I have read here several times that HS coaches are prohibited from coaching a team with more than 4-5 players from their HS during the offseason (or something similar). Also reference was made just recently to the prohibition against HS coaches using HS/public fields for their club teams. I am in a situation where the coach has informed the HS players that they won't play on varsity unless they play in the HS Coach's club team or at least attend certain tournaments with the HS Coach's club team. Can anyone point to the specific regulations/laws or point me in the right direction? I have looked but have not been able to find anything. Thanks
Many years ago a coach could not be with his kids during the off-season. A dad used to coach my summer and winter lax teams. That however, is not the case anymore. Also, with the use of fields, a coach simply has to fill out a form to use the fields of the high school or other district fields Anyone can fill out the form and then the AD approves it. Here are the section XI rules on off-season practices. Basically, you can't put it in writing that off-season is mandatory. You can just "highly suggest".
VII. Out of Season Practice Policy On May 24, 2000, the Section XI Athletic Council eliminated the Section XI Out of Season Practice Policy (sometimes referred to as the 49% rule) entirely!
Understand, however, that this action does not necessarily make practicing out of season OK. Schools are still bound by the NYSPHSAA regulations. They are:
NYSPHSAA REGULATION - PRACTICE SESSIONS: a. An organized practice in grades 7-12 is a session for the purpose of providing instruction and practice in physical conditioning activities, skills, team play, and game strategy designed expressly for that sport under the supervision of a qualified coach appointed by the Board of Education of the local school district. Such instruction and practice shall be held only during the season designated for that sport. c. School sponsored activities conducted out of the sport season such as general conditioning, weight training, weight lifting, intramurals, recreation, open gyms, club activities and camps are permitted: 1. If such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel; 2. If such programs are available to all students. d. Non-school sponsored activities are permitted if such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel. It is recommended that no school equipment be used for these programs as per State Comptroller Opinion 85-37.
Rev 5/11
This is very helpful and enlightening. What, then, is the difference between a math teacher not being able to tutor/give extra help to one of their students for money and a coach running a summer sports program (which is now all year) in which their players pay money for? I don't think their is a difference yet the coach is allowed to take money from their players and the math teacher can't do the same with his/her student. He conflicts are the same.
Start a math club. You can even run a for profit math competition at the high school in the summer. Have students from around the country come and pay $250 - $300 per student to compete in the Math Olympics. Maybe you could have professors and admissions officers from Harvard , Princeton, Stanford, MIT etc... come and recruit the math students.
You sound like a lawyer. For anyone who is trafficking on this website they're more likely to spend their last dollar forking it over to a lacrosse coach than setting up a math fair. The issue is that coaches, and teachers, already hold the cards vis-a-vis the students/athletes. When you introduce travel programs run by their coaches the kids, and their parents, lose any leverage they might have. The coaches dictate where the kid can play and where the money goes. Look at the travel programs run by high school coaches , everyone knows which ones they are, a kid can't go outside their coaches program or they're run out of town. Don't see any difference between a school coach and a school teacher.
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