to answer "why all the hate on the turtles?".... I don't think the "hate" is on the turtles, but its for some of the arrogant responses from the turtle PARENTS on the discussion board...

NOTICE - all other club (TB, 91, etc...) parents seem to be able to credit other club teams for their strengths and talents after watching the competition
But why is it when the discussion compares the contrasting styles of play to the turtles, the response(s) from turtle nation are defensive and condescending??

...just maybe it because some of the up and coming clubs, have closed the gap