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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/07/19 02:04 PM
Hawks tryouts this weekend. I wonder if it will be a big turnout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/19 01:14 PM
What happened to the Hawks? They lost two yesterday. I saw them play FCA and they got smoked. Did they lose some players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/19 04:04 PM
They played in the 2026AA bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/19 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played in the 2026AA bracket.


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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/19 05:08 PM
So they played on age...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/19 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played in the 2026AA bracket.

so they played on age
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/19 07:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played in the 2026AA bracket.


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I was at the tournament. I don't know how they came up with the bracket designations for 2026 because the kids were the same in both. If the Hawks 2027 were playing on age in a 2026 bracket then that is a really small team. They were definitely out-sized and out-skilled for the most part.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/20 03:13 AM
2027 Hawks would have run through the 2027 bracket. Kudos to them for playing up. I know some parents from that Hawks team. They have 2 holdbacks total. 2. They start 2 2028’s! So I guess they cancel each other out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/29/20 03:22 PM
Solid team. I think we need to distinguish whether a kid is 2028 in their schooling or age. If they were born before Sept 2009 and after August 2008 then they were meant to be a 2027, at least in MD public school. They may be a different year academic wise, up or down, and that's just their journey. If they are actually younger then Aug 2009 that is a difficult feat. Otherwise I would question saying that 2028s are starting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/29/20 04:39 PM
A team takes on the challenge and plays up to improve themselves. What comes out of it? The whining about what kids are on the proper class year or not. Please leave the hold back none sense behind and let kids be kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/29/20 06:31 PM
When other club sports like soccer are strict on this why is pointing this discrepancy in lacrosse nonsense. I've seen well talented kids kicked off their club team when a kid plays down takes their place. And parents who brag that their kids are playing up in club when actually playing in the right age group, not school year, are right to be called out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/02/20 12:07 PM
Apples and oranges. You play by the rules set up by the organizers. Luckily, there are plenty of options in lacrosse in the form of USL sanctioned tournaments and A and B level tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/02/20 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When other club sports like soccer are strict on this why is pointing this discrepancy in lacrosse nonsense. I've seen well talented kids kicked off their club team when a kid plays down takes their place. And parents who brag that their kids are playing up in club when actually playing in the right age group, not school year, are right to be called out.


Fighting a losing battle. The holdbacks won. If you can, reclass. Do it . You will competing more and more with players getting an age advantage most dont get.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/20 03:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When other club sports like soccer are strict on this why is pointing this discrepancy in lacrosse nonsense. I've seen well talented kids kicked off their club team when a kid plays down takes their place. And parents who brag that their kids are playing up in club when actually playing in the right age group, not school year, are right to be called out.


Fighting a losing battle. The holdbacks won. If you can, reclass. Do it . You will competing more and more with players getting an age advantage most dont get.


And in Maryland, you have very little chance of playing at a high level unless held back. Too many private school holdbacks/prefirsts to compete against. By the time you get to High School and caught up with them physically, it will be to late.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/07/20 09:33 PM
So what's your point, don't play? There are only 2 holdbacks on the 27 hawks and they aren't the best players. Those kids play a LOT of lacrosse, maybe they are good because they put in more effort?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/20 11:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's your point, don't play? There are only 2 holdbacks on the 27 hawks and they aren't the best players. Those kids play a LOT of lacrosse, maybe they are good because they put in more effort?

Keep dreaming, in next two years it will be holdbacks/prefirst/reclass dominating most top teams, along with the players born Sept-Dec who werent held back.

Sorry, It is just the way it is in MD and Northeast....and now in many other areas.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/20 06:17 PM
Dreaming? That's a fact 2, hold backs on that team and 2 who are playing up. They are clearly one of the best teams right now, I don't care if kids get held back or not. My point was that the 27 Hawks are not "full of holdbacks" which is the common theme above.

Again, what's the point? Reclass or not you can be good even playing against hold backs, seems like an excuse to me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/20 09:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dreaming? That's a fact 2, hold backs on that team and 2 who are playing up. They are clearly one of the best teams right now, I don't care if kids get held back or not. My point was that the 27 Hawks are not "full of holdbacks" which is the common theme above.

Again, what's the point? Reclass or not you can be good even playing against hold backs, seems like an excuse to me.

You obviously have not been thru the grind in last 5 years with respect to lacrosse played from 8-12th grade. Just wait until Puberty hits and many of your on age players are passed by holdbacks hitting puberty earlier and others that puberty has propelled along. Then it will be,,I got to do something, Johnny cant compete, These next few years are the big years to establish yourself, and being older works.

From 6 to 9th grade the lacrosse world changes. Reclass is on the way for many who really want to play on a top HS team. Sorry, No other way for many. 5-9 to 5-11 lacrosse player does not work on age for top HS or club teams. If your goal is Towson HS, you are ok, If your goal is MIAA, Dont even think on age will work. It wont for majority of players. The best teams starters are those same prefirst/holdbacks/reclassed everyone complains about and says will not make it. LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/20 10:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's your point, don't play? There are only 2 holdbacks on the 27 hawks and they aren't the best players. Those kids play a LOT of lacrosse, maybe they are good because they put in more effort?

Keep dreaming, in next two years it will be holdbacks/prefirst/reclass dominating most top teams, along with the players born Sept-Dec who werent held back.

Sorry, It is just the way it is in MD and Northeast....and now in many other areas.
So now we are grouping Sept-Dec birthdays in with holdbacks? You are truly pathetic. I feel very sorry for your player.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/20 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's your point, don't play? There are only 2 holdbacks on the 27 hawks and they aren't the best players. Those kids play a LOT of lacrosse, maybe they are good because they put in more effort?

Keep dreaming, in next two years it will be holdbacks/prefirst/reclass dominating most top teams, along with the players born Sept-Dec who werent held back.

Sorry, It is just the way it is in MD and Northeast....and now in many other areas.
So now we are grouping Sept-Dec birthdays in with holdbacks? You are truly pathetic. I feel very sorry for your player.

I see you missed out on reading comprehension in school. Easy to comprehend your player is a holdback who couldn't make it on age. Your player will always carry the holdback badge with him. Well done.

Might want to read Malcolm Gladwell's book " Outliers ". It will help with understanding Sept-Dec birthdays. But first take a refresher course in reading comprehension.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/10/20 09:09 AM
You sound bitter...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/20 02:41 PM
Why is Team MD pushing that they won an elite tournament for 26 and 27s? The 26 "elite" won in the B division and the 27 won against teams that were taken down easily by A teams last year. Great job winning a tournament. Simmer down now and come back with real elite wins.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/20 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is Team MD pushing that they won an elite tournament for 26 and 27s? The 26 "elite" won in the B division and the 27 won against teams that were taken down easily by A teams last year. Great job winning a tournament. Simmer down now and come back with real elite wins.

Chill out Dad... let them have their moment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/16/20 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is Team MD pushing that they won an elite tournament for 26 and 27s? The 26 "elite" won in the B division and the 27 won against teams that were taken down easily by A teams last year. Great job winning a tournament. Simmer down now and come back with real elite wins.

Do you even have to ask ??? " Give it to the 9th grader "
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/20 01:12 AM
Wow! Heard Team MD is cleaning up at Young Gunz and beat Hawks... What is going on with the Hawks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/20 11:15 AM
Lol the Hawks are 3-0 heading into day 2 and beat team md
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/20 02:55 PM
Team MD appears to have had a good showing. The Crabs are not as consistent as they have been in the past especially with all the new looney players (hint, stop carrying your looneys bag around). Team MD has a game against Madlax this afternoon. If they can keep the score close that'll be impressive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/20 02:56 PM
The score looks decent. Have not heard how the game play went.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/20 12:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team MD appears to have had a good showing. The Crabs are not as consistent as they have been in the past especially with all the new looney players (hint, stop carrying your looneys bag around). Team MD has a game against Madlax this afternoon. If they can keep the score close that'll be impressive.
Usually Team MD is a bunch of trophy hunters, playing down to look better, but this team is decent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/20 03:04 AM
They beat MadLax by three and lost to the Hawks by one. Sounds pretty decent to me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/21/20 02:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They beat MadLax by three and lost to the Hawks by one. Sounds pretty decent to me.


I disagree. The sum doesn’t equal the parts. On the contrary, these two teams are on a crash course to meet again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/21/20 01:46 PM
I don’t get what you disagree with, and which two teams are on course to meet again?
I was responding to the poster who said that Team MD are trophy hunters who play down in weak events. My point was that they went 1-1 in close games with Hawks and MadLax, two extremely strong teams, and therefore should be a strong team too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/21/20 01:48 PM
Good showing. Don't know the current size of the hawks 27 but heat mgmt has to be an issue if they're playing few players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/21/20 01:54 PM
Everybody played in the same heat and nobody had a small roster. Hard to see how conditions favor one team over another.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/21/20 03:16 PM
I know that Hawks team pretty well, normally they don't sub attack and d but they have middies for days. When their first and 3rd middies look the same it's a problem. They are a very deep team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/22/20 01:19 PM
They seemed to have kept their roster over the years. I've heard of more movement in other years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/22/20 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was responding to the poster who said that Team MD are trophy hunters who play down in weak events. My point was that they went 1-1 in close games with Hawks and MadLax, two extremely strong teams, and therefore should be a strong team too.
What I said was that Team MD as a program "usually" plays down at weaker events. Any program that brags about an "elite" team winning the B division of any tournament by a combined score of 46-6 is definitely trophy hunting. No team playing in a B division should be that out of balance.

What I also said was that 27 team is decent. In fact, they probably border on legit. They will likely compete in at least AA in HoCo next year. And good for them.

But that doesn't change the fact that overall this program trophy hunts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/22/20 07:20 PM
whatever, but I have not seen very many Hoco AA teams who beat Madlax or come within one of Hawks; that's all I'm saying.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/26/20 09:35 PM
Has anyone heard what is going on with BLC? They've been very quiet this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/26/20 11:24 PM
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Has anyone heard what is going on with BLC? They've been very quiet this summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone heard what is going on with BLC? They've been very quiet this summer.

True. I haven’t seen them in any of the tournaments. They did relatively well last summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/27/20 03:22 AM
they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/27/20 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whatever, but I have not seen very many Hoco AA teams who beat Madlax or come within one of Hawks; that's all I'm saying.

And that is all that needs to be said!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/29/20 11:37 AM
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they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing rumors that blue imploded after the coach quit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/29/20 02:28 PM
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they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing rumors that blue imploded after the coach quit.

Ok thanks. They were very good in last year's hoco.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/29/20 03:48 PM
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they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing rumors that blue imploded after the coach quit.

Ok thanks. They were very good in last year's hoco.

So a losing record is very good?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/30/20 12:38 AM
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they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing rumors that blue imploded after the coach quit.

Ok thanks. They were very good in last year's hoco.

So a losing record is very good?

They were not very good in HoCo. The coach's kid left MD and the remaining hub of MD parents now had the ability to speak out against the coach without fear of losing playing time or sucking up to him. They were also bad last summer beating up teams in a B tournament and had losing records for the other tournaments they entered. I think they may have even left a tournament this summer mid games. The team is way too MD centric and maybe now BLC can try and have an honest daddy ball tryout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/30/20 03:34 AM
I thought they played relatively well at NLF last summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/30/20 12:35 PM
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I thought they played relatively well at NLF last summer.

Meh - lost to probably the top 2 orgs on the east coast but got blown out in 2 of the 3. Beat a terrible team and barely beat the other. With a team stacked with well over 50% of the roster having birthdays before 9/1, they should be much better. Maybe the coaching change and a lineup shuffle will help but most likely the MD parents will continue to influence this roster until it goes to DCE and then it will be broken up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/30/20 03:54 PM
Seems like a lot of shuffling between madlax, bethesda and next level. haven't seen much of next level 27 either this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/31/20 01:21 AM
Madlax collects that $$ and plays lots of tournaments and practiced all during the quarantine period. Next Level and BLC had their June and July tournaments either cancel or get postponed. NL is practicing and will end up playing a couple and BLC called it a summer several weeks ago. BLC has deep pockets but seems to be in the most disarray,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/31/20 02:21 PM
Sounds right. That you're guranteed a spot at BLC but it could be blue or orange looked rough. NL or BLC not at summer exposure and then I'd be surprised if BLC is still in the millon invitational. For 27 I don't think we'll see a lot of surprises at summer exposure this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 12:37 AM
NL will be at million though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 12:29 PM
Regarding the typical age argument, my son has been playing up since he started playing. He typically plays mid atlantic circuit. He is a 2028 but plays 2027 A level and I feel like that is the correct level for his team. My question is, how old are these kids typically? This past weekend at summer exposure there appeared to be kids that look like they should be in HS all over the place. We dont see 12 year olds in any sport that requires age verification look like that in Pa, and that is across multiple counties. I don't want to come off like I am complaining but just trying to get a better understanding on how badly the age/grad year system is abused in these tourneys. As far as I know they are allowed to have just turned 12. Is it typical to see 6 foot tall 150-175 kids that are fully developed physically?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 12:34 PM
Regarding the typical age argument, my son has been playing up since he started playing. He typically plays mid atlantic circuit. He is a 2028 but plays 2027 A level and I feel like that is the correct level for his team. My question is, how old are these kids typically? This past weekend at summer exposure there appeared to be kids that look like they should be in HS all over the place. We dont see 12 year olds in any sport that requires age verification look like that in Pa, and that is across multiple counties. I don't want to come off like I am complaining but just trying to get a better understanding on how badly the age/grad year system is abused in these tourneys. As far as I know they are allowed to have just turned 12. Is it typical to see 6 foot tall 150-175 kids that are fully developed physically?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 02:35 PM
Most tournaments have no restriction other then grad year so you could see kids +1,+2 older then a typical rising 6th grader. Many of the private schools push for a pre-1st or double 8th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 03:31 PM
So who is to say they are even in the current grade they are playing at? Is anything verified at all? Sounds like a free for all to me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regarding the typical age argument, my son has been playing up since he started playing. He typically plays mid atlantic circuit. He is a 2028 but plays 2027 A level and I feel like that is the correct level for his team. My question is, how old are these kids typically? This past weekend at summer exposure there appeared to be kids that look like they should be in HS all over the place. We dont see 12 year olds in any sport that requires age verification look like that in Pa, and that is across multiple counties. I don't want to come off like I am complaining but just trying to get a better understanding on how badly the age/grad year system is abused in these tourneys. As far as I know they are allowed to have just turned 12. Is it typical to see 6 foot tall 150-175 kids that are fully developed physically?


2027s should be 10 to start the year in September and 11 by the summer. There should be very few 12 year olds, any 12 year olds in 5th grade have been held back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 04:34 PM
Yes, I'm not sure what made sports like soccer so much stricter on age. US lacrosse doesn't seem to really tackle this issue. Older kids help teams win and that helps teams attract kids. Most parents want their kids at least playing with their own grade. Clubs also seem to want to meet the letter of the law in having kids in their grade groups so it's not called out too bad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regarding the typical age argument, my son has been playing up since he started playing. He typically plays mid atlantic circuit. He is a 2028 but plays 2027 A level and I feel like that is the correct level for his team. My question is, how old are these kids typically? This past weekend at summer exposure there appeared to be kids that look like they should be in HS all over the place. We dont see 12 year olds in any sport that requires age verification look like that in Pa, and that is across multiple counties. I don't want to come off like I am complaining but just trying to get a better understanding on how badly the age/grad year system is abused in these tourneys. As far as I know they are allowed to have just turned 12. Is it typical to see 6 foot tall 150-175 kids that are fully developed physically?


2027s should be 10 to start the year in September and 11 by the summer. There should be very few 12 year olds, any 12 year olds in 5th grade have been held back.

I'd be surprised to learn if there are elite teams that wouldn't accept a kid in his grade regardless of age. They may ask him to play up if capable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 04:57 PM
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they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing rumors that blue imploded after the coach quit.

Ok thanks. They were very good in last year's hoco.

So a losing record is very good?

They were not very good in HoCo. The coach's kid left MD and the remaining hub of MD parents now had the ability to speak out against the coach without fear of losing playing time or sucking up to him. They were also bad last summer beating up teams in a B tournament and had losing records for the other tournaments they entered. I think they may have even left a tournament this summer mid games. The team is way too MD centric and maybe now BLC can try and have an honest daddy ball tryout.

I assume that was Walsh since only Fritiz is listed now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, I'm not sure what made sports like soccer so much stricter on age. US lacrosse doesn't seem to really tackle this issue. Older kids help teams win and that helps teams attract kids. Most parents want their kids at least playing with their own grade. Clubs also seem to want to meet the letter of the law in having kids in their grade groups so it's not called out too bad.
I have never seen proof of grade even addressed at this level. My son is always one of the 2 or 3 biggest players on the field and admittedly looks older than a 2027, but he turned 11 in May and has always been 97th-99th percentile in height and is just developing early. Opposing parents cry non-stop that he "must be 13" claim he is playing down etc. but I have never been asked for proof of him having just finished 5th grade, nor has our coach been asked (outside of the casual...is he really a 2027 question from the other team). We have always carried his birth certificate in case restaurants try and keep him off the kids menu, but not an issue in lax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/03/20 08:04 PM
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Yes, I'm not sure what made sports like soccer so much stricter on age. US lacrosse doesn't seem to really tackle this issue. Older kids help teams win and that helps teams attract kids. Most parents want their kids at least playing with their own grade. Clubs also seem to want to meet the letter of the law in having kids in their grade groups so it's not called out too bad.
I have never seen proof of grade even addressed at this level. My son is always one of the 2 or 3 biggest players on the field and admittedly looks older than a 2027, but he turned 11 in May and has always been 97th-99th percentile in height and is just developing early. Opposing parents cry non-stop that he "must be 13" claim he is playing down etc. but I have never been asked for proof of him having just finished 5th grade, nor has our coach been asked (outside of the casual...is he really a 2027 question from the other team). We have always carried his birth certificate in case restaurants try and keep him off the kids menu, but not an issue in lax.

You are the rarity, most larger than life players are prefirst or holdbacks. It really has gotten out of hand now as the pie is only so big for the many skilled High School players now. Years ago, it was MD up Mass prep schools and Long Island public/caholic schools feeding the college Lacrosse world...No more..way to many players from everywhere, prefirst/reclass/holdback are epidemic now without age gudelines. USL is in Baltimore surrounded by Private schools..They are useless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/04/20 12:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have never seen proof of grade even addressed at this level. My son is always one of the 2 or 3 biggest players on the field and admittedly looks older than a 2027, but he turned 11 in May and has always been 97th-99th percentile in height and is just developing early. Opposing parents cry non-stop that he "must be 13" claim he is playing down etc. but I have never been asked for proof of him having just finished 5th grade, nor has our coach been asked (outside of the casual...is he really a 2027 question from the other team). We have always carried his birth certificate in case restaurants try and keep him off the kids menu, but not an issue in lax.

You are the rarity, most larger than life players are prefirst or holdbacks. It really has gotten out of hand now as the pie is only so big for the many skilled High School players now. Years ago, it was MD up Mass prep schools and Long Island public/caholic schools feeding the college Lacrosse world...No more..way to many players from everywhere, prefirst/reclass/holdback are epidemic now without age gudelines. USL is in Baltimore surrounded by Private schools..They are useless.[/quote]
I understand and agree I am the rarity (Not trying to be a donk, but that’s why I put height percentile). I’d love for lax to be by age as it is the right/fair thing, but it’s not. It hurts my own kid, but given his academic and social standing I’d never stunt his life growth for lax. Plus, if I have that much of an issue I can play him in all the other rational non-school sports that have age cutoffs. I know you’ll say if my kid was small I’d feel different, but I don’t think I would. You deal with what’s in place and don’t cry about what you can’t control. Step up
or give up, your call.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/04/20 11:15 AM
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing

They were not very good in HoCo. The coach's kid left MD and the remaining hub of MD parents now had the ability to speak out against the coach without fear of losing playing time or sucking up to him. They were also bad last summer beating up teams in a B tournament and had losing records for the other tournaments they entered. I think they may have even left a tournament this summer mid games. The team is way too MD centric and maybe now BLC can try and have an honest daddy ball tryout.

I assume that was Walsh since only Fritiz is listed now.

Yes and I think Walsh is trying to move a bunch of kids to ML in exchange for what, I don't know. ML's current 27 coaches are pretty good. Maybe Walsh thinks he can create a new DC Dogs team. BLC 2027 teams should have a whole new look this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/04/20 03:41 PM
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing

They were not very good in HoCo. The coach's kid left MD and the remaining hub of MD parents now had the ability to speak out against the coach without fear of losing playing time or sucking up to him. They were also bad last summer beating up teams in a B tournament and had losing records for the other tournaments they entered. I think they may have even left a tournament this summer mid games. The team is way too MD centric and maybe now BLC can try and have an honest daddy ball tryout.

I assume that was Walsh since only Fritiz is listed now.

Yes and I think Walsh is trying to move a bunch of kids to ML in exchange for what, I don't know. ML's current 27 coaches are pretty good. Maybe Walsh thinks he can create a new DC Dogs team. BLC 2027 teams should have a whole new look this year.

That'll be interesting. I"m not aware of one but it would interesting to see a club that has two elite teams at the same grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/04/20 05:53 PM
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]they're busy reshuffling players into blue and orange groups apparently. Welcome back, you're demoted! It was funny they weren't at NAL (the 27s) and not at summer exposure.

Hearing

They were not very good in HoCo. The coach's kid left MD and the remaining hub of MD parents now had the ability to speak out against the coach without fear of losing playing time or sucking up to him. They were also bad last summer beating up teams in a B tournament and had losing records for the other tournaments they entered. I think they may have even left a tournament this summer mid games. The team is way too MD centric and maybe now BLC can try and have an honest daddy ball tryout.

I assume that was Walsh since only Fritiz is listed now.

Yes and I think Walsh is trying to move a bunch of kids to ML in exchange for what, I don't know. ML's current 27 coaches are pretty good. Maybe Walsh thinks he can create a new DC Dogs team. BLC 2027 teams should have a whole new look this year.

That'll be interesting. I"m not aware of one but it would interesting to see a club that has two elite teams at the same grade.

I wouldn't exactly call the BLC team elite. How is the 2023 DMV MadLax team? They were the Capital team before getting shoved aside. T
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/05/20 02:49 PM
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Yes, I'm not sure what made sports like soccer so much stricter on age. US lacrosse doesn't seem to really tackle this issue. Older kids help teams win and that helps teams attract kids. Most parents want their kids at least playing with their own grade. Clubs also seem to want to meet the letter of the law in having kids in their grade groups so it's not called out too bad.
I have never seen proof of grade even addressed at this level. My son is always one of the 2 or 3 biggest players on the field and admittedly looks older than a 2027, but he turned 11 in May and has always been 97th-99th percentile in height and is just developing early. Opposing parents cry non-stop that he "must be 13" claim he is playing down etc. but I have never been asked for proof of him having just finished 5th grade, nor has our coach been asked (outside of the casual...is he really a 2027 question from the other team). We have always carried his birth certificate in case restaurants try and keep him off the kids menu, but not an issue in lax.
Is he around 5'10" to 6' tall 150-175lbs with defined muscular physique? Seems crazy for 11 to 12 year olds to be fully grown already. Just curious what 99th percentile at that age really is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/24/20 10:55 AM
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I have never seen proof of grade even addressed at this level. My son is always one of the 2 or 3 biggest players on the field and admittedly looks older than a 2027, but he turned 11 in May and has always been 97th-99th percentile in height and is just developing early. Opposing parents cry non-stop that he "must be 13" claim he is playing down etc. but I have never been asked for proof of him having just finished 5th grade, nor has our coach been asked (outside of the casual...is he really a 2027 question from the other team). We have always carried his birth certificate in case restaurants try and keep him off the kids menu, but not an issue in lax.

It's that time of year... a group of kids move up to middle school and they start to deal with the whole "holdback" issue. And people complain that US Lacrosse doesn't do anything about it.

Well, US Lacrosse can't really do anything about it, except at tournaments they sanction. They have put forward recommended age groupings, but unless a tournament follows US Lacrosse's rules and goes through the hoops to get sanctioned, it doesn't really mean anything. Most don't.

The "elite" teams are always (at least around here) going to be filled with holdbacks. But there are plenty of teams that aren't.

If you really care about that sort of thing, play for a team that goes to sanctioned tournaments. I'll warn you though... there aren't that many around here. It's not going to change until teams stop playing in tournaments and leagues where this happens. And guess what? They're not going to stop. Is it cheating? No... it's playing within the rules as set forth by the league or tournament. Is it gaming the system? Maybe, if coaches are recruiting those types of players in order to "look better."
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/13/20 10:13 PM
Does anyone know the scores from today's HoCo games?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/13/20 11:44 PM
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Does anyone know the scores from today's HoCo games?
Some teams won, some teams lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/14/20 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know the scores from today's HoCo games?
Some teams won, some teams lost.
Are they not keeping scores? Is it win/lose?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/06/20 02:37 AM
Anyone doing the metro box league? Hoping it gets enough players and teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/06/20 01:58 PM
Where is the Metro Box League? Link?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/06/20 07:08 PM
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Where is the Metro Box League? Link?
http://www.mabll.com/Default.asp?org=dcbll.mobi

The arrows are one team https://spark.adobe.com/page/wWa73jc5Yc79A/ and another is warthogs https://www.warthogslacrosse.com/ . I think they have some type of partnership going.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/09/20 12:12 AM
Wow, rough day for Crabs and Bethesda blue at Fall Brawl today. Roster changes I assume!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/09/20 09:35 PM
I suspect the Crabs are having problems because they took on about 6-7 Looney's players and have just too many players on the roster to form any kind of cohesion. BLC's A team walked out at the end of the summer and most went to MadLax where they now have a gigantic roster but switch a bunch of kids between A and B depending on tournament and availability.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/29/20 06:52 PM
USCL Rankings coming out this week..

My take on the top 10

1. Madlax(VA)
2. 91 Machine(NY)
3. Next Level(MD)
4. Hawks(MD)
5. TommyKnockers(CO)
6. WCS(CA)
7. Laxachusetts(Mass)
8. Nationals(USA)
9. Sweetlax(FLA)
10. PA Roughriders(PA)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/30/20 08:15 PM
Because there was so little inter-regional play this summer and fall, I would imagine the clubs in your ranking are correct but the regions will be shuffled lower and higher. For example, NL and Hawks will slide lower and TK, WCS and Sweetlax will go higher.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/31/20 05:53 PM
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Because there was so little inter-regional play this summer and fall, I would imagine the clubs in your ranking are correct but the regions will be shuffled lower and higher. For example, NL and Hawks will slide lower and TK, WCS and Sweetlax will go higher.
Why are 91 and Hawks not 1/2? They are easily the best two teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/31/20 08:48 PM
Hawks barely played this summer and fall, lost several kids and lost to Next Level 2x in the same tournament without Next Level's best players. Machine didn't play much either, split with the Hawks last summer and got blown out in the 2nd of those games.
Madlax combined with a pretty good BLC team to form a really good team and beat everyone they played.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/31/20 10:17 PM
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Hawks barely played this summer and fall, lost several kids and lost to Next Level 2x in the same tournament without Next Level's best players. Machine didn't play much either, split with the Hawks last summer and got blown out in the 2nd of those games.
Madlax combined with a pretty good BLC team to form a really good team and beat everyone they played.


Correct
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/02/21 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USCL Rankings coming out this week..

My take on the top 10

1. Madlax(VA)
2. 91 Machine(NY)
3. Next Level(MD)
4. Hawks(MD)
5. TommyKnockers(CO)
6. WCS(CA)
7. Laxachusetts(Mass)
8. Nationals(USA)
9. Sweetlax(FLA)
10. PA Roughriders(PA)

Club nationals are taking place this weekend and Madlax won't be number #1 if they don't win it. So far, Nationals look like they should be at or near the top. Madlax is also losing more of the BLC players and some of last year's roster. It's looking like that move was very short-sighted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/02/21 09:34 PM
Game 1
Nationals LC- 10
West Coast Stars- 2

Game 2
Nationals LC- 12
T91 Nationals- 2

Game 3
Nationals LC- 13
Madlax- 2

Game 4
Nationals- 10
True Nat- 1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/02/21 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
USCL Rankings coming out this week..

My take on the top 10

1. Madlax(VA)
2. 91 Machine(NY)
3. Next Level(MD)
4. Hawks(MD)
5. TommyKnockers(CO)
6. WCS(CA)
7. Laxachusetts(Mass)
8. Nationals(USA)
9. Sweetlax(FLA)
10. PA Roughriders(PA)

Club nationals are taking place this weekend and Madlax won't be number #1 if they don't win it. So far, Nationals look like they should be at or near the top. Madlax is also losing more of the BLC players and some of last year's roster. It's looking like that move was very short-sighted.

Nationals destroyed Madlax today. It was ugly and could have been worse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USCL Rankings coming out this week..

My take on the top 10

1. Madlax(VA)
2. 91 Machine(NY)
3. Next Level(MD)
4. Hawks(MD)
5. TommyKnockers(CO)
6. WCS(CA)
7. Laxachusetts(Mass)
8. Nationals(USA)
9. Sweetlax(FLA)
10. PA Roughriders(PA)

Club nationals are taking place this weekend and Madlax won't be number #1 if they don't win it. So far, Nationals look like they should be at or near the top. Madlax is also losing more of the BLC players and some of last year's roster. It's looking like that move was very short-sighted.

Nationals destroyed Madlax today. It was ugly and could have been worse.

Looks like they destroyed West Coast Starz too
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USCL Rankings coming out this week..

My take on the top 10

1. Madlax(VA)
2. 91 Machine(NY)
3. Next Level(MD)
4. Hawks(MD)
5. TommyKnockers(CO)
6. WCS(CA)
7. Laxachusetts(Mass)
8. Nationals(USA)
9. Sweetlax(FLA)
10. PA Roughriders(PA)

Club nationals are taking place this weekend and Madlax won't be number #1 if they don't win it. So far, Nationals look like they should be at or near the top. Madlax is also losing more of the BLC players and some of last year's roster. It's looking like that move was very short-sighted.

Nationals destroyed Madlax today. It was ugly and could have been worse.

Looks like they destroyed West Coast Starz too

With those kind of scores I have to question if the starters for these teams went.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 05:17 PM
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[/quote]With those kind of scores I have to question if the starters for these teams went.[quote]

Ridiculous. You play against the team that shows up. Madlax brought their best possible DC roster and even posted it on their site. Nationals are a true National team taking the best from teams like the Hawks and other regional teams. I don't know if USCL should rank them against clubs like ML and Hawks but they do.

1. Nationals
2. 91 Machine
3. MadLax
4. Laxachusetts
5. Next Level
6. HawksWCS(CA)
7. West Coast Stz
8. Tommyknockers
9. Sweetlax(FLA)
10. PA Roughriders(PA)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 06:15 PM
Perhaps the other team was just better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 07:59 PM
I don't see where uscl ranks 2027 teams. The rankings on their website seem to stop at 2026. Also, from the looks of tourney machine it appears the "club nationals" in Florida only had 7 teams in it at this age group. Not much to go off of.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 08:58 PM
Nationals is a tournament team only... Not a true club team. ML is the capital team. You don't have Advanced from Northern Cali on your list. Great team with annoying parents. The ML Capital team went like 20-1 in the fall. It is truly a better team with all the BLC players. It will take time for the kids to mesh. Old and new Coaches still learning kids. Kids that might leave bc of playing will not be lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 10:09 PM
What does the number of teams present have to do with it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/03/21 10:58 PM
One of the previous posts implied there was some type of important "Club National" event this weekend. It couldn't be that meaningful with 7 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/04/21 12:55 AM
PA Roughriders combine with Mesa at big tournaments so it depends on what team shows up to how good they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/04/21 01:41 AM
In my opinion National teams should not be in club ranked with the local teams. Those rankings should be for teams made up of kids that are in 100 miles from home club. Love to hear an argument for this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/04/21 02:59 AM
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Nationals is a tournament team only... Not a true club team. ML is the capital team. You don't have Advanced from Northern Cali on your list. Great team with annoying parents. The ML Capital team went like 20-1 in the fall. It is truly a better team with all the BLC players. It will take time for the kids to mesh. Old and new Coaches still learning kids. Kids that might leave bc of playing will not be lost.

Whatever. Sub Advanced for some west coast team then. Or do the same for True Illinois or a Carolina Team. The kids played so little the rankings will be a representation of the major clubs across the country with a little shuffling here and there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 03:17 AM
US Club Lax Rankings hit the street today.

1. Team 91 Machine
2. Eclipse Black
3. MadLax Capital
4. SweetLax NY
5. NextLevel Blue
6. Hawks Green
7. Nationals L.C.
8. Express Haugen
9. Team 91 Rage
10. Aqua Hounds
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 02:26 PM
Nice nod to the NY teams who are part of the USCL web site. I'm not sure why they didn't wait or take into account their own tournament this past weekend. Nationals should be #1 but they are a true national touring team and not a club. Madlax played a ton and only lost 2 games in the fall and winter. We'll see if they keep the roster together come spring and summer. The rest is a scramble and will sort itself out over spring and summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 03:46 PM
It seems pretty clear that Madlax, Next Level, and Hawks are the best three teams in this region. As between the MD/VA teams and the NY teams it’s tough to tell until they play this summer. Because there wasn’t much play between the regions this fall, the RPI style us club rankings don’t work as well to sort between regions. But if more play between different regions is allowed this summer, you’ll see more accurate rankings from the US Club rankings. Small sample size and lack of regional play and not a conspiracy between Team 91 and US Club account for the somewhat random rankings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Lax Rankings hit the street today.

1. Team 91 Machine
2. Eclipse Black
3. MadLax Capital
4. SweetLax NY
5. NextLevel Blue
6. Hawks Green
7. Nationals L.C.
8. Express Haugen
9. Team 91 Rage
10. Aqua Hounds

Nationals rolled over everybody in Florida by big margins, including MadLax twice. Why are they not at or near #1?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 05:30 PM
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It seems pretty clear that Madlax, Next Level, and Hawks are the best three teams in this region. As between the MD/VA teams and the NY teams it’s tough to tell until they play this summer. Because there wasn’t much play between the regions this fall, the RPI style us club rankings don’t work as well to sort between regions. But if more play between different regions is allowed this summer, you’ll see more accurate rankings from the US Club rankings. Small sample size and lack of regional play and not a conspiracy between Team 91 and US Club account for the somewhat random rankings.

Now that Lacrosse has expanded into other areas in area and country. Baltimore teams are becoming irrelevant and slowly moving to bottom of most ranking . Just a matter of time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Lax Rankings hit the street today.

1. Team 91 Machine
2. Eclipse Black
3. MadLax Capital
4. SweetLax NY
5. NextLevel Blue
6. Hawks Green
7. Nationals L.C.
8. Express Haugen
9. Team 91 Rage
10. Aqua Hounds

Nationals rolled over everybody in Florida by big margins, including MadLax twice. Why are they not at or near #1?

this ranking doesn't include this weekend, only the summer/fall- I agree with your assessment though, they are a clear #1 IMO.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 06:18 PM
Same with Long Island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Lax Rankings hit the street today.

1. Team 91 Machine
2. Eclipse Black
3. MadLax Capital
4. SweetLax NY
5. NextLevel Blue
6. Hawks Green
7. Nationals L.C.
8. Express Haugen
9. Team 91 Rage
10. Aqua Hounds

Nationals rolled over everybody in Florida by big margins, including MadLax twice. Why are they not at or near #1?

I think it's fairly questionable if they were playing really strong talent. Some of those players were from teams that did not have a strong fall (FCA MD, Team 91 MD,...) so I would be very surprised if they could win over teams like Hawks Green.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion National teams should not be in club ranked with the local teams. Those rankings should be for teams made up of kids that are in 100 miles from home club. Love to hear an argument for this?

Everyone knows that the Hawks 27 team is the best in our area - if not the country. They beat NL and Madlax repeatedly in the past. Why rankings would be based on Fall is beyond me. The Hawks also destroyed 91 Machine last time they played. If I am not mistaken The Nationals had several (5 or so) Hawks with them last weekend. Pictures on SM verify that fact. I wasn't there, but my guess is that the Hawks had an impact.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 07:30 PM
Most recently, NextLevel beat Hawks twice, and MadLax beat NextLevel twice. All three are good teams, rightfully ranked top six in the nation. You are a bit of a homer of you think "everyone knows" that one of these teams is better than the other two.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion National teams should not be in club ranked with the local teams. Those rankings should be for teams made up of kids that are in 100 miles from home club. Love to hear an argument for this?



I think it's fairly questionable if they were playing really strong talent. Some of those players were from teams that did not have a strong fall (FCA MD, Team 91 MD,...) so I would be very surprised if they could win over teams like Hawks Green.

Everyone knows that the Hawks 27 team is the best in our area - if not the country. They beat NL and Madlax repeatedly in the past. Why rankings would be based on Fall is beyond me. The Hawks also destroyed 91 Machine last time they played. If I am not mistaken The Nationals had several (5 or so) Hawks with them last weekend. Pictures on SM verify that fact. I wasn't there, but my guess is that the Hawks had an impact.

its a ranking based on fall performance, thats it. Its fun for people to speculate, it gives them something to talk about, clearly.

There are 3 hawks on this team(1 F/O, 1 mid, 1 att), they contributed for sure, so did every other player on the squad that came from a different club outside of the Hawks. Believe it or not, there are very good players from other clubs, outside of Annapolis and across the country that can play at an extremely high level. Having seen the Nationals squad in every game this weekend and knowing the ML, NL and Hawks 2027 teams very well, including what what they have gained and lost every year, I am very confident that they would compete and likely beat every single team listed in this "top 20". Those who know, know. Dont discredit them until you have seen them, the outscored ML 20-6 in 2 games and beat WCS 10-2 who dismantled the sweetlax florida team, in their own backyard, 11-1. The squad was rolling and more importantly these kids have alot of fun playing together. They are creating awesome memories and lifelong friendships.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 07:39 PM
Didn't the Hawks lose 2x to NL this fall. And Madlax combined with BLC to form a really strong team. It's amazing what happens as kids grow up; get beyond grade school lacrosse; and rosters change a little. Not only did the Hawks lose 2x but the 3 best players from NL were on the sideline with casts on. I like how you are reaching back to 5th grade for the Hawks last significant win. You also forgot to mention Machine beat the Hawks the tournament prior.

But you are right about the Nationals in that they had the best player from the Hawks and a few more. I don't think the Nationals will be able to maintain such a roster as spring and summer progress unless Larry Hogan keeps sitting on his hands.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion National teams should not be in club ranked with the local teams. Those rankings should be for teams made up of kids that are in 100 miles from home club. Love to hear an argument for this?

Everyone knows that the Hawks 27 team is the best in our area - if not the country. They beat NL and Madlax repeatedly in the past. Why rankings would be based on Fall is beyond me. The Hawks also destroyed 91 Machine last time they played. If I am not mistaken The Nationals had several (5 or so) Hawks with them last weekend. Pictures on SM verify that fact. I wasn't there, but my guess is that the Hawks had an impact.


Hawks lost twice to Next Level this fall. And Next Level lost to Madlax. I think it’s clear those three teams are the best in the region. But it’s not at all clear that Hawks are the best anymore. Luckily it looks like will get games between these teams in the Spring and will have a better sense then.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 08:04 PM
Hawks was a legit team & Team 91 LI was the best team in 2019. 2020 was a poop show.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 08:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion National teams should not be in club ranked with the local teams. Those rankings should be for teams made up of kids that are in 100 miles from home club. Love to hear an argument for this?

Everyone knows that the Hawks 27 team is the best in our area - if not the country. They beat NL and Madlax repeatedly in the past. Why rankings would be based on Fall is beyond me. The Hawks also destroyed 91 Machine last time they played. If I am not mistaken The Nationals had several (5 or so) Hawks with them last weekend. Pictures on SM verify that fact. I wasn't there, but my guess is that the Hawks had an impact.


Hawks lost twice to Next Level this fall. And Next Level lost to Madlax. I think it’s clear those three teams are the best in the region. But it’s not at all clear that Hawks are the best anymore. Luckily it looks like will get games between these teams in the Spring and will have a better sense then.

I obviously struck a nerve with the Hawks haters. My son got cut from the Hawks and yet I still don't understand why everyone hates them so much. My son ended up on a B team and all I ever hear the "elite" team parents talk about is beating them. That is what I base my opinion of them being the best on, along with the games that I watch. Admittedly, I have not seen them (or NL/ML) play in quite some time so maybe NL has come that far. That said, I wouldn't be all that excited about two wins in the fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Most recently, NextLevel beat Hawks twice, and MadLax beat NextLevel twice. All three are good teams, rightfully ranked top six in the nation. You are a bit of a homer of you think "everyone knows" that one of these teams is better than the other two.

And Next Level beat MadLax on ML's home field but NL did lose the last game without NL's 2 best players due to broken bones.

Hawks 27's just didn't play that much in the fall and didn't win when they did.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 09:52 PM
[/quote]

I obviously struck a nerve with the Hawks haters. My son got cut from the Hawks and yet I still don't understand why everyone hates them so much. My son ended up on a B team and all I ever hear the "elite" team parents talk about is beating them. That is what I base my opinion of them being the best on, along with the games that I watch. Admittedly, I have not seen them (or NL/ML) play in quite some time so maybe NL has come that far. That said, I wouldn't be all that excited about two wins in the fall.[/quote]


It's because people like you come on a site after a goofy kid's poll and start talking about something you have no recent knowledge. Your kid got cut so you defend the Hawks. You haven't seen the other teams but based on what Hawks parents say, they are awesome. You have zero basis to even post and then insult those who prove you wrong. Move along.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 09:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks was a legit team & Team 91 LI was the best team in 2019. 2020 was a poop show.

Agree on the poop show. But Hawks were clearly better than 91 in 2019. Not really debatable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/05/21 11:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks was a legit team & Team 91 LI was the best team in 2019. 2020 was a poop show.

Agree on the poop show. But Hawks were clearly better than 91 in 2019. Not really debatable.

Great. In a 5 team poll, it's Nationals (2-0 v ML), Madlax (2-1 v NL), Next Level (2-0 v Hawks), Hawks (1-1 v Machine by a larger goal differential) and Machine. Are you satisfied Hawks kid/Mom?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 12:10 AM
Nationals doesn't count, but the next four look about right. MadLax, NextLevel, and Hawks will have great games in the months and years to come.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 01:11 PM
Nationals do count and their results could change as the spring and summer progresses. They might not have the same level of kids and their results will show. Let's see if Coach G can keep it up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 02:27 PM
What other program is going to let their boys play in a tournament when they have practice and other games....ZERO...mark my work....Nationals are one and done!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 03:17 PM
Everyone with any common sense knows once Spring comes, Hawks will dominate. Not even close. Nationals might give them a run, but that is about it. Talent is talent people.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What other program is going to let their boys play in a tournament when they have practice and other games....ZERO...mark my work....Nationals are one and done!

There are a few "National" teams and "Regional" teams now and more starting up, they all generally compete before or after the regular club season. Trying not to interfere with the kids local team schedules.

They won't be one and done as for some kids it is a way to compete more than what is available in their local area and to be able to compete with a higher level of competition. Not everyone lives in a lax hot bed and the national and regional teams give those kids a chance to play.

With the way lax is growing around the country there will be a market for these teams for some time as different areas slowly build up their local lax communities.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 04:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What other program is going to let their boys play in a tournament when they have practice and other games....ZERO...mark my work....Nationals are one and done!

There are a few "National" teams and "Regional" teams now and more starting up, they all generally compete before or after the regular club season. Trying not to interfere with the kids local team schedules.

They won't be one and done as for some kids it is a way to compete more than what is available in their local area and to be able to compete with a higher level of competition. Not everyone lives in a lax hot bed and the national and regional teams give those kids a chance to play.

With the way lax is growing around the country there will be a market for these teams for some time as different areas slowly build up their local lax communities.

☝🏼Yep, nationals will be just fine.. they work hard to schedule around the conflicts as best they can, they always have. I promise you they will not be one and done. believe me folks, excellent lacrosse exists outside of the DMV and Annapolis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone with any common sense knows once Spring comes, Hawks will dominate. Not even close. Nationals might give them a run, but that is about it. Talent is talent people.
Well, then it appears that I lack common sense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/06/21 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What other program is going to let their boys play in a tournament when they have practice and other games....ZERO...mark my work....Nationals are one and done!

There are a few "National" teams and "Regional" teams now and more starting up, they all generally compete before or after the regular club season. Trying not to interfere with the kids local team schedules.

They won't be one and done as for some kids it is a way to compete more than what is available in their local area and to be able to compete with a higher level of competition. Not everyone lives in a lax hot bed and the national and regional teams give those kids a chance to play.

With the way lax is growing around the country there will be a market for these teams for some time as different areas slowly build up their local lax communities.

☝🏼Yep, nationals will be just fine.. they work hard to schedule around the conflicts as best they can, they always have. I promise you they will not be one and done. believe me folks, excellent lacrosse exists outside of the DMV and Annapolis.
Just curious, what is the story on Nationals? Who runs it, where do they get their players from, when do they practice, etc. Parents I spoke with on the sidelines all seemed to be from Baltimore or Annapolis. Is it mainly a DC/Baltimore/AA all star team with a couple Texas, etc. players sprinkled in, or is it a real national team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 12:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What other program is going to let their boys play in a tournament when they have practice and other games....ZERO...mark my work....Nationals are one and done!

There are a few "National" teams and "Regional" teams now and more starting up, they all generally compete before or after the regular club season. Trying not to interfere with the kids local team schedules.

They won't be one and done as for some kids it is a way to compete more than what is available in their local area and to be able to compete with a higher level of competition. Not everyone lives in a lax hot bed and the national and regional teams give those kids a chance to play.

With the way lax is growing around the country there will be a market for these teams for some time as different areas slowly build up their local lax communities.

☝🏼Yep, nationals will be just fine.. they work hard to schedule around the conflicts as best they can, they always have. I promise you they will not be one and done. believe me folks, excellent lacrosse exists outside of the DMV and Annapolis.
Just curious, what is the story on Nationals? Who runs it, where do they get their players from, when do they practice, etc. Parents I spoke with on the sidelines all seemed to be from Baltimore or Annapolis. Is it mainly a DC/Baltimore/AA all star team with a couple Texas, etc. players sprinkled in, or is it a real national team?

Real National Team. The best players are from TX, PA, and Alabama. Couple of Baltimore guys but the Annapolis guys are just depth added as needed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 02:03 AM
So this is when it all goes down hill apparently - rankings. The fall rankings really shouldn't take up this much space. NL is a great team and yes they beat the Hawks in 2 20 minute running clock games. This is why they are ranked higher. I think all the teams are good teams with kids who hopefully love the sport. Let's not get too excited about it and hope that we have a somewhat normal spring season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 03:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone with any common sense knows once Spring comes, Hawks will dominate. Not even close. Nationals might give them a run, but that is about it. Talent is talent people.
Well, then it appears that I lack common sense.

Shoe Fits perfect !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So this is when it all goes down hill apparently - rankings. The fall rankings really shouldn't take up this much space. NL is a great team and yes they beat the Hawks in 2 20 minute running clock games. This is why they are ranked higher. I think all the teams are good teams with kids who hopefully love the sport. Let's not get too excited about it and hope that we have a somewhat normal spring season.

Correction: 1 regular 40 minute game and 1 game at 20 minutes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 01:45 PM
Who cares. These are 6th graders, get a life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 02:01 PM
Hawks, Madlax, and Next Level are all very good. Who is best will be settled this spring. Question is who is next best in the area. FCA next best? Crabs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 02:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares. These are 6th graders, get a life.

I think the kids who play care and I think you care enough to come on the site and post.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/07/21 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares. These are 6th graders, get a life.

Sorry your son isnt playing on an elite team. Have him Hit The Wall !! always next year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/08/21 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks, Madlax, and Next Level are all very good. Who is best will be settled this spring. Question is who is next best in the area. FCA next best? Crabs?

Crabs had a rough fall. Think there's a lot of changes in their roster. I think it's race to see if BLC, Crabs, TEam 91 and FCA can get up to that level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/08/21 07:42 PM
Nationals are formerly part of The Duke's LC in PA. They are run by Lou G. All you need to know about this guy is he got run out of Philly and Ebe the Duke's owner got an injunction to keep him from using the Duke's name so now its just "Nationals". Go check out the Duke's thread on the PA board or this announcement from Duke's LC: https://www.thedukeslacrosse.com/current-announcements/
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/08/21 09:00 PM
Ha! Now that is an interesting read. Nationals did some shady stuff with their roster in Florida, so I guess that is the type of thing Dukes was talking about.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/08/21 09:43 PM
Team Md
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/08/21 09:57 PM
Team Md should be included in the next best! Played NL very tough this Fall in a scrimmage like 9-6 or something and played the Hawks tough last summer in young guns final. They beat FCA and Team 91 in close games this Fall. They need some depth but have a strong group of core players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/08/21 10:40 PM
Team MD is good but need to at least play in the top division of HoCo. They will also need to play in better tournaments to get anywhere near the top 20. If they do both those things and win they might see enough rpi to get close. Right now, they have the run of any kid who is half decent from Frederick to Hagerstown.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/08/21 11:44 PM
Agree about Team MD deserves to be in the same ballpark as MadLax, NextLevel, and Hawks. I believe that this summer they beat MadLax, or at least played them close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 01:08 AM
They ended up being ranked 16th. I believe they have played in the NAL one of the top tournaments around for last couple years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 01:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha! Now that is an interesting read. Nationals did some shady stuff with their roster in Florida, so I guess that is the type of thing Dukes was talking about.

☝🏼Ha, you know nothing. My son is on this team, you know nothing about them or their roster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 01:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Md should be included in the next best! Played NL very tough this Fall in a scrimmage like 9-6 or something and played the Hawks tough last summer in young guns final. They beat FCA and Team 91 in close games this Fall. They need some depth but have a strong group of core players.

Team MD is definitely on the right path, right now they lack the depth of the top 3 but are surely closing the gap.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 02:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha! Now that is an interesting read. Nationals did some shady stuff with their roster in Florida, so I guess that is the type of thing Dukes was talking about.

☝🏼Ha, you know nothing. My son is on this team, you know nothing about them or their roster.

Everyone in the know, knows what they did..shaky shaky
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They ended up being ranked 16th. I believe they have played in the NAL one of the top tournaments around for last couple years.

Who?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 02:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Md should be included in the next best! Played NL very tough this Fall in a scrimmage like 9-6 or something and played the Hawks tough last summer in young guns final. They beat FCA and Team 91 in close games this Fall. They need some depth but have a strong group of core players.

Team MD is definitely on the right path, right now they lack the depth of the top 3 but are surely closing the gap.

TMD isn't even close yet. They played ML close but ML has combined with BLC's former A team and they aren't the same team. They played NL and it was 11-6 and NL's best players were in casts and NL treated it like a scrimmage. Like someone else said, play in elite MoCo and see how this summer plays out and maybe you'll crack the top 20.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha! Now that is an interesting read. Nationals did some shady stuff with their roster in Florida, so I guess that is the type of thing Dukes was talking about.

☝🏼Ha, you know nothing. My son is on this team, you know nothing about them or their roster.

I do know that in Orlando a boy played on a different team, and then an hour later suited up and played for Nationals. Opposing kids and coaches noticed easily because the player scored multiple goals. It was reported to the organizers and there was discussion about disqualifying both teams.

If you or any Nationals do parents know the circumstances (maybe the player was rostered for Nationals and was "borrowed" by the other team), please go ahead and share.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 04:32 PM
What a devious plot to ascend to the top of a mighty 6th grade money grab event.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Md should be included in the next best! Played NL very tough this Fall in a scrimmage like 9-6 or something and played the Hawks tough last summer in young guns final. They beat FCA and Team 91 in close games this Fall. They need some depth but have a strong group of core players.

Team MD is definitely on the right path, right now they lack the depth of the top 3 but are surely closing the gap.

TMD isn't even close yet. They played ML close but ML has combined with BLC's former A team and they aren't the same team. They played NL and it was 11-6 and NL's best players were in casts and NL treated it like a scrimmage. Like someone else said, play in elite MoCo and see how this summer plays out and maybe you'll crack the top 20.

TMD lost to the New ML 0-9 in the Fall. Looong way to go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 05:40 PM
Bragging about a 6th grade team that got better because they poached another programs players? Congratulations!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a devious plot to ascend to the top of a mighty 6th grade money grab event.

You can laugh it off, but the Nationals parents on the sidelines weren't laughing about spending all that money to be called cheaters. Opposing team parents weren't laughing either.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 06:55 PM
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 08:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 08:52 PM
Funny how madlax parents complaining about double fostering. Madlax has been caught doing it this fall with theirc27's.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bragging about a 6th grade team that got better because they poached another programs players? Congratulations!

I am not sure if poach is the right word. A group of players and a coach were unhappy so they changed programs. Happens all the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/09/21 09:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.

Dude, quit crying already. We beat you fair and square both times- same roster, same kids, same result. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Move on, focus on winning HoCo- you guys have a good squad and are the team to beat right now!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 12:58 AM
Here's your participation trophy, now go hit the wall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.

Why can't they play for two different age groups? This happens ALL the time and is usually addressed in tournament rules (typically the rules state that a player can play in different age groups but not two teams from the same age group). Kids come in from all over the country. Let them play as much as they want - if they can compete at the older age group then good for them. Show me in the rules where it says this cannot be done?
https://cdn3.sportngin.com/attachme...824529216.1610372175-45157976.1610372175
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.

Why can't they play for two different age groups? This happens ALL the time and is usually addressed in tournament rules (typically the rules state that a player can play in different age groups but not two teams from the same age group). Kids come in from all over the country. Let them play as much as they want - if they can compete at the older age group then good for them. Show me in the rules where it says this cannot be done?
https://cdn3.sportngin.com/attachme...824529216.1610372175-45157976.1610372175


If the tourney did not have it stated in their rules, as alot of tournaments do, then that would be why there was a discussion to disqualify both teams but they ended up doing nothing. In that case they played by the rules even if other tournaments would not have allowed it. Next year they may add that to the rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.

Why can't they play for two different age groups? This happens ALL the time and is usually addressed in tournament rules (typically the rules state that a player can play in different age groups but not two teams from the same age group). Kids come in from all over the country. Let them play as much as they want - if they can compete at the older age group then good for them. Show me in the rules where it says this cannot be done?
https://cdn3.sportngin.com/attachme...824529216.1610372175-45157976.1610372175

Madlax doesn't mention the roster rules because they have done it so many times in the past and wanted the option for themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 05:41 PM
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 06:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.

Why can't they play for two different age groups? This happens ALL the time and is usually addressed in tournament rules (typically the rules state that a player can play in different age groups but not two teams from the same age group). Kids come in from all over the country. Let them play as much as they want - if they can compete at the older age group then good for them. Show me in the rules where it says this cannot be done?
https://cdn3.sportngin.com/attachme...824529216.1610372175-45157976.1610372175

Madlax doesn't mention the roster rules because they have done it so many times in the past and wanted the option for themselves.


SE also incorrectly recorded the score of the Nationals-ML prelim game as 12-2, instead of the actual score of 13-2. This kept WCS out of the championship and let ML in on acct of tiebreaker rules(WCS and ML did not play eachother)

had it been scored correctly, WCS would have gotten the nod by 1point- instead it went to a 3rd tie breaker where ML had the advantage.

super suspect.........
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Completely false.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.

Why can't they play for two different age groups? This happens ALL the time and is usually addressed in tournament rules (typically the rules state that a player can play in different age groups but not two teams from the same age group). Kids come in from all over the country. Let them play as much as they want - if they can compete at the older age group then good for them. Show me in the rules where it says this cannot be done?
https://cdn3.sportngin.com/attachme...824529216.1610372175-45157976.1610372175

Madlax doesn't mention the roster rules because they have done it so many times in the past and wanted the option for themselves.


SE also incorrectly recorded the score of the Nationals-ML prelim game as 12-2, instead of the actual score of 13-2. This kept WCS out of the championship and let ML in on acct of tiebreaker rules(WCS and ML did not play eachother)

had it been scored correctly, WCS would have gotten the nod by 1point- instead it went to a 3rd tie breaker where ML had the advantage.

super suspect.........

8 goal max on tiebreaker rule
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 09:37 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight, honestly, and I am not the clown saying "hit the wall, etc". However, I have to ask, are you seriously this worried about a 6th grader playing on multiple teams in a money grab, meaningless event in Florida? Seriously? With all we have going on in this country and you are wound up about the prospects of a family breaking a lacrosse tournament rule. Reviewing videos?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 09:38 PM
And that kid was paul Rabil. He didnt even try to hide it with the full beard and 99.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you still mad about ML being caught cheating at Hershey and Hoco? Too late to do anything now on an anonymous forum from a tournament where the rule is omitted so ML could try again but possibly had it used against them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 10:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Almost every kid on the Nationals has a day job with another team.
Of course they do, but they can't play for two teams in the same event.

Why can't they play for two different age groups? This happens ALL the time and is usually addressed in tournament rules (typically the rules state that a player can play in different age groups but not two teams from the same age group). Kids come in from all over the country. Let them play as much as they want - if they can compete at the older age group then good for them. Show me in the rules where it says this cannot be done?
https://cdn3.sportngin.com/attachme...824529216.1610372175-45157976.1610372175

Madlax doesn't mention the roster rules because they have done it so many times in the past and wanted the option for themselves.


SE also incorrectly recorded the score of the Nationals-ML prelim game as 12-2, instead of the actual score of 13-2. This kept WCS out of the championship and let ML in on acct of tiebreaker rules(WCS and ML did not play eachother)

had it been scored correctly, WCS would have gotten the nod by 1point- instead it went to a 3rd tie breaker where ML had the advantage.

super suspect.........

8 goal max on tiebreaker rule

I’m not talking GD(that was suspiciously capped at 7)- I’m talking GA against common opponents. WCS and ML did not play head to head. If the score had been recorded correctly, WCS, not ML would have played in the championship game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 10:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.


Completely false

That said- if you’d like to see all 5 game tapes from NLV, you will see the same players playing for Nats every, single game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And that kid was paul Rabil. He didnt even try to hide it with the full beard and 99.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you still mad about ML being caught cheating at Hershey and Hoco? Too late to do anything now on an anonymous forum from a tournament where the rule is omitted so ML could try again but possibly had it used against them.

Not mad at all, because I had a son on an opposing team in Hershey and I was happy to see MadLax get caught. You make an excellent observation as to why MadLax maybe was reluctant to DQ the Nationals from the Orlando event. But now everybody knows what Nationals did and hopefully they will refrain from cheating in the future!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't have a dog in this fight, honestly, and I am not the clown saying "hit the wall, etc". However, I have to ask, are you seriously this worried about a 6th grader playing on multiple teams in a money grab, meaningless event in Florida? Seriously? With all we have going on in this country and you are wound up about the prospects of a family breaking a lacrosse tournament rule. Reviewing videos?

LOL I have no dog in the fight either, but most people (including you) do not take a vacation from BOTC due to world events. Actually just the opposite, it is a nice escape. I can assure you that both sides on this debate are very serious. Nobody likes a cheater, and nobody likes to be called one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/11/21 11:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you really crying foul over 1 kid from a team with 1 win in the tournament where 3d scored all of 15 goals in 5 games. Did that kid single handedly beat Madlax by 14 goals over 2 games. If it was anybody else but ML posting this, I'd say it was a total troll but that's why Madlax has the rep. They cheat like crazy all the time and invent reasons when they lose (and lose badly).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/12/21 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And that kid was paul Rabil. He didnt even try to hide it with the full beard and 99.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you still mad about ML being caught cheating at Hershey and Hoco? Too late to do anything now on an anonymous forum from a tournament where the rule is omitted so ML could try again but possibly had it used against them.

Not mad at all, because I had a son on an opposing team in Hershey and I was happy to see MadLax get caught. You make an excellent observation as to why MadLax maybe was reluctant to DQ the Nationals from the Orlando event. But now everybody knows what Nationals did and hopefully they will refrain from cheating in the future!

I’m still confused as to how you think nationals cheated lol. We literally played every minute of every game with our own roster. What am I missing here?

For what’s it’s worth our roster was certified by the tournament partners, all rosters were, before and after.

Sounds like your problem should be with 3D- which you are clearly speculating, for borrowing a player for a game? - I have no clue about that from a nats perspective and you cannot provide a name, number, description, etc of said player to even support your arguement

Again- you don’t know anything about our team, stick to
Your own.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/12/21 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And that kid was paul Rabil. He didnt even try to hide it with the full beard and 99.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you still mad about ML being caught cheating at Hershey and Hoco? Too late to do anything now on an anonymous forum from a tournament where the rule is omitted so ML could try again but possibly had it used against them.

Not mad at all, because I had a son on an opposing team in Hershey and I was happy to see MadLax get caught. You make an excellent observation as to why MadLax maybe was reluctant to DQ the Nationals from the Orlando event. But now everybody knows what Nationals did and hopefully they will refrain from cheating in the future!


So now you're saying you just happened to be in Hershey where Madlax was dq'd; happen to be in Florida where you happen to watch the worst team in the tourney, 3D, where you really scouted their players. Then you stuck around to watch the finals of 2 teams your kid didn't play for and noticed a kid from the the worst team in the tournament dominate. Dig that hole a little deeper Madlax mom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/12/21 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And that kid was paul Rabil. He didnt even try to hide it with the full beard and 99.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you still mad about ML being caught cheating at Hershey and Hoco? Too late to do anything now on an anonymous forum from a tournament where the rule is omitted so ML could try again but possibly had it used against them.

Not mad at all, because I had a son on an opposing team in Hershey and I was happy to see MadLax get caught. You make an excellent observation as to why MadLax maybe was reluctant to DQ the Nationals from the Orlando event. But now everybody knows what Nationals did and hopefully they will refrain from cheating in the future!


So now you're saying you just happened to be in Hershey where Madlax was dq'd; happen to be in Florida where you happen to watch the worst team in the tourney, 3D, where you really scouted their players. Then you stuck around to watch the finals of 2 teams your kid didn't play for and noticed a kid from the the worst team in the tournament dominate. Dig that hole a little deeper Madlax mom.


🔥🔥🔥
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/12/21 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't have a dog in this fight, honestly, and I am not the clown saying "hit the wall, etc". However, I have to ask, are you seriously this worried about a 6th grader playing on multiple teams in a money grab, meaningless event in Florida? Seriously? With all we have going on in this country and you are wound up about the prospects of a family breaking a lacrosse tournament rule. Reviewing videos?

You seem to be concerned more than most...Now " Hit The Wall"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/12/21 01:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And that kid was paul Rabil. He didnt even try to hide it with the full beard and 99. Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you still mad about ML being caught cheating at Hershey and Hoco? Too late to do anything now on an anonymous forum from a tournament where the rule is omitted so ML could try again but possibly had it used against them.

Not mad at all, because I had a son on an opposing team in Hershey and I was happy to see MadLax get caught. You make an excellent observation as to why MadLax maybe was reluctant to DQ the Nationals from the Orlando event. But now everybody knows what Nationals did and hopefully they will refrain from cheating in the future!


So now you're saying you just happened to be in Hershey where Madlax was dq'd; happen to be in Florida where you happen to watch the worst team in the tourney, 3D, where you really scouted their players. Then you stuck around to watch the finals of 2 teams your kid didn't play for and noticed a kid from the the worst team in the tournament dominate. Dig that hole a little deeper Madlax mom.


What is wrong with that?? Guy loves lacrosse , even at the 6th grade level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/12/21 02:35 PM
Review the Abraham Zapruder film.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/12/21 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you really crying foul over 1 kid from a team with 1 win in the tournament where 3d scored all of 15 goals in 5 games. Did that kid single handedly beat Madlax by 14 goals over 2 games. If it was anybody else but ML posting this, I'd say it was a total troll but that's why Madlax has the rep. They cheat like crazy all the time and invent reasons when they lose (and lose badly).

Falsus in uno, falsus in ombnibus.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/14/21 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you really crying foul over 1 kid from a team with 1 win in the tournament where 3d scored all of 15 goals in 5 games. Did that kid single handedly beat Madlax by 14 goals over 2 games. If it was anybody else but ML posting this, I'd say it was a total troll but that's why Madlax has the rep. They cheat like crazy all the time and invent reasons when they lose (and lose badly).

Falsus in uno, falsus in ombnibus.

I honestly can't imagine what the home life of a kid on Nationals must be. T-shirt chasing on steroids in 6th grade? Seriously toxic. Most of these kids are going to be ripping a 6fter (not a lacrosse reference) within two years just to deal with their knucklehead parents. Congrats for finding 12-15 other studs from across the united states who have the same insecurities and forming a team for the weekend with the hope of maybe getting some wins against a real team or more likely piling up huge differentials on regular teams where the kids are probably playing pokeman in between games. Super Job guys. That being said, I'll save you hassle and just tell myself (a) i'm only mad because my kid can't make nationals and (b) i'll take him out back to hit the wall and try again next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/18/21 03:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay Nats parents, here is a chance to clear your name. One boy played for 3D, and then for Nationals, in the same bracket on the same day. It's on game film and nobody from Nats denied it. So which team was he rostered on? If he was rostered on Nats but played for the other team without telling his coaches, then it's difficult to blame the Nats for that. Go ahead and explain the facts. But if you keep misdirecting and name-calling ("hit the wall," "stop crying," "everybody else does it," "you don't know what your taking about") it makes people think that you broke the rules deliberately and have no explanation.

Are you really crying foul over 1 kid from a team with 1 win in the tournament where 3d scored all of 15 goals in 5 games. Did that kid single handedly beat Madlax by 14 goals over 2 games. If it was anybody else but ML posting this, I'd say it was a total troll but that's why Madlax has the rep. They cheat like crazy all the time and invent reasons when they lose (and lose badly).

Falsus in uno, falsus in ombnibus.

I honestly can't imagine what the home life of a kid on Nationals must be. T-shirt chasing on steroids in 6th grade? Seriously toxic. Most of these kids are going to be ripping a 6fter (not a lacrosse reference) within two years just to deal with their knucklehead parents. Congrats for finding 12-15 other studs from across the united states who have the same insecurities and forming a team for the weekend with the hope of maybe getting some wins against a real team or more likely piling up huge differentials on regular teams where the kids are probably playing pokeman in between games. Super Job guys. That being said, I'll save you hassle and just tell myself (a) i'm only mad because my kid can't make nationals and (b) i'll take him out back to hit the wall and try again next year.

Wow ,,For once, a parent gets it right away why he is mad and how to resolve the issues effecting him. Well done, I would add you are jealous and envious too. Keep it real.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/18/21 02:53 PM
I get why a stud player from Colorado, Texas, Alabama would want to be on Nationals. But what does an aggregated team like this accomplish for a kid already in an elite program like Hawks or 91?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/18/21 03:57 PM
This is 6th grade lacrosse. Get a grip.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/18/21 05:18 PM
The father gets to relive his life, you know why.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/18/21 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is 6th grade lacrosse. Get a grip.

Why?? 6th grade is where it starts. Get on elite team. Train with small groups and personal trainers. Your son will be left behind without it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/19/21 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is 6th grade lacrosse. Get a grip.

Why?? 6th grade is where it starts. Get on elite team. Train with small groups and personal trainers. Your son will be left behind without it.

Left behind? as in "no child left behind"? I certainly wouldn't want you behind me, if you catch my drift. You know. But I digress (see what I did there. I am clever)
Are we still talking about Nationals? Because they don't train. It's merely an ego grab for the Mom's and Dad's out there who for some reason need to say little Bobby is on a national lacrosse team. As if that means anything. When PLL teams start having more twitter followers than say WNBA teams, then maybe being on a national lacrosse team will prove to Cindy down the street that Bobby is gonna make something of himself. meanwhile little Bobby just wants to lock his door, block out his jag off parents, surf the dirty sites on the internet and exercise the demons.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/19/21 01:09 PM
For Nationals, buyer Beware. If you want your son to play with Nationals (and he can make the cut), go for it. Just do your research on this organization and it's proprietor before sending over the payment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/19/21 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I get why a stud player from Colorado, Texas, Alabama would want to be on Nationals. But what does an aggregated team like this accomplish for a kid already in an elite program like Hawks or 91?

Maybe the kids just want to play more lacrosse... Why does it have to be more than that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/19/21 02:53 PM
Just some extra off season reps. Okay, got it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/19/21 08:52 PM
with tryouts for nationals being held every month, how does the roster work? Does it just grow larger every month?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/19/21 09:35 PM
They aren't relevant at any other age level, and won't be at the 2027 grade year when things get serious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/19/21 11:56 PM
That’s odd. Why are we talking about them? It’s because they are quickly becoming relevant. Clearly they are ruffling feathers with roster selection.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/20/21 12:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They aren't relevant at any other age level, and won't be at the 2027 grade year when things get serious.

Funny they are talking about Nationals in the Northeast forum too. Yikes. It’s a revolution. Lax ain’t all about Baltimore anymore boys. Texas ain’t all steers and queers anymore baby. We got laxers pumping out of there!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/20/21 02:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They aren't relevant at any other age level, and won't be at the 2027 grade year when things get serious.

Funny they are talking about Nationals in the Northeast forum too. Yikes. It’s a revolution. Lax ain’t all about Baltimore anymore boys. Texas ain’t all steers and queers anymore baby. We got laxers pumping out of there!!!!

Cheaters too!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/20/21 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They aren't relevant at any other age level, and won't be at the 2027 grade year when things get serious.

Funny they are talking about Nationals in the Northeast forum too. Yikes. It’s a revolution. Lax ain’t all about Baltimore anymore boys. Texas ain’t all steers and queers anymore baby. We got laxers pumping out of there!!!!

Its not Baltimore kids that play for the old Duke's Nationals because they all got wise to G's grift. As soon as the Texas families take it in the poop shoot they'll bail to, sending G's pyramid scheme back to obscurity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/21/21 02:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They aren't relevant at any other age level, and won't be at the 2027 grade year when things get serious.

Funny they are talking about Nationals in the Northeast forum too. Yikes. It’s a revolution. Lax ain’t all about Baltimore anymore boys. Texas ain’t all steers and queers anymore baby. We got laxers pumping out of there!!!!

Its not Baltimore kids that play for the old Duke's Nationals because they all got wise to G's grift. As soon as the Texas families take it in the poop shoot they'll bail to, sending G's pyramid scheme back to obscurity.

Pyramid scheme is best description I've heard. Monthly tryouts = monthly infusions of cash to keep G in that Escalade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/21/21 02:40 PM
I don't know who this guy G is, but he is a clever businessman. I now have been exposed to Nationals parents and there is a definite ladder climbing attitude, "my kid is already on the Hawks but I need to pay more so I can say he is even better." So kudo's to G for finding a way to profit from those insecurities. Capitalism at its finest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/21/21 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know who this guy G is, but he is a clever businessman. I now have been exposed to Nationals parents and there is a definite ladder climbing attitude, "my kid is already on the Hawks but I need to pay more so I can say he is even better." So kudo's to G for finding a way to profit from those insecurities. Capitalism at its finest.

Haha! Don't assume they all pay. Like when Duke's was winning games, the best kids play for free while the rostered kids pay into the scheme.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/21/21 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know who this guy G is, but he is a clever businessman. I now have been exposed to Nationals parents and there is a definite ladder climbing attitude, "my kid is already on the Hawks but I need to pay more so I can say he is even better." So kudo's to G for finding a way to profit from those insecurities. Capitalism at its finest.

There was a demand in the marketplace, and G filled it. Totally spot on this being an organization for the ladder climbing parents. I know several who listened to G pitch and saw visions of D1 scholarships flowing their way. Sadly, they were all well aware of the shady side of things, but went along with it anyway. only to have the club be ejected from Dukes...

Just for Fun, here is the interview with dukes regarding what the heck happened. Amazing that this guy can still get parents to sign up with this kind of info out there. But hey, not G's problem.


Q : If this Duke's National's Regional Program was Terminated, can you be more Specific about why and what the Problems were that you Encountered to force this Termination?


A : Where do I start. Let me be brief and just respond to the specifics of so many of your phone calls, emails, Blogs and the many Complaints from Events, Tournaments, Hotels, Many, many Vendors; Facility's, College Coaches, Other Club Coaches and Programs; Duke's Coaches and most Importantly Player's and Parents.
It frankly just became to Difficult to Explain and Navigate thru these Inconsistencies and Complaints that demanded Responsible Replies and Answers to all these Entities.
Additionally, with the Failure to Respond to a Primary Mandate; the lack of Respect for the History of who Duke's Lacrosse Club is and what it Represents just could No longer be Overlooked, Ignored or Compromised .
Bottom line, Our Integrity as a Program was at stake and having to Continuously Field all of these Complaints about a Total lack of Transparency; a Total Lack of Effective Communications; Ongoing Money Issues and so much more that so many of you Commented on simply didnt allow us to Continue with this Duke's National's Program under the Duke's Lacrosse Club's Name.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/22/21 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know who this guy G is, but he is a clever businessman. I now have been exposed to Nationals parents and there is a definite ladder climbing attitude, "my kid is already on the Hawks but I need to pay more so I can say he is even better." So kudo's to G for finding a way to profit from those insecurities. Capitalism at its finest.

Haha! Don't assume they all pay. Like when Duke's was winning games, the best kids play for free while the rostered kids pay into the scheme.

Awesome. My last post must have been censored by the moderator. basically I just copied and pasted Eb Helms Q/A about what happened to the Duke's National team. classic stuff. you guys want to ditch BOTC and head over to Parler? I'm pretty sure this post will not get through the mod anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/22/21 08:51 PM
Maybe you should stop spending so much energy on this club and move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/22/21 11:31 PM
Amen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/24/21 03:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Amen.
Right we can all agree hawks stink
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/25/21 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know who this guy G is, but he is a clever businessman. I now have been exposed to Nationals parents and there is a definite ladder climbing attitude, "my kid is already on the Hawks but I need to pay more so I can say he is even better." So kudo's to G for finding a way to profit from those insecurities. Capitalism at its finest.

Haha! Don't assume they all pay. Like when Duke's was winning games, the best kids play for free while the rostered kids pay into the scheme.

And several of those kids are holdbacks or currently play on 2026 elite teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/25/21 05:21 PM
And, in Florida earlier this month they shared players with another team at the tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/26/21 06:26 PM
Nothing gets the boys buzzing like some Nationals talk! Keep it going. I love the free publicity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/21/21 04:52 PM
Probably 40 players total at the Nationals LC 2027 tryout in Raleigh last weekend. It looks like everyone wants in after that dominating performance at Club Nationals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/21/21 11:42 PM
Sorry that the Hawks or whatever team your son normally plays for is not meeting his/your needs. Best of luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/22/21 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Probably 40 players total at the Nationals LC 2027 tryout in Raleigh last weekend. It looks like everyone wants in after that dominating performance at Club Nationals.

If that team can hold its own against a Madlax Capital, 91 Machine, Hawks, Sweetlax NY,... (using actual 27 players, not using some 26 as they did) then it's something. Otherwise I think you'll find the team will just win against non top level teams and you're paying a lot of money for hype.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/22/21 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Probably 40 players total at the Nationals LC 2027 tryout in Raleigh last weekend. It looks like everyone wants in after that dominating performance at Club Nationals.

If that team can hold its own against a Madlax Capital, 91 Machine, Hawks, Sweetlax NY,... (using actual 27 players, not using some 26 as they did) then it's something. Otherwise I think you'll find the team will just win against non top level teams and you're paying a lot of money for hype.

Big difference playing with a bunch of Carolina regional players and DC/Baltimore players. Nationals will swing up or down depending on where they are traveling to that week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/22/21 04:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Probably 40 players total at the Nationals LC 2027 tryout in Raleigh last weekend. It looks like everyone wants in after that dominating performance at Club Nationals.

If that team can hold its own against a Madlax Capital, 91 Machine, Hawks, Sweetlax NY,... (using actual 27 players, not using some 26 as they did) then it's something. Otherwise I think you'll find the team will just win against non top level teams and you're paying a lot of money for hype.

If you think that there weren't any 26 players on that Nationals team, then you're a special kind of ignorant.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 12:26 AM
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry that the Hawks or whatever team your son normally plays for is not meeting his/your needs. Best of luck!

Why does everyone always drag the Hawks into these things? Good luck to Nationals.
Real Hawks Dad - not some Troll. Relax Nationals parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 12:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry that the Hawks or whatever team your son normally plays for is not meeting his/your needs. Best of luck!

Why does everyone always drag the Hawks into these things? Good luck to Nationals.
Real Hawks Dad - not some Troll. Relax Nationals parents.

Why? Because the Nationals parent who does the most talking on the sidelines is a Hawks parent in his spare time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 03:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Team MD up, BLC blue down
HoCo up, Team 91 down
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry that the Hawks or whatever team your son normally plays for is not meeting his/your needs. Best of luck!

Why does everyone always drag the Hawks into these things? Good luck to Nationals.
Real Hawks Dad - not some Troll. Relax Nationals parents.

Why? Because the Nationals parent who does the most talking on the sidelines is a Hawks parent in his spare time.

You are clueless. Although all Hawks dads are loud-mouths so you could be referring to just about anyone. There are no Hawks that play Nationals. We had 2 come by for a guest appearance but they arent with us. You will see the real Nationals this summer. I honestly didnt even notice them when they did play with us.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry that the Hawks or whatever team your son normally plays for is not meeting his/your needs. Best of luck!

Why does everyone always drag the Hawks into these things? Good luck to Nationals.
Real Hawks Dad - not some Troll. Relax Nationals parents.

The Hawks have become the Crabs of old. Everyone is envious of their record.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Team MD up, BLC blue down
HoCo up, Team 91 down

for real? where did you see that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Based on where teams played in 2019 Spring season, head-to-head wins in the Fall 2020 tournaments, and USCL Fall 2020 rankings this is one possibility. Note that * = programs are not confirmed with 2027 team. Additional criteria was to make even number teams in each division, and of course applying the WAG principle.

2027 Elite
#3 Madlax Capital - H2H wins vs Next Level Blue, Team MD White, 91 MD, Crabs
#5 Next Level Blue - H2H wins vs Hawks, True Annapolis Green, Kooper's, Mesa MD, Crabs
#6 Annapolis Hawks - H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Crabs, Sidewinders
#15 Team Maryland White - H2H wins vs Mesa MD, Bethesda Blue, True Annapolis Green, FCA, 91 MD
#37 FCA
#34 Team 91 MD
#48 True Annapolis Green
- H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Mesa MD, Kooper's

2027 AAA
#36 Crabs
#42 Bethesda Blue
- H2H win vs Mesa MD
#28 Zingos Black
#31 Sidewinders Black
- H2H win vs Crabs
#39 Cavalier - H2H win vs Mesa MD
#43 Mesa MD - H2H win vs Bethesda Blue, Kooper's
#59 VLC - H2H win vs MDX-R
#81 Kooper's

2027 AA
*HLC
PLC
Fallston
Cannons Select
Kelly Post
True Baltimore
Madlax- DMV
#51 Team Maryland Red


2027 A

*Top Caliber
Bethesda Orange
Breakers
HoCo Black
True Annapolis White
*Coppermine
Looney's
*Gator Lacrosse Club


2027B

East Side
Zingos Blue
Baltimore Swarm
Rockfish Purple
*USS Cruisers
*AYLC
*LTRC
*MDX-R



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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Based on where teams played in 2019 Spring season, head-to-head wins in the Fall 2020 tournaments, and USCL Fall 2020 rankings this is one possibility. Note that * = programs are not confirmed with 2027 team. Additional criteria was to make even number teams in each division, and of course applying the WAG principle.

2027 Elite
#3 Madlax Capital - H2H wins vs Next Level Blue, Team MD White, 91 MD, Crabs
#5 Next Level Blue - H2H wins vs Hawks, True Annapolis Green, Kooper's, Mesa MD, Crabs
#6 Annapolis Hawks - H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Crabs, Sidewinders
#15 Team Maryland White - H2H wins vs Mesa MD, Bethesda Blue, True Annapolis Green, FCA, 91 MD
#37 FCA
#34 Team 91 MD
#48 True Annapolis Green
- H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Mesa MD, Kooper's

2027 AAA
#36 Crabs
#42 Bethesda Blue
- H2H win vs Mesa MD
#28 Zingos Black
#31 Sidewinders Black
- H2H win vs Crabs
#39 Cavalier - H2H win vs Mesa MD
#43 Mesa MD - H2H win vs Bethesda Blue, Kooper's
#59 VLC - H2H win vs MDX-R
#81 Kooper's

2027 AA
*HLC
PLC
Fallston
Cannons Select
Kelly Post
True Baltimore
Madlax- DMV
#51 Team Maryland Red


2027 A

*Top Caliber
Bethesda Orange
Breakers
HoCo Black
True Annapolis White
*Coppermine
Looney's
*Gator Lacrosse Club


2027B

East Side
Zingos Blue
Baltimore Swarm
Rockfish Purple
*USS Cruisers
*AYLC
*LTRC
*MDX-R



[/u][u][/u][u][u][/u]


Nice work. Speculative but informed. No mentions of hold backs, daddy ball, hitting the wall, etc. Didn't misspell the word "lose" as "loose". Didn't randomly Capitalize words and/or for some reason use an apostrophe to pluralize some word's while leaving others without. Did you get lost on your way to another more intelligent message board?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry that the Hawks or whatever team your son normally plays for is not meeting his/your needs. Best of luck!

Why does everyone always drag the Hawks into these things? Good luck to Nationals.
Real Hawks Dad - not some Troll. Relax Nationals parents.

Why? Because the Nationals parent who does the most talking on the sidelines is a Hawks parent in his spare time.

You are clueless. Although all Hawks dads are loud-mouths so you could be referring to just about anyone. There are no Hawks that play Nationals. We had 2 come by for a guest appearance but they arent with us. You will see the real Nationals this summer. I honestly didnt even notice them when they did play with us.

I am glad that you didn't notice the Hawks dad referenced in the earlier post, but trust me, others did.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Based on where teams played in 2019 Spring season, head-to-head wins in the Fall 2020 tournaments, and USCL Fall 2020 rankings this is one possibility. Note that * = programs are not confirmed with 2027 team. Additional criteria was to make even number teams in each division, and of course applying the WAG principle.

2027 Elite
#3 Madlax Capital - H2H wins vs Next Level Blue, Team MD White, 91 MD, Crabs
#5 Next Level Blue - H2H wins vs Hawks, True Annapolis Green, Kooper's, Mesa MD, Crabs
#6 Annapolis Hawks - H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Crabs, Sidewinders
#15 Team Maryland White - H2H wins vs Mesa MD, Bethesda Blue, True Annapolis Green, FCA, 91 MD
#37 FCA
#34 Team 91 MD
#48 True Annapolis Green
- H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Mesa MD, Kooper's

2027 AAA
#36 Crabs
#42 Bethesda Blue
- H2H win vs Mesa MD
#28 Zingos Black
#31 Sidewinders Black
- H2H win vs Crabs
#39 Cavalier - H2H win vs Mesa MD
#43 Mesa MD - H2H win vs Bethesda Blue, Kooper's
#59 VLC - H2H win vs MDX-R
#81 Kooper's

2027 AA
*HLC
PLC
Fallston
Cannons Select
Kelly Post
True Baltimore
Madlax- DMV
#51 Team Maryland Red


2027 A

*Top Caliber
Bethesda Orange
Breakers
HoCo Black
True Annapolis White
*Coppermine
Looney's
*Gator Lacrosse Club


2027B

East Side
Zingos Blue
Baltimore Swarm
Rockfish Purple
*USS Cruisers
*AYLC
*LTRC
*MDX-R



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No chance Crabs slide down.
Team 91 hasn't won a game in Hoco in 2, maybe 3, years.
BLC blue and orange might request to go another division down. They are really struggling.
Madlax DMV will slide lower
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 10:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Based on where teams played in 2019 Spring season, head-to-head wins in the Fall 2020 tournaments, and USCL Fall 2020 rankings this is one possibility. Note that * = programs are not confirmed with 2027 team. Additional criteria was to make even number teams in each division, and of course applying the WAG principle.

2027 Elite
#3 Madlax Capital - H2H wins vs Next Level Blue, Team MD White, 91 MD, Crabs
#5 Next Level Blue - H2H wins vs Hawks, True Annapolis Green, Kooper's, Mesa MD, Crabs
#6 Annapolis Hawks - H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Crabs, Sidewinders
#15 Team Maryland White - H2H wins vs Mesa MD, Bethesda Blue, True Annapolis Green, FCA, 91 MD
#37 FCA
#34 Team 91 MD
#48 True Annapolis Green
- H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Mesa MD, Kooper's

2027 AAA
#36 Crabs
#42 Bethesda Blue
- H2H win vs Mesa MD
#28 Zingos Black
#31 Sidewinders Black
- H2H win vs Crabs
#39 Cavalier - H2H win vs Mesa MD
#43 Mesa MD - H2H win vs Bethesda Blue, Kooper's
#59 VLC - H2H win vs MDX-R
#81 Kooper's

2027 AA
*HLC
PLC
Fallston
Cannons Select
Kelly Post
True Baltimore
Madlax- DMV
#51 Team Maryland Red


2027 A

*Top Caliber
Bethesda Orange
Breakers
HoCo Black
True Annapolis White
*Coppermine
Looney's
*Gator Lacrosse Club


2027B

East Side
Zingos Blue
Baltimore Swarm
Rockfish Purple
*USS Cruisers
*AYLC
*LTRC
*MDX-R



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pretty good attempt- I cannot speak intelligently on the lower divisions but heres my take on Elite/AAA


Elite
hawks
NL
ML
FCA
TMD
T91
Crabs
Sidewinders

AAA
true annapolis
looneys
zingos
cavalier
VLC
kelly post
mesa
bethesda blue
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 10:58 PM
When is the last time Hawks beat or played close to a projected elite team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/23/21 11:36 PM
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No chance Crabs slide down.
Team 91 hasn't won a game in Hoco in 2, maybe 3, years.
BLC blue and orange might request to go another division down. They are really struggling.
Madlax DMV will slide lower[/quote]

I forgot Madlax DMV has more than 10 of the Bethesda Blue team. They won't slide unless those families have run back across the river.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/24/21 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Based on where teams played in 2019 Spring season, head-to-head wins in the Fall 2020 tournaments, and USCL Fall 2020 rankings this is one possibility. Note that * = programs are not confirmed with 2027 team. Additional criteria was to make even number teams in each division, and of course applying the WAG principle.

2027 Elite
#3 Madlax Capital - H2H wins vs Next Level Blue, Team MD White, 91 MD, Crabs
#5 Next Level Blue - H2H wins vs Hawks, True Annapolis Green, Kooper's, Mesa MD, Crabs
#6 Annapolis Hawks - H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Crabs, Sidewinders
#15 Team Maryland White - H2H wins vs Mesa MD, Bethesda Blue, True Annapolis Green, FCA, 91 MD
#37 FCA
#34 Team 91 MD
#48 True Annapolis Green
- H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Mesa MD, Kooper's

2027 AAA
#36 Crabs
#42 Bethesda Blue
- H2H win vs Mesa MD
#28 Zingos Black
#31 Sidewinders Black
- H2H win vs Crabs
#39 Cavalier - H2H win vs Mesa MD
#43 Mesa MD - H2H win vs Bethesda Blue, Kooper's
#59 VLC - H2H win vs MDX-R
#81 Kooper's

2027 AA
*HLC
PLC
Fallston
Cannons Select
Kelly Post
True Baltimore
Madlax- DMV
#51 Team Maryland Red


2027 A

*Top Caliber
Bethesda Orange
Breakers
HoCo Black
True Annapolis White
*Coppermine
Looney's
*Gator Lacrosse Club


2027B

East Side
Zingos Blue
Baltimore Swarm
Rockfish Purple
*USS Cruisers
*AYLC
*LTRC
*MDX-R



[/u][u][/u][u][u][/u]

No chance Crabs slide down.
Team 91 hasn't won a game in Hoco in 2, maybe 3, years.
BLC blue and orange might request to go another division down. They are really struggling.
Madlax DMV will slide lower

Crabs will not be in Elite. They did not have a great summer and were 0-fer in the fall, including losses to Sidewinders and Richmond Hawks. 91 has beat (in some cases handily) or tied everyone they've played in AAA since the summer. BLC teams and Madlax DMV could move down. Lower divisions are a WAG at this point without knowing which programs are actually fielding teams at this grad year. Hearing that some programs may be opting out of a spring season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/24/21 03:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry that the Hawks or whatever team your son normally plays for is not meeting his/your needs. Best of luck!

Why does everyone always drag the Hawks into these things? Good luck to Nationals.
Real Hawks Dad - not some Troll. Relax Nationals parents.

Why? Because the Nationals parent who does the most talking on the sidelines is a Hawks parent in his spare time.

You are clueless. Although all Hawks dads are loud-mouths so you could be referring to just about anyone. There are no Hawks that play Nationals. We had 2 come by for a guest appearance but they arent with us. You will see the real Nationals this summer. I honestly didnt even notice them when they did play with us.

I am glad that you didn't notice the Hawks dad referenced in the earlier post, but trust me, others did.

Lol. I meant I didnt notice the players on the field. Definitely didnt notice the dads but if they were as described thats a good thing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/24/21 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Based on where teams played in 2019 Spring season, head-to-head wins in the Fall 2020 tournaments, and USCL Fall 2020 rankings this is one possibility. Note that * = programs are not confirmed with 2027 team. Additional criteria was to make even number teams in each division, and of course applying the WAG principle.

2027 Elite
#3 Madlax Capital - H2H wins vs Next Level Blue, Team MD White, 91 MD, Crabs
#5 Next Level Blue - H2H wins vs Hawks, True Annapolis Green, Kooper's, Mesa MD, Crabs
#6 Annapolis Hawks - H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Crabs, Sidewinders
#15 Team Maryland White - H2H wins vs Mesa MD, Bethesda Blue, True Annapolis Green, FCA, 91 MD
#37 FCA
#34 Team 91 MD
#48 True Annapolis Green
- H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Mesa MD, Kooper's

2027 AAA
#36 Crabs
#42 Bethesda Blue
- H2H win vs Mesa MD
#28 Zingos Black
#31 Sidewinders Black
- H2H win vs Crabs
#39 Cavalier - H2H win vs Mesa MD
#43 Mesa MD - H2H win vs Bethesda Blue, Kooper's
#59 VLC - H2H win vs MDX-R
#81 Kooper's

2027 AA
*HLC
PLC
Fallston
Cannons Select
Kelly Post
True Baltimore
Madlax- DMV
#51 Team Maryland Red


2027 A

*Top Caliber
Bethesda Orange
Breakers
HoCo Black
True Annapolis White
*Coppermine
Looney's
*Gator Lacrosse Club


2027B

East Side
Zingos Blue
Baltimore Swarm
Rockfish Purple
*USS Cruisers
*AYLC
*LTRC
*MDX-R



[/u][u][/u][u][u][/u]

No chance Crabs slide down.
Team 91 hasn't won a game in Hoco in 2, maybe 3, years.
BLC blue and orange might request to go another division down. They are really struggling.
Madlax DMV will slide lower

Crabs will not be in Elite. They did not have a great summer and were 0-fer in the fall, including losses to Sidewinders and Richmond Hawks. 91 has beat (in some cases handily) or tied everyone they've played in AAA since the summer. BLC teams and Madlax DMV could move down. Lower divisions are a WAG at this point without knowing which programs are actually fielding teams at this grad year. Hearing that some programs may be opting out of a spring season.

Based on HCRP Online Registration (which closed on 15 Feb) here's how many team registered for each division. Likely to be movement since its a 7 game regular season and HoCo likes for teams to have one game vs all others in division, so that would mean 8 team divisions. Given there are 39 teams registered, one division would have 7 teams.

2027 Elite - 11
2027 AAA - 5
2027 AA - 7
2027 A - 5
2027 B - 11
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/24/21 08:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have any info on what the HoCo 2027 divisions will look like?

Based on where teams played in 2019 Spring season, head-to-head wins in the Fall 2020 tournaments, and USCL Fall 2020 rankings this is one possibility. Note that * = programs are not confirmed with 2027 team. Additional criteria was to make even number teams in each division, and of course applying the WAG principle.

2027 Elite
#3 Madlax Capital - H2H wins vs Next Level Blue, Team MD White, 91 MD, Crabs
#5 Next Level Blue - H2H wins vs Hawks, True Annapolis Green, Kooper's, Mesa MD, Crabs
#6 Annapolis Hawks - H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Crabs, Sidewinders
#15 Team Maryland White - H2H wins vs Mesa MD, Bethesda Blue, True Annapolis Green, FCA, 91 MD
#37 FCA
#34 Team 91 MD
#48 True Annapolis Green
- H2H wins vs Bethesda Blue, Mesa MD, Kooper's

2027 AAA
#36 Crabs
#42 Bethesda Blue
- H2H win vs Mesa MD
#28 Zingos Black
#31 Sidewinders Black
- H2H win vs Crabs
#39 Cavalier - H2H win vs Mesa MD
#43 Mesa MD - H2H win vs Bethesda Blue, Kooper's
#59 VLC - H2H win vs MDX-R
#81 Kooper's

2027 AA
*HLC
PLC
Fallston
Cannons Select
Kelly Post
True Baltimore
Madlax- DMV
#51 Team Maryland Red


2027 A

*Top Caliber
Bethesda Orange
Breakers
HoCo Black
True Annapolis White
*Coppermine
Looney's
*Gator Lacrosse Club


2027B

East Side
Zingos Blue
Baltimore Swarm
Rockfish Purple
*USS Cruisers
*AYLC
*LTRC
*MDX-R



[/u][u][/u][u][u][/u]

No chance Crabs slide down.
Team 91 hasn't won a game in Hoco in 2, maybe 3, years.
BLC blue and orange might request to go another division down. They are really struggling.
Madlax DMV will slide lower

Crabs will not be in Elite. They did not have a great summer and were 0-fer in the fall, including losses to Sidewinders and Richmond Hawks. 91 has beat (in some cases handily) or tied everyone they've played in AAA since the summer. BLC teams and Madlax DMV could move down. Lower divisions are a WAG at this point without knowing which programs are actually fielding teams at this grad year. Hearing that some programs may be opting out of a spring season.

Based on HCRP Online Registration (which closed on 15 Feb) here's how many team registered for each division. Likely to be movement since its a 7 game regular season and HoCo likes for teams to have one game vs all others in division, so that would mean 8 team divisions. Given there are 39 teams registered, one division would have 7 teams.

2027 Elite - 11
2027 AAA - 5
2027 AA - 7
2027 A - 5
2027 B - 11

91 only played one year of Hoco which was two years ago since everyone missed last year. They did not play in the fall hoco. Hawks has had some roster changes and I don't know how they did in tournaments so will be interesting to see their play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/25/21 02:02 AM
What happened with Hoco pink?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/25/21 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened with Hoco pink?
Hoco played their Pink teams in B in the fall except for 2024. 2027 played as Black. A lot of turnover
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/25/21 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened with Hoco pink?

They were doing well last year and just called it quits. Sounded like a coaching thing but can't really say.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/25/21 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened with Hoco pink?

players went to FCA, Crabs, 91 and Zingos
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/25/21 06:21 PM
Sinc
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened with Hoco pink?
Hoco played their Pink teams in B in the fall except for 2024. 2027 played as Black. A lot of turnover

Since there was only A and B divisions in the Fall, it is not really a true statement. Most of the A teams in the A divisions were actually Elite and AAA teams. A number of the teams in the B divisions were actually AA and A teams. The B divisions did not have all B teams, although there were some B teams playing and they were getting smoked.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/25/21 10:07 PM
Didn't HoCo black play this summer? I thought they were very competitive. Did all of HLC break up or just that class?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/26/21 01:03 AM
Didn't break up but not looking good. One team at the 27 level with 17 players and the web site is about 6 months outdated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/26/21 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't break up but not looking good. One team at the 27 level with 17 players and the web site is about 6 months outdated.

I don't think there are any rec team select that make it to elite status at the 6-8 grade level in this area. Just the nature of the sport right now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/26/21 05:51 PM
Team Md got a few HoCo pink players as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/26/21 07:42 PM
hoco pink 2027 implosion is strange, they had 6 or 7 dad coaches. They all decided to just quit and do their own thing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/26/21 09:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hoco pink 2027 implosion is strange, they had 6 or 7 dad coaches. They all decided to just quit and do their own thing?

My kids team played them on few occasions last summer. During the last two games, the guy who had been the head coach earlier in the summer was watching the game with the parents. Talked to one dad coach who had already made up his mind to take his kid to Team MD. Gut tells me the dad coaches are the ones that killed that team, which is interesting because I've never heard of dads destroying youth sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/27/21 02:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hoco pink 2027 implosion is strange, they had 6 or 7 dad coaches. They all decided to just quit and do their own thing?

My kids team played them on few occasions last summer. During the last two games, the guy who had been the head coach earlier in the summer was watching the game with the parents. Talked to one dad coach who had already made up his mind to take his kid to Team MD. Gut tells me the dad coaches are the ones that killed that team, which is interesting because I've never heard of dads destroying youth sports.
Let's move on
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/27/21 03:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hoco pink 2027 implosion is strange, they had 6 or 7 dad coaches. They all decided to just quit and do their own thing?

My kids team played them on few occasions last summer. During the last two games, the guy who had been the head coach earlier in the summer was watching the game with the parents. Talked to one dad coach who had already made up his mind to take his kid to Team MD. Gut tells me the dad coaches are the ones that killed that team, which is interesting because I've never heard of dads destroying youth sports.

That is highly unusual, what next bears and monkeys playing together
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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/27/21 03:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hoco pink 2027 implosion is strange, they had 6 or 7 dad coaches. They all decided to just quit and do their own thing?

My kids team played them on few occasions last summer. During the last two games, the guy who had been the head coach earlier in the summer was watching the game with the parents. Talked to one dad coach who had already made up his mind to take his kid to Team MD. Gut tells me the dad coaches are the ones that killed that team, which is interesting because I've never heard of dads destroying youth sports.

It is ironic that the home of the nationally known hoco lax league (mentioned on md vs penn state game tonight!) fails to have an elite team itself. I think it shows that having a strong club leadership and good individual coaches works. I have yet to see a rec select club that is more than individual coaches per team.
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Саме так. Це історія кохання.

І, варто відзначити, що після перегляду фільму, багато хто захоче повторити ці образи. "Диво-жінка 1984": дивіться трейлер до фільму2020 вирішила інтригувати фанатів "Диво-жінки" ще рік і перенесла прем'єру другої частини фільму з листопада 2019 на червень 2020 року. І мені сподобалося, що це було водночас практично й зроблено під впливом високої моди й прекрасного дизайну. За словами Дженкінс вони прийняли таке рішення для безпеки, бажаючих познайомитися з роботою. У рамках промо-кампанії виконавиця головної ролі Галь Гадот вже дає численні інтерв'ю, які часом не проходять без конфузів. Незабаром в їх руки потрапляє таємничий артефакт, який виконує будь-яке бажання. А ще, знаєте, Спілберга, HBO, все це. Головна героїня, відчайдушна амазонка Діана, працює археологом у Смітсонівському інституті й підробляє на пів ставки рятівницею світу і захисницею всіх принижених та ображених. Хоча багато хто віддав вирішили подивитися “Диво-жінку 1984” не виходячи їх вдома, фільм за перший тиждень кінотеатрального прокату зібрав в США 16,7 мільйона доларів, що стало рекордом на сьогодні в умовах епідемії коронавірусу.

Головні герої фільму "Диво-жінка 1984" / Фото Warner Bros. Дружина Марстона, Елізабет, та їх супутниця життя Олів Бірн вважаються його натхненням для появи персонажа. У мережі з'явився трейлер сиквелу коміксів DC про Диво-жінку. Події «Диво-Жінки: 1984» розгортаються вже в другій половині XX століття, де легендарній войовниці доведеться битися з телепатом-мільярдером Максвеллом Лордом, який має намір позбавити світ від супергероїв. Режисером стала Патті Дженкінс, а Гадот виконала головну роль у фільмі. Це дуже полегшувало мою роботу.

Особливість другої частини «Диво-жінки» в тому, що всі бойові сцени не намальовано за допомогою комп’ютерної графіки, а знято на реальних локаціях з участю акторів і каскадерів. Стрічка розповідає про студентку-медика Карлу, яка мала непросте дитинство з братом Блейком. Сюрпризом для шанувальників фільму стане поява нового персонажа - бізнесмена Максвелла Лорда, якого зіграв Педро Паскаль. У Warner Bros. Відділ костюмів фільму, яким керувала Лінді Геммінґ, підготував одяг для близько 1100 акторів масовки під час зйомок у Вашингтоні, 1350 – у Великобританії та 400 – в Іспанії. Просто уявите собі цю воістину "диво-жінку", яка перед тим, як врятувати все живе на нашій планеті, у шовковій піжамі лягає спати при повному параді. Хто така Диво-жінка? Це самий початок дорослішання, наповнений бейсболом, фільмами, які дивились з сестрою, Duran Duran у машині та спробою побачити U2 на концерті у Forum. Але якби вона тільки знала, що за допомогою цього проклятого артефакту може накоїти бізнесмен-телепат Максвел Лорд (Педро Паскаль) і кровожерна жінка-кішка Гепарда (Крістен Віг).

Справедливості заради відзначимо , що дивитися на цього персонажа після перетворення приємно . Вона сильна , вольова , харизматична , розумна - і Крістен Уіг зображати таку героїню куди зручніше , ніж лузершу - недотепа . На Діану ж у виконанні Галь Гадот дивитися завжди приємно , а її біле плаття - краще , що є в цьому фільмі . Але у Діани тут немає практично ніякої арки , героїня не змінюється . Знай вона спочатку , що перед нею діючий виконавець бажань , вона б не за що їм не скористалася . Кінотеатри на початку 2021 роки знову запрошують нас зануритися в світ кіно . Стрімінговие сервіси як і раніше випускають багато гідного контенту . Як завжди , давайте розберемося у всьому по порядку . Попереду - січень .

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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/27/21 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hoco pink 2027 implosion is strange, they had 6 or 7 dad coaches. They all decided to just quit and do their own thing?

My kids team played them on few occasions last summer. During the last two games, the guy who had been the head coach earlier in the summer was watching the game with the parents. Talked to one dad coach who had already made up his mind to take his kid to Team MD. Gut tells me the dad coaches are the ones that killed that team, which is interesting because I've never heard of dads destroying youth sports.

It is ironic that the home of the nationally known hoco lax league (mentioned on md vs penn state game tonight!) fails to have an elite team itself. I think it shows that having a strong club leadership and good individual coaches works. I have yet to see a rec select club that is more than individual coaches per team.
We left after a 3 years on an older Pink team. the Black teams are a gamble as far as the coaching. Nothing wrong with a dad coach, but sometimes you get a rec dad coach who can be flattered into favoring certain families. some of the Pink coaches are dad coaches, but they aren't rec minded. We enjoyed our time there, but the coaches had to deal with the club board, and from what I saw or heard about the politics is on another level which is a shame because there are some really competitive teams there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/01/21 05:00 PM
Does anyone have the HoCo League Division breakdown by team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/02/21 12:59 AM
It's not created yet. Team are just registering
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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/07/21 03:26 PM
How did the 2027 teams fair in Delaware yesterday?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/08/21 01:05 AM
Scores from the 3 games the Hawks played Sat in DE?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/08/21 02:24 AM
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Scores from the 3 games the Hawks played Sat in DE?

Beat Express 7-6, great game!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/08/21 03:38 AM
Everybody played hard and did their best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/08/21 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Scores from the 3 games the Hawks played Sat in DE?

Beat Express 7-6, great game!

Thanks for sharing score. What tournament was that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/08/21 04:30 PM
It wasn’t a tournament. It was a play day and it wasn’t on tourney machine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 04:50 PM
2027 initial alignment

Elite
Crabs
Next Level
Team 91
Annapolis Hawks
FCA
Mesa MD
Madlax Capital
Team MD LC White

AAA
VLC
Zingos Black
Sidewinders
Looney's
True KP
Koopers
Eastside Lax
Bethesda Blue

AA
Madlax DMV
True Baltimore
True Annapolis Green
Cavalier
Team MD LC Red
Gator Lacrosse Club
Bethesda Orange
Rockfish Purple

A
True Annapolis White
Breakers
HLC
Cannons
HoCo Black
ALC Bay Raiders
Zingos Blue
LTLC
Baltimore Swarm
Ground Control LC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 06:15 PM
[quote=Anonymous]2027 initial alignment

Elite
Crabs
Next Level
Team 91
Annapolis Hawks
FCA
Mesa MD
Madlax Capital
Team MD LC White
/quote]

MESA MD in Elite?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 09:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]2027 initial alignment

Elite
Crabs
Next Level
Team 91
Annapolis Hawks
FCA
Mesa MD
Madlax Capital
Team MD LC White
/quote]

MESA MD in Elite?

That's a lot of people's reactions. Nice that they're actually playing elite. Crabs lost to Sidewinders so they could pull in some wins. True Annapolis which won against them is playing 2 divisions down. kind of a shame looneys and bethesda moved down. Only Crabs and FCA left as non-profits now (yes I know there's people making money in non profits smile ).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 10:24 PM
That 91 Mesa game will be the only win for one of those teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 10:46 PM
Serious question, what is the significance of profit vs. non-profit in this context?
From what I have observed, the kids, coaches, and parents in one ownership structure or the other are not much difference from one to the next. (both have some good apples, and some not so good). I'm interested in why somebody would make that observation when recapping the elite division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/10/21 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That 91 Mesa game will be the only win for one of those teams.

FCA and Crabs have had pretty much the same or worse record this past fall. Crabs lost to sidewinders as one example. Good to see if any of those can rise to the level of hawks, next level, madlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That 91 Mesa game will be the only win for one of those teams.

FCA and Crabs have had pretty much the same or worse record this past fall. Crabs lost to sidewinders as one example. Good to see if any of those can rise to the level of hawks, next level, madlax.
Any surprises this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That 91 Mesa game will be the only win for one of those teams.

FCA and Crabs have had pretty much the same or worse record this past fall. Crabs lost to sidewinders as one example. Good to see if any of those can rise to the level of hawks, next level, madlax.
Any surprises this weekend?


Hawks 0-2-1 at Spring Thaw

Crabs 0-3 @ Spring Thaw

Madlax 1-2 @ Spring Thaw



Madlax 2-1 @ Spring Madness



Team MD 0-3 @ Kickoff

Next Level 4-0-1 @ Kickoff

FCA 2-0-1 @ Kickoff

T91 3-0 @ Kickoff
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 03:10 PM
FCA and Team 91 played A
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA and Team 91 played A


Says that FCA also played Mad Dog National in AA and tied them 3-3, same for Next Level.

MDN rolled just about everyone this weekend including team MD 14-2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA and Team 91 played A

Wrong. Check the schedule. FCA played 2 games vs A and 1 game vs AA on Saturday and 91MD played AA on Sunday.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 03:53 PM
Spring Thaw had a six team 2027 division, with three intact HoCo Elite teams (Hawks, MadLax, and Crabs), plus three national or regional all star teams. As a Dad of one of the three intact Elite teams, I was initially disappointed that the three Elite teams did not play against each other, but it actually was better to go up against the all star teams to get ready for the HoCo season. MadLax and Hawks had all close, intense games against the all star teams, and got a win and a tie. Crabs had a close loss and two bigger losses. I would not consider any of those results a surprise. I expect MadLax, Hawks, and a couple of other teams to have some epic battles in HoCo this spring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA and Team 91 played A

Wrong. Check the schedule. FCA played 2 games vs A and 1 game vs AA on Saturday and 91MD played AA on Sunday.

Looks like 91MD won two games by 7 points and another by 11.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spring Thaw had a six team 2027 division, with three intact HoCo Elite teams (Hawks, MadLax, and Crabs), plus three national or regional all star teams. As a Dad of one of the three intact Elite teams, I was initially disappointed that the three Elite teams did not play against each other, but it actually was better to go up against the all star teams to get ready for the HoCo season. MadLax and Hawks had all close, intense games against the all star teams, and got a win and a tie. Crabs had a close loss and two bigger losses. I would not consider any of those results a surprise. I expect MadLax, Hawks, and a couple of other teams to have some epic battles in HoCo this spring.

So, do you not consider the Elite HoCo teams to be all-star teams in their own right?

Are the local Allstars not as good as the out of state allstars?

Your argument is perplexing- out of state all stars competing and beating local elite all star teams. But losses being blamed on having to play of state allstar teams.

Hoco elite is the measuring stick After all, they draw from the 2nd greatest lacrosse hotbed in the nation in MD, not to mention-DC, VA amd to lesser extent PA

One point I agree with having seen almost all of the 2027 elite bracket play this weekend- there are certainly going to be some epic battles this spring and I do believe a new champion will emerge!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 05:35 PM
It does look like Team 91 technically played AA. However, AA was sorted into two groups. The Sidewinders, VLC, T91, BLC Blue group and the NL, Mad Dog, True IL, and Team MD, Team 11 group.

So congrats T91! Enjoy your AA wins!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It does look like Team 91 technically played AA. However, AA was sorted into two groups. The Sidewinders, VLC, T91, BLC Blue group and the NL, Mad Dog, True IL, and Team MD, Team 11 group.

So congrats T91! Enjoy your AA wins!


Technically, FCA played A and ran from the AA competition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spring Thaw had a six team 2027 division, with three intact HoCo Elite teams (Hawks, MadLax, and Crabs), plus three national or regional all star teams. As a Dad of one of the three intact Elite teams, I was initially disappointed that the three Elite teams did not play against each other, but it actually was better to go up against the all star teams to get ready for the HoCo season. MadLax and Hawks had all close, intense games against the all star teams, and got a win and a tie. Crabs had a close loss and two bigger losses. I would not consider any of those results a surprise. I expect MadLax, Hawks, and a couple of other teams to have some epic battles in HoCo this spring.

So, do you not consider the Elite HoCo teams to be all-star teams in their own right?

Are the local Allstars not as good as the out of state allstars?

Your argument is perplexing- out of state all stars competing and beating local elite all star teams. But losses being blamed on having to play of state allstar teams.

Hoco elite is the measuring stick After all, they draw from the 2nd greatest lacrosse hotbed in the nation in MD, not to mention-DC, VA amd to lesser extent PA

One point I agree with having seen almost all of the 2027 elite bracket play this weekend- there are certainly going to be some epic battles this spring and I do believe a new champion will emerge!!

PP here, my post was more of an observation than an argument. Best of luck this season and try to relax and enjoy your son's games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spring Thaw had a six team 2027 division, with three intact HoCo Elite teams (Hawks, MadLax, and Crabs), plus three national or regional all star teams. As a Dad of one of the three intact Elite teams, I was initially disappointed that the three Elite teams did not play against each other, but it actually was better to go up against the all star teams to get ready for the HoCo season. MadLax and Hawks had all close, intense games against the all star teams, and got a win and a tie. Crabs had a close loss and two bigger losses. I would not consider any of those results a surprise. I expect MadLax, Hawks, and a couple of other teams to have some epic battles in HoCo this spring.

So, do you not consider the Elite HoCo teams to be all-star teams in their own right?

Are the local Allstars not as good as the out of state allstars?

Your argument is perplexing- out of state all stars competing and beating local elite all star teams. But losses being blamed on having to play of state allstar teams.

Hoco elite is the measuring stick After all, they draw from the 2nd greatest lacrosse hotbed in the nation in MD, not to mention-DC, VA amd to lesser extent PA

One point I agree with having seen almost all of the 2027 elite bracket play this weekend- there are certainly going to be some epic battles this spring and I do believe a new champion will emerge!!

The only surprise was how close the games were against the “all-star” teams. In the games I saw, Nationals clearly were the best but it would have been fun to see them go up against Team PA. Our boys went 1-2 but I still like our chances in HoCo. All in all, a fun day of lacrosse. Great event.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It does look like Team 91 technically played AA. However, AA was sorted into two groups. The Sidewinders, VLC, T91, BLC Blue group and the NL, Mad Dog, True IL, and Team MD, Team 11 group.

So congrats T91! Enjoy your AA wins!


Technically, FCA played A and ran from the AA competition.

Technically- NO- AA was never offered on Saturday- 4 FCA kids play on one of the "all-star" teams and could not make it on Sunday due to other commitment. They tried to play TI and NL on Saturday but scheduler would not change due to lack of teams in A.

FCA plays LIE, Sweetlax and Prime Time on Saturday prior to starting HoCo on Sunday- they arent running from anyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 06:20 PM
So what were NL, True, and Team MD, and mad dog doing on Saturday?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 06:30 PM
And NL played FCA a couple of times in the Fall in HoCo league. Why play each other again?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what were NL, True, and Team MD, and mad dog doing on Saturday?

So what Ive been told from a reliable source is what happened is Sunday was always designed to be the AA day and Saturday A. But an unusually large number of out of state AA type teams expressed interest in playing both days. So NL who is running the tournament scheduled some games on Saturday afternoon where they had some extra field availability with the out of state teams. They tried to accommodate more local teams playing against the elite out of state teams, but there was field availability limitations on granting everyone’s request.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It does look like Team 91 technically played AA. However, AA was sorted into two groups. The Sidewinders, VLC, T91, BLC Blue group and the NL, Mad Dog, True IL, and Team MD, Team 11 group.

So congrats T91! Enjoy your AA wins!


Technically, FCA played A and ran from the AA competition.

Technically- NO- AA was never offered on Saturday- 4 FCA kids play on one of the "all-star" teams and could not make it on Sunday due to other commitment. They tried to play TI and NL on Saturday but scheduler would not change due to lack of teams in A.

FCA plays LIE, Sweetlax and Prime Time on Saturday prior to starting HoCo on Sunday- they arent running from anyone.

So FCA can only compete when 4 players who are on an "all-star" team can be at games this season. Otherwise they're only an A team. Got it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It does look like Team 91 technically played AA. However, AA was sorted into two groups. The Sidewinders, VLC, T91, BLC Blue group and the NL, Mad Dog, True IL, and Team MD, Team 11 group.

So congrats T91! Enjoy your AA wins!


Technically, FCA played A and ran from the AA competition.

Technically- NO- AA was never offered on Saturday- 4 FCA kids play on one of the "all-star" teams and could not make it on Sunday due to other commitment. They tried to play TI and NL on Saturday but scheduler would not change due to lack of teams in A.

FCA plays LIE, Sweetlax and Prime Time on Saturday prior to starting HoCo on Sunday- they arent running from anyone.

So FCA can only compete when 4 players who are on an "all-star" team can be at games this season. Otherwise they're only an A team. Got it.


Nah, not really- FCA only has 19 players- 4 already playing, 1 on vacation.

It would be hard for any team at any level to play multiple games in a day with only 14 players and no goalie.....

smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 07:34 PM
What’s going on with the Hawks?

Word on the street is there are a lot of angry parents out there based on coaching changes and lack of practice during a pandemic!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s going on with the Hawks?

Word on the street is there are a lot of angry parents out there based on coaching changes and lack of practice during a pandemic!

Did not see much Fall tournament action (were there any?) . Knew of a few roster changes (one 26 def joined, 1 left for mesa, and 1 27 middie went down to 28).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s going on with the Hawks?

Word on the street is there are a lot of angry parents out there based on coaching changes and lack of practice during a pandemic!

Did not see much Fall tournament action (were there any?) . Knew of a few roster changes (one 26 def joined, 1 left for mesa, and 1 27 middie went down to 28).

Typical Hawks holdback season. Four kids from 27 went down to 28.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 09:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s going on with the Hawks?

Word on the street is there are a lot of angry parents out there based on coaching changes and lack of practice during a pandemic!

Did not see much Fall tournament action (were there any?) . Knew of a few roster changes (one 26 def joined, 1 left for mesa, and 1 27 middie went down to 28).

Typical Hawks holdback season. Four kids from 27 went down to 28.

1 went to madlax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 01:01 AM
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

If you are born in summer 2009 before Sept you aren't on age for 2028. there's at least one if not more. If that's what fits best academically, fine do what's best, but don't pretend it's not a holdback impact when it comes to sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It does look like Team 91 technically played AA. However, AA was sorted into two groups. The Sidewinders, VLC, T91, BLC Blue group and the NL, Mad Dog, True IL, and Team MD, Team 11 group.

So congrats T91! Enjoy your AA wins!


Technically, FCA played A and ran from the AA competition.

Technically- NO- AA was never offered on Saturday- 4 FCA kids play on one of the "all-star" teams and could not make it on Sunday due to other commitment. They tried to play TI and NL on Saturday but scheduler would not change due to lack of teams in A.

FCA plays LIE, Sweetlax and Prime Time on Saturday prior to starting HoCo on Sunday- they arent running from anyone.

That is a busy spring tournament schedule! which one is that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 10:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

If you are born in summer 2009 before Sept you aren't on age for 2028. there's at least one if not more. If that's what fits best academically, fine do what's best, but don't pretend it's not a holdback impact when it comes to sports.

Please, not this again, Let the holdbacks pretend they are not holdbacks, they did prefirst or were born in the summer. That is not a holdback according to the world of lacrosse. Makes Johnny feel better. Get with the program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

If you are born in summer 2009 before Sept you aren't on age for 2028. there's at least one if not more. If that's what fits best academically, fine do what's best, but don't pretend it's not a holdback impact when it comes to sports.

Please, not this again, Let the holdbacks pretend they are not holdbacks, they did prefirst or were born in the summer. That is not a holdback according to the world of lacrosse. Makes Johnny feel better. Get with the program.

What's worse 3-4 holdbacks on a team or creating all star teams to be able to compete.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

If you are born in summer 2009 before Sept you aren't on age for 2028. there's at least one if not more. If that's what fits best academically, fine do what's best, but don't pretend it's not a holdback impact when it comes to sports.

Please, not this again, Let the holdbacks pretend they are not holdbacks, they did prefirst or were born in the summer. That is not a holdback according to the world of lacrosse. Makes Johnny feel better. Get with the program.

What's worse 3-4 holdbacks on a team or creating all star teams to be able to compete.

Go Nationals
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

If you are born in summer 2009 before Sept you aren't on age for 2028. there's at least one if not more. If that's what fits best academically, fine do what's best, but don't pretend it's not a holdback impact when it comes to sports.

Please, not this again, Let the holdbacks pretend they are not holdbacks, they did prefirst or were born in the summer. That is not a holdback according to the world of lacrosse. Makes Johnny feel better. Get with the program.

What's worse 3-4 holdbacks on a team or creating all star teams to be able to compete.

Lets see, what's worst....playing down or bringing in better on age players than you have ? Survey says, playing down .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 02:17 PM
Why is this 2027 forum concerned about summer 2009 players moving to 2028 - if that were even the case? I can see this group going crazy if Hawks 2026 players with summer 2008 birthdays were coming down to play for 2027, but I don’t think that’s happening.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is this 2027 forum concerned about summer 2009 players moving to 2028 - if that were even the case? I can see this group going crazy if Hawks 2026 players with summer 2008 birthdays were coming down to play for 2027, but I don’t think that’s happening.

Because certain parents brag that they're kid is playing up to 27 to your face. Nope, your son is the same age and you just held them back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 04:20 PM
😂 all because a parent bragged about their kid... welcome to lacrosse!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

If you are born in summer 2009 before Sept you aren't on age for 2028. there's at least one if not more. If that's what fits best academically, fine do what's best, but don't pretend it's not a holdback impact when it comes to sports.

Please, not this again, Let the holdbacks pretend they are not holdbacks, they did prefirst or were born in the summer. That is not a holdback according to the world of lacrosse. Makes Johnny feel better. Get with the program.

What's worse 3-4 holdbacks on a team or creating all star teams to be able to compete.

Go Nationals

B
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

If you are born in summer 2009 before Sept you aren't on age for 2028. there's at least one if not more. If that's what fits best academically, fine do what's best, but don't pretend it's not a holdback impact when it comes to sports.

Please, not this again, Let the holdbacks pretend they are not holdbacks, they did prefirst or were born in the summer. That is not a holdback according to the world of lacrosse. Makes Johnny feel better. Get with the program.

What's worse 3-4 holdbacks on a team or creating all star teams to be able to compete.

Lets see, what's worst....playing down or bringing in better on age players than you have ? Survey says, playing down .

What happens when little Johnny can't depend on his all stars he needs to shine. Its the exact same thing as a hold back. Both pathetic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is this 2027 forum concerned about summer 2009 players moving to 2028 - if that were even the case? I can see this group going crazy if Hawks 2026 players with summer 2008 birthdays were coming down to play for 2027, but I don’t think that’s happening.

If it didn't matter then why does WSYL have rules like this?

All players must be born on or after 9/1/2007 for the 13U division and born on or after 9/1/2006 for the 14U division. Each player will be required to submit a copy of their birth certificate
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 06:40 PM
27 Hawks head coach went to 2028. His son is a 2010 birthday, a 2028. Two other kids- both from the 27 Hawks, moved down to 2028 also. Both are true 5th graders.

Don’t speak on it if you don’t know.

That whole team has 13 new players. NO kids from USS or True. New coach and mostly new Roster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 08:13 PM
HoCo Week 1 Schedule is out

Hawks vs Sidewinders

Team MD vs Next Level

Madlax vs T91

FCA vs Crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 08:57 PM
[quote=Anonymous]HoCo Week 1 Schedule is out

Hawks vs Sidewinders

Team MD vs Next Level

Madlax vs T91

FCA vs Crabs[/quote
Oh, Sidewinders are Elite?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
27 Hawks head coach went to 2028. His son is a 2010 birthday, a 2028. Two other kids- both from the 27 Hawks, moved down to 2028 also. Both are true 5th graders.

Don’t speak on it if you don’t know.

That whole team has 13 new players. NO kids from USS or True. New coach and mostly new Roster.

You get specific about one player’s DOB. Why quiet on the other two? Both holdbacks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 12:29 AM
Better get ready to protest the Madlax rosters each and every game. They have 29 players listed on the A team and 19 on the B team and 9 players names appear on both rosters. Their own parents complained about double rostering earlier this fall.

And I bet those BLC parents really feel good moving to ML just to switch to the C division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 former 2027 Hawks went to 2028, but they were 2028’s playing up. They are on age for 2028.

Why does 3 kids at the bottom of the roster moving down affect Hawks 27's at all?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 12:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
27 Hawks head coach went to 2028. His son is a 2010 birthday, a 2028. Two other kids- both from the 27 Hawks, moved down to 2028 also. Both are true 5th graders.

Don’t speak on it if you don’t know.

That whole team has 13 new players. NO kids from USS or True. New coach and mostly new Roster.

Doesn't make sense. 3 move down and 1 maybe goes to ML and they have 13 new players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 01:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
27 Hawks head coach went to 2028. His son is a 2010 birthday, a 2028. Two other kids- both from the 27 Hawks, moved down to 2028 also. Both are true 5th graders.

Don’t speak on it if you don’t know.

That whole team has 13 new players. NO kids from USS or True. New coach and mostly new Roster.

Doesn't make sense. 3 move down and 1 maybe goes to ML and they have 13 new players?

Math doesn't lie.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 01:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
27 Hawks head coach went to 2028. His son is a 2010 birthday, a 2028. Two other kids- both from the 27 Hawks, moved down to 2028 also. Both are true 5th graders.

Don’t speak on it if you don’t know.

That whole team has 13 new players. NO kids from USS or True. New coach and mostly new Roster.

Doesn't make sense. 3 move down and 1 maybe goes to ML and they have 13 new players?

That is a huge change. Reason why they went 0-2 at spring thaw?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 02:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
27 Hawks head coach went to 2028. His son is a 2010 birthday, a 2028. Two other kids- both from the 27 Hawks, moved down to 2028 also. Both are true 5th graders.

Don’t speak on it if you don’t know.

That whole team has 13 new players. NO kids from USS or True. New coach and mostly new Roster.

And what is wrong with what they are doing. It is all within the rules, Keep it real people.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 02:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
27 Hawks head coach went to 2028. His son is a 2010 birthday, a 2028. Two other kids- both from the 27 Hawks, moved down to 2028 also. Both are true 5th graders.

Don’t speak on it if you don’t know.

That whole team has 13 new players. NO kids from USS or True. New coach and mostly new Roster.

And what is wrong with what they are doing. It is all within the rules, Keep it real people.

When those parents lie about their kids age, make fun of other teams in front of them, yeah, you're getting called out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/20/21 12:43 AM
Lacrosse is the fastest-growing youth sport. The National teams have a huge catchment area. West Coast Stars draws from a population base of over 50 million. While we have in DMV 20 clubs spreading the talent pool. It's just a numbers game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/20/21 03:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse is the fastest-growing youth sport. The National teams have a huge catchment area. West Coast Stars draws from a population base of over 50 million. While we have in DMV 20 clubs spreading the talent pool. It's just a numbers game.

West Coast Starz are terrible. Most DMV club teams win easily against them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/21/21 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse is the fastest-growing youth sport. The National teams have a huge catchment area. West Coast Stars draws from a population base of over 50 million. While we have in DMV 20 clubs spreading the talent pool. It's just a numbers game.

West Coast Starz are terrible. Most DMV club teams win easily against them.


Not sure I follow. WCS 2027 Gold went 1-1 vs Madlax, beat the Hawks and crushed the Crabs last weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:26 PM
Curious how Madlax 2027's handled their rosters? Did any BLC or pre-existing players choose to return or leave after the BLC contingent came over. Has to be a bad situation going from the top division to the 3rd level. The DMV team should dominate that level and the Capital team is super strong regardless of who left.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse is the fastest-growing youth sport. The National teams have a huge catchment area. West Coast Stars draws from a population base of over 50 million. While we have in DMV 20 clubs spreading the talent pool. It's just a numbers game.

West Coast Starz are terrible. Most DMV club teams win easily against them.


Not sure I follow. WCS 2027 Gold went 1-1 vs Madlax, beat the Hawks and crushed the Crabs last weekend.

I spoke to one of the Hawks parents, they went 0-2-1 that weekend. I think they are still getting dialed in with the new coach. I’m not sure they lost or tied 3 games in the last 2 years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 01:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse is the fastest-growing youth sport. The National teams have a huge catchment area. West Coast Stars draws from a population base of over 50 million. While we have in DMV 20 clubs spreading the talent pool. It's just a numbers game.

West Coast Starz are terrible. Most DMV club teams win easily against them.


Not sure I follow. WCS 2027 Gold went 1-1 vs Madlax, beat the Hawks and crushed the Crabs last weekend.

I spoke to one of the Hawks parents, they went 0-2-1 that weekend. I think they are still getting dialed in with the new coach. I’m not sure they lost or tied 3 games in the last 2 years.

Next few games in hoco will be good to see where they're at.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 01:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse is the fastest-growing youth sport. The National teams have a huge catchment area. West Coast Stars draws from a population base of over 50 million. While we have in DMV 20 clubs spreading the talent pool. It's just a numbers game.

West Coast Starz are terrible. Most DMV club teams win easily against them.


Not sure I follow. WCS 2027 Gold went 1-1 vs Madlax, beat the Hawks and crushed the Crabs last weekend.

Madlax capital is a strong team. Hawks are hard to know right now. Crabs have really slipped and just lost to FCA who had a awful fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse is the fastest-growing youth sport. The National teams have a huge catchment area. West Coast Stars draws from a population base of over 50 million. While we have in DMV 20 clubs spreading the talent pool. It's just a numbers game.

West Coast Starz are terrible. Most DMV club teams win easily against them.


Not sure I follow. WCS 2027 Gold went 1-1 vs Madlax, beat the Hawks and crushed the Crabs last weekend.

Madlax capital is a strong team. Hawks are hard to know right now. Crabs have really slipped and just lost to FCA who had a awful fall.

All of that might very well be accurate, but I was responding to the comment that "West Coast Starz are terrible. Most DMV club teams win easily against them" and WCS played 3 teams (4 games) against DMV teams and none of them "won easily" vs WCS. Not making the point that WCS is amazingly good, etc
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/25/21 01:49 AM
NL or Madlax? Who you got this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/08/21 11:59 PM
Sidewinders bail on HOCO again. Must be Covid related.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/10/21 02:53 PM
And now the FCA Madlax game is postponed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 07:25 PM
91 has 2 goals in 3 games? Am I reading the results correctly? Is this a typo?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 has 2 goals in 3 games? Am I reading the results correctly? Is this a typo?

Doesn't help they played Hawks and NL in 2 of the 3. If 91 had been bumped out this year, what team could have done better?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 has 2 goals in 3 games? Am I reading the results correctly? Is this a typo?

Doesn't help they played Hawks and NL in 2 of the 3. If 91 had been bumped out this year, what team could have done better?

Team MD had some goals against hawks but yeah, generally there's a significant gap between Hawks/Madlax/NL to the other teams in the division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/14/21 01:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 has 2 goals in 3 games? Am I reading the results correctly? Is this a typo?

Doesn't help they played Hawks and NL in 2 of the 3. If 91 had been bumped out this year, what team could have done better?

Team MD had some goals against hawks but yeah, generally there's a significant gap between Hawks/Madlax/NL to the other teams in the division.

Hawks are in a tier of their own.

The 2nd tier. Ahead of the rest, but clearly behind NL and Madlax.
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