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Re: Boys 2028-8th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 10:16 PM
Thinking chucks and mamba in championship
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Re: Boys High School Lax Anonymous Yesterday at 09:52 PM
Nassau Lacrosse:
Future & Present:
A’s: This is a conference that is wide open this year. When I say anyone can win it, anyone can win it (meaning the normal four teams). The best team from a talent standpoint is Farmingdale, so I think that who will come out on top, Unfortunately, the team that comes out of Nassau in the A’s will get absolutely wiped out by either HHH, Ward Melville, or Northport. It’s not going to be close.
Farmingdale:
- This is a team that has two really good attackmen, a solid fog and faceoff guy. They have the formula to win the A conference. They have struggled at times this year, but they will find their footing under their new coach. We saw this against Massapequa, a game that wasn’t even close. They have some good underclassmen but I feel this may be their last title for a while. I see them as the second best team in A’s next year and 3rd best for at least the next three years.
Massapequa:
- This is a team that overachieved expectations this year, so far. They lost a lot from a year ago, but their LSM, goalie, and some of the young guys who have stepped up have been the difference. They have some absolutely student freshmen and this will be a very good team in a few years. They will be the second best team in a loaded 'A' conference in a couple of years. I’m just not sure they’ll be balanced enough to win. They lost a really good freshmen goalie to Lawrencevlle and this will hurt them.
Syosset:
- The Syosset record is worse than they actually are. They have had some really unfortunate losses where they have lost their composure and lost the game at the last second. The Cold Spring Harbor and Farmingdale losses come to mind. This team will be dangerous come playoff time, their Hopkins bound midfielder is an absolute student and he can take over a game. They can beat any ‘A’ team come playoff time.However, if the other teams can figure out that one midfielder they don’t stand a chance, he carries them and they don’t have great secondary guys. After this year they will be the worst of the best in the A’s. They don’t have the talent they used to and it may be a while before we see Syosset on top of the A’s.
Port Washington:
- PW has fought valiantly this year and have been in many games they were not supposed to be in. They lost a lot to graduation over the past few years. Now, a very young team with few upperclassmen contributors, they have low chances of winning this year. However, I see a dynasty forming up on the north shore. They have a strong sophomore class, an absolutely loaded freshman class, and already two eighth graders on varsity. Despite their struggles this year I would say they are the favorite to win class A next year and they have the possibility of winning a state championship or two when their freshmen become juniors and seniors. They may have the best goalie in the country in two years, the kid is amazing. How often do you see an eighth grader start in net for the varsity team and stand on his head like he did last year. He will only get better and better. This is a team that has the possibility of replicating what Manhasset did these past two years. We shall see, hopefully arrogance and poor coaching doesn’t get in their way.
*This may be a down year in the A’s but it is a conference with a very bright future. It will be very competitive this year. The power conference really hurt their image this year but the playoffs will be very fun to watch.

B’s: Based on the results we have seen so far. There are two top teams and three in the conversation. I would say that it goes 1. South Side 2. Garden City and 3.Manhasset. I definitely think there is a general belief around Long Island and beyond that Garden City will come out on top and that loss to SouthSide was a fluke. That may be the case, but that championship game will be a fun one.
Garden City:
- I mean it is hard to say anything bad about the Garden City lacrosse programs. Lacrosse is built into the DNA and infrastructure of that town. They won the past two state championships and they have the possibility of doing it again. They do not rebuild, they reload. That being said, let's talk about this year’s team. The strength of their team is their defense as they have an All American defensemen, a star goalie, student defensive middies, and other good poles. They can absolutely shut the opposing team down and we have seen that for the most part this year. Their struggles come at the offensive side of the field. The lefty attackman can sling it and they have a very good middie that can score. However, they don’t have great options after the two and this is why they have dropped some games. It seems that they have shoved up some younger kids that are just not ready. The 8th grade lefty and the tall freshman midfielder are stars in the making, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t know if they are there quite yet. Garden City will need some production from some upperclassmen, other than their two main guys, if they hope to make it three states in a row. I personally think South Side will win this year but this is a team that will run class B across the state for the foreseeable future.
South Side:
- This is South Side’s year. They have a very balanced and loaded senior class. I mean they don’t have many weaknesses. The Fogo going to Cornell can absolutely take over a game. If he remains consistent in the playoffs and generates some offense for the Cyclones I don’t see them losing. They also have two student midfielders, a strong defense, and a goalie that many believe is the best on the island this year. If they all show up to play come May 24th, I think they will take down Garden City. However, based on the past year this seems to be a team that may come into games in an egotistical manner. This year it was the loss to Wantagh. Last season the only reason they lost to a Calhoun team, who had some very good players, was because they didn’t take them seriously. They were looking ahead to Garden City and this turned out to be a fatal mistake. A mistake which I doubt will happen again. Another weakness of this Cyclone team is the talent in their 25’ and 26’ classes. These are classes that got absolutely decimated by kids leaving for the Catholics. Chaminade’s junior midfielder going to Notre Dame and senior defensemen going to North Carolina come to mind. If they had these kids they would be unstoppable but they still should win Nassau this year. When it comes to the LIC’s the winner of the B’s will play an offensively loaded East Islip team and their offense may be too much for any team who plays them. However, if South Side continues to win faceoffs and take off the ball they have a strong chance of moving on to states. For the future, again this SouthSide program got emptied out by the Catholics. They lost all of their All-American caliber players in the 26’ and 25’ classes but have some very good freshmen. Don’t be surprised if you see 5 or so players in the 27’ class starting for them next year. Unfortunately for SS they most likely won’t win another championship soon as all their best 8th graders are leaving for the Catholics. Unless, they get paired with Wantagh in the C’s and then they could make some noise.
Manhasset:
- I think it was very well expected for Manhasset to have a fall off from their previous two years. I mean the 23' class was so special leading them to two state championships and almost an undefeated season a year ago. An undefeated season that was ought to be but the refs kind of handed their one loss to Chaminade. Some of the ref’s calls and the amazing performance by the Rockville Centre, Richmond bound senior attackmen was the difference in that one. I believe he had four of five goals. This year, they just don’t have the offensive stars they are so used to leaning on. I mean their offense has been abysmal this year despite having some solid talent. This may suggest that the coaches have an inability to adapt to a new style of play, a style which they must adapt sooner rather than later. Furthermore, they don't seem to have star caliber players in the next four or more classes. That being said they will need to get more creative if they hope to stand a chance against Garden City in the next four years. This is a team that I think will be worse next year, as well. They are graduating a majority of their defense which is the only reason they have been in and won some of the more competitive games this year. It will be interesting to see, it is rare to see a program like Manhasset struggle. They didn’t lose much talent to the Catholics either, so it is kind of intriguing. However, they would like to have St Anthony's fogo back right about now.
C/D:
Wantagh:
- This is a very talented team this year. They beat SS which was very impressive but got blown out by Garden CIty and lost to Pequa which suggests that that game was a fluke. Wantagh like SS is a well balanced team. They have a good goalie, a good fogo, and some very good offensive players. They will without a doubt win Nassau this year and have a very good chance against an undefeated BBP team. This seems like their year but it is interesting to see how much underclassmen contribution they have. Wantagh will return 5 out of 6 of their top offensive guys next year and are primed for another great season. They will easily win C for the next couple of seasons unless Manhasset and/or South Side gets moved down or CSH gets moved up. If none of that happens C will be a pathetically weak conference and the Power Conference games will mean more than the playoffs, that’s no good.
Cold Spring Harbor:
- CSH is like Set and GC as they always seem to be good. They always have great players and win a majority of their games. However, it is a joke that they are in the D conference. There is absolutely no competition in that conference and an automatic state championship each and every year that they are in it. I believe it is only a one game playoff, just the Nassau county championship before moving on to LICs. It is like the catholic league playoffs, such a joke. The power conference is the only thing making CSH’s season worthwhile. St Anthony’s vs Chaminade has a championship game which each are automatically in, there is no equity in playing regular season games under this model. Especially since St. A’s continues to own their little brother which is Chaminade lacrosse and will continue to do so for at least the next 3 or 4 years.
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Re: New 2024 Women’s DI-III Lacrosse Anonymous Yesterday at 09:26 PM
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Love seeing UVA knock out UNC from ACC tournament - well deserved. Tired of hearing that UNC is a "young tem" - they are far from a "yound team" - UVA freshmen stepping up big time. Hope to see a win against Cuse.

Not so much about being a young team. They are riddled with injuries and missing some of their top talent due to injuries. Actually, next years young guns coming in will make the team a better team. Plus, girls should be back from injuries. Next year they will be a force to be reckoned with.

UNC should make the Tournament so none of it really matters.

UNC is 10 - 6 with a current RPI of 18

They have two Quality Wins: Virginia (7 RPI) and Florida (19 RPI)

Five of their six losses are to Top 10 RPI teams:

Northwestern 1, Syracuse 5, Virginia 7, Boston College 8, Notre Dame 9

Their other loss was to Top 20 RPI: James Madison 17

This is the first year that I can think of that there are more than 3 or 4 teams that have a legit chance to win it all.

Maybe 10 teams with a chance.

Is UNC one of them? Doubtful but we will see.
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Re: Girls High School Anonymous Yesterday at 08:51 PM
Just heard rising Senior at GF may be leaving. Not looking good for them next year
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Re: Main Forum Philadelphia & Vicinity Anonymous Yesterday at 07:56 PM
I think Springfield should be high on the list, pal! This ain’t about that. The clown tried to be witty (didn’t work) the puts a list together w Marple and DEast on there…proving he has zero credibility.
Radnor and Springfield are legit, 100%
MN and DE are not good, sorry you are offended
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Re: Westchester NY Youth Lacrosse Anonymous Yesterday at 07:54 PM
Their FOGO was also an elite player otherwise. They lost basically 2 top kids when he graduated.
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Re: Boys 2031-5th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 07:34 PM
Odds for 5-11 dropping next week I heard. Vegas is waiting to see if schedules get tweaked.
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Re: Boys High School Anonymous Yesterday at 07:11 PM
Cool story. Don't let any facts get in the way.

Rubeor departure was made easier for him by the then Principal, who is now the head honcho at a Jesuit school up north. He started to meddle in the coaching aspect and Rubeor had no time for that. Same guy, who was really the de facto AD as the guy they had did nothing, hires his BL buddy Ubriaco. The only parents catered to were the ones whom played club for the rock head faceoff coach and buddies he went to BL and Loyola College with. He even had one on his staff. Parents didnt do Ubriaco in, he did himself in. Once a real AD was in place it wasn't hard to see what a mess he had made. Also no one went to bat for him at the school as he just wasn't liked.

There are a ton of people rooting for Coach Haus. The last thing the school needs is for the slimy alum restaurantor to have his way.
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Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
For sure there is a motive. Are the rosters accessible? Do the hawks coaches have the ability to pull rosters and check? Does anyone in the league stand up to that program?

In Hoco the roster check process is annoying (I believe $50 cash to the official before first whistle) and the vast majority of country club (or country club wanna be) club coaches consider roster checks "ungentlemanly" and won't do it, even when the players, parents, and coaches know there are violations with the other team. For instance, a 9th grade teacher in the stands for a 2028 game sees 2-3 of her (2027) students suiting up for the 2028 game.

If memory serves (disclaimer), only ML, VLC, and various True teams have been successfully roster checked (violations found) over the years the 2028s have been playing in Hoco. Everybody else operating on the fringe of the rule book has kind of skated by.

You get that $50 back if you're right:

PLAYER ELIGIBILITY
Any team rostering an ineligible player shall automatically forfeit each game in which the player participated
and/or appeared on the official roster. If a team uses a player under an assumed name, that team shall be
suspended from the league. Each game played with that player and all scheduled games not played shall be
forfeited to the opponents.
Protests as to the use of an ineligible player must be made within 48 hours of game time during the regular
season and within one hour of post-season play. A $50 protest fee is required. The protest must be submitted
in writing to the Conference Commissioner. The protest fee will be refunded if the protest is successful.
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Re: Boys 2029 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 03:30 PM
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What is more interesting:
a) That 91MD as a program has 3 wins against 20 loses so far this season; with an average loss by 8.7 goals (this is across all HoCo age groups); or...
b) That this marks 91MD's best metrics as a program over the past three years?

It's so interesting to me how much money Millon has been able to make on the back of this consistent business model.

One of biggest reason MM focused on his sons teams and them. Gotta give MM credit, one of the more disliked people in lacrosse community, yet had his son as the number 1 recruit, talked about constantly and now starting at UVA all the while making a pile of money off the dreamers of lacrosse who fall by the wayside thinking they will end up like his son. .

I can't even begin to tell you HOW SPOT ON THIS IS - HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Then they should all holdback like his son did.
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Re: Long Island Jesters Anonymous Yesterday at 03:28 PM
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For sure! The player is what is recruited, not the club (or at least that's what we hope!). I'm just trying to understand what kind of support there is for players who opt to go through the process, and the experience of the club to support players through it.

Should be an easy question to answer for anyone in that organization. I feel for you, like pulling teeth sometimes getting a straight answer.
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Re: Girls 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 29s get invited to play in the All LI game 48?

Last year was 48 ish I believe, this year is around 106 players is what I counted.
Event has lost all merit and is now solely about bringing in the $$$$.

this event absolutely never had any merit

Agreed. I assume Wink got complaints about almost all the girls being on 91 or YJ A and decided to make two more teams. Cha - ching.
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Re: Girls 2029 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 02:42 PM
Do you mean that they are adding players from other teams for certain games? I only ask because I’ve watched them play a few times and one time in particular they looked like a much different team than I saw playing the week before the players even look different.
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Re: MD Girls 2028 Anonymous Yesterday at 02:38 PM
1. Location is horrible for the majority of teams.
2. No parking. And it is one way in and out, making it take forever to exit/enter
3. Due to lack of parking, you have to find a strip of grass to park on 1/2 mile down the road
4. No room for spectators
5. No room for tents
6. Outhouses are minimal and in terrible locations. In front of a narrow sidewalk in the parking lot?
7. Can't tell where the lines are on the field.


Agree the amount of fields are nice. But that's the only thing it has going for it. Can't imagine a tournament there. I hope NGLL takes all these issues into consideration for next year. But I'm guessing they got a sweetheart deal to use Copperplex as their primary location.
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Re: Boys 2031 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 12:10 PM
you are in playoff form already
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Re: New England Prep School Lacrosse Anonymous Yesterday at 10:27 AM
Most of the founders league is made up of double holdbacks so I’d assume they start recruiting as the boys near HS graduation
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