Boys 2025-9th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - US Lacrosse Community Forum

Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to Boys 2025 (9th Graders) for the Fall 2021/Summer 2022 season.

Check ur math.. 2025’s would make some big 5th graders!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check ur math.. 2025’s would make some big 5th graders!

LOL that maybe meant for Maryland

Yes, the 25's were all reclassified. WSYL: HERE WE COME!

Something not right here on grad year. 2025 Rebels had Over 100 kids today. Actually too many .

When is 91 posting rosters? (Or is it a bad sign that we haven’t heard anything?) I missed the parent meeting at the end of camp. We’re new to this. Thanks for any help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When is 91 posting rosters? (Or is it a bad sign that we haven’t heard anything?) I missed the parent meeting at the end of camp. We’re new to this. Thanks for any help.

Express is out.

Yes, we heard from Express. Just waiting on 91 and Rebels now. (I'm referring to a 5th grader, not a 2025.) We just want to make a final decision and move on to getting excited.

Did Shore 2 Shore send invites to folks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When is 91 posting rosters? (Or is it a bad sign that we haven’t heard anything?) I missed the parent meeting at the end of camp. We’re new to this. Thanks for any help.

Express is out.

Funny for this age group. Were there alot of kids hoping to make B team? Anyone trying for A knew whether or not they were coming back. It's a $100 email.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Shore 2 Shore send invites to folks?

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When is 91 posting rosters? (Or is it a bad sign that we haven’t heard anything?) I missed the parent meeting at the end of camp. We’re new to this. Thanks for any help.

Express is out.

Funny for this age group. Were there alot of kids hoping to make B team? Anyone trying for A knew whether or not they were coming back. It's a $100 email.

$125

$125[/quote]

Could anyone please post the price for Express for the year? Just trying to compare to other programs for this age group. I realize Express, 91, Leg probably cost and also do more than some others. Just wondering how much more. Seems like most of the second tier programs are 2000-2500.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

$125

Could anyone please post the price for Express for the year? Just trying to compare to other programs for this age group. I realize Express, 91, Leg probably cost and also do more than some others. Just wondering how much more. Seems like most of the second tier programs are 2000-2500.[/quote]

Like most things, you pay for what you get. My advice, don’t compare costs, compare value by talking to the coach your son was invited to.

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Express

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Express B. S2S A is on the low end of A teams, but since nobody wants their feelings hurt we have AA and A programs. In reality S2S has a B and C program.

express b is much better than s2s b. they played multiple times and s2s b has never beat express b

Exp B undoubtedly. They are just as good as some of the low end "self proclaimed" A teams... And they added a few real good kids . Not sure what the other teams added

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Definitely Express

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Express has never fielded a true competitive b team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

$125

Could anyone please post the price for Express for the year? Just trying to compare to other programs for this age group. I realize Express, 91, Leg probably cost and also do more than some others. Just wondering how much more. Seems like most of the second tier programs are 2000-2500.

Like most things, you pay for what you get. My advice, don’t compare costs, compare value by talking to the coach your son was invited to.[/quote]

Big clubs are worth the money if you are the A team, waste of money if you are on the b or lower.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

$125

Could anyone please post the price for Express for the year? Just trying to compare to other programs for this age group. I realize Express, 91, Leg probably cost and also do more than some others. Just wondering how much more. Seems like most of the second tier programs are 2000-2500.

Like most things, you pay for what you get. My advice, don’t compare costs, compare value by talking to the coach your son was invited to.

Big clubs are worth the money if you are the A team, waste of money if you are on the b or lower.[/quote]

So is the opinion of an AA team parent or 2nd tier A team parent. Because I agree in part. Some 2nd teams of big clubs can be dicey, but some are great experiences and care about developing the players. So everyone just do your homework and and talk with parents on those B teams and more importantly talk with the coaches. If the coach doesn’t respond, there is your answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Express has never fielded a true competitive b team.

Really, that’s funny. 2023, 2024, 2026 for starters.

You will find out in the Fall...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Express has never fielded a true competitive b team.

Really, that’s funny. 2023, 2024, 2026 for starters.

Exactly, you just made my point!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better team s2s b or express b

Express has never fielded a true competitive b team.

Really, that’s funny. 2023, 2024, 2026 for starters.

Exactly, you just made my point!

With a roster of 35 kids especially and O'Reilly team.

Who has a better "B" team? Noone from what I see...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better "B" team? Noone from what I see...

As far as B teams go, none are great but Express has the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better "B" team? Noone from what I see...

As far as B teams go, none are great but Express has the best.

I think most will tell you to go to an A team that's really a B team instead - Hitmen, Recon, True Blue, etc. Even though teams a B level, owners typically care more about them than the bigger clubs.

People, it don’t matter who beat who. This team beat them. That team beat the other team, so there the best. Go where the best coach is. I can’t emphasis this enough. Look at the coach of all these teams. A team, B team, the letter doesn’t matter. If it’s a great coach, that cares, that’s committed, that will make your son better being coached by him. That’s the team to be on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better "B" team? Noone from what I see...

As far as B teams go, none are great but Express has the best.

Really? The 91 B team beat them multiple times last fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better "B" team? Noone from what I see...

As far as B teams go, none are great but Express has the best.

Really? The 91 B team beat them multiple times last fall.

Nope

We will see in Fall now that tryouts are over.... My $ is on Express..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People, it don’t matter who beat who. This team beat them. That team beat the other team, so there the best. Go where the best coach is. I can’t emphasis this enough. Look at the coach of all these teams. A team, B team, the letter doesn’t matter. If it’s a great coach, that cares, that’s committed, that will make your son better being coached by him. That’s the team to be on.

Coaching is important, but so is the skill level of the other players on the team. My advice, take your kid to a team where he is a solid player but not the best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People, it don’t matter who beat who. This team beat them. That team beat the other team, so there the best. Go where the best coach is. I can’t emphasis this enough. Look at the coach of all these teams. A team, B team, the letter doesn’t matter. If it’s a great coach, that cares, that’s committed, that will make your son better being coached by him. That’s the team to be on.

Yea, but what if they don’t have a car magnet decals, cool swag, and won the World Series. Isn’t that what’s most important?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People, it don’t matter who beat who. This team beat them. That team beat the other team, so there the best. Go where the best coach is. I can’t emphasis this enough. Look at the coach of all these teams. A team, B team, the letter doesn’t matter. If it’s a great coach, that cares, that’s committed, that will make your son better being coached by him. That’s the team to be on.

Yea, but what if they don’t have a car magnet decals, cool swag, and won the World Series. Isn’t that what’s most important?

Coaching and playing time are two main factors. Both 91 and Express have a consistent and experienced set of coaches.

Take your kid to a team where he is going to play

The coach can tell you all they want. Doesn’t always equate to what actually happens

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People, it don’t matter who beat who. This team beat them. That team beat the other team, so there the best. Go where the best coach is. I can’t emphasis this enough. Look at the coach of all these teams. A team, B team, the letter doesn’t matter. If it’s a great coach, that cares, that’s committed, that will make your son better being coached by him. That’s the team to be on.

Yea, but what if they don’t have a car magnet decals, cool swag, and won the World Series. Isn’t that what’s most important?

So sounds like your coach and team cant win. Probably because your coach does not coach well. Coaches who say rankings do not matter do not like accountability and lose. Better developed teams that play as a team win. Results matter sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People, it don’t matter who beat who. This team beat them. That team beat the other team, so there the best. Go where the best coach is. I can’t emphasis this enough. Look at the coach of all these teams. A team, B team, the letter doesn’t matter. If it’s a great coach, that cares, that’s committed, that will make your son better being coached by him. That’s the team to be on.

Yea, but what if they don’t have a car magnet decals, cool swag, and won the World Series. Isn’t that what’s most important?

So sounds like your coach and team cant win. Probably because your coach does not coach well. Coaches who say rankings do not matter do not like accountability and lose. Better developed teams that play as a team win. Results matter sorry.

It was sarcasm. Because we all don’t care about results and and prefer to lose.

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Igloo

S2S B has a higher ranking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Igloo

S2S B has a higher ranking

What ranking? Where are you seeing rankings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Igloo

S2S B has a higher ranking

What ranking? Where are you seeing rankings?

You apparently didn’t understand the sarcasm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Go with the time that you son will fit in the best and play.

Stop with the rankings Those are embarassing.... People drink it up tho. As for your question, Igloo B teamers were at every tryout this offseason so you may want to make sure its a good environment over there. The best B team is the one that develops your kid and plays him/her...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the rankings Those are embarassing.... People drink it up tho. As for your question, Igloo B teamers were at every tryout this offseason so you may want to make sure its a good environment over there. The best B team is the one that develops your kid and plays him/her...

Very true on all levels

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Igloo

S2S B has a higher ranking

What ranking? Where are you seeing rankings?

You apparently didn’t understand the sarcasm

LOL, you are correct, went straight over my head. I was a little slow this morning...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Go with the time that you son will fit in the best and play.

And one that is competitive.

Did 91 email players this year vs posting the Pinnies numbers?

91 practices has already begun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo B or s2s B ? Who has a better team?

Igloo

S2S B has a higher ranking

That's hysterical. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 91 email players this year vs posting the Pinnies numbers?

91 hasn’t sent out invites yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 91 email players this year vs posting the Pinnies numbers?

91 hasn’t sent out invites yet.

Really? It’s been a week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 91 email players this year vs posting the Pinnies numbers?

91 hasn’t sent out invites yet.

Really? It’s been a week.

They call first to get acceptance then sent out invites. If you have not heard move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 91 email players this year vs posting the Pinnies numbers?

91 hasn’t sent out invites yet.

Really? It’s been a week.

Yep……

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 91 email players this year vs posting the Pinnies numbers?

91 hasn’t sent out invites yet.

Really? It’s been a week.

Yep……

Calls and invites are out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 91 email players this year vs posting the Pinnies numbers?

91 hasn’t sent out invites yet.

Really? It’s been a week.

They call first to get acceptance then sent out invites. If you have not heard move on.

Good to know. Time to move on from this club.

So every club has been splashing social media about tryouts for the last several weeks. Would love to see just one club, hey invites have been sent, thanks for attending etc etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So every club has been splashing social media about tryouts for the last several weeks. Would love to see just one club, hey invites have been sent, thanks for attending etc etc.

That would take “class”

for some teams tryouts never end. If there is a kid out there they think is good, he can always jump on.

My question is how did the Roster sizes change? Is everyone carrying 30+? Which clubs have A & B teams? C Teams? Which teams have legit B teams? They are ringing the register folks!

Rebels Red hawks huge upgrade and great coaches

Great! Now they have 2 decent B teams!

Chrome is no B Team, Huge upgrade on that team too.

Ok Rebel Parent. That team got smoked by us and every other team at tournaments this past year. They couldnt beat anyone thats legit but did beat town teams..barley...See Garden City. Apparently that Rebels team returned all players except the few smart ones that left. They are a 1 trick pony and that trick fools nobody. Our kids took away their 1 play and it then became "abusive". Shiny helmets are so 2 years ago. Glorified B team at best

What ever team your sons on let rebels know and will play you any time anywhere, BIG MOUTH
3 Kids Left One due to Injury, One that was just not on that level and one gigantic nightmare of a parent.
Addition by subtraction, plus some Big time additions.

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Chrome is no B Team, Huge upgrade on that team too.

Let's hear the HUGE upgrade? The team didn't change. Glorified B team is exactly the correct term to describe Chrome.

We’re on Empire and surprisingly had a big turn out for tryouts. Kids are definitely excited about this team going forward. A lot of three village kids going there

Please stop There are no huge upgrades. Maybe a R U S H kid or 2 and they werent very good either. A leopard dont change their spots. They should have kept the kids and replaced the hippee looking guy that is too busy screaming at the refs all game and looking at his iPhone. That team will continue to be a B level team, if that. A few "B team" teams would wipe floor with them. Big Upgrades and all...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chrome is no B Team, Huge upgrade on that team too.

Let's hear the HUGE upgrade? The team didn't change. Glorified B team is exactly the correct term to describe Chrome.

Big additions!!! They will do there talking on the field. Rebels to the MOON!!

Stop Rebels parent. The only big addition is more red solo cups to celebrate that 1 goal per game...

"Do there talking..." I hope they play better than the parents spell...Its "Their" Maybe you need to add an education .... Just sayin...
-No Skin in the game

Rebels are very solid team. Added a few very good players. Let’s just see. Regulators only team that locked a rebel off and played zone. That will really attract college coaches. No team this age should play a zone that’s for College just To mix it up. College coaches look for kids that can take a kid on one v one. Scores really will not matter in next few years, but Rebels will be beating up some of you so called top dogs.

I dunno ..parity is how I see it. And remember, some kids are just hitting puberty. The kids that everyone THOUGHT were the good players the past 2 years will now become average and the kids that were "average" will now start to shine. The kids with the highest lacrosse IQ's will succeed as they will have caught up physically. The smart teams will have collected the kids like that. Print it.

Regulators beat the Rebels each time they played this past season. Whatever strategy they did, they won every game against them. I’m a fan of the team that wins and talks less.

Regulators has great coaching. They develop their players Almost zero turnover. They will continue to get better while other teams mentioned here will continue their downward spirals...

Not one game was more than 2 goal difference. If that’s domination than let’s go Regulaggers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are very solid team. Added a few very good players. Let’s just see. Regulators only team that locked a rebel off and played zone. That will really attract college coaches. No team this age should play a zone that’s for College just To mix it up. College coaches look for kids that can take a kid on one v one. Scores really will not matter in next few years, but Rebels will be beating up some of you so called top dogs.

College coaches! Hilarious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators beat the Rebels each time they played this past season. Whatever strategy they did, they won every game against them. I’m a fan of the team that wins and talks less.

Rebels beat the Regulators multiple times Fall and Spring....
Poster was pointing out that as you get to recruiting it isn't win at all costs (Zone, Lock Off)... its play your recruitable players and showcase them.

Rebels will be good this year, lets let them prove that on the field - no games will be won or lost on here.

Shore 2 Shore teams will really be struggling next year

After all the marketing we have seen from the Rebels organization over the last few weeks, why am I not surprised to see that nothing has changed with the Rebels culture, post tryouts.

They just can’t seem to break the cycle of recruiting and breeding aggressive meathead parents.

Why can’t these parents stop running their mouths and just prove it with their team’s performance?

If I was the director of Rebels, I would make it very clear for all my kids parents to shut it. And if I learned of anyone on my team boasting on this site, I’d kick their kid off the team and give their money back. Who in their right mind would want toxic parents ruining the Rebels culture.

S2s lost all top players, that’s why u stay away from them. Not a good program

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are very solid team. Added a few very good players. Let’s just see. Regulators only team that locked a rebel off and played zone. That will really attract college coaches. No team this age should play a zone that’s for College just To mix it up. College coaches look for kids that can take a kid on one v one. Scores really will not matter in next few years, but Rebels will be beating up some of you so called top dogs.

College coaches! Hilarious

Apparently all Rebels parents are dreamers !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After all the marketing we have seen from the Rebels organization over the last few weeks, why am I not surprised to see that nothing has changed with the Rebels culture, post tryouts.

They just can’t seem to break the cycle of recruiting and breeding aggressive meathead parents.

Why can’t these parents stop running their mouths and just prove it with their team’s performance?

If I was the director of Rebels, I would make it very clear for all my kids parents to shut it. And if I learned of anyone on my team boasting on this site, I’d kick their kid off the team and give their money back. Who in their right mind would want toxic parents ruining the Rebels culture.

Rebels culture is great, theres a few stunads posting on an anonymous message board. Probably the same 1 or 2. Dont judge a club by BOTC lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators beat the Rebels each time they played this past season. Whatever strategy they did, they won every game against them. I’m a fan of the team that wins and talks less.

Rebels beat the Regulators multiple times Fall and Spring....
Poster was pointing out that as you get to recruiting it isn't win at all costs (Zone, Lock Off)... its play your recruitable players and showcase them.

Rebels will be good this year, lets let them prove that on the field - no games will be won or lost on here.

I think i heard this on every thread about Rebels . Enough no one cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2s lost all top players, that’s why u stay away from them. Not a good program

Where did they go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2s lost all top players, that’s why u stay away from them. Not a good program

Where did they go?

Top S2S all left some to Rebs some elsewhere. Done at 2025

Any news on this GSB lacrosse? New club starting up.

WHO really cares ........ Good Luck to all this year , lets see how the showcases shake out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any news on this GSB lacrosse? New club starting up.

Just what LI needs…another club. I would prefer they start consolidating.

The Parents and Kids take their lead from the coaches. The coaching melts down and the kids melt down. Coaches complain to refs, kids complain to refs. Monkey see, red monkeys do.... and then the parents start acting up. Just a bad cycle. And once that starts, and it does every time from what I see and hear, the kids QUIT. You want to fix that program? Cure the headache by cutting off the head. Otherwise, same Ol'Rebels. Good luck!

S2S has no "top"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators beat the Rebels each time they played this past season. Whatever strategy they did, they won every game against them. I’m a fan of the team that wins and talks less.

Rebels beat the Regulators multiple times Fall and Spring....
Poster was pointing out that as you get to recruiting it isn't win at all costs (Zone, Lock Off)... its play your recruitable players and showcase them.

Rebels will be good this year, lets let them prove that on the field - no games will be won or lost on here.

I think i heard this on every thread about Rebels . Enough no one cares

That is the because the directors are trying to pump up the team so kids commit. Maybe they should spend more time following up on promises.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators beat the Rebels each time they played this past season. Whatever strategy they did, they won every game against them. I’m a fan of the team that wins and talks less.

Rebels beat the Regulators multiple times Fall and Spring....
Poster was pointing out that as you get to recruiting it isn't win at all costs (Zone, Lock Off)... its play your recruitable players and showcase them.

Rebels will be good this year, lets let them prove that on the field - no games will be won or lost on here.

I think i heard this on every thread about Rebels . Enough no one cares

That is the because the directors are trying to pump up the team so kids commit. Maybe they should spend more time following up on promises.

Agreed

Can’t we just let these teams be. They are solid teams, with some very good players. They’ll be fine, so what they are not somebody’s definition of “AA”. As long as they competing and developing as players and enjoying it, why knock them down? Because a few people make some boastful comments.

Your on the wrong board pal... This is about justly abusing the pretenders, wannabes, liars, posers and frauds.... Im not saying your not right...But this board is a reality check for all the people drowning in the Koolaide

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Red hawks huge upgrade and great coaches

Stop it. Looked awful a few weeks ago in Garden City against other B teams.

They are a C team moonlighting as a B. Just like the B team is moonlighting as an A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Red hawks huge upgrade and great coaches

Stop it. Looked awful a few weeks ago in Garden City against other B teams.

Cmon we know how these things work, new teams year in year out! Lets not all act like we know who got better and who got worse on these forums. Lets enjoy our one month off of august and see what these teams have in the fall

Did LI Express punish the parent that caused the Iroquois and other teams to walk out of WSYL U14 banquet? Did Jake start an investigation with OJ's help to get to the bottom of this? Asking for a friend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did LI Express punish the parent that caused the Iroquois and other teams to walk out of WSYL U14 banquet? Did Jake start an investigation with OJ's help to get to the bottom of this? Asking for a friend.

That league is a disgrace and will always carry that stain

Omg. Y’all know these are kids playing lacrosse right? Perhaps need to get a hobby of your own or perhaps find out why you are so heavily invested in what every boys lax program in LI is doing

Sooo 5 weeks ago. Lets talk about the improvements the Chanster made this tryout season! And leave jake alone. Enjoy the T shirt and buy some protein Shakes, would ya!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did LI Express punish the parent that caused the Iroquois and other teams to walk out of WSYL U14 banquet? Did Jake start an investigation with OJ's help to get to the bottom of this? Asking for a friend.

I doubt you have many friends. Why do you care? Are you part of the Iroquois organization?

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

91B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did LI Express punish the parent that caused the Iroquois and other teams to walk out of WSYL U14 banquet? Did Jake start an investigation with OJ's help to get to the bottom of this? Asking for a friend.

I doubt you have many friends. Why do you care? Are you part of the Iroquois organization?

Everybody knows they did nothing. And I think people should care. Lacrosse should be about community and it would be nice if one of the largest (if not the largest) club in this community addressed the situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

Rebels B has phenomenal coaches, really good guys. I dont think FLG has 2 teams, be surprised if they have 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

Rebels B has phenomenal coaches, really good guys. I dont think FLG has 2 teams, be surprised if they have 1.

Did Rebels B even win a game last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

I think it depends on what your son is looking to get from the experience and which team he’ll have the best chance of being in the field.

I’d be a little leary of both Rebels and FLG as statements have been made prior. So without knowing much about your sons situation, I’d say 91 by default

They won 1 game I know of at a local tourney but the complaint was they brought down an "A" team kid and he went off. So the answer is no. They didnt win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

If you live somewhat east, I would say Rebels B or Empire

Look at all the team’s record last season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

91B

91B - they won some tournaments last year and have some good players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the team’s record last season

Records are all relative to everything else.
Also tryouts just happened, teams have changed a lot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the team’s record last season

Look like FLG is 275, 91 Hornets is 276 and Rebels Red Hawks 422. Go with team the he will play and progress the most. Plus make sure you can traveling to easliy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the team’s record last season

Look like FLG is 275, 91 Hornets is 276 and Rebels Red Hawks 422. Go with team the he will play and progress the most. Plus make sure you can traveling to easliy.

I would stay away from FLG, especially FLG B. I can’t imagine them having enough players for a second team.

SO then the question is: Would you rather have vomit or throw-up?

Oh just like channey teams…..what a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

91B

91B - they won some tournaments last year and have some good players.

They only play in my lacrosse tourneys so they can control the schedule. FLG has the best coaching and will commit to making your son the best he can be. They have only one team and all their teams by senior year end being very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

91B

91B - they won some tournaments last year and have some good players.

They only play in my lacrosse tourneys so they can control the schedule. FLG has the best coaching and will commit to making your son the best he can be. They have only one team and all their teams by senior year end being very good.

My son had friends who played on both teams last year. 91 B had a consistent practice schedule and participated in many tournaments. The same could not be said for FLG.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HELP - I don't know much about the club world. My son tried out for 91 B, Rebels B & FLG B and made all 3. He is truly undecided. Where will he have the best overall experience and why?

91B

91B - they won some tournaments last year and have some good players.

They only play in my lacrosse tourneys so they can control the schedule. FLG has the best coaching and will commit to making your son the best he can be. They have only one team and all their teams by senior year end being very good.

My son had friends who played on both teams last year. 91 B had a consistent practice schedule and participated in many tournaments. The same could not be said for FLG.

Lol, your “sons friends”?

Do teams really get better. I don’t think so…I believe players get better and that’s how teams improve, more so B than A. The top teams improve by bringing in out of state kids and the B teams improve by getting athletes that develop. The B teams also decline generally because they are not competitive and/or the coaches do the minimum. So was can stop saying who got better, just be concerned your team didn’t get worse, which is definitely the case for a few B teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do teams really get better. I don’t think so…I believe players get better and that’s how teams improve, more so B than A. The top teams improve by bringing in out of state kids and the B teams improve by getting athletes that develop. The B teams also decline generally because they are not competitive and/or the coaches do the minimum. So was can stop saying who got better, just be concerned your team didn’t get worse, which is definitely the case for a few B teams.

You are pretty correct on the points-raised about. B teams are difficult to keep together, to get year over year improvement because there are a handful of kids on each team striving to get on an A team and chase the shiny new opportunity at tryouts every year, at least on Long Island. Kids think they are better than they are and parents don’t see the real situation. Facts:

12.5 scholarships max per Div 1 team. Now distributed over 50+ kids due to COVID-19 holdbacks.

Long Island can’t be considered the hotbed anymore. Look at every top 25 div 1 roster. Used to be at least half were from LI. Now maybe 1/4 is typical. Going to get even smaller as programs develop in TX, FL, CA.

Unless your son hasn’t hit puberty, and is a skilled player with speed, breaking into the top teams is a massive long shot. So be careful with the sales pitch from new programs, offering a B team spot with a look next year for the A team.

B team kids do play in college, on a D3 team. Great lacrosse, just different size, speed, commitment.

Has anyone seen the video? The only one that surfaced shoes the parent in question who I heard was a teacher being extremely nice and explaining the situation about the table to the Iroquois moms who are not irate ( definitely didn’t seem they were insulted like it was stated) as the video goes on they seem to be antagonizing the express parent calling her Karen which actually upsets the last as she is trying to be nice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone seen the video? The only one that surfaced shoes the parent in question who I heard was a teacher being extremely nice and explaining the situation about the table to the Iroquois moms who are not irate ( definitely didn’t seem they were insulted like it was stated) as the video goes on they seem to be antagonizing the express parent calling her Karen which actually upsets the last as she is trying to be nice.

Stop it. Everyone knows what she said about those kids to start the whole thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone seen the video? The only one that surfaced shoes the parent in question who I heard was a teacher being extremely nice and explaining the situation about the table to the Iroquois moms who are not irate ( definitely didn’t seem they were insulted like it was stated) as the video goes on they seem to be antagonizing the express parent calling her Karen which actually upsets the last as she is trying to be nice.

Stop it. Everyone knows what she said about those kids to start the whole thing.

This is still being talked about?!?!
Yes, there was a video out there that captures part of the story. People have been on here explaining other parts of the story that weren’t in the video.
If what the video shows is the majority of the story, then that woman needs to live with herself and be ridiculed by everyone that knows her because of how she acted.

Move on. End of story

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do teams really get better. I don’t think so…I believe players get better and that’s how teams improve, more so B than A. The top teams improve by bringing in out of state kids and the B teams improve by getting athletes that develop. The B teams also decline generally because they are not competitive and/or the coaches do the minimum. So was can stop saying who got better, just be concerned your team didn’t get worse, which is definitely the case for a few B teams.

You are pretty correct on the points-raised about. B teams are difficult to keep together, to get year over year improvement because there are a handful of kids on each team striving to get on an A team and chase the shiny new opportunity at tryouts every year, at least on Long Island. Kids think they are better than they are and parents don’t see the real situation. Facts:

12.5 scholarships max per Div 1 team. Now distributed over 50+ kids due to COVID-19 holdbacks.

Long Island can’t be considered the hotbed anymore. Look at every top 25 div 1 roster. Used to be at least half were from LI. Now maybe 1/4 is typical. Going to get even smaller as programs develop in TX, FL, CA.

Unless your son hasn’t hit puberty, and is a skilled player with speed, breaking into the top teams is a massive long shot. So be careful with the sales pitch from new programs, offering a B team spot with a look next year for the A team.

B team kids do play in college, on a D3 team. Great lacrosse, just different size, speed, commitment.

B team kids play at all level of. College (D1, D2, D3 and club) the same is true for A team players. Now very few B team kids make it to D1 but some do. If you are just talking about the big clubs B teams. Then it’s true Most if any at all will play D 1. If you are taking about B teams in general such as Rebels, FLG, Hitmen. Then this is false. Just looking at the 2022 class. Flg has 5 D1 commits with the possibility of another 1 or 2. Rebels have about 5 Hitmen 1. These numbers are not great but you still have a chance. Many B team kids leave entering their Junior year and join recruiting teams such as 365 lax, LI sting. And I saw another team this year south shore elite. These teams produce D1 player also. Not as many as 91 or Express but there are other avenues to take to college other han the big club route
Every player is different and they grow and
Develop at different rates. If you want it don’t give up. Don’t believe that 91 and Exprees are the only way to go.
I do agree as the game grows in other areas of the country things will be harder foe LI lax kids. Minnesota is another area that is expanding and producing good talent

If you’re still deciding I would say the best B teams on LI are below. And they are B because the brackets they played in the last year.

In no specific order the 5 best B teams are:

True Blue
FLG
Express
91
Turtles

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do teams really get better. I don’t think so…I believe players get better and that’s how teams improve, more so B than A. The top teams improve by bringing in out of state kids and the B teams improve by getting athletes that develop. The B teams also decline generally because they are not competitive and/or the coaches do the minimum. So was can stop saying who got better, just be concerned your team didn’t get worse, which is definitely the case for a few B teams.

You are pretty correct on the points-raised about. B teams are difficult to keep together, to get year over year improvement because there are a handful of kids on each team striving to get on an A team and chase the shiny new opportunity at tryouts every year, at least on Long Island. Kids think they are better than they are and parents don’t see the real situation. Facts:

12.5 scholarships max per Div 1 team. Now distributed over 50+ kids due to COVID-19 holdbacks.

Long Island can’t be considered the hotbed anymore. Look at every top 25 div 1 roster. Used to be at least half were from LI. Now maybe 1/4 is typical. Going to get even smaller as programs develop in TX, FL, CA.

Unless your son hasn’t hit puberty, and is a skilled player with speed, breaking into the top teams is a massive long shot. So be careful with the sales pitch from new programs, offering a B team spot with a look next year for the A team.

B team kids do play in college, on a D3 team. Great lacrosse, just different size, speed, commitment.

B team kids play at all level of. College (D1, D2, D3 and club) the same is true for A team players. Now very few B team kids make it to D1 but some do. If you are just talking about the big clubs B teams. Then it’s true Most if any at all will play D 1. If you are taking about B teams in general such as Rebels, FLG, Hitmen. Then this is false. Just looking at the 2022 class. Flg has 5 D1 commits with the possibility of another 1 or 2. Rebels have about 5 Hitmen 1. These numbers are not great but you still have a chance. Many B team kids leave entering their Junior year and join recruiting teams such as 365 lax, LI sting. And I saw another team this year south shore elite. These teams produce D1 player also. Not as many as 91 or Express but there are other avenues to take to college other han the big club route
Every player is different and they grow and
Develop at different rates. If you want it don’t give up. Don’t believe that 91 and Exprees are the only way to go.
I do agree as the game grows in other areas of the country things will be harder foe LI lax kids. Minnesota is another area that is expanding and producing good talent

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I agree and definitely wasn’t advocating that Express or 91 is the only way to go, just the opposite. And yes, a motivated kid who is playing for the right teams can and does excel if they build size speed and skill. Need all 3 now. My point was more toward the reality of the situation in the future. So much competition for fewer spots at the college level and it will get tougher each year. Don’t drink the cool aid and think club lax is an investment toward a ticket to better outcome at the D1 level.

Its all about development Remember, these kids are just hitting 9th grade. The game & the landscape changes for them now. The problem is that teh majority of these teams dont develop players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do teams really get better. I don’t think so…I believe players get better and that’s how teams improve, more so B than A. The top teams improve by bringing in out of state kids and the B teams improve by getting athletes that develop. The B teams also decline generally because they are not competitive and/or the coaches do the minimum. So was can stop saying who got better, just be concerned your team didn’t get worse, which is definitely the case for a few B teams.

You are pretty correct on the points-raised about. B teams are difficult to keep together, to get year over year improvement because there are a handful of kids on each team striving to get on an A team and chase the shiny new opportunity at tryouts every year, at least on Long Island. Kids think they are better than they are and parents don’t see the real situation. Facts:

12.5 scholarships max per Div 1 team. Now distributed over 50+ kids due to COVID-19 holdbacks.

Long Island can’t be considered the hotbed anymore. Look at every top 25 div 1 roster. Used to be at least half were from LI. Now maybe 1/4 is typical. Going to get even smaller as programs develop in TX, FL, CA.

Unless your son hasn’t hit puberty, and is a skilled player with speed, breaking into the top teams is a massive long shot. So be careful with the sales pitch from new programs, offering a B team spot with a look next year for the A team.

B team kids do play in college, on a D3 team. Great lacrosse, just different size, speed, commitment.

Sir or Ma'am, I'm going to have to ask you to leave this forum. Your post makes way too much sense.

More importantly, lets discuss these A & B teams and the amount of kids they are carrying..I heard the "A" teams are carrying 30+ in many cases? How can that be true? What about B teams? They carry that many kids too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More importantly, lets discuss these A & B teams and the amount of kids they are carrying..I heard the "A" teams are carrying 30+ in many cases? How can that be true? What about B teams? They carry that many kids too?

It can be true because people let it be true. As long as people are willing to pay to be one of 30 or more, clubs will continue to keep big rosters. Can’t get quality playing time with a roster that large. I don’t understand why people would want to sign up for that…..and it isn’t just Express that does it anymore. There is no viable reason to keep more than 22-24 as the absolute most on a roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More importantly, lets discuss these A & B teams and the amount of kids they are carrying..I heard the "A" teams are carrying 30+ in many cases? How can that be true? What about B teams? They carry that many kids too?

It can be true because people let it be true. As long as people are willing to pay to be one of 30 or more, clubs will continue to keep big rosters. Can’t get quality playing time with a roster that large. I don’t understand why people would want to sign up for that…..and it isn’t just Express that does it anymore. There is no viable reason to keep more than 22-24 as the absolute most on a roster.

I think most B teams have that 22-24 number. It’s the A teams. And I don’t blame the clubs. It’s the parents that have gone to multi day tourneys this summer and saw their kid play less than 5 minutes?

22-24 is good. Why wouldnt any of those "A" teamers standing around just play B? Does it really make a difference? Just sayin...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

22-24 is good. Why wouldnt any of those "A" teamers standing around just play B? Does it really make a difference? Just sayin...

Parents take the blow to their ego

Originally Posted by Anonymous

22-24 is good. Why wouldnt any of those "A" teamers standing around just play B? Does it really make a difference? Just sayin...

Parents take the blow to their ego

Can’t explain it, but it is the parents making a really poor decision for their son, imho. Lax intervention time, if your son doesn’t play, other than blowouts, he wouldn’t have made the team. Move on. Go to a team and be a top player, who cares if that team will never beat 91, Express or Igloo.

Coaches and directors know how to sell. They know the magic words parents want to hear. We will play in all the college recruiting tournaments. We will showcase our team in front of college scouts. We have connections to all the D1 schools. It’s funny stuff. Parents hear this from these salesman, that’s what they are, they start drooling. Parents are afraid to miss out on this. They know coaches don’t care about their kid, only their tuition, yet the phrase D1 college showcase makes people silly. I agree with you, it’s crazy. That’s the explanation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches and directors know how to sell. They know the magic words parents want to hear. We will play in all the college recruiting tournaments. We will showcase our team in front of college scouts. We have connections to all the D1 schools. It’s funny stuff. Parents hear this from these salesman, that’s what they are, they start drooling. Parents are afraid to miss out on this. They know coaches don’t care about their kid, only their tuition, yet the phrase D1 college showcase makes people silly. I agree with you, it’s crazy. That’s the explanation.

Yes, this is all true for the top 1/3 of the team. The rest will learn that not playing is going lessen their sons chances of being recruited. Go be the best player on a lesser team and your son will stand out more and will get more looks.

Reading these posts about Scholarships and being recruited is hilarious. Do you folks think colleges hands out Div 1 NCAA football scholarships to Lax players? If that's your hope, then start saving your $ now becasue these directors have you all jacked up. The amount you spend on showcases, travel, lodging, travel etc...you could pay for 2 educations and just buy the University T shirt for $24 online...

Find a team where it is fun, the coaches are good people and your kid develops and plays. Take A team, B team, Scholarships and showcases out of the equation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reading these posts about Scholarships and being recruited is hilarious. Do you folks think colleges hands out Div 1 NCAA football scholarships to Lax players? If that's your hope, then start saving your $ now becasue these directors have you all jacked up. The amount you spend on showcases, travel, lodging, travel etc...you could pay for 2 educations and just buy the University T shirt for $24 online...

Find a team where it is fun, the coaches are good people and your kid develops and plays. Take A team, B team, Scholarships and showcases out of the equation.

But, but my son has so many championship T-shirts? lol

SUPPLEMENTAL TRYOUT SEASON IS HERE!!!! Gert your checkbooks out. S2S is looking for "Elite" players and Forcegloo is having a tryout for their very own "WSYL Team" . Im sure they all do it. Have supplementals so they can pack their rosters. Its like a race to see who can add the most kids. Delta is coming & so are teh holidays! ...need to make bank before they get here. LAX ON!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUPPLEMENTAL TRYOUT SEASON IS HERE!!!! Gert your checkbooks out. S2S is looking for "Elite" players and Forcegloo is having a tryout for their very own "WSYL Team" . Im sure they all do it. Have supplementals so they can pack their rosters. Its like a race to see who can add the most kids. Delta is coming & so are teh holidays! ...need to make bank before they get here. LAX ON!

Elite=any players willing to pay tuition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who has a better "B" team? Noone from what I see...

As far as B teams go, none are great but Express has the best.

I think most will tell you to go to an A team that's really a B team instead - Hitmen, Recon, True Blue, etc. Even though teams a B level, owners typically care more about them than the bigger clubs.

24, Empire, Turtles.....there are a lot of these teams that are better than a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you’re still deciding I would say the best B teams on LI are below. And they are B because the brackets they played in the last year.

In no specific order the 5 best B teams are:

True Blue
FLG
Express
91
Turtles

FLG 2025 isn't very good. They got destroyed at one tournament we were at this summer.

24 is a small program but the 2025 team is decent. I'd add them. Affordable program too.

Empire over FLG too. Good coaching at the 2025 level.

Heard Turtles lost some kids and is basically Smithtown-only now.

What about Express and 91?

What happened at S2S heard they are offering free tuition to 2025 players. Is this true?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at S2S heard they are offering free tuition to 2025 players. Is this true?

Who knows what’s true. However Any club that is offering supplemental tryouts means in my opinion that players declined the invite and they are scrambling. But didn’t see one S2S helmet at my sons tryouts. Saw a lot of ransoms and like 10 Igloo lids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at S2S heard they are offering free tuition to 2025 players. Is this true?

Who knows what’s true. However Any club that is offering supplemental tryouts means in my opinion that players declined the invite and they are scrambling. But didn’t see one S2S helmet at my sons tryouts. Saw a lot of ransoms and like 10 Igloo lids.

What mystery club does your son currently play for? A team B team? Seriously why come on here and give half a story? Why, because it's usually not true and you're just trying to tear down Igloo or secure your own spot, perhaps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at S2S heard they are offering free tuition to 2025 players. Is this true?

Who knows what’s true. However Any club that is offering supplemental tryouts means in my opinion that players declined the invite and they are scrambling. But didn’t see one S2S helmet at my sons tryouts. Saw a lot of ransoms and like 10 Igloo lids.

Random helmets can be a result of kids trying out without showing which club they’re coming from. My son doesn’t wear his club helmet unless he is at game/practice for that team. Anything else (including tryouts), he’s wearing his town/school helmet.

S2S used to have 3 2025 teams at one point. They were B1, B2 and B3. Now it seems like they be lucky if they can field one B team. Buyer beware if they're trying to fill multiple roster spots with a supplemental tryout. It's mid August so if someone is still looking for a spot on a team there's probably a good reason for it.

S2S A players all went to Rebels.

Lots of kids are starting to reclassify. It’s going to be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2S A players all went to Rebels.

Total crock. I can personally attest that this is not true. Rebels may have the most active propaganda department in the industry but the fact remains, Rebels A is not a real Long Island competitive A (Express, 91) team and their B team is just another money grab.

S2S Went to Rebels? Out of the kettle and into the fire. Good luck with that. Now they have 30 kids like everyone else.

Red Helmets are a glorified B team at best Directors sell parents magic beans and they choke on them. Year after year. Not a legit A club. Doesnt Blatant sell clothing too? Hope their clothing is better than their A team (really a B)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2S A players all went to Rebels.

Total crock. I can personally attest that this is not true. Rebels may have the most active propaganda department in the industry but the fact remains, Rebels A is not a real Long Island competitive A (Express, 91) team and their B team is just another money grab.

I think it’s hilarious that people are still putting Express at the same level as 91. Not even close, express in this grade is not even in the top 3 on LI.

S2S never had any A players to lose

Then they will fit in Nicely with their program!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they will fit in Nicely with their program!

2 S2S A Players went to Rebels A (Their best 2 players), the others that left went to Rebels B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Red Helmets are a glorified B team at best Directors sell parents magic beans and they choke on them. Year after year. Not a legit A club. Doesn't Blatant sell clothing too? Hope their clothing is better than their A team (really a B)

Did you see what they got for the World Series lol. Brand new helmets, uniforms, apparel, hats, etc. All for free. What does it mean to hope they get better apparel lol?
26 kids on the team are fine with me as a parent.

So they all went to B teams, just like the team they came from. Just wanted to make sure.

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

Who cares, move on and leave the rebels alone

MB works 15 hours a day 7 days a week. He’s not posting. One of the all time greats as a person. Thanks for everything Mike

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Red Helmets are a glorified B team at best Directors sell parents magic beans and they choke on them. Year after year. Not a legit A club. Doesn't Blatant sell clothing too? Hope their clothing is better than their A team (really a B)

Did you see what they got for the World Series lol. Brand new helmets, uniforms, apparel, hats, etc. All for free. What does it mean to hope they get better apparel lol?
26 kids on the team are fine with me as a parent.

Really cute that you think they gave this gear for free.
Charging $4k+ across all teams/ages….you paid for it. You just had some help from other parents to pay for it.
And next season, you’ll be paying for someone else’s kid to get the new gear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Red Helmets are a glorified B team at best Directors sell parents magic beans and they choke on them. Year after year. Not a legit A club. Doesn't Blatant sell clothing too? Hope their clothing is better than their A team (really a B)

Did you see what they got for the World Series lol. Brand new helmets, uniforms, apparel, hats, etc. All for free. What does it mean to hope they get better apparel lol?
26 kids on the team are fine with me as a parent.

Really cute that you think they gave this gear for free.
Charging $4k+ across all teams/ages….you paid for it. You just had some help from other parents to pay for it.
And next season, you’ll be paying for someone else’s kid to get the new gear

If they practice a lot then got no beef. Teams that pracrice a lot with good coaches win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Red Helmets are a glorified B team at best Directors sell parents magic beans and they choke on them. Year after year. Not a legit A club. Doesn't Blatant sell clothing too? Hope their clothing is better than their A team (really a B)

Did you see what they got for the World Series lol. Brand new helmets, uniforms, apparel, hats, etc. All for free. What does it mean to hope they get better apparel lol?
26 kids on the team are fine with me as a parent.

Really cute that you think they gave this gear for free.
Charging $4k+ across all teams/ages….you paid for it. You just had some help from other parents to pay for it.
And next season, you’ll be paying for someone else’s kid to get the new gear

Rebels, the socialist team of the lax world.
Thats why they wear commie red! I love this board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MB works 15 hours a day 7 days a week. He’s not posting. One of the all time greats as a person. Thanks for everything Mike

I laugh how at all the clubs get bashed for trying to run a business. And it’s usually the best clubs that get bashed. I guess they should just be free… They have the right to charge what ever they want. Consumer choice, you don’t like the price, you have plenty of options. If you pick a club based on cost you should stick with summer school team.

What about teams that practice A LOT and still dont win? Whats that mean?

Rebels isnt a bad program and everyone has a different experience. MB does a nice job as does the majority of the organization. Most grade levels seem to be competitive. It is just this one grade level that seems to be flawed.

Unfortunately everyone is letting this one team reflect the entire organization, which isnt fair. But their communication, # of practices, tournaments, etc is more than most so you cant gripe about that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about teams that practice A LOT and still dont win? Whats that mean?

That is not a good sign.

GCB, anybody attend their tryouts? Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MB works 15 hours a day 7 days a week. He’s not posting. One of the all time greats as a person. Thanks for everything Mike

I laugh how at all the clubs get bashed for trying to run a business. And it’s usually the best clubs that get bashed. I guess they should just be free… They have the right to charge what ever they want. Consumer choice, you don’t like the price, you have plenty of options. If you pick a club based on cost you should stick with summer school team.

The amount of Rebels bashing (and promoting) on these threads reminds me of 91 a few years ago. They were the up and coming club doing things right and the people on the inside loved it, the people on the outside had spiteful rage against 91. If that’s any sign of what’s to come then keep doing what you’re doing MB.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Bingo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about teams that practice A LOT and still dont win? Whats that mean?

That is not a good sign.

Means the team isn’t working hard enough on non practice days.

I was wondering the same thing.

Did they get a good turnout - are they going to field a decent team? Conner Farrell is a good guy but can he build a competitive team?

Are there any teams on the North Fork or at least near Riverhead? My son wants to play travel for the first time but it seems like most of the teams are so far west.

Maybe, East end Elite or Empire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

https://www.USCL.com/rank?v=1025&alpha=N&y=2020
63rd, close enough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

Just talking the WSYL.

The went 3-2 in pool play (Including OT loss to BBL) and played in the 9/10 seeded game. Nothing about other tourneys or games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

Just talking the WSYL.

The went 3-2 in pool play (Including OT loss to BBL) and played in the 9/10 seeded game. Nothing about other tourneys or games.

Honestly, I don’t want to make fun of Rebels, but stuff like this is why people make fun of them. They had an OK performance at WSYL - finished in the middle of their bracket, didn’t make it out of pool play and then got their butts kicked in their consolation game - nothing wrong with that. Probably a better performance than most thought they would have considering the fact that they didn’t actually qualify for the tournament.

But to pretend there was some kind of ranking system in the consolation bracket that deemed them “#10 in the world” is absolutely ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

Just talking the WSYL.

The went 3-2 in pool play (Including OT loss to BBL) and played in the 9/10 seeded game. Nothing about other tourneys or games.

OK Rebel parent. You're ranked 63rd, enough said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

Just talking the WSYL.

The went 3-2 in pool play (Including OT loss to BBL) and played in the 9/10 seeded game. Nothing about other tourneys or games.

Honestly, I don’t want to make fun of Rebels, but stuff like this is why people make fun of them. They had an OK performance at WSYL - finished in the middle of their bracket, didn’t make it out of pool play and then got their butts kicked in their consolation game - nothing wrong with that. Probably a better performance than most thought they would have considering the fact that they didn’t actually qualify for the tournament.

But to pretend there was some kind of ranking system in the consolation bracket that deemed them “#10 in the world” is absolutely ridiculous.

That is just how WSYL laid out the games.

Took teams with the 2 best records that didnt advance and played in the 9/10 game, then the next in the 11/12 game... thats how tournaments work that finalize seeding.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any teams on the North Fork or at least near Riverhead? My son wants to play travel for the first time but it seems like most of the teams are so far west.

Epic Jokers, run by John Amato , HC of Mattituck HS Lacrosse. He is a great guy and coach. If we weren't so far away my son would be playing for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

Just talking the WSYL.

The went 3-2 in pool play (Including OT loss to BBL) and played in the 9/10 seeded game. Nothing about other tourneys or games.

Honestly, I don’t want to make fun of Rebels, but stuff like this is why people make fun of them. They had an OK performance at WSYL - finished in the middle of their bracket, didn’t make it out of pool play and then got their butts kicked in their consolation game - nothing wrong with that. Probably a better performance than most thought they would have considering the fact that they didn’t actually qualify for the tournament.

But to pretend there was some kind of ranking system in the consolation bracket that deemed them “#10 in the world” is absolutely ridiculous.

How many kids for the 2024's (age eligible of course) played with them at the WSYL that do not play with them now. Also, was the only reason they were in the WSYL because the team for Canada could not come due to Covid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant is Ran by 2 Young Men not even 30 yet. They employee over 18 people full time. They also run tourneys and the LI Rebels.
Sounds good to me. The 2025 did add few very good players and will compete with all.
Have a Great weekend

Ok thanks MB. According to you any press is good press. You'll prove everyone wrong just like you did at qualifiers, Not, and at DC, again not. Rebels are the not quite A team. Accept the fact that they are probably outside of the top 10, and that's just on LI.

They finished at DC with the #10 rank in the world… but aren’t #10 on Long Island. Quick math!

Can you please share where Rebels was ever ranked “#10 in the world”? It’s a fine club and if parents and players are happy that’s great, but to say they were ranked #10 in the world is absurd.

Just talking the WSYL.

The went 3-2 in pool play (Including OT loss to BBL) and played in the 9/10 seeded game. Nothing about other tourneys or games.

OK Rebel parent. You're ranked 63rd, enough said.

No Rebel parent coming on here saying that the team is great. It's all Blatant employees. This is a BUSINESS. They have a staff of Marketing people. $3400 per kid --- but they also provide gear worth $200 and $3200 of "great communication" we hear so much about.

Mike Brennan is a good guy/ coach and set up a successful program. Has a great mix of coaches at this age and brings in some talented kids that the other teams covet. They do a great job getting their players into showcases. Recruiting side not as established as some of the other programs. They also inherited all the castoffs from the other programs when they launched which account for most of these posts.

Lol sounds like someone with a gripe (cut from team maybe?) … answer will always be “no I moved on to a different team” I’m sure the rebels marketing department are spending their time on here…. I’m sure it’s the first topic at their meetings “what should we post on back of the cage today?!” With that math maybe they should hire you to do their next budget!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is just how WSYL laid out the games.

Took teams with the 2 best records that didnt advance and played in the 9/10 game, then the next in the 11/12 game... thats how tournaments work that finalize seeding.

Some tournaments do that, but not this one. The teams were not ranked outside of their original brackets. Consolation games were simply bracket vs bracket - #3 in A vs #3 in B; #3 in C vs #3 in D and on down. I took a peek at your record and with 40 goals against Rebels certainly was not in the top 2 of the bracket 3rd place teams. If there actually had been a #9 vs #10 game Rebels wouldn’t have been in it.

Time to let go of the “#10 in the world” silliness. Rebels had a mid-level WSYL performance, that’s fine. They did not acquire a “world ranking” for that performance.

They may have been ranked #10 of all the B teams on Long Island

Enough with Rebels already. We shall see who improved in a few weeks. But bashing the guy by name isnt cool. And again, the overall program should get a good review as a whole. It is just the 25's that dont measure up and that is by no means MBs fault. He should look at the coaching and some of the parents if he wants to fix that situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any teams on the North Fork or at least near Riverhead? My son wants to play travel for the first time but it seems like most of the teams are so far west.

Epic Jokers, run by John Amato , HC of Mattituck HS Lacrosse. He is a great guy and coach. If we weren't so far away my son would be playing for him.

Good program with some 2025 kids who could be playing for better teams (I assume geography keeps that from happening). We've played and see them at several local tournaments over the past 2-3 years.

Only thing I will warn you against is the trashy, awful parents and it's not just a few of them. They berate opposing players and coaches. Blame refs (they scream at them from horn to horn) when they lose and just act like pure trash. Literally the worst parents I've ever encountered in travel lacrosse. Even their sons tell them to stop during games but they don't. It has to be embarrassing. That may just be the 2025 group though. I don't know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mike Brennan is a good guy/ coach and set up a successful program. Has a great mix of coaches at this age and brings in some talented kids that the other teams covet. They do a great job getting their players into showcases. Recruiting side not as established as some of the other programs. They also inherited all the castoffs from the other programs when they launched which account for most of these posts.

My son has played some showcases and been at camps with some of the Jokers kids. He says they are good kids even if their parents can be tough to handle on the sideline sometimes.

i saw some joker helmets at empire tryouts. i guess some are thinking about leaving

i think a lot of kids still undecided and are attending multiple tryouts. The initial round of tryouts was much earlier than previous years and many kids were away. The amount of information out there is mind numbing and the directors are just feeding you the company line. I'm exhausted just going through it. I didn't expect to see much movement this year but every tryout has over 50 kids. The top 10 on each team are probably locked in, after that who knows.

rosters are already filled and there is some scrambling by players who got punked by current organiztions. Why else would you leave? Who knows how it shakes out. My guess is same as last year: 91 and Exp rule the roost. Everyone else just collecting $

I keep checking the 91 site for tryout results. Anyone know when they will be posted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep checking the 91 site for tryout results. Anyone know when they will be posted?

I think those invites have been out for weeks. I hope you’re not waiting for your sons pinnie number to be posted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep checking the 91 site for tryout results. Anyone know when they will be posted?

Not sure why they haven’t posted, but invites for their A team went out a while ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep checking the 91 site for tryout results. Anyone know when they will be posted?

Tryouts were weeks ago. If your son made it, they’d be asking for money already. Sorry for the bad news.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep checking the 91 site for tryout results. Anyone know when they will be posted?

Tryouts were weeks ago. If your son made it, they’d be asking for money already. Sorry for the bad news.

That stinks that they didn’t reach out, thank everyone for their participation and let them know the roster has been set.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep checking the 91 site for tryout results. Anyone know when they will be posted?

Tryouts were weeks ago. If your son made it, they’d be asking for money already. Sorry for the bad news.

That stinks that they didn’t reach out, thank everyone for their participation and let them know the roster has been set.

Not very classy !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

rosters are already filled and there is some scrambling by players who got punked by current organiztions. Why else would you leave? Who knows how it shakes out. My guess is same as last year: 91 and Exp rule the roost. Everyone else just collecting $

Express? Really?

Really. They have been the most consistent program in the group over the past 4 years. Both their A & B teams. They had a down year by their standards but now that their kids hit their growth spurts you will see them return to form. Who out there is better than them on LI, other than 91? The Turtles? Shore? Igloo? Nope....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

rosters are already filled and there is some scrambling by players who got punked by current organiztions. Why else would you leave? Who knows how it shakes out. My guess is same as last year: 91 and Exp rule the roost. Everyone else just collecting $

Express? Really?

On LI, yes really. 91 #1, Express #2, after that big drop off of pretenders and haters. I don't want to hear about Igloo, Rebels or anyone else, until you've actually won something. They are not in the same conversation.

Rebels? Have they ever beaten Exp? Have they even been competitive with them? I dont think so. Heck, who have they beaten ? Igloo is a step up from Rebels but still not an Exp caliber team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels? Have they ever beaten Exp? Have they even been competitive with them? I dont think so. Heck, who have they beaten ? Igloo is a step up from Rebels but still not an Exp caliber team

Like the first guy said. 91 and Express than everyone else. The pluses and minuses for all the other clubs year won't change that.

Even with the B teams. Their "B" teams are better than everyone elses. Its the Organizations...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Even with the B teams. Their "B" teams are better than everyone elses. Its the Organizations...

It all comes down how much time the coaches will commit to the team. For B teams m, paid coaches do the minimum and it is risky. For coaches that are dads with paid coaches, those are usually the most dedicated.

2014 2016 2017 2018 outlaws never beat express until 10 th grade then never lost to them.,enjoy past success, but no not expect to be almighty( even if u all go to STA and chaminot)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2014 2016 2017 2018 outlaws never beat express until 10 th grade then never lost to them.,enjoy past success, but no not expect to be almighty( even if u all go to STA and chaminot)

I think referencing a club that no longer exists is probably not the best example.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2014 2016 2017 2018 outlaws never beat express until 10 th grade then never lost to them.,enjoy past success, but no not expect to be almighty( even if u all go to STA and chaminot)

Dont compare rebels and outlaws they arent even close.

They are one and the same

How did the Rush/Legacy merger work out? Did it draw more talent to try outs or did it push kids away? Does it seem like the AA team will be able to compete with the top teams? How many teams did they end up forming?

They were looking for a FOGO so not sure how well it may have worked out for them

Is it worth it to sign up for some of these college days if you haven’t been invited by one of the coaches ? Is it a money grab if that particular school hasn’t showed interest in your kid? Thanks if advance

It’s a bit early for 2025s to be going to school specific showcases, isn’t it? Nevertheless, it is a huge climb to get on a radar of a college coach at these sessions if your son is not specifically invited. Remember, these D1 schools have 100s of kids to choose from. They start focusing on their top kids and use these events to get final looks, and rank them on their boards. It’s very difficult for an uninvited kid to move enough up that ladder, unless the kid is a very late bloomer, is extremely athletic and has the best camp possible. Just an opinion, but it’s very difficult.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it worth it to sign up for some of these college days if you haven’t been invited by one of the coaches ? Is it a money grab if that particular school hasn’t showed interest in your kid? Thanks if advance

The D1 schools are not looking at 2025’s. The top D1 schools are looking at 2023’s with an eye on the 24’s. The lower tier D1 schools are still filling out their 2022 recruiting class with an eye on 23’s. It’s not worth it unless your son is a total stud and can stand out playing against the top 23’s. From my experience, Prospect days are a great way to get on a teams radar. I would highly recommend it next year.
The lower tier D1 schools, D2 and D3 find a majority of their players through their prospect days.

Arent we talking about 9th graders? You people need to slow down and smell the roses. College is 4 years away and most of your kids wont even be playing by then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it worth it to sign up for some of these college days if you haven’t been invited by one of the coaches ? Is it a money grab if that particular school hasn’t showed interest in your kid? Thanks if advance

2025 showcases are a total money grab. No coaching staff is evaluating or ranking incoming freshmen this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really. They have been the most consistent program in the group over the past 4 years. Both their A & B teams. They had a down year by their standards but now that their kids hit their growth spurts you will see them return to form. Who out there is better than them on LI, other than 91? The Turtles? Shore? Igloo? Nope....

Facts, Express train will be rolling right into the HS years.

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

Yup! And/or stay in the 9th grade station for 2 years! But, hey … everyone else doing this around the country! So, if it’s an advantage and is allowed and others doing it to get an advantage, why wouldn’t they if they could!? US Lacrosse needs to change the rules for everyone, or the “holdback” situation will only get more prevalent for those who can afford or finagle there way to extra school years! It’s going to become “the norm” to do it for those with means. Is it fair?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

If you can’t win then try and beat up on some younger teams. Great cultural. What about the true birth year 2026 players that just lost their spot ?

Fall season starts soon and then everyone can see who has really improved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

Yup! And/or stay in the 9th grade station for 2 years! But, hey … everyone else doing this around the country! So, if it’s an advantage and is allowed and others doing it to get an advantage, why wouldn’t they if they could!? US Lacrosse needs to change the rules for everyone, or the “holdback” situation will only get more prevalent for those who can afford or finagle there way to extra school years! It’s going to become “the norm” to do it for those with means. Is it fair?

Is this really true. Are some of the 2025s already reclassing this year?

That's pathetic if it is true. These parents need to have their heads examined. To each their own but man, the disappointment you will endure in 4 years...Sheesh

[quote=Anonymous]That's pathetic if it is true. These parents need to have their heads examined. To each their own but man, the disappointment you will endure in 4 years...Sheesh[/quot PS

It’s totally true and parents should get their heads checked. Hard work on the field and in the classroom is what gets you places in life . Not being held back to make your kid look better !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

Yup! And/or stay in the 9th grade station for 2 years! But, hey … everyone else doing this around the country! So, if it’s an advantage and is allowed and others doing it to get an advantage, why wouldn’t they if they could!? US Lacrosse needs to change the rules for everyone, or the “holdback” situation will only get more prevalent for those who can afford or finagle there way to extra school years! It’s going to become “the norm” to do it for those with means. Is it fair?

Is this really true. Are some of the 2025s already reclassing this year?

I personally know 2 already. So yes it's true.

NFHS rule changes for 2022 season

https://www.usalacrosse.com/news-me...OY0Ry_b8N3KSFz0XTY6e2oDVA9Mc_PBCNrAX1q80

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

Yup! And/or stay in the 9th grade station for 2 years! But, hey … everyone else doing this around the country! So, if it’s an advantage and is allowed and others doing it to get an advantage, why wouldn’t they if they could!? US Lacrosse needs to change the rules for everyone, or the “holdback” situation will only get more prevalent for those who can afford or finagle there way to extra school years! It’s going to become “the norm” to do it for those with means. Is it fair?

Is this really true. Are some of the 2025s already reclassing this year?

I personally know 2 already. So yes it's true.

Express kids will move down a year for club but only say they will do a pg year and then not do the pg year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

Yup! And/or stay in the 9th grade station for 2 years! But, hey … everyone else doing this around the country! So, if it’s an advantage and is allowed and others doing it to get an advantage, why wouldn’t they if they could!? US Lacrosse needs to change the rules for everyone, or the “holdback” situation will only get more prevalent for those who can afford or finagle there way to extra school years! It’s going to become “the norm” to do it for those with means. Is it fair?

Is this really true. Are some of the 2025s already reclassing this year?

I personally know 2 already. So yes it's true.

Yes! And, some “lacrosse people” even do it much younger as to get advantage of being the oldest younger and its not so obvious about staying back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

If you can’t win then try and beat up on some younger teams. Great cultural. What about the true birth year 2026 players that just lost their spot ?

Stinks for them but that is reality in this sport. There are the rare exceptions but generally most of the top recruits all holdbacks. Inside lacrosse just published their top players rankings for 2023. Vast vast majority are older. College coaches prefer it, why wouldn’t they.

It stinks! But, it’s not against the rules. Need to push to change the rules if you don’t like it , or have to do it yourself. Problem is, not everyone can afford private schools that allow it! More opportunity/advantage for the privileged. Can’t blame the people doing it, just trying to keep up with the Joneses!

If my son approached me and asked to be held back, I’d tell him it’s time to give up playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If my son approached me and asked to be held back, I’d tell him it’s time to give up playing

No kid wants to be held back in 8th grade for lax. Crazy parents!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If my son approached me and asked to be held back, I’d tell him it’s time to give up playing

That’s ok, because playing with the older kids will make him tougher and probably a better player. However, It may not save him from getting cut in HS level for the holdbacks. But, it def. is a great life lesson. It’s unfortunate Lacrosse has come to this. Hopefully, he will be one of the few on age that can hang in there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The phrase express train sounded pretty cool when they won all the time. That don’t happen anymore. Just say express. Please.

From what I hear a bunch of those passengers are staying at the 8th grade station for another year.

Yup! And/or stay in the 9th grade station for 2 years! But, hey … everyone else doing this around the country! So, if it’s an advantage and is allowed and others doing it to get an advantage, why wouldn’t they if they could!? US Lacrosse needs to change the rules for everyone, or the “holdback” situation will only get more prevalent for those who can afford or finagle there way to extra school years! It’s going to become “the norm” to do it for those with means. Is it fair?

Is this really true. Are some of the 2025s already reclassing this year?

I personally know 2 already. So yes it's true.

Yes! And, some “lacrosse people” even do it much younger as to get advantage of being the oldest younger and its not so obvious about staying back

If the child is doing well in school with their grades, how is a parent able to hold that child back? If you make the request for the child to repeat the grade the district will just do it? Sorry to sound ignorant about this but I am curious how it works

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really. They have been the most consistent program in the group over the past 4 years. Both their A & B teams. They had a down year by their standards but now that their kids hit their growth spurts you will see them return to form. Who out there is better than them on LI, other than 91? The Turtles? Shore? Igloo? Nope....

Facts, Express train will be rolling right into the HS years.

Puberty/growth spurt isn't good for every athlete. It's not a guarantee.

Heard Turtles Folded? any Truth or just certain ages?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Turtles Folded? any Truth or just certain ages?

What Age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Turtles Folded? any Truth or just certain ages?

What Age?

The 2025 team is okay. Solid Team. But they play in B tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Turtles Folded? any Truth or just certain ages?

Not at all. Picked up kids from S2S and Legacy

Practices start this week so we shall see who is who in the coming weeks. Any projections?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Turtles Folded? any Truth or just certain ages?

What Age?

The 2025 team is okay. Solid Team. But they play in B tourneys.

They lost a couple kids but gained some too. The goal seems to be Smithtown-only. Coaches favor Smithtown kids. Not uncommon.

Best Smithtown kids do not play at B- organizations. So not sure about that turtle,Smithtown connection. I believe 2029 and 2027 folded. Not a good sign for future

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Smithtown kids do not play at B- organizations. So not sure about that turtle,Smithtown connection. I believe 2029 and 2027 folded. Not a good sign for future

Not sure about the Smithtown-Turtles connection? Clearly you don't know much about the program. It's almost all Smithtown kids.

Ok they have Smithtown kids, but the best ones play elsewhere.
Except for 2028 which pretty much got best a lot last year, every team is B-. Fine if that's what you want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Smithtown kids do not play at B- organizations. So not sure about that turtle,Smithtown connection. I believe 2029 and 2027 folded. Not a good sign for future

Not sure about the Smithtown-Turtles connection? Clearly you don't know much about the program. It's almost all Smithtown kids.

They definitely aren’t Smithtown only team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Smithtown kids do not play at B- organizations. So not sure about that turtle,Smithtown connection. I believe 2029 and 2027 folded. Not a good sign for future

Not sure about the Smithtown-Turtles connection? Clearly you don't know much about the program. It's almost all Smithtown kids.

They definitely aren’t Smithtown only team.

A lot of talk about the Turtles. The rumor mill has it that they are now an A team.

Any team can declare themselves an A team. But it is how you play on the Field that really determines that. We shall see going forward. There are "B" Teams that can play with the "A" teams and "A" teams that would lose to "B" teams.

The A vs B debate no longer works on Long Island as they are all the same minus 1 or 2 clubs....

The JD Rumor Mill. Lets see them go to some fall tourneys and play the A Teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any team can declare themselves an A team. But it is how you play on the Field that really determines that. We shall see going forward. There are "B" Teams that can play with the "A" teams and "A" teams that would lose to "B" teams.

The A vs B debate no longer works on Long Island as they are all the same minus 1 or 2 clubs....

Agreed. The A, AA, AAA, B, C stuff is just BS. Just makes a certain subset of parents feel better about themselves.

Is your son learning, getting better and playing a lot? That's an A team for him no matter what anyone says.

Who is really an "A" team on LI? 91 , Exp and who? The rest are all on the same level. Prove me wrong...

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is really an "A" team on LI? 91 , Exp and who? The rest are all on the same level. Prove me wrong...

Feels like express has fallen over past year and in the "other" bucket. The other teams are getting closer and closer. Igloo has beaten them. On the flip side, they can no longer beat 91. By saying they are A, you're rounding up. I think others will begin to round down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

2025 programs now trying to sell teams as recruiting services. Nobody but LILJ is ranking or looking at 2025's seriously. Gone are the days of team ball everyone has a look at me attitude. Transfers, the portal and holdbacks have done their damage. Your 18 year old senior will not be playing D1.

Does anyone just let their kid play to have fun? Or just watch them play and enjoy that? The parents are sooo diluted in thinking their kid is some D1 prospect that is going to set the world on fire. I hope these kids have good grades because they are going to need them. And I hope the parents have a psychiatrist to treat them when Johnny is working 9-5.........

Turtles is a B team and mostly Smithtown kids. Smithtown seems very weak at the 2025 age group. I can't think of one good player, it's going to be a rude awakening for their high school coaches.

91 can maybe hang with the top teams but it really is difficult when you're playing against kids a full year or two older. It really seems like LI kids are at a disadvantage unless you're willing to reclass or go the prep school route, very unfortunate.

Look at the 2023 top 50 that just came out. Only four from Long Island. I think the talent pool is now National

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at the 2023 top 50 that just came out. Only four from Long Island. I think the talent pool is now National

National and perhaps a little older than the LI kids? LI is lagging on the holdbacks. It’s Starting to show

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

2025 programs now trying to sell teams as recruiting services. Nobody but LILJ is ranking or looking at 2025's seriously. Gone are the days of team ball everyone has a look at me attitude. Transfers, the portal and holdbacks have done their damage. Your 18 year old senior will not be playing D1.

13 out of 16 are holdbacks? Wow, and you wonder why so much complaining about the holdback situation.

It’s real , and it’s an unfair advantage. LAX is Becoming a Sport for the kids who can afford privates and choose to stay back. SAd, and US Lacrosse should seriously take notice. Youth lacrosse should be “on age” . Don’t let the advantages start at youth level. Make it even playing fields, public or private for youth ages

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

2025 programs now trying to sell teams as recruiting services. Nobody but LILJ is ranking or looking at 2025's seriously. Gone are the days of team ball everyone has a look at me attitude. Transfers, the portal and holdbacks have done their damage. Your 18 year old senior will not be playing D1.

13 out of 16 are holdbacks? Wow, and you wonder why so much complaining about the holdback situation.

It’s real , and it’s an unfair advantage. LAX is Becoming a Sport for the kids who can afford privates and choose to stay back. SAd, and US Lacrosse should seriously take notice. Youth lacrosse should be “on age” . Don’t let the advantages start at youth level. Make it even playing fields, public or private for youth ages

In reality it’s 9 out of the 16 are holdbacks Still pretty bad!! The September-December kids are on age. Most states the cutoff is August 31 to enter school. NY for some reason is November 30. The September 03 kid is a 2022. Who is on age for his state. He is graduating HS then doing a prep year. I have no problem with that. He played 22 division his entire life. But I do agree with you that high end D1 lacrosse is becoming a rich mans sport. Between the cost of clubs, travel expenses. Individual showcases and now add in a year at a top prep school, you have to have the cash to compete.

Youth Lacrosse needs to go to “on age” and not grade base. Let the kids have a chance to develop at the same level/age with their peers. By HS age, the cream will rise to the top and go from there. Let the developmental years be on even playing fields.

2025 is the new 2023. Out of state teams pulling in prep kids. 16yr old 9th graders last year playing 2025 and are just now officially reclassifying.

Dream on. 91 md last year had whole team driving to practice in 8 grade. Some 17

4K is what I pay for dancing school with recitals and costumes and and and — as long as your kid LOVES the game. It’s worth it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dream on. 91 md last year had whole team driving to practice in 8 grade. Some 17

the end justifies the means

Sad thing in this whole age based vs grade issue is PAL, who promotes fair competition, etc etc is grade based? They should at least go age based, but for some reason they don’t. Would love to hear from PAL reps as to why? They actually brought this to a vote about 10 years ago and it was not passed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad thing in this whole age based vs grade issue is PAL, who promotes fair competition, etc etc is grade based? They should at least go age based, but for some reason they don’t. Would love to hear from PAL reps as to why? They actually brought this to a vote about 10 years ago and it was not passed.

Who makes these decisions? It Needs to change to age base. Parents should petition

Who cares? It is what it is. Does it really affect your life that much to petition it? If so maybe sign Johnny up for another sport for your own well being. Practices started this weekend so we shall see who has improved and which clubs just took peoples money....

Long Island Jets

New Long Island Based Box Lacrosse team that will be USBOXLA sanctioned playing in the best National Tournaments

Tryouts: October 3, 2021

Location: Sporttime Bethpage

Time: 10-12pm

Coaches- Brian O’keefe and Mac O’keefe

Sounds like a team 91 adventure

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like a team 91 adventure

It isn’t dynamic…. That’s hopeful.

So whats the take on teams now that 1 week of practices are in the books? I heard form 2 friends from 2 different teams and it was messy.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad thing in this whole age based vs grade issue is PAL, who promotes fair competition, etc etc is grade based? They should at least go age based, but for some reason they don’t. Would love to hear from PAL reps as to why? They actually brought this to a vote about 10 years ago and it was not passed.

Who makes these decisions? It Needs to change to age base. Parents should petition

Why would they? The governing body for USA Lacrosse doesn't even have a clear stance on the issue.

Anyone know of any dodging & shooting clinics coming up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So whats the take on teams now that 1 week of practices are in the books? I heard form 2 friends from 2 different teams and it was messy.....

Seriously? It's football season. My son is playing football right now. He'll go to lacrosse stuff when he has time but football is his focus for these couple months out of the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So whats the take on teams now that 1 week of practices are in the books? I heard form 2 friends from 2 different teams and it was messy.....

Seriously? It's football season. My son is playing football right now. He'll go to lacrosse stuff when he has time but football is his focus for these couple months out of the year.

Dude our manual offense is sweet.

The answer is because schools recruit based on grad year, not age. So as bad as it is, it's actually reality. College coaches don't care what age you are when you graduate. So actually makes sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So whats the take on teams now that 1 week of practices are in the books? I heard form 2 friends from 2 different teams and it was messy.....

Seriously? It's football season. My son is playing football right now. He'll go to lacrosse stuff when he has time but football is his focus for these couple months out of the year.

Get off the lacrosse board then dummy

Then you , my friend , are on the wrong board. Assuming Johnny doesnt play travel lax......

Can you give some insight on SHOWTIME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of any dodging & shooting clinics coming up?

https://1stclasslax.com/train

Invites are out I am told.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad thing in this whole age based vs grade issue is PAL, who promotes fair competition, etc etc is grade based? They should at least go age based, but for some reason they don’t. Would love to hear from PAL reps as to why? They actually brought this to a vote about 10 years ago and it was not passed.

Who makes these decisions? It Needs to change to age base. Parents should petition

Why would they? The governing body for USA Lacrosse doesn't even have a clear stance on the issue.

I was once told that, to maintain numbers and grow the game its best to have kids play with their friends/peers. Friends/peers are usually in the same grade.
The reason it will NEVER change is down to recruiting. College coaches dont care how old you are. That said, they do know a kid who is only getting the advantage because of the extra year and when comparing to a kid on age performing at the same level they will take the on age kid because there is more upside. The top echelon holdbacks light it up and would generally be very good on age anyway.

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

Pretty sure club team unless he is a FOGO or Goalie...Then their position coach can recommend them. You can email them with highlight video ahead of time but invites just went out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of any dodging & shooting clinics coming up?

https://1stclasslax.com/train

Thank you !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

Pretty sure club team unless he is a FOGO or Goalie...Then their position coach can recommend them. You can email them with highlight video ahead of time but invites just went out.

the clubs submit their recommendations. You don’t apply or send film. It’s 100% invite only

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

If your son doesn’t play for one of the bigger reputable clubs his chances are very low. This is all done on the club level.

MoneyTime, not Showtime..Pay up suckas

its very very political!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

If your son doesn’t play for one of the bigger reputable clubs his chances are very low. This is all done on the club level.

ALL these clubs have turned youth lacrosse into a cesspool. Reputable owners are few and far between. They are all trying to promote their brand and cash out. Bitter yes, but more disappointed at how little loyalty or respect these clubs show families and children. My oldest now almost done with college came in at the tail end. The kids he plays with are from all over the country and can't believe what is going on around us. This isn't college and most of them will never play college ball. Gone are the days when kids used to play with their friends and DEVELOPE into great teams. Can't wait to hear what all the haters have to say about this post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

If your son doesn’t play for one of the bigger reputable clubs his chances are very low. This is all done on the club level.

Had my kids play for the good teams with connections, they played in college, not that hard. Two played for major brands and the other for a niche team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

If your son doesn’t play for one of the bigger reputable clubs his chances are very low. This is all done on the club level.

ALL these clubs have turned youth lacrosse into a cesspool. Reputable owners are few and far between. They are all trying to promote their brand and cash out. Bitter yes, but more disappointed at how little loyalty or respect these clubs show families and children. My oldest now almost done with college came in at the tail end. The kids he plays with are from all over the country and can't believe what is going on around us. This isn't college and most of them will never play college ball. Gone are the days when kids used to play with their friends and DEVELOPE into great teams. Can't wait to hear what all the haters have to say about this post.

You say it like the kids and parents show loyalty. Everyone chasing the shiny object creates the market. Really not sure what you think the club directors should do. Open a business, take the first 22 kids in the door and then watch for the next 10 years? How is that going to work? You said it, youre bitter but why? Who did you wrong and how?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

If your son doesn’t play for one of the bigger reputable clubs his chances are very low. This is all done on the club level.

ALL these clubs have turned youth lacrosse into a cesspool. Reputable owners are few and far between. They are all trying to promote their brand and cash out. Bitter yes, but more disappointed at how little loyalty or respect these clubs show families and children. My oldest now almost done with college came in at the tail end. The kids he plays with are from all over the country and can't believe what is going on around us. This isn't college and most of them will never play college ball. Gone are the days when kids used to play with their friends and DEVELOPE into great teams. Can't wait to hear what all the haters have to say about this post.

It's not ALL clubs. My son plays for a team where the core boys, the starters, have been more or less the same for 4 or so years now. They've really developed together and have great chemistry. My son could play for a "bigger" club but there's something to be said for loyalty and learning the value of working toward something instead of just plugging yourself into an already great team. Hard work is what gets you ahead in life, not bouncing around for greener pastures all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

If your son doesn’t play for one of the bigger reputable clubs his chances are very low. This is all done on the club level.

ALL these clubs have turned youth lacrosse into a cesspool. Reputable owners are few and far between. They are all trying to promote their brand and cash out. Bitter yes, but more disappointed at how little loyalty or respect these clubs show families and children. My oldest now almost done with college came in at the tail end. The kids he plays with are from all over the country and can't believe what is going on around us. This isn't college and most of them will never play college ball. Gone are the days when kids used to play with their friends and DEVELOPE into great teams. Can't wait to hear what all the haters have to say about this post.

You say it like the kids and parents show loyalty. Everyone chasing the shiny object creates the market. Really not sure what you think the club directors should do. Open a business, take the first 22 kids in the door and then watch for the next 10 years? How is that going to work? You said it, youre bitter but why? Who did you wrong and how?

Kids and parents can and do show loyalty if the coaches earn it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get invite to Showtime are they given out by the club

If your son doesn’t play for one of the bigger reputable clubs his chances are very low. This is all done on the club level.

ALL these clubs have turned youth lacrosse into a cesspool. Reputable owners are few and far between. They are all trying to promote their brand and cash out. Bitter yes, but more disappointed at how little loyalty or respect these clubs show families and children. My oldest now almost done with college came in at the tail end. The kids he plays with are from all over the country and can't believe what is going on around us. This isn't college and most of them will never play college ball. Gone are the days when kids used to play with their friends and DEVELOPE into great teams. Can't wait to hear what all the haters have to say about this post.

It's not ALL clubs. My son plays for a team where the core boys, the starters, have been more or less the same for 4 or so years now. They've really developed together and have great chemistry. My son could play for a "bigger" club but there's something to be said for loyalty and learning the value of working toward something instead of just plugging yourself into an already great team. Hard work is what gets you ahead in life, not bouncing around for greener pastures all the time.

Correct and same for my daughters and sons teams in upstate ny. All the top teams they play are the same.Most of the top kids have played together for a long while and develop with good coaching.Some good new talent comes in over the years but the core is the same. Only the kids who do not work hard or trouble parents get cut. Anyone complaining about development and isnt any good and loses a lot is just a bad group and run away. Results matter in life and lax.

What team? Thats rare

Crickets....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crickets....

Football season. Should be quiet

Can we talk about Igloo? The 2025 B team imploded after last season with good reason. So this year instead of folding that disaster of a program they kept the remaining players and combined them with their current A group. They also added a few journeymen (5 teams in 5 years) to their roster of 50. I feel terrible for our friends that stayed. We couldn't get away from that guy fast enough. In a dirty business with zero oversight he has become the worst of the worst. I guess as long as people are shelling out he'll keep getting away with it. For a program that hasn't won anything it's mind boggling that people still want to play there.
Maybe for another forum but how are they even getting away with having a WSYL only program separate from their 2027 program? That guy has really hit a new low and is trying to drag the rest of the Long Island programs down with him. Hopefully they don't follow and WSYL shuts him down.

Igloo is in a death spiral. How would you like to attend a 40-45 kid joint practice with 3 coaches where they dont even tell you which kids are on the A or B team? The director tries selling the parents "recruiting" but no kid will get recruited if they are NOT being developed. Some parents, mainly the green ones, will eat that BS up.

Not sure why anyone stays there other than the cool powder blue or the "bragging rights" (Oh wait...What have they won in the past 5 years?) And what are the parents thinking? They all got hosed... Shame on them. Bad business. It just takes 1 parent to make a stand though.

Forcegloo has become WritethecheckGloo.

So far it seems many clubs are off to a bad start after first week of practices.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is in a death spiral. How would you like to attend a 40-45 kid joint practice with 3 coaches where they dont even tell you which kids are on the A or B team? The director tries selling the parents "recruiting" but no kid will get recruited if they are NOT being developed. Some parents, mainly the green ones, will eat that BS up.

Not sure why anyone stays there other than the cool powder blue or the "bragging rights" (Oh wait...What have they won in the past 5 years?) And what are the parents thinking? They all got hosed... Shame on them. Bad business. It just takes 1 parent to make a stand though.

Forcegloo has become WritethecheckGloo.

So far it seems many clubs are off to a bad start after first week of practices.

How would you like to be one of the 35 selected for an Igloo 2027 WSYL team from players all over LI. Keep in mind that the final roster only allows 24 kids. Oh wait, he did that to kids last year too. Now also keep in mind this is totally separate team and additional expense than the 2027 Igloo Kodiak Rush. Igloo can justify it any way they want, age eligible, other programs do it, Maryland does it, blah, blah, blah. For a program that used to advertise a different mission statement and being the anti-travel team. They are not anti anything. They are pro money, period. It begs the question is it really AA or does his advisory board have a financial stake in all these poor decisions. Sure seems like it.

As long as the parents continue to let the program undress them...... It's still a Total Bush-league move by organization but noone is forcing the parents, or worse, the kids, to stay for the privilege of being abused.... "Just say No" and find another team. Arent there like 50 + these days? Oh wait...Id rather pay $5k for an "A" team and never have my kid set foot on the field. Great thought process....NOT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as the parents continue to let the program undress them...... It's still a Total Bush-league move by organization but noone is forcing the parents, or worse, the kids, to stay for the privilege of being abused.... "Just say No" and find another team. Arent there like 50 + these days? Oh wait...Id rather pay $5k for an "A" team and never have my kid set foot on the field. Great thought process....NOT

When the director springs the new formula on you after all other tryouts and rosters are filled what other options are? Yes easy to say walk away but private training does noting to help other than a select few (goalies and attack maybe).

I know every situation is different for everyone but at some point people need to stop letting these clubs fleece them. Look for a Non "Name" club that actually cares about lacrosse and the kids playing it.

If the director just "sprang" it on people they should "spring it back" and get their $ back. "If I stay in this house and get punched in the face every day its better than not having a roof over my head" Seriously? Ask people that got punched how that turned out in the long run. Your kid wont even be playing lacrosse in 2 years under that type of program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know every situation is different for everyone but at some point people need to stop letting these clubs fleece them. Look for a Non "Name" club that actually cares about lacrosse and the kids playing it.

If the director just "sprang" it on people they should "spring it back" and get their $ back. "If I stay in this house and get punched in the face every day its better than not having a roof over my head" Seriously? Ask people that got punched how that turned out in the long run. Your kid wont even be playing lacrosse in 2 years under that type of program.

What happened with Igloo B? My sons team played them over the summer and they had a lot of decent players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as the parents continue to let the program undress them...... It's still a Total Bush-league move by organization but noone is forcing the parents, or worse, the kids, to stay for the privilege of being abused.... "Just say No" and find another team. Arent there like 50 + these days? Oh wait...Id rather pay $5k for an "A" team and never have my kid set foot on the field. Great thought process....NOT

When the director springs the new formula on you after all other tryouts and rosters are filled what other options are? Yes easy to say walk away but private training does noting to help other than a select few (goalies and attack maybe).

Guys like that him getting away with it because people don't want to embarrass themselves by telling the truth. Expose this shuckster and make his nonsense go viral. It's time for the nonsense within all the programs to stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as the parents continue to let the program undress them...... It's still a Total Bush-league move by organization but noone is forcing the parents, or worse, the kids, to stay for the privilege of being abused.... "Just say No" and find another team. Arent there like 50 + these days? Oh wait...Id rather pay $5k for an "A" team and never have my kid set foot on the field. Great thought process....NOT

When the director springs the new formula on you after all other tryouts and rosters are filled what other options are? Yes easy to say walk away but private training does noting to help other than a select few (goalies and attack maybe).

Maybe you should have done more homework and been in a better situation, ya know ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What team? Thats rare

Sweetlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as the parents continue to let the program undress them...... It's still a Total Bush-league move by organization but noone is forcing the parents, or worse, the kids, to stay for the privilege of being abused.... "Just say No" and find another team. Arent there like 50 + these days? Oh wait...Id rather pay $5k for an "A" team and never have my kid set foot on the field. Great thought process....NOT

When the director springs the new formula on you after all other tryouts and rosters are filled what other options are? Yes easy to say walk away but private training does noting to help other than a select few (goalies and attack maybe).

Guys like that him getting away with it because people don't want to embarrass themselves by telling the truth. Expose this shuckster and make his nonsense go viral. It's time for the nonsense within all the programs to stop.

It's amazing these programs get away with this garbage. If you were caught up in this mess, demand your money back and find another home. There are definitely a few other programs that have roster spots open.

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as the parents continue to let the program undress them...... It's still a Total Bush-league move by organization but noone is forcing the parents, or worse, the kids, to stay for the privilege of being abused.... "Just say No" and find another team. Arent there like 50 + these days? Oh wait...Id rather pay $5k for an "A" team and never have my kid set foot on the field. Great thought process....NOT

When the director springs the new formula on you after all other tryouts and rosters are filled what other options are? Yes easy to say walk away but private training does noting to help other than a select few (goalies and attack maybe).

Guys like that him getting away with it because people don't want to embarrass themselves by telling the truth. Expose this shuckster and make his nonsense go viral. It's time for the nonsense within all the programs to stop.

It's amazing these programs get away with this garbage. If you were caught up in this mess, demand your money back and find another home. There are definitely a few other programs that have roster spots open.

John Harvey – No Excuse (Tennessee)

I think what makes a club program successful is if it can meet the standards it sets for itself clearly from the start. You have to be very open, honest and clear with your families about what they getting into. If you promise certain things, you must do everything you possibly can do deliver on those promises. Never puff up your program to sell it. A very close second is the people involved. This goes for both sides. The coaches are really the heart beat of the program and they have to represent the program and the qualities that are important to you. The families must also buy into what you are trying to do and be willing to let the kids play, coaches coach, and refs ref.

Marty Kupprion – NXT (Philadelphia)

It’s too easy to fall into the trap of thinking that the only thing that makes a club successful is the amount of Division I – and high ones, at that – commitments. The most important thing for a player who plays for a club is the type of experience he (and his family) will get out of it.

Not following here ^^^^^^^. Explain please?

Who are the hornets?

91 b team

Ahhh No idea. Were/are they any good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ahhh No idea. Were/are they any good?

91B? I haven’t seen them play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

2025 programs now trying to sell teams as recruiting services. Nobody but LILJ is ranking or looking at 2025's seriously. Gone are the days of team ball everyone has a look at me attitude. Transfers, the portal and holdbacks have done their damage. Your 18 year old senior will not be playing D1.

13 out of 16 are holdbacks? Wow, and you wonder why so much complaining about the holdback situation.

It’s real , and it’s an unfair advantage. LAX is Becoming a Sport for the kids who can afford privates and choose to stay back. SAd, and US Lacrosse should seriously take notice. Youth lacrosse should be “on age” . Don’t let the advantages start at youth level. Make it even playing fields, public or private for youth ages

My son is young for his grade. I wouldn’t want him to play with his age group they wouldn’t be his friends. I guess if he did play with his age group he would look more dominant. But I know my kid would want to play with his friends more importantly. I can’t believe people do this holdback stuff in the later years of school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

2025 programs now trying to sell teams as recruiting services. Nobody but LILJ is ranking or looking at 2025's seriously. Gone are the days of team ball everyone has a look at me attitude. Transfers, the portal and holdbacks have done their damage. Your 18 year old senior will not be playing D1.

13 out of 16 are holdbacks? Wow, and you wonder why so much complaining about the holdback situation.

It’s real , and it’s an unfair advantage. LAX is Becoming a Sport for the kids who can afford privates and choose to stay back. SAd, and US Lacrosse should seriously take notice. Youth lacrosse should be “on age” . Don’t let the advantages start at youth level. Make it even playing fields, public or private for youth ages

My son is young for his grade. I wouldn’t want him to play with his age group they wouldn’t be his friends. I guess if he did play with his age group he would look more dominant. But I know my kid would want to play with his friends more importantly. I can’t believe people do this holdback stuff in the later years of school.

Believe it! It’s done and being done more and more. Look at the kids who end up playing at the best colleges. A lot of holdbacks! People feeling the pressure with the younger kids at the MS age, unless kid is a phenom! Depends on what level of college play kid is shooting for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

2025 programs now trying to sell teams as recruiting services. Nobody but LILJ is ranking or looking at 2025's seriously. Gone are the days of team ball everyone has a look at me attitude. Transfers, the portal and holdbacks have done their damage. Your 18 year old senior will not be playing D1.

13 out of 16 are holdbacks? Wow, and you wonder why so much complaining about the holdback situation.

It’s real , and it’s an unfair advantage. LAX is Becoming a Sport for the kids who can afford privates and choose to stay back. SAd, and US Lacrosse should seriously take notice. Youth lacrosse should be “on age” . Don’t let the advantages start at youth level. Make it even playing fields, public or private for youth ages

My son is young for his grade. I wouldn’t want him to play with his age group they wouldn’t be his friends. I guess if he did play with his age group he would look more dominant. But I know my kid would want to play with his friends more importantly. I can’t believe people do this holdback stuff in the later years of school.

Believe it! It’s done and being done more and more. Look at the kids who end up playing at the best colleges. A lot of holdbacks! People feeling the pressure with the younger kids at the MS age, unless kid is a phenom! Depends on what level of college play kid is shooting for?

It’s lacrosse, What’s the end game?There are way too many uncontrollable variables, makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all wasting your time on this AA, A, B nonsense. Did any of you see the recent 2023 player rankings? 13 of top 16 kids were hold backs. Only 4 of top 50 from Long Island. Less than 10%. None if this matters anymore. Your kid better be a unicorn and older to go top D1.

2025 programs now trying to sell teams as recruiting services. Nobody but LILJ is ranking or looking at 2025's seriously. Gone are the days of team ball everyone has a look at me attitude. Transfers, the portal and holdbacks have done their damage. Your 18 year old senior will not be playing D1.

13 out of 16 are holdbacks? Wow, and you wonder why so much complaining about the holdback situation.

It’s real , and it’s an unfair advantage. LAX is Becoming a Sport for the kids who can afford privates and choose to stay back. SAd, and US Lacrosse should seriously take notice. Youth lacrosse should be “on age” . Don’t let the advantages start at youth level. Make it even playing fields, public or private for youth ages

My son is young for his grade. I wouldn’t want him to play with his age group they wouldn’t be his friends. I guess if he did play with his age group he would look more dominant. But I know my kid would want to play with his friends more importantly. I can’t believe people do this holdback stuff in the later years of school.

Believe it! It’s done and being done more and more. Look at the kids who end up playing at the best colleges. A lot of holdbacks! People feeling the pressure with the younger kids at the MS age, unless kid is a phenom! Depends on what level of college play kid is shooting for?

It’s lacrosse, What’s the end game?There are way too many uncontrollable variables, makes no sense to me.

Yes, it is JUST lacrosse. The end game is to get into a better school that you wouldn’t maybe had a chance of getting into. Better opportunities ?

Better opportunities, maybe. For like 50 kids or so on Long Island for D1. So many kids are playing now. The best opportunity will exist at D3 for educational opportunities. Lax can get your son into a NSCAC school or an RPI or RIT. That is more realistic. Don’t be a D1 chaser, if it happens great. You have two years until September 2023 to figure it out. First sign that your son isn’t going to Duke is when he is not invited Maverick or UA. So many kids play now on a national level and tons of competition of college spots.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better opportunities, maybe. For like 50 kids or so on Long Island for D1. So many kids are playing now. The best opportunity will exist at D3 for educational opportunities. Lax can get your son into a NSCAC school or an RPI or RIT. That is more realistic. Don’t be a D1 chaser, if it happens great. You have two years until September 2023 to figure it out. First sign that your son isn’t going to Duke is when he is not invited Maverick or UA. So many kids play now on a national level and tons of competition of college spots.

That is probably right. Top 12 attack, 15 mids, 15 poles and 5 goalies and 3 Fogos. That is still a lot of spots and certainly larger that Maverik or UA roster.

The list is prob slightly bigger initially because the other filters you are missing are grades and $

How does the 2025 age group stack up for this upcoming season? Whos good? Whos not?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does the 2025 age group stack up for this upcoming season? Whos good? Whos not?

There is no I in Team at this age anymore, only ME. Nobody cares about team records or who are the best club teams. maybe some parents for bragging rights. It's all about showcasing individual talent and promoting how many kids the club get committed. Find a program where you're on the field, getting better and enjoy the players and parents. This ain't youth lacrosse anymore, you've entered the dog eat dog world of college recruiting. Well not actually, because nobody and I mean nobody is looking at 2025's yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does the 2025 age group stack up for this upcoming season? Whos good? Whos not?

There is no I in Team at this age anymore, only ME. Nobody cares about team records or who are the best club teams. maybe some parents for bragging rights. It's all about showcasing individual talent and promoting how many kids the club get committed. Find a program where you're on the field, getting better and enjoy the players and parents. This ain't youth lacrosse anymore, you've entered the dog eat dog world of college recruiting. Well not actually, because nobody and I mean nobody is looking at 2025's yet.

The number one goal imho is finding the best team that your son can play on, not be on. That is so important for so many reasons. This is HS and being a practice player doesn’t work any longer. Confidence comes from success on the field, not on the sideline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better opportunities, maybe. For like 50 kids or so on Long Island for D1. So many kids are playing now. The best opportunity will exist at D3 for educational opportunities. Lax can get your son into a NSCAC school or an RPI or RIT. That is more realistic. Don’t be a D1 chaser, if it happens great. You have two years until September 2023 to figure it out. First sign that your son isn’t going to Duke is when he is not invited Maverick or UA. So many kids play now on a national level and tons of competition of college spots.

That is probably right. Top 12 attack, 15 mids, 15 poles and 5 goalies and 3 Fogos. That is still a lot of spots and certainly larger that Maverik or UA roster.

The list is prob slightly bigger initially because the other filters you are missing are grades and $

On average the past few years there have been about 80-85 D1 players from Long Island. Most of the kids that committed to top academic schools had the grades to get in without lacrosse. Lacrosse made the admissions process much easier.
If a players grades are low. The top academic schools will not take them unless they are a superstar. Who they believe can light it up as a freshman Some years back when I coached club. We had a player who was extremely good. He committed to a high academic D1 school. He was a B average. They could not get him through admissions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

There were a lot of changes

Saw a Stat recently do not remember where. Said 28 % of kids that play college are from Island. That's all divisions/Club
Also said that LI rate has gone up last few years, thought it would go down with game spreading all around
Just shows we are and always will be STRONG ISLAND

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw a Stat recently do not remember where. Said 28 % of kids that play college are from Island. That's all divisions/Club
Also said that LI rate has gone up last few years, thought it would go down with game spreading all around
Just shows we are and always will be STRONG ISLAND

Yes, but what that also means is that D2 and D3 lax opportunities are more likely because more and more talent is being developed nationally. Great for the game. And if you have a chance to ever watch and D2 or D3 or club game, the talent level is high. There is definitely a spot for every kid.

Enough No 9th grader is getting recruited right now. Move on. Lets talk about the current lay of the land instead... 2025 group a mess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough No 9th grader is getting recruited right now. Move on. Lets talk about the current lay of the land instead... 2025 group a mess.

Why is it a mess? Lots of options for different skill levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

There were a lot of changes

why were there a lot of changes? i thought the team played very well last year. what kind of changes were made?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough No 9th grader is getting recruited right now. Move on. Lets talk about the current lay of the land instead... 2025 group a mess.

Why is it a mess? Lots of options for different skill levels.

Why is it a mess? You have three elite teams on LI and a bunch of 2nd tier A teams and then B teams or 2nd teams.

91
Igloo
Express

Rebels
Legrush
Regulators
S2S
True Blue
Turtles

FLG
Express
91
S2S
Legrush
Rebels
24
Jokers
Recon
Checkmate
ECE
Empire
United

Lotsa choice for all ability levels. Not really a mess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough No 9th grader is getting recruited right now. Move on. Lets talk about the current lay of the land instead... 2025 group a mess.

Besides express, any other team seeing 2024s now reclass if?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough No 9th grader is getting recruited right now. Move on. Lets talk about the current lay of the land instead... 2025 group a mess.

Why is it a mess? Lots of options for different skill levels.

91 MD by far and away the best in age group…..grade group should say as they’re also have the most hold backs.

Better than Blast? How is Express this year? Heard Igloo is a total disaster... And there was a lot of movement to and between B teams. Will be interesting as Blatant has a tournament in October. I guess we will see then...granted teams show up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

There were a lot of changes

why were there a lot of changes? i thought the team played very well last year. what kind of changes were made?

Always big changes on B teams of big clubs. Some players look for an A team opening.
Very tough for these teams to keep their better players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

There were a lot of changes

why were there a lot of changes? i thought the team played very well last year. what kind of changes were made?

Looking to make improvements I suppose and try and take a step up.

WHich of the B teams are the cream of the crop?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHich of the B teams are the cream of the crop?

FLG, 91 and Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

There were a lot of changes

why were there a lot of changes? i thought the team played very well last year. what kind of changes were made?

Always big changes on B teams of big clubs. Some players look for an A team opening.
Very tough for these teams to keep their better players

The better B players now have an intermediary step between AA and lower A teams. Teams like True Blue, The Turtles and The Regulators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

There were a lot of changes

why were there a lot of changes? i thought the team played very well last year. what kind of changes were made?

Always big changes on B teams of big clubs. Some players look for an A team opening.
Very tough for these teams to keep their better players

The better B players now have an intermediary step between AA and lower A teams. Teams like True Blue, The Turtles and The Regulators.

Who decided there are A and AA levels?

TB is basically a Massapequa town team, good luck getting any time if your not from Massapequa
Regulators is a side gig for CSH/Roar kids.

Rebels, Rush, 91B, Express B,,FLG, Legacy, Recon, all decent B and below options.

Igloo B a mess, S2S can't compete at B level

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Why is FLG being talked about as a “top tier B team”? Are they even fielding a team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Why is FLG being talked about as a “top tier B team”? Are they even fielding a team?

FLG is definitely fielding a team. My son plays for Rebels and they were practicing at the same fields as us (Stimpson MS) over the weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Such a great statement parents are fools ......... wait until the college coaches come around and your kid is sitting on sideline ... Good Luck getting recruited .... i have seen this playout for many years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Why is FLG being talked about as a “top tier B team”? Are they even fielding a team?

FLG is definitely fielding a team. My son plays for Rebels and they were practicing at the same fields as us (Stimpson MS) over the weekend.

My son left Igloo B to go to FLG...So far, so good. He likes the coaches and practices much better than Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Such a great statement parents are fools ......... wait until the college coaches come around and your kid is sitting on sideline ... Good Luck getting recruited .... i have seen this playout for many years

Are you speaking directly to the Igloo Northface parents? It's comical what the parents are putting their kids through on that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Why is FLG being talked about as a “top tier B team”? Are they even fielding a team?

FLG is definitely fielding a team. My son plays for Rebels and they were practicing at the same fields as us (Stimpson MS) over the weekend.

My son left Igloo B to go to FLG...So far, so good. He likes the coaches and practices much better than Igloo.

I think Igloo B lost half their team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Answer me this honestly, would you rather have your son on a top tier AA/A team (91, Express, etc) and not play a minute or have him play every minute on a top tier B team (91B, Express B, FLG, etc)?

Such a great statement parents are fools ......... wait until the college coaches come around and your kid is sitting on sideline ... Good Luck getting recruited .... i have seen this playout for many years

Are you speaking directly to the Igloo Northface parents? It's comical what the parents are putting their kids through on that team.

Wait? You can’t get recruited from the bench. Some parents need a lax intervention imho.

The parents on Igloo aren’t putting their kids through anything. The parents and the kids were misled after all other tryouts were done and gone. Now these kids and parents are stuck because there is nowhere to go right now but I can almost guarantee there will be a mass exodus from Northface next year considering how many of the good kids either attend St. Anthony’s or Chaminade. We all know that’s Express territory or the parents are just fed up with the BS. It stinks but it’s time for parents to do what’s right for their kids and not rely on others to do it for them.

Coach is nuts

We switched clubs, were at shore two snore and went to Rebels. So far we are very happy with all. Team is also very very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We switched clubs, were at shore two snore and went to Rebels. So far we are very happy with all. Team is also very very good.

Did your son go to Rebels A or B? The S2S A & B teams lost a lot of kids...don't see them being too relevant going forward at the 2025 level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The parents on Igloo aren’t putting their kids through anything. The parents and the kids were misled after all other tryouts were done and gone. Now these kids and parents are stuck because there is nowhere to go right now but I can almost guarantee there will be a mass exodus from Northface next year considering how many of the good kids either attend St. Anthony’s or Chaminade. We all know that’s Express territory or the parents are just fed up with the BS. It stinks but it’s time for parents to do what’s right for their kids and not rely on others to do it for them.

No one is stuck anywhere. If your son is good enough he could grab a spot on pretty much any team...even after tryouts. That's a fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The parents on Igloo aren’t putting their kids through anything. The parents and the kids were misled after all other tryouts were done and gone. Now these kids and parents are stuck because there is nowhere to go right now but I can almost guarantee there will be a mass exodus from Northface next year considering how many of the good kids either attend St. Anthony’s or Chaminade. We all know that’s Express territory or the parents are just fed up with the BS. It stinks but it’s time for parents to do what’s right for their kids and not rely on others to do it for them.

No one is stuck anywhere. If your son is good enough he could grab a spot on pretty much any team...even after tryouts. That's a fact!

I don’t think that is the point that is being made. I could be wrong. It seems like there is 1 1/2 teams and the A team will be fine. If that’s the case, I can see the concern from the parents.

If the stuck kids were good enough, they would already be GONE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough No 9th grader is getting recruited right now. Move on. Lets talk about the current lay of the land instead... 2025 group a mess.

Why is it a mess? Lots of options for different skill levels.

Why is it a mess? You have three elite teams on LI and a bunch of 2nd tier A teams and then B teams or 2nd teams.

91
Igloo
Express

Rebels
Legrush
Regulators
S2S
True Blue
Turtles

FLG
Express
91
S2S
Legrush
Rebels
24
Jokers
Recon
Checkmate
ECE
Empire
United

Lotsa choice for all ability levels. Not really a mess.

2025 has too many average and below average teams but at this point it's about playing time and getting better. 91 and Express are the tops because year after year because they draw the best talent and have the coaching to back it up. Igloo are the great pretenders, they haven't won a thing and from what I've seen they aren't coached very well. It's HS/recruiting teams now which leads to a lot of player and parent animosity and me first ball. Find a program that your player gets decent coaching and playing time. The best part of the next few years will be them playing HS with their friends(win or lose), not club lacrosse.

Watered Down, poor instruction, zero development. Great options

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough No 9th grader is getting recruited right now. Move on. Lets talk about the current lay of the land instead... 2025 group a mess.

Why is it a mess? Lots of options for different skill levels.

Why is it a mess? You have three elite teams on LI and a bunch of 2nd tier A teams and then B teams or 2nd teams.

91
Igloo
Express

Rebels
Legrush
Regulators
S2S
True Blue
Turtles

FLG
Express
91
S2S
Legrush
Rebels
24
Jokers
Recon
Checkmate
ECE
Empire
United

Lotsa choice for all ability levels. Not really a mess.

2025 has too many average and below average teams but at this point it's about playing time and getting better. 91 and Express are the tops because year after year because they draw the best talent and have the coaching to back it up. Igloo are the great pretenders, they haven't won a thing and from what I've seen they aren't coached very well. It's HS/recruiting teams now which leads to a lot of player and parent animosity and me first ball. Find a program that your player gets decent coaching and playing time. The best part of the next few years will be them playing HS with their friends(win or lose), not club lacrosse.

Sounds like you need to bud out of your kids life, he needs to hit the wall and stop playing victim and look at the world as glass half full.

S2S has been irrelevant in this age group since day one. They are in the TB, Turtle and B team category.

Think top 3 are AA with only ? Is Igloo( heard some turnover) A plus would be Legarush Rebels regulators the next 3 on list B plus at best. Rest B/C

Hard to say but the Long Island teams are all going to have a hard time going forward against 91 MD, Laxachusetts Black and every other team out there that has a roster where 80% of the kids are at least a full year older if not more. They're not better lacrosse players. Just older, bigger, faster, stronger and know how to play. It's unfortunate but unless you're willing to reclass your kid, that's who is going to get the looks.

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Sounds like your son is not on a elite AA team. Nothing personal or fugaze. For my two older sons the elite AA teams successfully converted all of the above and more. Both played D1 and both were second line pole and mids until the end. Elite coaching and reps got them there. Both started on their high school due to elite club team. If you are not elite you are outside looking in. Measure elite by coaching, track record, and quality of practice.

Are most varsity lacrosse programs having workouts/practices this time of year? Even though it's football and soccer season and the best lacrosse players are probably in-season for those?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are most varsity lacrosse programs having workouts/practices this time of year? Even though it's football and soccer season and the best lacrosse players are probably in-season for those?

Yes, but they're optional. In my sons school, if you're currently in-season with a sport you are not allowed to participate in any off-season sessions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are most varsity lacrosse programs having workouts/practices this time of year? Even though it's football and soccer season and the best lacrosse players are probably in-season for those?

Yes, but they're optional. In my sons school, if you're currently in-season with a sport you are not allowed to participate in any off-season sessions

We are just starting them this week at our school. My son is going to go to lacrosse depending on homework load and how he feels physically after football.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Sounds like your son is not on a elite AA team. Nothing personal or fugaze. For my two older sons the elite AA teams successfully converted all of the above and more. Both played D1 and both were second line pole and mids until the end. Elite coaching and reps got them there. Both started on their high school due to elite club team. If you are not elite you are outside looking in. Measure elite by coaching, track record, and quality of practice.

Elite AA, what does that even mean? I call BS, but does their degree from Hartford just to play lacrosse really have Fortune 500 companies lining up to hire them after graduation. I guess you can all sit around talking about the glory days and NCC. #laxlife

Wall Street is loaded with college lacrosse players. Had 3 kids play and everyone was offered top paying jobs by numerous companies. One very high academic, other 2 average. If you do not think NCAA athletes have an advantage coming out of school then your just not in touch with reality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Sounds like your son is not on a elite AA team. Nothing personal or fugaze. For my two older sons the elite AA teams successfully converted all of the above and more. Both played D1 and both were second line pole and mids until the end. Elite coaching and reps got them there. Both started on their high school due to elite club team. If you are not elite you are outside looking in. Measure elite by coaching, track record, and quality of practice.

Elite AA, what does that even mean? I call BS, but does their degree from Hartford just to play lacrosse really have Fortune 500 companies lining up to hire them after graduation. I guess you can all sit around talking about the glory days and NCC. #laxlife

Bet you are a snob from CT. Putting down NCC is something a snob does. No wonder your blaming others for your failure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Sounds like your son is not on a elite AA team. Nothing personal or fugaze. For my two older sons the elite AA teams successfully converted all of the above and more. Both played D1 and both were second line pole and mids until the end. Elite coaching and reps got them there. Both started on their high school due to elite club team. If you are not elite you are outside looking in. Measure elite by coaching, track record, and quality of practice.

Elite AA, what does that even mean? I call BS, but does their degree from Hartford just to play lacrosse really have Fortune 500 companies lining up to hire them after graduation. I guess you can all sit around talking about the glory days and NCC. #laxlife

Bet you are a snob from CT. Putting down NCC is something a snob does. No wonder your blaming others for your failure.

Nah, I'm a nassau guy so.. you're welcome. Pretty sure my taxes fund that place. What does the union have lined up for you tomorrow?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Sounds like your son is not on a elite AA team. Nothing personal or fugaze. For my two older sons the elite AA teams successfully converted all of the above and more. Both played D1 and both were second line pole and mids until the end. Elite coaching and reps got them there. Both started on their high school due to elite club team. If you are not elite you are outside looking in. Measure elite by coaching, track record, and quality of practice.

Elite AA, what does that even mean? I call BS, but does their degree from Hartford just to play lacrosse really have Fortune 500 companies lining up to hire them after graduation. I guess you can all sit around talking about the glory days and NCC. #laxlife

Bet you are a snob from CT. Putting down NCC is something a snob does. No wonder your blaming others for your failure.

Nah, I'm a nassau guy so.. you're welcome. Pretty sure my taxes fund that place. What does the union have lined up for you tomorrow?

Hey Pal, what's wrong with you? Chill out, get a grip and stop being so booshie.

Stick to the script. 95% of these kids arent playing in college and the majority of the LI teams are just money grabs ( I mean recruiting showcases) at this point. Let your kid play and enjoy it. Dont ruin their experience by living thru them. Last thing a 14 yr old kid wants to hear is his parents Lax Ambitions being forced onto them....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wall Street is loaded with college lacrosse players. Had 3 kids play and everyone was offered top paying jobs by numerous companies. One very high academic, other 2 average. If you do not think NCAA athletes have an advantage coming out of school then your just not in touch with reality.

And if you’re kid isn’t interested in a 60hr/wk Wall Street job?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Sounds like your son is not on a elite AA team. Nothing personal or fugaze. For my two older sons the elite AA teams successfully converted all of the above and more. Both played D1 and both were second line pole and mids until the end. Elite coaching and reps got them there. Both started on their high school due to elite club team. If you are not elite you are outside looking in. Measure elite by coaching, track record, and quality of practice.

Elite AA, what does that even mean? I call BS, but does their degree from Hartford just to play lacrosse really have Fortune 500 companies lining up to hire them after graduation. I guess you can all sit around talking about the glory days and NCC. #laxlife

Bet you are a snob from CT. Putting down NCC is something a snob does. No wonder your blaming others for your failure.

Nah, I'm a nassau guy so.. you're welcome. Pretty sure my taxes fund that place. What does the union have lined up for you tomorrow?

Says the guy who can't even capitalize Nassau. Seems like you scored pretty low on the education front. Maybe dial it back and go hug your kid who hates you.

Blatant tournament in 2 weeks...Lets see who shows up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wall Street is loaded with college lacrosse players. Had 3 kids play and everyone was offered top paying jobs by numerous companies. One very high academic, other 2 average. If you do not think NCAA athletes have an advantage coming out of school then your just not in touch with reality.

And if you’re kid isn’t interested in a 60hr/wk Wall Street job?

One of my kids got a job with large construction company down south, and was supervisor in 6 months. this is all because of lax connections. He is 26 making 120k a year already.
He did not go to school for a major. He went to play lacrosse, at least that's what staff told him. When choosing a school look into the ones that work very closely with Alumni. Whether your kid plays four years or never dose.
If they work hard they will be successful. Old School Kids are thriving, Not the everyone gets a trophies kids.

Everyone way too wrapped in the Lax Culture. Play the game, enjoy it and let it be what it will be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wall Street is loaded with college lacrosse players. Had 3 kids play and everyone was offered top paying jobs by numerous companies. One very high academic, other 2 average. If you do not think NCAA athletes have an advantage coming out of school then your just not in touch with reality.

And if you’re kid isn’t interested in a 60hr/wk Wall Street job?

One of my kids got a job with large construction company down south, and was supervisor in 6 months. this is all because of lax connections. He is 26 making 120k a year already.
He did not go to school for a major. He went to play lacrosse, at least that's what staff told him. When choosing a school look into the ones that work very closely with Alumni. Whether your kid plays four years or never dose.
If they work hard they will be successful. Old School Kids are thriving, Not the everyone gets a trophies kids.

Nurses graduating from Molloy making that right out the door.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wall Street is loaded with college lacrosse players. Had 3 kids play and everyone was offered top paying jobs by numerous companies. One very high academic, other 2 average. If you do not think NCAA athletes have an advantage coming out of school then your just not in touch with reality.

And if you’re kid isn’t interested in a 60hr/wk Wall Street job?

One of my kids got a job with large construction company down south, and was supervisor in 6 months. this is all because of lax connections. He is 26 making 120k a year already.
He did not go to school for a major. He went to play lacrosse, at least that's what staff told him. When choosing a school look into the ones that work very closely with Alumni. Whether your kid plays four years or never dose.
If they work hard they will be successful. Old School Kids are thriving, Not the everyone gets a trophies kids.

Nurses graduating from Molloy making that right out the door.

Male nurse snob.

60 Hours a week on wall street. Work 15 years and Retire.

This is a lax forum. Take your differences elsewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wall Street is loaded with college lacrosse players. Had 3 kids play and everyone was offered top paying jobs by numerous companies. One very high academic, other 2 average. If you do not think NCAA athletes have an advantage coming out of school then your just not in touch with reality.

And if you’re kid isn’t interested in a 60hr/wk Wall Street job?

One of my kids got a job with large construction company down south, and was supervisor in 6 months. this is all because of lax connections. He is 26 making 120k a year already.
He did not go to school for a major. He went to play lacrosse, at least that's what staff told him. When choosing a school look into the ones that work very closely with Alumni. Whether your kid plays four years or never dose.
If they work hard they will be successful. Old School Kids are thriving, Not the everyone gets a trophies kids.

Nurses graduating from Molloy making that right out the door.

Plus OT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wall Street is loaded with college lacrosse players. Had 3 kids play and everyone was offered top paying jobs by numerous companies. One very high academic, other 2 average. If you do not think NCAA athletes have an advantage coming out of school then your just not in touch with reality.

If all your kids are out of college and working. Why are you in a high school lax forum. I smell BS

Laxachusetts black is nice tho

No BS, I am retired and living the life. Love Back Of The Cage, just trying to give some sound advice. Take it or leave it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before 2025 tryouts, families should have decided what the end game is for continuing with club lacrosse. 5 to 7k all in for club, is a lot to ask if you're just hanging on for fun. If your son really wants to play in college, and as a parent most likely paying for that privilege, there is a college team for almost everyone. Very few from Long Island will ever play at large D1 program. Certainly smaller D1 programs, D2, D3 and MCLA are all options. The real question that families must honestly answer is exactly what you'll sacrifice just to play lacrosse in college (no judgements). The better club programs will give you some exposure, but quite frankly most of the legwork is the family realistically finding out where their player can and should play. Individual showcases, prospect days, letters, etc, all part of the process. You cannot let the college coaches phone call to your club coach be the deciding factor. Club coaches are human, play favorites, favor home towns.

Sounds like your son is not on a elite AA team. Nothing personal or fugaze. For my two older sons the elite AA teams successfully converted all of the above and more. Both played D1 and both were second line pole and mids until the end. Elite coaching and reps got them there. Both started on their high school due to elite club team. If you are not elite you are outside looking in. Measure elite by coaching, track record, and quality of practice.

Elite AA, what does that even mean? I call BS, but does their degree from Hartford just to play lacrosse really have Fortune 500 companies lining up to hire them after graduation. I guess you can all sit around talking about the glory days and NCC. #laxlife

Bet you are a snob from CT. Putting down NCC is something a snob does. No wonder your blaming others for your failure.

Nah, I'm a nassau guy so.. you're welcome. Pretty sure my taxes fund that place. What does the union have lined up for you tomorrow?

Says the guy who can't even capitalize Nassau. Seems like you scored pretty low on the education front. Maybe dial it back and go hug your kid who hates you.

lol. easy lax mommy. what grade do you teach?

Every once in a while this thread derails and this is one of those times. Folks, keep is classy and respectful.

Seriously! Bash the clubs, not each other!

Okay, but just for clarification, the guy who bashes union workers, yet can't write a coherent statement on an anonymous lacrosse forum, then tries to deflect away from his lack of class and education by digging a deeper hole, should not be given the slightest pass.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, but just for clarification, the guy who bashes union workers, yet can't write a coherent statement on an anonymous lacrosse forum, then tries to deflect away from his lack of class and education by digging a deeper hole, should not be given the slightest pass.

you must be the foreman. Congrats.

The whole point of my original post, was college athletes benefit from participating in athletics. Nothing else, again it’s a fact. This is my third post. Someone else, not very educated is on my coat tails.

You are 1 million % correct !!! Jobs in sales and trading across Wall Street are filled with college athletes!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay, but just for clarification, the guy who bashes union workers, yet can't write a coherent statement on an anonymous lacrosse forum, then tries to deflect away from his lack of class and education by digging a deeper hole, should not be given the slightest pass.

you must be the foreman. Congrats.

Typical Wall Street, coked up and drunk 24/7, kid never sees you, when he does you’re a hungover mess. Sad.

Whats with this Igloo "World Series Team Tryout" banner on this site? Whats that all about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats with this Igloo "World Series Team Tryout" banner on this site? Whats that all about?

Just another way Igloo has screwed people for $$$$. You tryout and make their 2027 team only to find out later that the WSYL tournament is an additional tryout and separate team. The only team from LI that I can recall doing something like that was Regulators but they were clear that the team was assembled to compete primarily at WSYL. Regs didn't get very far, but at least they were open and honest. Something that Igloo hasn't been is honest and transparent, especially for their 2025 group.

So if your son made the 2027 team he isnt necessarily assured a spot on the "WSYL team" And the Director gets to pound the parents for dual-tuition if the kid makes both teams? That is a total SCAM. RUN FOR THE HILLS or get out your checkbook. Sheesh...I heard they punked all of the kids that have been there for years. Sad

I'll take "SCAM" for $200 Chuck..............

Come on, did parents from outside Igloo actually sign their kids up? I don’t believe that for even a minute.
They must have just been looking for older but eligible kids or something like when Leg a sea did it.
Someone has to know, did they add any new kids?

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

Also not only do they have 45 kids they have inherited some real winner parents .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, did parents from outside Igloo actually sign their kids up? I don’t believe that for even a minute.
They must have just been looking for older but eligible kids or something like when Leg a sea did it.
Someone has to know, did they add any new kids?

What Igloo group are you asking about 2025 or 2027? I will answer for both. 2027 has over 30 kids that will compete at some point for only 24 spots on their WSYL team but not play for regular team. The 2025 program is has over 40 kids but some are A team, few are B team and most are both. How would that even work? They're all college recruits so it will all work out so pay up and don't ask questions. Didn't stick around to see how it all unfolds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, did parents from outside Igloo actually sign their kids up? I don’t believe that for even a minute.
They must have just been looking for older but eligible kids or something like when Leg a sea did it.
Someone has to know, did they add any new kids?

What Igloo group are you asking about 2025 or 2027? I will answer for both. 2027 has over 30 kids that will compete at some point for only 24 spots on their WSYL team but not play for regular team. The 2025 program is has over 40 kids but some are A team, few are B team and most are both. How would that even work? They're all college recruits so it will all work out so pay up and don't ask questions. Didn't stick around to see how it all unfolds.

40 kids A / B / Both is still probably better than being on a team of 30 kids like 91, Express, Regulators, Rebels

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, did parents from outside Igloo actually sign their kids up? I don’t believe that for even a minute.
They must have just been looking for older but eligible kids or something like when Leg a sea did it.
Someone has to know, did they add any new kids?

What Igloo group are you asking about 2025 or 2027? I will answer for both. 2027 has over 30 kids that will compete at some point for only 24 spots on their WSYL team but not play for regular team. The 2025 program is has over 40 kids but some are A team, few are B team and most are both. How would that even work? They're all college recruits so it will all work out so pay up and don't ask questions. Didn't stick around to see how it all unfolds.

40 kids A / B / Both is still probably better than being on a team of 30 kids like 91, Express, Regulators, Rebels

I think the majority would disagree

Do you want to be executed via electric chair or by firing squad? Its really the same question.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you want to be executed via electric chair or by firing squad? Its really the same question.....

Exactly

Can I confirm math works on BOTC?
40 kids divided by 2 teams = 20 kids per team
30 kids divided by 1 team = 30 kids per team
Why is it better to be on a team with 10 more kids?
Firing squad please.

Poetry. Can the Penguin wear one of those Black hoods when he takes your money?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I confirm math works on BOTC?
40 kids divided by 2 teams = 20 kids per team
30 kids divided by 1 team = 30 kids per team
Why is it better to be on a team with 10 more kids?
Firing squad please.

The problem is that the directors don't really care about the bottom 20 of the 40 (the same way they don't care about the bottom 12 of the 30). Parents need to grip reality when it comes to their kids skill level. If they "haven't picked up a stick since July" (heard this at a recent 40 kid practice and not injury-related), they probably don't belong on a AA team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I confirm math works on BOTC?
40 kids divided by 2 teams = 20 kids per team
30 kids divided by 1 team = 30 kids per team
Why is it better to be on a team with 10 more kids?
Firing squad please.

Promises made promises broken. Over 40 kids were taken and told they made the A team. Half the former B team walked away because of an ugly incident during tryouts with a director who has no business being involved with children or parents. That's the real story that you'll never hear.

YOWSA!!! And condolences to all those parents that feel little Johnny is now on an "A" team....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

From what I've seen, FLG is more a B/B- team. Going for A players is always good though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

From what I've seen, FLG is more a B/B- team. Going for A players is always good though.

You people are ridiculous. Call FLG whatever team you want, they are still looking for 1-2 solid/good players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

Really? That was a premier club a little while back and I find it surprising, if true, they are looking for players in Oct. My guess is Igloo parents lit up their inbox by now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

Really? That was a premier club a little while back and I find it surprising, if true, they are looking for players in Oct. My guess is Igloo parents lit up their inbox by now.

Igloo parents/kids should go to FLG (or equal). At this point, what's the downside?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

Really? That was a premier club a little while back and I find it surprising, if true, they are looking for players in Oct. My guess is Igloo parents lit up their inbox by now.

Igloo parents/kids should go to FLG (or equal). At this point, what's the downside?!

I couldn't agree more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

Really? That was a premier club a little while back and I find it surprising, if true, they are looking for players in Oct. My guess is Igloo parents lit up their inbox by now.

Igloo parents/kids should go to FLG (or equal). At this point, what's the downside?!

I couldn't agree more.

Is FLG any better than where they are stuck now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

Really? That was a premier club a little while back and I find it surprising, if true, they are looking for players in Oct. My guess is Igloo parents lit up their inbox by now.

Igloo parents/kids should go to FLG (or equal). At this point, what's the downside?!

I couldn't agree more.

Is FLG any better than where they are stuck now?

Igloo doesn't have enough to field a B team, so I would say yes.

Empire is the team you want to be on. its not an AA team but they're pretty competitive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire is the team you want to be on. its not an AA team but they're pretty competitive

Never heard of them. Are they competitive in the C bracket? (sorry, I couldn't resist)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 45 kids all practicing together Nobody knows which kid is on which team. Parents fuming. Enjoy the show

FLG is looking for 1-2 more middies (A/B+ players). Pass the word.

From what I've seen, FLG is more a B/B- team. Going for A players is always good though.

You people are ridiculous. Call FLG whatever team you want, they are still looking for 1-2 solid/good players.

What team is ever going to say they’re looking B/C players? Of course they’re looking for A players. Doesn’t mean they will get them

You are all amazing, critiquing other programs, putting down B/C players as if your superstar A player has a golden road to college. Speak with the 23s right now. A ton of outstanding players are struggling to get looks and their helicopter parents are freaking! Read the tea leaves, that’s you in 23 months.

And those B/C players you feel sorry for - most are playing because they enjoy the game, it’s not as a road to recruiting. I bet they are happier playing than your sons are.

Every team always looking for A players... And Ben Franklin...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire is the team you want to be on. its not an AA team but they're pretty competitive

Never heard of them. Are they competitive in the C bracket? (sorry, I couldn't resist)

You know why you couldn't resist... Because you're a small minded stunad. Why, why would you feel the need to say something like that? They are a solid B team, that's what they are. But, I guess it made you feel better to put them down.

we just joined empire and my son likes the team and coaches a lot. that's all i could ask for. love seeing him happy and wanting to go to practice. good luck and i hope all the kids/parents are happy for whoever they're playing for

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

In theory, great plan. But those A players, the ones who made the team are not going to be that anxious to play with the B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Yeah, I'm sure that's gonna work out just great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

They brought down some of their A kids last summer and we still beat them. It's a shame what's happening over there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

They brought down some of their A kids last summer and we still beat them. It's a shame what's happening over there.

This is absolute untrue, no A team kids were brought down. You people really need to a life it’s club lacrosse nobody is gonna care in a few years much less next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

They brought down some of their A kids last summer and we still beat them. It's a shame what's happening over there.

This is absolute untrue, no A team kids were brought down. You people really need to a life it’s club lacrosse nobody is gonna care in a few years much less next year.

Oh come on now, if they weren't from the A team then there were guest players there from other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

They brought down some of their A kids last summer and we still beat them. It's a shame what's happening over there.

This is absolute untrue, no A team kids were brought down. You people really need to a life it’s club lacrosse nobody is gonna care in a few years much less next year.

Jeez you Igloo people are easily offended. Maybe if you weren't too busy writing checks to your owner you wouldn't have such a short fuse. You are correct, nobody cares about Igloo this year, next year or last year. You haven't won a thing at 2025, maybe that's why you have a 40 man roster.

DONEGLOO Where Lax dreams go to die...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we just joined empire and my son likes the team and coaches a lot. that's all i could ask for. love seeing him happy and wanting to go to practice. good luck and i hope all the kids/parents are happy for whoever they're playing for

I feel like I heard that Empire got some new coaches in the past couple years and that the team has gotten a lot better. I've only heard good things. My son tried out for them and was offered a spot, but we just went in a different direction. I'd recommend Empire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we just joined empire and my son likes the team and coaches a lot. that's all i could ask for. love seeing him happy and wanting to go to practice. good luck and i hope all the kids/parents are happy for whoever they're playing for

I feel like I heard that Empire got some new coaches in the past couple years and that the team has gotten a lot better. I've only heard good things. My son tried out for them and was offered a spot, but we just went in a different direction. I'd recommend Empire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

In theory, great plan. But those A players, the ones who made the team are not going to be that anxious to play with the B team.

I don't think that's true. My son will play lacrosse with ANY team, any day, any time. There are a lot of kids like that.

Igloo a mess Lets see if they play Blatant this weekend and how that goes

Blatant has 4 of top 6 teams on island. Need 91 and iglioo to join. Step up

Igloo is banned. They too busy adding more kids to bring their roster to 50 kids...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we just joined empire and my son likes the team and coaches a lot. that's all i could ask for. love seeing him happy and wanting to go to practice. good luck and i hope all the kids/parents are happy for whoever they're playing for

I feel like I heard that Empire got some new coaches in the past couple years and that the team has gotten a lot better. I've only heard good things. My son tried out for them and was offered a spot, but we just went in a different direction. I'd recommend Empire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

In theory, great plan. But those A players, the ones who made the team are not going to be that anxious to play with the B team.

I don't think that's true. My son will play lacrosse with ANY team, any day, any time. There are a lot of kids like that.

There are some, but I have seen first hand a player choose to stand on the sideline of the A team vs going to play with the B team. I don’t agree with it, but it’s all mindset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

did the hornets bring back most of their team from last season or were they replaced?

There were a lot of changes

why were there a lot of changes? i thought the team played very well last year. what kind of changes were made?

Looking to make improvements I suppose and try and take a step up.

Express and 91 scrimmaged on Sunday and it was a one goal game.Two very solid B teams.

And both teams can clean up a lot and be even better. That scrimmage was very sloppy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we just joined empire and my son likes the team and coaches a lot. that's all i could ask for. love seeing him happy and wanting to go to practice. good luck and i hope all the kids/parents are happy for whoever they're playing for

I feel like I heard that Empire got some new coaches in the past couple years and that the team has gotten a lot better. I've only heard good things. My son tried out for them and was offered a spot, but we just went in a different direction. I'd recommend Empire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

In theory, great plan. But those A players, the ones who made the team are not going to be that anxious to play with the B team.

I don't think that's true. My son will play lacrosse with ANY team, any day, any time. There are a lot of kids like that.

There are some, but I have seen first hand a player choose to stand on the sideline of the A team vs going to play with the B team. I don’t agree with it, but it’s all mindset.

Your club team has to match your ability and college goals.

Before your family invests in a premium-level club, do your research, contact your high school coach and kids in the area who have gone on to play at the next level. Then ask yourself how committed you are to the game? A premium club team will ask for a lot of time and commitment, and you have to be ready for that.

You can also find a nice home at mid-tier club that might be a little more regional or local – not a non-competitive club, but just like college, a different level. That being said, club lacrosse is not bad! But do your homework and don’t just chase the helmet, which is a common mistake made by lacrosse players experiencing the recruiting process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we just joined empire and my son likes the team and coaches a lot. that's all i could ask for. love seeing him happy and wanting to go to practice. good luck and i hope all the kids/parents are happy for whoever they're playing for

I feel like I heard that Empire got some new coaches in the past couple years and that the team has gotten a lot better. I've only heard good things. My son tried out for them and was offered a spot, but we just went in a different direction. I'd recommend Empire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will field a B team. And bring down kids from the A to serve double duty. A win for the kids playing both. A loss for the kids that are slated for B

Will it make the parents feel better who wrote the checks thinking they're playing on the A team? What happens when both team have tournament same days? I guess next you'll tell me there will be no conflicts because this was all planned out in advance, wink wink. I can't wait to see the post from Igloo bragging about winning B tournaments. At least they'll have something to brag about. #winning

In theory, great plan. But those A players, the ones who made the team are not going to be that anxious to play with the B team.

I don't think that's true. My son will play lacrosse with ANY team, any day, any time. There are a lot of kids like that.

There are some, but I have seen first hand a player choose to stand on the sideline of the A team vs going to play with the B team. I don’t agree with it, but it’s all mindset.

Your club team has to match your ability and college goals.

Before your family invests in a premium-level club, do your research, contact your high school coach and kids in the area who have gone on to play at the next level. Then ask yourself how committed you are to the game? A premium club team will ask for a lot of time and commitment, and you have to be ready for that.

You can also find a nice home at mid-tier club that might be a little more regional or local – not a non-competitive club, but just like college, a different level. That being said, club lacrosse is not bad! But do your homework and don’t just chase the helmet, which is a common mistake made by lacrosse players experiencing the recruiting process.

Yes, please go to the HS coach, who has nothing better to do than answer your silly questions about "club". Please do that, start dropping terms like "premium club team" would love to see how that affects his playing time. Keep us posted, it sounds genius.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And both teams can clean up a lot and be even better. That scrimmage was very sloppy.

A lot penalties. Both teams have several new players and will likely get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And both teams can clean up a lot and be even better. That scrimmage was very sloppy.

A lot penalties. Both teams have several new players and will likely get better.

Decent B lineup at Blatant. Epic Jokers, Express, Legrush experiment, rumored re-tooled Rush, and Icon

Can we stop with the AA and A divisions. Call them what they are A and B and really bad B team divisions. Are we that woke that we can't call a second tier team a B team, or is it that the so called elite teams want to be listed as AA? Either way it's annoying IMHO. And for all the haters out there, yes I have a Yukon XL with the team magnet, yes I have a red solo cup, no I never sit quietly on the sideline.

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we stop with the AA and A divisions. Call them what they are A and B and really bad B team divisions. Are we that woke that we can't call a second tier team a B team, or is it that the so called elite teams want to be listed as AA? Either way it's annoying IMHO. And for all the haters out there, yes I have a Yukon XL with the team magnet, yes I have a red solo cup, no I never sit quietly on the sideline.

Best post in quite some time. So true!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Try to keep up. A few years ago 2025 Millon Force was a lower level A team as was Igloo. Millon folded their 2025 because the coaches kid (who was the best on team) went to another program. A lot of those Force kids wound up on the roster of Igloo. Did it make them better, maybe slightly, but they still haven't won anything as a team at 2025. All it left them was a bloated roster and an AA-- designation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Try to keep up. A few years ago 2025 Millon Force was a lower level A team as was Igloo. Millon folded their 2025 because the coaches kid (who was the best on team) went to another program. A lot of those Force kids wound up on the roster of Igloo. Did it make them better, maybe slightly, but they still haven't won anything as a team at 2025. All it left them was a bloated roster and an AA-- designation.

No more AA -- Only A!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Try to keep up. A few years ago 2025 Millon Force was a lower level A team as was Igloo. Millon folded their 2025 because the coaches kid (who was the best on team) went to another program. A lot of those Force kids wound up on the roster of Igloo. Did it make them better, maybe slightly, but they still haven't won anything as a team at 2025. All it left them was a bloated roster and an AA-- designation.

No more AA -- Only A!

Only 2 A level clubs on LI. Express and 91.
Igloo is way outside followed by the rest of the bunch (rebels, Regs, Legacy, S2S). FLG nowhere to be found.

People will say it doesn't matter so much since this is a transitional year to recruiting but if you aren't playing for one of the big clubs it get increasingly difficult. There are national showcase teams of course it thats the route you choose. On the flip side not everyone playing club lacrosse is in it to be recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Try to keep up. A few years ago 2025 Millon Force was a lower level A team as was Igloo. Millon folded their 2025 because the coaches kid (who was the best on team) went to another program. A lot of those Force kids wound up on the roster of Igloo. Did it make them better, maybe slightly, but they still haven't won anything as a team at 2025. All it left them was a bloated roster and an AA-- designation.

No more AA -- Only A!

Only 2 A level clubs on LI. Express and 91.
Igloo is way outside followed by the rest of the bunch (rebels, Regs, Legacy, S2S). FLG nowhere to be found.

People will say it doesn't matter so much since this is a transitional year to recruiting but if you aren't playing for one of the big clubs it get increasingly difficult. There are national showcase teams of course it thats the route you choose. On the flip side not everyone playing club lacrosse is in it to be recruited.

So what you are saying that if you are not on 91 / express then teams will not recruit you ... well i will tell you this you have zero clue about the recruiting process just becuase your kid is on those teams does not translate to being recruited ... last time i checked you have to perform and be on the field good luck with those big long benches .....you can tell Tillman , Breschi , and Danowski that you can fill a great water bottle

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Try to keep up. A few years ago 2025 Millon Force was a lower level A team as was Igloo. Millon folded their 2025 because the coaches kid (who was the best on team) went to another program. A lot of those Force kids wound up on the roster of Igloo. Did it make them better, maybe slightly, but they still haven't won anything as a team at 2025. All it left them was a bloated roster and an AA-- designation.

No more AA -- Only A!

Only 2 A level clubs on LI. Express and 91.
Igloo is way outside followed by the rest of the bunch (rebels, Regs, Legacy, S2S). FLG nowhere to be found.

People will say it doesn't matter so much since this is a transitional year to recruiting but if you aren't playing for one of the big clubs it get increasingly difficult. There are national showcase teams of course it thats the route you choose. On the flip side not everyone playing club lacrosse is in it to be recruited.

So what you are saying that if you are not on 91 / express then teams will not recruit you ... well i will tell you this you have zero clue about the recruiting process just becuase your kid is on those teams does not translate to being recruited ... last time i checked you have to perform and be on the field good luck with those big long benches .....you can tell Tillman , Breschi , and Danowski that you can fill a great water bottle

You are absolutely correct! Take a look at how many Legacy and True Blue kids are committing. Also, don't let anyone tell you that you won't or can't be recruited if you are on a second team in an organization. My sons team had 24 or 26 kids go on to play college lacrosse, 17 of them went to D1 schools. The two that didn't play made the choice to choose academics over lacrosse and went to better academic schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Try to keep up. A few years ago 2025 Millon Force was a lower level A team as was Igloo. Millon folded their 2025 because the coaches kid (who was the best on team) went to another program. A lot of those Force kids wound up on the roster of Igloo. Did it make them better, maybe slightly, but they still haven't won anything as a team at 2025. All it left them was a bloated roster and an AA-- designation.

No more AA -- Only A!

Only 2 A level clubs on LI. Express and 91.
Igloo is way outside followed by the rest of the bunch (rebels, Regs, Legacy, S2S). FLG nowhere to be found.

People will say it doesn't matter so much since this is a transitional year to recruiting but if you aren't playing for one of the big clubs it get increasingly difficult. There are national showcase teams of course it thats the route you choose. On the flip side not everyone playing club lacrosse is in it to be recruited.

So what you are saying that if you are not on 91 / express then teams will not recruit you ... well i will tell you this you have zero clue about the recruiting process just becuase your kid is on those teams does not translate to being recruited ... last time i checked you have to perform and be on the field good luck with those big long benches .....you can tell Tillman , Breschi , and Danowski that you can fill a great water bottle

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of those "B" teams would beat the "self proclaimed" A teams. Blatant couldnt get many teams for this tournament from what I see. No 91... No Forcegloo, etc

Can someone tell me why Igloo is called "Forcegloo"?

Try to keep up. A few years ago 2025 Millon Force was a lower level A team as was Igloo. Millon folded their 2025 because the coaches kid (who was the best on team) went to another program. A lot of those Force kids wound up on the roster of Igloo. Did it make them better, maybe slightly, but they still haven't won anything as a team at 2025. All it left them was a bloated roster and an AA-- designation.

No more AA -- Only A!

Only 2 A level clubs on LI. Express and 91.
Igloo is way outside followed by the rest of the bunch (rebels, Regs, Legacy, S2S). FLG nowhere to be found.

People will say it doesn't matter so much since this is a transitional year to recruiting but if you aren't playing for one of the big clubs it get increasingly difficult. There are national showcase teams of course it thats the route you choose. On the flip side not everyone playing club lacrosse is in it to be recruited.

So what you are saying that if you are not on 91 / express then teams will not recruit you ... well i will tell you this you have zero clue about the recruiting process just becuase your kid is on those teams does not translate to being recruited ... last time i checked you have to perform and be on the field good luck with those big long benches .....you can tell Tillman , Breschi , and Danowski that you can fill a great water bottle

Hey angry guy, go back and read what the poster actually said. I believe they were 2 separate points. Last I checked all the clubs on LI carry at least 25 to 30 kids so what short bench are you actually on. Perhaps you meant short bus.

As we get closer to recruiting, how could the clubs justify carrying 26-30 kids? At least on Chansters team you know that if you aren't on the first 15, you won't play very much. Is it the same at Igloo and Rebels and Regulators?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As we get closer to recruiting, how could the clubs justify carrying 26-30 kids? At least on Chansters team you know that if you aren't on the first 15, you won't play very much. Is it the same at Igloo and Rebels and Regulators?

From what I’ve seen from the 2022’s is that the split the team up when they get closer to recruiting. The name of the team is still the same (Express CoachC) but not all the kids go to all the tournaments/showcases. As kids verbally commit they tend to play in less tournaments. The 2022 year was a little late with commitments due to Covid. Once my son committed he only played 2 more times. But the team played 4 more times. The 2023 class seems to be committing fast. They will focus the spring/ summer on the kids that did not commit. The commits will still play but not as much.

What’s going on with CoachC??? Lost to Legarush at Blatant today? Not a good sign for Express. Legarush is not a top tier club.

Channys back! Champs.

"Liked CoachC back as Champs" just in time for LegaRush to send kids to the B Team to Win that B bracket.

Isn’t that the norm for express, bring kids down to win?

AA games were all good. Yes legacy sent 4-6 kids to play With B including FO. Kind of BS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channys back! Champs.

It case you are curious they have a new coaching staff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Liked CoachC back as Champs" just in time for LegaRush to send kids to the B Team to Win that B bracket.

Then they post it on social media with help wanted message

Legacy B team stacked with A players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channys back! Champs.

I'm sure their fogo loved making room for the one who is a year older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channys back! Champs.

I'm sure their fogo loved making room for the one who is a year older.

And , so it begins….

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channys back! Champs.

I'm sure their fogo loved making room for the one who is a year older.

Nice excuse Legacy/Rush/Ducks mom. No holdbacks here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

C’mon not a Rebels parent. They competed well in both divisions, why tear them down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

C’mon not a Rebels parent. They competed well in both divisions, why tear them down?

They finished nearly dead last in all stats, so I guess your definition of "competed" means something different than mine.

Yeah but he uniforms were nice..... oh wait...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

C’mon not a Rebels parent. They competed well in both divisions, why tear them down?

They finished nearly dead last in all stats, so I guess your definition of "competed" means something different than mine.

It is. Losing and getting blown out are different, but that’s just me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

C’mon not a Rebels parent. They competed well in both divisions, why tear them down?

They finished nearly dead last in all stats, so I guess your definition of "competed" means something different than mine.

It is. Losing and getting blown out are different, but that’s just me.

They still have nice helmets though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

C’mon not a Rebels parent. They competed well in both divisions, why tear them down?

They finished nearly dead last in all stats, so I guess your definition of "competed" means something different than mine.

It is. Losing and getting blown out are different, but that’s just me.

They still have nice helmets though.

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

Legrush experiment was definitely improvement for the B team vs last summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

C’mon not a Rebels parent. They competed well in both divisions, why tear them down?

They finished nearly dead last in all stats, so I guess your definition of "competed" means something different than mine.

It is. Losing and getting blown out are different, but that’s just me.

They still have nice helmets though.

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

When you look at all the big clubs on Long Island, the entire Rebels program has to be at the bottom of the list, no?

Express B v Legacy B was a great game. All the boys played hard and it was fun to watch. If guest players were there it wasn’t a huge advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

When you look at all the big clubs on Long Island, the entire Rebels program has to be at the bottom of the list, no?

Sorry, Igloo owns the title for worst run program on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

When you look at all the big clubs on Long Island, the entire Rebels program has to be at the bottom of the list, no?

Sorry, Igloo owns the title for worst run program on LI

Takes a little time. 2 years ago rebels wasn't considered one of the "Big Clubs" Now they are considered by everyone and fight for spots #3-5 They are still in their 3rd or 4th year and all other younger teams that they created are very good.

Clearly an Igloo parent of a kid that doesn’t play much. Move on if you’re not happy. Complaining to other parents is a waste of everyone’s time. MOVE ON!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly an Igloo parent of a kid that doesn’t play much. Move on if you’re not happy. Complaining to other parents is a waste of everyone’s time. MOVE ON!!

Clearly struck a nerve. Actually did move on to an organization that won't promise the world but will keep their word. Good luck with the used car salesman, unfortunately the lemon law doesn't apply to club lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

C’mon not a Rebels parent. They competed well in both divisions, why tear them down?

They finished nearly dead last in all stats, so I guess your definition of "competed" means something different than mine.

It is. Losing and getting blown out are different, but that’s just me.

They still have nice helmets though.

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

At least we got something. What is your club doing, giving you a link to their team store? Telling you it's all inclusive than jacking up the price $1000? Practicing in Queens, lol. Give it a rest, you're clearly jealous.

What you got was abused: On the field and off of it. Put the sweatshirt over your head to hide your face. Embarassing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

When you look at all the big clubs on Long Island, the entire Rebels program has to be at the bottom of the list, no?

Sorry, Igloo owns the title for worst run program on LI

Takes a little time. 2 years ago rebels wasn't considered one of the "Big Clubs" Now they are considered by everyone and fight for spots #3-5 They are still in their 3rd or 4th year and all other younger teams that they created are very good.

Let's not forget the Outlaws were a year or two away from folding when they had the great idea to rebrand as Rebels.

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them![/quote]
At least we got something. What is your club doing, giving you a link to their team store? Telling you it's all inclusive than jacking up the price $1000? Practicing in Queens, lol. Give it a rest, you're clearly jealous.[/quote]

Spoken like a true SUCKER. Hook line and sinker they got you. Remember your organization is owned by an apparel company. If you don't think you are paying for every last bit of each and every piece of "swag" you get...You are sadly mistaken.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

At least we got something. What is your club doing, giving you a link to their team store? Telling you it's all inclusive than jacking up the price $1000? Practicing in Queens, lol. Give it a rest, you're clearly jealous.[/quote]

Spoken like a true SUCKER. Hook line and sinker they got you. Remember your organization is owned by an apparel company. If you don't think you are paying for every last bit of each and every piece of "swag" you get...You are sadly mistaken.[/quote]

Obviously they are paying for it, it’s a business… are they supposed to give it away for free. It would be included in tuition, but since they make it they can give more of it. Pretty simple economics. I am sure rebels aren’t for everyone, but they are definitely trending up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Rebels teams (A&B) went 1-6 combines. Ouch!

And the parents get a "FREE" sweatshirt when you register so they have that goin for them!

When you look at all the big clubs on Long Island, the entire Rebels program has to be at the bottom of the list, no?

Sorry, Igloo owns the title for worst run program on LI

Takes a little time. 2 years ago rebels wasn't considered one of the "Big Clubs" Now they are considered by everyone and fight for spots #3-5 They are still in their 3rd or 4th year and all other younger teams that they created are very good.

Let's not forget the Outlaws were a year or two away from folding when they had the great idea to rebrand as Rebels.

Outlaws owned by DZ and did fold. Rebels owned by MB, and Rebels is his first and only club. Blatant and crew all do an awesome job, they really care and work on it full time- give it a rest.

Legacy/ Rush coaching staff is ridiculous
Zummo, Jeffares , Konan, Haugen ,Kieran Mccardle , Foley , Sean Sconone goalie. I can’t imagine another travel team or even high school with that kind of sideline. Plus NOTB box lacrosse with Mike Taylor and his staff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy/ Rush coaching staff is ridiculous
Zummo, Jeffares , Konan, Haugen ,Kieran Mccardle , Foley , Sean Sconone goalie. I can’t imagine another travel team or even high school with that kind of sideline. Plus NOTB box lacrosse with Mike Taylor and his staff.

What's funny about this Legacy/Rush promotion is, 95% of the people on this thread have no idea who these coaches are.

No need to promote at the end of October. Teams tryouts are through the summer. Truth is, that’s a very good staff. Varsity coaches. Plus a PLL player. That sounds like a legit coaching staff to me.

I don't understand the detest on the Rebels. They have a competitive team and the parents and kids seem happy on the sidelines, what's the big deal if they're not going to beat 91, Express or the Jersey, Maryland and New England equivalents? It's all about individual recruitment now anyway. As for Legacy, I don't see how anyone who knows anything about travel lacrosse can look at the lineup of coaches for the 2025s and not agree the Legacy kids are in a great place, especially when it comes to recruitment. Don't be surprised if there's a lot of movement back to Legacy as parents see the handwriting on the wall.

The problem is they lose to town teams and the coaching is horrendous unless you like to watch grown men scream at the refs from opening whistle on.. That team hasnt gotten better since inception. To each thier own I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is they lose to town teams and the coaching is horrendous unless you like to watch grown men scream at the refs from opening whistle on.. That team hasnt gotten better since inception. To each thier own I guess.

They added a second team and get free swag for registration, they're definitely on the right track.

Haugen and Jefares, can you spell Daddy ball?
We’ve seen those two together already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is they lose to town teams and the coaching is horrendous unless you like to watch grown men scream at the refs from opening whistle on.. That team hasnt gotten better since inception. To each thier own I guess.

They added a second team and get free swag for registration, they're definitely on the right track.

On the right track to where? Will they ever beat Express or 91? No. I don't even see them ever beating Regulators, Legacy/Rush or Igloo.

What's this Legacy Rush merger I keep hearing about?

Rebels VS Regulators 5 man ups for Reg 1 Rebels
Pushes without Position or holds 15 plus on Rebels 3,4 on Regulators
Call of too many kids on field when Rebels were actually short one, as they were subbing.
I saw the Film of the game.
Rebels Lost sometimes that's just how it goes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels VS Regulators 5 man ups for Reg 1 Rebels
Pushes without Position or holds 15 plus on Rebels 3,4 on Regulators
Call of too many kids on field when Rebels were actually short one, as they were subbing.
I saw the Film of the game.
Rebels Lost sometimes that's just how it goes.

What?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's this Legacy Rush merger I keep hearing about?

As an outsider, and nobody will believe it. They have two solid teams. So what they won’t be some super elite team. Legacy proved they develop kids and get them recruited.

Every business has a life span. Legacy and rush both on a down slide. Think merger will jump start. Sounds good, let’s see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels VS Regulators 5 man ups for Reg 1 Rebels
Pushes without Position or holds 15 plus on Rebels 3,4 on Regulators
Call of too many kids on field when Rebels were actually short one, as they were subbing.
I saw the Film of the game.
Rebels Lost sometimes that's just how it goes.

Rebels losing to Regulators - that's how it always goes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels VS Regulators 5 man ups for Reg 1 Rebels
Pushes without Position or holds 15 plus on Rebels 3,4 on Regulators
Call of too many kids on field when Rebels were actually short one, as they were subbing.
I saw the Film of the game.
Rebels Lost sometimes that's just how it goes.

Rebels losing to Regulators - that's how it always goes.

Who cares about wins and loses, club feels so saturated. At this point don’t count the goals and penalties. Ask your director how he plans to get your son into these elite invitational events in the next two years. For example, Maverick.

So far from the truth. Legacy has one of the strongest programs boys, girls,box, tournaments and recruiting. Winning t shirts not the answer, draws the wrong parents and they keep jumping all around.

Zummo turned down an opportunity to combine teams for the World Series last that would of have easily qualified. The interest has always been making players better

The parents care because the Directors market the program as "Elite" and an "A" team...Then they get beat by town teams so I think everyone probably cares, even if they dont have the stones to say it......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy/ Rush coaching staff is ridiculous
Zummo, Jeffares , Konan, Haugen ,Kieran Mccardle , Foley , Sean Sconone goalie. I can’t imagine another travel team or even high school with that kind of sideline. Plus NOTB box lacrosse with Mike Taylor and his staff.

Good staff and solid coaches. The 2025 Express staff has a resume that is unmatched.

"Rebels VS Regulators 5 man ups for Reg 1 Rebels
Pushes without Position or holds 15 plus on Rebels 3,4 on Regulators
Call of too many kids on field when Rebels were actually short one, as they were subbing.
I saw the Film of the game.
Rebels Lost sometimes that's just how it goes."

Excuses, excuses. Please stop... L is an L. Weather you hit the pipe, missed the cage 10 times or refs were against you...doesn't change the fact that the team didn't get it done. Loss. Move on. Correct mistakes and don't make them so often in your next game. Coaches need to coach better.

Its like watching a bad movie over and over with that team. We love playing them for the "free win" and for the entertainment value of the coaches screaming and carrying on every game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Rebels VS Regulators 5 man ups for Reg 1 Rebels
Pushes without Position or holds 15 plus on Rebels 3,4 on Regulators
Call of too many kids on field when Rebels were actually short one, as they were subbing.
I saw the Film of the game.
Rebels Lost sometimes that's just how it goes."

Excuses, excuses. Please stop... L is an L. Weather you hit the pipe, missed the cage 10 times or refs were against you...doesn't change the fact that the team didn't get it done. Loss. Move on. Correct mistakes and don't make them so often in your next game. Coaches need to coach better.

Yup, don’t whine

Igloo’s B team made a huge improvement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo’s B team made a huge improvement.

Isnt it pretty much mostly A kids and they dont have enough for 2 different teams?

Rebels chrome playing very short handed today plays Prime time and express to 3 goal games and beats express north. Even better was Rebels Hawks going to finals in NJ and losing in OT. Run Rebels Run. Great stuff

What happened to Regulators? Did kids leave?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo’s B team made a huge improvement.

Laughable. They don't have a B team. There are not enough players for 2 teams so kids play both. Those elite players parents must be so happy for them beating up on teams in a B tourney.

Rebels Chrome ...stop That got Destroyed by CoachC It Wasnt nearly as close as score indicates. Express played all non starters in second half and still punished them. Tranished Chrome was lucky to Survive Exp N and didnt score at all in 2nd half. Not 1 goal. Primetime treated them like a greedy director getting caught double dipping. No Man up goals, no offense, same coaching, same mistakes ...same ol rebels

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo’s B team made a huge improvement.

Laughable. They don't have a B team. There are not enough players for 2 teams so kids play both. Those elite players parents must be so happy for them beating up on teams in a B tourney.

No issue, B players will get to play with better kids and vs better competition. I would just try to enter vs appropriate competition based on the roster that plays. No a big deal if they can pull that off. But imho I would try to set up each tourney roster and bring 20 or so for that tourney and so on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

Says angry Regulators parent. How did they lose to the 26 Express North team too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Chrome ...stop That got Destroyed by CoachC It Wasnt nearly as close as score indicates. Express played all non starters in second half and still punished them. Tranished Chrome was lucky to Survive Exp N and didnt score at all in 2nd half. Not 1 goal. Primetime treated them like a greedy director getting caught double dipping. No Man up goals, no offense, same coaching, same mistakes ...same ol rebels

It was actually new coaching with a lot of goals. Something this team struggled with in past.

Of course it wasn’t as close as score indicates since you are an express parent. You failed to mention that chrome was missing starters across the board from injury and football. Playing with 7 offensive kids. It’s fall ball everyone is playing light. Kids played hard and each team got better. What’s the issue without putting people down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Clearly these people weren't at the tournament. It wasn't even cold out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

Says angry Regulators parent. How did they lose to the 26 Express North team too?

Says the Igloo proud parent who claims his kid is AA but playing against B level teams. Igloo knowingly brought many of their A players and hooted and hollered like the won the WSYL. Too bad they didn’t even make it out of pool play for that one. Great job Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

Says angry Regulators parent. How did they lose to the 26 Express North team too?

Says the Igloo proud parent who claims his kid is AA but playing against B level teams. Igloo knowingly brought many of their A players and hooted and hollered like the won the WSYL. Too bad they didn’t even make it out of pool play for that one. Great job Igloo.

what tournament is this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Clearly these people weren't at the tournament. It wasn't even cold out.

But you did bring your A players

They brought and played their A players. That is pathetic. Time to find a new team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

So, do the Regulators stink? They lost to 26 Express North and then a team of Igloo A and B players...maybe more A & B/ I think they stink regardless.

Several Regulators left for Team Eclispe to try and qualify for WSYl.. Howd that work out for them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

So, do the Regulators stink? They lost to 26 Express North and then a team of Igloo A and B players...maybe more A & B/ I think they stink regardless.

Last I looked this was fall Lacrosse. Regulators have been rotating new kids into see what they can do including another goalie. Whoever is excited about winning games in the fall that don't matter then you need another hobby.... #getalife

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

Are you the Igloo spokesperson? Is is fair or ethical to bring down a bunch of players to play inferior competition just so you can get the W. We know we're a B team that is why we played in this tournament. The only thing sour is playing down in tournaments just to feed your owners ego.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

AA is a laxer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

Your missing the point here. They are entering an A team into a B tournament. That is a waste of everyone's time and money, Igloo and their opponents. No one gets anything out of it. All this is is a way for Igloo to get their kids a free hat or t-shirt and pound their chests on social media claiming another tournament victory...They are not fooling anyone!

AA is a stunad maybe you’ll realize it sooner than later. Strict business guy. Cares less about kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

Your missing the point here. They are entering an A team into a B tournament. That is a waste of everyone's time and money, Igloo and their opponents. No one gets anything out of it. All this is is a way for Igloo to get their kids a free hat or t-shirt and pound their chests on social media claiming another tournament victory...They are not fooling anyone!

I hear what both are saying. Good competition will make you better. But if the competition is far superior then it’s a waste. I’m curious to what the scores were. Were any of the game close within 3-4 goals. If so then it was good for both teams. If the scores were blow outs 8-12 point difference then it was a waste for both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

Your missing the point here. They are entering an A team into a B tournament. That is a waste of everyone's time and money, Igloo and their opponents. No one gets anything out of it. All this is is a way for Igloo to get their kids a free hat or t-shirt and pound their chests on social media claiming another tournament victory...They are not fooling anyone!

It seems Igloo and their ownership continue to sink to new lows yet people continue to throw money at them with multiple teams at each grade. Are people that desperate to throw 3 to 5k out the window just to play club lacrosse?. I just don't get it but maybe that's the point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

Your missing the point here. They are entering an A team into a B tournament. That is a waste of everyone's time and money, Igloo and their opponents. No one gets anything out of it. All this is is a way for Igloo to get their kids a free hat or t-shirt and pound their chests on social media claiming another tournament victory...They are not fooling anyone!

It seems Igloo and their ownership continue to sink to new lows yet people continue to throw money at them with multiple teams at each grade. Are people that desperate to throw 3 to 5k out the window just to play club lacrosse?. I just don't get it but maybe that's the point.

Especially when they don't have good coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo? They had 34 kids on sideline and played all the kids from Northface because the "Director" was afraid to lose to "B"teams. Bet there are a lot angry parents this a.m. and 34 kids that didnt play with hypothermia. That club is a trainwreck.

This is an absolute joke just as predicted.

Will the Igloo B players be asked to play in the A tournaments so they can impress the scouts or is the deal all one way?

Why do you care so much about Igloo and what they do? Are your children on this team, if not who cares what they do. So they brought a lot of kids and some were good, that means your kid got challenged. We all want to see our children succeed and win. if my kid has to lose, i would prefer that they lost to a group of good players and were challenged. You can not get better by playing inferior competition.
Now if my kid were to play for Igloo, i would be pissed off for a number of reasons. But I would not mind my kids playing against better competition. I just don't get the detest. If your not spending your $$$ with them, it should not bother you. Unless your Kid was cut from their program, then i could see some sour grapes.

Your missing the point here. They are entering an A team into a B tournament. That is a waste of everyone's time and money, Igloo and their opponents. No one gets anything out of it. All this is is a way for Igloo to get their kids a free hat or t-shirt and pound their chests on social media claiming another tournament victory...They are not fooling anyone!

It seems Igloo and their ownership continue to sink to new lows yet people continue to throw money at them with multiple teams at each grade. Are people that desperate to throw 3 to 5k out the window just to play club lacrosse?. I just don't get it but maybe that's the point.

You seem to have an axe to grind with Igloo. If parents want to throw their money away. That’s their choice. As posted above. If the games were close then no harm. If they were blow outs then igloo needs to do better for their kids and place them in tournaments that they will be challenged. Also it’s fall ball. As someone posted on here a few pages back. Igloo had a lot of turnover. So they probably not 100% sure of what they have. Seems like they are not an A team but better than a B team. Tough spot to be in.

If all the kids played it may be a different story. But you have A team kids taking time away from B team kids. A real classless move...

Anyone else get the maverick invite but told to keep it quiet so not to cause drama? The event operator didn't do any favors by posting next summers event was "sold out!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else get the maverick invite but told to keep it quiet so not to cause drama? The event operator didn't do any favors by posting next summers event was "sold out!"

It’s one showcase out of 50. Who cares anymore about maverick. Best in class. Juniors open. Spotlight. Main stage. One percent. Apex. Future phenoms. Lacrosse masters. Nlf futures. Ecd , the show , and on and on and on. Where does it end Race to no where.

Maverick is by far the Best showcase around but that being said there are many to do and if your son is any good they will find you .... But also you need be in reality as to where your son stands .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maverick is by far the Best showcase around but that being said there are many to do and if your son is any good they will find you .... But also you need be in reality as to where your son stands .....

Agreed. Maverick has been one of the best if not the best. But there are so many good ones. Top players get invited to so many pick and choose wisely. Remember this class is still a few years away from recruiting.

i assume, when the time is right , the best coaches will have a presence at the top 10 showcases , assuming your kid is any good, im sure he will get into a few of the better ones and have more than 1 opportunity to shine

The problem with a lot of these showcases including maverick is the politics. kids show up don't score a goal in 3 games and still make the all-star team- how does this even happen? you see it at almost every event . coaches kid or directors kid shows up, performs average at best and makes the all-star team-

The best "Showcase" is your son's HS team... And the price is right. If your kid is that good they will find him...trust me.. Otherwise your buying Magic beans

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem with a lot of these showcases including maverick is the politics. kids show up don't score a goal in 3 games and still make the all-star team- how does this even happen? you see it at almost every event . coaches kid or directors kid shows up, performs average at best and makes the all-star team-

You do realize some of the best players on the field don't score goals/or getting an assist, right?
Players can make impact plays and show their worth/talent without scoring. Hustle plays like battling for a key loose ball or reaching the end line after a shot.... Setting a pick to free up a shooter.... Causing a turnover to start transition the other way.

I'm not saying politics don't play a role, but scoring isn't the only thing that makes a good player

NLF team rankings 91 Shock at #3 and Express at #11. So much for LI dominance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem with a lot of these showcases including maverick is the politics. kids show up don't score a goal in 3 games and still make the all-star team- how does this even happen? you see it at almost every event . coaches kid or directors kid shows up, performs average at best and makes the all-star team-

You know how it happens. MLB Spotlight was no different. A few standouts for sure,,,,, but lots of politics.

im just saying if your gonna splash all over social media that so and so is the best attackman or best middi etc, and they go out there and perform poorly, maybe they shouldnt be automatically on the all star team etc - 14/15/16 year old kids being given everything regardless

It's hilarious when the "All Stars" or "Players To Watch" lists come out. It's all about who knows who and which daddy is running the program. Or the directors are running it and trying to hype up their own players. But to be honest how could they tell who the best is when they're barely watching the games and honestly don't even care after the checks have cleared.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's hilarious when the "All Stars" or "Players To Watch" lists come out. It's all about who knows who and which daddy is running the program. Or the directors are running it and trying to hype up their own players. But to be honest how could they tell who the best is when they're barely watching the games and honestly don't even care after the checks have cleared.

Live above the line. Why are so many also looking for the worst part or negative in every situation?

Legacy tearing it up at NAL. Guess only reason they get in is cause they run it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best "Showcase" is your son's HS team... And the price is right. If your kid is that good they will find him...trust me.. Otherwise your buying Magic beans

Not even close to being an accurate or true statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy tearing it up at NAL. Guess only reason they get in is cause they run it.

0-5-1 may seem little they were fighting above their weight class, but they competed, not like they were blown out.

BINGO!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy tearing it up at NAL. Guess only reason they get in is cause they run it.

0-5-1 may seem little they were fighting above their weight class, but they competed, not like they were blown out.

One of the worst tournaments. No playoffs and the brackets were completely mis matched. Blown opportunity for some great games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy tearing it up at NAL. Guess only reason they get in is cause they run it.

0-5-1 may seem little they were fighting above their weight class, but they competed, not like they were blown out.

One of the worst tournaments. No playoffs and the brackets were completely mis matched. Blown opportunity for some great games.

Don’t know about the worst. But a lot teams traveled a long way. Why figure out a way to play more games and get more matchups between some of these clubs.

I guess legacy can not invite it’s team back next year after that performance.

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

What do the Igloo parents say? Any of them reading this or are their heads in the sand for the privilege of wearing those new, but very dated, uniforms....?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

Didn’t they go 1-2? And lose both games by either 1 or 2 goals. Not as bad as you make it sound.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

Didn’t they go 1-2? And lose both games by either 1 or 2 goals. Not as bad as you make it sound.

Igloo parent, if you're ok with those results and how your team played than kudos to you. Igloo is not an elite team by any standard and certainly not in the same class as 91 or even express. But hey, they look great when they bring their A team to B tournaments. Are their parents that narcissistic that they think it's worthwhile for them to play in B tournaments and brag about it. The entire organization stinks from the top down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do the Igloo parents say? Any of them reading this or are their heads in the sand for the privilege of wearing those new, but very dated, uniforms....?

what choice do they have at this point? Making the best of it and expect a mass exodus after this season.

When the play A they get smacked. How does the playtime work? All 50 kids are getting in? Its too cold to be standing around in November watching the same 11 kids get peppered

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

Didn’t they go 1-2? And lose both games by either 1 or 2 goals. Not as bad as you make it sound.

Igloo parent, if you're ok with those results and how your team played than kudos to you. Igloo is not an elite team by any standard and certainly not in the same class as 91 or even express. But hey, they look great when they bring their A team to B tournaments. Are their parents that narcissistic that they think it's worthwhile for them to play in B tournaments and brag about it. The entire organization stinks from the top down.

So it was 1-2 with two one goal losses?

What choice? There is always a choice: Simple: Leave and stop paying your quarterly "tuition"... There are a lot of choices...They choose to allow this bum to ruin their kid's self esteem

I think the point is when you call yourself an A team and regularly lose to other A teams it show poorly. Then to compound the problem, you enter a B tournament and play all your A kids at the expense of your B kids...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the point is when you call yourself an A team and regularly lose to other A teams it show poorly. Then to compound the problem, you enter a B tournament and play all your A kids at the expense of your B kids...

I agree with second half of this. Don’t like any ‘A’ team playing in B tourneys. And especially with their set up at the expense of their B kids. But his post about NAL makes it sound like they got blown out, which is far from the actual story. Im not an igloo parent, just don’t get what makes someone care enough to post about it and then lie. We can all find the results on our own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the point is when you call yourself an A team and regularly lose to other A teams it show poorly. Then to compound the problem, you enter a B tournament and play all your A kids at the expense of your B kids...

I agree with second half of this. Don’t like any ‘A’ team playing in B tourneys. And especially with their set up at the expense of their B kids. But his post about NAL makes it sound like they got blown out, which is far from the actual story. Im not an igloo parent, just don’t get what makes someone care enough to post about it and then lie. We can all find the results on our own.

Not sure where you see that someone said Igloo got blasted. What was said is that Igloo is clearly not an elite team. The results speak for themselves, last year and so far this year. With many teams playing on LI this weekend lets see who shows up. Football is over for HS so most roster should have their players. If you're not competitive this fall I don't see how drastically things would change come spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess legacy can not invite it’s team back next year after that performance.

I’m not sure what you expected out of Legacy. When you take a bunch of mediocre kids off of one team and mix them with mediocre kids from another team, you’re going to get a mediocre team with a new name. With the exception of that big lefty, I didn’t see any high level kids. But in their defense, I only saw one full game and one half game.

Igloo was different. They looked like they had a bunch of talented kids, but they just didn’t play well together. Maybe that can be fixed with reps, but as of this fall, they are A not AA. Legarush is low end A/solid B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess legacy can not invite it’s team back next year after that performance.

I’m not sure what you expected out of Legacy. When you take a bunch of mediocre kids off of one team and mix them with mediocre kids from another team, you’re going to get a mediocre team with a new name. With the exception of that big lefty, I didn’t see any high level kids. But in their defense, I only saw one full game and one half game.

Igloo was different. They looked like they had a bunch of talented kids, but they just didn’t play well together. Maybe that can be fixed with reps, but as of this fall, they are A not AA. Legarush is low end A/solid B.

Enough with AA, A, low A, solid B, B
There are good teams and bad teams. Keep it simple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

Did they play from LI this season.

Igloo was different. They looked like they had a bunch of talented kids, but they just didn’t play well together.

You just summed up the program who takes the shiny new toys each season instead of developing the players they have. Not every kid will stay with the program but when you see 15 new faces each year on a team of course there won't be chemistry. The players and parents bounce from program to program because the grass is always greener. Evaluators fall in love with the big new kid, but guess what, there is a reason they played for 5 different programs. Won't pass, takes too many shots, sound familiar? Be careful what you wish for. Just because you have 50 kids on a roster doesn't mean your doing anything right.

you guys come on here and criticize 14 year old lacrosse it is pathetic . You all should worry about your kid only , dont worry about any other team or kid . I bet because your kid was so good he had UNC looking at your games . Go get a life because 98% of these kids are not going to high end Division 1

You would think after all the years mylaxtourneys has been organizing lax events they would have this completely aced. IMHO Blatant, Tri Star and FLG run better events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You would think after all the years mylaxtourneys has been organizing lax events they would have this completely aced. IMHO Blatant, Tri Star and FLG run better events.

This weekends Fall Classic? What seems to be the issue?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You would think after all the years mylaxtourneys has been organizing lax events they would have this completely aced. IMHO Blatant, Tri Star and FLG run better events.

This weekends Fall Classic? What seems to be the issue?

There are teams that will likely not have competitive games. It can be good to be challenged, but be challenged and lose is one thing. Lose by getting wiped out is not fun for anybody.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You would think after all the years mylaxtourneys has been organizing lax events they would have this completely aced. IMHO Blatant, Tri Star and FLG run better events.

This weekends Fall Classic? What seems to be the issue?

There are teams that will likely not have competitive games. It can be good to be challenged, but be challenged and lose is one thing. Lose by getting wiped out is not fun for anybody.

name 1 game that someone would get wiped out? so igloo goes by flurry not northface anymore? i understand there's one team so they chose the second teams name? i would have liked to see igloo play more difficult games this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You would think after all the years mylaxtourneys has been organizing lax events they would have this completely aced. IMHO Blatant, Tri Star and FLG run better events.

This weekends Fall Classic? What seems to be the issue?

There are teams that will likely not have competitive games. It can be good to be challenged, but be challenged and lose is one thing. Lose by getting wiped out is not fun for anybody.

name 1 game that someone would get wiped out? so igloo goes by flurry not northface anymore? i understand there's one team so they chose the second teams name? i would have liked to see igloo play more difficult games this weekend

If Igloo brought the real Flurry team every game would be difficult. Truth is they don't have enough for a full B team. They will bring half of their A players (Northface) and claim they are Flurry. Facts. We personally know several players on claim they are on "both" teams. Shame on the organization for playing down in tournaments and on the parents who claim that they're just getting more playing time. How the B team parents put up with it is nuts. $ucker$

May as well change name to "Flurry" full time. The B team Parents must be happy as they have those "New" uniforms with a design from 5 years ago. Their kids will look good watching the other kids from the old "Northface" play. And to be honest, if they play a decent B team there is a good shot they lose because thats what they really are, A B team, regardless of what their name is. The have 1 kid. Lock that kid off and they cant score.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

May as well change name to "Flurry" full time. The B team Parents must be happy as they have those "New" uniforms with a design from 5 years ago. Their kids will look good watching the other kids from the old "Northface" play. And to be honest, if they play a decent B team there is a good shot they lose because thats what they really are, A B team, regardless of what their name is. The have 1 kid. Lock that kid off and they cant score.

By next year there will rarely be A and B brackets. Just tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

May as well change name to "Flurry" full time. The B team Parents must be happy as they have those "New" uniforms with a design from 5 years ago. Their kids will look good watching the other kids from the old "Northface" play. And to be honest, if they play a decent B team there is a good shot they lose because thats what they really are, A B team, regardless of what their name is. The have 1 kid. Lock that kid off and they cant score.

It looks like Igloo begged the directors to put them up against weak teams, although how would you like to travel from Florida and find out you're playing against ringers. Making Igloo great again.

I am one of the B team parents. Regardless of what your motivation is for trashing a program which you have no connection, my son plays for Igloo because he likes the program, and the training. He also doesn’t view this as anything more than just playing lacrosse. He’ll be fine in life and get into a top school on grades alone.

I hope your kid is the same, and is motivated beyond this nonsense. because he’s certainly not getting much from you all as a role model. Keep it up angry guys and enjoy your 3 games tomorrow, it goes fast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am one of the B team parents. Regardless of what your motivation is for trashing a program which you have no connection, my son plays for Igloo because he likes the program, and the training. He also doesn’t view this as anything more than just playing lacrosse. He’ll be fine in life and get into a top school on grades alone.

I hope your kid is the same, and is motivated beyond this nonsense. because he’s certainly not getting much from you all as a role model. Keep it up angry guys and enjoy your 3 games tomorrow, it goes fast.

HOW MANY MINUTES A GAME DOES THE B PLAYERS GET?

Does your son play ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am one of the B team parents. Regardless of what your motivation is for trashing a program which you have no connection, my son plays for Igloo because he likes the program, and the training. He also doesn’t view this as anything more than just playing lacrosse. He’ll be fine in life and get into a top school on grades alone.

I hope your kid is the same, and is motivated beyond this nonsense. because he’s certainly not getting much from you all as a role model. Keep it up angry guys and enjoy your 3 games tomorrow, it goes fast.

I do not think it's "Angry Guys" I believe it's 1 angry guy, either his kid was cut from igloo or his kid gets no play time. He obviously has an axe to grind with the organization. No rationale adult would spend this much time trashing an organization that they have nothing to do with.

This topic is getting a lot of attention...Do all of the kids play? And when I say play, I mean meaningful minutes? Or do B players pay A "tuition" and get in with 1 minute left and up by 7 goals... I have no skin in the game but if B kids are watching kids playing on both teams, thats not cool.... But again, not my problem, luckily

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does your son play ?

Yes he plays, equally. Not getting into how many minutes because it doesn’t matter. It’s about quality of time and improvement, both of which he is happy with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am one of the B team parents. Regardless of what your motivation is for trashing a program which you have no connection, my son plays for Igloo because he likes the program, and the training. He also doesn’t view this as anything more than just playing lacrosse. He’ll be fine in life and get into a top school on grades alone.

I hope your kid is the same, and is motivated beyond this nonsense. because he’s certainly not getting much from you all as a role model. Keep it up angry guys and enjoy your 3 games tomorrow, it goes fast.

I do not think it's "Angry Guys" I believe it's 1 angry guy, either his kid was cut from igloo or his kid gets no play time. He obviously has an axe to grind with the organization. No rationale adult would spend this much time trashing an organization that they have nothing to do with.

Or maybe just maybe it's the half of the team that left because one of the directors is a despicable human being and not held accountable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am one of the B team parents. Regardless of what your motivation is for trashing a program which you have no connection, my son plays for Igloo because he likes the program, and the training. He also doesn’t view this as anything more than just playing lacrosse. He’ll be fine in life and get into a top school on grades alone.

I hope your kid is the same, and is motivated beyond this nonsense. because he’s certainly not getting much from you all as a role model. Keep it up angry guys and enjoy your 3 games tomorrow, it goes fast.

I do not think it's "Angry Guys" I believe it's 1 angry guy, either his kid was cut from igloo or his kid gets no play time. He obviously has an axe to grind with the organization. No rationale adult would spend this much time trashing an organization that they have nothing to do with.

Or maybe just maybe it's the half of the team that left because one of the directors is a despicable human being and not held accountable.

If it’s people who are gone. Then move on you are gone. If it’s someone who is still there, do yourself a favor and leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This topic is getting a lot of attention...Do all of the kids play? And when I say play, I mean meaningful minutes? Or do B players pay A "tuition" and get in with 1 minute left and up by 7 goals... I have no skin in the game but if B kids are watching kids playing on both teams, thats not cool.... But again, not my problem, luckily

No biggie here. Just enter vs the correct competition and should be of concern. The issue is If the same roster plays tomorrow as two weeks back than that’s a waste.

Who cares!!!!

https://USCL.com/rank?v=1025&alpha=N&y=2021

I know most people focus on the A teams only. Who are the best B teams now at this age? I know hornets have been good. Not sure if igloo B is really A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know most people focus on the A teams only. Who are the best B teams now at this age? I know hornets have been good. Not sure if igloo B is really A.

Legrush White
Express
Rebels
91

In that order

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

I think Legacy B is probably top right now (but they have top kids playing when they play so who knows)

Then
Rebels Hawks
Express Davis
91 Hornets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

Sounds like the same rebel cheerleader on every grade board. Yawn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

They beat express once by a goal in a scrimmage. Never in a tourney. But they improved a lot and they have offensive player that is a big difference maker. And we know how this goes with B teams… an A team will come along and take him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

Sounds like the same rebel cheerleader on every grade board. Yawn

They never beat express in a tourney and once in a scrimmage. The team is better, can’t wait for the highlights on Instagram.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

I think Legacy B is probably top right now (but they have top kids playing when they play so who knows)

Then
Rebels Hawks
Express Davis
91 Hornets

Legacy has two B teams and no A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

Rebels Chrome lost to Regulators for the 100th time yesterday. In typical fashion they were yelling at the refs the entire game. I dont Think the sky is the limit. I think the B bracket probably is.

4th time so all time record now 4-4. Two very good teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4th time so all time record now 4-4. Two very good teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4th time so all time record now 4-4. Two very good teams

4-4? You wish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know most people focus on the A teams only. Who are the best B teams now at this age? I know hornets have been good. Not sure if igloo B is really A.

We played Igloo. The parents were very nice people they did say that a lot of kids play for both A and B teams. Although we lost the game was close, end of the day and freezing so most people just wanted to leave. I could see people having a real problem with this. My son did say that the goalie and FOGO are the starters for A team. Why are they in a B division with half A kids? They must not be very good as a A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know most people focus on the A teams only. Who are the best B teams now at this age? I know hornets have been good. Not sure if igloo B is really A.

We played Igloo. The parents were very nice people they did say that a lot of kids play for both A and B teams. Although we lost the game was close, end of the day and freezing so most people just wanted to leave. I could see people having a real problem with this. My son did say that the goalie and FOGO are the starters for A team. Why are they in a B division with half A kids? They must not be very good as a A team.

They don’t have enough for a B team and the Hornets look like they have 30+ on that sideline. I suspect that is a tough for the players, coach and parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know most people focus on the A teams only. Who are the best B teams now at this age? I know hornets have been good. Not sure if igloo B is really A.

We played Igloo. The parents were very nice people they did say that a lot of kids play for both A and B teams. Although we lost the game was close, end of the day and freezing so most people just wanted to leave. I could see people having a real problem with this. My son did say that the goalie and FOGO are the starters for A team. Why are they in a B division with half A kids? They must not be very good as a A team.

They don't have enough for a B team and the Hornets look like they have 30+ on that sideline. I suspect that is a tough for the players, coach and parents.

How does Igloo not have enough for B team? There must have been over 25 players. They also lost to a Florida team. Don't know anything about them , was Florida an A team? Overall it was a well run tournament of mostly competitive B teams.

Rebels Chrome is an embarassment. A few thoughts:

They got shelled again. Same plays that dont work, same kids playing out of position or never leaving the field(unless they are ejected) and same lousy coaching.

The Regulators OWN the Rebels Chrome, not the loud mouth coach/director on the sidelines.

I bet their "B" team could beat their A team but we will never know.....

Rebels hawks is most improved. The issue there is they are hard to judge right now as played really soft competition all Fall (Minus a depleted Express team in a scrimmage and an inconsistent 91 team this weekend). Igloo B: Are they a B? An A? An A/B? A type O negative? What about Turtles? They seem pretty good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks is most improved. The issue there is they are hard to judge right now as played really soft competition all Fall (Minus a depleted Express team in a scrimmage and an inconsistent 91 team this weekend). Igloo B: Are they a B? An A? An A/B? A type O negative? What about Turtles? They seem pretty good.

Kudos for a solid post.

4-4? What lifetime? Rebs won once, 3 years ago...May have even been Regs 1st game ever. Stop dreaming and figure out how to right the ship.

Whats the deal with Express? They had like 4 kids on the sidelines? Small roster? Hurt kids? Big turnover?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4-4? What lifetime? Rebs won once, 3 years ago...May have even been Regs 1st game ever. Stop dreaming and figure out how to right the ship.

It’s fall ball, let’s not read too much into it. Most teams missing a lot of kids. Rebels missing 5-6 important pieces football/injury. Still should perform better, but makes a big difference.

Legacy or Igloo could dominate the B bracket but they will do so by bringing in a "floating roster" of their A players. Based on what I've seen so far this fall I would say the Turtles, Rebels Red Hawks and S2S Hawks are the best B teams right now. Things could change in the spring.

Agree on most with Rebels. They do only play in AA brackets and that will not change. Beat express north 2 weeks ago. Regulators are good club but kinda have a revolving door of players. Some clubs go in and out of tourneys by match ups. They(Rebels) also scrimmage shock pretty regularly. This is not a excuse just fact. Top mid, attackman hurt. Also 2 starting Def no shows. That’s no excuse, next man up. Team has talent. At this age it’s not on coaching. Offensive coach is a lacrosse Rat, and runs a good system. Old man little crazy, and defensive guy excellent. Fall is over, do not look back always look forward. Rebels like all have next 6 months to get it right.

They havent gotten it right in 3 years...Why would they change now? You can run every play for 1 kid. And you cant field the same group of kids that dont produce while others sit and watch. Well actually, you can....but everyone sees the results..

Hope your enjoying that power house S2S you went to

Nice try. Wrong person your referring too.

Whats wrong with S2S? Does anyone have anything good to say about any of these teams?

Thoughts
S2S might not have best kids, but Big Upgrade at Coach
91 No where to be seen
Express plays anyone anytime
Rebels Chrome underperforming
Turtles Never step up to test kids, like the B wins
Mega Rush Jury out till they figure what's going on
Regulators solid
True Blue another B Team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats the deal with Express? They had like 4 kids on the sidelines? Small roster? Hurt kids? Big turnover?

They have a bunch of kids hurt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats the deal with Express? They had like 4 kids on the sidelines? Small roster? Hurt kids? Big turnover?

They have a bunch of kids hurt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats the deal with Express? They had like 4 kids on the sidelines? Small roster? Hurt kids? Big turnover?

They have a bunch of kids hurt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy or Igloo could dominate the B bracket but they will do so by bringing in a "floating roster" of their A players. Based on what I've seen so far this fall I would say the Turtles, Rebels Red Hawks and S2S Hawks are the best B teams right now. Things could change in the spring.

S2S hawks is their A team. Turtles are an A team. Red Hawks are better and are now are in that same grouping of Express, 91, Legrush Red, those four all played each other in competitive games and probably all lose to or beat one another based on the day.

Fall Classic only had one AA Division. Turtles and S2S Played in B Divisions(neither are close to AA), so they are B teams.

PARITY! This is where the best coaching will show... Some of these "B" teams could compete, and in some cases, Beat some "A" teams

Who was in AA?

4 Leaf, 3D AA , Regulators and Rebels Chrome top teams at Tourney

S2S has some really good kids, added some kids that didn’t want to play on what they thought was a b team (igloo,legacy,91). Same w/ rebels and so on

Turtles good team. Their focus is to get better with practice. No interest in recruiting kids

Igloo / Legacy B have good teams. Issue was they had to put some new kids that tried out on the A or they would have went to rebels or s2s. Legacy had kids go back to Rush 2024. Hope is those parents will see over the practices where there kid belongs and understand he will be better off. These players “moonlight” in B because they are not getting runs with the A squad in games. This actually hurts the A team as kids are there all day on standby with 2 teams

The rest is simple. Take a good A player at a key position and play him on the B squad and team will be that much better. Icon does it with some 91 kids when they don’t have a tournament and the results show. Think Icon was winless this weekend and they have a good team just not enough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4 Leaf, 3D AA , Regulators and Rebels Chrome top teams at Tourney

S2S has some really good kids, added some kids that didn’t want to play on what they thought was a b team (igloo,legacy,91). Same w/ rebels and so on

Turtles good team. Their focus is to get better with practice. No interest in recruiting kids

Igloo / Legacy B have good teams. Issue was they had to put some new kids that tried out on the A or they would have went to rebels or s2s. Legacy had kids go back to Rush 2024. Hope is those parents will see over the practices where there kid belongs and understand he will be better off. These players “moonlight” in B because they are not getting runs with the A squad in games. This actually hurts the A team as kids are there all day on standby with 2 teams

The rest is simple. Take a good A player at a key position and play him on the B squad and team will be that much better. Icon does it with some 91 kids when they don’t have a tournament and the results show. Think Icon was winless this weekend and they have a good team just not enough

Regulators will be a top team this summer.

Regulators will beat Rebels and remain mediocre rest of the way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4 Leaf, 3D AA , Regulators and Rebels Chrome top teams at Tourney

S2S has some really good kids, added some kids that didn’t want to play on what they thought was a b team (igloo,legacy,91). Same w/ rebels and so on

Turtles good team. Their focus is to get better with practice. No interest in recruiting kids

Igloo / Legacy B have good teams. Issue was they had to put some new kids that tried out on the A or they would have went to rebels or s2s. Legacy had kids go back to Rush 2024. Hope is those parents will see over the practices where there kid belongs and understand he will be better off. These players “moonlight” in B because they are not getting runs with the A squad in games. This actually hurts the A team as kids are there all day on standby with 2 teams

The rest is simple. Take a good A player at a key position and play him on the B squad and team will be that much better. Icon does it with some 91 kids when they don’t have a tournament and the results show. Think Icon was winless this weekend and they have a good team just not enough

This is whole thing is nutty. How come it never works out that the top players from B teams never end up on a single team. Hypothetically If the top players from Igloo B, Legrush, 91, Rebels and Express formed a team, wouldn’t that be an A team?? I think so. But somehow the talent on the B level gets dispersed over several teams and on A teams it forms up. B teams used be very hard to make and were all good, now it’s year to year and lotsa of turnover. I guess saturation of the market sorta broke things maybe. But just my opinion, but worth a good discussion.

What I find amazing is how many losers on here being critical of 14 year old kids. Wow some of your seriously need a life. Best part is if your didn’t have to post anonymously you would all be quiet as a church mouse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I find amazing is how many losers on here being critical of 14 year old kids. Wow some of your seriously need a life. Best part is if your didn’t have to post anonymously you would all be quiet as a church mouse

Thanks, Mr/Mrs Anonymous

A and B is overrated... If there is a good player out there, they will find him. This is a very small community. The end game should be practice & playing time. If your getting nothing out of practices or your kid is not on the field than A / B doesn't matter. But it sure makes for funny banter on this board.

Everyone should watch the kids on all these teams and follow their lead. The kids get it ( maybe a few dont but blame that on those around them). It's the parents that turn it into the circus. Let the kids play, develop and enjoy the game. Your useless screaming, sideline interventions and after-game critiques are doing nothing for them...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A and B is overrated... If there is a good player out there, they will find him. This is a very small community. The end game should be practice & playing time. If your getting nothing out of practices or your kid is not on the field than A / B doesn't matter. But it sure makes for funny banter on this board.

Everyone should watch the kids on all these teams and follow their lead. The kids get it ( maybe a few dont but blame that on those around them). It's the parents that turn it into the circus. Let the kids play, develop and enjoy the game. Your useless screaming, sideline interventions and after-game critiques are doing nothing for them...

While I tend to agree with your statement about the parents I believe it's also the proliferation of A and B teams and overzealous owners. The price escalation for travel lacrosse is totally out of control. It wasn't too long ago that the upper tier of players only played travel year round. Now the programs have everyone convinced that if they haven't bought into the year round training they'll be at a disadvantage. Town and rec teams used to fill the gap for players want a little more than school ball. The three sport athlete is becoming rare yet travel clubs will tell you they love well rounded athletes. How could they possible have time AND continue to perform where it ultimately matter most, IN THE CLASSROOM.

Totally ageee with that statement. Well rounded but when my son plays a fall or winter sport in high school and doesn’t go to practice for his travel team the director tells me he really should be at practice. Guess what high school grades and teams come first

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally ageee with that statement. Well rounded but when my son plays a fall or winter sport in high school and doesn’t go to practice for his travel team the director tells me he really should be at practice. Guess what high school grades and teams come first

Yes, some coaches do that. And will hold it against kids that don’t show up to practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

Tops?. 91 didn’t really have a fall schedule as compared to other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

Tops?. 91 didn’t really have a fall schedule as compared to other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

Tops?. 91 didn’t really have a fall schedule as compared to other teams.

True but nobody on the island is close to them. They are also out recruiting other clubs. multiple kids from TX, IL, CT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

Tops?. 91 didn’t really have a fall schedule as compared to other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

Tops?. 91 didn’t really have a fall schedule as compared to other teams.

True but nobody on the island is close to them. They are also out recruiting other clubs. multiple kids from TX, IL, CT

Stop it. 1-1-1 in the last real event. They are good, but just as good as any AA team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went off at NAL....NOT.... 1 win... Guess the A/B combo experiment isnt working out as planned (whatever that plan wa$).... This weekend's performance answers the question of why you would put your "A" team in a "B" team tournament the week before.

I said it last week, they are in a tough spot. They are not a true A team but they are better than most of the B teams. They are going to get blasted for playing in A tournaments and losing. Them when they enter B Tournaments they win and get blasted for beating inferior teams. Tough situation

91 tops on the island, Express second but not very close. After that it's all the others battling for your hard earned dollars and the promise of college recruitment. There is a college for everybody to play at the next level, D1, D2, D3, MCLA. Choose your education over lacrosse than figure it out later.

Tops?. 91 didn’t really have a fall schedule as compared to other teams.

True but nobody on the island is close to them. They are also out recruiting other clubs. multiple kids from TX, IL, CT[/quote]

Stop it. 1-1-1 in the last real event. They are good, but just as good as any AA team.[/quote]
Since this is a LI forum what other team are you putting in the same category AA category as 91? Express closed the gap with great improvement but still not there. After that there is a tremendous gap. Forget the Fall results kids still played football, injuries etc. Not Igloo or Rebel bashing but they are not even close to top tier, never have been, lump them in with everyone else behind the top two.

Let’s just say that 2025 BBL, Express, 91, Express North, Eclipse and Prime Time can all compete with one another. Can a team beat another team by 5 or 8 goals, yes…but that same matchup can be a one goal game as well. The point is the talent level has no gap and in my opinion there is no head and shoulders team above one another, especially now that this is HS.

91, Express ...then everyone else on LI.............

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s just say that 2025 BBL, Express, 91, Express North, Eclipse and Prime Time can all compete with one another. Can a team beat another team by 5 or 8 goals, yes…but that same matchup can be a one goal game as well. The point is the talent level has no gap and in my opinion there is no head and shoulders team above one another, especially now that this is HS.

Plus 3D NE, LXC, WCS

We are talking about LI teams... Parity across the board

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hawks are top B team. Beat express 2 times and 91 today. Only thing is they are not a B team, much better and closer to A. Rebels again do it right. The sky's the limit for this club.

Rebels didn't beat Express 2x... beat once by 1 goal in a scrimmage with a lot of Express kids hurt. Only thing worse that your lies are the teams parents

It was a 3 team scrimmage. Hawks much improved and played their best game. Exp apparenlty had alot of kids out. No excuse. Next kid up...But I think there will be separation in Spring in tournament play. That Exp team had like 3 kids on the sidelines each time we saw them. Something was off

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a 3 team scrimmage. Hawks much improved and played their best game. Exp apparenlty had alot of kids out. No excuse. Next kid up...But I think there will be separation in Spring in tournament play. That Exp team had like 3 kids on the sidelines each time we saw them. Something was off

Hawks beat 91 easily. And what’s going on with the Hornets. They have a huge sideline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are talking about LI teams... Parity across the board

91 hasn't lost to a long island team in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are talking about LI teams... Parity across the board

91 hasn't lost to a long island team in years

Because they selectively pick match ups so parents can brag about the team. Team is good, no doubt. But probably need more depth now that it’s HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are talking about LI teams... Parity across the board

91 hasn't lost to a long island team in years

Because they selectively pick match ups so parents can brag about the team. Team is good, no doubt. But probably need more depth now that it’s HS.

What are you talking about? They have played express, igloo, regulators, rebels, rush, legacy many times. who are they ducking? They lose games but its not to anyone on the island

91 lost to Rebels last spring in scrimmage 8-7. They did play 3 times since and beat them pretty good like 4/5 goals each time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 lost to Rebels last spring in scrimmage 8-7. They did play 3 times since and beat them pretty good like 4/5 goals each time.

Are you really keeping score in a scrimmage? You must be a Mom. If not, shame on you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 lost to Rebels last spring in scrimmage 8-7. They did play 3 times since and beat them pretty good like 4/5 goals each time.

Are you really coming on here bragging about a scrimmage amongst B teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are talking about LI teams... Parity across the board

91 hasn't lost to a long island team in years

Because they selectively pick match ups so parents can brag about the team. Team is good, no doubt. But probably need more depth now that it’s HS.

What are you talking about? They have played express, igloo, regulators, rebels, rush, legacy many times. who are they ducking? They lose games but its not to anyone on the island

They played very few LI teams in the last 6 month is all. They did beat them all, yes, but it would be cool to see these teams faceoff in the fall here instead of traveling out of state.

STOP Lost to Rebels in a scrimmage? Rebels cant beat anyone, town teams included...

Rebels and Igloo seem to dominate the headlines on this forum. Rebels because the parents won't stop bragging and Igloo for all the wrong reasons. How about both of you just go away?

What are we talking about? A , B, both? I can tell you the self proclaimed Rebels "A" team has won 2 games, yes 2, in the past year. And a tie at their last tournament. Not sure that warrants bragging. The Rebels B team is improved with good coaches. Leave it at that. ForceGloo should change name to Scamgloo as thats what happened to the parents and the kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are we talking about? A , B, both? I can tell you the self proclaimed Rebels "A" team has won 2 games, yes 2, in the past year. And a tie at their last tournament. Not sure that warrants bragging. The Rebels B team is improved with good coaches. Leave it at that. ForceGloo should change name to Scamgloo as thats what happened to the parents and the kids

Speaking of "ForceGloo", I wish Force still had teams.

Force was decent at this age. Both A and B. But these clubs always seem to fold, for one reason or another. And then you see some teams with 1 1/2 teams or teams with 35. My opinion as somebody who has been there, this HS now, so find a team with dedicated coaches and a normal roster and try to go there. These years of club lax are critical and a stable situation is key. Ask yourself if you’re on a half team or team with 35 kids how beneficial this will be showcased. It will likely be a waste.Not seeing playing time at this point means you should be doing a full re evaluation of things ASAP. Again imho.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are we talking about? A , B, both? I can tell you the self proclaimed Rebels "A" team has won 2 games, yes 2, in the past year. And a tie at their last tournament. Not sure that warrants bragging. The Rebels B team is improved with good coaches. Leave it at that. ForceGloo should change name to Scamgloo as thats what happened to the parents and the kids

Speaking of "ForceGloo", I wish Force still had teams.

They are now called FlurrFace

Originally Posted by Anonymous

STOP Lost to Rebels in a scrimmage? Rebels cant beat anyone, town teams included...

Rebels did beat Express North Black this fall in a 4 way after tri star was cancelled. Who is ranked #3 in country..

Rebels hasnt beaten anyone. Heck, they cant even beat their own "B" team. Just stop with the nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hasnt beaten anyone. Heck, they cant even beat their own "B" team. Just stop with the nonsense.

The Rebels B team can beat Igloo because Igloo doesn't really have a B team, they have A team guests masquerading as the B team and their A team can't beat anyone. Mind blown. Igloo, mission statement; The Anti-travel Pro Money Travel Team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hasnt beaten anyone. Heck, they cant even beat their own "B" team. Just stop with the nonsense.

The Rebels B team can beat Igloo because Igloo doesn't really have a B team, they have A team guests masquerading as the B team and their A team can't beat anyone. Mind blown. Igloo, mission statement; The Anti-travel Pro Money Travel Team

We get it, you don’t like igloo. Move on already

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels hasnt beaten anyone. Heck, they cant even beat their own "B" team. Just stop with the nonsense.

The Rebels B team can beat Igloo because Igloo doesn't really have a B team, they have A team guests masquerading as the B team and their A team can't beat anyone. Mind blown. Igloo, mission statement; The Anti-travel Pro Money Travel Team

We get it, you don’t like igloo. Move on already

What wrong Igloo parent, someone scratch your new Escalade in the parking lot?

This has to be the LOWEST of the LOW on here. Let me ask you all something, if your kid was doing this in any capacity it would be considered "CYBER BULLYING" so why do you feel that what you are doing is any different, because you're older? If that is your answer you are really in need of some soul searching. This site was good for looking up camps, clinics, tournaments and showcases but now all it does is give really disgruntled parents a way to take out their frustrations on programs coaches or even sometime actual kids (WHICH IS CRIMINAL). ALL of these programs are flawed, WHY, because they are all a business and if you cannot see through that then that is YOUR PROBLEM. Stop thinking your kid is better than they are, again, that is your problem. If your kid got bumped from the A team to the B team because he didn't hit puberty yet, it is what it is and you move on. He will find his way back to the top if and when HE decides it's time not the parent that NEVER did anything at this level. ALL of these programs offer something that can help a kid, ALL OF THEM. It is your job as a parent to find that gap not complain about it just because you want to be on one of the top programs because of name recognition. In less than 3 years, this is ALL DONE, 50% will play at D1, D2 or D3 programs 50% will find their niche in life outside of lacrosse and now the parents will need to scream and yell about something else. PLEASE GET OVER THIS WHOLE thing and just do the right thing for your child. There is good and bad in everything. My kid plays, my kid is good, my kid IS NOT GREAT. My kid is exactly where he needs to be right now and if i see any change in that it's MY responsibility to address the situation, first, with my son and wife, then with the coach if need be. it is not my responsibility to come on here and blast the program the coaches or the parents for that matter. Type your comments, let them sit a little before hitting send and if you need to reply then go look in the mirror afterwards and ask yourself "how embarrassed would my kid be if he knew i was blasting another team or his own team for that matter and what would be the consequences if people found out?" because in the recruiting process social media deviants will get your potential scholarship handed over to a lesser ability player with parents that kept to themselves and your stud will wonder why for the future years. How is that fair, your kid did nothing but what was asked of him by his coaches throughout the years, but dad (or mom) didn't think that was good enough. Come on man! Happy Holidays All!

This started out as a good rant w/a few good points but after the first few lines I fell asleep... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Jeez, where does a guy gotta go to have fun around here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This has to be the LOWEST of the LOW on here. Let me ask you all something, if your kid was doing this in any capacity it would be considered "CYBER BULLYING" so why do you feel that what you are doing is any different, because you're older? If that is your answer you are really in need of some soul searching. This site was good for looking up camps, clinics, tournaments and showcases but now all it does is give really disgruntled parents a way to take out their frustrations on programs coaches or even sometime actual kids (WHICH IS CRIMINAL). ALL of these programs are flawed, WHY, because they are all a business and if you cannot see through that then that is YOUR PROBLEM. Stop thinking your kid is better than they are, again, that is your problem. If your kid got bumped from the A team to the B team because he didn't hit puberty yet, it is what it is and you move on. He will find his way back to the top if and when HE decides it's time not the parent that NEVER did anything at this level. ALL of these programs offer something that can help a kid, ALL OF THEM. It is your job as a parent to find that gap not complain about it just because you want to be on one of the top programs because of name recognition. In less than 3 years, this is ALL DONE, 50% will play at D1, D2 or D3 programs 50% will find their niche in life outside of lacrosse and now the parents will need to scream and yell about something else. PLEASE GET OVER THIS WHOLE thing and just do the right thing for your child. There is good and bad in everything. My kid plays, my kid is good, my kid IS NOT GREAT. My kid is exactly where he needs to be right now and if i see any change in that it's MY responsibility to address the situation, first, with my son and wife, then with the coach if need be. it is not my responsibility to come on here and blast the program the coaches or the parents for that matter. Type your comments, let them sit a little before hitting send and if you need to reply then go look in the mirror afterwards and ask yourself "how embarrassed would my kid be if he knew i was blasting another team or his own team for that matter and what would be the consequences if people found out?" because in the recruiting process social media deviants will get your potential scholarship handed over to a lesser ability player with parents that kept to themselves and your stud will wonder why for the future years. How is that fair, your kid did nothing but what was asked of him by his coaches throughout the years, but dad (or mom) didn't think that was good enough. Come on man! Happy Holidays All!

Worst post of 2021

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This has to be the LOWEST of the LOW on here. Let me ask you all something, if your kid was doing this in any capacity it would be considered "CYBER BULLYING" so why do you feel that what you are doing is any different, because you're older? If that is your answer you are really in need of some soul searching. This site was good for looking up camps, clinics, tournaments and showcases but now all it does is give really disgruntled parents a way to take out their frustrations on programs coaches or even sometime actual kids (WHICH IS CRIMINAL). ALL of these programs are flawed, WHY, because they are all a business and if you cannot see through that then that is YOUR PROBLEM. Stop thinking your kid is better than they are, again, that is your problem. If your kid got bumped from the A team to the B team because he didn't hit puberty yet, it is what it is and you move on. He will find his way back to the top if and when HE decides it's time not the parent that NEVER did anything at this level. ALL of these programs offer something that can help a kid, ALL OF THEM. It is your job as a parent to find that gap not complain about it just because you want to be on one of the top programs because of name recognition. In less than 3 years, this is ALL DONE, 50% will play at D1, D2 or D3 programs 50% will find their niche in life outside of lacrosse and now the parents will need to scream and yell about something else. PLEASE GET OVER THIS WHOLE thing and just do the right thing for your child. There is good and bad in everything. My kid plays, my kid is good, my kid IS NOT GREAT. My kid is exactly where he needs to be right now and if i see any change in that it's MY responsibility to address the situation, first, with my son and wife, then with the coach if need be. it is not my responsibility to come on here and blast the program the coaches or the parents for that matter. Type your comments, let them sit a little before hitting send and if you need to reply then go look in the mirror afterwards and ask yourself "how embarrassed would my kid be if he knew i was blasting another team or his own team for that matter and what would be the consequences if people found out?" because in the recruiting process social media deviants will get your potential scholarship handed over to a lesser ability player with parents that kept to themselves and your stud will wonder why for the future years. How is that fair, your kid did nothing but what was asked of him by his coaches throughout the years, but dad (or mom) didn't think that was good enough. Come on man! Happy Holidays All!

Worst post of 2021

Agree. Get off your soapbox.

How much Lunch $ did you surrender in school when you were a kid? Toughen up Daisy...

Nice lineup in FL this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice lineup in FL this weekend

Pool play will be a yawn. Shock should have a cakewalk-and should face prime time in the semis. 91 md should cruise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice lineup in FL this weekend

is it on tourney machine?

Whats in FL? Who from LI is going to FL, Mid Dec, for 15 yr old LAx?

https://tourneymachine.com/Public/R...rnament=h202110141842524345b3968aee84146

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats in FL? Who from LI is going to FL, Mid Dec, for 15 yr old LAx?

We are here so the college scouts will remember us come recruiting time. We would much rather take an early lacrosse vacation rather than spending winter break with our families.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats in FL? Who from LI is going to FL, Mid Dec, for 15 yr old LAx?

We are here so the college scouts will remember us come recruiting time. We would much rather take an early lacrosse vacation rather than spending winter break with our families.

Why the sarcasm?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats in FL? Who from LI is going to FL, Mid Dec, for 15 yr old LAx?

We are here so the college scouts will remember us come recruiting time. We would much rather take an early lacrosse vacation rather than spending winter break with our families.

Very limited recruiting benefit for all but the 2023s but the flights are pretty reasonable and it's a nice little vacation. If you can swing the time and money it will probably be fun. If not, I doubt you are missing anything.

FINALLY!! An honest answer! Get that man a red solo cup and fill it with Lax Dreams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats in FL? Who from LI is going to FL, Mid Dec, for 15 yr old LAx?

We are here so the college scouts will remember us come recruiting time. We would much rather take an early lacrosse vacation rather than spending winter break with our families.

Very limited recruiting benefit for all but the 2023s but the flights are pretty reasonable and it's a nice little vacation. If you can swing the time and money it will probably be fun. If not, I doubt you are missing anything.

Ummm, how about missing school and travelling while covid cases continue to climb. NY just announced the mask mandate. Can't wait for all the deniers to chime in. While you're down in Florida how about you go house hunting and stay there I'm sure you'll fit right in.

Yes, A risk and an expense well worth it in the name of 15 yr old Lax glory

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats in FL? Who from LI is going to FL, Mid Dec, for 15 yr old LAx?

We are here so the college scouts will remember us come recruiting time. We would much rather take an early lacrosse vacation rather than spending winter break with our families.

Why the sarcasm?

Isn't sarcasm why this site exists?

My son got committed to Valero university! It’s a two day school and he’ll be pumping gas!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, A risk and an expense well worth it in the name of 15 yr old Lax glory

14 year old…

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son got committed to Valero university! It’s a two day school and he’ll be pumping gas!

Must be proud that he’s following in your footsteps

How did the LI teams do down south? Looks like other than 91, not many positives...

Let’s be honest until someone beats the Team 91 Maryland (Fire) 2025 team it’s them and everyone else at this point. Give credit where it’s due special team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Shock up 4-3 going into 4th. 91MD capitalized off some turnovers in the 4th. Game could have gone either way. Both teams very good.

Igloo only other team there. Although the score was close in a few games they did not impress. I know, I know, close game, could have gone either way blah blah. When you have only one offensive weapon the defense can only hold so much. Results speak for themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s be honest until someone beats the Team 91 Maryland (Fire) 2025 team it’s them and everyone else at this point. Give credit where it’s due special team!

While they are the best, Shock gave them all they could ask for. It was great to watch. They are not the old Turtles or Crush no matter what Millon says.

Did Igloo bring that A/B team combo they have been using here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s be honest until someone beats the Team 91 Maryland (Fire) 2025 team it’s them and everyone else at this point. Give credit where it’s due special team!

While they are the best, Shock gave them all they could ask for. It was great to watch. They are not the old Turtles or Crush no matter what Millon says.

The reason we won’t see teams like that is because a lot of teams now draw from pools of talent regionally and from all over the country and improve that way, not from just local pools. The teams core is built locally at the onset, but then it’s expands over time. Not against it, just now how a lot of teams build rosters. The rub may be if your son is a second line player, then you he can slide down the depth chart and lose playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Igloo bring that A/B team combo they have been using here?

Check the results, might have been their C team. Nah, the A team is that bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas?

And three other states. 91 “shocked you are actually from Long Island “

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas?

And three other states. 91 “shocked you are actually from Long Island “

A lot teams have kids from all states now. Just the way it is and no biggie. These clubs place an emphasis on branding they are the best. My preference is a solid A team with local kids that wins games and loses games with good coaching. Plus likely more playing time for my son vs being bumped down the depth chart. Nice thing is a lot choices and what club decision somebody makes is their business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas
?

You mean Seaford.

WHO CARES?? They still lost. Bring in Paul Rabil...it doesnt matter...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHO CARES?? They still lost. Bring in Paul Rabil...it doesnt matter...

Exactly. No rule in these tourneys where somebody lives in order to play on a team. It’s called building a roster that gives you the best chance to win. Because it is about winning, above everything else. I have no criticism of it, as long as the coaches are transparent with the families by letting them know.

If you are bringing in college kids to play....well then you have a legit gripe...But bringing in an on-age kid? C'mon man. Instead of complaining about it on this board go complain to the coaches/directors to hold more practices, recruit better players and improve and develop their kids. Lax is a team game. One kid cant do it all for your team: Just ask FlurryGloo or any other of these 1 trick pony teams...

Most of the teams that are not from Long Island have much older kids on the team. Lacrosse is based on grad year so if there's a 16 year old kid graduating in 2025 then it's within the rules. Until youth lacrosse cleans up their act like other sports, this will be the result. Birth year is the easiest way, get valid birth certificates, submit rosters, etc. It's not that difficult. Every other sport is run this way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams that are not from Long Island have much older kids on the team. Lacrosse is based on grad year so if there's a 16 year old kid graduating in 2025 then it's within the rules. Until youth lacrosse cleans up their act like other sports, this will be the result. Birth year is the easiest way, get valid birth certificates, submit rosters, etc. It's not that difficult. Every other sport is run this way.

This age thing is getting ridiculous! If kid doesn’t holdback , it seems he won’t be playing D1 lacrosse! Sad… come on lacrosse, fix this issue. Go “on age”! It used to be one year, now you are seeing 2 and 3 year holdbacks by the time they reach Junior year of HS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams that are not from Long Island have much older kids on the team. Lacrosse is based on grad year so if there's a 16 year old kid graduating in 2025 then it's within the rules. Until youth lacrosse cleans up their act like other sports, this will be the result. Birth year is the easiest way, get valid birth certificates, submit rosters, etc. It's not that difficult. Every other sport is run this way.

This age thing is getting ridiculous! If kid doesn’t holdback , it seems he won’t be playing D1 lacrosse! Sad… come on lacrosse, fix this issue. Go “on age”! It used to be one year, now you are seeing 2 and 3 year holdbacks by the time they reach Junior year of HS!

I totally agree that club and youth lacrosse should adopt age verification standards, although it won't change anything at the college level. Coaches will insist the kids do post grad hs and/or continue to reclass. The transfer portal has forever changed the way college coaches and recruiters put together rosters. It's only going to get worse. Sadly, hs freshman and sophs are wasting their time doing recruiting events and showcases.

Totally agree with last couple of statements. It's really putting kids from Long Island at a disadvantage. We've all played against teams from other regions that have high school freshman that look like men already. If a LI kid has a desire to play college ball, he's going to be at a disadvantage because the college coach will obviously prefer the "man" who is less skilled over the "boy" who is a more talented player. And it is 100% true that other sports do a better job policing this issue. Hockey and Soccer have very stringent rules and actually penalize parties that obstruct or break these rules. Overall Lacrosse is lacking this structure and if it doesn't change really soon it's going to be too late for high school aged kids.

This is something that the Long Island organizations should push for as a whole. Long term they will suffer from it more than individual players. As the sport grows nationally you will see more college recruits from other states. There will be less and less LI parents willing to fork over thousands of dollars per year if the chance of playing in college diminishes over time. The banter between clubs and teams is fun but this is something way more important that people should be focused on. If not for the chance of playing in college, at least as a safety issue. This forum is 2025, imagine what your child would do if he was playing with a 2027 team. Is it fair that other teams have that advantage?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s be honest until someone beats the Team 91 Maryland (Fire) 2025 team it’s them and everyone else at this point. Give credit where it’s due special team!

No credit is given to a team with 16 yr old freshmen, a FOGO on HGH and a coach with suspect behavior. They can't touch what 91 Crush developed with HOME GROWN, ON AGE players. No credit given to cheaters.

Not impressed with any team that has holdbacks or from a state where kids start school later. If a 16 year old is dominating 13 and 14 year olds, it’s not anything special. That’s what you would expect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s be honest until someone beats the Team 91 Maryland (Fire) 2025 team it’s them and everyone else at this point. Give credit where it’s due special team!

No credit is given to a team with 16 yr old freshmen, a FOGO on HGH and a coach with suspect behavior. They can't touch what 91 Crush developed with HOME GROWN, ON AGE players. No credit given to cheaters.

The HGH holdback is the craziest thing I have ever seen and a whole new twist. Forget figuring out age based where does everyone land on doping?

I do like when Ty Xanders releases his 5 stars every year he includes the birth date. We here on LI have holdbacks as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree with last couple of statements. It's really putting kids from Long Island at a disadvantage. We've all played against teams from other regions that have high school freshman that look like men already. If a LI kid has a desire to play college ball, he's going to be at a disadvantage because the college coach will obviously prefer the "man" who is less skilled over the "boy" who is a more talented player. And it is 100% true that other sports do a better job policing this issue. Hockey and Soccer have very stringent rules and actually penalize parties that obstruct or break these rules. Overall Lacrosse is lacking this structure and if it doesn't change really soon it's going to be too late for high school aged kids.

It's already too late for the HS kids. They're now party of the recruiting circus and nobody cares about how old they are, in fact recruiters would prefer they were older. I do agree that US Lacrosse especially LI club owners demand an on age policy. Not sure it will work since a few of the LI owners have franchised to other states. It's going to take a serious injury and lawsuit to change their minds

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree with last couple of statements. It's really putting kids from Long Island at a disadvantage. We've all played against teams from other regions that have high school freshman that look like men already. If a LI kid has a desire to play college ball, he's going to be at a disadvantage because the college coach will obviously prefer the "man" who is less skilled over the "boy" who is a more talented player. And it is 100% true that other sports do a better job policing this issue. Hockey and Soccer have very stringent rules and actually penalize parties that obstruct or break these rules. Overall Lacrosse is lacking this structure and if it doesn't change really soon it's going to be too late for high school aged kids.

It's already too late for the HS kids. They're now party of the recruiting circus and nobody cares about how old they are, in fact recruiters would prefer they were older. I do agree that US Lacrosse especially LI club owners demand an on age policy. Not sure it will work since a few of the LI owners have franchised to other states. It's going to take a serious injury and lawsuit to change their minds

US Lacrosse doesn’t want to change the rules. The way it is now benefits their elite clientele! They Have the $s to hold their kids back and get them a few extra years to get better and get an advantage to get into that top name colleges! Because , even with their $s the kid may not have had a chance at those schools without lacrosse. It’s happening more and more and the “on age” kids with middle class $s are at a total disadvantage. Forget lower income kids! It cracks me up when US Lacrosse says it’s trying to make lacrosse an opportunity for all! Lol. It’s only getting more elitist by the day!!! Need new leadership in this sport. It’s out of hand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do like when Ty Xanders releases his 5 stars every year he includes the birth date. We here on LI have holdbacks as well.

Agree that we have holdbacks on LI too. Usually they are smaller, weaker players who can't hang with their own age group, saw it with S2S coach. Out of state it seems to be more prevalent. It's definitely something that needs to be addressed. I know most sports are age based, obviously wrestling is based on size, is lacrosse the only sport that is grad year? I can't think of another?

Not everyone is necessarily a holdback by grad year. School ages differ by each state sometimes even by district within the same state (NYC vs LI). It's easy enough for a lacrosse governing body to level the field by using an age based model. It's mind boggling they have not done so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do like when Ty Xanders releases his 5 stars every year he includes the birth date. We here on LI have holdbacks as well.

Agree that we have holdbacks on LI too. Usually they are smaller, weaker players who can't hang with their own age group, saw it with S2S coach. Out of state it seems to be more prevalent. It's definitely something that needs to be addressed. I know most sports are age based, obviously wrestling is based on size, is lacrosse the only sport that is grad year? I can't think of another?

I disagree with the smaller weaker player comment. Just look at the 2022 and 2023 classes. The Number 1 2022 recruit is from LI He would of been the number 1 recruit in the 21 class. LI has their fair share of holdbacks, The more common trend on the island are kids commiting in their year, then doing a PG year. This is all discussed during the recruiting process with the school they commit to. I believe you see even more of this in the coming years.

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

And the top 2021 was also a holdback. Funny how people on this board complain about other states with holdbacks yet the top recruit in the nation in 2021 and 2022 are Long Island holdback! Classic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

That would make him a 2020

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

That would make him a 2020

WRONG use you fingers and toes and count backwards…25, 24, 23, 22, 21….

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

And the top 2021 was also a holdback. Funny how people on this board complain about other states with holdbacks yet the top recruit in the nation in 2021 and 2022 are Long Island holdback! Classic.

Because, to be the top recruit they will prob always be a holdback going forward!! LI has had to catch up on the holdback scene. The other regions are doing it way more and LI now realizing it’s prob. what needs to be done to be competitive with kids in holdback states like MD. Good for them! If it weren’t them, it would be a 2/3 year holdback from Maryland! LI is just catching up on this holdback craziness! If they don’t do it, chances slim of getting to play in top D1 school. It’s out of hand now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

That would make him a 2020

WRONG use you fingers and toes and count backwards…25, 24, 23, 22, 21….

Bday is 6-3-02. My son, who is a 2022 and graduating in June has a bday of 5-27-04

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

That would make him a 2020

WRONG use you fingers and toes and count backwards…25, 24, 23, 22, 21….

The math is easy, he will be 20 when he graduates in 2022…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

That would make him a 2020

WRONG use you fingers and toes and count backwards…25, 24, 23, 22, 21….

The math is easy, he will be 20 when he graduates in 2022…..

The birthdate is wrong. He was born 2003. Not 2002. My older son has played with him for years. His brothers were born 2004 and are class of 2023. They were all held back at the start of of school entering kindergarten

My son is 20 and is a sophomore in college playing at an ACC school so think about that !!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

That would make him a 2020

WRONG use you fingers and toes and count backwards…25, 24, 23, 22, 21….

The math is easy, he will be 20 when he graduates in 2022…..

The birthdate is wrong. He was born 2003. Not 2002. My older son has played with him for years. His brothers were born 2004 and are class of 2023. They were all held back at the start of of school entering kindergarten

Of course they were held back in Kindergarten. They were calculating the holdback scenario even then. Probably when the kids were born! To get advantages.

Go to the 2022 board. Nobody here cares. This board is reserved for complaining about 2025, its teams, directors, etc Thx chucklehead

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go to the 2022 board. Nobody here cares. This board is reserved for complaining about 2025, its teams, directors, etc Thx chucklehead

So sorry, you don’t get to dictate what people complain about! So, go scratch and thnx!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

And the top 2021 was also a holdback. Funny how people on this board complain about other states with holdbacks yet the top recruit in the nation in 2021 and 2022 are Long Island holdback! Classic.

Because, to be the top recruit they will prob always be a holdback going forward!! LI has had to catch up on the holdback scene. The other regions are doing it way more and LI now realizing it’s prob. what needs to be done to be competitive with kids in holdback states like MD. Good for them! If it weren’t them, it would be a 2/3 year holdback from Maryland! LI is just catching up on this holdback craziness! If they don’t do it, chances slim of getting to play in top D1 school. It’s out of hand now.

Yes! Great justification

It’s great to be a Outlaw!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

And the top 2021 was also a holdback. Funny how people on this board complain about other states with holdbacks yet the top recruit in the nation in 2021 and 2022 are Long Island holdback! Classic.

Because, to be the top recruit they will prob always be a holdback going forward!! LI has had to catch up on the holdback scene. The other regions are doing it way more and LI now realizing it’s prob. what needs to be done to be competitive with kids in holdback states like MD. Good for them! If it weren’t them, it would be a 2/3 year holdback from Maryland! LI is just catching up on this holdback craziness! If they don’t do it, chances slim of getting to play in top D1 school. It’s out of hand now.

Yes! Great justification

Don’t know about justification? But, definitely “realization”! If the sport allows this practice to continue, it’s almost impossible not to do it. In order to stay competitive in the highest levels that extra 1/2 years of growth and training gives you. Truthfully, I think the sport needs to go age based. Not sure what ruling body can change the rules at the youth/club levels? But, they should definitely consider it! Make it a more fair playing field early on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

And the top 2021 was also a holdback. Funny how people on this board complain about other states with holdbacks yet the top recruit in the nation in 2021 and 2022 are Long Island holdback! Classic.

Because, to be the top recruit they will prob always be a holdback going forward!! LI has had to catch up on the holdback scene. The other regions are doing it way more and LI now realizing it’s prob. what needs to be done to be competitive with kids in holdback states like MD. Good for them! If it weren’t them, it would be a 2/3 year holdback from Maryland! LI is just catching up on this holdback craziness! If they don’t do it, chances slim of getting to play in top D1 school. It’s out of hand now.

Yes! Great justification

Don’t know about justification? But, definitely “realization”! If the sport allows this practice to continue, it’s almost impossible not to do it. In order to stay competitive in the highest levels that extra 1/2 years of growth and training gives you. Truthfully, I think the sport needs to go age based. Not sure what ruling body can change the rules at the youth/club levels? But, they should definitely consider it! Make it a more fair playing field early on.

US Lacrosse can but has chosen not to

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

And the top 2021 was also a holdback. Funny how people on this board complain about other states with holdbacks yet the top recruit in the nation in 2021 and 2022 are Long Island holdback! Classic.

Because, to be the top recruit they will prob always be a holdback going forward!! LI has had to catch up on the holdback scene. The other regions are doing it way more and LI now realizing it’s prob. what needs to be done to be competitive with kids in holdback states like MD. Good for them! If it weren’t them, it would be a 2/3 year holdback from Maryland! LI is just catching up on this holdback craziness! If they don’t do it, chances slim of getting to play in top D1 school. It’s out of hand now.

Yes! Great justification

Don’t know about justification? But, definitely “realization”! If the sport allows this practice to continue, it’s almost impossible not to do it. In order to stay competitive in the highest levels that extra 1/2 years of growth and training gives you. Truthfully, I think the sport needs to go age based. Not sure what ruling body can change the rules at the youth/club levels? But, they should definitely consider it! Make it a more fair playing field early on.

US Lacrosse can but has chosen not to

Very few of the club tournaments have anything to do with US Lacrosse. Tournaments set their own age rules. As long as the cash is flowing in they don't care. It won't change until there is a legal challenge or accident and someone goes after the ownership for damages.

I would agree that unfortunately nothing is going to happen unless someone gets seriously injured and the ensuing lawsuit would bring about the change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Top 2022 IS a 2021. He is a holdback. 6-3-02

And the top 2021 was also a holdback. Funny how people on this board complain about other states with holdbacks yet the top recruit in the nation in 2021 and 2022 are Long Island holdback! Classic.

Because, to be the top recruit they will prob always be a holdback going forward!! LI has had to catch up on the holdback scene. The other regions are doing it way more and LI now realizing it’s prob. what needs to be done to be competitive with kids in holdback states like MD. Good for them! If it weren’t them, it would be a 2/3 year holdback from Maryland! LI is just catching up on this holdback craziness! If they don’t do it, chances slim of getting to play in top D1 school. It’s out of hand now.

Yes! Great justification

Don’t know about justification? But, definitely “realization”! If the sport allows this practice to continue, it’s almost impossible not to do it. In order to stay competitive in the highest levels that extra 1/2 years of growth and training gives you. Truthfully, I think the sport needs to go age based. Not sure what ruling body can change the rules at the youth/club levels? But, they should definitely consider it! Make it a more fair playing field early on.

US Lacrosse can but has chosen not to

Why should they? This argument is close to 15 years old, know what's changed.......nothing. Want to know what's going to change in the future? Nothing

Reforming a folded club more news to follow!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reforming a folded club more news to follow!

Jesters? In my opinion we need less clubs and ones that actually have competitive B teams vs secondary club A teams. Legacy/Rush in this grade is a great example of what we need more of. Look at how Legacy put themselves together originally… I believe they absorbed the Dune Dawgs and Tide, and now taking another step in that direction, in this grade anyway. Reforming a folded club won’t work unless it’s a combination of 3 or 4 clubs, again in my opinion. I am also of the option that any new should be different and avoid the typical headliners, less expensive vs big clubs, one team only, limited roster, no dad coaches, nobody really cares about that. The expectation is practice year round with dedicated, reputable and fully engaged coaches.

Totally agree about the dad coaches, it's sickening. If you're on a team with a daddy coach, do yourself a favor and get out of there ASAP. We all know why they're doing it. If they were actually a good coach, they would know better than to be a coach on a team their kid plays on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree about the dad coaches, it's sickening. If you're on a team with a daddy coach, do yourself a favor and get out of there ASAP. We all know why they're doing it. If they were actually a good coach, they would know better than to be a coach on a team their kid plays on.

It does depend. Lotsa dad coaches are good coaches and balance things. And some don’t.

It’s great to be a Outlaw!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree about the dad coaches, it's sickening. If you're on a team with a daddy coach, do yourself a favor and get out of there ASAP. We all know why they're doing it. If they were actually a good coach, they would know better than to be a coach on a team their kid plays on.

It does depend. Lotsa dad coaches are good coaches and balance things. And some don’t.

Sounds like something a daddy coach would say lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s great to be a Outlaw!

What’s next Team LI, Stampede, Havoc, Ducks, Dune Dawgs, Rough Riders, etc etc… suggest maybe a new name vs reforming the old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reforming a folded club more news to follow!

Jesters? In my opinion we need less clubs and ones that actually have competitive B teams vs secondary club A teams. Legacy/Rush in this grade is a great example of what we need more of. Look at how Legacy put themselves together originally… I believe they absorbed the Dune Dawgs and Tide, and now taking another step in that direction, in this grade anyway. Reforming a folded club won’t work unless it’s a combination of 3 or 4 clubs, again in my opinion. I am also of the option that any new should be different and avoid the typical headliners, less expensive vs big clubs, one team only, limited roster, no dad coaches, nobody really cares about that. The expectation is practice year round with dedicated, reputable and fully engaged coaches.

What we need is some ex lax Wall Street billionaire who could care less about whether the club makes any money. All of these clubs are businesses first which leads to all the problems (daddy coaches, big rosters, pay for play clinics, rising tuitions, diluted B and C teams, conflicted tournament selection)

Their were clubs on long island that were trying something different other then making as much money as possible! But clubs like express and 91 started the free play garbage trying to make their A teams the best and having a bunch of B and C teams to pay for them! That’s when everything thing started going bad, thanks coach C and Express!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reforming a folded club more news to follow!

Jesters? In my opinion we need less clubs and ones that actually have competitive B teams vs secondary club A teams. Legacy/Rush in this grade is a great example of what we need more of. Look at how Legacy put themselves together originally… I believe they absorbed the Dune Dawgs and Tide, and now taking another step in that direction, in this grade anyway. Reforming a folded club won’t work unless it’s a combination of 3 or 4 clubs, again in my opinion. I am also of the option that any new should be different and avoid the typical headliners, less expensive vs big clubs, one team only, limited roster, no dad coaches, nobody really cares about that. The expectation is practice year round with dedicated, reputable and fully engaged coaches.

What we need is some ex lax Wall Street billionaire who could care less about whether the club makes any money. All of these clubs are businesses first which leads to all the problems (daddy coaches, big rosters, pay for play clinics, rising tuitions, diluted B and C teams, conflicted tournament selection)

Well they should make money. But there is way to offer a product and produce a great product. The problem is too many value winning above all else.

So… now that National teams are becoming the bigger thing. Will this become the norm? Most top Tri-State (CT, NY, NJ, LI) teams are somewhat regional now and some have players from way further. Not for or against it, just an observation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So… now that National teams are becoming the bigger thing. Will this become the norm? Most top Tri-State (CT, NY, NJ, LI) teams are somewhat regional now and some have players from way further. Not for or against it, just an observation.

I think you will see more of it because---

1: the clubs can extract more money from you.
2: the bragging rights are great... my kid plays on the AA team, well, that's good but my kid plays on the national team!!!
3: parents will pay for the bragging rights.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So… now that National teams are becoming the bigger thing. Will this become the norm? Most top Tri-State (CT, NY, NJ, LI) teams are somewhat regional now and some have players from way further. Not for or against it, just an observation.

I think you will see more of it because---

1: the clubs can extract more money from you.
2: the bragging rights are great... my kid plays on the AA team, well, that's good but my kid plays on the national team!!!
3: parents will pay for the bragging rights.

I will say the social media presence is at all highs for some of these clubs. And guess what… the parents and kids love it!! The Rebels are non stop with it and I think it’s great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree about the dad coaches, it's sickening. If you're on a team with a daddy coach, do yourself a favor and get out of there ASAP. We all know why they're doing it. If they were actually a good coach, they would know better than to be a coach on a team their kid plays on.

It does depend. Lotsa dad coaches are good coaches and balance things. And some don’t.

Sounds like something a daddy coach would say lol

2025 kids are in high school now, there's no room for daddy coaches at this age! Get a life!

Wake up call: If your kid is playing on a kiddie Lax team for parental "Bragging Rights" then you have failed yourself and even worse, you have failed your kids. That's pathetic man!

Dad coaches are on early level of club lax from A to B. And yes some do favor players and some do not. Every situation is different. I am sure people can list examples and of the best and worst and everything in between.

There's really no place for dad coaches beyond maybe 6th grade and even that is a stretch in my opinion. They are either looking for a free tuition or want to control their kids playing time. Even if they are a good coach, it does not outweigh the perception of the parents and the doubt that it causes as to their motivation for doing it. Basically, have enough sense to walk away.

Crush DEFINITELY had a least two Reclassed/holdback players so slow your roll. That being said, they still would've been Crush without that defenseman and middie...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's really no place for dad coaches beyond maybe 6th grade and even that is a stretch in my opinion. They are either looking for a free tuition or want to control their kids playing time. Even if they are a good coach, it does not outweigh the perception of the parents and the doubt that it causes as to their motivation for doing it. Basically, have enough sense to walk away.

Sounds like a good argument. Your kid stars for what team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's really no place for dad coaches beyond maybe 6th grade and even that is a stretch in my opinion. They are either looking for a free tuition or want to control their kids playing time. Even if they are a good coach, it does not outweigh the perception of the parents and the doubt that it causes as to their motivation for doing it. Basically, have enough sense to walk away.

100%. Find a club daddy coach whose kid doesn't start on the team and stay on the field 75% of the game. Sometimes they are good players, but not always that good. You can't name one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reforming a folded club more news to follow!

Jesters? In my opinion we need less clubs and ones that actually have competitive B teams vs secondary club A teams. Legacy/Rush in this grade is a great example of what we need more of. Look at how Legacy put themselves together originally… I believe they absorbed the Dune Dawgs and Tide, and now taking another step in that direction, in this grade anyway. Reforming a folded club won’t work unless it’s a combination of 3 or 4 clubs, again in my opinion. I am also of the option that any new should be different and avoid the typical headliners, less expensive vs big clubs, one team only, limited roster, no dad coaches, nobody really cares about that. The expectation is practice year round with dedicated, reputable and fully engaged coaches.

What we need is some ex lax Wall Street billionaire who could care less about whether the club makes any money. All of these clubs are businesses first which leads to all the problems (daddy coaches, big rosters, pay for play clinics, rising tuitions, diluted B and C teams, conflicted tournament selection)

Well they should make money. But there is way to offer a product and produce a great product. The problem is too many value winning above all else.

If you want less clubs, stop paying for them. If you think prices are too high, stop paying them. You think rosters are too large, find a smaller one. Here’s the issue, their is a lot of expendable income in the LI lax community. Many people will pay just so that their kid plays a sport he likes and gets better at it. The big clubs charge a lot because there is a line of suckers at the door with open checkbooks. People think that if their kid plays for 91 or Express they are going to be recruited to a top D1 program. It’s simply not true. Look no further than the current recruitment class. The Bandit have 10 absolute studs on their team. They are all committed to great programs. However, they also have 10-12 slightly above average kids that are not getting a single call because they don’t play. Furthermore, big clubs have a definite pecking order when it comes to recruiting. 91 is already pushing the Wolfpack kids over the 2nd line Bandits. The bottom line is that your kid needs to play. Find the best team that gets him on the field. And do it now, because next year is too late.

Not every kid plays club lacrosse to get recruited or play college ball. My kid doesn't start but plays enough for him to still enjoy. It's a shame that after years with the same team the roster will turn over just so his coach can brag that x amount of kids are committed (most to schools they would need lacrosse anyways). He'll still most likely play 4 years of HS at a pretty high level. After that he'll attend one of the top universities in the country because of his grades and test scores, NOT lacrosse. Good luck your winter showcases and the recruiting grind, spend time with your family while they're still around. Ask yourself who's really pushing who to play in college. 99% on this forum think their kid is playing in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reforming a folded club more news to follow!

Jesters? In my opinion we need less clubs and ones that actually have competitive B teams vs secondary club A teams. Legacy/Rush in this grade is a great example of what we need more of. Look at how Legacy put themselves together originally… I believe they absorbed the Dune Dawgs and Tide, and now taking another step in that direction, in this grade anyway. Reforming a folded club won’t work unless it’s a combination of 3 or 4 clubs, again in my opinion. I am also of the option that any new should be different and avoid the typical headliners, less expensive vs big clubs, one team only, limited roster, no dad coaches, nobody really cares about that. The expectation is practice year round with dedicated, reputable and fully engaged coaches.

What we need is some ex lax Wall Street billionaire who could care less about whether the club makes any money. All of these clubs are businesses first which leads to all the problems (daddy coaches, big rosters, pay for play clinics, rising tuitions, diluted B and C teams, conflicted tournament selection)

Well they should make money. But there is way to offer a product and produce a great product. The problem is too many value winning above all else.

If you want less clubs, stop paying for them. If you think prices are too high, stop paying them. You think rosters are too large, find a smaller one. Here’s the issue, their is a lot of expendable income in the LI lax community. Many people will pay just so that their kid plays a sport he likes and gets better at it. The big clubs charge a lot because there is a line of suckers at the door with open checkbooks. People think that if their kid plays for 91 or Express they are going to be recruited to a top D1 program. It’s simply not true. Look no further than the current recruitment class. The Bandit have 10 absolute studs on their team. They are all committed to great programs. However, they also have 10-12 slightly above average kids that are not getting a single call because they don’t play. Furthermore, big clubs have a definite pecking order when it comes to recruiting. 91 is already pushing the Wolfpack kids over the 2nd line Bandits. The bottom line is that your kid needs to play. Find the best team that gets him on the field. And do it now, because next year is too late.

Great points and I think you agree, there is a different way. Unfortunately, committed players and wins posted on social media translate to an increased revenue stream I think. And also, look at how many kids are being recruited from Florida, Georgia, Texas and other parts of the country vs 5 years ago. The opportunity to play D1 is now more and more competitive and becoming highly selective. And the number of D1 schools isn’t growing at a commensurate rate. So guess what, if you’re a 2023 with no looks. Wait it out through the spring and start with the D2 and D3s, a lot great lax is being played there. Go watch and Amherst v Tufts game and see what you think.

Its all a money generator.... Everyone knows it. Pay the fees, eat the political nonsense or dont play. Its not rocket science.

Club lacrosse has destroyed youth lacrosse much the same way AAU basketball teams did to youth basketball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club lacrosse has destroyed youth lacrosse much the same way AAU basketball teams did to youth basketball

So your son is as bad at lax as you were in hoops? People pay a lot of money for this clinical advice. What you have is projection issues. Have a good day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's really no place for dad coaches beyond maybe 6th grade and even that is a stretch in my opinion. They are either looking for a free tuition or want to control their kids playing time. Even if they are a good coach, it does not outweigh the perception of the parents and the doubt that it causes as to their motivation for doing it. Basically, have enough sense to walk away.

100%. Find a club daddy coach whose kid doesn't start on the team and stay on the field 75% of the game. Sometimes they are good players, but not always that good. You can't name one.

The dad coach, the team "mom" and the group of dads surrounding the coach between every game laughing at all his jokes. They all have an agenda and are trying to do whatever it takes to give their kid an advantage. Everyone has an angle and nobody is doing it out of the goodness of their heart. The funny part is they all think that they are fooling everyone. Believe me, people aren't that notIntelligent. Everyone is fully aware of what you're doing and why you're doing it.

So PAL has decided to play Sat/Sun this spring. Going to shoot themselves in the foot. Should keep Sundays. I think most believe in playing with town kids. Now your making kids decide to play with Club or PAL saturdays. Most kids will choose Club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PAL has decided to play Sat/Sun this spring. Going to shoot themselves in the foot. Should keep Sundays. I think most believe in playing with town kids. Now your making kids decide to play with Club or PAL saturdays. Most kids will choose Club

2025s don't play PAL anymore. Also, travel tournaments really don't pick up until after the school and PAL seasons are over. Are you trying to deflect the conversation in a different direction for some reason?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PAL has decided to play Sat/Sun this spring. Going to shoot themselves in the foot. Should keep Sundays. I think most believe in playing with town kids. Now your making kids decide to play with Club or PAL saturdays. Most kids will choose Club

I would love to ask PAL, if you are all about development and fair play why isn’t lacrosse run like football? And go by age? Does any PAL director have any insight on that? Why follow club rules? Shouldn’t PAL follow US lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PAL has decided to play Sat/Sun this spring. Going to shoot themselves in the foot. Should keep Sundays. I think most believe in playing with town kids. Now your making kids decide to play with Club or PAL saturdays. Most kids will choose Club

I would love to ask PAL, if you are all about development and fair play why isn’t lacrosse run like football? And go by age? Does any PAL director have any insight on that? Why follow club rules? Shouldn’t PAL follow US lacrosse?

PAL has also been taken over by greedy directors! Yes I know PAL is supposed to be non profit but we all know this is BS. When your PAL team price goes up by 40% it starts to make you think🤔

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PAL has decided to play Sat/Sun this spring. Going to shoot themselves in the foot. Should keep Sundays. I think most believe in playing with town kids. Now your making kids decide to play with Club or PAL saturdays. Most kids will choose Club

These kids are in HS. Who is still playing PAL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas
?

You mean Seaford.

It doesn’t matter to anybody except the kid from here that practices with the team year round and gets minutes taken away. Happens now with all the clubs and nice thing is there is a lot choice to play elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas
?

You mean Seaford.

It doesn’t matter to anybody except the kid from here that practices with the team year round and gets minutes taken away. Happens now with all the clubs and nice thing is there is a lot choice to play elsewhere.

It's been said before but I'll say it again for you slow learners. The "Texas" kid has been with 91 since 3rd grade. His family only moved to Texas last year. Maybe some people are jealous because his parents can afford to fly from Texas for lacrosse. Maybe some are jealous because he's possibly the best 2025 lefty attack in 2025 on LI. I don't know. Either way, if someone is upset about playing behind him, find another team. He's not going anywhere and he's not going to be playing on the second line.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas
?

You mean Seaford.

It doesn’t matter to anybody except the kid from here that practices with the team year round and gets minutes taken away. Happens now with all the clubs and nice thing is there is a lot choice to play elsewhere.

It's been said before but I'll say it again for you slow learners. The "Texas" kid has been with 91 since 3rd grade. His family only moved to Texas last year. Maybe some people are jealous because his parents can afford to fly from Texas for lacrosse. Maybe some are jealous because he's possibly the best 2025 lefty attack in 2025 on LI. I don't know. Either way, if someone is upset about playing behind him, find another team. He's not going anywhere and he's not going to be playing on the second line.

Not on 91, but that kid is the best attacker in the grade! If 91 parents are unhappy we would love to have him play for our team. Just don’t see what the big deal is, he’s been on that team forever.

Not a big deal since this is the norm more and more and most teams have kids on the roster from several states. And more clubs also now National teams. Saw the Rebels are starting one. Only point is if practice is missing 3 or 4 kids because of geography and they play in tourneys, that would frustrate me as a parent. But since my son is not on the team, it’s none of my business. It’s HS, I am of the opinion that your son has to be on a team where he plays meaningful minutes. Meaning does the coach trust him play in the game when it’s tied?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Got to credit to Shock. They really did not play vs any heavy competition this fall, until today. Even though they lost, everyone has lost to that 91MD team. They beat Sweetlax and lost by 2 in the ship.

The game played yesterday was an outstanding battle. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

Great game. Did they bring in the kid from Texas
?

You mean Seaford.

It doesn’t matter to anybody except the kid from here that practices with the team year round and gets minutes taken away. Happens now with all the clubs and nice thing is there is a lot choice to play elsewhere.

It's been said before but I'll say it again for you slow learners. The "Texas" kid has been with 91 since 3rd grade. His family only moved to Texas last year. Maybe some people are jealous because his parents can afford to fly from Texas for lacrosse. Maybe some are jealous because he's possibly the best 2025 lefty attack in 2025 on LI. I don't know. Either way, if someone is upset about playing behind him, find another team. He's not going anywhere and he's not going to be playing on the second line.

The fogo from Texas is new though right? Replacing LI kid thats been on the team for a while?

Previous 2025 fogo reclassed. Current fogo who is one of the best at the age jumped over from another team so he wasn’t splitting reps only to find out he was splitting with someone who most likely only pays for the tournaments

It doesn’t matter to anybody except the kid from here that practices with the team year round and gets minutes taken away. Happens now with all the clubs and nice thing is there is a lot choice to play elsewhere.[/quote]

It's been said before but I'll say it again for you slow learners. The "Texas" kid has been with 91 since 3rd grade. His family only moved to Texas last year. Maybe some people are jealous because his parents can afford to fly from Texas for lacrosse. Maybe some are jealous because he's possibly the best 2025 lefty attack in 2025 on LI. I don't know. Either way, if someone is upset about playing behind him, find another team. He's not going anywhere and he's not going to be playing on the second line.[/quote]

Not on 91, but that kid is the best attacker in the grade! If 91 parents are unhappy we would love to have him play for our team. Just don’t see what the big deal is, he’s been on that team forever.[/quote]

Great player but not tops in the grade. That’s reserved for the kid with size, quickness and can play with both hands or a legacy. Too much lax royalty in 2025. The hype machine behind some of the high profile daddy kids will carry them. There is room for everyone so not a big deal.

And for the record 91 has 4 kids from Texas, 2 from PA, 2 from CT. Will continue to collect players from all over to pad the recruiting stats

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It doesn’t matter to anybody except the kid from here that practices with the team year round and gets minutes taken away. Happens now with all the clubs and nice thing is there is a lot choice to play elsewhere.

It's been said before but I'll say it again for you slow learners. The "Texas" kid has been with 91 since 3rd grade. His family only moved to Texas last year. Maybe some people are jealous because his parents can afford to fly from Texas for lacrosse. Maybe some are jealous because he's possibly the best 2025 lefty attack in 2025 on LI. I don't know. Either way, if someone is upset about playing behind him, find another team. He's not going anywhere and he's not going to be playing on the second line.[/quote]

Not on 91, but that kid is the best attacker in the grade! If 91 parents are unhappy we would love to have him play for our team. Just don’t see what the big deal is, he’s been on that team forever.[/quote]

Great player but not tops in the grade. That’s reserved for the kid with size, quickness and can play with both hands or a legacy. Too much lax royalty in 2025. The hype machine behind some of the high profile daddy kids will carry them. There is room for everyone so not a big deal.

And for the record 91 has 4 kids from Texas, 2 from PA, 2 from CT. Will continue to collect players from all over to pad the recruiting stats[/quote]

A lot clubs are now made of rosters from multiple states. Seems like some clubs just take the fall lightly and play a few away tourneys that provides for travel for all and the locals will play box all fall and winter. And then back to field and play 4 or 5 events in the summer. Seems like a decent model for some.

This isn't the WSYL. There are no limits on distance or practices for players in club lacrosse. Most of the bigger club organizations are attempting to franchise their brand to other areas and/or create national teams. It's all about draining as much money out of your pocket as they can. It's been said on here a hundred times that nobody is looking at 2025's, yet people continue to shell out a fortune to travel and compete in showcase events, than they come on here and complain about a kid coming in from another state. Seriously get a life.

I think you will have to check the size of the kids before you say the are the best attackman plenty of time for kids to grow so lets just slow down with pumping kids up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think you will have to check the size of the kids before you say the are the best attackman plenty of time for kids to grow so lets just slow down with pumping kids up

How many proclaimed 14/15 year old AOTY have gone on to rule college and pro lacrosse? Probably not many

Who cares? That was July of 2021... Lets talk about 2022 and the teams on LI

[quote=Anonymous]This isn't the WSYL. There are no limits on distance or practices for players in club lacrosse. Most of the bigger club organizations are attempting to franchise their brand to other areas and/or create national teams. It's all about draining as much money out of your pocket as they can. It's been said on here a hundred times that nobody is looking at 2025's, yet people continue to shell out a fortune to travel and compete in showcase events, than they come on here and complain about a kid coming in from another state. Seriously get a life.[/quot

Absolutely correct!!

Everyone on this thread is praying their kid plays college lacrosse. News flash, 99.99% of people don’t care about the sport. That’s why it’s never on tv and the stands are always empty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone on this thread is praying their kid plays college lacrosse. News flash, 99.99% of people don’t care about the sport. That’s why it’s never on tv and the stands are always empty.

Lol, okay.

Yet here you are, on a message board proclaiming how now one cares about the sport. Ironic isn’t it.

Granted Long Island has always been a hotbed of lacrosse and we follow it closely. The reality is that nationally it's not a draw. Most of the people at college games are the family and friends of the players. As far as TV goes, other than football and mens basketball, very few people are watching college sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone on this thread is praying their kid plays college lacrosse. News flash, 99.99% of people don’t care about the sport. That’s why it’s never on tv and the stands are always empty.

Says the guy on the lacrosse forum. Sounds like your kid quit and you're pissed you can't live through his eyes. Pathetic

Granted it’s not a big money sport. But lacrosse 397 NCAA teams exist…give or take. And landing a D1 roster has become more competitive than ever. Kids from all over the country are now going to high D1 schools. Just look at 2023. 2 of the top 35 are from Long Island. And the S2S OGs are a fantastic team and not one player in the top 50. The game is growing and more and more people care. Just surprised that the number of D1 schools hasn’t increased for mens lax. Like a Stanford, Oregon, FLA or BC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Granted it’s not a big money sport. But lacrosse 397 NCAA teams exist…give or take. And landing a D1 roster has become more competitive than ever. Kids from all over the country are now going to high D1 schools. Just look at 2023. 2 of the top 35 are from Long Island. And the S2S OGs are a fantastic team and not one player in the top 50. The game is growing and more and more people care. Just surprised that the number of D1 schools hasn’t increased for mens lax. Like a Stanford, Oregon, FLA or BC.

care less about the "rankings". How many of the "unranked" kids on 91, S2S, express, igloo are going D1? Does it matter they weren't ranked?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Granted it’s not a big money sport. But lacrosse 397 NCAA teams exist…give or take. And landing a D1 roster has become more competitive than ever. Kids from all over the country are now going to high D1 schools. Just look at 2023. 2 of the top 35 are from Long Island. And the S2S OGs are a fantastic team and not one player in the top 50. The game is growing and more and more people care. Just surprised that the number of D1 schools hasn’t increased for mens lax. Like a Stanford, Oregon, FLA or BC.

care less about the "rankings". How many of the "unranked" kids on 91, S2S, express, igloo are going D1? Does it matter they weren't ranked?

D2 and D3 likely. It takes a while, after several showcases and prospect days to come to that realization, but most get there eventually.

College Lacrosse Discussion Page
Jamey Hebb · gt2on11u98t2l2200229h89d4c ·
A group member who shall remain nameless reached out to another page admin with some thoughts and reminders about the recruiting process for HS players, especially those outside of the Top 50, and I want to paraphrase, summarize, and sprinkle my own thoughts here for the benefit of fellow current and future HS lacrosse parents.

I grew up with parents who stressed that the biggest objective when you play sports is to HAVE FUN. Practice hard, play hard, play to win, but more than anything else remember that it's just a game and games are played for enjoyment as well as competition.

The game of lacrosse has grown, and continues to grow, exponentially over the past 20+ years. I spent three years working in California pre-pandemic, and was amazed and pleased by how many kids I saw on the west coast with sticks. All over the US there are HS athletes playing lacrosse at a pretty high level, where it used to be Baltimore/Annapolis and Long Island/Upstate NY that produced virtually all of the best college players.

This particular lacrosse parent (whose sons are both top tier lacrosse players themselves), made an observation that has occasionally been discussed in this forum but bears repeating. In a nutshell, it is for parents and kids not to get overly stressed out or concerned over which school they play for and what NCAA division they play in.

College admissions and college choice should be about academics first and sports second, which is why the term scholar-athlete is phrased in the order it is. Not every kid can study at Harvard just like not every kid can play lacrosse at UVA. And guess what? That's totally okay!

So enjoy the journey with your player(s), fellow lacrosse parents. Make sure first and foremost that your son or daughter goes to the SCHOOL they want to attend, without the focus being on the conference or division or national ranking in lacrosse. If your kid is a D1 talent, congratulations. If your kid is a D2 or D3 talent, I extend the same exact amount of praise and congratulations as I do to the D1 kid and his/her parents.

Set realistic expectations throughout his/her HS years. Make sure your child knows that you will be every bit as proud of him/her wherever they end up playing, even if it's a program no one is familiar with. Pursue an Ivy League education if the grades are there and that's what they want to do, or go to one of the MANY great D2 or D3 schools, or one of the service academies if that's appealing (everyone gets a full ride there).

I'll close with this. Many years back I was at a local Baltimore watering hole with a bunch of fellow old guys who were all former teammates or opponents. Someone asked what we thought the biggest single difference was between when we played HS lacrosse (the '70s and early to mid '80s) versus the kids playing today and the consensus answer was that we played FOR FUN. We didn't play year round, we all played different sports in different seasons, and it was all about the competition - other MSA 'A' Conference schools - and having FUN.

Wherever your son or daughter ends up playing, it's important to remember that having fun while competing is the real goal and reward, in addition to furthering his/her education.

Dude, 1 sentence in and I was bored. Go back to sleep. Its a kiddie lax forum, not the Confucius Journal...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Granted it’s not a big money sport. But lacrosse 397 NCAA teams exist…give or take. And landing a D1 roster has become more competitive than ever. Kids from all over the country are now going to high D1 schools. Just look at 2023. 2 of the top 35 are from Long Island. And the S2S OGs are a fantastic team and not one player in the top 50. The game is growing and more and more people care. Just surprised that the number of D1 schools hasn’t increased for mens lax. Like a Stanford, Oregon, FLA or BC.

The reason there is no growth at the D1 level is Title 9. It is next to impossible to add a 40-50 player roster in the SEC, Pac12, ACC etc without taking away football slots, which is not going to happen. It’s why they have been adding Womens programs at those schools. They can then add more to the revenue+ football teams

Watched Jets/Shock play today and surprised how well they play box. I guess they just focus on box all winter with the locals kids. That clearly translates to field because they really sharp passing. And moved it lightening fast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College Lacrosse Discussion Page
Jamey Hebb · gt2on11u98t2l2200229h89d4c ·
A group member who shall remain nameless reached out to another page admin with some thoughts and reminders about the recruiting process for HS players, especially those outside of the Top 50, and I want to paraphrase, summarize, and sprinkle my own thoughts here for the benefit of fellow current and future HS lacrosse parents.

I grew up with parents who stressed that the biggest objective when you play sports is to HAVE FUN. Practice hard, play hard, play to win, but more than anything else remember that it's just a game and games are played for enjoyment as well as competition.

The game of lacrosse has grown, and continues to grow, exponentially over the past 20+ years. I spent three years working in California pre-pandemic, and was amazed and pleased by how many kids I saw on the west coast with sticks. All over the US there are HS athletes playing lacrosse at a pretty high level, where it used to be Baltimore/Annapolis and Long Island/Upstate NY that produced virtually all of the best college players.

This particular lacrosse parent (whose sons are both top tier lacrosse players themselves), made an observation that has occasionally been discussed in this forum but bears repeating. In a nutshell, it is for parents and kids not to get overly stressed out or concerned over which school they play for and what NCAA division they play in.

College admissions and college choice should be about academics first and sports second, which is why the term scholar-athlete is phrased in the order it is. Not every kid can study at Harvard just like not every kid can play lacrosse at UVA. And guess what? That's totally okay!

So enjoy the journey with your player(s), fellow lacrosse parents. Make sure first and foremost that your son or daughter goes to the SCHOOL they want to attend, without the focus being on the conference or division or national ranking in lacrosse. If your kid is a D1 talent, congratulations. If your kid is a D2 or D3 talent, I extend the same exact amount of praise and congratulations as I do to the D1 kid and his/her parents.

Set realistic expectations throughout his/her HS years. Make sure your child knows that you will be every bit as proud of him/her wherever they end up playing, even if it's a program no one is familiar with. Pursue an Ivy League education if the grades are there and that's what they want to do, or go to one of the MANY great D2 or D3 schools, or one of the service academies if that's appealing (everyone gets a full ride there).

I'll close with this. Many years back I was at a local Baltimore watering hole with a bunch of fellow old guys who were all former teammates or opponents. Someone asked what we thought the biggest single difference was between when we played HS lacrosse (the '70s and early to mid '80s) versus the kids playing today and the consensus answer was that we played FOR FUN. We didn't play year round, we all played different sports in different seasons, and it was all about the competition - other MSA 'A' Conference schools - and having FUN.

Wherever your son or daughter ends up playing, it's important to remember that having fun while competing is the real goal and reward, in addition to furthering his/her education.

This story is so made up it’s silly. The best part is when you say don’t worry about where your kids play but then have to point out your kids are “top tier lacrosse players” The watering hole story is also made up. Get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree about the dad coaches, it's sickening. If you're on a team with a daddy coach, do yourself a favor and get out of there ASAP. We all know why they're doing it. If they were actually a good coach, they would know better than to be a coach on a team their kid plays on.

It does depend. Lotsa dad coaches are good coaches and balance things. And some don’t.

Sounds like something a daddy coach would say lol

Indeed. And every situation is different. From the best teams to low B teams. A lot have dads coaching. And like anything else, some are there for their kid and some can balance it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally agree about the dad coaches, it's sickening. If you're on a team with a daddy coach, do yourself a favor and get out of there ASAP. We all know why they're doing it. If they were actually a good coach, they would know better than to be a coach on a team their kid plays on.

It does depend. Lotsa dad coaches are good coaches and balance things. And some don’t.

Sounds like something a daddy coach would say lol

Indeed. And every situation is different. From the best teams to low B teams. A lot have dads coaching. And like anything else, some are there for their kid and some can balance it.

The dad coach mentality was unavoidable in PAL because nobody else was going to do it. Now that these kids only play for clubs and school, the dad coaches need to go away. Stop trying to control your son's playing time and pay the tuition like everyone else.

The tuition isn’t commensurate with what is done. Granted some dads may be there for other reasons, but that is for the consumer to evaluate. Good thing is there is so much choice of clubs.

Blahblahblahblah!

Going to be some hard decisions and ego checks for this group in a few weeks. Some kids will be asked to play varsity some won't. If you get pulled up to varsity and just sit never playing, is that better than playing full time on JV? For some it may be, but let your kid decide with your guidance. It should be about coaching and if he's getting better. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to be some hard decisions and ego checks for this group in a few weeks. Some kids will be asked to play varsity some won't. If you get pulled up to varsity and just sit never playing, is that better than playing full time on JV? For some it may be, but let your kid decide with your guidance. It should be about coaching and if he's getting better. Good luck to all.

If your son is asked, he should go and see how well he can compete. Likely less minutes now, but it will increase year over year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to be some hard decisions and ego checks for this group in a few weeks. Some kids will be asked to play varsity some won't. If you get pulled up to varsity and just sit never playing, is that better than playing full time on JV? For some it may be, but let your kid decide with your guidance. It should be about coaching and if he's getting better. Good luck to all.

If your son is asked, he should go and see how well he can compete. Likely less minutes now, but it will increase year over year.

Realistically, if you’re son isn’t going to play on varsity, he shouldn’t even be brought up, nor should you want him to be. With that being said, most of you desperately want to tell people that your son is on varsity so you will push for it. Go watch a varsity practice. Most coaches spend half the practice running through offense and defense with the starters and the rest are standing around watching. That’s reality. Maybe a run here or there if someone doesn’t make practice. The move is to stay on JV, hopefully start, build confidence and skill, and contribute quality minutes as a starter next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to be some hard decisions and ego checks for this group in a few weeks. Some kids will be asked to play varsity some won't. If you get pulled up to varsity and just sit never playing, is that better than playing full time on JV? For some it may be, but let your kid decide with your guidance. It should be about coaching and if he's getting better. Good luck to all.

If your son is asked, he should go and see how well he can compete. Likely less minutes now, but it will increase year over year.

Realistically, if you’re son isn’t going to play on varsity, he shouldn’t even be brought up, nor should you want him to be. With that being said, most of you desperately want to tell people that your son is on varsity so you will push for it. Go watch a varsity practice. Most coaches spend half the practice running through offense and defense with the starters and the rest are standing around watching. That’s reality. Maybe a run here or there if someone doesn’t make practice. The move is to stay on JV, hopefully start, build confidence and skill, and contribute quality minutes as a starter next year.

I would say that it depends on the program and how well the JV practices. Sometimes there is a disconnect between Varsity and JV. At our school, it is much better to make varsity and practice with them. They will get runs in the JV games as well. Depending on the player, it can be beneficial to be around the juniors and seniors.

"Going to be some hard decisions and ego checks for this group in a few weeks"

" Going to be some hard decisions and ego checks FOR PARENTS in this group in a few weeks"

there, fixed it.
the kids will all be fine.

I agree kids will be fine

"Unless your kid is playing, why go to Varsity?" For the Jacket? Get a life.. Everyone knows who the kids are that are "On Varisity" and aren't playing. That's called a "Bench Warmer" Its like having a car you cant drive. Wake up silly Lax Rabbits.... Lax is for kids.... but to each their own.

"Going to be some hard decisions and ego checks for this group in a few weeks" Stop WAIT UNTIL THEY GRADUATE and none of this means anything.... Then can re-live those step down shots while they are pumping cesspools, and there is nothing wrong with that. Unless you are the parent that lives for the glory of beer pong conversation and back yard BBQs...

People worry too much about nothing, school lacrosse is meaningless. If your kid is asked to play Varsity as an underclassman just make sure he can handle it physically. Not worth your kid getting hurt for parents to pump up their egos.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People worry too much about nothing, school lacrosse is meaningless. If your kid is asked to play Varsity as an underclassman just make sure he can handle it physically. Not worth your kid getting hurt for parents to pump up their egos.

School lacrosse is not meaningless. I have to disagree there. It’s more important than club or anything else during these years.

Boys Recruiting Thoughts and Help for the Masses

I posted this in the “Boys High School Lacrosse” forum but I am posting this in the 23’s, 24’s, 25s. since they will be affected most by recruiting just to try and generate more conversation as I am curious to other's thoughts

I apologize ahead of time as this is a VERY VERY long post so I left a[b] TL;DR summary[/b] at the top. There are also likely errors in this so I welcome any corrections. I also suspect these thoughts may hold true for the girl’s game but I don’t know anything about girl’s recruiting. Yes, I have too much time on my hands now the kids have moved on.

I am posting this as anonymous – I’m not notIntelligent (haha). This may generate a lot of thoughts, positive or negative but the point is to get a discussion going because I find there is very little actual recruiting help on these forums. I am sure many of the replies will be “bitter parent” “Ok Rebel Parent” or “team91 parent” or “Stunad” or “legacy dad” or “your kid graduated, why are you still on these forums you creeper”, etc. This is just one person’s opinion as someone who has gone through it (kid was a middie, on-age who ended up in a good D3 school) but had some D1 looks / offers so maybe this can be used to help others (or maybe I’m a coach……..). If you feel the need to comment, try to post something constructive. If you don’t like the post; scroll on by.

You may agree with 0%, 50% or 90% of it. It is important to note that these are just generalizations on a Bell Curve; there are always exceptions to the rules: there are some who got recruited way above their pay class and there also talented people who fell far in recruitment. This should apply to most but there are definitely outliers where people have forged their own paths. Tell us your stories!

For those whom this is TL;DR

1) Talent and connections trump everything, which leads into…
2) … being realistic about your kid’s ability as many parents cannot be “objective”
3) Be cognizant of how much you are projecting your own hopes and dreams onto your kid – don’t be that parent.
4) Some of you feel like you are running on a “Hamster Wheel” when it comes to recruiting. Find out what “Hamster Wheel” you want to be on – don’t be afraid to change wheels midstream
5) Have “fun” – but to be perfectly honest, if you are at the level where you are hoping to be recruited, I am not going to sit here and say having fun is the only thing that matters because that is BS. That being said, having fun is still important whether it be lacrosse, long road trips with your kids, having a meal with them, visiting colleges – all are fun.
6) Whatever college or trade school you kid ends up in, it will be perfectly OK in the end
7) Don’t believe what everyone tells you (including me). What may have worked for someone else may not work for you as I can guarantee you kid is so very different from everyone else.
8) Lacrosse is finite – don’t make short term decisions with long term consequences. It is Ok to sacrifice saying “my kid got into a low D1 school with poor academics” just for the sake of being D1. It will be better in the long run to apply to a better academic D1 school that has club, the MCLA’s or better academic D3 schools

Soooo, moving on these are the factors that I think of importance (from most to least) to get recruited:

1) Talent – trumps all – if your kid is already a superstar, most of this does not apply to you. If he/she don’t have as much talent, try to be realistic about their high level D1 / D3 dreams. Be very realistic about how your own child grades out. You may think they are superstar but if they haven’t competed on the national stage where the competition is the best, you cannot really know how good your kid is, even if everyone tells you they are the best. Be as objective as possible; rate your kid on a 100 point scale. Most players who are 93+ have a decent chance at a high D1/D3 school. Anything below that, it is going to be more difficult to get into the top schools and don’t punch way above you kid’s weight class when it comes to recruiting as it will lead to disappointment. However, there really is a lock for every key and if your kid really wants to play lacrosse, there are 400+ schools out there to play at. If you don’t have connections or talent, you will have to market the garbage out of yourself – go to showcases, prospect days, make good videos, email (the appropriate amount), sign up for recruiting services. But honestly, most of those all have minimal impact unless you have the connections but it’s all you got at that point.
2) Connections (High / Prep School or Club) – my kid went to several prospect days for schools as well as sent several emails to schools and he never heard a peep from any of them until a coach reached out on his behalf. I truly believe that this is the most important beyond talent. Coaches at all levels are getting hundreds of videos and thousands of email. They simply do not have the time to review them all or even open them. Having a coach call or email, allows you to jump to the top of the food chain (think Chutes and Ladders).
3) Grades – how could I leave this out in the original post! If you don’t have the grades, you aren’t getting into an elite school. Sports will help somewhat but you do have to have some sort of baseline decent grades.
4) Your kid’s High School prestige – there is line somewhere that separates the elite schools for lacrosse from the run-of-the-mill lacrosse high schools. If you are below that line, unless there is an individual connection, your chances of an elite D1/D3 school are slim to none without that connection. That being said, your high school play is still very important for recruiting for the other D1/D2/D3 schools because it is your high school coach that knows you best.
5) Your kid’s Club – same facts hold true as it does (#3) high school. I often get asked what club team should I chose. Do not balk at driving distance as a barrier. Sometimes you will have to drive far to get to a better club. To be honest, I would choose the best, highest ranked club because they play in the best tournaments (NAL, NLF, Crabfeast and Naptown, Great8) and try and get on their A squad at as young an age as possible. That way the club knows your child over time and will go to bat for you eventually. In addition, if you don’t make the top team, it gives you a chance to: work your way up to the A team or look for another club that may suit you better. That brings up the topic of A vs B. In reality, most B teams are not sending players to top D1/D3 schools (some are but that is not the norm). If being at a top lax school is not your goal then A vs B doesn’t matter as much because plenty of B players play college lacrosse. My kid was on a team that did not think much about his game. He was at a small local club and so he made the jump to a national club. He started on their C team and worked his way up to started on the top team so it is possible. Finally, understand these clubs are in the MONEY MAKING business as most are for-profit. They will sell you a bridge to nowhere as long as they get your tuition checks. Here is how I break them down:
a. Some are outright frauds. They don’t care and they just want your money
b. Some put together some half -hearted attempts at recruiting – they go through the motions but are not really making phone calls on your kids behalf
c. Others really only promote their best players. These are also fraudulent as they put all their time and effort into marketing their best players only, while the rest remain tution check to support those best players.
d. Finally, there are some truly excellent programs who will do their best to place a kid anywhere whether it be the best D1 program to the worst D3 program.
e. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention National teams and National tournaments – on paper, it is a very good idea but part of me says there is a money grab aspect. You can even see multiple clubs joining together to make national team (eg CLCA). I think it is the next evolution and I would not be surprised if National tournaments become the norm with local tournaments still existing but becoming second fiddle.
Coaches will tell you they will help you with recruiting but the reality is they do not want to put their name out there to back you if there is a lacrosse:talent mismatch. So if your Johnny rates as an 80, don’t ask your coach to get you into Syracuse because they won’t do it. It is a shame that some clubs promise you the world but don’t help you even though are paying $2000-4000 for your club; for them to not help you is just fraudulent. How to tell if a club is real or not? Look at their website. A good one would post a list of ALL their commits, not just the ones who get into top D1 schools which usually means they had a favorite player. Look at their social media. Are all of their posts only about 1-5 of their top kids? Finally, word of mouth – talk to the older kids and kids who have moved through the program; not the superstars but the average ones who had college lax dreams.
6) Prospect Days – this is the best way to get in front of a school on an individual basis. However, many of these are pure money grabs. We have been to several where no one was filming, coaches had no paper or they were not writing anything down. Clearly no evaluation was going on. It does allow you to get in front of the coaches and look at the campus. But I am somewhat cynical because if you were not already on their radar, a coach didn’t send you, or you were not invited, it is unlikely to be helpful.
7) Showcases- There are so many showcases out there. Many of them are money grabs and really garbage showcases. How do you know what is a good showcase? I wish I knew the answer to that but I can say that if the showcase has a good list of head coaches then it is going to be pretty good. If the communication is pretty good, then that is also a good sign. I will throw it out there and say good ones are Showtime, The Players Series, Spotlight, ECD, Lacrosse Masters, Main Stage, NXT Fall, The Show, Juniors Open, Main Stage. Then there are the average showcases (3D, adrenaline, my lacrosse tournaments, Elite 100, Elite 180, GFW, Q4, Victory, Maryland Showcase). UA and National All Star Games are very good but very political. 1%, FiveStar and Apex are very heavily marketed but have found them to be more glitz than substance. What is important to know is nobody is going to be “discovered” at most of these so do not think your kid is going to show up and “kill it” and get recruited by Duke. Coaches usually have a list of players they are there to see and if the kid does well, then they reach out. Finally, no one cares about wins and losses at showcase so don’t be that parent.
8) Recruiting video – coaches are getting hundreds of video so they may never even open your video or emails. That being said, video is still 100% necessary in this day and age of recruiting. If they do open it, you want your intro to be brief and you want to front load your 5-star highlights. Some say don’t use music; my feeling is they can always mute it. Try to film your own video even though it is a pain in the arse. Much of the paid tournament videos offered are expensive and very poor quality. It is a pain in the butt to film your own highlight video but you will have a much higher quality video that is zoomed in appropriately. Iphone and imovie work perfectly fine or invest in a cheap HD camcorder. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve seen: inappropriate offensive music, not zooming in on your child, including highlights that aren’t highlights, not highlighting /circling your player in the video (you know your kid so it’s easy to pick out for you but most coaches, it’s pretty hard to pick up to the player in that 4 second clip). Some say, don’t make it longer than 2 minutes; my feeling is most coaches aren’t watching past 1 minute (if they open it) and if you give a 6 minute highlight video they can always just shut it off.
9) Position – kids are specializing more and more (SSDM, FOGO, LSM and goalies). If you are really good at your position, you stand a very good chance. If you are mediocre, you better show that you can do other things. At the Prospect Days, I have noticed more and more defenders and less middies which stinks for defense, that stinks because I think that is also the hardest position to get recruited at. Goalies always fill first so get in early. If you are not looking high level, none of this is as important
10) Recruiting profiles (NCSA, SportsRecruit, ConnectLax, CaptainU) – these are likely only helpful for the mid-lower Tier D1, D2, D3 schools. The top schools will not or do not use these services – they do everything through connections.

Additional comments, myths and facts?

1. I am assuming that most people “try to punch up” with their recruiting (ie they will try and overachieve with their lacrosse ambitions) so be patient, be realistic and don’t be disappointed. There is a “lock for every key” as there are over 400 lacrosse colleges. If you really want to play lacrosse, you will find a school.
2. Re-class – there is so much detest on this forum about re-classed players. Unfortunately, it is here to stay until colleges and clubs change their mind (USA Lacrosse has zero ability or desire to change this). Colleges and clubs don’t want to change because they want the most mature and physically gifted players so they could care less that your kid is on-age. Some kids re-class for legit reasons (maturity, academics). But some also re-class to try and get into a better school. IMHO, re-classing is destroying the sport but it’s here to stay. It is completely unfair but totally within the rules. Why on earth would someone re-class for lacrosse reasons only is beyond me. I can’t imagine how dominant my kid would have been if he was going against kids 1 -3 years younger.
3. Lacrosse players are not getting a full scholarship: Full scholarships are uncommon and most will only get a very small amount of money
4. Lacrosse is finite: I think lacrosse carries on forever whether it be a playing in beer league, coaching, raising your own kid, etc. But in terms of a career, very few people go on to make a living out of playing lacrosse. Lacrosse has a finite end and for some it ends after high school; some after college. Don’t make short term decision with long term consequences
5. Commit vs Preferred-Walk-on vs Walk-on – I know very little about this. All I can say is that if you are a preferred walk-on you are on the team but you don’t always travel. If you tryout and walk-on (not preferred), there are generally very little chances or spots at the high collegiate level but probably plenty at the lower caliber schools
6. Prep vs Private vs Catholic – depends what part of the country you live. Not all preps are lacrosse powerhouses nor are all catholic schools. There are a few public schools that carry a lot of weight but chances are your high school does not; you will know
7. PG – from what I have been told, do not PG unless it is arranged ahead of time with a college who specifically said you should PG. There are plenty of PG’s who PG but do so without a college talking to them. There are even PG schools out there. They still eventually get into lacrosse schools but it usually is not a step up to playing for Duke / Virginia / Syracuse / Yale etc. That being said, some need to PG for academic and maturity reasons.
8. How often should I email a coach – I believe coaches are getting hundreds of emails. Chances are, they are not going to read or even open your email (at least at the high D1 or high D3 level). That being said – maybe once a month and always have some sort of update whether it being lacrosse or academic.
9. Don’t be that lacrosse dad or mom. Honestly, be quiet. Don’t coach your son on the field. Don’t yell “wheels” “ward” “offsides” and ride the refs. Coaches do actually notice this. They don’t care so much at the collegiate level because they can limit the parent’s sphere of influence but somewhere in the back of their mind, they are wondering if the apple doesn’t fall from the tree when they are recruiting. No one cares that you were once a superstar or failed athlete. Everyone can see you are projecting who you once were or wanted to be onto your child
10. The Grass is Not Always Greener (See Clubs above) – it’s OK to be a club hopper – we jumped clubs and it worked out for the better but it doesn’t always. Just make sure you are doing it because there are faults with the club and not faults with you or your kid. Most parents cannot tell the difference sadly. If you do go club hopping, make sure you latch on to one before high school because making the change after high school is very difficult
11. The New England region and Long Island used to be center of the lacrosse universe. That is no longer the case. I believe it is currently the MidAtlantic (re-class) but areas such as the South (Fl, GA, TX), Midwest (Il, MI) and West (CA, CO) are producing amazing players along with New England and LI still being very good
12. D1 vs D2 vs D3
a. D1 – I think a lot of kids can play D1 as there are some D1 schools that are not as competitive out there and would be happy to take all sorts of talent. The only thing I would advise is don’t go D1 for the sake of going D1. D1 is also a full time job so they have to juggle academics with their lacrosse.
b. D2 – they do offer scholarships. Some are great schools and great lacrosse programs but academically I have found they are not as good as some of the D1 and D3 schools
c. D3 – I do not believe they offer sport scholarships but will offer other scholarships. Even though D1 is a full time job, D3 is also very busy especially in the spring. The main difference is the 20 hours in the fall that D1 has that D3 does not but D3 still practices in the fall. D3 probably has the largest cohort of schools from incredibly competitive to very mediocre.
d. MCLA – do not overlook these schools. Some are top academic institutions (Stanford, Rice, GaTech, etc)
e. Club lacrosse – also do not overlook this. Totally OK.

Timeline – don’t get sad if all your friends commit on 9/1 of their junior year. D3 doesn’t make offers until later and sometimes D1 makes commitments as late as December of your senior year. Patience, young grasshopper.
1) D1 - You cannot be contacted by anyone for recruiting until September 1 of your junior year. That being said, they can reach out to you with camps and prospect days but not personally. Now obviously kids who verbally commit on 9/1 must have had some contacts with the colleges but most of it is through high school / clubs
2) D2 – June 15 after the sophomore year
3) D3 – I believe they can talk at any time but some of the NESCACs adopt D1 rules. D3 offers do not go out until June (or July?) 1 after their junior year

Choosing a school: it will be a multitude of factors but this is what I think plays into it (in no order)

1) Academics – imho, don’t sacrifice this for lacrosse, but that being said, you will probably be fine at any school depending on what you make out of it
2) D1 vs D2 vs D3 – similar to above – don’t get caught up on the D1 Hamster Wheel – plenty of good options out there
3) Starter vs bench – some kids just want to be part of a process; some need to be the superstar. Find out where your kid is and if you are realistic, it may open doors and don’t shoot for the stars, it may open up a lot of schools.
4) Conference they play in and level of competition
5) Money – it matters. There are some very rich people on these forums who don’t realize that. That being said, most are not getting full sports scholarships.
6) Coaches and their coaching philosophy – this has to be the right fit
7) Lacrosse is finite – don’t choose a school because of a lacrosse

Well I am sure I left a lot out. Let the detest begin (haha). But seriously, try and help out your fellow lax members with something constructive. Everyone enjoy the ride though. It was great for me, my wife and all our kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? That was July of 2021... Lets talk about 2022 and the teams on LI

This group is in HS now and club is almost secondary. The clubs value is now influence for top showcases and connections at the college level. Depending on the HS they can potentially assist as well. But only 3 or 4 kids get selected to play at those top showcases.

High School lacrosse is gone no top college coach is contacting your HS coach they are going all to travel coach that is just the way it is and that is not going to change

High School sports other than football is completely irrelevant. Travel sports has taken over everything. Most schools can't even find competent coaches because nobody wants to do it anymore. Honestly dealing with kids, parents, boosters, off season workouts, etc is probably not worth what they are getting paid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lacrosse is gone no top college coach is contacting your HS coach they are going all to travel coach that is just the way it is and that is not going to change

Agree the case for most schools. The elite public and private school coaches still have connections

Private schools have the edge but again you get what you pay for

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School sports other than football is completely irrelevant. Travel sports has taken over everything. Most schools can't even find competent coaches because nobody wants to do it anymore. Honestly dealing with kids, parents, boosters, off season workouts, etc is probably not worth what they are getting paid.

Maybe for soccer or basketball and some other sports. But I know for a fact coaches have contacted Hs coaches. Club has its place and plays a role. But HS, does play a role as well. To think otherwise is a mistake. But I guess it depends on your school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lacrosse is gone no top college coach is contacting your HS coach they are going all to travel coach that is just the way it is and that is not going to change

You could not be more incorrect. My older son is a junior and was recruited by many D1 schools. Almost every one of those schools had coaches contact his HS coach. No one can tell them more about his ceiling, attitude, leadership and academics than his varsity coach. And he does not attend a high level HS. Right now the focus should be HS. Club ball is primarily summer and playing in the best possible tourneys. Very few coaches are looking at these boys yet, with the exception of the top 5-6 players, and that’s just to see if they are all people are saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School sports other than football is completely irrelevant. Travel sports has taken over everything. Most schools can't even find competent coaches because nobody wants to do it anymore. Honestly dealing with kids, parents, boosters, off season workouts, etc is probably not worth what they are getting paid.

Football on LI is the definition of irrelevant. Unless, of course your son has aspirations of playing RB for the Oneonta Red Dragons. Lacrosse is still the most direct path to a more competitive school and scholarship money. Don’t believe what people tell you about $. If you son is very good, he will get 20-30%. If he had solid academics, 50%+.

Agree that football on LI is irrelevant. I think the point is that football is the only sport where there is no club or travel. The only forum to play is for your school.

I think colleges should reach out to high school coaches about character, work ethic, academics, PARENTS! However, I doubt they would care about a HS coach's opinion regarding anything on the field. Nor should they, it's their job to evaluate talent and ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lacrosse is gone no top college coach is contacting your HS coach they are going all to travel coach that is just the way it is and that is not going to change

Correct!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lacrosse is gone no top college coach is contacting your HS coach they are going all to travel coach that is just the way it is and that is not going to change

Correct!

Says the guy with zero experience in the matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lacrosse is gone no top college coach is contacting your HS coach they are going all to travel coach that is just the way it is and that is not going to change

Correct!

Says the guy with zero experience in the matter.

Three kids who all played D1. Stick that in your pipe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lacrosse is gone no top college coach is contacting your HS coach they are going all to travel coach that is just the way it is and that is not going to change

Correct!

Both your HS teams are terrible. That’s why.

And what do these 3 D1 players do now?

Why ask questions?
You know answers will be not true.
Let me guess. One runs a Fortune 500 company. One is the best neurosurgeon in NY city. One is the top investment banker on Wall Street. Not only were they the greatest lax players. They make boat loads of money. They have supermodel wives too. Lol

They work at Walmart,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And what do these 3 D1 players do now?

Two on Wall Street and one started her own company.

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Whats the point of the above banter? Club is ok to keepo a stick in your hand but it isnt the mecca of lax. And Neither is D-3 You guys need to take a drink from the Reality Faucet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Laughable. Ask a prospective employer if they rather a degree from a kid playing club at Stanford, Georgia, Virginia Tech or an obscure D3 school they couldn't even locate on the map. Better yet stay at Suffolk CC and see how that works out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Laughable. Ask a prospective employer if they rather a degree from a kid playing club at Stanford, Georgia, Virginia Tech or an obscure D3 school they couldn't even locate on the map. Better yet stay at Suffolk CC and see how that works out.

Schools like Texas have lacrosse only facilities and mini stadiums to watch the games. They have a paid coach and often fly. Arizona also plays like a big time school does, and players are recruited. Its the real deal. probably not top 25, but they could run with the bottom 50.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And what do these 3 D1 players do now?

Running lax clinics at center island sports in Ronkonkoma. 😂

My nephew plays club for Florida State. New locker room, new turf field, travel expenses picked up by the schools booster club. Doesn’t have any added pressure of maintaining any type of scholarship. 6 boys from last years program transferred to D1 schools to play. Not a bad option for some.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My nephew plays club for Florida State. New locker room, new turf field, travel expenses picked up by the schools booster club. Doesn’t have any added pressure of maintaining any type of scholarship. 6 boys from last years program transferred to D1 schools to play. Not a bad option for some.

It's a great option for kids who could get into these schools without the lacrosse. Clubs very rarely have any influence over admissions process, whereas the NCAA programs get kids through. As scholarship money has become negligible, club ball is an amazing way to experience college lacrosse. Especially if academics leads your kid to a good school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Laughable. Ask a prospective employer if they rather a degree from a kid playing club at Stanford, Georgia, Virginia Tech or an obscure D3 school they couldn't even locate on the map. Better yet stay at Suffolk CC and see how that works out.

Schools like Texas have lacrosse only facilities and mini stadiums to watch the games. They have a paid coach and often fly. Arizona also plays like a big time school does, and players are recruited. Its the real deal. probably not top 25, but they could run with the bottom 50.

No, they could not. They couldn't run with the bottom 10 D-3 programs. They are all over YouTube. Take a look.

Your son should pick the school that he thinks he can play at, not the schools that pick him for lacrosse. And in about 16 months this class will realize that D1 spots are very hard to come by. The combination of recruiting is growing in each region and 5th year seniors. I think 3 kids from LI were in Ty Xanders top 50 for the class of 2023. I think LI has the most kids playing, but the top players are spread out across the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son should pick the school that he thinks he can play at, not the schools that pick him for lacrosse. And in about 16 months this class will realize that D1 spots are very hard to come by. The combination of recruiting is growing in each region and 5th year seniors. I think 3 kids from LI were in Ty Xanders top 50 for the class of 2023. I think LI has the most kids playing, but the top players are spread out across the country.

All wrong. Should pick the school that will help him get a job after college, unless goal is to be a PLL player.

If your son has good grades, make sure he goes to a good school. Even if that means not playing anymore at all. Don't send your kid to some obscure D2 or D3 school just to play lacrosse. It's not worth it, get a good education and set yourself up for a good career. Don't put yourself behind the 8 ball for the rest of your life just so you can say you played a sport in college.

Isn’t 8 ball a game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son should pick the school that he thinks he can play at, not the schools that pick him for lacrosse. And in about 16 months this class will realize that D1 spots are very hard to come by. The combination of recruiting is growing in each region and 5th year seniors. I think 3 kids from LI were in Ty Xanders top 50 for the class of 2023. I think LI has the most kids playing, but the top players are spread out across the country.

All wrong. Should pick the school that will help him get a job after college, unless goal is to be a PLL player.

Obviously a newbie. I said pick the school, it’s implicit that it’s school that will provide the best opportunity for a future, plus one he can play at

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your son has good grades, make sure he goes to a good school. Even if that means not playing anymore at all. Don't send your kid to some obscure D2 or D3 school just to play lacrosse. It's not worth it, get a good education and set yourself up for a good career. Don't put yourself behind the 8 ball for the rest of your life just so you can say you played a sport in college.

100% agree. The name of the institution on that diploma is way more important than saying you played lacrosse at a school nobody ever heard of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your son has good grades, make sure he goes to a good school. Even if that means not playing anymore at all. Don't send your kid to some obscure D2 or D3 school just to play lacrosse. It's not worth it, get a good education and set yourself up for a good career. Don't put yourself behind the 8 ball for the rest of your life just so you can say you played a sport in college.

100% agree. The name of the institution on that diploma is way more important than saying you played lacrosse at a school nobody ever heard of.

You can do both. The problem is expectations about where somebody wants to play vs where they can are two different things. 3 of the top 50 ranked players are from LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Laughable. Ask a prospective employer if they rather a degree from a kid playing club at Stanford, Georgia, Virginia Tech or an obscure D3 school they couldn't even locate on the map. Better yet stay at Suffolk CC and see how that works out.

Schools like Texas have lacrosse only facilities and mini stadiums to watch the games. They have a paid coach and often fly. Arizona also plays like a big time school does, and players are recruited. Its the real deal. probably not top 25, but they could run with the bottom 50.

All of which the kids pay for. It’s not free.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Laughable. Ask a prospective employer if they rather a degree from a kid playing club at Stanford, Georgia, Virginia Tech or an obscure D3 school they couldn't even locate on the map. Better yet stay at Suffolk CC and see how that works out.

Hmmm, Tufts, Bowdoin, Denison etc. Specifically you remarked about quality of lacrosse. MCLA isn’t on par.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Good club teams are head and shoulders above low-level D3. heck, good high school programs would wipe the floor with low- and even some mid-level D3 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Good club teams are head and shoulders above low-level D3. heck, good high school programs would wipe the floor with low- and even some mid-level D3 teams.

Keep telling yourself what you need to hear. Tell all your buddies how your kids club team is actually D-1. Whatever makes you feel better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Good club teams are head and shoulders above low-level D3. heck, good high school programs would wipe the floor with low- and even some mid-level D3 teams.

Keep telling yourself what you need to hear. Tell all your buddies how your kids club team is actually D-1. Whatever makes you feel better.

My kids haven't even started playing youth lacrosse yet, much less college.

For bona fides, I grew up on Long Island and have been involved in lacrosse at all levels for most of my life. I wasn't the best player in the world, but I went to one of the historically strong high schools and ended up a four-year starter at a D1 school. I also spent a couple years as a volunteer assistant for a low-to-mid-level D3 program, one that was still good enough to make the NCAA tournament a few times in the relatively recent past.

My high school alma mater (or any "good" team -- Chaminade, St. Anthony's, the best LI publics in a given year, etc.) would beat said D3 team by 15+ goals. It wouldn't even be close. Have you ever watched a low-level D3 game? Have you ever watched a top MCLA team play?

Both of my kid's club teams, boy and girl, would have beaten all of D3 and likely scared some of D1. I am pretty sure my daughter's club team would win 2 of 5 vs her current D1 team. 80% of both of their club teams are playing mid to high level D1 and contributing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Real Difference between Lax Divisions: https://youtu.be/5XPHOhoTYtM

My son chose to play club, MCLA. The talent level is as good as any D1 program outside of the top 25. He's playing with great fiends, great social life and and getting a degree at a name recognized university. Don't sleep on club ball. If you love the game and want to play there's always a way. Don't sacrifice your college experience just to say you play lacrosse.

No that's not even remotely true. Club lacrosse isn't even on the level of low D-3. But if saying it makes you feel better keep at it.

Good club teams are head and shoulders above low-level D3. heck, good high school programs would wipe the floor with low- and even some mid-level D3 teams.

Keep telling yourself what you need to hear. Tell all your buddies how your kids club team is actually D-1. Whatever makes you feel better.

My kids haven't even started playing youth lacrosse yet, much less college.

For bona fides, I grew up on Long Island and have been involved in lacrosse at all levels for most of my life. I wasn't the best player in the world, but I went to one of the historically strong high schools and ended up a four-year starter at a D1 school. I also spent a couple years as a volunteer assistant for a low-to-mid-level D3 program, one that was still good enough to make the NCAA tournament a few times in the relatively recent past.

My high school alma mater (or any "good" team -- Chaminade, St. Anthony's, the best LI publics in a given year, etc.) would beat said D3 team by 15+ goals. It wouldn't even be close. Have you ever watched a low-level D3 game? Have you ever watched a top MCLA team play?

Yeah okay, this is as real as the Will Smith slap

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both of my kid's club teams, boy and girl, would have beaten all of D3 and likely scared some of D1. I am pretty sure my daughter's club team would win 2 of 5 vs her current D1 team. 80% of both of their club teams are playing mid to high level D1 and contributing.

Good for your kids, but that isn't the club lacrosse they're talking about..... There is "Club Ball" in college, which is to say non-NCAA intercollegiate competition. Many schools offer club sports in addition to NCAA athletics.

Club lacrosse is an excellent way for someone who enjoys playing to keep playing beyond HS..... especially if they haven't been heavily recruited or don't want the daily commitment of an NCAA sport. There have been instances where "club" athletes have taken a step and made the NCAA team at their college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both of my kid's club teams, boy and girl, would have beaten all of D3 and likely scared some of D1. I am pretty sure my daughter's club team would win 2 of 5 vs her current D1 team. 80% of both of their club teams are playing mid to high level D1 and contributing.

Good for your kids, but that isn't the club lacrosse they're talking about..... There is "Club Ball" in college, which is to say non-NCAA intercollegiate competition. Many schools offer club sports in addition to NCAA athletics.

Club lacrosse is an excellent way for someone who enjoys playing to keep playing beyond HS..... especially if they haven't been heavily recruited or don't want the daily commitment of an NCAA sport. There have been instances where "club" athletes have taken a step and made the NCAA team at their college.

This isn't exactly the club lacrosse we're talking about here either. A poster on the previous page of this thread stated that top MCLA teams (think Brigham Young) "couldn't run with the bottom 10 D-3 programs," which anyone familiar with D3 lacrosse would know is completely incorrect.

High-end MCLA teams are much more akin to your typical varsity programs than they are to the type of club teams to which you're referring.

Club, D1, D2, D3 all have huge disparities from the best to the worst. The worst D1 team will get beaten badly by the best D2, D3 and MCLA club team. The worst D3 and club teams would get trounced by the best HS programs. My point is don’t focus on the division as much as which school is the best academic, regional, and social fit first then try to find a program which you think you can get playing time for. That is my advice. As a former HS coach I’ve seen many of my players in college quit, get cut, or ride the bench for 4 years because they were too concerned about the division they wanted to play for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club, D1, D2, D3 all have huge disparities from the best to the worst. The worst D1 team will get beaten badly by the best D2, D3 and MCLA club team. The worst D3 and club teams would get trounced by the best HS programs. My point is don’t focus on the division as much as which school is the best academic, regional, and social fit first then try to find a program which you think you can get playing time for. That is my advice. As a former HS coach I’ve seen many of my players in college quit, get cut, or ride the bench for 4 years because they were too concerned about the division they wanted to play for.

Focus solely on the best academic school you would never get into without lacrosse. As soon as you get there care less about lacrosse and focus solely on internships which will get you the best paying job when you graduate. Lacrosse stats don't pay rent in NYC and your future boss and girlfriend won't care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club, D1, D2, D3 all have huge disparities from the best to the worst. The worst D1 team will get beaten badly by the best D2, D3 and MCLA club team. The worst D3 and club teams would get trounced by the best HS programs. My point is don’t focus on the division as much as which school is the best academic, regional, and social fit first then try to find a program which you think you can get playing time for. That is my advice. As a former HS coach I’ve seen many of my players in college quit, get cut, or ride the bench for 4 years because they were too concerned about the division they wanted to play for.

Focus solely on the best academic school you would never get into without lacrosse. As soon as you get there care less about lacrosse and focus solely on internships which will get you the best paying job when you graduate. Lacrosse stats don't pay rent in NYC and your future boss and girlfriend won't care.

I mostly agree with the above posts. Academics first, social environment second, lacrosse third.

D1 lax is 3 to 4 hours a day. It’s a job. Some rosters have 50 kids. All really good players. 30 of those players may not step on the field. For those 20 great. Good luck. For those 30, the question might be, is club better. Club might be 6,7 hours a week. Club is having fun. Club gives you more time to study. Obviously the main objective is to graduate and get a good job. Right? Club gives more free hours to enjoy other parts of college life. Going out, fraternities, parties etc. Club lax to me seems fantastic. My kids will make their own decisions. If this is what they choose I would be very happy.

WORST CHAIN EVER NOONE CARES. Is any club team practicing regularly now?

FYI - Michigan was a MCLA club team until 2012.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WORST CHAIN EVER NOONE CARES. Is any club team practicing regularly now?

If no one cares why do you ask? To answer your question, yes.
My sons team in top MCLA D-1 conference out west, practices usually 5 days per 2 hours a day unless they have game. 15 game schedule, fly or charter bus to away games. There is a conference tournament plus division tournament to crown overall champ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WORST CHAIN EVER NOONE CARES. Is any club team practicing regularly now?

If no one cares why do you ask? To answer your question, yes.
My sons team in top MCLA D-1 conference out west, practices usually 5 days per 2 hours a day unless they have game. 15 game schedule, fly or charter bus to away games. There is a conference tournament plus division tournament to crown overall champ.

I can tell you as spectator at the St As vs Chaminade freshman game, which was great. There was a lot a good players, but not real stand out potential 5 star talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WORST CHAIN EVER NOONE CARES. Is any club team practicing regularly now?

If no one cares why do you ask? To answer your question, yes.
My sons team in top MCLA D-1 conference out west, practices usually 5 days per 2 hours a day unless they have game. 15 game schedule, fly or charter bus to away games. There is a conference tournament plus division tournament to crown overall champ.

I can tell you as spectator at the St As vs Chaminade freshman game, which was great. There was a lot a good players, but not real stand out potential 5 star talent.

The Chaminade Frosh team has a couple of boys playing on Soph team. Friars are not as good as their parents are advertising.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WORST CHAIN EVER NOONE CARES. Is any club team practicing regularly now?

If no one cares why do you ask? To answer your question, yes.
My sons team in top MCLA D-1 conference out west, practices usually 5 days per 2 hours a day unless they have game. 15 game schedule, fly or charter bus to away games. There is a conference tournament plus division tournament to crown overall champ.

I can tell you as spectator at the St As vs Chaminade freshman game, which was great. There was a lot a good players, but not real stand out potential 5 star talent.

The Chaminade Frosh team has a couple of boys playing on Soph team. Friars are not as good as their parents are advertising.

Yeah because they tied JVA so they must not be good…lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WORST CHAIN EVER NOONE CARES. Is any club team practicing regularly now?

If no one cares why do you ask? To answer your question, yes.
My sons team in top MCLA D-1 conference out west, practices usually 5 days per 2 hours a day unless they have game. 15 game schedule, fly or charter bus to away games. There is a conference tournament plus division tournament to crown overall champ.

I can tell you as spectator at the St As vs Chaminade freshman game, which was great. There was a lot a good players, but not real stand out potential 5 star talent.

The Chaminade Frosh team has a couple of boys playing on Soph team. Friars are not as good as their parents are advertising.

Yeah because they tied JVA so they must not be good…lol

Mommy, it was a scrimmage, no one cares about the score of a scrimmage except you and our coaches who only played 15 kids when they played everyone. So stop it, your ignorance is embarrassing.

They aren’t as good as you think they are and it’s obvious that there is no #32 on that roster. Sorry Mommies and Daddies

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They aren’t as good as you think they are and it’s obvious that there is no #32 on that roster. Sorry Mommies and Daddies

32?

Where are the Mommy and the Daddy that were keeping score at the St.As JVB v Chaminade JVA scrimmage a few weeks ago? Those posts on here and on other Social Media sure didn’t age well.

Don’t embarrass yourselves like that ever again. There is no scorekeeping at a scrimmage! Don’t do it! It’s just dense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the Mommy and the Daddy that were keeping score at the St.As JVB v Chaminade JVA scrimmage a few weeks ago? Those posts on here and on other Social Media sure didn’t age well.

Don’t embarrass yourselves like that ever again. There is no scorekeeping at a scrimmage! Don’t do it! It’s just dense.

Ummm … SA was dominating in first half. Still a better team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the Mommy and the Daddy that were keeping score at the St.As JVB v Chaminade JVA scrimmage a few weeks ago? Those posts on here and on other Social Media sure didn’t age well.

Don’t embarrass yourselves like that ever again. There is no scorekeeping at a scrimmage! Don’t do it! It’s just dense.

Ummm … SA was dominating in first half. Still a better team!

Ummm ... Last I checked, the only score that matters is the final!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the Mommy and the Daddy that were keeping score at the St.As JVB v Chaminade JVA scrimmage a few weeks ago? Those posts on here and on other Social Media sure didn’t age well.

Don’t embarrass yourselves like that ever again. There is no scorekeeping at a scrimmage! Don’t do it! It’s just dense.

Ummm … SA was dominating in first half. Still a better team!

First you score a scrimmage and now you count the score at halftime! Hehehehe

Momma, you must be new to this!

How did the Varsity game go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Varsity game go?

Don’t care. The Varsity is the best in the country. Just making a point to the mommy scorekeeper and daddy ball coach of the freshman (2025) team. We all know who they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Varsity game go?

Don’t care. The Varsity is the best in the country. Just making a point to the mommy scorekeeper and daddy ball coach of the freshman (2025) team. We all know who they are.

Your point is not well taken and makes zero sense

Question about travel teams for this group, freshman year and after. Son currently plays for an above average travel program and starts on varsity for a decent HS team. I don't really see him continuing on to a play D1 lacrosse. He'll go to a D1 college just not to play lacrosse. Not interested in lesser known university just to play college lacrosse, this is not a knock for those that choose to do so. Most of his travel team has or will gravitate to LIE or 91 because they attend private hs (I assume their coaches demand this?). Is it worth it to continue shelling out 4k per year to practice maybe once a month and attend a handful of tournaments? His HS practices don't seem all that challenging and the skills he has acquired are due mostly to his travel coaches. Torn on what to do to maintain his skills and lacrosse IQ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question about travel teams for this group, freshman year and after. Son currently plays for an above average travel program and starts on varsity for a decent HS team. I don't really see him continuing on to a play D1 lacrosse. He'll go to a D1 college just not to play lacrosse. Not interested in lesser known university just to play college lacrosse, this is not a knock for those that choose to do so. Most of his travel team has or will gravitate to LIE or 91 because they attend private hs (I assume their coaches demand this?). Is it worth it to continue shelling out 4k per year to practice maybe once a month and attend a handful of tournaments? His HS practices don't seem all that challenging and the skills he has acquired are due mostly to his travel coaches. Torn on what to do to maintain his skills and lacrosse IQ.

Yes there are a lot lesser known schools. But there is a wonderful opportunity at so many schools that are D2 and D3 that will provide for a top notch education. And for club, every club is different, especially at this age. Our club will pick up again in Mid May and practice twice a week and play 5 tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question about travel teams for this group, freshman year and after. Son currently plays for an above average travel program and starts on varsity for a decent HS team. I don't really see him continuing on to a play D1 lacrosse. He'll go to a D1 college just not to play lacrosse. Not interested in lesser known university just to play college lacrosse, this is not a knock for those that choose to do so. Most of his travel team has or will gravitate to LIE or 91 because they attend private hs (I assume their coaches demand this?). Is it worth it to continue shelling out 4k per year to practice maybe once a month and attend a handful of tournaments? His HS practices don't seem all that challenging and the skills he has acquired are due mostly to his travel coaches. Torn on what to do to maintain his skills and lacrosse IQ.

Yes there are a lot lesser known schools. But there is a wonderful opportunity at so many schools that are D2 and D3 that will provide for a top notch education. And for club, every club is different, especially at this age. Our club will pick up again in Mid May and practice twice a week and play 5 tournaments.

Travel clubs at HS grades, especially after freshman are nothing more than a platform to promote their brand. Their is very little coaching, all showcase tournaments and once a kid commits they tale ALL the credit. Kids hang around and play club because that's the only option to stay sharp for HS. Some argue the recruiting and getting seen is all the club directors doing, I say its a combination. Mostly recruiting falls to the players and parents doing the legwork. If the price is right go for it and play, if it's 4k plus find another club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question about travel teams for this group, freshman year and after. Son currently plays for an above average travel program and starts on varsity for a decent HS team. I don't really see him continuing on to a play D1 lacrosse. He'll go to a D1 college just not to play lacrosse. Not interested in lesser known university just to play college lacrosse, this is not a knock for those that choose to do so. Most of his travel team has or will gravitate to LIE or 91 because they attend private hs (I assume their coaches demand this?). Is it worth it to continue shelling out 4k per year to practice maybe once a month and attend a handful of tournaments? His HS practices don't seem all that challenging and the skills he has acquired are due mostly to his travel coaches. Torn on what to do to maintain his skills and lacrosse IQ.

Yes there are a lot lesser known schools. But there is a wonderful opportunity at so many schools that are D2 and D3 that will provide for a top notch education. And for club, every club is different, especially at this age. Our club will pick up again in Mid May and practice twice a week and play 5 tournaments.

Travel clubs at HS grades, especially after freshman are nothing more than a platform to promote their brand. Their is very little coaching, all showcase tournaments and once a kid commits they tale ALL the credit. Kids hang around and play club because that's the only option to stay sharp for HS. Some argue the recruiting and getting seen is all the club directors doing, I say its a combination. Mostly recruiting falls to the players and parents doing the legwork. If the price is right go for it and play, if it's 4k plus find another club.

A large part of it, after the Top 50 are released every September, is all parent work.

Most HS coaches can’t even get the score and stats into Newsday in time. I would stop HS before I stopped travel

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most HS coaches can’t even get the score and stats into Newsday in time. I would stop HS before I stopped travel

You're not paying $5k for hs lacrosse but you are for travel

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most HS coaches can’t even get the score and stats into Newsday in time. I would stop HS before I stopped travel

You're not paying $5k for hs lacrosse but you are for travel

$5k a year for 7 years.....all for a piece of 12.4 scholarships worth about $12k. Sounds like a good investment. If you took that 35k, and invested wisely, the kid wouldn't have to pay a dime for college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most HS coaches can’t even get the score and stats into Newsday in time. I would stop HS before I stopped travel

Said by a Club Director!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most HS coaches can’t even get the score and stats into Newsday in time. I would stop HS before I stopped travel

You're not paying $5k for hs lacrosse but you are for travel

$5k a year for 7 years.....all for a piece of 12.4 scholarships worth about $12k. Sounds like a good investment. If you took that 35k, and invested wisely, the kid wouldn't have to pay a dime for college.

Im paying for character development. Small price to pay to learn all the lessons and make all the friends we have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most HS coaches can’t even get the score and stats into Newsday in time. I would stop HS before I stopped travel

You're not paying $5k for hs lacrosse but you are for travel

$5k a year for 7 years.....all for a piece of 12.4 scholarships worth about $12k. Sounds like a good investment. If you took that 35k, and invested wisely, the kid wouldn't have to pay a dime for college.

Im paying for character development. Small price to pay to learn all the lessons and make all the friends we have.

Try developing your kid's character yourself. It's cheaper and you know what you're getting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most HS coaches can’t even get the score and stats into Newsday in time. I would stop HS before I stopped travel

You're not paying $5k for hs lacrosse but you are for travel

$5k a year for 7 years.....all for a piece of 12.4 scholarships worth about $12k. Sounds like a good investment. If you took that 35k, and invested wisely, the kid wouldn't have to pay a dime for college.

Im paying for character development. Small price to pay to learn all the lessons and make all the friends we have.

You paid $5K per year to make friends?

Yes, some of these club directors and coaches are full of high moral character and development! The wisdom of life is overflowing. Lets see how many of these 'friends' you will still have after the drone of the Jersey Turnpike commute is over.

NLF summer kickoff is kinda thin. How do founding members not even show up? Wasn’t that the point of starting this thing. Get the best teams together at tourneys. Also, Middletown…

Asking for a friend, lol. Should we expect to see a drop in the typical 4 to 5K tuition for travel clubs next season? Practices down to 1x per week next year, fall will be optional or non-existent and the team concept goes out the window in favor of recruitment. My kid will most likely not be playing in college and if he does it's not the deciding factor in choosing a school. Plenty of kids still play travel to stay sharp for hs but is it worth the cost if they continue to gouge us? What other options are there? I've already seen the adverts for registrations and tryouts $100 per kid and most of them already play for those teams.

Very good question. I was wondering the same for my son. He is a goalie who had played club for 4 years but did not this year because he wanted to concentrate on club soccer and his school team. His school team and program is a mess right now, and debating if he should get back on a club team (if he wants to). I know his former club team has barley practiced this spring will all the boys playing school ball. Not sure if 4-5k for next yr is worth the limited practice and just playing tourneys. Plus there is only so much time in the day to play both club soccer and lax.

Now that soccer and school lax is over he has the itch to keep playing. If anyone needs a 2025 goalie to help fill in due to injury or conflict reply with a number and I will reach out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very good question. I was wondering the same for my son. He is a goalie who had played club for 4 years but did not this year because he wanted to concentrate on club soccer and his school team. His school team and program is a mess right now, and debating if he should get back on a club team (if he wants to). I know his former club team has barley practiced this spring will all the boys playing school ball. Not sure if 4-5k for next yr is worth the limited practice and just playing tourneys. Plus there is only so much time in the day to play both club soccer and lax.

Now that soccer and school lax is over he has the itch to keep playing. If anyone needs a 2025 goalie to help fill in due to injury or conflict reply with a number and I will reach out.

In the same boat. Really don't want to shell out the money for travel but what other options are there to stay sharp. He's a starter on varsity but probably not playing in college, academics far outweigh lacrosse. His current travel team parents all think their kid is D1 material and the directors are pushing the recruiting events hard to promote their brand. Paying that money for a handful of events seems nuts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very good question. I was wondering the same for my son. He is a goalie who had played club for 4 years but did not this year because he wanted to concentrate on club soccer and his school team. His school team and program is a mess right now, and debating if he should get back on a club team (if he wants to). I know his former club team has barley practiced this spring will all the boys playing school ball. Not sure if 4-5k for next yr is worth the limited practice and just playing tourneys. Plus there is only so much time in the day to play both club soccer and lax.

Now that soccer and school lax is over he has the itch to keep playing. If anyone needs a 2025 goalie to help fill in due to injury or conflict reply with a number and I will reach out.

In the same boat. Really don't want to shell out the money for travel but what other options are there to stay sharp. He's a starter on varsity but probably not playing in college, academics far outweigh lacrosse. His current travel team parents all think their kid is D1 material and the directors are pushing the recruiting events hard to promote their brand. Paying that money for a handful of events seems nuts.

Start your own team. Not trying to be a wise guy, if you can find about 16 players (3 on here already) you have a team enter local tournaments. Hire a coach, there are plenty of College kids or recent college grads that would love to make some money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very good question. I was wondering the same for my son. He is a goalie who had played club for 4 years but did not this year because he wanted to concentrate on club soccer and his school team. His school team and program is a mess right now, and debating if he should get back on a club team (if he wants to). I know his former club team has barley practiced this spring will all the boys playing school ball. Not sure if 4-5k for next yr is worth the limited practice and just playing tourneys. Plus there is only so much time in the day to play both club soccer and lax.

Now that soccer and school lax is over he has the itch to keep playing. If anyone needs a 2025 goalie to help fill in due to injury or conflict reply with a number and I will reach out.

In the same boat. Really don't want to shell out the money for travel but what other options are there to stay sharp. He's a starter on varsity but probably not playing in college, academics far outweigh lacrosse. His current travel team parents all think their kid is D1 material and the directors are pushing the recruiting events hard to promote their brand. Paying that money for a handful of events seems nuts.

Start your own team. Not trying to be a wise guy, if you can find about 16 players (3 on here already) you have a team enter local tournaments. Hire a coach, there are plenty of College kids or recent college grads that would love to make some money.

Yeah, lmk how that works out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very good question. I was wondering the same for my son. He is a goalie who had played club for 4 years but did not this year because he wanted to concentrate on club soccer and his school team. His school team and program is a mess right now, and debating if he should get back on a club team (if he wants to). I know his former club team has barley practiced this spring will all the boys playing school ball. Not sure if 4-5k for next yr is worth the limited practice and just playing tourneys. Plus there is only so much time in the day to play both club soccer and lax.

Now that soccer and school lax is over he has the itch to keep playing. If anyone needs a 2025 goalie to help fill in due to injury or conflict reply with a number and I will reach out.

In the same boat. Really don't want to shell out the money for travel but what other options are there to stay sharp. He's a starter on varsity but probably not playing in college, academics far outweigh lacrosse. His current travel team parents all think their kid is D1 material and the directors are pushing the recruiting events hard to promote their brand. Paying that money for a handful of events seems nuts.

Start your own team. Not trying to be a wise guy, if you can find about 16 players (3 on here already) you have a team enter local tournaments. Hire a coach, there are plenty of College kids or recent college grads that would love to make some money.

Yeah, lmk how that works out

Not recommended. Better getting a core group and approaching a club and make a deal.

Summer Faceoff this weekend. Excited to see how this group progressed after playing hs ball. Supposedly a B level tournament. Any guesses as to who stacks their roster and shows up with their A players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer Faceoff this weekend. Excited to see how this group progressed after playing hs ball. Supposedly a B level tournament. Any guesses as to who stacks their roster and shows up with their A players?

Same team that was advertising for goalie all summer? Forcegloo? Do they even have a B team or do they just play "down"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer Faceoff this weekend. Excited to see how this group progressed after playing hs ball. Supposedly a B level tournament. Any guesses as to who stacks their roster and shows up with their A players?

Same team that was advertising for goalie all summer? Forcegloo? Do they even have a B team or do they just play "down"

They all be better. But the Turtles are the best team. I love how they sell themselves during tryouts as an A team and we entering A tourneys, blah blah…and play B? It’s likely keep their top players and convince a few others to join.

Hornets take out the Turtles. Guess the good players left

And now Flurry beats everyone. They didn’t have a team after tryouts. So let’s bring A team players to play B I guess.

All those A players who allow their kids to play just to get “game film” taking away time from b team should be ashamed of themselves but mostly the program is in disarray

It’s JV now stunands. A B C levels. ? If you here complaining about competition and levels and playing time and directors and and and and and whatever the team did or didn’t have to snack on in between games it time to focus on the SAT and another extra-cirricular activity or two for little Timmy. Get mad at yourself for writing the check to these clubs

Farmingdale fields seen better days
and it’s only first week in June Mix in a lawnmower 91/DLT cheapfux

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All those A players who allow their kids to play just to get “game film” taking away time from b team should be ashamed of themselves but mostly the program is in disarray

They apparently don’t have two full teams is my understanding, but I could be wrong. So it appears they put out a hybrid team for B tourneys made up of the A team and the handful kids that are on Flurry to field a team.

Another team that appears to be fading a bit is FLG. They are down to a 2023, 2025 and 2030 team on the boys side I believe. These teams used to be elite level teams as recent as four years ago… and now I would be surprised if they last another year. 2023s are done and why you want to stick around as a 2025 as one of two teams.

Did you notice all the college
coaches at the games yesterday?

Great job Igloo, NorthFlurry. Your AA players won their first tournament ever playing in a B tournament. Your AA players never left the field in the final game (sorry, one was ejected) and you barely escaped with the win. I'm sure the real B players who were forced to sit there until sundown, all for a t shirt, were thrilled. Not sour grapes, final game was well played and close, but we are a legitimate B team. The fact is Igloo will play in B tournaments under the Flurry name, but it's all the same kids. Trust me, some of them are on our varsity, so there really is no disputing this. I wonder if the ones who had AA players take their B spots get to play in A tournaments and switch roles? Given the chatter on the parents sidelines I 'm sure Igloo will be answering a few phone calls today. Either way, congratulations Igloo on your first win. Parents must be proud, especially the one questioning why a kid gets tossed for cursing out a ref. Stay classy Igloo NorthFlurry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great job Igloo, NorthFlurry. Your AA players won their first tournament ever playing in a B tournament. Your AA players never left the field in the final game (sorry, one was ejected) and you barely escaped with the win. I'm sure the real B players who were forced to sit there until sundown, all for a t shirt, were thrilled. Not sour grapes, final game was well played and close, but we are a legitimate B team. The fact is Igloo will play in B tournaments under the Flurry name, but it's all the same kids. Trust me, some of them are on our varsity, so there really is no disputing this. I wonder if the ones who had AA players take their B spots get to play in A tournaments and switch roles? Given the chatter on the parents sidelines I 'm sure Igloo will be answering a few phone calls today. Either way, congratulations Igloo on your first win. Parents must be proud, especially the one questioning why a kid gets tossed for cursing out a ref. Stay classy Igloo NorthFlurry.

Woo Hoo, way to go Igloo, beating up on B teams, great job. Can't wait to see what happens at the A tournaments, or are you claiming you're a B team only.

That a lot of analysis for a meaningless B tournament. You son had to get cut from Igloo at some point in his playing days. From what I saw Saturday, Not one player in the JV division will play D1 lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great job Igloo, NorthFlurry. Your AA players won their first tournament ever playing in a B tournament. Your AA players never left the field in the final game (sorry, one was ejected) and you barely escaped with the win. I'm sure the real B players who were forced to sit there until sundown, all for a t shirt, were thrilled. Not sour grapes, final game was well played and close, but we are a legitimate B team. The fact is Igloo will play in B tournaments under the Flurry name, but it's all the same kids. Trust me, some of them are on our varsity, so there really is no disputing this. I wonder if the ones who had AA players take

their B spots get to play in A tournaments and switch roles? Given the chatter on the parents sidelines I 'm sure Igloo will be answering a few phone calls today. Either way, congratulations Igloo on your first win. Parents must be proud, especially the one questioning why a kid gets tossed for cursing out a ref. Stay classy Igloo NorthFlurry.

Woo Hoo, way to go Igloo, beating up on B teams, great job. Can't wait to see what happens at the A tournaments, or are you claiming you're a B team only.

Who cares who they bring. Our kids are in High School they will have to face some of the best players on the island when they are on Varsity. Are you going to complain that Mount Sinai or Manhasset or Garden city brought their best players. At this point you are paying for club lacrosse for 1 or 2 reasons.
1) to get your kid recruited
2) to stay sharp for HS ball
Either way playing against better players will help playing against inferior competition will not help your kid. They need to be challenged. And from what I’m reading they played a good game against better competition. So be happy your kid most likely improved which is the reason you are on the field.

I'm sorry, but the hornets are not a B team. i think they should play in A brackets, they're very good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great job Igloo, NorthFlurry. Your AA players won their first tournament ever playing in a B tournament. Your AA players never left the field in the final game (sorry, one was ejected) and you barely escaped with the win. I'm sure the real B players who were forced to sit there until sundown, all for a t shirt, were thrilled. Not sour grapes, final game was well played and close, but we are a legitimate B team. The fact is Igloo will play in B tournaments under the Flurry name, but it's all the same kids. Trust me, some of them are on our varsity, so there really is no disputing this. I wonder if the ones who had AA players take

their B spots get to play in A tournaments and switch roles? Given the chatter on the parents sidelines I 'm sure Igloo will be answering a few phone calls today. Either way, congratulations Igloo on your first win. Parents must be proud, especially the one questioning why a kid gets tossed for cursing out a ref. Stay classy Igloo NorthFlurry.

Woo Hoo, way to go Igloo, beating up on B teams, great job. Can't wait to see what happens at the A tournaments, or are you claiming you're a B team only.

Who cares who they bring. Our kids are in High School they will have to face some of the best players on the island when they are on Varsity. Are you going to complain that Mount Sinai or Manhasset or Garden city brought their best players. At this point you are paying for club lacrosse for 1 or 2 reasons.
1) to get your kid recruited
2) to stay sharp for HS ball
Either way playing against better players will help playing against inferior competition will not help your kid. They need to be challenged. And from what I’m reading they played a good game against better competition. So be happy your kid most likely improved which is the reason you are on the field.

So how does that help the A players on igloo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great job Igloo, NorthFlurry. Your AA players won their first tournament ever playing in a B tournament. Your AA players never left the field in the final game (sorry, one was ejected) and you barely escaped with the win. I'm sure the real B players who were forced to sit there until sundown, all for a t shirt, were thrilled. Not sour grapes, final game was well played and close, but we are a legitimate B team. The fact is Igloo will play in B tournaments under the Flurry name, but it's all the same kids. Trust me, some of them are on our varsity, so there really is no disputing this. I wonder if the ones who had AA players take

their B spots get to play in A tournaments and switch roles? Given the chatter on the parents sidelines I 'm sure Igloo will be answering a few phone calls today. Either way, congratulations Igloo on your first win. Parents must be proud, especially the one questioning why a kid gets tossed for cursing out a ref. Stay classy Igloo NorthFlurry.

Woo Hoo, way to go Igloo, beating up on B teams, great job. Can't wait to see what happens at the A tournaments, or are you claiming you're a B team only.

Who cares who they bring. Our kids are in High School they will have to face some of the best players on the island when they are on Varsity. Are you going to complain that Mount Sinai or Manhasset or Garden city brought their best players. At this point you are paying for club lacrosse for 1 or 2 reasons.
1) to get your kid recruited
2) to stay sharp for HS ball
Either way playing against better players will help playing against inferior competition will not help your kid. They need to be challenged. And from what I’m reading they played a good game against better competition. So be happy your kid most likely improved which is the reason you are on the field.

Thanks for trying to justify why your team has to bring their AA players in a known B level tournament. If you can't field a B team than you should have folded, not double dipped. Even your parents acknowledge that. Do your B kids play in A tournaments. Events are still by grad year 2025 or JV, not open divisions. If your varsity starter is so good let them play with the 2024/23's. Directors and clubs enter tournaments based on perceived ability so the games aren't lopsided and remain competitive. Players develop by playing, not by watching. I can say in good conscience our entire roster played equally in every game this weekend. Based on what I saw, Igloo did not do the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great job Igloo, NorthFlurry. Your AA players won their first tournament ever playing in a B tournament. Your AA players never left the field in the final game (sorry, one was ejected) and you barely escaped with the win. I'm sure the real B players who were forced to sit there until sundown, all for a t shirt, were thrilled. Not sour grapes, final game was well played and close, but we are a legitimate B team. The fact is Igloo will play in B tournaments under the Flurry name, but it's all the same kids. Trust me, some of them are on our varsity, so there really is no disputing this. I wonder

if the ones who had AA players take

their B spots get to play in A tournaments and switch roles? Given the chatter on the parents sidelines I 'm sure Igloo will be answering a few phone calls today. Either way, congratulations Igloo on your first win. Parents must be proud, especially the one questioning why a kid gets tossed for cursing out a ref. Stay classy Igloo NorthFlurry.

Woo Hoo, way to go Igloo, beating up on B teams, great job. Can't wait to see what happens at the A tournaments, or are you claiming you're a B team only.

Who cares who they bring. Our kids are in High School they will have to face some of the best players on the island when they are on Varsity. Are you going to complain that Mount Sinai or Manhasset or Garden city brought their best players. At this point you are paying for club lacrosse for 1 or 2 reasons.
1) to get your kid recruited
2) to stay sharp for HS ball
Either way playing against better players will help playing against inferior competition will not help your kid. They need to be challenged. And from what I’m reading they played a good game against better competition. So be happy your kid most likely improved which is the reason you are on the field.

Thanks for trying to justify why your team has to bring their AA players in a known B level tournament. If you can't field a B team than you should have folded, not double dipped. Even your parents acknowledge that. Do your B kids play in A tournaments. Events are still by grad year 2025 or JV, not open divisions. If your varsity starter is so good let them play with the 2024/23's. Directors and clubs enter tournaments based on perceived ability so the games aren't lopsided and remain competitive. Players develop by playing, not by watching. I can say in good conscience our entire roster played equally in every game this weekend. Based on what I saw, Igloo did not do the same.

Just looked at Tourney Machine. If there info is correct, igloo won by 2 goals. Sounds like a close game. If igloo brought their A players and their A players played most of or the entire game and only won by 2 goals. Your team played the entire bench I can conclude that either Igloo is not an A team or the hornets are an A team sounds like someone has sour grape because their sons team lost. It seems they played exactly where they should of played. Close championship game. That’s what you want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great job Igloo, NorthFlurry. Your AA players won their first tournament ever playing in a B tournament. Your AA players never left the field in the final game (sorry, one was ejected) and you barely escaped with the win. I'm sure the real B players who were forced to sit there until sundown, all for a t shirt, were thrilled. Not sour grapes, final game was well played and close, but we are a legitimate B team. The fact is Igloo will play in B tournaments under the Flurry name, but it's all the same kids. Trust me, some of them are on our varsity, so there really is no disputing this. I wonder

if the ones who had AA players take

their B spots get to play in A tournaments and switch roles? Given the chatter on the parents sidelines I 'm sure Igloo will be answering a few phone calls today. Either way, congratulations Igloo on your first win. Parents must be proud, especially the one questioning why a kid gets tossed for cursing out a ref. Stay classy Igloo NorthFlurry.

Woo Hoo, way to go Igloo, beating up on B teams, great job. Can't wait to see what happens at the A tournaments, or are you claiming you're a B team only.

Who cares who they bring. Our kids are in High School they will have to face some of the best players on the island when they are on Varsity. Are you going to complain that Mount Sinai or Manhasset or Garden city brought their best players. At this point you are paying for club lacrosse for 1 or 2 reasons.
1) to get your kid recruited
2) to stay sharp for HS ball
Either way playing against better players will help playing against inferior competition will not help your kid. They need to be challenged. And from what I’m reading they played a good game against better competition. So be happy your kid most likely improved which is the reason you are on the field.

Thanks for trying to justify why your team has to bring their AA players in a known B level tournament. If you can't field a B team than you should have folded, not double dipped. Even your parents acknowledge that. Do your B kids play in A tournaments. Events are still by grad year 2025 or JV, not open divisions. If your varsity starter is so good let them play with the 2024/23's. Directors and clubs enter tournaments based on perceived ability so the games aren't lopsided and remain competitive. Players develop by playing, not by watching. I can say in good conscience our entire roster played equally in every game this weekend. Based on what I saw, Igloo did not do the same.

Just looked at Tourney Machine. If there info is correct, igloo won by 2 goals. Sounds like a close game. If igloo brought their A players and their A players played most of or the entire game and only won by 2 goals. Your team played the entire bench I can conclude that either Igloo is not an A team or the hornets are an A team sounds like someone has sour grape because their sons team lost. It seems they played exactly where they should of played. Close championship game. That’s what you want.

You are correct, a B team lost to an A team, move on.

B tournament is a understatement. My lacrosse tourneys are dreadful except laxfest.

The real AA teams were at NLF this weekend, guess Igloo didn't get the invite. Better to stay at home and win a B tournament I guess.

What about Rebels? Are they still a B team moonlighting as an A team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B tournament is a understatement. My lacrosse tourneys are dreadful except laxfest.

Fields were terrible, schedule was a disaster. Crazy dangerous too, no nets around fields. Later games must have ended after 8:00, thankfully we played 3 and done.

NLF losing its luster too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NLF losing its luster too.

The end of summer NLF is pretty legit still. Generally I agree. Too many events. In two weeks most of the top teams are split between 3 different events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B tournament is a understatement. My lacrosse tourneys are dreadful except laxfest.

Fields were terrible, schedule was a disaster. Crazy dangerous too, no nets around fields. Later games must have ended after 8:00, thankfully we played 3 and done.

These tourney dates are set a year out sometimes. I wish they would secure decent fields.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Rebels? Are they still a B team moonlighting as an A team?

No they have a B team as well. The A team did lose a few players I heard. But at least the A team will play in A brackets, not like the Clubs like True Blue and The Turtles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Rebels? Are they still a B team moonlighting as an A team?

No they have a B team as well. The A team did lose a few players I heard. But at least the A team will play in A brackets, not like the Clubs like True Blue and The Turtles.

Top team lost 1 kid which was addition by subtraction. Interested to see how they do this summer.

2nd team is a very good B team.

Turtles keep saying they're an A team but never play anyone good. Then they go out and get embarrassed in a B bracket. They have 2 good players, one mid and one attack. Take them away and it's a subpar PAL team. If you want to be an A team, go play Annapolis Hawks, 91 MD and DC Express and see how that works out. The whole team would quit before you hit the NJ Turnpike.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles keep saying they're an A team but never play anyone good. Then they go out and get embarrassed in a B bracket. They have 2 good players, one mid and one attack. Take them away and it's a subpar PAL team. If you want to be an A team, go play Annapolis Hawks, 91 MD and DC Express and see how that works out. The whole team would quit before you hit the NJ Turnpike.

The classic bait and switch. They advertise they are moving to A bracket tournaments and so far... They have played all B brackets. This includes Fall 2021 and so far Spring 2022, its the same thing. Silly.

As a former member of Igloo, I would like to shed some light on their current situation. Sour grapes, maybe, do what you want with the information. There used to be two separate and distinct teams Northface A and Flurry B. During recent tryouts there was an ugly incident between a parent and a director. This led to Flurry members leaving for other clubs. Not having enough to field two separate teams, they now play together, sort of. They claim their Northface program as an elite AA program but those are the same players you'll see at B level events. We played them last week so this is a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a former member of Igloo, I would like to shed some light on their current situation. Sour grapes, maybe, do what you want with the information. There used to be two separate and distinct teams Northface A and Flurry B. During recent tryouts there was an ugly incident between a parent and a director. This led to Flurry members leaving for other clubs. Not having enough to field two separate teams, they now play together, sort of. They claim their Northface program as an elite AA program but those are the same players you'll see at B level events. We played them last week so this is a fact.

Been there done that. If you stayed you deserve the treatment you're getting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a former member of Igloo, I would like to shed some light on their current situation. Sour grapes, maybe, do what you want with the information. There used to be two separate and distinct teams Northface A and Flurry B. During recent tryouts there was an ugly incident between a parent and a director. This led to Flurry members leaving for other clubs. Not having enough to field two separate teams, they now play together, sort of. They claim their Northface program as an elite AA program but those are the same players you'll see at B level events. We played them last week so this is a fact.

Well said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a former member of Igloo, I would like to shed some light on their current situation. Sour grapes, maybe, do what you want with the information. There used to be two separate and distinct teams Northface A and Flurry B. During recent tryouts there was an ugly incident between a parent and a director. This led to Flurry members leaving for other clubs. Not having enough to field two separate teams, they now play together, sort of. They claim their Northface program as an elite AA program but those are the same players you'll see at B level events. We played them last week so this is a fact.

Well said

Do Igloo B players get to stand around and watch at AA tournaments? Pretty sure that is what happened last weekend at a B tournament, at least in the final they did, since I didn't see other games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a former member of Igloo, I would like to shed some light on their current situation. Sour grapes, maybe, do what you want with the information. There used to be two separate and distinct teams Northface A and Flurry B. During recent tryouts there was an ugly incident between a parent and a director. This led to Flurry members leaving for other clubs. Not having enough to field two separate teams, they now play together, sort of. They claim their Northface program as an elite AA program but those are the same players you'll see at B level events. We played them last week so this is a fact.

Well said

Who stay around for that. There a few very solid 2nd tier teams looking for one or two players. Reach out to them before summer starts. Don’t wait until tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hornets take out the Turtles. Guess the good players left

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sorry, but the hornets are not a B team. i think they should play in A brackets, they're very good

Do the Hornets still have 33 kids on the sidelines. And they are good, but not A. They beat the turtles, but the Turtles had two or three players who apparently got hurt or where missing or both. And it was clear without those players they are a different team. Kids will realize that with recruiting starting for this class they are wasting their time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a former member of Igloo, I would like to shed some light on their current situation. Sour grapes, maybe, do what you want with the information. There used to be two separate and distinct teams Northface A and Flurry B. During recent tryouts there was an ugly incident between a parent and a director. This led to Flurry members leaving for other clubs. Not having enough to field two separate teams, they now play together, sort of. They claim their Northface program as an elite AA program but those are the same players you'll see at B level events. We played them last week so this is a fact.

Well said

Do Igloo B players get to stand around and watch at AA tournaments? Pretty sure that is what happened last weekend at a B tournament, at least in the final they did, since I didn't see other games.

Same thing is playing out at legrush I heard. Low numbers and They appear to have strategically scheduled tourneys to allow for fillers. These combo situations are never a success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a former member of Igloo, I would like to shed some light on their current situation. Sour grapes, maybe, do what you want with the information. There used to be two separate and distinct teams Northface A and Flurry B. During recent tryouts there was an ugly incident between a parent and a director. This led to Flurry members leaving for other clubs. Not having enough to field two separate teams, they now play together, sort of. They claim their Northface program as an elite AA program but those are the same players you'll see at B level events. We played them last week so this is a fact.

Well said

Do Igloo B players get to stand around and watch at AA tournaments? Pretty sure that is what happened last weekend at a B tournament, at least in the final they did, since I didn't see other games.

Same thing is playing out at legrush I heard. Low numbers and They appear to have strategically scheduled tourneys to allow for fillers. These combo situations are never a success.

For better or worse LIE set the business model now everyone is chasing dollars. They all promise an anti-travel club, player development, community involvement. Nonsense, it's a business and run for profit. Clubs now only cater to the few real recruitable players. Everyone other player is footing the bill. Almost any good hs player can find a college program. What are you willing to give up academically and socially just to play lacrosse in college. B teams used to be an affordable option loaded with decent hs players who didn't necessarily care about college lacrosse. Somehow all that changed an every club sells the promise of recruitment for big money. It's not so easy to find an affordable option to keep kids playing once or twice a week in the offseason so they stay active for hs.

Nailed it. Basically no options for the athlete that wants to play lax but is not interested in playing college lax, or lax is his second sport. I feel for these boys, my son being one of them.

How would players be wasting their time? Does a team get looks at recruitment or individual players?

They did the same thing in the Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How would players be wasting their time? Does a team get looks at recruitment or individual players?

The waste is playing on teams that say one thing and do another or they put a band aide on a situation to try to fix. And then there are other teams who swore they were A teams and play in B. At the end of the day no small club will help with the next level, and the big ones will. It’s up to the parents to be realistic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hornets take out the Turtles. Guess the good players left

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sorry, but the hornets are not a B team. i think they should play in A brackets, they're very good

Do the Hornets still have 33 kids on the sidelines. And they are good, but not A. They beat the turtles, but the Turtles had two or three players who apparently got hurt or where missing or both. And it was clear without those players they are a different team. Kids will realize that with recruiting starting for this class they are wasting their time.

They have 33 and the guy keeps adding players. There's no way you can provide any meaningful time to that many players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hornets take out the Turtles. Guess the good players left

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sorry, but the hornets are not a B team. i think they should play in A brackets, they're very good

Do the Hornets still have 33 kids on the sidelines. And they are good, but not A. They beat the turtles, but the Turtles had two or three players who apparently got hurt or where missing or both. And it was clear without those players they are a different team. Kids will realize that with recruiting starting for this class they are wasting their time.

They have 33 and the guy keeps adding players. There's no way you can provide any meaningful time to that many players.

and they get equal playing time or at least try to get them all playing time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hornets take out the Turtles. Guess the good players left

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sorry, but the hornets are not a B team. i think they should play in A brackets, they're very good

Do the Hornets still have 33 kids on the sidelines. And they are good, but not A. They beat the turtles, but the Turtles had two or three players who apparently got hurt or where missing or both. And it was clear without those players they are a different team. Kids will realize that with recruiting starting for this class they are wasting their time.

They have 33 and the guy keeps adding players. There's no way you can provide any meaningful time to that many players.

and they get equal playing time or at least try to get them all playing time

It's impossible to get that many kids equal playing time. There are kids that will hardly touch the field for them. It's a waste of money for those parents, there are plenty of other teams where you child will get decent playing time

They had 3 teams. As 91 keeps falling apart, they could not field 3 teams. hornets are B at best, what top teams have they beat, nobody. I have to say I enjoy watching 91 fall apart. Few big boobs running it. They are dinosaurs

They never had 3 teams at this age group. It was blast and ice. Now it’s shock and hornets

They have 33 and the guy keeps adding players. There's no way you can provide any meaningful time to that many players.[/quote]

and they get equal playing time or at least try to get them all playing time[/quote]

They certainly do not get equal playing time, there are kids on that team that never come off the field. There were a bunch that didn’t play at all yesterday

Is legrush white a combo of red players and white?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles keep saying they're an A team but never play anyone good. Then they go out and get embarrassed in a B bracket. They have 2 good players, one mid and one attack. Take them away and it's a subpar PAL team. If you want to be an A team, go play Annapolis Hawks, 91 MD and DC Express and see how that works out. The whole team would quit before you hit the NJ Turnpike.

The classic bait and switch. They advertise they are moving to A bracket tournaments and so far... They have played all B brackets. This includes Fall 2021 and so far Spring 2022, its the same thing. Silly.

Another tournament weekend and the Turtles are yet again in a B bracket. Those of you who were told you were going to be an A team pissed off yet???

Not only were the Turtles in the B bracket but they got embarrassed once again. The players on that team have no business playing in the A brackets anyway.

Just as bad as entering a B tournament and bringing your A team with 2024 goalie. We play in B tournaments because that is our skill level and we have a legit A team with no crossover. Seems everyone except the big 2 has been playing down and not truthful about it.

I've seen Express bring the A fogo down to a B tournament for "extra reps". It also helps the B team win when you have possession of the ball the whole game. At the end of the day it doesn't matter who wins just focus on your own kid and his development. The only issue I have is when "guest players" take time away from kids who are actually on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as bad as entering a B tournament and bringing your A team with 2024 goalie. We play in B tournaments because that is our skill level and we have a legit A team with no crossover. Seems everyone except the big 2 has been playing down and not truthful about it.

Played Igloo B team two weekends in a row. Talking to kids afterwards seems Igloo doesn't even have a B team. They play their A team because they can't win anywhere else. They couldn't get past S2S or CSH intramural team so maybe they are the B team lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as bad as entering a B tournament and bringing your A team with 2024 goalie. We play in B tournaments because that is our skill level and we have a legit A team with no crossover. Seems everyone except the big 2 has been playing down and not truthful about it.

Played Igloo B team two weekends in a row. Talking to kids afterwards seems Igloo doesn't even have a B team. They play their A team because they can't win anywhere else. They couldn't get past S2S or CSH intramural team so maybe they are the B team lol

Assume you mean Cold Spring / True Blue. Isn't that what the Regulators really are?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've seen Express bring the A fogo down to a B tournament for "extra reps". It also helps the B team win when you have possession of the ball the whole game. At the end of the day it doesn't matter who wins just focus on your own kid and his development. The only issue I have is when "guest players" take time away from kids who are actually on the team.

Completely false.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles keep saying they're an A team but never play anyone good. Then they go out and get embarrassed in a B bracket. They have 2 good players, one mid and one attack. Take them away and it's a subpar PAL team. If you want to be an A team, go play Annapolis Hawks, 91 MD and DC Express and see how that works out. The whole team would quit before you hit the NJ Turnpike.

The classic bait and switch. They advertise they are moving to A bracket tournaments and so far... They have played all B brackets. This includes Fall 2021 and so far Spring 2022, its the same thing. Silly.

Another tournament weekend and the Turtles are yet again in a B bracket. Those of you who were told you were going to be an A team pissed off yet???

No, because all they added was kids from B teams? So they that can’t be that clueless. Wait they can…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as bad as entering a B tournament and bringing your A team with 2024 goalie. We play in B tournaments because that is our skill level and we have a legit A team with no crossover. Seems everyone except the big 2 has been playing down and not truthful about it.

Played Igloo B team two weekends in a row. Talking to kids afterwards seems Igloo doesn't even have a B team. They play their A team because they can't win anywhere else. They couldn't get past S2S or CSH intramural team so maybe they are the B team lol

Assume you mean Cold Spring / True Blue. Isn't that what the Regulators really are?

Same as Legacy White, the schedule actually alternates with the Res team. I don’t mind it, overall, but go challenge yourself vs better teams. Why don’t Flurry and Legrush White true players just form a team. Lol. Flegrush.

Another weekend, another B tournament for the Turtles. The parents over there must be the same people who voted for Brandon and think he's doing a great job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another weekend, another B tournament for the Turtles. The parents over there must be the same people who voted for Brandon and think he's doing a great job.

Why do YOU care what other parents are doing? What's the problem with your situation that you even bother with this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another weekend, another B tournament for the Turtles. The parents over there must be the same people who voted for Brandon and think he's doing a great job.

Why do YOU care what other parents are doing? What's the problem with your situation that you even bother with this?

Because they said they were playing in A tournaments only when they convinced kids to come and those who stayed.

I think the issue is that over the last few years the Turtles have cut players saying they wanted to compete with the A teams. Then they stay in the B brackets and continue to lose there. They've rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I'd like to get a contact list of these parents because I have a bridge I'm selling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the issue is that over the last few years the Turtles have cut players saying they wanted to compete with the A teams. Then they stay in the B brackets and continue to lose there. They've rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I'd like to get a contact list of these parents because I have a bridge I'm selling.

It’s more of a zero sum gain. They have 2 maybe 3 high level players and replace the players around them with B players that are bette than the ones cut.

Teams are listed for the FLG Big X. Attendance is remarkably light. That was once a premiere event. I think FLG as a club is down to 3 boys teams and one is a 2023, so essentially down to two.

Blatant has something same weekend and then Naptown starts the next day. Busy time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant has something same weekend and then Naptown starts the next day. Busy time.

I think it has to do with FLG’s boys program appears to have fallen off. Typically they drew from the same areas that now S2S, Igloo and Rebels do. Rebels seem to be the only club growing. S2S and Igloo seem to be more A team focused.

How much is flg? No college coaches showing up for this line up. Waste of time and money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much is flg? No college coaches showing up for this line up. Waste of time and money.

Unfortunately a once elite LI club has faded. They seem more focused on the girls program and LILj, which is fine. Plenty of clubs have decent teams at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not only were the Turtles in the B bracket but they got embarrassed once again. The players on that team have no business playing in the A brackets anyway.

They played A competition this weekend as promised at tryouts…2026 Storm beat them kinda easy.

Saw the press release from 91 that Josh was heading back to the club. What does that mean for United? I think the 25s are their only club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant has something same weekend and then Naptown starts the next day. Busy time.

I think it has to do with FLG’s boys program appears to have fallen off. Typically they drew from the same areas that now S2S, Igloo and Rebels do. Rebels seem to be the only club growing. S2S and Igloo seem to be more A team focused.

There are only two real A teams at 2025. LIE and 91 have proven themselves to be the top teams for quite some time. Consistent winning and superior coaching is what draws players to these programs, at least at the elite level. The other programs may have a commit here and there but 91 and EXP lead the way. Sorry but everyone else just fighting for scraps.

Maybe you should look at teams 2023 commit list before you make statements like that. Don’t you think that makes sense?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe you should look at teams 2023 commit list before you make statements like that. Don’t you think that makes sense?

Have to agree with previous poster. Not to take anything away from these kids, but take a look at the commitment list. Now compare that list to 91 and EXP commitments, sorry not apples to apples. Half the list are schools you've never heard of, and yes it matters. Anyone can find a school to play college lacrosse at, but what is that degree really getting you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not only were the Turtles in the B bracket but they got embarrassed once again. The players on that team have no business playing in the A brackets anyway.

They played A competition this weekend as promised at tryouts…2026 Storm beat them kinda easy.

Best post of the summer so far

You people are delusional good luck with who is number 1, no one cares it is about getting your kid recruited

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are delusional good luck with who is number 1, no one cares it is about getting your kid recruited

And that sums up everything that is wrong with club lacrosse. if you spent half as much time on tutoring or ACT prep as you do dragging your kid around thinking you're going to college for lacrosse maybe they would actually enjoy it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not only were the Turtles in the B bracket but they got embarrassed once again. The players on that team have no business playing in the A brackets anyway.

They played A competition this weekend as promised at tryouts…2026 Storm beat them kinda easy.

Best post of the summer so far

They should win the FLG Big X this weekend. Best team in there is Team Huntington and they are in the other bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not only were the Turtles in the B bracket but they got embarrassed once again. The players on that team have no business playing in the A brackets anyway.

They played A competition this weekend as promised at tryouts…2026 Storm beat them kinda easy.

Best post of the summer so far

They should win the FLG Big X this weekend. Best team in there is Team Huntington and they are in the other bracket.

They probably lose to Roar too

The best 2025s in the nation are all playing this weekend. Seems like half at Crabfest and the other other half at the Sweetlax Int.

Let’s be honest it’s Team 91 Fire and everyone else at this point until someone beats them.

How did this weekend go in the lax world? Alot of tournaments...

With 2023s about to age out, FLG and Turtles are down to a handful of boys teams. FLG probably sticks around as a girls program, Turtles probably fold again.

So a few weeks into Summer season what’s the feedback on these hybrids? Meaning teams that use flex players from A to play with the 2nd team. Igloo’s version of this already wasn’t successful. I have heard they cxld their 2nd team for next season. I think Legacy White and True Blue B have this same flex model, is it working? Don’t know how chemistry would develop in a model like this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a few weeks into Summer season what’s the feedback on these hybrids? Meaning teams that use flex players from A to play with the 2nd team. Igloo’s version of this already wasn’t successful. I have heard they cxld their 2nd team for next season. I think Legacy White and True Blue B have this same flex model, is it working? Don’t know how chemistry would develop in a model like this

So called flex teams are an absolute scam. Igloo has mastered the art of playing their A players at B tournaments. Do those B players play in A tournaments? Broken promises of playing time and development, mid season what options are there but to finish the year. Do you think they'll refund your tuition or let you play next year for free? We have some very close friends that stayed. Shame on you Igloo. Those B players stand around at their own tournaments to watch A players. Worse are the parents who allow it to happen. Owner didn't want to lose the additional money, so they intentionally misled people. The ones that stayed got hosed. Someone please tell me I'm wrong.

Who cares? A players B players, whatever. My sons team is a "B" team and Id still take them to beat a lot of the clubs moonlighting as "A" teams. Its actually beautiful when teams bring other players and still watch our kids send them home week after week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? A players B players, whatever. My sons team is a "B" team and Id still take them to beat a lot of the clubs moonlighting as "A" teams. Its actually beautiful when teams bring other players and still watch our kids send them home week after week.

What team is your son on?

Does it matter? Thats not the point. If you have a good group of kids with the proper coaching good things happen. Call it A, B C whatever... The problem is too many people are caught up with status and BBQ chatter than their kids being in a good lax environment.

Lacrosse is so far behind in policing this issue it's ridiculous. Other sports like ice hockey and soccer have a very good system. It's birth year plain and simple, for this 2025 age group it would be 2007 birth year only. They don't care if you were born on December 31, 2006. You have to submit birth certificates, the kids are issued photo ID cards each year and you have to submit an official roster prior to the season. The referee lines everyone up before each game and checks the cards, protective equipment and the roster. If you break the rules they actually have punishments, they've taken away wins and championships. This whole process starts when they are little playing on a mini field and can't even tie their own shoes yet. Granted it is a bit tedious for little kids but it sets the tone for order and fairness going forward, by the time they get older it's just part of the game. I know once you get to high school they mix grades together, you can have an 8th or 9th grader playing varsity. That's not the point, you have to create a safe and fair environment starting from the beginning.

My kid plays for Empire and it's been great. The team is competitive and they're being coached by a great varsity coach. The directors are taking over the team next year and they should only get better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter? Thats not the point. If you have a good group of kids with the proper coaching good things happen. Call it A, B C whatever... The problem is too many people are caught up with status and BBQ chatter than their kids being in a good lax environment.

How many good lacrosse environments have you been a part of, especially now that they're in hs. With no governing body or standards the owners have run amok, as well as cost. Covid was used as an excuse for doubling fees and inflating rosters. Did anyone get their money back or see rosters shrink? Personally we're still stuck in the club rat race. If parents are sick of hearing the coaches and their recruiting and motivational pitches imagine how the kids feel. 75% of them will never play again after hs, almost all of them will get into college without lacrosse being a factor. I just wish we (them included) could enjoy the last few years of them playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s be honest it’s Team 91 Fire and everyone else at this point until someone beats them.

Yeah but aren't they all 17 yrs old?

Lol not a one - if you believe that BS you haven’t followed this team over the years. Come by and see what your missing out on - they are special. A number of them started as freshman in the MIAA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol not a one - if you believe that BS you haven’t followed this team over the years. Come by and see what your missing out on - they are special. A number of them started as freshman in the MIAA.

But the debate, which rages on…is holdbacks. But who cares they are all in HS and many of them, if not all are playing vs 10th 11th and 12th graders. So if a 9th grader is older, so what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter? Thats not the point. If you have a good group of kids with the proper coaching good things happen. Call it A, B C whatever... The problem is too many people are caught up with status and BBQ chatter than their kids being in a good lax environment.

Maybe so…but for the kids that were at Showtime this week, it was their club that likely got them there. It’s HS, IMHO if your son just enjoys playing and not concerned with college lax, just stick with what is working, if not, you should find a club that has the right network to help get your son get into meaningful showcases and hopefully committed. Look at results, not promises.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter? Thats not the point. If you have a good group of kids with the proper coaching good things happen. Call it A, B C whatever... The problem is too many people are caught up with status and BBQ chatter than their kids being in a good lax environment.

Maybe so…but for the kids that were at Showtime this week, it was their club that likely got them there. It’s HS, IMHO if your son just enjoys playing and not concerned with college lax, just stick with what is working, if not, you should find a club that has the right network to help get your son get into meaningful showcases and hopefully committed. Look at results, not promises.

Do the math. Most travel rosters have 25 to 30 kids nowadays. The showcases are looking for several players from each club. Many clubs have affiliations and agreements with certain showcases. The parents and players are doing the work, paying the fees and travelling. Clubs will proudly promote their players after they've committed. A club may get you an introduction but that's about it. We've had coaches tell us we're wasting out time because we'd miss one of their events. At the end of the day it's all about being realistic, figuring out what YOUR kid wants and doing a ton of work yourself. Take what everyone else says with a grain of salt, most are full of baloney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter? Thats not the point. If you have a good group of kids with the proper coaching good things happen. Call it A, B C whatever... The problem is too many people are caught up with status and BBQ chatter than their kids being in a good lax environment.

Maybe so…but for the kids that were at Showtime this week, it was their club that likely got them there. It’s HS, IMHO if your son just enjoys playing and not concerned with college lax, just stick with what is working, if not, you should find a club that has the right network to help get your son get into meaningful showcases and hopefully committed. Look at results, not promises.

Agree with the comment wholeheartedly. My son is one who isn’t concerned with playing after HS is over……and it seems like he is in the minority. When did things change so drastically to everything being about showcases and d1 college aspirations??
If my son needed lacrosse to get into a good school, I’d feel like a failure as a parent

My son plays lacrosse because he loves the game…..plays for a club team over the summer because he enjoys the guys on the team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter? Thats not the point. If you have a good group of kids with the proper coaching good things happen. Call it A, B C whatever... The problem is too many people are caught up with status and BBQ chatter than their kids being in a good lax environment.

Maybe so…but for the kids that were at Showtime this week, it was their club that likely got them there. It’s HS, IMHO if your son just enjoys playing and not concerned with college lax, just stick with what is working, if not, you should find a club that has the right network to help get your son get into meaningful showcases and hopefully committed. Look at results, not promises.

Agree with the comment wholeheartedly. My son is one who isn’t concerned with playing after HS is over……and it seems like he is in the minority. When did things change so drastically to everything being about showcases and d1 college aspirations??
If my son needed lacrosse to get into a good school, I’d feel like a failure as a parent

My son plays lacrosse because he loves the game…..plays for a club team over the summer because he enjoys the guys on the team

Less than 10% of current HS and club players will play in college. Since when did club lacrosse become all about recruitment, that's what showcases are for. I agree with the post above that covid changed club lacrosse for the worse. Fees went way up, rosters got bigger and owners keep giving less. Half these teams could hire their own coach and play together anywhere, lightbulb just went off

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter? Thats not the point. If you have a good group of kids with the proper coaching good things happen. Call it A, B C whatever... The problem is too many people are caught up with status and BBQ chatter than their kids being in a good lax environment.

Maybe so…but for the kids that were at Showtime this week, it was their club that likely got them there. It’s HS, IMHO if your son just enjoys playing and not concerned with college lax, just stick with what is working, if not, you should find a club that has the right network to help get your son get into meaningful showcases and hopefully committed. Look at results, not promises.

Agree with the comment wholeheartedly. My son is one who isn’t concerned with playing after HS is over……and it seems like he is in the minority. When did things change so drastically to everything being about showcases and d1 college aspirations??
If my son needed lacrosse to get into a good school, I’d feel like a failure as a parent

My son plays lacrosse because he loves the game…..plays for a club team over the summer because he enjoys the guys on the team

Less than 10% of current HS and club players will play in college. Since when did club lacrosse become all about recruitment, that's what showcases are for. I agree with the post above that covid changed club lacrosse for the worse. Fees went way up, rosters got bigger and owners keep giving less. Half these teams could hire their own coach and play together anywhere, lightbulb just went off

Don’t know, but it’s all about recruitment now. Not saying I like it, but it will be the focus of a lot of these kids starting now. That said, the right club will get you into the right showcases it seems. Look at Showtime this week, your son isn’t going unless your affiliated with a few clubs is appears based on those rosters. BTW those invites go out in the Fall, the club sends the kids. So the point is valid, if it’s all about recruitment, the club 100% matters, just look at the clubs represented at Showtime I.e., if your son is a really good player and your club lacks a network imho you might be on the wrong team if this is something your son wants. if not about recruitment, then it’s about decent coaching and a decent team and hopefully your son enjoys it and gets good minutes in HS. My two cents and my opinion just from what I have observed. Could be wrong, but worth discussing.

Maverick Showtime excepted registrations day of event. And rostered a 2025 player onto the All-Star team, who wasn't even at the event. 😂🤣😂 Tweeted the roster, then took it down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maverick Showtime excepted registrations day of event. And rostered a 2025 player onto the All-Star team, who wasn't even at the event. 😂🤣😂 Tweeted the roster, then took it down

No, that’s not how it works

Truth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maverick Showtime excepted registrations day of event. And rostered a 2025 player onto the All-Star team, who wasn't even at the event. 😂🤣😂 Tweeted the roster, then took it down

No, that’s not how it works

Yes it is….

I know how it works. But I was there when a player registered and paid that morning. And a kid did make the All Star Team without even being there. He was getting all the text 🤣

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know how it works. But I was there when a player registered and paid that morning. And a kid did make the All Star Team without even being there. He was getting all the text 🤣

Are you implying that there is business and politics involved in all of these complete money grab showcases? Can't be! LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is so far behind in policing this issue it's ridiculous. Other sports like ice hockey and soccer have a very good system. It's birth year plain and simple, for this 2025 age group it would be 2007 birth year only. They don't care if you were born on December 31, 2006. You have to submit birth certificates, the kids are issued photo ID cards each year and you have to submit an official roster prior to the season. The referee lines everyone up before each game and checks the cards, protective equipment and the roster. If you break the rules they actually have punishments, they've taken away wins and championships. This whole process starts when they are little playing on a mini field and can't even tie their own shoes yet. Granted it is a bit tedious for little kids but it sets the tone for order and fairness going forward, by the time they get older it's just part of the game. I know once you get to high school they mix grades together, you can have an 8th or 9th grader playing varsity. That's not the point, you have to create a safe and fair environment starting from the beginning.

I agree with you the “holdback” thing gets a bit crazy with a select few programs, but i don’t think you’re grasping the concept. It’s all about recruiting year. College coaches don’t care about your birth year in lax just what class you’re in, that’s what drives it. Hockey is a bad example. Most college coaches don’t recruit from high school and most high level prep players are all hold backs. Your youth hockey example and “safety” are notIntelligent. You said it yourself, you have a December 31, 2006 skating with a January 1, 2006. Full year difference, just like playing against a holdback. FYI my kid isn’t a holdback and I like him playing against older kids… cause I might hold him back in a year or two and laugh when everyone complains!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maverick Showtime excepted registrations day of event. And rostered a 2025 player onto the All-Star team, who wasn't even at the event. 😂🤣😂 Tweeted the roster, then took it down

No, that’s not how it works

Yes it is….

Wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maverick Showtime excepted registrations day of event. And rostered a 2025 player onto the All-Star team, who wasn't even at the event. 😂🤣😂 Tweeted the roster, then took it down

No, that’s not how it works

Yes it is….

Wrong

The all star comment is true. Sort of funny.

2025 Igloo Northface Parents. Classy bunch of people (sarcasm)

Did someone cut you off on 95 after 5 hours in traffic ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2025 Igloo Northface Parents. Classy bunch of people (sarcasm)

Haven't they always been (more sarcasm)

Interesting that all A teams have to leave LI to find tourneys. The only A level HS tourney on Long Island this summer is The Summer Showdown in July. But there is only a handful of A teams on LI. Not ranking save that for the 5th grade thread, just point out those seem to be the only A teams on LI. Don’t give me the nonsense of AA vs A or we have one team, but we are A. If your son’s club has not played one of those teams below. You are B, which is fine. A lot of decent playing lax at that level, just have be with the right club if your sons desire is to play in college.

3 weeks until tryouts start, lol…invest wisely

Express
91
Igloo
Legrush
Regulators
S2S
Rebels

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting that all A teams have to leave LI to find tourneys. The only A level HS tourney on Long Island this summer is The Summer Showdown in July. But there is only a handful of A teams on LI. Not ranking save that for the 5th grade thread, just point out those seem to be the only A teams on LI. Don’t give me the nonsense of AA vs A or we have one team, but we are A. If your son’s club has not played one of those teams below. You are B, which is fine. A lot of decent playing lax at that level, just have be with the right club if your sons desire is to play in college.

3 weeks until tryouts start, lol…invest wisely

Express
91
Igloo
Legrush
Regulators
S2S
Rebels

S2S and Regulators are a joke...get hosed every tournament they play with real competition. The regulators went 1-7 at the world series, pathetic. Won't even speak about Igloo with how shady the people are there.

The NorthFARCE parents are also angry so beware. That club is a powederkeg

Exp and 91..... Then the rest. Igloo/ Stop.... Rebels? Have you seen them? Ill take 60% of "B Teams" to beat them. S2 S is improving. Its Exp and 91 and then PARITY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exp and 91..... Then the rest. Igloo/ Stop.... Rebels? Have you seen them? Ill take 60% of "B Teams" to beat them. S2 S is improving. Its Exp and 91 and then PARITY

There isn’t a B team that could beat Igloo, Regulators or Rebels. For example, The Turtles played a 2026 A team and got smacked. And they just played B all summer and said they were A. The teams above are A teams and play A teams, might not be as good. But they step up and play A. This AA, A, vs B labeling is such nonsense. If you are A, play A. if you are B play B nothing else.

Stop with letters already. It’s high school now. Just play.

Same can be said for all of the A teams. I guess its easier to play out-of-state PAL teams as it boosts the morale and saves the local reputation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exp and 91..... Then the rest. Igloo/ Stop.... Rebels? Have you seen them? Ill take 60% of "B Teams" to beat them. S2 S is improving. Its Exp and 91 and then PARITY

There isn’t a B team that could beat Igloo, Regulators or Rebels. For example, The Turtles played a 2026 A team and got smacked. And they just played B all summer and said they were A. The teams above are A teams and play A teams, might not be as good. But they step up and play A. This AA, A, vs B labeling is such nonsense. If you are A, play A. if you are B play B nothing else.

play A's and getting smacked doesn't make you an A...

Turtles and Igloo organizations lied to the parents and should be ashamed of themselves. Regulators should go back to being a CSH team and shed the Massapequa kids...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exp and 91..... Then the rest. Igloo/ Stop.... Rebels? Have you seen them? Ill take 60% of "B Teams" to beat them. S2 S is improving. Its Exp and 91 and then PARITY

Exp and 91 have owned this division. What I don't understand is why everyone buys into leaving LI every other weekend to to stay at dumpy tournament hotels for NYC prices. If this group all consider their clubs A teams why travel. The reason is because they can't win here, so. Regs are a CSH travel team with a few guests, S2S train wreck but what they all have in common is they beat Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exp and 91..... Then the rest. Igloo/ Stop.... Rebels? Have you seen them? Ill take 60% of "B Teams" to beat them. S2 S is improving. Its Exp and 91 and then PARITY

Exp and 91 have owned this division. What I don't understand is why everyone buys into leaving LI every other weekend to to stay at dumpy tournament hotels for NYC prices. If this group all consider their clubs A teams why travel. The reason is because they can't win here, so. Regs are a CSH travel team with a few guests, S2S train wreck but what they all have in common is they beat Igloo.

And play the same 3-5 teams every week? Legrush Red, Regs, S2S and Rebels are all on the same level. Igloo is better than that group and that leaves 91 and Express. So they have to travel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exp and 91..... Then the rest. Igloo/ Stop.... Rebels? Have you seen them? Ill take 60% of "B Teams" to beat them. S2 S is improving. Its Exp and 91 and then PARITY

Exp and 91 have owned this division. What I don't understand is why everyone buys into leaving LI every other weekend to to stay at dumpy tournament hotels for NYC prices. If this group all consider their clubs A teams why travel. The reason is because they can't win here, so. Regs are a CSH travel team with a few guests, S2S train wreck but what they all have in common is they beat Igloo.

And play the same 3-5 teams every week? Legrush Red, Regs, S2S and Rebels are all on the same level. Igloo is better than that group and that leaves 91 and Express. So they have to travel.

On LI it's the same competition they'll face all hs season. Privates complain they only have a few meaningful games, publics conferences are a mess with lopsided games even in playoffs, so everyone has to play club. So sit back and enjoy spending your weekends travelling 3+ hours each way to watch 3 maybe 4 games. How about making everyone else travel to us to play the best competition. or would that ruin the owners plans of expansion?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is so far behind in policing this issue it's ridiculous. Other sports like ice hockey and soccer have a very good system. It's birth year plain and simple, for this 2025 age group it would be 2007 birth year only. They don't care if you were born on December 31, 2006. You have to submit birth certificates, the kids are issued photo ID cards each year and you have to submit an official roster prior to the season. The referee lines everyone up before each game and checks the cards, protective equipment and the roster. If you break the rules they actually have punishments, they've taken away wins and championships. This whole process starts when they are little playing on a mini field and can't even tie their own shoes yet. Granted it is a bit tedious for little kids but it sets the tone for order and fairness going forward, by the time they get older it's just part of the game. I know once you get to high school they mix grades together, you can have an 8th or 9th grader playing varsity. That's not the point, you have to create a safe and fair environment starting from the beginning.

I agree with you the “holdback” thing gets a bit crazy with a select few programs, but i don’t think you’re grasping the concept. It’s all about recruiting year. College coaches don’t care about your birth year in lax just what class you’re in, that’s what drives it. Hockey is a bad example. Most college coaches don’t recruit from high school and most high level prep players are all hold backs. Your youth hockey example and “safety” are notIntelligent. You said it yourself, you have a December 31, 2006 skating with a January 1, 2006. Full year difference, just like playing against a holdback. FYI my kid isn’t a holdback and I like him playing against older kids… cause I might hold him back in a year or two and laugh when everyone complains!

Your take on college hockey is wrong. Under current rules (for D1 - other divisions are slightly different), contact can not be made until January 1 of the player's sophomore year of HS, and offers can not go out until August 1 prior to their junior year. But all of these players are recruited out of their birth year clubs playing in birth year leagues/tournaments. Your statement that they don't recruit from HS is correct - they recruit instead from birth year travel teams. And your statement that most of the kids at prep schools are holdbacks is also true. But these same players are playing on birth year travel teams, and it's from these teams that they are mainly scouted. Some, who go to really high end Prep School teams, may leave the travel team system, but for the most part these kids were "found" out of their travel team. The college hockey coaches, I am told, like this system because they are watching like vs. like, and it makes for a better projection. They offer kids based on what they see out of the birth year teams, and then have the kid enroll whenever the kids is ready to play. For many of these kids, especially if they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks, this means they are told to play on a junior team after HS but before enrollment at the college. If the kid is already a double holdback then they will enroll after HS graduation.

The college coach in D1 hockey cares about birth year, but only to the extent that it informs them as to development. But they care less about grad year - its only relevant because they have to obey rules about when to contact and offer. Instead, they are simply looking for the best talent and will have that kid enroll when the kid is ready to play. In identifying the best talent at such young ages, it's best to watch kids compete against other kids in a finite age window consistent year after year.

D1 lax coaches would transition easily to recruiting in a birth year system. For instance, they will watch 2006 tournaments and showcases, and same for 2007, identify the best players, contact them when permitted to do so, offer them when permitted to do so, and enroll them when they are ready. When watching kids compete against each other in June, 2022, there is no reason that all of these kids need to be starting their college careers at the same time.

On LI it's the same competition they'll face all hs season. Privates complain they only have a few meaningful games, publics conferences are a mess with lopsided games even in playoffs, so everyone has to play club. So sit back and enjoy spending your weekends travelling 3+ hours each way to watch 3 maybe 4 games. How about making everyone else travel to us to play the best competition. or would that ruin the owners plans of expansion?[/quote]

Not sure what Privates you talking about... St. Anthony's and Chaminade have meaningful and tough schedules. As far as public school, yes it's a mess and the "top" teams should play in their own conference. It's very misleading for a public team to go 10-1 vs. VERY weak competition, it's very misleading. Let them play the 5-6 other strong teams and see what their record is.

91, Express, S2s would beat them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]91, Express, S2s would beat them

Please explain what you mean by legit. Any program that is allowing your kid to improve and play is legit. Most of the clubs are about profits, that's it. You don't have to be one of 20 kids standing on the sidelines for the big programs to be a good player. So what if they don't win a t-shirt every weekend. Play for fun and enjoy the other parents around you. Some are clicky as heck. Too many club hoppers looking to jump because they think they'll get recruited. Most of these kids will never play after hs, no matter what your director or coach says. Transfer portal, post grad years, going to small college most have never heard of. If that's what your kid wants than go for it, but first ask what the end game is.

Tryouts are here already in 10 days! Club choice is everything now. If your son wants to play on the next level there is a spot for everyone. However, use this summer to decide what is the best situation. Not advocating for one club over another. But do your research and ask questions about events, roster size, film, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91, Express, S2s would beat them

S2S, impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91, Express, S2s would beat them

S2S, impressive.

91 is the best team on the island. Express has fallen off, they were better when they were younger. S2S is a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91, Express, S2s would beat them

S2S, impressive.

91 is the best team on the island. Express has fallen off, they were better when they were younger. S2S is a joke

91 played Express at NLF. Not a big difference there or anywhere. Especially at this grade level. 91 got beat easily by Tri State and DC Express a few weeks ago at the Great 8. It’s 91 Maryland and then like 10 teams after that.

2025 GC tradition open tryouts including all outside of GC per IG post. Anyone gather how many spots are available and if team is any good.

GC tradition is a girls program

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are here already in 10 days! Club choice is everything now. If your son wants to play on the next level there is a spot for everyone. However, use this summer to decide what is the best situation. Not advocating for one club over another. But do your research and ask questions about events, roster size, film, etc.

Great, can't wait. Paying $100 for the privilege of trying out for a team that carries 30 players and we've been there 4 years. We're in HS, how many new spots can possibly be open for kids to tryout? Disgustingly they don't even put the tryout fee towards the yearly bill. Maybe they'll create a B team that can barely throw or catch, great idea. These clubs are all the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are here already in 10 days! Club choice is everything now. If your son wants to play on the next level there is a spot for everyone. However, use this summer to decide what is the best situation. Not advocating for one club over another. But do your research and ask questions about events, roster size, film, etc.

Great, can't wait. Paying $100 for the privilege of trying out for a team that carries 30 players and we've been there 4 years. We're in HS, how many new spots can possibly be open for kids to tryout? Disgustingly they don't even put the tryout fee towards the yearly bill. Maybe they'll create a B team that can barely throw or catch, great idea. These clubs are all the same.

My point…kinda…there are good situations out there. Also, the 30 man rosters is on the parents. Why would you pay for it? How about having the director guarantee that the roster won’t exceed 25. And if it does have them refund your money. What’s the worst they say? No…okay, next. YOU are the customer, don’t let your son become just another entry on a balance sheet. Respectfully make demands as you would with anybody you are a paying a service for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not only were the Turtles in the B bracket but they got embarrassed once again. The players on that team have no business playing in the A brackets anyway.

They played A competition this weekend as promised at tryouts…2026 Storm beat them kinda easy.

Best post of the summer so far

They should win the FLG Big X this weekend. Best team in there is Team Huntington and they are in the other bracket.

They probably lose to Roar too

Yup and rumor is they are losing their top 2 players to A teams, where honestly they belong. They are not B players.

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

S2S plays mickey mouse tourneys to boost ranking. When they play real teams they usually lose - this is at most of their age levels btw.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

Turtles? Who makes these rankings? Exp is easily the best of this bunch. East Coast is good too. Rebels improving but a few players away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

If "they have a goal of playing in college" and they play on a B team you might want to discuss realistic expectations because at least half of the kids on A teams are not good enough to play in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

If "they have a goal of playing in college" and they play on a B team you might want to discuss realistic expectations because at least half of the kids on A teams are not good enough to play in college.

Division 1 you are correct and parents need to do that more. But there is plenty of opportunities in D2 and D3 for all players and that is fact. And yes, you must do the work and not rely on the club until the end of the process. You should all be discussing this with your sons club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

It is important IMHO in the sense that if your son wants to play in college that (a) there is a place for most players and (b) you have to play, not ride the bench, on the best team possible at this point.

What makes the best team? The team with the best coaches? The team with the best win/loss record? The team that plays in better tournaments? The team that practices more than the rest? The team that can actually help the recruiting process?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What makes the best team? The team with the best coaches? The team with the best win/loss record? The team that plays in better tournaments? The team that practices more than the rest? The team that can actually help the recruiting process?

Depends on what you are looking for and don't forget the kid's enjoyment should be number one.

What kind of clown ranks kids club lacrosse? Will anyone remember?

Rankings dont matter for club lacrosse especially at the high school level. The only thing it does is a high ranking usually means they are playing against a good level of competition, win or lose, so in that sense, that is what rankings are good for.

It is correct, most kids dont go on to play lacrosse...D1 lacrosse that is. There are almost 75 D2 and almost 300 D3 lacrosse programs. If a kid wants to play lacrosse in school, they can find it

The best clubs, at least for high school, IMHO is: the one your kid is having fun on, plays against the best competition so they get better, and helps with recruiting. Most wont help with recruiting at the high level D1 / D3 colleges unless your kids is exceptional, but some of them will help with recruiting if they their rank list is not at the high level colleges, unless there is a connection. Sadly, there are many clubs that promise help with recruiting and dont deliver. Your best bet is to reach out to the graduating / graduated years to see.

Not only would you be better of spending your money on tutoring for grades but if your club does not help with recruiting, skip club and save the money for prospect days and showcases, which they themselves are a minefield to navigate. I do agree the one thing being part of a top club does get you is access to invite only showcases.

Now if your kid is exceptional, lets say, top 20 at your position, all of this is moot because someone will find them. Conversely, if your goal is not to go to a high academic, top college, you will find a spot for your kid. This is the bell curve for probably 80% of the kids out there. Of course there are outliers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2S plays mickey mouse tourneys to boost ranking. When they play real teams they usually lose - this is at most of their age levels btw.

Why, because they're smart enough not to travel to travel out of state every weekend. We're fine being underrated. Guess you forgot what happened against the chilly club who claims they have a B team but doesn't.

Ouch. The Penguin Club team is just about out of gas. They will get rolled at their next tourney and then the director can hit parents up for next year's tuition the day after. MAybe they will have a 'C" team because they are soooo good?

Rankings done independently are interesting and I believe a lot of people care about them. The ones that don’t are ranked low and the ones that do are ranked higher. Lol…at least it gives you another factor when looking at potential teams your son should try out for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ouch. The Penguin Club team is just about out of gas. They will get rolled at their next tourney and then the director can hit parents up for next year's tuition the day after. MAybe they will have a 'C" team because they are soooo good?

I'm sure they'll have some more B tournaments to enter their stud team into. Parents must be so proud. Didn't they lose to S2S and CSH/Regs, or are they claiming it was their non existent B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles? Who makes these rankings? Exp is easily the best of this bunch. East Coast is good too. Rebels improving but a few players away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles? Who makes these rankings? Exp is easily the best of this bunch. East Coast is good too. Rebels improving but a few players away.

Express and ECE are far away the best 2nd level teams on Long Island. They certain all stepped while FLG, 91, S2S, True Blue and Turtles all seemingly took a step back in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles? Who makes these rankings? Exp is easily the best of this bunch. East Coast is good too. Rebels improving but a few players away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles? Who makes these rankings? Exp is easily the best of this bunch. East Coast is good too. Rebels improving but a few players away.

Express and ECE are far away the best 2nd level teams on Long Island. They certain all stepped while FLG, 91, S2S, True Blue and Turtles all seemingly took a step back in my opinion.

Express won back to back championships vs. ECE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

If "they have a goal of playing in college" and they play on a B team you might want to discuss realistic expectations because at least half of the kids on A teams are not good enough to play in college.

Division 1 you are correct and parents need to do that more. But there is plenty of opportunities in D2 and D3 for all players and that is fact. And yes, you must do the work and not rely on the club until the end of the process. You should all be discussing this with your sons club.

My son went the D3 route. School and atmosphere just wasn't what he wanted. Transferred to large university playing club. Half the kids on his team either transferred in or didn't want to give up enjoying college just to lax. Most teams in MCLA top division can play with any D2/D3 and probably lower end of D1. He couldn't be happier. Loves the school and is able to experience all that they offer socially and outside the university. Don't get caught up in D1 or bust. Pick the school first without thinking about lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

If "they have a goal of playing in college" and they play on a B team you might want to discuss realistic expectations because at least half of the kids on A teams are not good enough to play in college.

Not sure about that. If people get the A team vs B team mentality out of their heads and stop jumping teams, B teams can develop into great squads. My friends son is a 2023 and plays for 91’s B team. They all decided to stay together and I think they are ranked in the top 10 in the country and they have 8-10 D1 commits on the team. The A teams was ranked # 4. That’s a legitimate reason to stay and develop on a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

If "they have a goal of playing in college" and they play on a B team you might want to discuss realistic expectations because at least half of the kids on A teams are not good enough to play in college.

Not sure about that. If people get the A team vs B team mentality out of their heads and stop jumping teams, B teams can develop into great squads. My friends son is a 2023 and plays for 91’s B team. They all decided to stay together and I think they are ranked in the top 10 in the country and they have 8-10 D1 commits on the team. The A teams was ranked # 4. That’s a legitimate reason to stay and develop on a B team.

So true. B teams actually used to be very hard to make. But entitled parents will annoy directors and have their son placed on a team they can’t ordinarily make. If you have ask to practice with the top team or take a spot that is contingent on not a lot of playing time…Your son's not good enough doesn’t mean he is a not good player, just the other kids are better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

If "they have a goal of playing in college" and they play on a B team you might want to discuss realistic expectations because at least half of the kids on A teams are not good enough to play in college.

Not sure about that. If people get the A team vs B team mentality out of their heads and stop jumping teams, B teams can develop into great squads. My friends son is a 2023 and plays for 91’s B team. They all decided to stay together and I think they are ranked in the top 10 in the country and they have 8-10 D1 commits on the team. The A teams was ranked # 4. That’s a legitimate reason to stay and develop on a B team.

That is the one team out of hundreds of other B teams that don't have a single college caliber player. And I don't mean someone who gets on a college roster and stands on the sidelines for 4 years.

You're an adult male, arguing about a kid's game, think how pathetic you sound.

PT always gives the shock a hard time. Both teams are very good.

So Legacy Red and White never play on the same weekend. Are these teams two separate teams or do Red players move down to White to round out the roster.

East Coast Elite Lacrosse club is no longer under Dynamic. Dollar out of Sayville is the director with a bunch of really great coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

East Coast Elite Lacrosse club is no longer under Dynamic. Dollar out of Sayville is the director with a bunch of really great coaches.

They have a philosophy of Long Island only, correct? I get that and see the benefits. But you have to travel occasionally, especially for HS. They played Express 4 times and lost in the Championship game twice. You want more variety than that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

East Coast Elite Lacrosse club is no longer under Dynamic. Dollar out of Sayville is the director with a bunch of really great coaches.

They have a philosophy of Long Island only, correct? I get that and see the benefits. But you have to travel occasionally, especially for HS. They played Express 4 times and lost in the Championship game twice. You want more variety than that.

Why do you need variety? lacrosse is lacrosse. Play the same tea, 10 times and you have a different outcome each time. Even if you lose all 10 games, so what? PARENTS and CLUB DIRECTORS are the only ones who care about wins and losses. You need to judge success based on two simple factors: Is your son better at the end of the year than he was at the beginning and did he have fun?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

East Coast Elite Lacrosse club is no longer under Dynamic. Dollar out of Sayville is the director with a bunch of really great coaches.

They have a philosophy of Long Island only, correct? I get that and see the benefits. But you have to travel occasionally, especially for HS. They played Express 4 times and lost in the Championship game twice. You want more variety than that.

Why do you need variety? lacrosse is lacrosse. Play the same tea, 10 times and you have a different outcome each time. Even if you lose all 10 games, so what? PARENTS and CLUB DIRECTORS are the only ones who care about wins and losses. You need to judge success based on two simple factors: Is your son better at the end of the year than he was at the beginning and did he have fun?

You make a valid point, at this age I look around at the kids' faces in between games and I wonder how many of them are actually having fun? Seems like parents, clubs, teams, peers, whatever it is has taken all the joy out of it. Probably the same goes for other sports, by high school age it seems to become more of a chore than a source of enjoyment.

My sons East Coast team went to Naptown last year. The older teams play in showcase type tournys on the island and 1 away tourny

My sons coaches were excellent.. Bayport Varsity coach

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Worry about your kid and your program and stop trying to start rumors. Both programs will be fine without you and your nonsense.

the mt. sinai coaches are taking over the empire team next year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the mt. sinai coaches are taking over the empire team next year

i didn't realize empire was still around. i've been to dozens of tournaments over the last few years and i haven't seen them once?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Worry about your kid and your program and stop trying to start rumors. Both programs will be fine without you and your nonsense.

Sorry I was under the impression that this was a forum to discuss 2025 lacrosse teams. Sorry if i offended you Mr B. It must sting when your poster child ditches you for CoachC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Will they be bringing some A players to the B tournament this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Worry about your kid and your program and stop trying to start rumors. Both programs will be fine without you and your nonsense.

These are good questions with tryouts looming. Haven’t heard anything about the Regulators or Rebels. But I suspect Rebels kids will be on the move. As will be the case with most clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Worry about your kid and your program and stop trying to start rumors. Both programs will be fine without you and your nonsense.

Sorry I was under the impression that this was a forum to discuss 2025 lacrosse teams. Sorry if i offended you Mr B. It must sting when your poster child ditches you for CoachC.

Addition by subtraction on both ends of the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Will they be bringing some A players to the B tournament this weekend?

You must mean Igloo

They dont have any A players so there goes that theory

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Will they be bringing some A players to the B tournament this weekend?

You must mean Igloo

Im sure they will as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Rebels are a joke. Regulators will be better off, addition through subtraction. Losing Massapequa kids so it's a win for the regulators

Originally Posted by Anonymous

East Coast Elite Lacrosse club is no longer under Dynamic. Dollar out of Sayville is the director with a bunch of really great coaches.

They have a philosophy of Long Island only, correct? I get that and see the benefits. But you have to travel occasionally, especially for HS. They played Express 4 times and lost in the Championship game twice. You want more variety than that.

Why do you need variety? lacrosse is lacrosse. Play the same tea, 10 times and you have a different outcome each time. Even if you lose all 10 games, so what? PARENTS and CLUB DIRECTORS are the only ones who care about wins and losses. You need to judge success based on two simple factors: Is your son better at the end of the year than he was at the beginning and did he have fun?

You make a valid point, at this age I look around at the kids' faces in between games and I wonder how many of them are actually having fun? Seems like parents, clubs, teams, peers, whatever it is has taken all the joy out of it. Probably the same goes for other sports, by high school age it seems to become more of a chore than a source of enjoyment.

There are so many quality tournament on or near LI, I like the idea of not having to drive/fly every weekend to play the same teams. Maybe one away tourney and the rest local is a great idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the US Club lax rankings for Long Island B teams, might be of interest for those not on an A team roster and wants a tryout for a solid B team with good support and resources for recruiting.

#137 Turtles
#145 Express
#162 East Coast
#172 91 Hornets
#173 True Blue
#199 Rebels
#230 FLG
#232 Epic Jokers
#237 S2S Sharks
#239 Icon
#275 United

Who cares about rankings in HS ages?!?!?
The goal should be finding a team where your son will have a role and play quality minutes on the field.
If they have a goal of playing in college, access to showcases should be one of your deciding factors too. Nobody cares about rankings anymore

Clubs won't do the heavy lifting in recruiting for your son, although they say the will. Leverage the clubs going forward for their ability to get into good showcases

If "they have a goal of playing in college" and they play on a B team you might want to discuss realistic expectations because at least half of the kids on A teams are not good enough to play in college.

Not sure about that. If people get the A team vs B team mentality out of their heads and stop jumping teams, B teams can develop into great squads. My friends son is a 2023 and plays for 91’s B team. They all decided to stay together and I think they are ranked in the top 10 in the country and they have 8-10 D1 commits on the team. The A teams was ranked # 4. That’s a legitimate reason to stay and develop on a B team.

That is the one team out of hundreds of other B teams that don't have a single college caliber player. And I don't mean someone who gets on a college roster and stands on the sidelines for 4 years.

While I agree that that is probably the exception rather than the rule, but it does sound like staying with a club and not bouncing around looking for the bigger better club can work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

East Coast Elite Lacrosse club is no longer under Dynamic. Dollar out of Sayville is the director with a bunch of really great coaches.

They have a philosophy of Long Island only, correct? I get that and see the benefits. But you have to travel occasionally, especially for HS. They played Express 4 times and lost in the Championship game twice. You want more variety than that.

Why do you need variety? lacrosse is lacrosse. Play the same tea, 10 times and you have a different outcome each time. Even if you lose all 10 games, so what? PARENTS and CLUB DIRECTORS are the only ones who care about wins and losses. You need to judge success based on two simple factors: Is your son better at the end of the year than he was at the beginning and did he have fun?

You make a valid point, at this age I look around at the kids' faces in between games and I wonder how many of them are actually having fun? Seems like parents, clubs, teams, peers, whatever it is has taken all the joy out of it. Probably the same goes for other sports, by high school age it seems to become more of a chore than a source of enjoyment.

There are so many quality tournament on or near LI, I like the idea of not having to drive/fly every weekend to play the same teams. Maybe one away tourney and the rest local is a great idea.

Yes, but bottom line is if you’re choosing a club like you’re shopping for a deal at the supermarket is a mistake in my opinion. Tryout for the best club your son can make and one where he will play meaningful minutes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Rebels are a joke. Regulators will be better off, addition through subtraction. Losing Massapequa kids so it's a win for the regulators

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Rebels are a joke. Regulators will be better off, addition through subtraction. Losing Massapequa kids so it's a win for the regulators

Regulators is a joke, coaches created a team to showcase their average sons. Added the kids from massapequa / south shore kids that CSH dads were angry about because they were better then their kids. daddy ball at it’s finest..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles? Who makes these rankings? Exp is easily the best of this bunch. East Coast is good too. Rebels improving but a few players away.

Turtles two best players are moving on.

Rebels took over E3 and Epic Jokers and made them Rebels East . They are primarily in the uniform business

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels took over E3 and Epic Jokers and made them Rebels East . They are primarily in the uniform business

Smart move. They increased their market share. This is how 91 and some of the other big clubs got their level . It’s been happening for years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Will they be bringing some A players to the B tournament this weekend?

You must mean Igloo

Im sure they will as well.

After their performances this week Rebels, Igloo, Regulators and S2S should stay in the B division. But here's what will happen; they'll try to poach a few top kids off teams other teams thinking that will make a difference. Since they couldn't develop the team and players they have they will continue to stink. 91 and Express both got humbled so they'll be out poaching too. Nobody's safe lol.

one turtle player already moved on...and one rebel player is leaving. Both leaving for the same team with the new coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Will they be bringing some A players to the B tournament this weekend?

You must mean Igloo

Im sure they will as well.

After their performances this week Rebels, Igloo, Regulators and S2S should stay in the B division. But here's what will happen; they'll try to poach a few top kids off teams other teams thinking that will make a difference. Since they couldn't develop the team and players they have they will continue to stink. 91 and Express both got humbled so they'll be out poaching too. Nobody's safe lol.

Rebels right there. Just beat Express North Black which shows they can match with the best. If they pick up a few pieces will be right there with all. They do just as good a job recruiting as anyone so wouldn't be surprised.

What program is the one with the new coaches ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What program is the one with the new coaches ?

Someone yesterday said Empire is getting the mt. sinai coaches to take over that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the deal with Rebels? Heard a bunch of kids left. Also Regulators. Heard a bunch leaving.

Will they be bringing some A players to the B tournament this weekend?

You must mean Igloo

Im sure they will as well.

After their performances this week Rebels, Igloo, Regulators and S2S should stay in the B division. But here's what will happen; they'll try to poach a few top kids off teams other teams thinking that will make a difference. Since they couldn't develop the team and players they have they will continue to stink. 91 and Express both got humbled so they'll be out poaching too. Nobody's safe lol.

Rebels right there. Just beat Express North Black which shows they can match with the best. If they pick up a few pieces will be right there with all. They do just as good a job recruiting as anyone so wouldn't be surprised.

And then they get embarrassed by the Sixers team from CO. who they beat in the World Series last year. The Rebels are on a downward swing my friends.

That’s promoting. State the games you win. It’s business. Some clubs do that on every age on this site. Teams can go a weekend and actually lose 3 out of 5 games. They will post about the 2 wins. Talking about or writing about the 3 losses is bad for business. Same thing when kids make those highlight videos with the music. Every shot they take is a goal. Every pass is a great pass. Goalie videos every shot is a save. That’s the American way. Promote the good things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

one turtle player already moved on...and one rebel player is leaving. Both leaving for the same team with the new coaches

Turtles in my opinion are taking a big step back. They are likely losing players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

one turtle player already moved on...and one rebel player is leaving. Both leaving for the same team with the new coaches

Turtles in my opinion are taking a big step back. They are likely losing players.

There is always movement at this time of year. Why not? That's a good thing. Push to see where they fit. If it doesn't work, you took a shot.

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

Turtles probably done at most ages. legacy iglioo s2s treading down. Rebels are exploding. Some ages are going to have 7 plus teams between li and other locations. Watch the next couple weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.

Too funny, that’s exactly what they do.. can go 0-5 and they put on highlights of the 2 goals thru score lol. What a joke of a program

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.

Too funny, that’s exactly what they do.. can go 0-5 and they put on highlights of the 2 goals thru score lol. What a joke of a program

Joke of a program because they promote their kids through social media ? Funny how other programs trying to copy them now….

Also a parent said they are happy. You from the outside say “they post on social media” as it’s a bad thing. There teams seem to be doing just fine without you lol!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.

Too funny, that’s exactly what they do.. can go 0-5 and they put on highlights of the 2 goals thru score lol. What a joke of a program

Yes. Terrible of them to promote their players and give the kids a little something to like.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.[/quote]

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.[/quote]

Too funny, that’s exactly what they do.. can go 0-5 and they put on highlights of the 2 goals thru score lol. What a joke of a program[/quote]

Yes. Terrible of them to promote their players and give the kids a little something to like.[/quote]

Well we found the Rebels daddies, I bet you celebrate you kids D's on his report card because hey at least he answered a few questions right... everyone gets a trophy. It's inherently dishonest by making it appear the team is better than it is, then parents join and are like with. Showing a kid get 1 goal in a game you lost 10-1 is absurd. The difference between other teams is they actually win. And I have news for you, the top teams 91 and Express don't need social media marketing because when you win that's all the advertising the program needs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.[/quote]

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.[/quote]

Too funny, that’s exactly what they do.. can go 0-5 and they put on highlights of the 2 goals thru score lol. What a joke of a program[/quote]

Joke of a program because they promote their kids through social media ? Funny how other programs trying to copy them now….

Also a parent said they are happy. You from the outside say “they post on social media” as it’s a bad thing. There teams seem to be doing just fine without you lol![/quote]

The roster is manageable, everyone plays, parents and players content, sounds awful. Maybe rethink why you keep your kid on a team with 30 other players, never seeing the field, the coach showcases only several players and you complain every weekend about meaningful minutes. Coach tells you hang in there your kid will hit puberty soon and be a fool, while he brings in other players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.[/quote]

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.[/quote]

Too funny, that’s exactly what they do.. can go 0-5 and they put on highlights of the 2 goals thru score lol. What a joke of a program[/quote]

Joke of a program because they promote their kids through social media ? Funny how other programs trying to copy them now….

Also a parent said they are happy. You from the outside say “they post on social media” as it’s a bad thing. There teams seem to be doing just fine without you lol![/quote]

The roster is manageable, everyone plays, parents and players content, sounds awful. Maybe rethink why you keep your kid on a team with 30 other players, never seeing the field, the coach showcases only several players and you complain every weekend about meaningful minutes. Coach tells you hang in there your kid will hit puberty soon and be a stud, while he brings in other players. Wake up $tunnad it's all about putting money in your owners pocket so the studs don't leave. Sound familiar?[/quote]

Actually no, because my kid plays and I don't pay full price. Nice try, keep up that attitude with your kid...maybe that's why he's not good.

Actually no, because my kid plays and I don't pay full price. Nice try, keep up that attitude with your kid...maybe that's why he's not good.

Why are you so against parents being happy and content. Who cares what they do and don’t do. Why does this bother you so much. Seems like you have issues. Mental healthcare is important. I would seek some professional help if I were you. Good luck. I hope some day you find some happiness.

So looking forward to posts about tryouts. “Talent was incredible” “Huge numbers” “definitely two A teams will be formed” “lotsa other club helmets there” did I miss any?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So looking forward to posts about tryouts. “Talent was incredible” “Huge numbers” “definitely two A teams will be formed” “lotsa other club helmets there” did I miss any?

Usually at this age there are no tryouts. email the organization and theyll invite you to a practice

If your kid is going into 10th grade and still has to tryout for a team then you should just stay wherever you are. The better players are getting invites back or getting contacted by other programs, not chasing spots.

What's the story with Express new player, team mom and social media guy? Did the circus pack up and move the same tired show to a new club?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So looking forward to posts about tryouts. “Talent was incredible” “Huge numbers” “definitely two A teams will be formed” “lotsa other club helmets there” did I miss any?

Usually at this age there are no tryouts. email the organization and theyll invite you to a practice

Every team has a tryout. It's called a tryout fee even though typically there are no spots on team at this grade. Notice I didn't say age, won't touch that one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First year with rebels B team and we loved all that came with it. Tons of trainings, workouts, etc. The coaches are high energy, passionate, care about the kids. From my understanding made great strides from a year ago. Few pieces to add for sure, but happy with what they have going on.

That's cool. Maybe don't bring some A team kids to B tournaments.

No need, they are in the bottom division at Lake George this weekend. Stand by for insta highlights.[/quote]

Too funny, that’s exactly what they do.. can go 0-5 and they put on highlights of the 2 goals thru score lol. What a joke of a program[/quote]

Yes. Terrible of them to promote their players and give the kids a little something to like.[/quote]

Well we found the Rebels daddies, I bet you celebrate you kids D's on his report card because hey at least he answered a few questions right... everyone gets a trophy. It's inherently dishonest by making it appear the team is better than it is, then parents join and are like with. Showing a kid get 1 goal in a game you lost 10-1 is absurd. The difference between other teams is they actually win. And I have news for you, the top teams 91 and Express don't need social media marketing because when you win that's all the advertising the program needs.[/quote]

Are you an actual adult? Are you really comparing kiddie lacrosse games? Must be a pretty hollow life you lead there slick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the story with Express new player, team mom and social media guy? Did the circus pack up and move the same tired show to a new club?

Great kid and family. Nice try. Go back to enjoying yours shiney red helmet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid is going into 10th grade and still has to tryout for a team then you should just stay wherever you are. The better players are getting invites back or getting contacted by other programs, not chasing spots.

So I disagree a bit (respectfully). You should all see what kind playing time your son got this summer and use that as a gauge. No need to be a practice player or garbage time minutes player in 10th grade. You should use these last two years be on a team where your son is playing the most minutes. If that means a 2nd tier team, then yes, your son is at that level. So don’t go to D1 prospect days and get on the right team, with the right exposure, combined with a club that has a great network.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the story with Express new player, team mom and social media guy? Did the circus pack up and move the same tired show to a new club?

Great kid and family. Nice try. Go back to enjoying yours shiney red helmet.

Thanks Momma

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the story with Express new player, team mom and social media guy? Did the circus pack up and move the same tired show to a new club?

Great kid and family. Nice try. Go back to enjoying yours shiney red helmet.

Thanks Momma

Mama goose, mama rebel or mama CoachC?

Nobody said they are bad people. Just pointed out a pattern of behavior that has been repeated several times. They use people and move on. At the end of the day none of it will matter because you prove yourself on the field not on instagram.

What a sad sad story this is. Feel bad for kid.

Nobody said anything bad. Just pointed out a pattern of behavior that been repeated multiple times. It doesn’t matter because at the end of the day you prove yourself on the field not instagram.

91 Hornets? Over their heads at NLF. Team has slid a bit this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets? Over their heads at NLF. Team has slid a bit this year.

That’s what happens when you only play half the kids on the team. They’re worn out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets? Over their heads at NLF. Team has slid a bit this year.

That’s what happens when you only play half the kids on the team. They’re worn out

On a B team? That’s sad… play everyone, doesn’t have ti be equal but if you can’t get everyone in a game , c’mon…you were still 0-3.

Everyone that is worried about being on B team..look at 2023 91 and Express, two fantastic teams and well coached. Trust the process!

Interesting no try outs for 91 for this grade. So no cuts?

Which "B" teams are worth trying out for at this point? I heard 91 Hornets a mess, Tru Blue the same... Turtles? Who is the best "B" team out there?

Going into Sophomore year now. The answer is none. Let him play in high school. Maybe train on the side. Go to a few local showcases. Save a few grand as well.

As a parent who commented earlier in this thread, just stating that we are happy with our organization, who is a B team. I would echo again and give praise to the Rebels Red Hawks, which is considered a "B" team. That team specifically has delivered on everything we have asked for from trainings, workouts, clinics, practices, etc. In addition, the coaches coach, they are extremely positive and they have a contagious energy about them, the kids are all bought in. My son has found a niche position with the team, he has accepted the role, has really done well with it and now is looking to develop further on other areas in his game. This was sought out and helped by the coaches. In short, I would take a look at what they are all about, if you are in the market for a new team.

Absolutely! You have to dance with the ones that brung you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which "B" teams are worth trying out for at this point? I heard 91 Hornets a mess, Tru Blue the same... Turtles? Who is the best "B" team out there?

rankings for 2nd tier teams based on the summer. Express had the best summer by far.

Express
ECE
Epic Jokers
FLG
Rebels
Turtles
91
S2S
Icon
Empire
Checkmate
True Blue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which "B" teams are worth trying out for at this point? I heard 91 Hornets a mess, Tru Blue the same... Turtles? Who is the best "B" team out there?

None of the additional B programs are worth the expense, especially since the cost is equal to their A teams. How does that even make sense? Almost all of the B teams have to supplement tournaments with A players. Coaching is typically subpar and the commitment is lacking. You need to be on the A team or playing for an organization that has only one team at this grade. Otherwise find another option or program. I have no problem with teams playing at a B level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which "B" teams are worth trying out for at this point? I heard 91 Hornets a mess, Tru Blue the same... Turtles? Who is the best "B" team out there?

None of the additional B programs are worth the expense, especially since the cost is equal to their A teams. How does that even make sense? Almost all of the B teams have to supplement tournaments with A players. Coaching is typically subpar and the commitment is lacking. You need to be on the A team or playing for an organization that has only one team at this grade. Otherwise find another option or program. I have no problem with teams playing at a B level.

Depends, for some 2nd teams yes used A players and that stinks for the team.. However, for some B teams are decent. And Some A teams that are really B teams have good situations and some do not.. Point is do you’re own research and figure it. These clubs will all sell college recruiting and talk about commitments, all good exactly what you want, but exactly how many of their 2023s are committed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the story with Express new player, team mom and social media guy? Did the circus pack up and move the same tired show to a new club?

Great kid and family. Nice try. Go back to enjoying yours shiney red helmet.

Thanks Momma

Mama goose, mama rebel or mama CoachC?

You forgot about mama friar. Four teams same blueprint.

"Mama Friar" OMG Remember tho: Kids read these posts so lets try not to be "That guy" Lets stick to ripping teams, not individuals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Mama Friar" OMG Remember tho: Kids read these posts so lets try not to be "That guy" Lets stick to ripping teams, not individuals.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Mama Friar" OMG Remember tho: Kids read these posts so lets try not to be "That guy" Lets stick to ripping teams, not individuals.

Agreed.

No sympathy for anyone who brings it on themselves and I doubt many kids read this. Just change the behavior and it all goes away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Mama Friar" OMG Remember tho: Kids read these posts so lets try not to be "That guy" Lets stick to ripping teams, not individuals.

Agreed.

No sympathy for anyone who brings it on themselves and I doubt many kids read this. Just change the behavior and it all goes away.

They appear to have made a great choice by attending St Anthonys and now playing for Express. I mean honestly, what’s the issue. Play for the Rebels or play for the Express is that really a debate??? It’s not…for 10 years clubs have tried be on the level of Express and 91 and all have come up short. Igloo and S2S had some decent teams at certain ages, but in totality. It’s 91 and Express and everyone else imho.

Drove past the wading river park today on way home from work and some team must have had tryouts today because there were a ton of cars and hundreds of kids playing lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Mama Friar" OMG Remember tho: Kids read these posts so lets try not to be "That guy" Lets stick to ripping teams, not individuals.

Agreed.

No sympathy for anyone who brings it on themselves and I doubt many kids read this. Just change the behavior and it all goes away.

They appear to have made a great choice by attending St Anthonys and now playing for Express. I mean honestly, what’s the issue. Play for the Rebels or play for the Express is that really a debate??? It’s not…for 10 years clubs have tried be on the level of Express and 91 and all have come up short. Igloo and S2S had some decent teams at certain ages, but in totality. It’s 91 and Express and everyone else imho.

I’m certain no one from their school district or former club teams were sad to see either of them leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone that is worried about being on B team..look at 2023 91 and Express, two fantastic teams and well coached. Trust the process!

These are perfect examples of parents who stick together and continue to build continuity as a team. The problem is that so many dads have huge egos and are constantly moving their kid from team to team trying to get on the best team out there, only for his son to ride the bench. If your kid bounces from team to team each year, you are the problem. Get on a team that will put you against the best possible competition. It’s that simple. The 2023 B teams play in great tourneys against AA clubs regularly. A kid who plays quality minutes in those tourneys will get seen more than a bench warmer on an A team.

Those are 2 teams out of 100s of teams. This isn’t the norm. What about all the B teams that have 7 kids that attend practice? What about all the B teams where the coach and organization just don’t care that much? Substitute coaches for tournaments because coach didn’t attend. What about the B teams when kids can’t catch and throw? What about the B teams when kids show up at tryouts with football helmets, because they don’t know the difference and they make the team. Is it good to stick around for situations like this. What’s the process with this? I’ve seen this many times over the years.

Express 2025 "B" is another fine example. That team went off this year and improved each time we saw them. There is no secret sauce: Get your kid on a team where there are no politics, egos or nutty parents (thats almost impossible). The rest will take care of itself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Mama Friar" OMG Remember tho: Kids read these posts so lets try not to be "That guy" Lets stick to ripping teams, not individuals.

Agreed.

No sympathy for anyone who brings it on themselves and I doubt many kids read this. Just change the behavior and it all goes away.

They appear to have made a great choice by attending St Anthonys and now playing for Express. I mean honestly, what’s the issue. Play for the Rebels or play for the Express is that really a debate??? It’s not…for 10 years clubs have tried be on the level of Express and 91 and all have come up short. Igloo and S2S had some decent teams at certain ages, but in totality. It’s 91 and Express and everyone else imho.

Please stop singling out one kid. I do agree that 91 & Express have continued to be the standard for elite talent. Maybe because of their ties to the private schools but they always attract the better players. Other clubs have been hit or miss at certain times but you can't argue with 91 and Express success. They've expanded well and promoted their brand on a national scale. This is all at the A team level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2025 "B" is another fine example. That team went off this year and improved each time we saw them. There is no secret sauce: Get your kid on a team where there are no politics, egos or nutty parents (thats almost impossible). The rest will take care of itself.

Yup, they are solid for a 2nd team. Turtles and 91 appeared have taken a step back. Turtles will blame injuries and 91 isn’t holding tryouts.?! I guess easy to just cut from the current roster. Rebels are solid, but doubt they can help on the recruiting as much as Express can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those are 2 teams out of 100s of teams. This isn’t the norm. What about all the B teams that have 7 kids that attend practice? What about all the B teams where the coach and organization just don’t care that much? Substitute coaches for tournaments because coach didn’t attend. What about the B teams when kids can’t catch and throw? What about the B teams when kids show up at tryouts with football helmets, because they don’t know the difference and they make the team. Is it good to stick around for situations like this. What’s the process with this? I’ve seen this many times over the years.

I just think you or know somebody has made a poor choice regarding club selection. So let’s actually try some facts. 91 and Express have A level 2023 2nd teams, Express has an A level 2nd team at 2024 and 2026. 91 has an A level team at 2027..etc etc. Both clubs have emerging 2nd teams at 2025 and 2029. They are perfect, but are at least consistent. Other clubs either cxld their B teams or use A players to field a 2nd team. Advice, take this, with everything else…with a grain of salt and do your own research.

Jokers will be or are already part of Rebels East with E3 .

Jesters restarted in Massapequa and will draw more kids from the area than TB

If your kid is not already on a team have him train with the school teams and wait for all the teams to do there second call where they tell you what positions they are looking for and you really have a shot.