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PENNSYLVANIA FORUM Jump to new posts
Re: Main Forum Philadelphia & Vicinity Anonymous 2 hours ago
NLF is the truth. Birddogs took 2nd at the National Championship last year. A few upgrades during tryout season and they are back in the hunt for THE Chip.
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MARYLAND FORUM Jump to new posts
Re: Boys 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 07:24 PM
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Re: Girls 2029 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 04:35 PM
I saw the IG post about the first waves of ua150 but has best in class posted anything yet? I know a few girls that have had offers, there just doesn’t appear to be a public list.
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Re: Boys 2028-8th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the top freshman commits to the top ten D1 schools. I think you will see most are holdbacks at some point!? Extra year or two of development does give those guys an edge. Especially starting in middle school or younger as a holdback. It’s an elitist sport
And favors those that can play the extra year(s) of development card! They get recruited and the college coaches could care less about it and just want to win!

I don’t like it, but it is facts in this sport. Others too, like hockey. Biggest problem for me is it’s not fair to those who can’t afford to play by those rules and get extra years! It favors the deep pockets and it gives those kids extra advantages in the sport. Life is a different story! We are talking about recruiting and playing lacrosse at a top D1 program.

Top D1 program? You're talking to a few dozen kids a year. That covo likely doesnt apply to anyone posting here. The huge majority of kids are going to mid and bad D1 schools and D2s/D3s. Still quite the accomplishment. It's still really good lacrosse.

The good news to worried parents- your drinking buddies at the country club don't really know what they are talking about and have already missed the boat. Recruiting just ain't like it used to be, even 10 years ago.

Those Top D1 spots just ain't available like they used to be. The smart kids are the ones who take the recruiting spots they are offered at any level, and then hit the portal after getting some college film. It's now quite common for kids to transfer from low D1 and top 20 D3 schools to very good D1 programs. Happens a lot, in fact.
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BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Jump to new posts
Re: Boys 2032-4th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 01:11 PM
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Anyone here join a "national" team? What's the difference between that and a club team?
The national team is for the parents ego and no development. The club team is supposed to be for the kids and development. But to each their own


My older son has played a “national team” and had a great experience. We didn’t take it too seriously, he met some great kids from other regions and we had a good time with the parents. Yes, there was a cost to it but overall the experience itself was actually pretty good. I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again.
Sounds like poster above is correct. You wouldn’t hesitate to do it again, but what about your son? Did he get better at lacrosse or did you pay for him to have friends? Have a look at 90 % of the scores from all age group's and tell me how that’s good lacrosse.


It’s not. The Red Hots and Nationals LC are good for Instagram. They basically play rec level teams at most of the tournaments and have double digit wins. But hey, those behind the back passes and goals are great for Instagram.
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Re: MD Girls 2028 Anonymous Yesterday at 12:17 PM
Been going out since August.[/quote]

I’m sure there is a few around but most of the invites went out in August and not many since.[/quote]

Where is everyone finding the numbers on BIC? Is it published somewhere?[/quote]
The numbers aren’t public. Once your daughter is registered you can view her position roster in Leagueapps.
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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous
Correct. The good players play up a class or two, not down against younger kids.

My 27 has had a ton of looks already, because I've been playing him up as a 26 and he's been dominating all these reclassed underperformers.
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Re: Boys 2031-5th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
I love these MD dads coming to this board trying to taunt LI dads.

These boys are 11. Calm down.
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Re: Boys High School Anonymous
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People forget the choke job McD did repeatedly from 2018-2021.

Before Loyola took the crown, McD was the poster child for doing the least with the most talent.

If only the Millions and Co would have gone to Gilman, then Loyola wouldnt look so bad .

Loyola will be fine …… in two years all the problems will
resolved by graduation and bringing in the right type
of families. The downhill started when a few families
decided to send their “ golden boys” to Loyola.
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Re: Boys 2026-10th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
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Son attended a DI prospect camp in Philadelphia this month, he already attended three different DI prospect camps last year (2 upstate NY and 1 just outside of Philadelphia), so we do have some experience.
Won't name the School, but the program has 3 scheduled (Sept. Oct & Dec) camps. Compared to our other experiences, this Head Coach was barely involved. He just watched the games from the sidelines while his
attention was divided between the games and his phone.

There was NO interaction with the players during the games. Again, this was completely different from other camps we attended. At least the other program's camps, the Head coach was on the field, directing the games, gave the appearance that the coach was actually evaluating the players.

OK, camp is over and there is nothing; Time to move on. Which is fine.

But, to add insult to injury, we just received an email from the staff encouraging our son to attend one of their remaining, upcoming camps (Oct/Dec). This just reinforces my assessment that this program is conducting their multiple camps, SOLEY as a money grab.

The school is very clearly Villanova...

Geopraphy challeged, hmm. Even though this is a LI, CT and West Chester forum, I'll guess that you are from LI.
Villanova is OUTSIDE Philadelphia.
UPenn and StJ are located in Philadelphia.

Thanks. Just got you to narrow it down to Penn and StJ. Don't know why you didn't just put the program name in your initial post but whatever. Good luck to you and your son.

You forgot Drexel. And a lot of people say "Philadelphia" to mean anywhere in eastern PA.
NO 1000% Villanova. Did their prospect day with my 2024 and I was amazed at how little the coach even looked at play. Granted it was a giant s show. The guy didnt even have a clip board. It was clear as day, you paid money to be on their field for some stick work. Captains practices at my sons HS have more organization.....only value of the day was seeing how bad the Nova lacrosse facilities are which did align with the way the Prospect Day was sun which allowed us to rule out Nova very quickly.


It's definitely Nova. Did it with my 2025 and even after he committed to a different Big East school he still gets at least one email a week inviting him to an upcoming Nova fundraiser to pay for assistant coaches.

NOVA is a PURE money grab. Many are, but at least they try to act a tiny bit they arent. NOVA, pay and pay and pay some more.
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BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Jump to new posts
Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
NJ team but yes age aggressive
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Re: Boys 2030-6th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain how the LWSC qualifiers work in terms of moving on? How well do you have to do to advance our of your region?

Depends how many teams enter in each qualifier. Not many enter from west or south. In the north and east regionals, roughly half the teams qualified last year.
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MARYLAND FORUM Jump to new posts
Re: Girls High School Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Coach Reese still coaching the team at Maryvale. Wonder how transfer rules would apply for his daughter if he switched schools?

Why do you have a sibling that will take their place ? or just jealous
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BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Jump to new posts
Re: Girls 2030-6th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
Just a guess but she is responding to the post before.
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Re: 2024, Westchester NY/Fairfield CT Youth Lacrosse Anonymous
Noticed on X, the Hudson valley lacrosse officials assocation (hvloa) is conducting classes to become an official on:
October 30, Nov. 6,12,13 and 20.
Classes are at Pleasantville HS 7PM-8PM.

This is very unusual, classes are typically in Jan/Feb, prior to the season.

Kudos to them for trying to recruit more candidates.
Each of the past spring seasons, games were canceled due to the shortage.

email John Kress; jk490569@gmail.com for additional info.
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MARYLAND FORUM Jump to new posts
Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That would make sense but it was same message on many pages including 2034 page. If all posts are moderated and approved how does that nonsense make it through?

Because AI is doing the moderating?
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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse Anonymous
2024 Division 1 Recruits according to Laxnumbers as of 9/30: 307
Recruits from NLF teams: 103
Recruits from ALL teams: 101
Recruits to top 25 Teams using top 25 from NCAA final standings last Season
Notre Dame (NLF 7, ALL 1)
Duke (NLF 4, ALL 5)
Marlyland (NLF 4, ALL 5)
Virginia (NLF 8, ALL 2)
Syracuse (NLF 4, ALL 4)
Hopkins (NLF 6, ALL 1)
Denver (NLF 0, ALL 1)
Georgetown (NLF 2, ALL 5)
Penn St (NLF 3, ALL 2)
Princeton (NLF 1, ALL 6)
Cornell (NLF 2, ALL 2)
UPenn (NLF 2, ALL 4)
Yale (NLF 4, ALL 3)
Michigan (NLF 6, ALL 3)
St. Joe’s (NLF 0, ALL 2)
Army (NLF 2, ALL 8)
Towson (NLF 1, ALL 2)
Boston U (NLF 3, ALL 2)
Villanova (NLF 3, ALL 3)
Harvard (NLF 4, ALL 2)
Ohio St (NLF 4, ALL 4)
Lehigh (NLF 3, ALL 1)
UNC (NLF 7, ALL 3)
Utah (NLF 2, ALL 2)
Richmond (NLF 2, ALL 1)
Total NLF to top 25: 84
Total ALL to top 25: 74
For the Long Island people: 7 Division 1 recruits from non-NLF teams, making up 2% of overall D1 commitments so far.
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Re: Girls 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
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Curious if anyone knows why Jesters don't go to the tournaments where most other LI teams go to?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious if anyone knows why Jesters don't go to the tournaments where most other LI teams go to?

Think one of the benefits of their merger with Liberty is access to larger and higher profile tournaments (for both clubs). From our understanding and what was explained to us, there is a curriculum that is being followed and you’ll start to see these tournaments phase in as they get older. For example, you’ll notice that the 7th grade Black level teams are headed deep into Maryland this year (and skipping the fall live love lax and lax for the cure) to play with the top level Maryland and DMV teams (Chesapeake and mid Atlantic).

Doesn't quite explain it since Jesters didn't need Liberty (or the other way around). Your message seemed to imply that Chesapeake and MidAtlantic is better tourneys than live love lax and lax for the cure, which I'm not sure. Is that really? Is it the reason they chose different tournaments? Really curious why they picked different tourneys. More alliance with the organizers as opposed to YJ with livelovalax and lax for the cure?
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Re: Boys 2034 Grads - Mid-Atlantic Region Anonymous
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Re: Boys 2025-11th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
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Speaking of late bloomers. I’m a Dad of a middle school boy. Wondering if any Dads of the 2025 class regret not reclassing their kid in 8th grade after seeing the 2026’s get recruited now? Did it work for all of the former 2025’s who reclassed to 2026? Did staying on grade work out for your kid?

In 2025 class locally had fewer holdbacks if I remember it correctly. but for 2026 the No 1 recruit is a reclass and No 2 is not... different strokes for different folks I suppose. CoachC has 6 of his 26 players in the top 100 and 3 are holdbacks and 3 are not. But it's safe to say the held back kids did better than they would have on grade. You have to decide for yourself if it's worth it. My 2025 son is going solid D1 and flat out refused when offered as a 26.

There were almost no 2025 holdbacks on the island. It seems like something that is happening more and more though.

My son laughed in my face when I suggested he add another year of high school. He got a solid D1 scholarship too.

What ??? No Holdbacks more and more.. LOL... Come on, that is so 1980's. The truth is that holdbacks are a big part of lacrosse recruits . Even on the Island. It started gaining steam around 10 years ago and has been getting bigger every year. I do think it getting to a plateau now as portal and new rules have done a number on recruiting.

Look at the top rated college lacrosse players now. JS fur example. How many of them were actually on age when they were recruited? The holdbacks had an advantage if a couple more years of development! College's do not care about age they just want to win! They love holdbacks

Except some coaches are realizing that the juniors they recruited/offered only looked good because they were playing against kids a year or two younger than them. They get to campus and don't have that advantage anymore.

JS and his age were jokes his entire career. Everyone knew he was older. He's the exception in that he's actually a great player.

You answered your question. Yes, JS is a great player. That is due to extra years playing and always getting playing time on better teams. If JS wasnt a holdback, he would still be a good player, just not a great player, and may not even see field due to some other bigger stronger holdback ahead of him.

Being a Holdback works, of course it doesnt for some. But if you want the odds, Hold them back,,,
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Re: Girls 2032-4th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous
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