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It’s a new season!

Let’s start the 2023 discussions in a new thread.
First is good luck to the incoming freshman next year , they will be competing against the last large group of 5th years and there will be 2 less starting spots as it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end.
First is good luck to the incoming freshman next year , they will be competing against the last large group of 5th years and there will be 2 less starting spots as it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First is good luck to the incoming freshman next year , they will be competing against the last large group of 5th years and there will be 2 less starting spots as it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end.


what do you mean it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end?
do college coaches use their preseason games (fall ball and the games now before regular season) to try out new players /plays / develop the team or do they just play to win?
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do college coaches use their preseason games (fall ball and the games now before regular season) to try out new players /plays / develop the team or do they just play to win?
All the above
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First is good luck to the incoming freshman next year , they will be competing against the last large group of 5th years and there will be 2 less starting spots as it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end.


what do you mean it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end?
Womens lacrosse is moving to 9 vs 9 field players so 3 defenders, 3 middies, 3 attack.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
First is good luck to the incoming freshman next year , they will be competing against the last large group of 5th years and there will be 2 less starting spots as it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end.


what do you mean it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end?
Womens lacrosse is moving to 9 vs 9 field players so 3 defenders, 3 middies, 3 attack.


When? Can you provide a link with that info? TIA
Next season, Spring 2024. Was discussed in November at coaches conference in Texas.
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Next season, Spring 2024. Was discussed in November at coaches conference in Texas.
discussing and actually making the move to 10 v 10 are 2 different things. The women's college game is not changing to 10 v 10.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – Preseason

Rank Institution Points (FPV)

1 North Carolina 666 (22)
2 Maryland 634 (2)
3 Boston College 613 (3)
4 Northwestern 599
5 Syracuse 574
6 Stony Brook 536
7 Florida 500
8 Rutgers 439
9 Denver 426
10 Loyola 412
11 Duke 402
12 James Madison 361
13 Virginia 334
14 Stanford 319
15 Princeton 302
16 Notre Dame 300
17 Michigan 249
18 USC 234
19 Jacksonville 198
20 Johns Hopkins 103
21 Yale 98
22 Richmond 88
23 UMass 69
24 Uconn 53
25 Colorado 40
RV Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Temple,
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – Preseason

Rank Institution Points (FPV)

1 East Stroudsburg 613 (19)
2 Adelphi 582 (1)
3 West Chester 544
4 Florida Southern 526
5 Grand Valley 500
6 Le Moyne 498
7 Tampa 482 (2)
8 Uindy 436 (3)
9 Regis (CO) 404
10 Rollins 375
11 Mercy 360
12 Pace 357
13 Wingate 284
14 Seton Hill 277
15 Lynn 262
16 Embry-Riddle 219
17 Assumption 172
18 Mercyhurst 158
19 New Haven 132
20 Roberts Wesleyan 125
21 Bentley 113
22 Colorado Mesa 92
23 Mount Olive 87
24 Davenport 85
25 Saint Leo 77
RV Saint Anselm, Florida Tech, Flagler, Indiana (PA), Limestone
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – Preseason

Rank Institution Points (FPV)

1 Middlebury 924 (36)
2 Tufts 884 (1)
3 TCNJ 835
4 Salisbury 784
5 Gettysburg 776
6 Franklin & Marshall 748
7 Colby 683
8 Washington and Lee 654
9 William Smith 641
10 Ithaca 593
11 Wesleyan 579
12 York 501
13 Cortland 461
14 St. Lawrence 378
15 Bowdoin 370
16 Messiah 320
17 Chicago 315
18 Catholic 288
19 Denison 247
20 Hamilton 227
21 Trinity 188
22 Pomona-Pitzer 157
23 Geneseo 123
24 Haverford 87
25 Roanoke 62
RV Amherst, St. John Fisher, Colorado College, Rhodes, Christopher Newport
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Next season, Spring 2024. Was discussed in November at coaches conference in Texas.
discussing and actually making the move to 10 v 10 are 2 different things. The women's college game is not changing to 10 v 10.

Its essentially a done deal.
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First is good luck to the incoming freshman next year , they will be competing against the last large group of 5th years and there will be 2 less starting spots as it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end.

There is actually one more year of 5th years due to COVID after this season. High School class of 2020 could not have gotten more hosed by the NCAA. Decreasing the game to 10 v 10 next season would be nice icing on their bad luck cake.
I’m just wondering how common this is:
(Please understand that I don’t want to give away too many identifying details)
My daughter is a 23 who is committed to a good school.
The recruiting class have had a few events where they got to meet and socialize. The problem is is that there is one girl amongst the recruits is who likes to stir-the-drama.
She has repeatedly purposefully excluded some of the recruits more than once so it’s not an oversight. (I mean as a parent I would seriously notice and have a talk with my kid) Just plain mean and juvenile. This has left some of these girls confused and hurt. It’s not like these girls are standard shy wallflowers, they are awesome kids!
I was just hoping that this kind of behavior goes away in college or it’s not the big deal it is while in high school. I keep telling my daughter to brush it off and that if the coach ever found out that this girl would be a big target.. Also the older girls would probably relish the opportunity to put this girl in her place. I just want this behavior to be not such a big deal as they get older. They are supposed to be a team.
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I’m just wondering how common this is:
(Please understand that I don’t want to give away too many identifying details)
My daughter is a 23 who is committed to a good school.
The recruiting class have had a few events where they got to meet and socialize. The problem is is that there is one girl amongst the recruits is who likes to stir-the-drama.
She has repeatedly purposefully excluded some of the recruits more than once so it’s not an oversight. (I mean as a parent I would seriously notice and have a talk with my kid) Just plain mean and juvenile. This has left some of these girls confused and hurt. It’s not like these girls are standard shy wallflowers, they are awesome kids!
I was just hoping that this kind of behavior goes away in college or it’s not the big deal it is while in high school. I keep telling my daughter to brush it off and that if the coach ever found out that this girl would be a big target.. Also the older girls would probably relish the opportunity to put this girl in her place. I just want this behavior to be not such a big deal as they get older. They are supposed to be a team.

Toxic classmates can ruin a kids time at school. If all of the other girls are on the same page nip this in the bud . Call it out as nicely as positive shine a light on it now don’t sit back and wait until they are on campus. If one or two girls are left out of plans or a group chat say “ that was a mistake” and add the others to the plan or gc. Don’t allow this one girl to be a negative leader.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m just wondering how common this is:
(Please understand that I don’t want to give away too many identifying details)
My daughter is a 23 who is committed to a good school.
The recruiting class have had a few events where they got to meet and socialize. The problem is is that there is one girl amongst the recruits is who likes to stir-the-drama.
She has repeatedly purposefully excluded some of the recruits more than once so it’s not an oversight. (I mean as a parent I would seriously notice and have a talk with my kid) Just plain mean and juvenile. This has left some of these girls confused and hurt. It’s not like these girls are standard shy wallflowers, they are awesome kids!
I was just hoping that this kind of behavior goes away in college or it’s not the big deal it is while in high school. I keep telling my daughter to brush it off and that if the coach ever found out that this girl would be a big target.. Also the older girls would probably relish the opportunity to put this girl in her place. I just want this behavior to be not such a big deal as they get older. They are supposed to be a team.
The seniors will take care of this behavior quickly!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m just wondering how common this is:
(Please understand that I don’t want to give away too many identifying details)
My daughter is a 23 who is committed to a good school.
The recruiting class have had a few events where they got to meet and socialize. The problem is is that there is one girl amongst the recruits is who likes to stir-the-drama.
She has repeatedly purposefully excluded some of the recruits more than once so it’s not an oversight. (I mean as a parent I would seriously notice and have a talk with my kid) Just plain mean and juvenile. This has left some of these girls confused and hurt. It’s not like these girls are standard shy wallflowers, they are awesome kids!
I was just hoping that this kind of behavior goes away in college or it’s not the big deal it is while in high school. I keep telling my daughter to brush it off and that if the coach ever found out that this girl would be a big target.. Also the older girls would probably relish the opportunity to put this girl in her place. I just want this behavior to be not such a big deal as they get older. They are supposed to be a team.

Toxic classmates can ruin a kids time at school. If all of the other girls are on the same page nip this in the bud . Call it out as nicely as positive shine a light on it now don’t sit back and wait until they are on campus. If one or two girls are left out of plans or a group chat say “ that was a mistake” and add the others to the plan or gc. Don’t allow this one girl to be a negative leader.

It goes the other way as well, sometimes the majority of the team doesn't want to be around a girl because she is the one that is toxic. People should not be forced to spend time outside of "team stuff, practice, games, lift etc..." with nasty people. I would imagine that in elementary school, middle school and HS these kids bullied, put down and tried to exclude kids but once they get to college they are the one that people do not want to associate with. I'm sure the parents that raise these nasty kids will be making phone calls in college as well.
Wonder if it’s USF. Quite a few winners out of the 18 commits. My daughter went there with four of her teammates at a camp. They all came back and quickly crossed that off their list. Said quite a few of the commits acted like they owned the place and had horrible attitudes.
It can’t be USF, they said it was a good school.
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It can’t be USF, they said it was a good school.

ouch
Your daughter will always find a few bad apples in any group. Just like this site deals with the " It can’t be USF, they said it was a good school." commentors on this site.
Should be some fun match-ups this weekend.

I'm predicting UM (#17) will lose to Jax (#19) on Friday, then Florida (#7) on Sunday. Michigan sometimes has trouble getting the offense going--even more so early season.
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Should be some fun match-ups this weekend.

I'm predicting UM (#17) will lose to Jax (#19) on Friday, then Florida (#7) on Sunday. Michigan sometimes has trouble getting the offense going--even more so early season.

May wanna walk back that statement. Michigan offense rolling right now.
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Should be some fun match-ups this weekend.

I'm predicting UM (#17) will lose to Jax (#19) on Friday, then Florida (#7) on Sunday. Michigan sometimes has trouble getting the offense going--even more so early season.

May wanna walk back that statement. Michigan offense rolling right now.

Jacksonville and Michigan are decent teams, not sure either will finish in the Top 20 but I have often been wrong... ;-)

Good for Michigan that they are willing to challenge themselves by playing a Top 10 Team (Florida) on two days rest so early in the season then another quick turnaround and another flight to Stony Brook. Win or lose good for Michigan.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First is good luck to the incoming freshman next year , they will be competing against the last large group of 5th years and there will be 2 less starting spots as it will be 3-3-3 or 6 vs 6 on each end.


Young teams don’t stand a chance. It’s BS playing against teams with 1/2 a dozen 5th years and grad students. Has the game changed forever? Might as well Red Shirt all incoming Freshmen.,
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Should be some fun match-ups this weekend.

I'm predicting UM (#17) will lose to Jax (#19) on Friday, then Florida (#7) on Sunday. Michigan sometimes has trouble getting the offense going--even more so early season.

May wanna walk back that statement. Michigan offense rolling right now.

Jacksonville and Michigan are decent teams, not sure either will finish in the Top 20 but I have often been wrong... ;-)

Good for Michigan that they are willing to challenge themselves by playing a Top 10 Team (Florida) on two days rest so early in the season then another quick turnaround and another flight to Stony Brook. Win or lose good for Michigan.

The Anti- Notre Dame
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Should be some fun match-ups this weekend.

I'm predicting UM (#17) will lose to Jax (#19) on Friday, then Florida (#7) on Sunday. Michigan sometimes has trouble getting the offense going--even more so early season.

May wanna walk back that statement. Michigan offense rolling right now.

Jacksonville and Michigan are decent teams, not sure either will finish in the Top 20 but I have often been wrong... ;-)

Good for Michigan that they are willing to challenge themselves by playing a Top 10 Team (Florida) on two days rest so early in the season then another quick turnaround and another flight to Stony Brook. Win or lose good for Michigan.

The Anti- Notre Dame

More the Anti-Duke than Notre Dame. Weakest out of conference schedule in the ACC.
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be some fun match-ups this weekend.

I'm predicting UM (#17) will lose to Jax (#19) on Friday, then Florida (#7) on Sunday. Michigan sometimes has trouble getting the offense going--even more so early season.

May wanna walk back that statement. Michigan offense rolling right now.

Jacksonville and Michigan are decent teams, not sure either will finish in the Top 20 but I have often been wrong... ;-)

Good for Michigan that they are willing to challenge themselves by playing a Top 10 Team (Florida) on two days rest so early in the season then another quick turnaround and another flight to Stony Brook. Win or lose good for Michigan.

The Anti- Notre Dame

More the Anti-Duke than Notre Dame. Weakest out of conference schedule in the ACC.
Notre Dame has a weaker out of conference schedule. They need it since they will only win 3 or 4 ACC games.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

Keep in mind it was the first game of the season. Yes it was sloppy for both teams. Stanford being ranked 9th in the preseason was a reach they will be a solid west coast team. For Virginia they didn’t play great and still won the game schedule does not get easier for them.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

First off its both teams first games of the season . Second your ignorance of your top 10 teams is obvious. Lets see how much better the top teams did than the game you watched, UNC had 9 turnovers, BC had 17, cuse 11, NW 16, UVA 8, stanford 14. Give it a rest on knocking teams if you obviously have no clue.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.
Rankings are a joke anyway. Jacksonville lost two games and stayed at 19.
Virginia beating Stanford 14-11 is one thing but Virginia only beating UC Davis 16-12 is a whole other thing.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.
"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.
Stanford could beat ND
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.
Virginia is not a top 10 program. UNC, BC, MD, CUSE, NW, FL, STONY BROOK, JMU, DUKE, RUTGERS, LAYOLA are all better programs than UVA. I can go on and name 4 more ACC schools before i get to UVA. They are fringe top 25 at best. Stanford is a perenial underachiever. They get comparable talent to teams like FL and Duke yet they are the worst of the three. I'd argue they are prob 6th in terms of overall talent. Behind UNC BC MD CUSE and NW. Yet they can't even sniff the secound round of the NCAA tourney. Stanford is a "good" lacrosse program in name only because it sure isn't for their lacrosse prowess. Wake me up when they actually do anything.
Come on people. It’s a lax forum. Obviously Stanford is a top school. They don’t bode serve to be ranked top 20. But neither do other teams. Rankings are a joke. Just look at Jacksonville and UVA this year.
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Come on people. It’s a lax forum. Obviously Stanford is a top school. They don’t bode serve to be ranked top 20. But neither do other teams. Rankings are a joke. Just look at Jacksonville and UVA this year.

Jacksonville just had a very close game with #7 Rutgers and UVA is 2-0 beating #9 Stanford and neither team is top 20? Neither is in the top tier of women’s lacrosse but not in the top 20 isn’t accurate either.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.
Virginia is not a top 10 program. UNC, BC, MD, CUSE, NW, FL, STONY BROOK, JMU, DUKE, RUTGERS, LAYOLA are all better programs than UVA. I can go on and name 4 more ACC schools before i get to UVA. They are fringe top 25 at best. Stanford is a perenial underachiever. They get comparable talent to teams like FL and Duke yet they are the worst of the three. I'd argue they are prob 6th in terms of overall talent. Behind UNC BC MD CUSE and NW. Yet they can't even sniff the secound round of the NCAA tourney. Stanford is a "good" lacrosse program in name only because it sure isn't for their lacrosse prowess. Wake me up when they actually do anything.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.
Virginia is not a top 10 program. UNC, BC, MD, CUSE, NW, FL, STONY BROOK, JMU, DUKE, RUTGERS, LAYOLA are all better programs than UVA. I can go on and name 4 more ACC schools before i get to UVA. They are fringe top 25 at best. Stanford is a perenial underachiever. They get comparable talent to teams like FL and Duke yet they are the worst of the three. I'd argue they are prob 6th in terms of overall talent. Behind UNC BC MD CUSE and NW. Yet they can't even sniff the secound round of the NCAA tourney. Stanford is a "good" lacrosse program in name only because it sure isn't for their lacrosse prowess. Wake me up when they actually do anything.

Please enlighten us and name the other 4 ACC schools after UNC, BC, Cuse and Duke that are better than UVA. Thanks
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.
Virginia is not a top 10 program. UNC, BC, MD, CUSE, NW, FL, STONY BROOK, JMU, DUKE, RUTGERS, LAYOLA are all better programs than UVA. I can go on and name 4 more ACC schools before i get to UVA. They are fringe top 25 at best. Stanford is a perenial underachiever. They get comparable talent to teams like FL and Duke yet they are the worst of the three. I'd argue they are prob 6th in terms of overall talent. Behind UNC BC MD CUSE and NW. Yet they can't even sniff the secound round of the NCAA tourney. Stanford is a "good" lacrosse program in name only because it sure isn't for their lacrosse prowess. Wake me up when they actually do anything.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.
Virginia is not a top 10 program. UNC, BC, MD, CUSE, NW, FL, STONY BROOK, JMU, DUKE, RUTGERS, LAYOLA are all better programs than UVA. I can go on and name 4 more ACC schools before i get to UVA. They are fringe top 25 at best. Stanford is a perenial underachiever. They get comparable talent to teams like FL and Duke yet they are the worst of the three. I'd argue they are prob 6th in terms of overall talent. Behind UNC BC MD CUSE and NW. Yet they can't even sniff the secound round of the NCAA tourney. Stanford is a "good" lacrosse program in name only because it sure isn't for their lacrosse prowess. Wake me up when they actually do anything.

Please enlighten us and name the other 4 ACC schools after UNC, BC, Cuse and Duke that are better than UVA. Thanks
More importantly, where or what is LAYOLA? I thought that was an Eric Clapton song...
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.
Virginia is not a top 10 program. UNC, BC, MD, CUSE, NW, FL, STONY BROOK, JMU, DUKE, RUTGERS, LAYOLA are all better programs than UVA. I can go on and name 4 more ACC schools before i get to UVA. They are fringe top 25 at best. Stanford is a perenial underachiever. They get comparable talent to teams like FL and Duke yet they are the worst of the three. I'd argue they are prob 6th in terms of overall talent. Behind UNC BC MD CUSE and NW. Yet they can't even sniff the secound round of the NCAA tourney. Stanford is a "good" lacrosse program in name only because it sure isn't for their lacrosse prowess. Wake me up when they actually do anything.

Based on actual results and "Final Ranking" 2016 - 2022 (excluding 2020) there are 9 programs that "finished" the season ranked in the top 20 every year.

They are:

Every year:

- Maryland
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Northwestern
- Syracuse
- Stony Brook
- Florida
- Princeton (did not compete in 2021)
- Virginia

5 of 6 years:

- JMU
- Notre Dame
- Penn (did not compete in 2021)

4 of 6 years:

- Loyola
- Stanford
- Denver
- USC

3 of 6 years:

- Penn State
- Duke
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

The above is not my opinion, it is based on actual results.

Maybe going forward things will change but based on performance the above are the top programs. Winning a game or beating a particular team on a given year does not define a program, nor does being Ranked 1 or 2 years or being ranked during the season only to drop out at the end of the season.

Some programs may be falling off and others may be up and coming but the above are the Top Programs.

Virginia is one of Top 10 Programs... that doesn't mean they are a Top 10 team every year but they are always Top 20 (only 8 other programs can say that). Maybe not going forward... Time will tell.
The Stanford-obessed-hater is also active on the LaxFan board, posting all the time as watcherinthewoods. He/she says the same things over and over, really vitriolic and over the top critical of the head coach. Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. When I come across people with this much resentment I feel sorry for them.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – February 13

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (1 - 0) 597 (21) 1
2 Maryland (1 - 0) 569 (3) 2
3 Boston College (1 - 0) 557 3
4 Syracuse (1 - 0) 531 5
5 Northwestern (0 - 1) 495 4
6 Stony Brook (0 - 0) 480 6
7 Florida (1 - 0) 464 7
8 Rutgers (1 - 0) 407 8
9 Loyola (0 - 0) 378 10
10 Denver (2 - 0) 377 9
11 Duke (1 - 0) 369 11
12 James Madison (0 - 1) 343 12
13 Virginia (2 - 0) 329 13
14 Notre Dame (1 - 0) 255 16
15 Stanford (0 - 1) 240 14
16 Princeton (0 - 0) 229 15
17 Michigan (1 - 1) 226 17
18 Johns Hopkins (1 - 0) 195 20
19 Jacksonville (0 - 2) 164 19
20 USC (0 - 1) 152 18
21 Richmond (1 - 0) 105 22
22 Yale (0 - 0) 98 21
23 UMass (1 - 0) 59 23
24 Louisville (1 - 1) 55 NR
25 Vanderbilt (1 - 1) 38 NR
RV Uconn, Ohio State, Towson, Temple, Penn State
Division I

Offensive Player of the Week

Meaghan Tyrrell – Syracuse University

Tyrrell played a role in eight of No. 4 Syracuse's 16 goals in its season-opening win over No. 4 Northwestern. She recorded a game-high eight points on two goals and a career-best six assists. After the Wildcats tied the score at 14-14, Tyrrell assisted on a goal and then scored her second of the day to put the game out of reach.

Defensive Player of the Week

Meghan Ball – Rutgers University

Ball helped No. 8 Rutgers to a 9-7 comeback victory over No. 19 Jacksonville. She tallied four caused turnovers and anchored a defense that has allowed seven or fewer goals in three wins against ranked opponents dating back to last season. She currently sits at 98 career caused turnovers.
Division II

Offensive Player of the Week

Caroline Gastonguay – Rollins College

Gastonguay recorded a career-high 10 points in No. 10 Rollins' 13-8 win over Limestone. Her four goal, six assist performance led the way for the Tars offense, while also contributing six ground balls and three caused turnovers in the fight. Rollins is now 2-0 on the season and will face No. 5 Grand Valley State on Friday.

Defensive Player of the Week

Clara Andrews – McKendree University

Andrews registered 18 saves on 27 shots faced in McKendree’s first win against a nationally ranked opponent since 2018 this past Sunday. The Bearcats defeated No. 24 Davenport, 12-9.
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The Stanford-obessed-hater is also active on the LaxFan board, posting all the time as watcherinthewoods. He/she says the same things over and over, really vitriolic and over the top critical of the head coach. Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. When I come across people with this much resentment I feel sorry for them.

Lmao. Appears you are obsessed with watcherinthewoods.842YVv
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.
"Virginia is not a top 10 program. UNC, BC, MD, CUSE, NW, FL, STONY BROOK, JMU, DUKE, RUTGERS, LAYOLA are all better programs than UVA. I can go on and name 4 more ACC schools before i get to UVA. They are fringe top 25 at best. Stanford is a perenial underachiever. They get comparable talent to teams like FL and Duke yet they are the worst of the three. I'd argue they are prob 6th in terms of overall talent. Behind UNC BC MD CUSE and NW. Yet they can't even sniff the secound round of the NCAA tourney. Stanford is a "good" lacrosse program in name only because it sure isn't for their lacrosse prowess. Wake me up when they actually do anything."

Wow how longwinded and clueless. To say UVA is a fringe top 25 at best is just ignorant of any facts, There is an argument to say fringe top 10 but even that would be difficult,
Based on actual results and "Final Ranking" 2016 - 2022 (excluding 2020) there are 9 programs that "finished" the season ranked in the top 20 every year.

They are:

Every year:

- Maryland
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Northwestern
- Syracuse
- Stony Brook
- Florida
- Princeton (did not compete in 2021)
- Virginia

I could be wrong but also believe they hold the longest streak of making the NCAA tournament of any team.
At least have some facts to back up your ridiculous point of view. If your argument is that they are not a top 10 team this year I would say you are probably correct but we will just have to wait and see.
How long to Clemson becomes a top 25 team every year. They totally went in the opposite direction of South Florida. I think South Florida had 19 20,24 commits and 20 2023 commits for next year Clemson has 19 transfers. should be interesting.
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How long to Clemson becomes a top 25 team every year. They totally went in the opposite direction of South Florida. I think South Florida had 19 20,24 commits and 20 2023 commits for next year Clemson has 19 transfers. should be interesting.

Clemson did not challenge themselves with any out of conference games we will have to see them play some conference games. Pittsburgh had a nice first season last year.
On bth the mens and woman’s side, it is hard to watch a game without seeing the transfers get all the limelight. It’s very sad that the kids that were actually recruited are not even getting a chance to play. System is broken and it is an embarrassment.
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)
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How long to Clemson becomes a top 25 team every year. They totally went in the opposite direction of South Florida. I think South Florida had 19 20,24 commits and 20 2023 commits for next year Clemson has 19 transfers. should be interesting.

Top 25? No point.... there is not enough parity in the sport yet. Stick to Top 20.

As for Clemson being Top 20 every year? Don't see it happening any time soon. There just isn't enough talent to go around. There are some really good/great schools with a lot to offer that have been playing women's lacrosse for a long time and very few have been able to compete with the Top 20 on a regular basis. If you can not bring in the talent it is hard to compete with the programs that do. The top programs seem to bring in the top talent year after year that is why they consistently outperform all of the other programs.
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On bth the mens and woman’s side, it is hard to watch a game without seeing the transfers get all the limelight. It’s very sad that the kids that were actually recruited are not even getting a chance to play. System is broken and it is an embarrassment.
have one more year to deal with this. 2024 will be the last of Covid extra year grads/transfers. there are many 21's and 22's that not getting the playing time they normally would have. the good coaches will find a way to get them some time so they are ready when they are needed after 2024.
The issue isn't the covid year, its the transfer portal which makes it way too easy to jump ship and head to another school. Get recruited, think you are replacing a graduating senior and a handful of junior transfers show up. If you want to transfer you should have to sit out a year.
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The issue isn't the covid year, its the transfer portal which makes it way too easy to jump ship and head to another school. Get recruited, think you are replacing a graduating senior and a handful of junior transfers show up. If you want to transfer you should have to sit out a year.

That’s how it always used to be. They stopped that a few years ago. I see the argument on both sides. But it [Censored] regardless. Gotta be honest, I’m surprised USF didn’t go the Clemson, Pittsburgh route.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Someone must’ve been on the debate team in college. 😁
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The issue isn't the covid year, its the transfer portal which makes it way too easy to jump ship and head to another school. Get recruited, think you are replacing a graduating senior and a handful of junior transfers show up. If you want to transfer you should have to sit out a year.

That’s how it always used to be. They stopped that a few years ago. I see the argument on both sides. But it [Censored] regardless. Gotta be honest, I’m surprised USF didn’t go the Clemson, Pittsburgh route.
its a lot easier to get a transfer to come to Clemson or Pitt than USF.
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The issue isn't the covid year, its the transfer portal which makes it way too easy to jump ship and head to another school. Get recruited, think you are replacing a graduating senior and a handful of junior transfers show up. If you want to transfer you should have to sit out a year.

That’s how it always used to be. They stopped that a few years ago. I see the argument on both sides. But it [Censored] regardless. Gotta be honest, I’m surprised USF didn’t go the Clemson, Pittsburgh route.
its a lot easier to get a transfer to come to Clemson or Pitt than USF.

Yeah but that’s not why. I believe McCord said she wanted to build from the ground up
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

What is strange and pathetic is your obsession with Stanford and your foolish attempts to bash them. We all know why you do it, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

Maybe this will help ease the pain: the players who are fortunate enough to receive and accept an offer from a school like Stanford prioritize academics above lacrosse. Obviously the parents have different priorities than you as well. I'm sure the majority of players at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth etc... could have all elected to attend a different school... Maybe they did not receive an offer from Maryland but I am pretty sure that they're okay with that.

Your comments and repeated attempts to knock Stanford idiotic at best.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

The :-) face at the end of the post that you are responding to is apparently not the only thing lost on you.
Watching Clemson play Furman right now with my daughters. I am shocked how bad they are. They can’t even complete a pass in transition down the field. I think our club team would beat Furman. This team was ranked in the 60s last year. Just shows you how the level of play is once you get out of say the top 30.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

What is strange and pathetic is your obsession with Stanford and your foolish attempts to bash them. We all know why you do it, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

Maybe this will help ease the pain: the players who are fortunate enough to receive and accept an offer from a school like Stanford prioritize academics above lacrosse. Obviously the parents have different priorities than you as well. I'm sure the majority of players at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth etc... could have all elected to attend a different school... Maybe they did not receive an offer from Maryland but I am pretty sure that they're okay with that.

Your comments and repeated attempts to knock Stanford idiotic at best.

Have not been bashing Stanford at all other than to say their top 10 ranking in a preseason poll was in my opinion too high . Then you and your Stanford friends got your panties in a bunch and make statements with no facts to back them up. " Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. " Typical Stanford dad post, there are plenty of players who could have gone to Stanford but elected not to , who knows maybe there are actual players who enjoy their families enough that they prefer to stay closer to home. Your kids decision makes sense .
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I’m just wondering how common this is:
(Please understand that I don’t want to give away too many identifying details)
My daughter is a 23 who is committed to a good school.
The recruiting class have had a few events where they got to meet and socialize. The problem is is that there is one girl amongst the recruits is who likes to stir-the-drama.
She has repeatedly purposefully excluded some of the recruits more than once so it’s not an oversight. (I mean as a parent I would seriously notice and have a talk with my kid) Just plain mean and juvenile. This has left some of these girls confused and hurt. It’s not like these girls are standard shy wallflowers, they are awesome kids!
I was just hoping that this kind of behavior goes away in college or it’s not the big deal it is while in high school. I keep telling my daughter to brush it off and that if the coach ever found out that this girl would be a big target.. Also the older girls would probably relish the opportunity to put this girl in her place. I just want this behavior to be not such a big deal as they get older. They are supposed to be a team.

Toxic classmates can ruin a kids time at school. If all of the other girls are on the same page nip this in the bud . Call it out as nicely as positive shine a light on it now don’t sit back and wait until they are on campus. If one or two girls are left out of plans or a group chat say “ that was a mistake” and add the others to the plan or gc. Don’t allow this one girl to be a negative leader.

It goes the other way as well, sometimes the majority of the team doesn't want to be around a girl because she is the one that is toxic. People should not be forced to spend time outside of "team stuff, practice, games, lift etc..." with nasty people. I would imagine that in elementary school, middle school and HS these kids bullied, put down and tried to exclude kids but once they get to college they are the one that people do not want to associate with. I'm sure the parents that raise these nasty kids will be making phone calls in college as well.

By the time they are in college most girls mature and become more confident. The "toxic" girls are the girls that others do not want to be around. They are not left out, they isolate themselves with selfish, obnoxious, dishonest behavior. In short, nobody wants to spend time with them because of the behavior that they have demonstrated. Their teammates make it very clear that they do not enjoy their company but sadly these girls and their parents do not get it.

My advice would be to just let things unfold, most people will come to the same conclusion as to who the toxic girls are. Of course the toxic ones and their parents will never see it or maybe they just will not admit it to themselves. Just be prepared for the phone calls....
Thursday night games...

Army vs Jacksonville

Northwestern vs Notre Dame


Going with both Army and Northwestern winning.
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

What is strange and pathetic is your obsession with Stanford and your foolish attempts to bash them. We all know why you do it, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

Maybe this will help ease the pain: the players who are fortunate enough to receive and accept an offer from a school like Stanford prioritize academics above lacrosse. Obviously the parents have different priorities than you as well. I'm sure the majority of players at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth etc... could have all elected to attend a different school... Maybe they did not receive an offer from Maryland but I am pretty sure that they're okay with that.

Your comments and repeated attempts to knock Stanford idiotic at best.

Have not been bashing Stanford at all other than to say their top 10 ranking in a preseason poll was in my opinion too high . Then you and your Stanford friends got your panties in a bunch and make statements with no facts to back them up. " Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. " Typical Stanford dad post, there are plenty of players who could have gone to Stanford but elected not to , who knows maybe there are actual players who enjoy their families enough that they prefer to stay closer to home. Your kids decision makes sense .

Yes, you are correct. It does make a lot of sense to pick a school ranked 3 in the country over one ranked 20-50. It also makes sense to pick a school where you will play on a top 20 team who wins their conference every year while playing lacrosse In beautiful weather for the most part. Come to think about it, a degree from Stanford turns heads. It’s just not the same as graduating from BC, NC, MD, Cuse. Those schools are ranked higher in lacrosse yes, but you trade off the academics for that. There is no future in lacrosse. It’s a fun sport to play for 4 years, but then life goes on. There is really only one school that is perennially ranked a top lax and academic school and that is Northwestern. Everyone else needs to consider the pros and cons of choosing a top academic good lacrosse vs. good academic great lacrosse. If a girl has these choices she is very lucky. But also remember you do need the grades to even get the opportunity to consider choosing a school like Stanford, Duke, Princeton, Penn where you get top 20 lacrosse paired with elite academics.
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

What is strange and pathetic is your obsession with Stanford and your foolish attempts to bash them. We all know why you do it, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

Maybe this will help ease the pain: the players who are fortunate enough to receive and accept an offer from a school like Stanford prioritize academics above lacrosse. Obviously the parents have different priorities than you as well. I'm sure the majority of players at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth etc... could have all elected to attend a different school... Maybe they did not receive an offer from Maryland but I am pretty sure that they're okay with that.

Your comments and repeated attempts to knock Stanford idiotic at best.

Have not been bashing Stanford at all other than to say their top 10 ranking in a preseason poll was in my opinion too high . Then you and your Stanford friends got your panties in a bunch and make statements with no facts to back them up. " Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. " Typical Stanford dad post, there are plenty of players who could have gone to Stanford but elected not to , who knows maybe there are actual players who enjoy their families enough that they prefer to stay closer to home. Your kids decision makes sense .

Yes, you are correct. It does make a lot of sense to pick a school ranked 3 in the country over one ranked 20-50. It also makes sense to pick a school where you will play on a top 20 team who wins their conference every year while playing lacrosse In beautiful weather for the most part. Come to think about it, a degree from Stanford turns heads. It’s just not the same as graduating from BC, NC, MD, Cuse. Those schools are ranked higher in lacrosse yes, but you trade off the academics for that. There is no future in lacrosse. It’s a fun sport to play for 4 years, but then life goes on. There is really only one school that is perennially ranked a top lax and academic school and that is Northwestern. Everyone else needs to consider the pros and cons of choosing a top academic good lacrosse vs. good academic great lacrosse. If a girl has these choices she is very lucky. But also remember you do need the grades to even get the opportunity to consider choosing a school like Stanford, Duke, Princeton, Penn where you get top 20 lacrosse paired with elite academics.


Kinda take it further, what’s the difference between playing on a team that wins say a conference like the big south and a top 10 team. Probably only one more game a year. They get knocked out after two games instead of one. 🤷🏻‍♂️. I agree. Go for the best school. But, that doesn’t mean Stanford is overrated as a lacrosse program, which it is.
Should say that doesn't mean Stanford isn't overrated as a lacrosse program. Which it is.
Do not lump BC in with schools like MD; they are not on the same level, academically-speaking. you want to prove your point on Stanford, go ahead, but don’t make broad generalizations on other institutions. If you want to hold Stanford apart from other schools, you should afford BC the same respect.
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Do not lump BC in with schools like MD; they are not on the same level, academically-speaking. you want to prove your point on Stanford, go ahead, but don’t make broad generalizations on other institutions. If you want to hold Stanford apart from other schools, you should afford BC the same respect.

Well, Boston College is ranked closer to The University of Maryland than it is to Stanford in terms of academic ranking.
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Should say that doesn't mean Stanford isn't overrated as a lacrosse program. Which it is.

Overrated according to who? You?
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

What is strange and pathetic is your obsession with Stanford and your foolish attempts to bash them. We all know why you do it, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

Maybe this will help ease the pain: the players who are fortunate enough to receive and accept an offer from a school like Stanford prioritize academics above lacrosse. Obviously the parents have different priorities than you as well. I'm sure the majority of players at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth etc... could have all elected to attend a different school... Maybe they did not receive an offer from Maryland but I am pretty sure that they're okay with that.

Your comments and repeated attempts to knock Stanford idiotic at best.

Have not been bashing Stanford at all other than to say their top 10 ranking in a preseason poll was in my opinion too high . Then you and your Stanford friends got your panties in a bunch and make statements with no facts to back them up. " Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. " Typical Stanford dad post, there are plenty of players who could have gone to Stanford but elected not to , who knows maybe there are actual players who enjoy their families enough that they prefer to stay closer to home. Your kids decision makes sense .

Yes, you are correct. It does make a lot of sense to pick a school ranked 3 in the country over one ranked 20-50. It also makes sense to pick a school where you will play on a top 20 team who wins their conference every year while playing lacrosse In beautiful weather for the most part. Come to think about it, a degree from Stanford turns heads. It’s just not the same as graduating from BC, NC, MD, Cuse. Those schools are ranked higher in lacrosse yes, but you trade off the academics for that. There is no future in lacrosse. It’s a fun sport to play for 4 years, but then life goes on. There is really only one school that is perennially ranked a top lax and academic school and that is Northwestern. Everyone else needs to consider the pros and cons of choosing a top academic good lacrosse vs. good academic great lacrosse. If a girl has these choices she is very lucky. But also remember you do need the grades to even get the opportunity to consider choosing a school like Stanford, Duke, Princeton, Penn where you get top 20 lacrosse paired with elite academics.

There is a fit for everyone, many great opportunities for our daughters.

Schools that combine Top 20 academic & Top 20 Lacrosse:

Lacrosse Ranking below...

University - year.....2015.......2016.......2017.....2018.....2019....2021.....2022

Northwestern:..........6.............12..........13............8...........4.........4...........4

Princeton:................9.............18..........7..........10.........6.........DNP..........9

Penn:......................13............9...........12.........12........14........DNP........ NR

Notre Dame:...........14............7...........18.........NR.......9............6...........17

Stanford:................16...........10..........NR........16........NR.........16..........19

Duke:.......................4............11.........NR.........NR........NR........8...........13

Hopkins:.................17...........16..........NR.........NR.........NR......17..........20

Looks like even when Duke, Stanford, Hopkins, Notre Dame are not ranked in the Top 20 they are pretty competitive and close. Maybe "others receiving votes"...

Average Ranking - used a rank of 25 for the years not ranked...

Northwestern - 7
Princeton - 9
Penn - 14
Notre Dame - 13
Stanford - 18
Duke - 15
Hopkins - 20

Obviously there are other Top 20 academic schools as well as Top 20 lacrosse schools but the ones listed above seem to be the ones that are most consistently Top 20 Lacrosse that are also Top 20 academic.

If Stanford is so overrated, please tell us the schools / lacrosse programs that Stanford is "overrated" ahead of.

Sorry, just don't see it. Stanford is a great academic school with a very good lacrosse program. What lacrosse programs does Stanford get ranked ahead of that they should not be ranked ahead of?
Lmao. People are funny. Isn’t all message boards about opinions? That’s how this conversation started. Someone stated they were overrated. Some other guy got upset and took it personal and said they weren’t. Then it spidered off into different areas about what school is better, etc. In my opinion they are overrated as a top 20 program. I don’t think they are top 20. Sorry to upset you with that outlandish take.
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Do not lump BC in with schools like MD; they are not on the same level, academically-speaking. you want to prove your point on Stanford, go ahead, but don’t make broad generalizations on other institutions. If you want to hold Stanford apart from other schools, you should afford BC the same respect.

Well, Boston College is ranked closer to The University of Maryland than it is to Stanford in terms of academic ranking.

BC is ranked 36, with a 20% acceptance rate. This is in no way elite. Hek, Florida and NC much higher! And yes, closer to MD. There are many other very good lacrosse schools ranked way ahead. But yes, if your daughter (you) is chasing that championship ring, and don’t have stellar grades, it’s a great choice. Not sure what the obsession with Stanford is. They will finish around a 10-15 ranked team every year. I don’t think anyone is disputing that. What you get by going to a school like that is an elite degree and top 20 lacrosse. If you want the elite degree and a chance at a natty, you go to Northwestern.
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Lmao. People are funny. Isn’t all message boards about opinions? That’s how this conversation started. Someone stated they were overrated. Some other guy got upset and took it personal and said they weren’t. Then it spidered off into different areas about what school is better, etc. In my opinion they are overrated as a top 20 program. I don’t think they are top 20. Sorry to upset you with that outlandish take.

Pretty sure there is a saying about opinions.

There are actual results and some facts as well.

In recent years Stanford has an average "final ranking" which is based on their performance of 18 or so.

Please tell us which programs in your opinion does Stanford get more recognition than. We all know the usual suspects that finish the year ranked in the Top 20 most years:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Penn
James Madison
Notre Dame
Loyola
Denver
USC
Duke
Hopkins

Besides the above, what programs is Stanford "overrated" above? Nobody said Stanford is a Top 5 or Top 10 or even Top 15 Program.
Speaking of Northwestern. I watched the SCANE TRAIN last night. What a special and dynamic player. So great to see her back in full force. If she keeps playing like that, she will be the clear favorite for the Tewaaraton. Nobody close.
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Lmao. People are funny. Isn’t all message boards about opinions? That’s how this conversation started. Someone stated they were overrated. Some other guy got upset and took it personal and said they weren’t. Then it spidered off into different areas about what school is better, etc. In my opinion they are overrated as a top 20 program. I don’t think they are top 20. Sorry to upset you with that outlandish take.

Pretty sure there is a saying about opinions.

There are actual results and some facts as well.

In recent years Stanford has an average "final ranking" which is based on their performance of 18 or so.

Please tell us which programs in your opinion does Stanford get more recognition than. We all know the usual suspects that finish the year ranked in the Top 20 most years:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Penn
James Madison
Notre Dame
Loyola
Denver
USC
Duke
Hopkins

Besides the above, what programs is Stanford "overrated" above? Nobody said Stanford is a Top 5 or Top 10 or even Top 15 Program.


Stanford would be on Par starting with Penn and down on that list.
Scane better than North
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Lmao. People are funny. Isn’t all message boards about opinions? That’s how this conversation started. Someone stated they were overrated. Some other guy got upset and took it personal and said they weren’t. Then it spidered off into different areas about what school is better, etc. In my opinion they are overrated as a top 20 program. I don’t think they are top 20. Sorry to upset you with that outlandish take.

Pretty sure there is a saying about opinions.

There are actual results and some facts as well.

In recent years Stanford has an average "final ranking" which is based on their performance of 18 or so.

Please tell us which programs in your opinion does Stanford get more recognition than. We all know the usual suspects that finish the year ranked in the Top 20 most years:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Penn
James Madison
Notre Dame
Loyola
Denver
USC
Duke
Hopkins

Besides the above, what programs is Stanford "overrated" above? Nobody said Stanford is a Top 5 or Top 10 or even Top 15 Program.

Hmm. This was about the ranking system. Nobody had Stanford as a top 15 program. We’ll except one of the two organizations that does the rankings. Inside Lacrosse had them at 15 which started this whole topic. I could care less about recent years. The conversation was about this year. This year they are overrated. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
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Should be some fun match-ups this weekend.

I'm predicting UM (#17) will lose to Jax (#19) on Friday, then Florida (#7) on Sunday. Michigan sometimes has trouble getting the offense going--even more so early season.

May wanna walk back that statement. Michigan offense rolling right now.

Jacksonville and Michigan are decent teams, not sure either will finish in the Top 20 but I have often been wrong... ;-)

Good for Michigan that they are willing to challenge themselves by playing a Top 10 Team (Florida) on two days rest so early in the season then another quick turnaround and another flight to Stony Brook. Win or lose good for Michigan.

Good win for Michigan vs Jacksonville. What I didn't expect was an immediate drop off a cliff for Jacksonville with the new HC change. The previous few years they had a fun, fast offense putting up 40+ shots in a game. That appears to have gone down hill, along with their shooting accuracy. The loss to Army last night hurts. It appears Sarah Elms is the bulk of their offense. Definitely NOT a Top 20 team.

I'm not Stony Brook fan, but I'm pulling for them to beat Michigan today. Jill Smith (Michigan) has had a great start to the season. The only downside is the game being shown on FLOSPORTS, which [Censored]. Guess those of us poor must follow the box score updates.
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Speaking of Northwestern. I watched the SCANE TRAIN last night. What a special and dynamic player. So great to see her back in full force. If she keeps playing like that, she will be the clear favorite for the Tewaaraton. Nobody close.
she was outscoring ND 10-8 when they pulled her for the night. ND's D had no answers, even NW's backups where scoring against the ND starters. Not impressed with ND, take away #3 and they are not even a top 20 team.
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Speaking of Northwestern. I watched the SCANE TRAIN last night. What a special and dynamic player. So great to see her back in full force. If she keeps playing like that, she will be the clear favorite for the Tewaaraton. Nobody close.


Yep. Will break the goals in a season record that lasted a season.
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Scane better than North

FACTS. But I hated how North acted on the field so I am biassed. I will say, if North acted in college how she acted in the AU, she would have even more fans.
Yep, Jacksonville was another one of those mentioned last week as overrated in THIS YEAR'S poll along with Stanford and UVA.
Those rankings are silly and give favor to state schools; even with that, MD is ranked #55.
I wasn’t saying BC is Stanford, by any stretch; I’m saying it’s a way better school than MD and Cuse…not even close. UNC, Wake, USC, I’m fine w those comparisons
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Those rankings are silly and give favor to state schools; even with that, MD is ranked #55.
I wasn’t saying BC is Stanford, by any stretch; I’m saying it’s a way better school than MD and Cuse…not even close. UNC, Wake, USC, I’m fine w those comparisons

Nonsense.
So is MD that bad or Cuse that good?
What happened to Maryland??
Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?
Cuse completely controlled that game today
Cuse is really good. Their offense is elite and the best in the country by a good margin. MD was already weak offensively going into this year without Cordingly. Their strength was defense. So if that defense is getting carved like this by Cuse and they can't score.. then they are not going to be good. Big trouble
[quote=Anonymous]Scane better than North[/quote

Not even close rewatch that game ND had a mid covering her most of the game and they weren’t even sending a slide. ND has no fight that coach needs to go. That boned said Scane is the best collegeoffensive player this year.
Also showed that elite goalies need their defense playing well to help make a difference
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Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!
Florida is in trouble too. Future not looking good either.
Saw this in SU vs NW. the SU draw stick is illegal as well. The traditional stringing is huge gaps. Rule says golf balll with light pressure can’t push through it.

Time to enforce rules in women’s lax.
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

What is strange and pathetic is your obsession with Stanford and your foolish attempts to bash them. We all know why you do it, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

Maybe this will help ease the pain: the players who are fortunate enough to receive and accept an offer from a school like Stanford prioritize academics above lacrosse. Obviously the parents have different priorities than you as well. I'm sure the majority of players at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth etc... could have all elected to attend a different school... Maybe they did not receive an offer from Maryland but I am pretty sure that they're okay with that.

Your comments and repeated attempts to knock Stanford idiotic at best.

Have not been bashing Stanford at all other than to say their top 10 ranking in a preseason poll was in my opinion too high . Then you and your Stanford friends got your panties in a bunch and make statements with no facts to back them up. " Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. " Typical Stanford dad post, there are plenty of players who could have gone to Stanford but elected not to , who knows maybe there are actual players who enjoy their families enough that they prefer to stay closer to home. Your kids decision makes sense .

Yes, you are correct. It does make a lot of sense to pick a school ranked 3 in the country over one ranked 20-50. It also makes sense to pick a school where you will play on a top 20 team who wins their conference every year while playing lacrosse In beautiful weather for the most part. Come to think about it, a degree from Stanford turns heads. It’s just not the same as graduating from BC, NC, MD, Cuse. Those schools are ranked higher in lacrosse yes, but you trade off the academics for that. There is no future in lacrosse. It’s a fun sport to play for 4 years, but then life goes on. There is really only one school that is perennially ranked a top lax and academic school and that is Northwestern. Everyone else needs to consider the pros and cons of choosing a top academic good lacrosse vs. good academic great lacrosse. If a girl has these choices she is very lucky. But also remember you do need the grades to even get the opportunity to consider choosing a school like Stanford, Duke, Princeton, Penn where you get top 20 lacrosse paired with elite academics.

The Stanford cheerleaders crack me up. Honestly cannot bash the overall academics at Stanford but you also have to consider what your child wants to do in life. I have seen it first hand and that a degree from an Ivy or Stanford is not always a golden ticket like you would have us believe. If your daughter wants to go on to many careers that require a post graduate degree ie Law School or Medical School etc you would be better off getiing a 4.0 at Maryland than a 3.0 at Stanford. In the end its not about picking a school that has the best academics its about picking a school your child will be successful at both academically and more important a school they will be happy at.
How ‘bout them CATS!!
Wow. Just had a chance to get caught up on games. SU looked really good. I think a clear number one in country.

However many questionable calls in this game and fouls. Refs lost control much like the ND game a few years ago if memory isn’t wrong. SU 12 the biggest flopper I have ever seen. But scary part is she was able to get two yellow cards on MD. Be nice if they could add the to review or challenge in future. Yellow cards in women’s lax are a killer. Need to be correct calls. It is a
Lax game, it theater class.
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"Conference champs, rings every year, top 3 academic school, sunny Cali. LOL haters! Pretty sure what you say can also be said for Duke, Virginia and ND. Stanford on par with them. None of them winning the natty, but have lots to offer outside lax. Everyone wants to be a critic!"

Sorry but not on par with any of those teams when speaking about womens lacrosse.

Why not? What have Notre Dame and Duke or even Virginia done in the past 5 or 6 years?

These are the facts Stanford is something like 1-7 when playing ACC teams over the last 5-6 years. They have gone 0-4 against UVA being outscored 61-38 ( Did the math in my head so may be wrong but close) , Saying they are on par with teams that when they play against them have a winning percentage of 14 % seems like a bit of a stetch.

Boston College is 2 - 14 vs Maryland and 6 - 21 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse is 2 - 23 vs Maryland and 6 - 11 vs North Carolina...

Syracuse and Boston College are not on par with the top programs...

:-)


Your pathetic attempt to go back to wooden sticks is as transparent as to who you are . Again it was in response to the poster specifically stating the past 5-6 years . If you want to go back that far than one of those teams you put Stanford on the same level as has won as many national championships as UNC and BC . So strange how you skipped the past 5-6 year comment in your other Stanford buddies post .

What is strange and pathetic is your obsession with Stanford and your foolish attempts to bash them. We all know why you do it, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

Maybe this will help ease the pain: the players who are fortunate enough to receive and accept an offer from a school like Stanford prioritize academics above lacrosse. Obviously the parents have different priorities than you as well. I'm sure the majority of players at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth etc... could have all elected to attend a different school... Maybe they did not receive an offer from Maryland but I am pretty sure that they're okay with that.

Your comments and repeated attempts to knock Stanford idiotic at best.

Have not been bashing Stanford at all other than to say their top 10 ranking in a preseason poll was in my opinion too high . Then you and your Stanford friends got your panties in a bunch and make statements with no facts to back them up. " Please give it a rest, as 99.9% of kids who had the top grades and athletics to play at Stanford would jump at the chance. " Typical Stanford dad post, there are plenty of players who could have gone to Stanford but elected not to , who knows maybe there are actual players who enjoy their families enough that they prefer to stay closer to home. Your kids decision makes sense .

Yes, you are correct. It does make a lot of sense to pick a school ranked 3 in the country over one ranked 20-50. It also makes sense to pick a school where you will play on a top 20 team who wins their conference every year while playing lacrosse In beautiful weather for the most part. Come to think about it, a degree from Stanford turns heads. It’s just not the same as graduating from BC, NC, MD, Cuse. Those schools are ranked higher in lacrosse yes, but you trade off the academics for that. There is no future in lacrosse. It’s a fun sport to play for 4 years, but then life goes on. There is really only one school that is perennially ranked a top lax and academic school and that is Northwestern. Everyone else needs to consider the pros and cons of choosing a top academic good lacrosse vs. good academic great lacrosse. If a girl has these choices she is very lucky. But also remember you do need the grades to even get the opportunity to consider choosing a school like Stanford, Duke, Princeton, Penn where you get top 20 lacrosse paired with elite academics.

The Stanford cheerleaders crack me up. Honestly cannot bash the overall academics at Stanford but you also have to consider what your child wants to do in life. I have seen it first hand and that a degree from an Ivy or Stanford is not always a golden ticket like you would have us believe. If your daughter wants to go on to many careers that require a post graduate degree ie Law School or Medical School etc you would be better off getiing a 4.0 at Maryland than a 3.0 at Stanford. In the end its not about picking a school that has the best academics its about picking a school your child will be successful at both academically and more important a school they will be happy at.

Keep telling yourself that...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But get your facts straight. Only one bench player scored against ND and that was one goal. Scane was not faceguarded nor marked up closely by a middie and that was a problem. Team has a lot of good players , not just #3
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Saw this in SU vs NW. the SU draw stick is illegal as well. The traditional stringing is huge gaps. Rule says golf balll with light pressure can’t push through it.

Time to enforce rules in women’s lax.
MD called a stick check from get go & it was good
Nice try though
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Saw this in SU vs NW. the SU draw stick is illegal as well. The traditional stringing is huge gaps. Rule says golf balll with light pressure can’t push through it.

Time to enforce rules in women’s lax.
MD called a stick check from get go & it was good
Nice try though

Yea, like BC playing like a bunch of thugs. Way too much aggressive pushing that is not called. A miracle nobody was seriously hurt. Over the top, and they do it because they get away with it.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But get your facts straight. Only one bench player scored against ND and that was one goal. Scane was not faceguarded nor marked up closely by a middie and that was a problem. Team has a lot of good players , not just #3
Sorry, all a good team will do is shut down #3 and win the game. Their other players are not good enough this year to compete with UNC, SU, BC, UVA, NW and Duke or maybe they are good enough and its the coaching. The best they have ever done with this coach is the quarterfinals 1 time. ND will go 10-6 or 9-7 at best and make their usual 1st round exit in the tournament.
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Saw this in SU vs NW. the SU draw stick is illegal as well. The traditional stringing is huge gaps. Rule says golf balll with light pressure can’t push through it.

Time to enforce rules in women’s lax.
MD called a stick check from get go & it was good
Nice try though

Yea, like BC playing like a bunch of thugs. Way too much aggressive pushing that is not called. A miracle nobody was seriously hurt. Over the top, and they do it because they get away with it.
I believe Cuse had many yellow cards, so they were called, can't use that as an excuse either. MD did not deserve to be #2 in rankings from the get go - just shows how ridiculous the rankings are to begin with. Cuse is healthy this year - hopefully they continue to stay healthy. Does Cuse play aggressive, yes...to call BC "thugs" is pretty pathetic.
All this Stanford talk started with the 20 and 21 committs parents, annointing them as the greatest future team. Go back and look. It wont end till 3 and half more years till the last of them graduate.
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All this Stanford talk started with the 20 and 21 committs parents, annointing them as the greatest future team. Go back and look. It wont end till 3 and half more years till the last of them graduate.


Talent means nothing without coaching. The consistent level of mediocrity stanford has shown is almost impressive.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – February 20



No. 1 North Carolina earned 20 first-place votes in Week 2 of the ILWomen/IWLCA Division I poll, while No. 2 Syracuse earned five.

Syracuse jumped two spots from Week 1 to the second spot after a convincing 20-11 victory over Maryland and Northwestern jumped into the third spot after defeating Boston College 15-14 on Sunday.

Boston College and Stony Brook round out the top five, respectively, while Maryland fell to the sixth spot.

No. 25 Penn State earned its first ranking of the 2023 season, starting the season with two convincing wins over Bucknell and Drexel.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (3 - 0) 619 (20) 1
2 Syracuse (2 - 0) 603 (5) 4
3 Northwestern (2 - 1) 573 5
4 Boston College (2 - 1) 540 3
5 Stony Brook (1 - 0) 518 6
6 Maryland (1 - 1) 501 2
7 Florida (1 - 1) 459 7
8 Loyola (1 - 0) 430 9
9 Rutgers (3 - 0) 427 8
10 Duke (3 - 0) 377 11
11 Denver (3 - 0) 352 10
12 Virginia (3 - 0) 350 13
13 James Madison (2 - 1) 347 12
14 Notre Dame (2 - 1) 295 14
15 Stanford (1 - 1) 235 15
16 Johns Hopkins (1 - 1) 205 18
17 Princeton (0 - 1) 183 16
18 Michigan (2 - 2) 180 17
19 Richmond (3 - 0) 156 21
19 USC (1 - 1) 156 20
21 Yale (1 - 0) 144 22
22 UMass (1 - 1) 87 23
23 Louisville (2 - 1) 72 24
24 Jacksonville (0 - 3) 62 19
25 Penn State (2 - 0) 36 NR
RV Navy, Army, Penn, Hofstra, Vanderbilt
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – February 20



East Stroudsburg remains atop the Division II poll, as the Warriors await their first competition of the 2023 season. Adelphi, West Chester and Florida Southern each stayed put in the following three spots, respectively, while Le Moyne moved up one spot to the No. 5 position.

No. 10 Grand Valley dropped out of the top five after falling to No. 9 Rollins, 15-11 on Saturday, while No. 17 Flagler earned its first ranking of 2023, notching a win over No. 19 Embry-Riddle and nearly upsetting Grand Valley last week, losing 14-12.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 East Stroudsburg (0 - 0) 670 (23) 1
2 Adelphi (0 - 0) 645 (1) 2
3 West Chester (0 - 0) 598 3
4 Florida Southern (2 - 0) 594 4
5 Le Moyne (0 - 0) 567 6
6 Tampa (3 - 0) 556 (1) 7
7 UIndy (3 - 0) 530 (2) 8
8 Regis (CO) (1 - 0) 481 9
9 Rollins (3 - 0) 477 10
10 Grand Valley (1 - 1) 436 5
11 Mercy (1 - 0) 397 11
12 Wingate (2 - 1) 387 13
13 Pace (0 - 0) 376 12
14 Lynn (2 - 1) 282 15
15 Seton Hill (0 - 0) 279 14
16 Assumption (0 - 0) 236 17
17 Flagler (2 - 1) 221 NR
18 New Haven (0 - 0) 183 19
19 Embry-Riddle (1 - 1) 161 16
20 Mercyhurst (0 - 0) 159 18
21 Saint Leo (2 - 0) 135 25
22 Roberts Wesleyan (1 - 0) 133 20
23 Bentley (0 - 0) 126 21
24 Colorado Mesa (0 - 0) 72 22
25 Mount Olive (0 - 2) 38 23
RV Limestone, Lenoir-Rhyne, Lee, UVA Wise, Young Harris
“4. Stanford is not a top 10 , not sure why they keep trying to sneak the west coast teams up the list , lost their best offensive player and essentially beat no one last year how do they jump over Denver, UVA , Jacksonville and even Richmond , all teams who beat them last year.”

The original post in response to Nike /US lacrosse preseason ranking that got all the Stanford dads panties in a bunch. Really was not that bad a statement , maybe head over to the Forbes college rankings forum , you guys are killing it over there .
Yep. Highly overrated #24 Jacksonville beat “properly rated” 🙄 Stanford 12-10. Both teams have no business being in the 25. Sorry for the Stanford dads. But the above poster is correct. You got your panties in a bunch. Take solace in the fact that your daughter goes to a great school and they have good lacrosse. If my daughter had the opportunity to go to that school in two years I would jump at the chance. Doesn’t mean they aren’t overrated by Inside Lax and US Lax. They are!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Highly overrated #24 Jacksonville beat “properly rated” 🙄 Stanford 12-10. Both teams have no business being in the 25. Sorry for the Stanford dads. But the above poster is correct. You got your panties in a bunch. Take solace in the fact that your daughter goes to a great school and they have good lacrosse. If my daughter had the opportunity to go to that school in two years I would jump at the chance. Doesn’t mean they aren’t overrated by Inside Lax and US Lax. They are!

When you say that Stanford and Jacksonville don’t belong in the Top 25 that’s fine but you’d have to post who does belong that’s not currently listed in the top 25.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Highly overrated #24 Jacksonville beat “properly rated” 🙄 Stanford 12-10. Both teams have no business being in the 25. Sorry for the Stanford dads. But the above poster is correct. You got your panties in a bunch. Take solace in the fact that your daughter goes to a great school and they have good lacrosse. If my daughter had the opportunity to go to that school in two years I would jump at the chance. Doesn’t mean they aren’t overrated by Inside Lax and US Lax. They are!

When you say that Stanford and Jacksonville don’t belong in the Top 25 that’s fine but you’d have to post who does belong that’s not currently listed in the top 25.

Good luck with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...

No response to what? What is the response supposed to be to?
Maryland played Drexel and only won by 6 (keeping her key players in), Cuse played Binghamton and won by 7 and pulled her starters in the 4th quarter (where Binghamton scored 7 goals). Everyone wants to put MD on a pedestal that they don't always belong on.
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Izzy Scane – Northwestern University

Scane tied a program-high of 10 goals in the No. 5 Wildcats' 18-14 season-opening victory over No. 14 Notre Dame. Scane tallied eight of her 10 goals in the second half and added two assists, two ground balls and a caused turnover. Northwestern shifted up to No. 3 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll this week.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Meaghan Tyrrell – Syracuse University

Tyrrell played a role in 11 of No. 4 Syracuse's 20 goals in a win over No. 2 Maryland. She scored three goals and had two assists in the first 12 minutes as the Orange took a 6-2 lead. Five of her points came in the second half as Syracuse pulled away for its second consecutive win against a top-five opponent. Syracuse shifted up to the No. 2 slot in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll this week.

Defensive Player of the Week

Meghan Ball – Rutgers University

Ball set program records for career caused turnovers (111) and career draw controls (230) with eight draw controls and six caused turnovers in a 15-8 win over Georgetown. Ball tied a single-game program record for caused turnovers in a game and set a personal best with seven in the win over Monmouth. Ball has now caused three or more turnovers in 19 career games.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Abigail Cawley – Rollins College

The senior attacker recorded career-highs in goals (4), assists (5), and points (9) to lead the No. 9 Tars to a 15-11 win over No. 5 Grand Valley State. Rollins is now 3-0 on the season.

Defensive Player of the Week

Megan Biase – Wingate University

Despite the No. 12 Bulldogs coming up just short of their biggest win in program history against No. 4 Florida Southern, Biase piled up a career-high 17 saves while adding six ground balls against the Mocs.
DIVISION III


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Parker Moore – Brevard College

Moore’s single-game notch of eight goals (one shy of program record) and three assists in the 19-18 season-opening win against Randolph was marked as a top-five performance in program history, tying Brevard’s single-game record of 11. Moore scored the game-winning free-position shot with 1:31 left to play to earn the victory for the Tornados.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Addie Pastor – Albion College

The senior midfielder set a program record for most goals and points in a single game for the Britons, scoring 13 goals and assisting on three to record 16 total points in the 23-3 win over Hanover.

Defensive Player of the Week

Kaitlyn Hunsinger – Salisbury University

The senior goalkeeper bolstered the Sea Gulls defense that held No. 18 Catholic to just five goals. Hunsinger tallied a career-high nine saves and allowed only four goals in her 56 minutes of play.
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Yep. Highly overrated #24 Jacksonville beat “properly rated” 🙄 Stanford 12-10. Both teams have no business being in the 25. Sorry for the Stanford dads. But the above poster is correct. You got your panties in a bunch. Take solace in the fact that your daughter goes to a great school and they have good lacrosse. If my daughter had the opportunity to go to that school in two years I would jump at the chance. Doesn’t mean they aren’t overrated by Inside Lax and US Lax. They are!

When you say that Stanford and Jacksonville don’t belong in the Top 25 that’s fine but you’d have to post who does belong that’s not currently listed in the top 25.

Not original poster but, definitely Army and maybe UPenn , Hofstra and not sure if Loyola is in too 25 but them as well. Stanford great at academics mediocre at lacrosse. If they weren’t out west wouldn’t even be in the conversation. Those are the facts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...

No response to what? What is the response supposed to be to?
Maryland played Drexel and only won by 6 (keeping her key players in), Cuse played Binghamton and won by 7 and pulled her starters in the 4th quarter (where Binghamton scored 7 goals). Everyone wants to put MD on a pedestal that they don't always belong on.

Actually, Maryland does belong on a pedestal. One play, one game, one season does not make a program. Maryland is by far the best women's lacrosse program in the history of the sport. Are they the best this year? Who knows, as the post above says "time will tell" and "that's why they play the games".

One thing is very obvious on this forum, way too many post originate from a place of jealousy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Highly overrated #24 Jacksonville beat “properly rated” 🙄 Stanford 12-10. Both teams have no business being in the 25. Sorry for the Stanford dads. But the above poster is correct. You got your panties in a bunch. Take solace in the fact that your daughter goes to a great school and they have good lacrosse. If my daughter had the opportunity to go to that school in two years I would jump at the chance. Doesn’t mean they aren’t overrated by Inside Lax and US Lax. They are!

When you say that Stanford and Jacksonville don’t belong in the Top 25 that’s fine but you’d have to post who does belong that’s not currently listed in the top 25.

Not original poster but, definitely Army and maybe UPenn , Hofstra and not sure if Loyola is in too 25 but them as well. Stanford great at academics mediocre at lacrosse. If they weren’t out west wouldn’t even be in the conversation. Those are the facts.

Preseason & weekly rankings especially early season rankings are a joke and do not count for anything. The only rankings that holds any weight are the "Final" rankings at the end of the season after all of the games have been played.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Highly overrated #24 Jacksonville beat “properly rated” 🙄 Stanford 12-10. Both teams have no business being in the 25. Sorry for the Stanford dads. But the above poster is correct. You got your panties in a bunch. Take solace in the fact that your daughter goes to a great school and they have good lacrosse. If my daughter had the opportunity to go to that school in two years I would jump at the chance. Doesn’t mean they aren’t overrated by Inside Lax and US Lax. They are!

When you say that Stanford and Jacksonville don’t belong in the Top 25 that’s fine but you’d have to post who does belong that’s not currently listed in the top 25.

Not original poster but, definitely Army and maybe UPenn , Hofstra and not sure if Loyola is in too 25 but them as well. Stanford great at academics mediocre at lacrosse. If they weren’t out west wouldn’t even be in the conversation. Those are the facts.

Preseason & weekly rankings especially early season rankings are a joke and do not count for anything. The only rankings that holds any weight are the "Final" rankings at the end of the season after all of the games have been played.

Honestly other than a few more games to base their opinion on the final rankings are still just opinion and dont mean that much other than the champion who has earned that spot. That said the rankings are generally pretty accurate .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Highly overrated #24 Jacksonville beat “properly rated” 🙄 Stanford 12-10. Both teams have no business being in the 25. Sorry for the Stanford dads. But the above poster is correct. You got your panties in a bunch. Take solace in the fact that your daughter goes to a great school and they have good lacrosse. If my daughter had the opportunity to go to that school in two years I would jump at the chance. Doesn’t mean they aren’t overrated by Inside Lax and US Lax. They are!

When you say that Stanford and Jacksonville don’t belong in the Top 25 that’s fine but you’d have to post who does belong that’s not currently listed in the top 25.

Let’s see to start. Penn State and Ohio State. Probably add UPenn as well. Don’t think my original statement was outlandish. They are only there because they’re in the west and they are tryin to push interest out there. They are a good team and a great school. If you can’t see that because you have a daughter plays there that’s your issue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...

No response to what? What is the response supposed to be to?
Maryland played Drexel and only won by 6 (keeping her key players in), Cuse played Binghamton and won by 7 and pulled her starters in the 4th quarter (where Binghamton scored 7 goals). Everyone wants to put MD on a pedestal that they don't always belong on.

Actually, Maryland does belong on a pedestal. One play, one game, one season does not make a program. Maryland is by far the best women's lacrosse program in the history of the sport. Are they the best this year? Who knows, as the post above says "time will tell" and "that's why they play the games".

One thing is very obvious on this forum, way too many post originate from a place of jealousy.
Jealousy? About what? People can like a team and dislike a team. Has ZERO to do with jealousy.
You can acknowledge that Maryland is the best program of all time while also saying they are overrated this year and should not have been ranked that high coming into the season.

Time will tell with this year's team but history should not be factored in as much with current rankings unless those historical players find another year of eligibility and take the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...

No response to what? What is the response supposed to be to?
Maryland played Drexel and only won by 6 (keeping her key players in), Cuse played Binghamton and won by 7 and pulled her starters in the 4th quarter (where Binghamton scored 7 goals). Everyone wants to put MD on a pedestal that they don't always belong on.

Actually, Maryland does belong on a pedestal. One play, one game, one season does not make a program. Maryland is by far the best women's lacrosse program in the history of the sport. Are they the best this year? Who knows, as the post above says "time will tell" and "that's why they play the games".

One thing is very obvious on this forum, way too many post originate from a place of jealousy.
Jealousy? About what? People can like a team and dislike a team. Has ZERO to do with jealousy.

Just read the posts... i.e. the attacks on Stanford.... My guess is the Maryland haters just can not stand the fact that Maryland has completely dominated.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...

No response to what? What is the response supposed to be to?
Maryland played Drexel and only won by 6 (keeping her key players in), Cuse played Binghamton and won by 7 and pulled her starters in the 4th quarter (where Binghamton scored 7 goals). Everyone wants to put MD on a pedestal that they don't always belong on.

Actually, Maryland does belong on a pedestal. One play, one game, one season does not make a program. Maryland is by far the best women's lacrosse program in the history of the sport. Are they the best this year? Who knows, as the post above says "time will tell" and "that's why they play the games".

One thing is very obvious on this forum, way too many post originate from a place of jealousy.
Jealousy? About what? People can like a team and dislike a team. Has ZERO to do with jealousy.

Just read the posts... i.e. the attacks on Stanford.... My guess is the Maryland haters just can not stand the fact that Maryland has completely dominated.....[/quot

Maryland did dominate. Past tense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...

No response to what? What is the response supposed to be to?
Maryland played Drexel and only won by 6 (keeping her key players in), Cuse played Binghamton and won by 7 and pulled her starters in the 4th quarter (where Binghamton scored 7 goals). Everyone wants to put MD on a pedestal that they don't always belong on.

Actually, Maryland does belong on a pedestal. One play, one game, one season does not make a program. Maryland is by far the best women's lacrosse program in the history of the sport. Are they the best this year? Who knows, as the post above says "time will tell" and "that's why they play the games".

One thing is very obvious on this forum, way too many post originate from a place of jealousy.
Jealousy? About what? People can like a team and dislike a team. Has ZERO to do with jealousy.

Just read the posts... i.e. the attacks on Stanford.... My guess is the Maryland haters just can not stand the fact that Maryland has completely dominated.....[/quot

Maryland did dominate. Past tense.

Yeah, heard that before.... Jokers on here had them all washed up before the start of last season... as the other post says "One play, one game, one season does not make a program"... I guess haters gonna....
Not sure why someone can’t post a comment on here about a team without them getting upset. Whether it’s Maryland, Stanford, insert your daughter’s team here. Stop taking it so personal. Everyone has an opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right. And they’re not talking about your daughter so get over it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure why someone can’t post a comment on here about a team without them getting upset. Whether it’s Maryland, Stanford, insert your daughter’s team here. Stop taking it so personal. Everyone has an opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right. And they’re not talking about your daughter so get over it.

I get it. Coming from club, West coast teams are usually overrated. Stanford one of the tops academically.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
On bth the mens and woman’s side, it is hard to watch a game without seeing the transfers get all the limelight. It’s very sad that the kids that were actually recruited are not even getting a chance to play. System is broken and it is an embarrassment.
have one more year to deal with this. 2024 will be the last of Covid extra year grads/transfers. there are many 21's and 22's that not getting the playing time they normally would have. the good coaches will find a way to get them some time so they are ready when they are needed after 2024.

The reality is many of these 21’s & 22’s will stop playing by then due to frustration of sitting on the sidelines and the remaining ones won’t be ready due to lack of college game experience. They will be juniors and seniors and will passed over by incoming talented freshmen coming off 4 full years of high school playing time. Especially the freshmen who played in competitive high school conferences like the IAAM. The really are the athletic victims of Covid.
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[quote=Anonymous]Is MD that bad or Cuse that good?

Time will tell….

March 21, 2021

North Carolina beat Boston College 21 - 9…

May 28, 2021

North Carolina lost to Boston College 11 - 10…

Few if any thought BC would go on to win the National Championship that year….

That’s why they play the games 😃

Should be a fun year!

No response, no surprise...

No response to what? What is the response supposed to be to?
Maryland played Drexel and only won by 6 (keeping her key players in), Cuse played Binghamton and won by 7 and pulled her starters in the 4th quarter (where Binghamton scored 7 goals). Everyone wants to put MD on a pedestal that they don't always belong on.

Actually, Maryland does belong on a pedestal. One play, one game, one season does not make a program. Maryland is by far the best women's lacrosse program in the history of the sport. Are they the best this year? Who knows, as the post above says "time will tell" and "that's why they play the games".

One thing is very obvious on this forum, way too many post originate from a place of jealousy.
Jealousy? About what? People can like a team and dislike a team. Has ZERO to do with jealousy.

Just read the posts... i.e. the attacks on Stanford.... My guess is the Maryland haters just can not stand the fact that Maryland has completely dominated.....[/quot

Maryland did dominate. Past tense.

Will be very interesting to see how Maryland does against Florida today. If the game is close, Maryland is in serious trouble. Looking at Maryland’s social media, there is a new coach favorite in Freshmen #14.
Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure why someone can’t post a comment on here about a team without them getting upset. Whether it’s Maryland, Stanford, insert your daughter’s team here. Stop taking it so personal. Everyone has an opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right. And they’re not talking about your daughter so get over it.

The majority of attacks that attempt to knock a team are personal. They attacks may very well be the "opinion" of someone but they are most certainly personal in nature and they are intended to tear a team and the players down. IMHO the people who come on here to bash a team do it to try to elevate (indirectly) their own daughters team. Looks to me that some people have an inferiority complex due to the school that their daughter attends and the team she plays for.

I would bet that the majority of parents that try to knock schools / teams like Maryland and Stanford have daughters who attend or will be attending two schools in particular.

Can you guess which two schools/programs ? They are neither the best academic schools or the best lacrosse schools but the parents can't stand it so they attack the others in an effort to elevate where their daughters school/team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why someone can’t post a comment on here about a team without them getting upset. Whether it’s Maryland, Stanford, insert your daughter’s team here. Stop taking it so personal. Everyone has an opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right. And they’re not talking about your daughter so get over it.

I get it. Coming from club, West coast teams are usually overrated. Stanford one of the tops academically.[

What are you even trying to say? Are you comparing club lacrosse to college lacrosse?!?
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Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th. They move the ball well and the goalie is very good. ND is ok, a .500 team at best in the ACC and a weak OOC schedule.
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Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
Clemson is a top 20 team right now but will only last for this year then they will fall off like Pitt. If you look at their roster it’s made up of players who have lots of D1 experience .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why someone can’t post a comment on here about a team without them getting upset. Whether it’s Maryland, Stanford, insert your daughter’s team here. Stop taking it so personal. Everyone has an opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right. And they’re not talking about your daughter so get over it.

I get it. Coming from club, West coast teams are usually overrated. Stanford one of the tops academically.[

What are you even trying to say? Are you comparing club lacrosse to college lacrosse?!?

Pretty simple. West Coast teams are always ranked higher than they should be, whether club or college.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why someone can’t post a comment on here about a team without them getting upset. Whether it’s Maryland, Stanford, insert your daughter’s team here. Stop taking it so personal. Everyone has an opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right. And they’re not talking about your daughter so get over it.

I get it. Coming from club, West coast teams are usually overrated. Stanford one of the tops academically.[

What are you even trying to say? Are you comparing club lacrosse to college lacrosse?!?

Pretty simple. West Coast teams are always ranked higher than they should be, whether club or college.

Lol okay sorry your daughter’s club team is ranked lower than a west coast team. But I do agree that the rankings are an imperfect system.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th. They move the ball well and the goalie is very good. ND is ok, a .500 team at best in the ACC and a weak OOC schedule.

-- "I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th."--

That statement reminds me of an old saying, something about the "if the Queen had you know what, she would be the King"....

So let me get this straight, you state that "Clemson is good" and then you state "ND is ok".... I assume that in your mind "ok" is better than "good"....
We are all very happy that you were there but your post is absurd.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why someone can’t post a comment on here about a team without them getting upset. Whether it’s Maryland, Stanford, insert your daughter’s team here. Stop taking it so personal. Everyone has an opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right. And they’re not talking about your daughter so get over it.

I get it. Coming from club, West coast teams are usually overrated. Stanford one of the tops academically.[

What are you even trying to say? Are you comparing club lacrosse to college lacrosse?!?

Pretty simple. West Coast teams are always ranked higher than they should be, whether club or college.

What teams are these West Coast College Teams always ranked higher than? The reality is that there is very little parity in this sport, very few programs outside the traditional Top 10 - 20 Programs are able to consistently compete with and break into that group.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th. They move the ball well and the goalie is very good. ND is ok, a .500 team at best in the ACC and a weak OOC schedule.

-- "I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th."--

That statement reminds me of an old saying, something about the "if the Queen had you know what, she would be the King"....

So let me get this straight, you state that "Clemson is good" and then you state "ND is ok".... I assume that in your mind "ok" is better than "good"....
We are all very happy that you were there but your post is absurd.
Considering the talent ND has the game should not have been close. For a 1st year team Clemson is good. they were up 9-7 in the 4th before the 1st of the 3 yellow cards. All 3 cards were legit calls so Clemson has to work on those situations. Clemson will be a better team than ND in 2 years. ND is the jeckyll and hide of the ACC.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th. They move the ball well and the goalie is very good. ND is ok, a .500 team at best in the ACC and a weak OOC schedule.

-- "I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th."--

That statement reminds me of an old saying, something about the "if the Queen had you know what, she would be the King"....

So let me get this straight, you state that "Clemson is good" and then you state "ND is ok".... I assume that in your mind "ok" is better than "good"....
We are all very happy that you were there but your post is absurd.
Considering the talent ND has the game should not have been close. For a 1st year team Clemson is good. they were up 9-7 in the 4th before the 1st of the 3 yellow cards. All 3 cards were legit calls so Clemson has to work on those situations. Clemson will be a better team than ND in 2 years. ND is the jeckyll and hide of the ACC.

Let's not forget ND in 2022 ND had to schedule some weak, late games against the likes of Detroit Mercy to even hit .500 to make the tournament. Clemson had only played cupcakes prior to the ND game. Both are decent teams, but I don't expect Clemson to dominate anything other than low level match-ups--most of the harder games should be scrappy and interesting to watch!

My only hope is ND doesn't make the tourney this year, but that's just personal bias.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th. They move the ball well and the goalie is very good. ND is ok, a .500 team at best in the ACC and a weak OOC schedule.

-- "I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th."--

That statement reminds me of an old saying, something about the "if the Queen had you know what, she would be the King"....

So let me get this straight, you state that "Clemson is good" and then you state "ND is ok".... I assume that in your mind "ok" is better than "good"....
We are all very happy that you were there but your post is absurd.
Considering the talent ND has the game should not have been close. For a 1st year team Clemson is good. they were up 9-7 in the 4th before the 1st of the 3 yellow cards. All 3 cards were legit calls so Clemson has to work on those situations. Clemson will be a better team than ND in 2 years. ND is the jeckyll and hide of the ACC.

Let's not forget ND in 2022 ND had to schedule some weak, late games against the likes of Detroit Mercy to even hit .500 to make the tournament. Clemson had only played cupcakes prior to the ND game. Both are decent teams, but I don't expect Clemson to dominate anything other than low level match-ups--most of the harder games should be scrappy and interesting to watch!

My only hope is ND doesn't make the tourney this year, but that's just personal bias.
ND will lose to UNC, BC, Cuse, UVA and Duke. they will probably lose another ACC game they shouldn't. The have a weak out of conf scheduled beside NW who rolled over ND. ND will be 9-7
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – February 27



The Tar Heels stay atop the polls in Week 3, earning 21 first-place votes, while Syracuse follows at No. 2, earning six first-place nods. After picking up wins last week, Northwestern and Boston College remain in the third and fourth positions.

Maryland rounds out the top five, bumping Stony Brook into the sixth-ranked position after the Terps pulled off an exciting road-win against Florida on Saturday.

After upsetting two Top 25 teams in Week 2 and 3, Army made its first appearance in the polls, landing at No. 16 after a convincing 10-5 victory over Rutgers this weekend.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (4 - 0) 669 (21) 1
2 Syracuse (4 - 0) 654 (6) 2
3 Northwestern (3 - 1) 617 3
4 Boston College (3 - 1) 592 4
5 Maryland (3 - 1) 540 6
6 Stony Brook (2 - 0) 535 5
7 Florida (1 - 2) 477 7
8 Loyola (2 - 0) 468 8
9 Denver (4 - 0) 439 11
10 Virginia (4 - 0) 432 12
11 Duke (3 - 1) 402 10
12 James Madison (3 - 1) 378 13
13 Notre Dame (3 - 1) 329 14
14 Rutgers (3 - 1) 305 9
15 Princeton (1 - 1) 234 17
16 Army (4 - 0) 203 NR
17 Stanford (1 - 2) 191 15
18 Richmond (4 - 0) 172 19
19 Johns Hopkins (1 - 2) 165 16
19 USC (2 - 1) 165 19
21 Michigan (3 - 2) 159 18
22 Yale (2 - 1) 140 21
23 Penn (2 - 0) 110 NR
24 Jacksonville (1 - 3) 109 24
25 UMass (3 - 1) 91 22
RV Penn State, Boston U, Louisville, UConn, Clemson
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – February 27



East Stroudsburg returns as No. 1 in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll for the third time after notching their first win against No. 17 Seton Hill.

Tampa and Florida Southern both pulled off wins against Adelphi this past week, bumping both teams into the No. 2 and No. 3 positions, respectively while the Panthers dropped to the sixth spot. West Chester and Le Moyne round out the Top 5 in the fourth and fifth positions respectively.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 East Stroudsburg (1 - 0) 714 (21) 1
2 Tampa (4 - 0) 644 (5) 6
3 Florida Southern (3 - 0) 635 (1) 4
4 West Chester (2 - 0) 609 3
5 Le Moyne (1 - 0) 595 5
6 Adelphi (0 - 2) 551 (1) 2
7 UIndy (4 - 0) 543 (1) 7
8 Regis (CO) (1 - 0) 508 8
9 Rollins (3 - 0) 477 9
10 Grand Valley (1 - 1) 442 10
11 Mercy (1 - 1) 408 11
12 Wingate (3 - 1) 399 12
13 Pace (1 - 0) 351 13
14 Lynn (2 - 1) 317 14
15 Flagler (3 - 1) 284 17
16 Assumption (1 - 0) 277 16
17 Seton Hill (0 - 1) 254 15
18 New Haven (0 - 0) 215 18
19 Embry-Riddle (1 - 1) 179 19
20 Saint Leo (2 - 0) 176 21
21 Mercyhurst (1 - 0) 144 20
22 Bentley (0 - 1) 94 23
23 Mount Olive (1 - 2) 88 25
24 Colorado Mesa (0 - 0) 76 24
25 Roberts Wesleyan (2 - 1) 67 22
RV Saint Anselm, Florida Tech, Charleston (WV), Alabama Huntsville, Davis & Elkins
Did anyone else catch UM vs Central Michigan yesterday? UM barely escaped with a 6-5 win over a plucky CMU team. The CMU goalie had at least 14 saves and broke a school record (stated on the broadcast). Jill didn't dress for Michigan and it was a factor. The team appears to be a little one dimensional if she's out and it's partially a testament to her talents, I guess.

Overall, I cannot fathom how they move up a slot in rankings when they barely beat CMU in a game that was tied 5-5 at the end of the 3rd. Hannah has a lot of work to do to get this team running offensively, although the defense was decent.

Any thoughts?
Michigan moved down three spots in the IWLCA poll.
Originally Posted by baldbear
Michigan moved down three spots in the IWLCA poll.

While they moved up in the USA Lacrosse Magazine poll.
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Originally Posted by baldbear
Michigan moved down three spots in the IWLCA poll.

While they moved up in the USA Lacrosse Magazine poll.

Which confirms how subjective polls can be.
Example of how polls can be subjective? In Division II Adelphi played two quality teams just below them in the polls last week and lost both games. Both teams jumped ahead of Adelphi in the IWLCA poll and now have a record of 0-2 but still received one 1st place vote.
Watching a bunch of the games and have been watching some of the preseason AA mid field players. Seems strange to me that many are not what I think of as a midfielder ie they really dont play both sides of the ball. Seems to me they are actual attack players who coaches say are midfielders, is this done to help them get those post season awards ? I say this because alot of the post season awards are based on stats and its alot easier to compare stats with actual 2 way middies then the Scane ,Tyrels of the world. That said it seems unfair to the actual 2 way players who are often in a rotation etc .Curious what others think.
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Originally Posted by baldbear
Michigan moved down three spots in the IWLCA poll.

While they moved up in the USA Lacrosse Magazine poll.

Which confirms how subjective polls can be.

Subjective and/or lazy. At the end of the day, polls/rankings don't matter, players to watch/players that impressed don't matter...only thing that matters is the final score.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th. They move the ball well and the goalie is very good. ND is ok, a .500 team at best in the ACC and a weak OOC schedule.

-- "I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th."--

That statement reminds me of an old saying, something about the "if the Queen had you know what, she would be the King"....

So let me get this straight, you state that "Clemson is good" and then you state "ND is ok".... I assume that in your mind "ok" is better than "good"....
We are all very happy that you were there but your post is absurd.
Considering the talent ND has the game should not have been close. For a 1st year team Clemson is good. they were up 9-7 in the 4th before the 1st of the 3 yellow cards. All 3 cards were legit calls so Clemson has to work on those situations. Clemson will be a better team than ND in 2 years. ND is the jeckyll and hide of the ACC.

Clemson May be a new program but they had 19 junior/senior/graduate transfers. They are not a typical new team like USF will be next year. They probsbly belong to be ranked top 25
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clemson up 9-7 in the fourth. ND with the last five to win. So…..Clemson for real or ND not that good?
I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th. They move the ball well and the goalie is very good. ND is ok, a .500 team at best in the ACC and a weak OOC schedule.

-- "I was there. Clemson is good. They would have won if they had not got the 3 yellows in the 4th."--

That statement reminds me of an old saying, something about the "if the Queen had you know what, she would be the King"....

So let me get this straight, you state that "Clemson is good" and then you state "ND is ok".... I assume that in your mind "ok" is better than "good"....
We are all very happy that you were there but your post is absurd.
Considering the talent ND has the game should not have been close. For a 1st year team Clemson is good. they were up 9-7 in the 4th before the 1st of the 3 yellow cards. All 3 cards were legit calls so Clemson has to work on those situations. Clemson will be a better team than ND in 2 years. ND is the jeckyll and hide of the ACC.

Clemson May be a new program but they had 19 junior/senior/graduate transfers. They are not a typical new team like USF will be next year. They probsbly belong to be ranked top 25

On top of that - many transfers that played significant minutes at the D1 level and were all-conference selections.
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Watching a bunch of the games and have been watching some of the preseason AA mid field players. Seems strange to me that many are not what I think of as a midfielder ie they really dont play both sides of the ball. Seems to me they are actual attack players who coaches say are midfielders, is this done to help them get those post season awards ? I say this because alot of the post season awards are based on stats and its alot easier to compare stats with actual 2 way middies then the Scane ,Tyrels of the world. That said it seems unfair to the actual 2 way players who are often in a rotation etc .Curious what others think.

Unfortunately, goal scores get the attention of the majority of parents/fans primarily because the majority of people watching the game can not quantify anything else. Championships are built on "Team Defense" which the true two way midfielders are an extremely important part of. College coaches (especially at the best programs) put a premium on versatile athletes who do a lot of the work that goes unnoticed by the majority of fans/parents.

When it comes time for "awards" it's tough on all players except for the goal scorers simply because it's difficult to measure the impact that other players make on the success of a team. Think about offensive linemen in football, most of us can watch a game but we will not be able to tell just how much of an impact the linemen have (but we will all see the few plays throughout the game when the lineman gets beat or makes a mistake).

Not sure that coaches are trying to position attack players as "offensive midfielders" in order to set them up for post season recognition, I just think it is very difficult to quantify anything except goals / assists .

Just the nature of the beast, it's a Team Sport and all of the positions are important, a team will not win a championship without exceptional players across the board (and good coaching).
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching a bunch of the games and have been watching some of the preseason AA mid field players. Seems strange to me that many are not what I think of as a midfielder ie they really dont play both sides of the ball. Seems to me they are actual attack players who coaches say are midfielders, is this , done to help them get those post season awards ? I say this because alot of the post season awards are based on stats and its alot easier to compare stats with actual 2 way middies then the Scane ,Tyrels of the world. That said it seems unfair to the actual 2 way players who are often in a rotation etc .Curious what others think.

Unfortunately, goal scores get the attention of the majority of parents/fans primarily because the majority of people watching the game can not quantify anything else. Championships are built on "Team Defense" which the true two way midfielders are an extremely important part of. College coaches (especially at the best programs) put a premium on versatile athletes who do a lot of the work that goes unnoticed by the majority of fans/parents.

When it comes time for "awards" it's tough on all players except for the goal scorers simply because it's difficult to measure the impact that other players make on the success of a team. Think about offensive linemen in football, most of us can watch a game but we will not be able to tell just how much of an impact the linemen have (but we will all see the few plays throughout the game when the lineman gets beat or makes a mistake).

Not sure that coaches are trying to position attack players as "offensive midfielders" in order to set them up for post season recognition, I just think it is very difficult to quantify anything except goals / assists .

Just the nature of the beast, it's a Team Sport and all of the positions are important, a team will not win a championship without exceptional players across the board (and good coaching).

While I agree it seems to me that when the post season awards come around actual midfielders should get the recognition . Seems like actual defenders get the defensive awards, actual attack players get the attack awards but many of the midfield awards go to attack players. Is what it is but its not that difficult for them to figure it out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching a bunch of the games and have been watching some of the preseason AA mid field players. Seems strange to me that many are not what I think of as a midfielder ie they really dont play both sides of the ball. Seems to me they are actual attack players who coaches say are midfielders, is this , done to help them get those post season awards ? I say this because alot of the post season awards are based on stats and its alot easier to compare stats with actual 2 way middies then the Scane ,Tyrels of the world. That said it seems unfair to the actual 2 way players who are often in a rotation etc .Curious what others think.

Unfortunately, goal scores get the attention of the majority of parents/fans primarily because the majority of people watching the game can not quantify anything else. Championships are built on "Team Defense" which the true two way midfielders are an extremely important part of. College coaches (especially at the best programs) put a premium on versatile athletes who do a lot of the work that goes unnoticed by the majority of fans/parents.

When it comes time for "awards" it's tough on all players except for the goal scorers simply because it's difficult to measure the impact that other players make on the success of a team. Think about offensive linemen in football, most of us can watch a game but we will not be able to tell just how much of an impact the linemen have (but we will all see the few plays throughout the game when the lineman gets beat or makes a mistake).

Not sure that coaches are trying to position attack players as "offensive midfielders" in order to set them up for post season recognition, I just think it is very difficult to quantify anything except goals / assists .

Just the nature of the beast, it's a Team Sport and all of the positions are important, a team will not win a championship without exceptional players across the board (and good coaching).

While I agree it seems to me that when the post season awards come around actual midfielders should get the recognition . Seems like actual defenders get the defensive awards, actual attack players get the attack awards but many of the midfield awards go to attack players. Is what it is but its not that difficult for them to figure it out.



This is where the fantasy point system gives perspective in how a player should be assessed to even out the playing field: Draw Controls, CTO, GB etc need to be considered for the overall player's effectiveness.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – February 27



With NESCAC still awaiting play, No. 1 Middlebury and No. 2 Tufts both stayed put in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll.

Washington and Lee jumped four spots into the fourth-ranked slot after topping Salisbury 6-5 this Saturday, marking the third win of the year for the Generals, going 3-0 through the opening month of the season.

TCNJ stayed put in the third-ranked slot while Salisbury dropped a spot into the fifth position.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (0 - 0) 877 (31) 1
2 Tufts (0 - 0) 828 (3) 2
3 TCNJ (0 - 0) 805 3
4 Washington and Lee (3 - 0) 788 (1) 8
5 Salisbury (2 - 1) 739 (1) 4
6 Colby (0 - 0) 672 7
7 Gettysburg (2 - 1) 660 5
8 Franklin & Marshall (0 - 1) 651 6
9 William Smith (1 - 0) 624 9
10 Ithaca (1 - 0) 567 10
11 Wesleyan (0 - 0) 487 11
12 York (0 - 0) 452 12
13 Messiah (2 - 0) 433 16
14 Cortland (0 - 0) 397 13
15 St. Lawrence (0 - 0) 366 14
16 Bowdoin (0 - 0) 343 15
17 Chicago (1 - 0) 308 17
18 Catholic (0 - 2) 262 18
19 Hamilton (0 - 0) 228 20
20 Roanoke (2 - 0) 182 25
21 Trinity (0 - 0) 168 21
22 Pomona-Pitzer (3 - 0) 157 22
23 Geneseo (0 - 0) 109 23
24 Denison (0 - 3) 89 19
25 Haverford (1 - 1) 85 24
RV Christopher Newport, St. John Fisher, Colorado College, Berry, Roger Williams
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching a bunch of the games and have been watching some of the preseason AA mid field players. Seems strange to me that many are not what I think of as a midfielder ie they really dont play both sides of the ball. Seems to me they are actual attack players who coaches say are midfielders, is this , done to help them get those post season awards ? I say this because alot of the post season awards are based on stats and its alot easier to compare stats with actual 2 way middies then the Scane ,Tyrels of the world. That said it seems unfair to the actual 2 way players who are often in a rotation etc .Curious what others think.

Unfortunately, goal scores get the attention of the majority of parents/fans primarily because the majority of people watching the game can not quantify anything else. Championships are built on "Team Defense" which the true two way midfielders are an extremely important part of. College coaches (especially at the best programs) put a premium on versatile athletes who do a lot of the work that goes unnoticed by the majority of fans/parents.

When it comes time for "awards" it's tough on all players except for the goal scorers simply because it's difficult to measure the impact that other players make on the success of a team. Think about offensive linemen in football, most of us can watch a game but we will not be able to tell just how much of an impact the linemen have (but we will all see the few plays throughout the game when the lineman gets beat or makes a mistake).

Not sure that coaches are trying to position attack players as "offensive midfielders" in order to set them up for post season recognition, I just think it is very difficult to quantify anything except goals / assists .

Just the nature of the beast, it's a Team Sport and all of the positions are important, a team will not win a championship without exceptional players across the board (and good coaching).

While I agree it seems to me that when the post season awards come around actual midfielders should get the recognition . Seems like actual defenders get the defensive awards, actual attack players get the attack awards but many of the midfield awards go to attack players. Is what it is but its not that difficult for them to figure it out.

That is about as wrong as can be. Of the 21 women's Tewaaraton awards given in the history of the game, 12 to midfield, 7 to attack, 1 to goalie and 1 to defender.
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Libby May – University of Maryland

May led No. 6 Terps to a pair of road wins over Drexel and No. 7 Florida, totaling 12 goals on the week - six in each game - to lead the offense. Her 12 goals on 21 shots registered her a .571 shooting percentage and led all Big Ten players in goals for the week. She is currently ranked fourth in goals and fifth in points within the conference. With the 2-0 week, Maryland has moved into the fifth spot in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Sydney Pappas – Villanova University

Pappas led the 4-0 Wildcat offense to a 16-7 win over La Salle and an 11-10 overtime win against Navy. She registered six goals in the La Salle matchup and followed up with a five-goal performance in the overtime thriller. Pappas 11 goals came on 16 shots (.6875 shot percentage), while also notching an assist in both matchups as well. She is currently ranked eighth nationally in goals per game with a 4.5 mark.

Defensive Player of the Week

Amelia Hughes – Princeton University

Hughes picked up her first collegiate victory with a 19-save performance in the No. 17 Tigers' 17-9 win at Temple. She made 13 saves in the second half and was a perfect 7-for-7 on free position attempts from the Owls. Hughes currently ranks No. 1 in the country in saves-per-game (15.0).
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Giana Murphy – Florida Southern College

Murphy, a sophomore attacker, posted a career-high five goals in the No. 4 Moccasins' 15-10 win over No. 2 Adelphi. She also added two assists, one caused turnover and one draw control to her career-high marks. The Mocs 3-0 start has moved them into the No. 3 position in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division II Poll.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Ashley Shen – University of Montevallo

Shen set a single-game program record with seven caused turnovers and eight ground balls in Montevallo’s 9-8 win over UVA Wise. Both tallies were career-highs for her as well.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Alex Walling – University of Tampa

The senior goalkeeper stood firm to lead No. 6 Tampa to an upset victory over No.2 Adelphi at home. She recorded 10 saves on 19 shots faced to assist the Spartans in the 14-9 win. At 4-0 for the year, Tampa has slid up to the No. 2 spot in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division II Poll.
DIVISION III


Offensive Player of the Week

Grace Osborn – Capital University

Osborn led Capital to their second straight 10-plus goal win of the season. In the 23-13 victory at Centre, she scored 10 goals, marking the third time of her career that she has scored 10 or more goals in a single-game. In addition, she registered two caused turnovers, one ground ball and nine draw controls. Osborn remains the only player in Capital history to score double-digit goals in a single game, men or women. Her performance earned her the Ohio Athletic Conference Offensive Player of the Week this past week as well.

Defensive Player of the Week

Eugenie Rovegno – Washington and Lee University

Rovegno regsitered a career high nine draw controls at Christopher Newport, helping the No. 8 Generals take down CNU, 11-8. She then followed up with a game-best seven draws and forced three turnovers with three groundballs in the 6-5 win over No. 4 Salisbury. The Generals are 3-0 to start the season and made a big jump in the rankings to hold the fourth position in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division III Poll.
Congratulations to Duke beating Liberty 18-4 today. Scoring the 18th goal with one second remaining on the clock was really classy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching a bunch of the games and have been watching some of the preseason AA mid field players. Seems strange to me that many are not what I think of as a midfielder ie they really dont play both sides of the ball. Seems to me they are actual attack players who coaches say are midfielders, is this , done to help them get those post season awards ? I say this because alot of the post season awards are based on stats and its alot easier to compare stats with actual 2 way middies then the Scane ,Tyrels of the world. That said it seems unfair to the actual 2 way players who are often in a rotation etc .Curious what others think.

Unfortunately, goal scores get the attention of the majority of parents/fans primarily because the majority of people watching the game can not quantify anything else. Championships are built on "Team Defense" which the true two way midfielders are an extremely important part of. College coaches (especially at the best programs) put a premium on versatile athletes who do a lot of the work that goes unnoticed by the majority of fans/parents.

When it comes time for "awards" it's tough on all players except for the goal scorers simply because it's difficult to measure the impact that other players make on the success of a team. Think about offensive linemen in football, most of us can watch a game but we will not be able to tell just how much of an impact the linemen have (but we will all see the few plays throughout the game when the lineman gets beat or makes a mistake).

Not sure that coaches are trying to position attack players as "offensive midfielders" in order to set them up for post season recognition, I just think it is very difficult to quantify anything except goals / assists .

Just the nature of the beast, it's a Team Sport and all of the positions are important, a team will not win a championship without exceptional players across the board (and good coaching).

While I agree it seems to me that when the post season awards come around actual midfielders should get the recognition . Seems like actual defenders get the defensive awards, actual attack players get the attack awards but many of the midfield awards go to attack players. Is what it is but its not that difficult for them to figure it out.

That is about as wrong as can be. Of the 21 women's Tewaaraton awards given in the history of the game, 12 to midfield, 7 to attack, 1 to goalie and 1 to defender.

First off Einstein , no middie has won that award in the last 5 years . Second no one was actually talking about the Tewaaraton . Third I believe coaches putting players as middies who are actually attackers I believe is a more recent phenomenon. So really you could not be more wrong .
Maryland had 14 free positions and loses. 😬 JMU d is awesome. Durkin needs to start getting credit like players like Bosco get. And no she isn’t my daughter.
The goalie's level of play has elevated faster than any other position just because great athletes are jumping in the cage and winning games. A great day in the cage is the equalizer between teams. Once a goalie gets in the attackers' head, it can energize the girls in front of her.
Another lax season, another overrated MD women’s lax team.
"Couple of quick observations,
1. UNC top 10 yes top 5 no. Defense will be very solid again but the goalie is an unkown. They lost a ton of offense that cannot be replaced.
2. Syracuse is top 3, they return their best offensive players and add 2 more from the injury list, they will be better in goal this year as they cant be worse
3. JMU is better than 12 and will end up top 5 by the end of the season ( will still lose opener but I think end up better than UNC)
4. Stanford is not a top 10 , not sure why they keep trying to sneak the west coast teams up the list , lost their best offensive player and essentially beat no one last year how do they jump over Denver, UVA , Jacksonville and even Richmond , all teams who beat them last year.
5. The team everyone loves to detest Duke is better than their ranking and with the draw kid returning will be difficult to beat , sad that they still play a weak non conference schedule."


The above was the post that got the Stanford Dads all upset , seems like some pretty good preseason predictions other than maybe Duke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Couple of quick observations,
1. UNC top 10 yes top 5 no. Defense will be very solid again but the goalie is an unkown. They lost a ton of offense that cannot be replaced.
2. Syracuse is top 3, they return their best offensive players and add 2 more from the injury list, they will be better in goal this year as they cant be worse
3. JMU is better than 12 and will end up top 5 by the end of the season ( will still lose opener but I think end up better than UNC)
4. Stanford is not a top 10 , not sure why they keep trying to sneak the west coast teams up the list , lost their best offensive player and essentially beat no one last year how do they jump over Denver, UVA , Jacksonville and even Richmond , all teams who beat them last year.
5. The team everyone loves to detest Duke is better than their ranking and with the draw kid returning will be difficult to beat , sad that they still play a weak non conference schedule."


The above was the post that got the Stanford Dads all upset , seems like some pretty good preseason predictions other than maybe Duke.

Let’s see what happens when they play StonyBrook
Wow BC in way over there head😮 what happened to the superstar “top ranked” player
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Couple of quick observations,
1. UNC top 10 yes top 5 no. Defense will be very solid again but the goalie is an unkown. They lost a ton of offense that cannot be replaced.
2. Syracuse is top 3, they return their best offensive players and add 2 more from the injury list, they will be better in goal this year as they cant be worse
3. JMU is better than 12 and will end up top 5 by the end of the season ( will still lose opener but I think end up better than UNC)
4. Stanford is not a top 10 , not sure why they keep trying to sneak the west coast teams up the list , lost their best offensive player and essentially beat no one last year how do they jump over Denver, UVA , Jacksonville and even Richmond , all teams who beat them last year.
5. The team everyone loves to detest Duke is better than their ranking and with the draw kid returning will be difficult to beat , sad that they still play a weak non conference schedule."


The above was the post that got the Stanford Dads all upset , seems like some pretty good preseason predictions other than maybe Duke.

Let’s see what happens when they play StonyBrook

If UNC is not Top 5 where does that put BC?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow BC in way over there head😮 what happened to the superstar “top ranked” player

Charlotte North graduated at the pressure shifted.
If Duke does not beat a ranked team this year they should not even be considered for the NCAA tournament and no one should get any post season awards. Ridiculous their so called super stars pad their stats against overmatched teams or late in games during junk time when they are getting handled . Put their best offensive player on a team that plays a difficult non conference schedule and she gets no awards if she even sees the field.
You are pathetic. I assume you detest BC/Belle because your daughter didn’t get in? She wasn’t good enough, come to terms with it, she did.
As for BC, the girls will be just fine; Walker will make the appropriate adjustments and be ready come Tourney time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Couple of quick observations,
1. UNC top 10 yes top 5 no. Defense will be very solid again but the goalie is an unkown. They lost a ton of offense that cannot be replaced.
2. Syracuse is top 3, they return their best offensive players and add 2 more from the injury list, they will be better in goal this year as they cant be worse
3. JMU is better than 12 and will end up top 5 by the end of the season ( will still lose opener but I think end up better than UNC)
4. Stanford is not a top 10 , not sure why they keep trying to sneak the west coast teams up the list , lost their best offensive player and essentially beat no one last year how do they jump over Denver, UVA , Jacksonville and even Richmond , all teams who beat them last year.
5. The team everyone loves to detest Duke is better than their ranking and with the draw kid returning will be difficult to beat , sad that they still play a weak non conference schedule."


The above was the post that got the Stanford Dads all upset , seems like some pretty good preseason predictions other than maybe Duke.

Let’s see what happens when they play StonyBrook

If UNC is not Top 5 where does that put BC?

Lol, and Duke was beaten down badly by the first real team they played. And draws were terrible against good competition as well.
Some other weekend observations: Yale beating Princeton handily was nice to see. Stanford played a great game against StonyBrook, might have even won if SBs student didn’t take over the game. MD couldn’t beat JM was also surprising. Clemson is just average after a hot start against weak competition. Looks like it’s UNC far ahead followed by Cuse and Northwestern, then a bunch who are interchangeable.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Couple of quick observations,
1. UNC top 10 yes top 5 no. Defense will be very solid again but the goalie is an unkown. They lost a ton of offense that cannot be replaced.
2. Syracuse is top 3, they return their best offensive players and add 2 more from the injury list, they will be better in goal this year as they cant be worse
3. JMU is better than 12 and will end up top 5 by the end of the season ( will still lose opener but I think end up better than UNC)
4. Stanford is not a top 10 , not sure why they keep trying to sneak the west coast teams up the list , lost their best offensive player and essentially beat no one last year how do they jump over Denver, UVA , Jacksonville and even Richmond , all teams who beat them last year.
5. The team everyone loves to detest Duke is better than their ranking and with the draw kid returning will be difficult to beat , sad that they still play a weak non conference schedule."


The above was the post that got the Stanford Dads all upset , seems like some pretty good preseason predictions other than maybe Duke.

Let’s see what happens when they play StonyBrook

What difference will the Stony Brook vs Stanford game make? Both teams have been over hyped for years and neither team will be relevant when it matters (in the NCAA Tournament) so who cares what happens when they play in early March?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another lax season, another overrated MD women’s lax team.

Wow, possibly the most uniformed post ever on this site.

If Maryland has been an overrated team what toes that say about the rest of the DI field?
US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are pathetic. I assume you detest BC/Belle because your daughter didn’t get in? She wasn’t good enough, come to terms with it, she did.
As for BC, the girls will be just fine; Walker will make the appropriate adjustments and be ready come Tourney time.

Like getting dead wood off the field? Maybe BC didn’t realize they wouldn’t be good one their best by far player graduated. Coach Walkers face during that game was priceless! Botox needed!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.

So we all know that SB promotes thug ball, as do certain club teams. Now a girl has a critical injury due to an intention to harm. This is unacceptable. I don’t want to hear that it was an accident. When you cross check it is intentional. Girls do not wear protective gear, and women’s lacrosse is supposed to be non contact. This needs to end before something even worse happens. Come on refs, you need to enforce this type of play. Just horrible
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Duke does not beat a ranked team this year they should not even be considered for the NCAA tournament and no one should get any post season awards. Ridiculous their so called super stars pad their stats against overmatched teams or late in games during junk time when they are getting handled . Put their best offensive player on a team that plays a difficult non conference schedule and she gets no awards if she even sees the field.

Thanks for the insightful post. J@#% A$$
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]If Duke does not beat a ranked team this year they should not even be considered for the NCAA tournament and no one should get any post season awards. Ridiculous their so called super stars pad their stats against overmatched teams or late in games during junk time when they are getting handled . Put their best offensive player on a team that plays a difficult non conference schedule and she gets no awards if she even sees the field.

Thanks for the insightful post. J@#% Meanyquote]

Can’t argue with the post. Duke is a joke with their weak schedule. Pumping stats against terrible teams, then the get exposed. Every year. It’s getting old and predictable. They don’t have any actual superstars that can compete with the better players. Coach needs to go
So Scane at NW didn’t play this weekend at all in either game is she hurt? SB plays them Friday.

Cuse looks unstoppable right now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.

So we all know that SB promotes thug ball, as do certain club teams. Now a girl has a critical injury due to an intention to harm. This is unacceptable. I don’t want to hear that it was an accident. When you cross check it is intentional. Girls do not wear protective gear, and women’s lacrosse is supposed to be non contact. This needs to end before something even worse happens. Come on refs, you need to enforce this type of play. Just horrible

The girl who did it should be sued personally. Maybe that will send a message. Should also be an automatic red card and banned from playing in next game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.

So we all know that SB promotes thug ball, as do certain club teams. Now a girl has a critical injury due to an intention to harm. This is unacceptable. I don’t want to hear that it was an accident. When you cross check it is intentional. Girls do not wear protective gear, and women’s lacrosse is supposed to be non contact. This needs to end before something even worse happens. Come on refs, you need to enforce this type of play. Just horrible

The girl who did it should be sued personally. Maybe that will send a message. Should also be an automatic red card and banned from playing in next game.

"sued"? Really? Just a silly statement.
Are you guys kidding me? Talking about suing. This is what happens in the everybody gets a trophy society. Parents become soft as ….
Here you go. Perfect example why the rankings in lead are horrible. And I won’t use Stanford as an example. Those parents are already seeking therapy.

Duke gets absolutely crushed by ND. And they are now ranked only one spot behind ND. That’s incredible. For Duke to fall one spot after that game is ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you guys kidding me? Talking about suing. This is what happens in the everybody gets a trophy society. Parents become soft as ….

When your daughter gets her kidney split open while she’s defenseless by an an aggressive illegal crosscheck maybe you would have a different attitude. Girl could have died, and this was no accident. I’m sure the player didn’t want to put the girl in the hospital, but she acted in a reckless manor and it caused a great deal of harm. There needs to be accountability.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.

So we all know that SB promotes thug ball, as do certain club teams. Now a girl has a critical injury due to an intention to harm. This is unacceptable. I don’t want to hear that it was an accident. When you cross check it is intentional. Girls do not wear protective gear, and women’s lacrosse is supposed to be non contact. This needs to end before something even worse happens. Come on refs, you need to enforce this type of play. Just horrible

The girl who did it should be sued personally. Maybe that will send a message. Should also be an automatic red card and banned from playing in next game.

"sued"? Really? Just a silly statement.

The defender being sued is quite unlikely. However if you look at football as a parallel -- after serious injuries I would say it is quite possible that the school or coach could be sued. This has been done successfully several times after head to head contact.

Suing the kid would fail because her defense would likely be that "this is what we are taught". However, the coach/school doesn't have the same defense. Like in football, every minute of practice film would likely be suppoenaed and if there are multiple incidents of girls cross checking from behind, that could be the ballgame.

Remember the Everson family has vast resources and could likely use them to go after SB/Spallina, regardless of whether they will likely win. Personally, I think SB will likely try to settle this thing out of court ASAP


Honestly I am the only who has watched the video and did not think the foul was that bad. If the player did not get hurt its something you see in almost every womens lacrosse game on multiple occasions. Hope the kid is alright but but suing someone is ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.

So we all know that SB promotes thug ball, as do certain club teams. Now a girl has a critical injury due to an intention to harm. This is unacceptable. I don’t want to hear that it was an accident. When you cross check it is intentional. Girls do not wear protective gear, and women’s lacrosse is supposed to be non contact. This needs to end before something even worse happens. Come on refs, you need to enforce this type of play. Just horrible

The girl who did it should be sued personally. Maybe that will send a message. Should also be an automatic red card and banned from playing in next game.

"sued"? Really? Just a silly statement.

The defender being sued is quite unlikely. However if you look at football as a parallel -- after serious injuries I would say it is quite possible that the school or coach could be sued. This has been done successfully several times after head to head contact.

Suing the kid would fail because her defense would likely be that "this is what we are taught". However, the coach/school doesn't have the same defense. Like in football, every minute of practice film would likely be suppoenaed and if there are multiple incidents of girls cross checking from behind, that could be the ballgame.

Remember the Everson family has vast resources and could likely use them to go after SB/Spallina, regardless of whether they will likely win. Personally, I think SB will likely try to settle this thing out of court ASAP


Honestly I am the only who has watched the video and did not think the foul was that bad. If the player did not get hurt its something you see in almost every womens lacrosse game on multiple occasions. Hope the kid is alright but but suing someone is ridiculous.

Agreed. 100%. It was not malicious and the talk of suing over this is completely ridiculous. It was an unfortunate injury and the focus should be on the rules and enforcement of the rules. This type of injury HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. A few years back a Stanford player had the exact same thing happen.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – March 6



The Top 5 stayed put in Week 2 of the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll, with Middlebury, Tufts, TCNJ and Washington and Lee all remaining undefeated.

Franklin & Marshall jumped two spots into the sixth position after picking up two wins last week, while Wesleyan bumped into the 10th spot after a convincing win over Bates.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (1 - 0) 748 (28) 1
2 Tufts (1 - 0) 717 (1) 2
3 TCNJ (2 - 0) 679 3
4 Washington and Lee (5 - 0) 670 (1) 4
5 Salisbury (4 - 1) 625 5
6 Franklin & Marshall (2 - 1) 560 8
7 Colby (0 - 2) 555 6
8 William Smith (2 - 0) 537 9
9 Gettysburg (2 - 2) 514 7
10 Wesleyan (1 - 0) 455 11
11 York (1 - 1) 414 12
12 Ithaca (2 - 1) 413 10
13 Cortland (1 - 1) 376 14
14 Messiah (2 - 1) 349 13
15 St. Lawrence (0 - 0) 304 15
16 Bowdoin (1 - 0) 297 16
17 Chicago (2 - 0) 291 17
18 Roanoke (4 - 0) 222 20
19 Trinity (1 - 0) 178 21
20 Pomona-Pitzer (4 - 0) 151 22
21 Catholic (1 - 3) 137 18
22 Hamilton (0 - 1) 130 19
23 Geneseo (1 - 0) 115 23
24 Amherst (1 - 0) 74 NR
25 Haverford (2 - 1) 47 25
RV Dickinson, Denison, St. John Fisher, Colorado College, Kenyon
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you guys kidding me? Talking about suing. This is what happens in the everybody gets a trophy society. Parents become soft as ….

If you have read the mom's social media posting, you will know a lawsuit is not far-fetched. Right or wrong, I will be shocked if SB doesn't settle very soon. Otherwise, there will be a major cloud over the entire athletics program for a long time.

Also, remember it took well more than an hour for an ambulance to get there, so regardless of how flagrant you think the cross-check was, SB is still facing some very real liability. I actually think the AD will likely be fired over this.

Going forward, Spallina should teach his defenders only to cheap shot players who don't have rich well-connected parents.


No ambulance being available for an hour and a half is a 10x bigger deal than the cheap shot. If there is a lawsuit (and I agree there will be), it should be over this.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – March 6



UIndy took over the top slot in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll in Week 3, jumping six spots after picking up a 12-11 win over No. 2 Tampa on Saturday, dropping the Spartans to No. 4 in this week's poll.

Florida Southern and West Chester each bumped up one spot to No. 2 and No. 3, respectively, while Tampa dropped to No. 4 and Le Moyne stayed put at No. 5.

East Stroudsburg dropped from No. 1 into the eighth-ranked position after falling to No. 6 Pace 16-6.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 UIndy (6 - 0) 658 (10) 7
2 Florida Southern (5 - 0) 655 (10) 3
3 West Chester (3 - 0) 647 (5) 4
4 Tampa (5 - 1) 627 (1) 2
5 Le Moyne (2 - 0) 596 5
6 Pace (2 - 0) 516 (1) 13
7 Regis (CO) (4 - 0) 510 8
8 East Stroudsburg (1 - 1) 508 (1) 1
9 Adelphi (1 - 2) 493 6
10 Rollins (5 - 0) 474 9
11 Grand Valley (2 - 2) 397 10
12 Wingate (4 - 1) 393 12
13 Mercy (2 - 2) 383 11
14 Lynn (4 - 1) 327 14
15 Flagler (3 - 1) 306 15
16 Assumption (2 - 1) 295 16
17 Seton Hill (2 - 1) 239 17
18 Embry-Riddle (3 - 1) 200 19
19 New Haven (1 - 0) 199 18
20 Saint Leo (3 - 0) 189 20
21 Mercyhurst (2 - 0) 113 21
22 Bentley (2 - 1) 100 22
23 Mount Olive (1 - 3) 67 23
24 Colorado Mesa (0 - 1) 61 24
25 Saint Anselm (3 - 0) 34 NR
RV Roberts Wesleyan, Lee, Alabama Hunstville, Lander, Bloomsburg
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – March 6



After a dominant 16-5 win over Boston College last Friday, the Tar Heels earned 23 first-place votes in Week 4 of the ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll.

Syracuse and Northwestern followed again in the second and third spots respectively, while Stony Brook jumped two spots to fourth. Boston College dropped to fifth.

Other significant jumps inside the Top 10 include No. 6 Denver shifting up three spots and No. 8 James Madison jumping four after both teams beat Maryland this week. The Terps dropped six spots into the 11th-ranked position.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (5 - 0) 574 (23) 1
2 Syracuse (6 - 0) 552 (1) 2
3 Northwestern (5 - 1) 529 3
4 Stony Brook (4 - 0) 487 6
5 Boston College (3 - 2) 469 4
6 Denver (6 - 0) 439 9
7 Loyola (4 - 0) 421 8
8 James Madison (5 - 1) 401 12
9 Virginia (6 - 0) 397 10
10 Florida (3 - 2) 392 7
11 Maryland (3 - 3) 359 5
12 Notre Dame (4 - 1) 338 13
13 Duke (4 - 2) 267 11
14 Army (5 - 0) 258 16
15 Yale (3 - 1) 248 22
16 Princeton (2 - 2) 186 15
17 Rutgers (3 - 2) 185 14
18 Stanford (2 - 3) 158 17
19 Michigan (4 - 3) 147 21
20 USC (4 - 1) 146 19
21 Penn (3 - 1) 133 23
22 Jacksonville (2 - 3) 70 24
23 Johns Hopkins (2 - 3) 66 19
24 UMass (5 - 1) 63 25
25 Richmond (4 - 1) 52 18
RV Navy, Penn State, Drexel, Towson, UConn
The hospital is across the street. How is this SB JS or team /AD fault that it took 1.5 hrs for an ambulance? Does Yale not have a coach or trainer ? Where is their responsibility in this? Put her in a car and go. Call an Uber. It’s all ridiculously spun out of control. What about the flagrant intentional malicious slander/libel/defamation against the defender by wealthy adults with social media power? The C-suite ladies with zero lacrosse knowledge calling for the lynching and assassinating the character of an essential child? Nobody knows that this was intentional or with malice. What is malicious and retaliatory are the actions of the parent slandering the defender. If you are concerned about safety, surely there are less bullying ways to get your concerns noted. These actions happen every single game and practice on every D1 field.

Devils advocate - what about all the dangerous shots and reckless behind the back goals and attempts that can concuss a girl or land straight in their chest causing cardiac arrest because the attacker is not looking? Why is that allowed/nobody decrying that? Maybe bubble suits are next.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you guys kidding me? Talking about suing. This is what happens in the everybody gets a trophy society. Parents become soft as ….

When your daughter gets her kidney split open while she’s defenseless by an an aggressive illegal crosscheck maybe you would have a different attitude. Girl could have died, and this was no accident. I’m sure the player didn’t want to put the girl in the hospital, but she acted in a reckless manor and it caused a great deal of harm. There needs to be accountability.

My daughter decided to leave drama club and went into athletics. Things happen on the field. I had a son who played hockey. His head was rammed head first into a board Stantion by the bench. He was taken to the hospital. out for half a season. We didn’t call Saul Goodman while we were sitting in the hospital. Or for the next poster, we didn’t post anything on social media either.
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Julia Gilbert – University of Denver

Gilbert led No. 9 Denver to two top-25 wins over No. 21 Michigan and No. 5 Maryland this past week. She recorded a combined five goals on nine shots and added one ground ball. Both matchups came down to the wire as the Pioneers defeated the Wolverines 7-5 and the Terrapins 8-7. Denver has climbed to No. 6 in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division I Poll.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Jenna Collignon – Yale University

Collignon, a sophomore attacker, guided No. 22 Yale to its first win over No. 15 Princeton since 2007, taking down the Tigers 15-10. Collignon registered six goals, one assist and one draw control in the matchup. The win sent Yale to the No. 15 slot in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division I Poll.

Defensive Player of the Week

Kat Buchanan – James Madison University

The senior goalkeeper set a career-high 10 saves against No. 5 Maryland, recording a .588 save percentage. She made another six saves and allowed just six goals against Ohio State to give JMU its fifth straight win of the season. She tallied a .552 save percentage for the week and led the team in ground balls for the week as well. Buchanan was also named American Athletic Conference Goalkeeper of the Week as her opponents were held to 7.0 goals per game (26.9%) shooting.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Angelina Porcello – Pace University

Porcello led No. 13 Pace in its 16-6 victory over No. 1 East Stroudsburg University in a stunning upset. She accounted for six points on five goals and one assist, while tallying four ground balls, eight draw controls and one caused turnover in the big win for the Setters. In the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division III Poll, Pace shifted up seven spots and now sits at the No. 6 position.

Defensive Player of the Week

Jolie Urraro – Pace University

The senior attacker had seven ground balls and three caused turnovers to help No. 13 Pace defeat No. 1 East Stroudsburg, 16-6. She also scored four goals and had two assists.
DIVISION III


Offensive Player of the Week

Lauren Mills – Oberlin College

In a 10-9 overtime win at John Carroll, Mills posted four points on three goals and one assist to go along with four ground balls, four draw controls and two caused turnovers. She followed that effort with a career-high eight points with four goals and four assists in a 22-19 win over Hope College. Mills added five draw controls, two ground balls, and two caused turnovers in the two-goal victory.

Defensive Player of the Week

Ashley MacFarlane – Shenandoah University

The senior goalkeeper led Shenandoah to its first-ever win at Christopher Newport, taking down the Captains 13-9. She made 13 saves and added two caused turnovers and three ground balls to the match.
A few interesting games on Tuesday (3/7), but nothing too fool.

Coastal Carolina vs Boston U was the first time the teams had ever played. Coastal lead the entire game and pulled off a good win (13-9). BU appears to be improved, but the early season games were against weak competition.

Central Michigan had a solid win over Duquesne and CMU's goalie (former Monster Elite player) had 18 saves in that game. The new head coach (former assistant at Michigan) is doing a good job and the previous coach had done a great job of recruiting East Coast kids. They will be fun.

Cinci vs Davidson went into OT--the game was fairly back-and-forth, but Cinci managed to pull off a nice shot at the end to win it 13-12.

Vermont vs Harvard was a snooze fest. The Ivy schools aren't lighting the world on fire by any stretch this year.

Wednesday's slate is ok, but nothing too fool IMO.
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US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.

So we all know that SB promotes thug ball, as do certain club teams. Now a girl has a critical injury due to an intention to harm. This is unacceptable. I don’t want to hear that it was an accident. When you cross check it is intentional. Girls do not wear protective gear, and women’s lacrosse is supposed to be non contact. This needs to end before something even worse happens. Come on refs, you need to enforce this type of play. Just horrible

The girl who did it should be sued personally. Maybe that will send a message. Should also be an automatic red card and banned from playing in next game.

"sued"? Really? Just a silly statement.

The defender being sued is quite unlikely. However if you look at football as a parallel -- after serious injuries I would say it is quite possible that the school or coach could be sued. This has been done successfully several times after head to head contact.

Suing the kid would fail because her defense would likely be that "this is what we are taught". However, the coach/school doesn't have the same defense. Like in football, every minute of practice film would likely be suppoenaed and if there are multiple incidents of girls cross checking from behind, that could be the ballgame.

Remember the Everson family has vast resources and could likely use them to go after SB/Spallina, regardless of whether they will likely win. Personally, I think SB will likely try to settle this thing out of court ASAP


Honestly I am the only who has watched the video and did not think the foul was that bad. If the player did not get hurt its something you see in almost every womens lacrosse game on multiple occasions. Hope the kid is alright but but suing someone is ridiculous.

Nope.Didn’t look like much. 1st off. This wasn’t malicious. People are acting like this was a cheap shot after the play and whatnot. For those that need to see and can make their own thoughts google the girls name and injury. You’ll see her moms Instagram post. Sometimes things can happen. It didn’t look like much but it hit her in a way that split her kidney. Speedy recovery but nothing needs to come of this except a review why it took the girl 1 1/2 hours to get to the hospital.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few interesting games on Tuesday (3/7), but nothing too fool.

Coastal Carolina vs Boston U was the first time the teams had ever played. Coastal lead the entire game and pulled off a good win (13-9). BU appears to be improved, but the early season games were against weak competition.

Central Michigan had a solid win over Duquesne and CMU's goalie (former Monster Elite player) had 18 saves in that game. The new head coach (former assistant at Michigan) is doing a good job and the previous coach had done a great job of recruiting East Coast kids. They will be fun.

Cinci vs Davidson went into OT--the game was fairly back-and-forth, but Cinci managed to pull off a nice shot at the end to win it 13-12.

Vermont vs Harvard was a snooze fest. The Ivy schools aren't lighting the world on fire by any stretch this year.

Wednesday's slate is ok, but nothing too fool IMO.

Watch for Coastal to get good fast as long as coach stays. My daughter (a 25) worked with her at a recent camp. Said she was the most charismatic coach she had ever met. Said girls who couldn't find Coastal on a map have starting writing letters and have it on their top 10 lists.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few interesting games on Tuesday (3/7), but nothing too fool.

Coastal Carolina vs Boston U was the first time the teams had ever played. Coastal lead the entire game and pulled off a good win (13-9). BU appears to be improved, but the early season games were against weak competition.

Central Michigan had a solid win over Duquesne and CMU's goalie (former Monster Elite player) had 18 saves in that game. The new head coach (former assistant at Michigan) is doing a good job and the previous coach had done a great job of recruiting East Coast kids. They will be fun.

Cinci vs Davidson went into OT--the game was fairly back-and-forth, but Cinci managed to pull off a nice shot at the end to win it 13-12.

Vermont vs Harvard was a snooze fest. The Ivy schools aren't lighting the world on fire by any stretch this year.

Wednesday's slate is ok, but nothing too fool IMO.

Watch for Coastal to get good fast as long as coach stays. My daughter (a 25) worked with her at a recent camp. Said she was the most charismatic coach she had ever met. Said girls who couldn't find Coastal on a map have starting writing letters and have it on their top 10 lists.

Everybody’s experience is different.
My daughter was interested in Coastal. 1st trip there last year was not good. Camp was disorganized. Happened to be there in the fall this year during another camp. Sue went. Had a much better time. Think she liked the assistant coaches better. I will say this. Both times the talent level was not great.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few interesting games on Tuesday (3/7), but nothing too fool.

Coastal Carolina vs Boston U was the first time the teams had ever played. Coastal lead the entire game and pulled off a good win (13-9). BU appears to be improved, but the early season games were against weak competition.

Central Michigan had a solid win over Duquesne and CMU's goalie (former Monster Elite player) had 18 saves in that game. The new head coach (former assistant at Michigan) is doing a good job and the previous coach had done a great job of recruiting East Coast kids. They will be fun.

Cinci vs Davidson went into OT--the game was fairly back-and-forth, but Cinci managed to pull off a nice shot at the end to win it 13-12.

Vermont vs Harvard was a snooze fest. The Ivy schools aren't lighting the world on fire by any stretch this year.

Wednesday's slate is ok, but nothing too fool IMO.

Watch for Coastal to get good fast as long as coach stays. My daughter (a 25) worked with her at a recent camp. Said she was the most charismatic coach she had ever met. Said girls who couldn't find Coastal on a map have starting writing letters and have it on their top 10 lists.

Everybody’s experience is different.
My daughter was interested in Coastal. 1st trip there last year was not good. Camp was disorganized. Happened to be there in the fall this year during another camp. Sue went. Had a much better time. Think she liked the assistant coaches better. I will say this. Both times the talent level was not great.

"Coastal Carolina, we're at the beach" No, Conway, SC is not the beach.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few interesting games on Tuesday (3/7), but nothing too fool.

Coastal Carolina vs Boston U was the first time the teams had ever played. Coastal lead the entire game and pulled off a good win (13-9). BU appears to be improved, but the early season games were against weak competition.

Central Michigan had a solid win over Duquesne and CMU's goalie (former Monster Elite player) had 18 saves in that game. The new head coach (former assistant at Michigan) is doing a good job and the previous coach had done a great job of recruiting East Coast kids. They will be fun.

Cinci vs Davidson went into OT--the game was fairly back-and-forth, but Cinci managed to pull off a nice shot at the end to win it 13-12.

Vermont vs Harvard was a snooze fest. The Ivy schools aren't lighting the world on fire by any stretch this year.

Wednesday's slate is ok, but nothing too fool IMO.

Watch for Coastal to get good fast as long as coach stays. My daughter (a 25) worked with her at a recent camp. Said she was the most charismatic coach she had ever met. Said girls who couldn't find Coastal on a map have starting writing letters and have it on their top 10 lists.

Everybody’s experience is different.
My daughter was interested in Coastal. 1st trip there last year was not good. Camp was disorganized. Happened to be there in the fall this year during another camp. Sue went. Had a much better time. Think she liked the assistant coaches better. I will say this. Both times the talent level was not great.

"Coastal Carolina, we're at the beach" No, Conway, SC is not the beach.

In fairness. It is 20 minutes away and the kids go a lot
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
US lacrosse has to really think about having many re education classes. I know the Yale cross check incident is going to start to bring this situation to a much talked about topic


Being a referee isn’t easy and will never be perfect.

I think we all know there are judgement calls that are tough and happen quick. Let them be the exception.

-toeing the line in 8M and on the draw are easy stopped ball calls. If you can’t see a persons foot on the line you shouldn’t be reffing anyway. Call it and it will stop..it should be a point of emphasis

-on the draw opening your head, or pulling your shaft back off not vertical parallel from center linen or having foot on center line-again your 5 feet from the play you need to call it

-LASTLY-if the refs start call cradling in the sphere. YES this is rule. If you cradle 6 inches from your face and a player can check it legally it is an immediate call and turnover. Have you seen it once??? Watch games. It is done none stop…you would be amazed if called how many clean turnovers would happen by defenders, attackers and draw takers. How about free positions. They bring it right to their face. This is a rule.

These are little things that are easy calls that are missed all game. Oh forget Flopping or grabbing your head-review all of these to stop this.

So we all know that SB promotes thug ball, as do certain club teams. Now a girl has a critical injury due to an intention to harm. This is unacceptable. I don’t want to hear that it was an accident. When you cross check it is intentional. Girls do not wear protective gear, and women’s lacrosse is supposed to be non contact. This needs to end before something even worse happens. Come on refs, you need to enforce this type of play. Just horrible

The girl who did it should be sued personally. Maybe that will send a message. Should also be an automatic red card and banned from playing in next game.

"sued"? Really? Just a silly statement.

The defender being sued is quite unlikely. However if you look at football as a parallel -- after serious injuries I would say it is quite possible that the school or coach could be sued. This has been done successfully several times after head to head contact.

Suing the kid would fail because her defense would likely be that "this is what we are taught". However, the coach/school doesn't have the same defense. Like in football, every minute of practice film would likely be suppoenaed and if there are multiple incidents of girls cross checking from behind, that could be the ballgame.

Remember the Everson family has vast resources and could likely use them to go after SB/Spallina, regardless of whether they will likely win. Personally, I think SB will likely try to settle this thing out of court ASAP


Honestly I am the only who has watched the video and did not think the foul was that bad. If the player did not get hurt its something you see in almost every womens lacrosse game on multiple occasions. Hope the kid is alright but but suing someone is ridiculous.

Nope.Didn’t look like much. 1st off. This wasn’t malicious. People are acting like this was a cheap shot after the play and whatnot. For those that need to see and can make their own thoughts google the girls name and injury. You’ll see her moms Instagram post. Sometimes things can happen. It didn’t look like much but it hit her in a way that split her kidney. Speedy recovery but nothing needs to come of this except a review why it took the girl 1 1/2 hours to get to the hospital.

I think if this was your daughter, you would feel differently. A cross check into an attacker's back as she is in the shooting motion with the ball nearly out of her stick is "not malicious"? Are you kidding? The defender was beaten and got a cheap shot in on her back. Attacker was completely defenseless. Stony Brook better call Saul. Completely disagree that this is a normal play in the women's game.

Not a SB fan at all. They do play like thugs, JS screaming his way to calls by the refs, the worst floppers in the game. That being said, what video are you even watching? The girl who got hurt is running towards the goal circle while picking up a loose ball. By the time she gains control and starts to look up she runs right into a defender either originally going for GB or getting into defensive space, they collided head on. There was no cheap shot in the back, defender was not beat in the least. And I agree with everyone else, just an unfortunate accident. No foul was even called by the refs, you see much worse a dozen times in every game you watch. The lawyer up mentality in society today is so sad to see.
I think if this was your daughter, you would feel differently. A cross check into an attacker's back as she is in the shooting motion with the ball nearly out of her stick is "not malicious"? Are you kidding? The defender was beaten and got a cheap shot in on her back. Attacker was completely defenseless. Stony Brook better call Saul. Completely disagree that this is a normal play in the women's game.
Sorry but I still dont see what you are describing, did you watch the video? Looks like she makes contact about the time the ball is released and its not in the back . I see a loose ball and player picking it up and shooting and a defender being moving as fast as they can to disrupt the shot . To say the defender was giving a cheap shot because she got beat is ridiculous . Yes its a foul but not even sure it deserves a yellow card. Hopefully the kid makes a full recovery but to go after the defender the way some are is just pathetic.I think if the defender were your daughter you would feel differently.
"Coastal Carolina, we're at the beach" No, Conway, SC is not the beach.[/quote]

In fairness. It is 20 minutes away and the kids go a lot[/quote]


Funny, my 2025 daughter gets home from school and shows me the Coastal Instagram. They were on the beach yesterday hanging out. She goes, “yep. I think Coastal’s back in the mix.” 😬
Stony Brook had a real tough time keeping up with Northwestern. Only one SB player able to get anything done. Lots of yellows too. Izzy is just unreal and fun to watch!
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I think if this was your daughter, you would feel differently. A cross check into an attacker's back as she is in the shooting motion with the ball nearly out of her stick is "not malicious"? Are you kidding? The defender was beaten and got a cheap shot in on her back. Attacker was completely defenseless. Stony Brook better call Saul. Completely disagree that this is a normal play in the women's game.
Sorry but I still dont see what you are describing, did you watch the video? Looks like she makes contact about the time the ball is released and its not in the back . I see a loose ball and player picking it up and shooting and a defender being moving as fast as they can to disrupt the shot . To say the defender was giving a cheap shot because she got beat is ridiculous . Yes its a foul but not even sure it deserves a yellow card. Hopefully the kid makes a full recovery but to go after the defender the way some are is just pathetic.I think if the defender were your daughter you would feel differently.

My options on this

1) Was it a foul? Clearly yes
2) Was it Malicious? No reason to believe that it is
3) Should it have been a card? By the rules, yes. But many similar things are not called.
4) The ambulance situation is completely undependable, especially when a hospital is so close. While not JS's fault someone's head should roll in athletic department.

However, what rubs a lot of people the wrong way, including me, is the StonyBrook's lack of empathy for the situation. No get well soon messages. No Acknowledge at all. JS's press conference saying they didn't have a killer instinct post-game was one of the most tone deaf things I have ever seen.
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"Coastal Carolina, we're at the beach" No, Conway, SC is not the beach.

In fairness. It is 20 minutes away and the kids go a lot[/quote]


Funny, my 2025 daughter gets home from school and shows me the Coastal Instagram. They were on the beach yesterday hanging out. She goes, “yep. I think Coastal’s back in the mix.” 😬[/quote]

I’m assuming it was the spring break video? They did a great job with that one—the AD is providing the staff for videos and seems to be supporting the program.

The coaching staff is solid and you do have two Northwestern grads coaching there. (I’m sure Jill Girardi is a draw as a recent grad and pro.) The HC played at Loyola (Maryland) with the new HC at Jacksonville. Full disclosure—I’ve met them all and they strike me as good people that will take care of your daughter (they are big on healthy team culture).

While the camp may have drawn some players that weren’t as good, the coaches are picking up good recruits that can play. If they can continue to find success I think you’ll see better recruits come on board. Success breeds interest.

Visiting and spending time at the beach? Twist my arm as a parent—beats hanging out around Rutgers or up in the snow in Vermont or NH for a game day.
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Sorry but I still dont see what you are describing, did you watch the video? Looks like she makes contact about the time the ball is released and its not in the back . I see a loose ball and player picking it up and shooting and a defender being moving as fast as they can to disrupt the shot . To say the defender was giving a cheap shot because she got beat is ridiculous . Yes its a foul but not even sure it deserves a yellow card. Hopefully the kid makes a full recovery but to go after the defender the way some are is just pathetic.I think if the defender were your daughter you would feel differently.
I'm the last person to defend SB because I always think they are super overrated, but I digress... But agree with the above. I watched the video and had the girl not been hurt, no one would have thought twice about the contact. Granted I'm watching one angle from a video clip, but it doesn't look malicious at all. Very unfortunate result, and SB probably could address and send some sympathy to Yale and the player, but other than that, it doesn't appear to be egregious.
Is this finally the impetus for a change at Duke?
Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s
Not that much chat about SB/NW on here, likely because not that many folks could see it for free.

SB played well and Masera had a great game, especially on the draw circle. But the gap in talent was pretty clear. Doesn't feel like this is the year they can break through and made the final four. Most likely looking at a 7,8, or 9 seed this year so any quarterfinal loss against a top team is likely.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
As long as we see Duke tank it’s all good , got to love that their super star AA cost them the game .It’s a CT blessing for Duke they play such a weak non conference schedule but ultimately they should be left out of the NCAA tournament
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"Coastal Carolina, we're at the beach" No, Conway, SC is not the beach.

In fairness. It is 20 minutes away and the kids go a lot


Funny, my 2025 daughter gets home from school and shows me the Coastal Instagram. They were on the beach yesterday hanging out. She goes, “yep. I think Coastal’s back in the mix.” 😬[/quote]

I’m assuming it was the spring break video? They did a great job with that one—the AD is providing the staff for videos and seems to be supporting the program.

The coaching staff is solid and you do have two Northwestern grads coaching there. (I’m sure Jill Girardi is a draw as a recent grad and pro.) The HC played at Loyola (Maryland) with the new HC at Jacksonville. Full disclosure—I’ve met them all and they strike me as good people that will take care of your daughter (they are big on healthy team culture).

While the camp may have drawn some players that weren’t as good, the coaches are picking up good recruits that can play. If they can continue to find success I think you’ll see better recruits come on board. Success breeds interest.

Visiting and spending time at the beach? Twist my arm as a parent—beats hanging out around Rutgers or up in the snow in Vermont or NH for a game day.[/quote]

Yes it was the spring break video. I’m not happy about it because I think there are better schools that my daughter can attend with her grades and playing abilities. And I am talking specifically about the school. I can care less about the level of lacrosse. But for now Coastal is back in the top 5. Very hard for a 15 year old to see the forest through the trees.
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"Coastal Carolina, we're at the beach" No, Conway, SC is not the beach.

In fairness. It is 20 minutes away and the kids go a lot


Funny, my 2025 daughter gets home from school and shows me the Coastal Instagram. They were on the beach yesterday hanging out. She goes, “yep. I think Coastal’s back in the mix.” 😬[/quote]

I’m assuming it was the spring break video? They did a great job with that one—the AD is providing the staff for videos and seems to be supporting the program.

The coaching staff is solid and you do have two Northwestern grads coaching there. (I’m sure Jill Girardi is a draw as a recent grad and pro.) The HC played at Loyola (Maryland) with the new HC at Jacksonville. Full disclosure—I’ve met them all and they strike me as good people that will take care of your daughter (they are big on healthy team culture).

While the camp may have drawn some players that weren’t as good, the coaches are picking up good recruits that can play. If they can continue to find success I think you’ll see better recruits come on board. Success breeds interest.

Visiting and spending time at the beach? Twist my arm as a parent—beats hanging out around Rutgers or up in the snow in Vermont or NH for a game day.[/quote]

Yes it was the spring break video. I’m not happy about it because I think there are better schools that my daughter can attend with her grades and playing abilities. And I am talking specifically about the school. I can care less about the level of lacrosse. But for now Coastal is back in the top 5. Very hard for a 15 year old to see the forest through the trees.
How about Syracuse losing their draw girl yesteday. Injury looked painful. Shes the leading draw player in D1
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Not that much chat about SB/NW on here, likely because not that many folks could see it for free.

SB played well and Masera had a great game, especially on the draw circle. But the gap in talent was pretty clear. Doesn't feel like this is the year they can break through and made the final four. Most likely looking at a 7,8, or 9 seed this year so any quarterfinal loss against a top team is likely.

Not much chat because there was not much to chat about. NU won, no surprise there and no need to talk about seeds, Final Four, Quarter Finals etc... way too early and a lot of lacrosse to be played.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).
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Not that much chat about SB/NW on here, likely because not that many folks could see it for free.

SB played well and Masera had a great game, especially on the draw circle. But the gap in talent was pretty clear. Doesn't feel like this is the year they can break through and made the final four. Most likely looking at a 7,8, or 9 seed this year so any quarterfinal loss against a top team is likely.

Not much chat because there was not much to chat about. NU won, no surprise there and no need to talk about seeds, Final Four, Quarter Finals etc... way too early and a lot of lacrosse to be played.

In addition to that, the cream of the crop of the best high school players are spread between 5 schools. UNC, BC, CUSE, MD, and NW. Of the top 25 players, 3 to 5 players committ to one of those schools, with the being spread among other top 25 D1 schools.

With the growth of the sport, the overall talent pool is deeper yes. But the best of the best will still go to those 5 programs. So parity is concetrated more among the middle tier to low tier D1 programs. Even among the those top 5 schools, Maryland is starting to fall behind the others and UNC is getting stronger.
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Is this finally the impetus for a change at Duke?
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Is this finally the impetus for a change at Duke?

I don’t think they make any changes, even though the game has evolved and Duke has found themselves behind the curve.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).

Tend to agree with you. People excited that they beat Duke, who is grossly overrated. Look at Dukes schedule. They try to ride on the reputation of the men’s team. Anytime they play a good team, they get destroyed. The stat padding is a joke. When Clemson is competitive with UNC, Cuse, we can start the conversation of how legit they are.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).


Let's remember that this Clemson team is built through grad transfers, something new programs prior to 2020 didn't have access to. 2 best players are grad transfer from Oregon and Davidson. This won't be a sustainable model once Covid extra eligibility ends.

I anticipate them being a solid mid-tier ACC team who makes the tourney more often than not. However, probably many years off before they seriously contend.
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Is this finally the impetus for a change at Duke?
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Is this finally the impetus for a change at Duke?

I don’t think they make any changes, even though the game has evolved and Duke has found themselves behind the curve.

I think it's less about the game changing and more about this generation of athletes not wanting to play in a draconian militaristic culture.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).

Tend to agree with you. People excited that they beat Duke, who is grossly overrated. Look at Dukes schedule. They try to ride on the reputation of the men’s team. Anytime they play a good team, they get destroyed. The stat padding is a joke. When Clemson is competitive with UNC, Cuse, we can start the conversation of how legit they are.

I detest Duke like most but they did go 6-2 last year in the acc and beat Boston college and lost to Syracuse by 2. They did get blown up by north carolina(who didn’t) and had a bad loss in the tournament but just because they play local in the “preseason” isn’t a reason to detest them. Let’s get back to hating them because they are Duke. My original point about Clemson stands. Their transfers will continue to be solid as the school is very attractive, their coach built a winning program at a school 1/10 the size at Richmond, and they are in South Carolina where the average winter temp is 55. Looking at their recruits for 23 and 24 and they are competitive to any of the top 10 programs. Not saying they will win a national championship in the next 5 years but think they are taking Floridas model and putting it on steroids and look to be top 10 consistently in the next 5 years is my opinion.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).

Tend to agree with you. People excited that they beat Duke, who is grossly overrated. Look at Dukes schedule. They try to ride on the reputation of the men’s team. Anytime they play a good team, they get destroyed. The stat padding is a joke. When Clemson is competitive with UNC, Cuse, we can start the conversation of how legit they are.

I detest Duke like most but they did go 6-2 last year in the acc and beat Boston college and lost to Syracuse by 2. They did get blown up by north carolina(who didn’t) and had a bad loss in the tournament but just because they play local in the “preseason” isn’t a reason to detest them. Let’s get back to hating them because they are Duke. My original point about Clemson stands. Their transfers will continue to be solid as the school is very attractive, their coach built a winning program at a school 1/10 the size at Richmond, and they are in South Carolina where the average winter temp is 55. Looking at their recruits for 23 and 24 and they are competitive to any of the top 10 programs. Not saying they will win a national championship in the next 5 years but think they are taking Floridas model and putting it on steroids and look to be top 10 consistently in the next 5 years is my opinion.

Wow! Top 10 consistently in the next 5 years, time will tell but don't see that happening. The influx of 5th year transfers this year helps them but that will not continue so they will be competing with the top programs for top talent. There is only so much talent to go around so which top 10 program will Clemson displace in order to consistently be top 10?
I was the OP on Clemson. I didn’t say they were going to challenge the top ACC this year or next. All I said was after beating Duke they will be ranked top 25. They hit 24. Obviously gonna be years before they can beat teams like Syracuse or UNC. My point was how fast they went into the top 25.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).

Tend to agree with you. People excited that they beat Duke, who is grossly overrated. Look at Dukes schedule. They try to ride on the reputation of the men’s team. Anytime they play a good team, they get destroyed. The stat padding is a joke. When Clemson is competitive with UNC, Cuse, we can start the conversation of how legit they are.

I detest Duke like most but they did go 6-2 last year in the acc and beat Boston college and lost to Syracuse by 2. They did get blown up by north carolina(who didn’t) and had a bad loss in the tournament but just because they play local in the “preseason” isn’t a reason to detest them. Let’s get back to hating them because they are Duke. My original point about Clemson stands. Their transfers will continue to be solid as the school is very attractive, their coach built a winning program at a school 1/10 the size at Richmond, and they are in South Carolina where the average winter temp is 55. Looking at their recruits for 23 and 24 and they are competitive to any of the top 10 programs. Not saying they will win a national championship in the next 5 years but think they are taking Floridas model and putting it on steroids and look to be top 10 consistently in the next 5 years is my opinion.

First off no one cares or comments on who Duke plays preseason ,what they detest is the fact that Duke plays against teams that are completely over matched during the season in all their non conference games and run up their stats . They do this to try and sneak into the Ncaa tournament by having an overall decent record while "playing" in the ACC and pad their players stats so they can get post season awards. Other teams play a highly competitive non conference schedule many times putting their NCAA tournament on the line doing so.
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I was the OP on Clemson. I didn’t say they were going to challenge the top ACC this year or next. All I said was after beating Duke they will be ranked top 25. They hit 24. Obviously gonna be years before they can beat teams like Syracuse or UNC. My point was how fast they went into the top 25.

Had some time to kill and was curious how teams actually have performed in recent years.

Looked at 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2022 (did not look at 2020 or 2021 because of covid modifications).

There were a total of 20 teams that ended up ranked in the "Top 10" in the final poll during that span.

Below are the only teams to finish the season ranked in the Top 10 at the end of the season and their average rank for that time span. If a team was not ranked in the Top 20 a final ranking of 25 was used to calculate their average.

1 - Maryland - 2
2 - North Carolina - 3
3 - Boston College - 5
4 - Stony Brook - 7
5 - Northwestern - 8
6 - Florida - 8
7 - Syracuse - 9
8 - Princeton - 9
9 - Virginia - 13
10 - Penn - 14
11 - James Madison - 14
12 - Notre Dame - 15
13 - Penn State
14 - USC - 15
15 - Navy - 16
16 - Loyola - 16
17 - Denver - 17
18 - Stanford - 19
19 - Towson - 21
20 - Rutgers - 22

Obviously the usual suspect are at the top. Teams that appear to be on the upswing Denver, Loyola, maybe Rutgers. Teams that have fallen off a bit: Penn State, Navy, Towson. COVID may have hurt Penn. Duke not in the mix.

Not out of line to say the above are 20 of the "Best" Programs. Maybe a few not listed that could be considered a Top 20 Program. Michigan, Duke, any others??

I wish Clemson the best but just do not see them cracking that list of Top 10 programs anytime soon. Top 20 - 25 yes.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).

Tend to agree with you. People excited that they beat Duke, who is grossly overrated. Look at Dukes schedule. They try to ride on the reputation of the men’s team. Anytime they play a good team, they get destroyed. The stat padding is a joke. When Clemson is competitive with UNC, Cuse, we can start the conversation of how legit they are.

I detest Duke like most but they did go 6-2 last year in the acc and beat Boston college and lost to Syracuse by 2. They did get blown up by north carolina(who didn’t) and had a bad loss in the tournament but just because they play local in the “preseason” isn’t a reason to detest them. Let’s get back to hating them because they are Duke. My original point about Clemson stands. Their transfers will continue to be solid as the school is very attractive, their coach built a winning program at a school 1/10 the size at Richmond, and they are in South Carolina where the average winter temp is 55. Looking at their recruits for 23 and 24 and they are competitive to any of the top 10 programs. Not saying they will win a national championship in the next 5 years but think they are taking Floridas model and putting it on steroids and look to be top 10 consistently in the next 5 years is my opinion.

First off no one cares or comments on who Duke plays preseason ,what they detest is the fact that Duke plays against teams that are completely over matched during the season in all their non conference games and run up their stats . They do this to try and sneak into the Ncaa tournament by having an overall decent record while "playing" in the ACC and pad their players stats so they can get post season awards. Other teams play a highly competitive non conference schedule many times putting their NCAA tournament on the line doing so.

A 6-2 winning record in the acc should alone should get them in the tournament. As for non conference games, half of their out of conference schedule is identically to UNC, the other half unc played 3 top 25 teams and duke played 2. And mind you, UNC is the top team in the country and duke was 11-20. Again, I detest Duke but let’s not think there is some nefarious scheme.
UNC out conference has 3 top 10 teams.
Duke has none.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).

Tend to agree with you. People excited that they beat Duke, who is grossly overrated. Look at Dukes schedule. They try to ride on the reputation of the men’s team. Anytime they play a good team, they get destroyed. The stat padding is a joke. When Clemson is competitive with UNC, Cuse, we can start the conversation of how legit they are.

I detest Duke like most but they did go 6-2 last year in the acc and beat Boston college and lost to Syracuse by 2. They did get blown up by north carolina(who didn’t) and had a bad loss in the tournament but just because they play local in the “preseason” isn’t a reason to detest them. Let’s get back to hating them because they are Duke. My original point about Clemson stands. Their transfers will continue to be solid as the school is very attractive, their coach built a winning program at a school 1/10 the size at Richmond, and they are in South Carolina where the average winter temp is 55. Looking at their recruits for 23 and 24 and they are competitive to any of the top 10 programs. Not saying they will win a national championship in the next 5 years but think they are taking Floridas model and putting it on steroids and look to be top 10 consistently in the next 5 years is my opinion.

First off no one cares or comments on who Duke plays preseason ,what they detest is the fact that Duke plays against teams that are completely over matched during the season in all their non conference games and run up their stats . They do this to try and sneak into the Ncaa tournament by having an overall decent record while "playing" in the ACC and pad their players stats so they can get post season awards. Other teams play a highly competitive non conference schedule many times putting their NCAA tournament on the line doing so.

A 6-2 winning record in the acc should alone should get them in the tournament. As for non conference games, half of their out of conference schedule is identically to UNC, the other half unc played 3 top 25 teams and duke played 2. And mind you, UNC is the top team in the country and duke was 11-20. Again, I detest Duke but let’s not think there is some nefarious scheme.

First off lets see what those non-conference "ranked" teams are at the end of the year . Second I went back and looked and for the past two seasons Duke has played exactly 0 non conference teams that finish the year ranked at all. Those last two years of playing zero ranked teams came on the heels of a year in which they did not make the NCAA tournament in which they played multiple highly ranked non conference teams , coincidence , I think not.
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Think we will finally see Clemson in the top 25 this week. Took them five weeks to become a top 25. 😳
Think it is going to take a few years for Clemson to be a contender in the ACC but between the coaches, the new facility, and the campus, they are going to be very attractive for top talent and awesome transfers in the coming years. I also don’t recall a new team ever having a recruiting class like their incoming 23’s and 24’s

Most likely more than a few years before Clemson becomes a contender. Would be happy if any of my kids had the opportunity to attend Clemson and play for The Tigers but I believe it will be a while before they become competitive with the traditional top 10-20 programs. Even though the sport has grown we still do not see any real parity. There is a limited amount of talent and the top programs are for the most part all very good academic schools with a lot to offer in addition to competitive lacrosse. I think they have a good coach which is start but they still need to bring in the talent and apparently that is not so easy to do (Just ask the majority of coaches who rarely if ever crack the Top 20... that's about 95 coaches out of 120).

Tend to agree with you. People excited that they beat Duke, who is grossly overrated. Look at Dukes schedule. They try to ride on the reputation of the men’s team. Anytime they play a good team, they get destroyed. The stat padding is a joke. When Clemson is competitive with UNC, Cuse, we can start the conversation of how legit they are.

I detest Duke like most but they did go 6-2 last year in the acc and beat Boston college and lost to Syracuse by 2. They did get blown up by north carolina(who didn’t) and had a bad loss in the tournament but just because they play local in the “preseason” isn’t a reason to detest them. Let’s get back to hating them because they are Duke. My original point about Clemson stands. Their transfers will continue to be solid as the school is very attractive, their coach built a winning program at a school 1/10 the size at Richmond, and they are in South Carolina where the average winter temp is 55. Looking at their recruits for 23 and 24 and they are competitive to any of the top 10 programs. Not saying they will win a national championship in the next 5 years but think they are taking Floridas model and putting it on steroids and look to be top 10 consistently in the next 5 years is my opinion.

First off no one cares or comments on who Duke plays preseason ,what they detest is the fact that Duke plays against teams that are completely over matched during the season in all their non conference games and run up their stats . They do this to try and sneak into the Ncaa tournament by having an overall decent record while "playing" in the ACC and pad their players stats so they can get post season awards. Other teams play a highly competitive non conference schedule many times putting their NCAA tournament on the line doing so.

A 6-2 winning record in the acc should alone should get them in the tournament. As for non conference games, half of their out of conference schedule is identically to UNC, the other half unc played 3 top 25 teams and duke played 2. And mind you, UNC is the top team in the country and duke was 11-20. Again, I detest Duke but let’s not think there is some nefarious scheme.

First off lets see what those non-conference "ranked" teams are at the end of the year . Second I went back and looked and for the past two seasons Duke has played exactly 0 non conference teams that finish the year ranked at all. Those last two years of playing zero ranked teams came on the heels of a year in which they did not make the NCAA tournament in which they played multiple highly ranked non conference teams , coincidence , I think not.

So you want teams to be able to forecast which teams are going to be good after the year ends vs using their preseason expectations? You must be amazing at gambling and the stock market.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – March 13



Clemson makes its program debut in the Top 25, leaping into the No. 24 spot of the ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll. The first-year program makes its first appearance after pulling off an 11-10 upset over Duke.

The top three teams stayed put in Week 5, with No. 1 North Carolina and No. 2 Syracuse both remaining unbeaten through the early season. Florida jumped two spots this week after defeating Loyola.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (6 - 0) 599 (23) 1
2 Syracuse (7 - 0) 577 (1) 2
3 Northwestern (6 - 1) 552 3
4 Boston College (5 - 2) 508 5
5 Stony Brook (4 - 1) 498 4
6 Denver (7 - 0) 478 6
7 James Madison (7 - 1) 448 8
8 Florida (4 - 2) 432 10
9 Loyola (5 - 1) 396 7
10 Virginia (6 - 1) 394 9
11 Maryland (5 - 3) 368 11
12 Notre Dame (4 - 2) 338 12
13 Army (6 - 0) 291 14
14 Princeton (3 - 2) 245 16
15 Duke (4 - 3) 203 13
16 Yale (4 - 2) 202 15
17 Michigan (6 - 3) 201 19
18 USC (5 - 2) 153 20
19 Jacksonville (4 - 3) 143 22
20 UMass (6 - 1) 142 24
21 Stanford (3 - 3) 130 18
22 Rutgers (3 - 3) 98 17
23 Penn (3 - 2) 83 21
24 Clemson (7 - 2) 74 NR
25 Penn State (5 - 2) 61 NR
RV UConn, Johns Hopkins, Navy, Drexel, Richmond
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – March 13



UIndy earned 16 first-place votes in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll after earning a win over No. 11 Grand Valley to stay unbeaten. Florida Southern and West Chester earned five and two first-place votes, respectively, as they remain in the second and third slots.

While the top seven slots stayed locked in Week 4, East Stroudsburg dropped to No. 10 and Adelphi and Rollins jumped into the eighth and ninth positions, respectively.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 UIndy (7 - 0) 561 (16) 1
2 Florida Southern (7 - 0) 549 (5) 2
3 West Chester (4 - 0) 528 (2) 3
4 Tampa (6 - 1) 514 4
5 Le Moyne (4 - 0) 446 5
6 Pace (2 - 1) 444 6
7 Regis (CO) (4 - 0) 443 7
8 Adelphi (2 - 2) 400 9
9 Rollins (7 - 0) 386 10
10 East Stroudsburg (3 - 1) 359 8
11 Grand Valley (3 - 3) 348 11
12 Wingate (5 - 2) 322 12
13 Mercy (3 - 2) 294 13
14 Lynn (7 - 1) 290 14
15 Flagler (5 - 1) 240 15
16 Assumption (3 - 1) 229 16
17 Embry-Riddle (6 - 1) 197 18
18 Saint Leo (6 - 0) 180 20
19 Seton Hill (2 - 3) 158 17
20 New Haven (3 - 0) 146 19
21 Bentley (3 - 1) 92 22
22 Mercyhurst (2 - 1) 88 21
23 Saint Anselm (5 - 0) 61 25
24 Colorado Mesa (2 - 1) 53 24
25 Mount Olive (1 - 4) 43 23
RV Alabama Huntsville, Southern New Hampshire, Lee, Florida Tech, Maryville
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – March 13



No movement in the Top 5 carried into Week 3 of the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll, with Middlebury earning 24 first-place votes. Tufts and Washington and Lee both earned one first-place vote as well.

Franklin & Marshall and Colby dropped two spots to the No. 8 slot while Colby fell from No. 7 to No. 12. William Smith and Wesleyan both advanced into the sixth and seventh positions, respectively.

Williams made its first appearance in the Top 25 this season, earning the 24th-ranked position thanks to a 10-8 upset over Colby this weekend.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (3 - 0) 648 (24) 1
2 Tufts (2 - 0) 618 (1) 2
3 TCNJ (4 - 0) 585 3
4 Washington and Lee (6 - 0) 566 (1) 4
5 Salisbury (5 - 1) 538 5
6 William Smith (3 - 0) 486 8
7 Wesleyan (3 - 0) 483 10
8 Franklin & Marshall (2 - 2) 476 6
9 Gettysburg (2 - 3) 410 9
10 York (2 - 1) 386 11
11 Ithaca (4 - 1) 355 12
12 Colby (0 - 3) 353 7
13 Cortland (2 - 1) 341 13
14 Messiah (4 - 1) 317 14
15 Bowdoin (2 - 1) 286 16
16 Chicago (3 - 0) 266 17
17 Trinity (3 - 1) 209 19
18 Roanoke (4 - 1) 200 18
19 St. Lawrence (1 - 1) 180 15
20 Pomona-Pitzer (6 - 0) 175 20
21 Catholic (2 - 4) 119 21
22 Hamilton (0 - 2) 99 22
23 Amherst (2 - 1) 84 24
24 Williams (3 - 1) 57 NR
25 Geneseo (1 - 1) 53 23
RV Haverford, Stevens, Dickinson, St. John Fisher, Kenyon
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was the OP on Clemson. I didn’t say they were going to challenge the top ACC this year or next. All I said was after beating Duke they will be ranked top 25. They hit 24. Obviously gonna be years before they can beat teams like Syracuse or UNC. My point was how fast they went into the top 25.

Had some time to kill and was curious how teams actually have performed in recent years.

Looked at 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2022 (did not look at 2020 or 2021 because of covid modifications).

There were a total of 20 teams that ended up ranked in the "Top 10" in the final poll during that span.

Below are the only teams to finish the season ranked in the Top 10 at the end of the season and their average rank for that time span. If a team was not ranked in the Top 20 a final ranking of 25 was used to calculate their average.

1 - Maryland - 2
2 - North Carolina - 3
3 - Boston College - 5
4 - Stony Brook - 7
5 - Northwestern - 8
6 - Florida - 8
7 - Syracuse - 9
8 - Princeton - 9
9 - Virginia - 13
10 - Penn - 14
11 - James Madison - 14
12 - Notre Dame - 15
13 - Penn State
14 - USC - 15
15 - Navy - 16
16 - Loyola - 16
17 - Denver - 17
18 - Stanford - 19
19 - Towson - 21
20 - Rutgers - 22

Obviously the usual suspect are at the top. Teams that appear to be on the upswing Denver, Loyola, maybe Rutgers. Teams that have fallen off a bit: Penn State, Navy, Towson. COVID may have hurt Penn. Duke not in the mix.

Not out of line to say the above are 20 of the "Best" Programs. Maybe a few not listed that could be considered a Top 20 Program. Michigan, Duke, any others??

I wish Clemson the best but just do not see them cracking that list of Top 10 programs anytime soon. Top 20 - 25 yes.

Sorry but Rutgers is not on an upswing. Every week they drop in rankings and lost to unranked teams like Army & Penn State. heck, they almost lost to Vanderbilt today. Their preseason ranking was 8 and this week they are sitting at 22. I wouldn’t call that an upswing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was the OP on Clemson. I didn’t say they were going to challenge the top ACC this year or next. All I said was after beating Duke they will be ranked top 25. They hit 24. Obviously gonna be years before they can beat teams like Syracuse or UNC. My point was how fast they went into the top 25.

Had some time to kill and was curious how teams actually have performed in recent years.

Looked at 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2022 (did not look at 2020 or 2021 because of covid modifications).

There were a total of 20 teams that ended up ranked in the "Top 10" in the final poll during that span.

Below are the only teams to finish the season ranked in the Top 10 at the end of the season and their average rank for that time span. If a team was not ranked in the Top 20 a final ranking of 25 was used to calculate their average.

1 - Maryland - 2
2 - North Carolina - 3
3 - Boston College - 5
4 - Stony Brook - 7
5 - Northwestern - 8
6 - Florida - 8
7 - Syracuse - 9
8 - Princeton - 9
9 - Virginia - 13
10 - Penn - 14
11 - James Madison - 14
12 - Notre Dame - 15
13 - Penn State
14 - USC - 15
15 - Navy - 16
16 - Loyola - 16
17 - Denver - 17
18 - Stanford - 19
19 - Towson - 21
20 - Rutgers - 22

Obviously the usual suspect are at the top. Teams that appear to be on the upswing Denver, Loyola, maybe Rutgers. Teams that have fallen off a bit: Penn State, Navy, Towson. COVID may have hurt Penn. Duke not in the mix.

Not out of line to say the above are 20 of the "Best" Programs. Maybe a few not listed that could be considered a Top 20 Program. Michigan, Duke, any others??

I wish Clemson the best but just do not see them cracking that list of Top 10 programs anytime soon. Top 20 - 25 yes.

Sorry but Rutgers is not on an upswing. Every week they drop in rankings and lost to unranked teams like Army & Penn State. heck, they almost lost to Vanderbilt today. Their preseason ranking was 8 and this week they are sitting at 22. I wouldn’t call that an upswing.

I think they were talking about the program as a whole as in teams that have not really been considered top 20, 10 years ago that now are starting to.
Great win for Yale. YJ Duke thug ball player cost them game. Time for lessons to be learned!
Duke cannot get it done at home against Yale. Yale's goalie was their starting field hockey goalie that is not regularly part of the lacrosse program. Was brought up as an emergency starter. Duke has 8 graduate students and 12 seniors on the roster. Incredible experience playing together. If not now when? They will have to beat UVA, UNC or Syracuse in the regular season to get a top 20 win before the ACC tournament.
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Annabel Frist – Stanford University

Frist recorded a career-high eight goals in No. 21 Stanford’s win over University at Albany on Sunday. Her performance tied a program record for goals in a game, while she also recorded a career-high nine points and draw controls (13) in the matchup as well.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Emma Ward – Syracuse University

Ward posted career highs in points (8) and assists (7) in No. 2 Syracuse's victory against No. 12 Notre Dame. The win improved SU's record to 7-0, matching the best start in program history. She assisted on four of the Orange's first five goals as they jumped out to a 5-1 lead. Ward added two more assists in the second quarter as Syracuse led 10-3 at halftime. Ward's seven assists tie for second on the 'Cuse single-game record list.

Defensive Player of the Week

Emily Lamparter – Clemson University

Lamparter played all 60 minutes against No. 13 Duke and made nine critical saves on 19 shots in Clemson’s first ever win against a top-15 ranked opponent. She saved four out of Duke's six free position shots and was key to the upset victory. The 7-2 Tigers also entered into the top 25 national rankings this week, landing at No. 24 in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division I Poll.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Sydney Tiemann – Maryville University

Tiemann tied her own program record of goals in a game with eight against Missouri Western State University. The senior attacker scored all eight goals in the second half with her final tally coming with just twenty seconds remaining to lead the Saints to the 12-11 victory. Maryville is now 6-0 on the season.

Defensive Player of the Week

Jessica Harclerode – Saint Leo University

The freshman goalkeeper was a key component in the upset win over No. 17 Seton Hill with 12 saves on 22 shots. She set a career-high in saves (13) in the 11-7 win over Montevallo to cap the 3-0 week for the No. 20 Lions. At 6-0, Saint Leo climbed to the No. 18 ranking in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division II Poll.
DIVISION III


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Jane Earley – Middlebury College

Earley guided No. 1 Middlebury to a pair of New England Small College Athletic Conference (NESCAC) victories this past week, leading the team with 12 points (8 goals, 4 assists) and 12 draw controls. The senior tallied five goals against No. 16 Bowdoin, including back-to-back markers late in the contest to give Middlebury a two-goal edge. In Saturday’s contest against Connecticut College, Earley tallied a hat trick in the opening quarter.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Autumn Kraemer – Brevard College

Kraemer matched the program single-game record with nine goals and set a program single-game record for points (12) in the 18-5 victory over Sweet Briar College.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Caroline Pratt – Williams College

The sophomore goalkeeper played the final 30 minutes and made six saves to earn the 10-8 upset victory over No. 7 Colby. The win pushed Williams College into the top-25 rankings of the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division III Poll, landing at No. 24.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Rachel Keefe – University of Chicago

Keefe recorded 16 saves after facing 21 shots on goal against the University of Mary Washington on Sunday, defeating the Eagles 7-5. The Maroons (3-0) have slid up to the No. 16 position in the latest ILWomen / IWLCA Division III rankings.
Tons of nasty fouls by Yale....cross checks and slashes all game long. Not sure why you are making thug ball references when they are doing the same thing. Time to get off of your high horse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tons of nasty fouls by Yale....cross checks and slashes all game long. Not sure why you are making thug ball references when they are doing the same thing. Time to get off of your high horse.

Agree but they need to start calling the flopping . Player on Duke getting 8 meter shots diving to the ground and what is more amazing is prior to diving to the ground she grabs her head to try and get a yellow card , no yellow card given but the refs do nothing about the obvious poor sportsmanship /embellishment which was supposed to be a point of emphasis this year. Watching that game its amazing these are obviously very smart people because the lax IQ on the players especially from Duke was almost non existent. Not sure how many turnovers they had but it could have been twice as many as they kept getting their forced passes back, alot of their offense was throwing a bad pass to the middle and picking up the loose ball to get a shot off.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tons of nasty fouls by Yale....cross checks and slashes all game long. Not sure why you are making thug ball references when they are doing the same thing. Time to get off of your high horse.
Between this game and the SB/NW game, it's becoming "not fun" to watch. The amount of flopping, theatrics, legit fouls, etc....it's ridiculous to watch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tons of nasty fouls by Yale....cross checks and slashes all game long. Not sure why you are making thug ball references when they are doing the same thing. Time to get off of your high horse.
Between this game and the SB/NW game, it's becoming "not fun" to watch. The amount of flopping, theatrics, legit fouls, etc....it's ridiculous to watch.


They need to make flopping and severe unsportmanlike conduct which yields a straight red card. After it gets called a couple times, the problem will be solved almost immediately.
Agree.
Give the refs the ability to watch a replay and each team gets a challenge , if it’s determined that there was embellishment it’s a YC and a turnover .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tons of nasty fouls by Yale....cross checks and slashes all game long. Not sure why you are making thug ball references when they are doing the same thing. Time to get off of your high horse.

Agree but they need to start calling the flopping . Player on Duke getting 8 meter shots diving to the ground and what is more amazing is prior to diving to the ground she grabs her head to try and get a yellow card , no yellow card given but the refs do nothing about the obvious poor sportsmanship /embellishment which was supposed to be a point of emphasis this year. Watching that game its amazing these are obviously very smart people because the lax IQ on the players especially from Duke was almost non existent. Not sure how many turnovers they had but it could have been twice as many as they kept getting their forced passes back, alot of their offense was throwing a bad pass to the middle and picking up the loose ball to get a shot off.

Agree. It’s not just in the Duke game. It’s becoming an epidemic. Flopping goes on way too much. Pretty soon it will be as prevalent as soccer. Say three times fake head injuries in a Syracuse game last week.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tons of nasty fouls by Yale....cross checks and slashes all game long. Not sure why you are making thug ball references when they are doing the same thing. Time to get off of your high horse.
Between this game and the SB/NW game, it's becoming "not fun" to watch. The amount of flopping, theatrics, legit fouls, etc....it's ridiculous to watch.


They need to make flopping and severe unsportmanlike conduct which yields a straight red card. After it gets called a couple times, the problem will be solved almost immediately.

Red is a little excessive but yeah. Something.
Embellishment is a 2 minute penalty in ice hockey, should be a yellow in lacrosse. Still not sure what the thug reference is about when there is a physical play and flopping in every single game at D1 level. Kind of irresponsible of any adult to come on here and call a college kid a thug when the actions she is displaying is common place in todays game. According to that posters logic, there are thugs on every team, including Yale.
I think a more realistic rules change would be to give suspensions for cumulative yellows over the course of a season. (A few other states already do this at the high school level).

For example, after 4 yellows in a season you miss the next game; after 8 yellows, you miss next 2 games, any yellow after that, you automatically miss the next game.
No skin in this game. If I’m being honest I see both sides. No one who is on this site and has a daughter who is at this level of play wants to see anyone to get hurt. Does anyone here think that any of these girls are doing any of this on purpose? Do I think that possibly collegiate coaches are encouraging their players to embellish or “act” a little when they are fouled? Of course they are… in the spirit of healthy competition, coaches that don’t do it will be seen by some parents as not good, and opponents parents at times will say I wish our/my kid would do a little more selling of the foul to try and get the call… It’s the refs job to be dialed in and determine what is real and what is dangerous…to control the game. Since we know this is happening and will be part of this game going forward maybe it is time to get more qualified refs and instant replay like in other sports to be able to penalize appropriately. Although, this resulted in a serious injury to a young girl. I’m pretty confident in saying that not one of those players on either side was coached to hurt another player. Let’s keep it real parents. But having concrete consequences to actions that potentially hurt another player wouldn’t be a bad thing either. =Anonymous]I think a more realistic rules change would be to give suspensions for cumulative yellows over the course of a season. (A few other states already do this at the high school level).

For example, after 4 yellows in a season you miss the next game; after 8 yellows, you miss next 2 games, any yellow after that, you automatically miss the next game.[/quote]
How about let’s start with enforcing the rules that are in place. This is done with training Refs properly and continuous education. This is a lack of US lacrosse the governing body of lacrosse.

There are easy calls that need to be made besides cross checks.

On draw you have to be toeing the line on your side. No one foot should be on the center draw line. Sticks can’t move once ball is set

On free position you can’t be on 8M line-this is defense or offense

The defender or attacker can’t check towards the body. We now allow the checking to people’s hands and arms.

These are few of many that are easy.

In Women’s lacrosse more times than not the fouling of a player helps the team that fouled.

THAT IN ITSELF IS THE PROBLEM .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was the OP on Clemson. I didn’t say they were going to challenge the top ACC this year or next. All I said was after beating Duke they will be ranked top 25. They hit 24. Obviously gonna be years before they can beat teams like Syracuse or UNC. My point was how fast they went into the top 25.

Had some time to kill and was curious how teams actually have performed in recent years.

Looked at 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2022 (did not look at 2020 or 2021 because of covid modifications).

There were a total of 20 teams that ended up ranked in the "Top 10" in the final poll during that span.

Below are the only teams to finish the season ranked in the Top 10 at the end of the season and their average rank for that time span. If a team was not ranked in the Top 20 a final ranking of 25 was used to calculate their average.

1 - Maryland - 2
2 - North Carolina - 3
3 - Boston College - 5
4 - Stony Brook - 7
5 - Northwestern - 8
6 - Florida - 8
7 - Syracuse - 9
8 - Princeton - 9
9 - Virginia - 13
10 - Penn - 14
11 - James Madison - 14
12 - Notre Dame - 15
13 - Penn State
14 - USC - 15
15 - Navy - 16
16 - Loyola - 16
17 - Denver - 17
18 - Stanford - 19
19 - Towson - 21
20 - Rutgers - 22

Obviously the usual suspect are at the top. Teams that appear to be on the upswing Denver, Loyola, maybe Rutgers. Teams that have fallen off a bit: Penn State, Navy, Towson. COVID may have hurt Penn. Duke not in the mix.

Not out of line to say the above are 20 of the "Best" Programs. Maybe a few not listed that could be considered a Top 20 Program. Michigan, Duke, any others??

I wish Clemson the best but just do not see them cracking that list of Top 10 programs anytime soon. Top 20 - 25 yes.

Sorry but Rutgers is not on an upswing. Every week they drop in rankings and lost to unranked teams like Army & Penn State. heck, they almost lost to Vanderbilt today. Their preseason ranking was 8 and this week they are sitting at 22. I wouldn’t call that an upswing.

Obviously you have difficulty with reading comprehension as well as grasping concepts. The post was not looking at a particular game or season, it was viewing "programs" and how they have fared in recent years and how the program has been trending. Rutgers, as a program has certainly improved in recent years. One game or one season does not make a program.
In Women’s lacrosse more times than not the fouling of a player helps the team that fouled.

THAT IN ITSELF IS THE PROBLEM .


Definitely one of the biggest problems. The fouls actually help the defense.
With the invention of the zone defense in Womens. Refs have forget the rule of defense players moving into the path of a Shot, Follow through or shooter gets a step to shot(not a charge). I am noticing many times when teams pass into the middle of the 8M which is what a zone gives you the below defensive players move in underneath the player and into the path of shot or follow through as the come from many times the back side of the shooter.


THIS SHOULDN'T BE YELLOW.(even if they grab every part of their body-LOL). All questionable Yellows should be reviewable. We have it now, use it. Refs are human and can't see it all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the invention of the zone defense in Womens. Refs have forget the rule of defense players moving into the path of a Shot, Follow through or shooter gets a step to shot(not a charge). I am noticing many times when teams pass into the middle of the 8M which is what a zone gives you the below defensive players move in underneath the player and into the path of shot or follow through as the come from many times the back side of the shooter.


THIS SHOULDN'T BE YELLOW.(even if they grab every part of their body-LOL). All questionable Yellows should be reviewable. We have it now, use it. Refs are human and can't see it all.

Making yellow cards reviewable will take an already slow game with no flow to a standstill. The rules are all about player safety so that is always going to be detrimental to the defense. I do not see any way there can be an improvement currently. The quick start and the shot clock were the two best things that happened to this game and made it at least watchable
Hopefully Stanford will finally be out of the Top 25 now. As said multiple times by many. Had no business being there. It’s not a science experiment, it’s a sport.
The mighty Stanford Cardinals are 3-4 with loses to Colorado and U of Albany. yeah..program is well on it's way to irrelevancy in 2-3 years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the invention of the zone defense in Womens. Refs have forget the rule of defense players moving into the path of a Shot, Follow through or shooter gets a step to shot(not a charge). I am noticing many times when teams pass into the middle of the 8M which is what a zone gives you the below defensive players move in underneath the player and into the path of shot or follow through as the come from many times the back side of the shooter.


THIS SHOULDN'T BE YELLOW.(even if they grab every part of their body-LOL). All questionable Yellows should be reviewable. We have it now, use it. Refs are human and can't see it all.

Making yellow cards reviewable will take an already slow game with no flow to a standstill. The rules are all about player safety so that is always going to be detrimental to the defense. I do not see any way there can be an improvement currently. The quick start and the shot clock were the two best things that happened to this game and made it at least watchable

Now get rid of the draw. The only draws are to start the game and start the 2nd half.
How’s Stanford doing? Asking for a friend.
To stop the overly physical play, you have to make the penalties harsh enough that coaches will change. It also has to be easy to administer as to not slow down the game. A few "radical" changes...

*Yellow cards #5 - #6 becomes a 4min non-releasable and draw defaults to the other team after every goal.
*Yellow #7 and above, each card you play down a player for remainder of the game and draw default continues.
*Cumulative team foul impact- All major team fouls over 5 per quarter results in an automatic clear if in defensive end or an 8m if in the offensive end

*Refs have to call cross checks that are forcefully extended into the other player as a yellow card
*Refs have to call the dangerous follow throughs on offensive players
What happened to BC? They’re falling apart. Missing North bad! New #1 in town Northwestern, and we’ll deserved!
Izzy Scane > Charlotte North
Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How’s Stanford doing? Asking for a friend.

Watched them play yesterday. They have some excellent players. #33 is a fantastic player who would excel anywhere. They also have a few other real standouts, and talented freshman that are starting to get in. They are finally playing #22 who was UA MVP and scored two goals. I don’t think they are coached well, especially offensively. You can’t win the majority of draws and not score more. Their defense is also a big problem. There are some players that are real liabilities on the field. They need to fix a few of those issues, and would vastly improve. Guess that could be said for many other teams as well. They will likely get better as the season progresses and make the tournament. Time will tell
NW and Cuse definitely separating themselves from the rest of the top 10. Both have solid defenses and on the offense end they run very good sets to create offense and opportunities. I just had a chance to flip through the BC and UNC games. Both have a lot of work to do on offensive end to compete with BC and SU. 1v1 everywhere don’t work against top teams.

I think NW and Cuse will be two left standing.

Lots of lax to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The mighty Stanford Cardinals are 3-4 with loses to Colorado and U of Albany. yeah..program is well on it's way to irrelevancy in 2-3 years.

They beat Albany...at least get your facts right before crowing...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The mighty Stanford Cardinals are 3-4 with loses to Colorado and U of Albany. yeah..program is well on it's way to irrelevancy in 2-3 years.

They beat Albany...at least get your facts right before crowing...

Lol, unless your daughter plays for NU or Cuse, you have ugly losses, so slow down. Let the girls play, and improve as the season goes. Stanford will never be irrelevant and will likely win their conference and make the tournament most years. They do need to take the next step, which they may or may not do. It won’t be due to lack of talent. At the end of the day, the girls will walk away with a life changing degree.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NW and Cuse definitely separating themselves from the rest of the top 10. Both have solid defenses and on the offense end they run very good sets to create offense and opportunities. I just had a chance to flip through the BC and UNC games. Both have a lot of work to do on offensive end to compete with BC and SU. 1v1 everywhere don’t work against top teams.

I think NW and Cuse will be two left standing.

Lots of lax to play.
Cuse only beat NW by 1 - so the Cuse/UNC game will be interesting. As long as Cuse continues to stay healthy (losing their DC didn't seem to be an issue against Duke).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .

Facts over feelings… In BC’s 3 losses, said player has 4 goals, 3 assists and 12 turnovers. Elite players show-up in the biggest games and it is fair to say that has not happened yet this season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to BC? They’re falling apart. Missing North bad! New #1 in town Northwestern, and we’ll deserved!

Did we not forget someone ?
Again the refs are not consistent. Watching the games the amount of check towards the body and cross checking that is being done in women’s lacrosse is fool. It is getting worse and worse.

It is clear poke and slap checking. Allow it everywhere is your going to allow it. It is becoming a joke.
Again the refs are not consistent. Watching the games the amount of check towards the body and cross checking that is being done in women’s lacrosse is fool. It is getting worse and worse.

It is clear poke and slap checking. Allow it everywhere is your going to allow it. It is becoming a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .

Most likely you got banned for being creepy, stalking some kid and talking about her " scoring" on prom night is creepy .
How is Princeton ranked ahead of Penn State now? These rankings are a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .

Most likely you got banned for being creepy, stalking some kid and talking about her " scoring" on prom night is creepy .


Nope. Not it. And to give you reference about it. Some mother was trashing BS last year. All I said was what are you upset Belle stole your daughters prom date. It was a sarcastic remark. And then the mother kinda insinuated it to be true. 🤷🏻‍♂️. I got banned after saying Stanford shouldn’t be ranked.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .

Most likely you got banned for being creepy, stalking some kid and talking about her " scoring" on prom night is creepy .


So you dont find the reference to a high school girls "scoring" on prom night to be creepy. I doubt you got banned by saying Stanford shouldn't be ranked as even the fool Stanford dads can't still believe tehy should be ranked.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is Princeton ranked ahead of Penn State now? These rankings are a joke

Who cares about coaches polls? Computer rankings are used by NCAA committe and only ones that matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .

Most likely you got banned for being creepy, stalking some kid and talking about her " scoring" on prom night is creepy .



So you dont find the reference to a high school girls "scoring" on prom night to be creepy. I doubt you got banned by saying Stanford shouldn't be ranked as even the fool Stanford dads can't still believe tehy should be ranked.[/quote

You missed it. The original posts were over a year ago. Look back. Mother accused me of being Belle Smiths mother. That’s where the prom thing comes into. Go back and look. It wasn’t creepy. Your taking it out of context.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .

Most likely you got banned for being creepy, stalking some kid and talking about her " scoring" on prom night is creepy .

So you dont find the reference to a high school girls "scoring" on prom night to be creepy. I doubt you got banned by saying Stanford shouldn't be ranked as even the fool Stanford dads can't still believe tehy should be ranked.[/quote

You missed it. The original posts were over a year ago. Look back. Mother accused me of being Belle Smiths mother. That’s where the prom thing comes into. Go back and look. It wasn’t creepy. Your taking it out of context.

And I don’t think I was banned because of the Stanford post. That’s when I got banned. My last post was about Stanford. Probably not banned. I switched internet providers in my house. I’m imagining it had something to do with that. But no. It’s a sarcastic comment. They hated that BS had a successful sophomore year and there was back and forth about it. Now they are floating because she had a bad game. Didn’t hear them talking last week when she dominated.
Originally Posted by Not_Belles_Mommy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where is the “did she steal your daughters boyfriend “ poster today . She should have treated the ball today like she treated all those other girls boyfriends . A seasons worth of turnovers in one game has to be some sort of record .

Most likely you got banned for being creepy, stalking some kid and talking about her " scoring" on prom night is creepy .


So you dont find the reference to a high school girls "scoring" on prom night to be creepy. I doubt you got banned by saying Stanford shouldn't be ranked as even the fool Stanford dads can't still believe tehy should be ranked.[/quote

You missed it. The original posts were over a year ago. Look back. Mother accused me of being Belle Smiths mother. That’s where the prom thing comes into. Go back and look. It wasn’t creepy. Your taking it out of context.

And I don’t think I was banned because of the Stanford post. That’s when I got banned. My last post was about Stanford. Probably not banned. I switched internet providers in my house. I’m imagining it had something to do with that. But no. It’s a sarcastic comment. They hated that BS had a successful sophomore year and there was back and forth about it. Now they are floating because she had a bad game. Didn’t hear them talking last week when she dominated.

I really don’t think anyone’s name should ever be mentioned here, especially by someone anonymously, it’s just cowardly and wrong.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – March 20



Middlebury remains atop the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll in Week 4, remaining unbeaten through the NESCAC’s first three weeks of play, most recently topping Trinity College in dominant fashion. Washington and Lee jumped into the No. 2 position after topping Tufts 16-5 on Saturday to move to 7-0 while TCNJ stayed put as No. 3.

William Smith and Salisbury traded spots, coming in at No. 5 and No. 6, respectively after William Smith knocked off the Sea Gulls this weekend.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (5 - 0) 818 (30) 1
2 Washington and Lee (7 - 0) 786 (3) 4
3 TCNJ (6 - 0) 753 3
4 Tufts (3 - 1) 709 2
5 William Smith (5 - 0) 689 6
6 Salisbury (5 - 2) 662 5
7 Franklin & Marshall (4 - 2) 589 8
8 Wesleyan (5 - 1) 587 7
9 Gettysburg (3 - 3) 552 9
10 York (3 - 2) 486 10
11 Messiah (5 - 1) 457 14
12 Colby (2 - 3) 446 12
13 Ithaca (5 - 2) 405 11
14 Chicago (5 - 0) 399 16
15 Cortland (3 - 2) 323 13
16 Bowdoin (2 - 3) 304 15
17 Trinity (CT) (4 - 1) 276 17
18 Roanoke (6 - 1) 258 18
19 Amherst (4 - 1) 231 23
20 Williams (4 - 1) 216 24
21 Pomona-Pitzer (8 - 1) 190 20
22 St. Lawrence (2 - 2) 158 19
23 Hamilton (2 - 3) 125 22
24 Catholic (2 - 5) 101 21
25 Stevens (7 - 0) 75 NR
RV St. John Fisher, Geneseo, Kenyon, Colorado College, Christopher Newport
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – March 20



There is another new No. 1 in Division II this week, as undefeated West Chester bumped two spots into the top slot. Regis followed, jumping five spots from the No. 7 position a week ago after upsetting UIndy 14-12.

Pace, UIndy, and Le Moyne round out the Top 5, while Florida Southern dropped from the No. 2 position after falling to Bentley on Saturday.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 West Chester (6 - 0) 693 (22) 3
2 Regis (CO) (6 - 0) 637 (1) 7
3 Pace (4 - 1) 625 (4) 6
4 UIndy (8 - 1) 616 (1) 1
5 Le Moyne (4 - 1) 588 5
6 Florida Southern (8 - 1) 579 2
7 Tampa (7 - 2) 524 4
8 Rollins (9 - 0) 516 9
9 Adelphi (3 - 2) 490 8
10 Wingate (7 - 2) 401 12
11 East Stroudsburg (5 - 1) 393 10
12 Mercy (3 - 4) 366 13
13 Lynn (9 - 1) 363 14
14 Bentley (5 - 1) 331 21
15 Flagler (7 - 1) 319 15
16 Grand Valley (4 - 4) 287 11
17 Assumption (4 - 1) 253 16
18 Embry-Riddle (8 - 1) 219 17
19 Saint Leo (6 - 2) 182 18
20 New Haven (3 - 2) 177 20
21 Maryville (10 - 0) 156 NR
22 Seton Hill (4 - 3) 131 19
23 Saint Anselm (6 - 0) 94 23
24 Colorado Mesa (3 - 1) 63 24
25 Southern New Hampshire (4 - 1) 24 NR
RV Mount Olive, Florida Tech, Mercyhurst, Roberts Wesleyan, Saint Rose
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – March 20



There are major shakeups in the Top 5 teams of the ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll — including a new No. 1.

Syracuse and Northwestern moved into the No. 1 and No. 2 spots, respectively, after the Wildcats took down North Carolina on Sunday afternoon. The Orange beat the Wildcats to start the season on Feb. 11.

North Carolina, which had gone more than 1,000 days since its last regular-season loss, was No. 1 in the poll since Week 6 of 2022. It is the first time a team other than UNC or BC is No. 1 since 2019.

Syracuse and Denver remain as the two remaining undefeated teams in the Top 10, as Denver pulled off a big win over Boston College, moving the Pioneers up two spots into the No. 4 position, while the Eagles dropped to No. 7.

James Madison rounds out the Top 5, winning its eighth-straight game and first in its new conference over Florida on Saturday.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Syracuse (9 - 0) 593 (19) 2
2 Northwestern (8 - 1) 581 (5) 3
3 North Carolina (7 - 1) 551 1
4 Denver (9 - 0) 517 6
5 James Madison (8 - 1) 480 7
6 Stony Brook (5 - 1) 476 5
7 Boston College (6 - 3) 467 4
8 Florida (5 - 3) 406 8
9 Loyola (6 - 2) 400 9
10 Maryland (7 - 3) 387 11
11 Notre Dame (6 - 2) 363 12
12 Virginia (7 - 2) 314 10
13 Army (8 - 0) 300 13
14 Yale (6 - 2) 294 16
15 Michigan (7 - 4) 217 17
16 UMass (8 - 1) 186 20
17 Princeton (3 - 3) 181 14
18 Duke (4 - 5) 159 15
18 USC (6 - 2) 159 18
20 Penn State (7 - 2) 156 25
21 Jacksonville (5 - 4) 121 19
22 Clemson (8 - 3) 96 24
23 Rutgers (4 - 4) 89 22
24 Penn (4 - 2) 76 23
25 Navy (7 - 2) 71 NR
RV Stanford, Richmond, UConn, Johns Hopkins, Louisville
My annual message to all, a bit later in the season then in the past, is to keep the comments lacrosse related and not malicious.

Some thoughts per division. D1, to me, is a two team horse race with Syracuse and Northwestern. Not that anyone can can knock off anyone else come tournament time (Purdue in men’s basketball and FDU) but I think those are the teams to beat.

D2 shows how far the sport has come geographically. So many teams from outside the “traditional” lacrosse areas. Great to see.

D3 dominated by the NESCAC once again. Nine teams in the IWLCA poll. As we know polls mean nothing come tournament time as regional ranking take precedent. As a conference they are by far the most competitive.

I’ll reiterate lets keep the comments within lacrosse related matters.
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Gretchen Gilmore – Pennsylvania State University

Gilmore had a major offensive performance in both of No. 25 Penn State’s wins this week, including a 13-12 victory over Towson University and a 16-14 win against No. 14 Princeton. She scored four goals and two assists against Towson en route to her first hat trick of the season. She recorded a double hat trick against the Tigers with her final two goals of the day proving to be the game-winners for the Nittany Lions. Gilmore also picked up one ground ball and caused two turnovers as well. Penn State moved to No. 20 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Izzy Scane – Northwestern University

Scane and the Wildcats defeated the No. 1 team in the country that had not lost in over 40 regular season games. Taking down the University of North Carolina, 13-9, Scane led the ‘Cats with four goals, an assist, a ground ball and caused a turnover. The victory was No. 3 Northwestern's first over UNC since 2014 and the Tar Heels' first regular season loss since 2019. It was also the Wildcats' first win over a No. 1 ranked team since 2019. With the win, Northwestern bumped up to the No. 2 ranking in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll. Scane currently leads the country as well as her team in goals with 46.

Defensive Player of the Week

Bryn McCaughey – University of Denver

McCaughey totaled seven caused turnovers, four ground balls and one draw control over two games last week. She also scored the second goal of her career in No. 6 University of Denver’s win over the University of Delaware. McCaughey now averages 2.33 caused turnovers per game, which ranks 9th among all NCAA Division I players. The undefeated 9-0 Pioneers are now No. 4 in the country in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week ­

Minnie Bittell – Northern Michigan University

Bittell netted five goals on six shots in Northern Michigan University’s 13-11 victory over Concordia University-Saint Paul. She became Northern Michigan’s all-time leading goal-scorer, with 112 in her career. She also added two ground balls, two caused turnovers, and five draw controls.

Defensive Player of the Week

Ashlee Wargo – Bentley University

Wargo helped lead Bentley to two overtime wins over ranked teams this past week, defeating No. 2 Florida Southern, 13-12, and No. 18 Saint Leo, 17-16. The sophomore goalie recorded a combined 24 saves for the week.
DIVISION III


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Gianna Bruno – Colby College

Bruno tallied a combined five goals and eight assists to go with seven ground balls and four caused turnovers last week. The senior attacker scored three goals and three assists in a victory over previously unbeaten No. 7 Wesleyan University. She registered a season-high five assists and scored twice in the win over Plymouth State University. Bruno’s six points against Wesleyan mark the most the Cardinals have allowed to a single player this season.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Walker McKnight – Washington and Lee University

McKnight recorded a career-best five goals off six shots and went 3-3 from the hashes to lead the No. 4 Generals to a 16-5 win over No. 2 Tufts University. The win pushed Washington and Lee to the No. 2 slot in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division III rankings.

Defensive Player of the Week

Caroline Kranich – Washington and Lee University

Kranich made a career-high 13 saves in the No. 4 Generals win over No. 2 Tufts. The junior goalkeeper held the Jumbos to just four goals off of 14 free positions and conceded only one goal during settled attack. She made six stops in the second quarter alone and allowed Washington and Lee to go on a 10-0 run from the second to the fourth quarter.
BC does not look even close to what they were ,I know everyone attributes it to the loss of CN but I think it may have more to do with the absence of their most valuable player this year due to injury. Seems like no one has noticed what a difference she makes. Watching Duke play this year is brutal and the me ball by the superstar has to be brutal as a teammate , the forces and turnovers while controlling the draw have to be difficult as a fan to deal with.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – March 27



Women’s DI lacrosse was as steady as can be this past week.

The Top 10 teams are the same in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll. Syracuse is the clear No. 1 and gained every first-place vote. Northwestern, North Carolina, Denver and James Madison, respectively, keep their pace in the Top 5.

The Orange (11-0) beat Stony Brook and Louisville within the past week, while Northwestern earned wins against Johns Hopkins and Stanford.

The first change is Virginia and Notre Dame flip-flopping at 11 and 12 after the Cavaliers beat the Fighting Irish on Saturday. Then, there are minor shifts with Penn State rising two spots to 18, and Penn and Navy each bumping up one.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Syracuse (11 - 0) 525 (21) 1
2 Northwestern (10 - 1) 503 2
3 North Carolina (9 - 1) 482 3
4 Denver (10 - 0) 458 4
5 James Madison (10 - 1) 439 5
6 Stony Brook (6 - 2) 402 6
7 Boston College (7 - 3) 395 7
8 Florida (7 - 3) 375 8
9 Loyola (7 - 2) 369 9
10 Maryland (8 - 3) 336 10
11 Virginia (8 - 3) 320 12
12 Notre Dame (6 - 3) 283 11
13 Army (9 - 0) 257 13
14 Yale (7 - 2) 235 14
15 Michigan (9 - 4) 213 15
16 UMass (10 - 1) 196 16
17 Princeton (4 - 3) 164 17
18 Penn State (9 - 2) 156 20
19 USC (8 - 2) 146 18
20 Duke (6 - 5) 139 18
21 Jacksonville (5 - 5) 105 21
22 Clemson (9 - 4) 76 22
23 Penn (5 - 3) 71 24
24 Navy (8 - 2) 65 25
25 Rutgers (4 - 5) 29 23
RV Richmond, UConn, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, Towson
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – March 27



West Chester remains No. 1 in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll for the second-straight week.

The Rams pulled away from Bloomsburg en route to a decisive win.

Pace is on their heels after earning a win verse NE10 foe Le Moyne for the first time in program history. The Setters received five first-place votes.

Regis (Colo.), UIndy and Florida Southern follow in the Top 5.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 West Chester (8 - 0) 556 (17) 1
2 Pace (6 - 1) 539 (5) 3
3 Regis (CO) (7 - 0) 529 2
4 UIndy (10 - 1) 500 4
5 Florida Southern (9 - 1) 488 (1) 6
6 Tampa (9 - 2) 443 7
7 Rollins (10 - 0) 418 8
8 Le Moyne (5 - 2) 406 5
9 Adelphi (5 - 2) 364 9
10 Wingate (9 - 2) 356 10
11 Lynn (9 - 1) 321 13
12 Bentley (6 - 1) 314 14
13 Mercy (4 - 4) 296 12
14 East Stroudsburg (6 - 2) 276 11
15 Flagler (9 - 1) 246 15
16 Assumption (4 - 3) 226 17
17 Grand Valley (5 - 4) 219 16
18 Embry-Riddle (8 - 1) 188 18
19 Saint Leo (8 - 2) 177 19
20 New Haven (4 - 3) 141 20
21 Maryville (11 - 0) 138 21
22 Saint Anselm (7 - 0) 87 23
23 Seton Hill (6 - 3) 80 22
24 Southern New Hampshire (6 - 1) 43 25
25 Mercyhurst (2 - 5) 22 NR
RV Colorado Mesa, Mount Olive, Florida Tech, Limestone, Kutztown
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC does not look even close to what they were ,I know everyone attributes it to the loss of CN but I think it may have more to do with the absence of their most valuable player this year due to injury. Seems like no one has noticed what a difference she makes. Watching Duke play this year is brutal and the me ball by the superstar has to be brutal as a teammate , the forces and turnovers while controlling the draw have to be difficult as a fan to deal with.

Wow, thank you for such an insightful post. What would the rest of us do without such words of wisdom?
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – March 27



Middlebury is 8-0 and the decisive No. 1 in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll.

Washington and Lee and TCNJ remain two and three, while William Smith and Tufts switch spots to make up the Top 5.

Big moves this week include Trinity moving up to 14 from 17, as well as Williams College who shifted up three spots to the 17th position. Kenyon (23) and St. John Fisher enter the Top 25 after receiving votes.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (8 - 0) 575 (23) 1
2 Washington and Lee (8 - 1) 522 2
3 TCNJ (7 - 1) 521 3
4 William Smith (7 - 0) 495 5
5 Tufts (5 - 1) 491 4
6 Salisbury (6 - 3) 450 6
7 Wesleyan (6 - 1) 416 8
8 York (5 - 2) 406 10
9 Franklin & Marshall (5 - 2) 389 7
10 Gettysburg (5 - 3) 363 9
11 Messiah (7 - 1) 339 11
12 Colby (4 - 3) 315 12
13 Ithaca (7 - 2) 276 13
14 Trinity (CT) (5 - 2) 239 17
15 Bowdoin (3 - 4) 216 16
16 Chicago (5 - 2) 214 14
17 Williams (6 - 1) 194 20
18 Amherst (5 - 1) 187 19
19 Roanoke (7 - 1) 179 18
20 Cortland (4 - 3) 156 15
21 Pomona-Pitzer (9 - 1) 140 21
22 Hamilton (4 - 4) 71 23
23 Kenyon (9 - 0) 68 NR
24 St. John Fisher (5 - 1) 56 NR
25 St. Lawrence (3 - 4) 48 22
RV Stevens, Catholic, Washington College, Shenandoah, Skidmore
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC does not look even close to what they were ,I know everyone attributes it to the loss of CN but I think it may have more to do with the absence of their most valuable player this year due to injury. Seems like no one has noticed what a difference she makes. Watching Duke play this year is brutal and the me ball by the superstar has to be brutal as a teammate , the forces and turnovers while controlling the draw have to be difficult as a fan to deal with.

Wow, thank you for such an insightful post. What would the rest of us do without such words of wisdom?
I am pretty positive you would be doing the same thing you have been doing the whole season , watching your Duke player only care about her stats playing me ball all the while turning it over again and again and again. Sorry if you did not think it insightful to point out how much BC misses a player who does not get much fan fare or play like a ball hog.
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Erin Coykendall – Northwestern University

Coykendall scored a combined 11 goals and five assists in No. 2 Northwestern’s pair of wins over Johns Hopkins University and Stanford University. She had a career-high five goals against the Blue Jays but broke that mark with a new high of six against the Cardinal. She added five assists to her offensive numbers as well. Northwestern is currently on a 10-game win streak and will face No. 18 Penn State this Thursday at home.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Lizzie Yurchak – University of Delaware

Yurchak recorded a career-high six goals against Monmouth University, including the game-tying goal with 14 seconds remaining in regulation and the game-winner in overtime. Delaware's 13-12 comeback victory from down 9-4 was its largest since 2019.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Kat Buchanan – James Madison University

Buchanan boasted a career-high 12 saves as No. 5 James Madison defeated No. 12 University of Virginia, 10-8. Her .600 save percentage against UVA is marked as a career-high for a full game for Buchanan. The senior allowed just one goal in the first half against Temple University and finished the game with a .529 save percentage to hold the Owls below 10 goals. Buchanan has held nine opponents below 10 goals this season and has registered eight games with a .500 or better save percentage. Buchanan was named the American Athletic Conference Goalkeeper of the Week this past Monday. This is Buchanan’s second IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Ellie Hollin – Pennsylvania State University

Hollin had major defensive contributions to both of No. 20 Penn State's wins this week. In a dominating 13-3 win over Ohio State University, Hollin helped the defense record a first half shutout, holding her man, the Buckeyes leading scorer, to only one goal throughout the entire game. She also posted five ground balls, five caused turnovers and one draw control against the Buckeyes. In the 15-12 win over the University of Pittsburgh, she held the Panthers' leading scorer to just one goal and added one ground ball, one caused turnover and two draw controls. Penn State has shifted up two slots to the No. 18 position in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I poll.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week ­

Aleya Corretjer – Pace University

Corretjer tallied 13 points on eight goals and four assists in a 2-0 week for No. 3 Pace, which included a 16-5 win over No. 5 Le Moyne in NE10 play. She recorded nine points (five goals, three assists) in the win over the Dolphins, while racking up four points - including a hat trick - in an 18-11 win over Southern Connecticut State University. She added two ground balls, two draw controls and one caused turnover this week. Pace has now moved into the No. 2 position in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division II rankings.

Defensive Player of the Week

Grace Frasso – West Chester University

Frasso played an integral role on a defense that held two opponents, one of those being No. 11 ranked East Stroudsburg University, to just five goals each in a pair of wins. Part of that effort included holding All-America midfielder Emily Mitarotonda from ESU to just two points (1G, 1A) in a 16-5 win. Additionally, Frasso helped the No. 1 Golden Rams clear the ball successfully 25 of 27 times in the two games combined. She finished the week with five draw controls and five caused turnovers while scooping up three ground balls.
DIVISION III


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Jane Earley – Middlebury College

Earley helped No. 1 Middlebury extend its win streak to 13 with three wins this past week. Against No. 3 The College of New Jersey, Earley paced the team with a school record 13 draw controls and a team-best six goals to help the Panthers edge the Lions 17-11. In the three-game stretch, Earley led the squad in points (13), goals (12), and draw controls (28), while also scooping up five rollers. The senior leads the New England Small College Athletic Conference in draws (63), points (37), and goals (28) and has now earned IWLCA Player of the Week nods twice this season.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Dylan Edwards – Warren Wilson College

Edwards helped lead the Warren Wilson attack from a 7-2 deficit in the first quarter to a seven-goal run in the second quarter en route to a 16-11 win over Sweet Briar College. Dylan's five goals and six assists, totaling 11 points, is a program record for Warren Wilson. With six assists, Edwards broke the assists in a game record for the program as well. After just five games, Edwards leads the team in assists (12) and has 20 goals for the season. Dylan was also awarded the Coast-to-Coast Conference Offensive Player of the Week for this past week’s performance.

Defensive Player of the Week

Anna Schipf – Western Connecticut State University

Schipf was named the Little East Conference Goalie of the Week after totaling 11 saves in Western Connecticut’s 10-9 overtime triumph at U.S. Coast Guard Academy last week. Seven of those stops came in the second half, and she turned away the only shot on target she faced in the extra period.
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.


Why is it 29 teams instead of 30?
Both Florida and JMU making it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Both Florida and JMU making it

That's what the OP was saying. One of them will get auto bid from winning conference, the other will get an at large.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Both Florida and JMU making it
Yes one will win conference so they are 1 of the automatic bids the other will be an at large .
ASUN Conference Champs will make it. Historically, that’s Jacksonville and I do not expect the ASUN to be locked out this year.

There will invariably be some head scratching as some teams are left out (Arizona State last season) while some others that shouldn’t have made it in (looking at you, Notre Dame) pad their schedule work some late additions to clear 0.500 to qualify.

Should be a fun tournament this year.
So if Duke goes .500, you think they get in? Worst case they go 8-8, best case 9-7. I think 9-7 and they're in. But if VT can beat them, they'd only be 2-6 in conference.
I think a loss to VT on 4/1 would be bad for the resume. Louisville doesn’t appear to be a slam dunk this year. I think if they are 8-8 it’s a no. At 9-7 they have a better shot, but the resume is still potentially weak unless they beat Virginia. The Clemson game was close, but I think it requires a really good win to prop them up.
Duke needs to win all their remaining games other than UNC if they expect to get in . A loss to any of the other teams and they don't deserve to get in and as you see above not many slots left. Notre Dame ca lose to UNC and BC and still deserve to get in but would not have a problem if they were left out due to their pitiful non conference schedule.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament
So that leaves 4 , those spots go quickly, any other most likely teams. The other thing is if a team like SBU loses in their conference tournament then thats one less spot
Wow. ND haters gonna have a hard time today. Duke haters in the other hand. 10-10. 😳
So after today Duke pretty much out and ND definitely in.
So after today Duke pretty much out and ND definitely in.
Duke, YIKES!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?

Not so sure about Navy , borderline at best , weal schedule w 2 bad losses against 2 pretty good wins . The bad schedule is not going to help
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?


Just google the coach's name and you'll have your answer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?


Just google the coach's name and you'll have your answer
Didn't Colgate just put out a statement backing her up though? What does it take to have a coach removed? It took many years to remove the old Louisville coach and apparently the "new" coach isn't any better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?


Just google the coach's name and you'll have your answer
Didn't Colgate just put out a statement backing her up though? What does it take to have a coach removed? It took many years to remove the old Louisville coach and apparently the "new" coach isn't any better.

Depends on the school. Coastal Carolina removed the coach immediately after a group of teammates complained about her actions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?


Just google the coach's name and you'll have your answer
Didn't Colgate just put out a statement backing her up though? What does it take to have a coach removed? It took many years to remove the old Louisville coach and apparently the "new" coach isn't any better.

Depends on the school. Coastal Carolina removed the coach immediately after a group of teammates complained about her actions.

Read this if your daughter is one of her recruits.
https://www.2adays.com/coaches/kathy-taylor-56049
If half of it is true......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?


Just google the coach's name and you'll have your answer
Didn't Colgate just put out a statement backing her up though? What does it take to have a coach removed? It took many years to remove the old Louisville coach and apparently the "new" coach isn't any better.

Depends on the school. Coastal Carolina removed the coach immediately after a group of teammates complained about her actions.

Read this if your daughter is one of her recruits.
https://www.2adays.com/coaches/kathy-taylor-56049
If half of it is true......

I k ow a parent who has a current player on the team. Half of it IS true.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – April 3



It was a big week in the Division I landscape as Notre Dame made a four-spot jump into the Top 10 at No. 8, after upsetting North Carolina in South Bend on Saturday.

The shakeup dropped North Carolina into the fifth spot, while Denver and James Madison came in at No. 3 and No. 4, respectively. Syracuse was unanimously voted into the No. 1 position. Northwestern completes the Top 5 at No. 2 for the third straight week.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Syracuse (13 - 0) 600 (24) 1
2 Northwestern (11 - 1) 576 2
3 Denver (11 - 0) 547 4
4 James Madison (11 - 1) 513 5
5 North Carolina (9 - 2) 505 3
6 Stony Brook (8 - 2) 481 6
7 Boston College (9 - 3) 453 7
8 Notre Dame (8 - 3) 421 12
9 Florida (8 - 3) 411 8
10 Maryland (10 - 3) 379 10
11 Loyola (9 - 2) 362 9
12 Virginia (8 - 4) 345 11
13 Yale (8 - 2) 293 14
14 Army (11 - 0) 265 13
15 UMass (11 - 1) 239 16
16 Michigan (9 - 5) 236 15
17 Penn State (10 - 3) 208 18
18 Princeton (4 - 4) 165 17
19 Clemson (10 - 4) 143 22
20 Navy (10 - 2) 119 24
21 USC (9 - 3) 109 19
22 Penn (5 - 4) 104 23
23 Richmond (10 - 2) 78 NR
24 Duke (6 - 6) 55 20
25 UConn (7 - 3) 35 NR
RV Jacksonville, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, Virginia Tech, Rutgers
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – April 3



West Chester remains No. 1 in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll for the third-straight week, earning wins over Kutztown and UIndy to stay unbeaten in 2023.

No. 2 Pace and No. 3 Regis remain in the second and third positions, while Florida Southern and Tampa round out the Top 5 as UIndy dropped two spots into sixth.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 West Chester (10 - 0) 520 (16) 1
2 Pace (8 - 1) 505 (5) 2
3 Regis (CO) (9 - 0) 475 3
4 Florida Southern (10 - 1) 449 5
5 Tampa (10 - 2) 430 6
6 UIndy (10 - 2) 415 4
7 Rollins (11 - 0) 398 7
8 Le Moyne (7 - 2) 387 8
9 Adelphi (6 - 3) 348 9
10 Wingate (11 - 2) 334 10
11 Flagler (11 - 1) 301 15
12 East Stroudsburg (8 - 2) 266 14
13 Lynn (9 - 3) 252 11
14 Bentley (6 - 3) 233 12
15 Mercy (5 - 5) 222 13
16 Assumption (5 - 3) 213 16
17 Grand Valley (7 - 4) 203 17
18 Embry-Riddle (10 - 1) 193 18
19 Maryville (12 - 0) 167 21
20 Saint Leo (8 - 3) 119 19
21 Saint Anselm (8 - 1) 111 22
22 New Haven (4 - 4) 97 20
23 Seton Hill (7 - 3) 63 23
24 Southern New Hampshire (6 - 3) 49 24
25 Mount Olive (7 - 4) 20 NR
RV Saint Rose, Colorado Mesa, Limestone, Kutztown, Molloy
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – April 3



After picking up another two wins this past week, Middlebury returns as the unanimous No. 1 to lead the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll in Week 6.

TCNJ dropped to No. 4 after losing to Gettysburg, allowing Washington and Lee to remain No. 2, while William Smith bumps ahead to No. 3.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (10 - 0) 725 (29) 1
2 Washington and Lee (10 - 1) 673 2
3 William Smith (9 - 0) 659 4
4 TCNJ (8 - 2) 620 3
5 Tufts (6 - 2) 590 5
6 Salisbury (7 - 3) 564 6
7 Wesleyan (7 - 1) 556 7
8 York (7 - 2) 524 8
9 Gettysburg (7 - 3) 522 10
10 Franklin & Marshall (7 - 3) 468 9
11 Messiah (8 - 2) 406 11
12 Colby (6 - 3) 401 12
13 Trinity (CT) (7 - 2) 357 14
14 Williams (8 - 1) 326 17
15 Amherst (7 - 1) 295 18
16 Chicago (6 - 2) 288 16
17 Ithaca (7 - 3) 225 13
18 Roanoke (8 - 1) 213 19
19 Bowdoin (3 - 6) 192 15
20 Pomona-Pitzer (10 - 1) 175 21
21 Cortland (6 - 3) 161 20
22 Kenyon (10 - 0) 123 23
23 Hamilton (4 - 6) 109 22
24 St. John Fisher (5 - 2) 102 24
25 Stevens (9 - 1) 45 NR
RV MIT, St. Lawrence, Union, Catholic, Cabrini
DIVISION I


Offensive Player of the Week

Madison Ahern – University of Notre Dame

Ahern led the team with 11 points over a two-game stretch as the No. 12 Irish posted a 2-0 record on the week. She scored five goals and added an assist in the 21-7 win over Brown University. She followed up with five goals against the No. 3 Tar Heels, leading the Irish to a 16-12 victory over the reigning NCAA Division I Champions. Ahern currently sits two points shy of 200 career points with the Irish and averages 3.00 goals per game (4.00 ppg). Notre Dame jumped four spots to sit in the No. 8 position in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll.

Defensive Player of the Week

Emily Sterling – University of Maryland

Sterling was terrific in goal to lead No. 10 Maryland to a pair of top-20 wins, defeating No. 17 Princeton University and No. 15 University of Michigan. She combined for 27 saves to only 18 goals allowed on the week, a .600 save percentage. Her 15 saves against the Tigers tie her season-high and is recorded as the second-best mark of her career. This benchmark is also the best by a Big Ten goalie this season. Sterling now leads the Big Ten with a .498 save percentage.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Keri Barnett – West Chester University

Barnett scored four goals in a 15-11 victory over No. 4 UIndy on Saturday. She added six draw controls and grabbed three ground balls while causing a pair of turnovers to the matchup as well. She also added six goals and seven points in a conference win over Kutztown University, which was undefeated in league play entering the game with the No. 1 Golden Rams. She also caused three turnovers and grabbed five draws and three ground balls in the matchup as well. The Golden Rams continue to maintain their unbeaten record at 10-0 and entered this week at No. 1 for a third straight time in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division II rankings.

Defensive Player of the Week

Alex Walling – University of Tampa

The senior goalkeeper had a season-high save percentage of 91.7 in the No. 6 Spartans 18-1 dominating win at No. 19 Saint Leo University on Friday. She recorded 11 total saves in the game and helped move Tampa to a (10-2, 2-0 SSC) overall record. This is Walling’s second IWLCA National Player of the Week honor this season. The Spartans slid up to the No. 5 spot in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll.
DIVISION III


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Jordan Basso – Gettysburg College

Basso led the No. 10 Bullets to two victories on the week with a team-best 13 points on seven goals and six assists. She netted five goals and handed out three assists in a 17-9 win over No. 3 College of New Jersey on Wednesday before scoring twice and dishing out three helpers in a 21-8 win over Washington College on Saturday. She also had two caused turnovers and four ground balls.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Jade O’Connor – Springfield College

O'Connor netted a pair of overtime game-winners to lead Springfield to a 3-0 week. She tallied four goals, including the game-winner just 33 seconds into overtime versus Westfield State University before scoring twice in the lone quarter she played in the conference victory over Mount Holyoke College. In Sunday’s victory over Western Connecticut State University, she registered a career-high eight goals, including the game-winner on a free-position attempt in overtime, to push her season total to 41 goals.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Kaitlyn Hunsinger – Salisbury University

Hunsinger bolstered the No. 6 Salisbury defense with nine saves while allowing just eight goals in the net as the Sea Gulls defeated No. 9 Franklin & Marshall College on Sunday. The senior also scooped up four ground balls and caused a turnover in the matchup.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Sydney Widlitz – Union College

Widlitz saved a season-high 16 shots in Wednesday's 12-9 win over Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, the most saves in a win by a Union goalie since 2008. She then made four of her 12 saves in the final 2:11 to preserve Saturday's 13-11 win over No. 13 Ithaca College, Union's first win over a nationally ranked team since 2011. Opponents were successful on only 4-of-21 eight-meter attempts in the two games, including 10 saves – with five coming in the fourth quarter.
Let's talk about Colgate and how unhealthy the majority of the programs are. Let's talk about the NCAA not really having our daughter's back. Let's talk about how afraid our competitive daughters are to say something in fear of retaliation by the coach...less playing time, or no playing time. The head games of holding back equipment and gear. The promise of extra money during recruiting and then there not be any money left because you didn't get it in writing and you are at the mercy of the coach? How about Morgan's Message yet it's the coach and their non motivating "talks". Where are the sensitivity classes for all coaches? Does the NCAA have requirements for coaches and how to handle situations? How about the NCAA NOT PROTECTING OUR DAUGHTERS AGAINST SEXUAL PREDATORS IN THE LOCKER ROOM because a MALE with his genitals identifies as a woman? When are we really going to have frank and open conversations about these issues? We all make believe OMG they are playing D1 it's all wonderful?
Wow! This Princeton St. Joes game is concussion city. Princeton not happy they’re about to lose. Show some class!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's talk about Colgate and how unhealthy the majority of the programs are. Let's talk about the NCAA not really having our daughter's back. Let's talk about how afraid our competitive daughters are to say something in fear of retaliation by the coach...less playing time, or no playing time. The head games of holding back equipment and gear. The promise of extra money during recruiting and then there not be any money left because you didn't get it in writing and you are at the mercy of the coach? How about Morgan's Message yet it's the coach and their non motivating "talks". Where are the sensitivity classes for all coaches? Does the NCAA have requirements for coaches and how to handle situations? How about the NCAA NOT PROTECTING OUR DAUGHTERS AGAINST SEXUAL PREDATORS IN THE LOCKER ROOM because a MALE with his genitals identifies as a woman? When are we really going to have frank and open conversations about these issues? We all make believe OMG they are playing D1 it's all wonderful?

The Colgate situation is toxic. Let's talk about the coach and her record. First year (covid) 2020 with an inherited roster 3-4 .429 win percentage. Second year 2021 95% inherited roster 5-6 .455 win percentage. Third year 6-12 2022 30% her recruits 6-12 .333 win percentage. This year 2023 90% her recruits 2-8 .20 win percentage. Overall 16-30 35% wins, not a stellar performance by KT & staff. With all of the complaints against this coach why would Colgate keep this coach?
How many teams will the PAC 12 get into the tournament this year . How many deserve to get in ? My guess is they will get two and those two will go down early . Sorry but USC has beaten no one and for a team who used to try and challenge themselves in past years they have not even tried this year . At least Stanford played some good non conference teams along the way . They will both end up with good records but has either won a game that tells you they deserve to make the NCAA tournament ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those top 15 teams hoping to make a move and possibly get a seed come NCAA tournament time there do not seem to many opportunities remaining in the regular season to do so. I see UVA vs BC and MD vs NW , any others. After that I guess the conference tournaments will be a possibility to make the move up. Any bubble teams to making the tournament with big upcoming legit chances. The fact that 29 teams make the tournament makes it seem as if any top 40 team has a legit chance but those spots go fast . You have fifteen conference champions who are automatically in leaving 14 at large bids , figure 4 will go to ACC teams,leaving 10, 3 to the big ten leaving 7, florida or jmu leaving 6 , yale or princeton leaving 5 . Any other almost locks to make the tournament.

Not a lock as there is a long way to go but patriot league is looking like it will put an additional team into the tournament


Patriot league may get 3 teams in. Loyola, Army & Navy all deserve a shot.

What’s going on up at Colgate? The announcers in yesterday’s Navy game said they have a field player in goal?

Not so sure about Navy , borderline at best , weal schedule w 2 bad losses against 2 pretty good wins . The bad schedule is not going to help

Rough week for Army and Navy. They both still have to play Loyola and each other. Then some more crossover amongst the 3 teams in their league tournament. I think Loyola rolls and maybe Army sneaks in if they beat Navy but not all 3.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams will the PAC 12 get into the tournament this year . How many deserve to get in ? My guess is they will get two and those two will go down early . Sorry but USC has beaten no one and for a team who used to try and challenge themselves in past years they have not even tried this year . At least Stanford played some good non conference teams along the way . They will both end up with good records but has either won a game that tells you they deserve to make the NCAA tournament ?

USC played Boston College and Princeton, that is clearly better than "not even tried this year". I do agree that they have no quality wins. I think the PAC-12 gets only one team although there is an outside possibility for a second.
I think Cuse and NW still a step above everyone right now, but both showing possibly not as dominant as I thought. Still leading the pack. No more easy games left in schedule from many teams as tough games to close season then into conference tourney. Any update on SU defender/circle specialist. Praying not another ACL for SU.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think Cuse and NW still a step above everyone right now, but both showing possibly not as dominant as I thought. Still leading the pack. No more easy games left in schedule from many teams as tough games to close season then into conference tourney. Any update on SU defender/circle specialist. Praying not another ACL for SU.

I don’t think the injured player is who you think , that said I hope she okay . Way too many injuries on that team , not sure CN why .
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – April 10



Middlebury earned the seventh-straight No. 1 vote in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll, earning all 21 first-place votes in Week 7.

The following six slots remain the same from last week’s rankings, with Washington and Lee, William Smith, TCNJ and Tufts rounding out the Top 5.

Gettysburg and York traded places in the No. 8 and No. 9 positions, respectively, after York lost 11-5 to Salisbury on Saturday.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (11 - 0) 525 (21) 1
2 Washington and Lee (11 - 1) 501 2
3 William Smith (11 - 0) 486 3
4 TCNJ (9 - 2) 457 4
5 Tufts (8 - 2) 442 5
6 Salisbury (8 - 3) 420 6
7 Wesleyan (8 - 2) 391 7
8 Gettysburg (9 - 3) 370 9
9 York (8 - 3) 361 8
10 Franklin & Marshall (9 - 3) 340 10
11 Messiah (9 - 2) 307 11
12 Colby (8 - 3) 295 12
13 Trinity (CT) (9 - 2) 278 13
14 Williams (8 - 1) 259 14
15 Amherst (7 - 3) 223 15
16 Chicago (8 - 2) 209 16
17 Roanoke (9 - 2) 175 18
18 Pomona-Pitzer (11 - 1) 156 20
19 Cortland (8 - 3) 119 21
20 Ithaca (8 - 4) 113 17
21 Bowdoin (4 - 7) 103 19
22 Kenyon (11 - 0) 97 22
23 St. John Fisher (7 - 2) 74 24
24 Stevens (10 - 1) 44 25
25 Hamilton (4 - 7) 33 23
RV MIT, Catholic, Haverford, Washington College, Bates
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – April 10



West Chester earned its fourth consecutive first-place ranking, moving to 11-0 on the season. Pace and Regis follow in the second and third slots, respectively while Florida Southern and Tampa swapped spots in No. 4 and No. 5 positions respectively, after Tampa topped the Mocs last week.

No. 13 Embry-Riddle and No. 14 Maryville both jumped ahead five spots from last week, as Embry-Riddle topped Lynn, while Maryville nearly upset UIndy.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 West Chester (11 - 0) 496 (16) 1
2 Pace (10 - 1) 484 (4) 2
3 Regis (CO) (11 - 0) 451 3
4 Tampa (12 - 2) 439 5
5 Florida Southern (11 - 2) 425 4
6 UIndy (12 - 2) 382 6
7 Le Moyne (9 - 2) 371 8
8 Rollins (12 - 1) 369 7
9 Adelphi (8 - 3) 348 9
10 Wingate (12 - 2) 301 10
11 Flagler (12 - 1) 282 11
12 East Stroudsburg (10 - 2) 251 12
13 Embry-Riddle (11 - 2) 240 18
14 Maryville (13 - 1) 230 19
15 Mercy (6 - 5) 207 15
16 Lynn (10 - 4) 203 13
17 Bentley (7 - 4) 192 14
18 Grand Valley (8 - 4) 172 17
19 Saint Anselm (9 - 1) 162 21
20 Assumption (5 - 5) 114 16
21 Saint Leo (9 - 4) 106 20
22 New Haven (5 - 5) 66 22
23 Seton Hill (9 - 3) 65 23
24 Southern New Hampshire (7 - 4) 46 24
25 Mount Olive (8 - 4) 24 25
RV Limestone, Saint Rose, Kutztown, Florida Tech, Colorado Mesa
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – April 10



The top 12 teams stayed put from last week’s rankings, as Syracuse earned the No. 1 ranking with all 21 first-place votes. Northwestern, Denver, James Madison and North Carolina follow to round out the Top 5.

Syracuse’s top-ranking marks its fourth-straight as they head into one of their toughest tests yet, slated to face UNC on Saturday.

There were, however, significant shifts between the No. 13 and No. 25 rankings over the past week, most notably, No. 17 Penn jumping five spots after beating Yale 16-6 last Saturday.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Syracuse (14 - 0) 525 (21) 1
2 Northwestern (13 - 1) 504 2
3 Denver (13 - 0) 471 3
4 James Madison (13 - 1) 449 4
5 North Carolina (9 - 2) 447 5
6 Stony Brook (8 - 2) 414 6
7 Boston College (10 - 3) 411 7
8 Notre Dame (8 - 4) 371 8
9 Florida (9 - 3) 356 9
10 Maryland (12 - 3) 339 10
11 Loyola (10 - 2) 318 11
12 Virginia (10 - 4) 305 12
13 Michigan (10 - 5) 238 16
14 UMass (12 - 1) 235 15
15 Army (12 - 1) 204 14
16 Yale (9 - 3) 196 13
17 Penn (7 - 4) 183 22
18 Penn State (10 - 4) 175 17
19 Clemson (10 - 5) 131 19
20 USC (11 - 3) 129 21
21 Richmond (11 - 3) 101 23
22 Princeton (5 - 5) 75 18
23 Navy (10 - 3) 51 20
24 UConn (8 - 4) 44 25
25 Johns Hopkins (5 - 7) 35 NR
RV Stanford, Duke, Jacksonville, Marquette, Virginia Tech
DIVISION I


Offensive Player of the Week

Cassidy Weeks – Boston College

Weeks delivered the game-winning goal with 12 seconds left, completing a four-goal comeback to help lead No. 7 Boston to a 12-11 road win over No. 8 Notre Dame. She recorded a total of three points (two goals, one assist), three draw controls, three ground balls and three caused turnovers in the matchup.

Defensive Player of the Week

Abby Bosco – University of Maryland

Bosco’s all-around game helped lead No. 10 Maryland to a pair of wins over Johns Hopkins University and Ohio State University, totaling six groundballs, seven caused turnovers, and 11 draw controls over the two matchups. Against Ohio State, she tallied seven draw controls, four groundballs, and four caused turnovers, all game-highs, while holding Ohio State to just seven goals and 16 shots. She caused a game-high three turnovers, won four draw controls, and picked up two groundballs against Johns Hopkins. Her defensive presence helped hold Johns Hopkins to only one goal over the final eight minutes of the game to help the Terps comeback from down 11-10. Bosco currently ranks second in the Big Ten Conference in caused turnovers (31) and third in groundballs (34) on the season.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Sarah Hinkle – University of Tampa

In the 15-14 upset win at home over No. 4 Florida Southern College, Hinkle tallied four goals on five shots with all five shots being on target. In addition, Hinkle tallied 10 draw controls and two groundballs. Hinkle then went on to score a career-high six goals on six total shots in the road win over Palm Beach Atlantic University. She went 1-1 on free position attempts and added one groundball, one draw control, and one caused turnover as well. Between the two games, she averaged a shooting percentage of 90.0 and totaled a shots-on-goal percentage of 100.0.

Defensive Player of the Week

Leah Knowles – Wingate University

Knowles posted seven caused turnovers while adding five ground balls, six draw controls to go along with two goals, and an assist in No. 10 Wingate’s 13-6 win over Anderson University. Knowles is currently third in the nation in caused turnovers per game with 3.21.
DIVISION III


Offensive Player of the Week

Maddie Wright – University of Massachusetts Dartmouth

Wright was named the Little East Conference Offensive Player of the Week and Rookie of the Week after she scored a game-high eight goals with two assists for 10 points in the Corsairs' 20-3 league victory over Rhode Island College. Of her 10 shots, nine were on goal. She also had four ground balls, a caused turnover, and a game-best 10 draw controls. This is her third LEC Offensive Player of the Week award, and fifth LEC Rookie of the Week honor this season.

Defensive Player of the Week

Kaitlyn Hunsinger – Salisbury University

Hunsinger turned in her third double-digit save performance of the season in the No. 6 Sea Gulls’ 11-5 win over No. 8 York College of Pennsylvania. Hunsinger tallied 11 saves and allowed just five goals to improve her goals-against average to 7.85 on the season. The goalkeeper also caused a turnover and picked up three ground balls in the contest. This is Hunsinger's third IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season.
the new rankings should be interesting. SBU will drop, how far ? Their best win is against Michigan who will be dropping also, with the possibility of no top 20 wins they may drop out of the top10 at this point. Maryland should be dropping also . How high do they move PSU and Hopkins and possibly Rutgers gets back in the mix.How much do the programs past reputations ie SBU matter vs results. Watch for UNC to drop in the near future.
SB does not have the horses. When the best player is faceguarded, they have no answer.
UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
Past reputations are one of the biggest issues with the rankings as they factor in too much. At this point in the season it should be based on performance during the 23 season only.
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.
Funny next time my daughter doesn’t change levels and throws a dunk right into the goalies stick, I’m gonna remember that three top UNC girls have done that on their last three possessions.
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.
UNC was penalized for using metal cleat spikes at 10:00 minutes into game against Clemson, you have to wonder if that has been going on for some time considering the entire team had them on. That grass surface creates a different speed of play and limits lateral movement in comparison to turf. Could be attributable to the fact it was just raining, but historically away opponents do not move well on that grass and UNC does. I always drew it up to a sort of home field advantage as they are used to the surface but cant help but wonder how long this has been going on. Cleat checks will probably be requested at Dorrance for the foreseeable future now.
I wouldn't put much into the Cleat gate. Metal spikes might be slightly more effective than plastic studs-technology with footwear is fool good now. But not much especially on a field that is cut down as much as UNC. From TV it looks like turf it is so short. One thing I will note, this game was way closer than I thought it would be considering how I feel SU has recovered well from draw taker injury.I thought possibly SU had a chance this game to put running clock on UNC. When I looked at the stats on line I was surprised at the numbers as I didn't get to watch game live on Saturday. The one that jumped out at me was 15 saves by SU goalie and 5 by UNC. I still need to watch it but is that stat correct? I can't possibly believe that is correct.

BC v Cuse outside should be a great game. I am sure BC is glad not inside. SU unbeatable in Dome it seems.
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UNC was penalized for using metal cleat spikes at 10:00 minutes into game against Clemson, you have to wonder if that has been going on for some time considering the entire team had them on. That grass surface creates a different speed of play and limits lateral movement in comparison to turf. Could be attributable to the fact it was just raining, but historically away opponents do not move well on that grass and UNC does. I always drew it up to a sort of home field advantage as they are used to the surface but cant help but wonder how long this has been going on. Cleat checks will probably be requested at Dorrance for the foreseeable future now.

I believe Clemson players were also wearing metal studs and had to change during that game.
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Difference is that the entire UNC team was wearing them which means it was orchestrated by the team and coaches who obviously knew it was against the rules. That was not the case with Clemson.
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.

Above is not entirely accurate. Over the years Stony Brook has had some good wins against good teams but they absolutely struggle against the top teams.

Since 2012 (excluding 2020 COVID year) SBU is:

0 - 16 vs Top 5 opponents.

7 - 24 vs Top 10 opponents.

14 - 27 vs Top15 opponents.

25 - 28 vs Top 20 opponents.

They really do not lose to anyone outside the Top 10 - 15.
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2
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Difference is that the entire UNC team was wearing them which means it was orchestrated by the team and coaches who obviously knew it was against the rules. That was not the case with Clemson.


Yep. Think there was only three Clemson kids who had to switch.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – April 17



Week 10 brought on some major shifts inside the top rankings, as North Carolina and Stony Brook both moved down after suffering losses.

No. 1 Syracuse topped the Tar Heels in Chapel Hill on Saturday, 14-12, while Northwestern, Denver, and James Madison rounded out the top four again, all earning wins this week. Boston College shifts up to No. 5 after a 2-0 week.

Stony Brook suffered a midweek upset by Rutgers to drop to No. 9. Penn State jumped four spots to No. 14 after upsetting Maryland on Thursday, while Johns Hopkins bumped up three with its win over Michigan.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Previous

1 Syracuse (15 - 0) 550 (22) 1
2 Northwestern (14 - 1) 528 2
3 Denver (15 - 0) 500 3
4 James Madison (14 - 1) 480 4
5 Boston College (12 - 3) 442 7
6 North Carolina (11 - 3) 435 5
7 Notre Dame (11 - 4) 404 8
8 Florida (11 - 3) 388 9
9 Stony Brook (10 - 3) 376 6
10 Loyola (12 - 2) 375 11
11 Virginia (10 - 5) 313 12
12 Maryland (12 - 3) 289 10
13 UMass (13 - 1) 268 14
14 Penn State (10 - 4) 257 18
15 Penn (8 - 4) 239 17
16 Army (12 - 2) 196 15
17 Clemson (11 - 5) 172 19
18 Michigan (10 - 5) 167 13
19 Yale (9 - 4) 149 16
20 USC (13 - 3) 133 20
21 Richmond (12 - 3) 118 21
22 Johns Hopkins (6 - 7) 102 25
23 Navy (12 - 3) 75 23
24 Princeton (6 - 6) 48 22
25 UConn (8 - 5) 39 24
RV Marquette, Rutgers, Jacksonville, Virginia Tech, Stanford
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – April 17



West Chester and Pace stayed put in the No. 1 and No. 2 spots, respectively, while No. 3 Tampa and No. 4 Regis traded spots to round out the top four.

Beyond that, the rankings stayed steady between No. 5 and No. 11 in Week 9’s ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll, while No. 12 Maryville, No. 15 Grand Valley, No. 17 Saint Anselm, No. 20 New Haven and No. 25 New Haven all made upward moves.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 West Chester (13 - 0) 594 (18) 1
2 Pace (11 - 1) 579 (6) 2
3 Tampa (13 - 2) 536 4
4 Regis (CO) (12 - 0) 512 3
5 Florida Southern (13 - 2) 507 5
6 UIndy (13 - 2) 475 6
7 Le Moyne (11 - 2) 465 7
8 Rollins (13 - 2) 410 8
9 Adelphi (9 - 4) 389 9
10 Wingate (14 - 2) 383 10
11 Flagler (14 - 1) 369 11
12 Maryville (15 - 1) 333 14
13 East Stroudsburg (11 - 2) 325 12
14 Embry-Riddle (12 - 3) 273 13
15 Grand Valley (11 - 4) 231 18
16 Lynn (10 - 5) 213 16
17 Saint Anselm (9 - 3) 210 19
18 Bentley (8 - 4) 195b17
19 Mercy (7 - 6) 173 15
20 New Haven (8 - 5) 139 22
21 Assumption (7 - 5) 131 20
22 Saint Leo (10 - 5) 109b21
23 Seton Hill (11 - 3) 70 23
24 Southern New Hampshire (8 - 5) 44 24
25 Limestone (12 - 2) 24 NR
RV Mount Olive, Florida Tech, Kutztown, Alabama Huntsville, Saint Rose
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – April 17



There was minimal movement in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll in Week 8, as No. 1 Middlebury led the pack followed by Washington and Lee, William Smith, and TCNJ in the Top 4.

No. 5 Salisbury and No. 6 Wesleyan each bumped up one spot, while Tufts dropped two slots to No. 7 after losing to Wesleyan on Saturday.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (13 - 0) 525 (21) 1
2 Washington and Lee (12 - 1) 501 2
3 William Smith (13 - 0) 486 3
4 TCNJ (11 - 2) 456 4
5 Salisbury (9 - 3) 431 6
6 Wesleyan (11 - 2) 422 7
7 Tufts (10 - 3) 407 5
8 Gettysburg (10 - 3) 384 8
9 York (10 - 3) 347 9
10 Franklin & Marshall (10 - 3) 341 10
11 Messiah (10 - 2) 305 11
12 Colby (9 - 4) 292 12
13 Trinity (CT) (10 - 3) 271 13
14 Amherst (9 - 3) 244 15
15 Williams (10 - 3) 243 14
16 Roanoke (11 - 2) 188 17
16 Chicago (11 - 2) 188 16
18 Pomona-Pitzer (13 - 1) 162 18
19 Cortland (10 - 3) 130 19
20 Ithaca (9 - 5) 101 20
21 Kenyon (12 - 0) 99 22
22 St. John Fisher (9 - 2) 93 23
23 Bowdoin (4 - 8) 74 21
24 Stevens (12 - 1) 66 24
25 MIT (12 - 2) 17 NR
RV Hamilton, Haverford, Catholic, Geneseo, St. Lawrence
The we’re out-drawed by unc by. A good margins I don’t think the draw issue for Cuse has been resolved
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2

Big stretch!

Goalie play was the big difference, Syracuse 15 Saves, UNC 5 saves.

It was a two goal game.... "Far superior" is a foolish statement.
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Allie Boyce – Bucknell University

Boyce tied a 39-year-old Bucknell record by scoring 10 goals in Bucknell's 20-11 win over American University on Saturday. Boyce came into the game ranked second nationally in shooting percentage and then went a perfect 10-for-10 on Saturday. She scored seven goals in the first half to help the Bison to a 13-6 halftime lead, and she fell one goal shy of the Patriot League record, two shy of the NCAA record, and one short of the most in a game in Division I lacrosse this season. Boyce now has 43 goals on the season, nine away from the Bucknell record, and she became Bucknell's first 40-goal scorer since 2016.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Cassidy Spillis – Rutgers University

Spillis registered a combined eight points on seven goals and an assist along with 11 draw controls, two caused turnovers, and two ground balls in back-to-back wins over No. 6 Stony Brook University and the University of Vermont. She tallied a game-high five points on four goals and an assist along with six draw controls, a caused turnover, and an assist to help Rutgers to a historic 12-7 win over Stony Brook, the first win over a top-six opponent in the regular season in program history. She then followed with a hat trick and five draw controls in a 15-7 road win at Vermont.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Haley Urgo – Pennsylvania State University

Urgo was a major contributor to the No. 18 Penn State defense and its efforts to hold No. 10 University of Maryland to its lowest goal total since 1997, upsetting the Terps, 12-7, in Thursday night’s Big Ten matchup. She recorded a career-best five caused turnovers and scooped three ground balls in her strong defensive efforts. With the win, the Nittany Lions shifted up four spots to sit in the No. 14 position in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll and will take on Johns Hopkins University for their final regular season game this Saturday.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Delaney Sweitzer – Syracuse University

Sweitzer tied her career high with 15 saves in No. 1 Syracuse’s win against No. 5 University of North Carolina. Three of her saves came on free-position attempts. She also matched her career high with six ground balls to go along with two caused turnovers. After the Orange took a 13-12 lead with 3:51 remaining, Sweitzer made a save and picked up a ground ball on the Tar Heels’ next possession to preserve the lead as the Orange snapped North Carolina’s 41-game home winning streak. She now has six 10-plus save performances this season. The perfect Orange will face Boston College on Thursday in its regular season finale.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Sydney Tiemann – Maryville University

Tiemann set a school record with 11 goals in No. 14 Maryville’s 25-15 win at Missouri Western State University. The scoring mark is currently the most in Division II this season. She also tacked on an assist for a program-record 12 points in a game and accounted for the game-winning goal against the Griffons. Tiemann also grabbed a season-high 11 draw controls with three ground balls, and one caused turnover in the matchup. Tiemann capped the week by scoring six goals and one assist for seven points at Quincy University. With this performance, Tiemann became just the third player in Division II history to tally 100 goals in a season. She added nine draw controls with one ground ball, and one caused turnover. Tiemann and the Saints completed an undefeated season on the road (9-0) and will close out the regular season against Rockhurst University at home. Maryville shifted up two spots to No. 12 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll.

Defensive Player of the Week

Dani Waters – University of Tampa

Waters and No. 4 Spartans defeated No. 8 Rollins at home 17-7. Tampa's victory over Rollins College is the largest win margin over the Tars in program history. Waters picked up her 100th career-caused turnover against the Tars and is the first player in program history to hit that mark. Waters totaled three ground balls and four caused turnovers in the matchup. Tampa is ranked No. 3 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll and has two games remaining in the regular season.
DIVISION III


Offensive Player of the Week

Jordan Basso – Gettysburg College

Basso led the No. 8 Bullets to a come-from-behind win at Haverford College. Basso registered a career-high 10 points on a career-best eight goals and added two assists in the 19-13 win. She also had two ground balls and a caused turnover. Gettysburg (10-3, 5-0) continues conference play with a meeting against No. 10 Franklin & Marshall this Wednesday. This is Basso’s second IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season.

Defensive Player of the Week

Anna Schipf – Western Connecticut State University

Schipf was named the Little East Conference Goalie of the Week after stopping 13 of the 15 shots on goal she faced in a 2-0 week for the Wolves, posting a save percentage of 87 percent over her 73 total minutes played. This is her second I
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2

Big stretch!

Goalie play was the big difference, Syracuse 15 Saves, UNC 5 saves.

It was a two goal game.... "Far superior" is a foolish statement.
2 goal game or a 1 goal game-doesn’t matter-Cuse won. They are superior this season, just like if unc or Md were #1, people would say they are superior. Let them enjoy the success and the praise that is deserved
Girls Class B Playoff Standings if they started today.

1-Eastport/SManor 5-2-0 5-3-0 125.470
2-Smithtown West 4-2-0 6-2-0 122.140
3-West Islip 5-1-0 7-1-0 120.440
4-Islip 4-2-0 6-2-0 113.740
5-Comsewogue 2-4-0 2-5-0 107.850
6-Bellport 4-3-0 4-4-0 106.010

OUTSIDE LOOKING IN
7-West Babylon 2-4-0 2-5-0 104.760
8-East Islip 3-3-0 4-4-0 96.830
9-Hauppauge 2-4-0 2-6-0 88.020
10-North Babylon 1-4-0 1-4-0 82.910
11-Deer Park 0-5-0 0-6-0 72.440
12-EH/BH/PIER/Ross 0-6-0 0-6-0 71.160
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2

Big stretch!

Goalie play was the big difference, Syracuse 15 Saves, UNC 5 saves.

It was a two goal game.... "Far superior" is a foolish statement.
2 goal game or a 1 goal game-doesn’t matter-Cuse won. They are superior this season, just like if unc or Md were #1, people would say they are superior. Let them enjoy the success and the praise that is deserved

Not the poster but it doesn’t matter? Two goal game one goal game. I don’t know. You called a team far superior and it was tied with about five minutes left. They won by two. Far superior would be beating a team decisively. That wasn’t this.
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2

Big stretch!

Goalie play was the big difference, Syracuse 15 Saves, UNC 5 saves.

It was a two goal game.... "Far superior" is a foolish statement.
2 goal game or a 1 goal game-doesn’t matter-Cuse won. They are superior this season, just like if unc or Md were #1, people would say they are superior. Let them enjoy the success and the praise that is deserved

Not the poster but it doesn’t matter? Two goal game one goal game. I don’t know. You called a team far superior and it was tied with about five minutes left. They won by two. Far superior would be beating a team decisively. That wasn’t this.

What he said… ;-)

The original post stated “far superior”. But, as usual on BOTC…. people like to move the goal post.
Nothing negative was said about Syracuse, it was simply pointed out that “far superior” “was a bit of a stretch”. Both are excellent programs and very good schools, Syracuse has the edge for the time being but only time will tell who ends up the superior team this year. Northwestern might just win the whole thing.

Good luck to All!
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.

Above is not entirely accurate. Over the years Stony Brook has had some good wins against good teams but they absolutely struggle against the top teams.

Since 2012 (excluding 2020 COVID year) SBU is:

0 - 16 vs Top 5 opponents.

7 - 24 vs Top 10 opponents.

14 - 27 vs Top15 opponents.

25 - 28 vs Top 20 opponents.

They really do not lose to anyone outside the Top 10 - 15.


Guess you never heard of Rutgers
Funny I was even going to put the BOTC thing in my response. I also think Northwestern is winning it all.
At the end of the day, I think a lot of people would agree that having a new team win for once would be awesome - whether that be Cuse or Northwestern. Seeing the same teams over and over gets boring.
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At the end of the day, I think a lot of people would agree that having a new team win for once would be awesome - whether that be Cuse or Northwestern. Seeing the same teams over and over gets boring.

Northwestern a new team in the finals? Guess you’re new to women’s lacrosse
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At the end of the day, I think a lot of people would agree that having a new team win for once would be awesome - whether that be Cuse or Northwestern. Seeing the same teams over and over gets boring.

Northwestern a new team in the finals? Guess you’re new to women’s lacrosse
Northwestern hasn’t won since 2012…so no I’m not new to lacrosse
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.

Above is not entirely accurate. Over the years Stony Brook has had some good wins against good teams but they absolutely struggle against the top teams.

Since 2012 (excluding 2020 COVID year) SBU is:

0 - 16 vs Top 5 opponents.

7 - 24 vs Top 10 opponents.

14 - 27 vs Top15 opponents.

25 - 28 vs Top 20 opponents.

They really do not lose to anyone outside the Top 10 - 15.


Guess you never heard of Rutgers

The above results were SBU vs their opponents "Final / End of season Ranking" .. Rutgers may actually finish the season Ranked if they can beat JMU and one or two BIG 10 opponents in the BIG 10 Tournament.

So, the three Stony Brook losses this year were not counted above ....
Levy’s proposals include:
Restructuring the current yellow card, green card & red card system
Replacing change of possession with time-served penalties (30 seconds, 1 minute, releasable and non-releasable)
Further penalize teams after accumulating four minutes of penalties (both technical and personal) per quarter, team penalties will be unreleasable, to be reset each quarter.
Any individual player who accumulates five minutes of personal fouls during the game has fouled out and cannot re-enter the game.
Move to 10v10 from 12v12 on-field setup
Three players behind the restraining line when teams are on offense and during a draw
The proposal also provides suggestions on how types of fouls should be restructured and appropriately penalized, breaking into two types of technical and personal fouls:

Technical Foul #1 — penalized with change of possession and shot clock reset:
Blocking/illegal pick
Charging, barging, pushing into, forcing through
Covering
Empty stick check
False start
Illegal body ball
Illegal cradle
Illegal draw
Illegal stick
Pass from out of bounds
Play from out of bounds
Warding
Delay of game fouls
Goal circle fouls


Technical Fouls #2 — penalized with 30 second releasable penalty& a shot clock reset:
Shooting space & 3 seconds fouls
Delay of game
Non-engagement
Green card
Offsides
Personal Fouls #1 — Penalized with a one-minute releasable penalty & shot clock reset:
Cross Check
Illegal Body Check — initiating contact from the rear or at/below the waist
Dangerous stick in the sphere
Illegal use of the stick (ie. slash, striking opponent in any part of face, neck, chest, back, shoulders, arms, hands, groin with the cross including the [Censored] end)
Holding
Pushing
Push from behind with or without the ball
Check to the head (inadvertent)
Dangerous follow through
Dangerous propelling
Flopping/embellishment
Personal Fouls #2 — Misconduct and Expulsion fouls, penalized with 2-3 minute unreleasable penalty or red card:
Deliberate/Excessive violent push from behind
Targeted cross check with no attempt to make a play on the ball
Reckless check to the head
Slash/illegal use of stick escalation
Unsportsmanlike conduct
Unnecessary roughness
Excessively violent infraction of the rules
Excessively rough or dangerous, unsportsmanlike play
Repeated, persistent, or flagrant violation of the rules
Deliberately endangering the safety of an opposing player
WestHampton High School star had a heck of a game against the #1 team in the country. 😉
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WestHampton High School star had a heck of a game against the #1 team in the country. 😉

Apparently you did not watch the game , was not the best player on her team in that game which she has not been in any game this year , somewhat disappointing after the departure of the great one . .
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WestHampton High School star had a heck of a game against the #1 team in the country. 😉

Apparently you did not watch the game , was not the best player on her team in that game which she has not been in any game this year , somewhat disappointing after the departure of the great one . .

The game came down to the draw. Period. Cuse was horrible. Very, very bad and embarrassing loss at this point in the season. Will affect their season and cost them a conference title. Curios how they will rebound.
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WestHampton High School star had a heck of a game against the #1 team in the country. 😉

Apparently you did not watch the game , was not the best player on her team in that game which she has not been in any game this year , somewhat disappointing after the departure of the great one . .

The game came down to the draw. Period. Cuse was horrible. Very, very bad and embarrassing loss at this point in the season. Will affect their season and cost them a conference title. Curios how they will rebound.
Cuse won most of the draws - what are you talking about? Does it [Censored] that they lost? Of course. Give credit where credit is due - BC never gave up and fought hard till the very end. Some great games on last night - UNC/Duke, Rutgers/OS and Cuse/BC - those are the kind of games i love to watch.
Apparently BC is just far superior to Cuse, end of story.
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WestHampton High School star had a heck of a game against the #1 team in the country. 😉

Apparently you did not watch the game , was not the best player on her team in that game which she has not been in any game this year , somewhat disappointing after the departure of the great one . .

The game came down to the draw. Period. Cuse was horrible. Very, very bad and embarrassing loss at this point in the season. Will affect their season and cost them a conference title. Curios how they will rebound.
Cuse won most of the draws - what are you talking about? Does it [Censored] that they lost? Of course. Give credit where credit is due - BC never gave up and fought hard till the very end. Some great games on last night - UNC/Duke, Rutgers/OS and Cuse/BC - those are the kind of games i love to watch.

They lost the draws when it mattered. Cost them the game
Emma Ward turned the ball over down the stretch with some careless feeds, that's what really did Cuse in. Very impressed with BC's determination in the second half. Losing crucial draws late did not help obviously, but the Ward turnovers on multiple possessions killed them.
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WestHampton High School star had a heck of a game against the #1 team in the country. 😉

Apparently you did not watch the game , was not the best player on her team in that game which she has not been in any game this year , somewhat disappointing after the departure of the great one . .

The game came down to the draw. Period. Cuse was horrible. Very, very bad and embarrassing loss at this point in the season. Will affect their season and cost them a conference title. Curios how they will rebound.
Cuse won most of the draws - what are you talking about? Does it [Censored] that they lost? Of course. Give credit where credit is due - BC never gave up and fought hard till the very end. Some great games on last night - UNC/Duke, Rutgers/OS and Cuse/BC - those are the kind of games i love to watch.

They lost the draws when it mattered. Cost them the game
You are right, which is fool considering they weren't doing well on the draws at all. I thought for sure Cuse would win the last draw & it would go into overtime. Great game to watch though- an "upset" is fun to watch sometimes. Cuse was up by 6, thought for sure it was going to turn into a blow out.
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WestHampton High School star had a heck of a game against the #1 team in the country. 😉

Apparently you did not watch the game , was not the best player on her team in that game which she has not been in any game this year , somewhat disappointing after the departure of the great one . .

Apparently your animonsity for a 20 year old didn’t read the statement. It says she had a heck of a game. Didn’t say she was the best player. She did have the game winning assist. Along with 4 others. Keep hating.
It's amazing how many "adults" go on here and bash individual players. It's a team game...no one person lost the game and no one person won the game. BC as a team had a great game and Cuse as a team fell short. Period.
So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost
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So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

So true. Full disclosure. That was not from Not Belles Mom.
No questions Refs are calling games much tighter than first half of season. Spot light is on them. Teams that were getting away with cross checks, slap check to hands , and other cheap fouls are being called. This was part of many teams game plans.

Makes post season exciting with clean lacrosse ahead.
Complete team effort by BC. To win the ACC after North graduates says a lot about their team and their depth. Biggest question is whether Cuse can win the big game. Do you see them being able to battle back in a tight game like BC did - down 5 goals. Cuse is an incredibly talented team that looks great on the highlight reel shooting BTB, flipping their sticks after goals etc, but do they have the same heart, determination and discipline that BC does. I say NO. To win it all you have to be able to win a game like the one BC just won. BC's overall team effort, led by a few great players, in the second half was near perfection. When was the last time Cuse showed the same heart, determination and discipline.
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So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.
If there wasn't enough dislike for Duke already, the bush league move at the end of their win over Louisvllie today will certainly add to that group. Duke was up 1 goal, 22 seconds left, down a girl for a yellow card and Lousiville running their offense off a timeout. Duke intentionally runs a girl offsides as an extra defender. Clearly intentional and just horrible form and lack of class. I guess when you are having another disappointing season and are desperate, you do unsportsmanlike things.
Delaney is an amazing goalie but the true freshman Shea shined when it mattered most.
On that note, did she simply beat out Rachel Hall or was there an injury…fool top 5 team has a freshman goalie
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So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.

She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on. But he is still the best US Hockey player to ever play the game. I’m not saying that’s where BS lies. But your ridiculous post after post about her jot being captain. Is a joke. She’s a top player in College no matter what happens. Get over it.
Nonissue with that duke play. Should a basketball team not foul when it has two fouls to give with 30 seconds left. Sounds like Kimel finally had a good coaching day and you’re calling her out for it.
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So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.

She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on. But he is still the best US Hockey player to ever play the game. I’m not saying that’s where BS lies. But your ridiculous post after post about her jot being captain. Is a joke. She’s a top player in College no matter what happens. Get over it.

Your post is non-sense. Don't know hockey well so looked it up , Patrick Kane has been a captain of multiple teams he has played on. That said its not just 1 person posting about her lack of being a captain as I posted it previously (which I now wish I had not ) .I posted it more in reference to how these publications pick certain players to build them up regardless of how they are performing for the year.and just make things up like being " a leader or quarterback of the offense" when if that were true you would think they would have been voted a captain. Of course I have no idea how BC picks their captains so for all I know its a popularity competition , although I think most teams take it seriously and pick players they believe to be leaders.I think BS is a very good player but best middy in the country is a stretch. There are multiple middies as good if not better and it includes a team mate. She is having a good year by any ones standards but has never been a great defender going for too many make up checks, and not as good an offensive year as expected with too many turnovers. Its not a knock just an obsevation.
Not sure where you looked it up Patty Kane was never a captain. He’s been in the NHL a long time. Was never a captain on his team. Regardless. Comment was BS had a heck of a game against Syracuse. Nothing about being a best midfielder anywhere. and then came then BS detest so not sure what you’re referring to. Therefore your post is nonsense.
Amazing how haters on this site continue to detest. Take the L! She had a great game against the top team in the country. Wait to the next game where she doesn’t do anything or turn over the ball five times to speak. But wait……she’s not captain. Ridiculous people here
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So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.
It's amazing that you have such detest for someone that you need to come on an anonymous forum to berate her. What in the world did she do to you - or your daughter. Why are you so bent on that fact that she isn't a captain?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.
It's amazing that you have such detest for someone that you need to come on an anonymous forum to berate her. What in the world did she do to you - or your daughter. Why are you so bent on that fact that she isn't a captain?


You know the answer to that. Not Belles Mom said it.
Oh there will be a lawsuit. Things will change.
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Not sure where you looked it up Patty Kane was never a captain. He’s been in the NHL a long time. Was never a captain on his team. Regardless. Comment was BS had a heck of a game against Syracuse. Nothing about being a best midfielder anywhere. and then came then BS detest so not sure what you’re referring to. Therefore your post is nonsense.

Wrong again not only has he been a captain for Team USA but has been a captain on his pro teams , just look up "has Patrick Kane ever been a captain", you will see he has been voted a captain multiple times. You apparently think its detest to not feel a player is the best in the country. Your made Patty Kane facts tell me you clearly just randomly comment on things you have no clue about just like womens lacrosse.
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Not sure where you looked it up Patty Kane was never a captain. He’s been in the NHL a long time. Was never a captain on his team. Regardless. Comment was BS had a heck of a game against Syracuse. Nothing about being a best midfielder anywhere. and then came then BS detest so not sure what you’re referring to. Therefore your post is nonsense.

Wrong again not only has he been a captain for Team USA but has been a captain on his pro teams , just look up "has Patrick Kane ever been a captain", you will see he has been voted a captain multiple times. You apparently think its detest to not feel a player is the best in the country. Your made Patty Kane facts tell me you clearly just randomly comment on things you have no clue about just like womens lacrosse.

Lmao.Pat Kane in 15 years us never been voted as captain. Yes. He was team usa captain on an all star team chosen by managers not the team. He was also pee wee captain. He has never been picked by his team as captain. That’s a fact. Even stranger it took him over 7 years to wear an A but you have no idea what that means either. Not surprised but you missed the point. Pat Kane for 15 years was the best player on the Blackhawks. His team never made him Captain yet he was still a great player. It means zero if BS wasn’t picked captain. Have a nice night.
Can’t believe this lax forum became a hockey forum. As a Hawks fan myself. Kane was never captain. Jonathan Toews was voted captain. Took him years before the coaches gave him Alternate but that wasn’t voted by players.
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Not sure where you looked it up Patty Kane was never a captain. He’s been in the NHL a long time. Was never a captain on his team. Regardless. Comment was BS had a heck of a game against Syracuse. Nothing about being a best midfielder anywhere. and then came then BS detest so not sure what you’re referring to. Therefore your post is nonsense.

Wrong again not only has he been a captain for Team USA but has been a captain on his pro teams , just look up "has Patrick Kane ever been a captain", you will see he has been voted a captain multiple times. You apparently think its detest to not feel a player is the best in the country. Your made Patty Kane facts tell me you clearly just randomly comment on things you have no clue about just like womens lacrosse.

Mom. You’re wrong about just about everything you posted with the exception of Team USA.
If you ever played a sport in your life, you’d know the best players don’t always get named Captain. Maybe Belle isn’t that type of leader, so what?! Maybe the pressure of replacing the GOAT is overwhelming/too much, so what?! Maybe she isn’t the once in a generation player everyone thought she was, so what?!
The fact that Belle can be a really good (not great) player and BC still succeeds, is a testament the team concept.
Just stop hatin’
I can’t believe this is going on for over a year. Let it go. She’s a top middie. May not be the best. But she’s in the conversation as one of the top 5 right now. But release the anger. Go see someone. Get help.
“Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on”
You bunch of Sallies are amazing at moving the goal posts. That’s the original post which has been proven wrong . Now you have moved the Belle conversation from the best middle to top 5 . Sorry but not top 5 , although it’s about defining middy . Not close to top 20 defensive middy which is why BC does not play her defensively all the time , not top 20 on the circle which is why BC limits her on the circle , on offense it’s debatable if she is top 10 Middy but yes very good ,
What’s even more weird is that so many of you seem creepily obsessed with posters who think other middies deserve recognition. It’s not that we think Belle is bad we just think there are a lot of good players out there . Not the best middy on your own team makes top 5 pretty difficult .
Pictures of the severed kidney are out there. Really horrific injury.
Unfortunate injury, no doubt! Cross checks being thrown every game, high school included. Refs need to give yellow card for nasty cross checks. That will result in repeat offenders being ejected from games. Eventually things will change. Unless, of course, the rule changes that Coach Levy has proposed get passed. Then we will see immediate change.
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“Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on”
You bunch of Sallies are amazing at moving the goal posts. That’s the original post which has been proven wrong . Now you have moved the Belle conversation from the best middle to top 5 . Sorry but not top 5 , although it’s about defining middy . Not close to top 20 defensive middy which is why BC does not play her defensively all the time , not top 20 on the circle which is why BC limits her on the circle , on offense it’s debatable if she is top 10 Middy but yes very good ,
What’s even more weird is that so many of you seem creepily obsessed with posters who think other middies deserve recognition. It’s not that we think Belle is bad we just think there are a lot of good players out there . Not the best middy on your own team makes top 5 pretty difficult .

Listen. 🤦🏻‍♂️. Haha. Mom. Take the L.
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“Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on”
You bunch of Sallies are amazing at moving the goal posts. That’s the original post which has been proven wrong . Now you have moved the Belle conversation from the best middle to top 5 . Sorry but not top 5 , although it’s about defining middy . Not close to top 20 defensive middy which is why BC does not play her defensively all the time , not top 20 on the circle which is why BC limits her on the circle , on offense it’s debatable if she is top 10 Middy but yes very good ,
What’s even more weird is that so many of you seem creepily obsessed with posters who think other middies deserve recognition. It’s not that we think Belle is bad we just think there are a lot of good players out there . Not the best middy on your own team makes top 5 pretty difficult .

Who is “we.” You have a mouse in your pocket. I think the original statement was Belle Smith had a big time game against a big time team before you, I’m sorry, we got your panties in a bunch. And Pat Kane was never captain on his team. And bringing up a National team that isn’t voted on is not the poster moving the goal posts. You’re cherry picking. One of the best players in his league. And not a captain was the point. Keep using google for your arguements. There’s a couple of internet posts that says OJ was innocent.
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So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.

She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on. But he is still the best US Hockey player to ever play the game. I’m not saying that’s where BS lies. But your ridiculous post after post about her jot being captain. Is a joke. She’s a top player in College no matter what happens. Get over it.

This is the original post. Now I’m sorry you’re too much of a simpleton to not understand I was talking about his professional career. Yes. He was captain when he was 6 on a Mite Team. Yes he was picked by US lA hockey to be a captain at the worlds NOT PICKED BY TEAMMATES Clown. Still looking for where I said she was the best middie. If you don’t think she’s a top player in college you have no clue. But then again your goal post arguement shows that already. Have a nice day and keep thinking not being a captain keeps you from be a top player.
I’d say Chris Kreider would also fall into that category of a top player that will have his number retired at MSG when he retires but who was never voted captain. But then you might google it and find he was a captain in 1997 at a throwaway tournament in Rochester and say see. The moms on this site are ridiculous. Last post on this. I apologize to the rest of the forum that a sentence in a post regarding the Syracuse / BC game took me us. Or “we” down this rabbit hole.
Not my daughter just named Offensive player of the week. =).
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.


She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on. But he is still the best US Hockey player to ever play the game. I’m not saying that’s where BS lies. But your ridiculous post after post about her jot being captain. Is a joke. She’s a top player in College no matter what happens. Get over it.

This is the original post. Now I’m sorry you’re too much of a simpleton to not understand I was talking about his professional career. Yes. He was captain when he was 6 on a Mite Team. Yes he was picked by US lA hockey to be a captain at the worlds NOT PICKED BY TEAMMATES Clown. Still looking for where I said she was the best middie. If you don’t think she’s a top player in college you have no clue. But then again your goal post arguement shows that already. Have a nice day and keep thinking not being a captain keeps you from be a top player.

Talk about a simpleton ,” was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on “ , was he a captain of the national team , did he play on that team. No one said anything about being voted captain but just keep moving the goal posts . Seems your creepy obsession with BS has you unable to understand even simple ideas . By the way comparing BS not being captain to Patty Kane is not a flattering look for BS as there are reasons he was not voted a captain. You may want to stop pretending being voted captain by your teammates means little as I can guarantee you the players like her cousin who have had the honor of both being picked as AA and a captain hold both honors in high regard .
60 games played. 46 started. 141 goals 71 assists. But she wasn’t named captain by her team. Clown.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.


She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on. But he is still the best US Hockey player to ever play the game. I’m not saying that’s where BS lies. But your ridiculous post after post about her jot being captain. Is a joke. She’s a top player in College no matter what happens. Get over it.

This is the original post. Now I’m sorry you’re too much of a simpleton to not understand I was talking about his professional career. Yes. He was captain when he was 6 on a Mite Team. Yes he was picked by US lA hockey to be a captain at the worlds NOT PICKED BY TEAMMATES Clown. Still looking for where I said she was the best middie. If you don’t think she’s a top player in college you have no clue. But then again your goal post arguement shows that already. Have a nice day and keep thinking not being a captain keeps you from be a top player.

Talk about a simpleton ,” was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on “ , was he a captain of the national team , did he play on that team. No one said anything about being voted captain but just keep moving the goal posts . Seems your creepy obsession with BS has you unable to understand even simple ideas . By the way comparing BS not being captain to Patty Kane is not a flattering look for BS as there are reasons he was not voted a captain. You may want to stop pretending being voted captain by your teammates means little as I can guarantee you the players like her cousin who have had the honor of both being picked as AA and a captain hold both honors in high regard .

My creepy obsession? You guys are the one knocking this girl because why, she wasnt picked as captain by her teammates.

Once again since you didn’t read it the first three times, Kane wasn’t picked by his teammates at Nationals. But here. I’ll change the point so we can move on from the one sentence that you took out to gloss over the point.

“She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any NHL team he’s ever played on was still the best player US player ever.

Is that better now. Move on mom. We get it. You guys don't like her. You are hoping she stinks today.
This has to be one of the densest debates on this site yet and that’s saying a lot. I can’t believe you keep responding to. Let it go bro. Point made.
This has to be one of the densest debates on this site yet and that’s saying a lot. I can’t believe you keep responding to. Let it go bro. Point made.
captain. You may want to stop pretending being voted captain by your teammates means little as I can guarantee you the players like her cousin who have had the honor of both being picked as AA and a captain hold both honors in high regard

🤦🏻‍♂️. That’s the whole Pat Kane point. Not being selected as captain has nothing to do with her play on the field. She can still be a top player and not be captain. Move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
60 games played. 46 started. 141 goals 71 assists. But she wasn’t named captain by her team. Clown.

This.
And they are wrong anyway. Belle was elected captain as a sophomore in High School. ;-)
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So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.


She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on. But he is still the best US Hockey player to ever play the game. I’m not saying that’s where BS lies. But your ridiculous post after post about her jot being captain. Is a joke. She’s a top player in College no matter what happens. Get over it.

This is the original post. Now I’m sorry you’re too much of a simpleton to not understand I was talking about his professional career. Yes. He was captain when he was 6 on a Mite Team. Yes he was picked by US lA hockey to be a captain at the worlds NOT PICKED BY TEAMMATES Clown. Still looking for where I said she was the best middie. If you don’t think she’s a top player in college you have no clue. But then again your goal post arguement shows that already. Have a nice day and keep thinking not being a captain keeps you from be a top player.

Talk about a simpleton ,” was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on “ , was he a captain of the national team , did he play on that team. No one said anything about being voted captain but just keep moving the goal posts . Seems your creepy obsession with BS has you unable to understand even simple ideas . By the way comparing BS not being captain to Patty Kane is not a flattering look for BS as there are reasons he was not voted a captain. You may want to stop pretending being voted captain by your teammates means little as I can guarantee you the players like her cousin who have had the honor of both being picked as AA and a captain hold both honors in high regard .

My creepy obsession? You guys are the one knocking this girl because why, she wasnt picked as captain by her teammates.

Once again since you didn’t read it the first three times, Kane wasn’t picked by his teammates at Nationals. But here. I’ll change the point so we can move on from the one sentence that you took out to gloss over the point.

“She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any NHL team he’s ever played on was still the best player US player ever.

Is that better now. Move on mom. We get it. You guys don't like her. You are hoping she stinks today.


So gotta ask. If she is not the best midfielder on her own team, who is?
She is their best
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many dults on this sight detest on BC, yet there they were, winning one of the biggest games of the year.
Belle hasn’t been great this year , but she had 2goals and 5 assists against the #1 team in the country. Keep hatin you lost

It’s amazing 1 good game all season and all publications anointing her the Laxer, best marketing team In all collegiate sports. One publication called her the emotional leader of the team and the best midfielder in college, funny that her own teammates didn’t vote her captain. So so unfair she’s not even the best midfielder on her team, I wish these writers would just watch the games.


She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on. But he is still the best US Hockey player to ever play the game. I’m not saying that’s where BS lies. But your ridiculous post after post about her jot being captain. Is a joke. She’s a top player in College no matter what happens. Get over it.

This is the original post. Now I’m sorry you’re too much of a simpleton to not understand I was talking about his professional career. Yes. He was captain when he was 6 on a Mite Team. Yes he was picked by US lA hockey to be a captain at the worlds NOT PICKED BY TEAMMATES Clown. Still looking for where I said she was the best middie. If you don’t think she’s a top player in college you have no clue. But then again your goal post arguement shows that already. Have a nice day and keep thinking not being a captain keeps you from be a top player.

Talk about a simpleton ,” was never a captain on any team he’s ever played on “ , was he a captain of the national team , did he play on that team. No one said anything about being voted captain but just keep moving the goal posts . Seems your creepy obsession with BS has you unable to understand even simple ideas . By the way comparing BS not being captain to Patty Kane is not a flattering look for BS as there are reasons he was not voted a captain. You may want to stop pretending being voted captain by your teammates means little as I can guarantee you the players like her cousin who have had the honor of both being picked as AA and a captain hold both honors in high regard .

My creepy obsession? You guys are the one knocking this girl because why, she wasnt picked as captain by her teammates.

Once again since you didn’t read it the first three times, Kane wasn’t picked by his teammates at Nationals. But here. I’ll change the point so we can move on from the one sentence that you took out to gloss over the point.

“She doesn’t have to be the best midfielder on her team. She doesn’t have to be captain. Patty Kane was never a captain on any NHL team he’s ever played on was still the best player US player ever.

Is that better now. Move on mom. We get it. You guys don't like her. You are hoping she stinks today.


So gotta ask. If she is not the best midfielder on her own team, who is?

What kinda question is that. It’s either her daughter on the team or her daughter from West Hampton that didn’t go to BC because BS held her back by not passing to her in hs. Who knows with these nuts.
I really would love to watch a BC game and not hear CN's name mentioned over and over and over again. Yes, she is a great player, but she is longer a BC player. Give the current team the credit they deserve by not constantly mentioning her.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – April 24

There’s a new No. 1 in Division I for the first time since Week 6, as No. 4 Boston College topped previously undefeated No. 1 Syracuse on Thursday, 17-16.

The Orange dropped to No. 2 as Northwestern took over the top ranking after clinching the Big Ten regular-season title with a 13-6 win over Maryland on Saturday evening.

Denver remained at No. 3 and remains the lone unbeaten team in the Top 25, while Boston College and James Madison round out the Top 5, respectively.

No. 24 Marquette made its first appearance in the Top 25 this week, with their regular-season finale against the Pioneers set for Saturday.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Prev

1 Northwestern (15 - 1) 587 (14) 2
2 Syracuse (15 - 1) 580 (7) 1
3 Denver (16 - 0) 541 (2) 3
4 Boston College (13 - 3) 532 (1) 5
5 James Madison (15 - 1) 507 4
6 North Carolina (12 - 3) 483 6
7 Notre Dame (12 - 4) 443 7
8 Florida (12 - 3) 424 8
9 Loyola (14 - 2) 408 10
10 Stony Brook (11 - 3) 374 9
11 Virginia (11 - 5) 357 11
12 Maryland (12 - 5) 352 12
13 UMass (14 - 1) 289 13
14 Penn (10 - 4) 267 15
15 Army (13 - 2) 250 16
16 Johns Hopkins (8 - 7) 202 22
17 Clemson (12 - 5) 198 17
18 take Penn State (11 - 5) 196 14
19 Michigan (10 - 6) 178 18
20 USC (13 - 3) 133 20
21 Richmond (13 - 3) 120 21
22 Yale (9 - 5) 97 19
23 UConn (10 - 5) 69 25
24 Marquette (15 - 1) 67 NR
25 Navy (12 - 4) 60 23
RV Rutgers, Jacksonville, Stanford, Villanova, Louisville
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – April 24



No. 1 West Chester earned 17 first-place votes in Week 10 of the ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll, while No. 2 Pace earned five.

Tampa stayed put in the third position, while Regis dropped three spots after suffering its first loss of the year to Colorado Mesa on Sunday.

Adelphi also dropped three spots to No. 12, falling to both Le Moyne and Bentley last week.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 West Chester (15 - 0) 545 (17) 1
2 Pace (13 - 1) 533 (5) 2
3 Tampa (15 - 2) 506 3
4 Florida Southern (15 - 2) 475 5
5 UIndy (15 - 2) 447 6
6 Le Moyne (13 - 2) 434 7
7 Regis (CO) (13 - 1) 426 4
8 Rollins (15 - 2) 376 8
9 Wingate (15 - 2) 362 10
10 Flagler (15 - 1) 331 11
11 Maryville (16 - 1) 323 12
12 Adelphi (9 - 5) 321 9
13 East Stroudsburg (12 - 3) 306 13
14 Embry-Riddle (13 - 4) 252 14
15 Bentley (9 - 5) 238 18
16 Grand Valley (12 - 4) 235 15
17 Saint Anselm (11 - 3) 193 17
18 Lynn (12 - 6) 18 16
19 New Haven (9 - 6) 126 20
20 Mercy (9 - 6) 122 19
21 Assumption (8 - 6) 116 21
22 Seton Hill (13 - 3) 75 23
23 Saint Leo (10 - 7) 52 22
24 Colorado Mesa (9 - 5) 44 NR
25 Southern New Hampshire (9 - 6) 41 24
RV Limestone, Kutztown, Mount Olive, Saint Rose, Alabama Huntsville
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – April 24



Undefeated Middlebury earned the No. 1 ranking for the ninth week in a row, earning all 25 votes. Washington and Lee and William Smith followed in the No. 2 and No. 3 positions, respectively, while Salisbury and Wesleyan both bumped up one to round up the Top 5.

TCNJ fell two spots to No. 6 after dropping an 11-9 game to Salisbury on Saturday, marking the most significant movement inside the Top 25 in Week 9.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (14 - 0) 625 (25) 1
2 Washington and Lee (14 - 1) 595 2
3 William Smith (15 - 0) 576 3
4 Salisbury (11 - 3) 542 5
5 Wesleyan (12 - 2) 511 6
6 TCNJ (12 - 3) 507 4
7 Tufts (11 - 3) 469 7
8 Gettysburg (12 - 3) 466 8
9 York (12 - 3) 425 9
10 Franklin & Marshall (11 - 4) 393 10
11 Messiah (12 - 2) 370 11
12 Colby (10 - 4) 352 12
13 Trinity (CT) (10 - 4) 317 13
14 Amherst (9 - 4) 287 14
15 Williams (10 - 4) 285 15
16 Roanoke (14 - 2) 235 16
16 Chicago (12 - 2) 224 17
18 Pomona-Pitzer (14 - 1) 207 18
19 Cortland (12 - 3) 166 19
20 St. John Fisher (12 - 2) 135 22
21 Kenyon (14 - 0) 132 21
22 Ithaca (9 - 6) 77 20
23 Stevens (14 - 1) 70 24
24 Bowdoin (6 - 8) 58 23
25 MIT (14 - 2) 57 25
RV Hamilton, Haverford, Catholic, Christopher Newport, Connecticut college
DIVISION I


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Belle Smith – Boston College

Smith registered a game and season-high seven points in the No. 5 Eagles' 17-16 come-from-behind win over No. 1 Syracuse, helping the Eagles capture the No. 1 seed in the Atlantic Coast Conference Tournament, the ACC regular season title and handing the Orange their first loss of the season. The junior scored all seven points in the second half, including delivering the game-winning assist to Mckenna Davis with 1:21 left in the game. Smith finished the game with two goals, a season-best five assists, and two draw controls. The Eagles moved to No. 4 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll and will face No. 9 Duke tomorrow for their ACC opening round.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Allison Reilly – United States Military Academy

Reilly posted 12 points to help No. 16 Army West Point defeat archrival No. 23 United States Naval Academy, 15-11. The nine goals marked a single-game program record as did the 12 points. Army (13-2, 7-1) shifted up to No. 15 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I rankings and will close out their regular season with a matchup against Lafayette College this Thursday.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Shea Dolce – Boston College

Dolce turned in a solid outing of 12 saves in the 17-16 win over No. 1 Syracuse. The freshman posted a .500 save percentage in the second half, marking her second game of the season with 10 or more stops. Dolce is fifth in the ACC in goals-against average and save percentage.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Jenika Cuocco - Drexel University

Cuocco held Hofstra University to four goals in 51 minutes to win her sixth Colonial Athletic Association Rookie of the Week honor, a CAA record. She recorded 12 total saves. The Dragons will take on Monmouth University to close out the regular season this Saturday.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Helen Bae – Maryville University

Bae helped No. 12 Maryville to a 16-1 regular season record after scoring 10 goals and one assist in the 26-11 win over Rockhurst University. Bae’s goals marked her career high, while also contributing to Maryville’s program high of 26 in the process. She became only the third player in Division II to reach double digits this season, the second in Maryville history to reach double digits in a game. She added nine draw controls, chipped in two ground balls, and tallied one caused turnover as well. Seeded No. 2, the Saints will have another meeting with No. 3 seed Rockhurst in the Great Lakes Valley Conference semifinal this Friday.

Defensive Player of the Week

Ashlee Wargo – Bentley University

Wargo made 10 saves and posted a 55.6 save percentage to help the No. 18 Falcons to a 13-8 road win over No. 9 Adelphi last Tuesday. She also added three ground balls in the win. Wargo then made a season-high 15 saves and had a 53.6 save percentage in a close 13-10 defeat to Le Moyne on Saturday. In the two games, she combined for 25 saves and a 54.3 save percentage. The Falcons shifted up to No. 15 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division II rankings. This marks Wargo’s second IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season.
DIVISION III


Offensive Player of the Week

Emma Skoglund – Salisbury University

With Skoglund’s fourth assist on Wednesday against St. Mary's College of Maryland, the graduate attacker tallied the 200th point of her career, becoming just the 10th Sea Gulls player to achieve the milestone in program history. She finished the game with six points on five assists and a goal en route to the 17-5 win. On Saturday against No. 4 The College of New Jersey, Skoglund exploded for a career-high nine points on five goals and four assists to power No. 5 Salisbury past the Lions, 11-9. The Sea Gulls, now ranked No. 4, will have Christopher Newport in the regular season finale on Saturday.

Defensive Player of the Week

Natalie Held – Salisbury University

Held bolstered a backline for Salisbury that held both of its opponents to single-digit goals this past week. On Wednesday against St. Mary's (Md.), Held collected a game-high seven draw controls, caused a game-high three turnovers, and collected three ground balls in the Sea Gulls' 17-5 win. Then on Saturday against No. 4 TCNJ, Held caused two more turnovers and collected two draw controls and a ground ball in the top-five contest.
Sorry for my late weekly updates. I was in Texas watching some great HS girls lacrosse; first in Dallas then Austin. Talking to parents and found many reluctant to send their kids to the Northeast area. The southeast and Florida are preferred areas. Interesting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really would love to watch a BC game and not hear CN's name mentioned over and over and over again. Yes, she is a great player, but she is longer a BC player. Give the current team the credit they deserve by not constantly mentioning her.
amen!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really would love to watch a BC game and not hear CN's name mentioned over and over and over again. Yes, she is a great player, but she is longer a BC player. Give the current team the credit they deserve by not constantly mentioning her.
amen!

I 2nd that Amen! Let’s move on, it’s not CNs team anymore. It’s better, because lots of girls are more involved in the wins!
Has anyone entered the portal? What was your experience and advice?
Originally Posted by Not_Belles_Mommy
And they are wrong anyway. Belle was elected captain as a sophomore in High School. ;-)
Wow , you really are creepy . To know when she was elected captain in high school seems like you are a bit of a creeper Also show me where any one says she was not elected captain in high school so how is anyone wrong. That said she is a very good player , looks like she had a good game first round of the ACC but again not what you would expect from a top midfielder , 3 for 7 on shots with 3 turnovers and a couple draws. Is what it is .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Not_Belles_Mommy
And they are wrong anyway. Belle was elected captain as a sophomore in High School. ;-)
Wow , you really are creepy . To know when she was elected captain in high school seems like you are a bit of a creeper Also show me where any one says she was not elected captain in high school so how is anyone wrong. That said she is a very good player , looks like she had a good game first round of the ACC but again not what you would expect from a top midfielder , 3 for 7 on shots with 3 turnovers and a couple draws. Is what it is .

They really need to allow GIFs on these posts. I'm assuming Not Belles Mommy would use the sarcasm over head GIF for that last winner's or whiner's post.
Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Belle Smith – Boston College

Smith registered a game and season-high seven points in the No. 5 Eagles' 17-16 come-from-behind win over No. 1 Syracuse, helping the Eagles capture the No. 1 seed in the Atlantic Coast Conference Tournament, the ACC regular season title and handing the Orange their first loss of the season. The junior scored all seven points in the second half, including delivering the game-winning assist to Mckenna Davis with 1:21 left in the game. Smith finished the game with two goals, a season-best five assists, and two draw controls. The Eagles moved to No. 4 in the latest ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll and will face No. 9 Duke tomorrow for their ACC opening round.


But, but, but, she wasn't voted captain on her team. Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right....
Come someone please explain the obsession (dislike) of BS??? This is bizarre!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Come someone please explain the obsession (dislike) of BS??? This is bizarre!

It originated last year. A couple of posters continued to say she was overrated. I anonymously stuck up for her. One poster said that I was BS’ mom so I made this account.
I then as a joke insinuated that the poster was mad because BS stole her sons prom date. The poster actually insinuated that did happen.

Also the reading comprehend level on BOTC is t that swift. Obviously by the above post calling me a creeper. Obviously it was a joke about her being captain. I figured the wink would give that away. But mom still can’t get past the fact that BS scored more goals than her daughter in high school.

But I do agree with the previous posters. We actually should be booted off BOTC For responding to them. What her not being Captain has to do with being a good lacrosse player is beyond my comprehension. But as the editors keep saying here. Detesters are going to detest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Not_Belles_Mommy
And they are wrong anyway. Belle was elected captain as a sophomore in High School. ;-)
Wow , you really are creepy . To know when she was elected captain in high school seems like you are a bit of a creeper Also show me where any one says she was not elected captain in high school so how is anyone wrong. That said she is a very good player , looks like she had a good game first round of the ACC but again not what you would expect from a top midfielder , 3 for 7 on shots with 3 turnovers and a couple draws. Is what it is .

They really need to allow GIFs on these posts. I'm assuming Not Belles Mommy would use the sarcasm over head GIF for that last winner's or whiner's post.

Yes. Not too swift that one.
Originally Posted by Not_Belles_Mommy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Come someone please explain the obsession (dislike) of BS??? This is bizarre!

It originated last year. A couple of posters continued to say she was overrated. I anonymously stuck up for her. One poster said that I was BS’ mom so I made this account.
I then as a joke insinuated that the poster was mad because BS stole her sons prom date. The poster actually insinuated that did happen.

Also the reading comprehend level on BOTC is t that swift. Obviously by the above post calling me a creeper. Obviously it was a joke about her being captain. I figured the wink would give that away. But mom still can’t get past the fact that BS scored more goals than her daughter in high school.

But I do agree with the previous posters. We actually should be booted off BOTC For responding to them. What her not being Captain has to do with being a good lacrosse player is beyond my comprehension. But as the editors keep saying here. Detesters are going to detest.


Typo. Daughter’s prom date.
Ok let's change the subject until either BS has seven turnovers and the boo birds come back or she has eight points and then Belles Mom can gloat. Cause anyone watching knows shes a top player. Please! Move on.
I'll move on and change the subject. Does anyone else sense that Syracuse has lost its mojo and is just hanging on? Is NU the best team in the country or does playing in the ultra competitive ACC favor teams like BC, Cuse or UNC to win it all. I think one of those 3 teams wins it all and would give the slight edge to NU. The final NCAA bracket will have an impact. There are several very good teams lurking as spoils in the elite 8 - teams like ND, MD, JMU, Denver etc.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll move on and change the subject. Does anyone else sense that Syracuse has lost its mojo and is just hanging on? Is NU the best team in the country or does playing in the ultra competitive ACC favor teams like BC, Cuse or UNC to win it all. I think one of those 3 teams wins it all and would give the slight edge to NU. The final NCAA bracket will have an impact. There are several very good teams lurking as spoils in the elite 8 - teams like ND, MD, JMU, Denver etc.

I like JMU and NU in the final. JMU shocks and wins.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll move on and change the subject. Does anyone else sense that Syracuse has lost its mojo and is just hanging on? Is NU the best team in the country or does playing in the ultra competitive ACC favor teams like BC, Cuse or UNC to win it all. I think one of those 3 teams wins it all and would give the slight edge to NU. The final NCAA bracket will have an impact. There are several very good teams lurking as spoils in the elite 8 - teams like ND, MD, JMU, Denver etc.

I like JMU and NU in the final. JMU shocks and wins.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone entered the portal? What was your experience and advice?

I am sure many of the Colgate players will be entering the portal.
Can anyone access the portal?
Do players already know where they want to go when they enter?
Do coaches goad players into entering?
Are there any behind the scenes deals before entering?
Just how does it work?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone access the portal?
Do players already know where they want to go when they enter?
Do coaches goad players into entering?
Are there any behind the scenes deals before entering?
Just how does it work?


No. Only coaches or athletic department Official.
Many do, especially undergrads. Grad transfers often just enter and see if anyone is interested.
Yes. Usually by being scholarship $$ or tell girls they won't play
Often former club directors will be reach out to school on players behalf. Some clubs will do this and others won't
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone access the portal?
Do players already know where they want to go when they enter?
Do coaches goad players into entering?
Are there any behind the scenes deals before entering?
Just how does it work?

Not sure about wlax but tons and tons of behind the close door scenes in football right now. Even women’s basketball had some fugazy stuff after the tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2

Big stretch!

Goalie play was the big difference, Syracuse 15 Saves, UNC 5 saves.

It was a two goal game.... "Far superior" is a foolish statement.

Foolish statement to say the least.

Original Poster is simply another know nothing lacrosse parent with little to no knowledge of the game.
It’s amazing how there always has to be an insult- here’s a thought-grow up! Someone can think that a team is superior (considering at the time, they were). A person. Can also admit that the said team laid an egg, because they did.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2

Big stretch!

Goalie play was the big difference, Syracuse 15 Saves, UNC 5 saves.

It was a two goal game.... "Far superior" is a foolish statement.

Foolish statement to say the least.

Original Poster is simply another know nothing lacrosse parent with little to no knowledge of the game.

Agreed. Plenty of those on this forum. I’m sure there will be more nonsense comments like that in the next comIng weeks.
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It’s amazing how there always has to be an insult- here’s a thought-grow up! Someone can think that a team is superior (considering at the time, they were). A person. Can also admit that the said team laid an egg, because they did.

Below is the original statement:\

"No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins."

Above was a passive aggressive attack, it was meant to tear down young women. BTW, they did not simply state that they though "Syracuse was the better team", they said there was no chance of Syracuse loosing to UNC and that Syracuse was the "Far Superior" team. They also threw a knock at Duke and also gave a backhand to Stony Brook. IMHO all comments were made with the intent to tear down the teams and the young women who compete for the teams.

There were earlier rebuttals to the post that pointed out how certain people, yourself included like to move the goal post when they are called out or proven wrong. The post in question did not simply state that the poster believed that Syracuse was "superior".

The person who made the original statement was obviously trying to knock certain teams for whatever reason. That person does not know very much about this game.
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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.


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UNC won't drop at all, SB won't drop far, even though they probably should, and MD will drop the most in my opinion (wouldn't be surprised to see them at 15).
UNC will lose to Cuse and probably in the semi of the ACC so come seeding time for the ncaa they may drop out of top 8 . SBU has not beaten any top teams and now has a bad loss they should drop to around 10

It’s a coin flip right now. Would love Syracuse to lose here
But I have a feeling they’ll pull it out.


No chance of Cuse loosing to NC. Cuse a far superior team this year. How about Duke underachieving once again, not making tournament. I’m also interested to see what happens with SB. They really don’t have many good wins.

Far superior is a bit of a stretch... Duke Head Coach is not very good.... this year is no different for SBU as they never really beat any top teams.
Far superior is not a stretch-records proves it. This year they are “healthy” on their offense. Next year they will lose key players & have to see how it pans out. Their draw player was injured & doesn’t seem to have hurt them at allznzch2

Big stretch!

Goalie play was the big difference, Syracuse 15 Saves, UNC 5 saves.

It was a two goal game.... "Far superior" is a foolish statement.

Foolish statement to say the least.

Original Poster is simply another know nothing lacrosse parent with little to no knowledge of the game.

Agreed. Plenty of those on this forum. I’m sure there will be more nonsense comments like that in the next comIng weeks.


Hopefully Northwestern can win the whole thing!
Watched Brown vs Cornell today, can someone please clarify Ivy League Rules? Cornell had a transfer from Northwestern playing who looked like she was Cornells best player, I was under the impression that Ivy League programs could not take transfers. Does each school have their own rules? Is it on a case by case or player by player basis? Does the coach have to get a special permission/exception? If anyone has accurate information please share.
Thank you.
I guess the Cuse being far superior over UNC comment is aging well ! Great game by UNC, so don’t count them out!
Ref must’ve been one of the posters on BOTC with that no goal call on BS today.
Entertaining ACC game this afternoon. For the most part goals came from secondary scorers for both teams. BC defense just wears down opponents.

Weather was a factor in first half but sun was poking through by the second half.

Couldn’t tell bring there if that goal should have counted but trusting the review was good. It’s a hard game to officiate but some simple calls were missed, such as playing without a stick.

Both teams can make some noise in the upcoming tournament.
Charlotte North was great during halftime as well. A possible future in broadcasting.
BS with the game winner. 😳
BS with the game winner. 😳
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.

Not the OP, but pretty sure the OP posted that because she stepped up big in a big game maybe?? How are you reading that and think anyone is disparaging her??? She literally had the game winning goal in the ACC championship.
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.

Not the OP, but pretty sure the OP posted that because she stepped up big in a big game maybe?? How are you reading that and think anyone is disparaging her??? She literally had the game winning goal in the ACC championship.


As stated by myself most recently and many others in the last, reading comprehension is not a strong point for some of the posters on BOTC. But this one is at a new low level.
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.

OP here. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. I think the world of BS and she had a fine ACC. I’m just the last two weeks she had a 7 point game against then #1 Cuse with the game winning assist. And a clutch game winning goal for the ACC champ. I also think she had a fine offensive season. She’s a middie not an attack. I do agree. I feel she is gonna kill it her senior year. Oh….I hope they pick her as captain. She’ll [Censored] unless she gets the “C”. 😁
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.

Not the OP, but pretty sure the OP posted that because she stepped up big in a big game maybe?? How are you reading that and think anyone is disparaging her??? She literally had the game winning goal in the ACC championship.

I think if people post every time she does something good you will have people come on here and bash her and I can almost guarantee she does not want some fan boy coming on here all the time putting her name out there.Really not a difficult concept. Also game winning goal most times is a nonsense stat ,many times the first goal of the game is given credit as the game winner .Shots on goal is another one that makes little sense, shooting percentage sure but shots on goal who cares.
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.

Not the OP, but pretty sure the OP posted that because she stepped up big in a big game maybe?? How are you reading that and think anyone is disparaging her??? She literally had the game winning goal in the ACC championship.

I think if people post every time she does something good you will have people come on here and bash her and I can almost guarantee she does not want some fan boy coming on here all the time putting her name out there.Really not a difficult concept. Also game winning goal most times is a nonsense stat ,many times the first goal of the game is given credit as the game winner .Shots on goal is another one that makes little sense, shooting percentage sure but shots on goal who cares.

They’ve been doing that for the last year. And they are also well aware of your advice. Where have you been.
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.

Not the OP, but pretty sure the OP posted that because she stepped up big in a big game maybe?? How are you reading that and think anyone is disparaging her??? She literally had the game winning goal in the ACC championship.

I think if people post every time she does something good you will have people come on here and bash her and I can almost guarantee she does not want some fan boy coming on here all the time putting her name out there.Really not a difficult concept. Also game winning goal most times is a nonsense stat ,many times the first goal of the game is given credit as the game winner .Shots on goal is another one that makes little sense, shooting percentage sure but shots on goal who cares.

As for the game winning stat. Yes. At the end of the year the stat is worthless. If you win 21-2 whoever scored the go ahead goal gets the stat. Wasn’t how it was used in this case. Maybe you missed the game. But felt compelled to comment like most people on this board acts. Looks at a box score and comments.
BC finding their grove at the right time, beautiful to see.
All the haters, with daughters that can’t compete, loved watching them lose a few games early…go back and read some of the obtuse comments. Lol
Love watching the BC girls play true team lacrosse, from offense to defense to the pipes to the coaching.
Stop hating and enjoy
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BS with the game winner. 😳

Honestly why post this. You must have a dislike for her. She is a good player who did not have her best tournament during the ACC and honestly not her best offensive year. Would still take her on my daughters team in a second. To the poster who thinks all these posts are just about tearing young women down I assume you think all these lists that these young women make are all about tearing the others down. Some of these players were hyped to unachievable levels and it seems to me that sometimes these "experts " continue to hype the same players so they dont look foolish .I think BS will have a huge year next year as she will become more of the focus on offense.

Not the OP, but pretty sure the OP posted that because she stepped up big in a big game maybe?? How are you reading that and think anyone is disparaging her??? She literally had the game winning goal in the ACC championship.

I think if people post every time she does something good you will have people come on here and bash her and I can almost guarantee she does not want some fan boy coming on here all the time putting her name out there.Really not a difficult concept. Also game winning goal most times is a nonsense stat ,many times the first goal of the game is given credit as the game winner .Shots on goal is another one that makes little sense, shooting percentage sure but shots on goal who cares.

As for the game winning stat. Yes. At the end of the year the stat is worthless. If you win 21-2 whoever scored the go ahead goal gets the stat. Wasn’t how it was used in this case. Maybe you missed the game. But felt compelled to comment like most people on this board acts. Looks at a box score and comments.

Yes I watched the game and did not feel her goal was any bigger than most that came before it or the one after it . As far as where have I been not on this site fan boying or bashing some player . Amazes me so many of you want to bash players while an equal number of you get all upset if people have an opinion that a certain player ( not necessarily BS) is over rated .
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – May 1



Northwestern stayed locked in the No. 1 spot, while the rest of the Top 5 had some significant movement in the wake of the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) Tournament results.

Boston College topped North Carolina, 11-9, in the championship game on Sunday afternoon, as the Eagles won the program’s first ACC Championship title.

Syracuse fell to North Carolina in the ACC Semifinals, falling to No. 4 as a result, while Denver —which won the Big East regular season — dropped two spots into the fifth position by no fault of its own.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Prev

1 Northwestern (15 - 1) 498 (18) 1
2 Boston College (16 - 3) 480 (2) 4
3 North Carolina (14 - 4) 443 6
4 Syracuse (16 - 2) 435 2
5 Denver (17 - 0) 434 3
6 James Madison (16 - 1) 409 5
7 Notre Dame (13 - 5) 369 7
8 Florida (14 - 3) 354 8
9 Loyola (15 - 2) 344 9
10 Maryland (13 - 5) 309 12
11 Stony Brook (12 - 3) 301 10
12 Virginia (11 - 6) 291 11
13 UMass (15 - 1) 252 13
14 Penn (11 - 4) 234 14
15 Army (14 - 2) 200 15
16 Michigan (11 - 6) 185 19
17 USC (14 - 3) 141 20
18 Johns Hopkins (8 - 8) 119 16
19 Marquette (15 - 2) 118 24
20 Clemson (12 - 6) 112 17
21 Penn State (11 - 6) 110 18
22 Richmond (14 - 3) 97 21
23 Rutgers (8 - 8) 69 NR
24 UConn (11 - 5) 65 23
25 Navy (13 - 5) 37 25
RV Yale, Drexel, Jacksonville, Virginia Tech, Stanford,
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – May 1



As most teams concluded their regular seasons this weekend, the top three teams stayed put, with No. 1 West Chester earning 12 first-place votes and No. 2 Pace earning six.

Florida Southern dropped two spots into the No. 6 position, after losing their season finale to No. 3 Tampa, 17-16 on Sunday. As a result of the Mocs’ movement, UIndy and Le Moyne bumped ahead into the fourth and fifth spots, respectively.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Prev

1 West Chester (17 - 0) 444 (12) 1
2 Pace (15 - 1) 438 (6) 2
3 Tampa (17 - 2) 414 3
4 UIndy (17 - 2) 374 5
5 Le Moyne (15 - 2) 370 6
6 Florida Southern (16 - 3) 366 4
7 Regis (CO) (15 - 1) 327 7
8 Wingate (16 - 2) 298 9
8 Rollins (15 - 3) 298 8
10 Flagler (17 - 1) 287 10
11 Maryville (17 - 2) 266 11
12 Adelphi (11 - 5) 254 12
13 Embry-Riddle (13 - 5) 228 14
14 Grand Valley (14 - 4) 197 16
15 East Stroudsburg (13 - 4) 183 13
16 Bentley (10 - 6) 177 15
17 Saint Anselm (12 - 4) 169 17
18 New Haven (11 - 6) 166 19
19 Lynn (12 - 6) 146 18
20 Mercy (11 - 6) 101 20
21 Assumption (9 - 7) 81 21
22 Seton Hill (14 - 3) 71 22
23 Kutztown (12 - 4) 46 NR
24 Colorado Mesa (10 - 5) 45 24
25 Saint Leo (10 - 7) 42 23
RV Mount Olive, Newberry, Southern New Hampshire, Lander, Northern Mich.
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – May 1



Middlebury concluded its regular season unbeaten, earning the No. 1 ranking once again.

Washington and Lee and William Smith kept No. 2 and No. 3 rankings, respectively, while Salisbury dropped to No. 5. Wesleyan jumped to the fourth spot.

Aside from that swap, the majority of teams stayed put in their respective positions from last week.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (16 - 0) 575 (23) 1
2 Washington and Lee (16 - 1) 547 2
3 William Smith (16 - 0) 532 3
4 Wesleyan (14 - 2) 494 5
5 Salisbury (12 - 3) 492 4
6 TCNJ (13 - 3) 451 6
7 Tufts (13 - 3) 437 7
8 Gettysburg (14 - 3) 425 8
9 York (14 - 3) 379 9
10 Franklin & Marshall (13 - 4) 370 10
11 Messiah (14 - 2) 338 11
12 Colby (12 - 4) 326 12
13 Trinity (CT) (11 - 5) 297 13
14 Amherst (9 - 6) 252 14
15 Williams (10 - 6) 238 15
16 Roanoke (14 - 2) 217 16
17 Chicago (14 - 2) 212 17
18 Pomona-Pitzer (17 - 1) 195 18
19 St. John Fisher (14 - 2) 159 20
20 Cortland (13 - 3) 152 19
21 Kenyon (16 - 0) 126 21
22 MIT (15 - 2) 65 25
23 Stevens (15 - 2) 45 23
24 Bowdoin (6 - 10) 42 24
25 Ithaca (10 - 7) 35 22
RV Christopher Newport, Hamilton, Haverford, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, George Fox
DIVISION I


Offensive Player of the Week

Ellie Masera – Stony Brook University

Masera led the No. 10 Seawolves to their first Colonial Athletic Association regular season title after taking down Hofstra University, 18-6, last Friday. She recorded career-highs in assists (4), points (9), and caused turnovers (5) to go along with her five goals in the match. She also matched her season-high in draw controls (10) and leads the CAA in goals, points, and draw controls per game. This Thursday, the Seawolves will compete in the CAA Tournament in Towson, Md. as the No. 1 seed and will face the No. 4 seeded University of Delaware in the semifinals.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Carolyn Carrera – University of Vermont

Carrera’s six caused turnovers in Vermont’s 13-5 win over UMass Lowell gave her 56 total on the season, setting the America East Conference single-season record, AE conference play record, and UVM single-season record. Third-seeded Vermont will face No. 2 Binghamton University in the America East Semifinals this Thursday in Albany, New York.

Co-Defensive Player of the Week

Sam Thacker – University of Denver

Thacker tied a career high with six caused turnovers in No. 3 Denver’s 12-5 win over No. 24 Marquette University, helping the Pioneers to the Big East regular-season championship. The six caused turnovers were tied for the seventh-most in a game in program history and two shy of the record (8). Thacker’s defensive efforts, along with her teammates, held MU's NCAA third-ranked offense to its lowest goal output of the season and the first time in single digits all year long. The senior defender currently leads the team with 45 caused turnovers, is second with 42 ground balls, and is tied for third with 29 draw controls. The Pioneers stretched their winning streak to 17 games, tied for the longest in program history, and remain the only undefeated program in Division I. As the No. 1 seed, Denver will face fourth-seeded Villanova University in the semifinals of the Big East Conference Tournament this Friday.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Lindsay Monigle – West Chester University

Monigle helped No. 1 West Chester cap an undefeated regular season with six goals and 10 assists in two victories last week. Monigle scored once and registered five assists in the team's final home game against Kutztown University last Wednesday. She topped that off with five goals and five assists in the season finale at Millersville University on Saturday. Monigle's 10 points against the Marauders tied her single-game career high. At Millersville, she fueled a five-goal spurt at the end of the first quarter, scoring three times and assisting on another. The Golden Rams have earned a bye into the semifinals of the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference Championship and will await their opponent from the quarterfinals this afternoon.

Defensive Player of the Week

Paige Crandall – Le Moyne College

Crandall registered a 7.43 goals against average, 20 saves, and a .606 save percentage in No. 6 Le Moyne's 2-0 week. She made seven saves (against five goals) in 45:00 minutes of play in a 20-9 win over Southern Connecticut State on Wednesday. She tallied a season-high 13 saves in a 15-8 victory over No. 25 Southern New Hampshire University on Saturday. The second-seeded Dolphins take on No. 7 seed Assumption University this afternoon in the quarterfinal round of the Northeast 10 Conference Championship.
DIVISION III


Offensive Player of the Week

Emily Willms – Otterbein University

This past week, Willms broke two program records for draw controls (206) and all-time points (226). She led all players with five goals in Otterbein’s 12-11 win over Ohio Northern University and followed up with another five-goal performance in the 12-7 Ohio Athletic Conference quarterfinal win over Marietta College, where she became the Cardinal’s new all-time scoring leader. She added one assist to each matchup and totaled eight draw controls between the two games. The Cardinals take on Mount Union in tomorrow night's OAC Semifinal.

Defensive Player of the Week

Mindy St. Marie – Keene State College

St. Marie was named the Little East Conference Defensive Player of the Week after totaling 10 ground balls and eight caused turnovers, to go with six goals, four assists and 10 draw controls in a 2-0 week for the Owls, leading them to the No. 4 seed in this week’s conference tournament. She caused four turnovers while tallying seven ground balls, four draw controls, two goals and two assists in a 16-9 win at UMass-Dartmouth before notching six draw controls, four caused turnovers, three ground balls, four goals and two assists in a 17-1 triumph over Rhode Island College. The Owls secured the No. 4 seed in the LEC tournament and will host No. 5 Eastern Connecticut State University in tonight’s quarterfinal round.
Looking forward to the announcement of the seedlings for the tourney. It will be interesting how the committee handles some teams records vs RPI.

Does anybody know if Rhatigan from NW was hurt the first few games? She doesn’t appear in the box score in SU and BC games. This kid is a great player scoring 3 to 6 goals a a game. Very fast as well. She is a game changer for NW. She played great in MD game.

Should be a great tourney.
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Looking forward to the announcement of the seedlings for the tourney. It will be interesting how the committee handles some teams records vs RPI.

Does anybody know if Rhatigan from NW was hurt the first few games? She doesn’t appear in the box score in SU and BC games. This kid is a great player scoring 3 to 6 goals a a game. Very fast as well. She is a game changer for NW. She played great in MD game.

Should be a great tourney.


Interesting looking at the RPI just out. Lots of teams that were ranked low last year much better up the rankings. One or two really surprises low.
Stop whining
Yes. She was out the first four games. Totally different offense with her especially in transition
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Yes. She was out the first four games. Totally different offense with her especially in transition
Was she out or just did not play , the announcer in one of the game’s essential said she just did not get in but has now been moved into the line up . Either way she seems to be a weapon for them .
I agree totally different team with her athletic/natural ability. Was she injured for those first four games? Interesting to see if SU and BC scores would be different early in year if she was playing
Belle smith ACC middie of the year!
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Belle smith ACC middie of the year!

That wasn't me.
Well deserved; way to go Belle!
Are you a college coach or just a parent using this forum as your anonymous microphone? The answer to that question is obvious because If you were a college coach you would know that the player of the year awards for every position is decided by the coaches voting.
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Are you a college coach or just a parent using this forum as your anonymous microphone? The answer to that question is obvious because If you were a college coach you would know that the player of the year awards for every position is decided by the coaches voting.

Actually not true , each conference has their own rules as to the selection process.
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.
Do we like the brackets?
I’ll make some quarter final guesses:

Northwestern vs Penn St
Syracuse vs JMU
North Carolina vs Denver
BC vs ND

Not too bold, I know.
My Quarter picks

NW over Stony Brook
Syracuse over Maryland
Florida over BC
UNC over UVA

Finals

NW over Syracuse
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.
The odds of Florida getting by ND and then beating BC is less than 10 percent in my opinion. Florida had a hard time with ECU in their conference semi final game. They are a bit of an inconsistent team that relies on a few top scorers - that makes themMn easy to game plan for. They would be out gunned and out coached from the opening whistle in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

LOL how do you know what you are capable of if sitting on the bench? You know not of misfortune?? Kudo to the big fish in the pond that can elevate that team to compete with the best. To the fish that is laying the foundation to being something bigger than themselves by creating something? There are different ways of slicing it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca


Not the original poster but you probably have no friends.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

Think you missed the point of the post. Congrats.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

LOL how do you know what you are capable of if sitting on the bench? You know not of misfortune?? Kudo to the big fish in the pond that can elevate that team to compete with the best. To the fish that is laying the foundation to being something bigger than themselves by creating something? There are different ways of slicing it.

Ahh yes, the big fish in the small pond, also known as The Queen of
Mediocracy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

LOL how do you know what you are capable of if sitting on the bench? You know not of misfortune?? Kudo to the big fish in the pond that can elevate that team to compete with the best. To the fish that is laying the foundation to being something bigger than themselves by creating something? There are different ways of slicing it.

I wonder how your daughters teammates feal about your selfish and arrogant attitude? Do they know how you look down upon them? Does your daughter hold her teammates in distain as well? Did you pass your attitude along? How would her teammates feel if they knew how little you thought of them? You know, the girls who sit on the bench and cheer your daughter on. Pathetic
This guy so reminds me of a parent on my daughters team. Without giving him up he was a D1 goalie. Worst father I’ve ever seen in 10 years of club. God help one of the girls drop a ball. Well this will give it up. Coming from a guy who in a very very important game turned the ball over for an empty net goal to send it to overtime you would think he had a little more humility. Unfortunately his team picked him up. I bet it’s him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

LOL how do you know what you are capable of if sitting on the bench? You know not of misfortune?? Kudo to the big fish in the pond that can elevate that team to compete with the best. To the fish that is laying the foundation to being something bigger than themselves by creating something? There are different ways of slicing it.

Ahh yes, the big fish in the small pond, also known as The Queen of
Mediocracy.

OK , this officially jumped the shark with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

Think you missed the point of the post. Congrats.

Looks to me like the point was intended to bash the young women at the top programs who do not get much game time.
Congrats to all the girls that play in college regardless of how competitive their teams are and their amount of playing time. No offense but the original poster was insulting to the players that go to the better lacrosse programs and dont see as much playing time as they would like. There is no choice that is the right or wrong choice for everyone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The odds of Florida getting by ND and then beating BC is less than 10 percent in my opinion. Florida had a hard time with ECU in their conference semi final game. They are a bit of an inconsistent team that relies on a few top scorers - that makes themMn easy to game plan for. They would be out gunned and out coached from the opening whistle in my opinion.
ND is the same, relies on the 3 players to win games. BC face guarded one in the ACC semi's and ND looked lost. only scored 4 goals for the game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The odds of Florida getting by ND and then beating BC is less than 10 percent in my opinion. Florida had a hard time with ECU in their conference semi final game. They are a bit of an inconsistent team that relies on a few top scorers - that makes themMn easy to game plan for. They would be out gunned and out coached from the opening whistle in my opinion.
ND is the same, relies on the 3 players to win games. BC face guarded one in the ACC semi's and ND looked lost. only scored 4 goals for the game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

Think you missed the point of the post. Congrats.

Looks to me like the point was intended to bash the young women at the top programs who do not get much game time.
You are playing chess while they are playing checkers. Their original post was absolutely meant to degrade those players that wanted the challenge of playing at the highest levels ,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

Think you missed the point of the post. Congrats.

Looks to me like the point was intended to bash the young women at the top programs who do not get much game time.
You are playing chess while they are playing checkers. Their original post was absolutely meant to degrade those players that wanted the challenge of playing at the highest levels ,
Here is the question...how are you challenging yourself if you don't get to play? You challenge yourself in practice - with your own teammates?
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll – May 8



After winning the Big Ten Tournament championship this weekend, Northwestern was voted into the No. 1 spot in the final regular-season poll. Boston College, Syracuse, and North Carolina follow to round out the top four after not playing this past weekend.

Denver extended its undefeated win streak, rounding out the Top 5 after clinching their third-straight Big East title and earning one first-place vote in the Week 13 poll.

The Florida Gators jumped two spots into the sixth position after topping James Madison in the AAC final, ending the Dukes’ 17-game win streak.

The Week 13 poll marks the last ILWomen/IWLCA Division I Poll of the 2023 regular season, with the final poll of the year set to be released on Tuesday, May 30.

The poll is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Prev

1 Northwestern (17 - 1) 424 (16) 1
2 Boston College (16 - 3) 405 2
3 Syracuse (16 - 2) 383 4
4 North Carolina (14 - 4) 374 3
5 Denver (19 - 0) 369 (1) 5
6 Florida (16 - 3) 330 8
7 James Madison (17 - 2) 311 6
8 Notre Dame (13 - 5) 300 7
9 Loyola (17 - 2) 294 9
10 Stony Brook (14 - 3) 265 11
11 Maryland (14 - 6) 253 10
12 Virginia (11 - 6) 241 12
13 Penn (13 - 4) 217 14
14 Army (15 - 3) 196 15
15 Michigan (11 - 7) 180 16
16 UMass (16 - 2) 137 13
17 Richmond (16 - 3) 135 22
18 USC (16 - 3) 134 17
19 Johns Hopkins (8 - 8) 107 18
20 Penn State (11 - 6) 99 21
21 UConn (12 - 6) 87 24
22 Marquette (15 - 3) 61 19
23 Clemson (12 - 6) 48 20
24 Rutgers (8 - 9) 41 23
25 Yale (11 - 6) 38 NR
RV Jacksonville, Navy, Drexel, Mercer, UAlbany
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll – May 8



The West Chester Golden Rams head into the NCAA Tournament with a perfect 19-0 record, sitting at the No. 1 spot in the ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll for the eighth-straight week.

No. 2 Tampa and No. 3 Pace follow behind, trading places from the week prior after Pace was knocked off by Le Moyne in the NE-10 championship game. As a result of the Dolphins’ win, 18-2 Le Moyne bumped up a spot into the No. 4 position, while UIndy rounds out the Top 5.

The Week 12 poll marks the final ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll of the 2023 season, with the final poll of the year set to be released on Tuesday, May 30.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.
Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 West Chester (19 - 0) 521 (18) 1
2 Tampa (17 - 2) 492 (2) 3
3 Pace (17 - 2) 482 (1) 2
4 Le Moyne (18 - 2) 464 5
5 UIndy (17 - 2) 441 4
6 Florida Southern (16 - 3) 426 6
7 Regis (CO) (17 - 1) 393 7
8 Wingate (17 - 2) 357 8
9 Rollins (15 - 3) 355 8
10 Flagler (17 - 1) 342 10
11 Maryville (17 - 2) 313 11
12 Adelphi (12 - 6) 303 12
13 Embry-Riddle (13 - 5) 264 13
14 Grand Valley (14 - 4) 249 14
15 Saint Anselm (13 - 5) 206 17
16 Bentley (10 - 7) 186 16
17 East Stroudsburg (13 - 5) 181 15
18 New Haven (11 - 7) 166 18
19 Lynn (12 - 6) 134 19
20 Mercy (13 - 6) 124 20
21 Kutztown (13 - 5) 106 23
22 Seton Hill (15 - 4) 104 22
23 Assumption (9 - 8) 76 21
24 Colorado Mesa (11 - 6) 53 24
25 Saint Leo (10 - 7) 30 25
RV Mount Olive, Newberry, Southern New Hampshire, Northern Mich., Lee
2023 ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll – May 8



Middlebury was unanimously voted back into the No. 1 spot, finishing the regular season ILWomen/IWLCA Division III Poll atop the rankings every week of the regular season.

Washington and Lee and William Smith followed in the second and third positions, respectively, while Wesleyan dropped three spots to No. 7 after losing 13-11 to Tufts on Saturday.

As a result of Wesleyan’s loss, Salisbury and the Jumbos bumped into the fourth and fifth spots to round out the Top 5.

The Week 11 poll marks the final ILWomen/IWLCA Division II Poll of the 2023 season, with the final poll of the year set to be released on Tuesday, May 30.

The ILWomen/IWLCA Poll will be unveiled Mondays throughout the season. It is voted on jointly by coaches throughout the country and members of the media.

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 Middlebury (18 - 0) 525 (21) 1
2 Washington and Lee (18 - 1) 501 2
3 William Smith (18 - 0) 483 3
4 Salisbury (14 - 3) 448 5
5 Tufts (14 - 4) 430 7
6 TCNJ (15 - 3) 408 6
7 Wesleyan (14 - 3) 402 4
8 Franklin & Marshall (15 - 4) 373 10
9 Gettysburg (15 - 4) 357 8
10 York (16 - 3) 354 9
11 Messiah (14 - 4) 307 11
12 Colby (12 - 5) 301 12
13 Trinity (CT) (11 - 5) 263 13
14 Amherst (9 - 6) 224 14
15 Williams (10 - 6) 212 15
16 Roanoke (15 - 3) 208 16
17 Chicago (16 - 2) 202 17
18 Pomona-Pitzer (18 - 1) 180 18
19 St. John Fisher (16 - 2) 165 19
20 Stevens (17 - 2) 92 23
21 Kenyon (17 - 1) 80 21
22 Cortland (14 - 4) 78 20
23 MIT (16 - 3) 62 22
24 Christopher Newport (10 - 8) 33 NR
25 Bowdoin (6 - 10) 31 24
RV Haverford, Geneseo, Denison, Ithaca, Union
DIVISION I


Offensive Player of the Week

Izzy Scane – Northwestern University

Scane earned the honor of Big Ten Tournament MVP after leading the No. 1 Wildcats to a Big Ten Conference Title, taking down No. 16 University of Michigan and No. 12 University of Maryland along the way. Scane combined for eight goals on 22 total shots, registered five assists, and added two ground balls. The attacker currently leads the nation in points with 108 (81 goals, 27 assists). Her goal total ranks her second in the nation. This is Scane's third IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season. Northwestern earned the No. 1 overall seed in the NCAA Tournament and has received a bye to the second round.

Defensive Player of the Week

Emily Bohi – University of Denver

Bohi made a career-high 13 saves in the Big East Conference Championship game against No. 24 University of Connecticut. She posted a .684 save percentage in the 11-6 victory over the Huskies and was named the Big East Tournament's Most Outstanding Player and All-Tournament Team select. Denver is a perfect 19-0 on the season and will head into the NCAA Regionals as the No. 5 seed and will host the Southern California Trojans in the first round this Friday.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Keri Barnett – West Chester University

Barnett was named the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference Tournament MVP after leading the No. 1 Golden Rams to its conference-record 25th crown over the weekend. Barnett combined for 10 points (8 goals, 2 assists), six draw controls, five ground balls and four caused turnovers across two games en route to a PSAC Title. The Nation’s Division II leaders have earned the No. 1 overall seed in the Atlantic Region and will host No. 4 seeded Seton Hill in the regional semifinals this Friday. This is Barnett's second IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season.

Defensive Player of the Week

Paige Crandall – Le Moyne College

Crandall recorded 17 saves and was named the Northeast-10 Most Valuable Player after the No. 5 Dolphins earned a 14-13 come-from-behind win to claim the program's third Northeast-10 title. Her 17 saves on Sunday also marked a new career-high. This is Crandall's second IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season. The second-seeded Dolphins will take on the 12th-ranked and third-seeded Adelphi University this Friday in the opening round of the NCAA Division II Championship.
DIVISION III


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Elle Moshier – Plymouth State University

Moshier was named the Little East Conference Offensive Player of the Week after totaling six goals and four assists for 10 points to lead the Panthers’ attack on their way to winning the 2023 LEC tournament title and being named the LEC Championship Most Outstanding Player. She went off for a season-high five goals in Plymouth State’s 11-10 overtime triumph over Western Connecticut State University in the title game, including burying the game-winner on a free position attempt 1:08 into the extra frame. This Saturday, Plymouth will take on No. 13 Trinity College in the first round of the NCAA DIII Championship.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Grace Osborn – Capital University

Grace led Capital to their second consecutive Ohio Athletic Conference Tournament Championship as the first-ever non-No.1 seed to win the tournament! She recorded six goals, three assists, two ground balls, one caused turnover and three draw controls against John Carroll University in the semifinal before exploding for 13 goals, two assists, and 12 draws in the title game over the University of Mount Union. Her 15 points against the Raiders is a new Capital single-game record, while her 13 goals tied her own single-game record. Osborn also crossed the 225-career goal mark, now standing at 228 goals in just 35 games. She has now earned IWLCA honors twice this season. Capital is set to take on Transylvania University in the first round of the 2023 NCAA Tournament.

Defensive Player of the Week

Caroline O’Dea – Denison University

O'Dea was named the North Coast Athletic Conference Tournament MVP after finishing with 13 saves and a .619 save percentage in a 14-8 title win over undefeated No. 21-ranked Kenyon College. She made six saves in the third quarter alone and kept Kenyon from tying the game until Denison scored three goals in the final two minutes of the third quarter. O'Dea had a combined 24 saves and 15 goals allowed (.615 save percentage; 7.50 goals-against average), while playing all 120 minutes in the tournament en route to being named the MVP. The Big Red will take on Hope College on Friday in the first round of the NCAA Division III tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

Such a transparent post, the jealousy never seems to end with some of you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats to all the girls that play in college regardless of how competitive their teams are and their amount of playing time. No offense but the original poster was insulting to the players that go to the better lacrosse programs and dont see as much playing time as they would like. There is no choice that is the right or wrong choice for everyone.

A much better written post. If that what the original poster meant he should clarify but yes. There are no wrong decisions. If my daughter chooses to go to BC and sits for three years and she’s fine with that. That’s great. If she gets sick of it after a year, that’s what the portal is for. And if she chooses to go to a team like Coastal Carolina and play as a freshman but never get the chance to go to the final tourney that’s fine as well. It’s their choice.
When does the transfer portal open up?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a shout out to all of the LI Ladies (that do not play for your favorite top teams because they actually wanted to play and not ride the bench), who had tremendous seasons in their conferences!!

There are many reasons athletes don’t choose top lacrosse programs. Kudos to them for making a difference in their programs, having a great academic, lacrosse and social balance.

So true. That’s what it’s about. I tell my daughter you’re nuts wanting to go to a top 15 team and not play. Go top 25-50, school you love and where you are going to play from year one.
She didn’t listen. But she still enjoys it.

To each her own.

I will choose to give a shout out to all the players who have the courage to challenge themselves, to the players who believe in themselves and their ability. I will shout out to the players who want to compete against the best, to the players that know that the reward comes from the daily effort, grind and process.

I will shout out to all who are willing to lay it all on the line each and every day even if they do not see the field on game day. I give my shout out to all who face adversity and never quit, to the ones who support their teammates and work hard each day in practice to help prepare the team for the game. I will give my shout out to all who play for the women next to them, to the players who believe in being part of something larger than themselves.

I will leave you with the following quote to meditate on:

"I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent - no one can know what you are capable of, not even you."

- Seneca

Think you missed the point of the post. Congrats.

Looks to me like the point was intended to bash the young women at the top programs who do not get much game time.
You are playing chess while they are playing checkers. Their original post was absolutely meant to degrade those players that wanted the challenge of playing at the highest levels ,
Here is the question...how are you challenging yourself if you don't get to play? You challenge yourself in practice - with your own teammates?

You cannot be serious with this question. Yes the players on teams at the top lacrosse schools get challenged almost everyday whether or not they are starters. If you do not think they are highly competitive with one another then its obvious you do not know how hard they work. The fact that these top level players push each other is one of the main reasons these programs are so successful.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats to all the girls that play in college regardless of how competitive their teams are and their amount of playing time. No offense but the original poster was insulting to the players that go to the better lacrosse programs and dont see as much playing time as they would like. There is no choice that is the right or wrong choice for everyone.

A much better written post. If that what the original poster meant he should clarify but yes. There are no wrong decisions. If my daughter chooses to go to BC and sits for three years and she’s fine with that. That’s great. If she gets sick of it after a year, that’s what the portal is for. And if she chooses to go to a team like Coastal Carolina and play as a freshman but never get the chance to go to the final tourney that’s fine as well. It’s their choice.

No need to clarify, we all know who the post was trying to belittle young women. Small minded individuals always try to diminish others by attempting to elevate themselves or in this case their daughter. It never works.
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.
As the sport grows there wil be more early tournament upsets and everyone loves an underdog to shake things up! It's great foe the sport!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.

Virginia got killed on draws. Bad coaching. Need a change. They underperform year after year. Very bad loss. Congratulations to Albany, they played with heart!
Very competitive games today. Fun watching on west coast. Love the 9:00am start times!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.

Virginia got killed on draws. Bad coaching. Need a change. They underperform year after year. Very bad loss. Congratulations to Albany, they played with heart!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.

Virginia got killed on draws. Bad coaching. Need a change. They underperform year after year. Very bad loss. Congratulations to Albany, they played with heart!

She graduates girls, get great feedback from players and has a NCAA team every year. Lax is a non revenue sport. Get a grip
I agree with UVA. Need to look at men’s program and say why not women’s. Many schools need to do this overall. Same standard.

Lots of good games today for sure as evenly matched second round games across the board(except SU). UNC game much closer than I would have thought as road for them pretty clear. UNC defense struggled a little versus what I could see a very moving offense from UR. They played hard. UNC offense still work in progress right now. Need to be better against DU for sure

SB and Loyola a great game. Joe still brings it every game.

BC and NW still at top.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.

Virginia got killed on draws. Bad coaching. Need a change. They underperform year after year. Very bad loss. Congratulations to Albany, they played with heart!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.

Virginia got killed on draws. Bad coaching. Need a change. They underperform year after year. Very bad loss. Congratulations to Albany, they played with heart!


Prime example of players not choosing “big” programs so that they can actually play and make a difference.

And enough with the BS Grad Students playing it effected 4 years of this sport. One year to go. It will be nice to see teams play without these super seniors.
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.

Here’s the reality transfer portal not going away and red shirt 5th and 6th year players are and have always been around. So stop with the poor me BS and work harder. When my daughter was a junior there were freshman coming in same age as her, life is not fair stop complaining.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.

Here’s the reality transfer portal not going away and red shirt 5th and 6th year players are and have always been around. So stop with the poor me BS and work harder. When my daughter was a junior there were freshman coming in same age as her, life is not fair stop complaining.


Another winner on this site. And I doubt your daughter was anywhere near the level of Lipkin. But please continue to type anonymously from your keyboard while acting like a troll/donk.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.

I have a feeling there will be a number of girls leaving Maryland.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with UVA. Need to look at men’s program and say why not women’s. Many schools need to do this overall. Same standard.

Lots of good games today for sure as evenly matched second round games across the board(except SU). UNC game much closer than I would have thought as road for them pretty clear. UNC defense struggled a little versus what I could see a very moving offense from UR. They played hard. UNC offense still work in progress right now. Need to be better against DU for sure

SB and Loyola a great game. Joe still brings it every game.

BC and NW still at top.


What exactly does Joe bring every game?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.

Virginia got killed on draws. Bad coaching. Need a change. They underperform year after year. Very bad loss. Congratulations to Albany, they played with heart!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Albany leading UVA 15-12 4 min left….one of our neighbors on Long Island ex-UVA says southern lax is elegant and graceful, NY lax in your face rough and tumble…excellent example here

What a comeback by the lady Danes!! We’re down 10-3 in the 3rd I believe.

Virginia got killed on draws. Bad coaching. Need a change. They underperform year after year. Very bad loss. Congratulations to Albany, they played with heart!


Prime example of players not choosing “big” programs so that they can actually play and make a difference.

And enough with the BS Grad Students playing it effected 4 years of this sport. One year to go. It will be nice to see teams play without these super seniors.

**** - "Prime example of players not choosing “big” programs so that they can actually play and make a difference." - ****


^^^^^^^^

Nonsense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with UVA. Need to look at men’s program and say why not women’s. Many schools need to do this overall. Same standard.

Lots of good games today for sure as evenly matched second round games across the board(except SU). UNC game much closer than I would have thought as road for them pretty clear. UNC defense struggled a little versus what I could see a very moving offense from UR. They played hard. UNC offense still work in progress right now. Need to be better against DU for sure

SB and Loyola a great game. Joe still brings it every game.

BC and NW still at top.


What exactly does Joe bring every game?

Wow they let you post a quasi negative post about him. They’ll probably take that down.
The Loyola blue print should help bring in a lot of really good player to the "mid majors" going forward. Young women that are real good players, not "ranked" as a top 100, but physically equal or better than the "better" girls. Go to a winning school that is always near the top of their conference, therefore is in play to get an automatic bid to the national tourney every year. The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits. The ACC will probably always have the most talent as a conference, but the Virginias of the world getting knocked out by Albany will not "shock the lacrosse world" going forward(see Inside Lacrosse article).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Loyola blue print should help bring in a lot of really good player to the "mid majors" going forward. Young women that are real good players, not "ranked" as a top 100, but physically equal or better than the "better" girls. Go to a winning school that is always near the top of their conference, therefore is in play to get an automatic bid to the national tourney every year. The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits. The ACC will probably always have the most talent as a conference, but the Virginias of the world getting knocked out by Albany will not "shock the lacrosse world" going forward(see Inside Lacrosse article).

Complete nonsense.

What exactly is the "Loyola Blue Print"?

The following quote takes the cake:

"The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits."

Thanks for letting us all know that it takes "good recruits" to become a Top 10 Program. Thanks for clearing that up, we thought you could become a Top 10 Program by bringing in weak recruits.

BTW, Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook have been competitive for many years. That said, I would be willing to bet that Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook have very average to below average results vs other Top 10 - 15 Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

How have Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook done Vs Teams that finish the season in the Top 10? or Top 20?

Albany beating Virginia did not "Shock the lacrosse world". Upsets happen, nothing new, good for Albany but really nothing new about an upset. One game or one season does not make a program, performance over time is what defines a program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.
Maryland is all about highlighting their #1 recruit - the same #1 recruit that caused them NOT to be able to go into OT against JMU because she tried to force the shot (missed) and missed a pass causing the turnover. Is she a good player? Yes. Is she a selfish player? YES! She only knows how to play when it's just about her - all teams that she has played on revolve around her. I was disappointed to see Lipken get less playing time this year - didn't deserve that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Loyola blue print should help bring in a lot of really good player to the "mid majors" going forward. Young women that are real good players, not "ranked" as a top 100, but physically equal or better than the "better" girls. Go to a winning school that is always near the top of their conference, therefore is in play to get an automatic bid to the national tourney every year. The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits. The ACC will probably always have the most talent as a conference, but the Virginias of the world getting knocked out by Albany will not "shock the lacrosse world" going forward(see Inside Lacrosse article).

Complete nonsense.

What exactly is the "Loyola Blue Print"?

The following quote takes the cake:

"The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits."

Thanks for letting us all know that it takes "good recruits" to become a Top 10 Program. Thanks for clearing that up, we thought you could become a Top 10 Program by bringing in weak recruits.

BTW, Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook have been competitive for many years. That said, I would be willing to bet that Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook have very average to below average results vs other Top 10 - 15 Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

How have Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook done Vs Teams that finish the season in the Top 10? or Top 20?

Albany beating Virginia did not "Shock the lacrosse world". Upsets happen, nothing new, good for Albany but really nothing new about an upset. One game or one season does not make a program, performance over time is what defines a program.

I'm not nearly as familiar with Loyola and SB, but JMU has more than held their own vs top 10 teams in the past few years, including this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Loyola blue print should help bring in a lot of really good player to the "mid majors" going forward. Young women that are real good players, not "ranked" as a top 100, but physically equal or better than the "better" girls. Go to a winning school that is always near the top of their conference, therefore is in play to get an automatic bid to the national tourney every year. The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits. The ACC will probably always have the most talent as a conference, but the Virginias of the world getting knocked out by Albany will not "shock the lacrosse world" going forward(see Inside Lacrosse article).

Complete nonsense.

What exactly is the "Loyola Blue Print"?

The following quote takes the cake:

"The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits."

Thanks for letting us all know that it takes "good recruits" to become a Top 10 Program. Thanks for clearing that up, we thought you could become a Top 10 Program by bringing in weak recruits.

BTW, Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook have been competitive for many years. That said, I would be willing to bet that Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook have very average to below average results vs other Top 10 - 15 Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

How have Loyola, JMU and Stony Brook done Vs Teams that finish the season in the Top 10? or Top 20?

Albany beating Virginia did not "Shock the lacrosse world". Upsets happen, nothing new, good for Albany but really nothing new about an upset. One game or one season does not make a program, performance over time is what defines a program.

I'm not nearly as familiar with Loyola and SB, but JMU has more than held their own vs top 10 teams in the past few years, including this year.

Just took a quick look, since 2016 (not 2020 & 2023 because we do not have final end of season rankings).

JMU was: 7 - 17 Vs Top 10 Teams

JMU was 18 - 22 Vs Top 20 Teams

JMU Won the National Championship in 2018.


JMU, Loyola and SBU are all Top 15 Programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.
Maryland is all about highlighting their #1 recruit - the same #1 recruit that caused them NOT to be able to go into OT against JMU because she tried to force the shot (missed) and missed a pass causing the turnover. Is she a good player? Yes. Is she a selfish player? YES! She only knows how to play when it's just about her - all teams that she has played on revolve around her. I was disappointed to see Lipken get less playing time this year - didn't deserve that.

She should go play with her sister at Penn State.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Loyola blue print should help bring in a lot of really good player to the "mid majors" going forward. Young women that are real good players, not "ranked" as a top 100, but physically equal or better than the "better" girls. Go to a winning school that is always near the top of their conference, therefore is in play to get an automatic bid to the national tourney every year. The Loyolas, JMU and Stoney Brooks have become top 10 programs because they win their conference and can bring in good recruits. The ACC will probably always have the most talent as a conference, but the Virginias of the world getting knocked out by Albany will not "shock the lacrosse world" going forward(see Inside Lacrosse article).


Loyola doesn't belong in the Patriot League. They have never lost a regular season Patriot league game. This year every game was a blowout, they outscored Patriot League opponents162-43. League play is like scrimmages for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.
Maryland is all about highlighting their #1 recruit - the same #1 recruit that caused them NOT to be able to go into OT against JMU because she tried to force the shot (missed) and missed a pass causing the turnover. Is she a good player? Yes. Is she a selfish player? YES! She only knows how to play when it's just about her - all teams that she has played on revolve around her. I was disappointed to see Lipken get less playing time this year - didn't deserve that.

Maryland really missed Cordingly this year and her selfless play.
To complete nonsense guy, the post was made regarding the numerous posts that only credit the "top programs". The arrogance of so many posters that dismiss any school not "top ranked" amazes me, I'm sure you are one of these superstars that probably never played any kind of high level athletics. There is plenty of good lacrosse outside of the big 5(UNC, NW, Cuse, BC, MD). Recruiting is obviously the life blood of college sports and winning mid level conference with the chance to play in the tourney will attrack more of the top and overlooked players. The talent level of the teams outside the top 5 is closing the gap and creating great competition.

I doubt you were a math major, but every top 10/20/30 team has a very average or below average results against the top teams, that's what make the top teams so good smart guy. It doesn't take away the fact that there are many great places to play lacrosse for any young women that wants to study there.

You can continue to just follow the "top" teams and look down on all the other teams and the young women who work their butts off to be high achieving student athletes.
Bokker out at Ohio State. I wonder who is gonna get get that job.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bokker out at Ohio State. I wonder who is gonna get get that job.
I'm curious why she is out with one year left on her Contract - can't just be due to their record?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To complete nonsense guy, the post was made regarding the numerous posts that only credit the "top programs". The arrogance of so many posters that dismiss any school not "top ranked" amazes me, I'm sure you are one of these superstars that probably never played any kind of high level athletics. There is plenty of good lacrosse outside of the big 5(UNC, NW, Cuse, BC, MD). Recruiting is obviously the life blood of college sports and winning mid level conference with the chance to play in the tourney will attrack more of the top and overlooked players. The talent level of the teams outside the top 5 is closing the gap and creating great competition.

I doubt you were a math major, but every top 10/20/30 team has a very average or below average results against the top teams, that's what make the top teams so good smart guy. It doesn't take away the fact that there are many great places to play lacrosse for any young women that wants to study there.

You can continue to just follow the "top" teams and look down on all the other teams and the young women who work their butts off to be high achieving student athletes.

Everybody gets a trophy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the super seniors. Not a fan of the portal either but then again. Maybe I should be. Not fair to some of these kids that get recruited to play and then the next year they can recruit a kid who takes their spot. There was one instance on Maryland this year. Interesting to see if she leaves Maryland as a junior.
Maryland is all about highlighting their #1 recruit - the same #1 recruit that caused them NOT to be able to go into OT against JMU because she tried to force the shot (missed) and missed a pass causing the turnover. Is she a good player? Yes. Is she a selfish player? YES! She only knows how to play when it's just about her - all teams that she has played on revolve around her. I was disappointed to see Lipken get less playing time this year - didn't deserve that.

Selfish and does not make anyone around her better. Gonna be a rough couple of years at Maryland for the players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bokker out at Ohio State. I wonder who is gonna get get that job.
I'm curious why she is out with one year left on her Contract - can't just be due to their record?


I thought her contract was up.
See here is what you are so quick to forget and anyone who knows anything about that the game just sits there and laughs at you for your negative commentary about young women. Maryland was winning 14-10 with 6:22 left to play in the game, a FOUR goal lead. At 6:21 left in the game JMU scored, making it 14-11, at 5:45 left in the game JMU scored making it 14-12, at 2:42 left in the game JMU scored making it 14-13, at 2:04 left in the game JMU scored making it 14-14, and finally at 0:54 left in the game JMU scored making it 15-14. You know what caused each of those goals to be scored against Maryland? A lost draw or maybe a turnover, then an offense beating a defense, and finally a save not being made. ALL of these things together CAUSED a goal to be scored against them because if one of them didn't happen then the goal is never scored. Lacrosse is a team game and there were TEAM breakdowns that CAUSED them to not go into OT against JMU well before the shot was taken with 0:27 left in the game to give them a CHANCE at going into OT against JMU. With 0:18 seconds left on the clock a turnover occurred, but did that sole mistake cause them to NOT go into OT? No, because there were countless things that had happened PRIOR to that, that contributed to the TEAM not advancing. Arguably they should have never even been in that position at that time. If it weren't for the many other CASUES that occurred, like not winning a draw, not making a save, not finishing shots, etc. what had happened in those last 30 seconds wouldn't have mattered. Did the save by the JMU goalie and turnover play a factor, obviously because they lost possession and were unable to score a tying goal, but so did every other thing that happened in the last 6 minutes of that game. Each of the mistakes that had happened collectively caused them to be in that position at that time of the turnover. So to sit there and say that was what "caused them to NOT be able to go into OT" is just downright foolish. Lacrosse is a team game and last time I checked there are 12 players on the field and not just one. I'd love to see you go out there and take the draw, pass to yourself, shoot, play defense, AND save the ball against another team's 12 players ! Until then, keep your negative commentary to yourself. Just love the game and celebrate the incredibly hard work of all the athletes that get the honor to be called a college lacrosse player no matter the division!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bokker out at Ohio State. I wonder who is gonna get get that job.
I'm curious why she is out with one year left on her Contract - can't just be due to their record?


I thought her contract was up.
Nope, still have one year left on her five year Contract
Originally Posted by Anonymous
See here is what you are so quick to forget and anyone who knows anything about that the game just sits there and laughs at you for your negative commentary about young women. Maryland was winning 14-10 with 6:22 left to play in the game, a FOUR goal lead. At 6:21 left in the game JMU scored, making it 14-11, at 5:45 left in the game JMU scored making it 14-12, at 2:42 left in the game JMU scored making it 14-13, at 2:04 left in the game JMU scored making it 14-14, and finally at 0:54 left in the game JMU scored making it 15-14. You know what caused each of those goals to be scored against Maryland? A lost draw or maybe a turnover, then an offense beating a defense, and finally a save not being made. ALL of these things together CAUSED a goal to be scored against them because if one of them didn't happen then the goal is never scored. Lacrosse is a team game and there were TEAM breakdowns that CAUSED them to not go into OT against JMU well before the shot was taken with 0:27 left in the game to give them a CHANCE at going into OT against JMU. With 0:18 seconds left on the clock a turnover occurred, but did that sole mistake cause them to NOT go into OT? No, because there were countless things that had happened PRIOR to that, that contributed to the TEAM not advancing. Arguably they should have never even been in that position at that time. If it weren't for the many other CASUES that occurred, like not winning a draw, not making a save, not finishing shots, etc. what had happened in those last 30 seconds wouldn't have mattered. Did the save by the JMU goalie and turnover play a factor, obviously because they lost possession and were unable to score a tying goal, but so did every other thing that happened in the last 6 minutes of that game. Each of the mistakes that had happened collectively caused them to be in that position at that time of the turnover. So to sit there and say that was what "caused them to NOT be able to go into OT" is just downright foolish. Lacrosse is a team game and last time I checked there are 12 players on the field and not just one. I'd love to see you go out there and take the draw, pass to yourself, shoot, play defense, AND save the ball against another team's 12 players ! Until then, keep your negative commentary to yourself. Just love the game and celebrate the incredibly hard work of all the athletes that get the honor to be called a college lacrosse player no matter the division!
Hit a nerve^
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To complete nonsense guy, the post was made regarding the numerous posts that only credit the "top programs". The arrogance of so many posters that dismiss any school not "top ranked" amazes me, I'm sure you are one of these superstars that probably never played any kind of high level athletics. There is plenty of good lacrosse outside of the big 5(UNC, NW, Cuse, BC, MD). Recruiting is obviously the life blood of college sports and winning mid level conference with the chance to play in the tourney will attrack more of the top and overlooked players. The talent level of the teams outside the top 5 is closing the gap and creating great competition.

I doubt you were a math major, but every top 10/20/30 team has a very average or below average results against the top teams, that's what make the top teams so good smart guy. It doesn't take away the fact that there are many great places to play lacrosse for any young women that wants to study there.

You can continue to just follow the "top" teams and look down on all the other teams and the young women who work their butts off to be high achieving student athletes.

Where are all these posts that "dismiss" any school that is not "top ranked"?

What I see most often are posts that attack players who get a lot of recognition and posts that attack "top programs" or programs that get a lot of recognition. Some people just can not take it when other players receive more recognition than their daughter or if a program is stronger than their daughters program.
Haters are gonna have to wait another game for their what happened to Belle post.
Anybody know the Boston College score? 🤫
5 of the 16 remaining D3 teams are from the NESCAC. No team from the conference has lost yet in the tournament. That will change in the next set of games as conference cannibalism begins.
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
Final four with UNC out in Cary NC will be a disaster for attendance. It basically will be parents and friends as lax in NC overall isn't important as in MD, PA, LI or NY. They won't get the casual fan as Hopkins did last yer.
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Final four with UNC out in Cary NC will be a disaster for attendance. It basically will be parents and friends as lax in NC overall isn't important as in MD, PA, LI or NY. They won't get the casual fan as Hopkins did last yer.

DI Carey, NC
DII Indianapolis, IN
DIII Salem, VA

I guess in an attempt to “grow the sport” the finals are outside traditional hot spots. DIII is in love with Salem, which I don’t understand why.

Good DII schools in Midwest so not a stretch.

It will be interesting to see attendance for DI.
I think a lot of fans are thrilled to see UNC not in the final four. Its also great for the sport.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Final four with UNC out in Cary NC will be a disaster for attendance. It basically will be parents and friends as lax in NC overall isn't important as in MD, PA, LI or NY. They won't get the casual fan as Hopkins did last yer.

So true! Why wouldn’t they put the finals in a more centralized location as to where the hotbed of lacrosse is!? So hard for people to get to NC. I don’t think it will have a great turnout, and that’s unfortunate. Also Unfortunate for the youth players who would like to go watch the finals as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Final four with UNC out in Cary NC will be a disaster for attendance. It basically will be parents and friends as lax in NC overall isn't important as in MD, PA, LI or NY. They won't get the casual fan as Hopkins did last yer.

So true! Why wouldn’t they put the finals in a more centralized location as to where the hotbed of lacrosse is!? So hard for people to get to NC. I don’t think it will have a great turnout, and that’s unfortunate. Also Unfortunate for the youth players who would like to go watch the finals as well.

I agree there are better choices than North Carolina. Philly, Boston or even Northern Virginia could be a good choice.

However, for anyone who went last year, hosting it at Hopkins was a complete disaster. Over an hour to park your car and a 15 minute walk to field with no directions. Concession stands out of food and water before halftime.

I'm pretty confident in saying pigs will fly before the NCAA hosts another lax event at Hopkins.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
UNC is a true young team this year (unlike MD, who didn't even make it to the Elite 8). Last year UNC was stacked, this year they have to rebuild. Loved seeing Denver win though.
Whoever thinks the game being in NC and UNC not being in the final four will effect the audience turn out is really stretching. The Final Four have been played in the Philly area, MD and LI...they need to spread it out to grow the sport.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
UNC is a true young team this year (unlike MD, who didn't even make it to the Elite 8). Last year UNC was stacked, this year they have to rebuild. Loved seeing Denver win though.
Whoever thinks the game being in NC and UNC not being in the final four will effect the audience turn out is really stretching. The Final Four have been played in the Philly area, MD and LI...they need to spread it out to grow the sport.

Yes, true. They do need to grow the sport. However, I believe the majority of youth girl players who are die hard fans are still in the same area. (PA, MD, NJ, NY, CT) I get it’s growing, but as far as this year goes, it’s still those areas. I don’t think those kids are going to be able to talk their parents into going to NC? They will watch it on TV instead. I do believe it will have a big impact on Fan turnout this year. It’s also sad those young kids won’t get to see it live this year. I think Play where most of the young fans are. That’s where they still are, for now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
UNC is a true young team this year (unlike MD, who didn't even make it to the Elite 8). Last year UNC was stacked, this year they have to rebuild. Loved seeing Denver win though.
Whoever thinks the game being in NC and UNC not being in the final four will effect the audience turn out is really stretching. The Final Four have been played in the Philly area, MD and LI...they need to spread it out to grow the sport.

Yes, true. They do need to grow the sport. However, I believe the majority of youth girl players who are die hard fans are still in the same area. (PA, MD, NJ, NY, CT) I get it’s growing, but as far as this year goes, it’s still those areas. I don’t think those kids are going to be able to talk their parents into going to NC? They will watch it on TV instead. I do believe it will have a big impact on Fan turnout this year. It’s also sad those young kids won’t get to see it live this year. I think Play where most of the young fans are. That’s where they still are, for now.
My husband took my daughter to all the locations that they played....didn't matter the distance
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
UNC is a true young team this year (unlike MD, who didn't even make it to the Elite 8). Last year UNC was stacked, this year they have to rebuild. Loved seeing Denver win though.
Whoever thinks the game being in NC and UNC not being in the final four will effect the audience turn out is really stretching. The Final Four have been played in the Philly area, MD and LI...they need to spread it out to grow the sport.

Yes, true. They do need to grow the sport. However, I believe the majority of youth girl players who are die hard fans are still in the same area. (PA, MD, NJ, NY, CT) I get it’s growing, but as far as this year goes, it’s still those areas. I don’t think those kids are going to be able to talk their parents into going to NC? They will watch it on TV instead. I do believe it will have a big impact on Fan turnout this year. It’s also sad those young kids won’t get to see it live this year. I think Play where most of the young fans are. That’s where they still are, for now.
My husband took my daughter to all the locations that they played....didn't matter the distance

Nice, if you have those kinds of means to be able to do that. Many do not.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
UNC is a true young team this year (unlike MD, who didn't even make it to the Elite 8). Last year UNC was stacked, this year they have to rebuild. Loved seeing Denver win though.
Whoever thinks the game being in NC and UNC not being in the final four will effect the audience turn out is really stretching. The Final Four have been played in the Philly area, MD and LI...they need to spread it out to grow the sport.

Yes, true. They do need to grow the sport. However, I believe the majority of youth girl players who are die hard fans are still in the same area. (PA, MD, NJ, NY, CT) I get it’s growing, but as far as this year goes, it’s still those areas. I don’t think those kids are going to be able to talk their parents into going to NC? They will watch it on TV instead. I do believe it will have a big impact on Fan turnout this year. It’s also sad those young kids won’t get to see it live this year. I think Play where most of the young fans are. That’s where they still are, for now.
My husband took my daughter to all the locations that they played....didn't matter the distance

Nice, if you have those kinds of means to be able to do that. Many do not.

Wonder why they don’t play same location as the boys, all the games are on different days!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
UNC is a true young team this year (unlike MD, who didn't even make it to the Elite 8). Last year UNC was stacked, this year they have to rebuild. Loved seeing Denver win though.
Whoever thinks the game being in NC and UNC not being in the final four will effect the audience turn out is really stretching. The Final Four have been played in the Philly area, MD and LI...they need to spread it out to grow the sport.

Yes, true. They do need to grow the sport. However, I believe the majority of youth girl players who are die hard fans are still in the same area. (PA, MD, NJ, NY, CT) I get it’s growing, but as far as this year goes, it’s still those areas. I don’t think those kids are going to be able to talk their parents into going to NC? They will watch it on TV instead. I do believe it will have a big impact on Fan turnout this year. It’s also sad those young kids won’t get to see it live this year. I think Play where most of the young fans are. That’s where they still are, for now.
My husband took my daughter to all the locations that they played....didn't matter the distance

I've taken my daughters to the last 5 finals - all (admittedly long) day trips.This one would be a 3 day affair. Big difference.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow UNC not looking good, now or in the future. Yikes! On the other side we will have some very exciting games!!
UNC is a true young team this year (unlike MD, who didn't even make it to the Elite 8). Last year UNC was stacked, this year they have to rebuild. Loved seeing Denver win though.
Whoever thinks the game being in NC and UNC not being in the final four will effect the audience turn out is really stretching. The Final Four have been played in the Philly area, MD and LI...they need to spread it out to grow the sport.

Yes, true. They do need to grow the sport. However, I believe the majority of youth girl players who are die hard fans are still in the same area. (PA, MD, NJ, NY, CT) I get it’s growing, but as far as this year goes, it’s still those areas. I don’t think those kids are going to be able to talk their parents into going to NC? They will watch it on TV instead. I do believe it will have a big impact on Fan turnout this year. It’s also sad those young kids won’t get to see it live this year. I think Play where most of the young fans are. That’s where they still are, for now.
My husband took my daughter to all the locations that they played....didn't matter the distance

I've taken my daughters to the last 5 finals - all (admittedly long) day trips.This one would be a 3 day affair. Big difference.


NGLL is being held in NC the same weekend attendance will be fine.
Pace with the route! Although as some people here at BOTC say who cares, obviously the girls who went there didn’t want to challenge themselves. 🙄
Congratulations to Pace! D2 Champions!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pace with the route! Although as some people here at BOTC say who cares, obviously the girls who went there didn’t want to challenge themselves. 🙄

Such a foolish post.

Some on here should get help for their inferiority complex.
Pace absolutely rolled them. I quit watching somewhere in the 2nd, but congrats to them!

As to the games being in NC and those complaining they've only had to make day trips in the past. Welcome to the world of those that live west of the east coast. We warmly welcome you to our club!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pace absolutely rolled them. I quit watching somewhere in the 2nd, but congrats to them!

As to the games being in NC and those complaining they've only had to make day trips in the past. Welcome to the world of those that live west of the east coast. We warmly welcome you to our club!

I enjoyed this post as I get on I70 leaving Indianapolis!
Newcomer to the D3 Final Four as William Smith joins regulars Middlebury, Franklin & Marshal and Gettysburg.
Predicting Northwestern over Denver. NW has the dominating players. BC over Syracuse. This is a close one but I think BC just a bit hotter right now.
Teams I would love to see win in order:

Denver
Northwestern
Cuse
BC

Will be a fun weekend of battle with very talented teams
I would love to see Denver beat Northwestern - only because it's an upset (I like both teams). I just don't know if it'll happen...either way, hoping for a good game and not a blow out. Cuse/BC is going to be a tight one, I think.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would love to see Denver beat Northwestern - only because it's an upset (I like both teams). I just don't know if it'll happen...either way, hoping for a good game and not a blow out. Cuse/BC is going to be a tight one, I think.

I don't see Denver with the upset BUT I also didn't see them beating UNC and definitely wouldn't have put money on Denver holding them to 4 goals. Should be a fun final four (hopefully).
I don't think Denver's D will be their undoing if they lose. It will come down to their ability to score. NU comes up with some great D looks, so I think the edge really comes down to better offensive units. With Scane and the rest of the NU players, I give them the edge. I'd love to see Denver with this one!
NW will beat Denver by 10 goals. BC beats Cuse by 2-3 goals.

NW offense of scheme will be more complete than UNC. They have options that other teams don’t have on offense. The shooting range and FP opportunities that NW will get will be difference. They will play offense from up top and edges not behind-this has been their game all year. Denver won’t score more than 3-5 goals. NW D is very aggressive.

BC wins as the defense of BC is better than SU and will make a few more stops.

Good luck to all teams. Should be some exciting games.
Congrats to the IWLCA All-Americans. This is generally the most accepted list of the best players in the country and not the over-hyped media darlings. That said in my opinion some questionable placements.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pace with the route! Although as some people here at BOTC say who cares, obviously the girls who went there didn’t want to challenge themselves. 🙄

Such a foolish post.

Some on here should get help for their inferiority complex.

Good for PACE and the haters on here that pooh poo anyone not on a top 20 D1 team. Foolish post - no one EVER posts the good from all teams to promote the sport. How about IL reports on all conferences and all divisions to show a multitude of talent . But it means nothing to the people on here. You want the sport to grow - grow it!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pace with the route! Although as some people here at BOTC say who cares, obviously the girls who went there didn’t want to challenge themselves. 🙄

Such a foolish post.

Some on here should get help for their inferiority complex.

Good for PACE and the haters on here that pooh poo anyone not on a top 20 D1 team. Foolish post - no one EVER posts the good from all teams to promote the sport. How about IL reports on all conferences and all divisions to show a multitude of talent . But it means nothing to the people on here. You want the sport to grow - grow it!!!

You keep bashing people who come on here bashing players who are not on top D1 programs but I just don't see it happening. Yes they bash the Stanfords/Dukes of the world but seems that is done because those teams claim to be top 20 when they are not.
DIVISION I


Offensive Player of the Week

Izzy Scane – Northwestern University

In No. 1 Northwestern’s NCAA Quarterfinal matchup against No. 9 Loyola Maryland, Scane registered seven goals and three assists for 10 points. She added two caused turnovers to her stat line as well. Scane’s 10 points currently stands as the most points scored in an NCAA Tournament game this season. She ranks in the Top 10 for points ever in an NCAA Tournament game and is second in the nation in total goals with 89 and first overall in goals per game (4.94). Currently, Scane has the second-most goals scored in program history in a single season, trailing herself in 2021. This is Scane’s fourth IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season. Northwestern faces the No. 5 seeded University of Denver in this Friday’s Semifinals of the NCAA Division I Championship.

Defensive Player of the Week

Gracie DeRose – University of Denver

DeRose helped No. 5 Denver defeat No. 4 University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill in the NCAA Quarterfinal round, 5-4. She recorded five ground balls, one draw control and three caused turnovers in the matchup. One of her key caused turnovers came in the fourth quarter during a UNC possession. Her defensive efforts helped hold UNC scoreless in the final two quarters, leading the Tar Heels to their lowest output all year. The undefeated Pioneers will take on No. 1 Northwestern this Friday for the NCAA Division I Semifinals in Cary, North Carolina.
DIVISION II


Offensive Player of the Week

Kayla Conway – Pace University

En route to claiming its first National Title in program history, the No. 3 ranked Pace Setters defeated No. 1 West Chester University 19-9 on Sunday in Indianapolis. Conway tallied three goals, one assist, eight draw controls, and two groundballs in the matchup. Her strong performance also earned her Tournament Most Valuable Player as the Setters finished 21-2 for the season.

Defensive Player of the Week

Alexandra Quinn – Pace University

Quinn recorded six draw controls and two groundballs in the National Championship against West Chester. The junior defender was named to the All-Tournament Team for her defensive efforts.
DIVISION III


Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Jane Earley – Middlebury College

Earley posted a career-high nine points on five goals and four assists in No. 1 Middlebury’s NCAA Tournament Third-Round victory over No. 13 Trinity College. On Sunday, she led the Panthers in a tight game with No. 12 Colby College, recording a five-point effort (1 goal, 4 assists), matching her career high in assists in a single game. She also led the team in draw controls on both days with a combined total of 16. This is Earley’s third IWLCA Player of the Week honor this season. The Panthers will meet No. 8 Franklin and Marshall College this Friday in the Semifinal Round of the NCAA Division III Championship.

Co-Offensive Player of the Week

Maddie Montgomery – William Smith College

Montgomery led No. 3 William Smith to a pair of NCAA tournament victories over the weekend. On Saturday against No. 19 St. John Fisher University, she factored into all six of William Smith's goals in a 6-5 win. She scored five goals, including the game-winning goal with 2:10 left in regulation. Against No. 5 Tufts University, Montgomery added four goals and an assist. With her first goal against the Cardinals, Montgomery set the William Smith single-season goals record. With her third goal against the Jumbos, she became just the third player in program history with 200 career goals. Montgomery also set the William Smith career draw control record on Sunday. William Smith will take on No. 9 Gettysburg College for this Friday’s Championship Semifinal.

Defensive Player of the Week

Gillian Cortese – Gettysburg College

Cortese backstopped Gettysburg’s defense to a pair of wins in the Regional Round of the NCAA tournament. She made nine saves, including four in the fourth quarter of an 11-8 win over No. 2 Washington and Lee University before stopping a career-high 10 in a 17-8 win over No. 10 York College of Pennsylvania a day later.
IWLCA Celebrates 2023 Division II All-American Teams

48 STUDENT-ATHLETES HONORED



The IWLCA has named the 48 student-athletes who were selected for one of the 2023 Division II All-American teams – honorees are divided into first, second, and third teams. The IWLCA All-Americans represent 22 different institutions and are the best athletes in our game this year.

First Team

Alexandra Beebe Adelphi University Graduate Defense
Molly Bursinger Grand Valley State University Senior Midfield
Kayla Conway Pace University Graduate Midfield
Aleya Corretjer Pace University Graduate Attack
Jessica Gorr West Chester University Senior Goalkeeper
Lizzy Lynch Florida Southern College Graduate Attack
Emily Mitarotonda East Stroudsburg University Junior Midfield
Lindsay Monigle West Chester University Graduate Attack
Angelina Porcello Pace University Junior Midfield
Maggie Sell East Stroudsburg University Senior Defense
Hannah Stanislawczyk West Chester University Junior Midfield
Jackie Stoller Florida Southern College Graduate Midfield
Sydney Tiemann Maryville University Senior Attack
Gina Verrone Florida Southern College Graduate Defense
Kelsey Viger Colorado Mesa University Junior Defense
Dani Waters University of Tampa Graduate Defense


Second Team

Keri Barnett West Chester University Sophomore Midfield
Maddy Champagne Grand Valley State University Junior Attack
Riley DiFiore East Stroudsburg University Graduate Goalkeeper
Grace Frasso West Chester University Junior Defense
Caroline Gastonguay Rollins College Graduate Attack
Sara Goodwin Le Moyne College Graduate Attack
Sarah Hinkle University of Tampa Junior Attack
Lucy Johnson Regis University Graduate Attack
Leah Knowles Wingate University Senior Midfield
Alexandra Quinn Pace University Junior Defense
Emma Rafferty Pace University Graduate Attack
Lindsey Shimborske Mercy College Sophomore Defense
Sallie Squire Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University Sophomore Midfield
Bailey Stumpf Limestone University Junior Defense
Bailey Truex Regis University Senior Midfield
Amy Vegh University of Indianapolis Senior Defense


Third Team

Megan Biase Wingate University Senior Goalkeeper
Caitlin Costello Dominican University New York Sophomore Attack
Sarah Dudick Limestone University Senior Midfield
Joey Fowler University of Indianapolis Junior Attack
Sam Graf Kutztown University Sophomore Midfield
Kerrin Heuser Adelphi University Senior Midfield
Jenna Joseph Assumption University Senior Attack
Makayla Kintner Seton Hill University Senior Defense
Emma Meakim Kutztown University Junior Attack
Jessica Meneilly Le Moyne College Graduate Attack
Lexie Morton Flagler College Senior Attack
Taylor Reich Le Moyne College Graduate Defense
Erin Sistek University of Tampa Graduate Defense
Ronnie Skorcz Maryville University Junior Defense
Madison Tare Florida Southern College Senior Attack
Anna Ziemba University of Indianapolis Senior Attack
IWLCA Names 2023 Division III All-American Teams

57 STUDENT-ATHLETES HONORED



The IWLCA has named the 57 student-athletes who were selected for one of the 2023 Division III All-American teams – honorees are divided into first, second, and third teams. This group of IWLCA All-Americans represent 29 different institutions and are the best athletes in our game this year.


First Team


Erica Barr Middlebury College Senior Defense
Jordan Basso Gettysburg College Junior Attack
Margie Carden Tufts University Sophomore Attack
Sydney Carpenter St. John Fisher College Sophomore Midfield
Jane Earley Middlebury College Senior Attack
Isabella Garabo York College Senior Goalkeeper
Grace Gormley Messiah University Senior Defense
Natalie Held Salisbury University Sophomore Defense
Emma Joyce Tufts University Junior Midfield
Lily Macatee Gettysburg College Sophomore Defense
Allie McGinty William Smith College Junior Attack
Maddie Montgomery William Smith College Senior Midfield
Kate Risley William Smith College Junior Defense
Eugenie Rovegno Washington and Lee University Junior Defense
Susan Rowley Middlebury College Junior Midfield
Allie Schwab Washington and Lee University Senior Attack
Hope Shue Middlebury College Sophomore Attack
Ally Tobler The College of New Jersey Junior Attack
Kelsey Winters Christopher Newport University Senior Attack


Second Team

Wayden Ay The College of New Jersey Senior Defense
Hanna Bishop Washington and Lee University Junior Attack
Kiersten Blanchard York College Senior Attack
Gianna Bruno Colby College Senior Attack
Lydia Cassilly Franklin & Marshall College Sophomore Attack
Julia Charest The College of New Jersey Junior Goalkeeper
Rachel Delate Messiah University Senior Attack
Shannon Foster St. John Fisher College Junior Defense
Elizabeth Hennessey Colby College Senior Midfield
Julia Iapicca Christopher Newport University Senior Midfield
Olivia Lai Wesleyan University Senior Attack
Meghan Lane Hamilton College Junior Defense
Molly McGuckin Trinity College First-Year Attack
Tiffany Mikulis Haverford College Sophomore Midfield
Grace Osborn Capital University Sophomore Midfield
Ellie Rabenold Massachusetts Institute of Technology Senior Attack
Emma Skoglund Salisbury University Graduate Attack
Maggie Sweeney Pomona-Pitzer Colleges Senior Midfield
Erin Trotta Wesleyan University Senior Defense


Third Team

Maddy Birch Franklin & Marshall College Senior Attack
Emmy Bryden York College Senior Defense
Ryleigh Cavanaugh Roger Williams University Senior Draw Specialist
Emily Curtis Babson College Graduate Attack
Madeline Delaney Tufts University Junior Midfield
Anna Devlin The College of New Jersey Senior Attack
Belle Dintino Franklin & Marshall College First-Year Defense
Kendall Havill Colorado College Junior Attack
Kaitlyn Hunsinger Salisbury University Senior Goalkeeper
Rachel Keefe University of Chicago Sophomore Goalkeeper
Jillian Mazzocca Colby College Senior Defense
Colleen Mooney Amherst College Senior Defense
Ellie Morrall Washington College Senior Midfield
Caroline O'Neil Kenyon College Senior Attack
Camryn Rogers Stevens Institute of Technology Graduate Attack
Claudia Russell Williams College Sophomore Midfield
Caroline Sullivan Gettysburg College Junior Midfield
Shannon Timoney Washington and Lee University Junior Midfield
Kylie Wilson Middlebury College Sophomore Defense
IWLCA Recognizes 2023 Division I All-American Teams

48 student-athletes honored



The IWLCA has named the 48 student-athletes who were selected for one of the 2023 Division I All-American teams – honorees are divided into first, second, and third teams. This group of IWLCA All-Americans represent 18 different institutions and are the best athletes in our game this year.


First Team

Kasey Choma University of Notre Dame Senior Midfield
Erin Coykendall Northwestern University Senior Attack
Mairead Durkin James Madison University Senior Defense
Maddie Jenner Duke University Graduate Draw Specialist
Jenn Medjid Boston College Graduate Attack
Emily Nalls University of North Carolina Senior Defense
Isabella Peterson James Madison University Junior Attack
Sydney Scales Boston College Junior Defense
Izzy Scane Northwestern University Graduate Attack
Belle Smith Boston College Junior Midfield
Delaney Sweitzer Syracuse University Senior Goalkeeper
Sam Thacker University of Denver Senior Defense
Meaghan Tyrrell Syracuse University Graduate Attack
Emma Ward Syracuse University Junior Attack
Jillian Wilson Loyola University Maryland Graduate Midfield
Jackie Wolak University of Notre Dame Senior Attack


Second Team

Meghan Ball Rutgers University Senior Defense
Abby Bosco University of Maryland, College Park Graduate Defense
Rachel Clark University of Virginia Sophomore Attack
Mckenna Davis Boston College Sophomore Attack
Katie Detwiler Loyola University Maryland Graduate Defense
Emily Heller University of Florida Senior Midfield
Emma LoPinto University of Florida Sophomore Attack
Ellie Masera Stony Brook University Junior Midfield
Ashlyn McGovern University of Virginia Graduate Attack
Trinity McPherson University of Denver Graduate Defense
Sarah Reznick University of Florida Junior Goalkeeper
Hailey Rhatigan Northwestern University Graduate Attack
Jill Smith University of Michigan Sophomore Attack
Arden Tierney University of Richmond Senior Draw Specialist
Cassidy Weeks Boston College Graduate Midfield
Samantha White Northwestern University Sophomore Defense


Third Team

Shaylan Ahearn University of Maryland, College Park Senior Midfield
Madison Ahern University of Notre Dame Senior Attack
Megan Carney Syracuse University Graduate Attack
Eloise Clevenger University of Maryland, College Park Junior Attack
Sierra Cockerille Syracuse University Graduate Midfield
Lindsey Frank University of Richmond Senior Attack
Mackenzie Hoeg University of Virginia Junior Midfield
Ellie Hollin Pennsylvania State University Sophomore Defense
Tai Jankowski James Madison University Senior Attack
Abby Jenkins University of Denver Junior Draw Specialist
Georgia Latch Loyola University Maryland Sophomore Attack
Alyssa Long University of North Carolina Junior Midfield
Rachel Matey
James Madison University Senior Defense
Lauren Spence Loyola University Maryland Sophomore Goalkeeper
Brooklyn Walker-Welch University of North Carolina Sophomore Defense
Emma Wightman University of Southern California Graduate Defense
Middlebury with the 22-13 win over Franklin & Marshall. Can William Smith beat Gettysburg for a battle of the undefeated in the final?
Emily LoPinto in the transfer portal thoughts?
A freshman from Clemson already in the portal & she had a good season
Northwestern too much for Denver.
Gettysburg over William Smith. No undefeated D3 final.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A freshman from Clemson already in the portal & she had a good season
Saw that as well. Surprised. Top 3 scorer as a freshman. Makes you wonder...
BC and Syracuse didn’t disappoint.
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.
How can you see who enters the portal?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

Potentially game saving defensive play. BC “D” showed up today. Will need better ”O” in the final.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can you see who enters the portal?
You can’t, ILWomen did an article of some players currently in portal & will update occasionally.
Belle Smith had the winning defensive play to win the game! Congrats!
I’ve always loved grass fields. The rain is creating a tough playing surface which is causing all the turnovers. Sloppy game.

First six goals all LI.
Wow! What a beatdown. BC forgot to show up. Burned in every aspect. Love to see it. Look on AW face priceless. Can’t stand her
Congratulations to Middlebury. D3 champs and undefeated. Clearly the class of D3.
Congratulations to Northwestern. Boston College played as miserable a game as could be played. Northwestern dominated in every positive statistic. Total domination.

Both finals today were blow outs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! What a beatdown. BC forgot to show up. Burned in every aspect. Love to see it. Look on AW face priceless. Can’t stand her

Not really her fault today. BC forgot how to play the game. It has to be the worst loss of the six. Her facial expression did reflect that.

On the other hand Amonte Hiller gets her first shot clock championship, something she was instrumental in creating because of her mastery of holding the ball for her other championships.
The visceral detest for BC players/coaching staff on this site is stunning. Sorry you “can’t stand AWW”, although can’t fathom why (unless your kid wasn’t good enough to play at BC); now that your nemesis has lost, you can finally sleep easy tonight! SMH
Originally Posted by baldbear
I’ve always loved grass fields. The rain is creating a tough playing surface which is causing all the turnovers. Sloppy game.

First six goals all LI.
Why does that matter? Just curious?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
I’ve always loved grass fields. The rain is creating a tough playing surface which is causing all the turnovers. Sloppy game.

First six goals all LI.
Why does that matter? Just curious?

Most games are played on turf. The Final Four played on grass (on a soccer field actually) and with today’s weather it created a surface most players don’t experience much. It was equal for both sides but a lot of players slipping a falling, especially in the first half.
Originally Posted by baldbear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
I’ve always loved grass fields. The rain is creating a tough playing surface which is causing all the turnovers. Sloppy game.

First six goals all LI.
Why does that matter? Just curious?

Most games are played on turf. The Final Four played on grass (on a soccer field actually) and with today’s weather it created a surface most players don’t experience much. It was equal for both sides but a lot of players slipping a falling, especially in the first half.

Yellow Jackets players soft. TG player schooled them
Originally Posted by baldbear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! What a beatdown. BC forgot to show up. Burned in every aspect. Love to see it. Look on AW face priceless. Can’t stand her

Not really her fault today. BC forgot how to play the game. It has to be the worst loss of the six. Her facial expression did reflect that.

On the other hand Amonte Hiller gets her first shot clock championship, something she was instrumental in creating because of her mastery of holding the ball for her other championships.

Great call out on the rule change, what a great move by the sport. With BC making 6 straight finals going 1-5, I looked back for similar teams that have had that type of run. Maryland made 8 in a row from 1994-2001 winning 7 straight and going 7-1. Northwestern also made 8 in a row from 2005-2012. They went 7-1 as well. To your earlier point, both before the shot clock era but still incredibly impressive.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

You obviously don’t watch the games , her coaches sub her out quite a bit on the defensive side for a reason . Yes her best defense is the “ make up “ check because she gets beat a lot . She is not terrible defensively but not one of the better defensive middies and it showed in the finals . Your hype of every thing she does is what makes people post the opposite . Her last two games of the season were really an example of what her whole season was . Congrats to her on the IWLCA first team AA but she did not deserve it this year . The kid from SBU outplayed her all year and is just 1 example of players who deserved it more .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The visceral detest for BC players/coaching staff on this site is stunning. Sorry you “can’t stand AWW”, although can’t fathom why (unless your kid wasn’t good enough to play at BC); now that your nemesis has lost, you can finally sleep easy tonight! SMH


Looks like it was yours that wasn’t good enough to play there, lol. Not my nemesis, just detest the entitled attitude of the players, coaches, and parents. Would never route for them!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! What a beatdown. BC forgot to show up. Burned in every aspect. Love to see it. Look on AW face priceless. Can’t stand her

I’m sure , All AW could think about was missing Charlotte! Without out her , she wasn’t beating NW! Izzy is there Charlotte this year. BC has to find a new Charlotte!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The visceral detest for BC players/coaching staff on this site is stunning. Sorry you “can’t stand AWW”, although can’t fathom why (unless your kid wasn’t good enough to play at BC); now that your nemesis has lost, you can finally sleep easy tonight! SMH


Looks like it was yours that wasn’t good enough to play there, lol. Not my nemesis, just detest the entitled attitude of the players, coaches, and parents. Would never route for them!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

You obviously don’t watch the games , her coaches sub her out quite a bit on the defensive side for a reason . Yes her best defense is the “ make up “ check because she gets beat a lot . She is not terrible defensively but not one of the better defensive middies and it showed in the finals . Your hype of every thing she does is what makes people post the opposite . Her last two games of the season were really an example of what her whole season was . Congrats to her on the IWLCA first team AA but she did not deserve it this year . The kid from SBU outplayed her all year and is just 1 example of players who deserved it more .

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

You obviously don’t watch the games , her coaches sub her out quite a bit on the defensive side for a reason . Yes her best defense is the “ make up “ check because she gets beat a lot . She is not terrible defensively but not one of the better defensive middies and it showed in the finals . Your hype of every thing she does is what makes people post the opposite . Her last two games of the season were really an example of what her whole season was . Congrats to her on the IWLCA first team AA but she did not deserve it this year . The kid from SBU outplayed her all year and is just 1 example of players who deserved it more .

Hmm. Nah. I’m gonna say it’s not his/ her hype of everything makes people post the opposite. It’s the animonsity from a girl who played on the island and was committed at 8th grade. For some reason, whether the post about boyfriends was accurate or maybe you guys lost in High School against her, you guys can’t let it go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

You obviously don’t watch the games , her coaches sub her out quite a bit on the defensive side for a reason . Yes her best defense is the “ make up “ check because she gets beat a lot . She is not terrible defensively but not one of the better defensive middies and it showed in the finals . Your hype of every thing she does is what makes people post the opposite . Her last two games of the season were really an example of what her whole season was . Congrats to her on the IWLCA first team AA but she did not deserve it this year . The kid from SBU outplayed her all year and is just 1 example of players who deserved it more .

Hmm. Nah. I’m gonna say it’s not his/ her hype of everything makes people post the opposite. It’s the animonsity from a girl who played on the island and was committed at 8th grade. For some reason, whether the post about boyfriends was accurate or maybe you guys lost in High School against her, you guys can’t let it go.


Correct. The BS detest was long before I made this account and started sticking up for her. Whether that poster is new, IDK but they were “detesting” on Belle long before myself and one or two other posters started posting positive things about her.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

You obviously don’t watch the games , her coaches sub her out quite a bit on the defensive side for a reason . Yes her best defense is the “ make up “ check because she gets beat a lot . She is not terrible defensively but not one of the better defensive middies and it showed in the finals . Your hype of every thing she does is what makes people post the opposite . Her last two games of the season were really an example of what her whole season was . Congrats to her on the IWLCA first team AA but she did not deserve it this year . The kid from SBU outplayed her all year and is just 1 example of players who deserved it more .

Hmm. Nah. I’m gonna say it’s not his/ her hype of everything makes people post the opposite. It’s the animonsity from a girl who played on the island and was committed at 8th grade. For some reason, whether the post about boyfriends was accurate or maybe you guys lost in High School against her, you guys can’t let it go.

Why is it you cannot debate lacrosse accolades on a lacrosse forum without some know nothing about lacrosse like you trying to make it personal. Was not a very good offensive year for her considering I am sure they were hoping she would pick up more of the lost offense when CN left . She is not a great defender and rarely used on the circle. Again there are several better middies out there and the SBU kid is one of them . It’s also ridiculous that the Wilson kid is not a tewaaraton finalist .
So, let me get this straight…because BC lost, it’s on BS? Not understanding the logic? Not understanding the distaste for her either? She won the game for them against CUSE, that check kept OA from scoring & tieing the game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

You obviously don’t watch the games , her coaches sub her out quite a bit on the defensive side for a reason . Yes her best defense is the “ make up “ check because she gets beat a lot . She is not terrible defensively but not one of the better defensive middies and it showed in the finals . Your hype of every thing she does is what makes people post the opposite . Her last two games of the season were really an example of what her whole season was . Congrats to her on the IWLCA first team AA but she did not deserve it this year . The kid from SBU outplayed her all year and is just 1 example of players who deserved it more .

Hmm. Nah. I’m gonna say it’s not his/ her hype of everything makes people post the opposite. It’s the animonsity from a girl who played on the island and was committed at 8th grade. For some reason, whether the post about boyfriends was accurate or maybe you guys lost in High School against her, you guys can’t let it go.

Why is it you cannot debate lacrosse accolades on a lacrosse forum without some know nothing about lacrosse like you trying to make it personal. Was not a very good offensive year for her considering I am sure they were hoping she would pick up more of the lost offense when CN left . She is not a great defender and rarely used on the circle. Again there are several better middies out there and the SBU kid is one of them . It’s also ridiculous that the Wilson kid is not a tewaaraton finalist .

Jealousy is the root of all evil
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

You obviously don’t watch the games , her coaches sub her out quite a bit on the defensive side for a reason . Yes her best defense is the “ make up “ check because she gets beat a lot . She is not terrible defensively but not one of the better defensive middies and it showed in the finals . Your hype of every thing she does is what makes people post the opposite . Her last two games of the season were really an example of what her whole season was . Congrats to her on the IWLCA first team AA but she did not deserve it this year . The kid from SBU outplayed her all year and is just 1 example of players who deserved it more .

Hmm. Nah. I’m gonna say it’s not his/ her hype of everything makes people post the opposite. It’s the animonsity from a girl who played on the island and was committed at 8th grade. For some reason, whether the post about boyfriends was accurate or maybe you guys lost in High School against her, you guys can’t let it go.

Why is it you cannot debate lacrosse accolades on a lacrosse forum without some know nothing about lacrosse like you trying to make it personal. Was not a very good offensive year for her considering I am sure they were hoping she would pick up more of the lost offense when CN left . She is not a great defender and rarely used on the circle. Again there are several better middies out there and the SBU kid is one of them . It’s also ridiculous that the Wilson kid is not a tewaaraton finalist .

This one’s priceless. She’s a friggin midfielder. Not an attacker. There’s probably 652 midfielders in the NCAA D1 that wish they could get half of the 52 goals that she got. Or the 31 assists she got. No she’s not a fantastic defender. But lost offensive midfielders aren’t. Take the hateraid somewhere else. She puts up those stats playing against the top teams in the country. Ridiculous you guys continue to cast dispersions on this girl for personal reasons.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, let me get this straight…because BC lost, it’s on BS? Not understanding the logic? Not understanding the distaste for her either? She won the game for them against CUSE, that check kept OA from scoring & tieing the game.

No. The excuse on that one is she got beat and was able to do a trail check. BS gets more points in o e season than his daughter got in a career on varsity. I’m also gonna say his daughter hasn’t stepped foot on a college field also with the amount of detest from him.
So it’s no longer that she’s a bad defender. And it’s no longer “she’s not even captain.” Now the new nonsense is she was expected to pick up for CN. That was Jen Medjid. My not daughter is a midfielder. Think she did pretty good offensively with basically the same amount of points. What’s next? Only ten teammates showed up to her beach house. She plays on BC. Tons of good players. If she was on JMU everybody would love Belle. We’ll except the mom from… you know.
Full disclosure, Idislike BC. They are much more tolerable without CN. Not a fan of the coach. Seems like she’s always muggin for the cameras. That being said I have to agree. The detest on this site for BS is ridiculous. She is certainly a top 10 midfielder is she the best no but she is one of the best.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, let me get this straight…because BC lost, it’s on BS? Not understanding the logic? Not understanding the distaste for her either? She won the game for them against CUSE, that check kept OA from scoring & tieing the game.

There is not one person who has blamed her for the loss, and if they did it would be just as I’ll informed for crediting her with the Cuse win .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full disclosure, Idislike BC. They are much more tolerable without CN. Not a fan of the coach. Seems like she’s always muggin for the cameras. That being said I have to agree. The detest on this site for BS is ridiculous. She is certainly a top 10 midfielder is she the best no but she is one of the best.
Wow another poster with reading comprehension issues . I more or less agree with you but my point was simple , based on her play this season she was not a team 1 ( top 3 ) AA midfielder in the country . There were others who were more deserving based on their play this season .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full disclosure, Idislike BC. They are much more tolerable without CN. Not a fan of the coach. Seems like she’s always muggin for the cameras. That being said I have to agree. The detest on this site for BS is ridiculous. She is certainly a top 10 midfielder is she the best no but she is one of the best.
Wow another poster with reading comprehension issues . I more or less agree with you but my point was simple , based on her play this season she was not a team 1 ( top 3 ) AA midfielder in the country . There were others who were more deserving based on their play this season .

This guy is priceless. Where did I even mention anything you said anywhere in my post? . I didn’t even quote a post. I made a general statement because unless you just started reading BOTC today, you will see this pops up every few months for the last two years. Love a poster who calls out people’s reading comprehension skills and then makes a fool of himself. Thank you for tonight’s enjoyment. The world needs more clowns.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full disclosure, Idislike BC. They are much more tolerable without CN. Not a fan of the coach. Seems like she’s always muggin for the cameras. That being said I have to agree. The detest on this site for BS is ridiculous. She is certainly a top 10 midfielder is she the best no but she is one of the best.
Wow another poster with reading comprehension issues . I more or less agree with you but my point was simple , based on her play this season she was not a team 1 ( top 3 ) AA midfielder in the country . There were others who were more deserving based on their play this season .

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The quickest way you can tell someone losing an argument or a debate is either they start yelling or name calling. Quite a few of those here on BOTC. Expect nothing more though. No doubt I’ve seen these parents at their daughter’s club games
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full disclosure, Idislike BC. They are much more tolerable without CN. Not a fan of the coach. Seems like she’s always muggin for the cameras. That being said I have to agree. The detest on this site for BS is ridiculous. She is certainly a top 10 midfielder is she the best no but she is one of the best.
Why bring up individual players in your post ?
Congratulations to any underclassmen whom made any lists amongst the heavy laden GR awards......there's the real talent. To compete against all these super SR's and make a dent is amazing. Too bad they have to fight tooth and nail to get recognized. If it weren't for these Grad Students, things would be a lot different.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full disclosure, Idislike BC. They are much more tolerable without CN. Not a fan of the coach. Seems like she’s always muggin for the cameras. That being said I have to agree. The detest on this site for BS is ridiculous. She is certainly a top 10 midfielder is she the best no but she is one of the best.
Why bring up individual players in your post ?


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Can you imagine your daughter is a freshman/sophomore at Loyola who plays attack and you see Lopinto in transferring there. And maybe Chep. But that’s how it goes. On the flip side my friends daughter going to Florida just moved up on the depth chart.
Why was BC so awful at the draw? You would think a program like that would have one decent draw taker between 4 recruiting classes and access to the portal. Just embarrassing. And AW calling a stick check is downright pathetic. Definitely another of many factors in their loss
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! What a beatdown. BC forgot to show up. Burned in every aspect. Love to see it. Look on AW face priceless. Can’t stand her

I’m sure , All AW could think about was missing Charlotte! Without out her , she wasn’t beating NW! Izzy is there Charlotte this year. BC has to find a new Charlotte!

well, they didnt win with Charlotte last year, ACC tourney either. So.....And they were beat in every category. I dont think having North there would have sealed the deal.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can you imagine your daughter is a freshman/sophomore at Loyola who plays attack and you see Lopinto in transferring there. And maybe Chep. But that’s how it goes. On the flip side my friends daughter going to Florida just moved up on the depth chart.
I’m curious as to why the freshman at Clemson is leaving-she had a good season
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can you imagine your daughter is a freshman/sophomore at Loyola who plays attack and you see Lopinto in transferring there. And maybe Chep. But that’s how it goes. On the flip side my friends daughter going to Florida just moved up on the depth chart.
I’m curious as to why the freshman at Clemson is leaving-she had a good season

This is what I heard so not saying it’s 100% true but it just looks like business. She received a certain pct for the scholarship. After her really good year she wanted to renegotiate but Clemson couldn’t offer her more.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can you imagine your daughter is a freshman/sophomore at Loyola who plays attack and you see Lopinto in transferring there. And maybe Chep. But that’s how it goes. On the flip side my friends daughter going to Florida just moved up on the depth chart.
I’m curious as to why the freshman at Clemson is leaving-she had a good season

Maybe she didn’t get many offers coming out of high school. She proved herself on the field and now wants a more competitive lacrosse team. I’m sure Florida is interested with Lopinto leaving. The dominos will start to fall soon.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full disclosure, Idislike BC. They are much more tolerable without CN. Not a fan of the coach. Seems like she’s always muggin for the cameras. That being said I have to agree. The detest on this site for BS is ridiculous. She is certainly a top 10 midfielder is she the best no but she is one of the best.
Why bring up individual players in your post ?


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I guess I am slow ,not sure what this means.
IWLCA Recognizes 2023 Division II Players of the Year

Four student-athletes honored



The IWLCA has named four All-Americans from Division II as positional Players of the Year. The Division’s selection committee has also chosen one of the positional honorees as the Player of the Year.
DIVISION II

Division II Player of the Year

Angelina Porcello
Pace University
Junior

Division II Positional Players of the Year

Attacker of the Year
Aleya Corretjer
Pace University
Graduate

Midfielder of the Year
Angelina Porcello
Pace University
Junior

Defender of the Year
Gina Verrone
Florida Southern College
Graduate

Goalkeeper of the Year
Jessica Gorr
West Chester University
Senior

Angelina Porcello earns the honor of Division II Player of the Year after scoring 65 goals and 19 assists, placing fourth on the team with 84 points. On the defensive side, she led the team with 142 draw controls, 61 ground balls and 52 caused turnovers while shooting .528 on the year. Her all-around performance on the field also earns her IWLCA Midfielder of the Year recognition. Porcello was named an IWLCA First Team All-American and All-Region First Team honoree this season. She was also listed to the All-Tournament Team after the Setters claimed the 2023 NCAA Division II National Title. She finished her junior year as a CSC Academic All-District Team member with a cumulative GPA of 3.74. Porcello was named IWLCA Offensive Player of the Week back in early March.

Grad student midfielder Aleya Corretjer had the highest-scoring season in Pace history, setting the all-time mark with 121 points. She had a 3.77 cumulative GPA this year while scoring 56 goals and 65 assists. She set the single-season points, single-season assists, single-game assists and all-time assists records this season while picking up 25 ground balls, causing eight turnovers, and handling 16 draw controls. Corretjer was named to the All-Tournament Team after the Setters defeated West Chester for the NCAA Division III National Title. She was a College Sports Communicators Academic All-District Team member with a cumulative GPA of 3.77 and was listed as a First Team IWLCA All-American and All-Region honoree.

Gina Verrone earns IWLCA Defender of the Year after leading the Florida Southern Mocs in draw controls (102), caused turnovers (37) and ground balls (53). She was recognized as an IWLCA First Team All-American and IWLCA First Team All-South Region select. She was listed as a First Team All-Sunshine State Conference honoree as well. Veronne is a CSC Academic All-District At-Large honoree this season and closed her playing career named to the NCAA National Championship All-Tournament Team for her play in the semifinal game against Pace University.

Senior goalkeeper, Jessica Gorr, played to a record of 22-1 between the pipes with a goals-against average of just 7.61 while making 181 saves on the year. Gorr made a career-high 15 stops in the Atlantic Region Championship victory over East Stroudsburg University, before making five more in the national semifinal win over Grand Valley State and another 10 against Pace University in the National Championship Game. Gorr ends the 2023 season with an incredible 35-2 career record and a 7.67 career goals-against average, which ranks third best in team history. She was named to the CSC Academic All-District Team, while also earning IWLCA All-American First Team honors as well.
IWLCA Celebrates 2023 Division I Players of the Year

Four student-athletes honored



The IWLCA has named four All-Americans from Division I as positional Players of the Year. The Division’s selection committee has also chosen one of the positional honorees as the Player of the Year.

DIVISION I

Division I Player of the Year
Izzy Scane
Northwestern University
Graduate

Division I Positional Players of the Year

Attacker of the Year
Izzy Scane
Northwestern University
Graduate

Midfielder of the Year
Jillian Wilson
Loyola University Maryland
Graduate

Defender of the Year
Sam Thacker
University of Denver
Senior

Goalkeeper of the Year
Delaney Sweitzer
Syracuse University
Senior

Izzy Scane earns the honor of Division I Player of the Year after guiding the No. 1 Northwestern Wildcats to their eighth NCAA Division I National Championship. Scane finished as the nation's leading goal scorer, averaging 4.95 goals per game. Her 99 goals this season are first in program history. She has earned five IWCLA Player of the Week awards, her most recent win coming after she set the school’s career (288) and single-season (99) goal record on the same goal in the National Championship game. Scane is a two-time IWCLA First Team All-American and she also claims this year’s Attacker of the Year honor for her outstanding output on offense. Scane was named the Big Ten Conference Attacker of the Year, First Team All-Big Ten Honoree, and is also listed as a Tewaarton Award Finalist for 2023.

Jillian Wilson earns Midfielder of the Year recognition after becoming the 22nd player in Loyola program history to earn First-Team All-America honors. She is a true two-way player, who led the team at the draw circle (198 draw controls) and with 61 goals. Wilson helped the team rank seventh in the country in goals and first in the NCAA in draw control percentage. Wilson ranks fourth in the NCAA in draw controls per game and is a Tewaaraton Award Top-25 Semifinalist and two-time Patriot League Midfielder of the Year. She broke the Loyola single-season and career draw control record, while also breaking the Patriot League single-season draw control. Her NCAA-leading 198 draws rank seventh in NCAA Division I history. She led the team in goals, caused turnovers (22) and draw controls, and was third in points (80).

Sam Thacker, a Lutherville, Maryland native, led Denver with 53 caused turnovers and ranks second on the team with 59 ground balls and third with 45 draw controls. She is one of six players in the country with at least 40 caused turnovers, 40 ground balls and 30 draw controls, and is one of two with 50-plus caused turnovers and ground balls and 40 or more draw controls. Thacker was a unanimous selection for the second straight season as the Big East Defensive Player of the Year and a member of the All-Big East First Team. This season, Thacker became the first player in Denver history to be listed as a two-time IWLCA First Team All-American.

Delaney Sweitzer played a vital role in Syracuse’s success throughout the season, starting every game in goal this season. She ranks eighth in the nation in save percentage (.505), seventh in saves (185), and 12th in goals-against average. In addition, Sweitzer is third nationally in ground balls per game (3.71). The ACC Goalkeeper of the Year and first-team All-ACC honoree posted 10 or more saves in eight games in 2023.
IWLCA Names 2023 Division III Players of the Year

Four student-athletes honored



The IWLCA has named four All-Americans from Division III as positional Players of the Year. The Division’s selection committee has also chosen one of the positional honorees as the Player of the Year.

DIVISION III

Division III Player of the Year
Jane Earley
Middlebury College
Senior

Division III Positional Players of the Year

Attacker of the Year
Jane Earley
Middlebury College
Senior

Midfielder of the Year
Maddie Montgomery
William Smith College
Senior

Defender of the Year
Erica Barr
Middlebury College
Senior

Goalkeeper of the Year
Isabella Garabo
York College
Senior

For a second straight year, Jane Earley is named the Division III Player of the Year and Attacker of the Year by the IWLCA. Earley continues to be a force on the Panther's offense, as she eclipsed the 200-goal mark this season, becoming the second player in program history to do so. She also became the second Panther to win 100 draw controls in a single season. The attacker ranks second in the Panther career books in goals (217), points (290), and draws (257). Earley leads the New England Small College Athletic Conference (NESCAC) in points (106) and draws (138), while ranking third in goals (74) and second in assists (32). She earned two NESCAC Player of the Week and three IWLCA Player of the Week honors this season. Earley was also named the NESCAC Player of the Year and earned a spot on the All-NESCAC First Team for the second year in a row.

Maddie Montgomery secures the Midfielder of the Year honor after starting all 22 games for the Herons, leading her team with 84 goals and 101 points. She is second on the team with 17 assists. Montgomery's 84 goals this season are the most in program history. Montgomery is seventh in the nation in goals. She also leads the Herons with 97 draw controls. Montgomery has recorded 203 goals, 46 assists, and 249 points during her career. She currently holds William Smith's career draw controls record with 246. The 2023 Liberty League Offensive Player of the Year was named an All-American for the fourth time during her career. She is a two-time IWLCA All-American and a two-time USA Lacrosse Magazine All-American. In addition, Montgomery was named to the IWLCA All-Empire Region First team and All-Liberty League First team this season. She was named the Liberty League's Offensive Performer of the Week three times, the USA Lacrosse Magazine Player of the Week once, and the IWLCA Co-Offensive Player of the Week once.

Erica Barr is crowned Defender of the Year after anchoring Middlebury’s defense en route to its ninth National Title. The two-time First Team All-American (2022, 2023) earned a spot on the All-NESCAC First Team and was tabbed the first NESCAC Defensive Player of the Year in Middlebury history. The senior leads the NESCAC with 48 caused turnovers and paces the Panthers with 42 groundballs, which ranks second in the conference. Barr is also third on the team in draw controls with 76 and sits second in the Middlebury record books with 220 in her career.

Isabella Garabo played a pivotal role in the net for the Spartans' success this season. She earned her first IWLCA All-American nod this season as she is a two-time IWLCA All-Metro selection. The senior went 17-4 for the season with a 7.18 goals against average and a .528 save percentage. Her conference numbers are even better as she went 8-0 with a 3.03 goals against average and a .651 save percentage. Garabo was the Middle Atlantic Conference (MAC) Commonwealth Goalie of the Year and earned the Commonwealth Defender of the Week award in six straight weeks. She ranked first in the league in save percentage and was second in goals against average. Garabo is 11th in NCAA Division III in goals against average and 15th in save percentage. Garabo is the sixth Spartan player to earn first-team All-American honors.
Congratulations to Izzy Scane!! Not much of a surprise.
Born, not made. Before all 2027 parents pay out the Wahoo for camps and clinics.
Wish someone told me to start last year and not the three years before
Originally Posted by baldbear
Congratulations to Izzy Scane!! Not much of a surprise.

She clearly separated herself from the rest. Incredible player and well deserved!!
There are a lot of Men’s lacrosse transfers posted. Haven’t seen any from the Women’s side why not? Is it a slower process or not as many transfers?
It's great to see how much effort she puts into her defense. So fun to watch her play!! Is there such a thing as a 2 way attack?haha
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are a lot of Men’s lacrosse transfers posted. Haven’t seen any from the Women’s side why not? Is it a slower process or not as many transfers?
For some reason,t he womens transfer portal isn't public compared to the mens
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's great to see how much effort she puts into her defense. So fun to watch her play!! Is there such a thing as a 2 way attack?haha
You must have only watched the last few games of the season. She is an excellent redefender when she wants to be but you rarely see it, mainly when she turns it over she deserved the Tewaaaraton but I hope next year she shoots at a higher percentage.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's great to see how much effort she puts into her defense. So fun to watch her play!! Is there such a thing as a 2 way attack?haha
You must have only watched the last few games of the season. She is an excellent redefender when she wants to be but you rarely see it, mainly when she turns it over she deserved the Tewaaaraton but I hope next year she shoots at a higher percentage.

Scane was a little off on her shooting in 2023 but her career shooting percentage is .537 which is pretty darn good. Good shooters are usually in the high 400's, the best shooters are above .500 even .550 +. Good shooters / scorers put above 70% of their shots on goal with the best putting an even higher percent of their shots on goal maybe .725, some are above .750....

I'm sure IS will be just fine next year even.

The amazing thing to me is how incompetent coaches allow poor shooters to take a lot of shots. I guess they do not understand that many of those bad shots are actually turnovers....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

First off its both teams first games of the season . Second your ignorance of your top 10 teams is obvious. Lets see how much better the top teams did than the game you watched, UNC had 9 turnovers, BC had 17, cuse 11, NW 16, UVA 8, stanford 14. Give it a rest on knocking teams if you obviously have no clue.

If this guy is still around. You were saying? LMAO
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

First off its both teams first games of the season . Second your ignorance of your top 10 teams is obvious. Lets see how much better the top teams did than the game you watched, UNC had 9 turnovers, BC had 17, cuse 11, NW 16, UVA 8, stanford 14. Give it a rest on knocking teams if you obviously have no clue.

If this guy is still around. You were saying? LMAO

All the Stanford supporters went “cricket, cricket” in the middle of the season. But I’m the beginning they were out in full force. My favorite was the guy who said that people were obsessed with Stanford because they didn’t accept their daughters into the school. I mean they had the audacity to say Stanford wasn’t a top 15 team. Wait, I think they said they weren’t a Top 25 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

First off its both teams first games of the season . Second your ignorance of your top 10 teams is obvious. Lets see how much better the top teams did than the game you watched, UNC had 9 turnovers, BC had 17, cuse 11, NW 16, UVA 8, stanford 14. Give it a rest on knocking teams if you obviously have no clue.

If this guy is still around. You were saying? LMAO

All the Stanford supporters went “cricket, cricket” in the middle of the season. But I’m the beginning they were out in full force. My favorite was the guy who said that people were obsessed with Stanford because they didn’t accept their daughters into the school. I mean they had the audacity to say Stanford wasn’t a top 15 team. Wait, I think they said they weren’t a Top 25 team.

You are the one bringing up Stanford, I would guess that it was you or another Stanford hatter who brought them up early in the season... I guess just another person with an inferiority complex trying to indirectly elevate their daughters school / lacrosse program by knocking another. Newsflash, it never works. It's entertaining to watch as jealous people can't let go... funny actually.
LMAO. No. I was a poster who said Stanford wasn’t a top 15 team when they were ranked in the beginning of the season. Never said anything about the school or anything else for that matter. First the nuts like yourself came out and said they were a top lax team. Then after Stanford lost a few you changed the narrative to what you just posted in your last ridiculous comment about inferiority.

Original statement. Stanford has no business being ranked in the top 25.

I guess the season showed I was accurate. I don’t give a F about any schools. My daughter is in 8th grade. But I do watch lax. And I’m this instance, I was right, and the Stanford homers were wrong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

First off its both teams first games of the season . Second your ignorance of your top 10 teams is obvious. Lets see how much better the top teams did than the game you watched, UNC had 9 turnovers, BC had 17, cuse 11, NW 16, UVA 8, stanford 14. Give it a rest on knocking teams if you obviously have no clue.

If this guy is still around. You were saying? LMAO

All the Stanford supporters went “cricket, cricket” in the middle of the season. But I’m the beginning they were out in full force. My favorite was the guy who said that people were obsessed with Stanford because they didn’t accept their daughters into the school. I mean they had the audacity to say Stanford wasn’t a top 15 team. Wait, I think they said they weren’t a Top 25 team.

You are the one bringing up Stanford, I would guess that it was you or another Stanford hatter who brought them up early in the season... I guess just another person with an inferiority complex trying to indirectly elevate their daughters school / lacrosse program by knocking another. Newsflash, it never works. It's entertaining to watch as jealous people can't let go... funny actually.


Yes, and keep in mind that some girls use lacrosse to get into the best possible schools that can to change their lives. Playing for the top lax program isn’t necessarily a top priority for everyone. Agree that Stanford had a tough year, but they are still a good program, and rough years happen to many programs. They have some good incoming recruits and grad transfers who can hopefully help turn things around. Amazing how preoccupied people are with how Stanford is doing!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

First off its both teams first games of the season . Second your ignorance of your top 10 teams is obvious. Lets see how much better the top teams did than the game you watched, UNC had 9 turnovers, BC had 17, cuse 11, NW 16, UVA 8, stanford 14. Give it a rest on knocking teams if you obviously have no clue.

If this guy is still around. You were saying? LMAO

All the Stanford supporters went “cricket, cricket” in the middle of the season. But I’m the beginning they were out in full force. My favorite was the guy who said that people were obsessed with Stanford because they didn’t accept their daughters into the school. I mean they had the audacity to say Stanford wasn’t a top 15 team. Wait, I think they said they weren’t a Top 25 team.

You are the one bringing up Stanford, I would guess that it was you or another Stanford hatter who brought them up early in the season... I guess just another person with an inferiority complex trying to indirectly elevate their daughters school / lacrosse program by knocking another. Newsflash, it never works. It's entertaining to watch as jealous people can't let go... funny actually.


Yes, and keep in mind that some girls use lacrosse to get into the best possible schools that can to change their lives. Playing for the top lax program isn’t necessarily a top priority for everyone. Agree that Stanford had a tough year, but they are still a good program, and rough years happen to many programs. They have some good incoming recruits and grad transfers who can hopefully help turn things around. Amazing how preoccupied people are with how Stanford is doing!

Amazing how parents of kids who go to Stanford [Censored] at reading comprehension.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

I watched this game with my daughter and couldn’t believe how sloppy both teams are. They are ranked 13 and 14? They were throwing the ball five feet over players heads for a ten foot pass. Missing wide open shots in front. Either there is a huuuuuggggeee drop off in play once you get out of the top 10 or these teams are just overrated. Both of them.

First off its both teams first games of the season . Second your ignorance of your top 10 teams is obvious. Lets see how much better the top teams did than the game you watched, UNC had 9 turnovers, BC had 17, cuse 11, NW 16, UVA 8, stanford 14. Give it a rest on knocking teams if you obviously have no clue.

If this guy is still around. You were saying? LMAO

All the Stanford supporters went “cricket, cricket” in the middle of the season. But I’m the beginning they were out in full force. My favorite was the guy who said that people were obsessed with Stanford because they didn’t accept their daughters into the school. I mean they had the audacity to say Stanford wasn’t a top 15 team. Wait, I think they said they weren’t a Top 25 team.

You are the one bringing up Stanford, I would guess that it was you or another Stanford hatter who brought them up early in the season... I guess just another person with an inferiority complex trying to indirectly elevate their daughters school / lacrosse program by knocking another. Newsflash, it never works. It's entertaining to watch as jealous people can't let go... funny actually.


Yes, and keep in mind that some girls use lacrosse to get into the best possible schools that can to change their lives. Playing for the top lax program isn’t necessarily a top priority for everyone. Agree that Stanford had a tough year, but they are still a good program, and rough years happen to many programs. They have some good incoming recruits and grad transfers who can hopefully help turn things around. Amazing how preoccupied people are with how Stanford is doing!

Why are Stanford people so but hurt over that post?He/she is right. They were ranked 13th to start the season. He/she said they didn’t belong there. Stanford parents came on and attacked the post saying he was wrong. Making it about scholastics where nowhere in any post did they say anything about the school. And now they are taking a victory lap. He was right. They didn’t belong to be ranked.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

Potentially game saving defensive play. BC “D” showed up today. Will need better ”O” in the final.

She had to make that check because she got blown by on the dodge which happens quite frequently.
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Originally Posted by baldbear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

Potentially game saving defensive play. BC “D” showed up today. Will need better ”O” in the final.

She had to make that check because she got blown by on the dodge which happens quite frequently.

Yes it did. She also probably got lucky with the stick check. But.....hit a homer in the bottom of the ninth to put your team into the World Series, no one really cares what happened before that. Detesters gonna detest
The majority of attacks posted on BOTC stem from animosity of some sort. Whether directed at an individual player or a particular college program it is in most cases personal to the originator. Some parents, just can not accept when a player from their area i.e. "Long Island", or their Club, HS or College Program program are recognized as being stronger than their daughter or their daughters "Team" (College, Club or HS).

I don't recall many, if any, topics being started by chest pounders supporting and bragging about individual players or programs. I have seen many posts responding to attacks on individual players and programs.

The bottom line is that there are parents out there who try to knock players, programs, schools etc... in an effort to elevate their daughter, their daughters program, their daughters school etc...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The majority of attacks posted on BOTC stem from animosity of some sort. Whether directed at an individual player or a particular college program it is in most cases personal to the originator. Some parents, just can not accept when a player from their area i.e. "Long Island", or their Club, HS or College Program program are recognized as being stronger than their daughter or their daughters "Team" (College, Club or HS).

I don't recall many, if any, topics being started by chest pounders supporting and bragging about individual players or programs. I have seen many posts responding to attacks on individual players and programs.

The bottom line is that there are parents out there who try to knock players, programs, schools etc... in an effort to elevate their daughter, their daughters program, their daughters school etc...

Nonsense. The majority of attacks stem from its an anonymous site. Put your name and where your daughter plays on your posts and you won’t have none of it. Come on. A post saying Stanford shouldn’t be ranked had people on both sides coming out with pitchforks. That wasn’t a post of jealousy or animonsity. That was factual.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The majority of attacks posted on BOTC stem from animosity of some sort. Whether directed at an individual player or a particular college program it is in most cases personal to the originator. Some parents, just can not accept when a player from their area i.e. "Long Island", or their Club, HS or College Program program are recognized as being stronger than their daughter or their daughters "Team" (College, Club or HS).

I don't recall many, if any, topics being started by chest pounders supporting and bragging about individual players or programs. I have seen many posts responding to attacks on individual players and programs.

The bottom line is that there are parents out there who try to knock players, programs, schools etc... in an effort to elevate their daughter, their daughters program, their daughters school etc...

Nonsense. The majority of attacks stem from its an anonymous site. Put your name and where your daughter plays on your posts and you won’t have none of it. Come on. A post saying Stanford shouldn’t be ranked had people on both sides coming out with pitchforks. That wasn’t a post of jealousy or animonsity. That was factual.

There you go again with Stanford, what is the obsession? The post you are responding to did not mention Stanford. People come on this site and anonymously go on the attack and the majority of the time it is done because some parents can not take it when others receive more attention than their daughter.

As for Stanford, they are a very good program. Below is cut & paste from another post.

" Please tell us which programs in your opinion does Stanford get more recognition than. We all know the usual suspects that finish the year ranked in the Top 20 most years:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Penn
James Madison
Notre Dame
Loyola
Denver
USC
Duke
Hopkins

Besides the above, what programs is Stanford "overrated" above? Nobody said Stanford is a Top 5 or Top 10 or even Top 15 Program. "
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The majority of attacks posted on BOTC stem from animosity of some sort. Whether directed at an individual player or a particular college program it is in most cases personal to the originator. Some parents, just can not accept when a player from their area i.e. "Long Island", or their Club, HS or College Program program are recognized as being stronger than their daughter or their daughters "Team" (College, Club or HS).

I don't recall many, if any, topics being started by chest pounders supporting and bragging about individual players or programs. I have seen many posts responding to attacks on individual players and programs.

The bottom line is that there are parents out there who try to knock players, programs, schools etc... in an effort to elevate their daughter, their daughters program, their daughters school etc...

Nonsense. The majority of attacks stem from its an anonymous site. Put your name and where your daughter plays on your posts and you won’t have none of it. Come on. A post saying Stanford shouldn’t be ranked had people on both sides coming out with pitchforks. That wasn’t a post of jealousy or animonsity. That was factual.


Agree! Thr problem is thr keyboard cowboys hiding behind anonymity! I’d you had to show your name and club affiliation there would be crickets. Unfortunately, this site can be toxic. You can’t have any opinion or they’ll burn you at the stake. It’s even at the younger ages….read the 2030, 2031 nonsense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The majority of attacks posted on BOTC stem from animosity of some sort. Whether directed at an individual player or a particular college program it is in most cases personal to the originator. Some parents, just can not accept when a player from their area i.e. "Long Island", or their Club, HS or College Program program are recognized as being stronger than their daughter or their daughters "Team" (College, Club or HS).

I don't recall many, if any, topics being started by chest pounders supporting and bragging about individual players or programs. I have seen many posts responding to attacks on individual players and programs.

The bottom line is that there are parents out there who try to knock players, programs, schools etc... in an effort to elevate their daughter, their daughters program, their daughters school etc...

Nonsense. The majority of attacks stem from its an anonymous site. Put your name and where your daughter plays on your posts and you won’t have none of it. Come on. A post saying Stanford shouldn’t be ranked had people on both sides coming out with pitchforks. That wasn’t a post of jealousy or animonsity. That was factual.

There you go again with Stanford, what is the obsession? The post you are responding to did not mention Stanford. People come on this site and anonymously go on the attack and the majority of the time it is done because some parents can not take it when others receive more attention than their daughter.

As for Stanford, they are a very good program. Below is cut & paste from another post.

" Please tell us which programs in your opinion does Stanford get more recognition than. We all know the usual suspects that finish the year ranked in the Top 20 most years:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Penn
James Madison
Notre Dame
Loyola
Denver
USC
Duke
Hopkins

Besides the above, what programs is Stanford "overrated" above? Nobody said Stanford is a Top 5 or Top 10 or even Top 15 Program. "

Stanford is on par with Duke, Hopkins, Penn, Princeton,Yale, USC. Stanford did not have a good year, but didn’t they beat Albany who beat Virginia? Why all the scrutiny and over analyzing? Seems like someone’s daughter wasn’t recruited there and can’t let it go. Very strange
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The majority of attacks posted on BOTC stem from animosity of some sort. Whether directed at an individual player or a particular college program it is in most cases personal to the originator. Some parents, just can not accept when a player from their area i.e. "Long Island", or their Club, HS or College Program program are recognized as being stronger than their daughter or their daughters "Team" (College, Club or HS).

I don't recall many, if any, topics being started by chest pounders supporting and bragging about individual players or programs. I have seen many posts responding to attacks on individual players and programs.

The bottom line is that there are parents out there who try to knock players, programs, schools etc... in an effort to elevate their daughter, their daughters program, their daughters school etc...

Nonsense. The majority of attacks stem from its an anonymous site. Put your name and where your daughter plays on your posts and you won’t have none of it. Come on. A post saying Stanford shouldn’t be ranked had people on both sides coming out with pitchforks. That wasn’t a post of jealousy or animonsity. That was factual.

There you go again with Stanford, what is the obsession? The post you are responding to did not mention Stanford. People come on this site and anonymously go on the attack and the majority of the time it is done because some parents can not take it when others receive more attention than their daughter.

As for Stanford, they are a very good program. Below is cut & paste from another post.

" Please tell us which programs in your opinion does Stanford get more recognition than. We all know the usual suspects that finish the year ranked in the Top 20 most years:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Penn
James Madison
Notre Dame
Loyola
Denver
USC
Duke
Hopkins

Besides the above, what programs is Stanford "overrated" above? Nobody said Stanford is a Top 5 or Top 10 or even Top 15 Program. "

This will be my last response to you. Ask your wife to read the posts for you and she will explain it to you. Once again, for the tenth time, in the beginning of the season. You dolt
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The majority of attacks posted on BOTC stem from animosity of some sort. Whether directed at an individual player or a particular college program it is in most cases personal to the originator. Some parents, just can not accept when a player from their area i.e. "Long Island", or their Club, HS or College Program program are recognized as being stronger than their daughter or their daughters "Team" (College, Club or HS).

I don't recall many, if any, topics being started by chest pounders supporting and bragging about individual players or programs. I have seen many posts responding to attacks on individual players and programs.

The bottom line is that there are parents out there who try to knock players, programs, schools etc... in an effort to elevate their daughter, their daughters program, their daughters school etc...

Nonsense. The majority of attacks stem from its an anonymous site. Put your name and where your daughter plays on your posts and you won’t have none of it. Come on. A post saying Stanford shouldn’t be ranked had people on both sides coming out with pitchforks. That wasn’t a post of jealousy or animonsity. That was factual.

There you go again with Stanford, what is the obsession? The post you are responding to did not mention Stanford. People come on this site and anonymously go on the attack and the majority of the time it is done because some parents can not take it when others receive more attention than their daughter.

As for Stanford, they are a very good program. Below is cut & paste from another post.

" Please tell us which programs in your opinion does Stanford get more recognition than. We all know the usual suspects that finish the year ranked in the Top 20 most years:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Florida
Virginia
Penn
James Madison
Notre Dame
Loyola
Denver
USC
Duke
Hopkins

Besides the above, what programs is Stanford "overrated" above? Nobody said Stanford is a Top 5 or Top 10 or even Top 15 Program. "

Stanford is on par with Duke, Hopkins, Penn, Princeton,Yale, USC. Stanford did not have a good year, but didn’t they beat Albany who beat Virginia? Why all the scrutiny and over analyzing? Seems like someone’s daughter wasn’t recruited there and can’t let it go. Very strange

These moments are trying. For the second time my daughter is in 8th grade. And no she will not make it to Stanford, BC Michigan, Cornell, Lehigh, Bucknell, or USC. My son also won’t make the Mets. So if I made a statement and said the Mets were supremely overrated this year picked for the World series. am I saying that because my son wasn’t invited to training camp. You guys are so hurt from a statement that had zero to do with Stanford being a good program the last years. Beginning of the year a statement was made they aren’t a top 15 team. You guys with girls playing at Stanford went nuts. My kid can’t make Harvard either but their lax wasn’t great this year either. Come on Harvaders. Let’s hear how I’m just made because my daughter didn’t make it there.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BElle Smith with the defensive save. Bad break for Cuse. They say she’s not a good defensive middie here on BOTC.

Potentially game saving defensive play. BC “D” showed up today. Will need better ”O” in the final.

She had to make that check because she got blown by on the dodge which happens quite frequently.

Yes it did. She also probably got lucky with the stick check. But.....hit a homer in the bottom of the ninth to put your team into the World Series, no one really cares what happened before that. Detesters gonna detest

Very true - she made the game saving play. She is very good at the trail check. And that is because she constantly gets blown by on dodges. This is a point when evaluating top midfielders. Its not just about scoring. Defense is a huge part of it. I admit that I think BS gets too many props as an overall middie. An offensive middie yes, she has great vision and distributes the ball well.
Has anyone heard about all the rule changes being voted on by the NCAA in the next few weeks. How likely is it that these rules will be adopted. I minute green cards for flopping, 1m green card for cross check and playing 6v6 instead of 7v7. This would really hurt zone playing teams like Stony Brook.
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Has anyone heard about all the rule changes being voted on by the NCAA in the next few weeks. How likely is it that these rules will be adopted. I minute green cards for flopping, 1m green card for cross check and playing 6v6 instead of 7v7. This would really hurt zone playing teams like Stony Brook.

Love the flopping rule. detest 6v6. Bald Bear. Anyway someone at BOTC gets a better CAPTCHA. Half the time I can’t tell what the letter is. Capital or not?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone heard about all the rule changes being voted on by the NCAA in the next few weeks. How likely is it that these rules will be adopted. I minute green cards for flopping, 1m green card for cross check and playing 6v6 instead of 7v7. This would really hurt zone playing teams like Stony Brook.

You would think with Levy spearheading the changes they are likely to be adopted. Eliminating free position shots would be great. When is the vote?
July 19th. Jenny Levy is leading the charge but she is part if a rules committee and that collective group is recommending the changes. Some very significant changes that will hurt teams like SB and help fast teams like UNC..They claim many of the changes are meant to make the game less physical and safer.
I'm not buying the claims. How do we now handle going from 12 scholarships to 11? Seems like a nightmare situation to me.
Wow. Chepenik went from Clemson to USF. 😳
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I'm not buying the claims. How do we now handle going from 12 scholarships to 11? Seems like a nightmare situation to me.
Who said scholarships would change?
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Wow. Chepenik went from Clemson to USF. 😳
She is from Florida, so maybe wanted to be closer to home? Interesting how she's going from one inaugural season (Clemson) to another (USF).
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. Chepenik went from Clemson to USF. 😳
She is from Florida, so maybe wanted to be closer to home? Interesting how she's going from one inaugural season (Clemson) to another (USF).

She was originally committed to Oregon, decommitted to go to Clemson, then moves to SF. I'm hopeful she finds what she's looking for at SF!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone heard about all the rule changes being voted on by the NCAA in the next few weeks. How likely is it that these rules will be adopted. I minute green cards for flopping, 1m green card for cross check and playing 6v6 instead of 7v7. This would really hurt zone playing teams like Stony Brook.

Love the flopping rule. detest 6v6. Bald Bear. Anyway someone at BOTC gets a better CAPTCHA. Half the time I can’t tell what the letter is. Capital or not?

I think if you register you avoid CAPTCHA. I agree it can be hard to read. Not my department though.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. Chepenik went from Clemson to USF. 😳
She is from Florida, so maybe wanted to be closer to home? Interesting how she's going from one inaugural season (Clemson) to another (USF).

She was originally committed to Oregon, decommitted to go to Clemson, then moves to SF. I'm hopeful she finds what she's looking for at SF!

Daddy is running that show.
Sounds like the battle is heating up on rule changes.

Maybe US lacrosse should look at what they have approved from a stick and pocket perspective from suppliers. Have you seen a ref do a stick check after a goal. What a joke. Flex mesh because it has so much stretch in it when force applied(cradling) has changed the game. Oh them US lacrosse removes that rule.

Heck there was one stick approved by “someone”
Or an organization not watching out for best interest of game that had a hook edge to it they final deemed illegal.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.


People still on this Stanford thing. And always comes back to “it’s just jealousy.” But yet every poster glosses over the main point of the post. Just like it’s a Jedi mind trick and they can’t read the sentence and go right to jealousy. I’ll try it in caps. ALL THAT STARTED THIS WAS THE OOSTER SAID THE RATING OF STANFORD AT 13 WAS NONSENSE. AND GUESS WHAT, HE WAS RIGHT. Didn’t talk about the school. Didn’t mention other schools. All he said was Stanford was rated too high. And then they came out with pitchforks.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.


People still on this Stanford thing. And always comes back to “it’s just jealousy.” But yet every poster glosses over the main point of the post. Just like it’s a Jedi mind trick and they can’t read the sentence and go right to jealousy. I’ll try it in caps. ALL THAT STARTED THIS WAS THE OOSTER SAID THE RATING OF STANFORD AT 13 WAS NONSENSE. AND GUESS WHAT, HE WAS RIGHT. Didn’t talk about the school. Didn’t mention other schools. All he said was Stanford was rated too high. And then they came out with pitchforks.

And here you are bringing up Stanford again... How old is the post that you are responding to? Why are you even posting about Stanford?

I notice that you did not respond the the question asked at the end of the post that you are responding to, so here it is again:

"So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?"
Am I wrong in thinking that the rule changes that are spearheaded by Jenny Levy specifically benefit UNC and their style of play. They have never played a zone defense and that will now be way more difficult etc and even down to I think allowing metal cleats ( I could be wrong on the cleats but that is how it read). I think the comments by Amonte Hiller were very interesting.
Nothing wrong with teams using zone defenses, it does attempt to clog the middle. Try extending the arc for a year or 2 out to 9 or 10 meters. That will open up the space without changing the number of players on the field. An 8 meter going to 9 meter gives the goalies a chance to stop today's rocket shots. could ague it's safer at 9 meters.
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Am I wrong in thinking that the rule changes that are spearheaded by Jenny Levy specifically benefit UNC and their style of play. They have never played a zone defense and that will now be way more difficult etc and even down to I think allowing metal cleats ( I could be wrong on the cleats but that is how it read). I think the comments by Amonte Hiller were very interesting.

I haven’t seen it what did Amonte Hiller have to say?
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.


People still on this Stanford thing. And always comes back to “it’s just jealousy.” But yet every poster glosses over the main point of the post. Just like it’s a Jedi mind trick and they can’t read the sentence and go right to jealousy. I’ll try it in caps. ALL THAT STARTED THIS WAS THE OOSTER SAID THE RATING OF STANFORD AT 13 WAS NONSENSE. AND GUESS WHAT, HE WAS RIGHT. Didn’t talk about the school. Didn’t mention other schools. All he said was Stanford was rated too high. And then they came out with pitchforks.

And here you are bringing up Stanford again... How old is the post that you are responding to? Why are you even posting about Stanford?

I notice that you did not respond the the question asked at the end of the post that you are responding to, so here it is again:

"So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?"

It wasn't answered because reading comprehension isn't your strong point. No one ever said Stanford was terrible. No one compared Stanford with the other 90 teams . For the hundredth time, the only thing that was said, was they shouldn't be ranked 15th. Which they should not have been and that has been proven.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.


People still on this Stanford thing. And always comes back to “it’s just jealousy.” But yet every poster glosses over the main point of the post. Just like it’s a Jedi mind trick and they can’t read the sentence and go right to jealousy. I’ll try it in caps. ALL THAT STARTED THIS WAS THE OOSTER SAID THE RATING OF STANFORD AT 13 WAS NONSENSE. AND GUESS WHAT, HE WAS RIGHT. Didn’t talk about the school. Didn’t mention other schools. All he said was Stanford was rated too high. And then they came out with pitchforks.

And here you are bringing up Stanford again... How old is the post that you are responding to? Why are you even posting about Stanford?

I notice that you did not respond the the question asked at the end of the post that you are responding to, so here it is again:

"So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?"

It wasn't answered because reading comprehension isn't your strong point. No one ever said Stanford was terrible. No one compared Stanford with the other 90 teams . For the hundredth time, the only thing that was said, was they shouldn't be ranked 15th. Which they should not have been and that has been proven.

Why are you still fixated on last years pre season rankings?? Only thing that now matters about last year is that Northwestern blew threw all the other pretenders. New year with new players coming!
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.


People still on this Stanford thing. And always comes back to “it’s just jealousy.” But yet every poster glosses over the main point of the post. Just like it’s a Jedi mind trick and they can’t read the sentence and go right to jealousy. I’ll try it in caps. ALL THAT STARTED THIS WAS THE OOSTER SAID THE RATING OF STANFORD AT 13 WAS NONSENSE. AND GUESS WHAT, HE WAS RIGHT. Didn’t talk about the school. Didn’t mention other schools. All he said was Stanford was rated too high. And then they came out with pitchforks.

And here you are bringing up Stanford again... How old is the post that you are responding to? Why are you even posting about Stanford?

I notice that you did not respond the the question asked at the end of the post that you are responding to, so here it is again:

"So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?"

It wasn't answered because reading comprehension isn't your strong point. No one ever said Stanford was terrible. No one compared Stanford with the other 90 teams . For the hundredth time, the only thing that was said, was they shouldn't be ranked 15th. Which they should not have been and that has been proven.

Why are you still fixated on last years pre season rankings?? Only thing that now matters about last year is that Northwestern blew threw all the other pretenders. New year with new players coming!

LMAO
Let it go Stanford guy. Some people can’t just admit when they were wrong.
About what? What did your daughter do? Pretty sure it wasn’t much. Please tell, and while you’re at it let me know what top 3 school she will be graduating from, and the amazing job she’s lined up for. You do realize that in the real world, nobody cares about lacrosse but the parents.
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About what? What did your daughter do? Pretty sure it wasn’t much. Please tell, and while you’re at it let me know what top 3 school she will be graduating from, and the amazing job she’s lined up for. You do realize that in the real world, nobody cares about lacrosse but the parents.

Keep it going then. You look like the typical helicopter parent. Btw. They shouldn’t have been ranked top 15.
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About what? What did your daughter do? Pretty sure it wasn’t much. Please tell, and while you’re at it let me know what top 3 school she will be graduating from, and the amazing job she’s lined up for. You do realize that in the real world, nobody cares about lacrosse but the parents.

Dude. Relax. I think we all know where my daughter plays or at least some who think she plays. They were ranked 2 before the season and ended up in the top 20. Don’t get your undies in a bunch. No one is knocking your daughter. He’s saying they aren’t a top 20 team last year.
Considering the fact that more than half the teams ranked in preseason Top 20 finished the season ranked lower than their preseason ranking it seems strange that someone repeatedly needs to tell everyone that he correctly pointed out that Stanford's preseason rank was too high. Odd behavior to say the least.
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.


People still on this Stanford thing. And always comes back to “it’s just jealousy.” But yet every poster glosses over the main point of the post. Just like it’s a Jedi mind trick and they can’t read the sentence and go right to jealousy. I’ll try it in caps. ALL THAT STARTED THIS WAS THE OOSTER SAID THE RATING OF STANFORD AT 13 WAS NONSENSE. AND GUESS WHAT, HE WAS RIGHT. Didn’t talk about the school. Didn’t mention other schools. All he said was Stanford was rated too high. And then they came out with pitchforks.

And here you are bringing up Stanford again... How old is the post that you are responding to? Why are you even posting about Stanford?

I notice that you did not respond the the question asked at the end of the post that you are responding to, so here it is again:

"So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?"

It wasn't answered because reading comprehension isn't your strong point. No one ever said Stanford was terrible. No one compared Stanford with the other 90 teams . For the hundredth time, the only thing that was said, was they shouldn't be ranked 15th. Which they should not have been and that has been proven.

Why are you still fixated on last years pre season rankings?? Only thing that now matters about last year is that Northwestern blew threw all the other pretenders. New year with new players coming!
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Can we finally put the Stanford is a good team debate to rest, they lost to a lower rated acc team at home, and not for the goalies great game it would have been running clock by the 3rd Q.

Please explain to the rest of us your obsession with Stanford. Did Stanford not recruit your daughter? Did your daughter not have the grades for Stanford? Did your daughter not receive the recognition that the Stanford commits and or players receive? Was your daughters team ranked below Stanford? Just curious what would cause someone to come on here and try to knock Stanford out of the blue.

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Overall, Stanford is probably a better "program" than 100 of the 120 or so current Division 1 women's lacrosse programs.

Smart people have been leveraging lacrosse to get into the best academic school possible for many years, lacrosse is simply a hammerhead not the end all be all. The players at Stanford have already "Won", what happens on the field is not all that important.

We will not hold our breath waiting for your response, we all know the reasons for your animosity.


I think the reason for some animosity is generated because you constantly come on here bragging about Stanford. It all started when someone "dared " to say Stanford was ranked too high .You came back with some bunch of non sense. There definitely seems to be a bias by those who rank the teams trying to show that the game has spread .The results this pass weekend clearly indicate it.

Have not noticed anyone "constantly bragging about Stanford". Stanford lost to Virginia, last time I checked Virginia is one of the 10 best programs out there so not the end of the world.

I could care less about Stanford, I didn't go there, none of my kids go there or plan to go there and my kids have never played against Stanford but there is no denying that it is a great school with a very good women's lacrosse program.

As usual, the animus is based on jealousy, bitterness, envy or a feeling of inferiority.

Great school, good program. Not winning the National Championship anytime soon but trying to knock them is just foolish. As the previous post pointed out, Stanford is one of the Top 20 or so programs and with the exception of the usual suspects you would be hard pressed to find more than 20-25 programs that consistently outperform The Cardinal.

So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?

Just my guess but I do not believe the players or the parents of the players who choose Stanford put lacrosse above academics.


People still on this Stanford thing. And always comes back to “it’s just jealousy.” But yet every poster glosses over the main point of the post. Just like it’s a Jedi mind trick and they can’t read the sentence and go right to jealousy. I’ll try it in caps. ALL THAT STARTED THIS WAS THE OOSTER SAID THE RATING OF STANFORD AT 13 WAS NONSENSE. AND GUESS WHAT, HE WAS RIGHT. Didn’t talk about the school. Didn’t mention other schools. All he said was Stanford was rated too high. And then they came out with pitchforks.

And here you are bringing up Stanford again... How old is the post that you are responding to? Why are you even posting about Stanford?

I notice that you did not respond the the question asked at the end of the post that you are responding to, so here it is again:

"So if Stanford is so terrible, what does that say about the 90-100 programs in DI?"

It wasn't answered because reading comprehension isn't your strong point. No one ever said Stanford was terrible. No one compared Stanford with the other 90 teams . For the hundredth time, the only thing that was said, was they shouldn't be ranked 15th. Which they should not have been and that has been proven.

Why are you still fixated on last years pre season rankings?? Only thing that now matters about last year is that Northwestern blew threw all the other pretenders. New year with new players coming!

…. “ And here you are bringing up Stanford again... How old is the post that you are responding to? Why are you even posting about Stanford? ”……

^^^^^ What he said.^^^^^
quote=Not_Belles_Mommy]
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About what? What did your daughter do? Pretty sure it wasn’t much. Please tell, and while you’re at it let me know what top 3 school she will be graduating from, and the amazing job she’s lined up for. You do realize that in the real world, nobody cares about lacrosse but the parents.

Dude. Relax. I think we all know where my daughter plays or at least some who think she plays. They were ranked 2 before the season and ended up in the top 20. Don’t get your undies in a bunch. No one is knocking your daughter. He’s saying they aren’t a top 20 team last year.[/quote]

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About what? What did your daughter do? Pretty sure it wasn’t much. Please tell, and while you’re at it let me know what top 3 school she will be graduating from, and the amazing job she’s lined up for. You do realize that in the real world, nobody cares about lacrosse but the parents.

Dude. Relax. I think we all know where my daughter plays or at least some who think she plays. They were ranked 2 before the season and ended up in the top 20. Don’t get your undies in a bunch. No one is knocking your daughter. He’s saying they aren’t a top 20 team last year.

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Lol, still talking about last year. Get a life.
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About what? What did your daughter do? Pretty sure it wasn’t much. Please tell, and while you’re at it let me know what top 3 school she will be graduating from, and the amazing job she’s lined up for. You do realize that in the real world, nobody cares about lacrosse but the parents.

Dude. Relax. I think we all know where my daughter plays or at least some who think she plays. They were ranked 2 before the season and ended up in the top 20. Don’t get your undies in a bunch. No one is knocking your daughter. He’s saying they aren’t a top 20 team last year.

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Lol, still talking about last year. Get a life.[/quote]

Talking about three months ago. Get a life says the guy who keeps posting on a forum because someone thinks his daughters team wasn’t top 15. 🤦🏻‍♂️
Gotta love the 🚁 👩 on this site.
UNC is going to be interesting next year , lots of attackers that play the same position essentially . Surprised at the Stanford transfer but my guess her and her sister red shirt for a year.
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UNC is going to be interesting next year , lots of attackers that play the same position essentially . Surprised at the Stanford transfer but my guess her and her sister red shirt for a year.

Why would anyone make Chloe Humphrey sit out a year? Did you see her play? She will be a huge impact player from the start. Her sister will play too because she is about to graduate. UNC has the luxury of an abundance of young talent. But you don't sit two stars.
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UNC is going to be interesting next year , lots of attackers that play the same position essentially . Surprised at the Stanford transfer but my guess her and her sister red shirt for a year.

Silly comment. The Humphrey sisters will both be full time starters on UNC for the next two years. The Stanford attack has 2 years of eligibility. The other UNC attackers will have to scrap for play time.
The whole “redshirting” because you don’t play needs to go-makes no sense in my opinion. UNC has great talent on attack, so yes it’ll be interesting to see who it affects with her coming in. Don’t see her “sitting” on the bench.
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UNC is going to be interesting next year , lots of attackers that play the same position essentially . Surprised at the Stanford transfer but my guess her and her sister red shirt for a year.

Silly comment. The Humphrey sisters will both be full time starters on UNC for the next two years. The Stanford attack has 2 years of eligibility. The other UNC attackers will have to scrap for play time.

So you sit Casey, Wurzburger or Godine (the leading scorers) so both Humphrey girls can start at attack? I think the Stanford transfer either moves to midfield (where UNC is always deep) or is the sub.
Both freshmen had a big year in 2023, Godine and White. UNC is loaded at attack.
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UNC is going to be interesting next year , lots of attackers that play the same position essentially . Surprised at the Stanford transfer but my guess her and her sister red shirt for a year.

Silly comment. The Humphrey sisters will both be full time starters on UNC for the next two years. The Stanford attack has 2 years of eligibility. The other UNC attackers will have to scrap for play time.

So you sit Casey, Wurzburger or Godine (the leading scorers) so both Humphrey girls can start at attack? I think the Stanford transfer either moves to midfield (where UNC is always deep) or is the sub.

Lol on the midfield comment. Wuzberger and Godine will play high attack. Humphrey isn’t transferring to be a sub she will be playing along side her sister.
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UNC is going to be interesting next year , lots of attackers that play the same position essentially . Surprised at the Stanford transfer but my guess her and her sister red shirt for a year.

Silly comment. The Humphrey sisters will both be full time starters on UNC for the next two years. The Stanford attack has 2 years of eligibility. The other UNC attackers will have to scrap for play time.

So you sit Casey, Wurzburger or Godine (the leading scorers) so both Humphrey girls can start at attack? I think the Stanford transfer either moves to midfield (where UNC is always deep) or is the sub.

Lol on the midfield comment. Wuzberger and Godine will play high attack. Humphrey isn’t transferring to be a sub she will be playing along side her sister.
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Very easy to play with more than 4 attackers. The 5th can come in on a string. This assumes they dont adopt the proposed 6v6 change next month.
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Very easy to play with more than 4 attackers. The 5th can come in on a string. This assumes they dont adopt the proposed 6v6 change next month.

So which of the returning top 4 scorers from last years team are going to sit the bench for the sisters and if its 6v6 which two of the top 4 scorers will be sitting. The transfer already took her red shirt year so will be interesting. That said UNC has had pack 12 super stars transfer in with more accolades than Humphrey and not play as much as they had hoped , the ACC and UNC in particular are a different animal. Someone is not going to get the playing time they had hoped for unless UNC gets 1 or 2 of them to redshirt and takes Wurzburgers spot when she leaves.
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Very easy to play with more than 4 attackers. The 5th can come in on a string. This assumes they dont adopt the proposed 6v6 change next month.

So which of the returning top 4 scorers from last years team are going to sit the bench for the sisters and if its 6v6 which two of the top 4 scorers will be sitting. The transfer already took her red shirt year so will be interesting. That said UNC has had pack 12 super stars transfer in with more accolades than Humphrey and not play as much as they had hoped , the ACC and UNC in particular are a different animal. Someone is not going to get the playing time they had hoped for unless UNC gets 1 or 2 of them to redshirt and takes Wurzburgers spot when she leaves.

Levy will have to figure that out she's probably still upset that her top scorers put 4 goals in vs Denver. When you stockpile your team you will have unhappy girls sitting on the bench.
Why was the post about the injured Yale player removed? It was a serious question it did not violate the "so called rules' of posting on this forum. I was hoping to get a discussion going on the possible rule changes and if this mother's petition and suggested rule changes will have any influence with the NCAA. So you are choosing what to post and not to post. Which I think to some extent is great. Maybe you should pay more attention over on the MD forum where coaches and players names are being posted and talked about in a negative manner daily. Pretty sure the posting of minors names and making derogatroy remarks does in fact violate your posting rules.
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Why was the post about the injured Yale player removed? It was a serious question it did not violate the "so called rules' of posting on this forum. I was hoping to get a discussion going on the possible rule changes and if this mother's petition and suggested rule changes will have any influence with the NCAA. So you are choosing what to post and not to post. Which I think to some extent is great. Maybe you should pay more attention over on the MD forum where coaches and players names are being posted and talked about in a negative manner daily. Pretty sure the posting of minors names and making derogatroy remarks does in fact violate your posting rules.
I was wondering the same thing!! It's strange that it would be removed but yet so many other items are "allowed"?
Can someone explain the US u20 tryouts…they got invited, but did they apply? How are they chosen? How did they add 2 more girls right before tryouts?
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Can someone explain the US u20 tryouts…they got invited, but did they apply? How are they chosen? How did they add 2 more girls right before tryouts?

There was an application process. But you had to be invited. Yes strange that 2 girls were added at last minute. I do know of at least 2 that are not attending due to injuries. Maybe they’re replacements? Or maybe the same old political shenanigans? Lots of very talented girls are participating, but I’m also pretty sure about half the team is already chosen no matter how they actually perform at the tryout
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Can someone explain the US u20 tryouts…they got invited, but did they apply? How are they chosen? How did they add 2 more girls right before tryouts?

There was an application process. But you had to be invited. Yes strange that 2 girls were added at last minute. I do know of at least 2 that are not attending due to injuries. Maybe they’re replacements? Or maybe the same old political shenanigans? Lots of very talented girls are participating, but I’m also pretty sure about half the team is already chosen no matter how they actually perform at the tryout
Thank you. I also thought maybe the 2 added were due to others not being able to attend. Politics always plays a role (unfortunately). Kind of surprised though NOT to see some names that were not invited - particularly the ones that are already playing D1.
They all had to apply. And then invites go out based on the applications
Anyone was allowed to apply. Many aren’t on the list because the either didn’t want to do it or their summer plans didn’t allow them to attend the tryouts.
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Can someone explain the US u20 tryouts…they got invited, but did they apply? How are they chosen? How did they add 2 more girls right before tryouts?

There was an application process. But you had to be invited. Yes strange that 2 girls were added at last minute. I do know of at least 2 that are not attending due to injuries. Maybe they’re replacements? Or maybe the same old political shenanigans? Lots of very talented girls are participating, but I’m also pretty sure about half the team is already chosen no matter how they actually perform at the tryout
Thank you. I also thought maybe the 2 added were due to others not being able to attend. Politics always plays a role (unfortunately). Kind of surprised though NOT to see some names that were not invited - particularly the ones that are already playing D1.

If you are referring to some 2022s who had successful freshman performances on top teams this year, some might be too old. There is a September 1 cutoff, so any 2022s who are old enough to have been 2021s are not eligible. It’s also possible they weren’t interested and didn’t apply. I get the appeal playing for Team USA but seems like a lot of time and money to play mostly inferior competition.
Wow, saw the U20 roster. What a joke. Many of course very deserving, but you’re telling me 7/9 Northwestern girls?? Please stop. I was there and watched. One of them was absolutely horrible. My daughter didn’t get picked, which is fine, but come on. There are girls on there that did absolutely nothing and got pushed through. You’re telling me the #2 2023 recruit who had a phenomenal tryout gets cut?? UNC head coach in stands glaring at evaluators making sure her daughter and other commits are pushed through. There were maybe 2 2024 girls that deserved it. They also had no refs, so a lot of illegal stuff going on. Very disappointed with the integrity of the process.
At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.
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Wow, saw the U20 roster. What a joke. Many of course very deserving, but you’re telling me 7/9 Northwestern girls?? Please stop. I was there and watched. One of them was absolutely horrible. My daughter didn’t get picked, which is fine, but come on. There are girls on there that did absolutely nothing and got pushed through. You’re telling me the #2 2023 recruit who had a phenomenal tryout gets cut?? UNC head coach in stands glaring at evaluators making sure her daughter and other commits are pushed through. There were maybe 2 2024 girls that deserved it. They also had no refs, so a lot of illegal stuff going on. Very disappointed with the integrity of the process.

We completely avoided this event, as the transparency isn't great. Don't think about trying out for the program in a non-hotbed area. Those locations are just money grabs and they won't take players, even if they are ranked highly.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.


How do you know they had a terrible try out? I really hope there were not parents watching try outs for three days and all the sessions. If you did please release your daughter to the game. Even if you were from out of town go see the sites. No reason ANY parent should have been there watching.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.

There were four 2024's added to the list.

Kate Levy
Eliza Osburn
Devon Russell
Hannah Rudolph

The assumption is you're saying the NC coach's daughter and the Northwestern commit are "political" picks?

You do realize a daughter of a coach can be a great player and, quite possibly, have earned her spot why her play? Uh ok. I'd detest to live in your world because it must not be a fun one.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.
Why does the “opinion” bother you so much then? Never said some girls didn’t deserve it, because they did. At the end of the day there will always be politics-right or wrong. Again, no attitude at all.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.

There were four 2024's added to the list.

Kate Levy
Eliza Osburn
Devon Russell
Hannah Rudolph

The assumption is you're saying the NC coach's daughter and the Northwestern commit are "political" picks?

You do realize a daughter of a coach can be a great player and, quite possibly, have earned her spot why her play? Uh ok. I'd detest to live in your world because it must not be a fun one.

2/4 ‘24s deserved it, 2/9 Northwestern girls deserved it. Yes, I watched as did pretty much all of the other parents of the girls invited to the tryouts, including UNC head coach who clearly had a role in the process. Everyone who was there knows the truth. You’re telling me that 2 Maryland top 10 recruits and Duke #2 recruit were not better than some politically connected girls who had meh tryouts. Phenomenal draw girl from Virginia Tech. Also #1 girl from Suffolk committed to BC, and Plenty more examples. It is political, but that’s life. Convince me otherwise if you were there. Remember 7/9 NW. that’s all you need to know to know. All good.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.


How do you know they had a terrible try out? I really hope there were not parents watching try outs for three days and all the sessions. If you did please release your daughter to the game. Even if you were from out of town go see the sites. No reason ANY parent should have been there watching.

Does that include J Levy, lol?? Making sure her daughter was getting the looks😉
There were no certified refs at a USA tryout. Northwestern current players “helping out”. Is this an actual Joke?? How can lacrosse be taken seriously?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.


How do you know they had a terrible try out? I really hope there were not parents watching try outs for three days and all the sessions. If you did please release your daughter to the game. Even if you were from out of town go see the sites. No reason ANY parent should have been there watching.
Of COURSE parents were watching!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.

There were four 2024's added to the list.

Kate Levy
Eliza Osburn
Devon Russell
Hannah Rudolph

The assumption is you're saying the NC coach's daughter and the Northwestern commit are "political" picks?

You do realize a daughter of a coach can be a great player and, quite possibly, have earned her spot why her play? Uh ok. I'd detest to live in your world because it must not be a fun one.

Lol you don't think they were political picks? Northwestern with 7/9 making it and Levy sitting in the stands watching.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.


How do you know they had a terrible try out? I really hope there were not parents watching try outs for three days and all the sessions. If you did please release your daughter to the game. Even if you were from out of town go see the sites. No reason ANY parent should have been there watching.

Absolutely you should address this with Jenn Levy.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.


How do you know they had a terrible try out? I really hope there were not parents watching try outs for three days and all the sessions. If you did please release your daughter to the game. Even if you were from out of town go see the sites. No reason ANY parent should have been there watching.

Absolutely you should address this with Jenn Levy.

JL is the coach of the womens national team and I was not referring to her. Helicopter parents are the ones I was referring to. Those who sit in the stands during a try out and think they know better then the USA staff that was tasked with evaluating the 98 athletes. I had no issue with the try out process and was not there to watch my daughter try out. I released my daughter to the game YEARS ago.
100%. I agree. The same way all the showcases that the kids went through all the years before were picked fairly. AS, AA, UA. Etc etc. No way it had anything to do with name recognition or team.
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.


How do you know they had a terrible try out? I really hope there were not parents watching try outs for three days and all the sessions. If you did please release your daughter to the game. Even if you were from out of town go see the sites. No reason ANY parent should have been there watching.

Absolutely you should address this with Jenn Levy.

JL is the coach of the womens national team and I was not referring to her. Helicopter parents are the ones I was referring to. Those who sit in the stands during a try out and think they know better then the USA staff that was tasked with evaluating the 98 athletes. I had no issue with the try out process and was not there to watch my daughter try out. I released my daughter to the game YEARS ago.

Lol, she was not there as an evaluator (officially that is) she was there to make sure her daughter made the team. Based on the tryout she would not have if mommy wasn’t pulling strings. It’s called politics. She should not have been allowed to be there given the conflict of interest. I actually have a problem with any 24s even being allowed to try out at all. There were plenty of 23s and 22s better and more experienced. You’re telling me that a 24 deserves a spot over a proven 22 who already completed a year of college where she earned accolades? Nonsense
The problem is no other country including Canada is going to give them much competition so they can pick who they want. Its unfair and has always been. Would be interesting if no parents were allowed to watch and neutral evaluators with the players being anonymous were used .
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At the end of the day, the majority of selection is always going to be political. You know before the tryouts even begin, who is going to make it. Honestly, I'm curious to see if names get added to the roster before the Fall...I'm sure some emails went out with complaints - happens under all the "best of the best" tryouts.

"the majority of selection is always going to be political"

Must be tough going through life with that attitude.
Not an attitude at all, just being honest.

So, "the majority" of the selections will always be political? Sorry, but that is an "attitude". It is not truth or fact. It might be your opinion but it stems from your attitude that these selections will always be political.

Maybe, just maybe the coach thinks the players that she selected will form the best team. After all, it is the coaches opinion that matters not yours.


The truth is that any of those girls at the tryout would blow out the weak “international” competition, which is actually made up of other American girls. The fact that coach took 7/9 of her own girls, some of which had terrible tryout tells us all we need to know. Of course those are the best girls in her opinion. Gotta feel sorry for the two she didn’t take. And some, not all, of those ‘24s were head scratchers and certainly political picks. It’s a political process. But so are many things in life and the lax world. Let’s just recognize it for what it is.


How do you know they had a terrible try out? I really hope there were not parents watching try outs for three days and all the sessions. If you did please release your daughter to the game. Even if you were from out of town go see the sites. No reason ANY parent should have been there watching.

Absolutely you should address this with Jenn Levy.

JL is the coach of the womens national team and I was not referring to her. Helicopter parents are the ones I was referring to. Those who sit in the stands during a try out and think they know better then the USA staff that was tasked with evaluating the 98 athletes. I had no issue with the try out process and was not there to watch my daughter try out. I released my daughter to the game YEARS ago.

Got it. Different rules for different parents.
Some parents will never accept that not everyone has the same opinion as they have about their daughter. These very same parents complain every time other people believe that there are players stronger than their daughter.

As for the US U20 tryouts one question stands out to me:

- Did Northwestern offer your daughter a spot?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some parents will never accept that not everyone has the same opinion as they have about their daughter. These very same parents complain every time other people believe that there are players stronger than their daughter.

As for the US U20 tryouts one question stands out to me:

- Did Northwestern offer your daughter a spot?

Yes, she declined
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some parents will never accept that not everyone has the same opinion as they have about their daughter. These very same parents complain every time other people believe that there are players stronger than their daughter.

As for the US U20 tryouts one question stands out to me:

- Did Northwestern offer your daughter a spot?
?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some parents will never accept that not everyone has the same opinion as they have about their daughter. These very same parents complain every time other people believe that there are players stronger than their daughter.

As for the US U20 tryouts one question stands out to me:

- Did Northwestern offer your daughter a spot?

Yes, she declined

Actually several of the girls who were cut visited Northwestern but ultimately decided to go elsewhere. They were her top choices. Interesting don’t you think?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some parents will never accept that not everyone has the same opinion as they have about their daughter. These very same parents complain every time other people believe that there are players stronger than their daughter.

As for the US U20 tryouts one question stands out to me:

- Did Northwestern offer your daughter a spot?

Yes, she declined

Actually several of the girls who were cut visited Northwestern but ultimately decided to go elsewhere. They were her top choices. Interesting don’t you think?

Crickets!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem is no other country including Canada is going to give them much competition so they can pick who they want. Its unfair and has always been. Would be interesting if no parents were allowed to watch and neutral evaluators with the players being anonymous were used .

So true! If a girl is a decent player and has a connection with another country , probably better off to go play in that country. Better odds and less politics. Plus, very fun experience.
NCAA has announced rule changes thoughts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NCAA has announced rule changes thoughts?

Glad they threw out 6v6. Love the flopping and shooting space rules. Not fool about all the 1 min green card calls but the changes are easier to swallow since they rebuked the 6v6.
What is everyone’s problem with the 6 v 6. Also good luck to the upcoming freshman and returning offensive players at BC who were hoping to get playing time , not going to happen. All these players who abandon their friends and teams to join already stacked teams in hope of getting an NCAA championship by riding on the backs of already established teams says a lot about their character . I get a player leaving a school because they dislike the school for certain reasons but taking the easy route to winning is pathetic.
BC is not one do those schools that brings in tons of transfers; weird that you’d choose to attack the few girls they’re bringing in. I know one of the transfers personally (UF) and she sees this as a tremendous opportunity to extend her athletic career one more year while playing for a great coach.
Sorry your daughter didn’t get a call.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is everyone’s problem with the 6 v 6. Also good luck to the upcoming freshman and returning offensive players at BC who were hoping to get playing time , not going to happen. All these players who abandon their friends and teams to join already stacked teams in hope of getting an NCAA championship by riding on the backs of already established teams says a lot about their character . I get a player leaving a school because they dislike the school for certain reasons but taking the easy route to winning is pathetic.

The Lebron James way go join a super team. Also why do girls go to schools like BC and UNC knowing those schools are going to the portal for your replacement? Its not just grad students anymore BC added two top attacks good look for the recruits and existing players to get play time.
Younger girls/recruits get to face the very best in practice and earn a spot. If they can’t beat out a transfer, that’s on them. Work hard, gain experience from another year, be ready when the opportunity arises.
Stop raising snowflakes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Younger girls/recruits get to face the very best in practice and earn a spot. If they can’t beat out a transfer, that’s on them. Work hard, gain experience from another year, be ready when the opportunity arises.
Stop raising snowflakes

And if they don’t play in games, they can redshirt and ironically do the same to someone else that was done to them. The vicious cycle continues!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NCAA has announced rule changes thoughts?

Glad they threw out 6v6. Love the flopping and shooting space rules. Not fool about all the 1 min green card calls but the changes are easier to swallow since they rebuked the 6v6.

6v6 was added to the changes (knowing full well it would not pass) for exactly this reason.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Younger girls/recruits get to face the very best in practice and earn a spot. If they can’t beat out a transfer, that’s on them. Work hard, gain experience from another year, be ready when the opportunity arises.
Stop raising snowflakes

And if they don’t play in games, they can redshirt and ironically do the same to someone else that was done to them. The vicious cycle continues!

Good grief...

Looks as if the "Everybody gets a trophy attitude" is alive and well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC is not one do those schools that brings in tons of transfers; weird that you’d choose to attack the few girls they’re bringing in. I know one of the transfers personally (UF) and she sees this as a tremendous opportunity to extend her athletic career one more year while playing for a great coach.
Sorry your daughter didn’t get a call.

Ridiculous and clearly uninformed response .The UF transfer is not extending her athletic career by transferring in any way and to try to say that has anything to do with her decision just shows how you have no idea . My daughter was recruited by AW but have an actual conversation with many of the players that go there and not many enjoy the experience .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC is not one do those schools that brings in tons of transfers; weird that you’d choose to attack the few girls they’re bringing in. I know one of the transfers personally (UF) and she sees this as a tremendous opportunity to extend her athletic career one more year while playing for a great coach.
Sorry your daughter didn’t get a call.

Ridiculous and clearly uninformed response .The UF transfer is not extending her athletic career by transferring in any way and to try to say that has anything to do with her decision just shows how you have no idea . My daughter was recruited by AW but have an actual conversation with many of the players that go there and not many enjoy the experience .

Lol. My daughter plays for AW and the majority of the players including her love the experience. Your turn
Wait, are you suggesting I didn’t have the conversation w the young lady? Lololol
You are a buffoon - I did. And she is excited to play lax for another year before the real world begins. Not everyone is a cantankerous POS like you. She will love her experience there and the team will be awesome! Try being less miserable, your husband will appreciate it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC is not one do those schools that brings in tons of transfers; weird that you’d choose to attack the few girls they’re bringing in. I know one of the transfers personally (UF) and she sees this as a tremendous opportunity to extend her athletic career one more year while playing for a great coach.
Sorry your daughter didn’t get a call.

Ridiculous and clearly uninformed response .The UF transfer is not extending her athletic career by transferring in any way and to try to say that has anything to do with her decision just shows how you have no idea . My daughter was recruited by AW but have an actual conversation with many of the players that go there and not many enjoy the experience .

Yes, clearly the transfer was done because BC is a better lacrosse team. Not to extend the career. It’s all great to play on a team like BC or Northwestern, but your daughter better not be making mistakes that cost games. Very different going from a Florida to a BC. Very short leash she will be on. Some excellent players recruited by teams such as those who have notorious reputations for being nasty (yes I know all coaches can be nasty, but they take it to another level) choose to go elsewhere for that exact reason. Making a comment like “you daughter didn’t get a call” just shows your ignorance. Transferring because you think you’re going to win a NC which is highly unlikely is silly. BC is not going to be as good moving forward. The best is seeing AW pouting face when she loses big games. Looking forward to seeing a lot of that next season!
AWW hates losing? She shows frustration and disappointment when her team loses?? Fire her immediately! Lol what a crock.
The young ladies love playing at BC; I know that for a fact! I’m sorry your daughter isn’t there but rooting for them to lose tells me all I need to know about you…so bitter.
I’ve read about BC’s demise on this forum for a while now and yet there they were playing for the NC and winning the ACC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
AWW hates losing? She shows frustration and disappointment when her team loses?? Fire her immediately! Lol what a crock.
The young ladies love playing at BC; I know that for a fact! I’m sorry your daughter isn’t there but rooting for them to lose tells me all I need to know about you…so bitter.
I’ve read about BC’s demise on this forum for a while now and yet there they were playing for the NC and winning the ACC.

Loved watching that blowout in the NC. You have to show up to win. Where was the great coaching? The reason why people don’t like BC is because of the arrogance of posts like yours. Be humble and the team will be liked more. Take a lesson from Northwestern.
Arrogance? For defending the young women who represent the best in BC? For defending a coach that wins, suppers her team and does all w class?
Enjoy being a bottom-feeder
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
AWW hates losing? She shows frustration and disappointment when her team loses?? Fire her immediately! Lol what a crock.
The young ladies love playing at BC; I know that for a fact! I’m sorry your daughter isn’t there but rooting for them to lose tells me all I need to know about you…so bitter.
I’ve read about BC’s demise on this forum for a while now and yet there they were playing for the NC and winning the ACC.

Loved watching that blowout in the NC. You have to show up to win. Where was the great coaching? The reason why people don’t like BC is because of the arrogance of posts like yours. Be humble and the team will be liked more. Take a lesson from Northwestern.


NW humble you must be joking?
KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
Is everyone forgetting how UNC stacked their team last year w/ transfers & WON? Why would other teams not follow???
There is so much animonsity for Bc within this forum, I am certain they recall what UNC did, they just don’t care. My point earlier was just that; look at BC’s roster, nowhere near the amount of transfers other top schools have.
If I graduated from UF and I have one year left, of course I want to find a team that offers me a chance to win it all. Add to that, a masters degree from a top institution, with the alumni reach BC has, it’s a no-brainer. Anyone suggesting otherwise is bitter and/or jealous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is so much animonsity for Bc within this forum, I am certain they recall what UNC did, they just don’t care. My point earlier was just that; look at BC’s roster, nowhere near the amount of transfers other top schools have.
If I graduated from UF and I have one year left, of course I want to find a team that offers me a chance to win it all. Add to that, a masters degree from a top institution, with the alumni reach BC has, it’s a no-brainer. Anyone suggesting otherwise is bitter and/or jealous.

Who graduated? Isn’t the transfer in question a Jr??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is so much animonsity for Bc within this forum, I am certain they recall what UNC did, they just don’t care. My point earlier was just that; look at BC’s roster, nowhere near the amount of transfers other top schools have.
If I graduated from UF and I have one year left, of course I want to find a team that offers me a chance to win it all. Add to that, a masters degree from a top institution, with the alumni reach BC has, it’s a no-brainer. Anyone suggesting otherwise is bitter and/or jealous.

True and fair. But this particular student-athlete did not just graduate from UF. She is entering her Junior year of college (2025 grad). I think that is the point that the prior poster was making. That said, no one but that student and maybe her parents/coaches know why she transferred from UF to BC. Maybe lacrosse, maybe academics (I am a Gator but even I can agree that BC is a more prestigious academic school), maybe better culture/fit. No one but that student should care about the reasons.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is so much animonsity for Bc within this forum, I am certain they recall what UNC did, they just don’t care. My point earlier was just that; look at BC’s roster, nowhere near the amount of transfers other top schools have.
If I graduated from UF and I have one year left, of course I want to find a team that offers me a chance to win it all. Add to that, a masters degree from a top institution, with the alumni reach BC has, it’s a no-brainer. Anyone suggesting otherwise is bitter and/or jealous.

True and fair. But this particular student-athlete did not just graduate from UF. She is entering her Junior year of college (2025 grad). I think that is the point that the prior poster was making. That said, no one but that student and maybe her parents/coaches know why she transferred from UF to BC. Maybe lacrosse, maybe academics (I am a Gator but even I can agree that BC is a more prestigious academic school), maybe better culture/fit. No one but that student should care about the reasons.

Lol, Florida is easily a better academic school than BC. Things have changed since you went there.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges
Originally Posted by Anonymous
KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
How do you know why the Jr transferred? The announcement came literally right after UVA's head coach left. Maybe she wasn't confident with who was coming in? Maybe the environment wasn't good? Why does it make her look weak and show a lack of character? Everyone has their reasons, no need to bash someone for their choice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
How do you know why the Jr transferred? The announcement came literally right after UVA's head coach left. Maybe she wasn't confident with who was coming in? Maybe the environment wasn't good? Why does it make her look weak and show a lack of character? Everyone has their reasons, no need to bash someone for their choice.

I just dont bye it and know for a fact that kid was looking around prior to the coach leaving. Its weak to do interviews when you are getting all these accolades saying how great the school and your teammates are etc and then pack your bags when the going gets a little difficult. Its a lack of character to to leave your friends and teammates to ride on the coattails of an already excellent team instead of having the resolve to make the team you are on better. You are right I have no idea why this player left but I can just about guarantee you its because she thinks she is better than the team she left. Interesting that both the juniors left midway thru their collegiate careers to attend a less regarded academic school, hopefully that womens lacrosse career works out.
BC is a better school than UF, not even a question; those rankings penalize BC (and other Faith-based universities) for using research dollars for Catholic-based programs. Do some research before looking at a list…
I’m not a BC alum but Florida better is laughable. UF’s acceptance rate is over 30%, less than 90% graduate, over 60k enrolled…good school but come on
Florida plays in a weak conference. Be careful because the stats will not translate. Grass isn’t always greener.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m not a BC alum but Florida better is laughable. UF’s acceptance rate is over 30%, less than 90% graduate, over 60k enrolled…good school but come on


There is a reason Florida is ranked 29, just behind UVA and tied with UNC. BC 36. Just a way better school all around. This is according to the experts, not me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC is a better school than UF, not even a question; those rankings penalize BC (and other Faith-based universities) for using research dollars for Catholic-based programs. Do some research before looking at a list…

PLEASE SHOW US YOUR EXPANSIVE RESEARCH.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
How do you know why the Jr transferred? The announcement came literally right after UVA's head coach left. Maybe she wasn't confident with who was coming in? Maybe the environment wasn't good? Why does it make her look weak and show a lack of character? Everyone has their reasons, no need to bash someone for their choice.

I just dont bye it and know for a fact that kid was looking around prior to the coach leaving. Its weak to do interviews when you are getting all these accolades saying how great the school and your teammates are etc and then pack your bags when the going gets a little difficult. It’s a lack of character to to leave your friends and teammates to ride on the coattails of an already excellent team instead of having the resolve to make the team you are on better. You are right I have no idea why this player left but I can just about guarantee you it’s because she thinks she is better than the team she left. Interesting that both the juniors left midway thru their collegiate careers to attend a less regarded academic school, hopefully that womens lacrosse career works out.[/

Agreed. What a great teammate I’m leaving because I’m better than this team. Don’t expect the superstar treatment at BC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
How do you know why the Jr transferred? The announcement came literally right after UVA's head coach left. Maybe she wasn't confident with who was coming in? Maybe the environment wasn't good? Why does it make her look weak and show a lack of character? Everyone has their reasons, no need to bash someone for their choice.

I just dont bye it and know for a fact that kid was looking around prior to the coach leaving. Its weak to do interviews when you are getting all these accolades saying how great the school and your teammates are etc and then pack your bags when the going gets a little difficult. It’s a lack of character to to leave your friends and teammates to ride on the coattails of an already excellent team instead of having the resolve to make the team you are on better. You are right I have no idea why this player left but I can just about guarantee you it’s because she thinks she is better than the team she left. Interesting that both the juniors left midway thru their collegiate careers to attend a less regarded academic school, hopefully that womens lacrosse career works out.[/

Agreed. What a great teammate I’m leaving because I’m better than this team. Don’t expect the superstar treatment at BC.
WOW, you all need to get a life and concentrate on your own daughter instead of worrying about "why" someone is transferring as a Junior. I hope she has a great season with BC - and no i have no affiliation with her or BC. See how easy it is to be nice?!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
How do you know why the Jr transferred? The announcement came literally right after UVA's head coach left. Maybe she wasn't confident with who was coming in? Maybe the environment wasn't good? Why does it make her look weak and show a lack of character? Everyone has their reasons, no need to bash someone for their choice.

I just dont bye it and know for a fact that kid was looking around prior to the coach leaving. Its weak to do interviews when you are getting all these accolades saying how great the school and your teammates are etc and then pack your bags when the going gets a little difficult. It’s a lack of character to to leave your friends and teammates to ride on the coattails of an already excellent team instead of having the resolve to make the team you are on better. You are right I have no idea why this player left but I can just about guarantee you it’s because she thinks she is better than the team she left. Interesting that both the juniors left midway thru their collegiate careers to attend a less regarded academic school, hopefully that womens lacrosse career works out.[/

Agreed. What a great teammate I’m leaving because I’m better than this team. Don’t expect the superstar treatment at BC.
WOW, you all need to get a life and concentrate on your own daughter instead of worrying about "why" someone is transferring as a Junior. I hope she has a great season with BC - and no i have no affiliation with her or BC. See how easy it is to be nice?!

Ok mom
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
How do you know why the Jr transferred? The announcement came literally right after UVA's head coach left. Maybe she wasn't confident with who was coming in? Maybe the environment wasn't good? Why does it make her look weak and show a lack of character? Everyone has their reasons, no need to bash someone for their choice.

I just dont bye it and know for a fact that kid was looking around prior to the coach leaving. Its weak to do interviews when you are getting all these accolades saying how great the school and your teammates are etc and then pack your bags when the going gets a little difficult. It’s a lack of character to to leave your friends and teammates to ride on the coattails of an already excellent team instead of having the resolve to make the team you are on better. You are right I have no idea why this player left but I can just about guarantee you it’s because she thinks she is better than the team she left. Interesting that both the juniors left midway thru their collegiate careers to attend a less regarded academic school, hopefully that womens lacrosse career works out.[/

Agreed. What a great teammate I’m leaving because I’m better than this team. Don’t expect the superstar treatment at BC.
WOW, you all need to get a life and concentrate on your own daughter instead of worrying about "why" someone is transferring as a Junior. I hope she has a great season with BC - and no i have no affiliation with her or BC. See how easy it is to be nice?!

Ok mom
What a stellar comeback
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]KAH and AW have similar reputations as being difficult to play for . Yes there are many who have enjoyed their experiences at both schools but I have spoken to many who did not including many starters . I am sure that there are unhappy players at every program just seems to me that a good number of the players I have spoken with at those two programs say they are difficult to play for. It is one of the reasons my daughter wanted to go elsewhere. That said there were players and parents who disliked the coach at my daughters school but it always seemed to be from players who did not see the field as much as they thought they should.
As far as top players transferring in so they can have a better chance at winning a national championship it just looks weak and shows a lack of character . I get the 5th year who graduated wanting to do another year at another school but to leave the coaches, teammates , and friends to ride on the coat tails of another program is a bad look.
How do you know why the Jr transferred? The announcement came literally right after UVA's head coach left. Maybe she wasn't confident with who was coming in? Maybe the environment wasn't good? Why does it make her look weak and show a lack of character? Everyone has their reasons, no need to bash someone for their choice.

I just dont bye it and know for a fact that kid was looking around prior to the coach leaving. Its weak to do interviews when you are getting all these accolades saying how great the school and your teammates are etc and then pack your bags when the going gets a little difficult. It’s a lack of character to to leave your friends and teammates to ride on the coattails of an already excellent team instead of having the resolve to make the team you are on better. You are right I have no idea why this player left but I can just about guarantee you it’s because she thinks she is better than the team she left. Interesting that both the juniors left midway thru their collegiate careers to attend a less regarded academic school, hopefully that womens lacrosse career works out.[/

Agreed. What a great teammate I’m leaving because I’m better than this team. Don’t expect the superstar treatment at BC.
WOW, you all need to get a life and concentrate on your own daughter instead of worrying about "why" someone is transferring as a Junior. I hope she has a great season with BC - and no i have no affiliation with her or BC. See how easy it is to be nice?!

Ok mom
What a stellar comeback

Honestly it was more thought out and funnier than your everyone gets a trophy reply. At least have an opinion, mom.
So the HS classes of 2020 and 2021 now college Sr's and Jr's really got the shaft. First they lost out on all of the wonderful summer tournaments recognizing the best in the nation before college. They had to play and lose out on scholarship money to the returning 5th years and teams holding back funds until the transfer portal closed. They lost a year in HS. There's no special considerations for them. No 5th year opportunity's. Now our High School students maybe in jeopardy of losing seasons because Section XI can't come to terms with the referee association. Be their voice where they can't since the Section XI Board takes out any push back out against the students. DO NOT LET THE STUDENT ATHLETES SUFFER
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the HS classes of 2020 and 2021 now college Sr's and Jr's really got the shaft. First they lost out on all of the wonderful summer tournaments recognizing the best in the nation before college. They had to play and lose out on scholarship money to the returning 5th years and teams holding back funds until the transfer portal closed. They lost a year in HS. There's no special considerations for them. No 5th year opportunity's. Now our High School students maybe in jeopardy of losing seasons because Section XI can't come to terms with the referee association. Be their voice where they can't since the Section XI Board takes out any push back out against the students. DO NOT LET THE STUDENT ATHLETES SUFFER

Don’t forget how section XI crammed and shortened all sports seasons into the second half of school year 20-21. Even though spring sports lost their ENTIRE season in 20, but the fall/winter sports did not. This was VERY bad for spring athletes in their recruiting year because the shortened season started later and went well into the end of June depriving them of opportunities to attend important recruiting events. No thought whatsoever went into that planning. It also too Suffolk girls lacrosse coaches association 3 years to decide we were safe from COVID and could finally have an awards dinner!
Fall sports will most likely be delayed. Any games played without refs will be considered scrimmages and will count. Everyone needs to voice their concerns NOW with their AD, BOE and superintendents. Our student athletes will be the ones to suffer. Football will be the first to loose out since they start before everyone else.
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There is so much animonsity for Bc within this forum, I am certain they recall what UNC did, they just don’t care. My point earlier was just that; look at BC’s roster, nowhere near the amount of transfers other top schools have.
If I graduated from UF and I have one year left, of course I want to find a team that offers me a chance to win it all. Add to that, a masters degree from a top institution, with the alumni reach BC has, it’s a no-brainer. Anyone suggesting otherwise is bitter and/or jealous.

Why post if you are completely ignorant of the facts
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is so much animonsity for Bc within this forum, I am certain they recall what UNC did, they just don’t care. My point earlier was just that; look at BC’s roster, nowhere near the amount of transfers other top schools have.
If I graduated from UF and I have one year left, of course I want to find a team that offers me a chance to win it all. Add to that, a masters degree from a top institution, with the alumni reach BC has, it’s a no-brainer. Anyone suggesting otherwise is bitter and/or jealous.

Why post if you are completely ignorant of the facts

It seems some of you are unaware there are two UF players transferring to BC. One is a rising junior with two years of eligibility. One is a grad transfer who has a Covid year, and maybe another due to injury that sidelined her during one of her four years at UF.
Correct. UF has two girls heading up north. I think the BC fan is talking about the defender, not the offensive player. I guess when you have so much anger, it’s hard to think rationally…
Girls leave UF because not a good culture there.
AAC is definitely not weak conf. Yes big ten and ACC better
BC and UF are close on paper but BC is considered a better school by employers and BC’s reputation carries farther geographically than UF’s. UF has higher level football and basketball programs but in nearly every other college experience area (except winter weather) BC is better. Boston vs Gainesville? C’mon. Everyone knows the UF program has a reputation for poor culture.

And UVA, awesome school in every way but that program is a mess and will take some fixing. No one does less with more - except maybe Duke - than Virginia.
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BC and UF are close on paper but BC is considered a better school by employers and BC’s reputation carries farther geographically than UF’s. UF has higher level football and basketball programs but in nearly every other college experience area (except winter weather) BC is better. Boston vs Gainesville? C’mon. Everyone knows the UF program has a reputation for poor culture.

And UVA, awesome school in every way but that program is a mess and will take some fixing. No one does less with more - except maybe Duke - than Virginia.

You are wrong. UF is an all around better school than BC, which is the reason it is ranked 29, and BC is quite a bit behind at 36. Duke and Virginia has lax programs comparable to UF, but Duke far ahead academically
You can point to whatever metrics you choose; BC is a better school, much more difficult to get into. But, if you want to attend a school w 80k kids (w/ an acceptance rate over 30%) enjoy, I wish you the best!
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You can point to whatever metrics you choose; BC is a better school, much more difficult to get into. But, if you want to attend a school w 80k kids (w/ an acceptance rate over 30%) enjoy, I wish you the best!

Actually I would rather my daughter attend a top ten school, which is why she is. But UF higher ranked than BC. Those are just facts.
You clowns can argue all you want, both are good schools.
Regardless of your idiotic opinions, the girls are now at BC and I wish them nothing but success. Similarly, I hope UVA and UF finds opportunity for other players.
Get over yourselves
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can point to whatever metrics you choose; BC is a better school, much more difficult to get into. But, if you want to attend a school w 80k kids (w/ an acceptance rate over 30%) enjoy, I wish you the best!

Actually I would rather my daughter attend a top ten school, which is why she is. But UF higher ranked than BC. Those are just facts.
Can you clarify...top 10 academically or top 10 lacrosse?
I’ll tell you what’s not better…UF’s lax program. The young ladies wanted an opportunity to win the Chip; if you don’t like it (because your daughter couldn’t do the same), get over it. You are embarrassing yourself being critical of the decision these young ladies have made.
Jealousy and envy aren’t healthy
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can point to whatever metrics you choose; BC is a better school, much more difficult to get into. But, if you want to attend a school w 80k kids (w/ an acceptance rate over 30%) enjoy, I wish you the best!

Actually I would rather my daughter attend a top ten school, which is why she is. But UF higher ranked than BC. Those are just facts.

You can have both….it’s called Northwestern, otherwise you’re sacrificing one or the other
If I am to believe your daughter goes top ten, not easy to do, I wonder why so bitter? Enjoy the success she has achieved, in spite of the vitriol that envelopes you. These young ladies made a decision that doesn’t involve you, it’s necessary to attack them?! Yikes
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If I am to believe your daughter goes top ten, not easy to do, I wonder why so bitter? Enjoy the success she has achieved, in spite of the vitriol that envelopes you. These young ladies made a decision that doesn’t involve you, it’s necessary to attack them?! Yikes


Who’s bitter? There are lots of reasons why girls pick school, and why schools pick girls. For some lacrosse is a priority, for some it’s academics, and others it’s both. My only point is that Florida is a higher ranked school that BC. BC is better at lacrosse. Others are better at both.
Lolololol
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC and UF are close on paper but BC is considered a better school by employers and BC’s reputation carries farther geographically than UF’s. UF has higher level football and basketball programs but in nearly every other college experience area (except winter weather) BC is better. Boston vs Gainesville? C’mon. Everyone knows the UF program has a reputation for poor culture.

And UVA, awesome school in every way but that program is a mess and will take some fixing. No one does less with more - except maybe Duke - than Virginia.

You are wrong. UF is an all around better school than BC, which is the reason it is ranked 29, and BC is quite a bit behind at 36. Duke and Virginia has lax programs comparable to UF, but Duke far ahead academically

Duke is comparable to UF? Duke was dreadful last year and they lost their draw girl.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
BC and UF are close on paper but BC is considered a better school by employers and BC’s reputation carries farther geographically than UF’s. UF has higher level football and basketball programs but in nearly every other college experience area (except winter weather) BC is better. Boston vs Gainesville? C’mon. Everyone knows the UF program has a reputation for poor culture.

And UVA, awesome school in every way but that program is a mess and will take some fixing. No one does less with more - except maybe Duke - than Virginia.

You are wrong. UF is an all around better school than BC, which is the reason it is ranked 29, and BC is quite a bit behind at 36. Duke and Virginia has lax programs comparable to UF, but Duke far ahead academically

Duke is comparable to UF? Duke was dreadful last year and they lost their draw girl.

Duke plays in the ACC, UF plays nobody. Racking up points in a weak conference is not the same as playing top competition. Duke is comparable to UF, but a much better academic school. UVA also comparable.
UF is not a better school than BC, period. You can point to the rankings all you want, they’re meaningless, truly. If you had children that went to faith-based schools or even applied, you would know why/how they get dinged in those arbitrary rankings. I didn’t even attend BC, but am quite familiar w the process. If, by chance, you do have college-aged children, you’re simply being obtuse
All of this because a couple of young ladies made a decision to go play at BC…bananas. Let the ladies love their lives, enjoy their seasons and see how it all plays out.
BC is a great school. UF is a great school. That’s it.
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All of this because a couple of young ladies made a decision to go play at BC…bananas. Let the ladies love their lives, enjoy their seasons and see how it all plays out.
BC is a great school. UF is a great school. That’s it.
You must be a big Lebron fan , I prefer Jordan.
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner
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Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
Your daughter’s success doesn’t validate your perspective, but thank you for the resume…
Here is the point, I’ll keep it as succinct at possible…who cares? I take umbrage w/anyone that disparages these young women for making a decision. They are not quitters; they are not selfish; they are athletes.
Let’s see what happens. Human nature to keep striving for better. Climbing the ladder. But….sometimes the grass isn’t greener. I think if it was my daughter it would be a tough decision, especially if things don’t work out the way the way you hoped
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.
Love anonymous posts who make fun of other poster’s daughters. Then they add stuff about don’t worry what other kids do.

They 100% are looking for a chance to play for a National Championship l. And right now that’s in the rules. So nothing wrong with that.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

I don’t think anyone is worried, or cares that much. Good chance the girls won’t even play much. The spot has to be earned and there is stiff competition. It’s just a discussion, it’s not like we’re talking about a Charlotte North here. Mom needs to calm down, not that deep
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

I don’t think anyone is worried, or cares that much. Good chance the girls won’t even play much. The spot has to be earned and there is stiff competition. It’s just a discussion, it’s not like we’re talking about a Charlotte North here. Mom needs to calm down, not that deep[/quote

Now this is a silly comment. BC has two attack spots open after Medjid and Weeks graduate and you think there is a good chance that 2 AA transfers wont play much. They start on day #1. Same is likely true of the AA defensive player from Florida. We are talking about elite AA players with 2 years of experience and a proven track record.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

I don’t think anyone is worried, or cares that much. Good chance the girls won’t even play much. The spot has to be earned and there is stiff competition. It’s just a discussion, it’s not like we’re talking about a Charlotte North here. Mom needs to calm down, not that deep[/quote

Now this is a silly comment. BC has two attack spots open after Medjid and Weeks graduate and you think there is a good chance that 2 AA transfers wont play much. They start on day #1. Same is likely true of the AA defensive player from Florida. We are talking about elite AA players with 2 years of experience and a proven track record.

Absolutely true and if the 2022 or 2023 commits thought they were going to play due to the players that graduated that's not going to happen now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

I don’t think anyone is worried, or cares that much. Good chance the girls won’t even play much. The spot has to be earned and there is stiff competition. It’s just a discussion, it’s not like we’re talking about a Charlotte North here. Mom needs to calm down, not that deep[/quote

Now this is a silly comment. BC has two attack spots open after Medjid and Weeks graduate and you think there is a good chance that 2 AA transfers wont play much. They start on day #1. Same is likely true of the AA defensive player from Florida. We are talking about elite AA players with 2 years of experience and a proven track record.

In a weak conference. ACC competition very different. Will be interesting. Like going from a B team to an A team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

I don’t think anyone is worried, or cares that much. Good chance the girls won’t even play much. The spot has to be earned and there is stiff competition. It’s just a discussion, it’s not like we’re talking about a Charlotte North here. Mom needs to calm down, not that deep[/quote

Now this is a silly comment. BC has two attack spots open after Medjid and Weeks graduate and you think there is a good chance that 2 AA transfers wont play much. They start on day #1. Same is likely true of the AA defensive player from Florida. We are talking about elite AA players with 2 years of experience and a proven track record.

In a weak conference. ACC competition very different. Will be interesting. Like going from a B team to an A team

==== "In a weak conference. ACC competition very different. Will be interesting. Like going from a B team to an A team." ====

The above statement is just more nonsense.

Yes, the ACC is a stronger conference. However, in 2023 Florida competed against 9 teams that finished the Season ranked in the Top 25.

- 5 vs Top 10.

- 8 vs Top 15.

- 9 vs Top 25.

Just took a quick look and one of the transfers did just fine vs very good competition.

Time will tell but wishing the best for all parties.

To each her own.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

That’s the exact difference between our posts , I do have a clue while you are clueless . Just ask the players who transferred and they will tell you they transferred because they want to win a national title , no other reason . It bothers me because these women made a commitment to their schools and teammates and did not see it thru . It bothers me because high school players make life altering decisions based on their best guess as to potential playing time and a coaches commitment level to them and these coaches that consistently stack their teams with talent produced elsewhere are not living up to what they have told many of these in coming players .
Let’s face the facts. 12.6 scholarships is not reality.

-division 3 players who were given 2 extra CoVid years are using the ruling in D1…it was d3 rule. Go back to D3 and use your extra year. I guess if equality give others extra year.


- not new. But schools have many other scholarships area to pull from not only Academic. They have hardship, religious beliefs etc… that can fund a Student Athlete.


NCAA has lost control hence why you’re seeing the Big schools with Football and Basketball coming together to form 3 or 2 major conferences. Which will be regionally split into divisions-sound like pro model. The future.

Be happy non revenue will ride coattails.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

That’s the exact difference between our posts , I do have a clue while you are clueless . Just ask the players who transferred and they will tell you they transferred because they want to win a national title , no other reason . It bothers me because these women made a commitment to their schools and teammates and did not see it thru . It bothers me because high school players make life altering decisions based on their best guess as to potential playing time and a coaches commitment level to them and these coaches that consistently stack their teams with talent produced elsewhere are not living up to what they have told many of these in coming players .
Unfortunately this has become part of the game
Every school is doing it; every coach at the college level is doing it. Kudos to your daughter for sticking it out all 4yrs (which I assume allows you the soapbox), but things change. Coaches make different plans, girls change their minds and/or see better opportunities…it’s called college athletics.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

That’s the exact difference between our posts , I do have a clue while you are clueless . Just ask the players who transferred and they will tell you they transferred because they want to win a national title , no other reason . It bothers me because these women made a commitment to their schools and teammates and did not see it thru . It bothers me because high school players make life altering decisions based on their best guess as to potential playing time and a coaches commitment level to them and these coaches that consistently stack their teams with talent produced elsewhere are not living up to what they have told many of these in coming players .

You honestly just sounded very bitter while being on your high horse.
Not the original poster. It is part of the game. But that doesn’t mean you have to like it. It does [Censored] for the kids that think they are getting playing time and all of a sudden an AA comes transferring in. It’s happening on other schools as well. Not just D1. D2 teams are dealing with this as well. It’s the rule. maybe the kids should be going to a school they know their playing time won’t be snatched away by another player transferring in. I do t like it. Worried for my daughter but it is what it is. It’s not going away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too bad your daughter is Harold Miner

Impressive reference! "Baby Jordan"... love a call-back to the good old days, and love the whimsical tidbits on here that make me smile... so much better than the vitriol...

Very creative and very appropriate... kudos to you, Sir or Madame... keep 'em coming
Yes so creative bringing the posters daughter into the conversation . My daughter was actually a 3 time IWLCA AA ( 4 time media AA which honestly is a bit of a joke . Never won a national championship but never considered leaving her team and friends to ride on the coattails of others . If you think these players transferred to BC for any reason other than having a better chance at a national title you are ill informed .
At the end of the day, why does it bother you what OTHERS chose to do? If it's not your daughter, then don't worry about it. How do you know they weren't being recruited form BC from the beginning but made another choice and regret it? You have no clue why they made the decision, so stop speculating and be more concerned about your own daughter.

That’s the exact difference between our posts , I do have a clue while you are clueless . Just ask the players who transferred and they will tell you they transferred because they want to win a national title , no other reason . It bothers me because these women made a commitment to their schools and teammates and did not see it thru . It bothers me because high school players make life altering decisions based on their best guess as to potential playing time and a coaches commitment level to them and these coaches that consistently stack their teams with talent produced elsewhere are not living up to what they have told many of these in coming players .

You honestly just sounded very bitter while being on your high horse.

You honestly just sounded like someone who cannot debate an issue without personal attacks which is generally an indicator of a lack of knowledge. Not attacking these girls personally at all just the system and honestly the coaches that show no loyalty to their players who have showed them and their teammates loyalty. These coaches talk of how the team is a family when recruiting these kids and then turn their backs on them.Its not bitterness , my kid is done playing .
So you have a problem w the coaches, the young ladies, the system and the schools…but everyone else is clueless? Got it
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So you have a problem w the coaches, the young ladies, the system and the schools…but everyone else is clueless? Got it
So again you have nothing to add to the conversation . You are obviously one of those people who are too flaccid to speak up when you see something wrong with a system or just too ignorant to have a position . I also have issues with the pro league having different teams each week , they have made it an individual sport not a team sport .
My position couldn’t be clearer - it’s happening, there’s nothing you can do about it, so stop whining.
You are the proverbial old man yelling at clouds.
In a perfect world, no athlete transfers and every recruit earns an opportunity to play; we don’t live in a perfect world. GET OVER IT!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So you have a problem w the coaches, the young ladies, the system and the schools…but everyone else is clueless? Got it
So again you have nothing to add to the conversation . You are obviously one of those people who are too flaccid to speak up when you see something wrong with a system or just too ignorant to have a position . I also have issues with the pro league having different teams each week , they have made it an individual sport not a team sport .

==== "they have made it an individual sport not a team sport ." ====

Now you are onto something. ;-)
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My position couldn’t be clearer - it’s happening, there’s nothing you can do about it, so stop whining.
You are the proverbial old man yelling at clouds.
In a perfect world, no athlete transfers and every recruit earns an opportunity to play; we don’t live in a perfect world. GET OVER IT!

Wow, great position , it’s happening so leave it alone . You must be okay with our daughters being forced to change with and compete against fully intact men as that is “ happening” also. I will take the old man yelling at clouds over the lemming running off a cliff ( yes I am aware it’s just a saying ). You are correct there may be nothing I can do about it but you never know , I for one am glad Riley Gaines is trying to make a difference .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My position couldn’t be clearer - it’s happening, there’s nothing you can do about it, so stop whining.
You are the proverbial old man yelling at clouds.
In a perfect world, no athlete transfers and every recruit earns an opportunity to play; we don’t live in a perfect world. GET OVER IT!

Love when the grad transfer gets the number requested by the incoming freshman. Jokes
Conflating two completely different arguments confirms everything I thought of you; be better, honestly.
Not the original poster but you are pathetic for equating the two arguments, just stop.
Recognizing transfers are a part of the game and allowing men in women’s sports are two different Convos, shame on you
Did I read correctly that Duke is bringing SEVEN grad transfers with very little accolade or playing time among them? Why not hit the portal?
Watching CN in AU is so frustrating-she has no clue how to pass the ball
Duke obviously hit the portal if they have grabbed 7 grad transfers
Where is the uproar? BC brings in 4 transfers, people lose their minds; Duke brings in 7, crickets?
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Where is the uproar? BC brings in 4 transfers, people lose their minds; Duke brings in 7, crickets?

Who’s losing their minds? Just makes it more fun to root against both. Not that deep
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the uproar? BC brings in 4 transfers, people lose their minds; Duke brings in 7, crickets?

Who’s losing their minds? Just makes it more fun to root against both. Not that deep
I'm confused, it was OK when UNC did they and went on to win the Championship?? Everyone wants to bash the other teams for doing the same thing? Please explain?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the uproar? BC brings in 4 transfers, people lose their minds; Duke brings in 7, crickets?

Who’s losing their minds? Just makes it more fun to root against both. Not that deep
I'm confused, it was OK when UNC did they and went on to win the Championship?? Everyone wants to bash the other teams for doing the same thing? Please explain?

Whatever happened to doing a good job of recruiting and developing your talent for these programs?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the uproar? BC brings in 4 transfers, people lose their minds; Duke brings in 7, crickets?

Who’s losing their minds? Just makes it more fun to root against both. Not that deep
I'm confused, it was OK when UNC did they and went on to win the Championship?? Everyone wants to bash the other teams for doing the same thing? Please explain?

Whatever happened to doing a good job of recruiting and developing your talent for these programs?


The Grad Transfer ruined this along due to the Covid 5 year eligibility. I'm sure we will now see more red shirts for extra year of eligibility to stack some of these teams. Secondly if you read all of your posts, you're LAX SNOBS. You want to see development, look to the "Lower" level teams and see whose moving up based on their recruiting and developing in house talent. You don't put any credence into players abilities unless they are in a top ten team.
Will be a long interesting to see what freshman get meaningful playing time this year with all of the shenanigans. Heard there will be special practice groups were sideline cellys will be the focus. Sad for these girls who will have to sit out and miss a year or more out doe to all the nonsense going on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will be a long interesting to see what freshman get meaningful playing time this year with all of the shenanigans. Heard there will be special practice groups were sideline cellys will be the focus. Sad for these girls who will have to sit out and miss a year or more out doe to all the nonsense going on.
In my opinion, the girls that chose to go to these "top" teams have to know that their playing time will be limited on non existent due to the 5th years. It's something they will have to deal with. I know when my daughter was being recruited by a tip 5 team, they flat out told her the chances seeing the filed in her position was slim - she chose to go elsewhere. It's about what your daughter wants - sit on the bench of a "top" team or play for a "lower" team. The post above calling parents "lax snobs" his head on!
COVID year BS has been going on now for years. Fifth and 6th year (COVID plus a redshirt) women taking spots and playing time away from younger players everywhere - especially at high end lacrosse schools. One of the worst decisions (and that is saying something) the NCAA ever made. Thankfully, the 2023-2024 season is the end of the extra COVID year. The HS grad classes of 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020 were all progressively hosed. The 2020s, in particular didn't even have a final HS senior season.
According to IL, UNC has no grad transfers. Duke has two. Is that correct?
If you daughter went through the covid years then you would understand they deserve another year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will be a long interesting to see what freshman get meaningful playing time this year with all of the shenanigans. Heard there will be special practice groups were sideline cellys will be the focus. Sad for these girls who will have to sit out and miss a year or more out doe to all the nonsense going on.
In my opinion, the girls that chose to go to these "top" teams have to know that their playing time will be limited on non existent due to the 5th years. It's something they will have to deal with. I know when my daughter was being recruited by a tip 5 team, they flat out told her the chances seeing the filed in her position was slim - she chose to go elsewhere. It's about what your daughter wants - sit on the bench of a "top" team or play for a "lower" team. The post above calling parents "lax snobs" his head on!

Seems many unhappy players not seeing playing time at top schools, end up transferring to Clemson since they started their program. Suppose they see it as a start-up team and a wide-open opportunity to earn a spot on the field? Hearing mixed reviews on the greener grass down there lacosse-wise. Otherwise it sounds like a fun school to attend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you daughter went through the covid years then you would understand they deserve another year.

NO!!! They absolutely do not!! Possibly the seniors, but it should have ended there. I had a senior, and believe it would have been best to just let it go. This whole thing has been a disaster!! Sometimes thing happens in life that don’t need to be fixed. Just move on. What about the kids who were seniors in HS?? For most of them it would have been their last chance to play since they weren’t playing in college. Nobody “fixed” that. They did not get an extra year. They moved on and are fine. This whole thing is ridiculous!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you daughter went through the covid years then you would understand they deserve another year.


The NCAA should have only given the covid year to true seniors. But they gave it to every class so here we are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
COVID year BS has been going on now for years. Fifth and 6th year (COVID plus a redshirt) women taking spots and playing time away from younger players everywhere - especially at high end lacrosse schools. One of the worst decisions (and that is saying something) the NCAA ever made. Thankfully, the 2023-2024 season is the end of the extra COVID year. The HS grad classes of 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020 were all progressively hosed. The 2020s, in particular didn't even have a final HS senior season.


Taking spots , really. Whatever happened to coming in, competing and earning your spot. Nothing given , everything earned. This is Division 1 Athletics we are taking about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
COVID year BS has been going on now for years. Fifth and 6th year (COVID plus a redshirt) women taking spots and playing time away from younger players everywhere - especially at high end lacrosse schools. One of the worst decisions (and that is saying something) the NCAA ever made. Thankfully, the 2023-2024 season is the end of the extra COVID year. The HS grad classes of 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020 were all progressively hosed. The 2020s, in particular didn't even have a final HS senior season.


Taking spots , really. Whatever happened to coming in, competing and earning your spot. Nothing given , everything earned. This is Division 1 Athletics we are taking about.

Only so many girls can be on the field. If someone transfers in, especially an experienced player, yes they will most likely be taking spots. Not right, and could have been avoided if the NCAA wasn’t so incompetent
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you daughter went through the covid years then you would understand they deserve another year.
all the high school players who lost a year to Covid didn't get another year. the only college players who should have received an extra year were the seniors on 2020
The ncaa should have given everyone the year w the caveat being if you take the year it had to be at the school where it occurred.
apples and oranges
Parents complaining about thr transfers and No playing time are the ones always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lowered ranked team. Makes me chuckle. Who is laughing now? Karma
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you daughter went through the covid years then you would understand they deserve another year.

Try having a less selfish and entitled viewpoint. All our kids missed out in different ways. Some are still missing out as athletes take the extra year they “deserve” instead of moving on now 3+ years later. It is what it is and I don’t have a problem with athletes using the extra eligibility they were granted. Especially those whose 20 season was cut short and 21 season cancelled, like ivy leaguers. But, we are seeing more cases now where it comes across as selfish and at the expense of others. Think about the 2020 hs grads - no senior hs season, no meaningful fall ball to acclimate to college level of play and bond with off campus teammates, abnormal spring season with reduced schedule and competition, 5th and 6th years filling many awards and recognition, academic awards in particular dominated by grad students. I’m not arguing 2020s should have gotten the extra year because it had to stop, but they deserve it as much as the class or two ahead of them, in most cases.
Stop making excuses for your girls and have them work hard. If they’re school brings on a transfer, good, beat her out. Stop making excuses and earn play time.
This generation is weak, it’s pathetic; now we see why.
If you don’t play, too bad, you gotta earn it!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching CN in AU is so frustrating-she has no clue how to pass the ball
Duke obviously hit the portal if they have grabbed 7 grad transfers

CN pass the ball? That’s not her specialty!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you daughter went through the covid years then you would understand they deserve another year.
all the high school players who lost a year to Covid didn't get another year. the only college players who should have received an extra year were the seniors on 2020

100%.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents complaining about thr transfers and No playing time are the ones always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lowered ranked team. Makes me chuckle. Who is laughing now? Karma

What are you talking about?

Who is "always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lower ranked team"?

Sorry, don't see it or hear it. Generally speaking, "lower ranked" teams and the players on those teams do not garner much attention on this site or anywhere else.

Not sure why you would make such a statement.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents complaining about thr transfers and No playing time are the ones always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lowered ranked team. Makes me chuckle. Who is laughing now? Karma

What are you talking about?

Who is "always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lower ranked team"?

Sorry, don't see it or hear it. Generally speaking, "lower ranked" teams and the players on those teams do not garner much attention on this site or anywhere else.

Not sure why you would make such a statement.
And you are the Lax Snob that was addressed earlier
I have no problem with the grad year transfers as they lived up to their commitment and perhaps the school they are transferring to has a grad program they are looking at . The extra covid year are fine but they should have still kept the you have 5 years to complete 4 years of playing that they used to have. Some of these 6th year players are a bit much. The reason so many are annoyed with BC is they are poaching non grad players who have not lived up to their commitment to their previous teams etc.
After this year, we will have a whole more year of grad transfers from the Ivies. Never ends!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents complaining about thr transfers and No playing time are the ones always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lowered ranked team. Makes me chuckle. Who is laughing now? Karma

What are you talking about?

Who is "always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lower ranked team"?

Sorry, don't see it or hear it. Generally speaking, "lower ranked" teams and the players on those teams do not garner much attention on this site or anywhere else.

Not sure why you would make such a statement.


Are you serious? It’s all over this site; both girls and boys forums. One example: belittling girls who choose to play at East Stroudsburg or New Paltz. Heck, probably anything below DI top 10 lol. It’s disgusting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop making excuses for your girls and have them work hard. If they’re school brings on a transfer, good, beat her out. Stop making excuses and earn play time.
This generation is weak, it’s pathetic; now we see why.
If you don’t play, too bad, you gotta earn it!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop making excuses for your girls and have them work hard. If they’re school brings on a transfer, good, beat her out. Stop making excuses and earn play time.
This generation is weak, it’s pathetic; now we see why.
If you don’t play, too bad, you gotta earn it!

**their** Maybe if you got the education you claim your daughter did you would know the difference
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents complaining about thr transfers and No playing time are the ones always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lowered ranked team. Makes me chuckle. Who is laughing now? Karma

What are you talking about?

Who is "always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lower ranked team"?

Sorry, don't see it or hear it. Generally speaking, "lower ranked" teams and the players on those teams do not garner much attention on this site or anywhere else.

Not sure why you would make such a statement.


Are you serious? It’s all over this site; both girls and boys forums. One example: belittling girls who choose to play at East Stroudsburg or New Paltz. Heck, probably anything below DI top 10 lol. It’s disgusting.

Some of you keep bringing up this nonsense but honestly I have not seen it , maybe copy and paste the offending post .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not the original poster but you are pathetic for equating the two arguments, just stop.
Recognizing transfers are a part of the game and allowing men in women’s sports are two different Convos, shame on you

My fault did not realize you have a learning disability. Hope it all works out for you and your family .
People argue that transferring is selfish and not a team player all so they can win a championship. Well, isn’t that what the Sienna COACH just do? In the article it states she can’t wait to compete for a National Championship. She just deserted her whole team to be an asset coach at Cuse. Also, think KK leaving was strange and quiet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People argue that transferring is selfish and not a team player all so they can win a championship. Well, isn’t that what the Sienna COACH just do? In the article it states she can’t wait to compete for a National Championship. She just deserted her whole team to be an asset coach at Cuse. Also, think KK leaving was strange and quiet?
yeah, that was a BS move by the Sienna coach. Leaving just as her team is coming back to school for the year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People argue that transferring is selfish and not a team player all so they can win a championship. Well, isn’t that what the Sienna COACH just do? In the article it states she can’t wait to compete for a National Championship. She just deserted her whole team to be an asset coach at Cuse. Also, think KK leaving was strange and quiet?


KK didn't like Syracuse in terms of the city not school. If you have been to Syracuse you can understand. No detest to cuse but she's from Boston there is a big difference.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents complaining about thr transfers and No playing time are the ones always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lowered ranked team. Makes me chuckle. Who is laughing now? Karma

What are you talking about?

Who is "always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lower ranked team"?

Sorry, don't see it or hear it. Generally speaking, "lower ranked" teams and the players on those teams do not garner much attention on this site or anywhere else.

Not sure why you would make such a statement.


Are you serious? It’s all over this site; both girls and boys forums. One example: belittling girls who choose to play at East Stroudsburg or New Paltz. Heck, probably anything below DI top 10 lol. It’s disgusting.

Some of you keep bringing up this nonsense but honestly I have not seen it , maybe copy and paste the offending post .

Agree, have not seen many (if any) posts bashing lower ranked teams or the players who play for lower ranked teams. Unless of course you consider Maryland, Duke, Stanford, Notre Dame etc... "Lower ranked teams".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents complaining about thr transfers and No playing time are the ones always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lowered ranked team. Makes me chuckle. Who is laughing now? Karma

What are you talking about?

Who is "always bashing parents and kids for settling on a lower ranked team"?

Sorry, don't see it or hear it. Generally speaking, "lower ranked" teams and the players on those teams do not garner much attention on this site or anywhere else.

Not sure why you would make such a statement.
And you are the Lax Snob that was addressed earlier

I will ask again... What are you talking about?

I do not know if I am a "Lax Snob" or not and I have no idea what you mean by "addressed earlier".

I asked a simple question because I do not recall seeing any posts bashing lower ranked teams or the players who play for those teams. It is certainly not "always happening".

It appears that you and or the original poster (if not you) have an inferiority complex.
Inferiority complex? You must have a reading comprehension problem. Go read the 2027 pages for one example. You can’t have an opinion….people bash what team a kid plays on, the HS team they play for, and the college they choose. Keyboard cowboys on here.
You may not be a lax snob, but you are insufferable.
If your daughter was beaten out for a spot by a transfer, get over it. Have her hit the wall and get better.
You people are soft and your daughters are soft.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People argue that transferring is selfish and not a team player all so they can win a championship. Well, isn’t that what the Sienna COACH just do? In the article it states she can’t wait to compete for a National Championship. She just deserted her whole team to be an asset coach at Cuse. Also, think KK leaving was strange and quiet?


KK didn't like Syracuse in terms of the city not school. If you have been to Syracuse you can understand. No detest to cuse but she's from Boston there is a big difference.
You really think she left a top 5 school because she didn’t like the City? Seems strange considering there’s been no mention of taking another position. I also think it’s strange that no players commented on the new hiring?
KK is at Harvard to be closer to her family.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
KK is at Harvard to be closer to her family.
She was the AC at Harvard back in 2020.
I'm sick of the complaining about transfers and using the term ring chasers as an insult. These girls are jumping up to better/higher ranked teams. If they can compete at a higher level/team, then I applaud them for betting on themself! Leaving close friends and going into a new situation is extremely difficult takes guts. These girls were probably "under recruited", worked harder than most to continue to improve or just wanted to get on the field freshman or sophomore year.
I commend any girl going to a top tier lacrosse program, but the goal is a national championship. The coach is always looking to improve the team and that is her job! That is known going into any division 1 program, especially the top tier. Having to earn your playing time never ends for the entire 4 years.

Rathigan for Northwesterm should be praised for being overlooked during recruiting and earning herself a ring!. How are coaches supposed to be perfect projecting how good a 15 year old will be in college, plenty of mistakes are made. A girl that continues to work and be a terrific 19 year old that can play at the highest level should not be held down.
There is no room on this forum for rational thought; how dare you sir/madam!
#nailedit
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to IL, UNC has no grad transfers. Duke has two. Is that correct?
UNC has no grad transfers. They will be getting one transfer in the fall and that's Ashley Humphrey formerly of Stanford.
[quote=Anonymous]I'm sick of the complaining about transfers and using the term ring chasers as an insult. These girls are jumping up to better/higher ranked teams. If they can compete at a higher level/team, then I applaud them for betting on themself! Leaving close friends and going into a new situation is extremely difficult takes guts. These girls were probably "under recruited", worked harder than most to continue to improve or just wanted to get on the field freshman or sophomore year.
I commend any girl going to a top tier lacrosse program, but the goal is a national championship. The coach is always looking to improve the team and that is her job! That is known going into any division 1 program, especially the top tier. Having to earn your playing time never ends for the entire 4 years.

Rathigan for Northwesterm should be praised for being overlooked during recruiting and earning herself a ring!. How are coaches supposed to be perfect projecting how good a 15 year old will be in college, plenty of mistakes are made. A girl that continues to work and be a terrific 19 year old that can play at the highest level should not be held down.[/quote

Ridiculous , so they used some lesser program to "get on the field freshman or sophomore year" . In other words they used a program , took playing time from kids who wanted to be at the program , most likely deceived the coach of said program if their intent was to transfer out after getting some experience, but that should be praised.
" under recruited" when talking about the BC transfers is just ignorant of the facts.
I guess sticking to ones commitment when the going gets difficult is not admiral anymore. I honestly get transferring for a multitude of reasons but winning a championship being the only reason is lame, if you believe in your abilities that much then make the team you are on better .Joining a team that will win without you and winning will be less rewarding than winning with a team that needs you and who you have already been thru the lows with.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sick of the complaining about transfers and using the term ring chasers as an insult. These girls are jumping up to better/higher ranked teams. If they can compete at a higher level/team, then I applaud them for betting on themself! Leaving close friends and going into a new situation is extremely difficult takes guts. These girls were probably "under recruited", worked harder than most to continue to improve or just wanted to get on the field freshman or sophomore year.
I commend any girl going to a top tier lacrosse program, but the goal is a national championship. The coach is always looking to improve the team and that is her job! That is known going into any division 1 program, especially the top tier. Having to earn your playing time never ends for the entire 4 years.

Rathigan for Northwesterm should be praised for being overlooked during recruiting and earning herself a ring!. How are coaches supposed to be perfect projecting how good a 15 year old will be in college, plenty of mistakes are made. A girl that continues to work and be a terrific 19 year old that can play at the highest level should not be held down.

The thing is, they were not ‘held down’ , they contributed positively to the good teams they were on, and most importantly were team leaders and starters. Going somewhere else as a grad student, especially an Ivy grad since they can’t play at their school anymore is fine, for the others it shows a lack of character. Why do you think they were under recruited? So you’re putting other schools down now? There are many reasons why girls pick schools, and I detest to break it to you, but lacrosse isn’t everyone’s #1 priority. Honor your commitment and stop searching for the next best thing, which in many cases is not.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sick of the complaining about transfers and using the term ring chasers as an insult. These girls are jumping up to better/higher ranked teams. If they can compete at a higher level/team, then I applaud them for betting on themself! Leaving close friends and going into a new situation is extremely difficult takes guts. These girls were probably "under recruited", worked harder than most to continue to improve or just wanted to get on the field freshman or sophomore year.
I commend any girl going to a top tier lacrosse program, but the goal is a national championship. The coach is always looking to improve the team and that is her job! That is known going into any division 1 program, especially the top tier. Having to earn your playing time never ends for the entire 4 years.

Rathigan for Northwesterm should be praised for being overlooked during recruiting and earning herself a ring!. How are coaches supposed to be perfect projecting how good a 15 year old will be in college, plenty of mistakes are made. A girl that continues to work and be a terrific 19 year old that can play at the highest level should not be held down.

Are you referring to the girls that went to BC? According to IL they were the #4 and #10 girls ranked in the 2021 class. They were under recruited to Florida and UVA?
None of you have any idea why these young ladies chose to leave their current program yet it doesnt stop you from conjecturing. You use words like integrity but disparage young athletes for their “selfish decisions” on an anonymous forum. Classic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I'm sick of the complaining about transfers and using the term ring chasers as an insult. These girls are jumping up to better/higher ranked teams. If they can compete at a higher level/team, then I applaud them for betting on themself! Leaving close friends and going into a new situation is extremely difficult takes guts. These girls were probably "under recruited", worked harder than most to continue to improve or just wanted to get on the field freshman or sophomore year.
I commend any girl going to a top tier lacrosse program, but the goal is a national championship. The coach is always looking to improve the team and that is her job! That is known going into any division 1 program, especially the top tier. Having to earn your playing time never ends for the entire 4 years.

Rathigan for Northwesterm should be praised for being overlooked during recruiting and earning herself a ring!. How are coaches supposed to be perfect projecting how good a 15 year old will be in college, plenty of mistakes are made. A girl that continues to work and be a terrific 19 year old that can play at the highest level should not be held down.[/quote

Ridiculous , so they used some lesser program to "get on the field freshman or sophomore year" . In other words they used a program , took playing time from kids who wanted to be at the program , most likely deceived the coach of said program if their intent was to transfer out after getting some experience, but that should be praised.
" under recruited" when talking about the BC transfers is just ignorant of the facts.
I guess sticking to ones commitment when the going gets difficult is not admiral anymore. I honestly get transferring for a multitude of reasons but winning a championship being the only reason is lame, if you believe in your abilities that much then make the team you are on better .Joining a team that will win without you and winning will be less rewarding than winning with a team that needs you and who you have already been thru the lows with.
Again, a COACH just up and left her team for the above "winning a championship" - in her words in the article. WHY is there not an uproar over this? Ratigan took her 5th year at Northwestern. Seriously, now they are "using a program to better themselves to transfer"? Come on, it sounds to me like these girls are damned if they do and damned if they dont. At the end of the day, it their choice on how they want their lax experience to go in College. Move on. If it directly effects your daughter - oh well - figure out how to fix it without going on here and trying to disparage other players.
It's just amazing how coaches are allowed to leave for a better school, situation, salary and job. Yet, the girls are looked down on for moving on to a better environment. I guess those are the posters that have a gold watch for 25+ years working at the same company? I respect staying in one place because that's what I did, but the arrogance is what's so surprising. You don't have to agree with it, but the job world is the same as the college world. Mobility is now the norm, get used to it.
Many lacrosse parents simply can not keep quiet or handle when other players appear to be doing better than, are receiving more attention/recognition/accolades... etc.., attending a better academic school, attending a better lacrosse school, transferring to a better school/lacrosse program or whatever than their daughter.

The statements, attacks, backhanded knocks etc... would be considered funny if they were not so sad. The majority of the negative nonsense posted is rooted in jealousy, bitterness, envy etc...

Some obviously believe that they will elevate their daughters status by knocking others. News flash, it doesn't work.

Worry about your own children.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many lacrosse parents simply can not keep quiet or handle when other players appear to be doing better than, are receiving more attention/recognition/accolades... etc.., attending a better academic school, attending a better lacrosse school, transferring to a better school/lacrosse program or whatever than their daughter.

The statements, attacks, backhanded knocks etc... would be considered funny if they were not so sad. The majority of the negative nonsense posted is rooted in jealousy, bitterness, envy etc...

Some obviously believe that they will elevate their daughters status by knocking others. News flash, it doesn't work.

Worry about your own children.

Lol, this is a discussion. This isn’t “not able to handle” what others do. My daughter is very happy at her school and would not consider transferring. And yes, she is an excellent player who could if she wanted to. It is the opinion of some, that transferring shows a lack of character. Unless there was some type of abuse, it is the opinion of many people that it a weak move. Not jealous, bitter, etc, just a person who has taught my children to honor their word and commitment. To each their own
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many lacrosse parents simply can not keep quiet or handle when other players appear to be doing better than, are receiving more attention/recognition/accolades... etc.., attending a better academic school, attending a better lacrosse school, transferring to a better school/lacrosse program or whatever than their daughter.

The statements, attacks, backhanded knocks etc... would be considered funny if they were not so sad. The majority of the negative nonsense posted is rooted in jealousy, bitterness, envy etc...

Some obviously believe that they will elevate their daughters status by knocking others. News flash, it doesn't work.

Worry about your own children.

Lol, this is a discussion. This isn’t “not able to handle” what others do. My daughter is very happy at her school and would not consider transferring. And yes, she is an excellent player who could if she wanted to. It is the opinion of some, that transferring shows a lack of character. Unless there was some type of abuse, it is the opinion of many people that it a weak move. Not jealous, bitter, etc, just a person who has taught my children to honor their word and commitment. To each their own
I'm guessing that the majority of negative posts regarding transfers, 5th/6th year, recruiting, level of play, playing time, rankings, etc... are from people who never competed at the college level or beyond. Certainly not at a competitive level.

There are two aspects that are new (the transfer portal and the covid year). Everything else is pretty much the same as it has always been. Players (and non athlete students) have been transferring for a very long time (in all sports) this is not new. Many players (maybe most) will not get meaningful playing time at the college level (especially at competitive programs). There are many factors that contribute to how a player performs when competing a competitive/high level. Coaching, other players on the team, team philosophy/strategies/tactics/schemes, position, role etc... There is also at times a big difference between what the coaches see and what fans/parents see in terms of performance.
The four (or 5 or 6 ha ha) of lax and college should be an amazing experience for these girls. One they will never get back. They worked so hard for so long - to condemn these girls to being miserable for their entire college careers for a choice they made in high school with incredibly limited information is fool. Let them find a place they can have FUN.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many lacrosse parents simply can not keep quiet or handle when other players appear to be doing better than, are receiving more attention/recognition/accolades... etc.., attending a better academic school, attending a better lacrosse school, transferring to a better school/lacrosse program or whatever than their daughter.

The statements, attacks, backhanded knocks etc... would be considered funny if they were not so sad. The majority of the negative nonsense posted is rooted in jealousy, bitterness, envy etc...

Some obviously believe that they will elevate their daughters status by knocking others. News flash, it doesn't work.

Worry about your own children.

Lol, this is a discussion. This isn’t “not able to handle” what others do. My daughter is very happy at her school and would not consider transferring. And yes, she is an excellent player who could if she wanted to. It is the opinion of some, that transferring shows a lack of character. Unless there was some type of abuse, it is the opinion of many people that it a weak move. Not jealous, bitter, etc, just a person who has taught my children to honor their word and commitment. To each their own

Thank you for bringing your daughter into the discussion and for letting us all know how very happy she is and that she is such an excellent player who would be sort after if she entered the portal. hammerhead.

Just curious, if your daughter was not happy for some reason would you encourage her to [Censored] it up and be unhappy?

You attack young women by saying that they are weak and lack character if they choose to improve their personal situation. You puff up and pound your chest while telling us how you taught your daughter to honor her word and her commitment in an attempt to imply that others have not taught their children to honor their word and commitment. Then to top it all off you say: "To each their own".

Good grief.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The four (or 5 or 6 ha ha) of lax and college should be an amazing experience for these girls. One they will never get back. They worked so hard for so long - to condemn these girls to being miserable for their entire college careers for a choice they made in high school with incredibly limited information is fool. Let them find a place they can have FUN.

Exactly!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm guessing that the majority of negative posts regarding transfers, 5th/6th year, recruiting, level of play, playing time, rankings, etc... are from people who never competed at the college level or beyond. Certainly not at a competitive level.

There are two aspects that are new (the transfer portal and the covid year). Everything else is pretty much the same as it has always been. Players (and non athlete students) have been transferring for a very long time (in all sports) this is not new. Many players (maybe most) will not get meaningful playing time at the college level (especially at competitive programs). There are many factors that contribute to how a player performs when competing a competitive/high level. Coaching, other players on the team, team philosophy/strategies/tactics/schemes, position, role etc... There is also at times a big difference between what the coaches see and what fans/parents see in terms of performance.

To ask an 18 year old girl to compete with a 22/23 year old woman is not a fair fight. It's not about a soft generation, kids not being willing to compete and wait their turn, not hitting the wall enough, or having unrealistic parents. It's about a system where too many kids who want to stay at one school for 4 years are not getting a chance to play.
So you’re suggesting that people’s opinions of transfers lacking character isn’t offensive because it’s an opinion!?!
I’m glad your daughter did well and stayed, good for her. Maybe she is as good as you say she is, maybe she isn’t…I don’t care. Nor should you judge other young ladies for the decision they make with their life. It’s that simple.
Opining that these young ladies “aren’t true to their word” is comical, especially in this sport. Kids leave programs constantly, professional athletes discuss “chasing that ring” all the time, yet these young ladies are demonized for making similar decisions…
You may think you’re not the problem, but you are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many lacrosse parents simply can not keep quiet or handle when other players appear to be doing better than, are receiving more attention/recognition/accolades... etc.., attending a better academic school, attending a better lacrosse school, transferring to a better school/lacrosse program or whatever than their daughter.

The statements, attacks, backhanded knocks etc... would be considered funny if they were not so sad. The majority of the negative nonsense posted is rooted in jealousy, bitterness, envy etc...

Some obviously believe that they will elevate their daughters status by knocking others. News flash, it doesn't work.

Worry about your own children.

Lol, this is a discussion. This isn’t “not able to handle” what others do. My daughter is very happy at her school and would not consider transferring. And yes, she is an excellent player who could if she wanted to. It is the opinion of some, that transferring shows a lack of character. Unless there was some type of abuse, it is the opinion of many people that it a weak move. Not jealous, bitter, etc, just a person who has taught my children to honor their word and commitment. To each their own

Thank you for bringing your daughter into the discussion and for letting us all know how very happy she is and that she is such an excellent player who would be sort after if she entered the portal. hammerhead.

Just curious, if your daughter was not happy for some reason would you encourage her to [Censored] it up and be unhappy?

You attack young women by saying that they are weak and lack character if they choose to improve their personal situation. You puff up and pound your chest while telling us how you taught your daughter to honor her word and her commitment in an attempt to imply that others have not taught their children to honor their word and commitment. Then to top it all off you say: "To each their own".

Good grief.


Who’s attacking??? You and/or your daughter must be feeling some serious anxiety and guilt to lash out at someone for having an opinion. Wow! How about you just accept that people are entitled to their opinion and personal values.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many lacrosse parents simply can not keep quiet or handle when other players appear to be doing better than, are receiving more attention/recognition/accolades... etc.., attending a better academic school, attending a better lacrosse school, transferring to a better school/lacrosse program or whatever than their daughter.

The statements, attacks, backhanded knocks etc... would be considered funny if they were not so sad. The majority of the negative nonsense posted is rooted in jealousy, bitterness, envy etc...

Some obviously believe that they will elevate their daughters status by knocking others. News flash, it doesn't work.

Worry about your own children.

Lol, this is a discussion. This isn’t “not able to handle” what others do. My daughter is very happy at her school and would not consider transferring. And yes, she is an excellent player who could if she wanted to. It is the opinion of some, that transferring shows a lack of character. Unless there was some type of abuse, it is the opinion of many people that it a weak move. Not jealous, bitter, etc, just a person who has taught my children to honor their word and commitment. To each their own

Thank you for bringing your daughter into the discussion and for letting us all know how very happy she is and that she is such an excellent player who would be sort after if she entered the portal. hammerhead.

Just curious, if your daughter was not happy for some reason would you encourage her to [Censored] it up and be unhappy?

You attack young women by saying that they are weak and lack character if they choose to improve their personal situation. You puff up and pound your chest while telling us how you taught your daughter to honor her word and her commitment in an attempt to imply that others have not taught their children to honor their word and commitment. Then to top it all off you say: "To each their own".

Good grief.


Who’s attacking??? You and/or your daughter must be feeling some serious anxiety and guilt to lash out at someone for having an opinion. Wow! How about you just accept that people are entitled to their opinion and personal values.

If you were the author of the post that stated: "transferring shows a lack of character" and "it is a weak move" then you are the one attacking.

Nobody expects you to reflect on your own statements because simple people are usually not self aware and they are rarely open to new views, ideas or concepts.

As one of the other post points out, you end your post with "to each their own" but your attitude is that people who have a different opinion than you "lack character and are weak". If you can not recognize that you are attacking all of the young women who choose to change their situation for whatever reason than you are most likely not very bright.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's just amazing how coaches are allowed to leave for a better school, situation, salary and job. Yet, the girls are looked down on for moving on to a better environment. I guess those are the posters that have a gold watch for 25+ years working at the same company? I respect staying in one place because that's what I did, but the arrogance is what's so surprising. You don't have to agree with it, but the job world is the same as the college world. Mobility is now the norm, get used to it.

Do you even believe yourself ? Using the word environment tells me you do not. They left to join a team that can get them a national championship ,end of story.
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!
This^
Is it worth it/necessary to have a recruitment post on Inside Lacrosse? We use Sports Recruit but wonder if we should do both? Can you recommend anywhere else?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it worth it/necessary to have a recruitment post on Inside Lacrosse? We use Sports Recruit but wonder if we should do both? Can you recommend anywhere else?

IWLCA Sports Recruits is the top choice for finding athletes. Inside Lacrosse profiles probably don't help in the grand scheme of things, but they are nice when it comes to commitments and seeing where players are going. The IL page takes about 3-4 minutes to complete and it probably doesn't hurt. If your daughter plays at ILWomen's ID Experience, they 100% will create a profile for her.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why bring up "The AU Professional League"? Do you actually believe that playing in that league is the goal for most young female lacrosse players? Full disclosure, I do not know much about the pro league but I do not think most young players are thinking about it when they are deciding where to attend college. How many players are actually in the league? No many, I suspect. I am going to guess that there are less than 100 players competing and that the majority of those players are currently coaching / teaching at the college level or HS level, are attending graduate school, or are still not sure of the career path they would like to pursue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Wait...you don't like watching Charlotte North nearly kill defenders with her dangerous shots?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Great job growing the game there sport. Glad your kid is in lax for no reason at all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Wait...you don't like watching Charlotte North nearly kill defenders with her dangerous shots?

No. She plays thug ball. Somehow she gets away with things other girls would be called for. She plays lacrosse exactly how girls are taught not to play like.Not a fan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Yeah. Two daughters spaced three years apart. First already in college and done with AU. Second who probably commits by October this year didn’t watch a second of it. After watching every game last year. She watched some college games during the summer recorded on you tube and espn plus for teams she is interested. Have to agree. Also heard even the few there get paid peanuts. So maybe something to your coaching thing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!
Facts are facts. UNC and then everyone else
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants
In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.
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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.
Some "Caliber" schools didn't have good team grades to make "All Academic" yet you applaud those schools for their lacrosse. So which is it? Lacrosse or Academics. If both Stony Brook hasn't made the academic cut in the last few years....
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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.

Lol, it is extremely rare for an IVY student to be a slacker. I have a IVY kid and team culture is that of success on and off the field. There are no “slackers” on his team. I am also very good friends with several other IVY/top 20 school families who say the same. You clearly know nothing, but that’s okay. It takes all types to make the world go around. I gave you advice from personal experience. My oldest is fine but has had to work ten times harder to reach the same goals as a top 10 grad. Like I stated before, with all other factors equal (major, gpa), the IVY grad has a huge advantage. Of course there are exceptions, but why not put your child in the best possible position to be successful? That shouldn’t be too hard to understand
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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.

Lol, it is extremely rare for an IVY student to be a slacker. I have a IVY kid and team culture is that of success on and off the field. There are no “slackers” on his team. I am also very good friends with several other IVY/top 20 school families who say the same. You clearly know nothing, but that’s okay. It takes all types to make the world go around. I gave you advice from personal experience. My oldest is fine but has had to work ten times harder to reach the same goals as a top 10 grad. Like I stated before, with all other factors equal (major, gpa), the IVY grad has a huge advantage. Of course there are exceptions, but why not put your child in the best possible position to be successful? That shouldn’t be too hard to understand

“”””””” That shouldn’t be too hard to understand””””””

Ha.. Ha…. You must be new to this … 🤣
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All this back and forth is entertaining. End of the day, lacrosse ends after college. The AU “professional” league is a joke and will soon fold. Nobody cares and why would you want to share a room for weeks for barely any money when you could have a real job. I know we all love lacrosse, but c’mon, use it to go to the best possible school and get a great job. The smartest girls use lacrosse for this purpose. Selling your soul to these top 5 lacrosse programs where the coach could basically care less about you 90% of the time when you could have gotten a much better degree elsewhere is just silly. They are using you! Be smart and use them to get into a school you would never had a chance to attend. This opens doors. Those girls are the real winners!

Why do you assume that the players at the Top programs are not going to get a great job or a degree from a great school?

Why do you assume that the coaches at less competitive programs care more about their players?

Why do you say "sell your soul" when talking about the players at the competitive programs?

Why do you assume that players from less competitive programs will earn a much better degree?

Why do you assume that the players at the most competitive programs did not use lacrosse to get into the best school possible?

Why do you assume that all of the players from the strongest programs all choose to play in the AU Pro League?

In no particular order: Best Programs over the past 5 - 10 years.

Top 5 Caliber Programs
- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse

Top 10 Caliber Programs
- JMU
- Folrida
- Stony Brook
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Penn
- Loyola

Top 20 Caliber Programs
- Denver
- Stanford
- Duke
- Penn State
- USC
- Umass
- Colorado
- Navy
- Hopkins

I'm sure there are 2 or 3 other programs that could be listed as well but the above programs seem to be the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 20 in the past 5 - 10 years.

The above are all good schools. It is possible to have both a good academic school as well as a good lacrosse program.

The views expressed in your post are one sided and narrow.


I agree with your top 5 lax schools, the rest of the list is interchangeable any given year, no real difference between let’s say a Penn State and a Princeton or a Penn and a UMass, except with one you get a highly selective top 10 school degree, the other you don’t. You may not think that matters but it absolutely does in the job search. Big degree =Big job. And I stand by my statement that AU is complete joke. Only ladies who play are looking for coaching careers. I love college lacrosse, but the “professional” game is unwatchable. Once you graduate college, lacrosse is over, move on

Did you even read their post?

The post that you are responding to clearly says "in no particular order" when referencing the best programs over the past several years. A bit redundant to state "the list is interchangeable" don't you think?

Why do you care if some enjoy playing in the AU Pro league? Why is it a "Joke"? Why are you trying to knock the women who want to continue playing? Why does lacrosse have to end when kids graduate? Considering we are talking about a relatively very small number of players, why do you care?

My guess is that you are trying to indirectly belittle a particular player or players for some reason (we can all speculate as to why). Why else would you be focusing on tearing down the league and the women who compete in the league? Most of the players who are lucky enough to have the opportunity to play in the league would play for free. Do you also condemn adults who play tennis or golf? How about those who ski, jog, run, lift, etc..., do you knock them as well? Should they all move on? We will not hold our breath waiting for answer since you didn't answer any of the questions asked in the other post. Instead of answering, you just popped off with nonsense while trying to bash young women for doing what they love (and for being really great at it).

As far as academics go, all of the schools listed above are good schools and if the student athlete does well in the classroom they will all find a good/great job to start their career. Oh yeah, maybe, just maybe that career will involve coaching.

Congratulations to all of the women who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to continue playing the game that they love.

Green is such an ugly color at times.


You clearly are a little limited, lol

1. AU will fold and is an embarrassment compared to PLL in the way they treat the athletes. Nobody in their right mind would be involved unless their career is in coaching. Girls going o top academic schools are starting in their new jobs at 120k plus. Think about what you’re saying! Professional athletes who play tennis, golf or ski actually have an opportunity make real money. You did know that I would think.

2. READ what the poster stated. They separated the schools by top 5, top 10, top 20. I disagreed. I believe the top 5 are the top 5. Only Northwestern is a top academic school in that category. None of the others are close. As for the rest of the top 30 schools, it will fluctuate from year to year, so go to the best ACADEMIC school to get a GREAT JOB! Of course, if you’re able.

3. You clearly have issues. Stop acting like a victim. Nobody is being belittled. A top 5 lacrosse school is not the same as a 10-20 lacrosse school, just like a top 5 academic school is not the same as a lower ranked school. Princeton degree is not the same as a UNC degree. Please stop!! Play lacrosse, have fun, but keep the big picture in mind!!

4. NOBODY is jealous! Stating facts!

You really love to spout things as factual when they are not. Honestly the degree from those top academic schools are not always the golden ticket all of you pompous "all that matters is going to a top ranked academic college" clowns think it is. Many grad school programs care first about your score on the grad school admissions test and GPA . I know several guys in the finance world and they strangely want to know a candidates SAT score more so than where they went to school. My state school kid had a lot more opportunities in terms of acceptance into Med school than my Ivy kid and honestly the only difference was the years in which they applied and GPA. Would never tell someone not to go to an IVY etc but acting like it opens so many more doors than the other schools regardless of every thing else is just ignorant.


Umm… most of the top universities do not even require SATs anymore. Keep telling yourself that a UNC degree is as good as a Princeton degree (many schools interchangeable there). My oldest graduated from a top 50 school with a business degree and excellent gpa. He has a good job, but his friends with the same degree that went to Duke, Penn, Yale, Harvard all have great jobs and make quite a bit more. I encouraged my younger children to go for the degree. They have gotten much better internships that have led to job offers. College goes quick, use it to set yourself up for the long future ahead. I get that some want to major in lacrosse, but you can truly have both. Go for the academics first!

People have researched this question and the findings are pretty consistent...

https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-harvard-salary-public-school-ivy-league-2023-7?amp

"...it's the quality of the student — more than their school — that is more predictive of their future earnings."

If a student is a high achiever, they will succeed no matter where they go.


Big “IF”..… but all things the same, the top 10 college grad has a huge edge. There is a reason these schools only accept 5% of the applicants

You really are dense, If your IVY student is a slacker academically who used lacrosse to get into the school they will not go far . The poster hands you an article that did the research but you know better because your oldest is not doing as well as you had hoped. Princeton would cost 80k a year for my kids they would have been better saving the 360 k and learning a trade than attending . It really depends on what you want to do for a career , most people have no idea where their MD, Accountant , DDS, Attorney etc went to undergrad. Your reply to the post about the article is nonsensical.

Lol, it is extremely rare for an IVY student to be a slacker. I have a IVY kid and team culture is that of success on and off the field. There are no “slackers” on his team. I am also very good friends with several other IVY/top 20 school families who say the same. You clearly know nothing, but that’s okay. It takes all types to make the world go around. I gave you advice from personal experience. My oldest is fine but has had to work ten times harder to reach the same goals as a top 10 grad. Like I stated before, with all other factors equal (major, gpa), the IVY grad has a huge advantage. Of course there are exceptions, but why not put your child in the best possible position to be successful? That shouldn’t be too hard to understand

“”””””” That shouldn’t be too hard to understand””””””

Ha.. Ha…. You must be new to this … 🤣
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some "Caliber" schools didn't have good team grades to make "All Academic" yet you applaud those schools for their lacrosse. So which is it? Lacrosse or Academics. If both Stony Brook hasn't made the academic cut in the last few years....

Gibberish.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.

I'm pretty darn happy, but I'm always interested in how all of your comments are always so negative. It sounds like you may be projecting.

Not everyone wants to be the same things when they "grow up."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.

I'm pretty darn happy, but I'm always interested in how all of your comments are always so negative. It sounds like you may be projecting.

Not everyone wants to be the same things when they "grow up."

Actions speak louder than words, you went out of your way to make a disparaging reply to a post that was not offensive to anyone. You are what you are and I am sure everyone knows what that is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

Very typical, someone posts something relevant and informative without attacking any player, program, university etc... and some low life comes on with a snide comment.

Looks like your soul has already been [Censored] out. Sorry life has treated you so poorly that you feel the need to lash out without provocation. Hopefully things will improve for you.

I'm pretty darn happy, but I'm always interested in how all of your comments are always so negative. It sounds like you may be projecting.

Not everyone wants to be the same things when they "grow up."

Actions speak louder than words, you went out of your way to make a disparaging reply to a post that was not offensive to anyone. You are what you are and I am sure everyone knows what that is.

And what is that?
Do you think after the Spallina kid goes to Clemson, BOTC will put back up the 2025 forum page so parents can start connecting with each other?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you think after the Spallina kid goes to Clemson, BOTC will put back up the 2025 forum page so parents can start connecting with each other?


Seriously why is the girls 2025 page disabled? I’ve started using the fan lax forum page instead
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you think after the Spallina kid goes to Clemson, BOTC will put back up the 2025 forum page so parents can start connecting with each other?


Seriously why is the girls 2025 page disabled? I’ve started using the fan lax forum page instead

Your lucky. That page is 1000 times better
Yep. She made her decision and just like that the page is back up. Will announce after she calls all the colleges and lets them know.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In addition to the "athletic and Team sport benefits and life lessons" lacrosse is about helping our children get into the best school possible. Many of the schools listed below have Division I Lacrosse Programs and without lacrosse it would be very difficult for our children to get into them.

Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from they are known as "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school.

Not knocking or touting any schools just pointing out Many of the schools that lacrosse can help get kids into are also feeder schools into many of the most lucrative careers at some of the best companies in three particular industries.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).


Investment Banking: BOA, Barclays, Citi, Goldman Sachs, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc... Recent Grads (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: McKinsey, Bain, BCG etc.... Recent Grads (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University


Here is some additional food for thought...


These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

Link for interesting article - https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical





Tremendous opportunity for our children and lacrosse can certainly help in many ways.

All of the Ivy's, other top privates, some great public universities... city schools, suburban schools, New England, Southern, Mid Western, West Coast, Large, small, mid-size....

Great to be able to go to the "best" school but "Best" to find the "Right" school for your child.... IMHO "Best Fit" is the goal.

To each their own.

Ah yes...investment banking and consulting. Both soul sucking options.

And what professions do you deem virtuous? Please tell us all.
Go to the best school you can get into with lax as a helper! NOBODY cares about lacrosse and will not No your name a year after you graduate….but the school you go to will open doors and create opportunities. Be smart!!

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go to the best school you can get into with lax as a helper! NOBODY cares about lacrosse and will not No your name a year after you graduate….but the school you go to will open doors and create opportunities. Be smart!!

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges

Exactly!

Many of the top academic schools in the country have women's lacrosse.... Over the past several years the programs listed below have proven themselves (based on performance year in and year out) to be the strongest DI programs (maybe a few others as well). All are excellent schools (yes, I know they are not all equal) that can offer great opportunities for women's lacrosse players. When you look at the Top Academic schools many are also top lacrosse schools and without Lacrosse, most of our daughters would not be able to gain admittance. Be thankful !!

A lot of crossover between the list below, the four lists previously posted and the US News Top 20 - 25 etc...

Incredible opportunities out there for young lacrosse players.

- Maryland
- Northwestern
- North Carolina
- Boston College
- Syracuse
- JMU
- Stony Brook
- Folrida
- Virginia
- Princeton
- Notre Dame
- Loyola
- Penn
- Duke
- Denver
- Stanford
- Penn State
- Hopkins
- USC
- Colorado
- Navy
- Umass
Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.

Why go after SBU when there are many on that list ranked academically below them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.

Why go after SBU when there are many on that list ranked academically below them.

The list above is referring to top "lacrosse" programs not top "academic" schools. All of the schools above are good schools and can be a good fit and the right choice for some.

As for SBU, they jumped up a bit in the US News Rankings this year and have surpassed some of the other top lacrosse schools in terms of academic ranking but we will always find haters on here trying to knock athletes, teams, schools etc...

Some want the best academic school, some want the best lacrosse school, some want to be close to home, some want a big school, some want a small school, some want warm weather, some want a city school, some want the west coast, some want southern, some are not sure what they want...

If you are going through the recruiting process, just help your daughter find the best fit for her.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure Stony Brook and UMass belong on any top academic list, but I def see your point; take advantage of the opportunity for life beyond school/lax.

Why go after SBU when there are many on that list ranked academically below them.

The list above is referring to top "lacrosse" programs not top "academic" schools. All of the schools above are good schools and can be a good fit and the right choice for some.

As for SBU, they jumped up a bit in the US News Rankings this year and have surpassed some of the other top lacrosse schools in terms of academic ranking but we will always find haters on here trying to knock athletes, teams, schools etc...

Some want the best academic school, some want the best lacrosse school, some want to be close to home, some want a big school, some want a small school, some want warm weather, some want a city school, some want the west coast, some want southern, some are not sure what they want...

If you are going through the recruiting process, just help your daughter find the best fit for her.

That makes way too much sense remember it’s all about either the best academic school or the best lacrosse not the best fit .
Florida State adding women's lacrosse
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Florida State adding women's lacrosse

Great news!
OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.
USF grabbing another 9 kids. What the heck is their roster gonna look like in 2025. 45-50 kids. That’s insane. I’m sure kids will be jumping ship realizing they are never gonna step on the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.

Can you enlighten me what the greencard penalties in the midfield? I'm not as current with the rule changes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.

Can you enlighten me what the greencard penalties in the midfield? I'm not as current with the rule changes.

Just about anything. You touch a player green card, you enter the circle to early on the draw green card, charge green card, cross check green card, embellishing on a foul green card. The new rules have slowed the game down and made it awful to watch. D1 coaches need to demand an emergency rules committee meeting before the spring to discuss.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK now that we are in Fall Ball.....GET RID OF THE RIDICULOUS "Green Card" Penalties in the midfield.

I like the defensive off sides greencard. Go back to the old system on the ride but make it on the second foul its a greencard.

Can you enlighten me what the greencard penalties in the midfield? I'm not as current with the rule changes.

Just about anything. You touch a player green card, you enter the circle to early on the draw green card, charge green card, cross check green card, embellishing on a foul green card. The new rules have slowed the game down and made it awful to watch. D1 coaches need to demand an emergency rules committee meeting before the spring to discuss.
I believe it’s a test run & will be voted on before the Soring season. It’s awful! Green cards within seconds of a game starting, literally.
Off topic but relevant. LA 2028 has approved lacrosse, as a Sixes game, for the 2028 Olympics. Great news.
Originally Posted by baldbear
Off topic but relevant. LA 2028 has approved lacrosse, as a Sixes game, for the 2028 Olympics. Great news.

It's better than nothing. I don't understand why do a Sixes game other than to level the playing field a bit as most other countries will be far behind the US.
How is Fall Ball going? Whose looking good? Any freshman getting in? Also, what’s the deal with U20?? Why did they spilt squads into those who made it and those on bubble. Some big BC transfer did nothing will still make it? NW girls got lots of free passes as well. It’s a shame that the tryout wasn’t fair!
I would hope freshman are seeing the field during fall ball - why wouldn't they? It's fall ball!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
Off topic but relevant. LA 2028 has approved lacrosse, as a Sixes game, for the 2028 Olympics. Great news.

It's better than nothing. I don't understand why do a Sixes game other than to level the playing field a bit as most other countries will be far behind the US.

It was created in 2018 as mixture of traditional lacrosse and box lacrosse. It immediately became popular outside the US. I think that was a major reason the go Sixes as it does have an international following. It’s basically a middie game. It’s also a perfect TV sport as the games are a fast 32 minutes. It’s a bit down the road but I can’t wait to see what a US team will look like.
Originally Posted by baldbear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
Off topic but relevant. LA 2028 has approved lacrosse, as a Sixes game, for the 2028 Olympics. Great news.

It's better than nothing. I don't understand why do a Sixes game other than to level the playing field a bit as most other countries will be far behind the US.

It was created in 2018 as mixture of traditional lacrosse and box lacrosse. It immediately became popular outside the US. I think that was a major reason the go Sixes as it does have an international following. It’s basically a middie game. It’s also a perfect TV sport as the games are a fast 32 minutes. It’s a bit down the road but I can’t wait to see what a US team will look like.
Also because it helps even out the playing field. The olympic committee did not want to see team USA win every game by 15 goals in the olympics. Other countries simply don't have the depth to keep up. Sixes somehow helps mitigate that ever so slightly. Will still be a tall task to hang with USA
Only #7 for not my daughter. That’s alright. She’s gonna cook this year.
Originally Posted by Not_Belles_Mommy
Only #7 for not my daughter. That’s alright. She’s gonna cook this year.
Seriously, you need to get a life.
It was nice to see the right players get the recognition and not the politics of it way in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Not_Belles_Mommy
Only #7 for not my daughter. That’s alright. She’s gonna cook this year.
Seriously, you need to get a life.
It was nice to see the right players get the recognition and not the politics of it way in.

Why can’t you just let it go? It was five years ago when she went out with your daughters ex-boyfriend. Not my daughter will be the number 1 midfielder the next two years. I’m sorry. Is what it is.
Reminder that this 2024 Class got the S end of the stick. They had their Sr HS Year taken away by Covid. Had a horrible Freshman college experience due to Covid and has had to play against the Super Seniors their whole college career. Not to mention the transfer portal to take away additional opportunities from them. The 2025 will only have one year without all of the Grad Students except for the Red Shirts..... These 2 classes have been overshadowed...
Where can we see the latest transfer portal commits?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Reminder that this 2024 Class got the S end of the stick. They had their Sr HS Year taken away by Covid. Had a horrible Freshman college experience due to Covid and has had to play against the Super Seniors their whole college career. Not to mention the transfer portal to take away additional opportunities from them. The 2025 will only have one year without all of the Grad Students except for the Red Shirts..... These 2 classes have been overshadowed...
OK?
Hello folks! Starting a new thread for the upcoming season. Look for
“2024 DI-III Women’s Lacrosse”. Not sure why I used the two year title in the past….Happy New Year!
New page hasn't been working.....
Hello?

Heard that ‘23 number one recruit is out with broken foot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello?

Heard that ‘23 number one recruit is out with broken foot.
OK? Hope she heals quickly and smoothly if this is the case.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Reminder that this 2024 Class got the S end of the stick. They had their Sr HS Year taken away by Covid. Had a horrible Freshman college experience due to Covid and has had to play against the Super Seniors their whole college career. Not to mention the transfer portal to take away additional opportunities from them. The 2025 will only have one year without all of the Grad Students except for the Red Shirts..... These 2 classes have been overshadowed...
OK?

Totally agree. Except for the last word in your post. The last two words should be "completely screwed."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New page hasn't been working.....

Please use New 2024 Women’s DI-III thread.
Did the BC superstar forget to show up today? Best player on BC is Virginia transfer. Without her it would have been a beat down.
They’ll be okay, as they always are. Love that you came running on here to detest…
See you at the Natty! #hater
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