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Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey
TM@BOTC #359065 12/03/21 09:00 AM
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Can anyone share their experience if they play lax for SHP? Is it very competitive to make the team?

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Anonymous #359106 12/03/21 02:55 PM
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How? What happened? Did they cut him?

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Can anyone share their experience if they play lax for SHP? Is it very competitive to make the team?

They have Freshmen, JV, Varsity teams. About 30 kids will make each team. About 120 kids will probably try out so depending on the grade you will need to be in the top 75% or so as a frosh or soph.

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Anonymous #359137 12/03/21 11:05 PM
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NAL was extremely embarrassing for NJ lax outside of Leading Edge.

Bluestar, BBL and Riot all struggled.

Outside of Leading Edge? They are still the same old turnover machine as always. And they had a cupcake schedule and still lost.

My goodness… detest LE all you want, but give some credit where its due. They had a good weekend! The NJ clubs all played in different brackets at each age level. No one had a cupcake schedule.

I can’t stand LE because they are liars and you can’t trust them at all. It’s that simple. I had my son play with them for 5 years and they F’d us his junior year.

Sounds like your kid was a bottom 10%er and got cut.

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Anonymous #359146 12/04/21 09:51 AM
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NAL was extremely embarrassing for NJ lax outside of Leading Edge.

Bluestar, BBL and Riot all struggled.

Outside of Leading Edge? They are still the same old turnover machine as always. And they had a cupcake schedule and still lost.

My goodness… detest LE all you want, but give some credit where its due. They had a good weekend! The NJ clubs all played in different brackets at each age level. No one had a cupcake schedule.

I can’t stand LE because they are liars and you can’t trust them at all. It’s that simple. I had my son play with them for 5 years and they F’d us his junior year.

Sounds like your kid was a bottom 10%er and got cut.

Also sounds like you may have been part of the problem. What does that mean, they screwed us his junior year anyway?

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Anonymous #359160 12/04/21 03:57 PM
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Can anyone share their experience if they play lax for SHP? Is it very competitive to make the team?

They have a 2023 commit that was on JV last year, so yes, it is pretty competitive

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Anonymous #359176 12/04/21 11:19 PM
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NAL was extremely embarrassing for NJ lax outside of Leading Edge.

Bluestar, BBL and Riot all struggled.

Outside of Leading Edge? They are still the same old turnover machine as always. And they had a cupcake schedule and still lost.


My goodness… detest LE all you want, but give some credit where its due. They had a good weekend! The NJ clubs all played in different brackets at each age level. No one had a cupcake schedule.

I can’t stand LE because they are liars and you can’t trust them at all. It’s that simple. I had my son play with them for 5 years and they F’d us his junior year.

Sounds like your kid was a bottom 10%er and got cut.

Also sounds like you may have been part of the problem. What does that mean, they screwed us his junior year anyway?

I think this person is on the team now and referring to the present time. Lots of parents frustrated with playing time, 2022’s playing on the team and lack of college offers.

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Anonymous #359250 12/06/21 10:36 AM
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Why would you say Tim Roy would ruin Chatham? He seems like a good coach, although I don’t know him well.

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Why would you say Tim Roy would ruin Chatham? He seems like a good coach, although I don’t know him well.

Whether justified or not, he has definitely rubbed some people the wrong way. Obviously, there are two sides to each LE story, but you have to imagine that some of the negative comments are legitimate, and some just sour grapes. The real question is whether he can succeed without the ability to recruit the players that he wants. The player pool is limited to the borders of Chatham, unlike LE, or schools like Delbarton and SHP, that pull in top players consistently.. That is not meant to be a knock on the Chatham program, just the reality of the situation. Perhaps if he can convince those kids that leave Chatham to go to private schools for lacrosse to stay, that may be a positive.

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Anonymous #359297 12/06/21 02:07 PM
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NAL was extremely embarrassing for NJ lax outside of Leading Edge.

Bluestar, BBL and Riot all struggled.

Outside of Leading Edge? They are still the same old turnover machine as always. And they had a cupcake schedule and still lost.

My goodness… detest LE all you want, but give some credit where its due. They had a good weekend! The NJ clubs all played in different brackets at each age level. No one had a cupcake schedule.

I can’t stand LE because they are liars and you can’t trust them at all. It’s that simple. I had my son play with them for 5 years and they F’d us his junior year.

Sounds like your kid was a bottom 10%er and got cut.

Also sounds like you may have been part of the problem. What does that mean, they screwed us his junior year anyway?

This means that they often will end up cutting the bottom 10% of the team and adding kids that come over from other clubs to improve the roster. It happens with many programs.

So it most likely means your son was a bottom of the roster guy that they felt could be replaced by someone or just better off without having to give your son playing time.

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Anonymous #359299 12/06/21 02:13 PM
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Why would you say Tim Roy would ruin Chatham? He seems like a good coach, although I don’t know him well.

Whether justified or not, he has definitely rubbed some people the wrong way. Obviously, there are two sides to each LE story, but you have to imagine that some of the negative comments are legitimate, and some just sour grapes. The real question is whether he can succeed without the ability to recruit the players that he wants. The player pool is limited to the borders of Chatham, unlike LE, or schools like Delbarton and SHP, that pull in top players consistently.. That is not meant to be a knock on the Chatham program, just the reality of the situation. Perhaps if he can convince those kids that leave Chatham to go to private schools for lacrosse to stay, that may be a positive.

Thats a fair point. A lot of the Chatham success will come from what kids end up staying public. Let's call a spade a spade, the previous coach has had some pretty insane talent while he was there. They won a couple of state titles and a lot of people in town still have not had many great things to say.

If the talent stays in that town, the program would be just fine.

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Anonymous #359315 12/06/21 04:02 PM
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Why would you say Tim Roy would ruin Chatham? He seems like a good coach, although I don’t know him well.

Whether justified or not, he has definitely rubbed some people the wrong way. Obviously, there are two sides to each LE story, but you have to imagine that some of the negative comments are legitimate, and some just sour grapes. The real question is whether he can succeed without the ability to recruit the players that he wants. The player pool is limited to the borders of Chatham, unlike LE, or schools like Delbarton and SHP, that pull in top players consistently.. That is not meant to be a knock on the Chatham program, just the reality of the situation. Perhaps if he can convince those kids that leave Chatham to go to private schools for lacrosse to stay, that may be a positive.

Thats a fair point. A lot of the Chatham success will come from what kids end up staying public. Let's call a spade a spade, the previous coach has had some pretty insane talent while he was there. They won a couple of state titles and a lot of people in town still have not had many great things to say.

If the talent stays in that town, the program would be just fine.

Agreed, schools like Westfield, Summit, ML, Manasquan and RFH do a great job keeping kids public...Chatham could easily be part of the mix

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Anonymous #359488 12/08/21 08:39 AM
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I can’t stand LE because they are liars and you can’t trust them at all. It’s that simple. I had my son play with them for 5 years and they F’d us his junior year.[/quote]

Sounds like your kid was a bottom 10%er and got cut.[/quote]

Also sounds like you may have been part of the problem. What does that mean, they screwed us his junior year anyway?[/quote]

This means that they often will end up cutting the bottom 10% of the team and adding kids that come over from other clubs to improve the roster. It happens with many programs.

So it most likely means your son was a bottom of the roster guy that they felt could be replaced by someone or just better off without having to give your son playing time.[/quote]

Actually, you’re all wrong. He wasn’t cut and was a strong player. Not top 5, but next 5. It was because he chose to play with his HS team in the fall, he was ignored thereafter. No recruiting support.

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Anonymous #359505 12/08/21 10:47 AM
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Would not say Summit, Manasquan, RFH, and Westfield do a great job of keeping kids public compared to Mountain Lakes. If you look at the rosters of schools like Delbarton, SHP, Pingry, Lawrenceville, and even NE prep schools, they are littered with kids from Summit every year. Same applies to Westfield for SHP, St. Peters, and Pingry. Less so with Delbarton and the prep schools. With regard to Squan and RFH, take a look at the rosters at CBA, Red Bank Catholic, Lawrenceville, Hun, etc. Ridgewood, Northern Highlands, and Ramapo are all in the same boat with loads of kids heading to the Bergen County catholic schools.

In Mountain Lakes, it is very very rare to see kids go to private school. Not sure how Flynn has done it but a Mountain Lakes resident going to Delbarton (really the only private school that makes sense geographically/athletically/demographically).

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Anonymous #359514 12/08/21 12:12 PM
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Would not say Summit, Manasquan, RFH, and Westfield do a great job of keeping kids public compared to Mountain Lakes. If you look at the rosters of schools like Delbarton, SHP, Pingry, Lawrenceville, and even NE prep schools, they are littered with kids from Summit every year. Same applies to Westfield for SHP, St. Peters, and Pingry. Less so with Delbarton and the prep schools. With regard to Squan and RFH, take a look at the rosters at CBA, Red Bank Catholic, Lawrenceville, Hun, etc. Ridgewood, Northern Highlands, and Ramapo are all in the same boat with loads of kids heading to the Bergen County catholic schools.

In Mountain Lakes, it is very very rare to see kids go to private school. Not sure how Flynn has done it but a Mountain Lakes resident going to Delbarton (really the only private school that makes sense geographically/athletically/demographically).

Fair point, and I agree that ML probably does the best job at keeping kids local, especially with the many private options nearby. As for schools like Westfield, Ridgewood and Summit, I guess that the talent pool is deep enough to absorb losing kids. Manasquan/RFH are a much different dynamic because the only alternative lacrosse option (other than heading off to prep school) is CBA, but CBA loses out on a lot of players because of the absence of football which keeps a lot of RFH/Manasquan/Wall kids public (no kid goes to RBC for lacrosse).

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