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Anonymous #263575 05/24/18 09:46 AM
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15 minutes of stalling could of cost them the game. They did turn it over once and a few times dropped the ball. They are not as talented as some think, if they can't catch a simple pass to them. Hard time scooping up the ball too. That is lacrosse 101. Bert can't even do that. Hence why he is a high school coach and not college because if he staled in college, wouldn't work and he would be a below 500 coach.

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When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


They have been chosen- couple of weeks ago -- coach picks them and then the conference coaches vote.

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Anonymous #263577 05/24/18 09:48 AM
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Was surprised to see Syosset lose to Port last night

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have

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When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have


3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.

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Anonymous #263586 05/24/18 10:50 AM
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Was surprised to see Syosset lose to Port last night



weren't they ranked top ten nationally at some point? what a joke

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When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have


3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.


These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.

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When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have



3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.


These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.


Wrong, coaches do not vote on all county.

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do you know how many allotments each team has. Did it change this year? Is it an extra player per round if they make playoffs? Are there all tournament Playoff awards?
Obviously just curious

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do you know how many allotments each team has. Did it change this year? Is it an extra player per round if they make playoffs? Are there all tournament Playoff awards?
Obviously just curious


Its a team game, only award that you should be worrying about is the state title...if your not first your last

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do you know how many allotments each team has. Did it change this year? Is it an extra player per round if they make playoffs? Are there all tournament Playoff awards?
Obviously just curious


It is done before the Playoffs so if you are a #1 seed, the team can get allotted anywhere from 6-12 awards. Am finding out now exactly how many spots are given to each respective team in the order in which they are ranked/seeded going into the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have



3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.


These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.


Wrong, coaches do not vote on all county.


Coaches Absolutely Do Vote for All County Players. The only award that is "given" out is All Conference...HM All County & All County Awards are voted by the coaches but you have to be nominated by your coach.

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When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have




3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.


These points have some validity however there are some differences. Players can and do earn All-County even if they do not make the playoffs. The way way the awards work are contingent on your teams success in which then the team is allotted a certain number of All Conference, Honorable Mention All County and All County awards BUT the other coaches do have to vote a certain percentage in order for a player to earn All County and obviously for All American which is very difficult to earn. Unfortunately, teams that are good get allotted a high number of awards that most likely take away from a good player on a bad team and it's unfortunate that some of the awards are not truly voted upon by the coaches but just given by your coach bc of the system.


Wrong, coaches do not vote on all county.


Coaches Absolutely Do Vote for All County Players. The only award that is "given" out is All Conference...HM All County & All County Awards are voted by the coaches but you have to be nominated by your coach.


You can say that all you want but you are still wrong .i have been to those meetings . Simply put each team is given a certain amount of awards strictly based on where they finished at the end of the regular season . If a team is given let’s say 2 all county , 3 all division based on where they finished the head coach selects who gets those awards, on occasion a coach may trade an all county for two all divisions with another coach etc but it is not voted on .This is in regard to section 11 and AA awards are done differently .

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When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have


3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.



So why is favoritism allowed over talent, stats? A really good player can be overlooked by her coach because of playing favorites? Aren't there some general guidelines?

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When do All County Players get chosen? Who determines the players and what criteria?


1- If your team did not make the playoffs, you will not have any All County players on it.. regardless of talent.

2- the level of your teams success determines how many "award" slots they will have


3- Your coach chooses whom within the team to award. Favorites > those who deserve it.



So why is favoritism allowed over talent, stats? A really good player can be overlooked by her coach because of playing favorites? Aren't there some general guidelines?


You lost me at stats. I think it's been argued here to death that at least half the time someone's stats are the result of running up the score against weaker teams. HS teams keep stats for goals and assists, and goalie stats. No one is tallying ground balls or caused turnovers. Can you see where I'm going here? Plenty of girls who do their job and do it well but don't get recognition. As far as I know, there are no guidelines. There's a lot of stats (and we all know their worth) and then there's who the coach values or likes. Color me jaded. I saw a girl get All County when she couldn't even do a thing with her non-dominant hand. She couldn't understand plays, would ask my kid to explain them to her and then not execute them. An athletic girl but not a stellar lacrosse player but the coach love, love, loved her.

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