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#207714 - 03/05/17 03:10 PM A bit overwhelming.  
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Good afternoon, this is my first post and my real first experience with travel lacrosse. I know I am late to the party but was thinking about next season. I have a son presently in 3rd grade playing in our local travel team. I am happy with the program but feel he needs more. I am interested in him joining one of the other travel programs in existence on long island. I guess my choices are, Long Island Express, Team Igloo, Team 91, fl$ & Team recon. I think there are more and would certainly like to know about all of them as to see what would be a good fit for my son. Our family lives in Nassau County. After reading posts for the last few hours i have noticed that people have opinions about all of the programs. Some bad and some good. I have also noticed that programs fluctuate form year to year. Having a very strong team one year and a weak team the following. My son is getting into it. A year ago I would've said he was one of the bottom level players but worked his butt off this past summer & winter participating in clinics. Now I would say he is the middle of the pack of a completive program. Having personally grown up with travels sports myself i am aware of the BS that permeates any program. I guess my question is what programs are there? Does anyone have a no BS assessment of any program? Any recommendations? You can send me a private message so as not to be bashed by other members. I just want to join a program where my son learns and improves. My desire to figure the best fit for my son is what matters too me. I know wins and losses are also a good thing BUT would rather have him play than me feeding my ego on making an ELITE team. Thank you in advance for your help!

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#207730 - 03/05/17 05:29 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Lancerussell]  

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My advice is more important than the program he is in, is the coach of the team. Try to find out who coaches,maybe you know people who have kids on the team, who played for that coach. If not, try to find people who did. The coach means everthing. I don't care so much what the coach did 20 years ago as a player. I care more than anything else, is he committed. If he coaches a lot of other teams, does he have time and motivation to coach my sons team. Some coaches care so much, some go through the motions. My son has had both. This is a lot of money these days, plus there is always additional fees and this BS fee or that BS fee. Tons of fees. Plus a lot of those summer weekends that you would do family trips are now going to be lacrosse weekends. It could be tough on kids and siblings who don't play, spending hours on lacrosse fields. Like anything its a business. If you get the right committed guy coaching your kid, it could be a great expierience, worth the money and time. Good luck to you and your son.

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#207758 - 03/05/17 09:23 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Anonymous]  

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the best kids will always find a place in college. don't believe the and pay into the snack oil salesmen. Your kid was probably born with 85% of his ability. No money or club in the world is going to make him michael jordan

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#207766 - 03/06/17 12:29 AM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Lancerussell]  
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Thank you everyone for your replies. This travel lacrosse thing is not for the faint in heart. I believe in my son that he will get better, I am not looking for the next Rabil or Pannell but rather a person who takes away travel sports as an education like I did. Growing up I had three maybe four programs to choose from. Now with social media you can spend almost a day reading about programs and still not have a clue where to go. I think you are correct it is all about coaching. I know most teams have been selected. He is in only third grade and i notice some kids on my sons team are proficient and knowledgable about the game. My son is enjoying it but still learning. I feel by the end of the spring I will have a better idea on which way to go. Once again thank you!

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#207975 - 03/07/17 10:55 AM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Lancerussell]  

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This summer is more or less set for most teams.. Definately spots still available but not s open as next fall for next summer's teams. Spend a few weekends going to a few local tournaments. Talk to parents and watch a few games. Especially if you are interested in only a few programs. Seeing the coach and seeing the poarents in action will be more informative than anything anyone will say about one program or another. Good luck

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#207999 - 03/07/17 01:25 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Lancerussell]  

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In this age group go play for 9d1. 9d1 himself has a kid in that age group and he is coaching our boys up. it is inexpensive considering the level of activity and the guy is GREAT with the little ones. That is my recommendation.

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#208006 - 03/07/17 02:06 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Lancerussell]  

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Wait until at least 7th grade before joining a serious travel program. None of them will make your son demonstrably better. Better off with private/group training.

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9 D 1 owner has a kid in 2nd grade not 3rd

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#208092 - 03/08/17 12:14 AM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
9 D 1 owner has a kid in 2nd grade not 3rd


You are right i didn't read the original posters grade correctly.

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#208109 - 03/08/17 09:04 AM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait until at least 7th grade before joining a serious travel program. None of them will make your son demonstrably better. Better off with private/group training.


Honestly, it's extremely difficult to break onto a quality team in 6th grade or above. Almost impossible. I don't care how good he is, there will most likely be someone just as good, or at least close enough, that it's not worth replacing a kid who the coaches know, and who knows the offense/defense with a relative unknown. That's the reality.

If you want to get onto one of the top 5 teams, you need to do it ASAP or it's just not going to happen.

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#208222 - 03/08/17 06:42 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Lancerussell]  
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Well, I am going to take my time. My son has skills but needs to learn the game. I don't think placing him on an elite team and riding the bench is going to help. He needs some confidence. After a week of researching and asking some friends there opinions I am leaning towards Team Recon. If he starts to hit his stride and if it takes a year or two I will see where we are at. Like professional sport teams there is fluctuations and what is an "elite" team today might be middle of the pack in a year or two. Not hoping for that of course. Lacrosse is growing especially on Long Island. I just want to see my son play and improve. If anyone has an opinion please let me know what you think. Thank you everyone for your help.

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#208233 - 03/08/17 08:32 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait until at least 7th grade before joining a serious travel program. None of them will make your son demonstrably better. Better off with private/group training.



You present this as if it is your choice when you decide to join a "serious" team. The problem with ur current environment is that teams turnover 5-6 kids a year and have 40 kids tryout for those spots. By 7th grade its worse.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wait until at least 7th grade before joining a serious travel program. None of them will make your son demonstrably better. Better off with private/group training.



You present this as if it is your choice when you decide to join a "serious" team. The problem with ur current environment is that teams turnover 5-6 kids a year and have 40 kids tryout for those spots. By 7th grade its worse.


It is your choice. If your kid is good enough he will make the team.

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#208321 - 03/09/17 02:50 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Lancerussell]  

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Originally Posted by Jjmmagoo
Well, I am going to take my time. My son has skills but needs to learn the game. I don't think placing him on an elite team and riding the bench is going to help. He needs some confidence. After a week of researching and asking some friends there opinions I am leaning towards Team Recon. If he starts to hit his stride and if it takes a year or two I will see where we are at. Like professional sport teams there is fluctuations and what is an "elite" team today might be middle of the pack in a year or two. Not hoping for that of course. Lacrosse is growing especially on Long Island. I just want to see my son play and improve. If anyone has an opinion please let me know what you think. Thank you everyone for your help.


Recon is about the only program I am aware of who has open spots AND has announced same so that they could fill those spots. I suspect there are other programs that might have holes, but they don't seem to be overtly trying to fill them based upon the lack of communication. Recon's program is not bad - they try to instill the right values in the boys and teach the game - they may not usually break into the top tier talent wise for a full roster, but they've got some decent or better players here and there.

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#208348 - 03/09/17 06:05 PM Re: A bit overwhelming. [Re: Anonymous]  
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Originally Posted by Jjmmagoo
Well, I am going to take my time. My son has skills but needs to learn the game. I don't think placing him on an elite team and riding the bench is going to help. He needs some confidence. After a week of researching and asking some friends there opinions I am leaning towards Team Recon. If he starts to hit his stride and if it takes a year or two I will see where we are at. Like professional sport teams there is fluctuations and what is an "elite" team today might be middle of the pack in a year or two. Not hoping for that of course. Lacrosse is growing especially on Long Island. I just want to see my son play and improve. If anyone has an opinion please let me know what you think. Thank you everyone for your help.


Recon is about the only program I am aware of who has open spots AND has announced same so that they could fill those spots. I suspect there are other programs that might have holes, but they don't seem to be overtly trying to fill them based upon the lack of communication. Recon's program is not bad - they try to instill the right values in the boys and teach the game - they may not usually break into the top tier talent wise for a full roster, but they've got some decent or better players here and there.





Pretty much what I am looking for. I think the other organizations are out of our league right now. I want him to learn the game. Have fun. I have heard wonderful things about all the programs. Also heard some negative things. This is our first travel team not including our local squad. So we shall see. I dont want him turned off. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction. Thank you for your insight!

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