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anyone want to take a stab at next years Nassau power conference teams while its still top of mind? I cant see any of the teams that won big playing a cupcake schedule below asking to move up, but will any existing power conference team ask to move down? I think we saw in the playoffs that teams that weren't in the power conference weren't competitive in the playoffs.

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I can see Oceanside dropping out and perhaps Farmingdale coming back in. I do not see any other B or C teams moving up.

Also, CSH up 16-8 in semi against Jamesville-Dewitt very late in game

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I can see Oceanside dropping out and perhaps Farmingdale coming back in. I do not see any other B or C teams moving up.

Also, CSH up 16-8 in semi against Jamesville-Dewitt very late in game


Farmingdale didn't do great down below and typically they never shy away from competition I could see them or Southside going up. The top3 Locust Valley Plainedge Seaford would get crushed and like winning so I don't see them going but Oceanside had a really tough 0-fer season so they should be on way down to regroup

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Conf A is Brutal.. not sure anyone would volunteer.. but SouthSide & the Dalers seem reasonable. Both decent lacrosse towns..

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So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?


The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?



I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .


If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players

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So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?


The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?



I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .


If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players


The majority of top recruits do pan out. The majority of top recruits at the top programs do not stop playing.

Take a look at this years freshman class the majority of top recruits were impact players at powerhouse programs.

I know many of you want these young women to fail but the reality is the majority of the top recruits go on to have successful college careers.

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Let me reframe the question...I would say 50% of the early recruits (those that committed in 8th and 9th grade) have panned out by 12th grade, then the number four years from now will be substantially lower. So of these will 25% still be strong players in college as they graduate? Maybe that is the expectation. And will that be a lower percentage than the girls coming up with later recruiting rules? Will the girls recruited earlier have higher transfer rates than the girls who commit later?

I am somewhat leading the argument...I believe later recruiting is better and more accurate. The best player on our hs team was a little under the radar as a 9th grader. She is going D1 to a mid-major lacrosse school, although a great academic school...it will work out well for this girl. However if she came up with today’s recruiting rules, she would be looking at Ivy League and Stanford as well as the top level lacrosse schools. So as we watch these transition years from early recruiting to 11th grade recruiting what do people think is better?

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Does anyone know why the classification is different for girls than it is for boys

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Let me reframe the question...I would say 50% of the early recruits (those that committed in 8th and 9th grade) have panned out by 12th grade, then the number four years from now will be substantially lower. So of these will 25% still be strong players in college as they graduate? Maybe that is the expectation. And will that be a lower percentage than the girls coming up with later recruiting rules? Will the girls recruited earlier have higher transfer rates than the girls who commit later?

I am somewhat leading the argument...I believe later recruiting is better and more accurate. The best player on our hs team was a little under the radar as a 9th grader. She is going D1 to a mid-major lacrosse school, although a great academic school...it will work out well for this girl. However if she came up with today’s recruiting rules, she would be looking at Ivy League and Stanford as well as the top level lacrosse schools. So as we watch these transition years from early recruiting to 11th grade recruiting what do people think is better?


You are jealous and bitter. You are not leading anything . If your daughter was as strong as you think she would have been picked up by a better program. If your daughter had excellent grades and was also an excellent player she could have gone to an Ivy or Stanford .

You are the only one who thinks she is all that.

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Depends on the overall total number of schools that participate in the sport

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Lacrosse is the easiest pathway to play a sport in college especially on the girls side. More and more colleges are adding the sport every year and anyone that watches the college game knows that outside of the top 30 or so the talent level is average. The top schools are all targeting the top players because there aren't that many of them. At the D2 and D3 level again except for the very top lax schools the sport is almost a walk on. Just enjoy the ride. Look in the mirror, its ok if your kid wasn't born as a top 5 percenter. the bottom 95% of college players are doing great! Playing while getting a degree

Oh that stat about only 50% of college players playing all 4 years is spot on so enjoy it while you can!

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So this year's senior class is one of the last of the super early recruiting classes. Share opinions of whether you think the college coaches who committed 9th graders 3 years ago got it right or wrong. I see several top seniors who were overlooked in 9th and 10th grade, but really peaked in 11th and 12th who are not going to top tier lacrosse schools. Certainly in some cases the top college teams got it right with the younger girls, but in my opinion it was pretty much 50% of the early commits had strong junior and senior campaigns and 50% have not quite panned out yet. What do other people think?


The coaches would be beyond thrilled if 50% of the recruits panned out, the real number tops out around 25-30% and sometimes it can be much less. How many times have you heard ND #1 recruiting class in the country or Florida top #3 recruiting class in the country and the have nothing to show for it.
This year ND put the weight of the team on a freshman, what happened to all the studs from the previous three classes? The were not as good as the coach thought they were! Coaches get it wrong at all levels of every sport more often than not, it's nothing more than a calculated guess and a numbers game. How many Heisman trophy winners have had exceptional NFL careers?



I think it’s an impossible subject to comment on as most do not want to post negative things about young women . To say 25-30 % at best pan out is ridiculous as no one really knows what these coaches expectations of these players really was nor what type scholarship they were receiving . I can tell you that of the players from my daughters travel team a greater number panned out than did not .


If there's 30-40 players on any given roster, 15 play meaningful minutes - that's just reality, no bias, nothing negative, just reality and numbers, around 50% (according to Bald Bear) will no longer be playing by senior year. If a coach recruits 8-10 kids they know the majority won't be impact players


The majority of top recruits do pan out. The majority of top recruits at the top programs do not stop playing.

Take a look at this years freshman class the majority of top recruits were impact players at powerhouse programs.

I know many of you want these young women to fail but the reality is the majority of the top recruits go on to have successful college careers.


this is just not true. Looking at the 2015 class, out of the top 50players, maybe 5 panned out to be truly top players. If anyone can come up wit more, prove it.

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Nice to see the 3 long island girls teams that won states did it with balanced scoring and played a team game. Many other teams can take a closer look at playing a team game and having better results. Are you paying attention West Babylon Coach?

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Nice to see the 3 long island girls teams that won states did it with balanced scoring and played a team game. Many other teams can take a closer look at playing a team game and having better results. Are you paying attention West Babylon Coach?


West Islip coach?

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Congratulations to all the girls this year.

Long Island has a lot to be proud of with its teams accomplishments especially the three state champs that were crowned this weekend!!!

Class B Champions Manhasset (sec 8) 6-4 over Brighton

Class C Champions Cold Spring Harbor (sec 8) 16-3 over Honeoye Falls-Lima

Class D Champions Mattituck-Southhold (sec 11) 12-1 over Bronxville

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