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1-2 days a week fall lax.
3 days a week ECNL soccer.

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Poll question. - In the Fall, how many days a week is your son practicing with his club team? If you can tell me which club, great, if you prefer not to, which division in HOCO did they play in last spring.

OP here. At this point, 8th grade about to enter HS, I had hoped our club (AAA) would increase the level of training/practices. We have been told that this was going to happen for the past couple seasons, but it hasn’t. I’m just trying to get some info from others so I can get a better perspective. IMO, if you are playing club at this grade 2 a week seems like it should be the standard for any level from A to Elite. My son plays 2 sports, but lacrosse is his main focus.

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Practices twice or more a week for out of season sports is a lot to ask of a young athlete who also plays other sports, especially if the in-season team is a club sport that practices multiple times per week. There is a marked increase in over-use injuries in young athletes from playing/practicing several days a week. Let them focus on the in-season sports and their academics, and give their bodies an opportunity to rest and recover from their in season sports.

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Poll question. - In the Fall, how many days a week is your son practicing with his club team? If you can tell me which club, great, if you prefer not to, which division in HOCO did they play in last spring.

OP here. At this point, 8th grade about to enter HS, I had hoped our club (AAA) would increase the level of training/practices. We have been told that this was going to happen for the past couple seasons, but it hasn’t. I’m just trying to get some info from others so I can get a better perspective. IMO, if you are playing club at this grade 2 a week seems like it should be the standard for any level from A to Elite. My son plays 2 sports, but lacrosse is his main focus.

I get your point but. The vast majority of boys at AA lax or above are in soccer or football 5-6 days per week. Football for us right now is MW 60 minutes (school team), T/TH/F 3.5 hours (rec team + school team), Sat scrimmage or games (rec team). Sunday is club lax + lax small group training later in the day. Many boys have no days off of full-on team sports from Sept 1 to Nov 15. Zero days off. Would love to see more lax during the week....but "how" is a big question, especially as the soccer and football injuries start piling up over the next few weeks.

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Poll question. - In the Fall, how many days a week is your son practicing with his club team? If you can tell me which club, great, if you prefer not to, which division in HOCO did they play in last spring.

OP here. At this point, 8th grade about to enter HS, I had hoped our club (AAA) would increase the level of training/practices. We have been told that this was going to happen for the past couple seasons, but it hasn’t. I’m just trying to get some info from others so I can get a better perspective. IMO, if you are playing club at this grade 2 a week seems like it should be the standard for any level from A to Elite. My son plays 2 sports, but lacrosse is his main focus.
If your son is in AAA in 8th grade and isn’t playing more than 2 times a week in the fall, he’s got no future in the game. Just give up lacrosse and focus on his other sport.

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Why ask the question when you are already biased? PP said it right just go play your other sport.

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US Club lax finally addressing holdbacks! Thoughts?

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Poll question. - In the Fall, how many days a week is your son practicing with his club team? If you can tell me which club, great, if you prefer not to, which division in HOCO did they play in last spring.

OP here. At this point, 8th grade about to enter HS, I had hoped our club (AAA) would increase the level of training/practices. We have been told that this was going to happen for the past couple seasons, but it hasn’t. I’m just trying to get some info from others so I can get a better perspective. IMO, if you are playing club at this grade 2 a week seems like it should be the standard for any level from A to Elite. My son plays 2 sports, but lacrosse is his main focus.

If your son is in AAA in 8th grade and isn’t playing more than 2 times a week in the fall, he’s got no future in the game. Just give up lacrosse and focus on his other sport.

Lol, your reading comprehension isn't that great, is it? I said his club team is only holding practices once a week in the fall, I didn't say he was only playing once a week. You can go back to trolling other message boards now.

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If your son is in AAA in 8th grade and isn’t playing more than 2 times a week in the fall, he’s got no future in the game. Just give up lacrosse and focus on his other sport.

Fixed.

If your son is in AAA and isn't a holdback, he’s got no future in the game. Just give up lacrosse and focus on soccer where its fair.

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Why ask the question when you are already biased? PP said it right just go play your other sport.

Hmmm, it's kind of odd that this triggered you. It's really not that hard to understand. I was looking for information about other clubs to then form a more knowledgeable opinion. You can go join your troll friend and talk about holdbacks or how only Elite teams matter now.

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You people do know it’s fall ball right? Means absolutely nothing

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You people do know it’s fall ball right? Means absolutely nothing

None of it really means anything.

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US Club lax finally addressing holdbacks! Thoughts?

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the link is on IG.

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Looks like move is to school age calendar year Sept 1 like World Series Model!

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Looks like move is to school age calendar year Sept 1 like World Series Model!

When is this supposed to go into effect? And is there any meat behind it?

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Looks like move is to school age calendar year Sept 1 like World Series Model!

When is this supposed to go into effect? And is there any meat behind it?

No, there is no meat behind it. It's US Club Lax not US Lacrosse. All that is is social media fodder for clicks. And they got em...

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It shouldn’t impact the 27s as they are moving into high school next year.

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Just for World Series.

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My understanding is that the new age rules/enforcement will not go until effect until 2024. It will end at U-15 for recruiting. We'll have to start uploading birth certificates shortly and have a slight increase in our yearly payment to US lacrosse. Whatever, at least the issue is finally sorted out.

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My understanding is that the new age rules/enforcement will not go until effect until 2024. It will end at U-15 for recruiting. We'll have to start uploading birth certificates shortly and have a slight increase in our yearly payment to US lacrosse. Whatever, at least the issue is finally sorted out.


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Any details on the age/grade change? I haven't seen it posted on the US Club site or anywhere else.

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Isn’t this age group starting high school next year? What difference will these changes make?

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The first attempt at putting some rails on age limits and class cheating has been done by The Circuit. The Circuit is an attempt to throw an elite, national team tournament for those teams not in the NLF. It was organized as those teams became more successful and were regularly beating teams in the NLF teams and were being excluded from their tournaments.

The rosters for the circuit have age limits beginning June 1, but rosters are allowed 3 exceptions to the June 1 date. Birth certificates and things like report cards are being used to verify both age and class verification. The really good older kids are scrambling around the national teams to make sure they are one of the 3 exceptions.

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This person is trolling all the threads blatantly lying about a decision - that hasn’t been made. And speaking on it as it it is a fact.

I know this board is a cesspool but the deliberate lying is ridiculous.

They are just trying to make money off their pitiful age verification that they want to charge you for.

IF THIS happens, I’d expect to pay US Lacrosse - as everyone already does for a membership. Not some random looking to get rich.

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The first attempt at putting some rails on age limits and class cheating has been done by The Circuit. The Circuit is an attempt to throw an elite, national team tournament for those teams not in the NLF. It was organized as those teams became more successful and were regularly beating teams in the NLF teams and were being excluded from their tournaments.

The rosters for the circuit have age limits beginning June 1, but rosters are allowed 3 exceptions to the June 1 date. Birth certificates and things like report cards are being used to verify both age and class verification. The really good older kids are scrambling around the national teams to make sure they are one of the 3 exceptions.

Literally none of this is true.

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The first attempt at putting some rails on age limits and class cheating has been done by The Circuit. The Circuit is an attempt to throw an elite, national team tournament for those teams not in the NLF. It was organized as those teams became more successful and were regularly beating teams in the NLF teams and were being excluded from their tournaments.

The rosters for the circuit have age limits beginning June 1, but rosters are allowed 3 exceptions to the June 1 date. Birth certificates and things like report cards are being used to verify both age and class verification. The really good older kids are scrambling around the national teams to make sure they are one of the 3 exceptions.

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This person is trolling all the threads blatantly lying about a decision - that hasn’t been made. And speaking on it as it it is a fact.

I know this board is a cesspool but the deliberate lying is ridiculous.

They are just trying to make money off their pitiful age verification that they want to charge you for.

IF THIS happens, I’d expect to pay US Lacrosse - as everyone already does for a membership. Not some random looking to get rich.

Is the change true or not? I haven't come across any notifications of the change but after the US club lacrosse poll it would be hard to ignore 90% of families looking for a change.

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The first attempt at putting some rails on age limits and class cheating has been done by The Circuit. The Circuit is an attempt to throw an elite, national team tournament for those teams not in the NLF. It was organized as those teams became more successful and were regularly beating teams in the NLF teams and were being excluded from their tournaments.

The rosters for the circuit have age limits beginning June 1, but rosters are allowed 3 exceptions to the June 1 date. Birth certificates and things like report cards are being used to verify both age and class verification. The really good older kids are scrambling around the national teams to make sure they are one of the 3 exceptions.

The Circuit is just another attempted cash grab for the head of Nationals LC. Based on how their 2027 team performed at Naptown this summer, I wouldn't say they are regularly beating anyone of merit. And to say they are attempting to put some rails on age limits and class cheating is a joke. Nationals will play a 2026 kid in 2027 if he's just thinking about reclassing.

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The Circuit looks like a way for some of these "national" teams to fool kids into thinking they're playing against the best. I'll concede BBL's 2027 team is actually pretty good, and Nationals used to be before they imploded due to the owner's shenanigans, but the rest of the Circuit competition isn't even in top 30 range. Red Hots can put together some good guest player teams, but rarely against good competition.

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change will not effect this class if it happens looks like it might make a difference for 2030 and 2029

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I just got off a call and I do not believe any class will be affected until the 2030's. While unfair now the younger age groups will no longer need to deal with the BS of holdbacks. I'm glad parents finally spoke up against having older kids play down for once.

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Based off what info

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The first attempt at putting some rails on age limits and class cheating has been done by The Circuit. The Circuit is an attempt to throw an elite, national team tournament for those teams not in the NLF. It was organized as those teams became more successful and were regularly beating teams in the NLF teams and were being excluded from their tournaments.

The rosters for the circuit have age limits beginning June 1, but rosters are allowed 3 exceptions to the June 1 date. Birth certificates and things like report cards are being used to verify both age and class verification. The really good older kids are scrambling around the national teams to make sure they are one of the 3 exceptions.

3 exceptions?? That’s notIntelligent. That’s all it takes to change the outcome

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The Circuit actually thinks the 3 exception rule is light years better than what it has been. The original discussion started with class and then worked its way back to a combination of age and class. A couple of clubs argued hard for class only but the June 1 date and 3 exceptions was accepted as a compromise. Current participating teams will largely look the same and teams like Red Hots and Nationals will scramble to attract their 3 exceptions since a good chunk of their roster participate for multiple teams.

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The Circuit actually thinks the 3 exception rule is light years better than what it has been. The original discussion started with class and then worked its way back to a combination of age and class. A couple of clubs argued hard for class only but the June 1 date and 3 exceptions was accepted as a compromise. Current participating teams will largely look the same and teams like Red Hots and Nationals will scramble to attract their 3 exceptions since a good chunk of their roster participate for multiple teams.

I dare anyone to show me where this exception rule is or even any kind of age cutoff. I’ve seen nothing to substantiate any of this.

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The Circuit actually thinks the 3 exception rule is light years better than what it has been. The original discussion started with class and then worked its way back to a combination of age and class. A couple of clubs argued hard for class only but the June 1 date and 3 exceptions was accepted as a compromise. Current participating teams will largely look the same and teams like Red Hots and Nationals will scramble to attract their 3 exceptions since a good chunk of their roster participate for multiple teams.

I dare anyone to show me where this exception rule is or even any kind of age cutoff. I’ve seen nothing to substantiate any of this.



Just seems like a money grab. Quick way to make a windfall of cash. Why have exceptions?

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It would be a complete disaster for US club lacrosse to ignore the safety concerns of holdbacks physically assaulting younger kids after the Tua situation in the NFL. Concussions are real. Playing your 15 yr old against a 13yr old is a safety concern. Regardless of how badly you want your son to get into a good school.

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The Circuit actually thinks the 3 exception rule is light years better than what it has been. The original discussion started with class and then worked its way back to a combination of age and class. A couple of clubs argued hard for class only but the June 1 date and 3 exceptions was accepted as a compromise. Current participating teams will largely look the same and teams like Red Hots and Nationals will scramble to attract their 3 exceptions since a good chunk of their roster participate for multiple teams.

I dare anyone to show me where this exception rule is or even any kind of age cutoff. I’ve seen nothing to substantiate any of this.

I don't know what to tell you. We received an email from the team director stating the rules and there is a register process from Authenticate asking for proof of class and a birth certificate. I guess that's good news in that I might be the only Circuit parent reading this board.

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sorry charlie but you complainin aint gonna change nothin

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