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I’ll make a comment on youth sports in general and as to IMO these altercations are occurring.
I was at a 2022 tourney a few weeks ago and the teams aren’t important. But what is important across the board is the behavior of the coaches on the sidelines when they don’t get a call or have any issues with the refs. It’s deploable. Now not all, but many fall into this category.
The sideline attitude transfers to the players on the field. The constant screaming at the refs transcends to the players and they start chirping at the refs/other players as well. This is youth sports and is unacceptable. Many of these coaches are gentlemen off the field and go off the rails on the sidelines. We are all competitive in nature but teaching to play hard and clean and respect your opponent and honor the game have gone completely out the window.
I witnessed at least 3 kids on the opposing teams chirping at the refs who made a call against their team. Don’t get me wrong, the team my son was a guest on the coach was not quiet at all and rode the refs hard. Personally, if one of my players spoke to the refs in anything other then a respectful manor, I would pull them off the field myself as a coach and bench them without any prompting.
Meanwhile one of the players chirping at the ref had 4-5 personal fouls in the game and played every minute he wasn’t in the box, also a bad message to send IMO.

The bottomline for me is, set a good positive example for the players(kids) and they will be respectful. Set the tone we currently are, and expect more bad behavior. If I was a ref and a child spoke to me in a disrespectful manner, both teams would get a warning and the next time any player would be ejected from any game I reffed. The refs aren’t punching bags and yes bad calls are made, but the direction of all youth sports is going in a direction it shouldn’t be.

Again, this is probably JM (aka Dingleberry) and his United crew trying to say how good United is.

United lost every game on Saturday. United lost to:
2Way 7-4
Express Chan 8-3
9D1 Maryland 9-2

They were never even competitive in any of those games. United ended up ranked #6 out of 7 teams in AA division and lost every game in regular play. They are definitely not a AA team. On Sunday, they entered the consolation round (ranked #6) and won their 2 consolation games.

Schwalje won only one game going 1-2 in regular play in the A division and won 1 out of 2 games in the consolation round on Sunday.

Schwalje, O'Reilly, Chucks and United are failed experiments from Express and 9D1. Chan tried to capitalize on winning the World Series of Youth Lax last year by creating 4 teams. He only cares about his AA team, but with 4 teams he has about 35 kids on AA, 20 kids on the other 2 teams for a total of 95 kids. Multiply that times $3800 in up front tuition (they charged more for other training throughout the year), that is almost $400k. The Chucks team barely has enough kids showing up to practice and their coach does not show up either. O'Reilly and Schwalje picked up some kids so they got better. Parents really got screwed by Chan and thought he would bring down some of the AA kids to help out the other three teams and keep them as contenders, but instead Express keeps one dominant AA team and has 3 other teams to profit from which cannot compete at a B level.

9D1 keeps 22 kids on Smash. Great roster size, great coaching and great skill sets if you can make that team, but that team is pretty much closed.

Dingleberry and his 9D1 United team has almost as many kids as Chan - 30 kids! They kept getting bigger and kept picking up new kids. They picked up two kids last week, right at the start of summer tourney season. Talk about screwing parents over who paid, practiced and played all year, only to keep getting new kids AND getting 2 new additions right before summer play. Never play for a coach who holds tryouts, then picks up kids throughout the year. One parent told me the joke on that team is "who else is going to show up for practice?" They say EVERYONE who showed up to practice for that team was allowed on, no one was cut. Any travel team that takes your money and keeps over 25 kids is a joke. With all these kids, the best they can do is win 2 consolation games?

With tryouts around the corner, ask yourself if you want to pay this kind of money to play for Express with too many teams or with 9D1 United who will add kids throughout the year and still can't win. You can believe United will keep adding kids until they finally win some time next year.

The next teams to consider are:

F$G
Outlawz
Iglooo B
Legacee

After the above teams come True Blue, Hitmen, Empire, Force and possibly the new team called Rebels.

If they don't know you by now, your kid is not getting on Igloo AA, Chan AA or 9D1 AA. Those teams are far too talented, the kids have played together for a long time and they are closed teams.

Stay away from Express' B, C and D team. They are actually all C teams whose claim to fame is they all practice with Chan's AA team, but suffer from coaches and kids not showing up.

Stay away from 9D1 United. Dingleberry will just take your money and add kids all year!