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Re: Girls High School Lax
Anonymous #333617 06/10/21 03:26 PM
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Everyone that is here whining that Sect XI should've done a better job and is screwing these girls...... What would you have done differently?

Started season earlier? (Then you would've complained that it overlapped with the "Fall" season)
Played less games? (Then you'd complain that the girls are getting shorted)
Move the games only to weekdays so it rolls into Finals? (Which would never happen, but if it did, you'd complain that the girls don't have time to study)

You see what I'm getting at here? You're only here to whine about something.
Guess what....Sect XI doesn't care about recruiting and the overlap with the club season. Wasting your breathe complaining about it

They absolutely should have kept the games on weekdays. Only class A is on the weekend. So it absolutely could have been done.

Didn't anyone see JS Instagram post telling players college coaches would value kids staying home for playoffs more than leaving your HS team?

Of course he said that. He has a son that's already committed that needs his teammates at the game.

There is not a college coach in the world who would agree with leaving your HS team during playoffs to go to a club tournament.

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Anonymous #333623 06/10/21 04:25 PM
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

The tournament directors schedule their tournaments around the recruiting calendar. The rest of the country has figured out how to wrap up their lacrosse seasons before recruiting season starts. Figure it out. The IAAM in MD played a 13 game regular season and had full playoffs and finished a month ago.

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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

BINGO. Sorry but tournaments are almost always the same weekends every year. The big ones coordinate with each other - thinkLax, Top of the Bay, STEPs, etc. They are not going to cater to a few regions that decided to have playoffs in the middle of June.

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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

BINGO. Sorry but tournaments are almost always the same weekends every year. The big ones coordinate with each other - thinkLax, Top of the Bay, STEPs, etc. They are not going to cater to a few regions that decided to have playoffs in the middle of June.
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

BINGO. Sorry but tournaments are almost always the same weekends every year. The big ones coordinate with each other - thinkLax, Top of the Bay, STEPs, etc. They are not going to cater to a few regions that decided to have playoffs in the middle of June.

It’s Unfortunate for the LI uncommitted 22s and 23s to have to miss the tournaments! They have had a lost year and I’m sure they are looking to get out and get some live exposure. Film only goes so far.

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Anonymous #333648 06/11/21 01:12 AM
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So a 22 or 23 club player hoping to play lacrosse in college should forego an opportunity (or two) to be seen and recruited by attending college coaches (after NOT being seen in person for over a year due to “quiet period”). They should forego their dream of playing college lacrosse for a playoff game or two with their high school team. This is after sometimes 8-10 years of being committed to playing club lacrosse and working towards this goal. And what if enough of these HS players choose the same option and their club team doesn’t have enough players to compete and therefore 15+ girls lose their opportunity to be seen by college coaches? Who is really the selfish one in this case!?

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I don’t think anyone belittling HS experience? I think Some girls just feeling a little desperate to get out there for recruiting stuff, due to the lost year. The committed girls, it’s not going to affect. It’s the uncommitted who feel pressure. With that said - The girls I know, both Committed and uncommitted would always choose HS ball over anything else

If your HSTeam is still playing in the playoffs players should not be competing in tournaments. It’s selfish to do so. The player is risking injury or simply being fatigued / not 100% physically ready to compete.

Completely disagree! HS playoff game will not make a difference in a recruit’s life. Even for those players on a team in a top high school conference in the country. Missing being seen by a college coach when so many circumstances have already gone against a 2022 recruit’s chance of being recruited can be the difference in playing college lacrosse or not. Coaches want to see these players in person. They have been watching film for over a year!

Odds of a HS player making a college varsity roster 2020 (females only):
# US HS Lax Players - 106,162
# of College Lax Players (D1, D2, D3, NAIA, NJCAA) - 13,908
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at any college level - 12.7%
% of US HS Lacrosse competing at NCAA D1 schools - 3.5%
Odds of a US HS Lax player making any college roster - 8:1
Odds of a US HS Lax player making an NCAA D1 roster - 28:1
(Data from [ChillLaxin])[/quote]

Those numbers are not relevant for Long Island.[/quote]

Of course they are. Long Island was in the US the last I saw 🤣 contrary to what many in this forum may believe, LI and Maryland girls no longer rule the college rosters like they used to. Many recruits now pulling from additional hot spots in the country now! Lots more competition - especially in the 22 class where many girls in these additional hot spots too have been playing club level lax since 4th grade. Having daughters that were 2016, 2018 and 2022 recruits I can tell you from experience that the landscape for my 22 is much more competitive than it ever was for my other girls who went fairly high level D1. My youngest is committed but I feel sorry for quite a few of her club teammates who are hoping the next several tournaments lock in a roster spot for them. The fact they now have to miss for a high school playoff game is not fair - especially after the rough recruiting season they have already endured. Def less roster spots avail on college teams than I saw with my older two!

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Anonymous #333653 06/11/21 07:19 AM
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

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Anonymous #333665 06/11/21 09:14 AM
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Section XI acted with blatant disregard to the athletes. Shame on them for being so ignorant. Life will go on, but they could have and should have done a better job.

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Anonymous #333667 06/11/21 09:29 AM
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

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Best matchups of the weekend? Nassau or Suffolk.

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Anonymous #333670 06/11/21 10:02 AM
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Actually, they (the decision makers) are responsible. Bureaucrats should give carful consideration to the impact their decisions will have on the people they (the bureaucrats) serve. What is in the "best interest" of the players should be at the forefront of the decision making process. Too many School Board members, Administrators, Union Delegates, Teachers, Coaches etc... do not understand that.

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Anonymous #333684 06/11/21 11:09 AM
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Correct me if I’m wrong wasn’t the decision to remove the coaches blackout decided long after the High School sports calendars were completed. How could anyone plan around a decision that had not been made. Go perform well at out of state tournaments when you have the opportunity , and stop being a victim your whole life.

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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Correct me if I’m wrong wasn’t the decision to remove the coaches blackout decided long after the High School sports calendars were completed. How could anyone plan around a decision that had not been made. Go perform well at out of state tournaments when you have the opportunity , and stop being a victim your whole life.

I will correct you because you are missing the point and acting like an arrogant. These tournaments happen at the same time every year. Regardless of whether the coaches could attend in person, or watch the film, they are critical in the recruiting process. I will also remind you that these spring athletes lost their ENTIRE season last year, whereas the other seasons did not. The bottom line, Section XI should not have scheduled playoff games on the weekend. It was not in the best interest of the athletes they serve.

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Anonymous #333701 06/11/21 01:03 PM
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The problem isn’t section xi scheduling playoff games on a weekend. The problem is the tournament directors holding their tournaments while players are still in their school season. They should have taken that into account when scheduling their tournament.

Ummm...you must be new. These tournaments DO NOT cater to LI public schools. This is why we should demand our section XI leaders do better for the athletes. These tournaments are scheduled at the same time every year, and host teams from all over the country. They should be aware of this....it's their job!

Sorry, Sect XI job is not to make sure your kid is able to get to non-school sanctioned sporting events, especially private out of state competitions. Your whining about something Sect XI is not responsible for, so keep banging your head against the wall and let me know if it changes.

Best response I've read on here in a while - couldn't agree more (that Sect XI is NOT responsible).

Correct me if I’m wrong wasn’t the decision to remove the coaches blackout decided long after the High School sports calendars were completed. How could anyone plan around a decision that had not been made. Go perform well at out of state tournaments when you have the opportunity , and stop being a victim your whole life.

I will correct you because you are missing the point and acting like an arrogant. These tournaments happen at the same time every year. Regardless of whether the coaches could attend in person, or watch the film, they are critical in the recruiting process. I will also remind you that these spring athletes lost their ENTIRE season last year, whereas the other seasons did not. The bottom line, Section XI should not have scheduled playoff games on the weekend. It was not in the best interest of the athletes they serve.

Agree, and Very Well Said! The circumstances this year were very different and needed to be taken into consideration.

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