorter than their length stud height. You anti height people are pathetic ,we get it ,your kid is short .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

It means he's probably making more money running club teams and tournaments than teaching at a private school

if that's the case its the same up north. Many club directors are more powerful and compensated more than college coaches. Directors have the ability to bilk hundreds of players. The clubs control the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR out at the U suddenly and unexpected

what does that mean? what r u saying

It means he's probably making more money running club teams and tournaments than teaching at a private school

if that's the case its the same up north. Many club directors are more powerful and compensated more than college coaches. Directors have the ability to bilk hundreds of players. The clubs control the game.

That’s not the reason

Very few reasons make sense of his immediate firing.

Laughable.
No way he’d leave that sweet gig with combined family of
7 kids- some who go there- and have the school cut ties with him.
Chris at Robinson did not leave McD - McD cut ties with him. Read.
I just hope that the damage has not been too deep over
the years.

Why was Robinson let go?

This should squash all the rumors

From: crobinson@robinsonsportsinc.com

Subject: McDonogh resignation

Dear M&D families,
Yesterday, I resigned from my position from McDonogh School as head coach of the girls’ lacrosse program and as a middle school teacher. During my 13 year lacrosse coaching stint at the school we took the program from a basement dweller to the best lacrosse program in the country for the last decade. By the huge media crush and the outpouring of texts, phone calls, and emails I am sure many are looking for an answer
I resigned my position at the school to move forward in my career. It was not an easy decision, but one that I felt was in the best interest of me and my family. The timing may not seem perfect, but many times when opportunity comes knocking it is not the ideal time. Building the National Girls Lacrosse League and Robinson Sports to a national level is a major goal for Robinson Sports and I am exciting for this opportunity to use my experience in new ways.
I have been made aware of the rumors that have circulated because of my departure by some of my friends and colleagues. Some of them are appalling to hear but I guess in today’s society people automatically assume the worst. I assure you all, there isn’t any merit to these horrific claims. So in this time of change for my family, I would ask that you be respectful of my decisions to move on in my career.
I would like to thank the hundreds of people who have reached out to me and my family with sincere well wishes. All of your support has been unbelievable.

Sincerely,
Chris Robinson

I dont think that "squashes" anything. He is trying to protect his reputation which is what his entire business and fortune is built on. Of course he will say this. No matter how its spun though, it not normal for a teacher and coach to leave a school in the middle of the year and right before lacrosse season starts. I'm not alleging anything, I know nothing, but logically, it makes no sense for him to resign. If you look at it from a purely rational perspective, the school must have a had a very convincing reason to ask him to resign. It could be any one of several things but it makes no sense that he is leaving on his own volition.

Agreed. He's said it's because the club teams and the expansion of the ngll is taking up too much of his time. If that's the case, why not come out and state that explicitly in his letter to the club team families? I can understand if he wanted to leave that out when addressing the McD community, but doesn't it make sense to go into his business expansion plan a bit more for the club letter? Also, adding the section about 'rumors' being untrue, probably stoked the flames rather than extinguish it, esp during this climate of harassment, etc. These things don't tend to happen overnight and abruptly - unless there's a significant reason for it...

# me too

Three top reasons for mid year firing of a teacher/coach: sex, substance abuse or money ...
he says HE left for the money and fame and fortune of his club and national girls league.
If that’s the case, he really left his girls high and dry... he could have waited 4 months and retired after the season.

in todays day in age everyone is guilty until proven innocent, and by then its too late. sad

RIP Mcdonogh Lacrosse 1/16/2018

that's a lot of benefits to walk away from. Do like another person with the same initials does. Gets their $140k, medical dental and pension from the school and then the millions from the club is spending money

We can all look forward to the announcement from Robinson Sports regarding the "business opportunity" that makes clear that the departure had to be this abrupt, and couldn't have been delayed for another 5 months until after the season (incidentally, his daughter's senior season). And also required the full attention of BOTH of the Robinson coaches at McDonogh ...

I don't think the worst of people ... but I also have little patience for explanations that insult one's intelligence.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We can all look forward to the announcement from Robinson Sports regarding the "business opportunity" that makes clear that the departure had to be this abrupt, and couldn't have been delayed for another 5 months until after the season (incidentally, his daughter's senior season). And also required the full attention of BOTH of the Robinson coaches at McDonogh ...

I don't think the worst of people ... but I also have little patience for explanations that insult one's intelligence.

Wait, his daughter is a senior this year?????? And he's stepping down now for business purposes rather than guide her thru her last season at the school????? Yea, no....that doesn't equate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Bringing up womens tennis really goes against your argument , the most dominant womens tennis player in the game and probably the best player in history is big by female athlete standards.

Wrong. Once again, height is not the reason that she is good. And relative to many other top female tennis players she would not considered tall. She is 5'9" , her sister is 6'1" .
Things are never equal.... There are many "things" considered and just about off of them are more important than height.
To the person who believes "you can't coach speed" you are 100% incorrect.

The original post was not intended to be a Tall vs Short debate. It was to demonstrate that college coaches will recruit the best player. There are many factors and height is not of major concern.

Speed is something that doesn't improve as readily as strength or conditioning. More importantly the "motor" tied to speed is either something you have or you don't. Some kids are moving all the time and others only move when they have the ball or when the coach is chewing them out.

Give me a kid with a good motor any day. Everything else can be taught.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Bringing up womens tennis really goes against your argument , the most dominant womens tennis player in the game and probably the best player in history is big by female athlete standards.

Wrong. Once again, height is not the reason that she is good. And relative to many other top female tennis players she would not considered tall. She is 5'9" , her sister is 6'1" .
Things are never equal.... There are many "things" considered and just about off of them are more important than height.
To the person who believes "you can't coach speed" you are 100% incorrect.

The original post was not intended to be a Tall vs Short debate. It was to demonstrate that college coaches will recruit the best player. There are many factors and height is not of major concern.

I wouldn't say 100% incorrect. You can work on getting a quicker first step and yes you can improve your speed a little.. Either you got it or you don't. You can't make someone fast that's not. That's 100% a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's a lot of benefits to walk away from. Do like another person with the same initials does. Gets their $140k, medical dental and pension from the school and then the millions from the club is spending money

y

I doubt a private school in Maryland pays that well, and you're def overspeculating about the benefits, the private schools here on LI don't pay much. If he adds another tournament or 2 to his company, he probably makes more from that than teaching and his quality of life is def better bc he's not dealing with all the parents...or he doesn't be think he'll go undefeated this year and wants to retire on top

Rumor Taylor Cummings will coach her old HS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Bringing up womens tennis really goes against your argument , the most dominant womens tennis player in the game and probably the best player in history is big by female athlete standards.

Wrong. Once again, height is not the reason that she is good. And relative to many other top female tennis players she would not considered tall. She is 5'9" , her sister is 6'1" .
Things are never equal.... There are many "things" considered and just about off of them are more important than height.
To the person who believes "you can't coach speed" you are 100% incorrect.

The original post was not intended to be a Tall vs Short debate. It was to demonstrate that college coaches will recruit the best player. There are many factors and height is not of major concern.

I was going to let this go because you are obviously a little slow but will give it a try. You mentioned womens tennis as an example of a sport where being bigger than average is not an advantage. It is pointed out to you that tennis is a bad sport to support your argument as the best player is taller than average and your response is that relative to the rest of the best players in the world she is not that tall. So in your opinion the best players in the world( professional players) are considerably taller than average but being tall is not an advantage in the sport of tennis, that makes no sense.
We get it your short kid is every bit as good if not better than any kid that is taller than average. Please tell us the college lacrosse program that has passed on a kid because the kid was too tall. Again never are all things equal but if in a coaches mind you have 2 players of equal speed, IQ, stick skills etc. they are going to take the 5ft9 player over the 5 ft0 player, keep telling yourself that size is not an advantage in sports but you are just simply "wrong".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Speed is something that doesn't improve as readily as strength or conditioning. More importantly the "motor" tied to speed is either something you have or you don't. Some kids are moving all the time and others only move when they have the ball or when the coach is chewing them out.

Give me a kid with a good motor any day. Everything else can be taught.

Are you telling us that standing around, getting in the way and clogging things up is not how the game is supposed to be played? Do you mean to tell us that you are not supposed to move off ball and clear space for your teammates? Are you not supposed to set picks? How about jogging or walking to get back on "D"? Is that what you are supposed to do? Please call our high school coach and inform her of your startling revelation because she does not appear to understand how the game is supposed to be played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Speed is something that doesn't improve as readily as strength or conditioning. More importantly the "motor" tied to speed is either something you have or you don't. Some kids are moving all the time and others only move when they have the ball or when the coach is chewing them out.

Give me a kid with a good motor any day. Everything else can be taught.

Speed will improve in direct proportion to strength. However, it is the strength to body weight ratio that is the determining factor when it comes to speed. The motor that you refer to is more of a mental thing. The players that have it (the motor) are the players that hustle all over the field. They are the players that work just as hard playing off ball defense or redefining as they do when they are going to the goal.

I agree 100% with how important the motor is. Just do not agree on what determines speed and how it can be improved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Speed is something that doesn't improve as readily as strength or conditioning. More importantly the "motor" tied to speed is either something you have or you don't. Some kids are moving all the time and others only move when they have the ball or when the coach is chewing them out.

Give me a kid with a good motor any day. Everything else can be taught.

Speed will improve in direct proportion to strength. However, it is the strength to body weight ratio that is the determining factor when it comes to speed. The motor that you refer to is more of a mental thing. The players that have it (the motor) are the players that hustle all over the field. They are the players that work just as hard playing off ball defense or redefining as they do when they are going to the goal.

I agree 100% with how important the motor is. Just do not agree on what determines speed and how it can be improved.

slow kids don't get fast, quick kids can get quicker

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Bringing up womens tennis really goes against your argument , the most dominant womens tennis player in the game and probably the best player in history is big by female athlete standards.

Wrong. Once again, height is not the reason that she is good. And relative to many other top female tennis players she would not considered tall. She is 5'9" , her sister is 6'1" .
Things are never equal.... There are many "things" considered and just about off of them are more important than height.
To the person who believes "you can't coach speed" you are 100% incorrect.

The original post was not intended to be a Tall vs Short debate. It was to demonstrate that college coaches will recruit the best player. There are many factors and height is not of major concern.

I was going to let this go because you are obviously a little slow but will give it a try. You mentioned womens tennis as an example of a sport where being bigger than average is not an advantage. It is pointed out to you that tennis is a bad sport to support your argument as the best player is taller than average and your response is that relative to the rest of the best players in the world she is not that tall. So in your opinion the best players in the world( professional players) are considerably taller than average but being tall is not an advantage in the sport of tennis, that makes no sense.
We get it your short kid is every bit as good if not better than any kid that is taller than average. Please tell us the college lacrosse program that has passed on a kid because the kid was too tall. Again never are all things equal but if in a coaches mind you have 2 players of equal speed, IQ, stick skills etc. they are going to take the 5ft9 player over the 5 ft0 player, keep telling yourself that size is not an advantage in sports but you are just simply "wrong".

I have to chime in here.
You miss the point again. Things are never equal.
The original post identified several players who are considered by many to be some of the best in their class. Those players were all recruited by some of the top college programs in the country. Some would be considered tall, some would be considered short and many would be considered average. But that was not the point, the point was that "All" of the players were recruited by top tier college programs and height obviously did not negatively affect the players ability to be recruited. The post was in response to a question and was intended to be helpful.
Someone turned it into a tall vs short thing and then morons like you keep going back to the "All things being equal" comment. Things are never equal and when we are talking about girls lacrosse , height is pretty far down the priority list at the top college programs. Your obsession with bigger/taller always being better demonstrates that you do not have a clue as to what is important to the top college coaches.

my daughter is the brienne of tarth of lacrosse and can pick her school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Bringing up womens tennis really goes against your argument , the most dominant womens tennis player in the game and probably the best player in history is big by female athlete standards.

Wrong. Once again, height is not the reason that she is good. And relative to many other top female tennis players she would not considered tall. She is 5'9" , her sister is 6'1" .
Things are never equal.... There are many "things" considered and just about off of them are more important than height.
To the person who believes "you can't coach speed" you are 100% incorrect.

The original post was not intended to be a Tall vs Short debate. It was to demonstrate that college coaches will recruit the best player. There are many factors and height is not of major concern.

I was going to let this go because you are obviously a little slow but will give it a try. You mentioned womens tennis as an example of a sport where being bigger than average is not an advantage. It is pointed out to you that tennis is a bad sport to support your argument as the best player is taller than average and your response is that relative to the rest of the best players in the world she is not that tall. So in your opinion the best players in the world( professional players) are considerably taller than average but being tall is not an advantage in the sport of tennis, that makes no sense.
We get it your short kid is every bit as good if not better than any kid that is taller than average. Please tell us the college lacrosse program that has passed on a kid because the kid was too tall. Again never are all things equal but if in a coaches mind you have 2 players of equal speed, IQ, stick skills etc. they are going to take the 5ft9 player over the 5 ft0 player, keep telling yourself that size is not an advantage in sports but you are just simply "wrong".

It is an advantage , but lack of size is an advantage also! It depends on the position and what you are looking for. Running backs in the NFL tend to be on the shorter side because they can cut quicker and accelerate better than a taller long legged player. A center in basketball is taller for rebounding by the rim. Your statement is ignorant. Like i said in an earlier post, The 6'5"JJ Watt may be the best defensive player in the NFL, He is at a severe disadvantage if he tries to cover the 5'6" Darren Sproles in the slot. You say "all things being equal" but that is fantasy land. It is never equal! You will always choose the smaller player for quickness and the taller player for size and reach. There are no JJ watts that are as quick as Darren sprolles! Why is it so hard for people to give credit to kids who are not like their own. Its ok, its a big field with room for all types to showcase their talents. Enjoy the diversity!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor Taylor Cummings will coach her old HS

Who cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor Taylor Cummings will coach her old HS

It's not a rumor it's true. But not sure that is a good thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor Taylor Cummings will coach her old HS

It's not a rumor it's true. But not sure that is a good thing.

She is confirmed as an assistant coach. She is not the head coach. She took Love’s asst position.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's be honest, all things being equal a coach will take a tall girl over a shorter girl. Period. If you don't agree, you don't watch enough sports. Bigger is better, in EVERY sport.

"All things" are rarely if ever equal. Coaches
want the best player they can get and unless the position requires height they want the best athlete. As far as all sports go, when was the last time you saw a 6'5" cornerback in the NFL? How about a 6'4" running back? Those are two of the most athletic positions in all of sport and the best in the world are average height .

Lacrosse is not basketball , there is no position where height is required.

Bigger? Really, bigger is better in every sport? do you see a lot of 6' 250 lb women's professional tennis players. Are there many 6'5" 250 lb shortstops playing MLB?

If your daughter didn't have offers from Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern and the like it was not because of her height.

Bringing up womens tennis really goes against your argument , the most dominant womens tennis player in the game and probably the best player in history is big by female athlete standards.

Wrong. Once again, height is not the reason that she is good. And relative to many other top female tennis players she would not considered tall. She is 5'9" , her sister is 6'1" .
Things are never equal.... There are many "things" considered and just about off of them are more important than height.
To the person who believes "you can't coach speed" you are 100% incorrect.

The original post was not intended to be a Tall vs Short debate. It was to demonstrate that college coaches will recruit the best player. There are many factors and height is not of major concern.

I was going to let this go because you are obviously a little slow but will give it a try. You mentioned womens tennis as an example of a sport where being bigger than average is not an advantage. It is pointed out to you that tennis is a bad sport to support your argument as the best player is taller than average and your response is that relative to the rest of the best players in the world she is not that tall. So in your opinion the best players in the world( professional players) are considerably taller than average but being tall is not an advantage in the sport of tennis, that makes no sense.
We get it your short kid is every bit as good if not better than any kid that is taller than average. Please tell us the college lacrosse program that has passed on a kid because the kid was too tall. Again never are all things equal but if in a coaches mind you have 2 players of equal speed, IQ, stick skills etc. they are going to take the 5ft9 player over the 5 ft0 player, keep telling yourself that size is not an advantage in sports but you are just simply "wrong".

You call someone slow yet you have missed the entire point. I notice that you also have difficulty debating what was actually written. Instead, you prefer to change things a bit and then present your insane argument. Get it through you think head, you are the only misfit on here carrying on about bigger/taller is always better.
Can you even recall the original question or is that too much to ask? The poster asked if coaches had a "profile" and someone provided an answer which showed that many girls of different heights were recruited by many of the best college programs (none appeared to be excluded for not meeting the profile). Based on the actual kids that were recruited, it does not appear that coaches will exclude girls for not being tall enough. Can you grasp that or is it too difficult for you? Take a look at the top programs in the country, they have players of varying height the large majority of the which are between 5'4 and 5'7" (not exactly tall). It is not height that makes them the best players in the country. The same with your tennis star, It is not her height that makes her great. Can you follow, can you understand? Also, I have not read any posts indicating that shorter is always better. What I have seen is people indicating that coaches look at many factors when they are recruiting and height is not a major concern.

Why are we still talking about this

good players rarely make good coaches. good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Speed is something that doesn't improve as readily as strength or conditioning. More importantly the "motor" tied to speed is either something you have or you don't. Some kids are moving all the time and others only move when they have the ball or when the coach is chewing them out.

Give me a kid with a good motor any day. Everything else can be taught.

Speed will improve in direct proportion to strength. However, it is the strength to body weight ratio that is the determining factor when it comes to speed. The motor that you refer to is more of a mental thing. The players that have it (the motor) are the players that hustle all over the field. They are the players that work just as hard playing off ball defense or redefining as they do when they are going to the goal.

I agree 100% with how important the motor is. Just do not agree on what determines speed and how it can be improved.

slow kids don't get fast, quick kids can get quicker

Another J#%^ A*€ who knows nothing.

Please explain the science behind your brilliant statement .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my daughter is the brienne of tarth of lacrosse and can pick her school.

My daughter is the Arya Stark of lacrosse and she has her list.

Long Island Top 10

Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM
Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport
Lynbrook - Wantagh - St Anthony's - Smithtown East - Smithtown West

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my daughter is the brienne of tarth of lacrosse and can pick her school.

My daughter is the Arya Stark of lacrosse and she has her list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my daughter is the brienne of tarth of lacrosse and can pick her school.

My daughter is the Arya Stark of lacrosse and she has her list.

Another :grin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Top 10

Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM
Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport
Lynbrook - Wantagh - St Anthony's - Smithtown East - Smithtown West

Lynbrook ? Southside,Syosset, North Shore, Kellenberg, Carle Pl, SHA, West Babylon mattituck, riverhead,as well as others,l are better . Also left Ward Melville off your List

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

Go Frogs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

We will see. In the same conference

You also forgot Long Beach and Port Washington, both are better than Lynbrook

Ward Melville is ranked Number 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville is ranked Number 1

That's what they said last year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville is ranked Number 1

Ranked? What rankings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville is ranked Number 1

i thought this was a High School Girls Fourm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville is ranked Number 1

That's what they said last year!

Really? Who is they?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Ribbit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

When was the last time Ward Melville won a State? how about Riverhead? Either Smithtown? Lynbrook? BBP? CSH? Thats right never at least they have won 1 (or 4). They also did very well last year. I remember a time not to long ago Mt Salina wasn't very good , but turns it around in a short time. BBP was a joke 3 years ago. Riverhead still is. Anything can happen so don't be so obnoxious about a school that has a better winning history than your daughters school does

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

When was the last time Ward Melville won a State? how about Riverhead? Either Smithtown? Lynbrook? BBP? CSH? Thats right never at least they have won 1 (or 4). They also did very well last year. I remember a time not to long ago Mt Salina wasn't very good , but turns it around in a short time. BBP was a joke 3 years ago. Riverhead still is. Anything can happen so don't be so obnoxious about a school that has a better winning history than your daughters school does

According to nysphsaa.com, where you can see past state champions in each class, Carle Place is not listed as a winner. Is their data incomplete?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

Field Hockey ? That's funny. Sad to say but on the island I am not sure you can even consider it a sport. With the exception of GC it is the sport for kids that get cut from soccer. Hate being negative but that is just reality. How many high schools on Long Island even have a team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

When was the last time Ward Melville won a State? how about Riverhead? Either Smithtown? Lynbrook? BBP? CSH? Thats right never at least they have won 1 (or 4). They also did very well last year. I remember a time not to long ago Mt Salina wasn't very good , but turns it around in a short time. BBP was a joke 3 years ago. Riverhead still is. Anything can happen so don't be so obnoxious about a school that has a better winning history than your daughters school does

According to nysphsaa.com, where you can see past state champions in each class, Carle Place is not listed as a winner. Is their data incomplete?

New to Lacrosse I guess

When will the Nassau power conference be announced? Who is sandbagging this year by begging out and who will jumping up and down to join? Could be the best top to bottom division in the country. Why doesn't Suffolk go this route. Everyone is pretty tired of seeing girls score 300 points against terrible teams and horrible coaching that allows teams to beat Copaigue 30-2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

Field Hockey ? That's funny. Sad to say but on the island I am not sure you can even consider it a sport. With the exception of GC it is the sport for kids that get cut from soccer. Hate being negative but that is just reality. How many high schools on Long Island even have a team?

You are a joke....have you ever seen Ward Melville or ESM play field hockey? Good try though. Garden City has sub par athletes with one outstanding player in lacrosse. The coaching is what gets it done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

Field Hockey ? That's funny. Sad to say but on the island I am not sure you can even consider it a sport. With the exception of GC it is the sport for kids that get cut from soccer. Hate being negative but that is just reality. How many high schools on Long Island even have a team?

You are a joke....have you ever seen Ward Melville or ESM play field hockey? Good try though. Garden City has sub par athletes with one outstanding player in lacrosse. The coaching is what gets it done.

The sport is unwatchable and nobody cares. This is a lacrosse forum . We will have to disagree about the level of athletes in GC but I will agree regarding coaching. You need to come in out of the boondocks every once in a while it will help with your perception about athletes.

GC has sub-par athletes? Soccer state title 2013, Lacrosse state titles 2016 and 2017. Field hockey and/or soccer state finalists 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017.

Looks like these "sub-par" athletes are getting things done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC has sub-par athletes? Soccer state title 2013, Lacrosse state titles 2016 and 2017. Field hockey and/or soccer state finalists 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017.

Looks like these "sub-par" athletes are getting things done was [quote=Anonymous]GC has sub-par athletes? Soccer state title 2013, Lacrosse state titles 2016 and 2017. Field hockey and/or soccer state finalists 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017.

Looks like these "sub-par" athletes are getting things done

As a team they get it done when they go off as individuals and play at their respective schools you will never hear of them.

Maybe you have never heard of Barbara Sullivan, Tarzian, Rix, Weiss, O’Hanlon, Lynch, the Defliese sisters, Brennan, to name a few.

Just because the majority of GC players don’t make a career out of lax post graduation, doesn’t mean they didn’t have successful collegiate careers.

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Not on LI its not. Me Me Me. Such a shame

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

Field Hockey ? That's funny. Sad to say but on the island I am not sure you can even consider it a sport. With the exception of GC it is the sport for kids that get cut from soccer. Hate being negative but that is just reality. How many high schools on Long Island even have a team?

You need to check your reality. Field hockey in Suffolk County very competitive, fielding a ton of lacrosse girls in districts from N-port, ESM, WM, SE and Sachem East and many more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe you have never heard of Barbara Sullivan, Tarzian, Rix, Weiss, O’Hanlon, Lynch, the Defliese sisters, Brennan, to name a few.

Just because the majority of GC players don’t make a career out of lax post graduation, doesn’t mean they didn’t have successful collegiate careers.

Have to agree with the original poster on this one. Give GC credit for a quality lacrosse program and strong teams spanning the years, with several decent college impact players, but for all their success as a program, that number of players, you would expect, should be much greater and the impact in college to be much bigger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You also forgot Long Beach and Port Washington, both are better than Lynbrook

Both were better than Manhasset last year as well!!

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

They will just have to be content
Watching their incompetent hapless coaches allow the selfish players
keep their teams from winning a championship.

Go to goal!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle place??
Are you out if your mind?hsm5st

REmember that Carl Placr has won more States than Every other team on the list except Garden City and Mt. Sinai

when was the last time carle place won anything???

Must be thinking field hockey...

Field Hockey ? That's funny. Sad to say but on the island I am not sure you can even consider it a sport. With the exception of GC it is the sport for kids that get cut from soccer. Hate being negative but that is just reality. How many high schools on Long Island even have a team?

You need to check your reality. Field hockey in Suffolk County very competitive, fielding a ton of lacrosse girls in districts from N-port, ESM, WM, SE and Sachem East and many more.

Sorry but field hockey on LI is the equivalent of girls lacrosse in Arizona; not really competitive.

I would rather watch bowling then have to sit through an entire field hockey game, it's just unwatchable

Must be thinking field hockey...[/quote]

Field Hockey ? That's funny. Sad to say but on the island I am not sure you can even consider it a sport. With the exception of GC it is the sport for kids that get cut from soccer. Hate being negative but that is just reality. How many high schools on Long Island even have a team?

[/quote]
You need to check your reality. Field hockey in Suffolk County very competitive, fielding a ton of lacrosse girls in districts from N-port, ESM, WM, SE and Sachem East and many more. [/quote]

Sorry but field hockey on LI is the equivalent of girls lacrosse in Arizona; not really competitive.[/quote]

All the best lacrosse athletes in Suffolk play field hockey in the fall, the rest suffer through soccer along with the other creampuffs. Heck, there is a reason it's the first sport available for kids to play at 3 years old. The only thing girls learn in soccer is how to flop. Now that I say that, it must be a big sport down in MD, flop capital of the world.

As my soccer-playing kids said: friends don't let friends play field hockey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather watch bowling then have to sit through an entire field hockey game, it's just unwatchable

I like watching field hockey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Not on LI its not. Me Me Me. Such a shame

Not on the teams that win. The sad part is that the parents, players and the coaches who allow selfish play dot not realize how detrimental it is to the team. One selfish player can negatively impact a team two or three will destroy any chance of winning a championship. But hey, if Precious scores a few goals all is well in the world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Not on LI its not. Me Me Me. Such a shame

Not on the teams that win. The sad part is that the parents, players and the coaches who allow selfish play dot not realize how detrimental it is to the team. One selfish player can negatively impact a team two or three will destroy any chance of winning a championship. But hey, if Precious scores a few goals all is well in the world.

You automatically assume if a player has a lot of goals that she is a ball hog. That's not the case. Not everyone can put it in the net. Wake up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Not on LI its not. Me Me Me. Such a shame

Not on the teams that win. The sad part is that the parents, players and the coaches who allow selfish play dot not realize how detrimental it is to the team. One selfish player can negatively impact a team two or three will destroy any chance of winning a championship. But hey, if Precious scores a few goals all is well in the world.

You automatically assume if a player has a lot of goals that she is a ball hog. That's not the case. Not everyone can put it in the net. Wake up!

Where was Ball Hog mentioned? Where did it say anything negative about a player scoring a lot of goals being a bad thing?

The post referred to "selfish play" as being a detriment to the team. Teams with coaches who permit selfish play will not win a championship. If you can not identify selfish play you must not understand the sport. So keep telling your daughter to "put it in the net" . Good coaches do not discourage players from scoring , but they do not tolerate selfish play. You are a little sensitive and defensive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Not on LI its not. Me Me Me. Such a shame

Not on the teams that win. The sad part is that the parents, players and the coaches who allow selfish play dot not realize how detrimental it is to the team. One selfish player can negatively impact a team two or three will destroy any chance of winning a championship. But hey, if Precious scores a few goals all is well in the world.

You automatically assume if a player has a lot of goals that she is a ball hog. That's not the case. Not everyone can put it in the net. Wake up!

Where was Ball Hog mentioned? Where did it say anything negative about a player scoring a lot of goals being a bad thing?

The post referred to "selfish play" as being a detriment to the team. Teams with coaches who permit selfish play will not win a championship. If you can not identify selfish play you must not understand the sport. So keep telling your daughter to "put it in the net" . Good coaches do not discourage players from scoring , but they do not tolerate selfish play. You are a little sensitive and defensive.

Have to agree as It cost our team a shot at a championship last year.

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

How bout we trade our coach who never played, cant catch/throw a ball with a stick and thinks her biggest qualification to coach lax is that she coached bball?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Not on LI its not. Me Me Me. Such a shame

Not on the teams that win. The sad part is that the parents, players and the coaches who allow selfish play dot not realize how detrimental it is to the team. One selfish player can negatively impact a team two or three will destroy any chance of winning a championship. But hey, if Precious scores a few goals all is well in the world.

You automatically assume if a player has a lot of goals that she is a ball hog. That's not the case. Not everyone can put it in the net. Wake up!

Where was Ball Hog mentioned? Where did it say anything negative about a player scoring a lot of goals being a bad thing?

The post referred to "selfish play" as being a detriment to the team. Teams with coaches who permit selfish play will not win a championship. If you can not identify selfish play you must not understand the sport. So keep telling your daughter to "put it in the net" . Good coaches do not discourage players from scoring , but they do not tolerate selfish play. You are a little sensitive and defensive.

Ok genius.... what constitutes selfish play? Tell your daughter to practice more....or that might not even help her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

That organization has the best players, not sure about the best coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Momofthree

Ummm... lacrosse is a team game. A concept so many of you struggle with.

Not on LI its not. Me Me Me. Such a shame

Not on the teams that win. The sad part is that the parents, players and the coaches who allow selfish play dot not realize how detrimental it is to the team. One selfish player can negatively impact a team two or three will destroy any chance of winning a championship. But hey, if Precious scores a few goals all is well in the world.

You automatically assume if a player has a lot of goals that she is a ball hog. That's not the case. Not everyone can put it in the net. Wake up!

Where was Ball Hog mentioned? Where did it say anything negative about a player scoring a lot of goals being a bad thing?

The post referred to "selfish play" as being a detriment to the team. Teams with coaches who permit selfish play will not win a championship. If you can not identify selfish play you must not understand the sport. So keep telling your daughter to "put it in the net" . Good coaches do not discourage players from scoring , but they do not tolerate selfish play. You are a little sensitive and defensive.

Ok genius.... what constitutes selfish play? Tell your daughter to practice more....or that might not even help her.

Another meathead who knows very little. Not sure why I am bothering to answer as I am not the one who's post you are responding to but here you go.

How about not working off ball to help your teammates? How about standing around doing nothing when you do not have the ball? How about getting in the way of your teammates? How about not setting picks? How about not redefending with the same effort as you use when going to the goal? How bout not communicating? How about jogging or better yet walking when you should be sprinting? How about being out of position while off-ball when playing D? How about not sliding? How about looking to the official with palms up after you have a turnover instead of hustling to get back on D? How about holding the ball when it should be moved? How about clogging the 8? How about not understang what the coach wants you do do? How about running the ball for 30 or 40 yards when teammates are open up the field? How about trying to run through three girls? How about taking poor shots that result in easy saves (turnovers)? How about just being lazy when you are not going to the goal with the ball in your stick? How about not backing up a shot? How about simply being out of position?

Lazy play is selfish play and selfish play will always hurt the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

Most coaches care about winning and little else

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

Most coaches care about winning and little else

And selfish play will not help them win when it matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

Most coaches care about winning and little else

And selfish play will not help them win when it matters.

for some it will, only time will tell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

Most coaches care about winning and little else

And selfish play will not help them win when it matters.

for some it will, only time will tell

Time has told and it doesn't work .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

Most coaches care about winning and little else

And selfish play will not help them win when it matters.

for some it will, only time will tell

Time has told and it doesn't work .

Ridiculous ,people call it selfish play when it’s not their kid and they lose .The same style of play is called good team play when successful. Look at SB they run their offense thru one player 90 percent of the time which if the same thing went on at a team with a 500 record everyone would say it’s because of selfish play. SS was a complete ball hog in her day but because they were successful it was accepted if not promoted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a YJ coach who has brought the toxic me first, ball hogging, no subbing to our HS

Can't wait for the season!

You have a weak coach who also happens to coach in the YJ program. There are some very good coaches in that organization. Sorry your daughter has to play for one who is not very good.

good coaches will nip selfish play in the bud.

Most coaches care about winning and little else

And selfish play will not help them win when it matters.

for some it will, only time will tell

Time has told and it doesn't work .

If you don't think 2-3 players and a good goalie can't control a game I don't know what you've been watching. The vast majority of HS teams and college for that matter have 3-4 kids with 70-80% of the points. Please let me know the dominant teams who don't get the vast majority of their scoring from 2-4 players

Ridiculous ,people call it selfish play when it’s not their kid and they lose .The same style of play is called good team play when successful. Look at SB they run their offense thru one player 90 percent of the time which if the same thing went on at a team with a 500 record everyone would say it’s because of selfish play. SS was a complete ball hog in her day but because they were successful it was accepted if not promoted.
[/quote]

Because this is the HS thread and we are talking about HS teams here, are you telling me that WB was or is a successful program? LOL. Yes they have some big names that come out of that school, and yes it is because they feed the players a heavy dose of go to goal isolation and numbers get recognized. 5 kids scoring 20 goals each is the same thing as 1 girl scoring 100 goals, but that wouldn't make a superstar out of a chosen one. WB is far from successful as a program, especially considering the superstars that have come out of there, and their play and is about as far to one end of the spectrum to ball hogging as you will ever see on a team.

Ridiculous ,people call it selfish play when it’s not their kid and they lose .The same style of play is called good team play when successful. Look at SB they run their offense thru one player 90 percent of the time which if the same thing went on at a team with a 500 record everyone would say it’s because of selfish play. SS was a complete ball hog in her day but because they were successful it was accepted if not promoted.
[/quote]
SB may run their offense thru one player but SB has [2] other players that scored 100 goals {2016} and 68 goals {2017}. KO is the best QB in the game. She's not just swishing....she's also dishing. Nothing selfish about their offense. Yes....too many HS teams have superstars that score a ton of goals. But for every goal, is a bad turnover or two due to a forced shots. HS players and coaches could learn a lot from SB's offense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous ,people call it selfish play when it’s not their kid and they lose .The same style of play is called good team play when successful. Look at SB they run their offense thru one player 90 percent of the time which if the same thing went on at a team with a 500 record everyone would say it’s because of selfish play. SS was a complete ball hog in her day but because they were successful it was accepted if not promoted.

SB may run their offense thru one player but SB has [2] other players that scored 100 goals {2016} and 68 goals {2017}. KO is the best QB in the game. She's not just swishing....she's also dishing. Nothing selfish about their offense. Yes....too many HS teams have superstars that score a ton of goals. But for every goal, is a bad turnover or two due to a forced shots. HS players and coaches could learn a lot from SB's offense. [/quote]

Swishing and dishing? What is wrong with you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous ,people call it selfish play when it’s not their kid and they lose .The same style of play is called good team play when successful. Look at SB they run their offense thru one player 90 percent of the time which if the same thing went on at a team with a 500 record everyone would say it’s because of selfish play. SS was a complete ball hog in her day but because they were successful it was accepted if not promoted.

SB may run their offense thru one player but SB has [2] other players that scored 100 goals {2016} and 68 goals {2017}. KO is the best QB in
the game. She's not just swishing....she's also dishing. Nothing selfish about their offense. Yes....too many HS teams have superstars that score a ton of goals. But for every goal, is a bad turnover or two due to a forced shots. HS players and coaches could learn a lot from SB's offense. [/quote]

So when KO and TO played the same way in high school but had no real supporting cast around them so were unsuccessful it was ball hogging but now when they do the same thing in college but have a good supporting cast it’s something to emulate . It’s why I think these experts that are on here saying teams that don’t spread the ball around are never successful , sometimes they are sometimes they aren’t .

Clyde Frazier now on BotC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous ,people call it selfish play when it’s not their kid and they lose .The same style of play is called good team play when successful. Look at SB they run their offense thru one player 90 percent of the time which if the same thing went on at a team with a 500 record everyone would say it’s because of selfish play. SS was a complete ball hog in her day but because they were successful it was accepted if not promoted.

SB may run their offense thru one player but SB has [2] other players that scored 100 goals {2016} and 68 goals {2017}. KO is the best QB in the game. She's not just swishing....she's also dishing. Nothing selfish about their offense. Yes....too many HS teams have superstars that score a ton of goals. But for every goal, is a bad turnover or two due to a forced shots. HS players and coaches could learn a lot from SB's offense.

Swishing and dishing? What is wrong with you?[/quote]
Sorry....scoring and passing. Hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me.

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

KO has more assists than goals. Sorry your head hurts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie . We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie . We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie .
We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

First , if you cannot tell that the response is to the quoted previous statement you may want to put the bottle down.
Second, the quoted post is all opinion and if you cannot understand that you may want to get whoever your caregiver is to explain that to you.
Do I think selfish play helps a team ? Yes at times it does help a team, if you have a player who is a dominant player and they keep driving to the goal there are times it will help the team .I will make it simple for you ,if you have Michael Jordan on your team you want him to be selfish with the ball .
As far as the post saying nothing about scoring they mention stats in Newsday ,scoring is one of those stats you dope, so in reality they do mention scoring.
Please stop posting you just make yourself look more ignorant each time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie .
We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

First , if you cannot tell that the response is to the quoted previous statement you may want to put the bottle down.
Second, the quoted post is all opinion and if you cannot understand that you may want to get whoever your caregiver is to explain that to you.
Do I think selfish play helps a team ? Yes at times it does help a team, if you have a player who is a dominant player and they keep driving to the goal there are times it will help the team .I will make it simple for you ,if you have Michael Jordan on your team you want him to be selfish with the ball .
As far as the post saying nothing about scoring they mention stats in Newsday ,scoring is one of those stats you dope, so in reality they do mention scoring.
Please stop posting you just make yourself look more ignorant each time.

You just picked the best player of all-time in the NBA...of course you want him taking all the shots...only problem with your theory, most of the selfish girls think they're Jordan, but they play like Doug McDermott.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie .
We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

First , if you cannot tell that the response is to the quoted previous statement you may want to put the bottle down.
Second, the quoted post is all opinion and if you cannot understand that you may want to get whoever your caregiver is to explain that to you.
Do I think selfish play helps a team ? Yes at times it does help a team, if you have a player who is a dominant player and they keep driving to the goal there are times it will help the team .I will make it simple for you ,if you have Michael Jordan on your team you want him to be selfish with the ball .
As far as the post saying nothing about scoring they mention stats in Newsday ,scoring is one of those stats you dope, so in reality they do mention scoring.
Please stop posting you just make yourself look more ignorant each time.

You just picked the best player of all-time in the NBA...of course you want him taking all the shots...only problem with your theory, most of the selfish girls think they're Jordan, but they play like Doug McDermott.

Pass the ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie .
We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

First , if you cannot tell that the response is to the quoted previous statement you may want to put the bottle down.
Second, the quoted post is all opinion and if you cannot understand that you may want to get whoever your caregiver is to explain that to you.
Do I think selfish play helps a team ? Yes at times it does help a team, if you have a player who is a dominant player and they keep driving to the goal there are times it will help the team .I will make it simple for you ,if you have Michael Jordan on your team you want him to be selfish with the ball .
As far as the post saying nothing about scoring they mention stats in Newsday ,scoring is one of those stats you dope, so in reality they do mention scoring.
Please stop posting you just make yourself look more ignorant each time.

Yes the person gave opinion but did not give his/her opinion defining "selfish play". In fact it was stated that selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. I believe the post was implying that knowing who scores the goals is not the same as understanding the game. Much like the arm chair quarterback, who has all the answers but in reality knows very little about the game. Scoring goals is not indicative of selfish play.

I think that your post has just illustrated one of the major problems with Girls HS Lacrosse. Many parents only see the goals. They can not distinguish the difference between a well orchestrated attack with all 7 players involved and one girl driving to the goal.
Another major problem is the lack of quality coaching. Good coaches will not tolerate selfish play. Lack of talent also creates issues. Put a strong goal scorer on a weak team with no depth and a bad coach and they have no choice to be selfish. But that Team will not win any championships.

The main issue is that most parents have no understanding of the game, all they see is the goal (but that does not stop them from coaching their daughter). Just like when they watch the Super Bowl, they will see Tom Brady throw a touchdown and many will think they understand football and can coach their son to be a quarterback. They have now idea of what the other players on the field should be doing or what their responsibilities are. They do not know what the QB' pre-snap reads are, they do not know if he audibled, they do not know how he will exploited the coverage, they do not know why he made the decision to target that receiver etc.. I do not know any of those things either but I don't sit up in the stands and yell throw the touchdown pass. Nor do I as, why is my son not the QB, why can't he throw the pass?

Based upon your comments it is evident that you value going to the goal above all else and that you have very little understanding of the game. Michael Jordan was not a selfish player and neither were his teammates. They worked together to win games, they wanted him taking the shots and they worked as a unit to get the job done. He also had many assists and steals, he hustled and played defense and he rarely turned the ball over (and when he did he hustled to get it back). Contrast that with a girl who only hustles when she is going to the goal and all she does when she does not have the ball is call for the ball. Watch as she does not communicate defensively or slide. Watch as she jogs to get back on D. Watch as she does not hustle while redefending. Watch her get in the way of her teammates when she doesn't have the ball. Watch her turn it over while trying to run through two or three defenders. Watch when she is out of position while off ball on both end s of the field. Watch all of the lazy BS lead to the other team scoring goals, watch as the player and the parents do not even understand that it is a problem and then watch them when little Susie scores a goal.... that is the only thing they will see.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter selfish play is a good thing. If she is going to play for a decent college program let me know how that works out for her.

Please tell the rest of the parents of the selfish players that their daughter is not Michael Jordan.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie .
We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

First , if you cannot tell that the response is to the quoted previous statement you may want to put the bottle down.
Second, the quoted post is all opinion and if you cannot understand that you may want to get whoever your caregiver is to explain that to you.
Do I think selfish play helps a team ? Yes at times it does help a team, if you have a player who is a dominant player and they keep driving to the goal there are times it will help the team .I will make it simple for you ,if you have Michael Jordan on your team you want him to be selfish with the ball .
As far as the post saying nothing about scoring they mention stats in Newsday ,scoring is one of those stats you dope, so in reality they do mention scoring.
Please stop posting you just make yourself look more ignorant each time.

Yes the person gave opinion but did not give his/her opinion defining "selfish play". In fact it was stated that selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. I believe the post was implying that knowing who scores the goals is not the same as understanding the game. Much like the arm chair quarterback, who has all the answers but in reality knows very little about the game. Scoring goals is not indicative of selfish play.

I think that your post has just illustrated one of the major problems with Girls HS Lacrosse. Many parents only see the goals. They can not distinguish the difference between a well orchestrated attack with all 7 players involved and one girl driving to the goal.
Another major problem is the lack of quality coaching. Good coaches will not tolerate selfish play. Lack of talent also creates issues. Put a strong goal scorer on a weak team with no depth and a bad coach and they have no choice to be selfish. But that Team will not win any championships.

The main issue is that most parents have no understanding of the game, all they see is the goal (but that does not stop them from coaching their daughter). Just like when they watch the Super Bowl, they will see Tom Brady throw a touchdown and many will think they understand football and can coach their son to be a quarterback. They have now idea of what the other players on the field should be doing or what their responsibilities are. They do not know what the QB' pre-snap reads are, they do not know if he audibled, they do not know how he will exploited the coverage, they do not know why he made the decision to target that receiver etc.. I do not know any of those things either but I don't sit up in the stands and yell throw the touchdown pass. Nor do I as, why is my son not the QB, why can't he throw the pass?

Based upon your comments it is evident that you value going to the goal above all else and that you have very little understanding of the game. Michael Jordan was not a selfish player and neither were his teammates. They worked together to win games, they wanted him taking the shots and they worked as a unit to get the job done. He also had many assists and steals, he hustled and played defense and he rarely turned the ball over (and when he did he hustled to get it back). Contrast that with a girl who only hustles when she is going to the goal and all she does when she does not have the ball is call for the ball. Watch as she does not communicate defensively or slide. Watch as she jogs to get back on D. Watch as she does not hustle while redefending. Watch her get in the way of her teammates when she doesn't have the ball. Watch her turn it over while trying to run through two or three defenders. Watch when she is out of position while off ball on both end s of the field. Watch all of the lazy BS lead to the other team scoring goals, watch as the player and the parents do not even understand that it is a problem and then watch them when little Susie scores a goal.... that is the only thing they will see.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter selfish play is a good thing. If she is going to play for a decent college program let me know how that works out for her.

Please tell the rest of the parents of the selfish players that their daughter is not Michael Jordan.

Actually you missed the point of several of the posts. I will try to make it simple for you, sometimes selfish play helps a team sometimes it does not. What is annoying is posters like you who think they are experts on what the best programs and coaches teach when in reality they have no idea. Your intolerably long replies hint at a narcissistic personality disorder which goes hand in hand with your sense of what selfish play is and why successful teams never allow it. "Good coaches will not tolerate selfish play", actually at times good coaches encourage selfish play and at times they discourage selfish play .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the
only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie .
We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

First , if you cannot tell that the response is to the quoted previous statement you may want to put the bottle down.
Second, the quoted post is all opinion and if you cannot understand that you may want to get whoever your caregiver is to explain that to you.
Do I think selfish play helps a team ? Yes at times it does help a team, if you have a player who is a dominant player and they keep driving to the goal there are times it will help the team .I will make it simple for you ,if you have Michael Jordan on your team you want him to be selfish with the ball .
As far as the post saying nothing about scoring they mention stats in Newsday ,scoring is one of those stats you dope, so in reality they do mention scoring.
Please stop posting you just make yourself look more ignorant each time.

Yes the person gave opinion but did not give his/her opinion defining "selfish play". In fact it was stated that selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. I believe the post was implying that knowing who scores the goals is not the same as understanding the game. Much like the arm chair quarterback, who has all the answers but in reality knows very little about the game. Scoring goals is not indicative of selfish play.

I think that your post has just illustrated one of the major problems with Girls HS Lacrosse. Many parents only see the goals. They can not distinguish the difference between a well orchestrated attack with all 7 players involved and one girl driving to the goal.
Another major problem is the lack of quality coaching. Good coaches will not tolerate selfish play. Lack of talent also creates issues. Put a strong goal scorer on a weak team with no depth and a bad coach and they have no choice to be selfish. But that Team will not win any championships.

The main issue is that most parents have no understanding of the game, all they see is the goal (but that does not stop them from coaching their daughter). Just like when they watch the Super Bowl, they will see Tom Brady throw a touchdown and many will think they understand football and can coach their son to be a quarterback. They have now idea of what the other players on the field should be doing or what their responsibilities are. They do not know what the QB' pre-snap reads are, they do not know if he audibled, they do not know how he will exploited the coverage, they do not know why he made the decision to target that receiver etc.. I do not know any of those things either but I don't sit up in the stands and yell throw the touchdown pass. Nor do I as, why is my son not the QB, why can't he throw the pass?

Based upon your comments it is evident that you value going to the goal above all else and that you have very little understanding of the game. Michael Jordan was not a selfish player and neither were his teammates. They worked together to win games, they wanted him taking the shots and they worked as a unit to get the job done. He also had many assists and steals, he hustled and played defense and he rarely turned the ball over (and when he did he hustled to get it back). Contrast that with a girl who only hustles when she is going to the goal and all she does when she does not have the ball is call for the ball. Watch as she does not communicate defensively or slide. Watch as she jogs to get back on D. Watch as she does not hustle while redefending. Watch her get in the way of her teammates when she doesn't have the ball. Watch her turn it over while trying to run through two or three defenders. Watch when she is out of position while off ball on both end s of the field. Watch all of the lazy BS lead to the other team scoring goals, watch as the player and the parents do not even understand that it is a problem and then watch them when little Susie scores a goal.... that is the only thing they will see.

Keep telling yourself and your daughter selfish play is a good thing. If she is going to play for a decent college program let me know how that works out for her.

Please tell the rest of the parents of the selfish players that their daughter is not Michael Jordan.

Actually you missed the point of several of the posts. I will try to make it simple for you, sometimes selfish play helps a team sometimes it does not. What is annoying is posters like you who think they are experts on what the best programs and coaches teach when in reality they have no idea. Your intolerably long replies hint at a narcissistic personality disorder which goes hand in hand with your sense of what selfish play is and why successful teams never allow it. "Good coaches will not tolerate selfish play", actually at times good coaches encourage selfish play and at times they discourage selfish play .

The post was long but it was accurate. I think the poster understands that people like you do not understand the game or team sports in general. Good Coaches do not encourage selfish play. They encourage "the appropriate play at the appropriate time". They also have specific concepts, schemes, plays, sets, strategies, philosophies and such that make up the identity of the Team. You will never find a championship team that attributes their success to selfish play. Good coaches often point to selfish play as a reason for their teams failures, shortcomings and losses. Do you think Bill Belichick will tolerate a WR who doesn't put the same effort into blocking as he does receiving?
You don't get it. Go to goal...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop, you are making my head hurt. If you can not identify selfish play please step away from the keyboard. Selfish play takes many forms and hurts the team in many ways. Please go back to reading the stats in Newsday and believing that you now know something about the game. Also, please stop giving you daughters advice on how to play, doing so hurts her team.

Yes because your opinion of what selfish play is the only correct
opinion. Get over yourself you are clueless and sound like the guy who just can’t stand it when someone scores more than your little Susie .
We have all had their deal with people like you who thinks every kid on the team except their own is being selfish .

Who are you responding to? The post that you quoted did not give an opinion yet you are attacking the poster. The post said "selfish play takes many forms" and that it (selfish play) "hurts the team in many ways". Do you disagree? Do you think selfish play helps the team? You then go on to bring up scoring and make another attack when the post said nothing about scoring. Go back on your medication take a class on reading comprehension.

First , if you cannot tell that the response is to the quoted previous statement you may want to put the bottle down.
Second, the quoted post is all opinion and if you cannot understand that you may want to get whoever your caregiver is to explain that to you.
Do I think selfish play helps a team ? Yes at times it does help a team, if you have a player who is a dominant player and they keep driving to the goal there are times it will help the team .I will make it simple for you ,if you have Michael Jordan on your team you want him to be selfish with the ball .
As far as the post saying nothing about scoring they mention stats in Newsday ,scoring is one of those stats you dope, so in reality they do mention scoring.

Please stop posting you just make yourself look more ignorant each time.

You are arrogant and condescending but you know very little about team sports. I hope you have not passed your ugly traits on to your children. Hopefully your daughter has a good coach that will re-teach her.

Rest assured, he is the same J-off screaming "go to goal" to little Susie every time she has the ball...

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

What did you expect him to say? I'm going to ride KO as far as she will take us?

Bottom line regarding "selfish" play is that those are the kids the college coaches recruit first, it's a lot easier to adjust an overly aggressive player to your system than vis-versa. Camps. clinics and games all the coaches want to see is the kid that will run through a wall to get it done, those tend to be the "selfish" players described in this thread. I'm not saying it's the right way to go, but if it's about getting into a school with a top program, those kids are the first to get recruited. Unfortunately, too many parents think their kid is the one and are mistaken, but for the legit players they will be rewarded with offers from all the top programs and they could care less about your kids HS experience with the ball hog.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

What did you expect him to say? I'm going to ride KO as far as she will take us?

Bottom line regarding "selfish" play is that those are the kids the college coaches recruit first, it's a lot easier to adjust an overly aggressive player to your system than vis-versa. Camps. clinics and games all the coaches want to see is the kid that will run through a wall to get it done, those tend to be the "selfish" players described in this thread. I'm not saying it's the right way to go, but if it's about getting into a school with a top program, those kids are the first to get recruited. Unfortunately, too many parents think their kid is the one and are mistaken, but for the legit players they will be rewarded with offers from all the top programs and they could care less about your kids HS experience with the ball hog.

This is why we have the problem with selfish play. Many parents who do not know what they are talking about tell (coach) their kids to "go to goal" because they believe that is what college coaches look at. They do not understand the game and they believe as stated in the post above that college coaches look for selfish players first. Not true at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

What did you expect him to say? I'm going to ride KO as far as she will take us?

Bottom line regarding "selfish" play is that those are the kids the college coaches recruit first, it's a lot easier to adjust an overly aggressive player to your system than vis-versa. Camps. clinics and games all the coaches want to see is the kid that will run through a wall to get it done, those tend to be the "selfish" players described in this thread. I'm not saying it's the right way to go, but if it's about getting into a school with a top program, those kids are the first to get recruited. Unfortunately, too many parents think their kid is the one and are mistaken, but for the legit players they will be rewarded with offers from all the top programs and they could care less about your kids HS experience with the ball hog.

This is why we have the problem with selfish play. Many parents who do not know what they are talking about tell (coach) their kids to "go to goal" because they believe that is what college coaches look at. They do not understand the game and they believe as stated in the post above that college coaches look for selfish players first. Not true at all.

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Top 10

Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM
Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport
Lynbrook - Wantagh - St Anthony's - Smithtown East - Smithtown West

Lynbrook ? Southside,Syosset, North Shore, Kellenberg, Carle Pl, SHA, West Babylon mattituck, riverhead,as well as others,l are better . Also left Ward Melville off your List

Port Washington beat Lynbrook by 10, beat Long Beach, beat Manhasset,beat Syosset in semis and lost to Massapequa in OT in A final. I think they should be on that list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

What did you expect him to say? I'm going
to ride KO as far as she will take us?

Bottom line regarding "selfish" play is that those are the kids the college coaches recruit first, it's a lot easier to adjust an overly aggressive player to your system than vis-versa. Camps. clinics and games all the coaches want to see is the kid that will run through a wall to get it done, those tend to be the "selfish" players described in this thread. I'm not saying it's the right way to go, but if it's about getting into a school with a top program, those kids are the first to get recruited. Unfortunately, too many parents think their kid is the one and are mistaken, but for the legit players they will be rewarded with offers from all the top programs and they could care less about your kids HS experience with the ball hog.

This is why we have the problem with selfish play. Many parents who do not know what they are talking about tell (coach) their kids to "go to goal" because they believe that is what college coaches look at. They do not understand the game and they believe as stated in the post above that college coaches look for selfish players first. Not true at all.

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list

And yet another who can not understand that scoring goals does not always mean the player is a ball hog.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

What did you expect him to say? I'm going
to ride KO as far as she will take us?

Bottom line regarding "selfish" play is that those are the kids the college coaches recruit first, it's a lot easier to adjust an overly aggressive player to your system than vis-versa. Camps. clinics and games all the coaches want to see is the kid that will run through a wall to get it done, those tend to be the "selfish" players described in this thread. I'm not saying it's the right way to go, but if it's about getting into a school with a top program, those kids are the first to get recruited. Unfortunately, too many parents think their kid is the one and are mistaken, but for the legit players they will be rewarded with offers from all the top programs and they could care less about your kids HS experience with the ball hog.

This is why we have the problem with selfish play. Many parents who do not know what they are talking about tell (coach) their kids to "go to goal" because they believe that is what college coaches look at. They do not understand the game and they believe as stated in the post above that college coaches look for selfish players first. Not true at all.

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list

And yet another who can not understand that scoring goals does not always mean the player is a ball hog.

I agree!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

What did you expect him to say? I'm going to ride KO as far as she will take us?

Bottom line regarding "selfish" play is that those are the kids the college coaches recruit first, it's a lot easier to adjust an overly aggressive player to your system than vis-versa. Camps. clinics and games all the coaches want to see is the kid that will run through a wall to get it done, those tend to be the "selfish" players described in this thread. I'm not saying it's the right way to go, but if it's about getting into a school with a top program, those kids are the first to get recruited. Unfortunately, too many parents think their kid is the one and are mistaken, but for the legit players they will be rewarded with offers from all the top programs and they could care less about your kids HS experience with the ball hog.

This is why we have the problem with selfish play. Many parents who do not know what they are talking about tell (coach) their kids to "go to goal" because they believe that is what college coaches look at. They do not understand the game and they believe as stated in the post above that college coaches look for selfish players first. Not true at all.

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list

My daughter is a 2019. Know most of the top girls. Looking at the IL list I would say that is not true. Of course there are a few. But most are amazing players that make the players around them better. In a few cases, their #1 strengths are great passing. I would say of the top 20, at most 3 or 4 would be considered ball hoggish. So I think you're wrong.

And of the commits where my daughter is attending, which I think most would consider a top program, there is not one I would consider a ball hog.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS Quote in USLavrosse Magazine:
Stony Brook "will operate as a complete outfit with each position complementing the other. It is about finally putting together a complete picture."

I did not notice him saying our girls are going to be selfish and play as individuals.

What did you expect him to say? I'm going to ride KO as far as she will take us?

Bottom line regarding "selfish" play is that those are the kids the college coaches recruit first, it's a lot easier to adjust an overly aggressive player to your system than vis-versa. Camps. clinics and games all the coaches want to see is the kid that will run through a wall to get it done, those tend to be the "selfish" players described in this thread. I'm not saying it's the right way to go, but if it's about getting into a school with a top program, those kids are the first to get recruited. Unfortunately, too many parents think their kid is the one and are mistaken, but for the legit players they will be rewarded with offers from all the top programs and they could care less about your kids HS experience with the ball hog.

This is why we have the problem with selfish play. Many parents who do not know what they are talking about tell (coach) their kids to "go to goal" because they believe that is what college coaches look at. They do not understand the game and they believe as stated in the post above that college coaches look for selfish players first. Not true at all.

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list

My daughter is a 2019. Know most of the top girls. Looking at the IL list I would say that is not true. Of course there are a few. But most are amazing players that make the players around them better. In a few cases, their #1 strengths are great passing. I would say of the top 20, at most 3 or 4 would be considered ball hoggish. So I think you're wrong.

And of the commits where my daughter is attending, which I think most would consider a top program, there is not one I would consider a ball hog.

Exactly, I am familiar with the some of the older classes (16's, 18's and to some degree the 17's). The majority of the best players in each class do a lot more than score goals.The problem is that many of the parents of players who are not on IL's list and were not top recruits think the only way to get on the list is to score a lot of goals. They do not value other aspects of the game. In my experience, the best college programs recruit athletes and complete players who hustle and do many things well. Some happen to be big time goal scorers but that is not all they do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Top 10

Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM

Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport
Lynbrook - Wantagh - St Anthony's - Smithtown East - Smithtown West

Lynbrook ? Southside,Syosset, North Shore, Kellenberg, Carle Pl, SHA, West Babylon mattituck, riverhead,as well as others,l are better . Also left Ward Melville off your List

Port Washington beat Lynbrook by 10, beat Long Beach, beat Manhasset,beat Syosset in semis and lost to Massapequa in OT in A final. I think they should be on that list.

Top 10

Port Washington
Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM
Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Top 10

Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM

Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport
Lynbrook - Wantagh - St Anthony's - Smithtown East - Smithtown West

Lynbrook ? Southside,Syosset, North Shore, Kellenberg, Carle Pl, SHA, West Babylon mattituck, riverhead,as well as others,l are better . Also left Ward Melville off your List

Port Washington beat Lynbrook by 10, beat Long Beach, beat Manhasset,beat Syosset in semis and lost to Massapequa in OT in A final. I think they should be on that list.

Top 10

Port Washington
Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM
Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport

I would replace Port with OB

What about Ward Melville?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Ward Melville?

agreed. I believe this is the strongest team they have and my be their last shot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Ward Melville?

no

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list[/quote]

My daughter is a 2019. Know most of the top girls. Looking at the IL list I would say that is not true. Of course there are a few. But most are amazing players that make the players around them better. In a few cases, their #1 strengths are great passing. I would say of the top 20, at most 3 or 4 would be considered ball hoggish. So I think you're wrong.

And of the commits where my daughter is attending, which I think most would consider a top program, there is not one I would consider a ball hog.[/quote]

Exactly, I am familiar with the some of the older classes (16's, 18's and to some degree the 17's). The majority of the best players in each class do a lot more than score goals.The problem is that many of the parents of players who are not on IL's list and were not top recruits think the only way to get on the list is to score a lot of goals. They do not value other aspects of the game. In my experience, the best college programs recruit athletes and complete players who hustle and do many things well. Some happen to be big time goal scorers but that is not all they do. [/quote]

Two most underrated (by most parents) attributes of highly recruited players are field vision and off-ball IQ. Parents don't notice the girl who makes a great clear through at exactly the right time which allows the girl with the ball an easy drive to net. Coaches do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list

My daughter is a 2019. Know most of the top girls. Looking at the IL list I would say that is not true. Of course there are a few. But most are amazing players that make the players around them better. In a few cases, their #1 strengths are great passing. I would say of the top 20, at most 3 or 4 would be considered ball hoggish. So I think you're wrong.

And of the commits where my daughter is attending, which I think most would consider a top program, there is not one I would consider a ball
hog.[/quote]

Exactly, I am familiar with the some of the older classes (16's, 18's and to some degree the 17's). The majority of the best players in each class do a lot more than score goals.The problem is that many of the parents of players who are not on IL's list and were not top recruits think the only way to get on the list is to score a lot of goals. They do not value other aspects of the game. In my experience, the best college programs recruit athletes and complete players who hustle and do many things well. Some happen to be big time goal scorers but that is not all they do. [/quote]

Two most underrated (by most parents) attributes of highly recruited players are field vision and off-ball IQ. Parents don't notice the girl who makes a great clear through at exactly the right time which allows the girl with the ball an easy drive to net. Coaches do.
[/quote]

Get over yourself ,”makes a great clear through” is funny enough , “at exactly the right time “ just makes it better. Call this bragging or whatever but my kid was a top 10 ranked recruit ( I think the rankings are nonsense) and could have gone wherever. The reason why in my opinion are she was athletic, aggressive , and a bit of a ball hog .Is what it is but if you don’t think a lot of the top recruits are the alphas and could care less about clearing through so some other kid can score you are just not paying attention.They want kids who put it in the back of th net.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Believe whatever you need to, but look at the early recruits in your daughters grade or any other class and you will see those dreaded ball hogs are at the top of the list

My daughter is a 2019. Know most of the top girls. Looking at the IL list I would say that is not true. Of course there are a few. But most are amazing players that make the players around them better. In a few cases, their #1 strengths are great passing. I would say of the top 20, at most 3 or 4 would be considered ball hoggish. So I think you're wrong.

And of the commits where my daughter is attending, which I think most would consider a top program, there is not one I would consider a ball
hog.

Exactly, I am familiar with the some of the older classes (16's, 18's and to some degree the 17's). The majority of the best players in each class do a lot more than score goals.The problem is that many of the parents of players who are not on IL's list and were not top recruits think the only way to get on the list is to score a lot of goals. They do not value other aspects of the game. In my experience, the best college programs recruit athletes and complete players who hustle and do many things well. Some happen to be big time goal scorers but that is not all they do. [/quote]

Two most underrated (by most parents) attributes of highly recruited players are field vision and off-ball IQ. Parents don't notice the girl who makes a great clear through at exactly the right time which allows the girl with the ball an easy drive to net. Coaches do.
[/quote]

Get over yourself ,”makes a great clear through” is funny enough , “at exactly the right time “ just makes it better. Call this bragging or whatever but my kid was a top 10 ranked recruit ( I think the rankings are nonsense) and could have gone wherever. The reason why in my opinion are she was athletic, aggressive , and a bit of a ball hog .Is what it is but if you don’t think a lot of the top recruits are the alphas and could care less about clearing through so some other kid can score you are just not paying attention.They want kids who put it in the back of th net.[/quote]

Yeah your kid wasn't. Sorry. Talk about funny. You're clueless.

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor, making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor, making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

well said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor, making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

Agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor, making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two
that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

Agree.

Spot on. Too bad many parents and HS coaches do not get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor, making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two
that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals
against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

Agree.

Spot on. Too bad many parents and HS coaches do not get it.

The best player on my daughters team fits your description very well. Although not the number one recruit in the country she was by far the top recruit on the team. Many of the parents could not understand it simply because they do not understand the game.

Until they do away with LI Newsday that publishes the point leaders and colleges that publish kids bios with HS points selfish me first play will continue. I agree with poster above that girls with endless motors are the real deal but on LI we have too many girls that run into a defensive wall, back out and reset, run into a defensive wall, back out and reset, do it again and either score or turn it over.

Most teams have girls that score tons of meaningless goals in their quest to stat pad. Its a beautiful team game when played and coached properly but was too much me first lately

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor, making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two
that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

Agree.

Spot on. Too bad many parents and HS coaches do not get it.

Those are the parents that are living their lives through their daughters. I see it all the time - whenever you see one - either at the gas station, grocery store or the mall - they will tell you all about the 5 or 6 goals their daughter got. Forget about trying to tell them about the nice trail check your older got during fall ball against a top player - that's not a stat and besides - it's only one trail check. Hard to describe yard sales to those morons. Yes, you know who you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Until they do away with LI Newsday that publishes the point leaders and colleges that publish kids bios with HS points selfish me first play will continue. I agree with poster above that girls with endless motors are the real deal but on LI we have too many girls that run into a defensive wall, back out and reset, run into a defensive wall, back out and reset, do it again and either score or turn it over.

Most teams have girls that score tons of meaningless goals in their quest to stat pad. Its a beautiful team game when played and coached properly but was too much me first lately

Yes, there is no shortage of selfish players. However, those players are not the top players. Oh yes, they will be recruited and the parents will consider them top tier but in reality they are not. I have watched the crazies while both of mine went through the recruiting process. While the top players are receiving offers from the best programs and their daughter is not they are beside themselves. They will make excuses and blame coaches and club directors but they will never get it. Some of us understand (where our daughters fall) so when Carolina doesn't come calling we are not surprised. Many do not and they will hate on the players that do receive offers from the top programs. Some people look at stats because they do not know how to evaluate anything else. From what I have seen over the years if you want to know where your daughter stands just take a look at which programs are extending offers. If Maryland, Carolina, Northwestern, Penn State and Florida are beating down the door it is pretty safe to say the player is top tier. If the top programs are not offering... Well, some of us get the picture. Some will make excuses or blame somebody and then tell you she had many offers from the top programs but chose xyz (not top program) instead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Top 10

Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM

Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport
Lynbrook - Wantagh - St Anthony's - Smithtown East - Smithtown West

Lynbrook ? Southside,Syosset, North Shore, Kellenberg, Carle Pl, SHA, West Babylon mattituck, riverhead,as well as others,l are better . Also left Ward Melville off your List

Port Washington beat Lynbrook by 10, beat Long Beach, beat Manhasset,beat Syosset in semis and lost to Massapequa in OT in A final. I think they should be on that list.

Top 10

Port Washington
Garden City
Mt. Sinai
ESM
Manhasset
BBP
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Northport

I would replace Port with OB

OBvious joke. Most OBverrated team by media for years now. Actually now we will see they are not even one level below those schools.

You people crack me up. College coaches look for the best athletes/ best lacrosse players. If the kid is a ball hog they don't care as they think they will be able to rein them in .They could not care less if your kid" makes a great clear through". Even funnier is when they tell you "we recruit families not just players" because they know you bunch of self absorbed fools believe you are the parents that the coaches really like . In reality if your kid can help them win you could be a horror show of a parent and they will still take your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people crack me up. College coaches look for the best athletes/ best lacrosse players. If the kid is a ball hog they don't care as they think they will be able to rein them in .They could not care less if your kid" makes a great clear through". Even funnier is when they tell you "we recruit families not just players" because they know you bunch of self absorbed fools believe you are the parents that the coaches really like . In reality if your kid can help them win you could be a horror show of a parent and they will still take your kid.

I agree they recruit athletes but to imply they are uninterested in goal-scorers or kids with great game sense is misguided. I do believe it is true they will avoid, when possible, parents who are toxic. I have seen coaches walk away from showcase games when a sideline parent is going nuts. Ain't no one got time for that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people crack me up. College coaches look for the best athletes/ best lacrosse players. If the kid is a ball hog they don't care as they think they will be able to rein them in .They could not care less if your kid" makes a great clear through". Even funnier is when they tell you "we recruit families not just players" because they know you bunch of self absorbed fools believe you are the parents that the coaches really like . In reality if your kid can help them win you could be a horror show of a parent and they will still take your kid.

I'm guessing your kid is a selfish player and that you are an A@$ H¥£€# .

You can not even grasp that selfish players are never the "best" lacrosse players and most times not the best athletes. It really amazes me how some parents believe that being selfish makes you a good player. Also amazed by how many of you think every player who scores a lot of goals is a ball hog. I am guessing that you are the same people who will say things like "that's a real head scratcher" when a girl is recruited by top programs (over your daughter) or "that list is a joke, my daughter scores more goals than her".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people crack me up. College coaches look for the best athletes/ best lacrosse players. If the kid is a ball hog they don't care as they think they will be able to rein them in .They could not care less if your kid" makes a great clear through". Even funnier is when they tell you "we recruit families not just players" because they know you bunch of self absorbed fools believe you are the parents that the coaches really like . In reality if your kid can help them win you could be a horror show of a parent and they will still take your kid.

Wow, you are not smart. You say coaches look for best athletes/best lacrosse players (wow AMAZING insight). You're probably running around your mother's basement in your underwear screaming "I burned them with that one!" Put your clothes back on and take a seat. Now try, as best you can, to define best lacrosse player. Maybe with that little brain teaser, you'll start to learn something. And FFS stop screaming "Ma! Ma! Bring me more gummy bears!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people crack me up. College coaches look for the best athletes/ best lacrosse players. If the kid is a ball hog they don't care as they think they will be able to rein them in .They could not care less if your kid" makes a great clear through". Even funnier is when they tell you "we recruit families not just players" because they know you bunch of self absorbed fools believe you are the parents that the coaches really like . In reality if your kid can help them win you could be a horror show of a parent and they will still take your kid.

Wow, you are not smart. You say coaches look for best athletes/best lacrosse players (wow AMAZING insight). You're probably running around your mother's basement in your underwear screaming "I burned them with that one!" Put your clothes back on and take a seat. Now try, as best you can, to define best lacrosse player. Maybe with that little brain teaser, you'll start to learn something. And FFS stop screaming "Ma! Ma! Bring me more gummy bears!"

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor,
making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two
that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals
against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

Agree.

Spot on. Too bad many parents and HS coaches do not get it.

The best player on my daughters team fits your description very well. Although not the number one recruit in the country she was by far the top recruit on the team. Many of the parents could not understand it simply because they do not understand the game.

There are a number of parents and players who will never get it. They will continue to wonder why players like the one described above garner the attention of those who are the most knowledgeable about the sport (top college coaches, IL, UA).

A while back there was a post that identified some of the top players from the Island by class in recent years. Some people took offense to the list. One post in particular annoyed me so I would like to respond. below is the quote.

- "Those lists are pretty good, could add or drop a couple, and move a few in order, but still pretty good. Since I am familiar with all the years, I do find it interesting that a few of these years had some of the early recruits that were supposed to be top of the age groups when they committed, and now you really don't hear about them much, not just this silly list, but overall in lacrosse."

I just saw IL's Preseason All American List and recognized many of the names were the same names as the players on the list that you were referring to.

Of the 2015 class four of the six players listed are currently on the All American list. The other two are doing very well.
Of the 2016 class three of the seven are currently listed on the All American list. Two of the others started just about every game last year and did very well. The other two who happen to play at the two toughest places to get on the field also did fine (one was the leading freshman scorer).
Of the 2017 class they are current freshmen. All of them were recognized by Inside Lacrosse and all of them were selected to the Under Armour Senior Game.
Of the 2018 class they are current seniors in HS. All of the players were ranked Top 40 by Inside Lacrosse and all of the players were selected to represent Long Island at the Under Armour Games.

It appears to me that all of the young women listed are doing just fine. It does not appear that any have fallen off as you suggest. We all know there are a few others in each class that are also considered top players. When all is said and done, we will see a large number of these players on the All American List.

Just bugs me when I see the jealousy and bitterness come out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A while back there was a post that identified some of the top players from the Island by class in recent years. Some people took offense to the list. One post in particular annoyed me so I would like to respond. below is the quote.

- "Those lists are pretty good, could add or drop a couple, and move a few in order, but still pretty good. Since I am familiar with all the years, I do find it interesting that a few of these years had some of the early recruits that were supposed to be top of the age groups when they committed, and now you really don't hear about them much, not just this silly list, but overall in lacrosse."

I just saw IL's Preseason All American List and recognized many of the names were the same names as the players on the list that you were referring to.

Of the 2015 class four of the six players listed are currently on the All American list. The other two are doing very well.
Of the 2016 class three of the seven are currently listed on the All American list. Two of the others started just about every game last year and did very well. The other two who happen to play at the two toughest places to get on the field also did fine (one was the leading freshman scorer).
Of the 2017 class they are current freshmen. All of them were recognized by Inside Lacrosse and all of them were selected to the Under Armour Senior Game.
Of the 2018 class they are current seniors in HS. All of the players were ranked Top 40 by Inside Lacrosse and all of the players were selected to represent Long Island at the Under Armour Games.

It appears to me that all of the young women listed are doing just fine. It does not appear that any have fallen off as you suggest. We all know there are a few others in each class that are also considered top players. When all is said and done, we will see a large number of these players on the All American List.

Just bugs me when I see the jealousy and bitterness come out.

Describe fine for the other two 2016s? we're they top 20 recruits? Will they be producing this year?

So hundreds of LI kids play and we are talking about the top few? Talk about the bottom 95% that is more realistic. Way more LI kids playing at the Quinnipiacs of the world than UNC and Maryland

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So hundreds of LI kids play and we are talking about the top few? Talk about the bottom 95% that is more realistic. Way more LI kids playing at the Quinnipiacs of the world than UNC and Maryland

The bitter pricks are not jealous of those players.

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A while back there was a post that identified some of the top players from the Island by class in recent years. Some people took offense to the list. One post in particular annoyed me so I would like to respond. below is the quote.

- "Those lists are pretty good, could add or drop a couple, and move a few in order, but still pretty good. Since I am familiar with all the years, I do find it interesting that a few of these years had some of the early recruits that were supposed to be top of the age groups when they committed, and now you really don't hear about them much, not just this silly list, but overall in lacrosse."

I just saw IL's Preseason All American List and recognized many of the names were the same names as the players on the list that you were referring to.

Of the 2015 class four of the six players listed are currently on the All American list. The other two are doing very well.
Of the 2016 class three of the seven are currently listed on the All American list. Two of the others started just about every game last year and did very well. The other two who happen to play at the two toughest places to get on the field also did fine (one was the leading freshman scorer).
Of the 2017 class they are current freshmen. All of them were recognized by Inside Lacrosse and all of them were selected to the Under Armour Senior Game.
Of the 2018 class they are current seniors in HS. All of the players were ranked Top 40 by Inside Lacrosse and all of the players were selected to represent Long Island at the Under Armour Games.

It appears to me that all of the young women listed are doing just fine. It does not appear that any have fallen off as you suggest. We all know there are a few others in each class that are also considered top players. When all is said and done, we will see a large number of these players on the All American List.

Just bugs me when I see the jealousy and bitterness come out.

Describe fine for the other two 2016s? we're they top 20 recruits? Will they be producing this year?

Haters gonna hate. The original post had nothing to do with Top 20 recruits. It was to show that many top recruits were not hindered because the didn't fit a particular "profile". Nutcases like you couldn't grasp the gist and turned the whole thing into an argument.

Just come out with it, are you upset because your daughter was not recognized or do you just dislike one of the players (or there parents).

On second thought go away and take your negative bitter BS with you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others, without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

And the numbers make proportional sense. The better clubs have more and better players and are represently accordingly. How many player do you think you should be seeing from beach bums or wherever you have a problem with as under represented?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others, without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

Oh please. Why is it that just about every year the players who make the team are the same players that had offers from and or are going to the best college programs? Why is it that the majority of the girls who make the team go on to excel at the top programs. Whey is it that many go on to become DI All Americans and are considered for the tewarraton award. Any given year there are approximately 6 - 10 players from Long Island that are considered to be top tier, elite, studs or whatever you want to call them. Most of the time they make the team.

Using your theory of "the lacrosse club" we would have to have 100 players make the team. I know a lot of daddy's who played and their daughters don't make the team. Only the top kids from the top club make it, not all the players from the club. Elite siblings? Are you kidding, I know plenty of families where one child makes it and the others don't.

I'm guessing that you blamed your daughters coach or club director when Maryland didn't offer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people crack me up. College coaches look for the best athletes/ best lacrosse players. If the kid is a ball hog they don't care as they think they will be able to rein them in .They could not care less if your kid" makes a great clear through". Even funnier is when they tell you "we recruit families not just players" because they know you bunch of self absorbed fools believe you are the parents that the coaches really like . In reality if your kid can help them win you could be a horror show of a parent and they will still take your kid.

Wow, you are not smart. You say coaches look for best athletes/best lacrosse players (wow AMAZING insight). You're probably running around your mother's basement in your underwear screaming "I burned them with that one!" Put your clothes back on and take a seat. Now try, as best you can, to define best lacrosse player. Maybe with that little brain teaser, you'll start to learn something. And FFS stop screaming "Ma! Ma! Bring me more gummy bears!"

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

All things being equal they care about everything, but stud is recruited over good player regardless of family and any other baggage everytime

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

I am

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others, without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

2nd team all American as a freshman from Long Island was not a UA all American or even a high school all American.

There is definitely politics in play with all these teams and awards but the cream usually rises to the top at some point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

I am

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others, without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

2nd team all American as a freshman from Long Island was not a UA all American or even a high school all American.

There is definitely politics in play with all these teams and awards but the cream usually rises to the top at some point.

I put more stock on the UA All American than the HS. Not all of the regional UA teams are impressive for underclassmen, but areas like NE, Balt, DC and LI are. And very hard to make. Then the senior team of north and south is The Who's who. Too many kooks in HS to get it right, but those college awards are legit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

I am

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others, without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

2nd team all American as a freshman from Long Island was not a UA all American or even a high school all American.

There is definitely politics in play with all these teams and awards but the cream usually rises to the top at some point.

I put more stock on the UA All American than the HS. Not all of the regional UA teams are impressive for underclassmen, but areas like NE, Balt, DC and LI are. And very hard to make. Then the senior team of north and south is The Who's who. Too many kooks in HS to get it right, but those college awards are legit.

Congratulations to her , great player and well deserved recognition. I'm sure some of the lunatics carry on about DI All America selection is political as well when their daughter is not recognized. The bottom line is the players who get recognized are very very good players. Are some really good players overlooked? Yes but no where near the number that the conspiracy theorists would have you believe. Maybe 10 or so studs off the Island on any given year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

I am

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others,
without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

2nd team all American as a freshman from Long Island was not a UA all American or even a high school all American.

There is definitely politics in play with all these teams and awards but the cream usually rises to the top at some point.

Or if what you say is true maybe her 2nd team all American award was political and she did not actually deserve any recognition.
More likely she excelled in college, worked really hard , developed under her new coaches and deserved the recognition. You can’t have it both ways and claim politics when she dies not get it but say no politics when she does it just makes you look jeolous. A lot of things go into those awards if she were on another college team she may not have seen the field but if she were on a different high school team she may have been a multi time AA. Just compliment the kids and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

I am

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others,
without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

2nd team all American as a freshman from Long Island was not a UA all American or even a high school all American.

There is definitely politics in play with all these teams and awards but the cream usually rises to the top at some point.

Or if what you say is true maybe her 2nd team all American award was political and she did not actually deserve any recognition.
More likely she excelled in college, worked really hard , developed under her new coaches and deserved the recognition. You can’t have it both ways and claim politics when she dies not get it but say no politics when she does it just makes you look jeolous. A lot of things go into those awards if she were on another college team she may not have seen the field but if she were on a different high school team she may have been a multi time AA. Just compliment the kids and move on.

Excellent post and right on the money. I have heard on the sidelines as well. When the daughter was not recognized it was due to politics. When the daughter was recognized the same guy believed they got it right. Way more times than not they get it right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People still don't realize who has UA in their back pocket. Check the list of all Americans All play for one club

No, they do not. Just can't get passed the it's all political nonsense can you?

I am

These girls are very deserving some clearly than others. And others, without connections, who are just as good are left off each year. Though if you don't think there's some nonsense going on with politics as far as travel team, daddy's who played, elite siblings, you're only kidding yourself. There's a lacrosse "club" out there, and if you're in it, you'll be rewarded. If you're not, it's going to be a lot tougher.

2nd team all American as a freshman from Long Island was not a UA all American or even a high school all American.

There is definitely politics in play with all these teams and awards but the cream usually rises to the top at some point.

Second Team All American. What an awesome accomplishment. For those who do not know what that means: The player is considered to be one of the 32 best players in the country and one of the top 7 at her respective position. I am guessing that there are approximately 2800 - 3000 women playing Division I lacrosse. Congratulations to her and all of the other players who were recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Ward Melville?

Good question. Why are they never one of the top programs? The boys team is in the mix every year. All of the other "Lacrosse Towns" have very strong boys and girls programs. Garden City, West Islip, Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor even SWR has had success with both programs. I am very surprised they are not more like Garden City. GC Boys and Girls two of the best on Long Island every year. Ward Melville boys could be considered the best program on Long Island. Does not make sense to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Ward Melville?

Good question. Why are they never one of the top programs? The boys team is in the mix every year. All of the other "Lacrosse Towns" have very strong boys and girls programs. Garden City, West Islip, Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor even SWR has had success with both programs. I am very surprised they are not more like Garden City. GC Boys and Girls two of the best on Long Island every year. Ward Melville boys could be considered the best program on Long Island. Does not make sense to me.

I have zero direct knowledge of the SWR girls program other than they have had some very good players of recent years. To answer this question, I think two things are at play.

1. Is boy's lax and the parents are a different dynamic than girls lax and lax parents. Both have their positives and negatives. But having a successful girls program seems to be more difficult because the parents of girls lacrosse tend to have more emotion and vested concern (a little more helicopter parenting) why I am not totally sure, maybe it is a social-stigma that the girls need a voice or must be protected from all perceived threats not to mention the emotional side of girl sports and how the stigmas associated with status on the team (or perceived) the girls are more emotionally vested in. Where as the boys tend to connect that part of it and to a lesser extent feel/connect those emotions. The parents tend to be more involved and have more conflicts with coaches about lacrosse because of this than the boys.

2. The winning programs have consistency, a culture across the board and strong coaches who are able to wade this potential minefield consistently. Consistency is the key term, waiver once and makes exceptions to your rules and policies, then there is no coming back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Ward Melville?

Good question. Why are they never one of the top programs? The boys team is in the mix every year. All of the other "Lacrosse Towns" have very strong boys and girls programs. Garden City, West Islip, Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor even SWR has had success with both programs. I am very surprised they are not more like Garden City. GC Boys and Girls two of the best on Long Island every year. Ward Melville boys could be considered the best program
on Long Island. Does not make sense to me.

I have zero direct knowledge of the SWR girls program other than they have had some very good players of recent years. To answer this question, I think two things are at play.

1. Is boy's lax and the parents are a different dynamic than girls lax and lax parents. Both have their positives and negatives. But having a successful girls program seems to be more difficult because the parents of girls lacrosse tend to have more emotion and vested concern (a little more helicopter parenting) why I am not totally sure, maybe it is a social-stigma that the girls need a voice or must be protected from all perceived threats not to mention the emotional side of girl sports and how the stigmas associated with status on the team (or perceived) the girls are more emotionally vested in. Where as the boys tend to connect that part of it and to a lesser extent feel/connect those emotions. The parents tend to be more involved and have more conflicts with coaches about lacrosse because of this than the boys.

2. The winning programs have consistency, a culture across the board and strong coaches who are able to wade this potential minefield consistently. Consistency is the key term, waiver once and makes exceptions to your rules and policies, then there is no coming back.

Gibberish

22 days until season starts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

22 days until season starts.

And I thought that I was board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Originally Posted by Anonymous

22 days until season starts.

And I thought that I was board.

if you're *bored* you could
Brush up
On your spelling

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Tell me the program that will pass on a top player because one or both of the parents are a bit of a nightmare. They all say the same nonsense "we recruit families ", "we are a family" blah blah. If they think they have a cant miss layer they don't care.Heck they barely even care what type of kid they are getting as long as they can play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Tell me the program that will pass on a top player because one or both of the parents are a bit of a nightmare. They all say the same nonsense "we recruit families ", "we are a family" blah blah. If they think they have a cant miss layer they don't care.Heck they barely even care what type of kid they are getting as long as they can play.

Happens all the time. Maybe not with the number one player in the country, but go down the list a little, you know, the very good players, say #s 25-100 in the class. Comes into play big time. Have you cost your kid offers??

Is this the year that McDonough loses?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Tell me the program that will pass on a top player because one or both of the parents are a bit of a nightmare. They all say the same nonsense "we recruit families ", "we are a family" blah blah. If they think they have a cant miss layer they don't care.Heck they barely even care what type of kid they are getting as long as they can play.

How do you know this? Personal experience? Are you a nightmare?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Tell me the program that will pass on a top player because one or both of the parents are a bit of a nightmare. They all say the same nonsense "we recruit families ", "we are a family" blah blah. If they think they have a cant miss layer they don't care.Heck they barely even care what type of kid they are getting as long as they can play.

Happens all the time. Maybe not with the number one player in the country, but go down the list a little, you know, the very good players, say #s 25-100 in the class. Comes into play big time. Have you cost your kid offers??

No my kid was top ten but it obviously cost your little one the spot in her dream school. So you think the college coaches don’t care if your kid is a top player but raise their standards for the less talented kid. That just tells me you are really ignorant as your admitting they have less ethics when it actually matters but are arguing they are ethical. All this and you cannot mention one program that it matters at. You are obviously one of those parents who believe coaches really like you , what a loser. Still waiting on that program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Tell me the program that will pass on a top player because one or both of the parents are a bit of a nightmare. They all say the same nonsense "we recruit families ", "we are a family" blah blah. If they think they have a cant miss layer they don't care.Heck they barely even care what type of kid they are getting as long as they can play.

Happens all the time. Maybe not with the number one player in the country, but go down the list a little, you know, the very good players, say #s 25-100 in the class. Comes into play big time. Have you cost your kid offers??

Give it a rest.

Considering the fact that there are only about 12 girls per class from Long Island who are considered Top 100 recruits I would say you are talking out of your a@$. There are probably less than 10 girls from LI any given year who are considered Top Tier (too 40-50) and I am sure they all get plenty of offers from the top programs in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to put some perspective on what coaches and evaluators of recruits put a premium on, we can look at the example of last years top freshman recruit in the nation. Certainly was not scoring an overinflated amount of meaningless goals in crappy games to pad the stats. In fact she was like the third or forth scorer on her HS team. Why was she valued so high? Go watch the kid play, the eye test. Flying around with a non stop motor, making plays all over the field. You can be the "game changer" without ever scoring a goal. Here is what the stat line does not tell you. One kid can score 100 goals feasting on a weak defender or two that most of the opposing teams seem to have, yet may have 0 goals against a good defense or when her team needs a goal. Another kid may have 20 goals, but all quality goals that came in the time of need for her team. Some kids get it, and are actually embarrassed to put in 5 goals in a 20-2 beat down. Others don't get it and are happy to pile on in those beat downs, and unfortunately you get the parents buying into the numbers.

Too bad many parents do not understand. One of the biggest problems with HS Lacrosse is that parents who do not know the game continually advise and coach their daughters. Some even do it during the game from the sideline. One particular parent on my daughters team will even boast that he tell his daughter what to do before the game. This man knows very little and he does not realize he is actually hurting the team. And by the way, his daughter does not fit the description above.

The freshman you talked about is also not an elite offensive player like some other top recruits. Some are much more gifted offensively. She certainly tried to score a lot against our team. She is a complete player and great between the 30's which is clearly highly valued. Some players are simply more gifted scorers like the girl a year older who is at BC. She put up monster offensive stats in high school without being a ball hog. She was also a complete player. Same is true of the freshman at UNC this year. Also an elite offensive player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Tell me the program that will pass on a top player because one or both of the parents are a bit of a nightmare. They all say the same nonsense "we recruit families ", "we are a family" blah blah. If they think they have a cant miss layer they don't care.Heck they barely even care what type of kid they are getting as long as they can play.

Happens all the time. Maybe not with the number one player in the country, but go down the list a little, you know, the very good players, say #s 25-100 in the class. Comes into play big time. Have you cost your kid offers??

Give it a rest.

Considering the fact that there are only about 12 girls per class from Long Island who are considered Top 100 recruits I would say you are talking out of your a@$. There are probably less than 10 girls from LI any given year who are considered Top Tier (too 40-50) and I am sure they all get plenty of offers from the top programs in the country.

who said on LI ... DB parents (you) cost their kids offers all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong about the family comment. They do care about the parents . Apple never falls far from the tree and they'd rather not deal with that for 4 years and FYI the really good players usually come from a grounded family. The kids and parents who think they are great are the horror shows!

This is 100% correct

Tell me the program that will pass on a top player because one or both of the parents are a bit of a nightmare. They all say the same nonsense "we recruit families ", "we are a family" blah blah. If they think they have a cant miss layer they don't care.Heck they barely even care what type of kid they are getting as long as they can play.

Happens all the time. Maybe not with the number one player in the country, but go down the list a little, you know, the very good players, say #s 25-100 in the class. Comes into play big time. Have you cost your kid offers??

Give it a rest.

Considering the fact that there are only about 12 girls per class from Long Island who are considered Top 100 recruits I would say you are talking out of your a@$. There are probably less than 10 girls from LI any given year who are considered Top Tier (too 40-50) and I am sure they all get plenty of offers from the top programs in the country.

who said on LI ... DB parents (you) cost their kids offers all the time.

I don't think too many girls in the top 50 get passed on and it is doubtful the kids from 50 to 100 get passed on either by many schools.

Just look at the IL lists or the 44 players who make the UA North South Team. Almost all of those girls go to the top schools in the country. Maybe average players with crazy parents but the parents would really have to be over the top if the player considered a top recruit.

Doesn't look like many of these kids were passed on.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO4uzngKbZAhVL61MKHfbDBfgQFggmMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insidelacrosse.com%2Farticle%2F2017-ilwomen-young-gun-senior-rankings%2F50466&usg=AOvVaw1sCDnNh86MS4zTqK5A9xs0

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj4m9XNgabZAhWP6lMKHRwSCOoQFggmMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insidelacrosse.com%2Farticle%2Funder-armour-announces-rosters-for-girls-all-america-lacrosse-game%2F49614&usg=AOvVaw1BjhB0DnH_u3vsIgNwincT

"who said on LI ... DB parents (you) cost their kids offers all the time."

You have no clue, you have kids who have been arrested, been thrown out of school, post hideous stuff online etc and they are still going to some of the hardest to get into and most prestigious schools in the country. Coaches don't care if they have a crazy parent as they will have little to no interaction with them anyway. I can tell you multiple schools that have parents with kids on the team that have felony records yet you clueless parents think " not the coaches where my little Susie is going". Wake up, if your kid is good enough to help them win they don't care that you are clueless. Just go to a summer tournament and watch the parents and it becomes obvious these programs don't care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"who said on LI ... DB parents (you) cost their kids offers all the time."

You have no clue, you have kids who have been arrested, been thrown out of school, post hideous stuff online etc and they are still going to some of the hardest to get into and most prestigious schools in the country. Coaches don't care if they have a crazy parent as they will have little to no interaction with them anyway. I can tell you multiple schools that have parents with kids on the team that have felony records yet you clueless parents think " not the coaches where my little Susie is going". Wake up, if your kid is good enough to help them win they don't care that you are clueless. Just go to a summer tournament and watch the parents and it becomes obvious these programs don't care.

Your "little Susie" comments are played out. You've been using that for too long.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"who said on LI ... DB parents (you) cost their kids offers all the time."

You have no clue, you have kids who have been arrested, been thrown out of school, post hideous stuff online etc and they are still going to some of the hardest to get into and most prestigious schools in the country. Coaches don't care if they have a crazy parent as they will have little to no interaction with them anyway. I can tell you multiple schools that have parents with kids on the team that have felony records yet you clueless parents think " not the coaches where my little Susie is going". Wake up, if your kid is good enough to help them win they don't care that you are clueless. Just go to a summer tournament and watch the parents and it becomes obvious these programs don't care.

Your "little Susie" comments are played out. You've been using that for too long.

Your played out comments are played out, you've been using that without adding anything of substance for too long. Now go tell your little sally to hit the wall she needs the work.

Top programs take anyone that can write their name as long as they help the team. Coaches walk kids in all the time. Watch the player interviews after televised national title games in football and basketball etc. its embarrassing and there are usually really good academic schools playing.

For a dead end sport like lacrosse, tell your kids to hit the library more than the wall

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top programs take anyone that can write their name as long as they help the team. Coaches walk kids in all the time. Watch the player interviews after televised national title games in football and basketball etc. its embarrassing and there are usually really good academic schools playing.

For a dead end sport like lacrosse, tell your kids to hit the library more than the wall

What a Jack A$@ you are. You call it a dead end sport yet you are on this site. Just about every person that I know has understood that the end game is to use lacrosse to help your child get into a school that they otherwise would not get into and possably get some financial help. Along the way our kids get all of the benefits that go along with competing and playing a team sport.

Our children also learn how to deal with negative, bitter haters like you. Troll

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top programs take anyone that can write their name as long as they help the team. Coaches walk kids in all the time. Watch the player interviews after televised national title games in football and basketball etc. its embarrassing and there are usually really good academic schools playing.

For a dead end sport like lacrosse, tell your kids to hit the library more than the wall

Jealous much??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top programs take anyone that can write their name as long as they help the team. Coaches walk kids in all the time. Watch the player interviews after televised national title games in football and basketball etc. its embarrassing and there are usually really good academic schools playing.

For a dead end sport like lacrosse, tell your kids to hit the library more than the wall

Sorry things didn't work out for you and your daughter. Maybe if she had better genes her experience would have been more positive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top programs take anyone that can write their name as long as they help the team. Coaches walk kids in all the time. Watch the player interviews after televised national title games in football and basketball etc. its embarrassing and there are usually really good academic schools playing.

For a dead end sport like lacrosse, tell your kids to hit the library more than the wall

What a Jack A$@ you are. You call it a dead end sport yet you are on this site. Just about every person that I know has understood that the end game is to use lacrosse to help your child get into a school that they otherwise would not get into and possably get some financial help. Along the way our kids get all of the benefits that go along with competing and playing a team sport.

Our children also learn how to deal with negative, bitter haters like you. Troll

Great response .What that hater does not get is almost all sports are essentially a dead end in that very few if any will make a meaningful living doing it .The things that you can get out of playing a sport like lacrosse are essentially priceless but people like that poster will make it so they and their kid get nothing but misery from it , feel bad for their kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top programs take anyone that can write their name as long as they help the team. Coaches walk kids in all the time. Watch the player interviews after televised national title games in football and basketball etc. its embarrassing and there are usually really good academic schools playing.

For a dead end sport like lacrosse, tell your kids to hit the library more than the wall

What a Jack A$@ you are. You call it a dead end sport yet you are on this site. Just about every person that I know has understood that the end game is to use lacrosse to help your child get into a school that they otherwise would not get into and possably get some financial help. Along the way our kids get all of the benefits that go along with competing and playing a team sport.

Our children also learn how to deal with negative, bitter haters like you. Troll

Great response .What that hater does not get is almost all sports are essentially a dead end in that very few if any will make a meaningful living doing it .The things that you can get out of playing a sport like lacrosse are essentially priceless but people like that poster will make it so they and their kid get nothing but misery from it , feel bad for their kid.

For any parent of a young player who may not be very familiar with women's lacrosse and the opportunities available.

To put it in perspective here are the Universities that could be considered "Top Programs".

Maryland
North Carolina
Florida
Northwestern
Syracuse
Penn State
Boston College
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Notre Dame
Virginia
Stony Brook
Navy
USC

Pretty good list of schools that are able to walk the top players in.

The best players in the country get to choose whatever school they would like to go to. Depending on their situation they can choose the right fit from the list above. If they do not like any of those schools all of the other programs will welcome a top player with open arms.

No need to fear if your daughter is not being recruited by any of the schools listed above. There is no shortage of great schools that will be recruiting her.

So if your daughter is a decent player but Maryland and North Carolina are not showing interest here are some schools that might have a spot for her.

Albany,American, Arizona State, Army, Binghamton, Boston University, Brown, Bryant, Bucknell, Cal Berkley, Colgate, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Delaware, Davidson, Elon, Fairfield, Furman, Georgetown, Harvard, Hofstra, High Point, Jacksonville, Johns Hopkins, James Madison, Lafayette, Lehigh, Loyola, Manhattan, Marist, Marquette, New Hampshire....

Well, you get the picture.

Find for me another sport with more opportunity for young female athletes. If your daughter is a decent athlete and puts some time into the sport of lacrosse the opportunities far exceed that of any other sport.

Those are just some of the DI Schools, there are also awesome opportunities at the DII and DIII level. To say that women's lacrosse is a dead end sport is simply foolish. BTW, the majority of lacrosse parents that I know do have their kids hit the library more than the wall.

Your post was one of the more foolish posts that I have seen on this site.

Great post. These kids get so much more out of lacrosse than you realize at first glance. At the college level, they learn responsibility, accountability,work ethic, time management, etc - all the things you want in an employee you'd hire. I'd take a 4 year college athlete over another candidate with similar qualifications every time. Isn't that what we want college to prepare them for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great post. These kids get so much more out of lacrosse than you realize at first glance. At the college level, they learn responsibility, accountability,work ethic, time management, etc - all the things you want in an employee you'd hire. I'd take a 4 year college athlete over another candidate with similar qualifications every time. Isn't that what we want college to prepare them for?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great post. These kids get so much more out of lacrosse than you realize at first glance. At the college level, they learn responsibility, accountability,work ethic, time management, etc - all the things you want in an employee you'd hire. I'd take a 4 year college athlete over another candidate with similar qualifications every time. Isn't that what we want college to prepare them for?

I run an in-demand graduate level educational program (over 1000 applications for a very limited number of seats) and I will take a college athlete in a second (assuming they have the academic credentials) over a non-athlete. They understand commitment, teamwork, communication, time management, leadership, and how to lose gracefully. This seems to be true regardless of the sport. Those are key attributes in any workplace and if they come in with them already, we are that much ahead of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great post. These kids get so much more out of lacrosse than you realize at first glance. At the college level, they learn responsibility, accountability,work ethic, time management, etc - all the things you want in an employee you'd hire. I'd take a 4 year college athlete over another candidate with similar qualifications every time. Isn't that what we want college to prepare them for?

I run an in-demand graduate level educational program (over 1000 applications for a very limited number of seats) and I will take a college athlete in a second (assuming they have the academic credentials) over a non-athlete. They understand commitment, teamwork, communication, time management, leadership, and how to lose gracefully. This seems to be true regardless of the sport. Those are key attributes in any workplace and if they come in with them already, we are that much ahead of the game.

💡

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top programs take anyone that can write their name as long as they help the team. Coaches walk kids in all the time. Watch the player interviews after televised national title games in football and basketball etc. its embarrassing and there are usually really good academic schools playing.

For a dead end sport like lacrosse, tell your kids to hit the library more than the wall

What a Jack A$@ you are. You call it a dead end sport yet you are on this site. Just about every person that I know has understood that the end game is to use lacrosse to help your child get into a school that they otherwise would not get into and possably get some financial help. Along the way our kids get all of the benefits that go along with competing and playing a team sport.

Our children also learn how to deal with negative, bitter haters like you. Troll

Great response .What that hater does not get is almost all sports are essentially a dead end in that very few if any will make a meaningful living doing it .The things that you can get out of playing a sport like lacrosse are essentially priceless but people like that poster will make it so they and their kid get nothing but misery from it , feel bad for their kid.

For any parent of a young player who may not be very familiar with women's lacrosse and the opportunities available.

To put it in perspective here are the Universities that could be considered "Top Programs".

Maryland
North Carolina
Florida
Northwestern
Syracuse
Penn State
Boston College
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Notre Dame
Virginia
Stony Brook
Navy
USC

Pretty good list of schools that are able to walk the top players in.

The best players in the country get to choose whatever school they would like to go to. Depending on their situation they can choose the right fit from the list above. If they do not like any of those schools all of the other programs will welcome a top player with open arms.

No need to fear if your daughter is not being recruited by any of the schools listed above. There is no shortage of great schools that will be recruiting her.

So if your daughter is a decent player but Maryland and North Carolina are not showing interest here are some schools that might have a spot for her.

Albany,American, Arizona State, Army, Binghamton, Boston University, Brown, Bryant, Bucknell, Cal Berkley, Colgate, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Delaware, Davidson, Elon, Fairfield, Furman, Georgetown, Harvard, Hofstra, High Point, Jacksonville, Johns Hopkins, James Madison, Lafayette, Lehigh, Loyola, Manhattan, Marist, Marquette, New Hampshire....

Well, you get the picture.

Find for me another sport with more opportunity for young female athletes. If your daughter is a decent athlete and puts some time into the sport of lacrosse the opportunities far exceed that of any other sport.

Those are just some of the DI Schools, there are also awesome opportunities at the DII and DIII level. To say that women's lacrosse is a dead end sport is simply foolish. BTW, the majority of lacrosse parents that I know do have their kids hit the library more than the wall.

Your post was one of the more foolish posts that I have seen on this site.

Like with anything in life you get out of it what you put into it. I personally know several grads of the first five schools on that list that would have trouble passing 12th grade regents exams after getting college degrees, but at least they had a shot at an excellent education, without sports they would have never sniffed those schools (maybe Syracuse)

We know Garden City, Manhasset and CHS will be strong. We also know that MS, ESM and BBP will be tough.
Who will it be in the A division in Nassau and Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We know Garden City, Manhasset and CHS will be strong. We also know that MS, ESM and BBP will be tough.
Who will it be in the A division in Nassau and Suffolk?

Massapequa in Nassau. West Islip or Northport in Suffolk.

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We know Garden City, Manhasset and CHS will be strong. We also know that MS, ESM and BBP will be tough.
Who will it be in the A division in Nassau and Suffolk?

CSH?

Riverhead

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead

is a town out east

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

Northport or West Islip in Suffolk. Smithtown East and Smithtown West will round out the Final Four.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead

is a town out east

riverhead is not winning anything.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

You sound very bitter. Since you know so much and have been following the program all these years why don't you answer my question? Why is it that The Ward Melville Girls Program not been able to trac with The Ward Melville Boys Program? I find it strange that one program is one of the best on the Island maybe the country and has been for decades and the other is mediocre. Do you not find that odd?

Port Washington in A Nassau not Pequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

You sound very bitter. Since you know so much and have been following the program all these years why don't you answer my question? Why is it that The Ward Melville Girls Program not been able to trac with The Ward Melville Boys Program? I find it strange that one program is one of the best on the Island maybe the country and has been for decades and the other is mediocre. Do you not find that odd?

WM boys are not what it used to be. You're living in the past. The question was already answered, WM parents are the worst in any sport. The majority of them aren't worth peeing on if they were on fire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in
person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

You sound very bitter. Since you know so much and have been following the program all these years why don't you answer my question? Why is it that The Ward Melville Girls Program not been able to trac with The Ward Melville Boys Program? I find it strange that one program is one of the best on the Island maybe the country and has been for decades and the other is mediocre. Do you not find that odd?

WM boys are not what it used to be. You're living in the past. The question was already answered, WM parents are the worst in any sport. The majority of them aren't worth peeing on if they were on fire.

If you are going to stir a pot at least have a clue. Now go back to the basement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

You sound very bitter. Since you know so much and have been following the program all these years why don't you answer my question? Why is it that The Ward Melville Girls Program not been able to trac with The Ward Melville Boys Program? I find it strange that one program is one of the best on the Island maybe the country and has been for decades and the other is mediocre. Do you not find that odd?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

You sound very bitter. Since you know so much and have been following the program all these years why don't you answer my question? Why is it that The Ward Melville Girls Program not been able to trac with The Ward Melville Boys Program? I find it strange that one program is one of the best on the Island maybe the country and has been for decades and the other is mediocre. Do you not find that odd?

Bitter? What are you talking about. Calling out this group of parents who constantly blame the coach because the team always comes up short. I don’t care about the program whatsoever, and certainly don’t follow WM, but can’t avoid seeing the disgusting behavior as they post it all over these threads literally dozens of times, year after year and I am certainly not the only one to call them out on this. I do read BOTC and this group is constantly on here killing the coach. Just pointing out the ridiculous behavior of these “adults”. Is the rational observation of a bunch of [ChillLaxin] parents to be considered bitter? No it is not. Don’t let me stop your fun, go back to bashing your coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

You sound very bitter. Since you know so much and have been following the program all these years why don't you answer my question? Why is it that The Ward Melville Girls Program not been able to trac with The Ward Melville Boys Program? I find it strange that one program is one of the best on the Island maybe the country and has been for decades and the other is mediocre. Do you not find that odd?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

You sound very bitter. Since you know so much and have been following the program all these years why don't you answer my question? Why is it that The Ward Melville Girls Program not been able to trac with The Ward Melville Boys Program? I find it strange that one program is one of the best on the Island maybe the country and has been for decades and the other is mediocre. Do you not find that odd?

Bitter? What are you talking about. Calling out this group of parents who constantly blame the coach because the team always comes up short. I don’t care about the program whatsoever, and certainly don’t follow WM, but can’t avoid seeing the disgusting behavior as they post it all over these threads literally dozens of times, year after year and I am certainly not the only one to call them out on this. I do read BOTC and this group is constantly on here killing the coach. Just pointing out the ridiculous behavior of these “adults”. Is the rational observation of a bunch of [ChillLaxin] parents to be considered bitter? No it is not. Don’t let me stop your fun, go back to bashing your coach.

Yes, you absolutely sound bitter. Coaches, players, parents, teams, AD's, clubs, universities etc... are all ripped apart on this site all the time. I do not recall seeing anything too outrageous directed at the ward Melville coach. You must have an attachment to the program and you are very sensitive because I don't recall seeing a "constant" stream of posts "killing" the coach". I am friendly with several parents who have daughters who recently graduated college and none of them have positive things to say. There is no way around it, many of the past and present parents are not going to be happy with their coach. Sorry, I just don't see any real attacks or "ridiculous behavior". Any shot at the coach on here has been minimal in relative terms.

Why attack the parents instead of simply answering my question? All of the other lacrosse towns that I can think of have successful boys and girls programs. Why not WM?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Your answer is "the parents" .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

You are wrong, WM gets ripped on here more than any other coach...You must not be keeping up...All you hear about is the 2018 class is the best ever, why cant they win it all? Def the coach...sound familiar now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

When you see a short jab or poke at a player or coach on this site it is most likely just someone trying to start trouble or as they say stirring the pot. When it is long , repeated and constant it is usually someone emotionally attached . Have not seen that so I am guessing trouble makers trying to get a rise out of some parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any
time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

You are wrong, WM gets ripped on here more than any other coach...You must not be keeping up...All you hear about is the 2018 class is the best ever, why cant they win it all? Def the coach...sound familiar now?

Nope, sorry just do not see it. Have never read anything on here that sounded like a parent of a particular WM class claiming they are the best class ever. I have seen people attack particular groups. keep trying to start trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

I have been reading this site for a long time and would say the WM coach has been "blamed" for her teams performance more so than any other high school coach so saying it has been rare is disingenuous at best. That said she is partly to blame as they are a talented team but do not play as a team and have several head down go to goal players .I would also say the parents have to take some of the blame also as they seem to be a group who tell their kids they know better than the coach and when their kids don't meet their expectations they lay the blame all on the coach but not on the selfish play that has been instilled in some of the girls.
Comparing the boys and girls programs at each school is just ridiculous , does a successful baseball program mean the softball program should be successful, or the same with basketball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last
years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

You are wrong, WM gets ripped on here more than any other coach...You must not be keeping up...All you hear about is the 2018 class is the best ever, why cant they win it all? Def the coach...sound familiar now?

No, it does not sound familiar . What does sound familiar is your attack.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

I have been reading this site for a long time and would say the WM coach has been "blamed" for her teams performance more so than any other high school coach so saying it has been rare is disingenuous at best. That said she is partly to blame as they are a talented team but do not play as a team and have several head down go to goal players .I would also say the parents have to take some of the blame also as they seem to be a group who tell their kids they know better than the coach and when their kids don't meet their expectations they lay the blame all on the coach but not on the selfish play that has been instilled in some of the girls.
Comparing the boys and girls programs at each school is just ridiculous , does a successful baseball program mean the softball program should be successful, or the same with basketball.

Spot on

Can someone list the Nassau divisions so we can start talking about pre season rankings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone list the Nassau divisions so we can start talking about pre season rankings?

What town are you from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program
never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

I have been reading this site for a long time and would say the WM coach has been "blamed" for her teams performance more so than any other high school coach so saying it has been rare is disingenuous at best. That said she is partly to blame as they are a talented team but do not play as a team and have several head down go to goal players .I would also say the parents have to take some of the blame also as they seem to be a group who tell their kids they know better than the coach and when their kids don't meet their expectations they lay the blame all on the coach but not on the selfish play that has been instilled in some of the girls.
Comparing the boys and girls programs at each school is just ridiculous , does a successful baseball program mean the softball program should be successful, or the same with basketball.

When a coach allows selfish players to hurt the team I think the blame absolutely falls on the coach.

Comparing the boys and girls programs is not ridiculous at all. Every other lacrosse town on the island has successful boys and girls programs. GC, WI, Manhasset , CHS, Etc... Same parents, same commitment , same culture, same expectations, same gene pool, same families, same youth programs.....

I think you answered the question.

Lets be honest no other HS sport except for maybe basketball which is tougher because of the defense has as much selfish me first play as girls lacrosse. Impossible to do it in volleyball baseball softball football etc.

In lacrosse the ball hogs never give it up and score tons of meaningless points many times at the expense of much inferior competition. Weak coaching along with ass kissing booster parents don't help. And every year most teams where everything runs through 1 player are eliminated early from the playoffs.

The teams that share the ball and have the most depth usually go the deepest in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets be honest no other HS sport except for maybe basketball which is tougher because of the defense has as much selfish me first play as girls lacrosse. Impossible to do it in volleyball baseball softball football etc.

In lacrosse the ball hogs never give it up and score tons of meaningless points many times at the expense of much inferior competition. Weak coaching along with ass kissing booster parents don't help. And every year most teams where everything runs through 1 player are eliminated early from the playoffs.

The teams that share the ball and have the most depth usually go the deepest in the playoffs.

Bingo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

I have been reading this site for a long time and would say the WM coach has been "blamed" for her teams performance more so than any other high school coach so saying it has been rare is disingenuous at best. That said she is partly to blame as they are a talented team but do not play as a team and have several head down go to goal players .I would also say the parents have to take some of the blame also as they seem to be a group who tell their kids they know better than the coach and when their kids don't meet their expectations they lay the blame all on the coach but not on the selfish play that has been instilled in some of the girls.
Comparing the boys and girls programs at each school is just ridiculous , does a successful baseball program mean the softball program should be successful, or the same with basketball.

I have also been reading this site for a long time and aside from some one line comments taking a shot at the coach (it goes with the territory BTW) I have not seen much. Nothing compared to what I have seen regarding other programs, clubs, coaches or even players. Never have I seen anyone go into detail or continually attack the coach. Some of the time I am 100% certain it is just someone trying to stir the pot.

You seem to have some knowledge of the program and if what you say is true about having talent but not playing as a team and being selfish then maybe the coach is to blame. It's pretty simple, if you do not play the way I (the coach) want you to play then have a seat you will not play at all.

I have also seen plenty of comments on here going after some of the players and parents. What I have not seen is any of the typical retaliation (tell your little Susie to hit the wall, if your daughter was better she would play and so on).

Sounds to me like expectations are high (which they should be at a school like WM) there has always been plenty of talented athletes and when they come up short every season some of the parents take a shot at the coach. Then, like clockwork someone comes on and attacks the parents (with a morally superior attitude mind you).

Considering the fact that it is the same story every year maybe the remarks about the coaching are not so far off the mark.

It is surprising that the program has not had more success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets be honest no other HS sport except for maybe basketball which is tougher because of the defense has as much selfish me first play as girls lacrosse. Impossible to do it in volleyball baseball softball football etc.

In lacrosse the ball hogs never give it up and score tons of meaningless points many times at the expense of much inferior competition. Weak coaching along with ass kissing booster parents don't help. And every year most teams where everything runs through 1 player are eliminated early from the playoffs.

The teams that share the ball and have the most depth usually go the deepest in the playoffs.

Bingo

And who is responsible ? You got it, the coach.

Nassau Power Conference has GC, Manhasset, CSH, Long Beach, Port Washington, Massapequa, Wantagh, Syosset, Oceanside and North Shore.

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

I do not know but I wish St Anthonys did the same. Suffolk could use another competitive team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well Wardmelville has plenty Div 1 prospects they are going to give every team a good run

We heard that the last couple of years

Have the athletes for sure...that is not questionable and not the problem at Ward Melville.

Yes, you WM parents tell us that every year. Maybe your high opinion of yourselves and low opinion of the team's you face has something to do with the "unexpected" outcome every year. Or just blame the coach, that works.

I think they're insinuating the coach is the problem lol

Not insinuating.

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an ass! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Let's blame it on the coaching.

More than likely you are a snake who should just slither back under your rock but instead you are either trying to stir the pot or you ar insinuating that it is all on the players. In any event, here is a high level view of the coaching track record. Not enough time to go into the details but this should paint a pretty clear picture for you.

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Agree, snake in the grass.

Record speaks for itself and does paint a very clear picture.

To the poster who found the need to go back in time...take a look at actual results.

Also notice that it was an antagonist who started the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa in Nassau and Northport or Ward Melville in Suffolk. I do not think any of them win the state title this year.

ward Melville would win if they got rid of the coach and let the kids coach.

Not sure that would work. How long has that coach been there? Have heard crazy stuff for years but witnessed last years meltdown vs NP in person. What I can not understand is why has The WM Girls Program never been able to track with The WM Boys Program?

Because WM girls have the worst group of parents ever. Probably this years graduating class. How many times over the last three years have you heard this group throwing the coach under the bus? It is embarrassing and an utter shame.

Actually there has been very little banter on here over the years regarding WM coach. However, when it does happen there is always s post with "throwing the coach under the bus" mentioned and an attack on some parents. I am guessing you are the same person and you obviously have a problem with a parent or several parents. I have seen coaches from many schools ripped apart on this site. it is rare that I have seen the WM Coach ripped. From time to time there will be a comment but nothing more than that. You on the other hand rear your ugly head almost any time there is a comment.

The poster asked a valid question which you did not answer. Instead you choose to attack a group of parents. The complaints have been around a lot longer than the group of parents that you obviously have a problem with.

I have been reading this site for a long time and would say the WM coach has been "blamed" for her teams performance more so than any other high school coach so saying it has been rare is disingenuous at best. That said she is partly to blame as they are a talented team but do not play as a team and have several head down go to goal players .I would also say the parents have to take some of the blame also as they seem to be a group who tell their kids they know better than the coach and when their kids don't meet their expectations they lay the blame all on the coach but not on the selfish play that has been instilled in some of the girls.
Comparing the boys and girls programs at each school is just ridiculous , does a successful baseball program mean the softball program should be successful, or the same with basketball.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Np hands wm a loss. Hahahahaha

Your an ass! WM should hold there heads high! They had a fantastic season!

Let's blame it on the coaching.

More than likely you are a snake who should just slither back under
your rock but instead you are either trying to stir the pot or you ar insinuating that it is all on the players. In any event, here is a high level view of the coaching track record. Not enough time to go into the details but this should paint a pretty clear picture for you.

..WM... Vs.. Opponent .........................Regular Season .......................Playoffs

2011 Vs William Floyd ......................... W 11 - 7 .................................. L 10 - 9

2012 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 10 - 8 .................................. L 11 - 5

2013 Vs Bayshore ............................... W 11 - 10 ................................ L 16 - 8

2014 Vs West Babylon ........................ W 17 - 4 ................................... L 17 - 10

2015 Vs Northport ................................ L 13 - 12 .................................. L 10 - 6

2016 Vs Northport ................................ L 8 - 6 ...................................... L 11 - 10

2017 Vs Northport ............................... W 13 - 6 .................................... L 8 - 7

Agree, snake in the grass.

Record speaks for itself and does paint a very clear picture.

To the poster who found the need to go back in time...take a look at actual results.

Also notice that it was an antagonist who started the BS.

You WM parents keep saying that rarely has anyone blamed the coach for losing on this site then keep blaming the coach .When you are shown that this has been going on consistently you just blame it on an antagonist ,it’s actually comical .Maybe she has done the best with what she has to work with .

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .
[/quote]

"Pathetic parents"? You took the time to go back several years and dredge up nonsense yet you are the one calling others "pathetic".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Because there is not enough private school competition close by. About the $.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .

"Pathetic parents"? You took the time to go back several years and dredge up nonsense yet you are the one calling others "pathetic". [/quote]

As opposed to the pathetic WM parent(you) that went back seven years to look up regular season game scores and compare them to seven years of postseason games against certain opponents. Finding negative comments from the WM parents about their coach takes no time at all as it’s a constant on this site at the start of every year,it really is pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .

"Pathetic parents"? You took the time to go back several years and dredge up nonsense yet you are the one calling others "pathetic".

As opposed to the pathetic WM parent(you) that went back seven years to look up regular season game scores and compare them to seven years of postseason games against certain opponents. Finding negative comments from the WM parents about their coach takes no time at all as it’s a constant on this site at the start of every year,it really is pathetic.
[/quote]

Where's the poster that said you were wrong, never saw this stuff? pretty quiet..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .

"Pathetic parents"? You took the time to go back several years and dredge up nonsense yet you are the one calling others "pathetic".

As opposed to the pathetic WM parent(you) that went back seven years to look up regular season game scores and compare them to seven years of postseason games against certain opponents. Finding negative comments from the WM parents about their coach takes no time at all as it’s a constant on this site at the start of every year,it really is pathetic.
[/quote]

Just like the post that you referenced showing the coaches record, it was started by a pot stirring A#$ H%$# not t by a WM parent. Considering the fact that I have never seen a single long rant going into any detail regarding the coach I am guessing that 50% of the negative posts are from A23 H@#$% trying to start trouble. The other 50% are from frustrated parents who have no other outlet.

The coaches history speaks for itself. If you want to believe that WM has not had the athletes thats fine too.

By the way, Why do you even care about WM?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .

"Pathetic parents"? You took the time to go back several years and dredge up nonsense yet you are the one calling others "pathetic".

As opposed to the pathetic WM parent(you) that went back seven years to look up regular season game scores and compare them to seven years of postseason games against certain opponents. Finding negative comments from the WM parents about their coach takes no time at all as it’s a constant on this site at the start of every year,it really is pathetic.

Just like the post that you referenced showing the coaches record, it was started by a pot stirring A#$ H%$# not t by a WM parent. Considering the fact that I have never seen a single long rant going into any detail regarding the coach I am guessing that 50% of the negative posts are from A23 H@#$% trying to start trouble. The other 50% are from frustrated parents who have no other outlet.

The coaches history speaks for itself. If you want to believe that WM has not had the athletes thats fine too.

By the way, Why do you even care about WM? [/quote]

ok genius.. what about the game where she called time out in the last 30 seconds of a tie game. oh wait, I already used my 2 timeouts. And I bet you can guess what happens next. If you weren't there, other team gets ball and scores with 10 seconds left. game over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .

"Pathetic parents"? You took the time to go back several years and dredge up nonsense yet you are the one calling others "pathetic".

As opposed to the pathetic WM parent(you) that went back seven years to look up regular season game scores and compare them to seven years of postseason games against certain opponents. Finding negative comments from the WM parents about their coach takes no time at all as it’s a constant on this site at the start of every year,it really is pathetic.

Just like the post that you referenced showing the coaches record, it was started by a pot stirring A#$ H%$# not t by a WM parent. Considering the fact that I have never seen a single long rant going into any detail regarding the coach I am guessing that 50% of the negative posts are from A23 H@#$% trying to start trouble. The other 50% are from frustrated parents who have no other outlet.

The coaches history speaks for itself. If you want to believe that WM has not had the athletes thats fine too.

By the way, Why do you even care about WM?

ok genius.. what about the game where she called time out in the last 30 seconds of a tie game. oh wait, I already used my 2 timeouts. And I bet you can guess what happens next. If you weren't there, other team gets ball and scores with 10 seconds left. game over. [/quote]

That's on the defense, they had 8 bigtime D1 players on the field at that time...got to make a play...stop with the excuses, protecting the players.

Do coach’s check with hs AD to gauge behavior of parents and does this hurt the recruits chances if it’s a big mouth Mom or Dad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is from page 10 of this 224 page thread from several years ago .Same nonsense with you pathetic parents , your kids lose so it has to be the coaches fault because it could not possibly be that your kids are just not as good as other schools players.Our boys team is good so it must be the girls coach that’s the problem , sad and funny all in one .

"Pathetic parents"? You took the time to go back several years and
dredge up nonsense yet you are the one calling others "pathetic".

As opposed to the pathetic WM parent(you) that went back seven years to look up regular season game scores and compare them to seven years of postseason games against certain opponents. Finding negative comments from the WM parents about their coach takes no time at all as it’s a constant on this site at the start of every year,it really is pathetic.

Just like the post that you referenced showing the coaches record, it was started by a pot stirring A#$ H%$# not t by a WM parent. Considering the fact that I have never seen a single long rant going into any detail regarding the coach I am guessing that 50% of the negative posts are from A23 H@#$% trying to start trouble. The other 50% are from frustrated parents who have no other outlet.

The coaches history speaks for itself. If you want to believe that WM has not had the athletes thats fine too.

By the way, Why do you even care about WM?

ok genius.. what about the game where she called time out in the last 30 seconds of a tie game. oh wait, I already used my 2 timeouts. And I bet you can guess what happens next. If you weren't there, other team gets ball and scores with 10 seconds left. game over.

That's on the defense, they had 8 bigtime D1 players on the field at that time...got to make a play...stop with the excuses, protecting the players.[/quote]

Once again A%# H#%^* stirring the pot and not WM parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do coach’s check with hs AD to gauge behavior of parents and does this hurt the recruits chances if it’s a big mouth Mom or Dad?

No.

No they love it when parents are outspoken complainers

Since we are going back in time let’s go further back. So the last County Championship that WM won was in 2007 and before that was 1993. They are not that much of a “powerhouse” that everyone thinks they are. 2 County Championships in 25 years! What are you all complaining about? They haven’t been good in a loooong time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since we are going back in time let’s go further back. So the last County Championship that WM won was in 2007 and before that was 1993. They are not that much of a “powerhouse” that everyone thinks they are. 2 County Championships in 25 years! What are you all complaining about? They haven’t been good in a loooong time!

Here we go again, another J#%+ A=+ starting trouble. But maybe that is the reason some parents are not happy. Don't recall anyone saying they were a powerhouse .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since we are going back in time let’s go further back. So the last County Championship that WM won was in 2007 and before that was 1993. They are not that much of a “powerhouse” that everyone thinks they are. 2 County Championships in 25 years! What are you all complaining about? They haven’t been good in a loooong time!

Going on record ... Betting 75% of the bashing is from pot stirring trolls.

All of the ward melville whiners really [ChillLaxin] me off because I don’t think you realize that you don’t have it that bad. My daughters club friends that play for ward melville actually like her. I have met her in the past as she coached in the club my oldest played for years ago. She was well respected and i thought she was a knowledgeable,personable coach and the girls connected well with her.

On the flip side, my daughter plays for a program that went from the top in the county to the lowest of the low in a few short years. Her coaches are immature and not positive at all, they demean the girls and are babies when they lose. We are now getting a new coach this year that has school hopped for the past few years and I have only heard negative things about this coach. Another lost season for us I am sure.

Having 4 girls (not all play lax) I have learned that it’s what the kids take away from it at the end of the day or the end of the season, sometimes it’s a championship and sometimes it’s not but to all you ward parents just be happy you are not with us. It’s awful and it’s my daughter and her teammates that suffer.

There are two comments never ending from WM parents on these threads. Every time someone wants to make a list of relevant HS teams and leaves WM off, there is an instant rebuttal to include them. And they are a good team and should be in conversations of teams in contention. The other is the coach thing that comes up constantly. It seems pretty simple, stop lynching the coach and this goes away. But it seems every time WM comes up as a contender, it goes right to the coach discussion. Quit blaming the coach and deal with it. There is seriously only a small handful of great coaches spread thin through the high schools, believe me you are better off than most.

On average how many middle school players get pulled up to Varsity? I'm hearing our school may pull up 3 or 4. Does that mean our team stinks? is it politics?
If we have that may "special kids" we should win states easily

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two comments never ending from WM parents on these threads. Every time someone wants to make a list of relevant HS teams and leaves WM off, there is an instant rebuttal to include them. And they are a good team and should be in conversations of teams in contention. The other is the coach thing that comes up constantly. It seems pretty simple, stop lynching the coach and this goes away. But it seems every time WM comes up as a contender, it goes right to the coach discussion. Quit blaming the coach and deal with it. There is seriously only a small handful of great coaches spread thin through the high schools, believe me you are better off than most.

Another post about WM that dose not appear to be written by a WM parent. I'm thinking the number might be higher than 75%.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On average how many middle school players get pulled up to Varsity? I'm hearing our school may pull up 3 or 4. Does that mean our team stinks? is it politics?
If we have that may "special kids" we should win states easily

If you have that many middle school players (7th/8th grade) moving up to varsity, your HS team stinks!
Maybe JV....but Varsity?...Stinks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Because there is not enough private school competition close by. About the $.

I get that there is not enough private school competition nearby (must be how St. Anthony's and Sacred Heart feel on Long Island!).

In my opinion, CBA should be able to scrimmage public schools, but not vie for the public school state championship (which they have won multiple times).

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges, particularly because private schools can recruit athletes and offer them scholarships.

What do you think?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Because there is not enough private school competition close by. About the $.

I get that there is not enough private school competition nearby (must be how St. Anthony's and Sacred Heart feel on Long Island!).

In my opinion, CBA should be able to scrimmage public schools, but not vie for the public school state championship (which they have won multiple times).

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges, particularly because private schools can recruit athletes and offer them scholarships.

What do you think?

St Ants and Sacred Heart have been getting beat by good public schools for the last few years...maybe they're not getting the good recruits the last few years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Because there is not enough private school competition close by. About the $.

I get that there is not enough private school competition nearby (must be how St. Anthony's and Sacred Heart feel on Long Island!).

In my opinion, CBA should be able to scrimmage public schools, but not vie for the public school state championship (which they have won multiple times).

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges, particularly because private schools can recruit athletes and offer them scholarships.

What do you think?

Agreed. In Nassau A I see Port avenging the OT loss to Pequa this year and who do we see them playing to get to states?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Because there is not enough private school competition close by. About the $.

I get that there is not enough private school competition nearby (must be how St. Anthony's and Sacred Heart feel on Long Island!).

In my opinion, CBA should be able to scrimmage public schools, but not vie for the public school state championship (which they have won multiple times).

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges, particularly because private schools can recruit athletes and offer them scholarships.

What do you think?

Agreed. In Nassau A I see Port avenging the OT loss to Pequa this year and who do we see them playing to get to states?

No chance, won't even make the finals this year.

Recruits, don’t be a stunad. We don’t send our kids there so we can try a beat someone in lacrosse. Plus both schools have beat plenty of public schools

You took the bait .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two comments never ending from WM parents on these threads. Every time someone wants to make a list of relevant HS teams and leaves WM off, there is an instant rebuttal to include them. And they are a good team and should be in conversations of teams in contention. The other is the coach thing that comes up constantly. It seems pretty simple, stop lynching the coach and this goes away. But it seems every time WM comes up as a contender, it goes right to the coach discussion. Quit blaming the coach and deal with it. There is seriously only a small handful of great coaches spread thin through the high schools, believe me you are better off than most.

Another post about WM that dose not appear to be written by a WM parent. I'm thinking the number might be higher than 75%.

It is not a post by a WM parent. It reads very clearly that it is not a WM parent. It is written at WM parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two comments never ending from WM parents on these threads. Every time someone wants to make a list of relevant HS teams and leaves WM off, there is an instant rebuttal to include them. And they are a good team and should be in conversations of teams in contention. The other is the coach thing that comes up constantly. It seems pretty simple, stop lynching the coach and this goes away. But it seems every time WM comes up as a contender, it goes right to the coach discussion. Quit blaming the coach and deal with it. There is seriously only a small handful of great coaches spread thin through the high schools, believe me you are better off than most.

Another post about WM that dose not appear to be written by a WM parent. I'm thinking the number might be higher than 75%.

It is not a post by a WM parent. It reads very clearly that it is not a WM parent. It is written at WM parents.

Obviously not a WM parent as they were not blaming the poor play of their team on the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recruits, don’t be a stunad. We don’t send our kids there so we can try a beat someone in lacrosse. Plus both schools have beat plenty of public schools

Your right we don't send our kids to privates to win lacrosse games, but the poster is right, very poor record against top publics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recruits, don’t be a stunad. We don’t send our kids there so we can try a beat someone in lacrosse. Plus both schools have beat plenty of public schools

St Ants, stop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two comments never ending from WM parents on these threads. Every time someone wants to make a list of relevant HS teams and leaves WM off, there is an instant rebuttal to include them. And they are a good team and should be in conversations of teams in contention. The other is the coach thing that comes up constantly. It seems pretty simple, stop lynching the coach and this goes away. But it seems every time WM comes up as a contender, it goes right to the coach discussion. Quit blaming the coach and deal with it. There is seriously only a small handful of great coaches spread thin through the high schools, believe me you are better off than most.

Another post about WM that dose not appear to be written by a WM parent. I'm thinking the number might be higher than 75%.

It is not a post by a WM parent. It reads very clearly that it is not a WM parent. It is written at WM parents.

Obviously not a WM parent as they were not blaming the poor play of their team on the coach.

No shortage of trolls that's for sure. No way any of those trolls would be responsible for a number of baiting posts regarding the coach. Wake up and stop taking the bait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two comments never ending from WM parents on these threads. Every time someone wants to make a list of relevant HS teams and leaves WM off, there is an instant rebuttal to include them. And they are a good team and should be in conversations of teams in contention. The other is the coach thing that comes up constantly. It seems pretty simple, stop lynching the coach and this goes away. But it seems every time WM comes up as a contender, it goes right to the coach discussion. Quit blaming the coach and deal with it. There is seriously only a small handful of great coaches spread thin through the high schools, believe me you are better off than most.

I completely agree. The WM parents need to wake up. You make the playoffs all the time. We never do, we get close but never get ourselves in and our daughters get the worst end of it.

Tell me this WM parents do your daughters get called out one by one and get ridiculed about all of their negative stats in front of the entire team? Has your daughter ever been told she can’t run midfield because she’s too fat? Does the WM coach call unplanned practices a half hour before they start and then punish the kids that don’t show up because they were working? Does she not let kids dress for games because they were at extra help the day before and came late? Does she “haze” the younger players because they have to “pay their dues”? We have gone to the AD and it has gone on deaf ears. We are fed up and we are sick of hearing about your so-called problems.

So unless your precious daughters are treated as ours are, stop complaining that they haven’t won a championship. YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Because there is not enough private school competition close by. About the $.

I get that there is not enough private school competition nearby (must be how St. Anthony's and Sacred Heart feel on Long Island!).

In my opinion, CBA should be able to scrimmage public schools, but not vie for the public school state championship (which they have won multiple times).

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges, particularly because private schools can recruit athletes and offer them scholarships.

What do you think?

Agreed. In Nassau A I see Port avenging the OT loss to Pequa this year and who do we see them playing to get to states?

No chance, won't even make the finals this year.

How come you don’t see Port making it to the finals this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two comments never ending from WM parents on these threads. Every time someone wants to make a list of relevant HS teams and leaves WM off, there is an instant rebuttal to include them. And they are a good team and should be in conversations of teams in contention. The other is the coach thing that comes up constantly. It seems pretty simple, stop lynching the coach and this goes away. But it seems every time WM comes up as a contender, it goes right to the coach discussion. Quit blaming the coach and deal with it. There is seriously only a small handful of great coaches spread thin through the high schools, believe me you are better off than most.

I completely agree. The WM parents need to wake up. You make the playoffs all the time. We never do, we get close but never get ourselves in and our daughters get the worst end of it.

Tell me this WM parents do your daughters get called out one by one and get ridiculed about all of their negative stats in front of the entire team? Has your daughter ever been told she can’t run midfield because she’s too fat? Does the WM coach call unplanned practices a half hour before they start and then punish the kids that don’t show up because they were working? Does she not let kids dress for games because they were at extra help the day before and came late? Does she “haze” the younger players because they have to “pay their dues”? We have gone to the AD and it has gone on deaf ears. We are fed up and we are sick of hearing about your so-called problems.

So unless your precious daughters are treated as ours are, stop complaining that they haven’t won a championship. YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

I have seen the WM coach on multiple occasions and she seems very professional and above all else respectful .If she wants to come coach at my daughters school with the revolving door of coaches picking up a pay check we would gladly have her .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain why a private school (Christian Brothers Academy, for example) qualifies to play in the New York State PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL Athletic Association?

Because there is not enough private school competition close by. About the $.

I get that there is not enough private school competition nearby (must be how St. Anthony's and Sacred Heart feel on Long Island!).

In my opinion, CBA should be able to scrimmage public schools, but not vie for the public school state championship (which they have won multiple times).

Public schools and private schools are apples and oranges, particularly because private schools can recruit athletes and offer them scholarships.

What do you think?

Agreed. In Nassau A I see Port avenging the OT loss to Pequa this year and who do we see them playing to get to states?

No chance, won't even make the finals this year.

How come you don’t see Port making it to the finals this year?

syosset and mass, when did port become a quality team?

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

I don't know what i'm talking about, so i have a few questions for you. What was their record? !st yr in power conference? Did thy basically beat cupcakes? Did they lose to syosset during the yr? How many ots did it take for them to beat syosset in the semis? Where did the 3 D1 players go, top 5 programs? I'll be waiting on the answers, this way, i'll comment when i have them. thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

Port has three D1 players left? What schools? They have one defender going to UNC but other than that there is nobody else left on that team playing D1 lacrosse. Did they have some kids transfer in this year? Please enlighten us - thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

Port has three D1 players left? What schools? They have one defender going to UNC but other than that there is nobody else left on that team playing D1 lacrosse. Did they have some kids transfer in this year? Please enlighten us - thank you

Not same poster and unsure of this years team but Port frosh girls are at Penn state, ECU and Lehigh, I’m sure the younger players have some commits besides UNC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

Port has three D1 players left? What schools? They have one defender going to UNC but other than that there is nobody else left on that team playing D1 lacrosse. Did they have some kids transfer in this year? Please enlighten us - thank you

Sorry One girl going to Brown on soccer scholarship who may play lax
one girl going to MIT and twins bout to commit to D1 so they you go wise guy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

Port has three D1 players left? What schools? They have one defender going to UNC but other than that there is nobody else left on that team playing D1 lacrosse. Did they have some kids transfer in this year? Please enlighten us - thank you

Sorry One girl going to Brown on soccer scholarship who may play lax
one girl going to MIT and twins bout to commit to D1 so they you go wise guy

That should scare the heck out of Conf A...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

Port has three D1 players left? What schools? They have one defender going to UNC but other than that there is nobody else left on that team playing D1 lacrosse. Did they have some kids transfer in this year? Please enlighten us - thank you

Not same poster and unsure of this years team but Port frosh girls are at Penn state, ECU and Lehigh, I’m sure the younger players have some commits besides UNC. [/quote

Also one girl at Adelphi. You didn’t mention.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

Port has three D1 players left? What schools? They have one defender going to UNC but other than that there is nobody else left on that team playing D1 lacrosse. Did they have some kids transfer in this year? Please enlighten us - thank you

Sorry One girl going to Brown on soccer scholarship who may play lax
one girl going to MIT and twins bout to commit to D1 so they you go wise guy

That may be tough for Port this year. My kid doesn't play in that division but having one D1 player a D3 player a D1 soccer player and two kids that may commit to some lower/mid level D1 school will definitely make for a challenging season in Conf A this year.

Good luck to all the girls trying out today

Yes...and a healthy season to follow for all the girls playing.

How are tryouts going for all the kids? Weather isnt helping!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are tryouts going for all the kids? Weather isnt helping!

Tryouts? tryouts are over, other than a handful of 8th/9th graders the teams were known before tryouts began

carle place is going to dominate. top 3 team on long island in any conference

Frogs? Really Frogs? Hahahahaha

tremendous athletes. look at their hoop team. good luck scoring on them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

tremendous athletes. look at their hoop team. good luck scoring on them

They have zero chance of getting off the island so why stir the pot .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

tremendous athletes. look at their hoop team. good luck scoring on them

Dad please put down the Chardonnay

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

[quote=Anonymous]What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

It says those 8th graders are impact players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

It means the three 8th graders are as good if not better than the rest of the Varsity squad including your daughter..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

That those 8th graders are good players or the coach wants them to practice with Varsity because they are their up and coming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

It all depends on what town you are from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

That those 8th graders are good players or the coach wants them to practice with Varsity because they are their up and coming.

Are we really talking about the frogs in girls lax? smh

it says the team stinks....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

In any school, every once in a while an athlete comes along and this practice is certainly justified. If it occurs once every few years or so, that sounds about right. Three in the same year is definitely not a case of a rare athelete coming along once in a while. What district?

see you in the playoffs.......if your squad is there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

In any school, every once in a while an athlete comes along and this practice is certainly justified. If it occurs once every few years or so, that sounds about right. Three in the same year is definitely not a case of a rare athelete coming along once in a while. What district?

I'm my kids school district they have only had one 8 grader ever on Varsity and she was an All American by her junior year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

see you in the playoffs.......if your squad is there

Do you know how playoff work? CP is D so they play nobody good in playoffs or all season basically. Their season is kinda of a joke for Nassau lax so please stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

That those 8th graders are good players or the coach wants them to practice with Varsity because they are their up and coming.

or one of their dad's is the JV coach, Can you say nepotism? Maybe it wouldn't look so bad if he was there a long time. It's his first year at HS and they pushed kid and friends up. A little quid pro quo?
Perception is Reality

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

That those 8th graders are good players or the coach wants them to practice with Varsity because they are their up and coming.

or one of their dad's is the JV coach, Can you say nepotism? Maybe it wouldn't look so bad if he was there a long time. It's his first year at HS and they pushed kid and friends up. A little quid pro quo?
Perception is Reality

My perception of you is that you are a loser who has a kid about to be replaced by an 8th grader.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it says the team stinks....

No disrespect, but you are clueless... Z

The majority of HS teams on The Island are extremely weak. Maybe the team needs bodies.

The majority of HS coaches are also extremely weak. Maybe the coach simply has no clue.

Very few 8th grade girls are ready to play at the varsity level on a quality team. Is it a strong team?

Few if any 8th grade girls are ready to compete against the stronger teams.

That said, I agree with an earlier post that stated "it depends on what town you are from". Very unlikely that we are talking about a top program. If it is a weak program and the girls are strong athletes maybe it makes sense but it is still a bit of a stretch. Personally, I do not think it is a good idea. Does anyone really think it is smart to have 13-14 year olds hanging out with 18 year olds?

More than likely it is a combination of reasons. IMHO it is foolish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

In any school, every once in a while an athlete comes along and this practice is certainly justified. If it occurs once every few years or so, that sounds about right. Three in the same year is definitely not a case of a rare athelete coming along once in a while. What district?

I'm my kids school district they have only had one 8 grader ever on Varsity and she was an All American by her junior year.

It truly depends upon the district. Sometimes it's because they don't have enough bodies and the need to fill the roster. Sometimes it's because the kid is good enough to play with girls that are four years older. If it's three kids my guess is it's to fill out the roster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The majority of HS teams on The Island are extremely weak. Maybe the team needs bodies.

The majority of HS coaches are also extremely weak. Maybe the coach simply has no clue.

Very few 8th grade girls are ready to play at the varsity level on a quality team. Is it a strong team?

Few if any 8th grade girls are ready to compete against the stronger teams.

That said, I agree with an earlier post that stated "it depends on what town you are from". Very unlikely that we are talking about a top program. If it is a weak program and the girls are strong athletes maybe it makes sense but it is still a bit of a stretch. Personally, I do not think it is a good idea. Does anyone really think it is smart to have 13-14 year olds hanging out with 18 year olds?

More than likely it is a combination of reasons. IMHO it is foolish.

7th and 8th grade girls should play middle school ball. If they are exceptional, then they should be brought up to JV. I have yet to see a middle school girl being brought up to Varsity do anything other than create a tense and divisive sideline. There may have been one somewhere that contributed on the field, but its the exception rather than the rule. A great 7th or 8th grader generally does not have the confidence, skill or physical attributes to compete on a varsity team. These are just my observations, and I'm sure all of you with superstar middle school girls will disagree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it says the team stinks....

No disrespect, but you are clueless... Z

None taken..but the team still stinks...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does it say about a team if they pulled up 3 8th graders to Varsity?

That those 8th graders are good players or the coach wants them to practice with Varsity because they are their up and coming.

or one of their dad's is the JV coach, Can you say nepotism? Maybe it wouldn't look so bad if he was there a long time. It's his first year at HS and they pushed kid and friends up. A little quid pro quo?
Perception is Reality

My perception of you is that you are a loser who has a kid about to be replaced by an 8th grader.

Why the name calling? Perception is Reality,, maybe its not true, but it's what people are thinking and saying.

Yes there are some great 7th and 8th graders that can be bought up and play with the varsity girls. IMO start them in JV and if they are holding their own they should be given the chance to play varsity. BTW - They have to pass physical and emotional tests to be bought up to play. Yes it is difficult when the team gets together and your daughter is being driven by her mother instead of letting her be driven by a school friend.....That's the hardest part. But level of play - your daughter has to be an impact player and the team will welcome her. It's up to the coach to set standard levels of play and to back his/her decision up. If an older player is getting bumped by a player whom is better...well that's life. It's also life to be a parent watch her friends, parties etc. It is still up to the parent to say NO. If said 7th/8th grader has older siblings, they know a lot already.

The coach may also be trying to build for the future and may need to develop the team with future leaders.

The only sport where this is reversed is cross country - some upstate teams who win States are filled with the younger girls - however the burn out by the time they reach 12th grade.

Do you hold back a gifted academic student to regular classes when AP is more challenging up to level and a chance for the student to grow and learn? To you move them up so their growth potential is not stagnated?

It's a fine balance.

D conference teams can rarely field anything but a varsity team no one is cut so they need anyone who wants to be on team in lacrosse
Not a superstar if you are on varsity in 8th grade just too few players to fill a roster

Any sleepers that could make a run in Suffolk this year? Westhampton? Riverhead?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any sleepers that could make a run in Suffolk this year? Westhampton? Riverhead?

Don't think so. Best bet in final four is:

Northport
West Islip
Smithtown E
Smithtown W

Riverhrad still too young.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any sleepers that could make a run in Suffolk this year? Westhampton? Riverhead?

Don't think so. Best bet in final four is:

Northport
West Islip
Smithtown E
Smithtown W

Riverhrad still too young.

I bet there are 8th graders on all of the above 4 teams...

Any other teams have the girls write some YJ BS on their skin before their HS games?

who are the go to folks who are stringing your daughters sticks this year?
There are a few stringers using social media to post pics etc. and have a mail order system, has anyone tried this route?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any other teams have the girls write some YJ BS on their skin before their HS games?

I've never seen this, and she plays for YJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any sleepers that could make a run in Suffolk this year? Westhampton? Riverhead?

Don't think so. Best bet in final four is:

Northport
West Islip
Smithtown E
Smithtown W

Riverhrad still too young.

I bet there are 8th graders on all of the above 4 teams...

West Islip doesn’t even have 9th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any sleepers that could make a run in Suffolk this year? Westhampton? Riverhead?

Don't think so. Best bet in final four is:

Northport
West Islip
Smithtown E
Smithtown W

Riverhrad still too young.

I bet there are 8th graders on all of the above 4 teams...

Not WI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The majority of HS teams on The Island are extremely weak. Maybe the team needs bodies.

The majority of HS coaches are also extremely weak. Maybe the coach simply has no clue.

Very few 8th grade girls are ready to play at the varsity level on a quality team. Is it a strong team?

Few if any 8th grade girls are ready to compete against the stronger teams.

That said, I agree with an earlier post that stated "it depends on what town you are from". Very unlikely that we are talking about a top program. If it is a weak program and the girls are strong athletes maybe it makes sense but it is still a bit of a stretch. Personally, I do not think it is a good idea. Does anyone really think it is smart to have 13-14 year olds hanging out with 18 year olds?

More than likely it is a combination of reasons. IMHO it is foolish.

ESM ranked 9 Nationally had 3 8th graders on team when they won States and um they played so try again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any sleepers that could make a run in Suffolk this year? Westhampton? Riverhead?

Don't think so. Best bet in final four is:

Northport
West Islip
Smithtown E
Smithtown W

Riverhrad still too young.

I bet there are 8th graders on all of the above 4 teams...

Not WI

I don't think northport either?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes there are some great 7th and 8th graders that can be bought up and play with the varsity girls. IMO start them in JV and if they are holding their own they should be given the chance to play varsity. BTW - They have to pass physical and emotional tests to be bought up to play. Yes it is difficult when the team gets together and your daughter is being driven by her mother instead of letting her be driven by a school friend.....That's the hardest part. But level of play - your daughter has to be an impact player and the team will welcome her. It's up to the coach to set standard levels of play and to back his/her decision up. If an older player is getting bumped by a player whom is better...well that's life. It's also life to be a parent watch her friends, parties etc. It is still up to the parent to say NO. If said 7th/8th grader has older siblings, they know a lot already.

The coach may also be trying to build for the future and may need to develop the team with future leaders.

The only sport where this is reversed is cross country - some upstate teams who win States are filled with the younger girls - however the burn out by the time they reach 12th grade.

Do you hold back a gifted academic student to regular classes when AP is more challenging up to level and a chance for the student to grow and learn? To you move them up so their growth potential is not stagnated?

It's a fine balance.

The evaluation/test of middle schooler is a joke, more often than not its supervised by the coach that wants the player, I've never heard of anyone not passing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes there are some great 7th and 8th graders that can be bought up and play with the varsity girls. IMO start them in JV and if they are holding their own they should be given the chance to play varsity. BTW - They have to pass physical and emotional tests to be bought up to play. Yes it is difficult when the team gets together and your daughter is being driven by her mother instead of letting her be driven by a school friend.....That's the hardest part. But level of play - your daughter has to be an impact player and the team will welcome her. It's up to the coach to set standard levels of play and to back his/her decision up. If an older player is getting bumped by a player whom is better...well that's life. It's also life to be a parent watch her friends, parties etc. It is still up to the parent to say NO. If said 7th/8th grader has older siblings, they know a lot already.

The coach may also be trying to build for the future and may need to develop the team with future leaders.

The only sport where this is reversed is cross country - some upstate teams who win States are filled with the younger girls - however the burn out by the time they reach 12th grade.

Do you hold back a gifted academic student to regular classes when AP is more challenging up to level and a chance for the student to grow and learn? To you move them up so their growth potential is not stagnated?

It's a fine balance.

The evaluation/test of middle schooler is a joke, more often than not its supervised by the coach that wants the player, I've never heard of anyone not passing

Port Washington had an 8th grade goalie fail this year and she was filling a vacancy by graduation. She failed running. That’s the AD. S

anyone know how the CSH round robin went today?

yes

Played in round robin with wm today. What's up with them???

Heard Ridgewood beat Garden City, realize its pre-season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes there are some great 7th and 8th graders that can be bought up and play with the varsity girls. IMO start them in JV and if they are holding their own they should be given the chance to play varsity. BTW - They have to pass physical and emotional tests to be bought up to play. Yes it is difficult when the team gets together and your daughter is being driven by her mother instead of letting her be driven by a school friend.....That's the hardest part. But level of play - your daughter has to be an impact player and the team will welcome her. It's up to the coach to set standard levels of play and to back his/her decision up. If an older player is getting bumped by a player whom is better...well that's life. It's also life to be a parent watch her friends, parties etc. It is still up to the parent to say NO. If said 7th/8th grader has older siblings, they know a lot already.

The coach may also be trying to build for the future and may need to develop the team with future leaders.

The only sport where this is reversed is cross country - some upstate teams who win States are filled with the younger girls - however the burn out by the time they reach 12th grade.

Do you hold back a gifted academic student to regular classes when AP is more challenging up to level and a chance for the student to grow and learn? To you move them up so their growth potential is not stagnated?

It's a fine balance.

The evaluation/test of middle schooler is a joke, more often than not its supervised by the coach that wants the player, I've never heard of anyone not passing

Port Washington had an 8th grade goalie fail this year and she was filling a vacancy by graduation. She failed running. That’s the AD. S

She's a goalie lol. How did she get that position in the first place? Not running. Duh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes there are some great 7th and 8th graders that can be bought up and play with the varsity girls. IMO start them in JV and if they are holding their own they should be given the chance to play varsity. BTW - They have to pass physical and emotional tests to be bought up to play. Yes it is difficult when the team gets together and your daughter is being driven by her mother instead of letting her be driven by a school friend.....That's the hardest part. But level of play - your daughter has to be an impact player and the team will welcome her. It's up to the coach to set standard levels of play and to back his/her decision up. If an older player is getting bumped by a player whom is better...well that's life. It's also life to be a parent watch her friends, parties etc. It is still up to the parent to say NO. If said 7th/8th grader has older siblings, they know a lot already.

The coach may also be trying to build for the future and may need to develop the team with future leaders.

The only sport where this is reversed is cross country - some upstate teams who win States are filled with the younger girls - however the burn out by the time they reach 12th grade.

Do you hold back a gifted academic student to regular classes when AP is more challenging up to level and a chance for the student to grow and learn? To you move them up so their growth potential is not stagnated?

It's a fine balance.

The evaluation/test of middle schooler is a joke, more often than not its supervised by the coach that wants the player, I've never heard of anyone not passing

Port Washington had an 8th grade goalie fail this year and she was filling a vacancy by graduation. She failed running. That’s the AD. S

She's a goalie lol. How did she get that position in the first place? Not running. Duh.

No but any other town the running would have been overlooked for the betterment of the program I’m sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Any sleepers that could make a run in Suffolk this year? Westhampton? Riverhead?

Don't think so. Best bet in final four is:

Northport
West Islip
Smithtown E
Smithtown W

Riverhrad still too young.

I bet there are 8th graders on all of the above 4 teams...

Not WI

I don't think northport either?

WI and Northport don't have 8th or 9th graders that can help their teams. I'm sure if they had impact players they'd be up and contributing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any other teams have the girls write some YJ BS on their skin before their HS games?

What are they writing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any other teams have the girls write some YJ BS on their skin before their HS games?

What are they writing?

They are writing their new motto......Fear the Hummingbird. Its a gentle sap sucking bird.

I can not believe the number of parents coaching their daughters from the sideline. People who really do not understand the game are yelling out instruction to their kids. I can only imagine what they are telling their kids at home. Note to parents, please stop telling your kids what to do on the field. You are not helping, you are hurting the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can not believe the number of parents coaching their daughters from the sideline. People who really do not understand the game are yelling out instruction to their kids. I can only imagine what they are telling their kids at home. Note to parents, please stop telling your kids what to do on the field. You are not helping, you are hurting the team.

I agree with you.Every kid is playing club nowadays. For these parents the committing and recruiting stakes are the end all be all. Used to be you only played your opponent but today parents view their kids as playing against their teammates. Go to GOAL!!! Used to be a great team game, not anymore. Too much college BS and me first play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can not believe the number of parents coaching their daughters from the sideline. People who really do not understand the game are yelling out instruction to their kids. I can only imagine what they are telling their kids at home. Note to parents, please stop telling your kids what to do on the field. You are not helping, you are hurting the team.

I agree with you.Every kid is playing club nowadays. For these parents the committing and recruiting stakes are the end all be all. Used to be you only played your opponent but today parents view their kids as playing against their teammates. Go to GOAL!!! Used to be a great team game, not anymore. Too much college BS and me first play.

Not sure that club has anything to do with it. I think it comes down to coaching. A strong HS coach will put an end to the selfish play very quickly. I think when you have a weak HS coach they do not know how to handle the selfish players so the behavior is allowed to continue. It is not only the head down go to goal every time you touch the ball that is a problem. The player who is constantly out of position, getting in the way of her teammates, constantly running all over the field calling for the ball, chasing the ball when re-defending and or playing defense while leaving an open player or space. (that type of play might be worse than the run of the mill ball hog).

Some people do not understand that it is a team game. I guess they do not care, if the team loses but their daughter scores a few goals everything is great.

Simply put, it’s a great game that is being ruined by delusional parents . It’s so uncomfortable to watch a game amongst loud mouth parents who only cheer for their own kid and second guess the coaches while reffing the game at same time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can not believe the number of parents coaching their daughters from the sideline. People who really do not understand the game are yelling out instruction to their kids. I can only imagine what they are telling their kids at home. Note to parents, please stop telling your kids what to do on the field. You are not helping, you are hurting the team.

I agree with you.Every kid is playing club nowadays. For these parents the committing and recruiting stakes are the end all be all. Used to be you only played your opponent but today parents view their kids as playing against their teammates. Go to GOAL!!! Used to be a great team game, not anymore. Too much college BS and me first play.

Not sure that club has anything to do with it. I think it comes down to coaching. A strong HS coach will put an end to the selfish play very quickly. I think when you have a weak HS coach they do not know how to handle the selfish players so the behavior is allowed to continue. It is not only the head down go to goal every time you touch the ball that is a problem. The player who is constantly out of position, getting in the way of her teammates, constantly running all over the field calling for the ball, chasing the ball when re-defending and or playing defense while leaving an open player or space. (that type of play might be worse than the run of the mill ball hog).

Some people do not understand that it is a team game. I guess they do not care, if the team loses but their daughter scores a few goals everything is great.

Well on our team the parents who drive their kids to Maryland every weekend are the most vocal and obnoxious. The other parents are talking about everything else but lacrosse. One because they still don't understand the game and two rarely do their kids get passed the ball. Its actually pretty funny. Really good athletes in other sports and lacrosse but since its not their #1 sport they usually don't see the ball. So much so that the other parents have to tell the parents who aren't paying attention HEY, mary just was passed the ball Haha

I have a question my BAC community, My daughter plays club she is an average player. She could become better with more coaching and strong coaching at that. She is still undecided as to what school she really wants to attend SJB or SA. My husband and I are not interested in the teams records or past performance, because in Catholic you only play a hand full of school in the division anyway. We value the coaches abilities to make 50/50 players 70/30 or even 80/20. She also does soccer, but she wants to focus on lacrosse as primary. Should I be looking elsewhere?

Maybe your money would be better put to use by attending ESL classes or remedial writing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simply put, it’s a great game that is being ruined by delusional parents . It’s so uncomfortable to watch a game amongst loud mouth parents who only cheer for their own kid and second guess the coaches while reffing the game at same time.

Second guessing the coach and reffing the game are part of sport. Go to a college Bball game or a super bowl party and you will hear it. The real problem is parents (especially the ones who do not know the game) coaching from the sideline and at home.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simply put, it’s a great game that is being ruined by delusional parents . It’s so uncomfortable to watch a game amongst loud mouth parents who only cheer for their own kid and second guess the coaches while reffing the game at same time.

Second guessing the coach and reffing the game are part of sport. Go to a college Bball game or a super bowl party and you will hear it. The real problem is parents (especially the ones who do not know the game) coaching from the sideline and at home.

Completely agree. These parents think their daughter is the only one on the field. Next time you hear one of them barking out orders from the sideline ask them what they would like the other 11 players on the field to do. Ask them what they think their daughter should be doing when she does not have the ball (they will tell you she should be trying to get the ball).

Questioning the coach or the official in most cases is not a problem. Arm chair quarterbacks question professional athletes and coaches all the time they also yell at the officials. Those two things do not influence the game. The parent who coaches from the sideline or who gives the wrong instruction at home is actually hurting the team. It is a team sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simply put, it’s a great game that is being ruined by delusional parents . It’s so uncomfortable to watch a game amongst loud mouth parents who only cheer for their own kid and second guess the coaches while reffing the game at same time.

Try this.... cheer for all of the kids with the same enthusiasm you cheer for your own. If everyone did that it would be great to attend the games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simply put, it’s a great game that is being ruined by delusional parents . It’s so uncomfortable to watch a game amongst loud mouth parents who only cheer for their own kid and second guess the coaches while reffing the game at same time.

Try this.... cheer for all of the kids with the same enthusiasm you cheer for your own. If everyone did that it would be great to attend the games.

Try this.....Drop lax and play in the band.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question my BAC community, My daughter plays club she is an average player. She could become better with more coaching and strong coaching at that. She is still undecided as to what school she really wants to attend SJB or SA. My husband and I are not interested in the teams records or past performance, because in Catholic you only play a hand full of school in the division anyway. We value the coaches abilities to make 50/50 players 70/30 or even 80/20. She also does soccer, but she wants to focus on lacrosse as primary. Should I be looking elsewhere?

Athletics shouldn't be the primary reason for choosing a school. Let her choose the school that is the right feel for her. both of those schools have excellent athletics and academics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question my BAC community, My daughter plays club she is an average player. She could become better with more coaching and strong coaching at that. She is still undecided as to what school she really wants to attend SJB or SA. My husband and I are not interested in the teams records or past performance, because in Catholic you only play a hand full of school in the division anyway. We value the coaches abilities to make 50/50 players 70/30 or even 80/20. She also does soccer, but she wants to focus on lacrosse as primary. Should I be looking elsewhere?

Athletics shouldn't be the primary reason for choosing a school. Let her choose the school that is the right feel for her. both of those schools have excellent athletics and academics.

Yes, you should focus on what feels like the best fit for your daughter academically, socially and extracurriculars. I have had girls in the catholic system for many years. If your daughter is "Average", she might not make STA's and if she does, won't see the field. There are D1 commits who don't play in games. SJB coach is good, has had some down years the last 2, but SJB will be much easier to make the team than at STA's.

St. A's just cut a few juniors...so nothing is given there..not sure about SJB....kids have to be better than the next girl or they will get cut/ride the bench..that gets old if your daughter likes the sport..

Making a team at St A's is harder than making most D3 schools just because of the amount of players looking to play

Yea sure it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Making a team at St A's is harder than making most D3 schools just because of the amount of players looking to play

LOL, academically most of the athletes at SA couldn't get into a decent D3 school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Making a team at St A's is harder than making most D3 schools just because of the amount of players looking to play

Talent is way down at St Ants compared to the Bill/Behr days...so you can relax mom...

SA is ranked eight in the country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question my BAC community, My daughter plays club she is an average player. She could become better with more coaching and strong coaching at that. She is still undecided as to what school she really wants to attend SJB or SA. My husband and I are not interested in the teams records or past performance, because in Catholic you only play a hand full of school in the division anyway. We value the coaches abilities to make 50/50 players 70/30 or even 80/20. She also does soccer, but she wants to focus on lacrosse as primary. Should I be looking elsewhere?

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question my BAC community, My daughter plays club she is an average player. She could become better with more coaching and strong coaching at that. She is still undecided as to what school she really wants to attend SJB or SA. My husband and I are not interested in the teams records or past performance, because in Catholic you only play a hand full of school in the division anyway. We value the coaches abilities to make 50/50 players 70/30 or even 80/20. She also does soccer, but she wants to focus on lacrosse as primary. Should I be looking elsewhere?

Short answer is SA is very competitive, coach does training$ on the side for cash, if you want to get on that asap it can only help, but most kids started doing that in 6-7 grade and she is a little crazy. The school in general has a win at all cost mentality, so if your daughter isn't a stud her opportunities will be minimal in both sports - soccer coach also runs a pay to play club team and steers all her players to SA.
SJB isn't really competitive in lacrosse or soccer and it's a much more relaxed atmosphere, she will probably get a shot a significant playing time.
Academically they are about the same. Sacred Heart? Kellenberg? Both much better academically and field competitive teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

OK. So that sounds like a positive and upbeat attitude to start the season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Looks like the big scoring had a 14 point effort in a win by 10

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

OK. So that sounds like a positive and upbeat attitude to start the season!

High School Lacrosse and Newsday are both irrelevant. 90% of the teams on Long Island are not competitive and 90% of the coaches on Long Island are terrible. Selfish players and their parents create problems on the field as well as the sideline. If you are fortunate enough to play for one of the 8 - 10 strong programs consider yourself lucky.

This will not sit well with many of you but... Thank God for Club Lacrosse. Club lacrosse has provided an outlet for many girls from HS programs with weak coaches to be recognized so that they will be able to pursue their passion at the next level. Every college coach that recruited my daughter said that they could care less about HS lacrosse (yes, our HS situation was discussed). They said that they understand and that they saw what they needed to see during the summer. It was my first time around so I asked a lot of questions and it became very clear to me that HS Lacrosse truly is irrelevant. Maybe if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for GC, Manhasset, Mt. Sinai, BBP, ESM, WI etc... and she has a good HS coach and a legit chance to compete it is fun and positive. For many the HS experience is not positive. It is an unfortunate reality but in the end the HS coach, the delusional parents, the selfish players, the statistics, the honors etc are all meaningless and irrelevant. We are grateful that the club experience was positive and that our daughter will attend a great school with a very competitive lacrosse program. We are optimistic and looking forward to a bright future.

why do you need to bash a particular school or team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Making a team at St A's is harder than making most D3 schools just because of the amount of players looking to play

LOL, academically most of the athletes at SA couldn't get into a decent D3 school

Ohhhh .....those green eyes of Jealousy come out this time of year. The ST A's kids just go to Ivies, Academies etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

OK. So that sounds like a positive and upbeat attitude to start the season!

Newsday and Long Island Girls High School lacrosse are irrelevant. So are the incompetent coaches, the selfish players and the delusional parents. If your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the 8 - 10 strong programs consider yourself and your daughter lucky.

This will not sit well with some of you but ... Thank God for Club Lacrosse. Club Lacrosse has provided an outlet for many girls and allowed them to be recognized so that they can continue to pursue their passion at the next level. Newsday, inflated statistics, incompetent coaches, selfish players, meaningless honors and insane parents are all irrelevant. Every college coach who recruited my daughter said that they could care less about HS Lacrosse (yes, the situation was discussed). We were told by the coaches that they saw what they needed to see during the summer and that they really do not pay attention to the HS season. This was our first go round so I ask a lot of questions and it became very clear to me that HS was all BS. Maybe if your daughter plays for a good coach at GC, Manhasset, Mt.Sinai, ESM, WI, BBP etc your daughter will have a fun and meaningful HS career. For many the HS experience is not positive. Incompetent coaches, selfish players and bad sidelines ruin any chance of a fun positive experience. We were fortunate to have Club Lacrosse and we are grateful that our daughter will attend a great school with a competitive lacrosse team and a great coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Looks like the big scoring had a 14 point effort in a win by 10

And another Nassau girl put up 10 Goals but at least her team lost in OT and they seemed to need every one of those goals! Let the games begin!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores?
High School Lacrosse and Newsday are both irrelevant. 90% of the teams on Long Island are not competitive and 90% of the coaches on Long Island are terrible. Selfish players and their parents create problems on the field as well as the sideline. If you are fortunate enough to play for one of the 8 - 10 strong programs consider yourself lucky.

This will not sit well with many of you but... Thank God for Club Lacrosse. Club lacrosse has provided an outlet for many girls from HS programs with weak coaches to be recognized so that they will be able to pursue their passion at the next level. Every college coach that recruited my daughter said that they could care less about HS lacrosse (yes, our HS situation was discussed). They said that they understand and that they saw what they needed to see during the summer. It was my first time around so I asked a lot of questions and it became very clear to me that HS Lacrosse truly is irrelevant. Maybe if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for GC, Manhasset, Mt. Sinai, BBP, ESM, WI etc... and she has a good HS coach and a legit chance to compete it is fun and positive. For many the HS experience is not positive. It is an unfortunate reality but in the end the HS coach, the delusional parents, the selfish players, the statistics, the honors etc are all meaningless and irrelevant. We are grateful that the club experience was positive and that our daughter will attend a great school with a very competitive lacrosse program. We are optimistic and looking forward to a bright future.

Those same club girls are the ones that stat pad like crazy in HS. Why? because most of us don't know what they do on their club teams so they want to make sure the world sees.On the HS teams with weaker coaches they run wild. And Newsday does matter because they all list their HS point totals in their college bios, not their club tallies. KO from SB lists 255 goals in HS and 100 and something point season right below her tewarten nomination

Most st a kids wind up as prison guards

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

Sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores?
High School Lacrosse and Newsday are both irrelevant. 90% of the teams on Long Island are not competitive and 90% of the coaches on Long Island are terrible. Selfish players and their parents create problems on the field as well as the sideline. If you are fortunate enough to play for one of the 8 - 10 strong programs consider yourself lucky.

This will not sit well with many of you but... Thank God for Club Lacrosse. Club lacrosse has provided an outlet for many girls from HS programs with weak coaches to be recognized so that they will be able to pursue their passion at the next level. Every college coach that recruited my daughter said that they could care less about HS lacrosse (yes, our HS situation was discussed). They said that they understand and that they saw what they needed to see during the summer. It was my first time around so I asked a lot of questions and it became very clear to me that HS Lacrosse truly is irrelevant. Maybe if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for GC, Manhasset, Mt. Sinai, BBP, ESM, WI etc... and she has a good HS coach and a legit chance to compete it is fun and positive. For many the HS experience is not positive. It is an unfortunate reality but in the end the HS coach, the delusional parents, the selfish players, the statistics, the honors etc are all meaningless and irrelevant. We are grateful that the club experience was positive and that our daughter will attend a great school with a very competitive lacrosse program. We are optimistic and looking forward to a bright future.

Those same club girls are the ones that stat pad like crazy in HS. Why? because most of us don't know what they do on their club teams so they want to make sure the world sees.On the HS teams with weaker coaches they run wild. And Newsday does matter because they all list their HS point totals in their college bios, not their club tallies. KO from SB lists 255 goals in HS and 100 and something point season right below her tewarten nomination

Not all of them, and not the ones who play for good coaches at strong programs. Big difference between a player like kO and the girls who try to run through 2 and 3 girls. My daughters team has many club girls and only one is really over the top with selfish play. two of the others are selfish but not as bad as the other. Coaches are a big part of the problem because they can't control it. Very ugly to watch and it will definitely result in another underperforming team.

this comment is Ridiculous. The catholic schools are great here on LI. Even I can say that ST Ant's kids are competitive, disciplined, academically strong, seem well mannered when it counts which is not the norm at this age. SJB is a great school as well. Same moral codes and message.
friends there who left public schools are amazed and delighted at the change in their kids/athletes. and mostly, academics is #1 focus there, from the words of the coaches. support is there, also, every day of the week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

I call BS......Sure, you "heard" that kid {probably your kid} is one of the best in the country. Go ahead and pound your chest. But don't come on here and call it a close game. 17-7 is NOT a close game. That score is equivalent to a basketball game score of 68-28. If I told you the leading scorer of that blow out basketball game scored 56 of the 68 points, nobody in their right mind would say, "needed every point to win that close game".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

OK. So that sounds like a positive and upbeat attitude to start the season!

High School Lacrosse and Newsday are both irrelevant. 90% of the teams on Long Island are not competitive and 90% of the coaches on Long Island are terrible. Selfish players and their parents create problems on the field as well as the sideline. If you are fortunate enough to play for one of the 8 - 10 strong programs consider yourself lucky.

This will not sit well with many of you but... Thank God for Club Lacrosse. Club lacrosse has provided an outlet for many girls from HS programs with weak coaches to be recognized so that they will be able to pursue their passion at the next level. Every college coach that recruited my daughter said that they could care less about HS lacrosse (yes, our HS situation was discussed). They said that they understand and that they saw what they needed to see during the summer. It was my first time around so I asked a lot of questions and it became very clear to me that HS Lacrosse truly is irrelevant. Maybe if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for GC, Manhasset, Mt. Sinai, BBP, ESM, WI etc... and she has a good HS coach and a legit chance to compete it is fun and positive. For many the HS experience is not positive. It is an unfortunate reality but in the end the HS coach, the delusional parents, the selfish players, the statistics, the honors etc are all meaningless and irrelevant. We are grateful that the club experience was positive and that our daughter will attend a great school with a very competitive lacrosse program. We are optimistic and looking forward to a bright future.

It blows my mind but this is true. Been through the process twice, sat, spoke and dealt with many coaches during recruit visits and coaches meetings. They don’t look or care one single bit about HS. Don’t even bother following up with HS coaches. It is 100% club driven process

Originally Posted by Anonymous

this comment is Ridiculous. The catholic schools are great here on LI. Even I can say that ST Ant's kids are competitive, disciplined, academically strong, seem well mannered when it counts which is not the norm at this age. SJB is a great school as well. Same moral codes and message.
friends there who left public schools are amazed and delighted at the change in their kids/athletes. and mostly, academics is #1 focus there, from the words of the coaches. support is there, also, every day of the week.

yeah yeah, keep drinking the kool-aide

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

OK. So that sounds like a positive and upbeat attitude to start the season!

High School Lacrosse and Newsday are both irrelevant. 90% of the teams on Long Island are not competitive and 90% of the coaches on Long Island are terrible. Selfish players and their parents create problems on the field as well as the sideline. If you are fortunate enough to play for one of the 8 - 10 strong programs consider yourself lucky.

This will not sit well with many of you but... Thank God for Club Lacrosse. Club lacrosse has provided an outlet for many girls from HS programs with weak coaches to be recognized so that they will be able to pursue their passion at the next level. Every college coach that recruited my daughter said that they could care less about HS lacrosse (yes, our HS situation was discussed). They said that they understand and that they saw what they needed to see during the summer. It was my first time around so I asked a lot of questions and it became very clear to me that HS Lacrosse truly is irrelevant. Maybe if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for GC, Manhasset, Mt. Sinai, BBP, ESM, WI etc... and she has a good HS coach and a legit chance to compete it is fun and positive. For many the HS experience is not positive. It is an unfortunate reality but in the end the HS coach, the delusional parents, the selfish players, the statistics, the honors etc are all meaningless and irrelevant. We are grateful that the club experience was positive and that our daughter will attend a great school with a very competitive lacrosse program. We are optimistic and looking forward to a bright future.

It blows my mind but this is true. Been through the process twice, sat, spoke and dealt with many coaches during recruit visits and coaches meetings. They don’t look or care one single bit about HS. Don’t even bother following up with HS coaches. It is 100% club driven process

explains exactly why travel directors have folks grovel at their feet....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

UHH, the won by 10. Pass the ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

I call BS......Sure, you "heard" that kid {probably your kid} is one of the best in the country. Go ahead and pound your chest. But don't come on here and call it a close game. 17-7 is NOT a close game. That score is equivalent to a basketball game score of 68-28. If I told you the leading scorer of that blow out basketball game scored 56 of the 68 points, nobody in their right mind would say, "needed every point to win that close game".

Can just see the proud Papi at the water cooler now..." Funny you should mention the NCAA bball tournament.....my little S--I scored 14 goals yest during a HS lax game....what a talent she is....watching her run the length of the field and score 14 goals is something to see....sure she missed 10 shots too, but her teammates were cheering her every shot as they stood around!"

CR is one of the most powerful people in the entire sport. Earns way more than most college coaches, carries more weight. runs the tournament circuit, has her hands in all the BS all star games and owns US lacrosse to boot.

And you know what? Delaying verbals until 11th grade is actually great for her and the clubs because it keeps the kids on the hook for another 2 years instead of 8th graders verbaling. Now everyone has to stay really motivated with club until 11th. Clinics Fall ball, tournaments etc ca-ching ca-ching ca-ching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR is one of the most powerful people in the entire sport. Earns way more than most college coaches, carries more weight. runs the tournament circuit, has her hands in all the BS all star games and owns US lacrosse to boot.

And you know what? Delaying verbals until 11th grade is actually great for her and the clubs because it keeps the kids on the hook for another 2 years instead of 8th graders verbaling. Now everyone has to stay really motivated with club until 11th. Clinics Fall ball, tournaments etc ca-ching ca-ching ca-ching

nailed it...cash cow continues..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

I call BS......Sure, you "heard" that kid {probably your kid} is one of the best in the country. Go ahead and pound your chest. But don't come on here and call it a close game. 17-7 is NOT a close game. That score is equivalent to a basketball game score of 68-28. If I told you the leading scorer of that blow out basketball game scored 56 of the 68 points, nobody in their right mind would say, "needed every point to win that close game".

Can just see the proud Papi at the water cooler now..." Funny you should mention the NCAA bball tournament.....my little S--I scored 14 goals yest during a HS lax game....what a talent she is....watching her run the length of the field and score 14 goals is something to see....sure she missed 10 shots too, but her teammates were cheering her every shot as they stood around!"

Pretty sure that was sarcasm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

UHH, the won by 10. Pass the ball

Passing is frowned upon!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Looks like the big scoring had a 14 point effort in a win by 10

And another Nassau girl put up 10 Goals but at least her team lost in OT and they seemed to need every one of those goals! Let the games begin!

There is a big difference in putting up 10 goals in an OT loss yesterday than putting up 14 goals in a 10 goal win. Two totally different situations in my book! Oddly enough, the girl who had 10 also had 2 assists while the girl who posted 14 goals in the 10 goal win yesterday had ZERO assists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

How did Port do today? How did all the D1 girls fair against Pequa?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you haven’t been paying attention Port has defeated Syosset in playoffs 2 straight years and has only lost to pequa to prevent county championships last year in ot. Yes they are quality. Graduated 3 D1 players and have 3 more left. Don’t comment if u don’t know.

How did Port do today? How did all the D1 girls fair against Pequa?

Port graduated 3 players at D1 and 1 at Adelphi only have D1 on this years team for the record. Not sure where that poster got that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Looks like the big scoring had a 14 point effort in a win by 10

Who cares it's wheatly lacrosse, weakest conference, weakest schedule, I'm sure a good 7th grade PAL town team could win that conference. this is as bad as talking about carle place lacrosse - both are irrelevant

Is the Riverhead dynasty over already? That's not the way to start a championship season

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

sorry your Shannon didnt get credit for hers. Coach submits whoever she wants for points and assists. Coaches like to pad stats for certain players especially towns that never win so at least they have a big point getter to talk about.

Posting stats is the worse thing that ever happened to girls lacrosse. Its a team game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

The winning team supplies the stats for each game to newsday. If the team has someone doing their book that does not know what they are doing it gets messed up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Newsday is not the official stat keeper for HS sports. Your coach has the official stats for your team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

That’s a very good point. I’m pretty sure it’s a sideline player or team manager who has the discretion to credit stats to their pals.
Sucking up to the some star players can lead to party invites etc.

Why ask here?
Call the coach and ask how stats are kept.
Make sure to let colleges you are interested in that you worry about unfair numbers.

Where is that Port Dad with all those D1 players now???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simply put, it’s a great game that is being ruined by delusional parents . It’s so uncomfortable to watch a game amongst loud mouth parents who only cheer for their own kid and second guess the coaches while reffing the game at same time.

Try this.... cheer for all of the kids with the same enthusiasm you cheer for your own. If everyone did that it would be great to attend the games.

Try this.....Drop lax and play in the band.

[ChillLaxin]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR is one of the most powerful people in the entire sport. Earns way more than most college coaches, carries more weight. runs the tournament circuit, has her hands in all the BS all star games and owns US lacrosse to boot.

And you know what? Delaying verbals until 11th grade is actually great for her and the clubs because it keeps the kids on the hook for another 2 years instead of 8th graders verbaling. Now everyone has to stay really motivated with club until 11th. Clinics Fall ball, tournaments etc ca-ching ca-ching ca-ching

nailed it...cash cow continues..

"Carries more weight," "cash cow" - I see what you did there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

And here we go........3 months of complaining about.....stat padding, too many goals, too big a scoring margin, no passing, go to goal ball hogs,... all brought to you by some pompous negative fans who need to complain about something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

How does Suffolk County look this year.

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

So volunteer. Quit complaining and act.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

And here we go........3 months of complaining about.....stat padding, too many goals, too big a scoring margin, no passing, go to goal ball hogs,... all brought to you by some pompous negative fans who need to complain about something.

I guess your kid is one of those who score 7 goals in a game when her team wins by 15. Say what you want but poor sportsmanship is on full display thru out the girls lax season and parents like you, the coaches and the AD's should be embarrassed of themselves. The good news my kids team is just as unsportsmanlike so they will just crosscheck your little stat padding ball hog in the head..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ask here?
Call the coach and ask how stats are kept.
Make sure to let colleges you are interested in that you worry about unfair numbers.

I get it, better to ask here then seem like a crazy parent to the coach make sense. Our coach actually makes fun of it, while apologizing weekly. Many times in the form of sarcasm, directed to the player whom received the erroneous stat. Lightens the mood.

I will tell you this, as far as College coaches, I'd suspect college coaches are looking (especially at a contested game) so they see their future player/prospect (especially if a star player, a star player without stats is worrisome, coach is thinking injury or issue).

Other things are social; neighbors, friends, family. and to be truthful, If we are on here we are looking at our home town and comps stat lines

It all matters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

Why don't you volunteer to keep stats or pay for the adult score keeper out of your pocket. I agree the books should be verified by both teams before it's marked official but the book/score keep sometimes get wrapped up in the game and may miss something. Now before you say they should be fired for not doing their job well think about who we are talking about. Some hs kid making a few bucks trying his best.

Don't worry we all know your daughter scored all of the goals. The coaches will find her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

So volunteer. Quit complaining and act.

Easier said then done, please think, games are during the work day.

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

And here we go........3 months of complaining about.....stat padding, too many goals, too big a scoring margin, no passing, go to goal ball hogs,... all brought to you by some pompous negative fans who need to complain about something.

I guess your kid is one of those who score 7 goals in a game when her team wins by 15. Say what you want but poor sportsmanship is on full display thru out the girls lax season and parents like you, the coaches and the AD's should be embarrassed of themselves. The good news my kids team is just as unsportsmanlike so they will just crosscheck your little stat padding ball hog in the head..

And your ignorant stupid comment has made my case. Do you actually listen to yourself or at least pause before you send your comment on crosschecking a player in the head. I'm sure your fat/lazy [ChillLaxin]has never been crosschecked in the head. You are a braggart......my daughter would kick your A$$

All the girls list their club team, the all star team selections, their HS awards and of course their Newsday stats in their college bios

The stat padders are all trying to play in college. It all matters in self promotion especially in a sport with so few truly exceptional players. Most of our girls are very close ability wise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ask here?
Call the coach and ask how stats are kept.
Make sure to let colleges you are interested in that you worry about unfair numbers.

I get it, better to ask here then seem like a crazy parent to the coach make sense. Our coach actually makes fun of it, while apologizing weekly. Many times in the form of sarcasm, directed to the player whom received the erroneous stat. Lightens the mood.

I will tell you this, as far as College coaches, I'd suspect college coaches are looking (especially at a contested game) so they see their future player/prospect (especially if a star player, a star player without stats is worrisome, coach is thinking injury or issue).

Other things are social; neighbors, friends, family. and to be truthful, If we are on here we are looking at our home town and comps stat lines

It all matters

No, it does not matter if the stats are wrong in Newsday. College coaches are in the middle of their season and that is their focus. They do not recruit at HS games and they do not put too much stock in stats. They have watched their recruits many times over the years and they know what they are getting.

Some players will put up numbers in HS games but rarely stand out in competitive club games. Other players actually perform better when playing against better competition.

There is a reason the best college coaches at the best programs do not bother with HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Suffolk County look this year.

Snowing at the moment

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

Syosset over Wantagh no Surprise to much turn around in Wantagh last couple years going to be a long season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

I don't think that most people care enough to actually call Newsday because they didn't credit their daughter with a goal. Nothing else they print in that rag is accurate or true so why would you expect them to get HS stats correct.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

How about the parents that call there school coach and AD and newsday , because there daughter did not get credit for a goal or assist that she had. pathetic parents. They think there daughter is super star, while she is going to a D3 school and probably won't start.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

So volunteer. Quit complaining and act.

Easier said then done, please think, games are during the work day.

If you had parents doing stats you will have same problem, parents padding kids stats.. Look at SWR stats 2013, 2014, 2015. over inflated. Parent calling adding stats..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

I don't think that most people care enough to actually call Newsday because they didn't credit their daughter with a goal. Nothing else they print in that rag is accurate or true so why would you expect them to get HS stats correct.

I know one that called newsday last year. daughter still on team, a senior and I'm sure they will call again.Suffolk county team, south shore, going to D3 college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Suffolk County look this year.

Snowing at the moment

Mt. Sinai best in Suffolk.
BBP will be strong.
ESM not as strong as past few years. very young.
West Islip will be better than last year.
Northport returns top players. Should compete.

How about next tier - can they compete with BBP. Assume Sinai untouchable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

Wantagh is in for a long season...

Might be a stupid question, but I have always gotten scores off of "sportscentral.news12varsity.com" site but this year there are no scores posted or daily updates. Other than the newspaper, where else are you folks getting your scores and stats? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

So volunteer. Quit complaining and act.

Easier said then done, please think, games are during the work day.

If you had parents doing stats you will have same problem, parents padding kids stats.. Look at SWR stats 2013, 2014, 2015. over inflated. Parent calling adding stats..

You would think an adult would get it right, and an actual parent of a player would be embarrassed to inflate because they look like an ass inflating stats. Could be worse, we had a player's little sister keeping stats. You wanna talk about cooking the books! it is one thing to inflate numbers, its another to deflate others for your own agenda and that happens as often. HS ball is meaningless, have your kid go kick ass in summer ball and fall ball and everything will fall into place.

newsday online. scores and stats

Ever since News12 took over from MSG Varsity it’s been terrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

I know manhasset lost, but watched GC play last weekend, they are not very good. Manhasset will beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about next tier - can they compete with BBP. Assume Sinai untouchable.

don't think so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

I know manhasset lost, but watched GC play last weekend, they are not very good. Manhasset will beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

I know manhasset lost, but watched GC play last weekend, they are not very good. Manhasset will beat them.

You watched a scrimmage?! Everyon plays in a scrimmage, get a grip. Was your daughter was playing or your a stalker?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

I know manhasset lost, but watched GC play last weekend, they are not very good. Manhasset will beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

I know manhasset lost, but watched GC play last weekend, they are not very good. Manhasset will beat them.

You watched a scrimmage?! Everyon plays in a scrimmage, get a grip. Was your daughter was playing or your a stalker?

So anyone who watches a lacrosse game, or enjoys girls lacrosse is a stalker, or are you just an [ChillLaxin]h@le

How come every time people post about who's going to be a contender nobody ever mentions ward melville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

I know manhasset lost, but watched GC play last weekend, they are not very good. Manhasset will beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in Newsday, but CSH beat Manhasset last night... Surprised by Syosset over Wantagh. GC win expected.

I know manhasset lost, but watched GC play last weekend, they are not very good. Manhasset will beat them.

You watched a scrimmage?! Everyon plays in a scrimmage, get a grip. Was your daughter was playing or your a stalker?

So anyone who watches a lacrosse game, or enjoys girls lacrosse is a stalker, or are you just an [ChillLaxin]h@le

The sport has turned so toxic that only parents go to watch because they cant stand people like the one who responded to you. He's shocked that someone actually still likes the sport. People like him have ruined a great team game

Because they are not a good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because they are not a good team.

are you replying to something or talking to yourself

People who think wm is not a good team or serious contender are delusional.

He is inaccurately referring to Garden City.

What team is do you root for? My prediction is your are wrong GC >

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because they are not a good team.

are you replying to something or talking to yourself

Just another low life troll trying to start trouble. There have been three attempts to bait since Saturday. Let the morons keep fishing.

GC is way down this year.

GC and Wantagh are both down. Never saw a GC team drop so many balls before. Wantagh will struggle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, help me out!

Since it is the beginning of the year, Ill say it. How or what can be done if the Newsday stats got it all wrong. In a relatively contested game. Goals are given to players that didnt even come close to the offensive zone and assists to players on defense who didnt cross midfield?

Who is responsible for this. I thought the books of each team need to be verified before the game was called official.

Bring the wize cracks on but I hope to get the real answer as well. We all have the films already so the coach already knows.

Who cares? Honestly are you really concerned? Not a wisecrack , just amazed that people actually care enough to try to have it changed.

Actually most people care and if they are going to put stats in the paper they should at least get them correct. That is why you should have an adult keeping the stats for both teams who should compare the books at the end of the game .It also keeps teams honest about the stats of their players. With your concept why keep stats at all just keep the score of the game.

If something is wrong, the coach can call Newsday and they will adjust it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC is way down this year.

Look for Long Beach, North Shore, Plainedge and Lynbrook to have solid seasons

After their 2016 state championship, they lost 17 seniors including a bunch of starters. The won another state championship in 2017. They lost 9 seniors and, once again, a bunch of starters this year. Happens every year. Look for another very strong season. They’ll be fine.

Solid seasons. Please stop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC is way down this year.

Look for Long Beach, North Shore, Plainedge and Lynbrook to have solid seasons

Don't forget wheatley and carle place

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC and Wantagh are both down. Never saw a GC team drop so many balls before. Wantagh will struggle.

Every year someone comes on here and says GC is down and then they win the States again. They have great coaching and good players, they will be fine. Wantagh has a new coach again (3 in 4 years). I heard they have more freshman and sophomores than Juniors and seniors. They will struggle but should be around at the end in the C's with CSH, NS and Plainedge and Lynbrook

Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC is way down this year.

Look for Long Beach, North Shore, Plainedge and Lynbrook to have solid seasons

Don't forget wheatley and carle place

Here’s a hint and my daughter graduated and now plays D1. Stop bringing up CP or Wheatley like they are near the same level as Conference 1 lax because these people are going to abuse you. Any team where a girl can possibly score 14 goals should be ashamed of its self. Much less discussed as good. Sorry but that needs to be said.

not just score 14 goals but have to figure she shot another 5-10 times and missed?....joke....

Will someone stop with carle place wheatley! Do they have any girls going div 1?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will someone stop with carle place wheatley! Do they have any girls going div 1?

Not from either town....but you really have to get off the D1 thing. It's girls lacrosse folks. There is no NBA, NFL, NHL or MLB contract to be had here. What division they end up in is only a big deal to wacky parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will someone stop with carle place wheatley! Do they have any girls going div 1?

Gardner Webb?

In what world would c.p. ever have a player who can play at any level in college?
Why because they might have players on some low level pay for play club team? Parents getting robbed and are delusional if they think that it will happen.wbpnkz

Yes

Lacrosse is the easiest path to playing a varsity sport in college especially if you are from NY or Maryland. So we can all keep thumping our chests because those who want to play in college will. As for the other sports, not so much

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine

Are all fields at Manhassett turf?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are all fields at Manhassett turf?

Cleared one field. Modified schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine
If your child was in it, you would know. If you're coming to watch why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is the easiest path to playing a varsity sport in college especially if you are from NY or Maryland. So we can all keep thumping our chests because those who want to play in college will. As for the other sports, not so much

You don’t thump your chest bc you never were good at sports and apparently neither are your kids otherwise you wouldn’t be such a hater. Still a very low percentage of lax players go D1 even from MD or NY sweetie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are all fields at Manhassett turf?

Cleared one field. Modified schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine
If your child was in it, you would know. If you're coming to watch why?
Obviously not a 'set parent, or anyone ever having been lucky enough to play with 'set. Why we would go is because we love lacrosse, not just because our daughter is playing. Because we support the program, coaches , and players long after graduation, unlike you and your program. Because if you knew 'set (or Garden City for that matter) you would know just how big lax is there, not just a momentary distraction while our daughters play like in your small world. Or maybe it's just because we're lacrosse fans that enjoy watching it played well, unlike you who never picked up a stick, and likes to besmirch people by calling them names, or eluding to nefarious intentions because YOU don't think its appropriate. In short why do up care why people watch you [ChillLaxin]hole

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are all fields at Manhassett turf?

Cleared one field. Modified schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine
If your child was in it, you would know. If you're coming to watch why?

Maybe he is a scout or coach from UNC. Isn't that what all you loony parents want?

GC looked good yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC looked good yesterday.

Until they played Sinai 😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

Yeah uncommitted 2019 coached by DK at Elevate. Tops in the country!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are all fields at Manhassett turf?

Cleared one field. Modified schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Manhasett scrimmage still at n for Saturday?

Fields should be clear and the weather is fine
If your child was in it, you would know. If you're coming to watch why?

Maybe he is a scout or coach from UNC. Isn't that what all you loony parents want?

Why is that loony? UNC Great academically, great lax. Everyone wants beat for their children...no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opening day in HS lax - how did it go? Any interesting scores? Story lines? A lot of big scoring?

Watch Newsday and girls and their parents load up those points against inferior competition. Who will be the first to put a 20 spot on a team like Copagiue. Stat padding and poor coaching

A Wheatley player put up 14 yesterday..

I heard that kid is one of the top kids in the country...needed every goal to win that tight game.

Yeah uncommitted 2019 coached by DK at Elevate. Tops in the country!

Don't be jealous!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not just score 14 goals but have to figure she shot another 5-10 times and missed?....joke....

Scoring 14 against any team is wrong. Coach & player should be ashamed of themselves. Did she have any assists? If not I’m sure her team really appreciated it!

Show me any team that has a kid score 14 and I will show you 11 other players and fans that are pissed off and rightfully so. It's a team game. If anyone forces 14 in, can you imagine how many missed shots and turnovers she had?

But I am sure she is going D1 and that's really all that matters to the player, mom and dad. Hard to root for players like this and that is terribly sad

Sport is BROKEN!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Show me any team that has a kid score 14 and I will show you 11 other players and fans that are pissed off and rightfully so. It's a team game. If anyone forces 14 in, can you imagine how many missed shots and turnovers she had?

But I am sure she is going D1 and that's really all that matters to the player, mom and dad. Hard to root for players like this and that is terribly sad

Sport is BROKEN!

I heard she was 14 for 14...a real sniper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not just score 14 goals but have to figure she shot another 5-10 times and missed?....joke....

Scoring 14 against any team is wrong. Coach & player should be ashamed of themselves. Did she have any assists? If not I’m sure her team really appreciated it!

Season stats 21 G 1 A the other players on the team don't even have to go to practice pass the ball to her and get out of the way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not just score 14 goals but have to figure she shot another 5-10 times and missed?....joke....

Scoring 14 against any team is wrong. Coach & player should be ashamed of themselves. Did she have any assists? If not I’m sure her team really appreciated it!

Season stats 21 G 1 A the other players on the team don't even have to go to practice pass the ball to her and get out of the way

Those are Cy Young numbers. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season stats 21 G 1 A the other players on the team don't even have to go to practice pass the ball to her and get out of the way

Yep, in my view 21 G and 1 A pretty much defines selfish play.

Is the school girls tournament worth it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the school girls tournament worth it

Worth what?

If uncommitted yes !

What's with the rumor that another YJ coach is moving to take over Wantagh next year?

[quote=Anonymous]What's with the rumor that another YJ coach is moving to take over Wantagh next year?

Its in the works

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's with the rumor that another YJ coach is moving to take over Wantagh next year?

Its in the works

Looking like a 5yr deal, hearing they are about 400k apart on the compensation though.

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's with the rumor that another YJ coach is moving to take over Wantagh next year?

Its in the works

Looking like a 5yr deal, hearing they are about 400k apart on the compensation though.

Sounds like they are about $75k away from each other. School district is holding firm on $6,000 per. Might have to sit out the off season workouts or stay where she is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Varsity Coaches tell newsday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC is way down this year.

Look for Long Beach, North Shore, Plainedge and Lynbrook to have solid seasons

Don't forget wheatley and carle place

Need to add Mineola to the list I guess since they handled Wheatley easily

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

Why , your daughter didn't make the list? Call the AD, like you have done in the past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

This could be the dumbest post I have seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

Who cares who selects the key players, you daughter didn't make it, maybe if you weren't such a distraction to the team she would be mentioned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

Not true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

Not true.

So it just means my little Shannon isn't good enough?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

Not true.

So it just means my little Shannon isn't good enough?

that's correct. and please go sit with your husband, away from the rest of us, we do not want to hear your negative comments. and how your daughter is not getting the ball enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

Not true.

So it just means my little Shannon isn't good enough?

No. Newsday is a rag. These lists along with the BS High School awards are "everybody gets a trophy". It stinks for kids from programs with a lot of talent because the coach can only pick a limited number. There are most certainly players from GC and the like who receive little or no HS recognition yet go on to have great college careers at solid D1 programs. There are girls who are named all county who couldn't make a top 50 D1 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know who submits the players to watch list to Newsday?

Coaches Select Key players to watch for each team.

But you usually have to be committed to playing in college or at least on that track. If another sport is your daughters primary sport. She wont get listed even if she should. Happens to lots of the multi sport girls

Not true.

So it just means my little Shannon isn't good enough?

that's correct. and please go sit with your husband, away from the rest of us, we do not want to hear your negative comments. and how your daughter is not getting the ball enough.

Or better yet, sit with the AD, you call him enough.

Seems like people are mixing up two different things. There is a list of LI Players to Watch (10 in total from Long Island) and then there is a Key Player on each team list which for Suffolk is close to 200 kids and for Nassau another almost 200 kids. Looks like the key players lists are simply given to Newsday by each coach. I think coaches submit a small number of names for kids that should be on the 10 Players to Watch list and Newsday chooses the final names based on the feedback they get. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like people are mixing up two different things. There is a list of LI Players to Watch (10 in total from Long Island) and then there is a Key Player on each team list which for Suffolk is close to 200 kids and for Nassau another almost 200 kids. Looks like the key players lists are simply given to Newsday by each coach. I think coaches submit a small number of names for kids that should be on the 10 Players to Watch list and Newsday chooses the final names based on the feedback they get. .

So if your school does not have a "Key Player" on the list, one can assume that the coach has a low opinion of the team. Or, it could simply mean that the coach is not truly committed to the program and does not care enough to submit names. Either way, if a team has no "Key Players", then that team is doomed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like people are mixing up two different things. There is a list of LI Players to Watch (10 in total from Long Island) and then there is a Key Player on each team list which for Suffolk is close to 200 kids and for Nassau another almost 200 kids. Looks like the key players lists are simply given to Newsday by each coach. I think coaches submit a small number of names for kids that should be on the 10 Players to Watch list and Newsday chooses the final names based on the feedback they get. .

So if your school does not have a "Key Player" on the list, one can assume that the coach has a low opinion of the team. Or, it could simply mean that the coach is not truly committed to the program and does not care enough to submit names. Either way, if a team has no "Key Players", then that team is doomed.

nobody is mixing up anything. we are talking about the KEY PLAYERS FOR EACH TEAM in Suffolk. Read the post above. nobody said anything about LI players to watch.

Does any one know of any girls that were left off the Key players in Suffolk List. Just give me a town please. no names

This weeks unsportsmanlike award goes to Half Hollow ,have 1 ballhog put up 9 points in a 15-0 beat down .So proud .The reason that team stinks is you have ball hog kids with disgusting coaching. The good news is their is plenty of lax left this week for some other program and player to embarrass themselves.

any final scores from today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like people are mixing up two different things. There is a list of LI Players to Watch (10 in total from Long Island) and then there is a Key Player on each team list which for Suffolk is close to 200 kids and for Nassau another almost 200 kids. Looks like the key players lists are simply given to Newsday by each coach. I think coaches submit a small number of names for kids that should be on the 10 Players to Watch list and Newsday chooses the final names based on the feedback they get. .

I take it your helpfulness is because your kid is on the shortlist. Thanks for clearing that up Mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does any one know of any girls that were left off the Key players in Suffolk List. Just give me a town please. no names

Unfortunately any town that has more than five strong players will have girls left off the list. Newsday is fake news anyway . I cancelled my subscription 25 years ago (I do check HS Football scores on line). I Refuse to check lacrosse stats. HS lax is all BS (with the exception of the few schools that have real coaches). Stats are meaningless because so many of the teams are so weak and many of the players are not athletic. If your daughter is a strong player at a school that has many strong players and was left off the list stay positive. Do not allow a HS coach to crush her confidence.

As a parent of a mid level Nassau school that usually gets their jerks kicked by GC, Manhasset, Wantagh those teams typically get short changed with player awards while we get out token few. Don't get me wrong its nice that our girls get awarded but many years the 2nd stringers on those other teams are better than most of our starters

Long Beach looking strong 2-0 leading the power division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Beach looking strong 2-0 leading the power division.

Except they lost by 7 to Set

And 4-3 with Wantagh not very impressive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does any one know of any girls that were left off the Key players in Suffolk List. Just give me a town please. no names

Unfortunately any town that has more than five strong players will have girls left off the list. Newsday is fake news anyway . I cancelled my subscription 25 years ago (I do check HS Football scores on line). I Refuse to check lacrosse stats. HS lax is all BS (with the exception of the few schools that have real coaches). Stats are meaningless because so many of the teams are so weak and many of the players are not athletic. If your daughter is a strong player at a school that has many strong players and was left off the list stay positive. Do not allow a HS coach to crush her confidence.

But what if a HS coach doesn't think any player on his team is worthy of a mention? What kind of message does that send to the players? It tells them that he has no faith in his squad to do anything this season. It tells them that he doesn't consider a single one of them a quality lacrosse player.

Check out the Manhasset article in Newsday today. Say what you want about the coach but she is better than most and she says she is running out 2 lines of attack because teams with solo or dual threats go nowhere come playoff time and she is right

Yeah - Mt. Sinai has really struggled running their offense through a few key kids only. One line of attack with multiple weapons sounds much smarter. Hard to believe there is not a drop off in ability after attacker #4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does any one know of any girls that were left off the Key players in Suffolk List. Just give me a town please. no names

Unfortunately any town that has more than five strong players will have girls left off the list. Newsday is fake news anyway . I cancelled my subscription 25 years ago (I do check HS Football scores on line). I Refuse to check lacrosse stats. HS lax is all BS (with the exception of the few schools that have real coaches). Stats are meaningless because so many of the teams are so weak and many of the players are not athletic. If your daughter is a strong player at a school that has many strong players and was left off the list stay positive. Do not allow a HS coach to crush her confidence.

But what if a HS coach doesn't think any player on his team is worthy of a mention? What kind of message does that send to the players? It tells them that he has no faith in his squad to do anything this season. It tells them that he doesn't consider a single one of them a quality lacrosse player.

If Newsday is Fake news, what is this site?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does any one know of any girls that were left off the Key players in Suffolk List. Just give me a town please. no names

Unfortunately any town that has more than five strong players will have girls left off the list. Newsday is fake news anyway . I cancelled my subscription 25 years ago (I do check HS Football scores on line). I Refuse to check lacrosse stats. HS lax is all BS (with the exception of the few schools that have real coaches). Stats are meaningless because so many of the teams are so weak and many of the players are not athletic. If your daughter is a strong player at a school that has many strong players and was left off the list stay positive. Do not allow a HS coach to crush her confidence.

But what if a HS coach doesn't think any player on his team is worthy of a mention? What kind of message does that send to the players? It tells them that he has no faith in his squad to do anything this season. It tells them that he doesn't consider a single one of them a quality lacrosse player.

Try this one on. A coach doesn't submit any names as key players because he feels he has 8 key players and doesn't want to leave a girl off the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does any one know of any girls that were left off the Key players in Suffolk List. Just give me a town please. no names

Unfortunately any town that has more than five strong players will have girls left off the list. Newsday is fake news anyway . I cancelled my subscription 25 years ago (I do check HS Football scores on line). I Refuse to check lacrosse stats. HS lax is all BS (with the exception of the few schools that have real coaches). Stats are meaningless because so many of the teams are so weak and many of the players are not athletic. If your daughter is a strong player at a school that has many strong players and was left off the list stay positive. Do not allow a HS coach to crush her confidence.

WB had several girls not mentioned. Coach plays favorites.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah - Mt. Sinai has really struggled running their offense through a few key kids only. One line of attack with multiple weapons sounds much smarter. Hard to believe there is not a drop off in ability after attacker #4.

Manhasset had 2 excellent attackers but now one post the injury. Massapequa dee really wasn't strong. They couldn't do much vs Mt Sinai during the scrimmage on Saturday. sounded like coach babble from their coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah - Mt. Sinai has really struggled running their offense through a few key kids only. One line of attack with multiple weapons sounds much smarter. Hard to believe there is not a drop off in ability after attacker #4.

Manhasset had 2 excellent attackers but now one post the injury. Massapequa dee really wasn't strong. They couldn't do much vs Mt Sinai during the scrimmage on Saturday. sounded like coach babble from their coach.

Yes, definitely coach babble. Far better to have no plan or set offense. Better to just let girls go to goal. That strategy is very effective especially when utilized when competing against well coached teams in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Stats are praised so much more than anything else. That's the problem with the sport. 1 or 2 goals isn't good enough for parents anymore have the kids shooting for 5, 10 even 14 goals a game. Its a beautiful game when girls share the ball but congrats to Sami.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Congrats to all the LI girls. I am sure they have all worked hard to get there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Great to see 2 conf V kids getting the credit they deserve, girls lax is really growing in the US...Maryland and UNC are very lucky to be getting these 2 awesome players.

When I see a mention of a defender having a great game, then something like this will have credibility...all article does is reinforce the "go to goal", get mine mentality.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Congrats to all the LI girls. I am sure they have all worked hard to get there.

Wish we could say the same for Will Cleveland...

[quote=Anonymous]When I see a mention of a defender having a great game, then something like this will have credibility...all article does is reinforce the "go to goal", get mine mentality.....

Defense is minimized in lacrosse so much that ground balls aren't even a stat that is tracked by Newsday only goals and assists.

Defense is minimalized only by the ignorant and uniformed. Relying on Newsday for any sort of lax info is a killer...except for parents of kids scoring 14 goals in a game...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When I see a mention of a defender having a great game, then something like this will have credibility...all article does is reinforce the "go to goal", get mine mentality.....

Defense is minimized in lacrosse so much that ground balls aren't even a stat that is tracked by Newsday only goals and assists.

***it would be nice if they would include that. At lease they count am assist as much as a goal

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When I see a mention of a defender having a great game, then something like this will have credibility...all article does is reinforce the "go to goal", get mine mentality.....

Defense is minimized in lacrosse so much that ground balls aren't even a stat that is tracked by Newsday only goals and assists.

***it would be nice if they would include that. At lease they count am assist as much as a goal

they do

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When I see a mention of a defender having a great game, then something like this will have credibility...all article does is reinforce the "go to goal", get mine mentality.....

Defense is minimized in lacrosse so much that ground balls aren't even a stat that is tracked by Newsday only goals and assists.

***it would be nice if they would include that. At lease they count am assist as much as a goal

It would be nice but the stats aren't right in college either, where they do keep track of ground balls and caused turnovers. It's better than nothing though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does any one know of any girls that were left off the Key players in Suffolk List. Just give me a town please. no names

Unfortunately any town that has more than five strong players will have girls left off the list. Newsday is fake news anyway . I cancelled my subscription 25 years ago (I do check HS Football scores on line). I Refuse to check lacrosse stats. HS lax is all BS (with the exception of the few schools that have real coaches). Stats are meaningless because so many of the teams are so weak and many of the players are not athletic. If your daughter is a strong player at a school that has many strong players and was left off the list stay positive. Do not allow a HS coach to crush her confidence.

WB had several girls not mentioned. Coach plays favorites.

WB doesn't have several players worth mentioning...

We have a few parents video taping our HS games because I would imagine their kids go to goal on the school team 100 times more than they do on their summer teams. Coach doesn't say a word.

What happened to CSH ? Losing to Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a few parents video taping our HS games because I would imagine their kids go to goal on the school team 100 times more than they do on their summer teams. Coach doesn't say a word.

Maybe there videotaping so they have memories of when their kid played in high school. Just like you videotape T-ball games or soccer games. Because before you know what these kids are in college and you miss these days as crazy as they are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Congrats to all the LI girls. I am sure they have all worked hard to get there.

Wish we could say the same for Will Cleveland...

Does Massapequa have injuries ? What happened to that lefty attacker committed to UNC, transfer ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to CSH ? Losing to Wantagh

They scored one less goal than Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to CSH ? Losing to Wantagh

They scored one less goal than Wantagh

Wantagh looking good now, since they got rid of the dead weight from 2016.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to CSH ? Losing to Wantagh

One goalie made some saves and one didn't, still no excuse CSH should beat that team by double digits

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Congrats to all the LI girls. I am sure they have all worked hard to get there.

Wish we could say the same for Will Cleveland...

Does Massapequa have injuries ? What happened to that lefty attacker committed to UNC, transfer ?

Yes, Sacred Heart Academy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

Congrats to all the LI girls. I am sure they have all worked hard to get there.

Wish we could say the same for Will Cleveland...

Does Massapequa have injuries ? What happened to that lefty attacker committed to UNC, transfer ?

Yes, Sacred Heart Academy

That might be the funniest reply I have ever seen in here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What happened to CSH ? Losing to Wantagh

One goalie made some saves and one didn't, still no excuse CSH should beat that team by double digits

CSH coaching lost the game

Who chooses the top 100? Is it newsday or the coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who chooses the top 100? Is it newsday or the coaches

Will Cleveland...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who chooses the top 100? Is it newsday or the coaches

Honestly my daughters on there and I have no clue

Now I’m hats funny.

Bunch of nonsense. Smithtown West, LB , HHH, HT,PM and OLM have kids on list that coaches just gave names to newsday to fill list. No way belong !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who chooses the top 100? Is it newsday or the coaches

Honestly my daughters on there and I have no clue

Newsday , Coaches and parents who call Newsday. no joke, I know parents who have called.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who chooses the top 100? Is it newsday or the coaches

Honestly my daughters on there and I have no clue

Newsday , Coaches and parents who call Newsday. no joke, I know parents who have called.

I believe parents do call Newsday but I do not think they have an impact on anything.

The HS coached give the names to Newsday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero [ChillLaxin] and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one [ChillLaxin] as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

THIS MAKES ME INSANE! Weak team, weak division and everyone heaps praise for one dimensional selfish play. That's the problem with the sport. 1 or 2 goals isn't good enough for parents anymore have the kids shooting for 5, 10 even 14 goals a game. Its a beautiful game when girls share the ball!

Newsday isn't the only one posting and condoning this behavior. The Team Elevate club owner has reposted this multiple times on their social media. I guess he encourages the girls on that club that scoring massive amounts of goals is most important. Shoot away girls!

Speaking of the Elevate owner, why does he feel the need to attend high school games at schools like Syosset and then take pictures with the girls and post them on social media. He is worse than most 14 year olds! His kids don't even play lacrosse anymore and I know the parents of the kids on those high school teams are embarrassed when he shows up to the games and makes himself the center of attention. Why does he feel the need to do that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero [ChillLaxin] and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one [ChillLaxin] as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

THIS MAKES ME INSANE! Weak team, weak division and everyone heaps praise for one dimensional selfish play. That's the problem with the sport. 1 or 2 goals isn't good enough for parents anymore have the kids shooting for 5, 10 even 14 goals a game. Its a beautiful game when girls share the ball!

Newsday isn't the only one posting and condoning this behavior. The Team Elevate club owner has reposted this multiple times on their social media. I guess he encourages the girls on that club that scoring massive amounts of goals is most important. Shoot away girls!

Speaking of the Elevate owner, why does he feel the need to attend high school games at schools like Syosset and then take pictures with the girls and post them on social media. He is worse than most 14 year olds! His kids don't even play lacrosse anymore and I know the parents of the kids on those high school teams are embarrassed when he shows up to the games and makes himself the center of attention. Why does he feel the need to do that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero [ChillLaxin] and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one [ChillLaxin] as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

THIS MAKES ME INSANE! Weak team, weak division and everyone heaps praise for one dimensional selfish play. That's the problem with the sport. 1 or 2 goals isn't good enough for parents anymore have the kids shooting for 5, 10 even 14 goals a game. Its a beautiful game when girls share the ball!

Newsday isn't the only one posting and condoning this behavior. The Team Elevate club owner has reposted this multiple times on their social media. I guess he encourages the girls on that club that scoring massive amounts of goals is most important. Shoot away girls!

Speaking of the Elevate owner, why does he feel the need to attend high school games at schools like Syosset and then take pictures with the girls and post them on social media. He is worse than most 14 year olds! His kids don't even play lacrosse anymore and I know the parents of the kids on those high school teams are embarrassed when he shows up to the games and makes himself the center of attention. Why does he feel the need to do that?

Why don't you ask him in person?

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Since you gave your opinion.....please back up your opinion. Maybe......provide facts that provide the basis for your opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Since you gave your opinion.....please back up your opinion. Maybe......provide facts that provide the basis for your opinion.

2014/15 2 loses to public schools...2015/16 3 loses to public schools...2016/17 3 loses to public schools + loss to SHA...thats as far as newday went back...and earlier than 2014/15 st ants was beating most public schools...how's them facts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Since you gave your opinion.....please back up your opinion. Maybe......provide facts that provide the basis for your opinion.

2014/15 2 loses to public schools...2015/16 3 loses to public schools...2016/17 3 loses to public schools + loss to SHA...thats as far as newday went back...and earlier than 2014/15 st ants was beating most public schools...how's them facts?

Do you have children who attend St Anthony's? If not, why do you care about their team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Since you gave your opinion.....please back up your opinion. Maybe......provide facts that provide the basis for your opinion.

2014/15 2 loses to public schools...2015/16 3 loses to public schools...2016/17 3 loses to public schools + loss to SHA...thats as far as newday went back...and earlier than 2014/15 st ants was beating most public schools...how's them facts?

Do you have children who attend St Anthony's? If not, why do you care about their team?

Ok, let me get this straight, you ask for facts, i give them to you backing up other posters comments st ants not as good as they use to be...and thats what your comeback is? next time, dont ask for the facts...very weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Since you gave your opinion.....please back up your opinion. Maybe......provide facts that provide the basis for your opinion.

2014/15 2 loses to public schools...2015/16 3 loses to public schools...2016/17 3 loses to public schools + loss to SHA...thats as far as newday went back...and earlier than 2014/15 st ants was beating most public schools...how's them facts?

Do you have children who attend St Anthony's? If not, why do you care about their team?

Ok, let me get this straight, you ask for facts, i give them to you backing up other posters comments st ants not as good as they use to be...and thats what your comeback is? next time, dont ask for the facts...very weak.

laxpower.com has the national and local rankings and records for as far back as you would like to go - National Poll 2011 SA #3, 2012 SA #3, 2013 SA #4, 2014 SA #28, 2015 SA #31, 2016 not ranked in top 36 teams listed. I'm not a big believer in polls, but these are after the season is over and the only thing out there and it does show how the program has fallen. Big drop off in coaching and talent in the last several years, Coach is in over her head, had big shoes to fill, but rolling the ball out there and telling her studs to get it done isn't working. During those early runs they would rarely lose a game and then only to McDonogh, Bryn Mawr and Vero Beach, since then SHA, GC, Sett, Summit, Mt Sinai, CSH...

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Since you gave your opinion.....please back up your opinion. Maybe......provide facts that provide the basis for your opinion.

2014/15 2 loses to public schools...2015/16 3 loses to public schools...2016/17 3 loses to public schools + loss to SHA...thats as far as newday went back...and earlier than 2014/15 st ants was beating most public schools...how's them facts?

Do you have children who attend St Anthony's? If not, why do you care about their team?

Ok, let me get this straight, you ask for facts, i give them to you backing up other posters comments st ants not as good as they use to be...and thats what your comeback is? next time, dont ask for the facts...very weak.

Why do you [ChillLaxin] you are responding to only one person? If you do not have a child at St A's your interest in their program is strange.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero [ChillLaxin] and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one [ChillLaxin] as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

THIS MAKES ME INSANE! Weak team, weak division and everyone heaps praise for one dimensional selfish play. That's the problem with the sport. 1 or 2 goals isn't good enough for parents anymore have the kids shooting for 5, 10 even 14 goals a game. Its a beautiful game when girls share the ball!

Newsday isn't the only one posting and condoning this behavior. The Team Elevate club owner has reposted this multiple times on their social media. I guess he encourages the girls on that club that scoring massive amounts of goals is most important. Shoot away girls!

Speaking of the Elevate owner, why does he feel the need to attend high school games at schools like Syosset and then take pictures with the girls and post them on social media. He is worse than most 14 year olds! His kids don't even play lacrosse anymore and I know the parents of the kids on those high school teams are embarrassed when he shows up to the games and makes himself the center of attention. Why does he feel the need to do that?

Almost as creepy as the MS/YJ coach calling his former players his "daughters" when he brags about them on Twitter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]How’s St.Ants team doing so far?

SA glory days are long over, they're another good team in a sport loaded with bad teams, but nothing like they were years ago

Since you gave your opinion.....please back up your opinion. Maybe......provide facts that provide the basis for your opinion.

2014/15 2 loses to public schools...2015/16 3 loses to public schools...2016/17 3 loses to public schools + loss to SHA...thats as far as newday went back...and earlier than 2014/15 st ants was beating most public schools...how's them facts?

Do you have children who attend St Anthony's? If not, why do you care about their team?

Ok, let me get this straight, you ask for facts, i give them to you backing up other posters comments st ants not as good as they use to be...and thats what your comeback is? next time, dont ask for the facts...very weak.

Why do you [ChillLaxin] you are responding to only one person? If you do not have a child at St A's your interest in their program is strange.
[/quote

Strange? its a lax forum...if you think posters only comment on teams with their kids on it...you need to regroup.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

its won...why don't you name those teams in their league...do yourself a favor and don't...you'll just embarrass yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

its won...why don't you name those teams in their league...do yourself a favor and don't...you'll just embarrass yourself.

Your green eyed jealousy is really showing. Guess St A beat your daughters public school team. Stop your crying and worry about your kids team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

its won...why don't you name those teams in their league...do yourself a favor and don't...you'll just embarrass yourself.

Your green eyed jealousy is really showing. Guess St A beat your daughters public school team. Stop your crying and worry about your kids team.

Impossible, since st ants hasn't beat any public schools lately...its ok,your kids there and your public school team is better and you cant handle it...i can see why the parents in your hometown are really happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

its won...why don't you name those teams in their league...do yourself a favor and don't...you'll just embarrass yourself.

Your green eyed jealousy is really showing. Guess St A beat your daughters public school team. Stop your crying and worry about your kids team.

Sensitive much?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

its won...why don't you name those teams in their league...do yourself a favor and don't...you'll just embarrass yourself.

Your green eyed jealousy is really showing. Guess St A beat your daughters public school team. Stop your crying and worry about your kids team.

Sensitive much?

St. Anthonys nothing like they once were, ordinary at best, wouldn't win a division title in Long Island this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

its won...why don't you name those teams in their league...do yourself a favor and don't...you'll just embarrass yourself.

Your green eyed jealousy is really showing. Guess St A beat your daughters public school team. Stop your crying and worry about your kids team.

Sensitive much?

St. Anthonys nothing like they once were, ordinary at best, wouldn't win a division title in Long Island this year.

Here we go again, does your kid play for st antonys? if not, you cant post

I have a daughter that plays in the Catholic league and 1 that has graduated. The poster is right St. Anthony's is not what they used to be, in fact they may not even be the best in their league this year. With that said they still are a good team that could compete with any of the publics on LI. I guess we will start to know more tomorrow when they play CSH

Carle Place would beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carle Place would beat them.

I see what you did there!

Any good girl games tomorrow
I know Pequa vs WI
any others

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero [ChillLaxin] and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one [ChillLaxin] as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

THIS MAKES ME INSANE! Weak team, weak division and everyone heaps praise for one dimensional selfish play. That's the problem with the sport. 1 or 2 goals isn't good enough for parents anymore have the kids shooting for 5, 10 even 14 goals a game. Its a beautiful game when girls share the ball!

Newsday isn't the only one posting and condoning this behavior. The Team Elevate club owner has reposted this multiple times on their social media. I guess he encourages the girls on that club that scoring massive amounts of goals is most important. Shoot away girls!

Speaking of the Elevate owner, why does he feel the need to attend high school games at schools like Syosset and then take pictures with the girls and post them on social media. He is worse than most 14 year olds! His kids don't even play lacrosse anymore and I know the parents of the kids on those high school teams are embarrassed when he shows up to the games and makes himself the center of attention. Why does he feel the need to do that?

Almost as creepy as the MS/YJ coach calling his former players his "daughters" when he brags about them on Twitter.

That really is creepy. WHY?

Did CSH play St A's today? If so, how was it? Don't see anything in Newsday.

Very good game. St Stephens st A 9. Glenelg 8. Two top teams playing great lacrosse.

Congratulations to the 5 out 11 girls from Long Island on the first wave of UA All American game. What a great accomplishment and seems UA got it right!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any good girl games tomorrow
I know Pequa vs WI
any others

that's a good game, are you for real . Mass will blow them out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any good girl games tomorrow
I know Pequa vs WI
any others

that's a good game, are you for real . Mass will blow them out.

Baiting a hook

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any good girl games tomorrow
I know Pequa vs WI
any others

Sw vs commack should be good

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

Port with a big first win of the season today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port with a big first win of the season today

Who did Port beat today- Manhasset, North Shore, Cold Spring, Garden City, Syosset?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

It's Suffolk County PAL allover again, play with whoever you want to, don't let the fact that you live in a different school district have any impact on what team you're playing on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Have never seen a player put up 14 goals in a game and the fact that she had zero assists and the game was one sided is an absolute embarrassment.

Looks like Newsday isn't the only paper covering the 14 goals from Wheatley!

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...chool-girls-players-of-the-week-march-27

Northeast

Sami Rothstein, Wheatley (N.Y.)

Rothstein, a junior, totaled 21 goals and one assist as Wheatley opened the season with two wins. In total, Wheatley scored 29 goals in the two games, so Rothstein has scored 72 percent of her team's goals.

Also notable: Caitlin Cook, Garden City (N.Y.); Jackie Gatti, Massapequa (N.Y.); Ariella Lerner, Great Neck North (N.Y.)

— Will Cleveland

THIS MAKES ME INSANE! Weak team, weak division and everyone heaps praise for one dimensional selfish play. That's the problem with the sport. 1 or 2 goals isn't good enough for parents anymore have the kids shooting for 5, 10 even 14 goals a game. Its a beautiful game when girls share the ball!

Newsday isn't the only one posting and condoning this behavior. The Team Elevate club owner has reposted this multiple times on their social media. I guess he encourages the girls on that club that scoring massive amounts of goals is most important. Shoot away girls!

Speaking of the Elevate owner, why does he feel the need to attend high school games at schools like Syosset and then take pictures with the girls and post them on social media. He is worse than most 14 year olds! His kids don't even play lacrosse anymore and I know the parents of the kids on those high school teams are embarrassed when he shows up to the games and makes himself the center of attention. Why does he feel the need to do that?

Anyone who knows the Elevate owner knows that he is doing that for the $$$$$'s. He does all he can do to market current and former players even though most times he is grasping at straws. If you look at the success of the Elevate girls in college compared to TG, YJ and Liberty girls it pales in comparison. His marketing tactics are just out of desperation to make $$$$.

Elevate owner also travels w/ folding table so he can sell apparel and swag to fans....

As far as running a club he is no different than all the others. All in it for the $$ and promote all past and current players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port with a big first win of the season today

Who did Port beat today- Manhasset, North Shore, Cold Spring, Garden City, Syosset?

who won CSH/St Ants?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Keep that on the down low...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she
had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Keep that on the down low...

The best thing would be if section xi looked into it and WHB had to forfeit all of their games as the parents and administrators know that it’s a farce .In the end no one will do anything about it as they are a mediocre team. The only impact it will have is some player on WHB that would have gotten a post season award but now will not because the coach and administration is too afraid to push back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Fellow commit and cousin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Fellow commit and cousin.

Two BC commits on one team? They have to be the favorites to get off the island, no?

who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

I’m pretty sure not one girl has scored 14 with no assists on them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Fellow commit and cousin.

Two BC commits on one team? They have to be the favorites to get off the island, no?

The E Hampton kid is better then her cousin in Westhampton. They are going to win it all. Does the guest house count as residency?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Fellow commit and cousin.

Two BC commits on one team? They have to be the favorites to get off the island, no?

The E Hampton kid is better then her cousin in Westhampton. They are going to win it all. Does the guest house count as residency?

She is older though right? Some really tight games yesterday in suffolk.

Singling our a HS girls lacrosse player on a public forum? Really mature! Luckily there are laws pertaining to cyber bullying of minors.

Biggest surprises so far in Conference 1 and 2?

Conference 1 Win Loss
Manhasset 4 1
Syosset 4 0
Cold Spring Harbor 3 1
Massapequa 3 1
Garden City 2 1
Long Beach 2 2
North Shore 1 2
Wantagh 1 2
Oceanside 1 3
Port Washington 1 3
Conference II Win Loss
Seaford 3 0
South Side 2 0
Oyster Bay 3 0
Farmingdale 1 1
Locust Valley 2 0
Carle Place 2 1
Calhoun 2 2
Division 1 1
Lynbrook 0 2
Plainedge 0 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Singling our a HS girls lacrosse player on a public forum? Really mature! Luckily there are laws pertaining to cyber bullying of minors.

Yeah, that's whats happening...so soft

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Singling our a HS girls lacrosse player on a public forum? Really mature! Luckily there are laws pertaining to cyber bullying of minors.

Yeah, that's whats happening...so soft

No bullying going on, simply pointing out that Westhampton and the girl(her family) are cheating. The girl does not reside at the address she claims to be living. So in essence the family is defrauding the WHB school district. The girl is enrolled in WHB HS so there is little Section XI could do, however the district might be interested in investigating the residency of this player, ayys families who live outside the district pay (or their home district pays ie: East Moriches School District pays for its residents to attend WHB Schools).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Singling our a HS girls lacrosse player on a public forum? Really mature! Luckily there are laws pertaining to cyber bullying of minors.

Yeah, that's whats happening...so soft

No bullying going on, simply pointing out that Westhampton and the girl(her family) are cheating. The girl does not reside at the address she claims to be living. So in essence the family is defrauding the WHB school district. The girl is enrolled in WHB HS so there is little Section XI could do, however the district might be interested in investigating the residency of this player, ayys families who live outside the district pay (or their home district pays ie: East Moriches School District pays for its residents to attend WHB Schools).

It happens all the time.. I've family who teach in one of the western towns in Nassau.. half the kids are from Queens the district knows..and they do very little to stop it, especially if the kids have good character grades etc.. Its not the crime of the century..let them have fun, they're only kids for a short time..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Singling our a HS girls lacrosse player on a public forum? Really mature! Luckily there are laws pertaining to cyber bullying of minors.

Yeah, that's whats happening...so soft

No bullying going on, simply pointing out that Westhampton and the girl(her family) are cheating. The girl does not reside at the address she claims to be living. So in essence the family is defrauding the WHB school district. The girl is enrolled in WHB HS so there is little Section XI could do, however the district might be interested in investigating the residency of this player, ayys families who live outside the district pay (or their home district pays ie: East Moriches School District pays for its residents to attend WHB Schools).

It happens all the time.. I've family who teach in one of the western towns in Nassau.. half the kids are from Queens the district knows..and they do very little to stop it, especially if the kids have good character grades etc.. Its not the crime of the century..let them have fun, they're only kids for a short time..

Then the residents of those western Nassau towns are stunads. They (the tax payers) are funding the education of those students who don't reside in the district. At about $20K per kid that can turn into a lot of money....especially when most school district employees are over paid to begin with.

It actually is a big deal otherwise every kid on LI would be picking the best district in their surrounding area. On LI you buy a school district when you purchase a home. If you don't like the district you go the private or catholic route.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor Hampton bays. But great way to pad your stats so you can get on that leaderboard

Honestly it is a tough situation for HBays, their top player from lat year is illegally attending and playing for Westhampton (fake/doesn't live at the address she is using) and they struggle as it is, but I looked at Newsday and saw that against Harborfields there were 10 different girls who scored, Kings park had 7 different girls score, and Babylon had 7 different scorers. So I doubt there was stat padding as those team probably could of scored much more. The Babylon top performer had 3G and 3A against HBays, still less that the 7 she had against EI in a loss and she was her teams top scorer in a with 5 points when the team scored 6 against ESM. So it looks like she did throttle it back in the Hampton Bays game. Didn't see anyone really padding stats. It happens, but I think so far you are wrong about people padding stats against Hbays.

The player that left her school that now plays for Westhampton was on East Hampton, not Hampton Bays. She now plays with her fellow BC commit. No knowledge if the move is fake like you say.....but does seem a bit fishy.

Fellow commit and cousin.

Two BC commits on one team? They have to be the favorites to get off the island, no?

The E Hampton kid is better then her cousin in Westhampton. They are going to win it all. Does the guest house count as residency?

Not even close, won't see the field at BC, it was part of the deal to get the other one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It actually is a big deal otherwise every kid on LI would be picking the best district in their surrounding area. On LI you buy a school district when you purchase a home. If you don't like the district you go the private or catholic route.

I want my kid to play at Mt InSinai. Anyone have a pool house to rent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It actually is a big deal otherwise every kid on LI would be picking the best district in their surrounding area. On LI you buy a school district when you purchase a home. If you don't like the district you go the private or catholic route.

I want my kid to play at Mt InSinai. Anyone have a pool house to rent?

Maybe if you spent more time worrying about your own kid they would be as successful as those two girls whom are sweethearts and excellent lacrosse players!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

Just watched Bayshore vs Huntington, what is up with Bayshore coach, looks like she has something wrong with her. Attitude problem or something, but her movements and faces she seemed like she is a little off. Probably why she is with her third school in 3 years. Team looked pretty good against Huntington though.

Any surprises in the standings for teams in the early season in Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Singling our a HS girls lacrosse player on a public forum? Really mature! Luckily there are laws pertaining to cyber bullying of minors.

About as mature as using a fake address to play HS sports...

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

Looking to rent a beach bungalow in Rocky Point. Need to be a part of History in that town, new Sheriff in town made a great decision in putting faith in a Dad !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watched Bayshore vs Huntington, what is up with Bayshore coach, looks like she has something wrong with her. Attitude problem or something, but her movements and faces she seemed like she is a little off. Probably why she is with her third school in 3 years. Team looked pretty good against Huntington though.

Bayshore is in for a long season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

Give him the job, how much worse could he do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

Most towns have this problem. Wish these clowns would just shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.

Wantagh is always above average and on the edge of winning big. There are tons of schools especially in lacrosse that don't ever come close. If GC, Manhasset CSH are the benchmark for consistency, Wantagh is in the next grouping

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.[

Anymore? Wantagh won the County Championship beating CSH last season.

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

The Sausage King of Chicago

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

The Sausage King of Chicago

Dr. Abe Froman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

The Sausage King of Chicago

Dr. Abe Froman

All things I've heard is that if he were coaching them, they would be close to if not undefeated. That teacher/coach thing needs to go away. The coaches aren't qualified...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

The Sausage King of Chicago

Dr. Abe Froman

All things I've heard is that if he were coaching them, they would be close to if not undefeated. That teacher/coach thing needs to go away. The coaches aren't qualified...

Its no bargain for the rest of us who have certain unqualified summer coaches. At least teachers don't have agendas they are just babysitters getting a paycheck

GM. Truth be told are there any qualify coaches here on the Island? Let’s be clear “Quality” “Qualifications” and how does one go about finding Him/Her. Dad coaches are everywhere calling plays from the skybox, and coaches are intimidated to put an end to it.

What happen to ESM this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.[

Anymore? Wantagh won the County Championship beating CSH last season.

Good matchup this week Wantagh vs. Massapequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

TG has some completely delusional parents who think they know the fame and only cheer for their own kids with their individual instructions to their kids via the pet names. It’s comical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

The Sausage King of Chicago

Dr. Abe Froman

All things I've heard is that if he were coaching them, they would be close to if not undefeated. That teacher/coach thing needs to go away. The coaches aren't qualified...

Please , he has never played lacrosse nor been successful coaching anything yet he would have this untalented group undefeated. Maybe if the players listened to their coach instead of him they would be better. Riverhead going to have to put up big numbers against the likes of Brentwood if they are going to post all over social media about all the records they have broken .

[quote=Anonymous]TG has some completely delusional parents who think they know the fame and only cheer for their own kids with their individual instructions to their kids via the pet names. It’s comical.

YJ parents are completely different they believe in team lacrosse, sharing the ball and having a selfless attitude when playing in games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]TG has some completely delusional parents who think they know the fame and only cheer for their own kids with their individual instructions to their kids via the pet names. It’s comical.

YJ parents are completely different they believe in team lacrosse, sharing the ball and having a selfless attitude when playing in games.

I just choked on my lunch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]TG has some completely delusional parents who think they know the fame and only cheer for their own kids with their individual instructions to their kids via the pet names. It’s comical.

YJ parents are completely different they believe in team lacrosse, sharing the ball and having a selfless attitude when playing in games.

Bwahahah. Value the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]TG has some completely delusional parents who think they know the fame and only cheer for their own kids with their individual instructions to their kids via the pet names. It’s comical.

YJ parents are completely different they believe in team lacrosse, sharing the ball and having a selfless attitude when playing in games.

Selfless?? Lol

Cheering for other kids (in addition to your own) during HS games or travel tournaments is the absolute exception....most folks would rather eat glass than find it in themselves to cheer for another boy/girls good deeds on field...TOXIC

I am in GC with a 1st grade girl who begged me to do medusa lax program so she can do something with her classmates.. I caved and ended up on this site while searching the web to find out more about the sport... This is her first experience with the sport and I sincerely hope that these antics are not as prevalent at this age group as they are described in these pages. I mean they are little kids...Some of this stuff is straight out of a movie...

Of course you felt you needed to scold us and reply to this forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am in GC with a 1st grade girl who begged me to do medusa lax program so she can do something with her classmates.. I caved and ended up on this site while searching the web to find out more about the sport... This is her first experience with the sport and I sincerely hope that these antics are not as prevalent at this age group as they are described in these pages. I mean they are little kids...Some of this stuff is straight out of a movie...

The GC first grade is by far the weakest on long island! our town have been destroying them for years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am in GC with a 1st grade girl who begged me to do medusa lax program so she can do something with her classmates.. I caved and ended up on this site while searching the web to find out more about the sport... This is her first experience with the sport and I sincerely hope that these antics are not as prevalent at this age group as they are described in these pages. I mean they are little kids...Some of this stuff is straight out of a movie...

The GC first grade is by far the weakest on long island! our town have been destroying them for years.

bhahahahahahaha...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am in GC with a 1st grade girl who begged me to do medusa lax program so she can do something with her classmates.. I caved and ended up on this site while searching the web to find out more about the sport... This is her first experience with the sport and I sincerely hope that these antics are not as prevalent at this age group as they are described in these pages. I mean they are little kids...Some of this stuff is straight out of a movie...

The GC first grade is by far the weakest on long island! our town have been destroying them for years.

How good can they be they have zero D1 recruits

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am in GC with a 1st grade girl who begged me to do medusa lax program so she can do something with her classmates.. I caved and ended up on this site while searching the web to find out more about the sport... This is her first experience with the sport and I sincerely hope that these antics are not as prevalent at this age group as they are described in these pages. I mean they are little kids...Some of this stuff is straight out of a movie...

Girls lax is the most toxic me first sport with the absolute worst me first parents. GC is better than most because you have a youth program that shares the ball better than a lot of towns and most GC families are about education 1st and sport 2nd which is refreshing. If you can influence your daughter at all tell her to pick any other sport and fast. Your welcome the father of 4 lax players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]TG has some completely delusional parents who think they know the fame and only cheer for their own kids with their individual instructions to their kids via the pet names. It’s comical.

YJ parents are completely different they believe in team lacrosse, sharing the ball and having a selfless attitude when playing in games.

Selfless?? Lol

hope that was a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

The Sausage King of Chicago

Dr. Abe Froman

All things I've heard is that if he were coaching them, they would be close to if not undefeated. That teacher/coach thing needs to go away. The coaches aren't qualified...

Please , he has never played lacrosse nor been successful coaching anything yet he would have this untalented group undefeated. Maybe if the players listened to their coach instead of him they would be better. Riverhead going to have to put up big numbers against the likes of Brentwood if they are going to post all over social media about all the records they have broken .

Riverhead ? Really. Where is that armpit town? They will never win anything with that group they have. Come-on-man be serious.. Sausage family isn't that good, and the father has to shut up. The officials are getting pissed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

The loss had nothing to do with Top Guns!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

The loss had nothing to do with Top Guns!

But the win did!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the riverhead machine keeps rolling

It’s not easy to coach a team that has a dad coaching from the stands.

The Sausage King of Chicago

Dr. Abe Froman

All things I've heard is that if he were coaching them, they would be close to if not undefeated. That teacher/coach thing needs to go away. The coaches aren't qualified...

Better start listening to him or he will defect to Westhampton, I hear there's still room at the HS dorm they're running over there and they could use a couple more players to put them over the top

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

I don't know what game you were at. Not much stalling going on. ESM had a terrible game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

I don't know what game you were at. Not much stalling going on. ESM had a terrible game.

Where oh where were the superstars that came up and won states as 8th graders. I guess ESM really misses the class of 2017. They were the real statrs

HS and shot clock??..not a chance...refs are terrible (in general already)..could you imagine them being in charge of when a shot clock would kick in on a possession?....they cant get basic calls right as is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

I don't know what game you were at. Not much stalling going on. ESM had a terrible game.

Where oh where were the superstars that came up and won states as 8th graders. I guess ESM really misses the class of 2017. They were the real statrs

Hmm wonder who this could be?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

New assistant coach at West Bab, that is his style.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

I don't know what game you were at. Not much stalling going on. ESM had a terrible game.

Where oh where were the superstars that came up and won states as 8th graders. I guess ESM really misses the class of 2017. They were the real statrs

ESM super star got face guarded by West Babs best player and got Shut down. 0 points.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

1 county championship, that's it, and got blown out by ESM in LI championship;.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

1 county championship, that's it, and got blown out by ESM in LI championship;.

Blown out, what game were you watching?

How does your high school evaluate girls at tryouts?

Sounds like someone doesn't like the ESM kid or maybe just jealous?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

1 county championship, that's it, and got blown out by ESM in LI championship;.

Actually...2 county championships in the past 3 years, plus most of those years they played in the toughest division in the State, you know the one with GC and Manhasset. Again, Wantagh wins a lot of championships in numerous sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

New assistant coach at West Bab, that is his style.

What happened to Coach Smith? why was he let go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What happen to ESM this weekend?

TOP GUNS !

How did that happen. WB over ESM. Anyone there ?

Old fashion lacrosse - get a lead and stall, stall, stall - HS needs to get shot clock, most games are incredibly painful to watch without it and this was certainly one

New assistant coach at West Bab, that is his style.

What happened to Coach Smith? why was he let go?

His contract demands were too high

Imagine some stunad parents with a shot clock,, don't know if they can even count that high.

He was let go because he isn't a certified coach for high school. You know they actually need to be certified and only thing he is certified at is being an stunad like half of the parents out there and probably every parent on this site who attacks high school children because of jealousy

Nice to see Sinai has caught the unsportsmanlike bug, sorry but a true AA does not need to put up ball hog numbers in a blowout. I could be wrong but dont remember them doing this nonsense in the past. Hey AA maybe get your head up and make a pass.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

1 county championship, that's it, and got blown out by ESM in LI championship;.

Actually...2 county championships in the past 3 years, plus most of those years they played in the toughest division in the State, you know the one with GC and Manhasset. Again, Wantagh wins a lot of championships in numerous sports.

Well certainly not this year, CSH win looks like a real fluke when you see them lose 11-2 to pequa and pequa's best player didn't even play in the game

does west islip have a chance against north port

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

Word is they embarrassed themselves in DC over the break, lost by double digits and the game wasn't as close as the score - when was the last time that happened? Glory days are indeed over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice to see Sinai has caught the unsportsmanlike bug, sorry but a true AA does not need to put up ball hog numbers in a blowout. I could be wrong but dont remember them doing this nonsense in the past. Hey AA maybe get your head up and make a pass.

How about Babylon girl putting up 8 points in 15-2 blowout of Port Jefferson. That game must have been over in the first 10 minutes. Then you have East Islip duo putting up 7 points a game against dreadful competition. Both Babylon and EI should get some other kids involved in blowout games. Coaches and parents should be embarrassed.

Does anyone know if St Ants has played a game yet?? Nothing has been reported anywhere. If not, that's a strange start for them. They would have usually played some pretty decent competition by now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does your high school evaluate girls at tryouts?

They take the prettiest girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does west islip have a chance against north port

*****OF COURSE THEY DO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know if St Ants has played a game yet?? Nothing has been reported anywhere. If not, that's a strange start for them. They would have usually played some pretty decent competition by now.

I'm sure if you go to the schools website and look in the athletics section you will get your answer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

1 county championship, that's it, and got blown out by ESM in LI championship;.

Blown out, what game were you watching?

Hey Mr. Wantagh..what about 2016 county championship game, when they choked against Manhassett in last seconds.

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

1 county championship, that's it, and got blown out by ESM in LI championship;.

Blown out, what game were you watching?

Hey Mr. Wantagh..what about 2016 county championship game, when they choked against Manhassett in last seconds.

Don't know if choked is the proper term

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Nice to see Sinai has caught the unsportsmanlike bug, sorry but a true AA does not need to put up ball hog numbers in a blowout. I could be wrong but dont remember them doing this nonsense in the past. Hey AA maybe get your head up and make a pass.

How about Babylon in a15-2 blowout of Port Jefferson. That game must have been over in the first 10 minutes.

Please, with EI, that’s the SL way. I’ve never seen a coach put in so many invisible assists in my life. There have been games where he’s put down an assist for every goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Maybe Wantagh will return to a Baseball/Softball town. (Always has been a baseball town for boys.)

In the past few years they have won county championships in girls lax, state champs in baseball and wrestling, and LI champs in football.

Agreed...I doubt the folks in Wantagh are worried, they win a lot of championships.

1 county championship, that's it, and got blown out by ESM in LI championship;.

Absolutely that 11-10 blow out was a very embarrassing loss for Wantagh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

The good coaches will use the eye test. The girls who dominate the play of the game are not always the ones putting up big numbers, especially in those blowout games. I can tell you right now the very worst girls on my daughters team are very capable of scoring 5-6 goals in those blowout games, and sadly often do. Most of the really good players would be embarrassed to do so and self regulate their own goal scoring. Why self regulate? Because the parents raised them correctly and they know better even when the coach doesn’t stop that crap. Stats in HS are a complete joke, go watch the tough games and you will Spot the 3-4 kids on the field who will earn All County even before a single goal is scored.

Hoping Port beats Manhasset again this year. That was fun last year.

They also won by double digits. Did you forget that?
Had a bad game, then had a good game.

SA played LBeach, double digit win.
CSH game cancelled at last minute due to weather.
Lost one preseason game v MD team in DC
Won one preseason game v NC team in DC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course you felt you needed to scold us and reply to this forum.

No worries GC dad... these scenes you read of only happen out east.. have you seen the locations mentioned.. ESM, Mt Sinai, East Islip, Riverhead...

Nassau keeps it classy.. you should have no worries my good sir =)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA played LBeach, double digit win.
CSH game cancelled at last minute due to weather.
Lost one preseason game v MD team in DC
Won one preseason game v NC team in DC

Preseason?? You mean regular scheduled non-league games. They lost by 10 in DC, blew out a North Carolina team
Beat Long Beach by 6, that is not a double digit win, rather they doubled them up 11-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at
a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

The good coaches will use the eye test. The girls who dominate the play of the game are not always the ones putting up big numbers, especially in those blowout games. I can tell you right now the very worst girls on my daughters team are very capable of scoring 5-6 goals in those blowout games, and sadly often do. Most of the really good players would be embarrassed to do so and self regulate their own goal scoring. Why self regulate? Because the parents raised them correctly and they know better even when the coach doesn’t stop that crap. Stats in HS are a complete joke, go watch the tough games and you will Spot the 3-4 kids on the field who will earn All County even before a single goal is scored.

First off many coaches keep a good feeder in even mismatched games to spread the ball otherwise it can become a mess and to disparage kids for essentially passing the ball is ridiculous. Your concept of spotting the all county players is ill informed at best , all county selections are purely based on how your team finishes and who your coach selects .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

The good coaches will use the eye test. The girls who dominate the play of the game are not always the ones putting up big numbers, especially in those blowout games. I can tell you right now the very worst girls on my daughters team are very capable of scoring 5-6 goals in those blowout games, and sadly often do. Most of the really good players would be embarrassed to do so and self regulate their own goal scoring. Why self regulate? Because the parents raised them correctly and they know better even when the coach doesn’t stop that crap. Stats in HS are a complete joke, go watch the tough games and you will Spot the 3-4 kids on the field who will earn All County even before a single goal is scored.

Thank you for the heads up that kids who score points were raised poorly. If you truly feel that HS are a complete joke then why even bother to comment??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at
a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

The good coaches will use the eye test. The girls who dominate the play of the game are not always the ones putting up big numbers, especially in those blowout games. I can tell you right now the very worst girls on my daughters team are very capable of scoring 5-6 goals in those blowout games, and sadly often do. Most of the really good players would be embarrassed to do so and self regulate their own goal scoring. Why self regulate? Because the parents raised them correctly and they know better even when the coach doesn’t stop that crap. Stats in HS are a complete joke, go watch the tough games and you will Spot the 3-4 kids on the field who will earn All County even before a single goal is scored.

First off many coaches keep a good feeder in even mismatched games to spread the ball otherwise it can become a mess and to disparage kids for essentially passing the ball is ridiculous. Your concept of spotting the all county players is ill informed at best , all county selections are purely based on how your team finishes and who your coach selects .

And there you go. Typical bad parenting, “go get yours” that’s why you see girls scoring 5,6-10 goals in a blow out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at
a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

The good coaches will use the eye test. The girls who dominate the play of the game are not always the ones putting up big numbers, especially in those blowout games. I can tell you right now the very worst girls on my daughters team are very capable of scoring 5-6 goals in those blowout games, and sadly often do. Most of the really good players would be embarrassed to do so and self regulate their own goal scoring. Why self regulate? Because the parents raised them correctly and they know better even when the coach doesn’t stop that crap. Stats in HS are a complete joke, go watch the tough games and you will Spot the 3-4 kids on the field who will earn All
County even before a single goal is scored.

First off many coaches keep a good feeder in even mismatched games to spread the ball otherwise it can become a mess and to disparage kids for essentially passing the ball is ridiculous. Your concept of spotting the all county players is ill informed at best , all county selections are purely based on how your team finishes and who your coach selects .

And there you go. Typical bad parenting, “go get yours” that’s why you see girls scoring 5,6-10 goals in a blow out.

And there you go . Typical ignorant parenting” my kid can’t score so I hate those that can” I also “can’t stand when kids pass the ball and get assists “. Grow up some kids can score and some can’t .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

The good coaches will use the eye test. The girls who dominate the play of the game are not always the ones putting up big numbers, especially in those blowout games. I can tell you right now the very worst girls on my daughters team are very capable of scoring 5-6 goals in those blowout games, and sadly often do. Most of the really good players would be embarrassed to do so and self regulate their own goal scoring. Why self regulate? Because the parents raised them correctly and they know better even when the coach doesn’t stop that crap. Stats in HS are a complete joke, go watch the tough games and you will Spot the 3-4 kids on the field who will earn All County even before a single goal is scored.

Thank you for the heads up that kids who score points were raised poorly. If you truly feel that HS are a complete joke then why even bother to comment??

Hey Suzie, your team is playing a really bad team tomorrow, you should be able to beat them 20-2. It’s a great opportunity to go score 10 goals. Yeah, that’s great. And yes this is exactly what you see.

My kid is a defensive middie who makes a lot of great plays. Stick checks, ground balls, interceptions. Not a lot of goal scoring. That's ok. She knows that she is working hard doing her job and getting the ball to the attack. Wish Newsday would report on things besides goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Padding assists in these ridiculously bad games is almost as bad as goals. Kids do it to run their "points" up. Most of those same kids have zero ground balls, barely ride in transition and never battle on the draw circle.

That is soooo not true and shows you have no clue what you are talking about!

Question - How are players chosen for All county? Do they look at a players goals in total, playing ability or the quality of their play? So if a player has 10 goals but all against an "easy" team but another player has 8 against harder teams does that come into consideration?

The good coaches will use the eye test. The girls who dominate the play of the game are not always the ones putting up big numbers, especially in those blowout games. I can tell you right now the very worst girls on my daughters team are very capable of scoring 5-6 goals in those blowout games, and sadly often do. Most of the really good players would be embarrassed to do so and self regulate their own goal scoring. Why self regulate? Because the parents raised them correctly and they know better even when the coach doesn’t stop that crap. Stats in HS are a complete joke, go watch the tough games and you will Spot the 3-4 kids on the field who will earn All County even before a single goal is scored.

Very true - many of the girls who are considered the best players in the county by coaches - the ones that impact the games in many ways will put up solid "points" but will not be high on the leader board.. They are also playing in tougher games based on their team's ranking and schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA played LBeach, double digit win.
CSH game cancelled at last minute due to weather.
Lost one preseason game v MD team in DC
Won one preseason game v NC team in DC

When was the last time SA lost a game by 10?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also won by double digits. Did you forget that?
Had a bad game, then had a good game.

What are you talking about?

This comment is absolutely unacceptable! Identifying high school-aged players on a social media sight should not be tolerated by any mediator. The person who wrote this response anonymously should be banned from further posting. No high school player deserves to be dragged into adult bantering over girls' lacrosse and their father does not deserve to be called out on social media for his behavior at his daughters' games. If you feel his actions warrant addressing, do so personally. If you aren't brave enough, ask the coach or referee to do so.

Once again, inappropriate comment!

SA beat LB 11-6, not double digits . LB goalie was amazing to keep the score close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a defensive middie who makes a lot of great plays. Stick checks, ground balls, interceptions. Not a lot of goal scoring. That's ok. She knows that she is working hard doing her job and getting the ball to the attack. Wish Newsday would report on things besides goals.

^this. And if not report, at least acknowledge the great effort. That should start with the coach though, and IME, coaches might praise those kids in a practice or huddle but they are rarely the talking point when it's time for PR. It's a shame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This comment is absolutely unacceptable! Identifying high school-aged players on a social media sight should not be tolerated by any mediator. The person who wrote this response anonymously should be banned from further posting. No high school player deserves to be dragged into adult bantering over girls' lacrosse and their father does not deserve to be called out on social media for his behavior at his daughters' games. If you feel his actions warrant addressing, do so personally. If you aren't brave enough, ask the coach or referee to do so.

Use the quote button..

Yes, you are correct, the SA win v LB game was 11-6. the LB goalie was incredible v SA. She is incredible every game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping Port beats Manhasset again this year. That was fun last year.

What happened to Port? They looked like a mess yesterday. I am guessing Manhasset could have scored 20 goals if they didnt stop scoring on them. For what its worth, Port should NOT be in the power conference. That game was just hard to watch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This comment is absolutely unacceptable! Identifying high school-aged players on a social media sight should not be tolerated by any mediator. The person who wrote this response anonymously should be banned from further posting. No high school player deserves to be dragged into adult bantering over girls' lacrosse and their father does not deserve to be called out on social media for his behavior at his daughters' games. If you feel his actions warrant addressing, do so personally. If you aren't brave enough, ask the coach or referee to do so.

Use the quote button..

What post are you referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a defensive middie who makes a lot of great plays. Stick checks, ground balls, interceptions. Not a lot of goal scoring. That's ok. She knows that she is working hard doing her job and getting the ball to the attack. Wish Newsday would report on things besides goals.

^this. And if not report, at least acknowledge the great effort. That should start with the coach though, and IME, coaches might praise those kids in a practice or huddle but they are rarely the talking point when it's time for PR. It's a shame.

Scoring leaders should be abolished in Newsday. Just post wins and losses. It pushes stat padding like crazy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a defensive middie who makes a lot of great plays. Stick checks, ground balls, interceptions. Not a lot of goal scoring. That's ok. She knows that she is working hard doing her job and getting the ball to the attack. Wish Newsday would report on things besides goals.

^this. And if not report, at least acknowledge the great effort. That should start with the coach though, and IME, coaches might praise those kids in a practice or huddle but they are rarely the talking point when it's time for PR. It's a shame.

Scoring leaders should be abolished in Newsday. Just post wins and losses. It pushes stat padding like crazy

Are there HS's out there running D Middies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a defensive middie who makes a lot of great plays. Stick checks, ground balls, interceptions. Not a lot of goal scoring. That's ok. She knows that she is working hard doing her job and getting the ball to the attack. Wish Newsday would report on things besides goals.

^this. And if not report, at least acknowledge the great effort. That should start with the coach though, and IME, coaches might praise those kids in a practice or huddle but they are rarely the talking point when it's time for PR. It's a shame.

Scoring leaders should be abolished in Newsday. Just post wins and losses. It pushes stat padding like crazy

If enough coaches got on board with that it would easily happen . All they need to do is just call in the scores and leave it at that . I would think they would probably prefer it as coaches .

girls h.s. running d middies? please name one. please?

my daughter is a man up goalie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping Port beats Manhasset again this year. That was fun last year.

What happened to Port? They looked like a mess yesterday. I am guessing Manhasset could have scored 20 goals if they didnt stop scoring on them. For what its worth, Port should NOT be in the power conference. That game was just hard to watch!

Graduated crucial seniors obviously

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

be reasonable. in girls lacrosse the defenders are statues who day dream and hold their stick up while offense runs by and shoots. no checking etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

girls h.s. running d middies? please name one. please?

I think they meant that their daughter is a more defensive minded middie . At least that's how I took it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

girls h.s. running d middies? please name one. please?

I think they meant that their daughter is a more defensive minded middie . At least that's how I took it.

there are middies that can easily transition into a defensive role

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This comment is absolutely unacceptable! Identifying high school-aged players on a social media sight should not be tolerated by any mediator. The person who wrote this response anonymously should be banned from further posting. No high school player deserves to be dragged into adult bantering over girls' lacrosse and their father does not deserve to be called out on social media for his behavior at his daughters' games. If you feel his actions warrant addressing, do so personally. If you aren't brave enough, ask the coach or referee to do so.

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The comment above is referring to the posts about Riverhead and Westhampton players. Some of the comments posted on this site, clearly identify specific players and in some cases their parents. The players are high school aged girls who are 15 and 16 years old. They are highly inappropriate and cross the line of right and wrong. Back of the Cage needs to step up and moderate what is posted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

be reasonable. in girls lacrosse the defenders are statues who day dream and hold their stick up while offense runs by and shoots. no checking etc.

Wow! And offense only, wins games. Lacrosse isn't a team sport. Defenders are irrelevant in girls' lacrosse. How sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

be reasonable. in girls lacrosse the defenders are statues who day dream and hold their stick up while offense runs by and shoots. no checking etc.

Wow! And offense only, wins games. Lacrosse isn't a team sport. Defenders are irrelevant in girls' lacrosse. How sad!

Clearly that poster is ignorant and did not see the ESM game today. Defense wins games!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

More than fair and should be implemented immediately. This one decision would eliminate a great amount of problems with the adults in girls’ high school lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

girls h.s. running d middies? please name one. please?

I think they meant that their daughter is a more defensive minded middie . At least that's how I took it.

And you are correct!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

girls h.s. running d middies? please name one. please?

I think they meant that their daughter is a more defensive minded middie . At least that's how I took it.

And you are correct!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

be reasonable. in girls lacrosse the defenders are statues who day dream and hold their stick up while offense runs by and shoots. no checking etc.

Wow! And offense only, wins games. Lacrosse isn't a team sport. Defenders are irrelevant in girls' lacrosse. How sad!

Clearly that poster is ignorant and did not see the ESM game today. Defense wins games!

Esp. When 2 good teams play each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

Here is a stat they don’t report in HS. The number of shots taken. That’s great Susie scored 4 goals today. That looks real impressive in Newsday against the last ranked team in the division. But I was at that game and Susie shot the ball 18 times and forced into the defense and lost the ball over and over from dropped balls and charge calls. Worst game I have ever seen played, but it shows the same as Katie’s game in Newsday. Katie had her 4 goals against Mount Sinai on 4 for 4 shooting including the OT game winner, best game I have ever seen any girl play, ever. And that is why the stats are a joke. HS ball is irrelevant, HS stats are skewed and college coaches pay no attention. Travel teams are where all the girls get seen and recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

More than fair and should be implemented immediately. This one decision would eliminate a great amount of problems with the adults in girls’ high school lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

More than fair and should be implemented immediately. This one decision would eliminate a great amount of problems with the adults in girls’ high school lacrosse.

SHA last year included in one of their post game Newsday write-ups, the number of Caused TurnOvers one of their defenders had in the game. Clearly the CTOs made a difference in the game because it gave possession back to SHA so that they could score. The SHA coach recognized the impact on the game of this player and took the time to give credit to the player in the write up. Kudos to that coach! More should do it. The stat book has a place for CTOs along with ground balls and draw controls, crucial stats in a game.
The info is there, but the coaches don’t get paid to write quality articles in 15 minutes after a game, it’s easier just to give the easy stats: goals, assists and saves. It’s life, get over it.

Then the poor kid or team manager will have some nut jobs calling out names to attribute stats. “Did you get that?” Susie smith caused that turnover etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then the poor kid or team manager will have some nut jobs calling out names to attribute stats. “Did you get that?” Susie smith caused that turnover etc.

Any difference than Shannon's parents calling that out for an asst?

not at all. both are terrible.

Many of you simply don't get it. Scoring goals is a good thing but it is not the only thing.

GB's, CT, Saves, assists, DC, etc... Are all just as important.

Turnovers , poor decision, selfish play, lack of hustle, lack of communication , missed slides, being out of position, getting in the way of teammates etc... All have a negative impact on the team but many parents don't see any of it (bad coaches miss it too).

Since most HS teams are extremely weak and have very few strong athletes it is easy for girls to pad their stats if the coach allows it.

As another person pointed out, Girls HS Lacrosse is meaningless and irrelevant. That is until you get to the county finals or at least the final four. And it is rare that the teams with selfish stat padding players will make it that far.

Two truths: Defense wins championships and selfish players will always hurt their team.

Very sad but the meaning of "One more" has changed.

Sad scene at a JV game this week (was going to say funny, but it really wasn't):

Opposing team dad who apparently didn't know any of his daughter's teammate's names, but was quick to yell "pass" when one of them picked up the ball. He was "cheering" her on with little tidbits as he played with younger siblings on the side - "get the draw," "hustle," "get in there," "you gotta want it," etc. Got tired of hearing her name. She finally got possession near midfield and it was "go, go, go" until she forced her way in and scored. Then it was "yeah, do that every time." At halftime he walked around to the other side and was talking to her through the fence while the rest of the team was huddled together.

I guess I should know better by now, but it baffles me how clueless parents can be - not only about the game, but how their actions can negatively impact their kids.

For those that think HS Lax and Newsday stats don't matter, go look at every big time LI recruits college bio. Everyone lists their HS point total, their all conference awards as well as the BS for pay all star teams they signed up for i mean tried out for in HS.

Every kid also puts those stats on their recruiting resume. So it does kind of matter in the self promotion aspect of recruiting.

I agree no one says their shooting percentage was 200 or that they had 100 turnovers in running up their stats. Just look at the SB all time goal leader. Probably 50% of her goals were college stat padding n blowout games against weak competition just like HS girls do

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those that think HS Lax and Newsday stats don't matter, go look at every big time LI recruits college bio. Everyone lists their HS point total, their all conference awards as well as the BS for pay all star teams they signed up for i mean tried out for in HS.

Every kid also puts those stats on their recruiting resume. So it does kind of matter in the self promotion aspect of recruiting.

I agree no one says their shooting percentage was 200 or that they had 100 turnovers in running up their stats. Just look at the SB all time goal leader. Probably 50% of her goals were college stat padding n blowout games against weak competition just like HS girls do

All of those players were recruited on the club circuit playing against the best competition in the country. Putting your stats in your Bio is also meaningless and doesn't matter in any way. What BS teams are you talking about?

The top kids do not even have a "recruiting resume". The top kids do their self promotion on the field competing against the best competition. No letters have to be sent, no resumes no phone calls. The college coaches from the best college programs go and watch the top club teams play and then they call the players that they like. News flash.... the top 10 - 15 programs go after and make offers to many of the same players. Those are the top kids and their HS stats have nothing to do with it.

How has Stony Brook's stat padding worked out for them? They are the most over hyped team in the history of the game, Their fans talk as if they are Northwestern or Maryland. They have not made it past the final 8. Maybe this year but up until now they have under achieved in the tournament.

BTW... SBU Coach (and he is a very good coach) allows stat padding but those players are not selfish big difference.

They are nothing like HS girls. Running to the goal and running past 3 or 4 un-athletic girls when the ball should be passed is selfish and ugly. Have you watched SBU play? They make the pass.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those that think HS Lax and Newsday stats don't matter, go look at every big time LI recruits college bio. Everyone lists their HS point total, their all conference awards as well as the BS for pay all star teams they signed up for i mean tried out for in HS.

Every kid also puts those stats on their recruiting resume. So it does kind of matter in the self promotion aspect of recruiting.

I agree no one says their shooting percentage was 200 or that they had 100 turnovers in running up their stats. Just look at the SB all time goal leader. Probably 50% of her goals were college stat padding n blowout games against weak competition just like HS girls do

All of those players were recruited on the club circuit playing against the best competition in the country. Putting your stats in your Bio is also meaningless and doesn't matter in any way. What BS teams are you talking about?

The top kids do not even have a "recruiting resume". The top kids do their self promotion on the field competing against the best competition. No letters have to be sent, no resumes no phone calls. The college coaches from the best college programs go and watch the top club teams play and then they call the players that they like. News flash.... the top 10 - 15 programs go after and make offers to many of the same players. Those are the top kids and their HS stats have nothing to do with it.

How has Stony Brook's stat padding worked out for them? They are the most over hyped team in the history of the game, Their fans talk as if they are Northwestern or Maryland. They have not made it past the final 8. Maybe this year but up until now they have under achieved in the tournament.

BTW... SBU Coach (and he is a very good coach) allows stat padding but those players are not selfish big difference.

They are nothing like HS girls. Running to the goal and running past 3 or 4 un-athletic girls when the ball should be passed is selfish and ugly. Have you watched SBU play? They make the pass.

I agree the best of the best don't need anything but their play on the field but what about the bottom 85% of kids? They all send the resumes with their stats, playing resume and contact info. As for SB I agree they are fiercely talented offensively and they DO make the pass but they also keep going to go to goal when they are up by 20!!!! Thsts the problem and you are right their coach loves that his players make national news with their bloated stats (a true YJ LOL)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those that think HS Lax and Newsday stats don't matter, go look at every big time LI recruits college bio. Everyone lists their HS point total, their all conference awards as well as the BS for pay all star teams they signed up for i mean tried out for in HS.

Every kid also puts those stats on their recruiting resume. So it does kind of matter in the self promotion aspect of recruiting.

I agree no one says their shooting percentage was 200 or that they had 100 turnovers in running up their stats. Just look at the SB all time goal leader. Probably 50% of her goals were college stat padding n blowout games against weak competition just like HS girls do

All of those players were recruited on the club circuit playing against the best competition in the country. Putting your stats in your Bio is also meaningless and doesn't matter in any way. What BS teams are you talking about?

The top kids do not even have a "recruiting resume". The top kids do their self promotion on the field competing against the best competition. No letters have to be sent, no resumes no phone calls. The college coaches from the best college programs go and watch the top club teams play and then they call the players that they like. News flash.... the top 10 - 15 programs go after and make offers to many of the same players. Those are the top kids and their HS stats have nothing to do with it.

How has Stony Brook's stat padding worked out for them? They are the most over hyped team in the history of the game, Their fans talk as if they are Northwestern or Maryland. They have not made it past the final 8. Maybe this year but up until now they have under achieved in the tournament.

BTW... SBU Coach (and he is a very good coach) allows stat padding but those players are not selfish big difference.

They are nothing like HS girls. Running to the goal and running past 3 or 4 un-athletic girls when the ball should be passed is selfish and ugly. Have you watched SBU play? They make the pass.

Everyone knows that Newsday stats are a non factor, including HS and College Coaches. Just look at the nassau stats only one girl in the top 30 plays in the "super conference" where defense is actually played,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those that think HS Lax and Newsday stats don't matter, go look at every big time LI recruits college bio. Everyone lists their HS point total, their all conference awards as well as the BS for pay all star teams they signed up for i mean tried out for in HS.

Every kid also puts those stats on their recruiting resume. So it does kind of matter in the self promotion aspect of recruiting.

I agree no one says their shooting percentage was 200 or that they had 100 turnovers in running up their stats. Just look at the SB all time goal leader. Probably 50% of her goals were college stat padding n blowout games against weak competition just like HS girls do

All of those players were recruited on the club circuit playing against the best competition in the country. Putting your stats in your Bio is also meaningless and doesn't matter in any way. What BS teams are you talking about?

The top kids do not even have a "recruiting resume". The top kids do their self promotion on the field competing against the best competition. No letters have to be sent, no resumes no phone calls. The college coaches from the best college programs go and watch the top club teams play and then they call the players that they like. News flash.... the top 10 - 15 programs go after and make offers to many of the same players. Those are the top kids and their HS stats have nothing to do with it.

How has Stony Brook's stat padding worked out for them? They are the most over hyped team in the history of the game, Their fans talk as if they are Northwestern or Maryland. They have not made it past the final 8. Maybe this year but up until now they have under achieved in the tournament.

BTW... SBU Coach (and he is a very good coach) allows stat padding but those players are not selfish big difference.

They are nothing like HS girls. Running to the goal and running past 3 or 4 un-athletic girls when the ball should be passed is selfish and ugly. Have you watched SBU play? They make the pass.

I agree the best of the best don't need anything but their play on the field but what about the bottom 85% of kids? They all send the resumes with their stats, playing resume and contact info. As for SB I agree they are fiercely talented offensively and they DO make the pass but they also keep going to go to goal when they are up by 20!!!! Thsts the problem and you are right their coach loves that his players make national news with their bloated stats (a true YJ LOL)

SBU runs their offense which generates good looks (shots) at the goal. They also push the ball in transition which also results in good looks (lay ups). They do not "run to goal" in a selfish manner. If they start doing that they will have an early exit from the tournament.

The sad thing is that the selfish players and their parents are oblivious, they do not see when the selfish play results in a playoff loss. Coaches who can't control it will be watching the county championship from the stands.

Stats are like Bikinis, they show somethings but not everything

hmmm....creepy analogy on a HS Girls lax chat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats are like Bikinis, they show somethings but not everything

LOL, I like that...true and funny!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a defensive middie who makes a lot of great plays. Stick checks, ground balls, interceptions. Not a lot of goal scoring. That's ok. She knows that she is working hard doing her job and getting the ball to the attack. Wish Newsday would report on things besides goals.

This has to be a joke. In my experience players with the mentality to excell on the defensive end of the field are not recognition seekers. It is not only athleticism that makes good defensive players it is also their mindset. It takes all types of players to make a successful team. Somebody has to score goals, somebody has to play goali, somebody has to play D, some middies have to kill themselves between the lines. Good coaches find the right combination and get the most out of their players . Those are the coaches who will compete for championships. Newsday is a rag and HS stats don't matter. Put up 10 goals Vs MD Black and then come talk to me.

Np vs wi. Best game

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

That’s just ridiculous , it’s a reflection of the parents , the coaches and the player and they should all be embarrassed .Disgusting really .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

That’s just ridiculous , it’s a reflection of the parents , the coaches and the player and they should all be embarrassed .Disgusting really .

You gotta love it when bad teams beat up on even worse teams then themselvrs. You think they'd have a mutual respect for each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

That’s just ridiculous , it’s a reflection of the parents , the coaches and the player and they should all be embarrassed .Disgusting really .

Can't wait until Hills plays a good team and beats them 31 to 1 and holds that kid to 0 0 0 .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

That’s just ridiculous , it’s a reflection of the parents , the coaches and the player and they should all be embarrassed .Disgusting really .

Are the people who are pointing out the goal scoring actually watching games or are they just looking at the box scores? Anyone who understands the game can watch and identify a selfish player. Newsy box scores do not paint an accurate reflection of the game.

Sometimes a girl can score 5 or six goals and all are the result of good team play while others a girl can have 5 or 6 and they are all selfish BS goals. They show up the same way in Newsday but they are very different.

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

That’s just ridiculous , it’s a reflection of the parents , the coaches and the player and they should all be embarrassed .Disgusting really .

Are the people who are pointing out the goal scoring actually watching games or are they just looking at the box scores? Anyone who understands the game can watch and identify a selfish player. Newsy box scores do not paint an accurate reflection of the game.

Sometimes a girl can score 5 or six goals and all are the result of good team play while others a girl can have 5 or 6 and they are all selfish BS goals. They show up the same way in Newsday but they are very different.

Not going to fly here...You take out her 17 points and they still win 14-1 combined...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

Here is a stat they don’t report in HS. The number of shots taken. That’s great Susie scored 4 goals today. That looks real impressive in Newsday against the last ranked team in the division. But I was at that game and Susie shot the ball 18 times and forced into the defense and lost the ball over and over from dropped balls and charge calls. Worst game I have ever seen played, but it shows the same as Katie’s game in Newsday. Katie had her 4 goals against Mount Sinai on 4 for 4 shooting including the OT game winner, best game I have ever seen any girl play, ever. And that is why the stats are a joke. HS ball is irrelevant, HS stats are skewed and college coaches pay no attention. Travel teams are where all the girls get seen and recruited.

laughable, on both ends. Coaches notice and you gotta keep shooting. Offense win games defense wins championships. Ive seen very good players go 30% and win. Ill take that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

That’s just ridiculous , it’s a reflection of the parents , the coaches and the player and they should all be embarrassed .Disgusting really .

Are the people who are pointing out the goal scoring actually watching games or are they just looking at the box scores? Anyone who understands the game can watch and identify a selfish player. Newsy box scores do not paint an accurate reflection of the game.

Sometimes a girl can score 5 or six goals and all are the result of good team play while others a girl can have 5 or 6 and they are all selfish BS goals. They show up the same way in Newsday but they are very different.

you trying to convince yourself of this BS.

Because with those numbers you dont need to see the game. Newsday does say, so and so score x amount of their point in the first half or so in so scored x amount of impact goals. that tells you when and how the goals were made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't call In soccer stats, basketball stats, tennis stats, bowling stats... what is up with lax parents? Let it go, that's life. Teach your children what you believe is right. Stats will always be part of sports. I guess we should do away with Joe D's 56 game hitting streak or Babe Ruth's 60 homers, maybe we should throw away all of our Olympic athletes Personal achievements. Who cares who actually finishes first in this years NYC marathon, lets just post who finished in alphabetical order. And forget the PGA tour, let's just all have fun out there. Are you people kidding me!!!!!!!!!

There should be stats most definitely but also include ground balls and draw controls...fair?

Here is a stat they don’t report in HS. The number of shots taken. That’s great Susie scored 4 goals today. That looks real impressive in Newsday against the last ranked team in the division. But I was at that game and Susie shot the ball 18 times and forced into the defense and lost the ball over and over from dropped balls and charge calls. Worst game I have ever seen played, but it shows the same as Katie’s game in Newsday. Katie had her 4 goals against Mount Sinai on 4 for 4 shooting including the OT game winner, best game I have ever seen any girl play, ever. And that is why the stats are a joke. HS ball is irrelevant, HS stats are skewed and college coaches pay no attention. Travel teams are where all the girls get seen and recruited.

laughable, on both ends. Coaches notice and you gotta keep shooting. Offense win games defense wins championships. Ive seen very good players go 30% and win. Ill take that

You are one of the people who don't get it.

Girls who are not skilled or athletic at early age stay on the so called defense. In hs defense is no factor for most teams. The stat ladder gets the press and the college looks during summer. If a parent feels better implying that sally chose defense when they know the accolades go to offense isn’t being honest .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of stat padders out there but this may be the worse one in Suffolk County - thus far. Half Hollow Hills player put up 17 points collectively in Lindenhurst and Copiague games. May not sound awful until you see that her team outscored those teams 31-1. Parents must be very proud of her.

That’s just ridiculous , it’s a reflection of the parents , the coaches and the player and they should all be embarrassed .Disgusting really .

Are the people who are pointing out the goal scoring actually watching games or are they just looking at the box scores? Anyone who understands the game can watch and identify a selfish player. Newsy box scores do not paint an accurate reflection of the game.

Sometimes a girl can score 5 or six goals and all are the result of good team play while others a girl can have 5 or 6 and they are all selfish BS goals. They show up the same way in Newsday but they are very different.

How about this, when you are up by 10 and your despised daughter has scored 8 you just tell her to pass the ball? Fair enough?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

She has her fingers in everything else. Tournament circuit, training, privates, clinics, camps, all star games etc. More powerful than just a handful of college coaches. And she Earns more than any of those powerful coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

She has her fingers in everything else. Tournament circuit, training, privates, clinics, camps, all star games etc. More powerful than just a handful of college coaches. And she Earns more than any of those powerful coaches.

Word is CR finally got her price and sold YJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

She has her fingers in everything else. Tournament circuit, training, privates, clinics, camps, all star games etc. More powerful than just a handful of college coaches. And she Earns more than any of those powerful coaches.

Word is CR finally got her price and sold YJ

yup for a huge number

I

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

She has her fingers in everything else. Tournament circuit, training, privates, clinics, camps, all star games etc. More powerful than just a handful of college coaches. And she Earns more than any of those powerful coaches.

Word is CR finally got her price and sold YJ

Why does some imbecile come on here every year and say the same thing ? It’s almost as stupid as the west Hampton obsessed coward .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

She has her fingers in everything else. Tournament circuit, training, privates, clinics, camps, all star games etc. More powerful than just a handful of college coaches. And she Earns more than any of those powerful coaches.

Word is CR finally got her price and sold YJ

yup for a huge number

3.5 m

Now that you have to register it looks like this is a dead site

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Now that you have to register it looks like this is a dead site

Give it another day, it will be back to normal.

Close this forum, its done. 5 days and nothing about lacrosse. What a shame.

What was the final of the Long Beach v Darien game yesterday in the Gains for Brains Tournament? Can’t find a score in Newsdsay.

Originally Posted by annoymous

What was the final of the Long Beach v Darien game yesterday in the Gains for Brains Tournament? Can’t find a score in Newsdsay.

I think it was something like 14-7 Darien. It was on news 12 yesterday.

Just curious with all the talent at RP why isn’t their record that good?
So they beat their rival team today , but where’s the consistency playing weaker teams ? They always had a good record year in year out , what happened this year ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

She has her fingers in everything else. Tournament circuit, training, privates, clinics, camps, all star games etc. More powerful than just a handful of college coaches. And she Earns more than any of those powerful coaches.

Word is CR finally got her price and sold YJ

yup for a huge number

3.5 m

3.5m? Where did you hear this from b/c those numbers wouldn't be public and who purchased the company?

Originally Posted by REALAXIT

Just curious with all the talent at RP why isn’t their record that good?
So they beat their rival team today , but where’s the consistency playing weaker teams ? They always had a good record year in year out , what happened this year ?

This team is full of players who are and will be playing at the next level. Surprised their record isn't strong but I don't know how good the other teams are that they faced.

From the looks of Newsday they did not face to many good teams , stacked roster and losing games against mediocre teams Leeds to one conclusion... it’s all in the coaching !

Originally Posted by LiLaxDad

Originally Posted by REALAXIT

Just curious with all the talent at RP why isn’t their record that good?
So they beat their rival team today , but where’s the consistency playing weaker teams ? They always had a good record year in year out , what happened this year ?

This team is full of players who are and will be playing at the next level. Surprised their record isn't strong but I don't know how good the other teams are that they faced.

Because D Spallina left and the great AD decided to give the HC job to a PAL daddy coach. With all the D1 commits on that team, they should not be under .500, they should be fighting for County/States. The AD should be canned and demote the coach back to PAL.

I wouldn’t worry about that guy to much he’s going Next level and heading to collegiate coaching .
He’s going to be another RP guy who takes a downed D1 college program and turn them #1 .

Comsewogue player puts up 13 points against Hampton Bays. Lets hope this is a typo. That game was over in 2 minutes.

Originally Posted by lax101

Comsewogue player puts up 13 points against Hampton Bays. Lets hope this is a typo. That game was over in 2 minutes.

Certainly not the only example of poor sportsmanship this past week. Kid from WHB can barely score against decent teams or only scores in those games in garbage time after the opposing team takes out their starters but against Deer Park she puts up grotesque numbers .The parents , coaches and players that do this should be embarrassed of themselves. The funny thing is they don't think anyone will remember how pathetic they are when they tell everyone how great their kid is because she put up 100 points this year when in reality everyone knows so many of these kids used to be some of the best in their age but are now nothing special and are just so desperate to try to stay at the top they will do anything. Lots of examples of this going on but in the end its just an example of poor parenting .

Bayport vs Mattituck, will Bayport blow them away or will it be a close game.

Two well coached teams that game plan well. BBP stronger and faster and more talent but Mattituck plays all the best teams tough. They may pull the upset.

Comsewogue player strikes again. Now leading scorer in county after back to back 13 point games against Hampton Bays and Center Moriches. 51 of her 85 points are against HB, CM, Islip, DP and Glenn. .

Originally Posted by synergy

Comsewogue player strikes again. Now leading scorer in county after back to back 13 point games against Hampton Bays and Center Moriches. 51 of her 85 points are against HB, CM, Islip, DP and Glenn. .

Doubtful but one has to hope the players that put up these ridiculous numbers against completely overmatched teams get what they deserve and the coaches that select the post season awards not only take into account how unsportdmanlike these players are but also that the truly better players would be embarrassed to do so .

Originally Posted by synergy

Two well coached teams that game plan well. BBP stronger and faster and more talent but Mattituck plays all the best teams tough. They may pull the upset.

Awesome game to watch, yes I'll admit I'm biased as a Mattituck dad.
Mattituck started out strong jumping to a 3-1 lead which ended up 4-2 at half.
BBP seemed to have tough time getting through Mattituck defense and had several turnovers.
BBP made some adjustments and crept back in 2nd half then gaining 5-4 lead and then scoring an empty netter with under a minute to a 6-4 final.

At least Mattituck takes the loss without blaming or anything. 2 tough teams but only one was able to win. Good tough game by both teams. Thats why both are 2 of top teams in Suffolk.

Another phenomenal game this morning, Mt Sinai @ Mattituck, 8-7 Mt Sinai in OT. First time I’ve seen 3 ref system during regular season.

Having 3 refs is better then 2. Did you find the refing better with 3 or with 2 or were both games well officiated.

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Having 3 refs is better then 2. Did you find the refing better with 3 or with 2 or were both games well officiated.

There was some confusion on a couple plays with the 3 ref system, wouldn't necessarily say better.

Sachem vs Sachem, will be a battle, who do you think will be victorious as it will probably be a physical game. Does the winner or either team stand a chance vs Northport

Seems like usual teams on Catholic side for playoffs with Saint Anthony's vs. Sacred Heart in Champ. game---although SH had a battle it seems getting past Kellenberg (which is great for the CHSAA )..SH, i think was picked to win it all this year--(and still may)..but they didnt appear to live up to hype..my guess its a closer game based on SA's having a somewhat weaker team this year...
Any surprises in Publics?
Thoughts?

Kellenberg actually had them by 4-0 to start the game. Defense was stifling them. A bad yellow card allowed SHA to score 3 unanswered. Without that, it was Kellenberg's to win. Tonight should be exciting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg actually had them by 4-0 to start the game. Defense was stifling them. A bad yellow card allowed SHA to score 3 unanswered. Without that, it was Kellenberg's to win. Tonight should be exciting.

SA in a landslide!

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if CR had a stake in newsday

She has her fingers in everything else. Tournament circuit, training, privates, clinics, camps, all star games etc. More powerful than just a handful of college coaches. And she Earns more than any of those powerful coaches.

Word is CR finally got her price and sold YJ

yup for a huge number

3.5 m

3.5m? Where did you hear this from b/c those numbers wouldn't be public and who purchased the company?

The same big conglomerate that owns 91 and a bunch of other similar enterprises

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

I'd say the emperor has no clothes! SHA embarrassed SA in championship game tonight. I'd say the glory days argument is over for the foreseeable future, team hasn't been anywhere near great for some time and the future doesn't look promising...

PS - I believe you meant won their league (not one), must be that great SA education!

SHA WINS ! 11-6

....and dominated play the entire game!

SHA wins !! Defeats St Anthony’s 11-6

https://www.newsday.com/sports/high...ed-heart-chsaa-girls-lacrosse-1.18596189

Very True..SH did, in fact, dominate for most of the game....and think its great that there is a touch of parity on the girls side of CHSAA--both teams are young with SA only graduating 3 seniors and SH possibly the same?.....so makes for an exciting next few years with lots of talent on sidelines ready to go for both squads.....and watch Kberg as they seem to be developing some talent at the younger level...all good in the CHSAA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

I'd say the emperor has no clothes! SHA embarrassed SA in championship game tonight. I'd say the glory days argument is over for the foreseeable future, team hasn't been anywhere near great for some time and the future doesn't look promising...

PS - I believe you meant won their league (not one), must be that great SA education!

Full disclosure--SA fan here..While I would agree that SHA controlled and pretty much dominated the entire game, to use the term "embarrassed" is a touch extreme..and to say that the team has not been great for some time--what does that say about SHA and everyone else? congrats to SHA and a fine team.

Future doesn't look promising? SA graduates 3 seniors and is loaded at the soph/junior level and the SA JV dominated the CHSAA this past season, including extremely weak SHA JV team(s)..so if there is any team with a non-promising future, SHA may be the team..overall, it is a great thing for there to be parity in CHSAA and with teams like KBerg making strides, it looks like league is in fine form...

Originally Posted by anonomous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

I'd say the emperor has no clothes! SHA embarrassed SA in championship game tonight. I'd say the glory days argument is over for the foreseeable future, team hasn't been anywhere near great for some time and the future doesn't look promising...

PS - I believe you meant won their league (not one), must be that great SA education!

Full disclosure--SA fan here..While I would agree that SHA controlled and pretty much dominated the entire game, to use the term "embarrassed" is a touch extreme..and to say that the team has not been great for some time--what does that say about SHA and everyone else? congrats to SHA and a fine team.

Future doesn't look promising? SA graduates 3 seniors and is loaded at the soph/junior level and the SA JV dominated the CHSAA this past season, including extremely weak SHA JV team(s)..so if there is any team with a non-promising future, SHA may be the team..overall, it is a great thing for there to be parity in CHSAA and with teams like KBerg making strides, it looks like league is in fine form...

Nobody ever said SHA or anyone else was great - SA faithful keep telling everyone that, both lost multiple games to publics this year and last - that never happened when SA was great

Also, JV means nothing, anybody in 9th grade at SA that could play would have been on varsity already, which means the pipeline is looking dry going forward

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Sachem vs Sachem, will be a battle, who do you think will be victorious as it will probably be a physical game. Does the winner or either team stand a chance vs Northport

NO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Sachem vs Sachem, will be a battle, who do you think will be victorious as it will probably be a physical game. Does the winner or either team stand a chance vs Northport

NO

Northport will lose in counties

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by anonomous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

I'd say the emperor has no clothes! SHA embarrassed SA in championship game tonight. I'd say the glory days argument is over for the foreseeable future, team hasn't been anywhere near great for some time and the future doesn't look promising...

PS - I believe you meant won their league (not one), must be that great SA education!

Full disclosure--SA fan here..While I would agree that SHA controlled and pretty much dominated the entire game, to use the term "embarrassed" is a touch extreme..and to say that the team has not been great for some time--what does that say about SHA and everyone else? congrats to SHA and a fine team.

Future doesn't look promising? SA graduates 3 seniors and is loaded at the soph/junior level and the SA JV dominated the CHSAA this past season, including extremely weak SHA JV team(s)..so if there is any team with a non-promising future, SHA may be the team..overall, it is a great thing for there to be parity in CHSAA and with teams like KBerg making strides, it looks like league is in fine form...

Nobody ever said SHA or anyone else was great - SA faithful keep telling everyone that, both lost multiple games to publics this year and last - that never happened when SA was great

Also, JV means nothing, anybody in 9th grade at SA that could play would have been on varsity already, which means the pipeline is looking dry going forward

Ok...JV means nothing...using that logic you put forth,so how many 9th graders were on SHA roster?

....and SA did beat SHA 2x during the season so, yeah did SA lose big in championship game, but they did roll during regular season..and losing to #1 ranked team in country --Manhasset--isn't really the end of the world....at least SA doesn't back away from playing top tier teams...check out of conference schedule....CSH, GC, McDonough....down year?..maybe, but very talented underclassman will have SA back on top sooner rather than later..can same be said for SHA?...
like stated before, its a good thing when the CHSAA is competitive....all good...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Sachem vs Sachem, will be a battle, who do you think will be victorious as it will probably be a physical game. Does the winner or either team stand a chance vs Northport

NO

Thats not saying anything at all.

What about today's games. West Islip at Ward Melville, and Riverhead at Northport.
first game is a toss up, West Islip has been hot. Second game have to think Northport will handle Riverhead, Riverhead did hold them close a few weeks ago.

What the heck happened in the BBP/WH game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What the heck happened in the BBP/WH game?

Looks like BBP lost in ot.

Rocky Point lost by a goal to Mt. Sinai. Lots of turnovers and missed passes, poor shots by Mt. Sinai. Would love to see the crybaby Al lose to WH. His team is not that good this year.

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Rocky Point lost by a goal to Mt. Sinai. Lots of turnovers and missed passes, poor shots by Mt. Sinai. Would love to see the crybaby Al lose to WH. His team is not that good this year.

Not a Mt. Sinai person here, but Mt. Sinai is very talented, and in the same breath I thought that Rocky Point is very talented and underachieved all season, so it is no surprise that they had a close game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Rocky Point lost by a goal to Mt. Sinai. Lots of turnovers and missed passes, poor shots by Mt. Sinai. Would love to see the crybaby Al lose to WH. His team is not that good this year.

Not a Mt. Sinai person here, but Mt. Sinai is very talented, and in the same breath I thought that Rocky Point is very talented and underachieved all season, so it is no surprise that they had a close game.

Like you, not a Mt. Sinai person. Agreed.......no doubt RP better than their record and anyone stating Mt. Sinai is not good, is wrong. And since they stated Al is a crybaby, they're clearly just jealous. On another note, Who wins.....Mt Sinai or Westhampton team {with a little help from last year's East Hampton team}?

Originally Posted by anonomous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by anonomous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have one their league for 10 consecutive seasons. I’d say they are doing Ok.

I'd say the emperor has no clothes! SHA embarrassed SA in championship game tonight. I'd say the glory days argument is over for the foreseeable future, team hasn't been anywhere near great for some time and the future doesn't look promising...

PS - I believe you meant won their league (not one), must be that great SA education!

Full disclosure--SA fan here..While I would agree that SHA controlled and pretty much dominated the entire game, to use the term "embarrassed" is a touch extreme..and to say that the team has not been great for some time--what does that say about SHA and everyone else? congrats to SHA and a fine team.

Future doesn't look promising? SA graduates 3 seniors and is loaded at the soph/junior level and the SA JV dominated the CHSAA this past season, including extremely weak SHA JV team(s)..so if there is any team with a non-promising future, SHA may be the team..overall, it is a great thing for there to be parity in CHSAA and with teams like KBerg making strides, it looks like league is in fine form...

Nobody ever said SHA or anyone else was great - SA faithful keep telling everyone that, both lost multiple games to publics this year and last - that never happened when SA was great

Also, JV means nothing, anybody in 9th grade at SA that could play would have been on varsity already, which means the pipeline is looking dry going forward

Ok...JV means nothing...using that logic you put forth,so how many 9th graders were on SHA roster?

SHA has 500 kids in the entire school, SA has 500 per grade...

Originally Posted by anonomous

....and SA did beat SHA 2x during the season so, yeah did SA lose big in championship game, but they did roll during regular season..and losing to #1 ranked team in country --Manhasset--isn't really the end of the world....at least SA doesn't back away from playing top tier teams...check out of conference schedule....CSH, GC, McDonough....down year?..maybe, but very talented underclassman will have SA back on top sooner rather than later..can same be said for SHA?...
like stated before, its a good thing when the CHSAA is competitive....all good...

SA avoided McDonough and all the Maryland teams this year, instead the went to DC and lost by double digits in one of the two games they played

Someone said Sinai stalled for the last 15 minutes of the RP game. If they were so talented why would they need to do that. RP barely made the play-offs. Mt. Sinai is the best "team" in the county but they definitely do not have the best talent. Everyone does their job and they are very disciplined. They bore teams to death with how much they stall and milk the clock. HS lax desperately needs a shot clock. It is hard to watch at times just like college lax use to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxrus99

Rocky Point lost by a goal to Mt. Sinai. Lots of turnovers and missed passes, poor shots by Mt. Sinai. Would love to see the crybaby Al lose to WH. His team is not that good this year.

Not a Mt. Sinai person here, but Mt. Sinai is very talented, and in the same breath I thought that Rocky Point is very talented and underachieved all season, so it is no surprise that they had a close game.

Like you, not a Mt. Sinai person. Agreed.......no doubt RP better than their record and anyone stating Mt. Sinai is not good, is wrong. And since they stated Al is a crybaby, they're clearly just jealous. On another note, Who wins.....Mt Sinai or Westhampton team {with a little help from last year's East Hampton team}?

Anything can happen, especially if Westhampton is hitting their stride. So while Mt.S is favored, I wouldn't count WH out. Should be interesting.

Hope to see WH come out on top and see how much Al cries about the game after they lose.

Originally Posted by lax101

Someone said Sinai stalled for the last 15 minutes of the RP game. If they were so talented why would they need to do that. RP barely made the play-offs. Mt. Sinai is the best "team" in the county but they definitely do not have the best talent. Everyone does their job and they are very disciplined. They bore teams to death with how much they stall and milk the clock. HS lax desperately needs a shot clock. It is hard to watch at times just like college lax use to be.

Stalling requires talent......and discipline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by lax101

Someone said Sinai stalled for the last 15 minutes of the RP game. If they were so talented why would they need to do that. RP barely made the play-offs. Mt. Sinai is the best "team" in the county but they definitely do not have the best talent. Everyone does their job and they are very disciplined. They bore teams to death with how much they stall and milk the clock. HS lax desperately needs a shot clock. It is hard to watch at times just like college lax use to be.

Stalling requires talent......and discipline.

Good luck in college!! Can't stall there so it's a wasted talent. STALL BALL/FACEGUARDING= BERT BALL=BORING. Mr Sinai take a team head to head let's see how you do??

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

15 minutes of stalling could of cost them the game. They did turn it over once and a few times dropped the ball. They are not as talented as some think, if they can't catch a simple pass to them. Hard time scooping up the ball too. That is lacrosse 101. Bert can't even do that. Hence why he is a high school coach and not college because if he staled in college, wouldn't work and he would be a below 500 coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

They have been chosen- couple of weeks ago -- coach picks them and then the conference coaches vote.

Was surprised to see Syosset lose to Port last night

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was surprised to see Syosset lose to Port last night

weren't they ranked top ten nationally at some point? what a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.

Wrong, coaches do not vote on all county.

do you know how many allotments each team has. Did it change this year? Is it an extra player per round if they make playoffs? Are there all tournament Playoff awards?
Obviously just curious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

do you know how many allotments each team has. Did it change this year? Is it an extra player per round if they make playoffs? Are there all tournament Playoff awards?
Obviously just curious

Its a team game, only award that you should be worrying about is the state title...if your not first your last

Originally Posted by Anonymous

do you know how many allotments each team has. Did it change this year? Is it an extra player per round if they make playoffs? Are there all tournament Playoff awards?
Obviously just curious

It is done before the Playoffs so if you are a #1 seed, the team can get allotted anywhere from 6-12 awards. Am finding out now exactly how many spots are given to each respective team in the order in which they are ranked/seeded going into the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.

Wrong, coaches do not vote on all county.

Coaches Absolutely Do Vote for All County Players. The only award that is "given" out is All Conference...HM All County & All County Awards are voted by the coaches but you have to be nominated by your coach.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.

Wrong, coaches do not vote on all county.

Coaches Absolutely Do Vote for All County Players. The only award that is "given" out is All Conference...HM All County & All County Awards are voted by the coaches but you have to be nominated by your coach.

You can say that all you want but you are still wrong .i have been to those meetings . Simply put each team is given a certain amount of awards strictly based on where they finished at the end of the regular season . If a team is given let’s say 2 all county , 3 all division based on where they finished the head coach selects who gets those awards, on occasion a coach may trade an all county for two all divisions with another coach etc but it is not voted on .This is in regard to section 11 and AA awards are done differently .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

So why is favoritism allowed over talent, stats? A really good player can be overlooked by her coach because of playing favorites? Aren't there some general guidelines?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

So why is favoritism allowed over talent, stats? A really good player can be overlooked by her coach because of playing favorites? Aren't there some general guidelines?

You lost me at stats. I think it's been argued here to death that at least half the time someone's stats are the result of running up the score against weaker teams. HS teams keep stats for goals and assists, and goalie stats. No one is tallying ground balls or caused turnovers. Can you see where I'm going here? Plenty of girls who do their job and do it well but don't get recognition. As far as I know, there are no guidelines. There's a lot of stats (and we all know their worth) and then there's who the coach values or likes. Color me jaded. I saw a girl get All County when she couldn't even do a thing with her non-dominant hand. She couldn't understand plays, would ask my kid to explain them to her and then not execute them. An athletic girl but not a stellar lacrosse player but the coach love, love, loved her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was surprised to see Syosset lose to Port last night

weren't they ranked top ten nationally at some point? what a joke

Top 10 nationally??? Where do you come up with this stuff???

Us lax magazine had them top ten earlier in season

Yes top 10 after 4 games...they beat Garden City in one of those games who was already ranked very high preseason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.

County Finals
Wantagh vs CSH. Not a bad run for a non lacrosse town. Winning the finals last season and in the finals again this year.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

So why is favoritism allowed over talent, stats? A really good player can be overlooked by her coach because of playing favorites? Aren't there some general guidelines?

You lost me at stats. I think it's been argued here to death that at least half the time someone's stats are the result of running up the score against weaker teams. HS teams keep stats for goals and assists, and goalie stats. No one is tallying ground balls or caused turnovers. Can you see where I'm going here? Plenty of girls who do their job and do it well but don't get recognition. As far as I know, there are no guidelines. There's a lot of stats (and we all know their worth) and then there's who the coach values or likes. Color me jaded. I saw a girl get All County when she couldn't even do a thing with her non-dominant hand. She couldn't understand plays, would ask my kid to explain them to her and then not execute them. An athletic girl but not a stellar lacrosse player but the coach love, love, loved her.

Well that's why I'm curious. And that's why I think coaches from other teams need to give bids for opposing team's players. Big deal a player can get 20 goals etc in on weaker teams - what about the true quality of their play? What about the play makers that get those ground balls but whose "stats' may not show tremendous goals, what about GB Stats, Forced Turnovers, %DCW etc..... Let's recognize the true Athletes and not favorites....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

So why is favoritism allowed over talent, stats? A really good player can be overlooked by her coach because of playing favorites? Aren't there some general guidelines?

You lost me at stats. I think it's been argued here to death that at least half the time someone's stats are the result of running up the score against weaker teams. HS teams keep stats for goals and assists, and goalie stats. No one is tallying ground balls or caused turnovers. Can you see where I'm going here? Plenty of girls who do their job and do it well but don't get recognition. As far as I know, there are no guidelines. There's a lot of stats (and we all know their worth) and then there's who the coach values or likes. Color me jaded. I saw a girl get All County when she couldn't even do a thing with her non-dominant hand. She couldn't understand plays, would ask my kid to explain them to her and then not execute them. An athletic girl but not a stellar lacrosse player but the coach love, love, loved her.

Well that's why I'm curious. And that's why I think coaches from other teams need to give bids for opposing team's players. Big deal a player can get 20 goals etc in on weaker teams - what about the true quality of their play? What about the play makers that get those ground balls but whose "stats' may not show tremendous goals, what about GB Stats, Forced Turnovers, %DCW etc..... Let's recognize the true Athletes and not favorites....

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It is a nice recognition but selection is flawed. On any given year there are players at programs like Garden City and Manhasset who are not recognized. The problem is, that coaches are only given so many picks. there are players who are named All County who would not start on one of the teams loaded with talent. Some coaches will favor seniors others will simple favor a player for whatever reason. Some coaches will not pick a player because they do not like the player or the parent . If you are a really good athlete on an average team you will more than likely be recognized. If you are a really good player on a team with 10 or more really good players it is a crap shoot.

Not trying to diminish the award but every year there are some really good players who are not on the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes top 10 after 4 games...they beat Garden City in one of those games who was already ranked very high preseason.

That poll is a joke on so many levels, the people who generate that garbage should be embarrassed, they were never a top 10 team on LI, never mind nationwide

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.

County Finals
Wantagh vs CSH. Not a bad run for a non lacrosse town. Winning the finals last season and in the finals again this year.

Who exactly did Wantagh beat to get to the championship game??? Nobody

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?

1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

So why is favoritism allowed over talent, stats? A really good player can be overlooked by her coach because of playing favorites? Aren't there some general guidelines?

You lost me at stats. I think it's been argued here to death that at least half the time someone's stats are the result of running up the score against weaker teams. HS teams keep stats for goals and assists, and goalie stats. No one is tallying ground balls or caused turnovers. Can you see where I'm going here? Plenty of girls who do their job and do it well but don't get recognition. As far as I know, there are no guidelines. There's a lot of stats (and we all know their worth) and then there's who the coach values or likes. Color me jaded. I saw a girl get All County when she couldn't even do a thing with her non-dominant hand. She couldn't understand plays, would ask my kid to explain them to her and then not execute them. An athletic girl but not a stellar lacrosse player but the coach love, love, loved her.

Well that's why I'm curious. And that's why I think coaches from other teams need to give bids for opposing team's players. Big deal a player can get 20 goals etc in on weaker teams - what about the true quality of their play? What about the play makers that get those ground balls but whose "stats' may not show tremendous goals, what about GB Stats, Forced Turnovers, %DCW etc..... Let's recognize the true Athletes and not favorites....

So you expect an opposing coach, in one game per year, to not only recognize the top players on another them and know their names, but then care enough to remember them at the end of the year to vote for them? Because if it's not from that one game they played against them, they would be going on reputation and stats, which is just as bad. Or maybe even worse - just picking the girls they know from their club team, and people would complain about that. Sounds like you have a daughter who doesn't get the recognition she deserves (or you think she deserves), which is frustrating, but it's the same in other sports - number of awards based on team performance - and there's no easy fix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.

County Finals
Wantagh vs CSH. Not a bad run for a non lacrosse town. Winning the finals last season and in the finals again this year.

Who exactly did Wantagh beat to get to the championship game??? Nobody

Let it go already you obviously have an axe to grind with Wantagh. They have exceeded expectations regardless of what happens in the final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.

County Finals
Wantagh vs CSH. Not a bad run for a non lacrosse town. Winning the finals last season and in the finals again this year.

Who exactly did Wantagh beat to get to the championship game??? Nobody

You can only beat who they put in front of you. Beating CSH will be a tall task even though Wantagh beat them early in season. They have been playing very well at end of season. The Nassau power conference is tough every year, just ask St Anthony's (3 losses to power conference) and Sacred Heart (3 losses to power conference). Wantagh may have been close to the bottom of the power conference but they deserve some respect

County Predictions?? I say Northport/ ESM and Westhampton.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

County Predictions?? I say Northport/ ESM and Westhampton.

Wi/esm/ sinai

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

They hate giving the HLA Award to Long Island girls and do it very begrudgingly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.

County Finals
Wantagh vs CSH. Not a bad run for a non lacrosse town. Winning the finals last season and in the finals again this year.

Who exactly did Wantagh beat to get to the championship game??? Nobody

Let it go already you obviously have an axe to grind with Wantagh. They have exceeded expectations regardless of what happens in the final.

Really, back to back finals and this stunad questions Wantagh lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Who's the superstar from down South?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They hate giving the HLA Award to Long Island girls and do it very begrudgingly.

They averaged 18 goals a game against 3rd and 4th region teams...move them up next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They hate giving the HLA Award to Long Island girls and do it very begrudgingly.

They averaged 18 goals a game against 3rd and 4th region teams...move them up next year.

What team are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They hate giving the HLA Award to Long Island girls and do it very begrudgingly.

They averaged 18 goals a game against 3rd and 4th region teams...move them up next year.

What team are you talking about?

A team from Florida

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

The kid is the real deal, had like 240 pts this hs season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

The kid is the real deal, had like 240 pts this hs season.

In Florida!!! There is no competition. Wake up.

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Who exactly did Wantagh beat to get to the championship game??? Nobody

Let it go already you obviously have an axe to grind with Wantagh. They have exceeded expectations regardless of what happens in the final.
[/quote]

Really, back to back finals and this stunad questions Wantagh lacrosse.[/quote]

In Nassau county if you aren't in the Power Conference its like you are playing PAL. Division Clarke Locust Valley Valley Lynbrrok Bethpage all out early and then Seaford and Plainedge getting beat up late. Wantagh and CSH are definitely the two best teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

The kid is the real deal, had like 240 pts this hs season.

I think it's been established that points alone mean bubkus.

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

Never saw her play and never really heard her name so.....got nothing for you.

who cares who the best player is, and how they play in college, there is no career for them as a player after college so does it really matter. Not like they have a professional womens lacrosse league and she will be negotiating her 8 million dollar salary for 7 years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

She’s never lived on Long Island She just played here one summer

Originally Posted by laxrus99

who cares who the best player is, and how they play in college, there is no career for them as a player after college so does it really matter. Not like they have a professional womens lacrosse league and she will be negotiating her 8 million dollar salary for 7 years

Ok so then we might as well not care about anything in life. Boys stop wrestling , there is no professional wrestling. Why does every parent of a kid that's not that good say that.....jealousy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

She’s never lived on Long Island She just played here one summer

and was a non factor on YJ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

She’s never lived on Long Island She just played here one summer

and was a non factor on YJ team

My daughter played with her at UA last summer, she is legit. The south team beat Baltimore in pool play, Philly in the playoffs and lost an OT game to Baltimore in the semi finals. By far the best pure scorer at UA Command tourney last summer and yes I watched LI and New England play. I did not see the School Girls event so no idea how she played in that tourney, but she is clearly one of the best attackers at 2020 in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I am a LI lacrosse fan, but you need to get over it. She is a great player. Also, JMU managed to win a national championship without a single goal, assist or save from a LI player. The game is more than just Nassau and Suffolk county...

She is a very good player and a very good scorer but not the best player at that age group which is incredibly talented country-wide. If you asked the girl or her parents they would tell you that there are better kids out there - certainly more complete players and better athletes. She would certainly be in the discussion but people who watched her UA team last year will tell you she was not the most complete player on that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I'll draw a few lines for you, not perfect but worth a discussion because you question her competition. Her American Heritage FL team beat St. Stephens & St. Agnes VA who beat Darien CT who beat Garden City NY and lost to Manhasset NY by 1. That American Heritage team from Florida is legit and you need to open your mind to the fact that great players come from more than just the 516 and 631...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I am a LI lacrosse fan, but you need to get over it. She is a great player. Also, JMU managed to win a national championship without a single goal, assist or save from a LI player. The game is more than just Nassau and Suffolk county...

Long Island defender on JMU from ESM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I am a LI lacrosse fan, but you need to get over it. She is a great player. Also, JMU managed to win a national championship without a single goal, assist or save from a LI player. The game is more than just Nassau and Suffolk county...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I am a LI lacrosse fan, but you need to get over it. She is a great player. Also, JMU managed to win a national championship without a single goal, assist or save from a LI player. The game is more than just Nassau and Suffolk county...

Uh maybe because they don’t want to go there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I am a LI lacrosse fan, but you need to get over it. She is a great player. Also, JMU managed to win a national championship without a single goal, assist or save from a LI player. The game is more than just Nassau and Suffolk county...

Long Island defender on JMU from ESM

Yes, a few girls from LI on the team and no offense to the defenders, the post was specific to goals, assists and saves.

Can we talk about Counties coming up? Mattituck vs Babylon tonight. Any predictions for Thursday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I am a LI lacrosse fan, but you need to get over it. She is a great player. Also, JMU managed to win a national championship without a single goal, assist or save from a LI player. The game is more than just Nassau and Suffolk county...

Long Island defender on JMU from ESM

Defenders don't count...only O

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is a very good player and a very good scorer but not the best player at that age group which is incredibly talented country-wide. If you asked the girl or her parents they would tell you that there are better kids out there - certainly more complete players and better athletes. She would certainly be in the discussion but people who watched her UA team last year will tell you she was not the most complete player on that team.

Sounds pretty humble. Wish we had that spirit on our YJ 2020 Team.

Lets keep this simple, Florida player is very good and deservingly recognized as one of the best players in the country at her age group, especially on the offensive end. Very subjective to say who the best person is in any sport. All that said, it is very hard to believe that a player that has been playing lax since she was probably five years old can go from being a solid player on the top YJ team for a full summer to the best player in the country in two short years. Especially when they are not much bigger or stronger or faster. It seems fairly impossible to be honest. It certainly helps that she plays in Florida and has the coaching she has. She is one of many players that will be fun to watch at the next level.

There are plenty of other players already verbally committed from Long Island that maybe didn't participate in this tournament. What really makes her the best???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I'll draw a few lines for you, not perfect but worth a discussion because you question her competition. Her American Heritage FL team beat St. Stephens & St. Agnes VA who beat Darien CT who beat Garden City NY and lost to Manhasset NY by 1. That American Heritage team from Florida is legit and you need to open your mind to the fact that great players come from more than just the 516 and 631...

The lunatics don't care. Haters gonna hate. The jealous parents will go on the attack every time a player other than their daughter is recognized as being better than their daughter.

They do it during the recruiting process, they do it during club team tryouts, They do it when the School girl teams are selected, they do it when Inside Lacrosse puts out their player rankings, they do it when UA Underclass Teams are selected, they do it after UA Seniors are announced , they do it all the time. This is just another example.
Congratulations to the player and her parents for earning MVP at School Girls.

The just can't admit that another player is better than their daughter. There is always an excuse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I'll draw a few lines for you, not perfect but worth a discussion because you question her competition. Her American Heritage FL team beat St. Stephens & St. Agnes VA who beat Darien CT who beat Garden City NY and lost to Manhasset NY by 1. That American Heritage team from Florida is legit and you need to open your mind to the fact that great players come from more than just the 516 and 631...

The lunatics don't care. Haters gonna hate. The jealous parents will go on the attack every time a player other than their daughter is recognized as being better than their daughter.

They do it during the recruiting process, they do it during club team tryouts, They do it when the School girl teams are selected, they do it when Inside Lacrosse puts out their player rankings, they do it when UA Underclass Teams are selected, they do it after UA Seniors are announced , they do it all the time. This is just another example.
Congratulations to the player and her parents for earning MVP at School Girls.

The just can't admit that another player is better than their daughter. There is always an excuse.

What was the excuse for li metro not winning the top division?

But my daughter is a YJ and we have been told we are the best. I'm confused, other kids in other programs are better?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She is a very good player and a very good scorer but not the best player at that age group which is incredibly talented country-wide. If you asked the girl or her parents they would tell you that there are better kids out there - certainly more complete players and better athletes. She would certainly be in the discussion but people who watched her UA team last year will tell you she was not the most complete player on that team.

Sounds pretty humble. Wish we had that spirit on our YJ 2020 Team.

That was her father posting...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

you are delusional if you think politics do not play a part. I know for a fact that a goalie that was scored highly ended up on the 3rd team. Beside the fact that many girls did not even try out for sg. Memorial Day is a tough wknd. And UA is completely biased and run by ppl who make sure their club girls are the top choices. If fla girl and her team are that good why weren’t they in top division?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I'll draw a few lines for you, not perfect but worth a discussion because you question her competition. Her American Heritage FL team beat St. Stephens & St. Agnes VA who beat Darien CT who beat Garden City NY and lost to Manhasset NY by 1. That American Heritage team from Florida is legit and you need to open your mind to the fact that great players come from more than just the 516 and 631...

The lunatics don't care. Haters gonna hate. The jealous parents will go on the attack every time a player other than their daughter is recognized as being better than their daughter.

They do it during the recruiting process, they do it during club team tryouts, They do it when the School girl teams are selected, they do it when Inside Lacrosse puts out their player rankings, they do it when UA Underclass Teams are selected, they do it after UA Seniors are announced , they do it all the time. This is just another example.
Congratulations to the player and her parents for earning MVP at School Girls.

The just can't admit that another player is better than their daughter. There is always an excuse.

What was the excuse for li metro not winning the top division? [/

LI Metro did win!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

The horse is dead, move on!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

So it appears in Nassau that teams outside the Power Conference really fall off a cliff with talent and depth. Just look at the playoff scores. Teams that had great seasons in the lower divisions are getting rocked. When will Suffolk follow suit and give the weaker teams a break?

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS, IT'S PLAYOFF TIME ON LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the LI teams at the schoolgirls national tournament this weekend taking 1 and 2nd. That said ridiculous how US lacrosse is promoting the superstar from down south . The MVP of the tournament was from a non compete lower division , have never seen that before , and is absolutely ridiculous .

Wow. Sour grapes much. She’s the mvp because she is by far the best player yhetr

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .

I'll draw a few lines for you, not perfect but worth a discussion because you question her competition. Her American Heritage FL team beat St. Stephens & St. Agnes VA who beat Darien CT who beat Garden City NY and lost to Manhasset NY by 1. That American Heritage team from Florida is legit and you need to open your mind to the fact that great players come from more than just the 516 and 631...

The lunatics don't care. Haters gonna hate. The jealous parents will go on the attack every time a player other than their daughter is recognized as being better than their daughter.

They do it during the recruiting process, they do it during club team tryouts, They do it when the School girl teams are selected, they do it when Inside Lacrosse puts out their player rankings, they do it when UA Underclass Teams are selected, they do it after UA Seniors are announced , they do it all the time. This is just another example.
Congratulations to the player and her parents for earning MVP at School Girls.

The just can't admit that another player is better than their daughter. There is always an excuse.

What was the excuse for li metro not winning the top division?

No excuse, they did win the top division.

"What was the excuse for li metro not winning the top division?"

The excuse is you are a stunad.

No sour grapes, the award has never gone to a player in the lower level non play off brackets . Best player in country is laughable , the kid would be a good player on LI . US lacrosse is trying to promote the sport which is all it is . Congrats to YJ on having another one of their players winning the award .[/quote]

I'll draw a few lines for you, not perfect but worth a discussion because you question her competition. Her American Heritage FL team beat St. Stephens & St. Agnes VA who beat Darien CT who beat Garden City NY and lost to Manhasset NY by 1. That American Heritage team from Florida is legit and you need to open your mind to the fact that great players come from more than just the 516 and 631...[/quote]

The lunatics don't care. Haters gonna hate. The jealous parents will go on the attack every time a player other than their daughter is recognized as being better than their daughter.

They do it during the recruiting process, they do it during club team tryouts, They do it when the School girl teams are selected, they do it when Inside Lacrosse puts out their player rankings, they do it when UA Underclass Teams are selected, they do it after UA Seniors are announced , they do it all the time. This is just another example.
Congratulations to the player and her parents for earning MVP at School Girls.

The just can't admit that another player is better than their daughter. There is always an excuse.

[/quote]

What was the excuse for li metro not winning the top division? [/quote]

Are you really this ignorant?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

Agree , The Under Armour Tournament is the most competitive HS tournament out there. School girls is good but not the same. Lots of great players out there congratulations to all who make the team and congrats to the MVP.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

They cry politics on everything. Recruiting , Club Team, School Girl, Under Armour you name it. Logic and reason are thrown out the windo as is reality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we talk about Counties coming up? Mattituck vs Babylon tonight. Any predictions for Thursday?

No surprise in Mattituck over Babylon, defense holds their leading scorer to 1 point.
I'm routing for West Islip over Northport, I think West Babylon has what it needs for win against ESM and Mt Sinai over Westhampton.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]who will be Wantagh's coach next year?

Why do you say that?

A YJ coach will be on the move to a lacrosse town after striking out at one that's not

Only problem, wantagh isnt a lacrosse town anymore. they had a nice run though.

County Finals
Wantagh vs CSH. Not a bad run for a non lacrosse town. Winning the finals last season and in the finals again this year.

Who exactly did Wantagh beat to get to the championship game??? Nobody

Let it go already you obviously have an axe to grind with Wantagh. They have exceeded expectations regardless of what happens in the final.

Really, back to back finals and this stunad questions Wantagh lacrosse.

Bad team in a bad conference, lets stop with the BS about making it to county championship, embarrassed doesn't begin to describe Wantagh lacrosse tonight

Why do we even play the regular season in Nassau? CSH, Manhasset, Garden City all there again at the end....Congratulations. NO surprise that the teams that have deep rosters because they share the ball keep beating up on teams that run everything through a few players. I cant ever recall a Newsday top scorer from any of these teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do we even play the regular season in Nassau? CSH, Manhasset, Garden City all there again at the end....Congratulations. NO surprise that the teams that have deep rosters because they share the ball keep beating up on teams that run everything through a few players. I cant ever recall a Newsday top scorer from any of these teams

I don't care if my daughters team wins. As long as my daughter scores 3 or 4 goals I am happy. Who cares if she takes 14 shots? Certainly not the coach... Who cares if she is detriment to the team? Not the coach... Scoring goals is all that matters. My daughters coach doesn't stop her from going to the goal so it must be okay. There are a couple of other players who also try to force their way to goal and the coach says nothing to them either. I guess it is all good. What I can't figure out is why we never make it to the county finals... forget about winning a championship we can't even get to the finals. I just don't understand it, I think they need to get the ball to my daughter more so she can shoot more.

GC v Manhasset will be a good one tonight! True that generally never see a top scorer from these teams..wish we could see one of these teams up play northport or mt sinai...

For the guy constantly bashing Wantagh Girls Lacrosse

Let's be honest...you are

- Not a CSH parent/fan because they are too classy and would not stoop this low. They are a very good team that improved as the year progressed. They lost to this terrible Wantagh team albeit it was very early in the season. I wish them luck against the Suffolk C champs and I think they can win it all.

- Another C level team parent/fan that is not that good and can never get past the C level Power Conference schools (CSH, NS, and Wantagh).

- More than likely a Wantagh parent/fan...a typical - whose kid gets no playing time or perhaps did not make the varsity this year even though more than a handful of 9th graders made it due to lack of depth. Of course they were embarrassed last night because they expect more out of themselves and did not want to let the program down. I looked back (5) years and see they have been five time semi-finalists, four time finalist (two in B and two in C), two time Nassau County Champs (one in B and one in C), They have quite a few girls that are playing D1 lacrosse so stop being a keyboard cowboy and take little Susie to the wall a few more times so she can improve and maybe get on the field this way all us fans can get to hear you yell "Go to goal"...

Carle Place girls would beat either one of them....would be a good game, but Frogs prevail in end...and they will prove it against Mattituck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do we even play the regular season in Nassau? CSH, Manhasset, Garden City all there again at the end....Congratulations. NO surprise that the teams that have deep rosters because they share the ball keep beating up on teams that run everything through a few players. I cant ever recall a Newsday top scorer from any of these teams

I don't care if my daughters team wins. As long as my daughter scores 3 or 4 goals I am happy. Who cares if she takes 14 shots? Certainly not the coach... Who cares if she is detriment to the team? Not the coach... Scoring goals is all that matters. My daughters coach doesn't stop her from going to the goal so it must be okay. There are a couple of other players who also try to force their way to goal and the coach says nothing to them either. I guess it is all good. What I can't figure out is why we never make it to the county finals... forget about winning a championship we can't even get to the finals. I just don't understand it, I think they need to get the ball to my daughter more so she can shoot more.

Funny but true. The parents on our team are more worried about points and padding that college resume than ever winning the counties. Selfish teams with selfish players and their get recruited at all cost parents never seem to win. Great to see JMU win it all without a single LI scorer. It's a beautiful game when that ball gets spread around and it starts in PAL

Not only did LI Metro 1 take the top division , they played LI Metro 2 in the championships. Both teams did very well in the top division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do we even play the regular season in Nassau? CSH, Manhasset, Garden City all there again at the end....Congratulations. NO surprise that the teams that have deep rosters because they share the ball keep beating up on teams that run everything through a few players. I cant ever recall a Newsday top scorer from any of these teams

I don't care if my daughters team wins. As long as my daughter scores 3 or 4 goals I am happy. Who cares if she takes 14 shots? Certainly not the coach... Who cares if she is detriment to the team? Not the coach... Scoring goals is all that matters. My daughters coach doesn't stop her from going to the goal so it must be okay. There are a couple of other players who also try to force their way to goal and the coach says nothing to them either. I guess it is all good. What I can't figure out is why we never make it to the county finals... forget about winning a championship we can't even get to the finals. I just don't understand it, I think they need to get the ball to my daughter more so she can shoot more.

Funny but true. The parents on our team are more worried about points and padding that college resume than ever winning the counties. Selfish teams with selfish players and their get recruited at all cost parents never seem to win. Great to see JMU win it all without a single LI scorer. It's a beautiful game when that ball gets spread around and it starts in PAL

PAL dad coaches yelling for daughter to "go to goal"...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the
tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

They cry politics on everything. Recruiting , Club Team, School Girl, Under Armour you name it. Logic and reason are thrown out the windo as is reality.

My kid makes essentially all those teams and you are ignorant if you do not feel politics is involved in all these things . The school girls thing was ridiculous , it’s like giving the Tewaaraton to a player who plays in a weak division who never plays a decent team .

Originally Posted by anonomous

Carle Place girls would beat either one of them....would be a good game, but Frogs prevail in end...and they will prove it against Mattituck!

This has to be some pot stiring loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the
tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

They cry politics on everything. Recruiting , Club Team, School Girl, Under Armour you name it. Logic and reason are thrown out the windo as is reality.

My kid makes essentially all those teams and you are ignorant if you do not feel politics is involved in all these things . The school girls thing was ridiculous , it’s like giving the Tewaaraton to a player who plays in a weak division who never plays a decent team .

I guess that you must be connected.

Can GC hire some real coaches now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the

tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

They cry politics on everything. Recruiting , Club Team, School Girl, Under Armour you name it. Logic and reason are thrown out the windo as is reality.

My kid makes essentially all those teams and you are ignorant if you do not feel politics is involved in all these things . The school girls thing was ridiculous , it’s like giving the Tewaaraton to a player who plays in a weak division who never plays a decent team .

I guess that you must be connected.

Yes I am . That said it’s not only politics but it does certainly come into play and you must be ignorant .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the

tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

They cry politics on everything. Recruiting , Club Team, School Girl, Under Armour you name it. Logic and reason are thrown out the windo as is reality.

My kid makes essentially all those teams and you are ignorant if you do not feel politics is involved in all these things . The school girls thing was ridiculous , it’s like giving the Tewaaraton to a player who plays in a weak division who never plays a decent team .

I guess that you must be connected.

Yes I am . That said it’s not only politics but it does certainly come into play and you must be ignorant .

For how many years and on what teams has your daughter stolen the spot from more deserving players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the guy constantly bashing Wantagh Girls Lacrosse

Let's be honest...you are

- Not a CSH parent/fan because they are too classy and would not stoop this low. They are a very good team that improved as the year progressed. They lost to this terrible Wantagh team albeit it was very early in the season. I wish them luck against the Suffolk C champs and I think they can win it all.

- Another C level team parent/fan that is not that good and can never get past the C level Power Conference schools (CSH, NS, and Wantagh).

- More than likely a Wantagh parent/fan...a typical - whose kid gets no playing time or perhaps did not make the varsity this year even though more than a handful of 9th graders made it due to lack of depth. Of course they were embarrassed last night because they expect more out of themselves and did not want to let the program down. I looked back (5) years and see they have been five time semi-finalists, four time finalist (two in B and two in C), two time Nassau County Champs (one in B and one in C), They have quite a few girls that are playing D1 lacrosse so stop being a keyboard cowboy and take little Susie to the wall a few more times so she can improve and maybe get on the field this way all us fans can get to hear you yell "Go to goal"....

I guess the wound is still fresh

looks like northport got caught looking ahead to the LIC!

Wow GC and Wantagh got spanked by Manhasset and CSH not even close. Would have lost that bet.

WB/ESM game was a great game. ESM takes it in OT 8-7. WB got away from their offense by having 2 middies take 95% of the shots. Can't win games if you're attackers don't get any touches. Good luck to ESM on Sunday against Manhasset

YJ lost to TG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

looks like northport got caught looking ahead to the LIC!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by anonomous

Carle Place girls would beat either one of them....would be a good game, but Frogs prevail in end...and they will prove it against Mattituck!

This has to be some pot stiring loser.

Ribbitt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

looks like northport got caught looking ahead to the LIC!

Gotta take one game a time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WB/ESM game was a great game. ESM takes it in OT 8-7. WB got away from their offense by having 2 middies take 95% of the shots. Can't win games if you're attackers don't get any touches. Good luck to ESM on Sunday against Manhasset

Manhasset will eat them alive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ lost to TG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

looks like northport got caught looking ahead to the LIC!

Sure did. Outplayed every step

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ lost to TG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

looks like northport got caught looking ahead to the LIC!

Sure did. Outplayed every step

Looks like TG sniped the Tewaaraton from YJ as well, bad day all around for CR. Cream rises to the top! Congratulations to Sam Apuzzo, former TG, and the best player in college lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WB/ESM game was a great game. ESM takes it in OT 8-7. WB got away from their offense by having 2 middies take 95% of the shots. Can't win games if you're attackers don't get any touches. Good luck to ESM on Sunday against Manhasset

Manhasset will eat them alive

We shall see!

Tough few weeks for YJ's .

SB and JS lose. JMU wins without any YJ studs. The Teewarten goes to a Top Gun. And Northport falters in a year when it should have been theirs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WB/ESM game was a great game. ESM takes it in OT 8-7. WB got away from their offense by having 2 middies take 95% of the shots. Can't win games if you're attackers don't get any touches. Good luck to ESM on Sunday against Manhasset

Manhasset will eat them alive

Looks like it will be Liberty girls against YJ girls - should be interesting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. The girl that won MVP is without question the best 2020 in the country. You LI folks should be familiar with her as she is listed as YJ commit to Syracuse on their website. She moved to Florida a couple years ago. Why are you hating on a 16 year old girl? She also dominated at the UA Underclass last summer. Guess there’s no competition there either?

There was great competition at UA. It is by far the most competitive and prestigious select event there is. She may have dominated her team, but many other players dominated their team as well, and ultimately the

tournament MVP went to the most deserving girl on the winning team. I will say that schoolgirls is also a very prestigious event as well, made up of many/most of all the same girls who played UA, no surprise. It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection. Anyway congrats to the kid for mvp, but I too, like the original poster was surprised by this selection.

They cry politics on everything. Recruiting , Club Team, School Girl, Under Armour you name it. Logic and reason are thrown out the windo as is reality.

My kid makes essentially all those teams and you are ignorant if you do not feel politics is involved in all these things . The school girls thing was ridiculous , it’s like giving the Tewaaraton to a player who plays in a weak division who never plays a decent team .

I guess that you must be connected.

Yes I am . That said it’s not only politics but it does certainly come into play and you must be ignorant .

So, politics is okay when it helps your daughter make a team but if politics plays a role in another player receiving an MVP award it is ridiculous?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]WB/ESM game was a great game. ESM takes it in OT 8-7. WB got away from their offense by having 2 middies take 95% of the shots. Can't win games if you're attackers don't get any touches. Good luck to ESM on Sunday against Manhasset

Manhasset will eat them alive

We shall see![/quote

Outside of the D game all the other games are going to to be closely contested. All the teams that are playing are all capable of beating each other on any given day. Regardless of who they play for over the summer, YJ, TG, Liberty, or Elevate, they are all really good lacrosse players.

Good luck to all girls!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

Most of those coaches were not at tryouts. They had different coaches at tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough few weeks for YJ's .

SB and JS lose. JMU wins without any YJ studs. The Teewarten goes to a Top Gun. And Northport falters in a year when it should have been theirs.

Fear the Bee no more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough few weeks for YJ's .

SB and JS lose. JMU wins without any YJ studs. The Teewarten goes to a Top Gun. And Northport falters in a year when it should have been theirs.

Fear the Bee no more

Nobody feared her in the first place. And it was WM year to get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the guy constantly bashing Wantagh Girls Lacrosse

Let's be honest...you are

- Not a CSH parent/fan because they are too classy and would not stoop this low. They are a very good team that improved as the year progressed. They lost to this terrible Wantagh team albeit it was very early in the season. I wish them luck against the Suffolk C champs and I think they can win it all.

- Another C level team parent/fan that is not that good and can never get past the C level Power Conference schools (CSH, NS, and Wantagh).

- More than likely a Wantagh parent/fan...a typical - whose kid gets no playing time or perhaps did not make the varsity this year even though more than a handful of 9th graders made it due to lack of depth. Of course they were embarrassed last night because they expect more out of themselves and did not want to let the program down. I looked back (5) years and see they have been five time semi-finalists, four time finalist (two in B and two in C), two time Nassau County Champs (one in B and one in C), They have quite a few girls that are playing D1 lacrosse so stop being a keyboard cowboy and take little Susie to the wall a few more times so she can improve and maybe get on the field this way all us fans can get to hear you yell "Go to goal"....

CSH parents classy? some of the most obnoxious people that you would ever see at lax game, I've seen many a melt down over the years and btw Wantagh lax is a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

looks like northport got caught looking ahead to the LIC!

Gotta take one game a time

not s surprise, there's only one ball and a bunch of me first kids/parents, Northport hotel rooms upstate are no available!

Why you losers make this a YJ ,TG thing other than an inferiority complex. When Murphy and Ohmiller were setting NCAA records were people on here praising YJ . Honestly do you really want to compare former players from each club and how successful they are in college. Congrats to Apuzzo , congrats to Mattituck, Sinai, ESM, WI .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

You are correct, it is impossible. Many parents are delusional and have no idea what they are talking about. If you brought in the coaches from Maryland , North Carolina , Boston College, James Madison , Princeton , Towson, Stony Brook, Florida, Navy and Northwestern to evaluate the crazy parents would still cry foul when their daughter didn't make the team. Don't you know they get it wrong all the time .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough few weeks for YJ's .

SB and JS lose. JMU wins without any YJ studs. The Teewarten goes to a Top Gun. And Northport falters in a year when it should have been theirs.

Fear the Bee no more

Nobody feared her in the first place. And it was WM year to get it.

Let me guess, it was the WM coach’s fault?
YJ is in the same exact position today as they were 5 years ago, 10 years ago... they without question, field the best teams from LI, top teams are top1-5 in the nation, competing mainly with the MD teams. Same as always.

Is there only an All County Dinner this year for high schol girls?

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Originally Posted by lax101

Is there only an All County Dinner this year for high schol girls?

Awards dinner are for All American, HM All American, All County , HM All County & All Conference

On a side note;
Does anyone know how The fl$ Girls Showcase was today and how many Colleges were there (x amount of D1, x # of D2 & x # of D3)? I heard they use to get 320+ kids but they only had 230? Can Anyone provide insight?
Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI game?

Mattituck/WI/Manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI game?

West Islip WON 6-5 in DOUBLE OT

Manhasset WON 11-10 in DOUBLE OT

CSH WON in DOUBLE OT

and Mattituck blew out CP - no surprise there 16-5 (they need to do something about the D conference as Nassau will never be competitive there

Mattituck won easily. West islip won in 2OT, 6-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI
West Islip won in double
Ot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]WB/ESM game was a great game. ESM takes it in OT 8-7. WB got away from their offense by having 2 middies take 95% of the shots. Can't win games if you're attackers don't get any touches. Good luck to ESM on Sunday against Manhasset

Manhasset will eat them alive

We shall see![/quote

Outside of the D game all the other games are going to to be closely contested. All the teams that are playing are all capable of beating each other on any given day. Regardless of who they play for over the summer, YJ, TG, Liberty, or Elevate, they are all really good lacrosse players.

Good luck to all girls!!!!!

As I said, couldn’t have asked for any closer games than 3 double overtime games. Some great athletes on the field yesterday. Too bad those games were just to get off the island. Good luck to those going to states and hats off to those that came so close. You had great seasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

You are correct, it is impossible. Many parents are delusional and have no idea what they are talking about. If you brought in the coaches from Maryland , North Carolina , Boston College, James Madison , Princeton , Towson, Stony Brook, Florida, Navy and Northwestern to evaluate the crazy parents would still cry foul when their daughter didn't make the team. Don't you know they get it wrong all the time .

Both Under Armour and School Girls are excellent events but Under Armour is more competitive. My older daughter played in both tournaments and the level of play at the Under Armour Underclass event was much
higher and the competition was more intense (At the time UA Underclass had only one division). It was by far the most competitive High School lacrosse games my daughter played in.

Was the selection process perfect? No, there were a few girls left off the roster who were just as strong as the girls who made the team but there were no girls (that made it) who didn't belong on the team. 22 of the 24 girls on that team just completed there freshman or sophomore year in college (two are still in HS). The large majority of those girls are excelling at the college level at many of the top programs (Stony Brook, Florida, North Carolina, Penn State, Syracuse, Richmond, USC, UMass). I believe a few have been working through injuries.

The complainers can whine all they want about politics and how the selection process is rigged but the results do not lie. For the most part, the players who are selected to these teams are also the same players who were offered spots by the best college programs and many more times than not those players go on to star at their respective schools.

Some parents will always have an excuse as to why their daughter wasn't selected or recognized or why they didn't receive offers from Maryland, North Carolina, Northwestern, Boston College etc... There will always be an excuse and they will always say it is all political.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI game?

West Islip WON 6-5 in DOUBLE OT

Manhasset WON 11-10 in DOUBLE OT

CSH WON in DOUBLE OT

and Mattituck blew out CP - no surprise there 16-5 (they need to do something about the D conference as Nassau will never be competitive there

Mattituck/Southhold may be moving up to Class C next year as the state is changing the way enrollment is calculated of combined school districts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI game?

West Islip WON 6-5 in DOUBLE OT

Manhasset WON 11-10 in DOUBLE OT

CSH WON in DOUBLE OT

and Mattituck blew out CP - no surprise there 16-5 (they need to do something about the D conference as Nassau will never be competitive there

Mattituck/Southhold may be moving up to Class C next year as the state is changing the way enrollment is calculated of combined school districts.

West Islip will be in B next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI game?

West Islip WON 6-5 in DOUBLE OT

Manhasset WON 11-10 in DOUBLE OT

CSH WON in DOUBLE OT

and Mattituck blew out CP - no surprise there 16-5 (they need to do something about the D conference as Nassau will never be competitive there

Mattituck/Southhold may be moving up to Class C next year as the state is changing the way enrollment is calculated of combined school districts.

No.
West Islip will be in B next year.

No. The following year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cold Spring Harbor 13 - Mt. Sinai 12 in 2 OT

Anyone know about the Mattituck/CP game and the Massapequa/WI game?

West Islip WON 6-5 in DOUBLE OT

Manhasset WON 11-10 in DOUBLE OT

CSH WON in DOUBLE OT

and Mattituck blew out CP - no surprise there 16-5 (they need to do something about the D conference as Nassau will never be competitive there

Mattituck/Southhold may be moving up to Class C next year as the state is changing the way enrollment is calculated of combined school districts.

No.
West Islip will be in B next year.

No. The following year

for 2018/19 WI enrollment will be 1060 placing them in B where enrollment is 790-1074

West Islip will be in B next year.[/quote]
No. The following year
[/quote]
for 2018/19 WI enrollment will be 1060 placing them in B where enrollment is 790-1074 [/quote]

Ooof...Long Island Class B won't get any easier... Also.. pretty crazy how deep Nassau County Conference 1 is.. has to be the best group of teams in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will be in B next year.

No. The following year
[/quote]
for 2018/19 WI enrollment will be 1060 placing them in B where enrollment is 790-1074 [/quote]

Ooof...Long Island Class B won't get any easier... Also.. pretty crazy how deep Nassau County Conference 1 is.. has to be the best group of teams in the country.[/quote]

Maybe the universe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will be in B next year.

No. The following year

for 2018/19 WI enrollment will be 1060 placing them in B where enrollment is 790-1074 [/quote]

Ooof...Long Island Class B won't get any easier... Also.. pretty crazy how deep Nassau County Conference 1 is.. has to be the best group of teams in the country.[/quote]

Maybe the universe.
[/quote]

Hope your enjoying life in Shirley =)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will be in B next year.

No. The following year

for 2018/19 WI enrollment will be 1060 placing them in B where enrollment is 790-1074

Ooof...Long Island Class B won't get any easier... Also.. pretty crazy how deep Nassau County Conference 1 is.. has to be the best group of teams in the country.[/quote]

Maybe the universe.
[/quote]

Hope your enjoying life in Shirley =)[/quote]

Since Shirley is your wife....yes I am enjoying her. Too bad you cant.....ED a problem

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent, whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent, whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

She has zero idea how the teams from LI are chosen and by whom . That said arguably her best defender and 4 year starter was a regular on the school girl and USteams so I guess she was undeserving . You want to deal in nonsense instead of facts .Gutless losers like you say the same nonsense every year but never actually point to any player who should have made a team but did not due to politics .Schoolgirls this year teams 1 and 2 from LI made the championship game w team 1 winning .Last year I believe it was a clean sweep at UA for the LI teams . If what you are saying were true those things would not happen . “Their players competition on the recruiting circuit” What the what .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will be in B next year.

No. The following year
[/quote]
for 2018/19 WI enrollment will be

Maybe the universe.
[/quote]
Hope your enjoying life in Shirley =)[/quote]

Be honest.. how many rolls of that slob of yours do u have to lift UP to go down.. summer has to pretty embarrassing for you both..enjoy Walmart =). P.s. good luck Marist..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent, whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

She has zero idea how the teams from LI are chosen and by whom . That said arguably her best defender and 4 year starter was a regular on the school girl and USteams so I guess she was undeserving . You want to deal in nonsense instead of facts .Gutless losers like you say the same nonsense every year but never actually point to any player who should have made a team but did not due to politics .Schoolgirls this year teams 1 and 2 from LI made the championship game w team 1 winning .Last year I believe it was a clean sweep at UA for the LI teams . If what you are saying were true those things would not happen . “Their players competition on the recruiting circuit” What the what .

"I'm rubber. You're glue. Insults bounce off me and stick to you." I figured you could relate to that kind of immaturity better than any rational thought. Since you think you know more than a D1 coach, you must be some kind of LI lacrosse guru. Do you have the courage to reveal your identity? Didn't think so...bye bye.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent, whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

You sound reasonable and I am not the person who called you a loser. However, I do believe most people including coaches have their own agenda. Take a look a last years Under Armour All-Americans (North Roster).

Here is the breakdown of the schools the players went to. I am guessing they are all very good players. Many of the players that I am familiar with did in fact do very well this past season as freshman.

North Carolina - 4
Syracuse - 3
Boston College - 2
Princeton - 2
Northwestern - 2
USC - 2
Duke - 2
Florida - 2
Penn State - 2
Penn - 1
Virginia - 1
Loyola - 1
Notre Dame - 1

It is safe to assume that the reason those schools are some of the best lacrosse programs in the country is because they consistently bring in the best recruits in the country.

When schools like: Albany, Bucknell, Cornell, Drexlel, Elon, Fairfield, George Mason, High Point, Jacksonville, Kennesaw State, Lafayette, and Marist start competing with the schools listed above on a regular basis I will take the coach seriously.

When the evaluators are selecting the same kids that the the top college programs are selecting I would not be so quick to assume it is simply because of where the player is committed (or due to politics). It just might be because the player is really good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent, whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

She has zero idea how the teams from LI are chosen and by whom . That said arguably her best defender and 4 year starter was a regular on the school girl and USteams so I guess she was undeserving . You want to deal in nonsense instead of facts .Gutless losers like you say the same nonsense every year but never actually point to any player who should have made a team but did not due to politics .Schoolgirls this year teams 1 and 2 from LI made the championship game w team 1 winning .Last year I believe it was a clean sweep at UA for the LI teams . If what you are saying were true those things would not happen . “Their players competition on the recruiting circuit” What the what .

"I'm rubber. You're glue. Insults bounce off me and stick to you." I figured you could relate to that kind of immaturity better than any rational thought. Since you think you know more than a D1 coach, you must be some kind of LI lacrosse guru. Do you have the courage to reveal your identity? Didn't think so...bye bye.

If you are going to ask someone to reveal their identity to show their courage while you are posting anonymously it comes across as kind of silly . We get it , your kid got cut even thou she is better than some other kid that made the team .Good luck to your poor kid in college because there are plenty of things to blame when she does not get as much playing time as you believe she should get or plays a position you don’t like etc etc .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived
as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent,
whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

She has zero idea how the teams from LI are chosen and by whom . That said arguably her best defender and 4 year starter was a regular on the school girl and USteams so I guess she was undeserving . You want to deal in nonsense instead of facts .Gutless losers like you say the same nonsense every year but never actually point to any player who should have made a team but did not due to politics .Schoolgirls this year teams 1 and 2 from LI made the championship game w team 1 winning .Last year I believe it was a clean sweep at UA for the LI teams . If what you are saying were true those things would not happen . “Their players competition on the recruiting circuit” What the what .

"I'm rubber. You're glue. Insults bounce off me and stick to you." I figured you could relate to that kind of immaturity better than any rational thought. Since you think you know more than a D1 coach, you must be some kind of LI lacrosse guru. Do you have the courage to reveal your identity? Didn't think so...bye bye.

Yet somehow you know more than the D1 coaches that have recruited these players you feel made these teams thru politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent, whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

You sound reasonable and I am not the person who called you a loser. However, I do believe most people including coaches have their own agenda. Take a look a last years Under Armour All-Americans (North Roster).

Here is the breakdown of the schools the players went to. I am guessing they are all very good players. Many of the players that I am familiar with did in fact do very well this past season as freshman.

North Carolina - 4
Syracuse - 3
Boston College - 2
Princeton - 2
Northwestern - 2
USC - 2
Duke - 2
Florida - 2
Penn State - 2
Penn - 1
Virginia - 1
Loyola - 1
Notre Dame - 1

It is safe to assume that the reason those schools are some of the best lacrosse programs in the country is because they consistently bring in the best recruits in the country.

When schools like: Albany, Bucknell, Cornell, Drexlel, Elon, Fairfield, George Mason, High Point, Jacksonville, Kennesaw State, Lafayette, and Marist start competing with the schools listed above on a regular basis I will take the coach seriously.

When the evaluators are selecting the same kids that the the top college programs are selecting I would not be so quick to assume it is simply because of where the player is committed (or due to politics). It just might be because the player is really good.

No JMU?...hmmm

I thought it was West Islip's year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It is funny how so many people cry politics on these select tryout events, yet it is many of the same girls selected from two completely different events with zero common connection.

Many of the same "impartial" people are involved with selection for UA and School Girls. The same clubs are represented and very often take care of their own, whether picking their player or not picking someone perceived as their player's competition on the recruiting circuit.

Here are the School Girls coaches for 2018. All these people were evaluators...

LI Metro 1: Matthew Maloney (Mattituck) & Steve Levy (East Islip /LEGACY)
LI Metro 2: Mary Bergmann (Westhampton) & Thomas Carro (Suffolk CC/YJ)
LI Metro 3: John Geagan (Mercy) & David Kotowski (Holy Trinity/ELEVATE)

You really are a loser. "Their player's competition on the recruiting circuit " may be the funniest thing I have seen. Don't know all of the coaches but here are some factual examples of why what you are saying is nonsense. Maloney , well of the 5 players who went to the tryout from Mattituck it looks like 2 made a team, as Mattituck is a decent team not exactly taking care of his own. Steve Levy , well his own child was cut from any team and she is easily good enough to play so again taking care of his own seems like nonsense. Bergman , again had none of her players on the top team and had one who was on top team last year but team 3 this year , again does not seem like taking care of her own. Carro had 1 of his YJ players on top team which honestly seems low for 1 of the if not the top 2019 team on LI.
There are a lot more examples but convincing people that have kids that were cut that politics may come into play its not all politics is impossible.

I'm the original poster, and in spite of your name calling, not a loser.

If you don't want to hear what I have to say, how about D1 Head Coach Mindy McCord? Here are her timely tweets from yesterday:
(@JUwomenslax 7:16 p.m. 6/3/18)
"Some tryouts are decided based on what brand name school a kid has already committed to or who is their HS coach/runs the tryout. It's all brand name economics & does not address the real needs of a young player. It benefits the HS/Club coach's rep. Think deeper than a logo."
(@JUwomenslax 7:35 p.m. 6/3/18)
"You think that by making a team at a tryout that you will gain some recruiting advantage, but the 19/20 kids selected have already committed & selectors pick the ones that provide their all-star game the most notoriety at the moment. Doesn't benefit aspiring players at all."

My daughter will continue to play her heart out against any opponent, whether some "committee" filled with conflict$ of intere$t thinks she's worthy of their recognition or not. Don't bother calling my daughter a loser either, because she does not value an ignorant opinion. She knows her worth and things will turn out just fine for her.

There are some girls who are the obvious choices at a tryout - they just draw your eye and you know they are special. Then there are a lot of girls who are very similar in skill, speed, style. In my opinion, this is where the "politics" comes into play. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I suppose.

Good luck to all the girls in their recruiting process. May they find their "right fit" school with the proper sport/academic balance for them and may they all enjoy the great sport of lacrosse for as long as they possibly can.

You sound reasonable and I am not the person who called you a loser. However, I do believe most people including coaches have their own agenda. Take a look a last years Under Armour All-Americans (North Roster).

Here is the breakdown of the schools the players went to. I am guessing they are all very good players. Many of the players that I am familiar with did in fact do very well this past season as freshman.

North Carolina - 4
Syracuse - 3
Boston College - 2
Princeton - 2
Northwestern - 2
USC - 2
Duke - 2
Florida - 2
Penn State - 2
Penn - 1
Virginia - 1
Loyola - 1
Notre Dame - 1

It is safe to assume that the reason those schools are some of the best lacrosse programs in the country is because they consistently bring in the best recruits in the country.

When schools like: Albany, Bucknell, Cornell, Drexlel, Elon, Fairfield, George Mason, High Point, Jacksonville, Kennesaw State, Lafayette, and Marist start competing with the schools listed above on a regular basis I will take the coach seriously.

When the evaluators are selecting the same kids that the the top college programs are selecting I would not be so quick to assume it is simply because of where the player is committed (or due to politics). It just might be because the player is really good.

No JMU?...hmmm

JMU had a great year and although they are a competitive program they are not consistently a Top 20 Team. JMU consistently plays a tough non-conference schedule Vs teams like Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia, Penn State etc... JMU is a good program and maybe going forward they will be great.

The schools listed above (not sure about USC) have consistently finished the season ranked in the Top 20 for at least the past 5 -7 years. They are the best programs because year in and year out they bring in the best players.

Where can you get a list of All County and All League players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can you get a list of All County and All League players?

At the banquet .

So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?

Um ND never had a #1 recruiting class or hasn't for many years. Your ND bias is showing.😑 Every year a school is gonna have a top recruit or several that they are going to focus on and most likely will play a lot. But one player can't do everything. Only one team is gonna win it all. And who knows these top players could have helped their teams to be better than they would have been without them. And some coaches don't know how to work with what they have no matter who it is. Like Florida or USC...

Well BC will prob have the #1 recruiting class this fall. Let’s see how they do. How much they play and contribute.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?

I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .

anyone want to take a stab at next years Nassau power conference teams while its still top of mind? I cant see any of the teams that won big playing a cupcake schedule below asking to move up, but will any existing power conference team ask to move down? I think we saw in the playoffs that teams that weren't in the power conference weren't competitive in the playoffs.

I can see Oceanside dropping out and perhaps Farmingdale coming back in. I do not see any other B or C teams moving up.

Also, CSH up 16-8 in semi against Jamesville-Dewitt very late in game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can see Oceanside dropping out and perhaps Farmingdale coming back in. I do not see any other B or C teams moving up.

Also, CSH up 16-8 in semi against Jamesville-Dewitt very late in game

Farmingdale didn't do great down below and typically they never shy away from competition I could see them or Southside going up. The top3 Locust Valley Plainedge Seaford would get crushed and like winning so I don't see them going but Oceanside had a really tough 0-fer season so they should be on way down to regroup

Conf A is Brutal.. not sure anyone would volunteer.. but SouthSide & the Dalers seem reasonable. Both decent lacrosse towns..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?

I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .

If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?

I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .

If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players

The majority of top recruits do pan out. The majority of top recruits at the top programs do not stop playing.

Take a look at this years freshman class the majority of top recruits were impact players at powerhouse programs.

I know many of you want these young women to fail but the reality is the majority of the top recruits go on to have successful college careers.

Let me reframe the question...I would say 50% of the early recruits (those that committed in 8th and 9th grade) have panned out by 12th grade, then the number four years from now will be substantially lower. So of these will 25% still be strong players in college as they graduate? Maybe that is the expectation. And will that be a lower percentage than the girls coming up with later recruiting rules? Will the girls recruited earlier have higher transfer rates than the girls who commit later?

I am somewhat leading the argument...I believe later recruiting is better and more accurate. The best player on our hs team was a little under the radar as a 9th grader. She is going D1 to a mid-major lacrosse school, although a great academic school...it will work out well for this girl. However if she came up with today’s recruiting rules, she would be looking at Ivy League and Stanford as well as the top level lacrosse schools. So as we watch these transition years from early recruiting to 11th grade recruiting what do people think is better?

Does anyone know why the classification is different for girls than it is for boys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me reframe the question...I would say 50% of the early recruits (those that committed in 8th and 9th grade) have panned out by 12th grade, then the number four years from now will be substantially lower. So of these will 25% still be strong players in college as they graduate? Maybe that is the expectation. And will that be a lower percentage than the girls coming up with later recruiting rules? Will the girls recruited earlier have higher transfer rates than the girls who commit later?

I am somewhat leading the argument...I believe later recruiting is better and more accurate. The best player on our hs team was a little under the radar as a 9th grader. She is going D1 to a mid-major lacrosse school, although a great academic school...it will work out well for this girl. However if she came up with today’s recruiting rules, she would be looking at Ivy League and Stanford as well as the top level lacrosse schools. So as we watch these transition years from early recruiting to 11th grade recruiting what do people think is better?

You are jealous and bitter. You are not leading anything . If your daughter was as strong as you think she would have been picked up by a better program. If your daughter had excellent grades and was also an excellent player she could have gone to an Ivy or Stanford .

You are the only one who thinks she is all that.

Depends on the overall total number of schools that participate in the sport

Lacrosse is the easiest pathway to play a sport in college especially on the girls side. More and more colleges are adding the sport every year and anyone that watches the college game knows that outside of the top 30 or so the talent level is average. The top schools are all targeting the top players because there aren't that many of them. At the D2 and D3 level again except for the very top lax schools the sport is almost a walk on. Just enjoy the ride. Look in the mirror, its ok if your kid wasn't born as a top 5 percenter. the bottom 95% of college players are doing great! Playing while getting a degree

Oh that stat about only 50% of college players playing all 4 years is spot on so enjoy it while you can!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?

I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .

If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players

The majority of top recruits do pan out. The majority of top recruits at the top programs do not stop playing.

Take a look at this years freshman class the majority of top recruits were impact players at powerhouse programs.

I know many of you want these young women to fail but the reality is the majority of the top recruits go on to have successful college careers.

this is just not true. Looking at the 2015 class, out of the top 50players, maybe 5 panned out to be truly top players. If anyone can come up wit more, prove it.

Nice to see the 3 long island girls teams that won states did it with balanced scoring and played a team game. Many other teams can take a closer look at playing a team game and having better results. Are you paying attention West Babylon Coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice to see the 3 long island girls teams that won states did it with balanced scoring and played a team game. Many other teams can take a closer look at playing a team game and having better results. Are you paying attention West Babylon Coach?

West Islip coach?

Congratulations to all the girls this year.

Long Island has a lot to be proud of with its teams accomplishments especially the three state champs that were crowned this weekend!!!

Class B Champions Manhasset (sec 8) 6-4 over Brighton

Class C Champions Cold Spring Harbor (sec 8) 16-3 over Honeoye Falls-Lima

Class D Champions Mattituck-Southhold (sec 11) 12-1 over Bronxville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice to see the 3 long island girls teams that won states did it with balanced scoring and played a team game. Many other teams can take a closer look at playing a team game and having better results. Are you paying attention West Babylon Coach?

West Islip coach?

can you not read?

Did anyone see some of the State Tournament games? Crazy semi-final game for Mattituck. Almost gave all the Long Island fans a heart attack to end the game. Good for you Mattituck!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me reframe the question...I would say 50% of the early recruits (those that committed in 8th and 9th grade) have panned out by 12th grade, then the number four years from now will be substantially lower. So of these will 25% still be strong players in college as they graduate? Maybe that is the expectation. And will that be a lower percentage than the girls coming up with later recruiting rules? Will the girls recruited earlier have higher transfer rates than the girls who commit later?

I am somewhat leading the argument...I believe later recruiting is better and more accurate. The best player on our hs team was a little under the radar as a 9th grader. She is going D1 to a mid-major lacrosse school, although a great academic school...it will work out well for this girl. However if she came up with today’s recruiting rules, she would be looking at Ivy League and Stanford as well as the top level lacrosse schools. So as we watch these transition years from early recruiting to 11th grade recruiting what do people think is better?

Of course the new rules for recruiting are better for everyone, the players the coaches and the parents. The race to land an 8th-9th grader is a pure gamble and you can see many misses evident by junior or senior year. It’s a crappy position for a coach and even worse for the player. Think about the player who took the offer as a top recruit in 8-9th only to have the rest of the pool catch up and/or surpass them, and yes this is more common than not. That is a lot of baggage to be starting a college career with. Junior year opens recruiting is definitely better for all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me reframe the question...I would say 50% of the early recruits (those that committed in 8th and 9th grade) have panned out by 12th grade, then the number four years from now will be substantially lower. So of these will 25% still be strong players in college as they graduate? Maybe that is the expectation. And will that be a lower percentage than the girls coming up with later recruiting rules? Will the girls recruited earlier have higher transfer rates than the girls who commit later?

I am somewhat leading the argument...I believe later recruiting is better and more accurate. The best player on our hs team was a little under the radar as a 9th grader. She is going D1 to a mid-major lacrosse school, although a great academic school...it will work out well for this girl. However if she came up with today’s recruiting rules, she would be looking at Ivy League and Stanford as well as the top level lacrosse schools. So as we watch these transition years from early recruiting to 11th grade recruiting what do people think is better?

Of course the new rules for recruiting are better for everyone, the players the coaches and the parents. The race to land an 8th-9th grader is a pure gamble and you can see many misses evident by junior or senior year. It’s a crappy position for a coach and even worse for the player. Think about the player who took the offer as a top recruit in 8-9th only to have the rest of the pool catch up and/or surpass them, and yes this is more common than not. That is a lot of baggage to be starting a college career with. Junior year opens recruiting is definitely better for all.

You people are truly miserable . Same people who will be saying that "they will never see the field" or " they are getting no money so why wouldn't the coach let them commit" when the future juniors commit. Many of these early commits were proving their worth playing at the varsity level as 8th and 9th graders and those kids are still for the most part excellent players , 3 of the 4 teams in the NCAA final 4 are known as some of the earliest recruiters out there. You just come across as jealous and ignorant of the facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?

I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .

If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players

The majority of top recruits do pan out. The majority of top recruits at the top programs do not stop playing.

Take a look at this years freshman class the majority of top recruits were impact players at powerhouse programs.

I know many of you want these young women to fail but the reality is the majority of the top recruits go on to have successful college careers.

this is just not true. Looking at the 2015 class, out of the top 50players, maybe 5 panned out to be truly top players. If anyone can come up wit more, prove it.

Here is the truth.

Out of the top 58 players from the HS class of 2015 the large majority are major contributors (start and or play in just about every game) for their current college team.

14 of the Top 58 players were on the U19 US National Team (The ultimate honor for a HS player).

44 of the Top 58 players were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors which is generally considered the highest HS accolade a player can receive.

47 of the 58 are major contributors for their current college teams. Several have received post season honors, some are Team Captains and the majority play for the top programs in the country.

There are 3 - 5 girls who have had major injuries. There have been a few Redshirts.

It looks like 2 or 3 players are not on the roster of the team they originally went to out of HS (not sure if the transferred or if they stopped playing).

1 definite Transfer (BC to Brown).

Not exactly what many of the haters want to hear. The truth and reality are a far cry from what is spewed on here by the jealous, bitter haters.

The large majority of the best HS players go to the Top College Programs. The coaches do not get it wrong very often. The players who make the lists and the teams (School Girls, UA, U19, Inside Lacrosse) are usually the same players that go to the top programs in the country.

Inside Lacrosse, the evaluators for SG and UA, the selection comities for UA Seniors and US U19 and the college coaches at the best programs all identify many of the same players as the "top players".

The majority of the top players will play all four years, the majority will be major contributors, the majority will attend one of the top college programs.

From a position of nothing to be jealous about, from a parent Who had a very heavily recruited 8th grader and 9th grader, it is a very welcomed change, I wish they had done it years ago where I could have benefited. I agree many of the kids will go on to have successfull college lax careers. Is it a nice stroke to your ego to be an early recruit, yes, but I completely get the ridiculousness of it, on both sides of the deal, believe the coaches are relieved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From a position of nothing to be jealous about, from a parent Who had a very heavily recruited 8th grader and 9th grader, it is a very welcomed change, I wish they had done it years ago where I could have benefited. I agree many of the kids will go on to have successfull college lax careers. Is it a nice stroke to your ego to be an early recruit, yes, but I completely get the ridiculousness of it, on both sides of the deal, believe the coaches are relieved.

So why would you let your kid commit early and if they did not do you think they would have gone to another school.

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Here is the truth.

Out of the top 58 players from the HS class of 2015 the large majority are major contributors (start and or play in just about every game) for their current college team.

14 of the Top 58 players were on the U19 US National Team (The ultimate honor for a HS player).

44 of the Top 58 players were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors which is generally considered the highest HS accolade a player can receive.

47 of the 58 are major contributors for their current college teams. Several have received post season honors, some are Team Captains and the majority play for the top programs in the country.

There are 3 - 5 girls who have had major injuries. There have been a few Redshirts.

It looks like 2 or 3 players are not on the roster of the team they originally went to out of HS (not sure if the transferred or if they stopped playing).

1 definite Transfer (BC to Brown).

Not exactly what many of the haters want to hear. The truth and reality are a far cry from what is spewed on here by the jealous, bitter haters.

The large majority of the best HS players go to the Top College Programs. The coaches do not get it wrong very often. The players who make the lists and the teams (School Girls, UA, U19, Inside Lacrosse) are usually the same players that go to the top programs in the country.

Inside Lacrosse, the evaluators for SG and UA, the selection comities for UA Seniors and US U19 and the college coaches at the best programs all identify many of the same players as the "top players".

The majority of the top players will play all four years, the majority will be major contributors, the majority will attend one of the top college programs.[/quote]Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]

Here is the truth.

Out of the top 58 players from the HS class of 2015 the large majority are major contributors (start and or play in just about every game) for their current college team.

14 of the Top 58 players were on the U19 US National Team (The ultimate honor for a HS player).

44 of the Top 58 players were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors which is generally considered the highest HS accolade a player can receive.

47 of the 58 are major contributors for their current college teams. Several have received post season honors, some are Team Captains and the majority play for the top programs in the country.

There are 3 - 5 girls who have had major injuries. There have been a few Redshirts.

It looks like 2 or 3 players are not on the roster of the team they originally went to out of HS (not sure if the transferred or if they stopped playing).

1 definite Transfer (BC to Brown).

Not exactly what many of the haters want to hear. The truth and reality are a far cry from what is spewed on here by the jealous, bitter haters.

The large majority of the best HS players go to the Top College Programs. The coaches do not get it wrong very often. The players who make the lists and the teams (School Girls, UA, U19, Inside Lacrosse) are usually the same players that go to the top programs in the country.

Inside Lacrosse, the evaluators for SG and UA, the selection comities for UA Seniors and US U19 and the college coaches at the best programs all identify many of the same players as the "top players".

The majority of the top players will play all four years, the majority will be major contributors, the majority will attend one of the top college programs.

Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest [/quote]

Another jealous bitter loser. It must be tough going through life being you. Every day must really stink when you realize that all of the people that you root against are doing so well. I really hope that you were smart enough to not pass your negative ways on to your children. It must be a miserable existence you live. I can't imagine how you would be able to live with yourself knowing that you sentenced you children to a lifetime of misery.

All the hate in the world will not help your daughter and it will not alter reality.

I hope you children rise above you and succeed in all that they do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the truth.

Out of the top 58 players from the HS class of 2015 the large majority are major contributors (start and or play in just about every game) for their current college team.

14 of the Top 58 players were on the U19 US National Team (The ultimate honor for a HS player).

44 of the Top 58 players were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors which is generally considered the highest HS accolade a player can receive.

47 of the 58 are major contributors for their current college teams. Several have received post season honors, some are Team Captains and the majority play for the top programs in the country.

There are 3 - 5 girls who have had major injuries. There have been a few Redshirts.

It looks like 2 or 3 players are not on the roster of the team they originally went to out of HS (not sure if the transferred or if they stopped playing).

1 definite Transfer (BC to Brown).

Not exactly what many of the haters want to hear. The truth and reality are a far cry from what is spewed on here by the jealous, bitter haters.

The large majority of the best HS players go to the Top College Programs. The coaches do not get it wrong very often. The players who make the lists and the teams (School Girls, UA, U19, Inside Lacrosse) are usually the same players that go to the top programs in the country.

Inside Lacrosse, the evaluators for SG and UA, the selection comities for UA Seniors and US U19 and the college coaches at the best programs all identify many of the same players as the "top players".

The majority of the top players will play all four years, the majority will be major contributors, the majority will attend one of the top college programs.

Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest [/quote]

Another jealous bitter loser. It must be tough going through life being you. Every day must really stink when you realize that all of the people that you root against are doing so well. I really hope that you were smart enough to not pass your negative ways on to your children. It must be a miserable existence you live. I can't imagine how you would be able to live with yourself knowing that you sentenced you children to a lifetime of misery.

All the hate in the world will not help your daughter and it will not alter reality.

I hope you children rise above you and succeed in all that they do.

[/quote]

Haters gonna hate and they do not want to hear the truth.

The 14 players from the class of 2015 who were selected to represent the United State are doing just fine. 50% have not quit the sport and 50% are not sitting on the bench. 100% are attending excellent schools and doing great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the truth.

Out of the top 58 players from the HS class of 2015 the large majority are major contributors (start and or play in just about every game) for their current college team.

14 of the Top 58 players were on the U19 US National Team (The ultimate honor for a HS player).

44 of the Top 58 players were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors which is generally considered the highest HS accolade a player can receive.

47 of the 58 are major contributors for their current college teams. Several have received post season honors, some are Team Captains and the majority play for the top programs in the country.

There are 3 - 5 girls who have had major injuries. There have been a few Redshirts.

It looks like 2 or 3 players are not on the roster of the team they originally went to out of HS (not sure if the transferred or if they stopped playing).

1 definite Transfer (BC to Brown).

Not exactly what many of the haters want to hear. The truth and reality are a far cry from what is spewed on here by the jealous, bitter haters.

The large majority of the best HS players go to the Top College Programs. The coaches do not get it wrong very often. The players who make the lists and the teams (School Girls, UA, U19, Inside Lacrosse) are usually the same players that go to the top programs in the country.

Inside Lacrosse, the evaluators for SG and UA, the selection comities for UA Seniors and US U19 and the college coaches at the best programs all identify many of the same players as the "top players".

The majority of the top players will play all four years, the majority will be major contributors, the majority will attend one of the top college programs.

Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest [/quote]

Another jealous bitter loser. It must be tough going through life being you. Every day must really stink when you realize that all of the people that you root against are doing so well. I really hope that you were smart enough to not pass your negative ways on to your children. It must be a miserable existence you live. I can't imagine how you would be able to live with yourself knowing that you sentenced you children to a lifetime of misery.

All the hate in the world will not help your daughter and it will not alter reality.

I hope you children rise above you and succeed in all that they do.

[/quote]

Thanks for your concern, now move along.

First 7 goals of CSH semi-final game scored by 7 different players. That's impressive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice to see the 3 long island girls teams that won states did it with balanced scoring and played a team game. Many other teams can take a closer look at playing a team game and having better results. Are you paying attention West Babylon Coach?

West Islip coach?

can you not read?

West Islip coach as well as WB, can you comprehend that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]

Here is the truth.

Out of the top 58 players from the HS class of 2015 the large majority are major contributors (start and or play in just about every game) for their current college team.

14 of the Top 58 players were on the U19 US National Team (The ultimate honor for a HS player).

44 of the Top 58 players were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors which is generally considered the highest HS accolade a player can receive.

47 of the 58 are major contributors for their current college teams. Several have received post season honors, some are Team Captains and the majority play for the top programs in the country.

There are 3 - 5 girls who have had major injuries. There have been a few Redshirts.

It looks like 2 or 3 players are not on the roster of the team they originally went to out of HS (not sure if the transferred or if they stopped playing).

1 definite Transfer (BC to Brown).

Not exactly what many of the haters want to hear. The truth and reality are a far cry from what is spewed on here by the jealous, bitter haters.

The large majority of the best HS players go to the Top College Programs. The coaches do not get it wrong very often. The players who make the lists and the teams (School Girls, UA, U19, Inside Lacrosse) are usually the same players that go to the top programs in the country.

Inside Lacrosse, the evaluators for SG and UA, the selection comities for UA Seniors and US U19 and the college coaches at the best programs all identify many of the same players as the "top players".

The majority of the top players will play all four years, the majority will be major contributors, the majority will attend one of the top college programs.

************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest [/quote]

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The post was in response to the following:

- - - "this is just not true. Looking at the 2015 class, out of the top 50players, maybe 5 panned out to be truly top players. If anyone can come up wit more, prove it." - - -

The 44 Under Armour Senior All-Americans and the 14 players who were selected to represent The United States was the basis for the "Top 58" players from the class of 2015. Inside Lacrosse ranked the Top 30 Seniors in the Class of 2015 and 27 of the Top 30 were selected for Under Armour and/or the U19 US National Team (using IL's Top 30 would have been redundant). BTW, One of the three who was ranked by Inside Lacrosse but was not selected by UA or Team USA earned All-American honors last year at Syracuse. One plays at Duke and the other transferred to a small school and is doing very well. I think the people who do the rankings and the selections know what they are doing (they do not get it wrong very often).

Of the 58 players that we are discussing only about "5" or so do not appear to be major contributors for their college teams.

You can hate all you want but the facts do not lie.

The players who are identified early by the top college programs, Inside Lacrosse, Under Armour, School Girls, Team USA etc... continue to play in college and the large majority start and are major contributors for their teams (most of those teams are consistently ranked in the top 20). Do other girls also do well? yes, some do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the truth.

Out of the top 58 players from the HS class of 2015 the large majority are major contributors (start and or play in just about every game) for their current college team.

14 of the Top 58 players were on the U19 US National Team (The ultimate honor for a HS player).

44 of the Top 58 players were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors which is generally considered the highest HS accolade a player can receive.

47 of the 58 are major contributors for their current college teams. Several have received post season honors, some are Team Captains and the majority play for the top programs in the country.

There are 3 - 5 girls who have had major injuries. There have been a few Redshirts.

It looks like 2 or 3 players are not on the roster of the team they originally went to out of HS (not sure if the transferred or if they stopped playing).

1 definite Transfer (BC to Brown).

Not exactly what many of the haters want to hear. The truth and reality are a far cry from what is spewed on here by the jealous, bitter haters.

The large majority of the best HS players go to the Top College Programs. The coaches do not get it wrong very often. The players who make the lists and the teams (School Girls, UA, U19, Inside Lacrosse) are usually the same players that go to the top programs in the country.

Inside Lacrosse, the evaluators for SG and UA, the selection comities for UA Seniors and US U19 and the college coaches at the best programs all identify many of the same players as the "top players".

The majority of the top players will play all four years, the majority will be major contributors, the majority will attend one of the top college programs.

************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest [/quote]

*************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

The post was in response to the following:

- - - "this is just not true. Looking at the 2015 class, out of the top 50players, maybe 5 panned out to be truly top players. If anyone can come up wit more, prove it." - - -

The 44 Under Armour Senior All-Americans and the 14 players who were selected to represent The United States was the basis for the "Top 58" players from the class of 2015. Inside Lacrosse ranked the Top 30 Seniors in the Class of 2015 and 27 of the Top 30 were selected for Under Armour and/or the U19 US National Team (using IL's Top 30 would have been redundant). BTW, One of the three who was ranked by Inside Lacrosse but was not selected by UA or Team USA earned All-American honors last year at Syracuse. One plays at Duke and the other transferred to a small school and is doing very well. I think the people who do the rankings and the selections know what they are doing (they do not get it wrong very often).

Of the 58 players that we are discussing only about "5" or so do not appear to be major contributors for their college teams.

You can hate all you want but the facts do not lie.

The players who are identified early by the top college programs, Inside Lacrosse, Under Armour, School Girls, Team USA etc... continue to play in college and the large majority start and are major contributors for their teams (most of those teams are consistently ranked in the top 20). Do other girls also do well? yes, some do.

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How is the 2016 class looking?

Clearly someone has an axe to grind with the 2015 class. It sounds like someone who's kid do not make the U19 team. This was 3 years ago. Probably time to move on and stop living in the past.

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

To anyone at the Suffolk awards dinner last night. Any surprises. Was it worth omitting awards to shorten it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To anyone at the Suffolk awards dinner last night. Any surprises. Was it worth omitting awards to shorten it.

It was a lot quieter and you could actually hear the names of the girls receiving their awards which was nice. Some head shakers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly
about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Some people just can't stand it when college coaches, Inside Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... Select players other than their daughter . They come up with excuse after excuse, the then cry politics and finally the come up with the nonsense about girls not panning out, not seeing the field or giving up the sport all together. It is sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me reframe the question...I would say 50% of the early recruits (those that committed in 8th and 9th grade) have panned out by 12th grade, then the number four years from now will be substantially lower. So of these will 25% still be strong players in college as they graduate? Maybe that is the expectation. And will that be a lower percentage than the girls coming up with later recruiting rules? Will the girls recruited earlier have higher transfer rates than the girls who commit later?

I am somewhat leading the argument...I believe later recruiting is better and more accurate. The best player on our hs team was a little under the radar as a 9th grader. She is going D1 to a mid-major lacrosse school, although a great academic school...it will work out well for this girl. However if she came up with today’s recruiting rules, she would be looking at Ivy League and Stanford as well as the top level lacrosse schools. So as we watch these transition years from early recruiting to 11th grade recruiting what do people think is better?

Of course the new rules for recruiting are better for everyone, the players the coaches and the parents. The race to land an 8th-9th grader is a pure gamble and you can see many misses evident by junior or senior year. It’s a crappy position for a coach and even worse for the player. Think about the player who took the offer as a top recruit in 8-9th only to have the rest of the pool catch up and/or surpass them, and yes this is more common than not. That is a lot of baggage to be starting a college career with. Junior year opens recruiting is definitely better for all.

There were very few if any girls who Commited in the 8th grade. How many 2018's Commited while in the 9th grade? 30?

It is not much of a gamble at all for the college coaches. The majority of players who are identified early (by the top college programs) do pan out.

The jealousy out there is too much. Believe me, if a player tears it up in her rising senior summer and she was Commited to let's say Drexel, Marist or UConn she would have other offers. The best programs want the best players. If they see a stud that they overlooked they will (they do) approach the player.

The top programs do not miss very often. The large majority of top recruits do not stop playing and many are top players on their college teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To anyone at the Suffolk awards dinner last night. Any surprises. Was it worth omitting awards to shorten it.

It was a lot quieter and you could actually hear the names of the girls receiving their awards which was nice. Some head shakers.

Some Head Shakers? What awards?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To anyone at the Suffolk awards dinner last night. Any surprises. Was it worth omitting awards to shorten it.

It was a lot quieter and you could actually hear the names of the girls receiving their awards which was nice. Some head shakers.

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Only seniors who go talk division were invited. If you were an underclassmen ayou needed to get all county honorable mention or higher

2019 Suffolk A Final Four:

West Islip
Northport
Riverhrad
Smithtown East or Sachem North

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Only seniors who go talk division were invited. If you were an underclassmen ayou needed to get all county honorable mention or higher

Is there a list of recipients for all awards?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Only seniors who go talk division were invited. If you were an underclassmen ayou needed to get all county honorable mention or higher

that is not entirely true, my son got Academic All conference last year and he was invited. the coach said that all conference players don't get invited unless you were Academic All conference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Only seniors who go talk division were invited. If you were an underclassmen ayou needed to get all county honorable mention or higher

that is not entirely true, my son got Academic All conference last year and he was invited. the coach said that all conference players don't get invited unless you were Academic All conference

Why did your son go to the Girls event last year , that's just weird.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Only seniors who go talk division were invited. If you were an underclassmen ayou needed to get all county honorable mention or higher

that is not entirely true, my son got Academic All conference last year and he was invited. the coach said that all conference players don't get invited unless you were Academic All conference

Geez.....wake up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Only seniors who go talk division were invited. If you were an underclassmen ayou needed to get all county honorable mention or higher

Is there a list of recipients for all awards?

I was wondering the same thing. Where can you find a list of all the girls who have won awards?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what the format was for this. At first I heard it was just for All County Players, but then I see on the sectionxi tweets pictures of girls who got all division etc. Did the coaches have a limit of how many girls could go? Was it fair to have some girls who received all division all conference all tournament all rookie or Unsung Hero to be able to attend but not all? If the girls earned awards seems wrong to just cut them from the dinner, did Nassau do the same?

Only seniors who go talk division were invited. If you were an underclassmen ayou needed to get all county honorable mention or higher

Is there a list of recipients for all awards?

I was wondering the same thing. Where can you find a list of all the girls who have won awards?

Facebook

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

There were underclassman who got All Division that attended, so not sure where that's coming from. Maybe schools were capped at 4 attendees max? As for Facebook page , where is the list there. Section XI?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

I am not the person that you are responding to but I will try to help out.

The 58 players from the HS graduation class of 2015 were the 44 Senior Under Armour All-Americans plus the 14 players selected to represent the United States on the U19 National Team. 44 + 14 = 58

Someone posted that only 5 of the top players from the class of 2015 actually panned out to be legit at the college level. The person then asked if someone could prove otherwise .

Someone answered by pointing out that out of the 58 players (who were considered the best in the class and were the early recruits to many of the top programs) only about 5 of the players "Did Not" pan out (starter / evey game player). The large majority of the 58 start and or play in every game for their team (most are at top 20 programs). Many have received post season honors. (All-Conference , All-American, Tewarraton Finalist / Winner)

It was also pointed out that the 2015 Inside Lacrosse Senior Top 30 ranking had 27 of the 30 selected to Under Armour Senior All-America Team or Team USA.

It was not brought up but I am willing to bet the majority of the 58 players discussed made their School Girls Team if they tried out.

To Summarize:

Top College Coaches, UA selection committee , School Girl evaluators, Team USA selection committee all appear to identify the same players as being the best.

The girls being discussed are major contributos at their respective schools. Few if any have left the sport.

The facts paint a very different picture than what is spewed on this site by the haters. These players were the top kids in the 8th and 9th grade and they are the top kids now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There were underclassman who got All Division that attended, so not sure where that's coming from. Maybe schools were capped at 4 attendees max? As for Facebook page , where is the list there. Section XI?

They were being sarcastic with the Facebook post.

I'm sure if you look you will find more than a few parents posting... ; - )

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

A couple simple points that even a stunad like you can understand
1)11. Sam Apuzzo | M | West Babylon (N.Y.) | Boston College
Copied directly from inside lacrosse recruit rankings you dope . So you understand being ranked 11 puts you in the top 58
2) You are responding to several different posters , why he picked 58 I have no idea
3) Your original statement had nothing to do w UA etc was about early recruits not planning out
4) You may be the most uneducated poster out there .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

A couple simple points that even a stunad like you can understand
1)11. Sam Apuzzo | M | West Babylon (N.Y.) | Boston College
Copied directly from inside lacrosse recruit rankings you dope . So you understand being ranked 11 puts you in the top 58
2) You are responding to several different posters , why he picked 58 I have no idea
3) Your original statement had nothing to do w UA etc was about early recruits not planning out
4) You may be the most uneducated poster out there .

The posts that started it... Below: Notice the last line,,,

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?

The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?

I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .

If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players

The majority of top recruits do pan out. The majority of top recruits at the top programs do not stop playing.

Take a look at this years freshman class the majority of top recruits were impact players at powerhouse programs.

I know many of you want these young women to fail but the reality is the majority of the top recruits go on to have successful college careers.

this is just not true. Looking at the 2015 class, out of the top 50players, maybe 5 panned out to be truly top players. If anyone can come up wit more, prove it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

You need to be able to raise a significant amount of money to play on team USA or USA U-19, they expect you to fund raise for them, some borderline(at best) players raised significant funds and made the teams, others didn't choose to fund raise and fell a little short

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional teawon the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

You need to be able to raise a significant amount of money to play on team USA or USA U-19, they expect you to fund raise for them, some borderline(at best) players raised significant funds and made the teams, others didn't choose to fund raise and fell a little short

The madness continues...

Are you suggesting that they ask players to fundraise before the team is selected?

I know of 20 parents off the top of my head who would get together and fund the entire cost (travel , hotels, equipment, coaches, you name it...) if that was the criteria for making the team.

I don't think players are asked to fundraise until after they earn a spot on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional teawon the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

You need to be able to raise a significant amount of money to play on team USA or USA U-19, they expect you to fund raise for them, some borderline(at best) players raised significant funds and made the teams, others didn't choose to fund raise and fell a little short

The madness continues...

Are you suggesting that they ask players to fundraise before the team is selected?

I know of 20 parents off the top of my head who would get together and fund the entire cost (travel , hotels, equipment, coaches, you name it...) if that was the criteria for making the team.

I don't think players are asked to fundraise until after they earn a spot on the team.

Agree. We have a kid in our town that would already be playing on the team if a spot could be bought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional teawon the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

You need to be able to raise a significant amount of money to play on team USA or USA U-19, they expect you to fund raise for them, some borderline(at best) players raised significant funds and made the teams, others didn't choose to fund raise and fell a little short

The madness continues...

Are you suggesting that they ask players to fundraise before the team is selected?

I know of 20 parents off the top of my head who would get together and fund the entire cost (travel , hotels, equipment, coaches, you name it...) if that was the criteria for making the team.

I don't think players are asked to fundraise until after they earn a spot on the team.

I know they are, I was sent a fundraising letter on behalf a kid from U-19 team before the final rosters were set. Ask SS why she didn't make USA team, she wasn't interested in fund raising for them

The only underclassmen that received all division/ unsung hero at the dinner were girls who's team won Counties/L.I.C's or States because their whole team was there to accept that award. Those awards weren't presented to them they were just handed out to them by their coaches while they were sitting at their tables.. So dont get in a tizzy your kid wasnt excluded.

How some of the top seniors from 2017 did in their freshman year:
https://twitter.com/kennydejohn/status/1007046261663465477

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only underclassmen that received all division/ unsung hero at the dinner were girls who's team won Counties/L.I.C's or States because their whole team was there to accept that award. Those awards weren't presented to them they were just handed out to them by their coaches while they were sitting at their tables.. So dont get in a tizzy your kid wasnt excluded.

When an Athlete works hard and their records show it, it's nice to be included when others are given the same award. So if it's politely explained and is a reasonable response that's acceptable. It would be nice to know what the parameters are beforehand.

Seems like a lot of nonsense at the UA tryouts . You had players who had their high school coach telling them to change their position they signed up to tryout for midway thru the tryout and in the final scrimmages so they can make the team .Seems unfair to those kids whose coach was not there and to the player who does not make it as a result . I saw the BBP coach move two of his players to different positions during the call back scrimage .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a lot of nonsense at the UA tryouts . You had players who had their high school coach telling them to change their position they signed up to tryout for midway thru the tryout and in the final scrimmages so they can make the team .Seems unfair to those kids whose coach was not there and to the player who does not make it as a result . I saw the BBP coach move two of his players to different positions during the call back scrimage .

I have seen the coaches move players around in the past and it was not done by the players HS coach (the players coaches were not at the tryout).

The coaches want to field the best team and If that means moving some players around so be it. From what I have seen in the past UA does a pretty good job at selecting the team. There will always be a few very good players left off but for the most part they do a good job.

happens every year.

They move kids all the time in order to try and fill the slots open at attack, middie and defense as best they can. Having your coach there is an advantage and that is no surprise, and so is being known by the coaches and evaluators. That being said, the coaches want to field the best team they can and the process will never be perfect. There is a tremendous amount of talent on LI and it was on full display last night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a lot of nonsense at the UA tryouts . You had players who had their high school coach telling them to change their position they signed up to tryout for midway thru the tryout and in the final scrimmages so they can make the team .Seems unfair to those kids whose coach was not there and to the player who does not make it as a result . I saw the BBP coach move two of his players to different positions during the call back scrimage .

Rosters are not even out yet and already someone is crying. They should give everyone a trophy at the end of the tryout to make everyone feel better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like a lot of nonsense at the UA tryouts . You had players who had their high school coach telling them to change their position they signed up to tryout for midway thru the tryout and in the final scrimmages so they can make the team .Seems unfair to those kids whose coach was not there and to the player who does not make it as a result . I saw the BBP coach move two of his players to different positions during the call back scrimage .

Rosters are not even out yet and already someone is crying. They should give everyone a trophy at the end of the tryout to make everyone feel better.

Bayport, Northport, Mattituck, Mt. Sinai, West Hampton are taking over the world.

Just get used to it. Quid pro quo Shameful

Please the team was 75% picked before anybody even got there. Do the math 90 girls times $125 a pop for 22 positions. When CR doesn’t take down one note when she supposed to be “evaluating” when they do callbacks and 13 to 15 girls are told to sit down that their spot is secure andtjeure all yj. When girls are switching positions that they don’t fly to get a roster spot. And it’s not because there wasn’t four other attack players that were good enough. The talent pool that was at the tryout was off the charts

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

Why don't you wait for the rosters to come out before you open your mouth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

I remember the year my daughter went and the YJ girls were greeting the evaluators with hugs. That sure didn't feel fair.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 Suffolk A Final Four:

West Islip
Northport
Riverhrad
Smithtown East or Sachem North

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 Suffolk A Final Four:

West Islip
Northport
Riverhrad
Smithtown East or Sachem North

Too bad so moving to B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only underclassmen that received all division/ unsung hero at the dinner were girls who's team won Counties/L.I.C's or States because their whole team was there to accept that award. Those awards weren't presented to them they were just handed out to them by their coaches while they were sitting at their tables.. So dont get in a tizzy your kid wasnt excluded.

When an Athlete works hard and their records show it, it's nice to be included when others are given the same award. So if it's politely explained and is a reasonable response that's acceptable. It would be nice to know what the parameters are beforehand.

I guess you couldn't post her picture on facebook.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

Why don't you wait for the rosters to come out before you open your mouth.

If I said the tryout was unfair once the teams are picked someone like you would just say some stupid “sorry your kid got cut” . I do not believe having your high school coach move you to a new position is fair as not all kids get that same advice from someone who has seen the evaluations . Seems ridiculous that they could not find an excellent team by picking kids from positions they signed up for .

I am familiar with CR.... Can anyone provide info on the other coaches?

Highlight: Carol Rose, Kerri Kilkenny, Becky Thorn

Command: Ryan Gick, Matt Maloney, Charlie Rizzuto

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am familiar with CR.... Can anyone provide info on the other coaches?

Highlight: Carol Rose, Kerri Kilkenny, Becky Thorn

Command: Ryan Gick, Matt Maloney, Charlie Rizzuto

np wm esm yj nothing yj
don't know any of the command

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am familiar with CR.... Can anyone provide info on the other coaches?

Highlight: Carol Rose, Kerri Kilkenny, Becky Thorn

Command: Ryan Gick, Matt Maloney, Charlie Rizzuto

np wm esm yj nothing yj
don't know any of the command

Ryan Gick - BBP
Matt Maloney - Mattituck
Charlie Rizzuto - Oyster Bay

So counting the Highlight coaches, that's 5 from Suffolk and 1 from Nassau.

Stupid UA. Most think your LI tryout process is unfair to begin with. Why don't you at least try to make it LOOK unbiased by getting a better cross section of evaluators and coaches? You'll make more $ because more people will sign up!! That's smart business. You're welcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am familiar with CR.... Can anyone provide info on the other coaches?

Highlight: Carol Rose, Kerri Kilkenny, Becky Thorn

Command: Ryan Gick, Matt Maloney, Charlie Rizzuto

np wm esm yj nothing yj
don't know any of the command

Maloney is Mattituck - Newsday's Suffolk coach of the year. A Google search will probably get you the rest of them.

Just looking at the 2018 NCAA Division I All Americans. No JMU players named. Some of you will cry politics but I think it is something else.

- Defense wins championships. Through their first 19 games Boston College averaged better than 16 goals per game. JMU held BC to 11 goals.

- Lacrosse is a team sport and a well coached unselfish team that plays excellent defense will win more times than not even if they do not have any players who receive a lot of accolades.

At the HS level, teams that have weak coaches who allow selfish "go to goal" play and do not understand or value of team defense will never win a championship.

The sad part is that most of the parents (of selfish players) could care less about the team or winning. As long as their daughter has her goals all is good. Please understand that not every player who scores a lot of goals is selfish. However, teams with selfish players will never win.

Did your team win?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am familiar with CR.... Can anyone provide info on the other coaches?

Highlight: Carol Rose, Kerri Kilkenny, Becky Thorn

Command: Ryan Gick, Matt Maloney, Charlie Rizzuto

np wm esm yj nothing yj
don't know any of the command

Maloney is Mattituck - Newsday's Suffolk coach of the year. A Google search will probably get you the rest of them.

Gick is BBP/Legacy Rizzuto is Oyster Bay not sure about travel affiliation. I have no problem with high school coaches/ travel coaches being involved as who else could you get .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just looking at the 2018 NCAA Division I All Americans. No JMU players named. Some of you will cry politics but I think it is something else.

- Defense wins championships. Through their first 19 games Boston College averaged better than 16 goals per game. JMU held BC to 11 goals.

- Lacrosse is a team sport and a well coached unselfish team that plays excellent defense will win more times than not even if they do not have any players who receive a lot of accolades.

At the HS level, teams that have weak coaches who allow selfish "go to goal" play and do not understand or value of team defense will never win a championship.

The sad part is that most of the parents (of selfish players) could care less about the team or winning. As long as their daughter has her goals all is good. Please understand that not every player who scores a lot of goals is selfish. However, teams with selfish players will never win.

Did your team win?

Or there was (apparently) a paperwork issue at JMU.
https://twitter.com/kennydejohn/status/1007343544347103232

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just looking at the 2018 NCAA Division I All Americans. No JMU players named. Some of you will cry politics but I think it is something else.

- Defense wins championships. Through their first 19 games Boston College averaged better than 16 goals per game. JMU held BC to 11 goals.

- Lacrosse is a team sport and a well coached unselfish team that plays excellent defense will win more times than not even if they do not have any players who receive a lot of accolades.

At the HS level, teams that have weak coaches who allow selfish "go to goal" play and do not understand or value of team defense will never win a championship.

The sad part is that most of the parents (of selfish players) could care less about the team or winning. As long as their daughter has her goals all is good. Please understand that not every player who scores a lot of goals is selfish. However, teams with selfish players will never win.

Did your team win?

It's been fairly widely reported that the JMU Athletic Department didn't submit their players names in time for All American consideration.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Just looking at the 2018 NCAA Division I All Americans. No JMU players named. Some of you will cry politics but I think it is something else.

- Defense wins championships. Through their first 19 games Boston College averaged better than 16 goals per game. JMU held BC to 11 goals.

- Lacrosse is a team sport and a well coached unselfish team that plays excellent defense will win more times than not even if they do not have any players who receive a lot of accolades.

At the HS level, teams that have weak coaches who allow selfish "go to goal" play and do not understand or value of team defense will never win a championship.

The sad part is that most of the parents (of selfish players) could care less about the team or winning. As long as their daughter has her goals all is good. Please understand that not every player who scores a lot of goals is selfish. However, teams with selfish players will never win.

Did your team win?

Take JMU out of it. This post applies to 85% of LI teams. Only the perenial winners in Nassau spread the ball around without having top newsday scorers CSH Sett GC everybody worries about their points, don't play in the power conference and get bounced early in the playoffs. But we did have some kids that committed in 8th grade so all is right in the world

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Just looking at the 2018 NCAA Division I All Americans. No JMU players named. Some of you will cry politics but I think it is something else.

- Defense wins championships. Through their first 19 games Boston College averaged better than 16 goals per game. JMU held BC to 11 goals.

- Lacrosse is a team sport and a well coached unselfish team that plays excellent defense will win more times than not even if they do not have any players who receive a lot of accolades.

At the HS level, teams that have weak coaches who allow selfish "go to goal" play and do not understand or value of team defense will never win a championship.

The sad part is that most of the parents (of selfish players) could care less about the team or winning. As long as their daughter has her goals all is good. Please understand that not every player who scores a lot of goals is selfish. However, teams with selfish players will never win.

Did your team win?

Take JMU out of it. This post applies to 85% of LI teams. Only the perenial winners in Nassau spread the ball around without having top newsday scorers CSH Sett GC everybody worries about their points, don't play in the power conference and get bounced early in the playoffs. But we did have some kids that committed in 8th grade so all is right in the world

All-Americans or not the assessment is accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]2019 Suffolk A Final Four:

West Islip
Northport
Riverhrad
Smithtown East or Sachem North

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 Suffolk A Final Four:

West Islip
Northport
Riverhrad
Smithtown East or Sachem North

Too bad so moving to B

Sachem East not Sachem North

West islip moving to b

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]2019 Suffolk A Final Four:

West Islip
Northport
Riverhrad
Smithtown East or Sachem North

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 Suffolk A Final Four:

West Islip
Northport
Riverhrad
Smithtown East or Sachem North

Too bad so moving to B

Sachem East not Sachem North

Who’s moving?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Be specific, you talk mostly about accolades they received while still in HS. You talk about the 14 that played on the U-19 out of the 14 1 has been benched, one started to split time with a frosh, one definitely did not live up to expectations ( though her sister is exceeding expectation) 2 are starters on team that are on a down turn (one of which didn't even make tournament this year) and thats just off the top of my head. and just for giggles, the alternate won Tawaarton, a non traditional team won the tournament with non of your top 58, and the #1 team for most of the year didn't have any either. so maybe UA, Inside lacrosse and schoo lgirls is really just what people, a popularity contest"

You really are a dope, the Tewaaraton winner was an early recruit so it goes against your moronic argument, the national champs were led by several players that as freshman and sophomores by your standards would have been players that did not pan out and no one is saying there are not players who were recruited late that will successful in college.

Is english a second language for you? The T winner was an early recruit, yes , But that was not your "moronic" argument was it. Your "moronic" argument was the top 58 girls ( Why 58 is anyones guess but mine is that it means something to you) The T winner was not in your precious top 58, neither were any of the Tournament champs, or any girl on the team ranked #1 for most of the year. Now I may be a "dope" to you, but at least I can form a coherent sentence, and follow my own train of thought, both thing you seem to struggle with. I stand by my original statement, selection to UA, Nike, and School girls is mostly a popularity contest.

I am not the person that you are responding to but I will try to help out.

The 58 players from the HS graduation class of 2015 were the 44 Senior Under Armour All-Americans plus the 14 players selected to represent the United States on the U19 National Team. 44 + 14 = 58

Someone posted that only 5 of the top players from the class of 2015 actually panned out to be legit at the college level. The person then asked if someone could prove otherwise .

Someone answered by pointing out that out of the 58 players (who were considered the best in the class and were the early recruits to many of the top programs) only about 5 of the players "Did Not" pan out (starter / evey game player). The large majority of the 58 start and or play in every game for their team (most are at top 20 programs). Many have received post season honors. (All-Conference , All-American, Tewarraton Finalist / Winner)

It was also pointed out that the 2015 Inside Lacrosse Senior Top 30 ranking had 27 of the 30 selected to Under Armour Senior All-America Team or Team USA.

It was not brought up but I am willing to bet the majority of the 58 players discussed made their School Girls Team if they tried out.

To Summarize:

Top College Coaches, UA selection committee , School Girl evaluators, Team USA selection committee all appear to identify the same players as being the best.

The girls being discussed are major contributos at their respective schools. Few if any have left the sport.

The facts paint a very different picture than what is spewed on this site by the haters. These players were the top kids in the 8th and 9th grade and they are the top kids now.

Yes the facts most certainly do paint a very different picture than what some would like us all to believe.

BTW, the following is copied directly from the 2015 Under Armour All-America Program:

"This year, 14 girls of the class of 2015 were named Under Armour All-Americans but will be unable to participate in the game due to prior commitments to the U.S. Women’s Under-19 National Team. This group is still considered Under Armour All-Americans in the event’s records and will be acknowledged in a half-time ceremony during All-America weekend. The players are as follows: Sam Apuzzo, Natalie Bulgier, Olivia “Ya” Ferrucci, Samantha Giacolone, Jackie Gilbert, Miranda Ibello, Erin Kelly, Nikki Ortega, Hannah Proctor, Claire Quinn, Lindsey Ronbeck, Mallory Weisse, Francesca Whitehurst & Caroline Zapfino."

Here is a some additional proof that the haters and the nonsense that they spew is all BS:

19 of the 32 players Named to the All-ACC Teams were Under Armour Senior All-Americans. Those are the best players in the best conference in the country. Those players were Identified early by the best programs in the country and I am sure that most (if they tried out) made the School Girls and UA Underclass Teams. The best players do in fact pan out and they do continue to play all four years at the college level.

I am sure it is a similar story in the Big 10 and Ivy League as well.

Congratulations to all of the players who earned a spot on one of the Under Armour All-America Underclass Rosters. Well deserved , be proud, keep working hard your future is bright.

Go Long Island!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Remembered this post from months ago. the season is over and here are the best players.

Here are the heights of the best players in the game. (keep in mind that some people believe that rosters usually round up as much as an inch).

Sam Apuzzo - 5' 6" - Boston College – Jr., Attack
Kristen Gaussian - 5' 8" - James Madison – Sr., Attack
Marie McCool - 5' 6" - North Carolina – Sr., Midfield
Kylie Ohlmiller - 5' 3" - Stony Brook – Sr., Attack
Megan Whittle - 5' 4" - Maryland – Sr., Attack

Draw your own conclusion.

To answer your question ... "What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?"

Speed, athleticism, explosiveness, quickness, strength and skill are some. In addition to the physical traits I'm sure they look at lacrosse IQ, work ethic, attitude etc..

Enjoy the summer circuit and good luck on the recruiting trail.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Remembered this post from months ago. the season is over and here are the best players.

Here are the heights of the best players in the game. (keep in mind that some people believe that rosters usually round up as much as an inch).

Sam Apuzzo - 5' 6" - Boston College – Jr., Attack
Kristen Gaussian - 5' 8" - James Madison – Sr., Attack
Marie McCool - 5' 6" - North Carolina – Sr., Midfield
Kylie Ohlmiller - 5' 3" - Stony Brook – Sr., Attack
Megan Whittle - 5' 4" - Maryland – Sr., Attack

Draw your own conclusion.

To answer your question ... "What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?"

Speed, athleticism, explosiveness, quickness, strength and skill are some. In addition to the physical traits I'm sure they look at lacrosse IQ, work ethic, attitude etc..

Enjoy the summer circuit and good luck on the recruiting trail.

I took a wider sample and looked at the IWLCA first team AA. They are definitely an overall taller than average team. Looking at the last data that states American women have an average height of 5'3"- 5'4" there are two players that fall within that range while the remaining are all above average with a general average of 5'7"- 5'8".

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Thank you - What's the difference between All-County and All-County Honorable Mention, what is all-division?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Thank you - What's the difference between All-County and All-County Honorable Mention, what is all-division?

Listed in order of achievement - All County, HM and All-Division. Sort of like 1st, 2nd and 3rd team but first 2 are the whole county and third is separated by division - large and small schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Thank you - What's the difference between All-County and All-County Honorable Mention, what is all-division?

And the better the team did, the more awards the coach gets to hand out so not a true top to bottom representation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Wow!!! That guy had 2 All Americans and didn't even come close to getting off the island. I would say someone has surpassed the WM coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Remembered this post from months ago. the season is over and here are the best players.

Here are the heights of the best players in the game. (keep in mind that some people believe that rosters usually round up as much as an inch).

Sam Apuzzo - 5' 6" - Boston College – Jr., Attack
Kristen Gaussian - 5' 8" - James Madison – Sr., Attack
Marie McCool - 5' 6" - North Carolina – Sr., Midfield
Kylie Ohlmiller - 5' 3" - Stony Brook – Sr., Attack
Megan Whittle - 5' 4" - Maryland – Sr., Attack

Draw your own conclusion.

To answer your question ... "What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?"

Speed, athleticism, explosiveness, quickness, strength and skill are some. In addition to the physical traits I'm sure they look at lacrosse IQ, work ethic, attitude etc..

Enjoy the summer circuit and good luck on the recruiting trail.

I took a wider sample and looked at the IWLCA first team AA. They are definitely an overall taller than average team. Looking at the last data that states American women have an average height of 5'3"- 5'4" there are two players that fall within that range while the remaining are all above average with a general average of 5'7"- 5'8".

Looking at all 48 All-Americans, the average height is 5' 6".

The original question was "do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?".

Coaches want "kids that can play". There are many physical traits that coaches value more than height.

The person stating his daughter "didn't fit the profile" was making an excuse. The coach didn't offer spots to other players simply because they were tall. The spots were offered to players the coach believed were better players (maybe they happened to be taller as well).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Wow!!! That guy had 2 All Americans and didn't even come close to getting off the island. I would say someone has surpassed the WM coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Wow!!! That guy had 2 All Americans and didn't even come close to getting off the island. I would say someone has surpassed the WM coach.

Mt Sinai, Northport and Bayport all had 2 All Americans, WM had none. And none of them made it off the island, but it figures a WM parent would go and throw someone else’s coach under the bus, that’s how they roll.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the
other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Remembered this post from months ago. the season is over and here are the best players.

Here are the heights of the best players in the game. (keep in mind that some people believe that rosters usually round up as much as an inch).

Sam Apuzzo - 5' 6" - Boston College – Jr., Attack
Kristen Gaussian - 5' 8" - James Madison – Sr., Attack
Marie McCool - 5' 6" - North Carolina – Sr., Midfield
Kylie Ohlmiller - 5' 3" - Stony Brook – Sr., Attack
Megan Whittle - 5' 4" - Maryland – Sr., Attack

Draw your own conclusion.

To answer your question ... "What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?"

Speed, athleticism, explosiveness, quickness, strength and skill are some. In addition to the physical traits I'm sure they look at lacrosse IQ, work ethic, attitude etc..

Enjoy the summer circuit and good luck on the recruiting trail.

I took a wider sample and looked at the IWLCA first team AA. They are definitely an overall taller than average team. Looking at the last data that states American women have an average height of 5'3"- 5'4" there are two players that fall within that range while the remaining are all above average with a general average of 5'7"- 5'8".

Looking at all 48 All-Americans, the average height is 5' 6".

The original question was "do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?".

Coaches want "kids that can play". There are many physical traits that coaches value more than height.

The person stating his daughter "didn't fit the profile" was making an excuse. The coach didn't offer spots to other players simply because they were tall. The spots were offered to players the coach believed were better players (maybe they happened to be taller as well).

Curious was team 1 in average the tallest w team 2 next etc . That said I have heard of coaches telling players that were regarded as some of the best talent wise that they were simply too small. While I disagree with that type of profiling as there are some very good smaller players it does happen .

In lacrosse you get all sizes but if you building a perfect player coaches would prob go 5'6" 5"7 In soccer its more pronounced. Generalizing you see a lot of d1's at 5'8" D2's 5"5 and d3's a mix with a bunch of 5 footers. But if you can play theye will find you especially in lacrosse where speed and quickness is a must for the good players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the
other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Remembered this post from months ago. the season is over and here are the best players.

Here are the heights of the best players in the game. (keep in mind that some people believe that rosters usually round up as much as an inch).

Sam Apuzzo - 5' 6" - Boston College – Jr., Attack
Kristen Gaussian - 5' 8" - James Madison – Sr., Attack
Marie McCool - 5' 6" - North Carolina – Sr., Midfield
Kylie Ohlmiller - 5' 3" - Stony Brook – Sr., Attack
Megan Whittle - 5' 4" - Maryland – Sr., Attack

Draw your own conclusion.

To answer your question ... "What are some of the other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?"

Speed, athleticism, explosiveness, quickness, strength and skill are some. In addition to the physical traits I'm sure they look at lacrosse IQ, work ethic, attitude etc..

Enjoy the summer circuit and good luck on the recruiting trail.

I took a wider sample and looked at the IWLCA first team AA. They are definitely an overall taller than average team. Looking at the last data that states American women have an average height of 5'3"- 5'4" there are two players that fall within that range while the remaining are all above average with a general average of 5'7"- 5'8".

Looking at all 48 All-Americans, the average height is 5' 6".

The original question was "do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?".

Coaches want "kids that can play". There are many physical traits that coaches value more than height.

The person stating his daughter "didn't fit the profile" was making an excuse. The coach didn't offer spots to other players simply because they were tall. The spots were offered to players the coach believed were better players (maybe they happened to be taller as well).

Curious was team 1 in average the tallest w team 2 next etc . That said I have heard of coaches telling players that were regarded as some of the best talent wise that they were simply too small. While I disagree with that type of profiling as there are some very good smaller players it does happen .

The breakdown does show the 1st teamers to be taller on average but I think the main differential between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams is their class i.e. SR, JR, SO, FR. The six Juniors on the 2nd team are not going to get any taller but they might make the first team next year.

Just like last time around. It appears that some of you want to make this about taller or shorter being better. That was not the point. The point was that height is not a major factor in the recruiting process and that other physical traits are valued more by college coaches.

This fact is illustrated by the heights of many of the best players in the game from many of the top programs in the came.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In lacrosse you get all sizes but if you building a perfect player coaches would prob go 5'6" 5"7 In soccer its more pronounced. Generalizing you see a lot of d1's at 5'8" D2's 5"5 and d3's a mix with a bunch of 5 footers. But if you can play theye will find you especially in lacrosse where speed and quickness is a must for the good players

Most ridiculous post ever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Wow!!! That guy had 2 All Americans and didn't even come close to getting off the island. I would say someone has surpassed the WM coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Wow!!! That guy had 2 All Americans and didn't even come close to getting off the island. I would say someone has surpassed the WM coach.

Mt Sinai, Northport and Bayport all had 2 All Americans, WM had none. And none of them made it off the island, but it figures a WM parent would go and throw someone else’s coach under the bus, that’s how they roll.

Go away troll. Doubt it was a WM parent. But I'm sure that you are the same troll who comes on here any time WM is mentioned with your (under the bus coment) .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Forgive me if this the wrong forum but I have a question that’s a bit off topic.
It’s about recruiting.
I was talked by to another club lacrosse parent about the colleges his 2019 daughter was looking at this past summer. My daughter is a 2022.
I asked him about “ABC College” and he said that his daughter didn’t fit “the profile”. The profile was that this school liked taller girls.
Do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?
Ever since I have always noticed the height of the players and most rosters don’t carry a majority of one height over another. What are some of the
other physical traits that schools may look at in a player?

Remembered this post from months ago. the season is over and here are the best players.

Here are the heights of the best players in the game. (keep in mind that some people believe that rosters usually round up as much as an inch).

Sam Apuzzo - 5' 6" - Boston College – Jr., Attack

I took a wider sample and looked at the IWLCA first team AA. They are definitely an overall taller than average team. Looking at the last data that states American women have an average height of 5'3"- 5'4" there are two players that fall within that range while the remaining are all above average with a general average of 5'7"- 5'8".

Looking at all 48 All-Americans, the average height is 5' 6".

The original question was "do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?".

Coaches want "kids that can play". There are many physical traits that coaches value more than height.

The person stating his daughter "didn't fit the profile" was making an excuse. The coach didn't offer spots to other players simply because they were tall. The spots were offered to players the coach believed were better players (maybe they happened to be taller as well).

Curious was team 1 in average the tallest w team 2 next etc . That said I have heard of coaches telling players that were regarded as some of the best talent wise that they were simply too small. While I disagree with that type of profiling as there are some very good smaller players it does happen .

The breakdown does show the 1st teamers to be taller on average but I think the main differential between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams is their class i.e. SR, JR, SO, FR. The six Juniors on the 2nd team are not going to get any taller but they might make the first team next year.

Just like last time around. It appears that some of you want to make this about taller or shorter being better. That was not the point. The point was that height is not a major factor in the recruiting process and that other physical traits are valued more by college coaches.

This fact is illustrated by the heights of many of the best players in the game from many of the top programs in the came.

How does the Tewaaraton finalists heights have anything to do with height being a major factor in the recruiting process. Size is a factor in the recruiting process with some schools placing more emphasis on it than others. If you look at the original question "do colleges/universities have unsaid physical profiles for their teams?" of course they do but they are not hard and fast rules. You are not going to get many D1 defenders that are 5'0" and weigh 100lbs and you are not going to get many that are 6'0" and weigh 225.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Wow!!! That guy had 2 All Americans and didn't even come close to getting off the island. I would say someone has surpassed the WM coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk County Honorees, per Section XI:
http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp?au=/2018/06/18/2018-suffolk-girls-lacrosse-honors/

Wow!!! That guy had 2 All Americans and didn't even come close to getting off the island. I would say someone has surpassed the WM coach.

Mt Sinai, Northport and Bayport all had 2 All Americans, WM had none. And none of them made it off the island, but it figures a WM parent would go and throw someone else’s coach under the bus, that’s how they roll.

Go away troll. Doubt it was a WM parent. But I'm sure that you are the same troll who comes on here any time WM is mentioned with your (under the bus coment) .

Anyone know where to find similar info for Nassau County?

Who is the 2019 Liberty Black/Red coach? That woman is a hammerhead. I witnessed berating officials throughout the day at Live, Love, Lax! I personally felt most officiating was solid. Oh well, she needs to rethink how she acts in front of her players. There appears to be a huge drop off between the black and red.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the 2019 Liberty Black/Red coach? That woman is a hammerhead. I witnessed berating officials throughout the day at Live, Love, Lax! I personally felt most officiating was solid. Oh well, she needs to rethink how she acts in front of her players. There appears to be a huge drop off between the black and red.

Are you sure you don't mean the TG 2020 black coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

Why don't you wait for the rosters to come out before you open your mouth.

If I said the tryout was unfair once the teams are picked someone like you would just say some stupid “sorry your kid got cut” . I do not believe having your high school coach move you to a new position is fair as not all kids get that same advice from someone who has seen the evaluations . Seems ridiculous that they could not find an excellent team by picking kids from positions they signed up for .

The complaining is never ending with some of you. It is always unfair, it's always political, the team is always picked befor the tryouts begin. Bla Bla bla... Congratulations to all the players who made the teams. Under Armour is the hardest team to make and it is the most competitive tournament out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

Why don't you wait for the rosters to come out before you open your mouth.

If I said the tryout was unfair once the teams are picked someone like you would just say some stupid “sorry your kid got cut” . I do not believe having your high school coach move you to a new position is fair as not all kids get that same advice from someone who has seen the evaluations . Seems ridiculous that they could not find an excellent team by picking kids from positions they signed up for .

The complaining is never ending with some of you. It is always unfair, it's always political, the team is always picked befor the tryouts begin. Bla Bla bla... Congratulations to all the players who made the teams. Under Armour is the hardest team to make and it is the most competitive tournament out there.

Considering you wanted to bring this topic up ,do you feel it is an unfair advantage for a players high school coach to move that player midway thru a tryout to a different position presumably because they were not going to make the team for the position they wanted. I think it is obvious. My kid made the team and was essentially picked on reputation as she barely played in the final scrimmage as were many of the players. Is what it is but it is certainly not a level playing field based solely on the tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

Why don't you wait for the rosters to come out before you open your mouth.

If I said the tryout was unfair once the teams are picked someone like you would just say some stupid “sorry your kid got cut” . I do not believe having your high school coach move you to a new position is fair as not all kids get that same advice from someone who has seen the evaluations . Seems ridiculous that they could not find an excellent team by picking kids from positions they signed up for .

The complaining is never ending with some of you. It is always unfair, it's always political, the team is always picked befor the tryouts begin. Bla Bla bla... Congratulations to all the players who made the teams. Under Armour is the hardest team to make and it is the most competitive tournament out there.

Considering you wanted to bring this topic up ,do you feel it is an unfair advantage for a players high school coach to move that player midway thru a tryout to a different position presumably because they were not going to make the team for the position they wanted. I think it is obvious. My kid made the team and was essentially picked on reputation as she barely played in the final scrimmage as were many of the players. Is what it is but it is certainly not a level playing field based solely on the tryout.

I have seen the evaluators/coaches move players to different positions in the past and it was not done by their HS or club coach (neither were at the tryout).

Your kids "reputation" is based on her ability and a proven track record. The players who sit out most of the final scrimmage are the ones that there is a consensus on.

Not a perfect system but they generally get it right.

For the most part they get it right but the process is certainly not perfect. One can always debate the last 5 kids chosen. At least 5 girls made the team for the first time and nearly half the team were 2020. Several strong players from last years team with politics on their side did not make it this year. It is fair to say that the coaches are trying to field the best team they can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes a ton of nonsense at the practice last night. It was not a tryout - CR knows who she wants on the team and did not look up once to evaluate the girls. Some of her YJ did not play well and will still be selected. Lots of talent on LI and they are from various club teams.

Why don't you wait for the rosters to come out before you open your mouth.

If I said the tryout was unfair once the teams are picked someone like you would just say some stupid “sorry your kid got cut” . I do not believe having your high school coach move you to a new position is fair as not all kids get that same advice from someone who has seen the evaluations . Seems ridiculous that they could not find an excellent team by picking kids from positions they signed up for .

The complaining is never ending with some of you. It is always unfair, it's always political, the team is always picked befor the tryouts begin. Bla Bla bla... Congratulations to all the players who made the teams. Under Armour is the hardest team to make and it is the most competitive tournament out there.

Considering you wanted to bring this topic up ,do you feel it is an unfair advantage for a players high school coach to move that player midway thru a tryout to a different position presumably because they were not going to make the team for the position they wanted. I think it is obvious. My kid made the team and was essentially picked on reputation as she barely played in the final scrimmage as were many of the players. Is what it is but it is certainly not a level playing field based solely on the tryout.

I have seen the evaluators/coaches move players to different positions in the past and it was not done by their HS or club coach (neither were at the tryout).

Your kids "reputation" is based on her ability and a proven track record. The players who sit out most of the final scrimmage are the ones that there is a consensus on.

Not a perfect system but they generally get it right.

Then why have a tryout other than a money grab or be upfront about it , "these players have made the team prior to tryouts and we have 5-6 open spots at these positions" . I have never seen a player have their position moved midway thru the tryout without some form of connection and most certainly saw two players from the same high school moved by their high school coach this year which is what we are talking about. Its debatable as weather a proven track record should be considered in a tryout and if you think players reputations are based mostly on ability I have a few future cant miss prospects in all sports that say otherwise. Again is what it is but there has to be a better way.

What school district was the “move the position” coach from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What school district was the “move the position” coach from?

It happened after callbacks and girls were told to play defense. Those girls were I assume trying out for Midfield and they wanted to see how they did defensively. It wasn't a big strategic move.

Girls HC position @ Huntington HS is open, not posted yet but HS Board will vote in September. Need to be NYS Certified Teacher or NYS Coaching certified as Non Teacher.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What school district was the “move the position” coach from?

It happened after callbacks and girls were told to play defense. Those girls were I assume trying out for Midfield and they wanted to see how they did defensively. It wasn't a big strategic move.

I know of one who was asked to move from midfield to attack.

Nothing wrong with it and I have seen it in the past.

Say what you want but the evaluators do their best to select who they think will help the team win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What school district was the “move the position” coach from?

It happened after callbacks and girls were told to play defense. Those girls were I assume trying out for Midfield and they wanted to see how they did defensively. It wasn't a big strategic move.

I know of one who was asked to move from midfield to attack.

Nothing wrong with it and I have seen it in the past.

Say what you want but the evaluators do their best to select who they think
will help the team win.

If you don’t think politics plays a big role you are clueless. You had a high school coach move two of his players to positions they had a better chance st making the team , just two players from his high school tram and no one else .Again if you think that is a level playing field you are clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What school district was the “move the position” coach from?

It happened after callbacks and girls were told to play defense. Those girls were I assume trying out for Midfield and they wanted to see how they did defensively. It wasn't a big strategic move.

I know of one who was asked to move from midfield to attack.

Nothing wrong with it and I have seen it in the past.

Say what you want but the evaluators do their best to select who they think will help the team win.

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.

You must be a real simpleton to believe an evaluator moves 2 kids to new positions and it was just complete coincidence they happen to be on his high school team. If you don’t think the team was 80 % selected before the tryout you are a stunad .

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Your kid must stink if she is stuck on defense and her HS midfield can’t do simple slides and talk. Sorry but if your kid had any talent, the HS coach would move her to midfield in a blink. Look around, weak HS teams play their best payers at midfield all game long. UA was clearly above your kids talent level for sure and now I totally get the jealousy and bitterness you are full of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Your kid must stink if she is stuck on defense and her HS midfield can’t do simple slides and talk. Sorry but if your kid had any talent, the HS coach would move her to midfield in a blink. Look around, weak HS teams play their best payers at midfield all game long. UA was clearly above your kids talent level for sure and now I totally get the jealousy and bitterness you are full of.

Wow! You are just plain mean. You sound like a sociopath. I agree a lot of parents are a bit delusional...a lot delusional but man I guess you don't believe in karma?

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Not trying to offend anyone here.... All the best defensive players I have ever seen are midfielders. Coertainly on HS and most definitely on travel the midfields are far better defenders than the girls actually at the defense position.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Your kid must stink if she is stuck on defense and her HS midfield can’t do simple slides and talk. Sorry but if your kid had any talent, the HS coach would move her to midfield in a blink. Look around, weak HS teams play their best payers at midfield all game long. UA was clearly above your kids talent level for sure and now I totally get the jealousy and bitterness you are full of.

What an idiotic statement. If you feel that there is not a specific skillset to playing defense that is different than playing defensive midfield I don't know what to tell you. It is completely different playing low defense against attackers than playing high defense against midfield. The slides are completely different. The defenders are the ones communicating much more than the midfielders. Some of the best defenders out there could definitely play midfield. Your statement may have been true when the girls were in 4th grade. You need different types of defenders to form a good unit. You need a couple great on ball defenders to play low. Your other two is where coaches can move middies because high defense is very similar to midfield. Clueless to say that a girl must stink if she's playing defense in high school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Not trying to offend anyone here.... All the best defensive players I have ever seen are midfielders. Coertainly on HS and most definitely on travel the midfields are far better defenders than the girls actually at the defense position.

This may be true for lower level club and HS teams. Certainly not true for top teams. Most coaches tell you that they hide their lesser players on attack.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Your kid must stink if she is stuck on defense and her HS midfield can’t do simple slides and talk. Sorry but if your kid had any talent, the HS coach would move her to midfield in a blink. Look around, weak HS teams play their best payers at midfield all game long. UA was clearly above your kids talent level for sure and now I totally get the jealousy and bitterness you are full of.

My kid is in college, playing D and doing awesome. I DO know what i"m talking about. I've been around longer than you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Not trying to offend anyone here.... All the best defensive players I have ever seen are midfielders. Coertainly on HS and most definitely on travel the midfields are far better defenders than the girls actually at the defense position.

This may be true for lower level club and HS teams. Certainly not true for top teams. Most coaches tell you that they hide their lesser players on attack.

Hiding a weak player or two on attack is definitely the least damaging to a team. A very weak defender will get feasted on by an opposing team as soon as the spot the weak link. A weak attacker can simply be used to a lesser degree by a teams offense and not cause to much damage to the teams efforts.

In PAL stunad coaches hide players on defense and try and have their kids score 100. When you finally get a good coach you will see defense becomes important. They put good players there and they actually coach it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]

I know they usually also put one or two true defenders on the roster, then move a couple of mids to fill out the defense. Middies play bothboffense and defense at their position anyway and most are very good at both. True defenders and attackers are typically only good at their trade, and most could not switch from defense to attack or vise versa, and most certainly could not handle the running at midfield. But most midfielders have absolutely no problem playing attack or defense. Collages do the same exact thing, recruit midfielders to play defense.

Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.
[/quote

Not trying to offend anyone here.... All the best defensive players I have ever seen are midfielders. Coertainly on HS and most definitely on travel the midfields are far better defenders than the girls actually at the defense position.

This may be true for lower level club and HS teams. Certainly not true for top teams. Most coaches tell you that they hide their lesser players on attack.

Hiding a weak player or two on attack is definitely the least damaging to a team. A very weak defender will get feasted on by an opposing team as soon as the spot the weak link. A weak attacker can simply be used to a lesser degree by a teams offense and not cause to much damage to the teams efforts.

Don't waste your time debating these fools. Most are non athlete parents who know very little about competitive team sports and even less about building a successful team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In PAL stunad coaches hide players on defense and try and have their kids score 100. When you finally get a good coach you will see defense becomes important. They put good players there and they actually coach it

Wrong....the weak players on PAL played attack. If you wanted to win, you put your best players on midfie and defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In PAL stunad coaches hide players on defense and try and have their kids score 100. When you finally get a good coach you will see defense becomes important. They put good players there and they actually coach it

Wrong....the weak players on PAL played attack. If you wanted to win, you put your best players on midfie and defense.

Ummm...that's what he's saying.

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Thx middie mom

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Good luck at U 19 tryouts. To bad your HS coach won't be able make the switch for you... choose wisely.... like you said... collegw coaches make middies defenders alk the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

That’s what is so hillarious . The coaches in college , the evaluators of UA etc keep telling you that your daughter is too fat and unskilled so they just take the back up middies to play defense yet you keep telling yourself it’s not true . Powderfinger only puts powder on his fingers to mask the smell of the BS he has been digging in all his life. Please tell us the programs that don’t recruit middies before defense or even tell us a top program in the country that the majority of their starting defenders did not play middie in high school . Sorry powder but from now on I will just abuse your nonsensical posts because you have proven yourself to be so ill informed .

Originally Posted by lax101

For the most part they get it right but the process is certainly not perfect. One can always debate the last 5 kids chosen. At least 5 girls made the team for the first time and nearly half the team were 2020. Several strong players from last years team with politics on their side did not make it this year. It is fair to say that the coaches are trying to field the best team they can.

Just looked at the list of players that were invited to try out for the US National U19 Team. I think 21 of the 27 players selected from Long Island were / are Long Island Under Armour players. I do not believe that the same people are involved in selecting the players.

If you do not believe that Kelly Amonte Hiller wants to field the best team possible you are beyond help.

UA does a very good job.

The Sophomore 1st Team All American Defender at Towson played Defense in HS and on her Club Team..
There are no absolutes.. player play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by lax101

For the most part they get it right but the process is certainly not perfect. One can always debate the last 5 kids chosen. At least 5 girls made the team for the first time and nearly half the team were 2020. Several strong players from last years team with politics on their side did not make it this year. It is fair to say that the coaches are trying to field the best team they can.

Just looked at the list of players that were invited to try out for the US National U19 Team. I think 21 of the 27 players selected from Long Island were / are Long Island Under Armour players. I do not believe that the same people are involved in selecting the players.

If you do not believe that Kelly Amonte Hiller wants to field the best team possible you are beyond help.

UA does a very good job.

The U19 tryout selections were based on an application process and Amonte Hiller has not seen the majority play. Being on the UA team I would think was one of the reasons many were selected. If you did not put in an application you were not selected and I believe a lot of to layers did not for various reasons.

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by lax101

For the most part they get it right but the process is certainly not perfect. One can always debate the last 5 kids chosen. At least 5 girls made the team for the first time and nearly half the team were 2020. Several strong players from last years team with politics on their side did not make it this year. It is fair to say that the coaches are trying to field the best team they can.

Just looked at the list of players that were invited to try out for the US National U19 Team. I think 21 of the 27 players selected from Long Island were / are Long Island Under Armour players. I do not believe that the same people are involved in selecting the players.

If you do not believe that Kelly Amonte Hiller wants to field the best team possible you are beyond help.

UA does a very good job.

The U19 tryout selections were based on an application process and Amonte Hiller has not seen the majority play. Being on the UA team I would think was one of the reasons many were selected. If you did not put in an application you were not selected and I believe a lot of to layers did not for various reasons.

Actually, I believe the majority of top (age eligible) players did submit an application. Coach Amonte Hiller and all involved in selecting the players have absolutely watched all of these players play. They have been watching these players while on the recruiting circuit.

The coaches involved absolutely have short lists of the players they believe to be the best in each recruiting class and they want those players at the tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

What????????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by lax101

For the most part they get it right but the process is certainly not perfect. One can always debate the last 5 kids chosen. At least 5 girls made the team for the first time and nearly half the team were 2020. Several strong players from last years team with politics on their side did not make it this year. It is fair to say that the coaches are trying to field the best team they can.

Just looked at the list of players that were invited to try out for the US National U19 Team. I think 21 of the 27 players selected from Long Island were / are Long Island Under Armour players. I do not believe that the same people are involved in selecting the players.

If you do not believe that Kelly Amonte Hiller wants to field the best team possible you are beyond help.

UA does a very good job.

The U19 tryout selections were based on an application process and Amonte Hiller has not seen the majority play. Being on the UA team I would think was one of the reasons many were selected. If you did not put in an application you were not selected and I believe a lot of to layers did not for various reasons.

Seems like a silly statement. Of course KAH has seen all these girls play. It's her job to watch these girls play. You think she's randomly throwing out scholarship offers to random high schoolers without watching them all?

it's true...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

What??????????????

Manhasset coach finally fired.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

What??????????????
[/quote]

Manhasset coach finally fired. [/quote]

Finish # 1 in the country, but last in Manhasset's hearts. Oh, well....

what happens to Liberty? no more funnel from MHS

Huntington should welcome her with open arms!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

What????????
[/quote]

Manhasset coach finally fired. [/quote]

Finish # 1 in the country, but last in Manhasset's hearts. Oh, well....
[/quote]

what does that mean? There has to be some reason for it. what is it?

was she teacher at mhs? what happens with that job?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

What??????????????

Manhasset coach finally fired.

Finish # 1 in the country, but last in Manhasset's hearts. Oh, well....

what does that mean? There has to be some reason for it. what is it?

Even Rosie O'Donnell got cxeld, happens to the best of them...

I heard that Dave K. has been offered the job....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

was she teacher at mhs? what happens with that job?

interested?....kids have to pay you to sit in the classroom.....and you get to charge them for pens and paper..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

That’s what is so hillarious . The coaches in college , the evaluators of UA etc keep telling you that your daughter is too fat and unskilled so they just take the back up middies to play defense yet you keep telling yourself it’s not true . Powderfinger only puts powder on his fingers to mask the smell of the BS he has been digging in all his life. Please tell us the programs that don’t recruit middies before defense or even tell us a top program in the country that the majority of their starting defenders did not play middie in high school . Sorry powder but from now on I will just abuse your nonsensical posts because you have proven yourself to be so ill informed .

Dude, so much vile you spew. WTFever. I'm doing fine and so are my kids. You do you and see how that works out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard that Dave K. has been offered the job....

I am assuming that was a joke?

Yes, they wanted another travel lax director who had experience robbing school districts & parents blind......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, they wanted another travel lax director who had experience robbing school districts & parents blind......

The coaches that don't involve themselves in outside stuff take money under the table to take kids on the team. If you want to play you have to pay some more. Cash only so it's not traceable or taxable!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

[quote=Anonymous]You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best
athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

That’s what is so hilarious. Please tell us the programs that don’t recruit middies before defense or even tell us a top program in the country that the majority of their starting defenders did not play middie in high school . Sorry but from now on I will just abuse your nonsensical posts because you have proven yourself to be so ill informed .

Dude, so much vile you spew. I'm doing fine and so are my kids. You do you and see how that works out.

You should have just left it at you don’t agree with moving middies to defense during tryouts but you had to act as if playing defense in lacrosse is some mystery to midfielders that only you know the truth about “ They don’t understand the slide” . Yes because that is just such a difficult concept to understand .We get it your kid plays defense and you need to believe that only the best play defense in high school because you cannot accept that she never developed the stick skills or athleticism to play midfield

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best
athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

That’s what is so hilarious. Please tell us the programs that don’t recruit middies before defense or even tell us a top program in the country that the majority of their starting defenders did not play middie in high school . Sorry but from now on I will just abuse your nonsensical posts because you have proven yourself to be so ill informed .

Dude, so much vile you spew. I'm doing fine and so are my kids. You do you and see how that works out.

You should have just left it at you don’t agree with moving middies to defense during tryouts but you had to act as if playing defense in lacrosse is some mystery to midfielders that only you know the truth about “ They don’t understand the slide” . Yes because that is just such a difficult concept to understand .We get it your kid plays defense and you need to believe that only the best play defense in high school because you cannot accept that she never developed the stick skills or athleticism to play midfield .

The fact that you're still chirping indicates to all that a nerve has been struck. I've been around the game longer than probably everyone on here, I know what I know. Your anonymous attempt to condescend just reflects on you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

was she teacher at mhs? what happens with that job?

interested?....kids have to pay you to sit in the classroom.....and you get to charge them for pens and paper..

I don't think she was a teacher. She had to do something as I cannot imagine the BOE would fire her without a reason. She likely wants another coaching job so she won't disclose the reason. Have to expect Carol Rose will get more kids now to play for her club team.

We have heard it many times: "Defense wins championships". However, some on this site will never get it. Most of the people who do not get it were never competitive athletes and many have daughters who do not play on competitive teams and will not play at a top 10 college program.

The people that know (high level coaches and players) will tell you just how important defense is. You can not hide anyone on defense and you can not put a selfish player or a weak athlete on the defensive end of the field without negative consequences.

Here is a direct quote from Cornell player Joey Coffee from Lacrosse Magazine:

"Going into my junior year, when I struggled with what it means to be black in this sport, I played a lot of defense that year. It continued to chip away at my mental game. It was almost like a demotion. In my coaches’ eyes, it was really a promotion — an opportunity to really hone in on an innate skill I have of being really athletic and having good feet. But because of these experiences and the way I perceived black female lacrosse players in the past, I thought this was a demotion.

I’m sure you’ve seen that a lot of black lacrosse players tend to be on the defensive end. It does send a message about how we ended up here. Was it solely because we were athletic? Or was it because of the entire package? I’d argue it’s the entire package, but perception is everything in life."

I would agree, it is the "entire package". Smart coaches want their best athletes on the defensive end of the field.

Here is another quote, this one from BC Head Coach Acacia Walker:

“A lot of people talk about our offense, but every single person in our program knows that the defense is 100% the backbone of our team,” Walker-W says. “Not only the backbone, but sort of the stabilizer. They have played such a huge role in any and all of the success that we’ve had. Everyone likes to talk about the goal scorers, but the goal scorers will tell you it’s Lauren Daly back there, it’s Carly Bell back there, Elizabeth Miller, Brooke Troy, Hannah Hyatt. We just have so much experience and they are really the heart and soul of our team.”

Even more important than athleticism is the players mental makeup / mindset. The player must be mentally tough and selfless.

I have read on this site that defense is the easiest way to get on the field in college. Nothing could be further from reality.

Newsday (which is a rag), Know nothing parents and foolish youth / HS coaches are the only ones who do not get it.

BTW, my daughters play midfield. Oh, my son, he is a defender. ;-)

Go watch a game with someone who played or coached a high level college sport or played a professional sport and ask them their opinion on defensive players.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You defensive parents are ridiculous. Your kid plays defense in high school because they don’t have the stick skills to play Middie, are not fast enough, don’t have the motor , in other words just not as good as the middies overall. In general college coaches recruit middies first , attack second , defensive players last for a reason. Yes there are exceptions but in general college coaches know they can take high school middies that were very good and make them into defenders. Rarely do they take high school defenders and make them into middies or attack but they do the reverse on a consistent basis because in high school your best

athletes play middie and your better skilled players who may not have the speed or motor play attack. We get it defensive players don’t get the glory but trying to rewrite history is a joke . Bringing up PAL is just desperation .

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

That’s what is so hilarious. Please tell us the programs that don’t recruit middies before defense or even tell us a top program in the country that the majority of their starting defenders did not play middie in high school . Sorry but from now on I will just abuse your nonsensical posts because you have proven yourself to be so ill informed .

Dude, so much vile you spew. I'm doing fine and so are my kids. You do you and see how that works out.

You should have just left it at you don’t agree with moving middies to defense during tryouts but you had to act as if playing defense in lacrosse is some mystery to midfielders that only you know the truth about “ They don’t understand the slide” . Yes because that is just such a difficult concept to understand .We get it your kid plays defense and you need to believe that only the best play defense in high school because you cannot accept that she never developed the stick skills or athleticism to play midfield .

The fact that you're still chirping indicates to all that a nerve has been struck. I've been around the game longer than probably everyone on here, I know what I know. Your anonymous attempt to condescend just reflects on you.

The fact that you keep acting like a pompous loser reflects exactly who you are . I’ve been around this game longer than the wind blah blah . Quick look shows 12 of the 15 field players that were first team NCAA D1 AA played midfield for their high school teams ,amazing “ they don’t understand the slide “ but we’re able to make such a great accomplishment. Now tell us you’ve been around the game longer than anybody and the college coaches keep getting wrong .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have heard it many times: "Defense wins championships". However, some on this site will never get it. Most of the people who do not get it were never competitive athletes and many have daughters who do not play on competitive teams and will not play at a top 10 college program.

The people that know (high level coaches and players) will tell you just how important defense is. You can not hide anyone on defense and you can not put a selfish player or a weak athlete on the defensive end of the field without negative consequences.

Here is a direct quote from Cornell player Joey Coffee from Lacrosse Magazine:

"Going into my junior year, when I struggled with what it means to be black in this sport, I played a lot of defense that year. It continued to chip away at my mental game. It was almost like a demotion. In my coaches’ eyes, it was really a promotion — an opportunity to really hone in on an innate skill I have of being really athletic and having good feet. But because of these experiences and the way I perceived black female lacrosse players in the past, I thought this was a demotion.

I’m sure you’ve seen that a lot of black lacrosse players tend to be on the defensive end. It does send a message about how we ended up here. Was it solely because we were athletic? Or was it because of the entire package? I’d argue it’s the entire package, but perception is everything in life."

I would agree, it is the "entire package". Smart coaches want their best athletes on the defensive end of the field.

Here is another quote, this one from BC Head Coach Acacia Walker:

“A lot of people talk about our offense, but every single person in our program knows that the defense is 100% the backbone of our team,” Walker-W says. “Not only the backbone, but sort of the stabilizer. They have played such a huge role in any and all of the success that we’ve had. Everyone likes to talk about the goal scorers, but the goal scorers will tell you it’s Lauren Daly back there, it’s Carly Bell back there, Elizabeth Miller, Brooke Troy, Hannah Hyatt. We just have so much experience and they are really the heart and soul of our team.”

Even more important than athleticism is the players mental makeup / mindset. The player must be mentally tough and selfless.

I have read on this site that defense is the easiest way to get on the field in college. Nothing could be further from reality.

Newsday (which is a rag), Know nothing parents and foolish youth / HS coaches are the only ones who do not get it.

BTW, my daughters play midfield. Oh, my son, he is a defender. ;-)

Go watch a game with someone who played or coached a high level college sport or played a professional sport and ask them their opinion on defensive players.

Defense is what got BC and JMU into the Championship Game. Defense won the Championship for JMU.

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

SO do you because plenty of posters on this site have said defense is not important, or that you hide weak players on defense, or that if you have weak stick skill you play defense. So does that make you the chief clown Bozo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

I'll definitely agree with you that college coaches recruit middies and turn them into defense or attack. I'll also agree that more middies are recruited than any other position. Middies are great athletes and play offense and defense, as we all know.

However, the snide remarks by some posters saying that defenders don't have the athleticism or stick skills to cut it as a middie on their high school team are ridiculous.

If you have a really strong HS team, every single player on the field is an athlete with excellent stick skills. If you have a weaker team, other arguments may apply. So the blanket statements made by some posters don't hold up, IMO.

I'd rather be 1 of 12 strong players on a championship team, than a superstar on a team going nowhere. However, we don't always get to choose, so we make the best of the situation.

Enjoy the beautiful game girls!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by lax101

For the most part they get it right but the process is certainly not perfect. One can always debate the last 5 kids chosen. At least 5 girls made the team for the first time and nearly half the team were 2020. Several strong players from last years team with politics on their side did not make it this year. It is fair to say that the coaches are trying to field the best team they can.

Just looked at the list of players that were invited to try out for the US National U19 Team. I think 21 of the 27 players selected from Long Island were / are Long Island Under Armour players. I do not believe that the same people are involved in selecting the players.

If you do not believe that Kelly Amonte Hiller wants to field the best team possible you are beyond help.

UA does a very good job.

The U19 tryout selections were based on an application process and Amonte Hiller has not seen the majority play. Being on the UA team I would think was one of the reasons many were selected. If you did not put in an application you were not selected and I believe a lot of to layers did not for various reasons.

The majority of the best players (especially 18's & 19's) did put in for it. One reason some of the top 18's did not apply was because they are too old. Other than that pretty much all of the top players did register.

To say that KAH or the others involved have not seen the majority play is laughable.

Do you think the selection was random?

How could some of the top 2018s be too old, when there are quite of few 2017s who have already completed a year of college on the invite list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

I'll definitely agree with you that college coaches recruit middies and turn them into defense or attack. I'll also agree that more middies are recruited than any other position. Middies are great athletes and play offense and defense, as we all know.

However, the snide remarks by some posters saying that defenders don't have the athleticism or stick skills to cut it as a middie on their high school team are ridiculous.

If you have a really strong HS team, every single player on the field is an athlete with excellent stick skills. If you have a weaker team, other arguments may apply. So the blanket statements made by some posters don't hold up, IMO.

I'd rather be 1 of 12 strong players on a championship team, than a superstar on a team going nowhere. However, we don't always get to choose, so we make the best of the situation.

Enjoy the beautiful game girls!

Lets be real about this, Unless you play for a top H.S. team, and especially if you play for a mid to low level team, if you have any Lacrosse skills at all your coach is going to make you a midfielder. That doesn't mean your actually a midfielder, it just means your team needs you on both ends of the field (i.e. '16 Sachem East Mid/ florida Def) To say a defender has no stick skills (though it is true in some cases, but is true in all positions) is not true, what they have is a different set of stick skills that not every girl possesses . Lets be real, girls that can shoot between the legs, behind the back, while flipping through the air do posses exceptional skills, but they are by far in the minority, and quite frankly, anyone can score in a lacrosse game, the goalies job is very difficult. What most middies do not posses is the back checking , using the stick to guide , and body positioning that a true defender possesses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

SO do you because plenty of posters on this site have said defense is not important, or that you hide weak players on defense, or that if you have weak stick skill you play defense. So does that make you the chief clown Bozo?

Again it’s difficult to argue w stupid but I will give it a try. Have not seen anyone say defense is not important , my guess is your reading comprehension is the issue .If you think that defenders in general have the stick skills of midfielders or attack at the collegiate level you really are clueless and it’s worse at the high school level . Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How could some of the top 2018s be too old, when there are quite of few 2017s who have already completed a year of college on the invite list?

Players have to be born on or after Sept 1, 1999. Some 2018s were born before Sept 1, 1999 and some 2017s were born after. School cutoff in many areas is Sept 1, and it is not unheard of for parents to wait a year before sending summer birthdays to school on time so they will be oldest instead of youngest - some private schools where I live force this. Other areas have school cutoffs after Sept 1, so you get some 2017s born after Sept 1 because they were able to start school younger, but in other areas they would not have been able to. So. It is completely plausible that some 2018s were too old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

EVERYBODY that can play is a midfielder in HS, rarely is there more than 2-3 impact players on most HS rosters

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

The stick skills to catch the ball from a goalie clear and take the ball up the field and being able to keep the ball in the stick while dodging an attackers ride. You need stick skills to do that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

There you go again powder puff showing a complete lack of understanding .The person you quoted and the person talking about shooting behind their back are two different people . I have yet to hear any of you explain why your kid plays defense and not middie in high school. Would also be curious as to why college coaches very often recruit middies first turning them into both attack and defense while rarely do high school defenders get recruited and converted into attack or middies . The reason is simple , high school middies are the best athletes and defenders don’t have the stick skills to play offense . Now tell us how long you have been around the game ,also wondering if any defender you know has had the stick skills of KO .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard that Dave K. has been offered the job....

DK from Elevate? Nice try Dave, I don't think you can market your way and BS your way into the SET job. They are looking for a lacrosse coach, not a businessman! Keep coaching the powerhouse that is HT and using the free fields at HT to make money off your fan base!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

There you go again powder puff showing a complete lack of understanding .The person you quoted and the person talking about shooting behind their back are two different people . I have yet to hear any of you explain why your kid plays defense and not middie in high school. Would also be curious as to why college coaches very often recruit middies first turning them into both attack and defense while rarely do high school defenders get recruited and converted into attack or middies . The reason is simple , high school middies are the best athletes and defenders don’t have the stick skills to play offense . Now tell us how long you have been around the game ,also wondering if any defender you know has had the stick skills of KO .

This is great. Keep writing, as you are giving everyone a good laugh at your expense. Have a great day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard that Dave K. has been offered the job....

DK from Elevate? Nice try Dave, I don't think you can market your way and BS your way into the SET job. They are looking for a lacrosse coach, not a businessman! Keep coaching the powerhouse that is HT and using the free fields at HT to make money off your fan base!

Businessman??.....surely you jest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

There you go again powder puff showing a complete lack of understanding .The person you quoted and the person talking about shooting behind their back are two different people . I have yet to hear any of you explain why your kid plays defense and not middie in high school. Would also be curious as to why college coaches very often recruit middies first turning them into both attack and defense while rarely do high school defenders get recruited and converted into attack or middies . The reason is simple , high school middies are the best athletes and defenders don’t have the stick skills to play offense . Now tell us how long you have been around the game ,also wondering if any defender you know has had the stick skills of KO .

I don't know where your daughter goes to HS, but this is ridiculous. Check out top IAAM private schools in Baltimore. Do you honestly think that all the best players play midfield? Only 3 midfielders play at a time, and at most HS's there isn't a lot of subbing. It's not like boys lacrosse where you are running multiple lines of middies out there. I know for my daughter's team every starting defender could play midfield. All of them have or even still do for their club team. You have to have athletic defenders with good stick skills to be able to clear the ball. And my daughter isn't a midfielder. A defender on her team is the most sought after player by colleges so far and she plays defense on her club also. She made Under Armour and has made multiple camp all star teams. If you think colleges aren't looking at defenders that's stupid. Will they move middies to defense as well of course. Doesn't mean top defenders aren't in high demand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard that Dave K. has been offered the job....

DK from Elevate? Nice try Dave, I don't think you can market your way and BS your way into the SET job. They are looking for a lacrosse coach, not a businessman! Keep coaching the powerhouse that is HT and using the free fields at HT to make money off your fan base!

This was said in jest - doesn't seem like they were serious at all. There is no way the AD would go for another club coach and deal with the associated headaches. More importantly, is the hearsay about her dismissal true? No news = truth. too bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

There you go again powder puff showing a complete lack of understanding .The person you quoted and the person talking about shooting behind their back are two different people . I have yet to hear any of you explain why your kid plays defense and not middie in high school. Would also be curious as to why college coaches very often recruit middies first turning them into both attack and defense while rarely do high school defenders get recruited and converted into attack or middies . The reason is simple , high school middies are the best athletes and defenders don’t have the stick skills to play offense . Now tell us how long you have been around the game ,also wondering if any defender you know has had the stick skills of KO .

I don't know where your daughter goes to HS, but this is ridiculous. Check out top IAAM private schools in Baltimore. Do you honestly think that all the best players play midfield? Only 3 midfielders play at a time, and at most HS's there isn't a lot of subbing. It's not like boys lacrosse where you are running multiple lines of middies out there. I know for my daughter's team every starting defender could play midfield. All of them have or even still do for their club team. You have to have athletic defenders with good stick skills to be able to clear the ball. And my daughter isn't a midfielder. A defender on her team is the most sought after player by colleges so far and she plays defense on her club also. She made Under Armour and has made multiple camp all star teams. If you think colleges aren't looking at defenders that's stupid. Will they move middies to defense as well of course. Doesn't mean top defenders aren't in high demand.

I am willing to bet that this guy's daughter plays for a weak HS team as well as a weak club team. If she does play for one of the top club teams she is not one of their top midfielders.

Congratulations to your daughter on making Under Armour. I doubt this jokers kid is a UA All-American. More than likely she is an average player who scores a bunch of goals in her HS games and that has caused this guy to think that she is a special player. I am also willing to bet that his daughter did not receive a single offer from any of the top college programs. I am also pretty sure he is the type of guy who thinks having offers from UConn, UNH, Marist and HC is the same as having offers from UNC, Northwestern, Maryland and BC.

Not worth arguing with him. He thinks his daughter is the best and nothing will change his mind.

BTW, the best player / athlete on my daughters club team plays midfield but she is also the teams best defender and plays that position from time to time. The same player was recruited by just about all of the top programs and is committed to one of the best. She is not flashy and is not one of those go to goal types and some of the parents who do not understand the game think other players are better. It's funny, after last summer none of the college coaches thought any of the other players were better and it drove many of the parents crazy.

In general the majority of stronger athletes do play midfield for their HS teams but that does not mean that there are not many exceptions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Please educate us as to your "understanding of the situation" and how you are aware of how it works? Seems like you are accepting the standard line from people in that town. Once again, that is just not how the process works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

"I am willing to bet that this guy's daughter plays for a weak HS team as well as a weak club team. If she does play for one of the top club teams she is not one of their top midfielders.

Congratulations to your daughter on making Under Armour. I doubt this jokers kid is a UA All-American. More than likely she is an average player who scores a bunch of goals in her HS games and that has caused this guy to think that she is a special player. I am also willing to bet that his daughter did not receive a single offer from any of the top college programs. I am also pretty sure he is the type of guy who thinks having offers from UConn, UNH, Marist and HC is the same as having offers from UNC, Northwestern, Maryland and BC.

Not worth arguing with him. He thinks his daughter is the best and nothing will change his mind.

BTW, the best player / athlete on my daughters club team plays midfield but she is also the teams best defender and plays that position from time to time. The same player was recruited by just about all of the top programs and is committed to one of the best. She is not flashy and is not one of those go to goal types and some of the parents who do not understand the game think other players are better. It's funny, after last summer none of the college coaches thought any of the other players were better and it drove many of the parents crazy.

In general the majority of stronger athletes do play midfield for their HS teams but that does not mean that there are not many exceptions."

You people are pathetic. You spend much of your post speculating on my daughter which I find comical . You then go on to prove my point with your idiotic story about the best player on your daughters travel team ,a middie. Then your final sentence is exactly what I have been saying and you and your dopey friends have been arguing against , best athletes play middie. Whats even funnier is your smug attitude toward schools like Marist when your kid is not good enough to play midfield on her high school team. You make it way too easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

While I agree about her talents and lax acumen, to assume that she could go to any school district and automatically win is way off base. In Publics, you are beholden to the student athletes you have in town--so in Manhasset or GC or CSH or a few other perenials, where there is a tremendous wealth of lax players, it makes her HS coaching job a bunch easier. put her in a district where they don't have the Set' farm system and results wouldn't be the same. She has had the best of every coach's dream--talent and supply.
But put her in a private/CHSAA school? With support from an AD? Where she could recruit kids to play there--she would have a build a dynasty. There are any # of Catholic schools that would take her--biz crap and baggage and all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

There you go again powder puff showing a complete lack of understanding .The person you quoted and the person talking about shooting behind their back are two different people . I have yet to hear any of you explain why your kid plays defense and not middie in high school. Would also be curious as to why college coaches very often recruit middies first turning them into both attack and defense while rarely do high school defenders get recruited and converted into attack or middies . The reason is simple , high school middies are the best athletes and defenders don’t have the stick skills to play offense . Now tell us how long you have been around the game ,also wondering if any defender you know has had the stick skills of KO .

I don't know where your daughter goes to HS, but this is ridiculous. Check out top IAAM private schools in Baltimore. Do you honestly think that all the best players play midfield? Only 3 midfielders play at a time, and at most HS's there isn't a lot of subbing. It's not like boys lacrosse where you are running multiple lines of middies out there. I know for my daughter's team every starting defender could play midfield. All of them have or even still do for their club team. You have to have athletic defenders with good stick skills to be able to clear the ball. And my daughter isn't a midfielder. A defender on her team is the most sought after player by colleges so far and she plays defense on her club also. She made Under Armour and has made multiple camp all star teams. If you think colleges aren't looking at defenders that's stupid. Will they move middies to defense as well of course. Doesn't mean top defenders aren't in high demand.

I am willing to bet that this guy's daughter plays for a weak HS team as well as a weak club team. If she does play for one of the top club teams she is not one of their top midfielders.

Congratulations to your daughter on making Under Armour. I doubt this jokers kid is a UA All-American. More than likely she is an average player who scores a bunch of goals in her HS games and that has caused this guy to think that she is a special player. I am also willing to bet that his daughter did not receive a single offer from any of the top college programs. I am also pretty sure he is the type of guy who thinks having offers from UConn, UNH, Marist and HC is the same as having offers from UNC, Northwestern, Maryland and BC.

Not worth arguing with him. He thinks his daughter is the best and nothing will change his mind.

BTW, the best player / athlete on my daughters club team plays midfield but she is also the teams best defender and plays that position from time to time. The same player was recruited by just about all of the top programs and is committed to one of the best. She is not flashy and is not one of those go to goal types and some of the parents who do not understand the game think other players are better. It's funny, after last summer none of the college coaches thought any of the other players were better and it drove many of the parents crazy.

In general the majority of stronger athletes do play midfield for their HS teams but that does not mean that there are not many exceptions.

I didn't read it as a knock on Marist. I think they were implying that not all DI programs are equal just as not all midfielders are equal.

If you are talking about the top middies (on the top club teams) we get it they are usually very good athletes / players. But just being a midfielder in HS does not mean you are one of the top players / athletes .

In the end , who cares and why do you have such a strong need to try and put players down?

Unles your daughter is one of the overall top players in her class she is just another average player. Is she Commited to a top 10 team ? How about top 20? Is she on YJ Top Team? How about TG top team? Liberty? Did she make SG Long Island Team 1? How about UA Underclass Team? Is she older, did she make UA AA Senior team? Was she ranked by Inside Lacrosse? How about an invite to U19 Tryouts? Already in college ? Top 10-20 program? Was she All-Conference ? All-American?

If yes to some of the above then congratulations.

If not she is just another average player like most of our children.

I think people's issue with what you are saying is the fact that you are making a blanket statement disparaging all defenders as not as athletic or that they don't have the stick skills to play midfield and other slights....

My daughter plays defense because she enjoys it. She was selected for SG Team 1, for UA Underclass, etc. She can go to camps and play midfield which she does as well.

Your tone and blanket statements make you sound like a [ChillLaxin] which is why you are getting such blow back.

It's not what you are saying is necessarily incorrect. College coaches do move middies to defense in college. But the great HS and Club defenders are just as highly recruited as the best at any other positions. This is because if coaches can find girls with the same athleticism and stick skills that are already well versed in defensive positioning, communication, clearing, sliding, etc that is quite a valuable piece on your team.

Stop insulting young girls and maybe people won't react in such ways to what you are saying.

Looking for some real advice, my daughter is a 2021 and according to her club coach, she has been gettIng some interest this summer, I know there is new legislation that the coaches can’t contact her until September of her junior year but is there anything We can do to ffacilitate the process for her? Or am I basically just relying on her club coach to communicate? I’m confused by the new process and am curious how are some girls committed already if the coaches can’t talk to them? Any real advice would be greatly appreciated, this is not intended to create an argument or anything like most posts, just need some real advice, thanks in advance.

DG head east to Huntington HS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some real advice, my daughter is a 2021 and according to her club coach, she has been gettIng some interest this summer, I know there is new legislation that the coaches can’t contact her until September of her junior year but is there anything We can do to ffacilitate the process for her? Or am I basically just relying on her club coach to communicate? I’m confused by the new process and am curious how are some girls committed already if the coaches can’t talk to them? Any real advice would be greatly appreciated, this is not intended to create an argument or anything like most posts, just need some real advice, thanks in advance.

Unless they are breaking the rules(which some are) they can reach out to your coach and express "general interest" in your daughter. This usually includes them asking for some feedback on the player from the HS/Club coach and usually also included the college coach asking the HS/Club coach to send the player info for upcoming camps/clinics.

All your daughter can do is email the coaches. Express interest, send their tournament schedules, grades, other info/updates. Go to their camps if really interested in the school. They can at least talk to the coaches there just not about whether they are on their list or anything like that.

Take your time. There's no rush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Please educate us as to your "understanding of the situation" and how you are aware of how it works? Seems like you are accepting the standard line from people in that town. Once again, that is just not how the process works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Please educate us as to your "understanding of the situation" and how you are aware of how it works? Seems like you are accepting the standard line from people in that town. Once again, that is just not how the process works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

My bubble’s intact, thanks. And, yes that’s how the process works. The board of ed doesn’t select coaches or even candidates for that matter. They approve their contract - if they choose too which is 99% of the time. The athletic director recommends or ‘hires’ the coaches for the boards’s approval. Don’t lose any sleep over this ;-)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Please educate us as to your "understanding of the situation" and how you are aware of how it works? Seems like you are accepting the standard line from people in that town. Once again, that is just not how the process works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Please educate us as to your "understanding of the situation" and how you are aware of how it works? Seems like you are accepting the standard line from people in that town. Once again, that is just not how the process works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

My bubble’s intact, thanks. And, yes that’s how the process works. The board of ed doesn’t select coaches or even candidates for that matter. They approve their contract - if they choose too which is 99% of the time. The athletic director recommends or ‘hires’ the coaches for the boards’s approval. Don’t lose any sleep over this ;-)

All you people that are so giddy that she lost the 'set job are like the libtards, be careful what you wish for. I was lucky enough to have DG coach my daughter(no I'm not from 'set) and the way I see it is they just unleashed a dragon. This will most likely go one of 4 ways

1 she takes a college coaching job (and most HS players and coaches better be hoping for that)

2 She takes a job at a Catholic. Probably not SA, but all others are on the block with my money on SHA, Friends or good old St Mary's right down the block, wouldn't that be fun

3 She moves to a school in western Suffolk (in class A Huntington, West Islip, Commack, or in class B Happauge) or takes the Wantagh job (bat for 'set and GC)

4 she just focuses on liberty

Though many College AD's would love to get DG as a coach I doubt thats going to happen. As for the catholics, that becomes a very doable situation, especially St Marys being right in 'set, you would have to wonder how many transfers there would be and how large a crap coach ferraro will take knowing her reign just ended. For my money I would love to see her in Suffolk A for all the obvious reasons. The lest likely is she will just focus on Liberty. How stupid is the 'set district for letting her go, its not like she didn't just win the state, either way there loss is someones gain, and a lot of peoples pain

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think people's issue with what you are saying is the fact that you are making a blanket statement disparaging all defenders as not as athletic or that they don't have the stick skills to play midfield and other slights....

My daughter plays defense because she enjoys it. She was selected for SG Team 1, for UA Underclass, etc. She can go to camps and play midfield which she does as well.

Your tone and blanket statements make you sound like a [ChillLaxin] which is why you are getting such blow back.

It's not what you are saying is necessarily incorrect. College coaches do move middies to defense in college. But the great HS and Club defenders are just as highly recruited as the best at any other positions. This is because if coaches can find girls with the same athleticism and stick skills that are already well versed in defensive positioning, communication, clearing, sliding, etc that is quite a valuable piece on your team.

Stop insulting young girls and maybe people won't react in such ways to what you are saying.

“Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.”

The post that started it all . Your biggest problem is your lack of knowledge or the fact that your kid was a high school defender and it bothers you that she did not play middle . So I am insulting young girls but the original post was not .Great defenders in high school are not recruited as highly as the best attackers and middies in high school no matter how often you say it , it’s just not the case . No one has said there are not exceptions to the rule but for the most part in high school the best players on most teams are the middies .What is your explanation that it is commonplace to have high school midfielders converted to play defense in college but the reverse rarely happens .You have none because you are clueless. You say your kid was selected for UA then please explain why essentially every defender on the 10-11th grade UA LI team is actually a midfielder except one who is the exception, how is that possible , why is that the fact . Until you can come up with a reasonable explanation why the UA defenders are actually middies other than the fact that in high school on LI your best athletes and players are middies you show you are clueless, even Becky knows she does not have the stick skills to play middie .

DG not going to coach at SHA. They pay like crap, every coach they hire is somehow affiliated with school( graduate or parent) and they have reigning coach of year which is ridiculous that she won. DG should of won

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Please educate us as to your "understanding of the situation" and how you are aware of how it works? Seems like you are accepting the standard line from people in that town. Once again, that is just not how the process works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

I doubt this decision was made in haste and isn't likely not based on the one year performance. Things just don't happen that way. It gets approved by the AD, Superintendent, and the BOE. There are a lot of rumors circulating as to why so it will be interesting to see if she can get another job with another school district.

From my understanding of the situation, you're wrong. The AD made the decision not to renew her contract and, thus, not present DG as a personnel choice for the next school year essentially "firing" her. This is a huge loss for Manhasset. To the folks from the class of 17 who started this because they wanted her out, the grass isn't always greener and is NOT for certain in this case. Manhasset's loss will be another community's gain.

Please educate us as to your "understanding of the situation" and how you are aware of how it works? Seems like you are accepting the standard line from people in that town. Once again, that is just not how the process works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

My bubble’s intact, thanks. And, yes that’s how the process works. The board of ed doesn’t select coaches or even candidates for that matter. They approve their contract - if they choose too which is 99% of the time. The athletic director recommends or ‘hires’ the coaches for the boards’s approval. Don’t lose any sleep over this ;-)

All you people that are so giddy that she lost the 'set job are like the libtards, be careful what you wish for. I was lucky enough to have DG coach my daughter(no I'm not from 'set) and the way I see it is they just unleashed a dragon. This will most likely go one of 4 ways

1 she takes a college coaching job (and most HS players and coaches better be hoping for that)

2 She takes a job at a Catholic. Probably not SA, but all others are on the block with my money on SHA, Friends or good old St Mary's right down the block, wouldn't that be fun

3 She moves to a school in western Suffolk (in class A Huntington, West Islip, Commack, or in class B Happauge) or takes the Wantagh job (bat for 'set and GC)

4 she just focuses on liberty

Though many College AD's would love to get DG as a coach I doubt thats going to happen. As for the catholics, that becomes a very doable situation, especially St Marys being right in 'set, you would have to wonder how many transfers there would be and how large a crap coach ferraro will take knowing her reign just ended. For my money I would love to see her in Suffolk A for all the obvious reasons. The lest likely is she will just focus on Liberty. How stupid is the 'set district for letting her go, its not like she didn't just win the state, either way there loss is someones gain, and a lot of peoples pain

High School Coaches don't make that much (less than 10k??)... perhaps Manhasset felt she was leveraging her position as coach to enrich her private business. I watch from afar in GC. When they played us, her team was well oiled machine. very shocking that she was let go...

My guess is she focuses on Liberty as she would probably make up for any income lost. It's also time consuming to run a high level HS program.. return on investment maybe not too favorable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think people's issue with what you are saying is the fact that you are making a blanket statement disparaging all defenders as not as athletic or that they don't have the stick skills to play midfield and other slights....

My daughter plays defense because she enjoys it. She was selected for SG Team 1, for UA Underclass, etc. She can go to camps and play midfield which she does as well.

Your tone and blanket statements make you sound like a [ChillLaxin] which is why you are getting such blow back.

It's not what you are saying is necessarily incorrect. College coaches do move middies to defense in college. But the great HS and Club defenders are just as highly recruited as the best at any other positions. This is because if coaches can find girls with the same athleticism and stick skills that are already well versed in defensive positioning, communication, clearing, sliding, etc that is quite a valuable piece on your team.

Stop insulting young girls and maybe people won't react in such ways to what you are saying.

“Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.”

The post that started it all . Your biggest problem is your lack of knowledge or the fact that your kid was a high school defender and it bothers you that she did not play middle . So I am insulting young girls but the original post was not .Great defenders in high school are not recruited as highly as the best attackers and middies in high school no matter how often you say it , it’s just not the case . No one has said there are not exceptions to the rule but for the most part in high school the best players on most teams are the middies .What is your explanation that it is commonplace to have high school midfielders converted to play defense in college but the reverse rarely happens .You have none because you are clueless. You say your kid was selected for UA then please explain why essentially every defender on the 10-11th grade UA LI team is actually a midfielder except one who is the exception, how is that possible , why is that the fact . Until you can come up with a reasonable explanation why the UA defenders are actually middies other than the fact that in high school on LI your best athletes and players are middies you show you are clueless, even Becky knows she does not have the stick skills to play middie .

I guess this explains why the Senior All American team defenders are almost all from MD and only one from LI. The HS defenders in the top Maryland conferences are all very highly recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG head east to Huntington HS

she likely won't be heading to any public school if the speculation is correct. I doubt any district would hire her. best route is to get a private school job and keep her Liberty program alive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think people's issue with what you are saying is the fact that you are making a blanket statement disparaging all defenders as not as athletic or that they don't have the stick skills to play midfield and other slights....

My daughter plays defense because she enjoys it. She was selected for SG Team 1, for UA Underclass, etc. She can go to camps and play midfield which she does as well.

Your tone and blanket statements make you sound like a [ChillLaxin] which is why you are getting such blow back.

It's not what you are saying is necessarily incorrect. College coaches do move middies to defense in college. But the great HS and Club defenders are just as highly recruited as the best at any other positions. This is because if coaches can find girls with the same athleticism and stick skills that are already well versed in defensive positioning, communication, clearing, sliding, etc that is quite a valuable piece on your team.

Stop insulting young girls and maybe people won't react in such ways to what you are saying.

“Agree that middies are expected to play D. Disagree that they can do it well. Some can, most are mediocre at best. They don't understand the slide, they don't understand how to read the offensive player, they foul when they've lost their player and they do lose their players a lot, they aren't that big on communication which is key when defending. Etc., etc., etc.”

The post that started it all . Your biggest problem is your lack of knowledge or the fact that your kid was a high school defender and it bothers you that she did not play middle . So I am insulting young girls but the original post was not .Great defenders in high school are not recruited as highly as the best attackers and middies in high school no matter how often you say it , it’s just not the case . No one has said there are not exceptions to the rule but for the most part in high school the best players on most teams are the middies .What is your explanation that it is commonplace to have high school midfielders converted to play defense in college but the reverse rarely happens .You have none because you are clueless. You say your kid was selected for UA then please explain why essentially every defender on the 10-11th grade UA LI team is actually a midfielder except one who is the exception, how is that possible , why is that the fact . Until you can come up with a reasonable explanation why the UA defenders are actually middies other than the fact that in high school on LI your best athletes and players are middies you show you are clueless, even Becky knows she does not have the stick skills to play middie .

Plenty of middies will be playing defense in college not because they want to, but because they have to. why? because they aren't natural middies, many of them have offensive stats, but most of them are against bad teams (and there are plenty of bad teams in HS), when it's crunch time the are no where to be seen, they get shut down by good teams, when their team needs a goal the ball isn't going to them. it speaks to the lack of depth in almost every HS program, if a kid can run they're a middie - Plenty of kids recruited as a defenders are playing middie on school team because there are no other options

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG head east to Huntington HS

she likely won't be heading to any public school if the speculation is correct. I doubt any district would hire her. best route is to get a private school job and keep her Liberty program alive.

You're like CNN and MSNBC, no real facts just throwing out innuendo and speculation to defame a good, well loved and respected person because you don't like something about them . I bet you were with her, So enlighten us all Rachel Maddow, what's the "speculation" or are you just lying because you're a Yellow Jacket drone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG head east to Huntington HS

she likely won't be heading to any public school if the speculation is correct. I doubt any district would hire her. best route is to get a private school job and keep her Liberty program alive.

You're like CNN and MSNBC, no real facts just throwing out innuendo and speculation to defame a good, well loved and respected person because you don't like something about them . I bet you were with her, So enlighten us all Rachel Maddow, what's the "speculation" or are you just lying because you're a Yellow Jacket drone

Dude , stop living in the past . Liberty has not been on YJ radar for a long time and honestly do not think that isYJ posting that stuff as they just don’t care .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG head east to Huntington HS

she likely won't be heading to any public school if the speculation is correct. I doubt any district would hire her. best route is to get a private school job and keep her Liberty program alive.

You're like CNN and MSNBC, no real facts just throwing out innuendo and speculation to defame a good, well loved and respected person because you don't like something about them . I bet you were with her, So enlighten us all Rachel Maddow, what's the "speculation" or are you just lying because you're a Yellow Jacket drone

Dude , stop living in the past . Liberty has not been on YJ radar for a long time and honestly do not think that isYJ posting that stuff as they just don’t care .

Dude ..... Who's living in the past? I'm talking about things said today, and yes I do think this is a Yellow Jacket drone posting this stuff, don't you all love to post lies and gossip about each other, let alone every other club. But Dude.... the real joke is that the YJ aren't even that good anymore, you guys can't even win at LFAC anymore, the only tournament you can win is that farce you put on in August at Mitchell Field, and thats only because your playing each other. In all my years being involved in Girls lacrosse I have never heard of a person affiliated with another club say anything about DG or Liberty but Yellow Jacket parents. But I'll ask again , what is this speculation that you talk about? or are you just being your typical YJ parent with nothing but lies and rumor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DG head east to Huntington HS

she likely won't be heading to any public school if the speculation is correct. I doubt any district would hire her. best route is to get a private school job and keep her Liberty program alive.

You're like CNN and MSNBC, no real facts just throwing out innuendo and speculation to defame a good, well loved and respected person because you don't like something about them . I bet you were with her, So enlighten us all Rachel Maddow, what's the "speculation" or are you just lying because you're a Yellow Jacket drone

Dude , stop living in the past . Liberty has not been on YJ radar for a long time and honestly do not think that isYJ posting that stuff as they just don’t care .

Dude ..... Who's living in the past? I'm talking about things said today, and yes I do think this is a Yellow Jacket drone posting this stuff, don't you all love to post lies and gossip about each other, let alone every other club. But Dude.... the real joke is that the YJ aren't even that good anymore, you guys can't even win at LFAC anymore, the only tournament you can win is that farce you put on in August at Mitchell Field, and thats only because your playing each other. In all my years being involved in Girls lacrosse I have never heard of a person affiliated with another club say anything about DG or Liberty but Yellow Jacket parents. But I'll ask again , what is this speculation that you talk about? or are you just being your typical YJ parent with nothing but lies and rumor.

Ok Mom, thanks for the liberty update. Keep drinking whatever they are giving you over there. Ask around about DG incl former players and college coaches. They aren’t all glowing recommendations and much loved or well respected as you would have us believe. Do you really think the AD would dismiss a coach after the season the team had unless he had something? Think about it as it appears you haven’t. You don’t seem well informed for someone that claims to be being involved in lacrosse for many years as you stated.

Considering the rumor was pretty rampant during the last year that she was out, it must have been something that was no longer acceptable for powers that be in Manhasset to not tolerate anymore.
And correct---like all successful people in her position (coach, travel director, person), you never have to look far to find numerous detractors. She has burned many a bridge in her past dealings with folks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Considering the rumor was pretty rampant during the last year that she was out, it must have been something that was no longer acceptable for powers that be in Manhasset to not tolerate anymore.
And correct---like all successful people in her position (coach, travel director, person), you never have to look far to find numerous detractors. She has burned many a bridge in her past dealings with folks.

Wonder what it could have been? Had to have been pretty serious

"Dude ..... Who's living in the past? I'm talking about things said today, and yes I do think this is a Yellow Jacket drone posting this stuff, don't you all love to post lies and gossip about each other, let alone every other club. But Dude.... the real joke is that the YJ aren't even that good anymore, you guys can't even win at LFAC anymore, the only tournament you can win is that farce you put on in August at Mitchell Field, and thats only because your playing each other. In all my years being involved in Girls lacrosse I have never heard of a person affiliated with another club say anything about DG or Liberty but Yellow Jacket parents. But I'll ask again , what is this speculation that you talk about? or are you just being your typical YJ parent with nothing but lies and rumor."

You are truly pathetic, why would YJ parents care if DG lost her school coaching job? Lies and gossip sounds like you and your lady friends have been watching too many housewives shows. You seem to think you are a tough guy who has personally heard YJ parents bash DG then stop being such a weasel and have a conversation with them. For you to go after how good the top YJ teams are is laughable , again YJ parents don't care about Liberty as they have been irrelevant for the last 5 years at every age group. See you later gossip girl.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Dude ..... Who's living in the past? I'm talking about things said today, and yes I do think this is a Yellow Jacket drone posting this stuff, don't you all love to post lies and gossip about each other, let alone every other club. But Dude.... the real joke is that the YJ aren't even that good anymore, you guys can't even win at LFAC anymore, the only tournament you can win is that farce you put on in August at Mitchell Field, and thats only because your playing each other. In all my years being involved in Girls lacrosse I have never heard of a person affiliated with another club say anything about DG or Liberty but Yellow Jacket parents. But I'll ask again , what is this speculation that you talk about? or are you just being your typical YJ parent with nothing but lies and rumor."

You are truly pathetic, why would YJ parents care if DG lost her school coaching job? Lies and gossip sounds like you and your lady friends have been watching too many housewives shows. You seem to think you are a tough guy who has personally heard YJ parents bash DG then stop being such a weasel and have a conversation with them. For you to go after how good the top YJ teams are is laughable , again YJ parents don't care about Liberty as they have been irrelevant for the last 5 years at every age group. See you later gossip girl.

As irrelevant as Yellow Jackets have become this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Considering the rumor was pretty rampant during the last year that she was out, it must have been something that was no longer acceptable for powers that be in Manhasset to not tolerate anymore.
And correct---like all successful people in her position (coach, travel director, person), you never have to look far to find numerous detractors. She has burned many a bridge in her past dealings with folks.

Wonder what it could have been? Had to have been pretty serious

Could be a harbinger of things to come, the school coach/club coach conflict is hitting critical mass and some schools are deciding that its time to choose one or the other. Sett can compete with anyone coaching, so it's a pretty safe bet for them to do this and set an example, I'm sure other HS AD's will take notice as many hear complaints about pay to play coaches all the time

Hey Sherlock, Mitchell tourney has been done for 3 years. Most of the DG bashing comes from liberty parents. If you don’t live in Set , she treats you like a mirage. The same thing happens at YJ, if you don’t live in the big 3 zip codes(NP, Mt. Sinai or ESM) you are irreverent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Sherlock, Mitchell tourney has been done for 3 years. Most of the DG bashing comes from liberty parents. If you don’t live in Set , she treats you like a mirage. The same thing happens at YJ, if you don’t live in the big 3 zip codes(NP, Mt. Sinai or ESM) you are irreverent.

That’s kind of petty but I could see that since she is HS coach of Manhasset and would want to get her girls playing time at Liberty. Then where do the GC, CSH, Syosset, girls play club? Serious question as there seems to be so much politics involved with selecting a club. I see some of them scattered throughout. Is Igloo the best option?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Sherlock, Mitchell tourney has been done for 3 years. Most of the DG bashing comes from liberty parents. If you don’t live in Set , she treats you like a mirage. The same thing happens at YJ, if you don’t live in the big 3 zip codes(NP, Mt. Sinai or ESM) you are irreverent.

That’s kind of petty but I could see that since she is HS coach of Manhasset and would want to get her girls playing time at Liberty. Then where do the GC, CSH, Syosset, girls play club? Serious question as there seems to be so much politics involved with selecting a club. I see some of them scattered throughout. Is Igloo the best option?

I'm from GC and my daughter plays Liberty - no issues at all. Playing time - great - Recruiting - great.

That said, don't concern yourself with the generalizations out there - they effect only a few. It's about you and your daughter's experience. If she's a talented athlete and puts the time and effort in, she'll be noticed regardless of what town she's from and what club she plays for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Sherlock, Mitchell tourney has been done for 3 years. Most of the DG bashing comes from liberty parents. If you don’t live in Set , she treats you like a mirage. The same thing happens at YJ, if you don’t live in the big 3 zip codes(NP, Mt. Sinai or ESM) you are irreverent.

That’s kind of petty but I could see that since she is HS coach of Manhasset and would want to get her girls playing time at Liberty. Then where do the GC, CSH, Syosset, girls play club? Serious question as there seems to be so much politics involved with selecting a club. I see some of them scattered throughout. Is Igloo the best option?

bashing is rampant on this site but i think DG gets what she deserves. While club affiliation and HS team are certainly a possible reason for her firing, I doubt that was the sole reason nor the determining factor. The district has put up with it for years and now they turn? seems to be deeper than that. It really doesn't matter which club you play for - if your daughter can play, she will be seen. However, it does appear YJ has the most contacts among college coaches.

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Appreciate the feedback.. so would you go with Liberty knowing what you know? I’m in Nassau and hope to stay close to home (GC). Were there any other clubs you considered?

It should be interesting to see how Liberty does going forward without the pipeline of manhasset girls. Parents and kids aren't going to be so quick to choose Liberty to appease DG!

I'm from GC too and have been around girls lax for quite awhile. Go with Liberty - it's easier for travel to and from practices (YJ is Suffolk based and travel time to their practices is an hour each way).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Appreciate the feedback.. so would you go with Liberty knowing what you know? I’m in Nassau and hope to stay close to home (GC). Were there any other clubs you considered?

We liked Liberty..the local practices worked out well and the training you get is at least as much/more than what other programs offer. Liberty plays in a decent # of tournaments that are competitive.
Compared to an Elevate, another North Shore program, it w/b a no brainer to go with Liberty--"crook" element is a lot less!

I wanted to offer some info based on the facts. Based on the "Alumni/Commitment" section of the liberty website, 11 of the 16 "Class of 2019" commitments are non-Manhasset players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Appreciate the feedback.. so would you go with Liberty knowing what you know? I’m in Nassau and hope to stay close to home (GC). Were there any other clubs you considered?

We liked Liberty..the local practices worked out well and the training you get is at least as much/more than what other programs offer. Liberty plays in a decent # of tournaments that are competitive.
Compared to an Elevate, another North Shore program, it w/b a no brainer to go with Liberty--"crook" element is a lot less!

Crook element? Really? Well looks like DG is now part of that considering the speculation surrounding her firing. I would go YJ or Top Guns. Both quality programs. Liberty is winding down. Couldn’t fill 2 teams per grade this year. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wanted to offer some info based on the facts. Based on the "Alumni/Commitment" section of the liberty website, 11 of the 16 "Class of 2019" commitments are non-Manhasset players.

Interesting statistics but at least two of those girls or Top Guns until this summer. The only reason they left Top Guns was to play with their Garden City friends. So they weren’t committed while playing for liberty. They’re playing for liberty for fun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Appreciate the feedback.. so would you go with Liberty knowing what you know? I’m in Nassau and hope to stay close to home (GC). Were there any other clubs you considered?

We liked Liberty..the local practices worked out well and the training you get is at least as much/more than what other programs offer. Liberty plays in a decent # of tournaments that are competitive.
Compared to an Elevate, another North Shore program, it w/b a no brainer to go with Liberty--"crook" element is a lot less!

Crook element? Really? Well looks like DG is now part of that considering the speculation surrounding her firing. I would go YJ or Top Guns. Both quality programs. Liberty is winding down. Couldn’t fill 2 teams per grade this year. Good luck.

as many folks here have alluded to...what is the "speculation" you speak of?..please do us all a favor and shed some light on the "speculation"....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Appreciate the feedback.. so would you go with Liberty knowing what you know? I’m in Nassau and hope to stay close to home (GC). Were there any other clubs you considered?

Absolutely would go with Liberty and I live out in Suffolk. Daughter does NOT play Liberty. She and her liberty staff are amazing coaches and she coached the #1 ranked HS team in the country this year. I saw somebody mention Elevate for Nassau - the coaching on that club is not good. They pull some good kids from CSH and huntington but the coaching really lacks and I wont comment on the director of that club (can leave that to others). Take Liberty hands down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Appreciate the feedback.. so would you go with Liberty knowing what you know? I’m in Nassau and hope to stay close to home (GC). Were there any other clubs you considered?

We liked Liberty..the local practices worked out well and the training you get is at least as much/more than what other programs offer. Liberty plays in a decent # of tournaments that are competitive.
Compared to an Elevate, another North Shore program, it w/b a no brainer to go with Liberty--"crook" element is a lot less!

Crook element? Really? Well looks like DG is now part of that considering the speculation surrounding her firing. I would go YJ or Top Guns. Both quality programs. Liberty is winding down. Couldn’t fill 2 teams per grade this year. Good luck.

Liberty absolutely has 2 teams in age groups - we played their Red team (2nd team a few weeks ago). If you post something at least be honest and factual.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wanted to offer some info based on the facts. Based on the "Alumni/Commitment" section of the liberty website, 11 of the 16 "Class of 2019" commitments are non-Manhasset players. [/quote

Those 2 girls you mentioned are not on the Liberty list. They are still listed on the TG website, Florida and Fairfield.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Dude ..... Who's living in the past? I'm talking about things said today, and yes I do think this is a Yellow Jacket drone posting this stuff, don't you all love to post lies and gossip about each other, let alone every other club. But Dude.... the real joke is that the YJ aren't even that good anymore, you guys can't even win at LFAC anymore, the only tournament you can win is that farce you put on in August at Mitchell Field, and thats only because your playing each other. In all my years being involved in Girls lacrosse I have never heard of a person affiliated with another club say anything about DG or Liberty but Yellow Jacket parents. But I'll ask again , what is this speculation that you talk about? or are you just being your typical YJ parent with nothing but lies and rumor."

You are truly pathetic, why would YJ parents care if DG lost her school coaching job? Lies and gossip sounds like you and your lady friends have been watching too many housewives shows. You seem to think you are a tough guy who has personally heard YJ parents bash DG then stop being such a weasel and have a conversation with them. For you to go after how good the top YJ teams are is laughable , again YJ parents don't care about Liberty as they have been irrelevant for the last 5 years at every age group. See you later gossip girl.

As irrelevant as Yellow Jackets have become this year?

No , Liberty has been way more irrelevant from their start . Has Liberty ever had the best team on LI in any age group. I would say YJ probably has the top team in every age group on LI in 3 out of every 4 age groups possibly more .YJ still dominating the amount of players on teams representing LI like UA. YJ still has much better commitments to college programs .

I live out in suffolk and my daughter played liberty, All the negative things you see posted about DG i never experienced in all my time dealing with her. She was very attentive to my daughters individual recruiting needs and was very honest and forthright with us. Meg is absolutely fantastic with the girls and my daughter swears by them. The parents, not only from 'set, but from all the towns represented on my daughters team were fun and engaging. DG is no more slanted towards her 'set girls than CR is to Northport girls, BT is to ESM girls or AB is to Mts girls. To all the parents that respect DG there is a petition on the Change.org site to support her. Anything a parent on here reads from any person that is not affiliated with or a part of liberty does not know what they are talking about. Many parents get angry (or at least they did when we were on the team) because DG actually makes cuts because she does not want any more teams than she can handle, and give personal attention to (the real reason behind having only 2 teams per age)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live out in suffolk and my daughter played liberty, All the negative things you see posted about DG i never experienced in all my time dealing with her. She was very attentive to my daughters individual recruiting needs and was very honest and forthright with us. Meg is absolutely fantastic with the girls and my daughter swears by them. The parents, not only from 'set, but from all the towns represented on my daughters team were fun and engaging. DG is no more slanted towards her 'set girls than CR is to Northport girls, BT is to ESM girls or AB is to Mts girls. To all the parents that respect DG there is a petition on the Change.org site to support her. Anything a parent on here reads from any person that is not affiliated with or a part of liberty does not know what they are talking about. Many parents get angry (or at least they did when we were on the team) because DG actually makes cuts because she does not want any more teams than she can handle, and give personal attention to (the real reason behind having only 2 teams per age)

Thanks for the honest insight. As I said, we want a decent club close to home. We are realistic with our expectations and just want a reputable program in Nassau with good coaching. Well then hopefully, the Liberty club can continue and not wind down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live out in suffolk and my daughter played liberty, All the negative things you see posted about DG i never experienced in all my time dealing with her. She was very attentive to my daughters individual recruiting needs and was very honest and forthright with us. Meg is absolutely fantastic with the girls and my daughter swears by them. The parents, not only from 'set, but from all the towns represented on my daughters team were fun and engaging. DG is no more slanted towards her 'set girls than CR is to Northport girls, BT is to ESM girls or AB is to Mts girls. To all the parents that respect DG there is a petition on the Change.org site to support her. Anything a parent on here reads from any person that is not affiliated with or a part of liberty does not know what they are talking about. Many parents get angry (or at least they did when we were on the team) because DG actually makes cuts because she does not want any more teams than she can handle, and give personal attention to (the real reason behind having only 2 teams per age)

The Manhasset girls varsity lacrosse coach was not reappointed to her role about two weeks after she led the team to a Class B state championship win.

The members of the team, and many of their parents, filled the Charlie Cardillo Community Room at Thursday night’s Board of Education meeting to voice concern over the district’s decision to not reappointing coach Danielle Gallagher.

One mother said the decision robs the team of all they accomplished – adding that Gallagher’s removal taints the girls state win on June 9.

The board said they could not discuss personnel matters in public.

“Personnel is personal,” Trustee Pat Aitken said.

All coaching assignments are made as year-to-year appointments, and recommendations for upcoming coaching assignments will be made over the summer.

Board President Regina Rule said this was the first she was hearing of the situation as well.

“I had a daughter on the 2014 team, so I have a sense of what you all are feeling in terms of celebratory mood that you had and the joy that you had on the field this year,” Rule said. ” … And i just want to say my heart is with you and we wish for you the best.”

Rule added that she’s grateful to the parents and students that came out, and thanks them for “understanding what we need to go through in following up with this.”

The board suggested a group of two to four people set up an appointment to discuss with Superintendent Vincent Butera.

Butera said he can meet as early as the first week of July.

“I can understand the frustration with the process, but there are things we can’t say,” Butera said.

Efforts to reach Gallagher were unavailing.

Gallagher, a two-time first team All-American athlete at the College of William and Mary, has been coaching the Manhasset team for about eight years and coached the team to a state championship victory in 2014 as well.

She’s served as a member of the U.S. Elite Women’s Lacrosse team beginning in 1987__

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To Manhasset Parents, Alumni, Future Girls Lacrosse Players of Manhasset, and Other Supporters,

Appallingly, the Varsity Girls Lacrosse Coach, Danielle Gallagher, was told by the Athletic Director, Jim Amen that “We are moving in a different direction”, and that her 13-year coaching tenure at Manhasset was finished. There were no other reasons given, as Mr. Amen indicated that ‘he didn’t have to, coaching is a season, to season contract”.

At this week’s Manhasset school board meeting, the Manhasset Girls Varsity Team was recognized for their incredible season, winning the Nassau County, Long Island and New York State Championships. Missing from this momentous acknowledgement was their leader and coach, Danielle Gallagher.

At the meeting, parents and team players filled the room and spoke about Danielle’s passion for the sport, the amazing season that the girls had just finished, the importance of Danielle in the recruiting process, her leadership and willingness to be a part of the girls lives 365 days of the years, as opposed to just the season, her knowledge, her critical eye, her relationship with the girls – and so many other emotions and valued comments.

Questions evolved regarding – “How does the athletic director have this power, without consulting the school board”. It was explained that in the past, the athletic director addresses his recommendations to the superintendent’s office, which is then reviewed and indicated on a personnel schedule that the board votes on every time it meets. Regina Rule, the President of the Board, also indicated that the board cannot comment on personnel matters in an open forum, like the board meeting.

The board assured that in a timely matter, they would accept letters, emails, and meetings with Dr. Butera, to establish some sort of understanding of the actions of Mr. Amen.

Of the 40 years of history of girls lacrosse at Manhasset, Danielle has been a key component for 13 years. That’s over 32% of the legacy of Manhasset Girls Lacrosse! After winning a State Championship – what other direction is there but down?

You’re not correct. Those 2 players are not on the list. I guess what you’re saying is if your daughter doesn’t want to have fun, play for Top Guns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re not correct. Those 2 players are not on the list. I guess what you’re saying is if your daughter doesn’t want to have fun, play for Top Guns.

I was curious so I took a peek. They don’t even have all of their commits up. My niece is a 2018 (non set) who has played for liberty forever. She’s not listed and will play in college. I think DG helps those who want to help themselves. Regardless of what town they live in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re not correct. Those 2 players are not on the list. I guess what you’re saying is if your daughter doesn’t want to have fun, play for Top Guns.

My daughter plays for TG and loves it. But if I lived in western Nassau there is NO WAY I would drive to west bab for practice twice a week. It’s about time and convenience

Pretty extraordinary when past players post a public Facebook statement exposing/denouncing their coach. And over 125 past players/parents/school alum like it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Dude ..... Who's living in the past? I'm talking about things said today, and yes I do think this is a Yellow Jacket drone posting this stuff, don't you all love to post lies and gossip about each other, let alone every other club. But Dude.... the real joke is that the YJ aren't even that good anymore, you guys can't even win at LFAC anymore, the only tournament you can win is that farce you put on in August at Mitchell Field, and thats only because your playing each other. In all my years being involved in Girls lacrosse I have never heard of a person affiliated with another club say anything about DG or Liberty but Yellow Jacket parents. But I'll ask again , what is this speculation that you talk about? or are you just being your typical YJ parent with nothing but lies and rumor."

You are truly pathetic, why would YJ parents care if DG lost her school coaching job? Lies and gossip sounds like you and your lady friends have been watching too many housewives shows. You seem to think you are a tough guy who has personally heard YJ parents bash DG then stop being such a weasel and have a conversation with them. For you to go after how good the top YJ teams are is laughable , again YJ parents don't care about Liberty as they have been irrelevant for the last 5 years at every age group. See you later gossip girl.

As irrelevant as Yellow Jackets have become this year?

No , Liberty has been way more irrelevant from their start . Has Liberty ever had the best team on LI in any age group. I would say YJ probably has the top team in every age group on LI in 3 out of every 4 age groups possibly more .YJ still dominating the amount of players on teams representing LI like UA. YJ still has much better commitments to college programs .

We recently played Liberty 2019 Black and they are very good. If not the best they are one of the top teams. I went and looked at the 2019 Liberty recruits and they have an impressive list which explains why they have such a strong team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has fair share of all different areas represented. Manhasset is a big chunk but there are various areas involved too. In our experience, we didn't see overt favoritism towards Set' girls...although they often were the most "chummy" with staff/coaches/DG.
Like any director/program, really the vast amount of girls are just paying the bills for program and they become the gravy for director. DG is not different.

Appreciate the feedback.. so would you go with Liberty knowing what you know? I’m in Nassau and hope to stay close to home (GC). Were there any other clubs you considered?

Absolutely would go with Liberty and I live out in Suffolk. Daughter does NOT play Liberty. She and her liberty staff are amazing coaches and she coached the #1 ranked HS team in the country this year. I saw somebody mention Elevate for Nassau - the coaching on that club is not good. They pull some good kids from CSH and huntington but the coaching really lacks and I wont comment on the director of that club (can leave that to others). Take Liberty hands down.

STAY AWAY from Elevate and the Directors in that club. Just awful and the coaching is NON existent.

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

They’ve been living with this for such a long time that I think it had to be something having to do with a grade change or something academics like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

How is that different than CR at Northport, Tracy weiner at Farmingde and all the YJ coaches? Elevate at Trinity? The other elevate director at Friends? And so on acrosss the island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

NJ has a rule that prevents coaches who run club teams from coaching at the HS level. Makes it easy to avoid conflict of interests. NY should institute the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty extraordinary when past players post a public Facebook statement exposing/denouncing their coach. And over 125 past players/parents/school alum like it.

Agreed. Kudos to that woman for finding the strength to speak about it. This is highly unlikely a one time occurrence either. It really is a sad way to treat young women as an adult coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

How is that different than CR at Northport, Tracy weiner at Farmingde and all the YJ coaches? Elevate at Trinity? The other elevate director at Friends? And so on acrosss the island?

Danielle is not a teacher. Nor a full time employee of the school district. She is an outside contractor. As such, she is employed on a year to year basis. Private schools can hire whomever they want as they are well, private. CR is a teacher at Northport. I'm not sure of the others but you get the idea.

It is obviously a conflict of interest. If your kid didn't play for her HS coaches club yet some of the kids on her HS team did, you don't think that's a problem? Don't you think the coach should be beyond reproach? Do you your daughter's Math teacher to tutor her? Of course not. But it's allowed in a school sport. Can't have double standards - the policy needs to be uniform.

It's an issue across NYS not just the schools mentioned above. While this may have contributed to the firing of DG, I doubt its's the sole reason. Any insight as to other reasons?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

Yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty extraordinary when past players post a public Facebook statement exposing/denouncing their coach. And over 125 past players/parents/school alum like it.

Agreed. Kudos to that woman for finding the strength to speak about it. This is highly unlikely a one time occurrence either. It really is a sad way to treat young women as an adult coach.

what is the facebook link?..if you want to share...?..thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

How is that different than CR at Northport, Tracy weiner at Farmingde and all the YJ coaches? Elevate at Trinity? The other elevate director at Friends? And so on acrosss the island?

Danielle is not a teacher. Nor a full time employee of the school district. She is an outside contractor. As such, she is employed on a year to year basis. Private schools can hire whomever they want as they are well, private. CR is a teacher at Northport. I'm not sure of the others but you get the idea.

It is obviously a conflict of interest. If your kid didn't play for her HS coaches club yet some of the kids on her HS team did, you don't think that's a problem? Don't you think the coach should be beyond reproach? Do you your daughter's Math teacher to tutor her? Of course not. But it's allowed in a school sport. Can't have double standards - the policy needs to be uniform.

It's an issue across NYS not just the schools mentioned above. While this may have contributed to the firing of DG, I doubt its's the sole reason. Any insight as to other reasons?

So....what I find interesting that not too long ago (less than 10 years) all the rage was getting HS coaches to coach summer teams. It was said......great to have my HS coach as summer coach, great that players can learn HS system, great that team will learn to play together...oh yea the infamous- great not to have a "daddy" coach.... great that the cost should be cheaper than the few very selective travel teams, etc......... Fast forward to now......and you all are saying.....Get rid of these money hungry HS coaches who don't like my kid and therefore don't play my kid......Sooooo for all you whiners what is your solution??? Cant have "daddy coach, cant have college kid coach (all they do is wear flip flops), cant have a HS coach........So WHO coaches???? The truth is chances are most of the girls playing summer travel are not good enough to play under the old travel model which only had a few highly selective teams. Now with more teams more girls get opportunity to play. I'm curious to see some of the solutions to who can/should coach.....but I'm sure will receive more stupid comments than solutions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty extraordinary when past players post a public Facebook statement exposing/denouncing their coach. And over 125 past players/parents/school alum like it.

Agreed. Kudos to that woman for finding the strength to speak about it. This is highly unlikely a one time occurrence either. It really is a sad way to treat young women as an adult coach.

what is the facebook link?..if you want to share...?..thanks

I'd like to see it too. There's a FB page supporting DG but I didn't seeing one denouncing her. Can you share?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

How is that different than CR at Northport, Tracy weiner at Farmingde and all the YJ coaches? Elevate at Trinity? The other elevate director at Friends? And so on acrosss the island?

Danielle is not a teacher. Nor a full time employee of the school district. She is an outside contractor. As such, she is employed on a year to year basis. Private schools can hire whomever they want as they are well, private. CR is a teacher at Northport. I'm not sure of the others but you get the idea.

It is obviously a conflict of interest. If your kid didn't play for her HS coaches club yet some of the kids on her HS team did, you don't think that's a problem? Don't you think the coach should be beyond reproach? Do you your daughter's Math teacher to tutor her? Of course not. But it's allowed in a school sport. Can't have double standards - the policy needs to be uniform.

It's an issue across NYS not just the schools mentioned above. While this may have contributed to the firing of DG, I doubt its's the sole reason. Any insight as to other reasons?

So....what I find interesting that not too long ago (less than 10 years) all the rage was getting HS coaches to coach summer teams. It was said......great to have my HS coach as summer coach, great that players can learn HS system, great that team will learn to play together...oh yea the infamous- great not to have a "daddy" coach.... great that the cost should be cheaper than the few very selective travel teams, etc......... Fast forward to now......and you all are saying.....Get rid of these money hungry HS coaches who don't like my kid and therefore don't play my kid......Sooooo for all you whiners what is your solution??? Cant have "daddy coach, cant have college kid coach (all they do is wear flip flops), cant have a HS coach........So WHO coaches???? The truth is chances are most of the girls playing summer travel are not good enough to play under the old travel model which only had a few highly selective teams. Now with more teams more girls get opportunity to play. I'm curious to see some of the solutions to who can/should coach.....but I'm sure will receive more stupid comments than solutions

Maybe you feel that way with coaching in the past. However, a family should have the choice to play on any travel team not just the one associated with their town including Manhasset with Liberty and YJ with Northport. A coach cannot be objective with that type of conflict - do they choose the starter based on skill or the one that is paying them fees to be on their club? or the one that pays them money to give them privates? Their is an obvious conflict so remove it entirely. Will the coach be objective when a college coach asks about players? Perhaps but no one knows for certain. Certain teams are good and competitive but not all as you mention. Usually the top teams for most of these clubs are good and those top players get recruited to some top college lacrosse programs. I don't care who owns the club or coaches for the club but the school district cannot have that conflict - if you want to coach a HS club team or own it then you can't coach the HS team. There is an inherent conflict. School policy dictates a teacher cannot tutor their own students and the same policy should exist for the HS coaches and the players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

How is that different than CR at Northport, Tracy weiner at Farmingde and all the YJ coaches? Elevate at Trinity? The other elevate director at Friends? And so on acrosss the island?

Danielle is not a teacher. Nor a full time employee of the school district. She is an outside contractor. As such, she is employed on a year to year basis. Private schools can hire whomever they want as they are well, private. CR is a teacher at Northport. I'm not sure of the others but you get the idea.

It is obviously a conflict of interest. If your kid didn't play for her HS coaches club yet some of the kids on her HS team did, you don't think that's a problem? Don't you think the coach should be beyond reproach? Do you your daughter's Math teacher to tutor her? Of course not. But it's allowed in a school sport. Can't have double standards - the policy needs to be uniform.

It's an issue across NYS not just the schools mentioned above. While this may have contributed to the firing of DG, I doubt its's the sole reason. Any insight as to other reasons?

So....what I find interesting that not too long ago (less than 10 years) all the rage was getting HS coaches to coach summer teams. It was said......great to have my HS coach as summer coach, great that players can learn HS system, great that team will learn to play together...oh yea the infamous- great not to have a "daddy" coach.... great that the cost should be cheaper than the few very selective travel teams, etc......... Fast forward to now......and you all are saying.....Get rid of these money hungry HS coaches who don't like my kid and therefore don't play my kid......Sooooo for all you whiners what is your solution??? Cant have "daddy coach, cant have college kid coach (all they do is wear flip flops), cant have a HS coach........So WHO coaches???? The truth is chances are most of the girls playing summer travel are not good enough to play under the old travel model which only had a few highly selective teams. Now with more teams more girls get opportunity to play. I'm curious to see some of the solutions to who can/should coach.....but I'm sure will receive more stupid comments than solutions

Danielle only coaches one Liberty team so she manages to get a whole bunch of other folks to coach...
I agree that if what's good/bad for a teacher regarding tutoring a student, then same rules should apply to a HS coach....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

How is that different than CR at Northport, Tracy weiner at Farmingde and all the YJ coaches? Elevate at Trinity? The other elevate director at Friends? And so on acrosss the island?

Danielle is not a teacher. Nor a full time employee of the school district. She is an outside contractor. As such, she is employed on a year to year basis. Private schools can hire whomever they want as they are well, private. CR is a teacher at Northport. I'm not sure of the others but you get the idea.

It is obviously a conflict of interest. If your kid didn't play for her HS coaches club yet some of the kids on her HS team did, you don't think that's a problem? Don't you think the coach should be beyond reproach? Do you your daughter's Math teacher to tutor her? Of course not. But it's allowed in a school sport. Can't have double standards - the policy needs to be uniform.

It's an issue across NYS not just the schools mentioned above. While this may have contributed to the firing of DG, I doubt its's the sole reason. Any insight as to other reasons?

So....what I find interesting that not too long ago (less than 10 years) all the rage was getting HS coaches to coach summer teams. It was said......great to have my HS coach as summer coach, great that players can learn HS system, great that team will learn to play together...oh yea the infamous- great not to have a "daddy" coach.... great that the cost should be cheaper than the few very selective travel teams, etc......... Fast forward to now......and you all are saying.....Get rid of these money hungry HS coaches who don't like my kid and therefore don't play my kid......Sooooo for all you whiners what is your solution??? Cant have "daddy coach, cant have college kid coach (all they do is wear flip flops), cant have a HS coach........So WHO coaches???? The truth is chances are most of the girls playing summer travel are not good enough to play under the old travel model which only had a few highly selective teams. Now with more teams more girls get opportunity to play. I'm curious to see some of the solutions to who can/should coach.....but I'm sure will receive more stupid comments than solutions

Amen!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live out in suffolk and my daughter played liberty, All the negative things you see posted about DG i never experienced in all my time dealing with her. She was very attentive to my daughters individual recruiting needs and was very honest and forthright with us. Meg is absolutely fantastic with the girls and my daughter swears by them. The parents, not only from 'set, but from all the towns represented on my daughters team were fun and engaging. DG is no more slanted towards her 'set girls than CR is to Northport girls, BT is to ESM girls or AB is to Mts girls. To all the parents that respect DG there is a petition on the Change.org site to support her. Anything a parent on here reads from any person that is not affiliated with or a part of liberty does not know what they are talking about. Many parents get angry (or at least they did when we were on the team) because DG actually makes cuts because she does not want any more teams than she can handle, and give personal attention to (the real reason behind having only 2 teams per age)

Thanks for the honest insight. As I said, we want a decent club close to home. We are realistic with our expectations and just want a reputable program in Nassau with good coaching. Well then hopefully, the Liberty club can continue and not wind down.

Bottom line is every college coach returns DG's phone calls, it's a very small fraternity and she has relationships with just about every coach that matters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

If you think these club owners care about anything other than your check clearing you're a lost cause. I can't imagine them taking the time to plot against your superstar daughter because she is playing for another club. More often than not, the kid is just not as good a player as the parents think, HS and Club lax can be a lot different from her glory days at the PAL field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

How is that different than CR at Northport, Tracy weiner at Farmingde and all the YJ coaches? Elevate at Trinity? The other elevate director at Friends? And so on acrosss the island?

Danielle is not a teacher. Nor a full time employee of the school district. She is an outside contractor. As such, she is employed on a year to year basis. Private schools can hire whomever they want as they are well, private. CR is a teacher at Northport. I'm not sure of the others but you get the idea.

It is obviously a conflict of interest. If your kid didn't play for her HS coaches club yet some of the kids on her HS team did, you don't think that's a problem? Don't you think the coach should be beyond reproach? Do you your daughter's Math teacher to tutor her? Of course not. But it's allowed in a school sport. Can't have double standards - the policy needs to be uniform.

It's an issue across NYS not just the schools mentioned above. While this may have contributed to the firing of DG, I doubt its's the sole reason. Any insight as to other reasons?

So....what I find interesting that not too long ago (less than 10 years) all the rage was getting HS coaches to coach summer teams. It was said......great to have my HS coach as summer coach, great that players can learn HS system, great that team will learn to play together...oh yea the infamous- great not to have a "daddy" coach.... great that the cost should be cheaper than the few very selective travel teams, etc......... Fast forward to now......and you all are saying.....Get rid of these money hungry HS coaches who don't like my kid and therefore don't play my kid......Sooooo for all you whiners what is your solution??? Cant have "daddy coach, cant have college kid coach (all they do is wear flip flops), cant have a HS coach........So WHO coaches???? The truth is chances are most of the girls playing summer travel are not good enough to play under the old travel model which only had a few highly selective teams. Now with more teams more girls get opportunity to play. I'm curious to see some of the solutions to who can/should coach.....but I'm sure will receive more stupid comments than solutions

Maybe you feel that way with coaching in the past. However, a family should have the choice to play on any travel team not just the one associated with their town including Manhasset with Liberty and YJ with Northport. A coach cannot be objective with that type of conflict - do they choose the starter based on skill or the one that is paying them fees to be on their club? or the one that pays them money to give them privates? Their is an obvious conflict so remove it entirely. Will the coach be objective when a college coach asks about players? Perhaps but no one knows for certain. Certain teams are good and competitive but not all as you mention. Usually the top teams for most of these clubs are good and those top players get recruited to some top college lacrosse programs. I don't care who owns the club or coaches for the club but the school district cannot have that conflict - if you want to coach a HS club team or own it then you can't coach the HS team. There is an inherent conflict. School policy dictates a teacher cannot tutor their own students and the same policy should exist for the HS coaches and the players.

Hope you are this interested with the HS coaches that are involved in....soccer, basketball, softball, volleyball club teams etc. So your solution is coach decides between club/travel or HS to coach. A little extreme don't you think. This whole nonsense about HS coaches involved with club/travel typically involves a marginal player who feels they are not getting playing time etc.The truth is, If you are good you play. So again I ask.... what is your solution??? If no HS coaches can coach club.....who coaches travel/club. And I cant wait to hear the whiners when "daddy coaches" return to travel/club scene.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

My daughter plays for them. Not all GC. Great coaching with no connection to HS. GC needs to look at conflicts!

I totally agree with your point. While there are always exceptions to the rule, having the most qualified coaches coaching both at the high school level and the club provides the most benefit to the vast majority of serious players.

As to the DG issue, Manhasset won the state championship this year. How can one argue that club team players were favored over others when the team won 20 straight games and achieved the highest level possible at the high school level. The argument falls flat on its face when the team wins it all. The coaches obviously put the best players on the field to put them in the best position to win.

And if there were parents complaining to the AD about playing time after the team winning the state title, shame on them. What a great lesson they’re teaching their kids about being a member of a team...

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

To answer the question of who is the coach going to play, that’s easy, the girl who goes him or her the best chance to win, Allthe coaches mentioned before run very solid club programs, girls are coming them anyways, HS you don’t have that luxury and the coaches play to win, if you think otherwise than you prob have your mommy goggles on and the girl beating your daughter out is better. Blaming club affiliation is just an easy excuse for you. What is the excuse going to be when the same girl is still playing over your daughter with a new coach??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Ive been on both sides. The girls side also has conflicts. The bottom line on both is $$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

I’m in GC and just starting out. Thanks for the feedback. I also hear see GC Rams and GC Girs Lacrosse around town... are these also travel teams? How do these compare?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Oooff... my guess is that one of the players recorded DG when she was vehemently ripping into her or someone else...was probably bad if she got fired.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

I’m in GC and just starting out. Thanks for the feedback. I also hear see GC Rams and GC Girs Lacrosse around town... are these also travel teams? How do these compare?

Rams is ok to start out as long as you are aware that they have parent coaches. Rams is seasonal and cheaper. You could do both. when you age into rams travel it's very political. Medusa is private, no parent coaches!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

YJ is all that and more, the most toxic sidelines in any sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article
was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Thanks for that never ending post . If you think Liberty is some elite club who is turning players away you are clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Guy... this teenage girl is LITERALLY telling us she was mentally physiologically abused...LITERALLY. Don’t be blind. Don’t be like one of those trump fanboys. There are other girls in that thread that confirmed. There is a toxic side there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Guy... this teenage girl is LITERALLY telling us she was mentally physiologically abused...LITERALLY. Don’t be blind. Don’t be like one of those trump fanboys. There are other girls in that thread that confirmed. There is a toxic side there.

Go away snowflake and take your liberal (anti MAGA) ideas with you.

Can anyone confirm or deny the rumor that DG was at her sisters house in Manhassett while underage students were in attendance drinking alcohol? Not trying to spread a rumor, trying to get the facts prior to making my decision as to sign or not sign the petition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm or deny the rumor that DG was at her sisters house in Manhassett while underage students were in attendance drinking alcohol? Not trying to spread a rumor, trying to get the facts prior to making my decision as to sign or not sign the petition.

Deny, i was in attendance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm or deny the rumor that DG was at her sisters house in Manhassett while underage students were in attendance drinking alcohol? Not trying to spread a rumor, trying to get the facts prior to making my decision as to sign or not sign the petition.

I don't think her sister even lives in 'set

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Guy... this teenage girl is LITERALLY telling us she was mentally physiologically abused...LITERALLY. Don’t be blind. Don’t be like one of those trump fanboys. There are other girls in that thread that confirmed. There is a toxic side there.

Go away snowflake and take your liberal (anti MAGA) ideas with you.

You can’t rationalize with these type of people who think bullying/lying are the new way to be. Any thing you say that is decent or respectful is snowflake. Not sure when cruelty became so acceptable! Oh yeah ! November 2016!

Anyone have any info on teams/game times for committed academy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Guy... this teenage girl is LITERALLY telling us she was mentally physiologically abused...LITERALLY. Don’t be blind. Don’t be like one of those trump fanboys. There are other girls in that thread that confirmed. There is a toxic side there.

Go away snowflake and take your liberal (anti MAGA) ideas with you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Guy... this teenage girl is LITERALLY telling us she was mentally physiologically abused...LITERALLY. Don’t be blind. Don’t be like one of those trump fanboys. There are other girls in that thread that confirmed. There is a toxic side there.

Go away snowflake and take your liberal (anti MAGA) ideas with you.

As always with the the illiterate and uneducated..descent to ad hominem attack is a common refuge for the intellectually challenged. Enjoy the day in Mastic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Before you drive the hour understand that these coaches exist everywhere. Many years ago my daughter had a coach like this at YJ, more subtle but demeaning and hurtful just the same, that coach also coaches at a hs. Also had a coach in ms who called some kids stupid and dumb in front of the entire team and has been doing so for years. Teach your children to respect themselves and then remove themselves from this kind of situation. That could mean giving up your dream for them but In the end they will be happier and healthier!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm or deny the rumor that DG was at her sisters house in Manhassett while underage students were in attendance drinking alcohol? Not trying to spread a rumor, trying to get the facts prior to making my decision as to sign or not sign the petition.

I don't think her sister even lives in 'set

Her sister definitely lives in manhasset and DG has had her niece on the varsity team since being a freshman. Go look at the former posts for that one. I. Like imagine her sister had a party and kids were there. No idea if true but It seems there is some element of truth to that rumor. Everything she has done in the past likely contributed to her firing including pay to play with her club, treatmwnt of former players and general dismissive attitude. Plus this latest rumor. Hard to believe the AD and the BOE would fire a coach after the team wins states unless there was a reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone confirm or deny the rumor that DG was at her sisters house in Manhassett while underage students were in attendance drinking alcohol? Not trying to spread a rumor, trying to get the facts prior to making my decision as to sign or not sign the petition.

I don't think her sister even lives in 'set

Her sister definitely lives in manhasset and DG has had her niece on the varsity team since being a freshman. Go look at the former posts for that one. I. Like imagine her sister had a party and kids were there. No idea if true but It seems there is some element of truth to that rumor. Everything she has done in the past likely contributed to her firing including pay to play with her club, treatmwnt of former players and general dismissive attitude. Plus this latest rumor. Hard to believe the AD and the BOE would fire a coach after the team wins states unless there was a reason.

Do you mean the rumor you just started?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Could have changed, but last I knew Medusa was run by a couple GC graduates / former players, not current coaches.

We have a HS coach that is a YJ coach she has kids on her summer team that play for the HS team. As a parent of a kid who plays for another club, you cant tell me that the thousands and thousands of dollars that those kids have paid to her through the YJ's and privates doesn't effect decisions even if they are small ones. It's just a terrible conflict of interest for the school district. The coach should be above reproach and 2nd guessing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

GC Coach the smartest...doesn't coach outside the HS!

On the girls side, boys side is a entirely different story

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Could have changed, but last I knew Medusa was run by a couple GC graduates / former players, not current coaches.

My youngest plays with them. The coaches are a bit more seasoned than "just graduates". Princeton and BC grads. They've been really sweet and fundamentals based with my younger girls. Nothing but positive experience with Medusa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.facebook.com/1365540665/posts/3397801628234/

Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is.

Just make up your own facts why don't ya.Your guess is based on what? Your hate for someone you don't Know? I feel bad that this girl and her sister came away from DG with that feeling. I know that the Clair Q spoken about in the article was more of a problem ( and this includes her mother ). But in all honesty that is not the Danielle that I know. Besides this woman, and the afore mentioned CQ, I have never heard, or seen anything close to this description. My daughter, also a goalie, has been involved in games that I know DG wanted to win, and lost, sometimes by a lot, and never has she said anything even remotely like what was described. I'm not saying her view of the events is not what she believes, I just don't equate that to the DG that I know. Just the opposite. When a recruiting trip went bad for my daughter, it was DG that stood up for her, and after that trip, when my daughter had lost all hope, it was Danielle that kept her in the game. No coach goes without critics, no coach is loved by every past player. To the "parent" that posted "Geeez... After reading this. Will certainly be taking the 1 hour trip from Nassau for YJ.. what a [ChillLaxin] this DG lady is." I'm sure you already take that trip, and if you don't that good for DG that you will not be, if your that easily swayed by the postings of a single disgruntled ex player and 2 or 3 supporting posts, and not swayed by the dozen or so affirmative posts on this very thread, than goo riddance, Liberty is better off without you, and don't worry I'm sure YJ has a spot for you, as long as your check is goo YJ has a spot for everyone

Guy... this teenage girl is LITERALLY telling us she was mentally physiologically abused...LITERALLY. Don’t be blind. Don’t be like one of those trump fanboys. There are other girls in that thread that confirmed. There is a toxic side there.

Go away snowflake and take your liberal (anti MAGA) ideas with you.

You can’t rationalize with these type of people who think bullying/lying are the new way to be. Any thing you say that is decent or respectful is snowflake. Not sure when cruelty became so acceptable! Oh yeah ! November 2016!

It started when equal opportunity for all became equal outcome for all, which deep down everyone knows is not possible, if you believe otherwise you're too far gone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Could have changed, but last I knew Medusa was run by a couple GC graduates / former players, not current coaches.

My youngest plays with them. The coaches are a bit more seasoned than "just graduates". Princeton and BC grads. They've been really sweet and fundamentals based with my younger girls. Nothing but positive experience with Medusa.

Relax Mom, nobody said they are "just" graduates. I was trying to point out that - to my knowledge - there is not the same potential conflict of interest that people are talking about with other schools. Don't be so defensive.

Under Armour was a great tournament. The most competitive tournament out there. Talent level is by far the highest of any tournament we have been to.

If your daughter is of age I highly recommend trying out for one of the teams next year.

The best of the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The real question is should a varsity HS coach be allowed to take money via their club team from their prospective players and expect all families to keep their noses clean by only choosing their organization? Is there punishment if they choose a different club? Isn’t it just time to end this charade and find coaches to lead young lacrosse players minus the resentment and anger and expectations? Why does the BOE in Manhasset allow parent coaches, coaches related to players and owners of travel teams to coach at the varsity level? Time for change.

Does that include Carol Rose, Becky Thorn, and Al Bertalone

Medusa is all GC girls travel team

Could have changed, but last I knew Medusa was run by a couple GC graduates / former players, not current coaches.

My youngest plays with them. The coaches are a bit more seasoned than "just graduates". Princeton and BC grads. They've been really sweet and fundamentals based with my younger girls. Nothing but positive experience with Medusa.

Relax Mom, nobody said they are "just" graduates. I was trying to point out that - to my knowledge - there is not the same potential conflict of interest that people are talking about with other schools. Don't be so defensive.

LOL... agreed... apologies

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour was a great tournament. The most competitive tournament out there. Talent level is by far the highest of any tournament we have been to.

If your daughter is of age I highly recommend trying out for one of the teams next year.

The best of the best.

Impressive that Long Island ran the table and won the Highlight Division for the second straight year. Agree that talent level, especially on Top 4 Teams, was very strong. The selection process is never perfect but the end result does validate some of the selections, especially when playing time was fairly even for most players.

I finally got to see what so much of the talk on this site has been about at UA. CR lives up to her reputation , knows how to win but not exactly a role model I would want my daughter around very often. Language and behavior is ridiculous and her attempt at rehabbing her star players image was a total failure , and from what I could see both that coaches reputation and that players are well deserved. On a positive note I would rather my kid play for her than any of the three stooges who coached the younger group.

Those same three stooges went undefeated last year and won the Command Division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I finally got to see what so much of the talk on this site has been about at UA. CR lives up to her reputation , knows how to win but not exactly a role model I would want my daughter around very often. Language and behavior is ridiculous and her attempt at rehabbing her star players image was a total failure , and from what I could see both that coaches reputation and that players are well deserved. On a positive note I would rather my kid play for her than any of the three stooges who coached the younger group.

Besides Gick who else coached the command team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I finally got to see what so much of the talk on this site has been about at UA. CR lives up to her reputation , knows how to win but not exactly a role model I would want my daughter around very often. Language and behavior is ridiculous and her attempt at rehabbing her star players image was a total failure , and from what I could see both that coaches reputation and that players are well deserved. On a positive note I would rather my kid play for her than any of the three stooges who coached the younger group.

Besides Gick who else coached the command team?

What player was she trying to rehab

Maybe if they spread the talent out a little more on UA Command with less concentration of YJ, odds would have been better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I finally got to see what so much of the talk on this site has been about at UA. CR lives up to her reputation , knows how to win but not exactly a role model I would want my daughter around very often. Language and behavior is ridiculous and her attempt at rehabbing her star players image was a total failure , and from what I could see both that coaches reputation and that players are well deserved. On a positive note I would rather my kid play for her than any of the three stooges who coached the younger group.

Besides Gick who else coached the command team?

What player was she trying to rehab

The girl claimed to be the best 2020 in the country by people on this site for the last few years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I finally got to see what so much of the talk on this site has been about at UA. CR lives up to her reputation , knows how to win but not exactly a role model I would want my daughter around very often. Language and behavior is ridiculous and her attempt at rehabbing her star players image was a total failure , and from what I could see both that coaches reputation and that players are well deserved. On a positive note I would rather my kid play for her than any of the three stooges who coached the younger group.

Besides Gick who else coached the command team?

What player was she trying to rehab

The girl claimed to be the best 2020 in the country by people on this site for the last few years.

You mean the 18 year old 10th grader?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I finally got to see what so much of the talk on this site has been about at UA. CR lives up to her reputation , knows how to win but not exactly a role model I would want my daughter around very often. Language and behavior is ridiculous and her attempt at rehabbing her star players image was a total failure , and from what I could see both that coaches reputation and that players are well deserved. On a positive note I would rather my kid play for her than any of the three stooges who coached the younger group.

Besides Gick who else coached the command team?

What player was she trying to rehab

The girl claimed to be the best 2020 in the country by people on this site for the last few years.

Sorry have not seen that said , ever .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I finally got to see what so much of the talk on this site has been about at UA. CR lives up to her reputation , knows how to win but not exactly a role model I would want my daughter around very often. Language and behavior is ridiculous and her attempt at rehabbing her star players image was a total failure , and from what I could see both that coaches reputation and that players are well deserved. On a positive note I would rather my kid play for her than any of the three stooges who coached the younger group.

Besides Gick who else coached the command team?

What player was she trying to rehab

The girl claimed to be the best 2020 in the country by people on this site for the last few years.

You mean the 18 year old 10th grader?

Let me guess? She’s waaaay better than your daughter so she must be 18! Grow up.

First off the player that they are talking about is actually on age unlike the other two "best players in the age" one from LI the other from down south. That said we got to play the LI team , they were very good but was obvious the coach was forcing the ball to one player who lost the ball more than she did anything good with it. My understanding is this player has not played much the past few years mostly because she is out of control off the field( those stories must be greatly exaggerated at this point because if they were true I cannot imagine any school would keep their commitment ) so her club coach is trying to "rehab" her image to the college coaches to which she committed.

The girl is a still a very good player and has the potential to be exceptionally good.

If we hear correct, she is enrolled at yet another Long Island HS?
She is in very serious danger of throwing it all away. There is no college coach in America who will tolerate her seemingly off-the-rails behavior, especially one as much of a powerhouse as the one she is committed to.
Sad really.

If your daughter has the opportunity to participate in the Epoch Committed Academy next year I would highly recommend it.
Great event, good competition and nice experience.

Congrats to the CSH girl that got National High School Player of the Year. A true team player. Shocked that was recognized and the winner was not picked purely on racking up stats vs weak teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the CSH girl that got National High School Player of the Year. A true team player. Shocked that was recognized and the winner was not picked purely on racking up stats vs weak teams.

Yawn

Yes - definitely!
It’s a pleasure to watch a team player!
One team player will make the entire team play a different style.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the CSH girl that got National High School Player of the Year. A true team player. Shocked that was recognized and the winner was not picked purely on racking up stats vs weak teams.

Yawn

What’s wrong your princess is better just no one seems to se it .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the CSH girl that got National High School Player of the Year. A true team player. Shocked that was recognized and the winner was not picked purely on racking up stats vs weak teams.

Yawn

Go slither back under your rock. Congratulations! I'm am sure the young women is very deserving. Best of luck at US U19 National Team Tryouts and at Brown.

To the snake in the grass #^%? Off!

NJ may have a rule about club directors but it certainly doesnt stop HS coaches from coaching club teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the CSH girl that got National High School Player of the Year. A true team player. Shocked that was recognized and the winner was not picked purely on racking up stats vs weak teams.

Yawn

Go slither back under your rock. Congratulations! I'm am sure the young women is very deserving. Best of luck at US U19 National Team Tryouts and at Brown.

To the snake in the grass #^%? Off!

BTW, the Number one recruit in the country headed to UNC does not score a lot of goals. She is a fast athletic midfielder who does well on draw controls, ground balls and on defense. Your yawn comment demonstrates all that is wrong with this sport. As far as I can tell , the CHS player was not over hyped and although she put up strong numbers they were not crazy and they were not vs weak teams. I am happy for the young woman and her family. Congratulations ! #dontbebitter!

Hey i have an off-topic question -
Seventh grade daughter has been getting a few emails from local private school coaches after a few camps this summer. Is this common or do lots of girls get these emails?
How do privates go about building up their programs?
Is there really anything in it for us?
Local HS isn't that bad and don't want to get stuck somewhere...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey i have an off-topic question -
Seventh grade daughter has been getting a few emails from local private school coaches after a few camps this summer. Is this common or do lots of girls get these emails?
How do privates go about building up their programs?
Is there really anything in it for us?
Local HS isn't that bad and don't want to get stuck somewhere...

of course its not common.. otherwise you would see it all over these boars.. congrats though. Sacred heart and St. A's really the only game on the island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Northport and West Islip will battle it out for the county championship. Both return a lot of talent and both have strong coaching. Talent goes to NP but still a toss up.

Smithtown East and Smithtown West will be competitive but neither has enough depth, talent or coaching to win.

Ward Melville and Riverhead have no shot. Ward Melville has some talent but coaching is terrible. Riverhead is too young, not enough depth and coaching is eh.

Anyone want to take a shot at next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for Sayville to be a powerhouse for the next 5 years. They have a solid group of 6 8th graders that are moving up to varsity and will contribute right away. Most will be starters.

Is this a joke . They will be middle of the road at best this year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DIV 1
WARDMELVILLE
NORTHPORT
WEST ISLIP
SMITHEAT
SMITHWEST
RIVERHEAD

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
WHO HAS NO CHANCE TALK TO ME

Northport and West Islip will battle it out for the county championship. Both return a lot of talent and both have strong coaching. Talent goes to NP but still a toss up.

Smithtown East and Smithtown West will be competitive but neither has enough depth, talent or coaching to win.

Ward Melville and Riverhead have no shot. Ward Melville has some talent but coaching is terrible. Riverhead is too young, not enough depth and coaching is eh.

Anyone want to take a shot at next year?

Well whoever wrote this had the final right!

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

I am surprised that there were not more Northwestern players selected. The talent pool was very deep and many of the players headed to NU are very strong. The Northwestern coaching staff recruited their recruits over many of the players at the tryouts (they obviously like them better as players). Undoubtedly, there were players who were heavily recruited by NU who chose to go elsewhere but still made the squad.

Coach Amonte was quoted as saying “I’m really excited for the group that got selected. They really were dynamic. They were coachable. We were looking for players that could really work together and I think they distinguished themselves with those characteristics. We’re really pleased to be able to invite them to be a part of this special experience.” The takeaway is: the coaching staff went in with the goal of selecting "dynamic athletes" who were "coachable team players" who were able to demonstrate that they could "follow instructions" and "work together as a team". If there are several players of similar ability being considered I would expect the coach to choose the NU player.

Good luck to all of the players that were selected. Go USA!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

Why would that surprise you???

The goalie selections interesting 🤔

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

Why would that surprise you???

Interesting only 2 M&D girls. Long Island is well represented! Congrats!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

Why would that surprise you???

Interesting only 2 M&D girls. Long Island is well represented! Congrats!

What is wrong with you? Go stir another pot and after that move off the Island . You are an embarrassment .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

Why would that surprise you???

Interesting only 2 M&D girls. Long Island is well represented! Congrats!

What is wrong with you? Go stir another pot and after that move off the Island . You are an embarrassment .

Why are you so angry. Oh you must be from MD! Interesting that when the girls play by age the MD girls disappear. Dominance from MD is more about smoke and mirrors that talent.

7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

Why would that surprise you???

Interesting only 2 M&D girls. Long Island is well represented! Congrats!

What is wrong with you? Go stir another pot and after that move off the Island . You are an embarrassment .

Why are you so angry. Oh you must be from MD! Interesting that when the girls play by age the MD girls disappear. Dominance from MD is more about smoke and mirrors that talent.

Not angry at all and I am from the Island. Just think that it is ridiculous to make this a LI vs MD thing.

Congrats to all the players! USA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

Did your daughter make the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie selections interesting 🤔

Why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

Why would that surprise you???

Interesting only 2 M&D girls. Long Island is well represented! Congrats!

What is wrong with you? Go stir another pot and after that move off the Island . You are an embarrassment .

Why are you so angry. Oh you must be from MD! Interesting that when the girls play by age the MD girls disappear. Dominance from MD is more about smoke and mirrors that talent.

Not angry at all and I am from the Island. Just think that it is ridiculous to make this a LI vs MD thing.

Congrats to all the players! USA

Especially your daughter....is she committed to NU?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

This type of nonsense happens on all the U19 teams. It is a bunch of politics, and many of the more deserving players will be cut in favor of coaches recruits. Same happened on the boys U19. The problem lies in US Lacrosse. They cannot have coaches selecting their own players. Ridiculous and unfair!

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

This type of nonsense happens on all the U19 teams. It is a bunch of politics, and many of the more deserving players will be cut in favor of coaches recruits. Same happened on the boys U19. The problem lies in US Lacrosse. They cannot have coaches selecting their own players. Ridiculous and unfair!

Here's another one for you....girls taking private lessons for weeks over the summer with evaluator.... Talk about politics. Lax has always been like this. Either you get connected or don't let it bother you. It will never change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

This type of nonsense happens on all the U19 teams. It is a bunch of politics, and many of the more deserving players will be cut in favor of coaches recruits. Same happened on the boys U19. The problem lies in US Lacrosse. They cannot have coaches selecting their own players. Ridiculous and unfair!

Here's another one for you....girls taking private lessons for weeks over the summer with evaluator.... Talk about politics. Lax has always been like this. Either you get connected or don't let it bother you. It will never change.

WOW! Shame on US Lacrosse. Always has been a useless organization. “National” teams and tournaments are both a joke!

It’s funny the notIntelligent comments people make when their kid doesn’t make a team !

Everything is a learning experience. Don’t teach your kid to whine and complain. It will only hurt them in the future!!

Good luck to all the players that made team !
Bring home the gold !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

This type of nonsense happens on all the U19 teams. It is a bunch of politics, and many of the more deserving players will be cut in favor of coaches recruits. Same happened on the boys U19. The problem lies in US Lacrosse. They cannot have coaches selecting their own players. Ridiculous and unfair!

Here's another one for you....girls taking private lessons for weeks over the summer with evaluator.... Talk about politics. Lax has always been like this. Either you get connected or don't let it bother you. It will never change.

WOW! Shame on US Lacrosse. Always has been a useless organization. “National” teams and tournaments are both a joke!

Here we go again, the jealousy bitterness and hate all over again. For years I have been listening to the same old bs from delusional parents who whine and complain about this sport. Most of the time the complaints come from parents who know very little about lacrosse or competitive athletics in general. The thing that amazes me most is how their lack of knowledge and understanding never stops them from spewing their nonsense.

109 young women were invited to the tryouts (I am sure they are all very good players) 36 were selected for the team I am also sure that those players are also very good players.

There are three 2017 players I am sure having played a year of college lacrosse gave them an advantage.

There are 17 players from the class of 2018. Eight of those players were ranked Top 40 by Inside lacrosse, were 2018 UA Senior All-Americans and now earned a spot on the US National Team. The College coaches at Duke, USC, Loyola, Princeton, Northwestern and North Carolina also think that these players are pretty darn good as well. But no, you know better it is all political and the selections are real head scratchers.

In addition to those eight players two of the other 18's were also ranked in the Top 40 by IL and they are excellent. Two others were on the IL watch list, (one of which was named 2018 UA Senior All-American and according to the announcers during the game had an incredible performance) and now they earned a spot on the US Team. Pretty good as well.

13 of the 17 players from the class of 2018 would be considered "Consensus All-Americans" but no, the know it all parents on this site know better than the people who evaluate talent for a living.

There were nine 2019's selected. Six of the nine played at UA and were also ranked by Inside Lacrosse and now made The US Team. One of the nine played at UA and another was ranked by IL. There was one player out of nine who did not play at UA and was not ranked by IL. The 2019's are headed to Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn State, Northwestern, North Carolina, Maryland, Richmond and UMass. I will take the consensus of IL, UA, USLacrosse and their future college coaches over the know nothing bitter hateful parents on this site. Six of nine IL, UA, USA.... but they aren't very good it was all based on politics.

It looks like four of six the 2020's would be considered consensus picks as they were ranked by IL, played at UA and now earned a spot on the US U19 National Team. The 20's are headed to Syracuse, UVA, Stanford, BC and one uncommitted. Pretty good.

I will take the opinions of IL, UA, the college coaches who recruited these players, the evaluators at the tryouts and most of all The Head Coach of the US U19 Women's National Team who by the way has a pretty impressive resume. The rest of you can go scratch your butt and continue to whine and complain.

USA!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

This type of nonsense happens on all the U19 teams. It is a bunch of politics, and many of the more deserving players will be cut in favor of coaches recruits. Same happened on the boys U19. The problem lies in US Lacrosse. They cannot have coaches selecting their own players. Ridiculous and unfair!

Here's another one for you....girls taking private lessons for weeks over the summer with evaluator.... Talk about politics. Lax has always been like this. Either you get connected or don't let it bother you. It will never change.

WOW! Shame on US Lacrosse. Always has been a useless organization. “National” teams and tournaments are both a joke!

Here we go again, the jealousy bitterness and hate all over again. For years I have been listening to the same old bs from delusional parents who whine and complain about this sport. Most of the time the complaints come from parents who know very little about lacrosse or competitive athletics in general. The thing that amazes me most is how their lack of knowledge and understanding never stops them from spewing their nonsense.

109 young women were invited to the tryouts (I am sure they are all very good players) 36 were selected for the team I am also sure that those players are also very good players.

There are three 2017 players I am sure having played a year of college lacrosse gave them an advantage.

There are 17 players from the class of 2018. Eight of those players were ranked Top 40 by Inside lacrosse, were 2018 UA Senior All-Americans and now earned a spot on the US National Team. The College coaches at Duke, USC, Loyola, Princeton, Northwestern and North Carolina also think that these players are pretty darn good as well. But no, you know better it is all political and the selections are real head scratchers.

In addition to those eight players two of the other 18's were also ranked in the Top 40 by IL and they are excellent. Two others were on the IL watch list, (one of which was named 2018 UA Senior All-American and according to the announcers during the game had an incredible performance) and now they earned a spot on the US Team. Pretty good as well.

13 of the 17 players from the class of 2018 would be considered "Consensus All-Americans" but no, the know it all parents on this site know better than the people who evaluate talent for a living.

There were nine 2019's selected. Six of the nine played at UA and were also ranked by Inside Lacrosse and now made The US Team. One of the nine played at UA and another was ranked by IL. There was one player out of nine who did not play at UA and was not ranked by IL. The 2019's are headed to Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn State, Northwestern, North Carolina, Maryland, Richmond and UMass. I will take the consensus of IL, UA, USLacrosse and their future college coaches over the know nothing bitter hateful parents on this site. Six of nine IL, UA, USA.... but they aren't very good it was all based on politics.

It looks like four of six the 2020's would be considered consensus picks as they were ranked by IL, played at UA and now earned a spot on the US U19 National Team. The 20's are headed to Syracuse, UVA, Stanford, BC and one uncommitted. Pretty good.

I will take the opinions of IL, UA, the college coaches who recruited these players, the evaluators at the tryouts and most of all The Head Coach of the US U19 Women's National Team who by the way has a pretty impressive resume. The rest of you can go scratch your butt and continue to whine and complain.

USA!
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Wow...you have a lot of time in between making your phone calls and paying for private lessons.

Bottom line is that US Lacrosse allows for conflict of interest. Not saying they are not all good players. US Lacrosse is an unprofessional organization that does nothing for the sport. Never has

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 NU kids little much. M$D Duke recruit is overrated and the 2020 picks are a head scratchers, also why is Shannon Smith there observing

This type of nonsense happens on all the U19 teams. It is a bunch of politics, and many of the more deserving players will be cut in favor of coaches recruits. Same happened on the boys U19. The problem lies in US Lacrosse. They cannot have coaches selecting their own players. Ridiculous and unfair!

Here's another one for you....girls taking private lessons for weeks over the summer with evaluator.... Talk about politics. Lax has always been like this. Either you get connected or don't let it bother you. It will never change.

WOW! Shame on US Lacrosse. Always has been a useless organization. “National” teams and tournaments are both a joke!

Here we go again, the jealousy bitterness and hate all over again. For years I have been listening to the same old bs from delusional parents who whine and complain about this sport. Most of the time the complaints come from parents who know very little about lacrosse or competitive athletics in general. The thing that amazes me most is how their lack of knowledge and understanding never stops them from spewing their nonsense.

109 young women were invited to the tryouts (I am sure they are all very good players) 36 were selected for the team I am also sure that those players are also very good players.

There are three 2017 players I am sure having played a year of college lacrosse gave them an advantage.

There are 17 players from the class of 2018. Eight of those players were ranked Top 40 by Inside lacrosse, were 2018 UA Senior All-Americans and now earned a spot on the US National Team. The College coaches at Duke, USC, Loyola, Princeton, Northwestern and North Carolina also think that these players are pretty darn good as well. But no, you know better it is all political and the selections are real head scratchers.

In addition to those eight players two of the other 18's were also ranked in the Top 40 by IL and they are excellent. Two others were on the IL watch list, (one of which was named 2018 UA Senior All-American and according to the announcers during the game had an incredible performance) and now they earned a spot on the US Team. Pretty good as well.

13 of the 17 players from the class of 2018 would be considered "Consensus All-Americans" but no, the know it all parents on this site know better than the people who evaluate talent for a living.

There were nine 2019's selected. Six of the nine played at UA and were also ranked by Inside Lacrosse and now made The US Team. One of the nine played at UA and another was ranked by IL. There was one player out of nine who did not play at UA and was not ranked by IL. The 2019's are headed to Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn State, Northwestern, North Carolina, Maryland, Richmond and UMass. I will take the consensus of IL, UA, USLacrosse and their future college coaches over the know nothing bitter hateful parents on this site. Six of nine IL, UA, USA.... but they aren't very good it was all based on politics.

It looks like four of six the 2020's would be considered consensus picks as they were ranked by IL, played at UA and now earned a spot on the US U19 National Team. The 20's are headed to Syracuse, UVA, Stanford, BC and one uncommitted. Pretty good.

I will take the opinions of IL, UA, the college coaches who recruited these players, the evaluators at the tryouts and most of all The Head Coach of the US U19 Women's National Team who by the way has a pretty impressive resume. The rest of you can go scratch your butt and continue to whine and complain.

USA!

Also one of the 2018's helped her team win a New York State Championship and was named High School Player of The Year. I'm sure she was only selected due to politics. Congratulations to all of the young women what an accomplishment ! Be proud! Go USA!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

I am surprised that there were not more Northwestern players selected. The talent pool was very deep and many of the players headed to NU are very strong. The Northwestern coaching staff recruited their recruits over many of the players at the tryouts (they obviously like them better as players). Undoubtedly, there were players who were heavily recruited by NU who chose to go elsewhere but still made the squad.

Coach Amonte was quoted as saying “I’m really excited for the group that got selected. They really were dynamic. They were coachable. We were looking for players that could really work together and I think they distinguished themselves with those characteristics. We’re really pleased to be able to invite them to be a part of this special experience.” The takeaway is: the coaching staff went in with the goal of selecting "dynamic athletes" who were "coachable team players" who were able to demonstrate that they could "follow instructions" and "work together as a team". If there are several players of similar ability being considered I would expect the coach to choose the NU player.

Good luck to all of the players that were selected. Go USA!

Congrats to all the girls. And yes sad to see 9 NOrthwestern girls there, screams everything that is wrong with the political BS of this thing. Listen, they are an OK top 20 team, and that’s it. If you applied law of averages and all top 20 teams landed 9 of their players on the team, their would be 180 deserving kids to make the cut. Sorry but no team deserves 9 kids representing, certainly not NU, very sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

I am surprised that there were not more Northwestern players selected. The talent pool was very deep and many of the players headed to NU are very strong. The Northwestern coaching staff recruited their recruits over many of the players at the tryouts (they obviously like them better as players). Undoubtedly, there were players who were heavily recruited by NU who chose to go elsewhere but still made the squad.

Coach Amonte was quoted as saying “I’m really excited for the group that got selected. They really were dynamic. They were coachable. We were looking for players that could really work together and I think they distinguished themselves with those characteristics. We’re really pleased to be able to invite them to be a part of this special experience.” The takeaway is: the coaching staff went in with the goal of selecting "dynamic athletes" who were "coachable team players" who were able to demonstrate that they could "follow instructions" and "work together as a team". If there are several players of similar ability being considered I would expect the coach to choose the NU player.

Good luck to all of the players that were selected. Go USA!

Congrats to all the girls. And yes sad to see 9 NOrthwestern girls there, screams everything that is wrong with the political BS of this thing. Listen, they are an OK top 20 team, and that’s it. If you applied law of averages and all top 20 teams landed 9 of their players on the team, their would be 180 deserving kids to make the cut. Sorry but no team deserves 9 kids representing, certainly not NU, very sad!

I count seven Northwestern and I think that is fine. Please stop with an "OK top 20 team". NU is one of the best programs in the country (top 5 - 10). Coach Amonte has every right to select the players that she believes will help win the championship. Obviously she believes in the players headed to Northwestern, she recruited them. If she did not offer your daughter a spot at Northwestern why would you think she would offer her a spot on The US National Team? It is funny reading the comments and listening to the parents talk about how this is political and how they know who the more deserving players are. The women has won Seven National Championships and you stunands think that you know better. Most of you have no idea of what you are watching when you watch a game or a tryout.

On this site for many years and most of the parent think that scoring goals is the end all be all. I have read from time to time some posts that indicate more important factors and those posters are always shot down by the "go to goal" parents who carry on about "put the ball in the back of thee cage".

Coach Amonte put it out there, they were looking for players who demonstrated

- Players with passion who would bring a positive vibe to the team (selfish me first need not apply).
- Players who will go hard for a long period of time in whatever position they are put in. In other words players who hustle in all aspects of the game not just when going to goal (selfish lazy players need not apply).
- Team Players.
- Coachable Players.
- Versatile athletes who can play multiple positions (and are willing to do so ).
- High lacrosse IQ Players.
- Players who Communicate.
- Athletic Players with good footwork and body positioning.
- Players with good off ball skill on both sides of the ball (something that will be lost on many of you).
- Players with good vision (head up players who will make the right play not just go to goal or try to run it up).
- Players with good speed.

After talking with several people with insight... the tryouts were designed to identify the type of players that the coaches wanted (obviously the coach already knows the players she made offers to).
The players were constantly being told "given cue's" by the coaches as to what they wanted to see (work the two man, press out, double, push it, settle etc..) if the players ignored the cue and did their own thing... well , that didn't help.

They ran a 5 v 5 session that was all about seeing who was in shape and who would give an effort even when they were spent. Who was hustling and grinding and fighting when they were already exhausted. Getting back on defense, communicating and sliding even when they could barely run anymore was rewarded. Apparently they were watching to see who busted their butt. Goal hangers, lazy players and players who came in out of shape were not rewarded. It was a test.

Individual drills / station sessions also played a role in evaluating. Following instruction was important (is the player coachable?).

Scrimmages were also played but the teams were divided up based on the other sessions. Scrimmages are tough sometimes but on the final day players were given an opportunity for players to play their way back into the mix.

Not a perfect system but I trust in those selecting the team.

The Head Coach should have the ultimate say and I would expect her to select many of the players are going to NU or that she made offers to (she obviously thinks they are pretty good).

Go USA!!!! Congrats to the players.

YES - I agree 100%
I’m sure all the negative comments came from disgruntled parents.
They had a plan and their mission is to form a team not a group of individual players.
Team players win !
Go USA !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

I am surprised that there were not more Northwestern players selected. The talent pool was very deep and many of the players headed to NU are very strong. The Northwestern coaching staff recruited their recruits over many of the players at the tryouts (they obviously like them better as players). Undoubtedly, there were players who were heavily recruited by NU who chose to go elsewhere but still made the squad.

Coach Amonte was quoted as saying “I’m really excited for the group that got selected. They really were dynamic. They were coachable. We were looking for players that could really work together and I think they distinguished themselves with those characteristics. We’re really pleased to be able to invite them to be a part of this special experience.” The takeaway is: the coaching staff went in with the goal of selecting "dynamic athletes" who were "coachable team players" who were able to demonstrate that they could "follow instructions" and "work together as a team". If there are several players of similar ability being considered I would expect the coach to choose the NU player.

Good luck to all of the players that were selected. Go USA!

Congrats to all the girls. And yes sad to see 9 NOrthwestern girls there, screams everything that is wrong with the political BS of this thing. Listen, they are an OK top 20 team, and that’s it. If you applied law of averages and all top 20 teams landed 9 of their players on the team, their would be 180 deserving kids to make the cut. Sorry but no team deserves 9 kids representing, certainly not NU, very sad!

I count seven Northwestern and I think that is fine. Please stop with an "OK top 20 team". NU is one of the best programs in the country (top 5 - 10). Coach Amonte has every right to select the players that she believes will help win the championship. Obviously she believes in the players headed to Northwestern, she recruited them. If she did not offer your daughter a spot at Northwestern why would you think she would offer her a spot on The US National Team? It is funny reading the comments and listening to the parents talk about how this is political and how they know who the more deserving players are. The women has won Seven National Championships and you stunands think that you know better. Most of you have no idea of what you are watching when you watch a game or a tryout.

On this site for many years and most of the parent think that scoring goals is the end all be all. I have read from time to time some posts that indicate more important factors and those posters are always shot down by the "go to goal" parents who carry on about "put the ball in the back of thee cage".

Coach Amonte put it out there, they were looking for players who demonstrated

- Players with passion who would bring a positive vibe to the team (selfish me first need not apply).
- Players who will go hard for a long period of time in whatever position they are put in. In other words players who hustle in all aspects of the game not just when going to goal (selfish lazy players need not apply).
- Team Players.
- Coachable Players.
- Versatile athletes who can play multiple positions (and are willing to do so ).
- High lacrosse IQ Players.
- Players who Communicate.
- Athletic Players with good footwork and body positioning.
- Players with good off ball skill on both sides of the ball (something that will be lost on many of you).
- Players with good vision (head up players who will make the right play not just go to goal or try to run it up).
- Players with good speed.

After talking with several people with insight... the tryouts were designed to identify the type of players that the coaches wanted (obviously the coach already knows the players she made offers to).
The players were constantly being told "given cue's" by the coaches as to what they wanted to see (work the two man, press out, double, push it, settle etc..) if the players ignored the cue and did their own thing... well , that didn't help.

They ran a 5 v 5 session that was all about seeing who was in shape and who would give an effort even when they were spent. Who was hustling and grinding and fighting when they were already exhausted. Getting back on defense, communicating and sliding even when they could barely run anymore was rewarded. Apparently they were watching to see who busted their butt. Goal hangers, lazy players and players who came in out of shape were not rewarded. It was a test.

Individual drills / station sessions also played a role in evaluating. Following instruction was important (is the player coachable?).

Scrimmages were also played but the teams were divided up based on the other sessions. Scrimmages are tough sometimes but on the final day players were given an opportunity for players to play their way back into the mix.

Not a perfect system but I trust in those selecting the team.

The Head Coach should have the ultimate say and I would expect her to select many of the players are going to NU or that she made offers to (she obviously thinks they are pretty good).

Go USA!!!! Congrats to the players.

The only thing that I would add is that there were only 36 spots available for the type of players the coaches were looking for. No doubt there were a number of players who met the criteria but no room on the roster. Agree that there are many parents who do not know very much.... It's always political with that type.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

I am surprised that there were not more Northwestern players selected. The talent pool was very deep and many of the players headed to NU are very strong. The Northwestern coaching staff recruited their recruits over many of the players at the tryouts (they obviously like them better as players). Undoubtedly, there were players who were heavily recruited by NU who chose to go elsewhere but still made the squad.

Coach Amonte was quoted as saying “I’m really excited for the group that got selected. They really were dynamic. They were coachable. We were looking for players that could really work together and I think they distinguished themselves with those characteristics. We’re really pleased to be able to invite them to be a part of this special experience.” The takeaway is: the coaching staff went in with the goal of selecting "dynamic athletes" who were "coachable team players" who were able to demonstrate that they could "follow instructions" and "work together as a team". If there are several players of similar ability being considered I would expect the coach to choose the NU player.

Good luck to all of the players that were selected. Go USA!

Congrats to all the girls. And yes sad to see 9 NOrthwestern girls there, screams everything that is wrong with the political BS of this thing. Listen, they are an OK top 20 team, and that’s it. If you applied law of averages and all top 20 teams landed 9 of their players on the team, their would be 180 deserving kids to make the cut. Sorry but no team deserves 9 kids representing, certainly not NU, very sad!

I count seven Northwestern and I think that is fine. Please stop with an "OK top 20 team". NU is one of the best programs in the country (top 5 - 10). Coach Amonte has every right to select the players that she believes will help win the championship. Obviously she believes in the players headed to Northwestern, she recruited them. If she did not offer your daughter a spot at Northwestern why would you think she would offer her a spot on The US National Team? It is funny reading the comments and listening to the parents talk about how this is political and how they know who the more deserving players are. The women has won Seven National Championships and you stunands think that you know better. Most of you have no idea of what you are watching when you watch a game or a tryout.

On this site for many years and most of the parent think that scoring goals is the end all be all. I have read from time to time some posts that indicate more important factors and those posters are always shot down by the "go to goal" parents who carry on about "put the ball in the back of thee cage".

Coach Amonte put it out there, they were looking for players who demonstrated

- Players with passion who would bring a positive vibe to the team (selfish me first need not apply).
- Players who will go hard for a long period of time in whatever position they are put in. In other words players who hustle in all aspects of the game not just when going to goal (selfish lazy players need not apply).
- Team Players.
- Coachable Players.
- Versatile athletes who can play multiple positions (and are willing to do so ).
- High lacrosse IQ Players.
- Players who Communicate.
- Athletic Players with good footwork and body positioning.
- Players with good off ball skill on both sides of the ball (something that will be lost on many of you).
- Players with good vision (head up players who will make the right play not just go to goal or try to run it up).
- Players with good speed.

After talking with several people with insight... the tryouts were designed to identify the type of players that the coaches wanted (obviously the coach already knows the players she made offers to).
The players were constantly being told "given cue's" by the coaches as to what they wanted to see (work the two man, press out, double, push it, settle etc..) if the players ignored the cue and did their own thing... well , that didn't help.

They ran a 5 v 5 session that was all about seeing who was in shape and who would give an effort even when they were spent. Who was hustling and grinding and fighting when they were already exhausted. Getting back on defense, communicating and sliding even when they could barely run anymore was rewarded. Apparently they were watching to see who busted their butt. Goal hangers, lazy players and players who came in out of shape were not rewarded. It was a test.

Individual drills / station sessions also played a role in evaluating. Following instruction was important (is the player coachable?).

Scrimmages were also played but the teams were divided up based on the other sessions. Scrimmages are tough sometimes but on the final day players were given an opportunity for players to play their way back into the mix.

Not a perfect system but I trust in those selecting the team.

The Head Coach should have the ultimate say and I would expect her to select many of the players are going to NU or that she made offers to (she obviously thinks they are pretty good).

Go USA!!!! Congrats to the players.

The only thing that I would add is that there were only 36 spots available for the type of players the coaches were looking for. No doubt there were a number of players who met the criteria but no room on the roster. Agree that there are many parents who do not know very much.... It's always political with that type.

You do all realize that there will be another cut down the road and the final roster will be more like 20 players...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U19 Team, first round of cuts - seems like a disproportionate number from NU:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/us-u...e-names-2019-us-womens-u19-training-team

I am surprised that there were not more Northwestern players selected. The talent pool was very deep and many of the players headed to NU are very strong. The Northwestern coaching staff recruited their recruits over many of the players at the tryouts (they obviously like them better as players). Undoubtedly, there were players who were heavily recruited by NU who chose to go elsewhere but still made the squad.

Coach Amonte was quoted as saying “I’m really excited for the group that got selected. They really were dynamic. They were coachable. We were looking for players that could really work together and I think they distinguished themselves with those characteristics. We’re really pleased to be able to invite them to be a part of this special experience.” The takeaway is: the coaching staff went in with the goal of selecting "dynamic athletes" who were "coachable team players" who were able to demonstrate that they could "follow instructions" and "work together as a team". If there are several players of similar ability being considered I would expect the coach to choose the NU player.

Good luck to all of the players that were selected. Go USA!

Congrats to all the girls. And yes sad to see 9 NOrthwestern girls there, screams everything that is wrong with the political BS of this thing. Listen, they are an OK top 20 team, and that’s it. If you applied law of averages and all top 20 teams landed 9 of their players on the team, their would be 180 deserving kids to make the cut. Sorry but no team deserves 9 kids representing, certainly not NU, very sad!

I count seven Northwestern and I think that is fine. Please stop with an "OK top 20 team". NU is one of the best programs in the country (top 5 - 10). Coach Amonte has every right to select the players that she believes will help win the championship. Obviously she believes in the players headed to Northwestern, she recruited them. If she did not offer your daughter a spot at Northwestern why would you think she would offer her a spot on The US National Team? It is funny reading the comments and listening to the parents talk about how this is political and how they know who the more deserving players are. The women has won Seven National Championships and you stunands think that you know better. Most of you have no idea of what you are watching when you watch a game or a tryout.

On this site for many years and most of the parent think that scoring goals is the end all be all. I have read from time to time some posts that indicate more important factors and those posters are always shot down by the "go to goal" parents who carry on about "put the ball in the back of thee cage".

Coach Amonte put it out there, they were looking for players who demonstrated

- Players with passion who would bring a positive vibe to the team (selfish me first need not apply).
- Players who will go hard for a long period of time in whatever position they are put in. In other words players who hustle in all aspects of the game not just when going to goal (selfish lazy players need not apply).
- Team Players.
- Coachable Players.
- Versatile athletes who can play multiple positions (and are willing to do so ).
- High lacrosse IQ Players.
- Players who Communicate.
- Athletic Players with good footwork and body positioning.
- Players with good off ball skill on both sides of the ball (something that will be lost on many of you).
- Players with good vision (head up players who will make the right play not just go to goal or try to run it up).
- Players with good speed.

After talking with several people with insight... the tryouts were designed to identify the type of players that the coaches wanted (obviously the coach already knows the players she made offers to).
The players were constantly being told "given cue's" by the coaches as to what they wanted to see (work the two man, press out, double, push it, settle etc..) if the players ignored the cue and did their own thing... well , that didn't help.

They ran a 5 v 5 session that was all about seeing who was in shape and who would give an effort even when they were spent. Who was hustling and grinding and fighting when they were already exhausted. Getting back on defense, communicating and sliding even when they could barely run anymore was rewarded. Apparently they were watching to see who busted their butt. Goal hangers, lazy players and players who came in out of shape were not rewarded. It was a test.

Individual drills / station sessions also played a role in evaluating. Following instruction was important (is the player coachable?).

Scrimmages were also played but the teams were divided up based on the other sessions. Scrimmages are tough sometimes but on the final day players were given an opportunity for players to play their way back into the mix.

Not a perfect system but I trust in those selecting the team.

The Head Coach should have the ultimate say and I would expect her to select many of the players are going to NU or that she made offers to (she obviously thinks they are pretty good).

Go USA!!!! Congrats to the players.

The only thing that I would add is that there were only 36 spots available for the type of players the coaches were looking for. No doubt there were a number of players who met the criteria but no room on the roster. Agree that there are many parents who do not know very much.... It's always political with that type.

You do all realize that there will be another cut down the road and the final roster will be more like 20 players...

Yes, well aware. Unlike many on this site I am not bitter or jealous and I am not making excuses or blaming politics. I will not be sitting around hoping and wishing that specific players do not make the travel roster.

Congratulations to all who made The Training Team!

Don't forget final decisions are based on ability to fundraise as well.

Honestly could not get thru the long winded retorts above . If you don’t think politics play a major factor you are clueless and yes there have been politics involved in the past teams as well. As far as picking non ball hog players , that is laughable as many of the players selected are the worst ball hog players out there , if you would like some examples that would be easy to supply . 7 players from one program is silly and gross and honestly NW has not been relevant for years .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't forget final decisions are based on ability to fundraise as well.

True

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly could not get thru the long winded retorts above . If you don’t think politics play a major factor you are clueless and yes there have been politics involved in the past teams as well. As far as picking non ball hog players , that is laughable as many of the players selected are the worst ball hog players out there , if you would like some examples that would be easy to supply . 7 players from one program is silly and gross and honestly NW has not been relevant for years .

Humor me...lets hear some examples.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly could not get thru the long winded retorts above . If you don’t think politics play a major factor you are clueless and yes there have been politics involved in the past teams as well. As far as picking non ball hog players , that is laughable as many of the players selected are the worst ball hog players out there , if you would like some examples that would be easy to supply . 7 players from one program is silly and gross and honestly NW has not been relevant for years .

Exactly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly could not get thru the long winded retorts above . If you don’t think politics play a major factor you are clueless and yes there have been politics involved in the past teams as well. As far as picking non ball hog players , that is laughable as many of the players selected are the worst ball hog players out there , if you would like some examples that would be easy to supply . 7 players from one program is silly and gross and honestly NW has not been relevant for years .

Exactly

Agree as well. If you look at every “teamusa” team picked in the past, on both the boys and girls sides, you will see that the teams are loaded with favors. This is unacceptable. US Lacrosse is a joke has never done a thing for the sport that was not self serving. They will never get a dime out of me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly could not get thru the long winded retorts above . If you don’t think politics play a major factor you are clueless and yes there have been politics involved in the past teams as well. As far as picking non ball hog players , that is laughable as many of the players selected are the worst ball hog players out there , if you would like some examples that would be easy to supply . 7 players from one program is silly and gross and honestly NW has not been relevant for years .

Exactly

Agree as well. If you look at every “teamusa” team picked in the past, on both the boys and girls sides, you will see that the teams are loaded with favors. This is unacceptable. US Lacrosse is a joke has never done a thing for the sport that was not self serving. They will never get a dime out of me.

Thanks for the positive input.

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

They know the training process, what exactly are you babbling about in this case. So when CR stacks an UA team with YJ players its ridiculous but when KA does its just smart. Its gross on both accounts .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

They know the training process, what exactly are you babbling about in this case. So when CR stacks an UA team with YJ players its ridiculous but when KA does its just smart. Its gross on both accounts .

Exactly CR has been doing it since the beginning of time. This is nothing new. Not right but not new. What about CR and her tournament circuit? Talk about gross...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

They know the training process, what exactly are you babbling about in this case. So when CR stacks an UA team with YJ players its ridiculous but when KA does its just smart. Its gross on both accounts .

How did we get to CR and YJ? Please do not mention CR and KA in the same sentence .

To think that Coach Amonte is not going to favor her recruits is foolish. Obviously she thinks very highly of the players that is why she recruited them.

Here is a question: if your daughter did not receive an offer from Northwestern do you really think that Coach Amonte is going to want your daughter on Team USA over players that she recruited and made offers to? It simply does not make sense. Many of you believe that your daughter is better than the players selected and that's okay, that's your opinion. Coach Amonte is entitled to her opinion as well.

Cry politics all you want , the reality is Coach Amonte is going to select the players that she believes will help the team win.

Here is another question : did all of the Northwestern recruits / players make the team?

I have read a lot of bitter complaints that stem from sour grapes but nothing of substance . I have read a couple of insightful retorts regarding the tryouts and they make sense to me.

As usual the jealous try to set the narrative with their claims of "it's all politics". At some point you are going to have to come to terms with the reality.

Looks like another 2nd place finish for the U-19 woman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

They know the training process, what exactly are you babbling about in this case. So when CR stacks an UA team with YJ players its ridiculous but when KA does its just smart. Its gross on both accounts .

How did we get to CR and YJ? Please do not mention CR and KA in the same sentence .

To think that Coach Amonte is not going to favor her recruits is foolish. Obviously she thinks very highly of the players that is why she recruited them.

Here is a question: if your daughter did not receive an offer from Northwestern do you really think that Coach Amonte is going to want your daughter on Team USA over players that she recruited and made offers to? It simply does not make sense. Many of you believe that your daughter is better than the players selected and that's okay, that's your opinion. Coach Amonte is entitled to her opinion as well.

Cry politics all you want , the reality is Coach Amonte is going to select the players that she believes will help the team win.

Here is another question : did all of the Northwestern recruits / players make the team?

I have read a lot of bitter complaints that stem from sour grapes but nothing of substance . I have read a couple of insightful retorts regarding the tryouts and they make sense to me.

As usual the jealous try to set the narrative with their claims of "it's all politics". At some point you are going to have to come to terms with the reality.

Here is the problem with your logic, you assume all the top players wanted to go to NU and Kelly already had her pick of who’s who. But rest assured that many many of the very top players have zero interest in playing for NU and for KAH. NU is lucky to get a small share of the top players, just like all the other top programs. And that’s how this US team should be put together, with a small share of the top kid or two from all the top programs. You think way too highly of the NU commits if you think the numbers are proportional to the talent pool. She should be embarrassed for herself, and US lacrosse should be embarrassed by what she has done. Maybe most all will get cut from final roster and we will see one or two make the team, that would be about right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like another 2nd place finish for the U-19 woman

At what point do you admit that you are a lost? When will you realize that trying to diminish others will not elevate your daughter ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

They know the training process, what exactly are you babbling about in this case. So when CR stacks an UA team with YJ players its ridiculous but when KA does its just smart. Its gross on both accounts .

How did we get to CR and YJ? Please do not mention CR and KA in the same sentence .

To think that Coach Amonte is not going to favor her recruits is foolish. Obviously she thinks very highly of the players that is why she recruited them.

Here is a question: if your daughter did not receive an offer from Northwestern do you really think that Coach Amonte is going to want your daughter on Team USA over players that she recruited and made offers to? It simply does not make sense. Many of you believe that your daughter is better than the players selected and that's okay, that's your opinion. Coach Amonte is entitled to her opinion as well.

Cry politics all you want , the reality is Coach Amonte is going to select the players that she believes will help the team win.

Here is another question : did all of the Northwestern recruits / players make the team?

I have read a lot of bitter complaints that stem from sour grapes but nothing of substance . I have read a couple of insightful retorts regarding the tryouts and they make sense to me.

As usual the jealous try to set the narrative with their claims of "it's all politics". At some point you are going to have to come to terms with the reality.

Here is the problem with your logic, you assume all the top players wanted to go to NU and Kelly already had her pick of who’s who. But rest assured that many many of the very top players have zero interest in playing for NU and for KAH. NU is lucky to get a small share of the top players, just like all the other top programs. And that’s how this US team should be put together, with a small share of the top kid or two from all the top programs. You think way too highly of the NU commits if you think the numbers are proportional to the talent pool. She should be embarrassed for herself, and US lacrosse should be embarrassed by what she has done. Maybe most all will get cut from final roster and we will see one or two make the team, that would be about right.

US Lacrosse could care less about picking these teams fairly. It’s really a shame for the kids who deserved to be on these teams but get cut due to favoritism. The most recent of example of this was Kylie Ohmiller being cut from the woman’s team. Are you kidding?? Also the last U19 boys team was a complete joke. The organization should just do away with these embarrassing teams and spend the money they rob from people on something actually worthwhile to the sport such as enforced age restrictions and free clinics. You do realize that huge amounts of money are wasted financing meals, flights, hotels, and entertainment for a joke of a tournament.

CR and KA are in the sentence because CR makes more cash than KA from the sport. Between her 700 kids, the 8 tournaments and countless other things, CR is in many ways more powerful than a true icon of the sport KA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

They know the training process, what exactly are you babbling about in this case. So when CR stacks an UA team with YJ players its ridiculous but when KA does its just smart. Its gross on both accounts

How did we get to CR and YJ? Please do not mention CR and KA in the same sentence .

To think that Coach Amonte is not going to favor her recruits is foolish. Obviously she thinks very highly of the players that is why she recruited them.

Here is a question: if your daughter did not receive an offer from Northwestern do you really think that Coach Amonte is going to want your daughter on Team USA over players that she recruited and made offers to? It simply does not make sense. Many of you believe that your daughter is better than the players selected and that's okay, that's your opinion. Coach Amonte is entitled to her opinion as well.

Cry politics all you want , the reality is Coach Amonte is going to select the players that she believes will help the team win.

Here is another question : did all of the Northwestern recruits / players make the team?

I have read a lot of bitter complaints that stem from sour grapes but nothing of substance . I have read a couple of insightful retorts regarding the tryouts and they make sense to me.

As usual the jealous try to set the narrative with their claims of "it's all politics". At some point you are going to have to come to terms with the reality.

Here is the problem with your logic, you assume all the top players wanted to go to NU and Kelly already had her pick of who’s who. But rest assured that many many of the very top players have zero interest in playing for NU and for KAH. NU is lucky to get a small share of the top players, just like all the other top programs. And that’s how this US team should be put together, with a small share of the top kid or two from all the top programs. You think way too highly of the NU commits if you think the numbers are proportional to the talent pool. She should be embarrassed for herself, and US lacrosse should be embarrassed by what she has done. Maybe most all will get cut from final roster and we will see one or two make the team, that would be about right.

You have good points and I agree to some degree. However, you assume that I think That all of the top players want to go to Northwestern. I do not think that at all. I am sure that some of the "top players" did not make the team. I am also sure that many of the "top players" did make the team.

There was an earlier post that pointed out a number of players on the roster that would be considered consensus picks or All-Americans. Is everyone wrong on the assessment of these players? Are these players so connected that they are rubber stamped for everything? C'mon man give it a rest already, stop whining. Stop trying to spin things to make your daughter look better than she is. The last coment was not directed at you, it is for the parents who who will be spinning tales about the tryouts and the players who were selected. I have already heard a few. Very sad listening to the folks and their delusions. Never going to be a perfect system but some on this site cry foul all of the time. Just maybe the players selected earned their spot and the coaches and evaluators know what they are doing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like another 2nd place finish for the U-19 woman

At what point do you admit that you are a lost? When will you realize that trying to diminish others will not elevate your daughter ?

Agree, complete lost. This type is always bitter and will never give credit where credit is due. They believe they know better than everyone and they believe that their daughter better than she is. The worst pat is that they go around speaking as if they are an authority on the sport. Some have been complaining about politics for years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches ussually pick a higher amount of their own kids because 1. they like the way they play. 2. they know the training process. Why are we debating this it goes back to the beginning of time.

They know the training process, what exactly are you babbling about in this case. So when CR stacks an UA team with YJ players its ridiculous but when KA does its just smart. Its gross on both accounts .

How did we get to CR and YJ? Please do not mention CR and KA in the same sentence .

To think that Coach Amonte is not going to favor her recruits is foolish. Obviously she thinks very highly of the players that is why she recruited them.

Here is a question: if your daughter did not receive an offer from Northwestern do you really think that Coach Amonte is going to want your daughter on Team USA over players that she recruited and made offers to? It simply does not make sense. Many of you believe that your daughter is better than the players selected and that's okay, that's your opinion. Coach Amonte is entitled to her opinion as well.

Cry politics all you want , the reality is Coach Amonte is going to select the players that she believes will help the team win.

Here is another question : did all of the Northwestern recruits / players make the team?

I have read a lot of bitter complaints that stem from sour grapes but nothing of substance . I have read a couple of insightful retorts regarding the tryouts and they make sense to me.

As usual the jealous try to set the narrative with their claims of "it's all politics". At some point you are going to have to come to terms with the reality.

Here is the problem with your logic, you assume all the top players wanted to go to NU and Kelly already had her pick of who’s who. But rest assured that many many of the very top players have zero interest in playing for NU and for KAH. NU is lucky to get a small share of the top players, just like all the other top programs. And that’s how this US team should be put together, with a small share of the top kid or two from all the top programs. You think way too highly of the NU commits if you think the numbers are proportional to the talent pool. She should be embarrassed for herself, and US lacrosse should be embarrassed by what she has done. Maybe most all will get cut from final roster and we will see one or two make the team, that would be about right.

US Lacrosse could care less about picking these teams fairly. It’s really a shame for the kids who deserved to be on these teams but get cut due to favoritism. The most recent of example of this was Kylie Ohmiller being cut from the woman’s team. Are you kidding?? Also the last U19 boys team was a complete joke. The organization should just do away with these embarrassing teams and spend the money they rob from people on something actually worthwhile to the sport such as enforced age restrictions and free clinics. You do realize that huge amounts of money are wasted financing meals, flights, hotels, and entertainment for a joke of a tournament.

The fact that you want things for free tells us all we need to know. It's not fair .... Waaaaah Waaaah Waaaah....

Congratulations to all that worked hard and earned a spot on the roster.

Go USA!

Please stop crying about enforced age restrictions. This is a HS page and every girl in America has to play against older girls all thru HS and college.If your girls can play they can play. Have them line up and compete and stop crying about what' s fair. Any true athlete at any level could give a crap that the athlete across from them is older, bigger, stronger, or whatever. They just want to beat the heck out of them. So please stop doing your daughters a diservice and stop whining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop crying about enforced age restrictions. This is a HS page and every girl in America has to play against older girls all thru HS and college.If your girls can play they can play. Have them line up and compete and stop crying about what' s fair. Any true athlete at any level could give a crap that the athlete across from them is older, bigger, stronger, or whatever. They just want to beat the heck out of them. So please stop doing your daughters a diservice and stop whining.

Not crying here, my daughter will be taking your older daughters starting position this year, then we’ll see who’s crying. The sport is still a mess and an embarrassment, sad that US Lacrosse looks the other way.

Stop whining? You would like that, wouldn't so you'd stop having to defend your holdback. Let HS be HS, fine with that, but during club and recruiting tournaments play with your own age. By college or senior in HS it is all leveled out, not before then and you KNOW IT. Not whining, legitimate gripe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop crying about enforced age restrictions. This is a HS page and every girl in America has to play against older girls all thru HS and college.If your girls can play they can play. Have them line up and compete and stop crying about what' s fair. Any true athlete at any level could give a crap that the athlete across from them is older, bigger, stronger, or whatever. They just want to beat the heck out of them. So please stop doing your daughters a diservice and stop whining.

Not crying here, my daughter will be taking your older daughters starting position this year, then we’ll see who’s crying. The sport is still a mess and an embarrassment, sad that US Lacrosse looks the other way.

You people are ridiculous. Every girl who made the team was deserving of a spot. Not everything is political, don't take that away from all the hard work these girls did.

Agreed...where as HS lax holds open possibility of freshman playing against seniors on same team/against each other, there is a reason why travel is broken up by graduation years--2019 or 2020 or 2021--if not, just make the teams any age group and let them play against each other. Why have them designated by graduation years if there are mixed ages on teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop whining? You would like that, wouldn't so you'd stop having to defend your holdback. Let HS be HS, fine with that, but during club and recruiting tournaments play with your own age. By college or senior in HS it is all leveled out, not before then and you KNOW IT. Not whining, legitimate gripe.

Ok , but this is a HS thread, so it's all leveled out. So people should stopping asking about it. Also my Girls one of whom plays in college and the other who is a committed HS senior are both late Birthdays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop whining? You would like that, wouldn't so you'd stop having to defend your holdback. Let HS be HS, fine with that, but during club and recruiting tournaments play with your own age. By college or senior in HS it is all leveled out, not before then and you KNOW IT. Not whining, legitimate gripe.

Ok , but this is a HS thread, so it's all leveled out. So people should stopping asking about it. Also my Girls one of whom plays in college and the other who is a committed HS senior are both late Birthdays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop crying about enforced age restrictions. This is a HS page and every girl in America has to play against older girls all thru HS and college.If your girls can play they can play. Have them line up and compete and stop crying about what' s fair. Any true athlete at any level could give a crap that the athlete across from them is older, bigger, stronger, or whatever. They just want to beat the heck out of them. So please stop doing your daughters a diservice and stop whining.

Not crying here, my daughter will be taking your older daughters starting position this year, then we’ll see who’s crying. The sport is still a mess and an embarrassment, sad that US Lacrosse looks the other way.

Only if she is going to college and if she is better, she would deserve to take her position.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed...where as HS lax holds open possibility of freshman playing against seniors on same team/against each other, there is a reason why travel is broken up by graduation years--2019 or 2020 or 2021--if not, just make the teams any age group and let them play against each other. Why have them designated by graduation years if there are mixed ages on teams?

Its the recruiting model that has worked for years and isn't that the reason for these clubs ? Its really not about winning some Mythical US lacrosse National Championship

What is wrong with you people? How do you make it through the day with you jaded views and opinions. I hope that you do not pass your negative attitudes along to your daughters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is wrong with you people? How do you make it through the day with you jaded views and opinions. I hope that you do not pass your negative attitudes along to your daughters.

Absolutely toxic. Talked to a few people before the U19 Tryouts. Very sad listing to the bitterness from some and the spin from others. One mom (daughter was not invited) went on about how even the 109 players was "all politics". Another person (father) of player that was invited tried to set the tone before the tryouts even began. Preemptively setting his narrative for when his daughter did not make the team. They all try to paint a picture of how the tryouts have nothing to due with talent. They want us to believe that it is all about connections and politics. What they really want us to believe is that their daughter deserves to be on the team but the tryout is a joke. This very same rhetoric has been on display for many years from many of the same people. There is always an excuse, politics always playes a role and nothing is fair. From select teams to recruiting there is always some nefarious reason as to why their daughter was not recruited, selected or whatever. Jealousy, bitterness and spinning tales is what the sour grapes produce.
Certain people will never get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like another 2nd place finish for the U-19 woman

At what point do you admit that you are a lost? When will you realize that trying to diminish others will not elevate your daughter ?

Let them whine all that they want... It looks like the coaches and evaluators took the selection process very serious. KAH wants to win.

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like another 2nd place finish for the U-19 woman

At what point do you admit that you are a lost? When will you realize that trying to diminish others will not elevate your daughter ?

Let them whine all that they want... It looks like the coaches and evaluators took the selection process very serious. KAH wants to win.

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

I wrote the second place post, and for the record, my daughter is a senior in college, did not make the U-19 team the last time, nor do I think she deserved to. She is very good , just not top 50. Now lets talk facts. Last time around, the same argument happened, as it will next time around. the truth is simple, KAH is totally biased to her recruits and that will taint the team, 7 players from one team reeks of nepotism. For those of you saying KAH just took the best players and they all just happen to be going to NU are justifying bad behavior, last time around she bullied her goalie onto the team (who later had to be replaced during a game at the tournament, and has since been benched at NU) and no NU team has been relevant in 6 years, I saw a post that said KAH has won 7 National titles, I disagree, the truth is Hannah Nielsen and Shannon smith have won 7 championships (no, my daughter never played for her, yes I think she is a phycho). Since the departure of those 2 played KAH has not been able to sustain any kind of dominance even with some of the top talent in the country. I would love to see the 100 player roster and see who got cut in place of those 7, and, more importantly, who didn't even accept, or try to make the team. In the end, IMHO, trying to take on Canada, and Australia without a single Goalie from either Long Island or Maryland is a recipe for disaster (see above comment about NU goalie). No matter what you say about great athletes, the truth is a B level goalie from those 2 areas are way better than a a goalie from Texas and Utah, simply because they play better competition day in and day out, again JMHO. For those who say my opinion is meaningless, I have been involved in this game as a player and coach for 35 years.

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like another 2nd place finish for the U-19 woman

At what point do you admit that you are a lost? When will you realize that trying to diminish others will not elevate your daughter ?

Let them whine all that they want... It looks like the coaches and evaluators took the selection process very serious. KAH wants to win.

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

I wrote the second place post, and for the record, my daughter is a senior in college, did not make the U-19 team the last time, nor do I think she deserved to. She is very good , just not top 50. Now lets talk facts. Last time around, the same argument happened, as it will next time around. the truth is simple, KAH is totally biased to her recruits and that will taint the team, 7 players from one team reeks of nepotism. For those of you saying KAH just took the best players and they all just happen to be going to NU are justifying bad behavior, last time around she bullied her goalie onto the team (who later had to be replaced during a game at the tournament, and has since been benched at NU) and no NU team has been relevant in 6 years, I saw a post that said KAH has won 7 National titles, I disagree, the truth is Hannah Nielsen and Shannon smith have won 7 championships (no, my daughter never played for her, yes I think she is a phycho). Since the departure of those 2 played KAH has not been able to sustain any kind of dominance even with some of the top talent in the country. I would love to see the 100 player roster and see who got cut in place of those 7, and, more importantly, who didn't even accept, or try to make the team. In the end, IMHO, trying to take on Canada, and Australia without a single Goalie from either Long Island or Maryland is a recipe for disaster (see above comment about NU goalie). No matter what you say about great athletes, the truth is a B level goalie from those 2 areas are way better than a a goalie from Texas and Utah, simply because they play better competition day in and day out, again JMHO. For those who say my opinion is meaningless, I have been involved in this game as a player and coach for 35 years.

Poster boy/girl for bitterness. Now that is a Fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

Ok I’m new to the conversation, how donthe chosen get politically connected/favorited? Do they play for the right clubs? Do they express interest in the schools the coaches come from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

And there you have it......read the last sentence...little YJ bee parent informing all that he/she is some kind of authority (oh yea, they all are), lets se....., daughter didn't try out-but little parent bee knows who should have been picked for team,, the tournament is a joke-little parent bee feels need to opine, little YJ bee parent has evaluated the process for "many years"-therefore knows more than the coaches doing evaluations, "the actual best girls were cut"-I guess little parent bee was observing the selection process, and of course the "shame" that this is allowed to happen. ........and they wonder how they get their reputation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like another 2nd place finish for the U-19 woman

At what point do you admit that you are a lost? When will you realize that trying to diminish others will not elevate your daughter ?

Let them whine all that they want... It looks like the coaches and evaluators took the selection process very serious. KAH wants to win.

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/team-usa-vlog-recaps-u19-womens-team-tryouts

I wrote the second place post, and for the record, my daughter is a senior in college, did not make the U-19 team the last time, nor do I think she deserved to. She is very good , just not top 50. Now lets talk facts. Last time around, the same argument happened, as it will next time around. the truth is simple, KAH is totally biased to her recruits and that will taint the team, 7 players from one team reeks of nepotism. For those of you saying KAH just took the best players and they all just happen to be going to NU are justifying bad behavior, last time around she bullied her goalie onto the team (who later had to be replaced during a game at the tournament, and has since been benched at NU) and no NU team has been relevant in 6 years, I saw a post that said KAH has won 7 National titles, I disagree, the truth is Hannah Nielsen and Shannon smith have won 7 championships (no, my daughter never played for her, yes I think she is a phycho). Since the departure of those 2 played KAH has not been able to sustain any kind of dominance even with some of the top talent in the country. I would love to see the 100 player roster and see who got cut in place of those 7, and, more importantly, who didn't even accept, or try to make the team. In the end, IMHO, trying to take on Canada, and Australia without a single Goalie from either Long Island or Maryland is a recipe for disaster (see above comment about NU goalie). No matter what you say about great athletes, the truth is a B level goalie from those 2 areas are way better than a a goalie from Texas and Utah, simply because they play better competition day in and day out, again JMHO. For those who say my opinion is meaningless, I have been involved in this game as a player and coach for 35 years.

Poster boy/girl for bitterness. Now that is a Fact!

Why do you call me bitter, I have no horse in this race, You on the other hand do sound bitter, did I strike a nerve? Is your daughter one of the ones that benefit from these actions, and like a any true benefactor of nepotism now your trying to reflect your feelings onto someone els. Be proud, your daughters talent took her to the brink, and your lips pushed her over the edge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

And there you have it......read the last sentence...little YJ bee parent informing all that he/she is some kind of authority (oh yea, they all are), lets se....., daughter didn't try out-but little parent bee knows who should have been picked for team,, the tournament is a joke-little parent bee feels need to opine, little YJ bee parent has evaluated the process for "many years"-therefore knows more than the coaches doing evaluations, "the actual best girls were cut"-I guess little parent bee was observing the selection process, and of course the "shame" that this is allowed to happen. ........and they wonder how they get their reputation.

You can try to change the subject, unfortunately facts don't lie. Tournament is a joke and US Lacrosse is incompetent. Excelling on a college team is a true sign of a great player, not being picked as someones favor for a low level tournament. Wait till they make the next round of cuts, will be another shshow! Like watching a car crash!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

And there you have it......read the last sentence...little YJ bee parent informing all that he/she is some kind of authority (oh yea, they all are), lets se....., daughter didn't try out-but little parent bee knows who should have been picked for team,, the tournament is a joke-little parent bee feels need to opine, little YJ bee parent has evaluated the process for "many years"-therefore knows more than the coaches doing evaluations, "the actual best girls were cut"-I guess little parent bee was observing the selection process, and of course the "shame" that this is allowed to happen. ........and they wonder how they get their reputation.

You can try to change the subject, unfortunately facts don't lie. Tournament is a joke and US Lacrosse is incompetent. Excelling on a college team is a true sign of a great player, not being picked as someones favor for a low level tournament. Wait till they make the next round of cuts, will be another shshow! Like watching a car crash!

Below is cut and paste from earlier post.... Don't know all of the players but I am sure that they are all very good. Some of you really need to give it a rest. Every time there is a Team or a List or a player who is named MVP or Recruited by a Top Program the haters come out to bash. I am pretty suer that just about all of the players from the last U19 Team are doing just fine at their respective colleges. I am willing to bet that this group will continue to excel as well. I am also willing to bet that the people bashing this team are the same people who bash everything else. Congrats to the players who were selected.

**"Here we go again, the jealousy bitterness and hate all over again. For years I have been listening to the same old bs from delusional parents who whine and complain about this sport. Most of the time the complaints come from parents who know very little about lacrosse or competitive athletics in general. The thing that amazes me most is how their lack of knowledge and understanding never stops them from spewing their nonsense.

109 young women were invited to the tryouts (I am sure they are all very good players) 36 were selected for the team I am also sure that those players are also very good players.

There are three 2017 players I am sure having played a year of college lacrosse gave them an advantage.

There are 17 players from the class of 2018. Eight of those players were ranked Top 40 by Inside lacrosse, were 2018 UA Senior All-Americans and now earned a spot on the US National Team. The College coaches at Duke, USC, Loyola, Princeton, Northwestern and North Carolina also think that these players are pretty darn good as well. But no, you know better it is all political and the selections are real head scratchers.

In addition to those eight players two of the other 18's were also ranked in the Top 40 by IL and they are excellent. Two others were on the IL watch list, (one of which was named 2018 UA Senior All-American and according to the announcers during the game had an incredible performance) and now they earned a spot on the US Team. Pretty good as well.

13 of the 17 players from the class of 2018 would be considered "Consensus All-Americans" but no, the know it all parents on this site know better than the people who evaluate talent for a living.

There were nine 2019's selected. Six of the nine played at UA and were also ranked by Inside Lacrosse and now made The US Team. One of the nine played at UA and another was ranked by IL. There was one player out of nine who did not play at UA and was not ranked by IL. The 2019's are headed to Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn State, Northwestern, North Carolina, Maryland, Richmond and UMass. I will take the consensus of IL, UA, USLacrosse and their future college coaches over the know nothing bitter hateful parents on this site. Six of nine IL, UA, USA.... but they aren't very good it was all based on politics.

It looks like four of six the 2020's would be considered consensus picks as they were ranked by IL, played at UA and now earned a spot on the US U19 National Team. The 20's are headed to Syracuse, UVA, Stanford, BC and one uncommitted. Pretty good.

I will take the opinions of IL, UA, the college coaches who recruited these players, the evaluators at the tryouts and most of all The Head Coach of the US U19 Women's National Team who by the way has a pretty impressive resume. The rest of you can go scratch your butt and continue to whine and complain.

USA!"**

You are really all a bunch of losers . Is there politics involved in the U19 team selection , absolutely . Will each of the players selected be at a minimum very good players, absolutely. Will every player who makes the team be a successful player in college , no chance , will some be successful , yes. To those of us who have kids that made it thru the selection process , congrats ,but don’t for a second believe that there are not many other players who could have gotten the spot and the team would do just as well. There are only two teams that have a chance at winning and honestly the US is much deeper in talent .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

And there you have it......read the last sentence...little YJ bee parent informing all that he/she is some kind of authority (oh yea, they all are), lets se....., daughter didn't try out-but little parent bee knows who should have been picked for team,, the tournament is a joke-little parent bee feels need to opine, little YJ bee parent has evaluated the process for "many years"-therefore knows more than the coaches doing evaluations, "the actual best girls were cut"-I guess little parent bee was observing the selection process, and of course the "shame" that this is allowed to happen. ........and they wonder how they get their reputation.

You can try to change the subject, unfortunately facts don't lie. Tournament is a joke and US Lacrosse is incompetent. Excelling on a college team is a true sign of a great player, not being picked as someones favor for a low level tournament. Wait till they make the next round of cuts, will be another shshow! Like watching a car crash!

Below is cut and paste from earlier post.... Don't know all of the players but I am sure that they are all very good. Some of you really need to give it a rest. Every time there is a Team or a List or a player who is named MVP or Recruited by a Top Program the haters come out to bash. I am pretty suer that just about all of the players from the last U19 Team are doing just fine at their respective colleges. I am willing to bet that this group will continue to excel as well. I am also willing to bet that the people bashing this team are the same people who bash everything else. Congrats to the players who were selected.

**"Here we go again, the jealousy bitterness and hate all over again. For years I have been listening to the same old bs from delusional parents who whine and complain about this sport. Most of the time the complaints come from parents who know very little about lacrosse or competitive athletics in general. The thing that amazes me most is how their lack of knowledge and understanding never stops them from spewing their nonsense.

109 young women were invited to the tryouts (I am sure they are all very good players) 36 were selected for the team I am also sure that those players are also very good players.

There are three 2017 players I am sure having played a year of college lacrosse gave them an advantage.

There are 17 players from the class of 2018. Eight of those players were ranked Top 40 by Inside lacrosse, were 2018 UA Senior All-Americans and now earned a spot on the US National Team. The College coaches at Duke, USC, Loyola, Princeton, Northwestern and North Carolina also think that these players are pretty darn good as well. But no, you know better it is all political and the selections are real head scratchers.

In addition to those eight players two of the other 18's were also ranked in the Top 40 by IL and they are excellent. Two others were on the IL watch list, (one of which was named 2018 UA Senior All-American and according to the announcers during the game had an incredible performance) and now they earned a spot on the US Team. Pretty good as well.

13 of the 17 players from the class of 2018 would be considered "Consensus All-Americans" but no, the know it all parents on this site know better than the people who evaluate talent for a living.

There were nine 2019's selected. Six of the nine played at UA and were also ranked by Inside Lacrosse and now made The US Team. One of the nine played at UA and another was ranked by IL. There was one player out of nine who did not play at UA and was not ranked by IL. The 2019's are headed to Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn State, Northwestern, North Carolina, Maryland, Richmond and UMass. I will take the consensus of IL, UA, USLacrosse and their future college coaches over the know nothing bitter hateful parents on this site. Six of nine IL, UA, USA.... but they aren't very good it was all based on politics.

It looks like four of six the 2020's would be considered consensus picks as they were ranked by IL, played at UA and now earned a spot on the US U19 National Team. The 20's are headed to Syracuse, UVA, Stanford, BC and one uncommitted. Pretty good.

I will take the opinions of IL, UA, the college coaches who recruited these players, the evaluators at the tryouts and most of all The Head Coach of the US U19 Women's National Team who by the way has a pretty impressive resume. The rest of you can go scratch your butt and continue to whine and complain.

USA!"**

Yawn.......boring which is why nobody cares or will be watching. Can we please get back to HS lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are really all a bunch of losers . Is there politics involved in the U19 team selection , absolutely . Will each of the players selected be at a minimum very good players, absolutely. Will every player who makes the team be a successful player in college , no chance , will some be successful , yes. To those of us who have kids that made it thru the selection process , congrats ,but don’t for a second believe that there are not many other players who could have gotten the spot and the team would do just as well. There are only two teams that have a chance at winning and honestly the US is much deeper in talent .

As with every time a "Team" is made or a "List" is put out or a player commits to one of the "Top Programs" the haters come on here and try to diminish the accomplishment and or the player.

You are a bunch of losers who need to realize that belittling others or the team/process will never elevate your daughter .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

haha get your grades up otherwise see ya at Marist!!!

I could be wrong but is it possible that of all the players that were named first team all Americans this year in D1 not one of them represented the USA playing for the U19 team . That cannot possibly be correct .If that is true how do you explain that other than one of those processes are overly political.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are really all a bunch of losers . Is there politics involved in the U19 team selection , absolutely . Will each of the players selected be at a minimum very good players, absolutely. Will every player who makes the team be a successful player in college , no chance , will some be successful , yes. To those of us who have kids that made it thru the selection process , congrats ,but don’t for a second believe that there are not many other players who could have gotten the spot and the team would do just as well. There are only two teams that have a chance at winning and honestly the US is much deeper in talent .

As with every time a "Team" is made or a "List" is put out or a player commits to one of the "Top Programs" the haters come on here and try to diminish the accomplishment and or the player.

You are a bunch of losers who need to realize that belittling others or the team/process will never elevate your daughter .

The thing you don’t get is several posters, including myself are not trying to “elevate “ our daughters. Mine is too young to try out, but one day she will be. It’s just gross how many of the most deserving kids are cut in favor of favors. Just wrong for the girls who worked their tails off and deserved a fair evaluation. I know..life’s not fair, but a US Lacrosse sponsored tryout should be. Bottom line

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

And there you have it......read the last sentence...little YJ bee parent informing all that he/she is some kind of authority (oh yea, they all are), lets se....., daughter didn't try out-but little parent bee knows who should have been picked for team,, the tournament is a joke-little parent bee feels need to opine, little YJ bee parent has evaluated the process for "many years"-therefore knows more than the coaches doing evaluations, "the actual best girls were cut"-I guess little parent bee was observing the selection process, and of course the "shame" that this is allowed to happen. ........and they wonder how they get their reputation.

Pretty funny since your daughters YJ team couldn't win UA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are really all a bunch of losers . Is there politics involved in the U19 team selection , absolutely . Will each of the players selected be at a minimum very good players, absolutely. Will every player who makes the team be a successful player in college , no chance , will some be successful , yes. To those of us who have kids that made it thru the selection process , congrats ,but don’t for a second believe that there are not many other players who could have gotten the spot and the team would do just as well. There are only two teams that have a chance at winning and honestly the US is much deeper in talent .

As with every time a "Team" is made or a "List" is put out or a player commits to one of the "Top Programs" the haters come on here and try to diminish the accomplishment and or the player.

You are a bunch of losers who need to realize that belittling others or the team/process will never elevate your daughter .

The thing you don’t get is several posters, including myself are not trying to “elevate “ our daughters. Mine is too young to try out, but one day she will be. It’s just gross how many of the most deserving kids are cut in favor of favors. Just wrong for the girls who worked their tails off and deserved a fair evaluation. I know..life’s not fair, but a US Lacrosse sponsored tryout should be. Bottom line

Most deserving ? Girls who worked their tails off? Get a grip, how the heck do you know who the most deserving players are? Are you suggesting that the players that made the team didn't work hard?

Keep telling yourself that you know better than the coaches who evaluated and picked the team. Do you realize how foolish you sound? The attacks by parents happen every time players other than their daughter recieve recognition. These losers post on this site, they spew their venom on the sidelines and they carry on in their social circles. They are jealous and bitter and they believe that their daughter is the best player out there. I do not know how the team was selected or who had the ultimate say but I believe KAH should have the most input.

The haters are going to hate , can't stop them. Just know this, most of the stunands posting and carrying on know very little about the sport but that never stops them from shooting their mouth off. It's actually funny listening to some of them but sad how their jealousy comes out as they try to tear others down.

Congratulations to all who made it. Good luck the rest of the way. Go USA!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could be wrong but is it possible that of all the players that were named first team all Americans this year in D1 not one of them represented the USA playing for the U19 team . That cannot possibly be correct .If that is true how do you explain that other than one of those processes are overly political.

Interesting. I would not have guessed that to be the case, but I think you are correct. Seniors would have been too old to be considered for that U19 team, but even including 2nd and 3rd AA teams there are only a couple of names in common for Fr, So, Jr players. Just goes to show that people put too much importance and get too worked up about teams like UA, U19, etc. It is what it is. Great experience for the girls selected, and we should all try to be happy for them even if our daughters weren’t selected because the players do not control the process. But, making these teams has no bearing on future success and accolades on college team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could be wrong but is it possible that of all the players that were named first team all Americans this year in D1 not one of them represented the USA playing for the U19 team . That cannot possibly be correct .If that is true how do you explain that other than one of those processes are overly political.

Interesting. I would not have guessed that to be the case, but I think you are correct. Seniors would have been too old to be considered for that U19 team, but even including 2nd and 3rd AA teams there are only a couple of names in common for Fr, So, Jr players. Just goes to show that people put too much importance and get too worked up about teams like UA, U19, etc. It is what it is. Great experience for the girls selected, and we should all try to be happy for them even if our daughters weren’t selected because the players do not control the process. But, making these teams has no bearing on future success and accolades on college team.

EXACTLY. Many of most talented girls are not getting because of politics. There is a big problem with the tryout process. Shame on US Lacrosse. Been going on for years and needs to stop!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could be wrong but is it possible that of all the players that were named first team all Americans this year in D1 not one of them represented the USA playing for the U19 team . That cannot possibly be correct .If that is true how do you explain that other than one of those processes are overly political.

Interesting. I would not have guessed that to be the case, but I think you are correct. Seniors would have been too old to be considered for that U19 team, but even including 2nd and 3rd AA teams there are only a couple of names in common for Fr, So, Jr players. Just goes to show that people put too much importance and get too worked up about teams like UA, U19, etc. It is what it is. Great experience for the girls selected, and we should all try to be happy for them even if our daughters weren’t selected because the players do not control the process. But, making these teams has no bearing on future success and accolades on college team.

I think the seniors could have made the previous U19 team but none did. Just seems like a strange coincidence but hopefully it gives some of these parents who are spouting off about their kids some humility. The posters on here who are stating that the whole U19 process is political are ridiculous but not as ridiculous as the parents of kids who made the cut so far and say no politics play a role. If you are trying to make it a true tryout process then the selected coaches of the team should not be involved in the selection process until the final cuts and evaluators should not be evaluating players they have a relationship with that may be perceived as a conflict .Now you will get the longwinded braggart who thinks KAH is the greatest coach in history and should be allowed to pick "her" team, the thing is its not her team.

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Sorry - I’m a NJ UA parent and just spit my coffee 🤣 Well done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes !! The coaches want to win !
They picked the players that will help them win !

I’ll bet all my money the negative comments are from parents of players that did not make the cut.
stop it - Use this as a way to make you daughter work harder instead of teaching her to make up excuses - adversity builds character!!

The coach can't even get her team into the NCAA tournament. Her players are good, not great. Many of the actual best girls were cut because of favoritism. My daughter did not try out since she is only in 9th grade. I have watched this process on boys and girls side for many years, and it is a total joke. As far as adversity building character, it's interesting if you follow kids cut from these teams that deserved to be there over the favors (we all know who they are) you will see that the majority went on to become college All Americans, where as the questionable kids picked by their college coaches didn't do much. Those are the facts, and it's a shame that US Lacrosse allows this to happen! As far as winning, this tournament is a joke, no other country knows how to play lacrosse with the exception of Canada mens, so stop with your best chances of winning, my daughters 9th grade YJ team would beat every team that the USA team plays.

And there you have it......read the last sentence...little YJ bee parent informing all that he/she is some kind of authority (oh yea, they all are), lets se....., daughter didn't try out-but little parent bee knows who should have been picked for team,, the tournament is a joke-little parent bee feels need to opine, little YJ bee parent has evaluated the process for "many years"-therefore knows more than the coaches doing evaluations, "the actual best girls were cut"-I guess little parent bee was observing the selection process, and of course the "shame" that this is allowed to happen. ........and they wonder how they get their reputation.

Pretty funny since your daughters YJ team couldn't win UA

UA is way more competitive than the "USA" team competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could be wrong but is it possible that of all the players that were named first team all Americans this year in D1 not one of them represented the USA playing for the U19 team . That cannot possibly be correct .If that is true how do you explain that other than one of those processes are overly political.

Interesting. I would not have guessed that to be the case, but I think you are correct. Seniors would have been too old to be considered for that U19 team, but even including 2nd and 3rd AA teams there are only a couple of names in common for Fr, So, Jr players. Just goes to show that people put too much importance and get too worked up about teams like UA, U19, etc. It is what it is. Great experience for the girls selected, and we should all try to be happy for them even if our daughters weren’t selected because the players do not control the process. But, making these teams has no bearing on future success and accolades on college team.

I think the seniors could have made the previous U19 team but none did. Just seems like a strange coincidence but hopefully it gives some of these parents who are spouting off about their kids some humility. The posters on here who are stating that the whole U19 process is political are ridiculous but not as ridiculous as the parents of kids who made the cut so far and say no politics play a role. If you are trying to make it a true tryout process then the selected coaches of the team should not be involved in the selection process until the final cuts and evaluators should not be evaluating players they have a relationship with that may be perceived as a conflict .Now you will get the longwinded braggart who thinks KAH is the greatest coach in history and should be allowed to pick "her" team, the thing is its not her team.

Somebody gets it. Wish others didn't have their heads buried in the sand, or elsewhere!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could be wrong but is it possible that of all the players that were named first team all Americans this year in D1 not one of them represented the USA playing for the U19 team . That cannot possibly be correct .If that is true how do you explain that other than one of those processes are overly political.

Interesting. I would not have guessed that to be the case, but I think you are correct. Seniors would have been too old to be considered for that U19 team, but even including 2nd and 3rd AA teams there are only a couple of names in common for Fr, So, Jr players. Just goes to show that people put too much importance and get too worked up about teams like UA, U19, etc. It is what it is. Great experience for the girls selected, and we should all try to be happy for them even if our daughters weren’t selected because the players do not control the process. But, making these teams has no bearing on future success and accolades on college team.

I think the seniors could have made the previous U19 team but none did. Just seems like a strange coincidence but hopefully it gives some of these parents who are spouting off about their kids some humility. The posters on here who are stating that the whole U19 process is political are ridiculous but not as ridiculous as the parents of kids who made the cut so far and say no politics play a role. If you are trying to make it a true tryout process then the selected coaches of the team should not be involved in the selection process until the final cuts and evaluators should not be evaluating players they have a relationship with that may be perceived as a conflict .Now you will get the longwinded braggart who thinks KAH is the greatest coach in history and should be allowed to pick "her" team, the thing is its not her team.

Somebody gets it. Wish others didn't have their heads buried in the sand, or elsewhere!

Nothing wrong about being proud of your daughter! Plus there are many girls that were chosen that have no political ties whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Just looked at the list.

Northwestern - 7
North Carolina - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Princeton - 2
Duke - 2
UMass - 2
Maryland - 2
USC
Brown
Hofstra
Loyola
Richmond
Penn State
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Stanford
Penn
Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse

two players not committed.

With the exception of Northwestern it looks like a pretty good mix of schools. I have no problem with the Head Coach selecting her players "she recruited them so obviously she thinks that they are good players". Were there NU players / recruits at the tryout who did not make the team? Were there NU players / recruits who did not get invited to the tryouts? Do you think that none of the NU players / recruits belong on the team.

I think that as usual most of the banter on here stems from sour grapes. It is not all politics.

Congrats to the players who made the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Just looked at the list.

Northwestern - 7
North Carolina - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Princeton - 2
Duke - 2
UMass - 2
Maryland - 2
USC
Brown
Hofstra
Loyola
Richmond
Penn State
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Stanford
Penn
Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse

two players not committed.

With the exception of Northwestern it looks like a pretty good mix of schools. I have no problem with the Head Coach selecting her players "she recruited them so obviously she thinks that they are good players". Were there NU players / recruits at the tryout who did not make the team? Were there NU players / recruits who did not get invited to the tryouts? Do you think that none of the NU players / recruits belong on the team.

I think that as usual most of the banter on here stems from sour grapes. It is not all politics.

Congrats to the players who made the team.

That’s what you take away from that list? Really? Blind
USlacrosse should allow the coaches a limit of 2 so this does not happen.

Soooo....lets review....6 pages of drivel about the U19 team. And what did we learn??? Some girls made the team and some were cut. The coach doesn't know what she is doing. US lacrosse is useless. The players that made it were picked because of politics. The YJ 9th grade team would win the tournament. I would say they are the same conclusions found on most of the BOTC threads just insert boys/girls and grad year. The only thing missing is one team calling another teams parent obnoxious know-it-alls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Just looked at the list.

Northwestern - 7
North Carolina - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Princeton - 2
Duke - 2
UMass - 2
Maryland - 2
USC
Brown
Hofstra
Loyola
Richmond
Penn State
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Stanford
Penn
Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse

two players not committed.

With the exception of Northwestern it looks like a pretty good mix of schools. I have no problem with the Head Coach selecting her players "she recruited them so obviously she thinks that they are good players". Were there NU players / recruits at the tryout who did not make the team? Were there NU players / recruits who did not get invited to the tryouts? Do you think that none of the NU players / recruits belong on the team.

I think that as usual most of the banter on here stems from sour grapes. It is not all politics.

Congrats to the players who made the team.

That’s what you take away from that list? Really? Blind
USlacrosse should allow the coaches a limit of 2 so this does not happen.

Yes, and this is my issue with US USELESS. Happens every time they pick a National team. They do absolutely nothing for the sport but collect money for there own use, not to further the sport. Just sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Just looked at the list.

Northwestern - 7
North Carolina - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Princeton - 2
Duke - 2
UMass - 2
Maryland - 2
USC
Brown
Hofstra
Loyola
Richmond
Penn State
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Stanford
Penn
Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse

two players not committed.

With the exception of Northwestern it looks like a pretty good mix of schools. I have no problem with the Head Coach selecting her players "she recruited them so obviously she thinks that they are good players". Were there NU players / recruits at the tryout who did not make the team? Were there NU players / recruits who did not get invited to the tryouts? Do you think that none of the NU players / recruits belong on the team.

I think that as usual most of the banter on here stems from sour grapes. It is not all politics.

Congrats to the players who made the team.

That’s what you take away from that list? Really? Blind
USlacrosse should allow the coaches a limit of 2 so this does not happen.

Yes, and this is my issue with US USELESS. Happens every time they pick a National team. They do absolutely nothing for the sport but collect money for there own use, not to further the sport. Just sad!

Waaaaaah waaaaaah waaaaaaah. Enough with your whining. What do they do every time? Here is s news flash: Lacrosse is not an individual sport, it is not wrestling or swimming or track . All evaluators have their own opinions coaches know the type of player they want. There are always going to be more capable players than there are roster spots. If 109 players were invited to tryout and they selected 36 there are at least an additional 10 - 15 players who are at the same level as the players who made the team. The head coach should have final say. Stop with the it's not fair BS. Nothing is fair. Who should select the team? Delusional parents who know nothing yet question every team that has ever been picked?

It is always the same on here. Disgruntled , delusional parents of players who are not picked or named or recruited come on here and [ChillLaxin].

If your daughter made it that's great, good for her be proud.

If your daughter was not selected that stinks.

As we approach September 1, we can all look forward to more of the same whining and negative comments when the 2020's start committing. Lets see, we will hear "thats a real head scratcher" "she will never play there" "50% of the girls quit" "she only got book money" "my daughter is going D III because she wants to focus on academics" "she will major in basketweaving" "I don't get it, why did they recruit her, I just don't see it" "it's all politics" "you have to be connected to get the looks" "her father knows someone" "she is not even the best on our team, how is she going there" Bla Bla Bla.

Good luck to all. Hope your daughter finds the right fit.

[quote=Anonymous]As we approach September 1, we can all look forward to more of the same whining and negative comments when the 2020's start committing. Lets see, we will hear "thats a real head scratcher" "she will never play there" "50% of the girls quit" "she only got book money" "my daughter is going D III because she wants to focus on academics" "she will major in basketweaving" "I don't get it, why did they recruit her, I just don't see it" "it's all politics" "you have to be connected to get the looks" "her father knows someone" "she is not even the best on our team, how is she going there" Bla Bla Bla.

Good luck to all. Hope your daughter finds the right fit.

Ha. I agree. reference #271584 if you want to add a few more comments we can expect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Just looked at the list.

Northwestern - 7
North Carolina - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Princeton - 2
Duke - 2
UMass - 2
Maryland - 2
USC
Brown
Hofstra
Loyola
Richmond
Penn State
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Stanford
Penn
Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse

two players not committed.

With the exception of Northwestern it looks like a pretty good mix of schools. I have no problem with the Head Coach selecting her players "she recruited them so obviously she thinks that they are good players". Were there NU players / recruits at the tryout who did not make the team? Were there NU players / recruits who did not get invited to the tryouts? Do you think that none of the NU players / recruits belong on the team.

I think that as usual most of the banter on here stems from sour grapes. It is not all politics.

Congrats to the players who made the team.

That’s what you take away from that list? Really? Blind
USlacrosse should allow the coaches a limit of 2 so this does not happen.

Yes, and this is my issue with US USELESS. Happens every time they pick a National team. They do absolutely nothing for the sport but collect money for there own use, not to further the sport. Just sad!

Waaaaaah waaaaaah waaaaaaah. Enough with your whining. What do they do every time? Here is s news flash: Lacrosse is not an individual sport, it is not wrestling or swimming or track . All evaluators have their own opinions coaches know the type of player they want. There are always going to be more capable players than there are roster spots. If 109 players were invited to tryout and they selected 36 there are at least an additional 10 - 15 players who are at the same level as the players who made the team. The head coach should have final say. Stop with the it's not fair BS. Nothing is fair. Who should select the team? Delusional parents who know nothing yet question every team that has ever been picked?

It is always the same on here. Disgruntled , delusional parents of players who are not picked or named or recruited come on here and [ChillLaxin].

If your daughter made it that's great, good for her be proud.

If your daughter was not selected that stinks.

You think you know it all, however if you learned how to read, you would see that several people commenting did NOT have a daughter who tried out, so your theory is dead wrong. SOME people just look at whats going on and see that there are major problems in this process. Maybe, one day my daughter will try out for this team, and I would like to see the process be fair.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Just looked at the list.

Northwestern - 7
North Carolina - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Princeton - 2
Duke - 2
UMass - 2
Maryland - 2
USC
Brown
Hofstra
Loyola
Richmond
Penn State
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Stanford
Penn
Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse

two players not committed.

With the exception of Northwestern it looks like a pretty good mix of schools. I have no problem with the Head Coach selecting her players "she recruited them so obviously she thinks that they are good players". Were there NU players / recruits at the tryout who did not make the team? Were there NU players / recruits who did not get invited to the tryouts? Do you think that none of the NU players / recruits belong on the team.

I think that as usual most of the banter on here stems from sour grapes. It is not all politics.

Congrats to the players who made the team.

That’s what you take away from that list? Really? Blind
USlacrosse should allow the coaches a limit of 2 so this does not happen.

Yes, and this is my issue with US USELESS. Happens every time they pick a National team. They do absolutely nothing for the sport but collect money for there own use, not to further the sport. Just sad!

Waaaaaah waaaaaah waaaaaaah. Enough with your whining. What do they do every time? Here is s news flash: Lacrosse is not an individual sport, it is not wrestling or swimming or track . All evaluators have their own opinions coaches know the type of player they want. There are always going to be more capable players than there are roster spots. If 109 players were invited to tryout and they selected 36 there are at least an additional 10 - 15 players who are at the same level as the players who made the team. The head coach should have final say. Stop with the it's not fair BS. Nothing is fair. Who should select the team? Delusional parents who know nothing yet question every team that has ever been picked?

It is always the same on here. Disgruntled , delusional parents of players who are not picked or named or recruited come on here and [ChillLaxin].

If your daughter made it that's great, good for her be proud.

If your daughter was not selected that stinks.

You think you know it all, however if you learned how to read, you would see that several people commenting did NOT have a daughter who tried out, so your theory is dead wrong. SOME people just look at whats going on and see that there are major problems in this process. Maybe, one day my daughter will try out for this team, and I would like to see the process be fair.

But until then it is tainted, the team stinks, theirs no competition etc etc.... I guess all the parents of the kids that made it and worked their butts off preparing should not be proud and excited...its really not an honor and it's a waste.

If they straighten out the process, it will be an honor, but there still won’t be any real competition. UA is the real U19 competition, and that one has its issues as well, but not as bad.

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forget who made it, who did not make it. Those petty snubs and favors will always exist. Don’t look at the players names, don’t look at the clubs they played for or the states or anything else. Purely look at where they are committed to. Eyes wide open, glaring problem with the selection 100% based on that criteria alone. If you don’t see it, you are blind and willing to look the other way. Not bitter, don’t have a kid eligible for this go around, and I did not form my opinion on makes and not makes. I purely looked at the commit list and was blown away, scream politics at the highest level.

Just looked at the list.

Northwestern - 7
North Carolina - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Princeton - 2
Duke - 2
UMass - 2
Maryland - 2
USC
Brown
Hofstra
Loyola
Richmond
Penn State
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Stanford
Penn
Virginia
Boston College
Syracuse

two players not committed.

With the exception of Northwestern it looks like a pretty good mix of schools. I have no problem with the Head Coach selecting her players "she recruited them so obviously she thinks that they are good players". Were there NU players / recruits at the tryout who did not make the team? Were there NU players / recruits who did not get invited to the tryouts? Do you think that none of the NU players / recruits belong on the team.

I think that as usual most of the banter on here stems from sour grapes. It is not all politics.

Congrats to the players who made the team.

That’s what you take away from that list? Really? Blind
USlacrosse should allow the coaches a limit of 2 so this does not happen.

Yes, and this is my issue with US USELESS. Happens every time they pick a National team. They do absolutely nothing for the sport but collect money for there own use, not to further the sport. Just sad!

Waaaaaah waaaaaah waaaaaaah. Enough with your whining. What do they do every time? Here is s news flash: Lacrosse is not an individual sport, it is not wrestling or swimming or track . All evaluators have their own opinions coaches know the type of player they want. There are always going to be more capable players than there are roster spots. If 109 players were invited to tryout and they selected 36 there are at least an additional 10 - 15 players who are at the same level as the players who made the team. The head coach should have final say. Stop with the it's not fair BS. Nothing is fair. Who should select the team? Delusional parents who know nothing yet question every team that has ever been picked?

It is always the same on here. Disgruntled , delusional parents of players who are not picked or named or recruited come on here and [ChillLaxin].

If your daughter made it that's great, good for her be proud.

If your daughter was not selected that stinks.

You think you know it all, however if you learned how to read, you would see that several people commenting did NOT have a daughter who tried out, so your theory is dead wrong. SOME people just look at whats going on and see that there are major problems in this process. Maybe, one day my daughter will try out for this team, and I would like to see the process be fair.

There are also several people posting (who did not have a daughter at the tryout) who just can't listen to the same old BS about it not being fair. Club team tryouts are not fair, High School Honors are not fair, Brine not fair, Under Armour not fair, Maryland Holdbacks not fair, School Girls not fair, All Tournament / MVP not fair, Inside Lacrosse Player Rankings not fair , Under Armour Senior All-America not fair, Recruiting not fair, US U19 National Team not fair, US National Team Not fair, NCAA Tournament Seedings not fair, College Rankings not fair, Tewarraton Award Not fair. The list goes on and on and it is always the same. Most of the time the debate / argument starts after a delusional or disgruntled parent posts a negative comment in order to diminish the players that were recognized and or made a team. It is always sour grapes and they try to tear down and diminish everything .

Congratulations to the young women who made the team. It is an incredible honor and they should be proud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

I assume that you are referencing the Under Armour Underclass Tournament (288 players). I would expect the competition to be tougher at the U19 Tryouts (109 players) due to the fact that 2018's and 2017's were at the U19 Tryouts. Under Armour is by far the most competitive tournament around. The Senior All-American game is the highest level of High School competition (44 players). When compairing the rosters of the 44 Under Armour All-Americans and the list of players who were invited to try out for the US Team I see many of the same names. When you throw in the 2019's and 2020's many who also competed at Under Armour and were considered standouts you are going to have a very competitive situation. More than 500 players applied to tryout. The coaches invited 109 players. I am sure that all of the players at the tryout were very strong. No easy way to select the team, too many good players to choose from. There will never be a clear drop off at a given number. I watched the video of the tryouts and read and listened to what KAH said they were looking for. It looks to me like they told the players what they were looking for and I have to believe they held true during their evaluations. I don't like the disproportionate number of Northwestern Players but I get it and I absolutely believe that the coach of any team should have more of a say than anyone else.

There is no shortage of haters on here who will complain about the tryouts and then sit around wishing for the players who made it to fail in some way. I choose to wish the players and the coaches well.

109 players went out and gave their best effort. They should all be proud it is an honor to be invited to such a tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

Just not be a first team AA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

I assume that you are referencing the Under Armour Underclass Tournament (288 players). I would expect the competition to be tougher at the U19 Tryouts (109 players) due to the fact that 2018's and 2017's were at the U19 Tryouts. Under Armour is by far the most competitive tournament around. The Senior All-American game is the highest level of High School competition (44 players). When compairing the rosters of the 44 Under Armour All-Americans and the list of players who were invited to try out for the US Team I see many of the same names. When you throw in the 2019's and 2020's many who also competed at Under Armour and were considered standouts you are going to have a very competitive situation. More than 500 players applied to tryout. The coaches invited 109 players. I am sure that all of the players at the tryout were very strong. No easy way to select the team, too many good players to choose from. There will never be a clear drop off at a given number. I watched the video of the tryouts and read and listened to what KAH said they were looking for. It looks to me like they told the players what they were looking for and I have to believe they held true during their evaluations. I don't like the disproportionate number of Northwestern Players but I get it and I absolutely believe that the coach of any team should have more of a say than anyone else.

There is no shortage of haters on here who will complain about the tryouts and then sit around wishing for the players who made it to fail in some way. I choose to wish the players and the coaches well.

109 players went out and gave their best effort. They should all be proud it is an honor to be invited to such a tryout.

I was talking about the level of competition, not making the UA team. The U19 team may be more difficult to make, but after that there is no competition, not exciting, nobody cares. Where as in the UA games there are many talented girls spread over many teams, making for great lacrosse. Have fun playing team Israel!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

Just not be a first team AA.

Go away lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

I assume that you are referencing the Under Armour Underclass Tournament (288 players). I would expect the competition to be tougher at the U19 Tryouts (109 players) due to the fact that 2018's and 2017's were at the U19 Tryouts. Under Armour is by far the most competitive tournament around. The Senior All-American game is the highest level of High School competition (44 players). When compairing the rosters of the 44 Under Armour All-Americans and the list of players who were invited to try out for the US Team I see many of the same names. When you throw in the 2019's and 2020's many who also competed at Under Armour and were considered standouts you are going to have a very competitive situation. More than 500 players applied to tryout. The coaches invited 109 players. I am sure that all of the players at the tryout were very strong. No easy way to select the team, too many good players to choose from. There will never be a clear drop off at a given number. I watched the video of the tryouts and read and listened to what KAH said they were looking for. It looks to me like they told the players what they were looking for and I have to believe they held true during their evaluations. I don't like the disproportionate number of Northwestern Players but I get it and I absolutely believe that the coach of any team should have more of a say than anyone else.

There is no shortage of haters on here who will complain about the tryouts and then sit around wishing for the players who made it to fail in some way. I choose to wish the players and the coaches well.

109 players went out and gave their best effort. They should all be proud it is an honor to be invited to such a tryout.

I was talking about the level of competition, not making the UA team. The U19 team may be more difficult to make, but after that there is no competition, not exciting, nobody cares. Where as in the UA games there are many talented girls spread over many teams, making for great lacrosse. Have fun playing team Israel!

500 plus players (parents) cared enough to want to be a part of the tryouts / team / games. Funny how only after players don't make it their parents belittle it and say nobody cares. Have heard all of the same nonsense regarding Under Armour for years.

The haters come out every time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

Sounds great but you need to be invited to the tryout.. not an option for most players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

I assume that you are referencing the Under Armour Underclass Tournament (288 players). I would expect the competition to be tougher at the U19 Tryouts (109 players) due to the fact that 2018's and 2017's were at the U19 Tryouts. Under Armour is by far the most competitive tournament around. The Senior All-American game is the highest level of High School competition (44 players). When compairing the rosters of the 44 Under Armour All-Americans and the list of players who were invited to try out for the US Team I see many of the same names. When you throw in the 2019's and 2020's many who also competed at Under Armour and were considered standouts you are going to have a very competitive situation. More than 500 players applied to
tryout. The coaches invited 109 players. I am sure that all of the players at the tryout were very strong. No easy way to select the team, too many good players to choose from. There will never be a clear drop off at a given number. I watched the video of the tryouts and read and listened to what KAH said they were looking for. It looks to me like they told the players what they were looking for and I have to believe they held true during their evaluations. I don't like the disproportionate number of Northwestern Players but I get it and I absolutely believe that the coach of any team should have more of a say than anyone else.

There is no shortage of haters on here who will complain about the tryouts and then sit around wishing for the players who made it to fail in some way. I choose to wish the players and the coaches well.

109 players went out and gave their best effort. They should all be proud it is an honor to be invited to such a tryout.

I was talking about the level of competition, not making the UA team. The U19 team may be more difficult to make, but after that there is no competition, not exciting, nobody cares. Where as in the UA games there are many talented girls spread over many teams, making for great lacrosse. Have fun playing team Israel!

500 plus players (parents) cared enough to want to be a part of the tryouts / team / games. Funny how only after players don't make it their parents belittle it and say nobody cares. Have heard all of the same nonsense regarding Under Armour for years.

The haters come out every time.

500 , so less than UA , interesting. Its a nice thing to put on your resume but I would think there would be a lot more if the costs of making the team were not so ridiculous. Hate the fundraising ( begging) aspect of the whole thing, I know when my oldest did it the cost to be a part of the team and go watch was somewhere in the neighborhood of 15000 ,some of which we did fundraise for but ultimately paid most out of our own pocket. Seemed obnoxious to ask friends , family, neighbors to help fund my own kids lacrosse tournament when their money could go to a lot more important things, soured the whole event. Serious question has anyone estimated the costs this time around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at both UA and U19.
The U19 was much more competitive and difficult.
The U19 had better athletes. All the players were A+ players.
UA has a range of A+ to B level talent.
Just the workout alone at the U19 was worth spending the weekend.
I would recommend it to any player that wants to play college lacrosse!

I assume that you are referencing the Under Armour Underclass Tournament (288 players). I would expect the competition to be tougher at the U19 Tryouts (109 players) due to the fact that 2018's and 2017's were at the U19 Tryouts. Under Armour is by far the most competitive tournament around. The Senior All-American game is the highest level of High School competition (44 players). When compairing the rosters of the 44 Under Armour All-Americans and the list of players who were invited to try out for the US Team I see many of the same names. When you throw in the 2019's and 2020's many who also competed at Under Armour and were considered standouts you are going to have a very competitive situation. More than 500 players applied to tryout. The coaches invited 109 players. I am sure that all of the players at the tryout were very strong. No easy way to select the team, too many good players to choose from. There will never be a clear drop off at a given number. I watched the video of the tryouts and read and listened to what KAH said they were looking for. It looks to me like they told the players what they were looking for and I have to believe they held true during their evaluations. I don't like the disproportionate number of Northwestern Players but I get it and I absolutely believe that the coach of any team should have more of a say than anyone else.

There is no shortage of haters on here who will complain about the tryouts and then sit around wishing for the players who made it to fail in some way. I choose to wish the players and the coaches well.

109 players went out and gave their best effort. They should all be proud it is an honor to be invited to such a tryout.

I was talking about the level of competition, not making the UA team. The U19 team may be more difficult to make, but after that there is no competition, not exciting, nobody cares. Where as in the UA games there are many talented girls spread over many teams, making for great lacrosse. Have fun playing team Israel!

500 plus players (parents) cared enough to want to be a part of the tryouts / team / games. Funny how only after players don't make it their parents belittle it and say nobody cares. Have heard all of the same nonsense regarding Under Armour for years.

The haters come out every time.

My daughter is too young to tryout, so please stop with the “didn’t make it” comment. It’s the only thing you know how to say when you have no answer. Please tell me who U19 will play that will give better competition that UA? U19 is a waste of money donated to US Lacrosse that could benefit many more players, such as age verified ID cards. Instead they fund a lame tournament that has an extremely biased tryout process.

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Its called entitlement mentality. We live in times when our kids don't get cut. Have too many for one/two/three teams? that's ok, we will create another team so your little bundle of talent can play on a team.Our kids all get medals growing up playing sports. If someone else succeeds, it cant be because they are better. There must be something else at play. Travel directors promise that for the right fee, your child be the next best thing and when he/she doesn't get the accolades that he/she deserves, its because someone screwed them.
This generation of kids is doomed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its called entitlement mentality. We live in times when our kids don't get cut. Have too many for one/two/three teams? that's ok, we will create another team so your little bundle of talent can play on a team.Our kids all get medals growing up playing sports. If someone else succeeds, it cant be because they are better. There must be something else at play. Travel directors promise that for the right fee, your child be the next best thing and when he/she doesn't get the accolades that he/she deserves, its because someone screwed them.
This generation of kids is doomed.

The only one entitled here are the NU kids, lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its called entitlement mentality. We live in times when our kids don't get cut. Have too many for one/two/three teams? that's ok, we will create another team so your little bundle of talent can play on a team.Our kids all get medals growing up playing sports. If someone else succeeds, it cant be because they are better. There must be something else at play. Travel directors promise that for the right fee, your child be the next best thing and when he/she doesn't get the accolades that he/she deserves, its because someone screwed them.
This generation of kids is doomed.

The only one entitled here are the NU kids, lol.

And, will disappear in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its called entitlement mentality. We live in times when our kids don't get cut. Have too many for one/two/three teams? that's ok, we will create another team so your little bundle of talent can play on a team.Our kids all get medals growing up playing sports. If someone else succeeds, it cant be because they are better. There must be something else at play. Travel directors promise that for the right fee, your child be the next best thing and when he/she doesn't get the accolades that he/she deserves, its because someone screwed them.
This generation of kids is doomed.

The only one entitled here are the NU kids, lol.

And, will disappear in college.

They can't control themselves .... Sour grapes, jealousy , bitterness and hate. Always spewing the venom because you are a snake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its called entitlement mentality. We live in times when our kids don't get cut. Have too many for one/two/three teams? that's ok, we will create another team so your little bundle of talent can play on a team.Our kids all get medals growing up playing sports. If someone else succeeds, it cant be because they are better. There must be something else at play. Travel directors promise that for the right fee, your child be the next best thing and when he/she doesn't get the accolades that he/she deserves, its because someone screwed them.
This generation of kids is doomed.

The only one entitled here are the NU kids, lol.

And, will disappear in college.

They can't control themselves .... Sour grapes, jealousy , bitterness and hate. Always spewing the venom because you are a snake.

Don't worry....you'll always have the team Israel victory!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its called entitlement mentality. We live in times when our kids don't get cut. Have too many for one/two/three teams? that's ok, we will create another team so your little bundle of talent can play on a team.Our kids all get medals growing up playing sports. If someone else succeeds, it cant be because they are better. There must be something else at play. Travel directors promise that for the right fee, your child be the next best thing and when he/she doesn't get the accolades that he/she deserves, its because someone screwed them.
This generation of kids is doomed.

The only one entitled here are the NU kids, lol.

And, will disappear in college.

They can't control themselves .... Sour grapes, jealousy , bitterness and hate. Always spewing the venom because you are a snake.

Don't worry....you'll always have the team Israel victory!

And there you go again....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Amen brother!!! I am just stating out elementary school and have yet to experience any negativity. Hopefully it is a change of things to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Yawn...........fell asleep half way through that😴

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Yawn...........fell asleep half way through that😴

Yes, would have been much more productive and insightful if she had attacked a player or bashed a team or club or tried to discredit someone or something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Yawn...........fell asleep half way through that😴

Yes, would have been much more productive and insightful if she had attacked a player or bashed a team or club or tried to discredit someone or something.

Guarantee the "Yawn" post was made by someone who wishes ill will upon others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Yawn...........fell asleep half way through that😴

Yes, would have been much more productive and insightful if she had attacked a player or bashed a team or club or tried to discredit someone or something.

Guarantee the "Yawn" post was made by someone who wishes ill will upon others.

Gotta agree with Yawn. Honestly you people are pathetic. Both the parents that have kids who have made all the UA teams,Schoolgirls teams ,U19 etc and parents that have kids that have not are delusional. Honestly my kid was top 5 recruit and a very good player but if you don't think politics and luck did not have something to do with her accolades you are just naïve. Have no idea why but she was on all the to schools radar early and I have to believe all that becomes a bit of a snowball and gives these players an advantage in making the so called "all-star " teams. That said there were 5-6 other players on her travel team that received no where close to the attention that could have but did not. On the opposite side you have parents of kids that have no interest from top programs, never make any all star team while trying out for them all, are role players for their travel team but believe everyone is wrong about their kid are just as delusional. By the way many of these kids who get recruited by the to programs will never see the field in any meaningful way , its just a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Yawn...........fell asleep half way through that😴

Yes, would have been much more productive and insightful if she had attacked a player or bashed a team or club or tried to discredit someone or something.

Guarantee the "Yawn" post was made by someone who wishes ill will upon others.

Gotta agree with Yawn. Honestly you people are pathetic. Both the parents that have kids who have made all the UA teams,Schoolgirls teams ,U19 etc and parents that have kids that have not are delusional. Honestly my kid was top 5 recruit and a very good player but if you don't think politics and luck did not have something to do with her accolades you are just naïve. Have no idea why but she was on all the to schools radar early and I have to believe all that becomes a bit of a snowball and gives these players an advantage in making the so called "all-star " teams. That said there were 5-6 other players on her travel team that received no where close to the attention that could have but did not. On the opposite side you have parents of kids that have no interest from top programs, never make any all star team while trying out for them all, are role players for their travel team but believe everyone is wrong about their kid are just as delusional. By the way many of these kids who get recruited by the to programs will never see the field in any meaningful way , its just a fact.

100% agree...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Yawn...........fell asleep half way through that😴

Yes, would have been much more productive and insightful if she had attacked a player or bashed a team or club or tried to discredit someone or something.

Guarantee the "Yawn" post was made by someone who wishes ill will upon others.

Gotta agree with Yawn. Honestly you people are pathetic. Both the parents that have kids who have made all the UA teams,Schoolgirls teams ,U19 etc and parents that have kids that have not are delusional. Honestly my kid was top 5 recruit and a very good player but if you don't think politics and luck did not have something to do with her accolades you are just naïve. Have no idea why but she was on all the to schools radar early and I have to believe all that becomes a bit of a snowball and gives these players an advantage in making the so called "all-star " teams. That said there were 5-6 other players on her travel team that received no where close to the attention that could have but did not. On the opposite side you have parents of kids that have no interest from top programs, never make any all star team while trying out for them all, are role players for their travel team but believe everyone is wrong about their kid are just as delusional. By the way many of these kids who get recruited by the to programs will never see the field in any meaningful way , its just a fact.

By your account everyone except you is pathetic and delusional yet here you are on this site thinking that you are better than the rest of the people posting. You are also one of the negative types who have to try and tear down the girls.

" By the way many of these kids who get recruited by the to programs will never see the field in any meaningful way , its just a fact."

Here is another fact, many of the girls recruited by the top programs will start and play every game and have incredible college careers. Some will become captains, some will earn All-Conference Honors, Some will earn All-America Honors, some will win The Tewaaraton Award, some will earn a spot on the US National Team. that is a fact.

This sport is toxic. Bitter jealous parents go on the attack every time a team is picked (club "A" team, varsity team, school girls team, UA team, US team etc..). They also go on the attack when the first commits in each class begin to commit. They come out of the woodwork just about every time accolades or write ups come out. Everyone knows there is some degree of politics but the haters would have us believe that it is "All Politics". It is a mantra that is used as they try and set the narrative in order to further their agenda. The narrative is "these teams, rankings, lists, accolades etc.. mean nothing". Their agenda is to elevate their daughters status by trying to tear down or diminish the accomplishments of others. Just as you felt the need to point out that many of the players going to top programs will never see the field. What was the purpose of your statement?

I do not post often but this is one of the topics that gets me going. It has nothing to do with where any of my children fall in the pecking order. It has everything to do with the negative and toxic vibe that has permeated this sport. I played a sport in college at a pretty high level, my wife was a competitive college athlete, all of our children boys and girls played / play multiple sports. Nothing comes close to this mess. I don't know why but it is cesspool.

Every time one of these debates / arguments comes up it is always started by a disgruntled parent. 100% of the time they come on here and attack the team, the coach, the process or whatever and IMHO it is always to diminish someone or something in order to try to elevate their daughter. Never do I see the parents of players who make these teams or receive accolades come on here and attack or belittle the players who do not make these teams or receive accolades.

I'm sure there are a few pot stirrers as well.

Some of us just cant stand the negative bitter BS even when it has nothing to do with our children.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh the lengts some will go to in order to diminish any event, team, ranking, accolade etc...

Small minded twits who always try to elevate their daughters status by knocking whatever it is that their daughter didn't make.

Very rare to hear someone pay complement to anyone in this sport. From elementary school up to the Women's National Team the know nothing parents question every selection and accolade. Everything is always political, nothing is fair, none of the choices are correct.

Please do not pass your negative traits along to your daughter .

Agree 100%.

Begininning in elementary school certain parents actively try to tear down, belittle, diminish and ridicule any and all players, teams, events, awards etc... always in an effort to make their daughter look good or better than she is. When their daughter doesn't make the "A" Club Team it is always due to politics or something. We have all read it on here and had to listen to it on the sidelines and around town, they blame it on "the friends & family network" they blame it on the town they are from or are not from, the blame the coach, they blame the club director, they claim others pay for private lessons, you name it they blame it. As their children move into middle school and the early the and HS years it becomes even worse. When they start to tryout for select teams you hear the same complaints from the same parents. When their daughter doesn't make a team or is not brought up to varsity there is always an excuse and usually an attack on either a player or two, a coach, a club director or another parent. Forget about it.... when the recruiting starts these parent really go off the deep end. The excuses that come when other players are being recruited over their daughter are laughable. These parents can not and will not except the fact that their daughter is not as good as they think she is. There can be 20 coaches from top college programs on the sideline watching and when their daughter doesn't get any interest (but other players do) the excuses really begin to fly. Once again they blame the club coach and or director, they will say the other girls father knows someone, they will blame the Easter Bunny when they run out of excuses. As if it is not enough to make excuse after excuse they then go on the attack with regard to other players who are having more success then their daughter. Some try to mask their attacks in a passive aggressive manner others can not help themselves and they will just spit out their negative comments. Just ask one of these parents about another player and listen to their response. The funniest thing of it all is that these parents most of who never played a competitive sport in their lives always know better than the college coaches from places like North Carolina, Maryland and Northwestern. The bitterness and jealousy always comes out with these people and they go on the attack. In addition to attacking they also like to put their spin on everything and try to level things out or make it out that their daughters "situation" is the best. They equate all D1 schools and they want to believe that being recruited by top 10 schools is the same a being recruited by schools outside the top 20. If their daughter is going DIII they will go on about the academics and try do knock DI every chance they get. When a player commits to Maryland or North Carolina they bash they player "she will never see the field" "she will major in being a summer lacrosse coach". If another player goes to Florida or Notre Dame after a year or two you will hear the haters telling you "see I told you that she was not that good they are not in the final four". It is just never ending. The jealousy and bitterness never stops. These people are constantly trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players, teams, events, etc... it is always "a joke" "a head scratcher" "political" "not fair" "she is not that good" "I don't see it" "friends and family".... Bla Bla Bla...

You name it they blame it.

I have a 2019 committed to a good not great academic school that most likely will not crack the Top 30 - 40 in the next five years. Not recruited by any of the Top 10-20 programs, No Under Armour Team, No IL Young Gun Ranking, No U19 just a decent player who loves to play.

Be happy if you have a healthy daughter who enjoys playing. Knocking others and or their accomplishments will never help your daughter.

I realize that not all of you are negative, bitter and jealous so I apologize to you for my rant. Just can't listen to the haters.

Yawn...........fell asleep half way through that😴

Yes, would have been much more productive and insightful if she had attacked a player or bashed a team or club or tried to discredit someone or something.

Guarantee the "Yawn" post was made by someone who wishes ill will upon others.

Gotta agree with Yawn. Honestly you people are pathetic. Both the parents that have kids who have made all the UA teams,Schoolgirls teams ,U19 etc and parents that have kids that have not are delusional. Honestly my kid was top 5 recruit and a very good player but if you don't think politics and luck did not have something to do with her accolades you are just naïve. Have no idea why but she was on all the to schools radar early and I have to believe all that becomes a bit of a snowball and gives these players an advantage in making the so called "all-star " teams. That said there were 5-6 other players on her travel team that received no where close to the attention that could have but did not. On the opposite side you have parents of kids that have no interest from top programs, never make any all star team while trying out for them all, are role players for their travel team but believe everyone is wrong about their kid are just as delusional. By the way many of these kids who get recruited by the to programs will never see the field in any meaningful way , its just a fact.

Just curious who is actually playing then...walk ons? Sad how you just put down your daughter.

Been down this road a million times and nobody seems to want to listen to reality. there are 8-12 recruits for every grade, if 3-4 pan out the program is thrilled. not a hater, not bitter and not an opinion, it's simple math 13-15 kids play 95% of the meaningful minutes on top 30-40 schools, that leaves another 15-20 who don't play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Been down this road a million times and nobody seems to want to listen to reality. there are 8-12 recruits for every grade, if 3-4 pan out the program is thrilled. not a hater, not bitter and not an opinion, it's simple math 13-15 kids play 95% of the meaningful minutes on top 30-40 schools, that leaves another 15-20 who don't play

The numbers are closer to 8 - 10 kids in an average recruiting class at most of the top programs. 17 - 19 players see action in the majority of games. Sometimes more play sometimes less. None of this is really relavent to the discussion .

The question is: why is it brought up? It is always brought up to knock players who are getting recognition. It is always brought up to try to render any accomplishment as meaningless. It is always brought up to try and level the plaing field. It is always brought up to say: none of your accolades or accomplishments matter , the majority of you will not see the field in college. They are implying that none of it is important and that their daughter is just as good and just as deserving.

As another poster pointed out it is done to diminish the accomplishments of others while trying to elevat their daughter.

If that is not your intent then why do you focus on the negative. Just as easy to point out the fact that many of the girls are going to go on to have great college careers?

Below is a quote from the Boys 2028 thread (3rd Grade).

"Unless you are a Massapequa kid.. True Blue is not the place for you, unless you are a stud, then it don't matter.."

The message is clear, "it's all politics"....

Feel bad for people like this, long road ahead with that attitude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Been down this road a million times and nobody seems to want to listen to reality. there are 8-12 recruits for every grade, if 3-4 pan out the program is thrilled. not a hater, not bitter and not an opinion, it's simple math 13-15 kids play 95% of the meaningful minutes on top 30-40 schools, that leaves another 15-20 who don't play

The numbers are closer to 8 - 10 kids in an average recruiting class at most of the top programs. 17 - 19 players see action in the majority of games. Sometimes more play sometimes less. None of this is really relavent to the discussion .

The question is: why is it brought up? It is always brought up to knock players who are getting recognition. It is always brought up to try to render any accomplishment as meaningless. It is always brought up to try and level the plaing field. It is always brought up to say: none of your accolades or accomplishments matter , the majority of you will not see the field in college. They are implying that none of it is important and that their daughter is just as good and just as deserving.

As another poster pointed out it is done to diminish the accomplishments of others while trying to elevat their daughter.

If that is not your intent then why do you focus on the negative. Just as easy to point out the fact that many of the girls are going to go on to have great college careers?

Sounds like a reality to check for some clueless parents to me, but I guess it's true when they say you can't fix notIntelligent

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Rising junior and senior rankings are out. Did they get them right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising junior and senior rankings are out. Did they get them right?

Saw them. Seem pretty accurate with obvious dark horses overlooked or politics playing a role. What were your thoughts?

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising junior and senior rankings are out. Did they get them right?

Saw them. Seem pretty accurate with obvious dark horses overlooked or politics playing a role. What were your thoughts?

Most if not all of the players that I have watched many times and think are the best players in the 2020 class are on the list. BTW all of the 2020's who were selected to the US U19 National Team were also recognized by Inside Lacrosse.

Congratulations to all the players who were recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising junior and senior rankings are out. Did they get them right?

Saw them. Seem pretty accurate with obvious dark horses overlooked or politics playing a role. What were your thoughts?

Most if not all of the players that I have watched many times and think are the best players in the 2020 class are on the list. BTW all of the 2020's who were selected to the US U19 National Team were also recognized by Inside Lacrosse.

Congratulations to all the players who were recognized.

I think for the most part they got it right. Some girls on the watch list could have been ranked higher. Congrats to all!

Interesting Link

not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

No, not even close to a fact. The vast majority of players on the Top 40 - 50 lists do very well in college. Haters gonna hate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

No, not even close to a fact. The vast majority of players on the Top 40 - 50 lists do very well in college. Haters gonna hate.[/quote

Check back in a few years and let us know if your daughter is still on the team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

No, not even close to a fact. The vast majority of players on the Top 40 - 50 lists do very well in college. Haters gonna hate.[/quote

Check back in a few years and let us know if your daughter is still on the team

Oh so bitter. Another myth that is put forth on this site about "the percentage of girls that stop playing" . Yes, I am sure that many girls do decide to give it up but very few of the top players stop playing. Track the players that were ranked in the top 30 - 40 even 50 over the past several years. The large majority of them do very well in college and most are at the top programs. Do some players who are not recognized go on to have very successful college careers? Yes.
Congrats to all the young women who compete, I wish them all well. Just can't stand the haters who always try to diminish any player who gets more notoriety than their daughter.

You fools really think that you know better than the top colleges and the people at Inside Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... Laughable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

Here are the actual facts from the 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls Top 30 Rankings from Inside Lacrosse. I am very familiar with this class, they are currently seniors in college.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
3 to Notre Dame
3 to Syracuse
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school)

All are still playing and all but 1 or 2 are major contributors for their respective teams starting and or playing in every game. There are All Americans and All conference players as well as team captains and Tewaaraton Watch List players. Oh and also The Tewaaraton Award Winner .

27 of the 30 players were also 2015 Under Armour All Americans and I believe 10 of the 30 were also selected to the U19 National Team.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

Here are the actual facts from the 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls Top 30 Rankings from Inside Lacrosse. I am very familiar with this class, they are currently seniors in college.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
3 to Notre Dame
3 to Syracuse
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school)

All are still playing and all but 1 or 2 are major contributors for their respective teams starting and or playing in every game. There are All Americans and All conference players as well as team captains and Tewaaraton Watch List players. Oh and also The Tewaaraton Award Winner .

27 of the 30 players were also 2015 Under Armour All Americans and I believe 10 of the 30 were also selected to the U19 National Team.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Great job with those facts! For the most part the same girls who get on the Inside Lacrosse top recruit lists are the same girls who make UA teams and US Lacrosse schoolgirls and national teams. This is not a coincidence. Might some worthy girls get left out the back? Maybe, but most everyone of these girls selected go on to kick butt. Are there politics? Always some. But most likely the bellyaching is coming from completely delusional parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke. You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team, got cut from any school girl team, got cut before the final round of UA tryouts. Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

Here are the actual facts from the 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls Top 30 Rankings from Inside Lacrosse. I am very familiar with this class, they are currently seniors in college.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
3 to Notre Dame
3 to Syracuse
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school)

All are still playing and all but 1 or 2 are major contributors for their respective teams starting and or playing in every game. There are All Americans and All conference players as well as team captains and Tewaaraton Watch List players. Oh and also The Tewaaraton Award Winner .

27 of the 30 players were also 2015 Under Armour All Americans and I believe 10 of the 30 were also selected to the U19 National Team.

They don't stop playing & they do not disappear. They go on to play & excel @ the best schools & programs.

Those are the facts.

Great job with those facts! For the most part the same girls who get on the Inside Lacrosse top recruit lists are the same girls who make UA teams and US Lacrosse schoolgirls and national teams. This is not a coincidence. Might some worthy girls get left out the back? Maybe, but most everyone of these girls selected go on to kick butt. Are there politics? Always some. But most likely the bellyaching is coming from completely delusional parents.

Another interesting fact is that the only two LI girls to win the Teewaraton are Top Guns players, although most watch list girls are YJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

Here are the actual facts from the 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls Top 30 Rankings from Inside Lacrosse. I am very familiar with this class, they are currently seniors in college.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
3 to Notre Dame
3 to Syracuse
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school)

All are still playing and all but 1 or 2 are major contributors for their respective teams starting and or playing in every game. There are All Americans and All conference players as well as team captains and Tewaaraton Watch List players. Oh and also The Tewaaraton Award Winner .

27 of the 30 players were also 2015 Under Armour All Americans and I believe 10 of the 30 were also selected to the U19 National Team.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Great job with those facts! For the most part the same girls who get on the Inside Lacrosse top recruit lists are the same girls who make UA teams and US Lacrosse schoolgirls and national teams. This is not a coincidence. Might some worthy girls get left out the back? Maybe, but most everyone of these girls selected go on to kick butt. Are there politics? Always some. But most likely the bellyaching is coming from completely delusional parents.

Another interesting fact is that the only two LI girls to win the Teewaraton are Top Guns players, although most watch list girls are YJ

Shannon Smith was a yellow jacket, top guns did not exist yet.

My daughter was ranked and I can proudly say that none of it had to do with politics. It was earned from her own hard work, drive and determination. Some people want to downplay that and be negative but I know the truth. Congratulation to all the girls and their hard work! Yes I agree that some girls may have been overlooked but they have a chance to prove themselves in college. The cream always rises to the top!

What parents of young HS players should be focusing on is the incredible opportunity this sport offers our daughters.

I can't remember, how many top 10 HS recruits, UA/NIKE, etc. were on the JMU championship team last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter was ranked and I can proudly say that none of it had to do with politics. It was earned from her own hard work, drive and determination. Some people want to downplay that and be negative but I know the truth. Congratulation to all the girls and their hard work! Yes I agree that some girls may have been overlooked but they have a chance to prove themselves in college. The cream always rises to the top!

Could you be a bigger lost. Guarantee you my kid is higher on the list than yours but my kid knows there are many other kids who could easily be on the list while many on the list could just as easily be off. Get over yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't remember, how many top 10 HS recruits, UA/NIKE, etc. were on the JMU championship team last year?

What is your point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't remember, how many top 10 HS recruits, UA/NIKE, etc. were on the JMU championship team last year?

What is your point?

I think his point is your name doesn’t have to be on any list to be able to attend a good school and play at a top level program. Hard work and dedication will.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't remember, how many top 10 HS recruits, UA/NIKE, etc. were on the JMU championship team last year?

What is your point?

Once again this is a swipe by a bitter person trying to diminish the players who get ranked, make Under Armour, go to the top programs etc... They will go to great lengths to try and elevate their daughter all the while trying to tear down others who have received more recognition.

JMU had a great year and they have always been a good program that plays a very competitive schedule but they are not consistently in the Top 20. Maybe that will change going forward.

Nobody on any list for anything since the beginning of time has admitted it was because of politics. Nobody left off a list since the beginning of time has ever said it was because I didn't deserve it. My point is just move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't remember, how many top 10 HS recruits, UA/NIKE, etc. were on the JMU championship team last year?

What is your point?

It's a team game...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter was ranked and I can proudly say that none of it had to do with politics. It was earned from her own hard work, drive and determination. Some people want to downplay that and be negative but I know the truth. Congratulation to all the girls and their hard work! Yes I agree that some girls may have been overlooked but they have a chance to prove themselves in college. The cream always rises to the top!

Could you be a bigger lost. Guarantee you my kid is higher on the list than yours but my kid knows there are many other kids who could easily be on the list while many on the list could just as easily be off. Get over yourself.

I am so proud of my child and it was well deserved and you can't take that away! Sorry. It means a lot to be ranked no matter how hard you try to diminish it that's the fact!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter was ranked and I can proudly say that none of it had to do with politics. It was earned from her own hard work, drive and determination. Some people want to downplay that and be negative but I know the truth. Congratulation to all the girls and their hard work! Yes I agree that some girls may have been overlooked but they have a chance to prove themselves in college. The cream always rises to the top!

Could you be a bigger lost. Guarantee you my kid is higher on the list than yours but my kid knows there are many other kids who could easily be on the list while many on the list could just as easily be off. Get over yourself.

I am so proud of my child and it was well deserved and you can't take that away! Sorry. It means a lot to be ranked no matter how hard you try to diminish it that's the fact!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't remember, how many top 10 HS recruits, UA/NIKE, etc. were on the JMU championship team last year?

What is your point?

It's a team game...

Rankings have nothing to do with team ...its individual achievement being recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody on any list for anything since the beginning of time has admitted it was because of politics. Nobody left off a list since the beginning of time has ever said it was because I didn't deserve it. My point is just move on.

We can only move on until the next ranking, or list, or team or next big time commit comes out. Because at that time one of the haters will come on here with a bitter negative post. Happens every time .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter was ranked and I can proudly say that none of it had to do with politics. It was earned from her own hard work, drive and determination. Some people want to downplay that and be negative but I know the truth. Congratulation to all the girls and their hard work! Yes I agree that some girls may have been overlooked but they have a chance to prove themselves in college. The cream always rises to the top!

Could you be a bigger lost. Guarantee you my kid is higher on the list than yours but my kid knows there are many other kids who could easily be on the list while many on the list could just as easily be off. Get over yourself.

I am so proud of my child and it was well deserved and you can't take that away! Sorry. It means a lot to be ranked no matter how hard you try to diminish it that's the fact!!

I am more proud of my kid because I know she is ranked higher than your kid and I guarantee she got a bigger scholorship than yours . Is what it is .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am more proud of my kid because I know she is ranked higher than your kid and I guarantee she got a bigger scholorship than yours . Is what it is .

Got to love the NY parents. I forgot how much fun it is to come on your forums and read your chest poundings. I sure hope your daughter isn’t a gem like yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]not accurate at all most got write ups at committed academy one girl on the list didn't even play summer ball so not sure where they would have seen her? list will always be inaccurate. truly doesn't matter once they get to college there are many players that have never been ranked tearing it up in college. its great for the scrapbook though and before you all jump down my throat, my kid is on the watchlist. I just don't care that much. I don't need a list to know my daughters capabilities. but the wife did post it on her fb

You cared enough to come on this site and post about it. Just to try and make the point that the list are always inaccurate (therefore the players who were recognized are not that good) and player rankings really do not mean anything. As always, when players are recognized jealous bitter posts
appear every time. Even posts like yours that try to come across as being above it all. At the end of the day your post was like all the negative post, it was an attempt to diminish the players that were recognized.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized. Hope all of the players and their parents are proud

Honestly my kid is on the list and being her dad I am completely biased as to her ability but I will say these lists are a joke .You have kids on the list who don’t start for their high school team , dont start for their travel team , got cut from any school girl team , got cut before the final round of UA tryouts . Is what it is but if your on the list or not don’t take it too serious .

That's the truth, but let these delusional parents keep pounding their chests....until their daughters disappear in college, which is what happens to the majority of those on these "lists" FACT

Here are the actual facts from the 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls Top 30 Rankings from Inside Lacrosse. I am very familiar with this class, they are currently seniors in college.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
3 to Notre Dame
3 to Syracuse
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school)

All are still playing and all but 1 or 2 are major contributors for their respective teams starting and or playing in every game. There are All Americans and All conference players as well as team captains and Tewaaraton Watch List players. Oh and also The Tewaaraton Award Winner .

27 of the 30 players were also 2015 Under Armour All Americans and I believe 10 of the 30 were also selected to the U19 National Team.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Love it...! "All are still playing" and kicking butt I will add.

Doesn't exactly jibe with the narrative that some would like us to believe.

Just curious , at what point do the haters stop with their BS?

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Here we go again... more of the same BS. No facts just a bunch of S#!% with nothing to back it up.

If you could not find The Young Gun Senior Girls list it is because your did not look.

There is no Inside Lacrosse Top 30 Incoming Freshmen list for 2015. The Freshmen list was Top 50 that year with an additional 30 players on the Watch List.

Here are Some Facts:

Of the 30 Young Gun Seniors (from the HS class of 15') 19 were also listed in the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

10 of the 11 players that dropped out of the Top 30 as freshmen were still listed on the freshmen list just not in the Top 30. One player was no longer listed.

11 players jumped into the Top 30. Eight of those 11 players start and or play every game for their teams and would be considered major contributors with some receiving post season honors.

Here we go again.... The original 30 Young Gun Seniors plus the 11 players who moved into the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

6 to UNC
6 to Maryland
5 to Syracuse
4 to Notre Dame
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to USC
1 to Loyola
1 to Penn
1 to UVA
1 to PSU
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school) Also Was not on the incoming freshmen list.

That list above gives you 40 of the most highly regarded players coming out of HS into their freshmen year (41 including the player who went to Liberty and then transferred and was not listed on the Incoming Freshmen List).

37 of the 40 were also 2015 Under Armour All-Americans.

12 made the US U19 National Team.

At least 35 of the 40 Are major contributors to their teams and are obviously still playing.

Maybe a few have stopped playing which is a far cry from the nonsense spewed on this site.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Here is another fact... Haters gonna hate... Players gonna play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Here we go again... more of the same BS. No facts just a bunch of S#!% with nothing to back it up.

If you could not find The Young Gun Senior Girls list it is because your did not look.

There is no Inside Lacrosse Top 30 Incoming Freshmen list for 2015. The Freshmen list was Top 50 that year with an additional 30 players on the Watch List.

Here are Some Facts:

Of the 30 Young Gun Seniors (from the HS class of 15') 19 were also listed in the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

10 of the 11 players that dropped out of the Top 30 as freshmen were still listed on the freshmen list just not in the Top 30. One player was no longer listed.

11 players jumped into the Top 30. Eight of those 11 players start and or play every game for their teams and would be considered major contributors with some receiving post season honors.

Here we go again.... The original 30 Young Gun Seniors plus the 11 players who moved into the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

6 to UNC
6 to Maryland
5 to Syracuse
4 to Notre Dame
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to USC
1 to Loyola
1 to Penn
1 to UVA
1 to PSU
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school) Also Was not on the incoming freshmen list.

That list above gives you 40 of the most highly regarded players coming out of HS into their freshmen year (41 including the player who went to Liberty and then transferred and was not listed on the Incoming Freshmen List).

37 of the 40 were also 2015 Under Armour All-Americans.

12 made the US U19 National Team.

At least 35 of the 40 Are major contributors to their teams and are obviously still playing.

Maybe a few have stopped playing which is a far cry from the nonsense spewed on this site.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Here is another fact... Haters gonna hate... Players gonna play.

Because you seem like such a hammerhead I will respond. You want to state facts but you use 35 of 40 are major contributors , like that's a fact. Major contributors by whose definition. You apparently think just getting into the majority of the games makes a player a major contributor, then here is an actual fact for you, those players on the list in the top 30 make up less than 1.3 % of the major contributors in women"s NCAA lacrosse. Have yet to see anyone say the top players do not continue to play for the most part ,what they do say is many girls find other interests and stop playing to pursue those interests but you have to make everything about you and your top 30 kid. The fact that over 30% of the so called top 30 rising seniors dropped out of the top 30 prior to ever playing a college game should tell you these lists are just nonsense. Both my girls have been on those lists and honestly their college coaches never cared , here is another fact for you , you will always look like a lost when trying to justify your kid being in the top 30 simply put because you must be so desperate to [ChillLaxin] its true .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Here we go again... more of the same BS. No facts just a bunch of S#!% with nothing to back it up.

If you could not find The Young Gun Senior Girls list it is because your did not look.

There is no Inside Lacrosse Top 30 Incoming Freshmen list for 2015. The Freshmen list was Top 50 that year with an additional 30 players on the Watch List.

Here are Some Facts:

Of the 30 Young Gun Seniors (from the HS class of 15') 19 were also listed in the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

10 of the 11 players that dropped out of the Top 30 as freshmen were still listed on the freshmen list just not in the Top 30. One player was no longer listed.

11 players jumped into the Top 30. Eight of those 11 players start and or play every game for their teams and would be considered major contributors with some receiving post season honors.

Here we go again.... The original 30 Young Gun Seniors plus the 11 players who moved into the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

6 to UNC
6 to Maryland
5 to Syracuse
4 to Notre Dame
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to USC
1 to Loyola
1 to Penn
1 to UVA
1 to PSU
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school) Also Was not on the incoming freshmen list.

That list above gives you 40 of the most highly regarded players coming out of HS into their freshmen year (41 including the player who went to Liberty and then transferred and was not listed on the Incoming Freshmen List).

37 of the 40 were also 2015 Under Armour All-Americans.

12 made the US U19 National Team.

At least 35 of the 40 Are major contributors to their teams and are obviously still playing.

Maybe a few have stopped playing which is a far cry from the nonsense spewed on this site.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Here is another fact... Haters gonna hate... Players gonna play.

Because you seem like such a hammerhead I will respond. You want to state facts but you use 35 of 40 are major contributors , like that's a fact. Major contributors by whose definition. You apparently think just getting into the majority of the games makes a player a major contributor, then here is an actual fact for you, those players on the list in the top 30 make up less than 1.3 % of the major contributors in women"s NCAA lacrosse. Have yet to see anyone say the top players do not continue to play for the most part ,what they do say is many girls find other interests and stop playing to pursue those interests but you have to make everything about you and your top 30 kid. The fact that over 30% of the so called top 30 rising seniors dropped out of the top 30 prior to ever playing a college game should tell you these lists are just nonsense. Both my girls have been on those lists and honestly their college coaches never cared , here is another fact for you , you will always look like a lost when trying to justify your kid being in the top 30 simply put because you must be so desperate to [ChillLaxin] its true .

Not the person that you are responding to but will chime in. I have read on this site many times over the years that the players on the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour , the ones who get recruited by the top programs etc... It's all political ,they Will Not do well in college, will never see the field, will major in basket weaving, will disappear , will quit playing and a lot of othe negative things all trying to diminish the top players.

I would say any player starting in every game is a major contributor to their team . Especially since the players in question are competing for the top programs in the country.

You sound very bitter. For years I have read the bitter comments . Now someone points out that the majority of the top players in HS ( as defined by top college coaches, Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse etc..) do actually go on to do well in college and you go on the attack. Why?

Go back and check, every time accolades come out or "All Star" Teams are selected some bitter a€£ h@/% comes on and starts attacking the players. Never have I seen someone come on and tout . The argument is always started by the jealous parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Here we go again... more of the same BS. No facts just a bunch of S#!% with nothing to back it up.

If you could not find The Young Gun Senior Girls list it is because your did not look.

There is no Inside Lacrosse Top 30 Incoming Freshmen list for 2015. The Freshmen list was Top 50 that year with an additional 30 players on the Watch List.

Here are Some Facts:

Of the 30 Young Gun Seniors (from the HS class of 15') 19 were also listed in the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

10 of the 11 players that dropped out of the Top 30 as freshmen were still listed on the freshmen list just not in the Top 30. One player was no longer listed.

11 players jumped into the Top 30. Eight of those 11 players start and or play every game for their teams and would be considered major contributors with some receiving post season honors.

Here we go again.... The original 30 Young Gun Seniors plus the 11 players who moved into the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

6 to UNC
6 to Maryland
5 to Syracuse
4 to Notre Dame
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to USC
1 to Loyola
1 to Penn
1 to UVA

1 to PSU
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school) Also Was not on the incoming freshmen list.

That list above gives you 40 of the most highly regarded players coming out of HS into their freshmen year (41 including the player who went to Liberty and then transferred and was not listed on the Incoming Freshmen List).

37 of the 40 were also 2015 Under Armour All-Americans.

12 made the US U19 National Team.

At least 35 of the 40 Are major contributors to their teams and are obviously still playing.

Maybe a few have stopped playing which is a far cry from the nonsense spewed on this site.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Here is another fact... Haters gonna hate... Players gonna play.

you have WAY TOO MUCH time on your hands

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Here we go again... more of the same BS. No facts just a bunch of S#!% with nothing to back it up.

If you could not find The Young Gun Senior Girls list it is because your did not look.

There is no Inside Lacrosse Top 30 Incoming Freshmen list for 2015. The Freshmen list was Top 50
that year with an additional 30 players on the Watch List.

Here are Some Facts:

Of the 30 Young Gun Seniors (from the HS class of 15') 19 were also listed in the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

10 of the 11 players that dropped out of the Top 30 as freshmen were still listed on the freshmen list just not in the Top 30. One player was no longer listed.

11 players jumped into the Top 30. Eight of those 11 players start and or play every game for their teams and would be considered major contributors with some receiving post season honors.

Here we go again.... The original 30 Young Gun Seniors plus the 11 players who moved into the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

6 to UNC
6 to Maryland
5 to Syracuse
4 to Notre Dame
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to USC
1 to Loyola
1 to Penn
1 to UVA
1 to PSU
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school) Also Was not on the incoming freshmen list.

That list above gives you 40 of the most highly regarded players coming out of HS into their freshmen year (41 including the player who went to Liberty and then transferred and was not listed on the Incoming Freshmen List).

37 of the 40 were also 2015 Under Armour All-Americans.

12 made the US U19 National Team.

At least 35 of the 40 Are major contributors to their teams and are obviously still playing.

Maybe a few have stopped playing which is a far cry from the nonsense spewed on this site.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Here is another fact... Haters gonna hate... Players gonna play.

Because you seem like such a hammerhead I will respond. You want to state facts but you use 35 of 40 are major contributors , like that's a fact. Major contributors by whose definition. You apparently think just getting into the majority of the games makes a player a major contributor, then here is an actual fact for you, those players on the list in the top 30 make up less than 1.3 % of the major contributors in women"s NCAA lacrosse. Have yet to see anyone say the top players do not continue to play for the most part ,what they do say is many girls find other interests and stop playing to pursue those interests but you have to make everything about you and your top 30 kid. The fact that over 30% of the so called top 30 rising seniors dropped out of the top 30 prior to ever playing a college game should tell you these lists are just nonsense. Both my girls have been on those lists and honestly their college coaches never cared , here is another fact for you , you will always look like a lost when trying to justify your kid being in the top 30 simply put because you must be so desperate to [ChillLaxin] its true .

Not the person that you are responding to but will chime in. I have read on this site many times over the years that the players on the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour , the ones who get recruited by the top programs etc... It's all political ,they Will Not do well in college, will never see the field, will major in basket weaving, will disappear , will quit playing and a lot of othe negative things all trying to diminish the top players.

I would say any player starting in every game is a major contributor to their team . Especially since the players in question are competing for the top programs in the country.

You sound very bitter. For years I have read the bitter comments . Now someone points out that the majority of the top players in HS ( as defined by top college coaches, Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse etc..) do actually go on to do well in college and you go on the attack. Why?

Go back and check, every time accolades come out or "All Star" Teams are selected some bitter a€£ h@/% comes on and starts attacking the players. Never have I seen someone come on and tout . The argument is always started by the jealous parent.

You are the exact reason that I must seem bitter because dealing with dense people is annoying. First whether you believe it or not my two kids were essentially on every list prior o entering college so I am not bitter.
Please go back and copy for us the posters saying these top thirty type kids will disappear in college and quit playing , you can’t because it just does not happen .
As far as majors , the kid that is a major contributor on the top teams that has a difficult major is the exception not the rule .
Lastly your point about what you consider a major contributor is comical and shows you are ignorant of college lacrosse.If we use your definition I would say probably about 6 kids from the top 30 list wold be considered major contributors .
If you think politics have nothing to do with these lists you are just blind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Here we go again... more of the same BS. No facts just a bunch of S#!% with nothing to back it up.

If you could not find The Young Gun Senior Girls list it is because your did not look.

There is no Inside Lacrosse Top 30 Incoming Freshmen list for 2015. The Freshmen list was Top 50 that year with an additional 30 players on the Watch List.

Here are Some Facts:

Of the 30 Young Gun Seniors (from the HS class of 15') 19 were also listed in the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

10 of the 11 players that dropped out of the Top 30 as freshmen were still listed on the freshmen list just not in the Top 30. One player was no longer listed.

11 players jumped into the Top 30. Eight of those 11 players start and or play every game for their teams and would be considered major contributors with some receiving post season honors.

Here we go again.... The original 30 Young Gun Seniors plus the 11 players who moved into the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

6 to UNC
6 to Maryland
5 to Syracuse
4 to Notre Dame
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to USC
1 to Loyola
1 to Penn
1 to UVA
1 to PSU
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school) Also Was not on the incoming freshmen list.

That list above gives you 40 of the most highly regarded players coming out of HS into their freshmen year (41 including the player who went to Liberty and then transferred and was not listed on the Incoming Freshmen List).

37 of the 40 were also 2015 Under Armour All-Americans.

12 made the US U19 National Team.

At least 35 of the 40 Are major contributors to their teams and are obviously still playing.

Maybe a few have stopped playing which is a far cry from the nonsense spewed on this site.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Here is another fact... Haters gonna hate... Players gonna play.

Because you seem like such a hammerhead I will respond. You want to state facts but you use 35 of 40 are major contributors , like that's a fact. Major contributors by whose definition. You apparently think just getting into the majority of the games makes a player a major contributor, then here is an actual fact for you, those players on the list in the top 30 make up less than 1.3 % of the major contributors in women"s NCAA lacrosse. Have yet to see anyone say the top players do not continue to play for the most part ,what they do say is many girls find other interests and stop playing to pursue those interests but you have to make everything about you and your top 30 kid. The fact that over 30% of the so called top 30 rising seniors dropped out of the top 30 prior to ever playing a college game should tell you these lists are just nonsense. Both my girls have been on those lists and honestly their college coaches never cared , here is another fact for you , you will always look like a lost when trying to justify your kid being in the top 30 simply put because you must be so desperate to [ChillLaxin] its true .

Not the person that you are responding to but will chime in. I have read on this site many times over the years that the players on the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour , the ones who get recruited by the top programs etc... It's all political ,they Will Not do well in college, will never see the field, will major in basket weaving, will disappear , will quit playing and a lot of othe negative things all trying to diminish the top players.

I would say any player starting in every game is a major contributor to their team . Especially since the players in question are competing for the top programs in the country.

You sound very bitter. For years I have read the bitter comments . Now someone points out that the majority of the top players in HS ( as defined by top college coaches, Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse etc..) do actually go on to do well in college and you go on the attack. Why?

Go back and check, every time accolades come out or "All Star" Teams are selected some bitter a€£ h@/% comes on and starts attacking the players. Never have I seen someone come on and tout . The argument is always started by the jealous parent.

Will chime in too. Yes you do see pretty much the same selection of girls to all the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour All American select teams, US Lacrosse national teams. And yes these girls(and boys) are the who’s who of lacrosse in high school and go on to become The who’s Who of lacrosse in college. You think that all the many,many different selection committees and all the college coaches who will identify players as worthy over and over, are all wrong? Sorry your kid got overlooked, but putting down other deserving players makes you look very bitter and childish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could not find that list for the 2015 class but did find the 2015 class top 30 incoming freshmen .Being equally familiar I would say many have not come even close to living up to expectations while several have exceeded expectations. Some have now been passed over by younger players and several have been set back by injuries.

Here we go again... more of the same BS. No facts just a bunch of S#!% with nothing to back it up.

If you could not find The Young Gun Senior Girls list it is because your did not look.

There is no Inside Lacrosse Top 30 Incoming Freshmen list for 2015. The Freshmen list was Top 50
that year with an additional 30 players on the Watch List.

Here are Some Facts:

Of the 30 Young Gun Seniors (from the HS class of 15') 19 were also listed in the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

10 of the 11 players that dropped out of the Top 30 as freshmen were still listed on the freshmen list just not in the Top 30. One player was no longer listed.

11 players jumped into the Top 30. Eight of those 11 players start and or play every game for their teams and would be considered major contributors with some receiving post season honors.

Here we go again.... The original 30 Young Gun Seniors plus the 11 players who moved into the Top 30 as Incoming Freshmen.

6 to UNC
6 to Maryland
5 to Syracuse
4 to Notre Dame
2 to Boston College
2 to Florida
2 to Princeton
2 to Northwestern
2 to Duke
2 to Georgetown
1 to Stanford
1 to Hopkins
1 to USC
1 to Loyola
1 to Penn
1 to UVA
1 to PSU
1 to Liberty (transferred to another school) Also Was not on the incoming freshmen list.

That list above gives you 40 of the most highly regarded players coming out of HS into their freshmen year (41 including the player who went to Liberty and then transferred and was not listed on the Incoming Freshmen List).

37 of the 40 were also 2015 Under Armour All-Americans.

12 made the US U19 National Team.

At least 35 of the 40 Are major contributors to their teams and are obviously still playing.

Maybe a few have stopped playing which is a far cry from the nonsense spewed on this site.

They do not stop playing and they do not disappear. They go on to play and excel ant the best schools and programs.

Those are the facts.

Here is another fact... Haters gonna hate... Players gonna play.

Because you seem like such a hammerhead I will respond. You want to state facts but you use 35 of 40 are major contributors , like that's a fact. Major contributors by whose definition. You apparently think just getting into the majority of the games makes a player a major contributor, then here is an actual fact for you, those players on the list in the top 30 make up less than 1.3 % of the major contributors in women"s NCAA lacrosse. Have yet to see anyone say the top players do not continue to play for the most part ,what they do say is many girls find other interests and stop playing to pursue those interests but you have to make everything about you and your top 30 kid. The fact that over 30% of the so called top 30 rising seniors dropped out of the top 30 prior to ever playing a college game should tell you these lists are just nonsense. Both my girls have been on those lists and honestly their college coaches never cared , here is another fact for you , you will always look like a lost when trying to justify your kid being in the top 30 simply put because you must be so desperate to [ChillLaxin] its true .

Not the person that you are responding to but will chime in. I have read on this site many times over the years that the players on the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour , the ones who get recruited by the top programs etc... It's all political ,they Will Not do well in college, will never see the field, will major in basket weaving, will disappear , will quit playing and a lot of othe negative things all trying to diminish the top players.

I would say any player starting in every game is a major contributor to their team . Especially since the players in question are competing for the top programs in the country.

You sound very bitter. For years I have read the bitter comments . Now someone points out that the majority of the top players in HS ( as defined by top college coaches, Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse etc..) do actually go on to do well in college and you go on the attack. Why?

Go back and check, every time accolades come out or "All Star" Teams are selected some bitter a€£ h@/% comes on and starts attacking the players. Never have I seen someone come on and tout . The argument is always started by the jealous parent.

You are the exact reason that I must seem bitter because dealing with dense people is annoying. First whether you believe it or not my two kids were essentially on every list prior o entering college so I am not bitter.
Please go back and copy for us the posters saying these top thirty type kids will disappear in college and quit playing , you can’t because it just does not happen .
As far as majors , the kid that is a major contributor on the top teams that has a difficult major is the exception not the rule .
Lastly your point about what you consider a major contributor is comical and shows you are ignorant of college lacrosse.If we use your definition I would say probably about 6 kids from the top 30 list wold be considered major contributors .
If you think politics have nothing to do with these lists you are just blind.

There are countless posts on this site that try to diminish players, teams, coaches, lists, positions,schools, divisions, majors, parents etc...

I feel for you, it must me very difficult going through life as you. Hope that you have not passed your angry, bitter attitude on to your two Top 30 children. Try and smile today and wish someone well.

Will chime in too. Yes you do see pretty much the same selection of girls to all the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour All American select teams, US Lacrosse national teams. And yes these girls(and boys) are the who’s who of lacrosse in high school and go on to become The who’s Who of lacrosse in college. You think that all the many,many different selection committees and all the college coaches who will identify players as worthy over and over, are all wrong? Sorry your kid got overlooked, but putting down other deserving players makes you look very bitter and childish.

Again you just make nonsense up. There are many who make the Inside Lacrosse list who do not make the top US Lacrosse national teams, or UA teams. Explain exactly how none of the NCAA D1 first team AA players made the U19 in the past. How is it that 11 of the 30 players dropped off the top 30 list from one year to the next if its essentially the same selection of girls. Do you really think NW has done the best job at identifying talent the last several years , if you look at the u19 roster you would have to say yes , if you look at their results you would have to say no, I wonder if politics had anything to do with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will chime in too. Yes you do see pretty much the same selection of girls to all the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour All American select teams, US Lacrosse national teams. And yes these girls(and boys) are the who’s who of lacrosse in high school and go on to become The who’s Who of lacrosse in college. You think that all the many,many different selection committees and all the college coaches who will identify players as worthy over and over, are all wrong? Sorry your kid got overlooked, but putting down other deserving players makes you look very bitter and childish.

Again you just make nonsense up. There are many who make the Inside Lacrosse list who do not make the top US Lacrosse national teams, or UA teams. Explain exactly how none of the NCAA D1 first team AA players made the U19 in the past. How is it that 11 of the 30 players dropped off the top 30 list from one year to the next if its essentially the same selection of girls. Do you really think NW has done the best job at identifying talent the last several years , if you look at the u19 roster you would have to say yes , if you look at their results you would have to say no, I wonder if politics had anything to do with that.

Does anyone think its odd that not one girl from the 2018 YJ A team ( arguably the best team in that class) made the team. If I am not mistaken only 1 girl from the 2018 M & D top team made the team, but all those NW and Mass elite girls made it, yeah there is no politics involved

Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane .

My neighbors daughter graduated college in May. She just started a job at Microsoft starting at $125k + stock options, and moving expenses She was an average high school athlete and didn't play in college. Guess what.... she wins ladies and gentlemen. Focus on what's important people you're kid will thank you later.

For those going through the recruiting process below is a post I found from a couple of years ago that could be helpful:

"What are the grades that a kid actually needs to get into certain schools?"

- It all depends on where the coach has the player ranked on their recruiting list. The #1 recruit on the list will not have the same requirements as the # 8.

The Ivy's work off of an "academic index" there are minimum requirements for each individual. However, the average for the recruiting class is significantly higher than the minimum therefore if a priority recruit is close to the minimum the coach will take a less qualified player if they have better grades (in order to pull the class average up).

Other Highly Competitive Schools such as Duke, Georgetown, BC, ND etc... have what are known as "Slots". The coach has the ability to get a certain number of players into the school. In general, those students must have very good grades but the requirements are less than a regular student would need to get into the school. For a recruited athlete the coach would like to see 90+ avg and a minimum of 1200 on the SAT and 27 ACT. Anything less would be cause for concern. Again, the coach will have more flexibility with their top recruits.

From what I have been told, Northwestern does not have a cap on admission slots but they follow similar guideline as to who they choose to get into the school.

Remember, the coaches want the kids to be successful both on the field and in the classroom. Coaches will only take so many chances with players who do not demonstrate that they have the ability to succeed in the classroom.

As far as scholarship dollars go, don't listen to anyone. Each individual case is different. The Top recruits at fully funded schools are offered significant $$. The #1 recruit might get 75% or more, the #5 might get 25-30% and the #9 or #10 might be offered an admission slot and no athletic scholarship.
Each case is different.

If finances and cost are your biggest concern explore all options. If your daughter is a good student and a good lacrosse player you should be able to find a school that will be able to make it work financially.

If your daughter is a great student and a great lacrosse player she can write her own ticked to any school she wants. if your daughter is great student and an ok lacrosse player she can fide a school that will give her a lot of academic $$. If your daughter is a great lacrosse player and an average student she will be just fine as well, some really good schools will give plenty of athletic $$.

Ivy's do not offer athletic scholarships. (they have very generous need based aid).

Schools like Northwestens, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, BC also offer generous need based aid packages. (they also offer athletic scholarships)

To the best of my knowledge you can not combine Athletic $$ and Need Based Aid. You can however combine Academic $$ and Athletic $$.

If your daughter is being recruited and offered a spot at North Carolina, Maryland, Penn State and Syracuse but not being offered a lot of $$ you can drop down a notch and be offered a lot more $$. It works the same way on the Academic side. If your daughter has the grades to be recruited and offered a spot and an Ivy you can drop down a bit academically and pick up significant academic $$.

DII and DIII have different rules than DI.

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will chime in too. Yes you do see pretty much the same selection of girls to all the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour All American select teams, US Lacrosse national teams. And yes these girls(and boys) are the who’s who of lacrosse in high school and go on to become The who’s Who of lacrosse in college. You think that all the many,many different selection committees and all the college coaches who will identify players as worthy over and over, are all wrong? Sorry your kid got overlooked, but putting down other deserving players makes you look very bitter and childish.

Again you just make nonsense up. There are many who make the Inside Lacrosse list who do not make the top US Lacrosse national teams, or UA teams. Explain exactly how none of the NCAA D1 first team AA players made the U19 in the past. How is it that 11 of the 30 players dropped off the top 30 list from one year to the next if its essentially the same selection of girls. Do you really think NW has done the best job at identifying talent the last several years , if you look at the u19 roster you would have to say yes , if you look at their results you would have to say no, I wonder if politics had anything to do with that.

Does anyone think its odd that not one girl from the 2018 YJ A team ( arguably the best team in that class) made the team. If I am not mistaken only 1 girl from the 2018 M & D top team made the team, but all those NW and Mass elite girls made it, yeah there is no politics involved

No. Not odd at all.

How is it that JMU was able to win a National Championship with only one returning All American? None of the players who played in the championship game were All Americans in 2016 or 2015 either, how is that possible? Does anyone find that odd?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My neighbors daughter graduated college in May. She just started a job at Microsoft starting at $125k + stock options, and moving expenses She was an average high school athlete and didn't play in college. Guess what.... she wins ladies and gentlemen. Focus on what's important people you're kid will thank you later.

Good for her.

What is your point exactly? Average athletes in HS who do not play a sport in College do better than great HS athletes who do go on to play in college?

How about this, worry about your own daughter and what is important to her.

It is possible to be a good HS athlete, compete in college, get a great job and lead a successful , happy life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will chime in too. Yes you do see pretty much the same selection of girls to all the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour All American select teams, US Lacrosse national teams. And yes these girls(and boys) are the who’s who of lacrosse in high school and go on to become The who’s Who of lacrosse in college. You think that all the many,many different selection committees and all the college coaches who will identify players as worthy over and over, are all wrong? Sorry your kid got overlooked, but putting down other deserving players makes you look very bitter and childish.

Again you just make nonsense up. There are many who make the Inside Lacrosse list who do not make the top US Lacrosse national teams, or UA teams. Explain exactly how none of the NCAA D1 first team AA players made the U19 in the past. How is it that 11 of the 30 players dropped off the top 30 list from one year to the next if its essentially the same selection of girls. Do you really think NW has done the best job at identifying talent the last several years , if you look at the u19 roster you would have to say yes , if you look at their results you would have to say no, I wonder if politics had anything to do with that.

Does anyone think its odd that not one girl from the 2018 YJ A team ( arguably the best team in that class) made the team. If I am not mistaken only 1 girl from the 2018 M & D top team made the team, but all those NW and Mass elite girls made it, yeah there is no politics involved

No. Not odd at all.

How is it that JMU was able to win a National Championship with only one returning All American? None of the players who played in the championship game were All Americans in 2016 or 2015 either, how is that possible? Does anyone find that odd?

What the what? Seriously are you mental ,either you are clueless or no one knows what you are saying .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will chime in too. Yes you do see pretty much the same selection of girls to all the Inside Lacrosse lists, Under Armour All American select teams, US Lacrosse national teams. And yes these girls(and boys) are the who’s who of lacrosse in high school and go on to become The who’s Who of lacrosse in college. You think that all the many,many different selection committees and all the college coaches who will identify players as worthy over and over, are all wrong? Sorry your kid got overlooked, but putting down other deserving players makes you look very bitter and childish.

Again you just make nonsense up. There are many who make the Inside Lacrosse list who do not make the top US Lacrosse national teams, or UA teams. Explain exactly how none of the NCAA D1 first team AA players made the U19 in the past. How is it that 11 of the 30 players dropped off the top 30 list from one year to the next if its essentially the same selection of girls. Do you really think NW has done the best job at identifying talent the last several years , if you look at the u19 roster you would have to say yes , if you look at their results you would have to say no, I wonder if politics had anything to do with that.

Does anyone think its odd that not one girl from the 2018 YJ A team ( arguably the best team in that class) made the team. If I am not mistaken only 1 girl from the 2018 M & D top team made the team, but all those NW and Mass elite girls made it, yeah there is no politics involved

No. Not odd at all.

How is it that JMU was able to win a National Championship with only one returning All American? None of the players who played in the championship game were All Americans in 2016 or 2015 either, how is that possible? Does anyone find that odd?

What the what? Seriously are you mental ,either you are clueless or no one knows what you are saying .

I get it. A team can be greater than the sum of its parts. Just because the team is "arguably the best team in that class" doesn't mean that all of the players are the best in that class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Curious about " buyers remorse" as none of the kids affected by the rule change are in college yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Curious about " buyers remorse" as none of the kids affected by the rule change are in college yet.

The early recruiting started a many years ago, I believe the poster is referring to some that are now in college and are not the standouts they may have been when recruited back in 8th grade. And there still can be remorse as these coaches come watch current early commits that still play summer and school ball. Many of the current 10-12 graders have been committed for 1-4 years now. Not all finish their high school careers strong much less enter freshman D1 in the pecking order they were recruited in. Coaches are very happy the early recruiting crap shoot is over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll
bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Curious about " buyers remorse" as none of the kids affected by the rule change are in college yet.

The early recruiting started a many years ago, I believe the poster is referring to some that are now in college and are not the standouts they may have been when recruited back in 8th grade. And there still can be remorse as these coaches come watch current early commits that still play summer and school ball. Many of the current 10-12 graders have been committed for 1-4 years now. Not all finish their high school careers strong much less enter freshman D1 in the pecking order they were recruited in. Coaches are very happy the early recruiting crap shoot is over.

I do not think the UNC , MD , BC coaches are happy .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Curious about " buyers remorse" as none of the kids affected by the rule change are in college yet.

The early recruiting started a many years ago, I believe the poster is referring to some that are now in college and are not the standouts they may have been when recruited back in 8th grade. And there still can be remorse as these coaches come watch current early commits that still play summer and school ball. Many of the current 10-12 graders have been committed for 1-4 years now. Not all finish their high school careers strong much less enter freshman D1 in the pecking order they were recruited in. Coaches are very happy the early recruiting crap shoot is over.

"Coaches are very happy the early recruiting crap shoot is over. "

Really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Curious about " buyers remorse" as none of the kids affected by the rule change are in college yet.

The early recruiting started a many years ago, I believe the poster is referring to some that are now in college and are not the standouts they may have been when recruited back in 8th grade. And there still can be remorse as these coaches come watch current early commits that still play summer and school ball. Many of the current 10-12 graders have been committed for 1-4 years now. Not all finish their high school careers strong much less enter freshman D1 in the pecking order they were recruited in. Coaches are very happy the early recruiting crap shoot is over.

"Coaches are very happy the early recruiting crap shoot is over. "

Really?

Really.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

How dare you interject with truth and facts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

Great job. And to tie it back and come full circle, these top 3-4 recruits are typically the same players that make the select teams, the same players that make the select lists and the same players that receive the awards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple
math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

Couple of things that show how foolish you are .First you claim to state facts but your top 3 or 4 recruits do pan out is not based in fact it’s your opinion. Second your numbers are based on 4 age classes being represented when in actuality at many of these schools it is 5 class years as many red shirt due to various reasons so In reality you have more dropping off the team than your total numbers indicate . Fact is your numbers are just useless ,much like your opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

How dare you interject with truth and facts?

Last I heard only 11 kids at a time are actually playing... What are the other 20-25 doing? I see you only listed the 2 freshman when it fit your narrative (that's how fake news works, lies by omission is a big part of it) there are plenty of teams with 9-11 freshman on 2019 rosters and plenty of teams with less than 7 seniors. Can you guess why the freshman classes are bigger? The junior and senior classes shrink because they don't play. Bald Bear has posted here many times that roughly 50% will be on a team for all four years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if
your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

How dare you interject with truth and facts?

Seriously you both are just clueless , “ the top 3 or 4 recruits ...” is not a fact it’s your opinion . Of the final four teams this year only UNC had any of their top freshmen as starters and if you took their top 4 of that class only 1 was a starter and essentially zero freshmen top recruits started on the other final four teams .
Your other nonsense is semi factual it’s just when an uneducated poster like you see these numbers you make horribly wrong assumptions .You based your numbers on 4 class years when many of the programs you mention have a lot of players who have red shirted for various reasons so those numbers more realistically should be based on 5 class years plus you have transfers from other programs.That said the poster you are rebutting is as clueless as you ,but if you think that being ranked top 20 coming in to one of the top programs means you have a better than not chance at being a starter , think again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if
your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

How dare you interject with truth and facts?

Seriously you both are just clueless , “ the top 3 or 4 recruits ...” is not a fact it’s your opinion . Of the final four teams this year only UNC had any of their top freshmen as starters and if you took their top 4 of that class only 1 was a starter and essentially zero freshmen top recruits started on the other final four teams .
Your other nonsense is semi factual it’s just when an uneducated poster like you see these numbers you make horribly wrong assumptions .You based your numbers on 4 class years when many of the programs you mention have a lot of players who have red shirted for various reasons so those numbers more realistically should be based on 5 class years plus you have transfers from other programs.That said the poster you are rebutting is as clueless as you ,but if you think that being ranked top 20 coming in to one of the top programs means you have a better than not chance at being a starter , think again.

Why certain people so desperately want to continue to misinform on this site is beyond me.

Also, I really can't understand why so many of you want the rest of us to believe that the "top players" (as defined by top college coaches, Inside Lacrosse, Under Armour, US Lacrosse, etc... and NOT by me or anyone else on this site) coming out of high school disappear , stop playing, ride the bench and generally do not pan out in college. "jealousy"?

* I will take your points one at a time: “ the top 3 or 4 recruits ... is not a fact it’s your opinion". No it is not my opinion. It is the college coaches opinion. Every coach has a "Depth Chart" and not all players are equal. Their (the coaches) top 3 or 4 recruits usually do pan out and become starters.

* I never said anything about last years Final Four Teams. What I said was "The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team". I should have said "become starters on the team" they do not all start as freshmen but most do in fact become starters major contributors.

I also stated: "The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well." I was not insinuating that they would be superstars as freshmen.

* As for your reference to "Five" classes as opposed to "Four".... My point was to illustrate that the top players at the top programs are pretty much All still playing four years later. 50% do not quit, 50% of the "Top Players" coming out of HS do not ride the bench. I will point out the reality to you in a bit.

* I stated: "Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play."

* Here is your quote: "but if you think that being ranked top 20 coming in to one of the top programs means you have a better than not chance at being a starter , think again".

I am not sure w
Here we go again:

- Boston College: Freshmen Class of 2016 - Eight of the Nine are still on the roster. One Player transferred to Brown and is still playing and doing very very well. All 9 are still playing.

- North Carolina: Freshmen Class of 2016 - Seven of the Eight are still on the roster. One player off roster has battled injury and illness. 7 of 8 still playing.

- Maryland: Freshmen Class of 2016 - All Nine are still on the roster. There are an additional two seniors who transferred in who are AA's. One player is RS JR. ... All 9 are still playing.

- Princeton: Freshmen Class of 2016 - All Seven are still on the roster. There is an additional Senior who came over from Field Hockey and plays both. All 7 are still playing.

- Penn: Freshmen Class of 2016 - Four of the Six are still on the roster. 4 of the 6 are still playing.

Some will carry on about having too much time on my hands... Reality is this doesn't take very long at all. I picked this class because I am very familiar with them and know most of the players off the top of my head.

As for the Teams selected, I choose them because I believe Maryland, Boston College and UNC are the top 3 "Programs" over the past few years. I used Princeton and Penn because the post I was responding to mentioned The Ivy's... and Princeton and Penn are the top Ivy programs.

You can continue to knock the Top Players and the Top Programs but you can't change the facts. You can wish ill upon players and you can try to tear them down or diminish them but the reality is that the players who are identified by the top college programs as the top players generally go on to have very successful college careers.

To make it simple for you: 36 of the 39 players from the five schools listed who were freshmen in 2016 are still playing four years later.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

How dare you interject with truth and facts?

Last I heard only 11 kids at a time are actually playing... What are the other 20-25 doing? I see you only listed the 2 freshman when it fit your narrative (that's how fake news works, lies by omission is a big part of it) there are plenty of teams with 9-11 freshman on 2019 rosters and plenty of teams with less than 7 seniors. Can you guess why the freshman classes are bigger? The junior and senior classes shrink because they don't play. Bald Bear has posted here many times that roughly 50% will be on a team for all four years

What "2" freshmen are you talking about?

Go check the rosters at the most competitive programs. They do not bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The numbers are 7 - 9 "recruited" players.

Most teams play 17 or 18 players in games. In very competitive games more like 15 players see action. Off course not every player on the team becomes a starter. I will guess that you never played a team sport at a competitive level. Not everyone quits because they are not starting.

"Bald Bear has posted here many times that roughly 50% will be on a team for all four years". BB is not talking about the "Top Players" at the Division I level. Closer to 90% of the top[ players continue to play. Some stop due to injury very few quit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Waaa waaa waaa ... It's all politics, the players will not do well in college... None will be 1st Team All Americans (therefore they are not major contributors) other players will surpass them... bla Bla bla... The lists mean nothing, school girls is a joke, Under Armour is all political, u19 is political, Northwestern is terrible , how can a team be picked without yellow jackets... You people are insane . [/quot

I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class for the top 25 programs is 200+ kids, i'll bet most if not all were the best on their HS team,all state, all county, ua/Nike whatever else you want to throw in, the reality is half of them will not play any significant roll on at the college level, half the roster doesn't see the field in any meaningful way - simple math and if
your not getting money (Ivy's) or money isn't an issue they don't stay for more than two years if they're not playing - three current Ivy rosters have only 4 seniors on them.. there was plenty of buyers remorse for programs racing to get 13-14 year old kids committed before the rule change (not speculation, was told this by several coaches)

Fake News.

You are repeating the lies that are constantly posted on this site.

- "I think its been stated many times on here that its simple math - 8-12 kids per class" - Just because it has been stated many times does not make it true. -

Few if any teams bring in 12 "recruited" freshmen. The reality is 8 or 9. You may get one or two kids that get into school on their own and walk on but very few competitive teams recruit more than 8 or 9 players.

Here are the facts.

Boston College

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 28 players on the roster.

North Carolina

2016: - 8 Freshmen. 34 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 35 players on the roster.

Maryland

2016: - 9 Freshmen. 31 players on the roster.
2019: - 9 Seniors. 38 players on the roster.

Princeton

2016: - 7 Freshmen. 28 players on the roster.
2019: - 8 Seniors. 30 players on the roster.

Penn

2016: - 6 Freshmen. 27 players on the roster.
2019: - 4 Seniors. 34 players on the roster.

Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play.

The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team. Not every recruit is a top player, the number 1 recruit is usually stronger than the number 8.

The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well.

How dare you interject with truth and facts?

Seriously you both are just clueless , “ the top 3 or 4 recruits ...” is not a fact it’s your opinion . Of the final four teams this year only UNC had any of their top freshmen as starters and if you took their top 4 of that class only 1 was a starter and essentially zero freshmen top recruits started on the other final four teams .
Your other nonsense is semi factual it’s just when an uneducated poster like you see these numbers you make horribly wrong assumptions .You based your numbers on 4 class years when many of the programs you mention have a lot of players who have red shirted for various reasons so those numbers more realistically should be based on 5 class years plus you have transfers from other programs.That said the poster you are rebutting is as clueless as you ,but if you think that being ranked top 20 coming in to one of the top programs means you have a better than not chance at being a starter , think again.

Why certain people so desperately want to continue to misinform on this site is beyond me.

Also, I really can't understand why so many of you want the rest of us to believe that the "top players" (as defined by top college coaches, Inside Lacrosse, Under Armour, US Lacrosse, etc... and NOT by me or anyone else on this site) coming out of high school disappear , stop playing, ride the bench and generally do not pan out in college. "jealousy"?

* I will take your points one at a time: “ the top 3 or 4 recruits ... is not a fact it’s your opinion". No it is not my opinion. It is the college coaches opinion. Every coach has a "Depth Chart" and not all players are equal. Their (the coaches) top 3 or 4 recruits usually do pan out and become starters.

* I never said anything about last years Final Four Teams. What I said was "The top 3 or 4 recruits at the top programs do in fact "pan out" and are usually the starters on the team". I should have said "become starters on the team" they do not all start as freshmen but most do in fact become starters major contributors.

I also stated: "The top players go to the top programs, they continue to play and they do very well." I was not insinuating that they would be superstars as freshmen.

* As for your reference to "Five" classes as opposed to "Four".... My point was to illustrate that the top players at the top programs are pretty much All still playing four years later. 50% do not quit, 50% of the "Top Players" coming out of HS do not ride the bench. I will point out the reality to you in a bit.

* I stated: "Some players stop playing, some get injured, some transfer, some redshirt etc.. but the vast majority continue to play."

* Here is your quote: "but if you think that being ranked top 20 coming in to one of the top programs means you have a better than not chance at being a starter , think again".

I am not sure w
Here we go again:

- Boston College: Freshmen Class of 2016 - Eight of the Nine are still on the roster. One Player transferred to Brown and is still playing and doing very very well. All 9 are still playing.

- North Carolina: Freshmen Class of 2016 - Seven of the Eight are still on the roster. One player off roster has battled injury and illness. 7 of 8 still playing.

- Maryland: Freshmen Class of 2016 - All Nine are still on the roster. There are an additional two seniors who transferred in who are AA's. One player is RS JR. ... All 9 are still playing.

- Princeton: Freshmen Class of 2016 - All Seven are still on the roster. There is an additional Senior who came over from Field Hockey and plays both. All 7 are still playing.

- Penn: Freshmen Class of 2016 - Four of the Six are still on the roster. 4 of the 6 are still playing.

Some will carry on about having too much time on my hands... Reality is this doesn't take very long at all. I picked this class because I am very familiar with them and know most of the players off the top of my head.

As for the Teams selected, I choose them because I believe Maryland, Boston College and UNC are the top 3 "Programs" over the past few years. I used Princeton and Penn because the post I was responding to mentioned The Ivy's... and Princeton and Penn are the top Ivy programs.

You can continue to knock the Top Players and the Top Programs but you can't change the facts. You can wish ill upon players and you can try to tear them down or diminish them but the reality is that the players who are identified by the top college programs as the top players generally go on to have very successful college careers.

To make it simple for you: 36 of the 39 players from the five schools listed who were freshmen in 2016 are still playing four years later.

Don't waste your time with these people. They hate the fact that some players are recognized ahead of their daughters. They hate all the lists and All-Star teams. They hate the fact that their daughter was not offered a spot at any of the programs that you listed. They hate the fact that the majority of top players coming out of high school continue to play and do very well at the best college programs. They will continue to lie and spew their nonsense.

The facts paint a very different picture from the one painted by the haters.

36 of 39 still playing four years later.... Wow. What happened to only 50%?

How are those players doing? I assume many of them were Top 30 players as seniors in HS.

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Okay, just did a little checking.

12 of the Inside Lacrosse HS Top 30 Seniors for this class went to the Five schools listed. I did not check the watch list, just the Top 30.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
2 to BC
2 to Princeton
0 to Penn

Just about all of the 12 have done very well. I think 5 All-Americans. The Tewarraton Award Winner. I'm sure some All-Conference.

BC - 8 of the 9 players start just about every game. one player started many games. All are playing a ton.

NC - 4 of the 8 are regular starters when healthy. 2 play in most games.1 off roster injury. 1 (goalie) played 60% of the time.

MD - 7 of the 9 are regular starters. One plays in every game. One is a reserve.

Pton - 5 of the 7 would be considered starters. 1 doesn't seem to start but gets time in every game and plays a lot. 1 player was out last season due to injury.

Penn - 2 of the 6 are regular starters. 1 is a reserve player. 3 are out due to injury.

This is all before their Senior Season.

Up until this point in their careers most seam to become starters. Many others play a significant amount and only a few do not play very much and most of the time that is due to injury.

The top programs do appear to bring in between 7 and 9 recruits many of which are highly touted. These players do go on to have very good college careers and many become the top players in the game.

Sorry but I had to look for myself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Okay, just did a little checking.

12 of the Inside Lacrosse HS Top 30 Seniors for this class went to the Five schools listed. I did not check the watch list, just the Top 30.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
2 to BC
2 to Princeton
0 to Penn

Just about all of the 12 have done very well. I think 5 All-Americans. The Tewarraton Award Winner. I'm sure some All-Conference.

BC - 8 of the 9 players start just about every game. one player started many games. All are playing a ton.

NC - 4 of the 8 are regular starters when healthy. 2 play in most games.1 off roster injury. 1 (goalie) played 60% of the time.

MD - 7 of the 9 are regular starters. One plays in every game. One is a reserve.

Pton - 5 of the 7 would be considered starters. 1 doesn't seem to start but gets time in every game and plays a lot. 1 player was out last season due to injury.

Penn - 2 of the 6 are regular starters. 1 is a reserve player. 3 are out due to injury.

This is all before their Senior Season.

Up until this point in their careers most seam to become starters. Many others play a significant amount and only a few do not play very much and most of the time that is due to injury.

The top programs do appear to bring in between 7 and 9 recruits many of which are highly touted. These players do go on to have very good college careers and many become the top players in the game.

Sorry but I had to look for myself.

So in other words, betting on the same players who... make UA select teams, who make the US lax select team,
s, who garner the attention of Inside Lacrosse and make the lists and get recognized by the coaches at the top programs..... is like money in the bank. No surprise here. 99% of the parents who’s daughters don’t make the list are realistic and agree with this. A couple delusional parents just can’t accept their kids didn’t make these accolades, and feel the need to try to discredit the kids who did. Reality is there are many deserving kids who may have been left out behind, is what it is, but don’t try to tear down the deserving kids who are recognized, you sound ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Okay, just did a little checking.

12 of the Inside Lacrosse HS Top 30 Seniors for this class went to the Five schools listed. I did not check the watch list, just the Top 30.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
2 to BC
2 to Princeton
0 to Penn

Just about all of the 12 have done very well. I think 5 All-Americans. The Tewarraton Award Winner. I'm sure some All-Conference.

BC - 8 of the 9 players start just about every game. one player started many games. All are playing a ton.

NC - 4 of the 8 are regular starters when healthy. 2 play in most games.1 off roster injury. 1 (goalie) played 60% of the time.

MD - 7 of the 9 are regular starters. One plays in every game. One is a reserve.

Pton - 5 of the 7 would be considered starters. 1 doesn't seem to start but gets time in every game and plays a lot. 1 player was out last season due to injury.

Penn - 2 of the 6 are regular starters. 1 is a reserve player. 3 are out due to injury.

This is all before their Senior Season.

Up until this point in their careers most seam to become starters. Many others play a significant amount and only a few do not play very much and most of the time that is due to injury.

The top programs do appear to bring in between 7 and 9 recruits many of which are highly touted. These players do go on to have very good college careers and many become the top players in the game.

Sorry but I had to look for myself.

So in other words, betting on the same players who... make UA select teams, who make the US lax select team,
s, who garner the attention of Inside Lacrosse and make the lists and get recognized by the coaches at the top programs..... is like money in the bank. No surprise here. 99% of the parents who’s daughters don’t make the list are realistic and agree with this. A couple delusional parents just can’t accept their kids didn’t make these accolades, and feel the need to try to discredit the kids who did. Reality is there are many deserving kids who may have been left out behind, is what it is, but don’t try to tear down the deserving kids who are recognized, you sound ridiculous.

From what I have read over the years I think we are talking about many more than a few delusional parents.

Great tournament at LIU today! Some of the younger girls are looking really good!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great tournament at LIU today! Some of the younger girls are looking really good!

Who won, or went undefeated?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Okay, just did a little checking.

12 of the Inside Lacrosse HS Top 30 Seniors for this class went to the Five schools listed. I did not check the watch list, just the Top 30.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
2 to BC
2 to Princeton
0 to Penn

Just about all of the 12 have done very well. I think 5 All-Americans. The Tewarraton Award Winner. I'm sure some All-Conference.

BC - 8 of the 9 players start just about every game. one player started many games. All are playing a ton.

NC - 4 of the 8 are regular starters when healthy. 2 play in most games.1 off roster injury. 1 (goalie) played 60% of the time.

MD - 7 of the 9 are regular starters. One plays in every game. One is a reserve.

Pton - 5 of the 7 would be considered starters. 1 doesn't seem to start but gets time in every game and plays a lot. 1 player was out last season due to injury.

Penn - 2 of the 6 are regular starters. 1 is a reserve player. 3 are out due to injury.

This is all before their Senior Season.

Up until this point in their careers most seam to become starters. Many others play a significant amount and only a few do not play very much and most of the time that is due to injury.

The top programs do appear to bring in between 7 and 9 recruits many of which are highly touted. These players do go on to have very good college careers and many become the top players in the game.

Sorry but I had to look for myself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Okay, just did a little checking.

12 of the Inside Lacrosse HS Top 30 Seniors for this class went to the Five schools listed. I did not check the watch list, just the Top 30.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
2 to BC
2 to Princeton
0 to Penn

Just about all of the 12 have done very well. I think 5 All-Americans. The Tewarraton Award Winner. I'm sure some All-Conference.

BC - 8 of the 9 players start just about every game. one player started many games. All are playing a ton.

NC - 4 of the 8 are regular starters when healthy. 2 play in most games.1 off roster injury. 1 (goalie) played 60% of the time.

MD - 7 of the 9 are regular starters. One plays in every game. One is a reserve.

Pton - 5 of the 7 would be considered starters. 1 doesn't seem to start but gets time in every game and plays a lot. 1 player was out last season due to injury.

Penn - 2 of the 6 are regular starters. 1 is a reserve player. 3 are out due to injury.

This is all before their Senior Season.

Up until this point in their careers most seam to become starters. Many others play a significant amount and only a few do not play very much and most of the time that is due to injury.

The top programs do appear to bring in between 7 and 9 recruits many of which are highly touted. These players do go on to have very good college careers and many become the top players in the game.

Sorry but I had to look for myself.

This is why you get the clueless posters like myself responding to this nonsense. No one posts on these boards that the so called to 30 players stop playing the sport, its just some fake news you dopes like to resond to. Then you use your facts to back up the success of these kids problem is your facts are not facts at all.Lets take the top rated recruiting class of the 2015 from UNC .Of the 8, 4 are no longer with this graduating class, 1 is no longer playing . Last season 3-4 would have been considered starters ,5 of the 8 played in every game they were available for, none were named as IWLCA all americans. So yes they are successful as a group contributing to a very good program but as has been stated if you think coming into a top program as a highly ranked Inside Lacrosse player is some guarantee of playing time, AA status etc you are sadly mistaken. I am sure your " facts " are just as suspect with all the programs but honestly who wants to waste that much time looking up this nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Okay, just did a little checking.

12 of the Inside Lacrosse HS Top 30 Seniors for this class went to the Five schools listed. I did not check the watch list, just the Top 30.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
2 to BC
2 to Princeton
0 to Penn

Just about all of the 12 have done very well. I think 5 All-Americans. The Tewarraton Award Winner. I'm sure some All-Conference.

BC - 8 of the 9 players start just about every game. one player started many games. All are playing a ton.

NC - 4 of the 8 are regular starters when healthy. 2 play in most games.1 off roster injury. 1 (goalie) played 60% of the time.

MD - 7 of the 9 are regular starters. One plays in every game. One is a reserve.

Pton - 5 of the 7 would be considered starters. 1 doesn't seem to start but gets time in every game and plays a lot. 1 player was out last season due to injury.

Penn - 2 of the 6 are regular starters. 1 is a reserve player. 3 are out due to injury.

This is all before their Senior Season.

Up until this point in their careers most seam to become starters. Many others play a significant amount and only a few do not play very much and most of the time that is due to injury.

The top programs do appear to bring in between 7 and 9 recruits many of which are highly touted. These players do go on to have very good college careers and many become the top players in the game.

Sorry but I had to look for myself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

being on the team and playing are two different things. Did you take playing time into account?

I do not know if they checked playing time. However, I have read on here over and over that 50% of the players will not be playing by their senior year. The posts above show very accurately that at many top programs (which is where many of the top players go) the overwhelming majority of players continue to play through their senior year. 36 of 39 were still on the roster four years later. The three players not playing stopped due to injury. The poster mentioned that at Ivy schools many only have 4 seniors on the roster. It was then pointed out that All 7 players at Princeton who came in as freshmen in 2016 are still playing now as seniors. True that at Penn there are only 4 seniors on the current roster that class started out with only 6 players not 12. Big difference going from 6 to 4 then going from 12 to 4 as the other poster would have us believe.

Who expects every player to see significant playing time. It is not PAL we are talking about the top division I teams. 30 players on the roster , obviously everyone can't start or play equal time. My guess is that 0 - 3 start as freshmen, 2 or 3 work their way into the lineup over the next few years and 1 or 2 never get much playing time in many cases due to injury.

That is significantly different then what is portrayed on this site.

Okay, just did a little checking.

12 of the Inside Lacrosse HS Top 30 Seniors for this class went to the Five schools listed. I did not check the watch list, just the Top 30.

5 to UNC
4 to Maryland
2 to BC
2 to Princeton
0 to Penn

Just about all of the 12 have done very well. I think 5 All-Americans. The Tewarraton Award Winner. I'm sure some All-Conference.

BC - 8 of the 9 players start just about every game. one player started many games. All are playing a ton.

NC - 4 of the 8 are regular starters when healthy. 2 play in most games.1 off roster injury. 1 (goalie) played 60% of the time.

MD - 7 of the 9 are regular starters. One plays in every game. One is a reserve.

Pton - 5 of the 7 would be considered starters. 1 doesn't seem to start but gets time in every game and plays a lot. 1 player was out last season due to injury.

Penn - 2 of the 6 are regular starters. 1 is a reserve player. 3 are out due to injury.

This is all before their Senior Season.

Up until this point in their careers most seam to become starters. Many others play a significant amount and only a few do not play very much and most of the time that is due to injury.

The top programs do appear to bring in between 7 and 9 recruits many of which are highly touted. These players do go on to have very good college careers and many become the top players in the game.

Sorry but I had to look for myself.

This is why you get the clueless posters like myself responding to this nonsense. No one posts on these boards that the so called to 30 players stop playing the sport, its just some fake news you dopes like to resond to. Then you use your facts to back up the success of these kids problem is your facts are not facts at all.Lets take the top rated recruiting class of the 2015 from UNC .Of the 8, 4 are no longer with this graduating class, 1 is no longer playing . Last season 3-4 would have been considered starters ,5 of the 8 played in every game they were available for, none were named as IWLCA all americans. So yes they are successful as a group contributing to a very good program but as has been stated if you think coming into a top program as a highly ranked Inside Lacrosse player is some guarantee of playing time, AA status etc you are sadly mistaken. I am sure your " facts " are just as suspect with all the programs but honestly who wants to waste that much time looking up this nonsense.

There have been many posts on this site over the years where people insinuate that the players who go to the top programs, make UA, are recognized as a "top player" by inside lacrosse etc... Will not pan out, will never see the field, will major in basket weaving , will not be on the team in four years etc....

I have never read on here a post saying that being recognized as a top player in HS will guarantee a player anything let alone guarantee being named college AA.

I have read several posts rebutting the posts saying the top HS players will not do well in college.

You seem bent on moving the goal post with your arguments.

It looks like a few posters have layed out some facts in order to dispel some myths that have been put on this site.

I have also noticed that since some light has been shed on reality certain posters want to move the goal post.

Example : it is no longer an accomplishment or a major contribution to start and or play in every game for a top program. To some (maybe to you) anything less than First Team All American means the top HS player did not pan out.

It is now official, the first boy and the first girl to have committed from the class of 2020 "both as 8th graders" have changed their commitment. The boy from Penn State to Duke and the girl from Syracuse to North Carolina. On the surface it looks like the early committing worked out for both of these players.

My question is: Will this cause a domino effect?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is now official, the first boy and the first girl to have committed from the class of 2020 "both as 8th graders" have changed their commitment. The boy from Penn State to Duke and the girl from Syracuse to North Carolina. On the surface it looks like the early committing worked out for both of these players.

My question is: Will this cause a domino effect?

Goes to show that the new junior year restrictions are a very good thing. Committing 5 years outs leaves lots of things that all need to pan out, players, programs, coaches. Too much to meet all expectations when things come together five years down the road. As far as a domino effect, probably won’t see too much of this going on. It is a very tough deal to be switching programs now as a 2020, All the top programs are done or close to done with this recruiting class. Some have ability to jockey obviously, but player options are certainly narrower with much less $$ available. This bailing out on verbals is yet another danger of early recruiting that the coaches are happy to have gone!

Is it true Carol Rose has found a way to bring in one of the most talented players on Long Island to her High School team? That can't make a lot of people happy. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Carol Rose has found a way to bring in one of the most talented players on Long Island to her High School team? That can't make a lot of people happy. Thoughts?

Spit it out. Stop with the cryptic nonsense and just spill the beans. What gives?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Carol Rose has found a way to bring in one of the most talented players on Long Island to her High School team? That can't make a lot of people happy. Thoughts?

One of the most talented is questionable, how would you know the kid has not played in years . Found a way , well if you get kicked out of multiple schools you have to go somewhere .Not the first player to fake residence somewhere in order to go to a different school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Carol Rose has found a way to bring in one of the most talented players on Long Island to her High School team? That can't make a lot of people happy. Thoughts?

Spit it out. Stop with the cryptic nonsense and just spill the beans. What gives?

. Most talented according to whom??CR?? She’s running out of schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is now official, the first boy and the first girl to have committed from the class of 2020 "both as 8th graders" have changed their commitment. The boy from Penn State to Duke and the girl from Syracuse to North Carolina. On the surface it looks like the early committing worked out for both of these players.

My question is: Will this cause a domino effect?

Goes to show that the new junior year restrictions are a very good thing. Committing 5 years outs leaves lots of things that all need to pan out, players, programs, coaches. Too much to meet all expectations when things come together five years down the road. As far as a domino effect, probably won’t see too much of this going on. It is a very tough deal to be switching programs now as a 2020, All the top programs are done or close to done with this recruiting class. Some have ability to jockey obviously, but player options are certainly narrower with much less $$ available. This bailing out on verbals is yet another danger of early recruiting that the coaches are happy to have gone!

How does this show the jr year restrictions is a good thing. This now limits the players. If a player wants to get committed earlier who cares, so what if they de-commit or change their minds. For goodness sake the coaches have no problem changing their minds. I say good for both of these student athletes that they had the foresight to commit and then to take advantage of a better offer.

Now, the colleges have more power. They get to see the players as more mature players and students. all the recruits have to do is make the grades and the ACT/SAT marks. NO simple task at these schools. Understanding the top players dont play by the same rules as others, but these schools boast some high SAT ranges.

Now the real proof will be 15 years from now, to see if it sticks, or will we see (like i suspect) a cyclical process of early recruiting lasting a few years only to change back to a Jr year commit schedule for a few years.

Schools always said they would pouch kids if there was an early recruiting process or not, so who cares. If you are good enough, you will always get the calls/feelers from the better schools what have you until the day you sign, if your student is smart enough to attend why wouldnt you entertain that option.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is now official, the first boy and the first girl to have committed from the class of 2020 "both as 8th graders" have changed their commitment. The boy from Penn State to Duke and the girl from Syracuse to North Carolina. On the surface it looks like the early committing worked out for both of these players.

My question is: Will this cause a domino effect?

Goes to show that the new junior year restrictions are a very good thing. Committing 5 years outs leaves lots of things that all need to pan out, players, programs, coaches. Too much to meet all expectations when things come together five years down the road. As far as a domino effect, probably won’t see too much of this going on. It is a very tough deal to be switching programs now as a 2020, All the top programs are done or close to done with this recruiting class. Some have ability to jockey obviously, but player options are certainly narrower with much less $$ available. This bailing out on verbals is yet another danger of early recruiting that the coaches are happy to have gone!

How does this show the jr year restrictions is a good thing. This now limits the players. If a player wants to get committed earlier who cares, so what if they de-commit or change their minds. For goodness sake the coaches have no problem changing their minds. I say good for both of these student athletes that they had the foresight to commit and then to take advantage of a better offer.

Now, the colleges have more power. They get to see the players as more mature players and students. all the recruits have to do is make the grades and the ACT/SAT marks. NO simple task at these schools. Understanding the top players dont play by the same rules as others, but these schools boast some high SAT ranges.

Now the real proof will be 15 years from now, to see if it sticks, or will we see (like i suspect) a cyclical process of early recruiting lasting a few years only to change back to a Jr year commit schedule for a few years.

Schools always said they would pouch kids if there was an early recruiting process or not, so who cares. If you are good enough, you will always get the calls/feelers from the better schools what have you until the day you sign, if your student is smart enough to attend why wouldnt you entertain that option.

Because tying up money on kid's who aren't in High School was a JOKE. Plus these middle schoolers don't have a clue as to what they want to do in life and haven't even taken a HS class yet. How about in middle school we let them get the grades up and then if they are still great players in 11th grade it will work out a lot better for both coach and student.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Carol Rose has found a way to bring in one of the most talented players on Long Island to her High School team? That can't make a lot of people happy. Thoughts?

I'm not sure who you are talking about but do know that CR as well as most college coaches try and rehabilitate players all the time LOLOLOLOLOLOL if it means it will help the coach and program win and ultimitly pad their pocket books

There has been several kids moving districts lately , seems they do not investigate actual residency very well as the few I know do not actually live in the district they attend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There has been several kids moving districts lately , seems they do not investigate actual residency very well as the few I know do not actually live in the district they attend.

WESTHAMPTON

What happened at WestHampton

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Carol Rose has found a way to bring in one of the most talented players on Long Island to her High School team? That can't make a lot of people happy. Thoughts?

Spit it out. Stop with the cryptic nonsense and just spill the beans. What gives?

. Most talented according to whom??CR?? She’s running out of schools.

Thought it was Farmingdale with Tracey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at WestHampton

Go back to page 246-247 that's where it mentions a kid using a fake address to play in WH

Well maybe she will win this year!!! She has not been to the finals in years!!! Also will help very much that wi is not in her league they have moved to Div 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well maybe she will win this year!!! She has not been to the finals in years!!! Also will help very much that wi is not in her league they have moved to Div 2

Finals of what

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is now official, the first boy and the first girl to have committed from the class of 2020 "both as 8th graders" have changed their commitment. The boy from Penn State to Duke and the girl from Syracuse to North Carolina. On the surface it looks like the early committing worked out for both of these players.

My question is: Will this cause a domino effect?

Goes to show that the new junior year restrictions are a very good thing. Committing 5 years outs leaves lots of things that all need to pan out, players, programs, coaches. Too much to meet all expectations when things come together five years down the road. As far as a domino effect, probably won’t see too much of this going on. It is a very tough deal to be switching programs now as a 2020, All the top programs are done or close to done with this recruiting class. Some have ability to jockey obviously, but player options are certainly narrower with much less $$ available. This bailing out on verbals is yet another danger of early recruiting that the coaches are happy to have gone!

How does this show the jr year restrictions is a good thing. This now limits the players. If a player wants to get committed earlier who cares, so what if they de-commit or change their minds. For goodness sake the coaches have no problem changing their minds. I say good for both of these student athletes that they had the foresight to commit and then to take advantage of a better offer.

Now, the colleges have more power. They get to see the players as more mature players and students. all the recruits have to do is make the grades and the ACT/SAT marks. NO simple task at these schools. Understanding the top players dont play by the same rules as others, but these schools boast some high SAT ranges.

Now the real proof will be 15 years from now, to see if it sticks, or will we see (like i suspect) a cyclical process of early recruiting lasting a few years only to change back to a Jr year commit schedule for a few years.

Schools always said they would pouch kids if there was an early recruiting process or not, so who cares. If you are good enough, you will always get the calls/feelers from the better schools what have you until the day you sign, if your student is smart enough to attend why wouldnt you entertain that option.

Because tying up money on kid's who aren't in High School was a JOKE. Plus these middle schoolers don't have a clue as to what they want to do in life and haven't even taken a HS class yet. How about in middle school we let them get the grades up and then if they are still great players in 11th grade it will work out a lot better for both coach and student.

Silly, the rule is / was / will always only benefits schools/coaches not athletes. How many HSers do you know that know what they want, sure more than MSers but not many.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is now official, the first boy and the first girl to have committed from the class of 2020 "both as 8th graders" have changed their commitment. The boy from Penn State to Duke and the girl from Syracuse to North Carolina. On the surface it looks like the early committing worked out for both of these players.

My question is: Will this cause a domino effect?

Goes to show that the new junior year restrictions are a very good thing. Committing 5 years outs leaves lots of things that all need to pan out, players, programs, coaches. Too much to meet all expectations when things come together five years down the road. As far as a domino effect, probably won’t see too much of this going on. It is a very tough deal to be switching programs now as a 2020, All the top programs are done or close to done with this recruiting class. Some have ability to jockey obviously, but player options are certainly narrower with much less $$ available. This bailing out on verbals is yet another danger of early recruiting that the coaches are happy to have gone!

How does this show the jr year restrictions is a good thing. This now limits the players. If a player wants to get committed earlier who cares, so what if they de-commit or change their minds. For goodness sake the coaches have no problem changing their minds. I say good for both of these student athletes that they had the foresight to commit and then to take advantage of a better offer.

Now, the colleges have more power. They get to see the players as more mature players and students. all the recruits have to do is make the grades and the ACT/SAT marks. NO simple task at these schools. Understanding the top players dont play by the same rules as others, but these schools boast some high SAT ranges.

Now the real proof will be 15 years from now, to see if it sticks, or will we see (like i suspect) a cyclical process of early recruiting lasting a few years only to change back to a Jr year commit schedule for a few years.

Schools always said they would pouch kids if there was an early recruiting process or not, so who cares. If you are good enough, you will always get the calls/feelers from the better schools what have you until the day you sign, if your student is smart enough to attend why wouldnt you entertain that option.

Because tying up money on kid's who aren't in High School was a JOKE. Plus these middle schoolers don't have a clue as to what they want to do in life and haven't even taken a HS class yet. How about in middle school we let them get the grades up and then if they are still great players in 11th grade it will work out a lot better for both coach and student.

Silly, the rule is / was / will always only benefits schools/coaches not athletes. How many HSers do you know that know what they want, sure more than MSers but not many.

Not sure it benefitted coaches. Betting on 8th graders and tying up scholarship money was like buying a lottery ticket

"Not sure it benefitted coaches. Betting on 8th graders and tying up scholarship money was like buying a lottery ticket"

Yet the to schools were still better at identifying talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Not sure it benefitted coaches. Betting on 8th graders and tying up scholarship money was like buying a lottery ticket"

Yet the to schools were still better at identifying talent

Most of the coaches can identify talent. Not all coaches can convince the talent they want to go to their school. Do you think the coaches at schools that are constantly outside the top 25 - 30 are there because they can't identify the talent? No, they are not top programs because for the most part the top talent choses to go to the top programs. The other teams have to take the players that are left over or find a compelling reason for s top prospect to choose a lesser program. Look at the programs that are Top 20 just about every year.

Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern, Virginia, Duke, Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn, Syracuse, Penn State, Stony Brook Florida, Stanford, USC throw in Georgetown, Hopkins, Loyola and Even JMU who may not have been as consistent but has always been competitive and plays tough shedule.

For the Top Prospects that is a great list of schools to choose from. The bottom line is the best players can chose the right fit academically, socially, financially, Geographically etc...

The players that recieve offers from the above list will usually choose one of those schools.

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Depends on your definition of elite. They are all typically in the top 20. Combined with their academic prowess that's a pretty appealing offer. You can throw Penn and Princeton in that list too. Not like they are winning championships these days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Then your ill informed list of elite programs must be a list of 1, Maryland with possibly a 2 UNC. Exactly which teams do you consider elite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Depends on your definition of elite. They are all typically in the top 20. Combined with their academic prowess that's a pretty appealing offer. You can throw Penn and Princeton in that list too. Not like they are winning championships these days.

I am not the person that you are responding to but IMHO any team that has been ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season for the past five years would be considered elite (teams must remain competitive in order to stay relavent). We all know that Winning The National Championship (especially recently) puts you in elite company but there are a handful of other elite programs.

11 Programs have finished the season in top 20 in each of the past five years. (I would bet most a bit longer than 5 yrs)

Maryland
UNC
BC
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Penn State
Florida
Princeton
Penn
Northwestern
Virginia

ND , Louisville - 4 times . JMU Loyola, Duke,Stanford , UMass and Hopkins 3 times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Depends on your definition of elite. They are all typically in the top 20. Combined with their academic prowess that's a pretty appealing offer. You can throw Penn and Princeton in that list too. Not like they are winning championships these days.

I am not the person that you are responding to but IMHO any team that has been ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season for the past five years would be considered elite (teams must remain competitive in order to stay relavent). We all know that Winning The National Championship (especially recently) puts you in elite company but there are a handful of other elite programs.

11 Programs have finished the season in top 20 in each of the past five years. (I would bet most a bit longer than 5 yrs)

Maryland
UNC
BC
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Penn State
Florida
Princeton
Penn
Northwestern
Virginia

ND , Louisville - 4 times . JMU Loyola, Duke,Stanford , UMass and Hopkins 3 times.

I would agree with this. each and every school mentioned here I would consider an elite lacrosse school, and academically I dont think theres a bad school in the bunch. Winning a championship is hard, only one team wins every year. The elite are the schools you can almost expect to finish in the top 20-25 every year, conference champs and NCAA bid contenders. That's just my opinion. I'd be thrilled if my daughter played for and attended any of those schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Depends on your definition of elite. They are all typically in the top 20. Combined with their academic prowess that's a pretty appealing offer. You can throw Penn and Princeton in that list too. Not like they are winning championships these days.

I am not the person that you are responding to but IMHO any team that has been ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season for the past five years would be considered elite (teams must remain competitive in order to stay relavent). We all know that Winning The National Championship (especially recently) puts you in elite company but there are a handful of other elite programs.

11 Programs have finished the season in top 20 in each of the past five years. (I would bet most a bit longer than 5 yrs)

Maryland
UNC
BC
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Penn State
Florida
Princeton
Penn
Northwestern
Virginia

ND , Louisville - 4 times . JMU Loyola, Duke,Stanford , UMass and Hopkins 3 times.

That is an absolute burn of the original I’ll informed poster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Depends on your definition of elite. They are all typically in the top 20. Combined with their academic prowess that's a pretty appealing offer. You can throw Penn and Princeton in that list too. Not like they are winning championships these days.

I am not the person that you are responding to but IMHO any team that has been ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season for the past five years would be considered elite (teams must remain competitive in order to stay relavent). We all know that Winning The National Championship (especially recently) puts you in elite company but there are a handful of other elite programs.

11 Programs have finished the season in top 20 in each of the past five years. (I would bet most a bit longer than 5 yrs)

Maryland
UNC
BC
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Penn State
Florida
Princeton
Penn
Northwestern
Virginia

ND , Louisville - 4 times . JMU Loyola, Duke,Stanford , UMass and Hopkins 3 times.

I would agree with this. each and every school mentioned here I would consider an elite lacrosse school, and academically I dont think theres a bad school in the bunch. Winning a championship is hard, only one team wins every year. The elite are the schools you can almost expect to finish in the top 20-25 every year, conference champs and NCAA bid contenders. That's just my opinion. I'd be thrilled if my daughter played for and attended any of those schools.

I personally dont think that MD, Florida, Syracuse, Penn State, etc. can be mentioned academically when you are comparing them to Penn, Princeton and some others. They are ok academically and have good lax programs but they are not in that category. I know kids going to MD that are just average students.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Depends on your definition of elite. They are all typically in the top 20. Combined with their academic prowess that's a pretty appealing offer. You can throw Penn and Princeton in that list too. Not like they are winning championships these days.

I am not the person that you are responding to but IMHO any team that has been ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season for the past five years would be considered elite (teams must remain competitive in order to stay relavent). We all know that Winning The National Championship (especially recently) puts you in elite company but there are a handful of other elite programs.

11 Programs have finished the season in top 20 in each of the past five years. (I would bet most a bit longer than 5 yrs)

Maryland
UNC
BC
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Penn State
Florida
Princeton
Penn
Northwestern
Virginia

ND , Louisville - 4 times . JMU Loyola, Duke,Stanford , UMass and Hopkins 3 times.

I would agree with this. each and every school mentioned here I would consider an elite lacrosse school, and academically I dont think theres a bad school in the bunch. Winning a championship is hard, only one team wins every year. The elite are the schools you can almost expect to finish in the top 20-25 every year, conference champs and NCAA bid contenders. That's just my opinion. I'd be thrilled if my daughter played for and attended any of those schools.

I personally dont think that MD, Florida, Syracuse, Penn State, etc. can be mentioned academically when you are comparing them to Penn, Princeton and some others. They are ok academically and have good lax programs but they are not in that category. I know kids going to MD that are just average students.

Go on each schools website and look at the acceptance rate numbers and that will give you a better indication of how competitive they are academically. Also factor in that state schools get applicants from virtually every kid in the state due to the financial component of being an in-state resident

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ND ,Duke, UVA and Georgetown are not elite programs anymore. Fantastic academic schools

Depends on your definition of elite. They are all typically in the top 20. Combined with their academic prowess that's a pretty appealing offer. You can throw Penn and Princeton in that list too. Not like they are winning championships these days.

I am not the person that you are responding to but IMHO any team that has been ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season for the past five years would be considered elite (teams must remain competitive in order to stay relavent). We all know that Winning The National Championship (especially recently) puts you in elite company but there are a handful of other elite programs.

11 Programs have finished the season in top 20 in each of the past five years. (I would bet most a bit longer than 5 yrs)

Maryland
UNC
BC
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Penn State
Florida
Princeton
Penn
Northwestern
Virginia

ND , Louisville - 4 times . JMU Loyola, Duke,Stanford , UMass and Hopkins 3 times.

I would agree with this. each and every school mentioned here I would consider an elite lacrosse school, and academically I dont think theres a bad school in the bunch. Winning a championship is hard, only one team wins every year. The elite are the schools you can almost expect to finish in the top 20-25 every year, conference champs and NCAA bid contenders. That's just my opinion. I'd be thrilled if my daughter played for and attended any of those schools.

I personally dont think that MD, Florida, Syracuse, Penn State, etc. can be mentioned academically when you are comparing them to Penn, Princeton and some others. They are ok academically and have good lax programs but they are not in that category. I know kids going to MD that are just average students.

Go on each schools website and look at the acceptance rate numbers and that will give you a better indication of how competitive they are academically. Also factor in that state schools get applicants from virtually every kid in the state due to the financial component of being an in-state resident

Acceptance rate is extremely subjective. It is a rate of acceptance of those who have applied. For instance, only kids in the top 5% of their HS class would bother even applying to Penn. the top 50% of a HS class will apply to Penn State. Huge difference in the incoming pool of applicants. You can not compare one schools acceptance rate to anothers unless the incoming pool of applicants are similar. Therefore you can not go to a schools website and look at the acceptance rate numbers to see how competitive they are, unless you are familiar with typical applicants. Standardized testing scores, incoming student class rankings etc... are a much better bench mark to see where you stand.

Exactly, when you have in state schools like MD, Florida, Penn State, Stony Brook , UVA, UMASS, UNC the amount of applicants are astronomical. Yes, they have a lot of students enrolled , but nearly every in state kid applies. Still great educations that I see no reason to knock because your Sally goes to Penn, Princeton, or Duke. Like I said earlier, I'd be thrilled if my daughter was able to get an education from one of those state schools while having the opportunity to have a competitive lax career. Not sure why people have to always "one up" one another here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly, when you have in state schools like MD, Florida, Penn State, Stony Brook , UVA, UMASS, UNC the amount of applicants are astronomical. Yes, they have a lot of students enrolled , but nearly every in state kid applies. Still great educations that I see no reason to knock because your Sally goes to Penn, Princeton, or Duke. Like I said earlier, I'd be thrilled if my daughter was able to get an education from one of those state schools while having the opportunity to have a competitive lax career. Not sure why people have to always "one up" one another here.

Agree completely, also getting into those state schools when applying from out of state is in some cases extremely difficult and you need to be near the top of your high school class.

Since this is a HS Lax thread want to say, as been stated on this forum before, the elite Nassau Power Conference 1, probably best group of teams in the country

https://twitter.com/flglax/status/1056161205486870528?s=21

all the rest should stick to field hockey

Have you checked out the IAAM A division in Baltimore?

Iaam A looks comprable. Is that only private and catholic ? I would say that nassau power conf 1 more impressive as it is public schools , they cant recruit, and limited budgets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly, when you have in state schools like MD, Florida, Penn State, Stony Brook , UVA, UMASS, UNC the amount of applicants are astronomical. Yes, they have a lot of students enrolled , but nearly every in state kid applies. Still great educations that I see no reason to knock because your Sally goes to Penn, Princeton, or Duke. Like I said earlier, I'd be thrilled if my daughter was able to get an education from one of those state schools while having the opportunity to have a competitive lax career. Not sure why people have to always "one up" one another here.

Agree completely, also getting into those state schools when applying from out of state is in some cases extremely difficult and you need to be near the top of your high school class.

That's what the lacrosse stick is for

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Iaam A looks comprable. Is that only private and catholic ? I would say that nassau power conf 1 more impressive as it is public schools , they cant recruit, and limited budgets

Or even the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since this is a HS Lax thread want to say, as been stated on this forum before, the elite Nassau Power Conference 1, probably best group of teams in the country

https://twitter.com/flglax/status/1056161205486870528?s=21

all the rest should stick to field hockey

Better teams in Suffolk County

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Iaam A looks comprable. Is that only private and catholic ? I would say that nassau power conf 1 more impressive as it is public schools , they cant recruit, and limited budgets

Or even the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since this is a HS Lax thread want to say, as been stated on this forum before, the elite Nassau Power Conference 1, probably best group of teams in the country

https://twitter.com/flglax/status/1056161205486870528?s=21

all the rest should stick to field hockey

Better teams in Suffolk County

LOL Suffolk LOL I just spit my Cab all over my screen...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Iaam A looks comprable. Is that only private and catholic ? I would say that nassau power conf 1 more impressive as it is public schools , they cant recruit, and limited budgets

Or even the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since this is a HS Lax thread want to say, as been stated on this forum before, the elite Nassau Power Conference 1, probably best group of teams in the country

https://twitter.com/flglax/status/1056161205486870528?s=21

all the rest should stick to field hockey

Better teams in Suffolk County

LOL Suffolk LOL I just spit my Cab all over my screen...

Suffolk has more better teams for sure, just spread out through the conferences. Do like what Nassau does grouping the top teams together. Once you get to the bottom of that power conference and the conferences below the teams drop off big time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Iaam A looks comprable. Is that only private and catholic ? I would say that nassau power conf 1 more impressive as it is public schools , they cant recruit, and limited budgets

Or even the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since this is a HS Lax thread want to say, as been stated on this forum before, the elite Nassau Power Conference 1, probably best group of teams in the country

https://twitter.com/flglax/status/1056161205486870528?s=21

all the rest should stick to field hockey

Better teams in Suffolk County

LOL Suffolk LOL I just spit my Cab all over my screen...

Hmmmm......All of the top rated players come from Suffolk. For example, the only two Teewaraton winners from LI from W Bab, as well as Kylie Ohlmiller and Kerrigan Miller. Was your daughter on the corner of Inside lacrosse? NOT!! Your daughter will most likely disappear after HS so chill. Maybe you should stick to tea!

Mo Betta G

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Wisj.

I would pay top dollar to see the top teams play perhap at beginning of the year have some champions tourney like college bball ie duke v kansas or mich state v kentucky. Maybe last years nassau big school champ play suffolk small school champ or nassau small school champ vs suffolk big school champ. You can even do it for charity. SWR had charity soccer match this year where they played garden city. Would be good for the game. Great exposure as well since Li is a hotbed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Past 3 years, Nassau 4 state titles and Suffolk 3, Past 5 years Nassau 5 and Suffolk 6, past 10 years, Nassau 12 and Suffolk 11, past 15 years Nassau 15 and Suffolk 13. Looks even to me... (nysphsaa.org).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Your ignorance shines through. Their ranking is such because of loss of starters. They graduated a huge class and I believe 8 were starters. A team like WB is ranked higher because they graduated maybe 2/3. Their starters are still there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Past 3 years, Nassau 4 state titles and Suffolk 3, Past 5 years Nassau 5 and Suffolk 6, past 10 years, Nassau 12 and Suffolk 11, past 15 years Nassau 15 and Suffolk 13. Looks even to me... (nysphsaa.org).

Agree it is an even split of who wins LI championships each year. Nassau and Suffolk each have several top teams that are about equal and flip flop wins. Difference is Suffolk always has more quality teams that eliminate each other in playoffs just to get to LI championship. So it is true that Suffolk has more quality teams or more depth or whatever all the earlier posts mentioned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Past 3 years, Nassau 4 state titles and Suffolk 3, Past 5 years Nassau 5 and Suffolk 6, past 10 years, Nassau 12 and Suffolk 11, past 15 years Nassau 15 and Suffolk 13. Looks even to me... (nysphsaa.org).

Agree it is an even split of who wins LI championships each year. Nassau and Suffolk each have several top teams that are about equal and flip flop wins. Difference is Suffolk always has more quality teams that eliminate each other in playoffs just to get to LI championship. So it is true that Suffolk has more quality teams or more depth or whatever all the earlier posts mentioned.

All the more reason to have a Nassau v Suffolk tourney. #1 to continue to grow and attract attention to sport #2 to continue to play against quality opponents which will result in LI becoming more stronger of a region (as the sport continues to expand to the west and south). I like the ideas of an early season tourney.. I guess we may larady something similar (not exactly but similar in the gains for brains tourney https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/180011/308.html

Suffolk needs to go to a power conference. Lax like no other sport is all about getting recruited even at the PAL ages so when the kids get to HS they try to put up 15 points a game against inferior talent so they get their name in Newsday. Let these ball hogs go against quality teams and defenses on more regular basis! Betaing team XYZ 22-4 does no one any good and the coaches in these routes stink for allowing ball hogs to stat pad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Past 3 years, Nassau 4 state titles and Suffolk 3, Past 5 years Nassau 5 and Suffolk 6, past 10 years, Nassau 12 and Suffolk 11, past 15 years Nassau 15 and Suffolk 13. Looks even to me... (nysphsaa.org).

Agree it is an even split of who wins LI championships each year. Nassau and Suffolk each have several top teams that are about equal and flip flop wins. Difference is Suffolk always has more quality teams that eliminate each other in playoffs just to get to LI championship. So it is true that Suffolk has more quality teams or more depth or whatever all the earlier posts mentioned.

This is state titles, not LI championships. Without data, just a bunch of opinions. Depth would mean different representation each year in Long Island championship. Nassau in the last 5 years has had more teams reach the Long Island Championship than Suffolk. Class A- Pequa, Syosset and Farmingdale vs. WI and MC, Class B- Set, GC and Wantagh vs. ESM and Sayville, Class C- Cold Spring Harbor and Wantagh vs. Mount Sinai and BBP and Class D- Carle Place vs. Mattituck. Nassau had 9 and Suffolk 7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Past 3 years, Nassau 4 state titles and Suffolk 3, Past 5 years Nassau 5 and Suffolk 6, past 10 years, Nassau 12 and Suffolk 11, past 15 years Nassau 15 and Suffolk 13. Looks even to me... (nysphsaa.org).

Agree it is an even split of who wins LI championships each year. Nassau and Suffolk each have several top teams that are about equal and flip flop wins. Difference is Suffolk always has more quality teams that eliminate each other in playoffs just to get to LI championship. So it is true that Suffolk has more quality teams or more depth or whatever all the earlier posts mentioned.

This is state titles, not LI championships. Without data, just a bunch of opinions. Depth would mean different representation each year in Long Island championship. Nassau in the last 5 years has had more teams reach the Long Island Championship than Suffolk. Class A- Pequa, Syosset and Farmingdale vs. WI and MC, Class B- Set, GC and Wantagh vs. ESM and Sayville, Class C- Cold Spring Harbor and Wantagh vs. Mount Sinai and BBP and Class D- Carle Place vs. Mattituck. Nassau had 9 and Suffolk 7.

This "Depth would mean different representation each year in Long Island championship" is a solid and concrete observation! no objections on my end. But seriously, can we just get a Nassau fsuffolk tourney.

Anyway... does anyone know anything about this showcase in Garden City? https://nylaxacademy.com/girls-summer-showcase . On the surface it looks legit. anyone from MD coming up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk needs to go to a power conference. Lax like no other sport is all about getting recruited even at the PAL ages so when the kids get to HS they try to put up 15 points a game against inferior talent so they get their name in Newsday. Let these ball hogs go against quality teams and defenses on more regular basis! Betaing team XYZ 22-4 does no one any good and the coaches in these routes stink for allowing ball hogs to stat pad

Amen brother!! how do the Suffolk conferences work. Are they organized by school population?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mo Betta G

LOL... I just realized who you were referring to

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Past 3 years, Nassau 4 state titles and Suffolk 3, Past 5 years Nassau 5 and Suffolk 6, past 10 years, Nassau 12 and Suffolk 11, past 15 years Nassau 15 and Suffolk 13. Looks even to me... (nysphsaa.org).

Agree it is an even split of who wins LI championships each year. Nassau and Suffolk each have several top teams that are about equal and flip flop wins. Difference is Suffolk always has more quality teams that eliminate each other in playoffs just to get to LI championship. So it is true that Suffolk has more quality teams or more depth or whatever all the earlier posts mentioned.

This is state titles, not LI championships. Without data, just a bunch of opinions. Depth would mean different representation each year in Long Island championship. Nassau in the last 5 years has had more teams reach the Long Island Championship than Suffolk. Class A- Pequa, Syosset and Farmingdale vs. WI and MC, Class B- Set, GC and Wantagh vs. ESM and Sayville, Class C- Cold Spring Harbor and Wantagh vs. Mount Sinai and BBP and Class D- Carle Place vs. Mattituck. Nassau had 9 and Suffolk 7.

This "Depth would mean different representation each year in Long Island championship" is a solid and concrete observation! no objections on my end. But seriously, can we just get a Nassau fsuffolk tourney.

Anyway... does anyone know anything about this showcase in Garden City? https://nylaxacademy.com/girls-summer-showcase . On the surface it looks legit. anyone from MD coming up?

It's a fund raiser for Tucker and company and the past few years the summer genesis tournament was that same weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk is deeper and has been for years ,the top B,C,D teams all play one another . A in Suffolk is weak , just look at West Islip who would have been ranked 1 in A but are ranked I think 6 in the BCD division .

Past 3 years, Nassau 4 state titles and Suffolk 3, Past 5 years Nassau 5 and Suffolk 6, past 10 years, Nassau 12 and Suffolk 11, past 15 years Nassau 15 and Suffolk 13. Looks even to me... (nysphsaa.org).

Agree it is an even split of who wins LI championships each year. Nassau and Suffolk each have several top teams that are about equal and flip flop wins. Difference is Suffolk always has more quality teams that eliminate each other in playoffs just to get to LI championship. So it is true that Suffolk has more quality teams or more depth or whatever all the earlier posts mentioned.

This is state titles, not LI championships. Without data, just a bunch of opinions. Depth would mean different representation each year in Long Island championship. Nassau in the last 5 years has had more teams reach the Long Island Championship than Suffolk. Class A- Pequa, Syosset and Farmingdale vs. WI and MC, Class B- Set, GC and Wantagh vs. ESM and Sayville, Class C- Cold Spring Harbor and Wantagh vs. Mount Sinai and BBP and Class D- Carle Place vs. Mattituck. Nassau had 9 and Suffolk 7.

This "Depth would mean different representation each year in Long Island championship" is a solid and concrete observation! no objections on my end. But seriously, can we just get a Nassau fsuffolk tourney.

Anyway... does anyone know anything about this showcase in Garden City? https://nylaxacademy.com/girls-summer-showcase . On the surface it looks legit. anyone from MD coming up?

It's a fund raiser for Tucker and company and the past few years the summer genesis tournament was that same weekend

Got it. The Summer G seems to have legit teams.

Well I have to hand it the her, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Northport has just put every player in their town on notice. If we find an unhappy kid from Queens, Nassau, or Suffolk that is talented we will recruit them to come play at Northport and play them over your daughter! So sad can’t win with what we have..... so much for Town Pride!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well I have to hand it the her, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well I have to hand it to her, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

this cannot be true! you can't just play for another district.. this isn't college its HS

I’m trying to determine which one is the least pathetic. A coach who would go to such lengths that she will bring on players from other towns which basically tells her current team that she has no faith in them. One kid who probably won’t even make it to lacrosse season before she gets booted and the other who really is a stat padder against crappy teams but in clutch situations can’t really do anything. Or is it the athletic director who goes along with the whole thing. Or is it the parents who Would actually spend money to rent a home or an apartment in another town so that their daughter can play high school lacrosse for a team that probably won’t win anyway

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well I have to hand it to her,, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

this cannot be true! you can't just play for another district.. this isn't college its HS

Oh it’s true. And if I lived in NP I would be on the phone with section xi in a heartbeat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well I have to hand it to her,, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

this cannot be true! you can't just play for another district.. this isn't college its HS

Oh it’s true. And if I lived in NP I would be on the phone with section xi in a heartbeat

This crap has been going on in all sports and districts since forever. West Babylon basketball and RVC soccer come to mind. You can call the district but unless the kid's address turns out to be a gas station (hello, WB) then what can they do? Nada.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Well I have to hand it to her,, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

this cannot be true! you can't just play for another district.. this isn't college its HS

Oh it’s true. And if I lived in NP I would be on the phone with section xi in a heartbeat

Don't believe it its all rumor she couldnbt get away with recruiting kids from other districts there are too many regulations to prevent this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Well I have to hand it to her,, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

this cannot be true! you can't just play for another district.. this isn't college its HS

Oh it’s true. And if I lived in NP I would be on the phone with section xi in a heartbeat

Don't believe it its all rumor she couldnbt get away with recruiting kids from other districts there are too many regulations to prevent this

hahahahahaha oh you silly person CR is above rules especially when the AD is a YJ coach rumor has it

What are the parents thinking the kids will be welcomed with open arms?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Well I have to hand it to her,, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has
not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

this cannot be true! you can't just play for another district.. this isn't college its HS

Oh it’s true. And if I lived in NP I would be on the phone with section xi in a heartbeat

Don't believe it its all rumor she couldnbt get away with recruiting kids from other districts there are too many regulations to prevent this

Regulations don’t matter. The Northport AD has a daughter on Wright’s 2024 team. All of the free agents play or played on YJ teams. It must really stink for the girls getting pushed aside for the free agents. That’s gonna be one fun sideline this year the parents will be one happy family.

“For athletic eligibility, a residency is changed when one is abandoned by the immediate family and another residency is established through action and intent. Residency requires one's physical presence as an inhabitant and the intent to remain indefinitely. The Superintendent, or designee, will determine if the student has met district residency requirements.”

From section xi ,seems to me this rule is not followed as many do not actually abandone ( leave and or sell) their original residence as they just rent apartments at best and do not intend to stay indefinitely .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“For athletic eligibility, a residency is changed when one is abandoned by the immediate family and another residency is established through action and intent. Residency requires one's physical presence as an inhabitant and the intent to remain indefinitely. The Superintendent, or designee, will determine if the student has met district residency requirements.”

From section xi ,seems to me this rule is not followed as many do not actually abandone ( leave and or sell) their original residence as they just rent apartments at best and do not intend to stay indefinitely .

It's done, move on Pav

You people need to show the new Nation United Ambassador of the game respect. The Queen Bee has spoken

Who takes their kid out of their childhood house for lacrosse?

If you knew the old man, you wouldn't have to ask that

Didn't she do it with her own kids for football? Or is that just another CR lie spread by the haters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who takes their kid out of their childhood house for lacrosse?

Someone who believes in the geographical cure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't she do it with her own kids for football? Or is that just another CR lie spread by the haters?

Not sure what district she lives in, but one son played for Connetquot.

She should’ve behaved at Massapequa. They made it further than Northport

There s/b prayers for that poor kid....I cant ever imagine that her story will end well.......

Is it true a North Babylon kid is also renting an apartment in Northport?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Well I have to hand it to her,, she literally does not care what other coaches ,players, administrators think. She takes her superstar who has been allegedly kicked off teams, out of schools for poor behavior and "moves" her into her district in a desperate attempt to finally win a county title. Worse she puts her up as a Nation United Ambassador of the game in a shameless attempt to rehab a deplorable reputation for a player who I have seen curse out officials , teammates etc. Becoming said ambassador is based on skill( how would we know has
not really played in a long time),Character including exemplifying the best of the sport on and off the field. What a joke and yet the other coaches on LI cater to her every whim .

Oh it gets better

this cannot be true! you can't just play for another district.. this isn't college its HS

Oh it’s true. And if I lived in NP I would be on the phone with section xi in a heartbeat

Don't believe it its all rumor she couldnbt get away with recruiting kids from other districts there are too many regulations to prevent this

Regulations don’t matter. The Northport AD has a daughter on Wright’s 2024 team. All of the free agents play or played on YJ teams. It must really stink for the girls getting pushed aside for the free agents. That’s gonna be one fun sideline this year the parents will be one happy family.

Parents were a mess before this, it can't be much worse

Yea

I hope some of these programs , NP, WH , that clearly break the rules on residency get caught and forfeit the season. At first I thought that would be overly harsh on the families that are not breaking the rules but they are lemmings to let this nonsense stand and hopefully get what they deserve as they know if these players have legit moved or if it’s some rental scam just to obtain residency .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hope some of these programs , NP, WH , that clearly break the rules on residency get caught and forfeit the season. At first I thought that would be overly harsh on the families that are not breaking the rules but they are lemmings to let this nonsense stand and hopefully get what they deserve as they know if these players have legit moved or if it’s some rental scam just to obtain residency .

I’m sure the parents of the kids being placed on the bench due to the free agents coming into town are not happy. All it will take is a phone call to Section 11 and they will investigate. Nothing like going from living on the water on the south shore to a basement apartment in Northport.

We got water views in Northport too!..If any one else wants to rent a Northport Apt, Ill get my garage ready

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We got water views in Northport too!..If any one else wants to rent a Northport Apt, Ill get my garage ready

Actually you seem desperate enough to move your own kid into the basement so the transfer gets the water view.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hope some of these programs , NP, WH , that clearly break the rules on residency get caught and forfeit the season. At first I thought that would be overly harsh on the families that are not breaking the rules but they are lemmings to let this nonsense stand and hopefully get what they deserve as they know if these players have legit moved or if it’s some rental scam just to obtain residency .

I’m sure the parents of the kids being placed on the bench due to the free agents coming into town are not happy. All it will take is a phone call to Section 11 and they will investigate. Nothing like going from living on the water on the south shore to a basement apartment in Northport.

Still fairly new to this but I thought school ball didn't matter s much as club ball. It's the clubs that mostly go to the showcases right? or am I wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hope some of these programs , NP, WH , that clearly break the rules on residency get caught and forfeit the season. At first I thought that would be overly harsh on the families that are not breaking the rules but they are lemmings to let this nonsense stand and hopefully get what they deserve as they know if these players have legit moved or if it’s some rental scam just to obtain residency .

I’m sure the parents of the kids being placed on the bench due to the free agents coming into town are not happy. All it will take is a phone call to Section 11 and they will investigate. Nothing like going from living on the water on the south shore to a basement apartment in Northport.

Still fairly new to this but I thought school ball didn't matter s much as club ball. It's the clubs that mostly go to the showcases right? or am I wrong?

CR pulling out all the stops! Maybe she will finally be able to win Class A now that WI is in B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hope some of these programs , NP, WH , that clearly break the rules on residency get caught and forfeit the season. At first I thought that would be overly harsh on the families that are not breaking the rules but they are lemmings to let this nonsense stand and hopefully get what they deserve as they know if these players have legit moved or if it’s some rental scam just to obtain residency .

I’m sure the parents of the kids being placed on the bench due to the free agents coming into town are not happy. All it will take is a phone call to Section 11 and they will investigate. Nothing like going from living on the water on the south shore to a basement apartment in Northport.

Still fairly new to this but I thought school ball didn't matter s much as club ball. It's the clubs that mostly go to the showcases right? or am I wrong?

CR pulling out all the stops! Maybe she will finally be able to win Class A now that WI is in B.

Assuming they get past West or Melville.

but why would WI be in B, dont the boys 2018 football team play in A still. Riddle me this, how can WI play football in A and girls lacrosse in B. Wait, does Norhtport play in the same league as Northport, remember that 28-0 trouncing. So why would the girls play in any different league or class as what the boys play football in, in that same year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I hope some of these programs , NP, WH , that clearly break the rules on residency get caught and forfeit the season. At first I thought that would be overly harsh on the families that are not breaking the rules but they are lemmings to let this nonsense stand and hopefully get what they deserve as they know if these players have legit moved or if it’s some rental scam just to obtain residency .

I’m sure the parents of the kids being placed on the bench due to the free agents coming into town are not happy. All it will take is a phone call to Section 11 and they will investigate. Nothing like going from living on the water on the south shore to a basement apartment in Northport.

Still fairly new to this but I thought school ball didn't matter s much as club ball. It's the clubs that mostly go to the showcases right? or am I wrong?

CR pulling out all the stops! Maybe she will finally be able to win Class A now that WI is in B.

Assuming they get past West or Melville.

but why would WI be in B, dont the boys 2018 football team play in A still. Riddle me this, how can WI play football in A and girls lacrosse in B. Wait, does Norhtport play in the same league as Northport, remember that 28-0 trouncing. So why would the girls play in any different league or class as what the boys play football in, in that same year
Classification is based on enrollment. Every sport has a different number based on how many teams in the sport. Has nothing to do with ability. Wi Girls are 14 kids short of staying in A. But so boys stay because different number of teams
They’re not happy about it. Would love to stay and play who they’ve been all along

WM best shot was last yr. I don’t see it happening for them. But sw is an awful group of thugs so let’s go patriots

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM best shot was last yr. I don’t see it happening for them. But sw is an awful group of thugs so let’s go patriots

Melville is done, A division is weak , NP favorite to win it .Riverhead is the 2 seed but they are a team full of over rated players who on paper should have won a bunch of state championships by now but in reality are just not very good . SW , SE are okay but no threat , MC is the only team with an upset chance but not likely. Put any of those teams in BCD and they are at best 5 .

Club ball matters more for recruitment. HS lax is where town and school pride plays a huge role. HS teams have traditions and teach so much more.
I am upset about CR doing this because it's not fair. Work with what you got. She is taking the girls on her team terrible lessons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club ball matters more for recruitment. HS lax is where town and school pride plays a huge role. HS teams have traditions and teach so much more.
I am upset about CR doing this because it's not fair. Work with what you got. She is taking the girls on her team terrible lessons.

Agreed what is being done is terrible. But this is a huge life lesson there is no loyalty as you move on in life. The days of loyalty have passed with many of our grandparents - and the morals they taught us. Shame yes, reality yes.

What is the official rule on residency? Is this girl a senior? When did she move in school? What's the schools rule on credits earned to graduate at school. Thought NYS had some rule on that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club ball matters more for recruitment. HS lax is where town and school pride plays a huge role. HS teams have traditions and teach so much more.
I am upset about CR doing this because it's not fair. Work with what you got. She is taking the girls on her team terrible lessons.

Agreed what is being done is terrible. But this is a huge life lesson there is no loyalty as you move on in life. The days of loyalty have passed with many of our grandparents - and the morals they taught us. Shame yes, reality yes.

What is the official rule on residency? Is this girl a senior? When did she move in school? What's the schools rule on credits earned to graduate at school. Thought NYS had some rule on that

Consider that perhaps this is a good life lesson. A young woman that has tremendous athletic talent and a chance to advance her education through lacrosse is having life difficulties off the field. Perhaps coach thinks she can be a positive influence, give her another chance to get things together and in the right direction. If it was just about winning, this could have been done dozens of times with previous great players from her club team. Maybe a bit of compassion and less cynicism...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club ball matters more for recruitment. HS lax is where town and school pride plays a huge role. HS teams have traditions and teach so much more.
I am upset about CR doing this because it's not fair. Work with what you got. She is taking the girls on her team terrible lessons.

Agreed what is being done is terrible. But this is a huge life lesson there is no loyalty as you move on in life. The days of loyalty have passed with many of our grandparents - and the morals they taught us. Shame yes, reality yes.

What is the official rule on residency? Is this girl a senior? When did she move in school? What's the schools rule on credits earned to graduate at school. Thought NYS had some rule on that

Consider that perhaps this is a good life lesson. A young woman that has tremendous athletic talent and a chance to advance her education through lacrosse is having life difficulties off the field. Perhaps coach thinks she can be a positive influence, give her another chance to get things together and in the right direction. If it was just about winning, this could have been done dozens of times with previous great players from her club team. Maybe a bit of compassion and less cynicism...

CR is and always has been a hammerhead. That’s why I love when my daughters team pounds the YJs to the ground every time we play. The look on her face=priceless

Agreed if she was the only one. But she isn't. How is that fair to the other schools that have to play NP? should all schools recruit players from out of district?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club ball matters more for recruitment. HS lax is where town and school pride plays a huge role. HS teams have traditions and teach so much more.
I am upset about CR doing this because it's not fair. Work with what you got. She is taking the girls on her team terrible lessons.

Agreed what is being done is terrible. But this is a huge life lesson there is no loyalty as you move on in life. The days of loyalty have passed with many of our grandparents - and the morals they taught us. Shame yes, reality yes.

What is the official rule on residency? Is this girl a senior? When did she move in school? What's the schools rule on credits earned to graduate at school. Thought NYS had some rule on that

Consider that perhaps this is a good life lesson. A young woman that has tremendous athletic talent and a chance to advance her education through lacrosse is having life difficulties off the field. Perhaps coach thinks she can be a positive influence, give her another chance to get things together and in the right direction. If it was just about winning, this could have been done dozens of times with previous great players from her club team. Maybe a bit of compassion and less cynicism...

Sorry but being given the opportunity for that embassador thing was a complete joke and makes a mockery of that award at the expense of the organization that gives it out. Not sure how getting around the rules of residency and showing a kid who has been given every opportunity at the expense of others that her actions have no consequences is a positive .CR and that kid have run out of compassion currency a long time ago, many times when you give an undeserving player another shot you do it at the expense of a deserving player. Example ; a player gets thrown off their high school team yet still makes school girls team one ( a prerequisite of school girls is playing school ball) taking a spot from some other deserving player . With that opportunity you act disgraceful .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM best shot was last yr. I don’t see it happening for them. But sw is an awful group of thugs so let’s go patriots

SE and SW will surprise with many young guns who will be making their mark.

CR represents everything that is wrong with youth sports. A disgrace, simply gross.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM best shot was last yr. I don’t see it happening for them. But sw is an awful group of thugs so let’s go patriots

SE and SW will surprise with many young guns who will be making their mark.

They are ranked 4 and 5 so not sure how surprising they will be .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM best shot was last yr. I don’t see it happening for them. But sw is an awful group of thugs so let’s go patriots

SE and SW will surprise with many young guns who will be making their mark.

We have been hearing that for years!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM best shot was last yr. I don’t see it happening for them. But sw is an awful group of thugs so let’s go patriots

SE and SW will surprise with many young guns who will be making their mark.

They are ranked 4 and 5 so not sure how surprising they will be .

because the rest of the division is a joke

Her NP lax ambassador really had a good weekend on social media. Never will see UNC or graduate from Rose H.S

Where are the rankings

Maybe this transfer can help the Northport girls enhance their shoplifting game. That alone should be worth a win or two if no one gets caught/suspended next time.

The roster pic's for NP s/b pretty neat...they wont need her to pose for a pix as I am sure they may have one already in the Post Office..or check with the 6th precinct...

Classification is done by sport based on teams competing in the entire state. So the pool of teams you are measured against maybe different for various sports ie, virtually every team in the state has a basketball team, not every school in the state fields a lacrosse team. That is why classification may be different across different sports. football being the exception because LI doesn't compete for the state championship so total teams are ordered large to small and then put in appropriate conference !-4 in both Nasau an Suffolk.

Now that’s funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club ball matters more for recruitment. HS lax is where town and school pride plays a huge role. HS teams have traditions and teach so much more.
I am upset about CR doing this because it's not fair. Work with what you got. She is taking the girls on her team terrible lessons.

Agreed what is being done is terrible. But this is a huge life lesson there is no loyalty as you move on in life. The days of loyalty have passed with many of our grandparents - and the morals they taught us. Shame yes, reality yes.

What is the official rule on residency? Is this girl a senior? When did she move in school? What's the schools rule on credits earned to graduate at school. Thought NYS had some rule on that

Consider that perhaps this is a good life lesson. A young woman that has tremendous athletic talent and a chance to advance her education through lacrosse is having life difficulties off the field. Perhaps coach thinks she can be a positive influence, give her another chance to get things together and in the right direction. If it was just about winning, this could have been done dozens of times with previous great players from her club team. Maybe a bit of compassion and less cynicism...

Most, if not all, parents aren't crazy enough to move or use a somebody elses address to play HS sports, except for the other YJ dope in Westhampton it doesn't happen when normal people are involved

CR Is the most powerful and connected coach in the country. She earns many times over what college coaches make plus she runs 8-10 tournaments and is a highly compensated LI teacher. The only program where the customer has to kiss the merchants butt and not visa versa

yeah, but is she getting any?

Yep. She’s laughing all the way to the bank. You think she cares what you stunads are saying on this forum. You can’t touch her but then again who would want to
quote=Anonymous]CR Is the most powerful and connected coach in the country. She earns many times over what college coaches make plus she runs 8-10 tournaments and is a highly compensated LI teacher. The only program where the customer has to kiss the merchants butt and not visa versa[/quote]

we just got our first note from the HS school coach talking about the "team family". What is doesn't mention is that she just finished another season as a high school age YJ coach and has already targeted YJ underclassmen for a call up. The family consists of those that pay to play and get a little preferential treatment on roster spots and playing time. I mean how could you play for the almighty YJ's and not be good enough to play varsity? She essentially HAS to pull these kids up. TOTAL conflict of interest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we just got our first note from the HS school coach talking about the "team family". What is doesn't mention is that she just finished another season as a high school age YJ coach and has already targeted YJ underclassmen for a call up. The family consists of those that pay to play and get a little preferential treatment on roster spots and playing time. I mean how could you play for the almighty YJ's and not be good enough to play varsity? She essentially HAS to pull these kids up. TOTAL conflict of interest.

Why does she have to pull them up ? Maybe they are just that much better than your kid and the coach wants to win .

Are the high school teams practicing already? Do most coaches have the girls get together over the winter?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the high school teams practicing already? Do most coaches have the girls get together over the winter?

Winter league starts in Suffolk next week, all the best HS programs will be getting at it.

Which teams are those?

Did you get a schedule? Are you talking about all-star in Selden?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you get a schedule? Are you talking about all-star in Selden?

There are two leagues, one in Selden and one in Deer Park. Some girls do both. The Deer Park (KK) league starts Monday featuring teams such as St. As, Northport, Mt. Sinai, Bayport, and Smithtown

[quote=Anonymous]Did you get a schedule? Are you talking about all-star in Selden?

The KK Athletics league on Monday nights.

[quote=Anonymous]Which teams are those?

Mt Sinai, Northport, Bayport , St Anthony's

Another of year of begging for players to play HS in our town has begun again because of weak coaching and ball hogs. The ball isn't shared so girls continue to quit. Our town has won nothing over the years so you would think they would change their thinking but instead we will have a couple of girls on the top of the Newsday scoring list and get bounced in the first round of playoffs again after ducking the competitive teams in the Nassau power conference. The cycle continues

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another of year of begging for players to play HS in our town has begun again because of weak coaching and ball hogs. The ball isn't shared so girls continue to quit. Our town has won nothing over the years so you would think they would change their thinking but instead we will have a couple of girls on the top of the Newsday scoring list and get bounced in the first round of playoffs again after ducking the competitive teams in the Nassau power conference. The cycle continues

Get an apartment in Northport they are always up for another free agent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another of year of begging for players to play HS in our town has begun again because of weak coaching and ball hogs. The ball isn't shared so girls continue to quit. Our town has won nothing over the years so you would think they would change their thinking but instead we will have a couple of girls on the top of the Newsday scoring list and get bounced in the first round of playoffs again after ducking the competitive teams in the Nassau power conference. The cycle continues

Get an apartment in Northport they are always up for another free agent.

That's really funny. I really hope that people take a stand against this unfair behavior

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another of year of begging for players to play HS in our town has begun again because of weak coaching and ball hogs. The ball isn't shared so girls continue to quit. Our town has won nothing over the years so you would think they would change their thinking but instead we will have a couple of girls on the top of the Newsday scoring list and get bounced in the first round of playoffs again after ducking the competitive teams in the Nassau power conference. The cycle continues

The problem is that many girls who play HS are not serious about it. They do it for fun, and are not very good. They regularly drop passes, are too slow, are terrible shooters. On the other hand, there are girls that are so highly skilled that they could play at the college level at 14. This creates a huge dichotomy. You need enough girls to field a team, but only a few can really play at a competitive level, so they "hog the ball", otherwise it would be turnover city. Not sure what the answer is, just my observation.

Thank you for your thoughts, your 14 yr old competing in college comment is laughable, but I'm sure your kid can do it. Is this Westhampton, riverhead or Mattituck?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for your thoughts, your 14 yr old competing in college comment is laughable, but I'm sure your kid can do it. Is this Westhampton, riverhead or Mattituck?

Hmmmm....Iv'e seen quite a few 14 year olds being the dominant players on their HS teams, beating girls committed to big programs, probably because they are talented and work hard, so east there!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for your thoughts, your 14 yr old competing in college comment is laughable, but I'm sure your kid can do it. Is this Westhampton, riverhead or Mattituck?

Hmmmm....Iv'e seen quite a few 14 year olds being the dominant players on their HS teams, beating girls committed to big programs, probably because they are talented and work hard, so east there!

Sound like a YJ jack off parent. My kid is better blah blah blah. Your kid can't keep up blah blah blah. I'm the president of the booster club blah blah blah.

It's a team game and when played right it's beautiful! Too many selfish parents leads to selfish go to goal kids which leads to recruiting and college talk which makes for BAD TEAMS. In the past, the best teams don't have any top 25 scorers because they pass the ball and they, wait for it......... make substitutions!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for your thoughts, your 14 yr old competing in college comment is laughable, but I'm sure your kid can do it. Is this Westhampton, riverhead or Mattituck?

Hmmmm....Iv'e seen quite a few 14 year olds being the dominant players on their HS teams, beating girls committed to big programs, probably because they are talented and work hard, so east there!

Sound like a YJ jack off parent. My kid is better blah blah blah. Your kid can't keep up blah blah blah. I'm the president of the booster club blah blah blah.

It's a team game and when played right it's beautiful! Too many selfish parents leads to selfish go to goal kids which leads to recruiting and college talk which makes for BAD TEAMS. In the past, the best teams don't have any top 25 scorers because they pass the ball and they, wait for it......... make substitutions!

You need a team who can catch and throw and run without dropping the ball. When girls constantly turn the ball over, or shoot weak shots to the goalies stick, nobody will pass to them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for your thoughts, your 14 yr old competing in college comment is laughable, but I'm sure your kid can do it. Is this Westhampton, riverhead or Mattituck?

You must be the cowardly dad who has a kid that is embarrassed of them because they know dad is a lost. Its always entertaining when you have a poster who clearly has a problem with a specific person or group of people and is too cowardly to speak directly with them so they hide behind a keyboard like the flaccid lost they are. I would guess your kid was not good enough to be moved up so you are just bitter, grow a pair and speak up.As for the 14 competing in college , thats just someone stirring the pot for you bunch of haters , so sad that you fell for it .

So whatever happened with DG getting fired? Was the booze story true? Any effect on her Liberty program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

was just gonna post this the YJ 2019 class is sick. serious schools my gawd. we are waiting til middles school to chose a serious club but hot dang.. this is a sick schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

was just gonna post this the YJ 2019 class is sick. serious schools my gawd. we are waiting til middles school to chose a serious club but hot dang.. this is a sick schools.

just to add, didn’t realize that sacred heart HS has a decent lax program and i presume a decent academic standing given the 2 Duke commits. We are in GC and family is pushing us to Sacred Heart but these property taxes on top of the tuition would be hard to swallow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

was just gonna post this the YJ 2019 class is sick. serious schools my gawd. we are waiting til middles school to chose a serious club but hot dang.. this is a sick schools.

just to add, didn’t realize that sacred heart HS has a decent lax program and i presume a decent academic standing given the 2 Duke commits. We are in GC and family is pushing us to Sacred Heart but these property taxes on top of the tuition would be hard to swallow.

Please, if you live in GC, you can afford the tuition to Sacred Heart.Period.

You have a choice to send your children there if you want. Don't use property taxes as an excuse. There are plenty of families on Long Island who really can't afford the tuition.

Either way your children with get a great education from GC or SH.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take a look at Yj 19 commits and then get back to us.

was just gonna post this the YJ 2019 class is sick. serious schools my gawd. we are waiting til middles school to chose a serious club but hot dang.. this is a sick schools.

just to add, didn’t realize that sacred heart HS has a decent lax program and i presume a decent academic standing given the 2 Duke commits. We are in GC and family is pushing us to Sacred Heart but these property taxes on top of the tuition would be hard to swallow.

SHA is a great school but so is GC, you don't go to Catholic school just for sports, my kids are at SA sometimes sports doesn't always work out. there is so much more to SHA than a good lax team but if your kid is happy in GC why move GC has a stellar rep when it comes to lax

You can look at the YJ club or any other for that matter. Overall 1.8% of all HS Varsity players get athletic scholarships in college. Lacrosse is one of the easiest paths to get money due to low youth enrollment numbers and because of the amount of colleges adding the sport. Plus when you compare to other sports, there are way more marginal players receiving athletic awards due to the shallow talent pool. There are very few super elite girls out there and a ton of very good ones. That's why once you get outside the top college schools the play drops off a cliff and in this sport top D2 and D3 teams could actually beat the bottom 50% of D1 schools.

Enjoy the ride. There will be opportunities for any girl that wants to continue to play in college. Not just YJ girls

the one thing i loved about laxpower was looking at the yearly records of the schools/colleges. This allowed me to attend a few games of schools (NJ/PA) I never heard of and show my daughter she was "Good enough" for college lacrosse. She now needed to be careful that she doesnt under sell herself or else it cold be less competitive than HS. Its not always about D1. if you can live with that then there is truly a place for everyone to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the one thing i loved about laxpower was looking at the yearly records of the schools/colleges. This allowed me to attend a few games of schools (NJ/PA) I never heard of and show my daughter she was "Good enough" for college lacrosse. She now needed to be careful that she doesnt under sell herself or else it cold be less competitive than HS. Its not always about D1. if you can live with that then there is truly a place for everyone to play.

I think your daughter and many would be shocked at how average low D1, D2 and D3 lax is. Everyone that wants to can play in college albeit most without any scholarship

Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the one thing i loved about laxpower was looking at the yearly records of the schools/colleges. This allowed me to attend a few games of schools (NJ/PA) I never heard of and show my daughter she was "Good enough" for college lacrosse. She now needed to be careful that she doesnt under sell herself or else it cold be less competitive than HS. Its not always about D1. if you can live with that then there is truly a place for everyone to play.

Actually a lot of that info is still on the Lax Power App. That seems to still have access to their databases. The website is down but try the app.

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Congrats she is the best of the best if she got $50k per year. but she is the top 5% of girls. The bottom 95% don't get anything near that amount if anything at all! PLus many schools aren't even fully funded so they don't use the full allotment of NCAA allowable scholarships. Most on this site talk about the very best of players and awards lets talk about the walk on's, the book money awards and the D'3 who get nothing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Congrats she is the best of the best if she got $50k per year. but she is the top 5% of girls. The bottom 95% don't get anything near that amount if anything at all! PLus many schools aren't even fully funded so they don't use the full allotment of NCAA allowable scholarships. Most on this site talk about the very best of players and awards lets talk about the walk on's, the book money awards and the D'3 who get nothing

More like top .5% or maybe even .1% or less will see that full or near full ride. Before people start crying, yes, full rides do exist. No, they are not common. But there is plenty of scholarship money out there, much more than original poster who doesn’t care about scholarships would think. If you do the math, for all fully funded programs, you will see most programs can give out 40-50% scholarships depending on roster size. If they give out one free ride, you need one kid at 0% or two kids taking 20-25% to offset that. Some would rather fair balance the offerings, but some let the money ride on the blue chips.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Nice story, but not buying it...anonymous website is a waste...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Nice story, but not buying it...anonymous website is a waste...

You would need significant academic and need based money to get to that number 99.99% of the time. Also not sure how 30-35 players share 11.6 scholarships and they all get 40-50%, hope your kids math is better than yours

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Nice story, but not buying it...anonymous website is a waste...

You would need significant academic and need based money to get to that number 99.99% of the time. Also not sure how 30-35 players share 11.6 scholarships and they all get 40-50%, hope your kids math is better than yours

Because there are a quite a few girls on the rosters that get 0. They either walk on, or their parents make so much money they don't need scholarship money and choose to allow the coaches to use it elsewhere. If only 25 of the girls are getting an average of 40% and 5-8 are getting 0 there you have it. Depends on the price of the school. Also remember the 40% of of the whole package not just tuition. A school like Hopkins, Duke, Georgetown,Northwestern can cost upwards of 80-90k for everything. Some kids may get 60-70% while others get 10-20%. Certainly not all that rare for a girl to get 40k - 50k scholarship. The parents may still be on the hook for 40-50k more.

I know some of you don't like facts and prefer to explain why your daughter only got 5% to go to Hofstra, but this is the truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Congrats she is the best of the best if she got $50k per year. but she is the top 5% of girls. The bottom 95% don't get anything near that amount if anything at all! PLus many schools aren't even fully funded so they don't use the full allotment of NCAA allowable scholarships. Most on this site talk about the very best of players and awards lets talk about the walk on's, the book money awards and the D'3 who get nothing

DIII gets plenty of money, it is called a Merit scholarship. Anyone that is an athlete and can qualify for the school can get support. My son is a good soccer player going to a solid DIII program and getting 1/3 merit money. Grades were very good but not outstanding. Not needs based as we do not qualify. Athletes at DIII programs, particularly those that care about athletics get money!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Nice story, but not buying it...anonymous website is a waste...

You would need significant academic and need based money to get to that number 99.99% of the time. Also not sure how 30-35 players share 11.6 scholarships and they all get 40-50%, hope your kids math is better than yours

Because there are a quite a few girls on the rosters that get 0. They either walk on, or their parents make so much money they don't need scholarship money and choose to allow the coaches to use it elsewhere. If only 25 of the girls are getting an average of 40% and 5-8 are getting 0 there you have it. Depends on the price of the school. Also remember the 40% of of the whole package not just tuition. A school like Hopkins, Duke, Georgetown,Northwestern can cost upwards of 80-90k for everything. Some kids may get 60-70% while others get 10-20%. Certainly not all that rare for a girl to get 40k - 50k scholarship. The parents may still be on the hook for 40-50k more.

I know some of you don't like facts and prefer to explain why your daughter only got 5% to go to Hofstra, but this is the truth.

I'm willing to bet the schools you listed have zero walk on players, but they do met all need, if you don't make a lot of money there is plenty of need based money, but please don't confuse it with scholarship money. What's included in that upwards of 90K cost of those schools? I have a kid at one of them, is there a tuition increase of 20K scheduled for next year that I wasn't told about? BTW most people with money didn't accumulate it by giving it away, I'm sure very few, if any, tell coaches that they don't want any scholarship money. That entire posts makes you sound very silly and uninformed

So all 5o Syracuse girls get money and their are no walk ons? There are a ton of low D1 and D2 schools that don't even get the allowable ncaa scholarship allotments meaning they aren't fully funded. So they are trying to lock up a roster of 28 with 7,8,9,10 scholarships. Go watch some games. The bottom teams in D1 are super average made up with girls that you would never believe are D1 athletes. If your kid wants to play there is definitely a place for her. do your homework

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about lax scholarships, they are not really that much money! Pick a great school with a team that your child has a chance of seeing the field.

Biggest help to the pocket is you are done with club lax![/quote

Why post if you are clueless. First off lax scholarships vary some being book money while others are 150-200k over the course of 4 years .Second if your child was recruited to a school they have a "chance" of seeing the field. Third maybe a player is happy to be a part of a team that is successful regardless of personal playing time.

completely agree on the above, have two daughters one started with little money and increased each year, the other started with over 50K. so please stop making these notIntelligent blanket statements

Nice story, but not buying it...anonymous website is a waste...

You would need significant academic and need based money to get to that number 99.99% of the time. Also not sure how 30-35 players share 11.6 scholarships and they all get 40-50%, hope your kids math is better than yours

Because there are a quite a few girls on the rosters that get 0. They either walk on, or their parents make so much money they don't need scholarship money and choose to allow the coaches to use it elsewhere. If only 25 of the girls are getting an average of 40% and 5-8 are getting 0 there you have it. Depends on the price of the school. Also remember the 40% of of the whole package not just tuition. A school like Hopkins, Duke, Georgetown,Northwestern can cost upwards of 80-90k for everything. Some kids may get 60-70% while others get 10-20%. Certainly not all that rare for a girl to get 40k - 50k scholarship. The parents may still be on the hook for 40-50k more.

I know some of you don't like facts and prefer to explain why your daughter only got 5% to go to Hofstra, but this is the truth.

I'm willing to bet the schools you listed have zero walk on players, but they do met all need, if you don't make a lot of money there is plenty of need based money, but please don't confuse it with scholarship money. What's included in that upwards of 90K cost of those schools? I have a kid at one of them, is there a tuition increase of 20K scheduled for next year that I wasn't told about? BTW most people with money didn't accumulate it by giving it away, I'm sure very few, if any, tell coaches that they don't want any scholarship money. That entire posts makes you sound very silly and uninformed

Again fake news, most teams have at least one walk on. Even to top ten programs, actually coaches love them because they are usually very smart (they go thorough admissions with no help) and therefore raise the team GPA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So all 5o Syracuse girls get money and their are no walk ons? There are a ton of low D1 and D2 schools that don't even get the allowable ncaa scholarship allotments meaning they aren't fully funded. So they are trying to lock up a roster of 28 with 7,8,9,10 scholarships. Go watch some games. The bottom teams in D1 are super average made up with girls that you would never believe are D1 athletes. If your kid wants to play there is definitely a place for her. do your homework

what? who said anything about syracuse

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

Old news

no one watches girl lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

Old news

Still just as disgusting .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

Old news

Still just as disgusting .

Agreed! A shame for the clearly deserving girls who were screwed by the typical politics of USLacrosse, a useless organization

Originally Posted by Anonymous

no one watches girl lacrosse

Why are you on girls lacrosse forum?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

no one watches girl lacrosse

Why are you on girls lacrosse forum?

Do you really need to ask that question. Obviously has a kid that plays who he thinks has not received the recognition they deserve so is bitter and wants to diminish the accomplishments of others to feel better about themselves. Sad .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

no one watches girl lacrosse

Why are you on girls lacrosse forum?

Do you really need to ask that question. Obviously has a kid that plays who he thinks has not received the recognition they deserve so is bitter and wants to diminish the accomplishments of others to feel better about themselves. Sad .

It was a rhetorical question.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

It is much worse than that....

Head Coach- Northwestern, all three assistants and the manager played for the head coach at Northwestern. One assistant is the head coach at U. Mass, one at Colorado and one at the Byrn Mawr School. The Manager is a Director for the Mass Elite club program. Of the current 34 player roster, the following have a direct relationship with one of the five coaches/manager:

Northwestern- 9
U Mass- 2
Colorado- 1
Bryn Mawr- 1
Mass Elite (not already counted above)- 3

So 16 of the 34 players have a direct relationship with the leadership of the U-19 team.

If that is not outrageous enough, the Mass Elite travel program has 6 players on the team. As a comparison, Yellow Jackets 3, M&D 2 and Skywalkers 1. No other club team had more than 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

It is much worse than that....

Head Coach- Northwestern, all three assistants and the manager played for the head coach at Northwestern. One assistant is the head coach at U. Mass, one at Colorado and one at the Byrn Mawr School. The Manager is a Director for the Mass Elite club program. Of the current 34 player roster, the following have a direct relationship with one of the five coaches/manager:

Northwestern- 9
U Mass- 2
Colorado- 1
Bryn Mawr- 1
Mass Elite (not already counted above)- 3

So 16 of the 34 players have a direct relationship with the leadership of the U-19 team.

If that is not outrageous enough, the Mass Elite travel program has 6 players on the team. As a comparison, Yellow Jackets 3, M&D 2 and Skywalkers 1. No other club team had more than 3.

Welcome to the real world, it's who you know...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

It is much worse than that....

Head Coach- Northwestern, all three assistants and the manager played for the head coach at Northwestern. One assistant is the head coach at U. Mass, one at Colorado and one at the Byrn Mawr School. The Manager is a Director for the Mass Elite club program. Of the current 34 player roster, the following have a direct relationship with one of the five coaches/manager:

Northwestern- 9
U Mass- 2
Colorado- 1
Bryn Mawr- 1
Mass Elite (not already counted above)- 3

So 16 of the 34 players have a direct relationship with the leadership of the U-19 team.

If that is not outrageous enough, the Mass Elite travel program has 6 players on the team. As a comparison, Yellow Jackets 3, M&D 2 and Skywalkers 1. No other club team had more than 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

It is much worse than that....

Head Coach- Northwestern, all three assistants and the manager played for the head coach at Northwestern. One assistant is the head coach at U. Mass, one at Colorado and one at the Byrn Mawr School. The Manager is a Director for the Mass Elite club program. Of the current 34 player roster, the following have a direct relationship with one of the five coaches/manager:

Northwestern- 9
U Mass- 2
Colorado- 1
Bryn Mawr- 1
Mass Elite (not already counted above)- 3

So 16 of the 34 players have a direct relationship with the leadership of the U-19 team.

If that is not outrageous enough, the Mass Elite travel program has 6 players on the team. As a comparison, Yellow Jackets 3, M&D 2 and Skywalkers 1. No other club team had more than 3.

This is absolutely disgusting! Shame on US Lacrosse for allowing this to happen. Makes a mockery of the sport.

Too bad JS didn’t coach U19.
He really knows talent!

These coaches made a mockery of the process!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too bad JS didn’t coach U19.
He really knows talent!

These coaches made a mockery of the process!

Would have been even worse he has already made a joke of the US team selections.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too bad JS didn’t coach U19.
He really knows talent!

These coaches made a mockery of the process!

Would have been even worse he has already made a joke of the US team selections.

He would have them playing box lacrosse prior to the season.......and then talk about himself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too bad JS didn’t coach U19.
He really knows talent!

These coaches made a mockery of the process!

Would have been even worse he has already made a joke of the US team selections.

He would have them playing box lacrosse prior to the season.......and then talk about himself.

And claiming championships he didn’t earn, and promoting his own mediocre kids with plenty of holding back and smoke and mirrors. Master of marketing, but can’t produce when it counts!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] 9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

It is much worse than that....

Head Coach- Northwestern, all three assistants and the manager played for the head coach at Northwestern. One assistant is the head coach at U. Mass, one at Colorado and one at the Byrn Mawr School. The Manager is a Director for the Mass Elite club program. Of the current 34 player roster, the following have a direct relationship with one of the five coaches/manager:

Northwestern- 9
U Mass- 2
Colorado- 1
Bryn Mawr- 1
Mass Elite (not already counted above)- 3

So 16 of the 34 players have a direct relationship with the leadership of the U-19 team.

If that is not outrageous enough, the Mass Elite travel program has 6 players on the team. As a comparison, Yellow Jackets 3, M&D 2 and Skywalkers 1. No other club team had more than 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9 Northwestern girls on the USA U19. Who’s the coach. That’s funny.

It is much worse than that....

Head Coach- Northwestern, all three assistants and the manager played for the head coach at Northwestern. One assistant is the head coach at U. Mass, one at Colorado and one at the Byrn Mawr School. The Manager is a Director for the Mass Elite club program. Of the current 34 player roster, the following have a direct relationship with one of the five coaches/manager:

Northwestern- 9
U Mass- 2
Colorado- 1
Bryn Mawr- 1
Mass Elite (not already counted above)- 3

So 16 of the 34 players have a direct relationship with the leadership of the U-19 team.

If that is not outrageous enough, the Mass Elite travel program has 6 players on the team. As a comparison, Yellow Jackets 3, M&D 2 and Skywalkers 1. No other club team had more than 3.

This is absolutely disgusting! Shame on US Lacrosse for allowing this to happen. Makes a mockery of the sport.

US Lacrosse is very weak. Look when they tried to implement an age change for youth lacrosse the Directors of the travel programs laughed at them. When soccer implemented an age change everyone complied. US Lacrosse doesn't have any power.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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This is absolutely disgusting! Shame on US Lacrosse for allowing this to happen. Makes a mockery of the sport.

US Lacrosse is very weak. Look when they tried to implement an age change for youth lacrosse the Directors of the travel programs laughed at them. When soccer implemented an age change everyone complied. US Lacrosse doesn't have any power.
[/quote]

You are absolutely right. Soccer has player cards and firm birthdate oversight. US Lax defers to club lax because they have all the power. All US lax wants is the player membership fee, that's it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[

This is absolutely disgusting! Shame on US Lacrosse for allowing this to happen. Makes a mockery of the sport.

US Lacrosse is very weak. Look when they tried to implement an age change for youth lacrosse the Directors of the travel programs laughed at them. When soccer implemented an age change everyone complied. US Lacrosse doesn't have any power.

You are absolutely right. Soccer has player cards and firm birthdate oversight. US Lax defers to club lax because they have all the power. All US lax wants is the player membership fee, that's it!
[/quote]

This is true, then the spend in on fake Team USA “tournament” that everyone knows is a joke. Only meaningful lax occurs on top 20 college D1 teams. I would give that “organization “ a dime

2021- club receiving emails from schools - school xyz form letter email “we are interested in the following athlete(s)”

Valid? Money grab for camps? Any insight from those who have been there is appreciated

[quote=Anonymous]2021- club receiving emails from schools - school xyz form letter email “we are interested in the following athlete(s)”

Valid? Money grab for camps? Any insight from those who have been there is appreciated

Money grab. Schools are taking advantage of the later commits. Have your daughter play with her club team this summer and if she performs well the interest will be there.

If a school your daughter is (very) interested in reaches out to your club director and says that they are interested, you are foolish not to go to their camp. For example, Duke and UVA make it clear that they recruit heavily from their camps. I am not saying that every school does and your club director can investigate this for you, but don't let a good opportunity to reciprocate interest pass you by. Even on a top team, you run the risk of your daughter not being in and/or playing poorly when her dream school is briefly watching next summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]2021- club receiving emails from schools - school xyz form letter email “we are interested in the following athlete(s)”

Valid? Money grab for camps? Any insight from those who have been there is appreciated

Money grab. Schools are taking advantage of the later commits. Have your daughter play with her club team this summer and if she performs well the interest will be there.

The emails from college coaches to club directors mentioning specific names are legit. Money grabs come in the form of an email blast announcing a camp/prospect day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]2021- club receiving emails from schools - school xyz form letter email “we are interested in the following athlete(s)”

Valid? Money grab for camps? Any insight from those who have been there is appreciated

Money grab. Schools are taking advantage of the later commits. Have your daughter play with her club team this summer and if she performs well the interest will be there.

The emails from college coaches to club directors mentioning specific names are legit. Money grabs come in the form of an email blast announcing a camp/prospect day.

Thats true to some degree, but if they email 20 club directors with 10 kids names on the list..pretty sure a lot of those kids would plan on going to that camp, since the school is interested...remember camps are a big source of their income...just be careful and pick the schools that fit your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If a school your daughter is (very) interested in reaches out to your club director and says that they are interested, you are foolish not to go to their camp. For example, Duke and UVA make it clear that they recruit heavily from their camps. I am not saying that every school does and your club director can investigate this for you, but don't let a good opportunity to reciprocate interest pass you by. Even on a top team, you run the risk of your daughter not being in and/or playing poorly when her dream school is briefly watching next summer.

While I agree if a school your daughter is interested in reaches out to your club director and tells them they have an interest in your daughter you would be doing your daughter a disservice by not going .Saying that Duke and UVA make it known that they recruit heavily from their camps is just not correct in my experiences with either one and have seen them at way too many summer tournaments to believe that to be true. Camps give both your daughter and the coach a much better chance to see if they are a good fit for one another.

Ok , so what teams are looking good during the winter indoor games ?

Duke was explicit in “the email” to club directors stating how many field players/goalies they are taking for 2021 and that they recruit heavily from camp - if not exclusively. I think possibly staying all but 1 recruit for 2020 attended camp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duke was explicit in “the email” to club directors stating how many field players/goalies they are taking for 2021 and that they recruit heavily from camp - if not exclusively. I think possibly staying all but 1 recruit for 2020 attended camp.

The Duke coach is terrible. Gets great kids develops none TRUST ME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duke was explicit in “the email” to club directors stating how many field players/goalies they are taking for 2021 and that they recruit heavily from camp - if not exclusively. I think possibly staying all but 1 recruit for 2020 attended camp.

Yes many players who are committed already attend the schools camps and many who they have expressed interest in attend the schools camp but they do not recruit exclusively from their camp. If you are a good enough player they will extend an offer regardless of if you went to their camp , if they are interested in you, going to their camp will show them you are also interested in them and help facilitate the process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duke was explicit in “the email” to club directors stating how many field players/goalies they are taking for 2021 and that they recruit heavily from camp - if not exclusively. I think possibly staying all but 1 recruit for 2020 attended camp.

The Duke coach is terrible. Gets great kids develops none TRUST ME

If the emails are factual, she would also seem to be a bit of a hypocrite.... indirectly contacting kids thru the club. After all she was supposedly a big proponent of the rule change.

If you do a little math Duke probably has around 1,000 kids at their overnight camps in the course of a year, at $600 each that's a nice part-time job if you can get it. Also, that is why virtually every club coach in the country gets the email from them that they're interested in the following 5-6 kids and would love to see them at camp - realistically less than 5% are really there to be seen by Duke and the rest are donating

Does anyone know when are High School schedules posted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know when are High School schedules posted?

They were posted a couple of weeks ago.

Section XI are available:

http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/schedules.asp?menu=

Here's a link to the 2019 Suffolk County Champions schedule

[quote=Anonymous]Section XI are available:

http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/schedules.asp?menu=

Here's a link to the 2019 Suffolk County Champions schedule

Great Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Does anyone know when are High School schedules posted?

They were posted a couple of weeks ago.

Is Nassau posted ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Does anyone know when are High School schedules posted?

They were posted a couple of weeks ago.

Is Nassau posted ?

this is the link to section 8 ... nothing posted yet

http://170.24.253.25/sportspak/oecgi3.exe/O4W_GAMES_SCHEDS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you do a little math Duke probably has around 1,000 kids at their overnight camps in the course of a year, at $600 each that's a nice part-time job if you can get it. Also, that is why virtually every club coach in the country gets the email from them that they're interested in the following 5-6 kids and would love to see them at camp - realistically less than 5% are really there to be seen by Duke and the rest are donating

100% accurate on 95% just making a donation for a fancy tee shirt or pinnie

anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Is there a place to view the Suffolk County 2019 Seedings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a place to view the Suffolk County 2019 Seedings?

Seedings for what? Suffolk classifications and schedules are based solely on enrollment - no power conferences, if that's what you mean.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

So who are the next best schools that didn't get in or asked not to be in? To be the best you need to play the best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a place to view the Suffolk County 2019 Seedings?

Seedings for what? Suffolk classifications and schedules are based solely on enrollment - no power conferences, if that's what you mean.

They still seed the schools within the Class. #1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

South Side over Plainedge that's surprising.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a place to view the Suffolk County 2019 Seedings?

Seedings for what? Suffolk classifications and schedules are based solely on enrollment - no power conferences, if that's what you mean.

Wrong. All NYS schools classifications are based on enrollment . In Suffolk the A division schools ( large schools) stay within their division for 14 of 16 games while the b,c,d division schools essentially form one division playing 14 of 16 games in that division. Those 14 games are decided based on your preseason seed with the higher seeded teams playing a greater number of the other higher ranked teams than a lower seeded team does. Here is where I may be mistaken but I believe in A it was NP, Riv, MC, SE, SW, WM. In B,C D I think it was ESM, Sinai, WB, BBP, WHB, WI, Matt. D1 is fairly weak and you end up w a lot of blowout games because after those 4 games the other teams really drop off . BCD is more competitive as this 6 games are all competitive then you have teams like RP, SWR, Sayville and a few others .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

South Side over Plainedge that's surprising.

Comes down to which coach asked to move up or cried to stay down. The louder one usually wins. The Nassau regular season power conference just is awesome. The top teams in the 2nd division will win 75% of their games by 10 or more goals. Such a waste just like in suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

South Side over Plainedge that's surprising.

Plainedge is lucky to have dodged that bullet, Southside in for a long season in that conference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

South Side over Plainedge that's surprising.

Plainedge is lucky to have dodged that bullet, Southside in for a long season in that conference

Kudos to SS for trying to play meaningful games. After the top couple of teams in the division below its like playing PAL teams. You don't get much out of games when you win by 15

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

South Side over Plainedge that's surprising.

Plainedge is lucky to have dodged that bullet, Southside in for a long season in that conference

Kudos to SS for trying to play meaningful games. After the top couple of teams in the division below its like playing PAL teams. You don't get much out of games when you win by 15

Southside HS always comes out with a lot of pride in ost sports. Glad to welcome them. We know of few of the girls on the team and I am sure they will be excited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a place to view the Suffolk County 2019 Seedings?

Seedings for what? Suffolk classifications and schedules are based solely on enrollment - no power conferences, if that's what you mean.

Wrong. All NYS schools classifications are based on enrollment . In Suffolk the A division schools ( large schools) stay within their division for 14 of 16 games while the b,c,d division schools essentially form one division playing 14 of 16 games in that division. Those 14 games are decided based on your preseason seed with the higher seeded teams playing a greater number of the other higher ranked teams than a lower seeded team does. Here is where I may be mistaken but I believe in A it was NP, Riv, MC, SE, SW, WM. In B,C D I think it was ESM, Sinai, WB, BBP, WHB, WI, Matt. D1 is fairly weak and you end up w a lot of blowout games because after those 4 games the other teams really drop off . BCD is more competitive as this 6 games are all competitive then you have teams like RP, SWR, Sayville and a few others .

Pretty fair assessment. But you can't lump RP and SWR in with teams like Sayville. RP beat them 12-4 with all of their subs playing quality minutes. I'm not saying RP is a top club, they are not. But, they are definitely a mid-tier club. As is SWR. Sayville would be grouped with Bellport, EBP, KP and Copaige in the lower tier. Just my opinion, but the biggest difference between top, middle and lower tiers is the number of high caliber players (players that can take over a game). The top teams have 2-3 of those types of players. They are a defensive nightmare. Mid-tiers may have one of those and one or two very good complimentary players. Those bottom tier teams have no true elite level talent. I'm not saying there are not good players on those squads, there definitely are. But, they lack depth and the dominant game-changers.

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Why didn't BBP attend this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Heard NP was missing their new secret weapon, looks like she will need to take charge of that group!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Heard NP was missing their new secret weapon, looks like she will need to take charge of that group!

Probably missed the team bus at NP high School because she was stuck in traffic on the commute from Massapequa.

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

South Side over Plainedge that's surprising.

Plainedge is lucky to have dodged that bullet, Southside in for a long season in that conference

Kudos to SS for trying to play meaningful games. After the top couple of teams in the division below its like playing PAL teams. You don't get much out of games when you win by 15

OR LOSE BY 20

All LI teams played well. Not 1 had a losing record. Great showing by all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

Pot stirring troll. Go away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Daughter played them this weekend. Coach is a hammerhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All LI teams played well. Not 1 had a losing record. Great showing by all.

That may be true, lots of tight games with mediocre competition(according to tourney machine). Unfortunately, the best teams weren’t there so calm down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All LI teams played well. Not 1 had a losing record. Great showing by all.

That may be true, lots of tight games with mediocre competition(according to tourney machine). Unfortunately, the best teams weren’t there so calm down.

By best teams whom are you referring to?

Who was missing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Daughter played them this weekend. Coach is a hammerhead.

Couple of questions , what team does your daughter play for ? What made the coach so annoying ? Your original comment still makes no sense . If you found the coach so annoying did you say anything to him ?

Because BBP is overrated

Okie Mr. Softee..let me explain my attempt at sarcasm....the girl who transferred to NP from Pequa apparently missed the game on Sunday--according to previous poster--thus I was trying to allude to the fact that she missed the game because she was looking at other HS's....so not a crack at Mattituck per se, but rather an attempt to say that because she has transferred a bunch of times looking for a spot to play, From Pequa to SA to Pequa to NP, that going to Mattituck was not out of the question...could have filled in any HS for that matter...
Ok?....

This site has become a swamp for anonymous key board tough guys to knock coaches , programs and worse kids. To the posters who are too cowardly to actually speak up to people when they are right in front of you but instead come onto this site to vent your frustration at yourself for being so cowardly , you must be so proud.
On a different note does anyone think the 7 on 7 indoor results translate at all to the regular outside game. Personally I say not much if at all but still a good event except for the reffing, did not cost us a game but they let the games get way too physical. Also anyone know why the ESM second round playoff game was ended early , just curious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okie Mr. Softee..let me explain my attempt at sarcasm....the girl who transferred to NP from Pequa apparently missed the game on Sunday--according to previous poster--thus I was trying to allude to the fact that she missed the game because she was looking at other HS's....so not a crack at Mattituck per se, but rather an attempt to say that because she has transferred a bunch of times looking for a spot to play, From Pequa to SA to Pequa to NP, that going to Mattituck was not out of the question...could have filled in any HS for that matter...
Ok?....

Punk. Worry about your own child. You are an A&$ H*#@.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This site has become a swamp for anonymous key board tough guys to knock coaches , programs and worse kids. To the posters who are too cowardly to actually speak up to people when they are right in front of you but instead come onto this site to vent your frustration at yourself for being so cowardly , you must be so proud.
On a different note does anyone think the 7 on 7 indoor results translate at all to the regular outside game. Personally I say not much if at all but still a good event except for the reffing, did not cost us a game but they let the games get way too physical. Also anyone know why the ESM second round playoff game was ended early , just curious.

Because a YJ thug purposefully hurt someone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This site has become a swamp for anonymous key board tough guys to knock coaches , programs and worse kids. To the posters who are too cowardly to actually speak up to people when they are right in front of you but instead come onto this site to vent your frustration at yourself for being so cowardly , you must be so proud.
On a different note does anyone think the 7 on 7 indoor results translate at all to the regular outside game. Personally I say not much if at all but still a good event except for the reffing, did not cost us a game but they let the games get way too physical. Also anyone know why the ESM second round playoff game was ended early , just curious.

Because a YJ thug purposefully hurt someone?

So you are saying a YJ Thug purposefully hurt someone yet they stopped the game to award the win to the YJ thugs team. That makes sense. That said I was surprised to see that ESM did virtually no subbing in the games I watched , I am amazed that kids and families would spend that amount of money and time to attend an off season event that is essentially supposed to be fun and promote the sport only to see your kid stand on the sideline. Honestly I get it during the actual varsity season in big games but at an off season event I am not sure how these coaches sleep at night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This site has become a swamp for anonymous key board tough guys to knock coaches , programs and worse kids. To the posters who are too cowardly to actually speak up to people when they are right in front of you but instead come onto this site to vent your frustration at yourself for being so cowardly , you must be so proud.
On a different note does anyone think the 7 on 7 indoor results translate at all to the regular outside game. Personally I say not much if at all but still a good event except for the reffing, did not cost us a game but they let the games get way too physical. Also anyone know why the ESM second round playoff game was ended early , just curious.

Yes I honestly think the game translates to regular season, clearly the two best teams made it to the final. BTW i am from Nassau!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Daughter played them this weekend. Coach is a hammerhead.

Couple of questions , what team does your daughter play for ? What made the coach so annoying ? Your original comment still makes no sense . If you found the coach so annoying did you say anything to him ?

We are from MD and played Mattituck this weekend. The coach was out on the field all the way down to the end line harassing the refs the whole game. The MD coaches aren't even allowed to coach their teams in things like this. Seemed a little over the top. No I didn't say anything to him, I was just a parent watching my daughter play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okie Mr. Softee..let me explain my attempt at sarcasm....the girl who transferred to NP from Pequa apparently missed the game on Sunday--according to previous poster--thus I was trying to allude to the fact that she missed the game because she was looking at other HS's....so not a crack at Mattituck per se, but rather an attempt to say that because she has transferred a bunch of times looking for a spot to play, From Pequa to SA to Pequa to NP, that going to Mattituck was not out of the question...could have filled in any HS for that matter...
Ok?....

You forgot the time at Fdale HS too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Daughter played them this weekend. Coach is a hammerhead.

Couple of questions , what team does your daughter play for ? What made the coach so annoying ? Your original comment still makes no sense . If you found the coach so annoying did you say anything to him ?

We are from MD and played Mattituck this weekend. The coach was out on the field all the way down to the end line harassing the refs the whole game. The MD coaches aren't even allowed to coach their teams in things like this. Seemed a little over the top. No I didn't say anything to him, I was just a parent watching my daughter play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Daughter played them this weekend. Coach is a hammerhead.

Couple of questions , what team does your daughter play for ? What made the coach so annoying ? Your original comment still makes no sense . If you found the coach so annoying did you say anything to him ?

We are from MD and played Mattituck this weekend. The coach was out on the field all the way down to the end line harassing the refs the whole game. The MD coaches aren't even allowed to coach their teams in things like this. Seemed a little over the top. No I didn't say anything to him, I was just a parent watching my daughter play.

So I looked at their schedule . Your coach was indeed at the event coaching just not standing on the sideline . Are you the parent or was it one of your kids teammates dads that was giving the female ref the middle finger in the game you lost. In case you are wondering I did say something to your out of control parent . Honestly if you are going to knock a coach for his/her behavior you may want to make sure you don’t have a parent giving the refs the finger and ending the game early while you just sit there afraid to speak up and tell these people their behavior is unacceptable .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okie Mr. Softee..let me explain my attempt at sarcasm....the girl who transferred to NP from Pequa apparently missed the game on Sunday--according to previous poster--thus I was trying to allude to the fact that she missed the game because she was looking at other HS's....so not a crack at Mattituck per se, but rather an attempt to say that because she has transferred a bunch of times looking for a spot to play, From Pequa to SA to Pequa to NP, that going to Mattituck was not out of the question...could have filled in any HS for that matter...
Ok?....

You forgot the time at Fdale HS too

You are right...My bad.......still has another year of HS left too....so Mattituck could still be in play...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Daughter played them this weekend. Coach is a hammerhead.

Couple of questions , what team does your daughter play for ? What made the coach so annoying ? Your original comment still makes no sense . If you found the coach so annoying did you say anything to him ?

We are from MD and played Mattituck this weekend. The coach was out on the field all the way down to the end line harassing the refs the whole game. The MD coaches aren't even allowed to coach their teams in things like this. Seemed a little over the top. No I didn't say anything to him, I was just a parent watching my daughter play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either that or she was getting a walk-through for Mattituck HS..

So you obviously have an issue with Mattituck HS . My daughters team has scrimmaged them many times and always says the players and coaches are nice and they are a good team. Got to meet one of the coaches this weekend. What exactly is your issue with them and I honestly dont understand your feeble attempt at sarcasm or humor.

Daughter played them this weekend. Coach is a hammerhead.

Couple of questions , what team does your daughter play for ? What made the coach so annoying ? Your original comment still makes no sense . If you found the coach so annoying did you say anything to him ?

We are from MD and played Mattituck this weekend. The coach was out on the field all the way down to the end line harassing the refs the whole game. The MD coaches aren't even allowed to coach their teams in things like this. Seemed a little over the top. No I didn't say anything to him, I was just a parent watching my daughter play.

So I looked at their schedule . Your coach was indeed at the event coaching just not standing on the sideline . Are you the parent or was it one of your kids teammates dads that was giving the female ref the middle finger in the game you lost. In case you are wondering I did say something to your out of control parent . Honestly if you are going to knock a coach for his/her behavior you may want to make sure you don’t have a parent giving the refs the finger and ending the game early while you just sit there afraid to speak up and tell these people their behavior is unacceptable .

Think you are confused. MD/DC schools don't allow HS coaches to coach at these things. Coaches are there but watching like everyone else. And not sure what you are referring to about a parent giving a ref the finger. We live in MD but daughter plays for Visitation which is in DC. Mattituck coach was a hammerhead. Stand by my comment. Sorry if it offends you.

"Think you are confused. MD/DC schools don't allow HS coaches to coach at these things. Coaches are there but watching like everyone else. And not sure what you are referring to about a parent giving a ref the finger. We live in MD but daughter plays for Visitation which is in DC. Mattituck coach was a hammerhead. Stand by my comment. Sorry if it offends you."

I am confused as to why some anonymous Maryland lost is not on the Maryland thread but decides to troll this one. Does not offend me at all just the interactions myself and daughter have had with the Mattituck team have been all good. Did not get to see your game but obviously must have been fun to watch a high school that graduates about 100 kids ( boys and girls total) and has not had lacrosse for very long beat your #5 ranked team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Think you are confused. MD/DC schools don't allow HS coaches to coach at these things. Coaches are there but watching like everyone else. And not sure what you are referring to about a parent giving a ref the finger. We live in MD but daughter plays for Visitation which is in DC. Mattituck coach was a hammerhead. Stand by my comment. Sorry if it offends you."

I am confused as to why some anonymous Maryland lost is not on the Maryland thread but decides to troll this one. Does not offend me at all just the interactions myself and daughter have had with the Mattituck team have been all good. Did not get to see your game but obviously must have been fun to watch a high school that graduates about 100 kids ( boys and girls total) and has not had lacrosse for very long beat your #5 ranked team.

Ouch...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okie Mr. Softee..let me explain my attempt at sarcasm....the girl who transferred to NP from Pequa apparently missed the game on Sunday--according to previous poster--thus I was trying to allude to the fact that she missed the game because she was looking at other HS's....so not a crack at Mattituck per se, but rather an attempt to say that because she has transferred a bunch of times looking for a spot to play, From Pequa to SA to Pequa to NP, that going to Mattituck was not out of the question...could have filled in any HS for that matter...
Ok?....

You forgot the time at Fdale HS too

You are right...My bad.......still has another year of HS left too....so Mattituck could still be in play...

Westhampton can use another player, they have no issue with silly things like living in the district

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Think you are confused. MD/DC schools don't allow HS coaches to coach at these things. Coaches are there but watching like everyone else. And not sure what you are referring to about a parent giving a ref the finger. We live in MD but daughter plays for Visitation which is in DC. Mattituck coach was a hammerhead. Stand by my comment. Sorry if it offends you."

I am confused as to why some anonymous Maryland lost is not on the Maryland thread but decides to troll this one. Does not offend me at all just the interactions myself and daughter have had with the Mattituck team have been all good. Did not get to see your game but obviously must have been fun to watch a high school that graduates about 100 kids ( boys and girls total) and has not had lacrosse for very long beat your #5 ranked team.

LOL. good one. Had we had our actual team there that may mean something. But since this is well, indoor, and in the middle of basketball season, we sent what we had available. I have no issue with the mattituck team. Just made a truthful statement that he coach spent 2/3 of the game out on the field yelling at the refs in a game no one really cares about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okie Mr. Softee..let me explain my attempt at sarcasm....the girl who transferred to NP from Pequa apparently missed the game on Sunday--according to previous poster--thus I was trying to allude to the fact that she missed the game because she was looking at other HS's....so not a crack at Mattituck per se, but rather an attempt to say that because she has transferred a bunch of times looking for a spot to play, From Pequa to SA to Pequa to NP, that going to Mattituck was not out of the question...could have filled in any HS for that matter...
Ok?....

You forgot the time at Fdale HS too

You are right...My bad.......still has another year of HS left too....so Mattituck could still be in play...

Why do any of you losers concern yourselves with children other than your own? I am guessing you are the type who just can't wait for children to fail or not live up to the hype that others have put on them. I would also bet that you try to tear down every player that is considered better than your daughter. Hope you do not pass your small minded, bitter jealous attitude to your children.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okie Mr. Softee..let me explain my attempt at sarcasm....the girl who transferred to NP from Pequa apparently missed the game on Sunday--according to previous poster--thus I was trying to allude to the fact that she missed the game because she was looking at other HS's....so not a crack at Mattituck per se, but rather an attempt to say that because she has transferred a bunch of times looking for a spot to play, From Pequa to SA to Pequa to NP, that going to Mattituck was not out of the question...could have filled in any HS for that matter...
Ok?....

You forgot the time at Fdale HS too

You are right...My bad.......still has another year of HS left too....so Mattituck could still be in play...

Why do any of you losers concern yourselves with children other than your own? I am guessing you are the type who just can't wait for children to fail or not live up to the hype that others have put on them. I would also bet that you try to tear down every player that is considered better than your daughter. Hope you do not pass your small minded, bitter jealous attitude to your children.

AMEN!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Heard NP was missing their new secret weapon, looks like she will need to take charge of that group!

Don't worry about NPT. They have some much returning talent and transfers that Coach Rose can't even screw it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Think you are confused. MD/DC schools don't allow HS coaches to coach at these things. Coaches are there but watching like everyone else. And not sure what you are referring to about a parent giving a ref the finger. We live in MD but daughter plays for Visitation which is in DC. Mattituck coach was a hammerhead. Stand by my comment. Sorry if it offends you."

I am confused as to why some anonymous Maryland lost is not on the Maryland thread but decides to troll this one. Does not offend me at all just the interactions myself and daughter have had with the Mattituck team have been all good. Did not get to see your game but obviously must have been fun to watch a high school that graduates about 100 kids ( boys and girls total) and has not had lacrosse for very long beat your #5 ranked team.

LOL. good one. Had we had our actual team there that may mean something. But since this is well, indoor, and in the middle of basketball season, we sent what we had available. I have no issue with the mattituck team. Just made a truthful statement that he coach spent 2/3 of the game out on the field yelling at the refs in a game no one really cares about.

Excues,excues...if you didnt care about the game, why bother going?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This site has become a swamp for anonymous key board tough guys to knock coaches , programs and worse kids. To the posters who are too cowardly to actually speak up to people when they are right in front of you but instead come onto this site to vent your frustration at yourself for being so cowardly, you must be so proud.
On a different note does anyone think the 7 on 7 indoor results translate at all to the regular outside game. Personally I say not much if at all but still a good event except for the reffing, did not cost us a game but they let the games get way too physical. Also anyone know why the ESM second round playoff game was ended early , just curious.

Because a YJ player purposefully hurt someone?

Quite the contrary...A Catholic school from Maryland along with the parents were acting like thugs. Pretty embarrassing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Heard NP was missing their new secret weapon, looks like she will need to take charge of that group!

Don't worry about NPT. They have some much returning talent and transfers that Coach Rose can't even screw it up.

The new girl will be the whole team. A few others are good, not great.

It was that or go furniture shopping at Wal-Mart

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Heard NP was missing their new secret weapon, looks like she will need to take charge of that group!

Don't worry about NPT. They have some much returning talent and transfers that Coach Rose can't even screw it up.

The new girl will be the whole team. A few others are good, not great.
Oh that’s rich lmao. She got shut down in every massapequa game that was worth watching. They have far more talent than this one. Cr just trying to polish a tarnished reputation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Think you are confused. MD/DC schools don't allow HS coaches to coach at these things. Coaches are there but watching like everyone else. And not sure what you are referring to about a parent giving a ref the finger. We live in MD but daughter plays for Visitation which is in DC. Mattituck coach was a hammerhead. Stand by my comment. Sorry if it offends you."

I am confused as to why some anonymous Maryland lost is not on the Maryland thread but decides to troll this one. Does not offend me at all just the interactions myself and daughter have had with the Mattituck team have been all good. Did not get to see your game but obviously must have been fun to watch a high school that graduates about 100 kids ( boys and girls total) and has not had lacrosse for very long beat your #5 ranked team.

LOL. good one. Had we had our actual team there that may mean something. But since this is well, indoor, and in the middle of basketball season, we sent what we had available. I have no issue with the mattituck team. Just made a truthful statement that he coach spent 2/3 of the game out on the field yelling at the refs in a game no one really cares about.

Still trolling? So i guess you are saying your better players were not there? You make it way too easy ,check of your roster vs last years stats , what do you know your leading scorer was there along with many of your returning starters. What they say about excuses seems to be true of these Maryland teams parents , everyone has one and your teams seems to be you. That said ,as you will see in my first post , the reffing was terrible and they let the games get out of control so maybe if more coaches voiced their opinion they would do a better job.Generally hate the load mouth coach but have seen him before and cant say i have seen that.Now go crawl back under the swamp of a town you are from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! ESM really handled Mt. Sinai yesterday! Northrop looked terrible!

so you stayed until the end? looks like your ESM girls played great. how did NP look so bad, they beat NDP, and lost a close game to Mt. Sinai according to scoreboard. 5 of the 8 bracket winners were LI teams (garden City, ESM, Riverhead, Mt.Sinai, Northport), great to see,

Heard NP was missing their new secret weapon, looks like she will need to take charge of that group!

Don't worry about NPT. They have some much returning talent and transfers that Coach Rose can't even screw it up.

The new girl will be the whole team. A few others are good, not great

What's the matter, getting nervous that your little Sally will be overshadowed by the new girl? Will be fun to watch you stomping around cursing on the sidelines!

They are coached by one of the best coaches in the game.

So the trolls on this site are still going to anonymously attack kids , coaches , teams because they are too cowardly to speak their minds in person . In the end you have to feel bad for them as I can’t imagine going thru life being such a coward. Now for some predictions in Suffolk.
A division .
It’s Northports division to win . They have 4 players who would probably be the top player on every other team in the division. There problem may be the game is played with 1 ball and they have a lot of mouths to feed. CR will have no excuses this year and if she does not get the job done it’s on her. I believe they go on to win the whole thing this year.

Either Middle Country or Riverhead should make the finals . These two teams are essentially a toss up with Riverhead being a team full of good players while Middle Country may not be as deep but are better at the draw. I think Riverhead finds a way to get it done and make the finals .

Smithtown East ; Smithtown West ; Ward Melville will all be in the mix but just don’t have the horsepower.

Feel free to pick apart the above it’s just a guess . Will do B division later .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So the trolls on this site are still going to anonymously attack kids , coaches , teams because they are too cowardly to speak their minds in person . In the end you have to feel bad for them as I can’t imagine going thru life being such a coward. Now for some predictions in Suffolk.
A division .
It’s Northports division to win . They have 4 players who would probably be the top player on every other team in the division. There problem may be the game is played with 1 ball and they have a lot of mouths to feed. CR will have no excuses this year and if she does not get the job done it’s on her. I believe they go on to win the whole thing this year.

Either Middle Country or Riverhead should make the finals . These two teams are essentially a toss up with Riverhead being a team full of good players while Middle Country may not be as deep but are better at the draw. I think Riverhead finds a way to get it done and make the finals .

Smithtown East ; Smithtown West ; Ward Melville will all be in the mix but just don’t have the horsepower.

Feel free to pick apart the above it’s just a guess . Will do B division later .

Why are West Islip Girls dropping to "B" but the WI Boys are still playing in "A"?

Agree, NP should win "A" without much trouble. Smithtown East and Riverhead should make the Final Four. Not sure who else has a chance.

At a certain point, as your kid gets later into HS, all this shouldn't matter to you. Focus on your kid (not just the lacrosse, especially not the lacrosse), and keep them moving forward (and enjoy them). Plenty of girls out there who didn't even start on their HS team ever and went on to good college careers (and still many who were committed to playing in college didn't for whatever the reason) and more importantly, they got their educations and moved into their careers as well adjusted adults (lessons learned in sports no matter your role, have so many positive consequences as an adult and how many adults really put any salt into how much they did or didn't play in their own HS sport, only thing that matters now is that they played back in HS).

Think about it in a few years, this is all over. Get over the bitterness and enjoy it (and your kid as a young adult) before it's over and they are out of the house.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At a certain point, as your kid gets later into HS, all this shouldn't matter to you. Focus on your kid (not just the lacrosse, especially not the lacrosse), and keep them moving forward (and enjoy them). Plenty of girls out there who didn't even start on their HS team ever and went on to good college careers (and still many who were committed to playing in college didn't for whatever the reason) and more importantly, they got their educations and moved into their careers as well adjusted adults (lessons learned in sports no matter your role, have so many positive consequences as an adult and how many adults really put any salt into how much they did or didn't play in their own HS sport, only thing that matters now is that they played back in HS).

Think about it in a few years, this is all over. Get over the bitterness and enjoy it (and your kid as a young adult) before it's over and they are out of the house.

This is the High School Lacrosse Thread... shouldn't we be taking about High School Lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So the trolls on this site are still going to anonymously attack kids , coaches , teams because they are too cowardly to speak their minds in person . In the end you have to feel bad for them as I can’t imagine going thru life being such a coward. Now for some predictions in Suffolk.
A division .
It’s Northports division to win . They have 4 players who would probably be the top player on every other team in the division. There problem may be the game is played with 1 ball and they have a lot of mouths to feed. CR will have no excuses this year and if she does not get the job done it’s on her. I believe they go on to win the whole thing this year.

Either Middle Country or Riverhead should make the finals . These two teams are essentially a toss up with Riverhead being a team full of good players while Middle Country may not be as deep but are better at the draw. I think Riverhead finds a way to get it done and make the finals .

Smithtown East ; Smithtown West ; Ward Melville will all be in the mix but just don’t have the horsepower.

Feel free to pick apart the above it’s just a guess . Will do B division later .

Why are West Islip Girls dropping to "B" but the WI Boys are still playing in "A"?

Agree, NP should win "A" without much trouble. Smithtown East and Riverhead should make the Final Four. Not sure who else has a chance.

What happened to A division lacrosse in Suffolk? Any way, NP will not win, they will blow it because CR can't really manage a team. Fantastic business woman, but bad coach. Theoretically, NP should win every year if CR was a good coach. Every kid that plays there has to/does play play YJ, meaning she is coaching these girls no less than 3/4 of the year in a place that is a lacrosse haven, but still has only won 2 or 3 Islands and only 2 states in a 25+ year career. Theoretically, that horrendous for a coach that has had that much talent pass through her hands.

Enrollment dropped in wi. I think they’re short by 15 students. So girls drop to b division. Boys stay because it’s based on the number of teams.

You’re all underestimating Smithtown West. Don’t sleep on them this year...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all underestimating Smithtown West. Don’t sleep on them this year...

Who even plays for Smithtown West?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all underestimating Smithtown West. Don’t sleep on them this year...

Who even plays for Smithtown West?

Nobody

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrollment dropped in wi. I think they’re short by 15 students. So girls drop to b division. Boys stay because it’s based on the number of teams.

# of teams my Arse. they didnt drop because they couldnt compete in B. or maybe the enrollment threshold is different for boys than girls?

Girls Boys
1075+ = A 1050+ = A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrollment dropped in wi. I think they’re short by 15 students. So girls drop to b division. Boys stay because it’s based on the number of teams.

# of teams my Arse. they didnt drop because they couldnt compete in B. or maybe the enrollment threshold is different for boys than girls?

Girls Boys
1075+ = A 1050+ = A

Yes that’s what I was saying. Numbers are different for girls

Exactly. Tons of Depth at every position. All team players. No "I" on this team. You heard it here first

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrollment dropped in wi. I think they’re short by 15 students. So girls drop to b division. Boys stay because it’s based on the number of teams.

West Islip girls schedule made tougher going from Division A to B. I would think they'd be the underdog versus West Hamp, BBP, Mt Sinai, ESM, Mattituck and West Bab? Throw in Harborfields, East Islip and RP and they've got themselves one of the toughest schedules out there.

TELL THAT TO THE BIG FAT BALD GUY IN THE WI STANDS !!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait, isn't that most of the WI Dad's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Enrollment dropped in wi. I think they’re short by 15 students. So girls drop to b division. Boys stay because it’s based on the number of teams.

West Islip girls schedule made tougher going from Division A to B. I would think they'd be the underdog versus West Hamp, BBP, Mt Sinai, ESM, Mattituck and West Bab? Throw in Harborfields, East Islip and RP and they've got themselves one of the toughest schedules out there.

Now Pequa can win counties without having to contend with WI

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

It is the guy in the WI stands that thinks he knows everything about the game and does not shut his mouth the entire game and best of all he is so far up the coaches butt it is SAD .... Other then that good luck with the season. I am glad my daughter is away from that

"Exactly. Tons of Depth at every position. All team players. No "I" on this team. You heard it here first"

⬆️ Pot- stirrrer lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

West Islip could have as many as [6] losses with their schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all underestimating Smithtown West. Don’t sleep on them this year...

SW always puts a solid team on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So the trolls on this site are still going to anonymously attack kids , coaches , teams because they are too cowardly to speak their minds in person . In the end you have to feel bad for them as I can’t imagine going thru life being such a coward. Now for some predictions in Suffolk.
A division .
It’s Northports division to win . They have 4 players who would probably be the top player on every other team in the division. There problem may be the game is played with 1 ball and they have a lot of mouths to feed. CR will have no excuses this year and if she does not get the job done it’s on her. I believe they go on to win the whole thing this year.

Either Middle Country or Riverhead should make the finals . These two teams are essentially a toss up with Riverhead being a team full of good players while Middle Country may not be as deep but are better at the draw. I think Riverhead finds a way to get it done and make the finals .

Smithtown East ; Smithtown West ; Ward Melville will all be in the mix but just don’t have the horsepower.

Feel free to pick apart the above it’s just a guess . Will do B division later .

Why are West Islip Girls dropping to "B" but the WI Boys are still playing in "A"?

Agree, NP should win "A" without much trouble. Smithtown East and Riverhead should make the Final Four. Not sure who else has a chance.

What happened to A division lacrosse in Suffolk? Any way, NP will not win, they will blow it because CR can't really manage a team. Fantastic business woman, but bad coach. Theoretically, NP should win every year if CR was a good coach. Every kid that plays there has to/does play play YJ, meaning she is coaching these girls no less than 3/4 of the year in a place that is a lacrosse haven, but still has only won 2 or 3 Islands and only 2 states in a 25+ year career. Theoretically, that horrendous for a coach that has had that much talent pass through her hands.

What new talent did NP pick up this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anyone know who is in the Nassau power conference this year?

Same as last year Oceanside out, South Side in

South Side over Plainedge that's surprising.

Comes down to which coach asked to move up or cried to stay down. The louder one usually wins. The Nassau regular season power conference just is awesome. The top teams in the 2nd division will win 75% of their games by 10 or more goals. Such a waste just like in suffolk

Who is going to be the top A team in Nassau?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So the trolls on this site are still going to anonymously attack kids , coaches , teams because they are too cowardly to speak their minds in person . In the end you have to feel bad for them as I can’t imagine going thru life being such a coward. Now for some predictions in Suffolk.
A division .
It’s Northports division to win . They have 4 players who would probably be the top player on every other team in the division. There problem may be the game is played with 1 ball and they have a lot of mouths to feed. CR will have no excuses this year and if she does not get the job done it’s on her. I believe they go on to win the whole thing this year.

Either Middle Country or Riverhead should make the finals . These two teams are essentially a toss up with Riverhead being a team full of good players while Middle Country may not be as deep but are better at the draw. I think Riverhead finds a way to get it done and make the finals .

Smithtown East ; Smithtown West ; Ward Melville will all be in the mix but just don’t have the horsepower.

Feel free to pick apart the above it’s just a guess . Will do B division later .

Why are West Islip Girls dropping to "B" but the WI Boys are still playing in "A"?

Agree, NP should win "A" without much trouble. Smithtown East and Riverhead should make the Final Four. Not sure who else has a chance.

What happened to A division lacrosse in Suffolk? Any way, NP will not win, they will blow it because CR can't really manage a team. Fantastic business woman, but bad coach. Theoretically, NP should win every year if CR was a good coach. Every kid that plays there has to/does play play YJ, meaning she is coaching these girls no less than 3/4 of the year in a place that is a lacrosse haven, but still has only won 2 or 3 Islands and only 2 states in a 25+ year career. Theoretically, that horrendous for a coach that has had that much talent pass through her hands.

What new talent did NP pick up this year?

A Gypsey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrollment dropped in wi. I think they’re short by 15 students. So girls drop to b division. Boys stay because it’s based on the number of teams.

West Islip girls schedule made tougher going from Division A to B. I would think they'd be the underdog versus West Hamp, BBP, Mt Sinai, ESM, Mattituck and West Bab? Throw in Harborfields, East Islip and RP and they've got themselves one of the toughest schedules out there.

Schedule is way more difficult. A is soft, and has been for some time now. WI has benefited greatly playing in that division. let’s see how they fair in what is the toughest division in the country. The days of advancing through the playoffs are over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all underestimating Smithtown West. Don’t sleep on them this year...

SW always puts a solid team on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]You’re all underestimating Smithtown West. Don’t sleep on them this year...[/quote
Hahahaha. Solid. Yes. The flopper that racke up yellow cards. The other two who are thugs. Maybe under a new coach they will prosper

SW always puts a solid team on the field.

supposedly wi graduated 8 starters. have some talent but will not make the playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

supposedly wi graduated 8 starters. have some talent but will not make the playoffs

Supposedly you have no idea what you are talking about . Did not graduate 8 starters and top 5 teams in B make the playoffs , 1 of them will be WI .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

supposedly wi graduated 8 starters. have some talent but will not make the playoffs

Supposedly you have no idea what you are talking about . Did not graduate 8 starters and top 5 teams in B make the playoffs , 1 of them will be WI .

Actually I know exactly what I’m talking about. Lefty attack. Junior mid. Senior mid. Only three that started Not one other girl got any significant playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

supposedly wi graduated 8 starters. have some talent but will not make the playoffs

Supposedly you have no idea what you are talking about . Did not graduate 8 starters and top 5 teams in B make the playoffs , 1 of them will be WI .

Actually I know exactly what I’m talking about. Lefty attack. Junior mid. Senior mid. Only three that started Not one other girl got any significant playing time.

Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

until they get to The Island Championship then either G.C. or 'set will send them home ....... again, but keep pounding your chest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

until they get to The Island Championship then either G.C. or 'set will send them home ....... again, but keep pounding your chest

LOL Got em. Any one know when the Gains for Brain teams are annoonced?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

until they get to The Island Championship then either G.C. or 'set will send them home ....... again, but keep pounding your chest

Ain't that the truth!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

until they get to The Island Championship then either G.C. or 'set will send them home ....... again, but keep pounding your chest

Ain't that the truth!!

I dont kno. Gc sent packing at indoor when Esm took it home

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

until they get to The Island Championship then either G.C. or 'set will send them home ....... again, but keep pounding your chest

Ain't that the truth!!

I dont kno. Gc sent packing at indoor when Esm took it home

LOL indoor

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

until they get to The Island Championship then either G.C. or 'set will send them home ....... again, but keep pounding your chest

Ain't that the truth!!

I dont kno. Gc sent packing at indoor when Esm took it home

That and 1 championship in the last 20 years makes ESM..........nothing

A team on the rise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B division
Seems like its a 3 team race with ESM, WB, WI.
I think WI will see that life in the B,C,D is no easy task and being unfamiliar with many of the teams will make for a difficult regular season. That said the coach is very good so come playoff time they will be dangerous but I think will need to go thru both ESM and WB and that will be too much to ask.
ESM will be the popular vote here returning alot of senior leadership and will be strong at every position with kids sitting on the bench that would be starters on just about every other team. The problem for this team will be more about if the individual players would rather score than win, not the best team at sharing the ball .
WB , still very young but with some solid seniors leading the way. The are not nearly as deep as ESM and will need several younger players to contribute but I like their chances as they return essentially their whole team minus the goalie. When the playoffs roll around this year I think the coaches of WB will have the edge and win the B.
Will do the most interesting division next C.

ESM will take it all!

until they get to The Island Championship then either G.C. or 'set will send them home ....... again, but keep pounding your chest

Ain't that the truth!!

I dont kno. Gc sent packing at indoor when Esm took it home

Respectfully, once Garden City was brought into the conversation you should have just moved on. Garden City has won 15 of the 24 class B state titles. 2 of the last 5, 6 of the last 10 for those that want recent history....

https://grownandflown.com/teens-activities-came-first/

Thank You. We will never get these days back.

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

^^ Reminds me of this...

" At some point in your childhood you and your friends went outside to play together for the last time, and nobody knew it"

Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

So let me get this right, you think there is some importance ranking girls High School Lacrosse pre season? I think it's plainly obvious to everyone that Copaigue, should not be playing Northport at any point during the season, but aside from that, rankings mean nothing except to stroke the egos of coaches and parents. As far as speculating the outcome of any future Girls High school lacrosse game, yah it's pretty notIntelligent, what are you doing handicapping your bet? If anyone should "get over themselves" it's you, here is your speculations to the outcome of the season, unless your Daughter is in Garden City, Farmingdale, SWR, or Mt Sinai or Manhasset your probably not going to win the Island or the state, so make your bets carefully

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

So let me get this right, you think there is some importance ranking girls High School Lacrosse pre season? I think it's plainly obvious to everyone that Copaigue, should not be playing Northport at any point during the season, but aside from that, rankings mean nothing except to stroke the egos of coaches and parents. As far as speculating the outcome of any future Girls High school lacrosse game, yah it's pretty notIntelligent, what are you doing handicapping your bet? If anyone should "get over themselves" it's you, here is your speculations to the outcome of the season, unless your Daughter is in Garden City, Farmingdale, SWR, or Mt Sinai or Manhasset your probably not going to win the Island or the state, so make your bets carefully

Wow ,did you take a time machine from the past, SWR, Farmingdale lol. You obviously are clueless with the current teams playing on LI. Again its a high school girls lacrosse forum talking about what teams will be successful in the upcoming season would be something that most non mental midgets should expect. What is even funnier is given your strange obsession about not posting predictions you then go on to make a prediction about the season ,hello Ms. Dorsett.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

So let me get this right, you think there is some importance ranking girls High School Lacrosse pre season? I think it's plainly obvious to everyone that Copaigue, should not be playing Northport at any point during the season, but aside from that, rankings mean nothing except to stroke the egos of coaches and parents. As far as speculating the outcome of any future Girls High school lacrosse game, yah it's pretty notIntelligent, what are you doing handicapping your bet? If anyone should "get over themselves" it's you, here is your speculations to the outcome of the season, unless your Daughter is in Garden City, Farmingdale, SWR, or Mt Sinai or Manhasset your probably not going to win the Island or the state, so make your bets carefully

Wow ,did you take a time machine from the past, SWR, Farmingdale lol. You obviously are clueless with the current teams playing on LI. Again its a high school girls lacrosse forum talking about what teams will be successful in the upcoming season would be something that most non mental midgets should expect. What is even funnier is given your strange obsession about not posting predictions you then go on to make a prediction about the season ,hello Ms. Dorsett.

Hey Dumb Dumb , those are the teams tag have historically won in all divisions, no real prediction there. just the laws of averages. Personally who cares anyway. but since you really want me to predict, here is my only one ESM will not get past any Section 8 school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

So let me get this right, you think there is some importance ranking girls High School Lacrosse pre season? I think it's plainly obvious to everyone that Copaigue, should not be playing Northport at any point during the season, but aside from that, rankings mean nothing except to stroke the egos of coaches and parents. As far as speculating the outcome of any future Girls High school lacrosse game, yah it's pretty notIntelligent, what are you doing handicapping your bet? If anyone should "get over themselves" it's you, here is your speculations to the outcome of the season, unless your Daughter is in Garden City, Farmingdale, SWR, or Mt Sinai or Manhasset your probably not going to win the Island or the state, so make your bets carefully

Wow ,did you take a time machine from the past, SWR, Farmingdale lol. You obviously are clueless with the current teams playing on LI. Again its a high school girls lacrosse forum talking about what teams will be successful in the upcoming season would be something that most non mental midgets should expect. What is even funnier is given your strange obsession about not posting predictions you then go on to make a prediction about the season ,hello Ms. Dorsett.

Hey Dumb Dumb , those are the teams tag have historically won in all divisions, no real prediction there. just the laws of averages. Personally who cares anyway. but since you really want me to predict, here is my only one ESM will not get past any Section 8 school.

ESM has true talent on their team and should do very well. Not sure why people are hating on ESM. A great of girls and leaders on their team.

Does anyone know when the section 8 schedules get released or the gains for Brains schedule? Has any team committed to gains for brains yet?

Who is the best team in Nassau this year? Manhasset, CSH or GC? (or Sacred Heart or other)

1. Manhasset
2. CSH
3 GC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

So let me get this right, you think there is some importance ranking girls High School Lacrosse pre season? I think it's plainly obvious to everyone that Copaigue, should not be playing Northport at any point during the season, but aside from that, rankings mean nothing except to stroke the egos of coaches and parents. As far as speculating the outcome of any future Girls High school lacrosse game, yah it's pretty notIntelligent, what are you doing handicapping your bet? If anyone should "get over themselves" it's you, here is your speculations to the outcome of the season, unless your Daughter is in Garden City, Farmingdale, SWR, or Mt Sinai or Manhasset your probably not going to win the Island or the state, so make your bets carefully

Wow ,did you take a time machine from the past, SWR, Farmingdale lol. You obviously are clueless with the current teams playing on LI. Again its a high school girls lacrosse forum talking about what teams will be successful in the upcoming season would be something that most non mental midgets should expect. What is even funnier is given your strange obsession about not posting predictions you then go on to make a prediction about the season ,hello Ms. Dorsett.

Hey Dumb Dumb , those are the teams tag have historically won in all divisions, no real prediction there. just the laws of averages. Personally who cares anyway. but since you really want me to predict, here is my only one ESM will not get past any Section 8 school.

First off its the law of averages not laws. If you don't care to discuss the upcoming season or about high school girls lacrosse in general then why are you even on this site, its a little creepy .Seems your split personality is showing again as far as making predictions. Between your split personality and your creepy high school girls lacrosse trolling I think my original Sybil Dorset call was correct.

Now onto your hatred of ESM, they are a very talented team but as stated previously there is only 1 ball and they are not great at sharing it so I think they dont even make it to the LI championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

So let me get this right, you think there is some importance ranking girls High School Lacrosse pre season? I think it's plainly obvious to everyone that Copaigue, should not be playing Northport at any point during the season, but aside from that, rankings mean nothing except to stroke the egos of coaches and parents. As far as speculating the outcome of any future Girls High school lacrosse game, yah it's pretty notIntelligent, what are you doing handicapping your bet? If anyone should "get over themselves" it's you, here is your speculations to the outcome of the season, unless your Daughter is in Garden City, Farmingdale, SWR, or Mt Sinai or Manhasset your probably not going to win the Island or the state, so make your bets carefully

Wow ,did you take a time machine from the past, SWR, Farmingdale lol. You obviously are clueless with the current teams playing on LI. Again its a high school girls lacrosse forum talking about what teams will be successful in the upcoming season would be something that most non mental midgets should expect. What is even funnier is given your strange obsession about not posting predictions you then go on to make a prediction about the season ,hello Ms. Dorsett.

Hey Dumb Dumb , those are the teams tag have historically won in all divisions, no real prediction there. just the laws of averages. Personally who cares anyway. but since you really want me to predict, here is my only one ESM will not get past any Section 8 school.

First off its the law of averages not laws. If you don't care to discuss the upcoming season or about high school girls lacrosse in general then why are you even on this site, its a little creepy .Seems your split personality is showing again as far as making predictions. Between your split personality and your creepy high school girls lacrosse trolling I think my original Sybil Dorset call was correct.

Now onto your hatred of ESM, they are a very talented team but as stated previously there is only 1 ball and they are not great at sharing it so I think they dont even make it to the LI championship.

I don't know If you've watched ESM play but from what I've seen, they play like a team. The leading scorer usually scores off of a feed....last time I checked, that is considered teamwork.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Here"s a far out idea. Seeing as we're all playing the what if game, and no one can, with any certainty, accurately predict what will happen in the future, why don't we all keep our heavily biased opinions to ourselves until at least the season is half over this way there is some data to go on and not just the "my daughters High School is better than Your Daughters High School" opinion. Honestly you all sound like a bunch of stunads"

Most ridiculous statement on these boards under the guise of being above it all. So I guess you dont think there should ever be rankings or speculation as to the outcome of any future game. There is "data" to go on like how the team did the previous year and who they lose and bring back etc..Get over yourself its a girls high school lacrosse forum what do you want them to ost about the upcoming uniform changes for the season.

So let me get this right, you think there is some importance ranking girls High School Lacrosse pre season? I think it's plainly obvious to everyone that Copaigue, should not be playing Northport at any point during the season, but aside from that, rankings mean nothing except to stroke the egos of coaches and parents. As far as speculating the outcome of any future Girls High school lacrosse game, yah it's pretty notIntelligent, what are you doing handicapping your bet? If anyone should "get over themselves" it's you, here is your speculations to the outcome of the season, unless your Daughter is in Garden City, Farmingdale, SWR, or Mt Sinai or Manhasset your probably not going to win the Island or the state, so make your bets carefully

Wow ,did you take a time machine from the past, SWR, Farmingdale lol. You obviously are clueless with the current teams playing on LI. Again its a high school girls lacrosse forum talking about what teams will be successful in the upcoming season would be something that most non mental midgets should expect. What is even funnier is given your strange obsession about not posting predictions you then go on to make a prediction about the season ,hello Ms. Dorsett.

Hey Dumb Dumb , those are the teams tag have historically won in all divisions, no real prediction there. just the laws of averages. Personally who cares anyway. but since you really want me to predict, here is my only one ESM will not get past any Section 8 school.

First off its the law of averages not laws. If you don't care to discuss the upcoming season or about high school girls lacrosse in general then why are you even on this site, its a little creepy .Seems your split personality is showing again as far as making predictions. Between your split personality and your creepy high school girls lacrosse trolling I think my original Sybil Dorset call was correct.

Now onto your hatred of ESM, they are a very talented team but as stated previously there is only 1 ball and they are not great at sharing it so I think they dont even make it to the LI championship.

Ok seeing as you are so immersed in your daughters lacrosse career, I'll explain my Syble self to you. I personally find it funny and sad that people like you seem to think ranking High School girls lacrosse team is in any way valid or helpful to anyone but coaches and parents. Coaches have a vested interest, it's there job. Parents, on the other hand, I find parents like you just sad. Why do you even care who is the higher ranked team in January? Don't you have adult things to do? Do you really live your life trying to prove to everyone that your daughters Lacrosse team is the "best" or are just trying to have a high school do over for yourself? I wonder? What is really creepy is an adult caring about who the highest ranked Girls Lacrosse team 3 months before the season even starts who are YOU..... Ed Gein? In the end the purpose of Girls Lacrosse is to have some good solid competition that keeps you kid healthy and out of trouble, and to maybe make it a little easier for you daughter to get into college, and if you're lucky, with a little monetary relief. Stop making it all about you ED. And by the way there's an apostrophe in don't

since you are correcting grammatical and spelling errors...."Coaches have a vested interest, it's there job" (their)...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team in Nassau this year? Manhasset, CSH or GC? (or Sacred Heart or other)

Got to put Sacred Heart and Saint Anthony's right there. Both return a ton of juniors and seniors....and have to figure SA will have extra motivation after getting knocked off their championship perch..wild card is if SH can sustain that mojo needed to duplicate SA feat of multiple consecutive Championships.
Always great lax when SH and SA tangle with the top tier of publics too....CSH, Set' and GC as well as Suffolk Pub's

Ok seeing as you are so immersed in your daughters lacrosse career, I'll explain my Syble self to you. I personally find it funny and sad that people like you seem to think ranking High School girls lacrosse team is in any way valid or helpful to anyone but coaches and parents. Coaches have a vested interest, it's there job. Parents, on the other hand, I find parents like you just sad. Why do you even care who is the higher ranked team in January? Don't you have adult things to do? Do you really live your life trying to prove to everyone that your daughters Lacrosse team is the "best" or are just trying to have a high school do over for yourself? I wonder? What is really creepy is an adult caring about who the highest ranked Girls Lacrosse team 3 months before the season even starts who are YOU..... Ed Gein? In the end the purpose of Girls Lacrosse is to have some good solid competition that keeps you kid healthy and out of trouble, and to maybe make it a little easier for you daughter to get into college, and if you're lucky, with a little monetary relief. Stop making it all about you ED. And by the way there's an apostrophe in don't

I was a math major so grammar is not my forte but will give this incoherent nonsense a try. When you say daughters career you need to show possession as its their (not there) career. Team needs to be plural and who said that rankings were helpful to more than coaches and parents or helpful to anyone, its just a source of conversation on a lacrosse forum. The run on sentences are troubling and capitalizing you shows you are a bit passive aggressive, probably a trait of which ever personality is dominating you at the moment . The purpose of girls lacrosse is to have "some good solid competition" is just nonsensical blather. The " you daughter" is more a Tony Soprano thing , maybe its another one of your personalities Sybil. In general your copy of the term creepy and unimaginative use of Ed Gein after being labelled Sybil shows a general lack of acumen.You come onto a girls lacrosse forum and complain that people are discussing the upcoming season yet you have nothing positive to add, now go get the help you need .Up next will be the C division breakdown which may send Sybil over the edge.

C division in Section XI . Its a 3 team race with WHB, BBP, MS. Its an interesting season as WHB has the ability to beat any team but if they run into an above average team with good coaching they probably lose. Their main issue will be they most likely will have to go thru both the other teams come the playoffs which may be too much to ask. BBP on the other hand will be a team deep in talent and will have a good player at every position on the field while not having the dominant player that they had in the past.I believe they have the best chance at beating MS but could see them losing to WHB mainly do to their coach.Not saying he is a bad coach but seems its a bad match up for his defensive style.MS is the favorite until someone beats them and would think they would rather see WHB than BBP in the finals.I think this year there offense will be more spread out among the players as opposed to the past where essentially it all ran thru 1 or 2 players. They are the hardest working team and coaches on LI and it shows in their results.

D division in Section XI . Have to go Mattituck , they return most of their offense while losing some on defense so the gap may be closer w Babylon but still the better team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

C division in Section XI . Its a 3 team race with WHB, BBP, MS. Its an interesting season as WHB has the ability to beat any team but if they run into an above average team with good coaching they probably lose. Their main issue will be they most likely will have to go thru both the other teams come the playoffs which may be too much to ask. BBP on the other hand will be a team deep in talent and will have a good player at every position on the field while not having the dominant player that they had in the past.I believe they have the best chance at beating MS but could see them losing to WHB mainly do to their coach.Not saying he is a bad coach but seems its a bad match up for his defensive style.MS is the favorite until someone beats them and would think they would rather see WHB than BBP in the finals.I think this year there offense will be more spread out among the players as opposed to the past where essentially it all ran thru 1 or 2 players. They are the hardest working team and coaches on LI and it shows in their results.

D division in Section XI . Have to go Mattituck , they return most of their offense while losing some on defense so the gap may be closer w Babylon but still the better team.

How do we know which teams are B and which are C? Can't tell by looking at the schedules since B/C/D play each others. And, how many teams from B and or C make the playoffs?

Plainedge lost 12 seniors thats why.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

C division in Section XI . Its a 3 team race with WHB, BBP, MS. Its an interesting season as WHB has the ability to beat any team but if they run into an above average team with good coaching they probably lose. Their main issue will be they most likely will have to go thru both the other teams come the playoffs which may be too much to ask. BBP on the other hand will be a team deep in talent and will have a good player at every position on the field while not having the dominant player that they had in the past.I believe they have the best chance at beating MS but could see them losing to WHB mainly do to their coach.Not saying he is a bad coach but seems its a bad match up for his defensive style.MS is the favorite until someone beats them and would think they would rather see WHB than BBP in the finals.I think this year there offense will be more spread out among the players as opposed to the past where essentially it all ran thru 1 or 2 players. They are the hardest working team and coaches on LI and it shows in their results.

D division in Section XI . Have to go Mattituck , they return most of their offense while losing some on defense so the gap may be closer w Babylon but still the better team.

How do we know which teams are B and which are C? Can't tell by looking at the schedules since B/C/D play each others. And, how many teams from B and or C make the playoffs?

Go to the section XI athletics website and look for sports placements. Playoff wise go to playoff brackets at the top of the page.Its 11 in A, 5 in B, 5 in c , 3 in d

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team in Nassau this year? Manhasset, CSH or GC? (or Sacred Heart or other)

Got to put Sacred Heart and Saint Anthony's right there. Both return a ton of juniors and seniors....and have to figure SA will have extra motivation after getting knocked off their championship perch..wild card is if SH can sustain that mojo needed to duplicate SA feat of multiple consecutive Championships.
Always great lax when SH and SA tangle with the top tier of publics too....CSH, Set' and GC as well as Suffolk Pub's

SH graduated their best players who are headed to Duke. Their sophs don't even make club A teams so will need to rely on Fresh. SA wasn't so great last year agains public but they always contend. New coach in Set' so we will see. GC needs to get rid of pay for play and politics. CSH only ones in their division.

Why would you say BBP is the hardest working team around. I guess you know every team on LI

SH duke recruits are seniors you stunad and the best player on that team is attacker going to Richmond. I guess all good players are on “A” club teams according to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SH duke recruits are seniors you stunad and the best player on that team is attacker going to Richmond. I guess all good players are on “A” club teams according to you.

The Duke girls play for YJ A, no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team in Nassau this year? Manhasset, CSH or GC? (or Sacred Heart or other)

Got to put Sacred Heart and Saint Anthony's right there. Both return a ton of juniors and seniors....and have to figure SA will have extra motivation after getting knocked off their championship perch..wild card is if SH can sustain that mojo needed to duplicate SA feat of multiple consecutive Championships.
Always great lax when SH and SA tangle with the top tier of publics too....CSH, Set' and GC as well as Suffolk Pub's

SH graduated their best players who are headed to Duke. Their sophs don't even make club A teams so will need to rely on Fresh. SA wasn't so great last year agains public but they always contend. New coach in Set' so we will see. GC needs to get rid of pay for play and politics. CSH only ones in their division.

GC and pay for play and politics? LOL.. coach doesn’t even coach travel. what in the actual heck are you talking about? be specific and stop spreading rumors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would you say BBP is the hardest working team around. I guess you know every team on LI

I did not say that . I said MS and stand by that . If u disagree tell me the coaches and team that work harder.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would you say BBP is the hardest working team around. I guess you know every team on LI

I did not say that . I said MS and stand by that . If u disagree tell me the coaches and team that work harder.

Just because a coach feels the need to post on social media daily, doesn’t mean his gram is working any harder than the rest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would you say BBP is the hardest working team around. I guess you know every team on LI

I did not say that . I said MS and stand by that . If u disagree tell me the coaches and team that work harder.

Just because a coach feels the need to post on social media daily, doesn’t mean his gram is working any harder than the rest.

So I guess you can’t name a team .My kid does not go to MS but I can tell you they work extremely hard . Not sure everything they do is within the rules in terms of amount of time practicing etc but that’s probably just jealousy in my part

So looks like both SH and SA are returning a bunch of high level players. Should make for an interesting few games for those 2 against each other. Unfortunately, the rest of Catholic teams are basically PAL teams (if that), so the out of conference schedule for both will be real test of how thy stack-up. But SA and SH usually schedule some of best non-league comp around so that will be interesting.
And the CSH and GC match-ups against SA and SH are great games to see. All Good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would you say BBP is the hardest working team around. I guess you know every team on LI

I did not say that . I said MS and stand by that . If u disagree tell me the coaches and team that work harder.

Just because a coach feels the need to post on social media daily, doesn’t mean his gram is working any harder than the rest.

So I guess you can’t name a team .My kid does not go to MS but I can tell you they work extremely hard . Not sure everything they do is within the rules in terms of amount of time practicing etc but that’s probably just jealousy in my part

I'm sure every team works just as hard...I can name a few that give it their all... Smithtown West, Westhampton, Bayport, ESM and Mattituck to name a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok seeing as you are so immersed in your daughters lacrosse career, I'll explain my Syble self to you. I personally find it funny and sad that people like you seem to think ranking High School girls lacrosse team is in any way valid or helpful to anyone but coaches and parents. Coaches have a vested interest, it's there job. Parents, on the other hand, I find parents like you just sad. Why do you even care who is the higher ranked team in January? Don't you have adult things to do? Do you really live your life trying to prove to everyone that your daughters Lacrosse team is the "best" or are just trying to have a high school do over for yourself? I wonder? What is really creepy is an adult caring about who the highest ranked Girls Lacrosse team 3 months before the season even starts who are YOU..... Ed Gein? In the end the purpose of Girls Lacrosse is to have some good solid competition that keeps you kid healthy and out of trouble, and to maybe make it a little easier for you daughter to get into college, and if you're lucky, with a little monetary relief. Stop making it all about you ED. And by the way there's an apostrophe in don't

I was a math major so grammar is not my forte but will give this incoherent nonsense a try. When you say daughters career you need to show possession as its their (not there) career. Team needs to be plural and who said that rankings were helpful to more than coaches and parents or helpful to anyone, its just a source of conversation on a lacrosse forum. The run on sentences are troubling and capitalizing you shows you are a bit passive aggressive, probably a trait of which ever personality is dominating you at the moment . The purpose of girls lacrosse is to have "some good solid competition" is just nonsensical blather. The " you daughter" is more a Tony Soprano thing , maybe its another one of your personalities Sybil. In general your copy of the term creepy and unimaginative use of Ed Gein after being labelled Sybil shows a general lack of acumen.You come onto a girls lacrosse forum and complain that people are discussing the upcoming season yet you have nothing positive to add, now go get the help you need .Up next will be the C division breakdown which may send Sybil over the edge.

Why don't you girls trade Instagram handles and take this nonsense there - getting really boring for the rest of us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok seeing as you are so immersed in your daughters lacrosse career, I'll explain my Syble self to you. I personally find it funny and sad that people like you seem to think ranking High School girls lacrosse team is in any way valid or helpful to anyone but coaches and parents. Coaches have a vested interest, it's there job. Parents, on the other hand, I find parents like you just sad. Why do you even care who is the higher ranked team in January? Don't you have adult things to do? Do you really live your life trying to prove to everyone that your daughters Lacrosse team is the "best" or are just trying to have a high school do over for yourself? I wonder? What is really creepy is an adult caring about who the highest ranked Girls Lacrosse team 3 months before the season even starts who are YOU..... Ed Gein? In the end the purpose of Girls Lacrosse is to have some good solid competition that keeps you kid healthy and out of trouble, and to maybe make it a little easier for you daughter to get into college, and if you're lucky, with a little monetary relief. Stop making it all about you ED. And by the way there's an apostrophe in don't

I was a math major so grammar is not my forte but will give this incoherent nonsense a try. When you say daughters career you need to show possession as its their (not there) career. Team needs to be plural and who said that rankings were helpful to more than coaches and parents or helpful to anyone, its just a source of conversation on a lacrosse forum. The run on sentences are troubling and capitalizing you shows you are a bit passive aggressive, probably a trait of which ever personality is dominating you at the moment . The purpose of girls lacrosse is to have "some good solid competition" is just nonsensical blather. The " you daughter" is more a Tony Soprano thing , maybe its another one of your personalities Sybil. In general your copy of the term creepy and unimaginative use of Ed Gein after being labelled Sybil shows a general lack of acumen.You come onto a girls lacrosse forum and complain that people are discussing the upcoming season yet you have nothing positive to add, now go get the help you need .Up next will be the C division breakdown which may send Sybil over the edge.

Why don't you girls trade Instagram handles and take this nonsense there - getting really boring for the rest of us.

How is what you just did any different or what I am doing right now for that matter . How about anyone who feels the need to make a post that has nothing to do with girls lacrosse like yours and this one just don’t do it . Now I feel like Sybil and hate myself .

How do we know which teams are B and which are C? Can't tell by looking at the schedules since B/C/D play each others. And, how many teams from B and or C make the playoffs? [/quote]
Go to the section XI athletics website and look for sports placements. Playoff wise go to playoff brackets at the top of the page.Its 11 in A, 5 in B, 5 in c , 3 in d[/quote]
C = RP, Islip, Westhampton, Sayville, Miller Place, SWR, Mt Sinai, BBP and Glenn. It seems most will agree the top [3] teams are Westhampton, BBP and Mt Sinai. What other [2] teams make the playoffs? B = West Islip, Bellport, Deer Park, Comsewogue, East Islip, ESM, West Babylon, EH/Pier/BH/Ross, Hauppauge, Kings Park and Harborfields. It seems most agree the top [3] teams are ESM, West Babylon and West Islip. What other [2] teams make playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would you say BBP is the hardest working team around. I guess you know every team on LI

I did not say that . I said MS and stand by that . If u disagree tell me the coaches and team that work harder.

Just because a coach feels the need to post on social media daily, doesn’t mean his gram is working any harder than the rest.

So I guess you can’t name a team .My kid does not go to MS but I can tell you they work extremely hard . Not sure everything they do is within the rules in terms of amount of time practicing etc but that’s probably just

jealousy in my part

I'm sure every team works just as hard...I can name a few that give it their all... Smithtown West, Westhampton, Bayport, ESM and Mattituck to name a few.

Sorry but you just really have no idea . None of those teams you mentioned are getting together 2-3 times a week in the off season and essentially practice 7 days a week in season . It’s not a nock , just ask anyone you know who has a good knowledge of Suffolk county girls lax

WEST ISLIP WILL WIN THE ENTIRE THING

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP WILL WIN THE ENTIRE THING

stop stirring the pot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would you say BBP is the hardest working team around. I guess you know every team on LI

I did not say that . I said MS and stand by that . If u disagree tell me the coaches and team that work harder.

Just because a coach feels the need to post on social media daily, doesn’t mean his gram is working any harder than the rest.

So I guess you can’t name a team .My kid does not go to MS but I can tell you they work extremely hard . Not sure everything they do is within the rules in terms of amount of time practicing etc but that’s probably just

jealousy in my part

I'm sure every team works just as hard...I can name a few that give it their all... Smithtown West, Westhampton, Bayport, ESM and Mattituck to name a few.

Sorry but you just really have no idea . None of those teams you mentioned are getting together 2-3 times a week in the off season and essentially practice 7 days a week in season . It’s not a nock , just ask anyone you know who has a good knowledge of Suffolk county girls lax

Agree, this person has no idea whatsoever. I know many girls at all the programs above, spanning many age groups. Hands down, not even close, MS puts in way more time and effort than any other. Sorta jealous of that, sorta not. Despite the winning, girls get burnt out and hate the culture and everything MS in the end, despite the everything is great social media message.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team in Nassau this year? Manhasset, CSH or GC? (or Sacred Heart or other)

Got to put Sacred Heart and Saint Anthony's right there. Both return a ton of juniors and seniors....and have to figure SA will have extra motivation after getting knocked off their championship perch..wild card is if SH can sustain that mojo needed to duplicate SA feat of multiple consecutive Championships.
Always great lax when SH and SA tangle with the top tier of publics too....CSH, Set' and GC as well as Suffolk Pub's

SH graduated their best players who are headed to Duke. Their sophs don't even make club A teams so will need to rely on Fresh. SA wasn't so great last year agains public but they always contend. New coach in Set' so we will see. GC needs to get rid of pay for play and politics. CSH only ones in their division.

GC and pay for play and politics? LOL.. coach doesn’t even coach travel. what in the actual heck are you talking about? be specific and stop spreading rumors

You clearly don't live in GC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team in Nassau this year? Manhasset, CSH or GC? (or Sacred Heart or other)

Got to put Sacred Heart and Saint Anthony's right there. Both return a ton of juniors and seniors....and have to figure SA will have extra motivation after getting knocked off their championship perch..wild card is if SH can sustain that mojo needed to duplicate SA feat of multiple consecutive Championships.
Always great lax when SH and SA tangle with the top tier of publics too....CSH, Set' and GC as well as Suffolk Pub's

SH graduated their best players who are headed to Duke. Their sophs don't even make club A teams so will need to rely on Fresh. SA wasn't so great last year agains public but they always contend. New coach in Set' so we will see. GC needs to get rid of pay for play and politics. CSH only ones in their division.

GC and pay for play and politics? LOL.. coach doesn’t even coach travel. what in the actual heck are you talking about? be specific and stop spreading rumors

You clearly don't live in GC

ok buddy .. YOU HAVE NO CLUE. where are the specifics.. clown.. hiw’s Mastic these days?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team in Nassau this year? Manhasset, CSH or GC? (or Sacred Heart or other)

Got to put Sacred Heart and Saint Anthony's right there. Both return a ton of juniors and seniors....and have to figure SA will have extra motivation after getting knocked off their championship perch..wild card is if SH can sustain that mojo needed to duplicate SA feat of multiple consecutive Championships.
Always great lax when SH and SA tangle with the top tier of publics too....CSH, Set' and GC as well as Suffolk Pub's

SH graduated their best players who are headed to Duke. Their sophs don't even make club A teams so will need to rely on Fresh. SA wasn't so great last year agains public but they always contend. New coach in Set' so we will see. GC needs to get rid of pay for play and politics. CSH only ones in their division.

GC and pay for play and politics? LOL.. coach doesn’t even coach travel. what in the actual heck are you talking about? be specific and stop spreading rumors

You clearly don't live in GC

ok buddy .. YOU HAVE NO CLUE. where are the specifics.. clown.. hiw’s Mastic these days?

Why the hatred of Mastic , not sure how its relevant to the discussion.

suffolk lacrosse is trash. please stop posting about the 2nd tier (athletic and academic) schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

suffolk lacrosse is trash. please stop posting about the 2nd tier (athletic and academic) schools.

2nd tier athletics...lol that's kinda funny. Year after year Suffolk has the best girls lacrosse players etc...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SH duke recruits are seniors you stunad and the best player on that team is attacker going to Richmond. I guess all good players are on “A” club teams according to you.

SH dad stay in your lane, you beat us once every 10-15 years, by all accounts you were lucky to get out of the semi-finals alive last year, if the kellenberg coach had a clue you would have lost that game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

suffolk lacrosse is trash. please stop posting about the 2nd tier (athletic and academic) schools.

So obviously just some dopey pot stirrer. Interesting that 1/3 of the D1 , team 1, All-Americans last year were Suffolk products. That is really impressive and just shows that if you can play at a high level on LI it translates well to the college game. Mr. Hempstead has no clue.

Pay to play- you must be referring to NP, Fdale, MS, Set and other non-elite lax teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pay to play- you must be referring to NP, Fdale, MS, Set and other non-elite lax teams.

nope Christmas gifts $$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pay to play- you must be referring to NP, Fdale, MS, Set and other non-elite lax teams.

nope Christmas gifts $$$

typical troll - sorry you didnt make YJ or Top Guns As

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pay to play- you must be referring to NP, Fdale, MS, Set and other non-elite lax teams.

nope Christmas gifts $$$

clueless! still waiting for specifics. sorry you can’t afford the cheapest home Set, GC or CSH.

Money and buying houses shouldn't come into play here. Troll is throwing dirt on the walls hoping it will stick. Maybe this belongs in the boys lacrosse forum and you're lost.

I just want to know why you lump SA in Nassau?

still waiting for how coaches who don’t coach travel get paid $$. Seems someone is implying there is money under the table. Not very productive to throw accusations around like that

I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

Garden City Out of Conference Scedule is out with 3 consecutive games in what looks like Virginia.Dont think I have heard of Holton Arms bit the other 2 VA schools seem like good competition.

Kellenberg 3/13
Georgetown Visitation (VA) 4/22
Holton Arms (VA) 4/23
Good Counsel (VA) 4/24
Sacred Heart 5/3

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/team/schedule.aspx?gendersport=girls,lacrosse&schoolid=212c9844-97f0-4807-b87b-2a75b87ba4e7

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City Out of Conference Scedule is out with 3 consecutive games in what looks like Virginia.Dont think I have heard of Holton Arms bit the other 2 VA schools seem like good competition.

Kellenberg 3/13
Georgetown Visitation (VA) 4/22
Holton Arms (VA) 4/23
Good Counsel (VA) 4/24
Sacred Heart 5/3

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/team/schedule.aspx?gendersport=girls,lacrosse&schoolid=212c9844-97f0-4807-b87b-2a75b87ba4e7

and?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City Out of Conference Scedule is out with 3 consecutive games in what looks like Virginia.Dont think I have heard of Holton Arms bit the other 2 VA schools seem like good competition.

Kellenberg 3/13
Georgetown Visitation (VA) 4/22
Holton Arms (VA) 4/23
Good Counsel (VA) 4/24
Sacred Heart 5/3

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/team/schedule.aspx?gendersport=girls,lacrosse&schoolid=212c9844-97f0-4807-b87b-2a75b87ba4e7

and?

LOL.. seemed to have touched a nerve. I think what he is trying to say is that GC is going down to Virginia to face 3 of the top 10 teams in the country BACK TO BACK TO BACK... instead having tea and playing jacks and marbles with second tier competition in Suffolk like Islip and Northport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City Out of Conference Scedule is out with 3 consecutive games in what looks like Virginia.Dont think I have heard of Holton Arms bit the other 2 VA schools seem like good competition.

Kellenberg 3/13
Georgetown Visitation (VA) 4/22
Holton Arms (VA) 4/23
Good Counsel (VA) 4/24
Sacred Heart 5/3

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/team/schedule.aspx?gendersport=girls,lacrosse&schoolid=212c9844-97f0-4807-b87b-2a75b87ba4e7

and?

I think most schools have that week off. It would bother me that we would have to go to VA during break (and probably pay for most of the trip) . We already go to Maryland with the club team. Why the need to go with School? I assume to get more exposure for recruiting (assuming these girls don’t play for YJ)

Sorry to hear it would bother you. We’re happy to go! It’s always a great trip.

Good Council is trying to be a recruiting powerhouse in Olney Maryland. Visitation has a great team lately.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good Council is trying to be a recruiting powerhouse in Olney Maryland. Visitation has a great team lately.

Agreed those Va teams are pretty solid and all finished in top 15 last year. Is this a tournament in VA? or did the schools just set this up between themselves? Great team building and exposure nonetheless. Great opportunity to visit the white [ChillLaxin]...(never mind).

Speaking of tournaments.. does anyone know if the brains for gains tournament is happening this year. Have not heard anything yet.

When does Newsday list the players to watch?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City Out of Conference Scedule is out with 3 consecutive games in what looks like Virginia.Dont think I have heard of Holton Arms bit the other 2 VA schools seem like good competition.

Kellenberg 3/13
Georgetown Visitation (VA) 4/22
Holton Arms (VA) 4/23
Good Counsel (VA) 4/24
Sacred Heart 5/3

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/team/schedule.aspx?gendersport=girls,lacrosse&schoolid=212c9844-97f0-4807-b87b-2a75b87ba4e7

and?

LOL.. seemed to have touched a nerve. I think what he is trying to say is that GC is going down to Virginia to face 3 of the top 10 teams in the country BACK TO BACK TO BACK... instead having tea and playing jacks and marbles with second tier competition in Suffolk like Islip and Northport

and?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

When is the class rankings for the girls for 2021 going be listed? interested to see who the top girls for recruiting will be.

Good Counsel isn't very good this year(and is in Maryland). Holton Arms is down this year too(Also in Maryland). Visitation is a very good team(and is in DC).

In the past CSH has gone down to MD and played Georgetown Visitation as well. Strong program. Nice hosts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

personally I think its not good for 8th graders hanging out with seniors. different mentality.. and burn out.. don't know why people push so much to get theirkid on varsity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In the past CSH has gone down to MD and played Georgetown Visitation as well. Strong program. Nice hosts.

I just googled these schools and GTown Visittaion tuition is 28k and Holton Arms Tuition is $$42,975 (includes snacks).. Holy $$$$ my goodness! Hey.. if you have it, why not??

Something tells me the 12th grade girls are talking about different things in the locker room than an 8th grade girl...do you really want your daughter directly exposed to that aspect of playing on Varsity as a 12/13 yr old with 17/18 yr olds???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

Not in some schools. Parents play the game the right way with the coach and kids that weren't even impact players in middle school and play on low level club teams are being pulled up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

personally I think its not good for 8th graders hanging out with seniors. different mentality.. and burn out.. don't know why people push so much to get theirkid on varsity

depends on a few things the kid the district and the parents.

In many of these towns the kids know each other anyways. In other towns, there are related or parents have been friends for years. I think it is worse to be put on JV than varsity. At least on Varsity something is at stake on JV whats the difference records dont count for anything. They are closer in age so behavior differences arent seen as a WOW factor and maybe as a part of growing up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

personally I think its not good for 8th graders hanging out with seniors. different mentality.. and burn out.. don't know why people push so much to get theirkid on varsity

depends on a few things the kid the district and the parents.

In many of these towns the kids know each other anyways. In other towns, there are related or parents have been friends for years. I think it is worse to be put on JV than varsity. At least on Varsity something is at stake on JV whats the difference records dont count for anything. They are closer in age so behavior differences arent seen as a WOW factor and maybe as a part of growing up.

It all depends on the school district ,strength of program, and sometimes the numbers. In most cases the kids getting pulled up deserve to be pulled up. although many bitter parents will always feel there kid deserved it too. If you have a good coach they will be able to identify the best players and players they feel are going to be a big part of their program whether or not they place them on JV or V. Yes, there are many things to consider if your child is being asked to play at the high school. Whether or not they are mature enough socially is also as important as their maturity physically. The people that come on here and are saying its because of who you know or people being related seem a little jealous to me. Bottom line is enjoy the ride, its only middle schoolers your talking about and they all have a long way to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

personally I think its not good for 8th graders hanging out with seniors. different mentality.. and burn out.. don't know why people push so much to get theirkid on varsity

depends on a few things the kid the district and the parents.

In many of these towns the kids know each other anyways. In other towns, there are related or parents have been friends for years. I think it is worse to be put on JV than varsity. At least on Varsity something is at stake on JV whats the difference records dont count for anything. They are closer in age so behavior differences arent seen as a WOW factor and maybe as a part of growing up.

It all depends on the school district ,strength of program, and sometimes the numbers. In most cases the kids getting pulled up deserve to be pulled up. although many bitter parents will always feel there kid deserved it too. If you have a good coach they will be able to identify the best players and players they feel are going to be a big part of their program whether or not they place them on JV or V. Yes, there are many things to consider if your child is being asked to play at the high school. Whether or not they are mature enough socially is also as important as their maturity physically. The people that come on here and are saying its because of who you know or people being related seem a little jealous to me. Bottom line is enjoy the ride, its only middle schoolers your talking about and they all have a long way to go.

you are right in the sense that it is only middle school and they have a long way to go. My friends daughter played as an 8th grader and she was very isolated. Why? Just let her play withkids her own age. Smaller district where there isn't a big pool to pull from I can see. In bigger districts they should have enough talent that they don't and shouldn't pull from middle schools. 8th graders are not ready. There is injury factors to consider too,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

personally I think its not good for 8th graders hanging out with seniors. different mentality.. and burn out.. don't know why people push so much to get theirkid on varsity

depends on a few things the kid the district and the parents.

In many of these towns the kids know each other anyways. In other towns, there are related or parents have been friends for years. I think it is worse to be put on JV than varsity. At least on Varsity something is at stake on JV whats the difference records dont count for anything. They are closer in age so behavior differences arent seen as a WOW factor and maybe as a part of growing up.

8th graders are more inclined to repeat and be impressed by the actions of the 9/10th graders. They feel more connected to them, more can go wrong on JV. They are more intimidated to do as the Seniors do, they may hear things but not repeat. It does depend on the player, but these MS girls are more advanced than you think and by advanced i mean mature and mentally secure. better to take the chance if you have it, then not.

In many schools the MS lets out after the the HS so they arnt exposed to as much locker room talk as you think.

the only question is, is she ready for varsity, because any girl really can be on the JV team.

if ATHLETICALLY SOCIAL AND PHYSICALLY MATURE and ready, always bring up. the above is nonsense about 8th graders not being ready, some are! Kids her own age? please, if lacrosse is her passion you do what is appropriate for your daughter if selected by the coach let her go for the 3 day "trail/tryout" what does that hurt. Although i dont think the 3 days is a wide enough trial period. Remember you only get better playing with and against better players. ( JV is only 1 or 2 years older. if a freshman or Soph on Varsity they arent playing their age either so their goes that theory)

as far as being Isolated, to what degree, if teammates isolate her completely and her play spoke for itself... the team had bigger issues. (either that or she didnt belong)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the only question is, is she ready for varsity, because any girl really can be on the JV team.

if ATHLETICALLY SOCIAL AND PHYSICALLY MATURE and ready, always bring up. the above is nonsense about 8th graders not being ready, some are! Kids her own age? please, if lacrosse is her passion you do what is appropriate for your daughter if selected by the coach let her go for the 3 day "trail/tryout" what does that hurt. Although i dont think the 3 days is a wide enough trial period. Remember you only get better playing with and against better players. ( JV is only 1 or 2 years older. if a freshman or Soph on Varsity they arent playing their age either so their goes that theory)

as far as being Isolated, to what degree, if teammates isolate her completely and her play spoke for itself... the team had bigger issues. (either that or she didnt belong)

The other issue is when younger girl is bought up and is better than the Upper Class and resentment comes in. They have to be tough cookies to handle the extra pressure......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the only question is, is she ready for varsity, because any girl really can be on the JV team.

if ATHLETICALLY SOCIAL AND PHYSICALLY MATURE and ready, always bring up. the above is nonsense about 8th graders not being ready, some are! Kids her own age? please, if lacrosse is her passion you do what is appropriate for your daughter if selected by the coach let her go for the 3 day "trail/tryout" what does that hurt. Although i dont think the 3 days is a wide enough trial period. Remember you only get better playing with and against better players. ( JV is only 1 or 2 years older. if a freshman or Soph on Varsity they arent playing their age either so their goes that theory)

as far as being Isolated, to what degree, if teammates isolate her completely and her play spoke for itself... the team had bigger issues. (either that or she didnt belong)

there is total resentment when an 8th grader taking the spot of a junior/senior. Its a lonely ride for them...not sure why push....but I haven't really ever seen stellar 8th graders play HS varsity lax. can't think of any that got much attention... the 50% rule must not really be enforced if they are playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the only question is, is she ready for varsity, because any girl really can be on the JV team.

if ATHLETICALLY SOCIAL AND PHYSICALLY MATURE and ready, always bring up. the above is nonsense about 8th graders not being ready, some are! Kids her own age? please, if lacrosse is her passion you do what is appropriate for your daughter if selected by the coach let her go for the 3 day "trail/tryout" what does that hurt. Although i dont think the 3 days is a wide enough trial period. Remember you only get better playing with and against better players. ( JV is only 1 or 2 years older. if a freshman or Soph on Varsity they arent playing their age either so their goes that theory)

as far as being Isolated, to what degree, if teammates isolate her completely and her play spoke for itself... the team had bigger issues. (either that or she didnt belong)

probably didn't belong but that is the point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Something tells me the 12th grade girls are talking about different things in the locker room than an 8th grade girl...do you really want your daughter directly exposed to that aspect of playing on Varsity as a 12/13 yr old with 17/18 yr olds???

exactly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

Not in some schools. Parents play the game the right way with the coach and kids that weren't even impact players in middle school and play on low level club teams are being pulled up.

a lot of it has to do with exactly that.

There is no rule that the girl can only play 4 years in a high school sport? I think in MD there is a rule that you can’t play 5 seasons...

There is that is why you would need the NYS APP waiver

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no rule that the girl can only play 4 years in a high school sport? I think in MD there is a rule that you can’t play 5 seasons...

The case in most of these situations, is that the school itself does not have enough bodies to play the sport. So they drain the pool of middle school girls. It’s simple math people

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

Not in some schools. Parents play the game the right way with the coach and kids that weren't even impact players in middle school and play on low level club teams are being pulled up.

a lot of it has to do with exactly that.

In Sayville, the coach brought up six 8th graders last year because they played on the assistant coach's YJ team. There was clearly an arrangement between the asst. coach and the parents that if they came to his team then he would bring them up. Now the assistant coach is gone and the varsity team is stuck with the girls. FYI; Last year their JV team beat their Varsity team in a scrimmage because the head coach overlooked a lot of talented girls. There will be some very unhappy parents when their kids lose their spots to the girls who should have been brought up last year. Talk about a disaster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Something tells me the 12th grade girls are talking about different things in the locker room than an 8th grade girl...do you really want your daughter directly exposed to that aspect of playing on Varsity as a 12/13 yr old with 17/18 yr olds???

First off, 8th grade is 13/14. And what would they be on the team with only seniors? You are talking about varsity that has kids ranging in age from 13-18 yrs old. If you feel it best for your kid not to play up as an 8th grader, that's your choice. Or is it that you have a jr/sr that doesn't practice and you are afraid that the 8th grader is going to take her spot?

Lol at your puffing your chest and questioning my intentions in my post. My daughter is in 6th and plays for YJ 25, yes the good team... Just stating it is certainly a consideration I'd have if faced with that decision. Everyone else can do whatever they feel is best for their daughter. My point was I've heard people say they had overlooked that aspect of the decision and were only looking at size and skill to determine if their daughter belonged with the varsity group. Yes, physically girls may develop earlier but mentally they are still in 12-14 age in 8th...(and not too many 14's unless they are hold backs jocko).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol at your puffing your chest and questioning my intentions in my post. My daughter is in 6th and plays for YJ 25, yes the good team... Just stating it is certainly a consideration I'd have if faced with that decision. Everyone else can do whatever they feel is best for their daughter. My point was I've heard people say they had overlooked that aspect of the decision and were only looking at size and skill to determine if their daughter belonged with the varsity group. Yes, physically girls may develop earlier but mentally they are still in 12-14 age in 8th...(and not too many 14's unless they are hold backs jocko).

LOL...YJ 25 "good team" now who's chest puffing, jacko. Kids on LI start to turn 14 come mid Dec of 2018 for 8th grade...come spring a lot of kids are 14....don't know
ANY 12 year old 8th graders.....maybe your box lacrosse helmet is on too tight.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Something tells me the 12th grade girls are talking about different things in the locker room than an 8th grade girl...do you really want your daughter directly exposed to that aspect of playing on Varsity as a 12/13 yr old with 17/18 yr olds???

First off, 8th grade is 13/14. And what would they be on the team with only seniors? You are talking about varsity that has kids ranging in age from 13-18 yrs old. If you feel it best for your kid not to play up as an 8th grader, that's your choice. Or is it that you have a jr/sr that doesn't practice and you are afraid that the 8th grader is going to take her spot?

My daughter plays lacrosse in the spring she shouldn't have to practice in the off season for fear that an 8th grader will take her spot. 8th grade girls should play middle school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol at your puffing your chest and questioning my intentions in my post. My daughter is in 6th and plays for YJ 25, yes the good team... Just stating it is certainly a consideration I'd have if faced with that decision. Everyone else can do whatever they feel is best for their daughter. My point was I've heard people say they had overlooked that aspect of the decision and were only looking at size and skill to determine if their daughter belonged with the varsity group. Yes, physically girls may develop earlier but mentally they are still in 12-14 age in 8th...(and not too many 14's unless they are hold backs jocko).

Actually a good number of non hold backs who are " brought up' are 14 by the time lax season starts. If your daughter plays for the top YJ team you can bet that many of her teammates will be playing varsity while in middle school and it is an advantage lacrosse wise at a critical time. As far as the social aspect who exactly is playing on your high school team , is it filled with social misfits and kids that are having inappropriate conversations , if thats the case you may want to move out of the district. My daughter was moved up and had nothing but positive experiences , if your kid belongs there and they will help the team win the girls are very accepting of them. Nobody overlooks that aspect of moving their daughter up they just come to realize that whats on TV is far worse than what goes on at a high school girls lacrosse practice.

my 9th grader and most of his friends are only 14... my point of stating which yj team my daughter was on was to refute comment that I was probably worried some 8th grader was going to take my daughters spot... no such fears or cares. the best should play no matter the age. Raised a consideration about bringing 8th grade girls up. That's it. A consideration. There are of course many factors. You are angry. Regret your wife's wilting back tattoo? Daughter has cankles? Sarge isn't granting you enough OT? Must be something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is that is why you would need the NYS APP waiver

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no rule that the girl can only play 4 years in a high school sport? I think in MD there is a rule that you can’t play 5 seasons...

Catholic HS have the same 4 season rule

In Mass 8th graders can only play if the middle school is on the same campus as the high school.

The IAAM has a rule that says no middle school girls can play jv or V

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there an overall rule with Middle Schoolers playing on Varsity? or is it district to district. Are most 8th grade travel kids playing on varsity in suffolk and nassau?

NYS has a waiver that must be completed in order for middle school aged kids to play Hs sports (jv or varsity) you must prove physical maturity and ability In addition each district has there own way of thinking No not all 8 th graders are pulled up.

Only exceptional 8th graders are pulled up. Not only do they have to pass a maturity test, in many districts they also need to guaranteed minimum 50% playing time. This means they need to be as good or better than current starters. Not easy to do in a good district.

Not in some schools. Parents play the game the right way with the coach and kids that weren't even impact players in middle school and play on low level club teams are being pulled up.

a lot of it has to do with exactly that.

In Sayville, the coach brought up six 8th graders last year because they played on the assistant coach's YJ team. There was clearly an arrangement between the asst. coach and the parents that if they came to his team then he would bring them up. Now the assistant coach is gone and the varsity team is stuck with the girls. FYI; Last year their JV team beat their Varsity team in a scrimmage because the head coach overlooked a lot of talented girls. There will be some very unhappy parents when their kids lose their spots to the girls who should have been brought up last year. Talk about a disaster.

Not true ony 4 of the girls who were brought to JV were on his YJ team, the others were from other teams. Coach is still there, just left his YJ coaching. No one is going to lose positions, because they graduated several senior starters and some girls are not coming back out for the team. Team still wont have a winning record with all those super freshman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in some schools. Parents play the game the right way with the coach and kids that weren't even impact players in middle school and play on low level club teams are being pulled up.

a lot of it has to do with exactly that.

In Sayville, the coach brought up six 8th graders last year because they played on the assistant coach's YJ team. There was clearly an arrangement between the asst. coach and the parents that if they came to his team then he would bring them up. Now the assistant coach is gone and the varsity team is stuck with the girls. FYI; Last year their JV team beat their Varsity team in a scrimmage because the head coach overlooked a lot of talented girls. There will be some very unhappy parents when their kids lose their spots to the girls who should have been brought up last year. Talk about a disaster.

Not true ony 4 of the girls who were brought to JV were on his YJ team, the others were from other teams. Coach is still there, just left his YJ coaching. No one is going to lose positions, because they graduated several senior starters and some girls are not coming back out for the team. Team still wont have a winning record with all those super freshman.

Super freshmen? Thanks for the scouting report mom. Any time Sayville is mentioned here it is in a negative manner. The coach must not be able to develop girls if he/she keeps bringing up 7th and 8th graders. That's why that program is completely irrelevant now and will be for the foreseeable future. Strong programs are built by exceptional coaches. Weak programs are brought down by incompetent ones.

My daughter is an 8th grader being brought up. She has been playing with the varsity team for over a year in tournaments and fits in well, and will most likely be a starter. This is where she belongs, she works extremely hard and we are proud of her accomplishments and bright future. Middle school would be a complete waste of time as it was last year, where she would be pulled for scoring too many goals. Not worried about the older girls one bit, they are a great bunch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not in some schools. Parents play the game the right way with the coach and kids that weren't even impact players in middle school and play on low level club teams are being pulled up.

a lot of it has to do with exactly that.

In Sayville, the coach brought up six 8th graders last year because they played on the assistant coach's YJ team. There was clearly an arrangement between the asst. coach and the parents that if they came to his team then he would bring them up. Now the assistant coach is gone and the varsity team is stuck with the girls. FYI; Last year their JV team beat their Varsity team in a scrimmage because the head coach overlooked a lot of talented girls. There will be some very unhappy parents when their kids lose their spots to the girls who should have been brought up last year. Talk about a disaster.

Not true ony 4 of the girls who were brought to JV were on his YJ team, the others were from other teams. Coach is still there, just left his YJ coaching. No one is going to lose positions, because they graduated several senior starters and some girls are not coming back out for the team. Team still wont have a winning record with all those super freshman.

Super freshmen? Thanks for the scouting report mom. Any time Sayville is mentioned here it is in a negative manner. The coach must not be able to develop girls if he/she keeps bringing up 7th and 8th graders. That's why that program is completely irrelevant now and will be for the foreseeable future. Strong programs are built by exceptional coaches. Weak programs are brought down by incompetent ones.

Didn't mean super freshman as a compliment. Not a Sayville fan.

To the Sayville parent who wrote about the 8th grade girls being brought up you are out of your mind!!! Six girls were brought up and two went to Varsity and 4 went to JV. The two on varsity made large contributions to a team with all of 18 girls on it. The 4 on JV were the 4 best on the team and the JV would not have won many games if any without them. Those 6 girls bust their butt and play all year round!!! While your daughter and you complain that they are taking her deserved playing time without putting the time in herself!! Either that or you think just because your daughter is older she deserves to play, go scratch!!! I love parents who think that my angel plays so she deserves to start, nonsense!!! When you are in your pool or at the beach in the summer these girls are sweating their jerks off and playing top competition to get better!!! You want your daughter to play its very simple get BETTER!!!!!

High Point and UNC - UNC gettign away with a lot of contact. Lady ref giving the ball to UNC on a shot attempt from HPU, what was she watching.

great game to watch to see how Offensives and defenses play

Got to love the YJ Elite parents! Boy do they think they and their kids are entitled. Its terrible to root against children but it is a little refreshing when little Shannon shows up to HS and thinks because she is wearing YJ swag from head to toe that she is a guaranteed starter. Then some "athlete" that plays 3 sports a year shows up and takes her spot even though she doesn't play travel lax.

Spring sports start in March so what gives?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to love the YJ Elite parents! Boy do they think they and their kids are entitled. Its terrible to root against children but it is a little refreshing when little Shannon shows up to HS and thinks because she is wearing YJ swag from head to toe that she is a guaranteed starter. Then some "athlete" that plays 3 sports a year shows up and takes her spot even though she doesn't play travel lax.

Carolina rules. Watch any ACC game and watch the outsiders lose every time. The mid-major was not going to be allowed to upset the tobacco cart.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter is an 8th grader being brought up. She has been playing with the varsity team for over a year in tournaments and fits in well, and will most likely be a starter. This is where she belongs, she works extremely hard and we are proud of her accomplishments and bright future. Middle school would be a complete waste of time as it was last year, where she would be pulled for scoring too many goals. Not worried about the older girls one bit, they are a great bunch!

you must be at a smaller school. good for her and youre lucky its a great bunch. not so in many towns. if it is a good fit....why not. but if its not why rebels it. most middle schoolers will sit on the bench

What everyone is forgetting about with these 8th graders is, we arent talking about all 8th graders just a dozen or so. I do agree some districts pull up uselessly, maybe club connections maybe family connections and others dont pull up and should. It goes both ways.

I do think the talented 8th graders should play JV and if they prove themselves on JV get pulled if if the need exists. Everyone is quick to say the coaches don't build a program, but by building you need a good farm system (JV team).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the Sayville parent who wrote about the 8th grade girls being brought up you are out of your mind!!! Six girls were brought up and two went to Varsity and 4 went to JV. The two on varsity made large contributions to a team with all of 18 girls on it. The 4 on JV were the 4 best on the team and the JV would not have won many games if any without them. Those 6 girls bust their butt and play all year round!!! While your daughter and you complain that they are taking her deserved playing time without putting the time in herself!! Either that or you think just because your daughter is older she deserves to play, go scratch!!! I love parents who think that my angel plays so she deserves to start, nonsense!!! When you are in your pool or at the beach in the summer these girls are sweating their jerks off and playing top competition to get better!!! You want your daughter to play its very simple get BETTER!!!!!

Hey Mom settled down. Love to hear from you in 2-3 years. love the coment above abou tthe 3 sport athlete

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter is an 8th grader being brought up. She has been playing with the varsity team for over a year in tournaments and fits in well, and will most likely be a starter. This is where she belongs, she works extremely hard and we are proud of her accomplishments and bright future. Middle school would be a complete waste of time as it was last year, where she would be pulled for scoring too many goals. Not worried about the older girls one bit, they are a great bunch!

Maybe your superstar wouldn't be "pulled for scoring too many goals" if she passed the ball once in a while. I've never heard of a player being pulled for too many assists. GO TO GOAL!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter is an 8th grader being brought up. She has been playing with the varsity team for over a year in tournaments and fits in well, and will most likely be a starter. This is where she belongs, she works extremely hard and we are proud of her accomplishments and bright future. Middle school would be a complete waste of time as it was last year, where she would be pulled for scoring too many goals. Not worried about the older girls one bit, they are a great bunch!

Maybe your superstar wouldn't be "pulled for scoring too many goals" if she passed the ball once in a while. I've never heard of a player being pulled for too many assists. GO TO GOAL!!!!

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter is an 8th grader being brought up. She has been playing with the varsity team for over a year in tournaments and fits in well, and will most likely be a starter. This is where she belongs, she works extremely hard and we are proud of her accomplishments and bright future. Middle school would be a complete waste of time as it was last year, where she would be pulled for scoring too many goals. Not worried about the older girls one bit, they are a great bunch!

Maybe your superstar wouldn't be "pulled for scoring too many goals" if she passed the ball once in a while. I've never heard of a player being pulled for too many assists. GO TO GOAL!!!!

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

GO TO GOAL !!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

The flip side being your daughter thinking she is a one-woman show and trying to power through all defenders and turning over the ball. There's no glory there and yet we see it all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

The flip side being your daughter thinking she is a one-woman show and trying to power through all defenders and turning over the ball. There's no glory there and yet we see it all the time.

You can’t win if you’re not scoring goals. Bottom line. From what I see there are very few teams have enough depth where there is confidence that the ball will be caught and a turnover will not happen. Yea, if you play for Mt Sinai, good passing is a luxury they enjoy, due to how serious the majority of girls take lacrosse, for many other teams/schools, there are only 4-5 girls with that level of talent so the best chance to win means keeping the ball in those girls stick. I know how hard my own daughter works and am also quite aware of the lack of work of the girls whose parents are complaining. That being said, you can’t play by yourself, so I really hope to see some girls step up their effort.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

The flip side being your daughter thinking she is a one-woman show and trying to power through all defenders and turning over the ball. There's no glory there and yet we see it all the time.

You can’t win if you’re not scoring goals. Bottom line. From what I see there are very few teams have enough depth where there is confidence that the ball will be caught and a turnover will not happen. Yea, if you play for Mt Sinai, good passing is a luxury they enjoy, due to how serious the majority of girls take lacrosse, for many other teams/schools, there are only 4-5 girls with that level of talent so the best chance to win means keeping the ball in those girls stick. I know how hard my own daughter works and am also quite aware of the lack of work of the girls whose parents are complaining. That being said, you can’t play by yourself, so I really hope to see some girls step up their effort.

Is this a joke?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

The flip side being your daughter thinking she is a one-woman show and trying to power through all defenders and turning over the ball. There's no glory there and yet we see it all the time.

You can’t win if you’re not scoring goals. Bottom line. From what I see there are very few teams have enough depth where there is confidence that the ball will be caught and a turnover will not happen. Yea, if you play for Mt Sinai, good passing is a luxury they enjoy, due to how serious the majority of girls take lacrosse, for many other teams/schools, there are only 4-5 girls with that level of talent so the best chance to win means keeping the ball in those girls stick. I know how hard my own daughter works and am also quite aware of the lack of work of the girls whose parents are complaining. That being said, you can’t play by yourself, so I really hope to see some girls step up their effort.

You must be a real treat on the sidelines. Let me guess. Your daughter plays for YJ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

The flip side being your daughter thinking she is a one-woman show and trying to power through all defenders and turning over the ball. There's no glory there and yet we see it all the time.

You can’t win if you’re not scoring goals. Bottom line. From what I see there are very few teams have enough depth where there is confidence that the ball will be caught and a turnover will not happen. Yea, if you play for Mt Sinai, good passing is a luxury they enjoy, due to how serious the majority of girls take lacrosse, for many other teams/schools, there are only 4-5 girls with that level of talent so the best chance to win means keeping the ball in those girls stick. I know how hard my own daughter works and am also quite aware of the lack of work of the girls whose parents are complaining. That being said, you can’t play by yourself, so I really hope to see some girls step up their effort.

Is this a joke?

Nope, it's the reason why some teams are great, and some aren't. Some HS teams have 10-15 high level commits, where others have 2-3. Not saying every HS player wants to go on and play in college, but it's tough when some girls take the sport very seriously and others could care less. But it's those that don't do anything to get better who complain that nobody passes to them!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

The flip side being your daughter thinking she is a one-woman show and trying to power through all defenders and turning over the ball. There's no glory there and yet we see it all the time.

You can’t win if you’re not scoring goals. Bottom line. From what I see there are very few teams have enough depth where there is confidence that the ball will be caught and a turnover will not happen. Yea, if you play for Mt Sinai, good passing is a luxury they enjoy, due to how serious the majority of girls take lacrosse, for many other teams/schools, there are only 4-5 girls with that level of talent so the best chance to win means keeping the ball in those girls stick. I know how hard my own daughter works and am also quite aware of the lack of work of the girls whose parents are complaining. That being said, you can’t play by yourself, so I really hope to see some girls step up their effort.

Is this a joke?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty

Maybe if you taught your daughter how to catch the ball, and not turn it over every time it's passed to her. My daughter loves to assist goals, just as much as scoring in fact. In middle school the talent level is too low for this to work, which is why certain girls should not be playing there. Sorry, just the truth.

The flip side being your daughter thinking she is a one-woman show and trying to power through all defenders and turning over the ball. There's no glory there and yet we see it all the time.

You can’t win if you’re not scoring goals. Bottom line. From what I see there are very few teams have enough depth where there is confidence that the ball will be caught and a turnover will not happen. Yea, if you play for Mt Sinai, good passing is a luxury they enjoy, due to how serious the majority of girls take lacrosse, for many other teams/schools, there are only 4-5 girls with that level of talent so the best chance to win means keeping the ball in those girls stick. I know how hard my own daughter works and am also quite aware of the lack of work of the girls whose parents are complaining. That being said, you can’t play by yourself, so I really hope to see some girls step up their effort.

Is this a joke?

Pretty accurate. Harsh but accurate. Get your kid to a clinic and on the Wall.

I love it! the club parent that everyone hates. My girl is great. She puts the time in. She's getting recruited. Your kid can't keep up so my daughter has to score 10 a game instead of passing. Its painful to share a sideline with people like this but unfortunately this is the club parent mentality and usually a YJ parent

With those comments that girl will never get recruited due to her stunad parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With those comments that girl will never get recruited due to her stunad parent.

despite the disdain, those girls get recruited all the time. I have shared the sidelines with some of the biggest stunad parents (YJ and TG included, not to mention many others in and out of NY) and have seen their kids get recruited to top D1 schools despite them. In fact, let's face it, if the kid is flashy and scoring goals she'll get noticed, and as much as the college coaches preach teamwork, and parents sideline behavior, and social media smarts talent trumps it all. FTR, i'm not a bitter parent, my daughter doesn't steal the show on the field, and as parents don't say much during or after games, but she did commit to a top 20 program on her own merit. Furthermore, I don't think it's beneficial for talented players to be stuck on Middle School teams with kids that can't catch, but if it has to happen because the HS is too deep to take more girls then stink it up. Part of the process

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it! the club parent that everyone hates. My girl is great. She puts the time in. She's getting recruited. Your kid can't keep up so my daughter has to score 10 a game instead of passing. Its painful to share a sideline with people like this but unfortunately this is the club parent mentality and usually a YJ parent

You are correct. Many of the so called "club parents" are very tough to listen to or to be around. We have some that are beyond obnoxious, their actions and manipulation behind the scene, their comments, coaching and yelling on the sideline as well as their social media nonsense are all distasteful and overbearing. These parents have hijacked the sport, most of them know very little about the game or competitive team sports in general. There are very few "legit" players in each class on Long Island. The problem is that many of the parents think that because their daughter is going to play Division I that she is an elite player (not the case). I have a 2019 committed to a mid level DI program and no, my kid is not elite. Maybe there on 10 - 12 players per year on Long Island who are "high-end, legit, elite" players. Girls lacrosse is not girls soccer or basketball. In lacrosse If you put in the work you can play DI. By the way, the majority of the offensive "club parents" are not the parents of the kids going to Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern etc... they are the parents of players going to mid to low-end programs. Here is a dose of reality for the odious "club parents".

Marist... is not Maryland.
Vermont... is not Virginia.
New Hampshire... is not Northwestern.
Cornell... is not Carolina.
BU..... is not BC.

It is what it is.

If you want to know where your daughter stands just look at the programs that are making offers. If it's Carolina, Maryland, Boston College, Northwestern, Duke, Virginia etc.. it's pretty safe to say that your kid is "legit". On the other hand, if the offers are coming from UConn, Lehigh, Delaware, Drexel etc... she is most likely not a high-end player. Not disrespecting players or programs just pointing out reality to the deplorable.

Hope some of the loathsome "club parents" tone it down a bit. Not all are abhorrent...

Sorry for the soapbox rant : ) ... Had to get it out before the season begins.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it! the club parent that everyone hates. My girl is great. She puts the time in. She's getting recruited. Your kid can't keep up so my daughter has to score 10 a game instead of passing. Its painful to share a sideline with people like this but unfortunately this is the club parent mentality and usually a YJ parent

You are correct. Many of the so called "club parents" are very tough to listen to or to be around. We have some that are beyond obnoxious, their actions and manipulation behind the scene, their comments, coaching and yelling on the sideline as well as their social media nonsense are all distasteful and overbearing. These parents have hijacked the sport, most of them know very little about the game or competitive team sports in general. There are very few "legit" players in each class on Long Island. The problem is that many of the parents think that because their daughter is going to play Division I that she is an elite player (not the case). I have a 2019 committed to a mid level DI program and no, my kid is not elite. Maybe there on 10 - 12 players per year on Long Island who are "high-end, legit, elite" players. Girls lacrosse is not girls soccer or basketball. In lacrosse If you put in the work you can play DI. By the way, the majority of the offensive "club parents" are not the parents of the kids going to Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern etc... they are the parents of players going to mid to low-end programs. Here is a dose of reality for the odious "club parents".

Marist... is not Maryland.
Vermont... is not Virginia.
New Hampshire... is not Northwestern.
Cornell... is not Carolina.
BU..... is not BC.

It is what it is.

If you want to know where your daughter stands just look at the programs that are making offers. If it's Carolina, Maryland, Boston College, Northwestern, Duke, Virginia etc.. it's pretty safe to say that your kid is "legit". On the other hand, if the offers are coming from UConn, Lehigh, Delaware, Drexel etc... she is most likely not a high-end player. Not disrespecting players or programs just pointing out reality to the deplorable.

Hope some of the loathsome "club parents" tone it down a bit. Not all are abhorrent...

Sorry for the soapbox rant : ) ... Had to get it out before the season begins.

Im not sure what your point is? All of these are good schools? For the smart "club parenT" which I am .... my daughter is looking at the quality of educATION SHE will be getting above all else. Is it a good fit? You don't have to be the top ten elite athlete to get the most of what lax can offer? We are not going to the olympics, we are not going PRO after college...so if I look at that list...my kid would be looking at Cornell and VT....seriously...what is the point....here ????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it! the club parent that everyone hates. My girl is great. She puts the time in. She's getting recruited. Your kid can't keep up so my daughter has to score 10 a game instead of passing. Its painful to share a sideline with people like this but unfortunately this is the club parent mentality and usually a YJ parent

You are correct. Many of the so called "club parents" are very tough to listen to or to be around. We have some that are beyond obnoxious, their actions and manipulation behind the scene, their comments, coaching and yelling on the sideline as well as their social media nonsense are all distasteful and overbearing. These parents have hijacked the sport, most of them know very little about the game or competitive team sports in general. There are very few "legit" players in each class on Long Island. The problem is that many of the parents think that because their daughter is going to play Division I that she is an elite player (not the case). I have a 2019 committed to a mid level DI program and no, my kid is not elite. Maybe there on 10 - 12 players per year on Long Island who are "high-end, legit, elite" players. Girls lacrosse is not girls soccer or basketball. In lacrosse If you put in the work you can play DI. By the way, the majority of the offensive "club parents" are not the parents of the kids going to Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern etc... they are the parents of players going to mid to low-end programs. Here is a dose of reality for the odious "club parents".

Marist... is not Maryland.
Vermont... is not Virginia.
New Hampshire... is not Northwestern.
Cornell... is not Carolina.
BU..... is not BC.

It is what it is.

If you want to know where your daughter stands just look at the programs that are making offers. If it's Carolina, Maryland, Boston College, Northwestern, Duke, Virginia etc.. it's pretty safe to say that your kid is "legit". On the other hand, if the offers are coming from UConn, Lehigh, Delaware, Drexel etc... she is most likely not a high-end player. Not disrespecting players or programs just pointing out reality to the deplorable.

Hope some of the loathsome "club parents" tone it down a bit. Not all are abhorrent...

Sorry for the soapbox rant : ) ... Had to get it out before the season begins.

Im not sure what your point is? All of these are good schools? For the smart "club parenT" which I am .... my daughter is looking at the quality of educATION SHE will be getting above all else. Is it a good fit? You don't have to be the top ten elite athlete to get the most of what lax can offer? We are not going to the olympics, we are not going PRO after college...so if I look at that list...my kid would be looking at Cornell and VT....seriously...what is the point....here ????

Actually....lacrosse is about to become an Olympic sport!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it! the club parent that everyone hates. My girl is great. She puts the time in. She's getting recruited. Your kid can't keep up so my daughter has to score 10 a game instead of passing. Its painful to share a sideline with people like this but unfortunately this is the club parent mentality and usually a YJ parent

You are correct. Many of the so called "club parents" are very tough to listen to or to be around. We have some that are beyond obnoxious, their actions and manipulation behind the scene, their comments, coaching and yelling on the sideline as well as their social media nonsense are all distasteful and overbearing. These parents have hijacked the sport, most of them know very little about the game or competitive team sports in general. There are very few "legit" players in each class on Long Island. The problem is that many of the parents think that because their daughter is going to play Division I that she is an elite player (not the case). I have a 2019 committed to a mid level DI program and no, my kid is not elite. Maybe there on 10 - 12 players per year on Long Island who are "high-end, legit, elite" players. Girls lacrosse is not girls soccer or basketball. In lacrosse If you put in the work you can play DI. By the way,
the majority of the offensive "club parents" are not the parents of the kids going to Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern etc... they are the parents of players going to mid to low-end programs. Here is a dose of reality for the odious "club parents".

Marist... is not Maryland.
Vermont... is not Virginia.
New Hampshire... is not Northwestern.
Cornell... is not Carolina.
BU..... is not BC.

It is what it is.

If you want to know where your daughter stands just look at the programs that are making offers. If it's Carolina, Maryland, Boston College, Northwestern, Duke, Virginia etc.. it's pretty safe to say that your kid is "legit". On the other hand, if the offers are coming from UConn, Lehigh, Delaware, Drexel etc... she is most likely not a high-end player. Not disrespecting players or programs just pointing out reality to the deplorable.

Hope some of the loathsome "club parents" tone it down a bit. Not all are abhorrent...

Sorry for the soapbox rant : ) ... Had to get it out before the season begins.

Im not sure what your point is? All of these are good schools? For the smart "club parenT" which I am .... my daughter is looking at the quality of educATION SHE will be getting above all else. Is it a good fit? You don't have to be the top ten elite athlete to get the most of what lax can offer? We are not going to the olympics, we are not going PRO after college...so if I look at that list...my kid would be looking at Cornell and VT....seriously...what is the point....here ????

Don’t fool yourself you are not all that smart. Quality of education and you pick VT . Of the schools mentioned you are way off base.

What's the point???? clearly you are one of those parents if you don't get what the point is. I am sure I will see you at HS games this spring yelling for your kid to go to goal when the team is up by 20. Make sure to save all those Newsday clippings. Have fun at Gardner Webb, LIU Brooklyn or Delaware state. The LI clubs like to send their studs there after all its D1!

Makes the $50 grand you spent on club all worth it. $7,500 a year to go to one of the schools is like hitting LOTTO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it! the club parent that everyone hates. My girl is great. She puts the time in. She's getting recruited. Your kid can't keep up so my daughter has to score 10 a game instead of passing. Its painful to share a sideline with people like this but unfortunately this is the club parent mentality and usually a YJ parent

You are correct. Many of the so called "club parents" are very tough to listen to or to be around. We have some that are beyond obnoxious, their actions and manipulation behind the scene, their comments, coaching and yelling on the sideline as well as their social media nonsense are all distasteful and overbearing. These parents have hijacked the sport, most of them know very little about the game or competitive team sports in general. There are very few "legit" players in each class on Long Island. The problem is that many of the parents think that because their daughter is going to play Division I that she is an elite player (not the case). I have a 2019 committed to a mid level DI program and no, my kid is not elite. Maybe there on 10 - 12 players per year on Long Island who are "high-end, legit, elite" players. Girls lacrosse is not girls soccer or basketball. In lacrosse If you put in the work you can play DI. By the way,
the majority of the offensive "club parents" are not the parents of the kids going to Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern etc... they are the parents of players going to mid to low-end programs. Here is a dose of reality for the odious "club parents".

Marist... is not Maryland.
Vermont... is not Virginia.
New Hampshire... is not Northwestern.
Cornell... is not Carolina.
BU..... is not BC.

It is what it is.

If you want to know where your daughter stands just look at the programs that are making offers. If it's Carolina, Maryland, Boston College, Northwestern, Duke, Virginia etc.. it's pretty safe to say that your kid is "legit". On the other hand, if the offers are coming from UConn, Lehigh, Delaware, Drexel etc... she is most likely not a high-end player. Not disrespecting players or programs just pointing out reality to the deplorable.

Hope some of the loathsome "club parents" tone it down a bit. Not all are abhorrent...

Sorry for the soapbox rant : ) ... Had to get it out before the season begins.

Im not sure what your point is? All of these are good schools? For the smart "club parenT" which I am .... my daughter is looking at the quality of educATION SHE will be getting above all else. Is it a good fit? You don't have to be the top ten elite athlete to get the most of what lax can offer? We are not going to the olympics, we are not going PRO after college...so if I look at that list...my kid would be looking at Cornell and VT....seriously...what is the point....here ????

Don’t fool yourself you are not all that smart. Quality of education and you pick VT . Of the schools mentioned you are way off base.

Be happy if your daughter is playing in HS and even happier if she will have the opportunity to compete in college at any level. The post was obviously directed at a certain segment of parents. Not all "club parents" are obnoxious but there are definitely certain ones who are absolutely too much. The ones who coach from the sideline, constantly encourage their daughter to "go to goal", know nothing about the game (yet talk as if they are an authority), contact HS coaches and athletic directors behind the scene, boast of their daughters ability and accolades, bash other players who garner more accolades or attention from college coaches, rip UA, IL etc... every time their daughter is not selected or recognized, make excuse after excuse why their daughter did not make a list or team or receive offers from top college programs. These are the same parents who go nuts on the sideline when players other than their daughter drop a pass, miss a shot, lose the ball, get beat on D etc... They think their daughter is a superstar but she is not. Most of the time the daughter is a decent player but not really high-end. The problem is the parents refuse to see it, they think she is a stud.

As far as education goes, lacrosse should be used to get into the best school possible and possibly help to make education more affordable.

The top players will have their choice of schools. All other players will find a good fit but they generally will not be able to choose a top program.

Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia, Penn State, Boston College, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn, Stanford, Duke, USC, Georgetown, Hopkins, Syracuse, Loyola, Florida are more times than not the destinations for the best HS players. Stony Brook has obviously had some incredible players the past several years but I have been told that those players were slightly under the radar in HS (not sure that I buy that completely).

For the most part, all of the other schools recruit the players that the above do not take.

Maybe one of the points of the other post was to tell the obnoxious parents to pipe down a bit, you kid is good but not as good as you think. If she were as good as you think she would be going to BC, UNC, Northwestern, Maryland etc... sit back and enjoy the game, stop coaching from the sideline, stop telling your kid to shoot every time she touches the ball, stop bashing the weaker players, stop politicking etc... enjoy the ride and be happy if she finds a great school to go to.

"As far as education goes, lacrosse should be used to get into the best school possible and possibly help to make education more affordable. "
Agree with most of your post except this. Just because you can get into Vanderbilt does not mean you should go there , school needs to be a good academic and social fit etc. Have heard from several players and parents that if their kid had it to do again they would pick another school for many different reasons, sometimes just being in a different time zone ie the west coast is just too far from home etc.

For you newbies you do realize that your kid will be going to college to major in lacrosse right? She will spend more time on the sport then she ever will on her education as most teams are a full time. Pick a school that she would want to stay at if she quit the team or got injured. Cant keep count of how many kids my daughters know that went from being the go to club girl to riding the bench in college becoming disenchanting with the sport and the school and transferring out. If its the right school the lax is gravy

Another factor to think about is the D1 stars usually are majoring in advanced liberal arts women studies or communications because they can't handle the academics. Look on the Ivy rosters even and you will see girls who wasted 4 years playing lacrosse. No one besides lax crazy parents even care about college lax . Let them find the right fit of academics with lacrosse being a student athlete not athlete student.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another factor to think about is the D1 stars usually are majoring in advanced liberal arts women studies or communications because they can't handle the academics. Look on the Ivy rosters even and you will see girls who wasted 4 years playing lacrosse. No one besides lax crazy parents even care about college lax . Let them find the right fit of academics with lacrosse being a student athlete not athlete student.

Wasted??? My older daughter is at a top 50 school with a business minor. She did two high level internships and will graduate with a job lined up in finance for a big time company where she will be trained. Don’t underestimate the connections and alumni network. Nobody cares what your major is. Good athletes get good jobs due to their work ethic. Now stop whining and teach your daughter to catch the ball. Can’t stand the notIntelligent jealous posts!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it! the club parent that everyone hates. My girl is great. She puts the time in. She's getting recruited. Your kid can't keep up so my daughter has to score 10 a game instead of passing. Its painful to share a sideline with people like this but unfortunately this is the club parent mentality and usually a YJ parent

You are correct. Many of the so called "club parents" are very tough to listen to or to be around. We have some that are beyond obnoxious, their actions and manipulation behind the scene, their comments, coaching and yelling on the sideline as well as their social media nonsense are all distasteful and overbearing. These parents have hijacked the sport, most of them know very little about the game or competitive team sports in general. There are very few "legit" players in each class on Long Island. The problem is that many of the parents think that because their daughter is going to play Division I that she is an elite player (not the case). I have a 2019 committed to a mid level DI program and no, my kid is not elite. Maybe there on 10 - 12 players per year on Long Island who are "high-end, legit, elite" players. Girls lacrosse is not girls soccer or basketball. In lacrosse If you put in the work you can play DI. By the way,
the majority of the offensive "club parents" are not the parents of the kids going to Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern etc... they are the parents of players going to mid to low-end programs. Here is a dose of reality for the odious "club parents".

Marist... is not Maryland.
Vermont... is not Virginia.
New Hampshire... is not Northwestern.
Cornell... is not Carolina.
BU..... is not BC.

It is what it is.

If you want to know where your daughter stands just look at the programs that are making offers. If it's Carolina, Maryland, Boston College, Northwestern, Duke, Virginia etc.. it's pretty safe to say that your kid is "legit". On the other hand, if the offers are coming from UConn, Lehigh, Delaware, Drexel etc... she is most likely not a high-end player. Not disrespecting players or programs just pointing out reality to the deplorable.

Hope some of the loathsome "club parents" tone it down a bit. Not all are abhorrent...

Sorry for the soapbox rant : ) ... Had to get it out before the season begins.

Im not sure what your point is? All of these are good schools? For the smart "club parenT" which I am .... my daughter is looking at the quality of educATION SHE will be getting above all else. Is it a good fit? You don't have to be the top ten elite athlete to get the most of what lax can offer? We are not going to the olympics, we are not going PRO after college...so if I look at that list...my kid would be looking at Cornell and VT....seriously...what is the point....here ????

Don’t fool yourself you are not all that smart. Quality of education and you pick VT . Of the schools mentioned you are way off base.

Be happy if your daughter is playing in HS and even happier if she will have the opportunity to compete in college at any level. The post was obviously directed at a certain segment of parents. Not all "club parents" are obnoxious but there are definitely certain ones who are absolutely too much. The ones who coach from the sideline, constantly encourage their daughter to "go to goal", know nothing about the game (yet talk as if they are an authority), contact HS coaches and athletic directors behind the scene, boast of their daughters ability and accolades, bash other players who garner more accolades or attention from college coaches, rip UA, IL etc... every time their daughter is not selected or recognized, make excuse after excuse why their daughter did not make a list or team or receive offers from top college programs. These are the same parents who go nuts on the sideline when players other than their daughter drop a pass, miss a shot, lose the ball, get beat on D etc... They think their daughter is a superstar but she is not. Most of the time the daughter is a decent player but not really high-end. The problem is the parents refuse to see it, they think she is a stud.

As far as education goes, lacrosse should be used to get into the best school possible and possibly help to make education more affordable.

The top players will have their choice of schools. All other players will find a good fit but they generally will not be able to choose a top program.

Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia, Penn State, Boston College, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Princeton, Penn, Stanford, Duke, USC, Georgetown, Hopkins, Syracuse, Loyola, Florida are more times than not the destinations for the best HS players. Stony Brook has obviously had some incredible players the past several years but I have been told that those players were slightly under the radar in HS (not sure that I buy that completely).

For the most part, all of the other schools recruit the players that the above do not take.

Maybe one of the points of the other post was to tell the obnoxious parents to pipe down a bit, you kid is good but not as good as you think. If she were as good as you think she would be going to BC, UNC, Northwestern, Maryland etc... sit back and enjoy the game, stop coaching from the sideline, stop telling your kid to shoot every time she touches the ball, stop bashing the weaker players, stop politicking etc... enjoy the ride and be happy if she finds a great school to go to.

Loyola- good lacrosse, mediocre academics, not too hard to get into

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another factor to think about is the D1 stars usually are majoring in advanced liberal arts women studies or communications because they can't handle the academics. Look on the Ivy rosters even and you will see girls who wasted 4 years playing lacrosse. No one besides lax crazy parents even care about college lax . Let them find the right fit of academics with lacrosse being a student athlete not athlete student.

My daughter was told engineering wasn't a good fit for her and the team. Now realistically she was a mid roster player so the coaches weren't cutting her much slack. My older daughter knows two girls who played for D1 teams ranked 75-100 where they were encouraged not to pursue nursing and now after they have graduated in four years they they are going back for another 2 years to a local school to get their nursing degrees. I don't get it but their parents were very happy they played in college

A lot of our club girls ended up at great D3 engineering schools instead and are now set for life and got to play and start every game for 4 years. My D was pre -med and had to take labs 7:30-10:30 at night after practices at a midlevel D1. The coach did not like it but she got it done and played a lot. Now she is in Medical school-not going back to school to start again. I think the parents like that the girls play , as much as the girls like to play. We personally did not have the extra money to waste.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another factor to think about is the D1 stars usually are majoring in advanced liberal arts women studies or communications because they can't handle the academics. Look on the Ivy rosters even and you will see girls who wasted 4 years playing lacrosse. No one besides lax crazy parents even care about college lax . Let them find the right fit of academics with lacrosse being a student athlete not athlete student.

Wasted??? My older daughter is at a top 50 school with a business minor. She did two high level internships and will graduate with a job lined up in finance for a big time company where she will be trained. Don’t underestimate the connections and alumni network. Nobody cares what your major is. Good athletes get good jobs due to their work ethic. Now stop whining and teach your daughter to catch the ball. Can’t stand the notIntelligent jealous posts!

Don't waste your time responding to the jealous haters. The haters have been on this site from the begining trying to tear down any player who is stronger than their daughter. They tear dow the players who go to the Top College Programs, they tear down the players who make Under Armour, they tear down "Division I" as a whole... You will hear the claims of how the player will never see the field, how 50% quit, how they will major in basket weaving, the only reason they were ranked by Inside Lacrosse is because their father is connected, the only reason they were recruited by ND is because of their club director etc... I can not count the times they bring up how D III is the far superior choice. Oh, and they love engineering and nursing... some would have you think that those are the only two majors worth pursuing. News flash many kids have no interest in either. The haters also frown upon coaching as a profession. I love the way they always phrase it : "my daughter chose DIII for the academics" as if DI academics stink. Most go DIII because they do not receive any offers from quality Division I programs.

These haters want us all to believe that if your daughter goes to play Division I she will: ride the bench, quit, transfer, study a meaningless major, waste her time, become a full time summer club coach and generally have very little success in life.

So, the moral of their story is.... You would be crazy to challenge yourself at one of the Top Lacrosse Programs and in many cases one of the Best Universities in the country... There is no way you will have success in life if you choose this route.

BTW... most of their daughters did not receive offers from any of the following...

Current Top 20

1 Boston College
2 North Carolina
3 Maryland
4 Stony Brook
5 Northwestern
6 Florida
7 Syracuse
8 Princeton
9 James Madison
10 Penn State
11 Virginia
12 Penn
13 Colorado
14 Johns Hopkins
15 Duke
16 Denver
17 Loyola
18 USC
19 Georgetown
20 Notre Dame
20 Navy

Throw in :

Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, Brown, Vanderbilt , Cornell, Dartmouth, Army West Point, Michigan, Bucknell, Colgate, Villanova, Davidson, Binghamton , Holy Cross, William & Mary, Cal Berkley etc.... (sorry if I missed your school)

I suggest you turn away from any of the above schools because there is no way your daughter will be successful if she chooses one of the above...

There is a "Fit" for everyone. Find the best first for your daughter and stop trying to make your daughters decision superior to all others by tearing other people down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another factor to think about is the D1 stars usually are majoring in advanced liberal arts women studies or communications because they can't handle the academics. Look on the Ivy rosters even and you will see girls who wasted 4 years playing lacrosse. No one besides lax crazy parents even care about college lax . Let them find the right fit of academics with lacrosse being a student athlete not athlete student.

Some of you really need to get a grip.

Just about all of the young women that I know who have graduated from schools such as Georgetown, Duke, Penn, Virginia, Northwestern, Penn State, Boston College etc... are doing very well.

Find the best fit for your daughter and stop trying to belittle the student athletes that are offered an opportunity to compete at the highest level and attend a great school. When I look at the list of the Top 20 Women's Lacrosse Programs it is hard to believe that the Top Players can't find a "great fit". Several excellent state schools, a couple of Ivy's, Southern, Northeast, Midwest, West Coast, Mid Atlantic etc which are all excellent schools. The top players can select the best fit and if they don't want to play at a top tier program I sure the coaches at the lower tiers will be more than willing to take them and make the finances work. Why do some of you want to knock the best players and the choices they make? Jealousy?

Below is a cut from an article in USNews titled "How Much Is an Ivy League Liberal Arts Degree Worth?" dated September 10, 2018.

"Sometimes what we see of philosophy majors coming out of these strong programs (Ivy), is that they're going into being top-tier banking analysts on Wall Street, or they're becoming intelligence analysts for the government. They're going into these upper-level positions where they can utilize those communication and critical thinking skills," Bardaro says."

There is a good fit for everyone. You sound foolish, bitter and jealous when you try to knock others.

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Still better than when they were verabaling in 8th grade!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Nothing is ever "set in stone". Players can change their mind at any time. They can decommit before they sign a "National Letter of Intent" (only scholarship athletes sign NLI's). They can decommit after signing but the coach must agree to release the player or the player will have to sit out of competition for one year. Most coaches will release the player because if they do not the coach can not use the scholarship $$ for another player. Coaches might choose not to release a player in certain situations, an example might be the player is going to a rival school (especially an in-conference school). The player can choose to transfer even after they are enrolled at a school (the same rules apply with regard to NLI as they are signed each year).

Coaches can withdraw their offer before the NLI is signed (it is rare but is does happen). Coaches can elect not to renew a schlorship but that is also rare but it can happen.

As in life, there is no perfect time. Things change, coaches leave, offers are withdrawn etc... Go through the process, do your due diligence, identify target schools (schools that your daughter believes would be a good fit) so that if offers are extended you can make a good decision. Be proactive, not reactive.

good luck, enjoy the ride

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Nothing is ever "set in stone". Players can change their mind at any time. They can decommit before they sign a "National Letter of Intent" (only scholarship athletes sign NLI's). They can decommit after signing but the coach must agree to release the player or the player will have to sit out of competition for one year. Most coaches will release the player because if they do not the coach can not use the scholarship $$ for another player. Coaches might choose not to release a player in certain situations, an example might be the player is going to a rival school (especially an in-conference school). The player can choose to transfer even after they are enroll ed at a school (the same rules apply with regard to NLI as they are signed each year).

Coaches can withdraw their offer before the NLI is signed (it is rare but is does happen). Coaches can elect not to renew a schlorship but that is also rare but it can happen.

As in life, there is no perfect time. Things change, coaches leave, offers are withdrawn etc... Go through the process, do your due diligence, identify target schools (schools that your daughter believes would be a good fit) so that if offers are extended you can make a good decision. Be proactive, not reactive.

good luck, enjoy the ride

First off why not commit to a school that your child really wants to attend, coaches never decommit from a player unless that player has not held up their end of the agreement, grades, stay out of trouble etc..Yes programs do change coaches but the same thing can happen when you are at the school. As far as coaches not renewing a scholarship most NLI are good for 4 years and the only way to lose it is again by not keeping u with your end ,grades and staying out of trouble.

Tryouts are next week!! My daughter enjoys playing, but I know that she isn't as good as other girls in her grade at school. Any pointers from other parents who are in the same boat? I'm worried she will be disappointed about the outcome and don't know how to console or motivate her? #helplessparent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are next week!! My daughter enjoys playing, but I know that she isn't as good as other girls in her grade at school. Any pointers from other parents who are in the same boat? I'm worried she will be disappointed about the outcome and don't know how to console or motivate her? #helplessparent

Tell her to play hard and try her best! If HS lacrosse is the biggest disappointment she has in life she’s a winner for sure no matter what happens..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Still better than when they were verabaling in 8th grade!!!!!!!

you say "they" like there were many. come on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Still better than when they were verabaling in 8th grade!!!!!!!

you say "they" like there were many. come on.

Correct but everyone was trying which meant it was s**t show. Its bad for the sport which is already too selfish already

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Nothing is ever "set in stone". Players can change their mind at any time. They can decommit before they sign a "National Letter of Intent" (only scholarship athletes sign NLI's). They can decommit after signing but the coach must agree to release the player or the player will have to sit out of competition for one year. Most coaches will release the player because if they do not the coach can not use the scholarship $$ for another player. Coaches might choose not to release a player in certain situations, an example might be the player is going to a rival school (especially an in-conference school). The player can choose to transfer even after they are enroll ed at a school (the same rules apply with regard to NLI as they are signed each year).

Coaches can withdraw their offer before the NLI is signed (it is rare but is does happen). Coaches can elect not to renew a schlorship but that is also rare but it can happen.

As in life, there is no perfect time. Things change, coaches leave, offers are withdrawn etc... Go through the process, do your due diligence, identify target schools (schools that your daughter believes would be a good fit) so that if offers are extended you can make a good decision. Be proactive, not reactive.

good luck, enjoy the ride

First off why not commit to a school that your child really wants to attend, coaches never decommit from a player unless that player has not held up their end of the agreement, grades, stay out of trouble etc..Yes programs do change coaches but the same thing can happen when you are at the school. As far as coaches not renewing a scholarship most NLI are good for 4 years and the only way to lose it is again by not keeping u with your end ,grades and staying out of trouble.

Not every player has the option of choosing the school they really want to attend. Most players settle for a school that they are offered a spot at.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK....What's the point in giving a Verbal Commitment from School and Player if can be revoked until signing day? What happens if a coach leaves that you've built up a relationship with? What happens if money is withdrawn or offered more from another school? Etc, etc... We are still rushing our girls to make decisions and pressure is on come Sept 1st for Jr year... yet nothing is still set in stone until signing day... Please explain.... players rights, coaches rights......contingencies

Nothing is ever "set in stone". Players can change their mind at any time. They can decommit before they sign a "National Letter of Intent" (only scholarship athletes sign NLI's). They can decommit after signing but the coach must agree to release the player or the player will have to sit out of competition for one year. Most coaches will release the player because if they do not the coach can not use the scholarship $$ for another player. Coaches might choose not to release a player in certain situations, an example might be the player is going to a rival school (especially an in-conference school). The player can choose to transfer even after they are enroll ed at a school (the same rules apply with regard to NLI as they are signed each year).

Coaches can withdraw their offer before the NLI is signed (it is rare but is does happen). Coaches can elect not to renew a schlorship but that is also rare but it can happen.

As in life, there is no perfect time. Things change, coaches leave, offers are withdrawn etc... Go through the process, do your due diligence, identify target schools (schools that your daughter believes would be a good fit) so that if offers are extended you can make a good decision. Be proactive, not reactive.

good luck, enjoy the ride

First off why not commit to a school that your child really wants to attend, coaches never decommit from a player unless that player has not held up their end of the agreement, grades, stay out of trouble etc..Yes programs do change coaches but the same thing can happen when you are at the school. As far as coaches not renewing a scholarship most NLI are good for 4 years and the only way to lose it is again by not keeping u with your end ,grades and staying out of trouble.

Not every player has the option of choosing the school they really want to attend. Most players settle for a school that they are offered a spot at.

Understatement of the year!
Maybe the top 25 players in the country have this luxury, where they will have the bulk of the top programs chasing them, and even at that, the "one" they really want may not be interested. And again you are correct about players/parents settling on a school that offers a spot. I feel parents are heck bent that kids are going to play in college, they spent all that time and all that money for all those years, to the point many are blind or too proud to step back and look at the reality of the situation.

Honestly you all sound crazy. A kid commits to a school early and you all go crazy that its a bad decision. Again how does or did it hurt any of these early commits. They commit to a school that they really want to attend ,when its time to sign a NLI they either sign or they dont. "Top 25 ..have this luxury" to commit to a school they really want to attend, so all the other commits are going to schools they dont want to attend, thats just foolish. Again if you wait to commit to a school what makes you think you will have more options. Its sort of like the hold back discussions, is it an advantage , absolutely , will people try to knock your decision to do it , absolutely. Honestly wish I would have held mine back but at the time I would have been too proud or worried about people thinking my kid was "behind" in some way.

For the Ivy League Schools in which there is no money given for sports but financial based only, how do you find out and when do you find out what that aid is/will be? How can you make a decision when you don't know what all the pieces may be? So if there are Div 1 and Ivy's interested money does play a factor. How do you negotiate this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Ivy League Schools in which there is no money given for sports but financial based only, how do you find out and when do you find out what that aid is/will be? How can you make a decision when you don't know what all the pieces may be? So if there are Div 1 and Ivy's interested money does play a factor. How do you negotiate this?

there is no negotiating, if you want need based aid you must fill out a ton of forms with your entire financial life story and they will tell you the number, most have tuition calculators on their website that will give you an idea of the need based money you might get, also might be some other grant money, but wouldn't count on that being a big number

The Ivies are ideal for the very rich and for the very poor, not so ideal for everyone in between, which is where most of us would fall. Been down this road several times and would say some of the early commits seemed like the right choice for many of those who did decide early. But... also saw “the race” every year, that some kids and parents were in to try to commit before everyone else, like it actually had some kind of bearing where their kid stood in the pecking order of player status. I have literally seen kids go visit the first college that showed interest , get an offer and verbally accept. And not the “dream school” that was the plan from years prior, merely trying to be one of the early ones to commit. Here is how I have seen it play out several times... a few schools reach out and make offers, then a few more, and both your eyes and your kids eyes will be opened, every so often by visisting as many schools as possible. I’ve gone from my kid can’t imaging going to any other school after visiting and meeting with coaches with an offer, only to watch them drop that school to second, third on the list after meeting with the next set of coaches at the next school, and then the next. The best advice anyone will ever give you is to go do your due diligence and visit as many schools as possible and meet with as many coaches as possible, it is not a race. When the coach has you targeted they will allow you the time for this process. Luckily with the new common start date for communication, hopefully you will see the race to be the first to commit, out the window (although it is entertaining to watch). What will be interesting is that in the past some programs were notorious for reaching out early, others were firm not to do this and the offers, or would be offers would stretch out over a year or two, but many of the early bidders wanted an answer long before other programs would even consider putting an offer in on such young kids. I don’t think any player ever got the full realm of possibilities layed out for them just because many schools philosophy of recruiting timelines were so different. Now these kids (the very top ones anyway) will basically be able to entertain a mountain of offers all coming in at the same time on opening bell. Good luck and be patient.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Ivy League Schools in which there is no money given for sports but financial based only, how do you find out and when do you find out what that aid is/will be? How can you make a decision when you don't know what all the pieces may be? So if there are Div 1 and Ivy's interested money does play a factor. How do you negotiate this?

Thats a great question... Ive sent a few kids thru college ( not Ivy) and received zero financial aid.. If you own a home on LI and make high 5 figure salary or higher .. dont expect any money from any college or FASFA.
You'd be better off getting divorced and have the one parent with the lower income have custody and have the financials based on this..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ivies are ideal for the very rich and for the very poor, not so ideal for everyone in between, which is where most of us would fall. Been down this road several times and would say some of the early commits seemed like the right choice for many of those who did decide early. But... also saw “the race” every year, that some kids and parents were in to try to commit before everyone else, like it actually had some kind of bearing where their kid stood in the pecking order of player status. I have literally seen kids go visit the first college that showed interest , get an offer and verbally accept. And not the “dream school” that was the plan from years prior, merely trying to be one of the early ones to commit. Here is how I have seen it play out several times... a few schools reach out and make offers, then a few more, and both your eyes and your kids eyes will be opened, every so often by visisting as many schools as possible. I’ve gone from my kid can’t imaging going to any other school after visiting and meeting with coaches with an offer, only to watch them drop that school to second, third on the list after meeting with the next set of coaches at the next school, and then the next. The best advice anyone will ever give you is to go do your due diligence and visit as many schools as possible and meet with as many coaches as possible, it is not a race. When the coach has you targeted they will allow you the time for this process. Luckily with the new common start date for communication, hopefully you will see the race to be the first to commit, out the window (although it is entertaining to watch). What will be interesting is that in the past some programs were notorious for reaching out early, others were firm not to do this and the offers, or would be offers would stretch out over a year or two, but many of the early bidders wanted an answer long before other programs would even consider putting an offer in on such young kids. I don’t think any player ever got the full realm of possibilities layed out for them just because many schools philosophy of recruiting timelines were so different. Now these kids (the very top ones anyway) will basically be able to entertain a mountain of offers all coming in at the same time on opening bell. Good luck and be patient.

a lot of misinformation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Ivy League Schools in which there is no money given for sports but financial based only, how do you find out and when do you find out what that aid is/will be? How can you make a decision when you don't know what all the pieces may be? So if there are Div 1 and Ivy's interested money does play a factor. How do you negotiate this?

Thats a great question... Ive sent a few kids thru college ( not Ivy) and received zero financial aid.. If you own a home on LI and make high 5 figure salary or higher .. dont expect any money from any college or FASFA.
You'd be better off getting divorced and have the one parent with the lower income have custody and have the financials based on this..

Truth. I also have sent several D1 athletes through. All had a combination of athletic and merit awards. One had much more merit money, one was split near 50/50, and one started out with much more merit but ended up with much more athletic money. So for my two cents, money spent on a tutor and teaching study skills is worth more than private training.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Ivy League Schools in which there is no money given for sports but financial based only, how do you find out and when do you find out what that aid is/will be? How can you make a decision when you don't know what all the pieces may be? So if there are Div 1 and Ivy's interested money does play a factor. How do you negotiate this?

Thats a great question... Ive sent a few kids thru college ( not Ivy) and received zero financial aid.. If you own a home on LI and make high 5 figure salary or higher .. dont expect any money from any college or FASFA.
You'd be better off getting divorced and have the one parent with the lower income have custody and have the financials based on this..

Truth. I also have sent several D1 athletes through. All had a combination of athletic and merit awards. One had much more merit money, one was split near 50/50, and one started out with much more merit but ended up with much more athletic money. So for my two cents, money spent on a tutor and teaching study skills is worth more than private training.

So if Ivy's are in the mix of D1's you have to do your math ahead of time with the financial aid package to see what if any you would get. Ivy's offer the opportunity for a great student to get into an Ivy through LAX when they may not have gotten in? The crazy race if the dates haven't been moved yet would be Sept 1st and the start of communication. How soon are roosters completed by the D 1's? How much real time does a student athlete have to really give a verbal? How soon/late in the talks are scholarships talked about? How many official college visits are allowed? What questions should be asked of the Coaches Schools? What should we be asking but aren't?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Ivy League Schools in which there is no money given for sports but financial based only, how do you find out and when do you find out what that aid is/will be? How can you make a decision when you don't know what all the pieces may be? So if there are Div 1 and Ivy's interested money does play a factor. How do you negotiate this?

Thats a great question... Ive sent a few kids thru college ( not Ivy) and received zero financial aid.. If you own a home on LI and make high 5 figure salary or higher .. dont expect any money from any college or FASFA.
You'd be better off getting divorced and have the one parent with the lower income have custody and have the financials based on this..

Truth. I also have sent several D1 athletes through. All had a combination of athletic and merit awards. One had much more merit money, one was split near 50/50, and one started out with much more merit but ended up with much more athletic money. So for my two cents, money spent on a tutor and teaching study skills is worth more than private training.

So if Ivy's are in the mix of D1's you have to do your math ahead of time with the financial aid package to see what if any you would get. Ivy's offer the opportunity for a great student to get into an Ivy through LAX when they may not have gotten in? The crazy race if the dates haven't been moved yet would be Sept 1st and the start of communication. How soon are roosters completed by the D 1's? How much real time does a student athlete have to really give a verbal? How soon/late in the talks are scholarships talked about? How many official college visits are allowed? What questions should be asked of the Coaches Schools? What should we be asking but aren't?

a verbal is just that and can change anytime you want to right up to signing your letter of intent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another factor to think about is the D1 stars usually are majoring in advanced liberal arts women studies or communications because they can't handle the academics. Look on the Ivy rosters even and you will see girls who wasted 4 years playing lacrosse. No one besides lax crazy parents even care about college lax . Let them find the right fit of academics with lacrosse being a student athlete not athlete student.

Some of you really need to get a grip.

Just about all of the young women that I know who have graduated from schools such as Georgetown, Duke, Penn, Virginia, Northwestern, Penn State, Boston College etc... are doing very well.

Find the best fit for your daughter and stop trying to belittle the student athletes that are offered an opportunity to compete at the highest level and attend a great school. When I look at the list of the Top 20 Women's Lacrosse Programs it is hard to believe that the Top Players can't find a "great fit". Several excellent state schools, a couple of Ivy's, Southern, Northeast, Midwest, West Coast, Mid Atlantic etc which are all excellent schools. The top players can select the best fit and if they don't want to play at a top tier program I sure the coaches at the lower tiers will be more than willing to take them and make the finances work. Why do some of you want to knock the best players and the choices they make? Jealousy?

Below is a cut from an article in USNews titled "How Much Is an Ivy League Liberal Arts Degree Worth?" dated September 10, 2018.

"Sometimes what we see of philosophy majors coming out of these strong programs (Ivy), is that they're going into being top-tier banking analysts on Wall Street, or they're becoming intelligence analysts for the government. They're going into these upper-level positions where they can utilize those communication and critical thinking skills," Bardaro says."

There is a good fit for everyone. You sound foolish, bitter and jealous when you try to knock others.

that was true 20 years ago, but not now and btw when the layoffs start the laxers are the first to go

^^ thats a lot of questions.. heres what I know.. and I may get some of this wrong..

So if Ivy's are in the mix of D1's you have to do your math ahead of time with the financial aid package to see what if any you would get. Yes, that sounds about right
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Ivy's offer the opportunity for a great student to get into an Ivy through LAX when they may not have gotten in? Yes
The crazy race if the dates haven't been moved yet would be Sept 1st and the start of communication.Yes
How soon are roosters completed by the D 1's? this depends on the school, every coach has probably figured out a list of positional needs by graduating year.. and will recruit based on this.. probably don't need a goalie in all grades for example
How much real time does a student athlete have to really give a verbal? after 9/1 Junior year you'll have a few weeks to months depending on the school and the talent of the player..
How soon/late in the talks are scholarships talked about? That is something that will be discussed once a coach tells your daughter she is wanted on the team.
How many official college visits are allowed? I think you get one official visit.. remember an official visit is one in which travel & lodging expenses football tickets are paid for by the university.. . but you can go on your own dime as often as you want
What questions should be asked of the Coaches Schools? the list is endless... but ask about admissions, living arrangements, practice& lift schedule, academic advisers, tutors, GPA. and anything else you are curious about
What should we be asking but aren't? think of things that will be important to you and your family.. social and religious commitments, educational expectations, off campus activities

it seams daunting but it really isn't.. if Lax is what she wants to do it will work out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another factor to think about is the D1 stars usually are majoring in advanced liberal arts women studies or communications because they can't handle the academics. Look on the Ivy rosters even and you will see girls who wasted 4 years playing lacrosse. No one besides lax crazy parents even care about college lax . Let them find the right fit of academics with lacrosse being a student athlete not athlete student.

Some of you really need to get a grip.

Just about all of the young women that I know who have graduated from schools such as Georgetown, Duke, Penn, Virginia, Northwestern, Penn State, Boston College etc... are doing very well.

Find the best fit for your daughter and stop trying to belittle the student athletes that are offered an opportunity to compete at the highest level and attend a great school. When I look at the list of the Top 20 Women's Lacrosse Programs it is hard to believe that the Top Players can't find a "great fit". Several excellent state schools, a couple of Ivy's, Southern, Northeast, Midwest, West Coast, Mid Atlantic etc which are all excellent schools. The top players can select the best fit and if they don't want to play at a top tier program I sure the coaches at the lower tiers will be more than willing to take them and make the finances work. Why do some of you want to knock the best players and the choices they make? Jealousy?

Below is a cut from an article in USNews titled "How Much Is an Ivy League Liberal Arts Degree Worth?" dated September 10, 2018.

"Sometimes what we see of philosophy majors coming out of these strong programs (Ivy), is that they're going into being top-tier banking analysts on Wall Street, or they're becoming intelligence analysts for the government. They're going into these upper-level positions where they can utilize those communication and critical thinking skills," Bardaro says."

There is a good fit for everyone. You sound foolish, bitter and jealous when you try to knock others.

that was true 20 years ago, but not now and btw when the layoffs start the laxers are the first to go

another jealous hater....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ivies are ideal for the very rich and for the very poor, not so ideal for everyone in between, which is where most of us would fall. Been down this road several times and would say some of the early commits seemed like the right choice for many of those who did decide early. But... also saw “the race” every year, that some kids and parents were in to try to commit before everyone else, like it actually had some kind of bearing where their kid stood in the pecking order of player status. I have literally seen kids go visit the first college that showed interest , get an offer and verbally accept. And not the “dream school” that was the plan from years prior, merely trying to be one of the early ones to commit. Here is how I have seen it play out several times... a few schools reach out and make offers, then a few more, and both your eyes and your kids eyes will be opened, every so often by visisting as many schools as possible. I’ve gone from my kid can’t imaging going to any other school after visiting and meeting with coaches with an offer, only to watch them drop that school to second, third on the list after meeting with the next set of coaches at the next school, and then the next. The best advice anyone will ever give you is to go do your due diligence and visit as many schools as possible and meet with as many coaches as possible, it is not a race. When the coach has you targeted they will allow you the time for this process. Luckily with the new common start date for communication, hopefully you will see the race to be the first to commit, out the window (although it is entertaining to watch). What will be interesting is that in the past some programs were notorious for reaching out early, others were firm not to do this and the offers, or would be offers would stretch out over a year or two, but many of the early bidders wanted an answer long before other programs would even consider putting an offer in on such young kids. I don’t think any player ever got the full realm of possibilities layed out for them just because many schools philosophy of recruiting timelines were so different. Now these kids (the very top ones anyway) will basically be able to entertain a mountain of offers all coming in at the same time on opening bell. Good luck and be patient.

a lot of misinformation.

Or pretty much accurate on nearly every point!

Something else to consider... - better yet here is the real truth that should be told...
The college lacrosse coaches will not let the contact date be moved up because these coaches are now making too much money from their camps.
Coaches want recruiting pushed back because coaches make huge money from the extra two years of camps from the Sophomore and Junior players who now go.
Coaches did not push recruiting back because it "was in the best interest of the players" they pushed it back because "it was in the best interest of coaches' pocketbooks". Follow the money!
Coaches want you to believe it is an amazing coincidence that the extra two months of July and August that the coaches claim "are needed so the players can mature" just happen to be the exact two months when coaches run their camps. What an amazing coincidence!
Players do not magically mature in July & August. It is because July and August are when coaches run their money making camps.
Sorry players, the NCAA, just like US Lacrosse, will put the money before the players.
By the way...
-Proposal 2018-93 is for June 15th contact
-Proposal 2018-93-2 is for Sept 1st contact
Please email:
bjames@miami.edu
athdir@pobox.upenn.edu
and tell them to vote June 15th not Sept 1st

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Something else to consider... - better yet here is the real truth that should be told...
The college lacrosse coaches will not let the contact date be moved up because these coaches are now making too much money from their camps.
Coaches want recruiting pushed back because coaches make huge money from the extra two years of camps from the Sophomore and Junior players who now go.
Coaches did not push recruiting back because it "was in the best interest of the players" they pushed it back because "it was in the best interest of coaches' pocketbooks". Follow the money!
Coaches want you to believe it is an amazing coincidence that the extra two months of July and August that the coaches claim "are needed so the players can mature" just happen to be the exact two months when coaches run their camps. What an amazing coincidence!
Players do not magically mature in July & August. It is because July and August are when coaches run their money making camps.
Sorry players, the NCAA, just like US Lacrosse, will put the money before the players.
By the way...
-Proposal 2018-93 is for June 15th contact
-Proposal 2018-93-2 is for Sept 1st contact
Please email:
bjames@miami.edu
athdir@pobox.upenn.edu
and tell them to vote June 15th not Sept 1st

Exactly.

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

Still easier for coaches to get it right in 11th grade as opposed to 8th. The best girls on my daughters 6th grade team is now about #7. The studs are studs but a lot of kids move up and down in the Jr HS years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

No they weren't. They aren't allowed to evaluate kids at that time of year. That's how that tournament even got started at Spooky Nook. UA 150 was at Spooky Nook that weekend previously. Then the NCAA changed the recruiting calendar to prohibit evaluations in the winter. Chris Robinson already had booked Spooky Nook that weekend so he started the National Indoor Championships. But there are no college coaches there. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

Still easier for coaches to get it right in 11th grade as opposed to 8th. The best girls on my daughters 6th grade team is now about #7. The studs are studs but a lot of kids move up and down in the Jr HS years

No doubt. My daughter is a 2021 and the top players on her club team now are not the same as they were in 8th grade. There's been a huge change as some girls have worked hard and developed and some haven't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

No they weren't. They aren't allowed to evaluate kids at that time of year. That's how that tournament even got started at Spooky Nook. UA 150 was at Spooky Nook that weekend previously. Then the NCAA changed the recruiting calendar to prohibit evaluations in the winter. Chris Robinson already had booked Spooky Nook that weekend so he started the National Indoor Championships. But there are no college coaches there. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Umm.....the UPenn coach was at the semifinal with clipboard taking notes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

No they weren't. They aren't allowed to evaluate kids at that time of year. That's how that tournament even got started at Spooky Nook. UA 150 was at Spooky Nook that weekend previously. Then the NCAA changed the recruiting calendar to prohibit evaluations in the winter. Chris Robinson already had booked Spooky Nook that weekend so he started the National Indoor Championships. But there are no college coaches there. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Umm.....the UPenn coach was at the semifinal with clipboard taking notes.

Umm....then the UPenn coach was openly violating NCAA rules

What teams will be will be good for this season. Any teams that might do better then last year or teams that are usually good who might take a dip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

No they weren't. They aren't allowed to evaluate kids at that time of year. That's how that tournament even got started at Spooky Nook. UA 150 was at Spooky Nook that weekend previously. Then the NCAA changed the recruiting calendar to prohibit evaluations in the winter. Chris Robinson already had booked Spooky Nook that weekend so he started the National Indoor Championships. But there are no college coaches there. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Umm.....the UPenn coach was at the semifinal with clipboard taking notes.

Umm....then the UPenn coach was openly violating NCAA rules

there were multiple coaches at the spooky nook indoor championships and they had each teams rosters .

I showed up to pick my daughter at Varsity practice yesterday. The team has only 6 SR's and JR's due to summer club coach who is also the varsity coach and has just destroyed girls moral by not working all the girls into the playing rotation in years past. So here is a parent of a 9th grader who was called up screaming go to goal every time his little Shannon touches the ball. Tough to watch and tough to share a sideline with people that don't realize its a team game, INCLUDING THE COACHES!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

Still easier for coaches to get it right in 11th grade as opposed to 8th. The best girls on my daughters 6th grade team is now about #7. The studs are studs but a lot of kids move up and down in the Jr HS years

Coaches are still watching 9th and 10th graders. Coaches are letting Club Directors know who they like. The coaches are not waiting until the girls are in the 11th grade (that would mean summer before 12th grade... very little if any recruiting at HS games).

The Top Programs will make their offers in September to the top prospects. After the top players commit coaches go down their list and move on to the next tier players. The process continues until spots are filled. There are always exceptions but for the most part the majority of evaluating is done before the players play their 11th grade season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

doubt that highly but keep dreaming

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

doubt that highly but keep dreaming

Why would you "doubt that highly"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

doubt that highly but keep dreaming

Why would you "doubt that highly"?

Because they're upset that lil Sally is not recruited yet and is mad that the coaches are now looking for the next best thing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

doubt that highly but keep dreaming

Why would you "doubt that highly"?

Because it's a direct violation of NCAA rules to be evaluating in January. Are you not familiar with the recruiting calendar? Again, this is why UA150 and Nike 120 moved from winter to summer. Coaches aren't allowed to watch anymore. Coaches weren't on the sidelines taking notes at Spooky Nook.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

doubt that highly but keep dreaming

Why would you "doubt that highly"?

Because it's a direct violation of NCAA rules to be evaluating in January. Are you not familiar with the recruiting calendar? Again, this is why UA150 and Nike 120 moved from winter to summer. Coaches aren't allowed to watch anymore. Coaches weren't on the sidelines taking notes at Spooky Nook.

I guess the people I saw with clipboards and college logos on there clothes were just pretending to be coaches. Also a coincidence that they strongly resembled the coaches from the coaches from the schools.

Check out nypost dot com. I'm sure this happens in lax as well.

TV actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are among dozens of people charged with paying bribes to get their kids into top universities in a widespread college admissions scam, according to reports Tuesday.

Loughlin, meanwhile, and her husband “agreed to pay bribes totaling $500,000 in exchange for having their two daughters designated as recruits to the USC crew team — despite the fact that they did not participate in crew — thereby facilitating their admission to USC,” court documents said.

Also charged is former Yale University women’s soccer coach Rudolph “Rudy” Meredith, who is accused of accepting payments from parents of college applicants.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club teams keep kids on hook now through at least 11th grade. Collage coaches pick up older kids at camps which leads to more CASH and better looks at more mature and polished players

What coaches? The top coaches are still out there watching the 9th and 10th graders. They identify the talent and make their lists. They watch the top club teams play and they identify the best players.

They were on the sidelines watching my 8th grader at the Indoor Lax Championship this past winter taking notes.

doubt that highly but keep dreaming

Why would you "doubt that highly"?

Because it's a direct violation of NCAA rules to be evaluating in January. Are you not familiar with the recruiting calendar? Again, this is why UA150 and Nike 120 moved from winter to summer. Coaches aren't allowed to watch anymore. Coaches weren't on the sidelines taking notes at Spooky Nook.

i think maybe its you who is unfamiliar with the calendar.
The current NCAA Division I Women’s Lacrosse recruiting calendar runs August 1st, 2018 through July 31st, 2019.

08-01-18 thru 08-14-18 Dead Period
08-15-18 thru 08-31-18 Quiet Period
09-01-18 thru 11-30-18 Contact Period *with the following exceptions (1-3)
(1) 11-12-18 thru 11-15-18 (1) *Dead Period
(2) Nov. 2-4, 9-11, 16-18 (2) *Evaluation Period
(3) 11-21-18 thru 11-23-18 (3) *Dead Period
12-01-18 thru 12-30-18 Contact Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) 12-24-18 thru 12-26-18 (1) *Dead Period
12-31-18 thru 01-02-19 Dead Period
01-03-19 thru 05-23-19 Contact Period
05-24-19 thru 05-26-19 Dead Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) Coaches can conduct evaluations during the NCAA Division 1 Championship. It is limited to one event for the coach, and the event has to take place within a 100-mile radius.
05-27-19 thru 06-06-19 Contact Period
06-07-19 thru 07-31-19 Evaluation Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) 07-03-19 thru 07-05-19 (1) *Dead Period

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it's a direct violation of NCAA rules to be evaluating in January. Are you not familiar with the recruiting calendar? Again, this is why UA150 and Nike 120 moved from winter to summer. Coaches aren't allowed to watch anymore. Coaches weren't on the sidelines taking notes at Spooky Nook.

i think maybe its you who is unfamiliar with the calendar.
The current NCAA Division I Women’s Lacrosse recruiting calendar runs August 1st, 2018 through July 31st, 2019.

08-01-18 thru 08-14-18 Dead Period
08-15-18 thru 08-31-18 Quiet Period
09-01-18 thru 11-30-18 Contact Period *with the following exceptions (1-3)
(1) 11-12-18 thru 11-15-18 (1) *Dead Period
(2) Nov. 2-4, 9-11, 16-18 (2) *Evaluation Period
(3) 11-21-18 thru 11-23-18 (3) *Dead Period
12-01-18 thru 12-30-18 Contact Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) 12-24-18 thru 12-26-18 (1) *Dead Period
12-31-18 thru 01-02-19 Dead Period
01-03-19 thru 05-23-19 Contact Period
05-24-19 thru 05-26-19 Dead Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) Coaches can conduct evaluations during the NCAA Division 1 Championship. It is limited to one event for the coach, and the event has to take place within a 100-mile radius.
05-27-19 thru 06-06-19 Contact Period
06-07-19 thru 07-31-19 Evaluation Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) 07-03-19 thru 07-05-19 (1) *Dead Period

Thanks for making my point. Spooky Nook is during a Contact Period. No evaluations are allowed during a contact period unless it is a regularly scheduled high school game or is being held at the school of the athlete they are evaluating. So I guess you are familiar with the recruiting calendar. You just don't know the difference between a contact period and an evaluation period.

Again, this is the exact reason UA150 and Nike 120 moved to summer. No college coaches were allowed to attend once they changed the calendar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it's a direct violation of NCAA rules to be evaluating in January. Are you not familiar with the recruiting calendar? Again, this is why UA150 and Nike 120 moved from winter to summer. Coaches aren't allowed to watch anymore. Coaches weren't on the sidelines taking notes at Spooky Nook.

i think maybe its you who is unfamiliar with the calendar.
The current NCAA Division I Women’s Lacrosse recruiting calendar runs August 1st, 2018 through July 31st, 2019.

08-01-18 thru 08-14-18 Dead Period
08-15-18 thru 08-31-18 Quiet Period
09-01-18 thru 11-30-18 Contact Period *with the following exceptions (1-3)
(1) 11-12-18 thru 11-15-18 (1) *Dead Period
(2) Nov. 2-4, 9-11, 16-18 (2) *Evaluation Period
(3) 11-21-18 thru 11-23-18 (3) *Dead Period
12-01-18 thru 12-30-18 Contact Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) 12-24-18 thru 12-26-18 (1) *Dead Period
12-31-18 thru 01-02-19 Dead Period
01-03-19 thru 05-23-19 Contact Period
05-24-19 thru 05-26-19 Dead Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) Coaches can conduct evaluations during the NCAA Division 1 Championship. It is limited to one event for the coach, and the event has to take place within a 100-mile radius.
05-27-19 thru 06-06-19 Contact Period
06-07-19 thru 07-31-19 Evaluation Period *with the following exception (1)
(1) 07-03-19 thru 07-05-19 (1) *Dead Period

Thanks for making my point. Spooky Nook is during a Contact Period. No evaluations are allowed during a contact period unless it is a regularly scheduled high school game or is being held at the school of the athlete they are evaluating. So I guess you are familiar with the recruiting calendar. You just don't know the difference between a contact period and an evaluation period.

Again, this is the exact reason UA150 and Nike 120 moved to summer. No college coaches were allowed to attend once they changed the calendar.

Wrong again .You are completely clueless . The following is directly from the NCAA ,try reading it sometime
What is a contact period?
During a contact period a college coach may have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents, watch student-athletes compete and visit their high schools, and write or telephone student-athletes or their parents.

Recruiting Calendars
NCAA member schools have adopted rules to create an equitable recruiting environment that promotes student-athlete well-being. The rules define who may be involved in the recruiting process, when recruiting may occur and the conditions under which recruiting may be conducted. Recruiting rules seek, as much as possible, to control intrusions into the lives of student-athletes.

The NCAA defines recruiting as “any solicitation of prospective student-athletes or their parents by an institutional staff member or by a representative of the institution’s athletics interests for the purpose of securing a prospective student-athlete’s enrollment and ultimate participation in the institution’s intercollegiate athletics program.”

Frequently Asked Questions
What is a contact?
A contact occurs any time a college coach says more than hello during a face-to-face contact with a college-bound student-athlete or his or her parents off the college’s campus.

What is a contact period?
During a contact period a college coach may have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents, watch student-athletes compete and visit their high schools, and write or telephone student-athletes or their parents.

What is an evaluation period?
During an evaluation period a college coach may watch college-bound student-athletes compete, visit their high schools, and write or telephone student-athletes or their parents. However, a college coach may not have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents off the college’s campus during an evaluation period.

What is a quiet period?
During a quiet period, a college coach may only have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents on the college’s campus. A coach may not watch student-athletes compete (unless a competition occurs on the college’s campus) or visit their high schools. Coaches may write or telephone college-bound student-athletes or their parents during this time.

What is a dead period?
During a dead period a college coach may not have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents, and may not watch student-athletes compete or visit their high schools. Coaches may write and telephone student-athletes or their parents during a dead period.

You all are hilarious. Those are general terms. Look at the Womens Recruiting Calendar. It specifically says the following for Contact Periods: "Refer to Bylaw 13.1.7.3.1 regarding evaluations during a contact period". Women's lacrosse adopted specific rules around this in 2016

13.1.7.3.1 Evaluations During Contact Periods -- Women's Lacrosse. Evaluations of live athletics activities during a contact period shall be limited to: [D] (Adopted: 4/8/16 effective 9/1/16)

(a) Regularly scheduled high school, preparatory school and two-year college contests/tournaments and practices; and

(b) Regular scholastic activities involving prospective student-athletes enrolled only at the institution where the regular scholastic activities occur.

Again, if coaches were watching games at Spooky Nook it is a direct violation of NCAA rules. And again, this change was made in April of 2016 and is the exact reason the 2017 UA 150 and 2017 Nike 120 moved to summer and are there still. COLLEGE COACHES CAN"T WATCH GIRLS PLAY IN JANUARY!!!!

Coaches can watch PSA's compete, but only at regularly scheduled HS games or on a HS campus which is what I said previously. Keep arguing all you want. You're still wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check out nypost dot com. I'm sure this happens in lax as well.

TV actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are among dozens of people charged with paying bribes to get their kids into top universities in a widespread college admissions scam, according to reports Tuesday.

Loughlin, meanwhile, and her husband “agreed to pay bribes totaling $500,000 in exchange for having their two daughters designated as recruits to the USC crew team — despite the fact that they did not participate in crew — thereby facilitating their admission to USC,” court documents said.

Also charged is former Yale University women’s soccer coach Rudolph “Rudy” Meredith, who is accused of accepting payments from parents of college applicants.

It happens all the time. I remember a couple of years ago a bunch of kids from LI were caught in a cheating scandal on the SAT. Its always interesting when average students or below average students get over a 1400 on SAT.

Who cares about recruiting calendars or cheating scandals or all this back and forth 'you're wrong, no you're wrong'. it's lax season. there are games starting this week. go out and enjoy watching your daughters leave it all on the field. good luck to all. just sit back and enjoy and the chips fall where they may.

Scrimmages start today!

What is happening at St Anthony’s? Am I correct to assume they will take no action to stop the discriminatory actions of the lacrosse coach. What I am hearing is concerning and sad and needs to be looked into. SAD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about recruiting calendars or cheating scandals or all this back and forth 'you're wrong, no you're wrong'. it's lax season. there are games starting this week. go out and enjoy watching your daughters leave it all on the field. good luck to all. just sit back and enjoy and the chips fall where they may.

Thanks. Maybe you can list the acceptable topics for this forum so we don't bore you.

Originally Posted by Law4you

What is happening at St Anthony’s? Am I correct to assume they will take no action to stop the discriminatory actions of the lacrosse coach. What I am hearing is concerning and sad and needs to be looked into. SAD

Are you kidding me. St.A’s is one of the least diverse programs here on LI. There has never been a minority on that team and never will be. They will just sweep it under rug as they always do.

The "school" is a joke...

My daughter told me about it yesterday when she got home, she pretty much said majority of the team were shocked and about 2 or 3 girls were like she really thought she was going to be playing with us, It made me feel uneasy. I saw this kid play at the KK and I was impressed. I'm not sure what is happening but it is not good and does not look good for the school, coach and program.

Hmmm....Just read the article on US lacrosse on the supposed "best recruit in the country" . Made sense when I read that she is 18!!!!! Give me a break, cheating holdback. In 11th grade, but should be a college Freshman. Talk about smoke and mirrors!. The sad part is that she is an incredible player, unfortunately it is diminished due to the parents seeking unfair advantage. Guess thats the thing these days after seeing all these rich entitled folks getting busted for SAT cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm....Just read the article on US lacrosse on the supposed "best recruit in the country" . Made sense when I read that she is 18!!!!! Give me a break, cheating holdback. In 11th grade, but should be a college Freshman. Talk about smoke and mirrors!. The sad part is that she is an incredible player, unfortunately it is diminished due to the parents seeking unfair advantage. Guess thats the thing these days after seeing all these rich entitled folks getting busted for SAT cheating.

Wow, very bitter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm....Just read the article on US lacrosse on the supposed "best recruit in the country" . Made sense when I read that she is 18!!!!! Give me a break, cheating holdback. In 11th grade, but should be a college Freshman. Talk about smoke and mirrors!. The sad part is that she is an incredible player, unfortunately it is diminished due to the parents seeking unfair advantage. Guess thats the thing these days after seeing all these rich entitled folks getting busted for SAT cheating.

Wow, very bitter.

Nothing to be bitter about. Just observing the state of youth Lacrosse. On the other side, look at the top boys player, class act who did it without cheating! Congrats to him!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm....Just read the article on US lacrosse on the supposed "best recruit in the country" . Made sense when I read that she is 18!!!!! Give me a break, cheating holdback. In 11th grade, but should be a college Freshman. Talk about smoke and mirrors!. The sad part is that she is an incredible player, unfortunately it is diminished due to the parents seeking unfair advantage. Guess thats the thing these days after seeing all these rich entitled folks getting busted for SAT cheating.

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Her dad was saying something about when he was 18 at MD. Later in the article it says 10 years from now she will be 26.

As the other poster said, seem bitter. She is an amazing player and works very hard to be so. Stop hating.

I just read the article. The dad was 18 in the paragraph, not the daughter. She is most likely 17 like most other juniors. And yes I agree with other poster..BITTER Person you are.

Originally Posted by Law4you

What is happening at St Anthony’s? Am I correct to assume they will take no action to stop the discriminatory actions of the lacrosse coach. What I am hearing is concerning and sad and needs to be looked into. SAD

If she could play she would have been on the team. As far as "least diverse" program on LI I guess SA should aspire to be more like Northport, Garden City, Manhasset, West Islip, Cold Spring Harbor, Mt. Sinai, etc. those programs are a mosaic of America with infinite diversity - you're clueless about SA

Looks like the only solution is to contact the dad from Westhampton and if he thinks she would help the team win he will get her an address in the school district for the lax season

How did CSH vs. Northport scrimmage go?

IL Preseason top 25

1.McDonogh School (Md.)
2.Manhasset (N.Y.)
3.Eastport South Manor (N.Y.)
4.Mt. Sinai (N.Y.)
5.Notre Dame Prep (Md.)
6.American Heritage (Fla.)
7.Bishop Ireton (D.C.)
8.Sts. Stephen's & Agnes (Va.)
9.Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10.Georgetown Visitation (D.C.)
11.Garden City (N.Y.)
12.Moorestown (N.J.)
13.Glenelg (Md.)
14.Christian Brothers Academy (N.Y.)
15.Darien (Conn.)
16.Ridgewood (N.J)
17.St. Paul's SG (Md.)
18.Northport (N.Y)
19.Holton-Arms School (Md.)
20.Summit (N.J)
21.Agnes Irwin (Pa.)
22.Episcopal Academy (Pa.)
23.New Canaan (Conn.)
24.Novato (Calif.)
25.Glenelg Country School (Md.)

Anyone concerned with how this College Admission Scandal impacts future recruiting? I've heard said here on BOTC that coaches have a one/few automatic admission spots each year for their recruits who "maybe" didn't get quite the right SAT, ACT or GPA etc.. I can see that practice getting shut down after this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just read the article. The dad was 18 in the paragraph, not the daughter. She is most likely 17 like most other juniors. And yes I agree with other poster..BITTER Person you are.

Most likely only held back a year...If she was on age, article would have told you point blank how old she was, not like in ten years she'll be 26...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmm....Just read the article on US lacrosse on the supposed "best recruit in the country" . Made sense when I read that she is 18!!!!! Give me a break, cheating holdback. In 11th grade, but should be a college Freshman. Talk about smoke and mirrors!. The sad part is that she is an incredible player, unfortunately it is diminished due to the parents seeking unfair advantage. Guess thats the thing these days after seeing all these rich entitled folks getting busted for SAT cheating.

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Her dad was saying something about when he was 18 at MD. Later in the article it says 10 years from now she will be 26.

As the other poster said, seem bitter. She is an amazing player and works very hard to be so. Stop hating.

Wouldn't be the only top 2020 that should be a 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone concerned with how this College Admission Scandal impacts future recruiting? I've heard said here on BOTC that coaches have a one/few automatic admission spots each year for their recruits who "maybe" didn't get quite the right SAT, ACT or GPA etc.. I can see that practice getting shut down after this.

They'd have to "shut down" the practice across the board for all sports then. For example, I can't see football and/or basketball programs even considering that. You're talking big revenue for some of these schools. You can't pick and choose that only some sports can make academic exceptions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone concerned with how this College Admission Scandal impacts future recruiting? I've heard said here on BOTC that coaches have a one/few automatic admission spots each year for their recruits who "maybe" didn't get quite the right SAT, ACT or GPA etc.. I can see that practice getting shut down after this.

They'd have to "shut down" the practice across the board for all sports then. For example, I can't see football and/or basketball programs even considering that. You're talking big revenue for some of these schools. You can't pick and choose that only some sports can make academic exceptions.

Why can't they? football and basketball have different recruiting rules...money talks...only people that care about girls lax is us.

On the sports that no one cares and lose money, its very easy to say if you don't have the grades you don't get in to the school. Soccer Lacrosse Volleyball Softball Crew etc etc

But how in the world could they ever enforce that for Football and Mens Basketball? Coming into March Madness time of year and it shocks me every year that kids going to Duke, UNC and other GREAT schools can barely speak during interviews. Same in college football. Its a real problem for these schools that walk in their recruits every year bypassing the rigorous admission process

So Northports “secret weapon” is out for the season. And so goes the plan to win Counties. Wide open!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Northports “secret weapon” is out for the season. And so goes the plan to win Counties. Wide open!

It's pretty S#*^$ of you to even make a comment about ANYONE's ability to play for the season.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the sports that no one cares and lose money, its very easy to say if you don't have the grades you don't get in to the school. Soccer Lacrosse Volleyball Softball Crew etc etc

But how in the world could they ever enforce that for Football and Mens Basketball? Coming into March Madness time of year and it shocks me every year that kids going to Duke, UNC and other GREAT schools can barely speak during interviews. Same in college football. Its a real problem for these schools that walk in their recruits every year bypassing the rigorous admission process

I've had several of my children play D1 sports in 3 different schools in 3 different states. They girls told me that in each of their schools the boys were held to different standards, from academics to behavior outside of their sports. One dated a basketball player who literally did not have to attend class! The boys would party it up and the girls had "dry season." My girls' teams got drug tested, my son's team *never* did. Ever. It's a bunch of BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the sports that no one cares and lose money, its very easy to say if you don't have the grades you don't get in to the school. Soccer Lacrosse Volleyball Softball Crew etc etc

But how in the world could they ever enforce that for Football and Mens Basketball? Coming into March Madness time of year and it shocks me every year that kids going to Duke, UNC and other GREAT schools can barely speak during interviews. Same in college football. Its a real problem for these schools that walk in their recruits every year bypassing the rigorous admission process

I've had several of my children play D1 sports in 3 different schools in 3 different states. They girls told me that in each of their schools the boys were held to different standards, from academics to behavior outside of their sports. One dated a basketball player who literally did not have to attend class! The boys would party it up and the girls had "dry season." My girls' teams got drug tested, my son's team *never* did. Ever. It's a bunch of BS.

That's because football and basketball subsidize everything else - if it were not for title 9 most of the girls sports wouldn't even exist

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Northports “secret weapon” is out for the season. And so goes the plan to win Counties. Wide open!

It's pretty S#*^$ of you to even make a comment about ANYONE's ability to play for the season.....

Why? Was giving the girl a complement, without her they will be nothing special

It is interesting that the top 2020 players are both hold backs . While both players are very good I do not believe they would have been held in the same regard if they player on age ,again very good . Honestly congrats to them it’s clearly a case where gaming the system paid off .Would also have been interesting to have seen the top player if she had played in an area where lacrosse is more competitive , if I remember correctly she played on a YJ team for a couple of years and was a starter type player but not a top 5 in that team ,yes I get there were like 3 years old and kids get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the sports that no one cares and lose money, its very easy to say if you don't have the grades you don't get in to the school. Soccer Lacrosse Volleyball Softball Crew etc etc

But how in the world could they ever enforce that for Football and Mens Basketball? Coming into March Madness time of year and it shocks me every year that kids going to Duke, UNC and other GREAT schools can barely speak during interviews. Same in college football. Its a real problem for these schools that walk in their recruits every year bypassing the rigorous admission process

I've had several of my children play D1 sports in 3 different schools in 3 different states. They girls told me that in each of their schools the boys were held to different standards, from academics to behavior outside of their sports. One dated a basketball player who literally did not have to attend class! The boys would party it up and the girls had "dry season." My girls' teams got drug tested, my son's team *never* did. Ever. It's a bunch of BS.

I call BS.

Congratulations to all of the players who were named to the Preseason "All-ILWomens Team". Well deserved honor, good luck to all this season.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/preseason-all-ilwomen-team/53989

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Northports “secret weapon” is out for the season. And so goes the plan to win Counties. Wide open!

Low life coward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the sports that no one cares and lose money, its very easy to say if you don't have the grades you don't get in to the school. Soccer Lacrosse Volleyball Softball Crew etc etc

But how in the world could they ever enforce that for Football and Mens Basketball? Coming into March Madness time of year and it shocks me every year that kids going to Duke, UNC and other GREAT schools can barely speak during interviews. Same in college football. Its a real problem for these schools that walk in their recruits every year bypassing the rigorous admission process

I've had several of my children play D1 sports in 3 different schools in 3 different states. They girls told me that in each of their schools the boys were held to different standards, from academics to behavior outside of their sports. One dated a basketball player who literally did not have to attend class! The boys would party it up and the girls had "dry season." My girls' teams got drug tested, my son's team *never* did. Ever. It's a bunch of BS.

That's because football and basketball subsidize everything else - if it were not for title 9 most of the girls sports wouldn't even exist

So that justifies it?

Secret plan foiled

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the sports that no one cares and lose money, its very easy to say if you don't have the grades you don't get in to the school. Soccer Lacrosse Volleyball Softball Crew etc etc

But how in the world could they ever enforce that for Football and Mens Basketball? Coming into March Madness time of year and it shocks me every year that kids going to Duke, UNC and other GREAT schools can barely speak during interviews. Same in college football. Its a real problem for these schools that walk in their recruits every year bypassing the rigorous admission process

I've had several of my children play D1 sports in 3 different schools in 3 different states. They girls told me that in each of their schools the boys were held to different standards, from academics to behavior outside of their sports. One dated a basketball player who literally did not have to attend class! The boys would party it up and the girls had "dry season." My girls' teams got drug tested, my son's team *never* did. Ever. It's a bunch of BS.

That's because football and basketball subsidize everything else - if it were not for title 9 most of the girls sports wouldn't even exist

So that justifies it?

It's called reality and that 's how the real world works, which hopefully your kids will be prepared for unless you plan on holding their hand forever - for 99.9% of female athletes any special treatment they might be getting comes to an abrupt end after college

Does anyone know how the girls get picked for the top 100 players to watch in Newsday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how the girls get picked for the top 100 players to watch in Newsday?

Does it matter?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how the girls get picked for the top 100 players to watch in Newsday?

High School Coach submits the players they want on the list. it is a sort of "everybody gets a trophy" list, Just about all schools will have a player listed. Kind of like all-county. There will be very good players from strong programs like Garden City and Manhasset not listed who are stronger than 50 - 60 of the players listed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how the girls get picked for the top 100 players to watch in Newsday?

High School Coach submits the players they want on the list. it is a sort of "everybody gets a trophy" list, Just about all schools will have a player listed. Kind of like all-county. There will be very good players from strong programs like Garden City and Manhasset not listed who are stronger than 50 - 60 of the players listed.

Enough with the how great GC ,Manhasset are . Its just not the case anymore .They are still very good but there are many programs who have caught up over the last 5 years.If either were in C class they would not get off the island .

Originally Posted by Law4you

What is happening at St Anthony’s? Am I correct to assume they will take no action to stop the discriminatory actions of the lacrosse coach. What I am hearing is concerning and sad and needs to be looked into. SAD

What ever happened did they take this girl back on the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how the girls get picked for the top 100 players to watch in Newsday?

High School Coach submits the players they want on the list. it is a sort of "everybody gets a trophy" list, Just about all schools will have a player listed. Kind of like all-county. There will be very good players from strong programs like Garden City and Manhasset not listed who are stronger than 50 - 60 of the players listed.

Enough with the how great GC ,Manhasset are . Its just not the case anymore .They are still very good but there are many programs who have caught up over the last 5 years.If either were in C class they would not get off the island .

Please, get hold of yourself and your inferiority complex. There are not many programs who have caught up to them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Law4you

What is happening at St Anthony’s? Am I correct to assume they will take no action to stop the discriminatory actions of the lacrosse coach. What I am hearing is concerning and sad and needs to be looked into. SAD

What ever happened did they take this girl back on the team?

No

Folks need to enter their schedules on Inside Lacrosse. This has taken over for Lax Power and they are using similar computer rating systems. They will be using this as input for their weekly rankings as well. Anyone can sign up to enter schedule and enter scores. Some schools like ESM are already in there, but many are not.

Hey Carol, how'd your scrimmage vs. CSH go last week??? Northport, total sham...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Folks need to enter their schedules on Inside Lacrosse. This has taken over for Lax Power and they are using similar computer rating systems. They will be using this as input for their weekly rankings as well. Anyone can sign up to enter schedule and enter scores. Some schools like ESM are already in there, but many are not.

Go figure...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Carol, how'd your scrimmage vs. CSH go last week??? Northport, total sham...

Tell us what happend?

what couldn't the Northport team do?

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Hey Carol, how'd your scrimmage vs. CSH go last week??? Northport, total sham...

Tell us what happend?

what couldn't the Northport team do?
[/quote

Where should we start? Score goals? Best player out for season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

It only took 1 game for the WHB stalker.

West Babylon is strong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

It only took 1 game for the WHB stalker.

It only took one game for the WHB superstar and coaches to prove how disgusting they can be. Sorry but putting up 10 points in a 17-1 high school lacrosse game just seems desperate for recognition.Yes we get she was the best player on the field and much better than even her teammates but just because you can do something does not mean you should.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

It only took 1 game for the WHB stalker.

It only took one game for the WHB superstar and coaches to prove how disgusting they can be. Sorry but putting up 10 points in a 17-1 high school lacrosse game just seems desperate for recognition.Yes we get she was the best player on the field and much better than even her teammates but just because you can do something does not mean you should.

Karma

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

It only took 1 game for the WHB stalker.

It only took one game for the WHB superstar and coaches to prove how disgusting they can be. Sorry but putting up 10 points in a 17-1 high school lacrosse game just seems desperate for recognition.Yes we get she was the best player on the field and much better than even her teammates but just because you can do something does not mean you should.

If 8 of those 10 points were ASSISTS I would have no issues

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

It only took 1 game for the WHB stalker.

It only took one game for the WHB superstar and coaches to prove how disgusting they can be. Sorry but putting up 10 points in a 17-1 high school lacrosse game just seems desperate for recognition.Yes we get she was the best player on the field and much better than even her teammates but just because you can do something does not mean you should.

When you come on here every time a kid plays and complains, it exposes YOU dumb a**. No kid should have a filthy troll watching and waiting to pounce. Tired of seeing WH on here every darn season. I want to hate her too but your obsession for this kid makes me hope she lights up the score sheet and gets you checked into an asylum. This is what is wrong with the sport!

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .[/quote]

It only took 1 game for the WHB stalker. [/quote]

It only took one game for the WHB superstar and coaches to prove how disgusting they can be. Sorry but putting up 10 points in a 17-1 high school lacrosse game just seems desperate for recognition.Yes we get she was the best player on the field and much better than even her teammates but just because you can do something does not mean you should.[/quote]

No dog in the fight, but it looks like 6 goal and 4 ASSISTS. That's a good game, not running up the score. If she scored 10 goals, I would call it showboating or poor sportsmanship. As a coach, you need to take opportunities to run your offense with your starters so that when you play an elite/strong team your offense will know what they're supposed to do. I'm sure I'm in the minority, because it seems like some people have a problem with the player, but I see nothing wrong with her numbers.

I just looked.. she had 6G and 4A..
I dont have a problem with it, either the player or the coach..... traditionally the unwritten rule was you dont score more than 19 goals on an over-matched opponent.. they didnt

With any of the kids people single out on here its based on either jealousy from a HS teammate/club teammate or from a parent on the receiving end of the beating.
If its stat padding only the coach can control that.
Points only matter when you play top teams. When a player puts up numbers on teams like: Mt. Sinai, Bayport-Blue Pt, Eastport/SManor, West Babylon, Matt/Shld then its talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With any of the kids people single out on here its based on either jealousy from a HS teammate/club teammate or from a parent on the receiving end of the beating.
If its stat padding only the coach can control that.
Points only matter when you play top teams. When a player puts up numbers on teams like: Mt. Sinai, Bayport-Blue Pt, Eastport/SManor, West Babylon, Matt/Shld then its talent.

While I agree with the above, putting up 10 points against an over matched team is poor sportsmanship. Its not the only sport it happens in but I blame the coach more than the player. The working on the offense excuse in such a completely lopsided game, that never should have been set up , is a joke.Its the reason WHB will never win a county championship, creates bad chemistry, its bad coaching, their offense will be shut down by good teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With any of the kids people single out on here its based on either jealousy from a HS teammate/club teammate or from a parent on the receiving end of the beating.
If its stat padding only the coach can control that.
Points only matter when you play top teams. When a player puts up numbers on teams like: Mt. Sinai, Bayport-Blue Pt, Eastport/SManor, West Babylon, Matt/Shld then its talent.

While I agree with the above, putting up 10 points against an over matched team is poor sportsmanship. Its not the only sport it happens in but I blame the coach more than the player. The working on the offense excuse in such a completely lopsided game, that never should have been set up , is a joke.Its the reason WHB will never win a county championship, creates bad chemistry, its bad coaching, their offense will be shut down by good teams.

WHB next big playoff win will be their first.

You can add to the above that a Coach when playing an over-matched opponent probably wants to get up by 10 so the clock runs and they can get back on the bus and go home..
without any power rankings or super conferences the good teams have to play some bad teams.. blow outs and multiple point games will follow

Issue should be with the coach and not the player. There are plenty of ways to get your work in without demoralizing an opponent. use clock, don't double , work man down, shoot at the goalie or over the cage, longer clears, play your subs, play off hand , should I go on. So stop the excuses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

It only took 1 game for the WHB stalker. [/quote]

It only took one game for the WHB superstar and coaches to prove how disgusting they can be. Sorry but putting up 10 points in a 17-1 high school lacrosse game just seems desperate for recognition.Yes we get she was the best player on the field and much better than even her teammates but just because you can do something does not mean you should.[/quote]

No dog in the fight, but it looks like 6 goal and 4 ASSISTS. That's a good game, not running up the score. If she scored 10 goals, I would call it showboating or poor sportsmanship. As a coach, you need to take opportunities to run your offense with your starters so that when you play an elite/strong team your offense will know what they're supposed to do. I'm sure I'm in the minority, because it seems like some people have a problem with the player, but I see nothing wrong with her numbers.
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Guess I'm in the minority with you. I was going to write the same thing, but scrolled through and found your comment first.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

Go on inside lacrosse website and look at the scores of the games the kid in florida is playing - 17-3, 17-8, 21-0, 16-3, 21-0, 22-3, 20-10 and in the only competitive game they played they lost 18-9 - this would be what I think you're referring to as stat padding - American Heritage should be ashamed of themselves as well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

So you sound clueless and have no credibility when you say things but no nothing of what you speak. The FL club team that this hard working kid plays for is no “B” team. Just as the YJ A team they beat along with many other top teams. The FL team is one of the top 2020 teams in the nation with many impressive commitments. Now stop the diarrhea running from your mouth.

"So you sound clueless and have no credibility when you say things but no nothing of what you speak. The FL club team that this hard working kid plays for is no “B” team. Just as the YJ A team they beat along with many other top teams. The FL team is one of the top 2020 teams in the nation with many impressive commitments. Now stop the diarrhea running from your mouth."

Is this a joke? Know not no and they are posting about her high school accolades not her travel. Her travel team is essentially a "B" level team with mixed age players who got crushed by the Legacy team the last time they played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Issue should be with the coach and not the player. There are plenty of ways to get your work in without demoralizing an opponent. use clock, don't double , work man down, shoot at the goalie or over the cage, longer clears, play your subs, play off hand , should I go on. So stop the excuses

couldn't agree more. And the kids who stat pad do it because their stunad parents have been telling them to go to go since they could hold a stick.

Selfish game, bad parents, bad coaching plus NEWSDAY posting scoring leaders makes a bad mix

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

Go on inside lacrosse website and look at the scores of the games the kid in florida is playing - 17-3, 17-8, 21-0, 16-3, 21-0, 22-3, 20-10 and in the only competitive game they played they lost 18-9 - this would be what I think you're referring to as stat padding - American Heritage should be ashamed of themselves as well

No comments on this? I guess it's fine to over hype a kid in Florida. What a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Issue should be with the coach and not the player. There are plenty of ways to get your work in without demoralizing an opponent. use clock, don't double , work man down, shoot at the goalie or over the cage, longer clears, play your subs, play off hand , should I go on. So stop the excuses

Those would be fine if they were playing PAL, but that won't help them when the games are close. This is varsity and blowouts happen. You never want to practice inefficient methods. That's ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Issue should be with the coach and not the player. There are plenty of ways to get your work in without demoralizing an opponent. use clock, don't double , work man down, shoot at the goalie or over the cage, longer clears, play your subs, play off hand , should I go on. So stop the excuses

Those would be fine if they were playing PAL, but that won't help them when the games are close. This is varsity and blowouts happen. You never want to practice inefficient methods. That's ridiculous.

Thats just idiotic. How about pretend you are in a tie game and there is 3 minutes left and you are holding the ball to get the last shot off if that makes you happy or just play your subs as they will not be getting into the close games. There is no excuse in blowout games to have kids put up 10 plus points other than the player and her parents being egomaniacs and the coach being a flaccid lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season just started and we already have candidates for ball hog of the month and coach who has hideous sportsmanship for allowing it to happen. WHB superstar puts up 10 points in a 17-1 blowout. Cant wait for WB to shut that team out again. The kid wants to be considered as good as the florida player but never will for one simple reason ; she is just not that good.

There's two dozen kids, if not more, as good as the florida player, lighting it up in the florida hs circuit and playing in "B" bracket club ball will be over soon

Maybe but the WHB kid aint one of them .

Go on inside lacrosse website and look at the scores of the games the kid in florida is playing - 17-3, 17-8, 21-0, 16-3, 21-0, 22-3, 20-10 and in the only competitive game they played they lost 18-9 - this would be what I think you're referring to as stat padding - American Heritage should be ashamed of themselves as well

No comments on this? I guess it's fine to over hype a kid in Florida. What a joke

People obviously a problem with the WHB player. No outcry from the EH girl who put up 9 points in a drubbing of Stony Brook School. I guess that ok because that girl is not in the limelight. You're all pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Issue should be with the coach and not the player. There are plenty of ways to get your work in without demoralizing an opponent. use clock, don't double , work man down, shoot at the goalie or over the cage, longer clears, play your subs, play off hand , should I go on. So stop the excuses

Those would be fine if they were playing PAL, but that won't help them when the games are close. This is varsity and blowouts happen. You never want to practice inefficient methods. That's ridiculous.

OK If you say so

What's inefficient about practicing man down, off handed, using clock, longer clears, playing good solid 12 meter defense. All of which can help in close games. Playing subs is inefficient ? Maybe until you need them. Again just another clueless individual

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Let a kid who plays defense score a goal and I guarantee she will have the biggest smile of the game but NOOOOOO need attack players to score 10 and win by 20.

If subs are scoring their first goals of the game and season and maybe some defenders at least its defensible because the studs weren't the ones doing the scoring

coaching is terrible. These coaches know they are going to win a blowout before they get off the bus

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Baller-who talks like that? 1 of 2 2019s pretending to be 2020s left on the U19 Team. Great player with all those accolades really doesnt need to beat up on very weak teams no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's inefficient about practicing man down, off handed, using clock, longer clears, playing good solid 12 meter defense. All of which can help in close games. Playing subs is inefficient ? Maybe until you need them. Again just another clueless individual

Agree!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Only reason why she's on team USA is because of politics. US Lacrosse hyped her up, now there's nowhere but down to go. Seen it happen over and over including one prominent USC Jr who is not producing the numbers expected. A shame for the kid. Others catch up and surpass great HS players. Fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Only reason why she's on team USA is because of politics. US Lacrosse hyped her up, now there's nowhere but down to go. Seen it happen over and over including one prominent USC Jr who is not producing the numbers expected. A shame for the kid. Others catch up and surpass great HS players. Fact!

You are a pathetic lost. You just can't get over the fact that these players are better than your daughter. Slither back under your rock and stop anonymously attacking young women.

“People obviously a problem with the WHB player. No outcry from the EH girl who put up 9 points in a drubbing of Stony Brook School. I guess that ok because that girl is not in the limelight. You're all pathetic.”

I agree they are both pathetic, got to watch WHB in person today , those coaches are disgusting .Do you really need to have one of your starters cram a goal in w virtually no time left in a game that is over. Now i know why the superstar just runs up her stats because her brain dead coaches are clueless.

or nothing worse than blow out loss and a stat padder tries to get a point in at the end you lost by 8 and really you shoot with less than 10 seconds in

Don't worry when they get to college that will end!
Nobody cares what they did in High School except for the girl and Mommy and Daddy!!
Much better defenders who take it very serious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't worry when they get to college that will end!
Nobody cares what they did in High School except for the girl and Mommy and Daddy!!
Much better defenders who take it very serious.

Not so sure about that , watched ND play Vandy yesterday , ND stat padder puts one in w like 20 seconds left in the game , plenty of time left on the shot clock , then they hustle back to the draw because they are up by over 10 and clock continues to run hoping to add more to their stats . By the way they kept in their starters up over 10 points , the coach is just hideous as a coach and a person .I am surprised to see so many college coaches leaving their starters in when the game is over , I assume they do it so the players can run up their stats for post season awards . I could be wrong but do not see the UNC and Maryland coaches doing that , any others that take their starters out when game obviously over .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Please stop. Plenty of players padding stats in non-competitive games on Long Island.

BTW, Are you implying that there are 50 players on Long Island that are as talented as the player from Florida? Please stop, the talent pool is not that deep. There are maybe 10 -15 players per class on LI that fall into the "elite" category. All of the nonsensical jealous posts will not change that.

Also, HS accolades, stats and recognition have nothing to do with anything. The club circuit is where the top college programs do their recruiting, that is where national recognition such as Under Armour All-America and Inside Lacrosse Rankings are earned, that is where players compete against the best competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Please stop. Plenty of players padding stats in non-competitive games on Long Island.

BTW, Are you implying that there are 50 players on Long Island that are as talented as the player from Florida? Please stop, the talent pool is not that deep. There are maybe 10 -15 players per class on LI that fall into the "elite" category. All of the nonsensical jealous posts will not change that.

Also, HS accolades, stats and recognition have nothing to do with anything. The club circuit is where the top college programs do their recruiting, that is where national recognition such as Under Armour All-America and Inside Lacrosse Rankings are earned, that is where players compete against the best competition.

I think the implication is that playing in those type games every year in HS that 50+ kids in LI and MD could put up those type of numbers very easily - it appears you're looking at the definition of stat padding

BTW the club team plays in B brackets all summer and on the few occasions when the did wander into the deep end of the pool the outcome and stats looked very different

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Please stop. Plenty of players padding stats in non-competitive games on Long Island.

BTW, Are you implying that there are 50 players on Long Island that are as talented as the player from Florida? Please stop, the talent pool is not that deep. There are maybe 10 -15 players per class on LI that fall into the "elite" category. All of the nonsensical jealous posts will not change that.

Also, HS accolades, stats and recognition have nothing to do with anything. The club circuit is where the top college programs do their recruiting, that is where national recognition such as Under Armour All-America and Inside Lacrosse Rankings are earned, that is where players compete against the best competition.

I think the implication is that playing in those type games every year in HS that 50+ kids in LI and MD could put up those type of numbers very easily - it appears you're looking at the definition of stat padding

BTW the club team plays in B brackets all summer and on the few occasions when the did wander into the deep end of the pool the outcome and stats looked very different

The HS competition on Long Island is very weak. The power conference in Nassau is pretty strong especially the top half and there are a handful of competitive teams in Suffolk probably less than 10. Most of the games are not very competitive and there are plenty of blowout games where stat padding occurs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Please stop. Plenty of players padding stats in non-competitive games on Long Island.

BTW, Are you implying that there are 50 players on Long Island that are as talented as the player from Florida? Please stop, the talent pool is not that deep. There are maybe 10 -15 players per class on LI that fall into the "elite" category. All of the nonsensical jealous posts will not change that.

Also, HS accolades, stats and recognition have nothing to do with anything. The club circuit is where the top college programs do their recruiting, that is where national recognition such as Under Armour All-America and Inside Lacrosse Rankings are earned, that is where players compete against the best competition.

I think the implication is that playing in those type games every year in HS that 50+ kids in LI and MD could put up those type of numbers very easily - it appears you're looking at the definition of stat padding

BTW the club team plays in B brackets all summer and on the few occasions when the did wander into the deep end of the pool the outcome and stats looked very different

The HS competition on Long Island is very weak. The power conference in Nassau is pretty strong especially the top half and there are a handful of competitive teams in Suffolk probably less than 10. Most of the games are not very competitive and there are plenty of blowout games where stat padding occurs.

The top 10 Suffolk teams are way better than the top 10 Nassau teams. Unfortunately they are spread out, Suffolk power conference would be ideal.

The top 10 Suffolk teams are way better than the top 10 Nassau teams. Unfortunately they are spread out, Suffolk power conference would be ideal.
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IDK about that... But I think there are only about 10 quality programs in Suffolk. That is not a knock on any of the other programs, it is just the reality of the sport. The sport has become a Money Sport in the sense that parents must be willing to spend a lot of money if they want their child to excel and play at a high level. Towns where the majority of players are playing club, going to private training, going to camps etc... are going to have a huge advantage. HS Teams that only have a few kids per class out on the lax circuit are going to struggle vs teams where just about all of the kids are involved year round. Average athletes who pay to play and train all year can go on to play division I college lacrosse.

Suffolk (Section XI) should absolutely establish a power conference. Blowout games help neither team.

Well the WHB kid has been let off the hook . The mullet dude coach from Northport and her desperate player who’s parents could not stop complaining about the transfer decided to put up 9 points in a 21-1 beating . Northport AD should be so proud of that dumpster fire of a coach .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over hyped? The kid is a baller and deserves all of the accolades she has received. 1 of 2 2020's still remaining U19 Team, Awarded best player national tournament, earliest women's recruit ever. , Recognized by most as the best 2020 and possibly the best high school player out there. Yeah, I guess over hyped. Get over it already. Jealousy is a bad look!

Please there's at least 50 kids on LI and 50 more in Maryland who would be breaking records playing HS lax in Florida. Average score in their 7 wins would be 19-4, its would be like Garden City playing Copiague every game. Well at least we know the stat padding goes on everywhere

Please stop. Plenty of players padding stats in non-competitive games on Long Island.

BTW, Are you implying that there are 50 players on Long Island that are as talented as the player from Florida? Please stop, the talent pool is not that deep. There are maybe 10 -15 players per class on LI that fall into the "elite" category. All of the nonsensical jealous posts will not change that.

Also, HS accolades, stats and recognition have nothing to do with anything. The club circuit is where the top college programs do their recruiting, that is where national recognition such as Under Armour All-America and Inside Lacrosse Rankings are earned, that is where players compete against the best competition.

I think the implication is that playing in those type games every year in HS that 50+ kids in LI and MD could put up those type of numbers very easily - it appears you're looking at the definition of stat padding

BTW the club team plays in B brackets all summer and on the few occasions when the did wander into the deep end of the pool the outcome and stats looked very different

The HS competition on Long Island is very weak. The power conference in Nassau is pretty strong especially the top half and there are a handful of competitive teams in Suffolk probably less than 10. Most of the games are not very competitive and there are plenty of blowout games where stat padding occurs.

The top 10 Suffolk teams are way better than the top 10 Nassau teams. Unfortunately they are spread out, Suffolk power conference would be ideal.

Nobody ever denied that stat padding is everywhere, but when your avg score is 20-4 for 7 games can that even be called competition? Lets say for arguments sake that LI and MD each have at least 20 teams that would run wild against the florida hs circuit that American plays, isn't it very possible that 2-3 kids on any given team would have the ability to tally close to10 points every time they played one of those teams? That's potentially 200 points in a 20 game season for those kids and they should be embarrassed to brag about it

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

On a better note nice to see Riverhead and Smithtown East do the right thing . Still do not understand why the coaches of Suffolk cave to that foul mouth , mullet wearing slob .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thanks Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

I don't know where your facts are found-it's hilarious that you make up facts. Here' some facts for you:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/delray-sun/fl-drf-sp-selectlax-0110-20180107-story.html
It's very sad to hate on another's success-good luck to your fabulous kid. I watched the same indoor thing. The game you are referring to was one where 6 yellow cards were given to one team and 0 to the other. There was nothing unsportsmanlike and the NY team playing afterward asked what in the heck happened with the refs? One yellow was for boxing out on a ground ball? The team played 3 men down almost the entire second half and played hard to the end. This kid is targeted in club and high school games with kids taking cheap shots at her and she handles it with incredible sportsmanship. It is dirty and unsportsmanlike how kids take her out-it's definitely intentional. A hero's green player took her out hard this summer and during the yellow sat there and laughed-that is unsportsmanlike. As far as being a holdback-who cares? How many kids are held back-it's only in their best interest. She has a summer birthday-big deal. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for multiple reasons. All LI and Maryland kids are not all playing on age. I have kids who weren't held back and too bad for them that I didn't but they are fine and I don't complain that I sent them to school younger. I think this kid will have a very successful college career. You can hate and disagree but time will show that hard work pays off whatever your age. Hate does nothing but make people bitter.

I think this horse has been beaten long enough. Let’s move on and talk about HS LI lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be
nothing special on LI .

Agree with all of this 100%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

I don't know where your facts are found-it's hilarious that you make up facts. Here' some facts for you:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/delray-sun/fl-drf-sp-selectlax-0110-20180107-story.html
It's very sad to hate on another's success-good luck to your fabulous kid. I watched the same indoor thing. The game you are referring to was one where 6 yellow cards were given to one team and 0 to the other. There was nothing unsportsmanlike and the NY team playing afterward asked what in the heck happened with the refs? One yellow was for boxing out on a ground ball? The team played 3 men down almost the entire second half and played hard to the end. This kid is targeted in club and high school games with kids taking cheap shots at her and she handles it with incredible sportsmanship. It is dirty and unsportsmanlike how kids take her out-it's definitely intentional. A hero's green player took her out hard this summer and during the yellow sat there and laughed-that is unsportsmanlike. As far as being a holdback-who cares? How many kids are held back-it's only in their best interest. She has a summer birthday-big deal. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for multiple reasons. All LI and Maryland kids are not all playing on age. I have kids who weren't held back and too bad for them that I didn't but they are fine and I don't complain that I sent them to school younger. I think this kid will have a very successful college career. You can hate and disagree but time will show that hard work pays off whatever your age. Hate does nothing but make people bitter.

Fall Ball? Really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

Please stop with "if she played on long island" as if the talent on the island is so vast. The player has been recognized by the top college coaches, Inside Lacrosse, Under Armour, US Lacrosse etc... as being one of the very best players in the country in the class of 2020. There are maybe 10 players, 15 max on the Island who can even be considered in the same league as her. There are not 50 or 100 players per class from long island who are considered elite by people who know what they are talking about. The number is more like 15.

Jealousy is a terrible trait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

I don't know where your facts are found-it's hilarious that you make up facts. Here' some facts for you:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/delray-sun/fl-drf-sp-selectlax-0110-20180107-story.html
It's very sad to hate on another's success-good luck to your fabulous kid. I watched the same indoor thing. The game you are referring to was one where 6 yellow cards were given to one team and 0 to the other. There was nothing unsportsmanlike and the NY team playing afterward asked what in the heck happened with the refs? One yellow was for boxing out on a ground ball? The team played 3 men down almost the entire second half and played hard to the end. This kid is targeted in club and high school games with kids taking cheap shots at her and she handles it with incredible sportsmanship. It is dirty and unsportsmanlike how kids take her out-it's definitely intentional. A hero's green player took her out hard this summer and during the yellow sat there and laughed-that is unsportsmanlike. As far as being a holdback-who cares? How many kids are held back-it's only in their best interest. She has a summer birthday-big deal. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for multiple reasons. All LI and Maryland kids are not all playing on age. I have kids who weren't held back and too bad for them that I didn't but they are fine and I don't complain that I sent them to school younger. I think this kid will have a very successful college career. You can hate and disagree but time will show that hard work pays off whatever your age. Hate does nothing but make people bitter.

This is not about the kid, who is an excellent player and nice kid , its about your response .Are you too dense to see that it comes across as when other teams get a yellow card its dirty and unsportsmanlike but when your team does its the refs and just hard play. The being held back thing is a whole other matter and its interesting that you view your kids as being sent to school younger when I assume they are are actually on age.Lacrosse should move to age based not school grade like other sports in my opinion , lets see kids who are the same age play against one another, at what point is it an unfair advantage 1,2,3 years older. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for athletic advantage seems like misplaced praise at best.

Sure, a great pass may lead to a Goal but a great (or even good/bad) pass is not necessarily an assist.

^If the scoring player has to dodge a defender
^If the scoring player had to move more than 4 steps
^Yes a tipped ball (by the offense) is a goal for the person who tipped it in and an assist for the person who originally shot it.

Can someone confirm these books. The stats are already rampant with bad counts.

1 or 2 "extras" can equal 16-32 a season. It adds up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure, a great pass may lead to a Goal but a great (or even good/bad) pass is not necessarily an assist.

^If the scoring player has to dodge a defender
^If the scoring player had to move more than 4 steps
^Yes a tipped ball (by the offense) is a goal for the person who tipped it in and an assist for the person who originally shot it.

Can someone confirm these books. The stats are already rampant with bad counts.

1 or 2 "extras" can equal 16-32 a season. It adds up!

Who cares? HS stats do not matter. Please tell me what impact they have on anything? If you are really concerned then you should keep your daughters stats and send them to the coach if the school has incorrect stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

I don't know where your facts are found-it's hilarious that you make up facts. Here' some facts for you:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/delray-sun/fl-drf-sp-selectlax-0110-20180107-story.html
It's very sad to hate on another's success-good luck to your fabulous kid. I watched the same indoor thing. The game you are referring to was one where 6 yellow cards were given to one team and 0 to the other. There was nothing unsportsmanlike and the NY team playing afterward asked what in the heck happened with the refs? One yellow was for boxing out on a ground ball? The team played 3 men down almost the entire second half and played hard to the end. This kid is targeted in club and high school games with kids taking cheap shots at her and she handles it with incredible sportsmanship. It is dirty and unsportsmanlike how kids take her out-it's definitely intentional. A hero's green player took her out hard this summer and during the yellow sat there and laughed-that is unsportsmanlike. As far as being a holdback-who cares? How many kids are held back-it's only in their best interest. She has a summer birthday-big deal. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for multiple reasons. All LI and Maryland kids are not all playing on age. I have kids who weren't held back and too bad for them that I didn't but they are fine and I don't complain that I sent them to school younger. I think this kid will have a very successful college career. You can hate and disagree but time will show that hard work pays off whatever your age. Hate does nothing but make people bitter.

This is not about the kid, who is an excellent player and nice kid , its about your response .Are you too dense to see that it comes across as when other teams get a yellow card its dirty and unsportsmanlike but when your team does its the refs and just hard play. The being held back thing is a whole other matter and its interesting that you view your kids as being sent to school younger when I assume they are are actually on age.Lacrosse should move to age based not school grade like other sports in my opinion , lets see kids who are the same age play against one another, at what point is it an unfair advantage 1,2,3 years older. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for athletic advantage seems like misplaced praise at best.

Part of the equation is that US Lacrosse likes to be able to tout how the game is growing and there are great players coming from all over the country and not just the traditional hot beds. In many cases they go out of their way to pump up a kid from Texas, FL, etc so they can pat themselves on the back for all the great work they're doing to grow the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

I don't know where your facts are found-it's hilarious that you make up facts. Here' some facts for you:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/delray-sun/fl-drf-sp-selectlax-0110-20180107-story.html
It's very sad to hate on another's success-good luck to your fabulous kid. I watched the same indoor thing. The game you are referring to was one where 6 yellow cards were given to one team and 0 to the other. There was nothing unsportsmanlike and the NY team playing afterward asked what in the heck happened with the refs? One yellow was for boxing out on a ground ball? The team played 3 men down almost the entire second half and played hard to the end. This kid is targeted in club and high school games with kids taking cheap shots at her and she handles it with incredible sportsmanship. It is dirty and unsportsmanlike how kids take her out-it's definitely intentional. A hero's green player took her out hard this summer and during the yellow sat there and laughed-that is unsportsmanlike. As far as being a holdback-who cares? How many kids are held back-it's only in their best interest. She has a summer birthday-big deal. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for multiple reasons. All LI and Maryland kids are not all playing on age. I have kids who weren't held back and too bad for them that I didn't but they are fine and I don't complain that I sent them to school younger. I think this kid will have a very successful college career. You can hate and disagree but time will show that hard work pays off whatever your age. Hate does nothing but make people bitter.

This is not about the kid, who is an excellent player and nice kid , its about your response .Are you too dense to see that it comes across as when other teams get a yellow card its dirty and unsportsmanlike but when your team does its the refs and just hard play. The being held back thing is a whole other matter and its interesting that you view your kids as being sent to school younger when I assume they are are actually on age.Lacrosse should move to age based not school grade like other sports in my opinion , lets see kids who are the same age play against one another, at what point is it an unfair advantage 1,2,3 years older. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for athletic advantage seems like misplaced praise at best.

Part of the equation is that US Lacrosse likes to be able to tout how the game is growing and there are great players coming from all over the country and not just the traditional hot beds. In many cases they go out of their way to pump up a kid from Texas, FL, etc so they can pat themselves on the back for all the great work they're doing to grow the game

Yes, that is exactly why Syracuse, North Carolina and just about every other Top 10 school wanted her. You people have no clue.

Bash a coach, knock a program, call out an official or a parent but please stop attacking HS kids.

Yes, that is exactly why Syracuse, North Carolina and just about every other Top 10 school wanted her. You people have no clue

I know that is not true but even if it were there are probably 15 other kids in the age group who are actually in the age group that can say the same thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealousy is an ugly thing. Haters will hate but adults hating on kids is disgusting!! The TOP 2020 is an incredible player. And her club team has beat the top LI YJ teams every time they played them in the A top division at the summer tournaments also beat M&D Black as well. Spew your hate and false facts because you can’t believe that a kid from Florida has received accolades and awards that your incredibly talented girl did not get. This kid is the hardest working kid probably in the country, has an awesome lax IQ and plays 110% with all her heart. Shame on you for your hate towards this humble young lady’s success!

Thats hillarious ,make up facts .The kid is good but maxed out .Watched at indoor thing and lets say unsportsmanlike at best, possibly would be considered a dirty player and the reason she was kicked out of game . If she played on LI she would be considered a good player but would not be getting the accolades she gets now . She may be the hardest working hold back in lacrosse but all that tells me is she is maxed out. She has been hyped beyond her abilities so good luck to her but at least be honest , she is not nearly as successful during her competitive summer games and if she were playing on age would be nothing special on LI .

I don't know where your facts are found-it's hilarious that you make up facts. Here' some facts for you:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/delray-sun/fl-drf-sp-selectlax-0110-20180107-story.html
It's very sad to hate on another's success-good luck to your fabulous kid. I watched the same indoor thing. The game you are referring to was one where 6 yellow cards were given to one team and 0 to the other. There was nothing unsportsmanlike and the NY team playing afterward asked what in the heck happened with the refs? One yellow was for boxing out on a ground ball? The team played 3 men down almost the entire second half and played hard to the end. This kid is targeted in club and high school games with kids taking cheap shots at her and she handles it with incredible sportsmanship. It is dirty and unsportsmanlike how kids take her out-it's definitely intentional. A hero's green player took her out hard this summer and during the yellow sat there and laughed-that is unsportsmanlike. As far as being a holdback-who cares? How many kids are held back-it's only in their best interest. She has a summer birthday-big deal. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for multiple reasons. All LI and Maryland kids are not all playing on age. I have kids who weren't held back and too bad for them that I didn't but they are fine and I don't complain that I sent them to school younger. I think this kid will have a very successful college career. You can hate and disagree but time will show that hard work pays off whatever your age. Hate does nothing but make people bitter.

This is not about the kid, who is an excellent player and nice kid , its about your response .Are you too dense to see that it comes across as when other teams get a yellow card its dirty and unsportsmanlike but when your team does its the refs and just hard play. The being held back thing is a whole other matter and its interesting that you view your kids as being sent to school younger when I assume they are are actually on age.Lacrosse should move to age based not school grade like other sports in my opinion , lets see kids who are the same age play against one another, at what point is it an unfair advantage 1,2,3 years older. Kudos to parents who hold their kids back for athletic advantage seems like misplaced praise at best.

Part of the equation is that US Lacrosse likes to be able to tout how the game is growing and there are great players coming from all over the country and not just the traditional hot beds. In many cases they go out of their way to pump up a kid from Texas, FL, etc so they can pat themselves on the back for all the great work they're doing to grow the game

Yes, that is exactly why Syracuse, North Carolina and just about every other Top 10 school wanted her. You people have no clue.

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.

Early scoring leaders in Newsday for Nassau are all teams that begged out of the power conference and play in D2 and now are running it up against a weak schedule. the really good teams play teams with good defenses and spread the ball around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure, a great pass may lead to a Goal but a great (or even good/bad) pass is not necessarily an assist.

^If the scoring player has to dodge a defender
^If the scoring player had to move more than 4 steps
^Yes a tipped ball (by the offense) is a goal for the person who tipped it in and an assist for the person who originally shot it.

Can someone confirm these books. The stats are already rampant with bad counts.

1 or 2 "extras" can equal 16-32 a season. It adds up!

Who cares? HS stats do not matter. Please tell me what impact they have on anything? If you are really concerned then you should keep your daughters stats and send them to the coach if the school has incorrect stats.

Who cares you ask, almost everyone on this site!

[/quote]

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.[/quote]

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.[/quote]

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter. [/quote]

That’s it though, she’s not better. But she’s being put on a pedestal like she’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty sure that’s what the issue is. She’s in a group of elite players, nothing more nothing less.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter. [/quote]

That’s it though, she’s not better. But she’s being put on a pedestal like she’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty sure that’s what the issue is. She’s in a group of elite players, nothing more nothing less.
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That group of "elite players" is pretty small. She is being attacked because parents are delusional and jealous. I doubt any of the parents of girls ranked in the Top 20 - 30 are bashing the girl.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter.

That’s it though, she’s not better. But she’s being put on a pedestal like she’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty sure that’s what the issue is. She’s in a group of elite players, nothing more nothing less.
[/quote]

That group of "elite players" is pretty small. She is being attacked because parents are delusional and jealous. I doubt any of the parents of girls ranked in the Top 20 - 30 are bashing the girl.

[/quote]

You couldn't be more wrong,those are exactly the parents bashing the girl.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter. [/quote]

That’s it though, she’s not better. But she’s being put on a pedestal like she’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty sure that’s what the issue is. She’s in a group of elite players, nothing more nothing less.
[/quote]

Except she is the #1 recruit in her grade and the others are not. Nothing wrong with being 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter.

That’s it though, she’s not better. But she’s being put on a pedestal like she’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty sure that’s what the issue is. She’s in a group of elite players, nothing more nothing less.

That group of "elite players" is pretty small. She is being attacked because parents are delusional and jealous. I doubt any of the parents of girls ranked in the Top 20 - 30 are bashing the girl.

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You couldn't be more wrong,those are exactly the parents bashing the girl.[/quote]

Don't think so. It is usually the parents of players who do not get ranked, do not receive offers from top programs, do not make UA etc... who do the bashing and cry politics etc...

Think so....I’m one of them and it’s ridiculous to give so much attention to one girl when there are 30 others exactly like her!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter.

That’s it though, she’s not better. But she’s being put on a pedestal like she’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty sure that’s what the issue is. She’s in a group of elite players, nothing more nothing less.
[/quote]

Except she is the #1 recruit in her grade and the others are not. Nothing wrong with being 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc.[/quote]

Which grade are you talking about 2019 or 2020?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think so....I’m one of them and it’s ridiculous to give so much attention to one girl when there are 30 others exactly like her!

Then you are an absolute joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I have a clue. She is a very good player. She is not head and shoulders better that anyone in the top cohort, which includes about 25 girls who are interchangeable in their of talent on any given day. The reason why people are "attacking" her is that she is being put on a pedestal by certain political rankers. Anytime this is done, there will be criticism, because there are so many other girls just as deserving of this spotlight. Having a player of my own in this type of spotlight, I can tell you that it's rough at the top. You have a target on your back and people will pick apart everything your kid does. God forbid they have a bad day, which happens to everyone. Let it play out Dad or Mom, and stop commenting.

People attack because they are Jealous. They can not stand it when their kid is not recognized or when a player is considered better than their daughter.

That’s it though, she’s not better. But she’s being put on a pedestal like she’s the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty sure that’s what the issue is. She’s in a group of elite players, nothing more nothing less.

Except she is the #1 recruit in her grade and the others are not. Nothing wrong with being 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc.[/quote]

Which grade are you talking about 2019 or 2020?[/quote]

#1 according to a bunch of politics. Let’s se how she does this season, then we can talk about who’s #1. Just because you live outside the traditional lax powerhouses does not entitle you to go ahead of more talented girls...will all play out in the end the way it’s supposed to, not concerned.

#1 according to a bunch of politics. Let’s se how she does this season, then we can talk about who’s #1. Just because you live outside the traditional lax powerhouses does not entitle you to go ahead of more talented girls...will all play out in the end the way it’s supposed to, not concerned.
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What politics? Class of 2015 # 1 Recruit was from Long Island, 2016 #1 Recruit was from Long Island, 2017 # 1 Recruit was from Long Island, 2018 # 1 Recruit was from Maryland...

This season?? High School season has very little to do with anything. The top colleges do not recruit at HS games, Inside Lacrosse does not rank players based on HS, Under Armour does not select their Senior All-American based on HS season.

I am sure it will all play out just fine, just not the way you would like it to. All of the hate, bitterness and jealousy will not change the natural order of things.

Congratulations to the player for all of the well deserved accolades. I wish her much future success.

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Anyone know who won the MVP at last years Under Armour All American Game? A kid from Florida... Imagine that !!
Get over it already . I have never heard more excuses from grown adults trying to diminish a HS kids accomplishments. I guess all of the college coaches and US Team coaches are in on the conspiracy.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who won the MVP at last years Under Armour All American Game? A kid from Florida... Imagine that !!
Get over it already . I have never heard more excuses from grown adults trying to diminish a HS kids accomplishments. I guess all of the college coaches and US Team coaches are in on the conspiracy.....

Here is the thing with that and its not sour grapes , the same kid got the MVP award at the school girls tournament , the thing is she did not play in the A division or even the B division. Its a little ridiculous that a kid playing against lesser competition gets the MVP ,looking back it has never happened before and the MVP has always been selected from the A championship division. If you dont think politics are involved in that you are just not being honest.

Islip HS honoring Kylie Ohlmiller at tomorrow's Islip vs Glenn game @ Islip HS. Congrats KO17!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who won the MVP at last years Under Armour All American Game? A kid from Florida... Imagine that !!
Get over it already . I have never heard more excuses from grown adults trying to diminish a HS kids accomplishments. I guess all of the college coaches and US Team coaches are in on the conspiracy.....

Here is the thing with that and its not sour grapes , the same kid got the MVP award at the school girls tournament , the thing is she did not play in the A division or even the B division. Its a little ridiculous that a kid playing against lesser competition gets the MVP ,looking back it has never happened before and the MVP has always been selected from the A championship division. If you dont think politics are involved in that you are just not being honest.

Hmmmmmm?? Not surprised at all. When does it stop??

Talking about last years Under Armour All American Game... Not The National Tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who won the MVP at last years Under Armour All American Game? A kid from Florida... Imagine that !!
Get over it already . I have never heard more excuses from grown adults trying to diminish a HS kids accomplishments. I guess all of the college coaches and US Team coaches are in on the conspiracy.....

Here is the thing with that and its not sour grapes , the same kid got the MVP award at the school girls tournament , the thing is she did not play in the A division or even the B division. Its a little ridiculous that a kid playing against lesser competition gets the MVP ,looking back it has never happened before and the MVP has always been selected from the A championship division. If you dont think politics are involved in that you are just not being honest.

The post was referring to the 2018 Under Armour All-American Senior Game. The MVP of that game was a player from Florida who I believe is now at USC.

BTW, the Under Armour All-American First Wave should be out any day now... How many Long Island players will there be in the first wave? One maybe two? How many total from Long Island this year? Seven or Eight?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

They do not get it wrong very often at the top programs (that is why they are consistently the top programs). You can only start 12 so just because a player doesn't start or see much playing time does not mean that the coaches got it wrong. Also, not every recruit is equal, each school has a #1 and a # 5 and a #10 recruit. You can't compare All-county, school girls, US Lacrosse AA with Under Armour All-American. Pretty sure there are more than 500 US Lacrosse AA's every year and forget about how many all-county / school girl players there are. Under Armour names 44 players. Not many of the #1's or UA All-Americans riding the bench. If the #8 or #9 recruit who received little to no scholarship is not seeing much playing time how did the coaches get it wrong?

The top programs consistently bring in the top recruits and the top programs consistently do better than the programs that do not get the top recruits. I know there are many on this site who want to believe that the college coaches at the top programs get it wrong "all the time" and that the Inside Lacrosse Player Rankings and Under Armour All-America are meaningless and political but the results say otherwise. UA, IL and the coaches from the best college programs all identify the same players as being the top recruits. For the most part those players go to the top college programs and those programs always seem to be among the top 10 - 20.

If they always got it wrong and the lists and teams were a joke i think we would see more parity but we do not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Islip HS honoring Kylie Ohlmiller at tomorrow's Islip vs Glenn game @ Islip HS. Congrats KO17!!

Celebration starts @ 3:45pm. Game is at 4:30pm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

Just because a player does not start or play much especially as a freshmen at a top program does not mean they got it wrong. Much tougher to break into the lineup at a top 10 program than it is at a program outside the top 30.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

Just because a player does not start or play much especially as a freshmen at a top program does not mean they got it wrong. Much tougher to break into the lineup at a top 10 program than it is at a program outside the top 30.

The best HS players typically start as freshmen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Islip HS honoring Kylie Ohlmiller at tomorrow's Islip vs Glenn game @ Islip HS. Congrats KO17!!

Celebration starts @ 3:45pm. Game is at 4:30pm.

Glenn down by 5 at 4:36pm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

They do not get it wrong very often at the top programs (that is why they are consistently the top programs). You can only start 12 so just because a player doesn't start or see much playing time does not mean that the coaches got it wrong. Also, not every recruit is equal, each school has a #1 and a # 5 and a #10 recruit. You can't compare All-county, school girls, US Lacrosse AA with Under Armour All-American. Pretty sure there are more than 500 US Lacrosse AA's every year and forget about how many all-county / school girl players there are. Under Armour names 44 players. Not many of the #1's or UA All-Americans riding the bench. If the #8 or #9 recruit who received little to no scholarship is not seeing much playing time how did the coaches get it wrong?

The top programs consistently bring in the top recruits and the top programs consistently do better than the programs that do not get the top recruits. I know there are many on this site who want to believe that the college coaches at the top programs get it wrong "all the time" and that the Inside Lacrosse Player Rankings and Under Armour All-America are meaningless and political but the results say otherwise. UA, IL and the coaches from the best college programs all identify the same players as being the top recruits. For the most part those players go to the top college programs and those programs always seem to be among the top 10 - 20.

If they always got it wrong and the lists and teams were a joke i think we would see more parity but we do not.

This post is just ignorant for several reasons. The top programs do get it wrong but bring in 5-6 top players every year while the not consistently top programs bring in 1-3 so if they both get 50 percent correct the top programs have 11 top players on the field while the others have 4 , meaning those top rograms can afford to get it wrong half the time. As far as UA AA's not riding the bench, wrong again , watch a Maryland game more sit the bench than play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

Just because a player does not start or play much especially as a freshmen at a top program does not mean they got it wrong. Much tougher to break into the lineup at a top 10 program than it is at a program outside the top 30.

The best HS players typically start as freshmen

Not always true at the top 10 programs. Looking at Boston College, Maryland and North Carolina. In competitive games very few freshmen are getting playing time.

Boston College Vs Syracuse: BC Starters - 1 grad student, 6 seniors, 1 RS Junior, 3 juniors, 1 sophomore . Subs were 1 senior, 1 junior, 1 Soph.

Maryland Vs Syracuse: Maryland Starters - 1 grad student, 8 seniors (I guess 50% don't quit), 2 Juniors, 1 Sophomore. Subs were 1 junior, 1 sop, 1 freshmen.

North Carolina Vs Maryland: Carolina Starters - 3 seniors, 3 juniors, 4 sophomore, 2 freshmen. Subs were 3 sophomores, 1 freshmen.

I am sure if the freshmen at those schools were at less competitive programs they would be getting more time. Tough to break in as a freshmen at top 10 - 20 programs. Really tough to break in at the top 5.

First article I've seen on the recruiting. Seems pretty one sided to me and doesn't take into account a number of things including multisport athletes in the Fall and having some idea of which camps, etc... to go to in the summer.

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/colle...hreatens-to-preempt-lacrosse-legislation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

Just because a player does not start or play much especially as a freshmen at a top program does not mean they got it wrong. Much tougher to break into the lineup at a top 10 program than it is at a program outside the top 30.

Thanks Captain Obvious

They do not get it wrong very often at the top programs (that is why they are consistently the top programs). You can only start 12 so just because a player doesn't start or see much playing time does not mean that the coaches got it wrong. Also, not every recruit is equal, each school has a #1 and a # 5 and a #10 recruit. You can't compare All-county, school girls, US Lacrosse AA with Under Armour All-American. Pretty sure there are more than 500 US Lacrosse AA's every year and forget about how many all-county / school girl players there are. Under Armour names 44 players. Not many of the #1's or UA All-Americans riding the bench. If the #8 or #9 recruit who received little to no scholarship is not seeing much playing time how did the coaches get it wrong?

The top programs consistently bring in the top recruits and the top programs consistently do better than the programs that do not get the top recruits. I know there are many on this site who want to believe that the college coaches at the top programs get it wrong "all the time" and that the Inside Lacrosse Player Rankings and Under Armour All-America are meaningless and political but the results say otherwise. UA, IL and the coaches from the best college programs all identify the same players as being the top recruits. For the most part those players go to the top college programs and those programs always seem to be among the top 10 - 20.

If they always got it wrong and the lists and teams were a joke i think we would see more parity but we do not. [/quote]

This post is just ignorant for several reasons. The top programs do get it wrong but bring in 5-6 top players every year while the not consistently top programs bring in 1-3 so if they both get 50 percent correct the top programs have 11 top players on the field while the others have 4 , meaning those top rograms can afford to get it wrong half the time. As far as UA AA's not riding the bench, wrong again , watch a Maryland game more sit the bench than play.[/quote]

You have no clue. The programs are not getting it wrong 50% of the time. What do you not understand ? Not every recruit at a top program is a "top recruit". The #9 at Maryland is not the same as the #1 at Maryland. Most college coaches do not expect their lower tier recruits to make an impact especially as a freshmen. As for the Maryland UA All-Americans riding the bench... Tell us who the are sitting behind. They are sitting behind upperclassmen who were also UA All-Americans. Next year, the current Juniors, sophomores and freshmen (who were UA-AA's) will fill the void left by the grad student and the 8 seniors that start.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every time players are ranked by Inside Lacrosse or selected to an all-star team the jealous parents go on the attack. They call the IL rankings a joke, they say that Under Armour is political and they try to knock the players and diminish the honor.

Every year it looks like 90% of the players who are ranked in the Top 40 and who are named UA All-Americans go to the Top 10 - 15 college programs. These programs appear to be the best every year. The same programs consistently outperform the other 100 or so programs. If the accolades are a joke and political why do college coaches from the best programs seem to identify the same players as being the best?

Same argument has been going on forever, everyone gets it wrong at every level - 35 kids on a roster and 17 see any meaningful playing time. I would bet the bench of any top 30 team is littered with HS All-Americans, UA All-Americans, School Girls players, All-County Players, etc., but they can't get on the field. Tom Brady drafted in the sixth round, Steph Curry 3-4 round, etc. BTW the list of Heisman Trophy winners who were NFL busts is enormous

Just because a player does not start or play much especially as a freshmen at a top program does not mean they got it wrong. Much tougher to break into the lineup at a top 10 program than it is at a program outside the top 30.

Thanks Captain Obvious

Apparently not so obvious to some on this site... ; )

Nice job by Sayville ,They have 5-6 great players (redacted)

great win by Patchogue with excellent ball movement. Suffolk County has a lot of great teams.

The US Lacrosse article seems to address what's best for the coaches. Doesn't always align with what's best for student-athletes, as you point out (official visits conflicting with fall HS sports, camp roulette, etc.). I wish US Lacrosse would conduct a poll of the 2020 families that just went through the new 9/1 contact date...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The US Lacrosse article seems to address what's best for the coaches. Doesn't always align with what's best for student-athletes, as you point out (official visits conflicting with fall HS sports, camp roulette, etc.). I wish US Lacrosse would conduct a poll of the 2020 families that just went through the new 9/1 contact date...

And a poll of the 2021 families that are spending thousands of dollars almost blindly because of the lack of communication. We are talking about a difference of 2.5 months. The new rules have helped things in terms of slowing it down. But common sense would tell you that the end of 10th grade makes more sense than the beginning of 11th. Have some insight going into the summer when you have to decide what camps to send your child to. Not to mention as pointed out above the issues with visits in September when most girls play a fall sport. The coaches say they want multi-sport athletes and then fight for rules that make it very difficult to be one so they can line their pockets with money from the camps. They like it this way. Sophomores didn't used to attend camps because they had already committed. Lot more money for their assistants this way.

my daughter is a 2020 who went on a handful of unofficial visits starting in 8th grade. At one point in March of 2017 just before they switched the rules she was very close to committing to a school because they told us the rules were changing and the door was going to close. My daughter decided she needed more time, and wasn't 100% sure. So she waited. Last spring she decided she wasn't going to do any camps, although she received general invites in the mail, and continued interest emails from schools to club. Midnight September 1st she got emails and calls from schools she really hadn't visited and considered, and ultimately committed a few weeks later to one of those schools, and we couldn't be happier.
As a parent who went through that process I wish we could have spoken to schools at the end of her sophomore year for a couple of reasons...1) there were schools she had hoped to hear from, and we considered spending the money to visit them, but with no idea how serious they would be we were wise to not spend the money (but others do and that's the catch with the schools $$$). 2) there were schools she heard from September 1 that she may have actually visited over the summer instead of cramming in 5 visits the first half of September (because they do play Fall sports and have schoolwork to do).
If they care about the kid, let them have the summertime to fit in some unrushed unofficial visits. Many kids are travelling for Lax anyway, some of these places can be on the way to and from the school. if you're a College coach and you really want a specific girl you can get that done AND still string along many others for the money grab camps.
In short, as a 2020 parent who just went through the circuit, July 1st seems reasonable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The US Lacrosse article seems to address what's best for the coaches. Doesn't always align with what's best for student-athletes, as you point out (official visits conflicting with fall HS sports, camp roulette, etc.). I wish US Lacrosse would conduct a poll of the 2020 families that just went through the new 9/1 contact date...

And a poll of the 2021 families that are spending thousands of dollars almost blindly because of the lack of communication. We are talking about a difference of 2.5 months. The new rules have helped things in terms of slowing it down. But common sense would tell you that the end of 10th grade makes more sense than the beginning of 11th. Have some insight going into the summer when you have to decide what camps to send your child to. Not to mention as pointed out above the issues with visits in September when most girls play a fall sport. The coaches say they want multi-sport athletes and then fight for rules that make it very difficult to be one so they can line their pockets with money from the camps. They like it this way. Sophomores didn't used to attend camps because they had already committed. Lot more money for their assistants this way.

Stop your complaining, don't do it if you don't like it...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The US Lacrosse article seems to address what's best for the coaches. Doesn't always align with what's best for student-athletes, as you point out (official visits conflicting with fall HS sports, camp roulette, etc.). I wish US Lacrosse would conduct a poll of the 2020 families that just went through the new 9/1 contact date...

And a poll of the 2021 families that are spending thousands of dollars almost blindly because of the lack of communication. We are talking about a difference of 2.5 months. The new rules have helped things in terms of slowing it down. But common sense would tell you that the end of 10th grade makes more sense than the beginning of 11th. Have some insight going into the summer when you have to decide what camps to send your child to. Not to mention as pointed out above the issues with visits in September when most girls play a fall sport. The coaches say they want multi-sport athletes and then fight for rules that make it very difficult to be one so they can line their pockets with money from the camps. They like it this way. Sophomores didn't used to attend camps because they had already committed. Lot more money for their assistants this way.

Stop your complaining, don't do it if you don't like it...

So you like randomly shelling out money to schools? Go ahead.

100% agree! As another parent of a 2020-I could have written this post.
My kid had 4 offers and took 7 unofficials Freshman year-the coaches were in no rebels and we're very thankful that our daughter took her time. We didn't think the rule would pass back in 2017 or if it did, the 2020s/2019s would have until August. The rule effective immediately was quite a shocker. The June 15th is a much better contact date than 9/1! My daughter did go to a few camps that were a waste of money. It would have been nice to talk to coaches over the summer and would be helpful to plan out camps, see who goes and watches at your tournaments, etc. Officials starting August 1 is great b/c the PSA can plan the visits and spread them out. We crammed all 5 officials in the month of september. Only one school put on pressure to commit--the rest told us to take the time needed and visit as many schools as needed. Getting to plan and spread out the officials would be very beneficial to kids. My girl ended up not getting to compete in her fall sport bc of all the visits. She also missed a ton of school. If she had more time, could have planned visits on teacher work days and holidays. In the end, my girl also ended up committing to a school that was not on the radar at all, but loves the school, great academics and got an awesome offer and is thrilled with her decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The US Lacrosse article seems to address what's best for the coaches. Doesn't always align with what's best for student-athletes, as you point out (official visits conflicting with fall HS sports, camp roulette, etc.). I wish US Lacrosse would conduct a poll of the 2020 families that just went through the new 9/1 contact date...

And a poll of the 2021 families that are spending thousands of dollars almost blindly because of the lack of communication. We are talking about a difference of 2.5 months. The new rules have helped things in terms of slowing it down. But common sense would tell you that the end of 10th grade makes more sense than the beginning of 11th. Have some insight going into the summer when you have to decide what camps to send your child to. Not to mention as pointed out above the issues with visits in September when most girls play a fall sport. The coaches say they want multi-sport athletes and then fight for rules that make it very difficult to be one so they can line their pockets with money from the camps. They like it this way. Sophomores didn't used to attend camps because they had already committed. Lot more money for their assistants this way.

Stop your complaining, don't do it if you don't like it...

So you like randomly shelling out money to schools? Go ahead.

Don't do it then, solves that problem...parents have been doing it for the last 20yrs, What makes you any different?

I am a parent of a 2019 that was affected by the rule change. I can not 100% for certain say that the rule change is right or wrong. But what I can say is that official visits should be done in the Fall when School is in session and fall ball is going on. The PSA gets a more realistic feel of college life at each campus academically, socially and Athletically. Also probably better to miss school early in the semester and during the off season, after all they are Student "lacrosse" athletes

Right on. Here are my well informed two cents having gone through the process...

PSA's need June to finish their sophomore years in the classroom. Last I checked, NY State schools are in session until June 25th. Do you want your child managing phone calls from college coaches when they are in the crunch time of end of the year projects and exams?

Conversations in June and July will equal offers and commitments sight unseen. Just you wait. A handful of college coaches and aggressive parents and club coaches will absolutely be trying to make this happen. Again, just you wait.

Let coaches evaluate all summer so they have the best handle on their needs and the talent out there in peace. Let PSA's play all summer long without having to manage phone calls and conversations with coaches.

Parents and PSA's DO YOUR RESEARCH. Ask your club and high school coach what level they think you have the potential to play at. Consider your academic standing--be realistic about what schools would be a good fit for you in that regard. Be smart about what camps and showcase events you CHOOSE to do. Remember no one is making your do anything...you have choices. You don't have to say yes to everything and anything.

Visits in August, when school isn't in session and the team isn't on campus will equal the same kind of uninformed decisions that 8th and 9th graders were making before the rule was put in place.

August is the only month of the year that is off for college coaches...first two weeks of the month are a dead period. I bet most won't even entertain visits in August.

Fall sports are an issue?? Talk to the college coaches about when you can and can't take visits based on your fall sport practice or game schedule. If a program is really interested in you, I can't imagine a college coach would want a PSA to miss an important practice or game for a visit to their school.

This is about finding the BEST match for PSA's and college programs. Getting to see the whole picture: academics, practice, team, coaches on a visit is the most critical piece to making an informed decision for BOTH PSA's and programs. If you have been through the recruiting process before, then you know that isn't happening in August.

Starting the recruiting process on September 1st is better for PSA's and the programs. Starting this process in September equals much better decisions and ultimately happier kids, families, programs.

The coaches know what they are doing here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right on. Here are my well informed two cents having gone through the process...

PSA's need June to finish their sophomore years in the classroom. Last I checked, NY State schools are in session until June 25th. Do you want your child managing phone calls from college coaches when they are in the crunch time of end of the year projects and exams?

Conversations in June and July will equal offers and commitments sight unseen. Just you wait. A handful of college coaches and aggressive parents and club coaches will absolutely be trying to make this happen. Again, just you wait.

Let coaches evaluate all summer so they have the best handle on their needs and the talent out there in peace. Let PSA's play all summer long without having to manage phone calls and conversations with coaches.

Parents and PSA's DO YOUR RESEARCH. Ask your club and high school coach what level they think you have the potential to play at. Consider your academic standing--be realistic about what schools would be a good fit for you in that regard. Be smart about what camps and showcase events you CHOOSE to do. Remember no one is making your do anything...you have choices. You don't have to say yes to everything and anything.

Visits in August, when school isn't in session and the team isn't on campus will equal the same kind of uninformed decisions that 8th and 9th graders were making before the rule was put in place.

August is the only month of the year that is off for college coaches...first two weeks of the month are a dead period. I bet most won't even entertain visits in August.

Fall sports are an issue?? Talk to the college coaches about when you can and can't take visits based on your fall sport practice or game schedule. If a program is really interested in you, I can't imagine a college coach would want a PSA to miss an important practice or game for a visit to their school.

This is about finding the BEST match for PSA's and college programs. Getting to see the whole picture: academics, practice, team, coaches on a visit is the most critical piece to making an informed decision for BOTH PSA's and programs. If you have been through the recruiting process before, then you know that isn't happening in August.

Starting the recruiting process on September 1st is better for PSA's and the programs. Starting this process in September equals much better decisions and ultimately happier kids, families, programs.

The coaches know what they are doing here.

Disagree with the majority of what you're saying. By the end of Soph year, the coaches know who they want, they don't need another summer to watch, they've been watching since 8th grade. As for managing phone calls?? Give me a break.

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

Originally Posted by Anonymous

great win by Patchogue with excellent ball movement. Suffolk County has a lot of great teams.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of bad ones too and the blowouts don't help either side.

You couldn't be MORE wrong. Maybe some coaches think they know who they want but by in large--they want to see kids play MORE and not feel rushed to make a decision about a player.

Remember ONE of the reasons the college coaches wanted the rule change in the first place is because kids weren't panning out and late bloomers were getting missed. If you don't think most kids change for better or worse from 9th-11th grade--then you really have no idea what you are talking about.

As for managing phone calls....have you had a kid go through the process to know what that is like? If you have, then you would know that it is fun and exciting, but also time consuming and stressful as well. How do you think getting phone calls and having conversations with college coaches throughout the summer club season would impact the dynamic of your daughters club team? Think about THAT for a minute....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be MORE wrong. Maybe some coaches think they know who they want but by in large--they want to see kids play MORE and not feel rushed to make a decision about a player.

Remember ONE of the reasons the college coaches wanted the rule change in the first place is because kids weren't panning out and late bloomers were getting missed. If you don't think most kids change for better or worse from 9th-11th grade--then you really have no idea what you are talking about.

As for managing phone calls....have you had a kid go through the process to know what that is like? If you have, then you would know that it is fun and exciting, but also time consuming and stressful as well. How do you think getting phone calls and having conversations with college coaches throughout the summer club season would impact the dynamic of your daughters club team? Think about THAT for a minute....

Spot on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

What's the biggest difference between the top 3 and Wantagh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be MORE wrong. Maybe some coaches think they know who they want but by in large--they want to see kids play MORE and not feel rushed to make a decision about a player.

Remember ONE of the reasons the college coaches wanted the rule change in the first place is because kids weren't panning out and late bloomers were getting missed. If you don't think most kids change for better or worse from 9th-11th grade--then you really have no idea what you are talking about.

As for managing phone calls....have you had a kid go through the process to know what that is like? If you have, then you would know that it is fun and exciting, but also time consuming and stressful as well. How do you think getting phone calls and having conversations with college coaches throughout the summer club season would impact the dynamic of your daughters club team? Think about THAT for a minute....

I have had two kids go through the process, and a third on the way, having the summer before Jr. year to communicate with coaches, visit schools during the week, or coupled with tournaments. Being able to talk to coaches at tournaments, would be awesome, and much less stressful than doing this stuff during school. What does communication with coaches have to do with club dynamics??? We all know who is getting recruited and where for the most part.

About 10 goals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be MORE wrong. Maybe some coaches think they know who they want but by in large--they want to see kids play MORE and not feel rushed to make a decision about a player.

Remember ONE of the reasons the college coaches wanted the rule change in the first place is because kids weren't panning out and late bloomers were getting missed. If you don't think most kids change for better or worse from 9th-11th grade--then you really have no idea what you are talking about.

As for managing phone calls....have you had a kid go through the process to know what that is like? If you have, then you would know that it is fun and exciting, but also time consuming and stressful as well. How do you think getting phone calls and having conversations with college coaches throughout the summer club season would impact the dynamic of your daughters club team? Think about THAT for a minute....

Agree with all of this.

My daughter is a 2020 whose club team got little exposure before fall of freshman year. The club she plays for is the best option in our area - no "top tier" clubs reasonably close - and we were not interested in the logistics of her playing for a team that wasn't local. We were also not interested in her emailing coaches and visiting colleges until after 8th grade....she was 13, after all. Once my daughter got exposure at fall recruiting tournaments her freshman year, she received a lot more interest from coaches including a number of top 20 programs. She sent many emails and had many phone calls (which required the extra step of scheduling times to call through the club coach) and some visits to schools that were most appealing to her. She found a school and lacrosse program that was a great all-around fit and committed prior to the rule change. Things worked out and we were comfortable with her decision, but I still think back to how crazy it was going through all that with a 14 year old.

Personally I think there should be no contact before or during freshman year. Let coaches have time to see more girls play and evaluate, and let players adjust to high school and play for a year without worrying so much about recruiting. I see the advantage of allowing contact (but no offers) during sophomore year so players and coaches can know where they stand with each other and prioritize which camps to attend, which players to watch more, etc.; but, there will be parents, clubs and college coaches who don't follow the rules. The line was crossed when recruiting crept into middle school. Some parents, club coaches and college coaches just couldn't help themselves, so now we have no contact at all until September 1st junior year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 10 goals

LOL, you are right this year anyway

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be MORE wrong. Maybe some coaches think they know who they want but by in large--they want to see kids play MORE and not feel rushed to make a decision about a player.

Remember ONE of the reasons the college coaches wanted the rule change in the first place is because kids weren't panning out and late bloomers were getting missed. If you don't think most kids change for better or worse from 9th-11th grade--then you really have no idea what you are talking about.

As for managing phone calls....have you had a kid go through the process to know what that is like? If you have, then you would know that it is fun and exciting, but also time consuming and stressful as well. How do you think getting phone calls and having conversations with college coaches throughout the summer club season would impact the dynamic of your daughters club team? Think about THAT for a minute....

Agree with all of this.

My daughter is a 2020 whose club team got little exposure before fall of freshman year. The club she plays for is the best option in our area - no "top tier" clubs reasonably close - and we were not interested in the logistics of her playing for a team that wasn't local. We were also not interested in her emailing coaches and visiting colleges until after 8th grade....she was 13, after all. Once my daughter got exposure at fall recruiting tournaments her freshman year, she received a lot more interest from coaches including a number of top 20 programs. She sent many emails and had many phone calls (which required the extra step of scheduling times to call through the club coach) and some visits to schools that were most appealing to her. She found a school and lacrosse program that was a great all-around fit and committed prior to the rule change. Things worked out and we were comfortable with her decision, but I still think back to how crazy it was going through all that with a 14 year old.

Personally I think there should be no contact before or during freshman year. Let coaches have time to see more girls play and evaluate, and let players adjust to high school and play for a year without worrying so much about recruiting. I see the advantage of allowing contact (but no offers) during sophomore year so players and coaches can know where they stand with each other and prioritize which camps to attend, which players to watch more, etc.; but, there will be parents, clubs and college coaches who don't follow the rules. The line was crossed when recruiting crept into middle school. Some parents, club coaches and college coaches just couldn't help themselves, so now we have no contact at all until September 1st junior year.

Exactly. And the new proposal is only moving the contact date back 2.5 months at the END of 10th grade. The slowing down the process has been great for the girls. But this 2.5 months allows families to make more informed decisions on how to spend their time and money that summer. There are actually 3 proposals which the one-sided US Lacrosse Magazine fails to mention. The original proposal is to allow contact 6/15 but no campus visits or offers until 8/1. There is a second proposal to allow offers on 6/15 because of the difficulty in compliance monitoring whether coaches are making offers once contact is allowed but still no visits until 8/1. The third proposal is to change all other sports(Excluding basketball, football, baseball and hockey) to these new rules with the exception of lacrosse. I fully agree that the process needed to be slowed down. This still has a firm date of 6/15 instead of 9/1. It's 2.5 months earlier, not 2 years. I am really baffled by those that feel this is somehow detrimental to the players and their families.

I would argue that teenage girls (in particular) trying to manage interest/phone calls and potential offers from college coaches in the midst of trying to perform their best over the course of the summer--has great potential to be more stressful than just waiting to until September 1st to formally begin the recruiting process. As you said, it's just 2.5 months. What's the big deal to wait and see who has TRUE interest until then? Coaches will have a much better idea of who they are interested in recruiting after 6 weeks of evaluating vs what....one weekend? Will NY kids even play on the June 8th weekend or will they be in State playoffs and exams?

Where to spend time and money this summer? Do some homework and send your kid to camps at schools she is interested in and that could be a good fit for her both academically and lacrosse wise.

And I will repeat, if you don't think it also has the potential to wreck havoc with club team dynamics, then you haven't been involved with this long enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

Agreed. NYS goes through these 3 schools. Some buzz about syosset as I think they moved up a Class. GC has 13 returning seniors and Manhasset defending champs.. geez. Suffolk teams .. hold my...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

The only reason CSH has staying power is because they play in C...When sett was in C CSH never won, Wantagh has been down in C for 2yrs and split county titles with CSH...Wantagh won B with GC and sett in it few years ago...With that said, those 3 are ranked in the top 15 in the country this year. Add into it that the top 3 have a little more coaching stability...sett 1st new coach in 15+ yrs, CSH same coach 10+ yrs, GC 20 yrs and Wantagh 4th new coach in 4yrs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would argue that teenage girls (in particular) trying to manage interest/phone calls and potential offers from college coaches in the midst of trying to perform their best over the course of the summer--has great potential to be more stressful than just waiting to until September 1st to formally begin the recruiting process. As you said, it's just 2.5 months. What's the big deal to wait and see who has TRUE interest until then? Coaches will have a much better idea of who they are interested in recruiting after 6 weeks of evaluating vs what....one weekend? Will NY kids even play on the June 8th weekend or will they be in State playoffs and exams?

Where to spend time and money this summer? Do some homework and send your kid to camps at schools she is interested in and that could be a good fit for her both academically and lacrosse wise.

And I will repeat, if you don't think it also has the potential to wreck havoc with club team dynamics, then you haven't been involved with this long enough.

100% agree, more backstabbing and me first nonsense in lax recruiting than in politics...Never seen so many people turn on each other in my life...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would argue that teenage girls (in particular) trying to manage interest/phone calls and potential offers from college coaches in the midst of trying to perform their best over the course of the summer--has great potential to be more stressful than just waiting to until September 1st to formally begin the recruiting process. As you said, it's just 2.5 months. What's the big deal to wait and see who has TRUE interest until then? Coaches will have a much better idea of who they are interested in recruiting after 6 weeks of evaluating vs what....one weekend? Will NY kids even play on the June 8th weekend or will they be in State playoffs and exams?

Where to spend time and money this summer? Do some homework and send your kid to camps at schools she is interested in and that could be a good fit for her both academically and lacrosse wise.

And I will repeat, if you don't think it also has the potential to wreck havoc with club team dynamics, then you haven't been involved with this long enough.

Of course she con go to camps that she is interested. Point is, wouldn't it be better if it made any sense to go to those camps. In other words, if contact is allowed, you can attend camps where you know there is genuine interest. Maybe spending $600 to go to a camp for 2-3 days isn't a big deal to you, but for a lot of us it is. Plus time wise she may only have a chance to go to 1 or 2 camps this summer. It would be great if that time and money was spent on a school where this is mutual interest.

In terms of this summer and coaches evaluating, the kids that would be contacted 6/15 are the ones the coaches already know they are interested in. As someone said previously, coaches have been watching a lot of these girls for 3 years already. This isn't going to speed up the process for everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

The only reason CSH has staying power is because they play in C...When sett was in C CSH never won, Wantagh has been down in C for 2yrs and split county titles with CSH...Wantagh won B with GC and sett in it few years ago...With that said, those 3 are ranked in the top 15 in the country this year. Add into it that the top 3 have a little more coaching stability...sett 1st new coach in 15+ yrs, CSH same coach 10+ yrs, GC 20 yrs and Wantagh 4th new coach in 4yrs.

Wantagh has had 4 coaches in 4 years? Why???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be MORE wrong. Maybe some coaches think they know who they want but by in large--they want to see kids play MORE and not feel rushed to make a decision about a player.

Remember ONE of the reasons the college coaches wanted the rule change in the first place is because kids weren't panning out and late bloomers were getting missed. If you don't think most kids change for better or worse from 9th-11th grade--then you really have no idea what you are talking about.

As for managing phone calls....have you had a kid go through the process to know what that is like? If you have, then you would know that it is fun and exciting, but also time consuming and stressful as well. How do you think getting phone calls and having conversations with college coaches throughout the summer club season would impact the dynamic of your daughters club team? Think about THAT for a minute....

Spot on

Not accurate at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would argue that teenage girls (in particular) trying to manage interest/phone calls and potential offers from college coaches in the midst of trying to perform their best over the course of the summer--has great potential to be more stressful than just waiting to until September 1st to formally begin the recruiting process. As you said, it's just 2.5 months. What's the big deal to wait and see who has TRUE interest until then? Coaches will have a much better idea of who they are interested in recruiting after 6 weeks of evaluating vs what....one weekend? Will NY kids even play on the June 8th weekend or will they be in State playoffs and exams?

Where to spend time and money this summer? Do some homework and send your kid to camps at schools she is interested in and that could be a good fit for her both academically and lacrosse wise.

And I will repeat, if you don't think it also has the potential to wreck havoc with club team dynamics, then you haven't been involved with this long enough.

Of course she con go to camps that she is interested. Point is, wouldn't it be better if it made any sense to go to those camps. In other words, if contact is allowed, you can attend camps where you know there is genuine interest. Maybe spending $600 to go to a camp for 2-3 days isn't a big deal to you, but for a lot of us it is. Plus time wise she may only have a chance to go to 1 or 2 camps this summer. It would be great if that time and money was spent on a school where this is mutual interest.

In terms of this summer and coaches evaluating, the kids that would be contacted 6/15 are the ones the coaches already know they are interested in. As someone said previously, coaches have been watching a lot of these girls for 3 years already. This isn't going to speed up the process for everyone.

So naive, coaches still looking to fill their camps, all about the money...ask the older kids how many camps they're been to that the schools were interested in, and they got a thanks for coming...wise up and plan on wasting some time and money, and if you don't, consider yourself lucky.

College coaches have ALWAYS wanted kids who are interested in to come to their camps...this is nothing new. It is a valuable experience for PSA's to experience campus, the coaching staff and team in most cases. Likewise, it is valuable for coaches to work with kids to get to know them better as players and people and see if their work ethic and coachability squares up with their talent. I feel certain that kids have solidified their position on a coaches list by their performance at a camp and have also worked their way down or off a list as well.

What is new is kids going to 5-6-7 camps/showcase events in ADDITION to their summer club schedule. That is crazy. As someone said before, you have choices and parents can say no. Club and high school coaches should help kids and families with the decisions about camps. They should be able give you a sense of what programs are interested and which would be a good fit from an academic, personality and talent standpoint so you aren't just guessing.

One last thought. There are tons of games streamed on line. PSA's and parents should watch on-line and try to be objective about where they think their son/daughter can play. That can also help make decisions about camps/clinics, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coaches have ALWAYS wanted kids who are interested in to come to their camps...this is nothing new. It is a valuable experience for PSA's to experience campus, the coaching staff and team in most cases. Likewise, it is valuable for coaches to work with kids to get to know them better as players and people and see if their work ethic and coachability squares up with their talent. I feel certain that kids have solidified their position on a coaches list by their performance at a camp and have also worked their way down or off a list as well.

What is new is kids going to 5-6-7 camps/showcase events in ADDITION to their summer club schedule. That is crazy. As someone said before, you have choices and parents can say no. Club and high school coaches should help kids and families with the decisions about camps. They should be able give you a sense of what programs are interested and which would be a good fit from an academic, personality and talent standpoint so you aren't just guessing.

One last thought. There are tons of games streamed on line. PSA's and parents should watch on-line and try to be objective about where they think their son/daughter can play. That can also help make decisions about camps/clinics, etc.

please send me in the direction of a club whose director is helpful. my daughters doesnt even talk to the kids or respond

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

What's the biggest difference between the top 3 and Wantagh?

why would you think Wantagh is #4?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

What's the biggest difference between the top 3 and Wantagh?

why would you think Wantagh is #4?

They may not be 4 but is you look at past four years they won 2 county championships, one in B and the other in C. They losy in one semi in B and lost a championship game in the C's. Don't know what this year holds but pretty good track record.

Then maybe you should consider playing for a different club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

What's the biggest difference between the top 3 and Wantagh?

why would you think Wantagh is #4?

Who you got at 4? pls don't start with the A teams...

Big Game tomorrow. Northport visiting Smithtown West. Top two powerhouses in Suffolk. who do you think will win????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game tomorrow. Northport visiting Smithtown West. Top two powerhouses in Suffolk. who do you think will win????

Top two Conf A teams you mean...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

The only reason CSH has staying power is because they play in C...When sett was in C CSH never won, Wantagh has been down in C for 2yrs and split county titles with CSH...Wantagh won B with GC and sett in it few years ago...With that said, those 3 are ranked in the top 15 in the country this year. Add into it that the top 3 have a little more coaching stability...sett 1st new coach in 15+ yrs, CSH same coach 10+ yrs, GC 20 yrs and Wantagh 4th new coach in 4yrs.

Wantagh has had 4 coaches in 4 years? Why???

Because the parents are insane - same as huntington - they either run the coach out of town or the coach leaves rater than deal with them

Easy with the ABC stuff. CSH beat both Manhasset and GC last year and they have ALWAYS competed... We'll see what happens this year...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Wantagh has fallen back to earth after a handful of good years. As someone who has watched Nassau forever, I would say the 3 schools with staying power year after year are GC, CSH, Manhasset others all others just come and go

The only reason CSH has staying power is because they play in C...When sett was in C CSH never won, Wantagh has been down in C for 2yrs and split county titles with CSH...Wantagh won B with GC and sett in it few years ago...With that said, those 3 are ranked in the top 15 in the country this year. Add into it that the top 3 have a little more coaching stability...sett 1st new coach in 15+ yrs, CSH same coach 10+ yrs, GC 20 yrs and Wantagh 4th new coach in 4yrs.

Wantagh has had 4 coaches in 4 years? Why???

Because the parents are insane - same as huntington - they either run the coach out of town or the coach leaves rater than deal with them

Not really..4th coach is current, 2 others were not given teaching jobs in the district and went to other school districts, and the other year the one coach and assistant coach had some issues.

The reason CSH is in C div is because the 10-12 grade is 485 students ( half girls 242 ) vs Manhasset 10-12 grade is 851 ( half girls 425 ). Thats group of 183 girls ( 28% more) !!
CSH beat Manhasset last season ( their only loss ) and also St Anthony ( catholic School ) that has the entire island to pull players !
The truth is CSH is coached better and has a great youth program !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easy with the ABC stuff. CSH beat both Manhasset and GC last year and they have ALWAYS competed... We'll see what happens this year...

That was the 1st time they beat those teams in a long long while...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The reason CSH is in C div is because the 10-12 grade is 485 students ( half girls 242 ) vs Manhasset 10-12 grade is 851 ( half girls 425 ). Thats group of 183 girls ( 28% more) !!
CSH beat Manhasset last season ( their only loss ) and also St Anthony ( catholic School ) that has the entire island to pull players !
The truth is CSH is coached better and has a great youth program !!

Not sure what "Thats group of 183 girls" means or what kind of calculator you used, but 425 is 75% more than 242.

They beat Manhasset but lost to GC last year, 13 to 8. Not taking anything away from them but let’s get facts straight.

Regarding 2018-93, the $ greedy college coaches want to keep the lacrosse date 9/1 because 9/1 enables coaches to run another round of money making summer camps .
If the date was 6/15 coaches would commit the "true recruits" the coaches were truly interested in on 6/15 and then the 100's of mislead non-recruits would not go to the coaches' money making camps.
The coaches had a stronger argument when they moved recruiting back 3 YEARS. But now the extra 2 MONTHS coaches want are just for the coaches to make money on 2 months of camps.
Players do not miraculously mature in those last 2 months. It is those 2 months the coaches want to make more money from camps.
The lacrosse coaches want 9/1 instead of 6/15 because of $ greed.
As usual US Lacrosse has sold out to the money and the coaches instead of putting the kids first. Let's hope the NCAA puts the kids first this time.
The NCAA needs to stand up to the coaches and make the date 6/15 like the other sports.
email addresses:
bjames@miami.edu
athdir@pobox.upenn.edu
Proposal #'s:
2018-93 is for June 15th contact like other sports
2018-93-2 is Lax Coach Camp $ greed Sept 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game tomorrow. Northport visiting Smithtown West. Top two powerhouses in Suffolk. who do you think will win????

Top two Conf A teams you mean...

Northport will destroy west.

Good luck. Should be a great game at West this afternoon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding 2018-93, the $ greedy college coaches want to keep the lacrosse date 9/1 because 9/1 enables coaches to run another round of money making summer camps .
If the date was 6/15 coaches would commit the "true recruits" the coaches were truly interested in on 6/15 and then the 100's of mislead non-recruits would not go to the coaches' money making camps.
The coaches had a stronger argument when they moved recruiting back 3 YEARS. But now the extra 2 MONTHS coaches want are just for the coaches to make money on 2 months of camps.
Players do not miraculously mature in those last 2 months. It is those 2 months the coaches want to make more money from camps.
The lacrosse coaches want 9/1 instead of 6/15 because of $ greed.
As usual US Lacrosse has sold out to the money and the coaches instead of putting the kids first. Let's hope the NCAA puts the kids first this time.
The NCAA needs to stand up to the coaches and make the date 6/15 like the other sports.
email addresses:
bjames@miami.edu
athdir@pobox.upenn.edu
Proposal #'s:
2018-93 is for June 15th contact like other sports
2018-93-2 is Lax Coach Camp $ greed Sept 1

Spot on!!!! I have sent in emails

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Very well said. Can't imagine a player can get a great sense of a school if they visit when no one is there (July/August). My oldest thought she didn't like several schools that we toured in the summer, until she went back when class was in session and could actually get a feel for the student body.

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

September 1 has not negatively impacted their camp numbers. There are just as many 8th and 9th graders attending as ever and the numbers for 10th graders are much higher because they are not committed as they would have been in the past.

No one is arguing that the overall impact of the change has been good. But lacrosse arguing over 2 months is silly. No one is stopping the kids from visiting schools now that they are interested in. Just because they can't talk to the coaches they can certainly visit the school, take tours, even sit in classes. That argument just doesn't fly. Coaches have been watching current 2021s for 3 years. They don't need 4 more tournaments to figure it out. Most coaches were watching 2021's last summer. Many coaches will have moved on to watching 2022s this summer. Many were watching 2022s already last summer.

All I am saying is that if you ask women's college coaches, they will absolutely tell you camp #'s are down since the Sept 1 legislation.

Arguing over 2 months is far from silly. Maybe a handful of college coaches have been watching 21's for three years but that is not the majority. Coaches are watching those games to ID kids and make their list. Most of them spent the majority of last summer watching 20's intently. Just because they were maybe at '21 games--doesn't mean they walked away with a full evaluation. I am telling you the coaches want the summer after sophomore year to evaluate a 16 year old kid who won't show up on their campus until they are 18. Kids can change and mature physically between fall and spring of sophomore year. Likewise, their game can either be on the upward swing or stagnant. Coaches want to see that they are progressing on the field. Trust me. Four more tournaments matter.

As for visits. Visit away. Get a feel for a campus--go to class if you want when you are a freshman or sophomore in high school. I promise it will look different to a kid when they are a junior.

Last, what about the team? What about watching practice? What about seeing the athletic facilities and meeting with academic counselors...you can't do that on a 'visit' as a freshman on sophomore.

My biggest question is this. WHAT IS THE rebels?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

Nobody is forcing anyone to commit. The whole rule of banning contact is dumb in the first place. It's a freaking verbal for God's sake. Let the parents and kids make the decision that suits them, I'm not a fan of all this interference at all!!! Let people decide when and where they want to commit, everyone else should mind their business!

SHA nice win today! Embarrassing, but I guess your star player had to start pumping up her stats...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

I would have to say that 2021 class will definitely be the most observed class ever, by the college coaches. They have been looked at and observed by the coaches way longer and more thoroughly than any class ever before. Now with the contact and verbals pushed back to summer entering Jr year, you should see a much better percentage of coaches getting it right. The top players of the age group are going to be in more demand than ever as they have had full exposure to nearly all the top programs, something that was completely missing with the early commit thing. They have to be thrilled that the gamble they are now taking on a kid is much closer to the product they will see walking through their doors freshman year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

I would have to say that 2021 class will definitely be the most observed class ever, by the college coaches. They have been looked at and observed by the coaches way longer and more thoroughly than any class ever before. Now with the contact and verbals pushed back to summer entering Jr year, you should see a much better percentage of coaches getting it right. The top players of the age group are going to be in more demand than ever as they have had full exposure to nearly all the top programs, something that was completely missing with the early commit thing. They have to be thrilled that the gamble they are now taking on a kid is much closer to the product they will see walking through their doors freshman year.

Wrong. Early recruiting was driven by the coaches at the "Top Programs". The coaches from places like Maryland, Northwestern, North Carolina, Boston College etc... were all fighting to get the top kids. They were all competing for the same small group of players. The coaches know what they are looking for and they can spot it early and it does not change that much. As for "getting it right" the top programs do not miss very often. By the way, the top programs were not blanket recruiting 9th graders, Each program was targeting a select group of players. There were not hundreds of players being recruited by the top programs when they were in the 9th grade. The coaches at the top programs do not get it wrong very often and there are very few "late bloomers" out there. When the "stud late bloomer" does pop up the top programs will recruit them even if they are committed elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

I would have to say that 2021 class will definitely be the most observed class ever, by the college coaches. They have been looked at and observed by the coaches way longer and more thoroughly than any class ever before. Now with the contact and verbals pushed back to summer entering Jr year, you should see a much better percentage of coaches getting it right. The top players of the age group are going to be in more demand than ever as they have had full exposure to nearly all the top programs, something that was completely missing with the early commit thing. They have to be thrilled that the gamble they are now taking on a kid is much closer to the product they will see walking through their doors freshman year.

They still have to get it right, Top players in more demand? You just like to hear yourself talk...stop the nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Thanks Mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

I would have to say that 2021 class will definitely be the most observed class ever, by the college coaches. They have been looked at and observed by the coaches way longer and more thoroughly than any class ever before. Now with the contact and verbals pushed back to summer entering Jr year, you should see a much better percentage of coaches getting it right. The top players of the age group are going to be in more demand than ever as they have had full exposure to nearly all the top programs, something that was completely missing with the early commit thing. They have to be thrilled that the gamble they are now taking on a kid is much closer to the product they will see walking through their doors freshman year.

Wrong. Early recruiting was driven by the coaches at the "Top Programs". The coaches from places like Maryland, Northwestern, North Carolina, Boston College etc... were all fighting to get the top kids. They were all competing for the same small group of players. The coaches know what they are looking for and they can spot it early and it does not change that much. As for "getting it right" the top programs do not miss very often. By the way, the top programs were not blanket recruiting 9th graders, Each program was targeting a select group of players. There were not hundreds of players being recruited by the top programs when they were in the 9th grade. The coaches at the top programs do not get it wrong very often and there are very few "late bloomers" out there. When the "stud late bloomer" does pop up the top programs will recruit them even if they are committed elsewhere.

Exactly! If the rule does change to 6/15 it's not like every girl is going to be overwhelmed with phone calls. There is a group of players that will be targeted early just as there was in the past before the 9/1 rule. What would help everyone is to be able to actually talk to coaches and see if there is genuine common interest. To be able to build relationships with the coaches. In most cases, girls will still have time and will be able to visit in the fall if they desire. Maybe 20-40 girls will be pushed to commit in that 2.5 month period between 6/15 and 9/1. But the benefits for everyone would be open communication.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Thanks Mom.

No, not Mom. One of my daughters has played with the girls and I am very happy for them. Congrats again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

I would have to say that 2021 class will definitely be the most observed class ever, by the college coaches. They have been looked at and observed by the coaches way longer and more thoroughly than any class ever before. Now with the contact and verbals pushed back to summer entering Jr year, you should see a much better percentage of coaches getting it right. The top players of the age group are going to be in more demand than ever as they have had full exposure to nearly all the top programs, something that was completely missing with the early commit thing. They have to be thrilled that the gamble they are now taking on a kid is much closer to the product they will see walking through their doors freshman year.

Wrong. Early recruiting was driven by the coaches at the "Top Programs". The coaches from places like Maryland, Northwestern, North Carolina, Boston College etc... were all fighting to get the top kids. They were all competing for the same small group of players. The coaches know what they are looking for and they can spot it early and it does not change that much. As for "getting it right" the top programs do not miss very often. By the way, the top programs were not blanket recruiting 9th graders, Each program was targeting a select group of players. There were not hundreds of players being recruited by the top programs when they were in the 9th grade. The coaches at the top programs do not get it wrong very often and there are very few "late bloomers" out there. When the "stud late bloomer" does pop up the top programs will recruit them even if they are committed elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

I would have to say that 2021 class will definitely be the most observed class ever, by the college coaches. They have been looked at and observed by the coaches way longer and more thoroughly than any class ever before. Now with the contact and verbals pushed back to summer entering Jr year, you should see a much better percentage of coaches getting it right. The top players of the age group are going to be in more demand than ever as they have had full exposure to nearly all the top programs, something that was completely missing with the early commit thing. They have to be thrilled that the gamble they are now taking on a kid is much closer to the product they will see walking through their doors freshman year.

They still have to get it right, Top players in more demand? You just like to hear yourself talk...stop the nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a pretty shallow (and repetitive) argument on multiple threads btw. You are implying that college coaches have no integrity here. I think that is unfair.

The coaches on the women's side studied this for 4+ years considering different dates and strategies to slow down recruiting. Many people wanted July 1 of senior year...coaches knew it wouldn't have enough support. That said....the September 1st date was all about having a full summer to evaluate and play in peace (no phone calls or texts); having August for families and coaches to unwind from a busy summer and having the fall to visit schools when teams are on campus and school is in session so PSA's could see a full day in the life of a player. Important information for better decision making on both sides of the equation.

Coaches wanting kids to come to their camp has not changed in 10-15 years. If you ask college coaches (on the women's side at least), they will tell you the Sept 1st legislation has impacted their camp numbers negatively...but they do not care because they think the impact of the rule has been good so far.

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

I would have to say that 2021 class will definitely be the most observed class ever, by the college coaches. They have been looked at and observed by the coaches way longer and more thoroughly than any class ever before. Now with the contact and verbals pushed back to summer entering Jr year, you should see a much better percentage of coaches getting it right. The top players of the age group are going to be in more demand than ever as they have had full exposure to nearly all the top programs, something that was completely missing with the early commit thing. They have to be thrilled that the gamble they are now taking on a kid is much closer to the product they will see walking through their doors freshman year.

They still have to get it right, Top players in more demand? You just like to hear yourself talk...stop the nonsense.

In more demand absolutely.That was the entire reason early recruiting was happening, a few programs were getting more and more aggressive trying to get a jump on the competition by offering earlier and earlier every year. So many of those kids never got to fully explore all options. Not the case for all, but many parents were in a race to have their kid to commit. Yes the group of say top 50 will get heaps of calls on opening day. Here is the difference, most of the coaches have now had a chance to see the top players, and all understand they need to get offers in on the opening bell. Instead of lone coaches sneaking out offers a little earlier each year. These top players are in a much better position now, they will compile every school interested on day one, rather than no opening bell and the interest trickling in as coaches uncomfortably made offers earlier and earlier trying to beat the rebels. Been through this first hand, and got the feeling from nearly all the coaches that they were very uncomfortable with early recruiting but felt they needed to do it because others were doing it and they had no choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you didn't get the email from Duke that states "Note: all but one of our six 2020 commits have been to our camps consistently over the last few years."

Which is weird because word on the street is DUKE was one of the main players behind the rule change and the amendment 2018-93-2, I felt/feel like I have to take my daughter to every Duke event if she wants to a chance to attend Duke. Hey in a few months I can find out if it was worth it, it only took three or four events at one school.

[ChillLaxin].

Shallow or repetitive....sorry someone needs to tell the parents because so they can at least be informed. The 21's got screwed and there is no way to fix it. The least we could do is talk to the people taking our money at camp and maybe for four years after that.

Oh please, 2021s were in middle school when the rule changed and were not screwed. If your kid is truly a good player and was being recruited in middle school, she will still be a top recruit on Sept 1st. If your kid does not get as much interest on Sept 1st as she did in middle school because other players passed her by, consider yourself lucky to find this out before making a commitment in 8th or 9th grade. No one is wasting time worrying about 2.5 months except you parents who can't handle waiting to live through your kids and brag/post on social media about all the visits and offers.

I have been through the recruiting process with my kid, and every program does it differently! Maybe Duke relies heavily on their camps, I don't know; but, if you don't like that coach's approach then look at other programs. Most interest my daughter received stemmed from being seen at recruiting tournaments with her club team. She had lots of interest and multiple offers from schools where she never attended a camp or clinic. Many programs like to get to know players at their prospect clinics after expressing interest, and if your daughter is being recruited by that program she will be placed in a group of other girls being recruited and closely evaluated. That situation is worth the money because the girls get a feel for the coaches and their style. Visits in fall and winter during school are best because the recruits have the opportunity to spend time with the team, attend practice, and even spend the night and hang out socially with players. These things are important for players to find the best fit.

Relax, it will all work out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Thanks Mom.

No, not Mom. One of my daughters has played with the girls and I am very happy for them. Congrats again.

Thats nice, a simple text or a phone call would have done it, no? Maybe stop by the house to congratulate them face to face? You are so very happy for them that you had to come on the forum to post it? You can see where people would question your motives here.

Correct! This is not about early recruiting, that is over. This is about the coaches wanting 2 extra month's of the player's money for camp by blocking the June 15th date. The Proposals do NOT reintroduce early recruiting, that was a false impression propagandized by the coaches.

Having gone through this with 2 division 1 boys, and now my daughter, please allow me to clarify.
Kimel sends thousands of personalized e-mails to girls' private email addresses, addressed to the girls by first name, leading them on that they are wanted at her recruiting camp. Kimel prays upon the uninformed who don't realize it's a money grab. Kimel and others who are trying to block the June 15th proposal should be embarrassed of their actions. The 2 months they are pushing for has nothing to do with kids' maturation process. The US lacrosse article must have accidentally left this bit of information out when quoting her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Thanks Mom.

No, not Mom. One of my daughters has played with the girls and I am very happy for them. Congrats again.

Thats nice, a simple text or a phone call would have done it, no? Maybe stop by the house to congratulate them face to face? You are so very happy for them that you had to come on the forum to post it? You can see where people would question your motives here.

What motive?? Why does this bother you... if this is a Mom of one of the 2 ESM girls .. who cares ignore it and continue to talk about the recruiting rule change,.. or WestHampton.. or Carol Rose

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Thanks Mom.

No, not Mom. One of my daughters has played with the girls and I am very happy for them. Congrats again.

Thats nice, a simple text or a phone call would have done it, no? Maybe stop by the house to congratulate them face to face? You are so very happy for them that you had to come on the forum to post it? You can see where people would question your motives here.

What motive?? Why does this bother you... if this is a Mom of one of the 2 ESM girls .. who cares ignore it and continue to talk about the recruiting rule change,.. or WestHampton.. or Carol Rose

If?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Thanks Mom.

No, not Mom. One of my daughters has played with the girls and I am very happy for them. Congrats again.

Thats nice, a simple text or a phone call would have done it, no? Maybe stop by the house to congratulate them face to face? You are so very happy for them that you had to come on the forum to post it? You can see where people would question your motives here.

It had to be a mom, there is now way that anyone else in this sport would be happy to see a player other than their own daughter do well.

So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

I though NP was supposed to be deep?? Figured the excuses would be coming. Tough to win when you don’t have the ball ‘eh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

The Florida commit isn't one of your best players?

So, Northport only has 2 good players? Good to know! Thanks mom

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

The Florida commit isn't one of your best players?

She's very good but there is a lot of depth also.

The Manhasset McDunough game was crap. The stalling needs to be stoped. I can see for a couple of minutes, but for over a quarter of the game?? Ridiculous!
And, what the heck happened to GC, bad bad loss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Manhasset McDunough game was garbage. The stalling needs to be stopped. I can see for a couple of minutes, but for over a quarter of the game?? Ridiculous!
And, what the heck happened to GC, bad bad loss

I'm not sure which is worse. The stalling or your spelling....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Manhasset McDunough game was garbage. The stalling needs to be stopped. I can see for a couple of minutes, but for over a quarter of the game?? Ridiculous!
And, what the heck happened to GC, bad bad loss

GC is just not that good, coaching is the only thing that will keep this group competitive, but don't expect them to be there at the end

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Manhasset McDunough game was garbage. The stalling needs to be stopped. I can see for a couple of minutes, but for over a quarter of the game?? Ridiculous!
And, what the heck happened to GC, bad bad loss

Oh I think the officiating was worse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

The Florida commit isn't one of your best players?

Will be interesting to see how ths team does when their 2 best players return.

I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

The Florida commit isn't one of your best players?

Will be interesting to see how ths team does when their 2 best players return.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

The Florida commit isn't one of your best players?

She's very good but there is a lot of depth also.

It there is so much depth, how was the score so lopsided against a middle level team on your own turf? Coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

The Florida commit isn't one of your best players?

Will be interesting to see how ths team does when their 2 best players return.

Smithtown W, Riverbed, Northport, Middle Country Final Four.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So......Northport gets beat down delivered by Smithtown East

Missing the two best players on our team, East won't be going anywhere come crunch time

The Florida commit isn't one of your best players?

Will be interesting to see how ths team does when their 2 best players return.

Smithtown W, Riverbed, Northport, Middle Country Final Four.

Smithtown East is doing better than West currently. The only game they lost was to WM when they had no goalie. Big matchups coming this week vs Riverhead will determine if they are a contender. I see WM in the final 4 for sure!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

There are plenty of teams guilty of this and if you think a 16yr old kid is going to get into with a 50yr old man over what's an assist and what isn't you're delusional. Everyone knows who cares about the stat sheet and who doesn't and neither kids or adults of teams getting beat up really care to get it right and some other teams are happy to go along as long as your'e ok with their stats

Nassau scoring leaderboard is a joke. Good players on bad teams with terrible coaching playing worse teams and then loading up those stats. Give me a break. Play in the power conference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the firs 11 players selected as Under Armour All-Americans. Big shout out to the two players from Long Island. Well deserved, Congrats!

Thanks Mom.

No, not Mom. One of my daughters has played with the girls and I am very happy for them. Congrats again.

Thats nice, a simple text or a phone call would have done it, no? Maybe stop by the house to congratulate them face to face? You are so very happy for them that you had to come on the forum to post it? You can see where people would question your motives here.

What motive?? Why does this bother you... if this is a Mom of one of the 2 ESM girls .. who cares ignore it and continue to talk about the recruiting rule change,.. or WestHampton.. or Carol Rose

WHO THE F CARES?!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

There are plenty of teams guilty of this and if you think a 16yr old kid is going to get into with a 50yr old man over what's an assist and what isn't you're delusional. Everyone knows who cares about the stat sheet and who doesn't and neither kids or adults of teams getting beat up really care to get it right and some other teams are happy to go along as long as your'e ok with their stats

While I agree with you there are a couple if issues with what you have posted other than knowing what your point actually is. If teams have a kid, who doesn't care, doing the book than that is on their AD or their coaches. My point is you have some anonymous coward come onto a website and defame a program ,its players, its coaches and there are no repercussions. How do I know what they posted is BS, because of my dealings with both programs involved and because I actually watched the game film.If the score keepers or coaches are inflating stats or actually have no idea what an assist is than they should be called out on it .If someone posts nonsense that has no basis in fact about a team, coaches , or player than that post should be removed and that poster banned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

There are plenty of teams guilty of this and if you think a 16yr old kid is going to get into with a 50yr old man over what's an assist and what isn't you're delusional. Everyone knows who cares about the stat sheet and who doesn't and neither kids or adults of teams getting beat up really care to get it right and some other teams are happy to go along as long as your'e ok with their stats

While I agree with you there are a couple if issues with what you have posted other than knowing what your point actually is. If teams have a kid, who doesn't care, doing the book than that is on their AD or their coaches. My point is you have some anonymous coward come onto a website and defame a program ,its players, its coaches and there are no repercussions. How do I know what they posted is BS, because of my dealings with both programs involved and because I actually watched the game film.If the score keepers or coaches are inflating stats or actually have no idea what an assist is than they should be called out on it .If someone posts nonsense that has no basis in fact about a team, coaches , or player than that post should be removed and that poster banned.

The last goal scored in the game was caught on 4 steps taken then a roll dodge on defender taking three steps to a shot. This is from US Lacrosse.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

There are plenty of teams guilty of this and if you think a 16yr old kid is going to get into with a 50yr old man over what's an assist and what isn't you're delusional. Everyone knows who cares about the stat sheet and who doesn't and neither kids or adults of teams getting beat up really care to get it right and some other teams are happy to go along as long as your'e ok with their stats

While I agree with you there are a couple if issues with what you have posted other than knowing what your point actually is. If teams have a kid, who doesn't care, doing the book than that is on their AD or their coaches. My point is you have some anonymous coward come onto a website and defame a program ,its players, its coaches and there are no repercussions. How do I know what they posted is BS, because of my dealings with both programs involved and because I actually watched the game film.If the score keepers or coaches are inflating stats or actually have no idea what an assist is than they should be called out on it .If someone posts nonsense that has no basis in fact about a team, coaches , or player than that post should be removed and that poster banned.

The last goal scored in the game was caught on 4 steps taken then a roll dodge on defender taking three steps to a shot. This is from US Lacrosse.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.

I guess that settles that...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

The last goal scored in the game was caught on 4 steps taken then a roll dodge on defender taking three steps to a shot. This is from US Lacrosse.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal
without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one
assist per goal may be recorded.
The guideline to award an assist includes two parts: there must be a pass made to the
recipient; and the recipient must take a shot. If the passer (potential assister) is able to move the ball
to a teammate (recipient), who has maneuvered for a good or more advantageous position to take a
shot, then the passer can be awarded with an assist. If the shooter, after receiving the ball from her
teammate (passer/potential assister) must outrun or maneuver around any excessive defensive
pressure before shooting, no assist can be awarded. It is not necessary for the shooter to possess
the ball for a specific length of time, nor must the shooter limit the number of steps taken after she
receives the ball for a shot. The only deciding factor, after the recipient receives a pass from her
teammate, is the amount of pressure the recipient (shooter) had to evade to put her into a position for
the shot, if any.

So there is the full definition of an assist. A few things are obvious from your post. To start reading comprehension is not one of your strengths. The fact that your main argument is how many steps a player has taken when in the definition it actually states that number of steps taken is not relevant shows you are really slow. The fact that you made up the number of steps taken when it is not relevant tells me you are desperate.If you think the shooter was under excessive pressure ( defined as more than normal) it just shows again you are just not very educated. The fact that you feel the team should have gotten 6 not 7 assists shows that there is something deeper going on than an assist and that you must be a bitter jealous person.
In the end the definition of an assist does leave some gray area, my opinion on this one is that an assist should have been recorded. I can tell you when my daughter played in college their book keeper was very lenient with both the home team and away teams while other schools not so much.
My main concern is not so much with your ignorance but more in general with people like yourself who hide behind a computer .Your wife and kids know you are a flaccid little man who would never do the right thing and approach people in person when you think something wrong is happening .You obviously know who these coaches are you should approach them and speak your mind.We all know that will never happen.

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

The last goal scored in the game was caught on 4 steps taken then a roll dodge on defender taking three steps to a shot. This is from US Lacrosse.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal
without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one
assist per goal may be recorded.
The guideline to award an assist includes two parts: there must be a pass made to the
recipient; and the recipient must take a shot. If the passer (potential assister) is able to move the ball
to a teammate (recipient), who has maneuvered for a good or more advantageous position to take a
shot, then the passer can be awarded with an assist. If the shooter, after receiving the ball from her
teammate (passer/potential assister) must outrun or maneuver around any excessive defensive
pressure before shooting, no assist can be awarded. It is not necessary for the shooter to possess
the ball for a specific length of time, nor must the shooter limit the number of steps taken after she
receives the ball for a shot. The only deciding factor, after the recipient receives a pass from her
teammate, is the amount of pressure the recipient (shooter) had to evade to put her into a position for
the shot, if any.

So there is the full definition of an assist. A few things are obvious from your post. To start reading comprehension is not one of your strengths. The fact that your main argument is how many steps a player has taken when in the definition it actually states that number of steps taken is not relevant shows you are really slow. The fact that you made up the number of steps taken when it is not relevant tells me you are desperate.If you think the shooter was under excessive pressure ( defined as more than normal) it just shows again you are just not very educated. The fact that you feel the team should have gotten 6 not 7 assists shows that there is something deeper going on than an assist and that you must be a bitter jealous person.
In the end the definition of an assist does leave some gray area, my opinion on this one is that an assist should have been recorded. I can tell you when my daughter played in college their book keeper was very lenient with both the home team and away teams while other schools not so much.
My main concern is not so much with your ignorance but more in general with people like yourself who hide behind a computer .Your wife and kids know you are a flaccid little man who would never do the right thing and approach people in person when you think something wrong is happening .You obviously know who these coaches are you should approach them and speak your mind.We all know that will never happen.

Sorry - More than 4 steps is no assist - its just a pass.

Why 4 steps, because that gives you a more advantageous position

What the heck ever happened to the Dangerous shot. 80% of the shots ive seen this year are all no good.

What about sticks in the sphere?

its not the boys game, there is no contact. which brings me to, am i wrong or is even attempting a pick illegal?

Bend don't break the rules right!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past
.Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

The last goal scored in the game was caught on 4 steps taken then a roll dodge on defender taking three steps to a shot. This is from US Lacrosse.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal
without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one
assist per goal may be recorded.
The guideline to award an assist includes two parts: there must be a pass made to the
recipient; and the recipient must take a shot. If the passer (potential assister) is able to move the ball
to a teammate (recipient), who has maneuvered for a good or more advantageous position to take a
shot, then the passer can be awarded with an assist. If the shooter, after receiving the ball from her
teammate (passer/potential assister) must outrun or maneuver around any excessive defensive
pressure before shooting, no assist can be awarded. It is not necessary for the shooter to possess
the ball for a specific length of time, nor must the shooter limit the number of steps taken after she
receives the ball for a shot. The only deciding factor, after the recipient receives a pass from her
teammate, is the amount of pressure the recipient (shooter) had to evade to put her into a position for
the shot, if any.

So there is the full definition of an assist. A few things are obvious from your post. To start reading comprehension is not one of your strengths. The fact that your main argument is how many steps a player has taken when in the definition it actually states that number of steps taken is not relevant shows you are really slow. The fact that you made up the number of steps taken when it is not relevant tells me you are desperate.If you think the shooter was under excessive pressure ( defined as more than normal) it just shows again you are just not very educated. The fact that you feel the team should have gotten 6 not 7 assists shows that there is something deeper going on than an assist and that you must be a bitter jealous person.
In the end the definition of an assist does leave some gray area, my opinion on this one is that an assist should have been recorded. I can tell you when my daughter played in college their book keeper was very lenient with both the home team and away teams while other schools not so much.
My main concern is not so much with your ignorance but more in general with people like yourself who hide behind a computer .Your wife and kids know you are a flaccid little man who would never do the right thing and approach people in person when you think something wrong is happening .You obviously know who these coaches are you should approach them and speak your mind.We all know that will never happen.

Sorry - More than 4 steps is no assist - its just a pass.

Why 4 steps, because that gives you a more advantageous position

Wow , this could be the most uneducated response I have ever seen . The US lacrosse definition of an assist is posted for you and you clearly have such a lack of education to even be able to comprehend it . I have not seen the goal/assist in person but the number of steps has nothing to do with it . If a goalie clears the ball to a teammate who is at the far restraining line , that player takes let’s say 20 steps and was never under excessive defensive pressure and scores it’s the definition of an assist from the goalie ..Your response is the text book response from someone who has such a low level of education that they are unable to understand basic concepts, sad . Or maybe you are just stirring the pot making me the fool for believing there is that level of idiocy out there. Either way let’s move in from the assist no assist discussion .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past .Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

There are plenty of teams guilty of this and if you think a 16yr old kid is going to get into with a 50yr old man over what's an assist and what isn't you're delusional. Everyone knows who cares about the stat sheet and who doesn't and neither kids or adults of teams getting beat up really care to get it right and some other teams are happy to go along as long as your'e ok with their stats

While I agree with you there are a couple if issues with what you have posted other than knowing what your point actually is. If teams have a kid, who doesn't care, doing the book than that is on their AD or their coaches. My point is you have some anonymous coward come onto a website and defame a program ,its players, its coaches and there are no repercussions. How do I know what they posted is BS, because of my dealings with both programs involved and because I actually watched the game film.If the score keepers or coaches are inflating stats or actually have no idea what an assist is than they should be called out on it .If someone posts nonsense that has no basis in fact about a team, coaches , or player than that post should be removed and that poster banned.

If everybody who "posts nonsense that has no basis in fact" was banned from this site it would be very quiet - kind of like when they try to make everybody register.

Wouldn't a roll dodge to evade defensive pressure take away the assist? Asking for a friend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't a roll dodge to evade defensive pressure take away the assist? Asking for a friend.

Tell your friend Yes... No assist

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't a roll dodge to evade defensive pressure take away the assist? Asking for a friend.

Tell your friend Yes... No assist

No not automatically , if someone catches a pass and rolls to their strong hand to shoot and were not under excessive defensive pressure an assist can be awarded . If a player back door cuts a defender catches a pass and rolls back to avoid a coming slide , shoots out of that roll an assist can be awarded as neither defender was in good defensive position to be considered to apply excessive defensive pressure . Again it is a gray area and its amazing to me that the internet cowards are so ignorant and even more embarrassing that they are too flaccid to speak up to these coaches they think are being shady .Guaranttee the guy posting that is so concerned it’s not an assist has a kid going to some hideous school and is just bitter . Watch a bunch of college games and you will see that it’s sometimes up to the score keepers interpretation much like fouls by a ref , some call it one way some do not . Read the definition and make your own judgement .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books.

Normally I would just ignore someone like yourself but having the film myself I decided to take a look. First off you must be some kind of bitter person to take the time to watch a film and obviously have a game against WI this week its not difficult to figure out what team you are from.
Looking at the film I would assume you are not debating goals scored so it must be the assist thing, by my account Mattituck goals 3,4,7,8,9,10 were all on assists, goals 1,2,5 were not. Which one of those are you contesting and what is your definition of an assist. I do the score book for our team and have done so against Mattituck in the past
.Each time they have had an adult doing the book as opposed to many teams that do not and seemed conscientious in doing so.
Whats amazing is there is a film showing that their stats are correct yet you are so ignorant as to call them out on it when it makes it so easy to make you look foolish.

The last goal scored in the game was caught on 4 steps taken then a roll dodge on defender taking three steps to a shot. This is from US Lacrosse.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal
without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one
assist per goal may be recorded.
The guideline to award an assist includes two parts: there must be a pass made to the
recipient; and the recipient must take a shot. If the passer (potential assister) is able to move the ball
to a teammate (recipient), who has maneuvered for a good or more advantageous position to take a
shot, then the passer can be awarded with an assist. If the shooter, after receiving the ball from her
teammate (passer/potential assister) must outrun or maneuver around any excessive defensive
pressure before shooting, no assist can be awarded. It is not necessary for the shooter to possess
the ball for a specific length of time, nor must the shooter limit the number of steps taken after she
receives the ball for a shot. The only deciding factor, after the recipient receives a pass from her
teammate, is the amount of pressure the recipient (shooter) had to evade to put her into a position for
the shot, if any.

So there is the full definition of an assist. A few things are obvious from your post. To start reading comprehension is not one of your strengths. The fact that your main argument is how many steps a player has taken when in the definition it actually states that number of steps taken is not relevant shows you are really slow. The fact that you made up the number of steps taken when it is not relevant tells me you are desperate.If you think the shooter was under excessive pressure ( defined as more than normal) it just shows again you are just not very educated. The fact that you feel the team should have gotten 6 not 7 assists shows that there is something deeper going on than an assist and that you must be a bitter jealous person.
In the end the definition of an assist does leave some gray area, my opinion on this one is that an assist should have been recorded. I can tell you when my daughter played in college their book keeper was very lenient with both the home team and away teams while other schools not so much.
My main concern is not so much with your ignorance but more in general with people like yourself who hide behind a computer .Your wife and kids know you are a flaccid little man who would never do the right thing and approach people in person when you think something wrong is happening .You obviously know who these coaches are you should approach them and speak your mind.We all know that will never happen.

Sorry - More than 4 steps is no assist - its just a pass.

Why 4 steps, because that gives you a more advantageous position

Wow , this could be the most uneducated response I have ever seen . The US lacrosse definition of an assist is posted for you and you clearly have such a lack of education to even be able to comprehend it . I have not seen the goal/assist in person but the number of steps has nothing to do with it . If a goalie clears the ball to a teammate who is at the far restraining line , that player takes let’s say 20 steps and was never under excessive defensive pressure and scores it’s the definition of an assist from the goalie ..Your response is the text book response from someone who has such a low level of education that they are unable to understand basic concepts, sad . Or maybe you are just stirring the pot making me the fool for believing there is that level of idiocy out there. Either way let’s move in from the assist no assist discussion .

Thou doth protest too much - guilty conscience?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I watched the Matt @ WI scout tape last night. The Matt. coach is cooking the books

The last goal scored in the game was caught on 4 steps taken then a roll dodge on defender taking three steps to a shot. This is from US Lacrosse.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.

3. assist: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal
without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one
assist per goal may be recorded.
The guideline to award an assist includes two parts: there must be a pass made to the
recipient; and the recipient must take a shot. If the passer (potential assister) is able to move the ball
to a teammate (recipient), who has maneuvered for a good or more advantageous position to take a
shot, then the passer can be awarded with an assist. If the shooter, after receiving the ball from her
teammate (passer/potential assister) must outrun or maneuver around any excessive defensive
pressure before shooting, no assist can be awarded. It is not necessary for the shooter to possess
the ball for a specific length of time, nor must the shooter limit the number of steps taken after she
receives the ball for a shot. The only deciding factor, after the recipient receives a pass from her
teammate, is the amount of pressure the recipient (shooter) had to evade to put her into a position for
the shot, if any.

So there is the full definition of an assist. A few things are obvious from your post. To start reading comprehension is not one of your strengths. The fact that your main argument is how many steps a player has taken when in the definition it actually states that number of steps taken is not relevant shows you are really slow. The fact that you made up the number of steps taken when it is not relevant tells me you are desperate.If you think the shooter was under excessive pressure ( defined as more than normal) it just shows again you are just not very educated. The fact that you feel the team should have gotten 6 not 7 assists shows that there is something deeper going on than an assist and that you must be a bitter jealous person.
In the end the definition of an assist does leave some gray area, my opinion on this one is that an assist should have been recorded. I can tell you when my daughter played in college their book keeper was very lenient with both the home team and away teams while other schools not so much.
My main concern is not so much with your ignorance but more in general with people like yourself who hide behind a computer .Your wife and kids know you are a flaccid little man who would never do the right thing and approach people in person when you think something wrong is happening .You obviously know who these coaches are you should approach them and speak your mind.We all know that will never happen.

Sorry - More than 4 steps is no assist - its just a pass.

Why 4 steps, because that gives you a more advantageous position

Wow , this could be the most uneducated response I have ever seen . The US lacrosse definition of an assist is posted for you and you clearly have such a lack of education to even be able to comprehend it . I have not seen the goal/assist in person but the number of steps has nothing to do with it . If a goalie clears the ball to a teammate who is at the far restraining line , that player takes let’s say 20 steps and was never under excessive defensive pressure and scores it’s the definition of an assist from the goalie ..Your response is the text book response from someone who has such a low level of education that they are unable to understand basic concepts, sad . Or maybe you are just stirring the pot making me the fool for believing there is that level of idiocy out there. Either way let’s move in from the assist no assist discussion .

Thou doth protest too much - guilty conscience?

I have been a score keeper for some time and find it amazing that people do at times complain but dont take the time to educate themselves prior to complaining ,same thing happens in bball. I also take issue when anonymous posters come onto these sites to bash coaches, programs and worst of all players . Its small minded and petty and seems to me that the bashers would not do so if it was done to their kids but most likely their kids have never been good enough to have some creepy adults go after them. My conscience is fine because I try to do things the right way not be some anonymous coward. That said this is the last i will address this issue as you seem unhealthily obsessed ,yet I suspect you will still be too much of a coward to actually speak up in person.

Nice win for West Islip over Westhampton, even their newest resident/player couldn't help WH win - how does WH find all these new players every year or mid-year in this case?

Great game between Riverhead an SE today, but you gotta wonder how a girl can get away with having her goggles fall off her face four times at the draw??? Give me a break, should be a delay of game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Because it makes your daughter look on paper way better than she actually is. Too bad she doesn’t show up when it counts!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Because it makes your daughter look on paper way better than she actually is. Too bad she doesn’t show up when it counts!

HS stats are not an indicator of a players ability. How they do if they play on a top club team when they compete against other top clubs will tell you what type of player the kid is. If you want to know where your kid stands just look at the caliber of schools making offers ( I am talking about actual offers). If the offers are coming from top 10 programs good bet she is legit. If the offers are only coming from teams that consistently fall outside the top 20 the player is probably not high end. HS competition is not very competitive.

Mattituck coach definitely cooks the books! Guy is an stunad, gives assists to his players who help opponents up after they foul them. Also anytime a defender makes a good pass he counts as assist. I’ve seen him doing the book while coaching, what a hammerhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Because it makes your daughter look on paper way better than she actually is. Too bad she doesn’t show up when it counts!

But why do YOU care? Why is this so important to YOU?

Really disappointed at the demeanor of the parents during the Suffolk HS games. Way too many behind the back goals when teams are up by 5+, or Goalies coming out looking for assists and goals. Also, do the refs need to be screamed at every time someone with a stick comes near your team? It's usually the crowds of those teams at the top of the standings that exhibit the worst behavior. Sportsmanship and respect for your opponent is lost the closer you get to the top of Suffolk Div I.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Because it makes your daughter look on paper way better than she actually is. Too bad she doesn’t show up when it counts!

But why do YOU care? Why is this so important to YOU?

Because I don’t like cheaters like you and your daughter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Because it makes your daughter look on paper way better than she actually is. Too bad she doesn’t show up when it counts!

But why do YOU care? Why is this so important to YOU?

Because I don’t like cheaters like you and your daughter

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Because it makes your daughter look on paper way better than she actually is. Too bad she doesn’t show up when it counts!

But why do YOU care? Why is this so important to YOU?

Because I don’t like cheaters like you and your daughter

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

Big Question ? Should I send my daughter to a college where she won't play the first or second year ?
Her college career will only be four years and the time commitment is huge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Question ? Should I send my daughter to a college where she won't play the first or second year ?
Her college career will only be four years and the time commitment is huge.

If it is the right fit for everything else I say yes. There is no guarantee of playing time anywhere. Use lacrosse to get her into the best school possible where everything outside of lacrosse is a great fit.

Correct! This is not about early recruiting, that is over. This is about the coaches wanting 2 extra month's of the player's money for camp by blocking the June 15th date. The Proposals do NOT reintroduce early recruiting, that was a false impression propagandized by the coaches

Having gone through this with 2 division 1 boys, and now my daughter, please allow me to clarify.
Kimel sends thousands of personalized e-mails to girls' private email addresses, addressed to the girls by first name, leading them on that they are wanted at her recruiting camp. Kimel prays upon the uninformed who don't realize it's a money grab. Kimel and others who are trying to block the June 15th proposal should be embarrassed of their actions. The 2 months they are pushing for has nothing to do with kids' maturation process. The US lacrosse article must have accidentally left this bit of information out when quoting her.

Princeton is just as bad as Kimel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Question ? Should I send my daughter to a college where she won't play the first or second year ?
Her college career will only be four years and the time commitment is huge.

Might just be your choice of words, but the first thing I'd say is the question is whether your daughter should choose to go to that school, not whether you should send her there. It has to be her choice - is she going there for the education or the lacrosse? If she is able to play in college, she is most likely used to being a starter and regular player. Is she willing to put in the time and commitment to then be a cheerleader during games? Is she likely to play in later years due to girls in her position graduating? Will she still be happy if she doesn't play in years 3 or 4? What is important to her?

Bottom line - make sure all the non-lacrosse stuff is the right fit. Would she be happy there and get a good education in the field she is interested in if lacrosse went away (for whatever reason)?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correct! This is not about early recruiting, that is over. This is about the coaches wanting 2 extra month's of the player's money for camp by blocking the June 15th date. The Proposals do NOT reintroduce early recruiting, that was a false impression propagandized by the coaches

Having gone through this with 2 division 1 boys, and now my daughter, please allow me to clarify.
Kimel sends thousands of personalized e-mails to girls' private email addresses, addressed to the girls by first name, leading them on that they are wanted at her recruiting camp. Kimel prays upon the uninformed who don't realize it's a money grab. Kimel and others who are trying to block the June 15th proposal should be embarrassed of their actions. The 2 months they are pushing for has nothing to do with kids' maturation process. The US lacrosse article must have accidentally left this bit of information out when quoting her.

Princeton is just as bad as Kimel.

Who doesn't realize that camps make money for the coaches? Camps also provide learning and competition for the players and they do in fact provide an opportunity for players to get in front of college coaches. I would not say "Kimel prays upon the uninformed who don't realize it's a money grab". I would say that there are a lot of delusional parents who believe that their child is better than she is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cooking books is widespread. A shame adults need to stoop to smoke and mirror tactics.

i think its far worse when a coach leaves a kid in against a far inferior team to rack up 10-11 points in a blowout game how about play your bench. can't wait for the county dinner to hear how great little suzy was against a 1-6 team

Why do you care?

Because it makes your daughter look on paper way better than she actually is. Too bad she doesn’t show up when it counts!

But why do YOU care? Why is this so important to YOU?

Your daughter is fine, so you come on BOTC and get hysterical about all the unfair stats. Sounds so very truthful. Maybe you should ask yourself why your daughter hides in the closet when you get home dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your daughter is fine, so you come on BOTC and get hysterical about all the unfair stats. Sounds so very truthful. Maybe you should ask yourself why your daughter hides in the closet when you get home dad.

1. Don't always assume a poster is a dad.
2. Since you are all posting anonymously, it seems shortsighted at best to assume that you are responding to the correct poster, or that there are not many posters chiming in. We have no way of knowing who is who.
3. As the saying goes, we are all just Meanyholes on the internet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your daughter is fine, so you come on BOTC and get hysterical about all the unfair stats. Sounds so very truthful. Maybe you should ask yourself why your daughter hides in the closet when you get home dad.

1. Don't always assume a poster is a dad.
2. Since you are all posting anonymously, it seems shortsighted at best to assume that you are responding to the correct poster, or that there are not many posters chiming in. We have no way of knowing who is who.
3. As the saying goes, we are all just Meanyholes on the internet.

Valid point my friend, although I stand by my original assumption that said poster is a dad, and that he is also a complete donk.

Congratulations to all of the players selected named Under Armour All-Americans in Wave Two especially to the Long Island players. Congrats, great job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your daughter is fine, so you come on BOTC and get hysterical about all the unfair stats. Sounds so very truthful. Maybe you should ask yourself why your daughter hides in the closet when you get home dad.

1. Don't always assume a poster is a dad.
2. Since you are all posting anonymously, it seems shortsighted at best to assume that you are responding to the correct poster, or that there are not many posters chiming in. We have no way of knowing who is who.
3. As the saying goes, we are all just Meanyholes on the internet.

Valid point my friend, although I stand by my original assumption that said poster is a dad, and that he is also a complete donk.

Stat padder will ride bench and probably quit team in college when the smoke and mirrors can't help anymore! Seen this rodeo a few times!

Was the Mt Sinai score really true? 8-0?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was the Mt Sinai score really true? 8-0?

i was in total shock when i saw that myself!! I don't think i have ever seen a top 10 team get shut out. Anyone at the game that can confirm this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was the Mt Sinai score really true? 8-0?

i was in total shock when i saw that myself!! I don't think i have ever seen a top 10 team get shut out. Anyone at the game that can confirm this

Only 4 shots on goal (BBP saves) according to Newsday.

That score is accurate! BBP played great defense. It looked like Bert packed it in at halftime when it was 5-0 Didn't want to show too much more after that as they will most likely face each other in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was the Mt Sinai score really true? 8-0?

i was in total shock when i saw that myself!! I don't think i have ever seen a top 10 team get shut out. Anyone at the game that can confirm this

Only 4 shots on goal (BBP saves) according to Newsday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was the Mt Sinai score really true? 8-0?

i was in total shock when i saw that myself!! I don't think i have ever seen a top 10 team get shut out. Anyone at the game that can confirm this

Only 4 shots on goal (BBP saves) according to Newsday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mattituck coach definitely cooks the books! Guy is an stunad, gives assists to his players who help opponents up after they foul them. Also anytime a defender makes a good pass he counts as assist. I’ve seen him doing the book while coaching, what a hammerhead.

Why do you come on this site and make nonsense up. You were obviously drunk when you posted this as it makes no sense. We play Mattituck every year and I know the coach well enough to know that he never keeps the book as he can be fairly animated on the sideline. Again how does it feel to be such a coward that you people come onto a site and anonymously attack players ,coaches yet are too frightened to speak up to them in person. Just once it would be great if just one of the cowards on this board would say something in person to the coach of the "ballhog" player, the parent of the player that the coward feels is not worthy of their accolades, etc. If you think your kids and wife don't know what a coward you are you are completely clueless. Time to step up and be a man.

[/quote]

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

[/quote]

Let me guess your kid is some butterball who scores a few goals because daddy demands it and is going to "play" at some hideous academic low level D1 school because daddy demanded she is a legit D1 player. Stat leader on her team tells us all we need to know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

[/quote]

Let me guess your kid is some butterball who scores a few goals because daddy demands it and is going to "play" at some hideous academic low level D1 school because daddy demanded she is a legit D1 player. Stat leader on her team tells us all we need to know.

[/quote]

You should try not to guess so much, your jealousy is showing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

Let me guess your kid is some butterball who scores a few goals because daddy demands it and is going to "play" at some hideous academic low level D1 school because daddy demanded she is a legit D1 player. Stat leader on her team tells us all we need to know.

[/quote]

You should try not to guess so much, your jealousy is showing.

[/quote]

Nobody who actually has a kid that is a good player says “stat leader on her team “ . Now go get a big box of jelly donuts your kid will most likely force a goal in today because daddy told her to . How could anyone be jeolous of you or your kid as no one knows who you are while you come into this site like a coward to try and knock specific coaches and players who you are too afraid to approach with your concerns . I can hear the other parents on your side shouting “ it’s donut time “ when betterball puts one in the back of the net .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

Let me guess your kid is some butterball who scores a few goals because daddy demands it and is going to "play" at some hideous academic low level D1 school because daddy demanded she is a legit D1 player. Stat leader on her team tells us all we need to know.

You should try not to guess so much, your jealousy is showing.

[/quote]

Nobody who actually has a kid that is a good player says “stat leader on her team “ . Now go get a big box of jelly donuts your kid will most likely force a goal in today because daddy told her to . How could anyone be jeolous of you or your kid as no one knows who you are while you come into this site like a coward to try and knock specific coaches and players who you are too afraid to approach with your concerns . I can hear the other parents on your side shouting “ it’s donut time “ when betterball puts one in the back of the net .[/quote]

Brutal yet truthful response to the man with the closet hiding daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

Let me guess your kid is some butterball who scores a few goals because daddy demands it and is going to "play" at some hideous academic low level D1 school because daddy demanded she is a legit D1 player. Stat leader on her team tells us all we need to know.

You should try not to guess so much, your jealousy is showing.

[/quote]

Nobody who actually has a kid that is a good player says “stat leader on her team “ . Now go get a big box of jelly donuts your kid will most likely force a goal in today because daddy told her to . How could anyone be jeolous of you or your kid as no one knows who you are while you come into this site like a coward to try and knock specific coaches and players who you are too afraid to approach with your concerns . I can hear the other parents on your side shouting “ it’s donut time “ when betterball puts one in the back of the net .[/quote]

Says the bench warmers dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

Let me guess your kid is some butterball who scores a few goals because daddy demands it and is going to "play" at some hideous academic low level D1 school because daddy demanded she is a legit D1 player. Stat leader on her team tells us all we need to know.

You should try not to guess so much, your jealousy is showing.

Nobody who actually has a kid that is a good player says “stat leader on her team “ . Now go get a big box of jelly donuts your kid will most likely force a goal in today because daddy told her to . How could anyone be jeolous of you or your kid as no one knows who you are while you come into this site like a coward to try and knock specific coaches and players who you are too afraid to approach with your concerns . I can hear the other parents on your side shouting “ it’s donut time “ when betterball puts one in the back of the net .[/quote]

Says the bench warmers dad
[/quote]

So...,.not a stat padder?

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Northport 8-1-0 156.570
Middle Country 7-1-0 146.660
Riverhead 8-1-0 144.060
Ward Melville 7-1-0 138.660
Smithtown East 5-2-0 126.160
Smithtown West 5-3-0 122.760
Sachem North 5-3-0 116.710
Connetquot 5-3-0 111.380
Commack HS 4-5-0 110.330
Bay Shore 5-3-0 109.080

outside looking in
Huntington 3-4-0 107.760

Class B Playoffs if they started today...

Eastport/SManor 8-0-0 157.360
West Babylon 6-2-0 133.880
West Islip 6-3-0 130.330
Hauppauge 5-2-0 110.250
East Islip 3-5-0 106.380
Comsewogue 4-5-0 106.320

Outside looking in....
Harborfields 3-5-0 102.630

Class C Playoffs if they started today...

Mt. Sinai 7-1-0 149.860
Bayport-Blue Pt 7-1-0 148.390
Westhampton 5-3-0 125.550
Shoreham WR 5-4-0 122.550
Sayville 6-2-0 117.120

Outside looking in.....
Rocky Point 4-5-0 107.820

Class D playoffs if they started today....

Mattituck/Shld 5-3-0 127.000
Babylon 5-2-0 110.380
Port Jefferson 2-5-0 82.130

Outside looking in...
Center Moriches 1-6-0 70.700

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that being said, my daughter doesn’t play. My niece does, she’s a defender. Sounds like your daughter isn’t as good as you need her to be. You have a problem, get help lost.

My daughter is just fine, in fact a stat leader on her team. And hers are real stats. Sure your niece is a defender, and you’re just trolling here, hammerhead

Let me guess your kid is some butterball who scores a few goals because daddy demands it and is going to "play" at some hideous academic low level D1 school because daddy demanded she is a legit D1 player. Stat leader on her team tells us all we need to know.

You should try not to guess so much, your jealousy is showing.

Nobody who actually has a kid that is a good player says “stat leader on her team “ . Now go get a big box of jelly donuts your kid will most likely force a goal in today because daddy told her to . How could anyone be jeolous of you or your kid as no one knows who you are while you come into this site like a coward to try and knock specific coaches and players who you are too afraid to approach with your concerns . I can hear the other parents on your side shouting “ it’s donut time “ when betterball puts one in the back of the net .[/quote]

Says the bench warmers dad
[/quote]

Signed The Coward sire of Butterball ,”it’s donut time “ .

it’s donut time “ . [/quote]

Will be for you and your daughter when she doesn’t get invited to the County dinner, while mine is receiving her accolades for being a great player and teammate. Sad for you that you’re so bitter. Maybe go have a catch with your daughter and stop worrying about mine. Like I said, we’re more that fine over here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it’s donut time “ .

Will be for you and your daughter when she doesn’t get invited to the County dinner, while mine is receiving her accolades for being a great player and teammate. Sad for you that you’re so bitter. Maybe go have a catch with your daughter and stop worrying about mine. Like I said, we’re more that fine over here [/quote]

Yet you are the coward who is so bitter and that you come onto this site to knock known players and coaches while no one knows who you or your little butterball are . You do realize that your posts about butterball being the stat leader in her team and now acting like being invited to the County dinner is some major deal exposes you for the sad bitter person you are . Maybe if butterball gets her all county award you hit carvel and spring for the fudgie the whale cake . Stop bashing players , coaches , programs and maybe spend your time dealing with your own issues which have more than likely caused your kids love hate relationship w food .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it’s donut time “ .

Will be for you and your daughter when she doesn’t get invited to the County dinner, while mine is receiving her accolades for being a great player and teammate. Sad for you that you’re so bitter. Maybe go have a catch with your daughter and stop worrying about mine. Like I said, we’re more that fine over here

Yet you are the coward who is so bitter and that you come onto this site to knock known players and coaches while no one knows who you or your little butterball are . You do realize that your posts about butterball being the stat leader in her team and now acting like being invited to the County dinner is some major deal exposes you for the sad bitter person you are . Maybe if butterball gets her all county award you hit carvel and spring for the fudgie the whale cake . Stop bashing players , coaches , programs and maybe spend your time dealing with your own issues which have more than likely caused your kids love hate relationship w food .[/quote]

Bizarre angry man, so sorry your daughter stinks. Not exactly sure what you're talking about, but my daughter could be a Bikini model if she wanted to. Hahaha. Guess I'm blessed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it’s donut time “ .

Will be for you and your daughter when she doesn’t get invited to the County dinner, while mine is receiving her accolades for being a great player and teammate. Sad for you that you’re so bitter. Maybe go have a catch with your daughter and stop worrying about mine. Like I said, we’re more that fine over here

Yet you are the coward who is so bitter and that you come onto this site to knock known players and coaches while no one knows who you or your little butterball are . You do realize that your posts about butterball being the stat leader in her team and now acting like being invited to the County dinner is some major deal exposes you for the sad bitter person you are . Maybe if butterball gets her all county award you hit carvel and spring for the fudgie the whale cake . Stop bashing players , coaches , programs and maybe spend your time dealing with your own issues which have more than likely caused your kids love hate relationship w food .

Bizarre angry man, so sorry your daughter stinks. Not exactly sure what you're talking about, but my daughter could be a Bikini model if she wanted to. Hahaha. Guess I'm blessed![/quote]

Yes we have all seen Ashley Graham , same body type ,. The point is you come on this site and knock other players, coaches , programs like a coward . Again saying the bikini model thing about your own daughter is very revealing , so now you are not just the coward , insecure braggart , you are also creepy . Keep bashing other kids,etc you have been abused enough .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it’s donut time “ .

Will be for you and your daughter when she doesn’t get invited to the County dinner, while mine is receiving her accolades for being a great player and teammate. Sad for you that you’re so bitter. Maybe go have a catch with your daughter and stop worrying about mine. Like I said, we’re more that fine over here

Yet you are the coward who is so bitter and that you come onto this site to knock known players and coaches while no one knows who you or your little butterball are . You do realize that your posts about butterball being the stat leader in her team and now acting like being invited to the County dinner is some major deal exposes you for the sad bitter person you are . Maybe if butterball gets her all county award you hit carvel and spring for the fudgie the whale cake . Stop bashing players , coaches , programs and maybe spend your time dealing with your own issues which have more than likely caused your kids love hate relationship w food .

Bizarre angry man, so sorry your daughter stinks. Not exactly sure what you're talking about, but my daughter could be a Bikini model if she wanted to. Hahaha. Guess I'm blessed!

Yes we have all seen Ashley Graham , same body type ,. The point is you come on this site and knock other players, coaches , programs like a coward . Again saying the bikini model thing about your own daughter is very revealing , so now you are not just the coward , insecure braggart , you are also creepy . Keep bashing other kids,etc you have been abused enough .[/quote]

Creepy because my daughter is beautiful, athletic and top of her class academically? I'll take it. I'm extremely proud of her and all the accomplishments she currently made, and will make. The future is bright! You can keep coming at me, but I have faith in my daughter and her teammates. They have one of the best records on the Island, and we are extremely proud! Maybe you need a donut?

It’s creepy because you should not be telling anyone how good your daughter looks in a bikini and you especially should not be posting that . Reading your last post I finally get why you keep putting yourself in an untenable position and at least you finally mention your daughters team but be careful because if the trolls on this site figure out what team and who your kid is they will knock her down as you have done with others .Originally you were acting the coward anonymously bashing others who you actually identified and it’s obvious you just don’t get how disgusting that is .Your proud of your daughters accomplishments and you should be but when you come into this site and bash others especially when you identify them without any idea who they really are it’s just so pathetic .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s creepy because you should not be telling anyone how good your daughter looks in a bikini and you especially should not be posting that . Reading your last post I finally get why you keep putting yourself in an untenable position and at least you finally mention your daughters team but be careful because if the trolls on this site figure out what team and who your kid is they will knock her down as you have done with others .Originally you were acting the coward anonymously bashing others who you actually identified and it’s obvious you just don’t get how disgusting that is .Your proud of your daughters accomplishments and you should be but when you come into this site and bash others especially when you identify them without any idea who they really are it’s just so pathetic .

Wow, you really have a knack of twisting things. It was you, the troll, who attempted to put me and my daughter down (hypocrite) you tried to call her pudgy and unathletic despite have no idea who she is. I simply pointed out that she is far from that and yes in fact she could me a model, although she prefers being a lacrosse standout, which is the result of years of hard work. I am also well aware that if my daughter does not perform in big games, she will be criticized, and should be. I have no problem with that. It’s called life, you learn and get better from it. But You need serious help, very sad for you and your toxic jealousy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s creepy because you should not be telling anyone how good your daughter looks in a bikini and you especially should not be posting that . Reading your last post I finally get why you keep putting yourself in an untenable position and at least you finally mention your daughters team but be careful because if the trolls on this site figure out what team and who your kid is they will knock her down as you have done with others .Originally you were acting the coward anonymously bashing others who you actually identified and it’s obvious you just don’t get how disgusting that is .Your proud of your daughters accomplishments and you should be but when you come into this site and bash others especially when you identify them without any idea who they really are it’s just so pathetic .

Wow, you really have a knack of twisting things. It was you, the troll, who attempted to put me and my daughter down (hypocrite) you tried to call her pudgy and unathletic despite have no idea who she is. I simply pointed out that she is far from that and yes in fact she could me a model, although she prefers being a lacrosse standout, which is the result of years of hard work. I am also well aware that if my daughter does not perform in big games, she will be criticized, and should be. I have no problem with that. It’s called life, you learn and get better from it. But You need serious help, very sad for you and your toxic jealousy

Can you two please go away...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That score is accurate! BBP played great defense. It looked like Bert packed it in at halftime when it was 5-0 Didn't want to show too much more after that as they will most likely face each other in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was the Mt Sinai score really true? 8-0?

i was in total shock when i saw that myself!! I don't think i have ever seen a top 10 team get shut out. Anyone at the game that can confirm this

Only 4 shots on goal (BBP saves) according to Newsday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was the Mt Sinai score really true? 8-0?

i was in total shock when i saw that myself!! I don't think i have ever seen a top 10 team get shut out. Anyone at the game that can confirm this

Only 4 shots on goal (BBP saves) according to Newsday.

I guess Bert didn't want to show East Islip too much either! The team is all hype and really just isn't that good. Again, it goes to show what non-sense these national polls really are, I think they were number 3 or 4 in the country on Inside Lacrosse...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s creepy because you should not be telling anyone how good your daughter looks in a bikini and you especially should not be posting that . Reading your last post I finally get why you keep putting yourself in an untenable position and at least you finally mention your daughters team but be careful because if the trolls on this site figure out what team and who your kid is they will knock her down as you have done with others .Originally you were acting the coward anonymously bashing others who you actually identified and it’s obvious you just don’t get how disgusting that is .Your proud of your daughters accomplishments and you should be but when you come into this site and bash others especially when you identify them without any idea who they really are it’s just so pathetic .

Wow, you really have a knack of twisting things. It was you, the troll, who attempted to put me and my daughter down (hypocrite) you tried to call her pudgy and unathletic despite have no idea who she is. I simply pointed out that she is far from that and yes in fact she could me a model, although she prefers being a lacrosse standout, which is the result of years of hard work. I am also well aware that if my daughter does not perform in big games, she will be criticized, and should be. I have no problem with that. It’s called life, you learn and get better from it. But You need serious help, very sad for you and your toxic jealousy

I hope that you are also aware that nobody cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Northport 8-1-0 156.570
Middle Country 7-1-0 146.660
Riverhead 8-1-0 144.060
Ward Melville 7-1-0 138.660
Smithtown East 5-2-0 126.160
Smithtown West 5-3-0 122.760
Sachem North 5-3-0 116.710
Connetquot 5-3-0 111.380
Commack HS 4-5-0 110.330
Bay Shore 5-3-0 109.080

outside looking in
Huntington 3-4-0 107.760

Looks like riverhead got a big dose of reality today, thought they were competing for state championship this year?

Smithtown East crashed back to Earth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East crashed back to Earth

Don’t count us out yet, as I recall, we beat the team that blew you out the other day. So easy there! See you in the playoffs!

[quote=Anonymous]Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

1-Northport 9-1-0 165.060
2-Middle Country 8-1-0 153.370
3-Ward Melville 8-1-0 145.920
4-Riverhead 8-2-0 143.560
5-Smithtown East 6-3-0 130.220
6-Smithtown West 5-4-0 121.990
7-Sachem North 6-3-0 118.970
8-Connetquot 5-3-0 112.470
9-Bay Shore 5-3-0 110.450
10-Commack HS 5-5-0 110.040
11-Huntington 4-5-0 107.220

Outside looking in......

Patchogue-Medford 5-5-0 101.370

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

1-Northport 9-1-0 165.060
2-Middle Country 8-1-0 153.370
3-Ward Melville 8-1-0 145.920
4-Riverhead 8-2-0 143.560
5-Smithtown East 6-3-0 130.220
6-Smithtown West 5-4-0 121.990
7-Sachem North 6-3-0 118.970
8-Connetquot 5-3-0 112.470
9-Bay Shore 5-3-0 110.450
10-Commack HS 5-5-0 110.040
11-Huntington 4-5-0 107.220

Outside looking in......

Patchogue-Medford 5-5-0 101.370

County Finals Northport Vs Middle Country with NP winning it.

[quote=Anonymous]Class B Playoffs if they started today.

1-Eastport/SManor 9-0-0 160.970
2-West Babylon 7-2-0 138.990
3-West Islip 7-3-0 138.360
4-Hauppauge 6-2-0 111.840
5-Harborfields 4-5-0 110.440
6-Comsewogue 4-5-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....

East Islip 3-6-0 105.300

[quote=Anonymous]Class C Playoffs if they started today..

1-Mt. Sinai 8-1-0 152.530
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 7-1-0 147.330
3-Westhampton 6-3-0 131.110
4-Shoreham WR 5-5-0 120.250
5-Sayville 6-3-0 113.160

outside looking in.....
6-Rocky Point 4-6-0 108.030

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class D playoffs if they started today....

Mattituck/Shld 5-3-0 127.000
Babylon 5-2-0 110.380
Port Jefferson 2-5-0 82.130

Outside looking in...
Center Moriches 1-6-0 70.700

1-Mattituck/Shld 6-3-0 132.810
2-Babylon 5-3-0 103.610
3-Port Jefferson 2-6-0 74.060

Outside looking in.....
Center Moriches 1-7-0 67.530

Northport vs Wilton, should be a good game. Any predictions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

1-Northport 9-1-0 165.060
2-Middle Country 8-1-0 153.370
3-Ward Melville 8-1-0 145.920
4-Riverhead 8-2-0 143.560
5-Smithtown East 6-3-0 130.220
6-Smithtown West 5-4-0 121.990
7-Sachem North 6-3-0 118.970
8-Connetquot 5-3-0 112.470
9-Bay Shore 5-3-0 110.450
10-Commack HS 5-5-0 110.040
11-Huntington 4-5-0 107.220

Outside looking in......

Patchogue-Medford 5-5-0 101.370

A little bit of movement this week.

1-Northport 10-1-0 167.960
2-Middle Country 9-1-0 156.290
3-Ward Melville 9-1-0 152.870
4-Riverhead 8-2-0 144.910
5-Smithtown West 6-4-0 129.090
6-Smithtown East 6-4-0 127.910
7-Bay Shore 6-3-0 114.330
8-Connetquot 5-4-0 112.020
9-Sachem North 6-4-0 111.930
10-Commack HS 5-5-0 111.250
11-Huntington 5-5-0 107.280

Outside looking in,,,,
Sachem East 4-6-0 104.640

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Class B Playoffs if they started today.

1-Eastport/SManor 9-0-0 160.970
2-West Babylon 7-2-0 138.990
3-West Islip 7-3-0 138.360
4-Hauppauge 6-2-0 111.840
5-Harborfields 4-5-0 110.440
6-Comsewogue 4-5-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....

East Islip 3-6-0 105.300

Can Hauppauge hold on?

1-Eastport/SManor 9-1-0 158.550
2-West Babylon 8-2-0 146.550
3-West Islip 7-3-0 137.330
4-Harborfields 5-5-0116.220
5-Comsewogue 4-5-0 107.210
6-Hauppauge 6-3-0 107.200

Outside looking in...….
East Islip 3-6-0 103.990

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Class C Playoffs if they started today..

1-Mt. Sinai 8-1-0 152.530
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 7-1-0 147.330
3-Westhampton 6-3-0 131.110
4-Shoreham WR 5-5-0 120.250
5-Sayville 6-3-0 113.160

outside looking in.....
6-Rocky Point 4-6-0 108.030

Can RP make a push?

1-Mt. Sinai 9-1-0 161.550
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 7-2-0 142.670
3-Westhampton 7-3-0 137.670
4-Sayville 7-3-0 120.080
5-Shoreham WR 5-5-0 117.670

Outside looking in.....
Rocky Point 4-6-0 106.450

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Class D playoffs if they started today....

Mattituck/Shld 5-3-0 127.000
Babylon 5-2-0 110.380
Port Jefferson 2-5-0 82.130

Outside looking in...
Center Moriches 1-6-0 70.700

1-Mattituck/Shld 6-3-0 132.810
2-Babylon 5-3-0 103.610
3-Port Jefferson 2-6-0 74.060

Outside looking in.....
Center Moriches 1-7-0 67.530

Lock this one up no changes.

Mattituck/Shld 6-4-0 126.450
Babylon 5-4-0 99.870
Port Jefferson 3-7-0 70.310

Outside looking in.....
Center Moriches 1-8-0 59.200

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

[quote=Anonymous]How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

Dont be a hater just cause your soph didn't make the list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

They have some kids correct, some spots are just baffling. I think they are just trying to piece together a list and are too new at doing it at this point and are just taking the word of some ill advised people. If they want to know who is who on the sophomore landscape they should comb back through all the Under Armour, Schoolgirls, select teams etc rosters. Not perfect, but at least there was a process to choosing girls through try outs etc... then Inside lacrosse has the top girls already highlighted and figured out too. Think they were just in a rebels to get a list out, eventually they will go through due diligence and correct it. Maybe not? Not being mean, my daughter is on list, that’s nice, but seeing some of the names on there completely destroys the credibility of the list. I know many deserving girls and I feel bad for them because some of these choices are a million miles off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

They have some kids correct, some spots are just baffling. I think they are just trying to piece together a list and are too new at doing it at this point and are just taking the word of some ill advised people. If they want to know who is who on the sophomore landscape they should comb back through all the Under Armour, Schoolgirls, select teams etc rosters. Not perfect, but at least there was a process to choosing girls through try outs etc... then Inside lacrosse has the top girls already highlighted and figured out too. Think they were just in a rebels to get a list out, eventually they will go through due diligence and correct it. Maybe not? Not being mean, my daughter is on list, that’s nice, but seeing some of the names on there completely destroys the credibility of the list. I know many deserving girls and I feel bad for them because some of these choices are a million miles off.

Don’t feel bad for them. Nobody cares about FLG. They’re not credible. Even worse on they boys side. They should stick to running their awful club program who can’t even compete with B teams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

They have some kids correct, some spots are just baffling. I think they are just trying to piece together a list and are too new at doing it at this point and are just taking the word of some ill advised people. If they want to know who is who on the sophomore landscape they should comb back through all the Under Armour, Schoolgirls, select teams etc rosters. Not perfect, but at least there was a process to choosing girls through try outs etc... then Inside lacrosse has the top girls already highlighted and figured out too. Think they were just in a rebels to get a list out, eventually they will go through due diligence and correct it. Maybe not? Not being mean, my daughter is on list, that’s nice, but seeing some of the names on there completely destroys the credibility of the list. I know many deserving girls and I feel bad for them because some of these choices are a million miles off.

Can someone please post a link to this list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

They have some kids correct, some spots are just baffling. I think they are just trying to piece together a list and are too new at doing it at this point and are just taking the word of some ill advised people. If they want to know who is who on the sophomore landscape they should comb back through all the Under Armour, Schoolgirls, select teams etc rosters. Not perfect, but at least there was a process to choosing girls through try outs etc... then Inside lacrosse has the top girls already highlighted and figured out too. Think they were just in a rebels to get a list out, eventually they will go through due diligence and correct it. Maybe not? Not being mean, my daughter is on list, that’s nice, but seeing some of the names on there completely destroys the credibility of the list. I know many deserving girls and I feel bad for them because some of these choices are a million miles off.

If your daughter is a sophomore you will see where she stands on September 1st. Been down this road before. The top players will hear from a number of the top programs. Some players slip through the cracks but for the most part the coaches from the top 10 - 20 programs identify the majority of the top players and they make offers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

They have some kids correct, some spots are just baffling. I think they are just trying to piece together a list and are too new at doing it at this point and are just taking the word of some ill advised people. If they want to know who is who on the sophomore landscape they should comb back through all the Under Armour, Schoolgirls, select teams etc rosters. Not perfect, but at least there was a process to choosing girls through try outs etc... then Inside lacrosse has the top girls already highlighted and figured out too. Think they were just in a rebels to get a list out, eventually they will go through due diligence and correct it. Maybe not? Not being mean, my daughter is on list, that’s nice, but seeing some of the names on there completely destroys the credibility of the list. I know many deserving girls and I feel bad for them because some of these choices are a million miles off.

If your daughter is a sophomore you will see where she stands on September 1st. Been down this road before. The top players will hear from a number of the top programs. Some players slip through the cracks but for the most part the coaches from the top 10 - 20 programs identify the majority of the top players and they make offers.

The top girls don’t have to wait for Sept 1st, all the top programs have found a way to make their interest known clearly already. Sept 1st is the date you can openly talk to them and tell them about all the other interest your daughter may have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

They have some kids correct, some spots are just baffling. I think they are just trying to piece together a list and are too new at doing it at this point and are just taking the word of some ill advised people. If they want to know who is who on the sophomore landscape they should comb back through all the Under Armour, Schoolgirls, select teams etc rosters. Not perfect, but at least there was a process to choosing girls through try outs etc... then Inside lacrosse has the top girls already highlighted and figured out too. Think they were just in a rebels to get a list out, eventually they will go through due diligence and correct it. Maybe not? Not being mean, my daughter is on list, that’s nice, but seeing some of the names on there completely destroys the credibility of the list. I know many deserving girls and I feel bad for them because some of these choices are a million miles off.

If your daughter is a sophomore you will see where she stands on September 1st. Been down this road before. The top players will hear from a number of the top programs. Some players slip through the cracks but for the most part the coaches from the top 10 - 20 programs identify the majority of the top players and they make offers.

The top girls don’t have to wait for Sept 1st, all the top programs have found a way to make their interest known clearly already. Sept 1st is the date you can openly talk to them and tell them about all the other interest your daughter may have.

Agree. FLG, All-County, Newsday Top 100 etc... none of it matters. What schools make offers and what type of offers they make will tell you how you stand in relation to other players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Center Moriches be 1-8 when FLG says they have 5 Super Sophs. Especially who they play.

you're not serious about FLG are you?

FLG is the absolute worst. Basically everything they post is wrong. They don’t fact check at all and have the *** to tweet inaccurate garbage. Useless

They have some kids correct, some spots are just baffling. I think they are just trying to piece together a list and are too new at doing it at this point and are just taking the word of some ill advised people. If they want to know who is who on the sophomore landscape they should comb back through all the Under Armour, Schoolgirls, select teams etc rosters. Not perfect, but at least there was a process to choosing girls through try outs etc... then Inside lacrosse has the top girls already highlighted and figured out too. Think they were just in a rebels to get a list out, eventually they will go through due diligence and correct it. Maybe not? Not being mean, my daughter is on list, that’s nice, but seeing some of the names on there completely destroys the credibility of the list. I know many deserving girls and I feel bad for them because some of these choices are a million miles off.

Can someone please post a link to this list

FLG have started the “LI Lacrosse Journal”

https://[ChillLaxin]/2019/04/26/the-super-sophomores-girls-updated-list/

I forgot to add that anyone can nominate a player for these lists via the attached email.. kinda ruins the exclusivity if ya ask me...
There is another list for freshman and includes players on JV .. cmon..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I forgot to add that anyone can nominate a player for these lists via the attached email.. kinda ruins the exclusivity if ya ask me...
There is another list for freshman and includes players on JV .. cmon..

FLG is for participation trophies, embarrassing!

Um....any website where the parents call in their kids stats to get on a fake list is a Joke. This has to be the worst attempt at a “list” that I’ve ever seen! “Is there anyone we missed? “ C’mon!!

Who won the MC game last night

A little bit of movement this week.

1-Northport 10-1-0 167.960
2-Middle Country 9-1-0 156.290
3-Ward Melville 9-1-0 152.870
4-Riverhead 8-2-0 144.910
5-Smithtown West 6-4-0 129.090
6-Smithtown East 6-4-0 127.910
7-Bay Shore 6-3-0 114.330
8-Connetquot 5-4-0 112.020
9-Sachem North 6-4-0 111.930
10-Commack HS 5-5-0 111.250
11-Huntington 5-5-0 107.280

Outside looking in,,,,
Sachem East 4-6-0 104.640
[/quote]

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Can Huntington hang on? Will Sachem East step up?.....Looks like the last game of the season for Huntington/Sachem East will get the last playoff spot. Unless Sachem East knocks of Northport.

1-Northport 11-1-0 173.160
2-Middle Country 10-1-0 162.620
3-Ward Melville 10-1-0 154.830
4-Riverhead 8-3-0 141.020
5-Smithtown East 7-4-0 133.750
6-Smithtown West 6-4-0 128.820
7-Connetquot 6-4-0 119.190
8-Sachem North 7-4-0 116.280
9-Commack HS 5-6-0 109.950
10-Bay Shore 6-4-0 109.390
11-Huntington 5-6-0 106.240

Outside looking in...…..
Sachem East 5-6-0 105.830

Can Hauppauge hold on?

1-Eastport/SManor 9-1-0 158.550
2-West Babylon 8-2-0 146.550
3-West Islip 7-3-0 137.330
4-Harborfields 5-5-0116.220
5-Comsewogue 4-5-0 107.210
6-Hauppauge 6-3-0 107.200

Outside looking in...….
East Islip 3-6-0 103.990

[/quote]

Class B Playoffs if they started today.

Can EI Knock off Babylon & WHB to grab that last spot?
Comsewogue can get points if they beat Babylon...…
Babylon can be the spoiler.

1-Eastport/SManor 10-1-0162.100
2-West Babylon 9-2-0 149.370
3-West Islip 8-3-0141.940
4-Harborfields 6-5-0 120.120
5-Hauppauge 8-3-0 116.680
6-Comsewogue 4-7-0 102.400

Outside looking in.....
East Islip 3-7-0 99.670

Can RP make a push?

1-Mt. Sinai 9-1-0 161.550
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 7-2-0 142.670
3-Westhampton 7-3-0 137.670
4-Sayville 7-3-0 120.080
5-Shoreham WR 5-5-0 117.670

Outside looking in.....
Rocky Point 4-6-0 106.450

[/quote]

Class C Playoffs if they started today..
Can RP make up 13 power points?

1-Mt. Sinai 10-1-0 165.580
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 9-2-0 152.850
3-Westhampton 8-3-0 142.730
4-Sayville 8-4-0 118.610
5-Shoreham WR 5-6-0 115.460

Outside looking in.....
Rocky Point 4-7-0 102.650

Lock this one up no changes.

Mattituck/Shld 6-4-0 126.450
Babylon 5-4-0 99.870
Port Jefferson 3-7-0 70.310

Outside looking in.....
Center Moriches 1-8-0 59.200

[/quote]

Class D playoffs if they started today....
CM has 4 games left may make it interesting for that last spot! Can PJ hold on?

1-Mattituck/Shld 7-4-0 130.910
2-Babylon 5-5-0 100.150
3-Port Jefferson 3-8-0 65.630

Outside looking in......
Center Moriches 2-8-0 61.080

Overall suffolk is a bit down this year but the Northport, ESM and Mt. Sinai will win. Nassau off as well but not sure who will get off The Island. Playoffs should be fun. Good luck to all.

Center Moriches has a difficult remainder of the schedule. They will lose last 4 games. Port Jeff could win 2 out of last 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can Hauppauge hold on?

1-Eastport/SManor 9-1-0 158.550
2-West Babylon 8-2-0 146.550
3-West Islip 7-3-0 137.330
4-Harborfields 5-5-0116.220
5-Comsewogue 4-5-0 107.210
6-Hauppauge 6-3-0 107.200

Outside looking in...….
East Islip 3-6-0 103.990

Class B Playoffs if they started today.

Can EI Knock off Babylon & WHB to grab that last spot?
Comsewogue can get points if they beat Babylon...…
Babylon can be the spoiler.

1-Eastport/SManor 10-1-0162.100
2-West Babylon 9-2-0 149.370
3-West Islip 8-3-0141.940
4-Harborfields 6-5-0 120.120
5-Hauppauge 8-3-0 116.680
6-Comsewogue 4-7-0 102.400

Outside looking in.....
East Islip 3-7-0 99.670

[/quote]
How is it that a team from class D could effect the B playoff bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can Hauppauge hold on?

1-Eastport/SManor 9-1-0 158.550
2-West Babylon 8-2-0 146.550
3-West Islip 7-3-0 137.330
4-Harborfields 5-5-0116.220
5-Comsewogue 4-5-0 107.210
6-Hauppauge 6-3-0 107.200

Outside looking in...….
East Islip 3-6-0 103.990

Class B Playoffs if they started today.

Can EI Knock off Babylon & WHB to grab that last spot?
Comsewogue can get points if they beat Babylon...…
Babylon can be the spoiler.

1-Eastport/SManor 10-1-0162.100
2-West Babylon 9-2-0 149.370
3-West Islip 8-3-0141.940
4-Harborfields 6-5-0 120.120
5-Hauppauge 8-3-0 116.680
6-Comsewogue 4-7-0 102.400

Outside looking in.....
East Islip 3-7-0 99.670

How is it that a team from class D could effect the B playoff bracket?
[/quote]

Power point system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can RP make a push?

1-Mt. Sinai 9-1-0 161.550
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 7-2-0 142.670
3-Westhampton 7-3-0 137.670
4-Sayville 7-3-0 120.080
5-Shoreham WR 5-5-0 117.670

Outside looking in.....
Rocky Point 4-6-0 106.450

Class C Playoffs if they started today..
Can RP make up 13 power points?

1-Mt. Sinai 10-1-0 165.580
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 9-2-0 152.850
3-Westhampton 8-3-0 142.730
4-Sayville 8-4-0 118.610
5-Shoreham WR 5-6-0 115.460

Outside looking in.....
Rocky Point 4-7-0 102.650

[/quote]

Best PAL coach in Suffolk County - maybe the whole world!

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Can Huntington hang on? Will Sachem East step up?.....Looks like the last game of the season for Huntington/Sachem East will get the last playoff spot. Unless Sachem East knocks of Northport.

1-Northport 11-1-0 173.160
2-Middle Country 10-1-0 162.620
3-Ward Melville 10-1-0 154.830
4-Riverhead 8-3-0 141.020
5-Smithtown East 7-4-0 133.750
6-Smithtown West 6-4-0 128.820
7-Connetquot 6-4-0 119.190
8-Sachem North 7-4-0 116.280
9-Commack HS 5-6-0 109.950
10-Bay Shore 6-4-0 109.390
11-Huntington 5-6-0 106.240

Outside looking in...…..
Sachem East 5-6-0 105.830[/quote]

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Very little movement. Looks like it will come down to the last game of the season for either Huntington or Sachem East!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.170
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.430
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 161.280
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.470
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 138.490
6-Smithtown West 6-5-0 125.600
7-Connetquot 7-4-0 119.670
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.650
9-Bay Shore 7-4-0 115.120
10-Sachem North 7-5-0 114.970
11-Sachem East 6-6-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....
Huntington 5-6-0 104.750

Can EI Knock off Babylon & WHB to grab that last spot?
Comsewogue can get points if they beat Babylon...…
Babylon can be the spoiler.

1-Eastport/SManor 10-1-0162.100
2-West Babylon 9-2-0 149.370
3-West Islip 8-3-0141.940
4-Harborfields 6-5-0 120.120
5-Hauppauge 8-3-0 116.680
6-Comsewogue 4-7-0 102.400

Outside looking in.....
East Islip 3-7-0 99.670

[/quote]

Class B Playoffs if they started today.
Can E I win two out of the last three ?

1-Eastport/SManor 11-1-0 167.740
2-West Babylon 10-2-0 157.140
3-West Islip 8-4-0 139.960
4-Hauppauge 9-3-0 121.210
5-Harborfields 6-6-0 119.810
6-Comsewogue 5-7-0 103.070

Outside looking in.....
East Islip 4-7-0 98.950

Class C Playoffs if they started today..
Can RP make up 13 power points?

1-Mt. Sinai 10-1-0 165.580
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 9-2-0 152.850
3-Westhampton 8-3-0 142.730
4-Sayville 8-4-0 118.610
5-Shoreham WR 5-6-0 115.460

Outside looking in.....
Rocky Point 4-7-0 102.650

[/quote]

Class C Playoffs if they started today...…

Can RP make up 15 power points?

1-Mt. Sinai 10-2-0 163.440
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 9-2-0 154.500
3-Westhampton 8-3-0 141.760
4-Sayville 9-4-0 121.990
5-Shoreham WR 6-6-0 117.060

Outside looking in......
Rocky Point 4-7-0 102.370

Lock this one up no changes.

Mattituck/Shld 6-4-0 126.450
Babylon 5-4-0 99.870
Port Jefferson 3-7-0 70.310

Outside looking in.....
Center Moriches 1-8-0 59.200

[/quote]Class D playoffs if they started today....

Done deal here.

1-Mattituck/Shld 8-4-0 139.100
2-Babylon 6-5-0 103.340
3-Port Jefferson 3-9-0 59.340

Center Moriches 2-9-0 55.170

Shows you how weak Class D is when Port Jefferson makes playoffs. They will get crushed by Babylon and it will come down to Mattituck vs Babylon like always. Same old same old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Can Huntington hang on? Will Sachem East step up?.....Looks like the last game of the season for Huntington/Sachem East will get the last playoff spot. Unless Sachem East knocks of Northport.

1-Northport 11-1-0 173.160
2-Middle Country 10-1-0 162.620
3-Ward Melville 10-1-0 154.830
4-Riverhead 8-3-0 141.020
5-Smithtown East 7-4-0 133.750
6-Smithtown West 6-4-0 128.820
7-Connetquot 6-4-0 119.190
8-Sachem North 7-4-0 116.280
9-Commack HS 5-6-0 109.950
10-Bay Shore 6-4-0 109.390
11-Huntington 5-6-0 106.240

Outside looking in...…..
Sachem East 5-6-0 105.830

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Very little movement. Looks like it will come down to the last game of the season for either Huntington or Sachem East!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.170
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.430
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 161.280
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.470
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 138.490
6-Smithtown West 6-5-0 125.600
7-Connetquot 7-4-0 119.670
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.650
9-Bay Shore 7-4-0 115.120
10-Sachem North 7-5-0 114.970
11-Sachem East 6-6-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....
Huntington 5-6-0 104.750
[/quote]

looks like riverhead is going to lose 5 of their last 6 games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Can Huntington hang on? Will Sachem East step up?.....Looks like the last game of the season for Huntington/Sachem East will get the last playoff spot. Unless Sachem East knocks of Northport.

1-Northport 11-1-0 173.160
2-Middle Country 10-1-0 162.620
3-Ward Melville 10-1-0 154.830
4-Riverhead 8-3-0 141.020
5-Smithtown East 7-4-0 133.750
6-Smithtown West 6-4-0 128.820
7-Connetquot 6-4-0 119.190
8-Sachem North 7-4-0 116.280
9-Commack HS 5-6-0 109.950
10-Bay Shore 6-4-0 109.390
11-Huntington 5-6-0 106.240

Outside looking in...…..
Sachem East 5-6-0 105.830

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Very little movement. Looks like it will come down to the last game of the season for either Huntington or Sachem East!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.170
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.430
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 161.280
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.470
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 138.490
6-Smithtown West 6-5-0 125.600
7-Connetquot 7-4-0 119.670
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.650
9-Bay Shore 7-4-0 115.120
10-Sachem North 7-5-0 114.970
11-Sachem East 6-6-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....
Huntington 5-6-0 104.750
[/quote]

Huntington and Sachem East fighting for that last spot!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.780
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.730
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 160.840
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.320
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 139.630
6-Smithtown West 7-5-0 132.120
7-Bay Shore8-4-0 121.490
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.810
9-Connetquot 7-5-0 115.660
10-Sachem North 7-6-0 111.100
11-Huntington 6-6-0 107.250

Outside looking in.....
Sachem East 6-6-0 106.870

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can EI Knock off Babylon & WHB to grab that last spot?
Comsewogue can get points if they beat Babylon...…
Babylon can be the spoiler.

1-Eastport/SManor 10-1-0162.100
2-West Babylon 9-2-0 149.370
3-West Islip 8-3-0141.940
4-Harborfields 6-5-0 120.120
5-Hauppauge 8-3-0 116.680
6-Comsewogue 4-7-0 102.400

Outside looking in.....
East Islip 3-7-0 99.670

Class B Playoffs if they started today.
Can E I win two out of the last three ?

1-Eastport/SManor 11-1-0 167.740
2-West Babylon 10-2-0 157.140
3-West Islip 8-4-0 139.960
4-Hauppauge 9-3-0 121.210
5-Harborfields 6-6-0 119.810
6-Comsewogue 5-7-0 103.070

Outside looking in.....
East Islip 4-7-0 98.950[/quote]

EI & Comsewgue battling for the last spot.

1-Eastport/SManor 11-1-0 167.350
2-West Babylon 10-2-0 157.350
3-West Islip 8-4-0 139.800
4-Harborfields 7-6-0 121.470
5-Hauppauge 9-3-0 120.910
6-East Islip 4-7-0 99.160

outside looking in.....
Comsewogue 5-8-0 98.960

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shows you how weak Class D is when Port Jefferson makes playoffs. They will get crushed by Babylon and it will come down to Mattituck vs Babylon like always. Same old same old.

True but once you are off the Island the D division is much stronger than C and somewhat stronger than B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shows you how weak Class D is when Port Jefferson makes playoffs. They will get crushed by Babylon and it will come down to Mattituck vs Babylon like always. Same old same old.

There are only a handful of teams in D, what do you expect? Mattituck certainly isn’t weak. They could play in another class and do just fine but you don’t have a choice in what class you’re in!

Class B if playoffs started today...….

1-Eastport/SManor 12-1-0 174.240
2-West Babylon 11-2-0 164.730
3-West Islip 9-4-0 143.080
4-Harborfields 7-6-0 121.290
5-Hauppauge 9-4-0 119.050
6-Comsewogue 5-8-0 98.410

Outside looking in...….
7-East Islip 4-8-095.660

Class C if playoffs started today...…

1-Mt. Sinai 11-2-0166.990
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 11-2-0 165.450
3-Westhampton 9-4-0143.960
4-Sayville 9-5-0 120.920
5-Shoreham WR 6-6-0 117.310

Outside looking in......
Rocky Point 4-8-0 99.480

Looks like class C & D are done. RP needed a win yesterday and that didn't happen.

Congratulations to the Long Island Teams ranked nationally.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...-high-school-power-rankings-week-8/54494

Class B if playoff started today...…..

1-Eastport/SManor 12-1-0 174.240
2-West Babylon 11-2-0 164.730
3-West Islip 9-4-0 143.530
4-Harborfields 7-6-0 121.740
5-Hauppauge 9-4-0 119.440
6-Comsewogue 5-8-0 98.860

Outside looking in...…….
East Islip 4-8-0 96.110

Can Babylon play the spoiler for EI ?

Nassau playoff anyone?

What's with the girls' Catholic League?? Can anyone confirm that Sacred Heart beat Garden City ??

in the A class -
Depends on who gets hot.

in the B class -
Manhasset looks like the best team on the island. They play team ball !
The Suffolk teams rely on one or two stars to carry the team.
My bet is on Manhasset to win States again this year.

in the C class -

CSH should win over whoever comes out of Suffolk.
They also play team ball and are very well coached.

Why did sachem and Wm play again?

Predictions for the first round of Suffolk playoffs??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in the A class -
Depends on who gets hot.

in the B class -
Manhasset looks like the best team on the island. They play team ball !
The Suffolk teams rely on one or two stars to carry the team.
My bet is on Manhasset to win States again this year.

in the C class -

CSH should win over whoever comes out of Suffolk.
They also play team ball and are very well coached.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in the A class -
Depends on who gets hot.

in the B class -
Manhasset looks like the best team on the island. They play team ball !
The Suffolk teams rely on one or two stars to carry the team.
My bet is on Manhasset to win States again this year.

in the C class -

CSH should win over whoever comes out of Suffolk.
They also play team ball and are very well coached.

Class A will be Northport easily beating whoever Nassau sends to it.
Class B , gotta go with Manhassett over ESM ( ESM does not have enough offense)
Class C I think BBP wins in a close one over CSH, BBP has the better athletes
Class D will be Mattituck over CP but will be closer than in years past as CP is a solid team this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um....any website where the parents call in their kids stats to get on a fake list is a Joke. This has to be the worst attempt at a “list” that I’ve ever seen! “Is there anyone we missed? “ C’mon!!

what are we talking about here? What lists

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class B if playoff started today...…..

1-Eastport/SManor 12-1-0 174.240
2-West Babylon 11-2-0 164.730
3-West Islip 9-4-0 143.530
4-Harborfields 7-6-0 121.740
5-Hauppauge 9-4-0 119.440
6-Comsewogue 5-8-0 98.860

Outside looking in...…….
East Islip 4-8-0 96.110

Can Babylon play the spoiler for EI ?

No upsets in B yesterday
WI over EI
Harborfields over Hauppauge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class C if playoffs started today...…

1-Mt. Sinai 11-2-0166.990
2-Bayport-Blue Pt 11-2-0 165.450
3-Westhampton 9-4-0143.960
4-Sayville 9-5-0 120.920
5-Shoreham WR 6-6-0 117.310

Outside looking in......
Rocky Point 4-8-0 99.480

Looks like class C & D are done. RP needed a win yesterday and that didn't happen.

No upsets yesterday
SWR over Sayville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Can Huntington hang on? Will Sachem East step up?.....Looks like the last game of the season for Huntington/Sachem East will get the last playoff spot. Unless Sachem East knocks of Northport.

1-Northport 11-1-0 173.160
2-Middle Country 10-1-0 162.620
3-Ward Melville 10-1-0 154.830
4-Riverhead 8-3-0 141.020
5-Smithtown East 7-4-0 133.750
6-Smithtown West 6-4-0 128.820
7-Connetquot 6-4-0 119.190
8-Sachem North 7-4-0 116.280
9-Commack HS 5-6-0 109.950
10-Bay Shore 6-4-0 109.390
11-Huntington 5-6-0 106.240

Outside looking in...…..
Sachem East 5-6-0 105.830

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Very little movement. Looks like it will come down to the last game of the season for either Huntington or Sachem East!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.170
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.430
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 161.280
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.470
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 138.490
6-Smithtown West 6-5-0 125.600
7-Connetquot 7-4-0 119.670
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.650
9-Bay Shore 7-4-0 115.120
10-Sachem North 7-5-0 114.970
11-Sachem East 6-6-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....
Huntington 5-6-0 104.750

Huntington and Sachem East fighting for that last spot!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.780
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.730
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 160.840
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.320
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 139.630
6-Smithtown West 7-5-0 132.120
7-Bay Shore8-4-0 121.490
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.810
9-Connetquot 7-5-0 115.660
10-Sachem North 7-6-0 111.100
11-Huntington 6-6-0 107.250

Outside looking in.....
Sachem East 6-6-0 106.870[/quote]

No upsets in first round.

BS over Sachem East
SW over Sachem North
Commack over Connetquot

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um....any website where the parents call in their kids stats to get on a fake list is a Joke. This has to be the worst attempt at a “list” that I’ve ever seen! “Is there anyone we missed? “ C’mon!!

what are we talking about here? What lists

I believe FLG puts out a list that is apparently a joke.

You won't read about it in Newsday, but yes, Sacred Heart did beat GC by one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with the girls' Catholic League?? Can anyone confirm that Sacred Heart beat Garden City ??

Not that you will ever read about it in Newsday, but yes, SHA beat GC by 1 goal (9-8).

Anybody else having trouble with this thread? Shows that there was a post yesterday afternoon (5/20, 2:02 pm) on the "table of contents page" but when I click on it, the last post I see is from 5/15. Similar thing happened about a week ago.

is this thread active? I have checked from different computers and it shows that last posts occurred within hours, but the last post I see is from may 15?

Test

Originally Posted by TheBackOfTheCage

Test

FYI - Looks like it's back.

OK, what about today's Semis.
Riverhead at MC
WM at NP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Can Huntington hang on? Will Sachem East step up?.....Looks like the last game of the season for Huntington/Sachem East will get the last playoff spot. Unless Sachem East knocks of Northport.

1-Northport 11-1-0 173.160
2-Middle Country 10-1-0 162.620
3-Ward Melville 10-1-0 154.830
4-Riverhead 8-3-0 141.020
5-Smithtown East 7-4-0 133.750
6-Smithtown West 6-4-0 128.820
7-Connetquot 6-4-0 119.190
8-Sachem North 7-4-0 116.280
9-Commack HS 5-6-0 109.950
10-Bay Shore 6-4-0 109.390
11-Huntington 5-6-0 106.240

Outside looking in...…..
Sachem East 5-6-0 105.830

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Very little movement. Looks like it will come down to the last game of the season for either Huntington or Sachem East!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.170
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.430
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 161.280
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.470
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 138.490
6-Smithtown West 6-5-0 125.600
7-Connetquot 7-4-0 119.670
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.650
9-Bay Shore 7-4-0 115.120
10-Sachem North 7-5-0 114.970
11-Sachem East 6-6-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....
Huntington 5-6-0 104.750

Huntington and Sachem East fighting for that last spot!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.780
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.730
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 160.840
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.320
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 139.630
6-Smithtown West 7-5-0 132.120
7-Bay Shore8-4-0 121.490
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.810
9-Connetquot 7-5-0 115.660
10-Sachem North 7-6-0 111.100
11-Huntington 6-6-0 107.250

Outside looking in.....
Sachem East 6-6-0 106.870

No upsets in first round.

BS over Sachem East
SW over Sachem North
Commack over Connetquot
[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Can Huntington hang on? Will Sachem East step up?.....Looks like the last game of the season for Huntington/Sachem East will get the last playoff spot. Unless Sachem East knocks of Northport.

1-Northport 11-1-0 173.160
2-Middle Country 10-1-0 162.620
3-Ward Melville 10-1-0 154.830
4-Riverhead 8-3-0 141.020
5-Smithtown East 7-4-0 133.750
6-Smithtown West 6-4-0 128.820
7-Connetquot 6-4-0 119.190
8-Sachem North 7-4-0 116.280
9-Commack HS 5-6-0 109.950
10-Bay Shore 6-4-0 109.390
11-Huntington 5-6-0 106.240

Outside looking in...…..
Sachem East 5-6-0 105.830

Class A Playoff picture if they started today...

Very little movement. Looks like it will come down to the last game of the season for either Huntington or Sachem East!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.170
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.430
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 161.280
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.470
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 138.490
6-Smithtown West 6-5-0 125.600
7-Connetquot 7-4-0 119.670
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.650
9-Bay Shore 7-4-0 115.120
10-Sachem North 7-5-0 114.970
11-Sachem East 6-6-0 106.490

Outside looking in.....
Huntington 5-6-0 104.750

Huntington and Sachem East fighting for that last spot!

1-Northport 12-1-0 175.780
2-Middle Country 11-1-0 166.730
3-Ward Melville 11-1-0 160.840
4-Riverhead 9-3-0 145.320
5-Smithtown East 8-4-0 139.630
6-Smithtown West 7-5-0 132.120
7-Bay Shore8-4-0 121.490
8-Commack HS 6-6-0 116.810
9-Connetquot 7-5-0 115.660
10-Sachem North 7-6-0 111.100
11-Huntington 6-6-0 107.250

Outside looking in.....
Sachem East 6-6-0 106.870

No upsets in first round.

BS over Sachem East
SW over Sachem North
Commack over Connetquot
[/quote]

\Why would you expect any upsets? half the teams in the playoffs have no business being there

Athletes don’t expect upsets but the reason you play the game is for the opportunity to achieve the upset and create lifetime memories. Every game you play one team will loose. No greater feeling than knocking off a #1 seed.

Any predictions for suffolk county games.

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

Many HS coaches that are regularly in the playoffs do not allow their players to tryout for school girls on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

Many HS coaches that are regularly in the playoffs do not allow their players to tryout for school girls on LI

I agree with those coaches. What teams are you talking about? Very selfish to go play in school girls if your team is in the playoffs. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I, gotta get mine....
What should we expect? The sport has been ruined by delusional parents who have no understanding of the game or of team sports in general.

“I agree with those coaches. What teams are you talking about? Very selfish to go play in school girls if your team is in the playoffs. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I, gotta get mine....
What should we expect? The sport has been ruined by delusional parents who have no understanding of the game or of team sports in general.”

That’s just ignorant .First off you can only tryout if your coach recommends you . If your coach recommends you then they must be okay with you going . Second , the tryouts are before you know if your high school team has actually made the playoffs . If you are going to the tryouts and make a team and don’t go that’s worse as you have taken the spot from someone . That said schoolgirls is less prestigious than it used to be and a lot of kids don’t tryout for various reasons .The person saying the talent pool has dropped off is clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

Many HS coaches that are regularly in the playoffs do not allow their players to tryout for school girls on LI

I agree with those coaches. What teams are you talking about? Very selfish to go play in school girls if your team is in the playoffs. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I, gotta get mine....
What should we expect? The sport has been ruined by delusional parents who have no understanding of the game or of team sports in general.

That very well maybe the case, some coaches don’t let their players try-out but that would be the case every year then and last years team was able to win without the ones who weren’t allowed to try-out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“I agree with those coaches. What teams are you talking about? Very selfish to go play in school girls if your team is in the playoffs. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I, gotta get mine....
What should we expect? The sport has been ruined by delusional parents who have no understanding of the game or of team sports in general.”

That’s just ignorant .First off you can only tryout if your coach recommends you . If your coach recommends you then they must be okay with you going . Second , the tryouts are before you know if your high school team has actually made the playoffs . If you are going to the tryouts and make a team and don’t go that’s worse as you have taken the spot from someone . That said schoolgirls is less prestigious than it used to be and a lot of kids don’t tryout for various reasons .The person saying the talent pool has dropped off is clueless.

Talent pool is off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“I agree with those coaches. What teams are you talking about? Very selfish to go play in school girls if your team is in the playoffs. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I, gotta get mine....
What should we expect? The sport has been ruined by delusional parents who have no understanding of the game or of team sports in general.”

That’s just ignorant .First off you can only tryout if your coach recommends you . If your coach recommends you then they must be okay with you going . Second , the tryouts are before you know if your high school team has actually made the playoffs . If you are going to the tryouts and make a team and don’t go that’s worse as you have taken the spot from someone . That said schoolgirls is less prestigious than it used to be and a lot of kids don’t tryout for various reasons .The person saying the talent pool has dropped off is clueless.

Talent pool is off.

It’s the same mantra of the clueless dads with older kids , my kids year was so talented but clearly the younger groups are fading . My kid graduated high school in 2016 and the same nonsense was said about her class compared to the 2014 , and 2015 classes . It’s not like LI has won the schoolgirls tournament every year . Last year other states teams were weak because who wants to travel to LI to play which is probably one of the reasons LI did not have some kids try out this year . Stop being ignorant .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“I agree with those coaches. What teams are you talking about? Very selfish to go play in school girls if your team is in the playoffs. Me, Me, Me, I, I, I, gotta get mine....
What should we expect? The sport has been ruined by delusional parents who have no understanding of the game or of team sports in general.”

That’s just ignorant .First off you can only tryout if your coach recommends you . If your coach recommends you then they must be okay with you going . Second , the tryouts are before you know if your high school team has actually made the playoffs . If you are going to the tryouts and make a team and don’t go that’s worse as you have taken the spot from someone . That said schoolgirls is less prestigious than it used to be and a lot of kids don’t tryout for various reasons .The person saying the talent pool has dropped off is clueless.

Talent pool is off.

It’s the same mantra of the clueless dads with older kids , my kids year was so talented but clearly the younger groups are fading . My kid graduated high school in 2016 and the same nonsense was said about her class compared to the 2014 , and 2015 classes . It’s not like LI has won the schoolgirls tournament every year . Last year other states teams were weak because who wants to travel to LI to play which is probably one of the reasons LI did not have some kids try out this year . Stop being ignorant .

My youngest is a 2019. I have been watching since 2011 and the talent is not there relative to the rest of the country. Maybe it is because more kids are playing i don't know why but LI does not have as much top talent as in past years. What team has more depth of high end talent than in the past several years? MS, GC, CHS, Set,WI, SWR, MC, WM, NP, BBP? Maybe ESM but don't think so.

"My youngest is a 2019. I have been watching since 2011 and the talent is not there relative to the rest of the country. Maybe it is because more kids are playing i don't know why but LI does not have as much top talent as in past years. What team has more depth of high end talent than in the past several years? MS, GC, CHS, Set,WI, SWR, MC, WM, NP, BBP? Maybe ESM but don't think so."

If you think the talent pool was deeper on LI in 2011 compared to today you just not paying attention. If you are saying LI does not have the same percent of top players as compared to the rest of the country , I agree and 2011 had less of a percentage of top players compared to 2005 when about 4 states had the sport. Lets see how the rising 11th 12 th grade UA team does before ronouncing the sport dead on LI.

Garden City over ESM for Long Island Championship 10-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City over ESM for Long Island Championship 10-8

That's a horrible loss for ESM, GC a very average team this year. I guess it shows what a difference coaching makes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City over ESM for Long Island Championship 10-8

That's a horrible loss for ESM, GC a very average team this year. I guess it shows what a difference coaching makes

Pretty sure it was a prediction not an actual result.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Garden City over ESM for Long Island Championship 10-8

That's a horrible loss for ESM, GC a very average team this year. I guess it shows what a difference coaching makes

Pretty sure it was a prediction not an actual result.

GC doesn't get past Manhasset.

Predictions

Farmingdale over Massapequa
Manhasset over GC
Csh over Wantagh
Carle place over Oyster bay

Northport over Middle Country
Esm over West Babylon
Mt Sinai over Bbp

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

Many HS coaches that are regularly in the playoffs do not allow their players to tryout for school girls on LI

Most players already committed opt out of school girls..doesn't leave many top tier players at this point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

Many HS coaches that are regularly in the playoffs do not allow their players to tryout for school girls on LI

Most players already committed opt out of school girls..doesn't leave many top tier players at this point

Not true at all. Daughter played schoolgirls about 3 yrs ago and every girl on all 3 LI teams was committed and every top player from LI played with the exception of 1 or 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

Many HS coaches that are regularly in the playoffs do not allow their players to tryout for school girls on LI

Most players already committed opt out of school girls..doesn't leave many top tier players at this point

Makes sense why they got crushed...

Nobody has anything to say from the LIC's last weekend?

O.T. ,
a blow out
and two low scoring stall filled games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has anything to say from the LIC's last weekend?

O.T. ,
a blow out
and two low scoring stall filled games?

If there's not going to be a shot clock then the refs need have the authority to throw the flag and start a 30 second shot clock, the stall at the HS level has become a joke and has ruined the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has anything to say from the LIC's last weekend?

O.T. ,
a blow out
and two low scoring stall filled games?

. was just saying this... i think most folks on here are from 2nd tier ha lax schools like pat cough and commack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has anything to say from the LIC's last weekend?

O.T. ,
a blow out
and two low scoring stall filled games?

If there's not going to be a shot clock then the refs need have the authority to throw the flag and start a 30 second shot clock, the stall at the HS level has become a joke and has ruined the game

First off that is the worst idea , the reffing is bad enough now you want to give them more power over the outcome . The stall has been going on forever and I don’t have much of an issue with it at the high school level. There is a skill to it and honestly not many teams actually have that skill. There is also a skill to being able to take the ball away . Watched all the LIC games and everyone except A had stalling on purpose going on and yet not one team was actually successful at it . You could stall the whole game and it’s still more exciting than softball .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has anything to say from the LIC's last weekend?

O.T. ,
a blow out
and two low scoring stall filled games?

If there's not going to be a shot clock then the refs need have the authority to throw the flag and start a 30 second shot clock, the stall at the HS level has become a joke and has ruined the game

First off that is the worst idea , the reffing is bad enough now you want to give them more power over the outcome . The stall has been going on forever and I don’t have much of an issue with it at the high school level. There is a skill to it and honestly not many teams actually have that skill. There is also a skill to being able to take the ball away . Watched all the LIC games and everyone except A had stalling on purpose going on and yet not one team was actually successful at it . You could stall the whole game and it’s still more exciting than softball .

That's your opinion - the stall stinks to watch, what is the great skill set? being able to spread out and catch and throw? inevitably the defense gets a yellow card and the game is over - doesn't always have the best team winning - and there's the two reasons college did away with it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has anything to say from the LIC's last weekend?

O.T. ,
a blow out
and two low scoring stall filled games?

If there's not going to be a shot clock then the refs need have the authority to throw the flag and start a 30 second shot clock, the stall at the HS level has become a joke and has ruined the game

First off that is the worst idea , the reffing is bad enough now you want to give them more power over the outcome . The stall has been going on forever and I don’t have much of an issue with it at the high school level. There is a skill to it and honestly not many teams actually have that skill. There is also a skill to being able to take the ball away . Watched all the LIC games and everyone except A had stalling on purpose going on and yet not one team was actually successful at it . You could stall the whole game and it’s still more exciting than softball .

That's your opinion - the stall stinks to watch, what is the great skill set? being able to spread out and catch and throw? inevitably the defense gets a yellow card and the game is over - doesn't always have the best team winning - and there's the two reasons college did away with it

Seriously you think they went to a shot clock so the "best" team would always win and to prevent a late yellow card. They did it to try and make the game faster and more attractive to a larger audience. If you dont think there is a skill to stalling then you are just clueless and paid no attention to 3 of the 4 LIC games as in all but the A game teams were stalling and none of them were completely successful at it .In general the stall is boring but there is actually some strategy involved in terms of when to not go to goal , what to do if the opposing team pulls the goalie you are u by 1 , 2 minutes left and you have been losing the draw, etc..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has anything to say from the LIC's last weekend?

O.T. ,
a blow out
and two low scoring stall filled games?

If there's not going to be a shot clock then the refs need have the authority to throw the flag and start a 30 second shot clock, the stall at the HS level has become a joke and has ruined the game

First off that is the worst idea , the reffing is bad enough now you want to give them more power over the outcome . The stall has been going on forever and I don’t have much of an issue with it at the high school level. There is a skill to it and honestly not many teams actually have that skill. There is also a skill to being able to take the ball away . Watched all the LIC games and everyone except A had stalling on purpose going on and yet not one team was actually successful at it . You could stall the whole game and it’s still more exciting than softball .

That's your opinion - the stall stinks to watch, what is the great skill set? being able to spread out and catch and throw? inevitably the defense gets a yellow card and the game is over - doesn't always have the best team winning - and there's the two reasons college did away with it

Seriously you think they went to a shot clock so the "best" team would always win and to prevent a late yellow card. They did it to try and make the game faster and more attractive to a larger audience. If you dont think there is a skill to stalling then you are just clueless and paid no attention to 3 of the 4 LIC games as in all but the A game teams were stalling and none of them were completely successful at it .In general the stall is boring but there is actually some strategy involved in terms of when to not go to goal , what to do if the opposing team pulls the goalie you are u by 1 , 2 minutes left and you have been losing the draw, etc..

NOBODY wants to see it

“NOBODY wants to see it “

Wrong again, I hope I see my daughters team stalling every game but that does explain why you hate it so much as your kids team must never have a lead .I think the shot clock has been a great addition to the college game but just think it would be a mess for many below average high school teams such as your daughters team . You think players and coaches are running up scores now , add in a shot clock and the scores will be 40 -0.

its really the defense that makes the choice not to pressure out. They sit in a tight zone and hope for a turnover.
BBP took a calculated chance by not pressing out - sometimes it works. This time CSH didn't turn the ball over so BBP just burned the clock while being a goal down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“NOBODY wants to see it “

Wrong again, I hope I see my daughters team stalling every game but that does explain why you hate it so much as your kids team must never have a lead .I think the shot clock has been a great addition to the college game but just think it would be a mess for many below average high school teams such as your daughters team . You think players and coaches are running up scores now , add in a shot clock and the scores will be 40 -0.

you're lost

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“NOBODY wants to see it “

Wrong again, I hope I see my daughters team stalling every game but that does explain why you hate it so much as your kids team must never have a lead .I think the shot clock has been a great addition to the college game but just think it would be a mess for many below average high school teams such as your daughters team . You think players and coaches are running up scores now , add in a shot clock and the scores will be 40 -0.

you're lost

I can’t believe that somebody is actually on here defending the stall??? I spent many years going to the NCAA post season, watching great lacrosse games, and the stall was used very lightly at the end of games, sometimes. Then Northwestern came along.... by the end of their dynasty, the last couple of years that they won the championship, the games were unwatchable. Not sure if Amonte pioneered the stall but she certainly was on full display utilizing it to win the championships. Can’t blame her, do not think they would have won all those years without playing stall. Against the top teams they would slow stall on the start of every possession to burn clock the entire game. Then it became a heavy part of many teams game plan. Thank god for the 90 second shot clock, really needs to be brought into HS game.

I love the shot clock-it makes the game more exciting -period.

Who do all of the Long Island teams play tomorrow in the finals?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“NOBODY wants to see it “

Wrong again, I hope I see my daughters team stalling every game but that does explain why you hate it so much as your kids team must never have a lead .I think the shot clock has been a great addition to the college game but just think it would be a mess for many below average high school teams such as your daughters team . You think players and coaches are running up scores now , add in a shot clock and the scores will be 40 -0.

you're lost

I can’t believe that somebody is actually on here defending the stall??? I spent many years going to the NCAA post season, watching great lacrosse games, and the stall was used very lightly at the end of games, sometimes. Then Northwestern came along.... by the end of their dynasty, the last couple of years that they won the championship, the games were unwatchable. Not sure if Amonte pioneered the stall but she certainly was on full display utilizing it to win the championships. Can’t blame her, do not think they would have won all those years without playing stall. Against the top teams they would slow stall on the start of every possession to burn clock the entire game. Then it became a heavy part of many teams game plan. Thank god for the 90 second shot clock, really needs to be brought into HS game.

And it doesn't have to be 90 seconds in HS initially... start at 120 seconds or 180 seconds. That is a long time to work with for an Offense and allows the defense to get the ball back...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who do all of the Long Island teams play tomorrow in the finals?

Mattituck beat Bronxville

Northport vs. Baker

Fayetteville-Manlius vs. ESM

Cold Spring Harbor vs. John Jay

So it took West Islip moving to class B from Northport to finally win a state championship

“can’t believe that somebody is actually on here defending the stall??? I spent many years going to the NCAA post season, watching great lacrosse games, and the stall was used very lightly at the end of games, sometimes. Then Northwestern came along.... by the end of their dynasty, the last couple of years that they won the championship, the games were unwatchable. Not sure if Amonte pioneered the stall but she certainly was on full display utilizing it to win the championships. Can’t blame her, do not think they would have won all those years without playing stall. Against the top teams they would slow stall on the start of every possession to burn clock the entire game. Then it became a heavy part of many teams game plan. Thank god for the 90 second shot clock, really needs to be brought into HS game. “

First off Einstein , no one is defending the stall ( whatever that means ), it’s part of the game , it’s legal , so there is nothing to defend . If you actually think the shot clock would not negatively impact over 80 percent of high school games you are clueless . The average high school game has many players that are not skilled and between the clear and setting up an offense you will have constant shot clock violations with forced dangerous shots , blowout wins and a worse mess than those games already are . You want to get the game moving , have a draw to start each half .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who do all of the Long Island teams play tomorrow in the finals?

Mattituck beat Bronxville

Northport vs. Baker

Fayetteville-Manlius vs. ESM

Cold Spring Harbor vs. John Jay

LI girls sweep states...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it took West Islip moving to class B from Northport to finally win a state championship

That's cute with West Islip having only 1 state championship and Northport with 2...

Lolololpp how many LIC Leydvkurjgp

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it took West Islip moving to class B from Northport to finally win a state championship

That's cute with West Islip having only 1 state championship and Northport with 2...

thats cute. Wi with 3 LIC. Np zero. Wibmoves. Then np can finally win

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

The talent pool must be down across the whole state as LI just swept the NYS titles or more likely you had an older kid and are one of those “ back in the old days “ types . Talent pool on LI is much deeper than it has ever been but yes the game has grown so there is now good players from all over .

Congrats to all the girls who received honors this year.

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

oh please tell more!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lolololpp how many LIC Leydvkurjgp

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it took West Islip moving to class B from Northport to finally win a state championship

That's cute with West Islip having only 1 state championship and Northport with 2...

thats cute. Wi with 3 LIC. Np zero. Wibmoves. Then np can finally win

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lolololpp how many LIC Leydvkurjgp

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it took West Islip moving to class B from Northport to finally win a state championship

That's cute with West Islip having only 1 state championship and Northport with 2...

thats cute. Wi with 3 LIC. Np zero. Wibmoves. Then np can finally win

Watching WI go from State champs in class A to irrelevant in class B should tell you something about where the most competitive lacrosse is being played, also puts the few decent years they had before moving class into perspective.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Coaching plays a huge role. That said, even a great coach will not win without a decent amount of talented athletes but a team filled with talent will not win with out a good coach. A bad coach will destroy the team. Stop with the parent BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Coaching plays a huge role. That said, even a great coach will not win without a decent amount of talented athletes but a team filled with talent will not win with out a good coach. A bad coach will destroy the team. Stop with the parent BS.

You are just completely wrong ,she is a decent coach .The team has decent individual talent (not as good as they think) but the chemistry is a nightmare . That bad chemistry comes from the parents and if you think chemistry does not matter you are clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Coaching plays a huge role. That said, even a great coach will not win without a decent amount of talented athletes but a team filled with talent will not win with out a good coach. A bad coach will destroy the team. Stop with the parent BS.

You are just completely wrong ,she is a decent coach .The team has decent individual talent (not as good as they think) but the chemistry is a nightmare . That bad chemistry comes from the parents and if you think chemistry does not matter you are clueless.

Of course chemistry matters. Good coaches lead and they set the tone of the team. Parents are not at practice and they are not on the sideline during games. There are teams that have had a lot more talent than Riverhead and they have not been able to win because of poor coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Coaching plays a huge role. That said, even a great coach will not win without a decent amount of talented athletes but a team filled with talent will not win with out a good coach. A bad coach will destroy the team. Stop with the parent BS.

You are just completely wrong ,she is a decent coach .The team has decent individual talent (not as good as they think) but the chemistry is a nightmare . That bad chemistry comes from the parents and if you think chemistry does not matter you are clueless.

Of course chemistry matters. Good coaches lead and they set the tone of the team. Parents are not at practice and they are not on the sideline during games. There are teams that have had a lot more talent than Riverhead and they have not been able to win because of poor coaching.

For example?

Seems to me every parent blames the coaches when a team loses as a way to deflect from the fact that maybe the talent level is just not as good as they think or some of the kids being relatively uncoachable .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder what happened to the LI Metro 1st team at School girls? They lost 12-4 against a Mass/RI team. That’s not so good.

I think the talent pool on the Island is off from where it has been the past several years. Yes there are some excellent players but overall the pool is not as deep.

The talent pool must be down across the whole state as LI just swept the NYS titles or more likely you had an older kid and are one of those “ back in the old days “ types . Talent pool on LI is much deeper than it has ever been but yes the game has grown so there is now good players from all over .

Talent pool is way down especially with regard to high end talent. What programs had more top talent then they have had over the past 5 -6 years? GC, Manhassett, CHS, Wantagh, Massapequa, Syosset, Farmingdale, Mt Sinai, West Islip, Middle Country, Northport, Ward Melville, BBP, West Babylon, ESM etc.... Sorry, it is just not there. Some great players but no where near as many.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me every parent blames the coaches when a team loses as a way to deflect from the fact that maybe the talent level is just not as good as they think or some of the kids being relatively uncoachable .

Not entirely true. There are some coaches that can win when they have the most talent, there are some that can not no matter how much talent they have. Some coaches can win even when they do not have the most (but have enough) talent. Some coaches are just not good. Out in the real world most of the coaches would be fired but they do not live in the real world. HS Lacrosse is a sport of the haves and the have-nots. Nassau has the Power Conference which is good but Suffolk is still a joke in terms of league competition. Thank god for the Club Teams.

In order to win a championship you must have adequate talent and at least good coaching. Great coaches will not win if they do not have adequate talent. Bad or even average coaches will not win even when they have the most talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

Who were the All Americans and who was Rookie of the year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

It’s definitely a flawed process. If you don’t play for the “right” HS/club your chances of getting an award are diminished, regardless of talent level. It’s like this every year, some that get top awards absolutely deserve it, some are certainly more questionable. I don’t see change coming anytime soon. Stinks for the deserving kids whose coaches aren’t part of the Good Ole Boys/Girls club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

It’s definitely a flawed process. If you don’t play for the “right” HS/club your chances of getting an award are diminished, regardless of talent level. It’s like this every year, some that get top awards absolutely deserve it, some are certainly more questionable. I don’t see change coming anytime soon. Stinks for the deserving kids whose coaches aren’t part of the Good Ole Boys/Girls club.

True that all the top clubs and Schools are well represented, deservingly so. But there is also a phenomenon of parents who have kids playing outside of this competitive grouping, who have over hyped views of their kids. Take any of the top kids from any of the top club teams, they look average on that team. Put them on a club you consider “the wrong club” and they look like gods gift to lacrosse. Same exact thing with “the wrong school” . In fact I would say the exact opposite of what you are saying is true, kids on “wrong teams” stand out alone and absolutely get recognition that a much more talented girl on a stacked team may never get because there are ten kids just as good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

It’s definitely a flawed process. If you don’t play for the “right” HS/club your chances of getting an award are diminished, regardless of talent level. It’s like this every year, some that get top awards absolutely deserve it, some are certainly more questionable. I don’t see change coming anytime soon. Stinks for the deserving kids whose coaches aren’t part of the Good Ole Boys/Girls club.

True that all the top clubs and Schools are well represented, deservingly so. But there is also a phenomenon of parents who have kids playing outside of this competitive grouping, who have over hyped views of their kids. Take any of the top kids from any of the top club teams, they look average on that team. Put them on a club you consider “the wrong club” and they look like gods gift to lacrosse. Same exact thing with “the wrong school” . In fact I would say the exact opposite of what you are saying is true, kids on “wrong teams” stand out alone and absolutely get recognition that a much more talented girl on a stacked team may never get because there are ten kids just as good.

Hmmm, im not sure about that, and correct me if I'm wrong but the teams with the most wins get the most awards. I don't know this years results but I assume Northport, ESM and BBP had the most All County / All League Awards as a team for their respective division. if you have a single really good player on a bottom rung team there is a good chance that that player will never be an All County Selection because her team doesn't win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

It’s definitely a flawed process. If you don’t play for the “right” HS/club your chances of getting an award are diminished, regardless of talent level. It’s like this every year, some that get top awards absolutely deserve it, some are certainly more questionable. I don’t see change coming anytime soon. Stinks for the deserving kids whose coaches aren’t part of the Good Ole Boys/Girls club.

US Lacrosse AA selection is the worst. All-County (your coach picks) not political except within your HS. All-County is more socialistic and hurts strong players from programs with a lot of talent. Very good players from teams with a lot of depth do not make it. Good players from weak programs make it even if they are not as strong as many players from programs with a lot of depth who do not make it. Honorable mention AA & and AC were created to give deserving players something because they were not receiving awards due to the situation explained above. All Division/League again is up to your coach and is political within your district. All Long Island is selected by Newsday and is better than the US Lacrosse AA because they select more players and the coaches are not involved so although they can lobby Newsday if they want they can not cut deals behind closed doors. Under Armour is primarily selected by Inside Lacrosse and for the most part follows the IL Player Rankings. UA appears to be based on a body of work on the club circuit over a few years. UA at least watches the top club teams (which have the top players) compete against each other which gives a better indication than watching a non competitive HS game.

Congratulations to all of the players who receive accolades. For the strong players that were overlooked let it motivate them. Go prove everybody wrong.

BTW, I do not have a better solution. There are way too many teams, there is way too much deviation of talent from team to team, there are not enough competitive teams etc... I think most of the people involved do the best they can although I am sure there are some bad apples in the bunch.

Once again, congratulations to all who were honored.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me every parent blames the coaches when a team loses as a way to deflect from the fact that maybe the talent level is just not as good as they think or some of the kids being relatively uncoachable .

Not entirely true. There are some coaches that can win when they have the most talent, there are some that can not no matter how much talent they have. Some coaches can win even when they do not have the most (but have enough) talent. Some coaches are just not good. Out in the real world most of the coaches would be fired but they do not live in the real world. HS Lacrosse is a sport of the haves and the have-nots. Nassau has the Power Conference which is good but Suffolk is still a joke in terms of league competition. Thank god for the Club Teams.

In order to win a championship you must have adequate talent and at least good coaching. Great coaches will not win if they do not have adequate talent. Bad or even average coaches will not win even when they have the most talent.

You really are clueless, Nassau power conference is easier than playing Division 2 in Suffolk and has been for some time. Your "power conference " team that took 4th overall lost to the team that took 20th in D2 suffolk , there are alot more examples but that is the most glaring. The power rankings within the divisions, especially D2 have made for much more competitive schedules

You are right about the stronger teams getting more Year End Awards but All County has.to be voted upon by the coaches. The All Conference / All League awards are just handed out by the team based on how many slots they have which is calculated by your teams record. So no coaches vote for players who receive all conference, all a division, etc.

As for All American, you must be All County the previous year and then the selection committee must vote on the players nominated so if you dont meet the threshold, you would then get Honorable Mention All American or potentially nothing depending on the number of votes or lack thereof. This is extremely challenging to get and the highest recognition as it is not always for each position...they can vote for 12 players and It could be 1 defender, 6 attackers, 3 Goalies & 2 midfielders as it goes to the best players in that section/state (i.e. Section 8 NY, Section 11 NY). And just like the MVP in the NBA or the NFL, the team has to be good which is why you see the perennial power programs with more AA selections but they will give it to a player not on a good team is deemed worthy. Just look at the past selections.

All Long Island by Newsday is typically for the players that perform the best in the playoffs in front of Newdsay with the other obvious players they know are unanimous AA so it doesn't necessarily show the 'top' players/top player on a team. Still a nice achievement.

I liked the BOTC All Long island Teams as they had all of the 2019 HS All Amerigans on there which just came out today and so they certainly got it right and with players from all over named on their individual success for the season and careers. It resembled the NCAA All Americans with the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Team and Honorable Mention by each position..

Either way, nothing is going to be perfect and it's nice to see players getting recognized by multiple platforms

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

It’s definitely a flawed process. If you don’t play for the “right” HS/club your chances of getting an award are diminished, regardless of talent level. It’s like this every year, some that get top awards absolutely deserve it, some are certainly more questionable. I don’t see change coming anytime soon. Stinks for the deserving kids whose coaches aren’t part of the Good Ole Boys/Girls club.

US Lacrosse AA selection is the worst. All-County (your coach picks) not political except within your HS. All-County is more socialistic and hurts strong players from programs with a lot of talent. Very good players from teams with a lot of depth do not make it. Good players from weak programs make it even if they are not as strong as many players from programs with a lot of depth who do not make it. Honorable mention AA & and AC were created to give deserving players something because they were not receiving awards due to the situation explained above. All Division/League again is up to your coach and is political within your district. All Long Island is selected by Newsday and is better than the US Lacrosse AA because they select more players and the coaches are not involved so although they can lobby Newsday if they want they can not cut deals behind closed doors. Under Armour is primarily selected by Inside Lacrosse and for the most part follows the IL Player Rankings. UA appears to be based on a body of work on the club circuit over a few years. UA at least watches the top club teams (which have the top players) compete against each other which gives a better indication than watching a non competitive HS game.

Congratulations to all of the players who receive accolades. For the strong players that were overlooked let it motivate them. Go prove everybody wrong.

BTW, I do not have a better solution. There are way too many teams, there is way too much deviation of talent from team to team, there are not enough competitive teams etc... I think most of the people involved do the best they can although I am sure there are some bad apples in the bunch.

Once again, congratulations to all who were honored.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

It’s definitely a flawed process. If you don’t play for the “right” HS/club your chances of getting an award are diminished, regardless of talent level. It’s like this every year, some that get top awards absolutely deserve it, some are certainly more questionable. I don’t see change coming anytime soon. Stinks for the deserving kids whose coaches aren’t part of the Good Ole Boys/Girls club.

True that all the top clubs and Schools are well represented, deservingly so. But there is also a phenomenon of parents who have kids playing outside of this competitive grouping, who have over hyped views of their kids. Take any of the top kids from any of the top club teams, they look average on that team. Put them on a club you consider “the wrong club” and they look like gods gift to lacrosse. Same exact thing with “the wrong school” . In fact I would say the exact opposite of what you are saying is true, kids on “wrong teams” stand out alone and absolutely get recognition that a much more talented girl on a stacked team may never get because there are ten kids just as good.

Hmmm, im not sure about that, and correct me if I'm wrong but the teams with the most wins get the most awards. I don't know this years results but I assume Northport, ESM and BBP had the most All County / All League Awards as a team for their respective division. if you have a single really good player on a bottom rung team there is a good chance that that player will never be an All County Selection because her team doesn't win.

Conversely, an OK kid on a top team may look better than they actually are. They may be benefiting from the really good players on their team. Take them off a top team and they put them on a lower team with little to no support and they might not be able to hold their own let alone carry a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

Is the list of award winners made public? (web link) or is it permissible to post here? i would like to see the list of winners.

It’s definitely a flawed process. If you don’t play for the “right” HS/club your chances of getting an award are diminished, regardless of talent level. It’s like this every year, some that get top awards absolutely deserve it, some are certainly more questionable. I don’t see change coming anytime soon. Stinks for the deserving kids whose coaches aren’t part of the Good Ole Boys/Girls club.

US Lacrosse AA selection is the worst. All-County (your coach picks) not political except within your HS. All-County is more socialistic and hurts strong players from programs with a lot of talent. Very good players from teams with a lot of depth do not make it. Good players from weak programs make it even if they are not as strong as many players from programs with a lot of depth who do not make it. Honorable mention AA & and AC were created to give deserving players something because they were not receiving awards due to the situation explained above. All Division/League again is up to your coach and is political within your district. All Long Island is selected by Newsday and is better than the US Lacrosse AA because they select more players and the coaches are not involved so although they can lobby Newsday if they want they can not cut deals behind closed doors. Under Armour is primarily selected by Inside Lacrosse and for the most part follows the IL Player Rankings. UA appears to be based on a body of work on the club circuit over a few years. UA at least watches the top club teams (which have the top players) compete against each other which gives a better indication than watching a non competitive HS game.

Congratulations to all of the players who receive accolades. For the strong players that were overlooked let it motivate them. Go prove everybody wrong.

BTW, I do not have a better solution. There are way too many teams, there is way too much deviation of talent from team to team, there are not enough competitive teams etc... I think most of the people involved do the best they can although I am sure there are some bad apples in the bunch.

Once again, congratulations to all who were honored.

Gibberish, How is US lacrosse AA the worst , its no longer picked by a committee but I believe every coach gets a vote . No my kid is not an AA but I am not bitter about it as its an anonymous vote so all the back channel deals are useless at this point. The honorable mention stuff is a joke ,they are made up awards so everyone gets a trophy. The all-county awards are the most political of any and the kids that have parents that kiss the coaches butt in some districts get the award while you have coaches trading awards with other coaches etc.
The BOC all long island teams seem to have gotten the correct players but maybe not the correct kids on teams ,example is 2x AA still on U19 and team 2 , a few others also.( just my opinion)

BOTC did not get it right. They did not include all of the All Americans and the underclass AA from last year. Kids who were at the top of their game and carrying teams through playoffs were left off this list. Where is their info coming from? Yes, stronger clubs and coaches who speak out get their girls recognized more. You need talent but coaching makes a big difference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTC did not get it right. They did not include all of the All Americans and the underclass AA from last year. Kids who were at the top of their game and carrying teams through playoffs were left off this list. Where is their info coming from? Yes, stronger clubs and coaches who speak out get their girls recognized more. You need talent but coaching makes a big difference.

First off , maybe they disagree w the picks for AA and there is no such thing as “under class AA”. Tell me what school had a kid carrying he team thru the playoffs that was left off the list . There are only so many spots , the Honorable mention AA thing is ridiculous .

Thoughts on Under Armour tryouts yesterday?

they really need to come up with a better way to have evaluators that are not partial.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Under Armour tryouts yesterday?

same as last year...
scrimmage,
take advantage of your opportunities,
hope someone passes you the ball,
It was a beautiful day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Under Armour tryouts yesterday?

Since most YJA are already committed, it will be all YJB girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Under Armour tryouts yesterday?

Since most YJA are already committed, it will be all YJB girls.

Why are you such a troll. Your comment just shows a complete lack of knowledge or a purposeful attempt at being ignorant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Under Armour tryouts yesterday?

Since most YJA are already committed, it will be all YJB girls.

Why are you such a troll. Your comment just shows a complete lack of knowledge or a purposeful attempt at being ignorant.

People can troll and or stir the pot all that they want but the Under Armour Underclass tournament is the most competitive HS event there is. There are some (not many) very good players from LI that will not make it but every player that does make one of the two teams is legit. Go bash something else, UA is an incredible event and although the tryouts are not perfect UA does a fantastic job at selecting the teams. Yes, my older daughter made the Long Island Team and played in the tournament and it was the most competitive HS lacrosse that she ever played in. Haters are going to hate but in our experience the selection process is fair and the results validated the process (Yes the girls won). IMHO there were another 5 - 10 girls that could have been selected but not much more than that. Under Armour should consider two team from Long Island, one Nassau and one Suffolk. Each team would be a little less competitive but there would be less chance of leaving any of the top players out.

Why are there only 18 girls on the LI Highlight team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are there only 18 girls on the LI Highlight team?

They screwed up and left kids off the roster, check back later for the full roster. I was told if you were a walk up registration and made the team somehow you did not get listed although you still received the email that you were selected.

It’s seems the younger team is all Suffolk county???? Not one girl from GC or Manhasset. What is the world coming to??? Lol. #631represent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are there only 18 girls on the LI Highlight team?

They screwed up and left kids off the roster, check back later for the full roster. I was told if you were a walk up registration and made the team somehow you did not get listed although you still received the email that you were selected.

funny story

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

I agree, call it something else. Now there are players claiming to be US Lacrosse AA when they are not.

What does everyone think about the call-back Under Armour Academy? Is it a money grab or worth it? Does it interfere with fall sport playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with B. chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

I agree, call it something else. Now there are players claiming to be US Lacrosse AA when they are not.

Honorable Mention All American is a legit recognition/award. Not All players nominated receive it and the board has to vote for the players. Additionally, you have to have earned All County the year prior - an award typically for the next best players although some schools who are good certainly get more but that's just the nature of the beast.

So for anyone to say HM All American is not real has no clue what they are talking about. IDK who got it for the girls in Suffolk but only 6 boys in Nassau earned this award and look at that list - the 9 boys lacrosse Nassau County All Americans plus the 6 honorable mention all American players are all legit players who are D1 prospects and have the stars to back it up. The sheer fact that only 15 players received those awards prove how difficult it is to get. I know the 8 Suffolk County Girls Lacrosse All Americans are ALL phenomenal players. You must be a parent of someone who did not receive it....and with that said, of course there are players you can lobby for that you think deserved it but that's just like every other sport (i.e. Klay Thompson not getting 3rd Team All NBA....should he have gotten it, maybe but everyone in front of him were all legit)

US lacrosse doesn't host the players on their site but they give you the official certificate just like the All Americans get.

With other media publications, it will be nice to see who gets what and how close they are . The BOTC All Long island tesms (1st -3rd team) also had 7/8 Suffolk County All Americans listed & I know 3 Nassau County All Americans on their list as I did not see all of the girls in Nassau who got it. So them & USA Today had a handful of the Suffolk AA's as the top 25 players in the Country. Seems legit to me unles you think they are all in cahoots with each other..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does everyone think about the call-back Under Armour Academy? Is it a money grab or worth it? Does it interfere with fall sport playoffs?

Total money grab. Save your money!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

I agree, call it something else. Now there are players claiming to be US Lacrosse AA when they are not.

If there are players listing themselves as US lacrosse honorable mention AA then they are lying and it could create problems , its the same as lying on a resume. I would think that US lacrosse may end up having something to say about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does everyone think about the call-back Under Armour Academy? Is it a money grab or worth it? Does it interfere with fall sport playoffs?

Total money grab. Save your money!

How do you even know that.. The event has never been held before, it's invitation only and there isn't a price attached to the event yet.....maybe its free??
will it interfere with Fall sports.. Who knows.. it is a Friday and Saturday 11/8 & 11/9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does everyone think about the call-back Under Armour Academy? Is it a money grab or worth it? Does it interfere with fall sport playoffs?

Total money grab. Save your money!

How do you even know that.. The event has never been held before, it's invitation only and there isn't a price attached to the event yet.....maybe its free??
will it interfere with Fall sports.. Who knows.. it is a Friday and Saturday 11/8 & 11/9

Not sure if it’s a total money grab but it is scheduled for the same weekend as the Mid Atlantic Showcase. Most teams/players will be at the tournament so AU might want to reschedule. The Call-Back games do not have the clout to pull players from their regular teams like the regular UA games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with B. chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

I agree, call it something else. Now there are players claiming to be US Lacrosse AA when they are not.

Honorable Mention All American is a legit recognition/award. Not All players nominated receive it and the board has to vote for the players. Additionally, you have to have earned All County the year prior - an award typically for the next best players although some schools who are good certainly get more but that's just the nature of the beast.

So for anyone to say HM All American is not real has no clue what they are talking about. IDK who got it for the girls in Suffolk but only 6 boys in Nassau earned this award and look at that list - the 9 boys lacrosse Nassau County All Americans plus the 6 honorable mention all American players are all legit players who are D1 prospects and have the stars to back it up. The sheer fact that only 15 players received those awards prove how difficult it is to get. I know the 8 Suffolk County Girls Lacrosse All Americans are ALL phenomenal players. You must be a parent of someone who did not receive it....and with that said, of course there are players you can lobby for that you think deserved it but that's just like every other sport (i.e. Klay Thompson not getting 3rd Team All NBA....should he have gotten it, maybe but everyone in front of him were all legit)

US lacrosse doesn't host the players on their site but they give you the official certificate just like the All Americans get.

With other media publications, it will be nice to see who gets what and how close they are . The BOTC All Long island tesms (1st -3rd team) also had 7/8 Suffolk County All Americans listed & I know 3 Nassau County All Americans on their list as I did not see all of the girls in Nassau who got it. So them & USA Today had a handful of the Suffolk AA's as the top 25 players in the Country. Seems legit to me unles you think they are all in cahoots with each other..

Wrong assumption, my daughter is a us lacrosse all american. Twice actually, and her name is listed on website for both years. I'm not suggesting the players don't legitimately deserve to be honored and recognized, but call it something else. I have never heard of another area naming AA HM. There is nothing on the US Lacrosse website about it. Correct me if I'm wrong by posting a link that shows it is a real US Lacrosse award, or that other regions do this. Or is this something secret and special US Lacrosse does only for Long Island with an "official" certificate? Does Baltimore award AA HM?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with B. chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

I agree, call it something else. Now there are players claiming to be US Lacrosse AA when they are not.

Honorable Mention All American is a legit recognition/award. Not All players nominated receive it and the board has to vote for the players. Additionally, you have to have earned All County the year prior - an award typically for the next best players although some schools who are good certainly get more but that's just the nature of the beast.

So for anyone to say HM All American is not real has no clue what they are talking about. IDK who got it for the girls in Suffolk but only 6 boys in Nassau earned this award and look at that list - the 9 boys lacrosse Nassau County All Americans plus the 6 honorable mention all American players are all legit players who are D1 prospects and have the stars to back it up. The sheer fact that only 15 players received those awards prove how difficult it is to get. I know the 8 Suffolk County Girls Lacrosse All Americans are ALL phenomenal players. You must be a parent of someone who did not receive it....and with that said, of course there are players you can lobby for that you think deserved it but that's just like every other sport (i.e. Klay Thompson not getting 3rd Team All NBA....should he have gotten it, maybe but everyone in front of him were all legit)

US lacrosse doesn't host the players on their site but they give you the official certificate just like the All Americans get.

With other media publications, it will be nice to see who gets what and how close they are . The BOTC All Long island tesms (1st -3rd team) also had 7/8 Suffolk County All Americans listed & I know 3 Nassau County All Americans on their list as I did not see all of the girls in Nassau who got it. So them & USA Today had a handful of the Suffolk AA's as the top 25 players in the Country. Seems legit to me unles you think they are all in cahoots with each other..

You are clueless . US lacrosse does not recognize HR and does not send a certificate . Section xi handed them out like they were candy , it’s a joke .Read US Lacrosse awards , it’s a made up award . I hope all the players put it on their UA bio so they can be told to stop doing it as it’s a lie .

HM is the same as if BOTC decided to hand out AA awards . Sure it’s fun to be named but it means nothing , in section xi girls there are only 8 US Lacrosse AA and that’s it . Honestly it’s the most prestigious award of them all in my opinion as it’s selected by coaches that actually know you . UA senior game selection seems like a lot of politics but still a great honor , just not sure how the selection committee could possibly know each kid . What they should do is make a special award for those kids who they feel were at the top of the all division players and call it honorable mention all county , oh wait they already made up that nonsense .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HM is the same as if BOTC decided to hand out AA awards . Sure it’s fun to be named but it means nothing , in section xi girls there are only 8 US Lacrosse AA and that’s it . Honestly it’s the most prestigious award of them all in my opinion as it’s selected by coaches that actually know you . UA senior game selection seems like a lot of politics but still a great honor , just not sure how the selection committee could possibly know each kid . What they should do is make a special award for those kids who they feel were at the top of the all division players and call it honorable mention all county , oh wait they already made up that nonsense .

Relax mom HS AA don’t mean very much. The vast majority will disappear in college. Talk to me when your daughter is a D1 AA otherwise please pipe down. It’s nice to receive awards but many of them have political strings tied to them, from your posts your daughter seems to be one of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HM is the same as if BOTC decided to hand out AA awards . Sure it’s fun to be named but it means nothing , in section xi girls there are only 8 US Lacrosse AA and that’s it . Honestly it’s the most prestigious award of them all in my opinion as it’s selected by coaches that actually know you . UA senior game selection seems like a lot of politics but still a great honor , just not sure how the selection committee could possibly know each kid . What they should do is make a special award for those kids who they feel were at the top of the all division players and call it honorable mention all county , oh wait they already made up that nonsense .

Relax mom HS AA don’t mean very much. The vast majority will disappear in college. Talk to me when your daughter is a D1 AA otherwise please pipe down. It’s nice to receive awards but many of them have political strings tied to them, from your posts your daughter seems to be one of them.

Why so angry?

Congratulations to all who receive accolades. You are correct when you say many of the US Lacrosse All-Americans will disappear in college (there are like 500 of them). However, the majority of players who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island (Nassau, Suffolk, Private) do not disappear in college.

All-League/Division, All-County are to some extent divided up by team so unfortunately some very strong players on very strong / deep teams may not receive the award even though they may in fact be stronger than may players who do receive the award.

Honorable Mention AA was created because US Lacrosse only gives a limited number of All-Amercan spots to long Island. There are many players on Long Island who are stronger than many players from other parts of the country (who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans). The coaches created the HM AA to recognize additional players.

On Long Island, US Lacrosse AA is a nice honor but it is very political. Most years the vast majority of players who receive the award are very deserving but there are always a few players who are just as deserving if not more deserving but do not have the political connections (coaches, club etc...) to be named AA.

Under Armour has proven to be the bench mark and many of the players from Long Island who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans have also been named Under Armour Senior All-Americans. US Lacrosse names hundreds of AA's while Under Armour selects just 44 players.

All of the accolades are nice but if you really want to know where your daughter stands just look at what colleges made offers (not what schools you reached out to and harassed, not what schools you talked to or went to their camp, not the schools that sent a letter etc...) The schools that reached out and said we want you to come to XYZ University and here is what we are willing to do. The Schools that actually made real offers. If Top 10 programs were making offers the player is legit. It all shakes out.

Congratulations again to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HM is the same as if BOTC decided to hand out AA awards . Sure it’s fun to be named but it means nothing , in section xi girls there are only 8 US Lacrosse AA and that’s it . Honestly it’s the most prestigious award of them all in my opinion as it’s selected by coaches that actually know you . UA senior game selection seems like a lot of politics but still a great honor , just not sure how the selection committee could possibly know each kid . What they should do is make a special award for those kids who they feel were at the top of the all division players and call it honorable mention all county , oh wait they already made up that nonsense .

Relax mom HS AA don’t mean very much. The vast majority will disappear in college. Talk to me when your daughter is a D1 AA otherwise please pipe down. It’s nice to receive awards but many of them have political strings tied to them, from your posts your daughter seems to be one of them.

Why so angry?

Congratulations to all who receive accolades. You are correct when you say many of the US Lacrosse All-Americans will disappear in college (there are like 500 of them). However, the majority of players who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island (Nassau, Suffolk, Private) do not disappear in college.

All-League/Division, All-County are to some extent divided up by team so unfortunately some very strong players on very strong / deep teams may not receive the award even though they may in fact be stronger than may players who do receive the award.

Honorable Mention AA was created because US Lacrosse only gives a limited number of All-Amercan spots to long Island. There are many players on Long Island who are stronger than many players from other parts of the country (who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans). The coaches created the HM AA to recognize additional players.

On Long Island, US Lacrosse AA is a nice honor but it is very political. Most years the vast majority of players who receive the award are very deserving but there are always a few players who are just as deserving if not more deserving but do not have the political connections (coaches, club etc...) to be named AA.

Under Armour has proven to be the bench mark and many of the players from Long Island who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans have also been named Under Armour Senior All-Americans. US Lacrosse names hundreds of AA's while Under Armour selects just 44 players.

All of the accolades are nice but if you really want to know where your daughter stands just look at what colleges made offers (not what schools you reached out to and harassed, not what schools you talked to or went to their camp, not the schools that sent a letter etc...) The schools that reached out and said we want you to come to XYZ University and here is what we are willing to do. The Schools that actually made real offers. If Top 10 programs were making offers the player is legit. It all shakes out.

Congratulations again to all.

Not angry just being realistic. Be happy that your daughter had a good HS career. I’ve been through this before and have a 2x all American HS player who is now in college where you get to see if your kid can actually play lacrosse. It’s a nice accolade but really that’s it. Most of the other AAs named along side barely play in college. There are also a few who excel. The majority of AAs are interchangeable with the All Country winners. Probably 2/8 are the real deal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HM is the same as if BOTC decided to hand out AA awards . Sure it’s fun to be named but it means nothing , in section xi girls there are only 8 US Lacrosse AA and that’s it . Honestly it’s the most prestigious award of them all in my opinion as it’s selected by coaches that actually know you . UA senior game selection seems like a lot of politics but still a great honor , just not sure how the selection committee could possibly know each kid . What they should do is make a special award for those kids who they feel were at the top of the all division players and call it honorable mention all county , oh wait they already made up that nonsense .

Relax mom HS AA don’t mean very much. The vast majority will disappear in college. Talk to me when your daughter is a D1 AA otherwise please pipe down. It’s nice to receive awards but many of them have political strings tied to them, from your posts your daughter seems to be one of them.

Why so angry?

Congratulations to all who receive accolades. You are correct when you say many of the US Lacrosse All-Americans will disappear in college (there are like 500 of them). However, the majority of players who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island (Nassau, Suffolk, Private) do not disappear in college.

All-League/Division, All-County are to some extent divided up by team so unfortunately some very strong players on very strong / deep teams may not receive the award even though they may in fact be stronger than may players who do receive the award.

Honorable Mention AA was created because US Lacrosse only gives a limited number of All-Amercan spots to long Island. There are many players on Long Island who are stronger than many players from other parts of the country (who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans). The coaches created the HM AA to recognize additional players.

On Long Island, US Lacrosse AA is a nice honor but it is very political. Most years the vast majority of players who receive the award are very deserving but there are always a few players who are just as deserving if not more deserving but do not have the political connections (coaches, club etc...) to be named AA.

Under Armour has proven to be the bench mark and many of the players from Long Island who are named US Lacrosse All-Americans have also been named Under Armour Senior All-Americans. US Lacrosse names hundreds of AA's while Under Armour selects just 44 players.

All of the accolades are nice but if you really want to know where your daughter stands just look at what colleges made offers (not what schools you reached out to and harassed, not what schools you talked to or went to their camp, not the schools that sent a letter etc...) The schools that reached out and said we want you to come to XYZ University and here is what we are willing to do. The Schools that actually made real offers. If Top 10 programs were making offers the player is legit. It all shakes out.

Congratulations again to all.

Not angry just being realistic. Be happy that your daughter had a good HS career. I’ve been through this before and have a 2x all American HS player who is now in college where you get to see if your kid can actually play lacrosse. It’s a nice accolade but really that’s it. Most of the other AAs named along side barely play in college. There are also a few who excel. The majority of AAs are interchangeable with the All Country winners. Probably 2/8 are the real deal.

Two out of eight might be a bit low and I do not agree with your statement "The majority of AAs are interchangeable with the All Country winners." The reality is that each grad year there are 10 - 12 legit high end players on Long Island (that number might be down this year). These are the players that go on to contribute and play major roles for the top college programs. We are all very fortunate that our daughters can participate in a sport that they love and use that sport to help them get into a good college and maybe even help pay some of the tuition. The fact that so many players from Long Island go on to play Division I Lacrosse has given many of us a somewhat false or inflated opinion of what type of athlete our kids are.

I just looked it up and of the 60 or so D1 AA , 5 were not US lacrosse AA in high school so it seems like a better predictor than you are letting on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

I agree, call it something else. Now there are players claiming to be US Lacrosse AA when they are not.

If there are players listing themselves as US lacrosse honorable mention AA then they are lying and it could create problems , its the same as lying on a resume. I would think that US lacrosse may end up having something to say about it.

How awful is your life if you truly believe some 18 year old kid who was designated something is lying. And what “problem “ will they have? How about none. Get over yourself.

I am over all completely embarrassed by what this sport has become. Its a perversion of what it should be in every way. I have 3 kids in travel, and I can say outside of college, I have seen it all. Parents fighting on the sideline in boys games, parents rooting for others to fail in girls games, coaches choosing to give playing time preference to kids they train "privately", Its as bad as it gets and its all now a regular thing. I'm disgusted with myself and most of the people that I have met along the way, in that at the end of it all, every relationship has been based on how much money we pay, and how good is your kid.

We created this. We gave a tremendous amount of power to youth coaches and club team owners - who are held to very little standards and ethical considerations, who operate in the shadows and without real scrutiny. This youth lacrosse platform is in no way positive - it is a money grab at every turn, and we as parents have enabled it.

"How awful is your life if you truly believe some 18 year old kid who was designated something is lying. And what “problem “ will they have? How about none. Get over yourself."

You must be a little slow. US Lacrosse does not hand out Honorable mention awards , it is a made up award from section 8 and section xi. For those layers to say they are US lacrosse AA is a lie and it diminishes the award to those current and past players who received the actual award. US lacrosse will not want any other group telling players they received US lacrosse AA honors when they have no say in how many and how they are awarded . What problem will they have, I have no idea but with the college admissions scandals going on now putting fictitious info on your bio or application might create some issues .My life is fine , my daughter was an actual 2x US lacrosse AA and is proud of it , almost as proud as she is of graduation from an IVY .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked it up and of the 60 or so D1 AA , 5 were not US lacrosse AA in high school so it seems like a better predictor than you are letting on

I am not sure which post you are referencing but there are three teams totaling 48 Division I All-Americans. There are at least 350 US Lacrosse HS All-Americans each year. I will take you at you word when you say that only five of the 48 were not HS AA's but I would not say that being named HS AA is a predictor or indicator of anything. If this year 43 of 48 Division I All-American were also US Lacrosse HS All-Americans that would tell us that approximately 1,357 former HS AA's from the HS graduating classes of 2018, 2017, 2016 and 2015 did not go on to become Division I All-Americans. ; )

However, we are talking about Long Island...

13 of the 48 DI AA's are from Long Island (pretty good) and I am pretty sure that all 13 were US Lacrosse All-Americans and most likely Under Armor All-Americans as well. If I am not mistaken there are 19 US Lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island each year (9 - Nassau, 8 - Suffolk, 2 - Private). Under Armour probably selects 10 or so from Long Island each year. It is possible that 63 out of 76 former HS AA's from LI "were not" D1 AA's this year. Some of those HS AA's who were underclassmen this year might become a DI AA down the road as the majority of AA's were upperclassmen.

Here are some numbers / facts...

If you are looking for an indicator as to which Long Island players have the best chance to become an All-American in college the odds are with the players who go to the top college programs.

36 of the 48 All-Americans played for teams that finished the year ranked in the Top 10.
45 of the 48 All-Americans played for teams that finished the year ranked in the Top 20.
1 played for Duke which finished the year ranked 21.
1 played for Hopkins which finished the year ranked 22.
1 played for Towson which was not ranked.

1 Graduate Student.
23 Seniors
13 Juniors
10 Sophomores
1 Freshman

Looking at these numbers it would stand to reason that the top players in HS are the ones who receive major recognition / accolades and are recruited by and choose to attend the schools that are consistently ranked in the Top 10 - 20. Those Top 10 - 20 schools always seem to be the same and the players they recruit prove to be the top players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"How awful is your life if you truly believe some 18 year old kid who was designated something is lying. And what “problem “ will they have? How about none. Get over yourself."

You must be a little slow. US Lacrosse does not hand out Honorable mention awards , it is a made up award from section 8 and section xi. For those layers to say they are US lacrosse AA is a lie and it diminishes the award to those current and past players who received the actual award. US lacrosse will not want any other group telling players they received US lacrosse AA honors when they have no say in how many and how they are awarded . What problem will they have, I have no idea but with the college admissions scandals going on now putting fictitious info on your bio or application might create some issues .My life is fine , my daughter was an actual 2x US lacrosse AA and is proud of it , almost as proud as she is of graduation from an IVY .

Sure pal, I'm a little slow, and you just posted a fictitious account of your "daughter". I'll take my slow over your perverse fantasy life and infatuation with "lies" and "problems". lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"How awful is your life if you truly believe some 18 year old kid who was designated something is lying. And what “problem “ will they have? How about none. Get over yourself."

You must be a little slow. US Lacrosse does not hand out Honorable mention awards , it is a made up award from section 8 and section xi. For those layers to say they are US lacrosse AA is a lie and it diminishes the award to those current and past players who received the actual award. US lacrosse will not want any other group telling players they received US lacrosse AA honors when they have no say in how many and how they are awarded . What problem will they have, I have no idea but with the college admissions scandals going on now putting fictitious info on your bio or application might create some issues .My life is fine , my daughter was an actual 2x US lacrosse AA and is proud of it , almost as proud as she is of graduation from an IVY .

Sure pal, I'm a little slow, and you just posted a fictitious account of your "daughter". I'll take my slow over your perverse fantasy life and infatuation with "lies" and "problems". lost.

My guess is because you are slow you can't tell fact from fiction or for that matter how much being slow impacts your reasoning. Sad. There were 19 US lacrosse AA young women on LI this year and that is it. Sorry if your kid did not get one but maybe you can have your school make u some fake AA awards .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"How awful is your life if you truly believe some 18 year old kid who was designated something is lying. And what “problem “ will they have? How about none. Get over yourself."

You must be a little slow. US Lacrosse does not hand out Honorable mention awards , it is a made up award from section 8 and section xi. For those layers to say they are US lacrosse AA is a lie and it diminishes the award to those current and past players who received the actual award. US lacrosse will not want any other group telling players they received US lacrosse AA honors when they have no say in how many and how they are awarded . What problem will they have, I have no idea but with the college admissions scandals going on now putting fictitious info on your bio or application might create some issues .My life is fine , my daughter was an actual 2x US lacrosse AA and is proud of it , almost as proud as she is of graduation from an IVY .

Sure pal, I'm a little slow, and you just posted a fictitious account of your "daughter". I'll take my slow over your perverse fantasy life and infatuation with "lies" and "problems". lost.

My guess is because you are slow you can't tell fact from fiction or for that matter how much being slow impacts your reasoning. Sad. There were 19 US lacrosse AA young women on LI this year and that is it. Sorry if your kid did not get one but maybe you can have your school make u some fake AA awards .

Don't have a kid nearly old enough, sorry if you need to boost your self image by creating a fake child. HAHAHAHAHAHA, keep at it mom, we're all soooo impressed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am over all completely embarrassed by what this sport has become. Its a perversion of what it should be in every way. I have 3 kids in travel, and I can say outside of college, I have seen it all. Parents fighting on the sideline in boys games, parents rooting for others to fail in girls games, coaches choosing to give playing time preference to kids they train "privately", Its as bad as it gets and its all now a regular thing. I'm disgusted with myself and most of the people that I have met along the way, in that at the end of it all, every relationship has been based on how much money we pay, and how good is your kid.

We created this. We gave a tremendous amount of power to youth coaches and club team owners - who are held to very little standards and ethical considerations, who operate in the shadows and without real scrutiny. This youth lacrosse platform is in no way positive - it is a money grab at every turn, and we as parents have enabled it.

No doubt there is a toxic environment associated with this sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"How awful is your life if you truly believe some 18 year old kid who was designated something is lying. And what “problem “ will they have? How about none. Get over yourself."

You must be a little slow. US Lacrosse does not hand out Honorable mention awards , it is a made up award from section 8 and section xi. For those layers to say they are US lacrosse AA is a lie and it diminishes the award to those current and past players who received the actual award. US lacrosse will not want any other group telling players they received US lacrosse AA honors when they have no say in how many and how they are awarded . What problem will they have, I have no idea but with the college admissions scandals going on now putting fictitious info on your bio or application might create some issues .My life is fine , my daughter was an actual 2x US lacrosse AA and is proud of it , almost as proud as she is of graduation from an IVY .

Sure pal, I'm a little slow, and you just posted a fictitious account of your "daughter". I'll take my slow over your perverse fantasy life and infatuation with "lies" and "problems". lost.

My guess is because you are slow you can't tell fact from fiction or for that matter how much being slow impacts your reasoning. Sad. There were 19 US lacrosse AA young women on LI this year and that is it. Sorry if your kid did not get one but maybe you can have your school make u some fake AA awards .

Don't have a kid nearly old enough, sorry if you need to boost your self image by creating a fake child. HAHAHAHAHAHA, keep at it mom, we're all soooo impressed

What's really sad is you obviously have low expectations for your own kid so you project that doubt onto other kids making it so you can't possibly believe others can have that kind of success. I guess half your kids genes come from the "slow" pool so it makes sense. So you know those kids were not designated US Lacrosse AA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"How awful is your life if you truly believe some 18 year old kid who was designated something is lying. And what “problem “ will they have? How about none. Get over yourself."

You must be a little slow. US Lacrosse does not hand out Honorable mention awards , it is a made up award from section 8 and section xi. For those layers to say they are US lacrosse AA is a lie and it diminishes the award to those current and past players who received the actual award. US lacrosse will not want any other group telling players they received US lacrosse AA honors when they have no say in how many and how they are awarded . What problem will they have, I have no idea but with the college admissions scandals going on now putting fictitious info on your bio or application might create some issues .My life is fine , my daughter was an actual 2x US lacrosse AA and is proud of it , almost as proud as she is of graduation from an IVY .

Sure pal, I'm a little slow, and you just posted a fictitious account of your "daughter". I'll take my slow over your perverse fantasy life and infatuation with "lies" and "problems". lost.

My guess is because you are slow you can't tell fact from fiction or for that matter how much being slow impacts your reasoning. Sad. There were 19 US lacrosse AA young women on LI this year and that is it. Sorry if your kid did not get one but maybe you can have your school make u some fake AA awards .

Don't have a kid nearly old enough, sorry if you need to boost your self image by creating a fake child. HAHAHAHAHAHA, keep at it mom, we're all soooo impressed

What's really sad is you obviously have low expectations for your own kid so you project that doubt onto other kids making it so you can't possibly believe others can have that kind of success. I guess half your kids genes come from the "slow" pool so it makes sense. So you know those kids were not designated US Lacrosse AA.

Keep it up fictitious daughter mom. No one believes your bs take. My daughter is the school president a world class ballerina and scored a 1600 on the SAT. She got a full ride to Harvard and is playing ice hockey and lacrosse. See mine is better than yours!!!! Hahahahaha

“Keep it up fictitious daughter mom. No one believes your bs take. My daughter is the school president a world class ballerina and scored a 1600 on the SAT. She got a full ride to Harvard and is playing ice hockey and lacrosse. See mine is better than yours!!!! Hahahahaha”

So sad for your kid that your low expectations will probably result in her underachieving. You are a simpleton who cannot understand that other people have actual achievements they are proud of. Sadly your kid will never even get the made up HM AA award .The Haha tells all on here what a uneducated disaster of a parent you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“Keep it up fictitious daughter mom. No one believes your bs take. My daughter is the school president a world class ballerina and scored a 1600 on the SAT. She got a full ride to Harvard and is playing ice hockey and lacrosse. See mine is better than yours!!!! Hahahahaha”

So sad for your kid that your low expectations will probably result in her underachieving. You are a simpleton who cannot understand that other people have actual achievements they are proud of. Sadly your kid will never even get the made up HM AA award .The Haha tells all on here what a uneducated disaster of a parent you are.

I'll make it simple for you mom, what Ivy does your princess attend? Let's see if you'll back up your boast with some facts. Or is she really just a figment of your imagination. I'll wait.

Soooo, did a little research of the "Ivy's" lacrosse rosters, startlingly enough there SIX, count em, six girls who identify as HMAA. Multiple others who identify as UA AA and one identifies as a LI AA. So I guess these girls all have "problems" that super mom will address with the parents and programs since his filly is a Real AA at an Ivy. Or is she ??? Again, you are a shallow little man who lives through an imaginary girl, if she is real, I feel truly sorry for her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo, did a little research of the "Ivy's" lacrosse rosters, startlingly enough there SIX, count em, six girls who identify as HMAA. Multiple others who identify as UA AA and one identifies as a LI AA. So I guess these girls all have "problems" that super mom will address with the parents and programs since his filly is a Real AA at an Ivy. Or is she ??? Again, you are a shallow little man who lives through an imaginary girl, if she is real, I feel truly sorry for her.

While I agree that this person may be a shallow little man, not sure you actually taking the time to research this separates you from him in any way. Who cares? Yes HM All American is made up on LI. No one else does it. Are the girls lying if they put it on their resume? No. Do you think college coaches base their decisions on someone being HM AA? Of course not. So again, who cares? Do we really need 2 pages of arguing over it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked it up and of the 60 or so D1 AA , 5 were not US lacrosse AA in high school so it seems like a better predictor than you are letting on

I am not sure which post you are referencing but there are three teams totaling 48 Division I All-Americans. There are at least 350 US Lacrosse HS All-Americans each year. I will take you at you word when you say that only five of the 48 were not HS AA's but I would not say that being named HS AA is a predictor or indicator of anything. If this year 43 of 48 Division I All-American were also US Lacrosse HS All-Americans that would tell us that approximately 1,357 former HS AA's from the HS graduating classes of 2018, 2017, 2016 and 2015 did not go on to become Division I All-Americans. ; )

However, we are talking about Long Island...

13 of the 48 DI AA's are from Long Island (pretty good) and I am pretty sure that all 13 were US Lacrosse All-Americans and most likely Under Armor All-Americans as well. If I am not mistaken there are 19 US Lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island each year (9 - Nassau, 8 - Suffolk, 2 - Private). Under Armour probably selects 10 or so from Long Island each year. It is possible that 63 out of 76 former HS AA's from LI "were not" D1 AA's this year. Some of those HS AA's who were underclassmen this year might become a DI AA down the road as the majority of AA's were upperclassmen.

Here are some numbers / facts...

If you are looking for an indicator as to which Long Island players have the best chance to become an All-American in college the odds are with the players who go to the top college programs.

36 of the 48 All-Americans played for teams that finished the year ranked in the Top 10.
45 of the 48 All-Americans played for teams that finished the year ranked in the Top 20.
1 played for Duke which finished the year ranked 21.
1 played for Hopkins which finished the year ranked 22.
1 played for Towson which was not ranked.

1 Graduate Student.
23 Seniors
13 Juniors
10 Sophomores
1 Freshman

Looking at these numbers it would stand to reason that the top players in HS are the ones who receive major recognition / accolades and are recruited by and choose to attend the schools that are consistently ranked in the Top 10 - 20. Those Top 10 - 20 schools always seem to be the same and the players they recruit prove to be the top players.

Didn't Parella from Hofstra make AA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo, did a little research of the "Ivy's" lacrosse rosters, startlingly enough there SIX, count em, six girls who identify as HMAA. Multiple others who identify as UA AA and one identifies as a LI AA. So I guess these girls all have "problems" that super mom will address with the parents and programs since his filly is a Real AA at an Ivy. Or is she ??? Again, you are a shallow little man who lives through an imaginary girl, if she is real, I feel truly sorry for her.

While I agree that this person may be a shallow little man, not sure you actually taking the time to research this separates you from him in any way. Who cares? Yes HM All American is made up on LI. No one else does it. Are the girls lying if they put it on their resume? No. Do you think college coaches base their decisions on someone being HM AA? Of course not. So again, who cares? Do we really need 2 pages of arguing over it?

Agreed, and therefore done with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo, did a little research of the "Ivy's" lacrosse rosters, startlingly enough there SIX, count em, six girls who identify as HMAA. Multiple others who identify as UA AA and one identifies as a LI AA. So I guess these girls all have "problems" that super mom will address with the parents and programs since his filly is a Real AA at an Ivy. Or is she ??? Again, you are a shallow little man who lives through an imaginary girl, if she is real, I feel truly sorry for her.

While I agree that this person may be a shallow little man, not sure you actually taking the time to research this separates you from him in any way. Who cares? Yes HM All American is made up on LI. No one else does it. Are the girls lying if they put it on their resume? No. Do you think college coaches base their decisions on someone being HM AA? Of course not. So again, who cares? Do we really need 2 pages of arguing over it?

The original discussion was that if these HM AA players state they are US lacrosse AA they would be stating something that is untrue and could come back to bite them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo, did a little research of the "Ivy's" lacrosse rosters, startlingly enough there SIX, count em, six girls who identify as HMAA. Multiple others who identify as UA AA and one identifies as a LI AA. So I guess these girls all have "problems" that super mom will address with the parents and programs since his filly is a Real AA at an Ivy. Or is she ??? Again, you are a shallow little man who lives through an imaginary girl, if she is real, I feel truly sorry for her.

A couple things are clear by your posts. First you are clearly uneducated as you cannot even understand the original post. These players can call themselves HMAA all they want as that is correct , what they should not do is call themselves US Lacrosse AA as the original discussion clearly stated. The good news is these Ivy league players who will be doing bigger and better things in the future did not put in their bio false information like you seemed to indicate most likely as they are smart enough to understand the difference. As far as giving you more information on my daughter , no thanks as you are already creepy enough. Get your kid to a tutor , she is going to need it with those genes.

So a person who makes up a fictitious child is not creepy? One who insults girls anonymously as well. Sure whatever you say. As stated done with your weird self. Keep projecting the “ivy All American thing someone will eventually congratulate you on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked it up and of the 60 or so D1 AA , 5 were not US lacrosse AA in high school so it seems like a better predictor than you are letting on

I am not sure which post you are referencing but there are three teams totaling 48 Division I All-Americans. There are at least 350 US Lacrosse HS All-Americans each year. I will take you at you word when you say that only five of the 48 were not HS AA's but I would not say that being named HS AA is a predictor or indicator of anything. If this year 43 of 48 Division I All-American were also US Lacrosse HS All-Americans that would tell us that approximately 1,357 former HS AA's from the HS graduating classes of 2018, 2017, 2016 and 2015 did not go on to become Division I All-Americans. ; )

However, we are talking about Long Island...

13 of the 48 DI AA's are from Long Island (pretty good) and I am pretty sure that all 13 were US Lacrosse All-Americans and most likely Under Armor All-Americans as well. If I am not mistaken there are 19 US Lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island each year (9 - Nassau, 8 - Suffolk, 2 - Private). Under Armour probably selects 10 or so from Long Island each year. It is possible that 63 out of 76 former HS AA's from LI "were not" D1 AA's this year. Some of those HS AA's who were underclassmen this year might become a DI AA down the road as the majority of AA's were upperclassmen.

Here are some numbers / facts...

If you are looking for an indicator as to which Long Island players have the best chance to become an All-American in college the odds are with the players who go to the top college programs.

36 of the 48 All-Americans played for teams that finished the year ranked in the Top 10.
45 of the 48 All-Americans played for teams that finished the year ranked in the Top 20.
1 played for Duke which finished the year ranked 21.
1 played for Hopkins which finished the year ranked 22.
1 played for Towson which was not ranked.

1 Graduate Student.
23 Seniors
13 Juniors
10 Sophomores
1 Freshman

Looking at these numbers it would stand to reason that the top players in HS are the ones who receive major recognition / accolades and are recruited by and choose to attend the schools that are consistently ranked in the Top 10 - 20. Those Top 10 - 20 schools always seem to be the same and the players they recruit prove to be the top players.

Didn't Parella from Hofstra make AA?

Yes, that is correct. Hofstra not Hopkins.

The most accurate barometer of talent is the recruiting game. The top college coaches make offers to the players who they believe are the best. When the top programs are offering I would say that is the highest honor a HS player can earn. All of the awards are nice and I can't fo the life of me understand why some have a problem with the HM AA Award. Congratulations to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a person who makes up a fictitious child is not creepy? One who insults girls anonymously as well. Sure whatever you say. As stated done with your weird self. Keep projecting the “ivy All American thing someone will eventually congratulate you on BOTC.

I thought you were done earlier Einstein and yet you come back for more .What happened no more creepy “ research” because you are now starting to see you are an imbecile. Keep lowering the standards for your daughter and keep telling her it’s just not possible you can go to an Ivy and also be an AA ,as they say those that think they can and those that think they can’t are usually both correct. Don’t forget you are done posting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a person who makes up a fictitious child is not creepy? One who insults girls anonymously as well. Sure whatever you say. As stated done with your weird self. Keep projecting the “ivy All American thing someone will eventually congratulate you on BOTC.

I thought you were done earlier Einstein and yet you come back for more .What happened no more creepy “ research” because you are now starting to see you are an imbecile. Keep lowering the standards for your daughter and keep telling her it’s just not possible you can go to an Ivy and also be an AA ,as they say those that think they can and those that think they can’t are usually both correct. Don’t forget you are done posting.

Unfortunately for me, can't let a nasty mom get the last word. One of my many faults. You don't have an Ivy AA daughter and that is a fact. Say what you will about my daughter, that's par for the course for you. Insulting others kids while waiting breathlessly on BOTC for a "great job with your Ivy AA" is your world not mine. If you get HMAA and scream it at the sky, I say congratulations that's great. You call them liars and indicate it's going to cause problems. Thats the distinct difference between you and I. Care to say different or is all you have is your insults? You're very big on that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a person who makes up a fictitious child is not creepy? One who insults girls anonymously as well. Sure whatever you say. As stated done with your weird self. Keep projecting the “ivy All American thing someone will eventually congratulate you on BOTC.

I thought you were done earlier Einstein and yet you come back for more .What happened no more creepy “ research” because you are now starting to see you are an imbecile. Keep lowering the standards for your daughter and keep telling her it’s just not possible you can go to an Ivy and also be an AA ,as they say those that think they can and those that think they can’t are usually both correct. Don’t forget you are done posting.

Unfortunately for me, can't let a nasty mom get the last word. One of my many faults. You don't have an Ivy AA daughter and that is a fact. Say what you will about my daughter, that's par for the course for you. Insulting others kids while waiting breathlessly on BOTC for a "great job with your Ivy AA" is your world not mine. If you get HMAA and scream it at the sky, I say congratulations that's great. You call them liars and indicate it's going to cause problems. Thats the distinct difference between you and I. Care to say different or is all you have is your insults? You're very big on that.

You are both nuts. : )

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a person who makes up a fictitious child is not creepy? One who insults girls anonymously as well. Sure whatever you say. As stated done with your weird self. Keep projecting the “ivy All American thing someone will eventually congratulate you on BOTC.

I thought you were done earlier Einstein and yet you come back for more .What happened no more creepy “ research” because you are now starting to see you are an imbecile. Keep lowering the standards for your daughter and keep telling her it’s just not possible you can go to an Ivy and also be an AA ,as they say those that think they can and those that think they can’t are usually both correct. Don’t forget you are done posting.

Unfortunately for me, can't let a nasty mom get the last word. One of my many faults. You don't have an Ivy AA daughter and that is a fact. Say what you will about my daughter, that's par for the course for you. Insulting others kids while waiting breathlessly on BOTC for a "great job with your Ivy AA" is your world not mine. If you get HMAA and scream it at the sky, I say congratulations that's great. You call them liars and indicate it's going to cause problems. Thats the distinct difference between you and I. Care to say different or is all you have is your insults? You're very big on that.

You really are a simpleton and obviously have no idea what a fact is. Again the initial posts were that these HMAA are not US lacrosse awards and should not be represented as such. Whats even funnier is you think you are insulting me by saying my daughter cannot be real which in reality every time you repeat that makes me smile at how fortunate I am. I will make it easy for you , this is the last time I will respond to you as there is no arguing with notIntelligent, HMAA is in "fact" a made up award by section 8 and 11 .Those that received it along with those that received All Division, All county HM, All County, Unsung Hero, and any other awards should be proud of themselves but make no mistake they are not US lacrosse awards. There are many differences between you and I but I suspect education is at the top of the list and it is obvious from your writing that you are a misogynist as you think calling me a mom is insulting. Good luck to your kid and let her know she too can be an AA and go to an Ivy if that is what she wants.

So what you braggart! You're a nasty little woman, that's it! Do everyone a favor and crawl back into your hole a#$[ChillLaxin]*e

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a person who makes up a fictitious child is not creepy? One who insults girls anonymously as well. Sure whatever you say. As stated done with your weird self. Keep projecting the “ivy All American thing someone will eventually congratulate you on BOTC.

I thought you were done earlier Einstein and yet you come back for more .What happened no more creepy “ research” because you are now starting to see you are an imbecile. Keep lowering the standards for your daughter and keep telling her it’s just not possible you can go to an Ivy and also be an AA ,as they say those that think they can and those that think they can’t are usually both correct. Don’t forget you are done posting.

Unfortunately for me, can't let a nasty mom get the last word. One of my many faults. You don't have an Ivy AA daughter and that is a fact. Say what you will about my daughter, that's par for the course for you. Insulting others kids while waiting breathlessly on BOTC for a "great job with your Ivy AA" is your world not mine. If you get HMAA and scream it at the sky, I say congratulations that's great. You call them liars and indicate it's going to cause problems. Thats the distinct difference between you and I. Care to say different or is all you have is your insults? You're very big on that.

You really are a simpleton and obviously have no idea what a fact is. Again the initial posts were that these HMAA are not US lacrosse awards and should not be represented as such. Whats even funnier is you think you are insulting me by saying my daughter cannot be real which in reality every time you repeat that makes me smile at how fortunate I am. I will make it easy for you , this is the last time I will respond to you as there is no arguing with notIntelligent, HMAA is in "fact" a made up award by section 8 and 11 .Those that received it along with those that received All Division, All county HM, All County, Unsung Hero, and any other awards should be proud of themselves but make no mistake they are not US lacrosse awards. There are many differences between you and I but I suspect education is at the top of the list and it is obvious from your writing that you are a misogynist as you think calling me a mom is insulting. Good luck to your kid and let her know she too can be an AA and go to an Ivy if that is what she wants.

This entire conversation is ridiculous. Move on!!! None of the girls were “lying” as someone claimed. They were in-fact given a plaque that said All American 2nd or 3rd team. My friends daughter received an AA 2nd team plaque, it does not say “honorable mention” anywhere on it. The girls listed what they received. If you have a problem with the awards that are given call section 11 & 8 and discuss it with them. I’m 100% sure the girls will not receive any backlash or problems down the road for listing an award they got in 10th or 11th grade. They didn’t claim to be AA 1st team. Let’s discuss some actual lacrosse, any good/bad summer lax going on?

“This entire conversation is ridiculous. Move on!!! None of the girls were “lying” as someone claimed. They were in-fact given a plaque that said All American 2nd or 3rd team. My friends daughter received an AA 2nd team plaque, it does not say “honorable mention” anywhere on it. The girls listed what they received. If you have a problem with the awards that are given call section 11 & 8 and discuss it with them. I’m 100% sure the girls will not receive any backlash or problems down the road for listing an award they got in 10th or 11th grade. They didn’t claim to be AA 1st team. Let’s discuss some actual lacrosse, any good/bad summer lax going on?”

Couple issues with this . First I went back and reread all the posts . No one claimed the girls were “lying”. Second there is no US Lacrosse first , second etc team AA , there is only US Lacrosse AA. No one will claim to be US Lacrosse first team AA because there is no such thing. Not sure she still does it but CR used to run a money grab calling two teams of players LI AA at each age group , it’s the same thing that sections 11 ,8 have created . I believe it’s the second year they have done this and in my opinion it does diminish the past accomplishment of AA , you have gone from around 20 players yearly on LI who could claim to be AA to now around 80 . What those plaques do not say is US Lacrosse AA except for the top 20 or so . Don’t want to further this discussion but the guy who says he will not post again on the subject but can not control himself enough to not post has some issues . The mom may be a bit of a braggart but she has been in general correct .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be honest. I am disgruntled after last night's award dinner.
Its the same thing every year. The same coaches patting each other on the back and giving each others kids the top awards.
Riverhead, Coach of the year ! Really, Talk about doing less with more. Two all americans ,and Division 1 recruits at every position including Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State etc. etc etc . 4th place finish and 1 playoff win,, Woopie!

Mt Sinai reign is over yet the coach is still chairman of the AA committee They had a a few too, no surprise there.

First off Riverhead and Sinai have zero actual AA, that honorable mention stuff is essentially just a made up award , not recognized by US lacrosse . Second I have no problem with Bertolone chairing the AA committee as he knows the players as well as anyone. Third the failure of Riverhead as a team has little to do with the coach , its the parents and their attitudes that trickle down to the kids so the chemistry is horrendous, that and honestly the players are listening to the parents more the coach.

Long Island names players US Lacrosse All American Honorable Mention?? That's funny. Hint - it's a made up award when the All Americans are listed on the US Lacrosse website and there's nothing to be found about Honorable Mentions.

There are 8 US Lacrosse AA's. The other 20+ kids received a made up coaches award not recognized by US Lacrosse. Those kids are considered the best All County players in Suffolk. Coaches should have used a different name for the award - something like 1st and 2nd Team Suffolk County. Do not use the term AA at all because it is very misleading. Why is an additional award needed at all. You are All County or you are AA - enough with the "everyone gets a medal" mentality.

I agree, call it something else. Now there are players claiming to be US Lacrosse AA when they are not.

If there are players listing themselves as US lacrosse honorable mention AA then they are lying and it could create problems , its the same as lying on a resume. I would think that US lacrosse may end up having something to say about it.

Well that posts says lying so not sure who is saying differently. And problems too. Mom is a toolbox

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“This entire conversation is ridiculous. Move on!!! None of the girls were “lying” as someone claimed. They were in-fact given a plaque that said All American 2nd or 3rd team. My friends daughter received an AA 2nd team plaque, it does not say “honorable mention” anywhere on it. The girls listed what they received. If you have a problem with the awards that are given call section 11 & 8 and discuss it with them. I’m 100% sure the girls will not receive any backlash or problems down the road for listing an award they got in 10th or 11th grade. They didn’t claim to be AA 1st team. Let’s discuss some actual lacrosse, any good/bad summer lax going on?”

Couple issues with this . First I went back and reread all the posts . No one claimed the girls were “lying”. Second there is no US Lacrosse first , second etc team AA , there is only US Lacrosse AA. No one will claim to be US Lacrosse first team AA because there is no such thing. Not sure she still does it but CR used to run a money grab calling two teams of players LI AA at each age group , it’s the same thing that sections 11 ,8 have created . I believe it’s the second year they have done this and in my opinion it does diminish the past accomplishment of AA , you have gone from around 20 players yearly on LI who could claim to be AA to now around 80 . What those plaques do not say is US Lacrosse AA except for the top 20 or so . Don’t want to further this discussion but the guy who says he will not post again on the subject but can not control himself enough to not post has some issues . The mom may be a bit of a braggart but she has been in general correct .

You didn’t look back far enough, someone did indeed say the girls were lying:

“If there are players listing themselves as US lacrosse honorable mention AA then they are lying and it could create problems , its the same as lying on a resume. I would think that US lacrosse may end up having something to say about it.”

My point was that I highly doubt any of the teenagers that listed it did it as a lie or to be malicious.

Who cares! Worry about your own daughter! Don’t you people have anything better to do than stir up controversy over other people’s accomplishments and accolades? Unbelievable!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“This entire conversation is ridiculous. Move on!!! None of the girls were “lying” as someone claimed. They were in-fact given a plaque that said All American 2nd or 3rd team. My friends daughter received an AA 2nd team plaque, it does not say “honorable mention” anywhere on it. The girls listed what they received. If you have a problem with the awards that are given call section 11 & 8 and discuss it with them. I’m 100% sure the girls will not receive any backlash or problems down the road for listing an award they got in 10th or 11th grade. They didn’t claim to be AA 1st team. Let’s discuss some actual lacrosse, any good/bad summer lax going on?”

Couple issues with this . First I went back and reread all the posts . No one claimed the girls were “lying”. Second there is no US Lacrosse first , second etc team AA , there is only US Lacrosse AA. No one will claim to be US Lacrosse first team AA because there is no such thing. Not sure she still does it but CR used to run a money grab calling two teams of players LI AA at each age group , it’s the same thing that sections 11 ,8 have created . I believe it’s the second year they have done this and in my opinion it does diminish the past accomplishment of AA , you have gone from around 20 players yearly on LI who could claim to be AA to now around 80 . What those plaques do not say is US Lacrosse AA except for the top 20 or so . Don’t want to further this discussion but the guy who says he will not post again on the subject but can not control himself enough to not post has some issues . The mom may be a bit of a braggart but she has been in general correct .

You didn’t look back far enough, someone did indeed say the girls were lying:

“If there are players listing themselves as US lacrosse honorable mention AA then they are lying and it could create problems , its the same as lying on a resume. I would think that US lacrosse may end up having something to say about it.”

My point was that I highly doubt any of the teenagers that listed it did it as a lie or to be malicious.

My point is I am unaware of any players who listed themselves as US lacrosse AA and I don’t think that poster was either so they said if someone does . They did not in fact call anyone a liar .The so called man who keeps going after the mom in his internet tough guy way is obviously a flaccid little man and I guarantee you if mom showed up with hubby he is the type to be a coward, typical uneducated tough guy. I could care less what these players call themselves, I am going to call my kid all universe because that’s what she is to me , lol. If players post false information on a college application , job resume ,college bio it could come back to bite them in the butt even if not done intentionally .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“This entire conversation is ridiculous. Move on!!! None of the girls were “lying” as someone claimed. They were in-fact given a plaque that said All American 2nd or 3rd team. My friends daughter received an AA 2nd team plaque, it does not say “honorable mention” anywhere on it. The girls listed what they received. If you have a problem with the awards that are given call section 11 & 8 and discuss it with them. I’m 100% sure the girls will not receive any backlash or problems down the road for listing an award they got in 10th or 11th grade. They didn’t claim to be AA 1st team. Let’s discuss some actual lacrosse, any good/bad summer lax going on?”

Couple issues with this . First I went back and reread all the posts . No one claimed the girls were “lying”. Second there is no US Lacrosse first , second etc team AA , there is only US Lacrosse AA. No one will claim to be US Lacrosse first team AA because there is no such thing. Not sure she still does it but CR used to run a money grab calling two teams of players LI AA at each age group , it’s the same thing that sections 11 ,8 have created . I believe it’s the second year they have done this and in my opinion it does diminish the past accomplishment of AA , you have gone from around 20 players yearly on LI who could claim to be AA to now around 80 . What those plaques do not say is US Lacrosse AA except for the top 20 or so . Don’t want to further this discussion but the guy who says he will not post again on the subject but can not control himself enough to not post has some issues . The mom may be a bit of a braggart but she has been in general correct .

You didn’t look back far enough, someone did indeed say the girls were lying:

“If there are players listing themselves as US lacrosse honorable mention AA then they are lying and it could create problems , its the same as lying on a resume. I would think that US lacrosse may end up having something to say about it.”

My point was that I highly doubt any of the teenagers that listed it did it as a lie or to be malicious.

My point is I am unaware of any players who listed themselves as US lacrosse AA and I don’t think that poster was either so they said if someone does . They did not in fact call anyone a liar .The so called man who keeps going after the mom in his internet tough guy way is obviously a flaccid little man and I guarantee you if mom showed up with hubby he is the type to be a coward, typical uneducated tough guy. I could care less what these players call themselves, I am going to call my kid all universe because that’s what she is to me , lol. If players post false information on a college application , job resume ,college bio it could come back to bite them in the butt even if not done intentionally .

You’re the same hammerhead with the ivy AA, nice try. hammerhead, called girls liars. Keep at it

Complete and utter clown, posting as a if she didn’t put the original “liar “ issue here. As said earlier, no way she has an ivy AA. The only liar on here is the nasty mom.Exposed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“This entire conversation is ridiculous. Move on!!! None of the girls were “lying” as someone claimed. They were in-fact given a plaque that said All American 2nd or 3rd team. My friends daughter received an AA 2nd team plaque, it does not say “honorable mention” anywhere on it. The girls listed what they received. If you have a problem with the awards that are given call section 11 & 8 and discuss it with them. I’m 100% sure the girls will not receive any backlash or problems down the road for listing an award they got in 10th or 11th grade. They didn’t claim to be AA 1st team. Let’s discuss some actual lacrosse, any good/bad summer lax going on?”

Couple issues with this . First I went back and reread all the posts . No one claimed the girls were “lying”. Second there is no US Lacrosse first , second etc team AA , there is only US Lacrosse AA. No one will claim to be US Lacrosse first team AA because there is no such thing. Not sure she still does it but CR used to run a money grab calling two teams of players LI AA at each age group , it’s the same thing that sections 11 ,8 have created . I believe it’s the second year they have done this and in my opinion it does diminish the past accomplishment of AA , you have gone from around 20 players yearly on LI who could claim to be AA to now around 80 . What those plaques do not say is US Lacrosse AA except for the top 20 or so . Don’t want to further this discussion but the guy who says he will not post again on the subject but can not control himself enough to not post has some issues . The mom may be a bit of a braggart but she has been in general correct .

You didn’t look back far enough, someone did indeed say the girls were lying:

“If there are players listing themselves as US lacrosse honorable mention AA then they are lying and it could create problems , its the same as lying on a resume. I would think that US lacrosse may end up having something to say about it.”

My point was that I highly doubt any of the teenagers that listed it did it as a lie or to be malicious.

My point is I am unaware of any players who listed themselves as US lacrosse AA and I don’t think that poster was either so they said if someone does . They did not in fact call anyone a liar .The so called man who keeps going after the mom in his internet tough guy way is obviously a flaccid little man and I guarantee you if mom showed up with hubby he is the type to be a coward, typical uneducated tough guy. I could care less what these players call themselves, I am going to call my kid all universe because that’s what she is to me , lol. If players post false information on a college application , job resume ,college bio it could come back to bite them in the butt even if not done intentionally .

You’re the same hammerhead with the ivy AA, nice try. hammerhead, called girls liars. Keep at it

None of it matters. The people arguing about it are insane and have lost touch with reality. Congratulations to all who receive awards, accolades and honors. Parents and players should be proud .

This sport is so F&#@!% Up.... Every time there is an award, list, Team, honor or accolade some jealous, bitter delusional parent comes on here and looks for a way to tear down or diminish it. Trying to elevate your daughter by knocking others does not work. HS accolades are nice but they are truly meaningless. They do not help in the recruiting process and they certainly will not help once your daughter is in college. As for lying and or getting in some kind of trouble or having it become an issue... give it a rest already, nobody cares. This (as it always is) is about some parent wanting to believe that their daughter is better than the rest. Same BS every time... All-County..... All-American..... Under Amour All-American.... US Team..... Bla Bla Bla.... Jealous parents go on the attack. Very ugly.
This might be the first time that I have seen the parent of a player who supposedly earned a higher award trying to knock the lower award. Crazy. It all comes out in the wash. The reality is that there are probably between 10 - 20 high caliber players per class each year on Long Island. Approximately 100 girls from Long Island go on to play Division I lacrosse they are not all equal. Be happy our daughters play a sport that offers these incredible opportunities. Very sad that jealousy, bitterness and hate have become so prevalent in this sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Complete and utter clown, posting as a if she didn’t put the original “liar “ issue here. As said earlier, no way she has an ivy AA. The only liar on here is the nasty mom.Exposed

You are wrong again but I suspect you are wrong in most things. I would venture a guess you are divorced and your kid hates you as you obviously hate women. The only exposed is your hatred of someone you feel is a mom and your obviously an internet tough guy who in reality is a flaccid little man. You are obviously clueless when it comes to girls lacrosse and due to your struggle with the English language resort to being a fake tough guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Complete and utter clown, posting as a if she didn’t put the original “liar “ issue here. As said earlier, no way she has an ivy AA. The only liar on here is the nasty mom.Exposed

You are wrong again but I suspect you are wrong in most things. I would venture a guess you are divorced and your kid hates you as you obviously hate women. The only exposed is your hatred of someone you feel is a mom and your obviously an internet tough guy who in reality is a flaccid little man. You are obviously clueless when it comes to girls lacrosse and due to your struggle with the English language resort to being a fake tough guy.

Odd obsess with flaccid men sweetheart. Problem with women? Who called them liars and they would have problems? Who tried to act like a different person in another post? You’re a seriously ill person. You made up an “Ivy AA”. Really strange behavior. On a personal note, I’m fine but thanks for your concern, little mean lady.

Is the person who called college girls liars saying that someone else is hateful? Explain please

Not to start a new controversy between the mom w the fake kid or the divorced women hater but I thought it was strange that in section xi you had players who were all county HM but went on to also get team 2 or 3 AA. Seems strange that a layers own coach would not award them All county but would put them up for AA.

I would like to say, well done to the evaluators. You know. The one's who shatter little girls dreams of making a Under Armor team or any other so called All Star team. You keep taking the same kids over and over again. How did that work out for you. I and many other people can name a few girls that have been caught and passed by dozens of well deserving girls who have absolutely no chance of being called upon. Sad... Do you sit and wonder why numbers are down at a tryout. Nah, im sure you dont. Just as long as you get your favorites on to the team. Better luck next year. Try doing the right thing for a change. You will actually feel better, you know, as a person.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to say, well done to the evaluators. You know. The one's who shatter little girls dreams of making a Under Armor team or any other so called All Star team. You keep taking the same kids over and over again. How did that work out for you. I and many other people can name a few girls that have been caught and passed by dozens of well deserving girls who have absolutely no chance of being called upon. Sad... Do you sit and wonder why numbers are down at a tryout. Nah, im sure you dont. Just as long as you get your favorites on to the team. Better luck next year. Try doing the right thing for a change. You will actually feel better, you know, as a person.

I’m surprised people still try out for things, at least in the Baltimore/DC area. Everyone knows it’s a flawed system. While there are girls who deservedly make the team, they make a mockery of the whole process with a number of their selections.

No different on Long Island!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to say, well done to the evaluators. You know. The one's who shatter little girls dreams of making a Under Armor team or any other so called All Star team. You keep taking the same kids over and over again. How did that work out for you. I and many other people can name a few girls that have been caught and passed by dozens of well deserving girls who have absolutely no chance of being called upon. Sad... Do you sit and wonder why numbers are down at a tryout. Nah, im sure you dont. Just as long as you get your favorites on to the team. Better luck next year. Try doing the right thing for a change. You will actually feel better, you know, as a person.

I’m surprised people still try out for things, at least in the Baltimore/DC area. Everyone knows it’s a flawed system. While there are girls who deservedly make the team, they make a mockery of the whole process with a number of their selections.

No different on Long Island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to say, well done to the evaluators. You know. The one's who shatter little girls dreams of making a Under Armor team or any other so called All Star team. You keep taking the same kids over and over again. How did that work out for you. I and many other people can name a few girls that have been caught and passed by dozens of well deserving girls who have absolutely no chance of being called upon. Sad... Do you sit and wonder why numbers are down at a tryout. Nah, im sure you dont. Just as long as you get your favorites on to the team. Better luck next year. Try doing the right thing for a change. You will actually feel better, you know, as a person.

You are ridiculous. How do you know how every kid did at the tryout . Maybe the kid you think are so deserving choked . Tell who these kids are that should have obviously made the team or who made it but obviously should not have but only made it because of connections . You won’t so just be quiet .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to say, well done to the evaluators. You know. The one's who shatter little girls dreams of making a Under Armor team or any other so called All Star team. You keep taking the same kids over and over again. How did that work out for you. I and many other people can name a few girls that have been caught and passed by dozens of well deserving girls who have absolutely no chance of being called upon. Sad... Do you sit and wonder why numbers are down at a tryout. Nah, im sure you dont. Just as long as you get your favorites on to the team. Better luck next year. Try doing the right thing for a change. You will actually feel better, you know, as a person.

"Shatter little girls dreams" oh please. Wow, you are the self proclaimed expert evaluator who can identify with absolute certainty the best of the best and you can do it all without hurting anyones feelings. It must be nice to be such a know it all.

Congratulations to all of the young women who earned a spot on one of the teams. Keep up the great work and be proud of your accomplishment.

Not an expert at all. Just use facts and fugures. You can too. Just go to flg website. Very informative. All the stats you need to make your own informed opinion. I'm not a hater. A realist. Yes. Hey fool. Post what team your kid is on so we all can tell You if your wonderkind deserved the recognition. I'm guessing no. You are just trying to lump yours in with the deserving. Was it 3rd or 4th place at ua? Speaks for itself doesn't it. Be well and congrats to the deserving!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to say, well done to the evaluators. You know. The one's who shatter little girls dreams of making a Under Armor team or any other so called All Star team. You keep taking the same kids over and over again. How did that work out for you. I and many other people can name a few girls that have been caught and passed by dozens of well deserving girls who have absolutely no chance of being called upon. Sad... Do you sit and wonder why numbers are down at a tryout. Nah, im sure you dont. Just as long as you get your favorites on to the team. Better luck next year. Try doing the right thing for a change. You will actually feel better, you know, as a person.

I’m surprised people still try out for things, at least in the Baltimore/DC area. Everyone knows it’s a flawed system. While there are girls who deservedly make the team, they make a mockery of the whole process with a number of their selections.

Well Baltimore did win both divisions on the girls side, so maybe the evaluators knew something you don't?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not an expert at all. Just use facts and fugures. You can too. Just go to flg website. Very informative. All the stats you need to make your own informed opinion. I'm not a hater. A realist. Yes. Hey fool. Post what team your kid is on so we all can tell You if your wonderkind deserved the recognition. I'm guessing no. You are just trying to lump yours in with the deserving. Was it 3rd or 4th place at ua? Speaks for itself doesn't it. Be well and congrats to the deserving!!!

Relax pal, have a Snickers, you're outrage is tiring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not an expert at all. Just use facts and fugures. You can too. Just go to flg website. Very informative. All the stats you need to make your own informed opinion. I'm not a hater. A realist. Yes. Hey fool. Post what team your kid is on so we all can tell You if your wonderkind deserved the recognition. I'm guessing no. You are just trying to lump yours in with the deserving. Was it 3rd or 4th place at ua? Speaks for itself doesn't it. Be well and congrats to the deserving!!!

"Facts and figures" you are a typical know nothing who looks at box scores of HS games and thinks they know something about the sport. High School statistics are meaningless. Some years Long Island wins the tournament some years they do not but they are always competitive. Great lacrosse is played in several areas around the country. look at this years Division I All-Americans, probably around 25% from Long Island and about 75% from the rest of the country. Long Island has by far the largest concentration of players but there are great players from many areas. Over the years there have been similar complaints but the reality is that in most instances the evaluators select very strong players. There are always going to be a handful of very good players who do not make the cut simply because there are only so many spots available.There are not that many deserving players who do not make the team (maybe 5-10). One of the problems on Long Island is that many parents put a lot of stock in HS Lacrosse, HS awards and HS recognition and the fact that their daughter is going to play college lacrosse. There are approximately "100" 2019 HS Grads going on to play Division I Womens Lacrosse. 10 - 15 of those players are legit high end players and maybe another 5 - 10 who might turn out to be legit. The problem is that many parents believe that because they were All-County or whatever and that they are going to play DI They are just as good as the top players.There is a big difference between the player going to play at BC and the player going to play at BU.

In the end none of it really matters, what matters. This sport provides more opportunity than any other sport. Go compare girls lax to girls soccer on Long Island. I bet there are only about half the number of girls from long island going to play division I soccer with maybe 3 -5 going to a Top 30 caliber program and about 3 -5 who were able to use soccer to get into a top tier academic school.

You say that you are "realist" and not a hater so I will take you at your word. If you want to know where a player really stands just look at the college programs that make / made offers. If the player has offers from Northwestern, Boston College, Maryland and North Carolina and didn't make the UA Team then maybe the evaluators got it wrong. (for 2021's and below I bet the players on the UA teams will receive offers from many of the Top 10 -20 Programs). Parents do not like to hear this but the reality is that the recruiting process will tell the players where they stand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not an expert at all. Just use facts and fugures. You can too. Just go to flg website. Very informative. All the stats you need to make your own informed opinion. I'm not a hater. A realist. Yes. Hey fool. Post what team your kid is on so we all can tell You if your wonderkind deserved the recognition. I'm guessing no. You are just trying to lump yours in with the deserving. Was it 3rd or 4th place at ua? Speaks for itself doesn't it. Be well and congrats to the deserving!!!

You really are a fool. First off the FLG " stats" are incomplete and second who cares about the stats. Only an ignorant uninformed dope determines who the best players are by stats, every year you have players on horrendous teams putting up big numbers against other horrendous teams. The best player in the country ( Questionable) had multiple games that she did not score in because she was being locked off etc, while others did not face that type of defensive attention every game. You are such a coward , if you think players made the team that are undeserving call them out , if you think there are players who unquestionably should have made it lets hear about them. You won't do it as your just a coward.Sorry your poor kid gets dragged to all these tryouts but has no chance at making them even thou dad says she's the best because she put u 5 goals against B'Wood.

FLG is a joke with stats. They are making more off HS kids

So another list of the top HS girls, this time by BOTC. The truth is somewhere in these lists, between the FLG Goat lists, Newsday and BOTC lists of players. Just like some of the elite team selections, county awards, you would be surprised by both some of the players who got on these lists, as well as surprised by some of the players who did not make the list. You do see a pattern emerge, there are a small group on all the lists, that seem beyond question. Congrats to all on the list, keep working hard!

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

You are aware that the US lost in the last U19 games? And that the US has only won 4 of 6? This year is out of the ordinary. For all the griping people did about KAH putting so many NW girls on the team she has been proven correct. They are a fantastic team.

Do you think the results in the team USA basketball games are any different in the U20, U18, etc divisions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

I agree with you. Scores like 25-0 and 26-0 are embarrassing, so much for good sportsmanship!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

Yeah why "waist" everyone's time. Go watch some paint dry then, why are you on here bellyaching spelling wizard?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

Congratulations!!! Go USA!!!

Please. It’s a bunch of college girls with a few very competitive high school kids. Playing a mismatch against mostly high school aged teams that can barely catch and throw, with 1-3 girls (US girls playing on foreign teams) with some skill thrown in. A total mismatch. Based on the talent from other countries she could of coached a decent high school team to the Championship. If the US took the 100 kids they originally put together, they could put 4 teams in and the US would finish 1-4. And possibly the team that won today wouldn’t of.
The placement of multiple NW kids isn’t a joke, it’s an embarrassment. 25-0. Pathetic. So much for the sportsmanship US Lacrosse preaches huh? And for every favor she maneuvered to put on the team, she left a deserving player out because of politics, favoritism, etc..
They won. Big surprise. Congrats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The Women's U19 World Cup Tournament is about expanding the game of women's lacrosse to other countries. Women's Lacrosse is a fantastic sport and should be a internationally cultivated. Plant the seed and watch it grow. It's about showing the International Olympic Committee that Lacrosse isn't just occurring in the US and Canada. The ultimate goal is bringing Lacrosse back to the Olympics in 2024 or 2028.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The losers will never stop trying to diminish the accomplishments of young women who do better than and receive more recognition and accolades than their daughter. Congratulations! Go USA! ..... and no, there are not 100 other girls who could have made the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The losers will never stop trying to diminish the accomplishments of young women who do better than and receive more recognition and accolades than their daughter. Congratulations! Go USA! ..... and no, there are not 100 other girls who could have made the team.

Honestly I would be proud if my daughter makes the U19 team in the future but having that many NW kids on the team is a joke no matter how you look at it. Does anyone believe that there would have been so many to make the team if the NW coach was not involved, which shows the obvious politics. Its unfortunate that the sort has not caught on in other countries and not sure this will make the Olympic committee want the sport as it just shows that the US will win it easily at this point.Glad they won but have to say the games were unwatchable from a competitive standpoint and the only thing that was surprising was how Canada seemed to have taken a step back .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The losers will never stop trying to diminish the accomplishments of young women who do better than and receive more recognition and accolades than their daughter. Congratulations! Go USA! ..... and no, there are not 100 other girls who could have made the team.

Amen brother (sister), a bunch of sad washwomen on here posting silliness about a bunch of girls they don't know.

Must of hit a nerve. Re read the post. It didn’t say 100 girls could make the team - so you’re daughters specialness or amazingness isn’t diminished.

The post did say the US could of taken ALL 100, created 4 (actually 5) teams and they would of finished 1-4/5.
But of course you feel slighted, because that view shows the competition and performance maybe wasn’t as special as US Lacrosse social media posts would lead you to believe.

The 2nd word in your post is lost - and assume your daughter (or your friends daughter or whomever) is being belittled and of course automatically has more recognition and by default is 100% more amazIng. Your response shows exactly what’s wrong with Lacrosse and the chosen ones of special entitlements.

You are right there weren’t 100 that could of made the final team and didn’t - but there were more than the 18 who made it that could/should of (but likely didn’t have the political capital or some tie in or unfortunately didn’t attend NW. A fact that is certainly lost on you because your connection made it on pure merit.

What country - after being beaten 25-0 or 26-0,
is going to honestly put money into investing in a game vs soccer or basketball or frankly most any other women’s sport?

I’m happy for the team and proud of the girls who worked their butts off for a year to be a part of it. US should of won. But the rest of the teams were weak and the talent level (other than a handful of girls - girls that’s were from the US by the way) more on par with JV Lacrosse at the high school level. Some teams they played couldn’t throw or catch with opposite hands. Not hating. Not jealous. No ace to grind. Just a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The losers will never stop trying to diminish the accomplishments of young women who do better than and receive more recognition and accolades than their daughter. Congratulations! Go USA! ..... and no, there are not 100 other girls who could have made the team.

Honestly I would be proud if my daughter makes the U19 team in the future but having that many NW kids on the team is a joke no matter how you look at it. Does anyone believe that there would have been so many to make the team if the NW coach was not involved, which shows the obvious politics. Its unfortunate that the sort has not caught on in other countries and not sure this will make the Olympic committee want the sport as it just shows that the US will win it easily at this point.Glad they won but have to say the games were unwatchable from a competitive standpoint and the only thing that was surprising was how Canada seemed to have taken a step back .

Please enough already. Have you watched any of the NU girls play? They are all excellent. I can't listen to the "Political" BS anymore. KAH obviously thinks very highly of the NU girls... she offered them a spot at Northwestern. If KAM or the others involved did not offer your daughter a spot at their respective university/program what would make you think that they would select you for the U19 Team. The coaches involved with the selection had all been watching the players for years during the recruiting process there were not a lot of surprises at the tryouts.

What is really a joke and embarrassing are the parents that constantly whine about how unfair everything is and how this is a joke and a waste and all political. When the college coaches from the top programs and the evaluators and selection committee members for Under Armour, Team USA etc... generally all come to the same conclusion as to who the top players are I think they are right most of the time.

Congrats to Team USA you all should be very proud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The losers will never stop trying to diminish the accomplishments of young women who do better than and receive more recognition and accolades than their daughter. Congratulations! Go USA! ..... and no, there are not 100 other girls who could have made the team.

Honestly I would be proud if my daughter makes the U19 team in the future but having that many NW kids on the team is a joke no matter how you look at it. Does anyone believe that there would have been so many to make the team if the NW coach was not involved, which shows the obvious politics. Its unfortunate that the sort has not caught on in other countries and not sure this will make the Olympic committee want the sport as it just shows that the US will win it easily at this point.Glad they won but have to say the games were unwatchable from a competitive standpoint and the only thing that was surprising was how Canada seemed to have taken a step back .

Please enough already. Have you watched any of the NU girls play? They are all excellent. I can't listen to the "Political" BS anymore. KAH obviously thinks very highly of the NU girls... she offered them a spot at Northwestern. If KAM or the others involved did not offer your daughter a spot at their respective university/program what would make you think that they would select you for the U19 Team. The coaches involved with the selection had all been watching the players for years during the recruiting process there were not a lot of surprises at the tryouts.

What is really a joke and embarrassing are the parents that constantly whine about how unfair everything is and how this is a joke and a waste and all political. When the college coaches from the top programs and the evaluators and selection committee members for Under Armour, Team USA etc... generally all come to the same conclusion as to who the top players are I think they are right most of the time.

Congrats to Team USA you all should be very proud

What will be really funny is in the spring when all of you that are on here congratulating the US team for killing other teams with scores like 25-0 are on here killing local kids/coaches for scoring a lot against the B’Woods the Port Jeff’s. Then, it will be that coach has no sportsmanship & little Sally superstar shouldn’t have scored 8 pts even when 6 of them were assists. Essentially what the US team did was exactly the same thing.

Another nerve hit. When you put your USA hat on - you’re supposed to take your college or respective program hat off. And that’s clearly didn’t happen here. Girls cut and brought back. Girls playing subpar but being played over others. A process US Lacrosse swore was going to be transparent - and because of coaching egos became anything but that.

The competition at World Lacrosse was subpar. All the NU girls weren’t excellent - the stats don’t lie. And much of the stats some, NU girls and others, did pile up were done during stat padding moments up 12-2 or 16-0 or whatever.

Yes all the girls that made cuts along the way were good, and generally were always among the top. No denying that.

But your post basically acknowledges when the next tryout happens 4 years from now, if your daughter isn’t offered or recruited by the U19 Head Coach or the coaches involved with the selections you're wasting your time. From a National Team perspective that’s just wrong. And not what US lax promotes with their transparency and fairness approach. Plain and simple.

And btw, not every one of those 18 girls were on that team by a political connection or a tie to something. Work hard, be humble, be selfless and amazing things can happen! Teach that to your daughter and along with their athletic ability they will go far and be liked. Teach them that they are always being slighted and they will become negative and unlikable and unfortunately turn out like you. Fact!

For all the folks talking about the lopsided scores and how that will discourage countries from investing in the sport and my hurt its olympic prospects that's just silly.

Look at other sports and some of their youth scores. Heck look at the Olympic basketball scores in a lot of cases. This year was a bit unusual in that the Canadian and Australian teams seemed to be weaker than previous years. Or maybe the US team was just very good this year which I honestly think is the case. This year's team was absolutely loaded at every position. The girls play unselfish lacrosse and showed the world what the sport can look like when played well. As another poster said, the main goal of these events is to grow the game of lacrosse. Every iteration has more countries entering so it seems to be working. Congrats to the US team and coaches.

Ok you may be right. Maybe 1-2 didn’t have have a connection. Keep telling yourself most of the 18 didn’t have a tie-in. Follow the coaching tie-in, follow the club, follow the money, follow the relationships.

You’ll profess selflessness, humbleness, hard work and teaching moments. Yet come on here anonymously and be anything but humble. Because you taught all these things to your daughter and she’s was just so so athletic. And whomever questions it obviously wasn’t as athletic or special or deserving.

True there are parents that always gripe if their daughter doesn’t make the cut, or UA, or their HS varsity - whatever.
I’m not one of them, fortunately never had to be. Only stated how subpar the competition was , that the lack of transparency of course has people questioning, and just facts around this joke of dominance the last few weeks.

And all Ive seen back is “lost”, teach them wrong and they will turn out like you, and how embarrassing it is that anyone even questions how special this all is. Facts are facts, my daughter is just fine thank you. See ya on the sidelines when you’re yelling at your daughter “go to goal.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The losers will never stop trying to diminish the accomplishments of young women who do better than and receive more recognition and accolades than their daughter. Congratulations! Go USA! ..... and no, there are not 100 other girls who could have made the team.

Honestly I would be proud if my daughter makes the U19 team in the future but having that many NW kids on the team is a joke no matter how you look at it. Does anyone believe that there would have been so many to make the team if the NW coach was not involved, which shows the obvious politics. Its unfortunate that the sort has not caught on in other countries and not sure this will make the Olympic committee want the sport as it just shows that the US will win it easily at this point.Glad they won but have to say the games were unwatchable from a competitive standpoint and the only thing that was surprising was how Canada seemed to have taken a step back .

Please enough already. Have you watched any of the NU girls play? They are all excellent. I can't listen to the "Political" BS anymore. KAH obviously thinks very highly of the NU girls... she offered them a spot at Northwestern. If KAM or the others involved did not offer your daughter a spot at their respective university/program what would make you think that they would select you for the U19 Team. The coaches involved with the selection had all been watching the players for years during the recruiting process there were not a lot of surprises at the tryouts.

What is really a joke and embarrassing are the parents that constantly whine about how unfair everything is and how this is a joke and a waste and all political. When the college coaches from the top programs and the evaluators and selection committee members for Under Armour, Team USA etc... generally all come to the same conclusion as to who the top players are I think they are right most of the time.

Congrats to Team USA you all should be very proud.

You failed to answer 1 simple question someone posted earlier. Would that many NW connected players have made the team if the NW coaching staff was not involved ? Honestly no dog in this fight but your statement shows you are delusional. Many kids get offers from NW and do not accept so lets not act as if its on the top of many players lists , while its great academically , weather is brutal, and the coach has a terrible reputation for being very difficult to play for.

Never yell go to goal. My daughter would be mortified! Won’t see you on the sidelines ,I’m sure of it, because there is no way with your attitude that your daughter was recruited by a top 10 team, and if they were it’s because they did not listen to you. Btw, Club affiliation had nothing to do with making the USA team. I’m not sure why I am indulging, I guess just tired of hearing that if your child is successful that there is a negative reason behind it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And btw, not every one of those 18 girls were on that team by a political connection or a tie to something. Work hard, be humble, be selfless and amazing things can happen! Teach that to your daughter and along with their athletic ability they will go far and be liked. Teach them that they are always being slighted and they will become negative and unlikable and unfortunately turn out like you. Fact!

Very well said.

You are indulging because you must have a guilty conscience.
Or indulging because you think now you’re an lax know it all who is in the know.
Or indulging because deep down you know there were other deserving kids who could of and should of made that team.
Or indulging because after thinking about it, you realized that relationships built at the club level do have an impact when conversations are being had about players - not having for and against. Self promoting conversations.
And of course you’ll backhand comment how your daughter is on a Top 10 team - and anyone’s who denies her talent obviously is jealous and that any person and by association their daughter couldn’t of been recruited nearly as heavily as your special Top 10 gift to women’s lacrosse.

Newsflash. I look forward to the upcoming season and seeing a large number of talented kids and teams play. Certainly more than 18 of them.
But you are right, you won’t be able to see me on the sidelines. Only because you’ll be too busy keeping stats in your head, wearing your USA gear telling anyone who listens how special it was, or better yet you’ll be wearing your daughters team issued lacrosse gear hand me downs. Or your Top 10 hat will cloud your already delusional vision.

And it won’t change the the fact you’re on a lax board looking for validation of specialness, awesomeness, and success.

In theory, hard work, selflessness, and being humble is what all should strive for.

In practice, you can still do/be all those things, and things still won’t work out because of happenings off the field vs performance on the field.

Just a fact. And there’s is no denying it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

It’s you! I guess every team your daughter didn’t make is a joke and a complete waste of time? I’m sure if she made it, you wouldn’t be feeling this way. Proud of the girls and proud that they brought home the Gold for USA!! The girls have made forever friends from different Countries and have amazing memories! Sorry your daughter wasn’t chosen and can’t tell her children that she played for the USA team xrand won a gold medal. You can try and take that away but no matter how much you try, you can’t.

The losers will never stop trying to diminish the accomplishments of young women who do better than and receive more recognition and accolades than their daughter. Congratulations! Go USA! ..... and no, there are not 100 other girls who could have made the team.

Honestly I would be proud if my daughter makes the U19 team in the future but having that many NW kids on the team is a joke no matter how you look at it. Does anyone believe that there would have been so many to make the team if the NW coach was not involved, which shows the obvious politics. Its unfortunate that the sort has not caught on in other countries and not sure this will make the Olympic committee want the sport as it just shows that the US will win it easily at this point.Glad they won but have to say the games were unwatchable from a competitive standpoint and the only thing that was surprising was how Canada seemed to have taken a step back .

Please enough already. Have you watched any of the NU girls play? They are all excellent. I can't listen to the "Political" BS anymore. KAH obviously thinks very highly of the NU girls... she offered them a spot at Northwestern. If KAM or the others involved did not offer your daughter a spot at their respective university/program what would make you think that they would select you for the U19 Team. The coaches involved with the selection had all been watching the players for years during the recruiting process there were not a lot of surprises at the tryouts.

What is really a joke and embarrassing are the parents that constantly whine about how unfair everything is and how this is a joke and a waste and all political. When the college coaches from the top programs and the evaluators and selection committee members for Under Armour, Team USA etc... generally all come to the same conclusion as to who the top players are I think they are right most of the time.

Congrats to Team USA you all should be very proud.

You failed to answer 1 simple question someone posted earlier. Would that many NW connected players have made the team if the NW coaching staff was not involved ? Honestly no dog in this fight but your statement shows you are delusional. Many kids get offers from NW and do not accept so lets not act as if its on the top of many players lists , while its great academically , weather is brutal, and the coach has a terrible reputation for being very difficult to play for.

The answer to the question is no but you are missing the point. With the NU "players / commits" it is not political, it is the fact that The NU Coach thinks that the players are very good that is why she made offers to them them. Evaluating players is not an exact science it is "opinion".

This is just the most recent situation but it goes on every time a list or a team is made. The haters come out and try to diminish the list, team or honor. Some parents just can't handle it when others are recognized as being stronger players than their daughter. Oh, BTW... Not that many players receive an offer to play at Northwestern. Programs like Northwestern cast a pretty small net each year obviously they do not get every player they want but the number of offers put out each year is pretty small.

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You failed to answer 1 simple question someone posted earlier. Would that many NW connected players have made the team if the NW coaching staff was not involved ? Honestly no dog in this fight but your statement shows you are delusional. Many kids get offers from NW and do not accept so lets not act as if its on the top of many players lists , while its great academically , weather is brutal, and the coach has a terrible reputation for being very difficult to play for.[/quote]

The answer to the question is no but you are missing the point. With the NU "players / commits" it is not political, it is the fact that The NU Coach thinks that the players are very good that is why she made offers to them them. Evaluating players is not an exact science it is "opinion".

This is just the most recent situation but it goes on every time a list or a team is made. The haters come out and try to diminish the list, team or honor. Some parents just can't handle it when others are recognized as being stronger players than their daughter. Oh, BTW... Not that many players receive an offer to play at Northwestern. Programs like Northwestern cast a pretty small net each year obviously they do not get every player they want but the number of offers put out each year is pretty small.[/quote]

Wrong. The original posts dealt with the surprise how weak the competition and other countries were. Likely because the quality of play was poor, combined with how stacked the US team was.

That’s turned into somehow parents can’t handle it and others are recognized as greater and stronger and much more special and how dare comments be made other than how great and special this all is.
The haters didn’t come out, but the protectors of special sure did and showed true colors.

The NW comments are because for all the promotion of how transparent USA Lacrosse was going to be - the process and selection was not - evident by how many NW and degrees of separations from
Amonte were chosen.

Simple statement - the dominations had less to do with the awesomeness of the US players and more to with the overall poor quality of overall play. College players shouldn’t be playing against kids who can’t catch and throw with their opposite hands. England and a few other teams came over to the US this spring and were beaten by High school teams soundly. Yet some posters want to be so proud the US delivered a beat down and want to post like it’s a miracle they won.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In theory, hard work, selflessness, and being humble is what all should strive for.

In practice, you can still do/be all those things, and things still won’t work out because of happenings off the field vs performance on the field.

Just a fact. And there’s is no denying it.

Very well said!!!
Seen it first hand numerous times. And yes my daughter was was contacted by a few top 10 teams.
Be happy you are on the inside looking out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And btw, not every one of those 18 girls were on that team by a political connection or a tie to something. Work hard, be humble, be selfless and amazing things can happen! Teach that to your daughter and along with their athletic ability they will go far and be liked. Teach them that they are always being slighted and they will become negative and unlikable and unfortunately turn out like you. Fact!

Very well said.

Yup! I cringed every time I saw a post about this U19 team on Twitter. Like a bunch of rich parents paying to hear that there average kids are doing great things. It’s a joke and everyone knows it. The majority of those girls will disappear in college. Fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And btw, not every one of those 18 girls were on that team by a political connection or a tie to something. Work hard, be humble, be selfless and amazing things can happen! Teach that to your daughter and along with their athletic ability they will go far and be liked. Teach them that they are always being slighted and they will become negative and unlikable and unfortunately turn out like you. Fact!

Very well said.

Yup! I cringed every time I saw a post about this U19 team on Twitter. Like a bunch of rich parents paying to hear that there average kids are doing great things. It’s a joke and everyone knows it. The majority of those girls will disappear in college. Fact!

There you have it... another jealous hater.

Why follow US Lacrosse on twitter if you think it’s a joke. Jealousy is very ugly.

Oh and I can buy you a t shirt if you’d like ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And btw, not every one of those 18 girls were on that team by a political connection or a tie to something. Work hard, be humble, be selfless and amazing things can happen! Teach that to your daughter and along with their athletic ability they will go far and be liked. Teach them that they are always being slighted and they will become negative and unlikable and unfortunately turn out like you. Fact!

Very well said.

Yup! I cringed every time I saw a post about this U19 team on Twitter. Like a bunch of rich parents paying to hear that there average kids are doing great things. It’s a joke and everyone knows it. The majority of those girls will disappear in college. Fact!

There you have it... another jealous hater.

I cringe every time an adult whose daughter didn't make a team goes on BOTC and mentions it. Just means their daughter is not as good as they think, but they think everyone else's daughter is average. It's comical and cringeworthy.

This is getting funny how comments on the lack of true competition turns into “hater”,”lost”, “jealousy”, “your kid must be average”, “my kid is humble and hard working...yours must not be”.....who are the real haters?

Plain and simple facts are the competition was at the level where HS teams in the Top 20-25
could of won that “world championship.” Not by an average score of 18-3 or whatever, but still would of won.
But let’s all be proud the US was just so special and so good playing against teams with players that couldn’t catch and throw with either hand. Grow the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is getting funny how comments on the lack of true competition turns into “hater”,”lost”, “jealousy”, “your kid must be average”, “my kid is humble and hard working...yours must not be”.....who are the real haters?

Plain and simple facts are the competition was at the level where HS teams in the Top 20-25
could of won that “world championship.” Not by an average score of 18-3 or whatever, but still would of won.
But let’s all be proud the US was just so special and so good playing against teams with players that couldn’t catch and throw with either hand. Grow the game.

Why bother posting this drivel? What's the purpose? What are you trying to accomplish other than diminish the accomplishments of a young lady other than your own? Didn't your mom ever give you the golden advice," If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is getting funny how comments on the lack of true competition turns into “hater”,”lost”, “jealousy”, “your kid must be average”, “my kid is humble and hard working...yours must not be”.....who are the real haters?

Plain and simple facts are the competition was at the level where HS teams in the Top 20-25
could of won that “world championship.” Not by an average score of 18-3 or whatever, but still would of won.
But let’s all be proud the US was just so special and so good playing against teams with players that couldn’t catch and throw with either hand. Grow the game.

Why bother posting this drivel? What's the purpose? What are you trying to accomplish other than diminish the accomplishments of a young lady other than your own? Didn't your mom ever give you the golden advice," If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all."

Exactly. Bitterness, jealousy and detest come out every time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is getting funny how comments on the lack of true competition turns into “hater”,”lost”, “jealousy”, “your kid must be average”, “my kid is humble and hard working...yours must not be”.....who are the real haters?

Plain and simple facts are the competition was at the level where HS teams in the Top 20-25
could of won that “world championship.” Not by an average score of 18-3 or whatever, but still would of won.
But let’s all be proud the US was just so special and so good playing against teams with players that couldn’t catch and throw with either hand. Grow the game.

Why bother posting this drivel? What's the purpose? What are you trying to accomplish other than diminish the accomplishments of a young lady other than your own? Didn't your mom ever give you the golden advice," If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all."

Team USA is a waste of time. It’s not a competitive event plain and simple. US Lacrosse should use the money they wasted on something nobody cares about (the only people watching were the parents), into helping underprivileged kids learn the sport. Would make a lot more sense.

My mother gave me great advice, including what you quoted.

But above all - she told me to always tell and state the truth.

And that’s all that has been done. But apparently that infuriated some of the privileged insiders here. All I did was state an observation. But that has been interpreted into diminishing accomplishments.

Do you know what’s is drivel (nonsense for the uninformed)? Name calling, assumptions, and the utter lack of combating a single comment or statement with just one counter fact.

Those that played sports at a high level can relate to this old coaching advice “Don’t believe your press clippings, the tape doesn’t lie. “. And in this case all you have to do is watch the tape. It’s not lying.

It’s unfortunate that bitterness, name calling, detest and disgust come out - when all I’m doing is following my mothers advice “Always tell the truth.”

And isn’t comical people are getting worked up over a statement of truth from a couple of anonymous posters who see thru it all.
Which gives me a piece of advice I’ll share with you. “Sometimes, the truth hurts.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is getting funny how comments on the lack of true competition turns into “hater”,”lost”, “jealousy”, “your kid must be average”, “my kid is humble and hard working...yours must not be”.....who are the real haters?

Plain and simple facts are the competition was at the level where HS teams in the Top 20-25
could of won that “world championship.” Not by an average score of 18-3 or whatever, but still would of won.
But let’s all be proud the US was just so special and so good playing against teams with players that couldn’t catch and throw with either hand. Grow the game.

Why bother posting this drivel? What's the purpose? What are you trying to accomplish other than diminish the accomplishments of a young lady other than your own? Didn't your mom ever give you the golden advice," If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all."

Team USA is a waste of time. It’s not a competitive event plain and simple. US Lacrosse should use the money they wasted on something nobody cares about (the only people watching were the parents), into helping underprivileged kids learn the sport. Would make a lot more sense.

Go watch any D1 game, only people there are the parents except for a few big games. ESPN won’t even show college lacrosse because cornhole is more popular. Just stay quiet and tell your less accomplished daughter you live her.

Yes, you are right. Let’s stop all sports all together because it all doesn’t matter anyway. My daughter didn’t make UA, it’s a joke. My daughter didn’t get All American , it’s politics. My daughter should be Middie!! Top 10 programs stink anyway, no one watches! Maybe your daughter just isn’t that good, did that ever cross your mind? I’m sure the 1st seat in Orchestra is fixed too. Keep telling your daughter she is getting slighted, that will do wonders for her in the real world. x7

If the US was padding stats so badly then why are only 2 US girls listed in the top 15 in points in the entire tournament. I don’t think that was the case at all.

Points

Name Team Goals Assists Points

1. Brazier, Shannon Elizabeth China 39 15 54
2. Park, Helen Louise Korea 31 14 45
3. Wurzburger, Caitlyn USA 21 19 40
4. Jimerson, Jalyn Haudenosaunee 26 13 39
5. Wang, Mya Wei Tin Hong Kong 29 4 33
6. Garlow, Lois Haudenosaunee 19 14 33
7. Ziegler, Zoe Xinlin China 22 9 31
8. Rodriquez-Shaw, Delaney Puerto Rico 24 5 29
9. Scane, Isabelle USA 21 8 29
10. Pansini, Natalia Puerto Rico 20 9 29
11. Lerner, Ariella Israel 23 5 28
12. Herrera, Isabella Germany 19 9 28
13. Kapting’ei, Susan Jepleting. Kenya 19 9 28
14. Edwards, Sandy China 17 11 28
15. Rothe, Ashleigh Lourdes Mexico 22 4 26

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My mother gave me great advice, including what you quoted.

But above all - she told me to always tell and state the truth.

And that’s all that has been done. But apparently that infuriated some of the privileged insiders here. All I did was state an observation. But that has been interpreted into diminishing accomplishments.

Do you know what’s is drivel (nonsense for the uninformed)? Name calling, assumptions, and the utter lack of combating a single comment or statement with just one counter fact.

Those that played sports at a high level can relate to this old coaching advice “Don’t believe your press clippings, the tape doesn’t lie. “. And in this case all you have to do is watch the tape. It’s not lying.

It’s unfortunate that bitterness, name calling, detest and disgust come out - when all I’m doing is following my mothers advice “Always tell the truth.”

And isn’t comical people are getting worked up over a statement of truth from a couple of anonymous posters who see thru it all.
Which gives me a piece of advice I’ll share with you. “Sometimes, the truth hurts.”

You’re mother should be ashamed of you. Just because your daughter didn’t make it is no reason to post nastiness. Just don’t. Just be a good person and let someone feel good about something. You’re a negative person who finds the bad in everything. Again, you’re mom should be embarrassed to have raised such a shallow person.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My mother gave me great advice, including what you quoted.

But above all - she told me to always tell and state the truth.

And that’s all that has been done. But apparently that infuriated some of the privileged insiders here. All I did was state an observation. But that has been interpreted into diminishing accomplishments.

Do you know what’s is drivel (nonsense for the uninformed)? Name calling, assumptions, and the utter lack of combating a single comment or statement with just one counter fact.

Those that played sports at a high level can relate to this old coaching advice “Don’t believe your press clippings, the tape doesn’t lie. “. And in this case all you have to do is watch the tape. It’s not lying.

It’s unfortunate that bitterness, name calling, detest and disgust come out - when all I’m doing is following my mothers advice “Always tell the truth.”

And isn’t comical people are getting worked up over a statement of truth from a couple of anonymous posters who see thru it all.
Which gives me a piece of advice I’ll share with you. “Sometimes, the truth hurts.”

You’re mother should be ashamed of you. Just because your daughter didn’t make it is no reason to post nastiness. Just don’t. Just be a good person and let someone feel good about something. You’re a negative person who finds the bad in everything. Again, you’re mom should be embarrassed to have raised such a shallow person.

You nailed it.

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Well said, this perfectly sums it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Honestly it's difficult to tell what you are trying to say, the my daughter is special parents are different than the everybody gets a trophy parents. In the end there were players who could have made the team and did not and the results would have been the same, there are players who did not even bother to try out who probably had a chance to make the team that did not for various reasons.The time commitment and personal expense is too much for some while others have seen the politics of many of these things and simply choose to not be involved. That said the kids that made the team are all exceptional players who all did a great job and congrats to them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Well said, this perfectly sums it up.

I think that we should do away with youth leagues (except in towns like CHS, Manhasset, Mt. Sinai, GC, Northport etc...) also get rid of most HS programs (they are not competitive). There should only be one or two club teams on Long Island (really just one and certainly no B, or C teams) . The Team should only play M&D, Skywalkers and a few other top teams. Keep School Girls (but LI should only have one team), Keep the Under Armour Underclass tournament ( it is the most competitive tournament around). They should have a US U19 Tryout every year with the Top 100 players invited. Only the Top 20 college programs should compete. Lets face there are only 15 - 20 legitimate HS players per grad year on the Island so why do we even need to have any games? Just have those 15 -20 players go to the top 10 college programs and be done with it. Why would anyone waste their time playing for a HS team with no chance of winning a championship? Why would anyone waste their time playing for a college team that is not a Top 10 program? Complete waste of time and money.

I watched ( or tried to) the championship game last night.. the level of talent was apparent, and to think the 2 of the best USA players have another year of HS left is very impressive. overall though the game was very boring.. there were some good finishes and few good saves.. it may have been a fun game to be at but lt did not translate well on TV..the 2 LSN announcers were embarrassing. to start the game the male announcer called KAH - Kelly Amonte Hall??

Congratulations to those who made the team.. Womens College Lacrosse looks to be in fine hands.

The game of lacrosse is growing, and this tournament will help that process. 9 brand new teams competed including those from Kenya, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, China, Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, and Mexico.

It would be great to see the strongest programs (USA, Canada, Australia, England) each consistently mentor the weakest teams so that they can bring up the level of play across the board. The stronger teams should continue sponsor clinics, exchange programs, etc.

The stories of generosity towards the Kenyan team were heartwarming. Team Israel gave them cleats, a local men's league donated equipment, individuals helped them pay for the "excess baggage fees" required to get the gear back home.

Anyone who is saying that the 2019 World Lacrosse U19 Women's tournament wasn't worth playing has missed the point entirely, IMO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

The other teams were there because they were told they had to because the lack of attendance was so embarrassing, bet they couldn't wait for the boringness to end just like the rest of the people watching. I could only stomach about 5 minutes of it! Bet those "ambassadors" of the game wouldn't be walking around so cocky if they actually had any real competition! Reality is that there are only about 10 D1 teams that are actually worth watching, the rest is basically a intramural game for fun. Wish US Lacrosse would stop wasting everyones money!

So here is where the u19!falls down as it relates to building other countries programs. The Kenya team all from Kenya, Belgium the same, Ireland had a few girls not from the country but combined kids from Ireland and England, Israel I think had 5 or so kids from the US and then there is Puerto Rico with 100 percent of the kids from the US and mostly kids playing in and or committed to or about to commit to college. How does sending an entire team from the states help grow the game in that country? Ireland could have fielded a team with a lot of US players and could have been more competitive. Whole thing doesn’t make sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

The other teams were there because they were told they had to because the lack of attendance was so embarrassing, bet they couldn't wait for the boringness to end just like the rest of the people watching. I could only stomach about 5 minutes of it! Bet those "ambassadors" of the game wouldn't be walking around so cocky if they actually had any real competition! Reality is that there are only about 10 D1 teams that are actually worth watching, the rest is basically a intramural game for fun. Wish US Lacrosse would stop wasting everyones money!

You must be a real pleasure to be around. Wish people like you would stop worrying about how others spend their money. Some are not only willing to spend the money we are also willing to generously donate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So here is where the u19!falls down as it relates to building other countries programs. The Kenya team all from Kenya, Belgium the same, Ireland had a few girls not from the country but combined kids from Ireland and England, Israel I think had 5 or so kids from the US and then there is Puerto Rico with 100 percent of the kids from the US and mostly kids playing in and or committed to or about to commit to college. How does sending an entire team from the states help grow the game in that country? Ireland could have fielded a team with a lot of US players and could have been more competitive. Whole thing doesn’t make sense.

Well Puerto Rico is part of the US so........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Listen mate, I could care less about being anyone's protector, I stand by my earlier statement, you're a negative, shallow and mean spirited person, that is the who your mom raised, the question is, why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So here is where the u19!falls down as it relates to building other countries programs. The Kenya team all from Kenya, Belgium the same, Ireland had a few girls not from the country but combined kids from Ireland and England, Israel I think had 5 or so kids from the US and then there is Puerto Rico with 100 percent of the kids from the US and mostly kids playing in and or committed to or about to commit to college. How does sending an entire team from the states help grow the game in that country? Ireland could have fielded a team with a lot of US players and could have been more competitive. Whole thing doesn’t make sense.

Puerto Rico is a United States Territory and US Citizens can go there whenever they feel like it. Donald Trump is the President of Puerto Rico so I am not sure why you think US Citizens playing for Puerto Rico is a problem. All that I am reading on here is how the tournament was not competitive.... Why the problem with the Puerto Rico?

Wrong. Girls were thrilled to watch the US vs Canada game. They were actually so supportive of the teams and were genuinely havppy for the Us unlike you haters. If you detest girls lacrosse and everything it stands for get the heck off this site and follow a manly interesting sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

The other teams were there because they were told they had to because the lack of attendance was so embarrassing, bet they couldn't wait for the boringness to end just like the rest of the people watching. I could only stomach about 5 minutes of it! Bet those "ambassadors" of the game wouldn't be walking around so cocky if they actually had any real competition! Reality is that there are only about 10 D1 teams that are actually worth watching, the rest is basically a intramural game for fun. Wish US Lacrosse would stop wasting everyones money!

You must be a real pleasure to be around. Wish people like you would stop worrying about how others spend their money. Some are not only willing to spend the money we are also willing to generously donate.

Glad you’re not my financial advisor, or else I’d be crying like the rest of the Trump supporters 😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong. Girls were thrilled to watch the US vs Canada game. They were actually so supportive of the teams and were genuinely havppy for the Us unlike you haters. If you detest girls lacrosse and everything it stands for get the heck off this site and follow a manly interesting sport

Guess those girls never watched a good girls lacrosse game. That was a boring waste of time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

The other teams were there because they were told they had to because the lack of attendance was so embarrassing, bet they couldn't wait for the boringness to end just like the rest of the people watching. I could only stomach about 5 minutes of it! Bet those "ambassadors" of the game wouldn't be walking around so cocky if they actually had any real competition! Reality is that there are only about 10 D1 teams that are actually worth watching, the rest is basically a intramural game for fun. Wish US Lacrosse would stop wasting everyones money!

You must be a real pleasure to be around. Wish people like you would stop worrying about how others spend their money. Some are not only willing to spend the money we are also willing to generously donate.

Glad you’re not my financial advisor, or else I’d be crying like the rest of the Trump supporters 😂

The second biggest problem in the lacrosse world is that it has become a sport for the wealthy. For many "Lacrosse Families" money is not a concern. Unfortunately you do need to spend the money to play this sport, you need to play travel, you need to go to tournaments , you need to train, you need to go to camps etc... Unfortunately not everyone can afford to do it all (especially if they have 3 or more children).

The biggest problem in the lacrosse world is the jealous parents. They are jealous of the players that are better than their daughter and they are jealous of the comfortable families with the means to pay for it all. The jealous, bitter parents are the worst thing about this sport because they try to tear down and diminish everything that they perceive as better than what was afforded to their daughter.

Sounds like you are a boring waste of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched ( or tried to) the championship game last night.. the level of talent was apparent, and to think the 2 of the best USA players have another year of HS left is very impressive. overall though the game was very boring.. there were some good finishes and few good saves.. it may have been a fun game to be at but lt did not translate well on TV..the 2 LSN announcers were embarrassing. to start the game the male announcer called KAH - Kelly Amonte Hall??

Congratulations to those who made the team.. Womens College Lacrosse looks to be in fine hands.

The funny thing is those 2 players are older than my on age entering college freshman. Both very good players but let’s not praise them for the age thing when in reality that’s a farce . Not jealous just stating facts .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

The other teams were there because they were told they had to because the lack of attendance was so embarrassing, bet they couldn't wait for the boringness to end just like the rest of the people watching. I could only stomach about 5 minutes of it! Bet those "ambassadors" of the game wouldn't be walking around so cocky if they actually had any real competition! Reality is that there are only about 10 D1 teams that are actually worth watching, the rest is basically a intramural game for fun. Wish US Lacrosse would stop wasting everyones money!

You must be a real pleasure to be around. Wish people like you would stop worrying about how others spend their money. Some are not only willing to spend the money we are also willing to generously donate.

Glad you’re not my financial advisor, or else I’d be crying like the rest of the Trump supporters 😂

The second biggest problem in the lacrosse world is that it has become a sport for the wealthy. For many "Lacrosse Families" money is not a concern. Unfortunately you do need to spend the money to play this sport, you need to play travel, you need to go to tournaments , you need to train, you need to go to camps etc... Unfortunately not everyone can afford to do it all (especially if they have 3 or more children).

The biggest problem in the lacrosse world is the jealous parents. They are jealous of the players that are better than their daughter and they are jealous of the comfortable families with the means to pay for it all. The jealous, bitter parents are the worst thing about this sport because they try to tear down and diminish everything that they perceive as better than what was afforded to their daughter.

Thanks for clearing that up Daddy Warbucks, guess there’s no place for my little Annie in this sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

Every other team was there....because they were required to be. There was a closing ceremony. The game isn't being spread when many of the players representing other countries are from the US. And when the game goes 6 v 6, as now proposed by World Lacrosse, we'll see how the game grows.
Grow the game = grow the $$, and you're buying right into it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The game of lacrosse is growing, and this tournament will help that process. 9 brand new teams competed including those from Kenya, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, China, Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, and Mexico.

It would be great to see the strongest programs (USA, Canada, Australia, England) each consistently mentor the weakest teams so that they can bring up the level of play across the board. The stronger teams should continue sponsor clinics, exchange programs, etc.

The stories of generosity towards the Kenyan team were heartwarming. Team Israel gave them cleats, a local men's league donated equipment, individuals helped them pay for the "excess baggage fees" required to get the gear back home.

Anyone who is saying that the 2019 World Lacrosse U19 Women's tournament wasn't worth playing has missed the point entirely, IMO.

Enlighten us all then. I found it interesting that Team Israel and others donated, and all the while US lax collecting donations and silent.

Other than the players and parents involved, this was for all purposes a non event. Coaches and players from those nations US based. How does a US coach, based in the US, grow the game of lacrosse in China or Mexico or wherever?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

The other teams were there because they were told they had to because the lack of attendance was so embarrassing, bet they couldn't wait for the boringness to end just like the rest of the people watching. I could only stomach about 5 minutes of it! Bet those "ambassadors" of the game wouldn't be walking around so cocky if they actually had any real competition! Reality is that there are only about 10 D1 teams that are actually worth watching, the rest is basically a intramural game for fun. Wish US Lacrosse would stop wasting everyones money!

You must be a real pleasure to be around. Wish people like you would stop worrying about how others spend their money. Some are not only willing to spend the money we are also willing to generously donate.

Now, we are also willing to generate generously, this is funny. Apparently not too generously. Post your contact info as I'm sure Us Lacrosse would love to contact you. They're about $65K short of their own fundraising efforts, That's a lot of t-shirts, so I'm sure they would appreciate your over the top generosity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Listen mate, I could care less about being anyone's protector, I stand by my earlier statement, you're a negative, shallow and mean spirited person, that is the who your mom raised, the question is, why?

But apparently, you do care matey. Otherwise, why would you respond to an anonymous post with such hateful words? And good for you, you stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine - the truth hurts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched ( or tried to) the championship game last night.. the level of talent was apparent, and to think the 2 of the best USA players have another year of HS left is very impressive. overall though the game was very boring.. there were some good finishes and few good saves.. it may have been a fun game to be at but lt did not translate well on TV..the 2 LSN announcers were embarrassing. to start the game the male announcer called KAH - Kelly Amonte Hall??

Congratulations to those who made the team.. Womens College Lacrosse looks to be in fine hands.

The funny thing is those 2 players are older than my on age entering college freshman. Both very good players but let’s not praise them for the age thing when in reality that’s a farce . Not jealous just stating facts .

Haven't you learned anything from recent posts? How dare you state facts?? Welcome to the club. My guess is you'll be called a hater within the hour.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

But if you're going to say this tournament is useless based on level of play then you are basically saying that there should be no youth international sporting events. A majority of them are totally lopsided other than games played between a few countries. Guess you thought it was really notIntelligent Jamaica had a bobsled team too. Because if you can't win, you're wasting your time. Maybe some people have a dream of one day representing their country in an event such as the U19s. If you actually watched the championship game you would have noticed that every other team was there watching as well. They are spreading the game and every iteration of this event there are more teams entered. Is the competition always great? Of course not. That's not really the point. The girls are proud to put on the USA jersey and help grow the game.

The other teams were there because they were told they had to because the lack of attendance was so embarrassing, bet they couldn't wait for the boringness to end just like the rest of the people watching. I could only stomach about 5 minutes of it! Bet those "ambassadors" of the game wouldn't be walking around so cocky if they actually had any real competition! Reality is that there are only about 10 D1 teams that are actually worth watching, the rest is basically a intramural game for fun. Wish US Lacrosse would stop wasting everyones money!

You must be a real pleasure to be around. Wish people like you would stop worrying about how others spend their money. Some are not only willing to spend the money we are also willing to generously donate.

Glad you’re not my financial advisor, or else I’d be crying like the rest of the Trump supporters 😂

The second biggest problem in the lacrosse world is that it has become a sport for the wealthy. For many "Lacrosse Families" money is not a concern. Unfortunately you do need to spend the money to play this sport, you need to play travel, you need to go to tournaments , you need to train, you need to go to camps etc... Unfortunately not everyone can afford to do it all (especially if they have 3 or more children).

The biggest problem in the lacrosse world is the jealous parents. They are jealous of the players that are better than their daughter and they are jealous of the comfortable families with the means to pay for it all. The jealous, bitter parents are the worst thing about this sport because they try to tear down and diminish everything that they perceive as better than what was afforded to their daughter.

Oh thank you so much! Your post sums up perfectly what is wrong with lacrosse. the self-proclaimed self-entitled you are obviously jealous of my daughter's specialness.

By the way, those that have it, usually don't flaunt it.

And those that have a superiorly athletically daughter or son don't brag about that either. But the average ones try to repeat how special their offspring is, in the hopes it may actually come true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Listen mate, I could care less about being anyone's protector, I stand by my earlier statement, you're a negative, shallow and mean spirited person, that is the who your mom raised, the question is, why?

But apparently, you do care matey. Otherwise, why would you respond to an anonymous post with such hateful words? And good for you, you stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine - the truth hurts.

What hateful message did I drop on you, my sensitive friend? What name-calling? I stated, and I stand by it, that you are a mean shallow person. That's not name-calling, it's factual. I guess your mom didn't raise a very tough child either. Again, I stand by the fact, you're jealous, hateful and mean. Oh and overly sensitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel better Ms./Mr. Feel Good?
Stating facts and truth does not equal nastiness. But your response and wrong assumptions sure were.
A simple observation on the level of play turns into wrong assumptions, name calling, a validation on the poor state of reading comprehension, and the reactive nature of jumping to conclusions, of some of you.

But when you get in your head you are going to set someone straight and tell the world only you can be the protector of right vs wrong - on an anonymous board - guess this will happen.
Problem with the current state of hovering, protective, if I repeat it enough my daughter is special but yours is not, everybody should get a trophy parents.

Listen mate, I could care less about being anyone's protector, I stand by my earlier statement, you're a negative, shallow and mean spirited person, that is the who your mom raised, the question is, why?

But apparently, you do care matey. Otherwise, why would you respond to an anonymous post with such hateful words? And good for you, you stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine - the truth hurts.

What hateful message did I drop on you, my sensitive friend? What name-calling? I stated, and I stand by it, that you are a mean shallow person. That's not name-calling, it's factual. I guess your mom didn't raise a very tough child either. Again, I stand by the fact, you're jealous, hateful and mean. Oh and overly sensitive.

I guess you enjoy anonymously telling people they are jealous, hateful, mean. My bad, that justifies it. You’re lacrosse psychiatrist told me it makes you feel so superior and validates how special you and your lacrosse offspring are.

Validates you’re all knowing, protecting the lax community from anyone who calls out anything you don’t agree to in question.

Many on this board sleep better at night knowing you are trolling the board calling out injustice and protecting all from inferior viewpoints, bad players and jealous parents

I really lost sleep over this last night. I even called my mommy and told her how mean you were.

But what’s most intriguing is not one word you’ve written has anything to do with lacrosse or even stating, factually, why others on this board are so wrong. Looks like you need to go back to Lacrosse superhero school. Or not be so offended that not everyone is buying into all this recent specialness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched ( or tried to) the championship game last night.. the level of talent was apparent, and to think the 2 of the best USA players have another year of HS left is very impressive. overall though the game was very boring.. there were some good finishes and few good saves.. it may have been a fun game to be at but lt did not translate well on TV..the 2 LSN announcers were embarrassing. to start the game the male announcer called KAH - Kelly Amonte Hall??

Congratulations to those who made the team.. Womens College Lacrosse looks to be in fine hands.

The funny thing is those 2 players are older than my on age entering college freshman. Both very good players but let’s not praise them for the age thing when in reality that’s a farce . Not jealous just stating facts .

Haven't you learned anything from recent posts? How dare you state facts?? Welcome to the club. My guess is you'll be called a hater within the hour.

I dont know the Florida kid, but how is the LI kid older? she a 2020 YJ

“I dont know the Florida kid, but how is the LI kid older? she a 2020 YJ”

Is this a serious question ? Graduation year does not always reflect age .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“I dont know the Florida kid, but how is the LI kid older? she a 2020 YJ”

Is this a serious question ? Graduation year does not always reflect age .

Just have to read a few of the Boys threads for more insight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it me or do you all not get this u19 tournament. Seems like a complete waste of time, at the expense of US Lacrosse. There is zero competition. Nothing competitive about it. I would rather watch paint dry. Why waist everyone’s time and money? Embarrassing

"Seems like a complete waste of time"... and we have all now witnessed just how positive and productive you are with your valuable time... talk about embarrassing...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched ( or tried to) the championship game last night.. the level of talent was apparent, and to think the 2 of the best USA players have another year of HS left is very impressive. overall though the game was very boring.. there were some good finishes and few good saves.. it may have been a fun game to be at but lt did not translate well on TV..the 2 LSN announcers were embarrassing. to start the game the male announcer called KAH - Kelly Amonte Hall??

Congratulations to those who made the team.. Womens College Lacrosse looks to be in fine hands.

The funny thing is those 2 players are older than my on age entering college freshman. Both very good players but let’s not praise them for the age thing when in reality that’s a farce . Not jealous just stating facts .

Haven't you learned anything from recent posts? How dare you state facts?? Welcome to the club. My guess is you'll be called a hater within the hour.

Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched ( or tried to) the championship game last night.. the level of talent was apparent, and to think the 2 of the best USA players have another year of HS left is very impressive. overall though the game was very boring.. there were some good finishes and few good saves.. it may have been a fun game to be at but lt did not translate well on TV..the 2 LSN announcers were embarrassing. to start the game the male announcer called KAH - Kelly Amonte Hall??

Congratulations to those who made the team.. Womens College Lacrosse looks to be in fine hands.

The funny thing is those 2 players are older than my on age entering college freshman. Both very good players but let’s not praise them for the age thing when in reality that’s a farce . Not jealous just stating facts .

Haven't you learned anything from recent posts? How dare you state facts?? Welcome to the club. My guess is you'll be called a hater within the hour.

Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater.

Took a little longer than expected, but we got there...the post stated stated, they should be entering college this year(pretty sure that is fact)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched ( or tried to) the championship game last night.. the level of talent was apparent, and to think the 2 of the best USA players have another year of HS left is very impressive. overall though the game was very boring.. there were some good finishes and few good saves.. it may have been a fun game to be at but lt did not translate well on TV..the 2 LSN announcers were embarrassing. to start the game the male announcer called KAH - Kelly Amonte Hall??

Congratulations to those who made the team.. Womens College Lacrosse looks to be in fine hands.

The funny thing is those 2 players are older than my on age entering college freshman. Both very good players but let’s not praise them for the age thing when in reality that’s a farce . Not jealous just stating facts .

Haven't you learned anything from recent posts? How dare you state facts?? Welcome to the club. My guess is you'll be called a hater within the hour.

Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater.

Took a little longer than expected, but we got there...the post stated stated, they should be entering college this year(pretty sure that is fact)

No, that is not what the post stated.

Haters gonna detest.

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

As the original poster, I was truly unaware that both the Florida kid and the LI kid are hold backs, like I said I know the LI kid by reputation and she has been one of the best players on LI for a long time.. she is ready to play in college now and didn't, in my opinion need to repeat a year for Lax, But That's her familys decision and I wont comment on it.

The bottom line is all the girls selected for the USA team can play..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

As the original poster, I was truly unaware that both the Florida kid and the LI kid are hold backs, like I said I know the LI kid by reputation and she has been one of the best players on LI for a long time.. she is ready to play in college now and didn't, in my opinion need to repeat a year for Lax, But That's her familys decision and I wont comment on it.

The bottom line is all the girls selected for the USA team can play..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Yes!!!!!
Signs of intelligent life continue to pop up on this board.
There are posters who don’t use the words bitter, jealous, lost, hater and can just deal with facts.
To say how awesome it is that they’re still in high school and overcame great odds - well the facts are that simply isn’t the case.
They are special players regardless of class - let’s leave it at that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Yes!!!!!
Signs of intelligent life continue to pop up on this board.
There are posters who don’t use the words bitter, jealous, lost, hater and can just deal with facts.
To say how awesome it is that they’re still in high school and overcame great odds - well the facts are that simply isn’t the case.
They are special players regardless of class - let’s leave it at that.

Where did anyone say "overcame great odds"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Yes!!!!!
Signs of intelligent life continue to pop up on this board.
There are posters who don’t use the words bitter, jealous, lost, hater and can just deal with facts.
To say how awesome it is that they’re still in high school and overcame great odds - well the facts are that simply isn’t the case.
They are special players regardless of class - let’s leave it at that.

Oh please, give it a rest. After the original poster said that he or she was impressed with the fact that two players who the poster thought were two of the best on the US Team had another year of high school left the other poster had to chime in with a negative comment meant to diminish the players. If you believe the second post was without malice you are a fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Yes!!!!!
Signs of intelligent life continue to pop up on this board.
There are posters who don’t use the words bitter, jealous, lost, hater and can just deal with facts.
To say how awesome it is that they’re still in high school and overcame great odds - well the facts are that simply isn’t the case.
They are special players regardless of class - let’s leave it at that.

Holdback =Cheating Weasel

And you are keeping track why?

No issue with someone stating a fact. Which it obviously is.

That isn't diminishing anything, but obviously, the original poster is not as surprised they have another year now. But I won't put words in his/her mouth.

Seems clear though you don't think people should know. and that shouldn't be discussed, and I'm puzzled why.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And you are keeping track why?

No issue with someone stating a fact. Which it obviously is.

That isn't diminishing anything, but obviously, the original poster is not as surprised they have another year now. But I won't put words in his/her mouth.

Seems clear though you don't think people should know. and that shouldn't be discussed, and I'm puzzled why.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Yes!!!!!
Signs of intelligent life continue to pop up on this board.
There are posters who don’t use the words bitter, jealous, lost, hater and can just deal with facts.
To say how awesome it is that they’re still in high school and overcame great odds - well the facts are that simply isn’t the case.
They are special players regardless of class - let’s leave it at that.

Holdback =Cheating Weasel

And there you have it. Haters gonna detest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And you are keeping track why?

No issue with someone stating a fact. Which it obviously is.

That isn't diminishing anything, but obviously, the original poster is not as surprised they have another year now. But I won't put words in his/her mouth.

Seems clear though you don't think people should know. and that shouldn't be discussed, and I'm puzzled why.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Yes!!!!!
Signs of intelligent life continue to pop up on this board.
There are posters who don’t use the words bitter, jealous, lost, hater and can just deal with facts.
To say how awesome it is that they’re still in high school and overcame great odds - well the facts are that simply isn’t the case.
They are special players regardless of class - let’s leave it at that.

Holdback =Cheating Weasel

And there you have it. Haters gonna detest.[/quote

Cheaters gonna Cheat...Rather be a Hater

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And you are keeping track why?

No issue with someone stating a fact. Which it obviously is.

That isn't diminishing anything, but obviously, the original poster is not as surprised they have another year now. But I won't put words in his/her mouth.

Seems clear though you don't think people should know. and that shouldn't be discussed, and I'm puzzled why.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"Age was not mentioned in the original post. The post simply stated that two of the best US players have another year of HS (pretty sure that is a fact) and the poster thought that was impressive. The person who replied brought age into the mix and obviously has a problem with it and is most certainly a hater"

This could be the most lame post yet.We are discussing a U19 team which is all about age you dope.How are these two more impressive than the other players on the team who are their age? You apparently think getting held back is a major accomplishment. By the way I have no idea who you are talking about as only 1 of the US all tournament players is still in high school as far as I could tell so I assume she is 1 of them.

Once again, bitterness and jealousy come through loud and clear. Try to let it go you will feel better. While you are at it, learn to read and comprehend. To paraphrase: all the original poster said was that he or she was impressed by the fact that two of the better players for the US Team had another year of High School.

First off if you are going to select who the "best" players on the US team are than expect there will be some criticism. If you are going to be impressed because two players have a year of high school left strictly because they were held back then you should expect some criticism.When you have no actual facts you just go with it must be bitterness, honestly I am happy for these kids and know they are excellent players and many will go on to have great collegiate careers but lets not single out their best attribute to be getting held back. When you paraphrase something at least make it relevant.

Yes!!!!!
Signs of intelligent life continue to pop up on this board.
There are posters who don’t use the words bitter, jealous, lost, hater and can just deal with facts.
To say how awesome it is that they’re still in high school and overcame great odds - well the facts are that simply isn’t the case.
They are special players regardless of class - let’s leave it at that.

Holdback =Cheating Weasel

And there you have it. Haters gonna detest.[/quote

Cheaters gonna Cheat...Rather be a Hater

Absolute burn

Looks like a player celebrated her 18th birthday while at the World Cup seems to me she may be younger than one or a couple of the High School girls that are getting recognition for being the youngest because they are 2020’s. So how about recognizing them for their talent and not age

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

So let me get it straight. If your daughter(

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015.I Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

I must be missing something. I guess you think your daughter is the best player in the Country from Long Island?? Inside Lacrosse doesn’t see it that way , only you do apparently. And newsflash then won without your daughter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Yea, it's called playing real Lacrosse. U19 is a waste of time and money . Your daughter is about to disappear in college. Glad you had fun at the expense of growing the game for underprivileged girls! How many likes did the USU19 game get when they won on Twitter? Oh yea....Nobody was watching or cared because the whole this was boring as ***

Must have

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Yea, it's called playing real Lacrosse. U19 is a waste of time and money . Your daughter is about to disappear in college. Glad you had fun at the expense of growing the game for underprivileged girls! How many likes did the USU19 game get when they won on Twitter? Oh yea....Nobody was watching or cared because the whole this was boring as ***

The only person bored was you and your daughter because she didn’t make the US U-19 team! Bah haha hah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must have

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Yea, it's called playing real Lacrosse. U19 is a waste of time and money . Your daughter is about to disappear in college. Glad you had fun at the expense of growing the game for underprivileged girls! How many likes did the USU19 game get when they won on Twitter? Oh yea....Nobody was watching or cared because the whole this was boring as ***

The only person bored was you and your daughter because she didn’t make the US U-19 team! Bah haha hah

My daughter is 15, but nice try. A shame you feel the need to attempt putting other girls down. I just sharing my opinion of the the event. Good college games are way more competitive and exciting to watch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must have

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Yea, it's called playing real Lacrosse. U19 is a waste of time and money . Your daughter is about to disappear in college. Glad you had fun at the expense of growing the game for underprivileged girls! How many likes did the USU19 game get when they won on Twitter? Oh yea....Nobody was watching or cared because the whole this was boring as ***

The only person bored was you and your daughter because she didn’t make the US U-19 team! Bah haha hah

My daughter is 15, but nice try. A shame you feel the need to attempt putting other girls down. I just sharing my opinion of the the event. Good college games are way more competitive and exciting to watch!

I'm guessing your reply is a joke. You started this nonsense, "Your daughter is about to disappear in college." then comment on someone "putting other girls down".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Or....a vested interest in labeling, assuming, and putting down those with a differing opinion a lunatic or a nut job?
Facts are, this tournament wasn't competitive when highly skilled players were playing teams whose players couldn't catch and throw with an opposite hand.
And the embarrassment comments were shared between what's viewed when college-level players are playing middle school talent, and the selection choices of an obviously biased coach. When US Lacrosse promoted the process would be fair, open and transparent, the selections were anything but. And in anyone's viewpoint, unless you benefitted or stood to gain from that selection, that's embarrassing.
Sadly, between 2015 and 2019, at the U19 level, the game didn't grow as many on here have hoped.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Or....a vested interest in labeling, assuming, and putting down those with a differing opinion a lunatic or a nut job?
Facts are, this tournament wasn't competitive when highly skilled players were playing teams whose players couldn't catch and throw with an opposite hand.
And the embarrassment comments were shared between what's viewed when college-level players are playing middle school talent, and the selection choices of an obviously biased coach. When US Lacrosse promoted the process would be fair, open and transparent, the selections were anything but. And in anyone's viewpoint, unless you benefitted or stood to gain from that selection, that's embarrassing.
Sadly, between 2015 and 2019, at the U19 level, the game didn't grow as many on here have hoped.

You couldn’t have said that any better, agree100% .Unfortunately some people live in lala land and refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Or....a vested interest in labeling, assuming, and putting down those with a differing opinion a lunatic or a nut job?
Facts are, this tournament wasn't competitive when highly skilled players were playing teams whose players couldn't catch and throw with an opposite hand.
And the embarrassment comments were shared between what's viewed when college-level players are playing middle school talent, and the selection choices of an obviously biased coach. When US Lacrosse promoted the process would be fair, open and transparent, the selections were anything but. And in anyone's viewpoint, unless you benefitted or stood to gain from that selection, that's embarrassing.
Sadly, between 2015 and 2019, at the U19 level, the game didn't grow as many on here have hoped.

You couldn’t have said that any better, agree100% .Unfortunately some people live in lala land and refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

Agreed!!! Welcome to the new america, where an informed individual gets shouted down.
Just realize that many people feel the same way.

New poster and honest question here... do you think the Olympics will let in a sport where the competition is so imbalanced?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Or....a vested interest in labeling, assuming, and putting down those with a differing opinion a lunatic or a nut job?
Facts are, this tournament wasn't competitive when highly skilled players were playing teams whose players couldn't catch and throw with an opposite hand.
And the embarrassment comments were shared between what's viewed when college-level players are playing middle school talent, and the selection choices of an obviously biased coach. When US Lacrosse promoted the process would be fair, open and transparent, the selections were anything but. And in anyone's viewpoint, unless you benefitted or stood to gain from that selection, that's embarrassing.
Sadly, between 2015 and 2019, at the U19 level, the game didn't grow as many on here have hoped.

You couldn’t have said that any better, agree100% .Unfortunately some people live in lala land and refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

Agreed!!! Welcome to the new america, where an informed individual gets shouted down.
Just realize that many people feel the same way.

I think the point of the original post was to point to the fact that certain parents go on the attack any time players other than their daughter are recognized or given accolades. The post was not intended to endorse U19 or anything else. It was just to point out that many parents can not take it when others are recognized ahead of their daughter. No need to go back to 2015. Here is a post from 8/16/19 # 291370 "Girls 2023 thread"...

---"those interchangeable players that will stay on the AA team are F & F now of 2 coaches. The other girls will be dropped...and they are just as good as the girls who stay. Its all who you know in this age bracket. truth"---

It is the same BS all the time... "Friends & Family" "other players just as good" "it's all who you know" on and on the same BS all the time. "Coaches get it wrong all the time" "it's a joke" "she will never see the field in college" "she will major in basketweaving" Bla Bla Bla...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Love it when people on here post... "You have way too much time on your hands". The pot calling the kettle black.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Or....a vested interest in labeling, assuming, and putting down those with a differing opinion a lunatic or a nut job?
Facts are, this tournament wasn't competitive when highly skilled players were playing teams whose players couldn't catch and throw with an opposite hand.
And the embarrassment comments were shared between what's viewed when college-level players are playing middle school talent, and the selection choices of an obviously biased coach. When US Lacrosse promoted the process would be fair, open and transparent, the selections were anything but. And in anyone's viewpoint, unless you benefitted or stood to gain from that selection, that's embarrassing.
Sadly, between 2015 and 2019, at the U19 level, the game didn't grow as many on here have hoped.

You couldn’t have said that any better, agree100% .Unfortunately some people live in lala land and refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

Agreed!!! Welcome to the new america, where an informed individual gets shouted down.
Just realize that many people feel the same way.

Who was shouted down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The following is from August 1, 2015. Post # 128481

"US U19 team is a joke. Not the best girls represented. 10th and 11th graders on team , ???????? there are 2 girls, seniors from LI, that I know of and probably at least 5 more that should be on that team before the underclassman. this is embarrassing to girls lacrosse in the US. Politics. Two of the best players in the country from LI were not on that team. you guys can take it from there."

The one certainty in girls / women's lacrosse is that there will always be parents whining every time other players are recognized as being better than their daughters. Club team tryouts, HS tryouts, School Girl tryouts, During the recruiting process, Under Armour tryouts, Inside Lacrosse Rankings, Under Armour All-American selection, US U19 tryouts etc... There are certain parents who just can not take it if their daughter is not recognized. It is always a joke, it is always politics, it is always the "friends and family network", it is always a head scratcher, she will disappear in college, etc.. it is always the same BS. When The US U19 Team lost it was because of politics and because they picked the wrong girls. When The US Team wins it is because there was no competition. It was embarrassing when they lost it is now embarrassing that they won. We read on here how the college coaches at the best programs get it wrong all of the time yet somehow their teams are consistently ranked among the best. Not some of the time, it is every time. Every time there is a list put out or a team selected or standouts at a particular event recognized certain parents come on here and do their best to diminish the accomplishments, awards or recognition. I assume they are trying to elevate their daughter by knocking other players.

The bottom line is that some parents just can not get over it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. I have read on this site comments from lunatics who are so bitter over players getting more recognition than their daughter while in high school that they are still posting negative nonsense and attempting to tear a player down three years into the players college career. Insanity.

I wonder if the medical community has a professional / psychological / clinical diagnosis for these nut jobs?

Look for the diagnosis directly under your post which is listed as an example of semantic satiation. You have way too much time on your hands.

Or....a vested interest in labeling, assuming, and putting down those with a differing opinion a lunatic or a nut job?
Facts are, this tournament wasn't competitive when highly skilled players were playing teams whose players couldn't catch and throw with an opposite hand.
And the embarrassment comments were shared between what's viewed when college-level players are playing middle school talent, and the selection choices of an obviously biased coach. When US Lacrosse promoted the process would be fair, open and transparent, the selections were anything but. And in anyone's viewpoint, unless you benefitted or stood to gain from that selection, that's embarrassing.
Sadly, between 2015 and 2019, at the U19 level, the game didn't grow as many on here have hoped.

You couldn’t have said that any better, agree100% .Unfortunately some people live in lala land and refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

Agreed!!! Welcome to the new america, where an informed individual gets shouted down.
Just realize that many people feel the same way.

Who was shouted down?

Pretty sure you just were

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

I would love for someone to post what’s NOT a waste of time, joke etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Yes you are!
Don’t matter if it’s UA, schoolgirls, Brine, USA, Newsday list, FLG list, BOTC list.... people just detest on it. Why can’t people who didn’t make the team or list or didn’t try out, just be happy for the kids that did? Spend more time worrying your own kids, maybe they will benefit from that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

There was a ton of talent at the girls U17. Not sure what you are talking about. Several YJ, Mass Elite, M&D and SW girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Yes you are!
Don’t matter if it’s UA, schoolgirls, Brine, USA, Newsday list, FLG list, BOTC list.... people just detest on it. Why can’t people who didn’t make the team or list or didn’t try out, just be happy for the kids that did? Spend more time worrying your own kids, maybe they will benefit from that.

Haha, that’s funny! The best athletes are actually playing their fall sport now. Overtraining lacrosse in August is not going to make little Sally better! Like I said, waste of time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Yes you are!
Don’t matter if it’s UA, schoolgirls, Brine, USA, Newsday list, FLG list, BOTC list.... people just detest on it. Why can’t people who didn’t make the team or list or didn’t try out, just be happy for the kids that did? Spend more time worrying your own kids, maybe they will benefit from that.

Haha, that’s funny! The best athletes are actually playing their fall sport now. Overtraining lacrosse in August is not going to make little Sally better! Like I said, waste of time

So in conclusion, your little sally didn’t make the cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Yes you are!
Don’t matter if it’s UA, schoolgirls, Brine, USA, Newsday list, FLG list, BOTC list.... people just detest on it. Why can’t people who didn’t make the team or list or didn’t try out, just be happy for the kids that did? Spend more time worrying your own kids, maybe they will benefit from that.

For the 2021's the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists.This is where the rubber meets the road and players and parents will find out where the player stands in relation to her peers on and after September 1st.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Yes you are!
Don’t matter if it’s UA, schoolgirls, Brine, USA, Newsday list, FLG list, BOTC list.... people just detest on it. Why can’t people who didn’t make the team or list or didn’t try out, just be happy for the kids that did? Spend more time worrying your own kids, maybe they will benefit from that.

Haha, that’s funny! The best athletes are actually playing their fall sport now. Overtraining lacrosse in August is not going to make little Sally better! Like I said, waste of time

So in conclusion, your little sally didn’t make the cut.

No, Sally is your daughter. Mine is tearing up the soccer field, and will be running circles around your daughter who likes to waste her time playing in made up events in August. Was that you I saw at the All-County dinner with the laxers on your face when my daughter was named All-American and yours was snubbed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Yes you are!
Don’t matter if it’s UA, schoolgirls, Brine, USA, Newsday list, FLG list, BOTC list.... people just detest on it. Why can’t people who didn’t make the team or list or didn’t try out, just be happy for the kids that did? Spend more time worrying your own kids, maybe they will benefit from that.

Haha, that’s funny! The best athletes are actually playing their fall sport now. Overtraining lacrosse in August is not going to make little Sally better! Like I said, waste of time

So in conclusion, your little sally didn’t make the cut.

No, Sally is your daughter. Mine is tearing up the soccer field, and will be running circles around your daughter who likes to waste her time playing in made up events in August. Was that you I saw at the All-County dinner with the laxers on your face when my daughter was named All-American and yours was snubbed?

My daughter plays a fall sport but the coach was fine with her missing a few days to tryout for U17. You can do both. You sound like a bitter person.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse Combine for U15 and U17 ? So many girls did not try out or seem to know about it. U3v2bs

Waste of time!

Yes you are!
Don’t matter if it’s UA, schoolgirls, Brine, USA, Newsday list, FLG list, BOTC list.... people just detest on it. Why can’t people who didn’t make the team or list or didn’t try out, just be happy for the kids that did? Spend more time worrying your own kids, maybe they will benefit from that.

Haha, that’s funny! The best athletes are actually playing their fall sport now. Overtraining lacrosse in August is not going to make little Sally better! Like I said, waste of time

So in conclusion, your little sally didn’t make the cut.

No, Sally is your daughter. Mine is tearing up the soccer field, and will be running circles around your daughter who likes to waste her time playing in made up events in August. Was that you I saw at the All-County dinner with the laxers on your face when my daughter was named All-American and yours was snubbed?

Sure Sally’s dad, everyone on here believes your B.S.

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

Agree that US Lacrosse did not do a very good job publicizing it. Also, having the combine after fall sports started was unfortunate. The event itself is certainly something that any kid that makes the team should enjoy. Playing at the Fall Classic with the mens and womens US and Canadian national teams as well as the UVA men and Maryland women will be a great experience. The talent at the girls U17 tryouts was very good. I'm not sure how the other 3 groups were. That said, there definitely were plenty of great U17 eligible players that were not there. But considering who was there, making that team is an accomplishment. Many 2020 girls there that are already committed to top schools and a very good group of 2021s also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

Love see bench warmers dad trying to figure stuff out. Congratulations for making an August money grab. Funny how US Lacrosse promotes multisport athletes, but then holds lame events during fall sport season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

Love see bench warmers dad trying to figure stuff out. Congratulations for making an August money grab. Funny how US Lacrosse promotes multisport athletes, but then holds lame events during fall sport season!

I’ll take my bench warmer any day over your imaginary All American. But keep your fantasy going whack job. Maybe someone in the anonymous site will congratulate you for her tearing it up. Hahaha, clown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

No sir, there was no legit question as you say, just a shallow person who’s daughter didn’t make an event writing an opinion to minimize others accomplishment. That is true bitterness. The sad part is the imaginary accomplishment of his own child. Everyone knows a parent of an accomplished athlete, they don’t wish I’ll on others, nor do they boast about there own, that is the realm of a shallow small minded person

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

Love see bench warmers dad trying to figure stuff out. Congratulations for making an August money grab. Funny how US Lacrosse promotes multisport athletes, but then holds lame events during fall sport season!

Love seeing someone who wasn't there carry on about how lame an event was.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

No sir, there was no legit question as you say, just a shallow person who’s daughter didn’t make an event writing an opinion to minimize others accomplishment. That is true bitterness. The sad part is the imaginary accomplishment of his own child. Everyone knows a parent of an accomplished athlete, they don’t wish I’ll on others, nor do they boast about there own, that is the realm of a shallow small minded person

You really are a mental [ChillLaxin] . A poster asks if the event is new and how one gets selected . Maybe they want their kid to tryout or whatever in the future . Your ridiculous response to those questions clearly indicates you are unstable. If anyone has the actual answers to those questions it would be nice to know. Also is there a list of participants anywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

No sir, there was no legit question as you say, just a shallow person who’s daughter didn’t make an event writing an opinion to minimize others accomplishment. That is true bitterness. The sad part is the imaginary accomplishment of his own child. Everyone knows a parent of an accomplished athlete, they don’t wish I’ll on others, nor do they boast about there own, that is the realm of a shallow small minded person

Very well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

No sir, there was no legit question as you say, just a shallow person who’s daughter didn’t make an event writing an opinion to minimize others accomplishment. That is true bitterness. The sad part is the imaginary accomplishment of his own child. Everyone knows a parent of an accomplished athlete, they don’t wish I’ll on others, nor do they boast about there own, that is the realm of a shallow small minded person

You really are a mental [ChillLaxin] . A poster asks if the event is new and how one gets selected . Maybe they want their kid to tryout or whatever in the future . Your ridiculous response to those questions clearly indicates you are unstable. If anyone has the actual answers to those questions it would be nice to know. Also is there a list of participants anywhere.

All the information is on US. lacrosse website. Google National Development Training Program. The kids invited to the combine are listed there as well as information on the process. Results haven’t been sent out yet so no one knows who made the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

Please tell us where one single legit question was asked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

Please tell us where one single legit question was asked.

I think perhaps the writer didn't see the initial post by Sally's dad. The response to the "question" is not inflammatory or angry, it is a response to the "original" Sally daddy poster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

Love see bench warmers dad trying to figure stuff out. Congratulations for making an August money grab. Funny how US Lacrosse promotes multisport athletes, but then holds lame events during fall sport season!

I’ll take my bench warmer any day over your imaginary All American. But keep your fantasy going whack job. Maybe someone in the anonymous site will congratulate you for her tearing it up. Hahaha, clown.

Lol, keep dreaming. You’re just a squirrel looking for his nuts. Good luck to you and your daughter!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

Love see bench warmers dad trying to figure stuff out. Congratulations for making an August money grab. Funny how US Lacrosse promotes multisport athletes, but then holds lame events during fall sport season!

I’ll take my bench warmer any day over your imaginary All American. But keep your fantasy going whack job. Maybe someone in the anonymous site will congratulate you for her tearing it up. Hahaha, clown.

Lol, keep dreaming. You’re just a squirrel looking for his nuts. Good luck to you and your daughter!

Imaginary All American writes about dreams, how appropriate. You’re just a nut, looking for a daughter who doesn’t exist.

Does anyone have any knowledge of boarding schools in the NE or MidAtlantic that recruit girls for lacrosse? Mainly Hun or Linden Hall? Do BS recruit? I didn’t think they really were competitive. There a boy at the local school who just went to Westtown for lacrosse sophomore year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

Please tell us where one single legit question was asked.

"is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing"
legit questions to me but not to the overly sensitive crowd I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

I would say it doesn't matter what the event is. Why does it matter at all? Parents come on here, post about an All American daughter, killing it in the classroom and basically on top of the world, yet some other girl gets a crumb and it's a "waste of time" and nonsense and a joke. It sounds a whole lot more like sour grapes than pride to me.

Angry much. Poster had some legit questions and your answer is bitterness.

Please tell us where one single legit question was asked.

"is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing"
legit questions to me but not to the overly sensitive crowd I guess

Is it new? - Yes, two new age groups U15 and U17 added as a feeder program into already existing U19 and Senior National Team Program.

Is it a tryout? - Yes, but players must have an invitation to attend combine. it is a multi step tryout. They had 21 regional tryouts all over the nation coupled with WPPL futures. Select group of girls made the regional teams for the WPPL event, then an even more select group were invited to the national combine. That is the final tryout where they will select the final roster of 22 from.

Now let’s put this topic to bed, talk about sept 1st or something new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sally’s daddy claims his daughter is an All American lacrosse player as well as “tearing it up” on the soccer field. Yet Sally’s daddy needs to come on an anonymous web and trash others. Now does anyone here remotely believe Sally’s fantasy world, created by her lonely daddy? Does it sound logical? Or does Sally’s daddy seem like a bit of a sociopath who makes up an alternate reality for his Sally?

No way was this guys daughter an AA. That said I am unfamiliar with the event he is bashing , is it new , and is there a tryout or is it an application type thing. If its new I would say the jury is still out on if its a decent event . I would also say that they did not promote it that well as no one I have talked with knew anything about it but hopefully it turns out to be another opportunity for players.

Agree that US Lacrosse did not do a very good job publicizing it. Also, having the combine after fall sports started was unfortunate. The event itself is certainly something that any kid that makes the team should enjoy. Playing at the Fall Classic with the mens and womens US and Canadian national teams as well as the UVA men and Maryland women will be a great experience. The talent at the girls U17 tryouts was very good. I'm not sure how the other 3 groups were. That said, there definitely were plenty of great U17 eligible players that were not there. But considering who was there, making that team is an accomplishment. Many 2020 girls there that are already committed to top schools and a very good group of 2021s also.

Also some parts of the country were already back in school last week. My daughter - a 2020 committed to a good program for a while now - decided not to pursue this. There was not good information about what the whole thing entailed back when we heard about it. We would have had to travel out of state for the tryout at a busy time of the school year (no mention of applying with film back then). For us, weighing travel time and expense plus tryout fees, it was not something we wanted to do with a kid who will be playing at the college level in one year. Was not worth it for us for the chance to wear a USA uniform and play teams that may not be all that competitive. But, I don't understand bashing others for choosing to participate in something. Choose to try out, or choose not to try out, and then move on and mind your own business about other people's decisions. I'm sure it will be a fun experience, but I would not expect any future U19 or team USA coach to base player selection on whether or not someone was on the U15 or U17 roster.

Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Yes. They haven't even let the girls know who made it yet. Agree not a lot of MD girls attended, it just wasn't well publicized. There were a lot of familiar names on the last list from LI and New England however.

LILJ put out their top 50 2021 Players list, the top 10-15 players seem consistent with every other list put out, after that all these lists seem to be a free for all. Somebody from Wantagh must be putting this list together, 10 players from that one team in a single grad year? They will need to be ranked number one in the country to back that up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LILJ put out their top 50 2021 Players list, the top 10-15 players seem consistent with every other list put out, after that all these lists seem to be a free for all. Somebody from Wantagh must be putting this list together, 10 players from that one team in a single grad year? They will need to be ranked number one in the country to back that up!

The only lists that matter are the college coaches lists on September 1st. Players and parents will find out how the college coaches rank the player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LILJ put out their top 50 2021 Players list, the top 10-15 players seem consistent with every other list put out, after that all these lists seem to be a free for all. Somebody from Wantagh must be putting this list together, 10 players from that one team in a single grad year? They will need to be ranked number one in the country to back that up!

The only lists that matter are the college coaches lists on September 1st. Players and parents will find out how the college coaches rank the player.

Well thought out sentence friend! Agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Yes. They haven't even let the girls know who made it yet. Agree not a lot of MD girls attended, it just wasn't well publicized. There were a lot of familiar names on the last list from LI and New England however.

Only YJ players made it from LI - Fear the Bee

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Yes. They haven't even let the girls know who made it yet. Agree not a lot of MD girls attended, it just wasn't well publicized. There were a lot of familiar names on the last list from LI and New England however.

Only YJ players made it from LI - Fear the Bee

Not at U15

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Yes. They haven't even let the girls know who made it yet. Agree not a lot of MD girls attended, it just wasn't well publicized. There were a lot of familiar names on the last list from LI and New England however.

Only YJ players made it from LI - Fear the Bee

Not at U15

Saw the list and sorry but the usual suspects ie UA/ School Girls/ All County multiple times or US Lax AA did not seem to tryout .

Can someone please post the list? Unable to locate anywhere and curious!

from US Lacrosse Website:

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/NTDP/national-combine

Final Rosters

https://teamusa.uslacrosse.org/NTDP/usa-select

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Yes. They haven't even let the girls know who made it yet. Agree not a lot of MD girls attended, it just wasn't well publicized. There were a lot of familiar names on the last list from LI and New England however.

Only YJ players made it from LI - Fear the Bee

Not at U15

Saw the list and sorry but the usual suspects ie UA/ School Girls/ All County multiple times or US Lax AA did not seem to tryout .

Almost everyone that made the final team was on an UA Underclass team this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Yes. They haven't even let the girls know who made it yet. Agree not a lot of MD girls attended, it just wasn't well publicized. There were a lot of familiar names on the last list from LI and New England however.

Only YJ players made it from LI - Fear the Bee

Not at U15

Saw the list and sorry but the usual suspects ie UA/ School Girls/ All County multiple times or US Lax AA did not seem to tryout .

Almost everyone that made the final team was on an UA Underclass team this summer.

I am really only familiar with the LI players and of the 5 I think 2 made an UA team and only 1 has made an UA team multiple times. I dont believe any were US lacrosse AA but could be wrong as US lacrosse only recognizes the top team and thats the only list I know of.The LI players are all very good but I dont think any are the top players except for 1 .Not sour grapes just an opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Will the combine results be publicized?
I took a look at the girls who made it to this last cut -many were from all over lots of Georgia, California, Illinois...
And the familiar names were sparse...
MidAtlanitc Dad

Yes. They haven't even let the girls know who made it yet. Agree not a lot of MD girls attended, it just wasn't well publicized. There were a lot of familiar names on the last list from LI and New England however.

Only YJ players made it from LI - Fear the Bee

Not at U15

Saw the list and sorry but the usual suspects ie UA/ School Girls/ All County multiple times or US Lax AA did not seem to tryout .

Almost everyone that made the final team was on an UA Underclass team this summer.

Please....I saw maybe one or two girls on both of those teams that would be considered top players. The best girls in those age groups were not on those team lists. Pretty sure they did not even know it was "a thing". Anyone who follows girls lacrosse knows it. Congratulations to the girls who made this team, but keep it in perspective. My daughter was a standout player on UA, and knew nothing about it. Wondering why it was kept such a secret?

It wasn't a secret. They stated in a press release nine months ago how they exactly were going to do this. The problem with it was they tied it to the WPLL Regional tryouts. They had those tryouts at horrible times when kids were in school, or had actual other practices we had to attend. There was also a cost that frankly a ton of people were like "yeah not gonna do that" for a WPLL Regional team. From those Regional teams then they chose this list. Many families from our area chose not to go. The main reasons why really great players in our area didn't do it was cost of tryouts and then cost to be a part of WPLL. Also several coaches said it didn't matter, and to focus instead on the season and at best UA.
Also , for another money grab , if you couldn't make the Regional Tryouts you could go To Yale and pay to "be seen" $400.00 and get selected that way. If you had been selected at regionals you didn't have to pay though for the clinic just travel and room/board.
We chose not to participate.
Someone asked a good question on line for the u15 team there are a lot of 2022 grads how is that possible? Bought most u15 was 2023?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It wasn't a secret. They stated in a press release nine months ago how they exactly were going to do this. The problem with it was they tied it to the WPLL Regional tryouts. They had those tryouts at horrible times when kids were in school, or had actual other practices we had to attend. There was also a cost that frankly a ton of people were like "yeah not gonna do that" for a WPLL Regional team. From those Regional teams then they chose this list. Many families from our area chose not to go. The main reasons why really great players in our area didn't do it was cost of tryouts and then cost to be a part of WPLL. Also several coaches said it didn't matter, and to focus instead on the season and at best UA.
Also , for another money grab , if you couldn't make the Regional Tryouts you could go To Yale and pay to "be seen" $400.00 and get selected that way. If you had been selected at regionals you didn't have to pay though for the clinic just travel and room/board.
We chose not to participate.
Someone asked a good question on line for the u15 team there are a lot of 2022 grads how is that possible? Bought most u15 was 2023?

Wow, very interesting. Way to grow the game US Lacrosse! Yet another example of how it’s a useless organization!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It wasn't a secret. They stated in a press release nine months ago how they exactly were going to do this. The problem with it was they tied it to the WPLL Regional tryouts. They had those tryouts at horrible times when kids were in school, or had actual other practices we had to attend. There was also a cost that frankly a ton of people were like "yeah not gonna do that" for a WPLL Regional team. From those Regional teams then they chose this list. Many families from our area chose not to go. The main reasons why really great players in our area didn't do it was cost of tryouts and then cost to be a part of WPLL. Also several coaches said it didn't matter, and to focus instead on the season and at best UA.
Also , for another money grab , if you couldn't make the Regional Tryouts you could go To Yale and pay to "be seen" $400.00 and get selected that way. If you had been selected at regionals you didn't have to pay though for the clinic just travel and room/board.
We chose not to participate.
Someone asked a good question on line for the u15 team there are a lot of 2022 grads how is that possible? Bought most u15 was 2023?

It's really 17&under and 15&under but they call it U15 and U17. A LI 2021 could conceivably be on the U15 team with a fall birthday (i.e. still not quite 16) because of the later school cutoff. My 2020 is still 17 and is age eligible for the dates they gave for U17, though she chose not to try out for a number of reasons. There are several 2020s on U17, though.

One could be the devils advocate and say that they did grow the game. The excitement generated by the WPLL league was good! Many players probably did inspire a new generation of athletes. For me the issue was the rollout. I suppose they had to find a way to do it and so in their mind tying in the WPLL was they way to do to but at least in our area we had a flawed system. When you have high school coaches making the decisions and not an unbiased recorder you get the list that our region put out. Again though not sour grapes and honestly I don't know how one would even begin to do it! I know the process for baseball and soccer is very different, over a year period and takes in totality of play. This was essentially two tryouts.
Many people who attended the combine had very positive experiences for what it's worth. The u15 list does have a lot of great players so it's not taking away from them at all- but I think when they had that group of 70 and ran them through actual physical testing the field was immediately narrowed.
This is the same argument people have about the UA list every year in regions outside of the Midatlantic. When you have girls who are flying to California and West to make a team even though they live In other states I think that is a process that should be halted for example. In the end it all washes out it can be argued and looking at other sports "stars" at 15 don't always make it to being a star at 19. With the NCAA rules changed although it may give a girl some buzz to be on that list the real work comes over the next 2 years.

Also heard one you made the list this season you automatically get invited to next year's combine but don't have proof of it. Seems ridiculously flawed in my estimation. Having regional tryouts in the middle of the first month of MidAtlantic play for example is setting everyone up for failure. So what's the best way to do it? I can only go off of what other sports do.
Training centers year round like other sports. No cost to try out. Girls that make it keep getting invited to regional training centers. With all other sports due to the US affiliation they are allowed to participate regardless of club or high school play. . The field is narrowed organically and scouts also go to major tournaments to identify players.
I found it funny that after pushing to roll back NCAA rules they named a u15 team though. That seemed disingenuous and made them no better than the other sports who fought against their rules and encourage early sports specializing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also heard one you made the list this season you automatically get invited to next year's combine but don't have proof of it. Seems ridiculously flawed in my estimation. Having regional tryouts in the middle of the first month of MidAtlantic play for example is setting everyone up for failure. So what's the best way to do it? I can only go off of what other sports do.
Training centers year round like other sports. No cost to try out. Girls that make it keep getting invited to regional training centers. With all other sports due to the US affiliation they are allowed to participate regardless of club or high school play. . The field is narrowed organically and scouts also go to major tournaments to identify players.
I found it funny that after pushing to roll back NCAA rules they named a u15 team though. That seemed disingenuous and made them no better than the other sports who fought against their rules and encourage early sports specializing.

The kids that made the final team are automatically invited back to the national combine next year, not all the girls that were at the combine this year. Caveat of course is that you still have to be age eligible. The 2020s on the U17 can't play next year obviously and any 2021s that were born prior to 9/1/2002 can't play either.

I’m new to BOTC and it’s Instagram postings. I appreciate the content and banter.

Earlier this week on Insta, the clip of Jillian Hooey, is disappointing.

I’m sure there are better highlight videos of her, especially based upon her various accolades, but why put up this clip when it highlights her inability to use her left hand?
Her catch should have been lefty, or after the catch, she should have gone left (split dodge) to have a better shooting opportunity.

Give the girl credit for scoring yes! But put up a better highlight video that provides sound fundamentals. Instead, I see a one dimensional (all right) player in this clip.

Let the fun begin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to BOTC and it’s Instagram postings. I appreciate the content and banter.

Earlier this week on Insta, the clip of Jillian Hooey, is disappointing.

I’m sure there are better highlight videos of her, especially based upon her various accolades, but why put up this clip when it highlights her inability to use her left hand?
Her catch should have been lefty, or after the catch, she should have gone left (split dodge) to have a better shooting opportunity.

Give the girl credit for scoring yes! But put up a better highlight video that provides sound fundamentals. Instead, I see a one dimensional (all right) player in this clip.

Let the fun begin

Go away troll, your BS is transparent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to BOTC and it’s Instagram postings. I appreciate the content and banter.

Earlier this week on Insta, the clip of Jillian Hooey, is disappointing.

I’m sure there are better highlight videos of her, especially based upon her various accolades, but why put up this clip when it highlights her inability to use her left hand?
Her catch should have been lefty, or after the catch, she should have gone left (split dodge) to have a better shooting opportunity.

Give the girl credit for scoring yes! But put up a better highlight video that provides sound fundamentals. Instead, I see a one dimensional (all right) player in this clip.

Let the fun begin

What's the use for this? You sound like a BUNNY boiler.
I didn't even know who she is, but I liked what I saw when I looked her up, so there.

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

Wow! Not surprising. US Lacrosse is useless. And prompting cheating hold backs is sad for the sport. Just awful!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Maybe they are jealous but I understand it. I find it somewhat annoying when people work the system and if all parents decided to hold back their kids to gain an advantage it would get ridiculous. Do you think all parents should hold their kids back to gain an athletic advantage ? Say what you want but these kids would not be getting the attention they are if they played on age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

can you post the article?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Maybe they are jealous but I understand it. I find it somewhat annoying when people work the system and if all parents decided to hold back their kids to gain an advantage it would get ridiculous. Do you think all parents should hold their kids back to gain an athletic advantage ? Say what you want but these kids would not be getting the attention they are if they played on age.

Yes, they would. All are excellent players. There are some people who just can not stand to see other players receive more recognition than their daughter. If you want a reality check simply look at the schools that made / make offers to your daughter and how much athletic money the school offers. If the player is receiving scholarship offers from North Carolina, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse etc... she is most likely a stud. If the offers come from teams that are outside the Top 20 most years the player is most likely not a top tier player.

Congratulations to each and every player who is recognized by Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... and shame on all miserable bitter parents who want to attack and tear down these players. Remember, it is not the parent or the player that does the "hyping".

If your daughter was that good she would be recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Maybe they are jealous but I understand it. I find it somewhat annoying when people work the system and if all parents decided to hold back their kids to gain an advantage it would get ridiculous. Do you think all parents should hold their kids back to gain an athletic advantage ? Say what you want but these kids would not be getting the attention they are if they played on age.

Yes, they would. All are excellent players. There are some people who just can not stand to see other players receive more recognition than their daughter. If you want a reality check simply look at the schools that made / make offers to your daughter and how much athletic money the school offers. If the player is receiving scholarship offers from North Carolina, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse etc... she is most likely a stud. If the offers come from teams that are outside the Top 20 most years the player is most likely not a top tier player.

Congratulations to each and every player who is recognized by Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... and shame on all miserable bitter parents who want to attack and tear down these players. Remember, it is not the parent or the player that does the "hyping".

If your daughter was that good she would be recognized.

What a dope you are. The disgusting thing is that people are gaming the system. The majority of there hold-back superstars will disappear in college. That's a fact. Now I have no horse in this race because my daughter is a sophomore. She is not a hardback, and it won't matter to her because she has held her own against seniors since starting on Varsity in 8th grade. These girls may be good players, but they are also cheaters, and everyone knows it! I respect a girl playing up and getting the job done 100% more than a girl playing down because her parents didn't believe in her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Maybe they are jealous but I understand it. I find it somewhat annoying when people work the system and if all parents decided to hold back their kids to gain an advantage it would get ridiculous. Do you think all parents should hold their kids back to gain an athletic advantage ? Say what you want but these kids would not be getting the attention they are if they played on age.

Yes, they would. All are excellent players. There are some people who just can not stand to see other players receive more recognition than their daughter. If you want a reality check simply look at the schools that made / make offers to your daughter and how much athletic money the school offers. If the player is receiving scholarship offers from North Carolina, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse etc... she is most likely a stud. If the offers come from teams that are outside the Top 20 most years the player is most likely not a top tier player.

Congratulations to each and every player who is recognized by Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... and shame on all miserable bitter parents who want to attack and tear down these players. Remember, it is not the parent or the player that does the "hyping".

If your daughter was that good she would be recognized.

What a dope you are. The disgusting thing is that people are gaming the system. The majority of there hold-back superstars will disappear in college. That's a fact. Now I have no horse in this race because my daughter is a sophomore. She is not a hardback, and it won't matter to her because she has held her own against seniors since starting on Varsity in 8th grade. These girls may be good players, but they are also cheaters, and everyone knows it! I respect a girl playing up and getting the job done 100% more than a girl playing down because her parents didn't believe in her.

There you go again... just like all of the haters who came before you. Your statement: "The majority of there hold-back superstars will disappear in college. That's a fact." is just not true. The problem is that people like you refuse to believe the truth. What you fail to accept is that these girls did play up when they were in the 8th and 9th grade and they kicked butt. BTW... HS Lacrosse is a joke and it means nothing. Compete on a Top 10 Club team, make Under Armour Underclass , Make School Girls Team 1 and receive multiple offers from Top 10 College Teams then come talk to us.

Tell us all what schools offer scholarships to you little superstar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Maybe they are jealous but I understand it. I find it somewhat annoying when people work the system and if all parents decided to hold back their kids to gain an advantage it would get ridiculous. Do you think all parents should hold their kids back to gain an athletic advantage ? Say what you want but these kids would not be getting the attention they are if they played on age.

Yes, they would. All are excellent players. There are some people who just can not stand to see other players receive more recognition than their daughter. If you want a reality check simply look at the schools that made / make offers to your daughter and how much athletic money the school offers. If the player is receiving scholarship offers from North Carolina, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse etc... she is most likely a stud. If the offers come from teams that are outside the Top 20 most years the player is most likely not a top tier player.

Congratulations to each and every player who is recognized by Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... and shame on all miserable bitter parents who want to attack and tear down these players. Remember, it is not the parent or the player that does the "hyping".

If your daughter was that good she would be recognized.

What a dope you are. The disgusting thing is that people are gaming the system. The majority of there hold-back superstars will disappear in college. That's a fact. Now I have no horse in this race because my daughter is a sophomore. She is not a hardback, and it won't matter to her because she has held her own against seniors since starting on Varsity in 8th grade. These girls may be good players, but they are also cheaters, and everyone knows it! I respect a girl playing up and getting the job done 100% more than a girl playing down because her parents didn't believe in her.

There you go again... just like all of the haters who came before you. Your statement: "The majority of there hold-back superstars will disappear in college. That's a fact." is just not true. The problem is that people like you refuse to believe the truth. What you fail to accept is that these girls did play up when they were in the 8th and 9th grade and they kicked butt. BTW... HS Lacrosse is a joke and it means nothing. Compete on a Top 10 Club team, make Under Armour Underclass , Make School Girls Team 1 and receive multiple offers from Top 10 College Teams then come talk to us.

Tell us all what schools offer scholarships to you little superstar.

My little on age superstar will receive plenty of offers when she’s of recruiting age, don’t you worry! As for your daughter, if she’s so great, why did you hold her back? A shame that she will always be looked at that way, and you as a helicopter mom. Wonder what you’ll do when she’s in college and you can no longer manipulate the system for her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Maybe they are jealous but I understand it. I find it somewhat annoying when people work the system and if all parents decided to hold back their kids to gain an advantage it would get ridiculous. Do you think all parents should hold their kids back to gain an athletic advantage ? Say what you want but these kids would not be getting the attention they are if they played on age.

Yes, they would. All are excellent players. There are some people who just can not stand to see other players receive more recognition than their daughter. If you want a reality check simply look at the schools that made / make offers to your daughter and how much athletic money the school offers. If the player is receiving scholarship offers from North Carolina, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse etc... she is most likely a stud. If the offers come from teams that are outside the Top 20 most years the player is most likely not a top tier player.

Congratulations to each and every player who is recognized by Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... and shame on all miserable bitter parents who want to attack and tear down these players. Remember, it is not the parent or the player that does the "hyping".

If your daughter was that good she would be recognized.

Couple issues with your post . First it’s pompous to say they would be getting the same amount of attention if they played on age and also disparaging of the top players from the year ahead of them .Simply put if they were in college as freshman this year as they are supposed to be none of them would be a lock for being starters let alone seeing a lot of playing time , obviously you would disagree but would be easy to prove you wrong .
When you say it’s not the parent doing the hyping again I think you are being purposely misleading . Of the 3 you have one who has a relative who essentially runs US lacrosse and many believe this has assured her of many of those accolades , you have another whose job is marketing and is very connected in the lax community doing a tremendous job of making his daughter the most highly acclaimed player in the history of high school lacrosse . Not as familiar with the other one but seems a very good athlete as she has many high level awards in other sports so I will go with just a really good athlete .
Yes I am jealous but more so that I did not have the thought or strength to hold mine back . She had many of those offers you referred to playing on age but you can’t help but think imagine how much easier it would have been to do it against younger players .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to lacrosse magazine , not only are your 3 amigos all holdbacks but one cant even play in high school this year because she is too old , ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your Jealousy.

Maybe they are jealous but I understand it. I find it somewhat annoying when people work the system and if all parents decided to hold back their kids to gain an advantage it would get ridiculous. Do you think all parents should hold their kids back to gain an athletic advantage ? Say what you want but these kids would not be getting the attention they are if they played on age.

Yes, they would. All are excellent players. There are some people who just can not stand to see other players receive more recognition than their daughter. If you want a reality check simply look at the schools that made / make offers to your daughter and how much athletic money the school offers. If the player is receiving scholarship offers from North Carolina, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse etc... she is most likely a stud. If the offers come from teams that are outside the Top 20 most years the player is most likely not a top tier player.

Congratulations to each and every player who is recognized by Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse, Under Armour etc... and shame on all miserable bitter parents who want to attack and tear down these players. Remember, it is not the parent or the player that does the "hyping".

If your daughter was that good she would be recognized.

Couple issues with your post . First it’s pompous to say they would be getting the same amount of attention if they played on age and also disparaging of the top players from the year ahead of them .Simply put if they were in college as freshman this year as they are supposed to be none of them would be a lock for being starters let alone seeing a lot of playing time , obviously you would disagree but would be easy to prove you wrong .
When you say it’s not the parent doing the hyping again I think you are being purposely misleading . Of the 3 you have one who has a relative who essentially runs US lacrosse and many believe this has assured her of many of those accolades , you have another whose job is marketing and is very connected in the lax community doing a tremendous job of making his daughter the most highly acclaimed player in the history of high school lacrosse . Not as familiar with the other one but seems a very good athlete as she has many high level awards in other sports so I will go with just a really good athlete .
Yes I am jealous but more so that I did not have the thought or strength to hold mine back . She had many of those offers you referred to playing on age but you can’t help but think imagine how much easier it would have been to do it against younger players .

What he said!!!!

Green is the new black on BOC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Green is the new black on BOC.

19 is the new 17 in girls high school lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Green is the new black on BOC.

19 is the new 17 in girls high school lax

Lol! And helicopter mom is turning into bulldozer mom! Make sure you remove all possible obstacles from your daughter's life, that will carry her far in life.

Why is no-one commenting what an absolute disaster the President’s Cup was this weekend? A serious drop off for those that attended in Orlando in years past. If it was all about the players, it would’ve still been back at ESPN.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Green is the new black on BOC.

19 is the new 17 in girls high school lax

Lol! And helicopter mom is turning into bulldozer mom! Make sure you remove all possible obstacles from your daughter's life, that will carry her far in life.

Why do some of you care so much about the decisions made by other?
We worry about our children. We did not hold any of our children back in kindergarten, we did not re-class any of our children and we have not done nor will we do a PG year but We do not care what others do.

It is really funny listening to the BS about "Age" and "Grade". kids in a grade are not all the same age. The December 1st 2002 birthday and the November 30 2002 birthday will be in the same grade but one child is a year older. Different parts of the country have different school cut-off dates, NY is December 1, other states may be September 1. Kids in a grade are not all the same age. It is an advantage to be older so why is it a bad thing if parents choose to give their child an advantage? To each his or her own.

IMHO some of you simply can't take it when other children (players) receive more recognition than your daughter.

What did you think was a disaster about Presidents Cup?

First year at Presidents Cup. never been to ESPN for any tourneys.
Friday afternoon saw a team at the rental car hall waiting for buses. I hope they made their game! Lines everywhere for everything it being Florida- don't know if Disney would make it any quicker. hurry up and wait!
I just tallied the damage for the weekend - $1500 to fly. We live in the mid Atlantic and this time of year is very expensive to fly to Florida! I know it wont change anything, but I'd rather pay money like that in February not at Thanksgiving when your not staying FL for the holiday. With rental car and hotel this trip was $2000+at Christmas time.
We have the privileges' of not travelling often for lacrosse because lots come to us in the 95 corridor. Is this what its going to cost now that daughter is a recruiting age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Green is the new black on BOC.

19 is the new 17 in girls high school lax

Lol! And helicopter mom is turning into bulldozer mom! Make sure you remove all possible obstacles from your daughter's life, that will carry her far in life.

Why do some of you care so much about the decisions made by other?
We worry about our children. We did not hold any of our children back in kindergarten, we did not re-class any of our children and we have not done nor will we do a PG year but We do not care what others do.

It is really funny listening to the BS about "Age" and "Grade". kids in a grade are not all the same age. The December 1st 2002 birthday and the November 30 2002 birthday will be in the same grade but one child is a year older. Different parts of the country have different school cut-off dates, NY is December 1, other states may be September 1. Kids in a grade are not all the same age. It is an advantage to be older so why is it a bad thing if parents choose to give their child an advantage? To each his or her own.

IMHO some of you simply can't take it when other children (players) receive more recognition than your daughter.

We care what other people do because we think the playing field should be level which is why I think travel lax should be based on age not grade like pretty much every other sport. Again if every parent decided to gain an advantage by holding their kid back it would get out of hand and then whats next entering 9th grade as a 15 year old. If as you say its an advantage to be older why did you not hold yours back, amazing to me that you did not want to give your child every advantage you could.

I would have thought this year's presidents cup would have been better since it wasn't at Disney. This issue at Disney is you were forced to stay at Disney properties which are very expensive and the hotels for the most part aren't very nice. Was very thankful that my daughters 2021 team did not go this year just because of the expense.

Expense is one thing, but pair expense with a complete lack of infrastructure and support for the size of the event they were hosting. People were staying in hotels normally 45 minutes away from venue and they were still sitting in traffic after leaving those hotels at 6AM on a Saturday (for 8AM starts). After the games,they would walk around aimlessly in a grass field looking for their cars b/c there were no markers to remind them where they parked. You couldn't really leave anyway b/c it would take you another 2 hours to get in. High Heat/No Shade. Nowhere to sit and unwind. Not enough Shuttles. Ridiculous lines at food vendors (long, hour+ waits for food). Terrible porta-potty conditions and lines.

All this added stress for parents and players (coupled with the high cost of participating) is something most Parents I talked to will do without next year, especially right before the Holidays.

Lots of problems at President's Cup. Some might be because it's a new venue but hard to say for sure. The parking was terrible. Had to arrive 90+ minutes before games. It was a real cluster. You could not leave in between as a result. Also, they needed more food options. Lines were long at lunch (45 min+). We brought lunch the next day because it just wasn't worth it. Overall they seemed understaffed. Trash piled up. Not enough water jugs. No toilet paper by Sunday.

Medical was very slow to arrive. I watched a girl go down with what seemed to be a serious knee injury and coaches and parents had to carry her off the field. Medical arrived 5 min later.

There were not a lot of hotels near the field complex so people were scattered from Boca to Jupiter to Palm Beach and elsewhere. And you had to stay at the hotels selected. It was hard to get girls together if the team didn't all book at one place. The cheapest option I saw was $140 a night (and that place looked rough) so the cheap Disney motels might have been better.

This was our first year but I would imagine Disney certainly would've been better with transportation given their bus system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Green is the new black on BOC.

19 is the new 17 in girls high school lax

Lol! And helicopter mom is turning into bulldozer mom! Make sure you remove all possible obstacles from your daughter's life, that will carry her far in life.

Why do some of you care so much about the decisions made by other?
We worry about our children. We did not hold any of our children back in kindergarten, we did not re-class any of our children and we have not done nor will we do a PG year but We do not care what others do.

It is really funny listening to the BS about "Age" and "Grade". kids in a grade are not all the same age. The December 1st 2002 birthday and the November 30 2002 birthday will be in the same grade but one child is a year older. Different parts of the country have different school cut-off dates, NY is December 1, other states may be September 1. Kids in a grade are not all the same age. It is an advantage to be older so why is it a bad thing if parents choose to give their child an advantage? To each his or her own.

IMHO some of you simply can't take it when other children (players) receive more recognition than your daughter.

We care what other people do because we think the playing field should be level which is why I think travel lax should be based on age not grade like pretty much every other sport. Again if every parent decided to gain an advantage by holding their kid back it would get out of hand and then whats next entering 9th grade as a 15 year old. If as you say its an advantage to be older why did you not hold yours back, amazing to me that you did not want to give your child every advantage you could.

There is no such thing as a level playing field. No particular reason why we did not hold our children back, never gave it much thought in kindergarten we felt all were ready to go one is a December birthday (we saw how being old for the grade helped) the others are middle of the year and have done just fine although one would have benefited from being held back or re-classed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is no-one commenting what an absolute disaster the President’s Cup was this weekend? A serious drop off for those that attended in Orlando in years past. If it was all about the players, it would’ve still been back at ESPN.

The College Coaches hated it too.

"There is no such thing as a level playing field. No particular reason why we did not hold our children back, never gave it much thought in kindergarten we felt all were ready to go one is a December birthday (we saw how being old for the grade helped) the others are middle of the year and have done just fine although one would have benefited from being held back or re-classed."

The old life's not fair argument , its no excuse for not trying. There is a reason NYSHAA has rules about age .Its an unfair advantage given often to families of greater wealth and there is no reason that travel teams should not be based on age .Why should players be at a disadvantage because their parents did not want to work the system. That said these 3 specific kids will go on to have successful careers and I hope they do but they have received many accolades ,awards, and positions on all star teams at the expense of on age players. There are many kids who are on age who will never receive the honor of ALL American at the end of this season because people take advantage of the season and those awards go to players who should already be in college. Yes that's life but it does not make it stink any less for those kids who otherwise would have been recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"There is no such thing as a level playing field. No particular reason why we did not hold our children back, never gave it much thought in kindergarten we felt all were ready to go one is a December birthday (we saw how being old for the grade helped) the others are middle of the year and have done just fine although one would have benefited from being held back or re-classed."

The old life's not fair argument , its no excuse for not trying. There is a reason NYSHAA has rules about age .Its an unfair advantage given often to families of greater wealth and there is no reason that travel teams should not be based on age .Why should players be at a disadvantage because their parents did not want to work the system. That said these 3 specific kids will go on to have successful careers and I hope they do but they have received many accolades ,awards, and positions on all star teams at the expense of on age players. There are many kids who are on age who will never receive the honor of ALL American at the end of this season because people take advantage of the season and those awards go to players who should already be in college. Yes that's life but it does not make it stink any less for those kids who otherwise would have been recognized.

I guess, I just don't think it is that big of a deal. Have listened to people carrying on about on the boys side for years. In the end it is a personal decision and it is not against any law and it does not break any rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"There is no such thing as a level playing field. No particular reason why we did not hold our children back, never gave it much thought in kindergarten we felt all were ready to go one is a December birthday (we saw how being old for the grade helped) the others are middle of the year and have done just fine although one would have benefited from being held back or re-classed."

The old life's not fair argument , its no excuse for not trying. There is a reason NYSHAA has rules about age .Its an unfair advantage given often to families of greater wealth and there is no reason that travel teams should not be based on age .Why should players be at a disadvantage because their parents did not want to work the system. That said these 3 specific kids will go on to have successful careers and I hope they do but they have received many accolades ,awards, and positions on all star teams at the expense of on age players. There are many kids who are on age who will never receive the honor of ALL American at the end of this season because people take advantage of the season and those awards go to players who should already be in college. Yes that's life but it does not make it stink any less for those kids who otherwise would have been recognized.

I guess, I just don't think it is that big of a deal. Have listened to people carrying on about on the boys side for years. In the end it is a personal decision and it is not against any law and it does not break any rules.

This is true...just don't be bragging about how great your kid is....in the end she's just another a holdback whose parents didn't believe she was good enough to compete against girls her own age. No Jealousy here. My daughter competes just fine playing on age, and has plenty of accolades to prove it.

I don’t think it’s a huge deal but all the same I’d prefer if lax went to birthyear grouping like Club soccer. I’ve seen parents really struggle and stretch themselves to reclass their kid because they thought they had to. I rather no one had that option.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"There is no such thing as a level playing field. No particular reason why we did not hold our children back, never gave it much thought in kindergarten we felt all were ready to go one is a December birthday (we saw how being old for the grade helped) the others are middle of the year and have done just fine although one would have benefited from being held back or re-classed."

The old life's not fair argument , its no excuse for not trying. There is a reason NYSHAA has rules about age .Its an unfair advantage given often to families of greater wealth and there is no reason that travel teams should not be based on age .Why should players be at a disadvantage because their parents did not want to work the system. That said these 3 specific kids will go on to have successful careers and I hope they do but they have received many accolades ,awards, and positions on all star teams at the expense of on age players. There are many kids who are on age who will never receive the honor of ALL American at the end of this season because people take advantage of the season and those awards go to players who should already be in college. Yes that's life but it does not make it stink any less for those kids who otherwise would have been recognized.

I guess, I just don't think it is that big of a deal. Have listened to people carrying on about on the boys side for years. In the end it is a personal decision and it is not against any law and it does not break any rules.

This is true...just don't be bragging about how great your kid is....in the end she's just another a holdback whose parents didn't believe she was good enough to compete against girls her own age. No Jealousy here. My daughter competes just fine playing on age, and has plenty of accolades to prove it.

What a low life you are. And your jealousy comes through loud and clear. Congratulations to any and all kids who are recognized as being outstanding by people who actually know what they are talking about (The college coaches at the top programs, Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse etc...) not big mouth know nothing jealous parents of average players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of problems at President's Cup. Some might be because it's a new venue but hard to say for sure. The parking was terrible. Had to arrive 90+ minutes before games. It was a real cluster. You could not leave in between as a result. Also, they needed more food options. Lines were long at lunch (45 min+). We brought lunch the next day because it just wasn't worth it. Overall they seemed understaffed. Trash piled up. Not enough water jugs. No toilet paper by Sunday.

Medical was very slow to arrive. I watched a girl go down with what seemed to be a serious knee injury and coaches and parents had to carry her off the field. Medical arrived 5 min later.

There were not a lot of hotels near the field complex so people were scattered from Boca to Jupiter to Palm Beach and elsewhere. And you had to stay at the hotels selected. It was hard to get girls together if the team didn't all book at one place. The cheapest option I saw was $140 a night (and that place looked rough) so the cheap Disney motels might have been better.

This was our first year but I would imagine Disney certainly would've been better with transportation given their bus system.

The logistical issues were certainly rough, although they seemed to get a little better each day. I cant imagine that the event organizers didn't notice the problems and should be working on solutions for next year.
the actual location was very nice, the fields were well maintained. I was happy with the hotel options and once away from the sphere of the event i didn't encounter any traffic or overcrowding form the event at local restaurants, wawa etc.
The college coaches turned out and watched just as advertised
The venue by design is really big.
maybe they should reduce the number of teams allowed to play? 1 team per age per club?
it should be easy enough to dd more food/water vendors as there was plenty of room.
More assistance from local authorities to direct traffic is needed and should be possible to arrange.. they may need to reimburse the PD for the needed manpower.
parking was sufficient in size, but getting in and out needs to be fixed. additional exits and entrances to the field are needed.. it was close to getting problematic on Sunday with the early rain.. if that field got a little wetter I imagine a lot of cars getting stuck in the mud.
I agree its a bad time of year to spend $2k on lacrosse, but when is a good time to do so?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"There is no such thing as a level playing field. No particular reason why we did not hold our children back, never gave it much thought in kindergarten we felt all were ready to go one is a December birthday (we saw how being old for the grade helped) the others are middle of the year and have done just fine although one would have benefited from being held back or re-classed."

The old life's not fair argument , its no excuse for not trying. There is a reason NYSHAA has rules about age .Its an unfair advantage given often to families of greater wealth and there is no reason that travel teams should not be based on age .Why should players be at a disadvantage because their parents did not want to work the system. That said these 3 specific kids will go on to have successful careers and I hope they do but they have received many accolades ,awards, and positions on all star teams at the expense of on age players. There are many kids who are on age who will never receive the honor of ALL American at the end of this season because people take advantage of the season and those awards go to players who should already be in college. Yes that's life but it does not make it stink any less for those kids who otherwise would have been recognized.

I guess, I just don't think it is that big of a deal. Have listened to people carrying on about on the boys side for years. In the end it is a personal decision and it is not against any law and it does not break any rules.

This is true...just don't be bragging about how great your kid is....in the end she's just another a holdback whose parents didn't believe she was good enough to compete against girls her own age. No Jealousy here. My daughter competes just fine playing on age, and has plenty of accolades to prove it.

What a low life you are. And your jealousy comes through loud and clear. Congratulations to any and all kids who are recognized as being outstanding by people who actually know what they are talking about (The college coaches at the top programs, Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse, US Lacrosse etc...) not big mouth know nothing jealous parents of average players.

Thanks Holdback Mom

I totally agree some issues are fixable. But I wonder if Disney would just be logically easier since it’s already set up for this. Wouldn’t need a rental car. Traffic and parking issues would be gone. I might pick that over having the freedom to pick any hotel (we ended up in Boca which was fine but a drive).

I definitely wouldn’t support only one team per club. My daughters club fields two competitive teams. Most will go on to play in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would have thought this year's presidents cup would have been better since it wasn't at Disney. This issue at Disney is you were forced to stay at Disney properties which are very expensive and the hotels for the most part aren't very nice. Was very thankful that my daughters 2021 team did not go this year just because of the expense.

Our flights to West Palm were significantly more than flying to Orlando, and my standard run of the mill hotel room cost more than I ever paid at Disney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The college coaches turned out and watched just as advertised

Are you sure? because I heard they were angry they couldn't get from field to field to see all whom they came to see.

Off topic but do you think an individual showcase on Friday before the IWLCA Tournament would be something people would be interested in? I just feel that it's a zoo at the tournament and from a recruiting aspect, its no good. Thoughts..

Originally Posted by laxislife

Off topic but do you think an individual showcase on Friday before the IWLCA Tournament would be something people would be interested in? I just feel that it's a zoo at the tournament and from a recruiting aspect, its no good. Thoughts..

there was one on Friday morning..

President's Cup was the Fyre festival of lacrosse

Originally Posted by laxislife

Off topic but do you think an individual showcase on Friday before the IWLCA Tournament would be something people would be interested in? I just feel that it's a zoo at the tournament and from a recruiting aspect, its no good. Thoughts..

there was one on Friday morning..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The college coaches turned out and watched just as advertised

Are you sure? because I heard they were angry they couldn't get from field to field to see all whom they came to see.

from my vantage point.. yes they were. the top flight of the 2022's had large groups of coaches watching

The 3-4 A pools had a lot of coaches. B and C pools had very little attendance

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxislife

Off topic but do you think an individual showcase on Friday before the IWLCA Tournament would be something people would be interested in? I just feel that it's a zoo at the tournament and from a recruiting aspect, its no good. Thoughts..

there was one on Friday morning..

Are you referring to the one for 7th-12th graders in Lake Worth Fllorida that was for 2 hours w 16 different D1 progeams but 21 total coaches? Not sure how many girls they accepte/allowed to register bc it was sold out but would like to know the player to cosch ratio.

Im talking about a showcaase for 9th-12th Graders with like 45-60 College Coaches (20-25:D1s & the rest D2's/D3's) for at least 4-6 hours on 3 fields so that there are 15-20 College Coaches at each field so players csn be seen while the coaches are down there.

Thoughts?

Are you referring to the one for 7th-12th graders in Lake Worth Fllorida that was for 2 hours w 16 different D1 progeams but 21 total coaches? Not sure how many girls they accepte/allowed to register bc it was sold out but would like to know the player to cosch ratio.

Im talking about a showcaase for 9th-12th Graders with like 45-60 College Coaches (20-25:D1s & the rest D2's/D3's) for at least 4-6 hours on 3 fields so that there are 15-20 College Coaches at each field so players csn be seen while the coaches are down there.

Thoughts?[/quote]

Terrible idea. You’re describing the intent of the IWLCA event - to get as many Coaches as possible to see as many teams as possible in a convenient setting for all. Why would they stick around for Sat and Sun if there’s a huge showcase Friday? Plus how many 9th (or 12th) graders do they really want to see and why would people take an extra day off work and travel an extra day? All the complaints have been about expense and inconvenience right before the Holidays, yet this proposal would increase both.

Originally Posted by laxislife

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxislife

Off topic but do you think an individual showcase on Friday before the IWLCA Tournament would be something people would be interested in? I just feel that it's a zoo at the tournament and from a recruiting aspect, its no good. Thoughts..

there was one on Friday morning..

Are you referring to the one for 7th-12th graders in Lake Worth Fllorida that was for 2 hours w 16 different D1 progeams but 21 total coaches? Not sure how many girls they accepte/allowed to register bc it was sold out but would like to know the player to cosch ratio.

Im talking about a showcaase for 9th-12th Graders with like 45-60 College Coaches (20-25:D1s & the rest D2's/D3's) for at least 4-6 hours on 3 fields so that there are 15-20 College Coaches at each field so players csn be seen while the coaches are down there.

Thoughts?

Yes, I was referring to the above, I was not aware there was even an event and we spent that morning on the beach, I only found out about it prior to our first game from a parent who attended... ( his opinion was that it was crowded with players and tough to stand out )
I would certainly welcome an opportunity to play in an event such as you described.. The players and the coaches are already in town.
I imagine we would need a club or individual with a little clout to set that up..

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

It has been a mess. Hard to play when a dad is coaching from the stands and holding invite only practices and drawing up plays for his kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Hard to believe. Sounds more like you're jealous. and with all those D1 commits I'm sure you will win states and all will be happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

No idea who or what school you are talking about but calling BS on administration being blackmailed into giving an MVP award to avoid a lawsuit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Welcome to girls lacrosse..... Insane no nothing delusional parents... Incompetent coaches.... Spineless and incompetent school administrators..... Happy New Year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Lacrosse is a me first game. This is no different. Sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Lacrosse is a me first game. This is no different. Sad

Gotta be Riverhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Hard to believe. Sounds more like you're jealous. and with all those D1 commits I'm sure you will win states and all will be happy.

Sounds more like you have a kid who no one likes . My kid is not a starter on this team , plays a bunch but has no aspirations of getting higher end of year awards and I just actually want her to enjoy the year .Will not win the states and one of the reasons why is that the team chemistry is toxic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

No idea who or what school you are talking about but calling BS on administration being blackmailed into giving an MVP award to avoid a lawsuit.

You obviously do not know what you are talking about ,if you think this is the first law suit that has been brought or threatened over playing time, awards , etc you are just ill advised. Happens at the collegiate level also.

Serious question. What happened to the big push for girls to wear helmets?? Guess it's not going to happen. Cascade took a bath on this and lots of girls getting made fun of when they wear them. Even though many parents wanted it, the girls who play were almost unanimously against it, and the parents gave up. What a dense idea that was!

Riverhead is not winning states. It’s BBP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead is not winning states. It’s BBP

Why post this ? Yes BBP is going to win it all but that will have no impact on Riverhead as they are in different conferences .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead is not winning states. It’s BBP

is the transfer student from Riverhead or BBP?

Exactly! Different divisions and such a Random comment. Don’t know if any transfers to or from either school. Just randomly irrelevant to this link.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Riverhead is not winning states. It’s BBP

Why post this ? Yes BBP is going to win it all but that will have no impact on Riverhead as they are in different conferences .

BBP is completely loaded at every position. Will be a great season.

They were talking about the complaining to the administration regarding a certain superstar on team, and someone pointed out it was
BBP. Loaded at every position is hysterical and they have been saying they will win states forever.

There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Oh yeah that’s on the boys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were talking about the complaining to the administration regarding a certain superstar on team, and someone pointed out it was
BBP. Loaded at every position is hysterical and they have been saying they will win states forever.

First off no one said it was BBP with the terrible chemistry, clearly talking about Riverhead , team has been a mess forever.
BBP will win states easy this year , C division is weak upstate and it is a down year for the usual C division top schools ie Sinai, CSH. As far as BBP being loaded at every position not really but they are certainly above average at every position. They have several very good players but no top players in my opinion and that can make for a very good team. Teams that rely too much on 1 or 2 players run into trouble when playing other top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were talking about the complaining to the administration regarding a certain superstar on team, and someone pointed out it was
BBP. Loaded at every position is hysterical and they have been saying they will win states forever.

First off no one said it was BBP with the terrible chemistry, clearly talking about Riverhead , team has been a mess forever.
BBP will win states easy this year , C division is weak upstate and it is a down year for the usual C division top schools ie Sinai, CSH. As far as BBP being loaded at every position not really but they are certainly above average at every position. They have several very good players but no top players in my opinion and that can make for a very good team. Teams that rely too much on 1 or 2 players run into trouble when playing other top teams.

Could be bbp. Sounds vaguely familiar.... anyways... go away bbp. All you guys are good at is working the system to get kids placed high on the " Rankings" list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

No idea who or what school you are talking about but calling BS on administration being blackmailed into giving an MVP award to avoid a lawsuit.

You obviously do not know what you are talking about ,if you think this is the first law suit that has been brought or threatened over playing time, awards , etc you are just ill advised. Happens at the collegiate level also.

Yeah, sure it does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Westhampton..lol
PS.. BBP not getting off of the Island. Overated, over promoted kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Hard to believe. Sounds more like you're jealous. and with all those D1 commits I'm sure you will win states and all will be happy.

Sounds more like you have a kid who no one likes . My kid is not a starter on this team , plays a bunch but has no aspirations of getting higher end of year awards and I just actually want her to enjoy the year .Will not win the states and one of the reasons why is that the team chemistry is toxic.

What the Riverhead parent doesn’t understand is that the AA (highest award )are voted on by the head coaches it can’t be just given to a player it is earned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only on here to vent . My kid plays on a fairly successful high school team that is full of D1 commits . The chemistry on the team has been terrible for years and now one of the causes of that has given the administration an ultimatum. Simply put this player and her parents have been outcasts from the rest of the team due to their behavior and were going to move to the neighboring district , the rest of the team would have been better off . Instead they met with the administration to say they were being bullied by the coaches, players , parents and that if their superstar does not receive the highest end of season award on the team there would be a lawsuit . Apparently the administration has caved to their demands , honestly the award thing is ridiculous as who cares and the player is not the best player on the team but the main issue is the team chemistry will be even worse making it another miserable season for these kids . Unfortunately the kids know much of what’s going on and I have had conversations with mine to just ignore the drama.

Hard to believe. Sounds more like you're jealous. and with all those D1 commits I'm sure you will win states and all will be happy.

Sounds more like you have a kid who no one likes . My kid is not a starter on this team , plays a bunch but has no aspirations of getting higher end of year awards and I just actually want her to enjoy the year .Will not win the states and one of the reasons why is that the team chemistry is toxic.

What the Riverhead parent doesn’t understand is that the AA (highest award )are voted on by the head coaches it can’t be just given to a player it is earned.

Not exactly accurate.

Head coaches can nominate "their" player but there is a small committee that decides who (of the nominated players) will be named All-American. It is not as if "all of the coaches vote". Suffolk County (section XI) is allowed "8" AA's by US-Lacrosse and although the majority of players who earn the accolade are deserving the selection process is political and bias. Obviously if a players HS or Club coach is on the committee they have a better chance.

All-County is determined by two factors, 1- where your team finished the regular season and 2 - your high school coach. Where your team finishes the regular season will dictate how many All-County slots your coach gets. The Top Team will obviously receive more slots than lower teams. The coaches do not vote on it.

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

Many of the "lists" are political. There is a top 40 list of LI JRs that have girls with no college commitment. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

Many of the "lists" are political. There is a top 40 list of LI JRs that have girls with no college commitment. .

So what

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

Many of the "lists" are political. There is a top 40 list of LI JRs that have girls with no college commitment. .

So what

Congrats to every player who is recognized but it has gone a little overboard. Starting to be... Everyone gets a trophy. The reality is that there are between 20 - 25 Top Tier players in any give grad year on Long Long Island. There are many good players but there are only so many legit top tier kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

US Lacrosse AA is a joke regardless. Baltimore doesn't even have a US lacrosse chapter so no Baltimore based players are named US Lacrosse AA. Who cares? Kids aren't being recruited based on this. The only real honor is making the UA Senior Team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

US Lacrosse AA is a joke regardless. Baltimore doesn't even have a US lacrosse chapter so no Baltimore based players are named US Lacrosse AA. Who cares? Kids aren't being recruited based on this. The only real honor is making the UA Senior Team.

Is that something new? I did not realize US Lacrosse did not select All-Americans from Baltimore.

As for Long Island, The "19" US Lacrosse All-Americans are (at least from what I have observed) usually legit. 9 from Nassau, 8 from Suffolk and 2 from Catholic schools.

Any given year on Long Island there are a handful of players who could make it (but do not get selected) because they play for either the wrong club or the wrong high school or both.

Agree that UA Senior All-American Team is the highest High School accolade but being one of the 19 US lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island is legit as well.

Good luck to all of the seniors this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
As for Long Island, The "19" US Lacrosse All-Americans are (at least from what I have observed) usually legit. 9 from Nassau, 8 from Suffolk and 2 from Catholic schools. .

is this really the breakdown? so the ninth best player in Suffolk doesn't get AA but the ninth best in Nassau does? shouldn't it go by who the best 19 players are not where they live?
And the privates getting totally snubbed? with 2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

US Lacrosse AA is a joke regardless. Baltimore doesn't even have a US lacrosse chapter so no Baltimore based players are named US Lacrosse AA. Who cares? Kids aren't being recruited based on this. The only real honor is making the UA Senior Team.

That is completely inaccurate. Baltimore and all of Maryland are included in the Mid-Atlantic Region. All 50 states are covered by 8 regions. Local chapters are irrelevant and for that matter, so are the regions when it comes to all-american selections. States and parts of states all have maximum number of all-americans allowed. Coaches submit nominations and all coaches in that state or part of the state vote. District of Columbia (DC, VA, MA) had 21, Maryland- Chesapeake had 10, Maryland- Eastern Shore had 2, Maryland- Howard County had 2, Maryland- Western had 4. Other parts of Virginia had 13. So yes, Baltimore is well represented on the all-american list. You can find the full 2019 list at the US Lacrosse site, players, high school, then 2019 high school girls awards programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
As for Long Island, The "19" US Lacrosse All-Americans are (at least from what I have observed) usually legit. 9 from Nassau, 8 from Suffolk and 2 from Catholic schools. .

is this really the breakdown? so the ninth best player in Suffolk doesn't get AA but the ninth best in Nassau does? shouldn't it go by who the best 19 players are not where they live?
And the privates getting totally snubbed? with 2?

US Lacrosse has a formula, privates make up such a small total population of the schools/players in the area. Impossible to be completely fair with a process used for the entire country. Some entire states get 2...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
As for Long Island, The "19" US Lacrosse All-Americans are (at least from what I have observed) usually legit. 9 from Nassau, 8 from Suffolk and 2 from Catholic schools. .

is this really the breakdown? so the ninth best player in Suffolk doesn't get AA but the ninth best in Nassau does? shouldn't it go by who the best 19 players are not where they live?
And the privates getting totally snubbed? with 2?

It’s based on the number of schools in the section . Being a USLacrosse AA first team on LI is no joke and legit . Say what you want about politics at least the ones picking the players know them . The UA AA senior is also very political and based somewhat on where players committed. and picked in many cases by people who don’t even know the players.i get that being a US lax AA in many regions is a joke but on LI it is not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
As for Long Island, The "19" US Lacrosse All-Americans are (at least from what I have observed) usually legit. 9 from Nassau, 8 from Suffolk and 2 from Catholic schools. .

is this really the breakdown? so the ninth best player in Suffolk doesn't get AA but the ninth best in Nassau does? shouldn't it go by who the best 19 players are not where they live?
And the privates getting totally snubbed? with 2?

Yes on the us lax website those are the numbers. Crazy that the private schools get 3 and catholic schools get 2. I’d also be curious how the catholic league does all league awards. As catholic school kids aren’t eligible for all county. https://www.uslacrosse.org/players/...s/2019-girls-high-school-awards#american

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

US Lacrosse AA is a joke regardless. Baltimore doesn't even have a US lacrosse chapter so no Baltimore based players are named US Lacrosse AA. Who cares? Kids aren't being recruited based on this. The only real honor is making the UA Senior Team.

That is completely inaccurate. Baltimore and all of Maryland are included in the Mid-Atlantic Region. All 50 states are covered by 8 regions. Local chapters are irrelevant and for that matter, so are the regions when it comes to all-american selections. States and parts of states all have maximum number of all-americans allowed. Coaches submit nominations and all coaches in that state or part of the state vote. District of Columbia (DC, VA, MA) had 21, Maryland- Chesapeake had 10, Maryland- Eastern Shore had 2, Maryland- Howard County had 2, Maryland- Western had 4. Other parts of Virginia had 13. So yes, Baltimore is well represented on the all-american list. You can find the full 2019 list at the US Lacrosse site, players, high school, then 2019 high school girls awards programs.

Sorry, but you made my point for me. The Maryland-Chesapeake AA's are selected by the local Cheseapeake chapter. Every AA selected is from Southern MD. Same for the other Maryland Regions. if you look at the list you referenced on the US lacrosse website you will see that not a single AA is from a Baltimore IAAM School(McDonogh, NDP, St. Paul's, Roland Park, etc). Baltimore shut down their US Lacrosse Chapter and hence no longer have any US Lacrosse AA's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
As for Long Island, The "19" US Lacrosse All-Americans are (at least from what I have observed) usually legit. 9 from Nassau, 8 from Suffolk and 2 from Catholic schools. .

is this really the breakdown? so the ninth best player in Suffolk doesn't get AA but the ninth best in Nassau does? shouldn't it go by who the best 19 players are not where they live?
And the privates getting totally snubbed? with 2?

It’s based on the number of schools in the section . Being a USLacrosse AA first team on LI is no joke and legit . Say what you want about politics at least the ones picking the players know them . The UA AA senior is also very political and based somewhat on where players committed. and picked in many cases by people who don’t even know the players.i get that being a US lax AA in many regions is a joke but on LI it is not.

Maybe so, but what is a joke is that there are second and third team US Lacrosse AA's named when they are not in any way associated with US Lacrosse.

What happens If a athlete verbally commits to a university but doesn’t sign a NLI ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

US Lacrosse AA is a joke regardless. Baltimore doesn't even have a US lacrosse chapter so no Baltimore based players are named US Lacrosse AA. Who cares? Kids aren't being recruited based on this. The only real honor is making the UA Senior Team.

That is completely inaccurate. Baltimore and all of Maryland are included in the Mid-Atlantic Region. All 50 states are covered by 8 regions. Local chapters are irrelevant and for that matter, so are the regions when it comes to all-american selections. States and parts of states all have maximum number of all-americans allowed. Coaches submit nominations and all coaches in that state or part of the state vote. District of Columbia (DC, VA, MA) had 21, Maryland- Chesapeake had 10, Maryland- Eastern Shore had 2, Maryland- Howard County had 2, Maryland- Western had 4. Other parts of Virginia had 13. So yes, Baltimore is well represented on the all-american list. You can find the full 2019 list at the US Lacrosse site, players, high school, then 2019 high school girls awards programs.

Sorry, but you made my point for me. The Maryland-Chesapeake AA's are selected by the local Cheseapeake chapter. Every AA selected is from Southern MD. Same for the other Maryland Regions. if you look at the list you referenced on the US lacrosse website you will see that not a single AA is from a Baltimore IAAM School(McDonogh, NDP, St. Paul's, Roland Park, etc). Baltimore shut down their US Lacrosse Chapter and hence no longer have any US Lacrosse AA's.

Sorry, no I did not. I did the USL AA process as a coach last year (not in Md). US Lacrosse chapters and regions have nothing to do with voting on AAs. Please eliminate that from consideration. Now, each school is assigned to an area and all coaches within said area submit nominations and vote. So, you need to determine which area those schools are allocated to, ensure the coach contacts the coordinator for that area and submits the nominations by the deadline and then votes by the deadline. As for the schools you reference, you can go back and look at prior years and they had AAs. It is incumbent upon the coach to ensure they are on the distribution list for the area coordinator, submits timely nominations and then votes by the deadline. Any part of that not going properly can impact a player not getting consideration. It could be that simple. What is interesting is the boys from the DC/Maryland area have very different areas than the girls. That could be something you can push your coach to research and perhaps influence change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes prior post was accurate. US Lacrosse changed the process a few years ago to reduce impact of politics. There is an AA committee but at the end of the day every coach in the county has 1 vote and they collectively decide who the 8 US Lax AA's are. The AA 2nd and 3rd team awards given last year which are not US Lacrosse related and should be called something else are picked by the committee and can be more influenced by politics.

Agree, that the 2nd and 3rd teams should be called something else... if we keep going at this rate every player will be an All-American. I think that their are 400 or 500 hundred US lacrosse All-Americans already.

If they (US Lacrosse) did in fact change it so that every coach in the county gets a vote I think that it is even worse than before... No way that the the HS coaches have a handle on all of the players. I guess they could always go by "stats"...

In the end it does not matter... the only lists that matter are the college coaches lists. Players get to see how they stack up on September 1 of their junior year.

US Lacrosse AA is a joke regardless. Baltimore doesn't even have a US lacrosse chapter so no Baltimore based players are named US Lacrosse AA. Who cares? Kids aren't being recruited based on this. The only real honor is making the UA Senior Team.

That is completely inaccurate. Baltimore and all of Maryland are included in the Mid-Atlantic Region. All 50 states are covered by 8 regions. Local chapters are irrelevant and for that matter, so are the regions when it comes to all-american selections. States and parts of states all have maximum number of all-americans allowed. Coaches submit nominations and all coaches in that state or part of the state vote. District of Columbia (DC, VA, MA) had 21, Maryland- Chesapeake had 10, Maryland- Eastern Shore had 2, Maryland- Howard County had 2, Maryland- Western had 4. Other parts of Virginia had 13. So yes, Baltimore is well represented on the all-american list. You can find the full 2019 list at the US Lacrosse site, players, high school, then 2019 high school girls awards programs.

Sorry, but you made my point for me. The Maryland-Chesapeake AA's are selected by the local Cheseapeake chapter. Every AA selected is from Southern MD. Same for the other Maryland Regions. if you look at the list you referenced on the US lacrosse website you will see that not a single AA is from a Baltimore IAAM School(McDonogh, NDP, St. Paul's, Roland Park, etc). Baltimore shut down their US Lacrosse Chapter and hence no longer have any US Lacrosse AA's.

The chapter should have nothing to do with it. There appears to be boys AAs from Baltimore, shutting down the chapter did not impact them...

Nothing, Verbally doesn't meant a thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing, Verbally doesn't meant a thing.

So the spot is gone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is completely inaccurate. Baltimore and all of Maryland are included in the Mid-Atlantic Region. All 50 states are covered by 8 regions. Local chapters are irrelevant and for that matter, so are the regions when it comes to all-american selections. States and parts of states all have maximum number of all-americans allowed. Coaches submit nominations and all coaches in that state or part of the state vote. District of Columbia (DC, VA, MA) had 21, Maryland- Chesapeake had 10, Maryland- Eastern Shore had 2, Maryland- Howard County had 2, Maryland- Western had 4. Other parts of Virginia had 13. So yes, Baltimore is well represented on the all-american list. You can find the full 2019 list at the US Lacrosse site, players, high school, then 2019 high school girls awards programs.

Sorry, but you made my point for me. The Maryland-Chesapeake AA's are selected by the local Cheseapeake chapter. Every AA selected is from Southern MD. Same for the other Maryland Regions. if you look at the list you referenced on the US lacrosse website you will see that not a single AA is from a Baltimore IAAM School(McDonogh, NDP, St. Paul's, Roland Park, etc). Baltimore shut down their US Lacrosse Chapter and hence no longer have any US Lacrosse AA's.

Sorry, no I did not. I did the USL AA process as a coach last year (not in Md). US Lacrosse chapters and regions have nothing to do with voting on AAs. Please eliminate that from consideration. Now, each school is assigned to an area and all coaches within said area submit nominations and vote. So, you need to determine which area those schools are allocated to, ensure the coach contacts the coordinator for that area and submits the nominations by the deadline and then votes by the deadline. As for the schools you reference, you can go back and look at prior years and they had AAs. It is incumbent upon the coach to ensure they are on the distribution list for the area coordinator, submits timely nominations and then votes by the deadline. Any part of that not going properly can impact a player not getting consideration. It could be that simple. What is interesting is the boys from the DC/Maryland area have very different areas than the girls. That could be something you can push your coach to research and perhaps influence change.

I am well aware that previous years the schools had AAs. As I said, the Baltimore Chapter decided to shutdown last year and now there will not be any AAs from arguably the best conference in the country. In Maryland, for the girls, the chapters do determine the AAs. Not sure why you are arguing this. It may be an honor on LI, but my point was it's a relatively meaningless honor in other places.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
As for Long Island, The "19" US Lacrosse All-Americans are (at least from what I have observed) usually legit. 9 from Nassau, 8 from Suffolk and 2 from Catholic schools. .

is this really the breakdown? so the ninth best player in Suffolk doesn't get AA but the ninth best in Nassau does? shouldn't it go by who the best 19 players are not where they live?
And the privates getting totally snubbed? with 2?

It’s based on the number of schools in the section . Being a USLacrosse AA first team on LI is no joke and legit . Say what you want about politics at least the ones picking the players know them . The UA AA senior is also very political and based somewhat on where players committed. and picked in many cases by people who don’t even know the players.i get that being a US lax AA in many regions is a joke but on LI it is not.

Over the years there has been no more "political" selection process than US Lacrosse All-American especially in Suffolk County. As far as UA goes, for the most part that is selected primarily by the women from IL...
There is input from others but for the most part UA is based off of club performance (top clubs vs top clubs as well as The Under Armour Underclass Games). As far as being based off of where the player is committed I... well that is a question of which came first? the chicken or the egg?

At the end of the day, when you look at the US Lacrosse All-Americans from Long Island and you look at the Under Armour All Americans from Long Island and then you look at the Players from long Island who go to the Top College Programs you are looking at the same players.

There are 19 US lacrosse All-Americans each year from Long Island, there are probably between 5 - 10 Under Armour Senior All-Americans from Long Island, on average over the past 5 years there are 9 or 10 players ranked on the Inside Lacrosse Young Gun Senior Rankings (it used to list 30, then it went to 40 I believe it is now 50 players). Somewhere between 15 - 25 Players from Long Island get recruited by the top programs in the country every year. These players are the same players that are on all the lists, earn the All-American awards and go on to compete for the best programs in the country. There seems to be a lot of agreement on who the top players are from people involved in the sport (although not from the parents). From what I have seen, looking at the players who have graduated college over the past 2 to 3 years as well as the current upper classmen in college the majority of players that were recognized
by US Lacrosse, Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse and the top college coaches at the top college programs have done very well.

We can say it is all political to make ourselves feel better but at the end of the day there are not 100 Top Tier Players every year from Long Island. There are more like 20 - 25 who can be considered legit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is completely inaccurate. Baltimore and all of Maryland are included in the Mid-Atlantic Region. All 50 states are covered by 8 regions. Local chapters are irrelevant and for that matter, so are the regions when it comes to all-american selections. States and parts of states all have maximum number of all-americans allowed. Coaches submit nominations and all coaches in that state or part of the state vote. District of Columbia (DC, VA, MA) had 21, Maryland- Chesapeake had 10, Maryland- Eastern Shore had 2, Maryland- Howard County had 2, Maryland- Western had 4. Other parts of Virginia had 13. So yes, Baltimore is well represented on the all-american list. You can find the full 2019 list at the US Lacrosse site, players, high school, then 2019 high school girls awards programs.

Sorry, but you made my point for me. The Maryland-Chesapeake AA's are selected by the local Cheseapeake chapter. Every AA selected is from Southern MD. Same for the other Maryland Regions. if you look at the list you referenced on the US lacrosse website you will see that not a single AA is from a Baltimore IAAM School(McDonogh, NDP, St. Paul's, Roland Park, etc). Baltimore shut down their US Lacrosse Chapter and hence no longer have any US Lacrosse AA's.

Sorry, no I did not. I did the USL AA process as a coach last year (not in Md). US Lacrosse chapters and regions have nothing to do with voting on AAs. Please eliminate that from consideration. Now, each school is assigned to an area and all coaches within said area submit nominations and vote. So, you need to determine which area those schools are allocated to, ensure the coach contacts the coordinator for that area and submits the nominations by the deadline and then votes by the deadline. As for the schools you reference, you can go back and look at prior years and they had AAs. It is incumbent upon the coach to ensure they are on the distribution list for the area coordinator, submits timely nominations and then votes by the deadline. Any part of that not going properly can impact a player not getting consideration. It could be that simple. What is interesting is the boys from the DC/Maryland area have very different areas than the girls. That could be something you can push your coach to research and perhaps influence change.

I am well aware that previous years the schools had AAs. As I said, the Baltimore Chapter decided to shutdown last year and now there will not be any AAs from arguably the best conference in the country. In Maryland, for the girls, the chapters do determine the AAs. Not sure why you are arguing this. It may be an honor on LI, but my point was it's a relatively meaningless honor in other places.

So how do the boys from that area continue to have AAs? The chapter covered boys and girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens If a athlete verbally commits to a university but doesn’t sign a NLI ?

Nothing happens. The player is free to sign or not sign a National Letter of Intent. Even if the player does sign a NLI they can formally request the Institution grant a full release. In most cases, a release will be granted. If the Coach / Institution choose to block the release the player can appeal the decision.

Verbal commitments go both ways, the coach / school are under no obligation to honor the commitment and the player / parents (parents must sign NLI as well if the player is not 18) are under no obligation to honor the verbal commitment. More time than not it is the player who decides to not follow through on the verbal commitment. I would imagine that with the recruiting changes put in place over the past couple of years we will see fewer de-commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is completely inaccurate. Baltimore and all of Maryland are included in the Mid-Atlantic Region. All 50 states are covered by 8 regions. Local chapters are irrelevant and for that matter, so are the regions when it comes to all-american selections. States and parts of states all have maximum number of all-americans allowed. Coaches submit nominations and all coaches in that state or part of the state vote. District of Columbia (DC, VA, MA) had 21, Maryland- Chesapeake had 10, Maryland- Eastern Shore had 2, Maryland- Howard County had 2, Maryland- Western had 4. Other parts of Virginia had 13. So yes, Baltimore is well represented on the all-american list. You can find the full 2019 list at the US Lacrosse site, players, high school, then 2019 high school girls awards programs.

Sorry, but you made my point for me. The Maryland-Chesapeake AA's are selected by the local Cheseapeake chapter. Every AA selected is from Southern MD. Same for the other Maryland Regions. if you look at the list you referenced on the US lacrosse website you will see that not a single AA is from a Baltimore IAAM School(McDonogh, NDP, St. Paul's, Roland Park, etc). Baltimore shut down their US Lacrosse Chapter and hence no longer have any US Lacrosse AA's.

Sorry, no I did not. I did the USL AA process as a coach last year (not in Md). US Lacrosse chapters and regions have nothing to do with voting on AAs. Please eliminate that from consideration. Now, each school is assigned to an area and all coaches within said area submit nominations and vote. So, you need to determine which area those schools are allocated to, ensure the coach contacts the coordinator for that area and submits the nominations by the deadline and then votes by the deadline. As for the schools you reference, you can go back and look at prior years and they had AAs. It is incumbent upon the coach to ensure they are on the distribution list for the area coordinator, submits timely nominations and then votes by the deadline. Any part of that not going properly can impact a player not getting consideration. It could be that simple. What is interesting is the boys from the DC/Maryland area have very different areas than the girls. That could be something you can push your coach to research and perhaps influence change.

I am well aware that previous years the schools had AAs. As I said, the Baltimore Chapter decided to shutdown last year and now there will not be any AAs from arguably the best conference in the country. In Maryland, for the girls, the chapters do determine the AAs. Not sure why you are arguing this. It may be an honor on LI, but my point was it's a relatively meaningless honor in other places.

So how do the boys from that area continue to have AAs? The chapter covered boys and girls.

The boys are not separated by chapter they are done by county and/or league. Different process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens If a athlete verbally commits to a university but doesn’t sign a NLI ?

Signing an NLI isn't required, and schools can't offer NLIs to non-scholarship athletes. I'm not sure how common it is in lacrosse, but athletes can sign a financial aid agreement for more flexibility instead of an NLI. Maybe that makes sense for an athlete receiving only book money because the NLI is thought to be skewed to favor the school. There is risk in not signing an NLI because a program could pull or change its offer in the meantime, but signing puts an end to the player's recruitment. A player should not sign if he or she has any second thoughts, or if he or she wants to keep the door open for other opportunities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Westhampton..lol
PS.. BBP not getting off of the Island. Overated, over promoted kids.

BBP 3 of the top ten middies on the island, 1 top attack and 1 top defender. They will win C division hands down the only competition is a depleted Mt Sinai team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Westhampton..lol
PS.. BBP not getting off of the Island. Overated, over promoted kids.

BBP 3 of the top ten middies on the island, 1 top attack and 1 top defender. They will win C division hands down the only competition is a depleted Mt Sinai team.

Where is this so called list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Westhampton..lol
PS.. BBP not getting off of the Island. Overated, over promoted kids.

BBP 3 of the top ten middies on the island, 1 top attack and 1 top defender. They will win C division hands down the only competition is a depleted Mt Sinai team.

Where is this so called list?

You don't need a list the talent is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Westhampton..lol
PS.. BBP not getting off of the Island. Overated, over promoted kids.

BBP 3 of the top ten middies on the island, 1 top attack and 1 top defender. They will win C division hands down the only competition is a depleted Mt Sinai team.

Where is this so called list?

You don't need a list the talent is there.

Bert will figure out a way to out coach BBP ... again. BBP always has more talent but that talent has only carried them twice in like 10 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Westhampton..lol
PS.. BBP not getting off of the Island. Overated, over promoted kids.

BBP 3 of the top ten middies on the island, 1 top attack and 1 top defender. They will win C division hands down the only competition is a depleted Mt Sinai team.

Where is this so called list?

You don't need a list the talent is there.

Bert will figure out a way to out coach BBP ... again. BBP always has more talent but that talent has only carried them twice in like 10 years.

BBP beat Bert last year this year will be no different.

^^ dont let him get up by 1... he'll play keep away for the entire game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a transfer from the east end but not from Riverhead

Westhampton..lol
PS.. BBP not getting off of the Island. Overated, over promoted kids.

BBP 3 of the top ten middies on the island, 1 top attack and 1 top defender. They will win C division hands down the only competition is a depleted Mt Sinai team.

Where is this so called list?

You don't need a list the talent is there.

Bert will figure out a way to out coach BBP ... again. BBP always has more talent but that talent has only carried them twice in like 10 years.

BBP beat Bert last year this year will be no different.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I wouldn't count on it.

Sayville is going to surprise people. They are stacked with underrated players. Their youth is finally seasoned and will turn heads this year.

Yuck. Lacrosse parents are truly the biggest losers around. This travel lacrosse thing may be a one (year) and done. How do you stand yourselves? Gross.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yuck. Lacrosse parents are truly the biggest losers around. This travel lacrosse thing may be a one (year) and done. How do you stand yourselves? Gross.

You are correct. Although Lacrosse can provide more opportunity than any other sport for girls and young women, the environment that has been created is toxic. Jealousy, bitterness and detest seem to be the prevailing sentiments of many of the parents associated with this sport. All of my children (boy and girls) play / played multiple sports and nothing compares to girls lacrosse (not even boys lacrosse).

"Bert will figure out a way to out coach BBP ... again."

LOL, he has you fooled too?

Will he pull the goalie and leave the net empty again like last year's championship game?

[quote=Anonymous]"Bert will figure out a way to out coach BBP ... again."

LOL, he has you fooled too?

Will he pull the goalie and leave the net empty again like last year's championship game?

Nobody is accusing Bert of being smart and BBP did shut them out last year. And Mt Sinai had how many UA girls?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"Bert will figure out a way to out coach BBP ... again."

LOL, he has you fooled too?

Will he pull the goalie and leave the net empty again like last year's championship game?

Nobody is accusing Bert of being smart and BBP did shut them out last year. And Mt Sinai had how many UA girls?

There are only about 10 very good high school coaches on Long Island and you are talking about two of them. Both will field competitive teams again this year. I don't believe Mt Sinai had any UA Girls last year.

I’d love to hear the ONLY 10 “very good” coaches on LI.... please list.
UA- Markey and Lamparter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d love to hear the ONLY 10 “very good” coaches on LI.... please list.
UA- Markey and Lamparter

No Under Armour All-American "Seniors"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I’d love to hear the ONLY 10 “very good” coaches on LI.... please list.
UA- Markey and Lamparter

No Under Armour All-American "Seniors"

But Under Armour All-American's on the roster. A couple on the Command team and a couple on the Highlight team yet still got shut out by BBP. Bert keeps over hyping his players the results on the field don't lie.

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

It lost its luster starting a couple of years ago. If you really want bang for your $$$ attend the prospect days or clinics of the schools your daughter may have interest in.

That’s what I’m wondering because we didn't get an invite!😀
We are only 23s and don’t have a real film yet- I pulled something together at the last minute.
Of course I know that we are good enough to be there but upon examining last years rosters, and looking at some of the other “exclusive” camps from last summer-it seems to be a money grab. A light bulb went off when they did the US Lacrosse U15 last summer and half the girls that made it through the $$$ tryouts were from west of the Mississippi.
I’m just letting my daughter play her first year of high school to see where she stands.

Is there a tournament based on individual skills anywhere? That’s the million dollar question...

As Predicted McD pre season number one HS girls lax, US lacrosse. Many others a surprise? Any dark horses?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

It lost its luster starting a couple of years ago. If you really want bang for your $$$ attend the prospect days or clinics of the schools your daughter may have interest in.

I agree. It's a complete money grab. We attended last year and it was a complete waste of money and time. . Hardly any coaches were there and some of the girls that attended were definitely not top 150 in their class. I know of better players who weren't offered an invitation. This is run by CR and there is definitely major politics involved. College coaches see through this and probably the reason why not many attend anymore. Your money is better spent attending clinics/camps at the specific schools your daughter is interested in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

It lost its luster starting a couple of years ago. If you really want bang for your $$$ attend the prospect days or clinics of the schools your daughter may have interest in.

I agree. It's a complete money grab. We attended last year and it was a complete waste of money and time. . Hardly any coaches were there and some of the girls that attended were definitely not top 150 in their class. I know of better players who weren't offered an invitation. This is run by CR and there is definitely major politics involved. College coaches see through this and probably the reason why not many attend anymore. Your money is better spent attending clinics/camps at the specific schools your daughter is interested in.

Agree 100% ....check the list of schools that are in attendance Not a lot. You are totally better off doing clinics or camps your kid is interested in. waste of money

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

It lost its luster starting a couple of years ago. If you really want bang for your $$$ attend the prospect days or clinics of the schools your daughter may have interest in.

I agree. It's a complete money grab. We attended last year and it was a complete waste of money and time. . Hardly any coaches were there and some of the girls that attended were definitely not top 150 in their class. I know of better players who weren't offered an invitation. This is run by CR and there is definitely major politics involved. College coaches see through this and probably the reason why not many attend anymore. Your money is better spent attending clinics/camps at the specific schools your daughter is interested in.

If you notice very few M&D Black girls attend which should say something considering it's run by CR. Stopped being useful when the recruiting calendar changed. When it was held in the winter it was very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As Predicted McD pre season number one HS girls lax, US lacrosse. Many others a surprise? Any dark horses?

McDonogh isn't even going to win their own league this year, let alone the best team in the country. Wouldn't be surprised if they lose their first game to American Heritage. I know it was indoor but my daughter's team played them at Spooky Nook and they didn't impress me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That’s what I’m wondering because we didn't get an invite!😀
We are only 23s and don’t have a real film yet- I pulled something together at the last minute.
Of course I know that we are good enough to be there but upon examining last years rosters, and looking at some of the other “exclusive” camps from last summer-it seems to be a money grab. A light bulb went off when they did the US Lacrosse U15 last summer and half the girls that made it through the $$$ tryouts were from west of the Mississippi.
I’m just letting my daughter play her first year of high school to see where she stands.

Is there a tournament based on individual skills anywhere? That’s the million dollar question...

...its another one of those money grabs that make kids apply....there was no real tryout...stick to events that are geared towards making sure your kid is seen....not worth it at all...look at the previous years rosters ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That’s what I’m wondering because we didn't get an invite!😀
We are only 23s and don’t have a real film yet- I pulled something together at the last minute.
Of course I know that we are good enough to be there but upon examining last years rosters, and looking at some of the other “exclusive” camps from last summer-it seems to be a money grab. A light bulb went off when they did the US Lacrosse U15 last summer and half the girls that made it through the $$$ tryouts were from west of the Mississippi.
I’m just letting my daughter play her first year of high school to see where she stands.

Is there a tournament based on individual skills anywhere? That’s the million dollar question...

smart! Look at the previous years rosters and you know...its a total money grab..look for clinics and camps at schools ..this is BS. You will not be recruited here...especially 2023's they won't be looked at at all...waste of a lot of money!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were talking about the complaining to the administration regarding a certain superstar on team, and someone pointed out it was
BBP. Loaded at every position is hysterical and they have been saying they will win states forever.

First off no one said it was BBP with the terrible chemistry, clearly talking about Riverhead , team has been a mess forever.
BBP will win states easy this year , C division is weak upstate and it is a down year for the usual C division top schools ie Sinai, CSH. As far as BBP being loaded at every position not really but they are certainly above average at every position. They have several very good players but no top players in my opinion and that can make for a very good team. Teams that rely too much on 1 or 2 players run into trouble when playing other top teams.

Could be bbp. Sounds vaguely familiar.... anyways... go away bbp. All you guys are good at is working the system to get kids placed high on the " Rankings" list.

No question. Did you see the list of "Top Players" in Suffolk County. Yes, all very good players, but come on. Some of these kids benefit from school districts with good programs. There are plenty of kids that don't get looked at because of the district they play on and the fact that their coach doesn't push for their kids. I can think of a couple of kids that play on the same travel program as these BBP kids, and are better, but are overlooked on this list. However they carry their own HS teams and don't get the recognition. I'd love to see what some of these kids would do if they had no one to play with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

It lost its luster starting a couple of years ago. If you really want bang for your $$$ attend the prospect days or clinics of the schools your daughter may have interest in.

I agree. It's a complete money grab. We attended last year and it was a complete waste of money and time. . Hardly any coaches were there and some of the girls that attended were definitely not top 150 in their class. I know of better players who weren't offered an invitation. This is run by CR and there is definitely major politics involved. College coaches see through this and probably the reason why not many attend anymore. Your money is better spent attending clinics/camps at the specific schools your daughter is interested in.

If you notice very few M&D Black girls attend which should say something considering it's run by CR. Stopped being useful when the recruiting calendar changed. When it was held in the winter it was very good.

Was every kid that wasn't asked waitlisted? Seems that everyone I asked was waitlisted ....some are really good players? Not sure what the criteria was? Doesn't seem right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

It lost its luster starting a couple of years ago. If you really want bang for your $$$ attend the prospect days or clinics of the schools your daughter may have interest in.

I agree. It's a complete money grab. We attended last year and it was a complete waste of money and time. . Hardly any coaches were there and some of the girls that attended were definitely not top 150 in their class. I know of better players who weren't offered an invitation. This is run by CR and there is definitely major politics involved. College coaches see through this and probably the reason why not many attend anymore. Your money is better spent attending clinics/camps at the specific schools your daughter is interested in.

If you notice very few M&D Black girls attend which should say something considering it's run by CR. Stopped being useful when the recruiting calendar changed. When it was held in the winter it was very good.

Was every kid that wasn't asked waitlisted? Seems that everyone I asked was waitlisted ....some are really good players? Not sure what the criteria was? Doesn't seem right?

From the girls I've heard that were sent invitations and the ones who were "waitlisted"'something seems very fishy. Either their coaches weren't truthful when scoring their girls in order to make their programs look good or there are some serious politics involved. The fact that so many applied makes some of the selections even more suspect. . Either way it totally discredits the event and the college coaches should be asking for refunds. Not a true representation of the top players. Everyone's time is better spent elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As Predicted McD pre season number one HS girls lax, US lacrosse. Many others a surprise? Any dark horses?

I heard that only 14 of the 60 that tried out were able to pass the fitness test (Man U)

Really

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 Worth it? or is it just another one of those money makers....

It lost its luster starting a couple of years ago. If you really want bang for your $$$ attend the prospect days or clinics of the schools your daughter may have interest in.

I agree. It's a complete money grab. We attended last year and it was a complete waste of money and time. . Hardly any coaches were there and some of the girls that attended were definitely not top 150 in their class. I know of better players who weren't offered an invitation. This is run by CR and there is definitely major politics involved. College coaches see through this and probably the reason why not many attend anymore. Your money is better spent attending clinics/camps at the specific schools your daughter is interested in.

If you notice very few M&D Black girls attend which should say something considering it's run by CR. Stopped being useful when the recruiting calendar changed. When it was held in the winter it was very good.

Was every kid that wasn't asked waitlisted? Seems that everyone I asked was waitlisted ....some are really good players? Not sure what the criteria was? Doesn't seem right?

From the girls I've heard that were sent invitations and the ones who were "waitlisted"'something seems very fishy. Either their coaches weren't truthful when scoring their girls in order to make their programs look good or there are some serious politics involved. The fact that so many applied makes some of the selections even more suspect. . Either way it totally discredits the event and the college coaches should be asking for refunds. Not a true representation of the top players. Everyone's time is better spent elsewhere.

This is my take on this. My oldest went last year and my youngest will go this year. It isn't the UA but if you want to get in a good judge on how your daughter stacks up to above average players than it is good. It's better than most of these camps that are a complete waste of time that are full of girls that don't have a chance to play div 1 or college lacrosse. If you think your going to get recruited off of going to UA 150 than it is probably not for you. Want to get a couple days of playing against some good talent than it is worthwhile.

There were 2 M&D Blk girls on EACH team at the UA 150 last year (22's)...not sure what you are looking at

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Money grab. They all are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Glad you had a good experience, but it is a money grab. The price is ridiculously high for playing some games in front of mostly 2nd/3rd tier D1 and D2/D3 coaches. Much better off spending that money going to multiple camps at schools your daughter is interested in. No sour grapes here. My daughter is a 2021 and played in UA150 after 8th grade. Wasn't worth the money then and still isn't. There are several 2021 girls that made the UA150 all star team after 9th grade that aren't even committed. That should tell you something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Not sure who you are specifically responding to but as someone who did give my feedback, let me respond. Someone originally asked about the value of attending the UA150 and I responded not only as a parent of a 2021 player who participated both last year and the year prior but also as a club coach for a well respected Baltimore area club (not M&D) for the past 10 years.

First of all, as a parent I didn't think it was worth it. We participated both years because my daughter wanted to - plain and simple. I don't see the value for the high price of admittance. Sure it was a fun experience but if you are looking at choices for recruiting events, your money is better spent at prospect days and clinics at the individual schools your daughter is interested in. Sure the application is free but you still have to pay to participate. And for the two days worth, it is a high price compared to college's week long camps or the UA All American Underclass Tournament (which my daughter has also participated in). There weren't that many coaches in attendance for the cost and the feedback I have received from some college coaches I personally know from my years of coaching is they don't really consider this a true top 150 list. They see it as a marketing title. The selection process is flawed and the college coaches know it. This is an application based event. And part of that application is getting a score from their coaches after the applications are submitted. This is separate from the coach's recommendation within the application. Coaches don't know who else outside of their program is applying and don't always have to be honest in their score/assessment. They can give a score of 5 (which is the highest) when actually the player is really a 3 or 4 compared to others who have applied. The coach will submit a higher score to appease a parent, club director or to make their program look better (with more attendees). It's not a true evaluation of a player compared to her peers on a field by a group of independent coaches who evaluate based on performance. And as far as your comment about seeing how girls adapt to new situations, that would be the same scenario at every camp, clinic, prospect day or showcase they would attend. This wouldn't be any different. If anything, the application process doesn't allow them to use this in their evaluation. Coaches would rather see a player at their school interacting with their entire coaching staff and team to see how they connect on the field and socially with their entire program. The reality is they will be joining an established team/family and not an entire team of new players like you are stating. My daughter has done the Under Armour Tournament and some other multi-coach recruiting events where the same coaches that attend the UA150 also attend and I believe this is a better value for the money. All are money grabs to some degree but the best value and best evaluated program by far is the UA AA Underclass Tournament. These players have been truly vetted for a day or sometimes two by a group of on field mostly independent coaches. These girls than participate in a callback game at the end of the evaluation where they are further evaluated. These are the girls who are truly the top players in their age group. It's harder for politics to play a role through this process. Many more college coaches attend this tournament and are able to watch the girls on the field vs a combine type event. You can have the fastest shot speed but if you don't have field IQ to maneuver around the best defenders and goalies in your age group than you won't be successful.

As a coach for the 2022 age group I have been very surprised to see which girls have been extended invitations and which ones were waitlisted. It doesn't coincide with who I know to be the best players in this age group. The players and coaches will know this to be true once the 2020 list is published. The evaluation process will need to be adjusted moving forward to include checks and balances if this tournament wants to truly be seen as a Top 150.

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain. Good luck.

Is there really a stick in the swag bag? We’ve done CR tournaments before and there wasn’t anything too swanky, just got to keep the pinnie - I’m mean who wears pinnies walking down the street? Talking about girls here, not boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Not sure who you are specifically responding to but as someone who did give my feedback, let me respond. Someone originally asked about the value of attending the UA150 and I responded not only as a parent of a 2021 player who participated both last year and the year prior but also as a club coach for a well respected Baltimore area club (not M&D) for the past 10 years.

First of all, as a parent I didn't think it was worth it. We participated both years because my daughter wanted to - plain and simple. I don't see the value for the high price of admittance. Sure it was a fun experience but if you are looking at choices for recruiting events, your money is better spent at prospect days and clinics at the individual schools your daughter is interested in. Sure the application is free but you still have to pay to participate. And for the two days worth, it is a high price compared to college's week long camps or the UA All American Underclass Tournament (which my daughter has also participated in). There weren't that many coaches in attendance for the cost and the feedback I have received from some college coaches I personally know from my years of coaching is they don't really consider this a true top 150 list. They see it as a marketing title. The selection process is flawed and the college coaches know it. This is an application based event. And part of that application is getting a score from their coaches after the applications are submitted. This is separate from the coach's recommendation within the application. Coaches don't know who else outside of their program is applying and don't always have to be honest in their score/assessment. They can give a score of 5 (which is the highest) when actually the player is really a 3 or 4 compared to others who have applied. The coach will submit a higher score to appease a parent, club director or to make their program look better (with more attendees). It's not a true evaluation of a player compared to her peers on a field by a group of independent coaches who evaluate based on performance. And as far as your comment about seeing how girls adapt to new situations, that would be the same scenario at every camp, clinic, prospect day or showcase they would attend. This wouldn't be any different. If anything, the application process doesn't allow them to use this in their evaluation. Coaches would rather see a player at their school interacting with their entire coaching staff and team to see how they connect on the field and socially with their entire program. The reality is they will be joining an established team/family and not an entire team of new players like you are stating. My daughter has done the Under Armour Tournament and some other multi-coach recruiting events where the same coaches that attend the UA150 also attend and I believe this is a better value for the money. All are money grabs to some degree but the best value and best evaluated program by far is the UA AA Underclass Tournament. These players have been truly vetted for a day or sometimes two by a group of on field mostly independent coaches. These girls than participate in a callback game at the end of the evaluation where they are further evaluated. These are the girls who are truly the top players in their age group. It's harder for politics to play a role through this process. Many more college coaches attend this tournament and are able to watch the girls on the field vs a combine type event. You can have the fastest shot speed but if you don't have field IQ to maneuver around the best defenders and goalies in your age group than you won't be successful.

As a coach for the 2022 age group I have been very surprised to see which girls have been extended invitations and which ones were waitlisted. It doesn't coincide with who I know to be the best players in this age group. The players and coaches will know this to be true once the 2020 list is published. The evaluation process will need to be adjusted moving forward to include checks and balances if this tournament wants to truly be seen as a Top 150.

I am not sure about the Baltimore area but the Long Island UA AA is 100% political. I know many girls who after going their first year eligible never went back. No independent coaches. While of course many chosen are deserving, it is always heavily weighted with one club while many players just as deserving from other clubs are not selected. That is politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My 2022 was selected for UA150 & also participated last year. Sadly these comments aren't too surprising as lax parents are often salty when their child isn't the "chosen" one. The number of participants has increased substantially because players are talking about what an amazing experience it is. Its amusing but expected to hear folks call it a money grab. It is free to apply & if you're lucky enough to be selected you then pay entry fee which IMO is worth every cent. Although the swag bag is worth the entry fee alone (including a new stick) that is secondary to the exposure girls get to coaches as well as meeting/competing against talented peers from across the country. It speaks volumes of a player's ability when she is able to adapt quickly (or not) to unfamiliar players & coaching styles. The 2019 roster is public & its refreshing to see multiple club teams mentioned not just the familiar power house. Your comment about few M&D players is misleading there are quite a few although, for whatever reason, too many of you see them as the litmus test. In addition, the 2020 coaches is public and many are highly competitive programs and respected academic institutions. Sour grapes to frown upon 2019 attendees as not quality. To suggest the younger girls don't get "noticed" is inaccurate and obnoxious. My 2022 had a handful of coaches from UA150 seek her out this year at President's Cup as a result of her participation over the summer. Moreover, players get a chance to work with coaches intimately in a fast paced environment because they coaching staff changes throughout the two days. Personally, I believe coaches get a unique perspective to evaluate players when they are out of their comfort zone and have to make quick decisions when under pressure w/o the benefit of knowing teammates for years. My daughter is not "connected", neither my husband nor myself have played lacrosse much less coach and she doesn't play for M&D. She is an excellent athlete with a positive attitude and coachable so I assure you she earned roster spot. Please stop poisoning the well just because your daughter wasn't selected you're nothing but a disgruntled malcontent with a fragile ego. Congratulations to the 2022/23 players that were selected its a great experience.

Not sure who you are specifically responding to but as someone who did give my feedback, let me respond. Someone originally asked about the value of attending the UA150 and I responded not only as a parent of a 2021 player who participated both last year and the year prior but also as a club coach for a well respected Baltimore area club (not M&D) for the past 10 years.

First of all, as a parent I didn't think it was worth it. We participated both years because my daughter wanted to - plain and simple. I don't see the value for the high price of admittance. Sure it was a fun experience but if you are looking at choices for recruiting events, your money is better spent at prospect days and clinics at the individual schools your daughter is interested in. Sure the application is free but you still have to pay to participate. And for the two days worth, it is a high price compared to college's week long camps or the UA All American Underclass Tournament (which my daughter has also participated in). There weren't that many coaches in attendance for the cost and the feedback I have received from some college coaches I personally know from my years of coaching is they don't really consider this a true top 150 list. They see it as a marketing title. The selection process is flawed and the college coaches know it. This is an application based event. And part of that application is getting a score from their coaches after the applications are submitted. This is separate from the coach's recommendation within the application. Coaches don't know who else outside of their program is applying and don't always have to be honest in their score/assessment. They can give a score of 5 (which is the highest) when actually the player is really a 3 or 4 compared to others who have applied. The coach will submit a higher score to appease a parent, club director or to make their program look better (with more attendees). It's not a true evaluation of a player compared to her peers on a field by a group of independent coaches who evaluate based on performance. And as far as your comment about seeing how girls adapt to new situations, that would be the same scenario at every camp, clinic, prospect day or showcase they would attend. This wouldn't be any different. If anything, the application process doesn't allow them to use this in their evaluation. Coaches would rather see a player at their school interacting with their entire coaching staff and team to see how they connect on the field and socially with their entire program. The reality is they will be joining an established team/family and not an entire team of new players like you are stating. My daughter has done the Under Armour Tournament and some other multi-coach recruiting events where the same coaches that attend the UA150 also attend and I believe this is a better value for the money. All are money grabs to some degree but the best value and best evaluated program by far is the UA AA Underclass Tournament. These players have been truly vetted for a day or sometimes two by a group of on field mostly independent coaches. These girls than participate in a callback game at the end of the evaluation where they are further evaluated. These are the girls who are truly the top players in their age group. It's harder for politics to play a role through this process. Many more college coaches attend this tournament and are able to watch the girls on the field vs a combine type event. You can have the fastest shot speed but if you don't have field IQ to maneuver around the best defenders and goalies in your age group than you won't be successful.

As a coach for the 2022 age group I have been very surprised to see which girls have been extended invitations and which ones were waitlisted. It doesn't coincide with who I know to be the best players in this age group. The players and coaches will know this to be true once the 2020 list is published. The evaluation process will need to be adjusted moving forward to include checks and balances if this tournament wants to truly be seen as a Top 150.

Thank you both, two excellent posts.

The one constant in this sport is bitter, disgruntled and delusional parents. When their daughter is not recognized they simply can not take it. I doesn't matter if it is UA 150 (which as you say is not the top 150) UA Underclass, School Girls etc... if their daughter is not selected they are bitter and try do diminish the selection process, the event and the players who were selected.

Always sour grapes. Very ugly.

All are money grabs to some degree but the best value and best evaluated program by far is the UA AA Underclass Tournament. These players have been truly vetted for a day or sometimes two by a group of on field mostly independent coaches. These girls than participate in a callback game at the end of the evaluation where they are further evaluated. These are the girls who are truly the top players in their age group. It's harder for politics to play a role through this process. Many more college coaches attend this tournament and are able to watch the girls on the field vs a combine type event. You can have the fastest shot speed but if you don't have field IQ to maneuver around the best defenders and goalies in your age group than you won't be successful.

As a coach for the 2022 age group I have been very surprised to see which girls have been extended invitations and which ones were waitlisted. It doesn't coincide with who I know to be the best players in this age group. The players and coaches will know this to be true once the 2020 list is published. The evaluation process will need to be adjusted moving forward to include checks and balances if this tournament wants to truly be seen as a Top 150.
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This seems like a case of, “To each, his own...”. On LI, the UA AA is completely run by 1 club and, if you don’t have that blue and yellow bumper sticker, good luck. The Coach of that club (Ernie’s roommate) actually went up to the table and handed his list of girls to the evaluators last year and guess which team dominated the callbacks and selections? This is the epitome of politics and connections paving the way so 1 club benefits.

The UA 150 requires a Club Coach and a HS Coach recommendation - if your Sophmore doesn’t know her HS Coach, good luck getting picked. This is a much more independent process that allows individual players to showcase their talents, not get carried through a process b/c they are part of a club that their sister played for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there really a stick in the swag bag? We’ve done CR tournaments before and there wasn’t anything too swanky, just got to keep the pinnie - I’m mean who wears pinnies walking down the street? Talking about girls here, not boys.

As I recall, last year the girls got a UA stick, running shoes, shorts, pinnie, long sleeve shirt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All are money grabs to some degree but the best value and best evaluated program by far is the UA AA Underclass Tournament. These players have been truly vetted for a day or sometimes two by a group of on field mostly independent coaches. These girls than participate in a callback game at the end of the evaluation where they are further evaluated. These are the girls who are truly the top players in their age group. It's harder for politics to play a role through this process. Many more college coaches attend this tournament and are able to watch the girls on the field vs a combine type event. You can have the fastest shot speed but if you don't have field IQ to maneuver around the best defenders and goalies in your age group than you won't be successful.

As a coach for the 2022 age group I have been very surprised to see which girls have been extended invitations and which ones were waitlisted. It doesn't coincide with who I know to be the best players in this age group. The players and coaches will know this to be true once the 2020 list is published. The evaluation process will need to be adjusted moving forward to include checks and balances if this tournament wants to truly be seen as a Top 150.

This seems like a case of, “To each, his own...”. On LI, the UA AA is completely run by 1 club and, if you don’t have that blue and yellow bumper sticker, good luck. The Coach of that club (Ernie’s roommate) actually went up to the table and handed his list of girls to the evaluators last year and guess which team dominated the callbacks and selections? This is the epitome of politics and connections paving the way so 1 club benefits.

The UA 150 requires a Club Coach and a HS Coach recommendation - if your Sophmore doesn’t know her HS Coach, good luck getting picked. This is a much more independent process that allows individual players to showcase their talents, not get carried through a process b/c they are part of a club that their sister played for.
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the Baltimore UA underclass is very political also. the problem is the same people keep applying to be evaluators each year so they only have so many to choose from. To many club coaches with players trying out or have daughters trying out. It's the perception that it gives off that get so many parents pissed of when their kid doesn't make the team. (I am not one of those. my daughter has been on the team the last 2 years)

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there really a stick in the swag bag? We’ve done CR tournaments before and there wasn’t anything too swanky, just got to keep the pinnie - I’m mean who wears pinnies walking down the street? Talking about girls here, not boys.

As I recall, last year the girls got a UA stick, running shoes, shorts, pinnie, long sleeve shirt.

Yes, they started supplying a bunch of swag when coaches stopped coming to make it less offensive to charge what they do.

People on here do t have a clue. Firstly. It is a money grab as too many of theses have emerged leaving parents with no clue which one is legitimate if any. Send your kid to the schools camp that you are interested in period.
Second, this implication that YJ dominates - well the girls on UA from that team are great. You can get on from other clubs to just train with the owners brother and son. It has all become so political that many college coaches know not to give it the credibility it had in the past. Sorry but I had previous evaluators with integrity leave the “evaluations” after being criticized for taking notes and actually trying to do her job - and it was a director from a club - not yj. It’s become about greasin the wheel.

My son was a wrestler. We never had any of this criap where club directors and it is more than just one control the system. I played college basketball in the 89s again no such club influence. Soccer regulates the heck out of birthdates etc. lacrosse lots of bs. The few control the many. It us not just one club director - but only a few directors have too much say either way. Girls who outplay it gets get left off the team. If you even watched the tryouts it is funny when the parents of the “superstars” are getting schooled by motivated talented girls who aren’t from the right town or don’t pay yo train with the club coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All are money grabs to some degree but the best value and best evaluated program by far is the UA AA Underclass Tournament. These players have been truly vetted for a day or sometimes two by a group of on field mostly independent coaches. These girls than participate in a callback game at the end of the evaluation where they are further evaluated. These are the girls who are truly the top players in their age group. It's harder for politics to play a role through this process. Many more college coaches attend this tournament and are able to watch the girls on the field vs a combine type event. You can have the fastest shot speed but if you don't have field IQ to maneuver around the best defenders and goalies in your age group than you won't be successful.

As a coach for the 2022 age group I have been very surprised to see which girls have been extended invitations and which ones were waitlisted. It doesn't coincide with who I know to be the best players in this age group. The players and coaches will know this to be true once the 2020 list is published. The evaluation process will need to be adjusted moving forward to include checks and balances if this tournament wants to truly be seen as a Top 150.

This seems like a case of, “To each, his own...”. On LI, the UA AA is completely run by 1 club and, if you don’t have that blue and yellow bumper sticker, good luck. The Coach of that club (Ernie’s roommate) actually went up to the table and handed his list of girls to the evaluators last year and guess which team dominated the callbacks and selections? This is the epitome of politics and connections paving the way so 1 club benefits.

The UA 150 requires a Club Coach and a HS Coach recommendation - if your Sophmore doesn’t know her HS Coach, good luck getting picked. This is a much more independent process that allows individual players to showcase their talents, not get carried through a process b/c they are part of a club that their sister played for.

the Baltimore UA underclass is very political also. the problem is the same people keep applying to be evaluators each year so they only have so many to choose from. To many club coaches with players trying out or have daughters trying out. It's the perception that it gives off that get so many parents pissed of when their kid doesn't make the team. (I am not one of those. my daughter has been on the team the last 2 years)[/quote]

It is true that one club has the most roster spots for LI UA AA, but all the clubs definitely get represented every year. If you have been paying attention over the last decade plus, it is a well balanced representation of the talent, yes I am saying that the one club does have more talent than the rest year in and year out. The same proportions show up in school ball and awards, and certainly the proportions are held in the Who’s who in D1. Are there politics? Unfortunately yes. But I think unrealistic parents screaming “politics” are a much more rampant problem, than actual politics affecting girls.

I just looked at list of coaches for 2020 UA150 its on their website. UPenn. High Point. Penn State. Jacksonville just to name a few. Ridiculous to claim its lower tier D1 but whatever makes you feel better about not being selected. School specific camps/clinics have their purpose but are also stacked w/ players who know each other so easy to be a rockstar. UA150 has significantly less chance of playing w/ girls you know. UA AA is largely politics outside of LI too & you pay to try out which is the money grab. The evaluators are all from same clique of certain clubs and IMO teams are predetermind. Two hour tryouts aren't nearly enough to determine most deserving and my daughter made team but I can't deny she benefited from her association. Good luck to all

Dont be fooled by those coach lists.. more often than not its a second or third assistant coach or a grad assistant etc..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked at list of coaches for 2020 UA150 its on their website. UPenn. High Point. Penn State. Jacksonville just to name a few. Ridiculous to claim its lower tier D1 but whatever makes you feel better about not being selected. School specific camps/clinics have their purpose but are also stacked w/ players who know each other so easy to be a rockstar. UA150 has significantly less chance of playing w/ girls you know. UA AA is largely politics outside of LI too & you pay to try out which is the money grab. The evaluators are all from same clique of certain clubs and IMO teams are predetermind. Two hour tryouts aren't nearly enough to determine most deserving and my daughter made team but I can't deny she benefited from her association. Good luck to all

I may have misinterpreted what you wrote but it sounds like you said that UA AA is a money grab for charging a tryout fee?? Once you make the team, everything lacrosse wise is FREE; 3 team practices; uniforms, swag bag, and tournament entry is free.
UA 150 it’s free to apply but once you get that BS congrats your daughter was chosen as one of top 150 players in the country..... as long as you pay the $575 fee by Feb 25th. If you don’t pay then she isn’t anymore and one of the girls that weee wait listed will now be in the top 150 ?? Come on
UA 150. $$$$$$$ grab.
UA Underclass games. No more politics that cyo basketball but still mainly the best of the best from Baltimore and LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked at list of coaches for 2020 UA150 its on their website. UPenn. High Point. Penn State. Jacksonville just to name a few. Ridiculous to claim its lower tier D1 but whatever makes you feel better about not being selected. School specific camps/clinics have their purpose but are also stacked w/ players who know each other so easy to be a rockstar. UA150 has significantly less chance of playing w/ girls you know. UA AA is largely politics outside of LI too & you pay to try out which is the money grab. The evaluators are all from same clique of certain clubs and IMO teams are predetermind. Two hour tryouts aren't nearly enough to determine most deserving and my daughter made team but I can't deny she benefited from her association. Good luck to all

I may have misinterpreted what you wrote but it sounds like you said that UA AA is a money grab for charging a tryout fee?? Once you make the team, everything lacrosse wise is FREE; 3 team practices; uniforms, swag bag, and tournament entry is free.
UA 150 it’s free to apply but once you get that BS congrats your daughter was chosen as one of top 150 players in the country..... as long as you pay the $575 fee by Feb 25th. If you don’t pay then she isn’t anymore and one of the girls that weee wait listed will now be in the top 150 ?? Come on
UA 150. $$$$$$$ grab.
UA Underclass games. No more politics that cyo basketball but still mainly the best of the best from Baltimore and LI

Agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked at list of coaches for 2020 UA150 its on their website. UPenn. High Point. Penn State. Jacksonville just to name a few. Ridiculous to claim its lower tier D1 but whatever makes you feel better about not being selected. School specific camps/clinics have their purpose but are also stacked w/ players who know each other so easy to be a rockstar. UA150 has significantly less chance of playing w/ girls you know. UA AA is largely politics outside of LI too & you pay to try out which is the money grab. The evaluators are all from same clique of certain clubs and IMO teams are predetermind. Two hour tryouts aren't nearly enough to determine most deserving and my daughter made team but I can't deny she benefited from her association. Good luck to all

I may have misinterpreted what you wrote but it sounds like you said that UA AA is a money grab for charging a tryout fee?? Once you make the team, everything lacrosse wise is FREE; 3 team practices; uniforms, swag bag, and tournament entry is free.
UA 150 it’s free to apply but once you get that BS congrats your daughter was chosen as one of top 150 players in the country..... as long as you pay the $575 fee by Feb 25th. If you don’t pay then she isn’t anymore and one of the girls that weee wait listed will now be in the top 150 ?? Come on
UA 150. $$$$$$$ grab.
UA Underclass games. No more politics that cyo basketball but still mainly the best of the best from Baltimore and LI

Agree.

From someone whose daughter has participated in both I 100% agree! UA150 is the big money grab and joke. UA Underclass are the true best of the best. And it doesn't matter if your daughter is playing with friends. The chance of being on a small team with only her friends within the UA Underclass tryouts would be almost impossible. She's lucky if she even has 1 girl on her tryout team that she plays with on a regular basis. The fact that they are actually playing on a field to be evaluated vs an application and 5 minute video tells you everything you need to know about the evaluation process. Even with club and high school coaches submitting their written recommendation, the true evaluation of girl vs girl can only be done on a field. It's hard to compare written applications of 1000+ girls alone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked at list of coaches for 2020 UA150 its on their website. UPenn. High Point. Penn State. Jacksonville just to name a few. Ridiculous to claim its lower tier D1 but whatever makes you feel better about not being selected. School specific camps/clinics have their purpose but are also stacked w/ players who know each other so easy to be a rockstar. UA150 has significantly less chance of playing w/ girls you know. UA AA is largely politics outside of LI too & you pay to try out which is the money grab. The evaluators are all from same clique of certain clubs and IMO teams are predetermind. Two hour tryouts aren't nearly enough to determine most deserving and my daughter made team but I can't deny she benefited from her association. Good luck to all

Lol. Don't need to feel better about anything. My daughter is a 2021 and happily committed. She attended UA150 the summer after 8th grade. It was a joke in terms of the coaches that actually showed up. The was selected the next summer but we decided it wasn't worth the $575 and figured that money would be better spent on other camps. She has also been on the last 2 Baltimore UA AA teams. You can't even compare UA150 and UA AA. One is a total money grab filled with mostly second tier girls. Look at the rosters and all star teams. The other, while political like every other "all star" team, is the best event of the summer for recruiting and is free other than the tryout fee.

If you think it's wise to spend the $575 on UA150 go ahead. It's not my money. I think most 2021 parents would agree that UA 150 is no longer relevant. If I'm not mistaken Nike 120 doesn't even exist anymore. There's a reason for that. Coaches don't attend anymore because it's in the summer now. When those events were in the winter coaches would come because it was during their downtime.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dont be fooled by those coach lists.. more often than not its a second or third assistant coach or a grad assistant etc..

The assistant coach’s are heavily involved in the recruitment process especially in the beginning when evaluating talent for their original list. Head coaches will always make the final decision but largely rely on their assistance evaluations.

UA 150 is a money grab and mostly go to goal mentality by a couple studs on each team. My recommendation is to spend the $ on a few select camps at schools your daughter is interested in and don't wait until the summer before your Junior year.

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

if you have money to burn....it couldn't hurt. then do it and good luck to your kid. But if you are really look to invest in your kids potential college looks, spend it on the prospect camps that your kid specifically want to go to. I have yet to hear of anyone that is recruited from any of these things..thats the advice Ive been given time and again....I think all the advice has been good on this page. Very thoughtful responses from people that have had their kid attend. Go see what they are saying on the Warrior games...Not just sour grapes. Its hard to navigate all this..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

if you have money to burn....it couldn't hurt. then do it and good luck to your kid. But if you are really look to invest in your kids potential college looks, spend it on the prospect camps that your kid specifically want to go to. I have yet to hear of anyone that is recruited from any of these things..thats the advice Ive been given time and again....I think all the advice has been good on this page. Very thoughtful responses from people that have had their kid attend. Go see what they are saying on the Warrior games...Not just sour grapes. Its hard to navigate all this..

Thank you for this response! I have appreciated everyone’s responses on this page and have not considered it to be combative. Not sure what this person has seen as so negative. They obviously haven’t seen the other forums 😂

I think it boils down to what your daughter wants. There is nothing wrong with playing games for 2 days in front of many colleges - it's exposure. Period. You have no idea if anyone has been recruited from being seen at the UA 150, a school could notice you there and then continue to want to seek you out at other events due to what they saw at 150. Going to camps/clinics at the schools that you are 100% interested is a must, but doing these events (if given the option) is also relevant and looks good on your "resume". Again, its exposure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

if you have money to burn....it couldn't hurt. then do it and good luck to your kid. But if you are really look to invest in your kids potential college looks, spend it on the prospect camps that your kid specifically want to go to. I have yet to hear of anyone that is recruited from any of these things..thats the advice Ive been given time and again....I think all the advice has been good on this page. Very thoughtful responses from people that have had their kid attend. Go see what they are saying on the Warrior games...Not just sour grapes. Its hard to navigate all this..

Thank you for this response! I have appreciated everyone’s responses on this page and have not considered it to be combative. Not sure what this person has seen as so negative. They obviously haven’t seen the other forums 😂

I agree with most and will just add my $.02. I have played and have girls that play and my one daughter played on the UA underclass command team last summer and nothing compares to that in my humble opinion. The best players (politics aside) If you are one of the top 15 players from LI or Baltimore you will make the team; girl 27 might make it over girl 20. That said the competes great and coaches are all over. I saw Reese, and UNC, Northwestern, Cuse. Basically the whose who of D1.
Plus it’s FREE outside the tryout fee.
Now UA 150 will have some very good players but it’s midweek in the heart of tourney season. So if you do have $575 to burn go ahead; it won’t hurt but it definitely has become watered down over the years.
Bottom line is if your daughter is really good; she will be found!
And at the end of the day enjoy it and have fun; lacrosse is an awesome sport, Stop constantly worrying about who is watching and just go out and enjoy this great sport. Good luck to everyone’s daughter.

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Should be quite a few spots. I know many girls who turned down the invitation because it’s not worth the high price of admission.

Do you know if they have started to go to waitlisted girls ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Should be quite a few spots. I know many girls who turned down the invitation because it’s not worth the high price of admission.

That's interesting, they knew the price of the event when they applied. So they turned down the invite after being accepted because of the high cost they knew about before they applied?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Should be quite a few spots. I know many girls who turned down the invitation because it’s not worth the high price of admission.

That's interesting, they knew the price of the event when they applied. So they turned down the invite after being accepted because of the high cost they knew about before they applied?

It's all ego! and many say they got the invite but aren't going, but they never did get the invite. If your waitlisted get your club coach to reach out for you, those are the waitlisted girls who get called.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Should be quite a few spots. I know many girls who turned down the invitation because it’s not worth the high price of admission.

That's interesting, they knew the price of the event when they applied. So they turned down the invite after being accepted because of the high cost they knew about before they applied?

It's all ego! and many say they got the invite but aren't going, but they never did get the invite. If your waitlisted get your club coach to reach out for you, those are the waitlisted girls who get called.

Actually not true. The ones I know were required to apply this year because their club dictated it but based on either personal experience or feedback from those who did attend before, they would rather spend that money elsewhere. The cost can equal the same as two recruiting events or prospect days. Not everyone has a lot of spare money to spend on recruiting events and would rather spend it elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Should be quite a few spots. I know many girls who turned down the invitation because it’s not worth the high price of admission.

That's interesting, they knew the price of the event when they applied. So they turned down the invite after being accepted because of the high cost they knew about before they applied?

It's all ego! and many say they got the invite but aren't going, but they never did get the invite. If your waitlisted get your club coach to reach out for you, those are the waitlisted girls who get called.

Actually not true. The ones I know were required to apply this year because their club dictated it but based on either personal experience or feedback from those who did attend before, they would rather spend that money elsewhere. The cost can equal the same as two recruiting events or prospect days. Not everyone has a lot of spare money to spend on recruiting events and would rather spend it elsewhere.

So the club dictated they apply but not attend if they were invited? The stories around this insignificant event get crazier with each response.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Should be quite a few spots. I know many girls who turned down the invitation because it’s not worth the high price of admission.

That's interesting, they knew the price of the event when they applied. So they turned down the invite after being accepted because of the high cost they knew about before they applied?

It's all ego! and many say they got the invite but aren't going, but they never did get the invite. If your waitlisted get your club coach to reach out for you, those are the waitlisted girls who get called.

Actually not true. The ones I know were required to apply this year because their club dictated it but based on either personal experience or feedback from those who did attend before, they would rather spend that money elsewhere. The cost can equal the same as two recruiting events or prospect days. Not everyone has a lot of spare money to spend on recruiting events and would rather spend it elsewhere.

So the club dictated they apply but not attend if they were invited? The stories around this insignificant event get crazier with each response.

Yes. I’m guessing they assumed they would just drink the kool aid and attend as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA150 will go to its waitlist?

Should be quite a few spots. I know many girls who turned down the invitation because it’s not worth the high price of admission.

That's interesting, they knew the price of the event when they applied. So they turned down the invite after being accepted because of the high cost they knew about before they applied?

It's all ego! and many say they got the invite but aren't going, but they never did get the invite. If your waitlisted get your club coach to reach out for you, those are the waitlisted girls who get called.

Actually not true. The ones I know were required to apply this year because their club dictated it but based on either personal experience or feedback from those who did attend before, they would rather spend that money elsewhere. The cost can equal the same as two recruiting events or prospect days. Not everyone has a lot of spare money to spend on recruiting events and would rather spend it elsewhere.

So the club dictated they apply but not attend if they were invited? The stories around this insignificant event get crazier with each response.

they prob can't get 150 to even attend

I'm not understanding how it's a waste of money? All the summer camps run around the same amount (in the $500's). Those are typically for a single college to see you and your mixed in with girls that can and/or can not play AND it's usually a hundred or more girls to be seen. This is 2 days of playing nothing but games, it's 75 girls per grade...and the list of many colleges attending is impressive (and YES, they do attend). Yes, there are clinics that are less expensive ($200-$300) but that is only 2-4 hours of running short drills, etc..
Why would you apply for something knowing what the price is going to be going in? Why would your club "dictate" you applying but then not attend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not understanding how it's a waste of money? All the summer camps run around the same amount (in the $500's). Those are typically for a single college to see you and your mixed in with girls that can and/or can not play AND it's usually a hundred or more girls to be seen. This is 2 days of playing nothing but games, it's 75 girls per grade...and the list of many colleges attending is impressive (and YES, they do attend). Yes, there are clinics that are less expensive ($200-$300) but that is only 2-4 hours of running short drills, etc..
Why would you apply for something knowing what the price is going to be going in? Why would your club "dictate" you applying but then not attend?

Yes camps are about the same price, but many camps have several coaches there, not just the coaches of that school. UNC summer camp is really good for instance. But I think most are referring to prospect days at schools as opposed to full camps. You can easily send your daughter to 2 or 3 school prospect days for the price of UA150.

All you have to do is look at the 2021 girls that attended last year. https://www.underarmour150.com/index.cfm?do=cnt.page&pg=1019

Very few of the top 2021 players attended in 2019 or 2018. Many of the girls on that roster list are not committed and the top schools are done with the 2021 class. Again, it's your money. If you think it makes sense for your daughter then go for it. I just would have realistic expectations of what your return on investment will be. That money can be spent in better ways imo based on my daughter's and many of her teammates recruiting journey.

Your daughter is a 2021 but summer after 8th grade she was UA150? Its for rising sophomores & juniors not sure how thats possible she was selected in 8th grade? Total waste of money to pay $150 for UA AA when teams are pre determined. Of course its free if you make it everyone else paid your daughter's dues. notIntelligent to suggest girls turned it down who were waitlisted why bother applying? I think most of those claiming they were waitlisted were rejected. Again rosters, commits, coaches all available online along w/ parisi results. Lacrosse parents are fragile

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your daughter is a 2021 but summer after 8th grade she was UA150? Its for rising sophomores & juniors not sure how thats possible she was selected in 8th grade? Total waste of money to pay $150 for UA AA when teams are pre determined. Of course its free if you make it everyone else paid your daughter's dues. notIntelligent to suggest girls turned it down who were waitlisted why bother applying? I think most of those claiming they were waitlisted were rejected. Again rosters, commits, coaches all available online along w/ parisi results. Lacrosse parents are fragile

The UA150 changed 2 years ago. In 2017 it was for rising 9th and 10th graders. In 2018 it was changed to rising 10th and 11th graders. So the 2021 class actually had 3 opportunities to attend UA150. Most of the top players went in 2017, the summer after their 8th grade. After realizing what a terrible money grab it was most of the top players did not attend the last two years. If you speak to any 2021 parent from M&D, SW, YJ, Heros, etc you will be told to save your money and not go to UA 150. Of course many of those girls are the ones you falsely claim are pre determined to make the UA AA teams. Like I said in a previous post, there's a reason Nike 120 folded. The coaches no longer support it now that it is midweek in the summer as opposed to the winter. Spooky Nook Indoors were started because CR already had it reserved for the UA150 when the recruiting calendar got changed in 2017. I'm not trying to tell people how to spend their money. People asked for opinions on the event. Considering the 2021 class had 3 chances to attend I would think our class parents would have the most insight. You do what you choose.

SWR was just closed today for fears of Coronavirus. What will happen to all of the sports because FEAR of a virus like the flu is sending everyone into panic mode? Why isn't this done with flu outbreaks? Why the hysteria? It's not ebola…

Anyone have insight on the Apex 60 for girls?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have insight on the Apex 60 for girls?

This is the first year ,so there is zero experience. If one or more of the schools listed is on your radar it could be worth a shot.
It is open for 2021 through 2024 classes.. i doubt any one is looking past grad year 2022 at this point so talk that into consideration also.

No offense, but after girls get to about 8th grade, “Superstar” clinics become a money grab. This camp needs to headline with the schools attending and not the headliners.

Anyone have light rosters this year? Our YJ HS coach has driven away the middle to bottom of the roster by not giving them playing time and they have all quit. Now we have trouble getting enough girls to scrimmage. When will these coaches learn that padding stats and minutes in blowout games hurts the overall team

We just got accepted into the apex 60 this morning. I haven’t read the fine print but are these fees insured? I know about the injury disclaimers but I’m talking cxed for the corona virus. They shouldn’t even ask people to make a decision until a month from now because of all of this.
I have three days to make decision.

The first flip of the 2021 class from Navy to Hopkins. How many more will there be?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The first flip of the 2021 class from Navy to Hopkins. How many more will there be?

Who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The first flip of the 2021 class from Navy to Hopkins. How many more will there be?

Who?

People don't list kids names on here. They're minors. She's a good player from LI. The girls know. Ask your daughter. She posted on her IG so it's not a secret.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The first flip of the 2021 class from Navy to Hopkins. How many more will there be?

Who?

People don't list kids names on here. They're minors. She's a good player from LI. The girls know. Ask your daughter. She posted on her IG so it's not a secret.

Not surprised, she committed when she was like nine. If you recall it was a big issue on these boards with respect to how inappropriate it was to commit to a service academy in the 8th grade.

Plus her sister bailed on academy and is now at a SUNY school

Plus there’s a family history of not keeping to your word.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Plus there’s a family history of not keeping to your word.

No reason to rip the kid or her family. Her flipping is a prime example of why change was needed to recruiting. Kids shouldn't need to make a decision like committing to a service academy in 8th grade.

Question for position: "Which position has a better chance for college recruit?"

My daugther used to play mid field, she was good but this year a couple of better middles join her teams, our coach played her more on attack (actually most of the time) than middle field. We struggled to decide which position to focus on, middle or attack. She still like middle because she think that is what she is good at.

Many factors to think about, however which position has more chance for college recruiting is what I don't know, and really appreciate if anyone has more experience would suggest.

She is a 9th grader now.

Thank you so much.

Colleges love players that score points. Period. Everything else is just window dressing. I wish it was more broad but it really isn’t. My kid plays defense, and well.

Agree, the positions are the same in college as HS and if you have a recruitable asset (size, speed, shot, athleticism, etc etc) it should not matter period.

Where kids get lost is when they play soft or don't take the right kind of chances when being watched, too many kids that are average need to separate from the herd and get lost in the masses when coaches watch games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Plus there’s a family history of not keeping to your word.

No reason to rip the kid or her family. Her flipping is a prime example of why change was needed to recruiting. Kids shouldn't need to make a decision like committing to a service academy in 8th grade.

There is plenty of reason to rip the family mainly her dad. Has always been a complete weasel with working politics in both travel and his local youth town teams . Was able to coach his daughters teams while knowing nothing about lacrosse and setting a horrendous example for the kids who he coached.

College coaches recruit athletes with field IQ. There are not looking at what positions they are playing in HS/Club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coaches recruit athletes with field IQ. There are not looking at what positions they are playing in HS/Club

Wrong , and yes that little [ChillLaxin] of a coach ( did not say man for a reason) has always been a weasel . Not sure who I feel worse for his wife , or him as they are both gross . His kids never had a chance to stand by their verbal commitment as they were taught from an early age that your word means nothing . He teamed up with a wife beater to become two of the worst roll models to have ever coached on LI and YJ should be embarrassed. Yes I realize this post is not nice but they earned it and I would have no problem telling them to their face . CR tolerated these two losers so her son could go to a district they did not live in and this lost would look the other way . The reason I point this out is so they don’t post any non sense back as they know the ugly truth .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Colleges love players that score points. Period. Everything else is just window dressing. I wish it was more broad but it really isn’t. My kid plays defense, and well.

And well what? My kid plays defense and had several options.

Here we go...major recruiting tournaments getting cancelled including Presidents cup in November!

So confused. CSE is still holding tournaments. Will the coaches come?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So confused. CSE is still holding tournaments. Will the coaches come?

The other CSE tournaments aren't well attended by college coaches. It's good to see just how greedy people will be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So confused. CSE is still holding tournaments. Will the coaches come?

The other CSE tournaments aren't well attended by college coaches. It's good to see just how greedy people will be.

IWLCA does not own rights, sponsorships, dates or locations of these tournaments. Plus CSE does much of the organizational work anyway. Of course the IWLCA has the "coaching connection", but coaches will be there. These are the tournaments that get a lot of obscure talent.

There's competition now.

http://livelovelaxtour.com/lll-florida

Really interesting. On the one hand competition could be great...on the other everything is messed up
For the 2022s. Now they have to choose between two competing tournaments. With all the other unknowns. That stinks.

Live Love Lax Florida is an invite-only recruiting showcase.

"Invitation only event for the best clubs in the country."
"Grad Years: 2022 & 2023 only"
"62 Team Maximum"

It's not really a choice between 2 competing tournaments.

For LLL, it's the tournament organizers who are choosing which clubs they are willing to let in. It will be just another battle between the "haves" and the "have-nots."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really interesting. On the one hand competition could be great...on the other everything is messed up
For the 2022s. Now they have to choose between two competing tournaments. With all the other unknowns. That stinks.

If you look at the organizers for the LLL tournament, they will get a talented draw, especially since it’s a great cause. The other tournament would still get all of the teams that wouldn’t clear registration. It’s a win/win. Head coaches at one and assistants at the other. 90 min apart. Very strategic marketing.

Will the coaches come? If the IWLCA won’t run tournaments for the health and safety of the players how do go to tournaments or even watch film from there?

If the IWLCA cancels their winter meetings, then I doubt many college coaches will attend.

I think this creates even more unnecessary uncertainty.

1. We don't know if the IWLCA will hold its annual meeting. Depending on the conditions, it might seem hypocritical to say that it is unsafe for HS player and their families to participate in an outdoor tournament in November, while encouraging 1000 college coaches (many of whom are older than me) to gather at an INDOOR facility. If IWLCA cancels their annual meeting, will coaches even travel to Florida?

2. The travel time from Wellington, FL to Naples, Fl is over 2 hours. A large part of the route is driving through the Everglades, so there is no midpoint area to stay. I would think the coaches would have to split up if they want to attend both. Last November, i spent over $1000 on lodging, airfare, and car rental. Given the cost and the current economic environment, I don't think you can assume they can afford to visit both locations Door_Open_And they decide to travel to FL. Which one do they choose if they can only pick one? LLL Florida with 20% of the 2022s playing? The top clubs are supposedly going to LLL, but not every club that gets invited is actually a top club. I'm also assuming that most clubs are also bringing their B or even C teams, too. Or Presidents Cup with 80% of the 2022s playing?

It was a lot simpler last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this creates even more unnecessary uncertainty.

1. We don't know if the IWLCA will hold its annual meeting. Depending on the conditions, it might seem hypocritical to say that it is unsafe for HS player and their families to participate in an outdoor tournament in November, while encouraging 1000 college coaches (many of whom are older than me) to gather at an INDOOR facility. If IWLCA cancels their annual meeting, will coaches even travel to Florida?

2. The travel time from Wellington, FL to Naples, Fl is over 2 hours. A large part of the route is driving through the Everglades, so there is no midpoint area to stay. I would think the coaches would have to split up if they want to attend both. Last November, i spent over $1000 on lodging, airfare, and car rental. Given the cost and the current economic environment, I don't think you can assume they can afford to visit both locations Door_Open_And they decide to travel to FL. Which one do they choose if they can only pick one? LLL Florida with 20% of the 2022s playing? The top clubs are supposedly going to LLL, but not every club that gets invited is actually a top club. I'm also assuming that most clubs are also bringing their B or even C teams, too. Or Presidents Cup with 80% of the 2022s playing?

It was a lot simpler last year.

Coaches are going to be focused on the 2023s because there will be a glut of girls in college teams due to the extra year of eligibility. 2021s have it worst, they really got screwed if they’re not already committed or are elite!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this creates even more unnecessary uncertainty.

1. We don't know if the IWLCA will hold its annual meeting. Depending on the conditions, it might seem hypocritical to say that it is unsafe for HS player and their families to participate in an outdoor tournament in November, while encouraging 1000 college coaches (many of whom are older than me) to gather at an INDOOR facility. If IWLCA cancels their annual meeting, will coaches even travel to Florida?

2. The travel time from Wellington, FL to Naples, Fl is over 2 hours. A large part of the route is driving through the Everglades, so there is no midpoint area to stay. I would think the coaches would have to split up if they want to attend both. Last November, i spent over $1000 on lodging, airfare, and car rental. Given the cost and the current economic environment, I don't think you can assume they can afford to visit both locations Door_Open_And they decide to travel to FL. Which one do they choose if they can only pick one? LLL Florida with 20% of the 2022s playing? The top clubs are supposedly going to LLL, but not every club that gets invited is actually a top club. I'm also assuming that most clubs are also bringing their B or even C teams, too. Or Presidents Cup with 80% of the 2022s playing?

It was a lot simpler last year.

Coaches are going to be focused on the 2023s because there will be a glut of girls in college teams due to the extra year of eligibility. 2021s have it worst, they really got screwed if they’re not already committed or are elite!

Not sure about. The 2023s are just as affected by the extra year of eligibility as the 2022s. This year's college freshmen are capable of taking positions from the 2023s just as this year's college sophomores are capable of doing the same thing to the 2022s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really interesting. On the one hand competition could be great...on the other everything is messed up
For the 2022s. Now they have to choose between two competing tournaments. With all the other unknowns. That stinks.

If you look at the organizers for the LLL tournament, they will get a talented draw, especially since it’s a great cause. The other tournament would still get all of the teams that wouldn’t clear registration. It’s a win/win. Head coaches at one and assistants at the other. 90 min apart. Very strategic marketing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really interesting. On the one hand competition could be great...on the other everything is messed up
For the 2022s. Now they have to choose between two competing tournaments. With all the other unknowns. That stinks.

If you look at the organizers for the LLL tournament, they will get a talented draw, especially since it’s a great cause. The other tournament would still get all of the teams that wouldn’t clear registration. It’s a win/win. Head coaches at one and assistants at the other. 90 min apart. Very strategic marketing.

From what I’ve heard they’ve reached out to most clubs to see if they would attend. They only market it as “invite only” to make it enticing and a reason to not attend President’s Cup. They saw an opportunity because of the issues that occurred at PC last year. One event will not be superior to another. Lax parents are so easily fooled by their ego.

Well, my kid plays well. Good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coaches recruit athletes with field IQ. There are not looking at what positions they are playing in HS/Club

Wrong , and yes that little [ChillLaxin] of a coach ( did not say man for a reason) has always been a weasel . Not sure who I feel worse for his wife , or him as they are both gross . His kids never had a chance to stand by their verbal commitment as they were taught from an early age that your word means nothing . He teamed up with a wife beater to become two of the worst roll models to have ever coached on LI and YJ should be embarrassed. Yes I realize this post is not nice but they earned it and I would have no problem telling them to their face . CR tolerated these two losers so her son could go to a district they did not live in and this lost would look the other way . The reason I point this out is so they don’t post any non sense back as they know the ugly truth .

So I sat back fully expecting one of the midgets trolls to come on here and defend him . What I now see is that this superintendent /daddy coach is such a hated and despised human that no one comes to his defense not even his comare . Him and his wife were terrible role models and YJ should be disgusted. Please say something back about KC so I can tell all the truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really interesting. On the one hand competition could be great...on the other everything is messed up
For the 2022s. Now they have to choose between two competing tournaments. With all the other unknowns. That stinks.

Any coaches still looking for 2021 would go to PC. For majority of schools, girls will not take the 5th year. For the top 10-20 it could be different, even as top girls try to transfer into them for their 5th year. That said, look at the G8 tournament, it draws far more coaches than its competitors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this creates even more unnecessary uncertainty.

1. We don't know if the IWLCA will hold its annual meeting. Depending on the conditions, it might seem hypocritical to say that it is unsafe for HS player and their families to participate in an outdoor tournament in November, while encouraging 1000 college coaches (many of whom are older than me) to gather at an INDOOR facility. If IWLCA cancels their annual meeting, will coaches even travel to Florida?

2. The travel time from Wellington, FL to Naples, Fl is over 2 hours. A large part of the route is driving through the Everglades, so there is no midpoint area to stay. I would think the coaches would have to split up if they want to attend both. Last November, i spent over $1000 on lodging, airfare, and car rental. Given the cost and the current economic environment, I don't think you can assume they can afford to visit both locations Door_Open_And they decide to travel to FL. Which one do they choose if they can only pick one? LLL Florida with 20% of the 2022s playing? The top clubs are supposedly going to LLL, but not every club that gets invited is actually a top club. I'm also assuming that most clubs are also bringing their B or even C teams, too. Or Presidents Cup with 80% of the 2022s playing?

It was a lot simpler last year.

Coaches are going to be focused on the 2023s because there will be a glut of girls in college teams due to the extra year of eligibility. 2021s have it worst, they really got screwed if they’re not already committed or are elite!

Not sure about. The 2023s are just as affected by the extra year of eligibility as the 2022s. This year's college freshmen are capable of taking positions from the 2023s just as this year's college sophomores are capable of doing the same thing to the 2022s.

Not for Ivies. Girls won’t be taking 5th year. Either not allowed or too expensive.

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Different poster here and I feel that this is probably someone who dislikes the guy and wants the previous poster to go after him so you are putting the bait out there . They were horrendous coaches and terrible role models and too many examples to list but let’s just say it’s not the poster who has disrespected their wives and children .Its hilarious to see the guy now , used to be an arrogant little man and now walks around with his tail between his legs .Has mistreated kids from both his town and club teams for years , feel bad for his kids .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coaches recruit athletes with field IQ. There are not looking at what positions they are playing in HS/Club

Wrong , and yes that little [ChillLaxin] of a coach ( did not say man for a reason) has always been a weasel . Not sure who I feel worse for his wife , or him as they are both gross . His kids never had a chance to stand by their verbal commitment as they were taught from an early age that your word means nothing . He teamed up with a wife beater to become two of the worst roll models to have ever coached on LI and YJ should be embarrassed. Yes I realize this post is not nice but they earned it and I would have no problem telling them to their face . CR tolerated these two losers so her son could go to a district they did not live in and this lost would look the other way . The reason I point this out is so they don’t post any non sense back as they know the ugly truth .

So I sat back fully expecting one of the midgets trolls to come on here and defend him . What I now see is that this superintendent /daddy coach is such a hated and despised human that no one comes to his defense not even his comare . Him and his wife were terrible role models and YJ should be disgusted. Please say something back about KC so I can tell all the truth.

So easy to write these things on an anonymous forum, you are no better, put your name to the post. I’m sure you didn’t spend half the time he did trying to teach your daughter. I guarantee you’re one of those parents who do NOTHING then complain about the ones who do everything! You feel he was incompetent, then you should have stepped up, instead you go on an anonymous forum bashing him and his family. Good luck sir, to you and your pathetic life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Funny, a tough guy telling another tough guy to put his name on it, while not putting his name on it...round and round we go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Funny, a tough guy telling another tough guy to put his name on it, while not putting his name on it...round and round we go.

Ok Einstein, the donk who said I would say it to his face is who should sign his name! I never said I was calling him out. Glad you put your 2 cents in! Another lost!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Funny, a tough guy telling another tough guy to put his name on it, while not putting his name on it...round and round we go.

Ok Einstein, the donk who said I would say it to his face is who should sign his name! I never said I was calling him out. Glad you put your 2 cents in! Another lost!

Way to backpeddle scared guy...keep hiding

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Funny, a tough guy telling another tough guy to put his name on it, while not putting his name on it...round and round we go.

Ok Einstein, the donk who said I would say it to his face is who should sign his name! I never said I was calling him out. Glad you put your 2 cents in! Another lost!

Thanks for being the anonymous board police telling us all who should and should not post their name.You are either really ignorant or dislike KC as much as many on this board do as your replying in his defense just makes it worse. How do you know the poster did not tell him he is a lost to his face already , I know of a few who have done so over the years. The guy is a clown who used his position at work to gain favor with CR by doing illegal things. He used that leverage to move his kids and their friends to the top YJ teams having more deserving players move off the top team. Amazing that a school district will allow such a bad role model to be in his position .As far as the two midgets no one on this board could say anything that comes close to disrespecting their families more than they have already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Funny, a tough guy telling another tough guy to put his name on it, while not putting his name on it...round and round we go.

Ok Einstein, the donk who said I would say it to his face is who should sign his name! I never said I was calling him out. Glad you put your 2 cents in! Another lost!

Way to backpeddle scared guy...keep hiding

Too funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like sour grapes!! He treated my daughter extremely fair, if your daughter was good enough to play more, she would have. Absolutely no reason to disrespect his wife or daughters. Just shows how classless you are. Big tough guy on an anonymous post. Sign your name tough guy!

Funny, a tough guy telling another tough guy to put his name on it, while not putting his name on it...round and round we go.

Ok Einstein, the donk who said I would say it to his face is who should sign his name! I never said I was calling him out. Glad you put your 2 cents in! Another lost!

Way to backpeddle scared guy...keep hiding

Too funny

“Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:
Condemn not and ye shall not be condemned,
Forgive and he shall be forgiven.”

Luke 6:37-

“Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:
Condemn not and ye shall not be condemned,
Forgive and he shall be forgiven.”

Luke 6:37-

Too funny your using religion to try and judge ,condemn ,censure the poster. Sorry but KC was the worst sort of coach there is . Promote his kids and friends when they did not deserve it , do illegal favors to keep yourself in a position of power ,etc etc. The guy knew nothing about lax but has proven time and again he cannot be trusted to due the right thing even by those closest to him.

The girls taking the 5th year will be the ones that were already planning on being grad asst coaches as they get their degree. I'm sorry I have a problem with kids and parents that still wont grow up and will "hold back" yet again so their daughter can play a meaningless 5th year. Its lacrosse. Only us parents care. And it ends...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The girls taking the 5th year will be the ones that were already planning on being grad asst coaches as they get their degree. I'm sorry I have a problem with kids and parents that still wont grow up and will "hold back" yet again so their daughter can play a meaningless 5th year. Its lacrosse. Only us parents care. And it ends...

Whats the rush to end it? Your opinion is clueless as many are using the 5th year to help get them into programs they may not have otherwise , to further their education, and yes some just want to enjoy their last year of playing competitive sports. You clearly were never an athlete or you would not say meaningless.If a kid is in a rush to go get a job and get on with their life than good for them but seems to me in this economy getting a grad degree and making yourself more marketable is not a bad idea especially when its being paid for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The girls taking the 5th year will be the ones that were already planning on being grad asst coaches as they get their degree. I'm sorry I have a problem with kids and parents that still wont grow up and will "hold back" yet again so their daughter can play a meaningless 5th year. Its lacrosse. Only us parents care. And it ends...

I am not going to begin to say I know whats right or wrong and whether a 5th year of lax makes sense in the totality of circumstances but at this point in the athletes career I cant imagine its about the parents at all. These girls are 22-23 years old. The only thing I will add bc I am seeing it all over with friends kids (mine are younger so not experiencing it yet), is that summer internships are being cancelled (college and grad school), job offers being revoked or in limbo; companies don't even know if they will come back, etc . . so if an individual has an opportunity to "delay" or "hold back" and financially it makes sense for the then cei la vie. To me this is the same as the holdback argument which has now filtered down to the "boys 2027 grad forum." No one knows what is best for another nor does anyone know the totality of anyone's circumstance. And no I am not the parent of a holdback.

the crazies that have been yelling go to goal since their kid was 5, will be the same parents encouraging a 5th year of play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The girls taking the 5th year will be the ones that were already planning on being grad asst coaches as they get their degree. I'm sorry I have a problem with kids and parents that still wont grow up and will "hold back" yet again so their daughter can play a meaningless 5th year. Its lacrosse. Only us parents care. And it ends...

These are young adults making adult decisions. I am sure the parents have little say in "making" them play another year. Get your head out of your A$$.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the crazies that have been yelling go to goal since their kid was 5, will be the same parents encouraging a 5th year of play

And the ones not taking a 5th year have dads who just want their daughter out of the house because they have always been embarrassed by their daughter sitting on the sideline watching the returning 5th years put the ball in the back of the net .

You too are stunands

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You too are stunands

Two not too. The second was being sarcastic but you are obviously too (not two) dense to see that.

Yeah sarcastic, just like drinking bleach will cure the Chinese virus. Like I said , you two are stunands. Thanks for English lesson.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah sarcastic, just like drinking bleach will cure the Chinese virus. Like I said , you two are stunands. Thanks for English lesson.

The more you post the more obvious it is that you are mentally challenged. "Thanks for English lesson", I would venture a guess you watched way too much Sesame Street as a child or even possibly an adult " me want cookie ". Stop embarrassing yourself and go back to bashing young women who want to finish out their college careers on their own terms. You should approach one of the fathers of these young women and express your opinion to them face to face, we all know that would never happen.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...02-rglwmw5e5vaqponivxz5qv4eqi-story.html

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...02-rglwmw5e5vaqponivxz5qv4eqi-story.html

this should be sent to every 2022 boy and girl in the US

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...02-rglwmw5e5vaqponivxz5qv4eqi-story.html

very poor decision by the student. lesson for all

Blue Devils Lacrosse Club has been holding full team practices for the past week against state guidelines on town fields they have not rented. As long as teams continue to disobey state guidelines there will end up being no sports this coming fall. Youth and HS sports teams are not allowed to hold team practices otherwise there would have been a high school season.

Wait till the University of Chicago gets a load of D.O
His daughter could have went to a D1 school if he kept his mouth shut or didn’t badmouth her teammates trying to promote his little bundle of sunshine!! Fastest shot on Long Island! 😂😂😂
Best player on the team!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Still have the radar gun D.O? donk!!!

Good for them. More should hold practices to protest the draconian rules currently in place. Shame on us as citizens to be lead around like lemmings off a cliff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for them. More should hold practices to protest the draconian rules currently in place. Shame on us as citizens to be lead around like lemmings off a cliff

Clown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils Lacrosse Club has been holding full team practices for the past week against state guidelines on town fields they have not rented. As long as teams continue to disobey state guidelines there will end up being no sports this coming fall. Youth and HS sports teams are not allowed to hold team practices otherwise there would have been a high school season.

Parents are just as much to blame for driving their kids there. They'll be the same ones complaining when there is no season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait till the University of Chicago gets a load of D.O
His daughter could have went to a D1 school if he kept his mouth shut or didn’t badmouth her teammates trying to promote his little bundle of sunshine!! Fastest shot on Long Island! 😂😂😂
Best player on the team!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Still have the radar gun D.O? donk!!!

UChicago. One of the best schools in the country. Getting recruited to play there sounds like a success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils Lacrosse Club has been holding full team practices for the past week against state guidelines on town fields they have not rented. As long as teams continue to disobey state guidelines there will end up being no sports this coming fall. Youth and HS sports teams are not allowed to hold team practices otherwise there would have been a high school season.

Parents are just as much to blame for driving their kids there. They'll be the same ones complaining when there is no season.

I heard they had a combo lax practice/peaceful protest...they are good to go, no consequences there.

Where did you see a knock on the school????
I simply said if the Dad kept his mouth shut on the sidelines his daughter would have went D1 like he so badly wanted.

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for them. More should hold practices to protest the draconian rules currently in place. Shame on us as citizens to be lead around like lemmings off a cliff

Clown

When you can’t speak with intelligent ideas........ resort to name calling. Sorry snowflake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did you see a knock on the school????
I simply said if the Dad kept his mouth shut on the sidelines his daughter would have went D1 like he so badly wanted.

Chicago is one of the best schools in the country. Who cares about D1 lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils Lacrosse Club has been holding full team practices for the past week against state guidelines on town fields they have not rented. As long as teams continue to disobey state guidelines there will end up being no sports this coming fall. Youth and HS sports teams are not allowed to hold team practices otherwise there would have been a high school season.

Does anyone really care what Blue Devils does? JW

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils Lacrosse Club has been holding full team practices for the past week against state guidelines on town fields they have not rented. As long as teams continue to disobey state guidelines there will end up being no sports this coming fall. Youth and HS sports teams are not allowed to hold team practices otherwise there would have been a high school season.

Thanks Karen, duly noted....

G8 tournament..staying on the same dates, rescheduled or canceled?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

G8 tournament..staying on the same dates, rescheduled or canceled?

6.9.20 Update
Due to the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic and the US Lacrosse return to play guidelines, G8 2020 has been canceled. The decision was made with our goal of keeping our players and families safe and healthy during these unprecedented times. Thank you for your patience and support during these difficult times.
We know that we will be back and better than ever.
Save the date 2021:
G8: July 9,10,11, 2021

G8 cancelled
Lax for the Cure cancelled

They should move these tournaments outta Jersey and to Delaware!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

G8 cancelled
Lax for the Cure cancelled

They should move these tournaments outta Jersey and to Delaware!

Capital Cup just moved to Delaware in mid-August.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

G8 cancelled
Lax for the Cure cancelled

They should move these tournaments outta Jersey and to Delaware!

Capital Cup just moved to Delaware in mid-August.

Yes I saw that. Hopefully it was because of a scheduling conflict and not Md Covid rules. NY and NJ should have been looking for alternates a long time ago because they have been the most conservative.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils Lacrosse Club has been holding full team practices for the past week against state guidelines on town fields they have not rented. As long as teams continue to disobey state guidelines there will end up being no sports this coming fall. Youth and HS sports teams are not allowed to hold team practices otherwise there would have been a high school season.

Does anyone really care what Blue Devils does? JW

What the heck is Blue Devils Lacrosse Club and why should I care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

G8 cancelled
Lax for the Cure cancelled

They should move these tournaments outta Jersey and to Delaware!

Capital Cup just moved to Delaware in mid-August.

Yes I saw that. Hopefully it was because of a scheduling conflict and not Md Covid rules. NY and NJ should have been looking for alternates a long time ago because they have been the most conservative.

MD expected to open up youth sports shortly. Governor said after school ends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

G8 cancelled
Lax for the Cure cancelled

They should move these tournaments outta Jersey and to Delaware!

Capital Cup just moved to Delaware in mid-August.

As a non-IWLCA linked tournament. When college coaches still may not have their travel supported due to COVID. When college kids will be arriving on campuses to start their fall season. etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Does anyone have any irk or insight into the Nike120? Is it a money grab or for real?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

If he was not following guidelines provide proof and report to section 11 and the school supt. Coming on this board and accusing is a weak gesture by yourself who appears to be like many other lame people who would rather make an accusation and then run away.

The Nike120 is the same format as UA150

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nike120 is the same format as UA150

i think there will be a lot more talent at the 120. especially this year when film will be needed more than ever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

If he was not following guidelines provide proof and report to section 11 and the school supt. Coming on this board and accusing is a weak gesture by yourself who appears to be like many other lame people who would rather make an accusation and then run away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

If he was not following guidelines provide proof and report to section 11 and the school supt. Coming on this board and accusing is a weak gesture by yourself who appears to be like many other lame people who would rather make an accusation and then run away.

Different poster here, Sinai girls HS team has been together practicing. OP is correct

How can you make that comment when you don’t know who will be playing at either event? They both make the same claim that it’s the top 150 girls or the top 120 girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nike120 is the same format as UA150

i think there will be a lot more talent at the 120. especially this year when film will be needed more than ever.

There wasn't much reason to go the either anymore. Why anyone would pay for it this year is beyond me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nike120 is the same format as UA150

i think there will be a lot more talent at the 120. especially this year when film will be needed more than ever.

There wasn't much reason to go the either anymore. Why anyone would pay for it this year is beyond me.

a lot of the 22's need the film to send to coaches since there will not be any coaches at any tournaments until the fall..maybem

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

If he was not following guidelines provide proof and report to section 11 and the school supt. Coming on this board and accusing is a weak gesture by yourself who appears to be like many other lame people who would rather make an accusation and then run away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

If he was not following guidelines provide proof and report to section 11 and the school supt. Coming on this board and accusing is a weak gesture by yourself who appears to be like many other lame people who would rather make an accusation and then run away.

Different poster here, Sinai girls HS team has been together practicing. OP is correct

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

If he was not following guidelines provide proof and report to section 11 and the school supt. Coming on this board and accusing is a weak gesture by yourself who appears to be like many other lame people who would rather make an accusation and then run away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai girls has been holding complete team practices for weeks!!!

The HS team? Don’t believe you, that would be the end of the program as you know it.

Absolutely 100% the high school team!! That’s not hearsay or rumor! Bert tried to get his YJ team together also with a parent running things but too many eyes on that situation and CR squashed it.

There is no way, he would be fired instantly. Guy is over the top with the lacrosse practice, but not dense enough to do that.

If he was not following guidelines provide proof and report to section 11 and the school supt. Coming on this board and accusing is a weak gesture by yourself who appears to be like many other lame people who would rather make an accusation and then run away.

Different poster here, Sinai girls HS team has been together practicing. OP is correct

Daughter is friends with a bunch of MtSinai girls and they have been practicing. Coach is considered untouchable over there. Nobody about to rat him out in that district for fear of being benched or outcast, which would happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nike120 is the same format as UA150

i think there will be a lot more talent at the 120. especially this year when film will be needed more than ever.

There wasn't much reason to go the either anymore. Why anyone would pay for it this year is beyond me.

a lot of the 22's need the film to send to coaches since there will not be any coaches at any tournaments until the fall..maybem

That's a lot of money for some film of random kids playing. Better off filming actual club games. The last 2 years Nike 120 and UA 150 have struggled to fill the rosters. They just don't make sense anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nike120 is the same format as UA150

i think there will be a lot more talent at the 120. especially this year when film will be needed more than ever.

There wasn't much reason to go the either anymore. Why anyone would pay for it this year is beyond me.

a lot of the 22's need the film to send to coaches since there will not be any coaches at any tournaments until the fall..maybem

That's a lot of money for some film of random kids playing. Better off filming actual club games. The last 2 years Nike 120 and UA 150 have struggled to fill the rosters. They just don't make sense anymore.

in a normal year that is true, but this is anything but a normal year.

They can’t be struggling to fill rosters when there are girls waitlisted (past & present) & don’t make it on a roster.

Unless you're a parent from Mt. Sinai, why does anyone care what the girls are doing? Is it because you genuinely are concerned for their well being? Or is it sour grapes that your daughter isn't practicing? Why would anyone call Section 11 on the coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unless you're a parent from Mt. Sinai, why does anyone care what the girls are doing? Is it because you genuinely are concerned for their well being? Or is it sour grapes that your daughter isn't practicing? Why would anyone call Section 11 on the coach?

Exactly. Not from MS but wouldnt be worried about what they were doing, when, or how. MYOB. Sounds like these folks are just jealous that their coaches aren't holding a practice. LI-CDC-lax edition smdh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nike120 is the same format as UA150

i think there will be a lot more talent at the 120. especially this year when film will be needed more than ever.

There wasn't much reason to go the either anymore. Why anyone would pay for it this year is beyond me.

a lot of the 22's need the film to send to coaches since there will not be any coaches at any tournaments until the fall..maybem

That's a lot of money for some film of random kids playing. Better off filming actual club games. The last 2 years Nike 120 and UA 150 have struggled to fill the rosters. They just don't make sense anymore.

in a normal year that is true, but this is anything but a normal year.

UA 150 doesn't have the draw as NIKE 120 but if your kid was selected to go I would do either at this point especially if you are a 22... Nothing is happening this summer as far as tournaments

Regular Under Armour is scheduled for August 6-9. That will be the most important event of the summer. The others are a waste of time and money unless you're hoping to play lower level D1 or D2. LI tryout dates will be announced next week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regular Under Armour is scheduled for August 6-9. That will be the most important event of the summer. The others are a waste of time and money unless you're hoping to play lower level D1 or D2. LI tryout dates will be announced next week

Do you really think the Under Armour tournament will happen this year with States all under different guidelines and so many Region tryout dates still TBD? My daughter participated last year and it was a terrific tournament but don’t see how they can manage it this year with so many different guidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regular Under Armour is scheduled for August 6-9. That will be the most important event of the summer. The others are a waste of time and money unless you're hoping to play lower level D1 or D2. LI tryout dates will be announced next week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regular Under Armour is scheduled for August 6-9. That will be the most important event of the summer. The others are a waste of time and money unless you're hoping to play lower level D1 or D2. LI tryout dates will be announced next week

100% most important event every summer and even more important than most years with the lack of tourneys.
Last year the command tryout had about 150 field players and 10 goalies. The numbers should be even bigger this year. Got to help your chances if you play for the blue and yellow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regular Under Armour is scheduled for August 6-9. That will be the most important event of the summer. The others are a waste of time and money unless you're hoping to play lower level D1 or D2. LI tryout dates will be announced next week

Do you really think the Under Armour tournament will happen this year with States all under different guidelines and so many Region tryout dates still TBD? My daughter participated last year and it was a terrific tournament but don’t see how they can manage it this year with so many different guidelines.

I think it’s going to happen unless there is a drastic increase in COVID cases. NY has it the worst so maybe they will do a virtual tryout? Most regions have already announced tryout dates. Strange that the didn’t announce the rosters for the senior game yet?? We’ll see

Do you really think the Under Armour tournament will happen this year with States all under different guidelines and so many Region tryout dates still TBD? My daughter participated last year and it was a terrific tournament but don’t see how they can manage it this year with so many different guidelines.
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I think it’s going to happen unless there is a drastic increase in COVID cases. NY has it the worst so maybe they will do a virtual tryout? Most regions have already announced tryout dates. Strange that the didn’t announce the rosters for the senior game yet?? We’ll see
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Only a few regions actually really matter...

do you have a link for the Nike120?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

do you have a link for the Nike120?

Just google it
It falls on one of the UA days.
It’s invitational

Originally Posted by Anonymous

do you have a link for the Nike120?

http://elite120.com/

August 5 & 6...Wednesday and Thursday

The little secret clubs are keeping from you is that there will be no coaches at any of these tournaments. The recruiting dead period as been extended until July 31 by the NCAA which does not allow a college coach to watch/evaluate a player in person. Then there is a quiet period from 8/6-8/12 which coaches still can not watch/evaluate a player in person. Then there is another dead period from 8/13-8/31. The only days coaches are able to be at a tournament are 8/1-8/5 this season. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The little secret clubs are keeping from you is that there will be no coaches at any of these tournaments. The recruiting dead period as been extended until July 31 by the NCAA which does not allow a college coach to watch/evaluate a player in person. Then there is a quiet period from 8/6-8/12 which coaches still can not watch/evaluate a player in person. Then there is another dead period from 8/13-8/31. The only days coaches are able to be at a tournament are 8/1-8/5 this season. Good luck!

everyone already knows this

Why are any high school teams practicing? HS teams won't play until next spring. Club teams I can understand trying to practice, because they might play this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The little secret clubs are keeping from you is that there will be no coaches at any of these tournaments. The recruiting dead period as been extended until July 31 by the NCAA which does not allow a college coach to watch/evaluate a player in person. Then there is a quiet period from 8/6-8/12 which coaches still can not watch/evaluate a player in person. Then there is another dead period from 8/13-8/31. The only days coaches are able to be at a tournament are 8/1-8/5 this season. Good luck!

She was invited, the cost of the event is $51.. for the Parisi school testing and 3 refereed games.. I'll try to split the cost of the game film with a few other of her teammates and maybe get a few highlights to add to the reel.. Its far from an arm & leg.

G8 is back on! Disappointing to see that film is not included for athletes since coaches cannot be there. Sure the coaches can get it, but kids need highlight video right now. Always about the money!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

G8 is back on! Disappointing to see that film is not included for athletes since coaches cannot be there. Sure the coaches can get it, but kids need highlight video right now. Always about the money!

Highlight video is great as an introduction and getting on a program's radar, but a coach seriously recruiting a player will want to see full game film. Bring a camera and film your own, use team high school film for a highlight video, or purchase the game film package if your kid played well.

This kid will be a force.. Will be exciting to watch!
https://www.si.com/faces-in-the-cro...op-lacrosse-recruABEuBuit-north-carolina

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This kid will be a force.. Will be exciting to watch!
https://www.si.com/faces-in-the-cro...op-lacrosse-recruABEuBuit-north-carolina

she better be with all the hype she gets from US Lacrosse and Inside Lacrosse. She better break every UNC record and win 4 straight national championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This kid will be a force.. Will be exciting to watch!
https://www.si.com/faces-in-the-cro...op-lacrosse-recruABEuBuit-north-carolina

She played lacrosse at Florida HS. The talented LI/MD girls would have similar or better stats. Not saying she not a good player but really not any better than any of the other top girls. I've seen her play, and it really was nothing special. Not sure why she's being put on a pedestal??

??? Best 2020 by far. Not even a discussion. So what if she played in Florida. From what i've heard played every top ranked team in the country in HS and club and she has dominated at every level including as a high school kid on the U19 team. I'm from Long Island and don't know the kid, but have seen her play there isn't even a close second in the 2020 class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

??? Best 2020 by far. Not even a discussion. So what if she played in Florida. From what i've heard played every top ranked team in the country in HS and club and she has dominated at every level including as a high school kid on the U19 team. I'm from Long Island and don't know the kid, but have seen her play there isn't even a close second in the 2020 class.

Lol!! That’s a joke right? And did you actually bring up the U19 team??? They actually play nobody. She gets press because her family is connected and she is not from a traditional hotbed. Everyone knows it! Seems like a sweet kid, but please stop with crowning her the greatest, lots of players just like her! My 8th grade daughter would score 100 pts playing at a Florida HS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

??? Best 2020 by far. Not even a discussion. So what if she played in Florida. From what i've heard played every top ranked team in the country in HS and club and she has dominated at every level including as a high school kid on the U19 team. I'm from Long Island and don't know the kid, but have seen her play there isn't even a close second in the 2020 class.

They got smoked by McDonogh last year. Just saying

I wish her well at Carolina. She looks like a sweet kid - big smile.

What are the dates for UA this year?

Neverary 1st

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are the dates for UA this year?

August 6-9. Hotel Booked!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Neverary 1st

There is a tournament happening in Maryland in 3 weeks. So no reason to think UA won't happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Neverary 1st

There is a tournament happening in Maryland in 3 weeks. So no reason to think UA won't happen

The issue for US is not having the tournament in Maryland it will be scheduling the "tryouts" across the country. Upstate NY has been changed 3x so far and is currently listed as TBD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Neverary 1st

There is a tournament happening in Maryland in 3 weeks. So no reason to think UA won't happen

The issue for US is not having the tournament in Maryland it will be scheduling the "tryouts" across the country. Upstate NY has been changed 3x so far and is currently listed as TBD

No way a publicly traded company puts there name on a tournament with what's going on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

??? Best 2020 by far. Not even a discussion. So what if she played in Florida. From what i've heard played every top ranked team in the country in HS and club and she has dominated at every level including as a high school kid on the U19 team. I'm from Long Island and don't know the kid, but have seen her play there isn't even a close second in the 2020 class.

You obviously are no friend of this kid. To her credit, she seems to be an extremely hard worker and has improved dramatically from when she was a YJ. That said will be interesting to watch her play in college. She will be coming onto a very stacked attack where just about any other attack player would be concerned about playing time let alone being the star. Other than Florida high school lacrosse she has essentially been the oldest player on the field which will not be the case again for some time. She is very well trained with a lot of stick skills but not sure with her average speed and lack of size how that will translate to college. To her benefit, she will not be the top priority of any defense and most likely will not even be in the top 5 for teams game planning against this UNC offense which will arguably be one of the best the NCAA has ever seen, at least on paper. UNC has 3 attack players who should never leave the field in any meaningful game so she will be fighting for playing time against some other talented freshman and several upperclassmen who at times have been essential pieces of the offense.

Any updates/insight on UA regional tryouts? LI and update NY still haven't been scheduled. The West tryout is going to be in Mesquite, Nevada in the middle of July. Current temps there are 105+ degrees with threat of wildfires/hazardous smoke in the area. I know the West isn't a major player in the UA tourney (understatement) but I am concerned (shocked?) that UA is going to hold tryouts in 100+ degree temps. Also, as coronavirus numbers continue to spike in CA, TX, FL, AZ, etc I just don't see how bringing all these folks from around the country to MD in early August is such a great idea. Can't they hold off and have the tryouts/tourney later?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any updates/insight on UA regional tryouts? LI and update NY still haven't been scheduled. The West tryout is going to be in Mesquite, Nevada in the middle of July. Current temps there are 105+ degrees with threat of wildfires/hazardous smoke in the area. I know the West isn't a major player in the UA tourney (understatement) but I am concerned (shocked?) that UA is going to hold tryouts in 100+ degree temps. Also, as coronavirus numbers continue to spike in CA, TX, FL, AZ, etc I just don't see how bringing all these folks from around the country to MD in early August is such a great idea. Can't they hold off and have the tryouts/tourney later?

Sounds like a major liability for a large corporation to run the risk on. If the event traces Covid back to itself, a large corporation like Under Armour is a major target for lawsuits, class action suits, etc.... The event itself is peanuts to the corporation, but the liability is massive. Just can’t see it running. The only reason it has any legs is Corrigan sports going after the money. If it does run, you may see the UA sponsor name drop from it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any updates/insight on UA regional tryouts? LI and update NY still haven't been scheduled. The West tryout is going to be in Mesquite, Nevada in the middle of July. Current temps there are 105+ degrees with threat of wildfires/hazardous smoke in the area. I know the West isn't a major player in the UA tourney (understatement) but I am concerned (shocked?) that UA is going to hold tryouts in 100+ degree temps. Also, as coronavirus numbers continue to spike in CA, TX, FL, AZ, etc I just don't see how bringing all these folks from around the country to MD in early August is such a great idea. Can't they hold off and have the tryouts/tourney later?

Who are you concerned for? Some anonymous girls?

Concerned for all the girls

Does anyone know if there will be a HS summer league like there has in the past? I believe it was ran by CR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know if there will be a HS summer league like there has in the past? I believe it was ran by CR

whho knows ...as of now schools aren't allowing the use of their fields

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Yea and..... if your daughter is of age to tryout then decide for yourself to have her tryout or not. If you don’t have a daughter of age to tryout why do you care. As Americans we have the freedom to decide for ourselves and not be bullied by those who want to think for us.

Under Armour tryouts on for LI. July 30

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Yea and..... if your daughter is of age to tryout then decide for yourself to have her tryout or not. If you don’t have a daughter of age to tryout why do you care. As Americans we have the freedom to decide for ourselves and not be bullied by those who want to think for us.

Your response is idiotic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Then don't send your daughter. There is also a tournament in Maryland next week with teams from MD, PA, MA, and VA. Go ahead and stay locked in your house until a vaccine is available. All the reporting of the increase in cases is leaving out the continuing decrease in mortality rate and deaths. Not to mention teenagers have been shown to not be at risk to complications from the virus. People are entitled to make their own decision based on guidance from their state and local government.

Funny, I would love to hear the tune you sing after your kid attends one of these tournaments and she passes it to a innocent loved one with complications. This goes to show you how self absorbed, self centered lax parents are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Then don't send your daughter. There is also a tournament in Maryland next week with teams from MD, PA, MA, and VA. Go ahead and stay locked in your house until a vaccine is available. All the reporting of the increase in cases is leaving out the continuing decrease in mortality rate and deaths. Not to mention teenagers have been shown to not be at risk to complications from the virus. People are entitled to make their own decision based on guidance from their state and local government.

Stay locked in my house? Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing and completely where I was going with my post above. Eye roll. I sincerely hope that none of these players who "have been shown not to be at risk to complications from the virus" bring it home to a loved one. Complete cluster Door_Open_And in the making.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Yea and..... if your daughter is of age to tryout then decide for yourself to have her tryout or not. If you don’t have a daughter of age to tryout why do you care. As Americans we have the freedom to decide for ourselves and not be bullied by those who want to think for us.

Your response is idiotic

And there you have it. When you don’t have an intelligent response you default to the old “your an stunad”. Hey... enjoy being a lemming as you follow the others unable to read and think on your own

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Then don't send your daughter. There is also a tournament in Maryland next week with teams from MD, PA, MA, and VA. Go ahead and stay locked in your house until a vaccine is available. All the reporting of the increase in cases is leaving out the continuing decrease in mortality rate and deaths. Not to mention teenagers have been shown to not be at risk to complications from the virus. People are entitled to make their own decision based on guidance from their state and local government.

Funny, I would love to hear the tune you sing after your kid attends one of these tournaments and she passes it to a innocent loved one with complications. This goes to show you how self absorbed, self centered lax parents are.

Soooo... the 99% survival rate virus should keep everyone from enjoying life, sports, restaurants. Since facts matter. Deaths per year....Heart disease kills 650k, cancer 600k, accidents 170k, respiratory disease 160k. Oh yea.. that’s every year. If you decide to not participate that’s your decision. I want to have MY decision just as you have yours.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Yea and..... if your daughter is of age to tryout then decide for yourself to have her tryout or not. If you don’t have a daughter of age to tryout why do you care. As Americans we have the freedom to decide for ourselves and not be bullied by those who want to think for us.

Your response is idiotic

And there you have it. When you don’t have an intelligent response you default to the old “your an stunad”. Hey... enjoy being a lemming as you follow the others unable to read and think on your own

I was simply stating the obvious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Then don't send your daughter. There is also a tournament in Maryland next week with teams from MD, PA, MA, and VA. Go ahead and stay locked in your house until a vaccine is available. All the reporting of the increase in cases is leaving out the continuing decrease in mortality rate and deaths. Not to mention teenagers have been shown to not be at risk to complications from the virus. People are entitled to make their own decision based on guidance from their state and local government.

Funny, I would love to hear the tune you sing after your kid attends one of these tournaments and she passes it to a innocent loved one with complications. This goes to show you how self absorbed, self centered lax parents are.

The passing on to a loved one . . . exactly or just to anyone for that matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Yea and..... if your daughter is of age to tryout then decide for yourself to have her tryout or not. If you don’t have a daughter of age to tryout why do you care. As Americans we have the freedom to decide for ourselves and not be bullied by those who want to think for us.

Your response is idiotic

And there you have it. When you don’t have an intelligent response you default to the old “your an stunad”. Hey... enjoy being a lemming as you follow the others unable to read and think on your own

I was simply stating the obvious

And you have shown you are a simpleton.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Yea and..... if your daughter is of age to tryout then decide for yourself to have her tryout or not. If you don’t have a daughter of age to tryout why do you care. As Americans we have the freedom to decide for ourselves and not be bullied by those who want to think for us.

Your response is idiotic

And there you have it. When you don’t have an intelligent response you default to the old “your an stunad”. Hey... enjoy being a lemming as you follow the others unable to read and think on your own

I was simply stating the obvious

And you have shown you are a simpleton.

Wow. You really got me there. I'll be thinking of that one for days.

UA organizers just want your try out money since they are losing so much other money this summer. There is no way teams from across the country are coming to MD to play this tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Then don't send your daughter. There is also a tournament in Maryland next week with teams from MD, PA, MA, and VA. Go ahead and stay locked in your house until a vaccine is available. All the reporting of the increase in cases is leaving out the continuing decrease in mortality rate and deaths. Not to mention teenagers have been shown to not be at risk to complications from the virus. People are entitled to make their own decision based on guidance from their state and local government.

Funny, I would love to hear the tune you sing after your kid attends one of these tournaments and she passes it to a innocent loved one with complications. This goes to show you how self absorbed, self centered lax parents are.

Soooo... the 99% survival rate virus should keep everyone from enjoying life, sports, restaurants. Since facts matter. Deaths per year....Heart disease kills 650k, cancer 600k, accidents 170k, respiratory disease 160k. Oh yea.. that’s every year. If you decide to not participate that’s your decision. I want to have MY decision just as you have yours.

Yes, you're right. But what is the one thing that these don't have in common with covid?? Oh yeah, they're not easily transmitted person to person. Just remember, your decision will impact others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems Under Armour tryouts begin today in Florida at a school that lists Under Armour and Gatorade as sponsors. ??? Many of the states represented at this tryout are "hotspots" for COVID-19. I'm not even sure what to say about this and am baffled by Corrigan Sports response to all of this.

Then don't send your daughter. There is also a tournament in Maryland next week with teams from MD, PA, MA, and VA. Go ahead and stay locked in your house until a vaccine is available. All the reporting of the increase in cases is leaving out the continuing decrease in mortality rate and deaths. Not to mention teenagers have been shown to not be at risk to complications from the virus. People are entitled to make their own decision based on guidance from their state and local government.

Funny, I would love to hear the tune you sing after your kid attends one of these tournaments and she passes it to a innocent loved one with complications. This goes to show you how self absorbed, self centered lax parents are.

Soooo... the 99% survival rate virus should keep everyone from enjoying life, sports, restaurants. Since facts matter. Deaths per year....Heart disease kills 650k, cancer 600k, accidents 170k, respiratory disease 160k. Oh yea.. that’s every year. If you decide to not participate that’s your decision. I want to have MY decision just as you have yours.

Yes, you're right. But what is the one thing that these don't have in common with covid?? Oh yeah, they're not easily transmitted person to person. Just remember, your decision will impact others.

Infections in children are mild

For clarity on what these findings might mean for kids and their parents, we turned to Kristin Moffitt, assistant professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School and associate physician in pediatrics in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Boston Children’s.

“What seems to be consistent so far, in multiple settings in multiple countries, including the U.S., is that the majority of COVID-19 infections in individuals under the age of 19 tend to be mild,” she explained. “Infection in pediatric patients of all ages tends to be associated with significantly lower rates of hospitalization and significantly lower rates of critical and severe illness.”

Yet, ages 16-45 are becoming the #1 spreaders of the disease. Just because they don’t die does not mean they are not killing people in the process. We have become selfish. The EU, with multiple countries, traditions and ethnic groups, were able to do it but we can’t. The number differential is staggering and we have had 4 months to figure this thing out.

Covid is a respiratory and blood disease. Who is to say the younger age groups won’t start developing blood clots 2-3 years down the line. No one knows the implications yet of all these infections.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yet, ages 16-45 are becoming the #1 spreaders of the disease. Just because they don’t die does not mean they are not killing people in the process. We have become selfish. The EU, with multiple countries, traditions and ethnic groups, were able to do it but we can’t. The number differential is staggering and we have had 4 months to figure this thing out.

Fake news. Show us your source

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Covid is a respiratory and blood disease. Who is to say the younger age groups won’t start developing blood clots 2-3 years down the line. No one knows the implications yet of all these infections.

Fake news. I get to decide not some out of touch gov cuomo. He allowed protestors and looters yet banned church goers and school graduation. Wake up.

LET THE KIDS PLAY started this petition to Governor Andrew Cuomo and 1 other
On June 26th, the governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, suddenly and without justification decided to prohibit high school football from beginning until further notice. The teams were to begin on campus activities with the commencement of New York’s Phase 4 reopening plan. Governor Cuomo has unilaterally revoked his initial resolution which safely allowed

Anyone who starts with fake news loses all creditability . Read and get out the faux news dungeon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone who starts with fake news loses all creditability . Read and get out the faux news dungeon.

And there you have it. Try to attack when you have no factual argument. Please try and have a factual discussion. I can respect those who decide to not have their kids play. You should respect my decision to allow my kids to play. Do not impose your opinions on me.

Let it go... you can't argue with notIntelligent. You obviously watch only opinion shows. Ie the real fake news. Record breaking numbers daily and the VP is on the road saying all is good. Dandy Don just passed 20,000 lies and mistruths. Talk about lemmings. Ugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let it go... you can't argue with notIntelligent. You obviously watch only opinion shows. Ie the real fake news. Record breaking numbers daily and the VP is on the road saying all is good. Dandy Don just passed 20,000 lies and mistruths. Talk about lemmings. Ugh.

Have a great 4th of July although for a lefty like yourself you will find something to whine about.

With Delaware just added to the list of states with a quarantine travel advisory for NY/NJ/CT, is anyone still planning on doing the committed academy July 20th? No updates from Inside Lacrosse in a couple of weeks.

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

Sent an email. No reply.

I guess that’s the sell now...film that college coaches have no interest in viewing. Coaches are sent film everyday. They only watch film of kids they are actively recruiting.

If you don't want to participate in lacrosse because of Covid you don't have to. I'm not sure why you think you should be able to tell other people what to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't want to participate in lacrosse because of Covid you don't have to. I'm not sure why you think you should be able to tell other people what to do.

I am sure many will disagree but for me the above is not is not the issue. If you want to play - play. If we are in phase 3 or 4 and the boys and girls can play, again then play. I would only ask that one respects the rules that are in place. I know for a fact that certain local (tri-state) boys who were in Tennessee for the Juniors Open have not quarantined since they have been back. Again, if they went and stayed in a hotel and played and had fun with their parents, then good for them. But there are precautions in place and they were supposed to quarantine for 2 weeks upon return. I cannot speak for all boys but I know 2 boys on 2 separate teams have not and in fact were practicing yesterday and today. This means that the actions by these boys are potentially hurting others - more importantly its the selfishness of their parents. Once again, I am not saying don't play nor practice or even anything close to that but please have the respect and courtesy for your fellow human to do as is asked and quarantine for the 2 weeks upon return from Tenn. If they returned on July 2, then stay homebound until July 16 and then after that - run, jump, and do what ever you want.

Many feel a sense of entitlement, they do what they want, get what they want and step on anyone in the process. Typical lax parents.

Who has current film though? The boys event in TN and the ongoing event in Baltimore are the only recent team events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't want to participate in lacrosse because of Covid you don't have to. I'm not sure why you think you should be able to tell other people what to do.

I am sure many will disagree but for me the above is not is not the issue. If you want to play - play. If we are in phase 3 or 4 and the boys and girls can play, again then play. I would only ask that one respects the rules that are in place. I know for a fact that certain local (tri-state) boys who were in Tennessee for the Juniors Open have not quarantined since they have been back. Again, if they went and stayed in a hotel and played and had fun with their parents, then good for them. But there are precautions in place and they were supposed to quarantine for 2 weeks upon return. I cannot speak for all boys but I know 2 boys on 2 separate teams have not and in fact were practicing yesterday and today. This means that the actions by these boys are potentially hurting others - more importantly its the selfishness of their parents. Once again, I am not saying don't play nor practice or even anything close to that but please have the respect and courtesy for your fellow human to do as is asked and quarantine for the 2 weeks upon return from Tenn. If they returned on July 2, then stay homebound until July 16 and then after that - run, jump, and do what ever you want.

Many feel a sense of entitlement, they do what they want, get what they want and step on anyone in the process. Typical lax parents.

Please site the reference material you have studied regarding the usefulness of 14 day quarantine for children and teens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

No masks required *when social distancing can be maintained. If everyone was spaced out at your games great! For what I saw on the livestream, during halftime of the final, spectators "spread out" wasn't that obvious. Roll the tape, and you'll see what I saw.

Probably not worth it, but for future events, it's not "no masks required". It's no masks IF you keep your distance from others, including the friends, other parents, other kids who aren't yours. etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

No masks required *when social distancing can be maintained. If everyone was spaced out at your games great! For what I saw on the livestream, during halftime of the final, spectators "spread out" wasn't that obvious. Roll the tape, and you'll see what I saw.

Probably not worth it, but for future events, it's not "no masks required". It's no masks IF you keep your distance from others, including the friends, other parents, other kids who aren't yours. etc.

Geez. Enough with the mask nonsense. What are you the mask police. You mom should have taught you to mind your own business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

No masks required *when social distancing can be maintained. If everyone was spaced out at your games great! For what I saw on the livestream, during halftime of the final, spectators "spread out" wasn't that obvious. Roll the tape, and you'll see what I saw.

Probably not worth it, but for future events, it's not "no masks required". It's no masks IF you keep your distance from others, including the friends, other parents, other kids who aren't yours. etc.

Geez. Enough with the mask nonsense. What are you the mask police. You mom should have taught you to mind your own business.

i do not have to roll the tape...I WAS THERE! go back to hiding under your bed until there is a vaccine and let the rest of us live our lives.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

No masks required *when social distancing can be maintained. If everyone was spaced out at your games great! For what I saw on the livestream, during halftime of the final, spectators "spread out" wasn't that obvious. Roll the tape, and you'll see what I saw.

Probably not worth it, but for future events, it's not "no masks required". It's no masks IF you keep your distance from others, including the friends, other parents, other kids who aren't yours. etc.

Geez. Enough with the mask nonsense. What are you the mask police. You mom should have taught you to mind your own business.

i do not have to roll the tape...I WAS THERE! go back to hiding under your bed until there is a vaccine and let the rest of us live our lives.

So jealous, my daughters club canceled the season. Wish I was there watching my daughter play. I’m sure masks won’t be necessary anymore come late November after the elections. Good luck to all the girls playing. And those who are afraid, stay inside and shelter and leave everyone else alone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

No masks required *when social distancing can be maintained. If everyone was spaced out at your games great! For what I saw on the livestream, during halftime of the final, spectators "spread out" wasn't that obvious. Roll the tape, and you'll see what I saw.

Probably not worth it, but for future events, it's not "no masks required". It's no masks IF you keep your distance from others, including the friends, other parents, other kids who aren't yours. etc.

Geez. Enough with the mask nonsense. What are you the mask police. You mom should have taught you to mind your own business.

i do not have to roll the tape...I WAS THERE! go back to hiding under your bed until there is a vaccine and let the rest of us live our lives.

I'm not hiding under a bed. I'm a physician who works in a hospital every day. You CAN live your life. Low risk scenarios like watching sports outside are exactly that: LOW risk. That doesn't mean NO risk. COVID 19 ain't over yet. Be careful out there!

Ask Florida, Texas, California, South Carolina, Georgia and Arizona if Covid is a hoax. Funny how they are all now requiring masks. Over 80% of their hospital beds are filled. Some states are at max occupancy. But it’s the flu. Don’t remember the flu packing out hospitals since 1918. Keep following your Orange Messiah off a cliff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ask Florida, Texas, California, South Carolina, Georgia and Arizona if Covid is a hoax. Funny how they are all now requiring masks. Over 80% of their hospital beds are filled. Some states are at max occupancy. But it’s the flu. Don’t remember the flu packing out hospitals since 1918. Keep following your Orange Messiah off a cliff.

Stop watching CNN and MSNBC and go out side in the sunshine and fresh air.

Typical response, the facts won’t disappear because you hide your head in a pillow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

No masks required *when social distancing can be maintained. If everyone was spaced out at your games great! For what I saw on the livestream, during halftime of the final, spectators "spread out" wasn't that obvious. Roll the tape, and you'll see what I saw.

Probably not worth it, but for future events, it's not "no masks required". It's no masks IF you keep your distance from others, including the friends, other parents, other kids who aren't yours. etc.

Geez. Enough with the mask nonsense. What are you the mask police. You mom should have taught you to mind your own business.

i do not have to roll the tape...I WAS THERE! go back to hiding under your bed until there is a vaccine and let the rest of us live our lives.

I'm not hiding under a bed. I'm a physician who works in a hospital every day. You CAN live your life. Low risk scenarios like watching sports outside are exactly that: LOW risk. That doesn't mean NO risk. COVID 19 ain't over yet. Be careful out there![/quote
covid 19 was over hyped and over done...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

Who won the girls public and private divisions? What non-MD schools went?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

Who won the girls public and private divisions? What non-MD schools went?[/quote

there was only a girls private school division. McD won it 5-4 over SPSG

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

Who won the girls public and private divisions? What non-MD schools went?[/quote

there was only a girls private school division. McD won it 5-4 over SPSG

I know we're being all inclusive these days but it's still OK to detest McDonogh, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ask Florida, Texas, California, South Carolina, Georgia and Arizona if Covid is a hoax. Funny how they are all now requiring masks. Over 80% of their hospital beds are filled. Some states are at max occupancy. But it’s the flu. Don’t remember the flu packing out hospitals since 1918. Keep following your Orange Messiah off a cliff.

80% of the beds are filled but only 25-30% are filled with Covid patients. Funny that's not reported. Stop with elective surgeries again if it's becoming an issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some great HS girl's games being played in Baltimore today. Nice to see the girls playing and the younger girls getting the chance to get some current film to send coaches.

It was nice to see.

I was a little disappointed to see, at least what the live stream showed of the spectators during halftime of the final, no masks in the crowd. Small crowd, but definitely not keeping their distance from friends and parents they haven't seen in a while.

i was there and people were very spaced out. Also it was in the 90's and very humid which makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable.....PLUS IT WAS OUTSIDE AND MASKS ARE NOT REQUIRED!

Who won the girls public and private divisions? What non-MD schools went?[/quote

there was only a girls private school division. McD won it 5-4 over SPSG

I know we're being all inclusive these days but it's still OK to detest McDonogh, right?

Games we’re crappy. Was not reflective of how the IAAM season would of played out . Good for the girls to get out and play but in the end was some BS money grab for Corrigan to pay his mortgage for the month.

What tourney was this in MD where these teams played?

I am wondering about WPLL summit virtual tryouts. Did anyone pay for the virtual tryout? Seems they took money for a virtual tryout, then claimed you didn't make the team, but then didn't actually make a team in the age group (2021)!!! It seems that they didn't have enough girls for every age group and rather than return the money, they told people they didn't make it. Talk about a MONEY GRAB!! So glad I didn't buy in!!! I have heard this from two people. Any one else?

WPLL is posting the teams on Instagram in the coming days so you will see there if age group had a team.

Despite all the happy talk by the organizers...the "WPLL Futures" has been revealed to be just another way to make some $s. I dont mind "money grabs" - this entire club experience is about $/college and i'm happy to sign up for it given the upside.
But seeing USL/WPLL lean-in to it is something else...

It’s a pretty sad list from our region. Not at all competitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a pretty sad list from our region. Not at all competitive.

It was just an online "application"

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a pretty sad list from our region. Not at all competitive.

It was just an online "application"

Is there a a class for each grade? If not they should refund.

Yeah doesn’t look like it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah doesn’t look like it.

There is definitely not a team for each grade. Wow! WPLL taking money from people during covid-19 and then lying. Telling people they didn't make a team that doesn't even exits is just wrong!! Is this the leadership they teach at the summit?

Anyone have any thoughts about the UAAA tryouts?
This years format unfortunately had no drills segment so you had three different twenty minute games. If your daughters team had a good offense and she was D she probably never broke a sweat, vise-versa. Boo on that format.
Some coaches were better at keeping the teams rotating than others.
I know everyone like to say that the teams are mostly predetermined but a few girls that went to callback were result of back-scratching. And a MCD varsity girl who performed well did not make callback!
I do like to see good lacrosse played so I’m happy for the girls that got through. Although putting yourself down as attack or defense to stick out from the crowded midfield group is suspect and noted amongst the crowd.

No tshirts this year - just bc we’re in Covid doesn’t mean they can’t find something besides a pinnie to give these kids. CHEAP!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a pretty sad list from our region. Not at all competitive.

Gee thanks...my daughter made the LI list..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any thoughts about the UAAA tryouts?
This years format unfortunately had no drills segment so you had three different twenty minute games. If your daughters team had a good offense and she was D she probably never broke a sweat, vise-versa. Boo on that format.
Some coaches were better at keeping the teams rotating than others.
I know everyone like to say that the teams are mostly predetermined but a few girls that went to callback were result of back-scratching. And a MCD varsity girl who performed well did not make callback!
I do like to see good lacrosse played so I’m happy for the girls that got through. Although putting yourself down as attack or defense to stick out from the crowded midfield group is suspect and noted amongst the crowd.

No tshirts this year - just bc we’re in Covid doesn’t mean they can’t find something besides a pinnie to give these kids. CHEAP!

The format has always been terrible and the team you are placed on can make a huge difference especially if you get a few terrible ballhogs or overmatched kids . Not sure its your business what other kids put down as a position and the fact that you and your yenta friends care is ridiculous. My two daughters were middies on both their travel and high school teams out of necessity but were typical kids and enjoyed the "glory" of playing attack so would do so for UA and schoolgirls ,had nothing to do with trying to "stick out". That said I have no problem with a kid trying out for a position they have better chances of making.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a pretty sad list from our region. Not at all competitive.

Gee thanks...my daughter made the LI list..

Where is the list? I see 1 2021 and a bunch of 2022s. Is there a team for each grade listed somewhere?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any thoughts about the UAAA tryouts?
This years format unfortunately had no drills segment so you had three different twenty minute games. If your daughters team had a good offense and she was D she probably never broke a sweat, vise-versa. Boo on that format.
Some coaches were better at keeping the teams rotating than others.
I know everyone like to say that the teams are mostly predetermined but a few girls that went to callback were result of back-scratching. And a MCD varsity girl who performed well did not make callback!
I do like to see good lacrosse played so I’m happy for the girls that got through. Although putting yourself down as attack or defense to stick out from the crowded midfield group is suspect and noted amongst the crowd.

No tshirts this year - just bc we’re in Covid doesn’t mean they can’t find something besides a pinnie to give these kids. CHEAP!

Really? You're upset because girls tried out for positions they thought they could make? Let me guess you're the parent of the McD girl that did not make callback?

The teams were posted on twitter/Instagram by player and grad year..the broke it out by home state. But the age group team is all the girls listed as 2021, 2022 etc.. regardless of state

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any thoughts about the UAAA tryouts?
This years format unfortunately had no drills segment so you had three different twenty minute games. If your daughters team had a good offense and she was D she probably never broke a sweat, vise-versa. Boo on that format.
Some coaches were better at keeping the teams rotating than others.
I know everyone like to say that the teams are mostly predetermined but a few girls that went to callback were result of back-scratching. And a MCD varsity girl who performed well did not make callback!
I do like to see good lacrosse played so I’m happy for the girls that got through. Although putting yourself down as attack or defense to stick out from the crowded midfield group is suspect and noted amongst the crowd.

No tshirts this year - just bc we’re in Covid doesn’t mean they can’t find something besides a pinnie to give these kids. CHEAP!

Really? You're upset because girls tried out for positions they thought they could make? Let me guess you're the parent of the McD girl that did not make callback?

Politics again this year in the MD tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any thoughts about the UAAA tryouts?
This years format unfortunately had no drills segment so you had three different twenty minute games. If your daughters team had a good offense and she was D she probably never broke a sweat, vise-versa. Boo on that format.
Some coaches were better at keeping the teams rotating than others.
I know everyone like to say that the teams are mostly predetermined but a few girls that went to callback were result of back-scratching. And a MCD varsity girl who performed well did not make callback!
I do like to see good lacrosse played so I’m happy for the girls that got through. Although putting yourself down as attack or defense to stick out from the crowded midfield group is suspect and noted amongst the crowd.

No tshirts this year - just bc we’re in Covid doesn’t mean they can’t find something besides a pinnie to give these kids. CHEAP!

Really? You're upset because girls tried out for positions they thought they could make? Let me guess you're the parent of the McD girl that did not make callback?

You should know by now UA is about who you know or who you can pay off. So don’t cry about now.

Does UA matter anymore at all?
Gave too much money to Giselle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any thoughts about the UAAA tryouts?
This years format unfortunately had no drills segment so you had three different twenty minute games. If your daughters team had a good offense and she was D she probably never broke a sweat, vise-versa. Boo on that format.
Some coaches were better at keeping the teams rotating than others.
I know everyone like to say that the teams are mostly predetermined but a few girls that went to callback were result of back-scratching. And a MCD varsity girl who performed well did not make callback!
I do like to see good lacrosse played so I’m happy for the girls that got through. Although putting yourself down as attack or defense to stick out from the crowded midfield group is suspect and noted amongst the crowd.

No tshirts this year - just bc we’re in Covid doesn’t mean they can’t find something besides a pinnie to give these kids. CHEAP!

Really? You're upset because girls tried out for positions they thought they could make? Let me guess you're the parent of the McD girl that did not make callback?

You should know by now UA is about who you know or who you can pay off. So don’t cry about now.

its more about who the coaches the teams, then look at the girls selected, top heavy with either high school player or club players of the coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams were posted on twitter/Instagram by player and grad year..the broke it out by home state. But the age group team is all the girls listed as 2021, 2022 etc.. regardless of state

Exactly- there is no 2021 team from LI. There was supposed to be 1 team per age group. So again, if WPLL is saying you didn't make a team, but the team doesn't exist, that is total misrepresentation and a money grab.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams were posted on twitter/Instagram by player and grad year..the broke it out by home state. But the age group team is all the girls listed as 2021, 2022 etc.. regardless of state

Exactly- there is no 2021 team from LI. There was supposed to be 1 team per age group. So again, if WPLL is saying you didn't make a team, but the team doesn't exist, that is total misrepresentation and a money grab.

Seriously, sending girls emails that they didn't make the cut for a team that doesn't exist is so wrong.

Sorry. Can’t speak for your region but the Northeast/NE lists were not representative of the top players at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any thoughts about the UAAA tryouts?
This years format unfortunately had no drills segment so you had three different twenty minute games. If your daughters team had a good offense and she was D she probably never broke a sweat, vise-versa. Boo on that format.
Some coaches were better at keeping the teams rotating than others.
I know everyone like to say that the teams are mostly predetermined but a few girls that went to callback were result of back-scratching. And a MCD varsity girl who performed well did not make callback!
I do like to see good lacrosse played so I’m happy for the girls that got through. Although putting yourself down as attack or defense to stick out from the crowded midfield group is suspect and noted amongst the crowd.

No tshirts this year - just bc we’re in Covid doesn’t mean they can’t find something besides a pinnie to give these kids. CHEAP!

Playing for McD varsity doesn't automatically qualify you for anything. The girl I assume you are referring to has hardly played the last two years. The 2 2022 McD players that made the team are much bigger parts of the McD team than the 2021 player that didn't. Also, the 2021 girl you are referring to has never made a UA team while the 2 2022s have now made it for the second year in a row. Almost all the girls that made the team have been on a UA team previously. For 7 of them it is their 3rd straight year on the team. In terms of the structure of the tryout, every girl played in the same structure. Is it a perfect system of course not. There's no way it can be. And yes, girls that have made the team before and are known by the coaches have a better chance. But every year like clockwork people run here to complain. Everyone complained last year. Both Baltimore teams won the championship last year so maybe the evaluators know what they're looking at.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry. Can’t speak for your region but the Northeast/NE lists were not representative of the top players at all.

The same holds true with Baltimore list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry. Can’t speak for your region but the Northeast/NE lists were not representative of the top players at all.

The same holds true with Baltimore list

Some prople are using Covid to get their daughters on any kind of list.....very sad and transparant!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry. Can’t speak for your region but the Northeast/NE lists were not representative of the top players at all.

But did the "top" girls complete their applications and send video as required? if not then you cant blame those that did and made the list..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry. Can’t speak for your region but the Northeast/NE lists were not representative of the top players at all.

The same holds true with Baltimore list

Some people are using Covid to get their daughters on any kind of list.....very sad and transparent!

Right, its sad trying to make the best of a bad situation... this is the a recruiting year time to step up and be proactive

Maybe they didn’t send in apps? I’d have to assume they didn’t based on the list. But I think that kind of proves the point that it wasn’t a very competitive process.

But hey how could you know? It could’ve been. Depends on who applied. I’m not knocking anyone for trying it. You gotta do whatever you can in this environment. I’m just saying there’s girls on the list that I know who aren’t even on the top teams and are from clubs that aren’t very competitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe they didn’t send in apps? I’d have to assume they didn’t based on the list. But I think that kind of proves the point that it wasn’t a very competitive process.

But hey how could you know? It could’ve been. Depends on who applied. I’m not knocking anyone for trying it. You gotta do whatever you can in this environment. I’m just saying there’s girls on the list that I know who aren’t even on the top teams and are from clubs that aren’t very competitive.

isn't it like that for all lists....I mean really in some of these "top" whatever lists there are girls that aren't even playing for top teams? Its random

It is to a certain event. There’s always a random or two or whatever that are in. But from what I saw of the list for the area I know it went beyond that. All I’m saying is I saw the list and I thought I guess most people didn’t apply. It just didn’t reflect the top players in the region. Maybe your region is different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe they didn’t send in apps? I’d have to assume they didn’t based on the list. But I think that kind of proves the point that it wasn’t a very competitive process.

But hey how could you know? It could’ve been. Depends on who applied. I’m not knocking anyone for trying it. You gotta do whatever you can in this environment. I’m just saying there’s girls on the list that I know who aren’t even on the top teams and are from clubs that aren’t very competitive.

I think you are UA underclass with UA150? UA underclass does not have applications. You try out. You apply for UA150

New York State just cancelled all Fall Sports!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New York State just cancelled all Fall Sports!!!

Delayed to 9/21 not cxld.

So what does that mean for travel Lax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New York State just cancelled all Fall Sports!!!

Now don’t you feel kinda “notIntelligent” by spewing fake news. Are you premature in your love life also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams were posted on twitter/Instagram by player and grad year..the broke it out by home state. But the age group team is all the girls listed as 2021, 2022 etc.. regardless of state

Exactly- there is no 2021 team from LI. There was supposed to be 1 team per age group. So again, if WPLL is saying you didn't make a team, but the team doesn't exist, that is total misrepresentation and a money grab.

Seriously, sending girls emails that they didn't make the cut for a team that doesn't exist is so wrong.

I think some are confusing the WPLL futures event with UA. Futures was a virtual application with a fee. They never made teams at each grade as they advertised bc they didn't have enough players. Instead of refunding they simply told kids they didn't make it and kept the fee. They posted lists of kids in remaining grades that did make it. Then postponed and then cancelled the whole event!

http://cbs6albany.com/news/coronavirus/ ... itive-case

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/coronavi ... d/33352142

UA Will Not Happen...

Seems to me they could have pulled together some type of senior UA game and have been safe but I guess not worth the headache for them. Have they announced if they will be naming a Senior AA group and if so when.

There is a post on the MD board that the LI UAAA tryout is cancelled. Can anyone confirm?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is a post on the MD board that the LI UAAA tryout is cancelled. Can anyone confirm?

I know boys was postponed yesterday. I assume the girls was too.

There was an announcement yesterday that the LI and Upstate NY tryouts are postponed.. ( the UA games are scheduled for next week) Not much time to reschedule the tryouts.. so either no teams from NY are there or they move the tournament dates or cancel it outright..

Confirmed

Tryouts are postponed not cancelled.

This is insane! These gorilla are getting screwed and will now be directly competing with the 2023s

http://LaxFans/LaxFan/2020/07/28/hs-girls-iwlca-approve-ncaa-contact-date/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is insane! These gorilla are getting screwed and will now be directly competing with the 2023s/

Never mind the Gorillas... what about my 2022 daughter??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are postponed not cancelled.

According to under armor spokesman the tryouts were postponed due to Nassau county having a no contact rule in place regarding lacrosse. She said it is due to health restrictions in Nassau county.

I guess the HS league being run at Mitchell field is ok but UA isn’t. The whole thing is absurd.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are postponed not cancelled.

According to under armor spokesman the tryouts were postponed due to Nassau county having a no contact rule in place regarding lacrosse. She said it is due to health restrictions in Nassau county.

I guess the HS league being run at Mitchell field is ok but UA isn’t. The whole thing is absurd.

Did the spokesman say anything further ? The games are a week away.

^^ is it that hard to move the venue? break the tryout into multiple smaller groups to reduce the crowds.. as we all know 80% of the team is "already decided" ( and I don't think tha'ts a mistake as the identity of the top LI players is mostly known) .. but those other 20% need to tryout..the event is next week... somebody better do something

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^ is it that hard to move the venue? break the tryout into multiple smaller groups to reduce the crowds.. as we all know 80% of the team is "already decided" ( and I don't think tha'ts a mistake as the identity of the top LI players is mostly known) .. but those other 20% need to tryout..the event is next week... somebody better do something

Nope, same thing they did with WPLL Futures. Took your money with no intentions!

I'd urge everyone to contact their club directors and the NCAA about this July 1st proposal. The IWLCA clearly did not consider the impact on the 2022 class (or worse, did not care). How can girls figure out their lists, get to know coaches, schools, etc., when they MAY NOT EVEN BE CONTACTED until well into their senior years? If D1 recruiting takes 4-5 months (and it may be longer as July/August are two of the months), girls cannot even apply to schools that may be interested in them. And, why is only ONE sport seeking this relief? We've seen Navy lacrosse commit girls already this year, not to mention field hockey, baseball, football/basketball. If a college coach doesn't want to offer a girl, that's their right, but to not be able to COMMUNICATE is absurd. I thought the IWLCA would be "there for you" when this was over- this does the opposite - it takes away the chance to evaluate completely the D1 landscape.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd urge everyone to contact their club directors and the NCAA about this July 1st proposal. The IWLCA clearly did not consider the impact on the 2022 class (or worse, did not care). How can girls figure out their lists, get to know coaches, schools, etc., when they MAY NOT EVEN BE CONTACTED until well into their senior years? If D1 recruiting takes 4-5 months (and it may be longer as July/August are two of the months), girls cannot even apply to schools that may be interested in them. And, why is only ONE sport seeking this relief? We've seen Navy lacrosse commit girls already this year, not to mention field hockey, baseball, football/basketball. If a college coach doesn't want to offer a girl, that's their right, but to not be able to COMMUNICATE is absurd. I thought the IWLCA would be "there for you" when this was over- this does the opposite - it takes away the chance to evaluate completely the D1 landscape.

Unfortunately, with the state the country is in a lot will take the 5th year. they don't really need many 2022s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd urge everyone to contact their club directors and the NCAA about this July 1st proposal. The IWLCA clearly did not consider the impact on the 2022 class (or worse, did not care). How can girls figure out their lists, get to know coaches, schools, etc., when they MAY NOT EVEN BE CONTACTED until well into their senior years? If D1 recruiting takes 4-5 months (and it may be longer as July/August are two of the months), girls cannot even apply to schools that may be interested in them. And, why is only ONE sport seeking this relief? We've seen Navy lacrosse commit girls already this year, not to mention field hockey, baseball, football/basketball. If a college coach doesn't want to offer a girl, that's their right, but to not be able to COMMUNICATE is absurd. I thought the IWLCA would be "there for you" when this was over- this does the opposite - it takes away the chance to evaluate completely the D1 landscape.

NCAA does not care about your opinion. Don’t waist your time. I just find it odd that it’s only girls. Are boys next?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^ is it that hard to move the venue? break the tryout into multiple smaller groups to reduce the crowds.. as we all know 80% of the team is "already decided" ( and I don't think tha'ts a mistake as the identity of the top LI players is mostly known) .. but those other 20% need to tryout..the event is next week... somebody better do something

Event will be postponed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd urge everyone to contact their club directors and the NCAA about this July 1st proposal. The IWLCA clearly did not consider the impact on the 2022 class (or worse, did not care). How can girls figure out their lists, get to know coaches, schools, etc., when they MAY NOT EVEN BE CONTACTED until well into their senior years? If D1 recruiting takes 4-5 months (and it may be longer as July/August are two of the months), girls cannot even apply to schools that may be interested in them. And, why is only ONE sport seeking this relief? We've seen Navy lacrosse commit girls already this year, not to mention field hockey, baseball, football/basketball. If a college coach doesn't want to offer a girl, that's their right, but to not be able to COMMUNICATE is absurd. I thought the IWLCA would be "there for you" when this was over- this does the opposite - it takes away the chance to evaluate completely the D1 landscape.

Unfortunately, with the state the country is in a lot will take the 5th year. they don't really need many 2022s.

They cancelled Presidents Cup, the biggest recruiting event of the year months ago!

Presidents Cup isn't cancelled, it's just not being backed by IWLCA...Corrigan put out a statement that it is still on

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd urge everyone to contact their club directors and the NCAA about this July 1st proposal. The IWLCA clearly did not consider the impact on the 2022 class (or worse, did not care). How can girls figure out their lists, get to know coaches, schools, etc., when they MAY NOT EVEN BE CONTACTED until well into their senior years? If D1 recruiting takes 4-5 months (and it may be longer as July/August are two of the months), girls cannot even apply to schools that may be interested in them. And, why is only ONE sport seeking this relief? We've seen Navy lacrosse commit girls already this year, not to mention field hockey, baseball, football/basketball. If a college coach doesn't want to offer a girl, that's their right, but to not be able to COMMUNICATE is absurd. I thought the IWLCA would be "there for you" when this was over- this does the opposite - it takes away the chance to evaluate completely the D1 landscape.

This will have a huge negative impact to the 2022 class. I don't understand the logic. Am I missing something? They need their junior year to communicate with these coaches and teams and visit and evaluate the school to be sure both are a good fit. These girls already have a lot of game film. They were watched in-person all last Summer and Fall and already have a lot of film even if they didn't attend any tournaments this summer. This class has already been to college camps, showcases and clinics over the years. The only benefit to delaying until July 2021 is for the coaches and not the players. It gives coaches the chance to figure out how many roster spots are actually available due to the 5th year and to combine the 2022/2023 recruiting classes to fill these open spots. And of course it gives the D2 & D3 coaches a huge head start. Maybe these schools will be able to attract recruits who would've otherwise gone to a D1 program. I would hope the NCAA wouldn't approve this just for women's lacrosse but keep the same earlier dates for the 2022 boys as well as all the other sports (field hockey, tennis, etc).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^ is it that hard to move the venue? break the tryout into multiple smaller groups to reduce the crowds.. as we all know 80% of the team is "already decided" ( and I don't think tha'ts a mistake as the identity of the top LI players is mostly known) .. but those other 20% need to tryout..the event is next week... somebody better do something

Event will be postponed.

So the UA tourney will be a different format. There are now 4 regions that will compete in a round robin event. Winner of each region north, south, east and west will then move on to the championship weekend tbd.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

Softball is seeking the same change to 7/1/2021 as well, its not just lax. Curious to see what the boys coaches do.

interesting, girls lacrosse is considered "non contact" lacrosse so it falls under "moderate risk" and has been good to go since July 6th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

Outside the box? They’re turning it into a money grab because they don’t want to refund. Seems lame!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

Outside the box? They’re turning it into a money grab because they don’t want to refund. Seems lame!

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

They are the quality bar.

Its not Under Armour, there still won't be anyone watching. Its about MONEY.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its not Under Armour, there still won't be anyone watching. Its about MONEY.

It may not be sponsored by Under Armour anymore ( I guarantee after this crazy year is over it will find new sponsorship from a big corporation/organization) but its still the place to be seen .. Once the streaming starts and the the highlight videos are posted the coaches will be watching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its not Under Armour, there still won't be anyone watching. Its about MONEY.

It may not be sponsored by Under Armour anymore ( I guarantee after this crazy year is over it will find new sponsorship from a big corporation/organization) but its still the place to be seen .. Once the streaming starts and the the highlight videos are posted the coaches will be watching.

UA had to drop sponsorship due to liability issues concerning Covid. They will return next year as the sponsor. You can keep trying to belittle the event but it’s still the premiere event of the summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

Outside the box? They’re turning it into a money grab because they don’t want to refund. Seems lame!

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

Outside the box? They’re turning it into a money grab because they don’t want to refund. Seems lame!

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

OK, so b’more/naptown guy here. CS is a b’more entity and perhaps put NY/LI at a disadvantage on purpose?

Or, NY/LI govm’t/policy put NY/LI at a disadvantage? Nobody can say, however when there are teams/organizations pulling out of tournaments last minute, it certainly indicates that these are not typical summer lacrosse times.

#voiceofreason

Nah, I don’t think anyone was conspiring against the LI teams.. I think LI was forced to wait till the last minute to hold tryouts due to restrictions in place in Nassau County.. there aren’t that many locations capable of holding a tryout that aren’t school fields .. no way school districts were allowing that, or a county/town fields.
Btw
I heard a rumor that some seniors were sent emails in the last day or so about being selected for Senior AA team? Anyone else confirm?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

Outside the box? They’re turning it into a money grab because they don’t want to refund. Seems lame!

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Format for CSE All-America Games -
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/all-america-games-shift-to-regional-format/56694
Smells like desperation. I imagine some will be happy with the update.

I give them credit for thinking outside the box.. well done Corrigan. Until proven otherwise the Under Armour Underclass & All American Games are still the best High school event.

Outside the box? They’re turning it into a money grab because they don’t want to refund. Seems lame!

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.[/quote]

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.[/quote]

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.[/quote]

Please tell us the “automatic” choices . UA senior AA is ultra competitive . Way more competitive than US lacrosse AA ( first team not the other nonsense) and how many seniors on LI have that award . In the end probably 5-7 LI players will receive the honor and there are really only 1-2 automatics and I doubt you know them both .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.[/quote]

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.[/quote]

Please tell us the “automatic” choices . UA senior AA is ultra competitive . Way more competitive than US lacrosse AA ( first team not the other nonsense) and how many seniors on LI have that award . In the end probably 5-7 LI players will receive the honor and there are really only 1-2 automatics and I doubt you know them both .[/quote]

You seem like a real pleasure to be around with your nasty, elitist tone. The previous poster made a valid point about the UA AAs not being promoted. This years process does seem to be secretive to me also, kind of like the way they've been jerking everyone a round the whole time, They should have done the responsible thing and cancel this event long ago. Oh, and my older kid was a UA AA, so I know how it works!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.[/quote]

Please tell us the “automatic” choices . UA senior AA is ultra competitive . Way more competitive than US lacrosse AA ( first team not the other nonsense) and how many seniors on LI have that award . In the end probably 5-7 LI players will receive the honor and there are really only 1-2 automatics and I doubt you know them both .[/quote]

You seem like a real pleasure to be around with your nasty, elitist tone. The previous poster made a valid point about the UA AAs not being promoted. This years process does seem to be secretive to me also, kind of like the way they've been jerking everyone a round the whole time, They should have done the responsible thing and cancel this event long ago. Oh, and my older kid was a UA AA, so I know how it works![/quote]

How was it less secretive in the past in regard to senior AA other than they are going to announce them later than normal .Talk about a pleasure to be around you obviously could not help yourself in mentioning your kids accolade which is probably something you “ mention” as much as you can. Hey Einstein we are in the middle of a world wide pandemic with every state adjusting their rules in regard to travel daily so yes UA is changing things on the fly . Your answer is to just not even try and cancel the whole thing ,as if that’s so much better . My point was it is very rare that anyone is an automatic when making the Senior UA team , you are obviously one of those parents who belittle the kids that earn these awards because you know better just like the poster who knows these players who are obvious automatic picks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.

Please tell us the “automatic” choices . UA senior AA is ultra competitive . Way more competitive than US lacrosse AA ( first team not the other nonsense) and how many seniors on LI have that award . In the end probably 5-7 LI players will receive the honor and there are really only 1-2 automatics and I doubt you know them both .[/quote]

You seem like a real pleasure to be around with your nasty, elitist tone. The previous poster made a valid point about the UA AAs not being promoted. This years process does seem to be secretive to me also, kind of like the way they've been jerking everyone a round the whole time, They should have done the responsible thing and cancel this event long ago. Oh, and my older kid was a UA AA, so I know how it works![/quote]

How was it less secretive in the past in regard to senior AA other than they are going to announce them later than normal .Talk about a pleasure to be around you obviously could not help yourself in mentioning your kids accolade which is probably something you “ mention” as much as you can. Hey Einstein we are in the middle of a world wide pandemic with every state adjusting their rules in regard to travel daily so yes UA is changing things on the fly . Your answer is to just not even try and cancel the whole thing ,as if that’s so much better . My point was it is very rare that anyone is an automatic when making the Senior UA team , you are obviously one of those parents who belittle the kids that earn these awards because you know better just like the poster who knows these players who are obvious automatic picks.[/quote]

Later than usual??? The kids are headed to college next week! The announcement should have been made in May. It’s not like they were able to use their accolades from spring sports which normally is a substantial factor in picking the team. No reason to wait this long...nobody even cares anymore, especially since there’s no game to play. Lost year, let it go!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.

NY tryouts are not canceled they are postponed. They will be done.

The seniors that made the AA team were all called almost 2 weeks ago. There are no automatic choices. If they weren't called they didn't make it Even in normal years, the players that are announced in each wave are called well before the wave is announced. Of course there will be quite a bit of publicity and fanfare when the team is announced. Again, I don't want to go into specifics because the players don't know what's being done. In these crazy times Corrigan and Inside Lacrosse are doing the best they can to make this a good experience. Another hiccup is that UA stopped producing lacrosse equipment so it limits what can be given to the seniors. UA will remain a main sponsor going forward but only as an apparel provider. Assume another company (Maverik or STX) will take over the equipment going forward. UA is under contract for a couple more years to sponsor the event. They don't actually provide any money to the event so there's no reason for them to back out of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.

NY tryouts are not canceled they are postponed. They will be done.

The seniors that made the AA team were all called almost 2 weeks ago. There are no automatic choices. If they weren't called they didn't make it Even in normal years, the players that are announced in each wave are called well before the wave is announced. Of course there will be quite a bit of publicity and fanfare when the team is announced. Again, I don't want to go into specifics because the players don't know what's being done. In these crazy times Corrigan and Inside Lacrosse are doing the best they can to make this a good experience. Another hiccup is that UA stopped producing lacrosse equipment so it limits what can be given to the seniors. UA will remain a main sponsor going forward but only as an apparel provider. Assume another company (Maverik or STX) will take over the equipment going forward. UA is under contract for a couple more years to sponsor the event. They don't actually provide any money to the event so there's no reason for them to back out of it.

Lol! Nobody cares! That ship has sailed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Completely wrong. You only pay for the tryouts. No additional charge if you make a team. Corrigan would only have to refund the NY registration fees. Corrigan is trying to do the right thing and hold the best event he can under the circumstances.

LOL...doing the right thing. Is stringing along the 2020 seniors who played several summers of the underclass tournament, helping to make it an elite event, hoping to be selected for the Senior Game doing the right thing? Under Armour announced cancellation of the games on June 1st yet here we are almost August 1st and no mention of that on the UA lax website. Meanwhile, CSE postpones the NY tryouts and in a heartbeat has an all new regional format with dates and locations posted on the website. Mysteriously, it wasn't until all the other regions had tryouts that this was announced, although clearly they had it in their back pocket long enough to make arrangements. Why be honest and transparent when there is more money to be made?? Parents and players are just along for the ride but hopefully will at least get some film for coaches to see. Still I think most coaches will proceed cautiously until they can watch players in person and film will only go so far.

Chill out. The kids that made the UA Senior Team have been informed. IL and Corrigan are planning something special to announce it publicly since there isn't a game. I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what they are planning but they are doing their best to make it memorable for them. We get enough conspiracy theories in the news everyday without making up nonsense about HS lacrosse.

Fact: Under Armour announced cancellation of the Senior Lax Games on June 1st
Fact: CSE to this day has stated nothing publicly about it and never updated their website to acknowledge cancellation or say something else was in the works
Fact: The NY tryouts were not called off until after all the other regional tryouts took place
Fact: A new regional format was announced and posted on their website right away

I'm glad to hear they are doing something to honor the seniors. Seems weird it's so secretive when in the past they publicly made such a big deal promoting it. Notifications must be a recent development because some players we know who would seem to be automatic choices didn't know anything a few days ago.

NY tryouts are not canceled they are postponed. They will be done.

The seniors that made the AA team were all called almost 2 weeks ago. There are no automatic choices. If they weren't called they didn't make it Even in normal years, the players that are announced in each wave are called well before the wave is announced. Of course there will be quite a bit of publicity and fanfare when the team is announced. Again, I don't want to go into specifics because the players don't know what's being done. In these crazy times Corrigan and Inside Lacrosse are doing the best they can to make this a good experience. Another hiccup is that UA stopped producing lacrosse equipment so it limits what can be given to the seniors. UA will remain a main sponsor going forward but only as an apparel provider. Assume another company (Maverik or STX) will take over the equipment going forward. UA is under contract for a couple more years to sponsor the event. They don't actually provide any money to the event so there's no reason for them to back out of it.

It will be like every other year, most that make it deserve it, some that make shouldn’t be there and some that should make it won’t. It is the same for all these events and it will continue to be the same for years to come. Good luck to ALL the seniors that are playing in college!

"Lol! Nobody cares! That ship has sailed!"

Typical hater, obviously his kid did not get the call. When the kids are announced you should go up and tell one of the dads your thoughts on the matter. We all know you are too much of a flaccid coward to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Lol! Nobody cares! That ship has sailed!"

Typical hater, obviously his kid did not get the call. When the kids are announced you should go up and tell one of the dads your thoughts on the matter. We all know you are too much of a flaccid coward to do that.

Nice try, but my daughter is not a senior. You are a funny troll!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Lol! Nobody cares! That ship has sailed!"

Typical hater, obviously his kid did not get the call. When the kids are announced you should go up and tell one of the dads your thoughts on the matter. We all know you are too much of a flaccid coward to do that.

Nice try, but my daughter is not a senior. You are a funny troll!

So you're just an A hole? I'm pretty sure the kids that make the senior AA team care that you think the ship has sailed. It's a huge honor and a great way to end a terrible year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Lol! Nobody cares! That ship has sailed!"

Typical hater, obviously his kid did not get the call. When the kids are announced you should go up and tell one of the dads your thoughts on the matter. We all know you are too much of a flaccid coward to do that.

Nice try, but my daughter is not a senior. You are a funny troll!

So you're just an A hole? I'm pretty sure the kids that make the senior AA team care that you think the ship has sailed. It's a huge honor and a great way to end a terrible year.

The lax year ended back in March. There are really no true senior AAs because there was no senior season to base it on. Same reason there are no US Lacrosse AAs this year. UA AAs was a fun event to watch the kids who were chosen play the game, but since there’s no game, there is no point!No need to get your panties twisted. Just the facts. I can see you’re happy that your daughter made a useless list, and I’m sure you can’t wait for the list to come out so you brag about it, maybe your last chance, your daughter may disappear in college!

How was Lacrosse Amplified last Weeknd ? Did they enforce the rules set forth by Thinklax?

“The lax year ended back in March. There are really no true senior AAs because there was no senior season to base it on. Same reason there are no US Lacrosse AAs this year. UA AAs was a fun event to watch the kids who were chosen play the game, but since there’s no game, there is no point!No need to get your panties twisted. Just the facts. I can see you’re happy that your daughter made a useless list, and I’m sure you can’t wait for the list to come out so you brag about it, maybe your last chance, your daughter may disappear in college”

Talk about a flaccid coward who manages to be completely ignorant . First off genius the selection is not based only on their senior year ,it’s based on their high school career both in school ball and travel . For someone who keeps saying “ just the facts “ you sure are ill informed . Your logic is that of a child , you essentially state if there is no game than no reason to give these kids the honor of UA AA but by your logic there is no reason any year to give kids All County or US lacrosse AA as they never play any game either . In the end you are one of those jealous parents who can’t stand that their kid is just not very good . Never understand how you diminishing the accomplishments of young girls makes you feel better about yourself and I would guarantee your kid feels the disappointment you have in her . One more “fact” for you is that UA senior AA status is the best indicator of future college success .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“The lax year ended back in March. There are really no true senior AAs because there was no senior season to base it on. Same reason there are no US Lacrosse AAs this year. UA AAs was a fun event to watch the kids who were chosen play the game, but since there’s no game, there is no point!No need to get your panties twisted. Just the facts. I can see you’re happy that your daughter made a useless list, and I’m sure you can’t wait for the list to come out so you brag about it, maybe your last chance, your daughter may disappear in college”

Talk about a flaccid coward who manages to be completely ignorant . First off genius the selection is not based only on their senior year ,it’s based on their high school career both in school ball and travel . For someone who keeps saying “ just the facts “ you sure are ill informed . Your logic is that of a child , you essentially state if there is no game than no reason to give these kids the honor of UA AA but by your logic there is no reason any year to give kids All County or US lacrosse AA as they never play any game either . In the end you are one of those jealous parents who can’t stand that their kid is just not very good . Never understand how you diminishing the accomplishments of young girls makes you feel better about yourself and I would guarantee your kid feels the disappointment you have in her . One more “fact” for you is that UA senior AA status is the best indicator of future college success .

The only one flaccid is you, ask your wife angry man! If you can’t handle facts now, college will be a rough ride for you! Be well and get some sleep

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“The lax year ended back in March. There are really no true senior AAs because there was no senior season to base it on. Same reason there are no US Lacrosse AAs this year. UA AAs was a fun event to watch the kids who were chosen play the game, but since there’s no game, there is no point!No need to get your panties twisted. Just the facts. I can see you’re happy that your daughter made a useless list, and I’m sure you can’t wait for the list to come out so you brag about it, maybe your last chance, your daughter may disappear in college”

Talk about a flaccid coward who manages to be completely ignorant . First off genius the selection is not based only on their senior year ,it’s based on their high school career both in school ball and travel . For someone who keeps saying “ just the facts “ you sure are ill informed . Your logic is that of a child , you essentially state if there is no game than no reason to give these kids the honor of UA AA but by your logic there is no reason any year to give kids All County or US lacrosse AA as they never play any game either . In the end you are one of those jealous parents who can’t stand that their kid is just not very good . Never understand how you diminishing the accomplishments of young girls makes you feel better about yourself and I would guarantee your kid feels the disappointment you have in her . One more “fact” for you is that UA senior AA status is the best indicator of future college success .

The only one flaccid is you, ask your wife angry man! If you can’t handle facts now, college will be a rough ride for you! Be well and get some sleep

I don’t have to I just asked yours and she said no problem in that department . Just say congrats and well deserved to these kids instead of acting like a coward and bashing high school girls accomplishments . Your kid knows your disappointment , honestly if you just acted happy for these kids she would be way more proud of you than the embarrassment she feels now . Go take your medication and look up what a fact is as you have no clue .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Lol! Nobody cares! That ship has sailed!"

Typical hater, obviously his kid did not get the call. When the kids are announced you should go up and tell one of the dads your thoughts on the matter. We all know you are too much of a flaccid coward to do that.

Nice try, but my daughter is not a senior. You are a funny troll!

So you're just an A hole? I'm pretty sure the kids that make the senior AA team care that you think the ship has sailed. It's a huge honor and a great way to end a terrible year.

The lax year ended back in March. There are really no true senior AAs because there was no senior season to base it on. Same reason there are no US Lacrosse AAs this year. UA AAs was a fun event to watch the kids who were chosen play the game, but since there’s no game, there is no point!No need to get your panties twisted. Just the facts. I can see you’re happy that your daughter made a useless list, and I’m sure you can’t wait for the list to come out so you brag about it, maybe your last chance, your daughter may disappear in college!

My daughter is a 2021 so no she wasn't chosen. But I do appreciate the fact that these kids missed their senior year that unlike the college players they'll never get back. You obviously have no idea how the UA process works. The waves start to be announced before many teams even start playing conference games. The UA teams are not based on senior year. Not sure why you feel the need to diminish the accomplishments of HS kids. Pretty sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“The lax year ended back in March. There are really no true senior AAs because there was no senior season to base it on. Same reason there are no US Lacrosse AAs this year. UA AAs was a fun event to watch the kids who were chosen play the game, but since there’s no game, there is no point!No need to get your panties twisted. Just the facts. I can see you’re happy that your daughter made a useless list, and I’m sure you can’t wait for the list to come out so you brag about it, maybe your last chance, your daughter may disappear in college”

Talk about a flaccid coward who manages to be completely ignorant . First off genius the selection is not based only on their senior year ,it’s based on their high school career both in school ball and travel . For someone who keeps saying “ just the facts “ you sure are ill informed . Your logic is that of a child , you essentially state if there is no game than no reason to give these kids the honor of UA AA but by your logic there is no reason any year to give kids All County or US lacrosse AA as they never play any game either . In the end you are one of those jealous parents who can’t stand that their kid is just not very good . Never understand how you diminishing the accomplishments of young girls makes you feel better about yourself and I would guarantee your kid feels the disappointment you have in her . One more “fact” for you is that UA senior AA status is the best indicator of future college success .

The only one flaccid is you, ask your wife angry man! If you can’t handle facts now, college will be a rough ride for you! Be well and get some sleep

I don’t have to I just asked yours and she said no problem in that department . Just say congrats and well deserved to these kids instead of acting like a coward and bashing high school girls accomplishments . Your kid knows your disappointment , honestly if you just acted happy for these kids she would be way more proud of you than the embarrassment she feels now . Go take your medication and look up what a fact is as you have no clue .

Wow! I thought the Dad's ranking the best 4th grade youth club teams were crazy, but you guys are a special kind of nuts.
Way to be the stereotype and live thru your kid!

Did anyone catch the IWLCA Town Hall on moving the recruiting timeline?

Nope, care to share your thoughts..

Just wondering if they explained why they need so much more time in the no contact period. Especially given women’s lacrosse is an outlier here.

Last nights webinar is not posted yet, but there are a few others, I watched the 6/9/2020 meeting.. not really any good news for High School players.

link attached

https://www.iwlca.org/page/show/5773666-webinars-and-town-halls

Strange that a Northport girl was selected to the UA team, yet she hasn’t play in two years?🤔

2020 UA All-America Senior Girls:
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ll-america-senior-girls-selections/56721

Here is the list... start throwing stones in 3, 2, 1...

North
ATTACK
Mackenzie Hoeg, Mattituck (N.Y.), Virginia
Leah Holmes, Hackley (N.Y.), Northwestern
Ashley Humphrey, Darien (Conn.), Stanford
Sarah Jaques, Darien (Conn.), Stanford
Morgan Schwab, Fairport (N.Y.), Virginia

MIDFIELD
Annabelle Burke, Loyola Academy (Ill.), Michigan
Alexa Gentile, Northport (N.Y.), North Carolina
Ailish Kelly, Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.), Stanford
Jennifer Markey, Mt. Sinai (N.Y.), Syracuse
Ellie Masera, Eastport-South Manor (N.Y.), Stony Brook
Danielle Pavinelli, Northport (N.Y.), Florida
Andrea Reynolds, Holderness School (N.H.), Boston College
Gina-Marie Ricciotti, Bridgewater-Raynham (Mass.), Harvard
Kristen Shanahan, Sachem East (N.Y.), Notre Dame
Isabelle Smith, Westhampton Beach (N.Y.), Boston College
Sophie Student, St. Mark’s (Mass.), Virginia Tech
Fallon Vaughn, Concord-Carlisle (Mass.), Yale

DEFENSE
Katie Goodale, Riverhead (N.Y.), Syracuse
Annabelle Hasselbeck, Rivers School (Mass.), Boston College
Amelia Sheehan, Sacred Heart Greenwich (Conn.), North Carolina

GOALIE
Olivia Geoghan, McDonogh (Md.), Stanford
Julia Hammerschlag, McDonogh (Md.), Florida

South
ATTACK
Campbell Case, St. Margaret’s (Calif.), Johns Hopkins
Reilly Casey, Bishop Ireton (Va.), North Carolina
Katie DeSimone, St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), Duke
Maggi Hall, Bel Air (Md.), Florida
Caitlyn Wurzburger, American Heritage-Delray (Fla.), North Carolina

MIDFIELD
Kayla Abernathy, McDonogh (Md.), Penn State
Maggie Bostain, Collegiate (Va.), Virginia
Eloise Clevenger, Marriotts Ridge (Md.), Maryland
Gretchen Gilmore, Glen Ridge (N.J.), Penn State
Kristin O’Neill, Archbishop Spalding (Md.), Penn State
Natalie Pansini, Agnes Irwin (Pa.), Princeton
Keelin Schlageter, Oak Knoll (N.J.), Notre Dame
Shannon Smith, Roland Park Country School (Md.), North Carolina
Kathryn Toohey, Garnet Valley (Pa.), Penn State
Devon Whitaker, Episcopal Academy (Pa.), Virginia
Aubrey Williams, Bishop Ireton (Va.), Virginia
Alanna Wray, Liberty (Md.), Loyola
Sophia Wrisk, Catonsville (Md.), Maryland

DEFENSE
Aine Maseker, Oak Knoll (N.J.), Notre Dame
Kennedy Williamson, Glenelg Country School (Md.), Maryland

GOALIE
Regan Alexander, Lake Highland Prep (Fla.), Ohio State
Chloe Provenzano, American Heritage-Delray (Fla.), Harvard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Strange that a Northport girl was selected to the UA team, yet she hasn’t play in two years?🤔

She good tho...

Without injury and getting in trouble early in H.S., she could of been best 2020 hands down. Legacy select is a head scratcher.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Without injury and getting in trouble early in H.S., she could of been best 2020 hands down. Legacy select is a head scratcher.

Injuries stink , but to be placed on an AA team without playing for two seasons is ludicrous! Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Not fair at all to girls who actually played. That’s why US Lacrosse AA is more meaningful, because it’s earned. This is a joke and the politics are evident!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy select is a head scratcher.

You mean one of the 3 High school girls on the U19 team. No mystery there...she good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy select is a head scratcher.

You mean one of the 3 High school girls on the U19 team. No mystery there...she good

She didn’t actually play in the U19 games, she was cut from the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Without injury and getting in trouble early in H.S., she could of been best 2020 hands down. Legacy select is a head scratcher.

Injury is one thing, unfortunately a lot of girls have dealt with it. stinks that you get rewarded when you screwed up and it was nobody’s fault but your own. Doesn’t say a lot for the good players who did the right thing for 4 years In HS but just don’t have the right coach!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Without injury and getting in trouble early in H.S., she could of been best 2020 hands down. Legacy select is a head scratcher.

Injuries stink , but to be placed on an AA team without playing for two seasons is ludicrous! Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Not fair at all to girls who actually played. That’s why US Lacrosse AA is more meaningful, because it’s earned. This is a joke and the politics are evident!

While I agree that US lacrosse AA may be more meaningful on LI it’s a joke nationally . When you have as many US lacrosse AA from Cali alone as you have UA AA it’s a bit ridiculous. I do think the NP pick hurts UA credibility as I don’t think she has played a season in 3-4 years and the last time I watched her play was on the CR rehab tour at the UA tournament and it was a train wreck . That said congrats to all the others who made the list , well deserved , and there are definitely a few other from LI who could have made it ( BBP kid who I think has made every UA team ) but in general I think they got it right .

Lots of girls are good. 3 of her H.S. teammates are good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last nights webinar is not posted yet, but there are a few others, I watched the 6/9/2020 meeting.. not really any good news for High School players.

link attached

https://www.iwlca.org/page/show/5773666-webinars-and-town-halls

Thanks for the link, good explanation of the thought process behind the decision. Covid-19 is impacting all college and high school lacrosse players. What if the 2021 spring lax season is canceled before it even begins? Won't every college player then retain that year of eligibility? There is the five year clock so I think that would keep some from being able to return but I'm not 100% sure. A lot of 2020s are beginning college this fall without normal fall practices and fall ball; and if there is no spring season many will want to extend their college career a year to have four "normal" years. 2022s as a whole are not going to be skipped, but classes will likely be smaller and it's better for all PSAs when coaches know their needs and resources before making offers. Plus, film only goes so far and coaches want to see players play in person and get them on campus to evaluate if they are a good fit with team culture. As a parent whose daughter has already been through the process, I would say spending time with coaches and current players on campus is a very important step in making a decision. It's a tough situation for all but there is so much uncertainty and it's important to look at the big picture.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of girls are good. 3 of her H.S. teammates are good.

What are you talking about ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last nights webinar is not posted yet, but there are a few others, I watched the 6/9/2020 meeting.. not really any good news for High School players.

link attached

https://www.iwlca.org/page/show/5773666-webinars-and-town-halls

Thanks for the link, good explanation of the thought process behind the decision. Covid-19 is impacting all college and high school lacrosse players. What if the 2021 spring lax season is canceled before it even begins? Won't every college player then retain that year of eligibility? There is the five year clock so I think that would keep some from being able to return but I'm not 100% sure. A lot of 2020s are beginning college this fall without normal fall practices and fall ball; and if there is no spring season many will want to extend their college career a year to have four "normal" years. 2022s as a whole are not going to be skipped, but classes will likely be smaller and it's better for all PSAs when coaches know their needs and resources before making offers. Plus, film only goes so far and coaches want to see players play in person and get them on campus to evaluate if they are a good fit with team culture. As a parent whose daughter has already been through the process, I would say spending time with coaches and current players on campus is a very important step in making a decision. It's a tough situation for all but there is so much uncertainty and it's important to look at the big picture.

Here's a summary of the town hall: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...-i-contact-date-proposal-town-hall/56725

What’s interesting is if the 2021 season gets cancelled before it starts the current freshmen under NCAA rules will all be eligible to play for a post grad year and maybe 2 post grad years as their clock has not even started , that could impact recruiting thru 2026 -2027 high school graduation years .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of girls are good. 3 of her H.S. teammates are good.

oh look, a legacy parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s interesting is if the 2021 season gets cancelled before it starts the current freshmen under NCAA rules will all be eligible to play for a post grad year and maybe 2 post grad years as their clock has not even started , that could impact recruiting thru 2026 -2027 high school graduation years .

why would 2021 season be cancelled already? I prefer to be optomistic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the list... start throwing stones in 3, 2, 1...

North
ATTACK
Mackenzie Hoeg, Mattituck (N.Y.), Virginia
Leah Holmes, Hackley (N.Y.), Northwestern
Ashley Humphrey, Darien (Conn.), Stanford
Sarah Jaques, Darien (Conn.), Stanford
Morgan Schwab, Fairport (N.Y.), Virginia

MIDFIELD
Annabelle Burke, Loyola Academy (Ill.), Michigan
Alexa Gentile, Northport (N.Y.), North Carolina
Ailish Kelly, Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.), Stanford
Jennifer Markey, Mt. Sinai (N.Y.), Syracuse
Ellie Masera, Eastport-South Manor (N.Y.), Stony Brook
Danielle Pavinelli, Northport (N.Y.), Florida
Andrea Reynolds, Holderness School (N.H.), Boston College
Gina-Marie Ricciotti, Bridgewater-Raynham (Mass.), Harvard
Kristen Shanahan, Sachem East (N.Y.), Notre Dame
Isabelle Smith, Westhampton Beach (N.Y.), Boston College
Sophie Student, St. Mark’s (Mass.), Virginia Tech
Fallon Vaughn, Concord-Carlisle (Mass.), Yale

DEFENSE
Katie Goodale, Riverhead (N.Y.), Syracuse
Annabelle Hasselbeck, Rivers School (Mass.), Boston College
Amelia Sheehan, Sacred Heart Greenwich (Conn.), North Carolina

GOALIE
Olivia Geoghan, McDonogh (Md.), Stanford
Julia Hammerschlag, McDonogh (Md.), Florida

South
ATTACK
Campbell Case, St. Margaret’s (Calif.), Johns Hopkins
Reilly Casey, Bishop Ireton (Va.), North Carolina
Katie DeSimone, St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), Duke
Maggi Hall, Bel Air (Md.), Florida
Caitlyn Wurzburger, American Heritage-Delray (Fla.), North Carolina

MIDFIELD
Kayla Abernathy, McDonogh (Md.), Penn State
Maggie Bostain, Collegiate (Va.), Virginia
Eloise Clevenger, Marriotts Ridge (Md.), Maryland
Gretchen Gilmore, Glen Ridge (N.J.), Penn State
Kristin O’Neill, Archbishop Spalding (Md.), Penn State
Natalie Pansini, Agnes Irwin (Pa.), Princeton
Keelin Schlageter, Oak Knoll (N.J.), Notre Dame
Shannon Smith, Roland Park Country School (Md.), North Carolina
Kathryn Toohey, Garnet Valley (Pa.), Penn State
Devon Whitaker, Episcopal Academy (Pa.), Virginia
Aubrey Williams, Bishop Ireton (Va.), Virginia
Alanna Wray, Liberty (Md.), Loyola
Sophia Wrisk, Catonsville (Md.), Maryland

DEFENSE
Aine Maseker, Oak Knoll (N.J.), Notre Dame
Kennedy Williamson, Glenelg Country School (Md.), Maryland

GOALIE
Regan Alexander, Lake Highland Prep (Fla.), Ohio State
Chloe Provenzano, American Heritage-Delray (Fla.), Harvard

Congratulations to all! Good luck to all!

There is only one glaring mistake on that list . How can you have a kid who has no played a season since 9th grade on there especially considering it has to be based on high school career . Also goes to show that the whole thing is political , really diminishes the accolade for the other kids on the list that are very deserving .

I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is only one glaring mistake on that list . How can you have a kid who has no played a season since 9th grade on there especially considering it has to be based on high school career . Also goes to show that the whole thing is political , really diminishes the accolade for the other kids on the list that are very deserving .

Exactly! Ridiculous! How does somebody who has no accolades and hasn't played in years get on this type of list?? Politics just not right, casts a shadow on the entire organization

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

Looks like the coaches took the 23 best players. Looks like yours is the only complaint !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]There is only one glaring mistake on that list . How can you have a kid who has no played a season since 9th grade on there especially considering it has to be based on high school career . Also goes to show that the whole thing is political , really diminishes the accolade for the other kids on the list that are very deserving .

Exactly! Ridiculous! How does somebody who has no accolades and hasn't played in years get on this type of list?? Politics just not right, casts a shadow on the entire organization[/quote

politics time for change...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

CR has what is arguably the number one team in the country with 24 D1 commitments. Do you think maybe her players just deserved to make the team because they had the best tryouts.

No, she would evaluate the school, coaches and recruiting classes ahead of her to see how many girls at that school already play her position And the make up of the team.

Corrigan has already reached out to multiple club directors to apologize for the results of the command try out. There were more YJ 24’s and Jesters that made the call back list then any other 23 club on the island and he knows he has major issues. Having an 18 yr old evaluator didn’t help either.

He is also aware of what went on with the highlight division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

YJ gets 15 players on the command team but can’t beat a team on the island. Way to ruin another lacrosse event CR.

YJ and Jesters get 20 players of the 23 players on the Command team. Nothing to see here. Totally rigged from the start. Both teams are average at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

When the evaluators have a disproportionate number of girls from their organization make the cut, there is a problem. In other age groups, I would tend to agree with you that YJ has more talent. Not for 2023. The YJ 2023 team is no better than Jesters, Legacy or TG. You would think that all of those teams should be equally represented. As for 2024...give me a break! Maybe 1-2 girls would be on par with the better 2023s. It's a shame that the evaluators don't give these girls a fair shot. Disgusting actually!

What a disgusting display of a tryout!! If the results don’t show you anything then your head is in your butt! To have 20 of the 23 girls be from YJ and Jesters is a shame to say the least! Last year there was a very diverse group of girls and there were only 2 or 3 of these girls from YJ so that is a lie. The credibility of UA is going downhill from here! So disappointing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

When the evaluators have a disproportionate number of girls from their organization make the cut, there is a problem. In other age groups, I would tend to agree with you that YJ has more talent. Not for 2023. The YJ 2023 team is no better than Jesters, Legacy or TG. You would think that all of those teams should be equally represented. As for 2024...give me a break! Maybe 1-2 girls would be on par with the better 2023s. It's a shame that the evaluators don't give these girls a fair shot. Disgusting actually!

Breakdown of the Corrigan team

1 YJ 24
1 TG Black
1 Legacy
1 Steps
2 YJ Gold
5 Jesters
12 YJ Blue

Thorn did a great job of evaluating only taking 15 YJ in total.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

When the evaluators have a disproportionate number of girls from their organization make the cut, there is a problem. In other age groups, I would tend to agree with you that YJ has more talent. Not for 2023. The YJ 2023 team is no better than Jesters, Legacy or TG. You would think that all of those teams should be equally represented. As for 2024...give me a break! Maybe 1-2 girls would be on par with the better 2023s. It's a shame that the evaluators don't give these girls a fair shot. Disgusting actually!

LOL, the only evaluators for the 23/24 age group were Jesters and YJ. Website promoted unbiased evaluations. You should all demand a refund since what was promoted wasn’t what was provided.

[quote=Anonymous]YJ gets 15 players on the command team but can’t beat a team on the island. Way to ruin another lacrosse event CR.

If you are going to cast blame it should be directed at Thorn. Her entire 23 team made the call back game and then took 15 YJ players. The Jesters coach was there just to ensure his players made the team. Some obviously deserved to be there. Thorn turned this into a joke and if I were Corrigan I would be upset knowing all the future business she cost me. If your not on YJ no need to apply.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]YJ gets 15 players on the command team but can’t beat a team on the island. Way to ruin another lacrosse event CR.

If you are going to cast blame it should be directed at Thorn. Her entire 23 team made the call back game and then took 15 YJ players. The Jesters coach was there just to ensure his players made the team. Some obviously deserved to be there. Thorn turned this into a joke and if I were Corrigan I would be upset knowing all the future business she cost me. If your not on YJ no need to apply.

What a disgrace! Hope they get their buts handed to them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

Sooo... we all go in knowing a small cabal of coaches will pick their team. At some point there has to be pushback. The highlight team has 9 2022’s on it. I’m sorry that is not legit. We know the contracts are in for YJ players and their inflated players bio’s. There is no way that there should be 9 2022’s on the highlight team especially when 2021 players are more deserving. It is a disservice to the LI team and to a number of 2021 girls as this is their last chance to tryout. On LI there is NO need to take these 2022’s.

first off there will always be people pissed when 160 kids tryout for a 23 girl roster. Is there too many YJ girls,maybe but let's break it down. 4 of the 12 that made it from Thorn were originally Igloo girls.
2nd, 4 of the 12 made the team last year. Looking at the roster they got the top 12-15 girls in the grade on the team. The last 8-10 spots could have gone to other girls, but who is the blame then??? The directors/coaches at Top Guns who were nowhere to be found in NJ.....Shame on them for not being their to support and represent their girls. Everyone can complain about some of the girls who got shafted and they may have a gripe, but this team will still go and dominated Upstate and New England and go on to the final 4. Let's go Long Island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

Players awards.... are you serious. Read the inflated bio’s. BOTC awards. FLG awards. Some bogus IL award who call CR. Stop the BS. There are many 2021’s who don’t parade their phony awards around. It appears that CR and the other “evaluators” are using this Corrigan team to showcase 2022’s and take the opportunity away from the 2021’s. Shameful. Hopefully karma is the bitpoop we say it is.

[quote=Anonymous]first off there will always be people pissed when 160 kids tryout for a 23 girl roster. Is there too many YJ girls,maybe but let's break it down. 4 of the 12 that made it from Thorn were originally Igloo girls.
2nd, 4 of the 12 made the team last year. Looking at the roster they got the top 12-15 girls in the grade on the team. The last 8-10 spots could have gone to other girls, but who is the blame then??? The directors/coaches at Top Guns who were nowhere to be found in NJ.....Shame on them for not being their to support and represent their girls. Everyone can complain about some of the girls who got shafted and they may have a gripe, but this team will still go and dominated Upstate and New England and go on to the final 4. Let's go Long Island

Here is an easier breakdown YJ 15 girls, Jesters 5 girls all other clubs on Long Island 3 girls.

Highlight evaluators were ,from what we saw ,YJ coaches only. Not impartial not fair. The girls on the roster are all excellent but there were other excellent girls at the tryout who should have been given a fair chance.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

When the evaluators have a disproportionate number of girls from their organization make the cut, there is a problem. In other age groups, I would tend to agree with you that YJ has more talent. Not for 2023. The YJ 2023 team is no better than Jesters, Legacy or TG. You would think that all of those teams should be equally represented. As for 2024...give me a break! Maybe 1-2 girls would be on par with the better 2023s. It's a shame that the evaluators don't give these girls a fair shot. Disgusting actually!

LOL, the only evaluators for the 23/24 age group were Jesters and YJ. Website promoted unbiased evaluations. You should all demand a refund since what was promoted wasn’t what was provided.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]first off there will always be people pissed when 160 kids tryout for a 23 girl roster. Is there too many YJ girls,maybe but let's break it down. 4 of the 12 that made it from Thorn were originally Igloo girls.
2nd, 4 of the 12 made the team last year. Looking at the roster they got the top 12-15 girls in the grade on the team. The last 8-10 spots could have gone to other girls, but who is the blame then??? The directors/coaches at Top Guns who were nowhere to be found in NJ.....Shame on them for not being their to support and represent their girls. Everyone can complain about some of the girls who got shafted and they may have a gripe, but this team will still go and dominated Upstate and New England and go on to the final 4. Let's go Long Island

Here is an easier breakdown YJ 15 girls, Jesters 5 girls all other clubs on Long Island 3 girls.

That was funny when a couple YJ attackers were put through without scoring a goal. Good times! I guess the takeaway is that if you want to make the team, make sure your coach is an evaluator! No way Jesters have 5 worthy. Maybe 2. Gotta feel a little bad for the YJs that were cut. How embarrassing is that!

So now you are trolling 15 yr old girls who Didn’t make the team! As an adult, how Embarrassing is That ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now you are trolling 15 yr old girls who Didn’t make the team! As an adult, how Embarrassing is That ?

Not as embarrassing as the YJ and Jesters coaches blatantly putting their own girls on a team that clearly don't belong. Girls that have been invisible on the field since 3rd grade. Now that's embarrassing, and They should be ashamed. The whole process stinks like rotten fish. Corrigan can do better to hold a fair and unbiased tryout. As for the YJs who didn't make it? Need to stink up a little more next time, probably didn't give a big enough end of season gift to coach!

You are delusional and know nothing about sports or athletes. Why do so many YJ girls go on to college to be less than average at best? When YJ B girls and 24’s are making it over other 23 A’s it’s based on the rigging of the event not talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are delusional and know nothing about sports or athletes. Why do so many YJ girls go on to college to be less than average at best? When YJ B girls and 24’s are making it over other 23 A’s it’s based on the rigging of the event not talent.

Wow! Talk about delusional! What an ignorant post knowing what we know about who picks girls. 5 of the girls picked are legit...the rest...not so much and interchangeable. Unfortunately they weren't interchanged because of bias. Very sad for the sport.

Yeah seriously 9 22s making 21/22 team is wrong. Ton of 21 girls alot better then those players. But then again let's see how good they do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are delusional and know nothing about sports or athletes. Why do so many YJ girls go on to college to be less than average at best? When YJ B girls and 24’s are making it over other 23 A’s it’s based on the rigging of the event not talent.

Same goes for 9 2022’s on the highlight team. No way should deserving 2021’s be left off the highlight team. The selection process has become a farce.

[quote=Anonymous]You are delusional and know nothing about sports or athletes. Why do so many YJ girls go on to college to be less than average at best? When YJ B girls and 24’s are making it over other 23 A’s it’s based on the rigging of the event not talent.

Is Coach Thorn a hypocrite? She lowers a girl to the B team and then puts on Corrigan as a top player in the age group. Talk about mixed messages.

Completely ignorant statement, obviously your daughter didn’t make and this is what you resort to.
Shame on you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are delusional and know nothing about sports or athletes. Why do so many YJ girls go on to college to be less than average at best? When YJ B girls and 24’s are making it over other 23 A’s it’s based on the rigging of the event not talent.

Same goes for 9 2022’s on the highlight team. No way should deserving 2021’s be left off the highlight team. The selection process has become a farce.

I believe the idea of with the 2 team system is to have some mixture of grades on both the command and highlight teams, I knew going in to expect at least 6 spots for the younger age group on either team it’s always that way. Is 9 too many on the highlight team.. I guess we will see how they make out.
if you don’t combine ages then you’d need to have a team for each grade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are delusional and know nothing about sports or athletes. Why do so many YJ girls go on to college to be less than average at best? When YJ B girls and 24’s are making it over other 23 A’s it’s based on the rigging of the event not talent.

Same goes for 9 2022’s on the highlight team. No way should deserving 2021’s be left off the highlight team. The selection process has become a farce.

I believe the idea of with the 2 team system is to have some mixture of grades on both the command and highlight teams, I knew going in to expect at least 6 spots for the younger age group on either team it’s always that way. Is 9 too many on the highlight team.. I guess we will see how they make out.
if you don’t combine ages then you’d need to have a team for each grade

I said several times on other threads, YJ will make up most of the team. I appreciate everyone wanting to believe it's fair, but it is not. Stop complaining, it won't change, just accept it for what it is. My daughter a 2020, stopped going to the tryout after her first year. It was so obviously rigged! This is not to say my daughter should have made it, but not even having a fair chance made us not return. We know many who did the same.

No YJ attacker was put thru w/out scoring a goal??? I watched one score at least 3 goals in game 1. Let me guess you watched all the games and have an official box score for the games?? Keep trolling 15 year olds.....I highly doubt any of the 3 YJ attackers went scoreless. 2 of these 3 made it last year in fact

It’s virtually impossible to fairly evaluate 100+ girls over the course of a few hours. With all the ball hogs and Nobody passing your lucky to get a few touches in a scrimmage. And if you get stuck on a team with less talented girls it’s over before it starts..
The evaluators know the girls, and choose most of them based on reputation.
The only real recourse is to have a somewhat equal representation of clubs as evaluators, so that they can all haggle it out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

There will always be sour grapes. Some people will never get it, when their daughter is not selected or recognized they will cry foul and complain that it is all political. The only "List" that really matters is the "Coaches List". It all shakes out during the recruiting process. If your daughter is a top tier player she will receive offers from top tier college programs. Coaches know who they want and they do not wait to let the players and parents know. If a coach is talking to you / your daughter but they are not offering a spot it s because they have other players ranked higher. There are probably between 20 - 30 legit top tier players on The Island in a given graduation year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players![/quo

There will always be sour grapes. Some people will never get it, when their daughter is not selected or recognized they will cry foul and complain that it is all political. The only "List" that really matters is the "Coaches List". It all shakes out during the recruiting process. If your daughter is a top tier player she will receive offers from top tier college programs. Coaches know who they want and they do not wait to let the players and parents know. If a coach is talking to you / your daughter but they are not offering a spot it s because they have other players ranked higher. There are probably between 20 - 30 legit top tier players on The Island in a given graduation year.

The way tryouts were conducted is disappointing. It did seem as if the team was predetermined. Your only way to show your dissatisfied is to not sign up again as I'm sure many people are going to do. Corrigan did a poor job and I'm sure he won't have the same number of people next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

There will always be sour grapes. Some people will never get it, when their daughter is not selected or recognized they will cry foul and complain that it is all political. The only "List" that really matters is the "Coaches List". It all shakes out during the recruiting process. If your daughter is a top tier player she will receive offers from top tier college programs. Coaches know who they want and they do not wait to let the players and parents know. If a coach is talking to you / your daughter but they are not offering a spot it s because they have other players ranked higher. There are probably between 20 - 30 legit top tier players on The Island in a given graduation year.

i agree there will always be sour grapes but that was really ridiculous. having your dad there to push you and your friends through ? seriously ? Or taking 15 of your own players? completely unbelievable.... I would never take that UA thing serious again. they should have had independent evaluators thats realistic. some of those girls would be on that list either way. they are that good but they just blew it with this nonsense this year. shame on them

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm shocked not to see complaints about the UA team. Looks like CR kept half her team

If you haven't figured it out this a YJ program. If you are not on YJ you are making a donation. If Corrigan wanted the best players he would have independent evaluators.

Two years ago the exact group of girls tried out for spots on the Under Armour Command team. It was for the BBP/Legacy and Mattituck Under Armor coaches and there were also TG evaluators. There was no Carol Rose, yet pretty much the same YJ players were chosen again. By luck? by chance? You can rule out politics as it was a completely different selection committee. Then from what club exactly would you expect the most players to come from? For most age groups there is no doubt the larger number of players have to come from YJ. Everyone always wants to cry foul on every Select team roster selection, whether it is UA, USA, schoolgirls, and every award from the IL lists, All American, County awards...... They want to cry foul when kids get recruited over their own, etc, etc....The same girls who make this UA team are the same ones recognized for all these other other teams, honors, lists. Do you really think CR controls every aspect of everything ever lacrosse related? And if she does, then you are playing for the wrong club. But the correct answer is, the girls are very good and very deserving. Congrats to everyone who made the team, including the non-YJ players!

There will always be sour grapes. Some people will never get it, when their daughter is not selected or recognized they will cry foul and complain that it is all political. The only "List" that really matters is the "Coaches List". It all shakes out during the recruiting process. If your daughter is a top tier player she will receive offers from top tier college programs. Coaches know who they want and they do not wait to let the players and parents know. If a coach is talking to you / your daughter but they are not offering a spot it s because they have other players ranked higher. There are probably between 20 - 30 legit top tier players on The Island in a given graduation year.

i agree there will always be sour grapes but that was really ridiculous. having your dad there to push you and your friends through ? seriously ? Or taking 15 of your own players? completely unbelievable.... I would never take that UA thing serious again. they should have had independent evaluators thats realistic. some of those girls would be on that list either way. they are that good but they just blew it with this nonsense this year. shame on them

wait they didn't have outside evaluators? so the coaches picked the team? of course they picked their own players!!!! Next time before you sign up check and see whose evaluating and you'll know who makes the team thats funny..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

My God, is it really all that important to your ego? You now want some sports management major making $7 an hour to check the facts on every player? Get a life dude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

My God, is it really all that important to your ego? You now want some sports management major making $7 an hour to check the facts on every player? Get a life dude.

Not at all. Just wish there were better quality people out there. Oh well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

My God, is it really all that important to your ego? You now want some sports management major making $7 an hour to check the facts on every player? Get a life dude.[/quot

Noooo. How about not inflating your bio. As far as ego.....look at yourself and the parents of the players who submitted the overhyped nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

My God, is it really all that important to your ego? You now want some sports management major making $7 an hour to check the facts on every player? Get a life dude.[/quot

Noooo. How about not inflating your bio. As far as ego.....look at yourself and the parents of the players who submitted the overhyped nonsense.

Allegedly one girl put some exaggerated claim from another sport and you people are ready to throw all the accomplishments of all the players under the bus? I can't vouch for everyone, but I just read several of the bios from the players that I know personally, and they are dead on accurate. Many of these players are extremely accomplished, and all you bellyachers are just flat out sad. I have been at this UA and select teams and awards from before BOTC started ten years ago, one thing never fails, exactly what you see here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

The post that you are responding to did not mention “Inflated” . It stated that information may be incorrect or inaccurate and that mistakes are made. The post also indicated that many times accolades are left out and that mistakes are made (by the person who writes the bio). At the college level, it is not the “responsibility” of the student athlete or the parent to enter / manage content on the team’s website. Any to your point there are a lot of people who take responsibility.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Ha. Your an stunad. Congrats on your connection with YJ. It’s not an excuse that 9 2022’s were picked. I’m sure one of those who inflate their kids bio with some nonsense FLG top player garbage. As stated earlier, in the end the Corrigan team is meaningless. what happens next year in HS and then college matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Ha. Your an stunad. Congrats on your connection with YJ. It’s not an excuse that 9 2022’s were picked. I’m sure one of those who inflate their kids bio with some nonsense FLG top player garbage. As stated earlier, in the end the Corrigan team is meaningless. what happens next year in HS and then college matters.

Actually UA is about as far from meaningless as could be. The sad part is the HS team is completely meaningless. The entire recruiting process goes through travel teams and select teams, period. If you have not figured that out yet, it will be a rude awakening come Sept 1st.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Ha. Your an stunad. Congrats on your connection with YJ. It’s not an excuse that 9 2022’s were picked. I’m sure one of those who inflate their kids bio with some nonsense FLG top player garbage. As stated earlier, in the end the Corrigan team is meaningless. what happens next year in HS and then college matters.

Actually UA is about as far from meaningless as could be. The sad part is the HS team is completely meaningless. The entire recruiting process goes through travel teams and select teams, period. If you have not figured that out yet, it will be a rude awakening come Sept 1st.

Yes, it's a big deal that your kid has been a varsity starter since birth on a no name school!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Ha. Your an stunad. Congrats on your connection with YJ. It’s not an excuse that 9 2022’s were picked. I’m sure one of those who inflate their kids bio with some nonsense FLG top player garbage. As stated earlier, in the end the Corrigan team is meaningless. what happens next year in HS and then college matters.

Actually UA is about as far from meaningless as could be. The sad part is the HS team is completely meaningless. The entire recruiting process goes through travel teams and select teams, period. If you have not figured that out yet, it will be a rude awakening come Sept 1st.

Wake up. We are talking 2021’s who are mostly committed. Corrigan this year is a meaningless bio filler. Since the 2021’s are now seniors their Sr HS lax season is meaningful. Does that spell it out for you to understand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish they would check out the validity of the other sports accolades in the bio's. Sad how a kid outright lied especially in a sport that is simple to verify.

I can tell you from first hand experience that many times if there is incorrect info in a players Bio it is not always due to the player. Even at the college level at Top 20 programs the information is inaccurate. My older daughter's info is not all accurate and it's not due to her providing false or inaccurate info. It is due to someone in the schools athletic / sports information department making mistakes. Every player on every team at the university fills out a questionnaire and then somebody in the athletic department writes the Bio.... many mistakes are made. Not a lot of proof reading or double checking... the athletes don't see it until it is up on the website. Many times accolades are left out, mistakes are made.

Seriously. Does anyone take responsibility for their actions. It’s somebody else’s fault. Unbelievable. The bios are inflated by the players/parents. I guess it’s not the YJ coaches fault for taking their players over more deserving players. Always an excuse never responsibility.

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Ha. Your an stunad. Congrats on your connection with YJ. It’s not an excuse that 9 2022’s were picked. I’m sure one of those who inflate their kids bio with some nonsense FLG top player garbage. As stated earlier, in the end the Corrigan team is meaningless. what happens next year in HS and then college matters.

Actually UA is about as far from meaningless as could be. The sad part is the HS team is completely meaningless. The entire recruiting process goes through travel teams and select teams, period. If you have not figured that out yet, it will be a rude awakening come Sept 1st.

HS is far from meaningless, the best girls play travel, but HS accolades are still very important.

“Ha. Your an stunad. Congrats on your connection with YJ. It’s not an excuse that 9 2022’s were picked. I’m sure one of those who inflate their kids bio with some nonsense FLG top player garbage. As stated earlier, in the end the Corrigan team is meaningless. what happens next year in HS and then college matters.”

You are obviously new to competitive sports and it’s even more sad that your 2021 got beat out by a 2022 player and you somehow blame an inflated bio and politics , if your kid was that good they would have picked her . What happens in high school season will have little impact but I can tell you the UA team is the best indicator of how your kid will do in college and obviously not looking good for your kid .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“Ha. Your an stunad. Congrats on your connection with YJ. It’s not an excuse that 9 2022’s were picked. I’m sure one of those who inflate their kids bio with some nonsense FLG top player garbage. As stated earlier, in the end the Corrigan team is meaningless. what happens next year in HS and then college matters.”

You are obviously new to competitive sports and it’s even more sad that your 2021 got beat out by a 2022 player and you somehow blame an inflated bio and politics , if your kid was that good they would have picked her . What happens in high school season will have little impact but I can tell you the UA team is the best indicator of how your kid will do in college and obviously not looking good for your kid .

Ha. Ok. Im sure your the lax know it all. No use discussing with a someone who has all the answers

Yes, it's a big deal that your kid has been a varsity starter since birth on a no name school![/quote]

Oddly you are 100%, unwittingly, supporting exactly what I am saying. The HS team is completely meaningless! Starter on whatever team, since whenever, only means something maybe at Garden City. But a top club/ top team player who makes all the select team nominations, all the County lists and all the awards, all the other odd lists etc... Now you got something. I will state it again, HS team is completely meaningless, no name school or not, starter for whatever grade, they need to make their mark elsewhere! Often the two go hand in hand, many of those impact players have that same effect across the board- travel. school, select teams, lists etc... I have to say of all the sports, this has to be the one that spawns the most jealousy and parent animonsity of them all. I will also say that the sport has served my kids extremely well, we have gotten a lot more out of it, than what we invested into it. But also sad to say, I can't stand most of the people involved in this, so many haters, so many jealous people. Maybe it is just the nature of people spilling their guts on the internet, but I just do not like the most of you, at least all the complainers, especially after a try-out that does not go your way!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it's a big deal that your kid has been a varsity starter since birth on a no name school!

Oddly you are 100%, unwittingly, supporting exactly what I am saying. The HS team is completely meaningless! Starter on whatever team, since whenever, only means something maybe at Garden City. But a top club/ top team player who makes all the select team nominations, all the County lists and all the awards, all the other odd lists etc... Now you got something. I will state it again, HS team is completely meaningless, no name school or not, starter for whatever grade, they need to make their mark elsewhere! Often the two go hand in hand, many of those impact players have that same effect across the board- travel. school, select teams, lists etc... I have to say of all the sports, this has to be the one that spawns the most jealousy and parent animonsity of them all. I will also say that the sport has served my kids extremely well, we have gotten a lot more out of it, than what we invested into it. But also sad to say, I can't stand most of the people involved in this, so many haters, so many jealous people. Maybe it is just the nature of people spilling their guts on the internet, but I just do not like the most of you, at least all the complainers, especially after a try-out that does not go your way![/quote]

The feeling is mutual.

Only Garden City, you can’t be serious. I have to say you and your kid are in for a rude awakening in college.

Sounds like the Covid did not slow down the recruiting for Sept 1st. Heard many girls had a lot of contact and interest from the coaches at the top schools. Such a great time for these kids, enjoy the ride!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ and Jesters get 20 players of the 23 players on the Command team. Nothing to see here. Totally rigged from the start. Both teams are average at best.

Was surprised to see only one girl from TG for sure, but what other team were they overlooking. Seems they picked the best girls from the best teams. YJ has a new combined team with a lot of talent. Jesters has a lot of talent as well. TG seems to be the club whos kids got overlooked. Maybe it just was that these were the best kids of the day?

Possibly the best TG became a Jester. Another of the best TG players is out injured. One other made it. That accounts for 3 of previous TG teams best 5 players. Perhaps the other 2 didn’t go, got overlooked, didn’t show enough at the tryout or got shafted, perhaps not. Really not many TG even there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it's a big deal that your kid has been a varsity starter since birth on a no name school!

Oddly you are 100%, unwittingly, supporting exactly what I am saying. The HS team is completely meaningless! Starter on whatever team, since whenever, only means something maybe at Garden City. But a top club/ top team player who makes all the select team nominations, all the County lists and all the awards, all the other odd lists etc... Now you got something. I will state it again, HS team is completely meaningless, no name school or not, starter for whatever grade, they need to make their mark elsewhere! Often the two go hand in hand, many of those impact players have that same effect across the board- travel. school, select teams, lists etc... I have to say of all the sports, this has to be the one that spawns the most jealousy and parent animonsity of them all. I will also say that the sport has served my kids extremely well, we have gotten a lot more out of it, than what we invested into it. But also sad to say, I can't stand most of the people involved in this, so many haters, so many jealous people. Maybe it is just the nature of people spilling their guts on the internet, but I just do not like the most of you, at least all the complainers, especially after a try-out that does not go your way![/quote]

Well said.

[quote=Anonymous]Possibly the best TG became a Jester. Another of the best TG players is out injured. One other made it. That accounts for 3 of previous TG teams best 5 players. Perhaps the other 2 didn’t go, got overlooked, didn’t show enough at the tryout or got shafted, perhaps not. Really not many TG even there.

Maybe not the best TG girl left but she is definitely now the best Jesters girl.

September 1 has come and gone, the college coaches have started to reach out and the process has begun. This process will tell you just where your daughter stands in relation to her peers.

Maybe was not the top scorer for TG. But hands down best all around player on that team. I am a TG parent and she will be missed.

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.[/quote]

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue[/quote]

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.[/quote]

They took legacy’s top player, pretty sure they took her last year as well. Maybe shes the only one who fit what they were looking for at the time. They chose the best of what was there that day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

Yes, process stinks, and needs to be re-evaluated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

We didn't bother going to UA because we felt this year is just a $$$ scam. I'm sure plenty of people felt that way and this year UA is mostly meaningless. Not putting down the girls who made it, congrats to them. All I'm saying is there wasn't a full representation of LI talent at the tryouts and next year will be different (except the politics, that will remain).

160 girls at the tryouts. what’s a full representation???
politics never cease to amaze me but i heard of most of the girls who made it. Sure a few snubs but mostly got the top 10 kids in 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

Only one girl from Legacy made it because shes the only stand out. Its always been that way

Agreed. Goalie real good but not there. Others just outside the cusp. As a team they are better. YJ individuals much better but team has not played to expectations. They got the right girls for this event of top players who were there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

Only one girl from Legacy made it because shes the only stand out. Its always been that way

Impressive that Legacy with 1 stand out was able to beat the Jesters by 3 goals. Jesters have 5 UA stand outs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

Only one girl from Legacy made it because shes the only stand out. Its always been that way

Impressive that Legacy with 1 stand out was able to beat the Jesters by 3 goals. Jesters have 5 UA stand outs.

5 UA standouts according to their coach who did evaluation. Joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

Only one girl from Legacy made it because shes the only stand out. Its always been that way

That Legacy player is "legit"!. I saw her take a stick to the head (Dirty play off ball) from a Jesters player behind the officials back. I heard the crack of the stick from the sideline. She got up, no coach or trainer attended, brushed herself off and continued to dominate that game in all fashions. She is much deserved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe take responsibility for your kid not making the team because she has been outworked by the other kids who have dads who dont make excuses such as coaches taking their players and tell their kids to work harder.

Outworked? Nope. If you play for certain teams you have an advantage. That’s how it is here. It’s not the girls issue it’s the adults they need follow the rules and let the impartial chips fall where they may if it was done that way I doubt most people would have an issue

Agreed, Legacy just came off of a win over Jesters. Only one Legacy girl taken and there were five Jester players that made the team. What a joke this tryout was.

If you want a fair and impartial tryout you cannot have club coaches as evaluators. YJ and Jesters coaches were evaluating players and the results speak for themselves.
YJ - 15 players selected, Jesters 5 players. Legacy just beat Jesters and only have one girl make it. Corrigan has lost any credibility they may have had.

100% true in all reality many of those girls would have made it either way... but for the girls sake make it impartial. Corrigan took the glory out of it for those poor girls its a sham....you can't have your dad or your own coach be the evaluator no matter how good you are it will always look bad.

Dude, you’re beating a dead horse.. the results are in, corrigan doesn’t care, he gets to call this group “LI All Americans” they get to play in the regional event and probably the finals. They get to put Command Team player on their resume, the finals will be shown live online and college coaches will watch. There is always next year.

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

[quote=Anonymous]So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

When the Jesters Dad coach and Thorn picked the team and they selected 20 of their own players it was definitely given and not earned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

because it was a joke....seriously. the dad coach was the best ... i do feel bad for those girls that made it legitimately since it was such a sham there are
other legit ways to earn accolades not like a fixed tryout

I’m sorry your daughter didn’t make it, maybe a little hard work and next year you can be on here with the same tired excuses lmao!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m sorry your daughter didn’t make it, maybe a little hard work and next year you can be on here with the same tired excuses lmao!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Lol keep telling yourself your daughter made it due to her hard work and not because it was a completely biased tryout run by a Dad coach and Thorn. It taints making the team for the girls that truly deserved it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Most can’t because they live vicariously through their kids and are stunted emotionally.

Silver lining of not making the team is no travel to MD for the regional and Va Beach for the championship. Does not seem worth the trouble.
.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Same complaints every year... Some parents just can not take it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. They are delusional and they become jealous and bitter.

That can be true. But be honest yj and jesters do not have that many top girls - it’s so obvious. Admit it. My daughter did not try out and it’s common sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Same complaints every year... Some parents just can not take it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. They are delusional and they become jealous and bitter.

not really just calling a spade a spade wouldnt even make the trip to jersey because we knew it was a total joke!

It’s not feasible that 160 girls tryout and 20 girls made it from the same teams. It’s not about being jealous. There are many talented girls in 2023 group. Any of Them can make it on any given day. Everyone knows no way 20 girls from 2 organizations were the top. Everyone should be appalled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Silver lining of not making the team is no travel to MD for the regional and Va Beach for the championship. Does not seem worth the trouble.
.

it will be cancelled anyway. unfortunately sorry for these girls

Can anyone list the top li teams. Yj and jesters ranked #1 ?? yet select 20 of their girls. How can they have 20 of the best girls out of all those clubs and girls. Come on. Admit it was not fair!! All of our girls are worthy. . Maybe ua should just let a different clubs “A” team represent each year !! That would be fair. Oh but that would not make money!! My daughter is on the UA team and I can admit this was not fair.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m sorry your daughter didn’t make it, maybe a little hard work and next year you can be on here with the same tired excuses lmao!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Lol keep telling yourself your daughter made it due to her hard work and not because it was a completely biased tryout run by a Dad coach and Thorn. It taints making the team for the girls that truly deserved it.

Yes100%. A few of those girls (about 5) would have made the team regardless of who was evaluating. It’s the other 18 that bias was a factor. That’s a fact, and sadly it diminishes the accomplishment of making the team. There a few girls on that team that stink. I’ve seen them play for years, and they’ve never done much. They were a liability on the field against top competition. And now there on a UA team? Please! Guess what team the play for?

At least 6 top guns black team were there and overlooked. Outside selectors picking the teams only way to be fair. No credibility this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not feasible that 160 girls tryout and 20 girls made it from the same teams. It’s not about being jealous. There are many talented girls in 2023 group. Any of Them can make it on any given day. Everyone knows no way 20 girls from 2 organizations were the top. Everyone should be appalled.

totally appalling. but college coaches are totally aware of the manipulation... this year was an absolute joke and a half. thankfully people are on to it and will save their money next year the top lax programs already know the 5 girls they will fight over ...the rest will find their way. Always works out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m sorry your daughter didn’t make it, maybe a little hard work and next year you can be on here with the same tired excuses lmao!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Lol keep telling yourself your daughter made it due to her hard work and not because it was a completely biased tryout run by a Dad coach and Thorn. It taints making the team for the girls that truly deserved it.

Yes100%. A few of those girls (about 5) would have made the team regardless of who was evaluating. It’s the other 18 that bias was a factor. That’s a fact, and sadly it diminishes the accomplishment of making the team. There a few girls on that team that stink. I’ve seen them play for years, and they’ve never done much. They were a liability on the field against top competition. And now there on a UA team? Please! Guess what team the play for?

This ought to be good. Please explain your “liability” comment.

Does the screaming of the lambs keep you up at night? We all see how your daughter being a B+ player has tormented you for years. Crying foul all the time. Must be tiresome. Girls who made it will build their resume’s, no college coach will hear your view.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m sorry your daughter didn’t make it, maybe a little hard work and next year you can be on here with the same tired excuses lmao!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Earned it?? Haha haha. Tournament should have been canceled. UA is an embarrassment on so many levels this year

Lol keep telling yourself your daughter made it due to her hard work and not because it was a completely biased tryout run by a Dad coach and Thorn. It taints making the team for the girls that truly deserved it.

Yes100%. A few of those girls (about 5) would have made the team regardless of who was evaluating. It’s the other 18 that bias was a factor. That’s a fact, and sadly it diminishes the accomplishment of making the team. There a few girls on that team that stink. I’ve seen them play for years, and they’ve never done much. They were a liability on the field against top competition. And now there on a UA team? Please! Guess what team the play for?

This ought to be good. Please explain your “liability” comment.

That's the girl that blows the close game by:
1) Missing a pass
2) Passing to the wrong team
3) Shooting a horrible shot into the goalie's stick
We all know who they are and cringe when they get the ball, just pray that they are able to pass it off real quick before getting stripped!

You think this is new

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You think this is new

No, but several of these girls “made” the US team. What a joke!

What does your Daughter’s recruiting website have for “Lacrosse Accomplishments”?

It’s ok. Say it. Nothing!!

God the amount of complaining is ridiculous . Your kid didn’t make it because she didn’t impress the evaluators .
It’s just that simple. Everyone so bent over Jesters coach, that team is way better than anyone expected, and everyone sounds really bitter over it. The focus seems to be on Jesters having 5 players , YJ has 15 and everyone butthurt with Jesters coach ?! Lmao YJ has more than half the team and everyone else got scraps. Stop complaining. Anyone of these teams could beat each other on any given day. Move on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much jealousy!
Why can’t you just let the girl’s who made it have their day, they earned it.

Same complaints every year... Some parents just can not take it when other players are recognized ahead of their daughter. They are delusional and they become jealous and bitter.

not really just calling a spade a spade wouldnt even make the trip to jersey because we knew it was a total joke!

There are complaints every year and they are mostly from delusional parents. Over the years, the majority of the players who were selected to play for the LI Under Armour Team are the same players who go to the best college programs and have very good college careers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

God the amount of complaining is ridiculous . Your kid didn’t make it because she didn’t impress the evaluators .
It’s just that simple. Everyone so bent over Jesters coach, that team is way better than anyone expected, and everyone sounds really bitter over it. The focus seems to be on Jesters having 5 players , YJ has 15 and everyone butthurt with Jesters coach ?! Lmao YJ has more than half the team and everyone else got scraps. Stop complaining. Anyone of these teams could beat each other on any given day. Move on

Agree, the complaining is ridiculous. That said, it goes on every year. Back in 2016 CR was not involved and I do not recall YJ coaches being involved in the selection process. Back then there was only 1 team, they selected 24 players and the majority were YJ. There were 16 (2016's) 6 (2017's) and 2 (2018's) The same complaints all from the delusional parents. Just about all for those players did / are doing very well in college at many of the best programs. Of the 16 (2016's) I believe 11 or 12 are captains of their college teams. Every year there are a handful of players who are just as deserving but there just isn't room due to roster size. In most cases, the players selected are the same players who the best college programs recruit. Just look at any given year and see how many Long Island Players go on to play at the perennial Top 15 - 20 programs. Maybe 20 - 30 players from Long Island are offered spots at the Top 15 - 20 programs (and SBU skews those numbers.) The Top Programs consistently bring in the majority of the top players, that is why they are always on top. There are some parents who have a legitimate argument but most are not realistic about their daughters ability.

you guys must be new at this. first of all it is well known that alot of girls get on because of their reputation as players, not how they do that day. second, the top guns have done this in the past as well. with the 22 group. TG had to because their 21s so were weak. next..yes many YJ. how can they not? year after year, time shows they are the best on LI and maybe the best in the country. if you dont believe me then look at their 2019, 2020 team, 21 team and 22. never lost to a long island team and usually have the most depth. they win and everyone on the team plays equally. how many of you can say that about your team. NONE. That is why there are more YJs...THEY HAVE MORE GREAT PLAYERS PER AGE GROUP. as far as jesters go...they did a great job making a new team out of nowhere, adn are only going to get better with their new girl directors who are excellent coaches. stinks to stinks, especially when yo have been paying TG directors to get you on teh team and your plan did not work. oh well guest the merit system stinks. greasing teh wheel cant do it. what a shame..all those wall ball sessions at like $100 hr for nothing. and all the butt kissing for nothing. look at CR track record for recruiting. stop hating adn go try out for a real organization......suckers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you guys must be new at this. first of all it is well known that alot of girls get on because of their reputation as players, not how they do that day. second, the top guns have done this in the past as well. with the 22 group. TG had to because their 21s so were weak. next..yes many YJ. how can they not? year after year, time shows they are the best on LI and maybe the best in the country. if you dont believe me then look at their 2019, 2020 team, 21 team and 22. never lost to a long island team and usually have the most depth. they win and everyone on the team plays equally. how many of you can say that about your team. NONE. That is why there are more YJs...THEY HAVE MORE GREAT PLAYERS PER AGE GROUP. as far as jesters go...they did a great job making a new team out of nowhere, adn are only going to get better with their new girl directors who are excellent coaches. stinks to stinks, especially when yo have been paying TG directors to get you on teh team and your plan did not work. oh well guest the merit system stinks. greasing teh wheel cant do it. what a shame..all those wall ball sessions at like $100 hr for nothing. and all the butt kissing for nothing. look at CR track record for recruiting. stop hating adn go try out for a real organization......suckers

You obviously don't have a daughter in the age group, and are just trying to stir the pot. Let me educate you on a few things:
1. YJ Thorn has NEVER beaten TG 2023. So if YJ has SO MANY GREAT PLAYERS, then why are they not beating other teams with ease consistently?
2. YJ Thorn does not play girls equally. Infact, some barely see the field, but are happy to sit the bench, wear bee wear, and be cheerleaders.
3. YJ Thorn had to combine teams from two other organizations just to be competitive, but still lose to other LI teams such as Legacy.
4. Jesters are not a new team. They have been around for years, and have always been decent.
5. Many of the top TG girls did not even try out for UA this year because it was a waste of time and money. Should have been cancelled but turned into a money grab. Believe it or not, there is life outside of lacrosse. It's funny watch the lemmings so wound up about a useless tournament. You do know the real UA tournament was cancelled a long time ago due to a GLOBAL PANDEMIC!
No hating on CR, she does a good job with her organization, so do others. The good players will find the right home no matter the organization. We'll see if you're still chirping away next summer when it actually counts for these girls and the real UA is back. Until then you should pipe down because you really have no idea what you're talking about. There is a lot of talent in this age group, and YJ is just another team in the mix!

[quote=Anonymous]you guys must be new at this. first of all it is well known that alot of girls get on because of their reputation as players, not how they do that day. second, the top guns have done this in the past as well. with the 22 group. TG had to because their 21s so were weak. next..yes many YJ. how can they not? year after year, time shows they are the best on LI and maybe the best in the country. if you dont believe me then look at their 2019, 2020 team, 21 team and 22. never lost to a long island team and usually have the most depth. they win and everyone on the team plays equally. how many of you can say that about your team. NONE. That is why there are more YJs...THEY HAVE MORE GREAT PLAYERS PER AGE GROUP. as far as jesters go...they did a great job making a new team out of nowhere, adn are only going to get better with their new girl directors who are excellent coaches. stinks to stinks, especially when yo have been paying TG directors to get you on teh team and your plan did not work. oh well guest the merit system stinks. greasing teh wheel cant do it. what a shame..all those wall ball sessions at like $100 hr for nothing. and all the butt kissing for nothing. look at CR track record for recruiting. stop hating adn go try out for a real organization......suckers

Thorn is a good coach a state champ. The Jesters excellent coaches haven’t won anything with all their D1 commits. The Dad coach who was evaluating has zero credibility. Why do people refer to the Jesters as good they lost to Legacy played Phantistix and beat them by 3. Let’s wait before we say they are good. The TG girl that moved over is clearly their best player not sure she can do it by herself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you guys must be new at this. first of all it is well known that alot of girls get on because of their reputation as players, not how they do that day. second, the top guns have done this in the past as well. with the 22 group. TG had to because their 21s so were weak. next..yes many YJ. how can they not? year after year, time shows they are the best on LI and maybe the best in the country. if you dont believe me then look at their 2019, 2020 team, 21 team and 22. never lost to a long island team and usually have the most depth. they win and everyone on the team plays equally. how many of you can say that about your team. NONE. That is why there are more YJs...THEY HAVE MORE GREAT PLAYERS PER AGE GROUP. as far as jesters go...they did a great job making a new team out of nowhere, adn are only going to get better with their new girl directors who are excellent coaches. stinks to stinks, especially when yo have been paying TG directors to get you on teh team and your plan did not work. oh well guest the merit system stinks. greasing teh wheel cant do it. what a shame..all those wall ball sessions at like $100 hr for nothing. and all the butt kissing for nothing. look at CR track record for recruiting. stop hating adn go try out for a real organization......suckers

Congrats. You paid the YJ vig and got some ROI by making a team your kid couldn’t make without the biased tryout. Now she can fluff up the player bio. But..... karma sux and she will watch other more deserving players play at the next level. So who is the sucker now???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]you guys must be new at this. first of all it is well known that alot of girls get on because of their reputation as players, not how they do that day. second, the top guns have done this in the past as well. with the 22 group. TG had to because their 21s so were weak. next..yes many YJ. how can they not? year after year, time shows they are the best on LI and maybe the best in the country. if you dont believe me then look at their 2019, 2020 team, 21 team and 22. never lost to a long island team and usually have the most depth. they win and everyone on the team plays equally. how many of you can say that about your team. NONE. That is why there are more YJs...THEY HAVE MORE GREAT PLAYERS PER AGE GROUP. as far as jesters go...they did a great job making a new team out of nowhere, adn are only going to get better with their new girl directors who are excellent coaches. stinks to stinks, especially when yo have been paying TG directors to get you on teh team and your plan did not work. oh well guest the merit system stinks. greasing teh wheel cant do it. what a shame..all those wall ball sessions at like $100 hr for nothing. and all the butt kissing for nothing. look at CR track record for recruiting. stop hating adn go try out for a real organization......suckers

Thorn is a good coach a state champ. The Jesters excellent coaches haven’t won anything with all their D1 commits. The Dad coach who was evaluating has zero credibility. Why do people refer to the Jesters as good they lost to Legacy played Phantistix and beat them by 3. Let’s wait before we say they are good. The TG girl that moved over is clearly their best player not sure she can do it by herself.

Haha! Clearly? Clearly you haven’t watched this team. Let’s not count our chickens before they hatch.TG will come out strung next season with an already solid team, and 3 studs coming back from injury. Sad to see LD go, but without her teammates she will not be the same. Good player, but nothing better than many others. Replaceable for sure

Sounds like a response from a bitter 23 TG coach AS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

God the amount of complaining is ridiculous . Your kid didn’t make it because she didn’t impress the evaluators .
It’s just that simple. Everyone so bent over Jesters coach, that team is way better than anyone expected, and everyone sounds really bitter over it. The focus seems to be on Jesters having 5 players , YJ has 15 and everyone butthurt with Jesters coach ?! Lmao YJ has more than half the team and everyone else got scraps. Stop complaining. Anyone of these teams could beat each other on any given day. Move on

Agree, the complaining is ridiculous. That said, it goes on every year. Back in 2016 CR was not involved and I do not recall YJ coaches being involved in the selection process. Back then there was only 1 team, they selected 24 players and the majority were YJ. There were 16 (2016's) 6 (2017's) and 2 (2018's) The same complaints all from the delusional parents. Just about all for those players did / are doing very well in college at many of the best programs. Of the 16 (2016's) I believe 11 or 12 are captains of their college teams. Every year there are a handful of players who are just as deserving but there just isn't room due to roster size. In most cases, the players selected are the same players who the best college programs recruit. Just look at any given year and see how many Long Island Players go on to play at the perennial Top 15 - 20 programs. Maybe 20 - 30 players from Long Island are offered spots at the Top 15 - 20 programs (and SBU skews those numbers.) The Top Programs consistently bring in the majority of the top players, that is why they are always on top. There are some parents who have a legitimate argument but most are not realistic about their daughters ability.

Complaining is ridiculous? Not saying yes, not saying no, but in looking over these posts, there seems to be some real questions/observations. Reputations, suckers, CR past history, biased selections, etc. Jesters coach is the coach? 2 Jesters evaluators and 1 YJ? Or vice versa? 14 YJ make and 5 Jesters make out of a roster of 23? 2 goalies so only 2 other field positions? YJ for the past few years in the 23 class has been good, not great. They would be in B+ brackets in tournaments and not win much or at all in these tournaments. Then they had the merge. Not much changed. Did they plateau? Maybe, happens all the time - players are good early and when everyone else starts to grow, and get better, stronger faster, the talent gap closes quickly. Probably a combination of both? No club is immune to it. No one is questioning CR getting players to great schools, and banking on it going forward, can't blame anyone for thinking that way, but the 23's are not the same collection of talent of her A teams of the past. The merged team last summer, if the talent I keep hearing is loaded, stacked, etc, then why did they not roll through everyone last summer (and lose to Jesters this summer) is a fair question? With the exception of maybe a few, it is pretty hard to say anyone had a chance to create a reputation to make UA on reputation alone. When you factor everything in, 19 out of the 21 field positions went to players who the evaluators coach, or are club affiliated with, is almost a statistical impossibility. It seems a bit disingenuous to level labels of whiners, etc when taking all into consideration.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

God the amount of complaining is ridiculous . Your kid didn’t make it because she didn’t impress the evaluators .
It’s just that simple. Everyone so bent over Jesters coach, that team is way better than anyone expected, and everyone sounds really bitter over it. The focus seems to be on Jesters having 5 players , YJ has 15 and everyone butthurt with Jesters coach ?! Lmao YJ has more than half the team and everyone else got scraps. Stop complaining. Anyone of these teams could beat each other on any given day. Move on

Agree, the complaining is ridiculous. That said, it goes on every year. Back in 2016 CR was not involved and I do not recall YJ coaches being involved in the selection process. Back then there was only 1 team, they selected 24 players and the majority were YJ. There were 16 (2016's) 6 (2017's) and 2 (2018's) The same complaints all from the delusional parents. Just about all for those players did / are doing very well in college at many of the best programs. Of the 16 (2016's) I believe 11 or 12 are captains of their college teams. Every year there are a handful of players who are just as deserving but there just isn't room due to roster size. In most cases, the players selected are the same players who the best college programs recruit. Just look at any given year and see how many Long Island Players go on to play at the perennial Top 15 - 20 programs. Maybe 20 - 30 players from Long Island are offered spots at the Top 15 - 20 programs (and SBU skews those numbers.) The Top Programs consistently bring in the majority of the top players, that is why they are always on top. There are some parents who have a legitimate argument but most are not realistic about their daughters ability.

Complaining is ridiculous? Not saying yes, not saying no, but in looking over these posts, there seems to be some real questions/observations. Reputations, suckers, CR past history, biased selections, etc. Jesters coach is the coach? 2 Jesters evaluators and 1 YJ? Or vice versa? 14 YJ make and 5 Jesters make out of a roster of 23? 2 goalies so only 2 other field positions? YJ for the past few years in the 23 class has been good, not great. They would be in B+ brackets in tournaments and not win much or at all in these tournaments. Then they had the merge. Not much changed. Did they plateau? Maybe, happens all the time - players are good early and when everyone else starts to grow, and get better, stronger faster, the talent gap closes quickly. Probably a combination of both? No club is immune to it. No one is questioning CR getting players to great schools, and banking on it going forward, can't blame anyone for thinking that way, but the 23's are not the same collection of talent of her A teams of the past. The merged team last summer, if the talent I keep hearing is loaded, stacked, etc, then why did they not roll through everyone last summer (and lose to Jesters this summer) is a fair question? With the exception of maybe a few, it is pretty hard to say anyone had a chance to create a reputation to make UA on reputation alone. When you factor everything in, 19 out of the 21 field positions went to players who the evaluators coach, or are club affiliated with, is almost a statistical impossibility. It seems a bit disingenuous to level labels of whiners, etc when taking all into consideration.

Yup!

Question for the Topguns parents, why weren’t the Smiths there to protect their players? If the system is rigged and has been for years why didn’t they make the trip. Instead of complaining about Rose protecting the YJ [ChillLaxin] to the Smiths because they didn’t care enough to make the trip.

[quote=Anonymous]Question for the Topguns parents, why weren’t the Smiths there to protect their players? If the system is rigged and has been for years why didn’t they make the trip. Instead of complaining about Rose protecting the YJ [ChillLaxin] to the Smiths because they didn’t care enough to make the trip.

Didn’t realize you needed a club representative in order to make UA thought it was supposed to be impartial. So buyer beware if your daughters club whoever she plays for does not send an evaluator save your money. At registration it said players will be evaluated by impartial evaluators.
The only evaluators present were YJ 3 evaluators (15 players selected)
Jesters 4 evaluators (5 players selected).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Question for the Topguns parents, why weren’t the Smiths there to protect their players? If the system is rigged and has been for years why didn’t they make the trip. Instead of complaining about Rose protecting the YJ [ChillLaxin] to the Smiths because they didn’t care enough to make the trip.

Didn’t realize you needed a club representative in order to make UA thought it was supposed to be impartial. So buyer beware if your daughters club whoever she plays for does not send an evaluator save your money. At registration it said players will be evaluated by impartial evaluators.
The only evaluators present were YJ 3 evaluators (15 players selected)
Jesters 4 evaluators (5 players selected).

What a joke! An embarrassment to the UA name. Why not have the club coaches from different regions swap. Wouldn’t be perfect, but would be a huge improvement to what we have now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Question for the Topguns parents, why weren’t the Smiths there to protect their players? If the system is rigged and has been for years why didn’t they make the trip. Instead of complaining about Rose protecting the YJ [ChillLaxin] to the Smiths because they didn’t care enough to make the trip.

Didn’t realize you needed a club representative in order to make UA thought it was supposed to be impartial. So buyer beware if your daughters club whoever she plays for does not send an evaluator save your money. At registration it said players will be evaluated by impartial evaluators.
The only evaluators present were YJ 3 evaluators (15 players selected)
Jesters 4 evaluators (5 players selected).

What a joke! An embarrassment to the UA name. Why not have the club coaches from different regions swap. Wouldn’t be perfect, but would be a huge improvement to what we have now!

It’s a 4 hour event featuring several scrimmages, where your sub’d out, where nobody passes the ball, everyone is a ball hog, if your kid is Placed on a team with little talent, she may never touch the ball. If your a goalie you may never see a shot, defender the ball is on the offensive side your entire shift? Play attack Same thing. But impartial evaluators will get it right? You think it’s bad now, try that and you’ll drown in the tears here.
It’s about politics, always has been. The Smiths know it but didn’t show. Be mad at them for not pushing their deserving players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Question for the Topguns parents, why weren’t the Smiths there to protect their players? If the system is rigged and has been for years why didn’t they make the trip. Instead of complaining about Rose protecting the YJ [ChillLaxin] to the Smiths because they didn’t care enough to make the trip.

Didn’t realize you needed a club representative in order to make UA thought it was supposed to be impartial. So buyer beware if your daughters club whoever she plays for does not send an evaluator save your money. At registration it said players will be evaluated by impartial evaluators.
The only evaluators present were YJ 3 evaluators (15 players selected)
Jesters 4 evaluators (5 players selected).

What a joke! An embarrassment to the UA name. Why not have the club coaches from different regions swap. Wouldn’t be perfect, but would be a huge improvement to what we have now!

IMO Corrigan hurt future his business. YJ Thorn had everyone of her 23 YJ make the call back game. Between Thorn and the Jesters coaches they were there only to ensure their club players were on the team.

Can’t have it both ways!
One post criticized Thorn for taking a player that she had moved to the B team calling her a hypocrite. Wouldn’t it be even worse if she did not take the players from her A team?

For all those calling “unfairness” out there, and one stunad actually saying that their “reputations” are not build up yet, go back to Lacrosse Magazine, Inside Lacrosse, Newsday, Back of the Cage and your own Varsity coaches because THEY keep picking the same girls. Fact-(almost) every attack or middle selected not only played on Varsity in 8th grade but also scored points (goal/assist) on the varsity level on LI. That means that the varsity coaches from West Babylon, Mt.Sinai, Comsowogue, BBP, Long Beach, North Shore, Friends Academy, etc. etc Chose these same girls. One had 41 pts in 8th grade LI varsity, one had 49 and one had 89 !!
You don’t think the reputations have been established? It is your own coaches who Helped them get established. How many points did your daughter put up in 8th grade varsity? Did she even make your towns’ varsity team before 9th grade?
The list of players on this Corrigan team have been the top of LI in every other evaluation for years, this one just follows the others, including your own HS coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t have it both ways!
One post criticized Thorn for taking a player that she had moved to the B team calling her a hypocrite. Wouldn’t it be even worse if she did not take the players from her A team?

For all those calling “unfairness” out there, and one stunad actually saying that their “reputations” are not build up yet, go back to Lacrosse Magazine, Inside Lacrosse, Newsday, Back of the Cage and your own Varsity coaches because THE
Y keep picking the same girls. Fact-(almost) every attack or middle selected not only played on Varsity in 8th grade but also scored points (goal/assist) on the varsity level on LI. That means that the varsity coaches from West Babylon, Mt.Sinai, Comsowogue, BBP, Long Beach, North Shore, Friends Academy, etc. etc Chose these same girls. One had 41 pts in 8th grade LI varsity, one had 49 and one had 89 !!
You don’t think the reputations have been established? It is your own coaches who Helped them get established. How many points did your daughter put up in 8th grade varsity? Did she even make your towns’ varsity team before 9th grade?
The list of players on this Corrigan team have been the top of LI in every other evaluation for years, this one just follows the others, including your own HS coaches.

Don’t come on here with all your facts. People don’t like facts on BOTC! They like to whine. You’re ruining it for all the whiners. Your post has too much truth to it, these girls have been picked first for everything. This is no different. Collectively they are the top of their age group ( missing one or two out of TG I’m sure ). Evals are over. Let it go already.

Hey we all pay a ton of money for our daughters to play travel lacrosse. Why wouldn’t you make sure your club has representatives at every single event that has a tryout. I don’t care if it’s School Girls, Under Armour or Empire State (that’s for the old timers) this is why you have to know how your club will be advocating for your daughter. Makes no difference if it’s a tryout or a conversation with a college coach. Make sure your director will go the extra mile for your child. Now I know you will say it’s supposed to be impartial ? Listen.... they always get the top 10-12 studs right , it’s the next 10-12 spots that are up for grabs. This is where there are a lot of girls with the same talent level. So who do you take ,the one you have seen play all season or role the dice on a player, who maybe just maybe had a great tryout or the one you have a solid history of how they play all year long. It’s pretty simple ,hold your directors to giving you all they possibly can , or give your money to someone who will.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t have it both ways!
One post criticized Thorn for taking a player that she had moved to the B team calling her a hypocrite. Wouldn’t it be even worse if she did not take the players from her A team?

For all those calling “unfairness” out there, and one stunad actually saying that their “reputations” are not build up yet, go back to Lacrosse Magazine, Inside Lacrosse, Newsday, Back of the Cage and your own Varsity coaches because THEY keep picking the same girls. Fact-(almost) every attack or middle selected not only played on Varsity in 8th grade but also scored points (goal/assist) on the varsity level on LI. That means that the varsity coaches from West Babylon, Mt.Sinai, Comsowogue, BBP, Long Beach, North Shore, Friends Academy, etc. etc Chose these same girls. One had 41 pts in 8th grade LI varsity, one had 49 and one had 89 !!
You don’t think the reputations have been established? It is your own coaches who Helped them get established. How many points did your daughter put up in 8th grade varsity? Did she even make your towns’ varsity team before 9th grade?
The list of players on this Corrigan team have been the top of LI in every other evaluation for years, this one just follows the others, including your own HS coaches.

Talk about revising history. Check back a few pages and you will see the posts that state HS seasons mean nothing. So now you.... mr facts.... starts quoting HS stats. I guess your little bundle of joy scored a few points during meaningless HS games. We get it. You paid the YJ vig. You get to pump up little bundles bio. Congrats. Now.... go get your shine box.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey we all pay a ton of money for our daughters to play travel lacrosse. Why wouldn’t you make sure your club has representatives at every single event that has a tryout. I don’t care if it’s School Girls, Under Armour or Empire State (that’s for the old timers) this is why you have to know how your club will be advocating for your daughter. Makes no difference if it’s a tryout or a conversation with a college coach. Make sure your director will go the extra mile for your child. Now I know you will say it’s supposed to be impartial ? Listen.... they always get the top 10-12 studs right , it’s the next 10-12 spots that are up for grabs. This is where there are a lot of girls with the same talent level. So who do you take ,the one you have seen play all season or role the dice on a player, who maybe just maybe had a great tryout or the one you have a solid history of how they play all year long. It’s pretty simple ,hold your directors to giving you all they possibly can , or give your money to someone who will.

This

First, I’m Mrs. Facts. Second, get your shine box is the most pathetic reply to any post, kind of like I know you are but what am I. Child. I never posted HS means nothing a few pages back, someone else. The stats in a meaningless game absolutely mean nothing. What means a whole bunch is that the post referred to girls from districts across LI that took them as 8th graders and they got to play, regardless of situation. Those are who were chosen for this Are those girls. Same ones picked for talent by varsity coaches across LI. If it is in your town or not does not matter. These girls have been selected by all who come across them. Some questionable after the first 18. Get your shine box, pathetic.

YJ Vig ? I bet we pay less. $700 to be on YJ and $700 for tournaments. Winter indoor practice time costs are done team by team. YJ Vig? what a joke. You will grab at any reason your precious didn’t make it.

[quote=Anonymous]First, I’m Mrs. Facts. Second, get your shine box is the most pathetic reply to any post, kind of like I know you are but what am I. Child. I never posted HS means nothing a few pages back, someone else. The stats in a meaningless game absolutely mean nothing. What means a whole bunch is that the post referred to girls from districts across LI that took them as 8th graders and they got to play, regardless of situation. Those are who were chosen for this Are those girls. Same ones picked for talent by varsity coaches across LI. If it is in your town or not does not matter. These girls have been selected by all who come across them. Some questionable after the first 18. Get your shine box, pathetic.

Were any of the 5 Jesters that made UA on Varsity as 8th graders? Nope

Wrong. LD who left TG and is one of the 5 Jesters certainly did. Know what you are talking about.

There will always be whining and complaining in this sport. Many of the parents are delusional and they will never accept that their daughter is not one of the "elite" players in her age group on Long Island. They bring up politics, complain about how the tryouts were not fair, you name it that blame it. It has been said before on this site... "if you want to know where your daughter stands, just look at the schools that make early offers". If a player is truly one of the top 20 - 30 players in her grade from Long Island she will more than likely receive several offers from Top 10 - 15 programs. Are there a few girls who are overlooked ? sure but not many. The best college programs do an excellent job at identifying the best players so when few or zero Top 10 Programs make offers it should tell you something. Can't speak to the current command team but over the years Under Armour / Corrigan has done a very good job at identifying talent and selecting many of the strongest players. The vast majority of the Top players from Long island will be very high on many of the Top College Coaches lists and they are the first ones offered spots at the best programs. Thats just the way it is and every year many of those players are the same players who are selected for The UA Team.

I have read on here that "many" of the players are "interchangeable"... How many is "many" ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First, I’m Mrs. Facts. Second, get your shine box is the most pathetic reply to any post, kind of like I know you are but what am I. Child. I never posted HS means nothing a few pages back, someone else. The stats in a meaningless game absolutely mean nothing. What means a whole bunch is that the post referred to girls from districts across LI that took them as 8th graders and they got to play, regardless of situation. Those are who were chosen for this Are those girls. Same ones picked for talent by varsity coaches across LI. If it is in your town or not does not matter. These girls have been selected by all who come across them. Some questionable after the first 18. Get your shine box, pathetic.

Ok mrs facts. You were team mom and were able to get your little bundle on varsity. Congrats. Now..... go get your knitting box.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong. LD who left TG and is one of the 5 Jesters certainly did. Know what you are talking about.

I can tell you 1000% that one of the Jesters girls was an 8th grade starter in varsity and it’s not LD!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong. LD who left TG and is one of the 5 Jesters certainly did. Know what you are talking about.

Hmmm. So you are 20% correct. No much for facts huh.....mrs facts. And who cares. I guess you are the WB team mom.

“One of them who certainly did” means there could be more. Here someone provided 1000% fact that there is another. Great. Only supports my point. Those chosen in 8th grade to make Varsity Across LI made this team. They Have created recognition already.
Now- Get my knitting box? Even more childish, antiquated and boorish! Child-stunad.

The top schools are picking up 2022 talent.... up to about 20 commits at the end of week 1

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/commitments/girls?class=2022

yes for bethpage, they play in conference 4; do you realize how bad that lacrosse is???? sorry don't count. play conf 1 in nassau ,totally different story

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong. LD who left TG and is one of the 5 Jesters certainly did. Know what you are talking about.

Hmmm. So you are 20% correct. No much for facts huh.....mrs facts. And who cares. I guess you are the WB team mom.

Team moms rock 👏🏻

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top schools are picking up 2022 talent.... up to about 20 commits at the end of week 1

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/commitments/girls?class=2022

Many more in BOTC commitment section, twitter./Insta and sports recruits/connect lax sites.

[quote=Anonymous]yes for bethpage, they play in conference 4; do you realize how bad that lacrosse is???? sorry don't count. play conf 1 in nassau ,totally different story[

Bethpage lol

Quick summary of the past week or so:

Parents of girls who made the team are happy.
Parents of girls who didn't are sad.

The system is not likely to change - time to move on.

there are 2 showcases oct 12 Undisputed and downstate? both on long island which one is worth signing up for ? is one better than the other...do you think it will happen with coaches might having to quarantine?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top schools are picking up 2022 talent.... up to about 20 commits at the end of week 1

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/commitments/girls?class=2022

Schools are taking less this year. Very stressful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick summary of the past week or so:

Parents of girls who made the team are happy.
Parents of girls who didn't are sad.

The system is not likely to change - time to move on.

You forgot #3. Those who don’t care about UA this year because it’s a waste of money and time. Hopefully the real UA will be back next summer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there are 2 showcases oct 12 Undisputed and downstate? both on long island which one is worth signing up for ? is one better than the other...do you think it will happen with coaches might having to quarantine?

In the past neither were great, this year getting to these might be critical if your in the recruiting age groups. NY, Ct, NJ coaches wont have an issue traveling to LI ( as long as the dead period is lifted ) Coaches from further away probably arent willing to quarantine, IF their home university even allows out of state travel.
In the end its another chance at film..

And just like that Under Armour is out of luck. Last week they gave the date and location for the Northern Super Regional. Somehow they figured it would be a good idea to bring NY teams down to Maryland to play. Then a couple days later, NY added Maryland to the mandatory quarantine list. So all the players, parents, coaches would have to skip school, work etc... for two weeks when they get home. Not going to happen, especially when all the kids on the rosters are high profile and would stick out like a sore thumb if they tried to sneak back to school after attending. They would actually have to lie everyday to get admitted to school each day. I just don't understand why Under Armour can't set these games up in NY or at least the northeast where this stuff is not an issue. Can't imagine them running it in MD with the current ban, and if they do, I can't imagine people actually going, throwing two weeks of their life out the window. I expect they will be announcing alternative plans soon.

As it stands right now college coaches from 34 states would have to quarantine 2 weeks in NY before they could attend either of these showcases.

Saw this in a player's Bio, Favorite subject, Scince? Is that a subject they teach for 50K/year at Friends?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And just like that Under Armour is out of luck. Last week they gave the date and location for the Northern Super Regional. Somehow they figured it would be a good idea to bring NY teams down to Maryland to play. Then a couple days later, NY added Maryland to the mandatory quarantine list. So all the players, parents, coaches would have to skip school, work etc... for two weeks when they get home. Not going to happen, especially when all the kids on the rosters are high profile and would stick out like a sore thumb if they tried to sneak back to school after attending. They would actually have to lie everyday to get admitted to school each day. I just don't understand why Under Armour can't set these games up in NY or at least the northeast where this stuff is not an issue. Can't imagine them running it in MD with the current ban, and if they do, I can't imagine people actually going, throwing two weeks of their life out the window. I expect they will be announcing alternative plans soon.

If your in the state less than 24 hours there is no requirement to quarantine. just need to re-organize the schedule.. or make the drive twice..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And just like that Under Armour is out of luck. Last week they gave the date and location for the Northern Super Regional. Somehow they figured it would be a good idea to bring NY teams down to Maryland to play. Then a couple days later, NY added Maryland to the mandatory quarantine list. So all the players, parents, coaches would have to skip school, work etc... for two weeks when they get home. Not going to happen, especially when all the kids on the rosters are high profile and would stick out like a sore thumb if they tried to sneak back to school after attending. They would actually have to lie everyday to get admitted to school each day. I just don't understand why Under Armour can't set these games up in NY or at least the northeast where this stuff is not an issue. Can't imagine them running it in MD with the current ban, and if they do, I can't imagine people actually going, throwing two weeks of their life out the window. I expect they will be announcing alternative plans soon.

If your in the state less than 24 hours there is no requirement to quarantine. just need to re-organize the schedule.. or make the drive twice..

Corrigan Sports just removed the scheduled date and location and put it back to TBD. So it looks like MD is out and they need to go back to the drawing board.

Play in Westchester or Orange County (Upstate and LI ) drive home at night. Same thing on Sunday. New England can play and sleep in a hotel in Connecticut thereby not violating the 24 hour in state rule.

How were the boys able to play all summer and the girls ( considered non contact ) couldn’t get a game in ?

What is the UA Call Back Academy ? Anyone have any real info or past experience ? Is it a thing or not worth it ? Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How were the boys able to play all summer and the girls ( considered non contact ) couldn’t get a game in ?

TRUE STORY

Showcases...I saw the ad for the Undisputed Showcase on Columbus Day on the events page.

At what age/grade do players usually start attending them? Is it worth it for a freshman to attend one of those?

Originally Posted by JohnWick

Showcases...I saw the ad for the Undisputed Showcase on Columbus Day on the events page.

At what age/grade do players usually start attending them? Is it worth it for a freshman to attend one of those?

In order to get better you need to play...10,000 hours you know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by JohnWick

Showcases...I saw the ad for the Undisputed Showcase on Columbus Day on the events page.

At what age/grade do players usually start attending them? Is it worth it for a freshman to attend one of those?

In order to get better you need to play...10,000 hours you know

That doesn't answer my question, but thanks for the input.

When will the NCAA vote on dead period again. Can we assume another extension to 10/31 is coming soon? Will college coaches be able to attend anything this fall?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will the NCAA vote on dead period again. Can we assume another extension to 10/31 is coming soon? Will college coaches be able to attend anything this fall?

For girls who didn't play this summer there is a big disadvantage. Many coaches don't need to see fall games, There are not many spots available with the 5th year option, and many girls committing faster than ever this year.

100% agree on faster commitment's this year with no prospects days in site. Coaches are locking the girls in that were already on their radars.

My understanding was that the NCAA was voting on the dead period today.

D1 schools snapped up the top 50 players quickly in the first 2 weeks. Now the pace should be much slower for the next 3 months

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 schools snapped up the top 50 players quickly in the first 2 weeks. Now the pace should be much slower for the next 3 months

My opinion but, I think four to five 2022 recruits for most schools for this class. Lots of incumbents planning their 5th years already

Recruiting dead period extended through January 1, essentially making Fall Ball a waste of time, and putting lots of big pressure on the girls to have a strong spring and summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recruiting dead period extended through January 1, essentially making Fall Ball a waste of time, and putting lots of big pressure on the girls to have a strong spring and summer.

The beginning of your comment is "spot on", yes it has been extended, however your opinion is somewhat pessimistic. Have you considered that coaches will be watching the film that most tournaments are providing to them? Have you considered that players themselves are sending film? Players could also feel a propensity to play with more freedom and take more risks which might lead to a more creative approach to their game by learning new techniques. Just a thought that is a bit more uplifting.

[/quote] Players could also feel a propensity to play with more freedom and take more risks which might lead to a more creative approach to their game by learning new techniques.[/quote]

you mean like... GO TO GOAL..

Are the Girls threads shut down? Not one comment in the past week. Not that I'm complaining - I think everyone needed to take a breath.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote] Players could also feel a propensity to play with more freedom and take more risks which might lead to a more creative approach to their game by learning new techniques.

you mean like... GO TO GOAL..[/quote]

The single thing I detest most about girls lacrosse. Right there. Out in the open.

What's with so many girls going down with leg injuries?? Just heard about two more serious injuries to top players this week. Makes you wonder in they are overtraining? A real shame!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with so many girls going down with leg injuries?? Just heard about two more serious injuries to top players this week. Makes you wonder in they are overtraining? A real shame!

Yes Girls overtraining and parents overpaying. So sad!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with so many girls going down with leg injuries?? Just heard about two more serious injuries to top players this week. Makes you wonder in they are overtraining? A real shame!

Yes Girls overtraining and parents overpaying. So sad!!

Has absolutely nothing to do with it.
I’m sorry to hear that about the two girls. I wish them luck in their recovery and rehab.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with so many girls going down with leg injuries?? Just heard about two more serious injuries to top players this week. Makes you wonder in they are overtraining? A real shame!

Yes Girls overtraining and parents overpaying. So sad!!

Has absolutely nothing to do with it.
I’m sorry to hear that about the two girls. I wish them luck in their recovery and rehab.

Way more than two girls out injured! The rate of injury has dramatically increased over the past few years. Two new injuries this week, and it's not even the season, now these girls loose their season!

go to any college girls lacrosse game. you will see gilrs wearing knee braces. female athletes are 80% more likely to sustain a ligament injury than a male in teh same sport. has to do with the anatomy of teh hip. my oldest is in the PT field and thi keeps her very busy. good news is that the science has improved so much that they cn all rebound great. my son had three of them and was his college MVP. he is a CPA now. it all works out for th kids who put grades first. good luck to all the girls.

With new travel restrictions, will teams from NY, NJ, CT, MA, etc be heading to tournaments in MD or allowing teams from farther south to come to tournaments in their states?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With new travel restrictions, will teams from NY, NJ, CT, MA, etc be heading to tournaments in MD or allowing teams from farther south to come to tournaments in their states?

Who’s gonna stop us?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With new travel restrictions, will teams from NY, NJ, CT, MA, etc be heading to tournaments in MD or allowing teams from farther south to come to tournaments in their states?

Our team from the South was just disinvited from Lax for the Cure and Fall Face-off due to travel restrictions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With new travel restrictions, will teams from NY, NJ, CT, MA, etc be heading to tournaments in MD or allowing teams from farther south to come to tournaments in their states?

Who’s gonna stop us?

The tourneys themselves because they don't want to get into trouble and be liable and fined potentially as well. You will just be told not to come.

Hmmm...wonder if that is why some name changes are occurring for LI teams.

Right on! We played the Swarm team today @ PrimeTime and they were the Yellow Jackets. (Don’t know which team)
They also all wore different colored tshirts under their uni’s. Was this for visibility on film?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right on! We played the Swarm team today @ PrimeTime and they were the Yellow Jackets. (Don’t know which team)
They also all wore different colored tshirts under their uni’s. Was this for visibility on film?

Don’t understand the purpose of changing their name but yet still wearing the uniforms? Doesn’t make sense to me

Also mixed teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right on! We played the Swarm team today @ PrimeTime and they were the Yellow Jackets. (Don’t know which team)
They also all wore different colored tshirts under their uni’s. Was this for visibility on film?

Don’t understand the purpose of changing their name but yet still wearing the uniforms? Doesn’t make sense to me

No “Yellow Jacket” teams will travel this fall due to NYS restrictions and I’m sure attempting to avoid potential liability..... each player registered on their own, although the teams consisted of the usual players. The T-shirt thing was just random.. no hidden reason to it.

They were there, they called themselves the Swarm to hide from Covid protocols

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were there, they called themselves the Swarm to hide from Covid protocols

What’s your issue with it as you mentioned them already. Surely your not monitoring this thread over some YJ team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were there, they called themselves the Swarm to hide from Covid protocols

What’s your issue with it as you mentioned them already. Surely your not monitoring this thread over some YJ team

I don't think anyone was hiding it. They had a ILWomens Instagram take over by a HS kid who played for YJ and traveled to MD. She posted for three days straight. I wouldn't put that in the plans if I was trying to be sneaky.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were there, they called themselves the Swarm to hide from Covid protocols

What’s your issue with it as you mentioned them already. Surely your not monitoring this thread over some YJ team

I don't think anyone was hiding it. They had a ILWomens Instagram take over by a HS kid who played for YJ and traveled to MD. She posted for three days straight. I wouldn't put that in the plans if I was trying to be sneaky.

As was posted above the Yellow Jackets Organization did not register any "Teams" for the event.. each player registered as an individual and was placed on a team..As a business she did not send any teams there ... each player acted on their own..
it wasnt about being sneaky its about avoiding liability.. either from NYS oversight agency's/law enforcement or players who may get exposed to virus..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were there, they called themselves the Swarm to hide from Covid protocols

What’s your issue with it as you mentioned them already. Surely your not monitoring this thread over some YJ team

I don't think anyone was hiding it. They had a ILWomens Instagram take over by a HS kid who played for YJ and traveled to MD. She posted for three days straight. I wouldn't put that in the plans if I was trying to be sneaky.

As was posted above the Yellow Jackets Organization did not register any "Teams" for the event.. each player registered as an individual and was placed on a team..As a business she did not send any teams there ... each player acted on their own..
it wasnt about being sneaky its about avoiding liability.. either from NYS oversight agency's/law enforcement or players who may get exposed to virus..

For travelers who were out-of-state for less than 24 hours:

The traveler does not need a test prior to their departure from the other state, and does not need to quarantine upon arrival in New York State.
However, the traveler must fill out our traveler form upon entry into New York State, and take a COVID diagnostic test 4 days after their arrival in New York.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were there, they called themselves the Swarm to hide from Covid protocols

What’s your issue with it as you mentioned them already. Surely your not monitoring this thread over some YJ team

I don't think anyone was hiding it. They had a ILWomens Instagram take over by a HS kid who played for YJ and traveled to MD. She posted for three days straight. I wouldn't put that in the plans if I was trying to be sneaky.

As was posted above the Yellow Jackets Organization did not register any "Teams" for the event.. each player registered as an individual and was placed on a team..As a business she did not send any teams there ... each player acted on their own..
it wasnt about being sneaky its about avoiding liability.. either from NYS oversight agency's/law enforcement or players who may get exposed to virus..

Well YJ or Swarm. same results as the 22 team went 2-0-1 only tying a strong M&D black team.
and looks like the public enemy #1 team Thorn went 3-0 beating M&D and MD United. That team must be a little better than the local yokels claim.
So moral of story is YJ, Yellowjackets, or Swarm... results are the Same!!

With the High School season possibly being at risk of not being played this year, showcases are so important. Anyone know of some good Winter Showcases to go to so we can get some film and get seen by the colleges?

Originally Posted by LiLaxDad

With the High School season possibly being at risk of not being played this year, showcases are so important. Anyone know of some good Winter Showcases to go to so we can get some film and get seen by the colleges?

too soon dude...too soon..chill

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LiLaxDad

With the High School season possibly being at risk of not being played this year, showcases are so important. Anyone know of some good Winter Showcases to go to so we can get some film and get seen by the colleges?

too soon dude...too soon..chill

Don’t think it’s too soon. They asked a legitimate question about upcoming Winter Showcases. Check out the CB Laxers NY Showcase as it is local. May not be any spots left though but a good set of coaches will be there. Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by MomOf6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LiLaxDad

With the High School season possibly being at risk of not being played this year, showcases are so important. Anyone know of some good Winter Showcases to go to so we can get some film and get seen by the colleges?

too soon dude...too soon..chill

Don’t think it’s too soon. They asked a legitimate question about upcoming Winter Showcases. Check out the CB Laxers NY Showcase as it is local. May not be any spots left though but a good set of coaches will be there. Hope this helps.

It’s never too soon to have a player participate in a showcase. Besides the exposure it gives them valuable experience playing with/against good players in a pressure situation. It helps them manage their emotions while “interviewing”. Any showcase participation will serve to help players.

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by MomOf6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LiLaxDad

With the High School season possibly being at risk of not being played this year, showcases are so important. Anyone know of some good Winter Showcases to go to so we can get some film and get seen by the colleges?

too soon dude...too soon..chill

Don’t think it’s too soon. They asked a legitimate question about upcoming Winter Showcases. Check out the CB Laxers NY Showcase as it is local. May not be any spots left though but a good set of coaches will be there. Hope this helps.

It’s never too soon to have a player participate in a showcase. Besides the exposure it gives them valuable experience playing with/against good players in a pressure situation. It helps them manage their emotions while “interviewing”. Any showcase participation will serve to help players.

i think the too soon was meant for the HS season being cancelled...showcases are always a good idea anyway

Can I ask why showcases at $400-500 a pop are a value when you play the big tournaments in high brackets every summer? Did girls do this 8 years ago? If you play on LITG team or M&D do you need to do showcases?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I ask why showcases at $400-500 a pop are a value when you play the big tournaments in high brackets every summer? Did girls do this 8 years ago? If you play on LITG team or M&D do you need to do showcases?

IMHO players do not need to go to a "showcase".

Showcases help some but are really just a money grab and the cost for what is offered is insanely high

I see the ESM parent/parents are going on social media to drum up votes for “ Preseason Player of the Year”.......sorta makes it a popularity contest no ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the ESM parent/parents are going on social media to drum up votes for “ Preseason Player of the Year”.......sorta makes it a popularity contest no ?

Girls going to top 5 schools not even listed. Once again...YJ Bio fluff. Will see who the real players are Spring’22 when we see what freshman are playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I see the ESM parent/parents are going on social media to drum up votes for “ Preseason Player of the Year”.......sorta makes it a popularity contest no ?

Girls going to top 5 schools not even listed. Once again...YJ Bio fluff. Will see who the real players are Spring’22 when we see what freshman are playing.

Was that poll for seniors only?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the ESM parent/parents are going on social media to drum up votes for “ Preseason Player of the Year”.......sorta makes it a popularity contest no ?

Girls going to top 5 schools not even listed. Once again...YJ Bio fluff. Will see who the real players are Spring’22 when we see what freshman are playing.

Very true, every year the large majority of the top players go to the same 10-15 programs and they Play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the ESM parent/parents are going on social media to drum up votes for “ Preseason Player of the Year”.......sorta makes it a popularity contest no ?

Girls going to top 5 schools not even listed. Once again...YJ Bio fluff. Will see who the real players are Spring’22 when we see what freshman are playing.

Very true, every year the large majority of the top players go to the same 10-15 programs and they Play.

total popularity contest its so ridiculous

FAN POLE, let it go!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FAN POLE, let it go!

The only Poll that really matters is the Poll that each college coach looks at... That would be the one that they look at to see where they have a player ranked on "their list". If you want to know where a player ranks among their peers just look at the caliber of schools that offer a "scholarship / spot" to the player. For the most part, the Top Tier Players receive offers from and choose to accept offers from Top Tier Programs. Approximately 25 - 30 players each year from Long Island are considered Top Tier by the coaches at the top college programs. Each year there are some players who get overlooked but for the most part the top players receive offers from the top programs (Top 20 caliber programs). In some cases, a top tier player will choose to accept an offer from a non traditional Top 20 program but that is the exception, not the rule.
Just remember, the "Experience" that this sport offers our daughters can be incredible wherever they play.

Is there a Winter League for HS and or Clubs taking place on the island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a Winter League for HS and or Clubs taking place on the island?

The one usually held at KK in Brentwood Nov/Dec was postponed until February ( If at all) may be worth an inquiry

This was written about hockey tryouts but could easily be lacrosse. Raise your hand if you recognize yourself.
https://www.si.com/hockey/features/...m=SI%20Extra%20-%20USE%20THIS%20-%20List

Summer 2021
Will there be any college camps? This is the one big box we want to tik. My 23 - this is her last real summer to do this stuff right?
We play for competitive club league in MD-
We have done the big tounaments-
We have done showcases-
We have done invitiationals-
I really need her to see what its like to go to school away from the plethora of schools, albiet target rich, in our area.
She needs to sleep in dorms with strangers that turn into best friends by weeks end. Eat dorm food. Get lost on campus. Spend all her cash at the book store. She needs to fall in love with a school and not take it so much for granted!

I don't know that there will be any college camps this summer. I think it will depend on if colleges open their campuses back up and with the slow vaccine roll out I'm not holding my breath. Would you do any of the showcases/invitationals again if need be (and what showcases and invitationals have you done)?
And by college showcases - do you mean college id camps (like lacrosse masters)?

Yes, we have been to a multi-school ID camp at "Big10" but it was a year too soon.
This past summer and this coming summer were the ones where we were to really hit some specific schools/camps and then go back to make sure this summer. Oh well...

I know everyone is in this same boat and recruiting will really change because of this. It almost seems that you need to have your own Insta with all of your workouts to get seen as well. Take note people!

Lets just cheer that there seems to be a season this year!

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

[quote=Anonymous]Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

American Select easy decision.

American Select. She played UA Command last year so if she makes AS she will go there.

I will have to look into it but that Corrigan is really cheapening the brand and UA is in trouble all over the place. (Finanacially)

Now that the schedules are up for Suffolk, who will be the top teams? Mt Sinai, BP, Northport, Smithtown, ESM?

Bp looks good! They went to the final at The indoor national championship over the winter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

Although I do like Top of the Bay, I had to snicker when I saw Skywalkers as the 23 girls coach. They get their tentacles into everything!
It is nice that you can only try out for one region, unlike UA.
So sad and pitiful to see the Baltimore tryout seconds run down to Columbia to try to get on the DC team. Unfair for the DC crowd and shame for you. Coaches will always watch your games just because your Baltimore so stop trying to pad your accolades. Let the players from Tx and the Carolinas worry about accolades.
And the mixed Baltimore Command team couldn't even pull off a win vs Connie. Lets bring it back home this year girls!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

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"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

SB Had one in the senior AA Game ESM Player

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer 2021
Will there be any college camps? This is the one big box we want to tik. My 23 - this is her last real summer to do this stuff right?
We play for competitive club league in MD-
We have done the big tounaments-
We have done showcases-
We have done invitiationals-
I really need her to see what its like to go to school away from the plethora of schools, albiet target rich, in our area.
She needs to sleep in dorms with strangers that turn into best friends by weeks end. Eat dorm food. Get lost on campus. Spend all her cash at the book store. She needs to fall in love with a school and not take it so much for granted!

Yes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

First off your numbers are ridiculous in that you are only looking at LI kids which is essentially all SBU gets, they had 2 senior game UA AA in total on their team ,my guess is UNC has 15 or more. Non of the SBU players were highly recruited by the top programs. If you think any other coach would do better at SBU you just have no idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

First off your numbers are ridiculous in that you are only looking at LI kids which is essentially all SBU gets, they had 2 senior game UA AA in total on their team ,my guess is UNC has 15 or more. Non of the SBU players were highly recruited by the top programs. If you think any other coach would do better at SBU you just have no idea.

Why so sensitive? Why are his numbers ridiculous? And why are you making this about Stony Brook? The guy took a post (cut and paste) from yj board regarding Under Armour Underclass selection and introduced it to this conversation regarding UA Underclass vs American Select... I assume pointing out why he agreed with another post that Under Armour would be a better event based on its past history.
Stony Brook was mentioned on the periphery , SBU was not the topic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

First off your numbers are ridiculous in that you are only looking at LI kids which is essentially all SBU gets, they had 2 senior game UA AA in total on their team ,my guess is UNC has 15 or more. Non of the SBU players were highly recruited by the top programs. If you think any other coach would do better at SBU you just have no idea.

How do you know that "none of the SBU players were highly recruited by the top programs"? Are you an agent for these players? Stony Brook gets plenty of very good well known players as the above post points out. Do they get "the best" players no, but very few schools do. Stony Brook is a very good program and they have and have had some great players but the mantra that JS somehow turns water into wine is just far fetched and it diminishes the players. The vast majority of the stars / starters were all very good HS players who were very well known in the lacrosse world. As far as saying that they were not "highly recruited by the top programs" maybe you are right I don't know who they were recruited by. I do know that Stony Brook has had very little success vs the "top programs" so I guess those coaches know what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

First off your numbers are ridiculous in that you are only looking at LI kids which is essentially all SBU gets, they had 2 senior game UA AA in total on their team ,my guess is UNC has 15 or more. Non of the SBU players were highly recruited by the top programs. If you think any other coach would do better at SBU you just have no idea.

Why so sensitive? Why are his numbers ridiculous? And why are you making this about Stony Brook? The guy took a post (cut and paste) from yj board regarding Under Armour Underclass selection and introduced it to this conversation regarding UA Underclass vs American Select... I assume pointing out why he agreed with another post that Under Armour would be a better event based on its past history.
Stony Brook was mentioned on the periphery , SBU was not the topic.

Will be interesting to see how these stats pan out over the next few years. This years UA team will likely feature some good YJ '22s, although I see this class as weak in general. The 23's will be making a big presence. A few 3-4 YJ girls will stand out, although they really aren't YJ (Igloo)except MC girl. A reminder that the YJ '23 team combined with two other clubs to become competitive. TG will have at least as many as that. Legacy and Jesters are good for a couple as well. Wonder how many of those girls will wind up at SB?

Such a specifically BadPerson statement that the YJ team had to merge to be good and have any standout players. Absurd. The previous YJ team beat the previous Igloo team without MC girl. Multiple players have come from other clubs and gone to other clubs. All part of youth travel. To say that a couple Legs and Jesters are going to make a big presence but only the MC girl from earlier YJ team and the Igloo’s is both notIntelligent and childish. There are easily 3-6 girls from that earlier version that are top 20 players on-the-Island. Yes-add in MC girl and a few Igloos and a couple Legs and Jesters. That’s how you add up to 20.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

First off your numbers are ridiculous in that you are only looking at LI kids which is essentially all SBU gets, they had 2 senior game UA AA in total on their team ,my guess is UNC has 15 or more. Non of the SBU players were highly recruited by the top programs. If you think any other coach would do better at SBU you just have no idea.

How do you know that "none of the SBU players were highly recruited by the top programs"? Are you an agent for these players? Stony Brook gets plenty of very good well known players as the above post points out. Do they get "the best" players no, but very few schools do. Stony Brook is a very good program and they have and have had some great players but the mantra that JS somehow turns water into wine is just far fetched and it diminishes the players. The vast majority of the stars / starters were all very good HS players who were very well known in the lacrosse world. As far as saying that they were not "highly recruited by the top programs" maybe you are right I don't know who they were recruited by. I do know that Stony Brook has had very little success vs the "top programs" so I guess those coaches know what they are doing.

In fairness knowing LI players the way I do he gets many that are lower tier YJ blue or YJ gold (second team). That is also an older trend. Past few years they have gotten higher level talent there but the early years very much so

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

Quick FYI.... if you are considering / debating trying out for Under Armour Underclass or American Select.... To piggyback on the above post regarding the players from the 2014 and 2015 Long Island Underclass Rosters it looks like 26 of the 39 players were named Senior Under Armour All-Americans. I would say how a player performs in the underclass games (which have been the most competitive HS games) definitely play a role in the selection of the Senior All-American Girls.

Good Luck to all which ever one your daughter try's out for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

Quick FYI.... if you are considering / debating trying out for Under Armour Underclass or American Select.... To piggyback on the above post regarding the players from the 2014 and 2015 Long Island Underclass Rosters it looks like 26 of the 39 players were named Senior Under Armour All-Americans. I would say how a player performs in the underclass games (which have been the most competitive HS games) definitely play a role in the selection of the Senior All-American Girls.

Good Luck to all which ever one your daughter try's out for.

The saddest part of this discussion is that unless you have the financial resources, it has become nearly impossible to give your child the opportunity to showcase themselves. Tryout fees, tournament fees, food, hotels and lodging can add up into the thousands just for one showcase. Lacrosse has long been referred to as a rich kid preppy sport, while we see articles about making the sport more diverse, it really has become more of a rich kid sport than ever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will your daughter try out for Under Armour or American Select? If she tries out for both, and makes both teams, which one will you select?

The UA is still the better and more difficult team to make.
A- Its 2 combined classes 24/25 and 22/23
B- After the tryout fee its is FREEEEEEE
C- AS cost about $800 just for tryout plus fee,

D the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid.
E this is the first year of AS and look who runs it??? the top club from each area, so if you think UA was political then good luck at this.

I tend to agree with the above post. I realize there were complaints last year about the underclass games selection process on Long Island last year but this has been a great event for many years on both the girls and boys side. There are complaints about the selection process every year and most of those complaints are simply sour grapes (last year did appear to be different). Looking back over the years (there was a post not too long ago on the YJ thread) UA did a great job in the selection process on long Island as evident by how the players performed at the college level. Not sure how the under class games factor in but yes, " the senior UA game is still the greatest individual honor for a HS kid." I'm sure how a player performs in the Underclass Games is factored into the selection process for who is named Senior Under Armour All-American. The Underclass games have been the most competitive HS event there is especially when the teams from the hot bed areas play one another.

See below from Yellow Jacket thread...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Some time on my hands so I did a little research... my apologies if I miss by a number here and there... : )

2014 and 2015 Under Armour Underclass Teams from Long Island:

- Total of 39 players (some played more than 1 year).

- 20 College Programs Represented. 13 -15 would be considered Top 20 Programs.

- 13 Division I All-Americans (so far, many still playing)

- at least 21 All-Conference (so far)

- at least 17 Team Captains (so far)

- 35 Starters / Play every game.

- a few injured players I think Two career ending Injuries.

- 1 or 2 Reserve Players.

Where did the players go to college?

5 - Stony Brook
4 - North Carolina
4 - Princeton
3 - Florida
3 - Syracuse
3 - Notre Dame
2 - Penn
2 - Penn State
2 - USC
2 - Georgetown
1 - BC, Northwestern, UVA, Maryland, Richmond, Duke, Columbia, Yale, Lehigh.

The bottom line is that the complaints about the tryouts come every single year. The reality is that over the years Under Armour has done an excellent job with the selection process. The vast majority of the players selected go on to prove themselves at many of the Top College Programs. At least for these two years it looks like all but two players are excelling or excelled (graduated) at many of the most competitive programs.

Kind of goes against the narrative that "UA is a joke and it's the friends and family network".

The biggest surprise that also "busts" a narrative is how many players went to Stony Brook. I read on this site constantly how JS does more with less than anyone and how he brings in no-name recruits etc... Well SBU brought in the most of any program... If they made the Under Armour Underclass they were most certainly known players."

Quick FYI.... if you are considering / debating trying out for Under Armour Underclass or American Select.... To piggyback on the above post regarding the players from the 2014 and 2015 Long Island Underclass Rosters it looks like 26 of the 39 players were named Senior Under Armour All-Americans. I would say how a player performs in the underclass games (which have been the most competitive HS games) definitely play a role in the selection of the Senior All-American Girls.

Good Luck to all which ever one your daughter try's out for.

The saddest part of this discussion is that unless you have the financial resources, it has become nearly impossible to give your child the opportunity to showcase themselves. Tryout fees, tournament fees, food, hotels and lodging can add up into the thousands just for one showcase. Lacrosse has long been referred to as a rich kid preppy sport, while we see articles about making the sport more diverse, it really has become more of a rich kid sport than ever.

That’s unfortunately true for most sports. It’s all about the $$$.Lacrosse will alway be the rich white mans sport, no matter how much US lacrosse and company try to push equality. They do it all for show and don’t mean any of it. A shame!

Every sport (Football not included) is extremely expensive if the goal is to play in college. Hockey, soccer, baseball, basketball, wrestling, swimming, tennis, volleyball etc... private clubs, private training, strength training, travel etc.... no cheap dates. The difference with Lacrosse being from Long Island there are 10x the opportunities for our girls. Even if you are not one of the top tier players the opportunities are fantastic. The top players can pretty much pick their school (for some you do need excellent grades) try getting into Princeton, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, Notre Dame with out lacrosse or if you are not a top tier player? Try getting into Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, UVA , Michigan etc... if you are not a good player. The list goes on... the other Ivy’s, unc, BC, USC, Cal.... it’s crazy Out of state admissions at Maryland, Penn State, Virginia Tech etc... are all tough. How about Army and Navy? Good luck on your own . Not leaving anyone out intentionally just rattling off... that’s just DI.... go apply to a NESCAC without the coach. No other sport provides these opportunities? How Many Long Island girls are on the Field Hockey Rosters at UNC or Princeton, how many soccer players are on their rosters? How many LI girls are playing basketball in the ACC, Big 10 or The Ivy League ? Compare those numbers to How many are on the women’s lacrosse rosters in those conferences .
I wish it were much less expensive but at the end of the day I view all the money that we spent over the years (even when we really didn’t have it) as well worth it . All of my kids made a lot of friends, learned a lot of lessons and it is all working out academically as well.

Just checked, Long Island Women...
UNC Lacrosse - 8
UNC Soccer - 0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just checked, Long Island Women...
UNC Lacrosse - 8
UNC Soccer - 0

UNC Field Hockey - 0 from the Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every sport (Football not included) is extremely expensive if the goal is to play in college. Hockey, soccer, baseball, basketball, wrestling, swimming, tennis, volleyball etc... private clubs, private training, strength training, travel etc.... no cheap dates. The difference with Lacrosse being from Long Island there are 10x the opportunities for our girls. Even if you are not one of the top tier players the opportunities are fantastic. The top players can pretty much pick their school (for some you do need excellent grades) try getting into Princeton, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, Notre Dame with out lacrosse or if you are not a top tier player? Try getting into Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, UVA , Michigan etc... if you are not a good player. The list goes on... the other Ivy’s, unc, BC, USC, Cal.... it’s crazy Out of state admissions at Maryland, Penn State, Virginia Tech etc... are all tough. How about Army and Navy? Good luck on your own . Not leaving anyone out intentionally just rattling off... that’s just DI.... go apply to a NESCAC without the coach. No other sport provides these opportunities? How Many Long Island girls are on the Field Hockey Rosters at UNC or Princeton, how many soccer players are on their rosters? How many LI girls are playing basketball in the ACC, Big 10 or The Ivy League ? Compare those numbers to How many are on the women’s lacrosse rosters in those conferences .
I wish it were much less expensive but at the end of the day I view all the money that we spent over the years (even when we really didn’t have it) as well worth it . All of my kids made a lot of friends, learned a lot of lessons and it is all working out academically as well.

well said!
So true
pop all your soccer balls in your yard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every sport (Football not included) is extremely expensive if the goal is to play in college. Hockey, soccer, baseball, basketball, wrestling, swimming, tennis, volleyball etc... private clubs, private training, strength training, travel etc.... no cheap dates. The difference with Lacrosse being from Long Island there are 10x the opportunities for our girls. Even if you are not one of the top tier players the opportunities are fantastic. The top players can pretty much pick their school (for some you do need excellent grades) try getting into Princeton, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, Notre Dame with out lacrosse or if you are not a top tier player? Try getting into Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, UVA , Michigan etc... if you are not a good player. The list goes on... the other Ivy’s, unc, BC, USC, Cal.... it’s crazy Out of state admissions at Maryland, Penn State, Virginia Tech etc... are all tough. How about Army and Navy? Good luck on your own . Not leaving anyone out intentionally just rattling off... that’s just DI.... go apply to a NESCAC without the coach. No other sport provides these opportunities? How Many Long Island girls are on the Field Hockey Rosters at UNC or Princeton, how many soccer players are on their rosters? How many LI girls are playing basketball in the ACC, Big 10 or The Ivy League ? Compare those numbers to How many are on the women’s lacrosse rosters in those conferences .
I wish it were much less expensive but at the end of the day I view all the money that we spent over the years (even when we really didn’t have it) as well worth it . All of my kids made a lot of friends, learned a lot of lessons and it is all working out academically as well.

well said!
So true
pop all your soccer balls in your yard

Yes, this is true. But it has always been true for Long Island. Long before all the expensive show cases, clubs, etc.

Some complaints are legitimate...Corrigan stated this regarding LI girls last year. When the company running it knows something was wrong then I would say legitimate. The people that wronged them have gone on to create American Select, yet the 2 coaches that destroyed the “evaluation” process last year are still coaching for UA...go figure.

When everyone is clambering to get lacrosse scholarships because it is “easier” says more about the sport than the athletes. You actually have to have legitimate talent to play D1 women’s basketball and soccer...not so much in lacrosse.
Most of these lax girls with D1 scholarships head off to college never to be heard from again because they were never really a D1 talent. Even with all these clubs eating all your money, the D1 talent pool is small, forcing D1 schools to take girls that are not really D1 talents to fill out 30 man rosters.
The D1 path for basketball and soccer is much more difficult because you actually have to have legitimate talent and are competing for spots on team ms against girls all across the world...lacrosse you are battling maybe 7-8 states with club lacrosse programs. It is even more watered down with all the new D1 lax programs that are popping up due to the enforcement of title ix money.
Any D1 sports scholarship should be applauded, but let’s not get carried away with the sport of lax, when it is supposedly the “easiest” D1 scholarship to obtain.

Easy yes, easiest has to be field hockey

Not sure I agree with your math here, especially for the high academic schools which dont offer athletic scholarships. I would estimate that 85% of the kids on Sports Recruits or similar recruiting platform say they have a 4.0 average (And we all know a 4.0 at your average public HS is a different basis from a 4.0 at Exeter Academy). Compare this to football or basketball and that's just not the case. Football and basketball are literally dying for high academic kids who can help their academic index, not so for lacrosse. Lacrosse is very competitive for high academic kids. I agree they should cut the rosters down though for quality control.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When everyone is clambering to get lacrosse scholarships because it is “easier” says more about the sport than the athletes. You actually have to have legitimate talent to play D1 women’s basketball and soccer...not so much in lacrosse.
Most of these lax girls with D1 scholarships head off to college never to be heard from again because they were never really a D1 talent. Even with all these clubs eating all your money, the D1 talent pool is small, forcing D1 schools to take girls that are not really D1 talents to fill out 30 man rosters.
The D1 path for basketball and soccer is much more difficult because you actually have to have legitimate talent and are competing for spots on team ms against girls all across the world...lacrosse you are battling maybe 7-8 states with club lacrosse programs. It is even more watered down with all the new D1 lax programs that are popping up due to the enforcement of title ix money.
Any D1 sports scholarship should be applauded, but let’s not get carried away with the sport of lax, when it is supposedly the “easiest” D1 scholarship to obtain.

So since BOTC likes facts.... here are a few
Soccer-333
Basketball-349
Lacrosse-117.

Thanks for your opinion.... but facts matter.

Every DI school has a basketball and soccer program and not lacrosse...facts are good. If every D1 school had lacrosse programs the numbers would be lopsided towards lax.

One thing hasn’t changed, lax parents have a lot of free time on their hands. Any more statistics, anyone can look up stats that don’t matter and are out of context. Before you put out stats, look up how many D1 and basketball and soccer programs there are compared to lacrosse, then crunch those numbers.
A lot of know it all’s that know nothing. Ask any parent, what the “easiest” path for their daughter to play D1 sports and 95% would say lacrosse if it available in their town, city or region.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easy yes, easiest has to be field hockey

Not so coming from Long Island. Go take a look at the Top 10 Field Hockey programs and compare the number of Long Island girls on the rosters compared to the number of Long Island girls on the rosters at the Top 10 lacrosse programs.

“Only about 1.2 percent of the nation’s 400,000+ high-school women’s basketball athletes go on to play for a D1 women’s basketball program.”

Yet, some lax clubs send 100% of their club teams. You can scream till you are blue in the face, there are not 22 D1 players on your current club team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easy yes, easiest has to be field hockey

Not so coming from Long Island. Go take a look at the Top 10 Field Hockey programs and compare the number of Long Island girls on the rosters compared to the number of Long Island girls on the rosters at the Top 10 lacrosse programs.

Compare the number of international girls on the top 10 D1 field hockey programs to those who live here in the states. Not so easy getting a D1 field hockey scholarship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easy yes, easiest has to be field hockey

Not so coming from Long Island. Go take a look at the Top 10 Field Hockey programs and compare the number of Long Island girls on the rosters compared to the number of Long Island girls on the rosters at the Top 10 lacrosse programs.

Just looked quickly...

1 - Long Island player on 10 of the Traditional Top 10 Field Hockey rosters.... UNC, Duke, Del, BC, Michigan, Princeton, UVA, PSU, MD, UConn

70 (approximately) - Long Island players on 9 traditional lacrosse powers (left Stony Brook out) UNC, Syracuse, Northwestern, Penn, Princeton, ND, Florida, BC, UVA

Obviously Long Island Lacrosse is very strong, Long Island field hockey not a hotbed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing hasn’t changed, lax parents have a lot of free time on their hands. Any more statistics, anyone can look up stats that don’t matter and are out of context. Before you put out stats, look up how many D1 and basketball and soccer programs there are compared to lacrosse, then crunch those numbers.
A lot of know it all’s that know nothing. Ask any parent, what the “easiest” path for their daughter to play D1 sports and 95% would say lacrosse if it available in their town, city or region.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing hasn’t changed, lax parents have a lot of free time on their hands. Any more statistics, anyone can look up stats that don’t matter and are out of context. Before you put out stats, look up how many D1 and basketball and soccer programs there are compared to lacrosse, then crunch those numbers.
A lot of know it all’s that know nothing. Ask any parent, what the “easiest” path for their daughter to play D1 sports and 95% would say lacrosse if it available in their town, city or region.

I’m not sure what your point is.

The Majority of Lacrosse parents I know view Lacrosse as a way to help get their child into a College/University that they would otherwise not be able to get accepted at. Most were less concerned about scholarships knowing full well that only the majority of players do not receive significant “athletic scholarship $$” at the most competitive programs many of which are excellent academic institutions.

The goal is to get into a great school!
Coming from Long Island it is extremely difficult to get into the best schools without having something to offer in addition to grades and test scores.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When everyone is clambering to get lacrosse scholarships because it is “easier” says more about the sport than the athletes. You actually have to have legitimate talent to play D1 women’s basketball and soccer...not so much in lacrosse.
Most of these lax girls with D1 scholarships head off to college never to be heard from again because they were never really a D1 talent. Even with all these clubs eating all your money, the D1 talent pool is small, forcing D1 schools to take girls that are not really D1 talents to fill out 30 man rosters.
The D1 path for basketball and soccer is much more difficult because you actually have to have legitimate talent and are competing for spots on team ms against girls all across the world...lacrosse you are battling maybe 7-8 states with club lacrosse programs. It is even more watered down with all the new D1 lax programs that are popping up due to the enforcement of title ix money.
Any D1 sports scholarship should be applauded, but let’s not get carried away with the sport of lax, when it is supposedly the “easiest” D1 scholarship to obtain.

Are you responding to a particular post? I don't recall reading any posts that discussed people clambering to get a lacrosse scholarship. Lacrosse has always been about your kid getting into the best school possible, if she got some scholarship money it would be icing on the cake. The goal is not D1 the goal is a "Great Education". For some I'm sure that the chance to earn an athletic scholarship is appealing but most of us realize that only a small percentage of players receive a "Big" scholarship.

I guess I'm curious as to the overall point of your post. Is your daughter going to play basketball or soccer in college? I assume that your daughter plays lacrosse otherwise why would you be on this site.

In any event, I will use lacrosse to help my children get into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Columbia, Penn, Dartmouth, Cornell, Hopkins, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Georgetown, USC, Boston College, North Carolina, Virginia, Army, Navy, Michigan, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Villanova, Lehigh, Richmond etc... and have them be able to be part of a college team. No, a big scholarship was never part of the equation. Lacrosse provides tremendous opportunities for many Long Island Girls.

Not sure why you seem to have a problem with any of this.

Good luck to your daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When everyone is clambering to get lacrosse scholarships because it is “easier” says more about the sport than the athletes. You actually have to have legitimate talent to play D1 women’s basketball and soccer...not so much in lacrosse.
Most of these lax girls with D1 scholarships head off to college never to be heard from again because they were never really a D1 talent. Even with all these clubs eating all your money, the D1 talent pool is small, forcing D1 schools to take girls that are not really D1 talents to fill out 30 man rosters.
The D1 path for basketball and soccer is much more difficult because you actually have to have legitimate talent and are competing for spots on team ms against girls all across the world...lacrosse you are battling maybe 7-8 states with club lacrosse programs. It is even more watered down with all the new D1 lax programs that are popping up due to the enforcement of title ix money.
Any D1 sports scholarship should be applauded, but let’s not get carried away with the sport of lax, when it is supposedly the “easiest” D1 scholarship to obtain.

Are you responding to a particular post? I don't recall reading any posts that discussed people clambering to get a lacrosse scholarship. Lacrosse has always been about your kid getting into the best school possible, if she got some scholarship money it would be icing on the cake. The goal is not D1 the goal is a "Great Education". For some I'm sure that the chance to earn an athletic scholarship is appealing but most of us realize that only a small percentage of players receive a "Big" scholarship.

I guess I'm curious as to the overall point of your post. Is your daughter going to play basketball or soccer in college? I assume that your daughter plays lacrosse otherwise why would you be on this site.

In any event, I will use lacrosse to help my children get into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Columbia, Penn, Dartmouth, Cornell, Hopkins, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Georgetown, USC, Boston College, North Carolina, Virginia, Army, Navy, Michigan, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Villanova, Lehigh, Richmond etc... and have them be able to be part of a college team. No, a big scholarship was never part of the equation. Lacrosse provides tremendous opportunities for many Long Island Girls.

Not sure why you seem to have a problem with any of this.

Good luck to your daughter.

Great response!! In addition if you’re daughter plays basketball and or soccer and you’re from Long Island, beware. Take a look at big time basketball and soccer rosters at the college level. Long Island isn’t very well represented.

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

"...point made." I don't think so...

I believe the post that you are responding to states "use lacrosse to Help" get into what many would consider one of many great schools. The post also stated "and have them be part of a college team". So yes, many on this site have chosen to use lacrosse in order to help put their children in a better position to be accepted to a great college / university while at the same time provide them with the opportunity to enjoy all of the positives and benefits that go along with being part of a team. Some of us believe that athletics play a large role in the education of our children. Sports in general but especially team sports teach many lessons that will benefit our children throughout their life. Two of my kids who were both multi sport athletes are playing in college and both are at great schools that they would not have gotten into without lacrosse (and they were both good students). My children have all made friends along the way (as have my wife and I) and I am sure that many of their college teammates will be their close friends for life.

You state "parents giving absurd money to club teams and showcases to get an athletic scholarship" ... again, I have not seen much chatter about scholarships on here. I have seen a lot of talk regarding "recruiting" and the process not so much on scholarships.

I am curious though, do you believe that other sports are free? Do you believe that the top soccer and basketball players do not pay to be on club teams and participate in showcases?

If you think in this day and age getting into the Top Schools is easy you haven't had a child go through the process. If you did, and it was easy well then congratulations. In my experience, the kids that are playing lacrosse at the college worked pretty hard and are continuing to do so. Another benefit that lacrosse provides is the extensive networking opportunities that are available for those who choose to take advantage of the lacrosse network.

It sounds like you are bitter about something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

"...point made." I don't think so...

I believe the post that you are responding to states "use lacrosse to Help" get into what many would consider one of many great schools. The post also stated "and have them be part of a college team". So yes, many on this site have chosen to use lacrosse in order to help put their children in a better position to be accepted to a great college / university while at the same time provide them with the opportunity to enjoy all of the positives and benefits that go along with being part of a team. Some of us believe that athletics play a large role in the education of our children. Sports in general but especially team sports teach many lessons that will benefit our children throughout their life. Two of my kids who were both multi sport athletes are playing in college and both are at great schools that they would not have gotten into without lacrosse (and they were both good students). My children have all made friends along the way (as have my wife and I) and I am sure that many of their college teammates will be their close friends for life.

You state "parents giving absurd money to club teams and showcases to get an athletic scholarship" ... again, I have not seen much chatter about scholarships on here. I have seen a lot of talk regarding "recruiting" and the process not so much on scholarships.

I am curious though, do you believe that other sports are free? Do you believe that the top soccer and basketball players do not pay to be on club teams and participate in showcases?

If you think in this day and age getting into the Top Schools is easy you haven't had a child go through the process. If you did, and it was easy well then congratulations. In my experience, the kids that are playing lacrosse at the college worked pretty hard and are continuing to do so. Another benefit that lacrosse provides is the extensive networking opportunities that are available for those who choose to take advantage of the lacrosse network.

It sounds like you are bitter about something.

Sounds like a soccer dad who just realized that NY ranks right behind Alaska on the most girls soccer scholarship list by state.
Long Island is mecca for lacrosse. Soccer is unfortunately average to below average for an area.

Not bitter, not worried about soccer. My kids played D1, on scholarship, and didn’t have to go through the “club process”. To each is own, yes, kids play other club sports to go to college but let’s just not miss the point the that people like you “use” lacrosse try and get into those schools b/c of the inherent belief that it is the easiest. That is the point.
Not saying it is right or wrong and can’t get your kid into a good school. Us as parents have to use every avenue available to give our kids a shot at a good life and maybe a life better than ours.
Just too many are delusional about athletic ability because they play on a club team and spending way too much money to get their.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bitter, not worried about soccer. My kids played D1, on scholarship, and didn’t have to go through the “club process”. To each is own, yes, kids play other club sports to go to college but let’s just not miss the point the that people like you “use” lacrosse try and get into those schools b/c of the inherent belief that it is the easiest. That is the point.
Not saying it is right or wrong and can’t get your kid into a good school. Us as parents have to use every avenue available to give our kids a shot at a good life and maybe a life better than ours.
Just too many are delusional about athletic ability because they play on a club team and spending way too much money to get their.

Happy to hear that your kids had a good experience and that they earned scholarships. I honestly think it is terrific.

I will say that your point / points are strange...but I get it and unfortunately girls lacrosse creates a lot of animosity. That said, We "use" as in leverage lacrosse the same way we "use" or leverage hard work, good grades etc... in order to increase our child's likelihood / odds / chances etc... of getting into the best or right school. For some reason you seem to take issue with the concept.

As far as it being easy, I do not believe it was easy for any of the kids, I'm sure they all worked hard and did the best they could.

I do agree with you that there are a lot of delusional parents.... Not all of the kids are going to go to a Top 10 program or to a top 10 academic school but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. Set the bar and the goal high and even if you don't reach it you will probably do pretty well.

From a financial standpoint , everyone is in a different position and has different priorities. If Lacrosse or any other sport helps with the cost of college that is great.

I will say that if many of the best "lacrosse" athletes chose to specialize in another sport they would have success. We do not see the same opportunities in other sport for many reasons, it's not simply because the athletes are not here on The Island, a lot of other factors are involved.

Not sure when D1 dad's girls went to college, but I would say it's near impossible now to get into a respectable D1 school without being on a club team. Things are changing by the year, and this will be even more pronounced as colleges waive SATs and the number of applications shoot through the roof. Every little edge will count when it comes to getting into a top school (academically and lax-wise). And while it's great that your kids played D1, was it one of the schools the other poster mentioned? Not all D1s are alike, and I would much rather my kid not play lacrosse and go to a top educational institution than go to some no name D1 and face an uphill battle getting a job. Of course, the hope is that lacrosse will be the factor that determines whether my kid gets into a top school that otherwise would be very hard, even with top grades.

Many of the top lax programs are also the top academic schools as well - and therefore harder to get into without lacrosse. I would definitely take the time to prep for the SAT and take it by Fall of 11th grade. A top academic school will most likely have 1300-1450 SAT requirements for admission. If you fall in the higher end of that range - you will receive more academic merit regardless of college. I believe a 1250 SAT score will exempt you from counting as part of the 12 athletic scholarships allowed per D1 team - and you will be able to stack athletic money and multiple academic grants at some schools. Some lower D1 schools only have 1100-1250 SAT requirements, so if you score higher than that range - you would probably qualify for more grants because you would rank higher as a student at that school. Coaches always ask for transcripts and SAT scores to see how many academic grants they can offer you - and to see if you can get into their school via admissions.

In many of these smaller schools, 1300-1350 can also get you into their honors programs - which is more money in academic grants. Surprisingly, the honors program SAT requirements at one D1 school could be at, or lower, than the minimum SAT requirements at more prestigious school. If cost matters - than that deal will probably be a better fit. There are some really great state schools as well that would probably cost nearly the same - or at least in the same ballpark - as attending a private college without any athletic money at all. Also, not every college accepts AP and college credits the same way. Higher end schools want to see 4 or 5 on APs, where smaller colleges and state schools will accept 3s for credit. If your child spent the time taking college classes in high school, it would be worth if for them to get credit for the classes - and that is money too. 30 credits is a year of college in the bank.

Academics often get overlooked in the recruiting process. Not pushing small schools at all - but if money is an issue - they make sense for a lot of families. Good luck with the process!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many of the top lax programs are also the top academic schools as well - and therefore harder to get into without lacrosse. I would definitely take the time to prep for the SAT and take it by Fall of 11th grade. A top academic school will most likely have 1300-1450 SAT requirements for admission. If you fall in the higher end of that range - you will receive more academic merit regardless of college. I believe a 1250 SAT score will exempt you from counting as part of the 12 athletic scholarships allowed per D1 team - and you will be able to stack athletic money and multiple academic grants at some schools. Some lower D1 schools only have 1100-1250 SAT requirements, so if you score higher than that range - you would probably qualify for more grants because you would rank higher as a student at that school. Coaches always ask for transcripts and SAT scores to see how many academic grants they can offer you - and to see if you can get into their school via admissions.

In many of these smaller schools, 1300-1350 can also get you into their honors programs - which is more money in academic grants. Surprisingly, the honors program SAT requirements at one D1 school could be at, or lower, than the minimum SAT requirements at more prestigious school. If cost matters - than that deal will probably be a better fit. There are some really great state schools as well that would probably cost nearly the same - or at least in the same ballpark - as attending a private college without any athletic money at all. Also, not every college accepts AP and college credits the same way. Higher end schools want to see 4 or 5 on APs, where smaller colleges and state schools will accept 3s for credit. If your child spent the time taking college classes in high school, it would be worth if for them to get credit for the classes - and that is money too. 30 credits is a year of college in the bank.

Academics often get overlooked in the recruiting process. Not pushing small schools at all - but if money is an issue - they make sense for a lot of families. Good luck with the process!

Some good advice, except the very best academic schools don’t give any academic money (Ivies). 1300 SAT is what you need

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

"...point made." I don't think so...

I believe the post that you are responding to states "use lacrosse to Help" get into what many would consider one of many great schools. The post also stated "and have them be part of a college team". So yes, many on this site have chosen to use lacrosse in order to help put their children in a better position to be accepted to a great college / university while at the same time provide them with the opportunity to enjoy all of the positives and benefits that go along with being part of a team. Some of us believe that athletics play a large role in the education of our children. Sports in general but especially team sports teach many lessons that will benefit our children throughout their life. Two of my kids who were both multi sport athletes are playing in college and both are at great schools that they would not have gotten into without lacrosse (and they were both good students). My children have all made friends along the way (as have my wife and I) and I am sure that many of their college teammates will be their close friends for life.

You state "parents giving absurd money to club teams and showcases to get an athletic scholarship" ... again, I have not seen much chatter about scholarships on here. I have seen a lot of talk regarding "recruiting" and the process not so much on scholarships.

I am curious though, do you believe that other sports are free? Do you believe that the top soccer and basketball players do not pay to be on club teams and participate in showcases?

If you think in this day and age getting into the Top Schools is easy you haven't had a child go through the process. If you did, and it was easy well then congratulations. In my experience, the kids that are playing lacrosse at the college worked pretty hard and are continuing to do so. Another benefit that lacrosse provides is the extensive networking opportunities that are available for those who choose to take advantage of the lacrosse network.

It sounds like you are bitter about something.

Sounds like a soccer dad who just realized that NY ranks right behind Alaska on the most girls soccer scholarship list by state.
Long Island is mecca for lacrosse. Soccer is unfortunately average to below average for an area.

Not to mention that soccer is about as exciting to watch as paint drying. "The final was 1-0. It was a nail-biter! It was back in forth for the whole *90* minutes." 90 minutes to watch on goal. No thanks. Paint dries in an hour. I'll watch that.

Second only to field hockey where girls try to run while hunched over a stick that is clearly only half the size it ought to be. Are there any studies on what D1 field hockey player's spines look like by the time they're 40?

(Please note, I am not disparaging the players' efforts to excel. Both sports require tremendous dedication and skill.)

In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons) lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.
Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons) lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.
Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

By my count, 23 schools with Division I Women's Lacrosse Programs listed in those groups.... Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

Not sure how this convo started but anyone who has time to research and post a book on BOC is weird or a club owner. Sounds more like a club owner post. We get it, lax can open doors for you.

Most will not be going to any of those schools anyway. Only 3% of all lax players attend a D1 school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure how this convo started but anyone who has time to research and post a book on BOC is weird or a club owner. Sounds more like a club owner post. We get it, lax can open doors for you.

Most will not be going to any of those schools anyway. Only 3% of all lax players attend a D1 school.

It probably takes less than 5 minutes to “research”... just Google “top undergraduate feeder schools for investment banking “ or something to that affect.

It’s always funny when people who are posting on this site try to knock others for “having time to post”....

Now let’s get back to tearing down children, clubs, schools, teams, coaches etc... there is no time for posting anything, helpful, interesting, useful or positive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons) lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.
Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

By my count, 23 schools with Division I Women's Lacrosse Programs listed in those groups.... Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj-48mEoZ_wAhWxiOAKHfvQD_gQFjAAegQIBRAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestvalueschools.com%2Fcolleges-professional-partnerships%2F&usg=AOvVaw2unXzK1L3ugBroBfK47xiK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons) lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.
Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

By my count, 23 schools with Division I Women's Lacrosse Programs listed in those groups.... Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons) lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.
Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

By my count, 23 schools with Division I Women's Lacrosse Programs listed in those groups.... Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

Some great schools with awesome opportunities. 28 of the schools listed have Varsity Women's Lacrosse Teams (26 DI & 2 DIII). In contrast, only 16 of the schools above offer Varsity Men's Lacrosse (14 DI & 2 DII).

I think Sayville will give Bayport and MS a game if not beat both.

Relax, They beat Hauppauge

Does anyone know what the pre-season power rankings were for Suffolk this year?

So many blow out wins. What happened to some teams? Makes for very boring lacrosse. A few good games also. Great to see Wantagh take down Manhasset!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Relax, They beat Hauppauge

LOL, seriously. Sayville parent jumping the gun. Both BBP and MS stacked.

Great game yesterday Wantagh-Manhasset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Relax, They beat Hauppauge

LOL, seriously. Sayville parent jumping the gun. Both BBP and MS stacked.

Most likely not a Sayville parent posting that, just someone looking to start trouble. This is year belongs to BBP, it is their championship to lose. They are the deepest team and brimming with underclass talent.

Just like every year at BBP.

MS barely escaped Westhampton. Kudos to Sayville on huge win vs ESM. How bout West Islip beating West Babylon. A few great games yesterday!

I think everyone can agree Sayville is in the conversation now, Eastport is not Hauppauge!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know what the pre-season power rankings were for Suffolk this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know what the pre-season power rankings were for Suffolk this year?

Covid. The committed lax towns found a way to play.

BBP and Sayville are the 2 best teams in Suffolk Div II on paper, and on the commitment section of the YJ website. Sayville wins head to head. They don’t play each other in playoffs bc they’re in different divisions. On paper its each of their county championships to lose. We’ll find out in four weeks.

Mt Sinai girls team wins it’s 3rd 1 goal game of the season beating SWR at the buzzer.

If you want to teach officials how to call a game, use this game film. The crew missed a lot. Girls lacrosse is a non contact sport - MS drew 3 yellow cards and a green for delay of game for not giving the SWR player 5 yards after fouling her (prob should have been a yellow). Probably should have had half a dozen more yellows given the outrageous number of body checks and their over aggressive defensive play. MS played from behind most of the game. SWR like Westhampton lost the game.

Crafty MS coaches at one point put an extra player on the field subbing her through the box. They do a lot of subbing on the fly. Future opponents should take note and assign someone to count the players on the field every set bc the refs clearly don’t and the MS coaches continue to push the limits and make officials officiate. Tough spot bc the officials then get blamed for deciding the outcome but maybe if they start enforcing the basic rules the coaching shannigans that have been happening for years at MS may finally be exposed and end.

#1 on MS is legit. Has a great future ahead of her. Shocked to see younger Choma at MS. ESM, Riverhead and now MS. She’s in 9th grade. MS keeping up that tradition of importing talent into the district for their HS runs. Not sure if SWR is really good at this point or if MS winning is a fluke.

The referring situation needs to be addressed. Our players know more then them. What upsets me the most, is someone is going to get hurt because the refs don’t control the game.

MS always played games. Someone needs to beat him at his own “game”

The Steroid head dad from Comsewogue really just needs to be banned from attending all section XI games at this point. Why did you feel the need to come to our side of the field after the game? I know you’re on here, so might as well reply. You’re a classless piece of s$@t. At what age do you stop challenging grown men to a fist fight in the parking lot? Your team lost, put your tail between your legs and go home like everyone else does. I’ll refrain from calling out the girls on here as everyone already knows how dirty they are when they are losing!

Bayport shut them out last time they played so I’m sure they have their sneaky coach figured out.

Are you saying a ESM kid is now playing for Mt. Sinai

Bayport and Sayville are in the same division this year. Sayville moved to C. West Islip moved to B as well as WHB moved to B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bayport and Sayville are in the same division this year. Sayville moved to C. West Islip moved to B as well as WHB moved to B

Did any schools move down to D?

Cold Spring Harbor

Bayport vs ESM, how is this game gonna play out.

BBP wins by 6 goals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP wins by 6 goals

ESM doesn’t have the firepower that BBP has, and BBP has more depth.

We’ll see. That’s why we play the games! Great stuff after nada last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just like every year at BBP.

BBP is always stacked. This year is different. There is a new coach in the mix and he makes a difference. The other coach can't get off LI with the best of the best players handed to him year after year.

moved to D?

Sayville has been in C. They didn’t move

Bayport is really good and Mt Sinai is not. It’s called talent. Bayport has a lot of it. We’ll see how the new coach helps. Unlike Mattituck where it was basically 1 super talented Family, he’ll have to manage several there.

Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Garden City has some creative coaching this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Garden City has some creative coaching this year.

GC really took it to Massapequa yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Garden City has some creative coaching this year.

GC really took it to Massapequa yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Garden City has some creative coaching this year.

GC really took it to Massapequa yesterday.

(laughing so hard I am crying emoji)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Garden City has some creative coaching this year.

All you need to beat Bayport is a good 12 man ride.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Garden City has some creative coaching this year.

All you need to beat Bayport is a good 12 man ride.

We shouldn't even play the rest of the year BBP is too good just give them the title and let's move on.

Having no shot clock destroys HS lax. When will it end? Ridiculous and boring! At the very least, refs should call delay of game. Some teams stall for the entire second half!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Bayport is set to run the table. Mt Sinai or anyone else doesn't have a chance unless they come up with some creative coaching.

Garden City has some creative coaching this year.

All you need to beat Bayport is a good 12 man ride.

We shouldn't even play the rest of the year BBP is too good just give them the title and let's move on.

Not sure who will win "c" division in Suffolk, but BBP is likely the favorite as of now. But I will make one prediction, whoever wins the "C" division will not be undefeated.

Mt Sinai will dethrone BBP today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

ehhh i don’t know about that. Live in 1 of the 2 top lax towns in Nassau and can tell you that I have seen 2 generations of (in both towns) HS Lax >>> Ivy League lax>> Wall St>> profit ( with another generation on the horizon)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai will dethrone BBP today.

I think you spelled lose to wrong 🤔

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai will dethrone BBP today.

I think you spelled lose to wrong 🤔

LOL...alotta mediocre lacrosse being played in suffolk. Division B, C, D...lol okie solid guys

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai will dethrone BBP today.

I think you spelled lose to wrong 🤔

Mt S. took a beatdown. Very mediocre players on that team.

LOL that is because his daughters are on the team ~ leading goal scorer and has crazy assists every game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Help girls with what? High School Stats do not help with anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

ehhh i don’t know about that. Live in 1 of the 2 top lax towns in Nassau and can tell you that I have seen 2 generations of (in both towns) HS Lax >>> Ivy League lax>> Wall St>> profit ( with another generation on the horizon)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, parents giving absurd money to club teams and “showcases” to get an athletic scholarship. Go back and read the tread.
That’s nice you want a great education or your kids, but most people do it for their kids to actually “play” at the next level. You don’t need to “use” lacrosse to get into those schools you just know it is the easiest route to do so...point made.

ehhh i don’t know about that. Live in 1 of the 2 top lax towns in Nassau and can tell you that I have seen 2 generations of (in both towns) HS Lax >>> Ivy League lax>> Wall St>> profit ( with another generation on the horizon)

Exactly, lacrosse helps in so many ways. Our daughters have even more opportunities than our sons. On the boys side there is too much talent, more players than spots. On the girls side however, there are many more available spots. Off the top of my head, Columbia, Stanford, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Boston College, USC, Cal, Florida, Arizona State, Va Tech, Louisville, Colorado, Oregon etc... all have women’s varsity lacrosse. I realize there are many others but those schools would certainly be very attractive and provide great opportunities to the boys. Be thankful, the girls have so many great opportunities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

College coaches, especially at the “good schools” (whatever that means) do very little (if any) recruiting at HS games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Exactly this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Exactly this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Exactly this.

Does anyone know or have a source to the max amount of players (girls) a NY State (Long Island) HS team is allowed to have? Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Exactly this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Exactly this.

Does anyone know or have a source to the max amount of players (girls) a NY State (Long Island) HS team is allowed to have? Thank you.

I have never heard that NY State regulates the roster size of HS lacrosse teams.

Did the coach tell you there was a limit?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Exactly this.

Talented only in respect to the other girls on their own team, and the poor teams they play. As far as related to the other top girls on LI, not even close. But this is a result of the schedule they play, they get opportunities to run scores up on really bad teams. But this is very typical of these HS point lists every year. No disrespect to these other teams about to be mentioned, but C Moriches plays mattituck, Babylon, Deer Park, Islip, Bellport, Port Jeff, Hampton Bays, Elwood.John Glenn. If the Bayport were playing this schedule, half the girls on the roster would have 200 points in the stat sheet already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Going to take more than stats on a crappy HS team to get recognized and recruited to a good school. Truth is what you do in big games against top competition. There these "stat leaders" fall apart. Nobody is that dense here!

I would also add that it is much harder to get big stat numbers when the the team has many solid players who play lax correctly and share the ball. When there is only 1-2 talented girls on a team, they will score all the goals and look better than their numbers suggest in many cases. Look at the stats for the powerhouse teams and you will see that its not just one girl scoring.

Exactly this.

Talented only in respect to the other girls on their own team, and the poor teams they play. As far as related to the other top girls on LI, not even close. But this is a result of the schedule they play, they get opportunities to run scores up on really bad teams. But this is very typical of these HS point lists every year. No disrespect to these other teams about to be mentioned, but C Moriches plays mattituck, Babylon, Deer Park, Islip, Bellport, Port Jeff, Hampton Bays, Elwood.John Glenn. If the Bayport were playing this schedule, half the girls on the roster would have 200 points in the stat sheet already.

Well that is why there are divisions based on school size. When you can produce a good solid team when you have possibly 50 girls in a grade that is divided over multiple sports you can't expect them to compete regularly with schools with hundreds of kids. I can't vouch on who these girls are or how the team is but I presume they are competitive within the small schools and would have a harder time with the big schools.

Center Moriches has an average of 145 students per grade 9-12. BBP has an average of 185, Mt. Sinai 195, Sayville 245 and Northport 495 just to give an idea of too programs.

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

My daughter is in 8th and plays. She fits right in talent wise, but the older girls get nasty and jealous when she scores. they don't want an 8th grader taking stats from them. Comes from the parents I'm sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I agree. Even if they are good enough let them play with their class than they can move on a play 4 years with the HS team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

what is the rush for 7/8th graders to play high school ball. let them enjoy their middle school years. let them physcially mature.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what is the rush for 7/8th graders to play high school ball. let them enjoy their middle school years. let them physcially mature.

My 8th grade daughter is better than the seniors on her team and deserves to play because she earned it. Same as a freshman starting in college. Nobody's spot should be guaranteed. You sound selfish and entitled

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what is the rush for 7/8th graders to play high school ball. let them enjoy their middle school years. let them physcially mature.

My 8th grade daughter is better than the seniors on her team and deserves to play because she earned it. Same as a freshman starting in college. Nobody's spot should be guaranteed. You sound selfish and entitled

absolutely let them play even if they are 7th graders. High school not PAL! stop giving everyone a trophy!
The best kids should play. Middle school sports are a joke!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I think there is a lot that has to be considered before bringing an 8th grader up to varsity. 7th grader, I say no way.
For an 8th grader, she needs to be physically mature enough to compete at that level -- pediatrician or school doctor will make the determination on her physical exam. Next, this should be for an absolutely unreal talent and should never be the norm. And if the player has the opportunity, the team dynamics need to be looked at. Will girls be resentful, demeaning or will they bring in a young girl into the team and treat her like a teammate? As a parent, would I want my 13/14 year old hanging out with 17/18 year olds? Sports teams, at least in my town, get close and hang out with each other outside of school activities. My daughter & a classmate of hers played varsity as freshmen, and I was uneasy about it because of this (at least for my daughter). Luckily she was in a good situation where the senior captains were.
Finally, you have to look at what type of playing time will she get? Is the coach a good coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what is the rush for 7/8th graders to play high school ball. let them enjoy their middle school years. let them physcially mature.

My 8th grade daughter is better than the seniors on her team and deserves to play because she earned it. Same as a freshman starting in college. Nobody's spot should be guaranteed. You sound selfish and entitled

8th grade is 8th grade and not HS. I think they should have to at least be in high-school to play high-school. Keep training and then be the best when they play “varsity” in 9th grade. Or don’t stay back a year in the earlier years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I think there is a lot that has to be considered before bringing an 8th grader up to varsity. 7th grader, I say no way.
For an 8th grader, she needs to be physically mature enough to compete at that level -- pediatrician or school doctor will make the determination on her physical exam. Next, this should be for an absolutely unreal talent and should never be the norm. And if the player has the opportunity, the team dynamics need to be looked at. Will girls be resentful, demeaning or will they bring in a young girl into the team and treat her like a teammate? As a parent, would I want my 13/14 year old hanging out with 17/18 year olds? Sports teams, at least in my town, get close and hang out with each other outside of school activities. My daughter & a classmate of hers played varsity as freshmen, and I was uneasy about it because of this (at least for my daughter). Luckily she was in a good situation where the senior captains were.
Finally, you have to look at what type of playing time will she get? Is the coach a good coach?

Some great points here! There is both physical and social maturity to consider. If they are phenoms in 8th grade, they still will be in 9th. Best thing they ever did, was stop recruiting so young. That was ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what is the rush for 7/8th graders to play high school ball. let them enjoy their middle school years. let them physcially mature.

My 8th grade daughter is better than the seniors on her team and deserves to play because she earned it. Same as a freshman starting in college. Nobody's spot should be guaranteed. You sound selfish and entitled

absolutely let them play even if they are 7th graders. High school not PAL! stop giving everyone a trophy!
The best kids should play. Middle school sports are a joke!

Ok dad , if she’s in MS then have her play club and get better for when she actually gets to HS.

My daughter and her teammate went up to JV in 8th grade. Nice in between to cross into varsity. 9th grade they both played varsity. Both girls could have played in 7 or 8 on varsity. Personally I feel varsity should only be 9th grade minimum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Not the point. They are not in HS yet and therefore shouldn’t qualify to play in any HS sports. If they are physically caught up to 11/12th graders in 7/8 grade. Then makes me question if held back? If that’s the case, too bad and should have to wait until actually a HS student

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I agree. Even if they are good enough let them play with their class than they can move on a play 4 years with the HS team.

Totally agree. Should have to be in HS to play HS sports. For the MS kids there are very good LI club teams to be competetive on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Not the point. They are not in HS yet and therefore shouldn’t qualify to play in any HS sports. If they are physically caught up to 11/12th graders in 7/8 grade. Then makes me question if held back? If that’s the case, too bad and should have to wait until actually a HS student

Unfortunately you don't make the rules. Sounds like your resentful that your daughter is losing playing time to a 7th/8th grader who is a better player. Exactly the problem in this society. everyone should not get a trophy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Not the point. They are not in HS yet and therefore shouldn’t qualify to play in any HS sports. If they are physically caught up to 11/12th graders in 7/8 grade. Then makes me question if held back? If that’s the case, too bad and should have to wait until actually a HS student

Unfortunately you don't make the rules. Sounds like your resentful that your daughter is losing playing time to a 7th/8th grader who is a better player. Exactly the problem in this society. everyone should not get a trophy!

The problem with “this society” is parents living through their kids sports and making their kids grow up too fast. There is social growth that needs to happen as well. Lots of not so well adjusted kids out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

the spots arent "taken away"... they are there to be earned... perhaps the 7/8th graders are better than your daughter...

Not the point. They are not in HS yet and therefore shouldn’t qualify to play in any HS sports. If they are physically caught up to 11/12th graders in 7/8 grade. Then makes me question if held back? If that’s the case, too bad and should have to wait until actually a HS student

Unfortunately you don't make the rules. Sounds like your resentful that your daughter is losing playing time to a 7th/8th grader who is a better player. Exactly the problem in this society. everyone should not get a trophy!

so if a kid is a scratch golfer in 8th grade they shouldn't play varsity golf? What about a tennis player or gymnast who is nationally ranked as an 8th grader?
also there is a physical fitness test and approval from a dr. necessary in order to get brought up to HS from MS for player safety.
I'm sure if your child got offered a chance to play up you would've been okay with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I think there is a lot that has to be considered before bringing an 8th grader up to varsity. 7th grader, I say no way.
For an 8th grader, she needs to be physically mature enough to compete at that level -- pediatrician or school doctor will make the determination on her physical exam. Next, this should be for an absolutely unreal talent and should never be the norm. And if the player has the opportunity, the team dynamics need to be looked at. Will girls be resentful, demeaning or will they bring in a young girl into the team and treat her like a teammate? As a parent, would I want my 13/14 year old hanging out with 17/18 year olds? Sports teams, at least in my town, get close and hang out with each other outside of school activities. My daughter & a classmate of hers played varsity as freshmen, and I was uneasy about it because of this (at least for my daughter). Luckily she was in a good situation where the senior captains were.
Finally, you have to look at what type of playing time will she get? Is the coach a good coach?

Agreed.

Our daughter played JV basketball (starter) in 8th grade. She had been playing with the varsity girls in a summer league in 7th. Physically and skill wise, she was fine. Socially, I think she felt like an outsider, but she remained committed. (the girls were friendly enough, although I do believe a couple of them had some resentment which carried over to varsity.) Our daughter still opted to hang with the girls she played basketball with while in middle school. She ended up being a starter for every varsity game in 9th, so we think it was the right call.

In regards to lax, our school pulled up 3 8th graders to varsity. I don't think they get much playing time and based on others' opinions, 2 of them would have been better suited for JV. They just happened to have older siblings (who are good players) on varsity.

My daughter started as an 8th grader on Varsity. She was just about the same size and weight as her teammates. She had older sisters in college so the age thing wasn’t an issue. She didn’t hang out with the older kids on weekends but attended the pasta parties ,it didn’t make her any less of a teammate, knew her role and fulfilled it. Team made it to the County semifinals and lost to the eventual champion. Was fortunate enough to have a friend in 8th grade who was in the same boat join her on varsity. They both had no issues, overall good experience. No jealousy whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am very perplexed how Center Moriches girls own every stat on Long Island Stat sheet but are 4-3 with almost even of Goal differential. Seems Head coach is reporting every breath as a stat to help girls. ????

Help girls with what? High School Stats do not help with anything.

Look on boys hs forum they are complaining about the same thing. Obviously its a problem.

No, they should play golf, tennis, and gymnastics in their private clubs and on MS teams until they are actually in 9th grade! Go do club/private events. If they are phenoms in 8th grade, they will also be in 9th grade as well. There are plenty of competitive events outside of school to keep them honed until they can play Varsity sports in high-school. If all the kids did this, MS sports would be more competetive and on age

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I think there is a lot that has to be considered before bringing an 8th grader up to varsity. 7th grader, I say no way.
For an 8th grader, she needs to be physically mature enough to compete at that level -- pediatrician or school doctor will make the determination on her physical exam. Next, this should be for an absolutely unreal talent and should never be the norm. And if the player has the opportunity, the team dynamics need to be looked at. Will girls be resentful, demeaning or will they bring in a young girl into the team and treat her like a teammate? As a parent, would I want my 13/14 year old hanging out with 17/18 year olds? Sports teams, at least in my town, get close and hang out with each other outside of school activities. My daughter & a classmate of hers played varsity as freshmen, and I was uneasy about it because of this (at least for my daughter). Luckily she was in a good situation where the senior captains were.
Finally, you have to look at what type of playing time will she get? Is the coach a good coach?

Agreed.

Our daughter played JV basketball (starter) in 8th grade. She had been playing with the varsity girls in a summer league in 7th. Physically and skill wise, she was fine. Socially, I think she felt like an outsider, but she remained committed. (the girls were friendly enough, although I do believe a couple of them had some resentment which carried over to varsity.) Our daughter still opted to hang with the girls she played basketball with while in middle school. She ended up being a starter for every varsity game in 9th, so we think it was the right call.

In regards to lax, our school pulled up 3 8th graders to varsity. I don't think they get much playing time and based on others' opinions, 2 of them would have been better suited for JV. They just happened to have older siblings (who are good players) on varsity.

I have a crazy idea. How about we let parents of kids who get the opportunity to play up make a decision based on what they think is best for their child. If you're looking to a message board of a bunch of anonymous people to make a decision for your kid then I suggest you reevaluate.

the thing i don't understand is the kid doesn't even attend the high school? how are they playing for the high school? let them be kids, play with her friends and classmates. not a single person is going to get a college scholarship in 7/8th grade. Its for parents to get their ego stroked and tell their friends my kid plays Varsity lacrosse and she is in 7/8th grade. Just like the glorified stickers and magnets on cars stating which club your kid plays for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I agree. Even if they are good enough let them play with their class than they can move on a play 4 years with the HS team.

Totally agree. Should have to be in HS to play HS sports. For the MS kids there are very good LI club teams to be competetive on.

The opposite can also be said... if your HS daughter cant beat out a MS girl for a spot... there are still good LI club teams she can play on

In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the thing i don't understand is the kid doesn't even attend the high school? how are they playing for the high school? let them be kids, play with her friends and classmates. not a single person is going to get a college scholarship in 7/8th grade. Its for parents to get their ego stroked and tell their friends my kid plays Varsity lacrosse and she is in 7/8th grade. Just like the glorified stickers and magnets on cars stating which club your kid plays for.

why so focused on the High School... its an entire school district that is competing... why wouldnt you want your best performing players, regardless of age, performing at the highest level (ie - Varsity)?... is this too tough to digest for you people who think everyone should get a trophy? as mentioned previously, younger girls are not allowed to play varsity unless they pass testing indicating they are physically ready

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are you thoughts on 7/8 grade girls playing varsity? You already have a ton of girls in 9-12 grade that want to play lacrosse, why are you taking spots away from them for girls that don't even attend the high school yet.

I agree. Even if they are good enough let them play with their class than they can move on a play 4 years with the HS team.

Totally agree. Should have to be in HS to play HS sports. For the MS kids there are very good LI club teams to be competetive on.

The opposite can also be said... if your HS daughter cant beat out a MS girl for a spot... there are still good LI club teams she can play on

HS sports should be kept to High schoolers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the thing i don't understand is the kid doesn't even attend the high school? how are they playing for the high school? let them be kids, play with her friends and classmates. not a single person is going to get a college scholarship in 7/8th grade. Its for parents to get their ego stroked and tell their friends my kid plays Varsity lacrosse and she is in 7/8th grade. Just like the glorified stickers and magnets on cars stating which club your kid plays for.

My daughter wasn't pulled up with a scholarship in mind. Her skills just happened to surpass her peers. Moving her up wasn't taken lightly. We all ("we" as in us as her parents, the coaches, and the athletic director) felt we were doing her a disservice by having her play middle school in 8th grade. It's not about bragging rights (for us anyway). We feel our 8th grader could have held her own with the varsity team, but she was better served being a starter on JV as opposed to getting "some" playing time on varsity. Sometimes there are 8th grade kids who are better served being starters on varsity. Every kid and team is different and that all needs to be taken into consideration.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the thing i don't understand is the kid doesn't even attend the high school? how are they playing for the high school? let them be kids, play with her friends and classmates. not a single person is going to get a college scholarship in 7/8th grade. Its for parents to get their ego stroked and tell their friends my kid plays Varsity lacrosse and she is in 7/8th grade. Just like the glorified stickers and magnets on cars stating which club your kid plays for.

why so focused on the High School... its an entire school district that is competing... why wouldnt you want your best performing players, regardless of age, performing at the highest level (ie - Varsity)?... is this too tough to digest for you people who think everyone should get a trophy? as mentioned previously, younger girls are not allowed to play varsity unless they pass testing indicating they are physically ready

Some are scared the younger girls are better than their daughter. Rough lessons ahead with that mentality!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the thing i don't understand is the kid doesn't even attend the high school? how are they playing for the high school? let them be kids, play with her friends and classmates. not a single person is going to get a college scholarship in 7/8th grade. Its for parents to get their ego stroked and tell their friends my kid plays Varsity lacrosse and she is in 7/8th grade. Just like the glorified stickers and magnets on cars stating which club your kid plays for.

My daughter wasn't pulled up with a scholarship in mind. Her skills just happened to surpass her peers. Moving her up wasn't taken lightly. We all ("we" as in us as her parents, the coaches, and the athletic director) felt we were doing her a disservice by having her play middle school in 8th grade. It's not about bragging rights (for us anyway). We feel our 8th grader could have held her own with the varsity team, but she was better served being a starter on JV as opposed to getting "some" playing time on varsity. Sometimes there are 8th grade kids who are better served being starters on varsity. Every kid and team is different and that all needs to be taken into consideration.

There is a whole group of 8th graders in the same situation. Look at the top club teams. Those 8th graders could play up for sure and many do. If they were not allowed to, they all would have to stay and play on their MS teams making it more competitive situation for all the schools. The top girls would play each other in MS and move on to HS from there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the thing i don't understand is the kid doesn't even attend the high school? how are they playing for the high school? let them be kids, play with her friends and classmates. not a single person is going to get a college scholarship in 7/8th grade. Its for parents to get their ego stroked and tell their friends my kid plays Varsity lacrosse and she is in 7/8th grade. Just like the glorified stickers and magnets on cars stating which club your kid plays for.

why so focused on the High School... its an entire school district that is competing... why wouldnt you want your best performing players, regardless of age, performing at the highest level (ie - Varsity)?... is this too tough to digest for you people who think everyone should get a trophy? as mentioned previously, younger girls are not allowed to play varsity unless they pass testing indicating they are physically ready

Some are scared the younger girls are better than their daughter. Rough lessons ahead with that mentality!

Not the reason at all. If that’s the case they can prove it in 9th grade, in high-school on the high-school team. You are prob. More scared of losing bragging rights. You can still brag she’s the best in 8th grade with her playing MS and proving it on her club team against the other “best”

Every school situation is different. May even need to bring kids up to have enough for a team . So, I think let the schools, parents, districts decide what’s best

I also think you have to look at the town. My family is in a small school district where MS sports are made up of kids who are there to be babysat for an hour after school. The coaches are unqualified for the most part. In 7th grade the girls lax coach never played lax and didn't even take the time to do some research and learn. So in our case in made sense to take the opportunity to move up. For us it has worked out very well. My daughter learned a lot, and gained confidence, now she is committed and happy. I say to each his own on this subject. As an aside we have had some very bright students take a math class at the high school while in the middle school. One that I know of will be attending MIT. Should we have held him back from fulfilling his potential?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter started as an 8th grader on Varsity. She was just about the same size and weight as her teammates. She had older sisters in college so the age thing wasn’t an issue. She didn’t hang out with the older kids on weekends but attended the pasta parties ,it didn’t make her any less of a teammate, knew her role and fulfilled it. Team made it to the County semifinals and lost to the eventual champion. Was fortunate enough to have a friend in 8th grade who was in the same boat join her on varsity. They both had no issues, overall good experience. No jealousy whatsoever.

Almost identical scenario for my daughter. All good!

Just saw the second round of Under Armour All-Americans were announced. Congratulations!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter started as an 8th grader on Varsity. She was just about the same size and weight as her teammates. She had older sisters in college so the age thing wasn’t an issue. She didn’t hang out with the older kids on weekends but attended the pasta parties ,it didn’t make her any less of a teammate, knew her role and fulfilled it. Team made it to the County semifinals and lost to the eventual champion. Was fortunate enough to have a friend in 8th grade who was in the same boat join her on varsity. They both had no issues, overall good experience. No jealousy whatsoever.

Almost identical scenario for my daughter. All good!

Made this choice with our daughter, coaches, AD. Worked out awesome. Every situation is different, but don’t let the nay sayers discourage your decision, they are likely just deflecting because their daughter never had the option.

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

Painting with a pretty broad brush. The type of play that you describe is extremely ugly to watch but it exists at all grades. Selfish players can be found at every grade and they can come from every club. Not all HS coaches are created equal, there are some great HS coaches and there are some terrible HS coaches, most are simply average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

Painting with a pretty broad brush. The type of play that you describe is extremely ugly to watch but it exists at all grades. Selfish players can be found at every grade and they can come from every club. Not all HS coaches are created equal, there are some great HS coaches and there are some terrible HS coaches, most are simply average.

Perfectly stated!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

If the HS Varsity coach is allowing that, I’d say you have a bad coach. If a player, any player, can’t play for the benefit of the team, they should be on the bench until they can play for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

Perfectly stated. In multiple games we watched a young player play catch with goalie and turned the ball over trying to play hero ball every time she touched it. Looked silly and was talk of team sideline. When you are brought up you are to learn to be a team player with established players who know the plan, not be reckless so crazy mom and dad can feed their insta story and ego. Selfishness is what separates good players from exceptional players IMO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

Painting with a pretty broad brush. The type of play that you describe is extremely ugly to watch but it exists at all grades. Selfish players can be found at every grade and they can come from every club. Not all HS coaches are created equal, there are some great HS coaches and there are some terrible HS coaches, most are simply average.

Perfectly stated!

So, I guess if we look at the sat leaders, The ones who have more than 2/3 of their points from goals are the ones you're talking about. Looking at the names, seems about right. A deep team who distributes scoring from 4 or more girls and shouldn't even have names on the leader board. On the other hand, this type of behavior is promoted by the media and club coaches. Take coaches like JS constantly tweeting about how many goals his kids score. Many of these girls aspire to play on the senior UA team. Unfortunately, your not getting there without soring or assisting goals as an offensive player. Its a difficult situation, and not a simple as it appears. I always say it's how you play in the big games that define how good you are. When one girl scores most of the goals in a blow out, its pretty disgusting.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

If the HS Varsity coach is allowing that, I’d say you have a bad coach. If a player, any player, can’t play for the benefit of the team, they should be on the bench until they can play for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back

AMEN

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th graders on Varsity usually get the spot based on their club play and intense self-promotion from their parents. They tend to be ‘me first’, ‘go to goal’, stat padders. The Parents act like its Club and scream at the refs if anyone dares come near their little meal ticket. Most rush right to the net, even if their team is leading - they have no concept of settling the ball, maybe giving their D a rest before rushing a shot, again. Varsity is a team game and these 8th graders come from a certain club that promotes individual stats regardless of the game situation. We were in a close game and these girls could barely pass and catch around the perimeter - they just want to dodge and score a goal, risking a costly turnover, not kill time and get the win. This speaks to the differences in coaching at a Varsity level (trained educators) vs. Club (summer gig for College kids) - Club is designed to get kids into college by making highlight plays and showcasing individual talent. An 8th grader needs to have the maturity required to play Varsity lacrosse where they shelf their ego and recognize they are part of a team that needs to work together to win. Most 8th graders don’t know the difference and treat Varsity as an extension of their Club, where they are top banana and don’t really see a need to play defense, or ride, or do any of the little things that don’t show up on the scorecard. They just want to collect goals and assists so their parents can justify the decision and their club can promote them on Insta.

Painting with a pretty broad brush. The type of play that you describe is extremely ugly to watch but it exists at all grades. Selfish players can be found at every grade and they can come from every club. Not all HS coaches are created equal, there are some great HS coaches and there are some terrible HS coaches, most are simply average.

Perfectly stated!

So, I guess if we look at the sat leaders, The ones who have more than 2/3 of their points from goals are the ones you're talking about. Looking at the names, seems about right. A deep team who distributes scoring from 4 or more girls and shouldn't even have names on the leader board. On the other hand, this type of behavior is promoted by the media and club coaches. Take coaches like JS constantly tweeting about how many goals his kids score. Many of these girls aspire to play on the senior UA team. Unfortunately, your not getting there without soring or assisting goals as an offensive player. Its a difficult situation, and not a simple as it appears. I always say it's how you play in the big games that define how good you are. When one girl scores most of the goals in a blow out, its pretty disgusting.

Just my thoughts.... not every player who scorers a lot of goals is a selfish player. As for UA Senior Game selection , it is almost exclusively based on club / summer / UA underclass games etc... Parents are the real problem, I remember a post on here where someone said “sometimes you have to be selfish” and then the he referenced Michael Jordan. I would bet my life that the guy’s daughter is not the best player or even close. The girl at Carolina scores a lot of goals but from what I have seen she is not a selfish player. Parents who know nothing about the game or team sports in general can not quantify the value of any aspect of the game except goals.

So, I guess if we look at the sat leaders, The ones who have more than 2/3 of their points from goals are the ones you're talking about. Looking at the names, seems about right. A deep team who distributes scoring from 4 or more girls and shouldn't even have names on the leader board. On the other hand, this type of behavior is promoted by the media and club coaches. Take coaches like JS constantly tweeting about how many goals his kids score. Many of these girls aspire to play on the senior UA team. Unfortunately, your not getting there without soring or assisting goals as an offensive player. Its a difficult situation, and not a simple as it appears. I always say it's how you play in the big games that define how good you are. When one girl scores most of the goals in a blow out, its pretty disgusting.[/quote]

JS is the biggest carnival barker around. All he promotes is his own. Look at how many goals Stony Brook puts up against their weak America East competition, the scores are ridiculous: 20-4 against Lowell, 19-1 vs Hartford, 22-4 vs UNH. It's easy to keep the conference win streak alive when you're playing subpar teams each week. Good Luck against #1 UNC's defense, let's see if they can match their 7 goals scored from their week 1 loss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, I guess if we look at the sat leaders, The ones who have more than 2/3 of their points from goals are the ones you're talking about. Looking at the names, seems about right. A deep team who distributes scoring from 4 or more girls and shouldn't even have names on the leader board. On the other hand, this type of behavior is promoted by the media and club coaches. Take coaches like JS constantly tweeting about how many goals his kids score. Many of these girls aspire to play on the senior UA team. Unfortunately, your not getting there without soring or assisting goals as an offensive player. Its a difficult situation, and not a simple as it appears. I always say it's how you play in the big games that define how good you are. When one girl scores most of the goals in a blow out, its pretty disgusting.

JS is the biggest carnival barker around. All he promotes is his own. Look at how many goals Stony Brook puts up against their weak America East competition, the scores are ridiculous: 20-4 against Lowell, 19-1 vs Hartford, 22-4 vs UNH. It's easy to keep the conference win streak alive when you're playing subpar teams each week. Good Luck against #1 UNC's defense, let's see if they can match their 7 goals scored from their week 1 loss.[/quote]

Carnival barker 😂😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

They would lose to BBP, Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Babylon, Manhasset, Wantagh would run them off the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, I guess if we look at the sat leaders, The ones who have more than 2/3 of their points from goals are the ones you're talking about. Looking at the names, seems about right. A deep team who distributes scoring from 4 or more girls and shouldn't even have names on the leader board. On the other hand, this type of behavior is promoted by the media and club coaches. Take coaches like JS constantly tweeting about how many goals his kids score. Many of these girls aspire to play on the senior UA team. Unfortunately, your not getting there without soring or assisting goals as an offensive player. Its a difficult situation, and not a simple as it appears. I always say it's how you play in the big games that define how good you are. When one girl scores most of the goals in a blow out, its pretty disgusting.

JS is the biggest carnival barker around. All he promotes is his own. Look at how many goals Stony Brook puts up against their weak America East competition, the scores are ridiculous: 20-4 against Lowell, 19-1 vs Hartford, 22-4 vs UNH. It's easy to keep the conference win streak alive when you're playing subpar teams each week. Good Luck against #1 UNC's defense, let's see if they can match their 7 goals scored from their week 1 loss.[/quote]

UNC has some big ball hogs, especially the LI girl. But I guess at the end of the day, you need to score points to win. I would be interested in the shot percentage as well as the amount of turnovers to assess the quality of the player.

If your HS age daughter can’t throw and catch, can’t run a mile in under 8:11 (I think that’s the time required by NYS to play HS sports as a MS athlete) or pass the other parts of the Advanced placement test, you shouldn’t be on here whining about lack of playing time or anything else. You should step back. Assess the situation and how can you help support your daughter to be better. That’s it. Be supportive. Ultimately your daughter will decide what type of player she is no matter what you post on here, what travel team she plays on or who she trains with. So again, I say be supportive and encouraging because it’s a great life lesson to take nothing for granted, your entitle to nothing and to work hard for what you want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, I guess if we look at the sat leaders, The ones who have more than 2/3 of their points from goals are the ones you're talking about. Looking at the names, seems about right. A deep team who distributes scoring from 4 or more girls and shouldn't even have names on the leader board. On the other hand, this type of behavior is promoted by the media and club coaches. Take coaches like JS constantly tweeting about how many goals his kids score. Many of these girls aspire to play on the senior UA team. Unfortunately, your not getting there without soring or assisting goals as an offensive player. Its a difficult situation, and not a simple as it appears. I always say it's how you play in the big games that define how good you are. When one girl scores most of the goals in a blow out, its pretty disgusting.

JS is the biggest carnival barker around. All he promotes is his own. Look at how many goals Stony Brook puts up against their weak America East competition, the scores are ridiculous: 20-4 against Lowell, 19-1 vs Hartford, 22-4 vs UNH. It's easy to keep the conference win streak alive when you're playing subpar teams each week. Good Luck against #1 UNC's defense, let's see if they can match their 7 goals scored from their week 1 loss.

UNC has some big ball hogs, especially the LI girl. But I guess at the end of the day, you need to score points to win. I would be interested in the shot percentage as well as the amount of turnovers to assess the quality of the player.[/quote]

Yeah, okay. Time to buy a clue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

They would lose to BBP, Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Babylon, Manhasset, Wantagh would run them off the field.

So CR has that much pull with US Lacrosse that they blindly rank her team #2 in the country?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

They would lose to BBP, Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Babylon, Manhasset, Wantagh would run them off the field.

So CR has that much pull with US Lacrosse that they blindly rank her team #2 in the country?

There is no powerhouse team from the big schools ( based on attendance ) on LI this year, Nassau or Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

They would lose to BBP, Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Babylon, Manhasset, Wantagh would run them off the field.

So CR has that much pull with US Lacrosse that they blindly rank her team #2 in the country?

We'll soon find out. They're about to play a finally healthy Smithtown East (UMD commit should be back, along with a starting senior defender and goalie). We'll know more about the "#2 team" in the country after that.

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

They would lose to BBP, Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Babylon, Manhasset, Wantagh would run them off the field.

Don't forget GC!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

They would lose to BBP, Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Babylon, Manhasset, Wantagh would run them off the field.

Don't forget GC!

Who's the clown that does the rankings for the Northeast then? I'm pretty sure New Canaan, CT isn't better than any of those teams either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

I guess all of those girls at UNC and Northwestern must know people. They certainly couldn’t be there because of their ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

Not all D1 commits are equal. Big difference between the majority of players who receive offers from Top 10 - 15 type programs and the rest of the D1 field. The reason it always seems to be the same teams in the Top 10 - 15 is because they consistently bring in the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

The two leader Tewaaraton nominees, Scane and North come from non-hotbeds and did not play for a big name club. Go figure?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]In what world is Northport the 2nd best team in the country? They hardly play any of the other good teams. Are they even in the top 3-4 teams on LI?

They would lose to BBP, Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Babylon, Manhasset, Wantagh would run them off the field.

So CR has that much pull with US Lacrosse that they blindly rank her team #2 in the country?

We'll soon find out. They're about to play a finally healthy Smithtown East (UMD commit should be back, along with a starting senior defender and goalie). We'll know more about the "#2 team" in the country after that.

Northport by 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

The two leader Tewaaraton nominees, Scane and North come from non-hotbeds and did not play for a big name club. Go figure?

And both were Ranked Inside Lacrosse Top 40 Young Gun Seniors, both were named UA Senior All-American and both were obviously recruited by Top Tier Programs. They must have known a lot of people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

The players make the club what it is. YJ is the best club because they have the best players not the other way around. All the credit goes to the girls and their hard work. A great player will be recruited no matter what club she plays for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

The players make the club what it is. YJ is the best club because they have the best players not the other way around. All the credit goes to the girls and their hard work. A great player will be recruited no matter what club she plays for.

That is correct. The college coaches at the top programs know what they are looking for and for the most part fight it out among themselves for the best players. The Top 10 - 15 college programs are a fairly diverse group of schools: Large State Universities, Top Private Universities including a couple of Ivy’s, Southern Schools, New England, Midwestern, Mid Atlantic, City, Suburban etc... throw in USC and Stanford and the Top recruits pretty much can find the right fit without having to go outside the top programs. It’s not the club, it’s not the HS or club coach, it’s not the parents the neighbor or the uncle. It’s the player and the college coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

The players make the club what it is. YJ is the best club because they have the best players not the other way around. All the credit goes to the girls and their hard work. A great player will be recruited no matter what club she plays for.

That is correct. The college coaches at the top programs know what they are looking for and for the most part fight it out among themselves for the best players. The Top 10 - 15 college programs are a fairly diverse group of schools: Large State Universities, Top Private Universities including a couple of Ivy’s, Southern Schools, New England, Midwestern, Mid Atlantic, City, Suburban etc... throw in USC and Stanford and the Top recruits pretty much can find the right fit without having to go outside the top programs. It’s not the club, it’s not the HS or club coach, it’s not the parents the neighbor or the uncle. It’s the player and the college coach.

I think the The club is a huge factor! Early on, the player needs to be on a club that offers good training and dedicated coaching to get the skills and IQ necessary to become a great player! Need more than PAL parent coaching. Some of them are great, but others not really trained at teaching the game. Know some girls who stayed on a club that was terrible with training and did not have team dedicated coaching. Those girls ended up being way behind in skills and IQ when they got to MS to play. Kind of late to be playing catch up. The other clubs kids were well trained and coached. So, clubs do play a big role in becoming a great player that the top colleges will look at.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Rose has pull with anything girls lacrosse. She has done an amazing job promoting it and runs a top girls lacrosse travel program. She wins at all levels. Girls playing this weekend are alumni of both her Hs and her travel program. This year she might win in HS but even she would admit it’s a down year for Northport. Lock off the Duke commit and who scores? All the posts on this site about disproportionate point hoarding should start here. Great shooter & goal scorer off a free position but she’s not a great player.

Coach Rose should have no problem acknowledging all the talent in other towns, she has most of them playing in her travel program. So while her Northport team might not win, how many YJ girls will make the UA teams? She still wins. Hence Pull.

Lacrosse is very much about who you know and has very little to do with amount of skill and what you know. It’s unfortunate but that’s how it is.

Really, I think all the D1 commits have plenty of skill? It also helps if you play for an organization that promotes itself as being one of the top organizations, and then produces some of the top players in the country. Doing something right

The players make the club what it is. YJ is the best club because they have the best players not the other way around. All the credit goes to the girls and their hard work. A great player will be recruited no matter what club she plays for.

That is correct. The college coaches at the top programs know what they are looking for and for the most part fight it out among themselves for the best players. The Top 10 - 15 college programs are a fairly diverse group of schools: Large State Universities, Top Private Universities including a couple of Ivy’s, Southern Schools, New England, Midwestern, Mid Atlantic, City, Suburban etc... throw in USC and Stanford and the Top recruits pretty much can find the right fit without having to go outside the top programs. It’s not the club, it’s not the HS or club coach, it’s not the parents the neighbor or the uncle. It’s the player and the college coach.

I think the The club is a huge factor! Early on, the player needs to be on a club that offers good training and dedicated coaching to get the skills and IQ necessary to become a great player! Need more than PAL parent coaching. Some of them are great, but others not really trained at teaching the game. Know some girls who stayed on a club that was terrible with training and did not have team dedicated coaching. Those girls ended up being way behind in skills and IQ when they got to MS to play. Kind of late to be playing catch up. The other clubs kids were well trained and coached. So, clubs do play a big role in becoming a great player that the top colleges will look at.

I think you are missing the point. The top clubs select the best athletes / players for their top teams much the same way the top college coaches make offers to the top players. Nobody is saying that you don’t have to play club.

Does anyone know if the NYS regional event is a recruiting event? Do college coach’s attend it? Did college coach’s attend empire games, when they were doing them? Thanks.

It is funny that you mention this because you must take into account roster and school size. Center Moriches has a total of 8 girls committed to college so far out of their small roster of about 17. Obviously with a small roster girls will be on the field more, bringing their stats up versus someone at a bigger school, with a more well known program who would have to fight for a spot on the field. the reason CM dominates all of the charts is because of the dedication of all of the girls up and down the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is funny that you mention this because you must take into account roster and school size. Center Moriches has a total of 8 girls committed to college so far out of their small roster of about 17. Obviously with a small roster girls will be on the field more, bringing their stats up versus someone at a bigger school, with a more well known program who would have to fight for a spot on the field. the reason CM dominates all of the charts is because of the dedication of all of the girls up and down the field

But they lose to any mediocre team, so what do the stats even mean?🤷‍♀️

From the Boys HS thread. Could easily be speaking to the Girls Parents too - the few are ruining it for the many:

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is funny that you mention this because you must take into account roster and school size. Center Moriches has a total of 8 girls committed to college so far out of their small roster of about 17. Obviously with a small roster girls will be on the field more, bringing their stats up versus someone at a bigger school, with a more well known program who would have to fight for a spot on the field. the reason CM dominates all of the charts is because of the dedication of all of the girls up and down the field

But they lose to any mediocre team, so what do the stats even mean?🤷‍♀️

True. If CM played any competitive team, The "Chart dominators" would be shut down real quick. You need to relax. Let me know about the stats after you play SWR, the only somewhat competitive team on your schedule.

Seems like top 4 or 5 Suffolk point leaders all have same game multiple times adding to total points. I hope that gets corrected.

So when CM is #1 in their league, and have only lost to teams ranked much higher (Rocky Point, Sayville, Comsewogue, and West Islip) .... your point is what exactly? When CM wins LIC's then talk to me

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Boys HS thread. Could easily be speaking to the Girls Parents too - the few are ruining it for the many:

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

This year the reffing quality is at an all time low, likely leading to frustration on all ends (players, parents coaches and refs). When the refs start to lose control the girls get frustrated and start taking shots at each other. With Covid and the condensed season (frequent games) the ref numbers are spread thin, causing many new and JV refs (with little experience) to be brought up to ref important games that are usually assigned to the more experienced refs. The speed on the game overwhelms the less experienced ref. and they lose control or the game. Also I have witnessed many of these inexperienced refs being overly sensitive to moans and groans that veteran refs ignore (not referring to the outright comments because those are unnecessary, but the moans ("What" and "Awe" and "Man') the crowds make when a questionable call is made) , and getting the refs are getting flustered very easily and their inexperience shows even more. The parents who outright say stuff need to stop, and the refs need to grow a thicker skin as well. You never see the Maureen (Blonde ref) lose her cool or allow spectators get her flustered. Others need to follow her lead.

CM is in a league with three other schools (Mattituck, Babylon and Port Jeff) congratulations on 1st place! I bet that was a lot of hard work! Do you even have a .500 record? Do any of those teams? Not trying to take anything away from anyone but you only have to win one game to get to the LIC... counties! Very different for every other classification.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CM is in a league with three other schools (Mattituck, Babylon and Port Jeff) congratulations on 1st place! I bet that was a lot of hard work! Do you even have a .500 record? Do any of those teams? Not trying to take anything away from anyone but you only have to win one game to get to the LIC... counties! Very different for every other classification.

If your not taking anything away from them, why would you write the comment "i bet that was a lot of work". It has been a very competitive year throughout Division 2, congrats to all the girls on all teams for getting their season in, that in itself is a win, given the level of restrictions placed on our athletes all year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when CM is #1 in their league, and have only lost to teams ranked much higher (Rocky Point, Sayville, Comsewogue, and West Islip) .... your point is what exactly? When CM wins LIC's then talk to me

Hahahaha...would be blown out by pretty much every other team on LI. Enjoy living in your bubble, but don't pretend to be something that your not. Your in the PAL B division, your "stats" are meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Boys HS thread. Could easily be speaking to the Girls Parents too - the few are ruining it for the many:

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

This year the reffing quality is at an all time low, likely leading to frustration on all ends (players, parents coaches and refs). When the refs start to lose control the girls get frustrated and start taking shots at each other. With Covid and the condensed season (frequent games) the ref numbers are spread thin, causing many new and JV refs (with little experience) to be brought up to ref important games that are usually assigned to the more experienced refs. The speed on the game overwhelms the less experienced ref. and they lose control or the game. Also I have witnessed many of these inexperienced refs being overly sensitive to moans and groans that veteran refs ignore (not referring to the outright comments because those are unnecessary, but the moans ("What" and "Awe" and "Man') the crowds make when a questionable call is made) , and getting the refs are getting flustered very easily and their inexperience shows even more. The parents who outright say stuff need to stop, and the refs need to grow a thicker skin as well. You never see the Maureen (Blonde ref) lose her cool or allow spectators get her flustered. Others need to follow her lead.

Flopping and goggle dropping at an all time high! But keep missing hits to the head!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like top 4 or 5 Suffolk point leaders all have same game multiple times adding to total points. I hope that gets corrected.

West Babylon posted 14 assists as a team but only scored 13 points. They also have Mattituck listed as playing them twice. Padding stats?

Who is pretending to be something that they are not? Acknowledge the fact that CM lacrosse is a different team and program than it was years ago, the level of talent increased, and so did their level of competition. There are different divisions for a reason. Respect that and respect the players hard work.

They do not have to win just one game. They like every other team in every other division need to beat the teams in their league and alongside doing that need to win other games for power point ranking.

I am so glad you have the time to worry about correctly identifying and looking up who is in CM's league! No one can take away the fact that they are number one and have stood their ground this entire season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when CM is #1 in their league, and have only lost to teams ranked much higher (Rocky Point, Sayville, Comsewogue, and West Islip) .... your point is what exactly? When CM wins LIC's then talk to me

Hahahaha...would be blown out by pretty much every other team on LI. Enjoy living in your bubble, but don't pretend to be something that your not. Your in the PAL B division, your "stats" are meaningless.

Playing nobody gets you nowhere and no respect. Nothing else to say.

Is Floyd an upcoming team or a flash in the pan?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when CM is #1 in their league, and have only lost to teams ranked much higher (Rocky Point, Sayville, Comsewogue, and West Islip) .... your point is what exactly? When CM wins LIC's then talk to me

Hahahaha...would be blown out by pretty much every other team on LI. Enjoy living in your bubble, but don't pretend to be something that your not. Your in the PAL B division, your "stats" are meaningless.

Playing nobody gets you nowhere and no respect. Nothing else to say.

That what i want to say to our coach too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Floyd an upcoming team or a flash in the pan?

has one of the best draw girls in county

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Boys HS thread. Could easily be speaking to the Girls Parents too - the few are ruining it for the many:

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

This year the reffing quality is at an all time low, likely leading to frustration on all ends (players, parents coaches and refs). When the refs start to lose control the girls get frustrated and start taking shots at each other. With Covid and the condensed season (frequent games) the ref numbers are spread thin, causing many new and JV refs (with little experience) to be brought up to ref important games that are usually assigned to the more experienced refs. The speed on the game overwhelms the less experienced ref. and they lose control or the game. Also I have witnessed many of these inexperienced refs being overly sensitive to moans and groans that veteran refs ignore (not referring to the outright comments because those are unnecessary, but the moans ("What" and "Awe" and "Man') the crowds make when a questionable call is made) , and getting the refs are getting flustered very easily and their inexperience shows even more. The parents who outright say stuff need to stop, and the refs need to grow a thicker skin as well. You never see the Maureen (Blonde ref) lose her cool or allow spectators get her flustered. Others need to follow her lead.

Last night the RP coach was yapping at the refs about what he thought was a missed call and Maureen (pretty sure it was her) decided that was a good time to call an RP girl for wearing something on her wrist and they had to turn the ball over. Got her point across without having to say a word and shut him up for a while. Had to laugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Boys HS thread. Could easily be speaking to the Girls Parents too - the few are ruining it for the many:

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

This year the reffing quality is at an all time low, likely leading to frustration on all ends (players, parents coaches and refs). When the refs start to lose control the girls get frustrated and start taking shots at each other. With Covid and the condensed season (frequent games) the ref numbers are spread thin, causing many new and JV refs (with little experience) to be brought up to ref important games that are usually assigned to the more experienced refs. The speed on the game overwhelms the less experienced ref. and they lose control or the game. Also I have witnessed many of these inexperienced refs being overly sensitive to moans and groans that veteran refs ignore (not referring to the outright comments because those are unnecessary, but the moans ("What" and "Awe" and "Man') the crowds make when a questionable call is made) , and getting the refs are getting flustered very easily and their inexperience shows even more. The parents who outright say stuff need to stop, and the refs need to grow a thicker skin as well. You never see the Maureen (Blonde ref) lose her cool or allow spectators get her flustered. Others need to follow her lead.

Last night the RP coach was yapping at the refs about what he thought was a missed call and Maureen (pretty sure it was her) decided that was a good time to call an RP girl for wearing something on her wrist and they had to turn the ball over. Got her point across without having to say a word and shut him up for a while. Had to laugh.

Great job Maureen!!

I have watched a lot of lacrosse over the years and Floyd may have one of the best all around players in the county, maybe Long Island. The kid dominated us and was a pleasure to watch even though we lost. As long as that kid is on the field Floyd has a chance to win any game.

[quote=Anonymous]I have watched a lot of lacrosse over the years and Floyd may have one of the best all around players in the county, maybe Long Island. The kid dominated us and was a pleasure to watch even though we lost. As long as that kid is on the field Floyd has a chance to win any game.

Was she on the field against Northport?

CM has been last in their league ever since the program had started. Stop hating now that they're actually winning games. Stats are stats and the girls earned every point that they got.

I have seen her play as well and she is very good!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I have watched a lot of lacrosse over the years and Floyd may have one of the best all around players in the county, maybe Long Island. The kid dominated us and was a pleasure to watch even though we lost. As long as that kid is on the field Floyd has a chance to win any game.

Was she on the field against Northport?

Yes, in the box score, as well Commack, two of the better schools they play.

Stats can be very misleading. A player needs to pass the eye test. Some teams will have a player or two that jump out at you watching the game. They show off speed, quickness, athleticism, grit, hustle, IQ, skill and typically are accompanied with good stat lines. Top players jump off the page in a game, just watching them, the eye test. I will not identify teams or players, but not all of current stat leaders pass the simple eye test watching them play. Some of the opponents are so over matched, an average player versing these weak teams can rack up a months worth of points in a single game. Some teams play a ridiculously tough schedule and points are impossible to come by, and other teams play ridiculously weak schedule and points are for the taking. Add in strong teams need to share the ball among several strong players. Wanna know who the top players are? Do not look at the stats, look at the college commitments, the college coaches have done the work for you.

What grade is she in?

If you are not her parent it is troubling that you are following her box scores as closely as you are.

I agree, that kid is exceptional. Did the same against us.

Not sure, I believe she is young. Maybe 9th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats can be very misleading. A player needs to pass the eye test. Some teams will have a player or two that jump out at you watching the game. They show off speed, quickness, athleticism, grit, hustle, IQ, skill and typically are accompanied with good stat lines. Top players jump off the page in a game, just watching them, the eye test. I will not identify teams or players, but not all of current stat leaders pass the simple eye test watching them play. Some of the opponents are so over matched, an average player versing these weak teams can rack up a months worth of points in a single game. Some teams play a ridiculously tough schedule and points are impossible to come by, and other teams play ridiculously weak schedule and points are for the taking. Add in strong teams need to share the ball among several strong players. Wanna know who the top players are? Do not look at the stats, look at the college commitments, the college coaches have done the work for you.

HS Stats really are irrelevant, “ridiculously tough schedule” is a bit of a stretch though. Many teams have 8th and 9th graders starting along with players who will not play in college or they will play at a non-competitive level in college.

I do agree with you in terms of “College Commitments & College Coaches”. The Coaches at the Top College Programs do a very good job at identifying the best players. For the most part the best coaches at the best programs consistently identify and bring in the top HS players.

When all is said and done, the recruiting process is probably the most accurate barometer of how a player stacks up and where a player stands in relation to other players.

What schools are making offers?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What grade is she in?

freshman who plays up on TG team 2023

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are not her parent it is troubling that you are following her box scores as closely as you are.

If you’re going to brag about your daughter, people might what to see the evidence. What you do against top teams is very revealing. I agree that box scores don’t tell all. And sometimes a girl could have an off game, but they do give you a good idea when you look at how someone performs against different levels of competition since Suffolk has some very good teams, some average teams and a lot of extremely weak teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Boys HS thread. Could easily be speaking to the Girls Parents too - the few are ruining it for the many:

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

This year the reffing quality is at an all time low, likely leading to frustration on all ends (players, parents coaches and refs). When the refs start to lose control the girls get frustrated and start taking shots at each other. With Covid and the condensed season (frequent games) the ref numbers are spread thin, causing many new and JV refs (with little experience) to be brought up to ref important games that are usually assigned to the more experienced refs. The speed on the game overwhelms the less experienced ref. and they lose control or the game. Also I have witnessed many of these inexperienced refs being overly sensitive to moans and groans that veteran refs ignore (not referring to the outright comments because those are unnecessary, but the moans ("What" and "Awe" and "Man') the crowds make when a questionable call is made) , and getting the refs are getting flustered very easily and their inexperience shows even more. The parents who outright say stuff need to stop, and the refs need to grow a thicker skin as well. You never see the Maureen (Blonde ref) lose her cool or allow spectators get her flustered. Others need to follow her lead.

Last night the RP coach was yapping at the refs about what he thought was a missed call and Maureen (pretty sure it was her) decided that was a good time to call an RP girl for wearing something on her wrist and they had to turn the ball over. Got her point across without having to say a word and shut him up for a while. Had to laugh.

She is professional and does a great job! Love it. Besides her game officiating she does a great job on educating the girls (and coaches) as well before during and after games, mostly in the early part of the season. She truly helps grow the game.

Maureen is one of the best and hardest working refs out there.

Who has the best chance to beat Bayport this season? Or will they run the table?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has the best chance to beat Bayport this season? Or will they run the table?

At the beginning of the season the answer would have been sayvile, but they lost their two top juniors offensively for the season, talented team but do not have the depth to deal with that loss of players.
Never count Mt Sanai out, I know they had their butts handed to them by bayport regular season, Although Mt Sinai is a down year, Bert always finds a way to compete with Bayport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure, I believe she is young. Maybe 9th grade.

She is in 9th grade. She is a very talented player.

“Somewhat competitive” SWR beat CM and their 8 college commits 16-8.

Let’s stop the stat talk.

And SWR played a field player in goal! Goalies is away

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“Somewhat competitive” SWR beat CM and their 8 college commits 16-8.

Let’s stop the stat talk.

Exactly! Maybe CM will quiet it down now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has the best chance to beat Bayport this season? Or will they run the table?

At the beginning of the season the answer would have been sayvile, but they lost their two top juniors offensively for the season, talented team but do not have the depth to deal with that loss of players.
Never count Mt Sanai out, I know they had their butts handed to them by bayport regular season, Although Mt Sinai is a down year, Bert always finds a way to compete with Bayport.

Too bad he didn’t find a way to beat Sayville.
Ouch Sayville wins 11-7 . They aren’t even close games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And SWR played a field player in goal! Goalies is away

Same girl was in net vs Sayville and SWR lost by 1. Sayville starting 5 over hyped D1 commits vs SWRs 2. Lol. Nice BTB goal from the PSU commit on a field player playing goal. Get a grip people. SWR is pretty good. I hope they make playoffs and ruin all your seasons.

They pulled their starters mid way thru second half today and emptied the bench. Probably could have won by 20 if they left them in.

Easy there shoreham parent is this the same shoreham team that lost to Mount Sinai, Eastport and Rocky point!! Oh and by the way Sayville beat all those teams!! So slow your roll!!!

Their goalie was not a field player...
They put their backup goalie on the field. Why would you comment that when you are blatantly wrong?

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

LOL, CM still runs the stat leader board!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

CM has to beat Port Jeff to win D. Winner gets throttled by CSH in the LIC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

CM needs to calm down. You get doubled by any halfway decent team. Your tough talk is actually hysterical!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Nor should they, town wins at everything football, Soccer, Baseball and lax.

Not this year!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Nor should they, town wins at everything football, Soccer, Baseball and lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Nor should they, town wins at everything football, Soccer, Baseball and lax.

LOL... it’s been almost a decade since the school has been relevant in Glax

So West Bab blows out SWR, while CM blows out a 5th grade pal team while stat padding the whole time. Have some dignity. Both these teams are irrelevant. Such selfish play by both. Grow up, you are both not competitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Nor should they, town wins at everything football, Soccer, Baseball and lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Nor should they, town wins at everything football, Soccer, Baseball and lax.

LOL... it’s been almost a decade since the school has been relevant in Glax

SWR lost to Kings Park

I had no idea Kings Park even had a varsity program

SWR has -3, 11 and 26 on offense. I didn’t see 11 and 26 in the game and 3 was faceguarded the whole game and got limited touches. Amazing that’s the same team that lost to Mt Sinai and Sayville by 1.

Looks like YJ, TG, Jesters 23s are tearing it up on there HS teams! Great recruiting class coming! #wantagh, north shore, SWR, WBab, Pequa, Smithtown,MC, Northport. Let’s go girls!

Best player in college lacrosse grew up in Texas along with the national championship goal tender. Take that in folks. Congrats to BC and Charlotte North who should win the Tewaaraton.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best player in college lacrosse grew up in Texas along with the national championship goal tender. Take that in folks. Congrats to BC and Charlotte North who should win the Tewaaraton.

Will win, no question there. Sorry YJs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR has -3, 11 and 26 on offense. I didn’t see 11 and 26 in the game and 3 was faceguarded the whole game and got limited touches. Amazing that’s the same team that lost to Mt Sinai and Sayville by 1.

Please stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best player in college lacrosse grew up in Texas along with the national championship goal tender. Take that in folks. Congrats to BC and Charlotte North who should win the Tewaaraton.

Will win, no question there. Sorry YJs

North is an awesome basketball player so that proves that basketball is a close cousin to Lacrosse.
Rachel Hall grew up in NY state with a big brother who played and always used her for shooting practice. She went to HS in TX.

100% agree about the TX comment. Also many LI girls on both rosters Cuse and BC.... impressive! Otherwise, congrats to kids, parents, and schools!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has the best chance to beat Bayport this season? Or will they run the table?

At the beginning of the season the answer would have been sayvile, but they lost their two top juniors offensively for the season, talented team but do not have the depth to deal with that loss of players.
Never count Mt Sanai out, I know they had their butts handed to them by bayport regular season, Although Mt Sinai is a down year, Bert always finds a way to compete with Bayport.

The limiting factor is practices this year. I'm sure that Bert could find a way to make trouble for Bayport. I only doubt he could put it in and get it working in time because of the limited number of practices.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has the best chance to beat Bayport this season? Or will they run the table?

At the beginning of the season the answer would have been sayvile, but they lost their two top juniors offensively for the season, talented team but do not have the depth to deal with that loss of players.
Never count Mt Sanai out, I know they had their butts handed to them by bayport regular season, Although Mt Sinai is a down year, Bert always finds a way to compete with Bayport.

The limiting factor is practices this year. I'm sure that Bert could find a way to make trouble for Bayport. I only doubt he could put it in and get it working in time because of the limited number of practices.

MS had no fewer practices than any other team they played.

Stats are unreal. They don’t seem to add up on hardly any team correctly. Also, depends on competition. Play easy teams and easy to rack up stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Nor should they, town wins at everything football, Soccer, Baseball and lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

Nor should they, town wins at everything football, Soccer, Baseball and lax.

LOL... it’s been almost a decade since the school has been relevant in Glax

SWR lost to Kings Park

I had no idea Kings Park even had a varsity program

wow thats a bad loss

Our Commack team was overmatched today by SE. Although twe dominated draws, couldn't execute. SE a good team, but looked very selfish, which will cost them. One girl tries to run though everyone without passing to other open girls, and turned the ball over about 10x. Seems like selfishness is a problem on many teams that in the long run wind up dividing the team and ending a season. Our team is guilty of the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our Commack team was overmatched today by SE. Although twe dominated draws, couldn't execute. SE a good team, but looked very selfish, which will cost them. One girl tries to run though everyone without passing to other open girls, and turned the ball over about 10x. Seems like selfishness is a problem on many teams that in the long run wind up dividing the team and ending a season. Our team is guilty of the same.

I think we know that player. Small kid, never met a shot she didn’t take and makes a habit of turning the ball over. Our team has one too, these kids would make great tennis players, but they make terrible teammates. It’s a coaching problem, those girls should ride the bench until they learn to play as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has the best chance to beat Bayport this season? Or will they run the table?

At the beginning of the season the answer would have been sayvile, but they lost their two top juniors offensively for the season, talented team but do not have the depth to deal with that loss of players.
Never count Mt Sanai out, I know they had their butts handed to them by bayport regular season, Although Mt Sinai is a down year, Bert always finds a way to compete with Bayport.

The limiting factor is practices this year. I'm sure that Bert could find a way to make trouble for Bayport. I only doubt he could put it in and get it working in time because of the limited number of practices.

MS had no fewer practices than any other team they played.

The OP was "Bert always finds a way to compete with Bayport."

The follow-up said he probably doesn't have enough practice time to come up with something.

This means, in a normal year Bert would pull a rabbit out of his hat and "compete with Bayport", but this year he can't "because of the limited number of practices."

Try to keep up, Skippy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our Commack team was overmatched today by SE. Although twe dominated draws, couldn't execute. SE a good team, but looked very selfish, which will cost them. One girl tries to run though everyone without passing to other open girls, and turned the ball over about 10x. Seems like selfishness is a problem on many teams that in the long run wind up dividing the team and ending a season. Our team is guilty of the same.

I think we know that player. Small kid, never met a shot she didn’t take and makes a habit of turning the ball over. Our team has one too, these kids would make great tennis players, but they make terrible teammates. It’s a coaching problem, those girls should ride the bench until they learn to play as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our Commack team was overmatched today by SE. Although twe dominated draws, couldn't execute. SE a good team, but looked very selfish, which will cost them. One girl tries to run though everyone without passing to other open girls, and turned the ball over about 10x. Seems like selfishness is a problem on many teams that in the long run wind up dividing the team and ending a season. Our team is guilty of the same.

I think we know that player. Small kid, never met a shot she didn’t take and makes a habit of turning the ball over. Our team has one too, these kids would make great tennis players, but they make terrible teammates. It’s a coaching problem, those girls should ride the bench until they learn to play as a team.

Yep! Coaching problem. You let the ball hog/stat hog pull that garbage and not pull them, team goes down eventually. Selfish play is the downfall and it’s on the coach!

What class is rocky point and westhampton in?
B or C

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What class is rocky point and westhampton in?
B or C

B

we 100% realize, hopefully it works and they start moving the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our Commack team was overmatched today by SE. Although twe dominated draws, couldn't execute. SE a good team, but looked very selfish, which will cost them. One girl tries to run though everyone without passing to other open girls, and turned the ball over about 10x. Seems like selfishness is a problem on many teams that in the long run wind up dividing the team and ending a season. Our team is guilty of the same.

I think we know that player. Small kid, never met a shot she didn’t take and makes a habit of turning the ball over. Our team has one too, these kids would make great tennis players, but they make terrible teammates. It’s a coaching problem, those girls should ride the bench until they learn to play as a team.

Yep! Coaching problem. You let the ball hog/stat hog pull that garbage and not pull them, team goes down eventually. Selfish play is the downfall and it’s on the coach!

Team doesn’t always “go down”, but this is a problem on West Bab, Northport, Middle Country, Hills as well just name a few. Not an isolated problem. Too much emphasis is put on points, this is driven by social media.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

CM needs to calm down. You get doubled by any halfway decent team. Your tough talk is actually hysterical!

Big comeback win by the CM stat paddlers last night!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What class is rocky point and westhampton in?
B or C

B

ouch! Class B goes through Nassau. Congrats on 2nd place y’all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

CM needs to calm down. You get doubled by any halfway decent team. Your tough talk is actually hysterical!

Big comeback win by the CM stat paddlers last night!

Weak league, meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe SWR will quiet down when CM has secured a county spot and SWR is clearly struggling more than they have in years past, and is not officially in counties yet!

SWR parents will never quiet down.

CM needs to calm down. You get doubled by any halfway decent team. Your tough talk is actually hysterical!

Big comeback win by the CM stat paddlers last night!

Weak league, meaningless.

well they beat a team that beat SWR and we all know how rich in history the SWR program is, just ask them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What class is rocky point and westhampton in?
B or C

B

ouch! Class B goes through Nassau. Congrats on 2nd place y’all!

Indeed. But also think you meant Class B goes through Garden City and Class C goes through Manhasset which dropped due to student enrollment

YUP!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What class is rocky point and westhampton in?
B or C

B

ouch! Class B goes through Nassau. Congrats on 2nd place y’all!

Indeed. But also think you meant Class B goes through Garden City and Class C goes through Manhasset which dropped due to student enrollment

And if Northport loses to Syosset in the LIC you all lose your lax cards.

Where is the playoff schedule? Looked at the state website, and it stats no state tourney this year. and not brackets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is the playoff schedule? Looked at the state website, and it stats no state tourney this year. and not brackets.

for us, there is just the LICs dates and brackets on secionxi website

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Our Commack team was overmatched today by SE. Although twe dominated draws, couldn't execute. SE a good team, but looked very selfish, which will cost them. One girl tries to run though everyone without passing to other open girls, and turned the ball over about 10x. Seems like selfishness is a problem on many teams that in the long run wind up dividing the team and ending a season. Our team is guilty of the same.

I think we know that player. Small kid, never met a shot she didn’t take and makes a habit of turning the ball over. Our team has one too, these kids would make great tennis players, but they make terrible teammates. It’s a coaching problem, those girls should ride the bench until they learn to play as a team.

Yep! Coaching problem. You let the ball hog/stat hog pull that garbage and not pull them, team goes down eventually. Selfish play is the downfall and it’s on the coach!

Team doesn’t always “go down”, but this is a problem on West Bab, Northport, Middle Country, Hills as well just name a few. Not an isolated problem. Too much emphasis is put on points, this is driven by social media.

Much easier to pad the stats in Suffolk. Manhasset attacker best girl on the Island has around 50 points playing in the power conference. There are no Lindenhurst, Babylon or Brentwood on the Nassau schedule.

Wow!! Both of my nieces played for SWR and went onto an awesome college. I know you parents can do a lot better. The venom that you spew is uncalled for. This attitude will get you nowhere. Coaches will avoid you for sure. Remember that they’re watching your daughter and you!! Don’t embarrass your child and make them think twice about recruitment.
News flash.... it doesn’t matter where your child plays. If they are talented they’ll find her. It shouldn’t give you pleasure knocking other players/ teams because of your own hang ups. I truly wish the best for every girl, including yours. Please stop all this nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow!! Both of my nieces played for SWR and went onto an awesome college. I know you parents can do a lot better. The venom that you spew is uncalled for. This attitude will get you nowhere. Coaches will avoid you for sure. Remember that they’re watching your daughter and you!! Don’t embarrass your child and make them think twice about recruitment.
News flash.... it doesn’t matter where your child plays. If they are talented they’ll find her. It shouldn’t give you pleasure knocking other players/ teams because of your own hang ups. I truly wish the best for every girl, including yours. Please stop all this nonsense.

Great post that applies to more towns than just SWR. Everyone can hear you complaining in the stands or while walking to your car. Negativity in the stands carries over to the car ride home and the dinner table. Undermines team chemistry and forces a me first mentality. Maybe instead of telling everyone what/how your coach should use your kid, you should realize your not a coach and not running practices and the coach may know more about your kids ability then you. Thankfully travel season is around the corner so you can bring that negativity to another group of parents doing the same thing as you while you compete for meaningless tournament championships with what ever travel team you kid plays for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow!! Both of my nieces played for SWR and went onto an awesome college. I know you parents can do a lot better. The venom that you spew is uncalled for. This attitude will get you nowhere. Coaches will avoid you for sure. Remember that they’re watching your daughter and you!! Don’t embarrass your child and make them think twice about recruitment.
News flash.... it doesn’t matter where your child plays. If they are talented they’ll find her. It shouldn’t give you pleasure knocking other players/ teams because of your own hang ups. I truly wish the best for every girl, including yours. Please stop all this nonsense.

Well said.

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Yes! Totally!!! The 22s and 23s need the recruitment tournaments. They lost a whole year due to the pandemic. This Should have totally been taken into consideration

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

YES!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

YES!!!!!!!

Another reason to get rid of Combs and the Executive Board.

Suffolk Glax about to get their comeuppance next week LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Playing on the weekend isn't nonsense, its smart. 3 games a week, now thats nonsense. The college coaches should be in these stands to see these girls in this environment. You are an buttheadhat if you push your child this year. Be a parent and make sure your girls dont play as many summer/tournament games as they have in the past. I pray non get hurt but here comes the hip, knee, Shin and Ankle and feet issues if you dont give hem a break!!!

Nassau too! Missing same 2 recruiting weekends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Playing on the weekend isn't nonsense, its smart. 3 games a week, now thats nonsense. The college coaches should be in these stands to see these girls in this environment. You are an buttheadhat if you push your child this year. Be a parent and make sure your girls dont play as many summer/tournament games as they have in the past. I pray non get hurt but here comes the hip, knee, Shin and Ankle and feet issues if you dont give hem a break!!!

Where will the College coach’s be on those two weekends? In the stands at the HS games or at the tournaments where they can see girls from all over? Scheduling was the problem this year. The 22s and 23s want to go to recruiting tournaments. Only saying that should have been taken into consideration. They already got shafted a year by the pandemic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau too! Missing same 2 recruiting weekends.

Just frustrating for the 22 and 23 girls. Important recruiting years. Can totally understand their frustration.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Playing on the weekend isn't nonsense, its smart. 3 games a week, now thats nonsense. The college coaches should be in these stands to see these girls in this environment. You are an buttheadhat if you push your child this year. Be a parent and make sure your girls dont play as many summer/tournament games as they have in the past. I pray non get hurt but here comes the hip, knee, Shin and Ankle and feet issues if you dont give hem a break!!!

Where will the College coach’s be on those two weekends? In the stands at the HS games or at the tournaments where they can see girls from all over? Scheduling was the problem this year. The 22s and 23s want to go to recruiting tournaments. Only saying that should have been taken into consideration. They already got shafted a year by the pandemic!

HS games will be filmed, and I’m sure many top D1 colleges will be interested in seeing the LI HS playoffs. They know many of the past top recruits came from Long Island. They will be watching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Playing on the weekend isn't nonsense, its smart. 3 games a week, now thats nonsense. The college coaches should be in these stands to see these girls in this environment. You are an buttheadhat if you push your child this year. Be a parent and make sure your girls dont play as many summer/tournament games as they have in the past. I pray non get hurt but here comes the hip, knee, Shin and Ankle and feet issues if you dont give hem a break!!!

Where will the College coach’s be on those two weekends? In the stands at the HS games or at the tournaments where they can see girls from all over? Scheduling was the problem this year. The 22s and 23s want to go to recruiting tournaments. Only saying that should have been taken into consideration. They already got shafted a year by the pandemic!

Few if any coaches go to HS games on LI. Many times, the ones that do go are there to support their commits.

The majority or recruiting takes place on the club circuit in the summer and fall, events like UA Underclass, college camps / prospect days etc...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Playing on the weekend isn't nonsense, its smart. 3 games a week, now thats nonsense. The college coaches should be in these stands to see these girls in this environment. You are an buttheadhat if you push your child this year. Be a parent and make sure your girls dont play as many summer/tournament games as they have in the past. I pray non get hurt but here comes the hip, knee, Shin and Ankle and feet issues if you dont give hem a break!!!

Where will the College coach’s be on those two weekends? In the stands at the HS games or at the tournaments where they can see girls from all over? Scheduling was the problem this year. The 22s and 23s want to go to recruiting tournaments. Only saying that should have been taken into consideration. They already got shafted a year by the pandemic!

Few if any coaches go to HS games on LI. Many times, the ones that do go are there to support their commits.

The majority or recruiting takes place on the club circuit in the summer and fall, events like UA Underclass, college camps / prospect days etc...

That’s Exactly why people voicing frustration over their daughters missing the two tournaments. Need the exposure

Tournaments are small part of recruiting. Try and get your daughters to specific camps/prospect days and showcases. Smaller environment to get seen at. Def. other ways to get exposure and maybe better

She is not in the top 20 for points in Nassau and barely cracks top 50 for LI so I wouldn’t worry about Suffolk.

Strange to see Manhasset in lass C bracket. Will be interesting to see how the suffolk Class C champ stacks up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tournaments are small part of recruiting. Try and get your daughters to specific camps/prospect days and showcases. Smaller environment to get seen at. Def. other ways to get exposure and maybe better

It depends on what caliber of player, and the caliber of program... The coaches at the top tier programs want to see players compete against the best competition. Many camps/prospect days are money makers and are not limited to players the coach is interested in. Certainly worth going to the camps and prospect days at schools your daughter is interested in but I would not discount the tournaments especially if your daughter is on a top club team competing in competitive tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think SECTION XI really screwed the 2023s and 2022s looking to be recruited by scheduling playoff games on the weekend? Bad enough they’re cramming in 3 games a week increasing the chances of injuries. Nassau not doing this. Some clubs already pulled out. My daughter will potentially miss two recruiting tournaments due to this nonsense!

Playing on the weekend isn't nonsense, its smart. 3 games a week, now thats nonsense. The college coaches should be in these stands to see these girls in this environment. You are an buttheadhat if you push your child this year. Be a parent and make sure your girls dont play as many summer/tournament games as they have in the past. I pray non get hurt but here comes the hip, knee, Shin and Ankle and feet issues if you dont give hem a break!!!

Where will the College coach’s be on those two weekends? In the stands at the HS games or at the tournaments where they can see girls from all over? Scheduling was the problem this year. The 22s and 23s want to go to recruiting tournaments. Only saying that should have been taken into consideration. They already got shafted a year by the pandemic!

Few if any coaches go to HS games on LI. Many times, the ones that do go are there to support their commits.

The majority or recruiting takes place on the club circuit in the summer and fall, events like UA Underclass, college camps / prospect days etc...

That’s Exactly why people voicing frustration over their daughters missing the two tournaments. Need the exposure

and this is exactly the problem. The competition will be there for the girls. Dont belittle the HS experience and what can achieved on and off the field. Such foolishness gets repeated over and over, so sad!

Agree - HS team experience is prob. most important in developing character on and off the field. I personally never seen girls happier to win , as when they win an important game with their HS team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree - HS team experience is prob. most important in developing character on and off the field. I personally never seen girls happier to win , as when they win an important game with their HS team

Good observation! A lot of these kids grow up together and the team feels a bit more like family. I recall in Girls Soccer some girls skipping club soccer to play for their HS ( something about a rule only allowing a gir to either play club or school)

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Perhaps coaches should not have practice 7 days a week so their players aren’t fatigued for the games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

OK, so you have been through this process with a lost year of recruiting? Different year and different circumstances. Frustations are understandable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?
No college coach would want a kid to miss a playoff game
For a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

If you’re daughter will be a top recruit then one weekend
Won’t be an issue. It seemed to workout for the top
Recruits of the 22 class with no tournaments at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?
No college coach would want a kid to miss a playoff game
For a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Completely disagree! HS playoff game will not make a difference in a recruit’s life. Even for those players on a team in a top high school conference in the country. Missing being seen by a college coach when so many circumstances have already gone against a 2022 recruit’s chance of being recruited can be the difference in playing college lacrosse or not. Coaches want to see these players in person. They have been watching film for over a year!

Odds of a HS player making a college varsity roster 2020 (females only):
# US HS Lax Players - 106,162
# of College Lax Players (D1, D2, D3, NAIA, NJCAA) - 13,908
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at any college level - 12.7%
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at NCAA D1 schools - 3.5%
Odds of a US HS Lax player making any college roster - 8:1
Odds of a US HS Lax player making an NCAA D1 roster - 28:1
(Data from [ChillLaxin])

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

Same, and agree that the club tournaments are super important for the 22s and 23s right now. Losing two is a big deal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so you parents of these younger players are aware, this is not a new issue. It always amazes me that people complain about absolutely everything, be a good teammate and support your HS team.

Its more the parents, than the teamates. Most Teammates choose the team. Be a good parent and support your daughters choice of team. Stop complaining

This is such a shame. NY teams should wait until school is over before traveling. This would avoid playoff conflicts and allow students to properly prepare for final exams, regents and ap exams. I'm hoping that some day we go back to the old days of play for your school, play some informal summer ball for fun with your town and go to camps to get seen by college coaches for more than 15 or 20 minutes.

You have NO idea what you're talking about! There is a small recruiting window, and all the big June tournaments are critical. This is on Section XI. Shame on them for screwing these girls opportunities. You can be sure that the girls from every other region will be there with bells on. This is no joke. Just awful!

Actually have been through the process with a very successful outcome. Your exactly who the clubs want. Someone who believes that june tournements are the only way to be seen.

I’ve been through the process with older kids as well. Club is most important. My daughter will be a top recruit, every opportunity to be seen matters. Section XI failed these girls with the weekend games. They should have done a better job

Have been through this process twice and remember this first tournament always conflicting with some HS playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

[/quote]

Completely disagree! HS playoff game will not make a difference in a recruit’s life. Even for those players on a team in a top high school conference in the country. Missing being seen by a college coach when so many circumstances have already gone against a 2022 recruit’s chance of being recruited can be the difference in playing college lacrosse or not. Coaches want to see these players in person. They have been watching film for over a year!

Odds of a HS player making a college varsity roster 2020 (females only):
# US HS Lax Players - 106,162
# of College Lax Players (D1, D2, D3, NAIA, NJCAA) - 13,908
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at any college level - 12.7%
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at NCAA D1 schools - 3.5%
Odds of a US HS Lax player making any college roster - 8:1
Odds of a US HS Lax player making an NCAA D1 roster - 28:1
(Data from [ChillLaxin])[/quote]

Those numbers are not relevant for Long Island.

Ok, But this year the circumstances surrounding recruiting age girls is a bit different. They need any opportunity they can get. The playing field has been made smaller for them due to a lost year and the 5th year grad students taking spots. Also, it could be two important tournaments they may have to miss

Everyone that is here whining that Sect XI should've done a better job and is screwing these girls...... What would you have done differently?

Started season earlier? (Then you would've complained that it overlapped with the "Fall" season)
Played less games? (Then you'd complain that the girls are getting shorted)
Move the games only to weekdays so it rolls into Finals? (Which would never happen, but if it did, you'd complain that the girls don't have time to study)

You see what I'm getting at here? You're only here to whine about something.
Guess what....Sect XI doesn't care about recruiting and the overlap with the club season. Wasting your breathe complaining about it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone that is here whining that Sect XI should've done a better job and is screwing these girls...... What would you have done differently?

Started season earlier? (Then you would've complained that it overlapped with the "Fall" season)
Played less games? (Then you'd complain that the girls are getting shorted)
Move the games only to weekdays so it rolls into Finals? (Which would never happen, but if it did, you'd complain that the girls don't have time to study)

You see what I'm getting at here? You're only here to whine about something.
Guess what....Sect XI doesn't care about recruiting and the overlap with the club season. Wasting your breathe complaining about it

They absolutely should have kept the games on weekdays. Only class A is on the weekend. So it absolutely could have been done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone that is here whining that Sect XI should've done a better job and is screwing these girls...... What would you have done differently?

Started season earlier? (Then you would've complained that it overlapped with the "Fall" season)
Played less games? (Then you'd complain that the girls are getting shorted)
Move the games only to weekdays so it rolls into Finals? (Which would never happen, but if it did, you'd complain that the girls don't have time to study)

You see what I'm getting at here? You're only here to whine about something.
Guess what....Sect XI doesn't care about recruiting and the overlap with the club season. Wasting your breathe complaining about it

They absolutely should have kept the games on weekdays. Only class A is on the weekend. So it absolutely could have been done.

Didn't anyone see JS Instagram post telling players college coaches would value kids staying home for playoffs more than leaving your HS team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone that is here whining that Sect XI should've done a better job and is screwing these girls...... What would you have done differently?

Started season earlier? (Then you would've complained that it overlapped with the "Fall" season)
Played less games? (Then you'd complain that the girls are getting shorted)
Move the games only to weekdays so it rolls into Finals? (Which would never happen, but if it did, you'd complain that the girls don't have time to study)

You see what I'm getting at here? You're only here to whine about something.
Guess what....Sect XI doesn't care about recruiting and the overlap with the club season. Wasting your breathe complaining about it

They absolutely should have kept the games on weekdays. Only class A is on the weekend. So it absolutely could have been done.

Didn't anyone see JS Instagram post telling players college coaches would value kids staying home for playoffs more than leaving your HS team?

Of course he said that. He has a son that's already committed that needs his teammates at the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone that is here whining that Sect XI should've done a better job and is screwing these girls...... What would you have done differently?

Started season earlier? (Then you would've complained that it overlapped with the "Fall" season)
Played less games? (Then you'd complain that the girls are getting shorted)
Move the games only to weekdays so it rolls into Finals? (Which would never happen, but if it did, you'd complain that the girls don't have time to study)

You see what I'm getting at here? You're only here to whine about something.
Guess what....Sect XI doesn't care about recruiting and the overlap with the club season. Wasting your breathe complaining about it

They absolutely should have kept the games on weekdays. Only class A is on the weekend. So it absolutely could have been done.

Didn't anyone see JS Instagram post telling players college coaches would value kids staying home for playoffs more than leaving your HS team?

Of course he said that. He has a son that's already committed that needs his teammates at the game.

There is not a college coach in the world who would agree with leaving your HS team during playoffs to go to a club tournament.

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

The tournament directors schedule their tournaments around the recruiting calendar. The rest of the country has figured out how to wrap up their lacrosse seasons before recruiting season starts. Figure it out. The IAAM in MD played a 13 game regular season and had full playoffs and finished a month ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

BINGO. Sorry but tournaments are almost always the same weekends every year. The big ones coordinate with each other - thinkLax, Top of the Bay, STEPs, etc. They are not going to cater to a few regions that decided to have playoffs in the middle of June.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

BINGO. Sorry but tournaments are almost always the same weekends every year. The big ones coordinate with each other - thinkLax, Top of the Bay, STEPs, etc. They are not going to cater to a few regions that decided to have playoffs in the middle of June.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

BINGO. Sorry but tournaments are almost always the same weekends every year. The big ones coordinate with each other - thinkLax, Top of the Bay, STEPs, etc. They are not going to cater to a few regions that decided to have playoffs in the middle of June.

It’s Unfortunate for the LI uncommitted 22s and 23s to have to miss the tournaments! They have had a lost year and I’m sure they are looking to get out and get some live exposure. Film only goes so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Completely disagree! HS playoff game will not make a difference in a recruit’s life. Even for those players on a team in a top high school conference in the country. Missing being seen by a college coach when so many circumstances have already gone against a 2022 recruit’s chance of being recruited can be the difference in playing college lacrosse or not. Coaches want to see these players in person. They have been watching film for over a year!

Odds of a HS player making a college varsity roster 2020 (females only):
# US HS Lax Players - 106,162
# of College Lax Players (D1, D2, D3, NAIA, NJCAA) - 13,908
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at any college level - 12.7%
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at NCAA D1 schools - 3.5%
Odds of a US HS Lax player making any college roster - 8:1
Odds of a US HS Lax player making an NCAA D1 roster - 28:1
(Data from [ChillLaxin])[/quote]

Those numbers are not relevant for Long Island.[/quote]

Of course they are. Long Island was in the US the last I saw 🤣 contrary to what many in this forum may believe, LI and Maryland girls no longer rule the college rosters like they used to. Many recruits now pulling from additional hot spots in the country now! Lots more competition - especially in the 22 class where many girls in these additional hot spots too have been playing club level lax since 4th grade. Having daughters that were 2016, 2018 and 2022 recruits I can tell you from experience that the landscape for my 22 is much more competitive than it ever was for my other girls who went fairly high level D1. My youngest is committed but I feel sorry for quite a few of her club teammates who are hoping the next several tournaments lock in a roster spot for them. The fact they now have to miss for a high school playoff game is not fair - especially after the rough recruiting season they have already endured. Def less roster spots avail on college teams than I saw with my older two!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Section XI acted with blatant disregard to the athletes. Shame on them for being so ignorant. Life will go on, but they could have and should have done a better job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Best matchups of the weekend? Nassau or Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Actually, they (the decision makers) are responsible. Bureaucrats should give carful consideration to the impact their decisions will have on the people they (the bureaucrats) serve. What is in the "best interest" of the players should be at the forefront of the decision making process. Too many School Board members, Administrators, Union Delegates, Teachers, Coaches etc... do not understand that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Correct me if I’m wrong wasn’t the decision to remove the coaches blackout decided long after the High School sports calendars were completed. How could anyone plan around a decision that had not been made. Go perform well at out of state tournaments when you have the opportunity , and stop being a victim your whole life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Correct me if I’m wrong wasn’t the decision to remove the coaches blackout decided long after the High School sports calendars were completed. How could anyone plan around a decision that had not been made. Go perform well at out of state tournaments when you have the opportunity , and stop being a victim your whole life.

I will correct you because you are missing the point and acting like an arrogant. These tournaments happen at the same time every year. Regardless of whether the coaches could attend in person, or watch the film, they are critical in the recruiting process. I will also remind you that these spring athletes lost their ENTIRE season last year, whereas the other seasons did not. The bottom line, Section XI should not have scheduled playoff games on the weekend. It was not in the best interest of the athletes they serve.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Correct me if I’m wrong wasn’t the decision to remove the coaches blackout decided long after the High School sports calendars were completed. How could anyone plan around a decision that had not been made. Go perform well at out of state tournaments when you have the opportunity , and stop being a victim your whole life.

I will correct you because you are missing the point and acting like an arrogant. These tournaments happen at the same time every year. Regardless of whether the coaches could attend in person, or watch the film, they are critical in the recruiting process. I will also remind you that these spring athletes lost their ENTIRE season last year, whereas the other seasons did not. The bottom line, Section XI should not have scheduled playoff games on the weekend. It was not in the best interest of the athletes they serve.

Agree, and Very Well Said! The circumstances this year were very different and needed to be taken into consideration.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

They should have just not had playoffs and ended the season last week and that would have solved the problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

They should have just not had playoffs and ended the season last week and that would have solved the problem.

No, they just have not scheduled games on the weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

They should have just not had playoffs and ended the season last week and that would have solved the problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

They should have just not had playoffs and ended the season last week and that would have solved the problem.

No, they just have not scheduled games on the weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

They should have just not had playoffs and ended the season last week and that would have solved the problem.

No, they just have not scheduled games on the weekend.

Oh my god enough
High school team should be the most important thing if you’re a true athlete and want to win a Championship for your school you’ll remember that the rest of ur life. My kids hs teams any sport in season more important than anything.

How about Bert beating sayville

I’m surprised Sinai beat Sayville tbh

Came from 4 goals down with 10 minutes left. Pretty good for a team that has been hit hard by injuries.

Now that NCAA over I can catch some LI high school games. Had a chance to see Ward Melville vs Huntington. Good game. I don’t know why HS coaches don’t call time out more. WM down two goals, up a player and had possession with 3:30 left. Perfect time for a time out. Instead took a hurried shot and lost possession on an end line call (which should never happen a man up). Looking forward to more games!

Originally Posted by baldbear

Now that NCAA over I can catch some LI high school games. Had a chance to see Ward Melville vs Huntington. Good game. I don’t know why HS coaches don’t call time out more. WM down two goals, up a player and had possession with 3:30 left. Perfect time for a time out. Instead took a hurried shot and lost possession on an end line call (which should never happen a man up). Looking forward to more games!

Is that a legit question? Are you really questioning the decisions that the Ward Melville coach makes? Please tell us this was brought up in jest.

Hi
Now that the coaches are at tournaments, do you have any recommendations for my kid.
I noticed that during games our sports recruits profile would get pinged by certain coaches, not even the coaches from schools in our profile. Does this mean anything?
What do you think of the lacrosse masters camps for exposure?
We had a school ping this weekend- should we send a letter to that coach? or go to one of their caps?

During the games coaches came to set up for the next game and watched some of ours. Those coaches weren't really paying attn to our games were they? they all seemed to be chatting.
This has opened up a whole new can of anxiety for my daughters and friends now.
-signed,
not heros m&d or skywalkers

WM is in the rear view. Who’s everyone got for Huntington/Smithtown East? Whoever wins would be their first time to the counties. Can Commack come up with a plan for Northport? Should be some exciting lax tomorrow!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is in the rear view. Who’s everyone got for Huntington/Smithtown East? Whoever wins would be their first time to the counties. Can Commack come up with a plan for Northport? Should be some exciting lax tomorrow!

Huntington! Go Blue Devils!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hi
Now that the coaches are at tournaments, do you have any recommendations for my kid.
I noticed that during games our sports recruits profile would get pinged by certain coaches, not even the coaches from schools in our profile. Does this mean anything?
What do you think of the lacrosse masters camps for exposure?
We had a school ping this weekend- should we send a letter to that coach? or go to one of their caps?

During the games coaches came to set up for the next game and watched some of ours. Those coaches weren't really paying attn to our games were they? they all seemed to be chatting.
This has opened up a whole new can of anxiety for my daughters and friends now.
-signed,
not heros m&d or skywalkers

Turn off notification or delete the app from your phone. My daughter sent emails from her gmail and not from sports recruits or connectlax. Many girls on her team would get wrapped up in how many schools looked at their profile. In the end it just created unnecessary anxiety. When at tourneys they should be focused on playing not on who looked at their profile.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is in the rear view. Who’s everyone got for Huntington/Smithtown East? Whoever wins would be their first time to the counties. Can Commack come up with a plan for Northport? Should be some exciting lax tomorrow!

Huntington! Go Blue Devils!

East is loaded, and already beat Huntington, but anything could happen. Hopefully there are good refs that don’t ruin the game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Now that NCAA over I can catch some LI high school games. Had a chance to see Ward Melville vs Huntington. Good game. I don’t know why HS coaches don’t call time out more. WM down two goals, up a player and had possession with 3:30 left. Perfect time for a time out. Instead took a hurried shot and lost possession on an end line call (which should never happen a man up). Looking forward to more games!

Is that a legit question? Are you really questioning the decisions that the Ward Melville coach makes? Please tell us this was brought up in jest.

My point is why leave time outs in your pocket? I used that particular time of the game as a great time to use a time out. Give your offense a breather, run a play and maybe score. Instead you got a hurried shot with no one on the end line.

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Now that NCAA over I can catch some LI high school games. Had a chance to see Ward Melville vs Huntington. Good game. I don’t know why HS coaches don’t call time out more. WM down two goals, up a player and had possession with 3:30 left. Perfect time for a time out. Instead took a hurried shot and lost possession on an end line call (which should never happen a man up). Looking forward to more games!

Is that a legit question? Are you really questioning the decisions that the Ward Melville coach makes? Please tell us this was brought up in jest.

My point is why leave time outs in your pocket? I used that particular time of the game as a great time to use a time out. Give your offense a breather, run a play and maybe score. Instead you got a hurried shot with no one on the end line.

Pretty sure you are responding to a sarcastic comment.

Great game in Smithtown today as two talented, well coached teams played a deliberate, possession dominated game. The tie breaking goal with 8.8 seconds scored by a Smithtown player who wears a nice arm rash from an earlier dodge. Great play by both Smithtown East and Huntington.

I streamed the Northport semi, Wow. it’s pretty obvious the Refs know who is paying their summer tourney salaries, They didn’t even try to hide their bias.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I streamed the Northport semi, Wow. it’s pretty obvious the Refs know who is paying their summer tourney salaries, They didn’t even try to hide their bias.

Now do Mt. Sinai -Sayville.

Anytime you travel up there you know you are not only facing a strong team, but the refs are in her back pocket too. Commack had a girl get knocked out by a stick to the head from behind at midfield, 10 feet in front of the ref w/ 2 others on the field, obvious yellow - not a peep out of any of them. Spineless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I streamed the Northport semi, Wow. it’s pretty obvious the Refs know who is paying their summer tourney salaries, They didn’t even try to hide their bias.

You would think that the refs would know better than to fall for the head flop. Does the Northport coach teach the girls to do that on purpose? A shame the game revolved around drawing penalties. Northport is a great team and shouldn't have to win by cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anytime you travel up there you know you are not only facing a strong team, but the refs are in her back pocket too. Commack had a girl get knocked out by a stick to the head from behind at midfield, 10 feet in front of the ref w/ 2 others on the field, obvious yellow - not a peep out of any of them. Spineless.

Is it possible that the officials are simply not very good?

Agree. A lot of calls went Sayville’s way. They only committed like 4 penalties all game. According to the refs anyway. And before anyone mentions it, the yellow card against Sayville near the end of the game was a good call. Stick down the side of players head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by baldbear

Now that NCAA over I can catch some LI high school games. Had a chance to see Ward Melville vs Huntington. Good game. I don’t know why HS coaches don’t call time out more. WM down two goals, up a player and had possession with 3:30 left. Perfect time for a time out. Instead took a hurried shot and lost possession on an end line call (which should never happen a man up). Looking forward to more games!

Is that a legit question? Are you really questioning the decisions that the Ward Melville coach makes? Please tell us this was brought up in jest.

My point is why leave time outs in your pocket? I used that particular time of the game as a great time to use a time out. Give your offense a breather, run a play and maybe score. Instead you got a hurried shot with no one on the end line.

Pretty sure you are responding to a sarcastic comment.

If italics are not used I’m never sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anytime you travel up there you know you are not only facing a strong team, but the refs are in her back pocket too. Commack had a girl get knocked out by a stick to the head from behind at midfield, 10 feet in front of the ref w/ 2 others on the field, obvious yellow - not a peep out of any of them. Spineless.

Is it possible that the officials are simply not very good?

Ya think. The officiating of this sport is at an all time low. No rule etc has hurt the sport more than the inept officiating one must endure while playing or watching almost any HS game. I know …… easy to complain and honestly I don’t have a simple remedy. Maybe a third official??? But that only means more mysterious calls??

has anyone attended the UnD1sputed girls showcase in the past? is it a good one? just wanted to know what others may think of it before we sign up?

It’s really weird to us that these 3rd tier teams get a lot of ink on these pages (sayville, commack, WM). Would someone please point me to the CHSAA or Nassau board?

[quote=Anonymous]It’s really weird to us that these 3rd tier teams get a lot of ink on these pages (sayville, commack, WM). Would someone please point me to the CHSAA or Nassau board?[/quot

You can “ink” anything about LI teams you want right here. You don’t need a whole other board. Unless you think Nassau special and needs its own board ? Hmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s really weird to us that these 3rd tier teams get a lot of ink on these pages (sayville, commack, WM). Would someone please point me to the CHSAA or Nassau board?

To “us”?? Then “US” can start any convo they want here. Nassau as well! No one controlling comments here! And, guess what… it’s anonymous … so, go for it! Can’t wait to hear thoughts on the Nassau teams.

After enjoying a great high school season it’s sad that we do not have a travel season on Long Island. What a giant disservice every travel team does to our girls. That can’t put their differences aside to better these kids. Just imagine how much better they would be! How nice it was to only drive a coupe of towns away to watch a game instead of driving to Maryland every weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anytime you travel up there you know you are not only facing a strong team, but the refs are in her back pocket too. Commack had a girl get knocked out by a stick to the head from behind at midfield, 10 feet in front of the ref w/ 2 others on the field, obvious yellow - not a peep out of any of them. Spineless.

Is it possible that the officials are simply not very good?

Ya think. The officiating of this sport is at an all time low. No rule etc has hurt the sport more than the inept officiating one must endure while playing or watching almost any HS game. I know …… easy to complain and honestly I don’t have a simple remedy. Maybe a third official??? But that only means more mysterious calls??

It’s not great at the collegiate level either. I have an abstract theory though. The rules were written decades ago with the core rules still in place. Find an old video of an 80’s or 90’s women’s game. You will be shocked. The female lacrosse athlete, at all levels, is light years better now. Speed, athleticism, stick skills, physicality, you name it. I think it’s hard for the refs to apply the rules to this generation of player. My two cents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s really weird to us that these 3rd tier teams get a lot of ink on these pages (sayville, commack, WM). Would someone please point me to the CHSAA or Nassau board?

This is the LI High School forum. Post away! I was at the Plainedge vs Manhasset game today. Not a competitive game.

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

Celebrate it at home. Unless the actual team does it for their teammate. Parents should not do that at the field

Why are the girls playoff games not at a neutral site? This seems totally unfair! Nassau playoffs are at neutral site. What’s wrong with Section XI?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

Oh boy, the jealousy never ends.... Nothing wrong with celebrating both the Team and an individual accomplishment. I watched the Maryland Men's Team make a big deal over Jared Bernhardt when he broke the Maryland scoring record, Penn State celebrated Mac O'Keefe when he broke the NCAA scoring record. I'm sure it's done all the time those are just two that happened this year that I remember.

Celebrate your teammates successes and accomplishments don't be bitter or resentful.

Too many parents rooting against their daughters own teammates. Toxic environment.

Congratulations to the Wantagh young lady on her 100th career goal. That is an awesome accomplishment. Shame on her teammates parents for being so negative. Do we really need to tear everyone down? Sad part is your daughter and her are probably friends and you probably went over and congratulated the kid and her parents!

No need to root against your teammates..... you all wear the same uniform!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

Oh boy, the jealousy never ends.... Nothing wrong with celebrating both the Team and an individual accomplishment. I watched the Maryland Men's Team make a big deal over Jared Bernhardt when he broke the Maryland scoring record, Penn State celebrated Mac O'Keefe when he broke the NCAA scoring record. I'm sure it's done all the time those are just two that happened this year that I remember.

Celebrate your teammates successes and accomplishments don't be bitter or resentful.

Too many parents rooting against their daughters own teammates. Toxic environment.

Don’t think anyone saying it shouldn’t be celebrated! Just like you said “ The Maryland’s Men Team” celebrated their player. I think the problem is the parents facilitating it! Should be from the team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the girls playoff games not at a neutral site? This seems totally unfair! Nassau playoffs are at neutral site. What’s wrong with Section XI?

GREAT question! What is wrong with section XI!?!? Also putting playoffs on weekends where girls couldn’t do their recruiting stuff … was a miss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

non-story, girls love her and are happy for her. They are "tough" enough to wait for a team photo while she gets recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

non-story, girls love her and are happy for her. They are "tough" enough to wait for a team photo while she gets recognized.

Haters gonna detest...

Congratulations to the girl!

Totally missing the point. OP - I don’t think Was about celebrating the achievement ? She totally deserved the individual accolades and attention. Congrats to the player!

I think the post was a statement about the parents and them making the celebration? Shouldn’t it be the teammates and coaches ? No one saying she shouldn’t be recognized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally missing the point. OP - I don’t think Was about celebrating the achievement ? She totally deserved the individual accolades and attention. Congrats to the player!

I think the post was a statement about the parents and them making the celebration? Shouldn’t it be the teammates and coaches ? No one saying she shouldn’t be recognized.

What difference does it make? Just curious, what exactly was done? How long did this take? Did the parents give a long speech or something? Did they bring out the marching band? Did the parents do whatever they did on their own without the Coaches and or AD being informed?

Just doesn't seem like a big deal to me to recognize the accomplishment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally missing the point. OP - I don’t think Was about celebrating the achievement ? She totally deserved the individual accolades and attention. Congrats to the player!

I think the post was a statement about the parents and them making the celebration? Shouldn’t it be the teammates and coaches ? No one saying she shouldn’t be recognized.

What difference does it make? Just curious, what exactly was done? How long did this take? Did the parents give a long speech or something? Did they bring out the marching band? Did the parents do whatever they did on their own without the Coaches and or AD being informed?

Just doesn't seem like a big deal to me to recognize the accomplishment.

When you say “the parents” do you mean “her parents”. Ie.The players parents.
Did anyone else realize this milestone was approaching other than mom & dad?

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

BBP wins girls class C Suffolk title beating Mt Sinai. The end of an era for Mt Sinai. BBP graduates a ton of talent. Suffolk C is up for grabs next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

It was a good game. Agree it should have been neutral location and disagree the statement about how the game was called. I thought Smithtown was going tie it towards the end of the game but good goalie play. Congratulations to both teams for a great final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh girl scored 100 goal of her career yesterday. The same day Wantagh won the class C semifinals. After the game the girls parents brought balloons shaped as the number 100 and made a big deal over it. I thought this was a team sport and yesterday was about the team making it to county’s. Lastly all the girls had to stand aside and watch this kid receive her parents accolades, Anyone have a thought on this?

As a Garden City Parent, kudos to her! the league has always been a gauntlet. Stop hating!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP wins girls class C Suffolk title beating Mt Sinai. The end of an era for Mt Sinai. BBP graduates a ton of talent. Suffolk C is up for grabs next year.

When is the BBP v. Manhasset game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

I think Playoff games should always be in a neutral site. Diesn’t Nassau do that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

I think Playoff games should always be in a neutral site. Diesn’t Nassau do that?

Yes! It’s a definite game changer. Shame on section XI for not doing their job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP wins girls class C Suffolk title beating Mt Sinai. The end of an era for Mt Sinai. BBP graduates a ton of talent. Suffolk C is up for grabs next year.

When is the BBP v. Manhasset game?

Wantagh vs Manhasset tomorrow at Bethpage.

BBP graduates 3 Top talent players and brings in a wave of new talent to join the current underclass players already playing. Many other programs not getting stronger. Should be a good run.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

I think Playoff games should always be in a neutral site. Diesn’t Nassau do that?

Yes! It’s a definite game changer. Shame on section XI for not doing their job.

When two teams pretty evenly matched and one gets home field advantage , it gives them an edge. I feel all Championship games should be played on a neutral field.

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Massapequa and CM will take a beating. GC and Manhasset will deliver one. Looks like the Island will split 50/50

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Not that frosty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Massapequa and CM will take a beating. GC and Manhasset will deliver one. Looks like the Island will split 50/50

I think BPP will handle Manhasset. Wantagh gave them a game today. Northport had a lot of turnovers against Smithtown and will have to play better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Massapequa and CM will take a beating. GC and Manhasset will deliver one. Looks like the Island will split 50/50

GC defense has some big weaknesses. Southside just couldn't capitalize.

Southside was 2 players down for last 8 min.

Pretty wild that all county champs played each other during the regular season. Anyone know why it is set up that way? Think power ranking would be:

GC
Manhasset
CSH
Massapequa

Would love to see GC v BBP.

Would also be great to have some sort of nassau/ suffolk tournament of champs at the beginning of the season like they do in college bball ( Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Mich State). Maybe take the champs from prior year as a starting point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Pequa a "blueblood" ? haha It won't be pretty when they play NPort!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty wild that all county champs played each other during the regular season. Anyone know why it is set up that way? Think power ranking would be:

GC
Manhasset
CSH
Massapequa

Would love to see GC v BBP.

Would also be great to have some sort of nassau/ suffolk tournament of champs at the beginning of the season like they do in college bball ( Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Mich State). Maybe take the champs from prior year as a starting point

Nassau has a power conference for the season. The top 10 teams are in the power conference regardless of their class. Once the season is over they all go back to their respective class for playoffs. Also, every team in the power conference makes the postseason regardless of their overall record. As an example, Massapequa has a season record under .500 but won the Class A section championship. Class A in Nassau seems on face value to be the weakest class this year All 4 teams in the playoffs were under .500. With that being said they played a tough schedule (power conference). Cold Spring Harbor may have a losing record but Center Moriches better bring their "A" game...their winning record is far from impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty wild that all county champs played each other during the regular season. Anyone know why it is set up that way? Think power ranking would be:

GC
Manhasset
CSH
Massapequa

Would love to see GC v BBP.

Would also be great to have some sort of nassau/ suffolk tournament of champs at the beginning of the season like they do in college bball ( Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Mich State). Maybe take the champs from prior year as a starting point

Nassau has power conference for regular season. Once playoffs start they go back to their conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

I think Playoff games should always be in a neutral site. Diesn’t Nassau do that?

Yes! It’s a definite game changer. Shame on section XI for not doing their job.

When two teams pretty evenly matched and one gets home field advantage , it gives them an edge. I feel all Championship games should be played on a neutral field.

Then throw in the awful officiating in that Smithtown/Northport game and those SE girls were up against it. A string of calls starting with 5 minutes left in the 1st half let Northport erase a 6-2 deficit and got them back in the game. At one point, calls had to be 12-1 against SE, insane. Carol was working those refs all game, at least they'll stay on the summer circuit ref schedule now, a shame it came at the expense of 7 seniors on SE that have been YJ since 6th grade. 3 that she personally coached.

Kudos to the NPT goalie, she made 3 clutch saves with under 3 minutes left, huge stops. Anyway, on to college lacrosse for us. Enjoy your summers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Stop, Nassau is going to get smoked, just like every year. Maybe GC pulls it out. The top 5 teams in Suffolk A would beat Pequa handily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Massapequa and CM will take a beating. GC and Manhasset will deliver one. Looks like the Island will split 50/50

Port Jeff did their homework and almost stopped the Center Moriches Stat Padders. Cold Spring Harbor will certainly shut down their two girl offense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside was 2 players down for last 8 min.

True, but the game was over before that point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Massapequa and CM will take a beating. GC and Manhasset will deliver one. Looks like the Island will split 50/50

I'll take GC and CSH, perhaps not even close. Northport over Pequa, Set vs BBP should be a great game. Really don't know which way to lean.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty wild that all county champs played each other during the regular season. Anyone know why it is set up that way? Think power ranking would be:

GC
Manhasset
CSH
Massapequa

Would love to see GC v BBP.

Would also be great to have some sort of nassau/ suffolk tournament of champs at the beginning of the season like they do in college bball ( Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Mich State). Maybe take the champs from prior year as a starting point

Nassau has a power conference for the season. The top 10 teams are in the power conference regardless of their class. Once the season is over they all go back to their respective class for playoffs. Also, every team in the power conference makes the postseason regardless of their overall record. As an example, Massapequa has a season record under .500 but won the Class A section championship. Class A in Nassau seems on face value to be the weakest class this year All 4 teams in the playoffs were under .500. With that being said they played a tough schedule (power conference). Cold Spring Harbor may have a losing record but Center Moriches better bring their "A" game...their winning record is far from impressive.

Thanks for the explanation. Make sense to have this. Just took a peak at the suffolk “Divisions” and goodness 22 teams in Div 1 and 24 team in Div 2. Doesn’t seem like they get much of a test during regular season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Blue Bloods coming for section xi:

Class A: Massapequa, NY
Class B: Garden City, NY
Class C: Manhasset, NY
Class D, Cold Spring Harbor, NY

just got chills typing that sheeshhh!!

Stop, Nassau is going to get smoked, just like every year. Maybe GC pulls it out. The top 5 teams in Suffolk A would beat Pequa handily.

Did you happen to see Manhasset on that list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

I think Playoff games should always be in a neutral site. Diesn’t Nassau do that?

Yes! It’s a definite game changer. Shame on section XI for not doing their job.

When two teams pretty evenly matched and one gets home field advantage , it gives them an edge. I feel all Championship games should be played on a neutral field.

Then throw in the awful officiating in that Smithtown/Northport game and those SE girls were up against it. A string of calls starting with 5 minutes left in the 1st half let Northport erase a 6-2 deficit and got them back in the game. At one point, calls had to be 12-1 against SE, insane. Carol was working those refs all game, at least they'll stay on the summer circuit ref schedule now, a shame it came at the expense of 7 seniors on SE that have been YJ since 6th grade. 3 that she personally coached.

Kudos to the NPT goalie, she made 3 clutch saves with under 3 minutes left, huge stops. Anyway, on to college lacrosse for us. Enjoy your summers.

Agree! Refs stopped critical fast break, Let NP girl get away with hitting ST girl in head (she was even bleeding), called draw early on ST when NP girl moved first, let NP girl run out of bounds with ball, then called a push after she ran back in and got pushed with under a minute in game. The refs handed NP that game, SE was man down for 6min for absolute nonsense.. Even id they scored in final seconds, the refs certainly would have called the goal back. Was just ridiculous and would have been a different game at a neutral location! Other than that, I hope NP demolishes Pequa! .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game between Northport and Smithtown, a shame it wasn’t at a neutral location and every call wasn’t against Smithtown. How much does CR pay refs?

I think Playoff games should always be in a neutral site. Diesn’t Nassau do that?

Yes! It’s a definite game changer. Shame on section XI for not doing their job.

When two teams pretty evenly matched and one gets home field advantage , it gives them an edge. I feel all Championship games should be played on a neutral field.

Then throw in the awful officiating in that Smithtown/Northport game and those SE girls were up against it. A string of calls starting with 5 minutes left in the 1st half let Northport erase a 6-2 deficit and got them back in the game. At one point, calls had to be 12-1 against SE, insane. Carol was working those refs all game, at least they'll stay on the summer circuit ref schedule now, a shame it came at the expense of 7 seniors on SE that have been YJ since 6th grade. 3 that she personally coached.

Kudos to the NPT goalie, she made 3 clutch saves with under 3 minutes left, huge stops. Anyway, on to college lacrosse for us. Enjoy your summers.

Agree! Refs stopped critical fast break, Let NP girl get away with hitting ST girl in head (she was even bleeding), called draw early on ST when NP girl moved first, let NP girl run out of bounds with ball, then called a push after she ran back in and got pushed with under a minute in game. The refs handed NP that game, SE was man down for 6min for absolute nonsense.. Even id they scored in final seconds, the refs certainly would have called the goal back. Was just ridiculous and would have been a different game at a neutral location! Other than that, I hope NP demolishes Pequa! .

doubt it. cupcake schedules that Suffolk has.

Maybe. 5 yellow cards from the same official? There were 3 on the field. For 20 minutes in 2nd half SS was down a player….then at 8 minutes a second player. GC has a very good team…but the officials made it almost impossible for SS to attempt any type of comeback. The officiating in girls lacrosse as a whole is maddening.

Lots of college coaches at Man v Wan game. Glad girls didn't leave their HS teams to go to tournaments!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty wild that all county champs played each other during the regular season. Anyone know why it is set up that way? Think power ranking would be:

GC
Manhasset
CSH
Massapequa

Would love to see GC v BBP.

Would also be great to have some sort of nassau/ suffolk tournament of champs at the beginning of the season like they do in college bball ( Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Mich State). Maybe take the champs from prior year as a starting point

Agreed that some preseason tournament among LI or even Westchester, upstate teams should happen. Not sure when High schools from neighboring states will allow for intrastate travel. There used to be the Brain for Drain tournament in Cold Spring Harbor that used to occur that had some really good matchups. Need something like that but for NY.

Why do U hope that ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of college coaches at Man v Wan game. Glad girls didn't leave their HS teams to go to tournaments!!

Fake news

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do U hope that ?

to get quality games instead of playing in 30 team leagues live they do in suffolk.

They still won!!! You and no one can take that away!!! What’s your name?? ❤️Nothing but love, Christine Triandafils xoxo

BTW!! Defense won the CM vs PJ game!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty wild that all county champs played each other during the regular season. Anyone know why it is set up that way? Think power ranking would be:

GC
Manhasset
CSH
Massapequa

Would love to see GC v BBP.

Would also be great to have some sort of nassau/ suffolk tournament of champs at the beginning of the season like they do in college bball ( Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Mich State). Maybe take the champs from prior year as a starting point

Nassau has a power conference for the season. The top 10 teams are in the power conference regardless of their class. Once the season is over they all go back to their respective class for playoffs. Also, every team in the power conference makes the postseason regardless of their overall record. As an example, Massapequa has a season record under .500 but won the Class A section championship. Class A in Nassau seems on face value to be the weakest class this year All 4 teams in the playoffs were under .500. With that being said they played a tough schedule (power conference). Cold Spring Harbor may have a losing record but Center Moriches better bring their "A" game...their winning record is far from impressive.

Thanks for the explanation. Make sense to have this. Just took a peak at the suffolk “Divisions” and goodness 22 teams in Div 1 and 24 team in Div 2. Doesn’t seem like they get much of a test during regular season.

Division one in Suffolk County weekest it’s been in 10 years.
Div two lots of parity and very good teams. If you’re seated top six your not having an easy schedule. Strength of schedule is big. West Islip finished seventh in the B class. They beat west Babylon and Mount Sinai. Only top six make playoffs no playoffs for them.

Suffolk is power points - the best play best, top 10 all play each other in their respective divisions (I and II) essentially the same thing as a power conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP wins girls class C Suffolk title beating Mt Sinai. The end of an era for Mt Sinai. BBP graduates a ton of talent. Suffolk C is up for grabs next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP wins girls class C Suffolk title beating Mt Sinai. The end of an era for Mt Sinai. BBP graduates a ton of talent. Suffolk C is up for grabs next year.

BBP Only has 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Rest of starters are Sophmores and they are deep and extremely talented. Goalie is a sophomore and an absolute stud! The Freshman and Eighth graders on the varsity are deep as well, BBP is about to go on a long term run!

Game Day, Ladies and gents!!

Schedule below. Favorites listed first based on forum sentiment and record. Appreciate any color commentary for those that are there. Please show decorum if you attend. Your children will remember this game for the rest of their lives.

To the players, congrats on making it this far! You all are Champs!!!

Girls Lacrosse- Long Island Championships

Location: Bethpage High School,10 Cherry Ave,
Bethpage NY 11714

10am- Class A: Northport (17-0) v. Massapequa (6-9)
12pm- Class B: Garden City (13-2) v. West Babylon (13-4)
2pm- Class C: BBP (14-0) v. Manhasset (13-2)
4pm- Class D: CSH (5-9) v. Center Moriches (11-5)

Let’s go Long Island!!! 👏👏👏

As they say... “May the odds be forever in your favor” 😁

quote]

I think Playoff games should always be in a neutral site. Diesn’t Nassau do that?[/quote]

Yes! It’s a definite game changer. Shame on section XI for not doing their job.[/quote]

When two teams pretty evenly matched and one gets home field advantage , it gives them an edge. I feel all Championship games should be played on a neutral field.[/quote]

Then throw in the awful officiating in that Smithtown/Northport game and those SE girls were up against it. A string of calls starting with 5 minutes left in the 1st half let Northport erase a 6-2 deficit and got them back in the game. At one point, calls had to be 12-1 against SE, insane. Carol was working those refs all game, at least they'll stay on the summer circuit ref schedule now, a shame it came at the expense of 7 seniors on SE that have been YJ since 6th grade. 3 that she personally coached.

Kudos to the NPT goalie, she made 3 clutch saves with under 3 minutes left, huge stops. Anyway, on to college lacrosse for us. Enjoy your summers.[/quote]

Agree! Refs stopped critical fast break, Let NP girl get away with hitting ST girl in head (she was even bleeding), called draw early on ST when NP girl moved first, let NP girl run out of bounds with ball, then called a push after she ran back in and got pushed with under a minute in game. The refs handed NP that game, SE was man down for 6min for absolute nonsense.. Even id they scored in final seconds, the refs certainly would have called the goal back. Was just ridiculous and would have been a different game at a neutral location! Other than that, I hope NP demolishes Pequa! .[/quote] doubt it. cupcake schedules that Suffolk has.[/quote]

And you were saying??? Looks like it was Nassau with the weak schedule. Pequa was never in this game. NP controls all aspects. Top 5 teams in Suffolk would beat Pequa.

Ok, WB played a weak schedule all season. Showed today. Stat padders looked like JV player. Amazing how dome players look so good playing weak competition and then are exposed. GC putting on a clinic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, WB played a weak schedule all season. Showed today. Stat padders looked like JV player. Amazing how dome players look so good playing weak competition and then are exposed. GC putting on a clinic!

Weak sched your clueless. Div 2 lots of good teams they played all the top teams. GC hats off great team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, WB played a weak schedule all season. Showed today. Stat padders looked like JV player. Amazing how dome players look so good playing weak competition and then are exposed. GC putting on a clinic!

Weak sched your clueless. Div 2 lots of good teams they played all the top teams. GC hats off great team

Then why you got beat down so bad?

CSH 14 - CM 3 ouch!

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

So...Suffolk/Nassau split. Two close games, two uncontested. Revealing on who the top teams and conferences are!

CSH not a good team they beat down CM. CM has been bragging a bit, but now we see what kid of team they really are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

Center Moriches does not belong in this conversation. A weak team who played even weaker competition.

Suffolk Class D not in the same caliber of play. CSH was an overmatch. Garden City on paper better than West Babylon. Not surprised by outcomes. Northport’ s tougher game was Smithtown in the Suffolk finals but Massapequa was game today. A good outing.

BPP vs Manhasset was a great game. Watching Manhasset playoff games didn’t really show you how good their defense is. They played down to Wantagh (no offense to Wantagh) in a game that shouldn’t have been that close. BPP a tremendous team and the defense and goalie play incredible. Manhasset showed defense though today. 2-1 BPP half score turned into a 5-2 Manhasset edge. But BPP capitalized on a bad yellow card (it was a correct call by the official) and played a great last 5 of 6 minutes. The last minute, with turnovers and a last second shot, is edge of the seat stuff.

Let’s get back to states next year! Enjoy the rest of your summer! Have fun at tournaments!

Center Moriches???? Not even top 10 in Suffolk 2. Def some Jv teams out there ahead of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

Center Moriches does not belong in this conversation. A weak team who played even weaker competition.

Center Moriches and their 2 80+ point scorers do not belong on this list. When your coach requested the lowest seed in D2 and you play the weakest schedule you get this. Inflated stats for your players and beat downs when you play real teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Center Moriches???? Not even top 10 in Suffolk 2. Def some Jv teams out there ahead of them.

Their own JV team ahead of them

CSH has been class C for years and has won states for two years in a row. They moved down to class D because of their enrollment and it was an overmatch for CM. Nonetheless, CM has proven time and time again that they won in their own division and won against teams ranked higher than them as well.

you are not even allowed to request a lower division. CM not only won in their class but beat bellport, kings park, and improved on all of their scores from the 2019 season against teams they lost horribly to. please learn what you are talking about before trying to discredit the team.

Center moriches has improved on every level since the last time they played as a team. After being ranked almost last to beating teams in their class and out of their class, why discredit the girls after working so hard the entire season? You can’t just sit there and say that after CM had gotten so much better and competed this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Center moriches has improved on every level since the last time they played as a team. After being ranked almost last to beating teams in their class and out of their class, why discredit the girls after working so hard the entire season? You can’t just sit there and say that after CM had gotten so much better and competed this year.

I have no team in the fight. Appears the team had a great season just a tough way to end it with a large loss. Someone mentioned on here that many on the team were juniors and below. Hope the team is able to get some good non conference opponents on the schedule (or even scrimmages) for next year so as to not be caught off guard if CM makes it to the finals. It’s a bad look if the girls are not ready for post season games seeing what just happened in the finals..

[quote=baldbear]Suffolk Class D not in the same caliber of play. CSH was an overmatch. Garden City on paper better than West Babylon. Not surprised by outcomes. Northport’ s tougher game was Smithtown in the Suffolk finals but Massapequa was game today. A good outing.

BPP vs Manhasset was a great game. Watching Manhasset playoff games didn’t really show you how good their defense is. They played down to Wantagh (no offense to Wantagh) in a game that shouldn’t have been that close. BPP a tremendous team and the defense and goalie play incredible. Manhasset showed defense though today. 2-1 BPP half score turned into a 5-2 Manhasset edge. But BPP capitalized on a bad yellow card (it was a correct call by the official) and played a great last 5 of 6 minutes. The last minute, with turnovers and a last second shot, is edge of the seat stuff.

Let’s get back to states next year! Enjoy the rest of your summer! Have fun at tournaments!

Rumor is Manhasset back up to B next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor is Manhasset back up to B next year.

Manhasset enrollment actually dropping from 764 to 728 next year.

The cutoff for B was 775 this year would take a very large change in the classification cutoffs for Manhasset to move back to B.

As a coach you request your seed. Not a division and he requested a lower seed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a coach you request your seed. Not a division and he requested a lower seed.

whatever he did, it blew up in his face. Put your girls in a better position to win sir. Find a way to get them better during the season.

It is so easy to anonymously bash someone on social media. you are obviously completely ignorant as to the process of ranking. CM has been listed at 23 the past few years. You can't request lower then the bottom of the division and coaches vote so if you don't deserve to be in the spot they are in they don't get it. Nothing blew up in anyone's face they won what they set out to win counties. Why do you care so much? Nobody on CM is saying anything about competing with any other divisions or with any of the other teams or that they are better then anyone else. Stop the bashing it is literally ridiculous at this point. And for the person that said CHS is not good. I believe they won in the C division 2 years in a row. That makes them not good?

Played down to Wantagh? Wantagh beat both manhassett and Garden City during the regular season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Played down to Wantagh? Wantagh beat both manhassett and Garden City during the regular season.

Both teams beat them the second time around, including a Manhasset 20-9 beat down. Talent-wise they played down to Wantagh in the championship game.

Have Suffolk All-County and All-American awards been handed out yet? If so does anyone know where the list can be found?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

Center Moriches does not belong in this conversation. A weak team who played even weaker competition.

Agreed! They would be triple downed and on a running clock against any of the other teams. The runner ups and second runner ups should all be ahead, way ahead of them. Glad they had a fairy season, but lets use some common sense!

He absolutely did not this is someone just obviously trying to start trouble. CM was either 22 or 23. I believe he requested higher then the team even got. You can't be lower then the bottom. Doesn't even make sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

Does this not include Catholics? SA would easily
be top 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

Does this not include Catholics? SA would easily
be top 3

sorry it does not. Where do you think they would be ranked here. I don’t follow them as much. Would specifically be interested in SA, Sacred Heart, and Kellenberg.

Congratulations to all the players who earned Under Armour All-American Honors! What a terrific accomplishment!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have Suffolk All-County and All-American awards been handed out yet? If so does anyone know where the list can be found?

Anyone know the answer to this? I know boys awards have been handed out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

Does this not include Catholics? SA would easily
be top 3

sorry it does not. Where do you think they would be ranked here. I don’t follow them as much. Would specifically be interested in SA, Sacred Heart, and Kellenberg.

Thinking SA would be ranked above CSH, Massapequa, and Center Moriches. The others would be all good games. Hopefully we will see when SA gets to play out of conference next year. See how they rank on LI ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final LI Girls Lax Power rankings:

Garden City
BBP
Manhasset
Northport
CSH
Massapequa
Center Moriches

thoughts?

Does this not include Catholics? SA would easily
be top 3

sorry it does not. Where do you think they would be ranked here. I don’t follow them as much. Would specifically be interested in SA, Sacred Heart, and Kellenberg.

Thinking SA would be ranked above CSH, Massapequa, and Center Moriches. The others would be all good games. Hopefully we will see when SA gets to play out of conference next year. See how they rank on LI ?

These power rankings are fine if it only includes the LI championship teams. A team like Wantagh would also be ranked ahead of CSH, Massapequa and CM. They beat CSH twice and Massapequa, plus they split with GC during season. Split with Manhasset during season and lost by 1 goal to Manhasset in county final. Teams like ESM, Smithtown East, West Babylon would also be ranked above some of those teams

I would have loved to see SA play The public’s this year but it wasn’t happening. They were very strong IMO defense was even stronger than the offense (which was fantastic). I can’t wait to see what next year brings

when do AA awards come out for long island. Can someone post them

Does Back of the Cage redo their top 50 list for each class now based on actual performance?

Doubt it, not many of names would still be on the list.

boc list have girls that didn't even make their varisty teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

boc list have girls that didn't even make their varisty teams

True! Hard to have made a list without much playing last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

boc list have girls that didn't even make their varisty teams

True! Hard to have made a list without much playing last year.

Here we go again...

The only lists that actually matter are the lists that the college coaches keep. The recruiting process will tell the player (and the parents) where the player stands in relation to other players in the same graduation year. What schools are making offers?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

boc list have girls that didn't even make their varisty teams

True! Hard to have made a list without much playing last year.

Here we go again...

The only lists that actually matter are the lists that the college coaches keep. The recruiting process will tell the player (and the parents) where the player stands in relation to other players in the same graduation year. What schools are making offers?

Just looked at Newsday College Commitment List for 2019. I understand that the list is not 100% accurate but it does give a pretty good sense of where kids are going to play in college.

There are 164 players on the list.

25 - 30 players went to Traditional Top 20 Programs (UNC, BC, Syracuse, UVA, Penn, Princeton, ND, PSU, Florida, Northwestern, JMU, Loyola etc...)

I realize that there are some excellent players who are offered a spot at some Top Programs who choose not to go but for the most part, the Top Recruits choose to go to the Top College Programs.

My guess is, if the coaches at the best college programs are willing to offer a player a spot that player is probably pretty darn good.

If there were so many other high caliber players choosing to go to programs that are not typically Top 20 then we would not see the same 10-15 schools always ranked in the Top 10-20.

Except for high caliber players that were recovering from an injury.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except for high caliber players that were recovering from an injury.

Not sure what the point of this post is.

LIMLF Founders Cup (whatever that is) final rankings for Nassau girls :

1. Garden City
2. Manhasset
3. Cold Spring Harbor
4. Wantagh
5. Massapequa
6. South Side
7. Sacred Heart
8. Syosset
9. Long Beach
10. Lynbrook

Not terrible but CSH likely 4-5 spots too high. What do you guys think?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LIMLF Founders Cup (whatever that is) final rankings for Nassau girls :

1. Garden City
2. Manhasset
3. Cold Spring Harbor
4. Wantagh
5. Massapequa
6. South Side
7. Sacred Heart
8. Syosset
9. Long Beach
10. Lynbrook

Not terrible but CSH likely 4-5 spots too high. What do you guys think?

what is this ? can't have a top 10 lacrosse list without SA

South Side beat CSH Massapequa and Wantagh twice don’t think they should be that below them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LIMLF Founders Cup (whatever that is) final rankings for Nassau girls :

1. Garden City
2. Manhasset
3. Cold Spring Harbor
4. Wantagh
5. Massapequa
6. South Side
7. Sacred Heart
8. Syosset
9. Long Beach
10. Lynbrook

Not terrible but CSH likely 4-5 spots too high. What do you guys think?

what is this ? can't have a top 10 lacrosse list without SA

That list is nassau only. They had a seperate list for Suffolk

1. BBP
2. Northport
3 SA
4. West Babylon
5. Smithtown East
6. ESM
7. Mt Sanai
8. Sayville
9. Huntington
10. Comsewogue

Southside beat Wantagh once.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

South Side beat CSH Massapequa and Wantagh twice don’t think they should be that below them?

South side had a great year I'd put them ahead of CSH and Pequa. Wantagh is a tossup IMHO

I wish SA had been able to play the public schools this year. It would have been great.

I don’t think there is a list like BOC does for top 50 but some teams already put out who earned all county,conference and division so it must be voted on already by the coaches

Where do you find the list of players receiving the awards?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think there is a list like BOC does for top 50 but some teams already put out who earned all county,conference and division so it must be voted on already by the coaches

Unless things have changed it’s not really voted on by the coaches. Teams are awarded X amount of selections based upon where the Team finished the season (the number 1 team gets more Players than the number 2 team etc...). For the most part it’s up to the coach to pick their players.

Is it Listed ? Where?

Thanks for the reply.I was told by an AD friend of mine that the coaches in your conference actually vote.That would be the correct way to award post season honors.A head varsity coach picking his own players doesn’t make much sense.All that does is bring politics and bias into the decision IMO of course.
Anybody else want to weigh in on their thoughts.Is this just lacrosse all all varsity sports.

Anyone hear if American Select will be postponed due to the impending bad weather? Looks real bad...hopefully they don’t wait till the last minute

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks for the reply.I was told by an AD friend of mine that the coaches in your conference actually vote.That would be the correct way to award post season honors.A head varsity coach picking his own players doesn’t make much sense.All that does is bring politics and bias into the decision IMO of course.
Anybody else want to weigh in on their thoughts.Is this just lacrosse all all varsity sports.

Not 100% accurate, it's not a random vote. Each coach has to nominate his/her own players, how many players a team gets is determined by where that team finishes. You will not see a number 5 team with more All-County players than a number 1 team. There has always been some hourse trading as well... and it is definitely a "you vote for my kid and i will vote for your kid between some coaches"... It is also a little bit of everybody gets a trophy, there are always players from the top teams who do not receive any accolades and there are players who are awarded All-County from weaker teams who would not start on a top team.

The coaches and maybe even the AD's do not like parents to know exactly how it works because they do not like to answer the questions from disgruntled parents. It is much easier for the coach to tell the parent "sorry, she didn't get the votes".

It is also a little bit of everybody gets a trophy, there are always players from the top teams who do not receive any accolades and there are players who are awarded All-County from weaker teams who would not start on a top team.

Such is life, rise above it, and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is also a little bit of everybody gets a trophy, there are always players from the top teams who do not receive any accolades and there are players who are awarded All-County from weaker teams who would not start on a top team.

Such is life, rise above it, and move on.

Kinda like oh let’s say…. All American. UA selection etc. So the better teams with more “slots” don’t get enough accolades. Geez, that seems kinda backwards. And… I’m sure the all county player on the “weaker” team might outplay the stronger team player. Too many better teams get too many player awards and “weaker all county would start on your “stronger” team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is also a little bit of everybody gets a trophy, there are always players from the top teams who do not receive any accolades and there are players who are awarded All-County from weaker teams who would not start on a top team.

Such is life, rise above it, and move on.

Who is not moving on? A question was asked and an answer was given. What is your point?

Newsday has released their Girls All Long Island and being consistent with most list they put out, if you are not junior or senior you get screwed. The best statistical player on Long Island got 2nd team. Other underclassman that had great seasons, better than most of the girls listed, were also left off. Nothing new for Newsday though. If you can have a season like that kid and make second team, Newsday will never put an underclassman on the first team. Congrats to those that made it.

Just saw the Newsday All-Long Island team. What a complete joke. So many girls with ehh seasons picked, where girls who were better than them on their own teams were overlooked. For gods sake the number one leader in points was put on the second team. Seems they like to pick seniors who are committed despite their mediocre season!

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

I disagree. With that attitude the stats are what matters most? We will see a bunch of ball hogs and selfish playing. We will also see coaches padding stat books and Strategically setting offenses to play towards getting those players more numbers. Running up scores. Keeping players in a game Instead of subbing them out and letting bench players get a few shifts.
Don’t say it doesn’t happen. I saw it happen first hand multiple times this season. Tracking stats in a game Just to see inflated numbers reported in the Newsday the following day. On the flip side- Players that had points in a game having those points reduced or reported incorrectly to their disadvantage. What about The team player … Grinding it out between the 30s, The game changers making the scorers look good. By this mantra they will go u recognized.

Newsday barely gets the weather right, O’Brien is eh as a sports reporter at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

Whaaaa! my sophomore wont get her picture in the paper...what are we gonna tell grandma?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

Whaaaa! my sophomore wont get her picture in the paper...what are we gonna tell grandma?

Grandma knows that a bunch of overhyped seniors got participation trophies. One of the major problems with this sport. Stats don't lie. Enjoy that award that you know your daughter didn't deserve! Trust me grandma has first hand witnessed whats wrong with our society!

Has nothing to do with Grandma, it is a consistent pattern across all sports, boys and girls. If they don’t deserve it, they don’t deserve it. If they do deserve it, they should not be discriminated against based on age, grade or what school they go to….there are multiple 9th and 10th graders across all sports that have been deserving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

Whaaaa! my sophomore wont get her picture in the paper...what are we gonna tell grandma?

Grandma knows that a bunch of overhyped seniors got participation trophies. One of the major problems with this sport. Stats don't lie. Enjoy that award that you know your daughter didn't deserve! Trust me grandma has first hand witnessed whats wrong with our society!

"Stats Don't lie" , They do when or if the top point getter is getting them against a Jr high school team. please stop with the newsday stats. when a team gets credited with more assist then goals (happens many times) the stats start to lose credibility.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has nothing to do with Grandma, it is a consistent pattern across all sports, boys and girls. If they don’t deserve it, they don’t deserve it. If they do deserve it, they should not be discriminated against based on age, grade or what school they go to….there are multiple 9th and 10th graders across all sports that have been deserving.

Agree 100 % but newsday stats are a terrible indicator as to Who the best players on LI are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has nothing to do with Grandma, it is a consistent pattern across all sports, boys and girls. If they don’t deserve it, they don’t deserve it. If they do deserve it, they should not be discriminated against based on age, grade or what school they go to….there are multiple 9th and 10th graders across all sports that have been deserving.

And if those 9th and 10th graders are consistent all 4 years they will make these lists in Junior and Senior years..

Not just one, but many of these players were not even the best players on their own team. Not sure if that is funny or sad. When you watch many of these different teams and these players all year long, you know which players deserve and which players don't. Then this list just leaves everyone in the know, scratching their heads on many of the selections. The politics of LI lacrosse, it will never change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not just one, but many of these players were not even the best players on their own team. Not sure if that is funny or sad. When you watch many of these different teams and these players all year long, you know which players deserve and which players don't. Then this list just leaves everyone in the know, scratching their heads on many of the selections. The politics of LI lacrosse, it will never change.

That's your opinion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not just one, but many of these players were not even the best players on their own team. Not sure if that is funny or sad. When you watch many of these different teams and these players all year long, you know which players deserve and which players don't. Then this list just leaves everyone in the know, scratching their heads on many of the selections. The politics of LI lacrosse, it will never change.

Guess you have to be on a playoff team to get picked.
Ridiculous that so many players from teams that don’t make playoffs are left off list.

We all know the padding of the stats as well as players and coaches running up the score on weak teams by keeping starters in the whole game or going to goal every time.What gets me is how can teams be awarded power points in the standings for what it did a season or two ago right before the playoff brackets come out.It’s shady business and points should be awarded at the beginning of the season so everybody in the division knows the deal.
If I’m not mistaken is lax the only sport that does this.Makes zero sense to give points from a previous season and why don’t everybody play each other during the year so head to head actually means something as a criteria for seeding.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not just one, but many of these players were not even the best players on their own team. Not sure if that is funny or sad. When you watch many of these different teams and these players all year long, you know which players deserve and which players don't. Then this list just leaves everyone in the know, scratching their heads on many of the selections. The politics of LI lacrosse, it will never change.

That's your opinion

It's a FACT, and it's not even close. EVERYONE knows it. Just embarrassing for the sport!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not just one, but many of these players were not even the best players on their own team. Not sure if that is funny or sad. When you watch many of these different teams and these players all year long, you know which players deserve and which players don't. Then this list just leaves everyone in the know, scratching their heads on many of the selections. The politics of LI lacrosse, it will never change.

That's your opinion

Absolutely horrible! Several of the chosen girls were out half the season with injuries, and when they returned, they didn't do much. Sick of the participation trophies for seniors. Earn it get it. Most of these girls will disappear college and never be heard from again, weak class. Shame on Newsday!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

Whaaaa! my sophomore wont get her picture in the paper...what are we gonna tell grandma?

Grandma knows that a bunch of overhyped seniors got participation trophies. One of the major problems with this sport. Stats don't lie. Enjoy that award that you know your daughter didn't deserve! Trust me grandma has first hand witnessed whats wrong with our society!

"Stats Don't lie" , They do when or if the top point getter is getting them against a Jr high school team. please stop with the newsday stats. when a team gets credited with more assist then goals (happens many times) the stats start to lose credibility.

THIS. So much. I know a girl in MD (my state) that got 13 goals in one game purely so they could make sure she reached 200 for her career because their next game in the playoffs was against a quality team that could (and did) crush them. It happens everywhere.

Stats are a big part of the story, but not all of it. People pay way too much attention to numbers that can easily be fudged.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

Whaaaa! my sophomore wont get her picture in the paper...what are we gonna tell grandma?

Grandma knows that a bunch of overhyped seniors got participation trophies. One of the major problems with this sport. Stats don't lie. Enjoy that award that you know your daughter didn't deserve! Trust me grandma has first hand witnessed whats wrong with our society!

"Stats Don't lie" , They do when or if the top point getter is getting them against a Jr high school team. please stop with the newsday stats. when a team gets credited with more assist then goals (happens many times) the stats start to lose credibility.

THIS. So much. I know a girl in MD (my state) that got 13 goals in one game purely so they could make sure she reached 200 for her career because their next game in the playoffs was against a quality team that could (and did) crush them. It happens everywhere.

Stats are a big part of the story, but not all of it. People pay way too much attention to numbers that can easily be fudged.

When I said Stats don’t lie, I meant against quality teams. Otherwise Center Moriches girls would have been All-LI. I was more referring to stats against your own teammates

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not just one, but many of these players were not even the best players on their own team. Not sure if that is funny or sad. When you watch many of these different teams and these players all year long, you know which players deserve and which players don't. Then this list just leaves everyone in the know, scratching their heads on many of the selections. The politics of LI lacrosse, it will never change.

That's your opinion

Absolutely horrible! Several of the chosen girls were out half the season with injuries, and when they returned, they didn't do much. Sick of the participation trophies for seniors. Earn it get it. Most of these girls will disappear college and never be heard from again, weak class. Shame on Newsday!

Well I guess Grandma has a direct line to the Newsday editors office… your leading scorer “flopped” from team 2 to team 1…

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not just one, but many of these players were not even the best players on their own team. Not sure if that is funny or sad. When you watch many of these different teams and these players all year long, you know which players deserve and which players don't. Then this list just leaves everyone in the know, scratching their heads on many of the selections. The politics of LI lacrosse, it will never change.

That's your opinion

Absolutely horrible! Several of the chosen girls were out half the season with injuries, and when they returned, they didn't do much. Sick of the participation trophies for seniors. Earn it get it. Most of these girls will disappear college and never be heard from again, weak class. Shame on Newsday!

Well I guess Grandma has a direct line to the Newsday editors office… your leading scorer “flopped” from team 2 to team 1…

Newsday is an embarrassment! They should go by the post season awards, not some random list they pull out of their *

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

How can you not be selected for All-county but be selected to All-long island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

Whaaaa! my sophomore wont get her picture in the paper...what are we gonna tell grandma?

Grandma knows that a bunch of overhyped seniors got participation trophies. One of the major problems with this sport. Stats don't lie. Enjoy that award that you know your daughter didn't deserve! Trust me grandma has first hand witnessed whats wrong with our society!

"Stats Don't lie" , They do when or if the top point getter is getting them against a Jr high school team. please stop with the newsday stats. when a team gets credited with more assist then goals (happens many times) the stats start to lose credibility.

THIS. So much. I know a girl in MD (my state) that got 13 goals in one game purely so they could make sure she reached 200 for her career because their next game in the playoffs was against a quality team that could (and did) crush them. It happens everywhere.

Stats are a big part of the story, but not all of it. People pay way too much attention to numbers that can easily be fudged.

So all this talk about stats are important, stat padding etc...
Stats do not seem to matter at all in the selection of these players. Newsday's Player of the Year did not even finish on the stats list that they keep. The statistics they keep truly are meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

Is there a place to see a list of the AA awards from both Nassau and Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

How can you not be selected for All-county but be selected to All-long island.

All-County is given out/selected by your daughters HS Coach, how your daughter Team finished the season will determine how many selections / nominations your daughters coach gets.

All-Long Island is given out / selected by Newsday.

Lacrosse is not wrestling, tennis or track, these awards are all subjective. These Awards are not solely based on perceived player performance. Opinion and politics also play a role in all of the honors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday has never been known for in depth research and and reporting. It is an individual award not a who do I play for or am I committed award. I am sure some colleges are reevaluating their commitment decisions after such ok seasons by their commits.
Individual stats and results from a particular season (2021) is all Newsday should be looking at, but we all know that is not true.

Whaaaa! my sophomore wont get her picture in the paper...what are we gonna tell grandma?

Grandma knows that a bunch of overhyped seniors got participation trophies. One of the major problems with this sport. Stats don't lie. Enjoy that award that you know your daughter didn't deserve! Trust me grandma has first hand witnessed whats wrong with our society!

"Stats Don't lie" , They do when or if the top point getter is getting them against a Jr high school team. please stop with the newsday stats. when a team gets credited with more assist then goals (happens many times) the stats start to lose credibility.

THIS. So much. I know a girl in MD (my state) that got 13 goals in one game purely so they could make sure she reached 200 for her career because their next game in the playoffs was against a quality team that could (and did) crush them. It happens everywhere.

Stats are a big part of the story, but not all of it. People pay way too much attention to numbers that can easily be fudged.

So all this talk about stats are important, stat padding etc...
Stats do not seem to matter at all in the selection of these players. Newsday's Player of the Year did not even finish on the stats list that they keep. The statistics they keep truly are meaningless.

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

How can you not be selected for All-county but be selected to All-long island.

All-County is given out/selected by your daughters HS Coach, how your daughter Team finished the season will determine how many selections / nominations your daughters coach gets.

All-Long Island is given out / selected by Newsday.

Lacrosse is not wrestling, tennis or track, these awards are all subjective. These Awards are not solely based on perceived player performance. Opinion and politics also play a role in all of the honors.

Which makes the Newsday award that much more dubious. If your own coach doesn’t think a player is An All-county player how does Newsday come to conclusion that same player is All-long island player. Appears that if your team didn’t make playoffs you weren’t selected by Newsday. But that’s LI Lax politics. Been that way a long time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

How can you not be selected for All-county but be selected to All-long island.

All-County is given out/selected by your daughters HS Coach, how your daughter Team finished the season will determine how many selections / nominations your daughters coach gets.

All-Long Island is given out / selected by Newsday.

Lacrosse is not wrestling, tennis or track, these awards are all subjective. These Awards are not solely based on perceived player performance. Opinion and politics also play a role in all of the honors.

Which makes the Newsday award that much more dubious. If your own coach doesn’t think a player is An All-county player how does Newsday come to conclusion that same player is All-long island player. Appears that if your team didn’t make playoffs you weren’t selected by Newsday. But that’s LI Lax politics. Been that way a long time.

First time I’ve ever seen a complaint lead to a change in the list. What the heck is going on?? Who complained? What is their tie to Newsday? And Newsday wonders why nobody reads their paper anymore. Unbelievable!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

How can you not be selected for All-county but be selected to All-long island.

All-County is given out/selected by your daughters HS Coach, how your daughter Team finished the season will determine how many selections / nominations your daughters coach gets.

All-Long Island is given out / selected by Newsday.

Lacrosse is not wrestling, tennis or track, these awards are all subjective. These Awards are not solely based on perceived player performance. Opinion and politics also play a role in all of the honors.

Which makes the Newsday award that much more dubious. If your own coach doesn’t think a player is An All-county player how does Newsday come to conclusion that same player is All-long island player. Appears that if your team didn’t make playoffs you weren’t selected by Newsday. But that’s LI Lax politics. Been that way a long time.

First time I’ve ever seen a complaint lead to a change in the list. What the heck is going on?? Who complained? What is their tie to Newsday? And Newsday wonders why nobody reads their paper anymore. Unbelievable!

What was changed? Please elaborate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about those All-American Awards! Strange that you can be on All-LI, but not be an All-American? Great job Newsday!

How can you not be selected for All-county but be selected to All-long island.

All-County is given out/selected by your daughters HS Coach, how your daughter Team finished the season will determine how many selections / nominations your daughters coach gets.

All-Long Island is given out / selected by Newsday.

Lacrosse is not wrestling, tennis or track, these awards are all subjective. These Awards are not solely based on perceived player performance. Opinion and politics also play a role in all of the honors.

Which makes the Newsday award that much more dubious. If your own coach doesn’t think a player is An All-county player how does Newsday come to conclusion that same player is All-long island player. Appears that if your team didn’t make playoffs you weren’t selected by Newsday. But that’s LI Lax politics. Been that way a long time.

First time I’ve ever seen a complaint lead to a change in the list. What the heck is going on?? Who complained? What is their tie to Newsday? And Newsday wonders why nobody reads their paper anymore. Unbelievable!

What was changed? Please elaborate.

Girl who was on second team was mysteriously moved to the first team after someone obviously complained.

I was at a tournament last week and over heard some coaches talking about the recent weak tournament performances and lack luster HS seasons from some of their commits. Any current commit should be concerned with that…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

If stats matter, then there were others who outmatched the person going to BC…. Yellow Jackets political connections….

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If stats matter, then there were others who outmatched the person going to BC…. Yellow Jackets political connections….

Ugh you just realized that YJ coaches coach various varsity teams on LI and when its time for post season awards they vote for the bee regardless of stats....:

As for the 21 commits go look at all the overhyped YJ commits and who showed up....

You do not hear that! Please stop your nonsense.

I do agree with many 21 yj are overhyped. But they did get into many great schools. So kudos to them. Its nice to have rose back you. I have seen many 21s from clubs like Elevate blue liberty and top guns black our perform yj girls. And unfortunately do get over looked at many events in the past. Rose has juice it is what it is. Meanwhile was told some Elevate girls got all american and none were on all long island. Why because names have definitely been hyped up over the years. That is truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do agree with many 21 yj are overhyped. But they did get into many great schools. So kudos to them. Its nice to have rose back you. I have seen many 21s from clubs like Elevate blue liberty and top guns black our perform yj girls. And unfortunately do get over looked at many events in the past. Rose has juice it is what it is. Meanwhile was told some Elevate girls got all american and none were on all long island. Why because names have definitely been hyped up over the years. That is truth.

Agree 100%. The HS coaches who also coach YJ have created a terrible political and conflict of interest situation which has extended to UA selections, school girls selection, HS County awards etc. 3rd daughter to go thru the process and I think it has gotten worse. The inflated bio’s and overhyped players will continue and realistically I don’t see it changing. Good luck to those HS players going forward. Thankful it’s over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do agree with many 21 yj are overhyped. But they did get into many great schools. So kudos to them. Its nice to have rose back you. I have seen many 21s from clubs like Elevate blue liberty and top guns black our perform yj girls. And unfortunately do get over looked at many events in the past. Rose has juice it is what it is. Meanwhile was told some Elevate girls got all american and none were on all long island. Why because names have definitely been hyped up over the years. That is truth.

Still making excuses after all these years as to why your daughter isn't and didn't get looks and offers.... get over it already. Most of the YJ 21's will do just fine in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do agree with many 21 yj are overhyped. But they did get into many great schools. So kudos to them. Its nice to have rose back you. I have seen many 21s from clubs like Elevate blue liberty and top guns black our perform yj girls. And unfortunately do get over looked at many events in the past. Rose has juice it is what it is. Meanwhile was told some Elevate girls got all american and none were on all long island. Why because names have definitely been hyped up over the years. That is truth.

Still making excuses after all these years as to why your daughter isn't and didn't get looks and offers.... get over it already. Most of the YJ 21's will do just fine in college.

Actually, most will disappear, they were out played by sophomores! Too slow and unmotivated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do agree with many 21 yj are overhyped. But they did get into many great schools. So kudos to them. Its nice to have rose back you. I have seen many 21s from clubs like Elevate blue liberty and top guns black our perform yj girls. And unfortunately do get over looked at many events in the past. Rose has juice it is what it is. Meanwhile was told some Elevate girls got all american and none were on all long island. Why because names have definitely been hyped up over the years. That is truth.

Still making excuses after all these years as to why your daughter isn't and didn't get looks and offers.... get over it already. Most of the YJ 21's will do just fine in college.

Actually, most will disappear, they were out played by sophomores! Too slow and unmotivated.

Actually I saw a ton of really great 21’s this year. Just the most “pushed” down your throat girls were just that, YJ political players. CR is the most powerful force in girls lacrosse, she has a small handful of girls every year that get her thrust. A few deservedly so, and most not even close. This will go on until other LI clubs can step up politically and strip some power away. Sorry to tell you all this is decades in the making and your “other” club is many years away from getting a fair shake. Call it one of the benefits of playing for YJs. It a huge obstacle for everyone else not on YJs including other YJ players not on her kiss butt list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Both good players but the best player in Suffolk this year played for West Babylon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Both good players but the best player in Suffolk this year played for West Babylon.

What hurt WB was their weak schedule. Padding stats against mostly low tier teams should not get you any awards. With your line of thought, the CM girls should have gotten some post season accolades too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

Easy to play on good teams surrounded by good players. All of a sudden goals and assists are easier, draw controls easier. How are midfielders/defenders chosen for their defensive abilities when their teams play zone? Try playing on lower tier teams that dont have good players. Try playing for non YJ coaches who have no political influence. In addition if your team isnt in playoffs never mind win counties or LIC you have no chance for selection.

Actually, while an outstanding athlete, the WB Soph was completely shut down by BBP middies without face guarding. She is great, but against great players looked pedestrian.

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a true leader.
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, while an outstanding athlete, the WB Soph was completely shut down by BBP middies without face guarding. She is great, but against great players looked pedestrian.

Zone!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a true leader.
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Agree. BBP plays a zone. Stop with the great 1v1 defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a true leader.
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, while an outstanding athlete, the WB Soph was completely shut down by BBP middies without face guarding. She is great, but against great players looked pedestrian.

Not even close. Pedestrian is a ridiculous comment. Kid is a work horse and so talented. I’m not from WB, but you can hear the whole opposing sideline commenting on how great the kid is during the game. Let’s not minimize this kid. We should be supporting all these girls, none of you would want your kids spoken about like this on this forum.

The Ward Melville player is the best player on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a true leader.
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

WB is the only school this year to record more assists than goals in game. You have to question how legit the stats are.

It’s called stat padding you fool! If that’s all you got out of the the statement then move along, you’re clueless! I have personally heard her yell derogatory comments to her teammates on numerous occasions!
As far as YJ 21 overrated, you all must be fools if you think for one moment a top D1 program is going to give a scholarship to an overrated player because CR said to! You do that more than once or twice and you’re fired! Get a clue before you come on here ranting your BS! Your daughter didn’t make it! Move along!

The comment was she is “an outstanding athlete” and “she is great” . NO ONE put her down. The comment was that against excellent players (not 1 v1) she looked “pedestrian”. That is a fact against BBP’s middies and zone. Shots from 12 meters usually don’t go in. No one minimized her...just stated a fact and opinion. That what this forum is for. Not slander.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s called stat padding you fool! If that’s all you got out of the the statement then move along, you’re clueless! I have personally heard her yell derogatory comments to her teammates on numerous occasions!
As far as YJ 21 overrated, you all must be fools if you think for one moment a top D1 program is going to give a scholarship to an overrated player because CR said to! You do that more than once or twice and you’re fired! Get a clue before you come on here ranting your BS! Your daughter didn’t make it! Move along!

You are correct about the coaches at the Top D1 Programs. They do not take orders from CR or anyone else. The coaches at the best (Top 10-20) programs identify the best HS players and they offer them a spot. The reason the same 10-15 programs are always Too 10-20 is because they get the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

So explain the FACT that WB had more assists than goals??? Stat padding!!!
Go ahead I’ll wait!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

So explain the FACT that WB had more assists than goals??? Stat padding!!!
Go ahead I’ll wait!

She may have had the most assists, even though that number was clearly inflated by her coach, but they were against weak teams. Against good teams she never did much. I would still like to know how her Dad got Newsday to change her from second to first team??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

So explain the FACT that WB had more assists than goals??? Stat padding!!!
Go ahead I’ll wait!

She may have had the most assists, even though that number was clearly inflated by her coach, but they were against weak teams. Against good teams she never did much. I would still like to know how her Dad got Newsday to change her from second to first team??

The Jesters coach is the HS coach and allows this nonsense to go on at HS and club level (jesters). Inflated stats and the whole team catering to one player..... no wonder WB and Jesters will not be successful. Spring, HS, summer when playing against equal players..... average player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ward Melville player is the best player on LI.

So here’s the problem, wether you want to choose the girl you mention above or the girl who won, or any of the other dozen girls in the senior class who are all legit players, all very good. But there are no superstars among them. Choose any of them and you could make an argument for them and obviously against them. Many years you have a girl or two who are just a level above, makes this discussion a bit easier. It’s easy to get caught up in the history of the names and the lists and the selections over the years, if it were simply based on performance from this year on the HS field, you may want to start a new list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ward Melville player is the best player on LI.

So here’s the problem, wether you want to choose the girl you mention above or the girl who won, or any of the other dozen girls in the senior class who are all legit players, all very good. But there are no superstars among them. Choose any of them and you could make an argument for them and obviously against them. Many years you have a girl or two who are just a level above, makes this discussion a bit easier. It’s easy to get caught up in the history of the names and the lists and the selections over the years, if it were simply based on performance from this year on the HS field, you may want to start a new list.

WM girl had a tough year. Not a contender

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

So explain the FACT that WB had more assists than goals??? Stat padding!!!
Go ahead I’ll wait!

She may have had the most assists, even though that number was clearly inflated by her coach, but they were against weak teams. Against good teams she never did much. I would still like to know how her Dad got Newsday to change her from second to first team??

The Jesters coach is the HS coach and allows this nonsense to go on at HS and club level (jesters). Inflated stats and the whole team catering to one player..... no wonder WB and Jesters will not be successful. Spring, HS, summer when playing against equal players..... average player.

Wow u need serious help
Hope ur a kid n not an adult posting this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

So explain the FACT that WB had more assists than goals??? Stat padding!!!
Go ahead I’ll wait!

She may have had the most assists, even though that number was clearly inflated by her coach, but they were against weak teams. Against good teams she never did much. I would still like to know how her Dad got Newsday to change her from second to first team??

The Jesters coach is the HS coach and allows this nonsense to go on at HS and club level (jesters). Inflated stats and the whole team catering to one player..... no wonder WB and Jesters will not be successful. Spring, HS, summer when playing against equal players..... average player.

Quite the contrary, that coach is amazing. All the kids that I know that have worked with her, or have been coached by her, have nothing but great things to say.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

So explain the FACT that WB had more assists than goals??? Stat padding!!!
Go ahead I’ll wait!

She may have had the most assists, even though that number was clearly inflated by her coach, but they were against weak teams. Against good teams she never did much. I would still like to know how her Dad got Newsday to change her from second to first team??

The Jesters coach is the HS coach and allows this nonsense to go on at HS and club level (jesters). Inflated stats and the whole team catering to one player..... no wonder WB and Jesters will not be successful. Spring, HS, summer when playing against equal players..... average player.

Quite the contrary, that coach is amazing. All the kids that I know that have worked with her, or have been coached by her, have nothing but great things to say.

Agree with that!
Smells like some mad jealous people

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

There are definitely a lot of people who get frustrated with the shenanigans that go on in lacrosse. I wouldn't necessarily say they are jealous. Some valid points have been brought up, with no answers offered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

There are definitely a lot of people who get frustrated with the shenanigans that go on in lacrosse. I wouldn't necessarily say they are jealous. Some valid points have been brought up, with no answers offered.

What valid points?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

There are definitely a lot of people who get frustrated with the shenanigans that go on in lacrosse. I wouldn't necessarily say they are jealous. Some valid points have been brought up, with no answers offered.

What valid points?

* More assists than goals, how is that possible??
* Plays a weak non-competitive schedule not nearly impressive than the schedule others play. No other stat leader playing a weak schedule received these accolades (ex/ Center Moriches)
* Newsday changes an accolade after it's been posted?
* Easy to shine as a good player playing a weak schedule when the team revolves around one player.

Point is, many other girls equal or better. There is no phenom here!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

There are definitely a lot of people who get frustrated with the shenanigans that go on in lacrosse. I wouldn't necessarily say they are jealous. Some valid points have been brought up, with no answers offered.

What valid points?

* More assists than goals, how is that possible??
* Plays a weak non-competitive schedule not nearly impressive than the schedule others play. No other stat leader playing a weak schedule received these accolades (ex/ Center Moriches)
* Newsday changes an accolade after it's been posted?
* Easy to shine as a good player playing a weak schedule when the team revolves around one player.

Point is, many other girls equal or better. There is no phenom here!

Same complaints every year... some parents just can’t take it when other players are recognized as being a stronger player than their daughter. You should have had your daughter run track.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

There are definitely a lot of people who get frustrated with the shenanigans that go on in lacrosse. I wouldn't necessarily say they are jealous. Some valid points have been brought up, with no answers offered.

What valid points?

* More assists than goals, how is that possible??
* Plays a weak non-competitive schedule not nearly impressive than the schedule others play. No other stat leader playing a weak schedule received these accolades (ex/ Center Moriches)
* Newsday changes an accolade after it's been posted?
* Easy to shine as a good player playing a weak schedule when the team revolves around one player.

Point is, many other girls equal or better. There is no phenom here!

Same complaints every year... some parents just can’t take it when other players are recognized as being a stronger player than their daughter. You should have had your daughter run track.

LOL!! You just don't get it. That's Ok keep your rose colored glasses on. Truth reveals itself eventually!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

There are definitely a lot of people who get frustrated with the shenanigans that go on in lacrosse. I wouldn't necessarily say they are jealous. Some valid points have been brought up, with no answers offered.

What valid points?

* More assists than goals, how is that possible??
* Plays a weak non-competitive schedule not nearly impressive than the schedule others play. No other stat leader playing a weak schedule received these accolades (ex/ Center Moriches)
* Newsday changes an accolade after it's been posted?
* Easy to shine as a good player playing a weak schedule when the team revolves around one player.

Point is, many other girls equal or better. There is no phenom here!

Same complaints every year... some parents just can’t take it when other players are recognized as being a stronger player than their daughter. You should have had your daughter run track.

LOL!! You just don't get it. That's Ok keep your rose colored glasses on. Truth reveals itself eventually!

Weak sched?
You’re completely clueless
Any team ranked in the top eight Play everyone ranked top 10.
MS Bayport Esm sayville westhampton comswogue Harborfields WI SWR
Yeah these are all very weak schools
😂

Weak sched?
You’re completely clueless
Any team ranked in the top eight Play everyone ranked top 10.
MS Bayport Esm sayville westhampton comswogue Harborfields WI SWR
Yeah these are all very weak schools
😂[/quote]

Yes, weak! Look at the BBP and GC games/scores and you will see why the league was not strong this year. All those other teams you mentioned were competitive amongst themselves, but not against the better teams. They were like a JV team in comparison. As I recall, LI championship was a blowout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ward Melville player is the best player on LI.

So here’s the problem, wether you want to choose the girl you mention above or the girl who won, or any of the other dozen girls in the senior class who are all legit players, all very good. But there are no superstars among them. Choose any of them and you could make an argument for them and obviously against them. Many years you have a girl or two who are just a level above, makes this discussion a bit easier. It’s easy to get caught up in the history of the names and the lists and the selections over the years, if it were simply based on performance from this year on the HS field, you may want to start a new list.

WM girl had a tough year. Not a contender

There were others in WM division that beat her. Just because she's going to a top lacrosse program doesn't mean she performed well this year. Of course the school and YJ connection had the biggest part of this pick. Funny if she was so great, she certainly didn't get the job done on the circle especially in the Sachem East game and in OT....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shortage of “mad jealous people” in the world of girls / women’s lacrosse.

There are definitely a lot of people who get frustrated with the shenanigans that go on in lacrosse. I wouldn't necessarily say they are jealous. Some valid points have been brought up, with no answers offered.

What valid points?

* More assists than goals, how is that possible??
* Plays a weak non-competitive schedule not nearly impressive than the schedule others play. No other stat leader playing a weak schedule received these accolades (ex/ Center Moriches)
* Newsday changes an accolade after it's been posted?
* Easy to shine as a good player playing a weak schedule when the team revolves around one player.

Point is, many other girls equal or better. There is no phenom here!

Same complaints every year... some parents just can’t take it when other players are recognized as being a stronger player than their daughter. You should have had your daughter run track.

LOL!! You just don't get it. That's Ok keep your rose colored glasses on. Truth reveals itself eventually!

What don't they get? All of the awards are opinion.

Can someone please post the all county, all conf etc list? Is a secret ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please post the all county, all conf etc list? Is a secret ?

I'd like to know the same. Don't understand why it's such a big mystery!!

Not making excuses. My daughter had many offers and going div 1. i stated a fact that having Rose backing you gets your name out there more then other clubs. Its a fact. many girls from these other clubs absolutely get over looked, and are better players then yj 21s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a true leader.
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

WB is the only school this year to record more assists than goals in game. You have to question how legit the stats are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She killed West Babylon! One man show. Shooting from the 12. Selfish, forcing shots, flopping, frustrates easily. Yells at her teammates.
The BBP girl dominates on the draw, plays great defense, passes when she is doubled, scores when she’s not, works her butt off on ground balls, a motivator, a true leader.
BBP was a complete team. West Babylon was a one man show!

Whatever you didn’t watch equaled a county championship along with most assists in suffolk
😂

Ummmm … how accurate was the stats this year? Not a great job on my daughters team of keeping stats. Some of the girls were robbed as stats were not kept well at all. I felt bad for the players who were not credited for their hard work. Seems like On some other teams, it seems like stats were inflated? How can these stats be taken seriously if there is not a better way for it to be more fair in reporting them. I think If stats were Logged accurately, Many of the girls on 2nd team would be on 1st over some who are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, while an outstanding athlete, the WB Soph was completely shut down by BBP middies without face guarding. She is great, but against great players looked pedestrian.

Think some of the other Srs.and Juniors who ended up on 2nd team deserved to be on 1st team and were not. SA Junior was phenomenal all around player. I Think she got robbed on stats as they did not seem recorded well for that team. If her stats were recorded accurately, she would no doubt belong on first team. Great player and no! She’s not my daughter!

Well there’s no better sign that AS is a huge money grab than them having 2 teams at each grade from Long Island. So 44 girls from each grade made the team. So much for it being for only the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well there’s no better sign that AS is a huge money grab than them having 2 teams at each grade from Long Island. So 44 girls from each grade made the team. So much for it being for only the best players.

The AS website states:

“Each region will have 4 teams, one per age group”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well there’s no better sign that AS is a huge money grab than them having 2 teams at each grade from Long Island. So 44 girls from each grade made the team. So much for it being for only the best players.

LI full of lacrosse talent. I’m sure the 44 LI girls chosen, can play with the best from the rest of the country. I guess we will see how they do. It’s a shame the whole UA / AS stuff is competing with each other

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well there’s no better sign that AS is a huge money grab than them having 2 teams at each grade from Long Island. So 44 girls from each grade made the team. So much for it being for only the best players.

The AS website states:

“Each region will have 4 teams, one per age group”

Yeah and then they went and made 7 teams on Long island. 1 2022 team and 2 teams at the 2023/2024/2025 levels. Anytime you put a $600 price tag on playing in an event it's amazing how they can find a way to bring in more kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well there’s no better sign that AS is a huge money grab than them having 2 teams at each grade from Long Island. So 44 girls from each grade made the team. So much for it being for only the best players.

LI full of lacrosse talent. I’m sure the 44 LI girls chosen, can play with the best from the rest of the country. I guess we will see how they do. It’s a shame the whole UA / AS stuff is competing with each other

The same is true in MD. Why is only LI doing this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well there’s no better sign that AS is a huge money grab than them having 2 teams at each grade from Long Island. So 44 girls from each grade made the team. So much for it being for only the best players.

The AS website states:

“Each region will have 4 teams, one per age group”

Yeah and then they went and made 7 teams on Long island. 1 2022 team and 2 teams at the 2023/2024/2025 levels. Anytime you put a $600 price tag on playing in an event it's amazing how they can find a way to bring in more kids.

They should have been upfront with people. Not right!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well there’s no better sign that AS is a huge money grab than them having 2 teams at each grade from Long Island. So 44 girls from each grade made the team. So much for it being for only the best players.

The AS website states:

“Each region will have 4 teams, one per age group”

Yeah and then they went and made 7 teams on Long island. 1 2022 team and 2 teams at the 2023/2024/2025 levels. Anytime you put a $600 price tag on playing in an event it's amazing how they can find a way to bring in more kids.

They should have been upfront with people. Not right!

Going with 2 teams will certainly water down the competitiveness of each team but going head to head with UA really makes 3 teams.... most likely the top talent will be spread out, everybody can say they made a team but it will now be "everybody gets a trophy". Sorry, but there are not 65+ legitimate "Top Tier Players" from each grad year from Long Island. Even if there was a way to select the "best" which there is not 65 plus players is just too many... The Good news is that if the Top 30 or so try out they will all most likely make one of the teams...

This sport is just screwed up...

The good news is that there is tremendous opportunity out there for all of the girls who want to play.

adding a 2nd team and changing coaches was not rt

Congratulations!

Under Armour All-American Senior Girls.

North

Attack

Rachel Clark, Conestoga (Pa.), Virginia
Mckenna Davis, Canandaigua Academy (N.Y.), Boston College
Alexis Lauricella, St. John Vianney (N.J.), Harvard
Emma LoPinto, Manhasset (N.Y.), Florida
Shira Parower, Staples (Conn.), James Madison

Attack/Midfield

Brooke Hoss, Sayville (N.Y.), Penn State

Midfield

Summer Agostino, Ward Melville (N.Y.), Boston College
McKenzie Blake, Haddonfield (N.J.), Princeton
Chase Boyle, Rumson Fair Haven (N.J.), Loyola
Samantha Forrest, Glastonbury (Conn.), North Carolina
Kylie Gelabert, Victor (N.Y.), Cornell
Natasha Gorriaran, Moses Brown (R.I.), Penn
Mallory Hasselbeck, The Rivers School (Mass.), Boston College
Jordyn Lipkin, Millburn (N.J.), Maryland
Maddigan Miller, Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.), Stanford
Nina Montes, St. Ignatius College Prep (Ill.), Princeton
Olivia Pikiell, Ridge (N.J.), North Carolina
Grace Weigand, Regis Jesuit (Colo.), Notre Dame

Defense

Celeste Forte, Eastport-South Manor (N.Y.), Florida
McKenna Harden, New Canaan (Conn.), North Carolina
Margaret Lawler, Moorestown (N.J.), Ohio State
Alexis Niblock, Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.), USC

Goalie

Kennedy Everson, Phillips Academy Andover (Mass.), Duke
Tia Reaman, Phillips Exeter (N.H.), Princeton

South

Attack

Olivia Adamson, Lake Highland Prep (Fla.), Syracuse
Maddie Dora, Milton (Ga.), USC
Caitlin McElwee, St. Paul's School for Girls (Md.), James Madison
Kate Miller, Atlee (Va.), Virginia
Hailey Russo, Clearview (N.J.), Maryland

Midfield

Jordyn Case, Weddington (N.C.), Stanford
Jade Catlin, Middletown (Md.), Virginia Tech
Annabel Frist, St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.), Stanford
Christina Gagnon, St. Paul's School for Girls (Md.), USC
Demma Hall, Century (Md.), Maryland
Emily Messinese, Gerstell (Md.), Navy
Grace Muldoon, Stone Ridge (Md.), Richmond
Kerry Nease, Freeman (Va.), Duke
Mattie Shearer, Western Albemarle (Va.), Duke
Samantha Smith, Tamalpais (Calif.), Northwestern
Madison Sterling, John Carroll (Md.), Maryland
Sammy White, Dulaney (Md.), Northwestern

Defense

Paris Colgain, St. Paul's School for Girls (Md.), Johns Hopkins
Shannon Garvey, Unionville (Pa.), Virginia
Kennedy Major, Gerstell (Md.), Maryland
Haley Polk, Gerstell (Md.), Michigan
Reilly Traynor, Red Bank Catholic (N.J.), Duke

Goalie

Emily Lamparter, Mt. Sinai (N.Y.), Maryland
Leah Warehime, St. Paul's School for Girls (Md.), Georgetown

Looks like they axed the 2022 team at AS.. ( as they should) since there were only 5-6 players in that age group who showed up at tryout

Who's idea was to hold UA tryouts the day after the Mid Atlantic games. Some girls are playing up to 6 games today, and won't be home until after midnight. So dense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ward Melville player is the best player on LI.

So here’s the problem, wether you want to choose the girl you mention above or the girl who won, or any of the other dozen girls in the senior class who are all legit players, all very good. But there are no superstars among them. Choose any of them and you could make an argument for them and obviously against them. Many years you have a girl or two who are just a level above, makes this discussion a bit easier. It’s easy to get caught up in the history of the names and the lists and the selections over the years, if it were simply based on performance from this year on the HS field, you may want to start a new list.

WM girl had a tough year. Not a contender

There were others in WM division that beat her. Just because she's going to a top lacrosse program doesn't mean she performed well this year. Of course the school and YJ connection had the biggest part of this pick. Funny if she was so great, she certainly didn't get the job done on the circle especially in the Sachem East game and in OT....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ward Melville player is the best player on LI.

So here’s the problem, wether you want to choose the girl you mention above or the girl who won, or any of the other dozen girls in the senior class who are all legit players, all very good. But there are no superstars among them. Choose any of them and you could make an argument for them and obviously against them. Many years you have a girl or two who are just a level above, makes this discussion a bit easier. It’s easy to get caught up in the history of the names and the lists and the selections over the years, if it were simply based on performance from this year on the HS field, you may want to start a new list.

WM girl had a tough year. Not a contender

There were others in WM division that beat her. Just because she's going to a top lacrosse program doesn't mean she performed well this year. Of course the school and YJ connection had the biggest part of this pick. Funny if she was so great, she certainly didn't get the job done on the circle especially in the Sachem East game and in OT....

Are you really still talking? This Sachem dad never shuts up. His own wife left the game because he is an embarrassment.

Anyone know when the UA rosters will be released. Will be interesting, didn’t look like anyone really stood out in the last session. I’m sure it will be political as usual. Thinking sometime today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know when the UA rosters will be released. Will be interesting, didn’t look like anyone really stood out in the last session. I’m sure it will be political as usual. Thinking sometime today?

Agreed a lot of talent but nothing overwhelming in last game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ward Melville player is the best player on LI.

So here’s the problem, wether you want to choose the girl you mention above or the girl who won, or any of the other dozen girls in the senior class who are all legit players, all very good. But there are no superstars among them. Choose any of them and you could make an argument for them and obviously against them. Many years you have a girl or two who are just a level above, makes this discussion a bit easier. It’s easy to get caught up in the history of the names and the lists and the selections over the years, if it were simply based on performance from this year on the HS field, you may want to start a new list.

WM girl had a tough year. Not a contender

There were others in WM division that beat her. Just because she's going to a top lacrosse program doesn't mean she performed well this year. Of course the school and YJ connection had the biggest part of this pick. Funny if she was so great, she certainly didn't get the job done on the circle especially in the Sachem East game and in OT....

Are you really still talking? This Sachem dad never shuts up. His own wife left the game because he is an embarrassment.

Some parents just can't help themselves.... Always trying to elevate their daughter by knocking and tearing down other players who are considered better than their daughter. While Inside Lacrosse Player Rankings, Under Armour All-American selections and College Coaches opinions are not perfect when a player is recognized by all three as being one of the best I would say the player is legit. Now, when a player is not ranked in the Top 30-40 by Inside Lacrosse, doesn't make UA Senior Game and does not receive any offers from Top 10 Programs, well its safe to say the player is not as good as the ones that do....

IMHO The College Coaches at the Top College Programs are the best evaluators of HS players.

Totally off topic of all the above but does Anyone know if US lacrosse selected the combine participants from first round of regional tryouts yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally off topic of all the above but does Anyone know if US lacrosse selected the combine participants from first round of regional tryouts yet?

There was an email over the weekend saying the list is still forthcoming.

When will the UA teams be announced? Thought it would be today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will the UA teams be announced? Thought it would be today

Emails sent last night. UA selection process was no different this year than last. Still used biased evaluators and some of the selections are baffling to say the least

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will the UA teams be announced? Thought it would be today

Emails sent last night. UA selection process was no different this year than last. Still used biased evaluators and some of the selections are baffling to say the least

All you have to do is look at who the coaches are. Embarrassing, YIKES!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will the UA teams be announced? Thought it would be today

Emails sent last night. UA selection process was no different this year than last. Still used biased evaluators and some of the selections are baffling to say the least

When do they post the rosters?

All- American YJ from Northport cut. Guess it really confirms what everyone says about who the coaches are! Can’t wait to see how many Elevate girls who don’t even start on their HS teams are on the roster!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All- American YJ from Northport cut. Guess it really confirms what everyone says about who the coaches are! Can’t wait to see how many Elevate girls who don’t even start on their HS teams are on the roster!

And the NP Coach had no say in the AA selection?

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

Find a lawyer or a request religious exemption.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will the UA teams be announced? Thought it would be today

Emails sent last night. UA selection process was no different this year than last. Still used biased evaluators and some of the selections are baffling to say the least

When do they post the rosters?

I saw the roster.. overall not surprised. some names we all know and should be there, some up and coming 2023's
( tough decision now whether to go to AS or UA..) the rest from Kotowski's club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All- American YJ from Northport cut. Guess it really confirms what everyone says about who the coaches are! Can’t wait to see how many Elevate girls who don’t even start on their HS teams are on the roster!

Making UA questionable yet again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All- American YJ from Northport cut. Guess it really confirms what everyone says about who the coaches are! Can’t wait to see how many Elevate girls who don’t even start on their HS teams are on the roster!

And the NP Coach had no say in the AA selection?

What’s your point? I’m pretty sure the HS coaches nominate all the AA

Not sure if the bias is that bad for UA this year. My daughter got picked and she is not part of the coaching staff club team. I was pleasantly surprised as we expected the usual club bias Expedia;ly after our experience last time out. I guess we can see what the rosters are when they get published

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All- American YJ from Northport cut. Guess it really confirms what everyone says about who the coaches are! Can’t wait to see how many Elevate girls who don’t even start on their HS teams are on the roster!

Making UA questionable yet again

The politics in girls lacrosse is really really sad. Northport girl should be on that team hands down If you follow girls lacrosse. Because Carol Rose is not involved and now people get chance to get back at her and unfortunately they take it out on kids sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure if the bias is that bad for UA this year. My daughter got picked and she is not part of the coaching staff club team. I was pleasantly surprised as we expected the usual club bias Expedia;ly after our experience last time out. I guess we can see what the rosters are when they get published

The rosters are published, take a look to see who you’ll be playing with.
The coaches pick their club team players that’s how it was in the past and that’s how it is this year.
The highlight roster is TopGuns and Elevate heavy, let’s see how they do.
For the girls who never went before it’ll be a nice experience, Will it help the uncommitted 2022’s get recruited? I’m not sure, but it’ll be fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

If "x" is vaccinated and "y" is not, how is "y" hurting "x"? Science is already showing that vaccinated individuals are STILL getting COVID.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

If "x" is vaccinated and "y" is not, how is "y" hurting "x"? Science is already showing that vaccinated individuals are STILL getting COVID.

Because they are risking putting stress on our health care system. They are much more likely to exhibit severe symptoms and increase the risk of another shutdown/ limitation of normal activities

and because Y can breed new variants. No person is an island unto themself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

If "x" is vaccinated and "y" is not, how is "y" hurting "x"? Science is already showing that vaccinated individuals are STILL getting COVID.

Because they are risking putting stress on our health care system. They are much more likely to exhibit severe symptoms and increase the risk of another shutdown/ limitation of normal activities

If vaccinated individual still gets it, it’s a lot less severe. Like…Not getting hospitalized and dying! Plus the ones not getting vaccinated and getting hospitalized costing the system greatly and potentially losing their lives or causing others too! #science

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

If "x" is vaccinated and "y" is not, how is "y" hurting "x"? Science is already showing that vaccinated individuals are STILL getting COVID.

Because they are risking putting stress on our health care system. They are much more likely to exhibit severe symptoms and increase the risk of another shutdown/ limitation of normal activities

that is curious. when there was no vax the healthcare system was not taxed too much. so why will it be now genius?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

If "x" is vaccinated and "y" is not, how is "y" hurting "x"? Science is already showing that vaccinated individuals are STILL getting COVID.

Because they are risking putting stress on our health care system. They are much more likely to exhibit severe symptoms and increase the risk of another shutdown/ limitation of normal activities

that is curious. when there was no vax the healthcare system was not taxed too much. so why will it be now genius?

Are you seriously saying that the healthcare system was not taxed before the bad?!?! I guess no one works in the healthcare field in your family? You are obvi no genius! It was definitely taxed and any healthcare worker will tell you that… duh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

If "x" is vaccinated and "y" is not, how is "y" hurting "x"? Science is already showing that vaccinated individuals are STILL getting COVID.

Because they are risking putting stress on our health care system. They are much more likely to exhibit severe symptoms and increase the risk of another shutdown/ limitation of normal activities

that is curious. when there was no vax the healthcare system was not taxed too much. so why will it be now genius?

Um... we are getting over a pandemic where over 600,000 Americans died. There were not enough beds in many hospitals to handle the sick. If you don't want the vaccine, don't get it. But please stay home and keep your kids online for college while everyone else get on with their lives. The question was asked about how people felt about the mandated vaccine. It doesn't really matter how you feel. The universities are mandating it for a reason, it's not up for debate! Stop being so selfish and be part of the solution, not the problem. There is something called public health. Look it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

If "x" is vaccinated and "y" is not, how is "y" hurting "x"? Science is already showing that vaccinated individuals are STILL getting COVID.

Because they are risking putting stress on our health care system. They are much more likely to exhibit severe symptoms and increase the risk of another shutdown/ limitation of normal activities

that is curious. when there was no vax the healthcare system was not taxed too much. so why will it be now genius?

WOW…. dense!
Yes it was “too much” and it was at a huge cost to taxpayers and to the people who lost their lives. Do you know the cost to have a person in the hospital on a ventilator?

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

Lol, sorry the universities have spoken. Like it or not the vaccine is mandated. Don’t like it, don’t go. SMH at people like you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

Again, not politics … but sounds like it is for you. So dense again. You are what wrong with this society. Hope no one in your family dies. Enjoy your freedoms

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

Lol, sorry the universities have spoken. Like it or not the vaccine is mandated. Don’t like it, don’t go. SMH at people like you!

No university is going to help these kind of people anyways! They already know everything. Except scientific facts. BTW … Trump got vaccinated a long time ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All- American YJ from Northport cut. Guess it really confirms what everyone says about who the coaches are! Can’t wait to see how many Elevate girls who don’t even start on their HS teams are on the roster!

Making UA questionable yet again

The politics in girls lacrosse is really really sad. Northport girl should be on that team hands down If you follow girls lacrosse. Because Carol Rose is not involved and now people get chance to get back at her and unfortunately they take it out on kids sad!

Just like CR and the other coaches have done for years! If you can out play or out shine one of the “chosen” girls you could never get a fair tryout. There are girls overlooked or snubbed every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All- American YJ from Northport cut. Guess it really confirms what everyone says about who the coaches are! Can’t wait to see how many Elevate girls who don’t even start on their HS teams are on the roster!

Making UA questionable yet again

The politics in girls lacrosse is really really sad. Northport girl should be on that team hands down If you follow girls lacrosse. Because Carol Rose is not involved and now people get chance to get back at her and unfortunately they take it out on kids sad!

Just like CR and the other coaches have done for years! If you can out play or out shine one of the “chosen” girls you could never get a fair tryout. There are girls overlooked or snubbed every year.

YUP!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

Again, not politics … but sounds like it is for you. So dense again. You are what wrong with this society. Hope no one in your family dies. Enjoy your freedoms

Not politics and when you can’t carry on a conversation resort to calling different opinions “dense” and talking about family tragedy. I do enjoy and fought for my freedoms. 2nd amendment and the right to refuse a nonFDA vaccine are Freedoms I enjoy and will continue to enjoy. Freedom allows YOU to be a sheep protected by people like me. Have your opinion….. I have mine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

Baa 🐑

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

Baa 🐑

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

Again, not politics … but sounds like it is for you. So dense again. You are what wrong with this society. Hope no one in your family dies. Enjoy your freedoms

Not politics and when you can’t carry on a conversation resort to calling different opinions “dense” and talking about family tragedy. I do enjoy and fought for my freedoms. 2nd amendment and the right to refuse a nonFDA vaccine are Freedoms I enjoy and will continue to enjoy. Freedom allows YOU to be a sheep protected by people like me. Have your opinion….. I have mine.

You can have your opinion…just can’t send your kids to college unless you wake up and stop trying to fight a battle that you won’t win. Bad look for your kid

Why are the moderators tolerating this vaccine nonsense.. please keep discussion to lax, start a vacune thread if you feel this is in anyway constructive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

Baa 🐑

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

BTW… you are the sheep…. Baaaa! And , your farmer has been vaccinated a long time ago! That’s ok, he can get more sheep to follow. A few “lost” along the road is expected. Just stay away from the universities where kids should be allowed to get an education without being infected by your ignorance!!! Baaaa , baaaa … hope there is plenty of oxygen available

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

Baa 🐑

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Heard Nevada looking for some people to move there, due to some very recent vacancies. Interested???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's everyone feeling about mandatory COVID vaccines although not FDA approved in order to dorm and attend college next month?

I am very happy about it. It is the only way for these kids to have a normal college year. All of my kids (HS and college) are vaccinated and it was the right thing to do. Why would you not want your kid to to get it?

Same- very happy! Exactly, why wouldn’t you not want your kid to get it? If you do not want to get vaccinated to protect yourselves from getting sick- science, not politics. Than stay home and don’t go outside to become a human Petri dish for more mutants of the virus to develop. Thus , making the situation even worse for everyone. Or, go outside and play Russian roulette with your life? If your kids not vaccinated, please have them stay home and do remote learning. Could save their life and yours

Baa 🐑

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are everything that is wrong with the current administration. You are a sheep being led by politicians who are telling you something is safe. Masks proven to be useless. No govt should tell it’s citizens they must comply and put something in their body. Enjoy receiving a non-FDA approved vaccine. But it’s a free country and should stay free.

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

I guess the “Delta Variant” is fake as well. Good luck with that “put in” your body. If your not vaccinated, just a matter of when, Not if ! Good luck with that

Come on? Is this really necessary on the high school thread.
I’m checking out.. unsubscribed from BOTC email

I think this started with people’s thoughts about HS girls being required to get vaccinated to go to college. So, it is a fair topic

5 girls from a MD team had to skip the G8 because they came down with Covid.

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

If 5 girls from a MD couldn’t play due to covid.doesn’t the rest of the team have to quarantine due to contact tracing.Vacine or not people that is how covid spreads.And the tourney allowed this or just wasn’t notified by the organization.
Lax isn’t as important as life although some lax parents would think different the way they act and carry on at the field and with their kids not performing up to their expectations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Why so political? This is a scientific discussion. Science is providing information based on studies. Sounds like you are choosing not to listen. Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Sounds like your choice is based on politics. Good luck with that. “Government and news media” Thought we moved past that and evolved

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Why so political? This is a scientific discussion. Science is providing information based on studies. Sounds like you are choosing not to listen. Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion

... “Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion”

How do you know that to be a “Fact”? Please just tell us where you get your “Facts”. Please tell us the source of your factual information, please let us know how you know the information is truly accurate and factual. Where are you receiving the info and who is providing it? How do you know that it is based on “math and science”?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 girls from a MD team had to skip the G8 because they came down with Covid.

& you know this how? Or is this just assuming something? I heard there was a MD team where players just didn't feel like playing, had nothing to do with COVID

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Sounds like your choice is based on politics. Good luck with that. “Government and news media” Thought we moved past that and evolved

Evolved? Evolved into what?

Do you not think it wise to make decisions based on accurate information i.e. The Truth?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Why so political? This is a scientific discussion. Science is providing information based on studies. Sounds like you are choosing not to listen. Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion

... “Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion”

How do you know that to be a “Fact”? Please just tell us where you get your “Facts”. Please tell us the source of your factual information, please let us know how you know the information is truly accurate and factual. Where are you receiving the info and who is providing it? How do you know that it is based on “math and science”?

Check out the Covid cases now on US maps and what states are being affected the most right now. I guess hospitals are lying and false reporting ? It’s a shame politics are actually killing people. I think I just heard the Alabama governor on TV practically “begging” her citizens to get vaccinated. She said… “she just doesn’t get it, why they wouldn’t”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 girls from a MD team had to skip the G8 because they came down with Covid.

& you know this how? Or is this just assuming something? I heard there was a MD team where players just didn't feel like playing, had nothing to do with COVID

LOL, just didn’t feel like playing in a very highly recruited tournament? What age group are the girls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Sounds like your choice is based on politics. Good luck with that. “Government and news media” Thought we moved past that and evolved

Evolved? Evolved into what?

Do you not think it wise to make decisions based on accurate information i.e. The Truth?

Stop getting your “ informations and truths” from one source. Evolve a little!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Why so political? This is a scientific discussion. Science is providing information based on studies. Sounds like you are choosing not to listen. Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion

... “Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion”

How do you know that to be a “Fact”? Please just tell us where you get your “Facts”. Please tell us the source of your factual information, please let us know how you know the information is truly accurate and factual. Where are you receiving the info and who is providing it? How do you know that it is based on “math and science”?

Check out the Covid cases now on US maps and what states are being affected the most right now. I guess hospitals are lying and false reporting ? It’s a shame politics are actually killing people. I think I just heard the Alabama governor on TV practically “begging” her citizens to get vaccinated. She said… “she just doesn’t get it, why they wouldn’t”

Pretty sure I remember both our President and Vice President saying publicly that they would not get the vaccine because DT was responsible for making it available.... and I’m absolutely certain that hospitals would never falsely report anything....

There is such thing called the internet. Go, do your own research on what is actually going on out there from multiple sources, based on numbers and science. Turn your tv off and go do some research. Or, just sit back and wait for that whole “herd immunity” to happen. And, Hope you are not one of the weak ones

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Sounds like your choice is based on politics. Good luck with that. “Government and news media” Thought we moved past that and evolved

Evolved? Evolved into what?

Do you not think it wise to make decisions based on accurate information i.e. The Truth?

Stop getting your “ informations and truths” from one source. Evolve a little!

How do you know where anyone gets their information? Please tell us all where your fountain of truth is, please tell us your multiple sources of your accurate information, please tell us all so that we can all become as evolved as you...

🐑

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Why so political? This is a scientific discussion. Science is providing information based on studies. Sounds like you are choosing not to listen. Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion

... “Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion”

How do you know that to be a “Fact”? Please just tell us where you get your “Facts”. Please tell us the source of your factual information, please let us know how you know the information is truly accurate and factual. Where are you receiving the info and who is providing it? How do you know that it is based on “math and science”?

Check out the Covid cases now on US maps and what states are being affected the most right now. I guess hospitals are lying and false reporting ? It’s a shame politics are actually killing people. I think I just heard the Alabama governor on TV practically “begging” her citizens to get vaccinated. She said… “she just doesn’t get it, why they wouldn’t”

Pretty sure I remember both our President and Vice President saying publicly that they would not get the vaccine because DT was responsible for making it available.... and I’m absolutely certain that hospitals would never falsely report anything....

Really , this is the best you got!? Lol. Back to politics …. Ok, DT did get vaccinated. A long time ago… what are you waiting for? Do you not trust his judgement?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 girls from a MD team had to skip the G8 because they came down with Covid.

What age group?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Why so political? This is a scientific discussion. Science is providing information based on studies. Sounds like you are choosing not to listen. Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion

... “Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion”

How do you know that to be a “Fact”? Please just tell us where you get your “Facts”. Please tell us the source of your factual information, please let us know how you know the information is truly accurate and factual. Where are you receiving the info and who is providing it? How do you know that it is based on “math and science”?

Check out the Covid cases now on US maps and what states are being affected the most right now. I guess hospitals are lying and false reporting ? It’s a shame politics are actually killing people. I think I just heard the Alabama governor on TV practically “begging” her citizens to get vaccinated. She said… “she just doesn’t get it, why they wouldn’t”

Pretty sure I remember both our President and Vice President saying publicly that they would not get the vaccine because DT was responsible for making it available.... and I’m absolutely certain that hospitals would never falsely report anything....

Yeah, but I think hospitals in the “red states” would report the opposite …. Of what they are reporting … so, your point is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, it is necessary to talk about on the HS thread. It is a very real thing going on right now and it very much could affect HS aged girls and their Lacrosse future. If you were a 22 or 23 who had to skip G8 due to covid, you missed a huge opportunity to get seen by coach’s. It’s real

IDK if it is necessary, but I see no problem with it. It’s your body and you should be able to choose to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine.

Personally, I like to make decisions based on accurate information.

To those of you who believe that everyone should get the vaccine... Do you truly believe that the information that has been provided (by the government or news media) has been accurate and truthful?

Why so political? This is a scientific discussion. Science is providing information based on studies. Sounds like you are choosing not to listen. Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion

... “Fact… 95% of Covid hospilizations right now are unvaccinated individuals. 95% of Covid deaths now are unvaccinated individuals. This is Math and Science discussion”

How do you know that to be a “Fact”? Please just tell us where you get your “Facts”. Please tell us the source of your factual information, please let us know how you know the information is truly accurate and factual. Where are you receiving the info and who is providing it? How do you know that it is based on “math and science”?

Check out the Covid cases now on US maps and what states are being affected the most right now. I guess hospitals are lying and false reporting ? It’s a shame politics are actually killing people. I think I just heard the Alabama governor on TV practically “begging” her citizens to get vaccinated. She said… “she just doesn’t get it, why they wouldn’t”

Pretty sure I remember both our President and Vice President saying publicly that they would not get the vaccine because DT was responsible for making it available.... and I’m absolutely certain that hospitals would never falsely report anything....

When the media, big tech, universities and Hollywood are all in the tank for one party, it makes people skeptical of everything they say, even when it's the truth.

Back to why this convo started in the first place, universities requiring vaccinations. Is this true for most? What ones are not requiring

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

Why, all of it affects our children and their current lacrosse situation and future lacrosse/school situation. Who needs to take a deep breath? Why try to stop debate? You are not being forced to participate, you can choose not to engage but stop tell the rest of us what we can and can't discuss.

Wow, defensive much...in my opinion, you really do need to take a deep breath. Not sure where I was telling people what they can and can not discuss. But, if that's how you read it, so be it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is such thing called the internet. Go, do your own research on what is actually going on out there from multiple sources, based on numbers and science. Turn your tv off and go do some research. Or, just sit back and wait for that whole “herd immunity” to happen. And, Hope you are not one of the weak ones

Oh.... The internet, no disinformation or censorship taking place on the internet. "Numbers and science"? What numbers? What science?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, defensive much...in my opinion, you really do need to take a deep breath. Not sure where I was telling people what they can and can not discuss. But, if that's how you read it, so be it.

I didn't read the response as defensive at all, they stated that the situation affects our children. Why are you telling the person to take a deep breath? The post was rational and simply asked questions, why do they need to take a deep breath?

BTW, your statement "no need to get into this debate on a lax forum." sure sounds like you are telling the rest of us what we can discuss or at the very least what you think is appropriate. Why would you do that? Why tell others that they "really need to take a deep breath"? Why tell us what we can debate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, defensive much...in my opinion, you really do need to take a deep breath. Not sure where I was telling people what they can and can not discuss. But, if that's how you read it, so be it.

I didn't read the response as defensive at all, they stated that the situation affects our children. Why are you telling the person to take a deep breath? The post was rational and simply asked questions, why do they need to take a deep breath?

BTW, your statement "no need to get into this debate on a lax forum." sure sounds like you are telling the rest of us what we can discuss or at the very least what you think is appropriate. Why would you do that? Why tell others that they "really need to take a deep breath"? Why tell us what we can debate?

Again - WOW

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is such thing called the internet. Go, do your own research on what is actually going on out there from multiple sources, based on numbers and science. Turn your tv off and go do some research. Or, just sit back and wait for that whole “herd immunity” to happen. And, Hope you are not one of the weak ones

Oh.... The internet, no disinformation or censorship taking place on the internet. "Numbers and science"? What numbers? What science?

Go figure it out and use common sense! Everything is out there. Not all “dis information”. Turn your tv of the one channel, get off the one blog. Do your own research. There are stats that can be looked at in everything! A home run is a home run. An unvaccinated death is just that as well! Sadly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is such thing called the internet. Go, do your own research on what is actually going on out there from multiple sources, based on numbers and science. Turn your tv off and go do some research. Or, just sit back and wait for that whole “herd immunity” to happen. And, Hope you are not one of the weak ones

Oh.... The internet, no disinformation or censorship taking place on the internet. "Numbers and science"? What numbers? What science?

Go figure it out and use common sense! Everything is out there. Not all “dis information”. Turn your tv of the one channel, get off the one blog. Do your own research. There are stats that can be looked at in everything! A home run is a home run. An unvaccinated death is just that as well! Sadly

You have no idea who you are responding to, you have no idea what tv channel they watch and you have no idea what if any blog the follow... but that doesn't stop you from telling them what to do. Just curious, what "stats" are you looking at?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

So, only the vaccinated will be able to continue to "take deep breaths".... Please tell us all how you know the vaccines are both safe and effective. Please tell us how you know there will be no long term side affects. Please tell us where this incredible source of unquestionable truthful information is originates from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

So, only the vaccinated will be able to continue to "take deep breaths".... Please tell us all how you know the vaccines are both safe and effective. Please tell us how you know there will be no long term side affects. Please tell us where this incredible source of unquestionable truthful information is originates from.

Get your vaccine and attend college or don’t and stay online. Stop with all of your other nonsense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

So, only the vaccinated will be able to continue to "take deep breaths".... Please tell us all how you know the vaccines are both safe and effective. Please tell us how you know there will be no long term side affects. Please tell us where this incredible source of unquestionable truthful information is originates from.

Nope, did not say only the vaccinated. But, they will prob. Survive this second wave way more than non vaccinated! It’s already happening all over the red states with less vaccinated people. I think even your channel has to report what’s going on in hospitals in those states? Open your eyes, be your own source of information. You do t need someone telling you… again, common sense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

😷 and you received your MD PHD from where. Oh brother. Clueless.

So let me give you a perspective from my daughter's point of view as player. When I asked her how she would feel if one (or several for that matter) of her unvaccinated teammates contracted COVID which resulted in shutting down the team temporarily. Her brief response was "I'd be pissed." I bet there would be quite a few unhappy teammates if the inaction of some led to their season being impacted. You may want to keep that in mind if your daughter is on the fence about getting the vaccine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

😷 and you received your MD PHD from where. Oh brother. Clueless.

We shall see who’s clueless. Oh yeah, glad you used that mask emoji. If you are not vaccinated, please continue to wear the mask for crying out loud! Be a responsible human

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

So, only the vaccinated will be able to continue to "take deep breaths".... Please tell us all how you know the vaccines are both safe and effective. Please tell us how you know there will be no long term side affects. Please tell us where this incredible source of unquestionable truthful information is originates from.

Get your vaccine and attend college or don’t and stay online. Stop with all of your other nonsense!

What is nonsense?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let me give you a perspective from my daughter's point of view as player. When I asked her how she would feel if one (or several for that matter) of her unvaccinated teammates contracted COVID which resulted in shutting down the team temporarily. Her brief response was "I'd be pissed." I bet there would be quite a few unhappy teammates if the inaction of some led to their season being impacted. You may want to keep that in mind if your daughter is on the fence about getting the vaccine.

I guess if one of the vaccinated teammates contracted COVID which resulted in shutting down the team temporarily that would be okay?

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 girls from a MD team had to skip the G8 because they came down with Covid.

& you know this how? Or is this just assuming something? I heard there was a MD team where players just didn't feel like playing, had nothing to do with COVID

LOL, just didn’t feel like playing in a very highly recruited tournament? What age group are the girls

Oh, I know. Its was a b-team and if it makes you feel any better, they were anti-vaxers so they weren't even vaccinated.

Good point! And… Thank-you for getting this back to Lacrosse related and to original post as to thoughts on Colleges/Universities requiring student vaccinations

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

Appropriate step according to who? If the teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community want to get vaccinated so be it. If the vaccine is safe and effective then they should have nothing to worry about. Do you know the risks or long term implications for young adult females who get the vaccine? The answer to that question is no, you do not. What are the possible consequences of your decision?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Lots of All Americans and girls committed to top schools cut from Under Armor! Hearing other girls who were chosen are opting out. What is going on here??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

It would appear that you are the one who should stay home. If you are afraid of Covid stay locked down, if you want to get the vaccine, get the vaccine but please stop telling the rest of us what to do.

I am not the person that you responding to but in all fairness, it is you who appears to be confused and dense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

All I did was ask to clarify-you have no clue if I’ve been vaccinated or not so saying I’m confused or dense is just plain ignorant. Have a great night

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of All Americans and girls committed to top schools cut from Under Armor! Hearing other girls who were chosen are opting out. What is going on here??

Because UA selection was political once again and maybe they don’t want to be part of it? Or, they tried out for both AS and UA and are opting for AS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let me give you a perspective from my daughter's point of view as player. When I asked her how she would feel if one (or several for that matter) of her unvaccinated teammates contracted COVID which resulted in shutting down the team temporarily. Her brief response was "I'd be pissed." I bet there would be quite a few unhappy teammates if the inaction of some led to their season being impacted. You may want to keep that in mind if your daughter is on the fence about getting the vaccine.

I guess if one of the vaccinated teammates contracted COVID which resulted in shutting down the team temporarily that would be okay?

I'm not sure if you are talking about high school or college teams, but college players have a lot of incentive to be vaccinated. Every school and conference will have different protocols, and things could always change as covid situation changes, but my sense right now is that teams will not be shutting down if the majority of players are vaccinated unless many have actual covid symptoms. Only unvaccinated players will be subjected to the constant testing and contact tracing. Vaccinated players are good to go unless they have symptoms and test positive. The CDC now says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine if exposed, so if your unvaccinated Sally gets Covid it's likely not going to impact the vaccinated players on the team. Sally will be out for a while, but those who are vaccinated will carry on without her...unless your high school has stricter protocols than CDC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

All I did was ask to clarify-you have no clue if I’ve been vaccinated or not so saying I’m confused or dense is just plain ignorant. Have a great night

How dare you ask for clarification?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let me give you a perspective from my daughter's point of view as player. When I asked her how she would feel if one (or several for that matter) of her unvaccinated teammates contracted COVID which resulted in shutting down the team temporarily. Her brief response was "I'd be pissed." I bet there would be quite a few unhappy teammates if the inaction of some led to their season being impacted. You may want to keep that in mind if your daughter is on the fence about getting the vaccine.

I guess if one of the vaccinated teammates contracted COVID which resulted in shutting down the team temporarily that would be okay?

I'm not sure if you are talking about high school or college teams, but college players have a lot of incentive to be vaccinated. Every school and conference will have different protocols, and things could always change as covid situation changes, but my sense right now is that teams will not be shutting down if the majority of players are vaccinated unless many have actual covid symptoms. Only unvaccinated players will be subjected to the constant testing and contact tracing. Vaccinated players are good to go unless they have symptoms and test positive. The CDC now says vaccinated people don't have to quarantine if exposed, so if your unvaccinated Sally gets Covid it's likely not going to impact the vaccinated players on the team. Sally will be out for a while, but those who are vaccinated will carry on without her...unless your high school has stricter protocols than CDC.

Makes sense ! If unvaccinated Sally gets Covid, the unvaccinated players on team will be most impacted and at more risk to each other. They will prob. have to get Tested and quarantined due to contact tracing, before being allowed to return to school/play? So, seems like they will be more a threat to each other than to the vaccinated students

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone take a deep breath and move on. Everyone has a right to their opinion, no need to get into this debate on a lax forum

The vaccinated will be able to continue to “take deep breaths” throughout this ongoing pandemic … unvaccinated people may not - literally. If they continue to ignore the science! We are about to get hit by a second stronger wave of a tsunami and some choose not to put on life jackets. Good luck

😷 and you received your MD PHD from where. Oh brother. Clueless.

We shall see who’s clueless. Oh yeah, glad you used that mask emoji. If you are not vaccinated, please continue to wear the mask for crying out loud! Be a responsible human

Please. Put on your mask, face shield and go lock yourself down in a bubble somewhere. Your the type that drives in a car with mask on. Please forward the site/link that shows how many people being outside have contracted virus. Hint….. basically none. You are a sheep being led by politicians and your dying CNN. You and the govt have no right to tell me what to do regarding a nonFDA vaccine. Enjoy your freedoms although I’m sure you didn’t fight for them.

Since the magic vaccines are so effective -why would a few positive tests shut down the team or games-vaccinated will never die just have reduced symptoms (if you believe this). In theory only the dirty unvaccinated should have to quarantine. Imagine if they force your daughter to get the HPV shot next (for the good of the country) or no college or sports. The 18-19 y/o have the least infection and death rates (next to none) and more kids have had reactions to the MRNA gene therapies. You may all want to look at both sides-not just FB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since the magic vaccines are so effective -why would a few positive tests shut down the team or games-vaccinated will never die just have reduced symptoms (if you believe this). In theory only the dirty unvaccinated should have to quarantine. Imagine if they force your daughter to get the HPV shot next (for the good of the country) or no college or sports. The 18-19 y/o have the least infection and death rates (next to none) and more kids have had reactions to the MRNA gene therapies. You may all want to look at both sides-not just FB

None of your jibberish matters. Let your kid get a safe and effective vaccine, or have them stay home and learn online. You’re fighting a losing battle!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since the magic vaccines are so effective -why would a few positive tests shut down the team or games-vaccinated will never die just have reduced symptoms (if you believe this). In theory only the dirty unvaccinated should have to quarantine. Imagine if they force your daughter to get the HPV shot next (for the good of the country) or no college or sports. The 18-19 y/o have the least infection and death rates (next to none) and more kids have had reactions to the MRNA gene therapies. You may all want to look at both sides-not just FB

None of your jibberish matters. Let your kid get a safe and effective vaccine, or have them stay home and learn online. You’re fighting a losing battle!

***STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS*****
***WE ALL JUST WANNA GET BACK TO NASTY PARENTS***

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of All Americans and girls committed to top schools cut from Under Armor! Hearing other girls who were chosen are opting out. What is going on here??

We didn't even tryout because we are the younger year and knew that the other defenders in the 22 would tryout (already committed of course) Well, they never even showed up to tryout! So you had good girls who didn't even bother because they knew ABC would be there. ABC never showed up, but I doubt it would even happen for us.

The vaccines don’t have full FDA approval. The kids are not as effected by the virus so why have them get the vaccine. Foolish sheep.

If you were crazy enough to have your Daughter vaccinated Just do your thing and don’t worry about who else has it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Guess you believe in “herd immunity” then?
Good luck in the herd when Delta shows up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

So again…… do you or family, daughters have had STD or HIV. I think if your daughter is going to college all eligible men or women should know. Cmon little sheep we all want to know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Please tell us why? Please tell us where you get your information. Please tell us why you believe the information to be accurate and or truthful. Please tell us one thing that has been put out by our government, the WHO, big tech, big pharma or the media that has been accurate, factual or true since this whole scam started. Please tell us why or how any of the lockdown mandates or restrictions have been rational, logical or made any sense at all. Please tell us how science was used to make any of the draconian decisions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

So…where will your daughter be going to school online? Are there any virtual lacrosse teams she might be able to join?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of All Americans and girls committed to top schools cut from Under Armor! Hearing other girls who were chosen are opting out. What is going on here??

Because UA selection was political once again and maybe they don’t want to be part of it? Or, they tried out for both AS and UA and are opting for AS?

Do you believe AS was not political? AS was started so it could be controlled (both the selections and the $$$).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Hey bonehead! Two family members died in two different wars. So, stick it!! Wear your mask and stop being a mutant …. DAF

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

So again…… do you or family, daughters have had STD or HIV. I think if your daughter is going to college all eligible men or women should know. Cmon little sheep we all want to know.

Even if they had a STD or HIV, couldn’t kill somebody with it by simply breathing! Your a stunad and ignorant fool. Natural selection knocking on your door

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

So again…… do you or family, daughters have had STD or HIV. I think if your daughter is going to college all eligible men or women should know. Cmon little sheep we all want to know.

You are the sheep to your politics and don’t even realize it. Your farmers have been vaccinated and could care less if they lose a few sheep... keep Drinking the koolaid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

So let me understand this-I’d someone is unvaccinated & gets COVID, everyone would be angry but if a vaccinated person gets COVID, that’s ok???

Yes! Because they minimized their risk as much as they could. If they do get it, the symptoms will most likely be minimal and they won’t put stress on the health care system. You seem really confused and dense. Get the vaccine or stay home please!

Since your all about knowing peoples private/protected personal health information please let all know if you or your family have an STD or HIV.

My kids all have the Gardisil vaccine as well, no side effects whatsoever and they are now protected from cancer, Whats your point? What a scared dweeb you are. Hope you kid doesn’t get the vaccine, don’t need someone with your backwards attitude taking up spots at my kids school!

So again…… do you or family, daughters have had STD or HIV. I think if your daughter is going to college all eligible men or women should know. Cmon little sheep we all want to know.

This topic seems to have officially jumped the shark on here. It’s simple , you have the right not to have your child vaccinated or wear a mask. Universities have a right to request it. So, the simple answer is if you don’t like it, Do remote schooling or find another place that agrees with you. Wasn’t this topic started to discuss vaccine requirements in colleges? Geesh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Yes fool, police officers do check to see if your seat belt is on to protect you from your own stupidity. If not, you get a ticket! Have a problem with that? You should be able to not wear one if you don’t want too … right!? “Click it or get a ticket”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep. Apples and oranges. A vaccinated kid took the appropriate steps to try to protect her teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and community while the unvaccinated kid threw caution to the wind while knowing the risks and possible consequences of her decision. That's a big difference.

Is the vaccine safe and effective? If the teammates, coaches, trainers, fellow students and the community have been vaccinated aren't they protected from Covid?

Do you know the risks and possible consequences of getting vaccinated ? Where are you getting your information? How are you verifying that the information is true?

What is the mortality rate for High School and College age healthy kids with no underlying health conditions?

Please tell us just one "truth" that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Hey bonehead! Two family members died in two different wars. So, stick it!! Wear your mask and stop being a mutant …. DAF

Sure they did. If it was you would have more respect for others who did. Your a liar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Yes fool, police officers do check to see if your seat belt is on to protect you from your own stupidity. If not, you get a ticket! Have a problem with that? You should be able to not wear one if you don’t want too … right!? “Click it or get a ticket”

Oh really. When you can’t put together a cogent argument resort to calling another person a “fool”. So your ok with traffic checkpoints everywhere to check seat belts?? Be a sheep. Oh and let all know if you or daughter have STD’s or HIV. She could be infecting an unsuspecting male or female.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Hey bonehead! Two family members died in two different wars. So, stick it!! Wear your mask and stop being a mutant …. DAF

Sure they did. If it was you would have more respect for others who did. Your a liar.

Yeah, they really did lost ! So GFY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Hey bonehead! Two family members died in two different wars. So, stick it!! Wear your mask and stop being a mutant …. DAF

Sure they did. If it was you would have more respect for others who did. Your a liar.

Did you do combat? I doubt it. You would respect life more if you saw the needless deaths. Your a turd

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think that the vaccine really prevents the virus more than your immune system and you don't know the stats on Gardisil -you are really ignorant.Try to read some science not put out by Pfizer.

Get the vaccine or stay home. Nothing else to discuss.

Also, if you don’t want to get vaccine (it’s your right) then please wear a mask and be a responsible human

Sorry no. Protect yourself and you wear your useless mask and face shield. Not my responsibility to take care of you. Does anyone check yo see if your seatbelt is on. Your obviously a sheep. I fought for my freedoms. You obviously did not.
Fly the USA 🇺🇸

Hey bonehead! Two family members died in two different wars. So, stick it!! Wear your mask and stop being a mutant …. DAF

Sure they did. If it was you would have more respect for others who did. Your a liar.

You sound about as ignorant as they come! I’m sure you are not vaccinated …. #Natural selection #Herdimmunity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

They probably haven’t had a chance to catch up on “the blog” today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

QAnon hit a nerve ? Thought so

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Let's get back to lacrosse! Good luck to all the girls participating in AS and UA. should be two great events! Hopefully, LI can win at least one of them. A Shame the talent had to be diluted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will the UA teams be announced? Thought it would be today

Emails sent last night. UA selection process was no different this year than last. Still used biased evaluators and some of the selections are baffling to say the least

When do they post the rosters?

I saw the roster.. overall not surprised. some names we all know and should be there, some up and coming 2023's
( tough decision now whether to go to AS or UA..) the rest from Kotowski's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When will the UA teams be announced? Thought it would be today

Emails sent last night. UA selection process was no different this year than last. Still used biased evaluators and some of the selections are baffling to say the least

When do they post the rosters?

I saw the roster.. overall not surprised. some names we all know and should be there, some up and coming 2023's
( tough decision now whether to go to AS or UA..) the rest from Kotowski's club.

His bias is blatant, definitely undeserving kids he picked over better talent. The logo on their t shirts mattered more than their skill

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

QAnon hit a nerve ? Thought so

No, no nerve hit at all, I do not know very much about QAnon. What I do know is that you can not honestly answer simple questions. No nerve hit, no emotional response whatsoever from me, just clear rational, logical thought and questions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's get back to lacrosse! Good luck to all the girls participating in AS and UA. should be two great events! Hopefully, LI can win at least one of them. A Shame the talent had to be diluted.

apparently neither will be great because of greed and politics. Not everyone can get a trophy and now that talent is dispersed both events will be watered down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Stop complaining. I think this was the best evaluation in years! Kudos to the coaches for no picking girls based on where they’re committed, but on how the performed for the most part. Maybe a few more Elevate and Jesters girls were selected because they were even with girls from other teams

This is not a Red versus Blue issue-it is about freedoms. Letting the Govt dictate your health choices is unconstitutional [. They could tell the obese people what they can and can't eat next. It is those fatties that are getting infected you know.quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

They probably haven’t had a chance to catch up on “the blog” today.

I see we have another who has no answers to the questions asked in previous posts.

Baaaa baaaa 🐑

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not a Red versus Blue issue-it is about freedoms. Letting the Govt dictate your health choices is unconstitutional [. They could tell the obese people what they can and can't eat next. It is those fatties that are getting infected you know.quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

[/quote]

You are bringing politics into this. Questions were asked, they were not political, they were simple questions. Just answer the questions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Stop complaining. I think this was the best evaluation in years! Kudos to the coaches for no picking girls based on where they’re committed, but on how the performed for the most part. Maybe a few more Elevate and Jesters girls were selected because they were even with girls from other teams

Thanks for your input Coach K

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Agreeing with you! My kid made the Highlight roster. A teammate of hers had a good tryout clearly outplayed another kid selected at the same position. Club loyalty and favoring a coach's kid played into it. That being said we've been here before and knew the way this goes year after year. Just because Corrigan threw their new lapdog on the field to coach didn't change the politics/nepotism.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Agreeing with you! My kid made the Highlight roster. A teammate of hers had a good tryout clearly outplayed another kid selected at the same position. Club loyalty and favoring a coach's kid played into it. That being said we've been here before and knew the way this goes year after year. Just because Corrigan threw their new lapdog on the field to coach didn't change the politics/nepotism.

We have all been listening to these complaints for years, most are from delusional, disgruntled know nothing parents who believe their daughter is better than she actually is. No tryout will ever be perfect but the complaints year after year are for the most part sour grapes. It is not always politics or the friends and family network, sometimes the coach / evaluators just like other players more. It is all opinion, it's not exact, it's not wrestling, track, tennis or swimming.

Do you want the most accurate assessment of your daughters ability? Look at the college programs that make offers and then look at what the offer is. If your daughter receives or received offers from perennial Top 10-15 college programs and she is not / was not selected to UA you and your daughter could have a legitimate gripe. However, if your daughter is not receiving (or did not receive offers) offers from Top 10 caliber programs then maybe she is not as strong of a player as you think she is.

I am not trying to knock any players, it's just reality. Some parents just can't believe that other people (coaches) have a different view/opinion of their daughters ability. Do/did the offers come from Boston College, Northwestern, Carolina and Maryland? Or do/did they come from Boston University, New Hampshire, Cornell and Marist? Not knocking any program but the reality is that the Top Programs are the Top Programs because they identify and make offers to (and get) the Top Players. You do not often hear that a recruit is trying to decide between Syracuse and Siena, most of the time players are having to choose between programs that are on a similar level. If Northwestern is making an offer there is a very good chance other Top 10 Programs will be offering as well. If no Top 10 Programs are offering than the player most likely is not at that level. That is just how it works most of the time, it's reality, it's not a knock.

These complaints start in elementary school when the girl doesn't make the "A" Team and continue right up through recruiting and even into college. Most (not all) are sour grapes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Stop complaining. I think this was the best evaluation in years! Kudos to the coaches for no picking girls based on where they’re committed, but on how the performed for the most part. Maybe a few more Elevate and Jesters girls were selected because they were even with girls from other teams

Thanks for your input Coach K

Heard a few girls dropped out, wondering who there replacements will be. At this point I wonder if girls will decline knowing they are sloppy seconds?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Agreeing with you! My kid made the Highlight roster. A teammate of hers had a good tryout clearly outplayed another kid selected at the same position. Club loyalty and favoring a coach's kid played into it. That being said we've been here before and knew the way this goes year after year. Just because Corrigan threw their new lapdog on the field to coach didn't change the politics/nepotism.

We have all been listening to these complaints for years, most are from delusional, disgruntled know nothing parents who believe their daughter is better than she actually is. No tryout will ever be perfect but the complaints year after year are for the most part sour grapes. It is not always politics or the friends and family network, sometimes the coach / evaluators just like other players more. It is all opinion, it's not exact, it's not wrestling, track, tennis or swimming.

Do you want the most accurate assessment of your daughters ability? Look at the college programs that make offers and then look at what the offer is. If your daughter receives or received offers from perennial Top 10-15 college programs and she is not / was not selected to UA you and your daughter could have a legitimate gripe. However, if your daughter is not receiving (or did not receive offers) offers from Top 10 caliber programs then maybe she is not as strong of a player as you think she is.

I am not trying to knock any players, it's just reality. Some parents just can't believe that other people (coaches) have a different view/opinion of their daughters ability. Do/did the offers come from Boston College, Northwestern, Carolina and Maryland? Or do/did they come from Boston University, New Hampshire, Cornell and Marist? Not knocking any program but the reality is that the Top Programs are the Top Programs because they identify and make offers to (and get) the Top Players. You do not often hear that a recruit is trying to decide between Syracuse and Siena, most of the time players are having to choose between programs that are on a similar level. If Northwestern is making an offer there is a very good chance other Top 10 Programs will be offering as well. If no Top 10 Programs are offering than the player most likely is not at that level. That is just how it works most of the time, it's reality, it's not a knock.

These complaints start in elementary school when the girl doesn't make the "A" Team and continue right up through recruiting and even into college. Most (not all) are sour grapes.

All of my kids started on B/C teams. Yes it was disappointing, but they worked hard and made it and excelled on A teams eventually. 2 are now in college at top programs, and last one is committed to a great school now. Lots of ups and downs along the way. Trust the process try to stay positive and don’t give up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Agreeing with you! My kid made the Highlight roster. A teammate of hers had a good tryout clearly outplayed another kid selected at the same position. Club loyalty and favoring a coach's kid played into it. That being said we've been here before and knew the way this goes year after year. Just because Corrigan threw their new lapdog on the field to coach didn't change the politics/nepotism.

We have all been listening to these complaints for years, most are from delusional, disgruntled know nothing parents who believe their daughter is better than she actually is. No tryout will ever be perfect but the complaints year after year are for the most part sour grapes. It is not always politics or the friends and family network, sometimes the coach / evaluators just like other players more. It is all opinion, it's not exact, it's not wrestling, track, tennis or swimming.

Do you want the most accurate assessment of your daughters ability? Look at the college programs that make offers and then look at what the offer is. If your daughter receives or received offers from perennial Top 10-15 college programs and she is not / was not selected to UA you and your daughter could have a legitimate gripe. However, if your daughter is not receiving (or did not receive offers) offers from Top 10 caliber programs then maybe she is not as strong of a player as you think she is.

I am not trying to knock any players, it's just reality. Some parents just can't believe that other people (coaches) have a different view/opinion of their daughters ability. Do/did the offers come from Boston College, Northwestern, Carolina and Maryland? Or do/did they come from Boston University, New Hampshire, Cornell and Marist? Not knocking any program but the reality is that the Top Programs are the Top Programs because they identify and make offers to (and get) the Top Players. You do not often hear that a recruit is trying to decide between Syracuse and Siena, most of the time players are having to choose between programs that are on a similar level. If Northwestern is making an offer there is a very good chance other Top 10 Programs will be offering as well. If no Top 10 Programs are offering than the player most likely is not at that level. That is just how it works most of the time, it's reality, it's not a knock.

These complaints start in elementary school when the girl doesn't make the "A" Team and continue right up through recruiting and even into college. Most (not all) are sour grapes.

All of my kids started on B/C teams. Yes it was disappointing, but they worked hard and made it and excelled on A teams eventually. 2 are now in college at top programs, and last one is committed to a great school now. Lots of ups and downs along the way. Trust the process try to stay positive and don’t give up!

Very well said! Life isn’t fair, never give up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA just as political as always just with different faves now you have it loaded with Elevate kids that clearly were not the best at their positions.

Stop complaining. I think this was the best evaluation in years! Kudos to the coaches for no picking girls based on where they’re committed, but on how the performed for the most part. Maybe a few more Elevate and Jesters girls were selected because they were even with girls from other teams

Thanks for your input Coach K

Heard a few girls dropped out, wondering who there replacements will be. At this point I wonder if girls will decline knowing they are sloppy seconds?

The roster hasn't changed. i doubt anyone would now accept the tournament is Thursday. Nobody wants to be plan B.

Plan B is UA. Why would anyone want to choose UA over AS? Money? Obviously, no one cares about that. Top players from around the country are at AS. Top 24's didn't even tryout for UA!

Um OK. Enjoy your week at AS. However, curious that you are calling UA Plan B when the top 25s from LI are on the UA roster, along with the top 23s from LI. Just finished the UA practice and these girls were there - so even though they appear on both the AS and UA rosters, it is clear where they will be this week (MD and not DE).

But yes, if CR says that AS is the top tournament, then you should most definitely believe it. What other motivation could she have

Hysterical how people buy into the bs!

American Select states on their own website:
TEAM SELECTION PROCESS REDEFINED.
All players within the graduation year and region are welcome to try out and compete for a spot. The tryout process will be unlike any other, with collegiate coaches evaluating and selecting players. Club coaches will not be selecting the teams.

If this is true, then please explain how kids are getting ADDED TO THE ROSTERS well after the try out process was done/completed, and after rosters were posted, There is a new 2024 girl on the LI Red team that was not there before, and was added just this past week AFTER she made the switch to YJ (which also happened outside of any actual try out period!). Fact that they even changed her club team name before any club team try outs is so wrong.

What happened to AS saying NO CLUB COACHES WILL SELECT THE TEAMS? A complete joke!

So, forgive me if I am not quite ready to believe that AS is anything more than another CR money making scandal. It is dirty and wrong, and a shame that club lacrosse has gone to this new low.

Oh, and there are also meant to be 1 team per age group. I guess that rule also does not apply in the event that more $ can be made. Convenient.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um OK. Enjoy your week at AS. However, curious that you are calling UA Plan B when the top 25s from LI are on the UA roster, along with the top 23s from LI. Just finished the UA practice and these girls were there - so even though they appear on both the AS and UA rosters, it is clear where they will be this week (MD and not DE).

But yes, if CR says that AS is the top tournament, then you should most definitely believe it. What other motivation could she have

The YJ starting mid field line is on AS. Aren't they considered top 23's?

Top Player from TG 23 just dumped UA. Was on the UA roster last night now gone. Still on the AS roster. All 25's followed their coach to UA. Where of course all 4 of his kids are on the team. The 3 2024's that made both UA and AS chose AS. Competition is better at AS this year. Maybe LI can finally win since everyone will beat AS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hysterical how people buy into the bs!

American Select states on their own website:
TEAM SELECTION PROCESS REDEFINED.
All players within the graduation year and region are welcome to try out and compete for a spot. The tryout process will be unlike any other, with collegiate coaches evaluating and selecting players. Club coaches will not be selecting the teams.

If this is true, then please explain how kids are getting ADDED TO THE ROSTERS well after the try out process was done/completed, and after rosters were posted, There is a new 2024 girl on the LI Red team that was not there before, and was added just this past week AFTER she made the switch to YJ (which also happened outside of any actual try out period!). Fact that they even changed her club team name before any club team try outs is so wrong.

What happened to AS saying NO CLUB COACHES WILL SELECT THE TEAMS? A complete joke!

So, forgive me if I am not quite ready to believe that AS is anything more than another CR money making scandal. It is dirty and wrong, and a shame that club lacrosse has gone to this new low.

Oh, and there are also meant to be 1 team per age group. I guess that rule also does not apply in the event that more $ can be made. Convenient.

This is true, way worse than UA. I also have a problem with there being two teams when the agreement specifically said there would be one team per age group. That being said for the ‘25 YJs who made UA and and decided to do that, it’s because JS has pull and they didn’t have to pay until the UA tryouts. More BS. As for the comment about the ‘23s. The best girls are split between the two rosters, UA, and AU Black. That seems to be true for other regions as well with the exception of Connecticut where all the best girls in the grade, including the top ranked girl in the grade, are on AS.

Arguably one of the top 23s in the country who is a YJ is at UA and not AS. So, I guess she just like Plan B. I love how you are an expert on where the top competiton will be. Hope you're getting paid for your insights and analysis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um OK. Enjoy your week at AS. However, curious that you are calling UA Plan B when the top 25s from LI are on the UA roster, along with the top 23s from LI. Just finished the UA practice and these girls were there - so even though they appear on both the AS and UA rosters, it is clear where they will be this week (MD and not DE).

But yes, if CR says that AS is the top tournament, then you should most definitely believe it. What other motivation could she have

The YJ starting mid field line is on AS. Aren't they considered top 23's?

NO

Will you guys stop whining and be happy if your daughter is on one lol f those teams! Both events will be top notch and filled with talent and college coaches..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um OK. Enjoy your week at AS. However, curious that you are calling UA Plan B when the top 25s from LI are on the UA roster, along with the top 23s from LI. Just finished the UA practice and these girls were there - so even though they appear on both the AS and UA rosters, it is clear where they will be this week (MD and not DE).

But yes, if CR says that AS is the top tournament, then you should most definitely believe it. What other motivation could she have

The YJ starting mid field line is on AS. Aren't they considered top 23's?

NO

No if’s, or ands about it. Top 24’s - LI players ARE doing AS

which is why so many 25's made the team.

Haha - you mean the YJ 25s on JS team who can BEAT the YJ 24s??? Then again, O'Sullivan almost beat the "top" YJ 24 team. So, yeah. Good point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haha - you mean the YJ 25s on JS team who can BEAT the YJ 24s??? Then again, O'Sullivan almost beat the "top" YJ 24 team. So, yeah. Good point.

25s can beat the Wiener 24s?? When did they? The O’Sullivan thing was a joke. We’re you there? People weren’t even playing there positions . But, then they did and won. “Real” game… wouldn’t even be close. That’s too funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haha - you mean the YJ 25s on JS team who can BEAT the YJ 24s??? Then again, O'Sullivan almost beat the "top" YJ 24 team. So, yeah. Good point.

No Chance. We did not start any attack in the C team game. 2024 is a great team. Set up a game verse 25's.

plus it was a 22 minute joke game. 2024's went on to win the tournament that day at Lax For the Cure!

Woman’s lacrosse is an athletic sport. Some of the ‘25 YJ girls have trolls for parents and this is starting to show and will just get worse. Will be fun to see these parents go ballistic when little Sally gets out played by the faster better athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top Player from TG 23 just dumped UA. Was on the UA roster last night now gone. Still on the AS roster. All 25's followed their coach to UA. Where of course all 4 of his kids are on the team. The 3 2024's that made both UA and AS chose AS. Competition is better at AS this year. Maybe LI can finally win since everyone will beat AS.

You obviously have no clue.
The top players in the 23 class are all on UA.
and obviously the top players from 22.
AS made 2 watered down teams for AS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um OK. Enjoy your week at AS. However, curious that you are calling UA Plan B when the top 25s from LI are on the UA roster, along with the top 23s from LI. Just finished the UA practice and these girls were there - so even though they appear on both the AS and UA rosters, it is clear where they will be this week (MD and not DE).

But yes, if CR says that AS is the top tournament, then you should most definitely believe it. What other motivation could she have

The YJ starting mid field line is on AS. Aren't they considered top 23's?

Starting midfield for YJ on AS??? you sure top YJ girls are on AS??? they were at UA today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

plus it was a 22 minute joke game. 2024's went on to win the tournament that day at Lax For the Cure!

Yup, went on to beat a strong steps team who beat sky walkers! Then YJ won the whole thing. O’Sullivan game was not taken serious until it had to be

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top Player from TG 23 just dumped UA. Was on the UA roster last night now gone. Still on the AS roster. All 25's followed their coach to UA. Where of course all 4 of his kids are on the team. The 3 2024's that made both UA and AS chose AS. Competition is better at AS this year. Maybe LI can finally win since everyone will beat AS.

You obviously have no clue.
The top players in the 23 class are all on UA.
and obviously the top players from 22.
AS made 2 watered down teams for AS.

*AS will be just as good as UA, possibly better for '23s because this is their recruiting year and coaches can watch more of them competing on the same field at the same time.

* If you are a top '23, doing either one was totally unnecessary as coaches have already established their tier for recruiting purposes.

* It may help some good players who had not so great summers, while it could possibly hut those who are already labeled top tier recruits who don't perform well at either UA or AS

* AS is not watered down. The best girls are on the Black team, The Red team is the B team.

* There are several top tier '23 recruits on both UA and AS

* Looks like AS will have better all-around competition, but both events will be competitive and fun

* Good luck to all the girls on both!

I'm just so sick of all of this back and forth that I have no interest in either at this point. It all greedy. Good luck to the girls with the phone calls at Sept 1 because there will be very few because of all of the portals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

Northport girl only scored in County championship when she was left wide open when the second slide didn’t happen. Not once did she dodge past a defender. How can you compare that to the BBP player being face guarded. This is where stats don’t tell the whole story. Both players are tremendous players but the Senior was far more deserving of the award as she affected the game in far more areas than scoring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm just so sick of all of this back and forth that I have no interest in either at this point. It all greedy. Good luck to the girls with the phone calls at Sept 1 because there will be very few because of all of the portals.

All the girls on the AS Black team are all studs. They play these games for fun. They will all have more offers on 9/1 than they need. They are the best of the best!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

Northport girl only scored in County championship when she was left wide open when the second slide didn’t happen. Not once did she dodge past a defender. How can you compare that to the BBP player being face guarded. This is where stats don’t tell the whole story. Both players are tremendous players but the Senior was far more deserving of the award as she affected the game in far more areas than scoring.

Northport girl was also cut from UA, neither girl was really all that great. Lots of '23s better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

Northport girl only scored in County championship when she was left wide open when the second slide didn’t happen. Not once did she dodge past a defender. How can you compare that to the BBP player being face guarded. This is where stats don’t tell the whole story. Both players are tremendous players but the Senior was far more deserving of the award as she affected the game in far more areas than scoring.

Northport girl was also cut from UA, neither girl was really all that great. Lots of '23s better

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

Northport girl only scored in County championship when she was left wide open when the second slide didn’t happen. Not once did she dodge past a defender. How can you compare that to the BBP player being face guarded. This is where stats don’t tell the whole story. Both players are tremendous players but the Senior was far more deserving of the award as she affected the game in far more areas than scoring.

Northport girl was also cut from UA, neither girl was really all that great. Lots of '23s better

OK, 23 parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top Player from TG 23 just dumped UA. Was on the UA roster last night now gone. AND REPLACED BY ANOTHER ELEVATE PLAYER Still on the AS roster. All 25's followed their coach to UA. Where of course all 4 of his kids are on the team. The 3 2024's that made both UA and AS chose AS. Competition is better at AS this year. Maybe LI can finally win since everyone will beat AS.

You obviously have no clue.
The top players in the 23 class are all on UA.
and obviously SOME OF the top players from 22.
AS made 2 watered down teams for AS.

I fixed it for you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

Northport girl only scored in County championship when she was left wide open when the second slide didn’t happen. Not once did she dodge past a defender. How can you compare that to the BBP player being face guarded. This is where stats don’t tell the whole story. Both players are tremendous players but the Senior was far more deserving of the award as she affected the game in far more areas than scoring.

Northport girl was also cut from UA, neither girl was really all that great. Lots of '23s better

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

Google Dave Kotowski and you'll see exactly what you're dealing with.

https://brokercheck.finra.org/individual/summary/2176454#disclosuresSection

The young lady is not as good as advertised and other girls had better tryouts. Yes if CR was in charge she would have been pushed through, which is exactly what everyone had been fighting against. With that said, politics are again an issue as several Jesters and Elevate girls made through without doing anything either 🤷‍♀️

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top Player from TG 23 just dumped UA. Was on the UA roster last night now gone. AND REPLACED BY ANOTHER ELEVATE PLAYER Still on the AS roster. All 25's followed their coach to UA. Where of course all 4 of his kids are on the team. The 3 2024's that made both UA and AS chose AS. Competition is better at AS this year. Maybe LI can finally win since everyone will beat AS.

You obviously have no clue.
The top players in the 23 class are all on UA.
and obviously SOME OF the top players from 22.
AS made 2 watered down teams for AS.

I fixed it for you

Lol, SOME of the good ‘23s are on UA, definitely not ALL! In fact SOME of the best girls didn’t try out and OTHERS are on AS. Same story for the ‘22s . Just because you put it in red doesn’t make it true. Calm down joke parent!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Adults Playing games at all the players expense. Just be fair and balanced. Girls have worked hard for many years and deserve fairness from ALL the adults in leadership roles in this sport no matter what team they are on

They should post the roster before you accept your spot. While a great honor to make the team, you take your spot and then get to see who you’re playing with and realize this is not the strongest team. How do girls that lost to YJ Janelli make a team over girls committed to top 20 D1 schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

Exactly! YJs got a taste of their own medicine. I don’t even think many TG girls tried out after what happened to them last year, they were smart! To make the team, you either had to be lights out at the tryout, or play for Jesters/Elevate. The girls who made it from other clubs did so because they were that good, and will carry the team. Seems their are a few sour YJs who are acting like spoiled brats because they didn’t receive the political favoritism they’re used to!

I love the entitlement on here from parents salty that their All-American D1 committed daughter didn’t make UA despite having a meh tryout. Jealousy is a bad look. Teach your daughter to be humble. She knows she didn’t deserve to make the team, leave it alone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

Exactly! YJs got a taste of their own medicine. I don’t even think many TG girls tried out after what happened to them last year, they were smart! To make the team, you either had to be lights out at the tryout, or play for Jesters/Elevate. The girls who made it from other clubs did so because they were that good, and will carry the team. Seems their are a few sour YJs who are acting like spoiled brats because they didn’t receive the political favoritism they’re used to!

Only 3 jester girls on highlight team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love the entitlement on here from parents salty that their All-American D1 committed daughter didn’t make UA despite having a meh tryout. Jealousy is a bad look. Teach your daughter to be humble. She knows she didn’t deserve to make the team, leave it alone

Comical, teach the adults involved to be adults. Totally BS they are playing games with young girls to get back at each other. SAD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Yes, you can blame him for not being fair and honest when it comes to this. His whole mantra is “to elevate” girls in the game of lacrosse and life. It starts with honesty and fairness

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Yes, you can blame him for not being fair and honest when it comes to this. His whole mantra is “to elevate” girls in the game of lacrosse and life. It starts with honesty and fairness

Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Yes, you can blame him for not being fair and honest when it comes to this. His whole mantra is “to elevate” girls in the game of lacrosse and life. It starts with honesty and fairness

He was fair, he took the girls who stood out at the tryout. If they were even he took his own. Nothing wrong with that. It’s the way it’s always been. Stop crying and tell your daughter to work harder!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Yes, you can blame him for not being fair and honest when it comes to this. His whole mantra is “to elevate” girls in the game of lacrosse and life. It starts with honesty and fairness

Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

This cracks me up every year. People complain about politics but fomo keeps you coming back. The college coaches know these things are run on politics that's why they don't care if you made one of these teams or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Yes, you can blame him for not being fair and honest when it comes to this. His whole mantra is “to elevate” girls in the game of lacrosse and life. It starts with honesty and fairness

He was fair, he took the girls who stood out at the tryout. If they were even he took his own. Nothing wrong with that. It’s the way it’s always been. Stop crying and tell your daughter to work harder!

This has nothing to do with anyone’s daughters. The point being made is about the adults who are running these things and about being honest and fair! Do you seriously believe all this was done in a fair and unbiased way!? It’s the events/UA fault for having the local directors / coach’s as the sole evaluators. If they are going to do that, they need to make sure all the area clubs all have representation during evaluations. Then, they need to behave like adults, work together and look out for the best interest of all the girls. They can present arguments for their teams girls. A one day tryout is a joke too. Can’t evaluate all those players in a few hours. Kind of why you need to know a little of the girls other lacrosse accomplishments. What used to be a prestigious event, probably isn’t any longer? I think college coach’s do not care about If you were on a UA team anymore? They all know the politics involved

They ought to do this combine-style. Only the top 25 in each catagory can get drafted/tryout for the teams. Its getting ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stats absolutely do matter, but so does the team performance. The recipient of the top player was selected for a few reason is my opinion. Her team won the LI Championship, she has mega politics on her side, she is committed to a great school, she was a great player throughout HS, even if this was not her best year, she is a senior. There are a few others that fit most of that criteria, but maybe lack the politics part, such as the Northport girl, who was overall better, but a Jr.

You're not paying attention if you think the Northport player is better than the BBP player..

Much better...not even close. Only one problem was she is a Jr. Look at the County and LI championship performances, and you will see who showed up

Northport girl only scored in County championship when she was left wide open when the second slide didn’t happen. Not once did she dodge past a defender. How can you compare that to the BBP player being face guarded. This is where stats don’t tell the whole story. Both players are tremendous players but the Senior was far more deserving of the award as she affected the game in far more areas than scoring.

She has a long way to go to start comparing her to the BBP player. Really reaching for the stars trying to compare to the most decorated kid on LI and now the National HS player of the year. It would be better to look at her own age group to compare apples to apples and the UA miss does not help even that argument in her own graduating year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That cut was a joke!!! It was a direct jab at CR with that cut. It’s a darn shame they use a young lady in this game they are playing. Pathetic

UA selection definitely took jabs, became more about the evaluators than the participants and that's a shame

Can’t blame Elevate coach for taking his girls especially after what Thorn and Jesters Dad coach did last year. What goes around comes around.

He's a joke and he's showing what a joke his club is

Yes, you can blame him for not being fair and honest when it comes to this. His whole mantra is “to elevate” girls in the game of lacrosse and life. It starts with honesty and fairness

Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

We are not discussing last year, we are discussing this year. So in your theory doing wrong by kids this year makes all right in the world because of the past. B.S. Enjoy your weekend at UA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

We are not discussing last year, we are discussing this year. So in your theory doing wrong by kids this year makes all right in the world because of the past. B.S. Enjoy your weekend at UA

My daughter was selected and she does not play for any of the coaches/clubs affiliated with UA. The coaches have only seen her play against them and at UA tryouts. We don't know them. We've never spoken to them. Maybe the coaches go with the kids they know will produce? Nah, can't be anything like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

We are not discussing last year, we are discussing this year. So in your theory doing wrong by kids this year makes all right in the world because of the past. B.S. Enjoy your weekend at UA

My daughter was selected and she does not play for any of the coaches/clubs affiliated with UA. The coaches have only seen her play against them and at UA tryouts. We don't know them. We've never spoken to them. Maybe the coaches go with the kids they know will produce? Nah, can't be anything like that.

That is impossible, I have read on this site many times that the selections are a joke and you have to be in the friends and family network. The tell me that only AS is a legitimate tryout and that club affiliation and connections do not matter at AS. AS is the only fair process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

We are not discussing last year, we are discussing this year. So in your theory doing wrong by kids this year makes all right in the world because of the past. B.S. Enjoy your weekend at UAthe coaches/clubs affiliated with UA. The coaches have only seen her play against them and at UA tryouts. We don't know them. We've never spoken to them. Maybe the coaches go with the kids they know will produce? Nah, can't be anything like that.

That is impossible, I have read on this site many times that the selections are a joke and you have to be in the friends and family network. The tell me that only AS is a legitimate tryout and that club affiliation and connections do not matter at AS. AS is the only fair process.

AS so legitimate that they made 2 teams??? please stop justifying AS as an elite team. There are girls on YJ’s C team that made AS.
the best 22 and 23 and 25 are on UA. 24’s did AS, that’s it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

We are not discussing last year, we are discussing this year. So in your theory doing wrong by kids this year makes all right in the world because of the past. B.S. Enjoy your weekend at UAthe coaches/clubs affiliated with UA. The coaches have only seen her play against them and at UA tryouts. We don't know them. We've never spoken to them. Maybe the coaches go with the kids they know will produce? Nah, can't be anything like that.

That is impossible, I have read on this site many times that the selections are a joke and you have to be in the friends and family network. The tell me that only AS is a legitimate tryout and that club affiliation and connections do not matter at AS. AS is the only fair process.

AS so legitimate that they made 2 teams??? please stop justifying AS as an elite team. There are girls on YJ’s C team that made AS.
the best 22 and 23 and 25 are on UA. 24’s did AS, that’s it.

Ur dopey. There is an A and B team. Basically D1 and D2 get a chance to play for their prospective coaches

There are people who’ll pay $600 and those that won’t.

This whole system is so messed up this year. No legitimacy in the tryouts at all for either event. When my older kids made the UA team it meant something. After going thru this years tryouts and seeing who made the team and who didn’t, I say you’re in for one heck of a weekend as a stunad tries to showcase his C team players that he put on this roster. This guy couldn’t retain his 25 goalie. She ditched him the night before us lacrosse nationals. His team didn’t even know she wasn’t playing. What did he charge his team for that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are people who’ll pay $600 and those that won’t.

This whole system is so messed up this year. No legitimacy in the tryouts at all for either event. When my older kids made the UA team it meant something. After going thru this years tryouts and seeing who made the team and who didn’t, I say you’re in for one heck of a weekend as a stunad tries to showcase his C team players that he put on this roster. This guy couldn’t retain his 25 goalie. She ditched him the night before us lacrosse nationals. His team didn’t even know she wasn’t playing. What did he charge his team for that?

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes. The only thing I agree with is that the two events should not have conflicted. Some girls who made both were put in a tough position having to pay the money. On the other hand it’s the same amount of money as two prospect camps. Only difference is that prospect camp money goes to volunteer coaches, not money grabbing clubs. Both teams will be fine, but it’s sad to see that it’s about the adults and not the girls.

American Select is a joke. This coach is horrendous. Never saw such poor coaching in my life. What a waste of time and money! Learn a lesson and do not do this!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

American Select is a joke. This coach is horrendous. Never saw such poor coaching in my life. What a waste of time and money! Learn a lesson and do not do this!!

Which region and year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

We are not discussing last year, we are discussing this year. So in your theory doing wrong by kids this year makes all right in the world because of the past. B.S. Enjoy your weekend at UA

My daughter was selected and she does not play for any of the coaches/clubs affiliated with UA. The coaches have only seen her play against them and at UA tryouts. We don't know them. We've never spoken to them. Maybe the coaches go with the kids they know will produce? Nah, can't be anything like that.

That is impossible, I have read on this site many times that the selections are a joke and you have to be in the friends and family network. The tell me that only AS is a legitimate tryout and that club affiliation and connections do not matter at AS. AS is the only fair process.

Believe whatever helps you sleep better at night. We don't know the coaches or those clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

American Select is a joke. This coach is horrendous. Never saw such poor coaching in my life. What a waste of time and money! Learn a lesson and do not do this!!

Which region and year?

I mean, what did you expect? It’s all me-ball. Fine for points(if they can score them) but it leaves lots of ignored/bored middies and attack in its wake. And the coaches are thrown in there. If they do t know your player don’t expect a lot of confidence in your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Where was the fair and honest system last year? Two club Directors took 20 girls combined from their clubs. No Elevate girls were selected. 3 girls outside those two clubs were selected. Did that seem like a fair tryout?

We are not discussing last year, we are discussing this year. So in your theory doing wrong by kids this year makes all right in the world because of the past. B.S. Enjoy your weekend at UA

My daughter was selected and she does not play for any of the coaches/clubs affiliated with UA. The coaches have only seen her play against them and at UA tryouts. We don't know them. We've never spoken to them. Maybe the coaches go with the kids they know will produce? Nah, can't be anything like that.

That is impossible, I have read on this site many times that the selections are a joke and you have to be in the friends and family network. The tell me that only AS is a legitimate tryout and that club affiliation and connections do not matter at AS. AS is the only fair process.

Believe whatever helps you sleep better at night. We don't know the coaches or those clubs.

Pretty sure you are responding to a sarcastic post...

Yes I would love to know which level and region that the coach was horrendous at AS? Please let us know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

Long Island American Select teams do not win an age group championship, make only one finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island American Select teams do not win an age group championship, make only one finals.

Lots of coaches watching the 23s. They weren’t paying attention to the score seems like a win for the 23s that attended.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island American Select teams do not win an age group championship, make only one finals.

Lots of coaches watching the 23s. They weren’t paying attention to the score seems like a win for the 23s that attended.

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic!

Looking at the rosters of the Under armour All American, they have some of the top Long Island players on it. Might have something to do with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at the rosters of the Under armour All American, they have some of the top Long Island players on it. Might have something to do with it.

Painful to watch. Ugly lacrosse

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic![/quote]

The 2023 coach was fantastic! He coached this team with integrity, expertise, and kindness. I suspect I know who this is as I had to hear you during a game yesterday. You sound ridiculous and pathetic and I’m grateful I don’t have to share a sideline w you anytime soon. And are you that dense that you didn’t know CT came into this as nearly an entire travel team? They were exceptional and it was great to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island American Select teams do not win an age group championship, make only one finals.

Lots of coaches watching the 23s. They weren’t paying attention to the score seems like a win for the 23s that attended.

Completely agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

And “WE” are still waiting on the DAF unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. So, they don’t keep allowing this virus to mutate! Look at the level of fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated that are contracting deathly outcomes from the virus! Open your eyes and find your own “truths”. I’m sure you know people who have been effected by this virus! The spread will continue as long as the ignorance and denial does! So, here’s a few emojis for you, 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic!

The 2023 coach was fantastic! He coached this team with integrity, expertise, and kindness. I suspect I know who this is as I had to hear you during a game yesterday. You sound ridiculous and pathetic and I’m grateful I don’t have to share a sideline w you anytime soon. And are you that dense that you didn’t know CT came into this as nearly an entire travel team? They were exceptional and it was great to watch.[/quote]

I agree! The coach was great! The girls played so hard! All of them!!!! It was a terrific event with loads of coaches! We were very happy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic!

The 2023 coach was fantastic! He coached this team with integrity, expertise, and kindness. I suspect I know who this is as I had to hear you during a game yesterday. You sound ridiculous and pathetic and I’m grateful I don’t have to share a sideline w you anytime soon. And are you that dense that you didn’t know CT came into this as nearly an entire travel team? They were exceptional and it was great to watch.[/quote]

Hmmmm…..every other team kept their entire starting lineup in the entire game. This tournament was entirely winnable. It’s ridiculous that every other coach put their best players on the field at crunch time. You can’t have two town girls turn the ball over every time the touch it and take 2mph shots and expect to win. This team was supposed to represent LI. If CR was coaching it would have been a different result.

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic![/quote]

Imagine that? A coach who helped showcase all the members of his team w college coaches in attendance!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic!

Imagine that? A coach who helped showcase all the members of his team w college coaches in attendance![/quote]

Why didn’t the Grizzlies, MD, or NJ coach do that? In the end they didn’t win, but they put their team in the best position to do so. The first 5 games I get that everyone should play. But in the payoffs it should be play to win. LI could have come away with the win if properly coached

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic!

Imagine that? A coach who helped showcase all the members of his team w college coaches in attendance![/quote]

Some girls are definitely crossed off the list after their performance! Better off not doing this

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Really? LI is in a super weak bracket in a watered down event. Don’t speak too soon. Still have to get out of weak bracket and play “to win”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

I think the LI girls at AS played much tougher comp, right from the start compared to what UA /LI teams seem to have had to face so far.? Especially in the younger age group. Looks like Weak bracket to start at UA for LI girls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A shame that the ‘23 coach didn’t play to win in the semis. He played all the girls equally, some couldn’t catch or throw. Meanwhile the Grizzlies kept their best players on the field the entire game. Guess he wanted to get home faster to beat the traffic!

The 2023 coach was fantastic! He coached this team with integrity, expertise, and kindness. I suspect I know who this is as I had to hear you during a game yesterday. You sound ridiculous and pathetic and I’m grateful I don’t have to share a sideline w you anytime soon. And are you that dense that you didn’t know CT came into this as nearly an entire travel team? They were exceptional and it was great to watch.

Hmmmm…..every other team kept their entire starting lineup in the entire game. This tournament was entirely winnable. It’s ridiculous that every other coach put their best players on the field at crunch time. You can’t have two town girls turn the ball over every time the touch it and take 2mph shots and expect to win. This team was supposed to represent LI. If CR was coaching it would have been a different result.[/quote]

No LI team won this at any age level.
Calm down

Unreal parent complaint. 23 LI coach got team in a position to tie the game late (against CT who blew them out 2 days earlier) and the ball didn’t go in, it happens. If you know lacrosse you wouldn’t be making these statements.

23 coach is the best on LI - you just might not be used to seeing good coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

I think the LI girls at AS played much tougher comp, right from the start compared to what UA /LI teams seem to have had to face so far.? Especially in the younger age group. Looks like Weak bracket to start at UA for LI girls

Wahhhh wahhhhh. Supposed to be the best of the best select players in both these events right ? competition is competition. younger teams should have been able to pull it off instead of barely making playoffs, barely. A lot of AS teams were nearly an entire A or B club team. Are you saying your teams would lose like that in your regular club season to that same region? If not that can only mean the key club players were at UA.

The competition was at AS and so we’re the coaches, it’s as simple as that. On average 50 coaches from the top schools were at every game. That’s what it was all about and it was a great event. We possibly could have won if we had only starters play but we were there for the girls to be seen! I’m pretty sure most of the team appreciates that except the one BadPerson bag whom everyone knows who it is.

Should we analyze all the girl’s mistakes? Or just two you personally didn’t want on the field. Gross

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unreal parent complaint. 23 LI coach got team in a position to tie the game late (against CT who blew them out 2 days earlier) and the ball didn’t go in, it happens. If you know lacrosse you wouldn’t be making these statements.

23 coach is the best on LI - you just might not be used to seeing good coaching.

Lol, says the Legacy player groupie dad. There’s a reason your team doesn’t win anything and your best player went to UA instead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

And “WE” are still waiting on the DAF unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. So, they don’t keep allowing this virus to mutate! Look at the level of fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated that are contracting deathly outcomes from the virus! Open your eyes and find your own “truths”. I’m sure you know people who have been effected by this virus! The spread will continue as long as the ignorance and denial does! So, here’s a few emojis for you, 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠

I know people who were hospitalized after getting the vaccine. I also know people who contracted Covid after being fully vaccinated. Those are truths.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

And “WE” are still waiting on the DAF unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. So, they don’t keep allowing this virus to mutate! Look at the level of fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated that are contracting deathly outcomes from the virus! Open your eyes and find your own “truths”. I’m sure you know people who have been effected by this virus! The spread will continue as long as the ignorance and denial does! So, here’s a few emojis for you, 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠

I know people who were hospitalized after getting the vaccine. I also know people who contracted Covid after being fully vaccinated. Those are truths.

Ok, so you do know people being affected by this horrible virus!? Hmmm …Are the vaccinated hospitalized people you know on death beds situation or on ventilators?? Plenty of unvaccinated people are - unnecessarily, right now! That’s the “horrible truth” - (unnecessarily in the hospital on a ventilator)

You know a lot of people with Covid. You should be careful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

And “WE” are still waiting on the DAF unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. So, they don’t keep allowing this virus to mutate! Look at the level of fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated that are contracting deathly outcomes from the virus! Open your eyes and find your own “truths”. I’m sure you know people who have been effected by this virus! The spread will continue as long as the ignorance and denial does! So, here’s a few emojis for you, 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠

"Find your own truths" ... in other words just make $#!& up or believe what you are being fed...

You still haven't answered the guys/gals question. What is one Truth that has been disseminated from the day that this virus was released on the world?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

And “WE” are still waiting on the DAF unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. So, they don’t keep allowing this virus to mutate! Look at the level of fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated that are contracting deathly outcomes from the virus! Open your eyes and find your own “truths”. I’m sure you know people who have been effected by this virus! The spread will continue as long as the ignorance and denial does! So, here’s a few emojis for you, 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠

"Find your own truths" ... in other words just make $#!& up or believe what you are being fed...

You still haven't answered the guys/gals question. What is one Truth that has been disseminated from the day that this virus was released on the world?

DENIAL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

And “WE” are still waiting on the DAF unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. So, they don’t keep allowing this virus to mutate! Look at the level of fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated that are contracting deathly outcomes from the virus! Open your eyes and find your own “truths”. I’m sure you know people who have been effected by this virus! The spread will continue as long as the ignorance and denial does! So, here’s a few emojis for you, 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠

I know people who were hospitalized after getting the vaccine. I also know people who contracted Covid after being fully vaccinated. Those are truths.

You just keep drinking your “Q”oolaid. And, Play virus roulette with your life. Good luck with that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you tell us what QAnon says so we could weigh the pros and cons of this debate?

Is that your answer to the questions?

I realize that you know very little but can you at the very least simply tell us just one "truth" (related to lockdowns, masks, quarantines, medications, vaccines etc...) that has been disseminated to the public since the inception of the COVID 19 Virus.

If you want to make this political …Here’s a truth that just came right out of the man DTs mouth himself today. (Unless there was a ventriloquist with him). He suggest you get vaccinated! Hmmm , and he did as well a long time ago.

Also, the very republican governor of Alabama said the unvaccinated citizens of her state are “The Problem”. She just doesn’t get why the heck they wouldn’t get vaccinated. Duh

We are still waiting on one single Truth.... apparently individuals who have been fully vaccinated are getting Covid and Mask Mandates are once again being proposed and or implemented even for the fully vaccinated.

🐑🐑🐑🐑 baaaa baaaa baaaa

And “WE” are still waiting on the DAF unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. So, they don’t keep allowing this virus to mutate! Look at the level of fully vaccinated versus unvaccinated that are contracting deathly outcomes from the virus! Open your eyes and find your own “truths”. I’m sure you know people who have been effected by this virus! The spread will continue as long as the ignorance and denial does! So, here’s a few emojis for you, 🦠 🦠 🦠 🦠

"Find your own truths" ... in other words just make $#!& up or believe what you are being fed...

You still haven't answered the guys/gals question. What is one Truth that has been disseminated from the day that this virus was released on the world?

You are that guy/gal. Surprised you haven’t moved to Florida yet? Oh wait, maybe afraid of getting Covid if you do? Due to the total ignorance there of the virus!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

What is the deal with two M&D 2022 players being added last minute to the American Select MD 2022 team roster? I’m sure those who paid $125 to tryout were thrilled about that one. Especially those girls who didn’t make a team (any region or year). Behind the back deals like this are what ruins the reputation of these “elite” events. I’m sure the fact that both of these players have political/family/friend connections to club and tournament owners, directors and college coaches had zero to do with it too? I’m sure any girl could be added to such a distinguished roster last minute? I was shocked when I saw this. Whomever was responsible should be banned from future involvement. I thought this event was supposed to be better than UA??!! I’m sure the fact that these two additions haven’t committed yet is reason they were added as a favor. I’m sure there are many other just as talented uncommitted 2022’s who would’ve loved the opportunity to play in a recruiting event like this. Shame on AS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Exactly! Good for UA and the coaches for bringing home the win. A shame the AS team didn’t have a coach who knew how to win a game. There were many girls on the UA team that didn’t see the the field in the championship and that’s ok. If you leave your best players out there, they will make mistakes and even get cards, but will find a way to win the game! All the girls were thrilled in the end to go home winners! Congratulations!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Exactly! Good for UA and the coaches for bringing home the win. A shame the AS team didn’t have a coach who knew how to win a game. There were many girls on the UA team that didn’t see the the field in the championship and that’s ok. If you leave your best players out there, they will make mistakes and even get cards, but will find a way to win the game! All the girls were thrilled in the end to go home winners! Congratulations!

Hmmm, the 22s and 23s that “did not see the field” in championship game I can’t imagine are really all that thrilled!? The coaches there did not get to see them play in their recruiting year! Coach thinks …They are not good enough to play in a championship game? That stinks , but they got medals? And a blurb for resume… great, I guess?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Exactly! Good for UA and the coaches for bringing home the win. A shame the AS team didn’t have a coach who knew how to win a game. There were many girls on the UA team that didn’t see the the field in the championship and that’s ok. If you leave your best players out there, they will make mistakes and even get cards, but will find a way to win the game! All the girls were thrilled in the end to go home winners! Congratulations!

Hmmm, the 22s and 23s that “did not see the field” in championship game I can’t imagine are really all that thrilled!? The coaches there did not get to see them play in their recruiting year! Coach thinks …They are not good enough to play in a championship game? That stinks , but they got medals? And a blurb for resume… great, I guess?

What about the two Duke commits who we’re All Americans and cut from the Under Armour team during tryouts. What do you think their coach thinks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Exactly! Good for UA and the coaches for bringing home the win. A shame the AS team didn’t have a coach who knew how to win a game. There were many girls on the UA team that didn’t see the the field in the championship and that’s ok. If you leave your best players out there, they will make mistakes and even get cards, but will find a way to win the game! All the girls were thrilled in the end to go home winners! Congratulations!

Hmmm, the 22s and 23s that “did not see the field” in championship game I can’t imagine are really all that thrilled!? The coaches there did not get to see them play in their recruiting year! Coach thinks …They are not good enough to play in a championship game? That stinks , but they got medals? And a blurb for resume… great, I guess?

A shame the competition wasn’t watered down. Both tournaments flexing their muscles claiming they had the best in the country. Sad it’s at the expense of the girls. These events did not have to be at the same time. The talent was 100% split, and it makes you wonder how it would have turned out if all the top players were at the same event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Exactly! Good for UA and the coaches for bringing home the win. A shame the AS team didn’t have a coach who knew how to win a game. There were many girls on the UA team that didn’t see the the field in the championship and that’s ok. If you leave your best players out there, they will make mistakes and even get cards, but will find a way to win the game! All the girls were thrilled in the end to go home winners! Congratulations!

Hmmm, the 22s and 23s that “did not see the field” in championship game I can’t imagine are really all that thrilled!? The coaches there did not get to see them play in their recruiting year! Coach thinks …They are not good enough to play in a championship game? That stinks , but they got medals? And a blurb for resume… great, I guess?

Agreed, seemed like a very big contribution from a small group of players..
The only stats Dave’s elevate players earned were turn overs…he should be thanking the Smiths for lending him their TG team

they all played all weekend and got seen by every top coach in the country. They tightened the bench in the playoffs and won the whole thing. They all had smiles after the WIN. Congrats to Long Island Girls for bringing home Ship!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they all played all weekend and got seen by every top coach in the country. They tightened the bench in the playoffs and won the whole thing. They all had smiles after the WIN. Congrats to Long Island Girls for bringing home Ship!!

Dave had to tighten the bench up to beat a tough Philly team. Long Island won even if some girls didn't get an opportunity to play its the nature of a competitive lacrosse game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Exactly! Good for UA and the coaches for bringing home the win. A shame the AS team didn’t have a coach who knew how to win a game. There were many girls on the UA team that didn’t see the the field in the championship and that’s ok. If you leave your best players out there, they will make mistakes and even get cards, but will find a way to win the game! All the girls were thrilled in the end to go home winners! Congratulations!

Hmmm, the 22s and 23s that “did not see the field” in championship game I can’t imagine are really all that thrilled!? The coaches there did not get to see them play in their recruiting year! Coach thinks …They are not good enough to play in a championship game? That stinks , but they got medals? And a blurb for resume… great, I guess?

Not everyone gets a participation trophy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

The competition at AS was great! College coaches were there and watching all the girls play. It was about getting seen. Girls played great and had super competition. Was a great event for the girls.

There were no coaches there on Saturday. They all left for UA. Did not watch any of the semis, consolation games or championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Meanwhile…UA girls are cruising and playing to win! Great coaching!

Not true

Great coaching having the best players on the field was the key to the victory.

Exactly! Good for UA and the coaches for bringing home the win. A shame the AS team didn’t have a coach who knew how to win a game. There were many girls on the UA team that didn’t see the the field in the championship and that’s ok. If you leave your best players out there, they will make mistakes and even get cards, but will find a way to win the game! All the girls were thrilled in the end to go home winners! Congratulations!

Hmmm, the 22s and 23s that “did not see the field” in championship game I can’t imagine are really all that thrilled!? The coaches there did not get to see them play in their recruiting year! Coach thinks …They are not good enough to play in a championship game? That stinks , but they got medals? And a blurb for resume… great, I guess?

Not everyone gets a participation trophy.

The problem is that several girls on both UA and AS were really not very good players, and should not have been on an all-star type of team. They made the team due to politics. When it came to playing, they hurt the team because they could not play at a high level and took terrible slow shots into the goalie's stick, were too slow to pick up a ground ball, or constantly turned the ball over every time they touched it. What is baffling, is the amount of playing time some of these girls got over clearly better players. Do you really think that type of play was helping them get recruited?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they all played all weekend and got seen by every top coach in the country. They tightened the bench in the playoffs and won the whole thing. They all had smiles after the WIN. Congrats to Long Island Girls for bringing home Ship!!

Dave had to tighten the bench up to beat a tough Philly team. Long Island won even if some girls didn't get an opportunity to play its the nature of a competitive lacrosse game.

“Dave” had to tighten his bench to win, because he omitted some of the best players on LI to begin with from the team. (DUKE). UA selections were flawed once again. Plenty of amazing talent on LI. I would think any girl “selected” to represent at UA is of the caliber to play in a championship game. Truth being, “they” were showcasing a few, and playing politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they all played all weekend and got seen by every top coach in the country. They tightened the bench in the playoffs and won the whole thing. They all had smiles after the WIN. Congrats to Long Island Girls for bringing home Ship!!

Dave had to tighten the bench up to beat a tough Philly team. Long Island won even if some girls didn't get an opportunity to play its the nature of a competitive lacrosse game.

Too bad it didn't occur to Ryan to do that. AS was totally winnable, but rotating in girls who let up goals in a semi-final was a killer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they all played all weekend and got seen by every top coach in the country. They tightened the bench in the playoffs and won the whole thing. They all had smiles after the WIN. Congrats to Long Island Girls for bringing home Ship!!

Dave had to tighten the bench up to beat a tough Philly team. Long Island won even if some girls didn't get an opportunity to play its the nature of a competitive lacrosse game.

Too bad it didn't occur to Ryan to do that. AS was totally winnable, but rotating in girls who let up goals in a semi-final was a killer!

Came down to best attacker trying to tie game and missing shot. Team would not have been put into that position if the best players stayed on the field. A couple of proven attackers watching game from sideline the team breakdown. No plan

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they all played all weekend and got seen by every top coach in the country. They tightened the bench in the playoffs and won the whole thing. They all had smiles after the WIN. Congrats to Long Island Girls for bringing home Ship!!

Dave had to tighten the bench up to beat a tough Philly team. Long Island won even if some girls didn't get an opportunity to play its the nature of a competitive lacrosse game.

Watched the game, didn’t think the Philly team was very tough at all. They had one player just like UA

Must feel good bringing home the “ship” when you did Not have to play CT (Grizzlies) and top talent at AS. Watered down competition.

No patients. Plenty of time. Should not have shot. Could have found a good shot instead of right at goalie. Coach could have tightened bench to win for sure but played all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must feel good bringing home the “ship” when you did Not have to play CT (Grizzlies) and top talent at AS. Watered down competition.

While you're right the results of both tournaments would've been different if played on different weekends, you play the teams in front of you.. LI won, give credit where its due. Not sure why they felt the need to "tighten the bench" against a team they beat by 7 the day before.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must feel good bringing home the “ship” when you did Not have to play CT (Grizzlies) and top talent at AS. Watered down competition.

While you're right the results of both tournaments would've been different if played on different weekends, you play the teams in front of you.. LI won, give credit where its due. Not sure why they felt the need to "tighten the bench" against a team they beat by 7 the day before.

How about this folks. Some kids had a great experience at either AS or UA. Some kids didn't. Some kids got cut or made the teams based on politics some didn't. Some families have the time and money to do these events some don't. Some kids will get recruited by the schools they hope for, some won't. College coaches look at a body of work through out a year which can include HS games, club games, showcases, "elite teams" such as AS and UA , camps and other showcases. Anyone of these can be the one that gets you on the list to start the conversation. So lets all hope that the kids enjoy whatever path they and their families choose. The only reason this debate exists is FOMO. It will all work out no matter what path you choose. College coaches are smart people. They know what to look for and they don't care what venue they see it at as long as they see it. As we see there are still 22's committing as of today. It all works out, for some it's quick for some it takes some time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they all played all weekend and got seen by every top coach in the country. They tightened the bench in the playoffs and won the whole thing. They all had smiles after the WIN. Congrats to Long Island Girls for bringing home Ship!!

Dave had to tighten the bench up to beat a tough Philly team. Long Island won even if some girls didn't get an opportunity to play its the nature of a competitive lacrosse game.

Too bad it didn't occur to Ryan to do that. AS was totally winnable, but rotating in girls who let up goals in a semi-final was a killer!

Came down to best attacker trying to tie game and missing shot. Team would not have been put into that position if the best players stayed on the field. A couple of proven attackers watching game from sideline the team breakdown. No plan

It took the team awhile to mesh. Not a lot of passing going on in the beginning and lots of wide open players with opportunities to score were missed, lots of turnovers All good players all deserved to be there. They def could have won

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must feel good bringing home the “ship” when you did Not have to play CT (Grizzlies) and top talent at AS. Watered down competition.

While you're right the results of both tournaments would've been different if played on different weekends, you play the teams in front of you.. LI won, give credit where its due. Not sure why they felt the need to "tighten the bench" against a team they beat by 7 the day before.

How about this folks. Some kids had a great experience at either AS or UA. Some kids didn't. Some kids got cut or made the teams based on politics some didn't. Some families have the time and money to do these events some don't. Some kids will get recruited by the schools they hope for, some won't. College coaches look at a body of work through out a year which can include HS games, club games, showcases, "elite teams" such as AS and UA , camps and other showcases. Anyone of these can be the one that gets you on the list to start the conversation. So lets all hope that the kids enjoy whatever path they and their families choose. The only reason this debate exists is FOMO. It will all work out no matter what path you choose. College coaches are smart people. They know what to look for and they don't care what venue they see it at as long as they see it. As we see there are still 22's committing as of today. It all works out, for some it's quick for some it takes some time.

Well said!! Good luck to ALL the LI girls in their recruitment years! We are fortunate to have such great lacrosse on LI and plenty of opportunities with different clubs. There really does seem to be a place for everyone. That’s a good thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must feel good bringing home the “ship” when you did Not have to play CT (Grizzlies) and top talent at AS. Watered down competition.

While you're right the results of both tournaments would've been different if played on different weekends, you play the teams in front of you.. LI won, give credit where its due. Not sure why they felt the need to "tighten the bench" against a team they beat by 7 the day before.

How about this folks. Some kids had a great experience at either AS or UA. Some kids didn't. Some kids got cut or made the teams based on politics some didn't. Some families have the time and money to do these events some don't. Some kids will get recruited by the schools they hope for, some won't. College coaches look at a body of work through out a year which can include HS games, club games, showcases, "elite teams" such as AS and UA , camps and other showcases. Anyone of these can be the one that gets you on the list to start the conversation. So lets all hope that the kids enjoy whatever path they and their families choose. The only reason this debate exists is FOMO. It will all work out no matter what path you choose. College coaches are smart people. They know what to look for and they don't care what venue they see it at as long as they see it. As we see there are still 22's committing as of today. It all works out, for some it's quick for some it takes some time.

Well said!! Good luck to ALL the LI girls in their recruitment years! We are fortunate to have such great lacrosse on LI and plenty of opportunities with different clubs. There really does seem to be a place for everyone. That’s a good thing.

Agreed! Both of those teams ua and AS black represented the best of the best on long island! All amazing and everyone will find a spot! Good luck to all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interest? funny, everybody has interest...let us know when you get that big offer from the top d1 programs.

Interest means nothing. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interest? funny, everybody has interest...let us know when you get that big offer from the top d1 programs.

Interest means nothing. Good luck!

Are you sharing this because you have a daughter who was burned. You went to all the prospects camps and coach was nice to her? You thought she would get all these offers but didn’t? The girls who will be getting offers already know!

Congratulations to all who participated in the Under Armour Senior All-America game . It is truly a shame that the powers that be started a competing event for the underclass players. I realize that there have been complaints about the selection process for the UA Underclass games but overall the event (underclass tournament & Senior games) has been great for the sport.

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

How would you know if he did a good job or a bad job? You weren’t there. You saw 1 game on TV where LI admittedly sat about 6 girls and played only their all stars. They eeked out a 2 goal win over a team they beat by 7 the day before ( in which every one played)
Sounds like the philly team adjusted not the LI team.
By the way LI has either played in or won the championship in The HL division 4 of last 5 years, so not much of a stretch to make it to the final game. The real shock was that Baltimore wasn’t there and didn’t get past philly..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

The UA girls teams were on fire! So happy for the highlight team to being the ship home. This was the place to be !

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Isnt it about the best kids in their class ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

That’s exactly why you don’t have to do these events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

The UA girls teams were on fire! So happy for the highlight team to being the ship home. This was the place to be !

Nope! Not the place. Where was the real comp. at? LI did not even have to play the top competition. Barely eeeked a win against Philly! Grizzlies would have chewed that LI team up and spit them out!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

I’m sure his Elevate Team has plenty of open spots from girls who probably bolted due to lack of coaching for their teams. You don’t have to wait until next year. You can go there and play. Hit him up, sure he would give your daughter a tryout. Good luck !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Isnt it about the best kids in their class ?[/quote

It’s the best kids in the class of the kids that are willing
To pay, it’s kind of like comparing the nysr to the
Old empire games. Back in the day the empire games
Were invite tryouts that were set up by high school
Coaches with no financial stake. It was all expenses
Paid. Stayed in dorms at Syracuse. Coach bus from
Long Island all free. The best kids made it regardless
Of ability to pay. Things are different now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

The scary thing is, it’s not just you who has that insane mindset. “Limit the number of appearances”, “diversity”? Honestly, what is wrong with you?

You say that you would like to have a real discussion but it is obvious that you do not want to hear opinions from others if the opinions differ from yours, otherwise you would not say “before you all start with the participation trophies comments “.

Next you will be asking the best college programs to stop offering spots to the best players.

“Diversity” is the enemy of excellence!

I'll never get the parents of juniors and seniors obsessed with winning a championship or who beat whom. Is your daughter getting exposure to her target list of schools? Is she enjoying the game?

Some choose to tryout for UA and AS for opportunities for exposure to often a large population of coaches and should know politics will be involved. Open your eyes, jockeying for a better position I.e politics is just human nature and happens everywhere in life not just lax.

Find the right club for your daughter that fits her aspirations, challenges her, and affords her the opportunity to be seen. Successful college coaches don't care about your daughters team wins and loses they care about do they fill a need for their program, will she fit with the current team dynamics, can she meet academic standards. Do you really think they care about the score on the flip board? Successful programs are evaluating whether your daughter is a team player, continues to play at 100% when the game is clearly already decided and is she an impact player on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll never get the parents of juniors and seniors obsessed with winning a championship or who beat whom. Is your daughter getting exposure to her target list of schools? Is she enjoying the game?

Some choose to tryout for UA and AS for opportunities for exposure to often a large population of coaches and should know politics will be involved. Open your eyes, jockeying for a better position I.e politics is just human nature and happens everywhere in life not just lax.

Find the right club for your daughter that fits her aspirations, challenges her, and affords her the opportunity to be seen. Successful college coaches don't care about your daughters team wins and loses they care about do they fill a need for their program, will she fit with the current team dynamics, can she meet academic standards. Do you really think they care about the score on the flip board? Successful programs are evaluating whether your daughter is a team player, continues to play at 100% when the game is clearly already decided and is she an impact player on the field.

Amen!

Grizzlies lost to NJ and as I was told by NJ parents at the UA semi final game vs NJ (the best 22's and 23's did UA; mostly 22's) Long Island beat NJ's best 7-3 in a well played semi finals despite the pouring rain. Grizzlies got beat basically by 12 Steps Blue girls. Baltimore was upset by one goal to Philly. Yes Long Island beat them by 7 goals, but it was first game of tourney at 8am; we all knew it was going to be a tougher Philly team in the finals. The bench got tightened because it has too in the playoffs. Espo and Dave did a great job running 3 middie lines and 6 attackman during pool play, but with 12 min running quarters during the playoffs there are certain girls that need to be on the field more.. Philly I am sure did the same.
Everyone can say what they want but, nothing compares to UA underclass event when it comes to girls HS lacrosse; and the college coaches all agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

The UA girls teams were on fire! So happy for the highlight team to being the ship home. This was the place to be !

Nope! Not the place. Where was the real comp. at? LI did not even have to play the top competition. Barely eeeked a win against Philly! Grizzlies would have chewed that LI team up and spit them out!!

someone sounds sour that they lost at AS / didnt even make a playoff game. go do your breathing exercises. you will be the first in line next year to register for UA and you know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

The UA girls teams were on fire! So happy for the highlight team to being the ship home. This was the place to be !

Nope! Not the place. Where was the real comp. at? LI did not even have to play the top competition. Barely eeeked a win against Philly! Grizzlies would have chewed that LI team up and spit them out!!

someone sounds sour that they lost at AS / didnt even make a playoff game. go do your breathing exercises. you will be the first in line next year to register for UA and you know

Who didn’t make a playoff game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzlies lost to NJ and as I was told by NJ parents at the UA semi final game vs NJ (the best 22's and 23's did UA; mostly 22's) Long Island beat NJ's best 7-3 in a well played semi finals despite the pouring rain. Grizzlies got beat basically by 12 Steps Blue girls. Baltimore was upset by one goal to Philly. Yes Long Island beat them by 7 goals, but it was first game of tourney at 8am; we all knew it was going to be a tougher Philly team in the finals. The bench got tightened because it has too in the playoffs. Espo and Dave did a great job running 3 middie lines and 6 attackman during pool play, but with 12 min running quarters during the playoffs there are certain girls that need to be on the field more.. Philly I am sure did the same.
Everyone can say what they want but, nothing compares to UA underclass event when it comes to girls HS lacrosse; and the college coaches all agree

Traditionally, Under Armour Underclass has been the most competitive HS tournament. There have always been complaints about the selection process but most were sour grapes. It seems that last year some of the complaints were legit. Now that club directors have created their own event UA needs to do a better job with the evaluation and selection process. When my oldest first tried out there was no CR /YJ involvement and I think 17 or 18 of the players were Yellow Jackets.

I hope they figure it out because it is a great event!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing long island won the championship at UA. Dave did something right. All I hear is sour grapes over the one girl going to Duke who didn't make it. Get over it. Maybe she had a so so tryout and other girls played better that day it happens. So that tells me politics wasn't in it as much as everyone is making it out to be. Sorry folks I know alot of people don't like dave but he has a good heart and not out to hurt anyone. He is a very good coach. All these year Carol rose took her almost entire team so give me a break. Guess what Dave coached a championship team so kudos to him. I guess he picked the right girls!

Agreed! He did a great job, and my daughter played on AS. Hope he coaches gain next year! Will definitely be trying out!

The UA girls teams were on fire! So happy for the highlight team to being the ship home. This was the place to be !

Nope! Not the place. Where was the real comp. at? LI did not even have to play the top competition. Barely eeeked a win against Philly! Grizzlies would have chewed that LI team up and spit them out!!

someone sounds sour that they lost at AS / didnt even make a playoff game. go do your breathing exercises. you will be the first in line next year to register for UA and you know

Don't ever let facts get the way of a good rant.

For those who have gone through the recruiting process, my daughter who is a ‘23 has received a few personal text messages from coaches the past couple days asking her to fill out a questionnaire. Some of these same coaches have also contact our club director to express interest. Since there are no more recruiting events this summer would you say this is a strong indication that she will receive offers? Has this happen to anyone else and not receive communication on September 1?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

I know exactly what you mean but it will never happen.
There are players (mainly just the parents) who will fly all over the country chasing accolades. It gets annoying seeing the same sports family at all of the top competitions, trolling for highlights. They even have their own professional video production crews.
Consider it flattering that there are not enough lax bros in Colorado and they all want to come here to play. East Coast lettuce can never be trumped by Co or Tx lettuce!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

I know exactly what you mean but it will never happen.
There are players (mainly just the parents) who will fly all over the country chasing accolades. It gets annoying seeing the same sports family at all of the top competitions, trolling for highlights. They even have their own professional video production crews.
Consider it flattering that there are not enough lax bros in Colorado and they all want to come here to play. East Coast lettuce can never be trumped by Co or Tx lettuce!

None of these events should be based on talent, everybody should get a chance.... Good grief.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

No but you can't qualify for the same event more then 1 time.

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

No a participation trophy is not what is being called for. Take the recent UA and AS tryouts. Slots were already awarded by AS prior to UA. Why should a person then tryout for UA if the tournament is at the same time. Not saying let everyone get in. Once selected accept or don't tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

I know exactly what you mean but it will never happen.
There are players (mainly just the parents) who will fly all over the country chasing accolades. It gets annoying seeing the same sports family at all of the top competitions, trolling for highlights. They even have their own professional video production crews.
Consider it flattering that there are not enough lax bros in Colorado and they all want to come here to play. East Coast lettuce can never be trumped by Co or Tx lettuce!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

I know exactly what you mean but it will never happen.
There are players (mainly just the parents) who will fly all over the country chasing accolades. It gets annoying seeing the same sports family at all of the top competitions, trolling for highlights. They even have their own professional video production crews.

Consider it flattering that there are not enough lax bros in Colorado and they all want to come here to play. East Coast lettuce can never be trumped by Co or Tx lettuce!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

“Limit number of appearances”? That’s not how it works. Who? Would limit it? There are obviously some girls who train and work harder than others. Do you limit the amount of medals you can win in an Olympics? No!!! You train hard and you can win as many medals as races you can win. That’s the way competition works. Now, opportunity/exposure is another topic. But, definitely limit is not the answer. There will always be a few athletes who stand out and are at everything. Prob. Means they worked/work hard to be doing the top events.

Maybe the time has come to limit the number of good players a college program can bring in. It always seems to be th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me but is the same girls on all these teams. I know it's about exposure. Maybe the time has come to limit the number of appearances each girl can make to allow for some diversity, Before you all start with the participation trophies comments can we have a real discussion.

Nonsense. How can you have a real discussion if you try to limit what can be discussed? A "participation trophy" is exactly what you are calling for. You are entitled to your opinion but so are others. Diversity has no place in competition.

I know exactly what you mean but it will never happen.
There are players (mainly just the parents) who will fly all over the country chasing accolades. It gets annoying seeing the same sports family at all of the top competitions, trolling for highlights. They even have their own professional video production crews.
Consider it flattering that there are not enough lax bros in Colorado and they all want to come here to play. East Coast lettuce can never be trumped by Co or Tx lettuce!

Hey I got an Idea have only 1 so called All American Tournament . That way only the best players go . Instead of having all these money grab events.

Problem solved

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who have gone through the recruiting process, my daughter who is a ‘23 has received a few personal text messages from coaches the past couple days asking her to fill out a questionnaire. Some of these same coaches have also contact our club director to express interest. Since there are no more recruiting events this summer would you say this is a strong indication that she will receive offers? Has this happen to anyone else and not receive communication on September 1?

For sure it’s a positive sign. The 9/1 contacts will not be offers ( for 99% of the girls) but a text saying hey we saw you, we like your game, let’s talk more.. maybe schedule a campus visit or a zoom so they can tell her more about the school the coaches etc, and they will want to know you and her also.
Don’t expect to be wrapped up by the end of the week…

Of course there will be some early movement.. I doubt The Grizzly 2023 will be around very long. And some LI girls will go quick too But for 99% of you it’s gonna be a little process. It will be stressful etc but your D gets to do it once… slow it down and soak it in.

I didn’t realize that D1’s were allowed to personally text a 2023 student. I think colleges contacting clubs expressing interest is a positive sign but the personal text might be a violation of NCAA rules. My 2023 DD only communicates one on one at this point with d2 and d3. Hopeful for contact on Sept 1 from D1’s, but we are waiting to have our recruiting director put the effort forward with the best matches and expect to have a better idea come September.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn’t realize that D1’s were allowed to personally text a 2023 student. I think colleges contacting clubs expressing interest is a positive sign but the personal text might be a violation of NCAA rules. My 2023 DD only communicates one on one at this point with d2 and d3. Hopeful for contact on Sept 1 from D1’s, but we are waiting to have our recruiting director put the effort forward with the best matches and expect to have a better idea come September.

It’s a general txt w/ a questionnaire-there is no communication so it is not a violation. My daughter (a 22) had many through out last summer from 2 specific schools that sent her a txt w/ questions to answer. Those schools contacted her at midnight on Sept 1st.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who have gone through the recruiting process, my daughter who is a ‘23 has received a few personal text messages from coaches the past couple days asking her to fill out a questionnaire. Some of these same coaches have also contact our club director to express interest. Since there are no more recruiting events this summer would you say this is a strong indication that she will receive offers? Has this happen to anyone else and not receive communication on September 1?

For sure it’s a positive sign. The 9/1 contacts will not be offers ( for 99% of the girls) but a text saying hey we saw you, we like your game, let’s talk more.. maybe schedule a campus visit or a zoom so they can tell her more about the school the coaches etc, and they will want to know you and her also.
Don’t expect to be wrapped up by the end of the week…

Of course there will be some early movement.. I doubt The Grizzly 2023 will be around very long. And some LI girls will go quick too But for 99% of you it’s gonna be a little process. It will be stressful etc but your D gets to do it once… slow it down and soak it in.

Yes. Duke coach sent out a letter to clubs stating interest today. But it will be a tough decision if their are multiple offers involved. Good luck to all the girls and hoping they all find a home they love! My question is…how fast do you need to move? Would love for my daughter to go on a few official visits before deciding.

Congrats Duke parent! That’s incredibly exciting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who have gone through the recruiting process, my daughter who is a ‘23 has received a few personal text messages from coaches the past couple days asking her to fill out a questionnaire. Some of these same coaches have also contact our club director to express interest. Since there are no more recruiting events this summer would you say this is a strong indication that she will receive offers? Has this happen to anyone else and not receive communication on September 1?

For sure it’s a positive sign. The 9/1 contacts will not be offers ( for 99% of the girls) but a text saying hey we saw you, we like your game, let’s talk more.. maybe schedule a campus visit or a zoom so they can tell her more about the school the coaches etc, and they will want to know you and her also.
Don’t expect to be wrapped up by the end of the week…

Of course there will be some early movement.. I doubt The Grizzly 2023 will be around very long. And some LI girls will go quick too But for 99% of you it’s gonna be a little process. It will be stressful etc but your D gets to do it once… slow it down and soak it in.

Yes. Duke coach sent out a letter to clubs stating interest today. But it will be a tough decision if their are multiple offers involved. Good luck to all the girls and hoping they all find a home they love! My question is…how fast do you need to move? Would love for my daughter to go on a few official visits before deciding.

The pace of it all is up to you! You are in charge of the process.. talk, be honest, visit, communicate. If a coach has real interest they want to get it right too.
I doubt it will be a sprint..a small group of kids will get the early offer to the big school but most won’t.. it will be a series of conversations first leading towards reaching mutual interest, then an offer and finally a verbal commitment. Visit the schools, meet the coaches, see the facility, the dorms & classrooms.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn’t realize that D1’s were allowed to personally text a 2023 student. I think colleges contacting clubs expressing interest is a positive sign but the personal text might be a violation of NCAA rules. My 2023 DD only communicates one on one at this point with d2 and d3. Hopeful for contact on Sept 1 from D1’s, but we are waiting to have our recruiting director put the effort forward with the best matches and expect to have a better idea come September.

It’s a general txt w/ a questionnaire-there is no communication so it is not a violation. My daughter (a 22) had many through out last summer from 2 specific schools that sent her a txt w/ questions to answer. Those schools contacted her at midnight on Sept 1st.

Yes My 22 had this happen too via email When she got them she reached out to her HS coach who reached out to the college coach on her behalf to get the conversation started. It worked out well. Good luck to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats Duke parent! That’s incredibly exciting.

Interest isn’t an offer… that letter while encouraging doesn’t mean your full ride is coming 9/1
Will they reach out? Probably but it’s just the beginning.. lots of conversations to follow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn’t realize that D1’s were allowed to personally text a 2023 student. I think colleges contacting clubs expressing interest is a positive sign but the personal text might be a violation of NCAA rules. My 2023 DD only communicates one on one at this point with d2 and d3. Hopeful for contact on Sept 1 from D1’s, but we are waiting to have our recruiting director put the effort forward with the best matches and expect to have a better idea come September.

It’s a general txt w/ a questionnaire-there is no communication so it is not a violation. My daughter (a 22) had many through out last summer from 2 specific schools that sent her a txt w/ questions to answer. Those schools contacted her at midnight on Sept 1st.

Yes My 22 had this happen too via email When she got them she reached out to her HS coach who reached out to the college coach on her behalf to get the conversation started. It worked out well. Good luck to you.

Ok, got it. My 23 got these but via her sports recruits account. A text sounds a lot more direct/personally directed.

We have gotten many responses from schools referring us to their camps or prospect days and recruit questionnaires. I thought this was just a formality correct? I’m not getting hopes up for these schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have gotten many responses from schools referring us to their camps or prospect days and recruit questionnaires. I thought this was just a formality correct? I’m not getting hopes up for these schools?

The schools that are asking for questionnaires to be filled out probably have real interest, make sure you have your daughter fill those out right away. As for camps, personally I would wait until after September 1. That way if you fo go you will know if the coach is really recruiting your daughter. Many schools are trying for August money grabs I see

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have gotten many responses from schools referring us to their camps or prospect days and recruit questionnaires. I thought this was just a formality correct? I’m not getting hopes up for these schools?

A lot of them are just general emails, but my daughter received direct texts (not emails) from schools asking her questions to get to know her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have gotten many responses from schools referring us to their camps or prospect days and recruit questionnaires. I thought this was just a formality correct? I’m not getting hopes up for these schools?

Yes those are just formalities. If additional questionnaires come (not just the recruit questionnaire on the team web site) then you are most likely on a list of interest.

If DI coaches are texting your daughter questions prior to September 1st, that is illegal. Questionnaires are one thing...texting to 'get to know your daughter' is not permitted prior to 9/1.

My 22 daughter was asked to fill out questionnaires prior to 9/1. Some reached out, some didn't after 9/1. Even some of the ones that reached out after 9/1 didn't wind up making an offer. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If DI coaches are texting your daughter questions prior to September 1st, that is illegal. Questionnaires are one thing...texting to 'get to know your daughter' is not permitted prior to 9/1.

100% and if sounds to good to be true it probably is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have gotten many responses from schools referring us to their camps or prospect days and recruit questionnaires. I thought this was just a formality correct? I’m not getting hopes up for these schools?

The schools that are asking for questionnaires to be filled out probably have real interest, make sure you have your daughter fill those out right away. As for camps, personally I would wait until after September 1. That way if you fo go you will know if the coach is really recruiting your daughter. Many schools are trying for August money grabs I see

My impression of the questionnaires was that it was just a standard response. Some seemed personally directed but others were very obviously auto-send. The ‘text’ seems far more of a direct contact, but maybe my kid just isn’t that much of a stud. She has received zero personal texts from D1. Holding off for camps and prospect days until after Sept 1. Those who have been through this process before obviously know more about how the process tends to play out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If DI coaches are texting your daughter questions prior to September 1st, that is illegal. Questionnaires are one thing...texting to 'get to know your daughter' is not permitted prior to 9/1.

It is not "illegal". It is a text being sent asking questions (what's your favorite hobby? What's your favorite food?). They do not respond after you reply with your answers - therefore there is no communication - therefore NOT illegal. These are top D1 schools, I think they know what they are doing, just saying!

It is absolutely illegal to send 'one off' texts to kids before Sept 1st. It has to be a legitimate questionnaire. You can text a link to one--that is fine. And, just because people are at 'Top D1 schools' doesn't mean that they don't try to work around the rules or cheat.

As we approach September 1st it is important for those who have not been through the recruiting process put things in perspective and learn to read between the lines.

The coaches will make offers to the top recruits, coaches don’t waste time dancing around with the players that they really want. They may not discuss the financial component right away but they will tell the recruit that they want them and that they have a spot. Coaches want to know that the player truly wants to go to their school, once they know that there is genuine interest they will get into the details of the offer.

If a coach is talking to a player but not offering a spot it is likely that the coach believes they may get a player that they have ranked higher on their list.

If a coach goes dark or will not talk to the player it is very likely that the coach has no interest.

The recruiting process is very fluid, and where a player is on a coaches list can change quickly.

Remember, the player is not going through the process in a vacuum, the decisions other players make can affect your daughter.

There will be several “rounds” of players committing, each time a bunch of players commit the coaches reevaluate who is left and adjust their lists.

Many coaches will hold spots until next June in order to see what college players enter the portal after the college season ends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As we approach September 1st it is important for those who have not been through the recruiting process put things in perspective and learn to read between the lines.

The coaches will make offers to the top recruits, coaches don’t waste time dancing around with the players that they really want. They may not discuss the financial component right away but they will tell the recruit that they want them and that they have a spot. Coaches want to know that the player truly wants to go to their school, once they know that there is genuine interest they will get into the details of the offer.

If a coach is talking to a player but not offering a spot it is likely that the coach believes they may get a player that they have ranked higher on their list.

If a coach goes dark or will not talk to the player it is very likely that the coach has no interest.

The recruiting process is very fluid, and where a player is on a coaches list can change quickly.

Remember, the player is not going through the process in a vacuum, the decisions other players make can affect your daughter.

There will be several “rounds” of players committing, each time a bunch of players commit the coaches reevaluate who is left and adjust their lists.

Many coaches will hold spots until next June in order to see what college players enter the portal after the college season ends.

Great information. Thank you. I believe my daughter will be getting offers from a few schools that are top on her list. She doesn’t really have a favorite (more like a few favorites) and would really like to see these schools and meet the coaches before deciding. If she visits a school and really likes it, she may want to commit, which is fine, but I wonder if she may like another school that she didn’t see better and not get the chance. I also am under the impression that if an offer is made and you don’t decide within a few days, that offer may be gone. Any advice here would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As we approach September 1st it is important for those who have not been through the recruiting process put things in perspective and learn to read between the lines.

The coaches will make offers to the top recruits, coaches don’t waste time dancing around with the players that they really want. They may not discuss the financial component right away but they will tell the recruit that they want them and that they have a spot. Coaches want to know that the player truly wants to go to their school, once they know that there is genuine interest they will get into the details of the offer.

If a coach is talking to a player but not offering a spot it is likely that the coach believes they may get a player that they have ranked higher on their list.

If a coach goes dark or will not talk to the player it is very likely that the coach has no interest.

The recruiting process is very fluid, and where a player is on a coaches list can change quickly.

Remember, the player is not going through the process in a vacuum, the decisions other players make can affect your daughter.

There will be several “rounds” of players committing, each time a bunch of players commit the coaches reevaluate who is left and adjust their lists.

Many coaches will hold spots until next June in order to see what college players enter the portal after the college season ends.

Great information. Thank you. I believe my daughter will be getting offers from a few schools that are top on her list. She doesn’t really have a favorite (more like a few favorites) and would really like to see these schools and meet the coaches before deciding. If she visits a school and really likes it, she may want to commit, which is fine, but I wonder if she may like another school that she didn’t see better and not get the chance. I also am under the impression that if an offer is made and you don’t decide within a few days, that offer may be gone. Any advice here would be appreciated.

Not all coaches put a clock on the offer but they may want to know that your daughter has true interest and that the school is one of your daughters top 2 or 3 choices. As the post above says, coaches want to know that the player really wants to go to the school. Coaches know that players have to visit multiple schools before making a decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As we approach September 1st it is important for those who have not been through the recruiting process put things in perspective and learn to read between the lines.

The coaches will make offers to the top recruits, coaches don’t waste time dancing around with the players that they really want. They may not discuss the financial component right away but they will tell the recruit that they want them and that they have a spot. Coaches want to know that the player truly wants to go to their school, once they know that there is genuine interest they will get into the details of the offer.

If a coach is talking to a player but not offering a spot it is likely that the coach believes they may get a player that they have ranked higher on their list.

If a coach goes dark or will not talk to the player it is very likely that the coach has no interest.

The recruiting process is very fluid, and where a player is on a coaches list can change quickly.

Remember, the player is not going through the process in a vacuum, the decisions other players make can affect your daughter.

There will be several “rounds” of players committing, each time a bunch of players commit the coaches reevaluate who is left and adjust their lists.

Many coaches will hold spots until next June in order to see what college players enter the portal after the college season ends.

Thank you for some great information for us parents going through this process for the first time. Appreciate your post. Nice to see BOTC being used for helpful and informative purposes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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The schools that are asking for questionnaires to be filled out probably have real interest, make sure you have your daughter fill those out right away. As for camps, personally I would wait until after September 1. That way if you fo go you will know if the coach is really recruiting your daughter. Many schools are trying for August money grabs I see

100% agree!! The reason coaches are texting questionnaires is because they equate responses and the kids who fill out the questionnaire as interested!
You need to realize that coaches recruit an ‘A’, ‘B’ and ‘C’ list or ( or tier 1, 2,3 or whatever they call it). A lot of schools have the same list of girls in their A group so once those girls verbal, the ball really starts rolling which is what happened with the 22s and they went fast.
My daughters received over 50 texts, emails, phone calls between the two of them, 2 coaches come in person to offer and were offered on calls as well on September 1. They took 4 of the 5 official visits(paid for by the school) in 3 weeks and had to walk away from offers bc a few coaches didn’t want to wait.
My advice is to take your time. If a coach really wants your kid, they will wait -well most will. Go where your child is really wanted—not only will it likely translate into a good offer but also likely into playing time as long as your child works hard and arrives in top shape ready to go!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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The schools that are asking for questionnaires to be filled out probably have real interest, make sure you have your daughter fill those out right away. As for camps, personally I would wait until after September 1. That way if you fo go you will know if the coach is really recruiting your daughter. Many schools are trying for August money grabs I see

100% agree!! The reason coaches are texting questionnaires is because they equate responses and the kids who fill out the questionnaire as interested!
You need to realize that coaches recruit an ‘A’, ‘B’ and ‘C’ list or ( or tier 1, 2,3 or whatever they call it). A lot of schools have the same list of girls in their A group so once those girls verbal, the ball really starts rolling which is what happened with the 22s and they went fast.
My daughters received over 50 texts, emails, phone calls between the two of them, 2 coaches come in person to offer and were offered on calls as well on September 1. They took 4 of the 5 official visits(paid for by the school) in 3 weeks and had to walk away from offers bc a few coaches didn’t want to wait.
My advice is to take your time. If a coach really wants your kid, they will wait -well most will. Go where your child is really wanted—not only will it likely translate into a good offer but also likely into playing time as long as your child works hard and arrives in top shape ready to go!

That’s some more really great information. Thank you so much!

What if your kid is not that player...meaning that she is a great player but doesn't have any hype. We are hearing that there is contact between coaches (club and college ) for many of her teammates but nothing for her. Starting to feel that this might not happen for her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What if your kid is not that player...meaning that she is a great player but doesn't have any hype. We are hearing that there is contact between coaches (club and college ) for many of her teammates but nothing for her. Starting to feel that this might not happen for her.

I think all you can really do is hold off until Sept 1 and see what happens. Has she reached out to coaches with film, etc?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What if your kid is not that player...meaning that she is a great player but doesn't have any hype. We are hearing that there is contact between coaches (club and college ) for many of her teammates but nothing for her. Starting to feel that this might not happen for her.

I think all you can really do is hold off until Sept 1 and see what happens. Has she reached out to coaches with film, etc?

But is what being told to you really true? One advise I received (& think is great advise) is you don’t talk about who is contacting your daughter. It’s no ones business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What if your kid is not that player...meaning that she is a great player but doesn't have any hype. We are hearing that there is contact between coaches (club and college ) for many of her teammates but nothing for her. Starting to feel that this might not happen for her.

I think all you can really do is hold off until Sept 1 and see what happens. Has she reached out to coaches with film, etc?

But is what being told to you really true? One advise I received (& think is great advise) is you don’t talk about who is contacting your daughter. It’s no ones business.

I think that it’s smart to keep quiet about where you are being recruited, but that doesn’t help PP who is hearing about all of this talk regarding club teammates. I can see how that would make you wonder. If there is already so much chatter, does that mean her kid is not in the mix?

You do need to have realistic expectations. Some kids verbal quickly-maybe they knew what school they wanted; had been to 3 camps; the coach calls 9/1 and offers...other kids may take until jan or longer! choosing the best match is worth the wait!

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What if your kid is not that player...meaning that she is a great player but doesn't have any hype. We are hearing that there is contact between coaches (club and college ) for many of her teammates but nothing for her. Starting to feel that this might not happen for her.

Relax, slow down, take a deep breath and don’t stress. This is not a sprint, we just saw 22’s committing to excellent programs/schools in the past few weeks. The top tier recruits will commit relatively quickly to top tier programs (maybe 15-20 kids from The Island) the process will take longer for the majority of kids.

Make sure “all” of the coaches (not just head coach) know that your daughter has sincere interest in the school (coaches want players who want to go to their school).

You may have to expand the list of schools if you are not getting interest.

Keep working, keep playing and keep letting coaches know of your interest, don’t be a pain in their butt but don’t stop showing interest just because the coach doesn’t express interest right away. Things change.

Work with your daughter to stay positive!!!! It’s extremely important.

Go to ncaa website for women’s lacrosse go to rankings and and click on RPI for each Division. There are a ton of great schools that offer women’s Lacrosse.

Unless you are truly a top tier recruit, you will most likely have to cast a wide net, just like the college coaches, Boston University has to cast a wider net than Boston College (they are both great schools).

Good luck, stay positive, enjoy the ride.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

My experience has been that parents who are going through this for the first time ask questions. Nothing wrong with answering them and sharing information. Never really saw many, if any parents running onto the sidelines talking about their experience without others asking questions. What I did witness many times was parents getting upset at camps when college coaches were pulling players (not their daughter) aside during and at the end of the camp to recruit the players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Being new at this and going through it for the first time, I appreciate the parents on here who are willing to share their experiences about their kids recruiting process. Very helpful information from some on here. It’s Exactly why I visit BOTC in hopes to get some useful and valuable information from people who have been and are going through this stuff. I Do realize every kids journey will be completely different. It’s interesting to hear what other people are going through.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Unfortunately, you will see how relationships change Sept 1st. Parents are going to compare your daughter to theirs & will say things that may discourage your process. I know this because I’ve been there. Best advise is to just keep your communications (specifics) to yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Unfortunately, you will see how relationships change Sept 1st. Parents are going to compare your daughter to theirs & will say things that may discourage your process. I know this because I’ve been there. Best advise is to just keep your communications (specifics) to yourselves.

Best advice is to not get discouraged and to teach your daughter the same. It’s like not being offended by what others say or do…

I do agree that you should strive to encourage and not discourage. The same goes for offending, you should do you best not to offend anyone but you should really work on not being offended.

The reality is that some people MeanyH@!€$….
Best to teach your kids how to deal with them and not let them affect you.

The recruiting process may be the first “life will punch you in the gut” experience for some of our kids.

If things don’t go as planned out of the gate don’t let your daughter get discouraged.

Don’t mean to rant but have been through the process multiple times.

Stay positive, be persistent, keep working and don’t get discouraged.

Good luck to everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Unfortunately, you will see how relationships change Sept 1st. Parents are going to compare your daughter to theirs & will say things that may discourage your process. I know this because I’ve been there. Best advise is to just keep your communications (specifics) to yourselves.

Best advice is to not get discouraged and to teach your daughter the same. It’s like not being offended by what others say or do…

I do agree that you should strive to encourage and not discourage. The same goes for offending, you should do you best not to offend anyone but you should really work on not being offended.

The reality is that some people MeanyH@!€$….
Best to teach your kids how to deal with them and not let them affect you.

The recruiting process may be the first “life will punch you in the gut” experience for some of our kids.

If things don’t go as planned out of the gate don’t let your daughter get discouraged.

Don’t mean to rant but have been through the process multiple times.

Stay positive, be persistent, keep working and don’t get discouraged.

Good luck to everyone.

Totally agree - only share specific info if it will be helpful to someone else. Otherwise best to keep the details to yourself. Everyone will be working through their own process. Every kid is different and although everyone thinks they know where they stand in comparison to their teammates, recruiting can completely change everything and really mess with the player’s and parent’s perception. Everyone just needs to be true to themselves and find the match that best suits ALL the things they are looking for in a college - academics, size, location, coach, team culture, etc… Lots of very important things to consider. If your daughter stays true to who they are and what they are looking for, they should find their perfect match. For anyone who has had a child go through Greek recruitment at a southern university, recruitment is very similar but times 100!! Not for the weary!

If your daughter has been told she is a tier one recruit, is it still important to go to a last minute camp at a school like Duke? I feel like if she has already proven herself it shouldn’t matter, and could possibly harm. Thoughts?

Totally agree - only share specific info if it will be helpful to someone else. Otherwise best to keep the details to yourself. Everyone will be working through their own process. Every kid is different and although everyone thinks they know where they stand in comparison to their teammates, recruiting can completely change everything and really mess with the player’s and parent’s perception. Everyone just needs to be true to themselves and find the match that best suits ALL the things they are looking for in a college - academics, size, location, coach, team culture, etc… Lots of very important things to consider. If your daughter stays true to who they are and what they are looking for, they should find their perfect match. For anyone who has had a child go through Greek recruitment at a southern university, recruitment is very similar but times 100!! Not for the weary![/quote]

What a great analogy - the Greek Life at Southern schools! I say take the Southern Gentility a bit farther and keep all but pertinent info to yourselves. We've had convos about coaches who only take middies and turn them into defense or attack. That talk is fine.

Speaking of coaches and what they like- does anyone have any insights on any schools or coaches? Not to name names, but to lessen the pain when you don't get the school you want? For instance my neighbor said he didn't push his daughter onto certain schools because she wasn't the right height for that school. Anyone else have any insightful stories? I don't want my daughter to go barking up the wrong tree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daughter has been told she is a tier one recruit, is it still important to go to a last minute camp at a school like Duke? I feel like if she has already proven herself it shouldn’t matter, and could possibly harm. Thoughts?

Who told your daughter that she is a tier one recruit? Have the Duke Coaches expressed interest in your daughter? Does your daughter want to go to Duke?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree - only share specific info if it will be helpful to someone else. Otherwise best to keep the details to yourself. Everyone will be working through their own process. Every kid is different and although everyone thinks they know where they stand in comparison to their teammates, recruiting can completely change everything and really mess with the player’s and parent’s perception. Everyone just needs to be true to themselves and find the match that best suits ALL the things they are looking for in a college - academics, size, location, coach, team culture, etc… Lots of very important things to consider. If your daughter stays true to who they are and what they are looking for, they should find their perfect match. For anyone who has had a child go through Greek recruitment at a southern university, recruitment is very similar but times 100!! Not for the weary!

What a great analogy - the Greek Life at Southern schools! I say take the Southern Gentility a bit farther and keep all but pertinent info to yourselves. We've had convos about coaches who only take middies and turn them into defense or attack. That talk is fine.

Speaking of coaches and what they like- does anyone have any insights on any schools or coaches? Not to name names, but to lessen the pain when you don't get the school you want? For instance my neighbor said he didn't push his daughter onto certain schools because she wasn't the right height for that school. Anyone else have any insightful stories? I don't want my daughter to go barking up the wrong tree.[/quote]

You know your daughters style of play. If you watched the college games this past spring you could probably see what school plays her type of game and what type of player they like. Its important to be realistic on your daughters ability and can she play at a certain level. There is a spot for everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree - only share specific info if it will be helpful to someone else. Otherwise best to keep the details to yourself. Everyone will be working through their own process. Every kid is different and although everyone thinks they know where they stand in comparison to their teammates, recruiting can completely change everything and really mess with the player’s and parent’s perception. Everyone just needs to be true to themselves and find the match that best suits ALL the things they are looking for in a college - academics, size, location, coach, team culture, etc… Lots of very important things to consider. If your daughter stays true to who they are and what they are looking for, they should find their perfect match. For anyone who has had a child go through Greek recruitment at a southern university, recruitment is very similar but times 100!! Not for the weary!

What a great analogy - the Greek Life at Southern schools! I say take the Southern Gentility a bit farther and keep all but pertinent info to yourselves. We've had convos about coaches who only take middies and turn them into defense or attack. That talk is fine.

Speaking of coaches and what they like- does anyone have any insights on any schools or coaches? Not to name names, but to lessen the pain when you don't get the school you want? For instance my neighbor said he didn't push his daughter onto certain schools because she wasn't the right height for that school. Anyone else have any insightful stories? I don't want my daughter to go barking up the wrong tree.

You know your daughters style of play. If you watched the college games this past spring you could probably see what school plays her type of game and what type of player they like. Its important to be realistic on your daughters ability and can she play at a certain level. There is a spot for everyone.[/quote]

I agree! Interestingly I feel my daughter is probably a good fit to schools we just can't afford. How do you get past that? So exciting to be offered a school, but what if you can't afford it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree - only share specific info if it will be helpful to someone else. Otherwise best to keep the details to yourself. Everyone will be working through their own process. Every kid is different and although everyone thinks they know where they stand in comparison to their teammates, recruiting can completely change everything and really mess with the player’s and parent’s perception. Everyone just needs to be true to themselves and find the match that best suits ALL the things they are looking for in a college - academics, size, location, coach, team culture, etc… Lots of very important things to consider. If your daughter stays true to who they are and what they are looking for, they should find their perfect match. For anyone who has had a child go through Greek recruitment at a southern university, recruitment is very similar but times 100!! Not for the weary!

What a great analogy - the Greek Life at Southern schools! I say take the Southern Gentility a bit farther and keep all but pertinent info to yourselves. We've had convos about coaches who only take middies and turn them into defense or attack. That talk is fine.

Speaking of coaches and what they like- does anyone have any insights on any schools or coaches? Not to name names, but to lessen the pain when you don't get the school you want? For instance my neighbor said he didn't push his daughter onto certain schools because she wasn't the right height for that school. Anyone else have any insightful stories? I don't want my daughter to go barking up the wrong tree.[/quote]

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Not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic .... In any event, many parents make up all kinds of things about coaches / programs / schools and why their daughter was not offered a spot. It will never be that the coaches didn't think their daughter was as good as the players that the coach offered spots to. No, it's always some crazy excuse, i.e. "they only like tall players", "they already took a girl from her High School", "her club director didn't help", "they took a girl who's dad is connected", "her HS coach blew it", "it's very political", "they took the other player because they have money" etc....

The reality is that coaches know what they are looking for and they know what they like. The Top 10 - 20 Programs are able to be much more selective when it comes to making offers, these schools are a diverse group and the top recruits can usually find a good fit at one of the top programs. For the most part the top programs get the top recruits year after year. When a player does not receive offers from the top programs (or the school that their daughter wants to go to) the parents (the ones that are delusional) make up excuses as to why their daughter was not offered a spot. It is very rare for a top tier player to not receive any offers from any of the top 10 -15 programs.

The recruiting process can be tough for everyone but it is especially tough for those parents with an overinflated view of their daughters ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree - only share specific info if it will be helpful to someone else. Otherwise best to keep the details to yourself. Everyone will be working through their own process. Every kid is different and although everyone thinks they know where they stand in comparison to their teammates, recruiting can completely change everything and really mess with the player’s and parent’s perception. Everyone just needs to be true to themselves and find the match that best suits ALL the things they are looking for in a college - academics, size, location, coach, team culture, etc… Lots of very important things to consider. If your daughter stays true to who they are and what they are looking for, they should find their perfect match. For anyone who has had a child go through Greek recruitment at a southern university, recruitment is very similar but times 100!! Not for the weary!

What a great analogy - the Greek Life at Southern schools! I say take the Southern Gentility a bit farther and keep all but pertinent info to yourselves. We've had convos about coaches who only take middies and turn them into defense or attack. That talk is fine.

Speaking of coaches and what they like- does anyone have any insights on any schools or coaches? Not to name names, but to lessen the pain when you don't get the school you want? For instance my neighbor said he didn't push his daughter onto certain schools because she wasn't the right height for that school. Anyone else have any insightful stories? I don't want my daughter to go barking up the wrong tree.[/quote]

“push his daughter onto certain schools” … don’t listen to anything that your neighbor says, he is a fool.

Have your daughter continue to play, have your daughter email all of the coaches at the schools that she is interested in (make the list larger than you think) , ask both your club director and your HS coach to reach out to the schools on her list, ask anyone else who knows the coaches on her list to reach out to the coaches. Make sure to talk with any coaches who do reach out even if your daughter does not think she would like to attend the school. Continue to express interest in schools even if the interest is not mutual because things can and do change.

BTW, I’m still laughing at the “not the right height” comment.

To clarify, when I say “ask anyone else who knows the coaches on her list to reach out” make sure you ask them to just ask the coach to take a look at her…. You do not want someone who is overbearing, your just trying to have the coaches watch her play.

The coaches watch kids play and they do their own evaluation and make their own decisions, nobody pushes any players on coaches especially on coaches at the stronger programs.

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

It all depends on the player and the coaches... Just remember that it is not a sprint. For most players it will be a process. Coaches have their lists and they will try to nail down the players that they have ranked highest but remember that No Coach gets all of their top recruits. If a coach is bringing in 9 recruits it is not likely that they will get 1 - 9 on their list. Every time a player at the top of a coaches list commits to another school the coach has to adjust their list and bump a player up. Make sure the the coaches on your daughters list know that your daughter has genuine interest in the program and the school. When coaches are looking at multiple players of similar ability, the coach will most likely offer a spot to the player who really wants to go to the school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

It all depends on the player and the coaches... Just remember that it is not a sprint. For most players it will be a process. Coaches have their lists and they will try to nail down the players that they have ranked highest but remember that No Coach gets all of their top recruits. If a coach is bringing in 9 recruits it is not likely that they will get 1 - 9 on their list. Every time a player at the top of a coaches list commits to another school the coach has to adjust their list and bump a player up. Make sure the the coaches on your daughters list know that your daughter has genuine interest in the program and the school. When coaches are looking at multiple players of similar ability, the coach will most likely offer a spot to the player who really wants to go to the school.

Completely agree with the comments above. Also keep in mind that there is a huge transfer portal now too. And not everyone in the portal is transferring for just their 5th grad year. Many undergrads in there looking for different schools and playing opportunities for 2-3 more years. Many coaches will prefer to take a proven college transfer player vs an unproven HS recruit. Less roster spots available overall and coaches taking longer than ever to pull the trigger. Reason you are still seeing many 22 commitments occurring. I wouldn’t be disappointed if it is fairly quiet on Sept 1st. It’s only day 1 and just know that it is a fairly long process if done correctly. Both sides need to be sure it’s a good fit. The transfer portal is full of undergrads who rushed to decide to eventually realize the college and/or team was not the right fit.

Also keep in mind that larger D1 rosters mean less playing time. Your daughter may want to consider a different division too where she will actually be able to play and contribute more. Lots of pre-Covid D1 recruits won’t see the field in post-Covid D1 until their senior year. Instead they could be a superstar on a D2/D3 roster with 4 years of playing time. A lot more fun to actually play. Too many older players on the roster ahead of them now. Look at the University of Maryland’s roster now as an example. So many transfers in just the past couple of weeks. I would detest to be a 21 or 22 recruit at Maryland. Unless you are considered an immediate impact player and year 1 starter, they will have to wait so much longer to actually see the field. And we all know Maryland never subs so these girls will truly never see the field in a game at all until possibly year 3-4 and some will never take the field in college. They will always be part of the practice squad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

It all depends on the player and the coaches... Just remember that it is not a sprint. For most players it will be a process. Coaches have their lists and they will try to nail down the players that they have ranked highest but remember that No Coach gets all of their top recruits. If a coach is bringing in 9 recruits it is not likely that they will get 1 - 9 on their list. Every time a player at the top of a coaches list commits to another school the coach has to adjust their list and bump a player up. Make sure the the coaches on your daughters list know that your daughter has genuine interest in the program and the school. When coaches are looking at multiple players of similar ability, the coach will most likely offer a spot to the player who really wants to go to the school.

Completely agree with the comments above. Also keep in mind that there is a huge transfer portal now too. And not everyone in the portal is transferring for just their 5th grad year. Many undergrads in there looking for different schools and playing opportunities for 2-3 more years. Many coaches will prefer to take a proven college transfer player vs an unproven HS recruit. Less roster spots available overall and coaches taking longer than ever to pull the trigger. Reason you are still seeing many 22 commitments occurring. I wouldn’t be disappointed if it is fairly quiet on Sept 1st. It’s only day 1 and just know that it is a fairly long process if done correctly. Both sides need to be sure it’s a good fit. The transfer portal is full of undergrads who rushed to decide to eventually realize the college and/or team was not the right fit.

Also keep in mind that larger D1 rosters mean less playing time. Your daughter may want to consider a different division too where she will actually be able to play and contribute more. Lots of pre-Covid D1 recruits won’t see the field in post-Covid D1 until their senior year. Instead they could be a superstar on a D2/D3 roster with 4 years of playing time. A lot more fun to actually play. Too many older players on the roster ahead of them now. Look at the University of Maryland’s roster now as an example. So many transfers in just the past couple of weeks. I would detest to be a 21 or 22 recruit at Maryland. Unless you are considered an immediate impact player and year 1 starter, they will have to wait so much longer to actually see the field. And we all know Maryland never subs so these girls will truly never see the field in a game at all until possibly year 3-4 and some will never take the field in college. They will always be part of the practice squad.

Obviously you have an issue with Maryland. Many students, not just athletes transfer from many schools for a variety of reasons all of the time. To say that going DII or DIII will guarantee that a player will see playing time all four years and or be a superstar is not the best advise, you have no idea if a player will play or be a superstar. Many players do not get much playing time at the DII and DIII level no guarantee anywhere. Sure, if a player is offered a spot at a place like Maryland there is a very good chance that the player would start and be a superstar at the DII or DIII level. However, many people choose the school for a combination of Academics, Athletics, Social Life and overall college experience, playing time is just a part of the equation. Look to find the best fit, look for schools that your daughter would be happy at if she was not playing lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daughter has been told she is a tier one recruit, is it still important to go to a last minute camp at a school like Duke? I feel like if she has already proven herself it shouldn’t matter, and could possibly harm. Thoughts?

Who told your daughter that she is a tier one recruit? Have the Duke Coaches expressed interest in your daughter? Does your daughter want to go to Duke?

Yes, Duke coaches do communicate with club directors to indicate degree of interest. As do several other schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daughter has been told she is a tier one recruit, is it still important to go to a last minute camp at a school like Duke? I feel like if she has already proven herself it shouldn’t matter, and could possibly harm. Thoughts?

Who told your daughter that she is a tier one recruit? Have the Duke Coaches expressed interest in your daughter? Does your daughter want to go to Duke?

Yes, Duke coaches do communicate with club directors to indicate degree of interest. As do several other schools.

Thanks for the input but not really relevant and did not answer any of the 3 questions. I will assume that you are not the original poster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

There may be some girls (top recruits) that get an offer instantly. The coaches that want you are going to reach out Sept 1st at midnight. Then it's a matter of having actual conversations with them. They could give you an offer anytime or may not give an offer at all (unfortunately). You also have to realize that your daughter may be on a schools 2nd round list (meaning, once that school goes through their main list and did not get all the recruits they wanted, they will move on to their second list). This 2nd round could come months later from the initial Sept.1st.. If there is a school that she was interested in, her coach can reach out to that school and see if she's even on their radar. Everyone's process and time-line is going to be so different. Some quick and some will take a lot of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

It all depends on the player and the coaches... Just remember that it is not a sprint. For most players it will be a process. Coaches have their lists and they will try to nail down the players that they have ranked highest but remember that No Coach gets all of their top recruits. If a coach is bringing in 9 recruits it is not likely that they will get 1 - 9 on their list. Every time a player at the top of a coaches list commits to another school the coach has to adjust their list and bump a player up. Make sure the the coaches on your daughters list know that your daughter has genuine interest in the program and the school. When coaches are looking at multiple players of similar ability, the coach will most likely offer a spot to the player who really wants to go to the school.

Completely agree with the comments above. Also keep in mind that there is a huge transfer portal now too. And not everyone in the portal is transferring for just their 5th grad year. Many undergrads in there looking for different schools and playing opportunities for 2-3 more years. Many coaches will prefer to take a proven college transfer player vs an unproven HS recruit. Less roster spots available overall and coaches taking longer than ever to pull the trigger. Reason you are still seeing many 22 commitments occurring. I wouldn’t be disappointed if it is fairly quiet on Sept 1st. It’s only day 1 and just know that it is a fairly long process if done correctly. Both sides need to be sure it’s a good fit. The transfer portal is full of undergrads who rushed to decide to eventually realize the college and/or team was not the right fit.

Also keep in mind that larger D1 rosters mean less playing time. Your daughter may want to consider a different division too where she will actually be able to play and contribute more. Lots of pre-Covid D1 recruits won’t see the field in post-Covid D1 until their senior year. Instead they could be a superstar on a D2/D3 roster with 4 years of playing time. A lot more fun to actually play. Too many older players on the roster ahead of them now. Look at the University of Maryland’s roster now as an example. So many transfers in just the past couple of weeks. I would detest to be a 21 or 22 recruit at Maryland. Unless you are considered an immediate impact player and year 1 starter, they will have to wait so much longer to actually see the field. And we all know Maryland never subs so these girls will truly never see the field in a game at all until possibly year 3-4 and some will never take the field in college. They will always be part of the practice squad.

Regarding Sept 1 - Just look at all of the '22s that were recently committed to some big Div 1 schools like Penn St and MD The big schools are using the transfer portal now more than ever to wait and see who they can get. Then they will make decisions on these 22's.
Can you imagine waiting this long (as a 22) before getting picked up by Penn St?
I bet the first obvious 23's will get picked up right away, 10-20 at the most (didnt want to say just 10) The rest may have to wait until next summer! Dont fret- This gives your girl the ability to have a BO year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daughter has been told she is a tier one recruit, is it still important to go to a last minute camp at a school like Duke? I feel like if she has already proven herself it shouldn’t matter, and could possibly harm. Thoughts?

Who told your daughter that she is a tier one recruit? Have the Duke Coaches expressed interest in your daughter? Does your daughter want to go to Duke?

Yes, Duke coaches do communicate with club directors to indicate degree of interest. As do several other schools.

Thanks for the input but not really relevant and did not answer any of the 3 questions. I will assume that you are not the original poster.

This is great opportunity to not take things for granted.
Its best to attend the camp!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

It all depends on the player and the coaches... Just remember that it is not a sprint. For most players it will be a process. Coaches have their lists and they will try to nail down the players that they have ranked highest but remember that No Coach gets all of their top recruits. If a coach is bringing in 9 recruits it is not likely that they will get 1 - 9 on their list. Every time a player at the top of a coaches list commits to another school the coach has to adjust their list and bump a player up. Make sure the the coaches on your daughters list know that your daughter has genuine interest in the program and the school. When coaches are looking at multiple players of similar ability, the coach will most likely offer a spot to the player who really wants to go to the school.

Completely agree with the comments above. Also keep in mind that there is a huge transfer portal now too. And not everyone in the portal is transferring for just their 5th grad year. Many undergrads in there looking for different schools and playing opportunities for 2-3 more years. Many coaches will prefer to take a proven college transfer player vs an unproven HS recruit. Less roster spots available overall and coaches taking longer than ever to pull the trigger. Reason you are still seeing many 22 commitments occurring. I wouldn’t be disappointed if it is fairly quiet on Sept 1st. It’s only day 1 and just know that it is a fairly long process if done correctly. Both sides need to be sure it’s a good fit. The transfer portal is full of undergrads who rushed to decide to eventually realize the college and/or team was not the right fit.

Also keep in mind that larger D1 rosters mean less playing time. Your daughter may want to consider a different division too where she will actually be able to play and contribute more. Lots of pre-Covid D1 recruits won’t see the field in post-Covid D1 until their senior year. Instead they could be a superstar on a D2/D3 roster with 4 years of playing time. A lot more fun to actually play. Too many older players on the roster ahead of them now. Look at the University of Maryland’s roster now as an example. So many transfers in just the past couple of weeks. I would detest to be a 21 or 22 recruit at Maryland. Unless you are considered an immediate impact player and year 1 starter, they will have to wait so much longer to actually see the field. And we all know Maryland never subs so these girls will truly never see the field in a game at all until possibly year 3-4 and some will never take the field in college. They will always be part of the practice squad.

Obviously you have an issue with Maryland. Many students, not just athletes transfer from many schools for a variety of reasons all of the time. To say that going DII or DIII will guarantee that a player will see playing time all four years and or be a superstar is not the best advise, you have no idea if a player will play or be a superstar. Many players do not get much playing time at the DII and DIII level no guarantee anywhere. Sure, if a player is offered a spot at a place like Maryland there is a very good chance that the player would start and be a superstar at the DII or DIII level. However, many people choose the school for a combination of Academics, Athletics, Social Life and overall college experience, playing time is just a part of the equation. Look to find the best fit, look for schools that your daughter would be happy at if she was not playing lacrosse.

Actually I have ZERO issues with Maryland. I am actually an alumnus and it was never a school on my daughter’s list. She wanted to go OOS. Maryland is too close. However, I have seen MD’s recent IG posts announcing their incoming transfers and know some girls who have played at UM in recent years and know CR’s coaching style. She doesn’t sub often. That is a well known fact. There are many HS superstar recruits over the years who have never seen the field in college. EVER. If these girls were good enough to be recruited by Maryland, they are good enough to be recruited by most teams. Obviously different coaches look for different things but a player who is the caliber of a UM recruit could probably play at any school. And as a UM alumni myself, it’s safe to say that there are many academic equivalent options as well - including reputation, school size, town size, academic offerings, etc. I’m just making the point that a 2023 recruit should not limit themselves to a specific school or division. The bigger and broader their list, the better chances of landing a school they will be happy with long term. I said there were MANY important factors to consider when choosing a college not just playing time. Bottom line is don’t just choose because of a player or parent ego. Choose the best overall school for you - including potential playing time. I’m guessing most girls would actually like to play in games in college vs just being part of the practice squad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

It all depends on the player and the coaches... Just remember that it is not a sprint. For most players it will be a process. Coaches have their lists and they will try to nail down the players that they have ranked highest but remember that No Coach gets all of their top recruits. If a coach is bringing in 9 recruits it is not likely that they will get 1 - 9 on their list. Every time a player at the top of a coaches list commits to another school the coach has to adjust their list and bump a player up. Make sure the the coaches on your daughters list know that your daughter has genuine interest in the program and the school. When coaches are looking at multiple players of similar ability, the coach will most likely offer a spot to the player who really wants to go to the school.

Completely agree with the comments above. Also keep in mind that there is a huge transfer portal now too. And not everyone in the portal is transferring for just their 5th grad year. Many undergrads in there looking for different schools and playing opportunities for 2-3 more years. Many coaches will prefer to take a proven college transfer player vs an unproven HS recruit. Less roster spots available overall and coaches taking longer than ever to pull the trigger. Reason you are still seeing many 22 commitments occurring. I wouldn’t be disappointed if it is fairly quiet on Sept 1st. It’s only day 1 and just know that it is a fairly long process if done correctly. Both sides need to be sure it’s a good fit. The transfer portal is full of undergrads who rushed to decide to eventually realize the college and/or team was not the right fit.

Also keep in mind that larger D1 rosters mean less playing time. Your daughter may want to consider a different division too where she will actually be able to play and contribute more. Lots of pre-Covid D1 recruits won’t see the field in post-Covid D1 until their senior year. Instead they could be a superstar on a D2/D3 roster with 4 years of playing time. A lot more fun to actually play. Too many older players on the roster ahead of them now. Look at the University of Maryland’s roster now as an example. So many transfers in just the past couple of weeks. I would detest to be a 21 or 22 recruit at Maryland. Unless you are considered an immediate impact player and year 1 starter, they will have to wait so much longer to actually see the field. And we all know Maryland never subs so these girls will truly never see the field in a game at all until possibly year 3-4 and some will never take the field in college. They will always be part of the practice squad.

Obviously you have an issue with Maryland. Many students, not just athletes transfer from many schools for a variety of reasons all of the time. To say that going DII or DIII will guarantee that a player will see playing time all four years and or be a superstar is not the best advise, you have no idea if a player will play or be a superstar. Many players do not get much playing time at the DII and DIII level no guarantee anywhere. Sure, if a player is offered a spot at a place like Maryland there is a very good chance that the player would start and be a superstar at the DII or DIII level. However, many people choose the school for a combination of Academics, Athletics, Social Life and overall college experience, playing time is just a part of the equation. Look to find the best fit, look for schools that your daughter would be happy at if she was not playing lacrosse.

Actually I have ZERO issues with Maryland. I am actually an alumnus and it was never a school on my daughter’s list. She wanted to go OOS. Maryland is too close. However, I have seen MD’s recent IG posts announcing their incoming transfers and know some girls who have played at UM in recent years and know CR’s coaching style. She doesn’t sub often. That is a well known fact. There are many HS superstar recruits over the years who have never seen the field in college. EVER. If these girls were good enough to be recruited by Maryland, they are good enough to be recruited by most teams. Obviously different coaches look for different things but a player who is the caliber of a UM recruit could probably play at any school. And as a UM alumni myself, it’s safe to say that there are many academic equivalent options as well - including reputation, school size, town size, academic offerings, etc. I’m just making the point that a 2023 recruit should not limit themselves to a specific school or division. The bigger and broader their list, the better chances of landing a school they will be happy with long term. I said there were MANY important factors to consider when choosing a college not just playing time. Bottom line is don’t just choose because of a player or parent ego. Choose the best overall school for you - including potential playing time. I’m guessing most girls would actually like to play in games in college vs just being part of the practice squad.

If only the girls who get regular playing time stay at a school coaches couldn’t even hold a practice. Players ride the bench at every school.

Do you think showcases are worth it? If so, which ones?

The last one we went to in June was a disappointment in the sense that there weren’t many coaches there and those that were there weren’t really focused on the games/girls. ( some of the players they picked for the “championship” games were questionable. )

are players really noticed at these events?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daughter has been told she is a tier one recruit, is it still important to go to a last minute camp at a school like Duke? I feel like if she has already proven herself it shouldn’t matter, and could possibly harm. Thoughts?

Who told your daughter that she is a tier one recruit? Have the Duke Coaches expressed interest in your daughter? Does your daughter want to go to Duke?

Yes, Duke coaches do communicate with club directors to indicate degree of interest. As do several other schools.

Thanks for the input but not really relevant and did not answer any of the 3 questions. I will assume that you are not the original poster.

This is great opportunity to not take things for granted.
Its best to attend the camp!

Not a big fan of the camps, not always a good representation of girls true ability, especially if they get stuck in a group with selfish players. I know some schools like Duke and Virginia and some Ivies do a lot of recruiting from the camps, but I think that’s more to identify girls their interested in. If your daughter plays on any of the top LI programs like YJ,TG, Legacy or Jesters, the coaches will most likely want to watch your daughter play against other top competition in the tournaments before deciding to recruit. Not sure if attending a camp in late August is going to really change the decisions that coaches have already made about who they plan on recruiting. If a girl has done well all summer and is identified as a recruit, and shows up at a camp and doesn’t perform well, I think it could possibly hurt.

These conversations all revolve around the elite kids of which there may be 30-50 in any given class, the vast majority will not have the same experience. For those of you that this may help I will give you our experience. My daughter was considered a mid to low D1 recruit. Got a call at midnight on 9/1 and several emails. The midnight call was in our wheelhouse, great academics with a great price. We were on campus within two weeks but they were still evaluating and wanted to wait to the fall. Followed up with emails to the others with varying degrees of communication. Day before fall tourneys my daughter comes down with Mono, she was back in two weeks. She wasn't the same for the entire fall tourney season. First school communicated that they were not making an offer as we were packing for the IWCLA tourney (gut punch) Did a visit at another D1 school in the winter and they were willing to make an offer if my daughter was interested, she was not. She chose a top D2 school that was a fit for her. Lessons we learned; can you handle losing for 4 years, how much you put into is how much you get out of it, coaches recruiting is not very sophisticated, film is vital, don't underestimate smaller less attended showcases (the chance to standout goes along way) defenders are the hardest position to get recruited, never know what tomorrow brings (mono), you cant get to all schools and camps don't try, you will probably windup at a school you didn't expect and most important of all don't let it consume you- its a marathon not a race. PS I didn't learn the last one until it was over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These conversations all revolve around the elite kids of which there may be 30-50 in any given class, the vast majority will not have the same experience. For those of you that this may help I will give you our experience. My daughter was considered a mid to low D1 recruit. Got a call at midnight on 9/1 and several emails. The midnight call was in our wheelhouse, great academics with a great price. We were on campus within two weeks but they were still evaluating and wanted to wait to the fall. Followed up with emails to the others with varying degrees of communication. Day before fall tourneys my daughter comes down with Mono, she was back in two weeks. She wasn't the same for the entire fall tourney season. First school communicated that they were not making an offer as we were packing for the IWCLA tourney (gut punch) Did a visit at another D1 school in the winter and they were willing to make an offer if my daughter was interested, she was not. She chose a top D2 school that was a fit for her. Lessons we learned; can you handle losing for 4 years, how much you put into is how much you get out of it, coaches recruiting is not very sophisticated, film is vital, don't underestimate smaller less attended showcases (the chance to standout goes along way) defenders are the hardest position to get recruited, never know what tomorrow brings (mono), you cant get to all schools and camps don't try, you will probably windup at a school you didn't expect and most important of all don't let it consume you- its a marathon not a race. PS I didn't learn the last one until it was over.

All good points and should be helpful. However, All of these conversations are not revolving around the eliteplayers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These conversations all revolve around the elite kids of which there may be 30-50 in any given class, the vast majority will not have the same experience. For those of you that this may help I will give you our experience. My daughter was considered a mid to low D1 recruit. Got a call at midnight on 9/1 and several emails. The midnight call was in our wheelhouse, great academics with a great price. We were on campus within two weeks but they were still evaluating and wanted to wait to the fall. Followed up with emails to the others with varying degrees of communication. Day before fall tourneys my daughter comes down with Mono, she was back in two weeks. She wasn't the same for the entire fall tourney season. First school communicated that they were not making an offer as we were packing for the IWCLA tourney (gut punch) Did a visit at another D1 school in the winter and they were willing to make an offer if my daughter was interested, she was not. She chose a top D2 school that was a fit for her. Lessons we learned; can you handle losing for 4 years, how much you put into is how much you get out of it, coaches recruiting is not very sophisticated, film is vital, don't underestimate smaller less attended showcases (the chance to standout goes along way) defenders are the hardest position to get recruited, never know what tomorrow brings (mono), you cant get to all schools and camps don't try, you will probably windup at a school you didn't expect and most important of all don't let it consume you- its a marathon not a race. PS I didn't learn the last one until it was over.

All good points and should be helpful. However, All of these conversations are not revolving around the eliteplayers.

Not sure I understand that. are we only here to help the "elite" There are plenty of players of D1 Caliber that can use advice?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These conversations all revolve around the elite kids of which there may be 30-50 in any given class, the vast majority will not have the same experience. For those of you that this may help I will give you our experience. My daughter was considered a mid to low D1 recruit. Got a call at midnight on 9/1 and several emails. The midnight call was in our wheelhouse, great academics with a great price. We were on campus within two weeks but they were still evaluating and wanted to wait to the fall. Followed up with emails to the others with varying degrees of communication. Day before fall tourneys my daughter comes down with Mono, she was back in two weeks. She wasn't the same for the entire fall tourney season. First school communicated that they were not making an offer as we were packing for the IWCLA tourney (gut punch) Did a visit at another D1 school in the winter and they were willing to make an offer if my daughter was interested, she was not. She chose a top D2 school that was a fit for her. Lessons we learned; can you handle losing for 4 years, how much you put into is how much you get out of it, coaches recruiting is not very sophisticated, film is vital, don't underestimate smaller less attended showcases (the chance to standout goes along way) defenders are the hardest position to get recruited, never know what tomorrow brings (mono), you cant get to all schools and camps don't try, you will probably windup at a school you didn't expect and most important of all don't let it consume you- its a marathon not a race. PS I didn't learn the last one until it was over.

All good points and should be helpful. However, All of these conversations are not revolving around the eliteplayers.

Not sure I understand that. are we only here to help the "elite" There are plenty of players of D1 Caliber that can use advice?

The first post stated: “These conversations all revolve around the elite kids” which they do not. The second post simply pointed out that all of these conversations have not been revolving around only the elite kids.

Question re: D1 recruiting. DD getting invites now for prospect days in September. These are very small (say, capped at 30 players) and I would never be able to find them on my own, emails are coming directly from the coaches and not automatic responses. Money grabs or legit opportunities?

Yet, D2 school that is actively recruiting her already has her down for a prospect day weekend and no mention of the $100 or whatever these things tend to cost.

I realize it’s a drop in the bucket in lacrosse dollars but at this point, I’m not interested in forking over $100 for a prospect day when she could just be invited for a visit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question re: D1 recruiting. DD getting invites now for prospect days in September. These are very small (say, capped at 30 players) and I would never be able to find them on my own, emails are coming directly from the coaches and not automatic responses. Money grabs or legit opportunities?

Yet, D2 school that is actively recruiting her already has her down for a prospect day weekend and no mention of the $100 or whatever these things tend to cost.

I realize it’s a drop in the bucket in lacrosse dollars but at this point, I’m not interested in forking over $100 for a prospect day when she could just be invited for a visit.

Wish it was only $100. The one’s my daughter is interested in are $300+ for one day!! And that’s not including travel expenses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question re: D1 recruiting. DD getting invites now for prospect days in September. These are very small (say, capped at 30 players) and I would never be able to find them on my own, emails are coming directly from the coaches and not automatic responses. Money grabs or legit opportunities?

Yet, D2 school that is actively recruiting her already has her down for a prospect day weekend and no mention of the $100 or whatever these things tend to cost.

I realize it’s a drop in the bucket in lacrosse dollars but at this point, I’m not interested in forking over $100 for a prospect day when she could just be invited for a visit.

Based on my experience, the DI invites are legit, they are going to players who the coaches at that school want to see. I would ask club director to contact the coach in order to validate the schools interest.

Not familiar with the DII.

If your daughter is truly interested in attending the school I would send her. If she is one of the schools top recruits it is probably not as important to go but if she is one of the many players that the school is looking at but not yet ready to make an offer you might want to give it serious consideration.

Prospect days are not invite-only and are open to everyone. I am not saying they are not beneficial if it is her dream school. From our experience with my older daughter, no coach where she was a true Tier 1 recruit asked her to come to a prospect day. The schools that had a very strong interest in her invited her to campus for a visit to see the facilities, attend class with an underclass teammate with a similar major, had lunch with some of the team, and then watched practice and ended with a meeting with the coach. There were usually one to two other girls. These were unofficial visits. My daughter was not a top 20 recruit, more mid-range 20-50. This was pre-Covid so I am not sure what the rules will be for on-campus visits this fall. I would recommend waiting to see who reaches out on September 1st and make your plan from there. If a coach really wants your daughter at a prospect day they will make room for her. Also, every school does it differently but that was our experience. Don't put all of your eggs in the basket of the schools that have reached out to your club director prior to Sept 1st, they express interest in many players. They have to, as they need to have an idea of where girls stand when making their lists as this is a numbers game and the lists are constantly changing. Your daughter will most likely hear from some schools she did not know had an interest. Keep all of your options open, kids think they know what they want but a lot can change once they get on the campus and meet the team and coach. They will know what is the right fit. I have another year before I go through this again with daughter #2 but it is interesting to see how different the process is for each class and the extra year of eligibility has added a new twist. Goof luck to your daughter!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Prospect days are not invite-only and are open to everyone. I am not saying they are not beneficial if it is her dream school. From our experience with my older daughter, no coach where she was a true Tier 1 recruit asked her to come to a prospect day. The schools that had a very strong interest in her invited her to campus for a visit to see the facilities, attend class with an underclass teammate with a similar major, had lunch with some of the team, and then watched practice and ended with a meeting with the coach. There were usually one to two other girls. These were unofficial visits. My daughter was not a top 20 recruit, more mid-range 20-50. This was pre-Covid so I am not sure what the rules will be for on-campus visits this fall. I would recommend waiting to see who reaches out on September 1st and make your plan from there. If a coach really wants your daughter at a prospect day they will make room for her. Also, every school does it differently but that was our experience. Don't put all of your eggs in the basket of the schools that have reached out to your club director prior to Sept 1st, they express interest in many players. They have to, as they need to have an idea of where girls stand when making their lists as this is a numbers game and the lists are constantly changing. Your daughter will most likely hear from some schools she did not know had an interest. Keep all of your options open, kids think they know what they want but a lot can change once they get on the campus and meet the team and coach. They will know what is the right fit. I have another year before I go through this again with daughter #2 but it is interesting to see how different the process is for each class and the extra year of eligibility has added a new twist. Goof luck to your daughter!

Unless things have changed, some schools absolutely have "prospect days" with very limited spots. The recruits that the coaches are interested in are made aware of these camps well before the general public and they take the majority of spots. The camp is then put on the website for open registration but there are few if any spots still open and when players try to sigh up they are put on a wait-list. This may only happen at some of the top programs, most other programs have to cast a much wider net so they can't limit their invites to 50 players.

This may have changed but it was certainly the case when my oldest went through the process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On September 1st do coaches just touch base with players they like or are there actual offers? I'm a new to the process and not sure how it works. Thanks

It all depends on the player and the coaches... Just remember that it is not a sprint. For most players it will be a process. Coaches have their lists and they will try to nail down the players that they have ranked highest but remember that No Coach gets all of their top recruits. If a coach is bringing in 9 recruits it is not likely that they will get 1 - 9 on their list. Every time a player at the top of a coaches list commits to another school the coach has to adjust their list and bump a player up. Make sure the the coaches on your daughters list know that your daughter has genuine interest in the program and the school. When coaches are looking at multiple players of similar ability, the coach will most likely offer a spot to the player who really wants to go to the school.

Completely agree with the comments above. Also keep in mind that there is a huge transfer portal now too. And not everyone in the portal is transferring for just their 5th grad year. Many undergrads in there looking for different schools and playing opportunities for 2-3 more years. Many coaches will prefer to take a proven college transfer player vs an unproven HS recruit. Less roster spots available overall and coaches taking longer than ever to pull the trigger. Reason you are still seeing many 22 commitments occurring. I wouldn’t be disappointed if it is fairly quiet on Sept 1st. It’s only day 1 and just know that it is a fairly long process if done correctly. Both sides need to be sure it’s a good fit. The transfer portal is full of undergrads who rushed to decide to eventually realize the college and/or team was not the right fit.

Also keep in mind that larger D1 rosters mean less playing time. Your daughter may want to consider a different division too where she will actually be able to play and contribute more. Lots of pre-Covid D1 recruits won’t see the field in post-Covid D1 until their senior year. Instead they could be a superstar on a D2/D3 roster with 4 years of playing time. A lot more fun to actually play. Too many older players on the roster ahead of them now. Look at the University of Maryland’s roster now as an example. So many transfers in just the past couple of weeks. I would detest to be a 21 or 22 recruit at Maryland. Unless you are considered an immediate impact player and year 1 starter, they will have to wait so much longer to actually see the field. And we all know Maryland never subs so these girls will truly never see the field in a game at all until possibly year 3-4 and some will never take the field in college. They will always be part of the practice squad.

Obviously you have an issue with Maryland. Many students, not just athletes transfer from many schools for a variety of reasons all of the time. To say that going DII or DIII will guarantee that a player will see playing time all four years and or be a superstar is not the best advise, you have no idea if a player will play or be a superstar. Many players do not get much playing time at the DII and DIII level no guarantee anywhere. Sure, if a player is offered a spot at a place like Maryland there is a very good chance that the player would start and be a superstar at the DII or DIII level. However, many people choose the school for a combination of Academics, Athletics, Social Life and overall college experience, playing time is just a part of the equation. Look to find the best fit, look for schools that your daughter would be happy at if she was not playing lacrosse.

Actually I have ZERO issues with Maryland. I am actually an alumnus and it was never a school on my daughter’s list. She wanted to go OOS. Maryland is too close. However, I have seen MD’s recent IG posts announcing their incoming transfers and know some girls who have played at UM in recent years and know CR’s coaching style. She doesn’t sub often. That is a well known fact. There are many HS superstar recruits over the years who have never seen the field in college. EVER. If these girls were good enough to be recruited by Maryland, they are good enough to be recruited by most teams. Obviously different coaches look for different things but a player who is the caliber of a UM recruit could probably play at any school. And as a UM alumni myself, it’s safe to say that there are many academic equivalent options as well - including reputation, school size, town size, academic offerings, etc. I’m just making the point that a 2023 recruit should not limit themselves to a specific school or division. The bigger and broader their list, the better chances of landing a school they will be happy with long term. I said there were MANY important factors to consider when choosing a college not just playing time. Bottom line is don’t just choose because of a player or parent ego. Choose the best overall school for you - including potential playing time. I’m guessing most girls would actually like to play in games in college vs just being part of the practice squad.

If only the girls who get regular playing time stay at a school coaches couldn’t even hold a practice. Players ride the bench at every school.

I'm not one of the previous posters, but yes, obviously every team has bench players. Some don't see much game action at all, some are regular subs every game, and some are in between. Coaches definitely have different styles in how they value and develop players from top to bottom. Maryland for example has a roster full of top ranked recruits and UA Senior All Americans, yet is known for limited subbing and is now bringing in transfers instead of developing and making the best with the players they chose to sign. It's their choice to do so - not bashing MD, UNC, etc. - but it is something for recruits to consider because even though the extra covid year is going to run its course, I'm guessing there will continue to be more transfer movement moving forward if players aren't happy with their situation after freshman and sophomore year. A kid who is truly top talent will have a chance to play at MD or UNC right away, so go for it committing to those schools. A player who is ok not getting game time, but wants to be on a team competing for conference and national championships, will be fine at those schools. A player who really wants playing time needs to think carefully and realistically about how their skills fit in at a particular program, and how much effort is put into developing players who have a lot of protentional but need a little more work to make an impact during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question re: D1 recruiting. DD getting invites now for prospect days in September. These are very small (say, capped at 30 players) and I would never be able to find them on my own, emails are coming directly from the coaches and not automatic responses. Money grabs or legit opportunities?

Yet, D2 school that is actively recruiting her already has her down for a prospect day weekend and no mention of the $100 or whatever these things tend to cost.

I realize it’s a drop in the bucket in lacrosse dollars but at this point, I’m not interested in forking over $100 for a prospect day when she could just be invited for a visit.

Don't know about D2, but D1 cn not have invite only clinics. Many coaches want to see and work with players at a camp or clinic before making an offer, and will communicate they'd love to see a player at xyz (by telling club coach, for example, if prior to 9/1 junior year). Maybe some send targeted emails prior to 9/1, but it can be hard to interpret level of interest without player talking to the coach or getting feedback through club. My daughter is older, but if I had a 2023 I would not sign up for anything in the fall until after 9/1. Wait and see who actually contacts your daughter and focus your time and money there. A prospect day prior to 9/1 could be helpful if you already know program is interested, or your daughter really, really wants to get on coach's radar, but probably not necessary for players a program has seen and already have high on their list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Unfortunately, you will see how relationships change Sept 1st. Parents are going to compare your daughter to theirs & will say things that may discourage your process. I know this because I’ve been there. Best advise is to just keep your communications (specifics) to yourselves.

Some parents are delusional when it comes to their daughters ability and how she stacks up against other players. When the recruiting starts college coaches make it known where each player stands. Some parents can’t take it if other players (especially their daughters teammates ) get recruited ahead of their daughter. I have seen the bitterness first hand and it is ugly. This is the time when all of the BS excuses start and some parents will try to discredit or tear down the other players to anyone who will listen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone’s process is different. You can’t compare what’s happening to other girls to your daughters. Your daughter will end up where she’s meant to be. Anyone that discusses who is contacting their daughter or who is talking to a coach about their daughter is gaudy. I understand girls get excited, but they shouldn’t talk about their process to anyone & you should 100% give that advise to your daughter.

Just curious why you think parents or players should not talk to anyone about their process. Several parents asked me about the process for my kids, (I had no problem discussing it) I am sure some of my kids friends asked them as well. Personally I do not think it's a big deal, and I do not believe discussing the process with other parents has any affect on the process or where your child ends up being recruited or where your child commits. IMHO communication is helpful as long as you are not the type of person to become envious, jealous and or bitter.

Your process and the specifics are private. Communication is excellent as long as you’re not the type of person to to use it for your own sideline chest puffing. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Unfortunately, you will see how relationships change Sept 1st. Parents are going to compare your daughter to theirs & will say things that may discourage your process. I know this because I’ve been there. Best advise is to just keep your communications (specifics) to yourselves.

Some parents are delusional when it comes to their daughters ability and how she stacks up against other players. When the recruiting starts college coaches make it known where each player stands. Some parents can’t take it if other players (especially their daughters teammates ) get recruited ahead of their daughter. I have seen the bitterness first hand and it is ugly. This is the time when all of the BS excuses start and some parents will try to discredit or tear down the other players to anyone who will listen.

Is that what you did?

I could see some crazy parents trying to sabotage a kid they thought was getting looks over their own, so for that reason I think it makes sense to keep recruiting conversations to oneself.

I'm the prospect invite mom from above, thanks so much for the helpful feedback. I suspect that it's a legit opportunity, I never would have found the link to sign her up without a very directed email from the coach herself. But it's certainly different than the d2 invite which gave us several weekend options, social time with the girls, campus tour, team meet and greet etc. I think we will see what happens on Sept 1 and have a better idea of what the big picture looks like. DD's dream schools will not be contacting her to play lacrosse (UNC, MD not happening), but she is open to finding a new dream school based on the opportunities that present.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could see some crazy parents trying to sabotage a kid they thought was getting looks over their own, so for that reason I think it makes sense to keep recruiting conversations to oneself.

I'm the prospect invite mom from above, thanks so much for the helpful feedback. I suspect that it's a legit opportunity, I never would have found the link to sign her up without a very directed email from the coach herself. But it's certainly different than the d2 invite which gave us several weekend options, social time with the girls, campus tour, team meet and greet etc. I think we will see what happens on Sept 1 and have a better idea of what the big picture looks like. DD's dream schools will not be contacting her to play lacrosse (UNC, MD not happening), but she is open to finding a new dream school based on the opportunities that present.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could see some crazy parents trying to sabotage a kid they thought was getting looks over their own, so for that reason I think it makes sense to keep recruiting conversations to oneself.

I'm the prospect invite mom from above, thanks so much for the helpful feedback. I suspect that it's a legit opportunity, I never would have found the link to sign her up without a very directed email from the coach herself. But it's certainly different than the d2 invite which gave us several weekend options, social time with the girls, campus tour, team meet and greet etc. I think we will see what happens on Sept 1 and have a better idea of what the big picture looks like. DD's dream schools will not be contacting her to play lacrosse (UNC, MD not happening), but she is open to finding a new dream school based on the opportunities that present.

Prospect days are rough-I would only go if the coach calls on Sept.1st and tells your daughter that they want to see her play. My daughters had hand written post cards to prospect days and we shelled out bucks to go to 2 prospect days at one of their tops schools. Then, on 9/1 crickets from that school-I was quite salty over that for a while. I also saw many, many girls get invites and go to fall prospect days. The coaches hand select one or two groups of their top tier kids and only watch them at the prospect days. A lot are money grabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could see some crazy parents trying to sabotage a kid they thought was getting looks over their own, so for that reason I think it makes sense to keep recruiting conversations to oneself.

I'm the prospect invite mom from above, thanks so much for the helpful feedback. I suspect that it's a legit opportunity, I never would have found the link to sign her up without a very directed email from the coach herself. But it's certainly different than the d2 invite which gave us several weekend options, social time with the girls, campus tour, team meet and greet etc. I think we will see what happens on Sept 1 and have a better idea of what the big picture looks like. DD's dream schools will not be contacting her to play lacrosse (UNC, MD not happening), but she is open to finding a new dream school based on the opportunities that present.

It sounds like your DD will definitely have some schools to choose from and a supportive parent (or 2) to help her through the process. Just tell her to enjoy the process as much as she possibly can and to not get discouraged or super stressed if it takes longer than she was hoping or anticipating. Recruiting is definitely still affected by Covid but in the end it will definitely work out. I wish your daughter the best of luck!

Sorry, I just do not get any of this nonsense about playing time. If everyone only considered going to a school where they were guaranteed to play no school would be able to field a team.

Pre-Covid average roster size at most D I programs was in the low to mid 30's, current roster size at least at the top schools is now 35 - 40 or so.
More competitive to get on the field due to larger rosters but in the end, most programs, "not just Maryland" play on average 16 - 17 players in competitive games (Syracuse & Northwestern play 20 plus even in very competitive 1 goal games.)

Below are the results 12 "one" goal games and the number of Players each team played in that game. (winning team on the left)

........... W --------------------- L ...................... the number listed is not the score, it's how many players played in the game.

Boston College 16 - North Carolina 17
Syracuse 21 - Northwestern 26
Navy 17 - Florida 16
Penn 14 - Hopkins 15
JMU 19 - High Point 14
Marist 18 - Vermont 19
Princeton 15 - Stony Brook 15
Fairfield 18 - Monmouth 16
Duke 18 - Maryland 16
Notre Dame 18 - Virginia 16
Drexel 16 - Towson 18
Elon 17 - Delaware 16

It doesn't matter if it is Maryland, High Point, Stony Brook, Drexel, or Penn, in competitive games teams average 16 - 17 players getting in the game. In less competitive game teams (including Maryland) play 20 plus players.

IMHO, athletes want to challenge themselves and compete, they do not want to drop down where they will not be challenged just so they can be the best player on the field. Now, if the player feels that they are in over their head that's a different story.

As far as developing players, maybe, just maybe the Maryland coach develops all of the players, you have to remember, all players are not equal so if the coach develops the weakest player on the team but also develops everyone else as well the weakest player may still be the weakest player.

At the end of the day, you can't have a program if you only have 16 or 17 players on the roster. It doesn't matter if it's Maryland or Marist, there are no guarantees and not everyone plays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, I just do not get any of this nonsense about playing time. If everyone only considered going to a school where they were guaranteed to play no school would be able to field a team.

Pre-Covid average roster size at most D I programs was in the low to mid 30's, current roster size at least at the top schools is now 35 - 40 or so.
More competitive to get on the field due to larger rosters but in the end, most programs, "not just Maryland" play on average 16 - 17 players in competitive games (Syracuse & Northwestern play 20 plus even in very competitive 1 goal games.)

Below are the results 12 "one" goal games and the number of Players each team played in that game. (winning team on the left)

........... W --------------------- L ...................... the number listed is not the score, it's how many players played in the game.

Boston College 16 - North Carolina 17
Syracuse 21 - Northwestern 26
Navy 17 - Florida 16
Penn 14 - Hopkins 15
JMU 19 - High Point 14
Marist 18 - Vermont 19
Princeton 15 - Stony Brook 15
Fairfield 18 - Monmouth 16
Duke 18 - Maryland 16
Notre Dame 18 - Virginia 16
Drexel 16 - Towson 18
Elon 17 - Delaware 16

It doesn't matter if it is Maryland, High Point, Stony Brook, Drexel, or Penn, in competitive games teams average 16 - 17 players getting in the game. In less competitive game teams (including Maryland) play 20 plus players.

IMHO, athletes want to challenge themselves and compete, they do not want to drop down where they will not be challenged just so they can be the best player on the field. Now, if the player feels that they are in over their head that's a different story.

As far as developing players, maybe, just maybe the Maryland coach develops all of the players, you have to remember, all players are not equal so if the coach develops the weakest player on the team but also develops everyone else as well the weakest player may still be the weakest player.

At the end of the day, you can't have a program if you only have 16 or 17 players on the roster. It doesn't matter if it's Maryland or Marist, there are no guarantees and not everyone plays.

How can an athlete challenge themselves and compete if they NEVER see the field. There are girls that are "OK" with just being on the team and being a part of the practice squad with the hopes of eventually playing - but some don't get that chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can an athlete challenge themselves and compete if they NEVER see the field. There are girls that are "OK" with just being on the team and being a part of the practice squad with the hopes of eventually playing - but some don't get that chance.

Let’s try:

“Some do not earn that chance”

There’s no “equity” in college sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could see some crazy parents trying to sabotage a kid they thought was getting looks over their own, so for that reason I think it makes sense to keep recruiting conversations to oneself.

I'm the prospect invite mom from above, thanks so much for the helpful feedback. I suspect that it's a legit opportunity, I never would have found the link to sign her up without a very directed email from the coach herself. But it's certainly different than the d2 invite which gave us several weekend options, social time with the girls, campus tour, team meet and greet etc. I think we will see what happens on Sept 1 and have a better idea of what the big picture looks like. DD's dream schools will not be contacting her to play lacrosse (UNC, MD not happening), but she is open to finding a new dream school based on the opportunities that present.

Prospect days are rough-I would only go if the coach calls on Sept.1st and tells your daughter that they want to see her play. My daughters had hand written post cards to prospect days and we shelled out bucks to go to 2 prospect days at one of their tops schools. Then, on 9/1 crickets from that school-I was quite salty over that for a while. I also saw many, many girls get invites and go to fall prospect days. The coaches hand select one or two groups of their top tier kids and only watch them at the prospect days. A lot are money grabs.

We had that exact experience with Elon for our '21. Got a message on 9/1 that the coach was interested and wanted to schedule a call with the player and parents. Please come to our prospect day. Once we paid he ghosted us. Get to the prospect day and it was clear he had done the same thing to most of the girls there. Total money grab.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, I just do not get any of this nonsense about playing time. If everyone only considered going to a school where they were guaranteed to play no school would be able to field a team.

Pre-Covid average roster size at most D I programs was in the low to mid 30's, current roster size at least at the top schools is now 35 - 40 or so.
More competitive to get on the field due to larger rosters but in the end, most programs, "not just Maryland" play on average 16 - 17 players in competitive games (Syracuse & Northwestern play 20 plus even in very competitive 1 goal games.)

Below are the results 12 "one" goal games and the number of Players each team played in that game. (winning team on the left)

........... W --------------------- L ...................... the number listed is not the score, it's how many players played in the game.

Boston College 16 - North Carolina 17
Syracuse 21 - Northwestern 26
Navy 17 - Florida 16
Penn 14 - Hopkins 15
JMU 19 - High Point 14
Marist 18 - Vermont 19
Princeton 15 - Stony Brook 15
Fairfield 18 - Monmouth 16
Duke 18 - Maryland 16
Notre Dame 18 - Virginia 16
Drexel 16 - Towson 18
Elon 17 - Delaware 16

It doesn't matter if it is Maryland, High Point, Stony Brook, Drexel, or Penn, in competitive games teams average 16 - 17 players getting in the game. In less competitive game teams (including Maryland) play 20 plus players.

IMHO, athletes want to challenge themselves and compete, they do not want to drop down where they will not be challenged just so they can be the best player on the field. Now, if the player feels that they are in over their head that's a different story.

As far as developing players, maybe, just maybe the Maryland coach develops all of the players, you have to remember, all players are not equal so if the coach develops the weakest player on the team but also develops everyone else as well the weakest player may still be the weakest player.

At the end of the day, you can't have a program if you only have 16 or 17 players on the roster. It doesn't matter if it's Maryland or Marist, there are no guarantees and not everyone plays.

How can an athlete challenge themselves and compete if they NEVER see the field. There are girls that are "OK" with just being on the team and being a part of the practice squad with the hopes of eventually playing - but some don't get that chance.

They can challenge themselves and their teammates everyday in practice and in the weight room. Some will play, some will never play, it’s the same at every level in every sport.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could see some crazy parents trying to sabotage a kid they thought was getting looks over their own, so for that reason I think it makes sense to keep recruiting conversations to oneself.

I'm the prospect invite mom from above, thanks so much for the helpful feedback. I suspect that it's a legit opportunity, I never would have found the link to sign her up without a very directed email from the coach herself. But it's certainly different than the d2 invite which gave us several weekend options, social time with the girls, campus tour, team meet and greet etc. I think we will see what happens on Sept 1 and have a better idea of what the big picture looks like. DD's dream schools will not be contacting her to play lacrosse (UNC, MD not happening), but she is open to finding a new dream school based on the opportunities that present.

Prospect days are rough-I would only go if the coach calls on Sept.1st and tells your daughter that they want to see her play. My daughters had hand written post cards to prospect days and we shelled out bucks to go to 2 prospect days at one of their tops schools. Then, on 9/1 crickets from that school-I was quite salty over that for a while. I also saw many, many girls get invites and go to fall prospect days. The coaches hand select one or two groups of their top tier kids and only watch them at the prospect days. A lot are money grabs.

We had that exact experience with Elon for our '21. Got a message on 9/1 that the coach was interested and wanted to schedule a call with the player and parents. Please come to our prospect day. Once we paid he ghosted us. Get to the prospect day and it was clear he had done the same thing to most of the girls there. Total money grab.

Elon did that?!?!?! That is on our list of schools. I never see their coaches on any lists for any of the tournaments we go to (we are a top MD team so we go to all of the big ones.).

They had a few small prospect days in the very beginning of the summer but nothing since then. Does this mean that they are not traditional recruiters? They don’t seem very responsive. Does anyone know?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, I just do not get any of this nonsense about playing time. If everyone only considered going to a school where they were guaranteed to play no school would be able to field a team.

Pre-Covid average roster size at most D I programs was in the low to mid 30's, current roster size at least at the top schools is now 35 - 40 or so.
More competitive to get on the field due to larger rosters but in the end, most programs, "not just Maryland" play on average 16 - 17 players in competitive games (Syracuse & Northwestern play 20 plus even in very competitive 1 goal games.)

Below are the results 12 "one" goal games and the number of Players each team played in that game. (winning team on the left)

........... W --------------------- L ...................... the number listed is not the score, it's how many players played in the game.

Boston College 16 - North Carolina 17
Syracuse 21 - Northwestern 26
Navy 17 - Florida 16
Penn 14 - Hopkins 15
JMU 19 - High Point 14
Marist 18 - Vermont 19
Princeton 15 - Stony Brook 15
Fairfield 18 - Monmouth 16
Duke 18 - Maryland 16
Notre Dame 18 - Virginia 16
Drexel 16 - Towson 18
Elon 17 - Delaware 16

It doesn't matter if it is Maryland, High Point, Stony Brook, Drexel, or Penn, in competitive games teams average 16 - 17 players getting in the game. In less competitive game teams (including Maryland) play 20 plus players.

IMHO, athletes want to challenge themselves and compete, they do not want to drop down where they will not be challenged just so they can be the best player on the field. Now, if the player feels that they are in over their head that's a different story.

As far as developing players, maybe, just maybe the Maryland coach develops all of the players, you have to remember, all players are not equal so if the coach develops the weakest player on the team but also develops everyone else as well the weakest player may still be the weakest player.

At the end of the day, you can't have a program if you only have 16 or 17 players on the roster. It doesn't matter if it's Maryland or Marist, there are no guarantees and not everyone plays.

How can an athlete challenge themselves and compete if they NEVER see the field. There are girls that are "OK" with just being on the team and being a part of the practice squad with the hopes of eventually playing - but some don't get that chance.

They can challenge themselves and their teammates everyday in practice and in the weight room. Some will play, some will never play, it’s the same at every level in every sport.

Both of these responses back up the original poster. If you know you want to actually play all 4 years, pick a team or a division that will give you that opportunity. Maryland was only originally mentioned as an example because they are known for minimal subbing. Obviously most of the teams listed above do the same. With a post-Covid roster of 35-40 of ALL D1 level recruits, just know if you commit as a 22 or 23 that you probably will not see the field until your junior or senior year. Especially with such a large transfer portal. Every day there are more schools announcing new transfers into their programs. It's okay to be okay with just being on the practice squad and challenging their teammates in practice and in the weight room. It's also okay to play on a team where you will be one of the best players and play all 4 years. The original question was asking about recruiting and as a parent who has been through the process with a 2018 and 2022 DD, I have experienced it before and during covid. The college lacrosse landscape is very different for my 22 than it was for my 18 (who plays high level D1 lacrosse but will not be taking advantage of her 5th year next year because she already has a job lined up). However, my older daughter will not be telling her coach this until absolute necessary because she does not want to be unfairly punished for NOT taking her 5th year. She gets a lot of playing time now and is afraid that she will be penalized for not taking it.

The situations regarding prospect days are really helpful to hear about. I thought we’d be done with the money grabs after September 1. Some of the prospect days are refreshingly inexpensive, but I do need to be careful because $100-150 x10 really adds up — that’s not including the travel!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The situations regarding prospect days are really helpful to hear about. I thought we’d be done with the money grabs after September 1. Some of the prospect days are refreshingly inexpensive, but I do need to be careful because $100-150 x10 really adds up — that’s not including the travel!

This is the litmus test that could be helpful for prospect days. If your daughter is personally invited by the coach and speaks to them on September 1 and it’s her dream school-then go for it!!

Everyone is just a needle in the haystack.If your kid got an email invitation or even better a hand written post card I would jump at that opportunity.The rest is up to how you play at that prospect day.If you shine it’s was great if you don’t and the coach moves on then so be it.
$100-150 is a drop in the bucket compared to what you probably spent getting to this point.Finish the journey the money grab is almost over.

Where can I find who was awarded the Suffolk County Girls High School awards for this past season?

When your daughter gets a look on her profile from a T-30 school when she hasn’t sent anything out them it means…
1.- they saw you play while watching another recruits video?
2.-another coach said something?
3.- anyone know???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When your daughter gets a look on her profile from a T-30 school when she hasn’t sent anything out them it means…
1.- they saw you play while watching another recruits video?
2.-another coach said something?
3.- anyone know???

Not really sure. It could mean a lot of things. Over the past week, my daughters profile hits have been blowing up. We know of some schools who indicated they were interested to our directors, looking again, but many other taking a look that we were surprised at. Some have come back several times and watched or rewatched video. I think the schools are finalizing their tiers of recruits. We will all find out what it means in a couple weeks! Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I find who was awarded the Suffolk County Girls High School awards for this past season?

The only list I know of is All Long Island from Newsday.The all county,conference and divisions awards are basically awarded by your high school coach and the amount of slots given to a team is their final placement of the varsity season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When your daughter gets a look on her profile from a T-30 school when she hasn’t sent anything out them it means…
1.- they saw you play while watching another recruits video?
2.-another coach said something?
3.- anyone know???

Not really sure. It could mean a lot of things. Over the past week, my daughters profile hits have been blowing up. We know of some schools who indicated they were interested to our directors, looking again, but many other taking a look that we were surprised at. Some have come back several times and watched or rewatched video. I think the schools are finalizing their tiers of recruits. We will all find out what it means in a couple weeks! Good luck!

I think they are re-watching too. And I do think coaches talk, particularly coaches that may have seen them at a camp or clinic, because say my DD was at a clinic, suddenly views went way up in a particular geography and I think those coaches may know one another. But other schools will look one day and then the video seems to be circulating through and it's getting seen a couple times a day by coaches from that school. But who knows. Views can just be views. DD gets tons of views but DI's did not reach out to her club coach yet. She may be more a lower tier prospect, and that's OK, we'll know soon enough. I just need to keep DD from getting distracted by the emotional toll the waiting is taking.

Now that the Seniors started college, will Section XI get the plaques out for All County? Or is Tom Combs still on his power trip of being in control and allowing fall sports full steam ahead??? DON’T forget what those in charge did to our athletes!!!

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could see some crazy parents trying to sabotage a kid they thought was getting looks over their own, so for that reason I think it makes sense to keep recruiting conversations to oneself.

I'm the prospect invite mom from above, thanks so much for the helpful feedback. I suspect that it's a legit opportunity, I never would have found the link to sign her up without a very directed email from the coach herself. But it's certainly different than the d2 invite which gave us several weekend options, social time with the girls, campus tour, team meet and greet etc. I think we will see what happens on Sept 1 and have a better idea of what the big picture looks like. DD's dream schools will not be contacting her to play lacrosse (UNC, MD not happening), but she is open to finding a new dream school based on the opportunities that present.

Prospect days are rough-I would only go if the coach calls on Sept.1st and tells your daughter that they want to see her play. My daughters had hand written post cards to prospect days and we shelled out bucks to go to 2 prospect days at one of their tops schools. Then, on 9/1 crickets from that school-I was quite salty over that for a while. I also saw many, many girls get invites and go to fall prospect days. The coaches hand select one or two groups of their top tier kids and only watch them at the prospect days. A lot are money grabs.

We had that exact experience with Elon for our '21. Got a message on 9/1 that the coach was interested and wanted to schedule a call with the player and parents. Please come to our prospect day. Once we paid he ghosted us. Get to the prospect day and it was clear he had done the same thing to most of the girls there. Total money grab.

Question for all, want to respectfully ask, why play for a university like Elon that no one really knows.. like your kid still has to go to school there and is gonna have that on her resume. Why not go to a more prestigious school and try to walk on or play club. Reality check here but lacrosse ain’t paying the bills. The goal is to get access into a great school that you wouldn’t otherwise have gotten into to set you up for a career. does anyone else see it this way? Why send your kids to lower tier academic universities?

Just my opinion from what I’ve seen in recruiting and picking schools.On the athletic side you have to love the coach and like your conference that you will be traveling and competing in and for academics which is the most important as we can all agree must be picked according to your intelligence,classroom habits and ability to take test and handle workload.
We all want our kids to graduate from prestigious or just higher end academic institutions but if your kid can’t handle it will be a recipe for disaster.Strive for what’s attainable and be the best at it.College sports is a whole other level not matter what division.The workload is two fold of varsity teams and college professors rarely cut you a lot of slack because you play lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just my opinion from what I’ve seen in recruiting and picking schools.On the athletic side you have to love the coach and like your conference that you will be traveling and competing in and for academics which is the most important as we can all agree must be picked according to your intelligence,classroom habits and ability to take test and handle workload.
We all want our kids to graduate from prestigious or just higher end academic institutions but if your kid can’t handle it will be a recipe for disaster.Strive for what’s attainable and be the best at it.College sports is a whole other level not matter what division.The workload is two fold of varsity teams and college professors rarely cut you a lot of slack because you play lax.

I agree with this mostly, except that once you’re accepted, most schools im the top 50 are pretty similar as far as difficulty in the classroom. I have two in school. One at an Ivy, the other a big 10. They take similar classes and they are essentially the same. I suppose if you are taking a very difficult major it could be different. Just my experience. My advice is to go to the highest ranked school you can get into, unless you’re a kid who’s only goal is to major in lacrosse and win a National Championship.

With so many factors at play, Elon may be the best option for some kids. They have a really good reputation as a great place for kids with learning disabilities and it’s a beautiful campus and reasonably priced for a private institution. Not all kids are top 30 material, but may be gifted athletes capable of playing D1. Elon is well known in the south. My impression is that they recruit through club directors— our club has sent some girls there.

Like you though I’m looking for the best academic spot my kid can get into with lax. Where that will be remains to be seen and Junior years grades will be a factor. Thanks, covid!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With so many factors at play, Elon may be the best option for some kids. They have a really good reputation as a great place for kids with learning disabilities and it’s a beautiful campus and reasonably priced for a private institution. Not all kids are top 30 material, but may be gifted athletes capable of playing D1. Elon is well known in the south. My impression is that they recruit through club directors— our club has sent some girls there.

Like you though I’m looking for the best academic spot my kid can get into with lax. Where that will be remains to be seen and Junior years grades will be a factor. Thanks, covid!

Elon is a beautiful school and has a good lacrosse program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, I just do not get any of this nonsense about playing time. If everyone only considered going to a school where they were guaranteed to play no school would be able to field a team.

Pre-Covid average roster size at most D I programs was in the low to mid 30's, current roster size at least at the top schools is now 35 - 40 or so.
More competitive to get on the field due to larger rosters but in the end, most programs, "not just Maryland" play on average 16 - 17 players in competitive games (Syracuse & Northwestern play 20 plus even in very competitive 1 goal games.)

Below are the results 12 "one" goal games and the number of Players each team played in that game. (winning team on the left)

........... W --------------------- L ...................... the number listed is not the score, it's how many players played in the game.

Boston College 16 - North Carolina 17
Syracuse 21 - Northwestern 26
Navy 17 - Florida 16
Penn 14 - Hopkins 15
JMU 19 - High Point 14
Marist 18 - Vermont 19
Princeton 15 - Stony Brook 15
Fairfield 18 - Monmouth 16
Duke 18 - Maryland 16
Notre Dame 18 - Virginia 16
Drexel 16 - Towson 18
Elon 17 - Delaware 16

It doesn't matter if it is Maryland, High Point, Stony Brook, Drexel, or Penn, in competitive games teams average 16 - 17 players getting in the game. In less competitive game teams (including Maryland) play 20 plus players.

IMHO, athletes want to challenge themselves and compete, they do not want to drop down where they will not be challenged just so they can be the best player on the field. Now, if the player feels that they are in over their head that's a different story.

As far as developing players, maybe, just maybe the Maryland coach develops all of the players, you have to remember, all players are not equal so if the coach develops the weakest player on the team but also develops everyone else as well the weakest player may still be the weakest player.

At the end of the day, you can't have a program if you only have 16 or 17 players on the roster. It doesn't matter if it's Maryland or Marist, there are no guarantees and not everyone plays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, I just do not get any of this nonsense about playing time. If everyone only considered going to a school where they were guaranteed to play no school would be able to field a team.

Pre-Covid average roster size at most D I programs was in the low to mid 30's, current roster size at least at the top schools is now 35 - 40 or so.
More competitive to get on the field due to larger rosters but in the end, most programs, "not just Maryland" play on average 16 - 17 players in competitive games (Syracuse & Northwestern play 20 plus even in very competitive 1 goal games.)

Below are the results 12 "one" goal games and the number of Players each team played in that game. (winning team on the left)

........... W --------------------- L ...................... the number listed is not the score, it's how many players played in the game.

Boston College 16 - North Carolina 17
Syracuse 21 - Northwestern 26
Navy 17 - Florida 16
Penn 14 - Hopkins 15
JMU 19 - High Point 14
Marist 18 - Vermont 19
Princeton 15 - Stony Brook 15
Fairfield 18 - Monmouth 16
Duke 18 - Maryland 16
Notre Dame 18 - Virginia 16
Drexel 16 - Towson 18
Elon 17 - Delaware 16

It doesn't matter if it is Maryland, High Point, Stony Brook, Drexel, or Penn, in competitive games teams average 16 - 17 players getting in the game. In less competitive game teams (including Maryland) play 20 plus players.

IMHO, athletes want to challenge themselves and compete, they do not want to drop down where they will not be challenged just so they can be the best player on the field. Now, if the player feels that they are in over their head that's a different story.

As far as developing players, maybe, just maybe the Maryland coach develops all of the players, you have to remember, all players are not equal so if the coach develops the weakest player on the team but also develops everyone else as well the weakest player may still be the weakest player.

At the end of the day, you can't have a program if you only have 16 or 17 players on the roster. It doesn't matter if it's Maryland or Marist, there are no guarantees and not everyone plays.

These facts and stats are going to really upset people who just like to stick to narratives like “Maryland never subs”. Most of the top teams play 16-18 players in tight games. These parents don’t understand that college coaches are paid to win games. There is no statistical evidence that says subbing =winning. College coaches know their teams best and just because a girl was a All American in HS, doesnt mean they will be great college players. I think teams like UNC, MD have proven that they know what they are doing in terms of putting the best TEAM on the field. There is a reason these teams are consistently in the final 4 and girls who don’t see the field much still love being on the team.

As someone who lives in the northeast and works in Fintech I am never sending my kids Elon (also don’t see many LI girls on the roster like Cuse or BC). Especially after what was confirmed earlier in this thread. The south can keep it. Would rather nassau community college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As someone who lives in the northeast and works in Fintech I am never sending my kids Elon (also don’t see many LI girls on the roster like Cuse or BC). Especially after what was confirmed earlier in this thread. The south can keep it. Would rather nassau community college.

What are you talking about? Nobody cares where you will or will not send your kids to college. If you do not see many LI girls on rosters like Cuse and BC you obviously aren't looking.

What was the purpose of your post, are you talking to yourself?

Has anyone seen the Labor Day D1scovery Day Showcase Camp taking place at Cantiague Park? Seems like a good event for only $189 with the top coaching and exposure the 44 players would get from just the list of schools so far.

It's a soft period but D1's are allowed to be there and it's the only event in September that I can find locally so I am going to register my daughter - just wanted to get others thoughts. Thank you.

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

They did for my daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

They did for my daughter.

Every situation is different. Recruits are not considered equal by coaches, programs have different budgets, not every player that a coach talks to is invited on an official visit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

They did for my daughter.

Every situation is different. Recruits are not considered equal by coaches, programs have different budgets, not every player that a coach talks to is invited on an official visit.

My daughter took 4 official visits, the West coast teams paid her airfare, we paid for ours. They paid all other expenses for all of us. Room and food. The two east coast teams paid for everything including our gas and tolls. Obviously no airfare on the two east coast teams she visited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

They did for my daughter.

Every situation is different. Recruits are not considered equal by coaches, programs have different budgets, not every player that a coach talks to is invited on an official visit.

My daughter took 4 official visits, the West coast teams paid her airfare, we paid for ours. They paid all other expenses for all of us. Room and food. The two east coast teams paid for everything including our gas and tolls. Obviously no airfare on the two east coast teams she visited.

That's awesome! Did your daughter receive formal offers on the visits, including scholarship amounts? Did they give her a time frame or try to sway you away from visiting other schools? Thanks for any information you can share.

For official visits- schools can pay for everything from the travel for the PSA. They can and will also pay for the parents. However only football and basketball parents are allowed to have their travel Cost paid. Lacrosse parents are going to have to buy their airfare but most colleges pay for everything on the official.
Side note- if a recruiting violation occurs talk to compliance-hopefully no one will have to deal with that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

They did for my daughter.

Every situation is different. Recruits are not considered equal by coaches, programs have different budgets, not every player that a coach talks to is invited on an official visit.

My daughter took 4 official visits, the West coast teams paid her airfare, we paid for ours. They paid all other expenses for all of us. Room and food. The two east coast teams paid for everything including our gas and tolls. Obviously no airfare on the two east coast teams she visited.

That's awesome! Did your daughter receive formal offers on the visits, including scholarship amounts? Did they give her a time frame or try to sway you away from visiting other schools? Thanks for any information you can share.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

They did for my daughter.

Every situation is different. Recruits are not considered equal by coaches, programs have different budgets, not every player that a coach talks to is invited on an official visit.

My daughter took 4 official visits, the West coast teams paid her airfare, we paid for ours. They paid all other expenses for all of us. Room and food. The two east coast teams paid for everything including our gas and tolls. Obviously no airfare on the two east coast teams she visited.

That's awesome! Did your daughter receive formal offers on the visits, including scholarship amounts? Did they give her a time frame or try to sway you away from visiting other schools? Thanks for any information you can share.

Yes she did receive offers while at each school. She also had a coach reach out while we were at another school, she increased her offer and asked us to call her at the end of our current visit. You usually get a private meeting with the Head coach on your visit. That’s when they usually offer. One of our trips there were 12 recruits there and only 4 players had the private meeting. Turns out only those 4 received offers. Every school is different though. Our 4 official visits all pretty much went the same way for us. Nobody gave her a time limit. She had around 15 calls on Sept 1. About 10 followed up that were serious. My daughter only wanted to visit four schools. But we made her contact all that contacted her to say Thank you and let them know she was not going to be visiting. My daughter ended up exactly where she always wanted to go. It was a great experience for us. It was all pre Covid also. She was a 2021

So gross how Inside Lacrosse only writes stories promoting the Sept 1 recruiting date for boys. Time for girls to get equal treatment and not be the story hidden far down!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

They did for my daughter.

Every situation is different. Recruits are not considered equal by coaches, programs have different budgets, not every player that a coach talks to is invited on an official visit.

My daughter took 4 official visits, the West coast teams paid her airfare, we paid for ours. They paid all other expenses for all of us. Room and food. The two east coast teams paid for everything including our gas and tolls. Obviously no airfare on the two east coast teams she visited.

That's awesome! Did your daughter receive formal offers on the visits, including scholarship amounts? Did they give her a time frame or try to sway you away from visiting other schools? Thanks for any information you can share.

Our daughter received offers on her 4 trips. We received an itinerary when we got on campus from the coaching staff. We had appointments to meet with the Head coach. In those meetings we received her offers. No one gave us a deadline. But from what I’ve heard that’s not the case with all schools. Also not all athletes on the visits receive offers on their trip. We were at one school with 12 athletes and only 4 received offers from what we know. On one of our visits our daughter received a call from a school that we already visited and increased her offer substantially. Told our daughter to please do not commit till she speaks to her again after the visit we were on. These coaches talk. How she knew we were at another school surprised us. After her 4th official visit she took about 4 days to make her decision. She knew all along where she wanted to go, but we made her take a few days anyway. We made her call the other schools to thank them and let them know she would be committing elsewhere just to be courteous.

Did these plaques ever go out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the Seniors started college, will Section XI get the plaques out for All County? Or is Tom Combs still on his power trip of being in control and allowing fall sports full steam ahead??? DON’T forget what those in charge did to our athletes!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the Seniors started college, will Section XI get the plaques out for All County? Or is Tom Combs still on his power trip of being in control and allowing fall sports full steam ahead??? DON’T forget what those in charge did to our athletes!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did these plaques ever go out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the Seniors started college, will Section XI get the plaques out for All County? Or is Tom Combs still on his power trip of being in control and allowing fall sports full steam ahead??? DON’T forget what those in charge did to our athletes!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the Seniors started college, will Section XI get the plaques out for All County? Or is Tom Combs still on his power trip of being in control and allowing fall sports full steam ahead??? DON’T forget what those in charge did to our athletes!!!

They should have went to the school. My daughter never received hers, All County and AA. I will follow up with the athletic director.

We didn’t receive anything yet either.I can’t see how they would not have gone out yet considering how long ago it was.The soccer plaques were handed out right after season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do schools pay all expenses for both parents to accompany their daughter on an official visit?

No, they dont.
For certain schools you can talk your way into going along all expenses paid. It happened with my in laws. Player was a goalie.

NCAA rules do not allow schools to pay for parents airfare. This is not a West coast thing. They will pay for everything else on an official visit.

What’s with this Team USA Brodgen cup? All of the games were blowouts, and the squads didn’t even have the top girls there. How did they pick these teams, and why would anyone waste their time and money to play non competitive lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s with this Team USA Brodgen cup? All of the games were blowouts, and the squads didn’t even have the top girls there. How did they pick these teams, and why would anyone waste their time and money to play non competitive lacrosse?

If you made the team it was free. They had tryouts all summer. And what a dense comment. If anyone can get an opportunity to wear a USA uniform most would. It was an awesome weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s with this Team USA Brodgen cup? All of the games were blowouts, and the squads didn’t even have the top girls there. How did they pick these teams, and why would anyone waste their time and money to play non competitive lacrosse?

It was the coolest lacrosse experience my daughter has ever participated in....Running onto the field with USA on your uniform, meeting teammates from across the country that are now called friends. Lacrosse was just a small part, the relationships that were developed will hopefully last a lifetime. Incredible weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s with this Team USA Brodgen cup? All of the games were blowouts, and the squads didn’t even have the top girls there. How did they pick these teams, and why would anyone waste their time and money to play non competitive lacrosse?

It was the coolest lacrosse experience my daughter has ever participated in....Running onto the field with USA on your uniform, meeting teammates from across the country that are now called friends. Lacrosse was just a small part, the relationships that were developed will hopefully last a lifetime. Incredible weekend.

Yes. I unfortunately can't do a lot of these things due to financial limitations, and there are certainly a lot of money grab events to bash but to bash kids getting the opportunity to wear the USA uniform is just sad.

We took 4 official visits, 3 of which required flights. The college picked up all travel costs for my daughter, including flights; our (parents) flights we had to pay for ourselves; college paid for hotel. Most meals were covered (we did go out on our own one night at our own cost, our choice to check out a particular restaurant). Based on the other experiences of parents of other girls on our club it has been pretty similar...the variable seems to be cost of meals....some are covered some are not...seems to be case by case....also, as above wrtier indicated, offers were made during the face to face meeting....on two occasions head coach met with each of the girls and their families privately (about 7 or 8 girls)....on the other two the coach met with about 4 of the 10 girls on the visit (although not sure if all 10 were on an official visit). Another thing to keep in mind (again, as previously posted but to confirm) it is not unusual for coaches to contact players when they are on an official visit with another school.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We took 4 official visits, 3 of which required flights. The college picked up all travel costs for my daughter, including flights; our (parents) flights we had to pay for ourselves; college paid for hotel. Most meals were covered (we did go out on our own one night at our own cost, our choice to check out a particular restaurant). Based on the other experiences of parents of other girls on our club it has been pretty similar...the variable seems to be cost of meals....some are covered some are not...seems to be case by case....also, as above wrtier indicated, offers were made during the face to face meeting....on two occasions head coach met with each of the girls and their families privately (about 7 or 8 girls)....on the other two the coach met with about 4 of the 10 girls on the visit (although not sure if all 10 were on an official visit). Another thing to keep in mind (again, as previously posted but to confirm) it is not unusual for coaches to contact players when they are on an official visit with another school.....

If you are on a visit with other players/families - the girls they are most serious about may be the only ones to get a meeting with the Head Coach. We were on a visit with 7 total players and only 2 met with head coach (including my daughter), everyone else with assistants. Only those who met with head got offers which all happened right after the visit by phone. Not sure of their psychology there. But, probably want to meet to discuss how the meetings went? The coaches had a long list of questions they asked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did these plaques ever go out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the Seniors started college, will Section XI get the plaques out for All County? Or is Tom Combs still on his power trip of being in control and allowing fall sports full steam ahead??? DON’T forget what those in charge did to our athletes!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the Seniors started college, will Section XI get the plaques out for All County? Or is Tom Combs still on his power trip of being in control and allowing fall sports full steam ahead??? DON’T forget what those in charge did to our athletes!!!

They should have went to the school. My daughter never received hers, All County and AA. I will follow up with the athletic director.

Our daughter, Sect 8, got a wood beautiful plaque for soccer. We just received our award for lacrosse, a printed certificate. Really? I guess they're both made of wood, lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We took 4 official visits, 3 of which required flights. The college picked up all travel costs for my daughter, including flights; our (parents) flights we had to pay for ourselves; college paid for hotel. Most meals were covered (we did go out on our own one night at our own cost, our choice to check out a particular restaurant). Based on the other experiences of parents of other girls on our club it has been pretty similar...the variable seems to be cost of meals....some are covered some are not...seems to be case by case....also, as above wrtier indicated, offers were made during the face to face meeting....on two occasions head coach met with each of the girls and their families privately (about 7 or 8 girls)....on the other two the coach met with about 4 of the 10 girls on the visit (although not sure if all 10 were on an official visit). Another thing to keep in mind (again, as previously posted but to confirm) it is not unusual for coaches to contact players when they are on an official visit with another school.....

If you are on a visit with other players/families - the girls they are most serious about may be the only ones to get a meeting with the Head Coach. We were on a visit with 7 total players and only 2 met with head coach (including my daughter), everyone else with assistants. Only those who met with head got offers which all happened right after the visit by phone. Not sure of their psychology there. But, probably want to meet to discuss how the meetings went? The coaches had a long list of questions they asked.

what kind of questions do they ask? did your daughter have a list of questions that she asked? curious how this all works (I have a 2024)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We took 4 official visits, 3 of which required flights. The college picked up all travel costs for my daughter, including flights; our (parents) flights we had to pay for ourselves; college paid for hotel. Most meals were covered (we did go out on our own one night at our own cost, our choice to check out a particular restaurant). Based on the other experiences of parents of other girls on our club it has been pretty similar...the variable seems to be cost of meals....some are covered some are not...seems to be case by case....also, as above wrtier indicated, offers were made during the face to face meeting....on two occasions head coach met with each of the girls and their families privately (about 7 or 8 girls)....on the other two the coach met with about 4 of the 10 girls on the visit (although not sure if all 10 were on an official visit). Another thing to keep in mind (again, as previously posted but to confirm) it is not unusual for coaches to contact players when they are on an official visit with another school.....

If you are on a visit with other players/families - the girls they are most serious about may be the only ones to get a meeting with the Head Coach. We were on a visit with 7 total players and only 2 met with head coach (including my daughter), everyone else with assistants. Only those who met with head got offers which all happened right after the visit by phone. Not sure of their psychology there. But, probably want to meet to discuss how the meetings went? The coaches had a long list of questions they asked.

what kind of questions do they ask? did your daughter have a list of questions that she asked? curious how this all works (I have a 2024)

It varies by coach/school. Some very basic and others more tricky. Things she was asked at visits have included:

What do you look for in a teammate? And inversely she was asked what do you NOT want in teammates?
What character role do you play on a team?
What's the #1 reason our school appeals to you?
How would you respond to being played in a different position?
What techniques do you use to balance academics and lacrosse?
What's your biggest impact on your current teams?
What would you change about your high school team?
What are your goals for your college lacrosse career?
How did COVID affect your lacrosse life? Did you learn anything from it?
How do you manage failure?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We took 4 official visits, 3 of which required flights. The college picked up all travel costs for my daughter, including flights; our (parents) flights we had to pay for ourselves; college paid for hotel. Most meals were covered (we did go out on our own one night at our own cost, our choice to check out a particular restaurant). Based on the other experiences of parents of other girls on our club it has been pretty similar...the variable seems to be cost of meals....some are covered some are not...seems to be case by case....also, as above wrtier indicated, offers were made during the face to face meeting....on two occasions head coach met with each of the girls and their families privately (about 7 or 8 girls)....on the other two the coach met with about 4 of the 10 girls on the visit (although not sure if all 10 were on an official visit). Another thing to keep in mind (again, as previously posted but to confirm) it is not unusual for coaches to contact players when they are on an official visit with another school.....

If you are on a visit with other players/families - the girls they are most serious about may be the only ones to get a meeting with the Head Coach. We were on a visit with 7 total players and only 2 met with head coach (including my daughter), everyone else with assistants. Only those who met with head got offers which all happened right after the visit by phone. Not sure of their psychology there. But, probably want to meet to discuss how the meetings went? The coaches had a long list of questions they asked.

what kind of questions do they ask? did your daughter have a list of questions that she asked? curious how this all works (I have a 2024)

It varies by coach/school. Some very basic and others more tricky. Things she was asked at visits have included:

What do you look for in a teammate? And inversely she was asked what do you NOT want in teammates?
What character role do you play on a team?
What's the #1 reason our school appeals to you?
How would you respond to being played in a different position?
What techniques do you use to balance academics and lacrosse?
What's your biggest impact on your current teams?
What would you change about your high school team?
What are your goals for your college lacrosse career?
How did COVID affect your lacrosse life? Did you learn anything from it?
How do you manage failure?

That’s great! Thank you for that! For the people who’s daughters yet to go through this … this was very helpful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s with this Team USA Brodgen cup? All of the games were blowouts, and the squads didn’t even have the top girls there. How did they pick these teams, and why would anyone waste their time and money to play non competitive lacrosse?

If you made the team it was free. They had tryouts all summer. And what a dense comment. If anyone can get an opportunity to wear a USA uniform most would. It was an awesome weekend.

TG girl dominated. Best player on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s with this Team USA Brodgen cup? All of the games were blowouts, and the squads didn’t even have the top girls there. How did they pick these teams, and why would anyone waste their time and money to play non competitive lacrosse?

If you made the team it was free. They had tryouts all summer. And what a dense comment. If anyone can get an opportunity to wear a USA uniform most would. It was an awesome weekend.

TG girl dominated. Best player on the team.

Excellent defender and Captain. However the whole team played great.

What you look for in a college is first and foremost the academics.
Second is you have to love the coach and be on the same page.
Last is where do you see yourself fitting into the team because unlike high school you may not be the star or go to player.The team has to come first.Daddy isn’t pulling the strings anymore.
Just my opinion from a person who has gone through it twice.Both my kids played D1 lax.My son was probably better off at the D2 or D3 level.Thebfit means everything in the grand scheme of college lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What you look for in a college is first and foremost the academics.
Second is you have to love the coach and be on the same page.
Last is where do you see yourself fitting into the team because unlike high school you may not be the star or go to player.The team has to come first.Daddy isn’t pulling the strings anymore.
Just my opinion from a person who has gone through it twice.Both my kids played D1 lax.My son was probably better off at the D2 or D3 level.Thebfit means everything in the grand scheme of college lacrosse.

I wouldn’t put the coach up there as a priority simply because there are coaching changes all the time.

Where you see yourself fitting in to the team is also a big question mark considering the fact that the “team” will be different every year. Freshmen coming in, transfers coming in, transfers going out, injuries, players deciding to stop playing etc…

Not sure how many daddies are pulling the strings in HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What you look for in a college is first and foremost the academics.
Second is you have to love the coach and be on the same page.
Last is where do you see yourself fitting into the team because unlike high school you may not be the star or go to player.The team has to come first.Daddy isn’t pulling the strings anymore.
Just my opinion from a person who has gone through it twice.Both my kids played D1 lax.My son was probably better off at the D2 or D3 level.Thebfit means everything in the grand scheme of college lacrosse.

I wouldn’t put the coach up there as a priority simply because there are coaching changes all the time.

Where you see yourself fitting in to the team is also a big question mark considering the fact that the “team” will be different every year. Freshmen coming in, transfers coming in, transfers going out, injuries, players deciding to stop playing etc…

Not sure how many daddies are pulling the strings in HS.

So, you are saying it’s probably best to look at a school choice based on what you will be getting out of it academically!? Hmmmm! And, Lacrosse should be the door opener to a higher academic rated school, maybe the kid wouldn’t have had opportunity to attend otherwise? Makes perfect sense!

Yes school and your career path academically first then to choose your school based on lacrosse program or conference or record.
Seen to many talented players either drop out or get a liberal arts degree in no particular field of endeavor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes school and your career path academically first then to choose your school based on lacrosse program or conference or record.
Seen to many talented players either drop out or get a liberal arts degree in no particular field of endeavor.

I have seen many who have done very well with a Liberal Arts Degree, especially when it is from a good school.

I haven seen too many especially the ones that go to the better schools/programs drop out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes school and your career path academically first then to choose your school based on lacrosse program or conference or record.
Seen to many talented players either drop out or get a liberal arts degree in no particular field of endeavor.

I have seen many who have done very well with a Liberal Arts Degree, especially when it is from a good school.

I haven seen too many especially the ones that go to the better schools/programs drop out.

The point of attending college is to better your life. It is to make more money over the course of your lifetime and have a life experience that is worthwhile. An Ivy League/most selective degree will open up more doors for you than a no-name college will. Point blank. Ivies are better colleges because they have greater resources. Kids that attend most selective colleges do not earn more money over the course of their lifetimes because they went to great schools. They earn more money because they’re smart, capable, well-connected, and used these schools to maximize their opportunities.

Nice to see an intelligent conversation here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice to see an intelligent conversation here.

Perhaps an Ivy graduate!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes school and your career path academically first then to choose your school based on lacrosse program or conference or record.
Seen to many talented players either drop out or get a liberal arts degree in no particular field of endeavor.

I don't think too many people pick a school based primarily on the lacrosse program or the conference or the record. Most use lacrosse to help get into a school that is the best overall fit. Most take into account academics, overall college experience, cost, location, lacrosse etc... very few prioritize lacrosse.

I assume when you say "drop out" you are saying they stop playing lacrosse and not that they "drop out" of school. I do not think that there are too many players that stop playing and I would like to believe that very few drop out of school all together. As far as pursuing a degree "in no particular field of endeavor" such as a "Liberal Arts Degree" to each her own, some of the most successful people I know graduated with some form of Liberal Arts Degree.

One of unique and great things about women's lacrosse is all of the opportunity it provides for young women.

So You would say pick the school on the lax program or coach who may not be there when you get there.Not sure what your criteria would be.I did not mean any disrespect to liberal arts degree but most who graduate with them are undecided and are starting from scratch when they graduate.Of course a liberal arts degree from a prestigious university means more but I was talking on average not the Genious who can graduate with any degree an do great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So You would say pick the school on the lax program or coach who may not be there when you get there.Not sure what your criteria would be.I did not mean any disrespect to liberal arts degree but most who graduate with them are undecided and are starting from scratch when they graduate.Of course a liberal arts degree from a prestigious university means more but I was talking on average not the Genious who can graduate with any degree an do great.

What post are you responding to?

Personally for me and my generation I am done with LACs, liberal arts.
I went to one and so did my siblings. I had a brother who dropped out of college to go to electronics school and he’s the most successful as a network engineer.
From what I see of LAC the only thing they excel in is Instagram. I don’t see any of these schools touting the languages or programs that F100 companies use day-to-day.
I had another relative grad from a university and went right into a F50 company b/c she had class and internship with a software used by HR in these companies.
When I get my college magazine I laugh at the efforts they try to show to keep up with other schools, and my college is considered a hot school right now.
Just giving my honest opinion, no sour grapes.

Pick a college based on NOT finishing/playing 4 years of lacrosse. Do you want a degree from the school you are playing for or at you some hole in the wall C school because you could play lacrosse?

Much better walking on at a school you want to be at with an eye on a good degree and an enjoyable 4 year experience

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pick a college based on NOT finishing/playing 4 years of lacrosse. Do you want a degree from the school you are playing for or at you some hole in the wall C school because you could play lacrosse?

Much better walking on at a school you want to be at with an eye on a good degree and an enjoyable 4 year experience

Just as lacrosse can get your kid into a great school that they never would have had a shot at otherwise, It can also keep kids out of schools they could easily get into otherwise. Too many players and parents have it in their minds that they played all these years and they are heck bent to play in college. They are willing to only consider colleges that are recruiting them, and cast all other schools aside. Not sure if that is a pride thing, but don't choose a school or settle for a school way below you academically for all the wrong reasons, college is meant to set your kid up for the rest of their lives. If it is for love of the game, play club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pick a college based on NOT finishing/playing 4 years of lacrosse. Do you want a degree from the school you are playing for or at you some hole in the wall C school because you could play lacrosse?

Much better walking on at a school you want to be at with an eye on a good degree and an enjoyable 4 year experience

Just as lacrosse can get your kid into a great school that they never would have had a shot at otherwise, It can also keep kids out of schools they could easily get into otherwise. Too many players and parents have it in their minds that they played all these years and they are heck bent to play in college. They are willing to only consider colleges that are recruiting them, and cast all other schools aside. Not sure if that is a pride thing, but don't choose a school or settle for a school way below you academically for all the wrong reasons, college is meant to set your kid up for the rest of their lives. If it is for love of the game, play club.

I have not seen many kids choose a school that is well below what their academic credentials would warrant. The ones that do most likely do it because of the merit based aid they receive.

Go where your gut tells you it’s the right fit leaning more towards your intelligence level.You’ll go further in your career investing more academically.Not saying don’t give it all to your team but the books is what pays the bills.

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

Ummm, ok. You don’t have to go to college, free country. There are other paths to take for careers. You sound opinionated and perhaps brainwashed one way?. It’s good to get around people who may not think like your parents and get thoughts/opinions of your own. Hear other peoples opinions too. Instead of just being told what to think by family, And local community. Good to get out of our bubbles and hear and see other thoughts on life. Also, plenty of conservative colleges as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

So don’t send your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pick a college based on NOT finishing/playing 4 years of lacrosse. Do you want a degree from the school you are playing for or at you some hole in the wall C school because you could play lacrosse?

Much better walking on at a school you want to be at with an eye on a good degree and an enjoyable 4 year experience

Just as lacrosse can get your kid into a great school that they never would have had a shot at otherwise, It can also keep kids out of schools they could easily get into otherwise. Too many players and parents have it in their minds that they played all these years and they are heck bent to play in college. They are willing to only consider colleges that are recruiting them, and cast all other schools aside. Not sure if that is a pride thing, but don't choose a school or settle for a school way below you academically for all the wrong reasons, college is meant to set your kid up for the rest of their lives. If it is for love of the game, play club.

I have not seen many kids choose a school that is well below what their academic credentials would warrant. The ones that do most likely do it because of the merit based aid they receive.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE COMMITMENT LIST FORM LI? LOTS OF SCHOOLS THAT WOULD NEVER E ON THE RADAR IF IT WASNT TO PLAY LAX

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

Ummm, ok. You don’t have to go to college, free country. There are other paths to take for careers. You sound opinionated and perhaps brainwashed one way?. It’s good to get around people who may not think like your parents and get thoughts/opinions of your own. Hear other peoples opinions too. Instead of just being told what to think by family, And local community. Good to get out of our bubbles and hear and see other thoughts on life. Also, plenty of conservative colleges as well.

What are the conservative colleges?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

Ummm, ok. You don’t have to go to college, free country. There are other paths to take for careers. You sound opinionated and perhaps brainwashed one way?. It’s good to get around people who may not think like your parents and get thoughts/opinions of your own. Hear other peoples opinions too. Instead of just being told what to think by family, And local community. Good to get out of our bubbles and hear and see other thoughts on life. Also, plenty of conservative colleges as well.

What are the conservative colleges?

Liberty University would be one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

Ummm, ok. You don’t have to go to college, free country. There are other paths to take for careers. You sound opinionated and perhaps brainwashed one way?. It’s good to get around people who may not think like your parents and get thoughts/opinions of your own. Hear other peoples opinions too. Instead of just being told what to think by family, And local community. Good to get out of our bubbles and hear and see other thoughts on life. Also, plenty of conservative colleges as well.

What are the conservative colleges?

Southern party schools! 1000s of fans at Football games and parties and no mask! No one telling you what to do! Have fun!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

Ummm, ok. You don’t have to go to college, free country. There are other paths to take for careers. You sound opinionated and perhaps brainwashed one way?. It’s good to get around people who may not think like your parents and get thoughts/opinions of your own. Hear other peoples opinions too. Instead of just being told what to think by family, And local community. Good to get out of our bubbles and hear and see other thoughts on life. Also, plenty of conservative colleges as well.

What are the conservative colleges?

Conservative meaning ….politically conservative? Not morally? Two whole different things!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One other major factor nobody is mentioning is how much your going to owe at the end of this journey.Forget about the playing time for a second,depending on scholarships and aid the decision on where you go to school has to be based around how much it’s going to cost getting brainwashed by liberal,opinionated professors.I can say at least half or more of what is being tonight in college is subjective and relatively useless in life and career.

Ummm, ok. You don’t have to go to college, free country. There are other paths to take for careers. You sound opinionated and perhaps brainwashed one way?. It’s good to get around people who may not think like your parents and get thoughts/opinions of your own. Hear other peoples opinions too. Instead of just being told what to think by family, And local community. Good to get out of our bubbles and hear and see other thoughts on life. Also, plenty of conservative colleges as well.

What are the conservative colleges?

Southern party schools! 1000s of fans at Football games and parties and no mask! No one telling you what to do! Have fun!

Just about all academic institutions are slanted left (southern or not)

Mask mandates, restrictions, shot requirements, testing etc… is different from the liberal leanings of college professors and instructors.

Question for the masses.
Will American select at $700 a player or Under Armour at $150 get all the talent this year ? Wasn’t impressed with American Select and for them to put their dates same at UA is frustrating too. Taking advantage of families to line their pockets.

Thinking players will stay with the team they played on last year. Some who didn’t make it last year might go UA, as it is much cheaper.

Bayport Blue point HS once again falls short to St. Paul in the national championship game! Congrats it was a great event!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thinking players will stay with the team they played on last year. Some who didn’t make it last year might go UA, as it is much cheaper.

23’s and 25’s will go to underarmour.
24’s and 26 will go to AS and pay more cause the older girls will make under armour. Both teams had questionable girls make them. It will always happen so don’t say one is better at eval than the next.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thinking players will stay with the team they played on last year. Some who didn’t make it last year might go UA, as it is much cheaper.

23’s and 25’s will go to underarmour.
24’s and 26 will go to AS and pay more cause the older girls will make under armour. Both teams had questionable girls make them. It will always happen so don’t say one is better at eval than the next.

Not true, last year the top 24s were at AS. Look at who was where. Undoubtedly, the top 24s were def. At UA!

The question was asked where are the talented players going to play either UA or AS.
What is your objective competition or recruitment.What sidelines were the college coaches on looking for their next recruits and more important who the scholarship money goes too.After all isn’t that why parents drop all the dough on high end events.Can’t be just the sublimated uniforms and a few pics.What in the masses opinion justifies a good event,your team making it to the end or your inbox blowing up before you get home from tourney by the coaches you played in front off.
Just an open question not geared toward controversial responses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thinking players will stay with the team they played on last year. Some who didn’t make it last year might go UA, as it is much cheaper.

23’s and 25’s will go to underarmour.
24’s and 26 will go to AS and pay more cause the older girls will make under armour. Both teams had questionable girls make them. It will always happen so don’t say one is better at eval than the next.

Didn’t AS add a second team for girls who didn’t make the main team and then invite girls who didn’t even try out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question for the masses.
Will American select at $700 a player or Under Armour at $150 get all the talent this year ? Wasn’t impressed with American Select and for them to put their dates same at UA is frustrating too. Taking advantage of families to line their pockets.

$700 is ridiculous and AS is run by a certain queen bee. We all know that means there will be mostly pesky wasps around even if they’re missing a wing or a leg.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thinking players will stay with the team they played on last year. Some who didn’t make it last year might go UA, as it is much cheaper.

23’s and 25’s will go to underarmour.
24’s and 26 will go to AS and pay more cause the older girls will make under armour. Both teams had questionable girls make them. It will always happen so don’t say one is better at eval than the next.

Didn’t AS add a second team for girls who didn’t make the main team and then invite girls who didn’t even try out?

More money for CR. Maybe now she can afford a nice haircut instead of the 80’s mullet

AS will eventually get washed down the drain.
How many more tournaments do these girls need to play this summer? To have the expense of $700 at the end of a very long summer for these girls!

[quote=Anonymous]AS will eventually get washed down the drain.
How many more tournaments do these girls need to play this summer? To have the expense of $700 at the end of a very long summer for these girls![/quote

Wake up call for UA. Tryouts were terrible and talk about political! They need to get their act together, losing credibility and luster.

That’s why AS type showcases could take the talent and get the respect of the college coaches doing the recruiting. AS has to be more careful about selection process and not let it become political.

It may seem political when many YJs end up on the AS team. However, the facts on LI is that , most of the top players are on the YJ teams. Not ALL…. But a big majority. That’s why it may seem political as well. They will have big representation on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]AS will eventually get washed down the drain.
How many more tournaments do these girls need to play this summer? To have the expense of $700 at the end of a very long summer for these girls![/quote

Wake up call for UA. Tryouts were terrible and talk about political! They need to get their act together, losing credibility and luster.

That’s why AS type showcases could take the talent and get the respect of the college coaches doing the recruiting. AS has to be more careful about selection process and not let it become political.

It may seem political when many YJs end up on the AS team. However, the facts on LI is that , most of the top players are on the YJ teams. Not ALL…. But a big majority. That’s why it may seem political as well. They will have big representation on the team.

AS for North Carolina was very political last year. Unfortunately, the same "club" is running tryouts again this year.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]AS will eventually get washed down the drain.
How many more tournaments do these girls need to play this summer? To have the expense of $700 at the end of a very long summer for these girls![/quote

Wake up call for UA. Tryouts were terrible and talk about political! They need to get their act together, losing credibility and luster.

That’s why AS type showcases could take the talent and get the respect of the college coaches doing the recruiting. AS has to be more careful about selection process and not let it become political.

It may seem political when many YJs end up on the AS team. However, the facts on LI is that , most of the top players are on the YJ teams. Not ALL…. But a big majority. That’s why it may seem political as well. They will have big representation on the team.

AS for North Carolina was very political last year. Unfortunately, the same "club" is running tryouts again this year.

That’s unfortunate. There has to be a better way to run the tryouts and selections process! Can’t be only 1 or 2 clubs represented for evaluation purposes. Need some outside evaluators as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]AS will eventually get washed down the drain.
How many more tournaments do these girls need to play this summer? To have the expense of $700 at the end of a very long summer for these girls![/quote

Wake up call for UA. Tryouts were terrible and talk about political! They need to get their act together, losing credibility and luster.

That’s why AS type showcases could take the talent and get the respect of the college coaches doing the recruiting. AS has to be more careful about selection process and not let it become political.

It may seem political when many YJs end up on the AS team. However, the facts on LI is that , most of the top players are on the YJ teams. Not ALL…. But a big majority. That’s why it may seem political as well. They will have big representation on the team.

AS for North Carolina was very political last year. Unfortunately, the same "club" is running tryouts again this year.

That’s unfortunate. There has to be a better way to run the tryouts and selections process! Can’t be only 1 or 2 clubs represented for evaluation purposes. Need some outside evaluators as well.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.... There will be complaints no matter what. Way back in 2015 my oldest went to the UA Underclass tryouts, there were close to 200 players grades 9 - 12 and they only had 1 team. No Yellow Jacket people involved in the tryout / evaluations or selections. 16 or 18 Yellow Jacket players made the roster of 24 and all you heard was how political it was.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]AS will eventually get washed down the drain.
How many more tournaments do these girls need to play this summer? To have the expense of $700 at the end of a very long summer for these girls![/quote

Wake up call for UA. Tryouts were terrible and talk about political! They need to get their act together, losing credibility and luster.

That’s why AS type showcases could take the talent and get the respect of the college coaches doing the recruiting. AS has to be more careful about selection process and not let it become political.

It may seem political when many YJs end up on the AS team. However, the facts on LI is that , most of the top players are on the YJ teams. Not ALL…. But a big majority. That’s why it may seem political as well. They will have big representation on the team.

AS for North Carolina was very political last year. Unfortunately, the same "club" is running tryouts again this year.

That’s unfortunate. There has to be a better way to run the tryouts and selections process! Can’t be only 1 or 2 clubs represented for evaluation purposes. Need some outside evaluators as well.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.... There will be complaints no matter what. Way back in 2015 my oldest went to the UA Underclass tryouts, there were close to 200 players grades 9 - 12 and they only had 1 team. No Yellow Jacket people involved in the tryout / evaluations or selections. 16 or 18 Yellow Jacket players made the roster of 24 and all you heard was how political it was.

The club I'm referencing has nowhere near the talent of YJ. It's a farce.

UA, Inside Lacrosse. AS are all very political. When yiu have selectors knowing who they are taking and parents involved in the selection process. I think everyone can agree not on the up and up. Some of names on list are.a joke. But the parents who know how to work the system win in the end. I love how one of the best 2021’s out there was never on any list and is gonna crush it in a top 10 program. Just goes to show you how narrow that list is.

Parents of clubs not represented at UA need to speak up. UA wants coaches and evaluators. They ASK blatantly for evaluators on their website. Make your coaches go!!! They dont want to put the time n? That’s a shame. It’s on the club to have representation. That’s it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents of clubs not represented at UA need to speak up. UA wants coaches and evaluators. They ASK blatantly for evaluators on their website. Make your coaches go!!! They dont want to put the time n? That’s a shame. It’s on the club to have representation. That’s it.

Except they are terrible with communication and this past summer at some of the tryouts, the evaluators who volunteered didn't hear anything until the night before the tryout so many couldn't drop all they were doing to make the it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA, Inside Lacrosse. AS are all very political. When yiu have selectors knowing who they are taking and parents involved in the selection process. I think everyone can agree not on the up and up. Some of names on list are.a joke. But the parents who know how to work the system win in the end. I love how one of the best 2021’s out there was never on any list and is gonna crush it in a top 10 program. Just goes to show you how narrow that list is.

Assume you are talking about SBU. Spallina knows the political games that are played and loves the fact that there are many great players that are not politically destined to make it through the selection process because they are not the coaches or directors chosen ones. He can identify talent and athleticism and has his pick of the overlooked, over shadowed players. He also seems to have some satisfaction watching some of the over -hyped players come up short.

Facts: Parents are and have evaluated! Facts: Parents work evaluators to help their daughters! Facts: There is top talent being missed by Inside Lacrosse. Facts: Every year there is talent that goes unnoticed and those kids are the ones who win in the end. Because they never stop working and crush it in College. You are absolutely correct about Spallina. The good coaches know it and the good coaches know when the dad is always involved getting his girl the cuddos. Let your girl be the one who goes unnoticed and crushes it later. Because true talent never stops working and doesn’t need the cudos and the awards backing them because their mom or dad made it happen with a few phone calls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts: Parents are and have evaluated! Facts: Parents work evaluators to help their daughters! Facts: There is top talent being missed by Inside Lacrosse. Facts: Every year there is talent that goes unnoticed and those kids are the ones who win in the end. Because they never stop working and crush it in College. You are absolutely correct about Spallina. The good coaches know it and the good coaches know when the dad is always involved getting his girl the cuddos. Let your girl be the one who goes unnoticed and crushes it later. Because true talent never stops working and doesn’t need the cudos and the awards backing them because their mom or dad made it happen with a few phone calls.

Oh stop it. Not a lot of talent gets overlooked and JS has brought in more Long Island players that were selected to Under Armour Underclass teams than any other program.

Parents have been complaining for years, the reality is that the large majority of players who get recognized by IL and UA go on to have good college careers at many of the top college programs.

Obviously if the majority of the players being recognized are also being offered spots by the coaches at the best college programs the players must be pretty darn good.

There are a lot more delusional parents than there are top notch players who get overlooked.

If the player is from LI the player will most likely not be overlooked by the best college programs. They get plenty of exposure.

Not many of the top players from LI get overlooked by IL or UA either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts: Parents are and have evaluated! Facts: Parents work evaluators to help their daughters! Facts: There is top talent being missed by Inside Lacrosse. Facts: Every year there is talent that goes unnoticed and those kids are the ones who win in the end. Because they never stop working and crush it in College. You are absolutely correct about Spallina. The good coaches know it and the good coaches know when the dad is always involved getting his girl the cuddos. Let your girl be the one who goes unnoticed and crushes it later. Because true talent never stops working and doesn’t need the cudos and the awards backing them because their mom or dad made it happen with a few phone calls.

Oh stop it. Not a lot of talent gets overlooked and JS has brought in more Long Island players that were selected to Under Armour Underclass teams than any other program.

Parents have been complaining for years, the reality is that the large majority of players who get recognized by IL and UA go on to have good college careers at many of the top college programs.

Obviously if the majority of the players being recognized are also being offered spots by the coaches at the best college programs the players must be pretty darn good.

There are a lot more delusional parents than there are top notch players who get overlooked.

If the player is from LI the player will most likely not be overlooked by the best college programs. They get plenty of exposure.

Not many of the top players from LI get overlooked by IL or UA either.

If a LI player is being overlooked, then probably not promoting themselves enough. Or, simply not as good as they think they are? Most LI girls will “get seen” by virtue of playing on a LI team. Maybe it’s the club they are on? Are they getting seen where they are going? The individual player has to step up and do a lot of individual stuff as well to make sure to get seen, especially if on a weaker club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bayport Blue point HS once again falls short to St. Paul in the national championship game! Congrats it was a great event!

Congratulations. and congratulations to the players who caught the attention of IL.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...bound-shurtleff-leads-20-standouts/58781

They also got beat by a bunch of 9th graders today….maybe bbp is not worth all the hype

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also got beat by a bunch of 9th graders today….maybe bbp is not worth all the hype

They are definitely not that great. I think they have a good amount of decent players, not big time stars. That is enough to do well in HS tournaments, where most teams just have no depth. Will be worse this year because HS sports are down in participation just like everything else. If a girl isn’t committed to play in college, or hopeful to commit, good chance she isn’t playing this year “just for fun”. Makes it hard for teams to do well. I think teams like NP, MS, and BBP have enough girls who can catch and pass to go far. It’s also easy to “catch an eye” when you’re not playing top competition. As for BBP being beat by a “bunch of 9th graders”. I’m not surprised. This is a top travel team with many talented girls just coming into their own. Not a fair comparison

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also got beat by a bunch of 9th graders today….maybe bbp is not worth all the hype

They are definitely not that great. I think they have a good amount of decent players, not big time stars. That is enough to do well in HS tournaments, where most teams just have no depth. Will be worse this year because HS sports are down in participation just like everything else. If a girl isn’t committed to play in college, or hopeful to commit, good chance she isn’t playing this year “just for fun”. Makes it hard for teams to do well. I think teams like NP, MS, and BBP have enough girls who can catch and pass to go far. It’s also easy to “catch an eye” when you’re not playing top competition. As for BBP being beat by a “bunch of 9th graders”. I’m not surprised. This is a top travel team with many talented girls just coming into their own. Not a fair comparison

The BBP team that lost indoors to a bunch of ninth graders was the Bayport 2 team with a bunch of ninth graders. But nice try. Highly doubt they beat the BBP 1 team.
BBP going on a few year run, starting right where they left off!
While the loss at Spooky Nook was to a better team.

That was the BBP Second team. Which is a bunch of underclass players also.
The BBP First team would not lose to them, nice try though. BBP has two teams in the league.

A "bunch of 9th graders" beat BBP 1st team last Sunday and St. Anthony's sophomores yesterday, in the semi-finals and finals, respectively.

[quote=Anonymous]A "bunch of 9th graders" beat BBP 1st team last Sunday and St. Anthony's sophomores yesterday, in the semi-finals and finals, respectively.[/quote

You mean YJ Spalina team!? Just say it, Not just a “9th grade pick up team”. They are a great team , I think #2 in the 25s age group in the country? The teams they were playing were also very good teams. Although, I Don’t think they had all their top players playing? The 10th grade SA team was a “pick up team” of sophomores. Was not a “true team” where these girls played together a lot. They were also missing some key 10th grade players from SA. Congrats to YJ Spalina on a great win!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A "bunch of 9th graders" beat BBP 1st team last Sunday and St. Anthony's sophomores yesterday, in the semi-finals and finals, respectively.

Wasn’t it the BBP 2nd team? And, a SA sophomore pick up team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A "bunch of 9th graders" beat BBP 1st team last Sunday and St. Anthony's sophomores yesterday, in the semi-finals and finals, respectively.

Wasn’t it the BBP 2nd team? And, a SA sophomore pick up team?

YJ beat BBP 1 in semi finals last week BBP also had the YJ kids from BBP So it was a suprise for some and then beat St Anthony’s group yesterday BBP 2 didn’t make the varsity playoffs but you already know that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A "bunch of 9th graders" beat BBP 1st team last Sunday and St. Anthony's sophomores yesterday, in the semi-finals and finals, respectively.

Wasn’t it the BBP 2nd team? And, a SA sophomore pick up team?

YJ beat BBP 1 in semi finals last week BBP also had the YJ kids from BBP So it was a suprise for some and then beat St Anthony’s group yesterday BBP 2 didn’t make the varsity playoffs but you already know that

This should come as no surprise, every YJ top team should be on level with the very top HS teams at right about this age, then be able to blow the HS teams out the last couple/few years. Think about it, it is a team of the very top players, a HS team would be lucky to have a small handful of top caliber girls on it. To also put another perspective on it, my daughters 9th grade YJ team played an an incoming recruit class team of a lower level D1 at an indoor tournament. Beat them horribly, like 15-2 or in that range.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A "bunch of 9th graders" beat BBP 1st team last Sunday and St. Anthony's sophomores yesterday, in the semi-finals and finals, respectively.

Wasn’t it the BBP 2nd team? And, a SA sophomore pick up team?

YJ beat BBP 1 in semi finals last week BBP also had the YJ kids from BBP So it was a suprise for some and then beat St Anthony’s group yesterday BBP 2 didn’t make the varsity playoffs but you already know that

This should come as no surprise, every YJ top team should be on level with the very top HS teams at right about this age, then be able to blow the HS teams out the last couple/few years. Think about it, it is a team of the very top players, a HS team would be lucky to have a small handful of top caliber girls on it. To also put another perspective on it, my daughters 9th grade YJ team played an an incoming recruit class team of a lower level D1 at an indoor tournament. Beat them horribly, like 15-2 or in that range.

Winter leagues for HS programs are typically missing the majority of their best players due to many reasons such as playing other sports, or just taking a rest. Amazing how anyone thinks it matters for anything other than getting some practice in. Not by any means a realistic representation of any teams talent. Please stop. Nobody cares about winter league scores

BBP had all of their players....including the 4 that are on that YJ team. BBP also a top HS in the country. The games are all filmed, watch it for yourself

Wouldn't it have been more surprising if BBP won with their winter town team vs. the very best 2025s on the island/country coached by a top 10 D1 coach?

Get a grip....

have Junior Open announced any 2025s attending? Thoughts on if this is worthwhile?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

have Junior Open announced any 2025s attending? Thoughts on if this is worthwhile?

Isn’t it a Junior open ? Why would sophomores play in it?

They opened it up for sophomores this year as well. Invitations went out to some of the top 2025 players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They opened it up for sophomores this year as well. Invitations went out to some of the top 2025 players.

Did they really only go out to "top players?" Genuinely curious. My daughter got one, but trying to figure out if a) it's worth it b) this wasn't just a mass email saying "you're a top prospect!" but every 2025 got the same email...

I know of three girls I would consider top players at the age group that got invitations (between three different clubs). I know some very strong players who did not get invites as far as they know. I am curious how many girls total they plan to take. Coaches for 2024 age group look good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know of three girls I would consider top players at the age group that got invitations (between three different clubs). I know some very strong players who did not get invites as far as they know. I am curious how many girls total they plan to take. Coaches for 2024 age group look good.

At least for the 2025's, it said 144.

They are taking 144 girls from 2025 class. Wonder how they picked these girls?

I’ve now gone to 3 College Bound Laxers events and they are run so well, with a lot of colleges in a small setting. Unsure of their set up but you need to read the details bc those nuances matter. My daughter just committed to attending their winter showcase and they are on the island.

Only 144 invites went out for the 2025's. LI Lax Journal had some input as did club directors. There may have been other inputs. Some girls filled out applications, others were just selected. Not sure of the "secret sauce".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are taking 144 girls from 2025 class. Wonder how they picked these girls?

For whatever it is worth, these numbered invite combines or whatever are a bit misleading. For example, all those years Under Armour was running the Under Armour 150, the truth of the matter was that none of the girls (considered the top girls) who made the Under Armour underclass teams went to the 150. It was always the next rung of players that went to 150. But there is so much stuff out there nowadays, it really does seem like shameless money grabs everywhere you look. And the lists and social media hype from all these events, leagues, clubs, list generating websites, trainers, videographers, photographers, etc…. All feasting. It is so out of control the last few years, it is painful to watch what this is becoming. Feel like my youngest was just old enough to avoid all this craziness, glad we are out. Good luck to all of you who still need to navigate through this as all this stuff continues to spiral out of control.

Of the 3 that I know on MD teams (Skywalker, M&D and Hero’s), none applied……were told picked by other club coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are taking 144 girls from 2025 class. Wonder how they picked these girls?

For whatever it is worth, these numbered invite combines or whatever are a bit misleading. For example, all those years Under Armour was running the Under Armour 150, the truth of the matter was that none of the girls (considered the top girls) who made the Under Armour underclass teams went to the 150. It was always the next rung of players that went to 150. But there is so much stuff out there nowadays, it really does seem like shameless money grabs everywhere you look. And the lists and social media hype from all these events, leagues, clubs, list generating websites, trainers, videographers, photographers, etc…. All feasting. It is so out of control the last few years, it is painful to watch what this is becoming. Feel like my youngest was just old enough to avoid all this craziness, glad we are out. Good luck to all of you who still need to navigate through this as all this stuff continues to spiral out of control.

Since the club owners getting involved now with all this extra stuff, it’s getting so much worse!! They are making more $s running the extra “showcases” and it’s getting crazy. They just seem to keep adding more and more and it’s hard to figure out what are money grabs and what are not! I think most are, however I think some are legit. Who knows! Ugh…

I agree that there are so many events now. Trying to decide which events to spend time, energy and $$ is hard. When it seems to be a “anyone can apply, pay and go” I’m not convinced that’s necessarily the best choice. At least for us.
I follow what girls are attending because if I know the competition is strong at the very least my kid is getting better playing against and with strong players. I also look to see who is training/coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are taking 144 girls from 2025 class. Wonder how they picked these girls?

For whatever it is worth, these numbered invite combines or whatever are a bit misleading. For example, all those years Under Armour was running the Under Armour 150, the truth of the matter was that none of the girls (considered the top girls) who made the Under Armour underclass teams went to the 150. It was always the next rung of players that went to 150. But there is so much stuff out there nowadays, it really does seem like shameless money grabs everywhere you look. And the lists and social media hype from all these events, leagues, clubs, list generating websites, trainers, videographers, photographers, etc…. All feasting. It is so out of control the last few years, it is painful to watch what this is becoming. Feel like my youngest was just old enough to avoid all this craziness, glad we are out. Good luck to all of you who still need to navigate through this as all this stuff continues to spiral out of control.

UAAA is run by Corrigan Sports and UA150 by Robinson Sports. They are unrelated to each other, but there have been some players who did UA150 who were (or very likely will be) UA Senior AA. There do seem to be so many of these events now and not worth the money or time to do them all, and maybe the overall talent for some gets watered down because there are more options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are taking 144 girls from 2025 class. Wonder how they picked these girls?

For whatever it is worth, these numbered invite combines or whatever are a bit misleading. For example, all those years Under Armour was running the Under Armour 150, the truth of the matter was that none of the girls (considered the top girls) who made the Under Armour underclass teams went to the 150. It was always the next rung of players that went to 150. But there is so much stuff out there nowadays, it really does seem like shameless money grabs everywhere you look. And the lists and social media hype from all these events, leagues, clubs, list generating websites, trainers, videographers, photographers, etc…. All feasting. It is so out of control the last few years, it is painful to watch what this is becoming. Feel like my youngest was just old enough to avoid all this craziness, glad we are out. Good luck to all of you who still need to navigate through this as all this stuff continues to spiral out of control.

UAAA is run by Corrigan Sports and UA150 by Robinson Sports. They are unrelated to each other, but there have been some players who did UA150 who were (or very likely will be) UA Senior AA. There do seem to be so many of these events now and not worth the money or time to do them all, and maybe the overall talent for some gets watered down because there are more options.

Corrigan Sports and Robinson Sports? Is One of them a top MD club owners company? Soon not to be a club owner (selling it?) The true money is running events and to get girls to pay $500. Let’s just hope some of these events are worth the price, and not just about making $s! Let’s try to keep these people who run these events honest and delivering what they say for the athletes. Lax for the Cure does a GREAT job at their tournament/event! ( It’s also for charity- so, even better:) )

Parents of kids who have attended the different events, are a good source to get info from if worth doing? Everyone will have difference of opinions on them, based on what they were looking for from the event. The input/experience is great to hear for other parents. A big reason I think many come to BOTC for? For some info./advice/experience from people who have been through this stuff. Thank you to those who share this stuff. It’s tough navigating all this and it seems to be getting worse. So many things, hard to know what is worth the time and money.

That indoor league is not a HS rules game so it’s hard to make a real comparison.First off it’s a smaller field,Face offs every 4 goals which is huge just due to the alternating possessions,a shot clock which is a great idea but not implemented on the HS level yet.Shorter game duration with a running clock.Overall really talented teams in the league and was well organized.Probably the best winter league on the island.Would highly recommended for anyone interested in top competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That indoor league is not a HS rules game so it’s hard to make a real comparison.First off it’s a smaller field,Face offs every 4 goals which is huge just due to the alternating possessions,a shot clock which is a great idea but not implemented on the HS level yet.Shorter game duration with a running clock.Overall really talented teams in the league and was well organized.Probably the best winter league on the island.Would highly recommended for anyone interested in top competition.

Great league. Surprised only one Nassau team played in the league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 144 invites went out for the 2025's. LI Lax Journal had some input as did club directors. There may have been other inputs. Some girls filled out applications, others were just selected. Not sure of the "secret sauce".

Junior Open *IS* LI Lax Journal which *IS* FLG Lacrosse. There's the secret sauce, I don't know.

Well they (LI Lax Journal/FLG) certainly didn't display any anti-YJ bias it would seem as there are a few girls from each of the yj top 3 teams invited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well they (LI Lax Journal/FLG) certainly didn't display any anti-YJ bias it would seem as there are a few girls from each of the yj top 3 teams invited.

If they dont take YJ kids there wont be enough talented players to send to the event. No "secret" that flg doesnt have many strong players. If they want to make money they need to get good players from outside clubs to attend. Plus, did you not see YJ is involved with the event?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That indoor league is not a HS rules game so it’s hard to make a real comparison.First off it’s a smaller field,Face offs every 4 goals which is huge just due to the alternating possessions,a shot clock which is a great idea but not implemented on the HS level yet.Shorter game duration with a running clock.Overall really talented teams in the league and was well organized.Probably the best winter league on the island.Would highly recommended for anyone interested in top competition.

Great league. Surprised only one Nassau team played in the league.

What league are you talking about?

The only “invite” that matters is the one to play at a great college program. The rest of this is nonsense. All of the social media is intended to rial people up into thinking they’re missing out on something, so they pay unreasonable amount of money to attend unnecessary events. If you play for a good club and get decent playing time, none of this matters. Stop being sheep!!

The Stony Brook winter league - through LILJ. It was a great experience for my daughter and her team.

It looked like a great league. Wish we could have had our HS team get out there it was a little too far to travel for some.
Maybe next year.

If your post is about the Junior Open, one of the Heros 2024 Green goalies is going (first wave) and I saw two 2024 M&D Black girls also chosen for the first wave. The 2024 SW Blue goalie was just announced. I’m assuming she was the 2nd wave because the girls “invited” during the first wave we had to accept by 1/31. 2nd wave started 2/1. They will continue inviting until the spots are full. The girls were supposedly hand picked after being seen at summer and fall tournaments. Not sure how true that is, just reporting what I was told by the organizer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are taking 144 girls from 2025 class. Wonder how they picked these girls?

For whatever it is worth, these numbered invite combines or whatever are a bit misleading. For example, all those years Under Armour was running the Under Armour 150, the truth of the matter was that none of the girls (considered the top girls) who made the Under Armour underclass teams went to the 150. It was always the next rung of players that went to 150. But there is so much stuff out there nowadays, it really does seem like shameless money grabs everywhere you look. And the lists and social media hype from all these events, leagues, clubs, list generating websites, trainers, videographers, photographers, etc…. All feasting. It is so out of control the last few years, it is painful to watch what this is becoming. Feel like my youngest was just old enough to avoid all this craziness, glad we are out. Good luck to all of you who still need to navigate through this as all this stuff continues to spiral out of control.

This post is 100% true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your post is about the Junior Open, one of the Heros 2024 Green goalies is going (first wave) and I saw two 2024 M&D Black girls also chosen for the first wave. The 2024 SW Blue goalie was just announced. I’m assuming she was the 2nd wave because the girls “invited” during the first wave we had to accept by 1/31. 2nd wave started 2/1. They will continue inviting until the spots are full. The girls were supposedly hand picked after being seen at summer and fall tournaments. Not sure how true that is, just reporting what I was told by the organizer.

They didn’t post everyone who they invited. I know several girls that got the invite and had to accept by 1/31 who aren’t posted on Instagram. Looks like it will be a great event with top talent and lots of colleges coaches.

What college coaches will be there?

Is the LILJ Best of the Island event worthwhile? Seems strange to be “selected” and the charged $300. Seems very expensive for a game especially if you’re already committed. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the LILJ Best of the Island event worthwhile? Seems strange to be “selected” and the charged $300. Seems very expensive for a game especially if you’re already committed. Thoughts?

Already committed? Then why care about the $300 Best of LI accolade? IMO…. Save the $s for books!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the LILJ Best of the Island event worthwhile? Seems strange to be “selected” and the charged $300. Seems very expensive for a game especially if you’re already committed. Thoughts?

Already committed? Then why care about the $300 Best of LI accolade? IMO…. Save the $s for books!

Exactly what I was thinking. Seems like a fun event. A shame it’s such a money grab. How do they justify $300 for a game? I remember when the boys used to have the Nassau-Suffolk game. I think it was about $80 which is reasonable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the LILJ Best of the Island event worthwhile? Seems strange to be “selected” and the charged $300. Seems very expensive for a game especially if you’re already committed. Thoughts?

Already committed? Then why care about the $300 Best of LI accolade? IMO…. Save the $s for books!

Exactly what I was thinking. Seems like a fun event. A shame it’s such a money grab. How do they justify $300 for a game? I remember when the boys used to have the Nassau-Suffolk game. I think it was about $80 which is reasonable.

$300 is ridiculous. I don’t know how inflation is trickling down to lacrosse , but it seems to be. Did refereeing and field cost go up!? I think more people are padding their pockets these days! It’s Making the sport even more elitist and that’s too bad!

NIKE/USA LACROSSE
HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS’ NATIONAL TOP 25
1. St. Paul’s (Md.)
2. Northport (N.Y.)
3. McDonogh (Md.)
4. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
5. Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.)
6. Stone Ridge (Md.)
7. Notre Dame Prep (Md.)
8. New Canaan (Conn.)
9. Darien (Conn.)
10. Glenelg Country (Md.)
11. Garden City (N.Y.)
12. Loyola Academy (Ill.)
13. Oak Knoll (N.J.)
14. St. Stephen’s & St. Agnes (Va.)
15. Georgetown Visitation (D.C.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Wantagh (N.Y.)
18. Milton (Ga.)
19. Agnes Irwin (Pa.)
20. Cicero-North Syracuse (N.Y.)
21. Moorestown (N.J.)
22. Baldwinsville (N.Y.)
23. Good Counsel (Md.)
24. Penn Charter (Pa.)
25. West Babylon (N.Y.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NIKE/USA LACROSSE
HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS’ NATIONAL TOP 25
1. St. Paul’s (Md.)
2. Northport (N.Y.)
3. McDonogh (Md.)
4. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
5. Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.)
6. Stone Ridge (Md.)
7. Notre Dame Prep (Md.)
8. New Canaan (Conn.)
9. Darien (Conn.)
10. Glenelg Country (Md.)
11. Garden City (N.Y.)
12. Loyola Academy (Ill.)
13. Oak Knoll (N.J.)
14. St. Stephen’s & St. Agnes (Va.)
15. Georgetown Visitation (D.C.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Wantagh (N.Y.)
18. Milton (Ga.)
19. Agnes Irwin (Pa.)
20. Cicero-North Syracuse (N.Y.)
21. Moorestown (N.J.)
22. Baldwinsville (N.Y.)
23. Good Counsel (Md.)
24. Penn Charter (Pa.)
25. West Babylon (N.Y.)

Not sure? How are these rankings calculated from last year during the pandemic year.?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

if you have money to burn....it couldn't hurt. then do it and good luck to your kid. But if you are really look to invest in your kids potential college looks, spend it on the prospect camps that your kid specifically want to go to. I have yet to hear of anyone that is recruited from any of these things..thats the advice Ive been given time and again....I think all the advice has been good on this page. Very thoughtful responses from people that have had their kid attend. Go see what they are saying on the Warrior games...Not just sour grapes. Its hard to navigate all this..

Thank you for this response! I have appreciated everyone’s responses on this page and have not considered it to be combative. Not sure what this person has seen as so negative. They obviously haven’t seen the other forums 😂

Yeah that's not true. Last year 6 kids on the same club were on the same UA team at the tryout in NJ. All six kids made it. They are all political. But if your kid is a stud, they'll make the team. That simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

if you have money to burn....it couldn't hurt. then do it and good luck to your kid. But if you are really look to invest in your kids potential college looks, spend it on the prospect camps that your kid specifically want to go to. I have yet to hear of anyone that is recruited from any of these things..thats the advice Ive been given time and again....I think all the advice has been good on this page. Very thoughtful responses from people that have had their kid attend. Go see what they are saying on the Warrior games...Not just sour grapes. Its hard to navigate all this..

Thank you for this response! I have appreciated everyone’s responses on this page and have not considered it to be combative. Not sure what this person has seen as so negative. They obviously haven’t seen the other forums 😂

Yeah that's not true. Last year 6 kids on the same club were on the same UA team at the tryout in NJ. All six kids made it. They are all political. But if your kid is a stud, they'll make the team. That simple.

I like the advice I read on a boys forum on recruiting.

Identify 10 schools that fit your child academically, socially, and that is a good fit for lacrosse for your child. Fill out the student/athlete questionnaires on their websites. Send out intro Email and highlight film. Attend the schools prospect camps and identify a couple of showcases that they will be attending.

My addition to that , is to make sure to email more than once! Email with follow ups if player has some new highlights, school, sport, social accolades that may get the school interested in the player as a good fit for their school.

Good Luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

if you have money to burn....it couldn't hurt. then do it and good luck to your kid. But if you are really look to invest in your kids potential college looks, spend it on the prospect camps that your kid specifically want to go to. I have yet to hear of anyone that is recruited from any of these things..thats the advice Ive been given time and again....I think all the advice has been good on this page. Very thoughtful responses from people that have had their kid attend. Go see what they are saying on the Warrior games...Not just sour grapes. Its hard to navigate all this..

Thank you for this response! I have appreciated everyone’s responses on this page and have not considered it to be combative. Not sure what this person has seen as so negative. They obviously haven’t seen the other forums 😂

Yeah that's not true. Last year 6 kids on the same club were on the same UA team at the tryout in NJ. All six kids made it. They are all political. But if your kid is a stud, they'll make the team. That simple.

I like the advice I read on a boys forum on recruiting.

Identify 10 schools that fit your child academically, socially, and that is a good fit for lacrosse for your child. Fill out the student/athlete questionnaires on their websites. Send out intro Email and highlight film. Attend the schools prospect camps and identify a couple of showcases that they will be attending.

My addition to that , is to make sure to email more than once! Email with follow ups if player has some new highlights, school, sport, social accolades that may get the school interested in the player as a good fit for their school.

Good Luck to all.

Sound advice.

I would recommend casting a wider net. Unless your daughter is truly a top tier player that just about every coach will be interested in. Target some reach schools (academic and lacrosse) but also try to identify the caliber of programs that might be interested in your daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just STOP with EVERYTHING is a "money grab"!!! EVERYTHING is going to cost money, it's your preference where you want to spend that money. Just because you don't to do that event or your daughter doesn't get "accepted" for that event, doesn't make it a "money grab"...ENOUGH

if you have money to burn....it couldn't hurt. then do it and good luck to your kid. But if you are really look to invest in your kids potential college looks, spend it on the prospect camps that your kid specifically want to go to. I have yet to hear of anyone that is recruited from any of these things..thats the advice Ive been given time and again....I think all the advice has been good on this page. Very thoughtful responses from people that have had their kid attend. Go see what they are saying on the Warrior games...Not just sour grapes. Its hard to navigate all this..

Thank you for this response! I have appreciated everyone’s responses on this page and have not considered it to be combative. Not sure what this person has seen as so negative. They obviously haven’t seen the other forums 😂

Yeah that's not true. Last year 6 kids on the same club were on the same UA team at the tryout in NJ. All six kids made it. They are all political. But if your kid is a stud, they'll make the team. That simple.

I like the advice I read on a boys forum on recruiting.

Identify 10 schools that fit your child academically, socially, and that is a good fit for lacrosse for your child. Fill out the student/athlete questionnaires on their websites. Send out intro Email and highlight film. Attend the schools prospect camps and identify a couple of showcases that they will be attending.

My addition to that , is to make sure to email more than once! Email with follow ups if player has some new highlights, school, sport, social accolades that may get the school interested in the player as a good fit for their school.

Good Luck to all.

Sound advice.

I would recommend casting a wider net. Unless your daughter is truly a top tier player that just about every coach will be interested in. Target some reach schools (academic and lacrosse) but also try to identify the caliber of programs that might be interested in your daughter.

Agree, and with over 500 colleges offering women’s lacrosse, may as well reach out to more than 10. Can’t hurt. Web Search says 550 colleges offer 4 year women’s lacrosse programs. Plenty of opportunities for every girl who wants to play in college. Good luck to all!

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

I don’t know how they are making that list? Are they asking HS/Club coaches about the players? I think You can send a girls name to them? How do they know what players are “the ones” to watch!? We should watch them all and let the playing speak for itself .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

Watered down is an understatement, how many are on the list? "Watch List" what are we supposed to be watching for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

Watered down is an understatement, how many are on the list? "Watch List" what are we supposed to be watching for?

Lol, agreed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NIKE/USA LACROSSE
HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS’ NATIONAL TOP 25
1. St. Paul’s (Md.)
2. Northport (N.Y.)
3. McDonogh (Md.)
4. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
5. Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.)
6. Stone Ridge (Md.)
7. Notre Dame Prep (Md.)
8. New Canaan (Conn.)
9. Darien (Conn.)
10. Glenelg Country (Md.)
11. Garden City (N.Y.)
12. Loyola Academy (Ill.)
13. Oak Knoll (N.J.)
14. St. Stephen’s & St. Agnes (Va.)
15. Georgetown Visitation (D.C.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Wantagh (N.Y.)
18. Milton (Ga.)
19. Agnes Irwin (Pa.)
20. Cicero-North Syracuse (N.Y.)
21. Moorestown (N.J.)
22. Baldwinsville (N.Y.)
23. Good Counsel (Md.)
24. Penn Charter (Pa.)
25. West Babylon (N.Y.)

Not sure? How are these rankings calculated from last year during the pandemic year.?

Probably reputation and performance of last full year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

I don’t know how they are making that list? Are they asking HS/Club coaches about the players? I think You can send a girls name to them? How do they know what players are “the ones” to watch!? We should watch them all and let the playing speak for itself .

Yes let the stats speak for the girls......this list was littered with girls who weren't even on their Varsity team last year....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

I don’t know how they are making that list? Are they asking HS/Club coaches about the players? I think You can send a girls name to them? How do they know what players are “the ones” to watch!? We should watch them all and let the playing speak for itself .

Yes let the stats speak for the girls......this list was littered with girls who weren't even on their Varsity team last year....

All I’m watching is the 2024 cry babies whose mommy and daddy complained to get them added to the updated list. As if the original list wasn’t ridiculous enough they added in a handful of kids even worse than those on the list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

I don’t know how they are making that list? Are they asking HS/Club coaches about the players? I think You can send a girls name to them? How do they know what players are “the ones” to watch!? We should watch them all and let the playing speak for itself .

Yes let the stats speak for the girls......this list was littered with girls who weren't even on their Varsity team last year....

Stats? HS stats mean very little and are in no way any indication of a players actual ability, athleticism, skill, ability etc... In too many cases competition is just too weak so HS play is not a very good barometer for measuring how good a player actually is. That said, having a "watch List" with approximately 200 players on it is just foolish. What are they attempting to represent with this list? But hey, now when little Bella doesn't make Under Armour the parents can cry foul because she was on the watch list. Sorry to pooh pooh the list but it is just too many players.

What’s the goal of any website? To get eyeballs! Guess what, they got them!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

I don’t know how they are making that list? Are they asking HS/Club coaches about the players? I think You can send a girls name to them? How do they know what players are “the ones” to watch!? We should watch them all and let the playing speak for itself .

Yes let the stats speak for the girls......this list was littered with girls who weren't even on their Varsity team last year....

Stats? HS stats mean very little and are in no way any indication of a players actual ability, athleticism, skill, ability etc... In too many cases competition is just too weak so HS play is not a very good barometer for measuring how good a player actually is. That said, having a "watch List" with approximately 200 players on it is just foolish. What are they attempting to represent with this list? But hey, now when little Bella doesn't make Under Armour the parents can cry foul because she was on the watch list. Sorry to pooh pooh the list but it is just too many players.

Should be 10 girls per grade. Period! Or could be done like a pre season 1st, 2nd team because that’s how Newsday does post season. That’s it! Any more is foolish

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

I don’t know how they are making that list? Are they asking HS/Club coaches about the players? I think You can send a girls name to them? How do they know what players are “the ones” to watch!? We should watch them all and let the playing speak for itself .

Yes let the stats speak for the girls......this list was littered with girls who weren't even on their Varsity team last year....

Stats? HS stats mean very little and are in no way any indication of a players actual ability, athleticism, skill, ability etc... In too many cases competition is just too weak so HS play is not a very good barometer for measuring how good a player actually is. That said, having a "watch List" with approximately 200 players on it is just foolish. What are they attempting to represent with this list? But hey, now when little Bella doesn't make Under Armour the parents can cry foul because she was on the watch list. Sorry to pooh pooh the list but it is just too many players.

Should be 10 girls per grade. Period! Or could be done like a pre season 1st, 2nd team because that’s how Newsday does post season. That’s it! Any more is foolish

I think it’s crazier that 5 kids were added a day after posting. They didn’t make the original giant list but that wasn’t hint enough maybe they aren’t a top star of their class

like any list, many deserving kids, many undeserving. I've seen some club coaches submitted the entire team, some kids who played JV last year and don't even start on their own club team. Those things ruin these lists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax journal watch list came out yesterday and it’s clear today that parents complained to get more additions. What’s the point of these lists if they get watered down? Does anyone care about them? I can’t wrap my head around it

I don’t know how they are making that list? Are they asking HS/Club coaches about the players? I think You can send a girls name to them? How do they know what players are “the ones” to watch!? We should watch them all and let the playing speak for itself .

Yes let the stats speak for the girls......this list was littered with girls who weren't even on their Varsity team last year....

Stats? HS stats mean very little and are in no way any indication of a players actual ability, athleticism, skill, ability etc... In too many cases competition is just too weak so HS play is not a very good barometer for measuring how good a player actually is. That said, having a "watch List" with approximately 200 players on it is just foolish. What are they attempting to represent with this list? But hey, now when little Bella doesn't make Under Armour the parents can cry foul because she was on the watch list. Sorry to pooh pooh the list but it is just too many players.

Should be 10 girls per grade. Period! Or could be done like a pre season 1st, 2nd team because that’s how Newsday does post season. That’s it! Any more is foolish

10 is probably a little light.... 200 way too many.... They should survey the College Coaches from the 15 to 20 best college programs, the programs that are always in the Top 10 - 20, it's basically the same schools every year. Obviously those coaches have proven that they can identify the best players. Ask them what players from Long Island will you be extending an offer to? I'm joking of course, it will never happen but if id did we would have a pretty accurate list of the top 20 - 30 players in each grade from LI.

All I’m watching is the 2024 cry babies whose mommy and daddy complained to get them added to the updated list. As if the original list wasn’t ridiculous enough they added in a handful of kids even worse than those on the list[/quote]

Wow so sad that adults act this way. You do get that it’s a list for teenage girls right. All your doing is knocking children down for no reason. If you don’t agree I can understand that but to be so immature and nasty about 15/16 year old girls is just pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

like any list, many deserving kids, many undeserving. I've seen some club coaches submitted the entire team, some kids who played JV last year and don't even start on their own club team. Those things ruin these lists.

I don’t think these were submitted by clubs. It seems to have been submitted by school coaches as well as kids seen by the company. I only say that because some club coaches kids weren’t on it originally until a few days later.

I was told it was generated based off of the last years High School Spring season, Winter league and LILJ showcase event. So all these kids who did not play varsity last year or attend these events is odd that they are on these lists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was told it was generated based off of the last years High School Spring season, Winter league and LILJ showcase event. So all these kids who did not play varsity last year or attend these events is odd that they are on these lists.

Also odd that kids on c and d teams who were on JV made it.

Newsday’s list are mostly political.Definitely not the best players on the island let alone their own team.As for determining who makes the list stats on the varsity level are and should be the determining factors.Along with the winter league simply due to exposure and body of work.Yes the list is way to big(should be 50 spread out across the 4 positions on the field)throughout Long Island.The underclassmen rankings are harder to do because of the lack of varsity experience and depend more on coaches referral.Summer tournaments and showcases have been watered down.Years ago you had to be accepted,now it’s just the first to sign up and give the dough so they can’t be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsday’s list are mostly political.Definitely not the best players on the island let alone their own team.As for determining who makes the list stats on the varsity level are and should be the determining factors.Along with the winter league simply due to exposure and body of work.Yes the list is way to big(should be 50 spread out across the 4 positions on the field)throughout Long Island.The underclassmen rankings are harder to do because of the lack of varsity experience and depend more on coaches referral.Summer tournaments and showcases have been watered down.Years ago you had to be accepted,now it’s just the first to sign up and give the dough so they can’t be taken seriously.

Newsday lists for girls and boys is a complete joke. Larger schools dominate the list as do stat stackers

if you were not on Varsity last season and do not start on your club team, you should not be on the list. Period !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if you were not on Varsity last season and do not start on your club team, you should not be on the list. Period !

Such a dense thing to say! Everyone on here knows that not every varsity team the same levels. Some are easy to make s freshman and sophomores, and others almost impossible. Can’t judge by Varsity comment. Apples and Oranges.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if you were not on Varsity last season and do not start on your club team, you should not be on the list. Period !

list is usually upper class kids. mostly juniors and seniors and the top top sophomores.
Very rarely see freshman on there.
I agree 100 is maybe too many
I would say top 50 we can all agree on. next 50 we can argue for 200 girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if you were not on Varsity last season and do not start on your club team, you should not be on the list. Period !

Agreed! This list is silly and meaningless. Do something on the field! We all know who those girls are, and are not. I don’t see the point of having girls who can’t catch and throw and are a liability on the field put on a “watch list”. That are we watching for? How many times they turn the ball over?

Best players on Long Island get pulled up in 8th and 9th grade regardless of school size and teams ability, everyone knows that. Whoever posted that comment regarding " Apples and Oranges" is delusional. I guess you made that comment because your kid made the LILJ list and did not play varsity last year.

That comment has to be from a dad who's kid made the watch list who was on JV last year. Apples and Oranges LOL. High School programs pull up the quality players no matter what level the team is. If a Program see's talent they bring that player up, regardless of the programs ranking or ability. Your comment was the epitome of dense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best players on Long Island get pulled up in 8th and 9th grade regardless of school size and teams ability, everyone knows that. Whoever posted that comment regarding " Apples and Oranges" is delusional. I guess you made that comment because your kid made the LILJ list and did not play varsity last year.

Not true. Some district don’t pull up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best players on Long Island get pulled up in 8th and 9th grade regardless of school size and teams ability, everyone knows that. Whoever posted that comment regarding " Apples and Oranges" is delusional. I guess you made that comment because your kid made the LILJ list and did not play varsity last year.

And that is exactly why HS means nothing when it comes to evaluating players. HS stats and accolades are not a very good measure of a players ability or potential. The competition is inconsistent and in many cases flat out weak. Many times seniors running by 8th and 9th graders to score goals, many times players running by players who simply are not very strong etc... Club lacrosse is where you can tell who the players are. I have seen girls that put up big numbers in HS go to mediocre college teams and not get on the field. College coaches recruit off the club circuit, they want to see players compete against strong competition, they do not care if you can run by a non athletic player. Congratulations to all of the players named to the list but 90% will not be getting calls from any Top 10 teams that is not knocking the players, it is reality. If your daughter is on a strong club team playing against the other top club teams and standing out she will receive offers from the top programs, if she holds her own she will get plenty of attention probably not from the top programs but she will be fine. BTW, this holds true in just about all sports, Club / AAU / Travel, whatever you want to call it is where the competition is and is where colleges recruit from. Football being the exception.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That comment has to be from a dad who's kid made the watch list who was on JV last year. Apples and Oranges LOL. High School programs pull up the quality players no matter what level the team is. If a Program see's talent they bring that player up, regardless of the programs ranking or ability. Your comment was the epitome of dense.

Nope! You are the truly Dense one. The top HS Varsity programs have more girls that could be varsity level players anywhere else, but there are no open spots at those schools. Due to the amount of talent and high level of players they have there.

St. Anthony’s is a good example of that. Their JVA team could beat many LI HS Varsity programs. So, you are wrong. Many HS Varsity teams are made up of B players, because that’s what they have to pick from. The JVA players at SA would be on most Varsity teams anywhere else! There are other schools like that as well. You don’t see many Freshman or Sophomores on those Varsity teams!

Whoever says or even thinks that varsity in the talent rich long island and I can speak for Suffolk is not a good measure and watered down is delusional and caught up in the money grab of travel.Our schedule has 2 of the top 10 teams in the Country and high Quality section xi teams all throughout.Don’t know if any summer tournaments or even nationals that have that much talent pooled together.If your kid hasn’t played varsity(not made the team and watched)then you simply don’t know what your talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoever says or even thinks that varsity in the talent rich long island and I can speak for Suffolk is not a good measure and watered down is delusional and caught up in the money grab of travel.Our schedule has 2 of the top 10 teams in the Country and high Quality section xi teams all throughout.Don’t know if any summer tournaments or even nationals that have that much talent pooled together.If your kid hasn’t played varsity(not made the team and watched)then you simply don’t know what your talking about.

Not all LI HS Varsity teams are made up of top level players. You are delusional. The top summer tournaments like LAX For The Cure, G8 , etc …does have the top talent playing there on elite teams! That’s where the college coaches are more likely scouting and recruiting! Not at HS games.

Sounds a daddy is upset !! Nobody ever said anything about the talent of school ball. There might be a few teams that don’t pull up , but everyone knows if the kid is good, they are not wasting her talent. So yes 90 percent of the varsity teams will pull up if the kid has talent, regardless of the talent level on the team. Stop making excuses !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoever says or even thinks that varsity in the talent rich long island and I can speak for Suffolk is not a good measure and watered down is delusional and caught up in the money grab of travel.Our schedule has 2 of the top 10 teams in the Country and high Quality section xi teams all throughout.Don’t know if any summer tournaments or even nationals that have that much talent pooled together.If your kid hasn’t played varsity(not made the team and watched)then you simply don’t know what your talking about.

Talent rich Long Island? HS Rankings? Long Island will send fewer than 30 players to Top 20 caliber teams each year and probably fewer than 15 kids to Top 10 caliber teams each year and those players are spread out across many HS teams. When the top two of three club teams at any age group from Long Island compete against the top club teams from other areas, that is where the best competition is. YJ does not fill their top team with all girls from the same HS.

What do you mean spread out.Try playing top teams week in and week out.
.Sayville,BBP,WB,ESM,Mt.Sinai,Swr,Comsewogue,Smithtown,Westhampton.Just a few players spread out?Varsity isn’t a pay to play competition.Any kid would rather have a county or state title for there school than any medal for a recruiting tournament that you will be overcharged for.Not sure if we are talking about the same thing.This isn’t JV and your kid starts on their travel club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you mean spread out.Try playing top teams week in and week out.
.Sayville,BBP,WB,ESM,Mt.Sinai,Swr,Comsewogue,Smithtown,Westhampton.Just a few players spread out?Varsity isn’t a pay to play competition.Any kid would rather have a county or state title for there school than any medal for a recruiting tournament that you will be overcharged for.Not sure if we are talking about the same thing.This isn’t JV and your kid starts on their travel club

General theme on here appears to be to change the subject or move the goal posts... Nobody said anything about winning a championship with HS Team was not something special.

The Talent is absolutely spread out as well as being broken down by grad year, 8th 9th and 10th graders all over the place. The stronger teams in suffolk usually have 1 or 2 kids maybe 3 per grad year that could be considered legit top tier players. Some grad years may have none. Compare that to a one of M&D's Top Teams, compare it to a YJ top team. The top talent is spread out all the top players are not on one team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you mean spread out.Try playing top teams week in and week out.
.Sayville,BBP,WB,ESM,Mt.Sinai,Swr,Comsewogue,Smithtown,Westhampton.Just a few players spread out?Varsity isn’t a pay to play competition.Any kid would rather have a county or state title for there school than any medal for a recruiting tournament that you will be overcharged for.Not sure if we are talking about the same thing.This isn’t JV and your kid starts on their travel club

Long Island people are funny. They tend to think that the lacrosse world revolves around Long Island and that all of the best players come from Long Island (which they do not). Just look at the recruiting classes every year at the most competitive universities, the vast majority of players come from someplace other than Long Island (probably 90% come from other areas). That is what made UA Underclass so good it brought in the majority of the best players from around the country to compete. When the best club teams play it's the same thing, many of the girls competing will be heading to the very best college programs. As an earlier post indicated it's done in every sport the best kids have to find a venue to compete against the best competition and that is where the college coaches go to recruit. The UNC coach wants to see prospects compete against players that will be heading to BC, Northwestern, Md etc...

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Regarding “ Making” Varsity and playing varsity at LI HIghschools. It absolutely matters the HS. Just because someone on Varsity at one school, it does not make them better than a girl on JV at a better lacrosse school. I know of many, where that is the case. Just depends on the lacrosse level at the HS. My daughters club team is much better and more competitive than her HS varsity team! Just matters what HS girl is in. That is exactly why she plays club. The highschool team is not great. That may not be the case for girls in hotbed HS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Sorry, It does not appear that you have a firm grasp on reality. I just looked quickly at the college commitment list for the Yellow Jackets 2022 class. Here is a quick breakdown.

18 Soffolk County HS Represented.
37 total commits from suffolk

4 Top Tier commits ( Top 20 type programs) from Suffolk County
also, 4 suffolk kids committed to SBU.

the balance of players going to to a variety of schools acrosse DI, DII and DIII.
Sorry but I do not believe that there is a HS in Suffolk that has 7 or more seniors on the roster heading to Top 20 DI schools. More like 1 or 2.
The Top Club teams do have several more top notch players.

Obviously the Long Island / Suffolk County talent is spread out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Regarding “ Making” Varsity and playing varsity at LI HIghschools. It absolutely matters the HS. Just because someone on Varsity at one school, it does not make them better than a girl on JV at a better lacrosse school. I know of many, where that is the case. Just depends on the lacrosse level at the HS. My daughters club team is much better and more competitive than her HS varsity team! Just matters what HS girl is in. That is exactly why she plays club. The highschool team is not great. That may not be the case for girls in hotbed HS

Not a knock but way to many kids sit on JV or on varsity bench till Senior year at prestigious stacked lacrosse high schools. Many even as juniors play very little and get pushed back to bench as senior by rising powerhouse fr / soph / jr. While it may be great to make playoffs or win county titles eventually kid needs to play. Kid needs to lead in games and get it done not just watch powerhouse ( insert HS ) steamroll teams while they clap. Otherwise sadly they’ll still be clapping at the college they attend from same spot they were on HS team. Being a backup or 3rd string QB on the best team is worse than starter on weaker team. Team sports are meant to be played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Regarding “ Making” Varsity and playing varsity at LI HIghschools. It absolutely matters the HS. Just because someone on Varsity at one school, it does not make them better than a girl on JV at a better lacrosse school. I know of many, where that is the case. Just depends on the lacrosse level at the HS. My daughters club team is much better and more competitive than her HS varsity team! Just matters what HS girl is in. That is exactly why she plays club. The highschool team is not great. That may not be the case for girls in hotbed HS

Not a knock but way to many kids sit on JV or on varsity bench till Senior year at prestigious stacked lacrosse high schools. Many even as juniors play very little and get pushed back to bench as senior by rising powerhouse fr / soph / jr. While it may be great to make playoffs or win county titles eventually kid needs to play. Kid needs to lead in games and get it done not just watch powerhouse ( insert HS ) steamroll teams while they clap. Otherwise sadly they’ll still be clapping at the college they attend from same spot they were on HS team. Being a backup or 3rd string QB on the best team is worse than starter on weaker team. Team sports are meant to be played.

There are backups on every team. If you only value playing time you really don’t understand team sports.

No offense says the backup for a career. Backups aren’t starters. Odds are they’ll never be cause playing is the best practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No offense says the backup for a career. Backups aren’t starters. Odds are they’ll never be cause playing is the best practice.

FYI, Lacrosse isn’t a career either. Some girls just want to be part of a team and hoping lacrosse will help open some doors for them and they enjoy being part of a team. Those girls May even just play for the club team in college, and put school first. Wow, go figure. Every girls goals are different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No offense says the backup for a career. Backups aren’t starters. Odds are they’ll never be cause playing is the best practice.

FYI, Lacrosse isn’t a career either. Some girls just want to be part of a team and hoping lacrosse will help open some doors for them and they enjoy being part of a team. Those girls May even just play for the club team in college, and put school first. Wow, go figure. Every girls goals are different.

Can’t have it both ways. Are we extolling the dominant team that’s why I’m a backup cause I’m actually great or there’s no future in lax so being a backup on best team gets me better school? The point was playing. There are no backups in D1 or competitive D2/3 lacrosse. Just players who haven’t taken your job yet cause you are playing better.
I guess my point was you gotta play now if you want to have a chance to play later. I always thought we played sports in HS to play not be on a better team. Never advocated to be the best on the worst team but not playing any meaningful minutes won’t help getting on any programs including the better academic ones.
Sitting on the bench is far from ideal for any goals kid wants other than t-shirt they won division or counties.
In my experience top travel gets you minutes of quality but that’s not a HS goal, they win.
I guess I take it different that sitting on the bench and winning a t shirt is better than fun and sweat of playing on a team YOU make good. Better college being end goal but enjoying the race there should as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoever says or even thinks that varsity in the talent rich long island and I can speak for Suffolk is not a good measure and watered down is delusional and caught up in the money grab of travel.Our schedule has 2 of the top 10 teams in the Country and high Quality section xi teams all throughout.Don’t know if any summer tournaments or even nationals that have that much talent pooled together.If your kid hasn’t played varsity(not made the team and watched)then you simply don’t know what your talking about.

Well said..HS still counts folks and your HS coach matters when it comes to recruiting. Dont be so ignorant

Most High schools play their best players to win games it’s that simple.If you HS coach doesn’t then they shouldn’t be the coach.That’s the difference between travel which is a pay to play and varsity school ball which is the best kids play.No money involved on the High school level so coaches don’t have to worry about how much playing time and over rostered travel team geared to making money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoever says or even thinks that varsity in the talent rich long island and I can speak for Suffolk is not a good measure and watered down is delusional and caught up in the money grab of travel.Our schedule has 2 of the top 10 teams in the Country and high Quality section xi teams all throughout.Don’t know if any summer tournaments or even nationals that have that much talent pooled together.If your kid hasn’t played varsity(not made the team and watched)then you simply don’t know what your talking about.

Well said..HS still counts folks and your HS coach matters when it comes to recruiting. Dont be so ignorant

I think it Depends on the HS? Don’t see many college coaches at HS games these days? Maybe the tippy top ranked HS games?

Well that depends what HS you go to!

Very few HS coaches have a impact in recruiting, especially on LI

Last season we had coaches at every late season game. Many times they are there watching their commits but they are there watching. Power conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Sorry, It does not appear that you have a firm grasp on reality. I just looked quickly at the college commitment list for the Yellow Jackets 2022 class. Here is a quick breakdown.

18 Soffolk County HS Represented.
37 total commits from suffolk

4 Top Tier commits ( Top 20 type programs) from Suffolk County
also, 4 suffolk kids committed to SBU.

the balance of players going to to a variety of schools acrosse DI, DII and DIII.
Sorry but I do not believe that there is a HS in Suffolk that has 7 or more seniors on the roster heading to Top 20 DI schools. More like 1 or 2.
The Top Club teams do have several more top notch players.

Obviously the Long Island / Suffolk County talent is spread out.

This line of thinking is flawed because it is isolating it to just the Seniors. Long Island is so talent rich there is a deep Junior, Sophomore, and at some schools Freshman class who have top players/contributors at the Varsity level. I do understand some high schools are not fortunate to have such an embarrassment of riches, but there are enough schools to go around in Suffolk that do maintain this scenario, that it is indeed a talent-rich place to play. And to some of the other posters points, its at truer measure because the coaches play the best players because they want to win. There are no politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoever says or even thinks that varsity in the talent rich long island and I can speak for Suffolk is not a good measure and watered down is delusional and caught up in the money grab of travel.Our schedule has 2 of the top 10 teams in the Country and high Quality section xi teams all throughout.Don’t know if any summer tournaments or even nationals that have that much talent pooled together.If your kid hasn’t played varsity(not made the team and watched)then you simply don’t know what your talking about.

Well said..HS still counts folks and your HS coach matters when it comes to recruiting. Dont be so ignorant

HS coaches for many players do not matter at all when it comes to recruiting.

The chances of going to a top 20 D1 college is very slim if you don’t start on a good HS team.And stats do matter.Some of you need to realize that behind the YJ’s and top gun caliber teams are successful HS coaches and programs.Some even run by D1coaches.In example Northport,Wantaugh and MS to name a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Whoever says or even thinks that

Well said..HS still counts folks and your HS coach matters when it comes to recruiting. Dont be so ignorant

HS coaches for many players do not matter at all when it comes to recruiting.

HS coaches matter because they are the 2nd opinion the college coach gets. HS play matters cause you learn to be good and play the actual sport on a team trying to win offense, defense and team concepts. Learning to excel and lead during meaningful games that you are relied on to win as a huge part of that team. Sometimes against older talent and coaches who plan schemes to stop you. I’d agree travel is bigger part in making you that better skilled player besides massive self motivated training.
Your HS season is more akin to a college season than 4-5 weekend tourneys over the summer. Learning those concepts on a good team doing what it takes to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Whoever says or even thinks that

Well said..HS still counts folks and your HS coach matters when it comes to recruiting. Dont be so ignorant

HS coaches for many players do not matter at all when it comes to recruiting.

HS coaches matter because they are the 2nd opinion the college coach gets. HS play matters cause you learn to be good and play the actual sport on a team trying to win offense, defense and team concepts. Learning to excel and lead during meaningful games that you are relied on to win as a huge part of that team. Sometimes against older talent and coaches who plan schemes to stop you. I’d agree travel is bigger part in making you that better skilled player besides massive self motivated training.
Your HS season is more akin to a college season than 4-5 weekend tourneys over the summer. Learning those concepts on a good team doing what it takes to win.

Anyone who fills out any forms for lacrosse stuff knows, that you are asked for HS coach name and email and Club Coach name and email.

There is a reason. HS coach input is very important. The HS coach has important perspective about a player as a teammate and as a student. They spend more time with the player day in , day out for a long HS lacrosse season. I think They get a better look into personality of how a player handles good and bad days. Strength of character. Probably even more important information a college coach needs to find a good recruit and teammate.

Finally some people with a real sense of the game.You hit it on the head with the last 2 posts.High School is and should be the heartbeat of Lacrosse.Both my kids played D1,my son got heavily recruited from the Suffolk all star game and only his HS coach was asked about him and my daughter got more looks from showcases and prospect days than travel tournaments.Although getting recruited during covid proved a little more challenging with university restrictions and dead periods but unless your travel coach has major contacts which some due most will tell a college coach what they want to hear about a paying customer and promote their club with commitments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No offense says the backup for a career. Backups aren’t starters. Odds are they’ll never be cause playing is the best practice.

FYI, Lacrosse isn’t a career either. Some girls just want to be part of a team and hoping lacrosse will help open some doors for them and they enjoy being part of a team. Those girls May even just play for the club team in college, and put school first. Wow, go figure. Every girls goals are different.

Best post in a long time !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very few HS coaches have a impact in recruiting, especially on LI

Completely wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally some people with a real sense of the game.You hit it on the head with the last 2 posts.High School is and should be the heartbeat of Lacrosse.Both my kids played D1,my son got heavily recruited from the Suffolk all star game and only his HS coach was asked about him and my daughter got more looks from showcases and prospect days than travel tournaments.Although getting recruited during covid proved a little more challenging with university restrictions and dead periods but unless your travel coach has major contacts which some due most will tell a college coach what they want to hear about a paying customer and promote their club with commitments.

Finally a string of sensible and educated responses. THANK YOU

Travel lacrosse has become a huge money grab.I’m passed that as a parent now but feel it’s turned way more into a business now than the love of the game.to be honest the tournaments and showcases have been watered down with to many teams accepted without being vetted,no playoffs just pool play and multiple locations for one tournament.That’s a recruiting nightmare for college coaches to jump around like that.Back in the day we used to rate them by single A,double AA brackets and games would be closely contested.now all you see lopsided scores which does neither team or player any good.Just the fact that travel rosters are at 24-26 players.All that means is your playing half a game or splitting major playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel lacrosse has become a huge money grab.I’m passed that as a parent now but feel it’s turned way more into a business now than the love of the game.to be honest the tournaments and showcases have been watered down with to many teams accepted without being vetted,no playoffs just pool play and multiple locations for one tournament.That’s a recruiting nightmare for college coaches to jump around like that.Back in the day we used to rate them by single A,double AA brackets and games would be closely contested.now all you see lopsided scores which does neither team or player any good.Just the fact that travel rosters are at 24-26 players.All that means is your playing half a game or splitting major playing time.

The travel clubs are doing g a huge disservice to the girls by chasing $$$s for themselves. Not what’s best for their teams or girls. I know it’s a business, but they are getting greedy!!! They were making plenty of profits before getting so involved in the “management”! Independent organizations should run the events and showcases.

They all seem to be involved with their hands in the pockets of the showcases now too. A lot of the stuff seems like a conflict of interest and money grabs more than usual. $700 price tag to do a showcase is becoming normal and that’s just crazy. Making it even more of an elitist sport. It’s a shame.

Breaking it down for you folks even further is the hotels and vendors jacking their prices up for tournament weekends.It’s kind of called extortion when you have to patronize a list of hotels at inflated prices or your roster won’t be accepted.And when did tourney t’s cost $35 bucks.Get ready to open your wallet for this summer circuit cause inflation has hit every market out there.I justified it back when we did it as being memory rich.Enjoy the ride you make it what it is.Only comes around once usually in a lifetime.Believe me when I tell you there are no tomorrow’s.It’s all over in the blink of an eye.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Breaking it down for you folks even further is the hotels and vendors jacking their prices up for tournament weekends.It’s kind of called extortion when you have to patronize a list of hotels at inflated prices or your roster won’t be accepted.And when did tourney t’s cost $35 bucks.Get ready to open your wallet for this summer circuit cause inflation has hit every market out there.I justified it back when we did it as being memory rich.Enjoy the ride you make it what it is.Only comes around once usually in a lifetime.Believe me when I tell you there are no tomorrow’s.It’s all over in the blink of an eye.

Thank you. I was told recently by a parent who has An older daughter and is done with the travel clubs and tournaments, to enjoy every single second / minute on the NJ turnpike, even in the worst traffic coming home On a Sunday night!

Embrace the time with your daughter, because as she tells me she would do anything for another one of those long tournament weekends with her daughter and that long drive home on a Sunday night! She also says like the previous poster, it felt like a blink of an eye. So, enjoy people and remember life is about moments! It will be money well spent, if you can afford to do it. Good luck to all the girls in their upcoming seasons!

When do NYSR tryout results come out?

they were sent out, hopefully you will get one. check your email

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they were sent out, hopefully you will get one. check your email

I think only some teams were sent out

One of my favorite tournaments and places is Lake Placid.If you get the opportunity to do that one jump on it,some of my best family lax memories were at the Golden Arrow and the kids played on pristine field settings.The best part about it was it was mostly HS teams and non recruiting.There were college coaches there but it was a no pressure tourney that the kids just loved.We took over the town.

It’s a mass email, everyone should get the email at the same time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Breaking it down for you folks even further is the hotels and vendors jacking their prices up for tournament weekends.It’s kind of called extortion when you have to patronize a list of hotels at inflated prices or your roster won’t be accepted.And when did tourney t’s cost $35 bucks.Get ready to open your wallet for this summer circuit cause inflation has hit every market out there.I justified it back when we did it as being memory rich.Enjoy the ride you make it what it is.Only comes around once usually in a lifetime.Believe me when I tell you there are no tomorrow’s.It’s all over in the blink of an eye.

Thank you. I was told recently by a parent who has An older daughter and is done with the travel clubs and tournaments, to enjoy every single second / minute on the NJ turnpike, even in the worst traffic coming home On a Sunday night!

Embrace the time with your daughter, because as she tells me she would do anything for another one of those long tournament weekends with her daughter and that long drive home on a Sunday night! She also says like the previous poster, it felt like a blink of an eye. So, enjoy people and remember life is about moments! It will be money well spent, if you can afford to do it. Good luck to all the girls in their upcoming seasons!

Life is about moments. So true in every sense of these words. People enjoy your daughters and forget about all of this nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Sorry, It does not appear that you have a firm grasp on reality. I just looked quickly at the college commitment list for the Yellow Jackets 2022 class. Here is a quick breakdown.

18 Soffolk County HS Represented.
37 total commits from suffolk

4 Top Tier commits ( Top 20 type programs) from Suffolk County
also, 4 suffolk kids committed to SBU.

the balance of players going to to a variety of schools acrosse DI, DII and DIII.
Sorry but I do not believe that there is a HS in Suffolk that has 7 or more seniors on the roster heading to Top 20 DI schools. More like 1 or 2.
The Top Club teams do have several more top notch players.

Obviously the Long Island / Suffolk County talent is spread out.

This line of thinking is flawed because it is isolating it to just the Seniors. Long Island is so talent rich there is a deep Junior, Sophomore, and at some schools Freshman class who have top players/contributors at the Varsity level. I do understand some high schools are not fortunate to have such an embarrassment of riches, but there are enough schools to go around in Suffolk that do maintain this scenario, that it is indeed a talent-rich place to play. And to some of the other posters points, its at truer measure because the coaches play the best players because they want to win. There are no politics.

No politics, really? Do players not improve from 9yh to 12th grade? There are only 20 - 30 legit top tier players per grad year spread out all across all of Long Island, there is not embarrassment of riches. The level Talent on the field when Top club teams (rising seniors) compete far exceeds the level of talent on the field in any Long Island HS game. Why do you think the best players go to the best club teams? They do it because they want to play with and against the best competition and the best players do not all come from one town and they certainly do not all come Long Island let alone Suffolk County.

As far as recruiting goes, I have had two go through the process, one was heavily recruited by several schools, we narrowed it down to 6 and she received offers from all (three current Top 5, one current Top 10, one current Top 20 and one from a program that is not usually ranked). The other was not heavily recruited and did not receive any offers from teams that were Top 20 at the time they were going through the recruiting process. Had interest from a number of schools but none were beating down the door. Narrowed it down to four and accepted an offer from a great school with a decent lacrosse program. HS Coach was not involved with their club teams and the HS Coach had no involvement with the recruiting process. College coaches watched them play primarily at Summer and Fall tournaments as well as one major winter recruiting camp and a few prospect days (one of which was kind of invite only at a Top 5 program).

The recruiting process will be different for everyone and If the HS coach is very involved with a major club and coaches your daughter on her club team I'm sure they will be involved in the recruiting process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Sorry, It does not appear that you have a firm grasp on reality. I just looked quickly at the college commitment list for the Yellow Jackets 2022 class. Here is a quick breakdown.

18 Soffolk County HS Represented.
37 total commits from suffolk

4 Top Tier commits ( Top 20 type programs) from Suffolk County
also, 4 suffolk kids committed to SBU.

the balance of players going to to a variety of schools acrosse DI, DII and DIII.
Sorry but I do not believe that there is a HS in Suffolk that has 7 or more seniors on the roster heading to Top 20 DI schools. More like 1 or 2.
The Top Club teams do have several more top notch players.

Obviously the Long Island / Suffolk County talent is spread out.

This line of thinking is flawed because it is isolating it to just the Seniors. Long Island is so talent rich there is a deep Junior, Sophomore, and at some schools Freshman class who have top players/contributors at the Varsity level. I do understand some high schools are not fortunate to have such an embarrassment of riches, but there are enough schools to go around in Suffolk that do maintain this scenario, that it is indeed a talent-rich place to play. And to some of the other posters points, its at truer measure because the coaches play the best players because they want to win. There are no politics.

No politics, really? Do players not improve from 9yh to 12th grade? There are only 20 - 30 legit top tier players per grad year spread out all across all of Long Island, there is not embarrassment of riches. The level Talent on the field when Top club teams (rising seniors) compete far exceeds the level of talent on the field in any Long Island HS game. Why do you think the best players go to the best club teams? They do it because they want to play with and against the best competition and the best players do not all come from one town and they certainly do not all come Long Island let alone Suffolk County.

As far as recruiting goes, I have had two go through the process, one was heavily recruited by several schools, we narrowed it down to 6 and she received offers from all (three current Top 5, one current Top 10, one current Top 20 and one from a program that is not usually ranked). The other was not heavily recruited and did not receive any offers from teams that were Top 20 at the time they were going through the recruiting process. Had interest from a number of schools but none were beating down the door. Narrowed it down to four and accepted an offer from a great school with a decent lacrosse program. HS Coach was not involved with their club teams and the HS Coach had no involvement with the recruiting process. College coaches watched them play primarily at Summer and Fall tournaments as well as one major winter recruiting camp and a few prospect days (one of which was kind of invite only at a Top 5 program).

The recruiting process will be different for everyone and If the HS coach is very involved with a major club and coaches your daughter on her club team I'm sure they will be involved in the recruiting process.

People will say well connected club coaches don’t make a difference but they really do give kids the edge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Sorry, It does not appear that you have a firm grasp on reality. I just looked quickly at the college commitment list for the Yellow Jackets 2022 class. Here is a quick breakdown.

18 Soffolk County HS Represented.
37 total commits from suffolk

4 Top Tier commits ( Top 20 type programs) from Suffolk County
also, 4 suffolk kids committed to SBU.

the balance of players going to to a variety of schools acrosse DI, DII and DIII.
Sorry but I do not believe that there is a HS in Suffolk that has 7 or more seniors on the roster heading to Top 20 DI schools. More like 1 or 2.
The Top Club teams do have several more top notch players.

Obviously the Long Island / Suffolk County talent is spread out.

This line of thinking is flawed because it is isolating it to just the Seniors. Long Island is so talent rich there is a deep Junior, Sophomore, and at some schools Freshman class who have top players/contributors at the Varsity level. I do understand some high schools are not fortunate to have such an embarrassment of riches, but there are enough schools to go around in Suffolk that do maintain this scenario, that it is indeed a talent-rich place to play. And to some of the other posters points, its at truer measure because the coaches play the best players because they want to win. There are no politics.

No politics, really? Do players not improve from 9yh to 12th grade? There are only 20 - 30 legit top tier players per grad year spread out all across all of Long Island, there is not embarrassment of riches. The level Talent on the field when Top club teams (rising seniors) compete far exceeds the level of talent on the field in any Long Island HS game. Why do you think the best players go to the best club teams? They do it because they want to play with and against the best competition and the best players do not all come from one town and they certainly do not all come Long Island let alone Suffolk County.

As far as recruiting goes, I have had two go through the process, one was heavily recruited by several schools, we narrowed it down to 6 and she received offers from all (three current Top 5, one current Top 10, one current Top 20 and one from a program that is not usually ranked). The other was not heavily recruited and did not receive any offers from teams that were Top 20 at the time they were going through the recruiting process. Had interest from a number of schools but none were beating down the door. Narrowed it down to four and accepted an offer from a great school with a decent lacrosse program. HS Coach was not involved with their club teams and the HS Coach had no involvement with the recruiting process. College coaches watched them play primarily at Summer and Fall tournaments as well as one major winter recruiting camp and a few prospect days (one of which was kind of invite only at a Top 5 program).

The recruiting process will be different for everyone and If the HS coach is very involved with a major club and coaches your daughter on her club team I'm sure they will be involved in the recruiting process.

People will say well connected club coaches don’t make a difference but they really do give kids the edge

You rising Jrs. on good HS teams are lucky. Last year the girls were screwed by section X1 who decided to hold playoff games the weekends of major recruiting tournaments. A shame they got punished after having to deal with all the COVID BS

This is where my thinking differs from others.If your lucky enough or good enough should I say to make a tight playoff conference bracket I would much rather play in that then any summer or off season tournament.The travel tournaments should not start or have a major recruiting event until HS is over.That’s what June,July and part of August are for.Most of the better or recruitable players are leading their respective HS teams in the playoffs.

Any recommendations for womens stick stringing in Nassau, prefer near North Shore. Took to well known place in Suffolk 3x and it's still not right, throws like garbage, even coach couldn't fix it. With all the different mesh, shooters etc out there overwhelmed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any recommendations for womens stick stringing in Nassau, prefer near North Shore. Took to well known place in Suffolk 3x and it's still not right, throws like garbage, even coach couldn't fix it. With all the different mesh, shooters etc out there overwhelmed.

I know some people use string it up in huntington. I use stylin strings. It's in pennsylvania. you pick out what you want on line and send them the head. It usually takes about 10 days to get back. You can pay extra to have a 2 or 3 day turn around if need be. I know its not ideal but ive been using them for years and it's always spot on. I think they do a lot of college teams.

It’s not in Nassau but Miller place lax unlimited never did me wrong.As is with anything the prices have gone up but if you want a great setup go with the crux pro with gait whip mesh.Really good pocket for attack or offensive middie.no break in time.there fast as well with the turnaround

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any recommendations for womens stick stringing in Nassau, prefer near North Shore. Took to well known place in Suffolk 3x and it's still not right, throws like garbage, even coach couldn't fix it. With all the different mesh, shooters etc out there overwhelmed.

out of curiosity which place didn't you like?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any recommendations for womens stick stringing in Nassau, prefer near North Shore. Took to well known place in Suffolk 3x and it's still not right, throws like garbage, even coach couldn't fix it. With all the different mesh, shooters etc out there overwhelmed.

Matt at Lacrosse Unlimited in Manhasset is great

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s comical how people who’s kids probably never made or played varsity YET say travel is way better competition.It’s not even a close comparison.Next we’ll hear how high level travel is more competitive than college.When you stop paying for the travel circuit some may come to their senses trying to justify getting ripped off to wear a certain uniform.

Sorry, It does not appear that you have a firm grasp on reality. I just looked quickly at the college commitment list for the Yellow Jackets 2022 class. Here is a quick breakdown.

18 Soffolk County HS Represented.
37 total commits from suffolk

4 Top Tier commits ( Top 20 type programs) from Suffolk County
also, 4 suffolk kids committed to SBU.

the balance of players going to to a variety of schools acrosse DI, DII and DIII.
Sorry but I do not believe that there is a HS in Suffolk that has 7 or more seniors on the roster heading to Top 20 DI schools. More like 1 or 2.
The Top Club teams do have several more top notch players.

Obviously the Long Island / Suffolk County talent is spread out.

This line of thinking is flawed because it is isolating it to just the Seniors. Long Island is so talent rich there is a deep Junior, Sophomore, and at some schools Freshman class who have top players/contributors at the Varsity level. I do understand some high schools are not fortunate to have such an embarrassment of riches, but there are enough schools to go around in Suffolk that do maintain this scenario, that it is indeed a talent-rich place to play. And to some of the other posters points, its at truer measure because the coaches play the best players because they want to win. There are no politics.

No politics, really? Do players not improve from 9yh to 12th grade? There are only 20 - 30 legit top tier players per grad year spread out all across all of Long Island, there is not embarrassment of riches. The level Talent on the field when Top club teams (rising seniors) compete far exceeds the level of talent on the field in any Long Island HS game. Why do you think the best players go to the best club teams? They do it because they want to play with and against the best competition and the best players do not all come from one town and they certainly do not all come Long Island let alone Suffolk County.

As far as recruiting goes, I have had two go through the process, one was heavily recruited by several schools, we narrowed it down to 6 and she received offers from all (three current Top 5, one current Top 10, one current Top 20 and one from a program that is not usually ranked). The other was not heavily recruited and did not receive any offers from teams that were Top 20 at the time they were going through the recruiting process. Had interest from a number of schools but none were beating down the door. Narrowed it down to four and accepted an offer from a great school with a decent lacrosse program. HS Coach was not involved with their club teams and the HS Coach had no involvement with the recruiting process. College coaches watched them play primarily at Summer and Fall tournaments as well as one major winter recruiting camp and a few prospect days (one of which was kind of invite only at a Top 5 program).

The recruiting process will be different for everyone and If the HS coach is very involved with a major club and coaches your daughter on her club team I'm sure they will be involved in the recruiting process.

People will say well connected club coaches don’t make a difference but they really do give kids the edge

Yes. The biggest advantage they provide is that they can tell you who is interested before Sept 1 so you can target your search better and attend the right prospect days

Yes! We knew all summer long who was interested because our coaches Were in constant contact with college coaches. That’s a huge help and time saver.

Club coaches claim they will do a lot for you but when sept 1 comes and the days that follow you will realize you are basically on your own. Ask a random 23 whether they are going to ND or Adelphi how much their clubs helped in the process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club coaches claim they will do a lot for you but when sept 1 comes and the days that follow you will realize you are basically on your own. Ask a random 23 whether they are going to ND or Adelphi how much their clubs helped in the process.

Club coaches and teams make you a better laxer
HS coaches and hopefully team make you a better laxer and better team first player
IMO they a thumb on the scale to sway a coach who already has you on their short list for their program. All the connections in the world won’t push an Adelphi middie into a ND one. The laxer does that. It’s almost all in your hands they just hopefully a deciding factor.
I guess if you cut your coaches grass every week they’ll give you line 2 strong side elbow over line 2 weak side elbow so work on that

What was the score of the BBP v American Heritage game in MD last night?

Since HS season overlaps with college -HS means very little for recruiting. Club coach can be a help but not all are. Top clubs are only worried about top recruits for their instagram posts. I coach club and get calls about players a lot. They already have interest but want to know more about character, family, work ethic etc. Yes you are right about Sept. 1 -being on your own. No college out of the blue is going to contact you because they saw you play for 5 minutes. They will have to see you over and over and at prospect camps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the score of the BBP v American Heritage game in MD last night?

7-6 AH

I’m sorry but anybody who doesn’t think being a solid performer in varsity hs lax matters is wrong imo. Day in day out game in game out you are modeling a college experience. As long as your HS is competitive, maybe because you are making it so. Travel is more important as a showcase but imo HS is where you learn to thrive as a producer. Seen so many tournament games that were supposed to matter not and just run of the mill HS games with WAY more intensity and guts. Point I’m trying to make is don’t discount HS.

Not sure how that works.Usually travel programs help get commitments and promote them as previously stated.Let me get this straight your player went to lax on committed already or are you on one of their teams?Just seems out of character.My kid played and trained with them and never had a problem.Not saying it didn’t happen just trying to get the big picture.Coaches usually don’t say that to other kids.Mostly that type of talk is between coaches and behind closed doors.

The biggest difference is travel is a pay to be on the team.School ball is or should be the best your school has to offer.Also in general you wont see 20-24 kids see the field in a game.
Travel has the biggest impact on recruiting only because of the college coaches are available to see games but a strong HS team and coach is invaluable to growth and recruiting.

Any thoughts in the first week in the books.Some good competition and close games decided by one goal.
Say over WH 7-6
BBP over RP 4-3
Harb over Esm 8-7
Solid defensive efforts by all the above.

Whats wrong with Newsday? They are not reporting stats for some team, and awards phantom points for others. On a different note, WM girls are a bunch of thugs. Worst sportsmanship I’ve ever seen. The coach should check their players inappropriate use of social media. Disgusting!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats wrong with Newsday? They are not reporting stats for some team, and awards phantom points for others. On a different note, WM girls are a bunch of thugs. Worst sportsmanship I’ve ever seen. The coach should check their players inappropriate use of social media. Disgusting!

The stats things are so bogus! They are not being kept properly by the schools. Only certain teams take it seriously and it’s to promote certain girls ! The Stats are dense at this point. Unless, they come up with away fur them to be accurate! Certain girls will have inflated stats on purpose and schools will report them. So? Forget the whole stats and judging girls on stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats wrong with Newsday? They are not reporting stats for some team, and awards phantom points for others. On a different note, WM girls are a bunch of thugs. Worst sportsmanship I’ve ever seen. The coach should check their players inappropriate use of social media. Disgusting!

You lose a game and come on here to call girls Thugs? I would call that an inappropriate use of social media. Maybe check your own posts before calling out other teams?

What happened with WM?

What’s disgusting is you stalking teenage girls social media accounts.

What happened to all teams, Problem is coaching and parenting. Coaches are crazy on the sidelines. Some of them need to maybe be removed from working with minors, because they are poor role models.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats wrong with Newsday? They are not reporting stats for some team, and awards phantom points for others. On a different note, WM girls are a bunch of thugs. Worst sportsmanship I’ve ever seen. The coach should check their players inappropriate use of social media. Disgusting!

The stats things are so bogus! They are not being kept properly by the schools. Only certain teams take it seriously and it’s to promote certain girls ! The Stats are dense at this point. Unless, they come up with away fur them to be accurate! Certain girls will have inflated stats on purpose and schools will report them. So? Forget the whole stats and judging girls on stats.

Look at the so called stat leaders, their goals to assist ratios are non existent. Over 30 goals and very few assists. What kind of team player are they? Lacrosse like that is not fun for anyone on the field with them. Coaches let it slide and parents encourage it because she soooo good. Real players make everyone around them better, selfish players hog the ball and pad their stats.

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

LMAO. It’s Long Island. Every town is soft. What are you from the Bronx? Clowns on this forum.

Unlikely? Please elaborate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

Before you come on here and label whole towns soft, can you let us know how many free position goals your stat padders scored? The refs definitely know who pays their summer salaries. Interesting how close it was before they had to inject themselves into the game. The Rose mafia wins again. It’s hard enough to play a talented team but next to impossible when the refs are so obviously biased. They are going to get someone hurt, just like in last year’s Semis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

The whole yj offensive scheme is to charge, get a call, get a free shot, repeat. It is not real lacrosse and the refs play right into it. YJ used to be elite, now every age group is flooded with girls who never pass and charge into doubles while their parents run to BOTC to gloat about their greatness. The college transfer portal is filled with fmr YJs who leave in a year b/c they realize college playing time takes work and effort, not just Mommy and Daddy yelling,”Go to Goal!”. NCAA benches run deep with ‘has been’ YJ girls watching their teammates play a team game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

16 goals and only 6 assists?
How many 8 meter goals were handed to you by Rose’s refs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

16 goals and only 6 assists?
How many 8 meter goals were handed to you by Rose’s refs?

Commack has a few very very good players, some of whom do play for YJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

16 goals and only 6 assists?
How many 8 meter goals were handed to you by Rose’s refs?

16 Goals on 6 assists is a pretty good assist to goal ratio of 37% compare to games between the top 4 Div 1 teams

BC - NW 22%
BC- UNC 29%
NW - UNC 34%
Syr - UNC 23%
Syr - NW 41%

Pretty much How the game is played on all levels

True assists are hard to come by especially on the High School level . Even on the best HS teams players with the ability to catch and shoot in traffic or feed the ball properly is just not abundant.

Newsday stats are nonsense . Have seen multiple games reported with more assists then Goals ( Not Hockey )

Alot of goals does not necessarily mean a player is a ball hog. I know a college player that has 43 goals and only 7 assists but only 5 of the goals are unassisted

is she a ball Hog ?

16 goals and only 6 assists?
How many 8 meter goals were handed to you by Rose’s refs?[/quote]

16 Goals on 6 assists is a pretty good assist to goal ratio of 37%

The question was how many were scored off of free position shots? Completely unbalanced officiating. They don’t even try to hide their bias.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

16 goals and only 6 assists?
How many 8 meter goals were handed to you by Rose’s refs?

16 Goals on 6 assists is a pretty good assist to goal ratio of 37%

The question was how many were scored off of free position shots? Completely unbalanced officiating. They don’t even try to hide their bias.[/quote]

Sorry was just chiming in on a conversation that seems to always go on. Did not see the game, in fact have not seen a HS game in sometime, but do understand your frustration. Personally I believe it is more about the lack of consistency with refereeing and not so much about who the dominate personality of girls lacrosse is. I believe that officials tend to reward the most aggresive players. Did the team on the short end try to draw the calls ? or did they run a methodical patient offense ? And yes there are many coaches and programs that teach that go to the goal mentality and the art of drawing calls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

16 goals and only 6 assists?
How many 8 meter goals were handed to you by Rose’s refs?

Commack has a few very very good players, some of whom do play for YJ

more who “played “ for YJ

those kids just had their recruiting impacted

enjoy playing for detroit loudmouth

I don't feel the refs reward the aggressive players, the problem is the talent is not like it used to be. Your best players today would be like number 10 on there team from years ago. The talent is so diluted and all you have are girls being taught by coaches who scream the whole game at the girls at the refs because of there lack of ability to coach a team of not so talented players. Coaches are only as good as the players they have and when the talent is so bad then it makes it for a worse overall game. Then you have all the entitled children and entitled parents who think that their child should be rewarded. Poor coaching, poor parenting and lack of talent is whats wrong with the game today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

16 goals and only 6 assists?
How many 8 meter goals were handed to you by Rose’s refs?

Commack has a few very very good players, some of whom do play for YJ

more who “played “ for YJ

those kids just had their recruiting impacted

enjoy playing for detroit loudmouth

darn what did the motor city every do to you????

Last 6 minutes excluded the St Anthony’s/Manhassett game was the best reffed girls high school game I’ve ever seen. They let the girls play and (until the last 6mins) didn’t insert themselves in the outcome of the game.

I wouldn't go by assist to goal ratio. Most of the score keepers don't know what qualifies as an assist. Plus I have seen more than one game where there were more assists than goals. How is that? Too subjective. Goals is the only real stat that is legit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last 6 minutes excluded the St Anthony’s/Manhassett game was the best reffed girls high school game I’ve ever seen. They let the girls play and (until the last 6mins) didn’t insert themselves in the outcome of the game.

Yes, I think it was one of the best reffed games I’ve seen in a long time as well. I think because the girls always tend to get more aggressive in the last minutes of the games, especially when a close game. The refs get more involved afraid someone is going to get hurt! I think that was the case? The Game was getting chippy at the end, girls getting a little more aggressive.

Overall, a very good game and so much fun to watch. Great match up! One of the best HS games I’ve seen in awhile. Congrats to both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wouldn't go by assist to goal ratio. Most of the score keepers don't know what qualifies as an assist. Plus I have seen more than one game where there were more assists than goals. How is that? Too subjective. Goals is the only real stat that is legit.

Enough with just goal stats! The game is so much more than that. That is why we have such selfish players playing these days! Just going for the goal stat. I would love to see the other stats recorded (newsday) and reward girls for the work that leads to those goals! It’s a team sport. Let’s not just focus on the goals. It takes a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wouldn't go by assist to goal ratio. Most of the score keepers don't know what qualifies as an assist. Plus I have seen more than one game where there were more assists than goals. How is that? Too subjective. Goals is the only real stat that is legit.

Enough with just goal stats! The game is so much more than that. That is why we have such selfish players playing these days! Just going for the goal stat. I would love to see the other stats recorded (newsday) and reward girls for the work that leads to those goals! It’s a team sport. Let’s not just focus on the goals. It takes a team.

Ha, hs scorers can't even get assists correct and you want additional stats.

They are a disgrace to sports behavior. Where is the athletic director?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last 6 minutes excluded the St Anthony’s/Manhassett game was the best reffed girls high school game I’ve ever seen. They let the girls play and (until the last 6mins) didn’t insert themselves in the outcome of the game.

Yes, I think it was one of the best reffed games I’ve seen in a long time as well. I think because the girls always tend to get more aggressive in the last minutes of the games, especially when a close game. The refs get more involved afraid someone is going to get hurt! I think that was the case? The Game was getting chippy at the end, girls getting a little more aggressive.

Overall, a very good game and so much fun to watch. Great match up! One of the best HS games I’ve seen in awhile. Congrats to both teams.

Agreed. It was a fantastic game. So much fun to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last 6 minutes excluded the St Anthony’s/Manhassett game was the best reffed girls high school game I’ve ever seen. They let the girls play and (until the last 6mins) didn’t insert themselves in the outcome of the game.

Yes, I think it was one of the best reffed games I’ve seen in a long time as well. I think because the girls always tend to get more aggressive in the last minutes of the games, especially when a close game. The refs get more involved afraid someone is going to get hurt! I think that was the case? The Game was getting chippy at the end, girls getting a little more aggressive.

Overall, a very good game and so much fun to watch. Great match up! One of the best HS games I’ve seen in awhile. Congrats to both teams.

Agreed. It was a fantastic game. So much fun to watch

Speaking of refs…… how about that duo doing the BBP home games. Issuing cards like crazy. Never a call vs BBP

Can’t bring your refs to the playoffs…. We’ll see you for the rematch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last 6 minutes excluded the St Anthony’s/Manhassett game was the best reffed girls high school game I’ve ever seen. They let the girls play and (until the last 6mins) didn’t insert themselves in the outcome of the game.

Yes, I think it was one of the best reffed games I’ve seen in a long time as well. I think because the girls always tend to get more aggressive in the last minutes of the games, especially when a close game. The refs get more involved afraid someone is going to get hurt! I think that was the case? The Game was getting chippy at the end, girls getting a little more aggressive.

Overall, a very good game and so much fun to watch. Great match up! One of the best HS games I’ve seen in awhile. Congrats to both teams.

Agreed. It was a fantastic game. So much fun to watch

Speaking of refs…… how about that duo doing the BBP home games. Issuing cards like crazy. Never a call vs BBP

Can’t bring your refs to the playoffs…. We’ll see you for the rematch.

Because BBP plays a clean game. Thug ball will never win games. Stop crying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last 6 minutes excluded the St Anthony’s/Manhassett game was the best reffed girls high school game I’ve ever seen. They let the girls play and (until the last 6mins) didn’t insert themselves in the outcome of the game.

Yes, I think it was one of the best reffed games I’ve seen in a long time as well. I think because the girls always tend to get more aggressive in the last minutes of the games, especially when a close game. The refs get more involved afraid someone is going to get hurt! I think that was the case? The Game was getting chippy at the end, girls getting a little more aggressive.

Overall, a very good game and so much fun to watch. Great match up! One of the best HS games I’ve seen in awhile. Congrats to both teams.

Agreed. It was a fantastic game. So much fun to watch

Speaking of refs…… how about that duo doing the BBP home games. Issuing cards like crazy. Never a call vs BBP

Can’t bring your refs to the playoffs…. We’ll see you for the rematch.

Ok MS parent. Don’t the refs move around to the different HS games? Who picks what refs will be reffing the games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last 6 minutes excluded the St Anthony’s/Manhassett game was the best reffed girls high school game I’ve ever seen. They let the girls play and (until the last 6mins) didn’t insert themselves in the outcome of the game.

Yes, I think it was one of the best reffed games I’ve seen in a long time as well. I think because the girls always tend to get more aggressive in the last minutes of the games, especially when a close game. The refs get more involved afraid someone is going to get hurt! I think that was the case? The Game was getting chippy at the end, girls getting a little more aggressive.

Overall, a very good game and so much fun to watch. Great match up! One of the best HS games I’ve seen in awhile. Congrats to both teams.

Agreed. It was a fantastic game. So much fun to watch

Speaking of refs…… how about that duo doing the BBP home games. Issuing cards like crazy. Never a call vs BBP

Can’t bring your refs to the playoffs…. We’ll see you for the rematch.

Ok MS parent. Don’t the refs move around to the different HS games? Who picks what refs will be reffing the games?

Hey BBP parent living in fantasy land. 9-0 should prob be 5-4. You’re losing in playoffs. Enjoy that bye.

I’m curious. Which four wins were really losses?

Rocky point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m curious. Which four wins were really losses?

None. It looks like they had one tight game away at Rocky Point. Sayville, also away, was a 3-goal game. The rest were blowouts. Anyone can read the scores on section XI, I did. To say they win at home because of officiating is basically saying you can't read.

The once-great Mt Sinai is no more, and the parents haven't adjusted yet. Give them some time to grieve.

Every single post on this whole forum, every thread. Parents trolling each other over lax. It’s entertaining. Pathetic but entertaining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rocky point?

The Rocky Point game was close because 7 girls had just got back from their southern trip and caught flu like symptoms. They were lethargic still, plus the RP coach decided to stall for 7-8 minutes every possession. He’s a loudmouth not teaching the girls to play at the next level and it shows!

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Gotta love when those claws come out over kids playing a game

Don’t forget to include they were suffering from jet lag and had to wear masks that reduced their oxygen levels

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rocky point?

The Rocky Point game was close because 7 girls had just got back from their southern trip and caught flu like symptoms. They were lethargic still, plus the RP coach decided to stall for 7-8 minutes every possession. He’s a loudmouth not teaching the girls to play at the next level and it shows!

Guess home field and officials really matter😳

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Return to school enrollment conferences for playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Return to school enrollment conferences for playoffs

As far as who qualifies for playoffs:
Conference 1: All teams
Conference 2: All teams
Conference 3: Top 8 teams
Conference 4: Top two teams
Conference 5: Top team

Just because you *qualify* doesn't always mean you make playoffs as your classifiactions bracket may already be filled by teams in a higher conference

Westhampton @ BBP today at 4……. How many cards will Westhampton get and how many minutes will they play short handed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Return to school enrollment conferences for playoffs

As far as who qualifies for playoffs:
Conference 1: All teams
Conference 2: All teams
Conference 3: Top 8 teams
Conference 4: Top two teams
Conference 5: Top team

Just because you *qualify* doesn't always mean you make playoffs as your classifiactions bracket may already be filled by teams in a higher conference

I appreciate this forum since we can actually get informed answers. Curious; What would prevent a weaker team from playing in a higher bracket just to qualify for playoffs? Another observation, this season there have been so many lopsided contests who determines the divisions each year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m curious. Which four wins were really losses?

None. It looks like they had one tight game away at Rocky Point. Sayville, also away, was a 3-goal game. The rest were blowouts. Anyone can read the scores on section XI, I did. To say they win at home because of officiating is basically saying you can't read.

The once-great Mt Sinai is no more, and the parents haven't adjusted yet. Give them some time to grieve.

Mt Sinai is overrated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

Is Comsewogue the favorite to make it to Counties?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m curious. Which four wins were really losses?

None. It looks like they had one tight game away at Rocky Point. Sayville, also away, was a 3-goal game. The rest were blowouts. Anyone can read the scores on section XI, I did. To say they win at home because of officiating is basically saying you can't read.

The once-great Mt Sinai is no more, and the parents haven't adjusted yet. Give them some time to grieve.

Mt Sinai is overrated.

They have been for a few years. You couldn't tell it by DAD's Instagram though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Return to school enrollment conferences for playoffs

As far as who qualifies for playoffs:
Conference 1: All teams
Conference 2: All teams
Conference 3: Top 8 teams
Conference 4: Top two teams
Conference 5: Top team

Just because you *qualify* doesn't always mean you make playoffs as your classifiactions bracket may already be filled by teams in a higher conference

I appreciate this forum since we can actually get informed answers. Curious; What would prevent a weaker team from playing in a higher bracket just to qualify for playoffs? Another observation, this season there have been so many lopsided contests who determines the divisions each year?

There is a committee consisting of all 51 varsity coaches + "independent" members that vote on the conference alignments. Don't really know the details of the process but In reality the alignments change very little year to year with a last place team occasionally moving down and a first place team occasionally moving up. kind of like relegation/promotion works in soccer.

It's not perfect of course but by browsing Newsday it feels like there are fewer blowouts than in Suffolk. Can't say for sure though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how D2 breaks down in reference to the B and C playoff brackets.It looks like a few teams may have moved around from last years but I can’t find it on section xi

Class B Comswogue, westhampton,ESM,WB,WI,EI,Islip,SW,KP,Haupp,DP

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Return to school enrollment conferences for playoffs

As far as who qualifies for playoffs:
Conference 1: All teams
Conference 2: All teams
Conference 3: Top 8 teams
Conference 4: Top two teams
Conference 5: Top team

Just because you *qualify* doesn't always mean you make playoffs as your classifiactions bracket may already be filled by teams in a higher conference

I appreciate this forum since we can actually get informed answers. Curious; What would prevent a weaker team from playing in a higher bracket just to qualify for playoffs? Another observation, this season there have been so many lopsided contests who determines the divisions each year?

Do teams really qualify with losing records?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Return to school enrollment conferences for playoffs

As far as who qualifies for playoffs:
Conference 1: All teams
Conference 2: All teams
Conference 3: Top 8 teams
Conference 4: Top two teams
Conference 5: Top team

Just because you *qualify* doesn't always mean you make playoffs as your classifiactions bracket may already be filled by teams in a higher conference

I appreciate this forum since we can actually get informed answers. Curious; What would prevent a weaker team from playing in a higher bracket just to qualify for playoffs? Another observation, this season there have been so many lopsided contests who determines the divisions each year?

Do teams really qualify with losing records?

Absolutely. For example as of today:
Plainedge is Class C, winless in Conference 1. They will not only make playoffs they'll be the number 5 seed.
Seaford, also Class C, is undefeated in Conference 2. They will be the 6 seed.

It seems ridiculous, yes, but just completely by chance the two teams played an OOC game earlier in year and Plainedge won 18-15. So maybe it somehow works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do the playoffs work for Nassau? I believe the are 5 divisions or conferences. Do they break out by record to play for titles by size, A, B, C, etc? What determines who makes it it to playoffs?

Return to school enrollment conferences for playoffs

As far as who qualifies for playoffs:
Conference 1: All teams
Conference 2: All teams
Conference 3: Top 8 teams
Conference 4: Top two teams
Conference 5: Top team

Just because you *qualify* doesn't always mean you make playoffs as your classifiactions bracket may already be filled by teams in a higher conference

I appreciate this forum since we can actually get informed answers. Curious; What would prevent a weaker team from playing in a higher bracket just to qualify for playoffs? Another observation, this season there have been so many lopsided contests who determines the divisions each year?

Do teams really qualify with losing records?

Absolutely. For example as of today:
Plainedge is Class C, winless in Conference 1. They will not only make playoffs they'll be the number 5 seed.
Seaford, also Class C, is undefeated in Conference 2. They will be the 6 seed.

It seems ridiculous, yes, but just completely by chance the two teams played an OOC game earlier in year and Plainedge won 18-15. So maybe it somehow works.

Definitely not comparing apples to apples. Undefeated in Conference 2 while playing a much less competitive schedule. Plainedge will probably get moved down next year and Seaford will be moved up. The schedule in Conference 1 is extremely challenging.

I guess questioning the calls from the head Suffolk ref-Maureen who was one of the two refs for the MS Thug game against BBP, is your only way to deflect from your teams disgraceful example of women’s lacrosse. Add the Coach instructing which girls to “take out” and you witness the final demise of the once great MS. When you can’t play-you foul. This group was raised this way !!!!

[quote=Anonymous]I guess questioning the calls from the head Suffolk ref.

Ouch!!!

How many teams will make each bracket for the Nassau playoffs? A, B, C, D? I have heard there are play in games, why is that necessary? I've asked our coach but he seems to know nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams will make each bracket for the Nassau playoffs? A, B, C, D? I have heard there are play in games, why is that necessary? I've asked our coach but he seems to know nothing.

A - 6 (out of 10)
B - 12 (out of 19)
C - 12 (out of 20)
D - 4 (out of 5)

The champions of Conference III, IV and V may end up playing a play-in game against the lowest seeded team from a higher conference if the bracket for their classification is already filled by teams from a higher conference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

The whole yj offensive scheme is to charge, get a call, get a free shot, repeat. It is not real lacrosse and the refs play right into it. YJ used to be elite, now every age group is flooded with girls who never pass and charge into doubles while their parents run to BOTC to gloat about their greatness. The college transfer portal is filled with fmr YJs who leave in a year b/c they realize college playing time takes work and effort, not just Mommy and Daddy yelling,”Go to Goal!”. NCAA benches run deep with ‘has been’ YJ girls watching their teammates play a team game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with the commmack dads? lot of hard talk for a soft town

you better hope none of your kids play for yj though i’d guess its unlikely after watching them today

The whole yj offensive scheme is to charge, get a call, get a free shot, repeat. It is not real lacrosse and the refs play right into it. YJ used to be elite, now every age group is flooded with girls who never pass and charge into doubles while their parents run to BOTC to gloat about their greatness. The college transfer portal is filled with fmr YJs who leave in a year b/c they realize college playing time takes work and effort, not just Mommy and Daddy yelling,”Go to Goal!”. NCAA benches run deep with ‘has been’ YJ girls watching their teammates play a team game.

This is a ridiculous post. Obviously this posters kid is not living up to the standards set by her Mom and Dad which is unfortunate. NCAA teams are filled with YJ players many of which populate the starting lineups of top 5 teams. My advice to this poster is to be careful what you say as it reflects on your kid.

This is a ridiculous post. Obviously this posters kid is not living up to the standards set by her Mom and Dad which is unfortunate. NCAA teams are filled with YJ players many of which populate the starting lineups of top 5 teams. My advice to this poster is to be careful what you say as it reflects on your kid.[/quote]

What’s obvious is useless people like me that come here and speak about standards and offer up unsolicited advice without having any context. I’m useless so it’s what I do. Who appointed me savior of the game? Read through the thread, selfish play and poor officiating are making this a tough game to play and even harder to watch cause I’m blind. Did i see the post about the MS/BBP game? Do those parents have kids not living to my standards too?

“I guess questioning the calls from the head Suffolk ref-Maureen who was one of the two refs for the MS game against BBP, is my only way to deflect from my teams disgraceful example of women’s lacrosse. Add the Coach instructing which girls to “take out” and I witness the final demise of the once great BBP. When you can’t play-you foul. This group was raised this way !!!!”

It seems ridiculous, yes, but just completely by chance the two teams played an OOC game earlier in year and Plainedge won 18-15. So maybe it somehow works.[/quote]

Definitely not comparing apples to apples. Undefeated in Conference 2 while playing a much less competitive schedule. Plainedge will probably get moved down next year and Seaford will be moved up. The schedule in Conference 1 is extremely challenging.[/quote]

From what I witnessed yesterday it sort of works. We played a one tier lower conference team who was undefeated in their conference. We have 2 losses in our conference. It wasn't close, all our subs played and we were on our own imposed pass rule. Coming in they had 2 players tops in Nassau in points, not impressive against better competition. My guess is they'll win their conference and get moved next year into our conference and go winless. That seems to be the only problem with current set up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a ridiculous post. Obviously this posters kid is not living up to the standards set by her Mom and Dad which is unfortunate. NCAA teams are filled with YJ players many of which populate the starting lineups of top 5 teams. My advice to this poster is to be careful what you say as it reflects on your kid.

What’s obvious is useless people like me that come here and speak about standards and offer up unsolicited advice without having any context. Who appointed me savior of the game? Read through the thread, selfish play and poor officiating are making this a tough game to play and even harder to watch cause I’m blind. Did I see the post about the MS/BBP game? Do those parents have kids not living to my standards too?

“I guess questioning the calls from the head Suffolk ref-Maureen who was one of the two refs for the MS game against BBP, is my only way to deflect from my teams disgraceful example of women’s lacrosse. Add the Coach instructing which girls to “take out” and I witness the final demise of the once great BBP. When you can’t play-you foul. This group was raised this way !!!!”[/quote]

MS comswogue are the two dirtiest teams out there. There coaches encourage it thats the problem. Would not be proud to be a part of kids being encouraged to hurt a kid. it is what it is its been going on for years and their parents love it.

to find out what division your team is in Suffolk county, goto section xi and its under sports placement and then choose your season

Congratulation!

Wave II Girls' UA All-Americans

Attack
Caroline Godine, McDonogh (Md.), North Carolina
Carli Fleisher, American Heritage-Delray (Fla.), Northwestern
Emma Murphy, H.H. Dow (Mich.), Notre Dame

Midfield
Shea Baker, Ithaca (N.Y.), Boston College
Rylee Bouvier, Bishop Geurtin (N.H.), Stanford
Kaitlyn Davies, Wayne Hills (N.J.), Florida
Kiley Mottice, Archbishop John Carroll (Pa.), North Carolina
Abbey Herod, Canandaigua Academy (N.Y.), Boston College
Rylee Tinney, Valor Christian (Colo.), Michigan

Defense
Mae Marshall, Notre Dame Prep (Md.), Maryland

Goalie
Jocelyn Torres, Glenelg (Md.), Virginia Tech

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a ridiculous post. Obviously this posters kid is not living up to the standards set by her Mom and Dad which is unfortunate. NCAA teams are filled with YJ players many of which populate the starting lineups of top 5 teams. My advice to this poster is to be careful what you say as it reflects on your kid.

What’s obvious is useless people like me that come here and speak about standards and offer up unsolicited advice without having any context. Who appointed me savior of the game? Read through the thread, selfish play and poor officiating are making this a tough game to play and even harder to watch cause I’m blind. Did I see the post about the MS/BBP game? Do those parents have kids not living to their standards too?

“I guess questioning the calls from the head Suffolk ref-Maureen who was one of the two refs for the MS game against BBP, is my only way to deflect from my teams disgraceful example of women’s lacrosse. Add the Coach instructing which girls to “take out” and you witness the final demise of the once great BBP. When you can’t play-you foul. This group was raised this way !!!!”

MS comswogue are the two dirtiest teams out there. There coaches encourage it thats the problem. Would not be proud to be a part of kids being encouraged to hurt a kid. it is what it is its been going on for years and their parents love it.[/quote]

MS is all favoritism with the coach and culture issue including physical fights between players off the field. I bet they’re missing their old coach right about now.

Which catholic high schools have the best girls lacrosse program after St. Anthony's?

Suffolk playoff picture
Division 1 “A” bracket has 20 teams and the top 10 make the playoffs which is 50%
Division 2 “B” bracket has 10 teams and the top 6 make the playoffs which is 60%
Division 2 “C” bracket has 12 teams and the top 4 make it which is 33%
Division 2 “D” bracket has 5 teams and the top 3 make the playoffs which is 60%.
Why would the toughest bracket in the county have the least amount of teams qualify

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which catholic high schools have the best girls lacrosse program after St. Anthony's?

Sacred Heart

St. Anthony's just acquires the most talent .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk playoff picture
Division 1 “A” bracket has 20 teams and the top 10 make the playoffs which is 50%
Division 2 “B” bracket has 10 teams and the top 6 make the playoffs which is 60%
Division 2 “C” bracket has 12 teams and the top 4 make it which is 33%
Division 2 “D” bracket has 5 teams and the top 3 make the playoffs which is 60%.
Why would the toughest bracket in the county have the least amount of teams qualify

This is not accurate information. 5 teams make the B playoffs, 6 teams make the C's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which catholic high schools have the best girls lacrosse program after St. Anthony's?

Doms or sacred heart

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. Anthony's just acquires the most talent .

Yore not wrong, but SA is a great school, if your going to leave you hometown school you want to be because youre going to a great school.. SA is it.

and the most donations

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk playoff picture
Division 1 “A” bracket has 20 teams and the top 10 make the playoffs which is 50%
Division 2 “B” bracket has 10 teams and the top 6 make the playoffs which is 60%
Division 2 “C” bracket has 12 teams and the top 4 make it which is 33%
Division 2 “D” bracket has 5 teams and the top 3 make the playoffs which is 60%.
Why would the toughest bracket in the county have the least amount of teams qualify

This is not accurate information. 5 teams make the B playoffs, 6 teams make the C's

Additionally, there are 12 B schools, not 10

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. Anthony's just acquires the most talent .

Yore not wrong, but SA is a great school, if your going to leave you hometown school you want to be because youre going to a great school.. SA is it.

However, SA is def. not the right fit for everyone! Big school, big team. Kind of like when you pick a college. Need to find the right fit for kids personality and team dynamics. Plenty of great Catholic schools with great programs. Doms, SH, Kellenberg, St Johns are all very good schools for both LAX and Academics.

Ward Melville vs Northport was one heck of a game. Will make for an interesting finals game come playoff time.

That’s correct on the playoff bracket ,I must have been looking at last season.There where some teams that moved from A to B and from B to C and it changed the landscape a little bit.The placements count seems right though.It’s been a closely contested season so far amongst the top teams.

It definitely is a great school but the lacrosse program is good because they acquire a ton of talent . Coaching is not great either . Then factor in big donations and its not a good mix. The practices on the JV side are laughable if they even practice .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It definitely is a great school but the lacrosse program is good because they acquire a ton of talent . Coaching is not great either . Then factor in big donations and its not a good mix. The practices on the JV side are laughable if they even practice .

Very few LI Varsity High school teams have "Great Coaching" .. and almost none on the JV level, so why think it would be different at SA.
Are you saying that a big donation gets you playing time? Im not sure I agree there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. Anthony's just acquires the most talent .

Yore not wrong, but SA is a great school, if your going to leave you hometown school you want to be because youre going to a great school.. SA is it.

However, SA is def. not the right fit for everyone! Big school, big team. Kind of like when you pick a college. Need to find the right fit for kids personality and team dynamics. Plenty of great Catholic schools with great programs. Doms, SH, Kellenberg, St Johns are all very good schools for both LAX and Academics.

You are spot on!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and the most donations

Oh yes the girls lacrosse program is dripping in donations🙄

Clean game? Absolutely not.

Could have gone either way, don’t think NP was expecting the game to be that close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville vs Northport was one heck of a game. Will make for an interesting finals game come playoff time.

I could see Floyd or Smithtown East beating WM in the playoffs, not sure anyone is beating Northport. Especially with Carol's refs on her side

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville vs Northport was one heck of a game. Will make for an interesting finals game come playoff time.

I could see Floyd or Smithtown East beating WM in the playoffs, not sure anyone is beating Northport. Especially with Carol's refs on her side

Northport didn't seem to get the calls in the game vs Ward Melville. Calls were fairly even in that game. So I don't know why you say she has all the refs on her side.

Has anyone who tried out for school girls heard anything yet?

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

WB up 1 held ball last 6 min. SW got frustrated fouled hard some pushing w 10 secs left. Just drama no one got hurt thank god.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

WB up 1 held ball last 6 min. SW got frustrated fouled hard some pushing w 10 secs left. Just drama no one got hurt thank god.

Exactly why a shot clock is needed in HS lacrosse. It’s usually when teams just holding ball playing keep away to stall …then kids end up getting hurt. Girls start to press and get more physical trying to take the ball away. Let’s get the shot clock in HS and end that scenario. Plus get girls ready for college!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

WB up 1 held ball last 6 min. SW got frustrated fouled hard some pushing w 10 secs left. Just drama no one got hurt thank god.

Exactly why a shot clock is needed in HS lacrosse. It’s usually when teams just holding ball playing keep away to stall …then kids end up getting hurt. Girls start to press and get more physical trying to take the ball away. Let’s get the shot clock in HS and end that scenario. Plus get girls ready for college!

Honestly embarrassing that West Babylon coaches are teaching kids to play like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

WB up 1 held ball last 6 min. SW got frustrated fouled hard some pushing w 10 secs left. Just drama no one got hurt thank god.

Exactly why a shot clock is needed in HS lacrosse. It’s usually when teams just holding ball playing keep away to stall …then kids end up getting hurt. Girls start to press and get more physical trying to take the ball away. Let’s get the shot clock in HS and end that scenario. Plus get girls ready for college!

I am down in the Baltimore league and we went to shot clocks this year. It took some adjustments for the players and the refs but it is a game changer and really helps the flow of the game. Only challenge we have seen is when the clock is counting down and the obsessive parents are yelling to shoot even if the girls are 12 meters out and 3 girls in front of them.

There will definetly be an upset between WM Northport SE and WF

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There will definetly be an upset between WM Northport SE and WF

I think WM could lose to numerous teams depending on how they play the day of

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

WB up 1 held ball last 6 min. SW got frustrated fouled hard some pushing w 10 secs left. Just drama no one got hurt thank god.

Exactly why a shot clock is needed in HS lacrosse. It’s usually when teams just holding ball playing keep away to stall …then kids end up getting hurt. Girls start to press and get more physical trying to take the ball away. Let’s get the shot clock in HS and end that scenario. Plus get girls ready for college!

Honestly embarrassing that West Babylon coaches are teaching kids to play like that.

Northwestern used to hold the ball for 12 -15minutes.
Shot clock would definitely help the game. But please it’s about winning isn’t it. Gotta do what you Gotta do to win games. I credit West Babylon coaches for being smart. MS is the king of holding the ball. And they won a lot of championships doing it.
I am embarrassed of Smithtown West coaches. fans heard more foul language of SW girls in their own huddle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

WB up 1 held ball last 6 min. SW got frustrated fouled hard some pushing w 10 secs left. Just drama no one got hurt thank god.

Is there any video? I heard it was a cheap shot .

That is not what happened, watch the video for yourself.

SWR beats Mt Sinai 13-11.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not what happened, watch the video for yourself.

SW has a firecracker that can ignite at any moment. Looked for the video and couldn’t find it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the West Babylon and Smithtown game?

WB up 1 held ball last 6 min. SW got frustrated fouled hard some pushing w 10 secs left. Just drama no one got hurt thank god.

Exactly why a shot clock is needed in HS lacrosse. It’s usually when teams just holding ball playing keep away to stall …then kids end up getting hurt. Girls start to press and get more physical trying to take the ball away. Let’s get the shot clock in HS and end that scenario. Plus get girls ready for college!

I am down in the Baltimore league and we went to shot clocks this year. It took some adjustments for the players and the refs but it is a game changer and really helps the flow of the game. Only challenge we have seen is when the clock is counting down and the obsessive parents are yelling to shoot even if the girls are 12 meters out and 3 girls in front of them.

Only the IAAM A conference in MD has the shot clock and I’ve never heard a parent yell shoot as the clock was expiring. The teams have been very disciplined and throwing the ball out of bounds if they can’t get the shot off in time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR beats Mt Sinai 13-11.

MS having a rough season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR beats Mt Sinai 13-11.

MS having a rough season

Loss to BBP
Loss to Miller place
Loss to Rocky point
Loss to SWR

Bertelone will be in the playoffs this year with Northport A bracket. MS dominance in C is over.

Loss to Sayville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loss to Sayville

Oh how the mighty MS have fallen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not what happened, watch the video for yourself.

SW has a firecracker that can ignite at any moment. Looked for the video and couldn’t find it

Yep, and that firecracker is also a habitual flopper. Tough look for the kid and her local college team

Any big games tonight

Quiet night on big games except for Northport vs Smithtown East

CSH going to Pequa for 2nd game this season. They won early in the season on the last play of the game. Will be another good game tonight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH going to Pequa for 2nd game this season. They won early in the season on the last play of the game. Will be another good game tonight.

Why do they play twice? Kinda weird.

Posted in another forum:

Which is more fun for your kid (or you), Club or High School lacrosse?

Most favored high school citing factors such as:

-Games meaning more to them especially wins and losses. They didn't care as much about W-L's in club
-More team camaraderie with high school. These are kids they (obviously) go to school with and know better. Club sometimes feels like hired mercenaries
-If you are the better player, then you play more whereas with Club, since everyone is (presumably) paying the same, playing time is split more evenly
-Spring lacrosse after a barren Winter season feels more refreshing where summer club can be a slog sometimes
-High school coaches care more than club coaches about the kids?
-Cheaper than club (unless you pay for private school)
-Less traveling
-Playing against a team of holdbacks may be less prevalent in high school (except Prep schools)
-More emotional investment in the town you live in or (the school you are paying for for Prep). True rivalries seem to mean more in high school and thus,there is more emotional investment

Those who favored Club cited factors such as:

-the level of competition is better and teammates are usually better, at least at the higher levels of Club lacrosse
-traveling around the country with your kid is a (sometimes) rewarding experience
-some like the national exposure of some of the high level Club lacrosse
-even playing time as some players may get buried on a high school bench

Recruiting-wise, it was a wash but I feel that High School recruiting is better than Club recruiting. I have heard stories of Club making a million promises but never delivering when it comes to recruiting, unless you are the superstar of the club. I have been told (but could be mistaken) is that colleges value the high school coach opinion much more than the club coach.

There seems to be a temporal nature to it. Youth club was much more rewarding than youth town lacrosse but as the kids get older, high school becomes more important to kids. I would even venture to say that club has much less meaning to 22's, 23's and maybe 24's.

It also seemed that this logic does not apply to the outliers such as the top national high school teams in the country or the bottom lower clubs. In addition, most of this logic may not apply to the superstars (top 0.5% of players in the country).

Just curious to everyone's thoughts. There truly are no right answers as it is only an opinion that can be formed wholly dependent on your own experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quiet night on big games except for Northport vs Smithtown East

Smithtown East is a VERY young team, not sure of their chances. I think their starting D are three sophomores and a junior, and their goalie is a sophomore. That's a tough ask against Northport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quiet night on big games except for Northport vs Smithtown East

Smithtown East is a VERY young team, not sure of their chances. I think their starting D are three sophomores and a junior, and their goalie is a sophomore. That's a tough ask against Northport

SE lost but good game.

well guess we got that one wrong- 9-1 not exactly a close game

The Score was 11-9 in favor of Northport, not 9-1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quiet night on big games except for Northport vs Smithtown East

Smithtown East is a VERY young team, not sure of their chances. I think their starting D are three sophomores and a junior, and their goalie is a sophomore. That's a tough ask against Northport

SE lost but good game.

Northport does not want to see SE again, or WM, or Floyd again. They will be beat by one of those, and if not those, they will not get through Nassau. Too bad no shot clock. Would be a different game. Hats of to CR, but NP due for a loss. You can only play so many close games before your luck runs out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quiet night on big games except for Northport vs Smithtown East

Smithtown East is a VERY young team, not sure of their chances. I think their starting D are three sophomores and a junior, and their goalie is a sophomore. That's a tough ask against Northport

SE lost but good game.

Northport does not want to see SE again, or WM, or Floyd again. They will be beat by one of those, and if not those, they will not get through Nassau. Too bad no shot clock. Would be a different game. Hats of to CR, but NP due for a loss. You can only play so many close games before your luck runs out

Northport did a good job of avoiding the top teams in both Suffolk and Nassau.

The top Suffolk B and C teams would give Northport a very hard time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top Suffolk B and C teams would give Northport a very hard time.

WB beat Northport 11-7 scrimmage with clock n refs early season. But i know it does not count
But meant alot to both teams that night

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Score was 11-9 in favor of Northport, not 9-1.

9-1 was the score in the Massapequa-CSH game

Whats with the Floyd Commack score? How is that lacrosse??

Southside seems to have new coaches. Two new females on the sideline yesterday.

The Floyd Commack game was actually a good game. That is the kind of game Floyd plays tight defensively. When Northport beat Floyd 6-4 and BayShore beat them 6-5 that was ok and good lacrosse I guess Northport dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside seems to have new coaches. Two new females on the sideline yesterday.

Probably jv coaches. When season ends for jv some ADs ask the jV coaches to go with varsity for playoffs

Suffolk Girls Class C playoffs will be some good games. Seems like a lot of parity this season.

Wide open field! Good luck to all except BBP who is the 1 seed bc of their home game refs. Can’t wait to see them lose! So tired of this nauseating over hyped group.

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

Brackets in Nassau are out, go to Sect 8 website. Let's see how many of those stat seekers teams advance, not many will. Teams with ballhogs are eliminated easily. Most of them play in lower conferences anyway and don't make playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wide open field! Good luck to all except BBP who is the 1 seed bc of their home game refs. Can’t wait to see them lose! So tired of this nauseating over hyped group.

Take some dramamine...you're due for several more losses to this "over hyped group" before the run comes to an end

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

Stats are always subjective, if you are on a very skilled team, usually you will see the points( goals and assists ) spread out. Multiple players scoring every game , because they are playing smart team lacrosse.
Then you might get the kid who has big numbers, but the rest of the team doesn’t , one player does all the scoring. This could be by design, or that player is a ball hog.
Then you get the private school stats, usually they play inferior talent and run up the score and pad their stats. It’s always funny when you see the private school boasting their kids stats vs some start up private school lacrosse team. It’s easy to check and see who the players scored against during the season, that will indicate if they are legit or not. Scoring 7 goals against the worst team in the conference, or did they score against the best team in the confrence. Additionally there are many stats that don’t get recorded that are very important, ground balls, offensive ground balls, defensive ground balls, draw controls, defensive take aways, shooting percentage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wide open field! Good luck to all except BBP who is the 1 seed bc of their home game refs. Can’t wait to see them lose! So tired of this nauseating over hyped group.

Take some dramamine...you're due for several more losses to this "over hyped group" before the run comes to an end

Watching C playoff bracket scores you’re going down to Rocky Point. Don’t cry in my Prosecco!

Congratulations!!

Wave III Girls' UA All-Americans

Attack
Gracie Britton, Christian Brothers Academy (N.Y.), Syracuse
Emily Peek, Notre Dame Prep (Md.), Johns Hopkins

Midfield
Darcy Felter, Penn Charter (Pa.), North Carolina
Maggie Golder, Pennsbury (Pa.), Penn State
Kaleigh Harden, New Canaan (Conn.), North Carolina
Nikki Mennella, Smithtown West (N.Y.), Hofstra
Emma Muchnick, Suffern (N.Y.), Maryland

Defense
Olivia Bruno, Victor (N.Y.), Virginia
Michaela O’Connor, Stone Ridge (Md.), Boston College
Sydney Smith, McDonogh (Md.), Duke

Goal
Lucy Pearson, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.), Stanford

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations!!

Wave III Girls' UA All-Americans

Attack
Gracie Britton, Christian Brothers Academy (N.Y.), Syracuse
Emily Peek, Notre Dame Prep (Md.), Johns Hopkins

Midfield
Darcy Felter, Penn Charter (Pa.), North Carolina
Maggie Golder, Pennsbury (Pa.), Penn State
Kaleigh Harden, New Canaan (Conn.), North Carolina
Nikki Mennella, Smithtown West (N.Y.), Hofstra
Emma Muchnick, Suffern (N.Y.), Maryland

Defense
Olivia Bruno, Victor (N.Y.), Virginia
Michaela O’Connor, Stone Ridge (Md.), Boston College
Sydney Smith, McDonogh (Md.), Duke

Goal
Lucy Pearson, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.), Stanford

I'm curious, don't you have to be on the Watchlist to be selected for the Senior Game? If not, what's the purpose of the Watchlist?

Actually, both coaches sign off on the stats at the end of game and take a photo of both books. Sorry your daughter doesn’t have any. Stats aren’t everything but they do matter. If you have proof of fake stats you should contact Section XI not make outlandish statements with nothing to back it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

I thought I read the team is supposed to be made up of kids from the IL women's top 2022 list and the UA Watchlist. That said there will be a lot of deserving girls who don't get selected and a few who do that are head scratchers. to me this is the highest accolade a High School player can achieve... Congratulations to those who made it.
one more round, Im hoping to see a familiar name

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought I read the team is supposed to be made up of kids from the IL women's top 2022 list and the UA Watchlist. That said there will be a lot of deserving girls who don't get selected and a few who do that are head scratchers. to me this is the highest accolade a High School player can achieve... Congratulations to those who made it.
one more round, Im hoping to see a familiar name

That's interesting because a name is in neither. I was always under the impression that it fed off the UA Watchlist, why is there a watchlist to begin with then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, both coaches sign off on the stats at the end of game and take a photo of both books. Sorry your daughter doesn’t have any. Stats aren’t everything but they do matter. If you have proof of fake stats you should contact Section XI not make outlandish statements with nothing to back it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

It would be great to see them keep stats on "Shots that should not have been taken" the shots that the selfish players take when they shouldn't... whether because of the situation in the game or because they should be making one more pass or because they are too far out or whatever... Many times these shots result in an easy save or miss the cage and result in a turnover either way these foolish shots result in transition for the other team and many times the end up with a goal for the other team.

The refs especially the tall blond were one sided today at the bbp vs rp game.2 second half yellow cards on fouls that were going on all game and lopsided free position calls.bbp must have had a dozen Free position.just ridiculous and totally changed the game in their favor .I felt like rp was beat by the refs.it seemed as though bbp offense was based on drawing shooting space.maybe the team had one assist .their zone defense is tough though.playoff lax needs a shot clock at a minimum.can’t go minutes without trying to get a legit shot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, both coaches sign off on the stats at the end of game and take a photo of both books. Sorry your daughter doesn’t have any. Stats aren’t everything but they do matter. If you have proof of fake stats you should contact Section XI not make outlandish statements with nothing to back it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

It would be great to see them keep stats on "Shots that should not have been taken" the shots that the selfish players take when they shouldn't... whether because of the situation in the game or because they should be making one more pass or because they are too far out or whatever... Many times these shots result in an easy save or miss the cage and result in a turnover either way these foolish shots result in transition for the other team and many times the end up with a goal for the other team.

Couldn’t agree more. Should be counted as a caused turn over when they run through 5 defenders just to not have to pass to any of the open kids in front of the cage and lose the ball. Same with charges. Ball hogs aren’t impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, both coaches sign off on the stats at the end of game and take a photo of both books. Sorry your daughter doesn’t have any. Stats aren’t everything but they do matter. If you have proof of fake stats you should contact Section XI not make outlandish statements with nothing to back it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

It would be great to see them keep stats on "Shots that should not have been taken" the shots that the selfish players take when they shouldn't... whether because of the situation in the game or because they should be making one more pass or because they are too far out or whatever... Many times these shots result in an easy save or miss the cage and result in a turnover either way these foolish shots result in transition for the other team and many times the end up with a goal for the other team.

Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, both coaches sign off on the stats at the end of game and take a photo of both books. Sorry your daughter doesn’t have any. Stats aren’t everything but they do matter. If you have proof of fake stats you should contact Section XI not make outlandish statements with nothing to back it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!

The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

It would be great to see them keep stats on "Shots that should not have been taken" the shots that the selfish players take when they shouldn't... whether because of the situation in the game or because they should be making one more pass or because they are too far out or whatever... Many times these shots result in an easy save or miss the cage and result in a turnover either way these foolish shots result in transition for the other team and many times the end up with a goal for the other team.

Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.

BBP offense puts you in shooting space by working teams, not relying on it. They move the ball fast and close to the 12M. Rocky Point had a good year credit to the kids, and staff but they move the ball around 20-25M away from the goal that’s why they don’t get as many SS calls. So give me a break on the refs thing. RP should have had 2 other yellows earlier in the game as well.

Agree with your comment on shot clock we need it.

The head ref was bbp. best player and it was pretty obvious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The head ref was bbp. best player and it was pretty obvious

It was also obvious that BBP was the better team

Are you guys serious.? Watch the game. BBP was the better team. Anyone can see that. RP was good but just not the better team - watch the game. Teach sportsmanship to your kids that applies to both teams but BBP deserved the win and they got it hands down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Really? Isn't McD head coach Taylor Cummings or am I mistaken? What high schools do you think have great coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Really? Isn't McD head coach Taylor Cummings or am I mistaken? What high schools do you think have great coaching?

Don’t assume that great players mean great coaches. As for the iaam, all I can tell you is that I saw SPSG absolutely roll every team in indoor. I know it isn’t the same game but it wasn’t even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Really? Isn't McD head coach Taylor Cummings or am I mistaken? What high schools do you think have great coaching?

Don’t assume that great players mean great coaches. As for the iaam, all I can tell you is that I saw SPSG absolutely roll every team in indoor. I know it isn’t the same game but it wasn’t even close.

Just curious why do you think in SPSG's case, it's good coaching but not in McD's case?

Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves[/quote]

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.[/quote]
There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.[/quote]
There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.[/quote]

It's still not apples to apples, even teams in the same division or conference don't play the same schedule of opponents. Some teams that are ranked in middle of pack or bottom of pack will feast on the worst competition. Highly ranked teams play the toughest schedule of opponents, that's what power ranking schedules does. That's why you always see a few high stat kids from weak programs. At least in Suffolk anyway....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.

There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.[/quote]

It's still not apples to apples, even teams in the same division or conference don't play the same schedule of opponents. Some teams that are ranked in middle of pack or bottom of pack will feast on the worst competition. Highly ranked teams play the toughest schedule of opponents, that's what power ranking schedules does. That's why you always see a few high stat kids from weak programs. At least in Suffolk anyway....[/quote]

Totally. The stat reporting in Newsday is ridiculous way to judge LI players. Total wrong picture of what’s really happening on the LI LAX scene. Should No way lump conferences and the stats all together like that. It’s useless stats, that have no real insight to the best players. Save the stats for the playoff games and maybe then ,can get a better picture of the best players and their stats?

That won't work either. There are decent players on bad teams that don't make the playoffs. Those are usually the ones feasting on poor competition, but to only use playoff stats isn't fair either

Everyone is so focused on either goals and assists,how about caused turnover and ground balls being the game changers.we never see those status

My daughter's team has a really good defense, works the ball around for a good shot, never beats up the weaker teams too badly, and lets the younger players get in there when the game is out of reach. None of the girls are even close to being on these inflated stat lists. They had a great season. As a team. Ground balls, caused turnovers, draw controls, saving balls that could have been turnovers, pulling it out on free positions to keep possession. These things won games.

Unless a premium is placed on stat keeping, like it is in basketball, schools will never pay someone to "keep the book" like they do in basketball. Some coaches do it on their own but not all. Most times a bench kid or a team manger keeps the stats. Many times these people don't have a trained eye for the game and caused turnovers, ground balls, draw controls etc are missed. As it is, many assists are missed or wrongly credited because many people don't even know what constitutes an assist and what doesn't. Really only goals are the only correct stat that is kept, that includes saves as well.

If player A is in conf 3 and has 75 points that would most likely be equivalent to having 55 points in conf 2 and 30 points in conf 1. it doesn’t mean conf 3 and 4 doesn’t have some good quality players but I think it’s fair to say if you score 40 goals in conf 1 you would prob be good for 75~90 in conf 2 or 3. Stats should be listed by conf like they are separated by county and private/public.

Has the voting taken place for All-Americans yet? Looks like it will be dominated by Juniors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has the voting taken place for All-Americans yet? Looks like it will be dominated by Juniors

Not sure. Think coaches had to nominate already. Yes I agree juniors will dominate them in Nassau.
A few AA nods are obvious, few made it last year as well, but I would say a few spots will be interesting. will there be any outside of conf 1 in section 8???

Couldn’t agree more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has the voting taken place for All-Americans yet? Looks like it will be dominated by Juniors

Not sure. Think coaches had to nominate already. Yes I agree juniors will dominate them in Nassau.
A few AA nods are obvious, few made it last year as well, but I would say a few spots will be interesting. will there be any outside of conf 1 in section 8???

Not likely. Inflated stats against lesser competition. Those players need to produce against the top teams.

How many are selected

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many are selected

Coach gets to pick a certain number of All County based on their record. Those girls are normally also nominated for AA, which is voted on by all of the coaches. They normally pick the players who stood out as game changers and showed good sportsmanship. Not necessarily stat leaders. Upperclassman are also favored. It’s rare for sophomores to be awarded AA. The AAs are normally announced at the county dinner which I hear is not happening in Suffolk this year, a shame after all these girls have been through!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you guys serious.? Watch the game. BBP was the better team. Anyone can see that. RP was good but just not the better team - watch the game. Teach sportsmanship to your kids that applies to both teams but BBP deserved the win and they got it hands down.

What was the final score? Never posted on Newsday or Section XI. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If player A is in conf 3 and has 75 points that would most likely be equivalent to having 55 points in conf 2 and 30 points in conf 1. it doesn’t mean conf 3 and 4 doesn’t have some good quality players but I think it’s fair to say if you score 40 goals in conf 1 you would prob be good for 75~90 in conf 2 or 3. Stats should be listed by conf like they are separated by county and private/public.

Totally agree. I've already suggested this to Newsday, more people need to email this suggestion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If player A is in conf 3 and has 75 points that would most likely be equivalent to having 55 points in conf 2 and 30 points in conf 1. it doesn’t mean conf 3 and 4 doesn’t have some good quality players but I think it’s fair to say if you score 40 goals in conf 1 you would prob be good for 75~90 in conf 2 or 3. Stats should be listed by conf like they are separated by county and private/public.

Totally agree. I've already suggested this to Newsday, more people need to email this suggestion

Will do. No point in posting stats the way they do it now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you guys serious.? Watch the game. BBP was the better team. Anyone can see that. RP was good but just not the better team - watch the game. Teach sportsmanship to your kids that applies to both teams but BBP deserved the win and they got it hands down.

What was the final score? Never posted on Newsday or Section XI. Thanks

7-4 was the final.I think it was 2-2 at half.had the calls gone to RP it would have been tighter but that was the difference.bbp field looks smaller from a normal size field.just what it looked like to me but there was less room in the mid field especially at the draw circle.

Wait….”had the calls gone to RP it would have been tighter. That was the difference”. The Difference was a BBP team that dominated the second half and the score would have been much Less tight if not for RP’s fantastic goalie. RP could barely get inside the 12 meter, let alone shoot. THAT was the difference.

BBP plays on a smaller field. Is well coached and has gotten favorable officiating. Let’s see what happens Wed

Couldn’t get inside the 12 meter.it took your team almost the whole first half to score and it wasn’t until the ref called 4 consecutive free positions in row.we played you at rp a totally different game on a real field with pretty much equal officiating.Oh let me guess that was a close game due to the jet lag the team had from playing in Maryland.Get over yourselves if we were man up for 2 yellow cards in the second half and multiple free positions which your offense is based on.too bad there wasn’t a shot clock this year you wouldn’t be able to stall and slow the game down to a crawl.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP plays on a smaller field. Is well coached and has gotten favorable officiating. Let’s see what happens Wed

BBP has a bunch of decent but not great players. Coach knows how to make the most of what he has and win games. I can say from my own daughter’s team who has more individual talent that the coach can’t control the selfish behavior. I think this is the theme I see with other top Suffolk teams like Northport

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Really? Isn't McD head coach Taylor Cummings or am I mistaken? What high schools do you think have great coaching?

Don’t assume that great players mean great coaches. As for the iaam, all I can tell you is that I saw SPSG absolutely roll every team in indoor. I know it isn’t the same game but it wasn’t even close.

Just curious why do you think in SPSG's case, it's good coaching but not in McD's case?

My niece plays for spsg, and I actually went down to a few games this year and last and saw them play mcdonogh both years. It’s clear that mcd coaches the way that tc played. Drive with their best talent and hopefully draw a shot from the 8. I am not sure if I even saw more than 1 assist a game from tc’s team. Also, spsg defense is well coached and strong athletes who simply wouldn’t allow their offense to actually do anything. Think spsg has beaten mcd 4 times in a row by an average of 7-8 goals a game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP plays on a smaller field. Is well coached and has gotten favorable officiating. Let’s see what happens Wed

BBP has a bunch of decent but not great players. Coach knows how to make the most of what he has and win games. I can say from my own daughter’s team who has more individual talent that the coach can’t control the selfish behavior. I think this is the theme I see with other top Suffolk teams like Northport

BBP coach stalls and holds the ball he’d be put of business with a shot clock. The BBP scores look like hockey scores.

Northport going into stall mode with 13 minutes left in the 2nd half of a County Semi is the reason this Sport needs a shot clock.

Since your calling out players on other teams, what team does your daughter play on that has such great uncontrollable talent?

I challenge you to watch the BBP games this season and give specific times bbp stalled?. The RP play off game at the end was the only time and looked more like it was done out of pay back. RP stalled several times during the regular season game even had the ball over 8 minutes passing. They got a taste of their own medicine and didn't like it. BBP if anything moves to quick to take shots and has a tough defense- the shot clock would make beating them harder!.

Bbp scores look like hockey scores? Why comment something anyone can see is untrue. Most scores were blowouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since your calling out players on other teams, what team does your daughter play on that has such great uncontrollable talent?

Check the college commitment list and you will see where the most talented girls play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp scores look like hockey scores? Why comment something anyone can see is untrue. Most scores were blowouts.

1-1 vs RP at the half seems like a hockey score.

Anyone know why Suffolk County is not having a lax awards dinner? Is Nassau?

I’m looking and don’t see any from RP sorry…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why Suffolk County is not having a lax awards dinner? Is Nassau?

Nassau is having an awards dinner in June.

Oh. OK - Got it. You were talking about one game. Not All season!! Correction half a game. Lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m looking and don’t see any from RP sorry…

RP has 8 or 9 committed to play in college.5 of them D1

Besides the commits; RP has a good group of underclass players that will be D1 commits. They will be even better next year.

Good point.!! Looks like BBP has the most in 2023 8 D1 commits. Is there another school close to that

If Suffolk was having a dinner the date probably would have Been announced by now.There was no dinner for soccer in the fall so it may be a section xi thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good point.!! Looks like BBP has the most in 2023 8 D1 commits. Is there another school close to that

Quality not quantity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good point.!! Looks like BBP has the most in 2023 8 D1 commits. Is there another school close to that

Where are they going is the question

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good point.!! Looks like BBP has the most in 2023 8 D1 commits. Is there another school close to that

Where are they going is the question

Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Yale, Navy, Hofstra, Albany, and Quinnipiac... not too shabby... Quality and quantity!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good point.!! Looks like BBP has the most in 2023 8 D1 commits. Is there another school close to that

Where are they going is the question

Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Yale, Navy, Hofstra, Albany, and Quinnipiac... not too shabby... Quality and quantity!

The whole legacy team!

Actually legacy, YJ and top guns!!

I must say if there are 515 pages of comments- 500 of them are from Suffolk. Think it is Suffolk thing to brag about beating weak competition. But there are more top ranked teams in Nassau- only wished that it was more than 1 team from each county/ conference that played each other in playoffs. Class A is poorly represented in Nassau, but Class C would dominate Suffolk with most of the Top10 on LI coming from Nassau in this class. Or maybe expand the Nassau power conference to include some Suffolk "POWER" teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why Suffolk County is not having a lax awards dinner? Is Nassau?

Nassau is having an awards dinner in June.

suffolk is not having a dinner. It is not a section xi thing. Its the suffolk county girls lacrosse coaches association who decided not to honor our girls. The association should be embarrassed! This will be year three of no awards dinner. These kids look foward to that night. All coaches who are not doing anything to make it happen are at fault also! We produce the best lacrosse players in the country and chose not to honor. them again. Its a disgrace.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why Suffolk County is not having a lax awards dinner? Is Nassau?

Nassau is having an awards dinner in June.

suffolk is not having a dinner. It is not a section xi thing. Its the suffolk county girls lacrosse coaches association who decided not to honor our girls. The association should be embarrassed! This will be year three of no awards dinner. These kids look foward to that night. All coaches who are not doing anything to make it happen are at fault also! We produce the best lacrosse players in the country and chose not to honor. them again. Its a disgrace.

Wow that's terrible. Every parent should voice their displeasure to their section and coaches organization. If someone has the info post a link.

Coach said they book that about a year in advance. We were still wearing masks at that point in the fall. Would be tough to book awards night for 600-700 people if that’s the case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach said they book that about a year in advance. We were still wearing masks at that point in the fall. Would be tough to book awards night for 600-700 people if that’s the case.

association took the easy way out. Lots Coaches look at dinner as a hassle. Not right at all. Shame on association!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why Suffolk County is not having a lax awards dinner? Is Nassau?

Nassau is having an awards dinner in June.

suffolk is not having a dinner. It is not a section xi thing. Its the suffolk county girls lacrosse coaches association who decided not to honor our girls. The association should be embarrassed! This will be year three of no awards dinner. These kids look foward to that night. All coaches who are not doing anything to make it happen are at fault also! We produce the best lacrosse players in the country and chose not to honor. them again. Its a disgrace.

Suffolk County should be embarrassed! Totally dropped the ball on this. If Nassau can figure it out, they can too! Disgrace.

This is exactly right. East Wind needed a commitment in the winter and with the rise in numbers at the time it didn't make sense to commit financially if they weren't sure it would happen. All of these kids get recognition at their own team dinners, through social media etc. If you have been to this event, there are 600-700 people. Everyone talks over all the presentations and people leave as soon as their kids receive their awards. It is def. not a very personalized night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach said they book that about a year in advance. We were still wearing masks at that point in the fall. Would be tough to book awards night for 600-700 people if that’s the case.

Lol, practically every other sport figured it out. Suffolk boys are having a dinner. Ridiculous and Lazy excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is exactly right. East Wind needed a commitment in the winter and with the rise in numbers at the time it didn't make sense to commit financially if they weren't sure it would happen. All of these kids get recognition at their own team dinners, through social media etc. If you have been to this event, there are 600-700 people. Everyone talks over all the presentations and people leave as soon as their kids receive their awards. It is def. not a very personalized night.

really you must be one of the coaches who dropped the ball. Basketball had their dinner in the middle of the rise they had 600-700 people there.
complete BS! Most high schools do not have a dinner so your wrong.
Who is in charge of association? And the kids love it lots!! maybe not parents and coaches. But who is it suppose to be about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why Suffolk County is not having a lax awards dinner? Is Nassau?

Nassau is having an awards dinner in June.

suffolk is not having a dinner. It is not a section xi thing. Its the suffolk county girls lacrosse coaches association who decided not to honor our girls. The association should be embarrassed! This will be year three of no awards dinner. These kids look foward to that night. All coaches who are not doing anything to make it happen are at fault also! We produce the best lacrosse players in the country and chose not to honor. them again. Its a disgrace.

Suffolk County should be embarrassed! Totally dropped the ball on this. If Nassau can figure it out, they can too! Disgrace.

There are plenty of places dying to book events and make up for lost revenue. Excuses, excuses and don't hide behind the covid rise, buy a ticket and stay home it's your choice, the girls should be given their night

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is exactly right. East Wind needed a commitment in the winter and with the rise in numbers at the time it didn't make sense to commit financially if they weren't sure it would happen. All of these kids get recognition at their own team dinners, through social media etc. If you have been to this event, there are 600-700 people. Everyone talks over all the presentations and people leave as soon as their kids receive their awards. It is def. not a very personalized night.

really you must be one of the coaches who dropped the ball. Basketball had their dinner in the middle of the rise they had 600-700 people there.
complete BS! Most high schools do not have a dinner so your wrong.
Who is in charge of association? And the kids love it lots!! maybe not parents and coaches. But who is it suppose to be about.

It's supposed to be about the kids,. Just take a look at the names leading the organization, if it's not about themselves or their pockets they're not interested.

We can all voice our opinions on here about how disrespectful and disgraceful it is to not have a dinner.The only way to make changes is remove the people in power and clean the swamp.
Soccer did the same thing,it just comes down to some folks just don’t want to do their jobs wether it getting paid or volunteer.The varsity coaches are almost all to blame for not standing up for their players.I think there is a committee and chairman who is directly responsible.Blow up his/her email and phone

Despite the fact the the girls were robbed of precious memories that they can never get back, we have some big showdowns tomorrow in Suffolk. I have Northport by 3

Are Nassau semi finals being streamed this week?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We can all voice our opinions on here about how disrespectful and disgraceful it is to not have a dinner.The only way to make changes is remove the people in power and clean the swamp.
Soccer did the same thing,it just comes down to some folks just don’t want to do their jobs wether it getting paid or volunteer.The varsity coaches are almost all to blame for not standing up for their players.I think there is a committee and chairman who is directly responsible.Blow up his/her email and phone

Would love to! Who is in charge? I cannot believe the incompetent lazy coach that commented blaming COVID. Just plain embarrassing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Nassau semi finals being streamed this week?

I think only the Class C semi finals are being live streamed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Nassau semi finals being streamed this week?

I think only the Class C semi finals are being live streamed.

whose streaming them?

Looks like a couple of refs submitted their resumes for summer jobs to CR during the NP v WM game.

Northport survives another close one thanks to the refs calling a fake charge which should have actually been a foul on NP for running into a player. Watch the film, terrible call

Bad call?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like a couple of refs submitted their resumes for summer jobs to CR during the NP v WM game.

It’s sad this has to even be said. Officiating was awful this year. The game needs to change: shot clock, calling more charges and dangerous shots, counting fouls (like basketball), while also adding another official might make it less skewed towards hyper-aggressive one dimensional players.

Ok now wat they won bbp did the take ther so called ref with them to game

Let’s not forget about the red card issued to the WM
Player for a push ? Nothing flagrant

BBP brought their home field ref to todays game who helped them win 10-4. Even on the field. Not in the flag category.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

3 officials did this game. They should go review their work.

Wildly running through the 8 into defenders is a charge not shooting space, extending your arms and cross into an offensive player is a cross check, and for a non contact sport, SWR girls were knocked to the ground a lot with no consequence. Too many girls on the field is a delay of game.

It’s not opinion, those are the rules in the handbook. Highly rated officials should know them.

Good luck to BBP in the LIC.

WM struggling with the loss huh?

Same happened in the RP game.totally one sided almost intentional in the second half.The NP vs WM refs should not be allowed to ref again period just awful.
At the end the the WH vs coms before OT was just a mess of officiating as well.starting and stopping for no reason

You don't need to add another bad official the field. They need to recruit young women who played the game in college and now work on Long Island to become officials.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

3 officials did this game. They should go review their work.

Wildly running through the 8 into defenders is a charge not shooting space, extending your arms and cross into an offensive player is a cross check, and for a non contact sport, SWR girls were knocked to the ground a lot with no consequence. Too many girls on the field is a delay of game.

It’s not opinion, those are the rules in the handbook. Highly rated officials should know them.

Good luck to BBP in the LIC.

Same kind of nonsense in the NP game. Officials decided the game when they called a charge on WM. You can watch for yourself on LILJ Insta. NP defender deliberately ran into the WM girl. You have to have feet planted for a charge call. WM should have had a free position and would have tied the game there. This is just one example of a multitude of bad calls on WM. Not saying WM would have won, but the game would have not been decided by a bad ref call. The girls deserve better

Old men who probably never played men’s lacrosse shouldn’t be officiating women’s games.The refs should be accountable and have repercussions for poor officiating.Most games are on tape so it’s not one team or coaches word against another.there should be a governing body for such.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

3 officials did this game. They should go review their work.

Wildly running through the 8 into defenders is a charge not shooting space, extending your arms and cross into an offensive player is a cross check, and for a non contact sport, SWR girls were knocked to the ground a lot with no consequence. Too many girls on the field is a delay of game.

It’s not opinion, those are the rules in the handbook. Highly rated officials should know them.

Good luck to BBP in the LIC.

Same kind of nonsense in the NP game. Officials decided the game when they called a charge on WM. You can watch for yourself on LILJ Insta. NP defender deliberately ran into the WM girl. You have to have feet planted for a charge call. WM should have had a free position and would have tied the game there. This is just one example of a multitude of bad calls on WM. Not saying WM would have won, but the game would have not been decided by a bad ref call. The girls deserve better

SCLOA would love to have all you experts. First try taking an officials course online to see how little you really know.

Just ref the game with the rules that are in place too much cross checking and physical play. Thats why we have 3-2 game finals and that's with an overtime. No one wants to watch skilled players be mauled all game by players instructed by coaches to do so. Then call the kids floppers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

3 officials did this game. They should go review their work.

Wildly running through the 8 into defenders is a charge not shooting space, extending your arms and cross into an offensive player is a cross check, and for a non contact sport, SWR girls were knocked to the ground a lot with no consequence. Too many girls on the field is a delay of game.

It’s not opinion, those are the rules in the handbook. Highly rated officials should know them.

Good luck to BBP in the LIC.

Same kind of nonsense in the NP game. Officials decided the game when they called a charge on WM. You can watch for yourself on LILJ Insta. NP defender deliberately ran into the WM girl. You have to have feet planted for a charge call. WM should have had a free position and would have tied the game there. This is just one example of a multitude of bad calls on WM. Not saying WM would have won, but the game would have not been decided by a bad ref call. The girls deserve better

SCLOA would love to have all you experts. First try taking an officials course online to see how little you really know.

For you and all the other know it all parents in BBP and Northport who feel your win was not aided by poor officiating- Major fouls from US Lacrosse rules book: Maybe read them before you take issue with someone complaining about the officiating. I can guarantee the film of these games will include all of the fouls below committed by both teams in any game. Either ignore them for both teams or enforce them for both teams at least be consistent and at a minimum, call the fouls that could lead to a players injury.

2. CHARGING A player may not charge, barge, push or back into (thereby making contact with) an opponent who has already established a legal body position. MAJOR FOUL CONSIDERATIONS: BLOCK / CHARGE Body Contact Any decision related to body contact is a judgement call which must be made with regard to the following principles: • It is the duty of each player not to initiate illegal contact USA LACROSSE WOMEN’S OFFICIALS’ MANUAL 51 A D A D Charge by Attack Charge by Attack A D Charge by Attack • Any player is entitled to a legal field position, provided that the player does not cause contact in taking such a position and that the player allows the opponent a chance to stop and/or change direction, thus avoiding contact • Incidental contact will occur in the game of women’s lacrosse. When contact occurs, the official must determine if the contact was incidental or illegal. If illegal, the player initiating the contact is responsible for the foul and shall be penalized

5. DANGEROUS CONTACT (MANDATORY CARD) Any action that thrusts or shoves any player (with or without the ball) who is in a defenseless position. This includes but is not limited to: head down, from out of the visual field, in the air, or out of balance, especially in the kidneys, ribs, lower back, shoulder blades or aimed at the neck or head.

7. DANGEROUS PLAY a. Player actions that are rough, threatening, and /or are without regard to player safety. May be carded. b. Official’s judgment must consider skill level and safety of players. Preventative officiating can help deescalate dangerous play.

11. FORCING THROUGH A player, while in possession of the ball, may not try to force their stick through an opposing stick(s).

18. ILLEGAL STICK TO BODY CONTACT A player may not lower the head of the stick into a horizontal position and make stick to body contact with any opponent. Horizontal Stick a. A horizontal stick held by a player who is participating in play is in an illegal position. If stick-to-body or body-tostick contact occurs by a player whose stick is in a horizontal position, a foul will be called on that player. A horizontal stick is defined as one where the head of the stick is below 10 o’clock or 2 o’clock. b. “Meet and greet” contact between opponents when sticks are held in legal, upright positions is considered legal play. c. If an attack player charges into a defender who has their stick in a legal position, it is a foul on the attack only. If the defense has her stick in an illegal (horizontal) position, both players are committing fouls and the result is an alternating possession. d. If an attack player is setting a pick on an opponent and is holding the stick in a horizontal position, this is a foul on the attack if contact is made with the stick. e. A defender may drop the stick into a horizontal position to fill passing lanes, shadow an opponent’s stick and occupy more space provided there is no contact. Cross Check Players are not permitted to use the shaft of the stick to hit, push, or displace an opponent. This includes but is not limited to thrusting, jabbing, pushing, or displacing any part of an opponent’s body.

20. PUSHING A player may not push the opponent with a hand or with the body.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

3 officials did this game. They should go review their work.

Wildly running through the 8 into defenders is a charge not shooting space, extending your arms and cross into an offensive player is a cross check, and for a non contact sport, SWR girls were knocked to the ground a lot with no consequence. Too many girls on the field is a delay of game.

It’s not opinion, those are the rules in the handbook. Highly rated officials should know them.

Good luck to BBP in the LIC.

Same kind of nonsense in the NP game. Officials decided the game when they called a charge on WM. You can watch for yourself on LILJ Insta. NP defender deliberately ran into the WM girl. You have to have feet planted for a charge call. WM should have had a free position and would have tied the game there. This is just one example of a multitude of bad calls on WM. Not saying WM would have won, but the game would have not been decided by a bad ref call. The girls deserve better

Feet do not have to be planted for a charge call

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

3 officials did this game. They should go review their work.

Wildly running through the 8 into defenders is a charge not shooting space, extending your arms and cross into an offensive player is a cross check, and for a non contact sport, SWR girls were knocked to the ground a lot with no consequence. Too many girls on the field is a delay of game.

It’s not opinion, those are the rules in the handbook. Highly rated officials should know them.

Good luck to BBP in the LIC.

Same kind of nonsense in the NP game. Officials decided the game when they called a charge on WM. You can watch for yourself on LILJ Insta. NP defender deliberately ran into the WM girl. You have to have feet planted for a charge call. WM should have had a free position and would have tied the game there. This is just one example of a multitude of bad calls on WM. Not saying WM would have won, but the game would have not been decided by a bad ref call. The girls deserve better

Feet do not have to be planted for a charge call

That’s what was explained to me by a coach, didn’t know that. Still in this case, the foul should have been on the NP defender for running into the offensive player and knocking her to the ground. Was there another explanation for what happened? That’s what I saw.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bbp will destroy swr on wed…..wont even be close!

5-3 at half. 10-6 final. 4 goal win when refs gave BBP every call is not destruction.

3 officials did this game. They should go review their work.

Wildly running through the 8 into defenders is a charge not shooting space, extending your arms and cross into an offensive player is a cross check, and for a non contact sport, SWR girls were knocked to the ground a lot with no consequence. Too many girls on the field is a delay of game.

It’s not opinion, those are the rules in the handbook. Highly rated officials should know them.

Good luck to BBP in the LIC.

Same kind of nonsense in the NP game. Officials decided the game when they called a charge on WM. You can watch for yourself on LILJ Insta. NP defender deliberately ran into the WM girl. You have to have feet planted for a charge call. WM should have had a free position and would have tied the game there. This is just one example of a multitude of bad calls on WM. Not saying WM would have won, but the game would have not been decided by a bad ref call. The girls deserve better

SCLOA would love to have all you experts. First try taking an officials course online to see how little you really know.

For you and all the other know it all parents in BBP and Northport who feel your win was not aided by poor officiating- Major fouls from US Lacrosse rules book: Maybe read them before you take issue with someone complaining about the officiating. I can guarantee the film of these games will include all of the fouls below committed by both teams in any game. Either ignore them for both teams or enforce them for both teams at least be consistent and at a minimum, call the fouls that could lead to a players injury.

2. CHARGING A player may not charge, barge, push or back into (thereby making contact with) an opponent who has already established a legal body position. MAJOR FOUL CONSIDERATIONS: BLOCK / CHARGE Body Contact Any decision related to body contact is a judgement call which must be made with regard to the following principles: • It is the duty of each player not to initiate illegal contact USA LACROSSE WOMEN’S OFFICIALS’ MANUAL 51 A D A D Charge by Attack Charge by Attack A D Charge by Attack • Any player is entitled to a legal field position, provided that the player does not cause contact in taking such a position and that the player allows the opponent a chance to stop and/or change direction, thus avoiding contact • Incidental contact will occur in the game of women’s lacrosse. When contact occurs, the official must determine if the contact was incidental or illegal. If illegal, the player initiating the contact is responsible for the foul and shall be penalized

5. DANGEROUS CONTACT (MANDATORY CARD) Any action that thrusts or shoves any player (with or without the ball) who is in a defenseless position. This includes but is not limited to: head down, from out of the visual field, in the air, or out of balance, especially in the kidneys, ribs, lower back, shoulder blades or aimed at the neck or head.

7. DANGEROUS PLAY a. Player actions that are rough, threatening, and /or are without regard to player safety. May be carded. b. Official’s judgment must consider skill level and safety of players. Preventative officiating can help deescalate dangerous play.

11. FORCING THROUGH A player, while in possession of the ball, may not try to force their stick through an opposing stick(s).

18. ILLEGAL STICK TO BODY CONTACT A player may not lower the head of the stick into a horizontal position and make stick to body contact with any opponent. Horizontal Stick a. A horizontal stick held by a player who is participating in play is in an illegal position. If stick-to-body or body-tostick contact occurs by a player whose stick is in a horizontal position, a foul will be called on that player. A horizontal stick is defined as one where the head of the stick is below 10 o’clock or 2 o’clock. b. “Meet and greet” contact between opponents when sticks are held in legal, upright positions is considered legal play. c. If an attack player charges into a defender who has their stick in a legal position, it is a foul on the attack only. If the defense has her stick in an illegal (horizontal) position, both players are committing fouls and the result is an alternating possession. d. If an attack player is setting a pick on an opponent and is holding the stick in a horizontal position, this is a foul on the attack if contact is made with the stick. e. A defender may drop the stick into a horizontal position to fill passing lanes, shadow an opponent’s stick and occupy more space provided there is no contact. Cross Check Players are not permitted to use the shaft of the stick to hit, push, or displace an opponent. This includes but is not limited to thrusting, jabbing, pushing, or displacing any part of an opponent’s body.

20. PUSHING A player may not push the opponent with a hand or with the body.

So the SWR charges that were instead awarded FP shots were ok... but the BBP ones werent? right.... And all of the dangerous contact by the SWR players after whistles that were not called... somehow that was the refs favoring BBP, too? Get a grip... you lost fair and square, and it wasnt even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok now wat they won bbp did the take ther so called ref with them to game

Are you having a stroke?

I would love to play bbp with no refs.we’ll see who wins and who gets laid out.without the calls bbp is nothing.both their semi and final games were decided in the second half by the refs.that’s the common denominator in those games.I would love to see a stat of how many free positions goals they scored as opposed to an actual assist or dodge.from what I’ve seen bbp runs in and tries to draw shooting space.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would love to play bbp with no refs.we’ll see who wins and who gets laid out.without the calls bbp is nothing.both their semi and final games were decided in the second half by the refs.that’s the common denominator in those games.I would love to see a stat of how many free positions goals they scored as opposed to an actual assist or dodge.from what I’ve seen bbp runs in and tries to draw shooting space.

Keep going... keep exposing your lack of knowledge of the game, and your one-sided analysis... just because you say it, doesnt mean its true... you lost. its ok... move on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would love to play bbp with no refs.we’ll see who wins and who gets laid out.without the calls bbp is nothing.both their semi and final games were decided in the second half by the refs.that’s the common denominator in those games.I would love to see a stat of how many free positions goals they scored as opposed to an actual assist or dodge.from what I’ve seen bbp runs in and tries to draw shooting space.

This has to be a dad who doesn’t understand the game and still living in terms of when I played….
Drawing shooting space means that the team is playing bad or illegal defense. You aren’t talking about driving to draw contact or a charge which I get could be viewed as arbitrary by refs but shooting space is Easy call for the refs when a team plays bad defense.

It’s arbitrarily one sided.bbp doesn’t do anything different than other teams .the only difference is they get the call by charging in after they waste 3-4 minutes passing it around way outside the 8 meter.a shot clock is needed to stop stalling teams like bbp and make them go to goal within 90 seconds.it’s hard to play “great defense”when you have to defend for excessive amounts of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s arbitrarily one sided.bbp doesn’t do anything different than other teams .the only difference is they get the call by charging in after they waste 3-4 minutes passing it around way outside the 8 meter.a shot clock is needed to stop stalling teams like bbp and make them go to goal within 90 seconds.it’s hard to play “great defense”when you have to defend for excessive amounts of time.

This is getting comical now... BBP was one of the highest scoring teams in Division II this year... how is that stalling? If anything its evidence they are clearly better than the other teams, since these other teams that "dont stall", also dont score as much! Please stop being foolish. Move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s arbitrarily one sided.bbp doesn’t do anything different than other teams .the only difference is they get the call by charging in after they waste 3-4 minutes passing it around way outside the 8 meter.a shot clock is needed to stop stalling teams like bbp and make them go to goal within 90 seconds.it’s hard to play “great defense”when you have to defend for excessive amounts of time.

Sounds like an effective strategy.

Are all the county winners decided? what are the future match-ups for LIC?

Maybe next time SWR should let their coaches start & play the best players instead of lax dads deciding who gets to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are all the county winners decided? what are the future match-ups for LIC?

Nassau still has to play it championships and Class C still has semifinals).

Friday (5/27):
Class A: Massapequa vs Syosset
Class D: Carle Place vs CSH

Tuesday (5/31):
Class B: Garden City vs Long Beach
Class C: Wantagh/South Side vs Manhasset/North Shore (semifinals are today)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe next time SWR should let their coaches start & play the best players instead of lax dads deciding who gets to play.

so true

Who on swr didn’t play that’s not one of there best players in the county finals.I don’t think you make it this far by sitting your better players unless your that deep of a roster.let me guess they beat sayville with second stringers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe next time SWR should let their coaches start & play the best players instead of lax dads deciding who gets to play.

so true

Lol- enjoy your summer. Your team played multiple lineups throughout the season. Stats show multiple girls with points more this year then last. Your new coach got you to the county finals and you lost by 4 to the #1 seed. Same roster won 6 games last season. Get a grip swr parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bad call?

was the right call...saw game and the film.... ran right into player and girl could have been very hurt. that was 100% THE right call. its about safety

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe next time SWR should let their coaches start & play the best players instead of lax dads deciding who gets to play.

Agreed. Lax dad with agenda needs to take a lap and get a life.

Looks like the defender ran right into the cutting offensive player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe next time SWR should let their coaches start & play the best players instead of lax dads deciding who gets to play.

Agreed. Lax dad with agenda needs to take a lap and get a life.

Sorry you and your supporters feel the need to go on this forum and complain. You should be proud of your daughter and her teammates bc they had a great season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM struggling with the loss huh?

cleary this is that nut job dad screaming every call out from the top of the stands. too bad we can't post photos and videos of his ridiculous behavior. bet he ran home to jump on botc to rage....lmao

Clearly changes need to be made on the varsity level.college rules need to be in play and we could all agree it not easy being a ref but they need in influx of youth and IMO women have have played the game.An old man giving out yellow cards who never played lacrosse and can’t run down the field is not acceptable for the girls and landscape of li lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly changes need to be made on the varsity level.college rules need to be in play and we could all agree it not easy being a ref but they need in influx of youth and IMO women have have played the game.An old man giving out yellow cards who never played lacrosse and can’t run down the field is not acceptable for the girls and landscape of li lax

I agree there is an urgent need of young qualified officials. i'm not sure anything will change soon since nobody wants to officiate. Some of the current officials are so immobile they try to make calls from 30 yards away because they can't run the field. Players have gotten faster and stronger but the officiating has not kept pace. I am in no way bashing the officials we just need more and younger. Also the HS rules need serious attention. The game is played on an entirely different level in college and it's beautiful to watch, hs girls not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly changes need to be made on the varsity level.college rules need to be in play and we could all agree it not easy being a ref but they need in influx of youth and IMO women have have played the game.An old man giving out yellow cards who never played lacrosse and can’t run down the field is not acceptable for the girls and landscape of li lax

I agree there is an urgent need of young qualified officials. i'm not sure anything will change soon since nobody wants to officiate. Some of the current officials are so immobile they try to make calls from 30 yards away because they can't run the field. Players have gotten faster and stronger but the officiating has not kept pace. I am in no way bashing the officials we just need more and younger. Also the HS rules need serious attention. The game is played on an entirely different level in college and it's beautiful to watch, hs girls not so much.

100% and exactly why so many people are so frustrated!!

OMG!!! Then do it yourself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly changes need to be made on the varsity level.college rules need to be in play and we could all agree it not easy being a ref but they need in influx of youth and IMO women have have played the game.An old man giving out yellow cards who never played lacrosse and can’t run down the field is not acceptable for the girls and landscape of li lax

Go to a game and listen to the parents screaming at the officials. Most parents do not know the rules. Since HS went to self start many older officials decided to stop doing games. With the current amount of officials they can barely cover all of the games on the schedule. The officials make $121 a game... when you factor in abuse from coaches and parents, travel 45 minutes to and from the game, and personal schedules it makes it not very appealing to younger people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly changes need to be made on the varsity level.college rules need to be in play and we could all agree it not easy being a ref but they need in influx of youth and IMO women have have played the game.An old man giving out yellow cards who never played lacrosse and can’t run down the field is not acceptable for the girls and landscape of li lax

2 types of official of the girls on LI. 1; can't make it up and down the field without medical attention 2; never played the women's game and blows the whistle every second because they heard sticks hit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM struggling with the loss huh?

cleary this is that nut job dad screaming every call out from the top of the stands. too bad we can't post photos and videos of his ridiculous behavior. bet he ran home to jump on botc to rage....lmao

Not the nut case Dad but a WM Dad who sat and listened to the NP crowd cry and whine about every call they didn’t get or went against them the first time they played at WM.
It was evident the number of calls was extremely lopsided. It began right from the start when Maureen overturned a call that she wasn’t even in position to make.

I know the dad being referred to, he’s a good person, guilty caring, passionate, a fighter.

“Never Judge a person until you walk a mile in their shoes…

This way, your a mile away, and you have their shoes”.

Seriously.. stop being a cyber bully, you coward, should have said something in person.

So sad to watch the nonsense in Suffolk with all of these teams and parents- Nassau class C semi's yesterday well officiated, good games, winning teams deserved it and played well. Should be good game Man vs Want two of the top teams in Country, hope for the same refs & fans as last games. All 4 teams -Girls, parents, coaches, and officials should be proud of last nights activities at Adelphi. I will not be there as my daughter was not on the winning side, but no sour grapes it was a great season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly changes need to be made on the varsity level.college rules need to be in play and we could all agree it not easy being a ref but they need in influx of youth and IMO women have have played the game.An old man giving out yellow cards who never played lacrosse and can’t run down the field is not acceptable for the girls and landscape of li lax

2 types of official of the girls on LI. 1; can't make it up and down the field without medical attention 2; never played the women's game and blows the whistle every second because they heard sticks hit

Might be the most accurate comment ever written on this forum. I’m for paying any ref $200 a contest and giving them the right to toss any player coach or fan challenging their call with zero tolerance or if they want to issue a warning they do so by issuing 2 yellows for misconduct. That’s Coach, player or fan misconduct. That means you play 2 girls down for 2 min and if you get 2 more your playing short handed for the rest of the game bc you ran your mouth.

Let Sec xI tell them there are no warnings and any antics after that is 5 point reduction in power points. Parents and coaches chirping the whole game would stop immediately.

Also add a shot clock. Use college rules for it

Refs need to be issued yellow and red cards for ruining games and cheating kids out of a fair shake.Seen to many bias and let’s just say favorable calls at just the right times.It seems like the same cast of characters shouldn’t ref certain teams.Nassau and Suffolk refs should crossover and not be assigned because there geographically closer to a field.Playoff and championship games the refs should be determined by a jury so to speak and not some section xi puppet.It’s not to much to ask considering how much effort these athletes put into their craft and teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly changes need to be made on the varsity level.college rules need to be in play and we could all agree it not easy being a ref but they need in influx of youth and IMO women have have played the game.An old man giving out yellow cards who never played lacrosse and can’t run down the field is not acceptable for the girls and landscape of li lax

2 types of official of the girls on LI. 1; can't make it up and down the field without medical attention 2; never played the women's game and blows the whistle every second because they heard sticks hit

Might be the most accurate comment ever written on this forum. I’m for paying any ref $200 a contest and giving them the right to toss any player coach or fan challenging their call with zero tolerance or if they want to issue a warning they do so by issuing 2 yellows for misconduct. That’s Coach, player or fan misconduct. That means you play 2 girls down for 2 min and if you get 2 more your playing short handed for the rest of the game bc you ran your mouth.

Let Sec xI tell them there are no warnings and any antics after that is 5 point reduction in power points. Parents and coaches chirping the whole game would stop immediately.

Also add a shot clock. Use college rules for it

Stifle people/players/coaches and toss them from the game if they disagree with a call. My gosh are you serious. I guess the refs are now infallible heroic figures. They get paid and should know the rules and not be there to collect a paycheck.

Exactly the refs act like they are doing everyone a favor being there. They get paid good money. If you can't get up and down the field you shouldn't be doing the job.

LOL….come down to Md…they are horrendous!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL….come down to Md…they are horrendous!

We know. When we travel there the refs are horrible but at least they make the calls in favor of the MD teams. So you could say they are 2x worse for the travel teams traveling to MD. LOL

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Easy, they were with one of their top girls, UNC commit. Would have been a different game. Stop your nonsense and be happy that you got lucky there!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Easy, they were with one of their top girls, UNC commit. Would have been a different game. Stop your nonsense and be happy that you got lucky there!

Not from manhassett just a fan. Over the years wantagh had teams that should have won including this year. Parents run those coaches. Non of the past coaches have been strong enough or non tenured so makes you vulnerable.

So...

Northport vs Massapequa
Westhampton vs GC
BBP vs Manhasset
Center Moriches vs CSH

Who ya got? I'm thinking Northport, Westhampton, BBP, and CSH. But maybe a Suffolk sweep

Northport, GC, BBP, CSH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know the dad being referred to, he’s a good person, guilty caring, passionate, a fighter.

“Never Judge a person until you walk a mile in their shoes…

This way, your a mile away, and you have their shoes”.

Seriously.. stop being a cyber bully, you coward, should have said something in person.

If you know him than maybe you, the AD or Superintendent should remind him how to conduct himself with class and dignity. Nobody is judging him, they're judging his behavior. No excuse for behaving in that manner.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport, GC, BBP, CSH

Northport and CSH decisive wins. GC and BBP close wins.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Easy, they were with one of their top girls, UNC commit. Would have been a different game. Stop your nonsense and be happy that you got lucky there!

I think their coach missed the game also.

So Suffolk takes 2/3 good games. BBP outcoached. Pequa had a shot but couldn’t finish.

what are the final scores today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport, GC, BBP, CSH

Northport and CSH decisive wins. GC and BBP close wins.

Guess you got the last part pretty wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Suffolk takes 2/3 good games. BBP outcoached. Pequa had a shot but couldn’t finish.

dollar short

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Suffolk takes 2/3 good games. BBP outcoached. Pequa had a shot but couldn’t finish.

I wouldn't stay BBP got out coached. They changed draw girls until they got the right fit. They had a plan in place for if/when Manhasset went into their inevitable stall and it looked well-practiced. Their offense and defense looked sharp. I think what cost them the game was their goalie's mistakes. She tried to do too much, and it cost them dearly. That was the one deficiency I saw and Manhasset capitalized on it. When you play a great team, they're going to find your weak spots.

Besides that, it looked like a championship game between two championship teams. Great game to watch, except for the delayed start. We watched it on NFHS so it wasn't too bad. I especially enjoyed watching BBP try to break the stall at the end, that was pretty exciting! Manhasset showed tremendous discipline there. I was impressed by both. It was a championship game through and through.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Suffolk takes 2/3 good games. BBP outcoached. Pequa had a shot but couldn’t finish.

Outcoached or was it neutral refs? Seems the only 2 games they lost this season were the ones without their homer refs.

Unimpressed by North port. Faceguarded Pequa’s best player took her out of the offense, she still owned the draw. NPt goalie came up big. CR Out coached Pequa and the officials took back a goal.
All that said they will win states.

Never saw someone pull their goalie so early in a game. Tough call as their goalie was great roaming the crease

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unimpressed by North port. Faceguarded Pequa’s best player took her out of the offense, she still owned the draw. NPt goalie came up big. CR Out coached Pequa and the officials took back a goal.
All that said they will win states.

two great teams pequa girls still younger! they will get theirs....all great players on the field on both teams. it was a great game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unimpressed by North port. Faceguarded Pequa’s best player took her out of the offense, she still owned the draw. NPt goalie came up big. CR Out coached Pequa and the officials took back a goal.
All that said they will win states.

Lol, don’t think you were watching the same game. Pequa was totally out coached, if they were smart they would know NP face guard strategy. Great players and coaches know and plan for ways to get out of that. Surprised the score was even that close.NP a much better team that had an off day and still won because they decided to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Suffolk takes 2/3 good games. BBP outcoached. Pequa had a shot but couldn’t finish.

I wouldn't stay BBP got out coached. They changed draw girls until they got the right fit. They had a plan in place for if/when Manhasset went into their inevitable stall and it looked well-practiced. Their offense and defense looked sharp. I think what cost them the game was their goalie's mistakes. She tried to do too much, and it cost them dearly. That was the one deficiency I saw and Manhasset capitalized on it. When you play a great team, they're going to find your weak spots.

Besides that, it looked like a championship game between two championship teams. Great game to watch, except for the delayed start. We watched it on NFHS so it wasn't too bad. I especially enjoyed watching BBP try to break the stall at the end, that was pretty exciting! Manhasset showed tremendous discipline there. I was impressed by both. It was a championship game through and through.

Was a very boring game to watch between two stalling teams that both had average talent that could catch and throw. That’s the type of play that does not translate well to the college style of play. Not impressed at all by either team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unimpressed by North port. Faceguarded Pequa’s best player took her out of the offense, she still owned the draw. NPt goalie came up big. CR Out coached Pequa and the officials took back a goal.
All that said they will win states.

two great teams pequa girls still younger! they will get theirs....all great players on the field on both teams. it was a great game

It was a great game!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Easy, they were with one of their top girls, UNC commit. Would have been a different game. Stop your nonsense and be happy that you got lucky there!

Not from manhassett just a fan. Over the years wantagh had teams that should have won including this year. Parents run those coaches. Non of the past coaches have been strong enough or non tenured so makes you vulnerable.

Wantagh last won in 2017 (C's) and before that 2015 (B's). They made semi's in 2016 and finals in 2018, 2019, & 2021. No 2020 due to Covid. In 2018 & 2019 they lost in finals to Cold Spring Harbor who went on to win states both years. Not too shabby. They always have a lot of talent but they have also had at least 5 coaching changes in the 7 years. Lack of consistency is an issue from a coaching perspective. Parents are parents and they ar no worse than other teams.

I personally don’t like the stall game either, but until a shot clock is put in high school lacrosse, why not take advantage of the rules? Scoring too soon leads to a chance for the other team to come back (see the Manhasset boys LI Championship game last year against Mt Sinai).

Lax on the Island remains strong. Great to see the HS teams and their fans yesterday. Some would also say it’s more difficult to get off the Island than to win the states. Congrats to all the teams! Well done!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Easy, they were with one of their top girls, UNC commit. Would have been a different game. Stop your nonsense and be happy that you got lucky there!

Not from manhassett just a fan. Over the years wantagh had teams that should have won including this year. Parents run those coaches. Non of the past coaches have been strong enough or non tenured so makes you vulnerable.

Wantagh last won in 2017 (C's) and before that 2015 (B's). They made semi's in 2016 and finals in 2018, 2019, & 2021. No 2020 due to Covid. In 2018 & 2019 they lost in finals to Cold Spring Harbor who went on to win states both years. Not too shabby. They always have a lot of talent but they have also had at least 5 coaching changes in the 7 years. Lack of consistency is an issue from a coaching perspective. Parents are parents and they ar no worse than other teams.

5 coaches in the last 7 years, why is that???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax on the Island remains strong. Great to see the HS teams and their fans yesterday. Some would also say it’s more difficult to get off the Island than to win the states. Congrats to all the teams! Well done!

Unfortunately, when they leave LI to play MD teams and CT teams, it’s not always as good as we all think. A bit of a bubble. Look how HS teams did against out of state comp this year! Hmmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Suffolk takes 2/3 good games. BBP outcoached. Pequa had a shot but couldn’t finish.

I wouldn't stay BBP got out coached. They changed draw girls until they got the right fit. They had a plan in place for if/when Manhasset went into their inevitable stall and it looked well-practiced. Their offense and defense looked sharp. I think what cost them the game was their goalie's mistakes. She tried to do too much, and it cost them dearly. That was the one deficiency I saw and Manhasset capitalized on it. When you play a great team, they're going to find your weak spots.

Besides that, it looked like a championship game between two championship teams. Great game to watch, except for the delayed start. We watched it on NFHS so it wasn't too bad. I especially enjoyed watching BBP try to break the stall at the end, that was pretty exciting! Manhasset showed tremendous discipline there. I was impressed by both. It was a championship game through and through.

Was a very boring game to watch between two stalling teams that both had average talent that could catch and throw. That’s the type of play that does not translate well to the college style of play. Not impressed at all by either team

Thanks for that enthralling analysis... hope your daughter enjoyed the sidelines watching these girls play for a Championship... PS - you also get to watch most of those girls play D1 lacrosse (impressive list of commits from the Juniors and Seniors of both teams), so keep watching with your daughter from stands

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Easy, they were with one of their top girls, UNC commit. Would have been a different game. Stop your nonsense and be happy that you got lucky there!

Not from manhassett just a fan. Over the years wantagh had teams that should have won including this year. Parents run those coaches. Non of the past coaches have been strong enough or non tenured so makes you vulnerable.

Wantagh last won in 2017 (C's) and before that 2015 (B's). They made semi's in 2016 and finals in 2018, 2019, & 2021. No 2020 due to Covid. In 2018 & 2019 they lost in finals to Cold Spring Harbor who went on to win states both years. Not too shabby. They always have a lot of talent but they have also had at least 5 coaching changes in the 7 years. Lack of consistency is an issue from a coaching perspective. Parents are parents and they ar no worse than other teams.

5 coaches in the last 7 years, why is that???

seems like the talent is there, why the constant turnover in coaches???

Dream on!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whens the last time wantagh won a county title?
talk about getting out-coached!

Easy, they were with one of their top girls, UNC commit. Would have been a different game. Stop your nonsense and be happy that you got lucky there!

Not from manhassett just a fan. Over the years wantagh had teams that should have won including this year. Parents run those coaches. Non of the past coaches have been strong enough or non tenured so makes you vulnerable.

Wantagh last won in 2017 (C's) and before that 2015 (B's). They made semi's in 2016 and finals in 2018, 2019, & 2021. No 2020 due to Covid. In 2018 & 2019 they lost in finals to Cold Spring Harbor who went on to win states both years. Not too shabby. They always have a lot of talent but they have also had at least 5 coaching changes in the 7 years. Lack of consistency is an issue from a coaching perspective. Parents are parents and they ar no worse than other teams.

5 coaches in the last 7 years, why is that???

seems like the talent is there, why the constant turnover in coaches???

Because of politics and PARENTS
yes wantagh Parents historically off the chart. Could b the worse. Yes all teams have parent issues wantagh happens to be at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unimpressed by North port. Faceguarded Pequa’s best player took her out of the offense, she still owned the draw. NPt goalie came up big. CR Out coached Pequa and the officials took back a goal.
All that said they will win states.

Lol, don’t think you were watching the same game. Pequa was totally out coached, if they were smart they would know NP face guard strategy. Great players and coaches know and plan for ways to get out of that. Surprised the score was even that close.NP a much better team that had an off day and still won because they decided to.

Pequa coach does not seem to understand how to utilize some of the talent she has. They have a very deep roster of strong 2023s. Northport seems to be having a lot of "off games" according to this website. Had pequa been smarter in their game plan, they'd have won. They missed six shots in the last few minutes, coach telling them not to shoot 8 meters in overtime? Come on...

Thank you Nassau County Girls Lacrosse Coaches and sponsors for hosting an amazing awards dinner last evening. These student athletes and coaches are to be applauded for all their hard work.

A kid is the so-called best player on a team should NEVER allow herself to be face guarded. Work with your teammates to get you the ball. Get the ball in transitions, and off the end line after shots..
Now if a coach allows that player to be shut and is willing to play 6v6, then that’s another story.

NP Is top in A this year….can’t deny the record, but there are 7-10 B and C teams that would beat them. An unbiased eye would not argue that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you Nassau County Girls Lacrosse Coaches and sponsors for hosting an amazing awards dinner last evening. These student athletes and coaches are to be applauded for all their hard work.

Yes and Suffolk Coaches should be ashamed of themselves! They allowed our girls to miss their 3rd straight dinner.
No excuses but selfishness and not getting opportunity of not having to sit w parents. So take it out on kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid is the so-called best player on a team should NEVER allow herself to be face guarded. Work with your teammates to get you the ball. Get the ball in transitions, and off the end line after shots..
Now if a coach allows that player to be shut and is willing to play 6v6, then that’s another story.

NP Is top in A this year….can’t deny the record, but there are 7-10 B and C teams that would beat them. An unbiased eye would not argue that

Coach allows it. End of story

Bad job by Section XI not hosting an awards dinner for these ladies for the 3rd straight year. So sad you could not figure this out as our kids see all the posts from Nassau County.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid is the so-called best player on a team should NEVER allow herself to be face guarded. Work with your teammates to get you the ball. Get the ball in transitions, and off the end line after shots..
Now if a coach allows that player to be shut and is willing to play 6v6, then that’s another story.

NP Is top in A this year….can’t deny the record, but there are 7-10 B and C teams that would beat them. An unbiased eye would not argue that

Coach allows it. End of story

Best player or not. If ur face guarded and your team does not work to get u off the FC other coach wins. Ur team or maybe ur coach should tell kids to at least try more than a few times to get that kid the ball. I put it on the coach. kids r kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bad job by Section XI not hosting an awards dinner for these ladies for the 3rd straight year. So sad you could not figure this out as our kids see all the posts from Nassau County.

Its not section Xi. Let be clear here. Section XI does not book halls for dinners. Associations do all associations are run by the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bad job by Section XI not hosting an awards dinner for these ladies for the 3rd straight year. So sad you could not figure this out as our kids see all the posts from Nassau County.

Agreed that it's pretty bad that they couldn't make it happen for the Suffolk kids but the fact that the kids saw all the posts from Nassau County is besides the point. They should have done it not because of the social media.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid is the so-called best player on a team should NEVER allow herself to be face guarded. Work with your teammates to get you the ball. Get the ball in transitions, and off the end line after shots..
Now if a coach allows that player to be shut and is willing to play 6v6, then that’s another story.

NP Is top in A this year….can’t deny the record, but there are 7-10 B and C teams that would beat them. An unbiased eye would not argue that

Coach allows it. End of story

Best player or not. If ur face guarded and your team does not work to get u off the FC other coach wins. Ur team or maybe ur coach should tell kids to at least try more than a few times to get that kid the ball. I put it on the coach. kids r kids

My daughter got face guarded. Coach had her stand on the field up by the restraining line or next to him half the game. I don't get that. Have your girls set screens. There's a reason why they are face guarding a player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid is the so-called best player on a team should NEVER allow herself to be face guarded. Work with your teammates to get you the ball. Get the ball in transitions, and off the end line after shots..
Now if a coach allows that player to be shut and is willing to play 6v6, then that’s another story.

NP Is top in A this year….can’t deny the record, but there are 7-10 B and C teams that would beat them. An unbiased eye would not argue that

Coach allows it. End of story

Best player or not. If ur face guarded and your team does not work to get u off the FC other coach wins. Ur team or maybe ur coach should tell kids to at least try more than a few times to get that kid the ball. I put it on the coach. kids r kids

My daughter got face guarded. Coach had her stand on the field up by the restraining line or next to him half the game. I don't get that. Have your girls set screens. There's a reason why they are face guarding a player.

Lacrosse is best played, and best watched as a free ball movement sport. Single player isolation offense is just hard to watch and if you have to work that hard to get your isolation player the ball, it is probably not worth it, unless the entire rest of the team is incapable of scoring without the iso player. Most coaches, myself included, would rather bring the kid to side or restraining line and open up the 12 meter space. A 6 v 6 offense is so much easier to score with than a 7 v 7, so unless the rest of the team is incapable of scoring, you take advantage of the 6 v 6 offense that you get with a face guard.

So dis suffolk girls get awards distributed by school/coaches or noting at all?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid is the so-called best player on a team should NEVER allow herself to be face guarded. Work with your teammates to get you the ball. Get the ball in transitions, and off the end line after shots..
Now if a coach allows that player to be shut and is willing to play 6v6, then that’s another story.

NP Is top in A this year….can’t deny the record, but there are 7-10 B and C teams that would beat them. An unbiased eye would not argue that

Coach allows it. End of story

Best player or not. If ur face guarded and your team does not work to get u off the FC other coach wins. Ur team or maybe ur coach should tell kids to at least try more than a few times to get that kid the ball. I put it on the coach. kids r kids

My daughter got face guarded. Coach had her stand on the field up by the restraining line or next to him half the game. I don't get that. Have your girls set screens. There's a reason why they are face guarding a player.

Lacrosse is best played, and best watched as a free ball movement sport. Single player isolation offense is just hard to watch and if you have to work that hard to get your isolation player the ball, it is probably not worth it, unless the entire rest of the team is incapable of scoring without the iso player. Most coaches, myself included, would rather bring the kid to side or restraining line and open up the 12 meter space. A 6 v 6 offense is so much easier to score with than a 7 v 7, so unless the rest of the team is incapable of scoring, you take advantage of the 6 v 6 offense that you get with a face guard.

Fair points. She was their main scorer. She scored 5, the rest of the team scored 2 that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So dis suffolk girls get awards distributed by school/coaches or noting at all?

Awards should have been distributed already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid is the so-called best player on a team should NEVER allow herself to be face guarded. Work with your teammates to get you the ball. Get the ball in transitions, and off the end line after shots..
Now if a coach allows that player to be shut and is willing to play 6v6, then that’s another story.

NP Is top in A this year….can’t deny the record, but there are 7-10 B and C teams that would beat them. An unbiased eye would not argue that

Coach allows it. End of story

Best player or not. If ur face guarded and your team does not work to get u off the FC other coach wins. Ur team or maybe ur coach should tell kids to at least try more than a few times to get that kid the ball. I put it on the coach. kids r kids

My daughter got face guarded. Coach had her stand on the field up by the restraining line or next to him half the game. I don't get that. Have your girls set screens. There's a reason why they are face guarding a player.

Lacrosse is best played, and best watched as a free ball movement sport. Single player isolation offense is just hard to watch and if you have to work that hard to get your isolation player the ball, it is probably not worth it, unless the entire rest of the team is incapable of scoring without the iso player. Most coaches, myself included, would rather bring the kid to side or restraining line and open up the 12 meter space. A 6 v 6 offense is so much easier to score with than a 7 v 7, so unless the rest of the team is incapable of scoring, you take advantage of the 6 v 6 offense that you get with a face guard.

Well said. 6 v 6 makes it easier on the offense. That said, maybe some coaches use the face guard because they do not believe their players can stop the offensive player if they get the ball.

Anyone have the the next round match-ups? who's playing who

9:00 a.m. Class A Semifinals
Baldwinsville (III) vs. Rush-Henrietta (V)
Suffern (I) vs. Northport (XI)

11:00 a.m. Class B Semifinals
Fayetteville-Manlius (III) vs. Victor (V)
Queensbury (2) vs. Westhampton Beach (XI)

1:00 p.m. Class C Semifinals
Fulton (III) vs. Honeoye Falls-Lima (V)
Burnt Hills-Ballston Lake (2) vs. Manhasset (VIII)

3:00 p.m. Class D Semifinals
Skaneateles (III) vs. Palmyra-Macedon (V)
Bronxville (I) vs. Cold Spring Harbor (VIII)

Are the High School Awards for Nassau/Suffolk posted anywhere?

A- Suffern will be a tough foe vs Npt..
B -nobody beats Victor
C- manhassett .. just a guess I dont know the other teams
D- CSH vs Skaneateles as a toss up..another guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A- Suffern will be a tough foe vs Npt..
B -nobody beats Victor
C- manhassett .. just a guess I dont know the other teams
D- CSH vs Skaneateles as a toss up..another guess

Bronxville may beat CSH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A- Suffern will be a tough foe vs Npt..
B -nobody beats Victor
C- manhassett .. just a guess I dont know the other teams
D- CSH vs Skaneateles as a toss up..another guess

Bronxville may beat CSH

Garden City beat Suffren at Gains for Brains. Will be close game as the NP is good but not great. (A’s on LI are very weak top to bottom)
I think Northport wins 10-8

Agree Westhampton can get to the state finals but they get smoked by Victor who is the Best team in the state!!

C Manhasset ROLLS. Top 10 C teams in the state are on the island. win the island and you win the State.

D Bronxville vs CSH will be a battle. Great coaching staff for CSH can be the difference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the High School Awards for Nassau/Suffolk posted anywhere?

Not sure if awards posted. All conf, HM AC and all county along with unsung hero was in the pamphlet at the dinner.

Honorable Mention All American and All Americans were announced at the dinner. No real surprises that i know.

HM AA. plainview and division girls, middie on manhasset and NS. forget other one.

9 HS All Americans were from
1 from GC
1 from LB
1 from NS
1 from CSH
2 from Manhasset
3 from Wantagh

Suffern will have the best player on the field.. but she'll be no doubt face guarded by Npt... will the Suffern coach/player be ready for that and respond? can any one else on Suffern score?
Draw and Goalie edge to Suffern.. will be a fun game, too bad no streaming

Suffren lost to Bronxville 16-7 and only lost 12-11 to New Canaan who recently beat Darien.
Suffren is not very good. NP should run away with this one.

Top 5 teams in NYS
Victor 1
Bronxville 2
Manhasset 3
4 Bayport
5 Wantagh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the High School Awards for Nassau/Suffolk posted anywhere?

Not sure if awards posted. All conf, HM AC and all county along with unsung hero was in the pamphlet at the dinner.

Honorable Mention All American and All Americans were announced at the dinner. No real surprises that i know.

HM AA. plainview and division girls, middie on manhasset and NS. forget other one.

9 HS All Americans were from
1 from GC
1 from LB
1 from NS
1 from CSH
2 from Manhasset
3 from Wantagh

No suprises for All County awards either. Blue blood schools get more votes and really good players get overlooked. If your coach isn't part of the network you're screwed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffren lost to Bronxville 16-7 and only lost 12-11 to New Canaan who recently beat Darien.
Suffren is not very good. NP should run away with this one.

New Canaan beat Npt pretty easily (12-8) so there's that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffren lost to Bronxville 16-7 and only lost 12-11 to New Canaan who recently beat Darien.
Suffren is not very good. NP should run away with this one.

New Canaan beat Npt pretty easily (12-8) so there's that

Ouch! That must have stung.

(see what I did there???)

Plainedge, not plainview, and goalie from Southside were HM AA

Not true, the awards are given depending on how many games your team wins, if you win 10 games , you will usually get three to four AC, and four to five AD.

Northport goes down, and it wasn’t close. Does that mean CR comes back again next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport goes down, and it wasn’t close. Does that mean CR comes back again next year?

They do lose a ton of senior starters.. I don’t think the underclass girls can match what was lost.. so maybe now is the time.. but I would imagine it’s all house money for her now, the legacy is locked in.. as long as it’s fun why not coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport goes down, and it wasn’t close. Does that mean CR comes back again next year?

They do lose a ton of senior starters.. I don’t think the underclass girls can match what was lost.. so maybe now is the time.. but I would imagine it’s all house money for her now, the legacy is locked in.. as long as it’s fun why not coach

rumor has it that she may be taking over a local College team

Did Suffolk announce the AA selections?

Suffolk coaches and association are a complete joke and embarrassment to our county.totally disrespected the girls in whom their supposed to represent without having a dinner for them.
The politics of the li lacrosse world are literally ruining the game with the power some people have because they run a high priced club.
Refs need to be addressed.Old men and biased refs have got to go it changed a lot of big games this year from what I’ve seen and heard.
College rules need to be in play for Hs level.the girls need it and deserve a better game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk coaches and association are a complete joke and embarrassment to our county.totally disrespected the girls in whom their supposed to represent without having a dinner for them.
The politics of the li lacrosse world are literally ruining the game with the power some people have because they run a high priced club.
Refs need to be addressed.Old men and biased refs have got to go it changed a lot of big games this year from what I’ve seen and heard.
College rules need to be in play for Hs level.the girls need it and deserve a better game.

The Suffolk girls deserved better! Embarrassment.

Congratulations to All! ..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj5pcf3zr74AhVlhIkEHWPSDW0QFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.insidelacrosse.com%2Farticle%2Fannouncing-the-fourth-final-wave-of-girls-ua-all-america-senior-game-selections%2F59801&usg=AOvVaw2C0SorkHWPBBvl0OMyDCrV

Wave IV: Girls’ Under Armour All-Americans

Attack
Jaclyn Marszal, Glenelg Country School (Md.), Notre Dame
Dillyn Patten, New Canaan (Conn.), Cornell
Peep Williams, Seton Catholic (N.Y.), Stanford

Midfield
Haven Dora, Trinity Hall (N.J.), Princeton
Erika [ChillLaxin], Lincoln-Way East (Ill.), Penn State
Peyton Shreves, Holy Child (Md.), Michigan
Kendall Steer, St. Paul’s School for Girls (Md.), Georgetown
Ceci Stein, Darien (Conn.), Michigan

Defense
Jordan DeBlasio, Mt. Sinai (N.Y.), Syracuse
Paris Masaracchia, Bishop Shanahan (Pa.), Clemson
Olivia Rockstroh, Notre Dame Prep (Md.), Maryland
Grace Turner, Penn Charter (Pa.), Stanford

Goal
Francesca Argentieri, Westhill (N.Y.), Northwestern

why was the Riverhead coach let go?

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

I'm curious - Garden City always ranks pretty high as a team but in terms of recruiting, they don't seem to have many players going to top notch lacrosse schools or highly academic schools to play lacrosse (at least in the recent years when I have been looking). Why do you think that's the case?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

Played no competition? Put up no numbers? Really? Didn’t they beat Manhasset! CSH? Beat Northport in a scrimmage? You can put them up against any LI top team. Those girls are legit. Stop scratching your head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

Played no competition? Put up no numbers? Really? Didn’t they beat Manhasset! CSH? Beat Northport in a scrimmage? You can put them up against any LI top team. Those girls are legit. Stop scratching your head.

Struggled against Darien and McDonough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

Played no competition? Put up no numbers? Really? Didn’t they beat Manhasset! CSH? Beat Northport in a scrimmage? You can put them up against any LI top team. Those girls are legit. Stop scratching your head.

The fact that your counting a scrimmage is hilarious. And beating NP, is not that impressive. There were no teams that were lights out this year. Any could be beaten. St. A was not better than at least 6 other LI teams this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

Played no competition? Put up no numbers? Really? Didn’t they beat Manhasset! CSH? Beat Northport in a scrimmage? You can put them up against any LI top team. Those girls are legit. Stop scratching your head.

Struggled against Darien and McDonough.

The list is talking about LI girls. I’m questioning why you would be scratching your head with picks from St. As? They clearly have some great LI players if they are beating some of the top LI teams that are LI Championship teams. The poster stated they played no competition?

Also, when talking about numbers, that’s a joke. So easy to put up big numbers in many of the conferences. Many teams had only two or three really competitive opponents. Racked up numbers on easy games. Apples and Oranges! Stats are a joke if lumping everything together. Put some of the SA girls on a team like a Roslyn who plays no comp. Many SA girls would prob. have triple digits. On top of that, SA is not encouraged or “allowed” to run up a score! They keep it Classy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

Played no competition? Put up no numbers? Really? Didn’t they beat Manhasset! CSH? Beat Northport in a scrimmage? You can put them up against any LI top team. Those girls are legit. Stop scratching your head.

Struggled against Darien and McDonough.

The list is talking about LI girls. I’m questioning why you would be scratching your head with picks from St. As? They clearly have some great LI players if they are beating some of the top LI teams that are LI Championship teams. The poster stated they played no competition?

Also, when talking about numbers, that’s a joke. So easy to put up big numbers in many of the conferences. Many teams had only two or three really competitive opponents. Racked up numbers on easy games. Apples and Oranges! Stats are a joke if lumping everything together. Put some of the SA girls on a team like a Roslyn who plays no comp. Many SA girls would prob. have triple digits. On top of that, SA is not encouraged or “allowed” to run up a score! They keep it Classy.

Totally agree about stats being meaningless. earlier this year there was a story in Newsday of a senior who scored her 200th varsity goal.. what a great accomplishment I thought.. then I read a little further and in the Big 200th goal Game this player scored 12 goals in a game where her team won 17-1... is that newsworthy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

I'm curious - Garden City always ranks pretty high as a team but in terms of recruiting, they don't seem to have many players going to top notch lacrosse schools or highly academic schools to play lacrosse (at least in the recent years when I have been looking). Why do you think that's the case?

Depth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good list for the most part, but some of those St. A picks have me scratching my head. Put up no numbers and played no competition
https://twitter.com/newsdayhssports/status/1539275678478127106?s=12

Played no competition? Put up no numbers? Really? Didn’t they beat Manhasset! CSH? Beat Northport in a scrimmage? You can put them up against any LI top team. Those girls are legit. Stop scratching your head.

The fact that your counting a scrimmage is hilarious. And beating NP, is not that impressive. There were no teams that were lights out this year. Any could be beaten. St. A was not better than at least 6 other LI teams this year.

Come on. I dislike St a as much as anyone but there is no way you can name 6 teams better than them. They beat the top Nassau teams. It's unfortunate the top Suffolk teams refuse to play them.

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

That’s not the point. OP was questioning girls on SA being on Newsday list. Like they are not good enough to be there because of stat numbers. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

What Talent are they "Pulling".. there are no athletic scholarships at Saint Anthony's ... especially for girls lacrosse.
People choose to send their kids there for any number of reasons. The local HS doesn't meet their academic desires, its unsafe, too woke, the athletic programs (girls lax team) are terrible. The list goes on and on.

they aren't "included in comparison to public schools" they're kept separate, they play in their own league.. they are lucky to have the opportunity to play against other talented LI teams, in non-conference game, sometimes they win sometimes they lose. they don't get to play in Girls Lacrosse county championships', the LIC or any state tournament's.

All that said the St A girls on the Newsday list would've started on every HS girls team on LI, and probably on most since they were in 8th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

The catholic league aa champion should (imo) get the opportunity to play in the li championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

The catholic league aa champion should (imo) get the opportunity to play in the li championship

Lol, what competitive teams are in the catholic league besides St. A? It’s like the weak Nassau and Suffolk D division. The answer is no, they shouldn’t.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

The catholic league aa champion should (imo) get the opportunity to play in the li championship

Lol, what competitive teams are in the catholic league besides St. A? It’s like the weak Nassau and Suffolk D division. The answer is no, they shouldn’t.

it’s usually SA (and sha) SA can hold their own against any team out there. Are the invincible? No Did they lose to strong nationally ranked opponents? Yes but they played them! Did your team go looking for the best competition? Or did they just play conference and some bs scrimmages? When SA beats top teams consistently they deserve a chance at the lic. Will it happen nope! Would it make for incredible games ? Sure would!

This year st Anthony’s was extremely deep team. They have division 1 recruits at every position who are on their third rotations. Those sane players would be highly productive on their town teams. This year they beat perennial powerhouses like manhasset wantagh and CSH bu convincing margins. They destroyed north port in a scrimmage. They have blown out mount sinai every year on every level. A Long Island championship would be great gir the sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This year st Anthony’s was extremely deep team. They have division 1 recruits at every position who are on their third rotations. Those sane players would be highly productive on their town teams. This year they beat perennial powerhouses like manhasset wantagh and CSH bu convincing margins. They destroyed north port in a scrimmage. They have blown out mount sinai every year on every level. A Long Island championship would be great gir the sport.

Its public HS LIC, meaning the team is built with kids from same town. Top private schools, that draw from all over LI, should beat town teams. Apple's and Oranges.....sorry but that's what you give up when you send your kid to a private. The LIC is a state regional game, winner earns state final 4 spot, sponsored by the New York State Public High School Athletic Association.

Suffolk C division was probably the toughest on LI and state.Not sure of the Nassau division but they were real deep as well.you simply cannot compare private and catholic to public school on the whole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk coaches and association are a complete joke and embarrassment to our county.totally disrespected the girls in whom their supposed to represent without having a dinner for them.
The politics of the li lacrosse world are literally ruining the game with the power some people have because they run a high priced club.
Refs need to be addressed.Old men and biased refs have got to go it changed a lot of big games this year from what I’ve seen and heard.
College rules need to be in play for Hs level.the girls need it and deserve a better game.

The Suffolk girls deserved better! Embarrassment.

Suffolk girls still don’t know who got AA awards

“ Suffolk girls still don’t know who got AA awards”

Head coach from BBP & Ward Melville are the section XI area chairs… send them an email

https://www.usalacrosse.com/high-school-awards

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ Suffolk girls still don’t know who got AA awards”

Head coach from BBP & Ward Melville are the section XI area chairs… send them an email

https://www.usalacrosse.com/high-school-awards

Are those the same coaches responsible for not scheduling a dinner for the girls?

Honestly, everyone involved in Suffolk County girls lacrosse should be embarrassed. What an awful job was done. Nobody knows anything that is going on. Get your acts together. Just terrible!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

The catholic league aa champion should (imo) get the opportunity to play in the li championship

Lol, what competitive teams are in the catholic league besides St. A? It’s like the weak Nassau and Suffolk D division. The answer is no, they shouldn’t.

LOL, I think they actually played more competitive schedule then your team? Let’s see… Northport, Manhasset, McDonough, Darien , BBP, , NP this year. Hmmm and did very well. IMO , would win LIC!! Beat NP and Manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Private/Catholic schools should never be included in a comparison with a school district. They should be separate.
They are able to pull talent from all over the island.

The catholic league aa champion should (imo) get the opportunity to play in the li championship

Lol, what competitive teams are in the catholic league besides St. A? It’s like the weak Nassau and Suffolk D division. The answer is no, they shouldn’t.

LOL, I think they actually played more competitive schedule then your team? Let’s see… Northport, Manhasset, McDonough, Darien , BBP, , NP this year. Hmmm and did very well. IMO , would win LIC!! Beat NP and Manhasset

You should win a LIC it’s like a travel team playing a town team not a great accomplishment.

AA are awarded to the players with the most influential coaches who push it along.Some picks deserve it but others just are fortunate to have coaches who have some pull.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA are awarded to the players with the most influential coaches who push it along.Some picks deserve it but others just are fortunate to have coaches who have some pull.

Not sure if things have changed but in the past, the selection process for US Lacrosse All-American was extremely political (at least on Long Island). A relatively small committee picked the players (9 from Nassau and 8 from Suffolk), if your HS or Club coach was not on the committee it was tough to make it. That is not to say the players that were selected over the years were not deserving but there were probably 8 - 10 players each year who were also deserving who didn't have an advocate. In any given graduation year on Long Island there are probably between 20 - 30 legitimate top tier players so with only 17 spots available some really good players will be left out.

One of the Wantagh AA was injured prior to the championship game their coach had a baby and didn’t coach against Manhassett. Manhassett had 2 AA and one honorable mention AA. Facts matter.

Sounds like a bunch of excuses.So six AA from two teams.Let me guess wantaugh and manhasset coaches sit on the committee that makes selection?There is more to an AA than stats.it should be intangibles that come into play when deciding.3 picks from one team seem to be a bit of a stretch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like a bunch of excuses.So six AA from two teams.Let me guess wantaugh and manhasset coaches sit on the committee that makes selection?There is more to an AA than stats.it should be intangibles that come into play when deciding.3 picks from one team seem to be a bit of a stretch.

State champ Manhassett had 2 AA and one honorable mention. Wantagh won the Nassau power conference. Two top teams on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly, everyone involved in Suffolk County girls lacrosse should be embarrassed. What an awful job was done. Nobody knows anything that is going on. Get your acts together. Just terrible!

The Suffolk girls deserve much better treatment. The coaches have done a really poor job. The girls work very hard on and off the field and deserve their accolades.

It’s a shame that some HS coaches are affiliated with travel circuit and still didn’t stand up for the girls not only this year but the last 3 years. Your good enough for them to take, but forget about you when your gone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a shame that some HS coaches are affiliated with travel circuit and still didn’t stand up for the girls not only this year but the last 3 years. Your good enough for them to take but forget about you when your gone.

The girls deserved a nice year end dinner to celebrate the season instead the coaches decided against it. It’s just not right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a shame that some HS coaches are affiliated with travel circuit and still didn’t stand up for the girls not only this year but the last 3 years. Your good enough for them to take but forget about you when your gone.

The girls deserved a nice year end dinner to celebrate the season instead the coaches decided against it. It’s just not right.

Yes. And we all know the coaches read this thread. Maybe apologize and make real effort to do your job next year, because this is not acceptable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a shame that some HS coaches are affiliated with travel circuit and still didn’t stand up for the girls not only this year but the last 3 years. Your good enough for them to take but forget about you when your gone.

The girls deserved a nice year end dinner to celebrate the season instead the coaches decided against it. It’s just not right.

Yes. And we all know the coaches read this thread. Maybe apologize and make real effort to do your job next year, because this is not acceptable

There was no excuse not to have something for the girls in Suffolk. Every other sport did. It’s laziness.

Massapequa won the Power conference for class A. Their AD dropped the ball there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa won the Power conference for class A. Their AD dropped the ball there.

What Year ????

This year , last year …

Yeah- Massapequa was not the winner for the power conference(regular season) they finished 5th I think, top team was Wantagh, 2nd Manhasset, 3rd Garden City, 4th North Shore, 5th Massapequa, then it was Southside, Cold Spring Harbor.

4 of them went on to win the Nassau Championships for each of there divisions, 2 LI champs, and Manhasset state champs-I would say if you were top of that group you have some talent on your team- Massapequa was good, but most talented players were their goalie, and one of the defenders

In all honestly the high school rules are on a middle school level and the reffing is almost as bad.unless you implement a shot clock the games are just not that exciting.watching a girls lacrosse game with single digit schools is like watching paint dry.If you look at ncaa scores especially in the tourney it’s a high scoring affair not because the defense or goalies are horrible is because of the amount of possessions a team has due to the shot clock.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa won the Power conference for class A. Their AD dropped the ball there.

No.... Massapequa won Conference A in the playoffs based on school enrollment. Did not win the A Power Conference. There are no power conference playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa won the Power conference for class A. Their AD dropped the ball there.

No.... Massapequa won Conference A in the playoffs based on school enrollment. Did not win the A Power Conference. There are no power conference playoffs

Nassau conference A was a cakewalk

Not plainview, girl from Plainedge for HM AA and the last one was goalie from South Side

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly, everyone involved in Suffolk County girls lacrosse should be embarrassed. What an awful job was done. Nobody knows anything that is going on. Get your acts together. Just terrible!

July 1 still no AA awards for Suffolk.
Great job coaches
Most teams ended their season 7 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly, everyone involved in Suffolk County girls lacrosse should be embarrassed. What an awful job was done. Nobody knows anything that is going on. Get your acts together. Just terrible!

July 1 still no AA awards for Suffolk.
Great job coaches
Most teams ended their season 7 weeks ago.

Why did Suffolk boys and Nassau girls and boys all get their awards? Something is very wrong here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly, everyone involved in Suffolk County girls lacrosse should be embarrassed. What an awful job was done. Nobody knows anything that is going on. Get your acts together. Just terrible!

July 1 still no AA awards for Suffolk.
Great job coaches
Most teams ended their season 7 weeks ago.

This goes beyond incompetence. No dinner for the girls, July and no AA announced. The Suffolk girls deserve better. Nassau was announced a month ago.

Has Suffolk given out there all county plaques yet.Nobody from our school got theirs.Not sure if our coach just didn’t pick them up.

Let it go, HS season is over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has Suffolk given out there all county plaques yet.Nobody from our school got theirs.Not sure if our coach just didn’t pick them up.

My daughter did not get hers, but was told she made All County by her coach.

I don’t think we should let it go simply for the future girls coming up.The last three years have been unacceptable and needs to be addressed by changing the leadership.No excuses can be made when all other sections have wrapped up their season and post season honors and had dinners and awards.

Suffolk All Americans have finally been announced. Congratulations to all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t think we should let it go simply for the future girls coming up.The last three years have been unacceptable and needs to be addressed by changing the leadership.No excuses can be made when all other sections have wrapped up their season and post season honors and had dinners and awards.

Agree
Agree
Agree
Whoever is the leader needs to step aside

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk All Americans have finally been announced. Congratulations to all!

Where is this shared?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk All Americans have finally been announced. Congratulations to all!

Where is this shared?

Coaches have it. Would be nice if it could be shared. I heard 3 Northport, and mostly 1 from a bunch of others.

Going to all the grad party I’m talking with a lot of the families that still have kids in The travel or club circuit and it’s pretty sad when you hear that they just want it to be over and it’s out of control with the money.It’s not fun anymore.That’s pretty sad because when we went through it it was fun and the best families meteorites.Lax has taken us to a lot of places we may not have gone too.Does anyone else hear that travel had lost that special something .I miss those days of watching my kid complete and meeting people along the way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to all the grad party I’m talking with a lot of the families that still have kids in The travel or club circuit and it’s pretty sad when you hear that they just want it to be over and it’s out of control with the money.It’s not fun anymore.That’s pretty sad because when we went through it it was fun and the best families meteorites.Lax has taken us to a lot of places we may not have gone too.Does anyone else hear that travel had lost that special something .I miss those days of watching my kid complete and meeting people along the way.

Yes! It’s out of control. Too much pressure, and too much politics have ruined it. We have no choice but to do it if our daughters want to play in college, but nonsense we have had to endure has been ridiculous. Parents are a big part of the problem because they’re jealous and do anything to promote their kid ahead of yours. They are not your true friends. It has not been all bad, but I’m sure glad it’s over!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to all the grad party I’m talking with a lot of the families that still have kids in The travel or club circuit and it’s pretty sad when you hear that they just want it to be over and it’s out of control with the money.It’s not fun anymore.That’s pretty sad because when we went through it it was fun and the best families meteorites.Lax has taken us to a lot of places we may not have gone too.Does anyone else hear that travel had lost that special something .I miss those days of watching my kid complete and meeting people along the way.

My girl is worn out and tired of the club nonsense. Same thing happened on boys side a few years earlier. Totally cutthroat amongst families and directors just looking to maximize profits. Girls and boys in the middle tier are just dollar signs and placeholders to them.

Can one of Suffolk coaches that reads this please post the list of All-Americans? We all waited long enough for this and would like to know who was honored

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk All Americans have finally been announced. Congratulations to all!

Where is this shared?

Coaches have it. Would be nice if it could be shared. I heard 3 Northport, and mostly 1 from a bunch of others.

Congrats to all the All American recipients its a great honor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can one of Suffolk coaches that reads this please post the list of All-Americans? We all waited long enough for this and would like to know who was honored

Not sure that "we all" waited for this... 8 girls from Suffolk are selected Congratulations to the girls.

Last year BOTC posted both Suffolk and Nassau recipients.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can one of Suffolk coaches that reads this please post the list of All-Americans? We all waited long enough for this and would like to know who was honored

little patience

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can one of Suffolk coaches that reads this please post the list of All-Americans? We all waited long enough for this and would like to know who was honored

little patience

LD. WB
KM. NPT
EC. NPT
IG. NPT
OR. WHP
FG. BPT
NY. SAY
AA. SE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can one of Suffolk coaches that reads this please post the list of All-Americans? We all waited long enough for this and would like to know who was honored

little patience

LD. WB
KM. NPT
EC. NPT
IG. NPT
OR. WHP
FG. BPT
NY. SAY
AA. SE

Surprised AS from Riverhead didn’t get it, or NM fin Smithtown. They pick a few Jrs. Over them. AS cleaned up with some other big awards!

3 from northport.that’s comical.theres no way a team has 3 legit AA.just like wantaugh the coach must have some pull with the committee or is the committee.probably the same bums that run the section xi dinner.what a joke Suffolk girls lax has become.as much as I miss it,I don’t miss the losers running it and the shenanigans that go on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 from northport.that’s comical.theres no way a team has 3 legit AA.just like wantaugh the coach must have some pull with the committee or is the committee.probably the same bums that run the section xi dinner.what a joke Suffolk girls lax has become.as much as I miss it,I don’t miss the losers running it and the shenanigans that go on.

Northport should have two, the other is an HM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 from northport.that’s comical.theres no way a team has 3 legit AA.just like wantaugh the coach must have some pull with the committee or is the committee.probably the same bums that run the section xi dinner.what a joke Suffolk girls lax has become.as much as I miss it,I don’t miss the losers running it and the shenanigans that go on.

Coaches vote for their friends and they vote for Carol or they get in trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Can one of Suffolk coaches that reads this please post the list of All-Americans? We all waited long enough for this and would like to know who was honored

little patience

LD. WB
KM. NPT
EC. NPT
IG. NPT
OR. WHP
FG. BPT
NY. SAY
AA. SE[/

Congratulations to all the girls on an outstanding lacrosse season. Earned and well deserved.

Vote for carol sad but true.a true pioneer of inflating the cost of travel lax.very overrated what they turned this money grab into.don’t get caught up in the hype.all the premier clubs have A,B,C and now D teams with inflated numbers on the roster.your kid will play half a game at best when at tournaments.I’ve seen it and am glad we went with a smaller club.still made out better scholarship wise than a lot of kids on so called top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vote for carol sad but true.a true pioneer of inflating the cost of travel lax.very overrated what they turned this money grab into.don’t get caught up in the hype.all the premier clubs have A,B,C and now D teams with inflated numbers on the roster.your kid will play half a game at best when at tournaments.I’ve seen it and am glad we went with a smaller club.still made out better scholarship wise than a lot of kids on so called top teams.

She is the most powerful and influential person in girl's/women's lacrosse at the local travel team level, HS coach level, college influence level and so on. No one is remotely close except maybe the CR in MD. Unfortunately, YJ is still the absolute best way to go for the better players. Having went through it, I am not a fan, but still believe it to be a player's best option. A solid player from the A team will have doors opening all over for her, whereas the same exact caliber player on any other LI club will often get overlooked. My kid made all the teams and lists and did amazing for herself. Very good player and I feel deserving, but probably had a lot of help from being a YJ and pushed by carol. I would say her and most of her teammates greatly benefited from the carol effect. I am not in denial; I clearly see that there are plenty of very good players out there that just do not get the benefit of the doubt that comes with being a part of the YJ A team. I am watching what girl's lacrosse is becoming. All the elite events, a million lists of ranking teams, players, photoshoots, social media hype, FOMO. It is completely out of control. Even Spallina tweeted same exact sentiment, since he has to now go through it with his kids. I wish you all good luck!

Can someone explain how/why LI has their own All-American list? Shouldn't it just be All Long Island or something? What exactly is the point of having LI All-Americans?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vote for carol sad but true.a true pioneer of inflating the cost of travel lax.very overrated what they turned this money grab into.don’t get caught up in the hype.all the premier clubs have A,B,C and now D teams with inflated numbers on the roster.your kid will play half a game at best when at tournaments.I’ve seen it and am glad we went with a smaller club.still made out better scholarship wise than a lot of kids on so called top teams.

She is the most powerful and influential person in girl's/women's lacrosse at the local travel team level, HS coach level, college influence level and so on. No one is remotely close except maybe the CR in MD. Unfortunately, YJ is still the absolute best way to go for the better players. Having went through it, I am not a fan, but still believe it to be a player's best option. A solid player from the A team will have doors opening all over for her, whereas the same exact caliber player on any other LI club will often get overlooked. My kid made all the teams and lists and did amazing for herself. Very good player and I feel deserving, but probably had a lot of help from being a YJ and pushed by carol. I would say her and most of her teammates greatly benefited from the carol effect. I am not in denial; I clearly see that there are plenty of very good players out there that just do not get the benefit of the doubt that comes with being a part of the YJ A team. I am watching what girl's lacrosse is becoming. All the elite events, a million lists of ranking teams, players, photoshoots, social media hype, FOMO. It is completely out of control. Even Spallina tweeted same exact sentiment, since he has to now go through it with his kids. I wish you all good luck!

I disagree. My daughter left YJ due to daddy coaching. Yes she was on the A team, but the politics were unbearable. Went to a different club where she was valued. Turns out, she was way better than all those girls playing over her. How do I know? Her accolade list far surpasses anyone else’s on that team, and she had the pick of schools she wanted to attend. Sometimes the grass is greener! YJ is great for some, especially those who like koolaid and wearing Bee gear. Not for us!

So true

Look at the current rising Sr. Class. The best players ARE NOT YJs! Wonder why that is?

It’s HS All American. Not LI All American

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vote for carol sad but true.a true pioneer of inflating the cost of travel lax.very overrated what they turned this money grab into.don’t get caught up in the hype.all the premier clubs have A,B,C and now D teams with inflated numbers on the roster.your kid will play half a game at best when at tournaments.I’ve seen it and am glad we went with a smaller club.still made out better scholarship wise than a lot of kids on so called top teams.

She is the most powerful and influential person in girl's/women's lacrosse at the local travel team level, HS coach level, college influence level and so on. No one is remotely close except maybe the CR in MD. Unfortunately, YJ is still the absolute best way to go for the better players. Having went through it, I am not a fan, but still believe it to be a player's best option. A solid player from the A team will have doors opening all over for her, whereas the same exact caliber player on any other LI club will often get overlooked. My kid made all the teams and lists and did amazing for herself. Very good player and I feel deserving, but probably had a lot of help from being a YJ and pushed by carol. I would say her and most of her teammates greatly benefited from the carol effect. I am not in denial; I clearly see that there are plenty of very good players out there that just do not get the benefit of the doubt that comes with being a part of the YJ A team. I am watching what girl's lacrosse is becoming. All the elite events, a million lists of ranking teams, players, photoshoots, social media hype, FOMO. It is completely out of control. Even Spallina tweeted same exact sentiment, since he has to now go through it with his kids. I wish you all good luck!

I disagree. My daughter left YJ due to daddy coaching. Yes she was on the A team, but the politics were unbearable. Went to a different club where she was valued. Turns out, she was way better than all those girls playing over her. How do I know? Her accolade list far surpasses anyone else’s on that team, and she had the pick of schools she wanted to attend. Sometimes the grass is greener! YJ is great for some, especially those who like koolaid and wearing Bee gear. Not for us!

AMEN

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s HS All American. Not LI All American

The list is broken down by state and section so technically the above list is the NYS section XI list

You can break it down like this.let’s just say there 16 AA between Nassau and Suffolk.Out of that how many were from YJ and consider who from YJ is on the respective committee that vote on the selections.Not taking anything away from the honorees but it’s a big circus what’s been going on .time to drain the swamp of li lax leadership all across the board.

Does anyone know where we can find a list of the Suffolk County All-Americans, All-American Honorable Mention, and Academic All-Americans. Should be public record somewhere, no?

All the talk, concern and about all of the accolades is a waste of time, it's out of your control so don't waste your energy thinking about it.

All - County is based on how your team finishes the regular season, i.e. the team with the best record gets the most selections. It is not a vote, your coaches decides who makes it.

US Lacrosse All - American is selected by a committee (at least in the past not sure if it has changed). Nassau gets 9 AA's, Suffolk gets 8 AA's. The selection process for this award has always been the most political. Each year a handful of girls from each county who are good enough to make it are left off simply because of the limited number of spots available.

The accolades are nice but in the end nobody cares, the only accolade that really matters the one bestowed upon your daughter by the college coaches. If you really want to know where your daughter stands, look at the schools that offered your daughter a spot. The collective opinion of the college coaches will tell you how your ranks in relation to her peers .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the talk, concern and about all of the accolades is a waste of time, it's out of your control so don't waste your energy thinking about it.

All - County is based on how your team finishes the regular season, i.e. the team with the best record gets the most selections. It is not a vote, your coaches decides who makes it.

US Lacrosse All - American is selected by a committee (at least in the past not sure if it has changed). Nassau gets 9 AA's, Suffolk gets 8 AA's. The selection process for this award has always been the most political. Each year a handful of girls from each county who are good enough to make it are left off simply because of the limited number of spots available.

The accolades are nice but in the end nobody cares, the only accolade that really matters the one bestowed upon your daughter by the college coaches. If you really want to know where your daughter stands, look at the schools that offered your daughter a spot. The collective opinion of the college coaches will tell you how your ranks in relation to her peers .

Sorry, it only “doesn’t matter” to those not honored. Being selected as All-County, and All-American is a great honor, and those girls will remember that for the rest of their life. Yes, some good players are overlooked. Mostly because they are known ball hogs and/or they play on a weak team. I know of a couple girls that probably would have been selected All-Americans if they didn’t have such a selfish and unsportsmanlike like attitude. I agree with you about the college coaches list being the most important. It’s not a coincidence the All-Americans are committed to the top schools. So……is there a list of honorees somewhere? I would love to see the list!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the talk, concern and about all of the accolades is a waste of time, it's out of your control so don't waste your energy thinking about it.

All - County is based on how your team finishes the regular season, i.e. the team with the best record gets the most selections. It is not a vote, your coaches decides who makes it.

US Lacrosse All - American is selected by a committee (at least in the past not sure if it has changed). Nassau gets 9 AA's, Suffolk gets 8 AA's. The selection process for this award has always been the most political. Each year a handful of girls from each county who are good enough to make it are left off simply because of the limited number of spots available.

The accolades are nice but in the end nobody cares, the only accolade that really matters the one bestowed upon your daughter by the college coaches. If you really want to know where your daughter stands, look at the schools that offered your daughter a spot. The collective opinion of the college coaches will tell you how your ranks in relation to her peers .

Sorry, it only “doesn’t matter” to those not honored. Being selected as All-County, and All-American is a great honor, and those girls will remember that for the rest of their life. Yes, some good players are overlooked. Mostly because they are known ball hogs and/or they play on a weak team. I know of a couple girls that probably would have been selected All-Americans if they didn’t have such a selfish and unsportsmanlike like attitude. I agree with you about the college coaches list being the most important. It’s not a coincidence the All-Americans are committed to the top schools. So……is there a list of honorees somewhere? I would love to see the list!

*** "The accolades are nice but in the end nobody cares, the only accolade that really matters the one bestowed upon your daughter by the college coaches. If you really want to know where your daughter stands, look at the schools that offered your daughter a spot. The collective opinion of the college coaches will tell you how your ranks in relation to her peers ." ***

This... ^^^^^^^^

I hope that all of my children always focus on the present and do their best in the moment while working to constantly improve in all that they do. Don't want them focusing on or thinking about their past accolades (that's for parents and grandparents). IMHO, lacrosse has always been about my children getting all of the benefits that come from playing a "team sport" as well as being a hammerhead to help them get into a great university, making life long friends, networking, helping to find a career path and developing healthy lifestyle habits. Nobody will care that you were All-County or All-American in HS. The Accolades are all well and good but as with everything in life, it's all about the now and what's next.

I think it’s pretty darn cool to selected as an All County
All-American as a senior in HS is pretty darn special.
You will remember that for the rest of your life. You may not agree with selection process but when I look at the Nassau and Suffolk lists of AA; they are all pretty darn good players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it’s pretty darn cool to selected as an All County
All-American as a senior in HS is pretty darn special.
You will remember that for the rest of your life. You may not agree with selection process but when I look at the Nassau and Suffolk lists of AA; they are all pretty darn good players.

Pretty sure that everyone who received any type of accolade was notified, not sure why some keep asking for the lists to be published somewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it’s pretty darn cool to selected as an All County
All-American as a senior in HS is pretty darn special.
You will remember that for the rest of your life. You may not agree with selection process but when I look at the Nassau and Suffolk lists of AA; they are all pretty darn good players.

Pretty sure that everyone who received any type of accolade was notified, not sure why some keep asking for the lists to be published somewhere.

Because there are many fans that would like to know.

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Jackie Pitts AWard
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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it’s pretty darn cool to selected as an All County
All-American as a senior in HS is pretty darn special.
You will remember that for the rest of your life. You may not agree with selection process but when I look at the Nassau and Suffolk lists of AA; they are all pretty darn good players.

Pretty sure that everyone who received any type of accolade was notified, not sure why some keep asking for the lists to be published somewhere.

Because there are many fans that would like to know.

Academic AA
LD. WB
NY. BPT
AS. RIV
MB HARB
EC. NPT
AM. KP
KM. NPT
KB. HUNT

AA. HM

AS. RIV
JD. Com
KT. MC
AD. Com
KC BPT
KG WF
NM SW
EB WB

Jackie Pitts AWard
AS Riv

Thank you! Congratulations to all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it’s pretty darn cool to selected as an All County
All-American as a senior in HS is pretty darn special.
You will remember that for the rest of your life. You may not agree with selection process but when I look at the Nassau and Suffolk lists of AA; they are all pretty darn good players.

Pretty sure that everyone who received any type of accolade was notified, not sure why some keep asking for the lists to be published somewhere.

the list
https://www.usalacrosse.com/news-me...DAsVZbxSKGwp4r1mtSVuTOBqsUt9jQtdGaFbs3i0

While I do agree every girl on the list is pretty darn good, come on seriously, 3 girls from the same team?

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the talk, concern and about all of the accolades is a waste of time, it's out of your control so don't waste your energy thinking about it.

All - County is based on how your team finishes the regular season, i.e. the team with the best record gets the most selections. It is not a vote, your coaches decides who makes it.

US Lacrosse All - American is selected by a committee (at least in the past not sure if it has changed). Nassau gets 9 AA's, Suffolk gets 8 AA's. The selection process for this award has always been the most political. Each year a handful of girls from each county who are good enough to make it are left off simply because of the limited number of spots available.

The accolades are nice but in the end nobody cares, the only accolade that really matters the one bestowed upon your daughter by the college coaches. If you really want to know where your daughter stands, look at the schools that offered your daughter a spot. The collective opinion of the college coaches will tell you how your ranks in relation to her peers .

Sorry, it only “doesn’t matter” to those not honored. Being selected as All-County, and All-American is a great honor, and those girls will remember that for the rest of their life. Yes, some good players are overlooked. Mostly because they are known ball hogs and/or they play on a weak team. I know of a couple girls that probably would have been selected All-Americans if they didn’t have such a selfish and unsportsmanlike like attitude. I agree with you about the college coaches list being the most important. It’s not a coincidence the All-Americans are committed to the top schools. So……is there a list of honorees somewhere? I would love to see the list!

*** "The accolades are nice but in the end nobody cares, the only accolade that really matters the one bestowed upon your daughter by the college coaches. If you really want to know where your daughter stands, look at the schools that offered your daughter a spot. The collective opinion of the college coaches will tell you how your ranks in relation to her peers ." ***

This... ^^^^^^^^

I hope that all of my children always focus on the present and do their best in the moment while working to constantly improve in all that they do. Don't want them focusing on or thinking about their past accolades (that's for parents and grandparents). IMHO, lacrosse has always been about my children getting all of the benefits that come from playing a "team sport" as well as being a hammerhead to help them get into a great university, making life long friends, networking, helping to find a career path and developing healthy lifestyle habits. Nobody will care that you were All-County or All-American in HS. The Accolades are all well and good but as with everything in life, it's all about the now and what's next.

That resume isn't worth a nickel if the girl standing next to you is just as good. Accolades don't mean you're the best, just that you were the best that was there to choose from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

What was the reason???

Wow! When is the last time NO Yellow Jackets player is ranked in the top 20?? Only LI girl is A TG player. Lacrosse is growing!!
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ilwomen-class-of-2022-power-100-rankings/60324

Check your facts before posting. Rosga played fir YJ Curcio.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check your facts before posting. Rosga played fir YJ Curcio.

She is from Minnesota and played for lacrosse [Censored]. I know she played for Yellow Jackets too, but for how long and are you trying to say she is from Long Island?

Suffolk Class C is going to be a battle again this year. There are a lot of very talented players and great coaches in the division. With Westhampton Beach moving down from B there are now 8 legitimate, competitive programs playing for 6 playoff spots. It's going to be fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class C is going to be a battle again this year. There are a lot of very talented players and great coaches in the division. With Westhampton Beach moving down from B there are now 8 legitimate, competitive programs playing for 6 playoff spots. It's going to be fun to watch.

Bayport is clearly the cream of the crop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class C is going to be a battle again this year. There are a lot of very talented players and great coaches in the division. With Westhampton Beach moving down from B there are now 8 legitimate, competitive programs playing for 6 playoff spots. It's going to be fun to watch.

Bayport is clearly the cream of the crop.

What 2 teams don't make it ?

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

Could you be any more insecure? He was training those kids, all kids. prior to becoming the assistant coach at SAs.
From what I hear you’re lucky to have him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

What was the reason???

Because they are toxic, as is the entire crew over at LaxOn. Not a coincidence that Windsor was let go from Stony Brook School as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

Could you be any more insecure? He was training those kids, all kids. prior to becoming the assistant coach at SAs.
From what I hear you’re lucky to have him.

Exactly! This also goes on at many schools. Northport, is a very notable one. A coach there is part of a club and does extra training on the side for $s.. West Babylon, same. There are others as well. This is nothing new and has been going on for many years with HS coaches. You think they can make a living coaching? That’s funny. They usually are very good at training and have had that going on for years. There should be no reason they can’t continue their outside training, if it is open to all. If there is an obvious conflict, school can address it. However, don’t act like this is something new with the SA coach. SA is very lucky to have someone who is so committed to the game and teaching it as he is. This is a very positive move for SA bringing this guy on as a coach. They needed some fresh legs. It Was Getting stale there and not getting it done in big games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

Is it concerning to Northport, West Bab HS? Probably others as well, that have coaches that are part of clubs and/ or getting extra income from training.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

What was the reason???

Because they are toxic, as is the entire crew over at LaxOn. Not a coincidence that Windsor was let go from Stony Brook School as well.

lax on is a last resort organization no one chooses to play there

all their kids couldn’t cut it elsewhere

but some new assistant coach will be the reason their kids don’t touch the field at st a’s, ok sure

When discussing why coaches let go from a high school program there is zero need or reason to then knock down kids. Totally inappropriate, unnecessary and mean.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

What was the reason???

Because they are toxic, as is the entire crew over at LaxOn. Not a coincidence that Windsor was let go from Stony Brook School as well.

lax on is a last resort organization no one chooses to play there

all their kids couldn’t cut it elsewhere

but some new assistant coach will be the reason their kids don’t touch the field at st a’s, ok sure

Very classless comment. Shame on you. Adults and coaches are fair game. Shouldn’t talk about kids like this. Worry about your own kid and don’t comment on others abilities. Rude.

The women of this orfan

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

What was the reason???

Because they are toxic, as is the entire crew over at LaxOn. Not a coincidence that Windsor was let go from Stony Brook School as well.

There’s a reason they have beef with so many people. Ego too big for their hats these days

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

To the poster that said they trained there before: not true. Shame on st ants for allowing this. They have done so well with proper filtering until now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid turned down princeton because it would have been too long a drive for us. Pls let us know what D1 school offers you turned down, because of roster size. thanks

You're missing the point. Committing to a D1 school and never seeing the field isn't for everyone. If the education, playing time, money and comfort is there in. D2 school for an athlete it's a wonderful thing. Travel is a consideration for some folks who don't have the money to fly to games and stay in hotels. Many families have other school age children, maybe one income homes or have disabled spouse or special needs kids that can't travel. So yea, sometimes D2 schools are a better fit, No sarcasm here, enjoy watching your child play wherever they decide because life throws you curveballs every now and then and you never know how long you have left. Peace.

This post is spot on! The people who post sarcastic comments are so ignorant. I for one am a small
Business owner with 4 kids under 16. My sophomore just commited to an excellent academic d2 school within a 3 hr drive of my home. That's what worked for us. She had 2 offers from good d1 lax schools. But they were not as good once you factored in the travel time expenses and th possibility of. Not playing as much.

Its just my opinion, but i would sacrifice me being able to see my kid play live, for her to be at a better school. We've heard on the forum alot about kids having good d1 offers, curious to hear which schools. I do agree with going to a D2 school instead of a D1 school and not getting on the field. With that said its none of my business or anyone else what decisions people make.

Everyone should make whatever decisions are best for them of course. There is just so much misinformation floating around on here though that sometimes it seems like it's difficult to really know the tradeoffs you are making. Financially, academically etc. Not just for the short run, but for the long run. For instance, if it's a 10k a year difference, but a much better academic institution, seems like it might be worth it to take a student loan for the difference etc. Or the guy that says u need 100 GPA to get into an Ivy, which is wrong. And I know a kid going to G-town w a 2.9 GPA and one to BC w similar. So what are the grades a kid actually needs to get into certain schools. Whether it's D1, D2 or D3. It would be great if people were willing to honestly share the tradeoffs they have made. It would help the rest of us. What D1 schools were turned down for the D2 opportunity. Who's kid made the decision to play D3? Why? What's the equivalent talent level in D1 for Courtland or Middlebury? So what are some likely choices between divisions for that level of player etc.

"What are the grades that a kid actually needs to get into certain schools?"

- It all depends on where the coach has the player ranked on their recruiting list. The #1 recruit on the list will not have the same requirements as the # 8.

The Ivy's work off of an "academic index" there are minimum requirements for each individual. However, the average for the recruiting class is significantly higher than the minimum therefore if a priority recruit is close to the minimum the coach will take a less qualified player if they have better grades (in order to pull the class average up).

Other Highly Competitive Schools such as Duke, Georgetown, BC, ND etc... have what are known as "Slots". The coach has the ability to get a certain number of players into the school. In general, those students must have very good grades but the requirements are less than a regular student would need to get into the school. For a recruited athlete the coach would like to see 90+ avg and a minimum of 1200 on the SAT and 27 ACT. Anything less would be cause for concern. Again, the coach will have more flexibility with their top recruits.

From what I have been told, Northwestern does not have a cap on admission slots but they follow similar guideline as to who they choose to get into the school.

Remember, the coaches want the kids to be successful both on the field and in the classroom. Coaches will only take so many chances with players who do not demonstrate that they have the ability to succeed in the classroom.

As far as scholarship dollars go, don't listen to anyone. Each individual case is different. The Top recruits at fully funded schools are offered significant $$. The #1 recruit might get 75% or more, the #5 might get 25-30% and the #9 or #10 might be offered an admission slot and no athletic scholarship.
Each case is different.

If finances and cost are your biggest concern explore all options. If your daughter is a good student and a good lacrosse player you should be able to find a school that will be able to make it work financially.

If your daughter is a great student and a great lacrosse player she can write her own ticked to any school she wants. if your daughter is great student and an ok lacrosse player she can fide a school that will give her a lot of academic $$. If your daughter is a great lacrosse player and an average student she will be just fine as well, some really good schools will give plenty of athletic $$.

Ivy's do not offer athletic scholarships. (they have very generous need based aid).

Schools like Northwestens, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, BC also offer generous need based aid packages. (they also offer athletic scholarships)

To the best of my knowledge you can not combine Athletic $$ and Need Based Aid. You can however combine Academic $$ and Athletic $$.

If your daughter is being recruited and offered a spot at North Carolina, Maryland, Penn State and Syracuse but not being offered a lot of $$ you can drop down a notch and be offered a lot more $$. It works the same way on the Academic side. If your daughter has the grades to be recruited and offered a spot and an Ivy you can drop down a bit academically and pick up significant academic $$.

DII and DIII have different rules than DI.

Wow. Thank you. Best, most accurate post I have ever seen on here. Huge help to lots of people trying to figure out the road ahead.

Above is great advice. If you are able to get your income down under $150K by dumping into 401, 457 etc. and your child has good grades and is a top player, you will actually get more money than most athletic scholarships offer at well endowed Ivies and others like Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, Hopkins, Vandy. Even with an income of 170K you will get about 60% at Yale/Princeton/Penn. At the non-Ivies, you would automatically add 7% more on top of the need based (that’s the max allowed). Degrees from those type of schools open up many doors. A top 10 school is in a far different league than 20+. The goal should be to get into the best possible school paying the least possible money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The women of this orfan

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

What was the reason???

Because they are toxic, as is the entire crew over at LaxOn. Not a coincidence that Windsor was let go from Stony Brook School as well.

There’s a reason they have beef with so many people. Ego too big for their hats these days

More like lax off. Not sure why the egos are so big. Seems going from humble training company to trying to be a part of the club scene has back fired. All they do is try and out others down yet preach supporting one another. Not sure what happened to them. Not to mention talking poorly about other programs kids after their High-school games to their club players or simply approaching parents recruiting their kids through club and high-school platforms. It’s distasteful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The women of this orfan

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh HS just released the lacrosse coaches.

What was the reason???

Because they are toxic, as is the entire crew over at LaxOn. Not a coincidence that Windsor was let go from Stony Brook School as well.

There’s a reason they have beef with so many people. Ego too big for their hats these days

More like lax off. Not sure why the egos are so big. Seems going from humble training company to trying to be a part of the club scene has back fired. All they do is try and out others down yet preach supporting one another. Not sure what happened to them. Not to mention talking poorly about other programs kids after their High-school games to their club players or simply approaching parents recruiting their kids through club and high-school platforms. It’s distasteful.

she’s the Wolf you don’t feed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

To the poster that said they trained there before: not true. Shame on st ants for allowing this. They have done so well with proper filtering until now

I think you people live in a bubble. The boy's Catholic(s) coaches run an entire lacrosse club Long Island. They still only play the best players at school, regardless of their club affiliation. An assistant girls' coach running training on the side is small potatoes. And yes, many HS coaches have training side gigs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

To the poster that said they trained there before: not true. Shame on st ants for allowing this. They have done so well with proper filtering until now

I think you people live in a bubble. The boy's Catholic(s) coaches run an entire lacrosse club Long Island. They still only play the best players at school, regardless of their club affiliation. An assistant girls' coach running training on the side is small potatoes. And yes, many HS coaches have training side gigs.

Agreed, I can think of at least 2 dozen HS coaches off the top of my head that also coach club teams. A few even own or direct club programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

To the poster that said they trained there before: not true. Shame on st ants for allowing this. They have done so well with proper filtering until now

I think you people live in a bubble. The boy's Catholic(s) coaches run an entire lacrosse club Long Island. They still only play the best players at school, regardless of their club affiliation. An assistant girls' coach running training on the side is small potatoes. And yes, many HS coaches have training side gigs.

Agreed, I can think of at least 2 dozen HS coaches off the top of my head that also coach club teams. A few even own or direct club programs.

Just because they do, does it make it right? Conflicts of interest should be avoided at all costs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class C is going to be a battle again this year. There are a lot of very talented players and great coaches in the division. With Westhampton Beach moving down from B there are now 8 legitimate, competitive programs playing for 6 playoff spots. It's going to be fun to watch.

Bayport is clearly the cream of the crop.

When has that mattered? Bayport is stacked every year. They lose, when it counts, every year.

The Bayport Bridesmaids.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

To the poster that said they trained there before: not true. Shame on st ants for allowing this. They have done so well with proper filtering until now

I think you people live in a bubble. The boy's Catholic(s) coaches run an entire lacrosse club Long Island. They still only play the best players at school, regardless of their club affiliation. An assistant girls' coach running training on the side is small potatoes. And yes, many HS coaches have training side gigs.

Agreed, I can think of at least 2 dozen HS coaches off the top of my head that also coach club teams. A few even own or direct club programs.

Just because they do, does it make it right? Conflicts of interest should be avoided at all costs.

2wolfes dude obviously conflict of interest but what’s more inflated than his fees is his ego. Bless those kids and their families

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else extremely concerned by the new St Anthony’s assistant filtering kids through his training. I know most public schools won’t hire those who train or coach club due to conflict of interest. Why is it ok in this situation when a handful of the team is at his private sessions and winter league where he’s making $ off them and in a few months will be choosing who subs in and makes a team?

It should be very concerning as St Anthony's has become a pay/play with the new assistant coach.

To the poster that said they trained there before: not true. Shame on st ants for allowing this. They have done so well with proper filtering until now

I think you people live in a bubble. The boy's Catholic(s) coaches run an entire lacrosse club Long Island. They still only play the best players at school, regardless of their club affiliation. An assistant girls' coach running training on the side is small potatoes. And yes, many HS coaches have training side gigs.

Agreed, I can think of at least 2 dozen HS coaches off the top of my head that also coach club teams. A few even own or direct club programs.

Just because they do, does it make it right? Conflicts of interest should be avoided at all costs.

2wolfes dude obviously conflict of interest but what’s more inflated than his fees is his ego. Bless those kids and their families

Couldn’t be father from true, and if you knew him at all you’d know. This whole thread about him training kids is unnecessary. All the coaches train kids. Get over it

Lax on parents drive mini vans

Parents acting like children again