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Re: 2020-2021 Women's College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #312585 10/20/20 10:28 AM
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As I am sure many have heard a few Ivy league have announced NO winter sports I have a feeling that this will soon apply to spring sports as well what a complete mess this will be[/quote]

I agree. ;0(

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As I am sure many have heard a few Ivy league have announced NO winter sports I have a feeling that this will soon apply to spring sports as well what a complete mess this will be

I agree. ;0([/quote]


Agree There will not be an Ivy season maybe not one for anyone

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I’m very involved in the collegiate aspect of lacrosse. I’m also pessimistic about SUNY as I have seen how they operate with regards to collegiate sports. You can throw the budget and spreadsheets in the trash can. SUNY has a $900 million shortfall to fill and the governor has given each school a directive to cut their costs. Albany and Stony Brook have the two biggest shortfalls. They haven’t announced how they are going to cut their budgets but I have a “feeling” sports MAY be part of the process.

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Stony Brook University spent $8,210,055 on men's teams and received $3,643,116 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave male athletes $9,751 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for men's teams. On average they make $135,748. They are supported by 24 assistant coaches who earn $47,924 on average.

Stony Brook University spent $4,799,904 on women's teams and received $1,350,420 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave female athletes $11,927 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for women's teams. They make, on average, $79,794. They are supported by 15 assistant coaches who earn, on average, $32,844.

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If you are president of the university these are net-negative numbers. As a positive aside, the women are getting more funding than the men.


Good discussion. As I’m sure you read SBU will have football with a CAA schedule in the spring. Leads one to believe that CAA will have conference games. College sports ....Bottom line all lose money for their respective school. Their function is not to make money. There may/will be cutbacks. But I disagree with your initial premiss that the sky is falling and no SUNY sports for another year.












As I am sure many have heard a few Ivy league have announced NO winter sports I have a feeling that this will soon apply to spring sports as well what a complete mess this will be
Lets see what happens in the election

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Nice try. I know several college All Americans that are incredible players that applied and did not get an invite. The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA. There are always politics in sports but this is about the worse I have ever seen.

I agree that the selection is a bit off... that said, "The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA" ... I am pretty sure she was named to the Under Armour Senior Girls All-American Team.



Ohhhh. HS AA means something when they are playing in college. And there you have it. On many a threads the player bio seems to mean something. So that’s why we are where we are when it comes down to selecting UA teams and HS AA. When you distill it down, the same few (mainly 1 person) gets to stack those teams with marginal players from her team/org who then pack their player bio’s with nonsense. What garbage.

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Anonymous #312608 10/20/20 12:01 PM
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did ya ever think that some girls said No? could they have offered other girls whose lives have moved on from lacrosse the opportunity but they passed on it.. ya know like maybe job commitments, covid concerns, or maybe they're afraid they put in all the time and energy and the event gets canceled anyway?
the list is the list, good on those that made it.

Actually got a response from US lacrosse while they wouldn't respond to particular players they said ALL players had to have registered for this particular event and there was a panel of 20+ coaches that selected and rated each position. Players were picked in rank order attack was by far the most heavily populated position followed by Defense and midfielders then goalies May not believe them but at least got a legitimate response

Where did you contact US lacrosse to get this response? There is no way this was not all about Spallina pushing his agenda. The player in question's biggest accolade is UA senior AA in a season that was not played. If you are trying to justify this selection there is no possible way any reasonable person can. Sorry but US lacrosse , Levy and Spallina should be ashamed they took a spot from a deserving player so Spallina can push his agenda.

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TheBackOfTheCage #312609 10/20/20 12:03 PM
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Well looks like proud mommy. Embarrassing to be honest.

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Originally Posted by baldbear
I’m very involved in the collegiate aspect of lacrosse. I’m also pessimistic about SUNY as I have seen how they operate with regards to collegiate sports. You can throw the budget and spreadsheets in the trash can. SUNY has a $900 million shortfall to fill and the governor has given each school a directive to cut their costs. Albany and Stony Brook have the two biggest shortfalls. They haven’t announced how they are going to cut their budgets but I have a “feeling” sports MAY be part of the process.

_______________________________________________________________

Stony Brook University spent $8,210,055 on men's teams and received $3,643,116 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave male athletes $9,751 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for men's teams. On average they make $135,748. They are supported by 24 assistant coaches who earn $47,924 on average.

Stony Brook University spent $4,799,904 on women's teams and received $1,350,420 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave female athletes $11,927 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for women's teams. They make, on average, $79,794. They are supported by 15 assistant coaches who earn, on average, $32,844.

_______________________________________________________________

If you are president of the university these are net-negative numbers. As a positive aside, the women are getting more funding than the men.


Good discussion. As I’m sure you read SBU will have football with a CAA schedule in the spring. Leads one to believe that CAA will have conference games. College sports ....Bottom line all lose money for their respective school. Their function is not to make money. There may/will be cutbacks. But I disagree with your initial premiss that the sky is falling and no SUNY sports for another year.












As I am sure many have heard a few Ivy league have announced NO winter sports I have a feeling that this will soon apply to spring sports as well what a complete mess this will be
Lets see what happens in the election
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TheBackOfTheCage #312615 10/20/20 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
I’m very involved in the collegiate aspect of lacrosse. I’m also pessimistic about SUNY as I have seen how they operate with regards to collegiate sports. You can throw the budget and spreadsheets in the trash can. SUNY has a $900 million shortfall to fill and the governor has given each school a directive to cut their costs. Albany and Stony Brook have the two biggest shortfalls. They haven’t announced how they are going to cut their budgets but I have a “feeling” sports MAY be part of the process.

_______________________________________________________________

Stony Brook University spent $8,210,055 on men's teams and received $3,643,116 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave male athletes $9,751 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for men's teams. On average they make $135,748. They are supported by 24 assistant coaches who earn $47,924 on average.

Stony Brook University spent $4,799,904 on women's teams and received $1,350,420 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave female athletes $11,927 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for women's teams. They make, on average, $79,794. They are supported by 15 assistant coaches who earn, on average, $32,844.

_______________________________________________________________

If you are president of the university these are net-negative numbers. As a positive aside, the women are getting more funding than the men.


Good discussion. As I’m sure you read SBU will have football with a CAA schedule in the spring. Leads one to believe that CAA will have conference games. College sports ....Bottom line all lose money for their respective school. Their function is not to make money. There may/will be cutbacks. But I disagree with your initial premiss that the sky is falling and no SUNY sports for another year.












As I am sure many have heard a few Ivy league have announced NO winter sports I have a feeling that this will soon apply to spring sports as well what a complete mess this will be
Lets see what happens in the election
TRUTH

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Anonymous #312617 10/20/20 12:24 PM
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Nice try. I know several college All Americans that are incredible players that applied and did not get an invite. The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA. There are always politics in sports but this is about the worse I have ever seen.

I agree that the selection is a bit off... that said, "The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA" ... I am pretty sure she was named to the Under Armour Senior Girls All-American Team.



Ohhhh. HS AA means something when they are playing in college. And there you have it. On many a threads the player bio seems to mean something. So that’s why we are where we are when it comes down to selecting UA teams and HS AA. When you distill it down, the same few (mainly 1 person) gets to stack those teams with marginal players from her team/org who then pack their player bio’s with nonsense. What garbage.

I don’t think it means anything when they are playing in college and I do not think bio’s mean anything either. But if you look at the history of the players who were named to the Under Armour Senior All American Team you will see that the large majority of those players go on to have very good college careers , primarily at the Top 10 - 15 programs. I don’t think anyone questions the players ability, just where she is in her development vs many of the top attackers in the game. The kid is legit but there are many who have proven themselves at the highest level.

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Anonymous #312620 10/20/20 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by baldbear
I’m very involved in the collegiate aspect of lacrosse. I’m also pessimistic about SUNY as I have seen how they operate with regards to collegiate sports. You can throw the budget and spreadsheets in the trash can. SUNY has a $900 million shortfall to fill and the governor has given each school a directive to cut their costs. Albany and Stony Brook have the two biggest shortfalls. They haven’t announced how they are going to cut their budgets but I have a “feeling” sports MAY be part of the process.

_______________________________________________________________

Stony Brook University spent $8,210,055 on men's teams and received $3,643,116 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave male athletes $9,751 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for men's teams. On average they make $135,748. They are supported by 24 assistant coaches who earn $47,924 on average.

Stony Brook University spent $4,799,904 on women's teams and received $1,350,420 in revenue. On average, Stony Brook University gave female athletes $11,927 in sports related student aid.

There are 8 head coaches for women's teams. They make, on average, $79,794. They are supported by 15 assistant coaches who earn, on average, $32,844.

_______________________________________________________________

If you are president of the university these are net-negative numbers. As a positive aside, the women are getting more funding than the men.


Good discussion. As I’m sure you read SBU will have football with a CAA schedule in the spring. Leads one to believe that CAA will have conference games. College sports ....Bottom line all lose money for their respective school. Their function is not to make money. There may/will be cutbacks. But I disagree with your initial premiss that the sky is falling and no SUNY sports for another year.












As I am sure many have heard a few Ivy league have announced NO winter sports I have a feeling that this will soon apply to spring sports as well what a complete mess this will be
Lets see what happens in the election
very true

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Nice try. I know several college All Americans that are incredible players that applied and did not get an invite. The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA. There are always politics in sports but this is about the worse I have ever seen.

I agree that the selection is a bit off... that said, "The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA" ... I am pretty sure she was named to the Under Armour Senior Girls All-American Team.



Ohhhh. HS AA means something when they are playing in college. And there you have it. On many a threads the player bio seems to mean something. So that’s why we are where we are when it comes down to selecting UA teams and HS AA. When you distill it down, the same few (mainly 1 person) gets to stack those teams[/b[b]] with marginal players from her team/org who then pack their player bio’s with nonsense. What garbage.
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Well the kid your think is undeserving played for Top Guns.. so I guess that spoils that theory[u]

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Nice try. I know several college All Americans that are incredible players that applied and did not get an invite. The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA. There are always politics in sports but this is about the worse I have ever seen.

I agree that the selection is a bit off... that said, "The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA" ... I am pretty sure she was named to the Under Armour Senior Girls All-American Team.



Ohhhh. HS AA means something when they are playing in college. And there you have it. On many a threads the player bio seems to mean something. So that’s why we are where we are when it comes down to selecting UA teams and HS AA. When you distill it down, the same few (mainly 1 person) gets to stack those teams with marginal players from her team/org who then pack their player bio’s with nonsense. What garbage.

I don’t think it means anything when they are playing in college and I do not think bio’s mean anything either. But if you look at the history of the players who were named to the Under Armour Senior All American Team you will see that the large majority of those players go on to have very good college careers , primarily at the Top 10 - 15 programs. I don’t think anyone questions the players ability, just where she is in her development vs many of the top attackers in the game. The kid is legit but there are many who have proven themselves at the highest level.

Sorry but this post is ridiculous. There are many high school players that are legit and many that are better than this selection. That said a player who has never played a college game has no business going to this tryout and its obvious to all that Spallina has his hands all over this . Normally I would say who cares but this player took the spot from a more deserving player( there are many) who this may have been their final chance to make the most prestigious womens lacrosse team in the world. I know Spallina only cares about himself but I am shocked USlacrosse would allow this to happen. Not sure why Levy would allow this when she has multiple freshmen with way more accolades including the most hyped high school player in history who she obviously knew did not deserve a selection never having played a college game. Spallina and this nonsense is the reason so many players and parents leave the sport.

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did ya ever think that some girls said No? could they have offered other girls whose lives have moved on from lacrosse the opportunity but they passed on it.. ya know like maybe job commitments, covid concerns, or maybe they're afraid they put in all the time and energy and the event gets canceled anyway?
the list is the list, good on those that made it.

Actually got a response from US lacrosse while they wouldn't respond to particular players they said ALL players had to have registered for this particular event and there was a panel of 20+ coaches that selected and rated each position. Players were picked in rank order attack was by far the most heavily populated position followed by Defense and midfielders then goalies May not believe them but at least got a legitimate response

Where did you contact US lacrosse to get this response? There is no way this was not all about Spallina pushing his agenda. The player in question's biggest accolade is UA senior AA in a season that was not played. If you are trying to justify this selection there is no possible way any reasonable person can. Sorry but US lacrosse , Levy and Spallina should be ashamed they took a spot from a deserving player so Spallina can push his agenda.

Nobody on here has tried to justify the selection, pretty sure everyone knows who pushed it. But you can’t cry “it’s all political” when you look at the players on the list. BTW, UA Senior All American is the top honor for HS players and it is based off the summer circuit as that is where the most competitive HS lacrosse is played.

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Nice try. I know several college All Americans that are incredible players that applied and did not get an invite. The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA. There are always politics in sports but this is about the worse I have ever seen.

I agree that the selection is a bit off... that said, "The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA" ... I am pretty sure she was named to the Under Armour Senior Girls All-American Team.



Ohhhh. HS AA means something when they are playing in college. And there you have it. On many a threads the player bio seems to mean something. So that’s why we are where we are when it comes down to selecting UA teams and HS AA. When you distill it down, the same few (mainly 1 person) gets to stack those teams with marginal players from her team/org who then pack their player bio’s with nonsense. What garbage.

I don’t think it means anything when they are playing in college and I do not think bio’s mean anything either. But if you look at the history of the players who were named to the Under Armour Senior All American Team you will see that the large majority of those players go on to have very good college careers , primarily at the Top 10 - 15 programs. I don’t think anyone questions the players ability, just where she is in her development vs many of the top attackers in the game. The kid is legit but there are many who have proven themselves at the highest level.

Sorry but this post is ridiculous. There are many high school players that are legit and many that are better than this selection. That said a player who has never played a college game has no business going to this tryout and its obvious to all that Spallina has his hands all over this . Normally I would say who cares but this player took the spot from a more deserving player( there are many) who this may have been their final chance to make the most prestigious womens lacrosse team in the world. I know Spallina only cares about himself but I am shocked USlacrosse would allow this to happen. Not sure why Levy would allow this when she has multiple freshmen with way more accolades including the most hyped high school player in history who she obviously knew did not deserve a selection never having played a college game. Spallina and this nonsense is the reason so many players and parents leave the sport.

Which post is ridiculous? It looks like the one (above yours) the one you are responding to is saying basically what you are saying. The reality is, the kid is an excellent player. However, when there are Division I All Americans not on the list it is right to question the selection. Just remember, it is not the players fault...

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Anonymous #312630 10/20/20 01:32 PM
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It’s bad enough JS politics gave this unearned, undeserving hand out at the expense of many other actually earning it! To listen to anyone defend it is just dense. The only thing this kid ever earned was being asked to play for Spallina. She did nothing in high school but ride the coattails her junior year from their star player being face guarded! That is her one lacrosse accolade. What has she done? Nothing. She was a no name who earned nothing at Under Armour except for the hand out of senior year when she did not play and they GAVE HER the Senior UA All-American! So stop the BS and just call it like it is. The biggest political BS move in US lacrosse history. That is more acceptable than to listen to you try and defend it. Disgrace. Just stop already! This is a joke.

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