The turtles play 1 year up not 4. And the older teams they play are not turtle caliber. The older teams they choose to play are good or very good not great. So that is not a good argument. If you have to [lacrosse] back to 1999 or 2000 for an example then you lost the argument. Anyone will tell you it is a completely different game now. The starters for places like GC and Manhasset are college bound players. They are equivalent to good travel teams. They are not going to put 13 yr olds with 18 yr olds. It has not happened in the recent past, now or in the near future. As good as some of them might be ....it won't happen. Just go watch these JV teams play. Forget about Varsity.You will then understand. Remember for smaller districts it might be necessary.