Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still hard to believe the animosity toward Duke in particular. Sour grapes? Duke is an amazing academic institution and at the end of the 4 years, education is what matters, not lacrosse. Go vilify someone else.


I do not think it is animosity, sour grapes, throwing someone under the bus or an anti Duke bias; just facts about the lacrosse program. I do not read anyone arguing that Duke University is not a top education. The issues being noted are about the performance on the lacrosse field. Below are the five schools that have recruited the highest number of Under Armour All Americans during the 14 years it has existed. Duke has substantially under performed all 4 of those programs, 3 of them are miles ahead. Duke has not even made a national final. The other important fact about that list, all of those coaches have been there for almost the entire period of time, Reese missed the first couple of years. All the schools have had substantial talent, all have had the same head coach and only one is clearly lagging behind.

65 Maryland
53 North Carolina
50 Virginia
44 Duke
39 Northwestern


Under Armour? How can there be any correlation between the programs that bring in the UA All-Americans and a programs success ? Many times I have read on here and heard on the sidelines and in my local pub that Under Armour, Inside Lacrosse, USLacrosse, etc... are all political and the players will disappear in college etc... I would think the programs that get all of the other "just as deserving players" would out perform the programs that consistently bring in the highest regarded players if in fact it is all BS and political.



Ok, so you want to use things like I read this or heard that as an argument? Show me facts that demonstrate it does not correlate. Her are some more for you.... of the 5 teams referenced above that recruit the most UA All-Americans, they have won 15 of the last 16 national championships or 94%. Let’s look at the 2019 D1 Media All-Americans. There were 48 women selected to the first, second and third teams. 34 or 71% were UA All-Americans. For the 5 teams referenced above, they had a combined 17 and 14 or 82% were UA All-Americans. You give any coach a better than 70% chance of getting an all-American, or, one of these 5 teams better than 80% chance, they would take that in a heart beat. It translates into results, big time, except at a place in Durham NC...

Here is a list of the 14 from the five programs listed above, you might recognize some of the names...

Caroline Steele
Jen Giles
Julia Bragg
Kali Hartshorn
Lizzie Colson
Megan Taylor
Jamie Ortega
Katie Hoeg
Taylor Moreno
Brennan Dwyer
Izzy Scane
Selena Losota
Olivia Jenner
Maggie Jackson