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How have the scrimmages gone so far? The qualifier should be interesting 20+ teams, maybe even more than 30

How does the qualifier work? It says there is a North and East qualifier the same weekend at the same location. Are they 2 separate tournaments? How many teams can qualify? This whole WSYL thing seems off. The West qualifier had 3 teams in it last weekend and 2 qualify? How is that possible? How did both 91 Teams qualify last year? This just seems to be another tournament which has multiple rounds and some teams from all over. That is fine but is hardly a World Series or even a National Tournament.

The reason certain areas have less trying to qualify is probably twofold.
1. Traveling across the country for a tournament is probably not appealing for a team that may meet the requirements. Meeting the requirements is hard once you get out of the northeast.
2. Fielding a team that is on age and has any chance of competing with players from Maryland northward is not likely. Yea there may be some representation from the south but everyone knows they aren’t true teams that have been playing together. They just grabbed the best players from within 100 miles of the clubs headquarters and put together a world serious team.

Yeah, Why is the other post broken? Maybe BOTC can fix or delete and start over?

Any Spring tournies for LI/CT teams?

Really disappointing that the 28s are headed to qualifiers and the commenting on 28s has been out of commission. I've had to read about reclassing and LI Legacy for the past 5 months... both of which grow old real quick.

Is there a list of Teams going to qualifier?

Here is an unofficial incomplete list. We've been told that there are 11 teams in the east qualifier and 5 are advancing. I only know of 9 teams listed below, so not sure who the other 2 are. Not sure if there are additional teams in the north qualifier and not sure how many will advance. Anyone know?

North
91 Venom
Boston Blue Jays
2Way
LI Express
Express North
Legacy
Rebels
91 TriState
Be The Best
Shore 2 Shore
LI Rush
Igloo
91 Surge
Orange Crush
Primetime
Predators
Cavalry
Albany Power

East
BBL
Freedom
Dukes
True MD
Jersey Express
3d GS
Tri-State
Riot
True PA

Teams missing from WSYL Instagram, FCA Upstate and Sweetlax Upstate

Teams missing that I know first hand that are signed up, Recon and Igloo Frost

It’s just straight up cheating in my opinion with the Boston Blue Jays making a team from 3 teams (3D ne, Laxachussetts and 4 Leaf). Do they seriously have that many kids that don’t qualify age wise?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams missing from WSYL Instagram, FCA Upstate and Sweetlax Upstate

Teams missing that I know first hand that are signed up, Recon and Igloo Frost

It’s just straight up cheating in my opinion with the Boston Blue Jays making a team from 3 teams (3D ne, Laxachussetts and 4 Leaf). Do they seriously have that many kids that don’t qualify age wise?

Agreed, very shady.

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams missing from WSYL Instagram, FCA Upstate and Sweetlax Upstate

Teams missing that I know first hand that are signed up, Recon and Igloo Frost

It’s just straight up cheating in my opinion with the Boston Blue Jays making a team from 3 teams (3D ne, Laxachussetts and 4 Leaf). Do they seriously have that many kids that don’t qualify age wise?

They shouldn’t be allowed to throw together a team. We will know if kids are not from 100 miles. With that said as long as they aren’t holdbacks, we will know that as well, it shouldn’t affect much.

How many non express Chuck kids are joining their express WS team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams missing from WSYL Instagram, FCA Upstate and Sweetlax Upstate

Teams missing that I know first hand that are signed up, Recon and Igloo Frost

It’s just straight up cheating in my opinion with the Boston Blue Jays making a team from 3 teams (3D ne, Laxachussetts and 4 Leaf). Do they seriously have that many kids that don’t qualify age wise?

They shouldn’t be allowed to throw together a team. We will know if kids are not from 100 miles. With that said as long as they aren’t holdbacks, we will know that as well, it shouldn’t affect much.

From their website rules

Partnerships or alliances between two or more clubs to create a team is not permitted

This is 100% what the Blue Jays team is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams missing from WSYL Instagram, FCA Upstate and Sweetlax Upstate

Teams missing that I know first hand that are signed up, Recon and Igloo Frost

It’s just straight up cheating in my opinion with the Boston Blue Jays making a team from 3 teams (3D ne, Laxachussetts and 4 Leaf). Do they seriously have that many kids that don’t qualify age wise?

They shouldn’t be allowed to throw together a team. We will know if kids are not from 100 miles. With that said as long as they aren’t holdbacks, we will know that as well, it shouldn’t affect much.

From their website rules

Partnerships or alliances between two or more clubs to create a team is not permitted

This is 100% what the Blue Jays team is

They played several fall tournaments as a team. So all good imo (not a blue jay parent)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams missing from WSYL Instagram, FCA Upstate and Sweetlax Upstate

Teams missing that I know first hand that are signed up, Recon and Igloo Frost

It’s just straight up cheating in my opinion with the Boston Blue Jays making a team from 3 teams (3D ne, Laxachussetts and 4 Leaf). Do they seriously have that many kids that don’t qualify age wise?

They shouldn’t be allowed to throw together a team. We will know if kids are not from 100 miles. With that said as long as they aren’t holdbacks, we will know that as well, it shouldn’t affect much.

From their website rules

Partnerships or alliances between two or more clubs to create a team is not permitted

This is 100% what the Blue Jays team is

They played several fall tournaments as a team. So all good imo (not a blue jay parent)

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!![/quote]

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.[/quote]

I like this... a "purist"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I wonder why we never see Madlax at the World Series to prove that they are the best U13 team? Oh yeh I remember why…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.[/quote]

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.[/quote]

Of course none of this matters or in your words is "meaningless", yet you are on here (a meaningless anonymous forum) complaining. Blue Jays are doing everything within the rules of the WSYL. It is supposed to be a fun event for the kids and every older kid I know that has come home from it says so, win or lose. So I think it is great that another group of kids get to participate. Can't wait to play the Blue Jays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.

Of course none of this matters or in your words is "meaningless", yet you are on here (a meaningless anonymous forum) complaining. Blue Jays are doing everything within the rules of the WSYL. It is supposed to be a fun event for the kids and every older kid I know that has come home from it says so, win or lose. So I think it is great that another group of kids get to participate. Can't wait to play the Blue Jays.[/quote]

The cost to participate in the WSYL is a huge factor for a lot of clubs. They don't want to force that extra cost on all their families. Some clubs make it optional and augment their roster with other local kids. For clubs that completely opt-out groups like Blue Jays step in and collect kids from multiple clubs to get a roster together. Both approaches let more kids participate. Where's the problem?

The schedule is out for this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.

Of course none of this matters or in your words is "meaningless", yet you are on here (a meaningless anonymous forum) complaining. Blue Jays are doing everything within the rules of the WSYL. It is supposed to be a fun event for the kids and every older kid I know that has come home from it says so, win or lose. So I think it is great that another group of kids get to participate. Can't wait to play the Blue Jays.

The cost to participate in the WSYL is a huge factor for a lot of clubs. They don't want to force that extra cost on all their families. Some clubs make it optional and augment their roster with other local kids. For clubs that completely opt-out groups like Blue Jays step in and collect kids from multiple clubs to get a roster together. Both approaches let more kids participate. Where's the problem?[/quote]

They aren’t a team. They are a made up team because their club teams can’t truly compete because they have too many older kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.

Of course none of this matters or in your words is "meaningless", yet you are on here (a meaningless anonymous forum) complaining. Blue Jays are doing everything within the rules of the WSYL. It is supposed to be a fun event for the kids and every older kid I know that has come home from it says so, win or lose. So I think it is great that another group of kids get to participate. Can't wait to play the Blue Jays.

The cost to participate in the WSYL is a huge factor for a lot of clubs. They don't want to force that extra cost on all their families. Some clubs make it optional and augment their roster with other local kids. For clubs that completely opt-out groups like Blue Jays step in and collect kids from multiple clubs to get a roster together. Both approaches let more kids participate. Where's the problem?

They aren’t a team. They are a made up team because their club teams can’t truly compete because they have too many older kids.[/quote]

This

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.

Of course none of this matters or in your words is "meaningless", yet you are on here (a meaningless anonymous forum) complaining. Blue Jays are doing everything within the rules of the WSYL. It is supposed to be a fun event for the kids and every older kid I know that has come home from it says so, win or lose. So I think it is great that another group of kids get to participate. Can't wait to play the Blue Jays.

The cost to participate in the WSYL is a huge factor for a lot of clubs. They don't want to force that extra cost on all their families. Some clubs make it optional and augment their roster with other local kids. For clubs that completely opt-out groups like Blue Jays step in and collect kids from multiple clubs to get a roster together. Both approaches let more kids participate. Where's the problem?

They aren’t a team. They are a made up team because their club teams can’t truly compete because they have too many older kids.

This[/quote]

These are valid points, but is banning the on-age kids who want to compete the best solution? If last year is any indication, the regional all-star teams didn't fare that great anyways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.

Of course none of this matters or in your words is "meaningless", yet you are on here (a meaningless anonymous forum) complaining. Blue Jays are doing everything within the rules of the WSYL. It is supposed to be a fun event for the kids and every older kid I know that has come home from it says so, win or lose. So I think it is great that another group of kids get to participate. Can't wait to play the Blue Jays.

The cost to participate in the WSYL is a huge factor for a lot of clubs. They don't want to force that extra cost on all their families. Some clubs make it optional and augment their roster with other local kids. For clubs that completely opt-out groups like Blue Jays step in and collect kids from multiple clubs to get a roster together. Both approaches let more kids participate. Where's the problem?

They aren’t a team. They are a made up team because their club teams can’t truly compete because they have too many older kids.

This

These are valid points, but is banning the on-age kids who want to compete the best solution? If last year is any indication, the regional all-star teams didn't fare that great anyways.[/quote]

The regional all star teams will do very well. Blue jays and BBL case in point. Two perfect examples of playing the system. Both teams will give teams like venom and the chucks and the “real” teams a run for their money.
The blue jays is a mix of players from other clubs who joined because their prior team is made up of older kids.
BBL is made up of the best on age kids of the BBL teams from south north etc.
Both are not true teams that existed last year. They were made for the sole purpose of collecting parents money and creating a team to compete against the true on age teams that would STILL would have existed if the World Series didn’t exist. Shady for sure.
Nobody should feel bad for the on age kid who wants to compete and now can join a team made for just this event (blue jays). That same kid, and his parents, have been associated with teams that have been taking wins from younger kids for years. They had their moments of glory. And it wasn’t enough apparently.

This weekends tourney in Farmingdale and the north qualifier will be much better than traveling to North Carolina for July 4th

Nobody should feel bad for the on age kid who wants to compete and now can join a team made for just this event (blue jays). That same kid, and his parents, have been associated with teams that have been taking wins from younger kids for years. They had their moments of glory. And it wasn’t enough apparently.[/quote]

‘Moments of Glory’, that’s funny, when did this happen? Such pushback from a group that will bring down almost 30 kids but only play about 12. Apologies for trying to include more kids that just want to compete. Don't worry, it shouldn’t impact the 5 minutes of playing time your kid will get all weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And let me guess they won’t play together after WS. Not a team!!

Please explain why this matters. Are you that afraid of losing a middle school lacrosse tournament?

PS - WSYL victories mean nothing, just like the All-American games, remember that? Clubs just promoting BS tournaments to make more money off the gullible.

But give a pass to adults desperately putting together a “team” to win the meaningless middles school tournament.
Or give a pass to you, who reads this page about meaningless middle school teams.

Let’s be honest none of this matters. Not HS not college. But yet here WE are.

Of course none of this matters or in your words is "meaningless", yet you are on here (a meaningless anonymous forum) complaining. Blue Jays are doing everything within the rules of the WSYL. It is supposed to be a fun event for the kids and every older kid I know that has come home from it says so, win or lose. So I think it is great that another group of kids get to participate. Can't wait to play the Blue Jays.

The cost to participate in the WSYL is a huge factor for a lot of clubs. They don't want to force that extra cost on all their families. Some clubs make it optional and augment their roster with other local kids. For clubs that completely opt-out groups like Blue Jays step in and collect kids from multiple clubs to get a roster together. Both approaches let more kids participate. Where's the problem?

They aren’t a team. They are a made up team because their club teams can’t truly compete because they have too many older kids.

This

These are valid points, but is banning the on-age kids who want to compete the best solution? If last year is any indication, the regional all-star teams didn't fare that great anyways.

The regional all star teams will do very well. Blue jays and BBL case in point. Two perfect examples of playing the system. Both teams will give teams like venom and the chucks and the “real” teams a run for their money.
The blue jays is a mix of players from other clubs who joined because their prior team is made up of older kids.
BBL is made up of the best on age kids of the BBL teams from south north etc.
Both are not true teams that existed last year. They were made for the sole purpose of collecting parents money and creating a team to compete against the true on age teams that would STILL would have existed if the World Series didn’t exist. Shady for sure.
Nobody should feel bad for the on age kid who wants to compete and now can join a team made for just this event (blue jays). That same kid, and his parents, have been associated with teams that have been taking wins from younger kids for years. They had their moments of glory. And it wasn’t enough apparently.[/quote]

BBL Elite plays together all year - they have 10 games in the books already this year. They are clearly a team. What rule would you propose to make them ineligible to compete?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody should feel bad for the on age kid who wants to compete and now can join a team made for just this event (blue jays). That same kid, and his parents, have been associated with teams that have been taking wins from younger kids for years. They had their moments of glory. And it wasn’t enough apparently.

‘Moments of Glory’, that’s funny, when did this happen? Such pushback from a group that will bring down almost 30 kids but only play about 12. Apologies for trying to include more kids that just want to compete. Don't worry, it shouldn’t impact the 5 minutes of playing time your kid will get all weekend.[/quote]

Please give me a break. They don’t even have a webpage. They literally are not even a team. They exist for one purpose only.
At least BBL pulled kids from all their regional teams. Again, created for one purpose only, but a far cry from the blue jays.

And I could care less where your son plays. I hope he is happy and a great player and having fun regardless of playing time.
Those sort of attacks are what got this board shut down the first time. So obvious to everyone except for you. You think the board “broke”? Wake up. Don’t make insinuations about 12-13 year olds. It’s not classy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I hope you are joking? MadLax has about 75% of its offense generated by one player, who is 15 years old, and without him this weekend they were spanked 12-1! such great development of the other kids on the roster.

And I could care less where your son plays. I hope he is happy and a great player and having fun regardless of playing time.
Those sort of attacks are what got this board shut down the first time. So obvious to everyone except for you. You think the board “broke”? Wake up. Don’t make insinuations about 12-13 year olds. It’s not classy.[/quote]

Seems like someone’s comments offended Mr. Classy now he’s threatening to shut the board down. I guess those comments hit a little too close to home. There were no insinuations or attacks made about 12 or 13 year olds. Truth hurt?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I hope you are joking? MadLax has about 75% of its offense generated by one player, who is 15 years old, and without him this weekend they were spanked 12-1! such great development of the other kids on the roster.

2way has kids just as old as that player (whose not 15). And 2way also has kids from like 4 states playing on a 7th grade team.

Just saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I hope you are joking? MadLax has about 75% of its offense generated by one player, who is 15 years old, and without him this weekend they were spanked 12-1! such great development of the other kids on the roster.

The kid isn't 15, get real. But he is a reclass back about 5 years ago and was forced to move down to make room for kids ML snagged from BLC so that coach's kid could play left attack. He's 14, December birth is the word from ML parents. But to point ... ML offense sputters without him. Their attack, although skilled, is just way too small and get destroyed. When he is there drawing double and triple teams is when the other kids score. If he played attack ML would be more dangerous but they run him at middie. ML is looking at at least 3 losses in HOCO this spring and are playing BBL and Venom in May. Likely L's if they don't bring in the national helpers. Maybe they can rent a few Red Hots.

So glad I’m not the only one that sees these older kids that don’t look like 12/13 yr olds at all playing on ‘28 teams and so glad I’m not the only one who thinks that these patchwork teams are shady.

Bbl/ 2way Sunday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is an unofficial incomplete list. We've been told that there are 11 teams in the east qualifier and 5 are advancing. I only know of 9 teams listed below, so not sure who the other 2 are. Not sure if there are additional teams in the north qualifier and not sure how many will advance. Anyone know?

North
91 Venom
Boston Blue Jays
2Way
LI Express
Express North
Legacy
Rebels
91 TriState
Be The Best
Shore 2 Shore
LI Rush
Igloo
91 Surge
Orange Crush
Primetime
Predators
Cavalry
Albany Power

East
BBL
Freedom
Dukes
True MD
Jersey Express
3d GS
Tri-State
Riot
True PA

How did you know this before tourney app schedule came out??

Always figured freedom was older kids. Should be interesting.

East will be interesting Dukes and Freedom has some older kids i was told. Not sure if just 1 or couple. They are both very strong teams in the own right though.

World Series, Who is in your Final Four?

Isn’t it interesting that venom and express got the best schedules out of anyone there?

A team on Long Island also has a 15/16 year old.

Easiest pool for one of the supposed top teams is hands down A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easiest pool for one of the supposed top teams is hands down A.

D is actually the easiest pool. But correct take Venom out and A is not rough. They are the top seeded team, not necessarily the best but the top seed. They are supposed to have the easiest pool. As everyone will see next weekend the best part about this tourney is it doesn’t matter all that much- the good teams will play each other day 2. If you look at the pools objectively they are pretty even. And whoever said Express has it easy I guess doesn’t know the teams

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Isn’t it interesting that venom and express got the best schedules out of anyone there?

Go back and do some research

How many teams qualify on the 25th?

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East will be interesting Dukes and Freedom has some older kids i was told. Not sure if just 1 or couple. They are both very strong teams in the own right though.

Will the older kids by on WS team?

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A team on Long Island also has a 15/16 year old.

Which team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A team on Long Island also has a 15/16 year old.

Did legacy get a 2nd goalie to replace the one that is above age?

I would say no since its age based. I believe both teams are going to be very good with the age based kids also. I watched Freedom play this past weekend, very skilled at every position including goalie, he was very impressive.

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Here is an unofficial incomplete list. We've been told that there are 11 teams in the east qualifier and 5 are advancing. I only know of 9 teams listed below, so not sure who the other 2 are. Not sure if there are additional teams in the north qualifier and not sure how many will advance. Anyone know?

North
91 Venom
Boston Blue Jays
2Way
LI Express
Express North
Legacy
Rebels
91 TriState
Be The Best
Shore 2 Shore
LI Rush
Igloo
91 Surge
Orange Crush
Primetime
Predators
Cavalry
Albany Power

East
BBL
Freedom
Dukes
True MD
Jersey Express
3d GS
Tri-State
Riot
True PA

How did you know this before tourney app schedule came out??

Always figured freedom was older kids. Should be interesting.

The teams were posted on Instagram before TM .

How many teams from the North are advancing?

5 of the 10 from the East are. I'd think BBL Freedom and Dukes would be 3 of the 5. Heard True MD didn't look good last weekend so I'm thinking Jersey Express and 3d GS round out the 5.

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Bbl/ 2way Sunday

Is it a matchup of their World Series teams? I'm curious to see what the 2W world series team looks like without the holdbacks.

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Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I hope you are joking? MadLax has about 75% of its offense generated by one player, who is 15 years old, and without him this weekend they were spanked 12-1! such great development of the other kids on the roster.

The kid isn't 15, get real. But he is a reclass back about 5 years ago and was forced to move down to make room for kids ML snagged from BLC so that coach's kid could play left attack. He's 14, December birth is the word from ML parents. But to point ... ML offense sputters without him. Their attack, although skilled, is just way too small and get destroyed. When he is there drawing double and triple teams is when the other kids score. If he played attack ML would be more dangerous but they run him at middie. ML is looking at at least 3 losses in HOCO this spring and are playing BBL and Venom in May. Likely L's if they don't bring in the national helpers. Maybe they can rent a few Red Hots.

What’s Venom’s record head to head with Madlax? And 2Way, how bout them?

Couple of comments and observations pertaining to the World Series comments here.
There are no 15/16 year olds on Long Island playing on a 2028 team. Period.
Venom got an easy schedule. Don’t matter. They should make it far unless they come across the blue jays, 2 way, or bbl early
D bracket is by far the weakest.
There are several teams that were made strictly for the World Series. They wouldn’t even have a team if it weren’t for the intention of winning the World Series. We all know who you are. The whole blue jays thing is so shady. They don’t have a team at any other age group. They aren’t an organization. It’s an all star team. End of story.
BBL did their best to ensure a ticket to the finals. It will probably work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couple of comments and observations pertaining to the World Series comments here.
There are no 15/16 year olds on Long Island playing on a 2028 team. Period.
Venom got an easy schedule. Don’t matter. They should make it far unless they come across the blue jays, 2 way, or bbl early
D bracket is by far the weakest.
There are several teams that were made strictly for the World Series. They wouldn’t even have a team if it weren’t for the intention of winning the World Series. We all know who you are. The whole blue jays thing is so shady. They don’t have a team at any other age group. They aren’t an organization. It’s an all star team. End of story.
BBL did their best to ensure a ticket to the finals. It will probably work.

Just wanted to clarify…. I realize that bbl and venom are in two different qualifiers and therefore won’t play each other in March in Delaware. I was addressing both the qualifiers and the main event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couple of comments and observations pertaining to the World Series comments here.
There are no 15/16 year olds on Long Island playing on a 2028 team. Period.
Venom got an easy schedule. Don’t matter. They should make it far unless they come across the blue jays, 2 way, or bbl early
D bracket is by far the weakest.
There are several teams that were made strictly for the World Series. They wouldn’t even have a team if it weren’t for the intention of winning the World Series. We all know who you are. The whole blue jays thing is so shady. They don’t have a team at any other age group. They aren’t an organization. It’s an all star team. End of story.
BBL did their best to ensure a ticket to the finals. It will probably work.

Just wanted to clarify…. I realize that bbl and venom are in two different qualifiers and therefore won’t play each other in March in Delaware. I was addressing both the qualifiers and the main event.

Express and Express North also right up there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couple of comments and observations pertaining to the World Series comments here.
There are no 15/16 year olds on Long Island playing on a 2028 team. Period.
Venom got an easy schedule. Don’t matter. They should make it far unless they come across the blue jays, 2 way, or bbl early
D bracket is by far the weakest.
There are several teams that were made strictly for the World Series. They wouldn’t even have a team if it weren’t for the intention of winning the World Series. We all know who you are. The whole blue jays thing is so shady. They don’t have a team at any other age group. They aren’t an organization. It’s an all star team. End of story.
BBL did their best to ensure a ticket to the finals. It will probably work.

For years these dads have dreamt about how little Timmy will dominate once these holdbacks are out of the mix. Here comes the rude awakening when they realize that many of the kids that have been smoking Timmy are actually the same age. Gotta find a new excuse to save dad's ego. "All of these non-LI teams are invalid. If they were excluded, Timmy would be a superstar like I've always dreamt of!" So sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couple of comments and observations pertaining to the World Series comments here.
There are no 15/16 year olds on Long Island playing on a 2028 team. Period.
Venom got an easy schedule. Don’t matter. They should make it far unless they come across the blue jays, 2 way, or bbl early
D bracket is by far the weakest.
There are several teams that were made strictly for the World Series. They wouldn’t even have a team if it weren’t for the intention of winning the World Series. We all know who you are. The whole blue jays thing is so shady. They don’t have a team at any other age group. They aren’t an organization. It’s an all star team. End of story.
BBL did their best to ensure a ticket to the finals. It will probably work.

For years these dads have dreamt about how little Timmy will dominate once these holdbacks are out of the mix. Here comes the rude awakening when they realize that many of the kids that have been smoking Timmy are actually the same age. Gotta find a new excuse to save dad's ego. "All of these non-LI teams are invalid. If they were excluded, Timmy would be a superstar like I've always dreamt of!" So sad.

Lol I didn’t mention holdbacks once. Your reading comprehension is poor. What I did point out is that there are certain teams that were put together this year and this year only for one reason and one reason only. They aren’t by definition a club. They are an all star team of “on age” kids (see prior reading comprehension comment). They are as close to the concept of colluding between clubs, which is against the rules, as you can be. Your lack of ability to read my post and understand the issue I voiced is actually the sad part. Not your made up perception of how I view my child’s abilities and the level of stardom I perceive he possesses.
But since you mentioned holdbacks, I’ll reiterate your point. But I’ll do so with some common sense. Please read it slowly and absorb prior to trying to respond. The reason that these very talented on age kids (nobody denied their talents) are forced to play for a team that really isn’t a team is because their team from last year will not qualify because they have older kids or holdbacks. Hence the problem with lacrosse in general and why it should be according to birth year and not grade.
And lastly, since you mentioned Long Island, I’ll jump on that point as well. Can’t let that misinterpretation slide as well. If someone wanted to form an all star team with the best of 91 and express and a few others from the remaining teams, there would not be an on age team in the country that could beat them. Im right. You know it.

Well said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couple of comments and observations pertaining to the World Series comments here.
There are no 15/16 year olds on Long Island playing on a 2028 team. Period.
Venom got an easy schedule. Don’t matter. They should make it far unless they come across the blue jays, 2 way, or bbl early
D bracket is by far the weakest.
There are several teams that were made strictly for the World Series. They wouldn’t even have a team if it weren’t for the intention of winning the World Series. We all know who you are. The whole blue jays thing is so shady. They don’t have a team at any other age group. They aren’t an organization. It’s an all star team. End of story.
BBL did their best to ensure a ticket to the finals. It will probably work.

For years these dads have dreamt about how little Timmy will dominate once these holdbacks are out of the mix. Here comes the rude awakening when they realize that many of the kids that have been smoking Timmy are actually the same age. Gotta find a new excuse to save dad's ego. "All of these non-LI teams are invalid. If they were excluded, Timmy would be a superstar like I've always dreamt of!" So sad.

Lol I didn’t mention holdbacks once. Your reading comprehension is poor. What I did point out is that there are certain teams that were put together this year and this year only for one reason and one reason only. They aren’t by definition a club. They are an all star team of “on age” kids (see prior reading comprehension comment). They are as close to the concept of colluding between clubs, which is against the rules, as you can be. Your lack of ability to read my post and understand the issue I voiced is actually the sad part. Not your made up perception of how I view my child’s abilities and the level of stardom I perceive he possesses.
But since you mentioned holdbacks, I’ll reiterate your point. But I’ll do so with some common sense. Please read it slowly and absorb prior to trying to respond. The reason that these very talented on age kids (nobody denied their talents) are forced to play for a team that really isn’t a team is because their team from last year will not qualify because they have older kids or holdbacks. Hence the problem with lacrosse in general and why it should be according to birth year and not grade.
And lastly, since you mentioned Long Island, I’ll jump on that point as well. Can’t let that misinterpretation slide as well. If someone wanted to form an all star team with the best of 91 and express and a few others from the remaining teams, there would not be an on age team in the country that could beat them. Im right. You know it.

100%

Who is the strongest team in each North qualifier pool?

What is 91 Venom’s head to head record w Madlax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easiest pool for one of the supposed top teams is hands down A.

D is actually the easiest pool. But correct take Venom out and A is not rough. They are the top seeded team, not necessarily the best but the top seed. They are supposed to have the easiest pool. As everyone will see next weekend the best part about this tourney is it doesn’t matter all that much- the good teams will play each other day 2. If you look at the pools objectively they are pretty even. And whoever said Express has it easy I guess doesn’t know the teams

Venom has a cake walk Saturday.
Legacy plays predators and recon…that is laughable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easiest pool for one of the supposed top teams is hands down A.

D is actually the easiest pool. But correct take Venom out and A is not rough. They are the top seeded team, not necessarily the best but the top seed. They are supposed to have the easiest pool. As everyone will see next weekend the best part about this tourney is it doesn’t matter all that much- the good teams will play each other day 2. If you look at the pools objectively they are pretty even. And whoever said Express has it easy I guess doesn’t know the teams

Venom has a cake walk Saturday.
Legacy plays predators and recon…that is laughable.

Venom is a top seed they should have an easy schefule. Legacy also has 2 very tough games. What don’t you people understand about a tournament with seeded teams?? Yes it may not be perfect but watch the NCAA bracket shows they aren’t either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the strongest team in each North qualifier pool?

A- venom not even a close second

B- 2Way

C- express or blue jays

D- FCA

Igloo Frost ? Really ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Frost ? Really ??

Why do you care?
It’s a tournament.
Let them play and learn and grow. Should they not bother because you do not think they are worthy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo Frost ? Really ??

What team is your son on that you have to take shots at a CHILDRENS lax team? Pathetic. Do these kids not deserve to play and compete?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I hope you are joking? MadLax has about 75% of its offense generated by one player, who is 15 years old, and without him this weekend they were spanked 12-1! such great development of the other kids on the roster.

The kid isn't 15, get real. But he is a reclass back about 5 years ago and was forced to move down to make room for kids ML snagged from BLC so that coach's kid could play left attack. He's 14, December birth is the word from ML parents. But to point ... ML offense sputters without him. Their attack, although skilled, is just way too small and get destroyed. When he is there drawing double and triple teams is when the other kids score. If he played attack ML would be more dangerous but they run him at middie. ML is looking at at least 3 losses in HOCO this spring and are playing BBL and Venom in May. Likely L's if they don't bring in the national helpers. Maybe they can rent a few Red Hots.

What’s Venom’s record head to head with Madlax? And 2Way, how bout them?

Both are 0-1 against Madlax. BUT ... Madlax augmented their roster with the big Texas D and the NH middie for both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couple of comments and observations pertaining to the World Series comments here.
There are no 15/16 year olds on Long Island playing on a 2028 team. Period.
Venom got an easy schedule. Don’t matter. They should make it far unless they come across the blue jays, 2 way, or bbl early
D bracket is by far the weakest.
There are several teams that were made strictly for the World Series. They wouldn’t even have a team if it weren’t for the intention of winning the World Series. We all know who you are. The whole blue jays thing is so shady. They don’t have a team at any other age group. They aren’t an organization. It’s an all star team. End of story.
BBL did their best to ensure a ticket to the finals. It will probably work.

For years these dads have dreamt about how little Timmy will dominate once these holdbacks are out of the mix. Here comes the rude awakening when they realize that many of the kids that have been smoking Timmy are actually the same age. Gotta find a new excuse to save dad's ego. "All of these non-LI teams are invalid. If they were excluded, Timmy would be a superstar like I've always dreamt of!" So sad.

Lol I didn’t mention holdbacks once. Your reading comprehension is poor. What I did point out is that there are certain teams that were put together this year and this year only for one reason and one reason only. They aren’t by definition a club. They are an all star team of “on age” kids (see prior reading comprehension comment). They are as close to the concept of colluding between clubs, which is against the rules, as you can be. Your lack of ability to read my post and understand the issue I voiced is actually the sad part. Not your made up perception of how I view my child’s abilities and the level of stardom I perceive he possesses.
But since you mentioned holdbacks, I’ll reiterate your point. But I’ll do so with some common sense. Please read it slowly and absorb prior to trying to respond. The reason that these very talented on age kids (nobody denied their talents) are forced to play for a team that really isn’t a team is because their team from last year will not qualify because they have older kids or holdbacks. Hence the problem with lacrosse in general and why it should be according to birth year and not grade.
And lastly, since you mentioned Long Island, I’ll jump on that point as well. Can’t let that misinterpretation slide as well. If someone wanted to form an all star team with the best of 91 and express and a few others from the remaining teams, there would not be an on age team in the country that could beat them. Im right. You know it.

Nope, you didn't mention holdbacks. Now that the holdback excuse is no longer applicable, "Collusion" is your latest excuse why your kid's team won't thrive. I guarantee your kid doesn't play for Venom or LIE. Those teams want to play the best to prove they are the best. Parents like you want exclusions . . . or they make excuses. Good luck this weekend.

What's the word on Legacy? My kids play for a competitor of theirs...seems like they've digressed a bit. Always seem like they are a kid or 2 away from being one of the top teams.

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What's the word on Legacy? My kids play for a competitor of theirs...seems like they've digressed a bit. Always seem like they are a kid or 2 away from being one of the top teams.

Who cares about them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the word on Legacy? My kids play for a competitor of theirs...seems like they've digressed a bit. Always seem like they are a kid or 2 away from being one of the top teams.

toxicity

I'm friends with some of the dads (same town), and they're pissed. One of them recently joined, but as far back as I can remember, they were always pretty good. Seems like they've fallen a bit.

Can anyone shed light on who / what the Boston blue jays are? Never seen them before and there is no information about them online. I am assuming it’s just an all-star team of on-age kids from laxachusetts, 4 leaf and others in Feb area. Anyone who actually knows?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easiest pool for one of the supposed top teams is hands down A.

D is actually the easiest pool. But correct take Venom out and A is not rough. They are the top seeded team, not necessarily the best but the top seed. They are supposed to have the easiest pool. As everyone will see next weekend the best part about this tourney is it doesn’t matter all that much- the good teams will play each other day 2. If you look at the pools objectively they are pretty even. And whoever said Express has it easy I guess doesn’t know the teams

Venom has a cake walk Saturday.
Legacy plays predators and recon…that is laughable.

And 2way and express north. Those games will not be a joke.

How many teams from the North qualifier are advancing?

Brackets B and C are the hardest.

Can we all just enjoy for a minute how quiet all the Maryland teams are since not one of them can even field a team for the World Series?!?!?! Maybe this is the only year we will get it, but the absence of their smug bs about “how good” they are will have to be tempered for the summer. Of course they will try to say that the World Series isn’t what it used to be so they won’t bother to show up…blah, blah.

Fact: when the playing field is level, they won’t even show up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we all just enjoy for a minute how quiet all the Maryland teams are since not one of them can even field a team for the World Series?!?!?! Maybe this is the only year we will get it, but the absence of their smug bs about “how good” they are will have to be tempered for the summer. Of course they will try to say that the World Series isn’t what it used to be so they won’t bother to show up…blah, blah.

Fact: when the playing field is level, they won’t even show up.

TRUE!!

Virginia agrees

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we all just enjoy for a minute how quiet all the Maryland teams are since not one of them can even field a team for the World Series?!?!?! Maybe this is the only year we will get it, but the absence of their smug bs about “how good” they are will have to be tempered for the summer. Of course they will try to say that the World Series isn’t what it used to be so they won’t bother to show up…blah, blah.

Fact: when the playing field is level, they won’t even show up.

Um... TourneyMachine shows True MD in the east.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we all just enjoy for a minute how quiet all the Maryland teams are since not one of them can even field a team for the World Series?!?!?! Maybe this is the only year we will get it, but the absence of their smug bs about “how good” they are will have to be tempered for the summer. Of course they will try to say that the World Series isn’t what it used to be so they won’t bother to show up…blah, blah.

Fact: when the playing field is level, they won’t even show up.

Marylander here, according to this board the tournament directors create the uneven playing field so make up your mind. We have too many money grab club teams in our area to send a competitive team. Our best kids don’t play on same teams, they play against each other. Schedule the tournament and qualifiers during off season and we may think about it.

How many of the teams that have won are actual teams that consistently play together or an all star team thrown together just for 1 tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we all just enjoy for a minute how quiet all the Maryland teams are since not one of them can even field a team for the World Series?!?!?! Maybe this is the only year we will get it, but the absence of their smug bs about “how good” they are will have to be tempered for the summer. Of course they will try to say that the World Series isn’t what it used to be so they won’t bother to show up…blah, blah.

Fact: when the playing field is level, they won’t even show up.

Marylander here, according to this board the tournament directors create the uneven playing field so make up your mind. We have too many money grab club teams in our area to send a competitive team. Our best kids don’t play on same teams, they play against each other. Schedule the tournament and qualifiers during off season and we may think about it.

How many of the teams that have won are actual teams that consistently play together or an all star team thrown together just for 1 tournament?

You missed the point.
Hawks, crabs, etc, etc are not there because they do not meet the criteria. Their 2028 teams would be too old and the 2029 teams, which are comparable in age to what will be there, would stand no chance.

And the vast majority of teams consistently play together. Just don’t call out those teams (the minority) that don’t on this board. You’ll be accused of being afraid of competition and you’ll be told what team your child plays for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we all just enjoy for a minute how quiet all the Maryland teams are since not one of them can even field a team for the World Series?!?!?! Maybe this is the only year we will get it, but the absence of their smug bs about “how good” they are will have to be tempered for the summer. Of course they will try to say that the World Series isn’t what it used to be so they won’t bother to show up…blah, blah.

Fact: when the playing field is level, they won’t even show up.

Marylander here, according to this board the tournament directors create the uneven playing field so make up your mind. We have too many money grab club teams in our area to send a competitive team. Our best kids don’t play on same teams, they play against each other. Schedule the tournament and qualifiers during off season and we may think about it.

How many of the teams that have won are actual teams that consistently play together or an all star team thrown together just for 1 tournament?

Last year Team 91 LI Machine won and they were definitely a legitimate team that played together all year. Not sure how to categorize BBL Elite but they certainly play together a bunch. It ended up being a good mix of both and was very competitive across the board. It definitely would have been better with a few more MD teams though - it's too bad more don't figure out a way to participate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we all just enjoy for a minute how quiet all the Maryland teams are since not one of them can even field a team for the World Series?!?!?! Maybe this is the only year we will get it, but the absence of their smug bs about “how good” they are will have to be tempered for the summer. Of course they will try to say that the World Series isn’t what it used to be so they won’t bother to show up…blah, blah.

Fact: when the playing field is level, they won’t even show up.

Marylander here, according to this board the tournament directors create the uneven playing field so make up your mind. We have too many money grab club teams in our area to send a competitive team. Our best kids don’t play on same teams, they play against each other. Schedule the tournament and qualifiers during off season and we may think about it.

How many of the teams that have won are actual teams that consistently play together or an all star team thrown together just for 1 tournament?

Any team that has won from LI (91, Express, Legacy) have been 'actual teams' that consistently play together year-round. Not cobbled together collections of the best available players.

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

If nobody cares, why are you on this forum commenting on it? Go back to the MD forum and discuss how many holdbacks FCA has or the exact birthdate of the ML kid. NO ONE CARES.

The World Series is a unique experience that your kids won't get a chance to participate in. You can poo poo it if you want.

I may be in the minority, but I wish MD would put together a "Blue Jays" like on-age all-star team to compete at the WS. It'll never happen, but it would be fun to see what MD actually has in terms of on-age talent.

"As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is."

right on schedule....

I love how *THIS* tournament for 7th graders is "inconsequential" but the one's maryland teams will show up for are important???

It's 7th grade lacrosse - there is no consequence. It's about the kids and that's why the World Series is special. It's unlike any tournament they will play in and it's a great experience for them. The fact that you can't wrap your head around and want to try and make it a less-than tournament because brand of lacrosse favors holding kids back to play lesser/younger competition and then turning around and saying the teams from up north are "afraid to compete" is the height of irony. You are the ones who are afraid to let your kid play with their grade/age - the only fear of competition is coming from your households which is why you hold your kids back. It's fine, just be honest about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

If nobody cares, why are you on this forum commenting on it? Go back to the MD forum and discuss how many holdbacks FCA has or the exact birthdate of the ML kid. NO ONE CARES.

The World Series is a unique experience that your kids won't get a chance to participate in. You can poo poo it if you want.

I may be in the minority, but I wish MD would put together a "Blue Jays" like on-age all-star team to compete at the WS. It'll never happen, but it would be fun to see what MD actually has in terms of on-age talent.

True Annapolis added a handful of kids from other clubs last year and lost to 91 in the quarters. If the more prominent MD teams did the same their teams would be significantly stronger than the one True put together. If you went straight "Blue Jays" it would be a bloodbath. Same if LI put together an all-star team. There is no reason to believe any of the hot bed areas have better on-age talent. LI does have better on-age teams though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

If nobody cares, why are you on this forum commenting on it? Go back to the MD forum and discuss how many holdbacks FCA has or the exact birthdate of the ML kid. NO ONE CARES.

The World Series is a unique experience that your kids won't get a chance to participate in. You can poo poo it if you want.

I may be in the minority, but I wish MD would put together a "Blue Jays" like on-age all-star team to compete at the WS. It'll never happen, but it would be fun to see what MD actually has in terms of on-age talent.

Exactly!

I can say with certainty many of the on age parents in MD talked about doing a Blue Jays type team last fall.

Actually there were two separate groups that I know of looking to get the on age HoCo kids to play.

But then folks saw the qualifier was the same week as the first week of the HoCo season and couldn’t get enough commitments.

It [Censored] but if it was a week earlier, who knows, things may have materialized. It would have been fun for the boys, my son included.

I will say that even with that, many of MD the on age kids and parents that I know just weren’t excited or motivated to do it. It’s not really a big deal like it is in the north.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

It means so little to this guy that he will join a different message board to prove that he doesn't care. Way to go Joe from Maryland who has an on-age kid!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brackets B and C are the hardest.

Depending on who you are.
North and 2way are the only top teams in B
Express and blue jays only top teams in C

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

If nobody cares, why are you on this forum commenting on it? Go back to the MD forum and discuss how many holdbacks FCA has or the exact birthdate of the ML kid. NO ONE CARES.

The World Series is a unique experience that your kids won't get a chance to participate in. You can poo poo it if you want.

I may be in the minority, but I wish MD would put together a "Blue Jays" like on-age all-star team to compete at the WS. It'll never happen, but it would be fun to see what MD actually has in terms of on-age talent.

I speak as a LI transplant to MD, who’s had kids play in both places. MD cares because it keeps getting mentioned they can’t play in the tournament. 1) Scheduling conflicts with hoco. 2) Due to many clubs and director/coaches politics they would never field a “Blue Jays” team. As True continues to buy up all the lower tier clubs (there are a few excellent players on these clubs) in MD, they will get better in the 100 mi radius and more competitive in the next few years. The 100 mi radius in LI is equivalent to the entire DMV area.

Believe me, there are plenty of on age elite players (most play up) they are spread out amongst the 15 clubs in the 20 mi radius.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

If nobody cares, why are you on this forum commenting on it? Go back to the MD forum and discuss how many holdbacks FCA has or the exact birthdate of the ML kid. NO ONE CARES.

The World Series is a unique experience that your kids won't get a chance to participate in. You can poo poo it if you want.

I may be in the minority, but I wish MD would put together a "Blue Jays" like on-age all-star team to compete at the WS. It'll never happen, but it would be fun to see what MD actually has in terms of on-age talent.

Exactly!

When it was the World Series of Youth Lacrosse Maryland did have teams entered. Hawks were in the tournament for 2026. Maryland does have the ability to be there. Since WSYL was cancelled and it is now World Championship I think there is less of a desire to go from the MD area schools.

The kids here are excited. Even those who know they have less of a chance to win or even qualify
Not sure how excited the parents are but the ones I talked to are viewing it as another tournament. A chance to play. Part of their tuition fees.
It’s a good thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

Nobody is crying about it. This is a public forum to discuss a lot of things. Sometimes people on here are ignorant and impossible to talk to. Sometimes they are open minded and reasonable like you seem to be. The reason that this tournament means a lot to the Long Island and northeast kids is because it’s an opportunity to play against an even playing field. The advantage is non existent. It means nothing to the Maryland crowd because holdbacks are so common. I was on the Maryland board the other day and was amazed at how matter of factly they were referring to teams running into “academic problems”, meaning gonna get a lot of holdbacks. Such common place for kids to be held back that it is just accepted. That is not something that is common here. Yes, it exists. But it’s so far from common.

In the end it doesn’t matter. It will all even out after puberty. But at this age it’s overwhelmingly thought of as “unfair”. Nobody is crying about it. But it’s definitely something that people do not like. Hence the reason this particular tournament, and the attitude towards holdbacks, is so different up here. Both Long Island and Maryland will continue to be hotbeds for the sport, along with some other areas catching up. If lacrosse was set up like hockey, which most hope it will eventually be, this back and forth wouldn’t exist. It won’t matter to most of us because our kids will be in high school and beyond by the time the change comes. But it will eventually come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The kids here are excited. Even those who know they have less of a chance to win or even qualify
Not sure how excited the parents are but the ones I talked to are viewing it as another tournament. A chance to play. Part of their tuition fees.
It’s a good thing.

I agree, kids are excited and all of the talk is how early they will leave school (sorry not sorry) to meet up in DE. It is a fun tourney and even my son's friends who are not participating (let's be real- they all follow each other on IG and TikTok and "know" one another) are excited for them. It is not the kids complaining about any of this nonsense, it is the grown adults complaining and bashing one another. The kids just want to play. Let those competing this weekend and in Charlotte in June have fun playing a sport that brings a whole lot to their lives.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a MD parent of an on age kid - it’s difficult to describe how inconsequential this World Series tournament is.

Yes on age sounds good. But on age is completely and totally irrelevant in the lacrosse world. Literally NO ONE CARES.

Not in club, not in HS and not in college. If the NY crowd feels better about themselves than have at it.

It’s just not the way this game is set up right now. Hopefully it changes soon for kids to come. It won’t impact my son at all.

Besides I could argue that the best on age kids are in MD anyway. To play on those teams against the older kids DAILY cuts a different sort of kid.

Enjoy the tournament.

On age means nothing at high school and college. But between the ages of 10-14 it means everything. What part of that do you not comprehend?

It means something for 100% sure. It doesn’t mean everything.

But keep telling yourself that. You have 1.5 more years to cry about it so get your moneys worth.

Again, enjoy the tournament.

If nobody cares, why are you on this forum commenting on it? Go back to the MD forum and discuss how many holdbacks FCA has or the exact birthdate of the ML kid. NO ONE CARES.

The World Series is a unique experience that your kids won't get a chance to participate in. You can poo poo it if you want.

I may be in the minority, but I wish MD would put together a "Blue Jays" like on-age all-star team to compete at the WS. It'll never happen, but it would be fun to see what MD actually has in terms of on-age talent.

On age, not on age, I dunno— but I do know that the DMV and Baltimore teams romp all over the NY teams these days in the National All Star Hames, or when St John’s rolls up to St Anthony’s

"On age, not on age, I dunno— but I do know that the DMV and Baltimore teams romp all over the NY teams these days in the National All Star Hames, or when St John’s rolls up to St Anthony’s"

Yes, St. Johns beat St. Anthony's (St Johns was AMAZING last year, FACTS).there were other games too that you seem to have left out.

Brunswick 12 Georgetown Prep 7,

Oh yeah, and Brunswick is holdback central so a good comp for the DMV style of play (other Prep schools fall in this category too). The finished #1 in the country on Inside Lacrosse.

Wonder how many kids/parents from holdback teams will be on sidelines watching venom in DE tomorrow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"On age, not on age, I dunno— but I do know that the DMV and Baltimore teams romp all over the NY teams these days in the National All Star Hames, or when St John’s rolls up to St Anthony’s"

Yes, St. Johns beat St. Anthony's (St Johns was AMAZING last year, FACTS).there were other games too that you seem to have left out.

Brunswick 12 Georgetown Prep 7,

Oh yeah, and Brunswick is holdback central so a good comp for the DMV style of play (other Prep schools fall in this category too). The finished #1 in the country on Inside Lacrosse.

Welcome back sticky socks !

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How is True Blue doing in the World Series? Assuming they have a team at this age?

Some played better than expected. Some played worse than expected. Congrats to all who qualified. Have fun watching venom down south.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some played better than expected. Some played worse than expected. Congrats to all who qualified. Have fun watching venom down south.

Someone made a huge mistake or it was done on purpose.Team seeding was wrong!

For the folks in DE this weekend, how would you rank the teams you saw? Here's my take . . .

1. Venom - most balanced team, unselfish offense with great shooters everywhere - clearly the team to beat in Charlotte
2. 2Way - some of the best individual offensive players in DE this weekend - 44, 1, 16, 26 - all are studs, had to face off w pole vs Venom which will hurt
3. BBL - big athletic defense with good fogo will keep games close, but will need to score more to keep up with Venom
4. Eclipse - surprisingly strong performance this weekend - 7 is smooth
5. Freedom - balanced team, good goalie, not sure they have the alphas on offense to beat the better defenders
6. Blue Jays - some good pieces, got stronger as the weekend went on, will likely be a much stronger team in Charlotte as they get to practice together more
7. Express North - similar to BBL with big athletic poles, but they didn't have consistent play on faceoffs, and not as much offensive firepower
8. LIE - a bit of a disappointment not making it to the final four of the North bracket. Skilled and well coached - not sure they have enough elite athletes right now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some played better than expected. Some played worse than expected. Congrats to all who qualified. Have fun watching venom down south.

Someone made a huge mistake or it was done on purpose.Team seeding was wrong!

What was wrong with the seeding ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some played better than expected. Some played worse than expected. Congrats to all who qualified. Have fun watching venom down south.

Someone made a huge mistake or it was done on purpose.Team seeding was wrong!

What was wrong with the seeding ?

Nothing. Every team has opportunity. At some point you have to beat good teams to qualify

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the folks in DE this weekend, how would you rank the teams you saw? Here's my take . . .

1. Venom - most balanced team, unselfish offense with great shooters everywhere - clearly the team to beat in Charlotte
2. 2Way - some of the best individual offensive players in DE this weekend - 44, 1, 16, 26 - all are studs, had to face off w pole vs Venom which will hurt
3. BBL - big athletic defense with good fogo will keep games close, but will need to score more to keep up with Venom
4. Eclipse - surprisingly strong performance this weekend - 7 is smooth
5. Freedom - balanced team, good goalie, not sure they have the alphas on offense to beat the better defenders
6. Blue Jays - some good pieces, got stronger as the weekend went on, will likely be a much stronger team in Charlotte as they get to practice together more
7. Express North - similar to BBL with big athletic poles, but they didn't have consistent play on faceoffs, and not as much offensive firepower
8. LIE - a bit of a disappointment not making it to the final four of the North bracket. Skilled and well coached - not sure they have enough elite athletes right now

No big arguments here. I think this is a good take. I didn't see the East teams play but saw all of the North teams.
1. Venom was clearly the best. They are so well coached and you can see the kids are 100% bought in. They don't take bad shots and work everything within the system...the most talented and disciplined team.
2. I think Eclipse has a slight edge on 2way but really splitting hairs.
3. Eclipse, 2 Way, Blue Jays, FCA, LI Express (they beat Blue Jays sat, lost sunday) definitely in the next group and very good teams capable of making a run.
4. LI Express North is a tough one to figure out but a rung below those teams IMO. Saw them play 2Way and they could have won that game. In fact they were either tied or leading going into the 4th if memory serves. Basing this ranking on looking at tourney machine. Barely beat Legacy and lost badly to eclipse. Had 2 kids that stood out, LSM and Middie but they seemed to have to do it all.

Either way, was a good weekend of lacrosse and some serious talent on display.

Go look at the seeding GS,GA,GD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go look at the seeding GS,GA,GD

Why so cryptic? Tell us what your gripe is. Below are the tie breaker rules as laid out on the LWSC website. Are you saying that the seedings on day 2 did not follow the tie breaker rules below? Or are you stating that the round robin pools were not fair?

Tie Breakers will be as follows,Within Pools: Record, Head to Head, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip
Tie Breakers within Divisions: Record, Pool Place, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip
Max score differential per game will be capped at 10 goals

Eclipse was ranked 47 in USCL at the end of last summer. BTB, Rebels, Cavalry, etc were all ranked higher. How did Eclipse make such a big leap? They looked good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the folks in DE this weekend, how would you rank the teams you saw? Here's my take . . .

1. Venom - most balanced team, unselfish offense with great shooters everywhere - clearly the team to beat in Charlotte
2. 2Way - some of the best individual offensive players in DE this weekend - 44, 1, 16, 26 - all are studs, had to face off w pole vs Venom which will hurt
3. BBL - big athletic defense with good fogo will keep games close, but will need to score more to keep up with Venom
4. Eclipse - surprisingly strong performance this weekend - 7 is smooth
5. Freedom - balanced team, good goalie, not sure they have the alphas on offense to beat the better defenders
6. Blue Jays - some good pieces, got stronger as the weekend went on, will likely be a much stronger team in Charlotte as they get to practice together more
7. Express North - similar to BBL with big athletic poles, but they didn't have consistent play on faceoffs, and not as much offensive firepower
8. LIE - a bit of a disappointment not making it to the final four of the North bracket. Skilled and well coached - not sure they have enough elite athletes right now

North is not above LI express. Not on any given day. They struggled with Legacy who continues to lose by growing margins to good teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some played better than expected. Some played worse than expected. Congrats to all who qualified. Have fun watching venom down south.

Someone made a huge mistake or it was done on purpose.Team seeding was wrong!

Seeding was taken from the end of year 2022 club season. It wasn't wrong, it's just how it was done. This is also the first time anyone is seeing any of the world series eligible teams so there is no other way to do it. You don't know who has aged out or who plays up with 2027's. Everyone had to beat good teams to qualify.

Did you look to see who was seeded wrong on Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse was ranked 47 in USCL at the end of last summer. BTB, Rebels, Cavalry, etc were all ranked higher. How did Eclipse make such a big leap? They looked good.

These are world series rosters, not the actual club "2028" rosters.

Eclipse has an outstanding attackman who plays with the 27's normally. They also added pieces since last year, as all teams did. Theirs are better! This is a different year with teams changing after tryouts and defections after last summer. As a poster already said above, some kids play up with the 27's or even are 27's and can play in this event because it's age and not grade based.

Eclipse is clearly a VERY different team. I'm sure others are as well.

I was also very impressed with 2WAY. They are one of the few Northeast teams with a slew of holdbacks and they showed very well. They will be tough when the holdbacks get added back to the roster during summer (normal 2028 team vs world series team).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the folks in DE this weekend, how would you rank the teams you saw? Here's my take . . .

1. Venom - most balanced team, unselfish offense with great shooters everywhere - clearly the team to beat in Charlotte
2. 2Way - some of the best individual offensive players in DE this weekend - 44, 1, 16, 26 - all are studs, had to face off w pole vs Venom which will hurt
3. BBL - big athletic defense with good fogo will keep games close, but will need to score more to keep up with Venom
4. Eclipse - surprisingly strong performance this weekend - 7 is smooth
5. Freedom - balanced team, good goalie, not sure they have the alphas on offense to beat the better defenders
6. Blue Jays - some good pieces, got stronger as the weekend went on, will likely be a much stronger team in Charlotte as they get to practice together more
7. Express North - similar to BBL with big athletic poles, but they didn't have consistent play on faceoffs, and not as much offensive firepower
8. LIE - a bit of a disappointment not making it to the final four of the North bracket. Skilled and well coached - not sure they have enough elite athletes right now

North is not above LI express. Not on any given day. They struggled with Legacy who continues to lose by growing margins to good teams.

Agree. Our coaches think they have talent but they are an all or nothing fast break team. If you slow them down and make them play 6 v 6, the only set they run is to give it to one kid and watch him try to beat 3 defenders. Easy scout.

Anyone have a view of PrimeTime? They seem to have fallen off a cliff. Obviously very good at HS level but the 2028 team is struggling. I don't think they were competitive this weekend and it doesn't add up given the success of the older grades.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can say with certainty many of the on age parents in MD talked about doing a Blue Jays type team last fall.

Actually there were two separate groups that I know of looking to get the on age HoCo kids to play.

But then folks saw the qualifier was the same week as the first week of the HoCo season and couldn’t get enough commitments.

It [Censored] but if it was a week earlier, who knows, things may have materialized. It would have been fun for the boys, my son included.

I will say that even with that, many of MD the on age kids and parents that I know just weren’t excited or motivated to do it. It’s not really a big deal like it is in the north.

Defeats the whole purpose of the World Series. These are supposed to be club teams not all star teams but why ask people from Maryland to follow the rules….they never do! Blue Jays “team” disbands the day after the W.S.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can say with certainty many of the on age parents in MD talked about doing a Blue Jays type team last fall.

Actually there were two separate groups that I know of looking to get the on age HoCo kids to play.

But then folks saw the qualifier was the same week as the first week of the HoCo season and couldn’t get enough commitments.

It [Censored] but if it was a week earlier, who knows, things may have materialized. It would have been fun for the boys, my son included.

I will say that even with that, many of MD the on age kids and parents that I know just weren’t excited or motivated to do it. It’s not really a big deal like it is in the north.

Defeats the whole purpose of the World Series. These are supposed to be club teams not all star teams but why ask people from Maryland to follow the rules….they never do! Blue Jays “team” disbands the day after the W.S.

Agreed. Blue Jays are the equivalent of a hypothetical LI All-Stars, NJ All Stars, CT All stars... Not a club team and only put together for this one event.

From the World Series website Rules: "Partnerships or alliances between two or more clubs to create a team is not permitted"

Blue Jays is exactly that. A mix of 4leaf, laxachussets, etc. Honestly, let the kids play, they are 13 years old. But to pretend to be a real club is a bit much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse was ranked 47 in USCL at the end of last summer. BTB, Rebels, Cavalry, etc were all ranked higher. How did Eclipse make such a big leap? They looked good.

Holdbacks.

Defeats the whole purpose of the World Series. These are supposed to be club teams not all star teams but why ask people from Maryland to follow the rules….they never do! Blue Jays “team” disbands the day after the W.S.[/quote]

The nitpicking on here is laughable. Everybody rips the Blue Jays but how many teams had ‘27s join them (hello, Machine boys)? How many holdbacks on each team - those ‘fall baby’ kids born before the NY December cutoff? All of these teams were all-star teams of some construct or another and all clubs benefit financially from loading up on players but what about the kids who went down and didn’t play? They watch 8th graders take their spots and they’re supposed to be OK with this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can say with certainty many of the on age parents in MD talked about doing a Blue Jays type team last fall.

Actually there were two separate groups that I know of looking to get the on age HoCo kids to play.

But then folks saw the qualifier was the same week as the first week of the HoCo season and couldn’t get enough commitments.

It [Censored] but if it was a week earlier, who knows, things may have materialized. It would have been fun for the boys, my son included.

I will say that even with that, many of MD the on age kids and parents that I know just weren’t excited or motivated to do it. It’s not really a big deal like it is in the north.

Defeats the whole purpose of the World Series. These are supposed to be club teams not all star teams but why ask people from Maryland to follow the rules….they never do! Blue Jays “team” disbands the day after the W.S.

I hear ya, but defining what qualifies as a team and what doesn't is not as black-and-white as the age rules.

100 mile radius and playing some tourneys together is a good start. Not sure what other rules you would want.

Eclipse brought down some kids from the 27 team, does that mean their WS team is not a "real" team because they haven't all been playing together since 3rd grade?

Several teams added new players since last summer. Should they be eliminated?

It was such a fun weekend and a great experience for the boys. I want more kids to experience it. And I think the Blue Jays and True Md added to the event, didn't subtract from it.

In all honesty 2way should be considered an all star team as well. They brought in kids for their World Series team from Massachusetts, New Jersey and Long Island.

The 100 mile rule works in rural areas but is abused by many teams ie Bluejays and 2way and I’m sure others in no rural areas. Most everything posted by 2way on Instagram is a 2027 from the towermen… pulling in people from other clubs should not be allowed, age appropriate from in organization is much easier to justify in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Defeats the whole purpose of the World Series. These are supposed to be club teams not all star teams but why ask people from Maryland to follow the rules….they never do! Blue Jays “team” disbands the day after the W.S.

The nitpicking on here is laughable. Everybody rips the Blue Jays but how many teams had ‘27s join them (hello, Machine boys)? How many holdbacks on each team - those ‘fall baby’ kids born before the NY December cutoff? All of these teams were all-star teams of some construct or another and all clubs benefit financially from loading up on players but what about the kids who went down and didn’t play? They watch 8th graders take their spots and they’re supposed to be OK with this?[/quote]

I don't think anyone is calling out Blue Jays for having 8th graders on the team. This is a U13 tournament, not a grade based tournament. It's actually the only level playing field out there. The knock on Blue Jays is that they aren't an actual club. It is quite literally an all-start team that we will never see again once the world series is over. You won't play them or see them in any tournament after July 4 - that's the actual gripe (albeit a quiet one that nobody is losing any sleep over). Machine might have had a kid who plays 27's play with them but that is within the rules as long as the kid was born after 9/1/09 and actually plays within the 91 Machine program.

It's not nitpicking, those are the actual rules of the World Series.

I am fine with the bluejays playing because why would we deprive a 13 year old from a memorable experience?. However, it does highlight the holdback philosophy of the mass/nh clubs - they can't field a competitive on-age team within their club system.

They are not a team. Also it clearly says no combined teams to make one team. It’s not fair to clubs who play all year around and get beat by their organization that is loaded with holdbacks that you choose to join. Blue jays are true definition of having your cake and eating to.

What teams from the north qualified?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are not a team. Also it clearly says no combined teams to make one team. It’s not fair to clubs who play all year around and get beat by their organization that is loaded with holdbacks that you choose to join. Blue jays are true definition of having your cake and eating to.

Will someone please call this LI express dad a whambulance!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you look to see who was seeded wrong on Sunday.

Who??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams from the north qualified?

Venom
Eclipse
2Way
Blue Jays
LI Express
Upstate FCA
Express North
Sweetlax Upstate
Orange Crush
Legacy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse was ranked 47 in USCL at the end of last summer. BTB, Rebels, Cavalry, etc were all ranked higher. How did Eclipse make such a big leap? They looked good.

Holdbacks.

It's actually the opposite of holdbacks - it's kids who play up. What a concept!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are not a team. Also it clearly says no combined teams to make one team. It’s not fair to clubs who play all year around and get beat by their organization that is loaded with holdbacks that you choose to join. Blue jays are true definition of having your cake and eating to.

Will someone please call this LI express dad a whambulance!

I agree, and my kid is on Express. We [Censored] on Sunday and got what we earned. Next time, maybe we get the kids to bed early—just a thought.

7 on eclipse is a 27, played on that highly competitive team but is age appropriate for u13.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 on eclipse is a 27, played on that highly competitive team but is age appropriate for u13.

Didn’t see semis but Final was streamed live. Eclipse barely had possession. Tough to beat 91 without the ball

2Way always has a ton of holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2Way always has a ton of holdbacks.

1 and 8 from last summer are deep holdbacks, but haven’t even been held back. In 8th grade playing on 7th grade teams last summer. So weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2Way always has a ton of holdbacks.

Agreed, however even without their older kids that’s a very good and very big team. Although there seems to be some chatter that this wsyl roster has on age kids from several different clubs. Given 2ways past rosters I would think it’s true and they have kids from 99.9 miles away just for this event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2Way always has a ton of holdbacks.

1 and 8 from last summer are deep holdbacks, but haven’t even been held back. In 8th grade playing on 7th grade teams last summer. So weak.

2Way and Leading Edge do this and get away with it repeatedly.

Everyone knows it.

It’s the weakest thing in all of 2028.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2Way always has a ton of holdbacks.

1 and 8 from last summer are deep holdbacks, but haven’t even been held back. In 8th grade playing on 7th grade teams last summer. So weak.

2Way and Leading Edge do this and get away with it repeatedly.

Everyone knows it.

It’s the weakest thing in all of 2028.

Guess your team didn't qualify. Stop complaining and play the game. Should I complain that some kids in 7th grade are over 6 feet and mine is 5 feet? Who cares! Kids don't care and are not complaining just parents that never made it as an athlete in high school and now trying to live through their kids.

2way not even smart enough to change their numbers is the best part about it. Zero effort there 2way. Cheat better.

Seriously though I bet almost all top teams do this.. some like the 2 mentioned above more than others maybe, who knows. Wish there was more integrity out there from parents and programs. Poor examples being set and doing things the right way is more important than winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2Way always has a ton of holdbacks.

1 and 8 from last summer are deep holdbacks, but haven’t even been held back. In 8th grade playing on 7th grade teams last summer. So weak.

2Way and Leading Edge do this and get away with it repeatedly.

Everyone knows it.

It’s the weakest thing in all of 2028.

Guess your team didn't qualify. Stop complaining and play the game. Should I complain that some kids in 7th grade are over 6 feet and mine is 5 feet? Who cares! Kids don't care and are not complaining just parents that never made it as an athlete in high school and now trying to live through their kids.

Holdback Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I hope you are joking? MadLax has about 75% of its offense generated by one player, who is 15 years old, and without him this weekend they were spanked 12-1! such great development of the other kids on the roster.

The kid isn't 15, get real. But he is a reclass back about 5 years ago and was forced to move down to make room for kids ML snagged from BLC so that coach's kid could play left attack. He's 14, December birth is the word from ML parents. But to point ... ML offense sputters without him. Their attack, although skilled, is just way too small and get destroyed. When he is there drawing double and triple teams is when the other kids score. If he played attack ML would be more dangerous but they run him at middie. ML is looking at at least 3 losses in HOCO this spring and are playing BBL and Venom in May. Likely L's if they don't bring in the national helpers. Maybe they can rent a few Red Hots.

He will be 15 yr old this Fall when Long Island kids are 13. Ridiculous!!!

True Lacrosse LI?? Any thoughts or info?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Lacrosse LI?? Any thoughts or info?

Yeah. Reclass your kid and join up. That’s their national model.

Heard True was close to buying an existing LI Club program last year but it fell apart. That's all LI needs is another club program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Lacrosse LI?? Any thoughts or info?

Yeah. Reclass your kid and join up. That’s their national model.

True blue or true national?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Venom is a little nervous

They are really the only parents who care. All their FB posts are about them being #1 and the best on age team around. This means absolutely nothing. Check out your 91 Wolfpack team, same type of batsh*t parents all hyped about the WS, then 1 week later they take a loss on a Saturday, and leave without even playing their Sunday games. Paper champs.

Ranked number 1 at 12/13 years old. In a sport that has no future. It may help you get into a great college but beyond that its a dead end. Even the PLL games don't draw crowds. Its a great sport and kids love it. The adults are ruining it and the club scene has turned into a huge money making business at the expense of our kids.

I have seen very little “we are #1” from venom. The 91 animonsity on here is out of control

Madlax is the best team. Spanked Venom soundly the ne time they played. Did the same to 2Way at NLF.

I hope you are joking? MadLax has about 75% of its offense generated by one player, who is 15 years old, and without him this weekend they were spanked 12-1! such great development of the other kids on the roster.

The kid isn't 15, get real. But he is a reclass back about 5 years ago and was forced to move down to make room for kids ML snagged from BLC so that coach's kid could play left attack. He's 14, December birth is the word from ML parents. But to point ... ML offense sputters without him. Their attack, although skilled, is just way too small and get destroyed. When he is there drawing double and triple teams is when the other kids score. If he played attack ML would be more dangerous but they run him at middie. ML is looking at at least 3 losses in HOCO this spring and are playing BBL and Venom in May. Likely L's if they don't bring in the national helpers. Maybe they can rent a few Red Hots.

He will be 15 yr old this Fall when Long Island kids are 13. Ridiculous!!!

Ridiculous, nope. That's the current system. Wait until the first transgender shows up and starts dominating girls lax. It's coming and then everyone will look back on the reclass discussion as trivial. What is ridiculous is people taking a dead end sport way too seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Lacrosse LI?? Any thoughts or info?

Yeah. Reclass your kid and join up. That’s their national model.

True blue or true national?

True National is coming to LI for next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Lacrosse LI?? Any thoughts or info?

Yeah. Reclass your kid and join up. That’s their national model.

True blue or true national?

True National is coming to LI for next year.

Big changes coming to LI Club Lacrosse. A new way of doing business that has a proven record of player development, professionalism and a real family atmosphere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Lacrosse LI?? Any thoughts or info?

Yeah. Reclass your kid and join up. That’s their national model.

True blue or true national?

True National is coming to LI for next year.

Big changes coming to LI Club Lacrosse. A new way of doing business that has a proven record of player development, professionalism and a real family atmosphere.

They are offering clinics for $15

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard True was close to buying an existing LI Club program last year but it fell apart. That's all LI needs is another club program.

Check in with Baltimore and DC area parents and see what they think. They’ve been doing that down there for years and from what I hear there are some tales to tell. Cautionary tales but tales just the same. 😂

Why are 860 Lacrosse (All 2Way AA Players), Igloo Northmen and Surge in a B tournament with Legacy Dune Dawgs and GSB? You want to brag on social media about winning a tournament. 3 teams that participated in the WS Qualifiers should not be in a B tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are 860 Lacrosse (All 2Way AA Players), Igloo Northmen and Surge in a B tournament with Legacy Dune Dawgs and GSB? You want to brag on social media about winning a tournament. 3 teams that participated in the WS Qualifiers should not be in a B tournament.

Curious about this too

Surge/Rage/Power etc are all high level B teams. Hence why they’re in this tournament.

Surge has dropped out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are 860 Lacrosse (All 2Way AA Players), Igloo Northmen and Surge in a B tournament with Legacy Dune Dawgs and GSB? You want to brag on social media about winning a tournament. 3 teams that participated in the WS Qualifiers should not be in a B tournament.

Curious about this too

Hi Karen’s, what tournament are you referring to?

I don’t see Surge listed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are 860 Lacrosse (All 2Way AA Players), Igloo Northmen and Surge in a B tournament with Legacy Dune Dawgs and GSB? You want to brag on social media about winning a tournament. 3 teams that participated in the WS Qualifiers should not be in a B tournament.

Igloo northmen and surge are B teams
(Sorry igloo frost is a c team)

Surge is a B team. Where would you like them to play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are 860 Lacrosse (All 2Way AA Players), Igloo Northmen and Surge in a B tournament with Legacy Dune Dawgs and GSB? You want to brag on social media about winning a tournament. 3 teams that participated in the WS Qualifiers should not be in a B tournament.

Curious about this too

Hi Karen’s, what tournament are you referring to?

Spring Lax Jam

860 Lacrosse is a AA Team
Surge and Northmen are A Teams
Dune Dawgs, Frost and GSB are B Teams

Hey 91 Dad
Just an FYI

AA = A
A = B
B = C

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are 860 Lacrosse (All 2Way AA Players), Igloo Northmen and Surge in a B tournament with Legacy Dune Dawgs and GSB? You want to brag on social media about winning a tournament. 3 teams that participated in the WS Qualifiers should not be in a B tournament.

Curious about this too

Hi Karen’s, what tournament are you referring to?

Spring Lax Jam

By that logic, igloo frost shouldn’t have went to the qualifier. Also, team 860 is out of Hartford CT, the 2way kids on their roster play for 2way north not the 2way from Greenwich. It’s basically the equivalent to Express east end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are 860 Lacrosse (All 2Way AA Players), Igloo Northmen and Surge in a B tournament with Legacy Dune Dawgs and GSB? You want to brag on social media about winning a tournament. 3 teams that participated in the WS Qualifiers should not be in a B tournament.

Curious about this too

Hi Karen’s, what tournament are you referring to?

Spring Lax Jam

By that logic, igloo frost shouldn’t have went to the qualifier. Also, team 860 is out of Hartford CT, the 2way kids on their roster play for 2way north not the 2way from Greenwich. It’s basically the equivalent to Express east end.

Igloo Northmen should have joined the 2027 bracket if they wanted to play in that tournament.

Morning-have to say i enjoy reading all these comments. Learning quite a bit about the travel lacrosse world.

Looking for some info-i always hear about 91, Express, Legacy in Suffolk. Have rarely seen 91 play, but I'm aware they're impressive. Is there any part of their team (poles, middles, attack) that is NOT great? Is it the coaching that separates them? Is there any one position that isn't as good as the other?

What about Express? My son has played them several times-I notice a huge number of players, some really skilled. A very good defense. Coaches seem a little nutty.

Legacy seems to have dropped off a bit. Any particular reason why? I know they have some amazing teams in the program and some not so great. Just wondering what the difference is between these 3 and why there is such a gap between 91 and everyone else.
Appreciate everyone's input.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Morning-have to say i enjoy reading all these comments. Learning quite a bit about the travel lacrosse world.

Looking for some info-i always hear about 91, Express, Legacy in Suffolk. Have rarely seen 91 play, but I'm aware they're impressive. Is there any part of their team (poles, middles, attack) that is NOT great? Is it the coaching that separates them? Is there any one position that isn't as good as the other?

What about Express? My son has played them several times-I notice a huge number of players, some really skilled. A very good defense. Coaches seem a little nutty.

Legacy seems to have dropped off a bit. Any particular reason why? I know they have some amazing teams in the program and some not so great. Just wondering what the difference is between these 3 and why there is such a gap between 91 and everyone else.
Appreciate everyone's input.

Easy to understand concept.

91 has the most depth and more top tier players.
Express has the second most depth and slightly fewer top tier players
Legacy has the third most depth and slightly fewer top tier players.

All three teams have talent and good players.

do these teams typically retain players year after year? I look at programs in HS, College and pros that have success. Coaches are constant fixtures, the kids don't leave to go to other programs. Do most of these 91 kids typically come up through the program? I know each year you can grab a couple here or there, but for the most part, are these successful programs because kids have been with them since the early grades?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

do these teams typically retain players year after year? I look at programs in HS, College and pros that have success. Coaches are constant fixtures, the kids don't leave to go to other programs. Do most of these 91 kids typically come up through the program? I know each year you can grab a couple here or there, but for the most part, are these successful programs because kids have been with them since the early grades?

Simple answer is most kids that start at 91/Express try to stay. Each team gets players from other clubs each year. 91 has higher concentration of Dad coaches. Express has many parochial school coaches. Most of the top talent eventually does try to make it to these 2 teams and depending on the age group they flip flop between who is #1 and #2 on the island.

Dominating performance by the Igloo Northmen in the Spring Lax Jam. Great job!

860 80% Glastonbury CT boys have played together and been coach by same parents In the town program since they where 4 years old. Some boys played for different club teams found there fit. 860 looked to where the best lax spring season is and Long Island was the place to play. Too much politics and opinions let the boys play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dominating performance by the Igloo Northmen in the Spring Lax Jam. Great job!

Seriously? They barely beat Legacy Dune Dawgs. Igloo was outplayed the whole game and that is with them being man up most of it. I expected a lot more from a team that was expecting to qualify for the WS and also considers themselves "AA". What a pathetic post. Congrats on winning a "C" tournament.

The Frost GSB game was fun to watch, both teams played physical lacrosse in fool rain. Frost came away with the 1 goal W in a hard fought battle. People always talking AA this B that, really It's just fun to watch our kid's teams with comparable skill and determination duke it out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Frost GSB game was fun to watch, both teams played physical lacrosse in fool rain. Frost came away with the 1 goal W in a hard fought battle. People always talking AA this B that, really It's just fun to watch our kid's teams with comparable skill and determination duke it out.

This.
Don’t let the trolls on here interfere with you enjoying watching your son play lacrosse no matter what level or team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dominating performance by the Igloo Northmen in the Spring Lax Jam. Great job!

Seriously? They barely beat Legacy Dune Dawgs. Igloo was outplayed the whole game and that is with them being man up most of it. I expected a lot more from a team that was expecting to qualify for the WS and also considers themselves "AA". What a pathetic post. Congrats on winning a "C" tournament.

Do you realize how demeaning this is to the kids and parents from the teams participating in this tournament?
You are pathetic.

appreciate the insight. at what age/grade would you say is the latest to move teams?

Any age - There are plenty of teams with small rosters that do the right thing by kids and parents. For example a few kids left my sons team last year for “Bigger/Better” programs. Some of those kids start and play while some don’t see the field on their new team.

Biggest thing to avoid at this age are “Daddy” coaches. They will always be bias towards the kids from their town and their own kids. 99% of them never even coached a varsity/JV/ or middle school game. Let alone haven’t played in 25+years.

Look at the radius rule in Colorado. Yes, the Kings 2027 team is legit and local. After playing against them in spring an summer they are all great athletes with great sportsmanship as well. They are the true "club" team to make the WS and be competitive.

Then their 2028 WS team took kids from all of Denver, north and south 50 miles, etc. They gained kids from at least three different national clubs to qualify. 50 miles in Colorado opens up the entire metro area and pulls from nearly 4 million of population to make a team.

Are the Long Island games picked by Directors/Coaches or do parents submit applications with videos? Some players that are listed and not listed are shocking.

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

There are "B" players on the list. Its a list of kids the FLG guys know or heard of. It's not a true list of the best players at this age group. They don't even have boys teams at that age. They are great for the girls game. Not the boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

There are "B" players on the list. Its a list of kids the FLG guys know or heard of. It's not a true list of the best players at this age group. They don't even have boys teams at that age. They are great for the girls game. Not the boys.

Legacy parents are hurt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

There are "B" players on the list. Its a list of kids the FLG guys know or heard of. It's not a true list of the best players at this age group. They don't even have boys teams at that age. They are great for the girls game. Not the boys.

Legacy parents are hurt.

As a parent of a 2028 that plays on a good team, I know my son is not on the list nor should he be! But, there are some kids on this list that he saw (B Team players) that he knows he is better than. Hopefully it drives kids to work harder and parents don't get too high and mighty about their little Jimmy making a list of players selected by a group of people who do not follow boys, youth lacrosse. LILJ is awesome at the high school level and promoting JV/Varsity athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

There are "B" players on the list. Its a list of kids the FLG guys know or heard of. It's not a true list of the best players at this age group. They don't even have boys teams at that age. They are great for the girls game. Not the boys.

Legacy parents are hurt.

As a parent of a 2028 that plays on a good team, I know my son is not on the list nor should he be! But, there are some kids on this list that he saw (B Team players) that he knows he is better than. Hopefully it drives kids to work harder and parents don't get too high and mighty about their little Jimmy making a list of players selected by a group of people who do not follow boys, youth lacrosse. LILJ is awesome at the high school level and promoting JV/Varsity athletes.

Top 2028 goalie left off. Utterly Ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

There are "B" players on the list. Its a list of kids the FLG guys know or heard of. It's not a true list of the best players at this age group. They don't even have boys teams at that age. They are great for the girls game. Not the boys.

Legacy parents are hurt.

Huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

There are "B" players on the list. Its a list of kids the FLG guys know or heard of. It's not a true list of the best players at this age group. They don't even have boys teams at that age. They are great for the girls game. Not the boys.

Legacy parents are hurt.

As a parent of a 2028 that plays on a good team, I know my son is not on the list nor should he be! But, there are some kids on this list that he saw (B Team players) that he knows he is better than. Hopefully it drives kids to work harder and parents don't get too high and mighty about their little Jimmy making a list of players selected by a group of people who do not follow boys, youth lacrosse. LILJ is awesome at the high school level and promoting JV/Varsity athletes.

Top 2028 goalie left off. Utterly Ridiculous.

Yup - Wave 1 has the starting attack from a team which scored 16 total goals in 5 games and didn't make the WS.
Complete Joke!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

My older guy did it and it’s a complete money grab. Some good players and some not so good players. You pay for the games and the uniform. You are right that some clubs are completely left off the list. I know on the girls side they don’t invite any top guns players. Everyone who did it last year just got an automatic invite for this year. LILJ has tapped into a market for Instagram stars. It’s so every parent can share on Instagram their kid was selected. It’s a joke

So how are the selections made? And by who? Just based on social media presence? I see some very good players that are deserving on the list as well as some players I never heard of. Also, some good players were left off. But back to my original question, who is making these decisions and how are they even seeing these kids play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how are the selections made? And by who? Just based on social media presence? I see some very good players that are deserving on the list as well as some players I never heard of. Also, some good players were left off. But back to my original question, who is making these decisions and how are they even seeing these kids play?

The coaches from the programs they’re from submit who they want. Not age based either. For example a hold back can make the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how are the selections made? And by who? Just based on social media presence? I see some very good players that are deserving on the list as well as some players I never heard of. Also, some good players were left off. But back to my original question, who is making these decisions and how are they even seeing these kids play?

The coaches from the programs they’re from submit who they want. Not age based either. For example a hold back can make the list.

So a coach is contacted and asked to submit the names of the top players on the team? I find this hard to believe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how are the selections made? And by who? Just based on social media presence? I see some very good players that are deserving on the list as well as some players I never heard of. Also, some good players were left off. But back to my original question, who is making these decisions and how are they even seeing these kids play?

The coaches from the programs they’re from submit who they want. Not age based either. For example a hold back can make the list.

So a coach is contacted and asked to submit the names of the top players on the team? I find this hard to believe.

Why is that hard to believe? How else would they get the names- Unless a coach submits it.

There is no official roster out there for any of these teams. There is also no official stats for any of the players listed. So the only way for LIJL to get the names is by coaches recommendation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seems like a joke and money grab. Only certain players from certain clubs getting invite. For example a bunch of players from one club got invite and they didn’t even qualify for WS!!

My older guy did it and it’s a complete money grab. Some good players and some not so good players. You pay for the games and the uniform. You are right that some clubs are completely left off the list. I know on the girls side they don’t invite any top guns players. Everyone who did it last year just got an automatic invite for this year. LILJ has tapped into a market for Instagram stars. It’s so every parent can share on Instagram their kid was selected. It’s a joke

How much does it cost to play in the game?

I don’t know if the boys side is the same. But the girls are selected from those that attended their camps clinics and games. If you don’t attend any of them you can’t get selected which is why you see a lot of top players not on the list-they didn’t pay to attend their programs.

Pequa won A bracket and Three Village the B Bracket.

Only saw top bracket and it was a good fun day of lax. Some competitive games for us. Sad to see Ward Melville play down in B bracket w other less competitive town teams.

Good lax played in top bracket. Ward Melville and Smithtown should be embarrassed playing in lower one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good lax played in top bracket. Ward Melville and Smithtown should be embarrassed playing in lower one.

Smithtown has a 7/8 grade team not just 8th. Should have won but refs made a huge impact in final game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good lax played in top bracket. Ward Melville and Smithtown should be embarrassed playing in lower one.

Smithtown has a 7/8 grade team not just 8th. Should have won but refs made a huge impact in final game.

Spoken like a true smithtown parent.

Blatant Spring Jam predictions???
Any potential upsets??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how are the selections made? And by who? Just based on social media presence? I see some very good players that are deserving on the list as well as some players I never heard of. Also, some good players were left off. But back to my original question, who is making these decisions and how are they even seeing these kids play?

The coaches from the programs they’re from submit who they want. Not age based either. For example a hold back can make the list.

So a coach is contacted and asked to submit the names of the top players on the team? I find this hard to believe.

Why is that hard to believe? How else would they get the names- Unless a coach submits it.

There is no official roster out there for any of these teams. There is also no official stats for any of the players listed. So the only way for LIJL to get the names is by coaches recommendation.

Remember it’s who your dad knows and who’s buttocks you kiss

We all know who knows who and how they are connected. It’s comical at this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Spring Jam predictions???
Any potential upsets??

The red division looks like some good matchups, but the blue division is going to be easy for Igloo Frost to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how are the selections made? And by who? Just based on social media presence? I see some very good players that are deserving on the list as well as some players I never heard of. Also, some good players were left off. But back to my original question, who is making these decisions and how are they even seeing these kids play?

The coaches from the programs they’re from submit who they want. Not age based either. For example a hold back can make the list.

So a coach is contacted and asked to submit the names of the top players on the team? I find this hard to believe.

Why is that hard to believe? How else would they get the names- Unless a coach submits it.

There is no official roster out there for any of these teams. There is also no official stats for any of the players listed. So the only way for LIJL to get the names is by coaches recommendation.

Remember it’s who your dad knows and who’s buttocks you kiss

We all know who knows who and how they are connected. It’s comical at this point.

If your so mad why don’t you complain on IG post of the 2028 and reveal yourself or stop complaining

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Spring Jam predictions???
Any potential upsets??

The red division looks like some good matchups, but the blue division is going to be easy for Igloo Frost to win.

Agreed. Surge in the Blue division would have made sense. Where is S2S?

Why would Surge play in the Blue when they can compete and beat all the teams in the Red other than Express ? Maybe your “A” team is worried they would lose to 91s second team ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would Surge play in the Blue when they can compete and beat all the teams in the Red other than Express ? Maybe your “A” team is worried they would lose to 91s second team ?

Like they did at the World Series?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Spring Jam predictions???
Any potential upsets??

The red division looks like some good matchups, but the blue division is going to be easy for Igloo Frost to win.

Agreed. Surge in the Blue division would have made sense. Where is S2S?

Surge would also dominate the blue division then. Just a big jump from Surge/Frost to some of the other blue teams.

Surge can compete with all the Blue teams except Express - lost by a couple of goals to Igloo, Shore. Have tied and lost to Rebels Hydra. Beat and lost to BTB Black. I would say that is competing. Why play teams you can beat 15-2 ? You get better playing better teams. But thanks for your input where teams should play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Surge can compete with all the Blue teams except Express - lost by a couple of goals to Igloo, Shore. Have tied and lost to Rebels Hydra. Beat and lost to BTB Black. I would say that is competing. Why play teams you can beat 15-2 ? You get better playing better teams. But thanks for your input where teams should play.

Agreed that teams get better playing better teams, but some don't see it that way. Frost will win the blue division, but not by playing better teams.

Way to stay classy East Islip and Smithtown! Both teams thrown out of a charity tournament. Embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Way to stay classy East Islip and Smithtown! Both teams thrown out of a charity tournament. Embarrassing.

Anyone know what this is about?

2027 EI and 2027/28 Smithtown game got cancelled due to a fight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2027 EI and 2027/28 Smithtown game got cancelled due to a fight

Shocker w that coach. Guy has been a problem since 1st grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Way to stay classy East Islip and Smithtown! Both teams thrown out of a charity tournament. Embarrassing.

Any truth to benches clearing? Parents and coaches on field?

That was a pretty wild scene, there's gotta be a video of it on the interwebs.
Kids and parents straight brawling at a tournament honoring a little kid that passed away.

Nice Action yesterday at Blantant! Express way above those teams, but I guess when you have a large roster it’s an opportunity to get all players in the game.
Rest of the teams in the AA bracket all equally strength. Nice to see a lot of 1-2 goal games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Way to stay classy East Islip and Smithtown! Both teams thrown out of a charity tournament. Embarrassing.

Any truth to benches clearing? Parents and coaches on field?

Just kids

Why does the Spring challenge schedule keeps changing

Heard 860 bailed

How are the fields at LIU Post- Spring Challenge right now?

They weren’t bad, but they canceled

Originally Posted by BiggLax

They weren’t bad, but they canceled

They rescheduling or just cxling

Any update eon the PAL championships? Not sure who made it in Nassau but in Suffolk it came down to Three Village, Farmingdale, Harborfields and Smithtown. Three village is the best of the group in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any update eon the PAL championships? Not sure who made it in Nassau but in Suffolk it came down to Three Village, Farmingdale, Harborfields and Smithtown. Three village is the best of the group in my opinion.

We lost to 3 Village and then beat Smithtown in the 3rd place game. Good day of lax.

Why do some towns have 7/8 grade PAL and most do not? What are the benefits? Our town does not bc all kids are playing club and middle school. I would think 3 teams would be tough to juggle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do some towns have 7/8 grade PAL and most do not? What are the benefits? Our town does not bc all kids are playing club and middle school. I would think 3 teams would be tough to juggle.

The towns that continue with pal 7/8 seem to be better for it. Others are too “I” to care about developing “TEAM”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do some towns have 7/8 grade PAL and most do not? What are the benefits? Our town does not bc all kids are playing club and middle school. I would think 3 teams would be tough to juggle.

The towns that continue with pal 7/8 seem to be better for it. Others are too “I” to care about developing “TEAM”

What teams are playing NAL June 9-10 in DE?

From Maryland Board…

“ It will be especially difficult because the 28 age group is still loaded with 27s who are exempt from the rule change. So the 29 holdback who returns to 28 will be competing with a bunch of kids 2 years older than they are used to.”

In case you needed more proof Maryland teams have older kids and our kids never get to play on a level playing field.Even with the NLF going to age verification our age group is left out. The current 8th graders haven’t finished school. Easily could have implemented the age verification in the 2028 class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From Maryland Board…

“ It will be especially difficult because the 28 age group is still loaded with 27s who are exempt from the rule change. So the 29 holdback who returns to 28 will be competing with a bunch of kids 2 years older than they are used to.”

In case you needed more proof Maryland teams have older kids and our kids never get to play on a level playing field.Even with the NLF going to age verification our age group is left out. The current 8th graders haven’t finished school. Easily could have implemented the age verification in the 2028 class.

Not sure where you a from but I'm from Southeastern PA and there are plenty of hold backs here.... look for the club kids with the private school helmets. PA parents whine about it when they lose but there are plenty on most of the competitive teams up here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Lacrosse LI?? Any thoughts or info?

Yeah. Reclass your kid and join up. That’s their national model.

True blue or true national?

True National is coming to LI for next year.

Big changes coming to LI Club Lacrosse. A new way of doing business that has a proven record of player development, professionalism and a real family atmosphere.

Shows old rebels coach as a director. Nothing new and exciting

Long Island teams didn’t do so good at the NLF.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island teams didn’t do so good at the NLF.

Seems like they both did well. Not sure what you are talking about:

Express- 3 and 2
Venom- 3 and 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island teams didn’t do so good at the NLF.

Seems like they both did well. Not sure what you are talking about:

Express- 3 and 2
Venom- 3 and 1

Seems like a pretty good weekend

Too bad those teams that beat them won’t be in the ws

And respect the fact that they are actually teams. Not a bunch of holdbacks pieced together for all over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island teams didn’t do so good at the NLF.

Seems like they both did well. Not sure what you are talking about:

Express- 3 and 2
Venom- 3 and 1

91 lost in OT
Express has a few very good wins and lost to 2 good teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island teams didn’t do so good at the NLF.

Seems like they both did well. Not sure what you are talking about:

Express- 3 and 2
Venom- 3 and 1

Seems like a pretty good weekend

Too bad those teams that beat them won’t be in the ws

And respect the fact that they are actually teams. Not a bunch of holdbacks pieced together for all over

So you’re saying that those teams just wanted to avoid the hassle of the World Series? But the teams that were there this weekend would qualify as per the rules? Lol

We played Leading Edge a couple of times this year. We could see a lot of the kids were wearing world series shirts from last year. I could only imagine who they brought down this past weekend and will for NAL. But cheaters gonna cheat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played Leading Edge a couple of times this year. We could see a lot of the kids were wearing world series shirts from last year. I could only imagine who they brought down this past weekend and will for NAL. But cheaters gonna cheat.

Everyone brings older kids.

Venom is 100 percent on age

Venom has a bunch of 09's - Only on age compared to US Lax Standard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom is 100 percent on age

Nobody cares.

Pick up your 100% on age medals on your way out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom has a bunch of 09's - Only on age compared to US Lax Standard

What standard would you like to use? We aren’t playing soccer or hockey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom is 100 percent on age

Well considering the coach told me that they have several when I was standing with him at NLF last year, I find this to be…. False.

The bottom line is that Venom was expected to win last weekend and they didn't. They're very good but very beatable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is that Venom was expected to win last weekend and they didn't. They're very good but very beatable

Who ever wrote this needs to evaluate their life.

Im wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im wrong?

Question? Where can I find historical records on club team victories and individual scoring statistics? You know like Newsday has records for all the teams and players, where can I find the club records? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im wrong?

Not wrong in the amazing conclusion you came to saying they didn’t win. You sure are a genius.
Ridiculously wrong in calling them out when they can hang with teams that are just flat out older.
Do me a favor and come back here in early July after the WS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im wrong?

Not wrong in the amazing conclusion you came to saying they didn’t win. You sure are a genius.
Ridiculously wrong in calling them out when they can hang with teams that are just flat out older.
Do me a favor and come back here in early July after the WS

Then Venom shouldn’t enter any tournaments at all other than the WS championships or whatever it’s called.

It’s beyond tiresome whenever your team loses to hear the same refrain.

Seriously either show up and play like everyone else or just stop coming. Trust me you won’t be missed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im wrong?

Not wrong in the amazing conclusion you came to saying they didn’t win. You sure are a genius.
Ridiculously wrong in calling them out when they can hang with teams that are just flat out older.
Do me a favor and come back here in early July after the WS

Then Venom shouldn’t enter any tournaments at all other than the WS championships or whatever it’s called.

It’s beyond tiresome whenever your team loses to hear the same refrain.

Seriously either show up and play like everyone else or just stop coming. Trust me you won’t be missed.

The stupidity*** is real for this one

So basically stop complaining that we need older kids to beat you. Got it.

Rhinos 28’s may be graduating in ‘28 but they are not 12/13yr olds

It’s a great day to be a Outlaw!

The USCL rankings have become a joke. They should have separate rankings for these national teams. Team Eighteen is ranked #3 and has played 2 games in 2023 and lost both of them. There are numerous examples of this. The teams that play often and play tough competition get shafted.

Us club rankings

Li teams that were in top 10 a few years ago are now in the 40’s or worse ouch

Talk about nightmares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im wrong?

Not wrong in the amazing conclusion you came to saying they didn’t win. You sure are a genius.
Ridiculously wrong in calling them out when they can hang with teams that are just flat out older.
Do me a favor and come back here in early July after the WS

Then Venom shouldn’t enter any tournaments at all other than the WS championships or whatever it’s called.

It’s beyond tiresome whenever your team loses to hear the same refrain.

Seriously either show up and play like everyone else or just stop coming. Trust me you won’t be missed.

The stupidity*** is real for this one

So basically stop complaining that we need older kids to beat you. Got it.

Again - your team literally CRIES more than any other team in the country.

It’s old and tired. Entitled whiny LI crybabies.

Seriously just stop coming to tournaments then.

And no my kid is not a hold back but plays on a team with a few. It’s not fair. Shouldn’t happen. But it is what it is.

Stop the victimized drivel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The USCL rankings have become a joke. They should have separate rankings for these national teams. Team Eighteen is ranked #3 and has played 2 games in 2023 and lost both of them. There are numerous examples of this. The teams that play often and play tough competition get shafted.

When were they not a joke?

There is a post on their webpage defending why a 1 win team is in the top ten for 2029.

It’s nonsense.

(Except when 91 is #1 of course then they are not problematic at all). /s

Please let Tristar schedules stay the way they are!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The USCL rankings have become a joke. They should have separate rankings for these national teams. Team Eighteen is ranked #3 and has played 2 games in 2023 and lost both of them. There are numerous examples of this. The teams that play often and play tough competition get shafted.

When were they not a joke?

There is a post on their webpage defending why a 1 win team is in the top ten for 2029.

It’s nonsense.

(Except when 91 is #1 of course then they are not problematic at all). /s

Rankings are the same algorithm as the NCAA uses. Strength of schedule matters. I have no idea who team 18 is but they lost by 1 and 3 to the #4 and 7 teams in the country respectively so those losses are not enough to move the needle that much based on their 6-2 record prior to those two losses. Not sure why people are whining about the math. If Team 18 is bad it will all even out by the end of the season.

I can’t believe LE is not at tri star. What a joke. Ditch lax fest and play with the big boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Us club rankings

Li teams that were in top 10 a few years ago are now in the 40’s or worse ouch

Talk about nightmares

We played Express North yesterday at NAL. They are by far the biggest team we have seen at 2028 level, and now one of the best. Where did they get all these kids? Are they holdbacks? We know there are a lot of those in the private schools of CT and Westchester. Either way— totally different team this summer. Lot of odd ball helmets too, so clearly some new talent.

Please don’t mention express and 91 in the same post. Express has won nothing. Venom wins everything. It’s not even a rivalry. 91 is undefeated vs Chucks. It’s kind of embarrassing even with the 40 kids on Chuck’s sideline.

S2S what happened to them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can’t believe LE is not at tri star. What a joke. Ditch lax fest and play with the big boys.

Who is LE

Mad Dog National had a kid fly in from Vegas and a kid drove in from Pitt…classic! Strong team but saw them lose to Duke’s and Annapolis. Gonna be a long ride home

S2S is on the right path. Team is better than it was last year at this point. Had a tough schedule and a few injuries. Today had some kids with conflicts and only 2-3 subs. The kids played hard till the end. No one likes losing but as far as “what happened” that is it. Team on right path. Hopefully that is what you were looking for and not “stirring things up”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can’t believe LE is not at tri star. What a joke. Ditch lax fest and play with the big boys.

Who is LE

Leading Edge, c’mon coach, enter us in tri star

Yikes! 2-3 subs “conflicts” sounds like ever since they got rid of the coach nothing but problems with how that team is managed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is that Venom was expected to win last weekend and they didn't. They're very good but very beatable

^^^THIS^^^

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can’t believe LE is not at tri star. What a joke. Ditch lax fest and play with the big boys.

Who is LE

Leading Edge, c’mon coach, enter us in tri star

At least play in the ‘27 bracket if you do lax fest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The USCL rankings have become a joke. They should have separate rankings for these national teams. Team Eighteen is ranked #3 and has played 2 games in 2023 and lost both of them. There are numerous examples of this. The teams that play often and play tough competition get shafted.

When were they not a joke?

There is a post on their webpage defending why a 1 win team is in the top ten for 2029.

It’s nonsense.

(Except when 91 is #1 of course then they are not problematic at all). /s

Rankings are the same algorithm as the NCAA uses. Strength of schedule matters. I have no idea who team 18 is but they lost by 1 and 3 to the #4 and 7 teams in the country respectively so those losses are not enough to move the needle that much based on their 6-2 record prior to those two losses. Not sure why people are whining about the math. If Team 18 is bad it will all even out by the end of the season.

And basically everyone has a problem with the NCAA rankings every year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The USCL rankings have become a joke. They should have separate rankings for these national teams. Team Eighteen is ranked #3 and has played 2 games in 2023 and lost both of them. There are numerous examples of this. The teams that play often and play tough competition get shafted.

When were they not a joke?

There is a post on their webpage defending why a 1 win team is in the top ten for 2029.

It’s nonsense.

(Except when 91 is #1 of course then they are not problematic at all). /s

Rankings are the same algorithm as the NCAA uses. Strength of schedule matters. I have no idea who team 18 is but they lost by 1 and 3 to the #4 and 7 teams in the country respectively so those losses are not enough to move the needle that much based on their 6-2 record prior to those two losses. Not sure why people are whining about the math. If Team 18 is bad it will all even out by the end of the season.

Team 18 is on pace to play 4 games in 2023 and go 0-4. As long as it’s against good teams they’ll stay as the #3 team in the country. What a joke.

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

That’s some serious Express North disrespect

No disrespect intended. They are a good team. Who are you putting them in front of on that list?

The fact that North played zone at NAL this past weekend is embarrassing. Putting wins in a 7th grade tourney over the kids development is sad. If i were a defender on that team i’d be looking for a new team.

It would be one thing if they were overmatched on D. Thats not the case - they actually have big and talented poles.

Weak

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The USCL rankings have become a joke. They should have separate rankings for these national teams. Team Eighteen is ranked #3 and has played 2 games in 2023 and lost both of them. There are numerous examples of this. The teams that play often and play tough competition get shafted.

When were they not a joke?

There is a post on their webpage defending why a 1 win team is in the top ten for 2029.

It’s nonsense.

(Except when 91 is #1 of course then they are not problematic at all). /s

Rankings are the same algorithm as the NCAA uses. Strength of schedule matters. I have no idea who team 18 is but they lost by 1 and 3 to the #4 and 7 teams in the country respectively so those losses are not enough to move the needle that much based on their 6-2 record prior to those two losses. Not sure why people are whining about the math. If Team 18 is bad it will all even out by the end of the season.

Team 18 is on pace to play 4 games in 2023 and go 0-4. As long as it’s against good teams they’ll stay as the #3 team in the country. What a joke.

Still taking math over daddys opinions. The ranking system for USCL / NCAA may be flawed but instead of complaining about it on a forum, come up with your own mathematical system. Again no horse in this race but opinions matter as much as those who say the Jets are going to win the super bowl this year.

Legacy went 3-2 also, i believe.

S2S is a very talented team. My son's team has played them a few times, and I walk away very impressed. I feel like they're close, maybe missing a couple of pieces.

Heard parents are unhappy and top kids plan on moving on .... But I guess you hear about that with every club.

Not true. Stop being a troll.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that North played zone at NAL this past weekend is embarrassing. Putting wins in a 7th grade tourney over the kids development is sad. If i were a defender on that team i’d be looking for a new team.

It would be one thing if they were overmatched on D. Thats not the case - they actually have big and talented poles.

Weak

Couldn’t agree more. So weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

That’s some serious Express North disrespect

Having played Express North over the weekend— they are definitely top 2-3 on this list, and I suspect they win Tristar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy went 3-2 also, i believe.

Same old story they beat weak teams.
They get lambasted this weekend.
Some start to jump ship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2S is a very talented team. My son's team has played them a few times, and I walk away very impressed. I feel like they're close, maybe missing a couple of pieces.

Many of their pieces stayed home and didn’t show up to the NAL. Hardly any subs on the sidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2S is a very talented team. My son's team has played them a few times, and I walk away very impressed. I feel like they're close, maybe missing a couple of pieces.

Many of their pieces stayed home and didn’t show up to the NAL. Hardly any subs on the sidelines.

Why is that? They have not played tournaments since qualifiers so why not show up? Are players starting to look elsewhere?

That is what happens when you cater to one or two communities - they do what they want and could give two [Censored]$ about the other boys on the team. Sinking ship.

Yup, I have spoken with parents on that team. Sinking ship for sure! Parents should have saw the signs when they got rid of the coach.

Not true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup, I have spoken with parents on that team. Sinking ship for sure! Parents should have saw the signs when they got rid of the coach.

Which team are you guys talking about? S2s or legacy? I am having trouble tracking convo

I know why all the S2S kids were missing from NAL. They were too busy playing on the LILJ all star team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup, I have spoken with parents on that team. Sinking ship for sure! Parents should have saw the signs when they got rid of the coach.

Which coach

Sunday will sort itself out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

All good but for some reason you all had 3d Georgia too high. Weak team.
4 leaf made a big leap from how they competed last year. Makes you question the jump.

Big surprise Venom out of the running. Not good heading into WS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup, I have spoken with parents on that team. Sinking ship for sure! Parents should have saw the signs when they got rid of the coach.

Which coach

PW Varsity Coach - A lot of shady stuff went down previous season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don’t mention express and 91 in the same post. Express has won nothing. Venom wins everything. It’s not even a rivalry. 91 is undefeated vs Chucks. It’s kind of embarrassing even with the 40 kids on Chuck’s sideline.

Um, care to revise your statement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don’t mention express and 91 in the same post. Express has won nothing. Venom wins everything. It’s not even a rivalry. 91 is undefeated vs Chucks. It’s kind of embarrassing even with the 40 kids on Chuck’s sideline.

This did not age well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don’t mention express and 91 in the same post. Express has won nothing. Venom wins everything. It’s not even a rivalry. 91 is undefeated vs Chucks. It’s kind of embarrassing even with the 40 kids on Chuck’s sideline.

This did not age well

You’re the man now Dawg

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don’t mention express and 91 in the same post. Express has won nothing. Venom wins everything. It’s not even a rivalry. 91 is undefeated vs Chucks. It’s kind of embarrassing even with the 40 kids on Chuck’s sideline.

This did not age well

You’re the man now Dawg

91 Venom doesn’t even belong in the top 25 of the US Club Rankings— yet, somehow, they’ll be top 5 later this week. Whatever…

LI teams had a rough showing..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don’t mention express and 91 in the same post. Express has won nothing. Venom wins everything. It’s not even a rivalry. 91 is undefeated vs Chucks. It’s kind of embarrassing even with the 40 kids on Chuck’s sideline.

This did not age well

You’re the man now Dawg

91 Venom doesn’t even belong in the top 25 of the US Club Rankings— yet, somehow, they’ll be top 5 later this week. Whatever…

Yup they [Censored]

Didn’t Express just beat Lemon?

Rush made them sweat too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rush made them sweat too

Only reinforces the fact that some teams are not as great as people think and some are not that bad. They are 12/13 year olds. Venom still very good and teams like Rush can compete on any day. This age group is very talented and that makes it fun each weekend.

So basically it comes down to this.

1. Venom
2. Express
3. (in not particular order) Rebels, S2S, BTB, Rush, Legacy (all games btw them been close - No dominant one out of the group).

Going into tryouts if you kid is not playing on their given team find a team in tier 3 with a solid coach, core and low roster. Make sure there is spot opening to take and that the team doesn't cater to one or two particular towns. If you son isn't getting minutes in the tournaments they won't get better. Don't fall for sales pitches - I know a few kids who left starting roles on one team to sit the bench on another.

Too many of the clubs are money grabs - Make sure you ask the right questions!

hopefully the roster sizes go back to 20-23 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

After this weekend I will revise my above statement. Express North was not the 8th best team in the tournament.

My revised rankings:
3D NE
2Way
Eclipse
Express North
BBL Black
Laxachusetts Black
LI Express
Venom

Express North earned (more of) my respect this weekend. They played hard and beat us in all the hustle plays.

express Chucks and Express North VERY impressive this weekend. Venom did not impress, but maybe a slight bump in the road. Eclipse was tough, almost lost to Legacy Saturday, maybe they didn't take them seriously as Legacy was 0-2 heading into that game. Legacy did not impress. Son used to play for them, and they are good in spurts, but no consistency. No FOGO hurts, too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

express Chucks and Express North VERY impressive this weekend. Venom did not impress, but maybe a slight bump in the road. Eclipse was tough, almost lost to Legacy Saturday, maybe they didn't take them seriously as Legacy was 0-2 heading into that game. Legacy did not impress. Son used to play for them, and they are good in spurts, but no consistency. No FOGO hurts, too.

Valid post. Express getting better by the day. Venom still a great team. Legacy’s lack of a FOGO is hurting them as you can’t beat the best teams without possession. S2S, despite the nonsense posted one here, is a good team with a couple of really talented players.
No clue what to say about the express north team. Was it the world series team or the holdback team?

Learn from last year. Clubs like legacy had tryouts but already knew who they were taking before tryouts. Done deal🤝Save your time and money. They are imploding. Remember it’s who daddy knows with most clubs. So many phone calls are made by dads behind the scenes you would be AMAZED. The average kids with no pull are going to be overlooked unfortunately.

Usually not many spots open for venom but if they continue to struggle there will be movement there. They aren’t afraid to cut. The want to be on top is stronger with that club than most.

Roll the dice with express. They will take your money and your kid will be one of many.

The third tier teams, as someone mentioned above, could use 2-3 kids to get them over the hump. As long as throes teams keep there core of course.

Wrinkle to it all….After the dreams of WS are put to rest maybe this age group changes even more than expected

I always say, its better to be on a decent team where you're going to get a ton of playing time and be the man, verses being on a top team and getting limited time. That's how you get better, not by standing on the sideline with 20 other kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I always say, its better to be on a decent team where you're going to get a ton of playing time and be the man, verses being on a top team and getting limited time. That's how you get better, not by standing on the sideline with 20 other kids

If your son is not on man up or man down you may want to look elsewhere. That is a good barometer to see what role he plays and what the coaches think of him.

Can’t wait to see the reaction when WS instagram posts venom as #1 rank

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait to see the reaction when WS instagram posts venom as #1 rank

I don't expect a big response. LI wins it every year. Venom is the best team in LI this year. They deserve to be #1 until a non-LI team wins this thing. Based on recent results this could be the year . . . but I wouldn't bet against 91 putting it all together.

Winning the World Series of Lacrosse is like winning the qualifiers/NAL/Tri-Star. Just another tournament. It would be a lot cooler if it was towns competing against one another.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning the World Series of Lacrosse is like winning the qualifiers/NAL/Tri-Star. Just another tournament. It would be a lot cooler if it was towns competing against one another.

That would be cool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning the World Series of Lacrosse is like winning the qualifiers/NAL/Tri-Star. Just another tournament. It would be a lot cooler if it was towns competing against one another.

Was super cool for my older boys with the old World Series. Amazing event. This one is good but scaled back and not like the old one. Nice to see on age play. Makes a mockery of US Club rankings.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

After this weekend I will revise my above statement. Express North was not the 8th best team in the tournament.

My revised rankings:
3D NE
2Way
Eclipse
Express North
BBL Black
Laxachusetts Black
LI Express
Venom

Express North earned (more of) my respect this weekend. They played hard and beat us in all the hustle plays.

Express North amd 2Way are at the top of this list. At least if Exrpress North’s regular team is the one they brought to NAL

Here’s my thoughts on the second tier teams.

First off where was igloo and the rebels, shocked that they wouldn’t sign up for the best tournament on Long Island (tristar, no close second).

So in alphabetical order we have BTB, Igloo, Legacy, Rebels, Rush and S2S

BTB - lost most of their core players and the replacements have been pretty good but they still need a. Inch of pieces

Igloo & S2S - I place them together, but S2S is definitely a stronger team, from almost every parent I talk to on these teams they are hoping their kids make Venom or Chucks next year. S2S has some talented players

Legacy - by far of all the teams here has the highest talent pool, many of their non starters would be key players on other teams in this range. I don’t know them well enough to know if the problem is coaching or chemistry

Rebels - they added a few upgrades this year but they just don’t seem to have the top end players, and there is not much desire for top kids to go there except for free tuition

Rush - the least dynamic of all the rosters even though they lost 3 players to Legacy last year. They have a few big and skilled poles and a few good goal scorers. Their roster not changing much is a good and bad thing

Great question, I’m not sure. They always look huge to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here’s my thoughts on the second tier teams.

First off where was igloo and the rebels, shocked that they wouldn’t sign up for the best tournament on Long Island (tristar, no close second).

So in alphabetical order we have BTB, Igloo, Legacy, Rebels, Rush and S2S

BTB - lost most of their core players and the replacements have been pretty good but they still need a. Inch of pieces

Igloo & S2S - I place them together, but S2S is definitely a stronger team, from almost every parent I talk to on these teams they are hoping their kids make Venom or Chucks next year. S2S has some talented players

Legacy - by far of all the teams here has the highest talent pool, many of their non starters would be key players on other teams in this range. I don’t know them well enough to know if the problem is coaching or chemistry

Rebels - they added a few upgrades this year but they just don’t seem to have the top end players, and there is not much desire for top kids to go there except for free tuition

Rush - the least dynamic of all the rosters even though they lost 3 players to Legacy last year. They have a few big and skilled poles and a few good goal scorers. Their roster not changing much is a good and bad thing

S2s has some very good players. A shame if they split. But teams would definitely welcome them.

Legacy non starters are nothing special but teams would welcome them as well. Rush players that went to legacy did not pan out.

Rush similar to s2s. Will they stay another year or venture out.

Btb developed kids but will they look for greener pastures or do they stay

Rebels need to trim fat. That has been an issue for years from what I hear. And they need help just like the teams above.

Igloo just a couple of kids that would be a welcome addition.

Only movement to venom will probably be from express, maybe 1 player from legacy or s2s

How many kids can express have on a sideline?? We may be about to find out lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here’s my thoughts on the second tier teams.

First off where was igloo and the rebels, shocked that they wouldn’t sign up for the best tournament on Long Island (tristar, no close second).

So in alphabetical order we have BTB, Igloo, Legacy, Rebels, Rush and S2S

BTB - lost most of their core players and the replacements have been pretty good but they still need a. Inch of pieces

Igloo & S2S - I place them together, but S2S is definitely a stronger team, from almost every parent I talk to on these teams they are hoping their kids make Venom or Chucks next year. S2S has some talented players

Legacy - by far of all the teams here has the highest talent pool, many of their non starters would be key players on other teams in this range. I don’t know them well enough to know if the problem is coaching or chemistry

Rebels - they added a few upgrades this year but they just don’t seem to have the top end players, and there is not much desire for top kids to go there except for free tuition

Rush - the least dynamic of all the rosters even though they lost 3 players to Legacy last year. They have a few big and skilled poles and a few good goal scorers. Their roster not changing much is a good and bad thing

If all the decent kids from these teams move they risk not playing as much. Hope the parents keep that in mind. It is the most important thing!! Been there done that

BBL will win WS. You heard it here first.

All of these clubs are as good as the parents that fill the sideline. Remember they are usually the problem as equal as the coaches on these teams

Rumor is Surge going to cut their roster down from 33 kids and try to convince some venom players to move down and use that to entice new players to come over.

Express will cut their roster to 23 kids and bring in 3-5 new kids. They did this last year with their 2027 WS team.

You as a parent should have an idea where your kids stands in the pecking order/favoritism etc ..... It's more important your kid is playing and developing then it is to just rock a T-Shirt or share IG post of winning myloopipoptournaments.

I think the saying goes "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"

Stop falling for all the sales pitches and empty promises ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBL will win WS. You heard it here first.

Excellent team

As a Surge parent, I was told our roster will be 22-24 kids next year. I think all the teams that took 30 plus kids this year are feeling the effects with disgruntled parents and playing time. Not sure where all the boys are going to go who will not make their current team but hopefully it's somewhere where they're going to see the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor is Surge going to cut their roster down from 33 kids and try to convince some venom players to move down and use that to entice new players to come over.

Express will cut their roster to 23 kids and bring in 3-5 new kids. They did this last year with their 2027 WS team.

You as a parent should have an idea where your kids stands in the pecking order/favoritism etc ..... It's more important your kid is playing and developing then it is to just rock a T-Shirt or share IG post of winning myloopipoptournaments.

I think the saying goes "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"

Stop falling for all the sales pitches and empty promises ....

LOL ok. This guy is just looking out for all of us. We are so lucky.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBL will win WS. You heard it here first.

Excellent team

BBL is a very good team, keep that goalie healthy, he's filthy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here’s my thoughts on the second tier teams.

First off where was igloo and the rebels, shocked that they wouldn’t sign up for the best tournament on Long Island (tristar, no close second).

So in alphabetical order we have BTB, Igloo, Legacy, Rebels, Rush and S2S

BTB - lost most of their core players and the replacements have been pretty good but they still need a. Inch of pieces

Igloo & S2S - I place them together, but S2S is definitely a stronger team, from almost every parent I talk to on these teams they are hoping their kids make Venom or Chucks next year. S2S has some talented players

Legacy - by far of all the teams here has the highest talent pool, many of their non starters would be key players on other teams in this range. I don’t know them well enough to know if the problem is coaching or chemistry

Rebels - they added a few upgrades this year but they just don’t seem to have the top end players, and there is not much desire for top kids to go there except for free tuition

Rush - the least dynamic of all the rosters even though they lost 3 players to Legacy last year. They have a few big and skilled poles and a few good goal scorers. Their roster not changing much is a good and bad thing

Are you just talking just about the LI teams? Because there are many teams off the island and out of NY that are better than many of these teams. No offense, just facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBL will win WS. You heard it here first.

Excellent team

BBL is a very good team, keep that goalie healthy, he's filthy.

Are you bipolar your look fool talking to yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here’s my thoughts on the second tier teams.

First off where was igloo and the rebels, shocked that they wouldn’t sign up for the best tournament on Long Island (tristar, no close second).

So in alphabetical order we have BTB, Igloo, Legacy, Rebels, Rush and S2S

BTB - lost most of their core players and the replacements have been pretty good but they still need a. Inch of pieces

Igloo & S2S - I place them together, but S2S is definitely a stronger team, from almost every parent I talk to on these teams they are hoping their kids make Venom or Chucks next year. S2S has some talented players

Legacy - by far of all the teams here has the highest talent pool, many of their non starters would be key players on other teams in this range. I don’t know them well enough to know if the problem is coaching or chemistry

Rebels - they added a few upgrades this year but they just don’t seem to have the top end players, and there is not much desire for top kids to go there except for free tuition

Rush - the least dynamic of all the rosters even though they lost 3 players to Legacy last year. They have a few big and skilled poles and a few good goal scorers. Their roster not changing much is a good and bad thing

Are you just talking just about the LI teams? Because there are many teams off the island and out of NY that are better than many of these teams. No offense, just facts.

I think it’s pretty obvious that the person is talking about Long Island teams. So I’m sure they aren’t offended.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBL will win WS. You heard it here first.

Excellent team

BBL is a very good team, keep that goalie healthy, he's filthy.

Are you bipolar your look fool talking to yourself.

Awesome grammar.
You’re either a child or 5 Tito’s in when you wrote that.
BBL took all of the best kids associated with the BBL organization, and perhaps a few others, and formed this team. Pretty sure that is within the rules so all good if they win. They certainly were not a team last year. Same with the blue jays and Owens heroes, but whatever at this point. At least all the teams consist of legit 7th graders and not 8th graders who were reclassed or held back by their pathetic wealthy cheating parents.
The other teams that have the best chances besides BBL are 2W, chucks, freedom, blue jays, and venom

Excluding Eclipse form this list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excluding Eclipse form this list?

My bad. I forgot about them. Quality team for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

After this weekend I will revise my above statement. Express North was not the 8th best team in the tournament.

My revised rankings:
3D NE
2Way
Eclipse
Express North
BBL Black
Laxachusetts Black
LI Express
Venom

Express North earned (more of) my respect this weekend. They played hard and beat us in all the hustle plays.

Express North amd 2Way are at the top of this list. At least if Exrpress North’s regular team is the one they brought to NAL

3D New England isn’t in WS. Guess they are too old and that explains why they ripped through Tristar

I'm guessing the on-age 3D kids will be on the Blue Jays . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My predictions for tristar

Black
Tough draw for Legacy
1 Venom
2 Eclipse
3 Express
4 Legacy

Blue
1 2way
2 3D NE
BTB BBL Shore

Orange
1 3D GA
2 Sweetlax
S2S Cavalry

Red
1) BBL
2 Crabs
4Leaf Laxachussetts Black
Primetime
Predators

White
1) express North (should get #1 seed going into Sunday)
Rush Laxachussetts Yellow
BBL North

Top 8
Express North
Venom
2Way
BBL
3D GA
3D NE
Eclipse
Sweetlax

Others that might make it
Express
4Leaf
Crabs
Laxachussetts Black (schedule)

Express north probably is the #1 seed but only because of their bracket. I don’t think they are a top 7 team in this tournament.

My rankings:
2 way
BBL Black
Venom
3d NE
Eclipse
3d Georgia
LI express
Express north

After this weekend I will revise my above statement. Express North was not the 8th best team in the tournament.

My revised rankings:
3D NE
2Way
Eclipse
Express North
BBL Black
Laxachusetts Black
LI Express
Venom

Express North earned (more of) my respect this weekend. They played hard and beat us in all the hustle plays.

Express North amd 2Way are at the top of this list. At least if Exrpress North’s regular team is the one they brought to NAL

3D New England isn’t in WS. Guess they are too old and that explains why they ripped through Tristar

You “guess” they are too old?
Please tell me you’re being sarcastic and are well aware that only about 4 of the top 20 teams in the 2028 rankings are actually non holdback legitimate on age kids!

Truth!

Win or lose at LWSC next week our boys that are in it will remember this for a lifetime. Remember it will not define their Lax careers, but just another step in improving and growth. Good luck to all the teams and parents participating next week! Lets have a great tournament and let's have our sons have fun!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm guessing the on-age 3D kids will be on the Blue Jays . . .

Does anyone know what the BlueJays are? They aren't a real club with a website or anything. Is this just all of the Boston area U13 players making a new team?

Don't really care but I thought the WS was for actual club teams that play together, not the "All star" lets pull all the best kids from our area together.

OR if that's what this is, take the best kids and form Team Long Island (Express, venom, etc). Team CT (2way, Eclipse, North).

Making an all-star team from a bunch of clubs while no other team is doing that is weak.

100%

Of all these teams listed, who offers the best coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm guessing the on-age 3D kids will be on the Blue Jays . . .

Does anyone know what the BlueJays are? They aren't a real club with a website or anything. Is this just all of the Boston area U13 players making a new team?

Don't really care but I thought the WS was for actual club teams that play together, not the "All star" lets pull all the best kids from our area together.

OR if that's what this is, take the best kids and form Team Long Island (Express, venom, etc). Team CT (2way, Eclipse, North).

Making an all-star team from a bunch of clubs while no other team is doing that is weak.

Blue jays, Owens heroes, BBL, etc.

New USCL rankings are out. The two teams ranked #2 and #3, Nations Best and Team 18 both have only played 2 games this year. It’s almost July! Only thing this tells me is the algorithm favors hiding in your basement and not playing.these national teams should be removed from rankings or have their own rankings. Their rosters are so fluid they can’t be considered a “team”.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of all these teams listed, who offers the best coaching?

There is a few lists going on here, which are you referring to?

Does anyone know what the BlueJays are? They aren't a real club with a website or anything. Is this just all of the Boston area U13 players making a new team?

Don't really care but I thought the WS was for actual club teams that play together, not the "All star" lets pull all the best kids from our area together.

OR if that's what this is, take the best kids and form Team Long Island (Express, venom, etc). Team CT (2way, Eclipse, North).

Making an all-star team from a bunch of clubs while no other team is doing that is weak.[/quote]

Blue jays, Owens heroes, BBL, etc.[/quote]

Here we go with the "not a REAL team" excuse. If they created a Team Long Island they would be awesome . . . and your kid wouldn't make the team. Would that make you feel better?

Or maybe they should make a rule that all kids have to go to the same middle school and have to play together since 2nd grade to be considered a "REAL" team?

You finally get a tourney without the holdbacks and all you do is complain and make more excuses. Stop whining and enjoy the ride next week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New USCL rankings are out. The two teams ranked #2 and #3, Nations Best and Team 18 both have only played 2 games this year. It’s almost July! Only thing this tells me is the algorithm favors hiding in your basement and not playing.these national teams should be removed from rankings or have their own rankings. Their rosters are so fluid they can’t be considered a “team”.

Agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm guessing the on-age 3D kids will be on the Blue Jays . . .

Does anyone know what the BlueJays are? They aren't a real club with a website or anything. Is this just all of the Boston area U13 players making a new team?

Don't really care but I thought the WS was for actual club teams that play together, not the "All star" lets pull all the best kids from our area together.

OR if that's what this is, take the best kids and form Team Long Island (Express, venom, etc). Team CT (2way, Eclipse, North).

Making an all-star team from a bunch of clubs while no other team is doing that is weak.

Let’s be honest the only way a team Long Island would work is if an outside evaluator came in and picked the kids. That will never happen. Which would leave all the politics of putting kids on a team and while many would be good it would still be who you know and who they owe. Clubs/coaches are favorited by organizations. Just look at li lax journal team’s recently. Some clubs don’t even get looked at.
There would be no outside entity that didn’t have strings pulling so foggitaboutit

For now venom is as good as it gets for LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait to see the reaction when WS instagram posts venom as #1 rank

I don't expect a big response. LI wins it every year. Venom is the best team in LI this year. They deserve to be #1 until a non-LI team wins this thing. Based on recent results this could be the year . . . but I wouldn't bet against 91 putting it all together.

Defense wins championships

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New USCL rankings are out. The two teams ranked #2 and #3, Nations Best and Team 18 both have only played 2 games this year. It’s almost July! Only thing this tells me is the algorithm favors hiding in your basement and not playing.these national teams should be removed from rankings or have their own rankings. Their rosters are so fluid they can’t be considered a “team”.

Worked for Joe Biden, why wouldn’t it work for Team Eighteen??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait to see the reaction when WS instagram posts venom as #1 rank

I don't expect a big response. LI wins it every year. Venom is the best team in LI this year. They deserve to be #1 until a non-LI team wins this thing. Based on recent results this could be the year . . . but I wouldn't bet against 91 putting it all together.

Defense wins championships

Venom is the best team in the tourney as shown at qualifier but 6-7 other teams can beat them including Express. They are gonna need their D, goalies, fogo to step up

Express got no chance vs 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait to see the reaction when WS instagram posts venom as #1 rank

I don't expect a big response. LI wins it every year. Venom is the best team in LI this year. They deserve to be #1 until a non-LI team wins this thing. Based on recent results this could be the year . . . but I wouldn't bet against 91 putting it all together.

Defense wins championships

Venom is the best team in the tourney as shown at qualifier but 6-7 other teams can beat them including Express. They are gonna need their D, goalies, fogo to step up

So venom loses for the first time to Express in years - and now there are 6-7 teams including Express who can beat them. Ok, go to sleep thinking that. Cannot wait until Venom embarrasses all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got no chance vs 91.

Troll

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got no chance vs 91.

Troll

CMON - According to inside information (my 7th grader who has friends on the team) Venom was missing a bunch of key players at Tri Star.
Let's be real - Most of the Express Chucks will get replaced in 9th grade once you got the kids from Chaminade being recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got no chance vs 91.

Troll

CMON - According to inside information (my 7th grader who has friends on the team) Venom was missing a bunch of key players at Tri Star.
Let's be real - Most of the Express Chucks will get replaced in 9th grade once you got the kids from Chaminade being recruited.

1 kid is not a bunch DA

Two great teams.
Let it go.

Venom is a sinking ship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got no chance vs 91.

Troll

CMON - According to inside information (my 7th grader who has friends on the team) Venom was missing a bunch of key players at Tri Star.
Let's be real - Most of the Express Chucks will get replaced in 9th grade once you got the kids from Chaminade being recruited.

Pretty sure express was down several key players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom is a sinking ship.

We will find out this week won’t we. You can stream it from your house

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom is a sinking ship.

We will find out this week won’t we. You can stream it from your house

Booooooom Roasted!!

All questions will be answered this week. Play hard boys and parents shut your mouths and enjoy this great experience.

I am sure this comment will bother many and the responses will be interesting. The level of Lacrosse played this weekend in Farmingdale was impressive. All 4 teams in the higher of the 2 brackets should walk away with their heads held high. Championship game was a great game and we were tested until the end. Calvary, Rebels, Surge and Rush all have some very good lacrosse players. Depth is not at the level of the AA teams but we proved we can play with anyone when we are firing on all cylinders. It is clear that Express and Venom are the top 2 teams on LI. It is also clear that 4 or 5 others can hang and are not that far off. No need for angry responses . The 2028 age group is very deep and impressive. As far as movement and players leaving and going to new teams is concerned.... be mindful and do what is best for your kid and family. At these ages playing time is more important than anything. That along with has your son developed with this team. Our success stems from great coaching and consistency. If your kid is not on man up or man down then you may look to explore other options. That is usually a good barometer at this age to gauge if the team is a good fit for your kid. Like someone once said "the grass is not greener on the other side, it is greener where you water it". Best of luck to the World Series teams going down to NC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure this comment will bother many and the responses will be interesting. The level of Lacrosse played this weekend in Farmingdale was impressive. All 4 teams in the higher of the 2 brackets should walk away with their heads held high. Championship game was a great game and we were tested until the end. Calvary, Rebels, Surge and Rush all have some very good lacrosse players. Depth is not at the level of the AA teams but we proved we can play with anyone when we are firing on all cylinders. It is clear that Express and Venom are the top 2 teams on LI. It is also clear that 4 or 5 others can hang and are not that far off. No need for angry responses . The 2028 age group is very deep and impressive. As far as movement and players leaving and going to new teams is concerned.... be mindful and do what is best for your kid and family. At these ages playing time is more important than anything. That along with has your son developed with this team. Our success stems from great coaching and consistency. If your kid is not on man up or man down then you may look to explore other options. That is usually a good barometer at this age to gauge if the team is a good fit for your kid. Like someone once said "the grass is not greener on the other side, it is greener where you water it". Best of luck to the World Series teams going down to NC.

These are 7th grade lacrosse players - this age group is not deeper or more impressive than last year’s or next year’s 7th graders. There will be tremendous physical changes in the next 2 years, then this will level off. At that point, it becomes all about the player, not the team. Colleges are taking way more transfers that compete and add value immediately, unlike freshman out of HS. You say there’s not much drop off betw LI teams then you say if your kid isn’t one of 6 or 5 on special teams, be concerned. The only thing to be concerned with is if they are developing as team players (do they make the extra pass, or just try to barrel through defenders?) and not overreacting to your ridiculous expectations.

Find the club that your kid enjoys the culture. That includes players and coaches. Has your son improved and been on the field ? Every club is a business and there is no perfect club team. Do what is best for your family. Some clubs are too expensive, some have 30 man rosters, some play too much or not often enough. Find a coach and a group that fits your needs and stay with it. Playing time is important and your kid just needs to be in the mix and getting a decent amount of run. Club hopping does not work out for most. Some may have to leave to find a better fit but more often than not there are issues again and again. Relationships matter more than anything bc at the end of the day its just a game and the kids should be playing with and for people they enjoy being around. Not a wrinkled T Shirt or an Instagram post will mean more than quality time spent and relationships built. Utilize club lacrosse as a toll to help your son grow on and off the field. At this age the teams that have been consistent and stuck together are the ones who are better off. Certain clubs stick together and get better together (Rush). They may not win every time but the core stays together and they compete grow and seem to enjoy eachother along the way.

Wish it was that simple....

Sunday? Are they driving home together?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure this comment will bother many and the responses will be interesting. The level of Lacrosse played this weekend in Farmingdale was impressive. All 4 teams in the higher of the 2 brackets should walk away with their heads held high. Championship game was a great game and we were tested until the end. Calvary, Rebels, Surge and Rush all have some very good lacrosse players. Depth is not at the level of the AA teams but we proved we can play with anyone when we are firing on all cylinders. It is clear that Express and Venom are the top 2 teams on LI. It is also clear that 4 or 5 others can hang and are not that far off. No need for angry responses . The 2028 age group is very deep and impressive. As far as movement and players leaving and going to new teams is concerned.... be mindful and do what is best for your kid and family. At these ages playing time is more important than anything. That along with has your son developed with this team. Our success stems from great coaching and consistency. If your kid is not on man up or man down then you may look to explore other options. That is usually a good barometer at this age to gauge if the team is a good fit for your kid. Like someone once said "the grass is not greener on the other side, it is greener where you water it". Best of luck to the World Series teams going down to NC.

Playing time is everything!! What is good about being on a team and wearing logos if you don’t contribute? I know at least 4-5 kids on the 3 LI teams going to NC for WS games that either won’t touch the field or if so only for a few mins total all weekend.
What benefit is that? Terrible decision to stay on team if you don’t play!!! It will catch up at the end of the day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure this comment will bother many and the responses will be interesting. The level of Lacrosse played this weekend in Farmingdale was impressive. All 4 teams in the higher of the 2 brackets should walk away with their heads held high. Championship game was a great game and we were tested until the end. Calvary, Rebels, Surge and Rush all have some very good lacrosse players. Depth is not at the level of the AA teams but we proved we can play with anyone when we are firing on all cylinders. It is clear that Express and Venom are the top 2 teams on LI. It is also clear that 4 or 5 others can hang and are not that far off. No need for angry responses . The 2028 age group is very deep and impressive. As far as movement and players leaving and going to new teams is concerned.... be mindful and do what is best for your kid and family. At these ages playing time is more important than anything. That along with has your son developed with this team. Our success stems from great coaching and consistency. If your kid is not on man up or man down then you may look to explore other options. That is usually a good barometer at this age to gauge if the team is a good fit for your kid. Like someone once said "the grass is not greener on the other side, it is greener where you water it". Best of luck to the World Series teams going down to NC.

These are 7th grade lacrosse players - this age group is not deeper or more impressive than last year’s or next year’s 7th graders. There will be tremendous physical changes in the next 2 years, then this will level off. At that point, it becomes all about the player, not the team. Colleges are taking way more transfers that compete and add value immediately, unlike freshman out of HS. You say there’s not much drop off betw LI teams then you say if your kid isn’t one of 6 or 5 on special teams, be concerned. The only thing to be concerned with is if they are developing as team players (do they make the extra pass, or just try to barrel through defenders?) and not overreacting to your ridiculous expectations.

Disagree 28’s are stronger than 27’s & 29’s by far.
At least on the Island anyway.

Disagree 28’s are stronger than 27’s & 29’s by far.
At least on the Island anyway.[/quote]

I’m sure you have the stats to prove it. Do you have their Middle School W/L records too?

Playing time is everything!! What is good about being on a team and wearing logos if you don’t contribute? I know at least 4-5 kids on the 3 LI teams going to NC for WS games that either won’t touch the field or if so only for a few mins total all weekend.
What benefit is that? Terrible decision to stay on team if you don’t play!!! It will catch up at the end of the day.[/quote]

100% Spot on. These “memories for a lifetime” folks need to see the big picture. Watching the Coach’s kids and friends of theirs, from the sideline, will not benefit your WS participant at all when it matters in HS. Enjoy watching these games while you wonder if your 3rd line middy will get in for mop up time.

Someone who hates you normally hates you for one of three reasons.
They either see you as a threat.
They detest themselves.
Or they want to be you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone who hates you normally hates you for one of three reasons.
They either see you as a threat.
They detest themselves.
Or they want to be you.

Let’s go venom!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing time is everything!! What is good about being on a team and wearing logos if you don’t contribute? I know at least 4-5 kids on the 3 LI teams going to NC for WS games that either won’t touch the field or if so only for a few mins total all weekend.
What benefit is that? Terrible decision to stay on team if you don’t play!!! It will catch up at the end of the day.

100% Spot on. These “memories for a lifetime” folks need to see the big picture. Watching the Coach’s kids and friends of theirs, from the sideline, will not benefit your WS participant at all when it matters in HS. Enjoy watching these games while you wonder if your 3rd line middy will get in for mop up time.[/quote]

Yup, or the kid who only plays wing on F/O or the FOGO at this age. Hence why you see teams like true blue get stronger as teams get older bc parents eventually wake up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing time is everything!! What is good about being on a team and wearing logos if you don’t contribute? I know at least 4-5 kids on the 3 LI teams going to NC for WS games that either won’t touch the field or if so only for a few mins total all weekend.
What benefit is that? Terrible decision to stay on team if you don’t play!!! It will catch up at the end of the day.

100% Spot on. These “memories for a lifetime” folks need to see the big picture. Watching the Coach’s kids and friends of theirs, from the sideline, will not benefit your WS participant at all when it matters in HS. Enjoy watching these games while you wonder if your 3rd line middy will get in for mop up time.

Yup, or the kid who only plays wing on F/O or the FOGO at this age. Hence why you see teams like true blue get stronger as teams get older bc parents eventually wake up.[/quote]

You had me until “true blue”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone who hates you normally hates you for one of three reasons.
They either see you as a threat.
They detest themselves.
Or they want to be you.

Or you are a big hammerhead

World Series start today or tomorrow?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone who hates you normally hates you for one of three reasons.
They either see you as a threat.
They detest themselves.
Or they want to be you.

Or you are a big hammerhead

I agree….he could not possibly be the issue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series start today or tomorrow?

For some it ended today

Nope

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series start today or tomorrow?

For some it ended today

Teams eliminated already? Is it double elimination or pool play?

Hear it here first. An on-age tournament on LI like TriStar would blow this WSL [Censored] out of the water. The number of winless teams (including Legacy) is a comedy. Just stack a Northeast tournament with on-age kids and save me that once in a lifetime nonsense. This was a royal pain in the keester. Delaware in March, NC in July. Save us the money and make it at one of the 25 colleges on LI or CT. PFSNkV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hear it here first. An on-age tournament on LI like TriStar would blow this WSL [Censored] out of the water. The number of winless teams (including Legacy) is a comedy. Just stack a Northeast tournament with on-age kids and save me that once in a lifetime nonsense. This was a royal pain in the keester. Delaware in March, NC in July. Save us the money and make it at one of the 25 colleges on LI or CT. PFSNkV

Found the 0-3 team parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hear it here first. An on-age tournament on LI like TriStar would blow this WSL [Censored] out of the water. The number of winless teams (including Legacy) is a comedy. Just stack a Northeast tournament with on-age kids and save me that once in a lifetime nonsense. This was a royal pain in the keester. Delaware in March, NC in July. Save us the money and make it at one of the 25 colleges on LI or CT. PFSNkV

Words of wisdom

Travel all the way to NC for Venom and Chucks to play, comical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel all the way to NC for Venom and Chucks to play, comical.

More likely Venom v 2W or venom v north … but yeah, that’s the point

Chucks v venom to move on ohhhhh yeah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel all the way to NC for Venom and Chucks to play, comical.

Why does WS have to be held in the south. Move it up to NY next year

Lumberjax have left their legacy

How are the Rebels doing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are the Rebels doing?

As well as Igloo, shore, rush, btb and turtles

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone who hates you normally hates you for one of three reasons.
They either see you as a threat.
They detest themselves.
Or they want to be you.

Or you are a big hammerhead

I agree….he could not possibly be the issue

How’s the weather in NY today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel all the way to NC for Venom and Chucks to play, comical.

It’s based on seedings…why is that comical? Not following your point, it’s not like the organizers scheduled that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are the Rebels doing?

As well as Igloo, shore, rush, btb and turtles

Maybe for 2029, those teams put together a U13 team next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure this comment will bother many and the responses will be interesting. The level of Lacrosse played this weekend in Farmingdale was impressive. All 4 teams in the higher of the 2 brackets should walk away with their heads held high. Championship game was a great game and we were tested until the end. Calvary, Rebels, Surge and Rush all have some very good lacrosse players. Depth is not at the level of the AA teams but we proved we can play with anyone when we are firing on all cylinders. It is clear that Express and Venom are the top 2 teams on LI. It is also clear that 4 or 5 others can hang and are not that far off. No need for angry responses . The 2028 age group is very deep and impressive. As far as movement and players leaving and going to new teams is concerned.... be mindful and do what is best for your kid and family. At these ages playing time is more important than anything. That along with has your son developed with this team. Our success stems from great coaching and consistency. If your kid is not on man up or man down then you may look to explore other options. That is usually a good barometer at this age to gauge if the team is a good fit for your kid. Like someone once said "the grass is not greener on the other side, it is greener where you water it". Best of luck to the World Series teams going down to NC.

Playing time is everything!! What is good about being on a team and wearing logos if you don’t contribute? I know at least 4-5 kids on the 3 LI teams going to NC for WS games that either won’t touch the field or if so only for a few mins total all weekend.
What benefit is that? Terrible decision to stay on team if you don’t play!!! It will catch up at the end of the day.

Those kids hardly touched the field this weekend. It’s a shame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

What is their deal? Why aren’t they better?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

This coming from a team that went to the qualifier, would have done anything to go to the WS, but didn’t qualify.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is their deal? Why aren’t they better?

Dirty deeds behind the scenes didn’t work out well for them

Can you elaborate? My friends son is in the team. I know they have good players. Is it coaching? Ownership?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

This coming from a team that went to the qualifier, would have done anything to go to the WS, but didn’t qualify.

Which team is that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

This coming from a team that went to the qualifier, would have done anything to go to the WS, but didn’t qualify.

“Would have done anything” What would they do to get there? Do tell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you elaborate? My friends son is in the team. I know they have good players. Is it coaching? Ownership?

If they are on the team they know, ask your friend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel all the way to NC for Venom and Chucks to play, comical.

It’s based on seedings…why is that comical? Not following your point, it’s not like the organizers scheduled that.

Maybe replace Chuck’s w North or 2Way. This got old quick.

WOW....got really quiet in here! 2 Westchester teams make the finals, I guess the fellas up north are starting to catch up to LI.
Good Luck in the finals, North vs. 2Way

Most people on here knew what the outcome would be. Venom is the top LI team. Express is next. They are by far the deepest teams and most talented. Legacy should be proud for getting there. Legacy is right in mix w Rush, Rebels, Igloo and S2S. Time to evaluate your sons rile on the team. If he is playing consistently and having fun than u are on the right roster. If he has the jersey on and plays minimally then think about moving on. Congrats to all the boys who played!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW....got really quiet in here! 2 Westchester teams make the finals, I guess the fellas up north are starting to catch up to LI.
Good Luck in the finals, North vs. 2Way

Down goes venom, down goes venom!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW....got really quiet in here! 2 Westchester teams make the finals, I guess the fellas up north are starting to catch up to LI.
Good Luck in the finals, North vs. 2Way

2 way cheated. Face off kid from PA. They were chanting cheaters after the freedom game.

2way had kids from Connecticut, Long Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania…. And for all I know even more states, calling them a westchester team is a joke, maybe a team that uses westchest as the center of their 100 mile radius.

We all know they have to fill many spots due to holdbacks but I don’t know how this is legal

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW....got really quiet in here! 2 Westchester teams make the finals, I guess the fellas up north are starting to catch up to LI.
Good Luck in the finals, North vs. 2Way

2 way cheated. Face off kid from PA. They were chanting cheaters after the freedom game.

Can’t believe it took this long for the news to break.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2way had kids from Connecticut, Long Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania…. And for all I know even more states, calling them a westchester team is a joke, maybe a team that uses westchest as the center of their 100 mile radius.

We all know they have to fill many spots due to holdbacks but I don’t know how this is legal

And Express brings in kids from TX in prior years

2 way kept switching jerseys numbers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2way had kids from Connecticut, Long Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania…. And for all I know even more states, calling them a westchester team is a joke, maybe a team that uses westchest as the center of their 100 mile radius.

We all know they have to fill many spots due to holdbacks but I don’t know how this is legal

Just stop with excuses. A long island team got beat. They’ve won it every year so this is a first. Stop crying about holdbacks and out of towners. 91 brings in players from Florida. Express WS 26 team had kids from Connecticut. Some times Long Island teams get beat. Take it like a man and move on.

Big difference between brining in 1 kid and bringing half the team in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big difference between brining in 1 kid and bringing half the team in

And LIE and Venom recruit, give free tuition, bla bla. This tournament would be better off played at a CT stadium.

It’s over the only thing that happened it will be a bigger problem next year everyone will cheat. The tournament now lost its luster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW....got really quiet in here! 2 Westchester teams make the finals, I guess the fellas up north are starting to catch up to LI.
Good Luck in the finals, North vs. 2Way

2 way cheated. Face off kid from PA. They were chanting cheaters after the freedom game.

I heard they cheated yesterday

Figured you knew something worthwhile…guess not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2way had kids from Connecticut, Long Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania…. And for all I know even more states, calling them a westchester team is a joke, maybe a team that uses westchest as the center of their 100 mile radius.

We all know they have to fill many spots due to holdbacks but I don’t know how this is legal

Just stop with excuses. A long island team got beat. They’ve won it every year so this is a first. Stop crying about holdbacks and out of towners. 91 brings in players from Florida. Express WS 26 team had kids from Connecticut. Some times Long Island teams get beat. Take it like a man and move on.

LI teams didn’t play 2Way. The complaints were about 2Way. Reading comprehension.

North is a CT team.

Stop all the nonsense. It’s a verified 13U tourney. So much then club, hopefully that’s changing. Congrats to finally a non LI team winning this.

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

That didn’t take long. What are the chances some of their kids were the ones who never stepped on the field? Doesn’t say much for their Coaching ability if they only run the studs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop all the nonsense. It’s a verified 13U tourney. So much then club, hopefully that’s changing. Congrats to finally a non LI team winning this.

Verified when the club submits the roster. We were there. No one EVER checked that my kid was the kid listed on the roster. We could have fielded my rising junior.

2Way may have cheated (don’t know how it’s possible to cheat with age verification and Public rosters) but North absolutely blasted them in the Championship. Not sure anyone saw that coming but that was probably the story of the tournament for north. Beat FCA, BBL, Bluejays, Venom and 2Way??? That’s a heck of a rub. Congrats to them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Venom lost in the semifinals to North in a great game. They are one of the best coaches teams out there year after year. Not sure what’s “not working”.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Venom lost in the semifinals to North in a great game. They are one of the best coaches teams out there year after year. Not sure what’s “not working”.

I thought that comment was directed at the LumberingJacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Venom lost in the semifinals to North in a great game. They are one of the best coaches teams out there year after year. Not sure what’s “not working”.

It doesn’t say mush about their lacrosse knowledge and coaching ability if they run their studs and still lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Venom lost in the semifinals to North in a great game. They are one of the best coaches teams out there year after year. Not sure what’s “not working”.

I thought that comment was directed at the LumberingJacks

Lumberjacks cut a goalie that went and played for Express. I question the people making decisions. They have some talent but not enough to hang w top 2. Would love to see them play Rush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Venom lost in the semifinals to North in a great game. They are one of the best coaches teams out there year after year. Not sure what’s “not working”.

It doesn’t say mush about their lacrosse knowledge and coaching ability if they run their studs and still lost.

Maybe North is better at this moment in time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Venom lost in the semifinals to North in a great game. They are one of the best coaches teams out there year after year. Not sure what’s “not working”.

I thought that comment was directed at the LumberingJacks

Lumberjacks cut a goalie that went and played for Express. I question the people making decisions. They have some talent but not enough to hang w top 2. Would love to see them play Rush.

They cut a kid that then started for a much better team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

That's whatis laughable. College lax scholarships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW....got really quiet in here! 2 Westchester teams make the finals, I guess the fellas up north are starting to catch up to LI.
Good Luck in the finals, North vs. 2Way

2 way cheated. Face off kid from PA. They were chanting cheaters after the freedom game.

The fogo from PA didn’t even play for 2way at World Series. He was on freedom because he was too far from 2way

What happened to Igloo Northmen, got crushed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess all those daddy coaches over there aren’t working out

Venom lost in the semifinals to North in a great game. They are one of the best coaches teams out there year after year. Not sure what’s “not working”.

I thought that comment was directed at the LumberingJacks

Lumberjacks cut a goalie that went and played for Express. I question the people making decisions. They have some talent but not enough to hang w top 2. Would love to see them play Rush.

They cut a kid that then started for a much better team?

Yup. Kid was at Legacy for years too. Obviously, it wasn't the kid that was the problem.

Looking into tryouts for my son and I’ve noticed that the rebels are holding tryouts a week before everyone else. My son is a AA player but there is no way I’d commit to them before hearing results from 91, Express, Legacy, Rush or S2S. We’re still not 100% sure on who else he’s going to try out for due to try out conflict times, this is my wife and mines opinions, any insight would be appreciated

91/express - we feel our boy can contribute on these teams but probably won’t make them
Surge - good core, a possibility

Rebels - I’ve heard many disgruntled parents with them this year, I saw at the beginning of this year they claimed new additions would put them back at the top, but that has not happened at all

Legacy - I heard all the kids that went to them this year and was upset we didn’t try out there last year, but surprising to me they didn’t perform well at all. I honestly thought they were going to be better than Venom and Express this year, if not…. Real close to them. Is coaching the problem?

Rush - it looks like they are starting a second team, I wonder if that will open up some spots on a team whose roster has been the same for the most part for the past few years. They seemed to have some good results lately but has some rough results earlier

S2S - strong core of kids, I’ve heard some of the top kids want to move to 91 or express, will they make it, will they bring in new talent, and it seems there has been coaching issues there

My advice would be to play for a team which your son will see significant minutes on the field and get coached by varsity coaches. Stay away from daddy ball and 35 kids on express’ sideline. Depending on where you live, I recommend Rush or Surge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking into tryouts for my son and I’ve noticed that the rebels are holding tryouts a week before everyone else. My son is a AA player but there is no way I’d commit to them before hearing results from 91, Express, Legacy, Rush or S2S. We’re still not 100% sure on who else he’s going to try out for due to try out conflict times, this is my wife and mines opinions, any insight would be appreciated

91/express - we feel our boy can contribute on these teams but probably won’t make them
Surge - good core, a possibility

Rebels - I’ve heard many disgruntled parents with them this year, I saw at the beginning of this year they claimed new additions would put them back at the top, but that has not happened at all

Legacy - I heard all the kids that went to them this year and was upset we didn’t try out there last year, but surprising to me they didn’t perform well at all. I honestly thought they were going to be better than Venom and Express this year, if not…. Real close to them. Is coaching the problem?

Rush - it looks like they are starting a second team, I wonder if that will open up some spots on a team whose roster has been the same for the most part for the past few years. They seemed to have some good results lately but has some rough results earlier

S2S - strong core of kids, I’ve heard some of the top kids want to move to 91 or express, will they make it, will they bring in new talent, and it seems there has been coaching issues there

First if you thought Legacy was going to be #1 you don’t know the teams. And that’s no knock on legacy- great kids there but they are a notch below and on top of that have underperformed. Kids will prob move away from this team
Second if your kid is good enough to contribute at Venom or Chucks then he will make the team- go to tryouts.

After that surge, Rush and S2S all good options. Good coaching and solid players.

I don’t know about rush or rebels. Each of those teams have a couple of parents that you don’t want to be around. It got ugly between those 2 last weekend. Don’t say you weren’t warned

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking into tryouts for my son and I’ve noticed that the rebels are holding tryouts a week before everyone else. My son is a AA player but there is no way I’d commit to them before hearing results from 91, Express, Legacy, Rush or S2S. We’re still not 100% sure on who else he’s going to try out for due to try out conflict times, this is my wife and mines opinions, any insight would be appreciated

91/express - we feel our boy can contribute on these teams but probably won’t make them
Surge - good core, a possibility

Rebels - I’ve heard many disgruntled parents with them this year, I saw at the beginning of this year they claimed new additions would put them back at the top, but that has not happened at all

Legacy - I heard all the kids that went to them this year and was upset we didn’t try out there last year, but surprising to me they didn’t perform well at all. I honestly thought they were going to be better than Venom and Express this year, if not…. Real close to them. Is coaching the problem?

Rush - it looks like they are starting a second team, I wonder if that will open up some spots on a team whose roster has been the same for the most part for the past few years. They seemed to have some good results lately but has some rough results earlier

S2S - strong core of kids, I’ve heard some of the top kids want to move to 91 or express, will they make it, will they bring in new talent, and it seems there has been coaching issues there

0savior instead of spending time coaching their players and team....they think the new golden child is the bomb then alienate their core talentedplauwrs, bad businessmodel because players scatter, hence posts like this. That is why many programs flounder like legacy and rebels. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know about rush or rebels. Each of those teams have a couple of parents that you don’t want to be around. It got ugly between those 2 last weekend. Don’t say you weren’t warned

Parents were screaming at each other at the Venom Chucks game too @tristar. I’m sure that every team has “that parent”. We all know years ago the rebels parents were by far the worst, but for the most part they seemed to have calmed down lately.

Golden rule for me of being in the sideline, don’t negatively interact with the other teams kids or parents and everything goes smooth, once someone crosses that line it can get ugly. There is always going to be parents, kids and coaches that will question refs, but that’s up to the refs to handle. If you don’t have anything nice to say to people you don’t know don’t say anything at all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

These are off the cuff numbers for 2028, so forgive me if I’m wrong.

Rebels has 3 teams
Express has 3 teams (I think)
Rush has 1 team
Igloo has 2 teams
Recon has 1 team
True blue has 1 team
91 has 2 teams
S2S had 1 team
Legacy has 3 teams.

Maybe I missed one or two, but let’s all agree on 17 teams for the 2028 graduation year on Long Island. The lumberjax are pretty much the 3rd best team out of 17 on Long Island. Maybe one or two teams below them could beat them on a given day. With that said, they could beat the two teams above them if all cylinders fire and the ball goes their way.

But anyway, on to my point and hopefully a moment of clarity. Can one of the two people I quoted please come back and answer this question?
What’s with the obsession with the lumberjax? In all seriousness, it’s perplexing. I’m going to make an assumption that you’re not venom or chuck parents. That wouldn’t make sense because you have beaten the lumberjax and truth be told have a roster that runs a bit deeper. Thus, any parent from the aforementioned teams wouldn’t waste their time on here bashing a team that is no threat to them. Which leads me to the motivation behind the obsession. Is it because your son tried out and didn’t make the team? A little bit of training can help that and I can recommend some facilities with quality training. I can see some bitterness arising from that but there is hope for your child. Or maybe your child was on the team and rode the bench, so you chose to leave? If that’s the case, I give the same advice. Train hard!
It’s a bit of a mystery to me so I would appreciate some insight. I’ll be waiting.

I have definitely seen every team have parents lose their cool, some kids have lost their spots on teams due to how toxic they are

At the National Showdown (run by the rebels parent company) the 3 rebels teams won a combined 3 games out of 15 games and 2 of those wins were vs other rebels teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My advice would be to play for a team which your son will see significant minutes on the field and get coached by varsity coaches. Stay away from daddy ball and 35 kids on express’ sideline. Depending on where you live, I recommend Rush or Surge

Nice job Surge coach.

Tryouts question, looking for suggestions. Is playing time on an average team better than less playing time but MUCH better coaching somewhere else?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At the National Showdown (run by the rebels parent company) the 3 rebels teams won a combined 3 games out of 15 games and 2 of those wins were vs other rebels teams.

It appears someone not only has a legacy obsession but a rebels obsession too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking into tryouts for my son and I’ve noticed that the rebels are holding tryouts a week before everyone else. My son is a AA player but there is no way I’d commit to them before hearing results from 91, Express, Legacy, Rush or S2S. We’re still not 100% sure on who else he’s going to try out for due to try out conflict times, this is my wife and mines opinions, any insight would be appreciated

91/express - we feel our boy can contribute on these teams but probably won’t make them
Surge - good core, a possibility

Rebels - I’ve heard many disgruntled parents with them this year, I saw at the beginning of this year they claimed new additions would put them back at the top, but that has not happened at all

Legacy - I heard all the kids that went to them this year and was upset we didn’t try out there last year, but surprising to me they didn’t perform well at all. I honestly thought they were going to be better than Venom and Express this year, if not…. Real close to them. Is coaching the problem?

Rush - it looks like they are starting a second team, I wonder if that will open up some spots on a team whose roster has been the same for the most part for the past few years. They seemed to have some good results lately but has some rough results earlier

S2S - strong core of kids, I’ve heard some of the top kids want to move to 91 or express, will they make it, will they bring in new talent, and it seems there has been coaching issues there

Your son is a AA player and isn’t on any of those teams? Where has he been hiding all these years?

Do you want daddy ball? Go to Legacy, both 91 teams
Do you want to be screamed at by a lunatic coach? Go to Rush or igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts question, looking for suggestions. Is playing time on an average team better than less playing time but MUCH better coaching somewhere else?

Yes, 1000%. But the coach has to committed as well. But there is so much A team envy out there, however, eventually in 3 years this group will learn you can’t get committed from the sidelines. Confidence starts with success on the field and that can’t be matched in practice. Getting one shift or [Censored] time minutes is an absolute waste. IMHO you should be contacting coaches now and asking to come to practice and get a look (for you and by the coach) before tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts question, looking for suggestions. Is playing time on an average team better than less playing time but MUCH better coaching somewhere else?

Yes, 1000%. But the coach has to committed as well. But there is so much A team envy out there, however, eventually in 3 years this group will learn you can’t get committed from the sidelines. Confidence starts with success on the field and that can’t be matched in practice. Getting one shift or [Censored] time minutes is an absolute waste. IMHO you should be contacting coaches now and asking to come to practice and get a look (for you and by the coach) before tryouts.

Well said. Nothing matters more than playing time and your kid contributing to the outcome of the game. Every team (all- not one team excluded) has a parent or 2 who is a little much. Find the right mix of playing time and level of competition. Some people complain of Daddy Ball coaches however, they tend to be the most invested and reliable. if you are a backup on a top team like Express or 91 and are happy with not playing much then maybe it is the right fit. Look at your sons emotions prior to and after a game. Does he enjoy the time between games or at the hotel? Those moments are as important as the tournaments themselves. All things being equal find a place where your son can play a significant amount of time and has a top notch coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

These are off the cuff numbers for 2028, so forgive me if I’m wrong.

Rebels has 3 teams
Express has 3 teams (I think)
Rush has 1 team
Igloo has 2 teams
Recon has 1 team
True blue has 1 team
91 has 2 teams
S2S had 1 team
Legacy has 3 teams.

Maybe I missed one or two, but let’s all agree on 17 teams for the 2028 graduation year on Long Island. The lumberjax are pretty much the 3rd best team out of 17 on Long Island. Maybe one or two teams below them could beat them on a given day. With that said, they could beat the two teams above them if all cylinders fire and the ball goes their way.

But anyway, on to my point and hopefully a moment of clarity. Can one of the two people I quoted please come back and answer this question?
What’s with the obsession with the lumberjax? In all seriousness, it’s perplexing. I’m going to make an assumption that you’re not venom or chuck parents. That wouldn’t make sense because you have beaten the lumberjax and truth be told have a roster that runs a bit deeper. Thus, any parent from the aforementioned teams wouldn’t waste their time on here bashing a team that is no threat to them. Which leads me to the motivation behind the obsession. Is it because your son tried out and didn’t make the team? A little bit of training can help that and I can recommend some facilities with quality training. I can see some bitterness arising from that but there is hope for your child. Or maybe your child was on the team and rode the bench, so you chose to leave? If that’s the case, I give the same advice. Train hard!
It’s a bit of a mystery to me so I would appreciate some insight. I’ll be waiting.

Coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

These are off the cuff numbers for 2028, so forgive me if I’m wrong.

Rebels has 3 teams
Express has 3 teams (I think)
Rush has 1 team
Igloo has 2 teams
Recon has 1 team
True blue has 1 team
91 has 2 teams
S2S had 1 team
Legacy has 3 teams.

Maybe I missed one or two, but let’s all agree on 17 teams for the 2028 graduation year on Long Island. The lumberjax are pretty much the 3rd best team out of 17 on Long Island. Maybe one or two teams below them could beat them on a given day. With that said, they could beat the two teams above them if all cylinders fire and the ball goes their way.

But anyway, on to my point and hopefully a moment of clarity. Can one of the two people I quoted please come back and answer this question?
What’s with the obsession with the lumberjax? In all seriousness, it’s perplexing. I’m going to make an assumption that you’re not venom or chuck parents. That wouldn’t make sense because you have beaten the lumberjax and truth be told have a roster that runs a bit deeper. Thus, any parent from the aforementioned teams wouldn’t waste their time on here bashing a team that is no threat to them. Which leads me to the motivation behind the obsession. Is it because your son tried out and didn’t make the team? A little bit of training can help that and I can recommend some facilities with quality training. I can see some bitterness arising from that but there is hope for your child. Or maybe your child was on the team and rode the bench, so you chose to leave? If that’s the case, I give the same advice. Train hard!
It’s a bit of a mystery to me so I would appreciate some insight. I’ll be waiting.

Coaching

If your looking for Coaching/low roster size tons of practices and Middle of the island - Try out at BTB - 18 field players and 2 goalies - Looking to add the correct depth and the coach won't just take anyone to fill roster spots.

Someone tell me what they know about 2way!!! Did they really cheat?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My advice would be to play for a team which your son will see significant minutes on the field and get coached by varsity coaches. Stay away from daddy ball and 35 kids on express’ sideline. Depending on where you live, I recommend Rush or Surge

Nice job Surge coach.

Surge is the last place to go …..kids left during tournamen bc of fool coach not a good look

Out of control

Surge is a good team. The reason why a kid left a tournament was because of playing time. It's a competitive team with too many kids on it, which is being addressed. The disgruntled ones are leaving as they should. Their kids needs to be playing. I wish them luck.

The rumor flying around NC was that 2Way had 2 illegal kids. The tourney was made aware after the kids had played all day 1.. The only punishment . . . those 2 kids were no longer allowed to play.

I hope that's not the case. Obviously it would be a bad look for 2way, but it would also kill the credibility of LWSC and encourage programs to cheat in the future if there's no real penalty.

Anyone have more details?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

These are off the cuff numbers for 2028, so forgive me if I’m wrong.

Rebels has 3 teams
Express has 3 teams (I think)
Rush has 1 team
Igloo has 2 teams
Recon has 1 team
True blue has 1 team
91 has 2 teams
S2S had 1 team
Legacy has 3 teams.

Maybe I missed one or two, but let’s all agree on 17 teams for the 2028 graduation year on Long Island. The lumberjax are pretty much the 3rd best team out of 17 on Long Island. Maybe one or two teams below them could beat them on a given day. With that said, they could beat the two teams above them if all cylinders fire and the ball goes their way.

But anyway, on to my point and hopefully a moment of clarity. Can one of the two people I quoted please come back and answer this question?
What’s with the obsession with the lumberjax? In all seriousness, it’s perplexing. I’m going to make an assumption that you’re not venom or chuck parents. That wouldn’t make sense because you have beaten the lumberjax and truth be told have a roster that runs a bit deeper. Thus, any parent from the aforementioned teams wouldn’t waste their time on here bashing a team that is no threat to them. Which leads me to the motivation behind the obsession. Is it because your son tried out and didn’t make the team? A little bit of training can help that and I can recommend some facilities with quality training. I can see some bitterness arising from that but there is hope for your child. Or maybe your child was on the team and rode the bench, so you chose to leave? If that’s the case, I give the same advice. Train hard!
It’s a bit of a mystery to me so I would appreciate some insight. I’ll be waiting.

Coaching

If your looking for Coaching/low roster size tons of practices and Middle of the island - Try out at BTB - 18 field players and 2 goalies - Looking to add the correct depth and the coach won't just take anyone to fill roster spots.

Their coach is as good as it gets. They had a good core at end of last year but many left and it fell apart. He still does a great job and they compete all the time.

Correction,
Surge only has 31 players and 3 Daddy coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

These are off the cuff numbers for 2028, so forgive me if I’m wrong.

Rebels has 3 teams
Express has 3 teams (I think)
Rush has 1 team
Igloo has 2 teams
Recon has 1 team
True blue has 1 team
91 has 2 teams
S2S had 1 team
Legacy has 3 teams.

Maybe I missed one or two, but let’s all agree on 17 teams for the 2028 graduation year on Long Island. The lumberjax are pretty much the 3rd best team out of 17 on Long Island. Maybe one or two teams below them could beat them on a given day. With that said, they could beat the two teams above them if all cylinders fire and the ball goes their way.

But anyway, on to my point and hopefully a moment of clarity. Can one of the two people I quoted please come back and answer this question?
What’s with the obsession with the lumberjax? In all seriousness, it’s perplexing. I’m going to make an assumption that you’re not venom or chuck parents. That wouldn’t make sense because you have beaten the lumberjax and truth be told have a roster that runs a bit deeper. Thus, any parent from the aforementioned teams wouldn’t waste their time on here bashing a team that is no threat to them. Which leads me to the motivation behind the obsession. Is it because your son tried out and didn’t make the team? A little bit of training can help that and I can recommend some facilities with quality training. I can see some bitterness arising from that but there is hope for your child. Or maybe your child was on the team and rode the bench, so you chose to leave? If that’s the case, I give the same advice. Train hard!
It’s a bit of a mystery to me so I would appreciate some insight. I’ll be waiting.

Coaching

If your looking for Coaching/low roster size tons of practices and Middle of the island - Try out at BTB - 18 field players and 2 goalies - Looking to add the correct depth and the coach won't just take anyone to fill roster spots.

Their coach is as good as it gets. They had a good core at end of last year but many left and it fell apart. He still does a great job and they compete all the time.

Agreed. Coaching is top notch and they can hang with the better teams. Only going to improve each year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction,
Surge only has 31 players and 3 Daddy coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction,
Surge only has 31 players and 3 Daddy coaches

31??????
For the B team with a fool coach that’s insane

[quote=Anonymous]Correction,
Surge only has 31 players and 3 Daddy coaches

Cmon someone has to pay for the venom players tuition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lumberjax have left their legacy

Leave them alone they beat the 2nd to last team!

Only thing Legacy had in last several years is Taz but that is done now also. Overrated organization who just dangles that carrot in front of parents to the highest degree smh

Parents eat it up though. “Look at all the schools this team is sending kids to.”

they can sell it all they want, but they don’t have another team like that in their pipeline right now.

These are off the cuff numbers for 2028, so forgive me if I’m wrong.

Rebels has 3 teams
Express has 3 teams (I think)
Rush has 1 team
Igloo has 2 teams
Recon has 1 team
True blue has 1 team
91 has 2 teams
S2S had 1 team
Legacy has 3 teams.

Maybe I missed one or two, but let’s all agree on 17 teams for the 2028 graduation year on Long Island. The lumberjax are pretty much the 3rd best team out of 17 on Long Island. Maybe one or two teams below them could beat them on a given day. With that said, they could beat the two teams above them if all cylinders fire and the ball goes their way.

But anyway, on to my point and hopefully a moment of clarity. Can one of the two people I quoted please come back and answer this question?
What’s with the obsession with the lumberjax? In all seriousness, it’s perplexing. I’m going to make an assumption that you’re not venom or chuck parents. That wouldn’t make sense because you have beaten the lumberjax and truth be told have a roster that runs a bit deeper. Thus, any parent from the aforementioned teams wouldn’t waste their time on here bashing a team that is no threat to them. Which leads me to the motivation behind the obsession. Is it because your son tried out and didn’t make the team? A little bit of training can help that and I can recommend some facilities with quality training. I can see some bitterness arising from that but there is hope for your child. Or maybe your child was on the team and rode the bench, so you chose to leave? If that’s the case, I give the same advice. Train hard!
It’s a bit of a mystery to me so I would appreciate some insight. I’ll be waiting.

Coaching

If your looking for Coaching/low roster size tons of practices and Middle of the island - Try out at BTB - 18 field players and 2 goalies - Looking to add the correct depth and the coach won't just take anyone to fill roster spots.

Their coach is as good as it gets. They had a good core at end of last year but many left and it fell apart. He still does a great job and they compete all the time.

Not sure I’d say “fell apart”. Considering that 75% of the previous yr starters left (like the Baltimore Colts) for greener pastures LOL - coaching staff did a bang up job. If it’s about the bumper sticker - stay where you are. If you want to play meaningful games and learn then call us. If you paid 4K to watch little Johnny Laxbro stand on the sideline - I’m talking to you.

What happened to Igloo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The rumor flying around NC was that 2Way had 2 illegal kids. The tourney was made aware after the kids had played all day 1.. The only punishment . . . those 2 kids were no longer allowed to play.

I hope that's not the case. Obviously it would be a bad look for 2way, but it would also kill the credibility of LWSC and encourage programs to cheat in the future if there's no real penalty.

Anyone have more details?

I don’t know about the cheating but I can tell you all is the teams were chanting “cheaters” at them when they beat Philadelphia freedom. The kids all seem to know something. Then at the championship game all of the kids from other teams were openly rooting for North and booing 2Way. I feel for the kids because their coaches and program program really put them in a tough position.

In the end it didn’t matter because North beat them easily and was clearly the class of the tournament. That team kind of came out of nowhere but hats off to them. They beat all of the top teams convincingly.

According to Greta - Igloo melted!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The rumor flying around NC was that 2Way had 2 illegal kids. The tourney was made aware after the kids had played all day 1.. The only punishment . . . those 2 kids were no longer allowed to play.

I hope that's not the case. Obviously it would be a bad look for 2way, but it would also kill the credibility of LWSC and encourage programs to cheat in the future if there's no real penalty.

Anyone have more details?[/quote

I don’t know about the cheating but I can tell you all is the teams were chanting “cheaters” at them when they beat Philadelphia freedom. The kids all seem to know something. Then at the championship game all of the kids from other teams were openly rooting for North and booing 2Way. I feel for the kids because their coaches and program program really put them in a tough position.

In the end it didn’t matter because North beat them easily and was clearly the class of the tournament. That team kind of came out of nowhere but hats off to them. They beat all of the top teams convincingly.

North has been a great team for at least the past 3 yrs. Aside from being huge, they are well coached.

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

Curious to see what happens with all the pop up east teams from last year. Express, legacy, rebels. Will the kids return or do they struggle filling rosters.
Now turtles looking to make an east team. They couldn’t make a regular 28 team last year not sure what intel is telling them there is a big market for east but maybe they know something.

2way did what they always do, they cheated.

91 empire - trying again, no coaches announced

East Coast Elite - fairly new team, 2 20 something coaches, no travel, big lull in practices before the spring

Express East - according to ranking website they only have 3 games played?

GSB - Connor Farrell l, above average b team

Legacy Dune Dawgs - good head coach - decent b team

Legacy East - lesser b team

Rebels East Gators - not a competitive team 2-22-1

Rush - trying to start up a b team again, legit coaching staff

Turtles - trying to start again

My guess is that ECE, GSB, Legacy 2 teams and Rush would be the safest bets for B teams in the East

This is not true. All kids were legit. Someone started the rumor at the series. Probably a team that didn’t belong to be there. They were just that good. Deal with it.

Where are the rebels playing this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

If this is true it’s completely ridiculous and yet somehow not surprising - which says a lot for 2Way as a program. I’m glad they got waxed in the final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not true. All kids were legit. Someone started the rumor at the series. Probably a team that didn’t belong to be there. They were just that good. Deal with it.

Why were all the kids chanting “cheaters” at them?

Thank god they got smacked in the final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not true. All kids were legit. Someone started the rumor at the series. Probably a team that didn’t belong to be there. They were just that good. Deal with it.

Ok LaxGuyScotty, thanks for clarifying…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the rebels playing this weekend?

At this age, playing is all that matters, esp. as tryouts get close. Plenty of college kids home to train with too, or you can just sit back and watch your superstar’s WS highlights.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the rebels playing this weekend?

At this age, playing is all that matters, esp. as tryouts get close. Plenty of college kids home to train with too, or you can just sit back and watch your superstar’s WS highlights.

At this age, the kid enjoying playing lacrosse and not being forced to practice by a dad who is living his failed lacrosse dreams through him is all that matters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the rebels playing this weekend?

At this age, playing is all that matters, esp. as tryouts get close. Plenty of college kids home to train with too, or you can just sit back and watch your superstar’s WS highlights.

At this age, the kid enjoying playing lacrosse and not being forced to practice by a dad who is living his failed lacrosse dreams through him is all that matters

Both valid points. If the kid does not enjoy playing then with are you doing.. Playing time on a team is the number one factor. If your kid is not a starter or a regular and key piece of the team than you are wasting time and money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the rebels playing this weekend?

Big time shootout against decent teams

At this age, the kid enjoying playing lacrosse and not being forced to practice by a dad who is living his failed lacrosse dreams through him is all that matters[/quote]

A little too much projection here, did that post hit too close to home?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious to see what happens with all the pop up east teams from last year. Express, legacy, rebels. Will the kids return or do they struggle filling rosters.
Now turtles looking to make an east team. They couldn’t make a regular 28 team last year not sure what intel is telling them there is a big market for east but maybe they know something.

Not sure why hydra is under east they were always regular rebels. But the other rebels east team did not fair too well. I don’t believe the legacy/express east teams had much success either.

Someone posted above about 17 teams or so on the island.
And now add true to the mix. Too many teams, so watered down imo.

Anyone going to true tryouts?

The biggest fail by far was express East, avoid at all costs, followed up by rebels east (non hydra)

Is that why half of them aren’t even traveling to their last tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that why half of them aren’t even traveling to their last tournament?

That means plenty of playing time for the one’s that do go. Why do you care so much?

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Express just beat Surge 10-1 @ Gauntlet so you need to be realistic with your sons level of play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

If this is true it’s completely ridiculous and yet somehow not surprising - which says a lot for 2Way as a program. I’m glad they got waxed in the final.

We played them last summer, and they had two 2027 kids who they claimed “were gonna reclass to the 2028 class“ but never did. But because they said they would, they played down. Was thrilled to see Madlax thump them the next game, with their 2027’s. That is CHEATING. And it’s hard to pull for Madlax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Well, we just watched a totally different Freedom team whip up on MadLax today in a short-time final than the team we saw at the WS last week. So, by deduction, you’re complaining about Duke’s… who finished in 9th… this is what keeps you up at night?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express just beat Surge 10-1 @ Gauntlet so you need to be realistic with your sons level of play.

What are you trying to say?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express just beat Surge 10-1 @ Gauntlet so you need to be realistic with your sons level of play.

Huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Well, we just watched a totally different Freedom team whip up on MadLax today in a short-time final than the team we saw at the WS last week. So, by deduction, you’re complaining about Duke’s… who finished in 9th… this is what keeps you up at night?

It Wasn’t Dukes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Proof or are you just talking nonsense? If they were to put 14 year olds on the team why not just keep the holdbacks they already have on their team instead?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Proof or are you just talking nonsense? If they were to put 14 year olds on the team why not just keep the holdbacks they already have on their team instead?

Considering this is BOTC - how exactly would you want proof produced?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Proof or are you just talking nonsense? If they were to put 14 year olds on the team why not just keep the holdbacks they already have on their team instead?

Agreed. Delusional talk from a misinformed, uneducated parent. All talk when the coaches have access to Player Authenticate, just ask 2Way. Make the inquiry. Post the results.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Proof or are you just talking nonsense? If they were to put 14 year olds on the team why not just keep the holdbacks they already have on their team instead?

Agreed. Delusional talk from a misinformed, uneducated parent. All talk when the coaches have access to Player Authenticate, just ask 2Way. Make the inquiry. Post the results.

2 way kids were changing jersey. If they were not cheating why change jerseys.

Considering this is BOTC - how exactly would you want proof produced?[/quote]

At least be man enough to give the number of the kid you think is cheating... it anonymous so even a laxers like you shouldn't be worried.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Not a doubt in my mind

Why isn’t venom in NLF tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One particular PA team had 14 year olds playing at World Series.

This is fact.

illegal kids played - and will continue to play. Clubs and parents always will cheat.

Proof or are you just talking nonsense? If they were to put 14 year olds on the team why not just keep the holdbacks they already have on their team instead?

Agreed. Delusional talk from a misinformed, uneducated parent. All talk when the coaches have access to Player Authenticate, just ask 2Way. Make the inquiry. Post the results.

2 way kids were changing jersey. If they were not cheating why change jerseys.

Didn’t intend to imply they were cheating, but just that they were checked and confirmed. As noted, there was an abnormality, it was explained and confirmed through the supplied documentation. End of story.

Or we can just make baseless accusations.

NLF tournament is a sinking ship. 91 and Express block all LI clubs from attending. Getting a lot of blowback and Venom now not even attending.

Smoke and mirrors from Express North. Lost several times in qualifiers. Lost this last weekend to Prime Time, who has barely won all summer. Somehow managed to beat BBL, Venom, and 2WAY. North cheated at LWSC championship. Shameful and disappointing for everyone involved. LWSC is seriously looking into this.

Wow. Eclipse or Prime Time parent really showing their true colors here. 2WAY followed all the rules and did great. Every team there competed hard and played fair. Funny to see complaints about 2WAY when their best players this year plaid up (not down) and were amongst their best players on last year's world series team. Nice posts Eclipse dads. 10 boys from your 2027 team are re-classing to 2028s. New Canaan has gone fool. Eclipse is now the worst offender of re-classing. Worse than 3D New England, Madlax, and everyone else. A whole 2028 squad with 2008 and 2009 birth year boys. Way to go Eclipse.

And rebels went 0-5 so I guess they shouldn’t be playing against “decent teams” anymore.

Replying to the parent of the ‘AA player’ asking about tryouts who thinks his kid can play for Express, Venom or Surge….Surge is not in the same category buddy!

Venom canceled the rest of the season after losing in the playoffs at the WS…sore losers didn’t even announce their team and walk in the parade of teams at the championship game, yet many players and at least 1 coach were at the game. Canceled all remaining practices, backed out of last 2 tournaments….trouble in paradise Venom? I hope 91 at least gave everyone a $500 credit for pulling out of 2 tournaments that they paid for. One of the coaches watched the entire Express/Surge game this weekend…maybe recruiting Surge players to pull up or looking to move his kid to Express?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And rebels went 0-5 so I guess they shouldn’t be playing against “decent teams” anymore.

They don’t usually play these types of teams. They didn’t do much worse than teams like igloo, primetime, legacy, predators that go against those top teams.
I’m a believer you have to play tough teams to get better. Why are you mad bro

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And rebels went 0-5 so I guess they shouldn’t be playing against “decent teams” anymore.

They hung with some tough teams. Nothing to be ashamed about, unlike people who anonymously take shots on middle school lacrosse threads.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smoke and mirrors from Express North. Lost several times in qualifiers. Lost this last weekend to Prime Time, who has barely won all summer. Somehow managed to beat BBL, Venom, and 2WAY. North cheated at LWSC championship. Shameful and disappointing for everyone involved. LWSC is seriously looking into this.

I heard this too, but think it's just rumors after North's poor performance this weekend. How did they cheat?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Eclipse or Prime Time parent really showing their true colors here. 2WAY followed all the rules and did great. Every team there competed hard and played fair. Funny to see complaints about 2WAY when their best players this year plaid up (not down) and were amongst their best players on last year's world series team. Nice posts Eclipse dads. 10 boys from your 2027 team are re-classing to 2028s. New Canaan has gone fool. Eclipse is now the worst offender of re-classing. Worse than 3D New England, Madlax, and everyone else. A whole 2028 squad with 2008 and 2009 birth year boys. Way to go Eclipse.

Big deal. Most programs have many hold backs. 91 and Express eventually have all their St. Anthony's and Chaminade guys. Kids from FL and TX. MD and NE prep schools all hold backs. Eclipse doing what everyone else is. This is nothing.

If you are reclassing you won’t be able to play in any NLF tournaments or US Club Lax National Championships and who knows how many other tournaments by next summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are reclassing you won’t be able to play in any NLF tournaments or US Club Lax National Championships and who knows how many other tournaments by next summer.

The reclass calculus is going to get more complicated but it will still happen. When a reclass is in 8th grade and their on-age team is in 9th grade they'll miss out on the development in Spring when their teammates are playing for their highschools. They'll be at a big disadvantage when the HS season ends and the team prepares for and plays summer tournaments. I suppose they could practice with their clubs 8th grade team during the Spring to help mitigate that if allowed.

I'm not a parent of a reclass so I can't speak for the rationale, but I assume it's all about getting the advantage during the sophomore year of HS which still doesn't really change. The instagram videos during the younger grades were just a bonus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are reclassing you won’t be able to play in any NLF tournaments or US Club Lax National Championships and who knows how many other tournaments by next summer.

The reclass calculus is going to get more complicated but it will still happen. When a reclass is in 8th grade and their on-age team is in 9th grade they'll miss out on the development in Spring when their teammates are playing for their highschools. They'll be at a big disadvantage when the HS season ends and the team prepares for and plays summer tournaments. I suppose they could practice with their clubs 8th grade team during the Spring to help mitigate that if allowed.

I'm not a parent of a reclass so I can't speak for the rationale, but I assume it's all about getting the advantage during the sophomore year of HS which still doesn't really change. The instagram videos during the younger grades were just a bonus.

Ridiculous statement, the re-class kids are always better than the rest, check every D-1 roster, those kids look disadvantaged to you?

Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions

Lots of outsiders and surge kids at rebels tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smoke and mirrors from Express North. Lost several times in qualifiers. Lost this last weekend to Prime Time, who has barely won all summer. Somehow managed to beat BBL, Venom, and 2WAY. North cheated at LWSC championship. Shameful and disappointing for everyone involved. LWSC is seriously looking into this.

Parent of a North kid. What's shameful and disappointing is this nonsense. If you have specific claims I'm happy to address, but I know you have none as the team was legit. This past weekend the team had an off day Saturday, could be a let down from accomplishing something 24 others couldn't in Charlotte (and no team off Long Island EVER has). But that would also be unfair to Prime Time, who played their butts off in a one goal victory. FWIW, North came back and beat PT the following day 11-1. The North Team is solid and has been for a long time. Disrespected in the rankings going in, and boys love being underestimated with talk like "smoke and mirrors". Not saying team is better than our neighbors at Eclipse, 2 way, 3D, Chucks, Venom, etc...but for at least that week in Charlotte they were.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions

NLF Championship is a sinking ship. Express blocks all LI teams. Other NLF clubs blocking all the best teams just because they're competitors. No LI teams beside Express. No 3D NE. No 2WAY. No BBL. What used to be a great tournament is now a non event. Venom doesn't even want to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

If this is true it’s completely ridiculous and yet somehow not surprising - which says a lot for 2Way as a program. I’m glad they got waxed in the final.

This post clearly written by Express North coach or Prime Time. Absurd and ridiculous to claim any team at world series cheated. Everyone followed the rules. So telling that you sweat 2WAY so much and are obsessing about their U13 roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

If this is true it’s completely ridiculous and yet somehow not surprising - which says a lot for 2Way as a program. I’m glad they got waxed in the final.

We played them last summer, and they had two 2027 kids who they claimed “were gonna reclass to the 2028 class“ but never did. But because they said they would, they played down. Was thrilled to see Madlax thump them the next game, with their 2027’s. That is CHEATING. And it’s hard to pull for Madlax.

Wrong. 2WAY may have some re-classes but not kids who are "gonna re-class." We play them a lot and know that for a fact. Don't be ridiculous. And your MadLax comment is just horrible. They have 2008 birth years on that team and bring in kids from other states. Come on man!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smoke and mirrors from Express North. Lost several times in qualifiers. Lost this last weekend to Prime Time, who has barely won all summer. Somehow managed to beat BBL, Venom, and 2WAY. North cheated at LWSC championship. Shameful and disappointing for everyone involved. LWSC is seriously looking into this.

I heard this too, but think it's just rumors after North's poor performance this weekend. How did they cheat?

North coaches are always up to something. Caught many times bringing down 27's. They claim "age eligible" whatever that means. Everybody knows this about them. Coach is always messaging players and families from other clubs and trying to "steal" them. Shady.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions

Why will surge benefit? Please explain.
What are rebels parents upset about? Please explain

Where are the new faces that will help legacy or new additions to Rush / s2s coming from? Please explain

Why no mention of igloo northmen?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions

[quote=Anonymous]Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions[/quote

The A or B team for 91 whether it’s Havoc or Surge seems to be cursed

After Havoc disbanded and Surge started the team has been plagued with issues from the first year original Surge coach never showing up to practices or tournaments and the 4 current surge coaches not being able to be on
the same page

Anyone watching a game or tournament can see how this team is coached from one day to the next depending on who is on the sidelines

Highly unlikely they the coaches will stick together after the showing this year and the shedding of half the players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions

I’m just here for the comments on this doozy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions

Why will surge benefit? Please explain.
What are rebels parents upset about? Please explain

Where are the new faces that will help legacy or new additions to Rush / s2s coming from? Please explain

From what I’ve heard from rebels parents

-Every other player on the team isn’t very good, their son needs a better support crew
-Playing time
-Insufficient coaching

I have no clue where new kids can come from for teams I’m search of them, but they are out there, and with everything going on this year many moves will be happening, I know some tryout numbers are massive at the moment

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no mention of igloo northmen?

Are they still a team? Been invisible

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no mention of igloo northmen?

Igloo Northmen is listed under lower AA, no big thoughts as them as they’ve been missing from most big tournaments.

Don’t come on here and dog Surge. Obviously you have a motive against them. They’re a great group of kids, who are well coached by varsity HS coaches. The roster was too big and got some parents disgruntled with playing time. They have some very talented kids and will be playing in all the top tournaments. Please tell us which team we should be playing with because you seem to know everything. Signed a happy surge parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smoke and mirrors from Express North. Lost several times in qualifiers. Lost this last weekend to Prime Time, who has barely won all summer. Somehow managed to beat BBL, Venom, and 2WAY. North cheated at LWSC championship. Shameful and disappointing for everyone involved. LWSC is seriously looking into this.

Parent of a North kid. What's shameful and disappointing is this nonsense. If you have specific claims I'm happy to address, but I know you have none as the team was legit. This past weekend the team had an off day Saturday, could be a let down from accomplishing something 24 others couldn't in Charlotte (and no team off Long Island EVER has). But that would also be unfair to Prime Time, who played their butts off in a one goal victory. FWIW, North came back and beat PT the following day 11-1. The North Team is solid and has been for a long time. Disrespected in the rankings going in, and boys love being underestimated with talk like "smoke and mirrors". Not saying team is better than our neighbors at Eclipse, 2 way, 3D, Chucks, Venom, etc...but for at least that week in Charlotte they were.

North parent. Hats off to WS team. I can't see how any team can "cheat" at that event. Hats off to North and 2WAY for convincingly beating everyone and getting to the finals. Congrats to North as champions. And congrats to 2WAY as runner up. Kids deserve all the credit. What is shameful is any parent coming on here and trying to take anything away from them. Incredibly hard to accomplish what either team did and all of their boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no mention of igloo northmen?

Igloo Northmen is listed under lower AA, no big thoughts as them as they’ve been missing from most big tournaments.

they are actually better than prior years. finished with all their players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don’t come on here and dog Surge. Obviously you have a motive against them. They’re a great group of kids, who are well coached by varsity HS coaches. The roster was too big and got some parents disgruntled with playing time. They have some very talented kids and will be playing in all the top tournaments. Please tell us which team we should be playing with because you seem to know everything. Signed a happy surge parent

"No one puts Surgie in a corner"

I was missing the Surge posts. I for one am glad the world series is over and we can discuss the wonderfulness of Surge again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don’t come on here and dog Surge. Obviously you have a motive against them. They’re a great group of kids, who are well coached by varsity HS coaches. The roster was too big and got some parents disgruntled with playing time. They have some very talented kids and will be playing in all the top tournaments. Please tell us which team we should be playing with because you seem to know everything. Signed a happy surge parent

"No one puts Surgie in a corner"

I was missing the Surge posts. I for one am glad the world series is over and we can discuss the wonderfulness of Surge again

Didnt one of the 2028 Surge parents recently get kicked out of a tournament against the Dragons LC for being intoxicated, running on the field, pushing and/or drunkenly falling on a Dragons' player and then starting a fight with the ref?

Video or it didn’t happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Video or it didn’t happen

Ha! Thanks for the confirmation! It wasn’t Hunter Biden either…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout season is here for Long Island and it seems some shakeups will be going on. The goal is to place your son on the best possible team that he contributes to, my metric of this would be be as a goalie, defender or attack man to play atleast 1/3 of the game and middies should be in the rotation (not 1-2 runs per game)

First off only 1 Long Island team is in the NLF Championship, the obvious team missing is Venom, I’d love to hear why they aren’t going.

The tier of teams has become very evident

Top AA - Express and Venom
With Venom bailing on NLF does this put the momentum behind Express going into tryouts?

AA - Legacy, Rush and S2S
With a few additions Rush and S2S can be more competitive with top teams, Legacy will probably bring in some new faces, will they be able to over the hump, big expectations this year, the best team they beat was S2S

Lower AA - BTB, Igloo, Rebels Hydra, Surge
Upset parents and drama at Hydra and Surge, they’ll definitely be new rosters next season, my guess is for the positive for Surge and negative for Rebels

Purgatory - Igloo Frost

Top B - Dune Dawgs, GSB, Hitmen

B- ECE, Legacy East, Rebels red wolves, recon

Struggling teams - BTB red, express Pomp, Rebels East, S2S scorpions

S2S and Rush is right there with the lower AA teams. Don’t kid yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

If this is true it’s completely ridiculous and yet somehow not surprising - which says a lot for 2Way as a program. I’m glad they got waxed in the final.

We played them last summer, and they had two 2027 kids who they claimed “were gonna reclass to the 2028 class“ but never did. But because they said they would, they played down. Was thrilled to see Madlax thump them the next game, with their 2027’s. That is CHEATING. And it’s hard to pull for Madlax.

Wrong. 2WAY may have some re-classes but not kids who are "gonna re-class." We play them a lot and know that for a fact. Don't be ridiculous. And your MadLax comment is just horrible. They have 2008 birth years on that team and bring in kids from other states. Come on man!

Won’t use names, but #8 and #1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

If this is true it’s completely ridiculous and yet somehow not surprising - which says a lot for 2Way as a program. I’m glad they got waxed in the final.

We played them last summer, and they had two 2027 kids who they claimed “were gonna reclass to the 2028 class“ but never did. But because they said they would, they played down. Was thrilled to see Madlax thump them the next game, with their 2027’s. That is CHEATING. And it’s hard to pull for Madlax.

Wrong. 2WAY may have some re-classes but not kids who are "gonna re-class." We play them a lot and know that for a fact. Don't be ridiculous. And your MadLax comment is just horrible. They have 2008 birth years on that team and bring in kids from other states. Come on man!

Won’t use names, but #8 and #1

Both of those kids are 2028s. Re-classed yes. 2028s for the last few school years. No different than kids at Laxachussetts, MadLax, Hawks, Crabs, 3D NE, Eclipse. Get over your issues with 2WAY. One of those kids moved to Eclipse anyway.

2WAY #26 and #44 both played in world series this year and last year and play up on 2027s for years. Express North #4 from world series team also plays up. Eclipse #7 also plays up. And there are plenty more. All this obsession with re-classing. These kids playing up and doing it well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. They had 1 (maybe 2) players that were not in the qualifier roster that they brought, got called out for doing it, and still were allowed to play with the player(s). Add to that the team is a CT, NY, MA, PA, and NJ team that was mostly new players to the club/age group based out of Greenwich CT it was essentially an all-star team stretching the 100 mile rule pretty good. The program dumped ~10 players to bring on a group of kids from NJ who were all new to 2Way. These guys actually are worse than the Boston Blue Jays who at least didn’t pretend to be a club team. 2Way directors/coaches should be ashamed to have put those kids in that position. The team was booed and shouted at as “cheaters” after their win over Freedom. The entire stadium at the final was cheering for Express North over 2Way for obvious reasons. No wonder 2Way isn’t in the NAL or NLF.

If this is true it’s completely ridiculous and yet somehow not surprising - which says a lot for 2Way as a program. I’m glad they got waxed in the final.

As someone already said, all world series rosters available on tourney machine. 2W didn't bring anyone not on their roster or from PA. Express North didn't cheat. And there's no PA team with a 14 year old. Go to tourney machine where full rosters are there and point it out to LWSC since it's public if you're so sure. Can't wait to see what gibberish you will spew this weekend when your attention turns to NLF championships. Oh and the only person who is worried if 2W is in NAL or NLF is Prime Time; well done revealing yourself.

S2S dad here….Leading Edge, Legacy, we played both tight and actually beat legacy . But how does Legacy have a 7-1 lead at halftime and lose 8-7??? LE has a student #89 (I think). S2S is on their way, we love the coaches. Need a few more parts to get to next level

Why is hydra in Hershey? And nice try S2S dad, I think we’ll take a pass on that team. Too strong of an allegiance to Garden City

Oh Yea Hi .... S2S needs more than a few more parts. Problem there is that there is no development of the new players who are bought in. If their F/O guy wasn't top on the island they would get crushed each game. Hope that kid isn't paying tuition like the rest of the PW players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh Yea Hi .... S2S needs more than a few more parts. Problem there is that there is no development of the new players who are bought in. If their F/O guy wasn't top on the island they would get crushed each game. Hope that kid isn't paying tuition like the rest of the PW players.

F/O guy not top

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh Yea Hi .... S2S needs more than a few more parts. Problem there is that there is no development of the new players who are bought in. If their F/O guy wasn't top on the island they would get crushed each game. Hope that kid isn't paying tuition like the rest of the PW players.

F/O guy not top

He is not a guy. He is a kid. Something you people should be reminded of before you post.
He is also a great player so who cares if he is top?

hydra is a joke

Let’s go Hawks!

They didn’t let up a goal bro how is that a joke ?!?!? Lol

How come venom didn’t go to the nlf?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s go Hawks!

Congrats to leading edge on having a no-name player, only one without a matching helmet... and who's name was not on the roster given to espn for the championship game.. Cheating right before the eyes of the nation

That’s why they couldn’t enter a World Series team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hydra is a joke

No more than most teams. Why you mad bro?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come venom didn’t go to the nlf?

Maybe they are tired of playing 15 year olds?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come venom didn’t go to the nlf?

To busy crying about their on age World Series loss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come venom didn’t go to the nlf?

To busy crying about their on age World Series loss

All that build up, then nothing, and they
cancel the rest of their season. But please tell us it’s about the kids, not your fragile parent egos.

Tryouts are this week. What will venom do? How many will they add/drop?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come venom didn’t go to the nlf?

To busy crying about their on age World Series loss

All that build up, then nothing, and they
cancel the rest of their season. But please tell us it’s about the kids, not your fragile parent egos.

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

The immature nasty comments are definitely from people trying to create news or drama on ALL teams. Don’t take the bait people!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

They shut down their season after the World Series. The kids know why, the parents don't seem too or don't want to admit it.

They are a great team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

They shut down their season after the World Series. The kids know why, the parents don't seem too or don't want to admit it.

They are a great team.

Decision was made not to play- right or wrong good or bad. They would have been fine at NLF and would have had good a shot at any to win. See everyone who thinks venom stinks at tryouts tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

They shut down their season after the World Series. The kids know why, the parents don't seem too or don't want to admit it.

They are a great team.

Decision was made not to play- right or wrong good or bad. They would have been fine at NLF and would have had good a shot at any to win. See everyone who thinks venom stinks at tryouts tomorrow.

Maybe they didn’t want to go to a tournament and compete with holdbacks and reclasss “athletes” who don’t have the skill to stand out on age. What’s the point in wasting that time and money. Granted, I have no idea if they actually backed out, or were never intending on going, but if I was a parent on that team I would certainly be happy with not going. When is enough enough already?

The last year and a half and the next year are going to flat out [Censored] for Long Island teams. Not one team on the island will stand out on the national level unfortunately. Blame the system and blame the powers that be that have allowed cheating to occur for so long. Stop measuring the success of Long Island teams against teams with rosters consisting of 50% holdbacks. It shows you have no clue about not only the lacrosse world, but also basic physiology and how the stages of puberty work. Go educate yourself.

As far as the venom bashing, you all need a reality check. There are about 20 kids on the island that could currently try out for venom and find a spot. That’s 20, give or take, out of a few thousand that play lacrosse. And if you’re coming on here bashing that team, your child is NOT one of those 20 kids. It’s a fact. Accept it. Go to trainings. Hire a trainer. Take speed and agility. Hit the bounce back. Do whatever it takes to stop making yourself like the fool we all know you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

They shut down their season after the World Series. The kids know why, the parents don't seem too or don't want to admit it.

They are a great team.

Decision was made not to play- right or wrong good or bad. They would have been fine at NLF and would have had good a shot at any to win. See everyone who thinks venom stinks at tryouts tomorrow.

Maybe they didn’t want to go to a tournament and compete with holdbacks and reclasss “athletes” who don’t have the skill to stand out on age. What’s the point in wasting that time and money. Granted, I have no idea if they actually backed out, or were never intending on going, but if I was a parent on that team I would certainly be happy with not going. When is enough enough already?

The last year and a half and the next year are going to flat out [Censored] for Long Island teams. Not one team on the island will stand out on the national level unfortunately. Blame the system and blame the powers that be that have allowed cheating to occur for so long. Stop measuring the success of Long Island teams against teams with rosters consisting of 50% holdbacks. It shows you have no clue about not only the lacrosse world, but also basic physiology and how the stages of puberty work. Go educate yourself.

As far as the venom bashing, you all need a reality check. There are about 20 kids on the island that could currently try out for venom and find a spot. That’s 20, give or take, out of a few thousand that play lacrosse. And if you’re coming on here bashing that team, your child is NOT one of those 20 kids. It’s a fact. Accept it. Go to trainings. Hire a trainer. Take speed and agility. Hit the bounce back. Do whatever it takes to stop making yourself like the fool we all know you are.

Maybe they didn’t want to go to a tournament and compete with holdbacks and reclasss “athletes” who don’t have the skill to stand out on age. What’s the point in wasting that time and money. Granted, I have no idea if they actually backed out, or were never intending on going, but if I was a parent on that team I would certainly be happy with not going. When is enough enough already?

The last year and a half and the next year are going to flat out [Censored] for Long Island teams. Not one team on the island will stand out on the national level unfortunately. Blame the system and blame the powers that be that have allowed cheating to occur for so long. Stop measuring the success of Long Island teams against teams with rosters consisting of 50% holdbacks. It shows you have no clue about not only the lacrosse world, but also basic physiology and how the stages of puberty work. Go educate yourself.

As far as the venom bashing, you all need a reality check. There are about 20 kids on the island that could currently try out for venom and find a spot. That’s 20, give or take, out of a few thousand that play lacrosse. And if you’re coming on here bashing that team, your child is NOT one of those 20 kids. It’s a fact. Accept it. Go to trainings. Hire a trainer. Take speed and agility. Hit the bounce back. Do whatever it takes to stop making yourself like the fool we all know you are.[/quote]

1. Venom is a great team
2. Yes holdbacks are a problem . . . but canceling the remainder of your season because of them is shortsighted.
3. Continue to compete against the holdbacks. You might take some lumps now, but when all the kids hit puberty the venom kids will be on top because they are tougher having to compete against big kids.
4. Bailing on tourneys because the parents egos are bruised doesn't help the kids. You're letting the holdbacks win.

Keep fighting Venom. The on age parents out here are rooting for you.

I agree with at least 1 thing you said. Your team is going to have a long 8th grade season if they waste it complaining about hold backs the entire time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

They shut down their season after the World Series. The kids know why, the parents don't seem too or don't want to admit it.

They are a great team.

Decision was made not to play- right or wrong good or bad. They would have been fine at NLF and would have had good a shot at any to win. See everyone who thinks venom stinks at tryouts tomorrow.

Maybe they didn’t want to go to a tournament and compete with holdbacks and reclasss “athletes” who don’t have the skill to stand out on age. What’s the point in wasting that time and money. Granted, I have no idea if they actually backed out, or were never intending on going, but if I was a parent on that team I would certainly be happy with not going. When is enough enough already?

The last year and a half and the next year are going to flat out [Censored] for Long Island teams. Not one team on the island will stand out on the national level unfortunately. Blame the system and blame the powers that be that have allowed cheating to occur for so long. Stop measuring the success of Long Island teams against teams with rosters consisting of 50% holdbacks. It shows you have no clue about not only the lacrosse world, but also basic physiology and how the stages of puberty work. Go educate yourself.

As far as the venom bashing, you all need a reality check. There are about 20 kids on the island that could currently try out for venom and find a spot. That’s 20, give or take, out of a few thousand that play lacrosse. And if you’re coming on here bashing that team, your child is NOT one of those 20 kids. It’s a fact. Accept it. Go to trainings. Hire a trainer. Take speed and agility. Hit the bounce back. Do whatever it takes to stop making yourself like the fool we all know you are.

For everyone that believes this rhetoric, please remember, many of the best 2028s in the country are playing a 2027 schedule. There are many kids that we don't even know are 28s, because we've only seen them on 2027 teams. Stop worrying about holdbacks and start worrying about competition level and working to bridge any gap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

They shut down their season after the World Series. The kids know why, the parents don't seem too or don't want to admit it.

They are a great team.

Decision was made not to play- right or wrong good or bad. They would have been fine at NLF and would have had good a shot at any to win. See everyone who thinks venom stinks at tryouts tomorrow.

Maybe they didn’t want to go to a tournament and compete with holdbacks and reclasss “athletes” who don’t have the skill to stand out on age. What’s the point in wasting that time and money. Granted, I have no idea if they actually backed out, or were never intending on going, but if I was a parent on that team I would certainly be happy with not going. When is enough enough already?

The last year and a half and the next year are going to flat out [Censored] for Long Island teams. Not one team on the island will stand out on the national level unfortunately. Blame the system and blame the powers that be that have allowed cheating to occur for so long. Stop measuring the success of Long Island teams against teams with rosters consisting of 50% holdbacks. It shows you have no clue about not only the lacrosse world, but also basic physiology and how the stages of puberty work. Go educate yourself.

As far as the venom bashing, you all need a reality check. There are about 20 kids on the island that could currently try out for venom and find a spot. That’s 20, give or take, out of a few thousand that play lacrosse. And if you’re coming on here bashing that team, your child is NOT one of those 20 kids. It’s a fact. Accept it. Go to trainings. Hire a trainer. Take speed and agility. Hit the bounce back. Do whatever it takes to stop making yourself like the fool we all know you are.

For everyone that believes this rhetoric, please remember, many of the best 2028s in the country are playing a 2027 schedule. There are many kids that we don't even know are 28s, because we've only seen them on 2027 teams. Stop worrying about holdbacks and start worrying about competition level and working to bridge any gap.

Stop worrying in general and try to enjoy the game. It is FUN!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hydra is a joke

No more than most teams. Why you mad bro?

This is the most accurate response I have seen in this place. Well done sir. I don't know anything about Hydra. But I've been around enough to know that most teams are jokes is one regard or another. What else would we have to talk about?

Is the Rebels Black team being formed to get away from the mess that is Hydra and their parents or just a way for the Rebels moms to hide the chili stains?

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

Surge will be good

Express’s second team has consistently been one of the worst teams around, the only LI teams that they beat are BTB B and rebels East b

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

How was legacy tryouts? Heard they are losing a ton of kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

Surge will be good

Express’s second team has consistently been one of the worst teams around, the only LI teams that they beat are BTB B and rebels East b

No venom players are going to surge just stop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Rebels Black team being formed to get away from the mess that is Hydra and their parents or just a way for the Rebels moms to hide the chili stains?

They aren’t the only mess. See legacy. Maybe adding more turtles will help like last year ie turtlewax how did that work out? They got into WS by beating rebels by 1

How did s2s do in WS? Or Rush? Or igloo?

Rebels have obnoxious parents just like legacy Rush and don’t get me started on 91. Have you been on a sideline with them!
The loud parents aren’t always the worst it’s the ones that operate behind the scenes that are toxic. Beware

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

That would require checking egos at the door and that won’t happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Rebels Black team being formed to get away from the mess that is Hydra and their parents or just a way for the Rebels moms to hide the chili stains?

They aren’t the only mess. See legacy. Maybe adding more turtles will help like last year ie turtlewax how did that work out? They got into WS by beating rebels by 1

How did s2s do in WS? Or Rush? Or igloo?

Rebels have obnoxious parents just like legacy Rush and don’t get me started on 91. Have you been on a sideline with them!
The loud parents aren’t always the worst it’s the ones that operate behind the scenes that are toxic. Beware

In one post you managed to jump on the bandwagon by bashing rebels. Then proceeded to insult legacy, S2S, rush, igloo, and 91. You’re an angry little elf and must be fun at parties.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

That would require checking egos at the door and that won’t happen

That will never happen. It’s been suggested for years. Let people learn the hard way that once the recruiting years come…you can’t get committed from the sidelines and coaches watch B teams. And they justify it by saying my son gets great reps at practice vs top players. Okay, I get that, but in the end, make it enjoyable for your son and yourselves and put him in a spot where he can succeed on the field. Don’t we all just want to see our sons play? Instead of standing on the sidelines?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Rebels Black team being formed to get away from the mess that is Hydra and their parents or just a way for the Rebels moms to hide the chili stains?

They aren’t the only mess. See legacy. Maybe adding more turtles will help like last year ie turtlewax how did that work out? They got into WS by beating rebels by 1

How did s2s do in WS? Or Rush? Or igloo?

Rebels have obnoxious parents just like legacy Rush and don’t get me started on 91. Have you been on a sideline with them!
The loud parents aren’t always the worst it’s the ones that operate behind the scenes that are toxic. Beware

In one post you managed to jump on the bandwagon by bashing rebels. Then proceeded to insult legacy, S2S, rush, igloo, and 91. You’re an angry little elf and must be fun at parties.

Spreading the love to all of you. Point being it isn’t just one team that beaut is trying to [Censored] one team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

Surge will be good

Express’s second team has consistently been one of the worst teams around, the only LI teams that they beat are BTB B and rebels East b

No venom players are going to surge just stop

Plenty of Venom players sitting, wondering when they’ll get their shot. Then they cancel going to NLF so some of these kids played maybe 15 minutes all year, total. But keep telling us there aren’t 20 kids who can make this team just to sit and watch. Ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a big turnout for express tryouts, similar size for 91. I’m expecting these organizations 2nd team to be really good. Some of these top team kids who don’t play a lot should consider coming down to get the minutes

Surge will be good

Express’s second team has consistently been one of the worst teams around, the only LI teams that they beat are BTB B and rebels East b

No venom players are going to surge just stop

Plenty of Venom players sitting, wondering when they’ll get their shot. Then they cancel going to NLF so some of these kids played maybe 15 minutes all year, total. But keep telling us there aren’t 20 kids who can make this team just to sit and watch. Ridiculous.

Advice from a parent with an older kid who went through this - if your son is not seeing any time, he is on the wrong team. If you are think he will be as good as everyone that does play, its a long shot. Get to a team where he plays. And is actually part of the team. Trust me!

My son was on a top 20 team last year (north east based) and got limited minutes. He took a lot of pride in being part of the team, wearing the swag, etc. He wasn't offered the opportunity to stay and was devastated for a few days, but fortunately joined a lower level team he loves. He quickly became a starter, plays on man up team, and has had a great experience. Knowing that he is a valuable contributor on the team has been great for his self esteem instead of the stress of struggling to hang on each week while he waits for his late growth spurt). He’s still developing and getting better albeit not competing at the highest level (now playing teams ranked 50-110 mostly). He looks back now and not making the team last year was a blessing for him. What the prior poster said rings so true from my sons experience. Think long a hard about what is best for your kid. You have to be real about where your kid is and guide them on what is best. They only get these years once and they go fast. Don’t waste them!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son was on a top 20 team last year (north east based) and got limited minutes. He took a lot of pride in being part of the team, wearing the swag, etc. He wasn't offered the opportunity to stay and was devastated for a few days, but fortunately joined a lower level team he loves. He quickly became a starter, plays on man up team, and has had a great experience. Knowing that he is a valuable contributor on the team has been great for his self esteem instead of the stress of struggling to hang on each week while he waits for his late growth spurt). He’s still developing and getting better albeit not competing at the highest level (now playing teams ranked 50-110 mostly). He looks back now and not making the team last year was a blessing for him. What the prior poster said rings so true from my sons experience. Think long a hard about what is best for your kid. You have to be real about where your kid is and guide them on what is best. They only get these years once and they go fast. Don’t waste them!

This is a nice post for everyone and I agree. Find what works for you but the first thing you need to decide are what are your expectations: High d1 or high d3? Then you generally need to be on a top club AND get playing time to get recruited by those colleges.

If your expectations are d2 or mid low d3 then you can get recruited from any club team so playing time will matter.

The next step after expectations is does your kids talent meet those expectations? If those are not in alignment you are setting yourself up for a lot of pain and extra money.

My kid played on a top 50 AA club and probably had A- talent but not A+ talent. But he had high academic aspirations and was not going to sacrifice academics for simply the sake of saying he played mid-low D1. So he got into a high academic school that plays in the MCLA and he is perfectly happy. Remember that lax is finite, so don’t make short term decisions with long term consequences. That was his path so yiurs will be different; just be brutally honest about your expectations and your kids talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son was on a top 20 team last year (north east based) and got limited minutes. He took a lot of pride in being part of the team, wearing the swag, etc. He wasn't offered the opportunity to stay and was devastated for a few days, but fortunately joined a lower level team he loves. He quickly became a starter, plays on man up team, and has had a great experience. Knowing that he is a valuable contributor on the team has been great for his self esteem instead of the stress of struggling to hang on each week while he waits for his late growth spurt). He’s still developing and getting better albeit not competing at the highest level (now playing teams ranked 50-110 mostly). He looks back now and not making the team last year was a blessing for him. What the prior poster said rings so true from my sons experience. Think long a hard about what is best for your kid. You have to be real about where your kid is and guide them on what is best. They only get these years once and they go fast. Don’t waste them!

This is a nice post for everyone and I agree. Find what works for you but the first thing you need to decide are what are your expectations: High d1 or high d3? Then you generally need to be on a top club AND get playing time to get recruited by those colleges.

If your expectations are d2 or mid low d3 then you can get recruited from any club team so playing time will matter.

The next step after expectations is does your kids talent meet those expectations? If those are not in alignment you are setting yourself up for a lot of pain and extra money.

My kid played on a top 50 AA club and probably had A- talent but not A+ talent. But he had high academic aspirations and was not going to sacrifice academics for simply the sake of saying he played mid-low D1. So he got into a high academic school that plays in the MCLA and he is perfectly happy. Remember that lax is finite, so don’t make short term decisions with long term consequences. That was his path so yiurs will be different; just be brutally honest about your expectations and your kids talent

enjoyed reading your post. Would you mind saying which MCLA school he went to? Each year, I keep thinking that is probably the right path forward for 90% of players out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son was on a top 20 team last year (north east based) and got limited minutes. He took a lot of pride in being part of the team, wearing the swag, etc. He wasn't offered the opportunity to stay and was devastated for a few days, but fortunately joined a lower level team he loves. He quickly became a starter, plays on man up team, and has had a great experience. Knowing that he is a valuable contributor on the team has been great for his self esteem instead of the stress of struggling to hang on each week while he waits for his late growth spurt). He’s still developing and getting better albeit not competing at the highest level (now playing teams ranked 50-110 mostly). He looks back now and not making the team last year was a blessing for him. What the prior poster said rings so true from my sons experience. Think long a hard about what is best for your kid. You have to be real about where your kid is and guide them on what is best. They only get these years once and they go fast. Don’t waste them!

This is a nice post for everyone and I agree. Find what works for you but the first thing you need to decide are what are your expectations: High d1 or high d3? Then you generally need to be on a top club AND get playing time to get recruited by those colleges.

If your expectations are d2 or mid low d3 then you can get recruited from any club team so playing time will matter.

The next step after expectations is does your kids talent meet those expectations? If those are not in alignment you are setting yourself up for a lot of pain and extra money.

My kid played on a top 50 AA club and probably had A- talent but not A+ talent. But he had high academic aspirations and was not going to sacrifice academics for simply the sake of saying he played mid-low D1. So he got into a high academic school that plays in the MCLA and he is perfectly happy. Remember that lax is finite, so don’t make short term decisions with long term consequences. That was his path so yiurs will be different; just be brutally honest about your expectations and your kids talent

enjoyed reading your post. Would you mind saying which MCLA school he went to? Each year, I keep thinking that is probably the right path forward for 90% of players out there.

This forum is getting way too nice, reasonable and respectful! What happened to the [INSERT TEAM NAME] cheats and plays twenty yo against 13 yo. . .

Prices for 23-24 season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son was on a top 20 team last year (north east based) and got limited minutes. He took a lot of pride in being part of the team, wearing the swag, etc. He wasn't offered the opportunity to stay and was devastated for a few days, but fortunately joined a lower level team he loves. He quickly became a starter, plays on man up team, and has had a great experience. Knowing that he is a valuable contributor on the team has been great for his self esteem instead of the stress of struggling to hang on each week while he waits for his late growth spurt). He’s still developing and getting better albeit not competing at the highest level (now playing teams ranked 50-110 mostly). He looks back now and not making the team last year was a blessing for him. What the prior poster said rings so true from my sons experience. Think long a hard about what is best for your kid. You have to be real about where your kid is and guide them on what is best. They only get these years once and they go fast. Don’t waste them!

This is a nice post for everyone and I agree. Find what works for you but the first thing you need to decide are what are your expectations: High d1 or high d3? Then you generally need to be on a top club AND get playing time to get recruited by those colleges.

If your expectations are d2 or mid low d3 then you can get recruited from any club team so playing time will matter.

The next step after expectations is does your kids talent meet those expectations? If those are not in alignment you are setting yourself up for a lot of pain and extra money.

My kid played on a top 50 AA club and probably had A- talent but not A+ talent. But he had high academic aspirations and was not going to sacrifice academics for simply the sake of saying he played mid-low D1. So he got into a high academic school that plays in the MCLA and he is perfectly happy. Remember that lax is finite, so don’t make short term decisions with long term consequences. That was his path so yiurs will be different; just be brutally honest about your expectations and your kids talent

enjoyed reading your post. Would you mind saying which MCLA school he went to? Each year, I keep thinking that is probably the right path forward for 90% of players out there.

This forum is getting way too nice, reasonable and respectful! What happened to the [INSERT TEAM NAME] cheats and plays twenty yo against 13 yo. . .

Haha. Not gonna lie. I like it on the rare occasion that manners but I also like the turd slinging as well as its brain candy. He went to Georgia tech. MCLA is perfect for those kids no PLL bound as it’s not as grueling and stressful. Downside is it’s not cheap and you don’t get to say you played D1 lax (tongue in cheek on that one)

anyone except an offer on express 50 man roster

A Lumberjack did

Venom making some changes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom making some changes

Adding or subtracting?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone except an offer on express 50 man roster

After a successful season for Express to do this shows what is important to them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone except an offer on express 50 man roster

After a successful season for Express to do this shows what is important to them.

Buyer Beware. Shame on you for going to Express where only the top 12 play. Have fun on the bench

Playing time vs coaching. Son sees minimal minutes on a TOP team, but the benefit is great coaching/competition. At what point do you say, “is this worth it?” How do we know when it’s time for a change? Need a little guidance. TY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing time vs coaching. Son sees minimal minutes on a TOP team, but the benefit is great coaching/competition. At what point do you say, “is this worth it?” How do we know when it’s time for a change? Need a little guidance. TY

Really you talking about Express.

Trouble in Rebel land …..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are pathetic.
They made it to the semifinals.
They are one of the best on age teams in the country.
The funny part is that both of you I quoted most likely have children not good enough to play for them. So you come on here and throw punches while hiding behind a computer. Sad

How did they do last weekend?

They shut down their season after the World Series. The kids know why, the parents don't seem too or don't want to admit it.

They are a great team.

Decision was made not to play- right or wrong good or bad. They would have been fine at NLF and would have had good a shot at any to win. See everyone who thinks venom stinks at tryouts tomorrow.

Personality conflicts

Does it matter?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter?

Yes if you are on that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trouble in Rebel land …..

Sounds like you are worried and trying to cause a problem

Why you mad?

Go worry about teams like the top 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing time vs coaching. Son sees minimal minutes on a TOP team, but the benefit is great coaching/competition. At what point do you say, “is this worth it?” How do we know when it’s time for a change? Need a little guidance. TY

You should be getting both

We’re on 91

Minimal minutes is when you leave.

Express lost LSM and #1 mid fielder to Venom

So besides Venom, which teams got stronger and which teams got weaker?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express lost LSM and #1 mid fielder to Venom

Venom took rebels and express kids
Express took rebels and legacy kids
Legacy took rebels kids

Not sure what happened with rebels, Rush,s2s, igloo
Be the best teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So besides Venom, which teams got stronger and which teams got weaker?

Probably won’t know that until game play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express lost LSM and #1 mid fielder to Venom

Venom took rebels and express kids
Express took rebels and legacy kids
Legacy took rebels kids

Not sure what happened with rebels, Rush,s2s, igloo
Be the best teams

Wow.. You certainly know alot. Are you a player agent or something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express lost LSM and #1 mid fielder to Venom

Venom took rebels and express kids
Express took rebels and legacy kids
Legacy took rebels kids

Not sure what happened with rebels, Rush,s2s, igloo
Be the best teams

Wow.. You certainly know alot. Are you a player agent or something?

You are here for that info aren’t you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express lost LSM and #1 mid fielder to Venom

Hardly LIE best midfielder and that was not their LSM.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express lost LSM and #1 mid fielder to Venom

Hardly LIE best midfielder and that was not their LSM.

The kid is a student and yes they got a student defender from express as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So besides Venom, which teams got stronger and which teams got weaker?

Venom got stronger. Lost no one, took top players

Express same or worse. Lost top players, took players from within org. and legacy players that weren’t getting field time

Legacy same. Lost no top players, took no top players

Haven’t heard any top pick ups for the other clubs but definitely some movement just have to see how it works out for them all

Why would anyone sign up for express just to stand on the sideline with 35 other kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Minimal minutes is when you leave.

Bingo

Someone from the rebels made venom? I’m trying to think of who, but I’m drawing a blank.

35 on a roster is insane, I’m guessing some are hoping for more playing time “next year” and new players are believing what they have been told, every time I’ve watched them I don’t think more than 15 see the field

express' roster is 45, not 35. not kidding

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express lost LSM and #1 mid fielder to Venom

Hardly LIE best midfielder and that was not their LSM.

Other than that totally accurate lol

What did venom increase their roster to 28?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What did venom increase their roster to 28?

Nope

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What did venom increase their roster to 28?

Does it really matter? Maybe go ask a venom parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What did venom increase their roster to 28?

Probably not. Some of their kids left but you never hear about the kids that want to leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

express' roster is 45, not 35. not kidding

Because people have become so accepting of their son not playing in hopes that practice vs better players is better. I have news for you, nothing changes

(45)(6000)=270000

Hows East Coast Elite Organization ?

Please tell me for the sake of the parents sanity that’s 45 is for their a and b team? If that’s for the Chucks…. I hope the organization was transparent with all the parents with the roster size before they paid/committed

Cudos to Express, make that money!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

(45)(6000)=270000

Express is 6K????

I’m happy that some of these parents want their kid to stand on the sideline of a top team, while I get to watch my son on the field. Hopefully they don’t realize how they’re not helping their kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows East Coast Elite Organization ?

They put a decent product on the field. Good coaching. The only reason I wouldn’t choose them is they just play on LI to limit travel costs, which works well for a lot of people. I just prefer to travel for a few reason (a) team trips are part of the experience and the kids love them and (b) playing the same teams each week gets old fast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows East Coast Elite Organization ?

They put a decent product on the field. Good coaching. The only reason I wouldn’t choose them is they just play on LI to limit travel costs, which works well for a lot of people. I just prefer to travel for a few reason (a) team trips are part of the experience and the kids love them and (b) playing the same teams each week gets old fast.

I dont enjoy going away 3,4 weekends in the summer . Hotels , Tolls , Fuel meals and sitvon Sunday evening traffic . JMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows East Coast Elite Organization ?

They put a decent product on the field. Good coaching. The only reason I wouldn’t choose them is they just play on LI to limit travel costs, which works well for a lot of people. I just prefer to travel for a few reason (a) team trips are part of the experience and the kids love them and (b) playing the same teams each week gets old fast.

I dont enjoy going away 3,4 weekends in the summer . Hotels , Tolls , Fuel meals and sitvon Sunday evening traffic . JMO

Two respectful and insightful responses. Long Island has more clubs that any other area. The talent is spread all over. 91 and Express definitely have the deepest rosters. Find a spot that works for your family. Express and 91 also travel more than others however, Igloo, Legacy, Rush and Rebels also have a handful of away tournaments each year. Playing time is the most important factor followed by coaching, cost and overall club culture. If your kid is playing most of the time and has improved each year then you most likely should stay put. The level of competition must also be a consideration. There are 5 or 6 teams that play at the highest level for the most part. It is about the experience for your child and family. There is no perfect scenario only what works for your kid. If he has a smile on his face and is improving then you are in a good spot. Best of luck finding the right club. Bottom line is they are all Big Time Businesses!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows East Coast Elite Organization ?

They put a decent product on the field. Good coaching. The only reason I wouldn’t choose them is they just play on LI to limit travel costs, which works well for a lot of people. I just prefer to travel for a few reason (a) team trips are part of the experience and the kids love them and (b) playing the same teams each week gets old fast.

I dont enjoy going away 3,4 weekends in the summer . Hotels , Tolls , Fuel meals and sitvon Sunday evening traffic . JMO

Two respectful and insightful responses. Long Island has more clubs that any other area. The talent is spread all over. 91 and Express definitely have the deepest rosters. Find a spot that works for your family. Express and 91 also travel more than others however, Igloo, Legacy, Rush and Rebels also have a handful of away tournaments each year. Playing time is the most important factor followed by coaching, cost and overall club culture. If your kid is playing most of the time and has improved each year then you most likely should stay put. The level of competition must also be a consideration. There are 5 or 6 teams that play at the highest level for the most part. It is about the experience for your child and family. There is no perfect scenario only what works for your kid. If he has a smile on his face and is improving then you are in a good spot. Best of luck finding the right club. Bottom line is they are all Big Time Businesses!

The smile is super important!!
Also worth noting before high school there is limited benefit to traveling. If your son is interested in playing college lacrosse it will become more important to travel to where the coaches are. I am not from LI but I really like the East Coast Elite model. My 2026 son team played them this summer. They had some really good players including 2 solid goalies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows East Coast Elite Organization ?

They put a decent product on the field. Good coaching. The only reason I wouldn’t choose them is they just play on LI to limit travel costs, which works well for a lot of people. I just prefer to travel for a few reason (a) team trips are part of the experience and the kids love them and (b) playing the same teams each week gets old fast.

I dont enjoy going away 3,4 weekends in the summer . Hotels , Tolls , Fuel meals and sitvon Sunday evening traffic . JMO

Two respectful and insightful responses. Long Island has more clubs that any other area. The talent is spread all over. 91 and Express definitely have the deepest rosters. Find a spot that works for your family. Express and 91 also travel more than others however, Igloo, Legacy, Rush and Rebels also have a handful of away tournaments each year. Playing time is the most important factor followed by coaching, cost and overall club culture. If your kid is playing most of the time and has improved each year then you most likely should stay put. The level of competition must also be a consideration. There are 5 or 6 teams that play at the highest level for the most part. It is about the experience for your child and family. There is no perfect scenario only what works for your kid. If he has a smile on his face and is improving then you are in a good spot. Best of luck finding the right club. Bottom line is they are all Big Time Businesses!

The smile is super important!!
Also worth noting before high school there is limited benefit to traveling. If your son is interested in playing college lacrosse it will become more important to travel to where the coaches are. I am not from LI but I really like the East Coast Elite model. My 2026 son team played them this summer. They had some really good players including 2 solid goalies.

They might have the ideal model if tweeted. Don’t travel until HS years, or limited travel to like one Yale or Jersey tourneys.

Legacy took a hit this year, lost a couple of starters to express. A lot of kids bailed on the Rebels too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy took a hit this year, lost a couple of starters to express. A lot of kids bailed on the Rebels too.

Kids bailed on express too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy took a hit this year, lost a couple of starters to express. A lot of kids bailed on the Rebels too.

Kids bailed on express too

I DON'T BLAME THEM, 45 KIDS IS RIDICULOUS. PARENTS HAVE TO LEARN SOONER THAN LATER.

Heard S2S best midfielder to venom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard S2S best midfielder to venom.

That roster just keeps growing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard S2S best midfielder to venom.

That roster just keeps growing

They lost a bunch.

The

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard S2S best midfielder to venom.

That roster just keeps growing

They lost a bunch.

A few went to Surge

Fake News. None went to Surge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fake News. None went to Surge

Far from fake! Must be shaking over there at S2S.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fake News. None went to Surge

Are you sure about that

Venom kids also left for other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy took a hit this year, lost a couple of starters to express. A lot of kids bailed on the Rebels too.

No starters from legacy are gone

D and an attackman/middie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D and an attackman/middie

What are you referring to?

Express lost quality not quantity.

Who legacy lost

Venom added a couple (lost a few) - stayed as top LI Team. No major upgrades or losses.
Express- lost 2 top kids, added a few- downgrade
Legacy- lost a few, added a few- stay same or downgrade
Rush- added a few - slight upgrade
Rebels- lost a handful of starters, added some but not sure what or who- same or downgrade
S2S- took a hit supposedly- some to Rebels most likely w the coach Isaac moving.
Igloo- stays same and solid
BTB- added a few- upgrade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom added a couple (lost a few) - stayed as top LI Team. No major upgrades or losses.
Express- lost 2 top kids, added a few- downgrade
Legacy- lost a few, added a few- stay same or downgrade
Rush- added a few - slight upgrade
Rebels- lost a handful of starters, added some but not sure what or who- same or downgrade
S2S- took a hit supposedly- some to Rebels most likely w the coach Isaac moving.
Igloo- stays same and solid
BTB- added a few- upgrade

Lol, there is no way anybody could possible know all of this.

It’s a good effort but def not in tune with reality. S2S def upgraded, they will place behind Venom and Express next season. The rest are all in the same bucket. Igloo is bad, solid is the wrong word.

Venom
Express

Shore
Legacy
GC Rams

Rush
Surge
Rebels
Igloo
BTB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom added a couple (lost a few) - stayed as top LI Team. No major upgrades or losses.
Express- lost 2 top kids, added a few- downgrade
Legacy- lost a few, added a few- stay same or downgrade
Rush- added a few - slight upgrade
Rebels- lost a handful of starters, added some but not sure what or who- same or downgrade
S2S- took a hit supposedly- some to Rebels most likely w the coach Isaac moving.
Igloo- stays same and solid
BTB- added a few- upgrade

Lol, there is no way anybody could possible know all of this.

Pretty accurate! From what I heard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a good effort but def not in tune with reality. S2S def upgraded, they will place behind Venom and Express next season. The rest are all in the same bucket. Igloo is bad, solid is the wrong word.

Venom
Express

Shore
Legacy
GC Rams

Rush
Surge
Rebels
Igloo
BTB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s a good effort but def not in tune with reality. S2S def upgraded, they will place behind Venom and Express next season. The rest are all in the same bucket. Igloo is bad, solid is the wrong word.

Venom
Express

Shore
Legacy
GC Rams

Rush
Surge
Rebels
Igloo
BTB

Alright their shore director! Must be getting nervous with all you kids leaving.

GC Rams lol

You’ll find out in 3 years who won the offseason.

S2S has been close for a while. Son competed against them several times. They always seemed to be missing just a few key components to truly be considered an upper crust team. For their sake I hope they get there. Only makes the competition on LI that much better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom added a couple (lost a few) - stayed as top LI Team. No major upgrades or losses.
Express- lost 2 top kids, added a few- downgrade
Legacy- lost a few, added a few- stay same or downgrade
Rush- added a few - slight upgrade
Rebels- lost a handful of starters, added some but not sure what or who- same or downgrade
S2S- took a hit supposedly- some to Rebels most likely w the coach Isaac moving.
Igloo- stays same and solid
BTB- added a few- upgrade

Lol, there is no way anybody could possible know all of this.

Pretty accurate! From what I heard.

Off the mark from what I’m hearing

Seems like a vailed attempt to disrespect someone or several. Made me chuckle though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

S2S has been close for a while. Son competed against them several times. They always seemed to be missing just a few key components to truly be considered an upper crust team. For their sake I hope they get there. Only makes the competition on LI that much better.

Riiiiight

Many teams are missing a few key components

f you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em
Reclassing is alive and well on the island

Yup! Heard a 27 goalie reclassing to 28!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’ll find out in 3 years who won the offseason.

Alright Sonny Jim, you got a one week ban. This not the forum for reasonable well measured take. SMH … this guy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup! Heard a 27 goalie reclassing to 28!

1 kid?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup! Heard a 27 goalie reclassing to 28!

Not the only team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’ll find out in 3 years who won the offseason.

That’s if kids stop moving so much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’ll find out in 3 years who won the offseason.

That’s if kids stop moving so much

Point being todays student player won’t necessarily be tomorrow’s.

Kids move each year at every age group. Seems 91 may have imp Slightly. Express took a big hit and step backwards. The others all added and lost a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’ll find out in 3 years who won the offseason.

That’s if kids stop moving so much

Point being todays student player won’t necessarily be tomorrow’s.

I know everyone keeps saying that and yes some kids will grow, develop, surprise. But the best kids today are still going to be very good in 3-4 years.

How were rebel tryouts this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How were rebel tryouts this weekend?

If they were supplemental then I suspect are they just looking for players to fill B teams. Seemingly like every other supplemental.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’ll find out in 3 years who won the offseason.

That’s if kids stop moving so much

Point being todays student player won’t necessarily be tomorrow’s.

I know everyone keeps saying that and yes some kids will grow, develop, surprise. But the best kids today are still going to be very good in 3-4 years.

So everyone is wrong.

Any word on the CT / Westchester teams?

2 Way- always solid and should get better as we get closer to HS as this team feeds Brunswick.
Express North- Have to imagine that being World Series Champs helped them at tryouts / made it hard for their best players to leave.
Eclipse- Always good but seemed to fall off a bit towards the end of the year.
Primetime- Definitely got better towards the end of the year.
Preds- Only know they have a bunch of reclass kids and still didn't do very well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the CT / Westchester teams?

2 Way- always solid and should get better as we get closer to HS as this team feeds Brunswick.
Express North- Have to imagine that being World Series Champs helped them at tryouts / made it hard for their best players to leave.
Eclipse- Always good but seemed to fall off a bit towards the end of the year.
Primetime- Definitely got better towards the end of the year.
Preds- Only know they have a bunch of reclass kids and still didn't do very well.

Preds had reclasses last year? Yikes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the CT / Westchester teams?

2 Way- always solid and should get better as we get closer to HS as this team feeds Brunswick.
Express North- Have to imagine that being World Series Champs helped them at tryouts / made it hard for their best players to leave.
Eclipse- Always good but seemed to fall off a bit towards the end of the year.
Primetime- Definitely got better towards the end of the year.
Preds- Only know they have a bunch of reclass kids and still didn't do very well.

Preds had reclasses last year? Yikes.

Heard Eclipse will be loaded. Apparently there are a bunch of New Canaan 27’s reclassing this year (heard 8 of them but that feels like a stretch).

I’m sure 2Way and Express North will be good as well. Not sure on the others. PT seems to have fallen but who knows.

More cheaters, fantastic!

Only chance our kids will have if we all go to True Lacrosse! They will save the island!!!

Yo, don’t call Surge fake!
Top notch coaches
Awesome culture
Nothing like the rest of those teams

Not sure what this stems from as I didn't see a negative post about Surge, but second the coaching statement. If the Hills Varsity coach stays involved they will get better. He is an excellent coach, knows the games and knows how to teach it to the players. The culture is improving, has been suspect at times, but is better after a few left the team. They can really make a push this season and will hurdle Igloo, Rebels and Legacy. They will have a tough go with S2S as they improved drastically. Def a team to watch, def a place you want your child.

Thanks 91 surge cheerleader

I know they were looking for one more middy, otherwise they'll pretty good.

Venom has 11 midis borrow one from them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yo, don’t call Surge fake!
Top notch coaches
Awesome culture
Nothing like the rest of those teams

What changed?

It’s a great day to be a Outlaw!

Nobody put Surgy in a corner

Teams that played the most tournaments last season: Express, Surge, and Frost

How did Frost do this offseason? Did they reduce that roster size?

One of the Surge coaches does a great job trying to poach kids from other programs. Shows up at other clubs' tryouts, friend request these kids on Instagram.
His name is Mud in the area from other clubs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One of the Surge coaches does a great job trying to poach kids from other programs. Shows up at other clubs' tryouts, friend request these kids on Instagram.
His name is Mud in the area from other clubs

That’s all fine and well but who actually goes???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Frost do this offseason? Did they reduce that roster size?

I heard about 5-6 of frost kids got moved up to Northman.

It's sad that these parents want to be on an AA team but their kid doesn't play much. So instead of going to a team like Frost or Surge or Dune Dawgs or somewhere where they'll play a ton and be one of the best kids on the team, they choose to stay and not play. They think they're above a second team of an organization but what they're doing is a disservice to their son. Maybe these parents enjoy watching other kids play instead of their own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what this stems from as I didn't see a negative post about Surge, but second the coaching statement. If the Hills Varsity coach stays involved they will get better. He is an excellent coach, knows the games and knows how to teach it to the players. The culture is improving, has been suspect at times, but is better after a few left the team. They can really make a push this season and will hurdle Igloo, Rebels and Legacy. They will have a tough go with S2S as they improved drastically. Def a team to watch, def a place you want your child.

Interesting comment on culture getting better after a few kids left the team

Who sets the culture of the team a few kids or the coaching staff

Remember the fish stinks from the head down literally

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what this stems from as I didn't see a negative post about Surge, but second the coaching statement. If the Hills Varsity coach stays involved they will get better. He is an excellent coach, knows the games and knows how to teach it to the players. The culture is improving, has been suspect at times, but is better after a few left the team. They can really make a push this season and will hurdle Igloo, Rebels and Legacy. They will have a tough go with S2S as they improved drastically. Def a team to watch, def a place you want your child.

Interesting comment on culture getting better after a few kids left the team

Who sets the culture of the team a few kids or the coaching staff

Remember the fish stinks from the head down literally

Just ask the rebels after "the mom" and her son left the team for venom. One bad apple could it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what this stems from as I didn't see a negative post about Surge, but second the coaching statement. If the Hills Varsity coach stays involved they will get better. He is an excellent coach, knows the games and knows how to teach it to the players. The culture is improving, has been suspect at times, but is better after a few left the team. They can really make a push this season and will hurdle Igloo, Rebels and Legacy. They will have a tough go with S2S as they improved drastically. Def a team to watch, def a place you want your child.

Interesting comment on culture getting better after a few kids left the team

Who sets the culture of the team a few kids or the coaching staff

Remember the fish stinks from the head down literally

Just ask the rebels after "the mom" and her son left the team for venom. One bad apple could it

Express problem now...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what this stems from as I didn't see a negative post about Surge, but second the coaching statement. If the Hills Varsity coach stays involved they will get better. He is an excellent coach, knows the games and knows how to teach it to the players. The culture is improving, has been suspect at times, but is better after a few left the team. They can really make a push this season and will hurdle Igloo, Rebels and Legacy. They will have a tough go with S2S as they improved drastically. Def a team to watch, def a place you want your child.

Interesting comment on culture getting better after a few kids left the team

Who sets the culture of the team a few kids or the coaching staff

Remember the fish stinks from the head down literally

Just ask the rebels after "the mom" and her son left the team for venom. One bad apple could it

Express problem now...

Venom has their own culture problems to deal with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what this stems from as I didn't see a negative post about Surge, but second the coaching statement. If the Hills Varsity coach stays involved they will get better. He is an excellent coach, knows the games and knows how to teach it to the players. The culture is improving, has been suspect at times, but is better after a few left the team. They can really make a push this season and will hurdle Igloo, Rebels and Legacy. They will have a tough go with S2S as they improved drastically. Def a team to watch, def a place you want your child.

Interesting comment on culture getting better after a few kids left the team

Who sets the culture of the team a few kids or the coaching staff

Remember the fish stinks from the head down literally

Just ask the rebels after "the mom" and her son left the team for venom. One bad apple could it

Express problem now...

Venom has their own culture problems to deal with.

Every team, say it with me, every team has a parent or few that we all cringe about.
This is not interesting or insightful.
Maybe take it up with them in person.

Good try SM, “nightmare Rebels Mom” who fights with every opposing team and ref- how’s that B team working out for your son?!!

Rebels lost a lot this season ..... Won't crack the top 150 club team next season.

Where did they all go?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good try SM, “nightmare Rebels Mom” who fights with every opposing team and ref- how’s that B team working out for your son?!!

If this is a man commenting, you are the biggest P
If this is a catty women go say it to them directly
Feel sorry for your kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Good try SM, “nightmare Rebels Mom” who fights with every opposing team and ref- how’s that B team working out for your son?!!

For people to be this unhinged around a summer travel season for their kid is pretty much everything that is wrong with this whole system / process. Teamwork and sportsmanship have been tossed aside for the ME FIRST crew and if you’re not on board, you are an impediment that is easily cast aside to be talked about in their catty circles. You must be so proud.

Heard 2028 Frost is looking for another goalie if anyone looking for a home contact Igloo

Where did the goalie go?

Frost goalie moved up to Northmen

For what it’s worth the mom in question is way out of control and an embarrassment to us normal Rebels parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom kids also left for other teams.

Looking ahead to the Fall, who is playing in the Columbus Day Invitational? Any of these teams:

Legacy
91 Venom
2-Way
Eclipse
LI Ex Chucks
Rebels

Can’t find any previous years’ results

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels lost a lot this season ..... Won't crack the top 150 club team next season.

Rebels will be just fine

Where did igloo northmen goalie go?

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Venom kids also left for other teams.

Looking ahead to the Fall, who is playing in the Columbus Day Invitational? Any of these teams:

Legacy
91 Venom
2-Way
Eclipse
LI Ex Chucks
Rebels

Can’t find any previous years’ results

Pretty sure Legacy and 2Way are there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

I’m all for my son getting lots of practice in for travel lacrosse, but I also love having August to be for family time.

Practice in August after a long season? No thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

I’m impressed and all for getting started but the august break is welcomed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

Seems like no one left and they added 8-10 guys.

Are we talking about BTB Red?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

Seems like no one left and they added 8-10 guys.

That would make for a large roster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

Seems like no one left and they added 8-10 guys.

So you’re saying they have 26-30 players on the roster?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

Ya not too bad for a group that started w only 2028 in middle of last year. Program is run well and coach does a great job. So yes, they have enough for a team and could have had 2 at this age group.

Any truth to an Express top kid moving to Rebels? Rumor, he left to go play up w his brother. Lost a couple to Venom and 2 Way i have heard. Express will reload as always and I think there 50 man roster for 2 teams may work out. Make kids compete each day and earn their spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

Ya not too bad for a group that started w only 2028 in middle of last year. Program is run well and coach does a great job. So yes, they have enough for a team and could have had 2 at this age group.

You are saying they don’t have a second team? They had a 2028 Black and Red last year. Now there’s only a Black team? Sounds like they are going backwards.

The kids on the sideline of these teams are wasting a year of playing. Find a team where you're on the field playing a boatload of minutes

Nice to see everyone has a place to play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Practice in August after a long season? No thanks!

What beats practice in the dog days of summer? T-minus 3 months to tournaments

BTB lost an entire team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to an Express top kid moving to Rebels? Rumor, he left to go play up w his brother. Lost a couple to Venom and 2 Way i have heard. Express will reload as always and I think there 50 man roster for 2 teams may work out. Make kids compete each day and earn their spot.

Top kids went to venom. About 3 or 4 of them

Next tier may have went to other teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

Ya not too bad for a group that started w only 2028 in middle of last year. Program is run well and coach does a great job. So yes, they have enough for a team and could have had 2 at this age group.

You are saying they don’t have a second team? They had a 2028 Black and Red last year. Now there’s only a Black team? Sounds like they are going backwards.

That’s a good thing in my view you don’t need a second team just for money. Clubs need to focus on each team in each age group.

Doubtful express has 50 man roster. The bigger problem will be if they can’t field two teams, the better players are going to have to play with the kids that are considered B players. That’s going to cause issues for some of the players that think they are A players. Imo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to an Express top kid moving to Rebels? Rumor, he left to go play up w his brother. Lost a couple to Venom and 2 Way i have heard. Express will reload as always and I think there 50 man roster for 2 teams may work out. Make kids compete each day and earn their spot.

Whoopdeedoo go post about it on the 2027 board

So basically ....

You got the snakes on top

Legacy, Rush, BTB, S2S and Express

Surge, Rebels and Turtles

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be the best already practicing!! Not wasting any time

They have enough players to field a team?

Ya not too bad for a group that started w only 2028 in middle of last year. Program is run well and coach does a great job. So yes, they have enough for a team and could have had 2 at this age group.

You are saying they don’t have a second team? They had a 2028 Black and Red last year. Now there’s only a Black team? Sounds like they are going backwards.

That’s a good thing in my view you don’t need a second team just for money. Clubs need to focus on each team in each age group.

It’s a good thing they lost 25 players. Hmmm I don’t think so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically ....

You got the snakes on top

Legacy, Rush, BTB, S2S and Express

Surge, Rebels and Turtles

Turtles? Did you miss over a year of travel lacrosse? 2028 turtles ?

Igloo has fallen so far they don’t even make the list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically ....

You got the snakes on top

Legacy, Rush, BTB, S2S and Express

Surge, Rebels and Turtles

Terrible take

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically ....

You got the snakes on top

Legacy, Rush, BTB, S2S and Express

Surge, Rebels and Turtles

Terrible take

Give us your rankings

You can put igloo with Surge and Turtles

What are some tuition cost this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically ....

You got the snakes on top

Legacy, Rush, BTB, S2S and Express

Surge, Rebels and Turtles

Terrible take

Give us your rankings

Who cares what these clowns think? Let the games decide how the teams rank. So, who is playing where and when this fall so we can know for certain?
Atlantic Elite
Columbus Day
NAL

??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically ....

You got the snakes on top

Legacy, Rush, BTB, S2S and Express

Surge, Rebels and Turtles

Terrible take

Give us your rankings

Who cares what these clowns think? Let the games decide how the teams rank. So, who is playing where and when this fall so we can know for certain?
Atlantic Elite
Columbus Day
NAL

??

Ok you start…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo has fallen so far they don’t even make the list?

Nah that was just that clown’s attempt at taking a jab at one of those clubs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are some tuition cost this year?

Way too much for what you get!!

I WOULD ASSUME MOST CLUBS ARE OVER 4G

I’m almost certain 3 on that list are under 4K

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo has fallen so far they don’t even make the list?

Nah that was just that clown’s attempt at taking a jab at one of those clubs

Seems like someone’s feelings got hurt.

Believe it or not, at one point in 2nd grade, igloo had some of 2the best talent on the island. Then it all fell apart, seems like a recurring theme with their younger teams.

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

In this day and age nobody cares about team dynamic. Players come in for all over and are suddenly starters in today's club scene. At least for top teams. B teams and lower tier A teams, have much better environments imho.

Legacy directors please stop mentioning NAL. If you invited best teams, at all ages, some of yours would be out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Where did better pole come from?

Where did the Venom kids go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

“Wow, Remember when the boys were in 8th grade and the 2 LI teams played each other?”said noone, ever. Your sidelines must be so fun - filled with paranoid parents critiquing and criticizing everyone else’s kids. Are Express really running 50 out there for 2 teams? Will lineups be set or fluid? Do people know which team they are on, or is that how they get 50 - by dangling the elusive spot on Chucks each week. “Getting on the field won’t happen but Joey can be proud to watch the boys who do play and jump on them at the end.”
LIE for life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did the Venom kids go?

GOALIE WENT TO EXPRESS AND MIDDY WILL SIT ON THE SIDELINE AT EXPRESS. PARENTS HAVE TO SWALLOW THEIR PRIDE AND EGO'S AND PUT THE KIDS ON TEAMS WHERE THEY WILL MAKE AN IMPACT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

Where did fogo go and who is replacing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

Where did fogo go and who is replacing?

2way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

I didn't realize Adam Schefter was on these boards, 2028 lacrosse insider extraordinaire

If you need pre puberty player rankings this is the place to be. A lot of experts here!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

How long before parents get upset about playing time on Venom and Express? Buyer beware. As long as you have varsity coaches coaching your sons team, all is good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

The Fact they wrote "Venom got a better pole from rebels" tells you all you need to know about this parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

Curious, what school are you referring to?

Massapequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

The Fact they wrote "Venom got a better pole from rebels" tells you all you need to know about this parent.

Tells me they think one of the poles from rebels was better than the other

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

Appears so

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

If the 2 best teams took those 2 poles….you do the math genius

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't realize Adam Schefter was on these boards, 2028 lacrosse insider extraordinaire

You’re welcome. Come back for more!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa

No no my friend. Not Massapequa. Its a 631 town that has not won a thing in many years. Once were a proud lacrosse community.Now we own our neighbors just to our West. Perhaps if they combine again they may have a chance at a county title. Spent some time with some of these parents a few years ago and it is quite obvious who is behind these posts about who is going where. 91 definitely is the top team on the Island at this age and every club has some fool parents. However, the ones who come on here and berate kids or boast about who is good and going where are pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa

No no my friend. Not Massapequa. Its a 631 town that has not won a thing in many years. Once were a proud lacrosse community.Now we own our neighbors just to our West. Perhaps if they combine again they may have a chance at a county title. Spent some time with some of these parents a few years ago and it is quite obvious who is behind these posts about who is going where. 91 definitely is the top team on the Island at this age and every club has some fool parents. However, the ones who come on here and berate kids or boast about who is good and going where are pathetic.

Mt. Sinai?

Smithtown

Why is it bad to say who went where?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

Why whenever someone is not anti venom it has to be a venom parent? Just stating facts is all. I’m not from any of the towns mentioned. Parents and kids talk and this board gets it right now and then. It’s not rocket science ya’ll

Rebels pole to 91 is solid, little out of control, tries for the fancy stuff when it’s not necessary. Express picked up 2 really solid kids from Legacy. One is a D, one is a A/M, didn’t get fair shake at Legacy IMO. 3rd kid they picked up is ok, not great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels pole to 91 is solid, little out of control, tries for the fancy stuff when it’s not necessary. Express picked up 2 really solid kids from Legacy. One is a D, one is a A/M, didn’t get fair shake at Legacy IMO. 3rd kid they picked up is ok, not great.

Another poor take

Shore looks good. Some very solid pickups. They will compete against Venom and Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore looks good. Some very solid pickups. They will compete against Venom and Express.

Didn't shore lose their big attackman?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore looks good. Some very solid pickups. They will compete against Venom and Express.

Didn't shore lose their big attackman?

Shore definitely won’t compete against Venom.

Every team will compete with express it sounds like.

Quit trying to put shore in that next tier. They don’t have the coaching.

Shore has very good coaching. Lost big attack to Surge. Def will give Express a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore looks good. Some very solid pickups. They will compete against Venom and Express.

Didn't shore lose their big attackman?

Didn’t they lose their best middie as well

Feel free to correct me, oh wise one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels pole to 91 is solid, little out of control, tries for the fancy stuff when it’s not necessary. Express picked up 2 really solid kids from Legacy. One is a D, one is a A/M, didn’t get fair shake at Legacy IMO. 3rd kid they picked up is ok, not great.

Another poor take

The A/M is a student…did not get treated right. Don’t know much about the other 2.

Shore is good. Didn’t lose much. Will be very strong and well coached team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels pole to 91 is solid, little out of control, tries for the fancy stuff when it’s not necessary. Express picked up 2 really solid kids from Legacy. One is a D, one is a A/M, didn’t get fair shake at Legacy IMO. 3rd kid they picked up is ok, not great.

Another poor take

The A/M is a student…did not get treated right. Don’t know much about the other 2.

Ok dad

Was reminded today why Express is the worst organization of them all

Because they accept 50 people to a AA team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was reminded today why Express is the worst organization of them all

??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

From down in MD— have played all of these teams other than Shore. You guys have one very elite team on LI— 91 Venom. Legacy, Rebels, LIE Chucks… they’re not in Venom’s league, period. Express North and 2-Way are right there with Venom, 3 of the top real teams in the country (leaving out the “National” teams).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

From down in MD— have played all of these teams other than Shore. You guys have one very elite team on LI— 91 Venom. Legacy, Rebels, LIE Chucks… they’re not in Venom’s league, period. Express North and 2-Way are right there with Venom, 3 of the top real teams in the country (leaving out the “National” teams).

From down in holdback/reclass land. Thanks for the input. Seriously, get a grip on reality. Take any single one of your Maryland 2029 teams and have them play a 2028 team team from Long Island. See how it works out for ya. That is literally the only way to compare them. So naive and ignorant it’s laughable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was reminded today why Express is the worst organization of them all

??

I wasn’t there but I was told that they showed up to a memorial town 7v7 tournament and acted/played in a way that was not very appropriate. My friend said the coach was arrogant and even the parents were embarrassed as to why they were here playing against middle school town teams at a memorial tournament. I’d love for an express parent that was there to comment on the situation.

Mattituck parent here, my son played express yesterday. I was appalled by the kid’s behavior and the way they played and taunted our team. We’re on the younger side at this middle school tournament and they had a kid yelling and trying to intimidate our players. Their goalie was out of control, hitting kids and trying to score on most possessions. Just total poor sportsmanship at a memorial tournament. Their coach was a jack wagon who supported this behavior. Those parents should be ashamed of themselves. Total classless organization

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore has very good coaching. Lost big attack to Surge. Def will give Express a game.

The last time I saw Shore play was between games at the PT tourney and they were losing 12-0 to Express North. Needless to say the team I saw that day has no shot at competing with Express or Venom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

From down in MD— have played all of these teams other than Shore. You guys have one very elite team on LI— 91 Venom. Legacy, Rebels, LIE Chucks… they’re not in Venom’s league, period. Express North and 2-Way are right there with Venom, 3 of the top real teams in the country (leaving out the “National” teams).

Agree 91 venom is the Top team on LI.

But your teams are FAKE. Can’t compare 12-13 yr olds to 14-15yr olds. So bye.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

From down in MD— have played all of these teams other than Shore. You guys have one very elite team on LI— 91 Venom. Legacy, Rebels, LIE Chucks… they’re not in Venom’s league, period. Express North and 2-Way are right there with Venom, 3 of the top real teams in the country (leaving out the “National” teams).

From down in holdback/reclass land. Thanks for the input. Seriously, get a grip on reality. Take any single one of your Maryland 2029 teams and have them play a 2028 team team from Long Island. See how it works out for ya. That is literally the only way to compare them. So naive and ignorant it’s laughable.

Keep telling yourself that. Of the 23 kids in our team, 3-4 were held back Pre-K, and we have one who was “reclassed.” Period. And we consistently pound Legacy and Chucks. Have literally never lost to them. Venom is great. The rest— not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

From down in MD— have played all of these teams other than Shore. You guys have one very elite team on LI— 91 Venom. Legacy, Rebels, LIE Chucks… they’re not in Venom’s league, period. Express North and 2-Way are right there with Venom, 3 of the top real teams in the country (leaving out the “National” teams).

Agree 91 venom is the Top team on LI.

But your teams are FAKE. Can’t compare 12-13 yr olds to 14-15yr olds. So bye.

Love when our high school team come up there and wear out your boys. See: St John’s. I think it was 16-5?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regarding the Express rumor….”top kid going to Rebels to play with brother” is 100% false…yes a kid left for Rebels but he never saw the field on Chucks which is why he left-good move. Regarding top players going to Venom-1 good defender but Chucks replaced with an even better pole so no loss….the two attackers that went to venom were averaging 0-1 goals PER TOURNAMENT so no loss there either. Chucks picked up 2 Venom players and a few Lumberjacks so it will be interesting to see a Chucks/Venom match up this fall after all the dust settles.

Chucks picked up 2 PIA/obnoxious parents so will see if that changes the dynamic of the team at all!

Venom picked up 3 TOP players from the chucks. You can’t deny that or you are proving yourself to be foolish.
Chucks got a great pole from rebels but venom got a better pole from rebels.
Venom didn’t lose any TOP players.
Chucks didn’t get any TOP players from lumberjax.
Venom seems loaded. Chucks took a hit, even losing a real good Faceoff kid. Time will tell!

So Rebels had 2 of the best poles around? Wow. I am guessing this (Venom) parent knows an awful lot about all these kids. Makes you wonder who is behind this all knowing post??? Even knows a LITTLE bit about Lumberjax....mmmm. Perhaps from a once proud lacrosse town that has really just become mediocre at best. No bs.

The Pole that went to Venom came off the bench. So I call bs. The pole that went to Express was best pole on Rebels.

Come on Man. Rebels bench defender moves to Venom? The parent with all the information obviously a 91 parent. If we believe all this then Venom improved big time and Express, Legacy and Rebels all took big hits.

From down in MD— have played all of these teams other than Shore. You guys have one very elite team on LI— 91 Venom. Legacy, Rebels, LIE Chucks… they’re not in Venom’s league, period. Express North and 2-Way are right there with Venom, 3 of the top real teams in the country (leaving out the “National” teams).

From down in holdback/reclass land. Thanks for the input. Seriously, get a grip on reality. Take any single one of your Maryland 2029 teams and have them play a 2028 team team from Long Island. See how it works out for ya. That is literally the only way to compare them. So naive and ignorant it’s laughable.

Wow such an inferiority complex. And yes, that’s exactly what it is, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. And I’d be willing to bet those 4-5 holdback kids on Venom are older than ours.

Super important to be on the best team. Everyone knows the first question every college coach asks is what your travel lacrosse winning % is.