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Re: 2016 Women's College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #166581 05/24/16 09:38 AM
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If the bigger stronger girl can't run like the wind then I will take a less big, less strong girl with speed. Too much plodding and hacking in todays game. No can argue that the game isn't slower today then it used to be.

No one is saying they aren't incredible athletes but for the people arguing that since the girls are "ripped" they are better players is just silly.

Training in the gym non stop and having natural athleticism on the field are two different things


You honestly sound clueless. The players today are faster than they used to be its just that the defenders have become equally fast and athletic. Used to be that if you were not fast or skilled enough you play defense not so much now. The coaches want to win so if in their experience training in the gym equates into being better players they will do it.


Talk about sounding clueless. Good coaches do not put slow players on defense. Attack is the only position where you can get away with being slow . IQ and good skill can allow a player to excel on Attack with limited speed / quickness . Maybe bad HS and youth coaches put less athletic kids on D but good coaches know the importance of Defense and how difficult it is to play.


Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding. Yes todays defenders are ultra athletic which is exactly the point .Watched many a girls lacrosse game in the late 90's and the defensive players were not as athletic, especially when compared to the middies.

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Re: 2016 Women's College Lacrosse Season
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You can bet if it was a disadvantage, she would have fixed it...Why the need for a ruler if it was the screw being illegal?


And there is no equipment kit with screws? Is it like the nerd with tape on his/her glasses?



all the stick challenges and violations was just part of the problem to me. I though the game stunk. lots of standing, horrible zone defense, not an entertaining game at all. the game is less fun every time I watch seems like. maybe its just me..


Game is broken no doubt. Not fun to watch, slower every day, more choppy. Hopefully the speed picks up with the shot clock and its not just a excuse for certain people to pad stats even more. TEAM GAME!!!!!


I think the shot clock is going to create an even more messy game than we have now. It is a 90 second possession clock; a good ride is going to give teams little time to set up a good offensive look. Result is going to be a lot of crashing to the goal, ill advised shots and turnovers. I've seen trial games with quality players and it is a messy affair. There will be times that the offense will dump the ball past the end line if they can't get a shot off just to let the opposition have an entire field to clear. It's messy.

How about doing away with face guarding? I just love watching a team's best player watch the game from near the sideline.



correct on all counts. the whole notion of shooting space works directly against a shot clock. the fact that theres 10 seconds left doesn't magically mean you have a any type of lane to the goal.. its a joke.

better idea would be ban the zone, make the restraining line higher, and how about 6 in the zone instead of 7?? these girls are all bulked up from deadlifts,squats and benching and there's no room for any offense at all. great players like Traynor can barely get a shot off. its horrible to watch..

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Anonymous #166718 05/24/16 09:27 PM
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You can bet if it was a disadvantage, she would have fixed it...Why the need for a ruler if it was the screw being illegal?


And there is no equipment kit with screws? Is it like the nerd with tape on his/her glasses?



all the stick challenges and violations was just part of the problem to me. I though the game stunk. lots of standing, horrible zone defense, not an entertaining game at all. the game is less fun every time I watch seems like. maybe its just me..


Game is broken no doubt. Not fun to watch, slower every day, more choppy. Hopefully the speed picks up with the shot clock and its not just a excuse for certain people to pad stats even more. TEAM GAME!!!!!


I think the shot clock is going to create an even more messy game than we have now. It is a 90 second possession clock; a good ride is going to give teams little time to set up a good offensive look. Result is going to be a lot of crashing to the goal, ill advised shots and turnovers. I've seen trial games with quality players and it is a messy affair. There will be times that the offense will dump the ball past the end line if they can't get a shot off just to let the opposition have an entire field to clear. It's messy.

How about doing away with face guarding? I just love watching a team's best player watch the game from near the sideline.



correct on all counts. the whole notion of shooting space works directly against a shot clock. the fact that theres 10 seconds left doesn't magically mean you have a any type of lane to the goal.. its a joke.

better idea would be ban the zone, make the restraining line higher, and how about 6 in the zone instead of 7?? these girls are all bulked up from deadlifts,squats and benching and there's no room for any offense at all. great players like Traynor can barely get a shot off. its horrible to watch..


I like the game the way it is. The shot clock will help because it will eliminate the stall. I could care less that Traynor can barely get a shot off. Welcome to the world of competition. The defense caught up.

Re: 2016 Women's College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #166722 05/24/16 10:46 PM
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If the bigger stronger girl can't run like the wind then I will take a less big, less strong girl with speed. Too much plodding and hacking in todays game. No can argue that the game isn't slower today then it used to be.

No one is saying they aren't incredible athletes but for the people arguing that since the girls are "ripped" they are better players is just silly.

Training in the gym non stop and having natural athleticism on the field are two different things


You honestly sound clueless. The players today are faster than they used to be its just that the defenders have become equally fast and athletic. Used to be that if you were not fast or skilled enough you play defense not so much now. The coaches want to win so if in their experience training in the gym equates into being better players they will do it.


Talk about sounding clueless. Good coaches do not put slow players on defense. Attack is the only position where you can get away with being slow . IQ and good skill can allow a player to excel on Attack with limited speed / quickness . Maybe bad HS and youth coaches put less athletic kids on D but good coaches know the importance of Defense and how difficult it is to play.


Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding. Yes todays defenders are ultra athletic which is exactly the point .Watched many a girls lacrosse game in the late 90's and the defensive players were not as athletic, especially when compared to the middies.


thanks Professor. he's gonna struggle on the SAT reading comp section huh? defense hasn't been fun to watch since the 85 Bears. the game is ugly- muscles, clutching, cross-checking and hacking are just dismal to watch. wrestling is never take seriously.

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Your obsession with women with muscles is creepy. Very creepy. The genie is out of the bottle, women will never again be the little China dolls you are so fond of.

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"You guys can argue about muscles but the game is a joke. Other sports are laughing at us unless you are a lifelong lacrosse insider and apologist. I just want the game faster and cleaner and played as a team and if that means going to a foul progression system lets do it. Get the hackers out of the game, lets open it and make the game great again" Donald J Trump

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Your obsession with women with muscles is creepy. Very creepy. The genie is out of the bottle, women will never again be the little China dolls you are so fond of.


Now that is funny. He is creepy.

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You can bet if it was a disadvantage, she would have fixed it...Why the need for a ruler if it was the screw being illegal?


And there is no equipment kit with screws? Is it like the nerd with tape on his/her glasses?



all the stick challenges and violations was just part of the problem to me. I though the game stunk. lots of standing, horrible zone defense, not an entertaining game at all. the game is less fun every time I watch seems like. maybe its just me..


Game is broken no doubt. Not fun to watch, slower every day, more choppy. Hopefully the speed picks up with the shot clock and its not just a excuse for certain people to pad stats even more. TEAM GAME!!!!!


I think the shot clock is going to create an even more messy game than we have now. It is a 90 second possession clock; a good ride is going to give teams little time to set up a good offensive look. Result is going to be a lot of crashing to the goal, ill advised shots and turnovers. I've seen trial games with quality players and it is a messy affair. There will be times that the offense will dump the ball past the end line if they can't get a shot off just to let the opposition have an entire field to clear. It's messy.

How about doing away with face guarding? I just love watching a team's best player watch the game from near the sideline.



correct on all counts. the whole notion of shooting space works directly against a shot clock. the fact that theres 10 seconds left doesn't magically mean you have a any type of lane to the goal.. its a joke.

better idea would be ban the zone, make the restraining line higher, and how about 6 in the zone instead of 7?? these girls are all bulked up from deadlifts,squats and benching and there's no room for any offense at all. great players like Traynor can barely get a shot off. its horrible to watch..
Banning an entire defensive scheme, cutting out 2 players, or making the restraining lines further away are all ridiculous ideas. How will any of that help the game? They need to go to a progressive foul system because that will stop the unnecessary hacking used to stop momentum, coaches and players will not be so quick to foul if the know there better players will wind up on the bench. The quick start sucks, make it the same as the men's game. There should be a continuation of play rule, if there is obstruction, they should hang the flag until the scoring play ends, or a shot is taken. Stop penalizing the offense for a defensive mistake. If the shooter takes a dangerous shot in that case it should be a 2 minute unreleasable penalty. Only 3 woman between restraining lines on the draw. Let's see how the 90 second clock works next year.

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Great points. Taking the goal back out of the cage after a defensive penalty is the biggest joke. Continuation of a shot in basketball= 3 point play, delayed penalty in hockey, advantage in soccer, throw the flag in football for pass interference, let play play out and have option of accepting the catch or penalty but in girls lacrosse take a goal away and make them re- earn it

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Anonymous #166766 05/25/16 09:26 AM
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Your obsession with women with muscles is creepy. Very creepy. The genie is out of the bottle, women will never again be the little China dolls you are so fond of.


Now that is funny. He is creepy.



you guys are a couple short years from going to your wife and saying 'sorry honey, but I like guys' and in this day and age that will be totally fine. people are ready for this stuff. let it rip.. gonna be fine.

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Anonymous #166778 05/25/16 10:14 AM
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Great points. Taking the goal back out of the cage after a defensive penalty is the biggest joke. Continuation of a shot in basketball= 3 point play, delayed penalty in hockey, advantage in soccer, throw the flag in football for pass interference, let play play out and have option of accepting the catch or penalty but in girls lacrosse take a goal away and make them re- earn it



you guys need to exhale. they will NEVER, EVER do anything to encourage shooting while a player without a helmet is in the way. Liability alone will make this completely impossible.

please grasp this. you might as well hope sasquatch starts showing up at the game. this aint basketball.

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Great points. Taking the goal back out of the cage after a defensive penalty is the biggest joke. Continuation of a shot in basketball= 3 point play, delayed penalty in hockey, advantage in soccer, throw the flag in football for pass interference, let play play out and have option of accepting the catch or penalty but in girls lacrosse take a goal away and make them re- earn it



you guys need to exhale. they will NEVER, EVER do anything to encourage shooting while a player without a helmet is in the way. Liability alone will make this completely impossible.

please grasp this. you might as well hope sasquatch starts showing up at the game. this aint basketball.
You must be kidding right? No matter how many capitals you use, woman are all ready taking these shots with absolutely no penalty to the shooter. If the Reffs are not calling dangerous shots as the defender moves into shooting space, than that shot should count. If the shot is dangerous than, as I said, it should be a 2 minute non releasable. If you want to take it further, if any player takes 2 dangerous shots in any game, it should be an automatic red card with a 1 game suspension. Your right "this aint basketball " because the powers that be that run basketball are smart enough to look at the game and enact rules that move the game along, keep it fan friendly, and keep the players safe, something that lacrosse can't seem to grasp

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^^^ have you ever been to a NCAA women's BB game? Nobody there either except mom and dad

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Your obsession with women with muscles is creepy. Very creepy. The genie is out of the bottle, women will never again be the little China dolls you are so fond of.


Now that is funny. He is creepy.



you guys are a couple short years from going to your wife and saying 'sorry honey, but I like guys' and in this day and age that will be totally fine. people are ready for this stuff. let it rip.. gonna be fine.


Its not a beauty competition moron and thank goodness because then your wife will still be able to play.

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These are excellent points. As stated above here is the conundrum.
If shooting space is called and the player executes the shot then by definition it is a dangerous shot...goal or not.
The problem here is officials NEVER call that scenario a dangerous shot. They simply allow the shooter to take a free position and retake the shot (often times resulting in the same scenario happening again....crazy). In essence the wrong call each and every time.
Now here is the argument that I hear a lot. Because of the speed of the play and the timing of the officials whistle it is usually too late for the shooter to stop herself as the shot motion has already begun when the whistle blows.

My opinion is that the solution is quite simple and two fold.
1-the officials need to call shooting space/obstruction MUCH quicker and 2-the shooter needs to be held responsible for shooting during a shooting space situation.
If the shooter executes a shot AND the official calls shooting space then a yellow should be given and a change of possession should result.

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