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Re: Holdbacks
Anonymous #244337 09/22/17 02:12 PM
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[quote=Anonymous]keep telling yourself that the 20th ranked D1 school is better then a good club lacrosse team....face it your kid was not an elite high school player. It's probably why you constantly rant about holdbacks.


Well, the rankings change week to week throughout the season, but yes, any top 20 Varsity D1 College lacrosse team would absolutely annihilate any college club team in existence. What are we even talking about? Some of the teams that fall into that category week to week from last year are Duke, Army, Loyola, it's just a stupid argument.

I Rant about holdbacks because it wrong simple has that. FYI, my guy all american this year on age.


You rant about bs, because your kid plays for a youth or hs b level club team, you are bored, you are an idiot, and you are pretty sure he won't even attain hs success eventually. If your kid was in college, you wouldn't even be on here, nor would the word holdback occupy one second in your mind on any given day. [/quot
Clearly the true hurts, you most likely have kids that are real social freaks.

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Anonymous #244339 09/22/17 02:14 PM
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a top 20 D 1 school you must be so proud.....if you're not in a top 10 D1 school you might as well be playing college club lacrosse. All my sons played on top 4 teams and they were all pre- first.

So all your sons are cheaters that's great,

Funny thing about hold back parents they all think there nothing wrong with it. But in all my years standing on side lines watching lax, i never heard a hold back parent say my kid is a year older or he repeated 8th grade. They all try to act like the kid is great an on age.


This is so True and GREAT statement.

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TM@BOTC #244342 09/22/17 02:31 PM
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Well our team/club voted to just play in age based tournaments this year. No more Hogan etc. We will likely need to travel a bit farther away from the holdback hotbed, but happy to do it. All you holdback teams can continue your foolish arms race to see how many older kids you can get and win the big title. Good luck. And for the holdback enthusiast trolls, don't you see all the parents of the on-age kids on your team laughing behind your backs? It really is sadly pathetic and feel bad for your child. Those on-age kids on the top teams are the real deal, and we all know it.

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TM@BOTC #244354 09/22/17 03:22 PM
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whats the common thing about the hold backs? They all go to private schools!

What schools are considered the best academically ..... private schools!

Who's laughing now? The private school kid who your son will be working for someday.

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TM@BOTC #244356 09/22/17 03:44 PM
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How many 2017 public school grads in Maryland went to D1 college programs last year? How many private?

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Anonymous #244364 09/22/17 04:26 PM
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whats the common thing about the hold backs? They all go to private schools!

What schools are considered the best academically ..... private schools!

Who's laughing now? The private school kid who your son will be working for someday.


Considered by who to be the best academically? The same parents who pay for it? Not based in fact at all in this area unless your data point for comparison is Baltimore city schools in which case would agree but several of the surrounding Counties offer equal and at times a better education as evidenced in test scores when comparing like students, they offer more in terms of advanced courses and AP courses due to economies of scale. Both have tangible and intangible other positive and negative factors about them but academics are not superior at the Baltimore private schools. Sports yes as many of the schools offer athletes scholarships and they fill the teams with known elite athletes in the area. Will not go into it in depth here as this topic has been beaten to death on these forums but you really should check your facts prior to posting broad generalizations. You pay for some great things as private schools including smaller class sizes but it really is more about if you feel that your child is best served by a private school that is great but respect that others in outlying counties choose public schools for specific reasons, including the academics, even if offered private school scholarships or money is not an issue.

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Anonymous #244366 09/22/17 04:30 PM
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whats the common thing about the hold backs? They all go to private schools!

What schools are considered the best academically ..... private schools!

Who's laughing now? The private school kid who your son will be working for someday.


What a joke of a post. I have a feeling your kid is in a private school for the wrong reasons. The complaining about hold backs in HS/College is pointless. Wankers like you keep it going

Sincerely,

Parent of 2 private school kids who didn't get held back



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Anonymous #244386 09/22/17 06:16 PM
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whats the common thing about the hold backs? They all go to private schools!

What schools are considered the best academically ..... private schools!

Who's laughing now? The private school kid who your son will be working for someday.


Considered by who to be the best academically? The same parents who pay for it? Not based in fact at all in this area unless your data point for comparison is Baltimore city schools in which case would agree but several of the surrounding Counties offer equal and at times a better education as evidenced in test scores when comparing like students, they offer more in terms of advanced courses and AP courses due to economies of scale. Both have tangible and intangible other positive and negative factors about them but academics are not superior at the Baltimore private schools. Sports yes as many of the schools offer athletes scholarships and they fill the teams with known elite athletes in the area. Will not go into it in depth here as this topic has been beaten to death on these forums but you really should check your facts prior to posting broad generalizations. You pay for some great things as private schools including smaller class sizes but it really is more about if you feel that your child is best served by a private school that is great but respect that others in outlying counties choose public schools for specific reasons, including the academics, even if offered private school scholarships or money is not an issue.


Please keep in mind that many kids from what you call surrounding counties and outlying counties go to private schools, most of which are in Baltimore County, a few in Howard and Harford and AA Counties. Those parents have a choice and went for private for whatever reason served their child best. The majority of the kids in private are not receiving scholarships.

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If you send your kid to a public school and you are complaining about hold backs.....look in the mirror ! Its your fault.

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If you send your kid to a public school and you are complaining about hold backs.....look in the mirror ! Its your fault.


Whats that mean?? We should be sending our on age kid to private school to help out with stats?

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TM@BOTC #245606 10/09/17 09:20 AM
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two year spreads was because not enough kids were playing back in the stone age...not a problem anymore...play on age...bunch of cheaters who play down

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TM@BOTC #245619 10/09/17 10:35 AM
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This should break it down for you. Long live the Holdback

Relative age effect - Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_age_effect

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Anonymous #245625 10/09/17 11:26 AM
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This should break it down for you. Long live the Holdback

Relative age effect - Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_age_effect



That private school tuition being utilized here a I see; pulling out Wikipedia as a reference tool. Money well spent Dad!!

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Anonymous #245697 10/09/17 04:56 PM
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This should break it down for you. Long live the Holdback

Relative age effect - Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_age_effect



This means what everyone keeps saying, At youth sports there is an advantage to being the oldest ..That is why all the holdback apologists want it to be by grade. Then their select holdback children will have even more of an advantage over others.than the oldest on age child does .

Yep..This is a good reason to let select children have an advantage. Forget what Youth sports stands for. Lets carve out a select few and see how they do.

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Anonymous #245942 10/10/17 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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[quote=Anonymous]keep telling yourself that the 20th ranked D1 school is better then a good club lacrosse team....face it your kid was not an elite high school player. It's probably why you constantly rant about holdbacks.


Well, the rankings change week to week throughout the season, but yes, any top 20 Varsity D1 College lacrosse team would absolutely annihilate any college club team in existence. What are we even talking about? Some of the teams that fall into that category week to week from last year are Duke, Army, Loyola, it's just a stupid argument.

I Rant about holdbacks because it wrong simple has that. FYI, my guy all american this year on age.


You rant about bs, because your kid plays for a youth or hs b level club team, you are bored, you are an idiot, and you are pretty sure he won't even attain hs success eventually. If your kid was in college, you wouldn't even be on here, nor would the word holdback occupy one second in your mind on any given day. [/quot
Clearly the true hurts, you most likely have kids that are real social freaks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]keep telling yourself that the 20th ranked D1 school is better then a good club lacrosse team....face it your kid was not an elite high school player. It's probably why you constantly rant about holdbacks.


Well, the rankings change week to week throughout the season, but yes, any top 20 Varsity D1 College lacrosse team would absolutely annihilate any college club team in existence. What are we even talking about? Some of the teams that fall into that category week to week from last year are Duke, Army, Loyola, it's just a stupid argument.

I Rant about holdbacks because it wrong simple has that. FYI, my guy all american this year on age.


You rant about bs, because your kid plays for a youth or hs b level club team, you are bored, you are an idiot, and you are pretty sure he won't even attain hs success eventually. If your kid was in college, you wouldn't even be on here, nor would the word holdback occupy one second in your mind on any given day. [/quot
Clearly the true hurts, you most likely have kids that are real social freaks.


It’s this type of social bullying philistine attitude that permeates lacrosse culture. Social freaks? Do you mean “nerds” smart kind kids?
Mark zuckerberg, steve jobs, bill gates, elon musk? Those social freaks? Lacrosse is a game NOT life

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