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Posted By: TM@BOTC Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/04/17 09:54 PM
Discuss the top boy's club teams in New Jersey
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/20/17 04:57 PM
Who are the top 2023 teams in Jersey?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/20/17 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the top 2023 teams in Jersey?


Tri-State Shore
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/20/17 10:47 PM
NJ Riot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/21/17 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the top 2023 teams in Jersey?


Tri-State Shore


Didn't they lose a number of players to LeadingEdge Elite?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/21/17 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the top 2023 teams in Jersey?


Tri-State Shore



1) BBL
2) Tri-State Shore
3) Mad Dog
4) Tri-State Black
5) LeadingEdge Elite
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/21/17 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the top 2023 teams in Jersey?


Tri-State Shore


Didn't they lose a number of players to LeadingEdge Elite?



Don't know, PA poster who has played numerous NJ teams and Shore seemed to be the best of the bunch. They had some pretty dominant middies, if they lost one of them then yea it might be a different team. Never seen BBL,

Thought Blue Star showed some promise as well. I would rank them ahead of Mad Dog or Tri-State Black.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/22/17 01:32 AM
New jersey has lacrosse??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/22/17 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New jersey has lacrosse??

Yep, and too many clubs for the number of good players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/24/17 02:12 PM
BBL Helix 2023 & 2024 win the championship at the Blatant Fall Jam! There should be a thread started for BBL Elite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/24/17 03:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBL Helix 2023 & 2024 win the championship at the Blatant Fall Jam! There should be a thread started for BBL Elite.


Slow down your 2023 didn't play Igloo, 91 Warriors or S2s and your 24s played 24/25 teams. Brooklyn Crescents show up at town events and don't win. Not saying it wasn't a good showing but come on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/24/17 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBL Helix 2023 & 2024 win the championship at the Blatant Fall Jam! There should be a thread started for BBL Elite.


Slow down your 2023 didn't play Igloo, 91 Warriors or S2s and your 24s played 24/25 teams. Brooklyn Crescents show up at town events and don't win. Not saying it wasn't a good showing but come on.


We played the teams we had to play and beat everyone by 7+ goals. I think we would match up well against the teams you mentioned.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/24/17 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBL Helix 2023 & 2024 win the championship at the Blatant Fall Jam! There should be a thread started for BBL Elite.


Slow down your 2023 didn't play Igloo, 91 Warriors or S2s and your 24s played 24/25 teams. Brooklyn Crescents show up at town events and don't win. Not saying it wasn't a good showing but come on.


We played the teams we had to play and beat everyone by 7+ goals. I think we would match up well against the teams you mentioned.


Don't make a stupid post about winning a division (Not a Championship) and beating a team that loses to Jackson, NJ rec team 10 - 2. BBL is a good club we get it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/24/17 04:14 PM
You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/25/17 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little crap
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/25/17 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little crap


This is great! We need more people like the mom and you posting on the NJ Forum, it's too quiet when we have probably the 2nd most club teams behind Long Island
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/30/17 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little crap


This is great! We need more people like the mom and you posting on the NJ Forum, it's too quiet when we have probably the 2nd most club teams behind Long Island


How do we get a club in NJ to run a tournament that includes all the NJ teams? Should be enough teams to create an A & B bracket at multiple ages? Kid play each other in the Spring but don't see each much in travel.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/31/17 01:40 AM
Will see BBL and Riot this weekend up in Lehigh @ 2022 will let you know how they are.

BBL is from my experience damn good especially with the FOGO they have.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/31/17 07:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will see BBL and Riot this weekend up in Lehigh @ 2022 will let you know how they are.

BBL is from my experience damn good especially with the FOGO they have.


That would be great. I know BBL is sending this 2022 team to the WSYL so I am curious to see how they match up vs the Riot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/02/17 05:59 PM
Will be relocating from DC area to Monmouth County, NJ.. Son is a 2023 middie, playing high-level travel for 3 years. Any good recommendations for club teams. Have no problem driving 30 mins..

Any help would be great.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/02/17 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will be relocating from DC area to Monmouth County, NJ.. Son is a 2023 middie, playing high-level travel for 3 years. Any good recommendations for club teams. Have no problem driving 30 mins..

Any help would be great.


Based on the level of the clubs and proximity to you, I would recommend anyone of these clubs: Leading Edge, Tri-State and United Lacrosse runs a solid program but no where near as elite as Leading Edge and a step behind Tristate. Hope this helps & best of luck.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/02/17 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will be relocating from DC area to Monmouth County, NJ.. Son is a 2023 middie, playing high-level travel for 3 years. Any good recommendations for club teams. Have no problem driving 30 mins..

Any help would be great.


Based on the level of the clubs and proximity to you, I would recommend anyone of these clubs: Leading Edge, Tri-State and United Lacrosse runs a solid program but no where near as elite as Leading Edge and a step behind Tristate. Hope this helps & best of luck.


Thank you.. What about NJLC or Mad Dog?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/16/17 12:12 AM
Surprised no one mentioning the merger between NJ's Leading Edge and Team91
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/16/17 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will see BBL and Riot this weekend up in Lehigh @ 2022 will let you know how they are.

BBL is from my experience damn good especially with the FOGO they have.


That would be great. I know BBL is sending this 2022 team to the WSYL so I am curious to see how they match up vs the Riot.


BBL beat Riot handily. Leading Edge was best team and best BBL 6-3.

Leading Edge look suspiciously big - like way too old big.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/17/17 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will see BBL and Riot this weekend up in Lehigh @ 2022 will let you know how they are.

BBL is from my experience damn good especially with the FOGO they have.


That would be great. I know BBL is sending this 2022 team to the WSYL so I am curious to see how they match up vs the Riot.


BBL beat Riot handily. Leading Edge was best team and best BBL 6-3.

Leading Edge look suspiciously big - like way too old big.


12 to 14 holdbacks on Leading Edge.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/17/17 01:24 PM
"We wanted you to be the first to know about the forthcoming merger between Leading Edge Athletics, LLC and Team 91 (aka Dynamic Sports Marketing). The new entity will be Dynamic Sports Marketing New Jersey."

How is the merger going to impact Leading Edge? They had a nice program, does becoming another piece in the Team 91 machine hurt them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/17/17 02:10 PM
I would not let my son play for BBL but they are fielding the most competitive teams in NJ right now. Some of their coaching staff is horrible. Some. Just there to punch a time card. Dopey guys who spend more time on their phone than focusing on the kids. Blue Star was looking to have something very special but they are getting greedy. The buzz has been really bad as of late.

Whoever mentioned the 23 Shore team just gave out a golden nugget.

There's another team which is on my radar but I will keep it to myself. Sorry. Won't let this rabbit out of my hat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/17/17 03:19 PM
BBL Black 2023 barely beat 2 B level teams at KOTM and lost twice to the only A level team in their division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/17/17 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would not let my son play for BBL but they are fielding the most competitive teams in NJ right now. Some of their coaching staff is horrible. Some. Just there to punch a time card. Dopey guys who spend more time on their phone than focusing on the kids. Blue Star was looking to have something very special but they are getting greedy. The buzz has been really bad as of late.

Whoever mentioned the 23 Shore team just gave out a golden nugget.

There's another team which is on my radar but I will keep it to myself. Sorry. Won't let this rabbit out of my hat.


Einstein is your little rabbit Mad Dog, Tri-State Shore or LeadingEdge South? Tri-State Shore is Exit 109 only, 23s are good other teams not so great. Mad Dog brings in some great coaches but still young program. Needs to expand their footprint to compete with larger programs. Leading Edge south is a joke. Will be gone once Team 91 sees the product on the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/17/17 05:52 PM
I appreciate the kind words but Mad Dog is not on my radar and I was only referring to Shore 23. The best 23 squad in NJ is BBL - but it is barely an A team. All the rest are B and below. Just not enough talent to go around. Sorry.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/17/17 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I appreciate the kind words but Mad Dog is not on my radar and I was only referring to Shore 23. The best 23 squad in NJ is BBL - but it is barely an A team. All the rest are B and below. Just not enough talent to go around. Sorry.


B and below...how did you come to that conclusion
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/17 04:16 AM
I'm not saying that there are no A players. There are plenty. Just spread out over a lot of different teams. There are very few true A 23 teams. Unless you can be competitive with 91 Bandits - seriously compete - then you are not an A team. If you can't sit at the table with serious teams from LI or MD then you are just filler for brackets. Just because a coach put a team in an A bracket doesn't mean they are an A team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/17 04:30 AM
I agree but I would argue that in a couple of years, playing in the A division (even though the team is not worthy of playing there), can help players get exposure and it could help those A players play against better talent. But at this point in time (7th grade), it does no good like you said.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/17 06:58 PM
I would rather see happy kids. They really don't care who they beat as long as they win. I'm not sure what is to be learned by getting stomped on by a team that practices year round 2 to 3 times a week. A team of NJ hold backs can't even compete against good Long Island teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather see happy kids. They really don't care who they beat as long as they win. I'm not sure what is to be learned by getting stomped on by a team that practices year round 2 to 3 times a week. A team of NJ hold backs can't even compete against good Long Island teams.


I don't think an Entire Team of hold backs would 'not' even compete against a LI Team...NJ has excellent players and some are just as good, if not better and it is about matchups. There are just too teams spread thin where on LI, the teams are more stacked with a lot more parity at least at the elite level.

Back to the 91/Leading Edge Merger - How is this going to help 91 and/or NJ Lax? IMO, Leading Edge was/is already a strong program so I don't see why they would 1) want to give up stake in their company and 2) how this is going to help build NJ Lax. This is obviously great for 91 as they will now be able to tap into the NJ market strengthening their bottom line, their brand and to help feed their events. Anyone have thoughts about this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/17 09:11 PM
I was intrigued by the press release -- but Leading Edge has such a bad reputation right now. I don't know any strong players who would want to play for their youth teams. It's all about BBL right now - but that will change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was intrigued by the press release -- but Leading Edge has such a bad reputation right now. I don't know any strong players who would want to play for their youth teams. It's all about BBL right now - but that will change.


Thanks for the insight. I do agree that BBL is the it club right now and that the acquisition can lead to something good. It will be interesting to see where this goes and what happens.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/17 10:17 PM
It will be interesting to see how BBL23 Black does against Dukes Nationals tomorrow at Victory.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/17 10:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It will be interesting to see how BBL23 Black does against Dukes Nationals tomorrow at Victory.


Ohhh Smack Talk!!! That should be a good game but I think Dukes Nationals gets the W but we shall see
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/17 11:00 PM
Have to agree with that. Too bad Brotherly Love is not in the bracket. Would have loved to see how they match up.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/17 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have to agree with that. Too bad Brotherly Love is not in the bracket. Would have loved to see how they match up.


I don't think it's BL's top team. This event lost 1/2 the field when they had to push it back 3 weeks
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/17 03:36 PM
It's the Back team. I imagine that they will lose to Dukes. If not, it would be a great win for the squad. The other teams are b level playing up in the bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/17 12:48 AM
As I figured, Brotherly Love Beat BBL Black at Victory.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/17 01:07 PM
and the Dukes beat BBL
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/17 04:38 PM
Wondering why Steps Elite (Boys) isn't making a major play. They actually have good coaches -- but the wrong model to be a real player. Thoughts.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/17 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not saying that there are no A players. There are plenty. Just spread out over a lot of different teams. There are very few true A 23 teams. Unless you can be competitive with 91 Bandits - seriously compete - then you are not an A team. If you can't sit at the table with serious teams from LI or MD then you are just filler for brackets. Just because a coach put a team in an A bracket doesn't mean they are an A team.


I agree, many of the NJ programs are diluted, however, I think that you will find that there are exceptions. Some of the NJ programs, at certain age groups, compete very well at A and AA national events. That being said, there are definitely many teams that get in over there heads, which is definitely a disservice to their players and parents, it's better to admit that you are a B program and be happy and competitive in a B bracket.

As for Leading Edge, it is a shame that the Elite program will lose its identity, but it may be a boost for the other Leading Edge teams, like LE South, that have not been that competitive the last few years, definitely a product of too many competing programs in the area.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/17 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not saying that there are no A players. There are plenty. Just spread out over a lot of different teams. There are very few true A 23 teams. Unless you can be competitive with 91 Bandits - seriously compete - then you are not an A team. If you can't sit at the table with serious teams from LI or MD then you are just filler for brackets. Just because a coach put a team in an A bracket doesn't mean they are an A team.


There are 4 to 4 teams in the country that can "seriously compete" with 91 Bandits. Let's be realistic..
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/17 05:12 PM
Exactly. And those are the AA teams. It's a 4 team bracket. Actually, there are more than 4 teams that can hang with the Bandits. Just can't beat them.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/17 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not saying that there are no A players. There are plenty. Just spread out over a lot of different teams. There are very few true A 23 teams. Unless you can be competitive with 91 Bandits - seriously compete - then you are not an A team. If you can't sit at the table with serious teams from LI or MD then you are just filler for brackets. Just because a coach put a team in an A bracket doesn't mean they are an A team.


There are 4 to 4 teams in the country that can "seriously compete" with 91 Bandits. Let's be realistic..


In order to beat them, you have to play them and learn what it takes. While the NJ teams are not beating teams like 91 Bandits, some are closing the gap. While lacrosse has been prevalent in the Northeast for a long time, its been a religion in Maryland and Long Island for just as long, so the pool of players is much larger. As the town rec. programs grow in NJ, so will the pool of talented players who will migrate to club lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 01:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not saying that there are no A players. There are plenty. Just spread out over a lot of different teams. There are very few true A 23 teams. Unless you can be competitive with 91 Bandits - seriously compete - then you are not an A team. If you can't sit at the table with serious teams from LI or MD then you are just filler for brackets. Just because a coach put a team in an A bracket doesn't mean they are an A team.


There are 4 to 4 teams in the country that can "seriously compete" with 91 Bandits. Let's be realistic..


In order to beat them, you have to play them and learn what it takes. While the NJ teams are not beating teams like 91 Bandits, some are closing the gap. While lacrosse has been prevalent in the Northeast for a long time, its been a religion in Maryland and Long Island for just as long, so the pool of players is much larger. As the town rec. programs grow in NJ, so will the pool of talented players who will migrate to club lacrosse.


Not sure I want my son's team to be be a sparring partner for the 91 Bandits. I would rather have them winning fights in a lower weight class against teams with similar coaching and training schedules. Just my opinion.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not saying that there are no A players. There are plenty. Just spread out over a lot of different teams. There are very few true A 23 teams. Unless you can be competitive with 91 Bandits - seriously compete - then you are not an A team. If you can't sit at the table with serious teams from LI or MD then you are just filler for brackets. Just because a coach put a team in an A bracket doesn't mean they are an A team.


There are 4 to 4 teams in the country that can "seriously compete" with 91 Bandits. Let's be realistic..


In order to beat them, you have to play them and learn what it takes. While the NJ teams are not beating teams like 91 Bandits, some are closing the gap. While lacrosse has been prevalent in the Northeast for a long time, its been a religion in Maryland and Long Island for just as long, so the pool of players is much larger. As the town rec. programs grow in NJ, so will the pool of talented players who will migrate to club lacrosse.


Not sure I want my son's team to be be a sparring partner for the 91 Bandits. I would rather have them winning fights in a lower weight class against teams with similar coaching and training schedules. Just my opinion.


Disagree, you are the type of parent this is making our next generation weak. They need to understand the talent and commitment that is required to be the best. Bandits are not walking out 5'10" holdbacks.

The bigger NJ issue is too many teams, not enough A players. It will never happen but there needs to be consolidation of talent within areas of NJ. Blue Star, NJLC, Turnpike, Tri State & Leading Edge all fighting for the same 25 "A" players in one area of NJ. Kid plays for Leading Edge then moves to Blue Star because the parents think the grass is greener. One club needs to rise above, or maybe 4 clubs one in each area.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 01:15 PM
Dude you are drinking the Kool Aid or serving it. I don't know much about the 25's -- but what I do know is that the best 26 players out now could destroy the best 25 players and they play for teams that are not mentioned above.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dude you are drinking the Kool Aid or serving it. I don't know much about the 25's -- but what I do know is that the best 26 players out now could destroy the best 25 players and they play for teams that are not mentioned above.


Not 2025s.. there are only twenty-five "A" players on five different NJ travel teams the rest are B players. If they lived in MD, PA & LI most of the NJ travel players would be on C teams.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not saying that there are no A players. There are plenty. Just spread out over a lot of different teams. There are very few true A 23 teams. Unless you can be competitive with 91 Bandits - seriously compete - then you are not an A team. If you can't sit at the table with serious teams from LI or MD then you are just filler for brackets. Just because a coach put a team in an A bracket doesn't mean they are an A team.


There are 4 to 4 teams in the country that can "seriously compete" with 91 Bandits. Let's be realistic..


In order to beat them, you have to play them and learn what it takes. While the NJ teams are not beating teams like 91 Bandits, some are closing the gap. While lacrosse has been prevalent in the Northeast for a long time, its been a religion in Maryland and Long Island for just as long, so the pool of players is much larger. As the town rec. programs grow in NJ, so will the pool of talented players who will migrate to club lacrosse.


Not sure I want my son's team to be be a sparring partner for the 91 Bandits. I would rather have them winning fights in a lower weight class against teams with similar coaching and training schedules. Just my opinion.


Disagree, you are the type of parent this is making our next generation weak. They need to understand the talent and commitment that is required to be the best. Bandits are not walking out 5'10" holdbacks.

The bigger NJ issue is too many teams, not enough A players. It will never happen but there needs to be consolidation of talent within areas of NJ. Blue Star, NJLC, Turnpike, Tri State & Leading Edge all fighting for the same 25 "A" players in one area of NJ. Kid plays for Leading Edge then moves to Blue Star because the parents think the grass is greener. One club needs to rise above, or maybe 4 clubs one in each area.


Yes, could not agree more. There are clubs that do very well serving the B level players and fill the role of development programs, this is a great step for the kid transitioning from town rec. to travel. On the other hand, there are programs, some mentioned above, that are more focused on developing a national presence, this is why they enter tournaments with teams such as 91 Bandit, Annapolis Hawks and the like. Unfortunately, all of these clubs are businesses and they rely on paying customers, therefore you have A kids on B clubs and vice versa. If the clubs were to look at the big picture, they would see that there could be a redistribution that gets B players onto B teams and A players on to A teams. Unfortunately, this will never happen, because the clubs have the mindset that they need to compete for players by claiming that they compete at the highest level. If your kid is on a team that is a "sparring partner" for clubs like 91 Bandits, then the club is not playing at the right level. On the other hand despite what some may think, there are several NJ teams that are playing and competing in top level tournaments. While they may finish in the middle of the pack because of teams like 91 Bandits, they are also beating some very reputable programs.,and keeping the games with teams such as 91 Bandits respectable. I have absolutely no issue with my kid going out and playing the Team 91s of the world, it builds character every time that they play and the gap narrows.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 02:19 PM
That’s a bit extreme - you might need a better scouting report.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 03:57 PM
Can anyone tell me what tournaments the following teams played over the fall? Only looking at 22 and below. Also, I would love to take a look at who is coaching some of these teams. Which ones embrace daddy ball - which ones have legit coaches and which one's have unqualified coaches.

BBL Black
Thunder
Leading Edge
Riot
02
Patriot
Tristate
Turnpike
Force
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone tell me what tournaments the following teams played over the fall? Only looking at 22 and below. Also, I would love to take a look at who is coaching some of these teams. Which ones embrace daddy ball - which ones have legit coaches and which one's have unqualified coaches.

BBL Black
Thunder
Leading Edge
Riot
02
Patriot
Tristate
Turnpike
Force



What is the point of your question...other than to poke the hornets nest.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone tell me what tournaments the following teams played over the fall? Only looking at 22 and below. Also, I would love to take a look at who is coaching some of these teams. Which ones embrace daddy ball - which ones have legit coaches and which one's have unqualified coaches.

BBL Black
Thunder
Leading Edge
Riot
02
Patriot
Tristate
Turnpike
Force



What is the point of your question...other than to poke the hornets nest.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone tell me what tournaments the following teams played over the fall? Only looking at 22 and below. Also, I would love to take a look at who is coaching some of these teams. Which ones embrace daddy ball - which ones have legit coaches and which one's have unqualified coaches.

BBL Black
Thunder
Leading Edge
Riot
02
Patriot
Tristate
Turnpike
Force



What is the point of your question...other than to poke the hornets nest.


The point is to publish what is really going on with the teams in NJ. Perhaps if people hold the teams accountable they will step up their game. Bottom line - facts are facts. The kids are great but parents shouldn't be spending good money on coaches that have no experience. Just because it looks like a Gucci bag - doesn't mean it's real. Why don't we take a look at what is really going on.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 05:39 PM
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 06:04 PM
BBl was at Victory Last weekend.

BBL 26 Won division.
BBL 25 went 1-2
BBl 24 Went 3-0 But lost the championship to Brotherly Love.
BBL 23 Went 2-1 Losing to Dukes Nationals
BBL 22 Went 2-0-1 Lost to Dukes Nationals

Competition was a mixed bag but BBL did well.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBl was at Victory Last weekend.

BBL 26 Won division.
BBL 25 went 1-2
BBl 24 Went 3-0 But lost the championship to Brotherly Love.
BBL 23 Went 2-1 Losing to Dukes Nationals
BBL 22 Went 2-0-1 Lost to Dukes Nationals

Competition was a mixed bag but BBL did well.


Based on coaching & teams..

BBL is "A" team in North Jersey.. All but their 25s still too young to count.

Central - LeadingEdge, TriState, Blue Star ???

Shore/South - TriState, United, Mad Dog???
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?


I like this. Sound like a good move.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really know much about Transition, is this really a big deal. When the NJ clubs are discussed, Transition is not a name that I hear a lot.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really know much about Transition, is this really a big deal. When the NJ clubs are discussed, Transition is not a name that I hear a lot.


"Transition Lacrosse was founded by Westfield HS Varsity Coach Patrick Tuohy and Immaculata HS Varsity Coach Thomas Mott with the goal of helping players reach their full potential both on and off the field. Transition Lacrosse also offers a platform to assist players with the recruiting process as they progress with their career."
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really know much about Transition, is this really a big deal. When the NJ clubs are discussed, Transition is not a name that I hear a lot.


"Transition Lacrosse was founded by Westfield HS Varsity Coach Patrick Tuohy and Immaculata HS Varsity Coach Thomas Mott with the goal of helping players reach their full potential both on and off the field. Transition Lacrosse also offers a platform to assist players with the recruiting process as they progress with their career."


So not really comparable to 91 merging with Leading Edge - the real prize being Leading Edge Elite
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/21/17 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really know much about Transition, is this really a big deal. When the NJ clubs are discussed, Transition is not a name that I hear a lot.


"Transition Lacrosse was founded by Westfield HS Varsity Coach Patrick Tuohy and Immaculata HS Varsity Coach Thomas Mott with the goal of helping players reach their full potential both on and off the field. Transition Lacrosse also offers a platform to assist players with the recruiting process as they progress with their career."


So not really comparable to 91 merging with Leading Edge - the real prize being Leading Edge Elite


Could be a tournament play for 91 & 3D. NJ is more centrally located, 2+ hours from MD/New England & 1+ hour from PA/LI.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/28/17 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really know much about Transition, is this really a big deal. When the NJ clubs are discussed, Transition is not a name that I hear a lot.


"Transition Lacrosse was founded by Westfield HS Varsity Coach Patrick Tuohy and Immaculata HS Varsity Coach Thomas Mott with the goal of helping players reach their full potential both on and off the field. Transition Lacrosse also offers a platform to assist players with the recruiting process as they progress with their career."


So not really comparable to 91 merging with Leading Edge - the real prize being Leading Edge Elite


Could be a tournament play for 91 & 3D. NJ is more centrally located, 2+ hours from MD/New England & 1+ hour from PA/LI.


Also brings more teams under the NLF umbrella, but how may times do you want to play the same teams over and over.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/28/17 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WESTFIELD, N.J. — 3d Lacrosse, the nation’s leading provider of lacrosse training and development services, has announced the formation of 3d Garden State, a New Jersey-based market that will serve lacrosse players in the Northern New Jersey region.

Based in Westfield, N.J., 3d Garden State will provide 3d Lacrosse’s widely regarded Select teams, hybrid and small-sided training, workshops, camps and clinics and other player development opportunities to youth and high school-age players in New Jersey.

Patrick Tuohy, formerly of Transition Lacrosse, has been named the Director of 3d Garden State. He will oversee all aspects of 3d Garden State’s coaching and operations kicking off immediately.


Let's water it down some more.. Is Transition going to pull the plug?


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't really know much about Transition, is this really a big deal. When the NJ clubs are discussed, Transition is not a name that I hear a lot.


"Transition Lacrosse was founded by Westfield HS Varsity Coach Patrick Tuohy and Immaculata HS Varsity Coach Thomas Mott with the goal of helping players reach their full potential both on and off the field. Transition Lacrosse also offers a platform to assist players with the recruiting process as they progress with their career."


So not really comparable to 91 merging with Leading Edge - the real prize being Leading Edge Elite


Could be a tournament play for 91 & 3D. NJ is more centrally located, 2+ hours from MD/New England & 1+ hour from PA/LI.


Most MD tools never leave their backwater caves. Why should they when the competition goes to them? Pulling in New England, NY, NJ and PA into central tournaments will help with that. NJ is a better trip for most than going to LI. I hope it works out. Let the MD teams play themselves to death until they have to leave the state.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/28/17 06:15 PM
Anyone know what spring league Leading Edge or any of the NJ clubs play in?
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/17 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what spring league Leading Edge or any of the NJ clubs play in?

No - but they are still looking players on their 24-26 squads.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/17 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what spring league Leading Edge or any of the NJ clubs play in?

No - but they are still looking players on their 24-26 squads.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/17 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what spring league Leading Edge or any of the NJ clubs play in?

No - but they are still looking players on their 24-26 squads.


23 - 26
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/17 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what spring league Leading Edge or any of the NJ clubs play in?

No - but they are still looking players on their 24-26 squads.


23 - 26

My bad. 23 -26.
Posted By: Anonymous (NA) Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/17 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what spring league Leading Edge or any of the NJ clubs play in?

No - but they are still looking players on their 24-26 squads.


23 - 26

My bad. 23 -26.


Not surprised, they are trying to field teams in areas that are already saturated. For example, a team like LE South is competing with Mad Dog, United and Tri State.. there are top players in the area but not enough to fill that many clubs at a competitive level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/07/17 12:16 AM
More like 4. Leading Edge is the only program in NJ that consistently plays the best teams game in and game out. Their youth teams do not win a lot but they get much better playing against the best every single game. My son is a product of it. No way any other club in NJ consistently plays the level of competition that Leading Edge does, not even close. We started out in another program, which I thought had a good schedule. It is a whole different world playing against those NLF teams. The youth kids take their lumps, but they improve significantly. When they get into HS Leading Edge is one of the best 4 teams at every tournament. I would rather learn how to be competitive in middle school and lose more than I win, and in return be prepared to compete at the highest level when the college coaches have their eyeballs on you. I see so many parents at the middle school level more concerned with winning. They are missing the boat if they are truly serious about their son competing at a high level and getting to the D1 level. The long island boys do not have to leave nassau or Suffolk to get that in their formative years. We in NJ have have to seek it out and not shy away from it. Too many in NJ are stuck in the mud thinking that playing against the 3rd LIE team or 2nd 91 team is as good as playing against the first teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/07/17 12:54 AM
Haha
Yeah they get better in High School because they cut your kid. Then they raid all the other programs and get better talent. LE takes anyone at youth level dumb enough to pay. Then they get cut after 7th grade. Just ask bbl, they have taken their players for years.
Fact of the matter is LE helps with recruitment at the hs level and bbl does not. But do not think any kid is getting better in LE youth program. They are NOT.
And now that holdbacks have flooded 2022, you can be sure there will be no kid from the last couple of years left in the fall of 2018.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/07/17 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haha
Yeah they get better in High School because they cut your kid. Then they raid all the other programs and get better talent. LE takes anyone at youth level dumb enough to pay. Then they get cut after 7th grade. Just ask bbl, they have taken their players for years.
Fact of the matter is LE helps with recruitment at the hs level and bbl does not. But do not think any kid is getting better in LE youth program. They are NOT.
And now that holdbacks have flooded 2022, you can be sure there will be no kid from the last couple of years left in the fall of 2018.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
More like 4. Leading Edge is the only program in NJ that consistently plays the best teams game in and game out. Their youth teams do not win a lot but they get much better playing against the best every single game. My son is a product of it. No way any other club in NJ consistently plays the level of competition that Leading Edge does, not even close. We started out in another program, which I thought had a good schedule. It is a whole different world playing against those NLF teams. The youth kids take their lumps, but they improve significantly. When they get into HS Leading Edge is one of the best 4 teams at every tournament. I would rather learn how to be competitive in middle school and lose more than I win, and in return be prepared to compete at the highest level when the college coaches have their eyeballs on you. I see so many parents at the middle school level more concerned with winning. They are missing the boat if they are truly serious about their son competing at a high level and getting to the D1 level. The long island boys do not have to leave nassau or Suffolk to get that in their formative years. We in NJ have have to seek it out and not shy away from it. Too many in NJ are stuck in the mud thinking that playing against the 3rd LIE team or 2nd 91 team is as good as playing against the first teams.


You living in the past. Yes, they have been able to take the top players from other clubs. Those days are over. They are losing players to BBL, Blue Star, and others. They are losing 16-1 at the younger levels to NJ teams "stuck in the mud".

Maybe you are a masochist but most parents don't like to watch little Jonny lose by 10. The "we play better teams" only works for a couple of tournaments and you can't say they have better coaching.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/07/17 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haha
Yeah they get better in High School because they cut your kid. Then they raid all the other programs and get better talent. LE takes anyone at youth level dumb enough to pay. Then they get cut after 7th grade. Just ask bbl, they have taken their players for years.
Fact of the matter is LE helps with recruitment at the hs level and bbl does not. But do not think any kid is getting better in LE youth program. They are NOT.
And now that holdbacks have flooded 2022, you can be sure there will be no kid from the last couple of years left in the fall of 2018.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
More like 4. Leading Edge is the only program in NJ that consistently plays the best teams game in and game out. Their youth teams do not win a lot but they get much better playing against the best every single game. My son is a product of it. No way any other club in NJ consistently plays the level of competition that Leading Edge does, not even close. We started out in another program, which I thought had a good schedule. It is a whole different world playing against those NLF teams. The youth kids take their lumps, but they improve significantly. When they get into HS Leading Edge is one of the best 4 teams at every tournament. I would rather learn how to be competitive in middle school and lose more than I win, and in return be prepared to compete at the highest level when the college coaches have their eyeballs on you. I see so many parents at the middle school level more concerned with winning. They are missing the boat if they are truly serious about their son competing at a high level and getting to the D1 level. The long island boys do not have to leave nassau or Suffolk to get that in their formative years. We in NJ have have to seek it out and not shy away from it. Too many in NJ are stuck in the mud thinking that playing against the 3rd LIE team or 2nd 91 team is as good as playing against the first teams.


You living in the past. Yes, they have been able to take the top players from other clubs. Those days are over. They are losing players to BBL, Blue Star, and others. They are losing 16-1 at the younger levels to NJ teams "stuck in the mud".

Maybe you are a masochist but most parents don't like to watch little Jonny lose by 10. The "we play better teams" only works for a couple of tournaments and you can't say they have better coaching.


You obviously did not read the post. I am not a LE fan. They are horrible at the youth level. At the High School level they are the top club. To say that the kids do not leave their clubs to go to LE in H.S. is a lie. BBL is better at everything except recruiting and that is why the better kids leave.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/07/17 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haha
Yeah they get better in High School because they cut your kid. Then they raid all the other programs and get better talent. LE takes anyone at youth level dumb enough to pay. Then they get cut after 7th grade. Just ask bbl, they have taken their players for years.
Fact of the matter is LE helps with recruitment at the hs level and bbl does not. But do not think any kid is getting better in LE youth program. They are NOT.
And now that holdbacks have flooded 2022, you can be sure there will be no kid from the last couple of years left in the fall of 2018.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
More like 4. Leading Edge is the only program in NJ that consistently plays the best teams game in and game out. Their youth teams do not win a lot but they get much better playing against the best every single game. My son is a product of it. No way any other club in NJ consistently plays the level of competition that Leading Edge does, not even close. We started out in another program, which I thought had a good schedule. It is a whole different world playing against those NLF teams. The youth kids take their lumps, but they improve significantly. When they get into HS Leading Edge is one of the best 4 teams at every tournament. I would rather learn how to be competitive in middle school and lose more than I win, and in return be prepared to compete at the highest level when the college coaches have their eyeballs on you. I see so many parents at the middle school level more concerned with winning. They are missing the boat if they are truly serious about their son competing at a high level and getting to the D1 level. The long island boys do not have to leave nassau or Suffolk to get that in their formative years. We in NJ have have to seek it out and not shy away from it. Too many in NJ are stuck in the mud thinking that playing against the 3rd LIE team or 2nd 91 team is as good as playing against the first teams.


You living in the past. Yes, they have been able to take the top players from other clubs. Those days are over. They are losing players to BBL, Blue Star, and others. They are losing 16-1 at the younger levels to NJ teams "stuck in the mud".

Maybe you are a masochist but most parents don't like to watch little Jonny lose by 10. The "we play better teams" only works for a couple of tournaments and you can't say they have better coaching.


You obviously did not read the post. I am not a LE fan. They are horrible at the youth level. At the High School level they are the top club. To say that the kids do not leave their clubs to go to LE in H.S. is a lie. BBL is better at everything except recruiting and that is why the better kids leave.

Lets be honest, if your kid is good enough, recruiting is not a huge issue because they will get noticed, this is why colleges pay people to go out and find players. Sure, it helps if your club is playing in top tournaments against top teams, that is typically where the coaches are spending the majority of their time, but this also means that playing the same NLF teams in the same NLF tournaments all of the time is not getting your kid the most exposure. College coaches aren't hanging around the NLF tournaments all of the time, they can go to one, see the talent, and then spend their time elsewhere, if anything, this cuts down on your kids exposure. If you are playing in a wide variety of top national tournaments, you are more likely to get noticed. And I tend to agree with the above post. In the past, there was some migration of top players to LE once they reached the elite level, but it seems that this trend has slowed down, not sure how the 91 affiliation with affect that.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/08/17 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haha
Yeah they get better in High School because they cut your kid. Then they raid all the other programs and get better talent. LE takes anyone at youth level dumb enough to pay. Then they get cut after 7th grade. Just ask bbl, they have taken their players for years.
Fact of the matter is LE helps with recruitment at the hs level and bbl does not. But do not think any kid is getting better in LE youth program. They are NOT.
And now that holdbacks have flooded 2022, you can be sure there will be no kid from the last couple of years left in the fall of 2018.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
More like 4. Leading Edge is the only program in NJ that consistently plays the best teams game in and game out. Their youth teams do not win a lot but they get much better playing against the best every single game. My son is a product of it. No way any other club in NJ consistently plays the level of competition that Leading Edge does, not even close. We started out in another program, which I thought had a good schedule. It is a whole different world playing against those NLF teams. The youth kids take their lumps, but they improve significantly. When they get into HS Leading Edge is one of the best 4 teams at every tournament. I would rather learn how to be competitive in middle school and lose more than I win, and in return be prepared to compete at the highest level when the college coaches have their eyeballs on you. I see so many parents at the middle school level more concerned with winning. They are missing the boat if they are truly serious about their son competing at a high level and getting to the D1 level. The long island boys do not have to leave nassau or Suffolk to get that in their formative years. We in NJ have have to seek it out and not shy away from it. Too many in NJ are stuck in the mud thinking that playing against the 3rd LIE team or 2nd 91 team is as good as playing against the first teams.


You living in the past. Yes, they have been able to take the top players from other clubs. Those days are over. They are losing players to BBL, Blue Star, and others. They are losing 16-1 at the younger levels to NJ teams "stuck in the mud".

Maybe you are a masochist but most parents don't like to watch little Jonny lose by 10. The "we play better teams" only works for a couple of tournaments and you can't say they have better coaching.


You obviously did not read the post. I am not a LE fan. They are horrible at the youth level. At the High School level they are the top club. To say that the kids do not leave their clubs to go to LE in H.S. is a lie. BBL is better at everything except recruiting and that is why the better kids leave.

Lets be honest, if your kid is good enough, recruiting is not a huge issue because they will get noticed, this is why colleges pay people to go out and find players. Sure, it helps if your club is playing in top tournaments against top teams, that is typically where the coaches are spending the majority of their time, but this also means that playing the same NLF teams in the same NLF tournaments all of the time is not getting your kid the most exposure. College coaches aren't hanging around the NLF tournaments all of the time, they can go to one, see the talent, and then spend their time elsewhere, if anything, this cuts down on your kids exposure. If you are playing in a wide variety of top national tournaments, you are more likely to get noticed. And I tend to agree with the above post. In the past, there was some migration of top players to LE once they reached the elite level, but it seems that this trend has slowed down, not sure how the 91 affiliation with affect that.


You are absolutely right. The NLF is great and all but College Coaches are still going to the other reputable events and keep in mind that there are 3-4 coaches from a college so that means that they can be at 3 different events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/20/17 09:21 PM
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/17 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/17 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?

Doesn't matter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/17 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?

Doesn't matter.


if it doesn't matter head to PA or MD

Best Coaching
North - BBL
Middle - Leading Edge Elite
West - Blue Star
Shore - Mad Dog
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/17 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?

Doesn't matter.


if it doesn't matter head to PA or MD

Best Coaching
North - BBL
Middle - Leading Edge Elite
West - Blue Star
Shore - Mad Dog



If you are only talking about 2024, Tri-State central team
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/17 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?

Doesn't matter.


if it doesn't matter head to PA or MD

Best Coaching
North - BBL
Middle - Leading Edge Elite
West - Blue Star
Shore - Mad Dog


I would throw in SJ Shamrocks too
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/17 09:06 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?

Doesn't matter.


if it doesn't matter head to PA or MD

Best Coaching
North - BBL
Middle - Leading Edge Elite
West - Blue Star
Shore - Mad Dog


I would throw in SJ Shamrocks too

What can you tell me about Mad Dog and the Shamrocks. Do you know who coaches the 2024 squad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/22/17 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?

Doesn't matter.


if it doesn't matter head to PA or MD

Best Coaching
North - BBL
Middle - Leading Edge Elite
West - Blue Star
Shore - Mad Dog


I would throw in SJ Shamrocks too

What can you tell me about Mad Dog and the Shamrocks. Do you know who coaches the 2024 squad.


Shamrocks played as a B team last year. was a 2024/25 team. I wouldn't include them on this list.

Check the team's websites or call the club presidents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/26/17 09:54 PM

Mad dog is a good program but tends to be made up of, and favor, the local kids. Not sure about coaching for 2024s, but coaching has been an issue for 2023s, although rumor is that things have changed. Also, very positive feedback about guy that runs the program. Just to be clear, my kid does not play for Mad Dog.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/27/17 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad dog is a good program but tends to be made up of, and favor, the local kids. Not sure about coaching for 2024s, but coaching has been an issue for 2023s, although rumor is that have changed. Also, very positive feedback about guy that runs the program. Just to be clear, my kid does not play for Mad Dog.


Not sure about the local kids statement. They have players from Mt. Olive & Summit. Yes, 2023 coaching was an issue that they have addressed. 2024 & 2025 teams are very good and contiue to get stronger every year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/27/17 03:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad dog is a good program but tends to be made up of, and favor, the local kids. Not sure about coaching for 2024s, but coaching has been an issue for 2023s, although rumor is that have changed. Also, very positive feedback about guy that runs the program. Just to be clear, my kid does not play for Mad Dog.


Not sure about the local kids statement. They have players from Mt. Olive & Summit. Yes, 2023 coaching was an issue that they have addressed. 2024 & 2025 teams are very good and contiue to get stronger every year.


Yes, a couple of non-local kids, usually families that have vacation homes at the shore, so they play Mad Dog for the summer. Perhaps the local kids point is just exaggerated by disgruntled parents, but I see a lot of Mad Dog helmets on one of the local town teams, but then again, there is something to be said about loyalty to the local kids. Again, as I said before, I have heard great things about the guy who runs the program, supposedly a class act and a knowledgeable coach. Fortunately, I feel that my son is on the best team in the area for his age group, and I would not change a thing, but Mad Dog would definitely be an option if things were different.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/29/17 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad dog is a good program but tends to be made up of, and favor, the local kids. Not sure about coaching for 2024s, but coaching has been an issue for 2023s, although rumor is that have changed. Also, very positive feedback about guy that runs the program. Just to be clear, my kid does not play for Mad Dog.


Not sure about the local kids statement. They have players from Mt. Olive & Summit. Yes, 2023 coaching was an issue that they have addressed. 2024 & 2025 teams are very good and contiue to get stronger every year.


Yes, a couple of non-local kids, usually families that have vacation homes at the shore, so they play Mad Dog for the summer. Perhaps the local kids point is just exaggerated by disgruntled parents, but I see a lot of Mad Dog helmets on one of the local town teams, but then again, there is something to be said about loyalty to the local kids. Again, as I said before, I have heard great things about the guy who runs the program, supposedly a class act and a knowledgeable coach. Fortunately, I feel that my son is on the best team in the area for his age group, and I would not change a thing, but Mad Dog would definitely be an option if things were different.


Just keep away from NJ Riot a complete waste of time a major money grab
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/05/18 02:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone having a good experience with a 2024 squad in NJ other than BBL? Good communication. No parent coaching. High quality coaches.


What part of NJ?

Doesn't matter.


if it doesn't matter head to PA or MD

Best Coaching
North - BBL
Middle - Leading Edge Elite
West - Blue Star
Shore - Mad Dog


I would throw in SJ Shamrocks too

What can you tell me about Mad Dog and the Shamrocks. Do you know who coaches the 2024 squad.


I do not know much about their 2024 team but they are up and coming. They do a pretty good job with the HS players with getting them into some top events and do a lot on the recruiting side with setting players up with a ConnectLax profile and guiding them through the process from what I have heard. Hope that helps at least for the future
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/05/18 04:46 PM


I do not know much about their 2024 team but they are up and coming. They do a pretty good job with the HS players with getting them into some top events and do a lot on the recruiting side with setting players up with a ConnectLax profile and guiding them through the process from what I have heard. Hope that helps at least for the future[/quote]

If you are down to those two, I would go with Mad Dog over Shamrocks. If your kid is an A/AA player, they have a larger national presence with MD West and select team, MD will play some of the bigger tournaments...if you are open to other 2024 options, Tri-State central team should be in the discussion
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/05/18 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I do not know much about their 2024 team but they are up and coming. They do a pretty good job with the HS players with getting them into some top events and do a lot on the recruiting side with setting players up with a ConnectLax profile and guiding them through the process from what I have heard. Hope that helps at least for the future


If you are down to those two, I would go with Mad Dog over Shamrocks. If your kid is an A/AA player, they have a larger national presence with MD West and select team, MD will play some of the bigger tournaments...if you are open to other 2024 options, Tri-State central team should be in the discussion [/quote]

The top Tri-State 2024 players all move to United? Something about coaching issues..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/05/18 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I do not know much about their 2024 team but they are up and coming. They do a pretty good job with the HS players with getting them into some top events and do a lot on the recruiting side with setting players up with a ConnectLax profile and guiding them through the process from what I have heard. Hope that helps at least for the future


If you are down to those two, I would go with Mad Dog over Shamrocks. If your kid is an A/AA player, they have a larger national presence with MD West and select team, MD will play some of the bigger tournaments...if you are open to other 2024 options, Tri-State central team should be in the discussion


The top Tri-State 2024 players all move to United? Something about coaching issues.. [/quote]

The kids that went to united were from the 2024 shore team, not central... and it was all about politics. Most of top kids are on 2024 central
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/09/18 12:55 PM
Any NJ clubs playing in any spring leagues?
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/09/18 01:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs playing in any spring leagues?

The leagues, besides the winter are dying a slow death. I can't see them doing anything....what leagues were you thinking that anyone would do?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/09/18 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs playing in any spring leagues?

The leagues, besides the winter are dying a slow death. I can't see them doing anything....what leagues were you thinking that anyone would do?


NXT
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/09/18 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs playing in any spring leagues?

The leagues, besides the winter are dying a slow death. I can't see them doing anything....what leagues were you thinking that anyone would do?


NXT


Boys teams committed to the 2018 Mid-Atlantic Lacrosse League include:Brotherly Love, Chosen, Dukes Young Guns, Freedom, HEADstrong Lehigh Valley, NXT, Olde English, BBL, PA Roughriders, SJ Black Storm, Team 11, TeamTEN, Tri-State, Tribal & Uprising.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/10/18 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs playing in any spring leagues?

The leagues, besides the winter are dying a slow death. I can't see them doing anything....what leagues were you thinking that anyone would do?


NXT


Boys teams committed to the 2018 Mid-Atlantic Lacrosse League include:Brotherly Love, Chosen, Dukes Young Guns, Freedom, HEADstrong Lehigh Valley, NXT, Olde English, BBL, PA Roughriders, SJ Black Storm, Team 11, TeamTEN, Tri-State, Tribal & Uprising.


I didn't realize - thanks for the info
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/11/18 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs playing in any spring leagues?

The leagues, besides the winter are dying a slow death. I can't see them doing anything....what leagues were you thinking that anyone would do?


NXT


Boys teams committed to the 2018 Mid-Atlantic Lacrosse League include:Brotherly Love, Chosen, Dukes Young Guns, Freedom, HEADstrong Lehigh Valley, NXT, Olde English, BBL, PA Roughriders, SJ Black Storm, Team 11, TeamTEN, Tri-State, Tribal & Uprising.


I didn't realize - thanks for the info


would be nice to see Blue Star, Leading Edge, Mad Dog & Steps join the mix
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/11/18 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs playing in any spring leagues?

The leagues, besides the winter are dying a slow death. I can't see them doing anything....what leagues were you thinking that anyone would do?


NXT


Boys teams committed to the 2018 Mid-Atlantic Lacrosse League include:Brotherly Love, Chosen, Dukes Young Guns, Freedom, HEADstrong Lehigh Valley, NXT, Olde English, BBL, PA Roughriders, SJ Black Storm, Team 11, TeamTEN, Tri-State, Tribal & Uprising.


I didn't realize - thanks for the info


would be nice to see Blue Star, Leading Edge, Mad Dog & Steps join the mix


Not sure how man of those clubs run spring programs. You would think that they could do a similar league in NJ, but the top NJ teams seem to avoid each other, maybe to protect their brand. Then again, if you look at the trash talking on the MD, PA and NY forums, maybe it's a good thing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/31/18 01:41 PM
Anyone know how the Team 91 NJ Supplemental Tryouts are going? Leading Edge South wasn't doing well, curious if name change helped.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/31/18 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how the Team 91 NJ Supplemental Tryouts are going? Leading Edge South wasn't doing well, curious if name change helped.


Not sure that 91 affiliation is going to do anything for LE South, that program struggled in B tournaments the last few years. While lacrosse is growing rapidly in the local market, there simply are not enough players right now for all of the local clubs to field competitive teams. LE South is somewhat of an outlier, Mad Dog, United and Tri-State each have a relatively steady stream of loyal followers.
Posted By: LaxrFanatic Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 02/03/18 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how the Team 91 NJ Supplemental Tryouts are going? Leading Edge South wasn't doing well, curious if name change helped.


Not sure that 91 affiliation is going to do anything for LE South, that program struggled in B tournaments the last few years. While lacrosse is growing rapidly in the local market, there simply are not enough players right now for all of the local clubs to field competitive teams. LE South is somewhat of an outlier, Mad Dog, United and Tri-State each have a relatively steady stream of loyal followers.


I agree. If you look at the other markets that they are in, they aren't so dominant like they are on Long Island. Will be interesting to see who will jump ship, especially the very first year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 02/26/18 05:39 PM
Any Supplemental Tryouts for NJ team coming up or in the spring? My 6th grader is looking to try out for a summer team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 02/26/18 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Supplemental Tryouts for NJ team coming up or in the spring? My 6th grader is looking to try out for a summer team.


Just call the clubs you are interested in, my guess is that they would make an accommodation if they need players...just watch out for the money grab teams with 25 players on the roster
Posted By: MomOf6 Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/01/18 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Supplemental Tryouts for NJ team coming up or in the spring? My 6th grader is looking to try out for a summer team.


Just call the clubs you are interested in, my guess is that they would make an accommodation if they need players...just watch out for the money grab teams with 25 players on the roster


I certainly agree with the above post however, there are plenty of programs that will be in need of a player or two. Which area in NJ do you live? I serve as a moderator when I can and BOTC is going to be expanding into the other markets that have their own forum sections now so I do know they plan on posting both Boys & Girls teams tryouts and supplemental tryouts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/01/18 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by MomOf6
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Supplemental Tryouts for NJ team coming up or in the spring? My 6th grader is looking to try out for a summer team.


Just call the clubs you are interested in, my guess is that they would make an accommodation if they need players...just watch out for the money grab teams with 25 players on the roster


I certainly agree with the above post however, there are plenty of programs that will be in need of a player or two. Which area in NJ do you live? I serve as a moderator when I can and BOTC is going to be expanding into the other markets that have their own forum sections now so I do know they plan on posting both Boys & Girls teams tryouts and supplemental tryouts.


Exit 109
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/01/18 02:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MomOf6
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Supplemental Tryouts for NJ team coming up or in the spring? My 6th grader is looking to try out for a summer team.


Just call the clubs you are interested in, my guess is that they would make an accommodation if they need players...just watch out for the money grab teams with 25 players on the roster


I certainly agree with the above post however, there are plenty of programs that will be in need of a player or two. Which area in NJ do you live? I serve as a moderator when I can and BOTC is going to be expanding into the other markets that have their own forum sections now so I do know they plan on posting both Boys & Girls teams tryouts and supplemental tryouts.


Exit 109


United is usually willing to take on new players, but the 2024 team is a group that has been playing together for a while, not sure if it will be hard to break in to that team, maybe Tri State if they have an open slot on the 2024 shore team... not sure what the story is with Mad Dog 2024.. The truth is, if your kid is good, most teams will give him a shot...Has he been playing a for a while, town rec. or other spring programs. United does a lot of indoor training down in Oakhurst, you can pay per session, its a good way to get your foot in the door and meet the coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/15/18 12:30 PM
It’s actually about 4-5 holdbacks, but we hey also have kids that play up a year too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/03/18 12:51 PM
Any NJ Kids trying out for Warrior All America team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/01/18 05:22 PM
O2 National Box Lacrosse in North Jersey are looking to add two players to their 2022 USBOXLA Nationals Team going to Huntington Beach, Ca in August. Email info@o2lacrossetraining.com if interested.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/04/18 04:39 PM
That 02 program seems to be getting good players and I think b/c they were heavily focused with box, the players transition well to the field lacrosse game
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/07/18 04:56 PM
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/07/18 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.


Seems that the quality teams all charge in between $2,300 and $3,000 for an all-inclusive price year round.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/08/18 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.


Seems that the quality teams all charge in between $2,300 and $3,000 for an all-inclusive price year round.


Probably a fair estimate, maybe higher in a few instances, but the real issue is value for the money. While every team does their standard 4 summer tournaments, the question is what are you getting for that money off-season. Fall tournaments are few and far between, so more a means to keep the lacrosse skills sharp. Winter is the big factor because you have some clubs that are very active playing competitive box, while other clubs simply run practices in a indoor facility. Spring is really the same as the fall unless your club is getting involved in a competitive spring league like NXT MId-Atlantic.
Posted By: LiLaxDad Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/10/18 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.


Seems that the quality teams all charge in between $2,300 and $3,000 for an all-inclusive price year round.


Probably a fair estimate, maybe higher in a few instances, but the real issue is value for the money. While every team does their standard 4 summer tournaments, the question is what are you getting for that money off-season. Fall tournaments are few and far between, so more a means to keep the lacrosse skills sharp. Winter is the big factor because you have some clubs that are very active playing competitive box, while other clubs simply run practices in a indoor facility. Spring is really the same as the fall unless your club is getting involved in a competitive spring league like NXT MId-Atlantic.


Not from NJ but I agree. It all depends on the quality which varies per grad year. For HS level players, if the team is going to top 'Recruiting Events' then paying in between that rate is Fair. Here on LI though, there are a couple teams that charge 4k which is insane. Do you due diligence to see what events and like the previous poster wrote, also check the quantity of practices in the Fall, Winter & Spring/Summer however, from what I have seen changed over the past 4 years, more teams are not really offering Fall practices and are primarily charging for the Winter-Summer with an option to pay for the Fall.

Not sure if NJ teams are doing the same but would be curious to know.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/10/18 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by LiLaxDad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.


Seems that the quality teams all charge in between $2,300 and $3,000 for an all-inclusive price year round.


Probably a fair estimate, maybe higher in a few instances, but the real issue is value for the money. While every team does their standard 4 summer tournaments, the question is what are you getting for that money off-season. Fall tournaments are few and far between, so more a means to keep the lacrosse skills sharp. Winter is the big factor because you have some clubs that are very active playing competitive box, while other clubs simply run practices in a indoor facility. Spring is really the same as the fall unless your club is getting involved in a competitive spring league like NXT MId-Atlantic.


Not from NJ but I agree. It all depends on the quality which varies per grad year. For HS level players, if the team is going to top 'Recruiting Events' then paying in between that rate is Fair. Here on LI though, there are a couple teams that charge 4k which is insane. Do you due diligence to see what events and like the previous poster wrote, also check the quantity of practices in the Fall, Winter & Spring/Summer however, from what I have seen changed over the past 4 years, more teams are not really offering Fall practices and are primarily charging for the Winter-Summer with an option to pay for the Fall.

Not sure if NJ teams are doing the same but would be curious to know.


Some sell it as a complete package, others offer it a la carte for the off-season. Having to buy into the whole year seems contrary to the concept of wanting to encourage multi-sport athletes. As stated earlier, the biggest push has been with respect to competitive box, the number of clubs participating is growing fast. NJ has a lot of talent, but not the participation numbers like LI - competition is more fierce for spots on top LI clubs, so the top LI clubs have more leverage to push a costly all-in year round package.
Posted By: Stickcheck Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/11/18 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LiLaxDad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.


Seems that the quality teams all charge in between $2,300 and $3,000 for an all-inclusive price year round.


Probably a fair estimate, maybe higher in a few instances, but the real issue is value for the money. While every team does their standard 4 summer tournaments, the question is what are you getting for that money off-season. Fall tournaments are few and far between, so more a means to keep the lacrosse skills sharp. Winter is the big factor because you have some clubs that are very active playing competitive box, while other clubs simply run practices in a indoor facility. Spring is really the same as the fall unless your club is getting involved in a competitive spring league like NXT MId-Atlantic.


Not from NJ but I agree. It all depends on the quality which varies per grad year. For HS level players, if the team is going to top 'Recruiting Events' then paying in between that rate is Fair. Here on LI though, there are a couple teams that charge 4k which is insane. Do you due diligence to see what events and like the previous poster wrote, also check the quantity of practices in the Fall, Winter & Spring/Summer however, from what I have seen changed over the past 4 years, more teams are not really offering Fall practices and are primarily charging for the Winter-Summer with an option to pay for the Fall.

Not sure if NJ teams are doing the same but would be curious to know.


Some sell it as a complete package, others offer it a la carte for the off-season. Having to buy into the whole year seems contrary to the concept of wanting to encourage multi-sport athletes. As stated earlier, the biggest push has been with respect to competitive box, the number of clubs participating is growing fast. NJ has a lot of talent, but not the participation numbers like LI - competition is more fierce for spots on top LI clubs, so the top LI clubs have more leverage to push a costly all-in year round package.


Excellent perspective however, LI is saturated with teams so with a plethora of alternatives, I can't comprehend why people pay some programs like fl$ & Igloo 4k when there are teams significantly cheaper and better
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/11/18 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Stickcheck
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LiLaxDad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.


Seems that the quality teams all charge in between $2,300 and $3,000 for an all-inclusive price year round.


Probably a fair estimate, maybe higher in a few instances, but the real issue is value for the money. While every team does their standard 4 summer tournaments, the question is what are you getting for that money off-season. Fall tournaments are few and far between, so more a means to keep the lacrosse skills sharp. Winter is the big factor because you have some clubs that are very active playing competitive box, while other clubs simply run practices in a indoor facility. Spring is really the same as the fall unless your club is getting involved in a competitive spring league like NXT MId-Atlantic.


Not from NJ but I agree. It all depends on the quality which varies per grad year. For HS level players, if the team is going to top 'Recruiting Events' then paying in between that rate is Fair. Here on LI though, there are a couple teams that charge 4k which is insane. Do you due diligence to see what events and like the previous poster wrote, also check the quantity of practices in the Fall, Winter & Spring/Summer however, from what I have seen changed over the past 4 years, more teams are not really offering Fall practices and are primarily charging for the Winter-Summer with an option to pay for the Fall.

Not sure if NJ teams are doing the same but would be curious to know.


Some sell it as a complete package, others offer it a la carte for the off-season. Having to buy into the whole year seems contrary to the concept of wanting to encourage multi-sport athletes. As stated earlier, the biggest push has been with respect to competitive box, the number of clubs participating is growing fast. NJ has a lot of talent, but not the participation numbers like LI - competition is more fierce for spots on top LI clubs, so the top LI clubs have more leverage to push a costly all-in year round package.


Excellent perspective however, LI is saturated with teams so with a plethora of alternatives, I can't comprehend why people pay some programs like fl$ & Igloo 4k when there are teams significantly cheaper and better


People tend to get sucked in by the big name instead of what may be the best situation for their kid. 91 recently made a push into NJ, I'm curious to see how that plays out. The 91 model has not had close to the same success in markets outside of LI, but people hear the name and think that their kid will be the next Bandits all-star.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/02/18 02:27 PM
Anyone know anything about Thunder Lacrosse? My 2024 is looking for a team and his friends suggested Thunder.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/04/18 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about Thunder Lacrosse? My 2024 is looking for a team and his friends suggested Thunder.


What part of NJ are you in, and what level does your son play at. If your son is an A or AA level player, I do not think that Thunder is a club that you should be looking at, otherwise, peer recommendations are always a great start.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/13/18 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Stickcheck
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LiLaxDad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJLaxr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can everyone share the fees they are paying for club lacrosse? Looking for full-year, less travel costs.


Seems that the quality teams all charge in between $2,300 and $3,000 for an all-inclusive price year round.


Probably a fair estimate, maybe higher in a few instances, but the real issue is value for the money. While every team does their standard 4 summer tournaments, the question is what are you getting for that money off-season. Fall tournaments are few and far between, so more a means to keep the lacrosse skills sharp. Winter is the big factor because you have some clubs that are very active playing competitive box, while other clubs simply run practices in a indoor facility. Spring is really the same as the fall unless your club is getting involved in a competitive spring league like NXT MId-Atlantic.


Not from NJ but I agree. It all depends on the quality which varies per grad year. For HS level players, if the team is going to top 'Recruiting Events' then paying in between that rate is Fair. Here on LI though, there are a couple teams that charge 4k which is insane. Do you due diligence to see what events and like the previous poster wrote, also check the quantity of practices in the Fall, Winter & Spring/Summer however, from what I have seen changed over the past 4 years, more teams are not really offering Fall practices and are primarily charging for the Winter-Summer with an option to pay for the Fall.

Not sure if NJ teams are doing the same but would be curious to know.


Some sell it as a complete package, others offer it a la carte for the off-season. Having to buy into the whole year seems contrary to the concept of wanting to encourage multi-sport athletes. As stated earlier, the biggest push has been with respect to competitive box, the number of clubs participating is growing fast. NJ has a lot of talent, but not the participation numbers like LI - competition is more fierce for spots on top LI clubs, so the top LI clubs have more leverage to push a costly all-in year round package.


Excellent perspective however, LI is saturated with teams so with a plethora of alternatives, I can't comprehend why people pay some programs like fl$ & Igloo 4k when there are teams significantly cheaper and better



Have you seen Igloo's uniforms? Fire!!!! That's where the money goes. But seriously, their unis are straight fire.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/13/18 04:26 PM


Probably a fair estimate, maybe higher in a few instances, but the real issue is value for the money. While every team does their standard 4 summer tournaments, the question is what are you getting for that money off-season. Fall tournaments are few and far between, so more a means to keep the lacrosse skills sharp. Winter is the big factor because you have some clubs that are very active playing competitive box, while other clubs simply run practices in a indoor facility. Spring is really the same as the fall unless your club is getting involved in a competitive spring league like NXT MId-Atlantic. [/quote]

Not from NJ but I agree. It all depends on the quality which varies per grad year. For HS level players, if the team is going to top 'Recruiting Events' then paying in between that rate is Fair. Here on LI though, there are a couple teams that charge 4k which is insane. Do you due diligence to see what events and like the previous poster wrote, also check the quantity of practices in the Fall, Winter & Spring/Summer however, from what I have seen changed over the past 4 years, more teams are not really offering Fall practices and are primarily charging for the Winter-Summer with an option to pay for the Fall.

Not sure if NJ teams are doing the same but would be curious to know. [/quote]

Some sell it as a complete package, others offer it a la carte for the off-season. Having to buy into the whole year seems contrary to the concept of wanting to encourage multi-sport athletes. As stated earlier, the biggest push has been with respect to competitive box, the number of clubs participating is growing fast. NJ has a lot of talent, but not the participation numbers like LI - competition is more fierce for spots on top LI clubs, so the top LI clubs have more leverage to push a costly all-in year round package. [/quote]

Excellent perspective however, LI is saturated with teams so with a plethora of alternatives, I can't comprehend why people pay some programs like fl$ & Igloo 4k when there are teams significantly cheaper and better
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Have you seen Igloo's uniforms? Fire!!!! That's where the money goes. But seriously, their unis are straight fire.[/quote]

The uniforms cost $50 at best...now you just need to account for the remaining $3,950..but glad to have your in-depth persepctive
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/13/18 04:37 PM
NJ is a mess, too many teams and not enough good coaches. two and half good '21 teams, one '22, 2 if you include Mountain Lakes and one '23 team. younger teams are even a bigger mess.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/13/18 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NJ is a mess, too many teams and not enough good coaches. two and half good '21 teams, one '22, 2 if you include Mountain Lakes and one '23 team. younger teams are even a bigger mess.


I would be curious to know what '21, '22 and '23 teams you are talking about, and not sure where ML as a town program enters the discussion, but yes, the market is saturated right now and there are a lot of bad, or simply inexperienced, coaches out there, but the top teams at there respective age groups are very good
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/14/18 11:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NJ is a mess, too many teams and not enough good coaches. two and half good '21 teams, one '22, 2 if you include Mountain Lakes and one '23 team. younger teams are even a bigger mess.


I would be curious to know what '21, '22 and '23 teams you are talking about, and not sure where ML as a town program enters the discussion, but yes, the market is saturated right now and there are a lot of bad, or simply inexperienced, coaches out there, but the top teams at there respective age groups are very good


ML beats every '22 team but LE Elite.. that is how they enter the discussion.
Posted By: FluxCapacitor Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/14/18 01:38 PM
What are the options in Northern Bergen?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/14/18 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NJ is a mess, too many teams and not enough good coaches. two and half good '21 teams, one '22, 2 if you include Mountain Lakes and one '23 team. younger teams are even a bigger mess.


I would be curious to know what '21, '22 and '23 teams you are talking about, and not sure where ML as a town program enters the discussion, but yes, the market is saturated right now and there are a lot of bad, or simply inexperienced, coaches out there, but the top teams at there respective age groups are very good


ML beats every '22 team but LE Elite.. that is how they enter the discussion.


Interesting, didn't know that ML plays club programs...who are the '2l and '23 teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/15/18 12:22 AM
ML is a great town team that beats sub-par club teams in lower level tournaments. No way does it beat LE Elite, BBL Black, Tri-State or South Jersey Black Storm. Laker Future even got beat by Red and Black (new Team 91 West team).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/15/18 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ML is a great town team that beats sub-par club teams in lower level tournaments. No way does it beat LE Elite, BBL Black, Tri-State or South Jersey Black Storm. Laker Future even got beat by Red and Black (new Team 91 West team).


ML is a good, not great, town team...and I have seen a few teams handle them pretty easily in the town tournaments...definitely no match for LE, BBL, Tri-State or SJBS
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/18/18 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NJ is a mess, too many teams and not enough good coaches. two and half good '21 teams, one '22, 2 if you include Mountain Lakes and one '23 team. younger teams are even a bigger mess.


I would be curious to know what '21, '22 and '23 teams you are talking about, and not sure where ML as a town program enters the discussion, but yes, the market is saturated right now and there are a lot of bad, or simply inexperienced, coaches out there, but the top teams at there respective age groups are very good


ML beats every '22 team but LE Elite.. that is how they enter the discussion.


What other top NJ club team have they played
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/18/18 03:30 PM
Not a good showing for Leading Edge this weekend. If you remove their '19 & '20 teams they only had one win all weekend. Not good for the "Best Club in NJ"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/18/18 06:49 PM
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/18/18 07:15 PM
Their 21 team lost to two pretty good teams in Mesa and 91
They always field competitive teams and they don’t play a soft schedule
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/18/18 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a good showing for Leading Edge this weekend. If you remove their '19 & '20 teams they only had one win all weekend. Not good for the "Best Club in NJ"

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.


It's foolish to simply state that one club is better than the other as a general rule. We all know who the top clubs are in NJ and each seems to have their own dominant teams at certain age groups. In all fairness (and not a LE parent), while I do not think that the LE2023 team is the top 2023 team in the State, keep in mind who they were playing this weekend, not really a soft schedule.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/19/18 12:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.


Are you staying to are giving up on the '23?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/19/18 02:08 PM
I wouldn't say give up. LE always pulls it together and has great teams eventually. Just a down year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/19/18 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.


Are you staying to are giving up on the '23?


I have no skin in the game. I'm with a different club but heard the LE 23's had a rough go of it, even against the less competitive teams. With their NLF schedule, it's going to be tough to compete this summer. They always seem to figure it out though, once they get to high school. I wouldn't count them out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/19/18 04:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.


Are you staying to are giving up on the '23?


I have no skin in the game. I'm with a different club but heard the LE 23's had a rough go of it, even against the less competitive teams. With their NLF schedule, it's going to be tough to compete this summer. They always seem to figure it out though, once they get to high school. I wouldn't count them out.


What happened to the 2023 team, did kids leave for another program,,,coaching change
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/19/18 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.


Are you staying to are giving up on the '23?


I have no skin in the game. I'm with a different club but heard the LE 23's had a rough go of it, even against the less competitive teams. With their NLF schedule, it's going to be tough to compete this summer. They always seem to figure it out though, once they get to high school. I wouldn't count them out.


What happened to the 2023 team, did kids leave for another program,,,coaching change


Heard they left for other clubs. Only the 2023’s. Not sure why.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/19/18 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.


Are you staying to are giving up on the '23?


I have no skin in the game. I'm with a different club but heard the LE 23's had a rough go of it, even against the less competitive teams. With their NLF schedule, it's going to be tough to compete this summer. They always seem to figure it out though, once they get to high school. I wouldn't count them out.


What happened to the 2023 team, did kids leave for another program,,,coaching change


Heard they left for other clubs. Only the 2023’s. Not sure why.


I'm sure a core group decided that the grass was green someplace else, and then other kids started jumping ship...or maybe they were not interested in the 91 affiliation and playing the NLF tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 11:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE2023 was blown up and they had to scrape together a team this year. Lots of first year players. They probably won't win a game this summer. LE2024 is solid and they can build up each year going forward. The truth is that LE doesn't really focus on winning until high school and there is no better program in the state of NJ at that level. They play the best competition so wins/losses isn't the best metric.


Are you staying to are giving up on the '23?


I have no skin in the game. I'm with a different club but heard the LE 23's had a rough go of it, even against the less competitive teams. With their NLF schedule, it's going to be tough to compete this summer. They always seem to figure it out though, once they get to high school. I wouldn't count them out.


What happened to the 2023 team, did kids leave for another program,,,coaching change


Heard they left for other clubs. Only the 2023’s. Not sure why.


I'm sure a core group decided that the grass was green someplace else, and then other kids started jumping ship...or maybe they were not interested in the 91 affiliation and playing the NLF tournaments.


Moved to Blue Star. Not sure if they would move back. Blue Star is a good program just too many players. They have an amazing '23 goalie, that only plays half the game. Watched FCA come back and beat them while he was on the sideline.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 01:56 PM


Are you staying to are giving up on the '23? [/quote]

I have no skin in the game. I'm with a different club but heard the LE 23's had a rough go of it, even against the less competitive teams. With their NLF schedule, it's going to be tough to compete this summer. They always seem to figure it out though, once they get to high school. I wouldn't count them out.[/quote]

What happened to the 2023 team, did kids leave for another program,,,coaching change[/quote]

Heard they left for other clubs. Only the 2023’s. Not sure why. [/quote]

I'm sure a core group decided that the grass was green someplace else, and then other kids started jumping ship...or maybe they were not interested in the 91 affiliation and playing the NLF tournaments.[/quote]

Moved to Blue Star. Not sure if they would move back. Blue Star is a good program just too many players. They have an amazing '23 goalie, that only plays half the game. Watched FCA come back and beat them while he was on the sideline.[/quote]

BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 02:38 PM
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.[/quote]

Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 03:03 PM
I saw the NJ Riot North 2019 team play this weekend at the Big 12 North American Club Lacrosse Championship and they have a darn good squad with a deep rotation of middies who can dodge and shoot the ball in the 90s and are very well coached team. Anyone else see them play and have any thoughts on them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.[/quote]

The single A bracket is a challenging format for the A teams, BL and Freedom are typically in AA brackets. Perhaps BL brought in some reinforcements for Sunday
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 06:03 PM
Look out for O2 Lacrosse..bunch of studs on those teams and a first year program...2022's ran the table at the NXT Meltdown this past weekend taking home the Cup! Keep your eyes out for them as getting to the top sooner rather then later.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look out for O2 Lacrosse..bunch of studs on those teams and a first year program...2022's ran the table at the NXT Meltdown this past weekend taking home the Cup! Keep your eyes out for them as getting to the top sooner rather then later.


Mad Dog beat Blue Star in the '22 A bracket. They do win best post of the week, a Great Fortnite reference by their coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 06:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look out for O2 Lacrosse..bunch of studs on those teams and a first year program...2022's ran the table at the NXT Meltdown this past weekend taking home the Cup! Keep your eyes out for them as getting to the top sooner rather then later.


I respect the enthusiasm, but they are playing B brackets, the game is a lot different in the A and AA brackets...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/20/18 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.[/quote]

Seems pretty accurate. Where are Tri-State Shore kids from? Went to one of their tryouts and it was abismal. Do the current team members not tryout? They certainly have good results so not sure what was up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.[/quote]

Seems pretty accurate. Where are Tri-State Shore kids from? Went to one of their tryouts and it was abismal. Do the current team members not tryout? They certainly have good results so not sure what was up.
[/quote]

It seem that BroLove was a different team from Saturday to Sunday... TriState shore are out of North Jersey area. There is also a TriState Central team based out of Rutgers area.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 12:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.[/quote]

Seems pretty accurate. Where are Tri-State Shore kids from? Went to one of their tryouts and it was abismal. Do the current team members not tryout? They certainly have good results so not sure what was up.
[/quote]

RFH kids that have been together for years. The '23 team is controlled by a group of Dads, old Shore Stars. They shopped the team and Tri-State took them. They started a Tri-State Shore '24 & '25. The '24s all jumped ship last year and the '25 have a couple of players. The top '25s will end up at Mad Dog, they have the best '25 team.
Not sure how long Tri-State Shore will last, would not be surprised if you don't see a few of the '23 move to LE next year based on what LE offers at the 8th-grade level and the other players start playing with Tri-State north.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.


Seems pretty accurate. Where are Tri-State Shore kids from? Went to one of their tryouts and it was abismal. Do the current team members not tryout? They certainly have good results so not sure what was up.
[/quote]

RFH kids that have been together for years. The '23 team is controlled by a group of Dads, old Shore Stars. They shopped the team and Tri-State took them. They started a Tri-State Shore '24 & '25. The '24s all jumped ship last year and the '25 have a couple of players. The top '25s will end up at Mad Dog, they have the best '25 team.
Not sure how long Tri-State Shore will last, would not be surprised if you don't see a few of the '23 move to LE next year based on what LE offers at the 8th-grade level and the other players start playing with Tri-State north.
[/quote]

Monmouth County team....heavy with RFH kids, but a few other local kids mixed in...dads are not part of coaching mix anymore...as for LE, not sure why a kid would leave for an inferior 2023 team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 04:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.


Tri-State '23 have kids that can't play for their WSYL team this year. Their best WSYL player last year was a LE kid. WSYL shouldn't anyone measuring stick.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.


Tri-State '23 have kids that can't play for their WSYL team this year. Their best WSYL player last year was a LE kid. WSYL shouldn't anyone measuring stick.

Age matters. If a team is full of re-classed kids it's a sham. Worse than steroids. For those of you who choose not to cheat - make sure you put your kid on at team where they can have fun and develop as players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.


Tri-State '23 have kids that can't play for their WSYL team this year. Their best WSYL player last year was a LE kid. WSYL shouldn't anyone measuring stick.


Is re-classed really the correct terminology, or are we simply talking about 7th graders that were born before 9/1/2004. A lot of teams have a few kids that miss the cut-off, but they are not "reclassed" in the sense of a holdback. Either way, I agree that the WSYL teams are probably not a good measure of the regular BBL vs. Tri-State 2023 teams, but I think that, putting aside the WSYL teams,the suggestion that they are the top two 2023 teams in the state is pretty accurate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.


Tri-State '23 have kids that can't play for their WSYL team this year. Their best WSYL player last year was a LE kid. WSYL shouldn't anyone measuring stick.

I will give credit to BBL for holding their tryouts in August. They have balls. All their parents will have to sign on with other clubs and wait it out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/21/18 06:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.


Tri-State '23 have kids that can't play for their WSYL team this year. Their best WSYL player last year was a LE kid. WSYL shouldn't anyone measuring stick.

Age matters. If a team is full of re-classed kids it's a sham. Worse than steroids. For those of you who choose not to cheat - make sure you put your kid on at team where they can have fun and develop as players.


Agreed - but reclassed is a much different situation than kids that do not make WSYL cut-off - so be careful about suggesting that a team has reclassed kids without knowing the facts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/22/18 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.


Tri-State '23 have kids that can't play for their WSYL team this year. Their best WSYL player last year was a LE kid. WSYL shouldn't anyone measuring stick.

Age matters. If a team is full of re-classed kids it's a sham. Worse than steroids. For those of you who choose not to cheat - make sure you put your kid on at team where they can have fun and develop as players.


Agreed - but reclassed is a much different situation than kids that do not make WSYL cut-off - so be careful about suggesting that a team has reclassed kids without knowing the facts

Yes. The WSYL is more lenient. In order to compete you must have been born after 9/1/2004. Anyone born before that date and playing on a 2023 team is a re class. They even leave a little room. I believe the cutoff in our town is October 1. I believe everything should be strictly age based.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/22/18 12:21 PM
Anyone know anything about Blue Star at the middle school levels? They have 3 teams at '23 when other clubs are struggling at that age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/22/18 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about Blue Star at the middle school levels? They have 3 teams at '23 when other clubs are struggling at that age.

The buzz has not been good this year. I know several parents and they are very unhappy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/22/18 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little

Take a look at the team without the re-classed kids. Tri-State beat them in the qualifiers. I spoke to one of the players and he was complaining that they had to pull up younger players to fill the void.


Tri-State '23 have kids that can't play for their WSYL team this year. Their best WSYL player last year was a LE kid. WSYL shouldn't anyone measuring stick.

Age matters. If a team is full of re-classed kids it's a sham. Worse than steroids. For those of you who choose not to cheat - make sure you put your kid on at team where they can have fun and develop as players.


Agreed - but reclassed is a much different situation than kids that do not make WSYL cut-off - so be careful about suggesting that a team has reclassed kids without knowing the facts

Yes. The WSYL is more lenient. In order to compete you must have been born after 9/1/2004. Anyone born before that date and playing on a 2023 team is a re class. They even leave a little room. I believe the cutoff in our town is October 1. I believe everything should be strictly age based.


Seems kind of odd that the re-class conversation is coming up in the NJ forum, it is not that common in NJ lacrosse... although I suspect that it may become more prevalent in the future (unless things change to age-based)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/22/18 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about Blue Star at the middle school levels? They have 3 teams at '23 when other clubs are struggling at that age.


As with any other club, it is difficult to group all the teams under one umbrella, most clubs are very different at each age group
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/22/18 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about Blue Star at the middle school levels? They have 3 teams at '23 when other clubs are struggling at that age.


As with any other club, it is difficult to group all the teams under one umbrella, most clubs are very different at each age group


So, basically an A team, a B team and a money grab team. No team in new jersey can carry 3 strong teams at any age level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/22/18 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.


Seems pretty accurate. Where are Tri-State Shore kids from? Went to one of their tryouts and it was abismal. Do the current team members not tryout? They certainly have good results so not sure what was up.


RFH kids that have been together for years. The '23 team is controlled by a group of Dads, old Shore Stars. They shopped the team and Tri-State took them. They started a Tri-State Shore '24 & '25. The '24s all jumped ship last year and the '25 have a couple of players. The top '25s will end up at Mad Dog, they have the best '25 team.
Not sure how long Tri-State Shore will last, would not be surprised if you don't see a few of the '23 move to LE next year based on what LE offers at the 8th-grade level and the other players start playing with Tri-State north.
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Monmouth County team....heavy with RFH kids, but a few other local kids mixed in...dads are not part of coaching mix anymore...as for LE, not sure why a kid would leave for an inferior 2023 team[/quote]

RFH has some strong ties to LE. LE will not be inferior within 2 months
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/24/18 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS must have a pretty solid team, they got a quality win over Brotherly Love last weekend...definitely one of the top 2 or 3 2023 teams out of NJ.


Not to take anything away from BS but Brotherly Love was a different team on Sunday. Freedom & Brotherly Love were the best two teams and at another level.

Mad Dog looked good until their top pole broke his arm in the FCA game. Hard for 13-year-olds to play after watching a teammates forearm snap.

Tri-State Shore & BBL are the top teams. You can put the rest in one big group after that.


Seems pretty accurate. Where are Tri-State Shore kids from? Went to one of their tryouts and it was abismal. Do the current team members not tryout? They certainly have good results so not sure what was up.


RFH kids that have been together for years. The '23 team is controlled by a group of Dads, old Shore Stars. They shopped the team and Tri-State took them. They started a Tri-State Shore '24 & '25. The '24s all jumped ship last year and the '25 have a couple of players. The top '25s will end up at Mad Dog, they have the best '25 team.
Not sure how long Tri-State Shore will last, would not be surprised if you don't see a few of the '23 move to LE next year based on what LE offers at the 8th-grade level and the other players start playing with Tri-State north.


Monmouth County team....heavy with RFH kids, but a few other local kids mixed in...dads are not part of coaching mix anymore...as for LE, not sure why a kid would leave for an inferior 2023 team[/quote]

RFH has some strong ties to LE. LE will not be inferior within 2 months[/quote]

Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/25/18 02:29 PM


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh. [/quote]

They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/25/18 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about Blue Star at the middle school levels? They have 3 teams at '23 when other clubs are struggling at that age.


'23 BS had 18 kids on the sidelines this weekend. Not sure how parents can be happy with playtime.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/25/18 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team[/quote]

Maybe, but the world will never know. Interested to see how they do next weekend without 14 year olds.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/25/18 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team


Maybe, but the world will never know. Interested to see how they do next weekend without 14 year olds.[/quote]

They have a pretty tough first day at the WSYL, the final standings at the qualifier really make a difference with the championship schedule.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/26/18 01:22 AM
What’s up with all these random Team 91 teams (South, West and East)? And how does this impact LE Elite? I guess brand doesn’t matter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/26/18 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s up with all these random Team 91 teams (South, West and East)? And how does this impact LE Elite? I guess brand doesn’t matter.


It will just be another group of second-tier, or below, 91 teams...while there are a few instances of success by youth 91 teams outside of Long Island, 91 is not the place that top NJ youth lacrosse players will consider. That being said, when it comes to high school, there is no question that LE Elite has, and will continue to have, excellent high school aged teams. At the youth level, would my kid play for 91 Bandits or 91 Crush, sure...but not for the product being offered at the youth level in NJ, or the second tier 91 teams elsewhere like 91 warriors. The south team is simply the former LE South team that has never been competitive, even in the B bracket, and I have not heard much about Red and Black which will make up 91 west.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/29/18 07:37 PM
Any other '23 Blue Star kids jumping the over populated ship?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/30/18 11:48 AM
MV has bad karma. Blue star is founded on deception
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/02/18 05:38 PM
Wow. BBL got smoked in their first game at the WSYL. 13 to 4.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/03/18 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. BBL got smoked in their first game at the WSYL. 13 to 4.


Not a surprise. They have a bunch of older kids on their '23 team who didn't qualify for this tourney. Average team once they play age appropriate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/03/18 12:35 PM
Can anyone tell me who coaches the 2024 Mad Dog Squad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/03/18 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone tell me who coaches the 2024 Mad Dog Squad.


Someone said Sean Cunningham, Manasquan HS, will be picking them up next year. He has the '22s but cannot coach them when they get into high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/05/18 12:35 PM
Can anyone tell me why Tri-State is only sending their 26/27 teams to their own tournament?

Why would Tri-State & Leading Edge have events on the same weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/05/18 03:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone tell me why Tri-State is only sending their 26/27 teams to their own tournament?

Why would Tri-State & Leading Edge have events on the same weekend?


TriState is sending more than just their '26 but agree not sure why on the same weekend!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/06/18 07:01 PM
I'm I the only one who is just totally mind blown by how money grubbing these clubs have become? As the emails land in my mailbox I vomit a little each time.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/06/18 09:58 PM
I think a $2,250 price range is fair because they have costs (coaches, tournaments, uniforms, hotels, insurance, fields, etc) but anything above that especially in the 3s or even 4s in straight robbery and insane how they get away with it. There is a NEW club on LI and they are charging 3rd graders over 2300 and with younger kids, the tournaments are much cheaper so its crazy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm I the only one who is just totally mind blown by how money grubbing these clubs have become? As the emails land in my mailbox I vomit a little each time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/07/18 02:27 AM
Actually, I will pay a lot for quality coaching and good organization - but the amount of expansion of these clubs takes away from the core focus. Core teams. They get greedy quick. Even taking large sums of money from parents in order to get their kid on a specific team. Many of these club teams are under performing - yet they are expanding. Don't get me wrong. There are a couple of people with their heads in the right place -- but buyer beware.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/07/18 10:11 PM
The costs are high, but many clubs will work with you. If you think about it annually, 200$ a month is nothing compared to tennis lessons, golf lessons. And at least it’s all pretty local (tournaments within a few hours) and at reasonable hours. Imagine hockey.

I don’t have girls so don’t know about gymnastics and other sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/09/18 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone tell me why Tri-State is only sending their 26/27 teams to their own tournament?

Why would Tri-State & Leading Edge have events on the same weekend?


TriState is sending more than just their '26 but agree not sure why on the same weekend!


Different demographics, LE has many of the NLF teams
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/12/18 10:58 PM
Which Riot program is typically stronger from top to bottom ? Morris or North ? Or does it vary on grad year? Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/12/18 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team[/quote]


Interesting point about BBL, looks like the BBL North team played True National on Sunday at Tri-lax final and got beat pretty good at 11-3, the following day at Naptown, BBL Elite team lost 13-2 to the same True National team. North team must be a new additional to the BBL group. Different kids or mixed team from Elite?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/13/18 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team



Interesting point about BBL, looks like the BBL North team played True National on Sunday at Tri-lax final and got beat pretty good at 11-3, the following day at Naptown, BBL Elite team lost 13-2 to the same True National team. North team must be a new additional to the BBL group. Different kids or mixed team from Elite?[/quote]
90% of parents with boys born in the summer hold their boys in kindergarten so enough with the WSYL cutoff being some magical date.

I have no kid that plays for BBL and was at Naptown. BBL looked like a non-hold back team, their big kids had baby faces and moved like 7th graders. They might have a couple of summer birthdays but Ture, Dukes, Hawks and Team Baltimore are at a different level. Even the team from Texas that was not good had 10+ holdbacks.

BBL is one of the top '23 teams in NJ.

It would be interesting if the NJ club owners could do what's best for the kids and start a Sunday spring league. Until NJs top clubs & players break away from town lacrosse they will never compete with the top teams in Maryland. At least provide additional opportunities to play at a high level but that would require effort from the clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/13/18 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team



Interesting point about BBL, looks like the BBL North team played True National on Sunday at Tri-lax final and got beat pretty good at 11-3, the following day at Naptown, BBL Elite team lost 13-2 to the same True National team. North team must be a new additional to the BBL group. Different kids or mixed team from Elite?

90% of parents with boys born in the summer hold their boys in kindergarten so enough with the WSYL cutoff being some magical date.

I have no kid that plays for BBL and was at Naptown. BBL looked like a non-hold back team, their big kids had baby faces and moved like 7th graders. They might have a couple of summer birthdays but Ture, Dukes, Hawks and Team Baltimore are at a different level. Even the team from Texas that was not good had 10+ holdbacks.

BBL is one of the top '23 teams in NJ.

It would be interesting if the NJ club owners could do what's best for the kids and start a Sunday spring league. Until NJs top clubs & players break away from town lacrosse they will never compete with the top teams in Maryland. At least provide additional opportunities to play at a high level but that would require effort from the clubs.
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Great idea, but none of the NJ clubs want to risk losing players to another club. The market is so diluted right now that it is hard to assemble a high level competitive team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/13/18 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team



Interesting point about BBL, looks like the BBL North team played True National on Sunday at Tri-lax final and got beat pretty good at 11-3, the following day at Naptown, BBL Elite team lost 13-2 to the same True National team. North team must be a new additional to the BBL group. Different kids or mixed team from Elite?

90% of parents with boys born in the summer hold their boys in kindergarten so enough with the WSYL cutoff being some magical date.

I have no kid that plays for BBL and was at Naptown. BBL looked like a non-hold back team, their big kids had baby faces and moved like 7th graders. They might have a couple of summer birthdays but Ture, Dukes, Hawks and Team Baltimore are at a different level. Even the team from Texas that was not good had 10+ holdbacks.

BBL is one of the top '23 teams in NJ.

It would be interesting if the NJ club owners could do what's best for the kids and start a Sunday spring league. Until NJs top clubs & players break away from town lacrosse they will never compete with the top teams in Maryland. At least provide additional opportunities to play at a high level but that would require effort from the clubs.
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The Sunday league would be great and I'm sure it would succeed. I'm sure the concern is the town teams would slowly die off. The concern for many would be an escalation of club fees to the point it gets unreachable for many.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 10:31 AM
Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.


That "town team" is way better than any NJ club team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.


That "town team" is way better than any NJ club team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.


That "town team" is way better than any NJ club team.


That was an A level LI town team playing in a B tournament. LE 2023 is not, and has not been for the last few years, a competitive team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.


That "town team" is way better than any NJ club team.


That was an A level LI town team playing in a B tournament. LE 2023 is not, and has not been for the last few years, a competitive team.


Why do you care?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.


That "town team" is way better than any NJ club team.


That was an A level LI town team playing in a B tournament. LE 2023 is not, and has not been for the last few years, a competitive team.


Why do you care?


Because the results are being used to draw the conclusion that 3 villages is better than any NJ club team, simply not the case
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.


That "town team" is way better than any NJ club team.


That was an A level LI town team playing in a B tournament. LE 2023 is not, and has not been for the last few years, a competitive team.


Why do you care?


Because the results are being used to draw the conclusion that 3 villages is better than any NJ club team, simply not the case[/quote

Sorry to break it to you, but they are. BBL might give them a game but I'd say the Ward Melville kids are better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team



Interesting point about BBL, looks like the BBL North team played True National on Sunday at Tri-lax final and got beat pretty good at 11-3, the following day at Naptown, BBL Elite team lost 13-2 to the same True National team. North team must be a new additional to the BBL group. Different kids or mixed team from Elite?

90% of parents with boys born in the summer hold their boys in kindergarten so enough with the WSYL cutoff being some magical date.

I have no kid that plays for BBL and was at Naptown. BBL looked like a non-hold back team, their big kids had baby faces and moved like 7th graders. They might have a couple of summer birthdays but Ture, Dukes, Hawks and Team Baltimore are at a different level. Even the team from Texas that was not good had 10+ holdbacks.

BBL is one of the top '23 teams in NJ.

It would be interesting if the NJ club owners could do what's best for the kids and start a Sunday spring league. Until NJs top clubs & players break away from town lacrosse they will never compete with the top teams in Maryland. At least provide additional opportunities to play at a high level but that would require effort from the clubs.


BBL def has holdbacks but at normal levels after WSYL. 100% right about other teams that are dominated by holdbacks. They don't even recognize holdbacks as a term, their normal is just way older kids. Sorry state of affairs-- clubs know they just older, bigger boys to win. Hope BBL doesnt chase after it but that model works for wins.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/16/18 10:46 PM
What happened to Tri-State at 2023 National Championship? 1-3 and they lost to 2Way who got beat by both Blue Star and Mad Dog this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/17/18 01:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, BBL2023 getting into the holdback thing. Good team but sheesh.


They have a good team, but Blue Hen A bracket was filled with a bunch of mediocre teams...BBL could beat them all with their WSYL team



Interesting point about BBL, looks like the BBL North team played True National on Sunday at Tri-lax final and got beat pretty good at 11-3, the following day at Naptown, BBL Elite team lost 13-2 to the same True National team. North team must be a new additional to the BBL group. Different kids or mixed team from Elite?

90% of parents with boys born in the summer hold their boys in kindergarten so enough with the WSYL cutoff being some magical date.

I have no kid that plays for BBL and was at Naptown. BBL looked like a non-hold back team, their big kids had baby faces and moved like 7th graders. They might have a couple of summer birthdays but Ture, Dukes, Hawks and Team Baltimore are at a different level. Even the team from Texas that was not good had 10+ holdbacks.

BBL is one of the top '23 teams in NJ.

It would be interesting if the NJ club owners could do what's best for the kids and start a Sunday spring league. Until NJs top clubs & players break away from town lacrosse they will never compete with the top teams in Maryland. At least provide additional opportunities to play at a high level but that would require effort from the clubs.


Maybe 90% of rich white kids who will probably play lacrosse get held back if they were born in the summer. For the rest of the population, they don’t. Bottom line - If your kid was born before the school year starts, they’re a holdback. Not saying it isn’t in the best interest for the kid, some need it. It’s just something that needs perspective. If your kid (or kids on your team) is/are in that category, just be mindful that they have a short term advantage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/17/18 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Tri-State at 2023 National Championship? 1-3 and they lost to 2Way who got beat by both Blue Star and Mad Dog this summer.


They did fine. Why is everyone obsessed with wins? These kids are 13 and probably playing against older kids. They more than held their own.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/17/18 04:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw results of bash at beach tourney, leading edge got spanked in final championship game by a town team on LI.


Playing 5 games in one day with a 13 man roster takes its toll, particularly against a Ward Melville team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/17/18 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Tri-State at 2023 National Championship? 1-3 and they lost to 2Way who got beat by both Blue Star and Mad Dog this summer.


They did fine. Why is everyone obsessed with wins? These kids are 13 and probably playing against older kids. They more than held their own.


So true, they play on age and almost beat Express...probably a BBL parent looking for some validation that they are the greatest team in NJ, guess what, nobody cares
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/17/18 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Tri-State at 2023 National Championship? 1-3 and they lost to 2Way who got beat by both Blue Star and Mad Dog this summer.


They did fine. Why is everyone obsessed with wins? These kids are 13 and probably playing against older kids. They more than held their own.


So true, they play on age and almost beat Express...probably a BBL parent looking for some validation that they are the greatest team in NJ, guess what, nobody cares


Anyone know what is going on with Tri-States tryouts? Are their AA teams coming out of Central, Shore or Both? The Instagram post was unclear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/18/18 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Tri-State at 2023 National Championship? 1-3 and they lost to 2Way who got beat by both Blue Star and Mad Dog this summer.


They did fine. Why is everyone obsessed with wins? These kids are 13 and probably playing against older kids. They more than held their own.


So true, they play on age and almost beat Express...probably a BBL parent looking for some validation that they are the greatest team in NJ, guess what, nobody cares


Anyone know what is going on with Tri-States tryouts? Are their AA teams coming out of Central, Shore or Both? The Instagram post was unclear.


AA teams will pull top kids from regional teams (i.e. Central, Shore, etc.) on to one centralized team, plus any additions from tryouts. Regional teams will stay intact, but will probably play A schedule. Hope that helps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/18 03:55 PM
Agree. They play down a grade in tournaments
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/18 04:15 PM
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/18 07:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.



So it started that they can beat any NJ club team... now we should remember that this is a town team from of a town of about 4k people...things have certainly changed...not one of the NJ teams listed is considered a top NJ club team....I believe that Mad Dog is the only team that plays A bracket tournaments, and they are average at best...the rest are B teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/18 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.



So it started that they can beat any NJ club team... now we should remember that this is a town team from of a town of about 4k people...things have certainly changed...not one of the NJ teams listed is considered a top NJ club team....I believe that Mad Dog is the only team that plays A bracket tournaments, and they are average at best...the rest are B teams


Correction...I see that you were referring to Mad Dog '22 team not '23 team, so no context there...but at the '23 level, BBL Elite and Tri-State Shore are typically the strongest teams out of NJ
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/28/18 11:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.



So it started that they can beat any NJ club team... now we should remember that this is a town team from of a town of about 4k people...things have certainly changed...not one of the NJ teams listed is considered a top NJ club team....I believe that Mad Dog is the only team that plays A bracket tournaments, and they are average at best...the rest are B teams


Correction...I see that you were referring to Mad Dog '22 team not '23 team, so no context there...but at the '23 level, BBL Elite and Tri-State Shore are typically the strongest teams out of NJ


And even those two aren’t very strong in the grand scheme of things.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/30/18 01:03 PM
Hey where can I get an pinion about joining leading edge young team (2026). I know they are known for older kids, is it better to wait?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/30/18 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.



So it started that they can beat any NJ club team... now we should remember that this is a town team from of a town of about 4k people...things have certainly changed...not one of the NJ teams listed is considered a top NJ club team....I believe that Mad Dog is the only team that plays A bracket tournaments, and they are average at best...the rest are B teams


Correction...I see that you were referring to Mad Dog '22 team not '23 team, so no context there...but at the '23 level, BBL Elite and Tri-State Shore are typically the strongest teams out of NJ


Tri-Stare Shore is dead, all kids moving to other teams or going to Tri-State Central
At '23 BBL Elite is the top team with Blue Star behind it. Blue Star will get better with new kids and if they trim their roster.
Leading Edge Elite was very weak but will be strong next year after 5 to 10 kids reclass from '22.
Tri-State all moving to central but major issues
Mad Dog '23 does play AA but loses 3rd game of day because of numbers, they are 3 to 5 players away from being a real AA team.
NJ Riot - AA team and A teams. Parents not on AA are unhappy. Not sure what parents are watching if they think their kids are AA.

Every club in NJ has issues. Parents all complain about the same things, outside of maybe BBL & Blue Star: Communication is a joke, lack of any player development and bottom 5 kids on the roster are a money grab.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/30/18 06:10 PM




Yes, heard about tri-state shore issues, there are some good players on that team, might be a solid central team if they hold on to the right players and get a few replacements
I agree BBL elite is looking like the front runner right now, the team has really improved this season
Not sure what to think about Blue Star, I heard that there were a ton of players on the team this year, might be some unhappy parents who decide to move on.
The real issue for the NJ teams is that, other than a few instances, they don't really play the holdback game, so it really puts them at a disadvantage playing in the AA national tournaments. I'm sure that you will see some clubs move towards playing kids down in order to compete, for example, how can a team like Leading Edge expect to compete in the NLF with on-age teams, it was not pretty this past summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/18 09:11 PM
It's better to wait until 7/8th or high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/18 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's better to wait until 7/8th or high school.


To reclass?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/18 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey where can I get an pinion about joining leading edge young team (2026). I know they are known for older kids, is it better to wait?


It's better to wait until 7/8th or high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/18 11:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's better to wait until 7/8th or high school.


To reclass?


No, to join Leading Edge.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/18 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's better to wait until 7/8th or high school.


To reclass?


No, to join Leading Edge.


8th grade seems to be the time to make the move if you are interested in LE, but unconfirmed rumor is that LE will be playing kids down a year, probably the only way they can compete in NLF
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/18 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.



So it started that they can beat any NJ club team... now we should remember that this is a town team from of a town of about 4k people...things have certainly changed...not one of the NJ teams listed is considered a top NJ club team....I believe that Mad Dog is the only team that plays A bracket tournaments, and they are average at best...the rest are B teams


Correction...I see that you were referring to Mad Dog '22 team not '23 team, so no context there...but at the '23 level, BBL Elite and Tri-State Shore are typically the strongest teams out of NJ


Tri-Stare Shore is dead, all kids moving to other teams or going to Tri-State Central
At '23 BBL Elite is the top team with Blue Star behind it. Blue Star will get better with new kids and if they trim their roster.
Leading Edge Elite was very weak but will be strong next year after 5 to 10 kids reclass from '22.
Tri-State all moving to central but major issues
Mad Dog '23 does play AA but loses 3rd game of day because of numbers, they are 3 to 5 players away from being a real AA team.
NJ Riot - AA team and A teams. Parents not on AA are unhappy. Not sure what parents are watching if they think their kids are AA.

Every club in NJ has issues. Parents all complain about the same things, outside of maybe BBL & Blue Star: Communication is a joke, lack of any player development and bottom 5 kids on the roster are a money grab.


Mad Dog plays some AA teams in tournaments when there is only one 2023 blended A division, if there is an AA and A bracket, Mad Dog plays A. No shame in playing A, but let's be honest. They will definitely get better with some player adjustments, but I do know that some people are turned off from Mad Dog because they rely heavily on local kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/18 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.



So it started that they can beat any NJ club team... now we should remember that this is a town team from of a town of about 4k people...things have certainly changed...not one of the NJ teams listed is considered a top NJ club team....I believe that Mad Dog is the only team that plays A bracket tournaments, and they are average at best...the rest are B teams


Correction...I see that you were referring to Mad Dog '22 team not '23 team, so no context there...but at the '23 level, BBL Elite and Tri-State Shore are typically the strongest teams out of NJ


Tri-Stare Shore is dead, all kids moving to other teams or going to Tri-State Central
At '23 BBL Elite is the top team with Blue Star behind it. Blue Star will get better with new kids and if they trim their roster.
Leading Edge Elite was very weak but will be strong next year after 5 to 10 kids reclass from '22.
Tri-State all moving to central but major issues
Mad Dog '23 does play AA but loses 3rd game of day because of numbers, they are 3 to 5 players away from being a real AA team.
NJ Riot - AA team and A teams. Parents not on AA are unhappy. Not sure what parents are watching if they think their kids are AA.

Every club in NJ has issues. Parents all complain about the same things, outside of maybe BBL & Blue Star: Communication is a joke, lack of any player development and bottom 5 kids on the roster are a money grab.


Mad Dog plays some AA teams in tournaments when there is only one 2023 blended A division, if there is an AA and A bracket, Mad Dog plays A. No shame in playing A, but let's be honest. They will definitely get better with some player adjustments, but I do know that some people are turned off from Mad Dog because they rely heavily on local kids.


And the other statement you make is that Mad Dog is 3-5 players away from being a real AA team, not an easy find in the market
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/18 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've seen the 23' beat O2, GSLA, NJLA , NJ Select LC, 3D Garden State ; Have seen the 22's beat Upper Level, GLSA, Team 11, LI Empire -Green and Mad Dog this year alone
Remember, this is a 'Town' team coming from a town of about 4k.



So it started that they can beat any NJ club team... now we should remember that this is a town team from of a town of about 4k people...things have certainly changed...not one of the NJ teams listed is considered a top NJ club team....I believe that Mad Dog is the only team that plays A bracket tournaments, and they are average at best...the rest are B teams


Correction...I see that you were referring to Mad Dog '22 team not '23 team, so no context there...but at the '23 level, BBL Elite and Tri-State Shore are typically the strongest teams out of NJ


Tri-Stare Shore is dead, all kids moving to other teams or going to Tri-State Central
At '23 BBL Elite is the top team with Blue Star behind it. Blue Star will get better with new kids and if they trim their roster.
Leading Edge Elite was very weak but will be strong next year after 5 to 10 kids reclass from '22.
Tri-State all moving to central but major issues
Mad Dog '23 does play AA but loses 3rd game of day because of numbers, they are 3 to 5 players away from being a real AA team.
NJ Riot - AA team and A teams. Parents not on AA are unhappy. Not sure what parents are watching if they think their kids are AA.

Every club in NJ has issues. Parents all complain about the same things, outside of maybe BBL & Blue Star: Communication is a joke, lack of any player development and bottom 5 kids on the roster are a money grab.


Mad Dog plays some AA teams in tournaments when there is only one 2023 blended A division, if there is an AA and A bracket, Mad Dog plays A. No shame in playing A, but let's be honest. They will definitely get better with some player adjustments, but I do know that some people are turned off from Mad Dog because they rely heavily on local kids.


And the other statement you make is that Mad Dog is 3-5 players away from being a real AA team, not an easy find in the market


You seem to be wired in at Mad Dog. Did they pick up any new players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/18 04:43 PM

Tri-Stare Shore is dead, all kids moving to other teams or going to Tri-State Central
At '23 BBL Elite is the top team with Blue Star behind it. Blue Star will get better with new kids and if they trim their roster.
Leading Edge Elite was very weak but will be strong next year after 5 to 10 kids reclass from '22.
Tri-State all moving to central but major issues
Mad Dog '23 does play AA but loses 3rd game of day because of numbers, they are 3 to 5 players away from being a real AA team.
NJ Riot - AA team and A teams. Parents not on AA are unhappy. Not sure what parents are watching if they think their kids are AA.

Every club in NJ has issues. Parents all complain about the same things, outside of maybe BBL & Blue Star: Communication is a joke, lack of any player development and bottom 5 kids on the roster are a money grab.
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Mad Dog plays some AA teams in tournaments when there is only one 2023 blended A division, if there is an AA and A bracket, Mad Dog plays A. No shame in playing A, but let's be honest. They will definitely get better with some player adjustments, but I do know that some people are turned off from Mad Dog because they rely heavily on local kids. [/quote]

And the other statement you make is that Mad Dog is 3-5 players away from being a real AA team, not an easy find in the market[/quote]

You seem to be wired in at Mad Dog. Did they pick up any new players? [/quote]

Not really wired into Mad Dog, but it is a small market, most people involved with club lacrosse in the area know what is going on with each team, and who the top players are, no idea if they picked anybody up after tryouts. Obviously, the best option for players would have been tri-state shore 2023 kids, but I haven't heard about any of them going to Mad Dog
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/18 12:46 PM
Any advice on what clubs to join for 2026? Is that too young to join a top club as I heard most of them turn over talent. My son is on a local club team(highschool coach) but did make a more competitive top club (not bbl).

For instance should we tryout for patriots or leading edge next year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/18 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any advice on what clubs to join for 2026? Is that too young to join a top club as I heard most of them turn over talent. My son is on a local club team(highschool coach) but did make a more competitive top club (not bbl).

For instance should we tryout for patriots or leading edge next year?


Probably not a huge deal right now, it seems that most people really start to evaluate their situation around 7th or 8th grade. Right now, if your kid is good enough to play for a top club, it is probably a good move, he will just get frustrated at a less competitive level and will stall in his development. I went through the same situation with my son and the move to a club that plays a tougher schedule was a huge positive for his development, but to be honest, it was an adjustment not being the top dog on a local club anymore, the game starts to move much faster and it gets a little more complicated because they will run more complex plays.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/18 06:02 PM
Thanks for the advice. Maybe we will stick with more low key for one more year. Even though he did get an offer to join a top club. I don’t want him
To burn out.

When did your son join a more competitive club. He had a lot of fun this past year with lost of playing time but also got annoyed because a bunch of the kids kind of goof off.

Do you think a top club won’t offer a stop next year (6th) if we turned down in 5th, seems most clubs like to mix up thier talent as kids get older anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/18 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks for the advice. Maybe we will stick with more low key for one more year. Even though he did get an offer to join a top club. I don’t want him
To burn out.

When did your son join a more competitive club. He had a lot of fun this past year with lost of playing time but also got annoyed because a bunch of the kids kind of goof off.

Do you think a top club won’t offer a stop next year (6th) if we turned down in 5th, seems most clubs like to mix up thier talent as kids get older anyway.


He did the change between 6th and 7th grade, it was the right opportunity at the right time. Every club has tryouts every year, so there is little chance that your son would not have an opportunity later on. As you can see by the posts above, there is a lot of moving around come eighth grade (along with reclassing, which seems to be a trend catching on in NJ) because kids are starting to think about high school, exposure, etc.. If your son is a good fit for a particular team, he will have a spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/18 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks for the advice. Maybe we will stick with more low key for one more year. Even though he did get an offer to join a top club. I don’t want him
To burn out.

When did your son join a more competitive club. He had a lot of fun this past year with lost of playing time but also got annoyed because a bunch of the kids kind of goof off.

Do you think a top club won’t offer a stop next year (6th) if we turned down in 5th, seems most clubs like to mix up thier talent as kids get older anyway.


If he has friends on the club team and you don't mind dropping the money let him play. He will enjoy playing against his club teammates in town.

The only downside to starting this young are the parents that like to coach from the sideline, that all stops in 7th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/09/18 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks for the advice. Maybe we will stick with more low key for one more year. Even though he did get an offer to join a top club. I don’t want him
To burn out.

When did your son join a more competitive club. He had a lot of fun this past year with lost of playing time but also got annoyed because a bunch of the kids kind of goof off.

Do you think a top club won’t offer a stop next year (6th) if we turned down in 5th, seems most clubs like to mix up thier talent as kids get older anyway.


If he has friends on the club team and you don't mind dropping the money let him play. He will enjoy playing against his club teammates in town.

The only downside to starting this young are the parents that like to coach from the sideline, that all stops in 7th grade.

Coaching from the sidelines stops at 7th grade?? Wishful thinking. Have you attended a MD tournament? I am not a fan of it but parents are experts well into HS and beyond.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/10/18 05:49 PM
What do you mean by playing kids down a year? And what is “reclass”?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/18 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you mean by playing kids down a year? And what is “reclass”?

Welcome to BOTC... "reclass" - kids repeat the 8th grade for sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/18 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you mean by playing kids down a year? And what is “reclass”?

Welcome to BOTC... "reclass" - kids repeat the 8th grade for sports.


For example, 2022 kids playing down at 2023 on Leading Edge. Not surprising that the NJ trend is starting with Leading Edge, they play in the NLF which is filled with teams known for their holdbacks.. Laxachussetts, Crabs, True, etc...most prevalent in Maryland with the kids intending to play at private lacrosse powerhouse high schools.
Anyone know how the NJ Swarm 2021 Team is or how they were last year?
Posted By: LaxMod Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/04/18 03:58 PM
NJ Swarm has 2 teams; one is 2020 and the other is 2021 & the program is ran by the Don Bosco Prep goalie coach. Small but solid program that is growing although they should merge with O2 Lacrosse considering they are all coaches at DBP and this would strengthen their teams.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/04/18 09:57 PM
Originally Posted by laxislife
NJ Swarm has 2 teams; one is 2020 and the other is 2021 & the program is ran by the Don Bosco Prep goalie coach. Small but solid program that is growing although they should merge with O2 Lacrosse considering they are all coaches at DBP and this would strengthen their teams.


I agree with O2 Lacrosse & NJ Swarm merging - 1) it makes sense with the DBP coaches which would be similar to Express but they don't just pull from St Anthony's, they also pull from Chaminade & Kellenberg and 2) O2 folded a couple of age groups such as their 2021s so by these two merging, the team would be much more competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/06/18 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
Originally Posted by laxislife
NJ Swarm has 2 teams; one is 2020 and the other is 2021 & the program is ran by the Don Bosco Prep goalie coach. Small but solid program that is growing although they should merge with O2 Lacrosse considering they are all coaches at DBP and this would strengthen their teams.


I agree with O2 Lacrosse & NJ Swarm merging - 1) it makes sense with the DBP coaches which would be similar to Express but they don't just pull from St Anthony's, they also pull from Chaminade & Kellenberg and 2) O2 folded a couple of age groups such as their 2021s so by these two merging, the team would be much more competitive.



The BBL program is building bigger brand in NJ,the addition of the North teams over last year makes them the bigger player. North Jersey has been looking for a powerhouse program and they may be the one. If they tap the better players it will push out some the other smaller clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/07/18 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
Originally Posted by laxislife
NJ Swarm has 2 teams; one is 2020 and the other is 2021 & the program is ran by the Don Bosco Prep goalie coach. Small but solid program that is growing although they should merge with O2 Lacrosse considering they are all coaches at DBP and this would strengthen their teams.


I agree with O2 Lacrosse & NJ Swarm merging - 1) it makes sense with the DBP coaches which would be similar to Express but they don't just pull from St Anthony's, they also pull from Chaminade & Kellenberg and 2) O2 folded a couple of age groups such as their 2021s so by these two merging, the team would be much more competitive.



The BBL program is building bigger brand in NJ,the addition of the North teams over last year makes them the bigger player. North Jersey has been looking for a powerhouse program and they may be the one. If they tap the better players it will push out some the other smaller clubs.


Agreed, BBL has made tremendous strides in growing a successful program, but, like other clubs in NJ, they run the risk of diluting the product. If a kid does not make the BBL elite team, they will eventually move on to another program. BBL is not a brand like Express or 91 where parents are willing to pay for the name even if their kid is not on the top team. That is not meant as a knock on BBL, or the talent on their teams, just the reality faced by clubs in NJ. I think that teams need to stick with what they are good at and not try and take over the world. BBL elite is a very successful model, why do they need to have multiple teams that may compete at the B and C levels, there are other clubs in the state that fill that role. The best way to attract the top talent is to have a team that kids aspire to play for, the top BBL, Blue Star, Tri-State and Leading Edge teams are where kids tend to gravitate to if they want to play at a more competitive level, not sure whether it pays for a club like BBL to push out smaller clubs and have developmental teams with the hopes that kids will move up through the system. Just as a disclaimer, I realize that this same argument applies to all of the top clubs in NJ, I only focused on BBL because they were mentioned above.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/08/18 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
Originally Posted by laxislife
NJ Swarm has 2 teams; one is 2020 and the other is 2021 & the program is ran by the Don Bosco Prep goalie coach. Small but solid program that is growing although they should merge with O2 Lacrosse considering they are all coaches at DBP and this would strengthen their teams.


I agree with O2 Lacrosse & NJ Swarm merging - 1) it makes sense with the DBP coaches which would be similar to Express but they don't just pull from St Anthony's, they also pull from Chaminade & Kellenberg and 2) O2 folded a couple of age groups such as their 2021s so by these two merging, the team would be much more competitive.



The BBL program is building bigger brand in NJ,the addition of the North teams over last year makes them the bigger player. North Jersey has been looking for a powerhouse program and they may be the one. If they tap the better players it will push out some the other smaller clubs.


Agreed, BBL has made tremendous strides in growing a successful program, but, like other clubs in NJ, they run the risk of diluting the product. If a kid does not make the BBL elite team, they will eventually move on to another program. BBL is not a brand like Express or 91 where parents are willing to pay for the name even if their kid is not on the top team. That is not meant as a knock on BBL, or the talent on their teams, just the reality faced by clubs in NJ. I think that teams need to stick with what they are good at and not try and take over the world. BBL elite is a very successful model, why do they need to have multiple teams that may compete at the B and C levels, there are other clubs in the state that fill that role. The best way to attract the top talent is to have a team that kids aspire to play for, the top BBL, Blue Star, Tri-State and Leading Edge teams are where kids tend to gravitate to if they want to play at a more competitive level, not sure whether it pays for a club like BBL to push out smaller clubs and have developmental teams with the hopes that kids will move up through the system. Just as a disclaimer, I realize that this same argument applies to all of the top clubs in NJ, I only focused on BBL because they were mentioned above.

Let's go Colts! lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/08/18 06:57 PM
Thoughts on Patriot?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/18/18 12:10 PM
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/18/18 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/18/18 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/18/18 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/18/18 07:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent


Mad Dog picked up a few new players and coach. They won a few tournaments last year, they should be even better this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/18/18 11:21 PM
The Tribal website says "possible tournaments". Given the schedule of last year, this possible schedule may be a stretch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/20/18 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Tribal website says "possible tournaments". Given the schedule of last year, this possible schedule may be a stretch.


It is definitely a very aggressive schedule, good for them if they play it and do well, otherwise it could be a long summer. That said, the only way to get better is to play a tougher schedule, not much long term value in beating up less talented teams every weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/20/18 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Tribal website says "possible tournaments". Given the schedule of last year, this possible schedule may be a stretch.


It is definitely a very aggressive schedule, good for them if they play it and do well, otherwise it could be a long summer. That said, the only way to get better is to play a tougher schedule, not much long term value in beating up less talented teams every weekend.


Still waiting for the top clubs in NJ to create a spring league. No reason to drive to Philly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/21/18 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Tribal website says "possible tournaments". Given the schedule of last year, this possible schedule may be a stretch.


It is definitely a very aggressive schedule, good for them if they play it and do well, otherwise it could be a long summer. That said, the only way to get better is to play a tougher schedule, not much long term value in beating up less talented teams every weekend.


Still waiting for the top clubs in NJ to create a spring league. No reason to drive to Philly.


I could not agree more, but for some reason the NJ teams do not like to play each other. You do see a lot of Philly kids move around from team to team each year, perhaps the Jersey teams want to protect their product. The other issue is that NJ does not really have a great centrally located multi field turf venue like the proving grounds.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/25/18 09:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Tribal website says "possible tournaments". Given the schedule of last year, this possible schedule may be a stretch.


It is definitely a very aggressive schedule, good for them if they play it and do well, otherwise it could be a long summer. That said, the only way to get better is to play a tougher schedule, not much long term value in beating up less talented teams every weekend.


Still waiting for the top clubs in NJ to create a spring league. No reason to drive to Philly.


I could not agree more, but for some reason the NJ teams do not like to play each other. You do see a lot of Philly kids move around from team to team each year, perhaps the Jersey teams want to protect their product. The other issue is that NJ does not really have a great centrally located multi field turf venue like the proving grounds.


What about a league in Northern NJ closer to Westchester & CT clubs to have not just NJ team but teams like PrimeTime, 3D Tristate, CT Valley, Predators, Express North & so on?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/26/18 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Tribal website says "possible tournaments". Given the schedule of last year, this possible schedule may be a stretch.


It is definitely a very aggressive schedule, good for them if they play it and do well, otherwise it could be a long summer. That said, the only way to get better is to play a tougher schedule, not much long term value in beating up less talented teams every weekend.


Still waiting for the top clubs in NJ to create a spring league. No reason to drive to Philly.


I could not agree more, but for some reason the NJ teams do not like to play each other. You do see a lot of Philly kids move around from team to team each year, perhaps the Jersey teams want to protect their product. The other issue is that NJ does not really have a great centrally located multi field turf venue like the proving grounds.


What about a league in Northern NJ closer to Westchester & CT clubs to have not just NJ team but teams like PrimeTime, 3D Tristate, CT Valley, Predators, Express North & so on?


Great concept, but it defeats the idea of a NJ league..central and south NJ teams will probably just end up in NXT mid-atlantic...a league out of central Jersey near the turnpike (i.e. Rutgers area) would be ideal (and it would be a good way to promote Rutgers lax), but it seems to be wishful thinking
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/26/18 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent



If they play these tournaments in the AA bracket and are competitive, then they should be considered elite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/26/18 09:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent



If they play these tournaments in the AA bracket and are competitive, then they should be considered elite.


OK, and then what, they just want be considered elite?....what's the point..you are spending too much time on the Maryland forum reading the nonsensical posts about HOCO, etc....if they play well in AA, then they will be considered a good AA team along with the other good AA teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/27/18 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.


Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck


Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)


Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent



If they play these tournaments in the AA bracket and are competitive, then they should be considered elite.


OK, and then what, they just want be considered elite?....what's the point..you are spending too much time on the Maryland forum reading the nonsensical posts about HOCO, etc....if they play well in AA, then they will be considered a good AA team along with the other good AA teams


Ok, what would you suggest everyone post? Go Colts!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/27/18 06:45 PM


OK, and then what, they just want be considered elite?....what's the point..you are spending too much time on the Maryland forum reading the nonsensical posts about HOCO, etc....if they play well in AA, then they will be considered a good AA team along with the other good AA teams[/quote]

Ok, what would you suggest everyone post? Go Colts![/quote]

Anything other than somebody searching desperately for validation of their kids team....if the team does well, terrific, but why does the poster care whether the team is considered elite, it means nothing, it is not a standard. What is the poster going to do when their kids team starts getting beat down by the big holdback programs in a few years..will their team no longer be "elite"...no, the argument will then be that the team is elite but is unfairly faced with the holdbacks...it is a never ending cycle
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/01/18 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


OK, and then what, they just want be considered elite?....what's the point..you are spending too much time on the Maryland forum reading the nonsensical posts about HOCO, etc....if they play well in AA, then they will be considered a good AA team along with the other good AA teams


Ok, what would you suggest everyone post? Go Colts![/quote]

Anything other than somebody searching desperately for validation of their kids team....if the team does well, terrific, but why does the poster care whether the team is considered elite, it means nothing, it is not a standard. What is the poster going to do when their kids team starts getting beat down by the big holdback programs in a few years..will their team no longer be "elite"...no, the argument will then be that the team is elite but is unfairly faced with the holdbacks...it is a never ending cycle
[/quote]

It doesn't sounds like someone desperately searching. It sounded like they just want to know where their team fits. Let them play the teams and see if they are competitive (or elite, whatever you want to call it). Not sure why you are getting bent on this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/01/18 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


OK, and then what, they just want be considered elite?....what's the point..you are spending too much time on the Maryland forum reading the nonsensical posts about HOCO, etc....if they play well in AA, then they will be considered a good AA team along with the other good AA teams


Ok, what would you suggest everyone post? Go Colts!


Anything other than somebody searching desperately for validation of their kids team....if the team does well, terrific, but why does the poster care whether the team is considered elite, it means nothing, it is not a standard. What is the poster going to do when their kids team starts getting beat down by the big holdback programs in a few years..will their team no longer be "elite"...no, the argument will then be that the team is elite but is unfairly faced with the holdbacks...it is a never ending cycle
[/quote]

It doesn't sounds like someone desperately searching. It sounded like they just want to know where their team fits. Let them play the teams and see if they are competitive (or elite, whatever you want to call it). Not sure why you are getting bent on this. [/quote]

You just summed up exactly why it is frustrating... as you state "Let them play the teams and see if they are competitive (or elite, whatever you want to call it)"....this is my point, play and see what happens...the teams record will dictate how they are perceived, not some meaningless label.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/01/18 07:31 PM
Patriot is a great club. If you believe that great coaching, excellent communication from club ownership, access to the recruiting director, and a solid reputation with College Coaches are important for a club. I have been a Patriot parent for six great years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/09/18 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little crap
the BBL 2023 life st to the 2024 legacy team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/09/18 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little crap
the BBL 2023 life st to the 2024 legacy team


Did the legacy team play up. or is BBL holding kids back
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/11/18 03:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clearly a hater. What team are you speaking on behalf of? All that I was stating is the BBL should be considered in the conversation of being one of the Top Clubs in NJ. Not saying that we are the best but from top to bottom, we produce several college commitments and the middle school teams are competitive.


BBL was listed at the top NJ 2023 team. read the prior post. Come on Mom, you can't post if you're not willing to take a little crap
the BBL 2023 life st to the 2024 legacy team


Did the legacy team play up. or is BBL holding kids back


It had to be '24 BBL 24
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/01/18 01:57 AM
My son plays for riot 2021, they have good coaches and well tun
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/02/18 07:46 PM
Looking at BBL, how many teams do they have at each age and does quality hold from the first team to the b team? I have seen their teams in 2024 listed as BBL Elite, BBL Black and BBL Helix. Do they really put togeher 3 quality teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/03/18 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking at BBL, how many teams do they have at each age and does quality hold from the first team to the b team? I have seen their teams in 2024 listed as BBL Elite, BBL Black and BBL Helix. Do they really put togeher 3 quality teams?


No NJ club puts 3 quality team together. Reach out to BBL and see if you can get your kid on the team. If he is good they will find a spot, another option is to find out where the kids in his town play. Reach out to that club and see if you can get a spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 03:25 PM
Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?


The comment was about having 3 teams in the same age group, not 3 teams overall, any NJ club that thinks that they can carry 3 competitive teams at an age group will be doing some soul searching eventually...and nice job by NJLC representing NJ lax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?


The question was 3 teams at one age group.

Adrenaline is a B tournament good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 05:17 PM
gatcha. thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?


The question was 3 teams at one age group.

Adrenaline is a B tournament good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic.


Go back to the Maryland forum, nobody cares
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?


The question was 3 teams at one age group.

Adrenaline is a B tournament good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic.


Go back to the Maryland forum, nobody cares


NJLC is a NJ team, another NJ team Leading Edge was as the Terrapin Fall Classic.

Not sure what you're talking about!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 09:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?


The question was 3 teams at one age group.

Adrenaline is a B tournament good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic.


Go back to the Maryland forum, nobody cares


NJLC is a NJ team, another NJ team Leading Edge was as the Terrapin Fall Classic.

Not sure what you're talking about!


I am talking about your knock on another team for playing in what you perceive to be a B tournament and that "good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic"... The fact that LE or any other team, was at the tournament is irrelevant, just comes off as the type of comment that is typical to the Md. and LI forums
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/05/18 10:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?


The question was 3 teams at one age group.

Adrenaline is a B tournament good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic.


Go back to the Maryland forum, nobody cares


NJLC is a NJ team, another NJ team Leading Edge was as the Terrapin Fall Classic.

Not sure what you're talking about!


I am talking about your knock on another team for playing in what you perceive to be a B tournament and that "good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic"... The fact that LE or any other team, was at the tournament is irrelevant, just comes off as the type of comment that is typical to the Md. and LI forums


Reread what you're posted. The original question was asking if any NJ club has 3 good teams at one age.
You took it as an opportunity to post about NJLC having a good showing at a tournament against teams you should beat. If you would have posted. NJLC had a good showing this weekend at Adrenaline no one would have said anything.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/06/18 02:27 AM
was it a B tournament? I mean there are those...right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/06/18 02:36 AM
I thought the topic was 3 good teams by one club. I stood corrected by another person, (3 teams, same age). Seemed over at that piont, but here we are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/06/18 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the topic was 3 good teams by one club. I stood corrected by another person, (3 teams, same age). Seemed over at that piont, but here we are.


Funny how you made an honest mistake, corrected it...but somehow somebody thought that it was a good opportunity to knock the tournament as a B tournament, and then come back with some ridiculous post about how you should have written your initial which makes absolutely no sense...as I stated earlier, glad that NJLC had a great weekend, congrats.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/07/18 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the topic was 3 good teams by one club. I stood corrected by another person, (3 teams, same age). Seemed over at that piont, but here we are.


Funny how you made an honest mistake, corrected it...but somehow somebody thought that it was a good opportunity to knock the tournament as a B tournament, and then come back with some ridiculous post about how you should have written your initial which makes absolutely no sense...as I stated earlier, glad that NJLC had a great weekend, congrats.


Agree, NJLC has always put together good teams, some of the better High School teams in NJ. With the programs like Mad Dog & Turnpike who seem to lose teams & players when they hit High School, NJLC should continue to develop players and field, strong teams. I could be wrong but they might be the only non-NLF club to send teams to NLF events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/07/18 07:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the topic was 3 good teams by one club. I stood corrected by another person, (3 teams, same age). Seemed over at that piont, but here we are.


Funny how you made an honest mistake, corrected it...but somehow somebody thought that it was a good opportunity to knock the tournament as a B tournament, and then come back with some ridiculous post about how you should have written your initial which makes absolutely no sense...as I stated earlier, glad that NJLC had a great weekend, congrats.


Agree, NJLC has always put together good teams, some of the better High School teams in NJ. With the programs like Mad Dog & Turnpike who seem to lose teams & players when they hit High School, NJLC should continue to develop players and field, strong teams. I could be wrong but they might be the only non-NLF club to send teams to NLF events.


Not a huge fan of NLF, but the competition is excellent. Very true about certain clubs, they cannot keep teams going through high school, I understand that a kid here and there may leave a program for greener pastures, but some clubs seem to shed a whole team once high school hits. I find it especially surprising for Mad Dog considering that they have good players and a pretty large footprint with the MD West and select teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/07/18 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the topic was 3 good teams by one club. I stood corrected by another person, (3 teams, same age). Seemed over at that piont, but here we are.


Funny how you made an honest mistake, corrected it...but somehow somebody thought that it was a good opportunity to knock the tournament as a B tournament, and then come back with some ridiculous post about how you should have written your initial which makes absolutely no sense...as I stated earlier, glad that NJLC had a great weekend, congrats.


Agree, NJLC has always put together good teams, some of the better High School teams in NJ. With the programs like Mad Dog & Turnpike who seem to lose teams & players when they hit High School, NJLC should continue to develop players and field, strong teams. I could be wrong but they might be the only non-NLF club to send teams to NLF events.


Not a huge fan of NLF, but the competition is excellent. Very true about certain clubs, they cannot keep teams going through high school, I understand that a kid here and there may leave a program for greener pastures, but some clubs seem to shed a whole team once high school hits. I find it especially surprising for Mad Dog considering that they have good players and a pretty large footprint with the MD West and select teams.


Mad Dog only pulls from a small area in NJ, major turnover with coaches. Within 3 years Mad Dog NJ could be dead.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/10/18 01:12 AM
So what about the Autumn Gold showcase this weekend at Townson? is that a B Tournament/showcase?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/10/18 01:30 AM
i always thouhgt BBL was a good club. Played them in field many times, and went 500 against them.Semi rec team. Good kids/parents. Smashed em, and everyone, at NXT box in PA. Bayhawks elite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/10/18 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i always thouhgt BBL was a good club. Played them in field many times, and went 500 against them.we are Semi rec team. Good kids/parents. Smashed em, and everyone, at NXT box in PA. Bayhawks elite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
i always thouhgt BBL was a good club. Played them in field many times, and went 500 against them.Semi rec team. Good kids/parents. Smashed em, and everyone, at NXT box in PA. Bayhawks elite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
i always thouhgt BBL was a good club. Played them in field many times, and went 500 against them.Semi rec team. Good kids/parents. Smashed em, and everyone, at NXT box in PA. Bayhawks elite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/11/18 12:24 PM
I think you got your answer at NAL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/12/18 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think you got your answer at NAL

To what?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/13/18 03:47 AM
Tribal
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/13/18 12:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tribal


Would still like to see BBL, Tribal, Mad Dog Black & 3d NJ in a playday at the '25 level. Leading Edge can host and hand out contact information for their High School program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/13/18 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tribal


Are we still talking about Tribal, I thought that this was old news. You came on the forum earlier to get your validation, you got some positive replies and honest comments, and then came back on here tooting your horn because of one tournament...there is nothing gained by the constant promotion. Trust me, give it another year or two and your precious '25 team will be getting smacked around by the the big bad holdback teams...and if you don't believe me, take a look at what happens to 91 Bandits when they play teams like DC Dogs, Laxachusetts and the like.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/13/18 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tribal


Are we still talking about Tribal, I thought that this was old news. You came on the forum earlier to get your validation, you got some positive replies and honest comments, and then came back on here tooting your horn because of one tournament...there is nothing gained by the constant promotion. Trust me, give it another year or two and your precious '25 team will be getting smacked around by the the big bad holdback teams...and if you don't believe me, take a look at what happens to 91 Bandits when they play teams like DC Dogs, Laxachusetts and the like.


South Jersey schools require students to repeat the 8th grade so they can be at the same academic level as the rest of the state? They will be a solid team as 8th graders!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/13/18 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tribal


Are we still talking about Tribal, I thought that this was old news. You came on the forum earlier to get your validation, you got some positive replies and honest comments, and then came back on here tooting your horn because of one tournament...there is nothing gained by the constant promotion. Trust me, give it another year or two and your precious '25 team will be getting smacked around by the the big bad holdback teams...and if you don't believe me, take a look at what happens to 91 Bandits when they play teams like DC Dogs, Laxachusetts and the like.


South Jersey schools require students to repeat the 8th grade so they can be at the same academic level as the rest of the state? They will be a solid team as 8th graders!




You seem to be missing the point, the playing field will not be level in 8th grade. 91 Bandits is a solid 8th grade team now, and can beat any other on-age 2023 team, but outside of age-based, they do not dominate like they used to as 6th and 7th graders because the other programs are now full of holdbacks and reclassed kids. Nobody could touch Bandits at the WSYL, but look at what happens when they played the big NLF events. Also, it would be pretty surprising if the team stayed together through eight grade, especially with the draw of the Philly programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/13/18 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tribal


Are we still talking about Tribal, I thought that this was old news. You came on the forum earlier to get your validation, you got some positive replies and honest comments, and then came back on here tooting your horn because of one tournament...there is nothing gained by the constant promotion. Trust me, give it another year or two and your precious '25 team will be getting smacked around by the the big bad holdback teams...and if you don't believe me, take a look at what happens to 91 Bandits when they play teams like DC Dogs, Laxachusetts and the like.


South Jersey schools require students to repeat the 8th grade so they can be at the same academic level as the rest of the state? They will be a solid team as 8th graders!




South Jersey really is not part of NJ, they just think they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/18 03:40 PM
Who is One More Lacrosse out of NJ? They submitted a team in the WSYL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/29/18 09:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is One More Lacrosse out of NJ? They submitted a team in the WSYL.

Where do you see teams signed up for WSYL?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/29/18 09:41 PM
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/18 02:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/773194/standings
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/18 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/773194/standings


That is a pretty interesting qualifier, some very good teams. If that BBL 2024 is legitimately on-age, they will make a good run
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/30/18 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/773194/standings


That is a pretty interesting qualifier, some very good teams. If that BBL 2024 is legitimately on-age, they will make a good run


Who is OneMore Lax out of NJ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/01/18 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/773194/standings


Thanks for that! Assume more will sign up as time gets closer. Freedom, Patriot, Maddog, 3d are teams that would seem to fit on this list.

How many teams from the region qualify? Is it set # or a % of entries?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/03/18 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/773194/standings


Thanks for that! Assume more will sign up as time gets closer. Freedom, Patriot, Maddog, 3d are teams that would seem to fit on this list.

How many teams from the region qualify? Is it set # or a % of entries?


I don't think that you will see any of those clubs entering teams, they would have signed up already. It is not an easy undertaking if you have too many kids that do not make the cut-off, plus you have to get the parents on board as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/03/18 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/773194/standings


Thanks for that! Assume more will sign up as time gets closer. Freedom, Patriot, Maddog, 3d are teams that would seem to fit on this list.

How many teams from the region qualify? Is it set # or a % of entries?


I don't think that you will see any of those clubs entering teams, they would have signed up already. It is not an easy undertaking if you have too many kids that do not make the cut-off, plus you have to get the parents on board as well.


Agree, I know BBL and Tristate just announced their WSYL team tryout but they are teams that annually field a team so I am sure they preregister and I would assume the better/eligible players from the other NJ teams will tryout for those WSYL teams. It is very difficult to field a competitive team from a preexisting club because of the age cutoff and dispersion of talent across the state.

Only a couple of the NY clubs can typically field a WSYL competitive team with their existing club team. I believe the BL team is primarily their club team but they built it over the last couple of years with this tournament in mind. You absolutely need a stud FO and Goalie and at least 1 dominant (read post puberty) midfielder to have any success out there.

Plus as you said, you need all the parents willing to drop a decent chunk of change on a lacrosse vacation.

As for qualifiers, last year, 5 from the east qualified and I think 6 from the North. I would think its based on the # of entries/talent areas although if the Central had 15 teams enter, I am still not sure they would take top 5 since the depth of talented teams is not as great as the East or North. Last year you had 2 East teams make the playoffs out in Denver, 4 North teams, 1 International and 1 West Team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/03/18 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see who is signed up for WSYL?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/773194/standings


Thanks for that! Assume more will sign up as time gets closer. Freedom, Patriot, Maddog, 3d are teams that would seem to fit on this list.

How many teams from the region qualify? Is it set # or a % of entries?


I don't think that you will see any of those clubs entering teams, they would have signed up already. It is not an easy undertaking if you have too many kids that do not make the cut-off, plus you have to get the parents on board as well.


Agree, I know BBL and Tristate just announced their WSYL team tryout but they are teams that annually field a team so I am sure they preregister and I would assume the better/eligible players from the other NJ teams will tryout for those WSYL teams. It is very difficult to field a competitive team from a preexisting club because of the age cutoff and dispersion of talent across the state.

Only a couple of the NY clubs can typically field a WSYL competitive team with their existing club team. I believe the BL team is primarily their club team but they built it over the last couple of years with this tournament in mind. You absolutely need a stud FO and Goalie and at least 1 dominant (read post puberty) midfielder to have any success out there.

Plus as you said, you need all the parents willing to drop a decent chunk of change on a lacrosse vacation.

As for qualifiers, last year, 5 from the east qualified and I think 6 from the North. I would think its based on the # of entries/talent areas although if the Central had 15 teams enter, I am still not sure they would take top 5 since the depth of talented teams is not as great as the East or North. Last year you had 2 East teams make the playoffs out in Denver, 4 North teams, 1 International and 1 West Team.

Also remember that the East includes MD, DC, VA but literally NO DMV team play. We all know why.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/03/18 10:02 PM
Who were the 2 east teams? Either NJ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/04/18 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who were the 2 east teams? Either NJ?


No, Big 5 was a PA team and Next Level was a MD team.. tristate and BBL qualified out of the east and had a good showing but didn’t advance out of their pool
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/04/18 02:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Also remember that the East includes MD, DC, VA but literally NO DMV team play. We all know why.


Cavalier is VA, last year they were 1 spot from qualifying, breakers are MD. API is MD and are usually pretty good..

I think the top 2 coming out of east are BBL and brotherly love and both could go far in Denver.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/04/18 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Also remember that the East includes MD, DC, VA but literally NO DMV team play. We all know why.


Cavalier is VA, last year they were 1 spot from qualifying, breakers are MD. API is MD and are usually pretty good..

I think the top 2 coming out of east are BBL and brotherly love and both could go far in Denver.



Cavalier was OK last year, Breakers team was not strong at all, API did not play. Other than the two bottom teams there was a lot of parity at the qualifiers, no real blow-outs among the top teams. Next Level was tough at the qualifiers, a couple of big kids, they looked really good in Denver (you can see the top NL kids on DC Dawgs now, they jumped ship right after Denver and played 2023 National Championship and NLF championship with DC). If the BBL 2024 team that played at Lehigh this fall is legit and on-age, they will be very strong at WSYL. I think, as in the past, you will see 5 teams come out of the East qualifier. Also, where you place in qualifier makes a huge difference when they do the seeding in Denver, if you finish too low, you have a very tough road.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/14/18 06:43 PM
Very exciting news for our sport and program! Our Select National Director and Recruiting Consultant, Jim Stagnitta, has been named one of the six head coaches of the Premiere Lacrosse League! Congrats to Coach Stagnitta and the rest of the pack for being part of a new era of lacrosse! Coach Stagnitta will be joining our East, West, and HS National Team for Sandstorm Jan 18-20 in Indio, CA!

Will Stagnitta do anything to improve Mad Dog's standing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/17/18 05:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very exciting news for our sport and program! Our Select National Director and Recruiting Consultant, Jim Stagnitta, has been named one of the six head coaches of the Premiere Lacrosse League! Congrats to Coach Stagnitta and the rest of the pack for being part of a new era of lacrosse! Coach Stagnitta will be joining our East, West, and HS National Team for Sandstorm Jan 18-20 in Indio, CA!

Will Stagnitta do anything to improve Mad Dog's standing?


Can't really see how this does anything for Mad Dog, unless, however unlikely, he can somehow get the PLL players involved with the club. It's not as though kids are going to be knocking down the doors to play for Mad Dog because he is a PLL coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/18/18 12:46 AM
where does patriot fall in these rankings?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/18/18 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
where does patriot fall in these rankings?


Very hard to judge. You can get a pretty good feel for BBL, LE and Tri-State teams because they mostly compete against the same programs, i.e. Annapolis Hawks, Freedom, Brotherly Love, 91's, Igloo, Express, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/18/18 02:29 PM
I agree the BBL Team is excellent but I believe they have quite a few boys that are not eligible; otherwise I would have placed them in the top 5.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/18/18 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree the BBL Team is excellent but I believe they have quite a few boys that are not eligible; otherwise I would have placed them in the top 5.

What age group are you talking about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/18/18 08:32 PM
2024 Team. Excellent and very athletic but alot of overage boys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/18/18 09:46 PM
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/19/18 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/19/18 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


I guess a lot depends on which 2 or 3 do not qualify. I saw them play, a very good team across the board, but there were 2 maybe 3 real impact players that really bring the team up a level. If they are the 2 or 3 non-qualifiers, that could be an issue. For example, the tall midfielder is very good, if he is not on-age for WSYL, that would be a problem in Denver.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/19/18 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.


Just out of curiosity, if most teams, if not all, that play in the NLF championship will have holdbacks/reclasses, why does the NLF have an issue with the national teams playing, is it because they are just make-shift teams that do not typically play together. While I have no love for the national team concept, why are they singled out. I am not trying to be controversial, just curious as to the rationale. For example, the DC Dogs team at the 2023 Millon national championship last summer included a few kids pulled from Next Level, and they also ended up in that NLF championship game against True national. Under the above rationale DC Dogs would be eligible, but True national would not. But that also begs the question, how would this be enforced, teams like True would just bring True "Illinois" and have a bunch of add-ons like DC Dogs. As we all are well aware, there will be no actual enforcement, and if there is, the effected teams will probably claim that the NLF "founding" clubs are just scared to play the top teams. I can definitely see teams like Express and 91 not being happy when they are excluded from the championship games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/19/18 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.
Express wont make the finals
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/20/18 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.


Just out of curiosity, if most teams, if not all, that play in the NLF championship will have holdbacks/reclasses, why does the NLF have an issue with the national teams playing, is it because they are just make-shift teams that do not typically play together. While I have no love for the national team concept, why are they singled out. I am not trying to be controversial, just curious as to the rationale. For example, the DC Dogs team at the 2023 Millon national championship last summer included a few kids pulled from Next Level, and they also ended up in that NLF championship game against True national. Under the above rationale DC Dogs would be eligible, but True national would not. But that also begs the question, how would this be enforced, teams like True would just bring True "Illinois" and have a bunch of add-ons like DC Dogs. As we all are well aware, there will be no actual enforcement, and if there is, the effected teams will probably claim that the NLF "founding" clubs are just scared to play the top teams. I can definitely see teams like Express and 91 not being happy when they are excluded from the championship games.


I can't speak for the NLF. My guess it is because West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National & Ture were in the finals last year with players from multiple states on their rosters, taking spots away from NLF teams. I don't think anyone is scared to play the top teams but they are running a business. I would bet their customers were pissed so they are making adjustments.
DC Dogs could pull in Next Level kids without anyone knowing. All live in the same area.
Love them or hate them, the one thing you can say about Dynamic Sports Management (the brains behind the NLF), it's not a bunch of lacrosse players that don't want to get a real job after college. They manage things like a real company.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/20/18 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.


Just out of curiosity, if most teams, if not all, that play in the NLF championship will have holdbacks/reclasses, why does the NLF have an issue with the national teams playing, is it because they are just make-shift teams that do not typically play together. While I have no love for the national team concept, why are they singled out. I am not trying to be controversial, just curious as to the rationale. For example, the DC Dogs team at the 2023 Millon national championship last summer included a few kids pulled from Next Level, and they also ended up in that NLF championship game against True national. Under the above rationale DC Dogs would be eligible, but True national would not. But that also begs the question, how would this be enforced, teams like True would just bring True "Illinois" and have a bunch of add-ons like DC Dogs. As we all are well aware, there will be no actual enforcement, and if there is, the effected teams will probably claim that the NLF "founding" clubs are just scared to play the top teams. I can definitely see teams like Express and 91 not being happy when they are excluded from the championship games.


I can't speak for the NLF. My guess it is because West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National & Ture were in the finals last year with players from multiple states on their rosters, taking spots away from NLF teams. I don't think anyone is scared to play the top teams but they are running a business. I would bet their customers were pissed so they are making adjustments.
DC Dogs could pull in Next Level kids without anyone knowing. All live in the same area.
Love them or hate them, the one thing you can say about Dynamic Sports Management (the brains behind the NLF), it's not a bunch of lacrosse players that don't want to get a real job after college. They manage things like a real company.


Lurking DMV person here but the comments about DC Dogs are not accurate. While it is true that some NL kids played in WSYL and DC Dogs in the same summer, that is very different from a National or even regional team. There are many teams in the DMV area and if they put together an all star team like True it would be interesting to say the least. My son plays with and is friends with many of these kids. At 2023 the Madlax Capital team was not an elite team and would not have done well at WSYL but did not even try to qualify. Most ML teams do not. The top teams in the area last spring were Club Blue, Next Level, and Bethesda. Next Level did field a team for WSYL. Madlax folded the Capital team and at the same time merged with Club Blue. This was in the spring. Madlax DC Dogs was formed and had an open tryout. Some of the Next Level kids attended the tryout. They had also committed to play at WSYL which they had already qualified for. Those kids are now part of the new team DC Dogs. They are not "borrowed" from Next Level. It is not accurate to compare the DC Dogs team to a National team like West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National, or True. They are a local group of kids who have played together for a long time. Most even attend the same middle school.a2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/20/18 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.


Just out of curiosity, if most teams, if not all, that play in the NLF championship will have holdbacks/reclasses, why does the NLF have an issue with the national teams playing, is it because they are just make-shift teams that do not typically play together. While I have no love for the national team concept, why are they singled out. I am not trying to be controversial, just curious as to the rationale. For example, the DC Dogs team at the 2023 Millon national championship last summer included a few kids pulled from Next Level, and they also ended up in that NLF championship game against True national. Under the above rationale DC Dogs would be eligible, but True national would not. But that also begs the question, how would this be enforced, teams like True would just bring True "Illinois" and have a bunch of add-ons like DC Dogs. As we all are well aware, there will be no actual enforcement, and if there is, the effected teams will probably claim that the NLF "founding" clubs are just scared to play the top teams. I can definitely see teams like Express and 91 not being happy when they are excluded from the championship games.


I can't speak for the NLF. My guess it is because West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National & Ture were in the finals last year with players from multiple states on their rosters, taking spots away from NLF teams. I don't think anyone is scared to play the top teams but they are running a business. I would bet their customers were pissed so they are making adjustments.
DC Dogs could pull in Next Level kids without anyone knowing. All live in the same area.
Love them or hate them, the one thing you can say about Dynamic Sports Management (the brains behind the NLF), it's not a bunch of lacrosse players that don't want to get a real job after college. They manage things like a real company.



Agreed, DSM is just stacking things to their benefit (and yes they are unique in a world full of lax players trying to run businesses). As for the DC Dogs issue, I disagree. The lax world is small, everybody knows everything. Every kid and parent at the Millon event that went to Denver or played in the qualifier knew exactly who the kids were on DC Dogs. If your club is playing the bigger events, whether NLF or tournaments like Naptown, you see these kids all of the time. My son could probably rattle off the names of the best kids on most of the top teams in the country, they all cross paths at tournaments and follow each other on social media.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/20/18 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.


Just out of curiosity, if most teams, if not all, that play in the NLF championship will have holdbacks/reclasses, why does the NLF have an issue with the national teams playing, is it because they are just make-shift teams that do not typically play together. While I have no love for the national team concept, why are they singled out. I am not trying to be controversial, just curious as to the rationale. For example, the DC Dogs team at the 2023 Millon national championship last summer included a few kids pulled from Next Level, and they also ended up in that NLF championship game against True national. Under the above rationale DC Dogs would be eligible, but True national would not. But that also begs the question, how would this be enforced, teams like True would just bring True "Illinois" and have a bunch of add-ons like DC Dogs. As we all are well aware, there will be no actual enforcement, and if there is, the effected teams will probably claim that the NLF "founding" clubs are just scared to play the top teams. I can definitely see teams like Express and 91 not being happy when they are excluded from the championship games.


I can't speak for the NLF. My guess it is because West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National & Ture were in the finals last year with players from multiple states on their rosters, taking spots away from NLF teams. I don't think anyone is scared to play the top teams but they are running a business. I would bet their customers were pissed so they are making adjustments.
DC Dogs could pull in Next Level kids without anyone knowing. All live in the same area.
Love them or hate them, the one thing you can say about Dynamic Sports Management (the brains behind the NLF), it's not a bunch of lacrosse players that don't want to get a real job after college. They manage things like a real company.


Lurking DMV person here but the comments about DC Dogs are not accurate. While it is true that some NL kids played in WSYL and DC Dogs in the same summer, that is very different from a National or even regional team. There are many teams in the DMV area and if they put together an all star team like True it would be interesting to say the least. My son plays with and is friends with many of these kids. At 2023 the Madlax Capital team was not an elite team and would not have done well at WSYL but did not even try to qualify. Most ML teams do not. The top teams in the area last spring were Club Blue, Next Level, and Bethesda. Next Level did field a team for WSYL. Madlax folded the Capital team and at the same time merged with Club Blue. This was in the spring. Madlax DC Dogs was formed and had an open tryout. Some of the Next Level kids attended the tryout. They had also committed to play at WSYL which they had already qualified for. Those kids are now part of the new team DC Dogs. They are not "borrowed" from Next Level. It is not accurate to compare the DC Dogs team to a National team like West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National, or True. They are a local group of kids who have played together for a long time. Most even attend the same middle school.a2


Either way, I do not understand the problem with the national team concept. Again, while I do not like the national teams organizationally, I think that you made a very interesting point about DC Dogs vs. a national team. The DMV area is flooded with lacrosse players, therefore, it is easy to put together an elite level team like DC Dogs, Hawks or Crabs with local product. However, the rest of the country, outside of the Northeast, is not equally flush with elite level players or elite level teams. Perhaps the national team model serves the interests of the kid from Utah or Minnesota that does not have an option for elite level lacrosse locally. Kids flying in from Texas and Florida to play for Maryland clubs supports this demand just as much as the national team does. My guess is that the national team concept will fizzle out at some point once the sport has grown to the extent that elite level tournaments are being held on a more regular basis nationally, Once the kid from Utah or Minnesota can play regionally, there will be no incentive for parents to pay top dollar to fly their kids to a tournament in Maryland.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/20/18 10:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true, maybe 2, 3 kids at most before the sept 1st birthday. They will do well at WSYL


They might do OK. Going 1 or 2 games over 500. WSYL will forever be a Long Island dominated event. They start building for the event in 5th grade and have two years of year-round practice so everyone can watch two Long Island or NY/CT team in the finals. Express CoachS will win, they will either play the Wolfpack or Primetime in the finals.

Parents and kids love the event but have realistic expectations. You are going to Denver to play a little lacrosse, eat Mexican food and drink. Not a bad 4th weekend.

Get your team into the NLF Club National Championship next summer and bring your summer birthdays. Rumor has it they are cutting out the "national teams" so it should be a good test for your full team.


Just out of curiosity, if most teams, if not all, that play in the NLF championship will have holdbacks/reclasses, why does the NLF have an issue with the national teams playing, is it because they are just make-shift teams that do not typically play together. While I have no love for the national team concept, why are they singled out. I am not trying to be controversial, just curious as to the rationale. For example, the DC Dogs team at the 2023 Millon national championship last summer included a few kids pulled from Next Level, and they also ended up in that NLF championship game against True national. Under the above rationale DC Dogs would be eligible, but True national would not. But that also begs the question, how would this be enforced, teams like True would just bring True "Illinois" and have a bunch of add-ons like DC Dogs. As we all are well aware, there will be no actual enforcement, and if there is, the effected teams will probably claim that the NLF "founding" clubs are just scared to play the top teams. I can definitely see teams like Express and 91 not being happy when they are excluded from the championship games.


I can't speak for the NLF. My guess it is because West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National & Ture were in the finals last year with players from multiple states on their rosters, taking spots away from NLF teams. I don't think anyone is scared to play the top teams but they are running a business. I would bet their customers were pissed so they are making adjustments.
DC Dogs could pull in Next Level kids without anyone knowing. All live in the same area.
Love them or hate them, the one thing you can say about Dynamic Sports Management (the brains behind the NLF), it's not a bunch of lacrosse players that don't want to get a real job after college. They manage things like a real company.


Lurking DMV person here but the comments about DC Dogs are not accurate. While it is true that some NL kids played in WSYL and DC Dogs in the same summer, that is very different from a National or even regional team. There are many teams in the DMV area and if they put together an all star team like True it would be interesting to say the least. My son plays with and is friends with many of these kids. At 2023 the Madlax Capital team was not an elite team and would not have done well at WSYL but did not even try to qualify. Most ML teams do not. The top teams in the area last spring were Club Blue, Next Level, and Bethesda. Next Level did field a team for WSYL. Madlax folded the Capital team and at the same time merged with Club Blue. This was in the spring. Madlax DC Dogs was formed and had an open tryout. Some of the Next Level kids attended the tryout. They had also committed to play at WSYL which they had already qualified for. Those kids are now part of the new team DC Dogs. They are not "borrowed" from Next Level. It is not accurate to compare the DC Dogs team to a National team like West Coast Starz, Sweetlax National, or True. They are a local group of kids who have played together for a long time. Most even attend the same middle school.a2


Either way, I do not understand the problem with the national team concept. Again, while I do not like the national teams organizationally, I think that you made a very interesting point about DC Dogs vs. a national team. The DMV area is flooded with lacrosse players, therefore, it is easy to put together an elite level team like DC Dogs, Hawks or Crabs with local product. However, the rest of the country, outside of the Northeast, is not equally flush with elite level players or elite level teams. Perhaps the national team model serves the interests of the kid from Utah or Minnesota that does not have an option for elite level lacrosse locally. Kids flying in from Texas and Florida to play for Maryland clubs supports this demand just as much as the national team does. My guess is that the national team concept will fizzle out at some point once the sport has grown to the extent that elite level tournaments are being held on a more regular basis nationally, Once the kid from Utah or Minnesota can play regionally, there will be no incentive for parents to pay top dollar to fly their kids to a tournament in Maryland.

I also do not have a problem with the national team concept. I was reading a post in the NJ section and it mentioned that NLF would not allow national teams at the event. Just wanted to clarify that DC Dogs is neither a national team or an all star team. Mad Lax has a national team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/18 02:50 PM

I also do not have a problem with the national team concept. I was reading a post in the NJ section and it mentioned that NLF would not allow national teams at the event. Just wanted to clarify that DC Dogs is neither a national team or an all star team. Mad Lax has a national team.[/quote]

Yes understood about DC Dogs, I was just trying to draw a parallel between them and a national team with respect to the ability to aggregate talent. I have no doubt about DC Dogs being a local product team and also not an all-star team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/21/18 08:08 PM
So the nlf will it allow national teams at their events but it's ok for their own teams(2022 express and 91LI and 91MD) to have players from all different states play in the events. Players who don't practice, just show up to tournaments. NLF is a by chance of hypocrites.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/23/18 08:00 PM
taking this back to NJ - do any clubs offer a real full year program? looking for something to replace a shoddy rec team in the spring particularly
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/23/18 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the nlf will it allow national teams at their events but it's ok for their own teams(2022 express and 91LI and 91MD) to have players from all different states play in the events. Players who don't practice, just show up to tournaments. NLF is a by chance of hypocrites.

Money grab
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/24/18 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
taking this back to NJ - do any clubs offer a real full year program? looking for something to replace a shoddy rec team in the spring particularly


'25 Mad Dog Black. Blatant Spring Jam, NXT Spring League, Play Days with Mesa and working on additional playdays with LI & MD teams. Practicing multiple times a week. Should have a complete schedule by Mid-February.

Leading Edge at the 8th-grade level.

Not sure about North Jersey.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/26/18 02:46 PM
Fall Rankings for NJ teams
Leading Edge and BBL with 5 teams in top 5.. Followed by Tri State with 4 & Mad Dog with 3.


3 LEADING EDGE 2020
14 PATRIOT ELITE 2020
17 SOUTH SHORE 2020
30 TRI STATE 2020
34 BBL ELITE BLACK 2020

3 BBL ELITE BLACK 2021
4 LEADING EDGE 2021
23 MAD DOG NJ 2021
31 STEPS 2021
34 TRI STATE 2021

8 LEADING EDGE 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK 2022
31 STEPS 2022
33 SOUTH SHORE 2022
38 TRI STATE 2022

8 LEADING EDGE 2023
18 TRI STATE 2023
19 BBL ELITE BLACK 2023
22 BLUE STAR 2023
30 NJ RIOT 2023

11 TEAM UNITED 2024
19 MAD DOG NJ 2024
22 BBL ELITE BLACK 2024
24 NJ RIOT 2024
26 LEADING EDGE 2024

10 MAD DOG NJ 2025
12 BBL ELITE BLACK 2025
24 TRIBAL LC 2025
33 SOUTH SHORE 2025
42 PATRIOT ELITE 2025
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/27/18 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fall Rankings for NJ teams
Leading Edge and BBL with 5 teams in top 5.. Followed by Tri State with 4 & Mad Dog with 3.


3 LEADING EDGE 2020
14 PATRIOT ELITE 2020
17 SOUTH SHORE 2020
30 TRI STATE 2020
34 BBL ELITE BLACK 2020

3 BBL ELITE BLACK 2021
4 LEADING EDGE 2021
23 MAD DOG NJ 2021
31 STEPS 2021
34 TRI STATE 2021

8 LEADING EDGE 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK 2022
31 STEPS 2022
33 SOUTH SHORE 2022
38 TRI STATE 2022

8 LEADING EDGE 2023
18 TRI STATE 2023
19 BBL ELITE BLACK 2023
22 BLUE STAR 2023
30 NJ RIOT 2023

11 TEAM UNITED 2024
19 MAD DOG NJ 2024
22 BBL ELITE BLACK 2024
24 NJ RIOT 2024
26 LEADING EDGE 2024

10 MAD DOG NJ 2025
12 BBL ELITE BLACK 2025
24 TRIBAL LC 2025
33 SOUTH SHORE 2025
42 PATRIOT ELITE 2025


With a few exceptions, this is probably pretty accurate with respect the NJ teams head-to-head. I think that LE 2023 may be a little high in the rankings overall at #8, and there definitely may be some disagreement about the top 3 order at 2024.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/30/18 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fall Rankings for NJ teams p
Leading Edge and BBL with 5 teams in top 5.. Followed by Tri State with 4 & Mad Dog with 3.


3 LEADING EDGE 2020
14 PATRIOT ELITE 2020
17 SOUTH SHORE 2020
30 TRI STATE 2020
34 BBL ELITE BLACK 2020

3 BBL ELITE BLACK 2021
4 LEADING EDGE 2021
23 MAD DOG NJ 2021
31 STEPS 2021
34 TRI STATE 2021

8 LEADING EDGE 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK 2022
31 STEPS 2022
33 SOUTH SHORE 2022
38 TRI STATE 2022

8 LEADING EDGE 2023
18 TRI STATE 2023
19 BBL ELITE BLACK 2023
22 BLUE STAR 2023
30 NJ RIOT 2023

11 TEAM UNITED 2024
19 MAD DOG NJ 2024
22 BBL ELITE BLACK 2024
24 NJ RIOT 2024
26 LEADING EDGE 2024

10 MAD DOG NJ 2025
12 BBL ELITE BLACK 2025
24 TRIBAL LC 2025
33 SOUTH SHORE 2025
42 PATRIOT ELITE 2025


With a few exceptions, this is probably pretty accurate with respect the NJ teams head-to-head. I think that LE 2023 may be a little high in the rankings overall at #8, and there definitely may be some disagreement about the top 3 order at 2024.


'21 TriState is should above Steps and Mad Dog
'24 BBL is better than United and Mad Dog.
'25 Tribal should be above Mad Dog and BBL

Supprised how few Blue Star teams are on the list and how many team Mad Dog has on the list considering how many players keep leaving their High School teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/30/18 05:30 PM
didn't '21 TriState beat '21 Leading Edge pretty badly last summer?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/30/18 11:18 PM
Why isn’t Steps better?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 12/31/18 05:36 PM
The rankings are still in their infancy - Limited information and data to back up their algorithm. I think everything will shake out as it develops, but some very noticeable flaws for this first go around.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 02/22/19 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fall Rankings for NJ teams p
Leading Edge and BBL with 5 teams in top 5.. Followed by Tri State with 4 & Mad Dog with 3.


3 LEADING EDGE 2020
14 PATRIOT ELITE 2020
17 SOUTH SHORE 2020
30 TRI STATE 2020
34 BBL ELITE BLACK 2020

3 BBL ELITE BLACK 2021
4 LEADING EDGE 2021
23 MAD DOG NJ 2021
31 STEPS 2021
34 TRI STATE 2021

8 LEADING EDGE 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK 2022
31 STEPS 2022
33 SOUTH SHORE 2022
38 TRI STATE 2022

8 LEADING EDGE 2023
18 TRI STATE 2023
19 BBL ELITE BLACK 2023
22 BLUE STAR 2023
30 NJ RIOT 2023

11 TEAM UNITED 2024
19 MAD DOG NJ 2024
22 BBL ELITE BLACK 2024
24 NJ RIOT 2024
26 LEADING EDGE 2024

10 MAD DOG NJ 2025
12 BBL ELITE BLACK 2025
24 TRIBAL LC 2025
33 SOUTH SHORE 2025
42 PATRIOT ELITE 2025


With a few exceptions, this is probably pretty accurate with respect the NJ teams head-to-head. I think that LE 2023 may be a little high in the rankings overall at #8, and there definitely may be some disagreement about the top 3 order at 2024.


'21 TriState is should above Steps and Mad Dog
'24 BBL is better than United and Mad Dog.
'25 Tribal should be above Mad Dog and BBL

Supprised how few Blue Star teams are on the list and how many team Mad Dog has on the list considering how many players keep leaving their High School teams.


BBL 24 is significantly better than the rank. They won NAPTOWN last summer, they won NXT indoor this weekend. This isn’t a mom, dad or coach. They beat my son’s team at NAPTOWN and looked good doing it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 02/22/19 12:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fall Rankings for NJ teams p
Leading Edge and BBL with 5 teams in top 5.. Followed by Tri State with 4 & Mad Dog with 3.


3 LEADING EDGE 2020
14 PATRIOT ELITE 2020
17 SOUTH SHORE 2020
30 TRI STATE 2020
34 BBL ELITE BLACK 2020

3 BBL ELITE BLACK 2021
4 LEADING EDGE 2021
23 MAD DOG NJ 2021
31 STEPS 2021
34 TRI STATE 2021

8 LEADING EDGE 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK 2022
31 STEPS 2022
33 SOUTH SHORE 2022
38 TRI STATE 2022

8 LEADING EDGE 2023
18 TRI STATE 2023
19 BBL ELITE BLACK 2023
22 BLUE STAR 2023
30 NJ RIOT 2023

11 TEAM UNITED 2024
19 MAD DOG NJ 2024
22 BBL ELITE BLACK 2024
24 NJ RIOT 2024
26 LEADING EDGE 2024

10 MAD DOG NJ 2025
12 BBL ELITE BLACK 2025
24 TRIBAL LC 2025
33 SOUTH SHORE 2025
42 PATRIOT ELITE 2025


With a few exceptions, this is probably pretty accurate with respect the NJ teams head-to-head. I think that LE 2023 may be a little high in the rankings overall at #8, and there definitely may be some disagreement about the top 3 order at 2024.


'21 TriState is should above Steps and Mad Dog
'24 BBL is better than United and Mad Dog.
'25 Tribal should be above Mad Dog and BBL

Supprised how few Blue Star teams are on the list and how many team Mad Dog has on the list considering how many players keep leaving their High School teams.


BBL 24 is significantly better than the rank. They won NAPTOWN last summer, they won NXT indoor this weekend. This isn’t a mom, dad or coach. They beat my son’s team at NAPTOWN and looked good doing it.


The ranking was based on the fall. 7th-grade is a fun year, kids develop early and the teams with the most developed kids end up winning.
At the end of the day, ranking means nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/02/19 05:39 PM
The 2019 team was outstanding. Beat LE, Edge, LB3, 3D, Sweetlax, etc. the few times they played over the last few years; split several close games with Prime Time and Laxachusetts, which were outstanding at 2019. Never lost to Patriot, Riot, or any other NJ team, ever. Won 2 or 3 tournaments each year. The team had very little turnover and they got better each year with outstanding coaching.
The younger teams aren't as strong and parents are more apt to chase the shiny object now and move from team to team seeking 7th grade immortality rather than have some patience. More turnover is rarely a good thing, because there are fewer and fewer good kids each year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/04/19 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 2019 team was outstanding. Beat LE, Edge, LB3, 3D, Sweetlax, etc. the few times they played over the last few years; split several close games with Prime Time and Laxachusetts, which were outstanding at 2019. Never lost to Patriot, Riot, or any other NJ team, ever. Won 2 or 3 tournaments each year. The team had very little turnover and they got better each year with outstanding coaching.
The younger teams aren't as strong and parents are more apt to chase the shiny object now and move from team to team seeking 7th grade immortality rather than have some patience. More turnover is rarely a good thing, because there are fewer and fewer good kids each year.


Who are you talking about? Club teams are different from year to year. Coaches, how the club treats the team. Sounds like your son happened to be on a "special" team from whatever club you are talking about.

I have two sons, one happens to be on a "special" team from the club we play for. The older boys team takes kids just to fill the team, fired the head coach without a replacement. I see it first hand how the teams are treated, are you saying I should have patience and keep paying for a team the club could care less about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/05/19 01:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 2019 team was outstanding. Beat LE, Edge, LB3, 3D, Sweetlax, etc. the few times they played over the last few years; split several close games with Prime Time and Laxachusetts, which were outstanding at 2019. Never lost to Patriot, Riot, or any other NJ team, ever. Won 2 or 3 tournaments each year. The team had very little turnover and they got better each year with outstanding coaching.
The younger teams aren't as strong and parents are more apt to chase the shiny object now and move from team to team seeking 7th grade immortality rather than have some patience. More turnover is rarely a good thing, because there are fewer and fewer good kids each year.


Who are you talking about? Club teams are different from year to year. Coaches, how the club treats the team. Sounds like your son happened to be on a "special" team from whatever club you are talking about.

I have two sons, one happens to be on a "special" team from the club we play for. The older boys team takes kids just to fill the team, fired the head coach without a replacement. I see it first hand how the teams are treated, are you saying I should have patience and keep paying for a team the club could care less about?


I thought I was responding to the Steps question; sorry for the confusion. Yes, the 2019 club was a special group and were coached very well and consistently, with the same coach for 4 years ( who happens to coach Delbarton). All of their success came while rigidly splitting time 50/50 with a 24-man lineup. I love to watch my kids and they're very good, but to be honest when a team has literally no dropoff at any position, it's fun watching when they're sitting for a quarter.

The 2019 team maybe had two spots turn over each year, and after a number of years together they could really play the game. I have a younger son whose team is close to 30-40% a year, and if those new kids aren't absolute studs it will take a while for the team to get as good as it was the year before.

It sounds like your older son is unfortunately getting the all-too-common money grab treatment, and no one could blame you for pulling him if the club is not invested in getting him better. One of the only upsides to there being so many clubs now is that there are a lot of clubs now if you're not happy...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/01/19 02:06 PM
Was at the Mad Dog vs BBL '25 game yesterday at the Mesa play day. BBL should be embarrassed by the behavior of some of your parents. Mad Dog by no means was running up the score.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/01/19 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was at the Mad Dog vs BBL '25 game yesterday at the Mesa play day. BBL should be embarrassed by the behavior of some of your parents. Mad Dog by no means was running up the score.


Mad Dog post showed the score as 7-0..that doesn't even enter the discussion for running up the score...MD 2025 team is pretty stacked, surprised it wasn't worse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/19/19 01:43 AM
Looks like some Mad Dog players went to NJLC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/19/19 01:48 AM
Looks like some Mad Dog players went to NJLC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/29/19 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like some Mad Dog players went to NJLC.


NJLC, Tri State, United..either way, it will all unravel next year with high school, there will be a lot of moves, especially with Leading Edge, half of the current roster will not make the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/30/19 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like some Mad Dog players went to NJLC.


NJLC, Tri State, United..either way, it will all unravel next year with high school, there will be a lot of moves, especially with Leading Edge, half of the current roster will not make the team.


Mad Dog is unraveling at all ages?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 04/30/19 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like some Mad Dog players went to NJLC.


NJLC, Tri State, United..either way, it will all unravel next year with high school, there will be a lot of moves, especially with Leading Edge, half of the current roster will not make the team.


Mad Dog is unraveling at all ages?


It was really just the 2023 team, but they do have a history of losing high school players. I think that it was just the culmination of several years of issues with the team. It's unfortunate because some of the new guys that they have brought in to coach at Mad Dog are really great. Perhaps as some of the younger teams get though the system, things will get better. Their 2025 team is excellent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/14/19 05:09 PM
My son will be going into 6th grade. We live in Morris County. He plays for a local club.
What clubs are good and known for good youth programs? Thoughts on BBL Helix team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/14/19 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son will be going into 6th grade. We live in Morris County. He plays for a local club.
What clubs are good and known for good youth programs? Thoughts on BBL Helix team?


Play for the club his friends play for. Make sure he enjoys the sport before you start traveling to Long Island in the spring with BBL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/14/19 07:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son will be going into 6th grade. We live in Morris County. He plays for a local club.
What clubs are good and known for good youth programs? Thoughts on BBL Helix team?


Play for the club his friends play for. Make sure he enjoys the sport before you start traveling to Long Island in the spring with BBL.


Depending where you are in Morris County, BBL would probably be the closest. Leading Edge, Tri-State and Blue Star are other good options as well. I agree with the comment above, make sure this is what your son really wants because it is a huge time/travel commitment, it also helps if he has friends on the team as there can be a lot of downtime. For the most part, none of these teams play in NJ in the summer LI, PA, MD and DE are where most of the tournaments are located. You will be on the road every weekend during June and part of July, so don't count on any vacations until the end of July or August. Helix is not BBL's top team, but is a stepping stone to their Elite team, a lot depends on your son's skill level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/15/19 01:22 AM
He plays for a local club right now and loves lacrosse, he has lots of friends on that team.

Which is why we stayed with it. He will be ready for the next level, next year (7th) most likely with more competitive tournaments. I thought LE is a club you go to at the older levels, high school.

The BBL Elite team is very hard to make but a great team. I guess its worth a shot. And I will see how he feels at the end of the summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/15/19 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He plays for a local club right now and loves lacrosse, he has lots of friends on that team.

Which is why we stayed with it. He will be ready for the next level, next year (7th) most likely with more competitive tournaments. I thought LE is a club you go to at the older levels, high school.

The BBL Elite team is very hard to make but a great team. I guess its worth a shot. And I will see how he feels at the end of the summer.


Yes, LE is traditionally more of a draw in high school. If he really loves it, then give Helix a shot. As I said above, if he really progresses, the Elite team is always a great option. That being said, as with every club, each age group is very different. For example, as far as NJ teams go, the 2024 BBL Elite team is one of the top teams, but at 2025, Mad Dog is the better team, and BBL Elite and Tri-State have typically dominated the 2023 age group. If he is an outgoing kid, he will have no problem fitting in on a new team, and hopefully, there is a decent group of parents to socialize with on tournament weekends. A toxic group of parents can destroy the whole experience.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/16/19 12:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He plays for a local club right now and loves lacrosse, he has lots of friends on that team.

Which is why we stayed with it. He will be ready for the next level, next year (7th) most likely with more competitive tournaments. I thought LE is a club you go to at the older levels, high school.

The BBL Elite team is very hard to make but a great team. I guess its worth a shot. And I will see how he feels at the end of the summer.


Yes, LE is traditionally more of a draw in high school. If he really loves it, then give Helix a shot. As I said above, if he really progresses, the Elite team is always a great option. That being said, as with every club, each age group is very different. For example, as far as NJ teams go, the 2024 BBL Elite team is one of the top teams, but at 2025, Mad Dog is the better team, and BBL Elite and Tri-State have typically dominated the 2023 age group. If he is an outgoing kid, he will have no problem fitting in on a new team, and hopefully, there is a decent group of parents to socialize with on tournament weekends. A toxic group of parents can destroy the whole experience.

Are you saying BBL has toxic parents?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/16/19 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He plays for a local club right now and loves lacrosse, he has lots of friends on that team.

Which is why we stayed with it. He will be ready for the next level, next year (7th) most likely with more competitive tournaments. I thought LE is a club you go to at the older levels, high school.

The BBL Elite team is very hard to make but a great team. I guess its worth a shot. And I will see how he feels at the end of the summer.


Yes, LE is traditionally more of a draw in high school. If he really loves it, then give Helix a shot. As I said above, if he really progresses, the Elite team is always a great option. That being said, as with every club, each age group is very different. For example, as far as NJ teams go, the 2024 BBL Elite team is one of the top teams, but at 2025, Mad Dog is the better team, and BBL Elite and Tri-State have typically dominated the 2023 age group. If he is an outgoing kid, he will have no problem fitting in on a new team, and hopefully, there is a decent group of parents to socialize with on tournament weekends. A toxic group of parents can destroy the whole experience.

Are you saying BBL has toxic parents?


Not at all, it was simply a general statement, my interaction with most BBL parents has been positive...but every club is going to have a few
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/21/19 04:47 PM
What about team 91 (new NJ team)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 05/21/19 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What about team 91 (new NJ team)


It is not a new team, it used to be Leading Edge South. The LE South teams were typically pretty weak, even in B level tournaments. I don't think that much has changed. If this is the same poster with the 6th grader, the best 2025 team right now is Mad Dog, after that, there is a good mix of options between BBL, Tri State and Blue Star, they are all good programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/19/19 07:49 PM
I saw team 91 North (NJ) is having their first tryout this summer and seem to have a good director. Does anyone know anything about this new team forming?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/24/19 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I saw team 91 North (NJ) is having their first tryout this summer and seem to have a good director. Does anyone know anything about this new team forming?


Just what NJ needs, another team to dilute the talent even further. A good director means nothing without capable players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/27/19 04:50 PM
Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/28/19 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/01/19 02:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/01/19 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.[/quot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.


It never does.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/01/19 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.[/quot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.


It never does.


Not disagreeing with you, but it seems like a kid trying to get in front of his high school coach would gravitate towards the coach's club. It happens so often in MD, you would think that the mindset is similar elsewhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/01/19 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.[/quot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.


It never does.


Not disagreeing with you, but it seems like a kid trying to get in front of his high school coach would gravitate towards the coach's club. It happens so often in MD, you would think that the mindset is similar elsewhere.


The talent pool in NJ isn't that great. On top of that, the coaches club isn't doing well. They have become a tier 2 club.

The real question is how did the coach get that job. The AD and coach should be worried about keeping their jobs. That pool of parents can't be happy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/02/19 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.[/quot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Will there be a lot of players switching clubs this summer or mostly staying with current teams.
Anyone know historically what happened the summer before High School with switching? When do kids quit to focus on another sport?


A couple of clubs are going to have a hard time keeping their talent. Would rather try out for a national team than play B level lacrosse with kids that don't want to be there.


Curious whether the coaching change at one of the State's top high school programs will affect the club scene.


It never does.


Not disagreeing with you, but it seems like a kid trying to get in front of his high school coach would gravitate towards the coach's club. It happens so often in MD, you would think that the mindset is similar elsewhere.


The talent pool in NJ isn't that great. On top of that, the coaches club isn't doing well. They have become a tier 2 club.

The real question is how did the coach get that job. The AD and coach should be worried about keeping their jobs. That pool of parents can't be happy.


While not solid top to bottom (although the same can be said for all of the NJ clubs) they seem to have a few quality teams in the mix, and probably a handful of players that would be welcome on any other club. I suspect that the school parents will hold their breath for the moment and see how things progress. He's an experienced coach with a solid lacrosse pedigree, plus an unbelievable talent pool to work with.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/03/19 01:48 PM
So it looks like BBL will probably make the quarter finals based their very easy schedule so far at the WSYl. The test will be today against Long Island Express. Express shut them down easily earlier in the summer. Depending on who they play, they will never be able to touch any of the following teams. Wolfpack, Taz, True Illinois State 2024 Premier and Brotherly Love. If they lose to Express they will play Wolfpack and be done. Express has very large defenders who will be able to keep the attackmen away from the goal. We'll see.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/03/19 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like BBL will probably make the quarter finals based their very easy schedule so far at the WSYl. The test will be today against Long Island Express. Express shut them down easily earlier in the summer. Depending on who they play, they will never be able to touch any of the following teams. Wolfpack, Taz, True Illinois State 2024 Premier and Brotherly Love. If they lose to Express they will play Wolfpack and be done. Express has very large defenders who will be able to keep the attackmen away from the goal. We'll see.

Wow. BBl destroyed Express. Interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/03/19 08:10 PM
Original poster clearly has no clue what he’s talking about. Good luck in your C team tournament this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/03/19 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like BBL will probably make the quarter finals based their very easy schedule so far at the WSYl. The test will be today against Long Island Express. Express shut them down easily earlier in the summer. Depending on who they play, they will never be able to touch any of the following teams. Wolfpack, Taz, True Illinois State 2024 Premier and Brotherly Love. If they lose to Express they will play Wolfpack and be done. Express has very large defenders who will be able to keep the attackmen away from the goal. We'll see.

Wow. BBl destroyed Express. Interesting.


Great win for BBL and NJ lacrosse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/04/19 12:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like BBL will probably make the quarter finals based their very easy schedule so far at the WSYl. The test will be today against Long Island Express. Express shut them down easily earlier in the summer. Depending on who they play, they will never be able to touch any of the following teams. Wolfpack, Taz, True Illinois State 2024 Premier and Brotherly Love. If they lose to Express they will play Wolfpack and be done. Express has very large defenders who will be able to keep the attackmen away from the goal. We'll see.

Wow. BBl destroyed Express. Interesting.


Great win for BBL and NJ lacrosse


Everyone outside LI would like to see them beat the Wolfpack tomorrow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/04/19 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like BBL will probably make the quarter finals based their very easy schedule so far at the WSYl. The test will be today against Long Island Express. Express shut them down easily earlier in the summer. Depending on who they play, they will never be able to touch any of the following teams. Wolfpack, Taz, True Illinois State 2024 Premier and Brotherly Love. If they lose to Express they will play Wolfpack and be done. Express has very large defenders who will be able to keep the attackmen away from the goal. We'll see.

Wow. BBl destroyed Express. Interesting.


Great win for BBL and NJ lacrosse


Everyone outside LI would like to see them beat the Wolfpack tomorrow.

As expected Wolfpack beat BBL. As expected Wolfpack is playing Taz for the championship. Everyone has been waiting for years to see these two teams fight it out on TV. I would put my money on Wolfpack. They are consistent. Taz not so much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/05/19 03:29 PM
Just curious... was the WSYL BBL team their usual set of kids, or did they add kids just for this tourney? They looked pretty good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/06/19 12:55 AM
They added some kids to replace several over aged kids on their team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/10/19 01:20 PM
What NJ'25 team is going to make a run at the WSYL? BBL, Tri-State, Tribal?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/10/19 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What NJ'25 team is going to make a run at the WSYL? BBL, Tri-State, Tribal?


If Mad Dog decides to enter a team, they are probably the strongest 2025 team in NJ, United's 2025 is really good as well, but they don't get involved with WSYL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/10/19 06:49 PM
Which means kids aren’t on age if they aren’t doing WSYL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/10/19 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What NJ'25 team is going to make a run at the WSYL? BBL, Tri-State, Tribal?


If Mad Dog decides to enter a team, they are probably the strongest 2025 team in NJ, United's 2025 is really good as well, but they don't get involved with WSYL


BBL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/11/19 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What NJ'25 team is going to make a run at the WSYL? BBL, Tri-State, Tribal?


If Mad Dog decides to enter a team, they are probably the strongest 2025 team in NJ, United's 2025 is really good as well, but they don't get involved with WSYL


BBL


Tri-State is losing players at multiple levels. Mad Dog needs to pick up players, they have a great core crew but are very thin. BBL needs to pick up players as well.
Challenge for most teams are parents willing to spend $3,000 to $5,000 to get beat up by LI teams that are going 3 days a week for 11 months. Look at the scores from this year. The winning teams are playing fast with transition goals. NJ teams slow it down too much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/11/19 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which means kids aren’t on age if they aren’t doing WSYL


Not necessarily true, some teams/parents do not think that the experience is worth the cost. If you are not going to be top 2 or 3 at qualifier, it is a waste of time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/11/19 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What NJ'25 team is going to make a run at the WSYL? BBL, Tri-State, Tribal?


If Mad Dog decides to enter a team, they are probably the strongest 2025 team in NJ, United's 2025 is really good as well, but they don't get involved with WSYL


BBL


Tri-State is losing players at multiple levels. Mad Dog needs to pick up players, they have a great core crew but are very thin. BBL needs to pick up players as well.
Challenge for most teams are parents willing to spend $3,000 to $5,000 to get beat up by LI teams that are going 3 days a week for 11 months. Look at the scores from this year. The winning teams are playing fast with transition goals. NJ teams slow it down too much.


Since Tri-State is one of the few NJ clubs that goes to WSYL, they are able to draw kids in for their WSYL team, may not be the best model, but they will get the kids....and I wouldn't be surprised if you see a bump in Tri State from kids looking to play at SHP
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/22/19 12:57 PM
Anybody have info on Tribal? Seem to be making strong showing for WSYL, but not much on older teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/22/19 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have info on Tribal? Seem to be making strong showing for WSYL, but not much on older teams.


Best '25 team in NJ. They have some big kids so not sure if they will make the age requirement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/22/19 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody have info on Tribal? Seem to be making strong showing for WSYL, but not much on older teams.


Best '25 team in NJ. They have some big kids so not sure if they will make the age requirement.


I have heard that their '25 team is very good, did they have any games against Mad Dog or United this year. I know that both of those clubs have strong '25 teams as well, curious as to how they match up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/22/19 06:34 PM
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/22/19 08:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.


they are talking about 2025s not 2024s, but you are right BBL 2024 is top 2024 NJ team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/22/19 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.

Stop pretending your kid played for Wolfpack you BBL parent. No Wolfpack player would ever play for BBL which is full of holdbacks. Everyone knows this. Don't try to elevate BBL by pretending to play for Wolfpack. Please!!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/23/19 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.

Stop pretending your kid played for Wolfpack you BBL parent. No Wolfpack player would ever play for BBL which is full of holdbacks. Everyone knows this. Don't try to elevate BBL by pretending to play for Wolfpack. Please!!!!!!


You do realize that WSYL is age based right? Put down the vape and pay attention. Chances are your team will never make it to Denver.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/23/19 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.

Stop pretending your kid played for Wolfpack you BBL parent. No Wolfpack player would ever play for BBL which is full of holdbacks. Everyone knows this. Don't try to elevate BBL by pretending to play for Wolfpack. Please!!!!!!


You do realize that WSYL is age based right? Put down the vape and pay attention. Chances are your team will never make it to Denver.

Yes I do. But wait. Several of 2024 BBL holdbacks were left behind during the WSYL to take playing time away from the kids on the B Team. Every Wolfpack parent knows that the top BBL 2024 Team is full of holdbacks. It's laughable to think that any Wolfpack player would travel to the arm pit of the world to play on BBL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/23/19 10:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.

Stop pretending your kid played for Wolfpack you BBL parent. No Wolfpack player would ever play for BBL which is full of holdbacks. Everyone knows this. Don't try to elevate BBL by pretending to play for Wolfpack. Please!!!!!!


You do realize that WSYL is age based right? Put down the vape and pay attention. Chances are your team will never make it to Denver.

Yes I do. But wait. Several of 2024 BBL holdbacks were left behind during the WSYL to take playing time away from the kids on the B Team. Every Wolfpack parent knows that the top BBL 2024 Team is full of holdbacks. It's laughable to think that any Wolfpack player would travel to the arm pit of the world to play on BBL.


You're obviously a dullard. I know it's hard for you to comprehend that kids who play in WSYL in two consecutive years mean they played up the first year and played on age the second. It's blowing your mind and confusing you to think this is a bad thing and equates it to holdbacks. With that IQ, you don't make enough to live here. Good thing. We don't want to support your kids' food stamps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/23/19 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.

Stop pretending your kid played for Wolfpack you BBL parent. No Wolfpack player would ever play for BBL which is full of holdbacks. Everyone knows this. Don't try to elevate BBL by pretending to play for Wolfpack. Please!!!!!!


You do realize that WSYL is age based right? Put down the vape and pay attention. Chances are your team will never make it to Denver.

Yes I do. But wait. Several of 2024 BBL holdbacks were left behind during the WSYL to take playing time away from the kids on the B Team. Every Wolfpack parent knows that the top BBL 2024 Team is full of holdbacks. It's laughable to think that any Wolfpack player would travel to the arm pit of the world to play on BBL.


You're obviously a dullard. I know it's hard for you to comprehend that kids who play in WSYL in two consecutive years mean they played up the first year and played on age the second. It's blowing your mind and confusing you to think this is a bad thing and equates it to holdbacks. With that IQ, you don't make enough to live here. Good thing. We don't want to support your kids' food stamps.

You know what I am saying is true. I am not talking about the WSYL. I am NOT knocking the team that went to Denver. I am talking about the BBL Black 2024 team. There ARE holdbacks on the team. You can spin it any way you want -- but it's true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 03:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true! My kid played for 91 Wolfpack this year at the WSYL and the best team we played all week was BBL. Great kids and coaches. If it wasn’t for him wanting to stay local to play with his friends we’d be at BBL.

Stop pretending your kid played for Wolfpack you BBL parent. No Wolfpack player would ever play for BBL which is full of holdbacks. Everyone knows this. Don't try to elevate BBL by pretending to play for Wolfpack. Please!!!!!!


You do realize that WSYL is age based right? Put down the vape and pay attention. Chances are your team will never make it to Denver.

Yes I do. But wait. Several of 2024 BBL holdbacks were left behind during the WSYL to take playing time away from the kids on the B Team. Every Wolfpack parent knows that the top BBL 2024 Team is full of holdbacks. It's laughable to think that any Wolfpack player would travel to the arm pit of the world to play on BBL.


You're obviously a dullard. I know it's hard for you to comprehend that kids who play in WSYL in two consecutive years mean they played up the first year and played on age the second. It's blowing your mind and confusing you to think this is a bad thing and equates it to holdbacks. With that IQ, you don't make enough to live here. Good thing. We don't want to support your kids' food stamps.

You know what I am saying is true. I am not talking about the WSYL. I am NOT knocking the team that went to Denver. I am talking about the BBL Black 2024 team. There ARE holdbacks on the team. You can spin it any way you want -- but it's true.


You’re kidding right? Because if you’re not and you’re seriously asking point blank about the makeup of a youth team that you obviously know nothing about, then I take back what I said that you’re naturally slow. You’re just pathetic and I’ll leave you to continually wonder if the team that smacks yours in tourneys are on age or not. And you’re definitely not jersey material ‘cause you’re weak. Stay where you are and keep your muni job.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 12:49 PM
...because Jersey "Strong" posts anonymously on a childrens lacrosse board? Take that tough guy attitude down to Seaside and go fist pump with Paulie D and The Situation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
...because Jersey "Strong" posts anonymously on a childrens lacrosse board? Take that tough guy attitude down to Seaside and go fist pump with Paulie D and The Situation.


Ha! I was waiting for this from you. You're so unoriginal and predictable. Now go away. This board was quiet before you wandered in. Let's keep it that way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
...because Jersey "Strong" posts anonymously on a childrens lacrosse board? Take that tough guy attitude down to Seaside and go fist pump with Paulie D and The Situation.


Ha! I was waiting for this from you. You're so unoriginal and predictable. Now go away. This board was quiet before you wandered in. Let's keep it that way.

The purpose of this board is to discuss topics relating lacrosse. Holdbacks may be the single greatest concern to the game right now. This subject is not going away. Big shout out to all the parents who don't try to cheat the system.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
...because Jersey "Strong" posts anonymously on a childrens lacrosse board? Take that tough guy attitude down to Seaside and go fist pump with Paulie D and The Situation.


Ha! I was waiting for this from you. You're so unoriginal and predictable. Now go away. This board was quiet before you wandered in. Let's keep it that way.

The purpose of this board is to discuss topics relating lacrosse. Holdbacks may be the single greatest concern to the game right now. This subject is not going away. Big shout out to all the parents who don't try to cheat the system.


Ok at least we can agree on that issue. We are all against using holdbacks to gain unfair advantage. But we also dislike those who spread rumors and lies about other teams. You would probably react the same way and defend your team. Just know that in general, NJ, PA and NY fall mostly into the same category when it comes to average age of grade based teams as compared to DMV and New England.. Peace
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 05:54 PM
Why are Holdbacks the single greatest concern to the game right now? Honest question so please don't attack me
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are Holdbacks the single greatest concern to the game right now? Honest question so please don't attack me


Obviously, so long as tournaments are grade based, not much can be done about the age of a player so long as he is playing in his proper graduating year. I think that the bigger issue is when teams, and not pointing to any NJ teams, bring in older players (by graduation year) to compete in a tournament. For example (and I have no direct knowledge of what actually happened), there are allegations being made that certain teams that played the NLF championship this past weekend had 2023 kids playing for the 2024 team, that, in my opinion, is pretty underhanded. I'm sure that plenty of teams in NJ have kids that are older as compared to their peers in their graduating class, but nothing improper with that under current rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 07:48 PM
Does that really happen (not being coy asking that) ? I would think that with how competitive these teams/kids/parents are, no one would even think of playing down an age group....big shot to the ego of the kids...and the parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 07:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are Holdbacks the single greatest concern to the game right now? Honest question so please don't attack me


Obviously, so long as tournaments are grade based, not much can be done about the age of a player so long as he is playing in his proper graduating year. I think that the bigger issue is when teams, and not pointing to any NJ teams, bring in older players (by graduation year) to compete in a tournament. For example (and I have no direct knowledge of what actually happened), there are allegations being made that certain teams that played the NLF championship this past weekend had 2023 kids playing for the 2024 team, that, in my opinion, is pretty underhanded. I'm sure that plenty of teams in NJ have kids that are older as compared to their peers in their graduating class, but nothing improper with that under current rules.

From what I have learned, parents have a "reasonable expectation" that their kids will be matched up against others in their age range. Hopefully this will never have to be tested in court.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/24/19 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are Holdbacks the single greatest concern to the game right now? Honest question so please don't attack me


Obviously, so long as tournaments are grade based, not much can be done about the age of a player so long as he is playing in his proper graduating year. I think that the bigger issue is when teams, and not pointing to any NJ teams, bring in older players (by graduation year) to compete in a tournament. For example (and I have no direct knowledge of what actually happened), there are allegations being made that certain teams that played the NLF championship this past weekend had 2023 kids playing for the 2024 team, that, in my opinion, is pretty underhanded. I'm sure that plenty of teams in NJ have kids that are older as compared to their peers in their graduating class, but nothing improper with that under current rules.

From what I have learned, parents have a "reasonable expectation" that their kids will be matched up against others in their age range. Hopefully this will never have to be tested in court.


This! Well said.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/25/19 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are Holdbacks the single greatest concern to the game right now? Honest question so please don't attack me


Obviously, so long as tournaments are grade based, not much can be done about the age of a player so long as he is playing in his proper graduating year. I think that the bigger issue is when teams, and not pointing to any NJ teams, bring in older players (by graduation year) to compete in a tournament. For example (and I have no direct knowledge of what actually happened), there are allegations being made that certain teams that played the NLF championship this past weekend had 2023 kids playing for the 2024 team, that, in my opinion, is pretty underhanded. I'm sure that plenty of teams in NJ have kids that are older as compared to their peers in their graduating class, but nothing improper with that under current rules.

From what I have learned, parents have a "reasonable expectation" that their kids will be matched up against others in their age range. Hopefully this will never have to be tested in court.


This! Well said.


Unfortunately, you are dealing with a system that is completely "unreasonable" at this point
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/25/19 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are Holdbacks the single greatest concern to the game right now? Honest question so please don't attack me


Obviously, so long as tournaments are grade based, not much can be done about the age of a player so long as he is playing in his proper graduating year. I think that the bigger issue is when teams, and not pointing to any NJ teams, bring in older players (by graduation year) to compete in a tournament. For example (and I have no direct knowledge of what actually happened), there are allegations being made that certain teams that played the NLF championship this past weekend had 2023 kids playing for the 2024 team, that, in my opinion, is pretty underhanded. I'm sure that plenty of teams in NJ have kids that are older as compared to their peers in their graduating class, but nothing improper with that under current rules.

From what I have learned, parents have a "reasonable expectation" that their kids will be matched up against others in their age range. Hopefully this will never have to be tested in court.


This! Well said.


Unfortunately, you are dealing with a system that is completely "unreasonable" at this point

I'm not sure a court would have much sympathy for the "but other people do it" excuse. Especially when dealing with children. Again, I hope that there is never a reason to test this in court.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/19 03:01 PM
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/19 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?


A couple are new but pretty much the same team with most of the players from WSYL remaining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/19 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?


A couple are new but pretty much the same team with most of the players from WSYL remaining.


US Club Lax just posted the Final Rankings for 2019. BBL 2024 Ranked #4.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/19 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?


A couple are new but pretty much the same team with most of the players from WSYL remaining.


US Club Lax just posted the Final Rankings for 2019. BBL 2024 Ranked #4.


BBL is the best '24 in NJ. No surprise Leading Edge was the top NJ team from '23 up. BBL '20 and TriState '21 in top 15.

'21 Mad Dog National is a great team but sure they should count as an NJ team. Going to be interesting to see if the CA & TX kids continue to play with the team after 9/1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/19 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?


A couple are new but pretty much the same team with most of the players from WSYL remaining.


US Club Lax just posted the Final Rankings for 2019. BBL 2024 Ranked #4.

It would be interesting to see the criteria used for compiling this list - both subjective and objective.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/19 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?


A couple are new but pretty much the same team with most of the players from WSYL remaining.


US Club Lax just posted the Final Rankings for 2019. BBL 2024 Ranked #4.

It would be interesting to see the criteria used for compiling this list - both subjective and objective.


(This info is from US Club Lax's Instagram. Copied and pasted.)

Understanding the Rankings:

Rankings are determined using these factors: tournament strength, playoff outcomes, undefeated points, winning percentage and bracket placement.

How RPI is calculated:
The index comprises a team's winning %, it's opponents' winning %, the winning % of those opponents' opponents and goal differential (maximum 8 goals). The opponents' winning % and the winning % of those opponents' opponents both comprise the Strength of Schedule (SOS).

Strength of Schedule:
After playing in a tournament and or bracket the computer will look at the winning %/opponents' win % and opponents' opponent's win % of those in the bracket and will calculate whether this tournament and or bracket is a SOS denomination of 1 through 5 (5 being the Highest)

Head to Head:
"We beat that team!", "We have beaten the #7 team how are we ranked lower?".. We get these questions every time we put out the rankings. Head to head match ups only matter for the SOS portion of the rankings.. Just because you beat a team ahead of you does not mean you leap frog them in the rankings. Example: If Duke basketball is #1 and loses to a non-ranked opponent, that does not mean that, that team now becomes the #1 team in the country. It helps their overall SOS but does not catapult teams ahead of them.

Losing Record and Ranked or Winning Record and Not Ranked:
"We are 17-2. Why are you ignoring us? There is a team with a losing record that is ranked above us, how is that possible?".. If there is a team with a losing record in the rankings, you have to look at their SOS. That means they are playing in the top brackets and tournaments in the country, week in and week out. If your team has an amazing record and is not ranked, it has nothing to do with US Club Lacrosse ignoring your program or team. It simply means the computer calculated that the tournament, bracket or teams you played against was not competitive enough.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?


A couple are new but pretty much the same team with most of the players from WSYL remaining.


US Club Lax just posted the Final Rankings for 2019. BBL 2024 Ranked #4.

It would be interesting to see the criteria used for compiling this list - both subjective and objective.


(This info is from US Club Lax's Instagram. Copied and pasted.)

Understanding the Rankings:

Rankings are determined using these factors: tournament strength, playoff outcomes, undefeated points, winning percentage and bracket placement.

How RPI is calculated:
The index comprises a team's winning %, it's opponents' winning %, the winning % of those opponents' opponents and goal differential (maximum 8 goals). The opponents' winning % and the winning % of those opponents' opponents both comprise the Strength of Schedule (SOS).

Strength of Schedule:
After playing in a tournament and or bracket the computer will look at the winning %/opponents' win % and opponents' opponent's win % of those in the bracket and will calculate whether this tournament and or bracket is a SOS denomination of 1 through 5 (5 being the Highest)

Head to Head:
"We beat that team!", "We have beaten the #7 team how are we ranked lower?".. We get these questions every time we put out the rankings. Head to head match ups only matter for the SOS portion of the rankings.. Just because you beat a team ahead of you does not mean you leap frog them in the rankings. Example: If Duke basketball is #1 and loses to a non-ranked opponent, that does not mean that, that team now becomes the #1 team in the country. It helps their overall SOS but does not catapult teams ahead of them.

Losing Record and Ranked or Winning Record and Not Ranked:
"We are 17-2. Why are you ignoring us? There is a team with a losing record that is ranked above us, how is that possible?".. If there is a team with a losing record in the rankings, you have to look at their SOS. That means they are playing in the top brackets and tournaments in the country, week in and week out. If your team has an amazing record and is not ranked, it has nothing to do with US Club Lacrosse ignoring your program or team. It simply means the computer calculated that the tournament, bracket or teams you played against was not competitive enough.



"Nissan WSYL/Inside Lacrosse 13U Final World Rankings" just came out.. BBL ranked 2nd.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 03:12 PM
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team


Doesn't matter. Tribal is taking over. Everyone else is on notice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team

10 players at tryouts. Not sure they can create a team. Their top 2024 moved to Blue Star and United. MD Girls Directors left for T3. Not good
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 06:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team

10 players at tryouts. Not sure they can create a team. Their top 2024 moved to Blue Star and United. MD Girls Directors left for T3. Not good


Seems like a bunch of kids, not just from MD, migrated to Blue Star. Tough market for Mad Dog with United up the street. The MD 2025 team is pretty solid, perhaps they can build off of that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the word on BBL 2024? Did they cut any players. If so, from what teams did they take players?


A couple are new but pretty much the same team with most of the players from WSYL remaining.


US Club Lax just posted the Final Rankings for 2019. BBL 2024 Ranked #4.

It would be interesting to see the criteria used for compiling this list - both subjective and objective.


(This info is from US Club Lax's Instagram. Copied and pasted.)

Understanding the Rankings:

Rankings are determined using these factors: tournament strength, playoff outcomes, undefeated points, winning percentage and bracket placement.

How RPI is calculated:
The index comprises a team's winning %, it's opponents' winning %, the winning % of those opponents' opponents and goal differential (maximum 8 goals). The opponents' winning % and the winning % of those opponents' opponents both comprise the Strength of Schedule (SOS).

Strength of Schedule:
After playing in a tournament and or bracket the computer will look at the winning %/opponents' win % and opponents' opponent's win % of those in the bracket and will calculate whether this tournament and or bracket is a SOS denomination of 1 through 5 (5 being the Highest)

Head to Head:
"We beat that team!", "We have beaten the #7 team how are we ranked lower?".. We get these questions every time we put out the rankings. Head to head match ups only matter for the SOS portion of the rankings.. Just because you beat a team ahead of you does not mean you leap frog them in the rankings. Example: If Duke basketball is #1 and loses to a non-ranked opponent, that does not mean that, that team now becomes the #1 team in the country. It helps their overall SOS but does not catapult teams ahead of them.

Losing Record and Ranked or Winning Record and Not Ranked:
"We are 17-2. Why are you ignoring us? There is a team with a losing record that is ranked above us, how is that possible?".. If there is a team with a losing record in the rankings, you have to look at their SOS. That means they are playing in the top brackets and tournaments in the country, week in and week out. If your team has an amazing record and is not ranked, it has nothing to do with US Club Lacrosse ignoring your program or team. It simply means the computer calculated that the tournament, bracket or teams you played against was not competitive enough.



"Nissan WSYL/Inside Lacrosse 13U Final World Rankings" just came out. BBL ranked 2nd.

I wouldn't be bragging about this BBL parent. The hard reality is going to take hold next summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


"Nissan WSYL/Inside Lacrosse 13U Final World Rankings" just came out. BBL ranked 2nd.

I wouldn't be bragging about this BBL parent. The hard reality is going to take hold next summer.


Here we go.. he's back trolling the jersey board. I'll play.. what's this hard reality that's brewing in that melon of yours?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/19 09:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team

10 players at tryouts. Not sure they can create a team. Their top 2024 moved to Blue Star and United. MD Girls Directors left for T3. Not good


Seems like a bunch of kids, not just from MD, migrated to Blue Star. Tough market for Mad Dog with United up the street. The MD 2025 team is pretty solid, perhaps they can build off of that.


Great White Lacrosse/Shark River took all of MD younger teams. $3,000 vs $900. No brainer for a 4th, 5th & 6th graders. Not sure what they have to build on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/19 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team

10 players at tryouts. Not sure they can create a team. Their top 2024 moved to Blue Star and United. MD Girls Directors left for T3. Not good


Seems like a bunch of kids, not just from MD, migrated to Blue Star. Tough market for Mad Dog with United up the street. The MD 2025 team is pretty solid, perhaps they can build off of that.


Great White Lacrosse/Shark River took all of MD younger teams. $3,000 vs $900. No brainer for a 4th, 5th & 6th graders. Not sure what they have to build on.


Any truth to Tommy D moving back to NJ to taking over the CBA job and fixing the issues at Mad Dog NJ. Stagnitta taking over CA after he is done at Hopkins.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/19 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team

10 players at tryouts. Not sure they can create a team. Their top 2024 moved to Blue Star and United. MD Girls Directors left for T3. Not good


Seems like a bunch of kids, not just from MD, migrated to Blue Star. Tough market for Mad Dog with United up the street. The MD 2025 team is pretty solid, perhaps they can build off of that.


Great White Lacrosse/Shark River took all of MD younger teams. $3,000 vs $900. No brainer for a 4th, 5th & 6th graders. Not sure what they have to build on.


Not sure how anybody can expect to get another program up and running in the area. I guess the questions is, what do you get for $900. Are they going to play tournaments (no way $900 covers tournament fees), paid coaches or parent coaches, do they have reliable practice space...when you factor in all of the variables, then you can decide whether it is a good deal. The other problem is that, as these kids get older, and if they turn into higher level players, they will migrate to other clubs which are perceived as "the team to be on"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/19 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team

10 players at tryouts. Not sure they can create a team. Their top 2024 moved to Blue Star and United. MD Girls Directors left for T3. Not good


Seems like a bunch of kids, not just from MD, migrated to Blue Star. Tough market for Mad Dog with United up the street. The MD 2025 team is pretty solid, perhaps they can build off of that.


Great White Lacrosse/Shark River took all of MD younger teams. $3,000 vs $900. No brainer for a 4th, 5th & 6th graders. Not sure what they have to build on.


Any truth to Tommy D moving back to NJ to taking over the CBA job and fixing the issues at Mad Dog NJ. Stagnitta taking over CA after he is done at Hopkins.


Not true
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/19 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


"Nissan WSYL/Inside Lacrosse 13U Final World Rankings" just came out. BBL ranked 2nd.

I wouldn't be bragging about this BBL parent. The hard reality is going to take hold next summer.


Here we go.. he's back trolling the jersey board. I'll play.. what's this hard reality that's brewing in that melon of yours?

Guess you'll have to wait and see. Hopefully you guys won't see Wolfpack, Madlax, Eclipse or Taz in the fall or summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/19 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


"Nissan WSYL/Inside Lacrosse 13U Final World Rankings" just came out. BBL ranked 2nd.

I wouldn't be bragging about this BBL parent. The hard reality is going to take hold next summer.


Here we go.. he's back trolling the jersey board. I'll play.. what's this hard reality that's brewing in that melon of yours?

Guess you'll have to wait and see. Hopefully you guys won't see Wolfpack, Madlax, Eclipse or Taz in the fall or summer.


I see you're family is back from your annual Busch Gardens vacation and you'd been hitting the sauce hard again because you're not making any sense. The whole point of being in a top lax club IS to play the top teams and hopefully win and be competitive. We hate blowing out inferior teams because it's a total waste of time. You wouldn't know that because your son is on a B team and play weak teams. Plus you're teaching him to be afraid of playing good teams which will turn him into a wimp like you are. That's ok with me. By the way, do your homework, we'd played all the teams (except Eclipse) you mentioned and we're looking forward to playing them again. Keep hitting the sauce wimp.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/19 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team


Doesn't matter. Tribal is taking over. Everyone else is on notice.


Pump the brakes, Tribal has one good team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/19 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team


Doesn't matter. Tribal is taking over. Everyone else is on notice.


Pump the brakes, Tribal has one good team


South (Jersey) will Rise Again!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/19 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team


Doesn't matter. Tribal is taking over. Everyone else is on notice.


Pump the brakes, Tribal has one good team


South (Jersey) will Rise Again!


Dumdum.. you got it wrong... you should hope instead the entire state should rise against LI and MD. Jersey is better off without people like you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/19 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team


Doesn't matter. Tribal is taking over. Everyone else is on notice.


Pump the brakes, Tribal has one good team


South (Jersey) will Rise Again!


All kidding aside, does the proximity to the Philly area programs create an issue retaining players. If one were very ambitions, Maryland is not really that far either.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/19 08:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


"Nissan WSYL/Inside Lacrosse 13U Final World Rankings" just came out. BBL ranked 2nd.

I wouldn't be bragging about this BBL parent. The hard reality is going to take hold next summer.


Here we go.. he's back trolling the jersey board. I'll play.. what's this hard reality that's brewing in that melon of yours?

Guess you'll have to wait and see. Hopefully you guys won't see Wolfpack, Madlax, Eclipse or Taz in the fall or summer.


I see you're family is back from your annual Busch Gardens vacation and you'd been hitting the sauce hard again because you're not making any sense. The whole point of being in a top lax club IS to play the top teams and hopefully win and be competitive. We hate blowing out inferior teams because it's a total waste of time. You wouldn't know that because your son is on a B team and play weak teams. Plus you're teaching him to be afraid of playing good teams which will turn him into a wimp like you are. That's ok with me. By the way, do your homework, we'd played all the teams (except Eclipse) you mentioned and we're looking forward to playing them again. Keep hitting the sauce wimp.

Wow. I seem to have really got under your skin. Good luck with your season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/19 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team


Doesn't matter. Tribal is taking over. Everyone else is on notice.


Pump the brakes, Tribal has one good team


South (Jersey) will Rise Again!


All kidding aside, does the proximity to the Philly area programs create an issue retaining players. If one were very ambitions, Maryland is not really that far either.



I can tell you it happens and it's not unique to NJ. Top players will always seek top teams that will give them the opportunity to play in top brackets. For instance, players from PA playing with LI teams (Express and 91). Imagine that commute. But can you and I really claim we wouldn't do the same for our sons?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/19 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


"Nissan WSYL/Inside Lacrosse 13U Final World Rankings" just came out. BBL ranked 2nd.

I wouldn't be bragging about this BBL parent. The hard reality is going to take hold next summer.


Here we go.. he's back trolling the jersey board. I'll play.. what's this hard reality that's brewing in that melon of yours?

Guess you'll have to wait and see. Hopefully you guys won't see Wolfpack, Madlax, Eclipse or Taz in the fall or summer.


I see you're family is back from your annual Busch Gardens vacation and you'd been hitting the sauce hard again because you're not making any sense. The whole point of being in a top lax club IS to play the top teams and hopefully win and be competitive. We hate blowing out inferior teams because it's a total waste of time. You wouldn't know that because your son is on a B team and play weak teams. Plus you're teaching him to be afraid of playing good teams which will turn him into a wimp like you are. That's ok with me. By the way, do your homework, we'd played all the teams (except Eclipse) you mentioned and we're looking forward to playing them again. Keep hitting the sauce wimp.

Wow. I seem to have really got under your skin. Good luck with your season.


Disappointing.. you're not worth it.. good luck with your son's B team, there's nothing wrong with it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/19 12:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like there were quite a few player moves at 2023, was Mad Dog able to reformulate a team


Doesn't matter. Tribal is taking over. Everyone else is on notice.


Pump the brakes, Tribal has one good team


South (Jersey) will Rise Again!


All kidding aside, does the proximity to the Philly area programs create an issue retaining players. If one were very ambitions, Maryland is not really that far either.



I can tell you it happens and it's not unique to NJ. Top players will always seek top teams that will give them the opportunity to play in top brackets. For instance, players from PA playing with LI teams (Express and 91). Imagine that commute. But can you and I really claim we wouldn't do the same for our sons?


Your are right on that with commute and doing whatever it take for your son. We are on LI and was invited to a philly team that is the tops in my kids age and coaching and we are doing it. It will be a ton in the car but a sacrifice and a good lesson for my boy on wanting something. Anyone else do this type of commute? you're experience? Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/19 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can tell you it happens and it's not unique to NJ. Top players will always seek top teams that will give them the opportunity to play in top brackets. For instance, players from PA playing with LI teams (Express and 91). Imagine that commute. But can you and I really claim we wouldn't do the same for our sons?


Your are right on that with commute and doing whatever it take for your son. We are on LI and was invited to a philly team that is the tops in my kids age and coaching and we are doing it. It will be a ton in the car but a sacrifice and a good lesson for my boy on wanting something. Anyone else do this type of commute? you're experience? Thanks


That's dedication! Always look at the bright side, you get to spend quality time with your son on your car ride, he will improve his game and will meet kids outside his circle. Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/19 01:25 PM
Looking for some elite high school training for the fall. I have been looking at the BBL site. Does anyone know of any other clubs or coaches that have good classes or clinics.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/19 03:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for some elite high school training for the fall. I have been looking at the BBL site. Does anyone know of any other clubs or coaches that have good classes or clinics.


Depending on where you live, shop around clubs in your area by calling the club director and better yet, ask to speak to the coach of your son's year and ask for a skills assessment (hopefully free or reduced fee). My 2 cents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/08/19 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for some elite high school training for the fall. I have been looking at the BBL site. Does anyone know of any other clubs or coaches that have good classes or clinics.


Depending on where you live, shop around clubs in your area by calling the club director and better yet, ask to speak to the coach of your son's year and ask for a skills assessment (hopefully free or reduced fee). My 2 cents.


Most clubs have a fall programming for high school. Does you current club not offer fall practices and tournaments, that would raise a red flag for me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/11/19 01:03 PM
What happened to Mad Dog NJ. Multiple sources saying they only have one team, 2025s, and a Sea Girt middies dad is trying to move that team to United to play for the Manasquan High School coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/12/19 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Mad Dog NJ. Multiple sources saying they only have one team, 2025s, and a Sea Girt middies dad is trying to move that team to United to play for the Manasquan High School coach.


Interesting considering that United already has a solid 2025 team. That being said, I don't understand why there are so many issues at Mad Dog, my interactions with their current coaches and director have always been positive, is this just fallout from mismanagement that occurred in prior years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/05/19 11:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Mad Dog NJ. Multiple sources saying they only have one team, 2025s, and a Sea Girt middies dad is trying to move that team to United to play for the Manasquan High School coach.


Interesting considering that United already has a solid 2025 team. That being said, I don't understand why there are so many issues at Mad Dog, my interactions with their current coaches and director have always been positive, is this just fallout from mismanagement that occurred in prior years.


They shipped one of their directors to LA. Good move for the director, from the looks of it, they are down to 1 team in NJ.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/09/19 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Mad Dog NJ. Multiple sources saying they only have one team, 2025s, and a Sea Girt middies dad is trying to move that team to United to play for the Manasquan High School coach.


Interesting considering that United already has a solid 2025 team. That being said, I don't understand why there are so many issues at Mad Dog, my interactions with their current coaches and director have always been positive, is this just fallout from mismanagement that occurred in prior years.


They shipped one of their directors to LA. Good move for the director, from the looks of it, they are down to 1 team in NJ.


Correction, the United 2024 is their strong team, not 2025, either way, that MD 2025 team is very good
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/10/19 05:29 PM
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/10/19 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!


Not really sure what to make of it, but with the tri-state kids and a few other additions, the blue star 2023 team could be interesting. A lot of the tri-state kids that left the last 2 years were from the old shore team, a bunch to blue star and a few went to Leading Edge, there was some decent talent on that shore team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/11/19 02:46 PM
Bluestar 2023 not interesting at all. Have 2 maybe( stress maybe) 3 decent players (one an ex-tristate for sure) played them over summer-not a real challenge
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/11/19 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluestar 2023 not interesting at all. Have 2 maybe( stress maybe) 3 decent players (one an ex-tristate for sure) played them over summer-not a real challenge


The team added several new players since the summer, so last summer is not really relevant to the discussion, but no way to know what type of impact there will be until they play a few games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/11/19 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluestar 2023 not interesting at all. Have 2 maybe( stress maybe) 3 decent players (one an ex-tristate for sure) played them over summer-not a real challenge

My son does not play for Blue Star, but I have heard good things about the program. I can tell you right now that there are more than 3 decent players. Kids move around for good and bad reasons.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/11/19 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluestar 2023 not interesting at all. Have 2 maybe( stress maybe) 3 decent players (one an ex-tristate for sure) played them over summer-not a real challenge


The team added several new players since the summer, so last summer is not really relevant to the discussion, but no way to know what type of impact there will be until they play a few games.

We'll see this summer! I'm still not worried
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/11/19 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluestar 2023 not interesting at all. Have 2 maybe( stress maybe) 3 decent players (one an ex-tristate for sure) played them over summer-not a real challenge


The team added several new players since the summer, so last summer is not really relevant to the discussion, but no way to know what type of impact there will be until they play a few games.

We'll see this summer! I'm still not worried


Not sure why you would be worried either way. The discussion was simply about the team improving, nobody said anything about beating your son's team, whatever that team may be, or any other team. Either way, I'm glad that you won't lose any sleep over it, it would be pathetic if you did.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/11/19 07:29 PM
What about BBL or NJ Riot - where are they ranked for the class of 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/11/19 08:38 PM
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
What about BBL or NJ Riot - where are they ranked for the class of 2023?


Putting aside the reclass argument, Leading Edge may be the strongest NJ 2023 team, and that is just based on last seasons results, plus the new additions. BBL is also really strong, they had some quality wins at Naptown, but had a rough tournament at Milion event, on a good day, they probably match up well with LE. Not really sure about Riot, not that they aren't a strong team, just don't know how they did this past summer. Since there was a lot of player movement after the season, hard to tell what is going to happen until the teams play a few games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/12/19 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!


TriState was bad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 09/13/19 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!


TriState was bad


Unfortunate considering how good the shore 2023 team was a few years back, definitely a lost opportunity with that group, and now Leading Edge and Blue Star benefit. While there is always a bit of re-shuffling before high school, the tri state situation was pretty substantial this year
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/07/19 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!


TriState was bad


Unfortunate considering how good the shore 2023 team was a few years back, definitely a lost opportunity with that group, and now Leading Edge and Blue Star benefit. While there is always a bit of re-shuffling before high school, the tri state situation was pretty substantial this year


Wasn't Tri-Stste bought out by Mad Dog Lacrosse? I heard there were some internal issues with the owners which led them to sell it to Mad Dog - can anyone verify that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/07/19 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!


TriState was bad


Unfortunate considering how good the shore 2023 team was a few years back, definitely a lost opportunity with that group, and now Leading Edge and Blue Star benefit. While there is always a bit of re-shuffling before high school, the tri state situation was pretty substantial this year


Wasn't Tri-Stste bought out by Mad Dog Lacrosse? I heard there were some internal issues with the owners which led them to sell it to Mad Dog - can anyone verify that?


Would be a smart move for both clubs, but I don't think that there is any truth to that rumor.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/08/19 07:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!


TriState was bad


Unfortunate considering how good the shore 2023 team was a few years back, definitely a lost opportunity with that group, and now Leading Edge and Blue Star benefit. While there is always a bit of re-shuffling before high school, the tri state situation was pretty substantial this year


Wasn't Tri-Stste bought out by Mad Dog Lacrosse? I heard there were some internal issues with the owners which led them to sell it to Mad Dog - can anyone verify that?


Would be a smart move for both clubs, but I don't think that there is any truth to that rumor.


Mad Dog NJ only has National Teams at the High School level. Unless Tri-State needs the cash no reason to talk to Mad Dog. They get most of their top High School players as is.

Heard Mad Dog numbers are so low they have 2027s playing on their 2025 B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/08/19 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by NJ_Laxer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's going on with TriState? Blue Start picked up a number of their players. It only took MV 3 years!


TriState was bad


Unfortunate considering how good the shore 2023 team was a few years back, definitely a lost opportunity with that group, and now Leading Edge and Blue Star benefit. While there is always a bit of re-shuffling before high school, the tri state situation was pretty substantial this year


Wasn't Tri-Stste bought out by Mad Dog Lacrosse? I heard there were some internal issues with the owners which led them to sell it to Mad Dog - can anyone verify that?


Would be a smart move for both clubs, but I don't think that there is any truth to that rumor.


Mad Dog NJ only has National Teams at the High School level. Unless Tri-State needs the cash no reason to talk to Mad Dog. They get most of their top High School players as is.

Heard Mad Dog numbers are so low they have 2027s playing on their 2025 B team.


I think that both programs have their issues, but with the national team and the west coast program it seems as though Mad Dog has a better organization, they just need to jump start the NJ program and Tri State would be a good match to fill that need. Not suggesting that it is a possibility, just that it would make sense. While Tri State has some very good high school players, I am not sure that they are still the draw that they used to be for high school, LE, BBL and Blue Star seem to be more attractive right now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/08/19 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I think that both programs have their issues, but with the national team and the west coast program it seems as though Mad Dog has a better organization, they just need to jump start the NJ program and Tri State would be a good match to fill that need. Not suggesting that it is a possibility, just that it would make sense. While Tri State has some very good high school players, I am not sure that they are still the draw that they used to be for high school, LE, BBL and Blue Star seem to be more attractive right now.



Whatever it may be, we need NJ lacrosse to flourish and constantly improve and be among the top in the nation. I see Tribal 2025 ranked high (#7) in usclub. Congrats to them. I hope they will go and qualify for the WSYL and represent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/09/19 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I think that both programs have their issues, but with the national team and the west coast program it seems as though Mad Dog has a better organization, they just need to jump start the NJ program and Tri State would be a good match to fill that need. Not suggesting that it is a possibility, just that it would make sense. While Tri State has some very good high school players, I am not sure that they are still the draw that they used to be for high school, LE, BBL and Blue Star seem to be more attractive right now.



Whatever it may be, we need NJ lacrosse to flourish and constantly improve and be among the top in the nation. I see Tribal 2025 ranked high (#7) in usclub. Congrats to them. I hope they will go and qualify for the WSYL and represent.


NJ does flourish at the high school level, LE, BBL, Blue Star, and Tri-State are constantly sending player to D1 programs.
WSYL shouldn't be a measure of success. NJ has too many programs with not enough good coaches and players at the youth level. Hard to compete with LI at 12 years old they build their teams to win now. The current 2025 Jersey teams will be lucky to win 2 games in Denver unless Tribal & Mad Dog become the Tribal Dogs and send one team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/09/19 11:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I think that both programs have their issues, but with the national team and the west coast program it seems as though Mad Dog has a better organization, they just need to jump start the NJ program and Tri State would be a good match to fill that need. Not suggesting that it is a possibility, just that it would make sense. While Tri State has some very good high school players, I am not sure that they are still the draw that they used to be for high school, LE, BBL and Blue Star seem to be more attractive right now.



Whatever it may be, we need NJ lacrosse to flourish and constantly improve and be among the top in the nation. I see Tribal 2025 ranked high (#7) in usclub. Congrats to them. I hope they will go and qualify for the WSYL and represent.


NJ does flourish at the high school level, LE, BBL, Blue Star, and Tri-State are constantly sending player to D1 programs.
WSYL shouldn't be a measure of success. NJ has too many programs with not enough good coaches and players at the youth level. Hard to compete with LI at 12 years old they build their teams to win now. The current 2025 Jersey teams will be lucky to win 2 games in Denver unless Tribal & Mad Dog become the Tribal Dogs and send one team.


Good points. NJ should also organize and help each other elevate our youth program. Perhaps, create a league similar to HoCo in DMV.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/10/19 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I think that both programs have their issues, but with the national team and the west coast program it seems as though Mad Dog has a better organization, they just need to jump start the NJ program and Tri State would be a good match to fill that need. Not suggesting that it is a possibility, just that it would make sense. While Tri State has some very good high school players, I am not sure that they are still the draw that they used to be for high school, LE, BBL and Blue Star seem to be more attractive right now.



Whatever it may be, we need NJ lacrosse to flourish and constantly improve and be among the top in the nation. I see Tribal 2025 ranked high (#7) in usclub. Congrats to them. I hope they will go and qualify for the WSYL and represent.


NJ does flourish at the high school level, LE, BBL, Blue Star, and Tri-State are constantly sending player to D1 programs.
WSYL shouldn't be a measure of success. NJ has too many programs with not enough good coaches and players at the youth level. Hard to compete with LI at 12 years old they build their teams to win now. The current 2025 Jersey teams will be lucky to win 2 games in Denver unless Tribal & Mad Dog become the Tribal Dogs and send one team.


Good points. NJ should also organize and help each other elevate our youth program. Perhaps, create a league similar to HoCo in DMV.

Don't waste your money on the WSYL. The only good thing about the tournament is that it is age based. Everyone knows that Long Island Express is going to take the cake this year. Save the money and put it in your kid's college fund.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/10/19 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I think that both programs have their issues, but with the national team and the west coast program it seems as though Mad Dog has a better organization, they just need to jump start the NJ program and Tri State would be a good match to fill that need. Not suggesting that it is a possibility, just that it would make sense. While Tri State has some very good high school players, I am not sure that they are still the draw that they used to be for high school, LE, BBL and Blue Star seem to be more attractive right now.



Whatever it may be, we need NJ lacrosse to flourish and constantly improve and be among the top in the nation. I see Tribal 2025 ranked high (#7) in usclub. Congrats to them. I hope they will go and qualify for the WSYL and represent.


NJ does flourish at the high school level, LE, BBL, Blue Star, and Tri-State are constantly sending player to D1 programs.
WSYL shouldn't be a measure of success. NJ has too many programs with not enough good coaches and players at the youth level. Hard to compete with LI at 12 years old they build their teams to win now. The current 2025 Jersey teams will be lucky to win 2 games in Denver unless Tribal & Mad Dog become the Tribal Dogs and send one team.


Good points. NJ should also organize and help each other elevate our youth program. Perhaps, create a league similar to HoCo in DMV.

Don't waste your money on the WSYL. The only good thing about the tournament is that it is age based. Everyone knows that Long Island Express is going to take the cake this year. Save the money and put it in your kid's college fund.


To each his own. We don't tell you how to spend your money. With your logic, why would LIE bother going to WSYL if it the outcome is a certainty, what then, for a trophy? that makes them just as foolish.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/14/19 05:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


I think that both programs have their issues, but with the national team and the west coast program it seems as though Mad Dog has a better organization, they just need to jump start the NJ program and Tri State would be a good match to fill that need. Not suggesting that it is a possibility, just that it would make sense. While Tri State has some very good high school players, I am not sure that they are still the draw that they used to be for high school, LE, BBL and Blue Star seem to be more attractive right now.



Whatever it may be, we need NJ lacrosse to flourish and constantly improve and be among the top in the nation. I see Tribal 2025 ranked high (#7) in usclub. Congrats to them. I hope they will go and qualify for the WSYL and represent.


NJ does flourish at the high school level, LE, BBL, Blue Star, and Tri-State are constantly sending player to D1 programs.
WSYL shouldn't be a measure of success. NJ has too many programs with not enough good coaches and players at the youth level. Hard to compete with LI at 12 years old they build their teams to win now. The current 2025 Jersey teams will be lucky to win 2 games in Denver unless Tribal & Mad Dog become the Tribal Dogs and send one team.


Good points. NJ should also organize and help each other elevate our youth program. Perhaps, create a league similar to HoCo in DMV.

Don't waste your money on the WSYL. The only good thing about the tournament is that it is age based. Everyone knows that Long Island Express is going to take the cake this year. Save the money and put it in your kid's college fund.


To each his own. We don't tell you how to spend your money. With your logic, why would LIE bother going to WSYL if it the outcome is a certainty, what then, for a trophy? that makes them just as foolish.


Exactly, this whole WSYL debate is a never ending exercise in boredom... make you own decisions, don't worry about what everybody else is doing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/15/19 12:35 AM
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/15/19 03:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.


Now beat 91 and don't come back here until you do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/15/19 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.


Now beat 91 and don't come back here until you do.

I'm impressed. No excuses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/15/19 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.


Now beat 91 and don't come back here until you do.

I'm impressed. No excuses.


You will get the "it's fall ball, we are missing players" excuse eventually
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/16/19 11:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.


Now beat 91 and don't come back here until you do.

I'm impressed. No excuses.


You will get the "it's fall ball, we are missing players" excuse eventually


Wrong. This is not LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/16/19 12:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.


Now beat 91 and don't come back here until you do.

I'm impressed. No excuses.


You will get the "it's fall ball, we are missing players" excuse eventually


Are you looking for a pat in the back or something? WSYL is in the past. Move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/16/19 01:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.


Now beat 91 and don't come back here until you do.

I'm impressed. No excuses.


You will get the "it's fall ball, we are missing players" excuse eventually


Are you looking for a pat in the back or something? WSYL is in the past. Move on.


Congrats to the new Igloo players on Taz for a job well done. You make all the difference. Don't let Taz' antics (as evident in their posts here) change you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/16/19 02:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today the semi final game that BBL wanted at the WSYL happened. BBL 2024 Black played TAZ and lost.


Now beat 91 and don't come back here until you do.

I'm impressed. No excuses.


You will get the "it's fall ball, we are missing players" excuse eventually


Are you looking for a pat in the back or something? WSYL is in the past. Move on.


Congrats to the new Igloo players on Taz for a job well done. You make all the difference. Don't let Taz' antics (as evident in their posts here) change you.
Don't Fall for the antics.. Always someone stirring the pot on here. Was a great game. Looking forward to the Competition in the Future. TAZ DAD
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/22/19 12:02 PM
Any truth to Blue Star putting together a WSYL team looking to pull in kids from PA & NJ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/22/19 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth to Blue Star putting together a WSYL team looking to pull in kids from PA & NJ?


Yes, they have already advertised it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/25/19 12:49 PM
Honest question here...can anybody tell me why people get so excited for WSYL?

Am I wrong to say its just another tournament, albeit you have to qualify for it and travel very very far for it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/25/19 01:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honest question here...can anybody tell me why people get so excited for WSYL?

Am I wrong to say its just another tournament, albeit you have to qualify for it and travel very very far for it?



Basically, but it is a nice change from the typical regional tournaments, and it is a fun experience (but not a cheap one). If you can turn it into a family summer vacation after the tournament, it is a great jumping off point for some excellent vacation spots.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/25/19 01:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honest question here...can anybody tell me why people get so excited for WSYL?

Am I wrong to say its just another tournament, albeit you have to qualify for it and travel very very far for it?



I think people see it on TV and think it's a big deal. It can be fun, I'm sure, but not worth the money and I'd rather have my 4th of July week off. It's not really a competitive tournament. Top 3-4 teams are strong, the rest not so much. To each their own however.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/25/19 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honest question here...can anybody tell me why people get so excited for WSYL?

Am I wrong to say its just another tournament, albeit you have to qualify for it and travel very very far for it?



I think people see it on TV and think it's a big deal. It can be fun, I'm sure, but not worth the money and I'd rather have my 4th of July week off. It's not really a competitive tournament. Top 3-4 teams are strong, the rest not so much. To each their own however.


Our team went this summer. You're thinking is spot on. It just happened that it was a fun experience for the boys and families. We can only speak for ourselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 10/25/19 05:06 PM
I agree went also, was a great experience. My son loved made it a vacation
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/07/19 09:58 PM
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/08/19 08:52 AM
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/14/19 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/14/19 03:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/14/19 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/14/19 08:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


I have no direct knowledge of that (but I don't doubt it), but if you are talking about top to bottom consistency, they are probably the better club. LE merely assembles a team in high school, BBL seems to have a greater number of kids that come up through their program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/14/19 08:58 PM
no peer to bbl
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/14/19 09:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


This is complete BS. All you have to do is look at their WSYL lineup where they ended up being ranked #2 this year by Inside Lacrosse. That is an age based tournament. Detractors come with success.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 12:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.


The reason Leading Edge is able to attract top HS players is bec it is one of the founding members for NLF. They have veto power to prevent other Jersey clubs from joining or even participating in NLF events (they act as a monopoly). Their youth teams routinely get smoked in NLF tournaments even in B brackets. But their HS teams do well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.


Yes, I agree. I was only referring to HS level play. Youth is for development and really shouldn't be ranked.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


This is complete BS. All you have to do is look at their WSYL lineup where they ended up being ranked #2 this year by Inside Lacrosse. That is an age based tournament. Detractors come with success.


Does anyone care about the ranking of a youth team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


This is complete BS. All you have to do is look at their WSYL lineup where they ended up being ranked #2 this year by Inside Lacrosse. That is an age based tournament. Detractors come with success.


Does anyone care about the ranking of a youth team?


Yes. you do. BadPerson.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 02:18 PM
bbl is the only jersey team ranked at uc clublax dotcom in youth, there is no debate they are best of jersey
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 02:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


I have no direct knowledge of that (but I don't doubt it), but if you are talking about top to bottom consistency, they are probably the better club. LE merely assembles a team in high school, BBL seems to have a greater number of kids that come up through their program.

Agreed. I would say that there are a lot of other options if your son is a stud. I am not going to name any teams and I wouldn't pay attention to US Club Lax which is heavily flawed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


This is complete BS. All you have to do is look at their WSYL lineup where they ended up being ranked #2 this year by Inside Lacrosse. That is an age based tournament. Detractors come with success.

That rank was bogus. Taz made that clear beating them this Fall with an on age team. Can't say that much for BBL. They also lost to Madlax and another team this fall. BBL 2024 Black Parent. It would be awesome if you could provide all the tournaments that you have played this fall - and no excuses please. Just want to get the correct info out to the world.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


I have no direct knowledge of that (but I don't doubt it), but if you are talking about top to bottom consistency, they are probably the better club. LE merely assembles a team in high school, BBL seems to have a greater number of kids that come up through their program.

Agreed. I would say that there are a lot of other options if your son is a stud. I am not going to name any teams and I wouldn't pay attention to US Club Lax which is heavily flawed.


From what I have heard, the entity that operates US Club Lax is somehow affiliated with Dynamic Sport Management (Team 91, Leading Edge and a few others). In some cases the rankings are pretty spot on (usually top 2 or 3), but there are many instances where the rankings seem pretty biased, although some of that can be attributed to the fact that they consider strength of schedule. But I definitely agree, I wouldn't rely on those rankings for purposes of placing my kid in any particular program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 05:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are up there - definitely in the Top 5 IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whee does Patriot fall in the mix for these clubs?


Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.


I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom.

BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.


This is complete BS. All you have to do is look at their WSYL lineup where they ended up being ranked #2 this year by Inside Lacrosse. That is an age based tournament. Detractors come with success.

That rank was bogus. Taz made that clear beating them this Fall with an on age team. Can't say that much for BBL. They also lost to Madlax and another team this fall. BBL 2024 Black Parent. It would be awesome if you could provide all the tournaments that you have played this fall - and no excuses please. Just want to get the correct info out to the world.


You're barking up the wrong tree and I feel sorry for you that you can't let go of the past. Contact Inside Lacrosse and petition them to revise history to finally put you out of your misery. Inside lacrosse is what the lacrosse world see. Your posts here won't change any of that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 06:55 PM


From what I have heard, the entity that operates US Club Lax is somehow affiliated with Dynamic Sport Management (Team 91, Leading Edge and a few others). In some cases the rankings are pretty spot on (usually top 2 or 3), but there are many instances where the rankings seem pretty biased, although some of that can be attributed to the fact that they consider strength of schedule. But I definitely agree, I wouldn't rely on those rankings for purposes of placing my kid in any particular program. [/quote]

incorrect, independent group, sorry
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 08:14 PM
Leading Edge and BBL are in the top tier.

Patriot can have some good teams but they are not as consistent as the two above. I'd put them in the second band along with Riot, TriState, SouthShore, BlueStar, etc. These clubs are still strong and some grad years are at the top, just not always.[/quote]

I disagree about Leading Edge with respect to consistency They have terrific high school teams, thanks to reclasses, however, their youth teams have never been competitive. They do not develop talent, they acquire it from the other NJ programs in 9th grade. I am not a BBL parent, but in NJ, they probably have the strongest program top to bottom. [/quote]
BBL is heavily packed with hold-backs and re-classed kids as well on both the boys and girls teams. This is no secret.[/quote]

This is complete BS. All you have to do is look at their WSYL lineup where they ended up being ranked #2 this year by Inside Lacrosse. That is an age based tournament. Detractors come with success.
[/quote]
That rank was bogus. Taz made that clear beating them this Fall with an on age team. Can't say that much for BBL. They also lost to Madlax and another team this fall. BBL 2024 Black Parent. It would be awesome if you could provide all the tournaments that you have played this fall - and no excuses please. Just want to get the correct info out to the world. [/quote]

You're barking up the wrong tree and I feel sorry for you that you can't let go of the past. Contact Inside Lacrosse and petition them to revise history to finally put you out of your misery. Inside lacrosse is what the lacrosse world see. Your posts here won't change any of that.
[/quote]

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


From what I have heard, the entity that operates US Club Lax is somehow affiliated with Dynamic Sport Management (Team 91, Leading Edge and a few others). In some cases the rankings are pretty spot on (usually top 2 or 3), but there are many instances where the rankings seem pretty biased, although some of that can be attributed to the fact that they consider strength of schedule. But I definitely agree, I wouldn't rely on those rankings for purposes of placing my kid in any particular program.


incorrect, independent group, sorry [/quote]

Just curious, how do you know that it is an independent group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


From what I have heard, the entity that operates US Club Lax is somehow affiliated with Dynamic Sport Management (Team 91, Leading Edge and a few others). In some cases the rankings are pretty spot on (usually top 2 or 3), but there are many instances where the rankings seem pretty biased, although some of that can be attributed to the fact that they consider strength of schedule. But I definitely agree, I wouldn't rely on those rankings for purposes of placing my kid in any particular program.


incorrect, independent group, sorry [/quote]

There have been discussions on this forum that there is a connection to the 91 program in NJ
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/15/19 09:25 PM
While I would agree that the rankings are missing a few and over rating a few clubs it is a nice idea. I do see clubs ranked lower when they have wins over teams with rankings much higher. Also they are partnering with clubs like Madlax for the National event in FL. Nothing wrong with getting some $$ but it could influence a ranking or two here or there. I hope they keep the rankings going as it is a lot of work for little in return. I thank them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/16/19 01:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)

Ancient history. Current 2024 rankings wouldn't even put you in the top 5. Even with holdbacks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/16/19 02:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)

Ancient history. Current 2024 rankings wouldn't even put you in the top 5. Even with holdbacks.


Here’s before you go to bed. Make sure you dream about BBL.

us club lax rankings Fall 2019 (yeah current history)
1 Madlax
2 91 Wolfpack
3 Looneys
4 BBL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/16/19 03:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I would agree that the rankings are missing a few and over rating a few clubs it is a nice idea. I do see clubs ranked lower when they have wins over teams with rankings much higher. Also they are partnering with clubs like Madlax for the National event in FL. Nothing wrong with getting some $$ but it could influence a ranking or two here or there. I hope they keep the rankings going as it is a lot of work for little in return. I thank them.


In the land of the blind the 1 eye man is king Thank goodness for us club lax dot come
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/16/19 04:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)


Please tell me this is not an adult.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/16/19 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)


Please tell me this is not an adult.


I met up with a buddy from LI last night. He told me the poster trolling here is one of the oldest players from Legacy. I should have known by the way he crafted his sentences. I honestly didn't know I was mixing it up with a teenager. My bad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/19 08:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)


Please tell me this is not an adult.


I met up with a buddy from LI last night. He told me the poster trolling here is one of the oldest players from Legacy. I should have known by the way he crafted his sentences. I honestly didn't know I was mixing it up with a teenager. My bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)


Please tell me this is not an adult.


I met up with a buddy from LI last night. He told me the poster trolling here is one of the oldest players from Legacy. I should have known by the way he crafted his sentences. I honestly didn't know I was mixing it up with a teenager. My bad.

I seriously doubt that any Taz player would waste his time on the New Jersey board. They have already proven that they can beat BBL 2024 Black many times including this fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/19 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)


Please tell me this is not an adult.


I met up with a buddy from LI last night. He told me the poster trolling here is one of the oldest players from Legacy. I should have known by the way he crafted his sentences. I honestly didn't know I was mixing it up with a teenager. My bad.


BBL Fans on this page love to talk about rankings. So here it is. The newest USCL ranking for BBL 2024 Black is #16.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/18/19 09:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)


Please tell me this is not an adult.


I met up with a buddy from LI last night. He told me the poster trolling here is one of the oldest players from Legacy. I should have known by the way he crafted his sentences. I honestly didn't know I was mixing it up with a teenager. My bad.


BBL Fans on this page love to talk about rankings. So here it is. The newest USCL ranking for BBL 2024 Black is #16.


The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this a BBL parent who actually thinks being ranked by Inside Lacrosse in 7th or 8th grade matters? BBL is known for peaking in middle school. I would be shocked if they are at the top come 10th & 11th grade.


BBL is in your head. You can't get it out. Let's keep it that way. Keep thinking about BBL. This is awesome! Here's the ranking again so it's burned in your head. I can't wait for this to contribute to your mental illness.

Nissan WSYL/IL 13U World Rankings
1. Team 91 Wolfpack (N.Y.)
2. BBL Elite (N.J.)


Please tell me this is not an adult.


I met up with a buddy from LI last night. He told me the poster trolling here is one of the oldest players from Legacy. I should have known by the way he crafted his sentences. I honestly didn't know I was mixing it up with a teenager. My bad.


BBL Fans on this page love to talk about rankings. So here it is. The newest USCL ranking for BBL 2024 Black is #16.


The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!

You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


Anything else interesting going on in NJ lacrosse other than the BBL 2024 team, this is getting boring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


It's pathetic how a club from LI is trolling an NJ club. I know Legacy wants to be considered a legitimate club in LI. Fact of the matter is you'll never be on the same league as 91, LI Express and Igloo. I repeat.. never. Those clubs will be around long after you fold. You can keep adding more hold backs for the summer. Legacy is the worst.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.

Here. Here. And the part about Taz having holdbacks is laughable. If you want to talk about holdback - BBL is packed with them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.


Message to the parents of the new Legacy goalie that replaced this poor kid. Your boy will eventually suffer the same fate not because he's not a good player, but because he looks "different" from the rest of the team. This Legacy team is notorious for being (fill in the blank). Keep a close eye on him.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.
That is not even funny how someone is allowed to just flat out lie, and spread rumors. You parents are trashy and this garbage should be ]\shut down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.
That is not even funny how someone is allowed to just flat out lie, and spread rumors. You parents are trashy and this garbage should be ]\shut down.



Unfortunately, this is not a rumor and I wish it was. Why is this so surprising?? This story is well known in LI. It also happened on social media so it cannot be denied. It needs to be told as a cautionary tale for every single player on every club no matter how successful they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.
That is not even funny how someone is allowed to just flat out lie, and spread rumors. You parents are trashy and this garbage should be ]\shut down.



Unfortunately, this is not a rumor and I wish it was. Why is this so surprising?? This story is well known in LI. It also happened on social media so it cannot be denied. It needs to be told as a cautionary tale for every single player on every club no matter how successful they are.
Not true. There was no goalie that Taz lost, they have 3 . should not even be a disscussion. There was some one on BOTC bullying the Goalie. from another team not to long ago, Which was probably you . . NOT Taz so00 Enough. You are suppose to be the kids friend, we know who you are . Stop spreadeing lies . If you want to talk with me about it please feel free. You can talk to the parents. they will tell you the truth
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.
That is not even funny how someone is allowed to just flat out lie, and spread rumors. You parents are trashy and this garbage should be ]\shut down.



Unfortunately, this is not a rumor and I wish it was. Why is this so surprising?? This story is well known in LI. It also happened on social media so it cannot be denied. It needs to be told as a cautionary tale for every single player on every club no matter how successful they are.
Not true. There was no goalie that Taz lost, they have 3 . should not even be a disscussion. There was some one on BOTC bullying the Goalie. from another team not to long ago, Which was probably you . . NOT Taz so00 Enough. You are suppose to be the kids friend, we know who you are . Stop spreadeing lies . If you want to talk with me about it please feel free. You can talk to the parents. they will tell you the truth


You know you hit a nerve when someone finally resort to confront you on the sidelines. Tough guys from LI threatening people. Pahleez.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.
That is not even funny how someone is allowed to just flat out lie, and spread rumors. You parents are trashy and this garbage should be ]\shut down.



Unfortunately, this is not a rumor and I wish it was. Why is this so surprising?? This story is well known in LI. It also happened on social media so it cannot be denied. It needs to be told as a cautionary tale for every single player on every club no matter how successful they are.
Not true. There was no goalie that Taz lost, they have 3 . should not even be a disscussion. There was some one on BOTC bullying the Goalie. from another team not to long ago, Which was probably you . . NOT Taz so00 Enough. You are suppose to be the kids friend, we know who you are . Stop spreadeing lies . If you want to talk with me about it please feel free. You can talk to the parents. they will tell you the truth


you are ALL ACTING LIKE CHILDREN!!! don't you have better things to do
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 07:14 PM
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 07:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.
Agree with you totally. Speaking about other children , and singling them out is wrong. Just not right to even go there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/19/19 08:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.

Finally an adult. Thank you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy that runs USCL is a NJ guy trying to drive people away from BBL and other NJ clubs. Same reason Mad Dog '25 team is 19 after beating 9th and 6th ranked teams. Do your research!


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.


Message to the parents of the new Legacy goalie that replaced this poor kid. Your boy will eventually suffer the same fate not because he's not a good player, but because he looks "different" from the rest of the team. This Legacy team is notorious for being (fill in the blank). Keep a close eye on him.


Are you kidding - you are giving advise in this !@#$%^& place? Laughable and please get a life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 01:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


You are missing the point of my post. The BBL people love to gloat when they are ranked high in these polls but claim that they are rigged when that ranking goes down. Total hypocrites. As far as I am concerned these poles are completely bogus. This is a sorry trend of capitalizing on youth lacrosse. The next company to look out for is Lacrosse Magazine. Not to be confused with US Lacrosse Magazine. Bottom line, please don't give these companies any credibility by posting their rankings online.



And yet you post here about the rankings because your team moved up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Notice how Legacy is now pounding their chests after their World Series humiliation on TV now that they picked up a whole bunch of holdbacks and finally won a couple of fall games. The fact is last year before Legacy went whole hog with holdbacks would have been crushed by BBL in Denver. But they demanded that the brackets be changed last minute. BBL tried to play Legacy in the last tournament of the season with the WS teams but they couldn't even make it to the championship game losing to Laxachusetts and complaining to the tournament directors afterwards about biased officiating.

In Long Island, Legacy is a third rate club that's always outside looking in. So they have to go to other regions to spew their garbage. Legacy is cancer to the sport. Legacy's holdbacks will seek greener pastures and Legacy will be back to the bottom.
That is the funniest thing i ever heard. They have no hold backs. all those kids played in WSYL. check the roster instead of making excuses of why you lost to them. legacy beat you Last fall before WSYL. Its ok to lose , i know it burns deep in your bones. You are embarrassing yourself . You are the ones that come on BOTC saying how you would beat eveyone, that you should have been in the finals. of WSYL. You have not beat one good team. You are making a bad name for your kids. You have a good lacrosse team. No need to put down others, to try and make yourself feel better.


This is coming from the same Legacy team that bullied their own goalie into leaving. Constantly berated and made fun of his weight issue. He's a good goalie. Classy organization.


Message to the parents of the new Legacy goalie that replaced this poor kid. Your boy will eventually suffer the same fate not because he's not a good player, but because he looks "different" from the rest of the team. This Legacy team is notorious for being (fill in the blank). Keep a close eye on him.


Are you kidding - you are giving advise in this !@#$%^& place? Laughable and please get a life.


PLEASE STOP. We had enough of this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.



There are usually 2 sometimes 3 NJ teams in the top 25 of USCLUBLAXdotCom, So Jersey is representing pretty well, Jersey strong. BBL is always in the top 25 at each age group and usually top 10.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.



There are usually 2 sometimes 3 NJ teams in the top 25 of USCLUBLAXdotCom, So Jersey is representing pretty well, Jersey strong. BBL is always in the top 25 at each age group and usually top 10.


NJ lacrosse is somewhat fragmented and therefore talent is spread thin. Nothing wrong with that but it would be nice to have a version of a NJ combined team similar to True or Dukes where top players can play together outside of their respective clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.



There are usually 2 sometimes 3 NJ teams in the top 25 of USCLUBLAXdotCom, So Jersey is representing pretty well, Jersey strong. BBL is always in the top 25 at each age group and usually top 10.


NJ lacrosse is somewhat fragmented and therefore talent is spread thin. Nothing wrong with that but it would be nice to have a version of a NJ combined team similar to True or Dukes where top players can play together outside of their respective clubs.


The national team model makes no sense from a development perspective. They have few, if any practices, and just meet up for 1 or 2 tournaments a year. If you are on a top team in your age group in NJ, you are probably playing the same tournaments anyway, and getting quality practices with your team. That being said, if you are interested in a national team, there is always Mad Dog locally, or you can drive to PA or MD. If there was a real benefit to the national teams, you would see a lot more kids from LI playing on those teams. As you said, the real problem is that the NJ talent is spread too thin, but recently it seems like a few NJ clubs are doing a very good job aggregating talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.



There are usually 2 sometimes 3 NJ teams in the top 25 of USCLUBLAXdotCom, So Jersey is representing pretty well, Jersey strong. BBL is always in the top 25 at each age group and usually top 10.


NJ lacrosse is somewhat fragmented and therefore talent is spread thin. Nothing wrong with that but it would be nice to have a version of a NJ combined team similar to True or Dukes where top players can play together outside of their respective clubs.


The national team model makes no sense from a development perspective. They have few, if any practices, and just meet up for 1 or 2 tournaments a year. If you are on a top team in your age group in NJ, you are probably playing the same tournaments anyway, and getting quality practices with your team. That being said, if you are interested in a national team, there is always Mad Dog locally, or you can drive to PA or MD. If there was a real benefit to the national teams, you would see a lot more kids from LI playing on those teams. As you said, the real problem is that the NJ talent is spread too thin, but recently it seems like a few NJ clubs are doing a very good job aggregating talent.


I agree regarding development. Joining a national team as a supplement usually means the player is already being developed by his or her club team. That player may be one of the best players in that team. Typical situation is that the team as a whole may not be considered AA (whatever that means) and enters tournaments in the correct bracket but he or she desires to compete in a AA bracket with a national team notwithstanding scheduling conflicts. What tournaments this summer have Mad Dog National team played in. Curious about what teams they play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.



There are usually 2 sometimes 3 NJ teams in the top 25 of USCLUBLAXdotCom, So Jersey is representing pretty well, Jersey strong. BBL is always in the top 25 at each age group and usually top 10.


NJ lacrosse is somewhat fragmented and therefore talent is spread thin. Nothing wrong with that but it would be nice to have a version of a NJ combined team similar to True or Dukes where top players can play together outside of their respective clubs.


The national team model makes no sense from a development perspective. They have few, if any practices, and just meet up for 1 or 2 tournaments a year. If you are on a top team in your age group in NJ, you are probably playing the same tournaments anyway, and getting quality practices with your team. That being said, if you are interested in a national team, there is always Mad Dog locally, or you can drive to PA or MD. If there was a real benefit to the national teams, you would see a lot more kids from LI playing on those teams. As you said, the real problem is that the NJ talent is spread too thin, but recently it seems like a few NJ clubs are doing a very good job aggregating talent.


I agree regarding development. Joining a national team as a supplement usually means the player is already being developed by his or her club team. That player may be one of the best players in that team. Typical situation is that the team as a whole may not be considered AA (whatever that means) and enters tournaments in the correct bracket but he or she desires to compete in a AA bracket with a national team notwithstanding scheduling conflicts. What tournaments this summer have Mad Dog National team played in. Curious about what teams they play.

They play in Naptown and the new event in NJ July 11th & 12th. Mad Dog West 2024 and Mad Dog Black 2025 play in Naptown without national players. Moving to Mad Dog NJ for the national team is a mistake. NJ could be dead in a year and only National Team that is legit is the 2021 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/20/19 07:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash there are other very good clubs in New Jersey. This is not bbl message board. I dont mind a good argument every once and a while but this one needs to stop. Keep the subject about lax or go somewhere else.



There are usually 2 sometimes 3 NJ teams in the top 25 of USCLUBLAXdotCom, So Jersey is representing pretty well, Jersey strong. BBL is always in the top 25 at each age group and usually top 10.


NJ lacrosse is somewhat fragmented and therefore talent is spread thin. Nothing wrong with that but it would be nice to have a version of a NJ combined team similar to True or Dukes where top players can play together outside of their respective clubs.


The national team model makes no sense from a development perspective. They have few, if any practices, and just meet up for 1 or 2 tournaments a year. If you are on a top team in your age group in NJ, you are probably playing the same tournaments anyway, and getting quality practices with your team. That being said, if you are interested in a national team, there is always Mad Dog locally, or you can drive to PA or MD. If there was a real benefit to the national teams, you would see a lot more kids from LI playing on those teams. As you said, the real problem is that the NJ talent is spread too thin, but recently it seems like a few NJ clubs are doing a very good job aggregating talent.


I agree regarding development. Joining a national team as a supplement usually means the player is already being developed by his or her club team. That player may be one of the best players in that team. Typical situation is that the team as a whole may not be considered AA (whatever that means) and enters tournaments in the correct bracket but he or she desires to compete in a AA bracket with a national team notwithstanding scheduling conflicts. What tournaments this summer have Mad Dog National team played in. Curious about what teams they play.


They played Naptown and the national team event in NJ the following weekend this summer. Obviously, at Naptown, you will get most of the big clubs, the NJ event was small format, but had some quality teams like True Atlantic and Dukes. I can certainly appreciate your perspective, but tournaments like Crabfeast and Naptown also have NJ club teams, and along with the NLF events, probably offer the highest level of youth lacrosse competition. Unlike Crabfeast, Naptown seems to attract many more national level teams. While you obviously know what's best for your own child, if you feel that their regular club is not offering the appropriate level of competition, perhaps a change of clubs would help. While this is not a bad thing, many NJ clubs focus mostly on development and stick to the B or lower level A tournaments, if your kid is an A or AA player, they may be better served on a NJ club that plays only A and AA tournaments. Also, keep in mind, that although your child may seem like an AA player in the lower level tournaments, things are much different at the AA level, a lot of these teams are filled with big, fast and incredibly talented players which can be a big adjustment. Also, while some would disagree, despite the fact that these national teams hold tryouts, they typically target kids that they already know, not to mention the mysterious "guest" players that appear out of nowhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/25/19 04:29 PM
No kid on either team, but I watched the BBL 2022 team absolutely crush the Mad Dog national team at Downingtown yesterday.
It begs the question whether the Mad Dog NJ or Cal team would have done just as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/25/19 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on either team, but I watched the BBL 2022 team absolutely crush the Mad Dog national team at Downingtown yesterday.
It begs the question whether the Mad Dog NJ or Cal team would have done just as well.


Do they even still have a NJ team? Didn't Mad Dog NJ fall apart after the Squan coach left? Only National teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/25/19 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on either team, but I watched the BBL 2022 team absolutely crush the Mad Dog national team at Downingtown yesterday.
It begs the question whether the Mad Dog NJ or Cal team would have done just as well.


Do they even still have a NJ team? Didn't Mad Dog NJ fall apart after the Squan coach left? Only National teams?


best teams are the top ranked national teams on sites like us club lacrosse. no need to join a national team unless you just want to blow money.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/25/19 07:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on either team, but I watched the BBL 2022 team absolutely crush the Mad Dog national team at Downingtown yesterday.
It begs the question whether the Mad Dog NJ or Cal team would have done just as well.


What was the score?

Looks like 2021 MD national did ok.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/25/19 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on either team, but I watched the BBL 2022 team absolutely crush the Mad Dog national team at Downingtown yesterday.
It begs the question whether the Mad Dog NJ or Cal team would have done just as well.


What was the score?

Looks like 2021 MD national did ok.


2021 is their best national team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/26/19 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on either team, but I watched the BBL 2022 team absolutely crush the Mad Dog national team at Downingtown yesterday.
It begs the question whether the Mad Dog NJ or Cal team would have done just as well.


What was the score?

Looks like 2021 MD national did ok.

It looked like 10 or 11 to 3 when I was watching.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 11/27/19 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on either team, but I watched the BBL 2022 team absolutely crush the Mad Dog national team at Downingtown yesterday.
It begs the question whether the Mad Dog NJ or Cal team would have done just as well.


What was the score?

Looks like 2021 MD national did ok.

It looked like 10 or 11 to 3 when I was watching.


Mad Dog National was a 23/22 team and their best 2022 played on the 2021 National team. Squan kid, he is very solid. Not sure how long he stays with MD. His brother played for Leading Edge.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/02/20 12:50 PM
Anyone know anything about the New Jersey National team playing this weekend in FL? Is that a Mad Dog team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/02/20 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the New Jersey National team playing this weekend in FL? Is that a Mad Dog team?


I heard that it was somehow related to NJLC, either way, most of the NJ talent is home and back in school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/02/20 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the New Jersey National team playing this weekend in FL? Is that a Mad Dog team?


I heard that it was somehow related to NJLC, either way, most of the NJ talent is home and back in school.


Who is Upper Level Club in NJ? Are they part of NJLC?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 01/03/20 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about the New Jersey National team playing this weekend in FL? Is that a Mad Dog team?


I heard that it was somehow related to NJLC, either way, most of the NJ talent is home and back in school.


Who is Upper Level Club in NJ? Are they part of NJLC?


They have been around a while, seem to play mostly local NJ and PA tournaments, never heard anything good or bad about the club
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/05/20 12:37 PM
How many of the NJ teams qualify? All 5 & Team 91 MD?

Tri-State 2025
BBL Elite
Tribal SJ 2025
Mad Dog East
TEAM Lacrosse 2025
Team 91 Maryland 2025
2025 Cannons Gold
True Lacrosse Maryland 2025
3d Garden State 2025AA
Breakers 2025 Blue
Zingos 2025 Black
Top Caliber Lacrosse 2025
3d Maryland 2025
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/09/20 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many of the NJ teams qualify? All 5 & Team 91 MD?

Tri-State 2025
BBL Elite
Tribal SJ 2025
Mad Dog East
TEAM Lacrosse 2025
Team 91 Maryland 2025
2025 Cannons Gold
True Lacrosse Maryland 2025
3d Garden State 2025AA
Breakers 2025 Blue
Zingos 2025 Black
Top Caliber Lacrosse 2025
3d Maryland 2025



BBL
Tribal
Mad Dog
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/11/20 05:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many of the NJ teams qualify? All 5 & Team 91 MD?

Tri-State 2025
BBL Elite
Tribal SJ 2025
Mad Dog East
TEAM Lacrosse 2025
Team 91 Maryland 2025
2025 Cannons Gold
True Lacrosse Maryland 2025
3d Garden State 2025AA
Breakers 2025 Blue
Zingos 2025 Black
Top Caliber Lacrosse 2025
3d Maryland 2025



BBL
Tribal
Mad Dog


BBL
Tri-State
3d Garden State
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/11/20 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many of the NJ teams qualify? All 5 & Team 91 MD?

Tri-State 2025
BBL Elite
Tribal SJ 2025
Mad Dog East
TEAM Lacrosse 2025
Team 91 Maryland 2025
2025 Cannons Gold
True Lacrosse Maryland 2025
3d Garden State 2025AA
Breakers 2025 Blue
Zingos 2025 Black
Top Caliber Lacrosse 2025
3d Maryland 2025



BBL
Tribal
Mad Dog


BBL
Tri-State
3d Garden State


You must not know much about Mad Dog and Tribal 2025 teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/16/20 02:49 PM
true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/16/20 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?


That is irrelevant, the question was about NJ teams qualifying for the WSYL. BBL, Tribal and Mad Dog teams are all very strong and, if you put any weight behind US Club Lax rankings, are ranked 12, 16 and 17 nationally.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/16/20 08:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?


That is irrelevant, the question was about NJ teams qualifying for the WSYL. BBL, Tribal and Mad Dog teams are all very strong and, if you put any weight behind US Club Lax rankings, are ranked 12, 16 and 17 nationally.


Any word from WSYL on the qualifier? They going to push it back or is the WSYL done for this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/17/20 01:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?


That is irrelevant, the question was about NJ teams qualifying for the WSYL. BBL, Tribal and Mad Dog teams are all very strong and, if you put any weight behind US Club Lax rankings, are ranked 12, 16 and 17 nationally.


Mad Dog's best player is a summer birthday and can't play.. going to be a big problem for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/18/20 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?


That is irrelevant, the question was about NJ teams qualifying for the WSYL. BBL, Tribal and Mad Dog teams are all very strong and, if you put any weight behind US Club Lax rankings, are ranked 12, 16 and 17 nationally.


Mad Dog's best player is a summer birthday and can't play.. going to be a big problem for them.


Well, the discussion is probably irrelevant at this point, but I believe that BBL had the same "big problem" last year, and things worked out OK. Hopefully, things will calm down a bit and our kids can get in some lacrosse this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/18/20 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?


That is irrelevant, the question was about NJ teams qualifying for the WSYL. BBL, Tribal and Mad Dog teams are all very strong and, if you put any weight behind US Club Lax rankings, are ranked 12, 16 and 17 nationally.


Mad Dog's best player is a summer birthday and can't play.. going to be a big problem for them.


Well, the discussion is probably irrelevant at this point, but I believe that BBL had the same "big problem" last year, and things worked out OK. Hopefully, things will calm down a bit and our kids can get in some lacrosse this summer.

Mad Dog wouldn't play that game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/18/20 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?


That is irrelevant, the question was about NJ teams qualifying for the WSYL. BBL, Tribal and Mad Dog teams are all very strong and, if you put any weight behind US Club Lax rankings, are ranked 12, 16 and 17 nationally.


Mad Dog's best player is a summer birthday and can't play.. going to be a big problem for them.


Well, the discussion is probably irrelevant at this point, but I believe that BBL had the same "big problem" last year, and things worked out OK. Hopefully, things will calm down a bit and our kids can get in some lacrosse this summer.

Mad Dog wouldn't play that game.


I agree, but there will always be doubters. My son does not play for Mad Dog, but I have had some experience with the 2025 coach and he seems like a really good guy. I do know a few parents of 2025 players and I know that they would certainly agree that he is an excellent coach and would not do anything underhanded.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/18/20 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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true statement...I don't know much about tribal. Do they have any high school level teams? Is their program plugged into college coaches?


That is irrelevant, the question was about NJ teams qualifying for the WSYL. BBL, Tribal and Mad Dog teams are all very strong and, if you put any weight behind US Club Lax rankings, are ranked 12, 16 and 17 nationally.


Mad Dog's best player is a summer birthday and can't play.. going to be a big problem for them.


Well, the discussion is probably irrelevant at this point, but I believe that BBL had the same "big problem" last year, and things worked out OK. Hopefully, things will calm down a bit and our kids can get in some lacrosse this summer.

Mad Dog wouldn't play that game.


I agree, but there will always be doubters. My son does not play for Mad Dog, but I have had some experience with the 2025 coach and he seems like a really good guy. I do know a few parents of 2025 players and I know that they would certainly agree that he is an excellent coach and would not do anything underhanded.

Too bad he has blown up the Mad Dog NJ program. All he cares about is the 2025 Black team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/19/20 02:25 PM

Too bad he has blown up the Mad Dog NJ program. All he cares about is the 2025 Black team.[/quote]

I think that he was left with a program in decline and perhaps sees that the only way to re-build is to start with the younger age groups. Other than the 2021 team, the high school program is shot for now, but if he can develop these younger teams, maybe there is a future for the NJ program. He needs to have a track record, and success at the younger age groups will bring in more kids. A lot of the blame can be placed on the 2023 parents that bailed right before the season, that really hurt the high school program,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/19/20 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too bad he has blown up the Mad Dog NJ program. All he cares about is the 2025 Black team.


I think that he was left with a program in decline and perhaps sees that the only way to re-build is to start with the younger age groups. Other than the 2021 team, the high school program is shot for now, but if he can develop these younger teams, maybe there is a future for the NJ program. He needs to have a track record, and success at the younger age groups will bring in more kids. A lot of the blame can be placed on the 2023 parents that bailed right before the season, that really hurt the high school program,[/quote]

You sound like the director trying to place blame on parents.
Don't know anything about the 2023s. I had a son on the 2027 team and it was a s*** show so we moved on. Revolving door with coaches. Too bad Billy isn't still around he could get all the kids back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 03/19/20 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too bad he has blown up the Mad Dog NJ program. All he cares about is the 2025 Black team.


I think that he was left with a program in decline and perhaps sees that the only way to re-build is to start with the younger age groups. Other than the 2021 team, the high school program is shot for now, but if he can develop these younger teams, maybe there is a future for the NJ program. He needs to have a track record, and success at the younger age groups will bring in more kids. A lot of the blame can be placed on the 2023 parents that bailed right before the season, that really hurt the high school program,


You sound like the director trying to place blame on parents.
Don't know anything about the 2023s. I had a son on the 2027 team and it was a s*** show so we moved on. Revolving door with coaches. Too bad Billy isn't still around he could get all the kids back.[/quote]

Honestly, not affiliated with the program in any way, but the 2023 mess last year was a disaster. Clearly, you have a much better perspective on the situation than I do. I hope that you and your son found a better option, nothing more disappointing that spending all of that money for a ton of aggravation. We recently went through a club change as well, fortunately, there are some good alternatives available.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/01/20 04:23 PM
Any NJ clubs starting to get back on the field?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/03/20 03:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs starting to get back on the field?


I think that some will start limited no-contact practices as of 6/22
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/09/20 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs starting to get back on the field?


I think that some will start limited no-contact practices as of 6/22


Mad Dog National running practices for limited Mad Dog players. Tri-State stars in a few weeks and the Jersey Shore beaches are packed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/09/20 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any NJ clubs starting to get back on the field?


I think that some will start limited no-contact practices as of 6/22


Mad Dog National running practices for limited Mad Dog players. Tri-State stars in a few weeks and the Jersey Shore beaches are packed.


Unfortunately, the start of practices will not help the beach crowds, unbelievable...
Posted By: TriStateLaxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/23/20 01:30 PM
Besides Mad Dog, has anyone else started practicing yet?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/23/20 07:35 PM
Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer
Besides Mad Dog, has anyone else started practicing yet?


Considering that it was basically illegal to practice until yesterday, you probably will not get a lot of replies, but I believe that a few clubs are starting up this week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 06/26/20 09:03 PM
Two new directors for Mad Dog NJ! Hopefully, these two can make it 24 months.
Posted By: NJ_Laxer Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/07/20 02:44 PM
Which directors did Mad Dog just get?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/26/20 02:51 PM
Announcement !!!! It’s been a great run with Tribal Lacrosse. For 20-21 season and beyond we have partnered with the Express program. We believe this will be great for lacrosse in South Jersey and help us meet our goal of improved skill development, exposure and NCAA recruiting guidance for our youth and high school players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/26/20 08:51 PM
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/20 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.
Wait did Primetime win the championship?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/20 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Announcement !!!! It’s been a great run with Tribal Lacrosse. For 20-21 season and beyond we have partnered with the Express program. We believe this will be great for lacrosse in South Jersey and help us meet our goal of improved skill development, exposure and NCAA recruiting guidance for our youth and high school players.

Oh boy! New gearbags and uni's for the children. should only cost the current players a couple hundred bucks for the merch upgrade. If Branding and Licensing deals is what you people are hoping will grow lacrosse in your area, i have a bridge I want to sell you!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/20 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.
Wait did Primetime win the championship?

Brotherly Love.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/20 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.
Wait did Primetime win the championship?

Brotherly Love.

Thanks for verifying that Primetime has won jack and decided to crow about 2nd place. ok got it. Participation trophies next.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/20 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.


BBL just did not play as well as they normally do this past weekend. It happens. With exception of Madlax, they have beaten every team they lost to more than once, including the team that won it. It was also the hardest three game bracket in the entire 2024 age bracket anywhere! When you are not playing at your best its a real tall task against teams like these especially when you are missing two key players. And genuine props to Primetime who beat Madlax with same exact team that went to World Series (no holdbacks). Madlax is fun team to watch if you have not seen them. In fact all these teams are fun to watch and if you not on your game they will make you pay!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/27/20 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.


BBL just did not play as well as they normally do this past weekend. It happens. With exception of Madlax, they have beaten every team they lost to more than once, including the team that won it. It was also the hardest three game bracket in the entire 2024 age bracket anywhere! When you are not playing at your best its a real tall task against teams like these especially when you are missing two key players. And genuine props to Primetime who beat Madlax with same exact team that went to World Series (no holdbacks). Madlax is fun team to watch if you have not seen them. In fact all these teams are fun to watch and if you not on your game they will make you pay!
It will be interesting to see what happens to this team. AH better start handing out some free rides to keep franchise players from defecting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/28/20 11:26 AM
Can you please elaborate on your views of/experience with the Express program? I have a youth player in South Jersey and was going to tryout with Express. Thanks for your input.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/29/20 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can you please elaborate on your views of/experience with the Express program? I have a youth player in South Jersey and was going to tryout with Express. Thanks for your input.
Which Express .. North? LI? DC?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/29/20 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.


BBL just did not play as well as they normally do this past weekend. It happens. With exception of Madlax, they have beaten every team they lost to more than once, including the team that won it. It was also the hardest three game bracket in the entire 2024 age bracket anywhere! When you are not playing at your best its a real tall task against teams like these especially when you are missing two key players. And genuine props to Primetime who beat Madlax with same exact team that went to World Series (no holdbacks). Madlax is fun team to watch if you have not seen them. In fact all these teams are fun to watch and if you not on your game they will make you pay!
It will be interesting to see what happens to this team. AH better start handing out some free rides to keep franchise players from defecting.

Really? Deflecting to where and why? Because they lost some games against some of the top teams in one of the best tournaments? If parents and players leave because of that not sure they are the type you want. You still mad you dont have a spot on the team? Youre def not the type a program wants.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/29/20 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.


BBL just did not play as well as they normally do this past weekend. It happens. With exception of Madlax, they have beaten every team they lost to more than once, including the team that won it. It was also the hardest three game bracket in the entire 2024 age bracket anywhere! When you are not playing at your best its a real tall task against teams like these especially when you are missing two key players. And genuine props to Primetime who beat Madlax with same exact team that went to World Series (no holdbacks). Madlax is fun team to watch if you have not seen them. In fact all these teams are fun to watch and if you not on your game they will make you pay!
It will be interesting to see what happens to this team. AH better start handing out some free rides to keep franchise players from defecting.

Really? Deflecting to where and why? Because they lost some games against some of the top teams in one of the best tournaments? If parents and players leave because of that not sure they are the type you want. You still mad you dont have a spot on the team? Youre def not the type a program wants.

The only reason a kid should leave a program is if the coaching is not what was expected, or your kid is not developing each season, leaving to hunt for wins is a ridiculous waste of time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/30/20 11:21 AM
Jersey Express - the Express brand is taking over the Tribal teams in NJ
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/30/20 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.


BBL just did not play as well as they normally do this past weekend. It happens. With exception of Madlax, they have beaten every team they lost to more than once, including the team that won it. It was also the hardest three game bracket in the entire 2024 age bracket anywhere! When you are not playing at your best its a real tall task against teams like these especially when you are missing two key players. And genuine props to Primetime who beat Madlax with same exact team that went to World Series (no holdbacks). Madlax is fun team to watch if you have not seen them. In fact all these teams are fun to watch and if you not on your game they will make you pay!
It will be interesting to see what happens to this team. AH better start handing out some free rides to keep franchise players from defecting.

Really? Deflecting to where and why? Because they lost some games against some of the top teams in one of the best tournaments? If parents and players leave because of that not sure they are the type you want. You still mad you dont have a spot on the team? Youre def not the type a program wants.

The only reason a kid should leave a program is if the coaching is not what was expected, or your kid is not developing each season, leaving to hunt for wins is a ridiculous waste of time.


Just to clarify BBL lost to they top teams. They played in the hardest bracket. Level of play across the board much different than the other brackets. BL also in tough bracket but not nearly as difficult. Also BBL had much less practices than the teams they played said through direct conversations with parents from other teams. They could lose three in a row again against these teams or could win them. It's how it works. Just didn't have good weekend given many variables that includes playing the toughest competition you will find hence why you will see most of same group with same program next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/30/20 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.


BBL just did not play as well as they normally do this past weekend. It happens. With exception of Madlax, they have beaten every team they lost to more than once, including the team that won it. It was also the hardest three game bracket in the entire 2024 age bracket anywhere! When you are not playing at your best its a real tall task against teams like these especially when you are missing two key players. And genuine props to Primetime who beat Madlax with same exact team that went to World Series (no holdbacks). Madlax is fun team to watch if you have not seen them. In fact all these teams are fun to watch and if you not on your game they will make you pay!
It will be interesting to see what happens to this team. AH better start handing out some free rides to keep franchise players from defecting.

Really? Deflecting to where and why? Because they lost some games against some of the top teams in one of the best tournaments? If parents and players leave because of that not sure they are the type you want. You still mad you dont have a spot on the team? Youre def not the type a program wants.

The only reason a kid should leave a program is if the coaching is not what was expected, or your kid is not developing each season, leaving to hunt for wins is a ridiculous waste of time.


Just to clarify BBL lost to they top teams. They played in the hardest bracket. Level of play across the board much different than the other brackets. BL also in tough bracket but not nearly as difficult. Also BBL had much less practices than the teams they played said through direct conversations with parents from other teams. They could lose three in a row again against these teams or could win them. It's how it works. Just didn't have good weekend given many variables that includes playing the toughest competition you will find hence why you will see most of same group with same program next year.

save your time, some people will never take the time to think about things this rationally, they just want to stir the pot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/31/20 03:08 PM
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/31/20 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 07/31/20 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/20 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.

Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/20 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.

Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.
Your credibility is suspect LE dad. No-one from BBL 24s would join a B level LE team. Proof will be after BBLs tryout is done and core players stay. What's the draw anyway, NLF? please. It's been watered down and lost its appeal and LE is never competitive in it. By the way, BBL wins by 15-18 goals easy with half their players missing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/20 08:23 PM
Seen the 2024 leading edge team play. BBL girls team can probably give them problems. lol. the older teams are very good like that guy is saying. everyone relax and just be glad theres lax played.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/01/20 11:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.

Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.
Your credibility is suspect LE dad. No-one from BBL 24s would join a B level LE team. Proof will be after BBLs tryout is done and core players stay. What's the draw anyway, NLF? please. It's been watered down and lost its appeal and LE is never competitive in it. By the way, BBL wins by 15-18 goals easy with half their players missing.
Don't be so sure. Just takes one of the top two players to leave and they have a big problem. I would be really surprised if this team stays together.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.

Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.
Your credibility is suspect LE dad. No-one from BBL 24s would join a B level LE team. Proof will be after BBLs tryout is done and core players stay. What's the draw anyway, NLF? please. It's been watered down and lost its appeal and LE is never competitive in it. By the way, BBL wins by 15-18 goals easy with half their players missing.

Ha ha. You're obviously a BBL player or dad holding on to the dream and has no idea of the bigger picture. Just wait and see.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.

Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.
Your credibility is suspect LE dad. No-one from BBL 24s would join a B level LE team. Proof will be after BBLs tryout is done and core players stay. What's the draw anyway, NLF? please. It's been watered down and lost its appeal and LE is never competitive in it. By the way, BBL wins by 15-18 goals easy with half their players missing.

Ha ha. You're obviously a BBL player or dad holding on to the dream and has no idea of the bigger picture. Just wait and see.

Really? And you have it figured out have you. you know the secret to life and see the big picture. You're a joke. Good luck with your son making the cut at Leading edge this year. he always have Bloomfield College to look forward to.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 02:18 PM
I know COVID is tough on these clubs' business but Leading Edge marketing dept hocking their wares in this board is a bit dooshy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 03:12 PM
Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.[/quote]
Your credibility is suspect LE dad. No-one from BBL 24s would join a B level LE team. Proof will be after BBLs tryout is done and core players stay. What's the draw anyway, NLF? please. It's been watered down and lost its appeal and LE is never competitive in it. By the way, BBL wins by 15-18 goals easy with half their players missing.[/quote]

Ha ha. You're obviously a BBL player or dad holding on to the dream and has no idea of the bigger picture. Just wait and see.[/quote]

Really? And you have it figured out have you. you know the secret to life and see the big picture. You're a joke. Good luck with your son making the cut at Leading edge this year. he always have Bloomfield College to look forward to.[/quote]

This debate happens every year, and in the past, had some merit, but I think that the LE 2023 team is perfect example that the grass is not always greener. Sure they play a tough schedule, but the mounting losses are clearly affecting the players and parents.Much like other legacy programs in NJ, LE just assumes that the kids will show up on their doorstep, not so much anymore. There are other clubs in NJ doing a great job developing players. My son plays for another NJ club, but there is little question about the respect that the BBL program has in the club lacrosse community.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 03:54 PM
I could be wrong but it's my understanding not one BBL 2024 player tried out for LE for next summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I could be wrong but it's my understanding not one BBL 2024 player tried out for LE for next summer.
I think you just drove that LE dad to depression. He knows reality will hit him soon. He sadly thinks things stay the same forever and choices do no exist. I hope he learns to simply enjoy his son play the game irregardless of the uniform he wears.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I could be wrong but it's my understanding not one BBL 2024 player tried out for LE for next summer.
I think you just drove that LE dad to depression. He knows reality will hit him soon. He sadly thinks things stay the same forever and choices do no exist. I hope he learns to simply enjoy his son play the game irregardless of the uniform he wears.
"Irregardless" is not a word. How about you hit the books in high school before you make yourself look even more notIntelligent. Or is it "stupider"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.

Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.
Your credibility is suspect LE dad. No-one from BBL 24s would join a B level LE team. Proof will be after BBLs tryout is done and core players stay. What's the draw anyway, NLF? please. It's been watered down and lost its appeal and LE is never competitive in it. By the way, BBL wins by 15-18 goals easy with half their players missing.

Same thing said for 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 BBL teams. 2024 will be no different.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no love for bbl, but with all of this COVID going on, I just gotta say that no team is at the top of their game. Just saying, no spring season, and not being allowed to have real practices until July (varying by location) with some teams following the rules and others not. This whole summer season is meaningless.
Not sure if it's ture but heard a number of the top BBL 2024 are trying out for Leading Edge. BBL having a hard time putting kids in collage.
Found the LE director. Nice try. How about setting up a game btw BBL and LE see how that goes.

Leading Edge will catch up to and probably surpass BBL next season. They always add a bunch of players and grab a handful of reclasses. BBL is still a good club but when they get to high school they fall off a bit. The current BBL high school teams used to beat up on LE at the youth level. Now its the other way around. Same thing is likely to happen here. If the 2024s played today though, I'd say BBL wins by 2-3 goals.
Your credibility is suspect LE dad. No-one from BBL 24s would join a B level LE team. Proof will be after BBLs tryout is done and core players stay. What's the draw anyway, NLF? please. It's been watered down and lost its appeal and LE is never competitive in it. By the way, BBL wins by 15-18 goals easy with half their players missing.

Same thing said for 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 BBL teams. 2024 will be no different.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
darn. What happened to BBL 2024 Black yesterday? Got spanked by Madlax and Looneys. Oh yes and get this, Primetime beat Madlax so BBL can't complain about all the Maryland holdbacks. BBL ended the day at the bottom of the bracket, a far cry from being ranked #2 in the country. It will be interesting to see what happens to this team next year.


BBL just did not play as well as they normally do this past weekend. It happens. With exception of Madlax, they have beaten every team they lost to more than once, including the team that won it. It was also the hardest three game bracket in the entire 2024 age bracket anywhere! When you are not playing at your best its a real tall task against teams like these especially when you are missing two key players. And genuine props to Primetime who beat Madlax with same exact team that went to World Series (no holdbacks). Madlax is fun team to watch if you have not seen them. In fact all these teams are fun to watch and if you not on your game they will make you pay!
It will be interesting to see what happens to this team. AH better start handing out some free rides to keep franchise players from defecting.

Really? Deflecting to where and why? Because they lost some games against some of the top teams in one of the best tournaments? If parents and players leave because of that not sure they are the type you want. You still mad you dont have a spot on the team? Youre def not the type a program wants.

You sound awfully scared and concerned.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/02/20 11:04 PM
Tryouts will be interesting at the 2024, 2025 & 2026 levels. A lot of movement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 12:05 AM
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 01:46 PM
Please google irregardless and report back.[/quote]

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.
BBL 2024 Black Parents. Please stay where you are. You are in a great place with amazing people. Feel the love.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.

Nope, no go have mommy carry your bag for you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.

Nope, no go have mommy carry your bag for you.

"no go have" --- now you may want to use your google search prowess to figure out this is non-sense babble. fool. buh-bye. see you next summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.

Nope, no go have mommy carry your bag for you.

"no go have" --- now you may want to use your google search prowess to figure out this is non-sense babble. fool. buh-bye. see you next summer.

I've got no dog in this fight but let look at the data!

D1 Recruits
2020 BBL 10 LE 14 (Level of D1 schools big advantage to LE)
2021 BBL 6 LE 12

Ranks - they are notIntelligent but lets use them for this aurgment.
Teams in Perseason Rankings
BBL - 4
LE - 3
BBL - only 1 High School team... LE zero middel school

This shows that LE needs to do a better job with their yough programs, but does nice rjob in player development and putting kids in collage. BBL on the other hand has a nice pipeline of talent but doesn't look to do much in the area of players development and getting kids in collage.

Bottomline - love all the fighting but don't forget about the boys in South Jersey and the Shore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.

Nope, no go have mommy carry your bag for you.

"no go have" --- now you may want to use your google search prowess to figure out this is non-sense babble. fool. buh-bye. see you next summer.

You: Mommy, can you get me my water and carry my bag? It's too heavy. Wah, wah.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.

Nope, no go have mommy carry your bag for you.

"no go have" --- now you may want to use your google search prowess to figure out this is non-sense babble. fool. buh-bye. see you next summer.

I've got no dog in this fight but let look at the data!

D1 Recruits
2020 BBL 10 LE 14 (Level of D1 schools big advantage to LE)
2021 BBL 6 LE 12

Ranks - they are notIntelligent but lets use them for this aurgment.
Teams in Perseason Rankings
BBL - 4
LE - 3
BBL - only 1 High School team... LE zero middel school

This shows that LE needs to do a better job with their yough programs, but does nice rjob in player development and putting kids in collage. BBL on the other hand has a nice pipeline of talent but doesn't look to do much in the area of players development and getting kids in collage.

Bottomline - love all the fighting but don't forget about the boys in South Jersey and the Shore.

We don't forget about the boys in South Jersey and shore. We recently played Southshore in a play day last week in Wall Twshp. Solid team and the parents were all cool. Come to think of it, all the teams there that day were all cool.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/03/20 07:33 PM
BBL. Just sent out a deceptive email.

"Kylie Ohmiller Camp at BBL HQ This Week"

Yeah - but it's not a BBL camp.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/04/20 12:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBL. Just sent out a deceptive email.

"Kylie Ohmiller Camp at BBL HQ This Week"

Yeah - but it's not a BBL camp.
Is the facility even owned by BBL?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/04/20 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBL. Just sent out a deceptive email.

"Kylie Ohmiller Camp at BBL HQ This Week"

Yeah - but it's not a BBL camp.
Is the facility even owned by BBL?

Nope. They just like to run around and say it is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/04/20 03:16 PM
Does anyone know if the Mad Dog 2024 team is folding? Apparently the kids on the team have been trying out a various teams across the state. I heard a few of their better players are leaning towards Blue Star and some of the other kids are going to Garden State Lacrosse????
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/20 12:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a stunad incorrect grammar [ChillLaxin]

Please google irregardless and report back.

LE dad (just you, not all), Ill say this one last time. The cavalry is not coming. You will wallow in failure next year at NLF and get blown out each outing. Surprise to win a single game. Cause that's what counts right? you have it all figured out. Go ahead and preach your scary knowledge, wisdom and goole search talent about the secret to success in life while you pace up and down the sidelines in your 2 sizes too big cargo shorts. It's a good look for you, a clown.

Nope, no go have mommy carry your bag for you.

"no go have" --- now you may want to use your google search prowess to figure out this is non-sense babble. fool. buh-bye. see you next summer.

You: Mommy, can you get me my water and carry my bag? It's too heavy. Wah, wah.
Glad to see that The Real Housewives of New Jersey Lacrosse are back at it. Girls keep it up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/05/20 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if the Mad Dog 2024 team is folding? Apparently the kids on the team have been trying out a various teams across the state. I heard a few of their better players are leaning towards Blue Star and some of the other kids are going to Garden State Lacrosse????

No skin in the game, but I would not be surprised, a lot of shore area kids have been gravitating towards Blue Star, not sure about garden state.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/20 01:50 PM
Their 2025 team is pretty good but going to fall apart just like the teams before them. The 2024 team is not that good. I saw them play and although they won they were playing what looked like recreation teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/06/20 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Their 2025 team is pretty good but going to fall apart just like the teams before them. The 2024 team is not that good. I saw them play and although they won they were playing what looked like recreation teams.

How do we know if their 2025 team is any good, did they play any games this summer? Parents can't be happy paying all the money for pratices. RFH players moving to Blue Star!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/07/20 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Their 2025 team is pretty good but going to fall apart just like the teams before them. The 2024 team is not that good. I saw them play and although they won they were playing what looked like recreation teams.

How do we know if their 2025 team is any good, did they play any games this summer? Parents can't be happy paying all the money for pratices. RFH players moving to Blue Star!

Played yesterday, almost lost to 02 and lost to Shore2Shore. Bulldogs out!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/10/20 12:54 PM
What clubs do a good job developing players? Does BBL do a good job with the Helix (B) team too?

I think it comes down to who is coach vs. the club imo

And playing the right competition at a young age. Too easy makes for bad habits, too hard can be hard. But I will take a good game and a L over a big win, because then my kid is at least learning.

I do wish there was standard LAX flighting similar to soccer as each tournament seems to be different and sooo many clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/10/20 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What clubs do a good job developing players? Does BBL do a good job with the Helix (B) team too?

I think it comes down to who is coach vs. the club imo

And playing the right competition at a young age. Too easy makes for bad habits, too hard can be hard. But I will take a good game and a L over a big win, because then my kid is at least learning.

I do wish there was standard LAX flighting similar to soccer as each tournament seems to be different and sooo many clubs.

BBL and Bluestar have the most options from a developmental perspective, they have teams to fit many skill levels.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/10/20 07:32 PM
Any turth to Mad Dog 2025 team breaking up? Rummor parents are contacting NJLC to take the entire team after their coach got sacked
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/10/20 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any turth to Mad Dog 2025 team breaking up? Rummor parents are contacting NJLC to take the entire team after their coach got sacked

Why NJLC, geography?....If it is a matter of convenience, they would be better off bringing a team to United. If the team is good enough, United will put them in good tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/11/20 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any turth to Mad Dog 2025 team breaking up? Rummor parents are contacting NJLC to take the entire team after their coach got sacked

Why NJLC, geography?....If it is a matter of convenience, they would be better off bringing a team to United. If the team is good enough, United will put them in good tournaments.
Its ture but the dad trying to move some of the players should get asked to leave the team after his behavior this weekend. Alcohol and youth sports don't mix.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/11/20 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any turth to Mad Dog 2025 team breaking up? Rummor parents are contacting NJLC to take the entire team after their coach got sacked

Why NJLC, geography?....If it is a matter of convenience, they would be better off bringing a team to United. If the team is good enough, United will put them in good tournaments.
Its ture but the dad trying to move some of the players should get asked to leave the team after his behavior this weekend. Alcohol and youth sports don't mix.

That's very unfortunate, sorry for the boys and parents that have to deal with that kind of situation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/12/20 08:12 PM
Lots of talk about the HS teams, but what are the best 2025 and 2026 NJ teams out there (7th and 8th grade).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/12/20 09:22 PM
2025 - Tri-state, Mad Dog, BBL Black and Jersey Express (formerly Tribal)
2026 - BBL Black, Jersey Express, and United
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2025 - Tri-state, Mad Dog, BBL Black and Jersey Express (formerly Tribal)
2026 - BBL Black, Jersey Express, and United
United lost a bunch of games last weekend. Not sure why they would be a top team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 12:21 PM
Jersey Express. (Tribal) i believe the express program will help South Jersey Lacrosse. The program Tribal merged with Mike CoachC and Express program, he will have his finger prints all over the jersey program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 12:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2025 - Tri-state, Mad Dog, BBL Black and Jersey Express (formerly Tribal)
2026 - BBL Black, Jersey Express, and United
United lost a bunch of games last weekend. Not sure why they would be a top team?
Was this listed made someone at BBL or Tribal?
Alot of 2025 Mad Dog, BBL &Tri-State kids at Jersey Express and Leading Edge tryouts. I guess the NLF does mean something
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 02:45 PM
Seems like a lot of kids at both the 2025 and 2026 level are leaving BBL this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 02:55 PM
At the 2026, lots of BBL players at various tryouts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the 2026, lots of BBL players at various tryouts.
Leading Edge making a push down to build teams before they get to 8th grade
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 04:23 PM
NJ 2026 best team is Towermen.... not even a question
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 05:47 PM
Towermen is likely getting better. They are getting several players including an attackman, a goalie and others from BBL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 06:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the 2026, lots of BBL players at various tryouts.
Leading Edge making a push down to build teams before they get to 8th grade

Why is this any different than other years, they just cannot seem to draw the younger kids. Perhaps parents would rather stick with local programs, less travel for practices, etc. before committing to LE. The other problem is that many are turned off by the fact that LE does not show a ton of loyalty when the teams hit high school. LE has had some great high school teams over the years, but they have had a lot of trouble recently competing with the other NLF programs, many of those NLF teams know how to play the re-class game very well. Go to any large tournament and look at the players that teams like the Crabs are putting on the field in high school. While most teams have two or three big kids, these big MD programs have the size and height across the whole roster, not to mention the guest players that tend to show up. As for kids going to several tryouts, this is exactly what parents should do if they are not happy with their current product, but the grass is not always greener on a big name teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 06:53 PM
L.E. does get some kids recruited. But why play there when younger unless there is some loyalty to current players. Good players can just play locally or for some other club and then if LE is good and they are good move over there in HS. I do not think LE is the only program without loyalty to current players, but it is a bad reputation for a team to have.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 07:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
L.E. does get some kids recruited. But why play there when younger unless there is some loyalty to current players. Good players can just play locally or for some other club and then if LE is good and they are good move over there in HS. I do not think LE is the only program without loyalty to current players, but it is a bad reputation for a team to have.

Amazing when people actually agree on these forums...and I do agree that LE is not the only club with loyalty issues.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/13/20 08:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
L.E. does get some kids recruited. But why play there when younger unless there is some loyalty to current players. Good players can just play locally or for some other club and then if LE is good and they are good move over there in HS. I do not think LE is the only program without loyalty to current players, but it is a bad reputation for a team to have.

Amazing when people actually agree on these forums...and I do agree that LE is not the only club with loyalty issues.

Now that LE had their '24 callback yesterday, how many current players will get pushed out on a drop of a hat. Imagine how those families feel being discarded like used snot rag. LE does not develop youth players. They simply expect top players to join them in HS and act all arrogant about it. I'm rooting for their system to fail starting now. I'm confident they will fail. I can't wait to post back here how that team do against other Jersey teams where they will fail. I will bet they will not be close to being the top team in NJ. Forget NLF where they will be canon fodder. TLDR;LE <- Fail
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/14/20 08:34 AM
I think everyone is missing the boat when it comes to 2026. Without a doubt it is a one player team but Tigers 26 has to be considered the best team in NJ. I saw them play several times this summer and they are the real deal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/14/20 10:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think everyone is missing the boat when it comes to 2026. Without a doubt it is a one player team but Tigers 26 has to be considered the best team in NJ. I saw them play several times this summer and they are the real deal.
Tigers 26 are based in PA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/14/20 02:29 PM
Patriot Chrome and Steps also good 2026 teams. Both teams also offered spots to current players this year because of COVID as a thank you for sticking with them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/14/20 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
L.E. does get some kids recruited. But why play there when younger unless there is some loyalty to current players. Good players can just play locally or for some other club and then if LE is good and they are good move over there in HS. I do not think LE is the only program without loyalty to current players, but it is a bad reputation for a team to have.

Amazing when people actually agree on these forums...and I do agree that LE is not the only club with loyalty issues.

Now that LE had their '24 callback yesterday, how many current players will get pushed out on a drop of a hat. Imagine how those families feel being discarded like used snot rag. LE does not develop youth players. They simply expect top players to join them in HS and act all arrogant about it. I'm rooting for their system to fail starting now. I'm confident they will fail. I can't wait to post back here how that team do against other Jersey teams where they will fail. I will bet they will not be close to being the top team in NJ. Forget NLF where they will be canon fodder. TLDR;LE <- Fail

The callback is total BS, nothing but a money grab. They already know the kids that they want, but have the callback to get another $70 out of the parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/14/20 05:42 PM
Really bad job out of Patriot. Should have told people that the rosters were set from the prior year. A lot of new players showed up to the tryout (about 40 kids), paid a tryout fee to only learn after the fact that the teams were basically set. Don't tell your team that the team is set but keep that a secret from the people you are hitting up up for a tryout fee. Be honest and say we only have a few open spots and that tryouts will therefore be limited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/14/20 05:49 PM
Does anyone know when LE tryout results are to be announced.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/14/20 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know when LE tryout results are to be announced.

Probably pretty quick because they already know who is making the team. A few years back, they used to start eliminating kids at the callback. For what its worth, I know a lot of people that, in hindsight, are happy that their kids didn't make the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know when LE tryout results are to be announced.

Probably pretty quick because they already know who is making the team. A few years back, they used to start eliminating kids at the callback. For what its worth, I know a lot of people that, in hindsight, are happy that their kids didn't make the team.

Their model is not sustainable. You can't rely on gullible families year after year. Word gets out. Especially with social media and forums like this. Eventually the scam is exposed. The collapse begins with this incoming freshmen team. I know the players they wanted did not come even when they held a callback as last chance. They will be surpassed by other NJ clubs in HS. I'll come back here to remind you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 01:27 AM
That's because their tryout is late and kids are trying out as a "back-up".
Most of the people I know at BBL (both teams) are happy with everything.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 01:32 AM
That's because their tryout is late and kids are trying out as a "back-up".
Most of the people I know at BBL (both teams) are happy with everything.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really bad job out of Patriot. Should have told people that the rosters were set from the prior year. A lot of new players showed up to the tryout (about 40 kids), paid a tryout fee to only learn after the fact that the teams were basically set. Don't tell your team that the team is set but keep that a secret from the people you are hitting up up for a tryout fee. Be honest and say we only have a few open spots and that tryouts will therefore be limited.


Not true. Teams not set as kids leave to go to other teams or are just done with summer lacrosse so they need to fill spots.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know when LE tryout results are to be announced.

Probably pretty quick because they already know who is making the team. A few years back, they used to start eliminating kids at the callback. For what its worth, I know a lot of people that, in hindsight, are happy that their kids didn't make the team.

Their model is not sustainable. You can't rely on gullible families year after year. Word gets out. Especially with social media and forums like this. Eventually the scam is exposed. The collapse begins with this incoming freshmen team. I know the players they wanted did not come even when they held a callback as last chance. They will be surpassed by other NJ clubs in HS. I'll come back here to remind you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know when LE tryout results are to be announced.

Probably pretty quick because they already know who is making the team. A few years back, they used to start eliminating kids at the callback. For what its worth, I know a lot of people that, in hindsight, are happy that their kids didn't make the team.

Their model is not sustainable. You can't rely on gullible families year after year. Word gets out. Especially with social media and forums like this. Eventually the scam is exposed. The collapse begins with this incoming freshmen team. I know the players they wanted did not come even when they held a callback as last chance. They will be surpassed by other NJ clubs in HS. I'll come back here to remind you.

Why the detest? Did you get cut? You're really going to come back here and taunt people a year or 2 from now? That's pretty telling. Move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the 2026, lots of BBL players at various tryouts.


Kids should be trying out at multiple clubs, too many waste the chance to compare clubs and get disappointed when they lose there spot at current clubs or move down. Doing other tryouts doesnt mean a player wants to leave current it may mean they are testing waters elsewhere. The older a player gets the more critical this becomes, playing time is more important than the club in most cases. You cant improve if your not playing much. maybe you kid is a good LSM but the one in front of him is better, go find a club that needs your kid at LSM. Few rotations in a game is no fun.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really bad job out of Patriot. Should have told people that the rosters were set from the prior year. A lot of new players showed up to the tryout (about 40 kids), paid a tryout fee to only learn after the fact that the teams were basically set. Don't tell your team that the team is set but keep that a secret from the people you are hitting up up for a tryout fee. Be honest and say we only have a few open spots and that tryouts will therefore be limited.


Not true. Teams not set as kids leave to go to other teams or are just done with summer lacrosse so they need to fill spots.

No team is "set"...if the right kid comes along, they are going to offer him a spot....there is also something to be said about being loyal to your current players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]L.E. does get some kids recruited. But why play there when younger unless there is some loyalty to current players. Good players can just play locally or for some other club and then if LE is good and they are good move over there in HS. I do not think LE is the only program without loyalty to current players, but it is a bad reputation for a team to have.

Amazing when people actually agree on these forums...and I do agree that LE is not the only club with loyalty issues.

Now that LE had their '24 callback yesterday, how many current players will get pushed out on a drop of a hat. Imagine how those families feel being discarded like used snot rag. LE does not develop youth players. They simply expect top players to join them in HS and act all arrogant about it. I'm rooting for their system to fail starting now. I'm confident they will fail. I can't wait to post back here how that team do against other Jersey teams where they will fail. I will bet they will not be close to being the top team in NJ. Forget NLF where they will be canon fodder. TLDR;LE <- Fail

The callback is total BS, nothing but a money grab. They already know the kids that they want, but have the callback to get another $70 out of the parents.[/quote

Tryout fees in general are a money grab, $6-, $70, $80 for 2 hour tryout is crazy. 80-100 kids for a field rental and 3 dollar pinney means clubs get an extra payday. its the biggest scam around and this is beyond the 3500 fee for the year. We are all suckers, just admit it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 05:04 PM
I agree. They still had spots just offered current players because of Covid year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the 2026, lots of BBL players at various tryouts.


Kids should be trying out at multiple clubs, too many waste the chance to compare clubs and get disappointed when they lose there spot at current clubs or move down. Doing other tryouts doesnt mean a player wants to leave current it may mean they are testing waters elsewhere. The older a player gets the more critical this becomes, playing time is more important than the club in most cases. You cant improve if your not playing much. maybe you kid is a good LSM but the one in front of him is better, go find a club that needs your kid at LSM. Few rotations in a game is no fun.

This guy gets it. No shame in trying out other clubs even if the intent is not to leave the team. Club directors should never hold it against anyone. I say this bec this is not the case all of the time. And that's a shame.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/15/20 10:38 PM
Agree 100%. Loyalty to prior players should be rewarded in all years, but especially in the Covid year. I see nothing wrong with filling your team with players from last year and then conducting tryouts to replace kids who left the program this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/16/20 10:14 PM
Did Leading Edge cut most of their 2024 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/16/20 11:11 PM
Bbl 2026 do you think they will add players?
I heard both teams played well, so I don’t know.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 12:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Leading Edge cut most of their 2024 team.
No.. should only add new parts but I'm sure a number of kids will get cut.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 03:52 AM
How many showed up at 2024 tryout? Did results come out yet?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 11:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many showed up at 2024 tryout? Did results come out yet?
If they get them all they added some very good players. At least 3 that were invited to Showtime.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 12:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
L.E. does get some kids recruited. But why play there when younger unless there is some loyalty to current players. Good players can just play locally or for some other club and then if LE is good and they are good move over there in HS. I do not think LE is the only program without loyalty to current players, but it is a bad reputation for a team to have.

Amazing when people actually agree on these forums...and I do agree that LE is not the only club with loyalty issues.

Now that LE had their '24 callback yesterday, how many current players will get pushed out on a drop of a hat. Imagine how those families feel being discarded like used snot rag. LE does not develop youth players. They simply expect top players to join them in HS and act all arrogant about it. I'm rooting for their system to fail starting now. I'm confident they will fail. I can't wait to post back here how that team do against other Jersey teams where they will fail. I will bet they will not be close to being the top team in NJ. Forget NLF where they will be canon fodder. TLDR;LE <- Fail
What happend to up or out? I get it if a kid hasn't developed physically. If a kid doen't hit the gym or pick up their stick outside of LE why should the kid that does be requied to play with the kid becuase of some loyalty? Before you post about loyalty maybe you should speak to the kids that are working hard and see if they still want thoese kids on their team. My guess they don't.
You keep telling your son that loyalty means more than hard work, i'm sure just like your dad you can get him a job too.
Posted By: NJLaxer2020 Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 12:18 PM
What is showtime? Did they cut alot of the 2024 LE kids? Is this fun during a COVID year. Ha ha
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 12:24 PM
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 12:44 PM
FAKE NEWS! None of the top players are leaving BBL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 01:14 PM
IMO. It is a joke that any club cut players during Covid. Anyone who wanted to play in 2020-2021 should be given preference over those kids who are moving. No spring season and truncated summer season. If you were good enough for 19-20, they should be permitted to stay on club. Hats off to those teams who keep their 19-20 roster for 20-21.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 02:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
You should be the top team, you don't charge your best players to play. I heard they even give gass money to the kids driving up from the shore? Mom is making money playing for BBL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
BBL 2026 also clearly the best in Jersey...not even anyone close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 03:07 PM
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 03:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
BBL 2026 also clearly the best in Jersey...not even anyone close.

Didn't BBL 2026 lose to both Towermen and Tribal two weeks ago. While they may be the best club, hard to claim that no other 2026 teams are "even close" to BBL when they lost to two Jersey teams ten days ago.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
L.E. does get some kids recruited. But why play there when younger unless there is some loyalty to current players. Good players can just play locally or for some other club and then if LE is good and they are good move over there in HS. I do not think LE is the only program without loyalty to current players, but it is a bad reputation for a team to have.

Amazing when people actually agree on these forums...and I do agree that LE is not the only club with loyalty issues.

Now that LE had their '24 callback yesterday, how many current players will get pushed out on a drop of a hat. Imagine how those families feel being discarded like used snot rag. LE does not develop youth players. They simply expect top players to join them in HS and act all arrogant about it. I'm rooting for their system to fail starting now. I'm confident they will fail. I can't wait to post back here how that team do against other Jersey teams where they will fail. I will bet they will not be close to being the top team in NJ. Forget NLF where they will be canon fodder. TLDR;LE <- Fail
What happend to up or out? I get it if a kid hasn't developed physically. If a kid doen't hit the gym or pick up their stick outside of LE why should the kid that does be requied to play with the kid becuase of some loyalty? Before you post about loyalty maybe you should speak to the kids that are working hard and see if they still want thoese kids on their team. My guess they don't.
You keep telling your son that loyalty means more than hard work, i'm sure just like your dad you can get him a job too.

I think loyalty should play a factor when two players are close. If LE rates two kids as equal or the new player only marginally better than loyalty should play a factor and they keep the current player. If a current player rates much lower because they even have not kept up their skills or not developed those skills than cutting the current player in favor of a newer player makes more sense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
You should be the top team, you don't charge your best players to play. I heard they even give gass money to the kids driving up from the shore? Mom is making money playing for BBL

You wish. Tell your club's top 3 players to try out for the team even if they already committed to yours. Actually, you probably don't need to do that, they will probably be there today. They can always stop payment for their deposit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
BBL 2026 also clearly the best in Jersey...not even anyone close.

I know we can get confused by the details of how sports work. So let me make this simple. Being the best in the state usually requires winning games against other top teams in the state.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxer2020
What is showtime? Did they cut alot of the 2024 LE kids? Is this fun during a COVID year. Ha ha
What the heck is showtime? showtime for what?. It doesn't matter if the team is still non-competitive. You can call it whatever you want.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 05:32 PM
Towermen beat BBL Black 2026 a few weeks back. Not sure how that make BBL Black the best 2026 team by a wide margin as implied by that post.
Posted By: NJLaxer2020 Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 05:35 PM
I keep hearing good things about Towermen. Does anyone know much about them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
BBL 2026 also clearly the best in Jersey...not even anyone close.

I know we can get confused by the details of how sports work. So let me make this simple. Being the best in the state usually requires winning games against other top teams in the state.

How about I make it even simpler. It's sustained excellence that matters. Not fly by night operations that come and go. BBL will show these teams what that means next time they play one another. Besides, BBL aims at national level. in-state is where they practice and experiment with their roster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by NJLaxer2020
I keep hearing good things about Towermen. Does anyone know much about them?

It is a 2026 only team, originally out of Northern Bergen County. Now pulling kids from all over the state.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
BBL 2026 also clearly the best in Jersey...not even anyone close.

I know we can get confused by the details of how sports work. So let me make this simple. Being the best in the state usually requires winning games against other top teams in the state.

How about I make it even simpler. It's sustained excellence that matters. Not fly by night operations that come and go. BBL will show these teams what that means next time they play one another. Besides, BBL aims at national level. in-state is where they practice and experiment with their roster.


Your originally claim was that "BBL 2026 is clearly the best in Jersey...not even anyone close." You then claim that sustained excellence matter and you will show these teams what that means next time they play each other. However, if you practice and experiment with your roster, fine. But if you are clearly the best and that no one is even close than you would win even if your experiment with your roster. Think Hawks in Maryland who dominate every game against Maryland opponents. Your then pathetic attempt to say sustained excellence matters, is nothing more than an attempt to change the topic from your baseless assertion to another baseless assertion that these other teams are fly by night operations, especially given that one of these teams has been around as long as BBL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
BBL 2026 also clearly the best in Jersey...not even anyone close.

I know we can get confused by the details of how sports work. So let me make this simple. Being the best in the state usually requires winning games against other top teams in the state.

How about I make it even simpler. It's sustained excellence that matters. Not fly by night operations that come and go. BBL will show these teams what that means next time they play one another. Besides, BBL aims at national level. in-state is where they practice and experiment with their roster.

I guess with the exception of the 2023 team, they still have a tough time in NJ
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/17/20 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that BBL lost several players so they will be looking to replace players. They may be hurt by being the last tryout.
BBL tryouts this week. Let me put it on record and come back here when all NJ club teams are set and they get to play each other (let's hope Covid doesn't get worse): For 2024, BBL Black will remain the best team in NJ by a mile. If your club disagrees, ask your director to setup a game with them.
You should be the top team, you don't charge your best players to play. I heard they even give gass money to the kids driving up from the shore? Mom is making money playing for BBL

You wish. Tell your club's top 3 players to try out for the team even if they already committed to yours. Actually, you probably don't need to do that, they will probably be there today. They can always stop payment for their deposit.
I don't wish I know..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 11:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
That was a long time ago. It all changes in high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
That was a long time ago. It all changes in high school.
This has to be a kid on the BBL team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
That was a long time ago. It all changes in high school.
This has to be a kid on the BBL team.

Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
That was a long time ago. It all changes in high school.
This has to be a kid on the BBL team.

Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.
So you're saying your club team will roll in NLF bec they were never ranked anywhere ever? I'll have my popcorn ready.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 02:50 PM
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 03:17 PM
Has anyone’s kid ever moved off an alternate or wait list. My son (young) is there, which is especially “fun” during a covid year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
That was a long time ago. It all changes in high school.
This has to be a kid on the BBL team.

Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.
So you're saying your club team will roll in NLF bec they were never ranked anywhere ever? I'll have my popcorn ready.

Not sure what you are saying, but clearly you are missing the point. WSYL rankings are meaningless and have no bearing on, the success of a team in the future, or whether a kid will stay or leave. Despite what a parent may tell you on the sideline, every parent is always evaluating whether there is a better opportunity out there for their kid. Bottom line is that I would not necessarily count on all of those kids sticking together forever, I assure you that some will leave.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 03:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
That was a long time ago. It all changes in high school.
This has to be a kid on the BBL team.
I hope it was a kid and not a parent or someone associated with the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

No one is leaving black. It is the best team in NJ. Helix is a B team, Those kids are the 20-40 best kids in that program, so maybe some of them will move on but not sure any of the elite teams would want them, so likely still best to stay with Helix as it provides more opportunities than a traditional B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The core players are sticking together. To remind you, this team is ranked #2 in the world at World Series. Need any more proof?

2. BBL Elite (N.J.)
After finishing second in the WSYL East Qualifier, BBL Elite looked to prove they were indeed a title contender and one of the top programs in the world. BBL went on an incredible run, finishing 5-0 in pool play and routing No. 8 Evolve Elite Ontario 16-3 in the Quarterfinals. BBL Elite eventually fell to Team 91 Wolfpack in the Semifinals in what would be Team 91’s narrowest margin of victory in the entire Championship Series (8-5). BBL proved to be an offensive force throughout the event, scoring a combined 90 goals in seven games. BBL was led by WSYL scoring leading Cody Lam, who tallied 25 goals and four assists. He also had the help of his two other attackmen Daniel Dalessandro (15G, 6A) and Christian Schweiger (9G, 17A). Previous Rank: 7
That was a long time ago. It all changes in high school.
This has to be a kid on the BBL team.

Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.
So you're saying your club team will roll in NLF bec they were never ranked anywhere ever? I'll have my popcorn ready.

Not sure what you are saying, but clearly you are missing the point. WSYL rankings are meaningless and have no bearing on, the success of a team in the future, or whether a kid will stay or leave. Despite what a parent may tell you on the sideline, every parent is always evaluating whether there is a better opportunity out there for their kid. Bottom line is that I would not necessarily count on all of those kids sticking together forever, I assure you that some will leave.

Ok let me explain it like you're five. You are saying rankings are totally meaningless. So a top ranked team playing your unranked (and will never crack any ranking) team should not matter and you have a shot. ok got it. Your narrative fits the level of your club team. For that, I don't blame you for keep telling yourself that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone’s kid ever moved off an alternate or wait list. My son (young) is there, which is especially “fun” during a covid year.

I have heard some kids being moved off. Usually it is because offers are made to kids who then say no and they move them off the wait list. However, there are lots of places to play, with more clubs starting every day, so your son, especially if he is young, should be able to find a place to play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 05:12 PM
Mad Dog getting neutered, losing players again
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

No one is leaving black. It is the best team in NJ. Helix is a B team, Those kids are the 20-40 best kids in that program, so maybe some of them will move on but not sure any of the elite teams would want them, so likely still best to stay with Helix as it provides more opportunities than a traditional B team.

No matter what the BBL parents say, kids are leaving BBL for other clubs, including Towermen, Leading Edge and others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Really? Towermen seemed pretty set at attack and goalie this summer. Wonder where the departing Towermen attackmen and goalie went?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 06:15 PM
Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.[/quote]
So you're saying your club team will roll in NLF bec they were never ranked anywhere ever? I'll have my popcorn ready.[/quote]

Not sure what you are saying, but clearly you are missing the point. WSYL rankings are meaningless and have no bearing on, the success of a team in the future, or whether a kid will stay or leave. Despite what a parent may tell you on the sideline, every parent is always evaluating whether there is a better opportunity out there for their kid. Bottom line is that I would not necessarily count on all of those kids sticking together forever, I assure you that some will leave.[/quote]

Ok let me explain it like you're five. You are saying rankings are totally meaningless. So a top ranked team playing your unranked (and will never crack any ranking) team should not matter and you have a shot. ok got it. Your narrative fits the level of your club team. For that, I don't blame you for keep telling yourself that.[/quote]

Perhaps the five year-old can clear it up for you, rankings from the WSYL from over a year ago are meaningless, much like the WSYL and US Club lacrosse rankings in general. That being said, while flawed in their own right, at least the US Club lacrosse rankings show all teams as opposed to the WSYL created "on-age" teams. Perhaps if you stopped taking is personally, as if you were 14 and on the team, you would be able to understand all of this big kid talk.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 06:23 PM
Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.[/quote]
So you're saying your club team will roll in NLF bec they were never ranked anywhere ever? I'll have my popcorn ready.[/quote]

Not sure what you are saying, but clearly you are missing the point. WSYL rankings are meaningless and have no bearing on, the success of a team in the future, or whether a kid will stay or leave. Despite what a parent may tell you on the sideline, every parent is always evaluating whether there is a better opportunity out there for their kid. Bottom line is that I would not necessarily count on all of those kids sticking together forever, I assure you that some will leave.[/quote]

Ok let me explain it like you're five. You are saying rankings are totally meaningless. So a top ranked team playing your unranked (and will never crack any ranking) team should not matter and you have a shot. ok got it. Your narrative fits the level of your club team. For that, I don't blame you for keep telling yourself that.[/quote]

Yet, after all of that success, they were ranked 14 in US Club lacrosse pre-season rankings this year...much different when you put all the big clubs in the mix.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.
So you're saying your club team will roll in NLF bec they were never ranked anywhere ever? I'll have my popcorn ready.

Not sure what you are saying, but clearly you are missing the point. WSYL rankings are meaningless and have no bearing on, the success of a team in the future, or whether a kid will stay or leave. Despite what a parent may tell you on the sideline, every parent is always evaluating whether there is a better opportunity out there for their kid. Bottom line is that I would not necessarily count on all of those kids sticking together forever, I assure you that some will leave.

Ok let me explain it like you're five. You are saying rankings are totally meaningless. So a top ranked team playing your unranked (and will never crack any ranking) team should not matter and you have a shot. ok got it. Your narrative fits the level of your club team. For that, I don't blame you for keep telling yourself that.

Yet, after all of that success, they were ranked 14 in US Club lacrosse pre-season rankings this year...much different when you put all the big clubs in the mix.

Wow. BBL is clearly in your head. You had to research rankings. That's great. By the way, did you find your son's team? I didn't think so. I won't call you pathetic. I actually feel sorry for you. I can picture you pecking away on your keyboard with two fingers googling stuff. You can't even figure out how to do a proper reply in this forum. Classic boomer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 08:52 PM
would somebody mind breaking down the debate for me? I got lost a few messages ago and ...oh wait. I don't care. please continue to waste your time with this debate. Better you write it all down here than infect other real humans with it in the real world.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody that throws out WSYL rankings a year later is pathetic... 91 Bandits was the best 2023 team...look at how they have done since then, they revamped the team with some holdbacks and still get smacked in the NLF. The core will stick together until something better comes along, and if you think that there is nothing better out there, you are delusional..wait until a few kids go and "guest" play for another club.
So you're saying your club team will roll in NLF bec they were never ranked anywhere ever? I'll have my popcorn ready.

Not sure what you are saying, but clearly you are missing the point. WSYL rankings are meaningless and have no bearing on, the success of a team in the future, or whether a kid will stay or leave. Despite what a parent may tell you on the sideline, every parent is always evaluating whether there is a better opportunity out there for their kid. Bottom line is that I would not necessarily count on all of those kids sticking together forever, I assure you that some will leave.

Ok let me explain it like you're five. You are saying rankings are totally meaningless. So a top ranked team playing your unranked (and will never crack any ranking) team should not matter and you have a shot. ok got it. Your narrative fits the level of your club team. For that, I don't blame you for keep telling yourself that.

Yet, after all of that success, they were ranked 14 in US Club lacrosse pre-season rankings this year...much different when you put all the big clubs in the mix.

Wow. BBL is clearly in your head. You had to research rankings. That's great. By the way, did you find your son's team? I didn't think so. I won't call you pathetic. I actually feel sorry for you. I can picture you pecking away on your keyboard with two fingers googling stuff. You can't even figure out how to do a proper reply in this forum. Classic boomer.

Not a lot of research needed, I saw them play at NAL. Point is, no need to come on here, brag about the team and post meaningless rankings, the team will earn whatever respect they deserve on the field. Just enjoy watching your son play, the results may not be the best all of the time, but hopefully your son is enjoying the experience. As you saw this summer, the competition gets really tough, but that can be a good character building experience for your son and the rest of the team if they put things into perspective. Unfortunately, when the results are not what you hoped for, despite playing a very hard schedule, kids and parents get frustrated and start to explore whether the grass is greener elsewhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/18/20 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
would somebody mind breaking down the debate for me? I got lost a few messages ago and ...oh wait. I don't care. please continue to waste your time with this debate. Better you write it all down here than infect other real humans with it in the real world.
What are you talking about. This board has been crickets for many months before these arguments. Are you not entertained? Go ahead prof, tell us what's on your mind.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 02:30 AM
LE & Blue Star 2024 would both beat BBL by 5 with the teams they are putting together. United might beat BBL if the Shore lefty says with his real team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mad Dog getting neutered, losing players again
I'm not sure anyone cares.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE & Blue Star 2024 would both beat BBL by 5 with the teams they are putting together. United might beat BBL if the Shore lefty says with his real team.

what a crazy comment. "Real Team"? No idea who this comment is directed at, but it sounds like the "Shore Lefty" is leaving one team to go to another. This dude is making it sound like the "Shore Lefty" signed a timeshare contract that he can't get out of!!!

I'd also love to know what types of teams LE and BS are "putting together"? Is this dude driving all over the great state of New Jersey peeping in on 2024 tryouts?

Bottom line... this dude is creepy no mattter how you look at it!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE & Blue Star 2024 would both beat BBL by 5 with the teams they are putting together. United might beat BBL if the Shore lefty says with his real team.
Take Bluestar out of it. They're nothing but a glorified town team. But now we're talking. 20204 Leading Edge vs BBL this fall. Newly built teams. Hope this happens. Bluestar players should be invited to watch and learn.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE & Blue Star 2024 would both beat BBL by 5 with the teams they are putting together. United might beat BBL if the Shore lefty says with his real team.
Take Bluestar out of it. They're nothing but a glorified town team. But now we're talking. 20204 Leading Edge vs BBL this fall. Newly built teams. Hope this happens. Bluestar players should be invited to watch and learn.
Oh snap!!!! BS on notice! We need someone to come up in here and defend blue stars honor!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 02:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LE & Blue Star 2024 would both beat BBL by 5 with the teams they are putting together. United might beat BBL if the Shore lefty says with his real team.
Take Bluestar out of it. They're nothing but a glorified town team. But now we're talking. 20204 Leading Edge vs BBL this fall. Newly built teams. Hope this happens. Bluestar players should be invited to watch and learn.
Oh snap!!!! BS on notice! We need someone to come up in here and defend blue stars honor!
BS? .. never mind.. also, defend honor by beating these teams. something that will NEVER happen. actually, beat 3d first then come back here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 03:00 PM
Why does anybody need to defend anything, it's a ridiculous discussion. While the true test would be if the teams played, unfortunately, these clubs do not like to play each other.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Everyone from BBL will be at the tryout today. No 2026 players are going anywhere especially neither of their goalies and certainly none of there top attackman or middie.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does anybody need to defend anything, it's a ridiculous discussion. While the true test would be if the teams played, unfortunately, these clubs do not like to play each other.
It would be nice to have an all NJ tournament so that we don't have to travel and quarantine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Everyone from BBL will be at the tryout today. No 2026 players are going anywhere especially neither of their goalies and certainly none of there top attackman or middie.
Not accouding to the money they have already paid another club!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 06:49 PM
I heard kids leaving for LE and towermen.
But who knows. Bbl black 2026 top on that age group.

I also heard that bbl is creating 3 teams. Is that correct?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Everyone from BBL will be at the tryout today. No 2026 players are going anywhere especially neither of their goalies and certainly none of there top attackman or middie.
Not accouding to the money they have already paid another club!


Please...we already know that the "other club" provides scholarships so these studs don't have to fork over any bread.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Everyone from BBL will be at the tryout today. No 2026 players are going anywhere especially neither of their goalies and certainly none of there top attackman or middie.
Not accouding to the money they have already paid another club!


Please...we already know that the "other club" provides scholarships so these studs don't have to fork over any bread.
People leaving BBL not go to BBL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Everyone from BBL will be at the tryout today. No 2026 players are going anywhere especially neither of their goalies and certainly none of there top attackman or middie.
Not accouding to the money they have already paid another club!


Please...we already know that the "other club" provides scholarships so these studs don't have to fork over any bread.

What "other club" is providing scholarships
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 09:49 PM
I heard 50 kids at bbl tryout for 2 teams. I guess we will see how it goes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Everyone from BBL will be at the tryout today. No 2026 players are going anywhere especially neither of their goalies and certainly none of there top attackman or middie.
Not accouding to the money they have already paid another club!


Please...we already know that the "other club" provides scholarships so these studs don't have to fork over any bread.
People leaving BBL not go to BBL.

Wow. The grammar and spelling on this thread is impressive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/19/20 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 50 kids at bbl tryout for 2 teams. I guess we will see how it goes.

It appeared to be closer to 60 kids. 7 goalies trying out, 15 defenders or LSM, 15 attackmen, 20 middies, and at least 4 FOGOs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there BBL Black and Helix 2026 kids leaving?

Three 2026 BBL players, an attack, a middie and a goalie left BBL for Towermen.

Everyone from BBL will be at the tryout today. No 2026 players are going anywhere especially neither of their goalies and certainly none of there top attackman or middie.
Not accouding to the money they have already paid another club!


Please...we already know that the "other club" provides scholarships so these studs don't have to fork over any bread.

People leaving BBL not go to BBL.

Seems like kids want to come play for BBL. My son, who played BBL this summer said he heard that there were kids from United, Leading Edge, Riot (including a goalie), a middie from 2-way and a goalie from Towermen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 12:47 AM
But that’s for 2 teams right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 50 kids at bbl tryout for 2 teams. I guess we will see how it goes.

It appeared to be closer to 60 kids. 7 goalies trying out, 15 defenders or LSM, 15 attackmen, 20 middies, and at least 4 FOGOs.

I also heard BBL is making investments to improve their HS college recruitment program. When this happens, Leading Edge will lose its edge in this area. No pun intended.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 02:19 AM
BBL rising HS freshmen Black team callback tryout tomorrow. This is the same team that put NJ lacrosse on the map at World Series. If you want to see what a hotly contested tryout looks like, bring a lawn chair.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 03:55 AM
No skin in the game here but doesn’t 2024 BBL have two teams already. That would have be close to 50 kids just between them. Please correct me if I’m mistaken I’m not like these other people on here who get all crazy.

P.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 10:50 AM
This was for 2 teams for 2026 and they do have 2 teams already. I don’t think everyone was there from current teams though. But yes, that means a lot of those kids were current players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 10:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No skin in the game here but doesn’t 2024 BBL have two teams already. That would have be close to 50 kids just between them. Please correct me if I’m mistaken I’m not like these other people on here who get all crazy.

P.
They currently have two teams: Black and Helix
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 11:36 AM
most BBL teams do have two teams, including 2024. This does not include BBL North which could also one or two additional teams per age group. So that is about 40-45 kids. The numbers for 2026 appear to be much higher but who knows how many of those are actually interested in playing for BBL team as opposed to just sampling other tryout opportunities.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No skin in the game here but doesn’t 2024 BBL have two teams already. That would have be close to 50 kids just between them. Please correct me if I’m mistaken I’m not like these other people on here who get all crazy.

P.
They currently have two teams: Black and Helix

At the 2026 level, they could put out three teams and still have cuts. Lot of talent at the tryout. Black and Helix were both good at the 2026 level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 12:47 PM
When do the invitations to the BBL players who completed try outs yesterday expect to be sent out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBL rising HS freshmen Black team callback tryout tomorrow. This is the same team that put NJ lacrosse on the map at World Series. If you want to see what a hotly contested tryout looks like, bring a lawn chair.

I'll bring the lawnchairs if you bring the lube! I can't quit you!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 01:12 PM
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No skin in the game here but doesn’t 2024 BBL have two teams already. That would have be close to 50 kids just between them. Please correct me if I’m mistaken I’m not like these other people on here who get all crazy.

P.
They currently have two teams: Black and Helix

At the 2026 level, they could put out three teams and still have cuts. Lot of talent at the tryout. Black and Helix were both good at the 2026 level.
Making another WSYL run. awesome experience if you get to go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
BBL rising HS freshmen Black team callback tryout tomorrow. This is the same team that put NJ lacrosse on the map at World Series. If you want to see what a hotly contested tryout looks like, bring a lawn chair.

I'll bring the lawnchairs if you bring the lube! I can't quit you!

Post of the year!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 02:56 PM
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I heard 50 kids at bbl tryout for 2 teams. I guess we will see how it goes.

It appeared to be closer to 60 kids. 7 goalies trying out, 15 defenders or LSM, 15 attackmen, 20 middies, and at least 4 FOGOs.

I also heard BBL is making investments to improve their HS college recruitment program. When this happens, Leading Edge will lose its edge in this area. No pun intended.
Have BBL and LE played each other in the past few years at the high school level?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 04:30 PM
How could you still have cuts at 2026 level if 60 kids at a tryout? That being said I would go to bbl over LE at youth level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 05:47 PM
Wait teams bring in players to qualify for wsyl??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 06:06 PM
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How could you still have cuts at 2026 level if 60 kids at a tryout? That being said I would go to bbl over LE at youth level.


60 you need cuts. Not enough for 3 teams unless everyone is saying accepts a spot. Plus still have too many at some positions for even 3 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 50 kids at bbl tryout for 2 teams. I guess we will see how it goes.

It appeared to be closer to 60 kids. 7 goalies trying out, 15 defenders or LSM, 15 attackmen, 20 middies, and at least 4 FOGOs.

I also heard BBL is making investments to improve their HS college recruitment program. When this happens, Leading Edge will lose its edge in this area. No pun intended.
Have BBL and LE played each other in the past few years at the high school level?

LE has had the upper hand at the HS level for a while. BBL at the youth level. BBL making a push
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 06:34 PM
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I heard kids leaving for LE and towermen.
But who knows. Bbl black 2026 top on that age group.

I also heard that bbl is creating 3 teams. Is that correct?

Why dilute your product for 3 teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard kids leaving for LE and towermen.
But who knows. Bbl black 2026 top on that age group.

I also heard that bbl is creating 3 teams. Is that correct?

Why dilute your product for 3 teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard kids leaving for LE and towermen.
But who knows. Bbl black 2026 top on that age group.

I also heard that bbl is creating 3 teams. Is that correct?

Why dilute your product for 3 teams

$3000 for 20 kids = $60,000. That is why.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/20/20 07:37 PM
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Wait teams bring in players to qualify for wsyl??

Of course they do. Players who have been with the club for years will get pushed out solely for the purposes for the WSYL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/21/20 02:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait teams bring in players to qualify for wsyl??

Of course they do. Players who have been with the club for years will get pushed out solely for the purposes for the WSYL.

How is Tribal transition going ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/21/20 12:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait teams bring in players to qualify for wsyl??

Of course they do. Players who have been with the club for years will get pushed out solely for the purposes for the WSYL.

How is Tribal transition going ?

Going well so far. Looking forward to being the class of New Jersey next summer. These BBL vs LE debates will be a ancient history shortly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/21/20 03:21 PM
How wou
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait teams bring in players to qualify for wsyl??

Of course they do. Players who have been with the club for years will get pushed out solely for the purposes for the WSYL.

How is Tribal transition going ?

Going well so far. Looking forward to being the class of New Jersey next summer. These BBL vs LE debates will be a ancient history shortly.

Is Express bringing in more players or is it just simply Tribal kids in new uniforms. If the later, how would that change would is the class of NJ.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/21/20 07:06 PM
BBL has posted tryout results for all teams but 2024 and 2026. Anyone know what the deal is with those two teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/21/20 07:42 PM
They had a later tryout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/21/20 07:56 PM
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BBL has posted tryout results for all teams but 2024 and 2026. Anyone know what the deal is with those two teams?
lost alot of players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/22/20 02:26 AM
Did they add a lot of new on helx and black?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/22/20 02:33 AM
What numbers are for the “new” players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/22/20 05:28 PM
9 new on Helix and 5 on black!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/22/20 07:52 PM
And got some solid players from LE.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 12:57 PM
Lax Nationals - NJ 44 Games were great to watch yesterday. NJ has some talent that is spread accross a number of differnt clubs. It was fun to see some of the top players in the state play together. Would love to see more events like this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 02:03 PM
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Lax Nationals - NJ 44 Games were great to watch yesterday. NJ has some talent that is spread accross a number of differnt clubs. It was fun to see some of the top players in the state play together. Would love to see more events like this.

Not sure that a whole lot of clubs were represented...don't let the helmets fool you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 02:43 PM
On NJ clubs I wish there was a way to review clubs, coaches etc. we are the consumers and while a business there are also kids involved.

I feel like there needs to be more accountability with theses clubs. And colleges should care about how some top clubs treat their players and families.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On NJ clubs I wish there was a way to review clubs, coaches etc. we are the consumers and while a business there are also kids involved.

I feel like there needs to be more accountability with theses clubs. And colleges should care about how some top clubs treat their players and families.

I do not disagree, but definitely wishful thinking. I guess that the plus side is that we, as the consumers, have the option to switch clubs if we are not satisfied - not the best option when you have invested a lot of money, but at least it is in option. Think about the days when club sports were not as common, your kids future could be easily derailed by a high school coach who just didn't like your kid, in that case the only option would be to leave the school, if that was even an option financially.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On NJ clubs I wish there was a way to review clubs, coaches etc. we are the consumers and while a business there are also kids involved.

I feel like there needs to be more accountability with theses clubs. And colleges should care about how some the top clubs treat their players and families.

"And colleges should care about how some top clubs treat their players and families."

You are asking colleges to care about how programs treat their players. They could care less. No matter what level of college and no matter the sport, college coaches routinely use and discard players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 03:45 PM
This is an NLF answer to the Under Armor the LE kids were told not to try out for UA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lax Nationals - NJ 44 Games were great to watch yesterday. NJ has some talent that is spread accross a number of differnt clubs. It was fun to see some of the top players in the state play together. Would love to see more events like this.

Not sure that a whole lot of clubs were represented...don't let the helmets fool you


The email said to wear the HS helmet, which helped the visual when most of the kids on the field were LE.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Top Boy's Club Teams in New Jersey - 08/24/20 04:57 PM
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