Everybody remain calm. Nobody is attacking the turtles. This is just a discussion about how a good team should generally challenge itself - whether its the Turtles or any other very good team. This doesn't have to be directed toward the Turtles specifically but the Turtles are being used as an example because of their recent dominance in Florida. But from what I can see here everybody on the outside looking in seems to have a healthy respect and admiration for the Turtles and its directors and what they have put together. Bravo - we should all wish them well.