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Anyone else see the 91 Mom go to fists on the sideline??? what are we in the Bronx?!
Wow, 10 years on the sidelines, and that is the first I've see of a chick fight...In front of the kids too.

Bronx? you mean what rock.
Wolverines lost to 91 in the championship game.
That being said the wolverines players and parents have more class then 91 even after a loss. I couldn't believe the 91 mom
Went after an express grandma, she had to be pulled away.
The grandma was cheering on her grandson I guess a little to
Loud for the 91 mom. Funny because 91 has the
Loudest parents around.
Who goes to attack a grandma at a lax game?
Guess we know that answer. That was after a win
Imagine what a great example she will set after a loss.

Nothing compares to the Barracuda Sachem parent , who is the most Obnoxious loud mouth always yelling at the refs ,his kid , and other parents at every tournament we see him at . Now that's a guy who needs help with his anger issues ! Hate to see what he looks like when his kid is in high school .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bronx? you mean what rock.
Wolverines lost to 91 in the championship game.
That being said the wolverines players and parents have more class then 91 even after a loss. I couldn't believe the 91 mom
Went after an express grandma, she had to be pulled away.
The grandma was cheering on her grandson I guess a little to
Loud for the 91 mom. Funny because 91 has the
Loudest parents around.
Who goes to attack a grandma at a lax game?
Guess we know that answer. That was after a win
Imagine what a great example she will set after a loss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bronx? you mean what rock.
Wolverines lost to 91 in the championship game.
That being said the wolverines players and parents have more class then 91 even after a loss. I couldn't believe the 91 mom
Went after an express grandma, she had to be pulled away.
The grandma was cheering on her grandson I guess a little to
Loud for the 91 mom. Funny because 91 has the
Loudest parents around.
Who goes to attack a grandma at a lax game?
Guess we know that answer. That was after a win
Imagine what a great example she will set after a loss.

Some people have no class, no matter what team their kid is on. I'm sure she'll be wearing a different organization shirt in the future. Thankfully the parents at my kids games were pretty good this year (both sides), I can't say the same about his dekhockey games.

Another 91 parent who is out of control, now there is a surprise!

My 11 year oil is still talking about it this morning, he said, " II didn't think moms do that."

Should hook her up with the Barracuda nut job daddy.

quote=Anonymous]Another 91 parent

who is out of control, now there is a surprise! [/quote]

This weekend was totally nuts!!

I know the Mom in question and I'm not surprised by her actions. I have seen her and the crew yell at parents many times. Her husband has also had yelled and cursed many times from the sideline. I witnessed a lot of bad sportsmanship by all the 91 teams!!! I witnessed a father encouraging his son to hurt someone else and then celebrating when the kid was carried off the field. We used to play for 91 and went elsewhere do to their constant antics.

Not all. 91 teams have these behaviors- been with the club with my sons over the years and can honestly say, the majority of all the parents at 91 and other teams are fine, respectable families. It's the few rotten eggs, here and there, that brings a club it's bad reputation. It's a shame and an embarrassment.

Any comments on the game? This was the reason that we all were there, right? The game was well played by both sides. It is unfortunate what happened after the game. Any comments from the Wolverine's about the new player from Icon? I feel sorry for the player that lost his spot to the new addition for the last game. We all spend a lot of money for our kids to play on an elite team. It's not right to do that for a win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any comments on the game? This was the reason that we all were there, right? The game was well played by both sides. It is unfortunate what happened after the game. Any comments from the Wolverine's about the new player from Icon? I feel sorry for the player that lost his spot to the new addition for the last game. We all spend a lot of money for our kids to play on an elite team. It's not right to do that for a win.

Was he there as a guest player or he joined the team for the end of the season? What position? I can see a coach wanting to try a new player to see if he fits before next season, but I totally see what you are saying- someone got less playing time if this kid started and bumped another rosetted since the try outs.

Heard he left Icon, big blow to their team

I saw the Igloo director at Laxfest talking to the kid fo a very long time. I guess he picked Express where his brother played. Icon was an A- to A team with him. I wonder if this will knock them down to the B ranks if he left.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard he left Icon, big blow to their team

I heard there are a few "A" Players out there in 2021 that are thinking about moving on from their teams to try something different. I am expecting a shake-up next season with Igloo still the team to beat....Everyone is gunning for top talent. Should make for a great fall tryout schedule. If these programs were smart they would offer partial scholarships or else they could fins themselves on the end of a losing season.

OMG - 'merit' scholarships for youth club lacrosse.

It seems so ridiculous, but it certainly could make sense from a team's point of view to grab a real difference-maker . . . until everyone does it. Then could you end up with the bottom half of the roster paying more so discounts can be used to attract better players. I would say that this could never happen, but then I remember that is exactly what is happening with many colleges and most law schools now in our post-US News/World rankings world.

Seriously, I certainly hope clubs save scholarships for quality kids whose parents can't or can barely afford it. I think clubs should find a way for any kid good enough to make the team to be able to play regardless of money (we actually had good luck getting hotels to offer comped rooms for a couple scholarship kids.)

Do most clubs offer full "scholarships" to a kid that can make the team (not a star) whose parents don't have any money? I certainly didn't see it on a few websites when I checked, but I thought most did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bronx? you mean what rock.
Wolverines lost to 91 in the championship game.
That being said the wolverines players and parents have more class then 91 even after a loss. I couldn't believe the 91 mom
Went after an express grandma, she had to be pulled away.
The grandma was cheering on her grandson I guess a little to
Loud for the 91 mom. Funny because 91 has the
Loudest parents around.
Who goes to attack a grandma at a lax game?
Guess we know that answer. That was after a win
Imagine what a great example she will set after a loss.

Some people have no class, no matter what team their kid is on. I'm sure she'll be wearing a different organization shirt in the future. Thankfully the parents at my kids games were pretty good this year (both sides), I can't say the same about his dekhockey games.

Which dek hockey team ?

I think that is done already. Especially for goalies. Although I think the individual coaches are more in favor of this then the owners/Directors. Cant imagine why

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard there are a few "A" Players out there in 2021 that are thinking about moving on from their teams to try something different. I am expecting a shake-up next season with Igloo still the team to beat....Everyone is gunning for top talent. Should make for a great fall tryout schedule. If these programs were smart they would offer partial scholarships or else they could fins themselves on the end of a losing season.

I heard the same thing , Grass is greener on the other side syndrome . I heard that many organizations have been congragating a list of the ones who hop around from team to team too each year , that's not a good sign when these organizations are in bed with each other .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard there are a few "A" Players out there in 2021 that are thinking about moving on from their teams to try something different. I am expecting a shake-up next season with Igloo still the team to beat....Everyone is gunning for top talent. Should make for a great fall tryout schedule. If these programs were smart they would offer partial scholarships or else they could fins themselves on the end of a losing season.

Obviously, you are quite misinformed and a sore loser to boot. Shame on you for forming an opinion on a matter which didn't involve you or go down the way you suppose it did!! The wolverine parents & kids were devastated with the final outcome of the laxclash tournament but overall it was a well played finale.

was thinking same thing. Plenty of Dek Hockey parents I always imagine as some of the lacrosse parents. Last year we are going to play @ the Sports Arena. I know one 8-9 yr olds mom with a bad reputation there.

Give me a break...this is nothing new....how many times have you seen some kid show up and play on a PAL team that they are NOT on. How many times have you seen a GROUP of kids show up to a tournament and play for a club and have never attended a practice. It happens all the time. Coaches will bring in a kid or kids to get a win or try someone out. But now when it happens to you all of a sudden it's not fair. There are no rules in lacrosse unfortunately. It is here to stay. It sucks but it will never change. I have been seeing this happen for years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any comments on the game? This was the reason that we all were there, right? The game was well played by both sides. It is unfortunate what happened after the game. Any comments from the Wolverine's about the new player from Icon? I feel sorry for the player that lost his spot to the new addition for the last game. We all spend a lot of money for our kids to play on an elite team. It's not right to do that for a win.

Was he there as a guest player or he joined the team for the end of the season? What position? I can see a coach wanting to try a new player to see if he fits before next season, but I totally see what you are saying- someone got less playing time if this kid started and bumped another rosetted since the try outs.

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

It is awesome when your kid gets asked to play for another team, right? But then when someone is asked to play on your sons team and your kid gets bumped...not so great...what goes around comes around...it happens to the best of us so be careful what you wish for

Was done in typical Express fashion...took on a player a tournament... sat the others who paid for the season...nothing new here..guess they really wanted to win versing real competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard there are a few "A" Players out there in 2021 that are thinking about moving on from their teams to try something different. I am expecting a shake-up next season with Igloo still the team to beat....Everyone is gunning for top talent. Should make for a great fall tryout schedule. If these programs were smart they would offer partial scholarships or else they could fins themselves on the end of a losing season.

Now you want to give partial scholarships to 11/12 yr olds ? Are you out of your mind. Most club parents can afford it trust me. There's enough talent on LI to replace a young "stud" who's parents are probobly crazy. This whole lax scene is crazy.

The 2021 91 parents are an absolute embarrassment. I cannot believe the language and the way they scream at everyone's kids on the field. Bunch of low-life's. Where are the classless ones from anyway?
My older son was recruited this past year. His coach told us that the second thing the college coaches asked ( after what his grades were) was, what are the parents like?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

So why would the Express ask a player who has no intention of leaving his current team to play one tournament? Is winning the tournament that important? Why would the parents of that Express team allow this? Maybe beating 91 at what was considered a home tournament was more important then finishing the season with the players that that gave them a very good summer season. If I was parent on that team I would be pissed!!!!!!

Express didnt "need" the player to beat 91. They have beat 91 the last 2 times they played them on their own. The higher ups asked that the kid play on that team for that tournament. And yes the parents should be pissed. But that is typical Express. It is what it is and anyone who knows Express knows this is how they do things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

So why would the Express ask a player who has no intention of leaving his current team to play one tournament? Is winning the tournament that important? Why would the parents of that Express team allow this? Maybe beating 91 at what was considered a home tournament was more important then finishing the season with the players that that gave them a very good summer season. If I was parent on that team I would be pissed!!!!!!

Higher ups? And you know this how?
Coming from Anonymous I would say your theory is not credible, but yes wolves beat 91 before , maybe just relying on an outside talent a bit to much , causing them to lose in championship. Parents being pissed on the wolves is nothing new as most likely this statement is coming from a disgruntled Wolve parent . As on 91 you hear the same drama on that end . Parents if you see the writing on the wall in the beginning of the season and you think your kid is the next Paul Rabil then jump ship, this is youth lacrosse , there's an [lacrosse] for every seat out there ! Don't become a cancer to the team and bash on the sidelines, throughout the season. I can't tell you how many parents I stood with on the sideline who consistently bashed a coach and player the whole season , but stood in front of the coaches with a smile like everything is okay. Or better yet the ones who bash , go directly to the coach after a game and bitched , and usually that's the parent who acts inappropriate on the sidelines and you can't blame a coach for his decision making of the kids playtime .then you have the ones who go shopping during the season trying to get recruited to another travel program for the next season while trying to mantain his current situation without a glitch , only to be exposed by the coaches they approached , causing a bad reputation to follow .
All for the Glory of youth Ncaa lacrosse .
Take a deep breath , people you need to relax and take your son fishing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express didnt "need" the player to beat 91. They have beat 91 the last 2 times they played them on their own. The higher ups asked that the kid play on that team for that tournament. And yes the parents should be pissed. But that is typical Express. It is what it is and anyone who knows Express knows this is how they do things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

So why would the Express ask a player who has no intention of leaving his current team to play one tournament? Is winning the tournament that important? Why would the parents of that Express team allow this? Maybe beating 91 at what was considered a home tournament was more important then finishing the season with the players that that gave them a very good summer season. If I was parent on that team I would be pissed!!!!!!

It just gives the appearance that they brought in someone to make sure they won. Someone who apparently had no intention of leaving Icon. Have faith in the kids that gave you a pretty good summer season.

Well said!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Higher ups? And you know this how?
Coming from Anonymous I would say your theory is not credible, but yes wolves beat 91 before , maybe just relying on an outside talent a bit to much , causing them to lose in championship. Parents being pissed on the wolves is nothing new as most likely this statement is coming from a disgruntled Wolve parent . As on 91 you hear the same drama on that end . Parents if you see the writing on the wall in the beginning of the season and you think your kid is the next Paul Rabil then jump ship, this is youth lacrosse , there's an [lacrosse] for every seat out there ! Don't become a cancer to the team and bash on the sidelines, throughout the season. I can't tell you how many parents I stood with on the sideline who consistently bashed a coach and player the whole season , but stood in front of the coaches with a smile like everything is okay. Or better yet the ones who bash , go directly to the coach after a game and bitched , and usually that's the parent who acts inappropriate on the sidelines and you can't blame a coach for his decision making of the kids playtime .then you have the ones who go shopping during the season trying to get recruited to another travel program for the next season while trying to mantain his current situation without a glitch , only to be exposed by the coaches they approached , causing a bad reputation to follow .
All for the Glory of youth Ncaa lacrosse .
Take a deep breath , people you need to relax and take your son fishing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express didnt "need" the player to beat 91. They have beat 91 the last 2 times they played them on their own. The higher ups asked that the kid play on that team for that tournament. And yes the parents should be pissed. But that is typical Express. It is what it is and anyone who knows Express knows this is how they do things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

So why would the Express ask a player who has no intention of leaving his current team to play one tournament? Is winning the tournament that important? Why would the parents of that Express team allow this? Maybe beating 91 at what was considered a home tournament was more important then finishing the season with the players that that gave them a very good summer season. If I was parent on that team I would be pissed!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Higher ups? And you know this how?
Coming from Anonymous I would say your theory is not credible, but yes wolves beat 91 before , maybe just relying on an outside talent a bit to much , causing them to lose in championship. Parents being pissed on the wolves is nothing new as most likely this statement is coming from a disgruntled Wolve parent . As on 91 you hear the same drama on that end . Parents if you see the writing on the wall in the beginning of the season and you think your kid is the next Paul Rabil then jump ship, this is youth lacrosse , there's an [lacrosse] for every seat out there ! Don't become a cancer to the team and bash on the sidelines, throughout the season. I can't tell you how many parents I stood with on the sideline who consistently bashed a coach and player the whole season , but stood in front of the coaches with a smile like everything is okay. Or better yet the ones who bash , go directly to the coach after a game and bitched , and usually that's the parent who acts inappropriate on the sidelines and you can't blame a coach for his decision making of the kids playtime .then you have the ones who go shopping during the season trying to get recruited to another travel program for the next season while trying to mantain his current situation without a glitch , only to be exposed by the coaches they approached , causing a bad reputation to follow .
All for the Glory of youth Ncaa lacrosse .
Take a deep breath , people you need to relax and take your son fishing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express didnt "need" the player to beat 91. They have beat 91 the last 2 times they played them on their own. The higher ups asked that the kid play on that team for that tournament. And yes the parents should be pissed. But that is typical Express. It is what it is and anyone who knows Express knows this is how they do things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

So why would the Express ask a player who has no intention of leaving his current team to play one tournament? Is winning the tournament that important? Why would the parents of that Express team allow this? Maybe beating 91 at what was considered a home tournament was more important then finishing the season with the players that that gave them a very good summer season. If I was parent on that team I would be pissed!!!!!!

Good point and food for thought. Next time you get a phone call or email to "help out" remember how it affects others.

Very well put together point that is !

Especially the ones who are never happy .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well said!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Higher ups? And you know this how?
Coming from Anonymous I would say your theory is not credible, but yes wolves beat 91 before , maybe just relying on an outside talent a bit to much , causing them to lose in championship. Parents being pissed on the wolves is nothing new as most likely this statement is coming from a disgruntled Wolve parent . As on 91 you hear the same drama on that end . Parents if you see the writing on the wall in the beginning of the season and you think your kid is the next Paul Rabil then jump ship, this is youth lacrosse , there's an [lacrosse] for every seat out there ! Don't become a cancer to the team and bash on the sidelines, throughout the season. I can't tell you how many parents I stood with on the sideline who consistently bashed a coach and player the whole season , but stood in front of the coaches with a smile like everything is okay. Or better yet the ones who bash , go directly to the coach after a game and bitched , and usually that's the parent who acts inappropriate on the sidelines and you can't blame a coach for his decision making of the kids playtime .then you have the ones who go shopping during the season trying to get recruited to another travel program for the next season while trying to mantain his current situation without a glitch , only to be exposed by the coaches they approached , causing a bad reputation to follow .
All for the Glory of youth Ncaa lacrosse .
Take a deep breath , people you need to relax and take your son fishing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express didnt "need" the player to beat 91. They have beat 91 the last 2 times they played them on their own. The higher ups asked that the kid play on that team for that tournament. And yes the parents should be pissed. But that is typical Express. It is what it is and anyone who knows Express knows this is how they do things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

So why would the Express ask a player who has no intention of leaving his current team to play one tournament? Is winning the tournament that important? Why would the parents of that Express team allow this? Maybe beating 91 at what was considered a home tournament was more important then finishing the season with the players that that gave them a very good summer season. If I was parent on that team I would be pissed!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Higher ups? And you know this how?
Coming from Anonymous I would say your theory is not credible, but yes wolves beat 91 before , maybe just relying on an outside talent a bit to much , causing them to lose in championship. Parents being pissed on the wolves is nothing new as most likely this statement is coming from a disgruntled Wolve parent . As on 91 you hear the same drama on that end . Parents if you see the writing on the wall in the beginning of the season and you think your kid is the next Paul Rabil then jump ship, this is youth lacrosse , there's an [lacrosse] for every seat out there ! Don't become a cancer to the team and bash on the sidelines, throughout the season. I can't tell you how many parents I stood with on the sideline who consistently bashed a coach and player the whole season , but stood in front of the coaches with a smile like everything is okay. Or better yet the ones who bash , go directly to the coach after a game and bitched , and usually that's the parent who acts inappropriate on the sidelines and you can't blame a coach for his decision making of the kids playtime .then you have the ones who go shopping during the season trying to get recruited to another travel program for the next season while trying to mantain his current situation without a glitch , only to be exposed by the coaches they approached , causing a bad reputation to follow .
All for the Glory of youth Ncaa lacrosse .
Take a deep breath , people you need to relax and take your son fishing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express didnt "need" the player to beat 91. They have beat 91 the last 2 times they played them on their own. The higher ups asked that the kid play on that team for that tournament. And yes the parents should be pissed. But that is typical Express. It is what it is and anyone who knows Express knows this is how they do things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didnt leave ICON. Season was over for Icon and he was invited to play for the Express . The ICON player will be back with ICON in the Fall for the tryout.
Express must be getting nervous needing to recruit 5th Graders to compete vs 91.
Not looking to start a BOTC war here just clearing up the 5/6 grade lacrosse rumor mill.
What a Joke

So why would the Express ask a player who has no intention of leaving his current team to play one tournament? Is winning the tournament that important? Why would the parents of that Express team allow this? Maybe beating 91 at what was considered a home tournament was more important then finishing the season with the players that that gave them a very good summer season. If I was parent on that team I would be pissed!!!!!!

My son plays on the Barracudas and they had new players show up during the season. We won't be back next year.

My son plays on Wolves and will be trying out for Barracudas

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays on the Barracudas and they had new players show up during the season. We won't be back next year.

It gets worse as they get older on Express. New kids showing up all year. The coaches aren't safe either.

It's the same tryout

I'm all ears

I have to say the express really seems like it's losing it's luster as a program.
Not one dominate team, people complaining all the time.
Directors getting rid of coaches so they can coach.
Directors can't relate to kids anymore, it's time for fresh blood there.
They threaten the parents with how they are the only ones
Who can get them into showcases now. Big downward spiral with that program.

I agree. Express as an organization seems to be struggling to both attract players and also keep them. Too much turmoil, unhappiness, finger pointing, etc. Secondly, other than the 2020 team they really do not compete with the top A teams.

That may all be true but if you have any aspirations of at playing at either Chaminade or St. Anthony's playing for Express gives you a huge advantage and people know that.

I dont think so. Last year their entire 2021 B team walked and half of their A. The result ? 3 2021 teams this year. AS long as people feel they are an inroad to the Catholic schools they will thrive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree. Express as an organization seems to be struggling to both attract players and also keep them. Too much turmoil, unhappiness, finger pointing, etc. Secondly, other than the 2020 team they really do not compete with the top A teams.

You have to say? and you are? Absolutely Love the predictable club bashing attempts every year before tryouts from either parents who's kid struggled with getting the attention for more playtime , or by other travel organization members who feel the need this is the way you destroy a reputation of another club ,and maybe little johns parents will see this post and finally come play for a real team ! lol you can bet that every single travel club listed on this site has the same exact issues , your not exposing anything that most people already know . it just shows you are green and have little knowledge of the travel circuit ups and downs . Good luck with your perfect little world you live in. and happy club hunting .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to say the express really seems like it's losing it's luster as a program.
Not one dominate team, people complaining all the time.
Directors getting rid of coaches so they can coach.
Directors can't relate to kids anymore, it's time for fresh blood there.
They threaten the parents with how they are the only ones
Who can get them into showcases now. Big downward spiral with that program.

But is that actually just how people feel or is it true. What are the percentage of players that actually come out of Express for those two schools as opposed to the ones that don't. Also, how many of those kids would have made those teams REGARDLESS of where they played travel, it is only perception. A player worthy of playing High School LAX at that level would have made the team regardless of where they played youth travel.

I think you are the only one here, in all of these posts, who has referred to this team as a "real team." Must be a coach.
None of this has anything to do with master minding behind the scenes to try and have any effect on a tryout, or a clubs reputation. This is what this site is all about. It is human nature, season is over, people talk and this is the site to do it on.

[quote=Anonymous]The 2021 91 parents are an absolute embarrassment. I cannot believe the language and the way they scream at everyone's kids on the field. Bunch of low-life's. Where are the classless ones from anyway?
My older son was recruited this past year. His coach told us that the second thing the college coaches asked ( after what his grades were) was, what are the parents like? [/quote

We played 91 in pool play and the parents were fine. No more or less obnoxious then an other teams parents.

Actually its " what is the kid like" then "how big are teh parents"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The 2021 91 parents are an absolute embarrassment. I cannot believe the language and the way they scream at everyone's kids on the field. Bunch of low-life's. Where are the classless ones from anyway?
My older son was recruited this past year. His coach told us that the second thing the college coaches asked ( after what his grades were) was, what are the parents like? [/quote

We played 91 in pool play and the parents were fine. No more or less obnoxious then an other teams parents.

Express tryouts August 25 and 27 .. are they off their rockers? week before Labor Day? I guess you really have to want to play for express to make those tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express tryouts August 25 and 27 .. are they off their rockers? week before Labor Day? I guess you really have to want to play for express to make those tryouts.

Express going early to try to snag down payment before other teams. I think that kids should have more time to commit to a team. Let them tryout for a few teams and see what teams they make, and then decide who to go with. These travel organizations are nothing less than bullies!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express tryouts August 25 and 27 .. are they off their rockers? week before Labor Day? I guess you really have to want to play for express to make those tryouts.

Typically they were always after most teams. I guess, and why not, get a jump on the talent before they commmit to someone else. Heck, Team LI has theirs a week from Saturday...

Honestly; great idea to have them during the week. Travel takes enough of our weekends away from us.

Should be a giant free agency tryout(s)(Pro Day) and all of the teams should come down. Players can fill out a questionnaire and check off what teams they would be interested in hearing from.

Parents can visit all of the team tents and the directors can meet the parents as well.

Then they should have all of the players #s up on a website and pull them off as they commit.Teams could reach out to the remaining ones and sell them on their A or B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be a giant free agency tryout(s)(Pro Day) and all of the teams should come down. Players can fill out a questionnaire and check off what teams they would be interested in hearing from.

Parents can visit all of the team tents and the directors can meet the parents as well.

Then they should have all of the players #s up on a website and pull them off as they commit.Teams could reach out to the remaining ones and sell them on their A or B team.

Great idea!

there goes our end of summer vacation! NOT!!!

Team LI 2021 lost to DalerNation and a couple of friends this weekend at the Lax4BackPax. Guess that answers where they are in the ranks at this age. Great game and the DN was man down to start the overtime and ended up killing it amd getting the wn.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team LI 2021 lost to DalerNation and a couple of friends this weekend at the Lax4BackPax. Guess that answers where they are in the ranks at this age. Great game and the DN was man down to start the overtime and ended up killing it amd getting the wn.

Love the Couple of Friends comment- is that like Bob Weir and friends

Who cares about Team LI, can't really compete at any level, will always be 2nd string. You get what you pay for! They need new leadership if they want to go forward, otherwise they fade fast!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about Team LI, can't really compete at any level, will always be 2nd string. You get what you pay for! They need new leadership if they want to go forward, otherwise they fade fast!

Call me an old timer but two years ago my son played in this event but it wasn't a championship tournament, we played for fun, shame it's become a tournament that folks need to brag about. Seems low class to me, thought it was a charity and a good teaching opportunity for the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team LI 2021 lost to DalerNation and a couple of friends this weekend at the Lax4BackPax. Guess that answers where they are in the ranks at this age. Great game and the DN was man down to start the overtime and ended up killing it amd getting the wn.

That was TLI u11 red. That is their B team. U11 white which is there A team was not there. I know this because my son plays for HDD and one of their players played with us. Dalernation had zero shot of beating the u11 white team. Despite what some of the idiots here have to say they are one of the better 2021 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team LI 2021 lost to DalerNation and a couple of friends this weekend at the Lax4BackPax. Guess that answers where they are in the ranks at this age. Great game and the DN was man down to start the overtime and ended up killing it amd getting the wn.

That was TLI u11 red. That is their B team. U11 white which is there A team was not there. I know this because my son plays for HDD and one of their players played with us. Dalernation had zero shot of beating the u11 white team. Despite what some of the idiots here have to say they are one of the better 2021 teams.

You are correct. That was not the TLI 2021 A team. Huge difference between the 2 teams. We played them both. The A team is very good. They were not at the tournament.

Taking a step away from which teams are better than which, how advanced of schemes do folks think 6th graders can and should learn?

I know fundamentals are still the key and coach players, not plays, but still curious about:

- Is this the age to add a 2nd or 3rd offensive set?
- Add 2nd EMO set?
- Install both adjacent and crease slide packages?
- Teach kids to slide and recover to hole and open man, like in college, or double the ball and just bump back to original offensive player guarded?
- How complex of clears?

Or just keep things simple and focus on kids operating better within a single scheme (i.e, moving the ball faster, more off-ball movement, emphasizing dodge-pass-pass-redodge/shot, anticipating 2nd and 3rd slides)? Either way, I think fundamentals are still most important, but any practice time spent teaching a new offensive set or slide package is time away from 4v4 or shooting drills.

For most of the country this past Summer (so not MD or LI AA team), I'd say you had a solid 2021 team if they could pass, catch and shoot with both hands, clear through for dodgers, run one offense well, had one ride down, had 2-3 EMO plays out of a single set, had a pass-first mentality and knew how to play on- and off-ball D in either a crease or adjacent slide package. Better teams, obviously, had better off-ball movement, passed before slide could get to them and picked well (most non-hotbed picking at U11, I thought, gained little).

Thoughts?

Get a life. They're 11 years old.

Yeah, for only $2500 a year, parents just expect a guy with floppy hat to roll the ball out . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a life. They're 11 years old.

a

really? a coach asking a community of lax people what types of offense and defense are appropriate for 6th grade lax would be a perfect discussion on a youth lax forum. Way better than which teams are better etc.

my sons 6th grade team had 3 plays. a motion set they ran most of the time, an endline play, a dodge the shorty from out top. 2 EMO plays i think. defense was all slide from crease. the coach kept it simple since it was a summer team only and all kids were playing for town teams in spring

Can someone tell me a little about Icon? A few kids I know want to tryout for the team.

Kind of new to the travel game, looking for a good travel team. Hoping not to travel too far for it. Any help would be great, located in Port Jefferson. Thanks.

Which is icons A team, blue or orange? Thanks

Iconned u

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which is icons A team, blue or orange? Thanks

Orange

Heard Cold Spring Varsity coach is with Outlaws on Silver Team. Not on web site , Is this true?

News Flash ..... Cold Spring Harbors Varsity coaches son plays for the Outlaws.... Yes he helps

I saw on another thread on this site that the team's are pretty much picked. Perhaps ICON will need 2-3 New players. Can't always believe what others say......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw on another thread on this site that the team's are pretty much picked. Perhaps ICON will need 2-3 New players. Can't always believe what others say......

Good A teams for 2021,2020, and older will obviously have the majority of their teams in place. However, most will look to upgrade 3,4 or 5 spots if they can.

How is millon 2021 ?

Not good at all. Mid to lower level C team.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

How is millon 2021 ?

Are they even close to being a "B" team ? Maybe a few new kids for this year will help

Not even close. I saw low level "B" teams beat them by a lot.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

Are they even close to being a "B" team ? Maybe a few new kids for this year will help

Here are some scores of games. Lost to PAL Baybort 6-2, Lost to Express C team 5-4, Lost to Wantah Tribe 13-8, Lost to 91 2022 C team Combined with 91 2021 C team 11-2, Lost to Turf Island 12-6, Lost to another 2022 team but can't remember the name or score. Beat 91 2022 C team 7-1. These are all C or lower level B teams.

I didn't think 91 had a c team

The kids that don't make a 2022 and 2021 team play as the 2021 stampede team.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

I didn't think 91 had a c team

This will help you with 91 teams. They have a C team and combine them for 2021/2022. Since they play 2021 they are terrible. I don't know why a parent would place a kid on this team when there are so many good B teams looking for players. See the link.http://boys.team91lacrosse.com/2014-tournaments.html

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The kids that don't make a 2022 and 2021 team play as the 2021 stampede team.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

I didn't think 91 had a c team

Name a few good "B" teams that didn't have tryouts yet that are looking for players

Viper

fl$, Legacy "B", Jesters "A" and Icon "B" are all B teams that are all good for a B team and much better then 91 C team. Igloo "B" will be a B team although they think they will be an "A" team. I say this because all the good players will be locked up by the time Igloo picks a team. Just about any B team will be better then 91 C team. Also some of the new teams look interesting. These teams include the Hurricanes, Empire, Blue Sharks and Bengals. If a kid is a B level player a parent should not be looking for the best B team. He/she should be looking for a team that practices a lot and will play close games with any B team. Coaching is of course Important. Having said that the best B coaches from the above teams would be Icon B,fl$, Jesters (they have a D1 coach with the director)and Igloo. I don't know about the other teams coaches so I will leave them out. As for practice time the Jesters and Igloo will practce the most out of these teams. But the new teams have nice packages too but not as much as Igloo or the Jesters. Jesters practiced over 50 times last year. Igloo seems to be offering about 30 to 40 practices. Where you live is important too. Good luck. Picking a team is a tough choice to have to make when you don't have all the info and are relying on what other people think is good. You ask ten poeple something and you may get ten different answers and all telling the truth.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

Name a few good "B" teams that didn't have tryouts yet that are looking for players

Many that already had tryouts could still be looking for players. Sometimes clubs don't get enough kids committing
My suggestion is to email the director of any club you are interested and tell them you missed the tryout but are interested in playing. Many times they will have you come to a practice and evaluate your son. Good luck!

Im new at this LI Express 2018 ? Has two teams 1 and 2 which I guess mean the A team and B team why don't they just say so

On another thought fl$ does not practice enough and is too expensive for a "B' team. Jesters are very expensive for a B team. B teams should not be on the higher end of the price list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$, Legacy "B", Jesters "A" and Icon "B" are all B teams that are all good for a B team and much better then 91 C team. Igloo "B" will be a B team although they think they will be an "A" team. I say this because all the good players will be locked up by the time Igloo picks a team. Just about any B team will be better then 91 C team. Also some of the new teams look interesting. These teams include the Hurricanes, Empire, Blue Sharks and Bengals. If a kid is a B level player a parent should not be looking for the best B team. He/she should be looking for a team that practices a lot and will play close games with any B team. Coaching is of course Important. Having said that the best B coaches from the above teams would be Icon B,fl$, Jesters (they have a D1 coach with the director)and Igloo. I don't know about the other teams coaches so I will leave them out. As for practice time the Jesters and Igloo will practce the most out of these teams. But the new teams have nice packages too but not as much as Igloo or the Jesters. Jesters practiced over 50 times last year. Igloo seems to be offering about 30 to 40 practices. Where you live is important too. Good luck. Picking a team is a tough choice to have to make when you don't have all the info and are relying on what other people think is good. You ask ten poeple something and you may get ten different answers and all telling the truth.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

Name a few good "B" teams that didn't have tryouts yet that are looking for players

And Tomahawks...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will help you with 91 teams. They have a C team and combine them for 2021/2022. Since they play 2021 they are terrible. I don't know why a parent would place a kid on this team when there are so many good B teams looking for players. See the link.http://boys.team91lacrosse.com/2014-tournaments.html

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The kids that don't make a 2022 and 2021 team play as the 2021 stampede team.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

I didn't think 91 had a c team

By son was on this team and he learned a lot from the coaches. Had plenty more practices than normal and made good friends. My goal is to have my kid enjoy the game and learn from top coaches. Also, keep in mind most of these kids were 2022 so they were playing up in every tournament which pushed them to play better. If you are looking for a team that wins tournaments so you can brag to your friends, this is not the team for you.

Laxman5 where are you from,What posision is your son and what level is he? We can give you a lot better info for teams in your area if we know more.

Lake Ronkonkoma area . Plays D-fense and midfield. Solid B team player.

Solid B player where you are located should have a good shot at making Legacy A or B team. Legacy A has a lot of B players. They are a B plus team. The B team is a very good B team too. I would also look at Empire. They are a new program. I am told (but I am not sure if it is true) that these people have great college conections. I think practice will be at Stony Brook but you have to find out. 91 is out of Melville. B players would not make the Heat Team but would make White. 91 and legacy try outs are at the same time so you will have to pick one. I would not travel too far. 6 pm weekday practice in the middle of the island away from a highway is rough. A lot of the B teams that have been mentioned may be too far from you. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

Lake Ronkonkoma area . Plays D-fense and midfield. Solid B team player.

Long Island bengals. All coached by varsity lacrosse coaches

Thanks for input.

Where do you think he has better shot , legacy or 91 ?

Originally Posted by Laxman5

Where do you think he has better shot , legacy or 91 ?

Legacy given it's merging with HDD probably no spots guaranteed.

Hard to say without knowing or seeing the player. The Legacy/HDD merger should not matter because the HDD were not great but I'm sure they have some players who may be favored. The Legacy A team is B plus team and he may have a shot at that team. Legacy B and 91 White are close in talent level. 91 White should have more openings. I don't like going to a B team when a program has an A team. You are better off with a program with one B team. I will say this go to all tryouts for any program that has more than one. My son plays on an A team and one of his teamates went to only one of the 91 2021 tryouts last year and he did not make the C team but made two A teams and was the leading scorer on the team he picked. Makes one wonder what they were thinking there. Maybe he did not get enough touches and they missed him. One team to watch is Empire. Empire director was the SWR coach for 19 years and has many connections. I'm sure he know ALL the top schools coaches. If Empire had practices closer to my house I would consider going there. That team may be very good faster than you may think. Good to be an original player and get them to like your kid. Tough choices so good luck.

So the way I see it. Legacy has 1 A team and 1 B team ? And 91 has 1 AA team 1 A team and 1 B team ??

Legacy has one A minus/B plus team and a solid B team. Total two teams. 91 has an A B and C team. Total 3 teams.

Originally Posted by Laxman5

So the way I see it. Legacy has 1 A team and 1 B team ? And 91 has 1 AA team 1 A team and 1 B team ??

Does anyone know anything about the U12 Team Long Island team? I heard that a fair amount of kids may be leaving for greener pastures.

Green grass and high tides for ever

They are light years away from being a B team. I don't think they won a game all season. What's worse is they say they don't care. Any talented players on that team last year that do care will probably be playing elsewhere this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are light years away from being a B team. I don't think they won a game all season. What's worse is they say they don't care. Any talented players on that team last year that do care will probably be playing elsewhere this year.

How about their A team?

LI Bengals are Plainedge and Bellmore/Merrick schools - really VARSITY! That's almost laughable to quote Varsity coaches!!!

Jesters are a joke with their fee. It's probably because Nissim still hasn't paid his coaches from last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Tomahawks...

Paying 1500 for a B team is a joke. Panetta is laughing all the way to the bank

So does that mean that Coach Danowski was the Worst coach ever b/c he was at Hofstra? Now all of a sudden he is the greatest Coach at Duke??? No.. does not matter where you coach or what school. It matters who the players are. Dont penalize someone for where they coach. They y coach whoever shows up. Whatever school they coach at does not make them a good or bad coach. Either you can coach or you cant.

Forgot danowski was also a daddy coach .

I heard that there is a free workout/tryout for a team on the south shore at 3000 bellmore avenue tomorrow at 5:45 pm. A friend with their son on the team said they are looking for 2 or 3 more players to round out their roster and wanted to spread the word organically through word of mouth. If you're interested just show up its a b+/a- from what I can tell. Coaches seem like they know what they're doing and focus on the kids which is great plus for free why not go. Thought I'd share.

Ok, this kid is supposedly the next John Grant Jr.

http://laxallstars.com/11-year-old-next-john-grant-jr/

He may be, but these videos don't show anything I don't see every week by someone on my kid's team or the team he is playing.

Ok please tell me this was a joke. I'm not picking on an 11 yr old, but come on......the next john grant? I see better plays on my PAL team. Forget about the travel team my son plays on. This kids' mom and dad need to tone it down a little. We can all put videos of our kids hits or goals on you tube. Stop.

The Long Island bengals have their 2021 tryout next weekend. Seems like a nice up and coming program.

WOW!!! Marketing a 11 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really? Why would you post that?

Why isn't there a tryout for 2022 boys?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW!!! Marketing a 11 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can see the parents posting it, but Lacrosse All Stars? They lost a lot of credibility in my book.

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

Why?

Free tryouts for a 2019 team Sunday September 21st B+ team. If your son wants to play or doesn't make another team we may have spots give 516-882-3436 and ask for Andrew for more information. Currently have 3-4 spots open but they are going fast looks like 2 more accepted invitations today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

Why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

Are you posting from the tryout tool?

Why??? Please tell.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

I took my son to Icon tonight. It seemed to run smooth. Maybe I missed something?

How many kids? They have 2 good teams. Maybe A team is set already?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I took my son to Icon tonight. It seemed to run smooth. Maybe I missed something?

Icon 2021 2nd year of the program. Had to be 100 kid
at tryout so many good players they can have 3 teams in the age group. Don't hate they new guys it's just a great legit product.
Good Luck to all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

Couldn't be further from the truth in the 2021 division. They're gonna come out with two solid teams in that age group. A lot of talent there tonight

This is a top team. They had a good time for tryouts. Did not conflict with other top teams. Should be interesting becuase with that many kids there should be a bunch of changes on the A team this year if they want to compete with 91 and Igloo. This team has a history of limited changes to the A team. Maybe this year will be different but team seems set. I wish them well. The B team is good for a B team as well. If a kid makes the A team it is a good place to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 2nd year of the program. Had to be 100 kid
at tryout so many good players they can have 3 teams in the age group. Don't hate they new guys it's just a great legit product.
Good Luck to all

I don't think a top or solid player will take the icon B team. All of teams on Icon's level who had tryouts so far and in past years had 100 to 150 kids at try outs and those teams never have great B teams with the exception of the Cudas but those kids were found and put on the team after try outs. The good kids that are put on Icon B will just reject it and go back to the team they played on the year before or find another team. Should be interesting if the A team has many changes given the talent that people say was there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

Couldn't be further from the truth in the 2021 division. They're gonna come out with two solid teams in that age group. A lot of talent there tonight

Word has it Cudas team took all the best kids from tryouts and gave the Wolves their Scraps from last year . Very interesting !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think a top or solid player will take the icon B team. All of teams on Icon's level who had tryouts so far and in past years had 100 to 150 kids at try outs and those teams never have great B teams with the exception of the Cudas but those kids were found and put on the team after try outs. The good kids that are put on Icon B will just reject it and go back to the team they played on the year before or find another team. Should be interesting if the A team has many changes given the talent that people say was there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Icon 2021 try out is a disaster

Couldn't be further from the truth in the 2021 division. They're gonna come out with two solid teams in that age group. A lot of talent there tonight

A lot of kids at Icon 2021, a lot of talent. Don't know how much they could see, from that try out format. Plus, many of the kids had duplicate #'s.

I brought my son down last minute. Local tryout and reasonable price. You could tell who their A team players were and that says a lot about their coaching. I liked how those boys were in the mix with everyone else. They didn't have their team out there and rotate spots to tryout. All were in the mix.

A "B" team coached by PM is better than most A teams have to offer

Nice and up and coming program. Are you kidding. Where are they getting players from, the hot bed of lacrosse Bellmore/Merrick.

PM just got head coach Adelphi Girls program. Do you really think he's coaching a boys 2021 'B" summer travel team.

i heard there were not many kids who came to jesters tryouts 2021 over the weekend. is that true? and if its true, is there a reason why this happened? thank you.

PM is coaching the 2021 "B" team. There was so much talent that this will be a strong B team. College lax ends in May. He has the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PM just got head coach Adelphi Girls program. Do you really think he's coaching a boys 2021 'B" summer travel team.

Of course he is it's his program

PM is def coaching the 2021 team. Who are you to assume he is not? And anyone who would not take a spot on PM's (B) team well, that is their loss. PM is not there for only championships he is there to teach the game of Lacrosse. It is the lesson that ICON is there to teach the kids and unfortunately have to teach the parents too. This is 6th Grade lacrosse crazy people. I usually don't read the garbage on this site because you guys are nothing but parents trying to live through your children and think that 6th grade boys lacrosse is the end all be all. Get a life man! Wish you would man up and post your name on here so we could see who knows what PM is doing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i heard there were not many kids who came to jesters tryouts 2021 over the weekend. is that true? and if its true, is there a reason why this happened? thank you.

A lot of them were at Icon.

So sick of the same loser parents trashing all the clubs on here. We know who you are, the parent who hops your kid club to club year after year because your son doesn't start or isn't the superstar of the team. The parent who calls, texts, emails the coaches trying to get an edge. Grow up and let your kids play.

Has there Been a deal that the Jesters kids are joining Icon?? I know a bunch are going to the Tomahawks. Jesters had a good team last year. Why would they want to split up in diferent directions? If they want to leave the Jesters for what ever the reasons are they should all go to one place. That team should stay together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i heard there were not many kids who came to jesters tryouts 2021 over the weekend. is that true? and if its true, is there a reason why this happened? thank you.

A lot of them were at Icon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has there Been a deal that the Jesters kids are joining Icon?? I know a bunch are going to the Tomahawks. Jesters had a good team last year. Why would they want to split up in diferent directions? If they want to leave the Jesters for what ever the reasons are they should all go to one place. That team should stay together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]i heard there were not many kids who came to jesters tryouts 2021 over the weekend. is that true? and if its true, is there a reason why this happened? thank you.

A lot of them were at Icon.

Players at all ages except 2018 are leaving the Jesters.
The 2023 coach just left the group also.

Let me put the jealous and uninformed parents to rest. As an Icon Parent I can honestly tell you Icon only wants to train the kids to play better and love the game. Pat McCabe John Deto enough said !
No other organization represents themselves with such class and experience as Icon. Start the debate in 3.2,1,
Igloo and the rest of the pat themselves on the back 6 grade champion crowd can watch as icon kids develope with smiles on their faces.
Have a great summer 2015 we will!
P. S . All icon kids get equal playing time not win at all costs like others. You know who you are. Karma my friends

My son is not on Icon but on another "A" team for 2021. Icon Does it for $1300. We should all hope they succeed and grow faster than Igloo at $3500. If my son ever changes teams he will tryout for Icon for the reasons this parent states and the price. At 1300 you can argue it is about the kids at 3500 it is all about the money. Good luck to Icon I hope they grow big and strong and keep the prices down when they are on top!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me put the jealous and uninformed parents to rest. As an Icon Parent I can honestly tell you Icon only wants to train the kids to play better and love the game. Pat McCabe John Deto enough said !
No other organization represents themselves with such class and experience as Icon. Start the debate in 3.2,1,
Igloo and the rest of the pat themselves on the back 6 grade champion crowd can watch as icon kids develope with smiles on their faces.
Have a great summer 2015 we will!
P. S . All icon kids get equal playing time not win at all costs like others. You know who you are. Karma my friends

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is not on Icon but on another "A" team for 2021. Icon Does it for $1300. We should all hope they succeed and grow faster than Igloo at $3500. If my son ever changes teams he will tryout for Icon for the reasons this parent states and the price. At 1300 you can argue it is about the kids at 3500 it is all about the money. Good luck to Icon I hope they grow big and strong and keep the prices down when they are on top!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me put the jealous and uninformed parents to rest. As an Icon Parent I can honestly tell you Icon only wants to train the kids to play better and love the game. Pat McCabe John Deto enough said !
No other organization represents themselves with such class and experience as Icon. Start the debate in 3.2,1,
Igloo and the rest of the pat themselves on the back 6 grade champion crowd can watch as icon kids develope with smiles on their faces.
Have a great summer 2015 we will!
P. S . All icon kids get equal playing time not win at all costs like others. You know who you are. Karma my friends

I'm not sure equal playing time is the answer to a good program. Why shouldn't the kids who work hard and improve be able to earn more playing time. Why in a close game would you not want best players on the field ? One goal game , you want your team to put someone in because "it's their turn" vs they give team beat opportunity to win? These kids are going soon to JR HS where there are tryouts , cuts and no one cares if the parents complain about playing time. I would be an advocate for "fair" playing time. Equal, sounds like a non competitive approach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is not on Icon but on another "A" team for 2021. Icon Does it for $1300. We should all hope they succeed and grow faster than Igloo at $3500. If my son ever changes teams he will tryout for Icon for the reasons this parent states and the price. At 1300 you can argue it is about the kids at 3500 it is all about the money. Good luck to Icon I hope they grow big and strong and keep the prices down when they are on top!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me put the jealous and uninformed parents to rest. As an Icon Parent I can honestly tell you Icon only wants to train the kids to play better and love the game. Pat McCabe John Deto enough said !
No other organization represents themselves with such class and experience as Icon. Start the debate in 3.2,1,
Igloo and the rest of the pat themselves on the back 6 grade champion crowd can watch as icon kids develope with smiles on their faces.
Have a great summer 2015 we will!
P. S . All icon kids get equal playing time not win at all costs like others. You know who you are. Karma my friends

I'm not sure equal playing time is the answer to a good program. Why shouldn't the kids who work hard and improve be able to earn more playing time. Why in a close game would you not want best players on the field ? One goal game , you want your team to put someone in because "it's their turn" vs they give team beat opportunity to win? These kids are going soon to JR HS where there are tryouts , cuts and no one cares if the parents complain about playing time. I would be an advocate for "fair" playing time. Equal, sounds like a non competitive approach.

You sound like someone who has never seen a middle school lacrosse game. The land of 5 quarters and an a team and b team format. Cuts not to be competitive but merely to keep the # of players manageable. Many times the size of the team is limited only by the number of Jerseys.
School ball is FAR less competitive than travel. Dont make it sound like you need to prepare the kids for the cold hard world because school will keep the kids who just decided that he wants to try a new sport and he will get equal time in some cases to your junior Rabil.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has there Been a deal that the Jesters kids are joining Icon?? I know a bunch are going to the Tomahawks. Jesters had a good team last year. Why would they want to split up in diferent directions? If they want to leave the Jesters for what ever the reasons are they should all go to one place. That team should stay together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]i heard there were not many kids who came to jesters tryouts 2021 over the weekend. is that true? and if its true, is there a reason why this happened? thank you.

A lot of them were at Icon.

Players at all ages except 2018 are leaving the Jesters.
The 2023 coach just left the group also.

Players from every organization are leaving at every team!! That is how this works. Kids from the best and worst teams will always try and put themselves in a better personal position. This is why there is 40 travel teams and not 2!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is not on Icon but on another "A" team for 2021. Icon Does it for $1300. We should all hope they succeed and grow faster than Igloo at $3500. If my son ever changes teams he will tryout for Icon for the reasons this parent states and the price. At 1300 you can argue it is about the kids at 3500 it is all about the money. Good luck to Icon I hope they grow big and strong and keep the prices down when they are on top!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me put the jealous and uninformed parents to rest. As an Icon Parent I can honestly tell you Icon only wants to train the kids to play better and love the game. Pat McCabe John Deto enough said !
No other organization represents themselves with such class and experience as Icon. Start the debate in 3.2,1,
Igloo and the rest of the pat themselves on the back 6 grade champion crowd can watch as icon kids develope with smiles on their faces.
Have a great summer 2015 we will!
P. S . All icon kids get equal playing time not win at all costs like others. You know who you are. Karma my friends

I'm not sure equal playing time is the answer to a good program. Why shouldn't the kids who work hard and improve be able to earn more playing time. Why in a close game would you not want best players on the field ? One goal game , you want your team to put someone in because "it's their turn" vs they give team beat opportunity to win? These kids are going soon to JR HS where there are tryouts , cuts and no one cares if the parents complain about playing time. I would be an advocate for "fair" playing time. Equal, sounds like a non competitive approach.

You sound like someone who has never seen a middle school lacrosse game. The land of 5 quarters and an a team and b team format. Cuts not to be competitive but merely to keep the # of players manageable. Many times the size of the team is limited only by the number of Jerseys.
School ball is FAR less competitive than travel. Dont make it sound like you need to prepare the kids for the cold hard world because school will keep the kids who just decided that he wants to try a new sport and he will get equal time in some cases to your junior Rabil.

Sounds like you do not live in a town that plays in the competitive JR HS league. Because the one with Massapequa, Wantagh, GC, Manhasset etc... was!! If they do not have enough jerseys and the games are as you describe you should opt out, complain or move! Does not change the fact that travel sports is not equal time. Why would anyone try and work hard to train and improve if you just wait your turn to get in a game?

This is the problem with parents today. Your kid should be handed something instead of working and actually earning it. That is a selling point for a team!!

Pathetic!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is not on Icon but on another "A" team for 2021. Icon Does it for $1300. We should all hope they succeed and grow faster than Igloo at $3500. If my son ever changes teams he will tryout for Icon for the reasons this parent states and the price. At 1300 you can argue it is about the kids at 3500 it is all about the money. Good luck to Icon I hope they grow big and strong and keep the prices down when they are on top!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me put the jealous and uninformed parents to rest. As an Icon Parent I can honestly tell you Icon only wants to train the kids to play better and love the game. Pat McCabe John Deto enough said !
No other organization represents themselves with such class and experience as Icon. Start the debate in 3.2,1,
Igloo and the rest of the pat themselves on the back 6 grade champion crowd can watch as icon kids develope with smiles on their faces.
Have a great summer 2015 we will!
P. S . All icon kids get equal playing time not win at all costs like others. You know who you are. Karma my friends

I'm not sure equal playing time is the answer to a good program. Why shouldn't the kids who work hard and improve be able to earn more playing time. Why in a close game would you not want best players on the field ? One goal game , you want your team to put someone in because "it's their turn" vs they give team beat opportunity to win? These kids are going soon to JR HS where there are tryouts , cuts and no one cares if the parents complain about playing time. I would be an advocate for "fair" playing time. Equal, sounds like a non competitive approach.

You sound like someone who has never seen a middle school lacrosse game. The land of 5 quarters and an a team and b team format. Cuts not to be competitive but merely to keep the # of players manageable. Many times the size of the team is limited only by the number of Jerseys.
School ball is FAR less competitive than travel. Dont make it sound like you need to prepare the kids for the cold hard world because school will keep the kids who just decided that he wants to try a new sport and he will get equal time in some cases to your junior Rabil.

Sounds like you do not live in a town that plays in the competitive JR HS league. Because the one with Massapequa, Wantagh, GC, Manhasset etc... was!! If they do not have enough jerseys and the games are as you describe you should opt out, complain or move! Does not change the fact that travel sports is not equal time. Why would anyone try and work hard to train and improve if you just wait your turn to get in a game?

This is the problem with parents today. Your kid should be handed something instead of working and actually earning it. That is a selling point for a team!!

Pathetic!!

They last few posters obviously missed the point of the email which is fine this is obviously not the program for you, also fine. There's enough programs out there to meets the goals and expectations you have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has there Been a deal that the Jesters kids are joining Icon?? I know a bunch are going to the Tomahawks. Jesters had a good team last year. Why would they want to split up in diferent directions? If they want to leave the Jesters for what ever the reasons are they should all go to one place. That team should stay together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]i heard there were not many kids who came to jesters tryouts 2021 over the weekend. is that true? and if its true, is there a reason why this happened? thank you.

A lot of them were at Icon.

Players at all ages except 2018 are leaving the Jesters.
The 2023 coach just left the group also.

Players from every organization are leaving at every team!! That is how this works. Kids from the best and worst teams will always try and put themselves in a better personal position. This is why there is 40 travel teams and not 2!

Not like they are leaving this train wreck.

Because in school you dont pay what ends up being 5 grand. What the heck are you paying for ? Thats why directors lie, people sign on then get pissed. If the Directer said , "hey, your kids barely goig to play" that person wouldnt sign up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is not on Icon but on another "A" team for 2021. Icon Does it for $1300. We should all hope they succeed and grow faster than Igloo at $3500. If my son ever changes teams he will tryout for Icon for the reasons this parent states and the price. At 1300 you can argue it is about the kids at 3500 it is all about the money. Good luck to Icon I hope they grow big and strong and keep the prices down when they are on top!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me put the jealous and uninformed parents to rest. As an Icon Parent I can honestly tell you Icon only wants to train the kids to play better and love the game. Pat McCabe John Deto enough said !
No other organization represents themselves with such class and experience as Icon. Start the debate in 3.2,1,
Igloo and the rest of the pat themselves on the back 6 grade champion crowd can watch as icon kids develope with smiles on their faces.
Have a great summer 2015 we will!
P. S . All icon kids get equal playing time not win at all costs like others. You know who you are. Karma my friends

I'm not sure equal playing time is the answer to a good program. Why shouldn't the kids who work hard and improve be able to earn more playing time. Why in a close game would you not want best players on the field ? One goal game , you want your team to put someone in because "it's their turn" vs they give team beat opportunity to win? These kids are going soon to JR HS where there are tryouts , cuts and no one cares if the parents complain about playing time. I would be an advocate for "fair" playing time. Equal, sounds like a non competitive approach.

You sound like someone who has never seen a middle school lacrosse game. The land of 5 quarters and an a team and b team format. Cuts not to be competitive but merely to keep the # of players manageable. Many times the size of the team is limited only by the number of Jerseys.
School ball is FAR less competitive than travel. Dont make it sound like you need to prepare the kids for the cold hard world because school will keep the kids who just decided that he wants to try a new sport and he will get equal time in some cases to your junior Rabil.

Sounds like you do not live in a town that plays in the competitive JR HS league. Because the one with Massapequa, Wantagh, GC, Manhasset etc... was!! If they do not have enough jerseys and the games are as you describe you should opt out, complain or move! Does not change the fact that travel sports is not equal time. Why would anyone try and work hard to train and improve if you just wait your turn to get in a game?

This is the problem with parents today. Your kid should be handed something instead of working and actually earning it. That is a selling point for a team!!

Pathetic!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has there Been a deal that the Jesters kids are joining Icon?? I know a bunch are going to the Tomahawks. Jesters had a good team last year. Why would they want to split up in diferent directions? If they want to leave the Jesters for what ever the reasons are they should all go to one place. That team should stay together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]i heard there were not many kids who came to jesters tryouts 2021 over the weekend. is that true? and if its true, is there a reason why this happened? thank you.

A lot of them were at Icon.

Players at all ages except 2018 are leaving the Jesters.
The 2023 coach just left the group also.

Players from every organization are leaving at every team!! That is how this works. Kids from the best and worst teams will always try and put themselves in a better personal position. This is why there is 40 travel teams and not 2!

Not like they are leaving this train wreck.

Do you have a personal experience here? My son is a 2018 and been here since 5th grade. Can't say enough positive things about experience. No longer even try out for other teams.

What 2021 teams are going to Dicks?

2021 Long Island bengals have their first round of tryouts this weekend. Seems like a great place to go if you have no team yet. Run by educators and varsity coaches. I know a few kids trying out and they are not from the Bellmore Merrick area. Seems this organization is trying to do it the right way

what level team is the bengals? a, b, something else? where do they have their practices?

Not varsity coaches. They quit on the HS team.

JR HS stinks. That person had it correct. If your team goes undefeated means nothing. If they don't win a game means nothing. No playoffs. Varsity is the only HS school sports that you play for conference champs,county champs,LI champs,
then state champs. Get a clue.

what 2021 teams are headed to Columbus Day Invitational in EI

I am not sure who is going but I would assume that a schedule should come out by the end of the week. Is this a new tournament? At least it will not be freezing.

Is there a website for this tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what 2021 teams are headed to Columbus Day Invitational in EI

Your kidding me right ? It's about 10 hours north of long island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what 2021 teams are headed to Columbus Day Invitational in EI

Your kidding me right ? It's about 10 hours north of long island.

Last time I checked East Islip was about 30 minutes away from me.

Isnt EI=East Islip? Was unaware it was moved to Canada.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isnt EI=East Islip? Was unaware it was moved to Canada.

It was part of the new common core geography

Canada is Beautiful. EI, not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isnt EI=East Islip? Was unaware it was moved to Canada.

Hey jack off, i believe it is in Ellison Park, which is in Rochester. Not EI for east islip). Eh !

stupid long islanders think that [lacrosse] little island is the center of the universe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

stupid long islanders think that [lacrosse] little island is the center of the universe.

Not the whole universe, just the lacrosse universe!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isnt EI=East Islip? Was unaware it was moved to Canada.

Hey jack off, i believe it is in Ellison Park, which is in Rochester. Not EI for east islip). Eh !

I believe that you are right and we should meet you in Canada, you first. Lol = Lots of love.

It's the Columbus Day invitational in east Islip!
Not Rochester, not Canada! Good ole Long Island.

anyone know where to find a schedule for this tourney?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's the Columbus Day invitational in east Islip!
Not Rochester, not Canada! Good ole Long Island.

Haven't seen 1 thing about this tourney in east islip. Is it a secret ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's the Columbus Day invitational in east Islip!
Not Rochester, not Canada! Good ole Long Island.

Haven't seen 1 thing about this tourney in east islip. Is it a secret ?

Its the Columbus Day Invitational - the operative word there is Invitational

Hey "AA" teams, how did that work out for ya?

Hey Legacy, Thanks for a good day of lacrosse. Not a Legacy parent.

Top teams aside, how many teams have mixed grade teams (e.g., 5th and 6th grade)? Are there just too many teams? Can these teams play in Graduation Year Based Tournaments?

How did the second Igloo 2021 team do today in NJ?

Heard the NJ teams were very weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the second Igloo 2021 team do today in NJ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard the NJ teams were very weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the second Igloo 2021 team do today in NJ?

of course you did, from who?

Igloo parent. 7-0 in half a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard the NJ teams were very weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the second Igloo 2021 team do today in NJ?

of course you did, from who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo parent. 7-0 in half a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard the NJ teams were very weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the second Igloo 2021 team do today in NJ?

of course you did, from who?

That's a little inflated...but that's no surprise

You are right was actually 6-0. Other team did not have one shot on goal...haters gonna hate!

It's very early and the team is still coming together

Congratulations to the 2019 Long Island Express North team for playing so well and winning the last two tournaments they entered. Our coaches have created a wonderful environment of team play that the kids are really enjoying.

My son is really looking forward to the next tournament and practices!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the 2019 Long Island Express North team for playing so well and winning the last two tournaments they entered. Our coaches have created a wonderful environment of team play that the kids are really enjoying.

My son is really looking forward to the next tournament and practices!

What were they playing 2021 kids or are you on the wrong page?

Where are teams this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the 2019 Long Island Express North team for playing so well and winning the last two tournaments they entered. Our coaches have created a wonderful environment of team play that the kids are really enjoying.

My son is really looking forward to the next tournament and practices!

Wow a positive post

I apologize, I was congratulating the 2021 team. he kids had a great time and each games was very competitive and the outcome could have gone either way.

Again, thanks to our fantastic coaches who in only a few weeks have these boys playing like a team, not a group of kids on the field together.

The 2021 Long Island Express North team (and maybe all of their teams) will be playing in a tournament on Long Island next weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2021 Long Island Express North team (and maybe all of their teams) will be playing in a tournament on Long Island next weekend.

fl$ 2021 went 3-0 at Yale today. The team has practiced since Halloween Havoc and will be a force this year. Beware!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 went 3-0 at Yale today. The team has practiced since Halloween Havoc and will be a force this year. Beware!

Who'd they play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 went 3-0 at Yale today. The team has practiced since Halloween Havoc and will be a force this year. Beware!

Smash....enough said

fl$ 2021 beat Smash?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 went 3-0 at Yale today. The team has practiced since Halloween Havoc and will be a force this year. Beware!

Smash....enough said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 beat Smash?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 went 3-0 at Yale today. The team has practiced since Halloween Havoc and will be a force this year. Beware!

Smash....enough said

No, fl$ did not play Smash today.

I hope 2021 fl$ can Succeed. I think it is a great program. I am still wondering why many of the good players from last year left and did not try out this year. Those kids all went to and are on some strong teams like Legacy Blue Knights, Express Wolves, Express Cudas, 91 Orange, Outlaws Black, Saits (Wildkatz) and Igloo. Does anyone know what happened to make these kids leave without even going back for a try out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 beat Smash?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 went 3-0 at Yale today. The team has practiced since Halloween Havoc and will be a force this year. Beware!

Smash....enough said

No, fl$ did not play Smash today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 beat Smash?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ 2021 went 3-0 at Yale today. The team has practiced since Halloween Havoc and will be a force this year. Beware!

Smash....enough said

No, fl$ did not play Smash today.

No kidding Smash went 4-0 and won the championship. I suppose I should say congratulations on going 3-0 and not making the championship.

So who did Smash play in the championship? They should have played 2021 Orange.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who did Smash play in the championship? They should have played 2021 Orange.

The Yale tournament was not set up to have championship games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who did Smash play in the championship? They should have played 2021 Orange.

How did 2021 Orange do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who did Smash play in the championship? They should have played 2021 Orange.

How did 2021 Orange do?

They won all their games and should have played smash in the finals but in typical 91 fashion they would not allow them to play each other and put them in the 2 v 2 game and they won.

Played 2021 white 2 years ago and 91 had no problem putting Smash against our kids. They proceeded to destroy our kids and run up the score. Then the sweet parents of Smash were walking away saying the White team had no business being on the field with them, right in front of the kids. 3 of the kids walked away crying. Glad we left 91 when we did.

The 2021 LI Express North team will be playing in the Blatant tournament on Sunday. Hoping for great weather, safe and fun lacrosse--I want to see lots of laughing on Sunday. To whomever is going, enjoy the last games of the season.

Any good places to eat in Huntington Station?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2021 LI Express North team will be playing in the Blatant tournament on Sunday. Hoping for great weather, safe and fun lacrosse--I want to see lots of laughing on Sunday. To whomever is going, enjoy the last games of the season.

Any good places to eat in Huntington Station?

Hit Main Street in Huntington when you're done. Continue going North for less than 5 minutes on Oakwood Road into town. Huntington is a great town and has lots of choices of restaurants. Don't go into the 'station' area or by the malls, Main Street has all you need and once you get a parking spot, it's all walkable.

Go to Rt 110 many places to eat. It is a busy area. Have fun there. It will be a great day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2021 LI Express North team will be playing in the Blatant tournament on Sunday. Hoping for great weather, safe and fun lacrosse--I want to see lots of laughing on Sunday. To whomever is going, enjoy the last games of the season.

Any good places to eat in Huntington Station?

Agreed on dining advice. Avoid Jericho and 110 and the Station. Mulititude of options in Huntington village--pizza, burgers, brick over, sandwich, pubs, etc.

Finnegans and Meehans on the pub front. Little vincents or portot fino for pizza.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed on dining advice. Avoid Jericho and 110 and the Station. Mulititude of options in Huntington village--pizza, burgers, brick over, sandwich, pubs, etc.

Finnegans and Meehans on the pub front. Little vincents or portot fino for pizza.

The Huntington Village is the way to go.

I have reported this thread for having 5 helpful, positive posts in a row. I know 2021's are the best age group, but this clearly cannot be allowed on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have reported this thread for having 5 helpful, positive posts in a row. I know 2021's are the best age group, but this clearly cannot be allowed on BOTC.

I heard Huntington Village bus boys are in 8th grade but are old enough to be 9th grade prep cooks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have reported this thread for having 5 helpful, positive posts in a row. I know 2021's are the best age group, but this clearly cannot be allowed on BOTC.

2021 the best age group! you must be an idiot. 2026 will kick 2021's butt. They know it to, that is why they keep ducking us at every tournament.
As far as helpful posts go, anyone who has ever been to the area knows that the village is at least 6 minutes up Oakwood road and double that if the train comes through. The best pizza is Rosas so forget that other stuff.

Rosa's too salty! Southdown is the best, go that extra mile down wall street and pass DiRaiom's along the way! For just a slice, Little V's is still the king though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rosa's too salty! Southdown is the best, go that extra mile down wall street and pass DiRaiom's along the way! For just a slice, Little V's is still the king though.

Little V's is greasy. Rosas is sweet. DiRaimo's standard. Southdown okay, but they now have specialty pizzas like the Big Mac and Whopper. Johnny D's is good, but on way out of town. The good stuff is one town over...Jimmy's in Greenlawn.

Don't come to Huntington for pizza. Go to the Mediterranean Snack Bar (not Scorpios), Meehan's, Sapsuckers, Christophers, and many more restaurants in town.

You are not funny at all, actually annoying and stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have reported this thread for having 5 helpful, positive posts in a row. I know 2021's are the best age group, but this clearly cannot be allowed on BOTC.

I heard Huntington Village bus boys are in 8th grade but are old enough to be 9th grade prep cooks

Lmao!

How did the 2021 Legacy teams do this weekend?

Lost all Blantant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the 2021 Legacy teams do this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lost all Blantant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the 2021 Legacy teams do this weekend?

Blue Knights did not play this weekend! The A team was off.

What a battle in the 2021 division at Blatant tournament today.

My sons Long Island Express Westchester team had two overtime games and each was more exciting than the next. Congratulations on winning the tournament boys. All of your parents are very proud of how hard you played. Thank you to our coaches, my son has never played so hard and loves every second of it.

whe did u play?

The 2021's played on Sunday. My son has never had so much fun playing lacrosse and it was freezing cold!

Competition and fun at the Blatant tournament. Thanks again to the LI Express North 2021 coaches, my guy can't wait till we start practicing again. It's wonderful to witness kids come together and be led by such caring, experienced coaches. Keep pushing them to improve and have fun.

It's good to see Mr Rogers kid playing lax, you sound like a barrel of laughts.

This is funny but not called for. Let him be happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's good to see Mr Rogers kid playing lax, you sound like a barrel of laughts.

Totally was going for a laugh, sounds like a nice person.

I am happy. I'm happy I'm not one of these delusional, jaded parents posting endlessly on these forums ripping players, parents, program directors, etc.

Lacrosse is a fun sport, I played it through college and want to pass along that joy to all of my kids as well as those I coach.

I only wish there could be a few more positive posts on this forum because it is a great sport and there are actually some fabulous coaches out there who want to teach the boys to play the right way and also have fun.

There's enough negativity, regarding every facet of the sport represented here, just sharing a good experience we had and look forward to more to come.

As a 2021 parent and coach, it is pretty nice to have this 2021 thread to be much more positive than other BOTC threads.

Are most 2021's going to do some kind of indoor lax this Winter along with normal winter sports like basketball?

I've got a bunch of soft balls and some 3'x3' goals and thought about having games on a basketball court on Sundays. Tried 5v5 and seemed a bit crowded on the court but 4v4 should work. Not sure whether to try and do it this Winter or not.

Saying you were happy was not meant to be used in a derogatory way. Sorry if you took it that way. Your right Express played well on Sunday. Keep it up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am happy. I'm happy I'm not one of these delusional, jaded parents posting endlessly on these forums ripping players, parents, program directors, etc.

Lacrosse is a fun sport, I played it through college and want to pass along that joy to all of my kids as well as those I coach.

I only wish there could be a few more positive posts on this forum because it is a great sport and there are actually some fabulous coaches out there who want to teach the boys to play the right way and also have fun.

There's enough negativity, regarding every facet of the sport represented here, just sharing a good experience we had and look forward to more to come.

What are the options for winter lacrosse (indoor)? I know there are winter leagues but what about training?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are the options for winter lacrosse (indoor)? I know there are winter leagues but what about training?

If you are registered with this website, you should bve receiving approx. 20 emails a day with all the options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are the options for winter lacrosse (indoor)? I know there are winter leagues but what about training?

If you are registered with this website, you should bve receiving approx. 20 emails a day with all the options.

So what choice did you make? And is there any word from Spallina's team?

Rising Sons will take down igloo today @dicks national tournament!!!!!!

Wonder if igloo goalie is going to wear his sisters maxi pads on his shins.

You are a [lacrosse]! That was wrong on so many levels. If I give you a dollar, will you go buy some class?

[quote=Anonymous]Rising Sons will take down igloo today @dicks national tournament!!!!!![/quote

Without your reclassed kids and your 7th graders you stand no chance.

You two idiots did NOT just say those things....did you?

Reclassed? Wrong club. Be happy we have 6 starters missing. #younowhaveachance

And 4 5th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reclassed? Wrong club. Be happy we have 6 starters missing. #younowhaveachance

#youalwaysareadouche
#youlivevicariouslythruyourkid

Rising Sons and Igloo should be a good game this morning.

In the other semi-final, Tampa Tarpons faces Edge Elite. Didn't read much on Tarpons before tournament, but they can run and play solid D. Edge is tough to defend and seems strong at the X, but not sure they can run or defend at the highest level.

Have to predict it's Igloo over Edge in final. Great efforts and play by all the kids. I've seen all play for at least 15 minutes each except Igloo, who has not yet really had a close game on the scoreboard. Edge and Sons won squeakers over Cyclones and Tampa's wins have been close. Sons had a couple close wins over Palm Beach. Some of these non-hotbeds can run and play good lacrosse.

I think the tournament is very well run and has been a ton of fun so far.

If your kids aren't too old, why are you missing 6 starters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reclassed? Wrong club. Be happy we have 6 starters missing. #younowhaveachance

Love the excuses already!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder if igloo goalie is going to wear his sisters maxi pads on his shins.

Are you just a Jealous person or did that goalie take your kid's spot, is that why you would post that comment? I feel sorry for you that you would actually post something like that on this site. You should get some help maybe BOC can start a group therapy clinic for some of the Crazy parents on these sites who keep singling out specific kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons will take down igloo today @dicks national tournament!!!!!!

Think before you post next time. Not even close

Igloo runs the table!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo runs the table!

Congrats to to Tony and the boys. Well done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo runs the table!

Congrats to Igloo. Well done.

Can anyone share scores?

Congrats also to the loser parent who is in Florida but felt compelled to immediately post this for everyone back home to read.....Glad the boys did well, but you have issues.

Yeah, have some self respect.... at least you could have waited until tomorrrow.

Igloo is legit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats also to the loser parent who is in Florida but felt compelled to immediately post this for everyone back home to read.....Glad the boys did well, but you have issues.

I've been following it online on tourneymachine. Yes, I know I have problems. My New Years resolution is to focus less on youth lax

Congrats Tony and the boys of 2021 from All of us back in New [lacrosse]!!!! We are Igloo proud!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats also to the loser parent who is in Florida but felt compelled to immediately post this for everyone back home to read.....Glad the boys did well, but you have issues.

I've been following it online on tourneymachine. Yes, I know I have problems. My New Years resolution is to focus less on youth lax

I do not know why this is such a shock. Last year, people were reporting updates on the Crush/ Express game during the game. Many posts immediately followed the end of the game, more from home then anyone in Florida.

Congrats to another U11 NY team for bringing home the title.

I was able to watch my son live from NY. On Ustreamtv. It is 2015. Way to go Igloo.

Score in the championship game was 8-2 over a team called Edge or something like that from Canada.

If someone would post the score from the semi game v Rising Sons it would be appreciated.

Way to go Igloo and represent LI Lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score in the championship game was 8-2 over a team called Edge or something like that from Canada.

If someone would post the score from the semi game v Rising Sons it would be appreciated.

Way to go Igloo and represent LI Lax.

Go to tourney machine and look up Dicks... Gives every game and score. Don't be so lazy.... I know the scores and you don't! Nah, nah, na na na!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score in the championship game was 8-2 over a team called Edge or something like that from Canada.

If someone would post the score from the semi game v Rising Sons it would be appreciated.

Way to go Igloo and represent LI Lax.

It's all on tourneymachine

Pool play
8-1 vs cannons select
8-0 vs team atlanta
12-0 vs Cherokee extreme
5-1 vs fca Florida

Playoffs
14-1 over team atlanta
12-5 over mad lax national
10-4 over rising sons
9-2 over edge elite (canada)

Sounds like it was great competion, lol you hardly beat Express last summer.

Yes, Team Igloo was at the top level at [lacrosse]'s, but the Rising Sons game was very competitive. At the next level, there were a lot of athletic, quality teams that played a lot of very close games, namely Edge, Cyclones, Palm Beach Revolution and Rising Sons and then, a half level below them, MadLax Nationals, Tampa Tarpons, Cannons Select and FCA South Florida.

To the extent age eligible, I would think Bethesda, Greene Turtle and Annapolis Hawks would have slotted in between Igloo and those other teams and made it a better tournament, but I don't think anyone doubts Igloo has earned the right to be viewed as U11 national champions - good for them.

In any event, it was a very well organized tournament with actual age rules (requiring proof of birth), quality refs, nice fields and and better playing rules (youth rules, 2 TO's per game, time to warm up on field, etc.) . I think most families would call it a pretty fun lacrosse vacation.

Congrats to Igloo. If there is a team that is better than Igloo for 2021 I have not seen such a team. Having said that it appears the long Island "A" teams have played Igloo to closer games than all these teams from many states did. Lower level 2021 "A" teams for Long Island Standards (some say these teams are not "A" but more "A-") such as Team long Island, Legacy and the Cudas played Igloo closer this past October. It would have been nice to see how the top 6 long Island teams would have done against all these other teams from other states that Igloo beat up on. Despite what some people want to believe in other states lacrosse is still strong on Long Island. I hope these teams now focus on playing the other top Long Island teams this Summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score in the championship game was 8-2 over a team called Edge or something like that from Canada.

If someone would post the score from the semi game v Rising Sons it would be appreciated.

Way to go Igloo and represent LI Lax.

It's all on tourneymachine

Pool play
8-1 vs cannons select
8-0 vs team atlanta
12-0 vs Cherokee extreme
5-1 vs fca Florida

Playoffs
14-1 over team atlanta
12-5 over mad lax national
10-4 over rising sons
9-2 over edge elite (canada)

Sons lost to Igloo 10-4. How was that competitive? No 2021 team is close to Igloo. They should start playing up one year like the 2020 Crush team from Long Island does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score in the championship game was 8-2 over a team called Edge or something like that from Canada.

If someone would post the score from the semi game v Rising Sons it would be appreciated.

Way to go Igloo and represent LI Lax.

The Edge team will win next year. This same team will be registered in the same 2021 division they played in this year. Its the way they run their program and is a damn shame. Also, the teams that were competing in this years 2021 division will be playing this years 2020 Edge team next year...enjoy the win for now.

I am still hunting for the video of the U15 rumble that proceeded the Sons Igloo game. For those of you not there it was quite the circus. If anyone has found it on youtube please share the link.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score in the championship game was 8-2 over a team called Edge or something like that from Canada.

If someone would post the score from the semi game v Rising Sons it would be appreciated.

Way to go Igloo and represent LI Lax.

The Edge team will win next year. This same team will be registered in the same 2021 division they played in this year. Its the way they run their program and is a damn shame. Also, the teams that were competing in this years 2021 division will be playing this years 2020 Edge team next year...enjoy the win for now.

They will be playing all the big 2020 teams if they go- Crush, Terps, Legacy- etc.
edge can't drop their 2019 team to 2020 because there are age restrictions- so Edge 2020 will be playing and their 2021 may be as well. Edge tends to reclass their older teams, for recruiting, but age restrictions stop many teams from qualifying for this tourney. Some people say it's a weak tourney- it may actually show who is really age appropriate, as it leaves out older- held back kids. Maybe we actually see kids playing how they should be for their age level and not a bunch of holdbacks at the top of the bracket.

Congrats to Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am still hunting for the video of the U15 rumble that proceeded the Sons Igloo game. For those of you not there it was quite the circus. If anyone has found it on youtube please share the link.

Do Igloo have a u15 there or was it a type mistake

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am still hunting for the video of the U15 rumble that proceeded the Sons Igloo game. For those of you not there it was quite the circus. If anyone has found it on youtube please share the link.

Canadian native Americans attacked scorekeeper because they lost in overtime. Sweetlax players ejected from tournament for helping including the goalie. Cost them the u15 championship, sad. So much for respect of game!

If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

Beg to differ , 91 2021 Heat will melt Igloo this upcoming season, They added many new players including the Old Igloo goalie, BS has been training this team since the fall and can tell you this is not the team everyone has come to know through the past few years. Heat is as good as Crush minus there FOGO !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons lost to Igloo 10-4. How was that competitive? No 2021 team is close to Igloo. They should start playing up one year like the 2020 Crush team from Long Island does.

OK goalie dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

True but they ducked this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beg to differ , 91 2021 Heat will melt Igloo this upcoming season, They added many new players including the Old Igloo goalie, BS has been training this team since the fall and can tell you this is not the team everyone has come to know through the past few years. Heat is as good as Crush minus there FOGO !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons lost to Igloo 10-4. How was that competitive? No 2021 team is close to Igloo. They should start playing up one year like the 2020 Crush team from Long Island does.

Fellow 91 dad. Please shut your mouth. It's people like you that give the group and bs a bad rap. Just stay low until they actually play some games! Jeez!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beg to differ , 91 2021 Heat will melt Igloo this upcoming season, They added many new players including the Old Igloo goalie, BS has been training this team since the fall and can tell you this is not the team everyone has come to know through the past few years. Heat is as good as Crush minus there FOGO !
Go back to HHH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons lost to Igloo 10-4. How was that competitive? No 2021 team is close to Igloo. They should start playing up one year like the 2020 Crush team from Long Island does.

Yes hear they will be untouchable

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beg to differ , 91 2021 Heat will melt Igloo this upcoming season, They added many new players including the Old Igloo goalie, BS has been training this team since the fall and can tell you this is not the team everyone has come to know through the past few years. Heat is as good as Crush minus there FOGO !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons lost to Igloo 10-4. How was that competitive? No 2021 team is close to Igloo. They should start playing up one year like the 2020 Crush team from Long Island does.

Fellow 91 dad. Please shut your mouth. It's people like you that give the group and bs a bad rap. Just stay low until they actually play some games! Jeez! [/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

True but they ducked this year.

Holy cow, only 51 weeks until the tournament next year and the "the almighty Crush is going to demolish everyone" has already started. Give it a rest. They ducked this year because they lost to the 2019 Rising Sons in the Spring and ever since them they knew they wouldn't win it. So instead of going down and risking it, they stayed on LI.

What other teams at any age play up at all ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

True but they ducked this year.

Holy cow, only 51 weeks until the tournament next year and the "the almighty Crush is going to demolish everyone" has already started. Give it a rest. They ducked this year because they lost to the 2019 Rising Sons in the Spring and ever since them they knew they wouldn't win it. So instead of going down and risking it, they stayed on LI.

The boys actually were invited to 3d blue chip. Way more important!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

True but they ducked this year.

Holy cow, only 51 weeks until the tournament next year and the "the almighty Crush is going to demolish everyone" has already started. Give it a rest. They ducked this year because they lost to the 2019 Rising Sons in the Spring and ever since them they knew they wouldn't win it. So instead of going down and risking it, they stayed on LI.

The boys actually were invited to 3d blue chip. Way more important!

Right. The 7th grade 3d camp isn't that exclusive. Do,you think they will miss the to next year for 3d? Doubtful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

True but they ducked this year.

Holy cow, only 51 weeks until the tournament next year and the "the almighty Crush is going to demolish everyone" has already started. Give it a rest. They ducked this year because they lost to the 2019 Rising Sons in the Spring and ever since them they knew they wouldn't win it. So instead of going down and risking it, they stayed on LI.

The boys actually were invited to 3d blue chip. Way more important!

Invited? Are you kidding? Any 2020 player could attend. Write a check for $525 and your in. Total money grab and a nice way for JS to work on his tan.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

True but they ducked this year.

Holy cow, only 51 weeks until the tournament next year and the "the almighty Crush is going to demolish everyone" has already started. Give it a rest. They ducked this year because they lost to the 2019 Rising Sons in the Spring and ever since them they knew they wouldn't win it. So instead of going down and risking it, they stayed on LI.

The boys actually were invited to 3d blue chip. Way more important!

Invited? Are you kidding? Any 2020 player could attend. Write a check for $525 and your in. Total money grab and a nice way for JS to work on his tan.

That's your opinion and great, just be true to yourself then and don't sign up next year either.

As much as this may hurt you, the boys received personal invites was their with our older son and saw some of the other families from LI . Man the talent of those boys is at a completely different level. The training at that 3d blue chip is high level and very impressive and everyone pays for the 3D blue chip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]If crush decides to play next year, they will win by 20.

True but they ducked this year.

Holy cow, only 51 weeks until the tournament next year and the "the almighty Crush is going to demolish everyone" has already started. Give it a rest. They ducked this year because they lost to the 2019 Rising Sons in the Spring and ever since them they knew they wouldn't win it. So instead of going down and risking it, they stayed

The boys actually were invited to 3d blue chip. Way more important!

1. They could have easily done both and plenty of kids did.
2. Why ANYONE would waste their money on a camp that means absolutely nothing, I don't get it. My son was "invited" too, what a joke

Give met a vvbreak 3d is a joke. All good players know that.

They give a five dollar coupon if you get a friend to go.

It is pretty funny but so many if these bash Crush rants would be so much better if they EVER lost against their own grade level. As much as we would all like to bash, it' has nothing to it

Sons were missing 6 top kids that would have made a difference, maybe not enough but the kids that couldn't come down because of $$ or other obligations are some of the best kids at that age group. Sons will have a full squad March 22nd. Igloo kids and parents were great. Going to be a great rivalry for years to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons lost to Igloo 10-4. How was that competitive? No 2021 team is close to Igloo. They should start playing up one year like the 2020 Crush team from Long Island does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They give a five dollar coupon if you get a friend to go.

Per previous post - then don't go next year

Sons w a FULL team beat Igloo Any team is impacted missing 6 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons w a FULL team beat Igloo Any team is impacted missing 6 kids

The 2021 "sons" as you call them have not beaten any top LI teams to date. How can you make such a ridiculous statement. Please stop with the exscuses. From what I understand, they lost to Igloo, Team LI and 91 in the past. Not sure if they ever played Express?
I keep hearing how "good" this team is but they never seem to win against better clubs and they always have an exscuse?

Yes when you are missing 6 of your 14 year olds from 2021 you are going to lose! The only reason those kids weren't there is the tournament is a legit age-verified tourney that eliminates the cheaters! When you can't cheat -- looks like you can't win.

Nope, every kid of US lacrosse age that missed. 5 kids were 2022's that filled in. See you all March 22nd. After that you can have your way. Sons have no reclassified kids at any level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes when you are missing 6 of your 14 year olds from 2021 you are going to lose! The only reason those kids weren't there is the tournament is a legit age-verified tourney that eliminates the cheaters! When you can't cheat -- looks like you can't win.

So..."Sons" are therefore NOT a true legitimate, competitive 2021 club. That makes sense.

I don't know if they cheat but I rremember they beat Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons w a FULL team beat Igloo Any team is impacted missing 6 kids

The 2021 "sons" as you call them have not beaten any top LI teams to date. How can you make such a ridiculous statement. Please stop with the exscuses. From what I understand, they lost to Igloo, Team LI and 91 in the past. Not sure if they ever played Express?
I keep hearing how "good" this team is but they never seem to win against better clubs and they always have an exscuse?

The Tampa Tampons ? I bet that game got bloody . I heard they start of as mean as [lacrosse] but then calm down when they get into the flow of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, Team Igloo was at the top level at [lacrosse]'s, but the Rising Sons game was very competitive. At the next level, there were a lot of athletic, quality teams that played a lot of very close games, namely Edge, Cyclones, Palm Beach Revolution and Rising Sons and then, a half level below them, MadLax Nationals, Tampa Tarpons, Cannons Select and FCA South Florida.

To the extent age eligible, I would think Bethesda, Greene Turtle and Annapolis Hawks would have slotted in between Igloo and those other teams and made it a better tournament, but I don't think anyone doubts Igloo has earned the right to be viewed as U11 national champions - good for them.

In any event, it was a very well organized tournament with actual age rules (requiring proof of birth), quality refs, nice fields and and better playing rules (youth rules, 2 TO's per game, time to warm up on field, etc.) . I think most families would call it a pretty fun lacrosse vacation.

They will ALL be there March 22 so let's see what happens

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, every kid of US lacrosse age that missed. 5 kids were 2022's that filled in. See you all March 22nd. After that you can have your way. Sons have no reclassified kids at any level.

The Rising Sons most definitly bring down older kids to play in tough games. All ages! Seen it a few times and actully talked to a parent on the sideline that confirmed it. Claimed they were short players that day. They still lost!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, every kid of US lacrosse age that missed. 5 kids were 2022's that filled in. See you all March 22nd. After that you can have your way. Sons have no reclassified kids at any level.

LOL!!! Funniest thing I've heard in awhile. After you lose in march there will be more excuses. I will come back and repost this. So predicable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As much as this may hurt you, the boys received personal invites was their with our older son and saw some of the other families from LI . Man the talent of those boys is at a completely different level. The training at that 3d blue chip is high level and very impressive and everyone pays for the 3D blue chip

3D for a 7th grader(no matter how good you think you are) is a waste of time and moment. The whole country receives a personal invitation to the play in camp. 3D does decent job. Dont think I would say high level?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, every kid of US lacrosse age that missed. 5 kids were 2022's that filled in. See you all March 22nd. After that you can have your way. Sons have no reclassified kids at any level.

The Rising Sons most definitly bring down older kids to play in tough games. All ages! Seen it a few times and actully talked to a parent on the sideline that confirmed it. Claimed they were short players that day. They still lost!

We have played them as well, last year, and beat them. Tough game but it was confirmed that they had older players. Same exscuse....missing players, etc.

Igloo is by far the best. No 2021 team is even close. Yes the Sons did beat Igloo last March by one goal on a day where it was 17 degrees and an early morning game. But that same day the Sons lost to 91 and got crushed by Icon by 7 goals. Those teams have never beat Igloo. Most telling of the talent on the Sons team is that the Sons also played the Jesters ( a Long Island B team) that day and won 7-5. Igloo beat that same Jesters team by 15 goals that same season. Igloo played the Sons again at the end of the Summer and in December and beat up on the Sons. Given the Son's history against Long Island teams they should be compared to(and have never beat any of these teams) 91, Both Express teams, Team Long Island, Icon, Outlaws, Garden City, Legacy and the Igloo 2021 B team. Some of these teams played Igloo closer this past October than the Sons did at the end of last Summer and in Florida. As of now given the last 2 games the sons of played Igloo and never beating another Long Island team other than the Jesters in a nail biter there is no reason to compare the Sons to Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know if they cheat but I rremember they beat Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons w a FULL team beat Igloo Any team is impacted missing 6 kids

The 2021 "sons" as you call them have not beaten any top LI teams to date. How can you make such a ridiculous statement. Please stop with the exscuses. From what I understand, they lost to Igloo, Team LI and 91 in the past. Not sure if they ever played Express?
I keep hearing how "good" this team is but they never seem to win against better clubs and they always have an exscuse?

I agree the sons have a long way to go before they are considered elite. A lot of talk on this board with very little to back it up. Empty promises and guarantees but I guess that mirrors the play on the field also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is by far the best. No 2021 team is even close. Yes the Sons did beat Igloo last March by one goal on a day where it was 17 degrees and an early morning game. But that same day the Sons lost to 91 and got crushed by Icon by 7 goals. Those teams have never beat Igloo. Most telling of the talent on the Sons team is that the Sons also played the Jesters ( a Long Island B team) that day and won 7-5. Igloo beat that same Jesters team by 15 goals that same season. Igloo played the Sons again at the end of the Summer and in December and beat up on the Sons. Given the Son's history against Long Island teams they should be compared to(and have never beat any of these teams) 91, Both Express teams, Team Long Island, Icon, Outlaws, Garden City, Legacy and the Igloo 2021 B team. Some of these teams played Igloo closer this past October than the Sons did at the end of last Summer and in Florida. As of now given the last 2 games the sons of played Igloo and never beating another Long Island team other than the Jesters in a nail biter there is no reason to compare the Sons to Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know if they cheat but I rremember they beat Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons w a FULL team beat Igloo Any team is impacted missing 6 kids

The 2021 "sons" as you call them have not beaten any top LI teams to date. How can you make such a ridiculous statement. Please stop with the exscuses. From what I understand, they lost to Igloo, Team LI and 91 in the past. Not sure if they ever played Express?
I keep hearing how "good" this team is but they never seem to win against better clubs and they always have an exscuse?

Agree that team is not all it is cracked up to be. They have an good attackman and goalie but Igloo has them beat at every other position.

I am not an Igloo parent. I did see the Sons beat the Jesters 7-5 or 6-4 at Shamrock last year. It was a two goal game. Yes the Jesters were and are a "B" team. The Sons were lucky to beat the Jesters that game. The Sons' parents love to point to that one Igloo win and claim they are elite. They forget that they got Crushed by Igloo the other two games they played and got crushed by Icon and beat the Jesters in a "Nail-biter". They have lost to every other Long Island "A" team with no wins. The Sons should play the other Long Island "A" teams this year. If they do well against those teams they can talk about being elite. Until then they are just another average team with parents that talk too much.

Um I think they beat 91 and Crabs also

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not an Igloo parent. I did see the Sons beat the Jesters 7-5 or 6-4 at Shamrock last year. It was a two goal game. Yes the Jesters were and are a "B" team. The Sons were lucky to beat the Jesters that game. The Sons' parents love to point to that one Igloo win and claim they are elite. They forget that they got Crushed by Igloo the other two games they played and got crushed by Icon and beat the Jesters in a "Nail-biter". They have lost to every other Long Island "A" team with no wins. The Sons should play the other Long Island "A" teams this year. If they do well against those teams they can talk about being elite. Until then they are just another average team with parents that talk too much.

I haven't seen the Sons 2021 play any LI teams, but they are a good team. Saw them play at Rutgers this past fall. Maybe they have added some new talent. Who knows? But, I think it's great to see another quality club develop into a contender.
I do agree that they need to beat the best on LI or in Balt/MD before they can boast.

You are correct in saying that. I've seen them play a few times last year and have a friend whose nephew is on the team so I hear bits and pieces. This is their first year that they had a tryout and have definitely picked up a few new players that my friend says are going to make an impact. But as you say in your post they need to back it up.From the looks of it this March 22nd Battle on The Hill should end the discussion of where all these teams stack up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree the sons have a long way to go before they are considered elite. A lot of talk on this board with very little to back it up. Empty promises and guarantees but I guess that mirrors the play on the field also.

There is so much talk of which Club is best at 2021, but there is simply no way to dispute it is Igloo - at the moment - as they beat everyone in the past 12 mos - just a fact. As the Spring approaches and all of the teams mix it up again - it is to be seen whether Igloo stays on top, but no denying they are the Best going into the Spring. March 22nd at the Hill School will be a good preview of the spring/summer for 2021:
It is an invite only event: Igloo, Bethesda, Sons, Crabs, 91, Legacy. These invite only events are the best ones for top teams to attend. Should be a great event. Last time Igloo played Crabs they lost 4-3 and last time they played Bethesda they won 7-6. Hopefully there will be a lot of close games.

Express not Legacy at 2021. Legacy playing in 2020

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is so much talk of which Club is best at 2021, but there is simply no way to dispute it is Igloo - at the moment - as they beat everyone in the past 12 mos - just a fact. As the Spring approaches and all of the teams mix it up again - it is to be seen whether Igloo stays on top, but no denying they are the Best going into the Spring. March 22nd at the Hill School will be a good preview of the spring/summer for 2021:
It is an invite only event: Igloo, Bethesda, Sons, Crabs, 91, Legacy. These invite only events are the best ones for top teams to attend. Should be a great event. Last time Igloo played Crabs they lost 4-3 and last time they played Bethesda they won 7-6. Hopefully there will be a lot of close games.

So: Igloo, Bethesda, Sons, Crab, 91, Express - thats a great Event - the only TOP 2021 Team missing from this is West Coast Starz - which is really an all-star team, but none the less - legit. The definition of TOP - being backward looking of course - and based on the past 12 months. Will be interesting to see if the definition holds when dust settles in Mid July.

This is a great post, and how posts should be. I'm a Igloo parent and can honestly say that the Sons are a very good team. The same can be said about Icon, 91, Legacy and Express. But Bethesda, Crabs and West Coast Stars are great teams too. The 2021 year in my mind has a lot more teams on the same playing field. Should be a great year for competition. The best thing is that no one game or tournament will be able to crown one team the best. Lacrosse is a great sport in that any given day a team can play well, or not so well. So in short everyone lets not focus on who is the best, but by having all the players having fun playing each other and becoming friends. As they have all developed a mutual respect for each other. Now if we can get all the parents to do the same it should be a wonderful and enjoyable summer. Good luck everyone.

Nicely written. I think most of these teams listed here have built relationships based on mutual respect. I see the coaches getting along and the kids. I'm a Rising Sons parent and we love the rivalries our programs are developing. Winning is great but just being able to play great competitive clean lacrosse is a great start. At least for me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a great post, and how posts should be. I'm a Igloo parent and can honestly say that the Sons are a very good team. The same can be said about Icon, 91, Legacy and Express. But Bethesda, Crabs and West Coast Stars are great teams too. The 2021 year in my mind has a lot more teams on the same playing field. Should be a great year for competition. The best thing is that no one game or tournament will be able to crown one team the best. Lacrosse is a great sport in that any given day a team can play well, or not so well. So in short everyone lets not focus on who is the best, but by having all the players having fun playing each other and becoming friends. As they have all developed a mutual respect for each other. Now if we can get all the parents to do the same it should be a wonderful and enjoyable summer. Good luck everyone.

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [lacrosse]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

Anyone ever do the ONE ON ONE Goaltending Academy ( Dynamic Lacrosse) any feedback?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone ever do the ONE ON ONE Goaltending Academy ( Dynamic Lacrosse) any feedback?

Very good...these guys have played the game at the highest levels. And they can teach it too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [lacrosse]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

LOL, You make me laugh [lacrosse], your a funny [lacrosse]. Hey [lacrosse] say something funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [lacrosse]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

I bet you this [lacrosse] is a Long Island guy, am I right [lacrosse]?

Any town indoor games to talk about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [lacrosse]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

I bet you this [lacrosse] is a Long Island guy, am I right [lacrosse]?

Yeah, so what? Let's stay positive you LI wannabe [lacrosse] Bag!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [******].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [******]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

I bet you this [******] is a Long Island guy, am I right [******]?

Yeah, so what? Let's stay positive you LI wannabe [******]!

You crossed the line LI , you labeled me a Wannabe LI. That is cyber bulling. It is one thing to be a but a Wannabe LI is way too far. You keep LI, thank God your an Island. Hey is it true the highest point on LI is the landfill? Just saying.

cant wait for lacrosse to start so there is something to actually talk about. [******] stuff is getting old

Why is 91 not playing in the below?

Rising Sons play day is on
Igloo, Express, Sons, Crabs, Bethesda (2021)

To cold for the "Heat"

Was at the Hub this morning and watched the Outlaws 6th grade team destroy express Barracudas,just curious what happened to that express team from last year? Same coaches but diffetent team . Looks like a developmental pal team . Where are the wolverines ?

They paid for MC to go watch Maryland play this weekend.

Actually they paid to play lax in Maryland this wknd, always all bs talk on this forum, every travel team is all about the money they make at the end of the day, oh and jus Incase you would actually be curious about how express 2021 May be playing they're doing great so far 2-0.....;))ux3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [lacrosse]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

I bet you this [lacrosse] is a Long Island guy, am I right [lacrosse]?

Isn't Rocky Point on Long Island too?

Yea that would sum it up on what happen to the Barracudas, the wolverines finally have talent on the team , thanks to the CUDAS.

And with MC as a coach it should be a great summer.

Was a great day. Great weather great games and express left Maryland 3-0

let's not forget their neghbors. Shoreham Wading River !

quote=The Hop]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [lacrosse]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

I bet you this [lacrosse] is a Long Island guy, am I right [lacrosse]?

Isn't Rocky Point on Long Island too? [/quote]

Please talent igloo will kill them by 10

Haha Igloo doesn't have a shot now Against the Wolves , Hey doesn't igloo have the Barracudas goalie from last year ?
This is comedy.

quote=Anonymous]Please talent igloo will kill them by 10 [/quote]

That's awesome , what was the scores what travel teams you play,?

Who did Express Play in Maryland - anyone good? If did not play Bethesda, Hawks or Crabs - 2021 - did not play anyone.

Not a hard question to answer MR 3 and 0

it was all a figment of their imagination I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the Hub this morning and watched the Outlaws 6th grade team destroy express Barracudas,just curious what happened to that express team from last year? Same coaches but diffetent team . Looks like a developmental pal team . Where are the wolverines ?

Ouch - but it looked like the cudas had six subs on the bench. I was waiting for a field for my son's team and watched several middies never get off. But they were man handled that is for sure.

Battle of the Hill schedule is on the Rising Sons homepage.

http://risingsonslax.com/Default.asp?org=risingsonslax.com

Check out the following navigation for individual team schedules...Teams, Choose a Team, Battle of the Hill, 2021, then pick a team. The schedule is on the bottom right that under Next 10 Events.

91 not listed? Maybe this isn't the final schedule?

91 Heat not going. Don't you follow, earlier post said they were invited but declined. go figure

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Battle of the Hill schedule is on the Rising Sons homepage.

http://risingsonslax.com/Default.asp?org=risingsonslax.com

Check out the following navigation for individual team schedules...Teams, Choose a Team, Battle of the Hill, 2021, then pick a team. The schedule is on the bottom right that under Next 10 Events.

91 not listed? Maybe this isn't the final schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a hard question to answer MR 3 and 0

Club Blue
Building Blocks(don't know who the [lacrosse] that is)
Cannons

Two b team boys gave the wolves talent ?
Why were they on the b team in the first place
If they were so talented?
MC is probably just shutting up some parents
Who are obsessed with being on the a team.

I could guess. That A team was a mess. They used to play all 3 attack all game, It resulted in 4 lines off middys so If you where not on the first line you where barely going to see the field, Now a lot the boys not seeing playing time where very good players. Thet left and where scopped up by other A teams and are now seeing playing time. I saw a few kids last year on the Barricudas that I was surprised to see. I had seen them in PAL for a few years and knew they where very good players. My immediate thought was they had some connection to play fro Express but had no desire to be on the WOlverines. So last year the Barricudas where a weak A team but they certainly had a few kids on that roster that had they moved up they would have helped the Wolves. What going on this year ? WHo knows, half the Wolves where playing on Legacy but staying with the Wolves. Hedging their bets ? Did MC step in and end that fiasco ? I guess we will find out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two b team boys gave the wolves talent ?
Why were they on the b team in the first place
If they were so talented?
MC is probably just shutting up some parents
Who are obsessed with being on the a team.

Is Building Blocks the club that goes by BBL. they are a New jersey club. Think I saw them at Patriot games a few years back. Not a bad club. not sure of the 2021 team.

Is Building Blocks the club that goes by BBL. they are a New jersey club. Think I saw them at Patriot games a few years back. Not a bad club. not sure of the 2021 team.

Yes

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Greene Turtle and Hawks also have strong 2021 teams that can compete at that level, imo. Both beat Crabs this Fall and GT got up pretty big on Bethesda before a nice comeback in a championship this Summer. I don't think either has a faceoff guy like Igloo though.

Per prior comments, it certainly would be nice if this thread could stay largely positive.

Fat chance loser, let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!

So the guy who wants to keep it positive is a loser? You are the epitome of a [lacrosse].

Yeah, so what? I'm a [lacrosse]. You know that is not a very positive thing to say. Loser 2!

I bet you this [lacrosse] is a Long Island guy, am I right [lacrosse]?

Isn't Rocky Point on Long Island too?

I believe it is, you suddenly feel the need to jump into a 2 month old conservation?

I watched the first ten minutes of the game. The Outlaws jumped out to a huge lead and I guess based on what is being said here they never looked back. The Barracuda's talent looked the same as last year. They will still be a top 5 team this year in 2021. Express should feel lucky they have two "A" teams. Instead there is uncalled for fighting within the organization. They better fix this situation soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the Hub this morning and watched the Outlaws 6th grade team destroy express Barracudas,just curious what happened to that express team from last year? Same coaches but diffetent team . Looks like a developmental pal team . Where are the wolverines ?

Ouch - but it looked like the cudas had six subs on the bench. I was waiting for a field for my son's team and watched several middies never get off. But they were man handled that is for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched the first ten minutes of the game. The Outlaws jumped out to a huge lead and I guess based on what is being said here they never looked back. The Barracuda's talent looked the same as last year. They will still be a top 5 team this year in 2021. Express should feel lucky they have two "A" teams. Instead there is uncalled for fighting within the organization. They better fix this situation soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the Hub this morning and watched the Outlaws 6th grade team destroy express Barracudas,just curious what happened to that express team from last year? Same coaches but diffetent team . Looks like a developmental pal team . Where are the wolverines ?

Ouch - but it looked like the cudas had six subs on the bench. I was waiting for a field for my son's team and watched several middies never get off. But they were man handled that is for sure.

Its indoor lacrosse and a 2-3-2 setup as everyone knows its training and preparation for the real season

LMFAO top 5 ??? Cuda team does not have the same roster as last season. All those top players fled to Igloo and 91 , they are barely a Top 5 in B bracket , whoever made the top 5 statement clearly is living in the past. Word has it 5-6 players from that team have been seen practicing with another travel club, so what does that tell you ?

quote=Anonymous]I watched the first ten minutes of the game. The Outlaws jumped out to a huge lead and I guess based on what is being said here they never looked back. The Barracuda's talent looked the same as last year. They will still be a top 5 team this year in 2021. Express should feel lucky they have two "A" teams. Instead there is uncalled for fighting within the organization. They better fix this situation soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the Hub this morning and watched the Outlaws 6th grade team destroy express Barracudas,just curious what happened to that express team from last year? Same coaches but diffetent team . Looks like a developmental pal team . Where are the wolverines ?

Ouch - but it looked like the cudas had six subs on the bench. I was waiting for a field for my son's team and watched several middies never get off. But they were man handled that is for sure.

[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LMFAO top 5 ??? Cuda team does not have the same roster as last season. All those top players fled to Igloo and 91 , they are barely a Top 5 in B bracket , whoever made the top 5 statement clearly is living in the past. Word has it 5-6 players from that team have been seen practicing with another travel club, so what does that tell you ?

quote=Anonymous]I watched the first ten minutes of the game. The Outlaws jumped out to a huge lead and I guess based on what is being said here they never looked back. The Barracuda's talent looked the same as last year. They will still be a top 5 team this year in 2021. Express should feel lucky they have two "A" teams. Instead there is uncalled for fighting within the organization. They better fix this situation soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the Hub this morning and watched the Outlaws 6th grade team destroy express Barracudas,just curious what happened to that express team from last year? Same coaches but diffetent team . Looks like a developmental pal team . Where are the wolverines ?

they r in maryland

Ouch - but it looked like the cudas had six subs on the bench. I was waiting for a field for my son's team and watched several middies never get off. But they were man handled that is for sure.

[/quote]

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LMFAO top 5 ??? Cuda team does not have the same roster as last season. All those top players fled to Igloo and 91 , they are barely a Top 5 in B bracket , whoever made the top 5 statement clearly is living in the past. Word has it 5-6 players from that team have been seen practicing with another travel club, so what does that tell you ?

quote=Anonymous]I watched the first ten minutes of the game. The Outlaws jumped out to a huge lead and I guess based on what is being said here they never looked back. The Barracuda's talent looked the same as last year. They will still be a top 5 team this year in 2021. Express should feel lucky they have two "A" teams. Instead there is uncalled for fighting within the organization. They better fix this situation soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the Hub this morning and watched the Outlaws 6th grade team destroy express Barracudas,just curious what happened to that express team from last year? Same coaches but diffetent team . Looks like a developmental pal team . Where are the wolverines ?

they r in maryland

Ouch - but it looked like the cudas had six subs on the bench. I was waiting for a field for my son's team and watched several middies never get off. But they were man handled that is for sure.

[/quote]

why do I get the feeling you are happy about kids getting manhandled. You were just minding your business waiting for your kid to play. But jumped on here to pounce on 11 year olds. Right.

Who said anything about the Wolves?
As far as the coaches doing a great job , should sure hope so being MC runs express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

+1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

What coaches.
NCC coach was supposed to take over the team and then heard he is not involved.
Is Berry still coaching the wolves? Or have they changed it up?

The Wolves are a very good team. I think everyone would agree. They are not a top team YET. They are not deep enough to be a top team. I have seen them play. They rely way too much on the great goalie they have who has to make way too many quality saves to win games. They have a great faceoff guy and a couple of other great players. The rest of the team are decent to good players. With all the stuff that went on last year and all the Express kids at all the other teams tryouts people will question what is going on over there. This is especially so when a bunch of Wolves (the better players on the team) are also playing for Legacy. People do have "a clue" of what the Wolves are. Maybe if the Wolves players stop playing for other teams and the internal team conflicts stop people won't question them here and they may find some more quality kids to fill those spots that they are still trying to fill at this late date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

CHANNY is the head coach of the wolves so he has pulled a few kids from all angles to give him a solid team to work with .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

What coaches.
NCC coach was supposed to take over the team and then heard he is not involved.
Is Berry still coaching the wolves? Or have they changed it up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Wolves are a very good team. I think everyone would agree. They are not a top team YET. They are not deep enough to be a top team. I have seen them play. They rely way too much on the great goalie they have who has to make way too many quality saves to win games. They have a great faceoff guy and a couple of other great players. The rest of the team are decent to good players. With all the stuff that went on last year and all the Express kids at all the other teams tryouts people will question what is going on over there. This is especially so when a bunch of Wolves (the better players on the team) are also playing for Legacy. People do have "a clue" of what the Wolves are. Maybe if the Wolves players stop playing for other teams and the internal team conflicts stop people won't question them here and they may find some more quality kids to fill those spots that they are still trying to fill at this late date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

Be careful! Singling out your goalie and face off kid will surely open them up to harsh words and they didn't post here you did. Not right to do to 6th graders. Just saying...Be careful.

The post was not negative. It just states they are great players. It is a positive post for those kids. Many have said this in the past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Wolves are a very good team. I think everyone would agree. They are not a top team YET. They are not deep enough to be a top team. I have seen them play. They rely way too much on the great goalie they have who has to make way too many quality saves to win games. They have a great faceoff guy and a couple of other great players. The rest of the team are decent to good players. With all the stuff that went on last year and all the Express kids at all the other teams tryouts people will question what is going on over there. This is especially so when a bunch of Wolves (the better players on the team) are also playing for Legacy. People do have "a clue" of what the Wolves are. Maybe if the Wolves players stop playing for other teams and the internal team conflicts stop people won't question them here and they may find some more quality kids to fill those spots that they are still trying to fill at this late date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

Be careful! Singling out your goalie and face off kid will surely open them up to harsh words and they didn't post here you did. Not right to do to 6th graders. Just saying...Be careful.

Indoor is really no measure of what a team will do on a full field we all know that. Not an express parent, son plays for ICON who do it right with just skills indoor training. Comments hold for full field. Seen Outlaws play last year and the team didn't turn over that much - they are an avg to good team, not competing with top teams this year. Who know what Express team showed up but the that teams wasn't a top flight team last year either.

The bottom line with all this being said is all teams have positives and negatives. One thing for sure is that there is a lot of talent in 2021. Enough for about 6 to 8 A teams. The B teams also have a lot of talent and have kids that would easily make A teams. That is a lot of top talent. The parents and kids can't wait for the season to start and the kids to get outside. I think all these teams will play each other several times and win some and loose some against each other. Not sure if one team will sweep all the other teams. But either way it will be a fun season. I wish everyone well for the fun year our kids are about to have!

great play day next weekend. Crabs, LI Express and Rising Sons playing each other. Should be interesting.

Please keep your positive/ mature comments off this site,lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line with all this being said is all teams have positives and negatives. One thing for sure is that there is a lot of talent in 2021. Enough for about 6 to 8 A teams. The B teams also have a lot of talent and have kids that would easily make A teams. That is a lot of top talent. The parents and kids can't wait for the season to start and the kids to get outside. I think all these teams will play each other several times and win some and loose some against each other. Not sure if one team will sweep all the other teams. But either way it will be a fun season. I wish everyone well for the fun year our kids are about to have!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

great play day next weekend. Crabs, LI Express and Rising Sons playing each other. Should be interesting.

And Igloo playing Sons, Bethesda and Crabs

There is no internal conflict. That's a joke. All players are loyal to one team. U really have no idea. And they are deep. I think 21 players being sub in and out without missing a step is a bunch of pretty good players. Once again come and watch. Sorry no spots available.

Not according to Channy looking for d man

Originally Posted by Anonymous

great play day next weekend. Crabs, LI Express and Rising Sons playing each other. Should be interesting.

And Igloo playing Sons, Bethesda and Crabs

Bring it home Long Island!

How are the coaches kids from last year doing? Still staring and playing the whole game,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not according to Channy looking for d man

The only thing Channy's looking for is more kids to try out at $100 a pop when the teams are already filled.

do you think that mc would play
Everyone equal if it ment the win?
These clubs are about the win.
Some kids are happy playing sometimes
Being on the A. Others would rather
Play more and be on the B.
It's what ever makes your kid happy.

maybe the parents should learn from the kids.
Most kids have friends on different teams
And play hard against each other everyone wants a win.
But I also see them walking to the car telling each other
Good game.

If your not happy try another team.
Why would you stay and complain ?
If you did move on are you that bitter your still
Stuck on it a year later?

I bet Igloo goes 3-0 next weekend. They have yet to be beaten, and don't expect that to happen next weekend. Just waiting for the excuses to start flowing in.........

Maybe they get playing time now. But like I said, a few years ago that was not the case . They played the same 3 kids at attack all game and had 4 middy lines. How much playing time youi think you get if the first line gets the lion share and the rest is splt between 3 lines ? Please. There are plenty of people who know the facts .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have no clue about the wolves.They look pretty good so far. Come and watch. Organized, everyone gets playing time, parents get along really well, great bunch of kids and one of the top teams out there. Coaches doing a great job.

Love how 2021 thread has erupted from obscurity.

I think Rising Sons thinks they can beat them, but you have to expect Igloo to prevail. Will tourney use NCAA faceoff rules and will that help Rising Sons?

Bethesda played Igloo a few times last year but doubt they have gained more players than Igloo gained.

Crabs 2021 went 0-3 at Greene Turtle Fall Invitational - doesn't mean they aren't really good team; they just played better (at that time) teams. Still, will they have pulled any new top players versus GT or Hawks? Maybe, with that recruiting pipeline. Only a 6th grade spring round-robin, but will still be fun to see scores.

I am predicting they get knocked off their high horse. The Sons PA are gonna physically take it to them and win hands down. Winter is over people and look around and see the ice is melting. Maybe they will learn to stop talking trash on these boards. Looking forward to them showing up with their "flashy" equipment too. That wont give the kids a heart to win. The time has come to end the question and maybe for a change we get to hear their excuses after they go back and wonder what happened.

I am so sick of the LI parents that think their kids are unbeatable.

Igloo wins hands down. Lock off their one attackman, our faceoff guys will kill it at the X and we have shown we can easily score on their D. It's going to be Tampa all over again. They may be the class of PA but they have a long way to go to be the Top Team

what grade are you talking about?

Agreed (Sons parent)hoping a few of our kids can make up the difference from Florida. Igloo is a great team. I think their beatable but not easily. They have great coaching and kids that don't make many mistakes. I don't think anything is ever hands down. The Sons do have some very very good kids, some igloo has never seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins hands down. Lock off their one attackman, our faceoff guys will kill it at the X and we have shown we can easily score on their D. It's going to be Tampa all over again. They may be the class of PA but they have a long way to go to be the Top Team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am predicting they get knocked off their high horse. The Sons PA are gonna physically take it to them and win hands down. Winter is over people and look around and see the ice is melting. Maybe they will learn to stop talking trash on these boards. Looking forward to them showing up with their "flashy" equipment too. That wont give the kids a heart to win. The time has come to end the question and maybe for a change we get to hear their excuses after they go back and wonder what happened.

I am so sick of the LI parents that think their kids are unbeatable.

My son doesn't play for any of the teams invited but I know players on igloo, 91 and express. I will take an arrogant igloo parent over the Sons parents anyday. At least they can back up their trash talk. Sons parents run they mouths over this board and have yet to come out of a legit tournament on top. So yes LI parents think our teams are unbeatable because you have yet to prove to us otherwise. GO LI !!!!

As an 2021 Igloo Parent - Rising Sons thank you for inviting us to play. Should be a great day of lacrosse and the competition will be great.

I would like to think that the above is not written by an Igloo parent.

Happy to share my name and shake your hand on the sideline - even the ones talking trash (assuming it is actually a Sons' parent writing the above)

I doubt these posts are from Sons parents. You know its some dad from a LI club just starting trouble. I'm sure all teams are just hoping on some good competitive lacrosse. Just about getting better against the best. Igloo and Bethesda have been top teams out there. Sons is up and coming. It will be a fun day. Let's hope the kids stay healthy until then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I doubt these posts are from Sons parents. You know its some dad from a LI club just starting trouble. I'm sure all teams are just hoping on some good competitive lacrosse. Just about getting better against the best. Igloo and Bethesda have been top teams out there. Sons is up and coming. It will be a fun day. Let's hope the kids stay healthy until then.

Actually the Sons post appears to be genuine.

People take this stuff way too serious. As if whomever wins will decide their future. You people make me laugh. They're 11/12 years old. Stop trying to live through these clubs teams and tell your kid to read a book

well put...that's very good advice...read, read, read.

did you cross check the roster to the emails or are you just guessing? big brother?

Bethesda Parent - rare post by anyone from Bethesda 2021 - play on field does talking. Igloo is TOP team - undisputed based on results from last Spring and Summer. They beat Bethesda in (3) Championship Games during Summer - including Denver 7-6. Great Team - and fun team to compete with. March 22nd is a nice warm up for everyone, but the June/July Tournaments are ultimately what matter. Will be a great season of lax - very talented year group. Maybe someone will actually beat Igloo in a final.

This site should mandate that you post with your actually verified name and email address. I am sure it would eliminate 99% of the garbage that is posted on this site.

This site has so much potential but it consistently degraded to a freaking channel 4 soap opera.

Igloo Parent here from the 2021 team. Lets all stop writing this stuff. Lets see this tournament for what it is. A Warmup with some amazing teams. I don't know about the Sons or Crabs but the LI teams have not yet been able to even get outside to practice once yet for the entire winter. This tournament is so these teams can stretch their legs, have fun and enjoy the competition. If there is bragging from LI parents its not from Igloo. Its from people trying to stir the pot. As a Igloo parent we realize just how talented all these teams are, and how well coached they are; any team can play well or badly in a given day. So why don't we all just stop taking all this crap and just enjoy a day of fun.

Igloo parent here, this is a great post. This tournament is a complete warmup for all teams. The Long Island teams haven't even seen the outdoors; I have to imagine the sons and Maryland teams have seen limited outdoors as well. Just a warmup, that's it. Lets just all enjoy ourselves.

We concur.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Parent here from the 2021 team. Lets all stop writing this stuff. Lets see this tournament for what it is. A Warmup with some amazing teams. I don't know about the Sons or Crabs but the LI teams have not yet been able to even get outside to practice once yet for the entire winter. This tournament is so these teams can stretch their legs, have fun and enjoy the competition. If there is bragging from LI parents its not from Igloo. Its from people trying to stir the pot. As a Igloo parent we realize just how talented all these teams are, and how well coached they are; any team can play well or badly in a given day. So why don't we all just stop taking all this crap and just enjoy a day of fun.

If there is bragging it's not from an Igloo parent!!! Lmfao

Well Done!

If I would have know one comment would shut you all up I would have done it months ago

Did the tournament of the best 2021 teams play yesterday?

As someone who has seen several of the teams supposed to have played yesterday at round-robin hosted by Rising Sons, I'd appreciate folks sharing how the games went.

I heard the new date is sometime in April. That is what I heard. I would also imagine if games were played we would have heard something from the winner by now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As someone who has seen several of the teams supposed to have played yesterday at round-robin hosted by Rising Sons, I'd appreciate folks sharing how the games went.

Mid Atlantic Madness rescheduled for 4/18

Actually- I was a Barracuda parent and your comment is not true.
the 2021 Outlaws black did turn over quite a few players but appears to have kept their core in place. They apper bigger and faster.
You say you're an ICON parent and you watched the Outlaws last year as an average team. Well we played them 3 times last year and went 1-2. They also beat Crush and destroyed 91 white. They will play Heat and Wolvines very tight this year. And don't forget the strong island saints. They played great last year too.

As for OutlawsBlack- They lost 6-4 early this year outdoors to the Wolverines in champ game. Both have stellar goalies.
They beat Barracudas - no joke - 18-5 (something crazy) indoor a few weeks ago.
A few days later, They lost in scrimmage to Wolverines outdoors 13-8 -- Outlaws without their goalie I was told.

Point is - there are at least 5-6 Talented teams in LI that can cause trouble for anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually- I was a Barracuda parent and your comment is not true.
the 2021 Outlaws black did turn over quite a few players but appears to have kept their core in place. They apper bigger and faster.
You say you're an ICON parent and you watched the Outlaws last year as an average team. Well we played them 3 times last year and went 1-2. They also beat Crush and destroyed 91 white. They will play Heat and Wolvines very tight this year. And don't forget the strong island saints. They played great last year too.

As for OutlawsBlack- They lost 6-4 early this year outdoors to the Wolverines in champ game. Both have stellar goalies.
They beat Barracudas - no joke - 18-5 (something crazy) indoor a few weeks ago.
A few days later, They lost in scrimmage to Wolverines outdoors 13-8 -- Outlaws without their goalie I was told.

Point is - there are at least 5-6 Talented teams in LI that can cause trouble for anyone.

Crush??? The 2020, 7th grade team? Absolutely not correct. Did you mean 2022 Smash? Or the 2023 Bandits?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually- I was a Barracuda parent and your comment is not true.
the 2021 Outlaws black did turn over quite a few players but appears to have kept their core in place. They apper bigger and faster.
You say you're an ICON parent and you watched the Outlaws last year as an average team. Well we played them 3 times last year and went 1-2. They also beat Crush and destroyed 91 white. They will play Heat and Wolvines very tight this year. And don't forget the strong island saints. They played great last year too.

Are you sure this is 2021 and what Icon team do you think you went 1-2. I don't normally get involved but outlaws never beat icon orange so let's clear that up

As for OutlawsBlack- They lost 6-4 early this year outdoors to the Wolverines in champ game. Both have stellar goalies.
They beat Barracudas - no joke - 18-5 (something crazy) indoor a few weeks ago.
A few days later, They lost in scrimmage to Wolverines outdoors 13-8 -- Outlaws without their goalie I was told.

Point is - there are at least 5-6 Talented teams in LI that can cause trouble for anyone.

Are you referring to icon orange? The outlaws never beat them so let's clear that up

Every year every team adds some new players making them better. Outlaws are a very good team but not on the level of 91s A team. Igloo the Wolves, Icon, Legacy of TLI . That they beat a team a year younger and a B team is not exactly shaking the pillars of heaven. I thought there goalie was okay , made some tough saves against us but then let a few easy ones go in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually- I was a Barracuda parent and your comment is not true.
the 2021 Outlaws black did turn over quite a few players but appears to have kept their core in place. They apper bigger and faster.
You say you're an ICON parent and you watched the Outlaws last year as an average team. Well we played them 3 times last year and went 1-2. They also beat Crush and destroyed 91 white. They will play Heat and Wolvines very tight this year. And don't forget the strong island saints. They played great last year too.

As for OutlawsBlack- They lost 6-4 early this year outdoors to the Wolverines in champ game. Both have stellar goalies.
They beat Barracudas - no joke - 18-5 (something crazy) indoor a few weeks ago.
A few days later, They lost in scrimmage to Wolverines outdoors 13-8 -- Outlaws without their goalie I was told.

Point is - there are at least 5-6 Talented teams in LI that can cause trouble for anyone.

Are u kidding me. Outlaws 2021 scrimmaged express 2021 A and lost 13-2. Could of been alot worse. Igloo is the best from last year. Express is very good. Keep dreaming if u think outlaws is going to be competitive with the top teams. We're u watching the same game. They scored 2 goals at end of scrimmage. Go play in B tourneys. Outlaw parents are nuts. Keep thinking they can play with top teams. What a joke. 13-8. That score never happened. Maybe in your dreams.

Outlaw goalie is a stellar goalie?That is ridiculous. To compare him to express goalie is a joke. We will see what outlaws do in summer tourneys. Lol. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are u kidding me. Outlaws 2021 scrimmaged express 2021 A and lost 13-2. Could of been alot worse. Igloo is the best from last year. Express is very good. Keep dreaming if u think outlaws is going to be competitive with the top teams. We're u watching the same game. They scored 2 goals at end of scrimmage. Go play in B tourneys. Outlaw parents are nuts. Keep thinking they can play with top teams. What a joke. 13-8. That score never happened. Maybe in your dreams.

Are we talking about kids or adults here, I hope a kid posted this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outlaw goalie is a stellar goalie?That is ridiculous. To compare him to express goalie is a joke. We will see what outlaws do in summer tourneys. Lol. Good luck to all.

I do believe we have singled out somebody here big brother.

Yes sorry- it was Smash. Point is- the Outlaws were a whole lot better than that Icon parent stated without real reference. We played them a few times so we'd know. I just find it bizarre random cheap shots are made on kids.
Igloo, 91 Orange seem to be consensus faves. Fine. - but ti sure would help if they payed other LI teams more often.
The top tier continues with the Wolverines - Icon, Leagcy Blue Knights, Outlaws Black and Team Long Island A, and SI Saints.
Anyone of these teams has a chance to compete. I'm sure more could be added and should.
If they continue to play together -you never know in a few years.

The TLI U11 team that supposed to be so good do they play 2021 or 2022 bracket?

Random cheap shots ? Somebdoy posted the player was "STELLAR: so expect a response, The top 3 teams have stopped playing so much on the Island because how many times do you want to crush the same teams ? They are out seeking better competition , as they should . Despite playing numerous times, which one of the following teams has OB EVER beat 91A WOlverines, Igloo, Legacy, Icon , TLI ? I am sure they are better then Empire , fl$ and Jesters, If you invited the top 5 LI teams, OB does not get an invite,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes sorry- it was Smash. Point is- the Outlaws were a whole lot better than that Icon parent stated without real reference. We played them a few times so we'd know. I just find it bizarre random cheap shots are made on kids.
Igloo, 91 Orange seem to be consensus faves. Fine. - but ti sure would help if they payed other LI teams more often.
The top tier continues with the Wolverines - Icon, Leagcy Blue Knights, Outlaws Black and Team Long Island A, and SI Saints.
Anyone of these teams has a chance to compete. I'm sure more could be added and should.
If they continue to play together -you never know in a few years.

I hear people cry about this all the time. They go by US LAx age rules. So while they may have a few kids a grade above theres a 90% chance the opposing team has kids the same age who do to late birthday of Oct Nov where held back, SIx of one, half dozen of the other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The TLI U11 team that supposed to be so good do they play 2021 or 2022 bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually- I was a Barracuda parent and your comment is not true.
the 2021 Outlaws black did turn over quite a few players but appears to have kept their core in place. They apper bigger and faster.
You say you're an ICON parent and you watched the Outlaws last year as an average team. Well we played them 3 times last year and went 1-2. They also beat Crush and destroyed 91 white. They will play Heat and Wolvines very tight this year. And don't forget the strong island saints. They played great last year too.

As for OutlawsBlack- They lost 6-4 early this year outdoors to the Wolverines in champ game. Both have stellar goalies.
They beat Barracudas - no joke - 18-5 (something crazy) indoor a few weeks ago.
A few days later, They lost in scrimmage to Wolverines outdoors 13-8 -- Outlaws without their goalie I was told.

Point is - there are at least 5-6 Talented teams in LI that can cause trouble for anyone.

you seem to have your facts, teams and/or grades confused . Never played nor would they come within 25 goals of 2020 7th grade Crush. Sorry

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually- I was a Barracuda parent and your comment is not true.
the 2021 Outlaws black did turn over quite a few players but appears to have kept their core in place. They apper bigger and faster.
You say you're an ICON parent and you watched the Outlaws last year as an average team. Well we played them 3 times last year and went 1-2. They also beat Crush and destroyed 91 white. They will play Heat and Wolvines very tight this year. And don't forget the strong island saints. They played great last year too.

As for OutlawsBlack- They lost 6-4 early this year outdoors to the Wolverines in champ game. Both have stellar goalies.
They beat Barracudas - no joke - 18-5 (something crazy) indoor a few weeks ago.
A few days later, They lost in scrimmage to Wolverines outdoors 13-8 -- Outlaws without their goalie I was told.

Point is - there are at least 5-6 Talented teams in LI that can cause trouble for anyone.

you seem to have your facts, teams and/or grades confused . Never played nor would they come within 25 goals of 2020 7th grade Crush. Sorry

Relax Crush Mommy, they were talking about Smash.

It is a good watch! I don't care who you are, it has a little of all of us in it. Hope the link works.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/A3NEQdqA48Y?autoplay=1

Going to have to jump in here and comment that actually Outlaws Black played our Wolves to a 6-4 game outside just a few months ago and it was a goalie showdown. Very competitive. I think Outlaws also played a 9-8 game against the Legacy blue knights in Legacy tourney. I know they played my nephews Team LI in a final over the summer and that game was actually decent too but Team LI won. Other than that- Outlaws haven't played igloo 2021 or Icon right?

Have to correct you though. The Outlaw goalie we saw was NOT the same we played last fall apparently. Heard from outlaw parent- that that goalie from fall wasn't there for our scrimmage but is on team. He played that scrimmage against Cudas that was like a lot to a little last month.
So pretty sure they will play us tough this spring/summer and doubt they are really that far behind the top 3. I don't think they will play us as close to 6-4 again but hey, you never know. Until then, still think top 3 teams are Wolves, Igloo (first team) and 91 Smellina. Then a nice group of 5 or so A teams behind us. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every year every team adds some new players making them better. Outlaws are a very good team but not on the level of 91s A team. Igloo the Wolves, Icon, Legacy of TLI . That they beat a team a year younger and a B team is not exactly shaking the pillars of heaven. I thought there goalie was okay , made some tough saves against us but then let a few easy ones go in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually- I was a Barracuda parent and your comment is not true.
the 2021 Outlaws black did turn over quite a few players but appears to have kept their core in place. They apper bigger and faster.
You say you're an ICON parent and you watched the Outlaws last year as an average team. Well we played them 3 times last year and went 1-2. They also beat Crush and destroyed 91 white. They will play Heat and Wolvines very tight this year. And don't forget the strong island saints. They played great last year too.

As for OutlawsBlack- They lost 6-4 early this year outdoors to the Wolverines in champ game. Both have stellar goalies.
They beat Barracudas - no joke - 18-5 (something crazy) indoor a few weeks ago.
A few days later, They lost in scrimmage to Wolverines outdoors 13-8 -- Outlaws without their goalie I was told.

Point is - there are at least 5-6 Talented teams in LI that can cause trouble for anyone.

All 2021 teams will need to go through Igloo first. Team 91 second and then it's a scramble.

Hands down Igloo is the best team. The team has been together for awhile other teams are not there yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All 2021 teams will need to go through Igloo first. Team 91 second and then it's a scramble.

its comical how defensive people get about their position on the top. You should be honored that others want to take your crown. When they have it you have something to be upset about. Tell your son to Keep working and keep the crown. Everyone else wants to be in your son's spot.

You are all cray cray

Would Igloo 2021 ever try to play Crush 2020? I would like to see that game.

Are you out of your mind? Igloo couldn't play with most 2020's now. Crush would score 30 goals in a regulation game.

Easy there Crush daddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easy there Crush daddy.

Crush don't do Easy to

Line up at 2021 has changed because of the date shift. Although the same teams were invited a few now could not make 4/18 work. Here is the lineup.
2020: Sons, Crabs, Loonies, Express, Legacy, fl$
2021: Sons, Bethesda, Hawks, Icon, Outlaws, BBL

2020 Division- Long Island teams will play Sons, Crabs and Loonies

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Line up at 2021 has changed because of the date shift. Although the same teams were invited a few now could not make 4/18 work. Here is the lineup.
2020: Sons, Crabs, Loonies, Express, Legacy, fl$
2021: Sons, Bethesda, Hawks, Icon, Outlaws, BBL

2020 Division- Long Island teams will play Sons, Crabs and Loonies

Looking forward to hearing about these games! Going to be good competition and a solid way to measure a teams strength and weaknesses so they can prepare and strengthen before summer tournament season.

Why would anyone want to see that massacre different level

Any idea why Igloo backed out of this one? Could it be they're scared of the Sons

How is team 91 heat 2021 second if they lost to express wolves last 5 out 6 matches? Really and Legacy blue knights got smacked today 13-2 by the wolves @ shamrock!!! Igloo and wolves are tops!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is team 91 heat 2021 second if they lost to express wolves last 5 out 6 matches? Really and Legacy blue knights got smacked today 13-2 by the wolves @ shamrock!!! Igloo and wolves are tops!!!

Obviously they didn't yesterday, but do the wolves players still play for legacy? They had 4-5 overlap this past fall.

2021 wolves are dong better without the 3 Stooges coaching them.

Sounds like your a little jealous,
That the team looks good.
I bet you would never have the nerve to
Speak up like a man and discuss your obvious
Issue with them.

I know these coaches from pal and saw them
Coaching with MC on Saturday. They have always
been very positive with my son.
Wolves were always a strong team.
Can't a team just practice hard and improve?

Bashing a coach anonomosly is such a coward.
Either speak up or move on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like your a little jealous,
That the team looks good.
I bet you would never have the nerve to
Speak up like a man and discuss your obvious
Issue with them.

I know these coaches from pal and saw them
Coaching with MC on Saturday. They have always
been very positive with my son.
Wolves were always a strong team.
Can't a team just practice hard and improve?

Bashing a coach anonomosly is such a coward.
Either speak up or move on

The fact that MC had to step in speaks volumes. Everybody knows what the coaches did. Its not a secret

And it's not a secret what the team has become now. Give the ball to one kid and let him run through the entire team.

Truth one coaches kid started on D, now no way, one started on attack now he is lucky to be on the team. I am sure you are one of the losers that follow them around all day and kissed their [lacrosse].please if they played the best kids they would still be coaching the team.TRUTH

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

So they can bash my kid that's ok? Second are you saying the team was better with the other 3 coaches?

If anyone bashed your kid you should of confronted them.
Not accuse a dad coach would hurt your son
When he has a boy the same age. No one would believe as a dad
You would let an adult bash your kid and not say anything.

Looks like two totally different views here. One is the team
Was so messed up MC had to take over. The other is they used to be a team
But now that MC is invovled it's not.
Do you think MC would join a good team just to save them from some unhappy parents or join a team
He knows has potential to pull off the wins ?
Do you think he would coach a team that had no potential?
He wants the win end of story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

And one of the teams they beat was a fifth grade team. so it all evens out. the style of coaching varies from club to club. this one happens to use the star players much more than the rest during games, it hurts and helps at different times, but you can't beat the workouts and conditioning, which is what matters the most at this level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

And one of the teams they beat was a fifth grade team. so it all evens out. the style of coaching varies from club to club. this one happens to use the star players much more than the rest during games, it hurts and helps at different times, but you can't beat the workouts and conditioning, which is what matters the most at this level.

Who made the 5th grade team play in the 6th grade bracket. They've been doing that for years and beat most of the 6th grade teams anyway. The express team is much better than it was last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If anyone bashed your kid you should of confronted them.
Not accuse a dad coach would hurt your son
When he has a boy the same age. No one would believe as a dad
You would let an adult bash your kid and not say anything.

Looks like two totally different views here. One is the team
Was so messed up MC had to take over. The other is they used to be a team
But now that MC is invovled it's not.
Do you think MC would join a good team just to save them from some unhappy parents or join a team
He knows has potential to pull off the wins ?
Do you think he would coach a team that had no potential?
He wants the win end of story.

I think MC has a lot on his plate and if things where running smooth he would not have to step in and would still get the credit. As for approaching a coach, depends. I have friends whos like 6 foot 4 and massive with little fat on him. Yeah, he can get in anybody's grill and fear of him gets coaches to get in line. But for a guy whos small, you make a big stink and your kid gets even less playing time. What can you do ? Take legal action ? YOu know what they did on that team ? They rode the season out and then went on to play on other A teams. There kid son the B team last year that should have been on the A team. I a guessing they wanted no part of the A team. Last year that A teams numbers where light. So MC had a problem with good players not wanting to be on that team. Several years ago the coaches where sending out emails saying " hey lets worry about playing time when we get home,lets just win this weekend" because so many parents where irate. My friends kid left that team and I literally got calls from two other teams directors who knew me and knew the kid played on my kids town team to see if I could put in a good word with his father and that they wanted him.

Bottom line...the 2021 wolves are a great team, with great kids, great coaches, and great parents. Every team evolves and this one is in an excellent place heading in a very good direction. You will hear no complaints from kids or parents that are actually a part of this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

Yeah and at least one middie was a 7th grader, your point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

Yeah and at least one middie was a 7th grader, your point?

who knows that? point is for an early season tournament they look like theyre moving in the right direction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would Igloo 2021 ever try to play Crush 2020? I would like to see that game.

New [lacrosse] teams can NOT play against kids a year older, shouldn't ever happen, can't ever happen. That is just cheating, how ridiculous being forced to play against a kid that is a year older. Just not fair for little johnny to play against BIG JOHNNY. [lacrosse], those kids are 3/4 of an inch taller and outweighs my boy by 4 pounds. You just talking cray cray now.

You sound like such a bully - the bigger dad would of
Forced the coaches to play their kid more.
Go to a B team and have your kid be first string.
Your are the parent who makes their own kid feel not good enough.
The A team isn't for every parent but it would of probably be to much for you to admit your kids a B player. Sad it's not all about the kid being happy,
And not about the dads ego.

No the 3 idiots made him feel like he 's not a A player
Like most kids that left playing and having fun.

Aww, did he not get his cookies and milk too? Poor thing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

Yeah and at least one middie was a 7th grader, your point?

As long as he has a late birthday then he is eligible no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You sound like such a bully - the bigger dad would of
Forced the coaches to play their kid more.
Go to a B team and have your kid be first string.
Your are the parent who makes their own kid feel not good enough.
The A team isn't for every parent but it would of probably be to much for you to admit your kids a B player. Sad it's not all about the kid being happy,
And not about the dads ego.

My kid is a B player. I was simply talking about interactions I have seen before between coaches and dads. It was friends kid who was on that team and after leaving he was immediately pursued and ended up starting for another A team. By the way, there is nothing wrong with being second string on an A team unless of course the second string NEVER plays. Those guys put 3 kids on attack, made every other offense player a middy. How do yo have 4 middy lines and expect kids to play ? Please, everybody knows what those guys did, discussions about playing time are common amongst parents and over the last few years i have heard " you know what the 2021 Wolverines do " more then once

For whoever is talking about the Wolverines the same kids played they did not change the lines for defense middies or attack. The only thing they did was have 4 fifth-grade there so if you don't know what you're talking about just keep your mouth shut!!!!!

I know for a fact they changed the lines.

Where talking about the past and what forced a coaching change. Not what happened this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For whoever is talking about the Wolverines the same kids played they did not change the lines for defense middies or attack. The only thing they did was have 4 fifth-grade there so if you don't know what you're talking about just keep your mouth shut!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

Yeah and at least one middie was a 7th grader, your point?

As long as he has a late birthday then he is eligible no?

Not if you are representing your team as 2021

Bottom line...the 2021 wolves are a great team, with great kids, great coaches, and great parents. Every team evolves and this one is in an excellent place heading in a very good direction. You will hear no complaints from kids or parents that are actually a part of this team.

Thank you and I would concur. Things are solid with the wolves and getting better each weekend. Kids, parents, coaches all seem pretty happy where things are right now with the team. It should be a great season.

Get ready, every practice you will see a new helmet

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem very angry. First off, singling out and bashing the coaches' kids is just wrong. They are kids for Gods sake. Secondly, the team now just sits back and watches MC's favorites rack up goals against 5th grade competition. Its not rocket science. Take one kid and have him carry the team until his arms fall off. How long can that last? Or until someone ELSE pays MC for that extra home tutoring and then HE becomes the chosen one. The team lost the feeling of a team.

Thats not true. They are much better than they were last year. I saw them play this weekend and last season - they move the ball well in the offensive end and in transition and get scoring from a number of kids and now have a defensive coach that gets in their Dmen's grills. Very impressed by their level of play and their IQs. BTW their goalie this weekend was a 5th grader.

Yeah and at least one middie was a 7th grader, your point?

As long as he has a late birthday then he is eligible no?

Not if you are representing your team as 2021

Maybe he was the opposite of a hold back, maybe he was a spring ahead?

Really FANTASTIC Showcase for the 2015 Mid Atlantic Madness Tourney!

Great way to match up top notch mid Atlantic teams with excellent LI teams before their respective summer seasons begin.

2021- This is a really great opportunity for rising LI teams like ICON Orange and Outlaws Black. The invite came after Igloo and Wolverines were forced out due to date change.

No matter what any of you crack pipes say- both of the two newly invited LI teams are in the mix for top 4-7 of the best LI teams in 2021 year. We will see this summer for sure. Team LI and Legacy Blue Knights are the only other club teams that could crack the top 7 for now. That assumes we can agree that Igloo Black Ice, Team 91 Orange amd Express Wolverines are the top 3. Fact is- ICON and Outlaws are closing the gap and both should fare well next weekend and benefit tremendously from playing the Sons, Bethesda and Hawks.

This gives some of the other top LI teams a chance to compete early on against the top tier mid atlantic -Rising Sons and Bethesda Blue. The Sons amd Bethesda provide excellent matchups for ICON and Outlaws and I bet the games turn out to be excellent. . The Annapolis Hawks won plenty of championships with the team they apparently are submitting. BBL Elite is a great Nj team but lost to those LI teams last year in several tourneys. Still- they are an Elite team - collected from several NJ areas.

It's gonna be another great tourney and every team can learn from the top talent and make adjustments in time for the LAX season.

Hopefully the weather plays out more like spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Line up at 2021 has changed because of the date shift. Although the same teams were invited a few now could not make 4/18 work. Here is the lineup.
2020: Sons, Crabs, Loonies, Express, Legacy, fl$
2021: Sons, Bethesda, Hawks, Icon, Outlaws, BBL

2020 Division- Long Island teams will play Sons, Crabs and Loonies

Looking forward to hearing about these games! Going to be good competition and a solid way to measure a teams strength and weaknesses so they can prepare and strengthen before summer tournament season.

Many would agree that top Long Island teams numbers four and five are going to this tournament but not the best. In no order Igloo , Express and 91 are top three. As for numbers 4 and 5 Icon was just beat by Express who was using a 5th grade goalie. I was surprised on how good the Outlaws looked recently and we all know they added some new players this year and kept the core kids together and are playing well and have been able to compete with top talent. Many would also agree that Team Long Island is in the mix for top 6. Legacy may not belong. When they have the Express players they could challenge for a top 6 place but we all have seen this past weekend what they are without Express kids playing for them. This mid Atlantic Tourney should be fun but it would have been nice if the top 3 Long Island teams were going.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really FANTASTIC Showcase for the 2015 Mid Atlantic Madness Tourney!

Great way to match up top notch mid Atlantic teams with excellent LI teams before their respective summer seasons begin.

2021- This is a really great opportunity for rising LI teams like ICON Orange and Outlaws Black. The invite came after Igloo and Wolverines were forced out due to date change.

No matter what any of you crack pipes say- both of the two newly invited LI teams are in the mix for top 4-7 of the best LI teams in 2021 year. We will see this summer for sure. Team LI and Legacy Blue Knights are the only other club teams that could crack the top 7 for now. That assumes we can agree that Igloo Black Ice, Team 91 Orange amd Express Wolverines are the top 3. Fact is- ICON and Outlaws are closing the gap and both should fare well next weekend and benefit tremendously from playing the Sons, Bethesda and Hawks.

This gives some of the other top LI teams a chance to compete early on against the top tier mid atlantic -Rising Sons and Bethesda Blue. The Sons amd Bethesda provide excellent matchups for ICON and Outlaws and I bet the games turn out to be excellent. . The Annapolis Hawks won plenty of championships with the team they apparently are submitting. BBL Elite is a great Nj team but lost to those LI teams last year in several tourneys. Still- they are an Elite team - collected from several NJ areas.

It's gonna be another great tourney and every team can learn from the top talent and make adjustments in time for the LAX season.

Hopefully the weather plays out more like spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Line up at 2021 has changed because of the date shift. Although the same teams were invited a few now could not make 4/18 work. Here is the lineup.
2020: Sons, Crabs, Loonies, Express, Legacy, fl$
2021: Sons, Bethesda, Hawks, Icon, Outlaws, BBL

2020 Division- Long Island teams will play Sons, Crabs and Loonies

Looking forward to hearing about these games! Going to be good competition and a solid way to measure a teams strength and weaknesses so they can prepare and strengthen before summer tournament season.

Express 2021 may have used a 5th G goalie but
They also played many 7 th G players that made a big difference
In a 7-5 game.

Are you surprised, MC IS A LOW LIFE.WITH O INTEGRITY.HE WILL KEEP BRING PLAYERS.

All players on express are age appropriate for the 2021 team. They used a 5th grade goalie, 5th grade defenseman, and were missing 2 starting defenseman. Let's check DOBs. We are all good. Hope to see u guys again with a full team. Love to see what the final will be then. Icon is a very good team but not beating Express with the team they have. And rumor has it Icon will lose their best middie next year.

This is an ongoing debate involving LI lacrosse. Most people feel as though a 2021 team should be represented by players graduating in the year 2021. A 7th grader even with a late birthday still graduates in 2020. That is why many out of state programs use age based teams.

What I find rather comical about your post is that you stress you had a 5th grade goalie several times but then indicate that the team is AGE appropriate as if you are trying to hide the fact that you have 7th grade players.

If you really think about it a 5th grader with an early birthday can be 11 as most 6th graders currently are. So in order for your statement to be relevant you need to pick what side of the fence you fall on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you surprised, MC IS A LOW LIFE.WITH O INTEGRITY.HE WILL KEEP BRING PLAYERS.

no 7th graders on the team. many parents especially those who have older kids have held their younger kids back when they started kindergarten. I heard one coach from our town team say when his youngest was born in September he knew right then and there he was going to school a year later. I have no idea of the birthdates on the team but they are all sixth graders. last weekend's games had a few kids from the 2022 team but not from the 2020 team. And yes if players are good, he will keep bringing players. btw, so does every other top club out there. I know some kids that have played for 3 different clubs already and they haven't left elementary school yet.

No one cares about the year of graduation, the only thing anyone should care about is the correct age players, playing in the correct age bracket. You will see in a few years when your teams start playing against the MD and Philly holdbacks.

Then you will change your opinion and be glad to play against kids the same age rather than kids that graduate the same year but in fact are one year older...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one cares about the year of graduation, the only thing anyone should care about is the correct age players, playing in the correct age bracket. You will see in a few years when your teams start playing against the MD and Philly holdbacks.

Then you will change your opinion and be glad to play against kids the same age rather than kids that graduate the same year but in fact are one year older...

where have you been? it's based on graduating year not age. I don't agree with it but it is how the game is being played right now. there are holdbacks here too and the numbers are growing rapidly.

It does not matter if the Wolves had 5th,4th or even 3rd grade replacements this past weekend because only the top 12 kids play most of the time in games. The second half of the team plays very little if at all. We have not seen that policy change with the coaching change. Would like to see where the Wolves would rank if the Wolves shared playing time like a few of the other 4 teams in the top 5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you surprised, MC IS A LOW LIFE.WITH O INTEGRITY.HE WILL KEEP BRING PLAYERS.

no 7th graders on the team. many parents especially those who have older kids have held their younger kids back when they started kindergarten. I heard one coach from our town team say when his youngest was born in September he knew right then and there he was going to school a year later. I have no idea of the birthdates on the team but they are all sixth graders. last weekend's games had a few kids from the 2022 team but not from the 2020 team. And yes if players are good, he will keep bringing players. btw, so does every other top club out there. I know some kids that have played for 3 different clubs already and they haven't left elementary school yet.

Who coaches the wolves?

which other top teams have shared playing time in a close game?

Have fun going on long trips, and watching your kid stand on side lines

What are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Are you surprised, MC IS A LOW LIFE.WITH O INTEGRITY.HE WILL KEEP BRING PLAYERS.

no 7th graders on the team. many parents especially those who have older kids have held their younger kids back when they started kindergarten. I heard one coach from our town team say when his youngest was born in September he knew right then and there he was going to school a year later. I have no idea of the birthdates on the team but they are all sixth graders. last weekend's games had a few kids from the 2022 team but not from the 2020 team. And yes if players are good, he will keep bringing players. btw, so does every other top club out there. I know some kids that have played for 3 different clubs already and they haven't left elementary school yet. [/quote

Never said they brought players said you have 7th graders on your team and that is a fact. If there isn't an issue don't deny it

MC is going to win tournaments over the summer, so if you are not a starter your kid will hardly see the field, if you are not playing now get off the ship while u can.the only people that like him are the starters, everyone else he treats like bleep.

Just curious, Do you think that MC has any clothes on underneath that weird Burt Reynold's robe he wears on the sidelines? Just sayin'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious, Do you think that MC has any clothes on underneath that weird Burt Reynold's robe he wears on the sidelines? Just sayin'

only a warped mind would think of that. Just sayin'. There are plenty of teams you can go start on. Some of us are looking at the big picture. Not just living in the moment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Are you surprised, MC IS A LOW LIFE.WITH O INTEGRITY.HE WILL KEEP BRING PLAYERS.

no 7th graders on the team. many parents especially those who have older kids have held their younger kids back when they started kindergarten. I heard one coach from our town team say when his youngest was born in September he knew right then and there he was going to school a year later. I have no idea of the birthdates on the team but they are all sixth graders. last weekend's games had a few kids from the 2022 team but not from the 2020 team. And yes if players are good, he will keep bringing players. btw, so does every other top club out there. I know some kids that have played for 3 different clubs already and they haven't left elementary school yet. [/quote

Never said they brought players said you have 7th graders on your team and that is a fact. If there isn't an issue don't deny it

no 7th graders. Sorry. Come up with a better one. That is getting old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MC is going to win tournaments over the summer, so if you are not a starter your kid will hardly see the field, if you are not playing now get off the ship while u can.the only people that like him are the starters, everyone else he treats like bleep.

show me a top club that doesn't do that.

What is the big picture , standing on the the side lines at Chiaminade or St A?

My son isn't a starter and i'm staying right where I am. MC coaching is 2nd to none. If it's down to the buzzer and and it's a close game, the best players should be on the field, this isn't PAL.

It stinks when your kid isn't in the "starter club"
But if he was wouldn't you go along for the ride?
You can't blame them .
Especially now that there getting older it means more opportunities,
Would you turn them away?
You have to accept what level your kid is in on - if that means working hard to be the best he can be even if it's not going to put him as a top team starter,
So be it.
I would rather pay for lax whatever level it might be and have a heathy hobby
Then re-hab.

Everyone would agree that man up/down and close games in the last few minutes only the best should be playing. However with the Wolves there are kids that don't get in games or play only a couple of minutes in blowouts. The top 12 - 14 play a lot no matter what the score is. History with the Wolves is very telling. By the end of the year the second half of kids that don't play leave and have trouble making "A" teams the following year and either go back to the Wolves , Go to a "B" team or are a lesser player on another "A" team. These kids were top players when joining the Wolves but the year on the bench hurt them. Remember if your kid is one of the bench players there were probably 10 or more players that rejected Express before you got your invite. Parents have to choose what is right and sitting on the bench of a better team is almost never the right choice. Other teams have great coaching too.I hope it works for everyone but I see no reason why this year will be different from the past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son isn't a starter and i'm staying right where I am. MC coaching is 2nd to none. If it's down to the buzzer and and it's a close game, the best players should be on the field, this isn't PAL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son isn't a starter and i'm staying right where I am. MC coaching is 2nd to none. If it's down to the buzzer and and it's a close game, the best players should be on the field, this isn't PAL.

My friends kid got little playing time there. It was not that he wasnt a good player, but when you run 4 middy lines and the first line gets the lions share how much is left for the second line He left and several A teams jumped on him. He joined one and has started ever since WHo in their right min dis going to pay 3 grand, travel out of state , pat for hotels for their kid to play 5 minutes all day. To be honest, Express should not take these kids on the team, they know they are ripping them off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son isn't a starter and i'm staying right where I am. MC coaching is 2nd to none. If it's down to the buzzer and and it's a close game, the best players should be on the field, this isn't PAL.

My friends kid got little playing time there. It was not that he wasnt a good player, but when you run 4 middy lines and the first line gets the lions share how much is left for the second line He left and several A teams jumped on him. He joined one and has started ever since WHo in their right min dis going to pay 3 grand, travel out of state , pat for hotels for their kid to play 5 minutes all day. To be honest, Express should not take these kids on the team, they know they are ripping them off.

again, show me a top club that does not do that. let's not start the private school banter. to each his own. don't bash someone's choice to stand on a side line. you have no idea what their plans are. good luck with yours.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It stinks when your kid isn't in the "starter club"
But if he was wouldn't you go along for the ride?
You can't blame them .
Especially now that there getting older it means more opportunities,
Would you turn them away?
You have to accept what level your kid is in on - if that means working hard to be the best he can be even if it's not going to put him as a top team starter,
So be it.
I would rather pay for lax whatever level it might be and have a heathy hobby
Then re-hab.

you lost me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son isn't a starter and i'm staying right where I am. MC coaching is 2nd to none. If it's down to the buzzer and and it's a close game, the best players should be on the field, this isn't PAL.

My friends kid got little playing time there. It was not that he wasnt a good player, but when you run 4 middy lines and the first line gets the lions share how much is left for the second line He left and several A teams jumped on him. He joined one and has started ever since WHo in their right min dis going to pay 3 grand, travel out of state , pat for hotels for their kid to play 5 minutes all day. To be honest, Express should not take these kids on the team, they know they are ripping them off.

again, show me a top club that does not do that. let's not start the private school banter. to each his own. don't bash someone's choice to stand on a side line. you have no idea what their plans are. good luck with yours.

If you are a top club your team should be full off top players. The drop off from you third attackman to your fifth should not be so drastic that that kid cant get 30% of the playing time. There are warning signs. If there are 27 kids on the sideline, you gotta problem. WHen you hear stories of a kids family driving to Maryland and stepping on the field for 2 minutes, that player should not be on that team. Listen, if you want to stand on the sidleines, thats your right. My kid is NOT an A player and although he has made better teams, I elected to stay where I was as he plays a lot including man up. I understand playing time should not be even steven, but who the [lacrosse] would pay between 2 and 4 grand to watch other kids play lacrosse. Think those kids are not sitting on the grass in practice as well ? Wait till you find out the top 3 players are playing at a deep discount, and thats what your kids really for

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son isn't a starter and i'm staying right where I am. MC coaching is 2nd to none. If it's down to the buzzer and and it's a close game, the best players should be on the field, this isn't PAL.

My friends kid got little playing time there. It was not that he wasnt a good player, but when you run 4 middy lines and the first line gets the lions share how much is left for the second line He left and several A teams jumped on him. He joined one and has started ever since WHo in their right min dis going to pay 3 grand, travel out of state , pat for hotels for their kid to play 5 minutes all day. To be honest, Express should not take these kids on the team, they know they are ripping them off.

again, show me a top club that does not do that. let's not start the private school banter. to each his own. don't bash someone's choice to stand on a side line. you have no idea what their plans are. good luck with yours.

If you are a top club your team should be full off top players. The drop off from you third attackman to your fifth should not be so drastic that that kid cant get 30% of the playing time. There are warning signs. If there are 27 kids on the sideline, you gotta problem. WHen you hear stories of a kids family driving to Maryland and stepping on the field for 2 minutes, that player should not be on that team. Listen, if you want to stand on the sidleines, thats your right. My kid is NOT an A player and although he has made better teams, I elected to stay where I was as he plays a lot including man up. I understand playing time should not be even steven, but who the [lacrosse] would pay between 2 and 4 grand to watch other kids play lacrosse. Think those kids are not sitting on the grass in practice as well ? Wait till you find out the top 3 players are playing at a deep discount, and thats what your kids really for

that is YOUR choice. why do you care how far people drive or what they pay? seems strange.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the big picture , standing on the the side lines at Chiaminade or St A?

what if it is. why do you care? It's a choice. thank goodness we still have those.

that is YOUR choice. why do you care how far people drive or what they pay? seems strange.

Same reason I care when I hear a kid got injured . Dont like to see people I know go through bad things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that is YOUR choice. why do you care how far people drive or what they pay? seems strange.

Same reason I care when I hear a kid got injured . Dont like to see people I know go through bad things.

how did this turn into a kid getting hurt. I'm sure if people are unhappy they will leave.i guess you think they are among the who the heck would pay that for that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that is YOUR choice. why do you care how far people drive or what they pay? seems strange.

Same reason I care when I hear a kid got injured . Dont like to see people I know go through bad things.

how did this turn into a kid getting hurt. I'm sure if people are unhappy they will leave.i guess you think they are among the who the heck would pay that for that.

You asked why I cared no? I explained it, when something bad happens to somebody I know I feel bad for them. When greed gets in the way of fielding a balanced team and children are placed on it that don't belong and as a result get no playing time and their self esteem injured it bothers me. I know what kind of turnover the team your talking about has had. That speaks for itself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that is YOUR choice. why do you care how far people drive or what they pay? seems strange.

Same reason I care when I hear a kid got injured . Dont like to see people I know go through bad things.

how did this turn into a kid getting hurt. I'm sure if people are unhappy they will leave.i guess you think they are among the who the heck would pay that for that.

You asked why I cared no? I explained it, when something bad happens to somebody I know I feel bad for them. When greed gets in the way of fielding a balanced team and children are placed on it that don't belong and as a result get no playing time and their self esteem injured it bothers me. I know what kind of turnover the team your talking about has had. That speaks for itself

it was a rhetorical question. If you got out im sure they can to. Every team at this age has turnover.

It seems you have a issue with express.
Do you really think that the other two top teams
91 and igloo don't do the same thing. The kids can't all be
The exact same level in those teams either. They pick from
Who shows up at tryouts- so all the top kids should be on
One team ? How would you pull that off? Sounds like recruiting.
Would that be fair at this age?
Heard 91 orange coach called kids he wanted before
Tryouts and had the team picked out before tryouts even happened. Was that fair to the others who paid and went down to try out. Do you feel bad for those kids that didn't even have a chance?
If your kids not on the team, why are you so bitter about someone else who is
Happy to be on it. Do you care more then their parents?
Please, you just have an issue you can't get over.
Respect people's choices even if they are different then yours.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems you have a issue with express.
Do you really think that the other two top teams
91 and igloo don't do the same thing. The kids can't all be
The exact same level in those teams either. They pick from
Who shows up at tryouts- so all the top kids should be on
One team ? How would you pull that off? Sounds like recruiting.
Would that be fair at this age?
Heard 91 orange coach called kids he wanted before
Tryouts and had the team picked out before tryouts even happened. Was that fair to the others who paid and went down to try out. Do you feel bad for those kids that didn't even have a chance?
If your kids not on the team, why are you so bitter about someone else who is
Happy to be on it. Do you care more then their parents?
Please, you just have an issue you can't get over.
Respect people's choices even if they are different then yours.

First off, the tryouts are for more then one team, the Wolverines had a well earned reputation about playing time. On the sidelines of travel teams , in between games conversation about other clubs is a topic you will hear more then once. Those guys went above and beyond. My only issue, is people trying to say it didnt happen. Everybody knew at some point MC was going to have to step in, and he did. The point is ,people who do this in the lax world should be remembered. I have no issue other then the truth.

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

good point, why would MC take over because of a
Problem about playing time and then make the problem worse
By only playing the stronger kids all game.
You don't have a comment about 91 recruiting
The team before tryouts ?
Truth, you sound like a express hater.
It's not for everyone Let it go already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

It makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

This isn't about mc. Its about the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

No one is whining but you.

"Dude???" You sound like a child. Your son obviously was cut I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

you are the one whining. this started out as someone feeling bad for someone they know. it's a choice no matter how you slice it. let's face it as the kids get older, there is going to be more competition. kids are going to get bigger stronger and faster. the A players at 12 may not be the A player at 16. just keep working hard. if you can't get the playing time, you have other choices. it's all about the training at this stage. there are clinics posted every day for extra training. clubs are businesses first and foremost. hence, the turnover. hopefully, you find one you are happy with. good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

you are the one whining. this started out as someone feeling bad for someone they know. it's a choice no matter how you slice it. let's face it as the kids get older, there is going to be more competition. kids are going to get bigger stronger and faster. the A players at 12 may not be the A player at 16. just keep working hard. if you can't get the playing time, you have other choices. it's all about the training at this stage. there are clinics posted every day for extra training. clubs are businesses first and foremost. hence, the turnover. hopefully, you find one you are happy with. good luck.

Once again you miss the mark. I am merely pointing out the history of that team. My son NEVER played for them, he is not an A player. The kid I know that left that team, as well as a few other went on to be starters on other A teams. From the time those kids where in third grade that team had no issue playing some kids 90% of the time and others barely at all. Like I said, back in third grade even their second middly line barely saw the field. Unlike most travel clubs at that age they has 3 attackmen and the others where converted to a 4th middy line. The turnover was large. Or do you want to tell me that they didnt do this ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

you are the one whining. this started out as someone feeling bad for someone they know. it's a choice no matter how you slice it. let's face it as the kids get older, there is going to be more competition. kids are going to get bigger stronger and faster. the A players at 12 may not be the A player at 16. just keep working hard. if you can't get the playing time, you have other choices. it's all about the training at this stage. there are clinics posted every day for extra training. clubs are businesses first and foremost. hence, the turnover. hopefully, you find one you are happy with. good luck.

Once again you miss the mark. I am merely pointing out the history of that team. My son NEVER played for them, he is not an A player. The kid I know that left that team, as well as a few other went on to be starters on other A teams. From the time those kids where in third grade that team had no issue playing some kids 90% of the time and others barely at all. Like I said, back in third grade even their second middly line barely saw the field. Unlike most travel clubs at that age they has 3 attackmen and the others where converted to a 4th middy line. The turnover was large. Or do you want to tell me that they didnt do this ?

OMG. you spent an awful lot of time for something you were never involved in(if you can believe that). please people are grownups for the most part. I don't think you are swaying anyone to leave. they will leave if it's in their best interest. once again, all the top clubs do this. right or wrong. it's not exclusive to Express as you would like everyone to believe. or this team for that matter. your input seems to have ulterior motives behind it. but keep at it as will we.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

you are the one whining. this started out as someone feeling bad for someone they know. it's a choice no matter how you slice it. let's face it as the kids get older, there is going to be more competition. kids are going to get bigger stronger and faster. the A players at 12 may not be the A player at 16. just keep working hard. if you can't get the playing time, you have other choices. it's all about the training at this stage. there are clinics posted every day for extra training. clubs are businesses first and foremost. hence, the turnover. hopefully, you find one you are happy with. good luck.

Once again you miss the mark. I am merely pointing out the history of that team. My son NEVER played for them, he is not an A player. The kid I know that left that team, as well as a few other went on to be starters on other A teams. From the time those kids where in third grade that team had no issue playing some kids 90% of the time and others barely at all. Like I said, back in third grade even their second middly line barely saw the field. Unlike most travel clubs at that age they has 3 attackmen and the others where converted to a 4th middy line. The turnover was large. Or do you want to tell me that they didnt do this ?

let me get this straight. even your friend is no longer on the team. give it a rest already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

you are the one whining. this started out as someone feeling bad for someone they know. it's a choice no matter how you slice it. let's face it as the kids get older, there is going to be more competition. kids are going to get bigger stronger and faster. the A players at 12 may not be the A player at 16. just keep working hard. if you can't get the playing time, you have other choices. it's all about the training at this stage. there are clinics posted every day for extra training. clubs are businesses first and foremost. hence, the turnover. hopefully, you find one you are happy with. good luck.

Once again you miss the mark. I am merely pointing out the history of that team. My son NEVER played for them, he is not an A player. The kid I know that left that team, as well as a few other went on to be starters on other A teams. From the time those kids where in third grade that team had no issue playing some kids 90% of the time and others barely at all. Like I said, back in third grade even their second middly line barely saw the field. Unlike most travel clubs at that age they has 3 attackmen and the others where converted to a 4th middy line. The turnover was large. Or do you want to tell me that they didnt do this ?

let me get this straight. even your friend is no longer on the team. give it a rest already.

Me giving it a rest wont change the past of what that team used to do. People like just dont like having i brought up. Notie how when I say they only played 3 kids at attack and put the rest on a fourth middly line you dont say its not true ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does that make sense?
MC took over because of playing
Time?
Why are people on here saying MC
Only plays his top group all game,
And the others barely play at all?

Dude, you can whine and cry wall you want. those of us who been involved in this age bracket for the last 4 years knows what went on there. The turnover they had, players who chose the B team over the A team who where A players.

you are the one whining. this started out as someone feeling bad for someone they know. it's a choice no matter how you slice it. let's face it as the kids get older, there is going to be more competition. kids are going to get bigger stronger and faster. the A players at 12 may not be the A player at 16. just keep working hard. if you can't get the playing time, you have other choices. it's all about the training at this stage. there are clinics posted every day for extra training. clubs are businesses first and foremost. hence, the turnover. hopefully, you find one you are happy with. good luck.

Once again you miss the mark. I am merely pointing out the history of that team. My son NEVER played for them, he is not an A player. The kid I know that left that team, as well as a few other went on to be starters on other A teams. From the time those kids where in third grade that team had no issue playing some kids 90% of the time and others barely at all. Like I said, back in third grade even their second middly line barely saw the field. Unlike most travel clubs at that age they has 3 attackmen and the others where converted to a 4th middy line. The turnover was large. Or do you want to tell me that they didnt do this ?

let me get this straight. even your friend is no longer on the team. give it a rest already.

Me giving it a rest wont change the past of what that team used to do. People like just dont like having i brought up. Notie how when I say they only played 3 kids at attack and put the rest on a fourth middly line you dont say its not true ?

write much?

I think this was a fair and reasonable comment.
Although I would add, that's LI's 4th and 5th best team at 2021 could very well be a top 25 team in the country ! So it's not like Icon or Outlaws are going to spanked around.
I'm also hearing that the schedule has Outlaws Black playing Icon Orange. That's a great early season matchup. Rising Sons and Bethesda Blue can both call themselves legitimate top 25 contenders in US too, and both will provide solid competition for the Invitational.
Point is, When Igloo goes to Nationals- and wins 6 games by a score margin of 58-6....but then plays a top LI team to a 7-5 or 8-6 -- it means something and always has meant something. That is why 91 Orange and Igloo Black Ice avoid each other until they have to play. This is why many contend that Igloo avoids the Wolves and for some reason Avoids Icon and Outlaws too, as if a loss to one of these teams would dismissing their 17-2 second round win at Denver. Ha

The point of this Invite tourney is to bring Rising Sons top Long Island talent to start the season off. Lets reserve judgment over whether it matters that one of your arbitrary top 3 aren't there for the Sons. . If Icon and Outlaws win against Behesda and Sons- heck even split the games, and play a great game vs each other, it will be very telling just how good LI is in the 2021 age bracket.

In the past, every team benefitted from the competition and made the tuning necessary to compete in their own circuits regionally. I'm hoping the same happens for every team in both 2020 and 2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many would agree that top Long Island teams numbers four and five are going to this tournament but not the best. In no order Igloo , Express and 91 are top three. As for numbers 4 and 5 Icon was just beat by Express who was using a 5th grade goalie. I was surprised on how good the Outlaws looked recently and we all know they added some new players this year and kept the core kids together and are playing well and have been able to compete with top talent. Many would also agree that Team Long Island is in the mix for top 6. Legacy may not belong. When they have the Express players they could challenge for a top 6 place but we all have seen this past weekend what they are without Express kids playing for them. This mid Atlantic Tourney should be fun but it would have been nice if the top 3 Long Island teams were going.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really FANTASTIC Showcase for the 2015 Mid Atlantic Madness Tourney!

Great way to match up top notch mid Atlantic teams with excellent LI teams before their respective summer seasons begin.

2021- This is a really great opportunity for rising LI teams like ICON Orange and Outlaws Black. The invite came after Igloo and Wolverines were forced out due to date change.

No matter what any of you crack pipes say- both of the two newly invited LI teams are in the mix for top 4-7 of the best LI teams in 2021 year. We will see this summer for sure. Team LI and Legacy Blue Knights are the only other club teams that could crack the top 7 for now. That assumes we can agree that Igloo Black Ice, Team 91 Orange amd Express Wolverines are the top 3. Fact is- ICON and Outlaws are closing the gap and both should fare well next weekend and benefit tremendously from playing the Sons, Bethesda and Hawks.

This gives some of the other top LI teams a chance to compete early on against the top tier mid atlantic -Rising Sons and Bethesda Blue. The Sons amd Bethesda provide excellent matchups for ICON and Outlaws and I bet the games turn out to be excellent. . The Annapolis Hawks won plenty of championships with the team they apparently are submitting. BBL Elite is a great Nj team but lost to those LI teams last year in several tourneys. Still- they are an Elite team - collected from several NJ areas.

It's gonna be another great tourney and every team can learn from the top talent and make adjustments in time for the LAX season.

Hopefully the weather plays out more like spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Line up at 2021 has changed because of the date shift. Although the same teams were invited a few now could not make 4/18 work. Here is the lineup.
2020: Sons, Crabs, Loonies, Express, Legacy, fl$
2021: Sons, Bethesda, Hawks, Icon, Outlaws, BBL

2020 Division- Long Island teams will play Sons, Crabs and Loonies

Looking forward to hearing about these games! Going to be good competition and a solid way to measure a teams strength and weaknesses so they can prepare and strengthen before summer tournament season.

Common your comments are ridiculous..wolves were short 8 players. .and had 4 5th graders helping out including the goalie. U r assuming the 2 big middies are older and they have been with the team the past 3 years. Both know personally and they are legit 6 graders..just have good genes..Don't hate on a very good team..All four coaches have done a great job..including MC and JL..

please come out from under the table.

http://www.cdc.gov/growthcharts/data/set1clinical/cj41l021.pdf

how many 5th graders (10-11yrs old) were playing? "Good genes"?

Averages are just that. Higher end of the curve=lower percentage of the population.

Express's "good genes" coupled with "good recruiting"..... and it still doesn't make sense based on the average height/weight for 12 year olds. Too many kids seem to be on the high end of the curve.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Common your comments are ridiculous..wolves were short 8 players. .and had 4 5th graders helping out including the goalie. U r assuming the 2 big middies are older and they have been with the team the past 3 years. Both know personally and they are legit 6 graders..just have good genes..Don't hate on a very good team..All four coaches have done a great job..including MC and JL..

So MC and JL are coaching 2022, 2021 and 2018 Terps? Oh and the 2019 Wolverines??

How is that gonna work out?

For the idiot that wrote that the coaches kid is still Starting on defense with MC and JL

Is Express Wolves roster now up to 25 to 28 kids? That is what people are saying. Is that possible for a 6th grade team?

U people are ridiculous! Sometimes two grades practice together so there appears to be more players. MC coaches 2021 and 2022. Find something real to complain about.

Heard From Express parents the Wolves are up to around 27 kids. Nothing wrong with trying to confirm this. The only reason to be upset about it if it is true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U people are ridiculous! Sometimes two grades practice together so there appears to be more players. MC coaches 2021 and 2022. Find something real to complain about.

I personally think all of these comments regarding express are from express just trying to keep their name out there in this message board... Enough no one cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Common your comments are ridiculous..wolves were short 8 players. .and had 4 5th graders helping out including the goalie. U r assuming the 2 big middies are older and they have been with the team the past 3 years. Both know personally and they are legit 6 graders..just have good genes..Don't hate on a very good team..All four coaches have done a great job..including MC and JL..

You're actually ridiculous because the last person said you were short the goalie and two defensemen. Then it's they were short 8 players. As for the good gene comment, I won't disagree out of respect for the players but for the record he is not in 6th grade which I also don't have a problem with. The problem everyone has is denial.

Express 2021 team 1 has 20 players. That's it. Whoever u heard from is not a express parent. Why is everybody so worried about this team. It's comical. People always hate winners.

I know Express, 91 Orange and Igloo back out of Tournaments if any of the top 10 kids can't make it. Could that be why they backed out of the Big Tournament the Sons are having this Weekend? Have to respect teams who I know are going there missing players.

So if MC does the same with the playing time only playing his select group all game how is that different from what you say the old coaches did?
Why is it about only the coaches ? Not MC why don't you have a problem with him doing the same thing,
You just showed you have a personal issue with them and supposedly your kid wasn't even on the team.
Enough already if it doesn't involve you move on.
The only thing you look like you care about is tarnishing someone's
Reputation, your not worried about someone's kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if MC does the same with the playing time only playing his select group all game how is that different from what you say the old coaches did?
Why is it about only the coaches ? Not MC why don't you have a problem with him doing the same thing,
You just showed you have a personal issue with them and supposedly your kid wasn't even on the team.
Enough already if it doesn't involve you move on.
The only thing you look like you care about is tarnishing someone's
Reputation, your not worried about someone's kid.

Your right that I dont know whats going on their right now. But I notice you have never denied they only used to play three kids at attack and put the rest on a fourth middy line.

Stupid comment..If u are missing 10 players..u are missing half your team..

Give it a rest already. You have a hang up that may need some professional help. "LACES OUT, Dan!!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know Express, 91 Orange and Igloo back out of Tournaments if any of the top 10 kids can't make it. Could that be why they backed out of the Big Tournament the Sons are having this Weekend? Have to respect teams who I know are going there missing players.

Or maybe they just felt they could stay home and play one another and get just as good competition. LI has some of the top teams. While it is nice for the teams to play kids from around the country, it isn't always necessary to find top teams to play. I gather they just had other things going on and couldn't travel on the make up date. I certainly don't think any of those teams are hiding.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know Express, 91 Orange and Igloo back out of Tournaments if any of the top 10 kids can't make it. Could that be why they backed out of the Big Tournament the Sons are having this Weekend? Have to respect teams who I know are going there missing players.

Or maybe they just felt they could stay home and play one another and get just as good competition. LI has some of the top teams. While it is nice for the teams to play kids from around the country, it isn't always necessary to find top teams to play. I gather they just had other things going on and couldn't travel on the make up date. I certainly don't think any of those teams are hiding.

That was a good laugh. Maybe "they felt they could stay home and play one another and get just as good"?
Igloo Black, Express Wolves and 91 Orange would not play each other until they must in one or two of the LI summer tourneys.
The Mid Atlantic Madness - Rising Sons tourney features two teams, one from PA and one from MD that went to the nationals and several regional tourneys. They did quite well and many would argue- they are the cream of the crop for those states.

Long Island is sending, as has been debated on this thread ad nasauem, perhaps the 4th and 5th best teams in the 2021 division. However, Icon Orange, and Outlaws Black- both apparently playing shorthanded (missing all the soccer kids) still accepted the Invitational and will bring all they got to challenge the Sons and Bethesda.

The reality is, I hope ICON and Outlaws kick [lacrosse] down there and show just exactly how deep and talented the Long Island region is. It takes courage to go down before the season actually gets going and play top competition. Just like we commend Igloo, Express and 91 for doing it. I couldn't think of two better teams to represent LI once Igloo and the Wolves were forced out due to date change.

Hopefully we hear some good news down there tmrw. I also hear ICON is now playing Outlaws. That is a great matchup - regardless that they are missing all the top notch soccer athletes

Hey I just heard that igloo black ice, express wolves and 91 heat/orange, in that order are the top teams in the nation. Just saying..HAhahaha.
You people are funny. Playing for these teams is awesome.. top notch everything. And they are all playing each other in long island in the next few weeks..starting next weekend and including sons at a later date. Thanks. Icon and outlaws are not too shabby either.

One has to admire any team who does not count their players and play even short handed. The Sons went to Florida short handed. Those missing players will be there tomorrow. Should be a great day no matter what happens. Good luck to all the teams who agreed to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know Express, 91 Orange and Igloo back out of Tournaments if any of the top 10 kids can't make it. Could that be why they backed out of the Big Tournament the Sons are having this Weekend? Have to respect teams who I know are going there missing players.

Or maybe they just felt they could stay home and play one another and get just as good competition. LI has some of the top teams. While it is nice for the teams to play kids from around the country, it isn't always necessary to find top teams to play. I gather they just had other things going on and couldn't travel on the make up date. I certainly don't think any of those teams are hiding.

That was a good laugh. Maybe "they felt they could stay home and play one another and get just as good"?
Igloo Black, Express Wolves and 91 Orange would not play each other until they must in one or two of the LI summer tourneys.
The Mid Atlantic Madness - Rising Sons tourney features two teams, one from PA and one from MD that went to the nationals and several regional tourneys. They did quite well and many would argue- they are the cream of the crop for those states.

Long Island is sending, as has been debated on this thread ad nasauem, perhaps the 4th and 5th best teams in the 2021 division. However, Icon Orange, and Outlaws Black- both apparently playing shorthanded (missing all the soccer kids) still accepted the Invitational and will bring all they got to challenge the Sons and Bethesda.

The reality is, I hope ICON and Outlaws kick [lacrosse] down there and show just exactly how deep and talented the Long Island region is. It takes courage to go down before the season actually gets going and play top competition. Just like we commend Igloo, Express and 91 for doing it. I couldn't think of two better teams to represent LI once Igloo and the Wolves were forced out due to date change.

Hopefully we hear some good news down there tmrw. I also hear ICON is now playing Outlaws. That is a great matchup - regardless that they are missing all the top notch soccer athletes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know Express, 91 Orange and Igloo back out of Tournaments if any of the top 10 kids can't make it. Could that be why they backed out of the Big Tournament the Sons are having this Weekend? Have to respect teams who I know are going there missing players.

Or maybe they just felt they could stay home and play one another and get just as good competition. LI has some of the top teams. While it is nice for the teams to play kids from around the country, it isn't always necessary to find top teams to play. I gather they just had other things going on and couldn't travel on the make up date. I certainly don't think any of those teams are hiding.

That was a good laugh. Maybe "they felt they could stay home and play one another and get just as good"?
Igloo Black, Express Wolves and 91 Orange would not play each other until they must in one or two of the LI summer tourneys.
The Mid Atlantic Madness - Rising Sons tourney features two teams, one from PA and one from MD that went to the nationals and several regional tourneys. They did quite well and many would argue- they are the cream of the crop for those states.

Long Island is sending, as has been debated on this thread ad nasauem, perhaps the 4th and 5th best teams in the 2021 division. However, Icon Orange, and Outlaws Black- both apparently playing shorthanded (missing all the soccer kids) still accepted the Invitational and will bring all they got to challenge the Sons and Bethesda.

The reality is, I hope ICON and Outlaws kick [lacrosse] down there and show just exactly how deep and talented the Long Island region is. It takes courage to go down before the season actually gets going and play top competition. Just like we commend Igloo, Express and 91 for doing it. I couldn't think of two better teams to represent LI once Igloo and the Wolves were forced out due to date change.

Hopefully we hear some good news down there tmrw. I also hear ICON is now playing Outlaws. That is a great matchup - regardless that they are missing all the top notch soccer athletes

Why dont the Outlaws and Icon just get out of their cars once traffic stops and scrimmage on the Belt Parkway ?

So we should be excited that the Outlaws are playing Icon in Rising Sons tournament in the spring? Those are the top two 2021 teams?

They are missing their "top notch soccer atheletes".

Really? That excuse is already being floated out here.

How about the Outlaws and Icon just play locally on a day when all those soccer athletes can make it and save the road trip?

Where are the Wolverines playing this weekend?

Sons are coming up May 16th to play Igloo, Express and Hopefully 91. They actually asked if they could come up. Regardless of what you think of the Sons they are looking to battle anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So we should be excited that the Outlaws are playing Icon in Rising Sons tournament in the spring? Those are the top two 2021 teams?

They are missing their "top notch soccer atheletes".

Really? That excuse is already being floated out here.

Enough hating you people are ridiculous. Get a hobby

Legacy look strong losing to wolves 13-2 and the rest of 2021 bracket!! Lol

3 are playing with the outlaws.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy look strong losing to wolves 13-2 and the rest of 2021 bracket!! Lol

Aren't they suppose to be a A team. I still remember all those happy legacy parents from 2 years ago. How's that Kool add taste now, still yummy ?

Pick the coming post(s):

Losing team posts:
They only won because:
(A) We were missing 10 of our starters due to more important soccer obligations (B) They had kids from another team (team _x__ playing with them).
(C) They had older kids/we had younger kids. Holdbacks etc.
(D) They play dirty and we are angels.
(E) The officials were paid off.

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

How was Rising Sons tournament. How did LI teams perform?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How was Rising Sons tournament. How did LI teams perform?

Sons had a great showing today, beautiful weather and ended the day in an intense game with Icon. It was a real nail biter up and down right until the end...can't wait until we play them again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

Embarasing for Outlaws. Was this their "B" team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

Embarasing for Outlaws. Was this their "B" team?

Why would the sons ask the outlaws? It's almost like playing the honey badgers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

Embarasing for Outlaws. Was this their "B" team?

Heard Outlaws lost 12-1, 13-1, and 15-2.

Sons only beat Icon by 2, Express will kill you.

At Blatant a couple of weeks ago Express beat Icon only 6-4. Looks like Sons Express will be a good game.

There were a bunch of kids playing for Icon who had different helmets and scored all or most of Icons goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

Embarasing for Outlaws. Was this their "B" team?

Heard Outlaws lost 12-1, 13-1, and 15-2.

Outlaws lost 12-2, 11-2, 13-3, these aren't much better but are accurate.

Thank you Sons for having this great tournament. There was a lot of talent on display from all teams. There was no drama and everyone got along. I as a parent was very impressed with the way the parents from all teams acted. There was class on and off the field. Even the coaches from all the teams acted great. I wish all the negative and combative lacrosse parents and coaches could have seen these games. They would have leaned a lot.

Those boys with the different helmets are new to the team. Our helmets did not come in yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There were a bunch of kids playing for Icon who had different helmets and scored all or most of Icons goals.

Helmets are optional at ICON and equipment is not in yet for summer season. They also played in practice pinneys for the same reason. All the kids were 100% ICON kids.

Sons 13, Outlaws 2
Bethesda 9, Icon 4
Sons 8, Bethesda 5
Icon 9, Outlaws 2
Bethesda 14, Outlaws 3 (10-0 at half�..)
Sons 5, Icon 3

Outlaws seem to be more of a Recreational Team

Because 91 wouldn't come

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

Embarasing for Outlaws. Was this their "B" team?

Heard Outlaws lost 12-1, 13-1, and 15-2.

Outlaws lost 12-2, 11-2, 13-3, these aren't much better but are accurate.

Dont forgot the 7-6 Heartbreaking loss in the last game to the Honeybadgers

Great Long Island showing. Maybe think about staying home and just playing each other locally next time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

Embarasing for Outlaws. Was this their "B" team?

Heard Outlaws lost 12-1, 13-1, and 15-2.

Outlaws lost 12-2, 11-2, 13-3, these aren't much better but are accurate.

Dont forgot the 7-6 Heartbreaking loss in the last game to the Honeybadgers

Yes, that's all anyone is thinking about this morning. Get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great Long Island showing. Maybe think about staying home and just playing each other locally next time.

why because we didn't win? You don't have to win to have a great game. I for one am glad we went. The ride wasn't bad and it was a beautiful day. Sons and Bethesda were great competition and a great way to start the season. I hope to have them here soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There were a bunch of kids playing for Icon who had different helmets and scored all or most of Icons goals.

Icon is a summer travel team. that was literally the third time they've played together. Their helmets aren't in yet but all the kids are Icon players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons only beat Icon by 2, Express will kill you.

Lol express beat icon by two goals too so what are you trying to say ? Of course another express parent trying to keep express's name on here.

Don't worry pops the season coming we'll all play for real soon. Be careful what you wish for

This is accurate:

2021
Saturday, April 18, 2015
BETHESDA LC-2021 BLUE 9
ICON 4
BETHESDA LC-2021 BLUE 12
Long Island Outlaws 0
Rising Sons 2021 12
Long Island Outlaws 2
Rising Sons 2021 8
BETHESDA LC-2021 BLUE 5
Rising Sons 2021 5
ICON 3

[quote=Anonymous]This is accurate:

2021
Saturday, April 18, 2015
BETHESDA LC-2021 BLUE 9
ICON 4
BETHESDA LC-2021 BLUE 12
Long Island Outlaws 0
Rising Sons 2021 12
Long Island Outlaws 2
Rising Sons 2021 8
BETHESDA LC-2021 BLUE 5
Rising Sons 2021 5
ICON 3

ICON 11 LI Outlaws 2

U mean when u were beat by express with the help of some 5th graders was not for real. Get over it. You are not that good this year. And you are losing your best player next season. Ouch!!!

Our "BEST" player wasn't there yesterday either.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U mean when u were beat by express with the help of some 5th graders was not for real. Get over it. You are not that good this year. And you are losing your best player next season. Ouch!!!

this is obviously another irrelevant express parent who just continue to post here hoping someone will pay attention to them. Notice not one 91 or Igloo parent is on here constantly talking about how they won with 5th graders. Maybe you should follow their example. Because let's be honest your team has no shot against either or those teams so just come to terms with the fact you'll always be third.

Funny that all the negativity is coming from parents from a team who wasn't even at the tournament. It was a great day of lacrosse and we for one are glad that your team decided not to play yesterday.

Do you really think that's an express parent?
Can't be- it's just some hater trying to start a
Club . It's probaly the same negative poster
Who complains and supposedly does not have
a kid on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you really think that's an express parent?
Can't be- it's just some hater trying to start a
Club . It's probaly the same negative poster
Who complains and supposedly does not have
a kid on the team.

Nobody is complaining, bringing up factual events is just that. Notice at no point did you refute these claims, just attacked the poster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you really think that's an express parent?
Can't be- it's just some hater trying to start a
Club . It's probaly the same negative poster
Who complains and supposedly does not have
a kid on the team.

Nobody is complaining, bringing up factual events is just that. Notice at no point did you refute these claims, just attacked the poster.

What claims are you expecting someone to refute?

Winning one game by two goals is not enough to say one team is better than another. Express beating Icon by two a couple of weeks ago is not enough to say Express is better. Just as one tournament in the Spring where kids are missing is not enough info to say one team is better than another or even one team is good or bad. In PA yesterday all teams were missing kids and one team had 14 or 15 kids. Anyone who knows about sports knows you can't say one team is the better team or the best by one tourney or game. You need to see results over an extended period of time. Icon has been a top team for years and still is. I'm sure icon and Express will play a few times this year and after that if it is important enough you can say which team is better but also need to know how they did the entire year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you really think that's an express parent?
Can't be- it's just some hater trying to start a
Club . It's probaly the same negative poster
Who complains and supposedly does not have
a kid on the team.

Nobody is complaining, bringing up factual events is just that. Notice at no point did you refute these claims, just attacked the poster.

What claims are you expecting someone to refute?

True or false, they used to play 3 kids at attack and use what most teams have as a second attack line and made it a 4th middy line. The results on playing time for even the second middy line was dire

I'm gonna try to use this for what it should be used for...I'm looking for a town tournament to enter my PAL. Something that doesn't interfer with travel so it has good competition, not looking for lopsided games. I guess I'm looking for somewhere the Bayshores, GC, Franklin Squares are playing. Can someone give me some ideas?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm gonna try to use this for what it should be used for...I'm looking for a town tournament to enter my PAL. Something that doesn't interfer with travel so it has good competition, not looking for lopsided games. I guess I'm looking for somewhere the Bayshores, GC, Franklin Squares are playing. Can someone give me some ideas?

Call the guys at bs I'm sure they'd host teams at their fields they used to in the past. When our 2019's were younger they would invite us out there. No need for tournaments when friendlies do the same thing. What town are you from? Just need to pay for pizza and refs.

This is 100 percent true. Two teams from Long Island Showed up to play. One team was missing the best player on the team and the other had about 15 players. Not sure if the 8 or so missing players were the better ones or not. This is not an excuse but just a fact. Truth is the top three teams from long Island were not at the tournament and chose not to play short handed. I'm sure they could have got 15 kids to show up and if not take a kid off the B teams just to play. Icon is one of the best teams around and at full strength can play with anyone. Even missing a top player they showed they can play with Elite teams outside Long Island. If your team was not there and you have never seen these other teams play you have no idea how good they are. Of the two teams the NY teams had to play one beat Igloo and the other lost by one goal to them two times in the past. We will see what happens in the Summer when all these teams play and we all hope the top Long Island teams have a chance to play MANY TIMES and represent Long Island. Beating any of these teams one time means nothing as far as who is the better team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning one game by two goals is not enough to say one team is better than another. Express beating Icon by two a couple of weeks ago is not enough to say Express is better. Just as one tournament in the Spring where kids are missing is not enough info to say one team is better than another or even one team is good or bad. In PA yesterday all teams were missing kids and one team had 14 or 15 kids. Anyone who knows about sports knows you can't say one team is the better team or the best by one tourney or game. You need to see results over an extended period of time. Icon has been a top team for years and still is. I'm sure icon and Express will play a few times this year and after that if it is important enough you can say which team is better but also need to know how they did the entire year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is 100 percent true. Two teams from Long Island Showed up to play. One team was missing the best player on the team and the other had about 15 players. Not sure if the 8 or so missing players were the better ones or not. This is not an excuse but just a fact. Truth is the top three teams from long Island were not at the tournament and chose not to play short handed. I'm sure they could have got 15 kids to show up and if not take a kid off the B teams just to play. Icon is one of the best teams around and at full strength can play with anyone. Even missing a top player they showed they can play with Elite teams outside Long Island. If your team was not there and you have never seen these other teams play you have no idea how good they are. Of the two teams the NY teams had to play one beat Igloo and the other lost by one goal to them two times in the past. We will see what happens in the Summer when all these teams play and we all hope the top Long Island teams have a chance to play MANY TIMES and represent Long Island. Beating any of these teams one time means nothing as far as who is the better team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning one game by two goals is not enough to say one team is better than another. Express beating Icon by two a couple of weeks ago is not enough to say Express is better. Just as one tournament in the Spring where kids are missing is not enough info to say one team is better than another or even one team is good or bad. In PA yesterday all teams were missing kids and one team had 14 or 15 kids. Anyone who knows about sports knows you can't say one team is the better team or the best by one tourney or game. You need to see results over an extended period of time. Icon has been a top team for years and still is. I'm sure icon and Express will play a few times this year and after that if it is important enough you can say which team is better but also need to know how they did the entire year.

I am also in agreement with what this person has stated. These teams are very comparable and 1 game does not mean much of anything in terms of status. For example, this time last year, ICON and Sons played each other in a close game where ICON emerged victorious over the Sons. That doesn't take anything away from how good the Sons are. In fact, that same day I remember the Sons beating Igloo. Does that mean Igloo isn't a top team or that the Sons and ICON are better than Igloo? There's no way you can draw such a conclusion from a game or a day of games. We are lucky to have such good competition for our boys at this age, and we should take full advantage of it and enjoy it along the way. It doesn't last forever.

2021 91 orange will beat everyone this year with their new team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is 100 percent true. Two teams from Long Island Showed up to play. One team was missing the best player on the team and the other had about 15 players. Not sure if the 8 or so missing players were the better ones or not. This is not an excuse but just a fact. Truth is the top three teams from long Island were not at the tournament and chose not to play short handed. I'm sure they could have got 15 kids to show up and if not take a kid off the B teams just to play. Icon is one of the best teams around and at full strength can play with anyone. Even missing a top player they showed they can play with Elite teams outside Long Island. If your team was not there and you have never seen these other teams play you have no idea how good they are. Of the two teams the NY teams had to play one beat Igloo and the other lost by one goal to them two times in the past. We will see what happens in the Summer when all these teams play and we all hope the top Long Island teams have a chance to play MANY TIMES and represent Long Island. Beating any of these teams one time means nothing as far as who is the better team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning one game by two goals is not enough to say one team is better than another. Express beating Icon by two a couple of weeks ago is not enough to say Express is better. Just as one tournament in the Spring where kids are missing is not enough info to say one team is better than another or even one team is good or bad. In PA yesterday all teams were missing kids and one team had 14 or 15 kids. Anyone who knows about sports knows you can't say one team is the better team or the best by one tourney or game. You need to see results over an extended period of time. Icon has been a top team for years and still is. I'm sure icon and Express will play a few times this year and after that if it is important enough you can say which team is better but also need to know how they did the entire year.

I am also in agreement with what this person has stated. These teams are very comparable and 1 game does not mean much of anything in terms of status. For example, this time last year, ICON and Sons played each other in a close game where ICON emerged victorious over the Sons. That doesn't take anything away from how good the Sons are. In fact, that same day I remember the Sons beating Igloo. Does that mean Igloo isn't a top team or that the Sons and ICON are better than Igloo? There's no way you can draw such a conclusion from a game or a day of games. We are lucky to have such good competition for our boys at this age, and we should take full advantage of it and enjoy it along the way. It doesn't last forever.

Now that Berry is on 91 they will dominate .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons beat Outlaws 12-2, Beat Bethesda 8-5 and Icon 5-3

what grade are we talking about?

Funny

The Sons, Bethesda and the Crabs all should come to Lax Fest to play LI's "top 3!" Are those three even going to LaxFest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that Berry is on 91 they will dominate .....

I think they all picked up TLIs top player this ear as well. Thats adding at least two elite players. Im still going to give Igloo the edge thought till 91 can prove otherwise. i think Igloo deserves that.

Has 91 played anyone in the Spring yet? I know Orange won a tourney in the fall but after that I have not heard anything. I'm sure they will be a top team but I do know a few kids that made the team that should not be on an elite team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that Berry is on 91 they will dominate .....

I think they all picked up TLIs top player this ear as well. Thats adding at least two elite players. Im still going to give Igloo the edge thought till 91 can prove otherwise. i think Igloo deserves that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that Berry is on 91 they will dominate .....

Is he taking Moe and Larry with him?

Depends upon the roster size... You can probably say that for ALL elite teams. Where's the cut-off?

Sons 2021's are coming. Seek and destroy mission

Love the haters that hide behind "Anonymous" but yet use other people's real names
What's your name Jack Meoff
Let's guess played at No Name University and is that parent that always points out what should've been done and critiques everything from the opposite sideline
Why don't you stick to what you do whatever that is clearly not coaching
Anyone that's involved in coaching knows your never keeping everyone happy but enough already
Let's get back to the discussion of top teams in 2021

Kids on 91 have real coaching they will show their talent.
Remember the kids you think should not of made that team.
And give an honest update end of the season.

I have not seen a change yet in PAL but I do know 91 does have great coaching and are one of the best teams. So yes I expect them to improve because they are on 91 but still surprised they made such a good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kids on 91 have real coaching they will show their talent.
Remember the kids you think should not of made that team.
And give an honest update end of the season.

I would say the same for your kid in PAL

You know this is not a post from the Sons, stop causing drama

Bethesda 2021 coming to Laxfest and the LI teams coming to Maryland for an event - plenty of head to head this summer. Bethesda coach is freeport / navy guy. Strong island everywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons 2021's are coming. Seek and destroy mission

now that's funny

Any teams going to pro player on May 2nd?

Has "Team Igloo Avalanche" played yet?

They played one game in a NJ tournament before they called it due to weather.

Sons just got caught playing with 7th graders on their 2021 team, have had them on the team for over 18 months. Unfortunately I would say that taints any wins they may have had over any teams including the LI teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons just got caught playing with 7th graders on their 2021 team, have had them on the team for over 18 months. Unfortunately I would say that taints any wins they may have had over any teams including the LI teams.

Not surprising. How'd they get caught?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons just got caught playing with 7th graders on their 2021 team, have had them on the team for over 18 months. Unfortunately I would say that taints any wins they may have had over any teams including the LI teams.

Why express has them too? As long as their birthdates qualify what's the problem?

2021 means all kids are in 6th grade. One of the Son's parents said that a few of the kids who played this past weekend were not able to play in Florida against Igloo because of age. I know the Maryland team had hold backs but not sure of the ages. Fact is Icon and Outlaws are correct age. Icon has some very big players that I know are the correct age and correct birth date and those big players would be average to below average size on the two other teams. But it does not matter because the Long Island kids learned a lot playing these teams who were top teams with great players regardless of age. The more Long Island teams play these teams the better the kids will get and that is what it is all about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons just got caught playing with 7th graders on their 2021 team, have had them on the team for over 18 months. Unfortunately I would say that taints any wins they may have had over any teams including the LI teams.

Why express has them too? As long as their birthdates qualify what's the problem?

You sound like such a loser and have no clue. Express has been playing these Maryland teams already since March and have no 7th graders period on the 2021. The ones with 5-6 actual 7th graders is igloo black ice. Confirmed by their schoolmates. And 91 orange has about 30 players on their team. The rest of you are just the rest of you. Don't be sore losers. But no matter what u guys say..The top 3 teams igloo, express and 91 have top notch coaching and push for top notch competition all the time. So please give it a rest.

Yep they caught us. With two local kids with names on their jerseys sounds like our team was really be deceptive. Two boys reclassing in the Fall, both late summer birthdays. Wont be 13 until late summer. Two 5th grade poles start over the 7th grade pole if that tells you anything. By no means a competitive advantage at all. But, at least you will have an excuse now. We will be sure do have all our kids report cards on hand when we play. And there was one kid that couldn't go to Florida. The rest couldnt go because of previous obligations. But with a 6/1 date now they all will be there.

If we keep moving up the cut off date no kids will have to reclass. Man up like the real sports and have kids play by birth year. Stop coddling your babies- he was young and won't turn 13 until end of summer- who cares? LI boys don't turn 13 until winter months anyway. Hockey and baseball does it right- none of this pansy stuff- you can compete with your own birth year or you can't. If you can't there are other options. You can't hack it in school? No issue- repeat but you still play with your birth year. What is it with parents making kids so soft???

And for the record- who cares if they are reclassing in the Fall??? They have not yet- put the kids where they belong until they do.

SOme of the teams you played have kids who be 12 till the summer. Are you telling me yo uhave two kids staying back and repeating a year in school ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep they caught us. With two local kids with names on their jerseys sounds like our team was really be deceptive. Two boys reclassing in the Fall, both late summer birthdays. Wont be 13 until late summer. Two 5th grade poles start over the 7th grade pole if that tells you anything. By no means a competitive advantage at all. But, at least you will have an excuse now. We will be sure do have all our kids report cards on hand when we play. And there was one kid that couldn't go to Florida. The rest couldnt go because of previous obligations. But with a 6/1 date now they all will be there.

Right how its summer kids reclassifying for an advantage. But if a kid born in July repeats a year to get a physical advantage, would not the same apply to a kid born in Jan? Like recruiting that keeps getting younger soon 7th grade teams will be filled with 15 year olds. Well if you reclassifying Jimmy then Bobby is doing the same thing.

Unless lacrosse starts to implement the procedures football follows then you're beating a dead horse... Who cares!!! 2 players don't make a team. This has to be a outlaw parent stirring the pot to justify the whopping they took.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons just got caught playing with 7th graders on their 2021 team, have had them on the team for over 18 months. Unfortunately I would say that taints any wins they may have had over any teams including the LI teams.

Why express has them too? As long as their birthdates qualify what's the problem?

You're an [lacrosse]. Was the game billed as u13 or 2021. If 2021 that is the issue. All must be 2021 not 2020 at the time.

If it was billed as 2021 it is cheating. But Lacrosse refuses to enforce any of the age rules anyway. I have never seen such an obvious disregard of concern. What is it going to take? At least football and baseball show interest in actually enforcing some age rules.

Ever heard of Integrity? Entire team of Parents apparently have none. You can blame the coach for allowing it, but every Parent on team should be ashamed and embarrassed for knowingly allowing it.

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

But I guess this is an isolated incident and the 7th grade team that played last weekend was totally legit? Yeah right...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

But I guess this is an isolated incident and the 7th grade team that played last weekend was totally legit? Yeah right...

13 yo playing 11 yo

9/1 should be the date. period. same as school. if you chose to hold you kid back for perceived/real/necessary reasons/advantages, no problem, but if he is going to compete in youth sports, especially contact sports, he should compete with and against kids his own age. Tough to have it both ways--advantages of being older but forever competing with and against kids not necessarily his friends in school because he is in a different grade--well, something to consider with your next child then... it does all work itself out once they are in college and have all matured and grown but not at the youth level--there is a DISTINCT advantage in prepubescent and pubescent years for kids that are older--even 9 months--forget about 18 months. Its just not right.

Good for the Mid-Atlantic Spring League.

If it's a grade based tournament, you simply should not be able to play with a kid in an older grade, regardless of age (without a waiver).

PS - I think it's crazy - generally - to reclass to repeat 7th grade. No problem with that kid that age going into a younger grade as a 4-5 year old. Sad that it makes sense lacrosse-wise. Look at the registrations for Summer Exposure and it's incredible how many 2021 teams can't qualify for the U12 (U13B) division or 2018 teams can't qualify for U15.

PPS - I think it's BS that [lacrosse]'s is moving from an 8/1 cutoff date to a 6/1 cutoff date. That means, in December 2016, I could add one of my former 2020's to my U13/2021 team. He's already a total man among boys at age 12. At age 14 in the Fall of his 9th grade year, he'll be probably starting his second season of playing HS football, basketball and lacrosse. That's insane.

Sons 2020 is all 7th graders. Their rosters were obviously checked twice now and verified as they play in the same league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons 2020 is all 7th graders. Their rosters were obviously checked twice now and verified as they play in the same league.

again, don't know what 7th graders means anymore...philly area coaches know

Bravo

Its not grade based its Grad based. Every form filled out asks for Grad year and birth date. Thats it

Its ok for Freedom 2020 to have a kid who turned 14 in February and is the biggest kid in the league? Talk about principles? Liteally 5'10" and 190lbs. Playing against 12 year olds? that makes sense.

That is nothing I heard Mesa Fever has a kid who turned 14 in October 2014 and is on their 2020 team. Playing against 12 year olds? FACT

Really 14 and playing 2021. My son is 14 and playing 2018. Wont be 15 for 5 months. This is getting out of hand. He was a late bloomer also and now is 6foot 150. So I cant imagine a 14 year old who might have hit puberty early playing vs 11 year olds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

@ Larry Miller can this info be confirmed ???

Probably not from the league. Leagues do not like to have egg on their face. My opinion is it is true, but factually I can't confirm.

It is in fact from the League. Here is the whole email from the League Director:

Dear Coaches and Club Directors,

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

Sincerely,

Jeff Baxter
League Director

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is in fact from the League. Here is the whole email from the League Director:

Dear Coaches and Club Directors,

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

Sincerely,

Jeff Baxter
League Director

KUDOS TO THE LEAGUE ....VERY SAD CHEATING IN YOUTH LACROSSE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really 14 and playing 2021. My son is 14 and playing 2018. Wont be 15 for 5 months. This is getting out of hand. He was a late bloomer also and now is 6foot 150. So I cant imagine a 14 year old who might have hit puberty early playing vs 11 year olds.

he said kid was 2020. still really old for that grade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is in fact from the League. Here is the whole email from the League Director:

Dear Coaches and Club Directors,

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

Sincerely,

Jeff Baxter
League Director

KUDOS TO THE LEAGUE ....VERY SAD CHEATING IN YOUTH LACROSSE

How sad that they felt the need to cheat. Makes you question all their other teams, as kids have said they were older during conversations on the field, while coaches and parents denied it. If you ask me, Sons are shady . It's a shame because they seemed like a good start up club with good intentions. Now their teams and wins will always be questioned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its not grade based its Grad based. Every form filled out asks for Grad year and birth date. Thats it

Every tournament director is updating their websites to say 2021 (6th grade).

Bottom line , if playing older boys wasn't an ADVANTAGE
Then why do it? Stop telling us how many 5th graders you have, thats honorable but to then think balancing the roster with 7th graders makes it ok is a disgrace. The coaches and Parents that allow this and put kids in a dangerous situation should ask themselves would they like to have their sons play vs older more mature boys. I think we know the answer It's going to take a major injury caused by a player that is playing Down and results in a lawsuit where the coach and parents are held accountable for the injury for this to stop.
Have integrity people!

Maybe if you saw the kids their size, skill and age you wouldn't be so judgemental. They are younger than many other kids in the league.

This is not accurate, the Sons 2020 team has 2 kids who are currently in 8th grade but are hoping to stay back next year.

We just played this Freedom team, they don't have a kid this big??

Unfortunately the Director of their program has sent an email out stating that "holding kids back is what all the top clubs do" and he feels no remorse. He was seen on the sidelines last weekend telling another team "you do not belong on the field with us"....this was said to 6th graders.

Rising Sons was caught cheating and cares about nothing but their 2021 team and if they win. Their kids play arrogant and currently they are attempting to defame every other club program in Philadelphia. Their director sent an email out stating that "The Sons Changes Lives"....CRAZY!!

I thought the top clubs do hold kids back? No? Sounds like the Philly area is crying over spilled milk. Trying to knock the big dog off their horse. I know NOONE reclasses on Long Island but its done here an Virginia like a rite of passage.

Reclassing is not the issue. The issue is allowing a 5th grader who may reclass to start playing 4th grade lacrosse now as opposed to waiting until he actually moves back.

Way to go BH, no class, spewing lies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately the Director of their program has sent an email out stating that "holding kids back is what all the top clubs do" and he feels no remorse. He was seen on the sidelines last weekend telling another team "you do not belong on the field with us"....this was said to 6th graders.

Don't know who or what BH is but I do know nothing that has been said on here about Rising Sons is inaccurate. I thought they would be good for the area but once I watched them recruit, calling kids and parents over and over and over, and also talking to kids at tournaments playing for other teams my opinion changed. It's unfortunate that they have such a bad reputation because their teams are good, it will all change when news of their integrity problems get out.

If parents want to redshirt kids, that is fine. All leagues are going age based I am told. Peace

Sons just got caught cheating, funny how the first message says they have no reclassed kids but were just caught for them last week! Not only were they caught but their owner said everyone does it and they shouldn't be punished for it....liar liar

Their new slogan: Rising Sons, striving to do exactly what others do! Sons' Parents, it will be tough to admonish little Johnny when he does something wrong and tells you, "but everyone else was doing it!" That brings up another potential slogan: Rising Sons "Leading" by Example.

Parents have to stop living through there kids. Why are they holding kids back? Kids are going to be 24 when graduating college. I vote for age based leagues.

Enough bashing teams lets get back to lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought the top clubs do hold kids back? No? Sounds like the Philly area is crying over spilled milk. Trying to knock the big dog off their horse. I know NOONE reclasses on Long Island but its done here an Virginia like a rite of passage.

I hate to sound ignorant but are these people actually having their children repeat an entire grade at school or is their a way they just play down ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons just got caught cheating, funny how the first message says they have no reclassed kids but were just caught for them last week! Not only were they caught but their owner said everyone does it and they shouldn't be punished for it....liar liar

I think they got caught with kids not playing grade-appropriate. Fact is that re-classing is completely acceptable in the world of lacrosse recruiting. So why is it wrong to have 8th graders on a 7th grade team, but ok to have 7th graders who should be in 8th grade on that same team? Sounds so ridiculous! Can't make this stuff up!

Tad, it does not matter. Rules are rules and you broke them and have been breaking them for quite a while. Size of the kid, while important in speaking about safety, does not matter in insurance exposure. IF a 7th grade boy was the smallest kid in a 6th grade league but he injured someone the parents would have legal precedence to sue the league, the coaches, and the other player's parents. Please stop trying to justify this and admit you CHEATED. AB was a starter and scored 2 to 3 goals per game, PB was not so please stop saying that both kids were not strong players and made your team weaker.

I have been playing and coaching lacrosse for 35 years and have seen the evolution of the reclassified student. Yes, some kids do stay back and unfortunately some do it solely for athletics. Others stay back for academic reasons and it happens to help them athletically. These reclassifications typically happen at the end of 8th grade and then the boy does 8th over again. What happened here was 2 7th grade boys parents told the Rising Sons coaches that they MAY stay back in a few years so the Sons coaches moved them now which is wrong. If the league/tournament is grade year then the kids can't move down until they join that class in a "few years".

Thinking about reclassing my 2021 to 2023. Maybe 2024?

This is getting a bit ridiculous.

Plus I believe Pa school cut off date is 6/1, which means anyone born after 6/1 is a 2022 already. What does grade mean anymore when you could have a 14yo 6th grader?

Where is the wolfpack 2021 from that is playing in the Spring Lax Jam?

Raleigh, NC

Your an idiot. Age is the decider

He is younger than the majority of your kids. Mind your own business

Funny thing is that they both weren't good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have been playing and coaching lacrosse for 35 years and have seen the evolution of the reclassified student. Yes, some kids do stay back and unfortunately some do it solely for athletics. Others stay back for academic reasons and it happens to help them athletically. These reclassifications typically happen at the end of 8th grade and then the boy does 8th over again. What happened here was 2 7th grade boys parents told the Rising Sons coaches that they MAY stay back in a few years so the Sons coaches moved them now which is wrong. If the league/tournament is grade year then the kids can't move down until they join that class in a "few years".

No excuses. Sons have older kids on their 2020 team as well. They had a good thing going until they were exposed. It's all about winning to Tad!

who was the team in the brown uniforms that played 2021 outlaws in blatant championship. I'm trying to get my son on that team anyone know who they are or who their coaches are?

Strong Island Saints.
i believe Katz is the coach.

the guy from the old wild Katz team?! saints ok thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tad, it does not matter. Rules are rules and you broke them and have been breaking them for quite a while. Size of the kid, while important in speaking about safety, does not matter in insurance exposure. IF a 7th grade boy was the smallest kid in a 6th grade league but he injured someone the parents would have legal precedence to sue the league, the coaches, and the other player's parents. Please stop trying to justify this and admit you CHEATED. AB was a starter and scored 2 to 3 goals per game, PB was not so please stop saying that both kids were not strong players and made your team weaker.

That is the crux of it. I think so many families in various states are fed up with unethical practice or out right cheating- that if a kid gets hurt by a player assigned to the wrong team based on grade or age- there will be lawsuits to follow. Kids get hurt all the time- but if a certain team, club, league bends the rules for themselves- there is an open chance that there will be much bigger problems down the road to deal with. Just play within the rules. If a kid reclasses, then they can play with the younger grade legally. If they have plans to do so in the future- don't risk it- not worth the implications when outed and possible financial consequences as well. A tarnished reputation is hard to fix as well.

who's the top ten 2021 teams for the summer. be legitimate club or pick up team. and we all know they're out there

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. 91 Heat
4. Green Turtle
5. Bethesda
6. Express
7. Hawks
8. Icon
9. Cannons
10. Igloo B

I like that top ten.

Well thanks for your two cents

I was gonna say The Saints were on the top of the list.but I see outlaws Black didn't make this list either.
you may want to add in school programs as well in this top 10. SWR

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. 91 Heat
4. Green Turtle
5. Bethesda
6. Express
7. Hawks
8. Icon
9. Cannons
10. Igloo B [/quote]

2021 means all players must graduate in 2021. That mean 1-9 should not be on the list. Igloo "B" is an "A" team and the only true 2021 team on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. 91 Heat
4. Green Turtle
5. Bethesda
6. Express
7. Hawks
8. Icon
9. Cannons
10. Igloo B

wait igloo B is A team? I know who igloo is but I'm a little confused is their B team better than their A team that you'd put them on the list? that's interesting. honest question

Saints are a pick up team. though very good together as a team.....it's tough to put them on a top ten list when the majority of their kids play for other clubs and only play for the Saints when they're available.

Has igloo B beat anyone yet? They have lost to everyone they played except a weak NJ team in a rain storm. Heard they lost to igloo 2022 about a month ago. That does not mean igloo B won't be on the list at the end of the Summer but it is too early to tell. The list is also missing TLI, Legacy and many others if you go out of Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well thanks for your two cents

I was gonna say The Saints were on the top of the list.but I see outlaws Black didn't make this list either.
you may want to add in school programs as well in this top 10. SWR

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. 91 Heat
4. Green Turtle
5. Bethesda
6. Express
7. Hawks
8. Icon
9. Cannons
10. Igloo B

[/quote]

Igloo B has not lost a game against the 2022 team. They are a new team and will hopefully jell more as a team as they play more games together. They have some good players on the team, see what happens as the summer progresses

I think Crabs have played themselves into the top 10 in NPYLL.

Do Cannons even field a 2021 team?

No connection with these teams, and obviously don't think these things should be taken too seriously, but I do think it's helpful to understand who are the true AA teams, so other teams can measure where they stand.

Cannon Select, MD and Crabs should be on there

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. Heat
4. Crabs
5. Green Turtle
6. Bethesda
7. Express
8. Hawks
9. Icon
10. Cannon Select

I would say that team Smithtown, Manhasset and SWR would and should be on this list as although people who pay for travel don't want to hear this but those teams would beat up on the majority of this list.

There is no way that 91 Heat is number 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. Heat
4. Crabs
5. Green Turtle
6. Bethesda
7. Express
8. Hawks
9. Icon
10. Cannon Select

Says the Daddy of 91 Heat

More like 5 or 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. Heat
4. Crabs
5. Green Turtle
6. Bethesda
7. Express
8. Hawks
9. Icon
10. Cannon Select

1. Igloo "Black Ice"
2. 91 "Heat"
3. Rising Sons
4. Manhasset
5. Crabs
6. SWR
7. Express Team #1
8. Igloo "Avalanche"
9. Green Turtle
10 . Bethesda

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. Heat
4. Crabs
5. Green Turtle
6. Bethesda
7. Express
8. Hawks
9. Icon
10. Cannon Select

1. Igloo "Black Ice"
2. 91 "Heat"
3. Rising Sons
4. Manhasset
5. Crabs
6. SWR
7. Express Team #1
8. Igloo "Avalanche"
9. Green Turtle
10 . Bethesda

says the Manhasset/Igloo daddy.

what ever happened to Express team 2 from last year? That team was out of the list, the most up and coming one out of them all And would expect them to have made this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. Heat
4. Crabs
5. Green Turtle
6. Bethesda
7. Express
8. Hawks
9. Icon
10. Cannon Select

1. Igloo "Black Ice"
2. 91 "Heat"
3. Rising Sons
4. Manhasset
5. Crabs
6. SWR
7. Express Team #1
8. Igloo "Avalanche"
9. Green Turtle
10 . Bethesda

Well Dad because you might say they are up and coming! Lol u people are insane. Some random guy came on here to give props to them. So obvious your a parent.

i guess this is an american only list. Dont forget about a couple of teams from Canada. Edge is coming to Crabfest.

here's another accusation from an internet tough guy assuming that someone speaking positively about a team is a parent from the team. i swear man some of you lacrosse parents are incredible. no one's kid is better than yours. omg someone is talking about someone other than my son!? only in this sport do I see this. the jealousy and entitlement of lax parents is.disgusting. again some not all...but most. and yes, I'm a coach.

heat is definitely three with Brian Spallina as the coach. good middies

Let's be honest..here is the true list ad it stands;
1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. Express
4. 91 heat
5. Green Turtle
6. Bethesda
7. Hawks
8. Cannons
9. Icon
10. Edge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i guess this is an american only list. Dont forget about a couple of teams from Canada. Edge is coming to Crabfest.

Yup...the players are driving themselves.....

Please Tell me who igloo B beat to be in the top ten. They have one win in the fall to a very weak NJ team. The rest are loses. They scrimmage the 2022 igloo team not the A igloo team so that tells you what the director thinks of them. Anyone who puts Igloo B on this elite list has to be from Igloo. They may make the list by the end of the summer but not yet. Need more than one win to be on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

here's another accusation from an internet tough guy assuming that someone speaking positively about a team is a parent from the team. i swear man some of you lacrosse parents are incredible. no one's kid is better than yours. omg someone is talking about someone other than my son!? only in this sport do I see this. the jealousy and entitlement of lax parents is.disgusting. again some not all...but most. and yes, I'm a coach.

um ok I'm talking about lacrosse parents not igloo B

Anytime a list of best teams comes out parents go nuts. I don't like top ten list because most of these teams are so close that they will play each other to close games. Parents change teams because they got beat by one goal then try out for the winning team. Top ten list should include considering coaching, price, amount of practice/games or playing time and recruitment history. But parents don't care about that stuff. They care about wining and bragging what team jounior plays for. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

um ok I'm talking about lacrosse parents not igloo B

I was curious about a top ten list. I asked originally. I'm not a parent I'm a coach and you're absolutely right....majority of those teams will play each otherto very cclose games. another great point you make is the wining parents do and let's face it the majority of them believe that when their kid gets the ball he's supposed to score or take fifty shots a game. here's a good one.....I received an email recently of a father (you'd think it was from the mother) asking me why the other players don't pass to his son often or why I haven't "designed a play" that has him isolated cutting to the cage. I love this game very much and enjoy coaching kids over the last 15 years but I gotta say I'm hanging by the tips of my fingernails to it these days. tired of the complaints and the emails and the wining after a one loss season. it's getting old folks. as talented as some of these boys are on the teams I've coached through the years very few of them play division one lacrosse let alone play lacrosse in college at all. you know who you are out there with the emails and crying pass it to my son. I actually got one from a parent who donated some money to the program and they were mad that their son wasn't the starting goalie. I could go on and on. again these kind of parents know who they are. not only do make the duty of coaching a team uncomfortable but I got a little secret for you.....there's other parents on the sideline who are tired of hearing your mouths as well. listen it goes quick folks. enjoy the ride. youth sports and all. before you know it it's over. and the sticks and cleats and other things are just memories stored away in the attic. your kids will be off and married and on to a life of their own. enjoy these years of youth sports. be positive in the stands. don't be that parent no one wants to sit with or everyone knows is writing emails. people don't want to be around you. like I said.....it goes by fast

Excellent advice! Thank you.

Your just as bad coming on here all self righteous and bad mouth parents. You talking about emails you received all the while hiding behind your anonymous post. Why don't you man up coach, give us the high school you coach for. Don't think that will happen!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was curious about a top ten list. I asked originally. I'm not a parent I'm a coach and you're absolutely right....majority of those teams will play each otherto very cclose games. another great point you make is the wining parents do and let's face it the majority of them believe that when their kid gets the ball he's supposed to score or take fifty shots a game. here's a good one.....I received an email recently of a father (you'd think it was from the mother) asking me why the other players don't pass to his son often or why I haven't "designed a play" that has him isolated cutting to the cage. I love this game very much and enjoy coaching kids over the last 15 years but I gotta say I'm hanging by the tips of my fingernails to it these days. tired of the complaints and the emails and the wining after a one loss season. it's getting old folks. as talented as some of these boys are on the teams I've coached through the years very few of them play division one lacrosse let alone play lacrosse in college at all. you know who you are out there with the emails and crying pass it to my son. I actually got one from a parent who donated some money to the program and they were mad that their son wasn't the starting goalie. I could go on and on. again these kind of parents know who they are. not only do make the duty of coaching a team uncomfortable but I got a little secret for you.....there's other parents on the sideline who are tired of hearing your mouths as well. listen it goes quick folks. enjoy the ride. youth sports and all. before you know it it's over. and the sticks and cleats and other things are just memories stored away in the attic. your kids will be off and married and on to a life of their own. enjoy these years of youth sports. be positive in the stands. don't be that parent no one wants to sit with or everyone knows is writing emails. people don't want to be around you. like I said.....it goes by fast

I coach club and PAL chief. obviously I was talking about you. leave the coaches alone angry pass it to my son dad.

you're welcome. trust me my kids are both grown and married. enjoy youth sports it's the most fun you'll have till they give you grandkids

wow I'm a sachem parent and I'm appalled to learn that sachem norths rising 7th and 8th grade smear teams are charging close to a thousand dollars a player to play on their summer teams. those coaches are crooks. listen, folks times are tough at home right now and my son is an above average lacrosse player. he wants to stay sharp this summer and I can't really afford a thousand dollars for program run by the school district. does anyone know of any summer club teams....that obviously aren't charging much. maybe a good pick up team that will play in a few tournaments. that's all we're looking for. a thousand dollars for a team ran by school coaches is absurd. Coach Lange go get a summer job. stop robbing people. this is new [lacrosse]. people can't afford to live as it is. if anyone knows of a summer team that's more affordable and will still play competitive lacrosse I'd like to know

MD Wolfpack Team 2021

Head Coach: Jim Rood

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow I'm a sachem parent and I'm appalled to learn that sachem norths rising 7th and 8th grade smear teams are charging close to a thousand dollars a player to play on their summer teams. those coaches are crooks. listen, folks times are tough at home right now and my son is an above average lacrosse player. he wants to stay sharp this summer and I can't really afford a thousand dollars for program run by the school district. does anyone know of any summer club teams....that obviously aren't charging much. maybe a good pick up team that will play in a few tournaments. that's all we're looking for. a thousand dollars for a team ran by school coaches is absurd. Coach Lange go get a summer job. stop robbing people. this is new [lacrosse]. people can't afford to live as it is. if anyone knows of a summer team that's more affordable and will still play competitive lacrosse I'd like to know

It would be a drive for you but Viper 2021 is $800 and head coach is a non dad College head coach. try contacting them

where are they located

thanks I heard of Maryland's wolfpack team. lol a bit of a drive. although, my brother and sister in law are in Carroll County in Manchester. how far away is that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where are they located

Bethpage, Nassau County

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow I'm a sachem parent and I'm appalled to learn that sachem norths rising 7th and 8th grade smear teams are charging close to a thousand dollars a player to play on their summer teams. those coaches are crooks. listen, folks times are tough at home right now and my son is an above average lacrosse player. he wants to stay sharp this summer and I can't really afford a thousand dollars for program run by the school district. does anyone know of any summer club teams....that obviously aren't charging much. maybe a good pick up team that will play in a few tournaments. that's all we're looking for. a thousand dollars for a team ran by school coaches is absurd. Coach Lange go get a summer job. stop robbing people. this is new [lacrosse]. people can't afford to live as it is. if anyone knows of a summer team that's more affordable and will still play competitive lacrosse I'd like to know

The Saints. One of the SSC guys is a coach.

Really!? I wonder who that is. maybe my kid knows who he is. where do they practice? reasonable price? He just wants to play

Which express team is playing this weekend at JDRF in the 2021 bracket? The one from Pro Player or the B team or a combo.

The Wolves who are the A team will not be there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which express team is playing this weekend at JDRF in the 2021 bracket? The one from Pro Player or the B team or a combo.

Saints are a Top 2021 team. Top 5 to 7 on Long Island. Parents are nice too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really!? I wonder who that is. maybe my kid knows who he is. where do they practice? reasonable price? He just wants to play

where does that Saints team practice? And if there's an SSC coach involved I'd like my son to play for them. if he knows who the coach is maybe he'll feel more comfortable. like I said he just wants to play but money is tight. He just wants to play but I'll be fanned if I dump $950 in a coach's pocket who's already employed by the school. That's ridiculous. my son will be good enough to play school ball when he gets there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i guess this is an american only list. Dont forget about a couple of teams from Canada. Edge is coming to Crabfest.

Edge Lacrosse registers their teams down a year, so be forewarned. They shouldn't really be considered a 2021 team.
Their reasoning is "every player intends to do a PG year before college so we register the teams according to their PG grad year" Its sickening. Again, be forewarned.

no one on here is interested in Canada. where do the Saints practice and who's the SSC guy coaching with them. I'd like to get a hold of him so I can get my son signed up please.

Let's drag the saints topic a little more shall we? They are nothing but smoking mirrors of what people have seen in the last month , team is compiled of part time players for the most part , the better of the roster at least is. If you look around during the summer you will find those kids playing for 91 TLI, or express So realistically what's left on the team? By no means knocking this but going over to play for this team with the assumption of what you see is what you get is far from the true commitment of players.

quote=Anonymous]no one on here is interested in Canada. where do the Saints practice and who's the SSC guy coaching with them. I'd like to get a hold of him so I can get my son signed up please. [/quote]

someone mentioned them on here as a team that I may be interested in having my son play for being that money was tight and I didn't want to pay the $950 for the sachem north summer team because I couldn't afford it right now and my son just wants to play. someone mentioned they don't charge much and a sachem sports club guy coaches them. no one was dragging the topic or whatever. I was just looking for a competitive team for my son to play on that wasn't going to burn a hole in my poclet. pay attention before you start wasting your time typing something that no one was talking about. sorry we' ll go back to talking about your son's team now go ahead it's your floors. unbelievable. of anyone has any info on where the Saints or any other affordable summer team plays I'd like to know. thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

someone mentioned them on here as a team that I may be interested in having my son play for being that money was tight and I didn't want to pay the $950 for the sachem north summer team because I couldn't afford it right now and my son just wants to play. someone mentioned they don't charge much and a sachem sports club guy coaches them. no one was dragging the topic or whatever. I was just looking for a competitive team for my son to play on that wasn't going to burn a hole in my poclet. pay attention before you start wasting your time typing something that no one was talking about. sorry we' ll go back to talking about your son's team now go ahead it's your floors. unbelievable. of anyone has any info on where the Saints or any other affordable summer team plays I'd like to know. thank you

Viper was suggested to you. Did you follow up? Their contact info is in their website on the right side of this page.

yes I did I'm weighing that out too. my kid heard about that.program and likes them as well. I appreciate your help.

Edge teams are not reclassed until high school which makes sense. THe 2021 are all 03's and a late 02. Sorry to disappoint.

Wrong, in 8th grade 2019 they reclass or should we call it rearrange their team. Its on your website dopes. 2019 looking for 9th grade and really really really good 8th graders. They should all be 8th graders.

I just looked at the web site too because it is hard to believe teams would disregard age limitations in the open like that. Seems they look for kids that are at least a year older and even more for every grade. 2020 looking for kids born in 2001/2002. They don't limit the months in 2001. According to the website 2021 will play down u11. They should play u13. 2020 team will play u13. Yes they are older.

uote=Anonymous] Wrong, in 8th grade 2019 they reclass or should we call it rearrange their team. Its on your website dopes. 2019 looking for 9th grade and really really really good 8th graders. They should all be 8th graders. [/quote]

Saints is hand picked friends of friends only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

someone mentioned them on here as a team that I may be interested in having my son play for being that money was tight and I didn't want to pay the $950 for the sachem north summer team because I couldn't afford it right now and my son just wants to play. someone mentioned they don't charge much and a sachem sports club guy coaches them. no one was dragging the topic or whatever. I was just looking for a competitive team for my son to play on that wasn't going to burn a hole in my poclet. pay attention before you start wasting your time typing something that no one was talking about. sorry we' ll go back to talking about your son's team now go ahead it's your floors. unbelievable. of anyone has any info on where the Saints or any other affordable summer team plays I'd like to know. thank you

really? but someone mentioned a sachem sports club coach is coaching over there. we may know him

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saints is hand picked friends of friends only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

someone mentioned them on here as a team that I may be interested in having my son play for being that money was tight and I didn't want to pay the $950 for the sachem north summer team because I couldn't afford it right now and my son just wants to play. someone mentioned they don't charge much and a sachem sports club guy coaches them. no one was dragging the topic or whatever. I was just looking for a competitive team for my son to play on that wasn't going to burn a hole in my poclet. pay attention before you start wasting your time typing something that no one was talking about. sorry we' ll go back to talking about your son's team now go ahead it's your floors. unbelievable. of anyone has any info on where the Saints or any other affordable summer team plays I'd like to know. thank you

That was going to be my comment - if you knew the coach he would have reached out to you already. Most of these pick up teams are a group of friends that enjoy playing together

yeah that's true

why not try using your registered name and maybe, just maybe... they can send you a private message. never know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's drag the saints topic a little more shall we? They are nothing but smoking mirrors of what people have seen in the last month , team is compiled of part time players for the most part , the better of the roster at least is. If you look around during the summer you will find those kids playing for 91 TLI, or express So realistically what's left on the team? By no means knocking this but going over to play for this team with the assumption of what you see is what you get is far from the true commitment of players.

I am trying to figure out what a smoking mirror is? lol maybe the families who play with them enjoy and consider this their first team. Was there really that many travel helmets?

quote=Anonymous]no one on here is interested in Canada. where do the Saints practice and who's the SSC guy coaching with them. I'd like to get a hold of him so I can get my son signed up please.

[/quote]

no not many travel helmets. more PAL town helmets than travel

I'm new to the site. don't know [lacrosse] to register but you're probably right

Saints kids are a good group and have been playing together for a few years

can somebody from the saints let us in on whats going on w you guys? so this topic can be put to rest or talked about ad nauseam. One person says your " smoking mirrors " (that's too funny) this guy says you've been "playing together for years". There was allegations about all the "travel kids", or "not that many travel helmets". theres this ssc coach but yet its out east its "invite only" how does one get an invite? is there more then one team? age groups?

just one team out east. what's the problem we're not talking enough about your team?

what is wrong with having a couple travel players it's a pick up team

Nice showing by Team Igloo "Black Ice" down at Summer Exposure. Cyclones team out of Charlotte appears, from the score, to have given them a good game before Igloo won 7-6. They dispatched Kooper's 7-3, who lost 4-8 to GT at OC in the 2021AA championship. Igloo then beat a good (NC) Cannons U13 team 5-4 in championship.

Not an Igloo parent here, but lots of good games to see how some non-hotbeds matched up and how well 2021 teams were able to compete against older U13 teams.

You are kidding right? $950 for the summer and you are crying like a baby. That is nothing. Try elsewhere where you pay $2-3,000. Must be the same guy who was bashing the same team earlier in the year...think your name was Charlie?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice showing by Team Igloo "Black Ice" down at Summer Exposure. Cyclones team out of Charlotte appears, from the score, to have given them a good game before Igloo won 7-6. They dispatched Kooper's 7-3, who lost 4-8 to GT at OC in the 2021AA championship. Igloo then beat a good (NC) Cannons U13 team 5-4 in championship.

Not an Igloo parent here, but lots of good games to see how some non-hotbeds matched up and how well 2021 teams were able to compete against older U13 teams.

"Not an Igloo parent here " but I know all of their scores... Just come and here and say youre an Igloo parent. Nothing wrong with promoting a nice showing from you team at a tournament.

Agree Igloo Black Ice showed well this past weekend. We were there and watched that Igloo Black Ice vs. Cyclones game on Saturday after our game. Highly competitive and exciting game. The Cyclones (White - I think) pushed Igloo the entire game. But, Igloo pulled out a win in the final couple minutes. That Charlotte team looked very good. Clearly one of the best teams from the Southern region. Its good to see that the non-hotbeds are starting to close the gap. Will be interesting to see how they compete with our teams in future tournaments. Igloo went on to play the Carolina Cannons in the final. That Cannons team had to have some older kids on their roster. No way that 2 or three of them were age appropriate. Igloo Black Ice pulled out the win. Not an Igloo parent, but, I agree that they looked very strong. Igloo Avalanche is coming up the curve nicely. Their only loss was to that Cyclones team.

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters a week ago and the Jesters lost this past weekend by big scores including 10-2 and 15-3 losses. Avalanche Is not an elite team like we were told they would be. They are not even an A team. A few wins against other B teams is nothing to brag about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree Igloo Black Ice showed well this past weekend. We were there and watched that Igloo Black Ice vs. Cyclones game on Saturday after our game. Highly competitive and exciting game. The Cyclones (White - I think) pushed Igloo the entire game. But, Igloo pulled out a win in the final couple minutes. That Charlotte team looked very good. Clearly one of the best teams from the Southern region. Its good to see that the non-hotbeds are starting to close the gap. Will be interesting to see how they compete with our teams in future tournaments. Igloo went on to play the Carolina Cannons in the final. That Cannons team had to have some older kids on their roster. No way that 2 or three of them were age appropriate. Igloo Black Ice pulled out the win. Not an Igloo parent, but, I agree that they looked very strong. Igloo Avalanche is coming up the curve nicely. Their only loss was to that Cyclones team.

No one is bragging, just stating observations. I read that post as the Avalanche are continuing to improve. Let's always try to say positive things about others, if you don't it is a reflection on yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree Igloo Black Ice showed well this past weekend. We were there and watched that Igloo Black Ice vs. Cyclones game on Saturday after our game. Highly competitive and exciting game. The Cyclones (White - I think) pushed Igloo the entire game. But, Igloo pulled out a win in the final couple minutes. That Charlotte team looked very good. Clearly one of the best teams from the Southern region. Its good to see that the non-hotbeds are starting to close the gap. Will be interesting to see how they compete with our teams in future tournaments. Igloo went on to play the Carolina Cannons in the final. That Cannons team had to have some older kids on their roster. No way that 2 or three of them were age appropriate. Igloo Black Ice pulled out the win. Not an Igloo parent, but, I agree that they looked very strong. Igloo Avalanche is coming up the curve nicely. Their only loss was to that Cyclones team.

Cyclones White plays in the B bracket when it plays in tournaments in Charlotte.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree Igloo Black Ice showed well this past weekend. We were there and watched that Igloo Black Ice vs. Cyclones game on Saturday after our game. Highly competitive and exciting game. The Cyclones (White - I think) pushed Igloo the entire game. But, Igloo pulled out a win in the final couple minutes. That Charlotte team looked very good. Clearly one of the best teams from the Southern region. Its good to see that the non-hotbeds are starting to close the gap. Will be interesting to see how they compete with our teams in future tournaments. Igloo went on to play the Carolina Cannons in the final. That Cannons team had to have some older kids on their roster. No way that 2 or three of them were age appropriate. Igloo Black Ice pulled out the win. Not an Igloo parent, but, I agree that they looked very strong. Igloo Avalanche is coming up the curve nicely. Their only loss was to that Cyclones team.

How would the best of the u13a teams at Hogan's fared in the 2020aa or 2020a brackets?

Cyclones White is playing 13A this weekend. The Aloha Director has the teams turned around in error. Either way they are a good 2021 team and as stated in the last Charlotte Tournament rules, 6th grade teams 2021 played in 13 B and 7th grade 2020 teams were supposed to be in 13 A. (Cyclones have 17 six graders and 1 5th grader on their roster). At Maryland not only did the Carolina Cannons have a 7th grade team playing in a 6th grade bracket, but also a couple of 8th graders on the team. Kudos to the Igloo for beating an older team!

Of course in Charlotte 13b is 2021 and 13a is 2020. I understand they are a grade based team. Mirroring the successful programs in LI and MD.

White U13 actually plays in the A bracket in Charlotte tournaments, check next week's Summer Sizzler where we are playing in the A bracket. The younger team plays in the U13 B bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree Igloo Black Ice showed well this past weekend. We were there and watched that Igloo Black Ice vs. Cyclones game on Saturday after our game. Highly competitive and exciting game. The Cyclones (White - I think) pushed Igloo the entire game. But, Igloo pulled out a win in the final couple minutes. That Charlotte team looked very good. Clearly one of the best teams from the Southern region. Its good to see that the non-hotbeds are starting to close the gap. Will be interesting to see how they compete with our teams in future tournaments. Igloo went on to play the Carolina Cannons in the final. That Cannons team had to have some older kids on their roster. No way that 2 or three of them were age appropriate. Igloo Black Ice pulled out the win. Not an Igloo parent, but, I agree that they looked very strong. Igloo Avalanche is coming up the curve nicely. Their only loss was to that Cyclones team.

Cyclones White plays in the B bracket when it plays in tournaments in Charlotte.

That's because Cyclones White is a 2021 team, not a U13 team. It played in the U13B/2021 bracket. Program is the same as who runs those tournaments.

That said, playing down is rampant in the Southeast. It's a real PITA if you are a quality younger team to have your B bracket populated with older teams trophy hunting. And quite apart from teams that should be in the A bracket based on ability playing in the B bracket, some teams blatantly play down by registering primarily 5th grade teams in 4th grade division, 6th in U11/5th and 7th's in 6th's, etc. I saw a game at a "top" tournament where 4th graders were being guarded by 7th graders. I can understand why tournament directors feel pressure to allow it so they can balance out their brackets, but it's BS.

The Cannons team playing in the U13A bracket was the 2020 team, primarily 7th grade team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's because Cyclones White is a 2021 team, not a U13 team. It played in the U13B/2021 bracket. Program is the same as who runs those tournaments.

That said, playing down is rampant in the Southeast. It's a real PITA if you are a quality younger team to have your B bracket populated with older teams trophy hunting. And quite apart from teams that should be in the A bracket based on ability playing in the B bracket, some teams blatantly play down by registering primarily 5th grade teams in 4th grade division, 6th in U11/5th and 7th's in 6th's, etc. I saw a game at a "top" tournament where 4th graders were being guarded by 7th graders. I can understand why tournament directors feel pressure to allow it so they can balance out their brackets, but it's BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's because Cyclones White is a 2021 team, not a U13 team. It played in the U13B/2021 bracket. Program is the same as who runs those tournaments.

That said, playing down is rampant in the Southeast. It's a real PITA if you are a quality younger team to have your B bracket populated with older teams trophy hunting. And quite apart from teams that should be in the A bracket based on ability playing in the B bracket, some teams blatantly play down by registering primarily 5th grade teams in 4th grade division, 6th in U11/5th and 7th's in 6th's, etc. I saw a game at a "top" tournament where 4th graders were being guarded by 7th graders. I can understand why tournament directors feel pressure to allow it so they can balance out their brackets, but it's BS.

Call it what it is.....cheating.
The coaches/parents/kids all know and it's condoned and encouraged. Lack of integrity is astounding.

I 100% agree with you. It�s is cheating plain and simple. Playing down is bad enough, but, when you have coaches, players and parents that condone the behavior what does that say about the integrity of your program? NOT much! I�m glad Igloo Black Ice beat them! We don�t always agree on the island, but at least we have pride in the sport and our reputation. If a team wants to play up and get tested, that�s one thing. At least they know what they're signing up for. But, to willingly and knowingly allow 8th graders to play in a U13 bracket wreaks of desperation and is absolutely pathetic. We caught the last half of the Cannons vs. Cyclones game. There was a huge size difference between them. Have to give them credit, they hung in there.

By the way, OP here. I wasn't saying Cannons did anything wrong in the U13A division at Summer Exposure. Nice thing about Hogan is that they actually enforce their own rules. That means it was a U13 team in the highest U13 division. Grade doesn't matter if they are young enough. Technically, as I understand it, they *couldn't" play in the 2020 divisions if they had 2019 kids.

I was talking about multiple other tournaments not enforcing their own rules, when aware teams don't qualify for their divisions. And wth kind of coach plays in a division when they aren't even close to qualifying for it and tells the tournament director they are when they are not? Per above, it's cheating and pathetic and sets bad example.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's because Cyclones White is a 2021 team, not a U13 team. It played in the U13B/2021 bracket. Program is the same as who runs those tournaments.

That said, playing down is rampant in the Southeast. It's a real PITA if you are a quality younger team to have your B bracket populated with older teams trophy hunting. And quite apart from teams that should be in the A bracket based on ability playing in the B bracket, some teams blatantly play down by registering primarily 5th grade teams in 4th grade division, 6th in U11/5th and 7th's in 6th's, etc. I saw a game at a "top" tournament where 4th graders were being guarded by 7th graders. I can understand why tournament directors feel pressure to allow it so they can balance out their brackets, but it's BS.

I question what a team that is talented and well coached enough to finish in the top half of an A bracket gets out of dominating teams 18-0 in the B bracket particularly if you have some 6th graders that are older than other teams' seventh graders. Maybe if the Cyclones had chosen to challenge themselves in the A bracket the week before they could have beaten Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

By the way, OP here. I wasn't saying Cannons did anything wrong in the U13A division at Summer Exposure. Nice thing about Hogan is that they actually enforce their own rules. That means it was a U13 team in the highest U13 division. Grade doesn't matter if they are young enough. Technically, as I understand it, they *couldn't" play in the 2020 divisions if they had 2019 kids.

I was talking about multiple other tournaments not enforcing their own rules, when aware teams don't qualify for their divisions. And wth kind of coach plays in a division when they aren't even close to qualifying for it and tells the tournament director they are when they are not? Per above, it's cheating and pathetic and sets bad example.

I posted about calling it cheating.
In no way am I accusing the Cyclones or cannons of any cheating, they were just in the post I quoted.
As stated above, it goes on at many tourneys at many levels. It is becoming the norm rather than isolated incidents, this is the problem. I guess coaches figure if everyone is cheating, I'll do it too? Not good for the game and has no place in youth sports.

you are dopes. please take your southern hillbilly squabble somewhere else. We don�t care on this thread. clearly you are both from the same region and are trying to come off like your not. We have enough proplems of our own.

PBR 2021 is strong. Beat Cyclones 6-5 at [lacrosse]'s. Didn't do great against Md teams this weekend though. Both lost by one goal to Rising Sons at [lacrosse]'s.

Hogan does a good job of enforcing the rules for their brackets.

The U13a bracket is age cutoff of Sept 1, 2001 Birthday or younger consistent with US Lacrosse rules (both NC teams fit that bill) grade is not relevant.

The 2020aa bracket is boys who will graduate HS in 2020 and can include reclassified players essentially making it a U14 equivalent.

A 2021 team of mostly u12 players is playing up in U13a and should be commended win or lose. If you lose, you should not be bitter about it. If you win, you should win with class and not make up tall tales about your opponents.

Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hogan does a good job of enforcing the rules for their brackets.

The U13a bracket is age cutoff of Sept 1, 2001 Birthday or younger consistent with US Lacrosse rules (both NC teams fit that bill) grade is not relevant.

The 2020aa bracket is boys who will graduate HS in 2020 and can include reclassified players essentially making it a U14 equivalent.

A 2021 team of mostly u12 players is playing up in U13a and should be commended win or lose. If you lose, you should not be bitter about it. If you win, you should win with class and not make up tall tales about your opponents.

The Cyclones had to play A because they were not eligible under the Hogan rules to play B. They were playing in the lowest division that they were eligible for.

They went 4-2 losing good games to the finalists.

Instead of being happy about their play they come on this forum and falsely accuse one of the other clubs of cheating.

That is commendable play on the part of the kids but deplorable behavior on the part of the adults.

Btw. Hillbillies or not the only two teams to give the Long Island team a game in Maryland were from NC. If you don't want to read about it stop losing to hillbillies.

Love it.

Some great match ups this weekend

Should be an interesting Tourney this weekend. Lots of quality teams competing against one another (GT, Hawks, Bethesda, Crabs, etc.)

Igloo Avalache lost to Primetime today. Primetime Is a B team. Igloo Avalanche also lost to the 2021Jesters last week. At this point Igloo should stop claiming Avalanche is an A team.

Can't stop calling the Igloo Aves an A team when TA lied to parents told them to come play for him and then dumped them on to a B team. Honorable is not his middle name.

Hey way to go Ambush 2-0 so far .. Gotta love lax fest , where else can 91 get easy draws against developmental teams in their own tournament to get them to advance. Or is it all in the coaching ? Hear he has a great serve ?

6th grade Jesters had a tough day today playing B division at Laxfest. They may not have any other choice but to call them Igloo B.

quote=Anonymous]Can't stop calling the Igloo Aves an A team when TA lied to parents told them to come play for him and then dumped them on to a B team. Honorable is not his middle name. [/quote]

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

The difference is the parent were sold one thing and given another. Now I maintain that parents are responsible for knowing what they are signing their child up for, but it can be tough sometimes.

I would agree with you if the parents were paying $150 for rec lacrosse, but when you are paying $1500+ you should have certain expectations. Unfortunately, club lacrosse is ruining the experience for the B player.

Players make the team a or b not the program. For the parents who are upset the team isn't A caliber, look at junior. Make an A team, be on an A team. Don't think your son will be on a new team and it will an A team just because they say it will be an A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Players make the team a or b not the program. For the parents who are upset the team isn't A caliber, look at junior. Make an A team, be on an A team. Don't think your son will be on a new team and it will an A team just because they say it will be an A team.

I think the only people that care A or B is the parents. I also think that junior says he cares only because the parents made a big deal about it. I would rather have my kid play on a B team than sit on the bench of an A team. Please don't tell me he gets better training riding the pine and still practicing with the A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

The difference is the parent were sold one thing and given another. Now I maintain that parents are responsible for knowing what they are signing their child up for, but it can be tough sometimes.

I would agree with you if the parents were paying $150 for rec lacrosse, but when you are paying $1500+ you should have certain expectations. Unfortunately, club lacrosse is ruining the experience for the B player.

There is no such thing as A or B. Those are single distinction made by clubs to break down thier own inner teams. Outside it means nothing. For Example if you where to put Recon, Jesters, Outlaws and Legacys A teams into the Igloo organization they would be deemed B teams. In truth Outlaws and Legacy are both in the top 7 lax teams on LI . In Turn, both Jetsers and Recon would be B teams in the Outlaws or Legacy organization. The most important thing is finding a team where the level of play matches your son. If he cant keep up he will learn nothing . Let me tell you something about some B teams. I know of B teams whos coaches have better resumes and practice even more then their organizations A teams. Those parents keep THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Why tell everybody how great your team is , so next tryout theres an extra 100 kids trying to make the team ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

The difference is the parent were sold one thing and given another. Now I maintain that parents are responsible for knowing what they are signing their child up for, but it can be tough sometimes.

I would agree with you if the parents were paying $150 for rec lacrosse, but when you are paying $1500+ you should have certain expectations. Unfortunately, club lacrosse is ruining the experience for the B player.

There is no such thing as A or B. Those are single distinction made by clubs to break down thier own inner teams. Outside it means nothing. For Example if you where to put Recon, Jesters, Outlaws and Legacys A teams into the Igloo organization they would be deemed B teams. In truth Outlaws and Legacy are both in the top 7 lax teams on LI . In Turn, both Jetsers and Recon would be B teams in the Outlaws or Legacy organization. The most important thing is finding a team where the level of play matches your son. If he cant keep up he will learn nothing . Let me tell you something about some B teams. I know of B teams whos coaches have better resumes and practice even more then their organizations A teams. Those parents keep THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Why tell everybody how great your team is , so next tryout theres an extra 100 kids trying to make the team ?

Jesters beat outlaws black two out of last three times played. Played a bunch of one goal games. (Got beat up last one though? They would be their B team? How's that work ?

Stop making things up. Jesters have never beat the Outlaws Black team this year. They played 4 times since January and the Outlaws beat the jesters each time including a 27 to 5 indoor game at the Hub and a 15-3 win two weeks ago. Outlaws Silver beat the Jesters last week 8-6 at Laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

The difference is the parent were sold one thing and given another. Now I maintain that parents are responsible for knowing what they are signing their child up for, but it can be tough sometimes.

I would agree with you if the parents were paying $150 for rec lacrosse, but when you are paying $1500+ you should have certain expectations. Unfortunately, club lacrosse is ruining the experience for the B player.

There is no such thing as A or B. Those are single distinction made by clubs to break down thier own inner teams. Outside it means nothing. For Example if you where to put Recon, Jesters, Outlaws and Legacys A teams into the Igloo organization they would be deemed B teams. In truth Outlaws and Legacy are both in the top 7 lax teams on LI . In Turn, both Jetsers and Recon would be B teams in the Outlaws or Legacy organization. The most important thing is finding a team where the level of play matches your son. If he cant keep up he will learn nothing . Let me tell you something about some B teams. I know of B teams whos coaches have better resumes and practice even more then their organizations A teams. Those parents keep THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Why tell everybody how great your team is , so next tryout theres an extra 100 kids trying to make the team ?

Jesters beat outlaws black two out of last three times played. Played a bunch of one goal games. (Got beat up last one though? They would be their B team? How's that work ?

I will assume this post claiming the Jesters beat the Outlaws was not from a Jester parent since it is incorrect. The Jesters have played both Outlaws Black and Silver and have lost all the games played and yes a couple of loses by a lot. However this is a very talented Jesters team that is gritty and will play anyone close. Although they have not had much luck with the Outlaws they have beat both Team Long Island "A" and Igloo Avalanche. I feel sorry for any team that plays the Jesters and does not take them seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop making things up. Jesters have never beat the Outlaws Black team this year. They played 4 times since January and the Outlaws beat the jesters each time including a 27 to 5 indoor game at the Hub and a 15-3 win two weeks ago. Outlaws Silver beat the Jesters last week 8-6 at Laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

The difference is the parent were sold one thing and given another. Now I maintain that parents are responsible for knowing what they are signing their child up for, but it can be tough sometimes.

I would agree with you if the parents were paying $150 for rec lacrosse, but when you are paying $1500+ you should have certain expectations. Unfortunately, club lacrosse is ruining the experience for the B player.

There is no such thing as A or B. Those are single distinction made by clubs to break down thier own inner teams. Outside it means nothing. For Example if you where to put Recon, Jesters, Outlaws and Legacys A teams into the Igloo organization they would be deemed B teams. In truth Outlaws and Legacy are both in the top 7 lax teams on LI . In Turn, both Jetsers and Recon would be B teams in the Outlaws or Legacy organization. The most important thing is finding a team where the level of play matches your son. If he cant keep up he will learn nothing . Let me tell you something about some B teams. I know of B teams whos coaches have better resumes and practice even more then their organizations A teams. Those parents keep THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Why tell everybody how great your team is , so next tryout theres an extra 100 kids trying to make the team ?

Jesters beat outlaws black two out of last three times played. Played a bunch of one goal games. (Got beat up last one though? They would be their B team? How's that work ?

Does Primetime have two 2021 teams? They played 91 Orange at NLFin Philly and lost 9-6 (not quite a blow out)and are playing 2021. If you don't know what you are talking about stay off this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalache lost to Primetime today. Primetime Is a B team. Igloo Avalanche also lost to the 2021Jesters last week. At this point Igloo should stop claiming Avalanche is an A team.

They must be an awesome B team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Primetime have two 2021 teams? They played 91 Orange at NLFin Philly and lost 9-6 (not quite a blow out)and are playing 2021. If you don't know what you are talking about stay off this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalache lost to Primetime today. Primetime Is a B team. Igloo Avalanche also lost to the 2021Jesters last week. At this point Igloo should stop claiming Avalanche is an A team.

Igloo, Sons, Icon, Bethesda and 91 should get together to compete and have fun one weekend after the summer tourneys wind down. They could call it the "Re-lax Fest". Laxfest was one of those few times when the top 2021 teams actually see and play each other, and I know a lot of the kids were looking forward to some good head-to-head match-ups. Opportunity lost with the Laxfest debacle, so just throwing out an idea..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop making things up. Jesters have never beat the Outlaws Black team this year. They played 4 times since January and the Outlaws beat the jesters each time including a 27 to 5 indoor game at the Hub and a 15-3 win two weeks ago. Outlaws Silver beat the Jesters last week 8-6 at Laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

The difference is the parent were sold one thing and given another. Now I maintain that parents are responsible for knowing what they are signing their child up for, but it can be tough sometimes.

I would agree with you if the parents were paying $150 for rec lacrosse, but when you are paying $1500+ you should have certain expectations. Unfortunately, club lacrosse is ruining the experience for the B player.

There is no such thing as A or B. Those are single distinction made by clubs to break down thier own inner teams. Outside it means nothing. For Example if you where to put Recon, Jesters, Outlaws and Legacys A teams into the Igloo organization they would be deemed B teams. In truth Outlaws and Legacy are both in the top 7 lax teams on LI . In Turn, both Jetsers and Recon would be B teams in the Outlaws or Legacy organization. The most important thing is finding a team where the level of play matches your son. If he cant keep up he will learn nothing . Let me tell you something about some B teams. I know of B teams whos coaches have better resumes and practice even more then their organizations A teams. Those parents keep THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Why tell everybody how great your team is , so next tryout theres an extra 100 kids trying to make the team ?

Jesters beat outlaws black two out of last three times played. Played a bunch of one goal games. (Got beat up last one though? They would be their B team? How's that work ?

Jesters lost 2 1 in foresburg. They played at jdrf too. Who won that game?

They did not play at JDRF. Jesters are a good team. they beat igloo and team Long Island but lost to outlaws black four times and silver once.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop making things up. Jesters have never beat the Outlaws Black team this year. They played 4 times since January and the Outlaws beat the jesters each time including a 27 to 5 indoor game at the Hub and a 15-3 win two weeks ago. Outlaws Silver beat the Jesters last week 8-6 at Laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats the difference A or B as long as the kids are learing something they are in 6th grade come on folks.

The difference is the parent were sold one thing and given another. Now I maintain that parents are responsible for knowing what they are signing their child up for, but it can be tough sometimes.

I would agree with you if the parents were paying $150 for rec lacrosse, but when you are paying $1500+ you should have certain expectations. Unfortunately, club lacrosse is ruining the experience for the B player.

There is no such thing as A or B. Those are single distinction made by clubs to break down thier own inner teams. Outside it means nothing. For Example if you where to put Recon, Jesters, Outlaws and Legacys A teams into the Igloo organization they would be deemed B teams. In truth Outlaws and Legacy are both in the top 7 lax teams on LI . In Turn, both Jetsers and Recon would be B teams in the Outlaws or Legacy organization. The most important thing is finding a team where the level of play matches your son. If he cant keep up he will learn nothing . Let me tell you something about some B teams. I know of B teams whos coaches have better resumes and practice even more then their organizations A teams. Those parents keep THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. Why tell everybody how great your team is , so next tryout theres an extra 100 kids trying to make the team ?

Jesters beat outlaws black two out of last three times played. Played a bunch of one goal games. (Got beat up last one though? They would be their B team? How's that work ?

Jesters lost 2 1 in foresburg. They played at jdrf too. Who won that game?

I'm a Igloo Avalanche Parent and I can say taking a swing at the Igloo Director for putting this team together is completely wrong. This team has a great coach, great families, great players associated with it, and a organization that is extremely supportive of them. Let me put it to you this way; we get treated as a "A" team, no different then any other team at Igloo. We have received everything we were promised this year and more. My son is happy and having a great time and that is all that should matter. This is the first time that my son and my wife feel we are apart of something special. And comments like dumped them on a "B" team is such a gross misrepresentation that I had to say something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo, Sons, Icon, Bethesda and 91 should get together to compete and have fun one weekend after the summer tourneys wind down. They could call it the "Re-lax Fest". Laxfest was one of those few times when the top 2021 teams actually see and play each other, and I know a lot of the kids were looking forward to some good head-to-head match-ups. Opportunity lost with the Laxfest debacle, so just throwing out an idea..

Don't worry, these boys are young, they will play each other multiple times in their futures!

Great Idea!!! Let's make it happen!!!

a great idea for who?

we know who will win. Is beating the same teams or being beaten by the same teams all the time that much fun for you?

Just heard Igloo "Black Ice" is playing West Coast Starz 2021 today 5pm up at there fields next to Jericho HS should be a great game. WCS pushed Igloo to limit in Denver over summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo, Sons, Icon, Bethesda and 91 should get together to compete and have fun one weekend after the summer tourneys wind down. They could call it the "Re-lax Fest". Laxfest was one of those few times when the top 2021 teams actually see and play each other, and I know a lot of the kids were looking forward to some good head-to-head match-ups. Opportunity lost with the Laxfest debacle, so just throwing out an idea..

Don't worry, these boys are young, they will play each other multiple times in their futures!

91? Aren't they the ones who cancelled Laxfest lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just heard Igloo "Black Ice" is playing West Coast Starz 2021 today 5pm up at there fields next to Jericho HS should be a great game. WCS pushed Igloo to limit in Denver over summer.

They are in town for the Express tourney this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm a Igloo Avalanche Parent and I can say taking a swing at the Igloo Director for putting this team together is completely wrong. This team has a great coach, great families, great players associated with it, and a organization that is extremely supportive of them. Let me put it to you this way; we get treated as a "A" team, no different then any other team at Igloo. We have received everything we were promised this year and more. My son is happy and having a great time and that is all that should matter. This is the first time that my son and my wife feel we are apart of something special. And comments like dumped them on a "B" team is such a gross misrepresentation that I had to say something.

I think Igloos B team is catching grief for all those green with envy about Igloos A team. It really is a feet that they managed to field a team better then the 91 and Expresses. Usually by this age the worry over future recruiting gets kid to jump ship to these two. For some reason people also think that Igloos B team should be just as good. Bottom line, if your kid is learning, your competitive in the tourneys you go to and your happy who cares what anyone else thinks

Congrats to Jersey Thunder and LI Legacy 2021 Sweet Laxin Champions! Great weekend of lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Jersey Thunder and LI Legacy 2021 Sweet Laxin Champions! Great weekend of lacrosse!

Jersey thunder?

So now we say congrats to an A team, winning in a B bracket, come on dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Jersey Thunder and LI Legacy 2021 Sweet Laxin Champions! Great weekend of lacrosse!

. Legacy played in B then beat a team 22-2 ? What a low life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Jersey Thunder and LI Legacy 2021 Sweet Laxin Champions! Great weekend of lacrosse!

. Legacy played in B then beat a team 22-2 ? What a low life.

It was the Legacy B team the Titans. But they should have played A.

What happened at the McGrath tourney? Over heard people talking about a fight in 2021 game.

It was a 2019 game .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at the McGrath tourney? Over heard people talking about a fight in 2021 game.

Not 2021 game

doesn't matter what age group the game was its still disgusting. and you'll probably never see the dope who was being a loud mouth and starting a fight come on here because there's a good chance he might be sober now and he's probably embarrassed

What happened? Which teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

doesn't matter what age group the game was its still disgusting. and you'll probably never see the dope who was being a loud mouth and starting a fight come on here because there's a good chance he might be sober now and he's probably embarrassed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened? Which teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

doesn't matter what age group the game was its still disgusting. and you'll probably never see the dope who was being a loud mouth and starting a fight come on here because there's a good chance he might be sober now and he's probably embarrassed

Two 50 year old women rolling around the ground fighting then husbands fighting one guy gets popped in the nose blood everywhere. Then one big guy who was with the McGrath tourney challenged another guy and then ran away. Older guy goes gets a hammer from his car cops come pulled their gun all at a charity lax tournament.

Getsb

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened? Which teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

doesn't matter what age group the game was its still disgusting. and you'll probably never see the dope who was being a loud mouth and starting a fight come on here because there's a good chance he might be sober now and he's probably embarrassed

Two 50 year old women rolling around the ground fighting then husbands fighting one guy gets popped in the nose blood everywhere. Then one big guy who was with the McGrath tourney challenged another guy and then ran away. Older guy goes gets a hammer from his car cops come pulled their gun all at a charity lax tournament.

Get your facts straight. The guy with a hammer was fixing the steaks on the tents. Not running around hitting people with it. The big guy with the tournaments was trying to break up the absolute ridiculous scene that was being made. So before you try and give your version of what happen get your facts sttaight

One mother decided to run her mouth like a truck driver fighting with a father who was trying to walk away. With people around her. With parents of another team just waiting for the next game. This looney bird punches a father in the face who then punches her back her husband hits him etc etc grown women rolling in the grass pulling hair. Most ridicous spectacle I ever seen.. Disrespectful to the tournament and the memories to which it is dedicated to

Wow! two years in a row. I'll make sure I'm at this tournament next year. Sounds like good fun!

Anyone else see the 91 Mom go to fists on the sideline??? what are we in the Bronx?!
Wow, 10 years on the sidelines, and that is the first I've see of a chick fight...In front of the kids too. [/quote]

Which teams ?

Last summer a 91 orange 2021 mom went to hit a grandma sitting in a chair cheering on her grandson.
She had to be pulled off by two dads.
wonder if it's the same parent !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! two years in a row. I'll make sure I'm at this tournament next year. Sounds like good fun!

Anyone else see the 91 Mom go to fists on the sideline??? what are we in the Bronx?!
Wow, 10 years on the sidelines, and that is the first I've see of a chick fight...In front of the kids too.

[/quote]

Please don't insult the Bronx like that..........

The only constant in all of these stories about fighting and parents going nuts is the name "91". Where are the directors of the program. Unfortunately they will be back next year because it is all about the money

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only constant in all of these stories about fighting and parents going nuts is the name "91". Where are the directors of the program. Unfortunately they will be back next year because it is all about the money

Neither team was 91

I know all those teams will be in Maryland this weekend. I guess wishes do come true.

I am expecting a lot of excuses after the weekend. Win or lose for any team as long as this "who is best?" argument will finally end. My prediction Igloo / Sons final. Anyone's game after that. Good luck to all.

West Coast Starz came in 8th place at the Expess tournament last week out of 9 teams in the AA division. The only team that was behind them was not from New [lacrosse].

quote=Anonymous]Just heard Igloo "Black Ice" is playing West Coast Starz 2021 today 5pm up at there fields next to Jericho HS should be a great game. WCS pushed Igloo to limit in Denver over summer. [/quote]

All teams were in MD this weekend and every game was played with class and respect on and off of the field.(from what I saw)

Your prediction of Igloo/Sons final was spot on. Igloo had their number again.

Crabs, 91, Icon and Mad Dog West(CA) all played very well in this event.

What happened to 91 ???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All teams were in MD this weekend and every game was played with class and respect on and off of the field.(from what I saw)

Your prediction of Igloo/Sons final was spot on. Igloo had their number again.

Crabs, 91, Icon and Mad Dog West(CA) all played very well in this event.

As a Igloo parent very happy with our team effort, can't say I saw 91 so can't comment on them but will comment on how impressed I was with Icon, did not know much about them but they were very well coached and when I heard and saw whom their staff was I can understand why. Saw them play against Sons and to be very honest they were robbed by some really poor calls against them. They were the better team against Sons in my opinion. Thought that 91 would be our toughest comp from the island but after playing and seeing the Icon team they are a solid team. They had a few solid mids, a few solid attackman, good team def and solid goalie play. Maybe we can get away from the bashing and give kudos to some good play. Very happy we won but congrats to them as well. That West Coast team was solid as well.

Igloo parent? Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a Igloo parent very happy with our team effort, can't say I saw 91 so can't comment on them but will comment on how impressed I was with Icon, did not know much about them but they were very well coached and when I heard and saw whom their staff was I can understand why. Saw them play against Sons and to be very honest they were robbed by some really poor calls against them. They were the better team against Sons in my opinion. Thought that 91 would be our toughest comp from the island but after playing and seeing the Icon team they are a solid team. They had a few solid mids, a few solid attackman, good team def and solid goalie play. Maybe we can get away from the bashing and give kudos to some good play. Very happy we won but congrats to them as well. That West Coast team was solid as well.

Obviously Icon parent.....

Who cares if team Long Island has older kids. Both igloo teams have kids born in 2002 that should be 2020 and are held back. If igloo has kids born October 2002 but are 2021 graduate and team Long Island has a kid born November 2002 but is going to be a 2020 graduate is TLI chesting and igloo not? Black ice has 2020 kids too. Give it a rest. You lost. Move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares if team Long Island has older kids. Both igloo teams have kids born in 2002 that should be 2020 and are held back. If igloo has kids born October 2002 but are 2021 graduate and team Long Island has a kid born November 2002 but is going to be a 2020 graduate is TLI chesting and igloo not? Black ice has 2020 kids too. Give it a rest. You lost. Move on.

that is not the case with Team Long Island. They have Nov 01 to Aug 02's.
At least a year older !

Black Ice has 2020 kids Avalanche also has older kids born before December 2002. You can't pick and choose which teams to police. Until someone steps in and does something about this age issue the rules are that there are no rules and no one is cheating.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares if team Long Island has older kids. Both igloo teams have kids born in 2002 that should be 2020 and are held back. If igloo has kids born October 2002 but are 2021 graduate and team Long Island has a kid born November 2002 but is going to be a 2020 graduate is TLI chesting and igloo not? Black ice has 2020 kids too. Give it a rest. You lost. Move on.

that is not the case with Team Long Island. They have Nov 01 to Aug 02's.
At least a year older ! [/quote]

I hear Icon Lacrosse is a very good team (1 goal loss to Black Ice). What tournaments have they played this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Black Ice has 2020 kids Avalanche also has older kids born before December 2002. You can't pick and choose which teams to police. Until someone steps in and does something about this age issue the rules are that there are no rules and no one is cheating.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares if team Long Island has older kids. Both igloo teams have kids born in 2002 that should be 2020 and are held back. If igloo has kids born October 2002 but are 2021 graduate and team Long Island has a kid born November 2002 but is going to be a 2020 graduate is TLI chesting and igloo not? Black ice has 2020 kids too. Give it a rest. You lost. Move on.

that is not the case with Team Long Island. They have Nov 01 to Aug 02's.
At least a year older !

[/quote]

I used to agree with following NY state or LI cut off of 12/1 for each team, but I think now, as long as the kids fit the 9/1 cut off that all the other states follow, it is more appropriate and fair, it also lines up with USL guidelines. I don't agree with going with a 2 yr spread, but at the very least following 9/1 seems to level the playing field a bit. You cannot go after one team, because almost every team has 1-2 players that are Fall birthdays due to a late start in a Kindergarten. It will only get worse as the standards are ramped up. LI teams have always been at a slight disadvantage in comparison to other states that use a 9/1 cut off, but now that many are leaving their kids back for lax purposes, you are at an even bigger disadvantage. Any NY/LI team with Fall birthdays shouldn't even be blinked at unless the club announces they adhere to a strict 12/1 cut off.

yes they did play very well but much credit needs to go to 2nd half goalie who came up HUGE a bunch of door step stops. Great Job good luck rest of season

[quote=Anonymous]yes they did play very well but much credit needs to go to 2nd half goalie who came up HUGE a bunch of door step stops. Great Job good luck rest of season [/quotE

All our goals were scored in the first half. Huge game by the second half goalie and strong defense kept the game close. Game with them and with Mad Dogs far more exciting then the championship. Great day of lax.

A bit off topic but I see the tryout flyers are starting to appear on BOTC. But I dont see an option to comment. I also noticed the team threads have disappeared. I think we should be able to share our experiences with people considering tryouts for these teams.'it can only help to make us all better informed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A bit off topic but I see the tryout flyers are starting to appear on BOTC. But I dont see an option to comment. I also noticed the team threads have disappeared. I think we should be able to share our experiences with people considering tryouts for these teams.'it can only help to make us all better informed.

You can comment if you are a registered user and signed in.
As the title says please limit your posts to tryouts, practice, or scrimmages. All posts not keeping with the forum subject will be deleted.

There will not be individual threads for clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]yes they did play very well but much credit needs to go to 2nd half goalie who came up HUGE a bunch of door step stops. Great Job good luck rest of season [/quotE

All our goals were scored in the first half. Huge game by the second half goalie and strong defense kept the game close. Game with them and with Mad Dogs far more exciting then the championship. Great day of lax.

I've seen a few posts recognizing the great game played between the icon and igloo teams. It is so refreshing to read posts like this. The boys on both teams competed as hard as they could, were respectful of each other and really epitomized what youth sports CAN be.

Igloo was a gracious winner and the icon boys walked off the field with their heads up.

I wish the folks that post inane my-kids-club-is-better-than yours rants could have seen that game and how those boys competed like true athletes.

I know a few 91 orange top players who are starting to Snoop around to get on ICON coming from an Icon parent . I would say that would make a consistent solid team .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]yes they did play very well but much credit needs to go to 2nd half goalie who came up HUGE a bunch of door step stops. Great Job good luck rest of season [/quotE

All our goals were scored in the first half. Huge game by the second half goalie and strong defense kept the game close. Game with them and with Mad Dogs far more exciting then the championship. Great day of lax.

I've seen a few posts recognizing the great game played between the icon and igloo teams. It is so refreshing to read posts like this. The boys on both teams competed as hard as they could, were respectful of each other and really epitomized what youth sports CAN be.

Igloo was a gracious winner and the icon boys walked off the field with their heads up.

I wish the folks that post inane my-kids-club-is-better-than yours rants could have seen that game and how those boys competed like true athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a few 91 orange top players who are starting to Snoop around to get on ICON coming from an Icon parent . I would say that would make a consistent solid team .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]yes they did play very well but much credit needs to go to 2nd half goalie who came up HUGE a bunch of door step stops. Great Job good luck rest of season [/quotE

All our goals were scored in the first half. Huge game by the second half goalie and strong defense kept the game close. Game with them and with Mad Dogs far more exciting then the championship. Great day of lax.

I've seen a few posts recognizing the great game played between the icon and igloo teams. It is so refreshing to read posts like this. The boys on both teams competed as hard as they could, were respectful of each other and really epitomized what youth sports CAN be.

Igloo was a gracious winner and the icon boys walked off the field with their heads up.

I wish the folks that post inane my-kids-club-is-better-than yours rants could have seen that game and how those boys competed like true athletes.

Agreed, and most hard fought games are like that. It's the parents that are the children and come here and post crazy things about other teams, their parents, the coaches etc. hope the parents can take better examples from the kids.

I know a few outstanding 91 Orange(heat players) barely getting on the field and who paid big money. one in particular. what a shame. he'd be a stud on any other team and still get great instruction and experience. his parents must be blind

You might be right , there are two parents with a dog on their side every game, and Brian yells out their kids name to run faster, and when I look over the kid is standing on the side line. So Brian is fooling the poor blind parents, lol you are a loser.2

91 Orange is not a factor this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You might be right , there are two parents with a dog on their side every game, and Brian yells out their kids name to run faster, and when I look over the kid is standing on the side line. So Brian is fooling the poor blind parents, lol you are a loser.2

first of all how am I a loser? second off I'm not sure if they have a dog

What is the dog's name?

FYI, always look for a team that has no dad coaches.au

Disagree. All the top teams at each grade have dad coach. Like any most employees the hired coach will do the least amount required. If it says 5 tournaments and 20 practices, that's what you are getting. (Which is fair, but they won't take the extra time)

Agreed. Must have skin in the game to make sure things are done. We have a few professional coaches and not only do they cost $$$$ they don't do anything for free. But why would they....its their job. Most people don't do extra things for their boss for free. There are so many administrative things that go on for each team that parents have no idea about. A regular paid coach does none of them. You can have dad coaching without having daddy ball.

Please look at teams that coaches kid is not the top player and you will find a train wreck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Which teams have the best goalies and face off guys in 2021?

best face off kid I've seen at 2021....there's a kid who plays for legacy and the strong island saints that's excellent. not a big kid....just quick and strong. 91 ambush kid is excellent. no idea why he's not on the A team. that's probably some political daddy ball nonsense though. igloo avalanche goalie is excellent. cold spring harbor goalie is awesome too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Is their season over yet for God sakes!? some of my players play for them and haven't seen them since May!

Express goals is very good
Icon, legacy, 91 have strong faceoff kids big advantage for teams to have kids that can win the faceoff to get an offensive advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a few outstanding 91 Orange(heat players) barely getting on the field and who paid big money. one in particular. what a shame. he'd be a stud on any other team and still get great instruction and experience. his parents must be blind

So what you're saying is that unless your kid is a superstar, keep him off this team? I know of a few of their boys who moved to the Ambush team and I couldn't figure out why. This would make sense why they might move down.

They are going to lose a bunch of kids to legacy. The writing is on the wall about 10 of there kids are going to play for there varsity coach would be crazy not too. 91 coach listens to much to parents complaints instead of playing the best. Successful record because they ran from igloo.

Wow 10 kids from same town?

91 had a parent coach who played his town players and when someone else took over then they were upset that they lost their playing time. Maybe your kids weren't as good as you thought.

Time will tell my friend. Don't worry you will still have 13 kids and I'm sure you will get others. Cry to the coach so he sits others JUST PATHETIC!!

Does Legacy have three teams in this age group (2021) and if so, which is their best team?

1-Blue Knights
2-Titans
3-Cannons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Who did they play worth naming? I did see they beat Rising Sons this past weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-Blue Knights
2-Titans
3-Cannons

One of these teams in mainly made up of the old Riptide players. I think the Blue Knights took their top 3 but the core of that team is still riptide. Its why they have 3 teams. The Titans enjoy sandbagging in the B bracket at low level tourneys and beating teams by 20

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-Blue Knights
2-Titans
3-Cannons

One of these teams in mainly made up of the old Riptide players. I think the Blue Knights took their top 3 but the core of that team is still riptide. Its why they have 3 teams. The Titans enjoy sandbagging in the B bracket at low level tourneys and beating teams by 20

I dis-agree about the sandbagging statement. Yes they are the old Rip-Tide team. They are just a very good B team. From what I have seen they get beat pretty good playing in A, but they don't shy away from playing an A team.

I am not a 91 parent but my son's team has played them many times over the years. Anyone who thinks that Orange Heat is not a top team and avoids other teams has no clue. They can beat anyone including Igloo. I think people criticize this team because their kid got cut or they got beat by them. You may not agree with everything they do but they are one of if not the best 2021 team. They also have fair tryouts and don't have 7th grade kids unlike other top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Who did they play worth naming? I did see they beat Rising Sons this past weekend.

Sons will be back this was their first full Summer at 2021

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a 91 parent but my son's team has played them many times over the years. Anyone who thinks that Orange Heat is not a top team and avoids other teams has no clue. They can beat anyone including Igloo. I think people criticize this team because their kid got cut or they got beat by them. You may not agree with everything they do but they are one of if not the best 2021 team. They also have fair tryouts and don't have 7th grade kids unlike other top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

Okay 91 parent! Igloo Black Ice is the best team and has been for at least 4 years

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Who did they play worth naming? I did see they beat Rising Sons this past weekend.

Once the sons win something, then you can declare they will be back!!! They seemed to have regressed this year.

I think everyone knows that Igloo is the best but that does not mean 91 can't beat them. Sometimes I wonder if any of these parents ever played a sport. They think that beating a team one time in a year means that team can't beat them at all. Unfortunately the top teams don't play each other a lot. Would love to see Igloo, 91, Express and Icon play in a league or otherwise find a way to play each other a few times a year. None of these teams would be undefeated if that happened.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a 91 parent but my son's team has played them many times over the years. Anyone who thinks that Orange Heat is not a top team and avoids other teams has no clue. They can beat anyone including Igloo. I think people criticize this team because their kid got cut or they got beat by them. You may not agree with everything they do but they are one of if not the best 2021 team. They also have fair tryouts and don't have 7th grade kids unlike other top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

Okay 91 parent! Igloo Black Ice is the best team and has been for at least 4 years

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Who did they play worth naming? I did see they beat Rising Sons this past weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think everyone knows that Igloo is the best but that does not mean 91 can't beat them. Sometimes I wonder if any of these parents ever played a sport. They think that beating a team one time in a year means that team can't beat them at all. Unfortunately the top teams don't play each other a lot. Would love to see Igloo, 91, Express and Icon play in a league or otherwise find a way to play each other a few times a year. None of these teams would be undefeated if that happened.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a 91 parent but my son's team has played them many times over the years. Anyone who thinks that Orange Heat is not a top team and avoids other teams has no clue. They can beat anyone including Igloo. I think people criticize this team because their kid got cut or they got beat by them. You may not agree with everything they do but they are one of if not the best 2021 team. They also have fair tryouts and don't have 7th grade kids unlike other top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

Okay 91 parent! Igloo Black Ice is the best team and has been for at least 4 years

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Who did they play worth naming? I did see they beat Rising Sons this past weekend.

You are so right they should play more everyone travels all over when the better teams are right here ....... There still is only one undefeated team I believe and they are from LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams have the best goalies and face off guys in 2021?

Icon, 91, Express, Team LI and legacy have good faceoff kids
Express, icon, team LI good goalies

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a 91 parent but my son's team has played them many times over the years. Anyone who thinks that Orange Heat is not a top team and avoids other teams has no clue. They can beat anyone including Igloo. I think people criticize this team because their kid got cut or they got beat by them. You may not agree with everything they do but they are one of if not the best 2021 team. They also have fair tryouts and don't have 7th grade kids unlike other top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Orange is not a factor this year

For somebody that does not have a kid on the team you know an awful lot about this team. They may not have 7th graders but do they have hold backs? The tryout thing I am not buying either.

91 2021 Orange was 28-3-1 this year. All of their loses were one goal games.

Who did they play worth naming? I did see they beat Rising Sons this past weekend.

So who do folks think are the 2021 AA teams in the country? I say this not to rank them or beat chests, but it's actually helpful to know who's an AA team vs A so you can tell where your team stacks up if you win or lose. In my mind, a hotbed A team can run with a AA team on the field but the score will still be lopsided.

Here's my best guess and I have no connection with these teams other than playing some and seeing some play at tournaments and seeing scores against those teams:

Igloo Black Ice
Team 91 Heat
Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
Rising Sons
Cyclones
Mad Dog West

Teams that certainly seemed to have played multiple games at an AA level: Kooper's, Crabs, Roughriders, Express, STEPS Elite, EDGE and Icon

Again, no need for put downs - We are talking about little kids here. The above look like roughly the top 15 teams in the country either way. Some of these teams may play at an AA level less consistently and nothing wrong with that for 12 year olds.

This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

There's actually been pretty many games between some - not all - of these teams if you look at Beach Lax 2021AA, Young Guns, Summer Exposure U13A and NXT Cup, as well as to a lesser extent 2015 Maryland Lacrosse Tournament (McDonogh) and 2014's Greene Turtle Fall Invitational (McDonogh) and [lacrosse]'s (with 8/1 cutoff enforced and some kids surely missing).

Hawks have beaten Crabs in a championship, tied GT and lost by 2 to 91. I have no doubt they are a AA team but it does seem like they have some tight wins over A teams. Likewise, I have no doubt GT is a AA team, but they don't always beat A teams with lopsided scores. I would have thought for sure Bethesda was AA after last Summer but maybe other teams have caught up. Roughriders beat Crabs and Express at Beach after going 2-4 HoCo - either some great coaching or added players.

It certainly is interesting that two non-hotbed teams lost by only one goal to Igloo. The Carolina team at World Series U13 was the Cyclones 2021 team, so next year should be interesting to watch. Like [lacrosse]'s, that's no true national championship, but like [lacrosse]'s U11 the last few years, they did have the top team in the country win. And what 13 yer old wouldn't want to play on ESPN2 or hear their name mentioned even if not in finals.

Again, none of this matters much at all, but it does seem like 2021 offer a lot of great competition at a high level, which is all you can ask. (This 2021 board is also a lot less crazy than other BOTC threads.)

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

[quote=Anonymous]This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

[/quote

Far assessment but 91 is there based on name alone. They haven't done much this season and Rising Sons belong in the second tier. They are not close to igloo and haven't been at all this season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

This would make for some tournament.

So what do you say igloo? You have the fields. Charge the teams what you feel and put out an Invitation to the top 6 teams before the tryouts start and everyone gets to play everyone.

I am sure Mommy's and Daddy's would pay the $25-30 bucks a kid to watch all these kids play each other. Heck invite 8 teams and let's see how they stack up.

Would the MD and NC teams make the trip? Haha wishful thinking I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

[quote=Anonymous]This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

[/quote

Far assessment but 91 is there based on name alone. They haven't done much this season and Rising Sons belong in the second tier. They are not close to igloo and haven't been at all this season

The Jesters also beat TLI at Blantant and the Top Legacy team . They should be concerned in very solid team bracket.

The day jesters beat team long it was pouring rain and there were many surprise results because of the rain that tournament. Jesters lost multiple times to 91 White and lost to Outlaws Silver. Yes the silver team. jesters lost to many B teams and played B div at Laxfest. Igloo Avalanche is a decent team and very talented especially for a first year team but they are not an A team just yet. Many times very talented second teams don't stay together long. Cudas are a great Example. They lasted one year as an A team. If Avalache can keep players they could be An A team in time. The second and third years will be critical for Avalache. They need to retain talented player they do have now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

[quote=Anonymous]This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

[/quote

Far assessment but 91 is there based on name alone. They haven't done much this season and Rising Sons belong in the second tier. They are not close to igloo and haven't been at all this season

The Jesters also beat TLI at Blantant and the Top Legacy team . They should be concerned in very solid team bracket.

Jesters beat TLI at Forseberg not Blatent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The day jesters beat team long it was pouring rain and there were many surprise results because of the rain that tournament. Jesters lost multiple times to 91 White and lost to Outlaws Silver. Yes the silver team. jesters lost to many B teams and played B div at Laxfest. Igloo Avalanche is a decent team and very talented especially for a first year team but they are not an A team just yet. Many times very talented second teams don't stay together long. Cudas are a great Example. They lasted one year as an A team. If Avalache can keep players they could be An A team in time. The second and third years will be critical for Avalache. They need to retain talented player they do have now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

[quote=Anonymous]This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

[/quote

Far assessment but 91 is there based on name alone. They haven't done much this season and Rising Sons belong in the second tier. They are not close to igloo and haven't been at all this season

The Jesters also beat TLI at Blantant and the Top Legacy team . They should be concerned in very solid team bracket.

You discredit a teams victory because of the rain? Unless it only rained on one side of the field , I'm a little confused by that rational.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You discredit a teams victory because of the rain? Unless it only rained on one side of the field , I'm a little confused by that rational.

It's igloo coping.

When did the Jesters beat Legacy Blue Knights? That is legacy's "A" team. At Forseberg Jesters beat the Legacy Titans 4-3 but that is legacy's "B" team. Jesters lost to Express 2022 12-2. Express 2022 is not even a top 5 2022 team. Stop trying to convince people the Jesters are an A team to feel better about Igloo's loss to them. Truth is Igloo Avalanche and Jesters don't belong on this list. The only ones trying to convince people they both belong are people related to Igloo in some way. If Igloo adds talented players for next year they will probably be an "A" team. They do have a great program and great coaching/director. However many don't like that they market this Avalanche team as an "A" team when they are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

[quote=Anonymous]This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

[/quote

Far assessment but 91 is there based on name alone. They haven't done much this season and Rising Sons belong in the second tier. They are not close to igloo and haven't been at all this season

The Jesters also beat TLI at Blantant and the Top Legacy team . They should be concerned in very solid team bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When did the Jesters beat Legacy Blue Knights? That is legacy's "A" team. At Forseberg Jesters beat the Legacy Titans 4-3 but that is legacy's "B" team. Jesters lost to Express 2022 12-2. Express 2022 is not even a top 5 2022 team. Stop trying to convince people the Jesters are an A team to feel better about Igloo's loss to them. Truth is Igloo Avalanche and Jesters don't belong on this list. The only ones trying to convince people they both belong are people related to Igloo in some way. If Igloo adds talented players for next year they will probably be an "A" team. They do have a great program and great coaching/director. However many don't like that they market this Avalanche team as an "A" team when they are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

[quote=Anonymous]This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

[/quote

Far assessment but 91 is there based on name alone. They haven't done much this season and Rising Sons belong in the second tier. They are not close to igloo and haven't

been at all this season

The Jesters also beat TLI at Blantant and the Top Legacy team . They should be concerned in very solid team bracket.

Jesters beat the blue Knights in a summer league two weeks ago. The team that lost to the 2022 express was a high bread of the 2021 and 2022 because the tournament was added on the wed.

So what is this years Marketing strategy to get all those kids back to Orange for next year? Hearing a huge chunk of the team are going to be parting their ways , will kids be brought up from Ambush? Or will they start from scratch? Again what line of BS will keep this team together ? Its funny how large the LAX community is but so easy to find out from loose lips what may go down the next season with people you stand on the sideline and hold that phony Grin .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what is this years Marketing strategy to get all those kids back to Orange for next year? Hearing a huge chunk of the team are going to be parting their ways , will kids be brought up from Ambush? Or will they start from scratch? Again what line of BS will keep this team together ? Its funny how large the LAX community is but so easy to find out from loose lips what may go down the next season with people you stand on the sideline and hold that phony Grin .

I have no doubt that that head coach already knows who will be on his roster next year

[/quote]

Jesters beat the blue Knights in a summer league two weeks ago. The team that lost to the 2022 express was a high bread of the 2021 and 2022 because the tournament was added on the wed. [/quote]

I hope "high bread" was some kind of auto correct for hybrid - not intentionally spelled that way. Funny.

No one is leaving that team, they will all try out again.

One thing to keep in mind some kids are going to hit puberty soon, so from August to next June, kids will mature at different rates.

That's what the guy next to you is saying, you keep thinking that !
Use the imagination .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters beat the blue Knights in a summer league two weeks ago. The team that lost to the 2022 express was a high bread of the 2021 and 2022 because the tournament was added on the wed. [/quote]

I hope "high bread" was some kind of auto correct for hybrid - not intentionally spelled that way. Funny.
[/quote]
I doubt the Jesters can beat the Blue Knights in a tournament. Summer league did not have the full squad.

Get a field and a ref and put it to rest.

Summer league games are for fun. You can't go by that. Kids don't show up and kids play out of position. In tournaments the Jesters beat legacy b team by one ,lost to outlaws b team by 2 and lost to 91 b team a couple of times by one or two. Jesters also beat igloo b by one. These teams are all evenly matched and should be grouped together and are all second teams in their programs except for jesters. Stop trying to convince everyone the jesters and igloo b are not a b team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters beat the blue Knights in a summer league two weeks ago. The team that lost to the 2022 express was a high bread of the 2021 and 2022 because the tournament was added on the wed.

I hope "high bread" was some kind of auto correct for hybrid - not intentionally spelled that way. Funny.
[/quote]
I doubt the Jesters can beat the Blue Knights in a tournament. Summer league did not have the full squad.
[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer league games are for fun. You can't go by that. Kids don't show up and kids play out of position. In tournaments the Jesters beat legacy b team by one ,lost to outlaws b team by 2 and lost to 91 b team a couple of times by one or two. Jesters also beat igloo b by one. These teams are all evenly matched and should be grouped together and are all second teams in their programs except for jesters. Stop trying to convince everyone the jesters and igloo b are not a b team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol. You are correcting spelling and making excuses ? Come on. They lost. It happens.

Jesters beat the blue Knights in a summer league two weeks ago. The team that lost to the 2022 express was a high bread of the 2021 and 2022 because the tournament was added on the wed.

I hope "high bread" was some kind of auto correct for hybrid - not intentionally spelled that way. Funny.

I doubt the Jesters can beat the Blue Knights in a tournament. Summer league did not have the full squad.
[/quote] [/quote]

you're right about summer league. kids don't show up. this year was my first year doing it. 2021 ddivision. great league. that wasn't the problem. it was the fact that it was the summer and I had about 7 or 8 kids consistently each week either not showing up because they were playing on other teams or away with family. sometimes we'd be playing two games with 12 kids. never knew who was coming week to week until they showed up. definitely wasn't fun in a coaching aspect. it'll probably be my last year doing it. it was also interesting to see none of the upper echelon teams participated in this league and I understand why.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When did the Jesters beat Legacy Blue Knights? That is legacy's "A" team. At Forseberg Jesters beat the Legacy Titans 4-3 but that is legacy's "B" team. Jesters lost to Express 2022 12-2. Express 2022 is not even a top 5 2022 team. Stop trying to convince people the Jesters are an A team to feel better about Igloo's loss to them. Truth is Igloo Avalanche and Jesters don't belong on this list. The only ones trying to convince people they both belong are people related to Igloo in some way. If Igloo adds talented players for next year they will probably be an "A" team. They do have a great program and great coaching/director. However many don't like that they market this Avalanche team as an "A" team when they are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Avalanche lost to the Jesters and were down 6-1 when Jesters changed positions of kids. That is when Igloo made a comeback. After that Jesters went back to their normal positions and won the game. West coast Starz lost to almost everyone last Month at the Express tourney and came in 8th place out of 9 teams. Express is AA and ranks with the best teams.

[quote=Anonymous]This list is a good starting point. All these teams are right there. I got to say in general that 2021 class has a lot more parity then a lot of other grades. Talent is either spread way out, or there is just a lot of talent out there. Either way it makes for great club lacrosse.

The second point I'd like to make is in order to rank teams which we should never do, teams have to play each other several times. One game is never a good indicator of how a team stacks up. The circumstances in which they play has a lot to do with the outcome. for example, back to back games in a tournament when one team is rested, key players hurt, or absent, bad games, really good games by teams. They all don't play enough of each other to rank them properly. With that said in no particular order I would put the most elite 2021 teams down as follows:

Igloo Black Ice
Carolina Cyclones
Maddog Lax
Crabs
Rising Sons
Team 91

The next tear of teams can play with any of the teams above and beat them if they play well.

Hawks Green
Greene Turtle
Bethesda
ICON
West Coast Stars

Other very solid Teams:
Team Long Island
Express A
Igloo Avalanche
PrimeTime

Just my two cents, not that its worth anything.

[/quote

Far assessment but 91 is there based on name alone. They haven't done much this season and Rising Sons belong in the second tier. They are not close to igloo and haven't been at all this season

The Jesters also beat TLI at Blantant and the Top Legacy team . They should be concerned in very solid team bracket.

and the saints spanked the jesters 11-0 in blatant tournament

how could you say Avalanche and Jesters and not mention 91 White

Whenever my son's team loses its because the kids cant stay off the "High Bread". I also blame Obamacare. And a Sasquatch. This team is better because I say so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whenever my son's team loses its because the kids cant stay off the "High Bread". I also blame Obamacare. And a Sasquatch. This team is better because I say so.

Lmfaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooo

Congratulations to team 91 White for winning in Hershey PA this past weekend. They should be ranked with the stronger teams in the 2021 year.

They played 5th and 6th grade B teams. Not a real accomplishmeent!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to team 91 White for winning in Hershey PA this past weekend. They should be ranked with the stronger teams in the 2021 year.

After the summer circuit the top 6-8 teams in the 2021 group:

Igloo Black
T91
Crabs
Hawks Green
Carolina Cyclones (are they a state wide team)
Rising Sons

I don't see a huge talent gap between these teams like some age groups. Should make for a great "to get to Denver" Battles.

Very hard picking the top six but for discussion I would have Icon over a few in there. They are better than T91 and even though they lost to Rising Sons at Crap Fest everyone there knows who was the better team that day and it showed the next day when they played Igloo to a one goal game and the Igloo Rising Son game was not game. I would ask many of the Igloo coach's/players who is better.

I think Outlaws Black 2021 deserves a mention. Team looks more competitive than last year and has gone toe-to-toe with the named teams and held their own if not winning. Alot of talent. Wonder if they will stay together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the summer circuit the top 6-8 teams in the 2021 group:

Igloo Black
T91
Crabs
Hawks Green
Carolina Cyclones (are they a state wide team)
Rising Sons

I don't see a huge talent gap between these teams like some age groups. Should make for a great "to get to Denver" Battles.

Considering there will be 4 teams from each region, they should all be able to make it if they are interested.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Outlaws Black 2021 deserves a mention. Team looks more competitive than last year and has gone toe-to-toe with the named teams and held their own if not winning. Alot of talent. Wonder if they will stay together.

They are very good team but are a notch under Igloo, 91, Wolverines, and Icon. Probably fall somewhere between the top 5-8 teams on LI at this age. It will be hard to get better, the top studs at the other programs are not leaving so unless somebody explodes at puberty or moves here they are more likely to pick up the top teams 5th attackmen or 7th middy

Yes- a notch under. But not by much. 1-2 players could make a difference. From what I see they have upgraded every year and are knocking in the door. If they hold what they have and upgrade in a few spots (midfield and G)- they will start to surprise some of these teams. Tryouts- especially theirs being early, should be interesting.

Legacy is getting some of 91 kids And is heavily going after other teams kids. See how tryouts [lacrosse]

I have 3 older kids, I can go through a list of kid that where the top dogs in 6th grade, and now they are average at best, some will always be the best, believe me if you think all the best kids are already on the top teams, you are crazy.

Absolutely correct. Some will bloom late and some recede. As for the talented player not getting enough reps, they will generally find the right situation in a stanle team that changes a bit each year with a sane and stable head coach. That is how teams like the Outlaws (or other teams) go from 5th best to one of the top teams in late grades. Stability and good coaching.

Agree

So you are saying kids are going to leave 91, who is spitting out D1 players, To go play for a team that enters in B bracket tournaments, please take a selfie when your face is turning blue, no one can hold there breath for that long.

You have been drinking too much 91 Cool-Aid. Spitting out D1 players? You really think? Anyone with any skill would be far better off getting to a team where they actually get to play. Yes- their best 5-6 guys get noticed- beyond that the guys are just filler- they play while the others get a quick drink.

Hard to put Outlaws in any region of a top team, I do know they lost pretty good to the Garden City 2021 town team in the fl$ tourney and I really don't think they can compete with the Igloo, Icon or 91 teams in the 2021 bracket. They are at best a top B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hard to put Outlaws in any region of a top team, I do know they lost pretty good to the Garden City 2021 town team in the fl$ tourney and I really don't think they can compete with the Igloo, Icon or 91 teams in the 2021 bracket. They are at best a top B team.

Yes lost to Gc 7-4 in fl$ but Outlaws beat fl$ pretty good in the next game. And fl$ beat GC 9-3 two weeks later twice in the same tourney.
They are 12, you get inconsistency.

Top teams are more consistent.

It would be great if someone would start up a Spring/Summer league so all the LI teams could play and settle this debates.

They absolutely can compete with them. And GC "town" team is anything but. I have followed these guys for a while now and am impressed with how they compete without having stars in the team. I think the team concept will eventually ecclipse the star centered teams.

The top 2 kids from GC and their goalie play Icon and they are very good but there is no way GC or any top town team can compete with the top club teams. I'm sure if Outlaws and GC played 10 times they may split or GC may even get the better of them. I think Outlaws played Icon at the JDRF and it was alot to alittle and knowing who the Icon coach's are there is no way they would run up the score. So are the Outlaws and good club team I guess yes but there is no way they can be considered up there with the better ones. Put it this way I don't think Igloo Icon and 91 will be knocking on the doors of the Outlaw players to come and play with them while I would think the Outlaws would open the doors to get some of their players. Sorry but they just are not there, I'm sure great kids and beat some of the out of town travel teams but not the top ones.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They absolutely can compete with them. And GC "town" team is anything but. I have followed these guys for a while now and am impressed with how they compete without having stars in the team. I think the team concept will eventually ecclipse the star centered teams.

WHen was the last time the WOlverines, 91, Igloo, Icon lost to a town team ?

When was the last time igloo lost?

Agreed. The Outlaws 2021 team has managed to stay together for years and are now only one or two players away at one or two positions from competing. Keeping these kids together and developing them as a team over the years with very few changes each year has worked well for them and is a credit to the team and club. I wish more teams would get better the way they did with developing kids over the years with very few changes each year. I wish them luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes- a notch under. But not by much. 1-2 players could make a difference. From what I see they have upgraded every year and are knocking in the door. If they hold what they have and upgrade in a few spots (midfield and G)- they will start to surprise some of these teams. Tryouts- especially theirs being early, should be interesting.

This is the year the top four will make more changes than ever before. Last year Igloo was so much better than everyone else. Although they lost one time they destroyed that team later on last year. They also beat every other team a lot to a little. This year although undefeated won many games by only one goal. They beat Icon only 4-3 at the end of the season. They can't be happy with that and many are sure they will be looking to upgrade to try and pull back ahead. Other AA teams especially out of state teams have caught up to them. As for Icon many think they are number two now. They added a bunch of kids this year that pushed them from number 5 to 2. They want to keep improving and maybe challenge Igloo for number one next year. They are a great team but need to make changes like they did last year to keep up and improve. 91 and Express both dropped from last year and did not look as good as they once did. They both lost more games this year and had close games with teams they would have crushed last year. Word is they are looking for some defense and depth at other positions. Express and 91 were saved too many times by great goaltending. For the first time in the 2021 year the AA teams can't afford to not make changes. From what is being said it appears they know they must improve by roster changes. It will be very interesting to see what happens this tryout season. Rankings are sure to change next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. The Outlaws 2021 team has managed to stay together for years and are now only one or two players away at one or two positions from competing. Keeping these kids together and developing them as a team over the years with very few changes each year has worked well for them and is a credit to the team and club. I wish more teams would get better the way they did with developing kids over the years with very few changes each year. I wish them luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes- a notch under. But not by much. 1-2 players could make a difference. From what I see they have upgraded every year and are knocking in the door. If they hold what they have and upgrade in a few spots (midfield and G)- they will start to surprise some of these teams. Tryouts- especially theirs being early, should be interesting.

Didnt they lose to Heat by 10 last tournament ?

Why do all our LI teams need to travel out of state to end up playing most of the time, another LI team? We need to create a LI league which lasts from June to August. Best record wins like in any other athletic sport. So if year after year if team "X" continues to have the best winning record and win the Championship game, then they should be crowned the best.
Let these other teams from other states come visit us. It's time to unite on some front instead of chest pounding.

because you could do that with one year. The 2020 year has 3 teams and the rest are not very good at all.

I wouldn't leave Greene Turtle out of the top 10.

Cyclones are a Charlotte team - and there are a lot of Charlotte teams. Fun to see a non-hotbed team compete at the highest level.

2021 seems like a very good year for competition. Hope it doesn't get ruined by a bunch of holdbacks dropping down when school ends next Spring.

Again Icon is a very good team but both there goalies played extremely well vs Igloo at young gunz the goalie in the 2nd half had 5 point blank saves. would have loved to seen the stat on shots against. Let's put it this way Icon made there shots Igloo did not. Not taking anything away from Icon they are a great team . Good Luck to ALL in up and coming try-outs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is getting some of 91 kids And is heavily going after other teams kids. See how tryouts [lacrosse]

legacy needs to get their stuff together in this grade level. Lots of division and animosity. Think twice before taking this path. Egos, parent coaches and different agendas equals unproductive teams.

Ok Icon parent!!Icon lost to express this yr.get your facts straight and did not win any tournaments. SO how r they second because they lost to igloo by one, igloo had a bad game.

Most would disagree with you. Legacy 2021 has a great 2021 program. They just tied the Green Turtle in VT. Some think the turtles are a top ten team. They have played all the A teams and beat them or played a close game. They even did well against some AA team. They practice a lot and great coaching. They are probably the best option for kids to play for who can't make the top 4 teams who are AA or who play for a AA team and want more playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is getting some of 91 kids And is heavily going after other teams kids. See how tryouts [lacrosse]

legacy needs to get their stuff together in this grade level. Lots of division and animosity. Think twice before taking this path. Egos, parent coaches and different agendas equals unproductive teams.

If Legacy can add a few decent defensemen they will be a AA team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most would disagree with you. Legacy 2021 has a great 2021 program. They just tied the Green Turtle in VT. Some think the turtles are a top ten team. They have played all the A teams and beat them or played a close game. They even did well against some AA team. They practice a lot and great coaching. They are probably the best option for kids to play for who can't make the top 4 teams who are AA or who play for a AA team and want more playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is getting some of 91 kids And is heavily going after other teams kids. See how tryouts [lacrosse]

legacy needs to get their stuff together in this grade level. Lots of division and animosity. Think twice before taking this path. Egos, parent coaches and different agendas equals unproductive teams.

Did legacy have express kids on team in VT?

Fantastic inaugural season for the 2021 Express North team. The kids had a lot of fun and improved their overall play at each tournament. The success was the cherry on top. Thank you coaches for your dedication, my son thoroughly enjoyed every practice and has never been pushed so hard to reach his full potential. Looking forward to fall lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Legacy can add a few decent defensemen they will be a AA team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most would disagree with you. Legacy 2021 has a great 2021 program. They just tied the Green Turtle in VT. Some think the turtles are a top ten team. They have played all the A teams and beat them or played a close game. They even did well against some AA team. They practice a lot and great coaching. They are probably the best option for kids to play for who can't make the top 4 teams who are AA or who play for a AA team and want more playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is getting some of 91 kids And is heavily going after other teams kids. See how tryouts [lacrosse]

legacy needs to get their stuff together in this grade level. Lots of division and animosity. Think twice before taking this path. Egos, parent coaches and different agendas equals unproductive teams.

Just defensemen? I think they need a lot more. What strong positions do they have?

I love it, since the program specific threads have been removed, evryone is either campaigning or bashing on the age specific threads. tryout season is upon us

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it, since the program specific threads have been removed, evryone is either campaigning or bashing on the age specific threads. tryout season is upon us

And the landscape can all change in the next few weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok Icon parent!!Icon lost to express this yr.get your facts straight and did not win any tournaments. SO how r they second because they lost to igloo by one, igloo had a bad game.

Yeah at the beginning of the year and what did express do after that

Ok Icon parent!!Icon lost to express this yr.get your facts straight and did not win any tournaments. SO how r they second because they lost to igloo by one, igloo had a bad game.[/quote]

Yeah at the beginning of the year and what did express do after that

Glad you asked. In their last 4 tournaments this year they won 2 of them beating Laxachusettes black in the finals of one and Patriot by 10 goals in the other. In the other 2 they lost one in the finals to 91 and they lost in the final 20 seconds to Laxachusettes black up in Mass. Basically they beat everyone they played except 91 and lax black ( who they also beat twice). They have some extremely good players and will be one of the dominant teams next year.

Express got weaker when Summer started and Icon got stronger. By the end of the season one can argue that Express was not AA anymore and dropped down to A. I'm sure spots will be open for next season.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok Icon parent!!Icon lost to express this yr.get your facts straight and did not win any tournaments. SO how r they second because they lost to igloo by one, igloo had a bad game.

Yeah at the beginning of the year and what did express do after that [/quote]

Is it 91 "spitting out" D1 Players OR they are just athletes...You people never cease to amaze me...GET YOUR HEAD STRAIGHT AND WAKE UP

Don't Care what year Jesters...Junk team and organization...Jesters, what has been said many times before...you are a joke stay away from the competition you are screwing up the brackets...

EXPRESS 2021...LMFAO! Got to lose one more coach and maybe they can rebuild with the big guy!

Ok Icon parent!!Icon lost to express this yr.get your facts straight and did not win any tournaments. SO how r they second because they lost to igloo by one, igloo had a bad game.

Yeah at the beginning of the year and what did express do after that

Express won 3 tournaments this summer including the last one they played where they dominated Patriot by 10 goals in the finals. Not sure Icon won anything? Also Express beat Icon in a final by several goals and Express was a much much better team by the end of the season.

I don't know about that. Express was thumped by every good team. I wouldn't call Laxachussetts a good team. Not one to hang your hat on at all.

Express was 2-2 against laxachucetts getting beat in one game 8-3 give or take a goal. They beat laxachusets by one goal. They lost to igloo 14-4. Express is not in the top three. That is for igloo , icon and 91 in that order. Not sure who is 4 and 5 between express and TLI. I would guess express would beat TLI because tli had some bad games. Express got worse as the season went on. Even Igloo B played them close. I'm sure express will be looking for players at every position. High turnover means they are not AA.

te=Anonymous]I don't know about that. Express was thumped by every good team. I wouldn't call Laxachussetts a good team. Not one to hang your hat on at all. [/quote]

Laxachusetts beat Express 11-4 at the Express tournament not 8-3.

Express won 3 tournaments this summer. Icon won 0. Express best icon by 2 or 3 goals when they played against each other head to head Express dominated in their season ending tournament. Sorry but facts are facts. That would lead most people to rank Express ahead. However, if they played 10 times they would have some excellent games. Both are strong programs and will probably both continue to get better.

Express was 2-2 against laxachucetts getting beat in one game 8-3 give or take a goal. They beat laxachusets by one goal. They lost to igloo 14-4. Express is not in the top three. That is for igloo , icon and 91 in that order. Not sure who is 4 and 5 between express and TLI. I would guess express would beat TLI because tli had some bad games. Express got worse as the season went on. Even Igloo B played them close. I'm sure express will be looking for players at every position. High turnover means they are not AA.

te=Anonymous]I don't know about that. Express was thumped by every good team. I wouldn't call Laxachussetts a good team. Not one to hang your hat on at all. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Anonymous]Laxachusetts beat Express 11-4 at the Express tournament not 8-3.

And then Express beat them when it mattered in the championship by 2 goals.

Laxachussets is not a great team so I guess we can put Express into that category too. Maybe if they played the other top teams closely, then you can say they are a top team. Until then, you can't. They weren't even close to Igloo, 91, crabs, etc.
Not for nothing, but their tournaments were weak. Almost gimmies

Where was Team Tiger from ? They played today at pridefest ?

]Laxachussets is not a great team so I guess we can put Express into that category too. Maybe if they played the other top teams closely, then you can say they are a top team. Until then, you can't. They weren't even close to Igloo, 91, crabs, etc.
Not for nothing, but their tournaments were weak. Almost gimmies

Lax black is a very good team. Not sure if you actually ever saw them this summer? And if beating them and Icon among many others to actually win tournaments are gimmes would love to hear what should actually count as legit. Always much easier to try and discredit accomplishments than show success.

Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where was Team Tiger from ? They played today at pridefest ?

Team Tiger does not have a 2021 team. They are drone Northport.

Express beat Icon in late March or early April on Easter break when families were away. So give Express the "W", but Icon, for one, was not fully represented. By then the shamrock shootout had already been rescheduled a few times so the show had to go on, it is what it is ... On the other hand I was surprised that Express didn't go to LI Laxfest or the Young Gunz invitational tournament. Those two tournaments are generally attended by top teams and Express was conspicuously absent from both. Any insights?

Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone.

Except igloo, icon, 91, and 2-3 teams in Maryland.

s]Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone. [/quote]

Except igloo, icon, 91, and 2-3 teams in Maryland.

Not sure why Icon keeps getting mentioned with this group. The only teams that won elite/AA tournaments from this group this summer were igloo, 91, and Express. And Express and Igloo both beat Icon this summer. Not sure about 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

s]Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone.

Except igloo, icon, 91, and 2-3 teams in Maryland.

Not sure why Icon keeps getting mentioned with this group. The only teams that won elite/AA tournaments from this group this summer were igloo, 91, and Express. And Express and Igloo both beat Icon this summer. Not sure about 91. [/quote]how does one person have this much info on 6/7 grade lacrosse. my God. you have a lot of time on your hands to know that much about the face of 2021 lax for next season. no hobbies?

What AA team did Express beat? They did beat A teams in close games but got beat by a lot by AA teams. Icon played AA teams closer and beat all A teams by a lot. Icon is a top 3 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

s]Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone.

Except igloo, icon, 91, and 2-3 teams in Maryland.

Not sure why Icon keeps getting mentioned with this group. The only teams that won elite/AA tournaments from this group this summer were igloo, 91, and Express. And Express and Igloo both beat Icon this summer. Not sure about 91.

how does one person have this much info on 6/7 grade lacrosse. my God. you have a lot of time on your hands to know that much about the face of 2021 lax for next season. no hobbies? [/quote]

And don't say Express beat Icon because we already know the top players from icon did not play in that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What AA team did Express beat? They did beat A teams in close games but got beat by a lot by AA teams. Icon played AA teams closer and beat all A teams by a lot. Icon is a top 3 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

s]Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone.

Except igloo, icon, 91, and 2-3 teams in Maryland.

Not sure why Icon keeps getting mentioned with this group. The only teams that won elite/AA tournaments from this group this summer were igloo, 91, and Express. And Express and Igloo both beat Icon this summer. Not sure about 91.

how does one person have this much info on 6/7 grade lacrosse. my God. you have a lot of time on your hands to know that much about the face of 2021 lax for next season. no hobbies?

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And don't say Express beat Icon because we already know the top players from icon did not play in that game.

Express beat Icon. In a championship game. I am Sorry if your players do not show up for big games. That is odd.

Funny stuff. Express parent claims Icon is not AA and not as good as Express because
Icon never won a AA tournament or beat another AA team. When the Express parent is asked to name one AA team they beat this year the answer is Icon. Does that mean Icon is AA? Also if icon is not AA that means Express did not beat any AA teams either. Under that standard that the the Express parent excludes Icon from AA status it compels the conclusion Express is not AA either having failed to beat a AA team this year. This is especially so when Ecpress beat Icon they were not AA that day given Icon was missing many top players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And don't say Express beat Icon because we already know the top players from icon did not play in that game.

Express beat Icon. In a championship game. I am Sorry if your players do not show up for big games. That is odd.

You are all crazy. Be happy your son is playing and move on.

And the question of where Express was for a couple of big tournaments this year such as Laxfest and Young Guns remains unanswered...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny stuff. Express parent claims Icon is not AA and not as good as Express because
Icon never won a AA tournament or beat another AA team. When the Express parent is asked to name one AA team they beat this year the answer is Icon. Does that mean Icon is AA? Also if icon is not AA that means Express did not beat any AA teams either. Under that standard that the the Express parent excludes Icon from AA status it compels the conclusion Express is not AA either having failed to beat a AA team this year. This is especially so when Ecpress beat Icon they were not AA that day given Icon was missing many top players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And don't say Express beat Icon because we already know the top players from icon did not play in that game.

Express beat Icon. In a championship game. I am Sorry if your players do not show up for big games. That is odd.

Express lost to Laxxachusetts11-3 and igloo 14-4. Laxxachusetts is not aa and neither is express. Going 2-2 against laxxachusetts and 3 of those games being a one goal game and getting beat by them by 8 goals in the fourth game proves express is not aa. Express if they were aa should have destroyed them in all four games. Express is looking to make changes. Giving up 7 goals to the Two Way lacrosse team and many goals against other non a teams when they have one of the best goalie shows they need help at at stopping goals. It is no secret they are looking and This is a good opportunity this year to make this team. They are a good program because they are one of the best with getting kids into college.

Express got Slapped good by 91 orange this season already , the disappointed look on MC face when the score started to pull away was priceless .. He will never compete against 91 .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What AA team did Express beat? They did beat A teams in close games but got beat by a lot by AA teams. Icon played AA teams closer and beat all A teams by a lot. Icon is a top 3 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

s]Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone.

Except igloo, icon, 91, and 2-3 teams in Maryland.

Not sure why Icon keeps getting mentioned with this group. The only teams that won elite/AA tournaments from this group this summer were igloo, 91, and Express. And Express and Igloo both beat Icon this summer. Not sure about 91.

how does one person have this much info on 6/7 grade lacrosse. my God. you have a lot of time on your hands to know that much about the face of 2021 lax for next season. no hobbies?

[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got Slapped good by 91 orange this season already , the disappointed look on MC face when the score started to pull away was priceless .. He will never compete against 91 .

Never say never. Clubs reign for a while and then the tides change. seen it over and over. keep the focus on your kid or kids if you are the coach. don't worry about MC. He's so not worried about you I'm sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What AA team did Express beat? They did beat A teams in close games but got beat by a lot by AA teams. Icon played AA teams closer and beat all A teams by a lot. Icon is a top 3 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

s]Express will make a lot of changes next year especially at D. They won't compete next year with the current team. There was a big decline after the spring. They beat Icon early in the season. Icon got much better by the end of the season. Proof one goal game against igloo who beat Express by ten when express was playng the best they played all season. Considering the entire season and not just one win Icon is the better team. Express is more on the level with the next layer of teams like team Long Island.

Actually When Express played Igloo it was early in the summer and the team was still figuring things out. Probably one of their worst games all season. Not sure who is saying they were playing there best then but clearly not a parent or someone who ever actually watched them play. Probably someone concerned they will continue to get better. They came together and were playing outstanding team lacrosse by the end of the summer. They are a very talented team. A few additions and they will be able to beat anyone.

Except igloo, icon, 91, and 2-3 teams in Maryland.

Not sure why Icon keeps getting mentioned with this group. The only teams that won elite/AA tournaments from this group this summer were igloo, 91, and Express. And Express and Igloo both beat Icon this summer. Not sure about 91.

how does one person have this much info on 6/7 grade lacrosse. my God. you have a lot of time on your hands to know that much about the face of 2021 lax for next season. no hobbies?

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Win every single tournament except two!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Win every single tournament except two!!

wth does that mean?

Why on earth are 2021 parents already worried about recruiting.

What parents are worried about recruiting?

2021 parents don't need to be concerned with recruiting now, but if their child wants to play lax at college level and the parent wants to give them the opportunity to make that happen than it is the time to get on that Selective solid team this Fall- if they are not already....parents need to be concerned about playing for a top club team where their child will get better with solid teammates and with that a bit down the road ( and not to far down the road these days) the recruitment and exposure to college coaches will fall into place.... Of course they are those crazy great athletes that this does not apply to but to most others now is the time to start aligning themselves with the right teams...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why on earth are 2021 parents already worried about recruiting.

Possibly because of the exposure that the World Series of Youth Lacrosse just had - a game on ESPN2. 2021 teams will be competing to go to Denver in 2016 to participate, provided they win whatever qualifier tournaments they set up. Given this exposure and experience there is no doubt recruiting is on this grade's radar.

For Long Island the only team that applies for is Igloo. After that it does not matter which team you are on. Just make sure you tryout for a team that practices a lot. I see far too many teams charging $1500 to $2000 and even more that guarantee less then 20 practices. Stay away from those teams that won't assure you the number of practices needed to get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why on earth are 2021 parents already worried about recruiting.

Possibly because of the exposure that the World Series of Youth Lacrosse just had - a game on ESPN2. 2021 teams will be competing to go to Denver in 2016 to participate, provided they win whatever qualifier tournaments they set up. Given this exposure and experience there is no doubt recruiting is on this grade's radar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why on earth are 2021 parents already worried about recruiting.

Possibly because of the exposure that the World Series of Youth Lacrosse just had - a game on ESPN2. 2021 teams will be competing to go to Denver in 2016 to participate, provided they win whatever qualifier tournaments they set up. Given this exposure and experience there is no doubt recruiting is on this grade's radar.

No one's recruiting 7th graders

No one is getting scholarships anymore unless you are the best of the best so stop dreaming that ur child is being recruited!

my god please don't commit to any school before visiting Miami. after visiting Miami, if you decide you would like to go to school in the middle of Baltimore or on some farm in the middle of nowhere then you have more will power than me. Club ball all the way. practice and jump in the ocean.

Anybody know when the Icon tryouts are?? All other top teams are posted but haven't been able to locate info for Icon. I checked their website but not updated yet.

That's why ICON a terrible organization. There is no organization. Terrible because southern Nassau county needs a good
Local program and name. Bad move PM